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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Paperdin:
Battery look realy good have a 10Hour video playing since 6 hours and have 50% now
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] slayer03:
I wanted to try a factory reset too, but now I wonder if it will worth it. I even wonder if anyone with such great battery life use 2 sim cards? I watched many reviews and I have never seen tech reviewers using 2 sim cards. Sometimes when they show their phone you can even see they don't have 5G but just 4G. Wondering if the problem is not the network.

Did you do a factory reset and reinstall everything from scratch or you use Smart Switch / Samsung-Google cloud backup?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Factory reset - Not worth it.

Having 2 SIMs isn't a big deal, having one doesn't dramatically increase endurance, it does minimally, say like half n hr of SOT+ 2 hrs of standby..

I install & configure apps from scratch, restore media only using Smart Switch and never ever had issues.

The battery issue is with June and July builds. Period.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] slayer03:
How to explain that some people have muuuch better battery life than us with the same build?

I increased a bit my battery life by switching the second sim card to 2G only, as someone suggested in this thread. It helped but still not as good as before June. Anyway, I feel that from the beginning my battery life is less good than other people, even before June update. Compare to other phones I guess it's good, but not crazy good like many people say.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
It highly depends on your apps, brightness, settings, background processes.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I'm not comparing my batterylife with anyone else's as it doesn't make any sense since everyone's setup and usage pattern is different. I'm just comparing mine amongst other builds. As such I can clearly say the battery endurance degraded a lot in the last two builds starting June compared to the older builds.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] slayer03:
If I try to do a factory reset, I will try to use the phone without any app installed, then install it one by one to see.

But currently when I check the battery use, I don't see anything wrong. If one day I stay at home, with wifi, low brightness, it will be only slightly better, but still far from what people say about their amazing battery life 🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
I'm not complaining too lol. 85% to 35% on mobile data, 2k, 120hz, auto brightness, at least 2-3 programs running in the background all the time and I'm easilly getting 4hours SOT.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Hypnoz69:
I am disappointed with the battery..

I have been using the phone for 3 months and the observation is clear : the battery is worse than my one and a half year old iPhone 13 pro max.

I don't care about Apple or Android but the conclusion is clear..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
It's work only with power saving... With power saving on, I can reach evening of a day of work...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
For those who are still having doubts about the new build...honestly..I think i could have squeezed another 1 to 1.5 hours of SOT if I'd tried..It.was getting too late and my eyes drooping...hehehhee...Next time....
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Almost 2 days and 9 hrs SOT. Very light usage I must say.

I can get more batterylife than yours playing in the settings if I want to, it's that easy. With exact same settings and usage pattern one would get EVEN way more batterylife with the builds prior to June. So technically, builds post June(inclusive of June) reduced batterylife.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pratik_193:
have you raised a complaint in samsung members app or twitter or sent an email to samsung CEO on this issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Yes, you could get even more SOT with light usage. I was on data throughout these 2 days FWIW.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
Actually I'm getting slightly more battery life on july build compared to february patch(I received my s23u on february 2nd). I can say that 100% guaranteed because I'm using same applications all the time(no new installations). No factory reset since my purchase.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
Just some feedback from my end for whatever it's worth:

-still generally great battery life on July update, haven't noticed any difference really. Single SIM.

-I believe factory resetting doesn't solve problems >90% of the time especially in this context (that is, when you notice something change for the worse following an update), so feel sorry/bad for those who try that to resolve issues. Most of the time, simply have to hope that Samsung fixes it in a future update...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
In most cases 3rd party apps are problematic, causing battery drain. Especially with almost no support(updates). Samsung does a pretty good job with updates on all ends(apps, software).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I don't need more and more SOT . All I want is Samsung to maintain similar batterylife with every build and definitely not worse than the previous build.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
June and July update is worse than previous build... I can reach 1 day only with power saving activated... I've tried to back to the previous builds, but seems that Samsung has blocked bootloaders....
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Samsung updated bootloader version with June build. So not possible to go back to older builds.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I want to stress out that if you set charging limit to 85%, you're actually charging the phone at around 75%.

