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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Thanks!

That should fix it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] xwonic:
i'm getting good results with 1x and 10x at night with this. impressive job
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Thanks mate! Make sure you update it to V2.0.1 too :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
Thanks!

but ....that actually made things worse. It did lower the unnatural brightness but it made everything else worse, especially the outdoor night focus, similar to 1.7.

Plus the indoor color is now much paler, sample below. In real life the color resembles the LMC.

The previous version was much better for everything except that bright light.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Ok, then I'll have to wait until it's night time where I am to deal with it. Thanks for letting me know. Just wondering if you did turn AWB on or off when taking your night shots.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
AWB was off as it came by default.

I did try with it on also to check and it made the color even whiter in the indoor shots.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
I just tried some indoor shots in a very dark room, and got absolutely no problem with focusing whatsoever, even with some distance. Also, it is a bit cooler with AWB off and warmer with AWB on. I also do specify, in my release notes, to preferably use AWB 'on' for night shots, even if my config comes with it 'off' by default. I'll check tonight anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Hi all :) Probably naive Question, but have to do it :-)

The Stock camera 50MPix & 200MPix, are they worth anything? Or is it just like using upscaling in DCAM?

Thanks for info!

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Comparison last releases Samsung vs LMC AGC daylight

1.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Wood ,,🙂
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
to me the difference is obvious, on Samsung the details are lost and its too dark, LMC has smoothed out the noise with somewhat smeared soft details, AGC lots of noise and unprocessed details, which would be lost when NR is applied , aka LMC like, tbh i don't think we can have much improvement in that regard as we hit hardware limitations and low res output
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I try to keep balance between NR and details
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
The tree shots clearly show the artifacts between the branches best. I don't see particular problems in the frame above. Yes, there is minor noise in the shadows in the extreme corners but to me that does not matter.

I still struggle to reproduce the branches artifacts, shot dozens of frames of fine branches against skies and don't see them.

I have noticed that AGC can produce such artifacts for certain combinations of HDR+ models and Lens Logic, particularly when the HDR+ model is set to Raven. And the Lens Model is Rear Telephoto. But Surfeur does not use that combination in his configs.

If you are up for it can you set both to Auto for the relevant lens(es) and try again? I messed with my own config last night and could clearly see these types of issues under certain conditions, and yet again decided tht with AGC it is best to keep most things default with very few exceptions.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
PS are the tree shots with significant amount of digital zoom in them? They triggers these types of artifacts in AGC, Java's LMC config handles them very nicely. Overall it is extremely well balanced but no matter what I try I can't get the shutter lag down to AGC levels, which is why I rarely use it. And the LMC menu structure is confusing to me, still can't figure out where to find the lens hardware configs and logic descriptions. Accidentally stumbled on them a week ago, but in 30 minutes last night and going through seemingly every menu I could not find them 😀
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Hdr+ has no shutter lag.. I take all pics including portraits of moving kids with it, works great!

As for all lens config.. Go to settings, lens settings, click the lens, and you have all settings there, including the image processing which has all 12 possible configs (even though right now only config1 is used)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I have upload v47 of my config:

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Where is the lens settings menu in LMC, I don't see it? There arsettings that modify lens performance under processing functions, photo processing, LMC tweaks, System settings, and additional cameras. I find it frustrating to hunt for these things in 10 places. AGC has them nicely streamlined.

Also I was looking for a place to select the hardware IDs of the lenses assigned to each of the buttons, not the text descriptions (which are, quite illogically, under additional lenses)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Oh sorry I read too quickly, thought you meant you couldn't find it in AGC! Ï

Len's logic in lmc is under processing functions, lens logic

Hw ID are in the main settings all the way down to additional cameras I think is what you're looking for.

I agree I like AGC menu better too :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
No digital zoom. In 10 x it's not so disturbing, but in 3 x and 0,6 you see it, when you show on a monitor. Despite one of the pics above with woman and green pixel in her face.

Java's LMC - could you share it ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Some portraits with agc 2.0.1.. Or not. Edit: just realized somehow I was still on v2.0 but filename says 1.8 when I load config 🤔

10x

10x

3x I push him a few times then run to the front for a quick snap. Only able to get a decent pic because of agc face tracking imo

1x same concept as above
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] vandal4e:
so which one is better to use your v42 or v47 which one did u prefer at the end?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
@tmzbeme

Can you characterize the difference of your setup compared to the 47 (sharp) ?

Images look great though :)

Thanks,

Ender

P.S. still please someone answer my naive Question what the 50 MPix & 200 MPix modes in Samsung are, just Interpolation or can they gain more Detail in some situations (for all i tried its crappy and not even up to par with LMC 2xupsampling).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
With stock app you get straight 200Mp and 50mp from sensor, no interpolation, simply less pixel bining. 200mp is definitely not worth it. 50mp is decent and can sometimes give more details than gcam but very often, surprisingly, gcam 12mp output has better details! Might change once Samsung starts pushing their big camera update
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
So what are your tweaks? :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Follow instructions by the end of this post

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
v47 is better

different lighting, color and sharpness
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
@PhilMorin

Thank you that was my understanding as well.

