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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
Hello @JavaSabr! AGC works very well, but I have a question:

Objects in the center of the photos are extremely clear, but the objects in the corners are blurry when compared with LMC. Any advice for me?

Thank you!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
Hello , I also have the same feelings , overall I think LMC V13 java much better than AGC 9.1 , I think there is a little more detail and better sharpness . the only downside of LMC , it is slower to take HDR++ pictures .
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Both parts are out of DoF, but LMC just has more syntactic sharp over this
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
They answers my question! Thanks very very much! 👍

Also, there is only I've case where I haven't tried the gcam: when taking pictures of people in a dinner, indoors.

I suppose that the sport profile and no HDR is the fastest?

(I don't worry so much about noise. I've seen that RAW files are compatible with Lightroom new noise reduction)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
LMC is probably easier to use, as it seems to adapt to most situations. Even at night, without night mode, it adapts and gives good and easy result. It just works everytime (and much better than the stock). Have you noticed any other difference? The toggle at the top to boost the brightness is cool, too, especially when you want to compare with the stock camera.

What I love about AGC, however, is the RAW files it makes. I've realized that they were compatible with the new Lightroom noise reduction tool. Not that is so necessary with the gcam, but it's surprising, as Samsung RAW files aren't compatible.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
Hello! So do you have both on your phone as well? I kept the two ones, as they both allowed me to take better pictures that don't need to be edited.

Question: do you use the gcam in situation where people move and you have to take quick shots? I haven't tested it yet in these scenarios (like a dinner), but i saw that the sport mode seems to perform very well.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
LMC is very close to what you have in my MaxQ-LDR profile, but in AGC you have alternative profiles if you need :) and my LMC config doesn't have true HDR at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] xwonic:
Using your setup (with soft profile, Auto-NS) i achieve a much better picture then Stock Nightmode

The picture is also larger at 8160x6120 instead of 4000x3000 and no color banding:)

Your profile hasn't disappointed yet.

Juxtapose Slide-preview​
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] John_wick181:
on the website agc 9.2 is available but i see no configs for it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
because it's still too raw for usage
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
In general, I use LMC for daytime photos because it has more details and this is important to me and less noise.. AGC is similar, but in LMC there are more details, I use AGC for sports mode without HDR, for night photos, astro photos, Mazar x3 configuration, coming back for lmc x3 and x10 lenses have more natural colors and sharpness than agc.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GoJo ^^:
Question to people who tested both LMC/AGC a lot : which is best for which scenario (day/night/astro/macro/etc)?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Any sample? Idk where LMC has more details than AGC :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] anaschillin:
Hi, sorry I am having a difficult time understanding this forums. Is the GCAM fully functioning now? And which one is the best one to try out?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
But if I have true HDR because of you, that means I have to buy a S24 Ultra to view the HDR photos in the gallery 😅😂🤣!

And I can't buy a S24 Ultra until you make a config for it 😂.

No, seriously, the results are just incredible...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I have s24u and x1 doesn't work on any gcam....
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Has been fully functioning since the first day of commercialization.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
Hello, I will have a moment and make a comparison of LMC HDR++ and Agc Maxldr, it is best seen on signs or inscriptions, a photo taken of a small inscription from two or three meters, on LMC you can see the signs perfectly, but on Agc unfortunately not.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
I can help a little bit! Yes, not only they are functioning, but they are great.

It's important to follow carefully the instructions on the first page of this forum.

Basically, what you have to know is that there are several versions of gcam, like AGC, MGC, LMC, etc.

