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[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
Thanks for your efforts. I really hope that Nothing crew will look into this matter since it's in the very spirit of this phone
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
I received an email from Nothing today. They said they haven't forgot about me and will be in touch once they find out more.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
They are very close to the users, makes me happy of my choice
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Yes indeed. This makes d9e a very good first start on the cell phone industry. I'm glad to be a part of it.

However, I did give them an ultimatum. Fix it or I go back to OnePlus. Kinda strong, I agree but, we are the buyers.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
Much will depend on the financial returns on this first try...
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
True. However, consumers are wanting what, basically, what the cell phone manufacturers want to give. It is the cell phone retailers that are restricting. And that's not cool.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
"Not good". Nothing responds by saying we are going to close this case.Thats very disappointing. It clearly show the company's direction. But we'll see because I questioned that email. But I'm almost ready to dump this device.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
It's a pity and a nonsense reply...
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Well, it is official ! Nothing returned with my request to have call recording enabled and they have declined that request.

They said that since android 13 came into play that option is no longer available.

So me going forward Nothing is not on my future. Unless I root. And I've told them that as well. They are closed to that idea. Therefore, my interests in the Nothing products has seized.

This is a very unfortunate ending to this battle.
[Nothing Phone 1] TheMystic:
This is not a Nothing problem. This is regional problem. You'll see the same problem on all brands.

You have the option to change your ROM to a region that supports call recording like India, but that again doesn't guarantee that this feature would be available because your SIM card also plays a factor.

Rooting ofcourse solves all these limitations, but it comes with its own set of problems like banking and some gaming apps not working.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
If not them, then another company. Someone who backs their products.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
I have just set-up my OnePlus 7t pro because I was preparing to sell the nothing phone. But I go thinking. First, has anyone had any luck ?

I have read that native call recording is built in. So decided that, first I am going to call Nothing. And secondly it seems like rooting may be the only way. So I may give it one last try.

I will keep updated. As early as tomorrow when I call Nothing.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Also I have read that if you insert a sim card from India, the record option shows up automatically.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
https://xdaforums.com/t/enabling-native-call-recorder-through-csc.3962224/

I haven't read it but you may find there some useful info ...
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
You are correct unfortunately. I think the only way is rooting. I always rooted but lately I have concerns about rooting.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
The engineering code from I found is *#*#54298#*#* but it does nothing for me.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
A quick update: I have reached out to Nothing and waiting for a response. But to be honest, I don't expect much from it.

I called and spoke to management Telus, one of our providers and he was basically quoting me laws that are in place in the US. Basically he's not very knowledgeable.

Even after I get more responses that I'm waiting on, I think the only way is going to be rooting the phone.
[Nothing Phone 1] TheMystic:
You're just wasting time. I already told you this:
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
It certainly is looking that way but it's not a Google thing tho.
[Nothing Phone 1] TheMystic:
That's because he is right:
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Who is right ? lol
[Nothing Phone 1] TheMystic:
You said this:

I'm saying what he said is right. Call recording is not available because of local laws. OEMs are just complying with them.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Yes ! That is true. I received a couple of updates from my service provider.

UPDATE: I have received replies from Public Mobile who is a subsidiary of Telus, a major communications company. And they tell me it has nothing at all to do with them or their sim cards. They say that it is either a "feature" of a particular phone or "it is not enabled by the sim or the provider" So, as we all know, this is a Nothing issue !
[Nothing Phone 1] joyj:
Is the recording option in native Phone app dependent on version, device, locale, or all/other? I don't have that option on my Xperia 5 III, but it could be due to a different problem I'm trying to resolve atm. I really need this feature and have been using speakerphone+ external recorder, which is awful.

I've seen conflicting info about Android not allowing it, and would love to have a definitive answer (like everything lol). I may have to use a previous version for a little while if the restrictions are a major problem. In past I did have to try a few apps and settings ('source' or mic input options) though. It doesn't make sense that the local laws would be what they'd blame... but that doesn't mean anything I guess!

FYI in case it helps anyone, I recently had to look up the laws on this. Here in CO and many other states, the law is called "one party"- meaning only one person has to consent to recording (usually the person doing the recording obviously). This is also federal law I believe, though if your state is more restrictive (2/all party), that law prevails. In any case you must be sure the person on the other end is not in another state or whatever.

Of course I'm talking about being able to use the recording legitimately as evidence or whatever... just recording for your own use or notes....your call I guess 🤣. Btw this applies to phone, not in person or video, which I think is much more strict
[Nothing Phone 1] TheMystic:
Pretty much all major OEMs, except Samsung, have stopped providing their native dialers (with automatic call recording support) on their phones and replaced them with Google Dialer. This is because call recording has different laws in different jurisdictions, and since Google already makes one that complies with all regulations, they use Google Dialer instead to keep things simple, save costs and avoid litigations.

