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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Thanks!

I slightly suspected this due to the great speed and no shutter lag :-)

DAMN.

Why is it to hard to have *one* camera App. Well, looking forward to Samsungs "great update".

They pretty much only need some off switches for "mess up the image" and "mess up the image even worse" :-)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I use only GCam for photo, stock only for video, 50Mp from ER or stock is terrible and not usable at all
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Well i can understand, but have to strongy concur that 50 MPix are not usable.

It really rocks with good light.

But subjects are subjective :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I have done a lot of tests, 50Mp from stock is extremely oversharped and blurred at the same moment 😂 and even in good conditions stock, pro or ER works very unstable, overprocessed and super syntactic.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Me too :)

But 50MP Stock is horrible, yeah!

Did you check with Camera Assistant to set to smooth "High"?

If you have halfway decent light (i just tried again with sun dawning, 1/50s / ISO 250) and you compare to Stock / Smooth High or Pro (raw!) then the added Details blow 12MP out of the water.

BUT STock is still oversharpened & overstaurated and over contrast, yes!

Raw from Pro is very good in that respect BUT due to lack of HDR it got trouble with dynamic range.

Hard choices :-)

But to simply dismiss 50M;Pix is flawed in my view.

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I couldn't achive the level is details from stock pro 50Mp RAW details more than stacking RAW 12Mp from GCam, it's funny, you can try it yourself but not with text or buildings, need to test with people/trees/plants/animals

I don't say anything about HDR, it's not presented for stock raw at all 😁
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
WIll play with stacking if you refer to Enhanced HDR+!

BTW although Expert Raw also delivers horrible JPG, did you look at its raw (can they do HDR with Raw) and did you try their stacking they added?

As that is also doing 50Mpix maybe THEY could combine dynamic range with superior Detail.

Got to try tomorrow as here low light changed to no light outside :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I tested only RAWs from ER, didn't touch jpg at all :D
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
And rightly so.

So: did you play with stacking in ER? Can ER do HDR in Raw?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Given how much of the launch presentation was devoted to the camera, Samsung's choices with respect to camera software are baffling. You have very useful controls in Pro mode that can make it look great in good light - saturation, shadows, highlights, exposure comp etc. But then they take away HDR. In stock mode you get HDR but circuis-level color saturation, they take away the controls over color rendition. And Expert Raw is particularly baffling - rather than combining all features of stock and Pro and throwing in extra controls (AE/AF lock, etc) they give you even worse color rendition than stock, take away the controls of pro. I truly don't get it., and I have little hope that the upcoming cam update will resolve any of that. How did they allow themselves to release a flagship phone with a flagship camera crippled to such a level? Because the camera is the only feature that trully differentiates S23U from S22U. And as GCAM shows out of the box, it is possible to get far better results with zero effort than what Samsung's team of camera engineers produced.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Haha exactly.

I sold my P40 Pro Plus for this baby and i can hardly say how much underwhelmed i was.

BUT i saw the camera App evolve on that one so i have high hopes.

As said before they just have to add the switch "Ruin all" and give us some controls and BOOM here we are :-)

While i still believe that the P40 Pro Plus was superior in low light (just sensor-wise, no SW gimmick) i still believe the S23U can come close with decent SW.

Look how the mediocre HW of the Pixel 7 Pro can make it shine by decent processing.

So lets cross our fingers :-)

Ender

P.S. and to be honest the work for keeping Google Service working on the P40 Pro Plus was constantly rising... So it had to go anyways and the S23U was the first close to its photo Quality so here i am...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
You can try or test this. More details and sharpness, good bightness and not dark. Tested indoor.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
A few more photos show a comparison between LMC 47(sharp), AGC 2.1, and stock 12mp this time around shot in low light/artificial light.

If for the daylight I prefer LMC as I find AGC a bit overexposed, this time around I prefer AGC as I find LMC lacking detail, especially in the darker areas of the picture. Ex the purple flowers, the dark blue towels, and the tree branches.

Edit. Photos were done in HDR Enhanced.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I don't expect much from this famous software update for camera.

Samsung has the same ****ty camera software since s6 (at that time results were good).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Were these done using hdr enhanced? Or night mode?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
every stock camera on the market is like this no exceptions, shame we can't take full use of better sensors and processing power
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
HDR enhanced.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
I would argue that is not the case for the stock camera on Pixel 7 Pro which was my previous phone and is now used by my wife.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Could you provide crops of such places, please? because I see that LMC is detailed and cleaned for evening/night shots than AGC
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Could you compare LMC s23u and stock gcam from pixel 7, please? :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
Absolutely, I will do it tomorrow.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Interesting. For me LMC 47 is a bit too dark in daylight, so I prefer the LMC 42 from tmzbeme, little bit more lightness. AGC is perfect from Color, lightness, and working focus following.

