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[Windows Mobile Themes] Ather:
amazing work!, is there any QVGA Version ? :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] xboxmod:
Hi

not yet for QVGA

we try to port it on kaiser

but not for now!

very hard work to port it!
[Windows Mobile Themes] mssmison:
this is just point ui is it not? What's the challenge porting to qvga? Is it graphics?
[Windows Mobile Themes] hanackin:
Hi

thanks for sharing!

Is this the new point UI ?:confused:
[Windows Mobile Themes] lepsyfou:
non tête de noeud LOL

thank you for your share french members :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] liamhere:
its a special one made for bell

.......thank foir the cab....will try now :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] brunoisa10:
really good work

Do you have french version ?

Can we make skin for it ?

is there xml for a user version?

salut psy et hanackin :) LOL french guys
[Windows Mobile Themes] xboxmod:
Hi

no other language for now (but possible)

& we can't made skin.

more info about bell mod soon
[Windows Mobile Themes] ksekhar:
Nice job xboxmod. Thank you very much.

Downloading now.....
[Windows Mobile Themes] brunoisa10:
keep up the good work

I like the look of your program

can we have your todo list ?

I'm waiting for your tutorial

do you have a configurator ?
[Windows Mobile Themes] Atrius:
It's nice, and it's quick, but I think it is still a bit immature for complete TF3D replacement. The lack of a proper 'home' screen bothers me.

Good effort though, much appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Blazeitup123:
once installed, at boot, is there the option to load bell ui or touchflo3D? i remember seeing a screen somewhere that had this. somewhere. just curious.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ksekhar:
nice..UI is very responsive.

I am not sure why it is asking me to click to launch bell ui..but will get to know soon :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] KoMa94:
good work :)

(vivement la version française) :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] y2whisper:
yeah wish it would launch at startup but no matter, working on fuze (minus the music tab of course)
[Windows Mobile Themes] citats:
I use Telus the other CDMA carrier in Canada (besides Bell) and after running the cabs My radio would not connect to the network, also the Bell UI would crash after adding bubbles to the screen unless I stopped its initial startup process of automatically scrolling through the bubble list.

Suggest other CDMA users proceed with caution on these cabs.
[Windows Mobile Themes] baallrog:
I want to try this version.

But, is there major bug or problem ?

Could I delete it easily ?

Thankyou in advance !!
[Windows Mobile Themes] ronnybej60:
does this support landscape?
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
Yes, similar to TF3D on the Touch Pro.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Agent Blair:
I'm assuming this doesn't work with wisbar advance 3. I'd like to see my vista-themed start menu instead of the old-type version the Bell UI has. But I'll still try this since this seems far better than anything I have currently!
[Windows Mobile Themes] bboyneko:
help! Anytime I click on any of the bubbles like weather to read more, it says 'A REQUIRED UPDATE IS REQUIRED TO CONTINUE' and won't let me go any further. This didn't happen at first, what can I do to fix this? Anyone else encounter this issue?

If I allow it to continue to download the update and install, then it has errors saying something about subscription required.
[Windows Mobile Themes] TheWebMachine:
Yes...

1) Uninstall the Bell version of Pocket Express (be sure to disable Bell UI in Settings>Today>Items first!)

2) Install the Sprint version of Pocket Express(can be found rather easily as Sprint makes it available freely as an update from their servers without checking to see if you are a customer ;))

3) Setup all of your local information (zip, etc) in Pocket Express.

4) Reinstall the Bell version of Pocket Express over the Sprint Version.

5) Re-enable Bell UI in Today settings.

This will retain all of your registry settings for Pocket Express and they will carry over into the Bell version. However, if you ever need to change your local info in Pocket Express, you will need to reinstall the Sprint version to make the changes and then reinstall the Bell version to use Bell IU.

---

Something tells me I explained all of this in a previous post but I'm entirely too tired to search...if I did, the Mods are welcome to delete either redundant post. :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] bboyneko:
It does not show up in my installed program list.