And for these gcams, there are several configs, that bring to correct settings to the camera so it works correctly. 😊
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
do you compare lmc hdr++ with a simple photo mode from AGC or night sight?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
I see a very tiny difference, but only on some parts of the photo. Not enough to choose one over the other (it's already crazy that we can zoom that much on a 12mp photo!)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
Porównuja zwykle Lmc i regularne agc

Mod translation: They usually compare Lmc and regular agc
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
And I suppose that you don't have access to the 50mp of the 5x... So the digital crops will be difficult?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I already compared raw 50mp from 5x with my raw from x10 and I can say that 50mp will not help even if gcam can use it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
it's not the answer :), do you compare lmc hdr++ with just a photo mode from AGC? because hdr++ it's like night mode and you should compare it with night mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
Tak, LMC hdr + + / Agc hdr + +
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
So no s24 ultra for me 🤷. Not my fault. Samsung's fault.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
I've used LMC for several months, now I'm on AGC, and frankly, I find them excellent both in low-light and in daylight. Extremely consistent, and always better than the stock camera.

I haven't done macro and astro, though
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
Someone posted that about the S24 Ultra. I wonder if it's not too ugly to be true 😅
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] darwislim:
oh lol that photo was at a mall near my place in Jakarta
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] BoneXDA:
@JavaSabr where can I personally increase or decrease 1) global sharpness for processing (all lenses) or preferably 2) individual sharpness per lens if possible?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] woffu22:
That sounds really frustrating belonging on s24 ultra. Do you see any chance to get a good working gram on s24u ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] chetszot:
If S24 Series have problems with GCam, then I am truly concerned if One UI 6.1 update we are to get in the near future will not bring this "feature" to S23 series as well. This would be b**ch move from Samsung, but wouldn't surprise me given that they have clearly messed something with S24 already.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Have uploaded v34 release for ultra:

Working GCAM for S23 Ultra

EDIT: I RECOMMEND FOLLOWING THIS POST TO INSTALL WORKING GCAM LMC version (remind to enable HDR++) Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88407193 AGC 9.1 Post in thread...

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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
You can look at the settings -> lense settings -> <lense> - Image procssing -> <profile> -> Polysharp settings
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GoJo ^^:
I'm not able to get nice result in astro, no matter which gcam.. same for the others? First device I see this on..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
I've never tried. I hope someone can answer that question?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
I hope it's a hardware limitation, and not software.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Space_Bear:
Hey can we try to keep this thread free of S24 discussion please?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] cpt000:
java, you dont want to start a CLEAN thread on that. !

I'm a 2011 old user that got his account reseted because of this insane control on this forum !

pissed I help so much in dev on many devices, back to HTC, hopefully they are not real cops in real life !

try to start a new thread, and hopefully the members will support your reason and work

I know you tired and get merged, but cmon, mod need good sense and chillax
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Androidnoob1961:
Firstly, thanks to all the hard work being put into this. AGC9.1 v1 javasbrv32 here, has anyone else noticed quite a bit of blur from moving subjects? Even from people walking in the background?

Also, I'm seeing a lot more development happening for AGC when compared to LMC, is LMC outdated or still comparable?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Darkknight CSC:
hey java thanks for awesome work. I just want know is it possible to increase the exposure little. I feel photo’s are under exposed.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] kbarni:
Can you please maintain the S23/S23+ versions, too?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
I do it, I have updated v33 for AGC 8.8 for base s23
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] lasha117:
i have a problem, i install gcam and after some days i found that ifs uninstalled itself
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
You are probably using a wrong package (e.g. ruler), and so it gets overwritten by some app updates from the galaxy store.

Use aweme for instance
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] lasha117:
yes i was using that version, wich one i must use? on s23 ultra
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] GoJo ^^:
Somebody can legend what ALL icons means? Only few described on LMC/AGC post.. For example, in LMC night mode, there are 2 more buttons, one with stars, one with tipped pen. Stars button looks like astro mode.. But there's already a button for that in gcam menu.. Another thing, again LMC: in astro mode, why after countdown (only 16sec?!) ends, it doesn't stop by itself and i need to manually push stop button..?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
why doesn't the portrait in AGC work? I mean, when I take a photo on a portrait profile, it turns out to be a regular photo.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] BoneXDA:
You've been very helpful @JavaSabr . Do you take donations?