Also, Android 13 no longer allows 3rd party apps access to the call recording API. See details here:

ACR Phone Dialer, Call Recorder, SIP client & Spam Blocker by NLL APPS - Accessibility Service limitation

ACR Phone Dialer, Call Recorder, SIP client & Spam Blocker by NLL APPS - Accessibility Service limitation

nllapps.com

This is why no 3rd party call recording app works properly in the newer Android versions.

Call Recording feature will show up only in jurisdictions which allow it legally, and these checks are built into the OS.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
That is someone true. You are talking about apis that have access to the access abilities. But I have used two call recorders already without rooting and they work fine.
[Nothing Phone 1] MrUrgit:
"This a reminder that Call Recording is unavailable on the downloaded version of Google Phone app.

To confirm which version of the Phone app you are using, check the application details."

Call Recording availability - Google Phone app Community

Also contains a list of countries, and the USA is not included.

Being in Australia I have call recording enabled on my NP (1), but I have to manually record the call once it has started. The ridiculous thing is my Pixel 6A on the same carrier with the same version of Google Dialer does not support call recording due to the operator settings.

Start a recording from a call​

Important: The first time you record a call, you’ll be advised you must comply with local laws related to recording calls. Many jurisdictions require consent by all parties to record the call.

To protect the privacy of all users, when you start recording, both parties are notified with a disclosure that the call is being recorded. When you stop recording, both parties are notified with a disclosure that the call is no longer being recorded.

Open the Phone app .

Make or receive a call.

To record your call, on the ongoing call screen, tap Record

To stop recording, tap Stop recording .

Use the Phone app to record calls - Phone app Help

You can use your Phone app to: Always record calls from unknown numbers. Always record calls from selected contacts. Record an individual call. Tips: You can playback saved recordings and

support.google.com
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Correction.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Correction. Here you go.
[Nothing Phone 1] joyj:
This article is extremely helpful, thanks. Now at least it's clear what is NOT going to work. The Google phone support article confused me.. but on the 'availability' page, USA is not listed anyway. Shame that google has so much control and opts to use it to limit functionality, even where explicitly legal.

How about a 2nd line app/voip etc? I haven't looked into that at all so I'm very uninformed.

I also am avoiding root for now, but may try either the not updating android (I'm about to perform reset anyway), or just some wired headset with inline recorder/splitter.

I just need to document specific calls for evidence and I don't have so much time or want to risk bricking my phone right now. Maybe it's just me, everything is getting more difficult and time consuming!

I'm curious to follow what others decide on this.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
And it works with Android 13.

And it works with Android 13.

That sounds good but our goal is to make the built in recorder available. And it is in there !
[Nothing Phone 1] joyj:
Sorry should've said, I was referring to ACR article The mystic provided:

ACR Phone Dialer, Call Recorder, SIP client & Spam Blocker by NLL APPS - Accessibility Service limitation

ACR Phone Dialer, Call Recorder, SIP client & Spam Blocker by NLL APPS - Accessibility Service limitation

nllapps.com
[Nothing Phone 1] joyj:
Absolutely you're right.

I just mean for my situation I'm forced to seek an easier solution. I'll look for another thread for that lol
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
If you root your phone. Problem solved.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Hey check this out that just appeared. It says removed by OnePlus.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Regardless as to what is actually going on. I think the best approach to a problem like this is to have more customers reach out to these manufacturers and voice their opinion. That is the only way things will change.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
It's simple as that: what about if the two parties agree to record? You just don't have the possibility.

It's the same as the knife. It could be used to harm but usually it's used on the kitchen. So what do we do? We should just use the forks?

They are oversimplifying the matter and in so doing they are doing wrong.

Leave it to me the responsibility to make the choice
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Good reply. You are exactly right.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
The call Recorder I downloaded from Google Pay worked on my phone.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
I'm quite sure you can't record a call - the other side - with a Bluetooth headset or in the car
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Well, I have.
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
Strange, I've tried it before and it didn't work. Will try again because it's a very good app
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
I attached an image of the one I used in this thread. Give it a try and see how it works. But my issue is with Nothing and their la k of help and support. However, it appears that the only way to have true call recording ability is by rooting.

But, I'm still waiting to hear back from Nothing about this issue.
[Nothing Phone 1] joyj:
Which a android version? I might've missed that

I'm back to being confused lol.. I thought I finally "learned" that, at least with Android 13+, this wasn't possible? Maybe I'm still missing something.