Also no one has answered my question about bell pocket express requiring a subscription anytime I click on weather bubble or news or anything to see the details :(

And your method does not work to change TOP STORIES in headline news to US news. It stays Canadian.
[Windows Mobile Themes] TNK2005:
Hey, what about wvga devices??? any screenshots or replies? on my g900 it doesn't work on any rom
[Windows Mobile Themes] giorgosm:
In cabs there are file .jif with which program can we edit them, for porting. Or we shouldnt bother with it.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mssmison:
This was developed with point ui. No doubt the similarities between this and point ui 2 are pretty large. Just wait for that to come out.
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
I have yet to find any program to open these files. As far as I know no developer has shown an interest in getting these files open either. :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] mobiAnd:
I wish Unicode will be supported in next version. :)

I'd like it! Thanks for your works!
[Windows Mobile Themes] elektrownik:
It works great on my iPAQ 214, thanks for good work !
[Windows Mobile Themes] realminds:
for i780?

Hi,

Does it work for i780 (open sim)? or needs some tweaking?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jinvox:
Any word on the QVGA mode?
[Windows Mobile Themes] vicie:
I am waiting for the qvga version. really like the ui

gr victor
[Windows Mobile Themes] radarhunter:
w8ing for QVGA version :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] mssmison:
So the point ui team has release all there tools for the new point ui home. Including the pngtojif application as well as a vga theme to get started with. The qvga them will be posted by them soon so we can get this running on qvga before point ui 2 is released.
[Windows Mobile Themes] tuo_kaerf:
Whew! Sound more than great!

Can't wait to have this running on my G710 aka VDA GPS :)

Go on - I appreaciate your efforts...
[Windows Mobile Themes] Emrys_:
Man ! this is perfect !!!!! Thank you very much !!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] loomx:
does this mean we can also change the bell theme to the released point ui theme?! :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] Emrys_:
I'd like to know if this Pocket Express is free.

In fact it asks for registration, and by looking at google, I found only trial version available.

Moreover, it has a tab purchase in the menu...

Thanks in advance,
[Windows Mobile Themes] :
This rocks! Thanks a lot, xboxmod!

The media links are the only very annoying thing. I edited defaultmedia.xml with no results.

Some questions:

Are the media links hardcoded into the exe or into a cdl? If they are in the exe maybe you can edit them.

Is Bell UI based on a beta/alpha/whatever PointUI 2 or on an older release? I saw something about Bell UI being based on PointUI 1.5. :confused:

Sorry for any stupid questions :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] facethefear:
hey xboxmod...thnks for this release
[Windows Mobile Themes] mssmison:
has someone converted this to qvga yet to see if it works?
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
Pretty hard to convert when there is no way to open the jif files to change them. Unless you have a way to do this?
[Windows Mobile Themes] mssmison:
Well I posted the link to the pngtojif app and the theme on point ui's site. Figured it would work. Pretty easy to find out, someone with the VGA version just needs to download the skin from they're site and see if it works.
[Windows Mobile Themes] tuo_kaerf:
for the ones who want to try themselves, please find the SW pngtojif here.

It is also said by them: "

QVGA/WQVGA version available shortly.

If you must create a QVGA/WQVGA theme

simply halve the height and width

of the VGA/WVGA graphics."
[Windows Mobile Themes] blazingwolf:
That would take a heck of a lot of work since it doesn't go from jif to png (unless someone has the know how to reverse it). You would need to create an image then insert it in to the skin to see what has changed. Not exactly what I want to be doing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] facethefear:
As he said... it would take a long time trying to edit these images... but not all the images are hard to figure out as what changes will be made along with changes to the images... like lets say in task bubble..

if you look in the task bubble folder you will see the following jif images..

star1.jif

star2.jif

star3.jif

task.box.checked.jif

task.box.unchecked.jif

task.featureimage.jif

task.largeicon.jif

out of these jif images most of them make sense right away... like the star ones are the background stars... taskbox checked and unchecked are the check box that show up... and task large icon is the task icon next to the title task..

second we know if they have alpha channel of not if you can see the stars moving through them...like in task bubble... the task icon does not have alpha channel...

what you dont know however is the resolution of the images... some of the functions of the images... like i dont know wht the task.featureimage.jif so if I would have to try changing it and see what changes on the screen of my phone... certainly not impossible but very time consuming unless we have a jif to png convertor... I tried alpha batch converter but that is not working... so hopefully someone finds something that can turn this around or can rewrite the png to jif so the process can be reversed... :)
[Windows Mobile Themes] nmhusa:
Reuploaded

Rapidshare link is dead as it was not associated with a user account.