I'm sticking with Java V20 Sharp for now as natural ZLS outputs incredible amount of natural details across all cameras, just with lower dynamic range than HDR-NS. This is true even in Natural ZLS with Night Mode. Where I can I increase dynamic range for Natural ZLS? Perhaps add wider exposure range or more shots taken, I do not know the answer just guessing. Thanks again.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
you can't, ZSL supports HDR only on pixel devices
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
Hello , recently I have been playing with Raw files I noticed that when we load a Raw file into Lightrom or any other program , it raises the Tint slider terribly to the right , in general the Raw file is of poor quality and it is already better lightly processed Jpg .
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Steerpike58:
Need help understanding 'HDR' with AGC8.8v8, v33 on my S23+.

I took 5 test shots in succession of an outdoor scene with high contrast. 2 with 'stock', 3 with AGC 8.8v8 v33.

For the two Stock (Samsung) versions, I had HDR off and HDR on. With HDR off, the shadows were way too dark, and the sky was blown out. With HDR on, the shadows were good, and the sky was good - but there was an overall 'overdone' flavor to the image, which is why I'm looking to AGC as an alternative.

For the three AGC versions, I had HDR off, on, ++. I cannot see any difference between all three shots; they sit, exposure-wise, between the two stock Samsung versions, and look pretty good - so that's good! But why does HDR off/on/++ make absolutely no difference in this shot? I've done some poorly lit indoor tests, and HDR DOES help boost shadow detail with AGC, but when outdoor, it seems nothing happens. Is this expected? Note I'm using the MaxQ-HDR config.

Stock:

AGC:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Because it does not work in AGC, where mainly ZSL is used. If you would like to control HDR over the mentioned off/HDR/HDR++ go for LMC instead (which is my GCAM of choice).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Steerpike58:
Well that's funny, because I started with LMC and when I asked why HDR made no difference there, JavaSabr said HDR didn't work in LMC and I needed to use AGC! I would also note that when I choose HDR++, the picture taking process is very slow, suggesting multiple frames are being used.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
I use

Well, he knows better so that might be true with newer versions of LMC. I im on LMC17_s23u_V13 from JavaSabr , with my small adjustments and Im very happy with results. Don't see any point of changing it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Steerpike58:
I just checked; I have LMC8.4 (lmc17_s23_v13) (on my S23+). I just took three shots out the window (HDR off/on/enhanced) and they appear visually identical! It's been a while since I last looked at LMC, and I experimented with a lot of settings before giving up - so I don't know what 'state' it's in. I also tried v12 and v13.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Make sure that you have on top selected that cog wheel on the top and only PRO out of three on the left.

And the in settings -> Processing functions -> Number of frames in stitching -> HDR+ frames you can select how many frames in HDR++ per lens you would like to use.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] skoglundsimon99:
Could anyone recommend a package for me to try? I tried a LMC 17 package with a few xml files (soft, medium and sharp). But I found the Samsung camera app to capture more details and brighten up dark areas a little better.

Does the LMC16 act differently? What about AGC?

S23 Ultra
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Can you give one example of when the Samsung camera app captures more details? I have tried many times after each camera update and that wasn't the case for me.

For me, Samsung may seem more detailed as it applies so much sharpening and clarity, but LMC was always more detailed no matter of version and XML.

And remember about one thing - use whatever works for you better. Don't force yourself to use GCAM if you don't see any benefits in using it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] anaschillin:
What I meant by this is... which version is most compatible with s23 ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] anaschillin:
Thanks so there is not a recommended working versions and config?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Both in the first post works like a charm if you follow instructions
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Any mention in this thread? But what do you mean by fully functional? Do you mean access to 50/200Mpix? Then no and will never be, because Samsung does not provide API for that. Same with some video functionalities.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] anaschillin:
Thanks yes, this is what I mean. Full open access to all cameras and sensors. I palyed with Gcam a long time ago and it was okayish on my note 9.. but I know tons of development has gone into it and improvements over the years.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
It has, but not everything is up to the application itself. It can utilize only what is available via API. And in the case of Samsung, some of the features are left for Samsung's apps. But nevertheless, I did find GCAM much, much better for photos than both stock camera apps or Expert Raw. 50 or 200 are good only in very, very good light situations.