The last segment of charge pushes a lot more of energy into the battery than just 15%
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
If your battery lasts a whole day with 85% , use protect battery. If not, charge to 100%. Simple 😀
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sunking101:
I didn't need any more proof to continue refraining from updating my phone's o/s. I never do. Ever. Just apps. Still getting awesome battery life on my S23 Ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Ladamen2019:
Exactly, im all day on mobile data,auto brightness,2k120, location and Bluetooth on

Spotify running in background daily more than 8hs
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
Which firmware version?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Ladamen2019:
Latest
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
Which CSC?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sunking101:
It's complete BS. Even if they ragged their battery to within an inch of its life by super-fast charging all the time, fully draining, leaving it on charge in the car daily and using the phone as their only device with two or three full charges per day....the battery would still perform better after three years of use than the way they use it out of the box.

They purposefully cripple their battery life and user experience from day one in order to somehow extend battery life and increase their user experience. :LOL:

I fully charge my phones and let them drain to 10% or less all the time and when I upgrade two or three years later the batteries still perform within 10% of their original state.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sunking101:
You upgrade yearly yet still faff about with battery saving measures? Madness!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Not bad for endurance from 85%. I'm sure I could have cracked the 12 hour holy grail SOT if I had started with 100%...Well, there's always a next time...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Can you pls provide the list of apps/services you debloated so i can also do the same?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] kratoz29:
What do you mean by "disabled Adaptive Battery"?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Anyway, on average I always do slightly more than an hour of SOT every 10% of battery consumed
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
I can reach end of day only with power saving enabled...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I have power saving and light performance.

Honestly is not a problem for me
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
Sure, but isn't normal, with all advertising of Samsung... I had 6 hrs of navigation GPS with Magic 5 pro and all rest of use... No tips or energy saving...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I'll do some days without power saving mode and enabling higher frequency refresh rate, to enjoy the better smoothness

Let's see how it does affect battery
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] kratoz29:
Oh, I see, so it is similar (if not the same one) setting from AOSP?

Why would you get a better battery life with that setting off?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] shouren04:
I'm curious too. I've read lots of people suggesting to turn it off to increase battery life. Some stating that they get 2-4 hrs more SoT. I've never turned it off & with my current usage I'm getting 9-10 hrs SoT which is pretty good, I can't imagine getting even more than that.

I'm under the impression that adaptive battery basically just learns your usage & puts your less used apps to sleep? But some are saying some of them will wake up on their own even if not used & that's what causes more battery drain. So is that true?

I also read that adaptive battery takes days to learn your usage. So if it hasn't had time to supposedly "learn" what it thinks is best for you, those who tried turning it on & not seeing an immeditate improvement in battery life could be the reason why?

I don't have any apps currently showing sleeping or deep sleeping. I have had a few recommendations to put apps to sleep but I haven't. Or is this not a part of adaptive battery at all?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
I think it's more to do with the fact that adaptive battery constantly runs in the background to compile all your usage patterns and "learn" how you use your phone. This, in itself, is a mild battery drain and the reward (battery savings) may (sometimes) not outweigh the battery drain caused by adaptive battery because it is constantly using resources to "learn."

Furthermore, adaptive battery doesn't really do anything revolutionary. It mostly does the basics like throttling performance (which you can already do with light mode + power saving mode), limiting background apps (which you can already do by putting them to sleep or deep sleep), and learning your charging/discharge habits (which you yourself should already know better than adapt battery).

TLDR: It does not do anything new or better than you can already (probably should already) do. If it can't do that, then how can you justify it's drain:reward ratio?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
My battery life is currently fantastic. Getting >1.5hrs SOT for every 10% battery loss. Device lasts 2 days with protect battery or 3 days if I charge to 100% (~33% is what I need to last me an entire day of normal, realistic use), I only use between 85% to 15%, I don't let it discharge below 15%. Also, only losing 2% overnight (<0.25% drain p/hr).

I'd still like to push the limit and see how much endurance this phone is capable of with some debloating. I've noticed that even with suspend execution and background process limits, I'm still sitting around 3.2-3.5 gb RAM free (8/256 gb model). I know aggressive debloating can actually make battery worse, due to wakelocks and querying disabled dependencies.

So, I'm asking if anyone has a list of safe apps to disable via usb that doesn't create wakelocks or query disabled dependencies and battery drain?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
I get maximum 4-5 hrs SOT, I reach end of a day only with 100% charge and power saving enabled... I believe it's a June and July updates problem... I've tied all firmwares and all debloat options, no chance...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] trevzv:
Is wireless charger better than wired? In terms of battery health
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Minto107:
Of course it isn't. It heats up battery
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Normusmaxamus:
July update for me has been steady and reliable. No complaints really.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] shouren04:
Fast wireless charging will create a lot of heat, much more than I'm comfortable with. But it's not the battery that's creating all that heat, it's the coils in the wireless charger & phone.

