yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I really don't think the golden cage principle could apply to any Android device unless it's an iPhone!! :) Samsung can try as much as they want, but as long as we are in the Android world it would be impossible to put us in a cage. But yes, you may want to exchange the buds with the XM4s!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
If you have the XM4s, I'd suggest doing an A-B testing and listening to the difference yourself. I was sceptical too initially, but after listening to the buds 2 for a while now, my XM4s have become secondary. I use them only when I listen to my portable music player since the buds sound garbage on AAC
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
Well, as this codec is exclusive to Samsung products, if you don't have a Samsung phone recent enough to pair them with, you loose one of its main selling points (the main one?), and you can't compensate with an other Hi-Fi codec. 😕
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Joloxx9:
I do not have either, got senheiser momentum 2 and they are slightly annoying me. I was looking to her news pair, was thinking about xm4 and maybe now Galaxy buds🤣

Will do some research
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Joloxx9:
Does buds use "special" codec?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
Yes, their proprietary codec is called SSC (Samsung Seamless Codec). But they can use AAC too.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Joloxx9:
I quite hate AAC and all other codecs, I am sad that S21U hasn't got proper aptX support and got delays -.-

Well anyway I am going to see, the price of them quite similar so maybe I will buy one or another. Definitely not got with senheiser once again.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
If you're getting a S23 Ultra and that the "Free Buds 2 Pro" offer is available in your country, then that's basically the best option you have. But if not and that the price of the Buds 2 Pro is around 200€ where you live and you're prone to change of phone's brand regularly, I'd advise you to invest in something more versatile.

Edit: I just read that they support SBC codec, which acts an in-between of AAC and LDAC (in term of bit rate). But if you stick with Samsung, SSC will cover your needs. 😉
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] masi0:
AAC is far more superrior than SBC, which is in fact 20yo codec.

on other hand LDAC is not state of the art and definitely is not a lossless codec
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] robi101012981:
Doesn't have aptX-Adaptive which really sucks if you have the Sennheiser Momentum 4...

aptX sounds fine, but I think it would be better with at least aptX-HD..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
Look here: https://xdaforums.com/t/ldac-on-galaxy-s23-ultra-is-it-working.4552963/post-88140155
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] lil_kujo:
I have the soundcore liberty 3 pro and LDAC is working just fine. Both under developers option and on the device. In order to make it work you have to go to the options on the Bluetooth device and change it from there.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Hello comrade, did you test the buds 2 pro? How's the battery holding up for these? For me, they are dropping faster than lead in the water!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
Not yet, but I think the LDAC and Hi-Fi codecs just consume more battery, as they are using higher refresh rates (and so more processing power). As I explained, the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro are for my wife, and I couldn't give them to her yet (wasn't aimed for Valentine's day). But don't worry, I'll let you know when I'll have the opportunity to do so. 😉
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
You are right that Hi-res codes are a drain but the buds 2 drop really fast compared to the XM4s. I think the XM4s are fitted with larger batteries than the buds 2. Well, I guess that's the sacrifice for style and size.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
With more than a thousand hours of listening (spanned over 14 months) with my WF-1000XM4, LDAC is bringing them from 100 to 0% in about 4 hours (ANC activated). So I expect brand new Buds to last at least that amount of time.

How long are they currently lasting, for you?

Edit: I've seen that Varta produced some batteries compatible with the WF-1000XM4, but that they weren't planning on selling them to end-customers. I'll try to check with my company if we can order some "samples" that I'll pay myself afterward. I really don't want to send my earbuds to Sony, especially when I can fix them and even expend the battery life myself. 😅
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
The buds too last about the same time! Well, let's close this case here. No point in carrying this case further and inviting the mods for off-topic discussion! Long story short, the buds 2 are really really good when paired with a Samsung device.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
They can be had for around $99* now. Not necessarily a good sign. I don't like it losing it's wings, another inexplicable Samsung bad decision😖

The Buds+ get 11 hours. They are definitely better for calls etc if needed all day.

Music sound Q is good but naturally I like to do a side by side sampling with the Buds 2. Fit is everything though so the lack of wings can compromise the fit. It's always a crap shoot if you'll be able to get a good fit; been much better if Samsung hadn't altered the original external design! These parts are interchangeable between the Buds and Buds plus, which is also nice.