Reuploaded the file to Rapidshare. Here is the link.....

http://rapidshare.com/files/195273525/Bell_ui.zip
[Windows Mobile Themes] nmhusa:
Does this work decently on CDMA phones without breaking anything ?

Tested on Touch Pro using Mightys 4.9.4 rom. Works flawlessy after running express from programs folder and then keeping it running and activating Bell UI on the Today screen
[Windows Mobile Themes] Lucleonhart:
Hey there.

Amaaaaaaaaaaazing Interface! Thanks for sharing!

I've one problem here using it on Xperia. If i opened any program, and close it again, the screen is not refreshing or something, so i only see the closed program, until i tap the screen once... That is very disturbing. Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Themes] sys18_2000:
Very nice UI but it lack UNI code support.

I wish if you add the support for other languages specially BIDI languages (Arabic and Hebrew).

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Themes] guevr001:
where can I find themes? thank you by the way. I like the change from tf3d
[Windows Mobile Themes] norti:
Nice, but did you try any java app after installing the certificates and bellui on other devices than US/CAN ? It messes up the root certificates and any of the previously installed java app doesn't work anymore... and certificates + bellui cannot be uninstalled completely.

I'll think I'll do a hard reset, forget bellui and use pointui home instead.
[Windows Mobile Themes] TacoLoco:
I think PointUI 2.0 is newer and better..
[Windows Mobile Themes] dlevel:
very nice work xboxmod , but can i ask u to make unicode support for it? it really sucks for alla of us we cant use this piece or art... i beg u
[Windows Mobile Themes] ButtaKnife:
So far, the Bell UI beats PointUI's Home2 by a long shot. It's still in beta, though, so we'll have to see how it is for the final release. In the mean time, I'm tempted to try Bell UI or wait for the TP port of the TP2 manilla.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jubeichanxoxo:
I'm with you, All pointUI did was steal bell's interface.The only thing i like about pointUI is the landscape mode. pair it with the gsensor cab and it's kinda cool.
[Windows Mobile Themes] juemue:
PointUI/BellUI

Hmmm. As much as I know they didn't "steal" it - they made it!
[Windows Mobile Themes] breity:
yes, the pointui team was hired to build the bell ui! the bell ui is based on pointui home 2's new engine. they didn't steal anything!:eek:
[Windows Mobile Themes] j.edwards:
There is a serious lack of facts in here. Bell UI was based on the version 1 of our framework. Since then we have extended it and built a new scripting engine on top of that which allows 3rd parties to jump in and quickly extend and customize Home 2 as can be seen by the pile of applets already built a week since releasing it. Of course it doesn't have unicode support - it's Bell's interface for the Canadian market - they support English and French. Us stealing by using our framework to build a product?? Maybe try just a little to get some facts. You dodgy thieves ripping it are the ones stealing.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jubeichanxoxo:
Meow! I can admit that i wasn't aware of the facts but i don't care for the tone of your reply. The same dodgy thieves your referring to are the same one who will buy the finished product. Stand down hommie and thanks for the correction.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jmitr:
1. Thanks for the facts, I wss under the impresion the Bell UI was a standalone app. I did not know it was based on pointui.

2. I also do not appreciate your tone. I am a Bell customer, in the original announcement from Bell it was stated the new UI would be made available for older devices. When this did not happen I was waiting for the minds at XDA to port it to qvga to try it out.

This does not make any one at XDA thieves. Now that it is known the Bell ui is based on pointui2 i'm sure people will wait for that.

If you want thieves go to a warez forum. If this thread is inapropriate, let a mod know and it will quickly be shut down. Thank you again for the facts, next time please stick to those.

Thanks again,

Jason
[Windows Mobile Themes] j.edwards:
Sorry to burst your bubble. Are you licensed from Bell to use their software on other devices? If so then by all means say so. Otherwise you are stealing. Did you pay Bell to use the software on devices other than the ones they ship it with, or receive appropriate permission? If not, then you are stealing. Did Bell have to pay to get their UI created? Yes, so by you using it without licensing it appropriately from them you are stealing. Someone who steals can rightly be called a thief. What is there that's hard to grasp about this? If they choose not to take legal action and let this continue it doesn't change the facts.

jmitr, I think you didn't understand, Bell UI is not based on Home 2.
[Windows Mobile Themes] mssmison:
wow.. like soooo many other usefull threads on xda this one has now totally fallen apart! Sometimes I am so disappointed by the behavior on this forum..
[Windows Mobile Themes] jmitr:
"Bell UI was based on the version 1 of our framework"

That is where I got that from, so is version 1 refering to PointUI 1?