I primarily wireless charge my phone, but only slow wireless charging. Same with my past 2 phones. I only cable charge when I need a quick charge if I need to go somewhere or out somewhere.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Awesome. Did you top up a little inbetween the 3 days?

What settings are you running? Any debloats via adb? Pls, provide as much info as possible.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Normusmaxamus:
No that's straight from 100% down to 1% no added charge. Yes I've debloted what I don't use and this is the end result. I'm impressed coming from a s22 ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Could you take a screenshot and send your debloat list, pls? Did you use any other settings to increase battery life?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] trevzv:
What do you think? I'm using light mode, only wifi and some apps disabled, 85% to 20% always
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Normusmaxamus:
Only debloat and dark theme across all the device. Nothing else. Here is my debloat list. Hope it helps.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aafrankies:
Max. 5 hrs SOT for day with July update
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Batterylife with June/July builds are way worse than what it used to be. The ones saying it's same as before or "increased" or such, either have no idea about what it used be before June or giving wrong info for whatever reason..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JohnTheFarm3r:
The ones saying that people don't have a better battery life are the ones that are currently coping with their crap battery life.

Just because it sucks for you, it doesn't mean it sucks for everyone else. COPE.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
This argument presents a false dilemma fallacy and seems uncharitable, in my opinion. Additionally, it's worth considering that individuals reporting no change or even improvements in battery life may have different setups compared to those reporting a significant decline. Given the numerous variables that can influence battery life, it is entirely plausible that system updates may only adversely affect specific setups.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
I have always on display completely turned off and never use it. Yet it's draining my battery? First picture is always on display switching my phone on at night. Whenever i place my phone in a dark environment (such as in my pocket or bedroom at night), the screen turns on by itself like that picture. Second is my battery stats abd the battery drain caused by that always on display which i have turned off.

How does it keep turning back on? Is anyone else having this same problem?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
Notifications maybe?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Notifications don't leave my screen turned on all night like in that picture, it can't be.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
Check AOD settings then. I'm using "tap to show" and have no issues. If you are using the same setting I suggest you to clear AOD data.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
I don't have aod turned on. I never use it. It's always off.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
Got it. Then put always on display battery settings to "restricted"
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
I had it on restricted before but somehow it changed back to optimised. I've put it back on restricted now and will see if it happens again. Thanks for the suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Hardly applies to the users having exactly the same setup as "before and after" with similar usage pattern in same locations, equally strong network singals etc. If it's a significant decline after a long period post a factory reset, then it gets narrowed down to the phone software build unless there's a rogue app/service that in this case, isn't present.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JohnTheFarm3r:
People have different usage patterns that include completely different sets of apps. Stop coping so hard, some people have a better battery life with newer updates.

Also, a network can play a huge role in how battery life is. Different network coverage, bands, providers, etc...

Even the ambient temperature can affect the battery life to a slight %. You literally can't say for me it's like that, therefore it's gonna be the same for everyone because XY.

You literally can't create the same environment as other users have.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
It appears that your previous statement may have been misunderstood. You mentioned that people who don't report a significant decline in battery life were labelled as having "no idea" or "giving wrong info". However, it's essential to recognise that individuals sharing their experiences of no decline or even increased battery life might be speaking from their own usage patterns too. Hence, it is plausible that system updates might only affect specific setups adversely. Both perspectives can be valid.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
John, I think what he's trying to say is that while different users will have very different use cases and variables and cannot compare phone performance apples-to-oranges between them (as you very correctly pointed out), it is possible to gauge this on the same setup. His setup may be very different than yours so he cant compare his SOT, etc with you. But he should have an accurate idea on how the phone behaves on two firmwares on his exixting setup (no changes to usage or apps, etc), so in his case, maybe the firmware did change things that affect his setup (network, apps, framework, etc) but not yours. I don't think most people posting here come and try to spread misinformation, most are here just like to talk to other tech-inclined people and figure out what's going on.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sklchan:
Other forum reported the Jun update have disable the 8K video recording in High Bit Rate option within the video setting... I've never use it before so not sure how true is it, but now that option do grey out within the setting selection...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] _GRIZZLY_:
Yes, you are right:

[Update: Reason] High bitrate 8K video recording disabled on Galaxy S23 Ultra

Update: Samsung has finally offered a reason why it disabled the high-bitrate 8K video recording feature on the Galaxy S23 ...

www.sammobile.com

My interesting other casue. Why that fast update bootloader to S2 by June update and then S3 by July of course without back. Only 3 months after unveiling s23..:unsure:.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Weird. My 8k video is still working on July patch?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
My s23u is exactly 6months old now today. I've tried to do battery test again on july firmware and I've got exactly same results. Same great battery life like on the first day of purchase(Still surprised how well this beast lasts. My s21+ exynos with same usage averaged like 4 hours SOT lol)

First photo July patch and second photo February patch.