Any one sampled both Buds plus vs Buds 2 pro? Thoughts?

* buds 2 not the buds 2 pro... grrrr
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
Gave them a try today, you were right on the SSC codec, pretty enjoyable.

The audio360 is clearly gimmicky (maybe a function aimed for Bluetooth audio festivals? 🤣). The Buds 2 Pro weight is clearly disturbing for me, as I'm being more used to the WF-1000XM4's bulkiness.

It nearly made me hope for a XM4 "Designed for Samsung" labelled that would include this codec. We'd have better battery life on the XM4, and the audio quality would be nearly untouched.

So yeah, very good pre-order bonus, I'll surely buy my wife an other pair of TWS buds that won't be tied to Samsung's proprietary codec to work at their best (so yes, it will be your fault 😏). 🤔
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
@Jaxom84 happy that you enjoyed the B2P. It takes some time to get used to the "nothingness" of the B2P compared with the XM4's bulkiness. I'd suggest getting comply tips for this TWS or swapping the XM4's tips for the stock B2P tips. It will make a world of difference when isolation comes into play.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Jaxom84:
Actually, I really didn't like the foam tips of the XM4 (getting sticky pretty fast and difficult to wash), and I ended up taking silicon ones that I was feeling more comfortable with. The Buds 2 Pro are quite comfortable as is for me, but as you mentioned, the isolation is not as good (and ANC is clearly better on the XM4's side).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] FYL21:
LDAC works fairly well with my Sony Linkbuds S, and my various Soundcore earbuds and headphones (Liberty 3 Pro and Space Q45).

However, I am noticing that AAC sounds rather poor on my S23 Ultra, worse than SBC (which gets a bad rap but sounds quite good on most headphones except Samsung Galaxy Buds which have a nerfed bitpool). There is an intermittent channel delay and the treble sounds splashy.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mlg250:
I recently purchased the S23 Ultra. Before this I had the LG V10 and then the LG V40. I cannot adequately express my distaste for Samsung's forced glorification of its own products. The UI won't sit quietly in the background letting the Android phone be an Android. Nor will it sit quietly allowing Nova Launcher to tweak the Android phone! I find I kind of have to run both the Samsung UI and the Android/Nova UI. The S23 Ultra insists upon its presence even by insisting you use the thumbprint on the lockscreen which often doesn't work.

And now I've discovered that the many years of quality streamed music with the LG LDAC and my Sony 1000XM4 are over. Samsung lists various codec choices but many of us, myself included, find implementing them complicated and mysterious.

As noted, the golden cage that has applied to Apple always kept me far away from their products. It's very sad that LG finally got pushed out of the market to be replaced by lots of glitter and low-key cost savings not discovered until the owner tries to use them. It's also very sad that choices for the high-end Android market have dwindled.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
One UI is superior to Nova, more efficient and stable. Together with the Good Lock family of apps and the Galaxy store there's more customization than any other stock phone. It's best to utilize the Samsung ecosystem for most things but at first it's a challenge. Many of the Samsung apps have been around for a long time and work well. Some do not.

However my thrill with Samsung ended with the N10+ and Android 9 maybe 10 for various reasons. In particular no expandable storage, worse form factor, increased weight and no real actual use increased efficiency as it's top heavy now... they even forgot their name, NOTE.

Samsung supports LDAC although SSC is pretty good too. Neither comes close to 24 bit though however for wired sound it's an option.

Samsung added some new features to their bt like 360° sound thing. Not sure I like their newest Buds though and stuck with the Buds+ because I want the seal, fit, no noise cancellation and extended battery life. They don't fall out, ever.

Apple works. That's only good thing I have to say about it. I loathe Apple.

Unfortunately both Samsung and Android become more like Apple every year. They are compelled to compete by emulating Apple rather than giving different, better options. Expandable storage was always something Google wanted to kill. Like MS they want you to be slaves to the cloud and them.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
[Nothing Phone 1] Dev Aman:
Hi everyone,

If your phone (1) does not react on any of yours actions. You may have the same problem. This is an instruction how to fix it without Disassembly.