So based on your definition of stealing, everyone who runs M2D has stolen the software because it was ported from another device.

This forum is a development forum, many apps available here have been ported from various devices. I do not believe this is stealing. If a developer makes a software or UI for sale, and someone makes it available for free by cracking that is theft.

Are you upset because you feel you are being stolen from? If so, let a mod know your software is been given away illegally, they will pull this thread. If it is Bell your worried about, I guess by that arguement HTC should demand this whole forum be shutdown.

For the record I have a qvga device, therefore, I have not had a chance to try this UI. I am simply trying to defend all the developers here at XDA who have ported many great apps and UI's over the years.

Kudo's especially to those who have the skills to create their own apps.

People shouldn't have to worry about being flamed for asking about a new UI or software unless it is being offered as warez and they are fully aware of that.

Hope you have a good weekend, kind regards.

jmitr

P.S. I agree with mssmisan, unless it's about the Bell UI I will no longer post in this thread.
[Windows Mobile Themes] j.edwards:
How can you compare M2D which developers here built with a product you are ripping from a ROM of a device that Bell has paid to be developed in order to provide themselves a market advantage and sell more devices?

There is no comparison. Another company has not paid to develop M2D. M2D is offered to the public by the developers as a free product.

M2D raises copyright issues but they are harder to establish and prosecute, although in this case probably not too hard :)

However, blatant ripping of commercial software from a device like the Bell UI - it's stealing.

It's not that complex really.
[Windows Mobile Themes] j.edwards:
And, don't forget the context of this:

I mean, you can pick on our products, choose to use other stuff, gives us constructive feedback, whatever, that's all good, but I just couldn't leave that alone.
[Windows Mobile Themes] jubeichanxoxo:
There really is no need for all this anger. i also will not post on this subject again unless it's about the cab. really just let it go and get over it. you have to have something more important going on this my comment and this thread. sorry to all that now want not to post in this thread
[Windows Mobile Themes] THE GRIZZ:
how come no one pulled the plug on this thing if its not legal. can someone clarify. its been almost 3 months since this was released why didnt you talk earlier j.edwards??

anyway i think mods should remove this as it seams clearly illigal

the last thing xda-devs needs is to get in truble with the very talanted and respactable devs like pointui people
[Windows Mobile Themes] costp:
Here we go :

About jif images used here : http://docs.pointui.com/Jif_Images

How to create them (convert from png) : http://docs.pointui.com/PngToJif

Ho and by the way, I'm a little busy with testing the h2 and this is really good ! Hope the scripting will evolve fast :D

Regards,
[Windows Mobile Themes] TacoLoco:
Who needs Bell UI, if there is Home 2.0? Bell UI wasn't really stable on my device..

Btw the new version gets boring really fast, like version 1 and 1.5.. There should be more customization e.g. change the buttons on the first page.. It takes too many clicks to view all programms.. And why do you make it only for PPC phone owners? If I put fake phone and sms dlls in windows directory it works fine, so why not officially support it?
[Windows Mobile Themes] mike21pr:
can anyone please tell me the paths of the commands for the music, radio, tv and video players in the multimedia section?

that way i can create a duplicate of s2p, wmp, coreplayer and, other multimedia apps and rename to the one spacified from the commands so its properlly launched when i press the button

please help guys
[Windows Mobile Themes] MDtouchDiamond:
So I had pointui home 2 on my phone, and it was a cool alternative to touchflow, and then I saw BellUI, and thought it looked like it had more options. when i installed, I was able to play around with it for a little bit, but then I got the Sytem memory critically low, and looked at my memory and I had like 1mb internal memory available! I installed to internal storage, cuz i didn't want to put that much storage on device, anyone else experience? On a CDMA diamond by the way
[Windows Mobile Themes] mike21pr:
ummmm..... please???

not really, im using a sprint touch pro and its flawless and not a whole lot of memory eaten (cept the above statement which im trying to figure out)
[Windows Mobile Themes] maczealot:
So where do we go for help when this thing doesn't work right?

