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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
I hope you have not found any of my own responses hostile since you mentioned the above responses without specifying them?

I try to be respectful with giving my opinion and constructive criticism. Any criticism is entirely 'constructive' and not meant to be hostile. If any of my posts appear that way well I apologize if you were referring to me.

As for the branches you mentioned, I did not mention that in my response because the detail in the referred mod looked fine to me, just softer, rather than with sharpening artefacts, so, in my case i did not think there was anything to add.

Again, I appreciate everyones work here.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Outdoors s23 is really impressive
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Samsung best, then LMC, ist a little bit green overall. ACG to dark-blue
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
LMC is a little bit oversaturated, as Samsung, ACG a little bit too less saturated . 1. AGC 2.Samsung 3. LMC
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Benoe:
And a big thanks to JavaSabr for the work he puts into the base S23(+) gcam even when he doesn't have this device! For ultra there are some who are actively working, but the base is not in the focus, so I really appreciate his effort. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
Thanks for the comparison, phones have come a long way.

PS is that Florida?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
Regarding the matter of detail vs sharpening, I usually use a good dslr as a reference point.

From my post above here is a crop with the nikon on the left and LMC Java on the right.

The level of detail is and sharpening is about equal on both ...if anything it is a little higher on the LMC.

The fact that they are so similar on a camera with a much smaller sensor and lens in incredible.

I see really no need to carry a dslr in most cases now (except it gives you some extra excercise and looks cool)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
That is actually crazy. Of course, perfect conditions are, and quiet static object, but it is just a smartphone. And new sensor, so I think quality in future firmware will improve. What I cannot wait for is to see if/when GCAM will have the possibility to save 50Mpix JPGs/RAWs. That will be mad.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Yeah... It's very interesting comparation 🔥
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Currently the main issue with small s23 is not supporting RAW10 for the main sensor (UW and TF support it) so I'm very limited to improve quality of the main sensor.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sev7en:
Hello,

someone tested already Shamim's gcam? The latest https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-shamim/f/dl32/ is supporting the S23 Ultra. When I launch it anyway on my S23 Ultra it crashes.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] avivasaf:
Why always force close

Tried clear cache

Tried different gcam versions

Always same issue
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
🌟 NiCkAM8PRO V1.7 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profile): https://gofile.io/d/NUff7R 💥

1) Download the above .zip file to your device 'Download' folder and extract it in this folder.

2) Install the APK file (remove any other GCAM app/package that you may have previously installed in case of any conflict during installation)

3) Start the app, open the Quick Settings panel, then 'Load Configs', select my profile, have fun! :)

/// Preferably

enable 'HDR+Advanced'

photo mode for

Selfies

under low-light, for best quality \\\

As always, I'd encourage users to enable Auto-White Balance (AWB) whenever they shoot at night, especially under artificial lighting conditions, for better colour reproduction and more vibrant / less desaturated results.

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

[ Special THANKS to GG for performing some tests on it ]

Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
What did you tweak in this one?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Slightly increased saturation, lowered sharpness, modified AWB values, changed HDR- values to what was suggested earlier here by GG, changed some black level values, increased gamma while lowering Dehazed_expo value (mostly for back main sensor), tried to improve noise reduction in low-light as well, and so on. A few tweaks might reduce some artefacts too, but haven't been able to test this much, as I usually don't shoot at trees or foliage.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Benoe:
How this will change? Samsung need to update the driver or gcam devs need to implement this?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Hi everyone, I have uploaded the v44 config:

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Same Question, could you please give info Changelog ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Yes, they need to update their camera driver, because only the main sensor from small s23 doesn't support RAW10 now
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Benoe:
Hopefully it will be included in the alleged big march camera update
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
hmm ...not sure yet ...couldn't do a proper test because the light keeps changing ...damn clouds.

Initial impressions, a little darker with more contrast and punch, highlights more balanced, more noise sharpening reduction, with less noise also the images are a little less sharp ....if you like very sharp photos you definitely won't like this one but there is a sharp config included you can use which i didn't try yet.

I have to play with it some more when the light is a bit more stable to see proper comparisons.

Definitely like it, just not yet sure if i prefer it to v42 until i can do more testing.

p.s @JavarSabr .....the front camera portrait mode adds a little too much contrast and darkening if you could take a look pls.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
NiCkAM8PRO V1.7 quick test

HDR++ on 1st shot, HDR+ second shot

Big improvement ...i'm impressed. There is a very nice level of detail and sharpness without looking oversharpened or overprocessed.