‼️ Do this at your own risk, I am not responsible for any damage that may occur to your device due to this guide or anything related to it. ‼️

case 1:

You will have "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008" device at your Windows devices list in device manager. (EDL mode)

case 2:

You will have "Qualcomm hs-usb diagnostics 900e" device at your Windows devices list in device manager.

Files Required:

1. Download Drivers Qualcomm_QDLoader_HS-USB_Driver_64bit_Setup.zip and install it.

Alternatively you can use windows update to automatically install drivers for you.

2. Download Flash Tool (Alternate Link).

Rom is included in Flash Tool.

Note: If you you have phone(1) in Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 mode [Case 1] then simply use Flash Tool to flash stock rom as its already in EDL mode.

Run Tool

Mark the Option FIRMWARE FLASH.

Connect phone in Edl (9008 mode).

Click 'start' button

If not able to boot into edl mode then there are 3 options to do so.

1. use adb reboot edl.

(which in case of bricked device is not possible)

2. use Force edl mode using a modified USB A to C cable. [Prefered Method]

3. use test points on phone motherboard which requires disassembly of phone.

Steps to make and use EDL cable Method

1. cut open a usb data cable.

2. you will see 4 wires [red, green, white, black].

3. now you need to connect and short BLACK and GREEN wires .

4. power off your phone.

5. to force power off , press power key only for ablout 15 sec.

6. connect usb A side to any usb 2.0 port of windows pc.

7. now IMPORTANT part, connect black and green wire in data cable, press Vol+ , Vol- button on phone for 5 sec, then insert usb C side to phone (1).

8. at this stage phone will not be detected in PC.

9. After about 8 seconds disconnect Black and Green wire which u shorted.

10. now the phone will be detected in EDL mode. [Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008]

11. Follow same flashing steps.

Here is a guide for making EDL cable- Video.

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[Nothing Phone 1] Dev Aman:
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if Phone Detected as 900E use edl cable method to boot to EDL mode

then flash Rom using tool.
[Nothing Phone 1] Dev Aman:
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Bricked Nothing Phone Condition

Always Booting to this Screen.

Can be solved by this method.
[Nothing Phone 1] Dev Aman:
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Flasing Via Tool
[Nothing Phone 1] shin jae ho:
thanks work good

it can solve 'any key to shutdown'
[Nothing Phone 1] jaggu1989:
Nice work.
[Nothing Phone 1] ot_inc:
We were also able to connect with this cable.

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[Nothing Phone 1] Hard_k.i.k:
already flash my noting pone 1 but problem now is fastboot mode after flash why?
[Nothing Phone 1] Dev Aman:
Go to recovery and wipe data or Factory reset device
[Nothing Phone 1] Flamehood:
Unable to got to 9008 mode as device not recognised coming
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
What method are you trying to use to enter EDL mode?
[Nothing Phone 1] Flamehood:
Wire short
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Are you sure the cable you're using is working? Have you tried it with other devices? Does your phone show up in Windows device manager (devmgmt.msc)?
[Nothing Phone 1] Flamehood:
It is showing in 400e mode in device manager
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Try force restarting the phone (hold volume up + power) while the phone is connected to the computer and D+ is shorted to GND.
[Nothing Phone 1] Flamehood:
My phone have a black screen and no button functional
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Force restart is an hardware feature, it works anyways.
[Nothing Phone 1] Hard_k.i.k:
thanks but same problem already flash and wipe reset
[Nothing Phone 1] Humblegeek:
Worked for me like a charm almost thought I would send it for replacement as it was only 3 days old but after trying the cable method it magically worked. Kudos to the author
[Nothing Phone 1] coomac:
This fixed "press any key to shutdown" for me. I picked up a cheap USB cable and connected the green and black wires. Once the phone went into edl, I switched to a regular cable to flash.
[Nothing Phone 1] Pheggas:
Ah, right. Didn't notice the cable modification method at first.
[Nothing Phone 1] Pheggas:
Alright. Thank you for your time! Appreciate it.
[Nothing Phone 1] Ashiq.makkar:
booted into edl mode via adb reboot edl