I'm on a Sprint Touch Pro. I can't exactly call Bell for tech support. I see a few questions posted here and a bitter PointUI employee tarnishing his company's image, but I haven't exactly seen my problem addressed.
[Windows Mobile Themes] maczealot:
I tried this, it doesn't work. There's no way to uninstall either Pocket Express version. It won't let you do it. It doesn't show up in the remove programs list. And you can't install one over the other either so all you can do is have both versions installed at the same time, and you'll never be able to remove the Canadian version.
[Windows Mobile Themes] sracercelica:
How bout using a ROM without a version of Pocket Express Cooked in?
[Windows Mobile Themes] jmenbalek:
Thanks for this xboxmod , it's very nice and pretty , but you have new for this ?

Because i have a "bug" meteo dont work :( , i dont understand :(
[Windows Mobile Themes] workingman:
Is there going to be a wgvga version
[Windows Mobile Themes] jmenbalek:
Hi , what is the files for langage , i dont find it because i want translate to french , thanks .
[Windows Mobile Themes] limhui:
Bell UI works great in palm treo, please refer to this video demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrfFtgSAbeA

since i780 has the same screen resolution of 320x320, it will be great if this Bell UI runs on i780 too. Guys, any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Themes] mickey78:
Anyone got this working on a Samsung Omnia?

I'm from Bell, and they didn't released this UI on the Omnia (yet?!?!) it's a shame!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] markbnj:
Last version? of BellUI

So, after reading the entire thread (all25 pages of it) , I see there appears to be no new version, (except possibly the point_ui version which i need to check for.

Is this correct?

and I did see an answer on page 23 on how to edit the jif files. (here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3387116&postcount=230)

cheers

(and apparently (on fuze/mobility) they show that there is (sort of) a version 2.0 provided by point-ui (one free, and one not free) read about it here:

http://www.fuzemobility.com/pointui-2-user-interface-review
[Windows Mobile Themes] MonteCristoffOn:
Right place

Hi markbnj,

You should go there,

or directly [URL='http://www.pointui.com"]here[/url].

:cool:
[Windows Mobile Themes] baz43:
how do i uninstall it? ive tried doing it from remove programs and it does not work? it has left me with only 267k free memory and its messing up my phone. can someone pleease help
[Windows Mobile Themes] k1sr:
Editing .jif files

From memory, there's some detail on this on the pointui website - have a look at the development pages and you should find something...

Actaully, to save you time... here 'tis:

http://docs.pointui.com/Jif_Images

http://docs.pointui.com/PngToJif

Although I could not see anything about converting JIF back to PNG... although I guess it should be possible....
[Windows Mobile Themes] k1sr:
Found another bug.... A nasty one...

Every program/dll file that I tried to run came up with an unknown publisher warning... I had to approve everything up to 6 times before it would open... It's like you turned WM6.1 into Vista Mobile...!
[Windows Mobile Themes] k1sr:
I couldn't remove it either...

Just delete the folders manually, and delete the relevant registry files...

Obviously be careful when you delete the registry files...

Personally, I have to do a reflash due to the issues in my previous post
[Windows Mobile Themes] xboxmod:
No Major bug.

but cdma seems have a problem!

you can uninstall all cab without probleme

the only think changed in your system is the user agent

changed to HTC-MP6950 & 1 certificate installed.
[Windows Mobile Themes] baallrog:
Thanks very much for your quick answer !!

I'm gonna install it now !

That's on my Diamond !

First wrong thing ... no weather update ... still language failed error ...

The interface is pretty smoot. I'll give it a try.

But Pocket express is too much present ...
[Windows Mobile Themes] marios96:
This is probably the best thing after sliced bread!

Working great on my TP...

Thank you very much!!!
[Windows Mobile Themes] Howell:
Not usable (lots of "language errors") in French on a French ROM...

Good work anyway :D
[Windows Mobile Themes] baallrog:
I have the same issues ... too bad ...
[Windows Mobile Themes] ramontrotman:
works well. but when i hit the home button on my touch pro the UI disappears and nothing happens. i cannot bring it back....if i soft reset how ever it it comes back.
[Windows Mobile Themes] ctrboy:
Thanks Xboxmod, works like a dream (apart from the known bug) !

MUCH faster than TF3D.

Bell FTW.