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[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
You do not need password to delete something from archive
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Nice. I have not setup mine yet. Waiting on the frame for my RAV4. However I checked it out at home with a 12V charger. Some pics here :
[FYT Android Head Units] kemdau:
I ordered one 7870 YIN MCU 12.9in 1920x1200 but my car fit only 9.5in so I changed screen to 9.5 2000x1200 and of course install 6318lcdconfig.cfg for 2000x1200.

However the screen rotate -90 degre, and I changed the line

ro.sf.swrotation=with different value 0, 90,180,270 and flash it and screen have no change. Anyone can help or share to me your config.txt for 2000x1200 screen ?
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
For me, there were two lcd driver files when I replaced the screen, the normal one amd the rotated one. It seems that you installed the second one. What is your display?
[FYT Android Head Units] kemdau:
My display 12.9 is L10P8-MIPI-YT129IBLXL001-A_1200X1920 and 9.5in is L8-MIPI-WD9528HM30TA_B0_B01_1200x2000. Only 12.9 is normal.
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
This is the driver zip file for 7870. I hope you can find the correct one.
[FYT Android Head Units] kemdau:
Thanks a lot, It's ok now
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
There two drivers for your wd9528hm30ta in the zip file, the normal one and a 90° rotated one in the folder. I don't know which one works but they are different.
[FYT Android Head Units] kemdau:
Thanks a lot, everything is ok now
[FYT Android Head Units] s14kouki:
Quick update, I got mine delivered by DHL this week, I've just been testing it on the bench. So far looks like a well refined piece of kit.

2 things I can't figure out though and hopefully you may have:

I don't know the Factory passcode - I've tried the suggested 3368 and 8888 as advised by Navifly seller with no luck.

I can't seem to get split screen to function, I managed to figure out the setting to enable the Icon in the navibar but when I press it does nothing.

Have you had any luck with the above?
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
1. Developer settings password is : 7870, not sure what you meant by factory passcode.

2. If you are referring to PIP try adding app manager as one of the widgets on the launcher, bind the apps to the widget. And under Home -> PIP select those apps as 1,2,3 which you bind to the launcher.
[FYT Android Head Units] andyching168:
How to pair Bluetooth keyboard or mouse on it?

I can see the Bluetooth remote on my iPhone

But the “Bluetooth” App only shows all phones it’ve founded

And there are no Bluetooth option in settings app
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
I wasn't able to get bluetooth keyboard working. Also unable get my bluetooth Elm32 OBD2 interface working.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Hi guys, can anyone with the 360 confirm the 360 mode working correctly?

Also are there any issues with android auto?

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and getting an M7 plus
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Have you checked the Dudu7 ?
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
I'm all ears, is that one better? Got a link?
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Check PM. Telegram links are not allowed. If youvscroll through some previous pages you will see references. And There is also a thread regarding D7

New car-focused Unisoc chipsets?

Not sure how realistic these announcements are vs "marketing power-point based products", but it seems UNISOC has been announcing at Barcelona MWC more focus on Auto Chipsets. In particular from their Twitter account: Also, one outlet...

xdaforums.com
[FYT Android Head Units] therealkimpok:
Yes I can confirm 360 camera works on 7870.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Does it support 1080p cameras or 720p?

I read that there are 2 versions of the 360 chip and they differ in resolution.

Also what cameras did you get and how does it perform during the night?
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
FYT has always been limited to 720p due to the ADNA 360 chip used while other platforms like topway have supported 1080p for some time.

Newer 7870 devices have an ADNA1 chip that supports 1080p. It's been confirmed if you have this chip it supports 1080p 360 cameras.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
What is the best way to check if it's ADNA1 when ordering? Best to ask the seller or?

Off topic: what's the main reason for FYT being preferred over Topway, or at least that's impression?
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Not sure. Ask the seller if 360 supports 1080p?

I'm curious if the new ADNA1 chip gives 1080p support on 7862 devices.

