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[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
There is at least one modded launcher offering that. I did not try it yet as I have no use for the standard music player. And displaying the time is for me a waste of screen space if it is already in the notification bar and between my dashboard clocks anyway.

Spoiler content hidden.

No password known. It is dynamically generated for each new build on these new 7870 devices. And cracking a 28 digit or more password takes ages.
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
I've seen that kind of launcher from TS10. It looks similar too.

By the way, the layout of IYING launcher is also fixed, isn't it?
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Has anyone tested if the internal microphone is always on yet on the YL880 devices? That would be a deal breaker for me.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
Thanks. I'll stick with the Iying images. This one has `sys.fyt.bluetooth_type=1` while the previous 2024-01-08 has type=0. I flashed it as-is anyway, and bluetooth is still working, so it doesn't seem to have mattered?
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
This should work fine, except that depending on whether it's 0 or 1, the phone will recognize it as the different type of bluetooth device. The default should be 1 though.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Not necessarily. Changing to 1 can disable one of the bt modules, disabling BLE.

In my case, when set to 1, connection to valentine one gen 2 is no longer possible.

Not recommended - refer shipping configuration value.
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
I see. What I meant by 'default' refers to the default values included in the config.txt of the firmware file.

edit) I just saw the config file again, and # was added in front of that line. Thanks to @marchnz for the correct information.

For the bt modules, I haven't found the setting that enables the using of bt module for BLE. Does anyone know how to access that?
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Mine worked without any config, other than correct line.

Type 116 (mekede, navifly and other made up seller names.)
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
New version of Mekede M7 firmware.

WeTransfer - Send Large Files & Share Photos Online - Up to 2GB Free

WeTransfer is the simplest way to send your files around the world

wetransfer.com

System date is 2024-01-18, app date is 2024-01-23.

These lines were added in the config.txt of this firmware.
[FYT Android Head Units] halloj:
I would appreciate if someone could answer j0hn83 question. At the same time please tell about the phone quality during calls. Improvement or still some problems with quality? Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] anginx:
I didn’t test the quality of the internal microphone, I just installed the external external one that came with the unit and disabled the internal in the settings.

I did some recording tests and received one phone call while driving at low speed in the town, I asked the person who called me afterwords if she could hear me good, she said yes, no further comments.

I didn’t test extensively but seems good to me.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Can you flick the screen in front of the internal mic with your finger during a recording and see if it is picking up audio when disabled? It is very very noticeable if it is on (when you flick it even gently).

I usually use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lauresprojects.com.mictest

The switch did nothing on the 7862 equivalent and the internal mic was always on.
[FYT Android Head Units] anginx:
I recorded the internal mic while the car is parked and yes, you can hear every tapping on the screen, noise background is pretty bad and volume is very low.

External mic in the other hand sounds very good in comparison.
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
is that true for AllAppUpdate A13.bin as well? I'd really like to de-cruft that
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Yes. I don't think the 6318_zip even has a password. Not on the mekede file I just downloaded.

It's just signed with a key we don't have, unlike the 6315.zip

The AllAppUpdateA13.bin password does indeed change on each build, and according to @gordgelin even if you get the password and make changes it makes the AllAppUpdate.bin invalid.
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
yes, you can't just replace, add or delete some apks. it will make file invalid. even if you have password
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I would like to add a "like" below your post.

But actually I don't like it at all what FYT is doing :)
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
this is a major blow, not being able to customize these units like we can with the 7862 is a pretty good reason to avoid them altogether. I don't want all their ****ty apps/services running in the background doing who knows what
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
So even with the password you can't create a valid signature? That sounds like some other password is still being used.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I fully agree with you. However, if you buy a Samsung or Google Pixel or something else you can't do that either. Of course there is a big quality difference between the software, incl. bloatware (Samsung).

But speaking about that ****ty apps/services etcetera: What apps do you remove? calculator, screenbutton, no. of launchers?