(and you can see a perfect capture of a flying bird in the HDR++ shot)

*ps ...does the front camera work with this mod? ....i don't see any way to switch to it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Thanks, still a work-in-progress but glad it's heading the right way.

Yes, of course you can use the front cam with it. Just select the circle with reverse arrows and that's it. Preferably activate 'HDR+E' for best results when using it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
well that the problem ....i don't see that button
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Hmm... I have reduced contrast for front :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
yes much better now thanks! :)

just a note ...config 44 starts in 10x zoom when first opened, for next time
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
@tmzbeme

It's nice pics with a lot of sun and light. Would be nice to see some pics in darker surrounding and inside.

For me LMC is more sharp, more details with more Noise, AGC is more softed, no noise but less details.

3x inside AGC is too dark, LMC is much better than Samsung.

Both are really good with HDR++, but that is nothing for pics with People, too slow.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
For kid shots, I go with agc because of facing tracking and get some pretty decent results though I will probably end up tweaking the config a bit as the configs are mostly tuned towards general pics (landscape, structures etc and not people) but if you go back a few pages, I have some portrait shots
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
I just updated the AGC shot with AWB off .....it makes a huge difference and should be off by default in the config ....that is why i keep messing up by leaving it on when doing my initial test having to swith between different apps and configs.

Of course the light had already changed by the time i realized and went back to retake the shot so it's not the same light condidtion as previous.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
I ve seen, was it wit HDR+ or ++ ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Always hdr+ so that there is no shutter lag. I would only consider hdr++ for a fixed subject like my wife. No chance it would work on my kids lol
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
updated the LMC 44 notes to include jpg quality setting
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
That said, I'm still unsure about the latest Surfer config or actually GGv2 as it had more noise but resulted in what looked like sharper faces, especially if you don't pixel peep. With more denoise, it creates an illusion of blur.. But in all cases, AGC with hdr+ is required as it's the only one supporting face tracking and no shutter lag
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
By the way, you can tune all parameters to your liking and then overwrite the config file by going to settings, config, save and giving it the same name. I have also added in the prefix the version of the config. That way I can bounce between different configs without redoing all these little settings like no grid, hdr+, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Johnny Eng:
I have tried and compare Stock samsung camera vs GCam.

Stock camera with standard filename, Gcam is name as SGCam.

I prefer the original camera 💯🙏
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
@JavaSabr could you please post v42 with the front camera portrait mode fix ....i prefer 42, it takes much better night photos and has more detail in general 🙏
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] jocoya:
Is there a way to use the black and white settings of Leica? (config 1~12) or other saved configs can be switched
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I'm continuing to experiment with noise reduction for v45, because I see that v44 is better with light, but is worse with details compared with v42
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
And AWB is "off" by default in all of my configs (I re-checked). I never turn it on by default, for any and every lenses. As I write every time I publish a new major update: "As always, I'd encourage users to

enable Auto-White Balance (AWB) whenever they shoot at night, especially under artificial lighting conditions

, for better colour reproduction and more vibrant / less desaturated results." In other words, you better leave this off the rest of the time.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
i believe the light problem with 42 can be fixed by changing the gamma factor to default from library ....i tried it for the main lens and the resulting photo is the same light level you see. I also fixed the front camera with the settings from 44.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Stock vs GCam:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] karrouma:
It V45 right
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's candidate for v45
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Simple test indoor, stock and GCAM:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Uploaded the version v45

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Is it possible to post some portrait and night pics compared with stock ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I can post night shots comparation, but not portrait :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Maybe nice Portrait from Your dog or Cat ? ,,😃😉
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
Took the new version for a walk during my lunch break. Even when the light conditions are great and shot in 50MP the stock version is miles behind. Loving the results of v45 and thank you again for sharing your work with us.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Thanks for the feedback 😌
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
GCam 8.4 can make portraits only for people
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Stock and GCAM portrait indoor in low light
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
There was an XML as the OP of this thread with an SGCAM config. That was originally posted on DP Review and that thread is still there. The camera IDs are probably not configured correctly.