On 7862 it's partly because of better modding options. More flexibility with firmware.

Android 13 on 7870 is more locked down.

Seller choice is much better on FYT in my opinion.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Thanks for the quick reply.

I'm just in the market for a fast device with 360 camera support, good screen, android auto and a few apps.

7870 seems like the obvious choice because of the processing power.

The DuduOS device's haven't yet made it to AliExpress and the mainstream, that I'm also considering.
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
the Dudu launcher is, pardon the pun, a steaming pile of doo-doo. It's a half-finished project designed by a bunch of ADD-riddled engineers. I'll be flashing mine over to the regular 7870 FYT firmware as soon as there's a new enough one released to pass the downgrade checking of the updater.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Fair enough, and the regular 7870 fyt firmwares are compatible with each other?

Or is there just one firmware to rule them all?

I was eyeing the IYING 7870, pardon the pun. :)
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
I'm only aware of the Iying and Mekede 7870 firmware so far, and those are cross-compatible AFAIK
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
The IYING will take Mekede firmware but not quite vice versa. Mekede lock many of their apps to their own MCU type now.

You said on another post you had an M7 Plus with DuduOS.

Is your unit literally an M7 Plus with DuduOS or is it a Dudu7 (Does it have SMA or Fakra connectors on the rear)?

The Dudu device has a custom MCU which might complicate things.
[FYT Android Head Units] Clandaries:
There is a seller named Caska. But i don't know where to download their firmware.

It looks different to Iying.
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
I have one of each - M7Plus (880) and Dudu7 (888)
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Sorry don't think my question was clear. You said on another thread...

Do you actually have an M7 Plus (880) with DuduOS, or were you referring to the Dudu7 (888) with DuduOS?
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
I don't know how to be more clear, I have one of each unit
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Clear as mud to me 😂

I even quoted your post. You said you had an M7 Plus with DuduOS.

The M7 Plus is available on YL880 only.

I wasn't asking what 7870 devices you had.

I was simply asking if you really had an M7 Plus (YL880) running DuduOS, as that would be a 1st.

Never mind.
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
no, the 880 is running the standard FYT/Mekede software stack.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Simple misunderstanding then 👍🏻

When you said you had an M7 Plus with DuduOS you were referring to the Dudu7.

I thought you literally meant the M7 Plus (YL880) had DuduOS.

Personally I prefer the YL888 hardware but I'm still unsure about the DuduOS firmware.

I've seen a post claim Mekede were going to offer M7 Plus users the ability to change firmware to DuduOS.

At the same time I've seen a few posts saying the developers will only make DuduOS compatible with YL888 and not YL880.

You never know with Mekede. They now seem to be changing the MS range to the same 3D firmware seen on the M6 Pro devices (the same MS devices that Mekede used to claim wasn't compatible with the 3D firmware).
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
definitely prefer the YL888, but DuduOS is straight up garbage. It's incoherent, half-baked, and has no vision as to what it's trying to do other than provide lots of sparkly widgets which are mostly useless. It offends me as a UX engineer.
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
Apart of the „garbage” part I couldn’t agree more. But it’s the best what’s available in the market imho.

What is true, they seem to forget what is the device used for (at least in Europe). Instead of refining the real usability, they add tons of shortcuts, duplicated widgets and this silly wallpaper mode. Because it is important to stare at your unit while driving.

Settings are the big mess (have also wrong english translation) with a lot of functions which you don’t know what they actually do (and most users won’t touch them at all), radio app is basic af and even won’t display RDS. I also don’t believe that mic handling or other IMPORTANT bugs are handled.

But hey, let’s add a gesture which will

show more shortcuts, convenient as hell.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
Speaking of mic handling, I turned off my external mic. It's mounted behind my steering wheel, on the dashboard, and picks up all the vibration from the engine. Way too noisy when actually driving. The built in mic isn't so sensitive, so I have to raise my voice a little to be heard, but it also doesn't pick up as much road noise.
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
Well, Mekede did claim the possiblity of M7 models getting Dudu OS officially.