And do you remove services? So do you also create your own kernels? (I used to remove services on the Sofia-3GR and PX5, but stopped doing that on the sc9853i.)

But if you do that, I am interested w.r.t. new kernels.
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
I use a Google Pixel specifically because I can unlock the bootloder and run my own Android builds ;-)

As for what I typically remove: the voice assistant crap (toppal), touch assist, extra apps like calc, screenbutton, all the launchers. I also preload my own launcher, icons, backgrounds, etc. Lots of customization via the lsec script.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
I used this app; flicking the screen was barely audible. Flicking the dash where my external mic is mounted was loud and clear. So yeah, I think disabling the internal mic works fine.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
Since my Musicolet app doesn't work without documentsui, does anyone know of another music player that has Album Shuffle, that'll work on these?
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
Is there anyone currently using 7870 with front camera connected currently? I want to know if there's a setting option for front camera in the current firmware.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
I'm using a ADAS DVR up front. It connects via USB. Haven't looked for any settings, what in particular?
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
On 7862, there seems to be a front view enable option in factory setting, but I couldn't find that option on 7870. I know for sure that the "Recorder" app shows the front view though.

I'm trying to use the 720p front camera from Aliexpress and the problem is that when I connect the front camera through F.CVBS IN input, the rear view shows nothing but black. The funny thing is that when I launch the recorder app, the rear view is shown normally and the when I remove the front camera's connection to 7870, the rear view is again shown normally.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
Ah, no idea about that, the only analog video input I'm using is the rearview camera.
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Password can now be extracted :

Mekede 2000x1200 от 03.01.2024 - U12 35ab9e0df52141b73f5f334f1cd2d5a4

Mekede 2000x1200 от 19.01.2024 Toppal voice 4d6f574171b929b50e3a737c73dd0283

Mekede 2000x1200 от 24.01.2024 ea4bf5ec1ccf9f57584f66cbf675981f

IYING_ui_2000x1200_-he_2024-01-08_0235 fcb8d009337add2a994e684cdb2bb8af

2000x1200_foreign_20240111_LiJun b8eb271f597885f48b8d237259aa72d0

Credits where due :

O.T @4pda

Script to extract passwords : https://github.com/OT-dm/7870pwd_extract/tree/master , may or maynot work.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I compiled it on my Debian Linux x86_64, which worked fine.

To compile it on my Debian Linux ARM64 RaspberryPi 4 ,I had to add a minor patch.

They both work fine when using it on the bin file. I can find the password and decompile the AllAppUpdateA13.bin.

Which means that it should be able to rezip it as well using the same password. That would mean that modding the AllAppUpdateA13.bin will become possible? (for now with question mark)
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
as i already said - password is not enough to "rezip" this with different contents. retrieving password never was the problem. there are other levels of firmware files protection also. you can check it yourself - add/replace any apk to archive and try to flash it. it will be invalidated
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
The cryptofile you mean?
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Yes, this is going to be a bummer ( issue ) , can you point me to any documentation on this file. Also from (your ) experience @surfer63 would signing the files with the certificates present in the firmware files for 7862 help ? Can we consider this route ? Would something like this help with the extraction of the contents from the device https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-twrp...system-partitions-to-read-write-mode.4521131/ ( This supports EROS FS )
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
no, fyt android 10 keys/certs are useless

android 13 system apps and android build itself are signed with custom keys this time so platform and test keys from android 10 will not help
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
if you want to play with system files you can unpack payload.bin from any 7870 firmware update, but you will not be able to pack it back and sign
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
Most things are working now. But 50% of the time when I turn on my car, the music apps don't see my Music folder. File browser still sees it tho. Is this just an Android 13 bug?

Still annoying - backlight still too bright at night. I set backlight current to minimum in factory settings, didn't rea;ly change much. Also, there's a Night Mode toggle in the notification panel, but seems to be no way to enable this automatically.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Where is your Music folder? On a USB-stick, or om internal memory?