You can see my details comparison between 12,50 mpix from the stock app, 50 mpix from expert raw, and 12 mpix from GCAM here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/major-updat...-improves-camera.4570457/page-5#post-88386541 . I do not find in like 95% any use of 50/200 mpix. Everything from this post is still valid, did not find any progress in Samsung processing either in fine details, handling HDR-related halos, smugging details when merging multiple frames, or pre-applying too much processing in ExpertRAW (ironically) RAWs that cannot be undone.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
It's wrong, when you need max HDR in AGC just to use night sight mode, no need to use LMC at all
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
on base s23/s23+ x1 doesn't support HDR on any gcam, thanks for samsung :) other all lenses have true HDR support.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
But still you cannot control hdr there by hdr/hdr+.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
you can but you should not touch it, no ANY reason to touch it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
Can someone tell me why the raw RAW file , has little information ? It is impossible to process it ... Much better raw is from samsung pro mode camera .
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
if you open gcam raw in LR you will see that it contains all information.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
To be honest, I have 3000+ raws from gcam in lr and they are all great. Can you please provide some printscreens ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
IDK, for me in HDR+ it is easier to control how many frames you want to merge, so I prefer GCAms that offer that. And that's why I stick with older LMC and config, as it is best for me.. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
where in LMC you can easily control it? only for hdre, not hdr+ and the main question why do you need it? in AGC you have balaned/maxq profiles, where balanced uses 8-11 frames, maxq - 30, I don't see any reason to have values between
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
processing functions -> number of frames in stitching

And if you go for older LMC, you have that directly on the screen when using HDR++.

And i use different values per lens, as in Ultrawide I prefer to have more than in the main one, as the sensor is just not that good.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
in such case, I don't see why it's easier than changing frame settings in AGC
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
In general I notice that Tint is at max always in AGC , pro mode and Gcam java v13 , it is similar to samsung , another issue , often after taking a raw file , it has 1mpx and should have 12mpx
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
I did not have 1 Mpix issue yet, so it is something strange, Are you sure that you have the profile correctly loaded in GCAM? Here you have and example of RAW from UW from my last trip to Jordan. Full res, plenty of details in recovered parts.

But as I have stated few posts earlier, I am using LMC. For some reason I do not like AGC.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
where do you see that raw file has 1 mpx? in gallerry? gallery is not for raw at all
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
Agree, the gallery is reporting not RAW size, but embedded preview size. RAW itself has the correct size.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
czy używasz surowca z lmc lub agc? ponieważ w agc kolor Tint w programie lightrom, w prawo do maksimum za każdym razem, gdy zdjęcie jest ładowane, do 1mpx pokazuje w galerii Samsung

***Translation***

do you use raw material from lmc or agc? because in agc Tint color in lightrom, right to max every time photo is loaded, to 1mpx shows in Samsung gallery
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
just ignore it, gallery cannot show this info correctly
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
As I stated, LMC. And Samsung gallery app is only showing size of the preview embedded in the RAW file, not file itself, so do not look it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ajarosz:
And one more thing about RAWs from GCAM. On my last wedding, I had my 14-24 in service, so did not have wide lens. But had my s23 U with me. Sooo I took few shots.

Left, Sony A73 with Samyang 24/1.8. Right, S23 Ultra in RAW from GCAM. Processed with same LR preset with few tweaks for Samsung. :)

In the final one, I have toned down blues on the dress as well, but here is an example, of how good RAWs from S23U can be.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] V0latyle:
@Baker35 As a reminder, please use English on XDA:

We have already translated several of your posts. Please post in English or provide an English translation, or your posts will be deleted.