HDR+
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Just to enable the toggle if you like overexposed photo
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Attached crops of LMC AGC Stock 50 200 mp and ExpRaw 12 50 mp.

Samsung is unbelievable bad.

But we have gcam
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
These I done quickly on the phone by cropping in Google Photos.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
I ll try tomorrow. But in the garden today it was like on the first 2 pics, 3. one is a little bit too dark.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
I think details are a tad higher with lmc on these crops but the slight underexposure compared to agc might trick to think otherwise. Honestly though, I think both have matured to the point where most shots on social media or fit to screen on big monitors will probably look pretty much the same
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Ten306:
Which of these GCAMs have a well-functioning photosphere?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
You are right. When I view my crops in Google Photos I get the Brighten with HDR being suggested and after doing that I am very happy with the picture.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Went out for a walk with the kids at dusk. It was a bit foggy so decided to test agc and lmc. Not that these are great shots but it was interesting to see that agc managed to keep the mood while lmc basically removed the fog (haven't check, guessing lmc has more aggressive dehaze). Both shot with 3x (I should have checked if behavior was the same on other lenses...)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GodisGamer10:
Hi all,

It's a noob question with all experts here but I need help from you.

I have been following this thread and tested the Gcams LMC and AGC mentioned here. They both are great. But to test these gcams, I only get option to install LMC or AGC. I have to uninstall one app to install other on my S23ultra. If I try to install let's say AGC over LMC it asks me for update and vice versa.

So can someone assist to newbie like me to understand how I can install multiple GCAM apps at the same time.

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
You have to install both apps using a different package name. I use the scan3d one for AGC and I downloaded the ruler one for lmc that way they don't conflict.

Agc

BigKaka: AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix

Download AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix by BigKaka.

www.celsoazevedo.com

Lmc

Hasli: LMC8.4_R15

Download LMC8.4_R15 by Hasli.

www.celsoazevedo.com
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I looked at these samples from a laptop and LMC is better for me with details...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
it's a very interesting case... thanks :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
LMC has , not well, but it has.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Take different versions, ruler and scan3d
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GodisGamer10:
Thank you @PhilMorin this helps :) I am able to install both versions successfully.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GodisGamer10:
Thank you @woffu22 this helps :) I am able to install both versions successfully.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GodisGamer10:
I would like to give big thanks to @JavaSabr @Surfeur-des-Reves @GroovyGeek and everyone who is engaged in this GCAM thread for Samsung S23 Ultra. You guys are doing wonderful job to help everyone. Following this thread from the beginning and enjoying the testing, comments, modifications, updates to the core.

Thank you all and Cheers !!!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Hayabusa TX:
guys, what is the best version for s23 ultra? and is action pan and astro photo avialable?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
@antykat for fun I was trying your latest lib with SGCAM but getting weird colors smudges. Look at the yellow structure near the roof. Any idea what's going on? I didn't change anything in lib patcher. In the Advanced Settings of gcam I set sabre to on with sabre merge algorithm and in the hdr models I tried with pixel 5, p6pro and p7pro merge. All having the same issue. Doesn't seem to occur on the 3x and 10x lenses.

Sgcam

AGC
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] acbdo6:
What is the best gcam and xml. file in your opinion? Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
is the last one 10x? the entire thing looks somewhat unfocused/hazy/soft, the rest are fine although 4 pics, 4 different sky colors is kinda weird
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
What did you change, liked 1.1

Was the most realistic for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
well i guess wonders can't be expected from 10mp sensors compared to the main one and those output just fine details for fit-to-screen purpose, regardless of Gen 2 processing powers, a lil-offtopic but on my backup 10T pro ( Samsung HMX 27MP output ) LMC produced somewhat hazy pics on a sunny day for me aswell, had to delete most of them, just a few turned okayish detail-wise, where stock on same res was utterly more crisp and detailed, so i can't say i'm satisfied with LMC reliability shot-per-shot
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
LMC 47 tmzbeme

vs AGC and stock,

it looked like lmc
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
LMC and MCG have a functioning Photosphere. As to ”well functioning” the answer is none yet
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
check the ones above, i tried to make the zoom a little clearer without going overboard, i am still working on it

also in the main cam i reduced the brightness level a little, they were actually a little brighter than in reality which was great for night shots but a fraction too bright for day
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
First you have to tell us which is better, Mac or PC, and Android or iOS. 😀

There is no such thing as "best" GCAM ports or config. Different developers have different priorities and tastes. Download them all and decide for yourself.