If on USB-stick, you are encountering a minimally 20 year old phenomenon, not issue. Every operating system that goes in deep-sleep or hibernation, unmounts it USB-devices, so also USB-sticks. And when waking up, it has to mount them again, but that is after "everything" has started. Also after the music player(s) have started.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
No, I had to copy it all to internal storage. The USB stick only had a success rate of like 10%. I kinda miss my old head unit with its microSD slot now.
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
@gordgelin Thank you for posting the Dudu OS firmware on 4pda.

Quick Q : If the AllAppUpdate binary can be extracted after knowing the password through the script. Cant we then install those extracted contents through lsupdate via a script @surfer63 Thoughts ?
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
if you can create, encode and sign correct script for 7870 then probably yes
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Apologies, did not get the encode part, are u referring to apktool ?
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
i'm referring to that new platform uses encoded and signed sh scripts and you can not just create some plain text 7870lsec.sh as you used to do with 7862lsec.sh on old platform
[FYT Android Head Units] lowridincrew,:
Does anybody know of any 2 din kits for the 10" version? I can't find any information it. It says universal but I can even put the metal brackets on it. This is how my dash looks. It's a standard 2-din opening with side brackets.
[FYT Android Head Units] SilverShai:
Hi,

i'll ask on about LTE Band and Cat. Anyone know what band does support M7 Plus? I know only older model on platfon TS10 doesn't support B20 and Cat 4 LTE.
[FYT Android Head Units] ABLM:
off topic, but I'm also interested in a double din frame kit. I think double din is limited to 7" and not (yet?) available for 7870. Screens 9.5"/10"/.. are too big to fit into the 2 din slot, so it must be outside. I don't know if such kit exists.
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
7870 has variants with 9/10"1280*720 screens and also recently appeared 7862 devices with new 7" 1280*720 screens. so probably you can try to find such screen and replace
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
This is the list of supported bands of L880 devices, which will be same for M7 Plus that uses the motherboard.

GSM - GSM850, EGSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900

WCDMA - BAND1, BAND2, BAND5, BAND8

TDD-LTE - BAND34, BAND38, BAND39, BAND40, BAND41N

FDD-LTE - BAND1, BAND2, BAND3, BAND5, BAND7, BAND8, BAND20, BAND28A, BAND28B
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Have you tried installing the leaked DuduOS build for the 7870 device ? It does require activation maybe we get lucky with the activation. I know its server side activation with magic number generated via device UUID. Maybe a logcat can shed more light on the process of activation ?
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
You won't be able to bypass the activation.

It's also against XDA rules to discuss such things.
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Oh I didnt mean it that way ! I was referring to if that is a test version then we can ask for the device to be activated, maybe from the development side of things. And maybe help with the translation per the telegram channel. I wasnt asking for an illegal method to break the activation encryption :) I hope that will clear things.
[FYT Android Head Units] lowridincrew,:
Find the Telegram and ask them to be a tester. I am currently testing Dudu and taking notes as long as I can keep my car out the shop lol
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
I was referring test version for 7870 devices.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
you can still ask to be a tester if you have a 7870 device. Though maybe only through recommendations from other active testers now.
[FYT Android Head Units] SilverShai:
Thank You, it suppose like min Cat. 6 (i don't think so more) but however much better like on TS10.

One think sounds interesting to me. On few pics and offers describe like support 5.1 surround audio. Generaly in cars usually we have 4.0 but for example in Renault Laguna 3, Megane IV is possible add center speaker. So how could i connect them into this radio? Is is enough directly connect into RCA (small wide frequency speaker let say about 10W 4 Ohms)? Or do i need any amplifier?

In actually car i don't have already center speaker but i found good place to prepare of them (i have Megane 3 so i think just print new cover for new bigger display on top).
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
In an area with solid 4 bars signal my speed test result:
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
It depends on your specific mobile network carrier, what bands they use, how much spectrum they have on those bands and what bands the head unit supports.