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Baker35:
in lmc the raw raw file is much better than agc, in lmc the tint color is normal and in agc the tint color is maximum, I compared the same photo in lmc and agc, and the tint color in agc is always maximum.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
Hello!

I've using gcams for a while now, and AGC more recently (with @JavaSabr configs👌)

The results are always much better than the stock. However, I'm not sure I understand at 100% the different HDR modes. Here are a few questions; can someone tell me if I understand things correctly? (Unless there is a detailed guide for AGC?) It would be extremely appreciated.

1) ZSL allows you to take instant shots. Is it used both with regular HDR+ and HDRnet? (Or only HDRnet?)

2) From what I've understood, the HDRnet uses frames that it takes before you press the shutter button, while the regular HDR+ captures frames when you capture the photo. Is that correct? And does one of the two give better results?

3) Night mode and HDR enhanced can be used if there isn't enough light or if you need a wider dynamic range. Do they both use HDRE? Do they work exactly the same?

4) Does ZSL work with every profiles, even the HDR-maxQ? Or should I use HDRE with this profile?

5) Finally, about balanced profiles and MaxQ profiles: I assumed that maxQ profiles capture merges more frames than balanced profiles. Is that correct?

*I apologize in advance if I'm asking questions that have already been asked. I've really tried searching these infos in this forum and on the Telegram group. It helped, but I want to be sure I use AGC to its full extend. (Especially when I'm trying the configs!)*
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
On non-pixel devices HDRNet is the same as HDR+

Both modes are the same and make frames non-stop to buffer before pressing the button

HDRe is a deprecated thing, just use night sight when you need more dynamic range or you are in low light.

it works for all profiles in my config

yes, balanced profiles are usually about 8-11 frames, maxq - 30, astro - 45
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JavaSabr:
Forgot to upload my v35 release:

Working GCAM for S23 Ultra

EDIT: I RECOMMEND FOLLOWING THIS POST TO INSTALL WORKING GCAM LMC version (remind to enable HDR++) Post in thread 'Working GCAM for S23 Ultra' https://xdaforums.com/t/working-gcam-for-s23-ultra.4550019/post-88407193 AGC 9.1 Post in thread...

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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
Thank you so so much 👍👌 I know that people often ask the same questions, but I really wanted to know. Now I'm happy 😁
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Steerpike58:
So as an S23+ user, can I get any 'HDR-like' processing with AGC? Below, I am quoting you talking about AGC with 'balanced' and 'MaxQ' profiles, using 8-11 frames, or 30 frames. Are these profiles using multiple frames on my S23+, and if so, what is that processing if not HDR?

What I'm noticing is this - stock Samsung without HDR is awful, with blown highlights and dark shadows, and stock Samsung WITH HDR is simply too 'colorful'/unnatural. But when I use AGC, it seems to be finding a decent 'middle ground' between the two Samsung results. So AGC is doing 'something' clever to vastly improve upon the Stock Samsung 'non-HDR' mode, and yields results close to (but not as extreme as) the Samsung HDR mode. But if AGC can't do HDR with the S23+ 1.0x lens, what 'IS' it doing to achieve this much better result?

What I'm looking for is a way to 'fine tune' the AGC result slightly. I was taking three shots per scene (HDR off/on/enhanced) but you've explained how that makes no difference (and I can see it makes no difference). So what parameters / settings / profiles / configs can I try / tweak in order to make subtle variations on what I'm seeing with AGC?

Quoting for reference:
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gcamiscool:
The gcam AGC 9.1 + the latest config of javasabr (v36) works very well. I find it extremely reliable, and this one is able to produce true HDR files. I would definitely start with that one.

Normally, the installation should work well if you follow the steps at the 1st page of this forum. If there is anything, you can ask me (or somebody else will answer if I can't!).