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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
In my config I don't touch the colors at all, just to use system colors which Samsung provides.

PS.

And you looked at the very old examples.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
But the second delay is not blocker for you to make next shots. It's similar when you make 50Mp shots in stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Bassplayer31:
Brother, whatever city you live in looks beautiful! Lol I'm more impressed by the content than I am the quality of either photo.

Oklahoma looks like a wasteland comparatively.... Well truthfully it mostly just is a wasteland.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Thanks.

Btw, I have upload new version of my config:

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
Would it be possible to make the processing in the gallery to not be visible? As you said, when you take a 50MP picture in the stock camera app the processing delay still happens but you only see it if you immediately open the gallery. Not a big issue but it will improve user experience 🙂
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's a question for mod developer, I'm only config maker :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Master255:
show actual examples? Maybe you can save my s23 from being sold)))
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Todays photos, stock and GCAm:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Keos214:
Stock is loking much better gcam is usseless for now
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It depends on your preferences, for me these examples from stock are much worse than from GCAm
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Master255:
Don't you see that all the photos have a green filter?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I don't see it...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Maybe I will compare it with s22u of my wife in this case 😅
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
That's Kraków and sure man we are in Europe :D
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Something is wrong with your S23U screen or display settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] kevinmtz:
best one I've tried so far, the only thing I think Saba config does better is the selfies because they have more contrast and better noise levels, is an update coming soon?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] V0latyle:
Let's keep this discussion on topic for the S23, folks.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Master255:
I hope you got my message before the moderator deleted it. I can't help you anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] V0latyle:
Once again, keep the thread on topic. This discussion is for the Google Camera app on the Galaxy S23 Ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dummen:
I havent even touched front lens at all, didnt have much time to mess around lately.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
Took this for a spin during my lunch break walk.

I prefer v36, with this new version pictures are darker and more saturated. The stock camera pictures are 50MP.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
v38 is darker than v36, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
Yes, I do find v38 darker. The real outside light was something in between GCAM and Samsung stock camera. Not so dark as GCAM and not so bright as stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
Try v39 it is fine
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
I haven't tried v38 (yet) but are 10x photos in somewhat lower light still so dark?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
Didn't know there is a v39 already. Will give it a try. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Your can use HDR++ to solve your case with x10 :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
Hi, thanks for your work, I have not tried it yet, currently using a different version from another thread, but your latest photos seem to be a lot brighter than the other gcam versions although losing some contrast. They re a tad too soft but getting good.

Which version are you using in these photos?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's v39
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
But it is not good in low light.

Low light it is darker than others
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Quick question mostly for Java but maybe others know.. When you do your configs, did you test every setting with trial and error? Or is there some documentation for all of gcam 8.4 / lmc specific settings that describe what each setting does more or less?

Because I love your work so far, been trying out the final-sharp.xml on your Telegram for outdoor shots. Beats stock hands down! (Will share somes pics tomorrow.) But I'd like to add a bit of sharpness. Going in the settings there are many sub settings which aren't intuitive in what effect they will have. Right now I import in lightroom and add 50 sharpness in the details pane (which can sound like a lot but it's still miles and miles more subtle than stock!) but if gcam could do it for me, I'm all for adjusting your xml to my liking afterwards.

Same with other settings around gcam and lmc.

So before going for trials and errors, I figured I'd first check if you have access to a nice document describing them all :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Ridwan Siam:
Bro, I'm from Oklahoma lol
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
.m

I have been unable to find "easy" docs summarizing all the options for GCAM. It is probably somewhere with the source code that Google provides, but I don't have the patience for that. Given how many parameters Java and Surfeur change I doubt that they test everything with careful before/after shots. That would require shots on a tripod, under a variety of lighting conditions, with test charts for focus, sharpness, noise, color etc. The only way to accomplish this would be with automated scripts and analysis code, particularly since some of the parameters being changed interact with each other.