Here are some objective facts to help you decide

1) LMC is the most actively supported. @JavaSabr posts new versions regularly and others tweak them.

2) AGC by @Surfeur-des-Reves is the next most actively developed but he has said that the pace of changes will slow down

3) I have posted ”near stock” versions for AGC and MCG. They meet my needs and I don't intend to modify them except when I run across specific issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Sounds perfect, will try, where to get 1.2 ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
likely tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
🌟 NiCkAM8PRO V2.2 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profile): https://gofile.io/d/z301BA 💥

Changelog:

Zoom 10x previous issues should now be fixed. It is sharp (close to stock), as this lens' main purpose is to 'see more'. Zoom 3x has been slightly improved as well. Fixed a small issue in UW's RamPatcher settings. JPEG compression is set to 99% for all lenses, front & back (we don't get any huge filesize anyway, as all lenses are only 10/12MP). HDR frames number is now back to 15.

1) Download the above .zip file to your device 'Download' folder and extract it in this folder.

2) Install the APK file.

3) Start the app and make sure you grant all needed permissions for it to work correctly.

4) Open the Quick Settings panel, then 'Load Configs', select my profile and have fun! :)

/// Preferably

enable 'HDR+Advanced'

photo mode for

Selfies

under low-light, for cleaner shots \\\

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

Cheers!

[ Don't expect many more / frequent updates for this project, as I lack time to keep working on it ]
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
LMC v47(sharp) vs Pixel 7 Pro. All pictures are taken in HDR Enhanced. I have tried to include a mix of good light, artificial light, and low light. 1x, 3x, and 0.6x.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Jpeg quality is not 99% 😀
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Well, the 'Hard JPEG Quality' setting was set at 99% for each and every sensor, in the RamPatcher. But yes, in the 'Advanced Settings', it said 100%. Not sure if one prevails over the other, but better safe than sorry, so I updated my post and fixed it, just to make sure it says 99% everywhere. Thanks for noticing it by the way :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Can someone test whether their GCAM reads QR codes? I have Google Lens suggestions enabled on both LMC and AGC and neither reads QR codes. Stock works fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
LMC better in every photo, not even close.

Considering they use the same software either google is not tuning their own software properly or the samsung hardware is much better.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
nice, the pixel was destroyed :D
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Ismt i

It is natural for parents to love their children, but even in that context the above statement is overdone. 😀
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I don't agree, I was surprised that pixel has "such" stock gcam
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
I think Pixel 7 Pro photos are little better imo.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
As the person who took the pictures I politely disagree. I find the Pixel 7 pictures better in all scenarios. More true to life colours and more detail in all of them. I have compared them side by side on a 27" calibrated monitor and the Samsung pictures are much warrmer and generally more saturated than reality.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
For me they are more or less equal, LMC is a little too dark and very little more saturated. If Pixel is more Reality you know where to go.

Good job by Google, for half the price 😉
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Well, it is a matter of personal preferences. For me, all pictures for Pixel look waaaay overprocessed. As someone said, all of LMC's pictures are much better, and for me, it is not even a fair battle. Ones from pixel appear to have more details, but it is not true and it is just a matter of overprocessing them. Same as pictures from stock Samsung apps (applies for both Main app and expertRAW). The only usable output from the Samsung apps is ExpertRAW 50 Mpix DNG.

But good thing is, that we have a choice. If someone is after verrry processed photos - go for one of the Samsung apps. If you prefer middle terrain - AGC, most natural look - LMC. The only thing that I miss in the GCAM apps now is the stacked 50 Mpix DNG.

Again, this is only my personal point of view. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
This is a bit apples to oranges comparison. The Pixel screens are nowhere near close, the in screen fingerprint readers are rather sad even without screen protectors, and there is nothing that comes close to the 10x camera on the 7 pro (may change with the 8 pro). But I agree, the Pixels are a good value.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
It was only about the Camera, never tried a pixel.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I didn't say anything about closing colors to reality, but when I looked at these photos from laptop I saw that pixel is the same oversharped and overprocessed as Samsung stock, LMC produces softer and detailed images :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Here is couple of comparison photos of one image that i find interesting. Tree is more detailed in Pixel than LMC. LMC also has little greenish in blacks.

