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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
v50 uses merge 3, it's very different experience compared to merge 1 :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Just random shots stock auto/gcam hdr+
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
thanks but that didn't work either ...framing hints and tracking focus both enabled ...no horizon level
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Rouvster:
Stock vs LMC R16 v3...

The difference is hallucinating, LMC is way more natural and "true to the source"
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
I had a similar issue, then it started working for no apparent reason. Never worked for me on R15
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Anyone tested pano mode

Bumping this to see if I am the only. One seeing terrible artifacts with panoramas
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Have you set the lenses to hardware level 3?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] doundze:
Thanks Java
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Menergy:
Hi about focus, take a look at the Viesmann logo, also the luminiscent light on the left. It is so much sharper on the stock camera. As much as I dislike Samsung's stock extensive overprocessing some of the photos above - including in GC Vivid mode, example is the tmzbeme (test photos) post from yesterday - the leaves look so animated/unnatural, although only (s)he can say how close to reality this is.

Thanks JavaSabr for all the efforts in developing this for the S23 series. Good to have a working alternative which under certain conditions is definitely better. I'd rather take one photo stock and one GC one after another and then post-process if required than rely on stock camera only.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
It is just a matter of preferences. I don't like anything better on the stock photo from this example, it is just bad on so many levels. And the GCAM for me is good as it is. I prefer that more natural look than overprocesses one from Stock. Look at that logo that you have mentioned - it has literally halos inside from oversharpening. It looks just terrible IMHO. I'm using GCAM since the very first day that I have S23 Ultra, and one the very beginning I was taking all pictures double - with GCAM and with stock/expertRAW. But now, I don't see the point. I have found stock/expertRAW to be better in very perfect light conditions (and only 50Mpix) and that's it. So I'm all the way with GCAM and I love it. Of course, I would like to have e.g. 50 Mpix output natively, but with the level of details from GCAM, I can leave without it. The only thing that I do with stock is a video. This is where GCAM lacks, but the story is the same as with 50Mpix - it is not because of the app itself, but rather because Samsung not exposing some of the APIs to thrid party apps.

But the bottom line is - the more choice we have, the more people are happy with the output. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] C9H13N:
Stock:

Lmc V5:

Lmc V5 LDR:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
no that was the exact same result i got when i tried, i just use stock which works fine
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
awesome thanks, that worked, no idea what the difference between hardware levels so hadn't messed with it ...do you know the difference?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Level3 adds some fluff over full, like focus tracking and such. Thanks @JavaSabr for the link below

https://source.android.com/docs/core/camera/versioning
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
What is the benefit of setting the HW level explicitly? In my (limited) experience setting it to Auto works fine
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
And just like this, the horizon level no longer comes up in v5. Worked fine in v3. Did not work in any version on LMC15. Any idea what may be going on? I am (for the moment) too lazy to run a diff on the XMLs to track down why this is happending. Yes, Framing Hints is always enabled.

At the bottom of the LMC Tweaks menu it says:

To display the horizon level in the viewfinder, Live Photo and Shooting Tips must be enabled

This is clearly incorrect since Live Photo crashes LMC every time I turn it on, and JavaSabr v3 did not have it turned on yet leveling tool worked.

First image below is V5, second V3
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Need to enable focus tracking toggle :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
The problem is that the focus tracking is broken now. It won't focus when you tap so basically you lose any tap to focus ability. Gcam will still focus what it wants, but if you don't agree you're screwed. I think April's update somehow messed with gcam's abilities to leverage Level3 functionalities like focus tracking and horizontal level. Now it's flaky at best
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
From an image quality perspective I don't think there's anything. Hardware full supports all APIs already. But I'm not 100% sure either 🤷
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Thx, that was it. Took me 15 minutes to find that button. One thing I absolutely hate about LMC is that the menus make absolutely no sense. Why are the focus options at the bottom of the processing menu, and why is max zoom buried under focus options. Grrrr....
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
You have that toggle in the top left of your viewfinder by the way!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
It is sharper ? Only thing I can see it's oversharped, when you only look on Smartphone Display looks ok, but on bigger Display or by zoom in it's incredible bad compared to gcam.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Did i say sharper? I said exactly the same , that is so oversharpened that it creates halos. And that I don't like stock at all. Maybe you have quotet the wrong post :)

And im looking at them on Eizo CG2420 :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mara33:
Definitely would be interested to test your config.