Is it technically (because of API Limitaions) impossible for GCam to get those pixels from the sensor?

When i compared Stock 200/50/12 MPix to GCam by JavaSabr or Surfeur-des-Reves i saw better Details in the 12Mpix from GCam as Samsungs filter destroyed everything fine.

But when i shot stock only 200/50/12 from a Siemens Stern in decent studio setup i saw a huge gain for 50 MPix and a *slight* gain for 200Mpix.

So i was quite sure its something native but in some other GCam threads they stated its just upscaled.

So it is not.

Hmm, if only we could get our hands on that without Samsungs nasty filters....

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
lighting increased slighly, color tuned to more accuracy (to my eye) and sharpness increased slightly (from the base 47, did not try the 47 sharp)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
@tmzbeme

Just tried 10x zoom in low light.

With JavaSabr config the pic Brightness is equal to the preview brightness, Shutter was 1/10.

With your config it will shoot at 1/25 thus the resulting image is way darker than preview.

Is there a "low limit" of 1/25? While sensible i want to ba sure that pic is always rendered as close as possible to preview, anything i can change?

Ender

P.S. you said: "sharpness increased slightly" --> compared to JavaSabr normal or sharp config?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Yes I have seen the same where is some specific scenarios (ie: when lighting is perfect) that 50mp can give great results with much less processing than 12mp stock. To me, 200mp is not worth the extra file size but there could be some use cases.

Let's hope Samsung eventually opens those modes to 3rd party apps!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
On which settings level have you configured such correction?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
i didn't play with the shutter speed, i can have a look later or you could try enabling pro mode or Java would probably have a better idea
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
CF-1 is set to 1.00
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
@Surfeur-des-Reves

Thank you for your config, i like the law light performance a lot.

But one Question: i can see those controls for shutter speed, ISO sensitivy and Focus range but they are ignored.

Nothing changes, no matter what is´set there.

What am i missing?

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
just did some tests ....like i said in my suggestions, if you want the same brightness you can either enable pro mode or hdr++ or both ....i recommend pro, but if you have a very steady hand you can try both but with both the images will have a lot of oversharpening at full resolution ....i suggest just pro
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] penfold:
they don't seem to make a difference on any mod, that's why i leave mine disabled.

The only thing that seems to works is by leaving manual exposure enabled then you can click a spot in the image and adjust the slider
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Well at least i am not too dumb then :-)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
They only work under hdr enhanced, not hdr+ unfortunately. So you can force super fast shutter speed at the cost of shutter lag 🤷
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
That is super weird.

Is this a GCam-for-non-Pixel phone bug?

I can hardly believe the original Pixel is doing that, does it?

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] PhilMorin:
Have no clue about the original pixel but I don't think Google has any pro mode so I don't even know if forcing shutter speed is even possible in the original gcam?

And so far it's the behavior that I've seen in lmc agc and SGCAM
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
If you have a lot of Landscape the 200 mp are great, no question.

All other situations ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
As explained earlier by PhilMorin, it only works when HDR+E is enabled. Particularly useful at night or in low-light situations when you want to force a lower shutter speed, compared to the 'auto' value. I like to select 1/8 or 1/4th at night when using tripod or stable surface, for clean and extremely detailed shots. You can also play with both Shutter-speed & ISO values to get your perfectly balanced shot. There is no real 'Pro' mode when using AGC mod, and no shortcut to the shutter-speed menu when long-pressing the gallery icon l(contrary to LMC mod), so we need to have access to these sliders to have a bit of control over the image. The fact they don't work with HDR+ is a bit of a bummer though.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
🌟 NiCkAM8PRO V2.1 (AGC V9.5 GCam) Custom Pack (APK + Profile): https://gofile.io/d/BP1et6 💥

Changelog:

Some tweaks & improvements, essentially in the RamPatcher, to slightly improve noise reduction, ISO adjustments, tuned down lightness in low-light / night as well, slightly boosted vibrancy.

1) Download the above .zip file to your device 'Download' folder and extract it in this folder.

2) Install the APK file.

3) Start the app and make sure you grant all needed permissions for it to work correctly.

4) Open the Quick Settings panel, then 'Load Configs', select my profile and have fun! :)

/// Preferably

enable 'HDR+Advanced'

photo mode for

Selfies

under low-light, for cleaner shots \\\

As always, I'd encourage users to enable Auto-White Balance (AWB) whenever they shoot at night, especially under artificial lighting conditions, for better colour reproduction and more vibrant / less desaturated results.