You might have a full signal to the mast but the head unit might only support a single band on that mast and your carrier might only have 5MHz on that band.

It's worth comparing the bands supported by the head unit to how much spectrum each network carrier in your country has on those bands.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
This seems to be the OEM, if anyone's interested in bulk ordering. Might be a way to ensure access to latest firmware... https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...html?spm=a2700.shop_index.82.9.9c775a6ceb4Byy
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
New devices coming with Mekede and Dudu OS. I hope the lads who bought the Mekede 7870 devices should be able to upgrade to Dudu OS.

Some details here :

https://www.mekede.cn/index.php?m=home&c=Lists&a=index&tid=108

Mekede Website with Dudu OS integration and a video link from Mekede CEO

Does anyone have a Mekede.cn account who can login and check the prices ?
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Dudu 7 12+256GB on the way 😏
[FYT Android Head Units] halloj:
Price for this setup?
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
$398 delivered to the uk
[FYT Android Head Units] halloj:
Nice, from where did you buy it? Link, please.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
It's currently not for sale on their website. It will be on Aliexpress in a few weeks.

I had to message Mekede on WhatsApp, get a quote, then they send a PayPal invoice.
[FYT Android Head Units] halloj:
Ok, thanks. I'll wait for Aliexpress to offer it.
[FYT Android Head Units] s14kouki:
I've been conversing with Mekede on Aliexpress via the NAVIFANS Official Store and they are selling DUDU 7 head units for an extra $30 USD for the specific model I want - 6GB+128GB 13 inch 7870 model.

Ends up being $630AUD for me.

I'll let you guys know how the order goes!
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
This what I have been offered. Removed contact details for obvious reasons. Currency is in USD. I guess the Fedex delivery kills the deal. Was initially offered the device for RMB 2800 but the postage is around 400 RMB for OZ.
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
UPDATE : Just Ordered
[FYT Android Head Units] Nachorl250:
Mekede sent me this about their new Dudu7 units with the 7870SC (via Whatsapp).

Price for the 9 inch headunit+frame+cable+canbus:

6+128G=325USD | 8+256G=338USD | 12+256G=381USD

Shipping is a bit expensive (15USD inside China, 60USD to the US).

I might buy one later this week (the 8GB RAM one, 12GB isn't worth the difference in price IMO). If I do, I'll post updates here.

Something weird is that the storage options in the spec sheet are 64/128/256, but I was offered 128/256/256. I wonder if it's a mistake or they're planning on selling a lower end model with the same board but only 64GB.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Largely marketing cool-aid. The only 'high end' or high performance products are the words on the advertisement.

It's the chinese origin reseller model - point updates of low spec/cheap components and update when supply lines require it. The whole platform are modular, when one component or module becomes unavailable - change it.

Someone probably forgot to change the storage options in the sheet.
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
New version of Mekede M7 Plus firmware came out.

System 2024-02-19, App 2024-02-26

It looks like the TVI/AHD selection is now shown which is similar to 7862.

Here's the download link from Mekede official website.

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[FYT Android Head Units] amirraizat:
any idea if mekede will release different theme for M7 plus?
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
I don't know, since it's up to Mekede. More themes would be good though.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
Does anyone know how I can get rid of this tool?
[FYT Android Head Units] LZPRIV:
Check in you app drawer, amongst them, you should find one called "Touch-Assistant", then untick all and that useless button will vanish.

Out of curiosity, what launcher are you using ? I can't get Nova Launcher to persist since the latest M7 2024-02-26 version. It keeps reverting to the original CarLauncher. Thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Hey Mate. Did you recieve your headunit ? Mine comes today via DHL .. Sydney.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I use the FCC car launcher and have no problems.