I've been testing Java's and Skyking's configs over the past month and both have been a lot of progress via the telegram link with folks sharing test images. I believe it would also benefit your config to be open about the XML.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tcrvhs:
Hi all,

Just registered an account here to say thank you for all of your great work. I have a bit of background in photography and image fidelity and S23's pictures really hurt my eyes. Java's Gcam configs literally saved me from selling this phone.

I have been using R15 v58 for the past few days and switched to R16 v5 today. What I immediately noticed is that the images now have a light greenish tinge to it, especially when capturing skin tones. Can I check if there is any WB setting that I can play around with to adjust this?

Again thank you all for your great work here!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Is it on all sensors?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tcrvhs:
Hi Java, hope you are doing great 😄 First of all thank you, and to answer your question, I have only noticed it on the 3x lense so far. I must admit though I have not done any comprehensive testing so this is just personal observation.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Welcome :)

So if you can provide many samples around this issue I will look into this :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] polle55:
Sorry for the stupid question, but I cant find the 10x option I can see on your screenshots. Any hint how to activate?

Solved! It´s "Additional Cameras" ID4
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
need to use config for ultra, not for small s23
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] polle55:
yes, that was the reason for the missing 10x, thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] przemem9401:
how to distinguish the configuration for ultra from small?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
The one for small is called ..._S23_... and for ultra ..._S23U_...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] maex-la:
Is your config available?

I would love to have it for testing.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
I have posted an update to my config here.

This is for r16 and Ultra only.

new more balanced look.

new zoom configurations with much better detail.

horizon level now works.

added downscale (RES) button to reduce image size by 30% and file size by around 50%, more suitable for quick sharing ...can be toggled on and off.

some other updates and tweaks.

can be used inside any LMC8.4 folder.

Thanks to JavaSabr.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] przemem9401:
what is the difference between sharp and soft setup?

is there no PRO button in V5 on s23U?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
I wanted to try but didn't get around to doing it. Have you tried using hdr++ for those and forcing both shutter speed and ISO manually? This way it should ensure same exposure for all pics and avoid this issue. Because right now the camera uses a new exposure on each picture instead of locking it for the whole panorama
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
No difference. You can actually see the exposure switching as you sweep the phone. Best to do it starting at a bright portion of the sky to exacerbate the effect
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
That's odd that the exposure would change if you force both ISO and shutter. You sure you were in hdr++? As forcing these on hdr+ doesn't work
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Was definitely on hdr++. Started scanning with the sun just outside the FOV towards 180 degrees opposite of the sun. You could see the "blinking" as the camera adjusted exposure.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Deepgreen23:
A related question - when I view the RAW DNG files on the phone they are fuzzy and ill-defined. Is this a function of the file sizes (around 70mb) or is there another reason that they are so poor-looking on the phone? I shoot in RAW on my Canon R5 and obviously this issue is not present. Sorry if this is a basic question but phone photography is still a new arena for me after camera work. A problem I also have is that my Mac Book Pro doesn't recognise DNG files so there will have to be a conversion process to be gone through before I can use the RAW files usefully. Editing on the phone doesn't improve the look of the RAW shots either.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
You should ask this in different thread because this not concerns gcam anymore.

This is maybe good thread to discuss about this RAW problem (y)

https://xdaforums.com/t/major-update-released-for-galaxy-s23-series-improves-camera.4570457/
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Deepgreen23:
You're right of course - apologies.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
No need to apologize :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Hi, for me it's too much Vivid Saturation now. It's like Stock but better Quality ;-)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Burnout62:
Could you please remind, for s23, what's pro mode doing?

LDR is explained in your post, clear thx - for bad weather/grey sky scene,to enhance contrast.

And also why HDR frames count disapeared: no more needed?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
have you tried it yourself?

post samples (full size no crop) of what you mean along with stock

i will post version 5 test soon, less vivid, after i test it for night shots later
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
LDR changes only photo processing style, PRO button changes algorithm of stacking frames, default is more useful for all cases, but you can test it by yourself
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Marginal difference to stock from saturation, sky is more natural, but better all over.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Timtaylor22:
I once tested version 4, quite good, only the green is unnaturally strong, thanks for providing the XML.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
In Settings, Photo processing, main Lens, Saturation - there are 3 Saturations, don't know what's the difference ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] polle55:
Thanks for your work, guys! Like the natural tone of your Gcam. There is only one thing I don't understand: Using the RAWs in Lightroom there is always the slider of the green vs. violet at maxmimun of violet (between 140-150). So there is nearly no chance to get more violet if needed. photos have a green touch?)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It depends on used HDR model in Gcam, my config uses p5, which is better for result jpg, but if you want to work with raw, better to use p6pro
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
this has nothing to do with gcam ....this is a lightroom question
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
No, it is not. RAWs from GCAM have this weird thing, the color tint is off, and it cannot be actually corrected without touching profiling sliders in LR classic or color curves in the LR because there are not enough values to balance it only with the tint slider. But I have tried the capture one and it is the same story, so the soft for developing RAW does not matter. And that problem is only for the main lens, not for any other.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
well then that is why i don't use raw and have it disabled on my config by default ...it is no improvement over the jpegs and the file size is much bigger
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Sometimes I like to have more control and play with the files a bit. :) Years of working and millions of pictures taken just took my soul aways and it is not that easy to give it up. :P
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Like Java said, you need to change the hdr model to p6p. See my LR with p6p:

Only "issue" is that changing the hdr model will affect jpg output since it has been tweaked using another model... But for raw it obviously doesn't matter. What you could do is change all lenses to p6p and save it in another XML that you load when you want to take raws. Or live with a slightly less properly tuned jpg output
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
I have seen the pixel 6 pro model produce extremely ugly artifacts in areas of fine structure. May have been because other Para eyers of my config were not tweaked accordingly.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] xwonic:
I talked with an XDA admin and at the moment it's not possible to add a image comparison slider to XDA forums.

But from what i found out there is a place where you can almost easily do comparisons with your pictures.

And it's very neat.

Here's an example, you just have to copy paste the link, i took this from @tmzbeme (y)

https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxtapose/latest/embed/index.html?uid=1560d4f8-dffc-11ed-b5bd-6595d9b17862

The website is called https://juxtapose.knightlab.com/

Here's a few things to know:

Don't know how long do these links last,

Only links or Dropbox pictures work, no direct uploads,

GIF has picture upload but the GIF takes too long to generate, it's small and i'ts not interactable,

Embed code doesn't work cause it's not BBcode(XDA forum language),

Work's better if both pictures have been taken is the same position. (example, using a tripod or a very steady hand)

When viewing the final picture, if it doesn't fit the screen, remember to scroll down.

Slider also works on smartphone, but since there no pinch to zoom you are restricted to a smaller image due to the size, unless your Browser app has some kind of zoom capability that doesn't interfere with the slider.

If link is used it must be something like this:

https:// xdaforums.com/attachments/20230420_214648-jpg.5893605/

and not like this (don't copy picture link, only copy link)

https:// xdaforums.com/data/attachments/4380/4380107-e6fa6b43fda6ab978e83991f64d3d388.jpg

also when you are attaching image files to XDA you can get the links to those pictures by right clicking on them during editing of your reply

Another tip is, if don't have dropbox, attach all your pictures to XDA in "Attack files"(instead of "insert image") and then use those links to generate comparisons links so pictures don't take too much space in reply.

It's still a bit troublesome but I'm just trying to save space on replies and also have a easier understanding of the diference in pictures :cool: I hope i have been helpful.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
It's a bit pointless because with that slider you cannot see the full resolution which is half the advantage of gcam aside from the light and color ....plus 2 seperate images are not going to be perfectly aligned
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] polle55:
Thanks! I will try it!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Burnout62:
Where can I find out the value when in settings it's set to "default (from library)".

Because in the .xml these values are at 0...

I don't have any lib file in my LMC folder.

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
in this case, the default is a value from stock Google lib. so you cannot find these values :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] christianXO:
When a new version is released is it the APK or XML or both that's updated?

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I upload only zip archive with xmls
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Menergy:
What is the difference between HDRNET+, Leica & Pro mode if they are activated in Settings? I've noticed these could be chosen all at once but can't seem to find specific change looking at the object to shoot at in the background.

Also, does anyone use the focus or exposure sliders? I can notice these in the viewfinder when activated in Settings but I can't seem to see a slider, it's just a button that can be pressed.

Finally, anyone who has tested most of the camera settings, what items do you always keep at sight in the viewfinder and are actually helpful for the vast majority of pictures when shooting?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] iamnotkurtcobain:
RAW files taken with GCam look horribly pixelated... Wow
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] RedSkyRoad:
How does this LMC relate to the official Google camera app?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
But are you talking about gallery preview or opening them in an app like Lightroom? If gallery then yes, true, and it is because the gallery is not able to read that file, and shows only an embedded preview, which has low resolution.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Releasing my long delayed AGC config. This aims to have a natural color reproduction with higher level of detail than Javasabr's excellent work on LMC, particularly in the shadow areas. Includes a semi-convenient hack for photosphere mode.