but keep getting

error: function: main:314 could not connect to \\.\com3

error: function: port_connect:99 failed to open com port handle

can someone help please?
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Try a different setup (cable/port/computer).
[Nothing Phone 1] Ashiq.makkar:
tried different cable and port, still no fix. i actually got edl to work once before when my phone got hard bricked and used modified usb to enter edl mode
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Is the phone detected as QDLoader 9008 in Windows devices?
[Nothing Phone 1] Ashiq.makkar:
No. how do you do that? excuse my noob question
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Have you connected the phone with a cable that has DATA+ shorted to GND?
[Nothing Phone 1] Ashiq.makkar:
yes. and unbrick tool recognised edl mode and that saved me from a hard brick but now that i have adb, i tried 'adb reboot edl' and keeps getting the above mentioned error
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Why do you want to use the unbrick tool if you have a working phone (I immagine)?
[Nothing Phone 1] Ashiq.makkar:
do I need to short usb Data+ with GND instead of adb command to get it work?
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
They´re different methods, if the device is not functional, then you can´t CMD to it, you have to use a hardware method instead.
[Nothing Phone 1] Ashiq.makkar:
device is working. and can use CMD
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
If it is working, then why you should need to do what you described in your last post before this?
[Nothing Phone 1] srisuren5225:
Where is button in this diy cable ?
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
Picture doesn´t show a cable but a programm called QPST. The EDL cable is not guaranteed to work with all devices and firmware versioons, anyway you can order one, to your preferred seller company, it costs no more than 4 USD, anyway, I have one that sometimes worked, others not.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
Can anyone help me with this issue here?

: ERROR: function: is_ack_successful:1089 SAHARA_NAK_INVALID_IMAGE_TYPE
15:47:25: ERROR: function: sahara_start:953 Exiting abruptly
15:47:25: ERROR: function: sahara_main:982 Sahara protocol error
15:47:25: ERROR: function: main:320 Uploading Image using Sahara protocol failed
15:47:27: {ERROR: Failed to open com port '\\.\COM3'}

I have tried to flash firmware using the EDL mode. Device recognised in 900E mode, changed it to 9008 Debug mode using (Update drivers - Windows - Selection from list of Qualcomm drivers)
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
I don't think that changing your drivers magically makes the phone boot into a different mode. I think you need to use an EDL cable (D+ shorted to GND).
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
Got it. Thankyou.
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
You have to update the drivers to QDLoader 9008, if your device is listed like, then you did boot correctly to EDL mode. Now, it could be an issue with the tool, with the cable, or even, with your device, a device seriously bricked, although, always boot to EDL, in a "dead" brick, it´s unresponsive, and images can´t be loaded to it. For the next show some SS.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
here you go
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
Did you trying using an EDL cable?
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
i dont have one or couldnt prepare one. so i gave the phone at nearby servicecenter
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
What is it? This way your device is recognized as QDLoader 9008? well, unfortunately it´s hard to help this way, good luck.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
sorry i thought you asked for what is being shown on the phone's screen. on the unbrick tool only that which i showed a couple messages above is being shown. I ddidnt go for mod cable or thedevice didnt get recognised in debug 9008 mode, so i gave the phone at SC.
[Nothing Phone 1] ot_inc:
This cable is recognized by the EDL simply by plugging it in.
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
I think your device only went to ReadDump mode, it happens when the RAM is exceeded, and can´t process correctly the tasks, a simple reboot sometimes fix it. Of course, in the SC probably they tell you, it´s an issue with the motherboard. Just out of curiosity, kindly, let us know the end of the story.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
I always feared this. That the sc guys say its a MB issue.

If they say so, i am going to bring it back and not going to do any with it, unless somebody from the community helps figure out the issue. And yeah i ll keep it posted.

Also this is how it happened.

I was on 1.5.2 (BL Locked)
BL Unlocked. Flashed PA.
PA started behaving strange after a month's usage.
Went back to 1.1.3(BL Locked)
All was fine until those bugs annoyed me
System Update kept failing with error 20.
I remembered something about having the same firmware in both slots (current: b)
so Unlocked BL again.
Flashed 1.1.3 on b
swithced to slot a, and kaboom!