For close-up shots (but not only), you might getter better results if you manually focus on the brightest zone of your subject, as it will usually ensure better overall contrasts, gamma levels and less clipped highlights.

For higher-quality / less noisy results in low-light shots, you can adjust the shutter speed slider, on the left side of the viewfinder, to 1/15 or even 1/8s of a second (just remember to remain still for a second or two).

You can also try the "Leica Filter" mode if you fancy some different color temperature / white balance and vignetting in your shots.

Cheers!

[ Don't expect many more / frequent updates for this project, as I lack time to keep working on it ]
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Really nice pics. Should change my place to FL .

It would be very nice to take some of the pics same time with the stock camera to make it comparable, to see what's better than Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Not sure how you get such results but here is what I get, handheld, taken inside room with light on one side, low light on the other side, and very dark areas in a few areas as well (with 0,6x, but it's about same with 3x):

HDR+

HDR+E

Perfectly usable to me.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dennis46419:
Now it works must quick switch to front cam. Thx

The niccam without config file make better results in 10x zoom

1 nic

2 nic with config

3 stock cam

I try some other pics outside and inside. But looks both impressive again stock cam
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Don't understand.

It's AGC8.4.300_V9.5Fix_scan3d and loaded your config ?

Deinstalled, reinstalled 2 times, now it works ! Correct pictures 🙂

How can I delete my comments here in forum ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
I don't think you can delete a post but you can edit it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Edit post and then report that post via report button or just report without editing.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Hayabusa TX:
holla guys. on hires i get 22mp photos from s23 ultra. pictures are great in terms of colour reproduction, ultra wide seems washed out and night sight doesn't work good. need any advice
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Surfeur-des-Reves:
Yes, I found what was causing the issue, will fix it in next release for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Holy McMoly!

I am currently verifying Stock vs. Pro vs. Expert Raw vs. ProShot vs. NicKam vs LMC (with latest configs each).

But as a side effect i now look at 2 raw files from Expert Raw at 1x 12MP vs 50 MP.

It is such a difference that blows me away.

More to report later aboutother findings, just as a sidenote: the JPG from expert Raw are hilariously oversharpened and over saturated EXCEPT the 50 MPix jpg that is almost usable.

But here 12 vs 50 Mpix without Adobe raw sharpening or denoising

(Side by side in Photoshop, 12 Mpix to 200% YES BLOCKY but you can still guess the enourmous difference)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
I ahve done these tests a while ago too. I could not find any difference in quality between stock jpeg 50mp and pro/raw expert jpeg 50mp. The stock 50mp has the benefit of having Auto HDR which pro/exper raw won't have. I don't see any need for pro/expert raw unless you need the raw file.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
No this is 12MP raw vs 50MP raw! not 50 vs 50!

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Very nice job. A little more bright than JavaSabr, little more details, now it's like AGC, minimal difference.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Barmenchik:
I apply. Just like other mods. Maybe it doesn’t apply ... I’ll throw off the video now ...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's should be applied, but it's not... Could you try to apply it 2-3 times? Because your screen state before crushing is with default config... 🤔🤔🤔
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Barmenchik:
Used 6 times in a row...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Uhh, I have no idea why it's not applied :((((
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I suggest clear data and cache, uninstall the app, DELETE gcam folder in file manager, reboot and try the procedure again
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] inthedark22:
The lmc8 app disappeared for me over night. Not in my apps list either. I can only update the apk what i downloaded but gives me an error. Weird
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Barmenchik:
Already did that. Does not work..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Stock vs gcam on all sensors:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
What gcam build you are using?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
From my post

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
That xml of your.. Is developer settings unchanged?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Yes, I have not touched it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dayuser:
Good good (y) I look out your xml with another phone.

Edit. Can't use it on another phone. LMC crash after installing that xml.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Because my xml include Samsung sensor's ids, you need to change it to your.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
Any way I can up the brightness a bit, so that it stays that way?

And apply a little more sharpening?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Are you about which mod? Which gcam and config?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
The one from your post, I believe page 1 :)

Yes, this one: https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/#post-88178597
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
So in your case this config was imported successfully, nice to hear :)

Now I'm focusing on fixing white balance and balancing brightens with hdr :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MasterThiefGarrett:
Yes it works fine, taking photos that is.

There's no possibility to make videos in 4k60 but honestly I don't really care about that.

I'm looking forward to more/other tweaks, thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
For video I really like video pro in stock, you can enable in preferences extra quality for pro and the result will be super :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
Yes, ExpertRaw 12 is really bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Well, i tested these App variations:

Stock (latest Samsung, its said to be updated in a huge way soon) "Make Stock Great Again" lets see...