As you probably know by now I am a fan of mostly plain vanilla settings. Will play with SGCAM today and see how it performs plain vanilla relative to AGC and may post a config here for you.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Indoor comparing stock and GCAm:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MilgeS:
Just been for a quick walk and took the 10x photos and zoomed in 100%,hopefully they'll upload ok. I just realised when I tried to upload the original files that stock is in HEIC format so won't upload, sorry.

Stock

LMC 45 sharp

BSG 8.7
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
thanks for comparison BSG looks impressive
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MilgeS:
I thought that too, it's the latest version but the original config from way back early in this thread so it shows how good that version is.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Night shots on GCam:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
only thing better about stock is that it doesn't blow out the lights, other than that I'd prefer GCAM
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] emmanuelgemini:
Is there a fix for the conflict with Samsung's Quick Measure app? For some reason, the phone thinks GCAM is the Quick Measure app.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
There is always 2 packages for gcam. One is using ruler and the other scan3d. If you already have samsung ruler and want to keep it then you have to download the gcam with package name scan3d.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
some night shots

Mostly JavaSabr 42 with my tweaks, a couple of AGC 1.7

ps. @MasterThiefGarrett yes it is
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Ridwan Siam:
Would you mind sharing your modified config?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
i'm still working on it. i just added some sharpening which i need to test tomorrow. some of the shots looked a little too soft
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] emmanuelgemini:
Is it possible to have a 50MP binned image for the 23 Ultra? or is 12MP the limitation for GCAM?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
is even sharp config too soft for you? :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
And the aweme package also works for the S23U, at least it does with AGC and BSG. So you can juggle three GCAM variants that way
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Which XML for BSG?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Downloaded it and can't figure it out. Does not show option to select lenses, looked through the settings and not obvious what is off. We have at least two workable GCAM configs with ACG and LMC so I am giving up 😀
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MilgeS:
I only have your v2 and v3 photosphere saved on my phone so it's one of those 2, photosphere isn't working so I'd guess it's v2 then?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
Haha no, I'm just working off the base 42 config so I'm tweaking it exactly how I like it. I think the added sharpening looks very good, will see tomorrow.

Btw i don't know if it is the LMC mod or your config or my tweaks, but the 10x zoom only works with HDR++ enabled ...any idea?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
what happens without HDR++ for x10?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
This was discussed a few pages back. Jaba limits max ISO in HDR+ and when good image quality is not possible the lens is not selectable. Pro mode removes this limitation... Or so I am told.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
the image is very dark, pixelated and jagged

GroovyGeek is correct, it works with pro mode enabled

it's a trade off ...with pro mode on there is a lot more/grain noise in low light shots
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
#566 it was discussed.

Is it possible to get your config for 42 ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
when it's ready, maybe by tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Some 10 x pics with stock, AGC and LMC in + and ++.

AGC ++ is fantastic, AGC + not working, LMC ++ not as good as AGC, Stock unbelievable bad.

Like #663 LMC is not really sharp in 10x
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] s3axel:
@woffu22 many thanks for the comparison, its indeed interesting to see how the cameras work with a subject like fur..... Possibly a stupid question: what is AGC +/++ and LMC +/++ ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
HDR + or HDR ++ in the different GCams
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aureum:
How on earth all reviews of 23ultra are say that the camera is best in class i do not know. I have still mine 10+ and standard shots are better on old 10+... 23u 12mpx are noisy and shot by shot have diff light etc... Is better just to use expertraw with jpeg output... Like no post processing while using stock camera app for 12mpx pics.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] s3axel:
Honestly speaking its not all reviews :), e.g. DXO gives a more differentiated opinion and some of the better Youtube reviewers also talk about the weaknesses... I fear that many of the "best in class" reviewers just echo the marketing language from Samsung and concentrate on the strengths - and they are so large in numbers that the overall impression is as you write.

IMHO the camera is decent to good and has unique features in its lens setup which give a huge versatility, at present stage there is definitely a lot of room for improvement but we have allegedly a huge update incoming.

Plus, sort of back to on-topic ;), we have these great options with GCams and all the great contributors that help us in getting an excellent alternative to stock camera - many thanks to everybody here !!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
All midrange and flagships shoot fine, can u inspect phone camera limitations closely? Yep. Will that ever satisfy us pixel peepers? Nop. Zooming phone photos beyond 200% is a recipe for disaster, fit to screen & the world seems prettier
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Ultrawide

Some more, Stock, LMC HDR+ and ++, ARC and ExpertRaw.