(This is the source, from their youtube video.)

But what I heard from @gordgelin, the developers said they don't have plans for that. I think it's probably best to consider them incompatible until further announcement.
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
yes, DuDu OS is only for DuDu devices, but since mekede is a partner of dudu this might be exclusion, or not )
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Pardon my ignorance for the following question:

If the motherboard is the same apart from the CPU between 7870 and 7862: is it theoretically possible to flash 7862 ROMs to 7870 but maybe only replace the kernel?

I know this is a simplistic view, but could something like that work in theory?
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
very short answer is NO, that is not how it works and it is not the same
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
Something that isn't mentioned in the specs anywhere I've seen and something I haven't seen mentioned is the video input support on the USB-C port.

I knew it did usb-c to HDMI out, but I had no idea it supported DP-ALT video IN. That's a nice bonus.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Thanks for confirming it, I was thinking it might because of usb 3
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
Wał Miedzeszyński.m4a

drive.google.com

here you can check the sound from the ext. mic perfomed at highway (ca. 140km/h). I used the same mic as I have used with m6 pro. Mic located under the hood, near to the reverse mirror.

Not great not terrible. They claim that there’s digital noise reduction and it seems to be true. I also did real phone call with my girl and she understood every my word without any issue.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I know that these 7870 units are currently not modifable, but did anyone already try with "ADB AppControl" (here and here)?

Edit: Of course you still can't remove apps from the system or product partition, but it might give you some tweaking options to at least disable apps.
[FYT Android Head Units] Matt Devo:
haven't tried that, you can remove apks from AllAppUpdate13.bin and reflash, so that helps
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Can you? I thought that the AllAppUpdate13.bin was signed and that you can open it if you first crack the password, but you cannot resign it.

Or did you find out how?

Edit: Sorry. You can indeed remove apps from the zip file, but not add.

Secondly: The Google wellbeing app is installed in the product partition which is in the 6318_1. You can't change that and I personally would want to remove it, or disable it.
[FYT Android Head Units] gordgelin:
-- removed
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I removed the touch button app, media player app, voice control, radio and launcher from AllAppUpdate13.bin.

As a launcher I use FCC, which I installed before deleting the original Laucher. I don't need analog radio because I use DAB-Z.

The Google Wellbeing app cannot be uninstalled or deactivated, I was only able to revoke all rights.

I'm very happy with the way the unit works at the moment, especially the start after about 5 seconds.
[FYT Android Head Units] tinOFbeer:
Strange thing, the dudu units should have a different amplifier chip.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
They all make the same claims and even then counterfeit, inferior binning or relabeled parts can be used. Dudu is not a manufacturer of these FYT units either and the ROHS compliance tick is dubious too. These practices go way back.
[FYT Android Head Units] tinOFbeer:
If it is a YL888 board, then the label must be wrong, you cannot use the 7851 chip instead of the 7803 - different number of pins, I2C bus control, etc.
[FYT Android Head Units] j0hn83:
It's an error on the box. I opened mine at the time and checked. Contains the correct TDA7803.
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
this is not the final box. you have just received it in M7 box. M7 has 7851 amplifier inside
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
What is a final box.
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
The one which they will send device in once it will be available to buy on Ali. This one is a temporary box for orders via wechat.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Have to ask - how do you know this, is this what the seller has said?
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
I’m in the telegram (mostly russian-spoken) group for beta testing purposes. I have seen a poll about box design for those Dudu devices and 3 choices were proposed. The box is not ready though.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Is that on IYING or Mekede firmware? So 3rd party launchers work without issues?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
Since I'm a game child, I started with the original firmware from Mekede and have now ended up on the latest firmware from IYING 03/11/2024 because it was the latest. The FCC Launcher works without any problems, but I can't say whether other launchers also work. As I said, I also deleted the original launcher after the FCC was set up.