I think focus is not in same place these photos and that maybe is reason that tree detail issues in LMC.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Yup, I think the focus was in a different spot. And on top of that Samsung has a faster lens (1.7 vs 1.9) and that means a bit shallower dof. That's the first one. As for the second example, I see the same level of detail, just more sharpening applied in pixel. And I do prefer LMC.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I agree with you, but on the second sample, LMC has more details on the bright part and much more on the shadows.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Looks like everybody like different things in photos. I like that black is black and not greenish. Also i don't need details in shadows because i like darker shadows.

Still it's good that we have LMC gcam and other gcam too so there is little bit everything for everybody.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
The reason why this area in LMC is greenish is exactly being true to life. It is mass of the leaves in the shadow, and leaves are green. So even bouncing linght in there have green cast. Pixel has just crushed it a bit, bumped a contrast and you have it black. LMC had a bit softer processing and that is why left it green. But yes, as you said, everybody like different things in photos.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
night test
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
I think leafs has notting to do with that green tint because it's visible in other pictures too. Leafs maybe boots that green tint more in that photo.

Some pictures it is stronger and some photos you not able to see it too much unless you zoom picture. Mostly that greenish is corners of pictures. Darker or night photos you can see it better.

but overall photos are good and config too.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
',,

If you want better and bedt photo try this. Lmc not other gcam
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
If anyone want to test. This version is fine for indoor and outdoor
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Maybe it's Noise reduction smearing green pixels ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Maybe or it's sensor awb that prefers more green than other colors.

I have seen couple of stock camera pictures with even more greenish than these gcam configs.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Yes, Apple has always a green tint
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Indoor dynamic range against a window cutout HDR+
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Upload v48 for all s23

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
thanks, looking forward to trying it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
anyone who may be waiting for my tweaked update i have decided to postpone it while i work on a seperate release which does not use JavaSabr's files.

it is a big update, changes to all lenses, and improvements for night photography especially.

if it goes well it may be a couple of days.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
But you could release it, waiting for 🙂
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Welcome to config makers community :D
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
i likely will not release as the new one will replace it, but hopefully you will like the new one
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] hkjr:
Can someone point me to the right cam, proper settings, to catch a sports action shot. Let use ice hockey for instance, someone taking a shot or someone skating by...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Use the AGC config from Surfer v2.2 (I think it's on the previous page). Agc supports face tracking focus which will help. Obviously this is a phone so depending on surrounding light, you might still struggle with getting shots without motion blur, but that's a limitation of phones and no gcam or stock camera will help you there
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
night test, hazy sky, low light
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vincanity68210:
Hello,

I'm pretty new to GCam. I installed LMC8.4_R15_aweme.apk and choose the Javasabr v48 S23U sharp XML.

It's working but I find the photos to be very dull compared to stock.

Can someone please tell me if I miss something ?

Thanks a lot !
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
This is @JavaSabr's design intent. Not dull but more realistic color rendition, less contrast and saturation, closer to what your eyes see. If you prefer the stock rendition then there is no point in messing with GCAM. You can also try other gcam configs scattered through this thread and see if you like them better.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Exactly 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vincanity68210:
I misspoke. Sorry I'm French and sometimes the translation is a little... complicated.

I meant that the photos are quite dark. And yet it seems to me that Javasabr fixed this a few weeks ago.

So did I miss a step or made a mistake?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
If the photos are too dark for you (it's my preference), just to enable expo toggle:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
🌟 NiCkAM8PRO V2.3 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profile): https://gofile.io/d/TAw0PT 💥

Changelog:

Integration, for all lenses (Back & Front), of Black&White and Sepia (Old) modes! Just enable / change them through the top-right icon on the viewfinder: 'Colorful' (normal), 'B&W', Sepia. You can even mix them with the included 'Leica' filter (top icon of the viewfinder), for some added light vignetting effects. Also, changed one value in the RamPatcher to try to minimize blown highlights (thanks GG for the suggestion).

1) Download the above .zip file to your device 'Download' folder and extract it in this folder.

2) Install the APK file.

3) Start the app and make sure you grant all needed permissions for it to work correctly.

4) Open the Quick Settings panel, then 'Load Configs', select my profile and have fun! :)

/// Preferably

enable 'HDR+Enhanced'

photo mode for

Selfies

under low-light, for cleaner shots \\\

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

Cheers!