Firmware M7 from 2024-02-26
[FYT Android Head Units] LZPRIV:
thanks, how did you force the fcc car launcher in the system ?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I just set the FCC as StartApp in Settings-Apps-DefaultApps.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
It arrived a day early 😀
[FYT Android Head Units] LZPRIV:
Thanks @Bettman66 This is exactly what I've kept doing indeed so it will launch the launcher I select but only once. As soon as I tap the round icon for home, it goes back to the original car launcher. And it won't remember that i have selected a different launcher. Original launcher seems hard coded in the "factory settings" as it does not offer the other launchers i tried and installed.

I will try re-installing everything from zero again then.

Do you confirm that you just simply installed FCC then defaulted it in the default apps/Home app setting ?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
yes
[FYT Android Head Units] LZPRIV:
Thanks, after a complete wipe erase, reflash and priority to installing only the launcher first, I was able to set my launcher as default. That new M7 is definitely faster than M6 Pro Plus so very worth the investment :-)
[FYT Android Head Units] lowridincrew,:
Had to fab it to fit in a universal double din but turned out pretty damn good. I can't remove the climate button on the bottom left but I haven't done a firmware update yet
[FYT Android Head Units] lowridincrew,:
Whats the most up to date Iying firmware by the way. And IYING is a POS company. I asked for the firmware update and they blocked me
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Did you buy direct from Iying? Or from the seller Leorandzz?

And which 1 blocked you?
[FYT Android Head Units] lowridincrew,:
Purchased from Leorandzz and asked Iying if they had a link to their firmware. I guess they take it as a insult just for asking? They asked for a picture of the unit in my car. Then they said "If the customer who purchased our machine wants to update, we will send the updated firmware." and I replied "yes can you send me the update link?" and then they blocked me
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
In fairness to them you aren't their customer.

Support costs money.

They could have just said we can't support you as you aren't our customer rather than blocking you.

Mekede do the same thing. They ask for order numbers etc, especially if you message from an account that didn't purchase from them.

You should contact your reseller (Leorandzz) directly.
[FYT Android Head Units] lowridincrew,:
Thankfully Leorandzz sent the firmware pretty quickly. I had thought they made their firmware public and was looking for a website or link with it. It was trash for them to block me like that
[FYT Android Head Units] Clandaries:
Does someone know the seller Caska? Head unit named G30.

They dont sell on Aliexpress but you find them on global sources.

The UI looks 100% the same as Mekede so i ask myself if they maybe have same MCU so maybe the Mekede Firmware will work?

It is not possible to get firmware updates from them, why ever...

Thank you.
[FYT Android Head Units] kemdau:
If the MCU is the same, yes you can use Mekede firmware. However, they add Toppal voice in their firmware and I can't remove it
[FYT Android Head Units] honda2015:
Lucky you, you got it even with a proper box around. My Mekede m6pro just reached me in plastic tape wildly wrapped around it.

Do you happen to know if the DuDuOs could be bought/obtained as a firmware update?
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
you can remove it from AllAppUpdateA13.bin with 7zip f.e. It won't affect installation
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
no it can not
[FYT Android Head Units] boss126:
I have recently purchased the 10 inch 1280x720 version and while thats fine i was wondering if i could transplant the 11.5 inch 2000x1200 screen from my old ts10 ?

All the connections are the same but i dont want to hurt anything.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Probably yes, but you will likely need the lcdconfig file for your ts10 screen to flash.

We need to tell the unit exactly what screen we are using else it's just black or flashing.

It should hopefully be written on a sticker on the back of the screen. Post it here and someone will see if they have the config file you need.
[FYT Android Head Units] boss126:
Many thanks
[FYT Android Head Units] s14kouki:
Hey bud, not yet. They advised me that they are waiting on some missing materials and mine will be shipped this Friday via DHL.

How is your's going so far?
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Nice. I have not setup mine yet. Waiting on the frame for my RAV4.
[FYT Android Head Units] kemdau:
Thanks a lot, I did it and everything is ok now.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I did it that way too and it works.
[FYT Android Head Units] LZPRIV:
the file seems to be password protected ?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I was able to use Nanazip to remove the folders and APK.

Just opening the APK is not possible because it is encrypted.