Arc lacks at the borders of pics with a lot of pixels. ExpertRaw awb is a mess.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Did the same with portrait mode, best was Samsung, both GCams was not clear, sharp enough, but more natural than Samsung.

So we can say:

For wide Cam take LMC 45 + or better if possible LMC++

For 3x LMC or AGC

For Night if you want daylight take Samsung,

For more Reality AGC or LMC.

For 10 x AGC ++

For Ultrawide and Portrait Samsung Stock.

,🤔🙂
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I'm not clear why stock is better for UW
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Yours is fine also, but I think it's no significant difference.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
We have much difference with details
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
In ultrawide there is minimum more details, but less dynamic range.

When you look at the window, it's just white. Despite the pics above it's better with ++, no wonder, but here is Samsung better.

In Wide Fotos from main lens , there is a very big difference in everything, wonder what they are doing all day long by Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
But don't compare your case with all cases... For example where LMC UW is much better:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Ok, we take yours ☺️

Maybe it's possible 10x to get sharper ?

Must be software, because as seen it's possible.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
The 10x lens is clearly best in class and actually mind blowing. The remainder of the lenses is just replication of what has already been available. There is a lot of hoopla around 200Mpx. Unless you do some computational magic with it, sample binning to get to 12Mpx buys you slightly better color fidelity (more accurate demosaicing) but not much else.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Your sample with cat from AGC has a lot of artifacts, I don't see extra details
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
The artifacts are strange indeed, but are they due to additional compression before posting? I helped Surfeur troubleshoot this assertion and after 1 gig worth of images of trees, branches, and cacti I did not see a single instance of this. A few examples below. Compressed 25% over the GCAM output to allow XDA upload.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
You are right, there is a lot of artifacts.

Animal fur seems to be very special ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Additional samples of UW stock vs LMC:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Any way to enable histogram display in gcam? Also does the ”Samsubg camera aperture” actually do anything on the S23U? I tested the f1.5 vs f2.4 settings and did not see a meaningful difference in DOF.

@Surfeur-des-Reves or @JavaSabr
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
LMC Java 42 with my tweaks Test. Should be final test, will likely post config shortly unless anyone has any feedback.

all hdr+, a couple in pro mode. It is an overcast cloudy day today with hazy light so not ideal sunny condidtions.

3x zoom

10x zoom

Indoor

pro mode

portrait mode
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
it's for s9/s10 only
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
🌟 NiCkAM8PRO V2.0.1 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profile): https://gofile.io/d/YsKv7s 💥

(Re-Uploaded with reference to the profile version V2.0.1 in picture filename)

Changelog:

Lots of modifications, improvements & tweaks in the RamPatcher, Dev settings & other parts of the app, for better results. Too many changes to enumerate them here, but many areas were revamped, including HDR levels, HDR models, few sharpening and noise reduction tweaks, color models...

1) Download the above .zip file to your device 'Download' folder and extract it in this folder.

2) Install the APK file.

3) Start the app and make sure you grant all needed permissions for it to work correctly.

4) Open the Quick Settings panel, then 'Load Configs', select my profile and have fun! :)

/// Preferably

enable 'HDR+Advanced'

photo mode for

Selfies

under low-light, for best quality \\\

As always, I'd encourage users to enable Auto-White Balance (AWB) whenever they shoot at night, especially under artificial lighting conditions, for better colour reproduction and more vibrant / less desaturated results.

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

[ Special THANKS to PhilMorin for performing some tests and for his suggestions]

Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
You can release it 🙂
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GeeTeeH:
Just to chime in - Photosphere is one of the major reasons I use Gcam. So if possible, could the various config authors please include if Photosphere works in their configuration each time?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
my config supports it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
I have been unable to make my BSG hack work with AGC so that is a nogo. Will try LMC again tonight.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
How to use 3D panorama in my config for LMC:

1. Activate 3D camera on right side, after the app will be crushed

2. Long tap on GCam icon to choose "Make a selfie"

3. Switch from selfie directly to 3D panorama MODE (not a camera module).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Interesting hack to get Photosphere to work on LMC - I can confirm that it works. Nicely done
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Anyone else finding the new rev on the yellow side? Yes it is under mixed light but compared to previous revs I am seeing a definite yellow cast.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
yes it is a little on the yellow side, nothing too off base though. I was looking at it for a while but I think it's ok