For me personally the default parameters are close enough. I tweak things like HDR range, sharpness, clarity, lights and darks and leave everything else alone. I have done semi careful comparisons between Java's, Surfeur's and my XMLs and the differences are subtle and a matter of taste. When I need that level of control I don't expect to get it in camera, so I shoot raw and finish off in ACR and PS.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
V2 of my XML for ACG_8.4_v9.5_scan3d

Changelog

1) Changed Auto WB models to make them slightly cooler under artificial lightning

2) Lowered the min exposure for HDR to -3, shadows get clipped too soon otherwise

3) Added tiny amounts of clarity to some of the rear lenses

4) Removed clarity and sharpness from selfie camera... cause my SO does not want to see too much detail in her skin 😱

5) Left the selfie AWB to a slightly warmer tone than the other cameras because that gives more natural skin color under artificial light

6) Boosted max ISO on the 10x lens to minimize the possibility of dark photos under low light. Works some of the time, night mode is still your best bet.

The todo list: do some testing with people shots. IMO faces tend to come out a bit on the dull side with all GCAM configs from this thread, need to see if there is a happy medium
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's hard to understand which level of brightness is good for you.

If I make photos brightest, it can be overexposed for other people :)

For example the stock, for me it's overexposed most of time.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Mostly I do many many experiments with these parameters, no any good documentation.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
🌟 NiCkAM8PRO V1.3 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profiles): https://gofile.io/d/lqMOl7 💥

Changelog & Suggestions:

This release brings fixes and improvements, with higher quality shots from all back lenses, very high details and low noise (much better than stock app), good contrasts while revealing more details in shadows, natural-looking colors with controlled saturation / vibrancy / exposure. Sharpening has been a bit increased to provide slightly crisper shots as well.

As always, I'd encourage users to enable Auto-White Balance (AWB) whenever they shoot in low-light / night time situations and under artificial lighting conditions, for better colour reproduction and more vibrant / less desaturated results.

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

Cheers!​
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Personally, I have spent countless hours over the past few years on different GCam releases, to try to understand what each parameter does and how to fix & improve things, using a tripod most of the time, under different lighting scenarios and objects / models to snap. Of course, there are so many parameters, settings and things to take into account when diving deep into the mods that there are things we sometimes tend to forget or we make some mistakes as well, hence the 'updates'. Not a GCam developer by any means here, but definitely devoted to improving it and pushing our camera sensors to their limits.

Previously, I was dealing with GCam mods for my Oneplus 8 Pro: https://xdaforums.com/t/upd-super-pack-of-google-camera-mods-for-oneplus-8-pro.4146951/

You could download some of the files at the bottom of the very first post in the above thread, it contains some PDF files to help you understand how to configure things and how they modify the results you get.

Cheers! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] keunhuvac:
Hi, is there anyway to take picture with higher resolution?

All give around 3000x4000 resolution.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
No, but if some devs will manage to enable 50mpx native gcam Will be a game changer
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
First picture is 10x stock

Second is gcam 10x it is the v39 lmc
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Hi, there's no way to get access, for now, to the sensor full resolution with any GCam mod. However, if you don't mind some (artificial) upscaling, then here is my custom V1.3 with 48MP on all lenses (50MP for back main). You will get some higher resolution, yes, but quality might -or not- be worse, depending on shooting scenarios and ambiant light.

Hope it helps.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
I really like this one, thank you for the work you put into this. Is there a setting that will allow me to lower the sharpening as I find it just a tiny bit too much for liking?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
can't install the fix apk?!

it asks if I want to update the app, so I tap update, then it says this:

app not installed as package conflicts with an existing package... like wtf?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Good 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Thanks for the feedback.

There are different ways to sharpen/soften your shots in GCam, the easiest one being: Settings > Lens Settings > Any-Lens > Image Processing > Config 1 > Main Settings > Sharpen A / Sharpen B (to soften, input a value slightly lower than 1, and slightly higher to increase sharpening).