Debug:

1. Tried EDL mode recovery.

2. AFter installing Qualcomm drivers, device got recognised in 900E mode but not the 9008 debug mode.

3. Couldnt go for Mod Cable, so i felt like giving it at SC where they would have access to these.

Update from SC:

Checked for liquid Damage, none found. (Opened back and peeled off hte black sheets)

THeir network was **** so couldnt download QFIL package is the last response.
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
When your device is detected in this mode, this means that you (only) have to update the drivers, to get QDLoader 9008, a brief explanation, Qualcomm drivers contains a huge variety of modes, when your device is detected under a Port COM, this means that also it´ll support the huge variety of modes that Qualcomm drivers contains, suppose that Qualcomm contained 50 modes, you shouldn´t expect that your device have 50 ways to boot to those modes, no, under Port COM, your device can detect those 50 modes that Qualcomm drivers contains, it´s only that the drivers have to be updated (on the go), to run properly, in this specific mode you need; QHUSB-9008.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
Sorry for my innocence or ignorance in these matters, but may i know what you mean by updating the drivers on the go to debug 9008 mode?

Because i tried something similar on my windows system. I have manually updated the driver to Debug 9008 mode. And the flash tool didnt work. Someone said it should be with a mod USB C - A cable.
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
I said so because, OP said so.

Also, I have never seen someone reporting that the driver change procedure actually work.
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
Fortunately I kept the procedure from my last session flashing on a Qualcomm device, it´s in Spanish, but the pictures are self explanatory.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
I have done exactly this. Then used this QFIL package here (1.1.7) , but then it failed. What did you do beyond this?
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
Now I´m very confused, if you said in your previous post to that last; "...but may i know what you mean by updating the drivers on the go to debug 9008 mode?" why you now are saying "...I have done exactly this"

And just a clarification, it´s not debug mode, this is a different thing.

If you are absolutely sure (I would ask for pictures( that your device was in 9008 QDLoader, then the issue is from QFIL., if this was the case, then you should need a patched firehose file.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
Sorry to break it to you again, but apologies for the miscommunication.

I have already givne in the phone at SC, and i have received a call last night from the SC saying they fixed the phone. I cant give you anymore pictures than the one i alreayd put.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
I got the device back flashed with nos1.1.8
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
Good to know.
[Nothing Phone 1] justjest:
Thank you SO much! I successfully brought my phone back from being a fancy paperweight.

I was lucky and didn't need a cable for this (case 1). Flashed it according to instructions, waited for a bit... Viola! It booted up! ...To a flashing battery indicator. The battery died while it sat and collected dust. After about 5 minutes, it started up just fine and now I have a perfectly fine phone! I thought I was gonna have to service it again and get a new one. I am SO happy!
[Nothing Phone 1] maverixz:
I did what you said after I did the ubrick process by going into recovery and I wiped data/factory reset but it just went right back to Fastboot when i tried to reboot the system.
[Nothing Phone 1] TheNewHEROBRINE:
On what fastboot slot are you currently? A or B?
[Nothing Phone 1] ayed78:
how to solve this issue?
[Nothing Phone 1] Ost268:
Is it possible to flash a Samsung phone with this program?
[Nothing Phone 1] amsmaciel:
Hi, Can anyone help me with this issue here?

My device is Alcatel Idol 3 (6039J)

Waiting for EDL Device, Please Connect in EDL Mod

Connecting to Device: OKAY

Sending Loader: 23:14:36: ERROR: function: sahara_rx_data:276 Unable to read packet header. Only read 0 bytes.

23:14:36: ERROR: function: sahara_main:982 Sahara protocol error

23:14:36: ERROR: function: main:320 Uploading Image using Sahara protocol failed

Erasing FRP: 23:14:38: {ERROR: Option 'tool' does not begin with --

ERROR: Could not append to 'port_trace.txt'
[Nothing Phone 1] Henke J:
Thanks for this guide, revived my 2 week old phone!
[Nothing Phone 1] essojay:
Can this method be used to downgrade from Android 14? Or is there another way to downgrade from Android 14.

Thanks
[Nothing Phone 1] SubwayChamp:
Using this method you can install anything that it is for it.
[Nothing Phone 1] dhruvaz:
I wish you can make this tool so that you can choose the flash file... I've google pixel in EDL mode and I want to flash the OTA file but cant :(
[Nothing Phone 1] Koladweep:
Looks serviceable. Don't throw it away.
[S740, S743 General] andre3000ob:
hey i have a problem with my display , when i close the keypad and when i want to use the land again they is only a black screen.