CSC: EUX

Apps: all the same

Settings: all the same

2k, 120Hz, auto brightness, 4g/wifi, 1sim card(same as before), light performance profile. BT(Smartwatch connected), NFC always on.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Try turning off volte. It seems to make a big difference in battery life for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
No way. Much clearer voice while being on the call with volte on + why turn off such useful feature when battery is great and I can hardly kill this phone in a day.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pratik_193:
How did you turn off Volte? i dont see any setting to do this
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Big Bread:
Settings > connections > mobile networks
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sunking101:
How much battery is Google Play Services taking from you guys ordinarily? It accounts for around 1% of my battery drain per charge which is still low I think but higher than on previous phones when it was around 0.6-0.8% of a drain.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
1. Your usage is Over 4G, single Sim and WiFi 6 with light mode. Ok.

Despite of these above factors that save a lot of battery , your battery endurance is lower than what I used to get till May build

with 2 SIMs both over 5G , standard mode - that actually drains way more than yours. Here's one from March in mine attached.

2. Did you measure the batterylife with Feb patch when the phone was still settling and then comparing to June July builds ? Asking bcoz none are impressive and it makes sense.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
I'm always getting same results. With all firmwares. June, april, july, bla bla. Same usage, same place, same apps, same settings. Only thing is changing outside temperature and now it's way hotter than it was in february. Btw second photo is not wifi 6 with same results.

Another thing I'm not comparing anything to your usage. I'm comparing with same exact setup, usage different firmwares and results are THE SAME
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
You said you bought 23U exactly 6 months back. It was market released on 17th Feb onwards. So it's highly likely that the SS you posted from FEBRUARY was at a time when it was still settling in, resukting in a not so good batterylife that actually resembles to your batteryife from June/July despite of good battery saving measures taken. As for March/April/May builds can't see any with metadata intact.

Yes. Bad batterylife considering 4G, single Sim, with WiFi 6/5..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
I said it's the same on all firmwares with my usage, my setup. It was the same on all builds including march, april, may, june and july.

Bad battery life for you not me.

That's the best battery life on any android I've ever had. Can't kill it in a day using everything I need and want.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Excluding your March/April/May chart. Feb while settling in+July match.

Doesn't change the fact that June/July degraded batterylife compared to prior builds.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
Because I don't want to screenshot everything especially when nothing has changed?

I've just showed you that's not the case. June and july builds are fine. Great battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] JohnTheFarm3r:
Yes, and I'm not arguing here that he has a GREAT battery life and that he can't tell the difference in his own case between the two firmware.

The problem is that he is basically STATING that OTHERS can't have better battery backup with a new update because he has had a bad experience with a new update. His argument is: It's bad for me, therefore it's bad for everyone with the new update.

Read his replies, that's what he literally stated a few times.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sonumb1989:
this phone 's battery life is insane. I usually end up with more than 40% battery life left, even though screen on time more than 5 hours already
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sklchan:
the update not disable 8k video recording but disable the 8k video recording in High Bitrate...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sklchan:
Same here, observed average 1 hour SOT deplete just about 10% and sometimes it's even less than 10%... But it fully depend on what type of SOT activities we are doing, for youtube video playing for sure it less than 10% per hour with screen brightness 80%... GPS navigation observed about 12%-15% per hour depending on the network quality... then if normal doing phone setting, messages, emails, the 1 hour SOT just deplete about 7%-8%... easily daily usage SOT 10 hours before require any charging...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] KantmiS:
How U change icons like bt or wifi?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Reaper1337:
I am also very satisfied with the battery life of the phone, it's consistently high across all firmware versions!

Averaging 8 to 10% Battery Consumption per Screen on hour.

Light to heavy usage, from doing nothing but webbrowsing to wireless android auto and gaming
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sunking101:
My battery life is OK but nothing amazing. I'm still barely scraping a full day's use just like I always do with every phone. I'm also still losing the usual Samsung 3-4% overnight despite being in aeroplane mode so I'm not seeing this supposed new fabulous standby drain. The battery life is good but not iPhone good.