This is probably dangerous and you should only do this if you know what you are doing. The updatecfg can only contain test so that the settings are not deleted.
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Was it necessary to delete the stock launcher?

Is there a way to remove the car icon from the stock launcher?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
For security I use the Fully Single App Kiosk and when deactivating the Single App it was useful to delete the standard launcher because it was opened as. Now, after deactivating the Fully Single App Kiosk, my FCC Launcher starts automatically, as it should.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
This kiosk mode: Does it really completely block your unit? Do you have buttons on the side or bottom of your screen and when you press Home or Back, does it block those keys? Or do you have a unit without buttons?
[FYT Android Head Units] sreckoxda:
Wait did I understand correctly that kiosk mode locks you into 1 app? So just the launcher?

I must have misunderstood kiosk
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I have a device without hardware buttons and it blocks everything I want. I only release the apps in the white list that I want to start without deactivating the Fully Single app.

I entered the FCC Launcher as the single app.

The app costs 7.90€ for one device and is worth the money.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
I enter the launcher as a single app and it works from everywhere.

I have DAB-Z, Google Maps, Blitzer Pro and the Player Pro media player in the white list, everything else is blocked.

I can then access the apps in the white list via Laucher.

Edit: Fully Single App Kiosk
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I know what a Kiosk app does. I can compile it myself (I still have the "device admin" code in my FET app). It is well described on the internet and in example github repositories.

In my case I would create a kiosk apk with an independent activity being a black screen with a clock (or so).

The point is that every lockscreen apk or kiosk apk does not work as long as the unit has buttons. The buttons are "wired" into the MCU and then into the com.syu.ms, not into "default Android".

That is why wanted to know how it worked on your unit.

But as you have a "button less" unit, it is not representative for the general working of units with buttons.

Anyway, thanks for your responses :)
[FYT Android Head Units] Bettman66:
Then just test the app, they advertise that the trial has full functionality.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
I thought of that of course ;) but as it is closed-source it doesn't mean I know what it does.
[FYT Android Head Units] therealkimpok:
Hi. I am very new in this Android player. But I do have some experience in installing custom rom and reverting back to stock rom for Android smartphone.

My question is how do I get the stock rom for 7870 player? My unit is non-branded 12GB RAM.
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
The latest firmware for 7870 head units. The download link is from my onedrive.

KD公版_7870_2000x1200_国外_20240318.zip

I tried the system file only, not the entire file. The app version shows 2024-03-18, and the system core is 2024-03-27. No problem so far.
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
Yep, here's the one I have in hand right now
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
It's been two weeks since I installed the M7 Plus on my car and there are definitely some issues that need to be addressed. Firstly, the latest Mekede firmware cannot display the air conditioner pop-up window in Chevrolet but I'm not sure about other cars. This pop-up works well on IYING firmware though.

Second, when changing gears, the rear image turns black. But in the camera app, the rear view appears normally in the same situation.
[FYT Android Head Units] maxiauer:
For problem #1: Did you also change the CAN-BUS decoder with the unit? In some cases those Can-Bus decoders are interchangeable, in other cases they are not.

For problem #2: Sorry, I do not understand the issue. The unit should automatically enable the rear-camera when going in reverse and go back to the "normal" display when you shift out of reverse. Is that not the case? Is it not detecting the reverse?

Also, just out of curiosity, is the seller providing any help with those issues, or they're ignoring you?
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
1. When I enter the Touch Assistant app, it shows the control for air conditioner and all funtions work well, which means that it isn't the problem with canbus. It's the pop-up on the below that does not show when I control the panel, but it should be showing like 7862 devices.

2. Like you said, it automatically enables the rear-camera when going in reverse and goes back to the "normal" display. However, the rear-view screen is showing black at that situation. And like other head units, when the device cold-boots, it shows the boot logo and animation. I changed the gear to reverse to see camera during the boot animation and rear view is shown on the display without any problems. I think the current system firmware has a problem in showing front/rear-view after it fully boots.