Hope it helps.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Just uninstall your current version and install the one I provided in my latest zip file instead.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
Tried that doesn't work.... still same message

Well well, it was javasabr's version conflicting with this one... who'd have thought... oh well why have 2 versions anyway eh ;)

By the way the sharpening is perfect for me personally, to each their own I guess.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
You must have another aweme package installed. Remove it and try again
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Strange, should work if you uninstall any other mod with the same package name as the one I provide. Anyway, you can download AGC V9.5 ('scan3d' or 'ruler' package) from this link:

BigKaka: AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix

Download AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix by BigKaka.

www.celsoazevedo.com

Unfortunately, they didn't upload the very latest version of AGC on this website, but it should still work with my custom file anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Settings - lens settings - select the lens you want to adjust - image processing - config 1 - main settings - sharpness

Is one of many ways
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Upload new version V40

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Maybe V9.5Fix comes celso site later. Who knows 🤷‍♂️
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
just my 2 cents ...i'll agree that i also find them a little oversharpened, although like all the mods here, still very good
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I really really like this version, thank you!

Previous ones were too soft for my taste, this is perfect

This crop is from a very dark distant area... incredibile!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
So did a quick test and I'm really liking that new LMC v40. I think the extra sharpness is now striking a perfect balance. I do agree that AGC is a bit too sharp now. It's not really bad on the phone but on a bigger monitor (I use a 28" color calibrated BenQ) at 100%, the sharpness (or clarity?) is a bit overdone, at least to my taste. At this point though, it comes down to a matter of preference. In all cases, it just highlights how ridiculous stock sharpness is lol! I'm sure Samsung will tune it down eventually...

So here is a shot to compare. I took this not so great picture on purpose because it has a lot of hard details to capture for such a small sensor and over processing will easily show. In my order of preference (first one I like the most):

LMC v40 added sharpness is great! There is some chromatic noise in the branches which stock and AGC don't have. I love the natural details of the green tree to the right and the texture of the redish bricks behind the container.

Stock 50mp it won't let me insert it here but the details are great and not as much aggressive sharpness as the stock 12mp has. Still too much sharpness to my taste but the extra details can be very nice.

AGC. Looks more natural than stock but not as much as LMC to my taste. Sharpness/clarity a bit too much. Does a better job with no chromatic noise though. Totally usable picture!

And stock 12mp, just because we need another occasion to laugh at it... what a mess... and you don't even have to zoom in to 100% to see it...

And finally, some 100% crops. It's interesting that when looking at them, LMC feels not sharp enough... but you get used to LMC and then go to one of the other ones, now those other ones feel too sharp. Personally, I prefer LMC and I can always add a bit of sharpness after the fact if I really need to.

Here zoom in to 200% and look at those bricks. LMC did an awesome job with the details, even at 200%!

And here is the example for chromatic noise. Best seen at 200%. I'd say it's somewhat minor and not that easy to spot on social media etc. And can be easily fixed in post process. Though maybe it can be tweaked ever so slightly in GCAM?

Hope someone finds this useful! I sure did, to help decide what to use. Obviously this is just one scenario. Night shots, portraits, landscape, action shot. Many many more things to test...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Thanks for the feedback :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
What is the point of critiquing the stock photo? ....we know it is garbage.

The relevant point is the mods.

To my eye the from the samples posted LMC v40 is superb, in terms of color, brightness level and detail without being oversharpened.

Yes, there is a little noise in the branches.

Would be nice to see night shots.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Thanks for the detailed comparisons. For the sake of clarity, which AGC config do you find over sharpened? I added some minor sharpening to mine based on inspection on the phone screen, but that is the easiest thing to undo 😃

Every time we get a new XML I do some quick side by side shots, mostly with an eye towards natural color reproduction, as my main use for a cell phone snapper is pics of friends and family that I don't want to post process much beyond some very minor tweaks. In that respect I still find LMC slightly on the aggressive side (for my taste) particularly in weird light. The WB seems off, both in "normal" mode (saturation high) as well as AWB (too cold). But definitely better than stock.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
V1.3.1, with slightly less sharpening while retaining tons of details. Actually reverted back towards V1.2 sharpening levels. Not worth making it a V1.4 in my opinion, but as we all have different preferences, it's just "another option" available for everyone... :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dummen:
Try this config with this build: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/f/dl75/5/

Put it into\Download\MGC.8.1.101_Configs
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] CruiserCZ:
Dear JavaSabr,

I am currently trying this GCam on my S23 Ultra with your config. I thought shutter is supposed to be quick but this lag is terrible. Any way to optimize / fix this ?

Also is there a description of all the functions this LMC provides ?