In order to keep this post compact I will remove previous versions of the config. However each zip file will contain an archive folder with all previous versions

Feedback, good or bad, is highly appreciated.

To install

1) Download and install AGC8.4 v9. 5fix scan3d or aweme. The config will not work with any other version of AGC

BigKaka: AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix

Download AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix by BigKaka.

www.celsoazevedo.com

2) Download zip attached to this mesage, extract and place folder AGC.8.4 inside Downloads folder

3) Launch AGC, select "Load Config" from the gear menu and select a config name that does NOT end in _3D. It is not necessary to go into selfie mode for the first load

4) To enable photosphere mode a) switch to selfie camera b) load _3D version of config c) switch directly to photosphere mode d) when done taking images load the regular config while still on photosphere mode. Any deviation from this procedure will likely crash gcam. If you experience a crash start gcam in selfie mode and load the non 3D version of the config

V6 Changelog

1) Updated logic for cameras to improve rendition of fine detail

2) Adjusted light, shadow and white level of images to add some pop

3) Reduced sharpening level slightly

4) Created a separate photosphere config

V7 Changelog

1) Lowered shadow compensation, h/t @tmzbeme for the callout

V8 Changelog

1) Increased shadow compensation to an intermediate value between v6 and v7 to correct dark images

Known issues

1) Panorama mode does work well (gcam issue)

2) Images with the 3x and 10x lens can come out very dark if there is low contrast in the frame, turn on HDR++ mode if you experience this issue
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
the agc default light and color without doing anything is more accurate, this has too much brightness and contrast (and what looks like sharpening grain).

light and color needs minimal adjustment out of the box
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] iamnotkurtcobain:
Sometimes the screen is "flashing" when taking pics with your config. Can you disable that effect?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Burnout62:
Nice job, thx. Is it for S23U only?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
AGC 9.5 , you linked 8.4 and I find nowhere ?? Ok Fix V9.5 -my fault
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Thank you for the feedback. I do crank up the shadow compensation significantly and add some white level. That was intentional - about the only nit I have with Javasabr's release is lack of shadow detail. I like a higher key look especially where pics of people are involved, but may be resulting in night images that are on the bright side. I may tune that down some in future releases.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GeeTeeH:
So, hypothetically speaking, could a user just switch Gcam to the photosphere configuration and LEAVE it in photosphere if that's all you want it for?

Stock cam works OK for my "dumb social media level" needs, but Photospheres are how I standout with my unsophisticated audience.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] yazilimcionline:
@JavaSabr

If the quick meassure program is installed, Gcam will not be installed. If Gcam is installed, quick meassure will not be installed :D
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
You can but you have to open gcam in selfie mode every time
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Uploaded v7 that tones down the shadow compensation, h/t to @tmzbeme for the call out. He has proven to have a shap eye for details like few others.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
i believe i have fixed the green tinge issue 🤔
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
you can use another package, aweme for example
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
pigeons standing on one leg 😁
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
And the real colour of the fence is like lmc ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Timtaylor22:
How can you reduce the sharpness for individual lenses a little?

Thanks very much
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Under quick settings for the lens

sharpness -> reduce sharp mini, sharp macro, and sharp edge
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
um...probably not lol, you're right, the blue is a little off ...i have made some corrections, to me it now looks right, i can't test that fence again until i go back there

..(it looks exactly like lmc here)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Do you know which is the setting to slightly increase the default shutter time for HDR+?

In auto mode, in low light, the noise is too much. And i found out that increasing exposure solve this problem
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
processing functions-exposure and shutter-exposure threshold in auto mode ( i think)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
That's actually to set the upper limit (faster shutter time)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's limitation from Samsung on s23 series :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] typos1:
Never said it was, but it does get you more detail than stock 200mp as I said and it's the nearest thing we have so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Nope. When there is no information there will not be more by adding something to by ai.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Seems that setting "shutter priority" do the job. I set to 1/7s and it will slightly increase shutter time in any condition (not to 1/7s, but longer than automatic mode).

Try that, I also see a lot of noise in your last pictures
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
I already have my shutter speed set to 1/3s in those photos,which is longer than 1/7s.

If you are referring to noise in the very last photo, well it it taken in almost complete darkness, so yeah, there is going to be some noise because of the high iso required if you want it to be in focus.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Look at the noise, and look at the EXIF data

Shutter speed 1/60s, in that light condition is extremely fast.

Pay attention to which setting you set, is probably working just for HDR and not HDR+ (or vice versa)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
Where exactly do you see noise in that photo?

Anyway I will try your suggestion tomorrow, thanks.