I told the seller about the problem and checked whether there is any update, but it looks like they are working on it as well. Currently I'm using IYING's 12/5 system. The seller's trying his best to be cooperative as well.
[FYT Android Head Units] j-5:
Promising, but judging how long it took for the current 7862 Firmwares to mature, it might be a minute before these things get ironed out.

Now there's all these 7862 non-FYT units, Snapragon units, etc. Where is the dev work happening to get these devices solid? (not the Ali "vendors", that's for sure)

(I'm in the market for a new one for a different car, and the search is quite tiring. I don't even have time anymore to iron the bugs out of my 7862 unit)
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Wow. Looking at the above units you probably recieved the testing unit ( shelf units ) , the amount of light bleed you have on your unit.
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Which brand is this one ?
[FYT Android Head Units] j-5:
The only ones I see are "IYING" with a few different sellers. One says it's "LEROAADZ" but the screens say "IYING"
[FYT Android Head Units] W.West:
Well, mine had some display issues so I replaced the screen with the one I was using with TS10(the picture one).

Mekede also has these called M7 Plus, which they are getting orders for wholesale customers so far. I asked the seller about the release and he said it may not be on sale in Aliexpress. To order Mekede ones, I think you'll have to contact the mekede related seller manually.
[FYT Android Head Units] j-5:
I almost pulled the trigger on one from iYing, but they didn't answer my questions before the sale ended. It went from $277 to $400 for the 12/256 model, so I noped out of that one.
[FYT Android Head Units] Guilherme J. Ceretta:
Another alternative is the mediatek 8667 chip, it is faster compared to the uis 7862, but like all poorly finished Chinese products, it will have some bugs
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Why do you think it is faster? They are both octa-core (6x A-55 and 2x A-75). I think they are directly comparable and I think the uis7862S is slightly faster.

As I am no expert on MT chips, I also looked up the "versus" comparison. (Edit: not on Rockchip either :), I just know a little bit more about these.)

Unisoc UIS7862 vs MediaTek MT8667

Comparison between Unisoc UIS7862 and MediaTek MT8667 with the specifications of the processors, the number of cores, threads, cache memory, also the perfor...

gadgetversus.com

Can you explain why it is faster?
[FYT Android Head Units] Guilherme J. Ceretta:
It's faster compared to the 7862 version and not the 7862s, I have both units, probably the firmware optimization helps a lot, the initial boot time is almost 2x shorter, In addition to the Benchmark score.
[FYT Android Head Units] marjanoos:
Boot time isn’t any reliable factor of cpu speed.
[FYT Android Head Units] Guilherme J. Ceretta:
I mentioned the benchmark score too.
[FYT Android Head Units] maxiauer:
Mediatek 8667 seems to be slightly faster (on paper) as they're clocked at 2.0 Ghz vs 1.8 Ghz for the larger cores. But indeed, they're on the same level / battlefield. RK3588 and UIS 7870 are a generation ahead... but, it might be too early...(too many SW bugs)

1) If you are happy with your current HU, don't do anything. The difference of the "new generation" with current UIS 7862 (and maybe even PX6) won't be world-changing for a device that 90% of the time only plays music and shows maps.

2) If you have an old unit and are starting to get frustrated... wait some months. The "new" generation (A76 x4 vs A75 x2 and higher clocks) is worth enough to delay the purchase if you can... but you might not want to deal with the crappy SW of first iterations

3) If your unit broke and you are in a hurry... maybe is better to buy the unit now... and the Mediatek seem slightly more modern and faster than UIS 7862 and most probably has less bugs than the "new" generation
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Can you ask your seller for the software download link and post it here ?
[FYT Android Head Units] highlandsun:
After all that worrying over 2mm, I ordered it and it arrived today. And they sent me a damn 10" model instead of the 9" that I ordered. Arghhhh.
[FYT Android Head Units] tids2k:
Its currently available for : $425 AUD for the 7870. How much did you buy it for ? The brand name suggests LEROAADZ ? Is this the one you bought ?