Many thanks :-)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
If you select the normal HDR+ instead of HDR+ enhanced you will have faster shot.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
It was with surfer 1.3, since he had made new xml more recently. There are too many pages and XML all over this thread to go search everywhere lol!

As for portraits I agree I'm not sure I'd use lmc but I'll have to test outside as my kids move too much to take a picture of them inside with a phone 😂
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
After looking out these posts again i find out that Master255 is taking about stock camera RGB values.

Stock camera looks like it's add more green in pictures than it should. GCam colors is still more balanced.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
For version 36.

1. HDR++ frames count

2. Decreasing globally exposition

3. HDRNet - mode when GCAm everytime makes photos to buffer and then uses it to stacking on shot.

4. More contrast mode

5. Disabling limitation for ISO, can help with dynamic scenes in low light.

6.Enable/Disable optic stabilisation.

All information are in my TG group :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Samples stock and GCAm:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
I can reproduce it with lmc too because lmc uses system colors. Honestly I find it a non issue. The saturation test is not a good one, reading RGB values is. And if you look at other pixels in the snow, some have more reds, some have more blues but it's all within a few points of each other so globally, pretty much a shade of grey. At that point, I'd guess it's probably just slight light reflection of things around or just plain sensor limitations. Either way, I'd say it's negligible and a non issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Yeah, it does have system color option.. I hate it. I always use standard color correction. and i also use AWB and AWB gain fix to fix possible greens effects.

I don't if awb gain fix has any benefits with S23U camera but it's always option to try it out.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] CruiserCZ:
Thank you :-)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Correcting that LDR that it is low dynamic range.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
Witch version
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
V40
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] V0latyle:
Folks, if you want to discuss adjusting white balance/hue/color saturation, there is a thread to do so here. Please stay on topic: this thread is specifically about what versions of GCam work on the S23.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
White balance and color saturation adjustments are both part of GCam. So i think discussion of them should be accept if needed.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Did some more tests with AGC 1.3.1 vs LMC v40. To reduce the length of the post, I'm only including some 100% crops of part of the images. By the way I failed to mentioned in my previous comparison that I always use HDR+ and not HDR++ (i hate shutter lag).

Also, @JavaSabr is it possible that in v40 you only increased sharpness on the main lens and not on the other ones? Before v40, I used to add 25-50 sharpness in lightroom, which I don't need anymore on the main lens but for the other 3 I find that I still need to make the same adjustment. Look at the samples below where I also compared LMC v40 vs LMC v40 + LR sharpness adjustment.

0.6x AGC on the left, LMC on the right

0.6x LMC on the left, LMC with LR sharpness on the right

3x AGC on the left, LMC on the right

3x LMC on the left, LMC with LR sharpness on the right

10x AGC on the left, LMC on the right

10x LMC on the left, LMC with LR sharpness on the right

Overall I still prefer LMC but with the added LR sharpness. @GroovyGeek if you don't mind, could you PM me your AGC config? I've lost track of your latest one...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
With the latest LCM (v40) config, I see the behavior, that in v. good light conditions, the main lens produces well-exposed pictures, but the less light is, the darker the images are, which is not the case for e.g. wide lens. Presenting not pictures, but histograms for shots indoors, after the dark:

main lens

wide lens

It is clear that the main lens is too much shifting into darks and it is clipping That is somehow strange because during the day behavior is quite opposite. The wide lens is on the dark side, while the main is well exposed.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Have you tested enabling the pro button? It removes the iso max limit which might help. Also did you use hdr+ or hdr++? ++ might fix that issue
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Switching PRO seems to not have any effect on that. Same with HDR switch.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Quick offtopic question.

Is this photoshop program where histogram is viewed?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Yup, it is. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Thanks for the good comparation :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
Thanks, to me LMC looks a lot more natural, AGC looks overprocessed
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Thanks for your experimenting with my config, it's really hard to add something because for me photos indoor are good for me.

I think about to change expo compensation from decreasing to increasing to solve such cases for such users.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
I like the AGC best, LMC v40 looks a little underexposed and soft, plus the chromatic noise is not so good, respect to all the developers though!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
And that's the great thing we have many options available to everyone's tastes :) and it will just keep getting better I'm sure!