Stock with Camera Assistant setting Smoothing to High or to Medium (actually probablyx not smoothing but less sharpening i hope)

Stock / Pro

Expert Raw

ProShot

LMC8.4 with javasabr_lmc15_s23u_v47

AGC 8.4 with NiCkAM8PRO V2.1

I tested in good light conditions, all automatic.

Takeways:

Forget Stock, oversharpened, oversaturated, way too much contrast. You know all of that :p

Forget ProShot: useless in 1x, 3x & 10x okayish but pay for that? No 50 Mpix? Nooooo!

Forget Expert Raw shoots raw OKAY (who can't) and jpg are same class-of-horrible as stock except 1x 50MPix wich is just fine.

200 Mpix did not deliver better pix than 50 MPix. I saw some advantage on "Siemens Stern" but who knows if that was the Ai :cool:

Nobody can beat 50 Mpix for the 1x lens, so there will be always a need for shooting with Stock (doh) as long as API does not allow others to shoot 50 MPix

Stock with Camera Assistant set to "High" smoothing (which hopefully just means less sharpening) is actually usable in terms of Artifacts. 10x is even too soft sometimes. 1x 50MPix still oversharpened. But all in all USABLE. As sometimes it is too soft also Medium Softening in Camera Assistent is okayish.

(see 6) with a filter reducing Saturation and Contrast is actually QUITE usable. Boy do i hope the filters are applied very early in workflow. Dragging a Pixel back and forth is near criminal. But at least for good light situations it does its job.

LMC vs. AGC. --> For me AGC wins each time. 1x, 3x, 10x are near-good-raw-editing out of the Box except that shadows are too dark. LMC is too dark(and blurry but that can be helped with sharp variant).

Remember:

I just did it quick and dirty and only with one scene in perfect light.

So these are my very subjective findings. And i am not even a huge expert.

So: Saying that i oversimplyfied is understated :cool:

So do not beat me too much.

For now i would shoot 3x & 10x with AGC and 1x in 50Mpix Stock set to Medium Smooth in Camera Assistent.

Lazy as i am i will PROBALY just always shoot Stock with High Smoothing (less Sharpening) and using my self created filter if i remember it and have a DB´NG if it really made a mess.

EDITED:

Realized that Pro only does half of the bad stuff, so i probably use Pro for 1x 50Mpix + AGC for Zoom

EDIT END

Ender
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
For people who like overexposed photo my config has such button 😂 you can just enable it and to have the same overexposed photo :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Yes i only tested full auto not LDR or stuff. If i want a quick shot i need a quick shot. Tweaks come later. As said, i am scratching the surface :)

But clearly for this lighting LMC Standard was way too dark, like 1 to 1.5 F Stops.

Need to try that button :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
For me the stock is overexposed by 1 F stop, but this toggle is very easy to use, you don't need to touch settings, just quick enable/disable
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] koahhe:
A few snaps taken earlier with LMC v47(sharp), AGC v2.1 and stock 12mp. 1x, 10x, and 0.6x. Other than AGC being a bit brighter, I don't find much difference between AGC and LMC when shooting in good light. I will post low-light pictures later on. Sky doesn't represent the natural color on any of them.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Thanks for confirming that LMC is darker and "sharp" equalizes what i found lacking for the non-sharp variant.

Will try that, maybe in conjunction with the "overexpose" button JavaSabr sold to me so well :)

Ender

EDIT: confirmed: yep using the "sensible exposure" button ( :p ) + "sharp" variant LMC with JS setup is very similar to AGC with NK setup.

What irritates me: The added exposure (or lack of it without) is not showing in the preview, is it?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Preview doesn't show the final expo because in the result you have HDR processing which changes light and shadows
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
What is niccam without config?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Well i assume this means: Just installing AGC 8.4 but not load up the niccam config.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
I am not sure I understand how one reverts back to 100% stock GCAM without loading a config other than deleting data and cache, saving the result as a config and then loading it when desired.

But I agree, I have always gravitated towards the results of nearly stock AGC and MCG which is what the earlier configs I posted tended to be. Every time I tweaked things they either made little difference or actually hurt. At the moment my preferred config is near-base AGC with the correct sensor noise models and decreased sharpness and clarity in selfie mode.

Where Java's and Nick's results tend to be better is under low light in HDR+ mode with low contrast images, where near stock AGC produces dark results, particularly with the 3z and 10x cams. Switching to night vision or HDR+E however resolves that difficulty, while the HDR+ outputs of both Java and Nick under these conditions only look superficially good because they work off the same base image.

Having said that I always update to the latest Java and Nick configs and enjoy using them occasionally.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enderffx:
Thats what i do, yes :) So at least we are 2 idiots then :p
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GroovyGeek:
Pro mode does not HDR regardless of the setting of the auto HDR button. You will feefi5 be disappointed by it in anything but great light.