I wonder if one might work for me as well, would be extremely helpful 🤔 I don't need BT rec
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Automatic Call Recorder - Apps on Google Play

The best way to record your phone calls.

play.google.com
[Nothing Phone 1] TheMystic:
It will work, but the audio would be bad.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
So, I was looking into the process of rooting this phone. It's the same way as OnePlus. But now there are issues with the boot image in the latest hotfix. Phone is unstable if you try to root.

Both 1.5.3 and 1.5.3.hotfix versions of NOTHING OS are currently unstable if the device is rooted and booting a magisk patched boot img.

An issue has been opened on magisk github.

For now if you want root and a stable device stick to 1.5.2, do not update until the cause of freezes is found.

From here,

Nothing Phone (1) - Repo [ NOS ][ OTA ][ IMG ][ GUIDE ][ ROOT ]

Note: This is not a support thread for issues you may have with Nothing OS ROMs. If you need help installing or updating, feel free to ask here. If you have any other issues, please ask in another thread. Regarding problems with PHONE(1), you...

xdaforums.com

Seems like this phone is turning into a nightmare.
[Nothing Phone 1] mollex:
The call Recorder I downloaded from Google Pay in the Netherlands, works for me.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
There seems to be alot of issues all around this Nothing phone. From call recording to rooting Other issues. Like, I had two calls come in and they went directly to voicemail. They were from the same company. Then the next call is okay. And one or two other issues. I'm starting to regret buying it now. I actually have put it away and now using my 7T Pro.

Is it really .. Nothing ? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
I went ahead and rooted my Nothing phone and installed some magisk modules. And now I have the call record feature listed. However, there is an issue with the latest root because it often freezes the phone.

I still have not heard back from Nothing yet.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
UPDATE: Nothing has gotten back to me. This is their reply.

Bruno (Nothing)

Mar 28, 2023, 10:57 GMT+1

Hi, Roger.

Thank you for being patient.

Our technical team has gotten back to us.

Unfortunately, we will not be able to activate the call recording feature for you.

This is due to Google defines allowed counties to make call recordings.

Unfortunately, Canada isn't on the list and that's the reason why you cannot use call recording.

Since our Phone (1) is powered by Android (Google), this feature cannot be unblocked.

We do apologize that we couldn't assist you with activation of the call recording feature.

Feel free to contact us if you any further problems or doubts.

Kind regards,

Bruno

Nothing Customer Support

- This is unfortunate. But it also says, when you read between the lines, that the call recording feature IS built in to the ROM itself !!
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
In my opinion, the system reads the country id and then modify accordingly the menu available.

The best option would be to modify this part - if possible - and then patch the system.

The good guys here in Xda took out the call recorder module from the Huaweis that still had it and made it available for the P30, for example.

So the best way would be, i think, to patch the system in a way that overcomes the check. But it could require a root, if I'm not wrong, and assumed this patch would ever be available
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Yeah that could be an option. Also you can see that I was able to have the option available in the settings menus vis root and magisk. But, if that option is already built into the ROM, I wonder if there is a code to activate it !
[Nothing Phone 1] pepelemoko:
I would think that it should be removed the "checking" of the country ID
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
Good idea.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
I'm now on Android 12. Stable. Call recording in settings. Record calls very clearly. However, from my tests so far, it will only record outgoing calls ! Incoming calls are not recorded. And you don't have full access to them, only can play then in the person you called in the dialer.

And with all the mods, it keeps getting deactivated, like, every hour at most. lol !

I even have joneplus tools installed.

I think, this phone is a decent over-priced mid-range phone that offers very little but basic functions. Don't excpect anything more. And I don't think in the near future anything will change with this.
[Nothing Phone 1] rogerrulez:
I have managed to get full call recording on both sides.

I've installed many magisk add-ons but I think the one that is working is BCR. Also, if you can get get joneplus tools installed that will activate it as well.
[Amazfit] BarnOwl:
For two months my T-Rex 2 automatically started my rowing machine identifying it perfect when I was starting my workout.

After the update 9.34.1.2 it did not auto start anymore. From then I had to start it myself.

So I sent a message to Amazfit support about this issue but I got nothing more then "Sorry but we cannot find the problem" even after sending several log codes through the Zepp app.

Finally last week I called Amazon and I got a brandnew watch but still the same problem.

Anybody here have the same problem? (Only row machine does not start by itself but all the oTher workouts do start by auto recognition)
[General Topics] ryuxanten:
I'm sorry if i'm out of general threads and for my english...

i have an old ipaq 1945 and i have read that there is a rom in italian for 1940 that i would put on this ppc but i don't find it. Where can i find!?

If it's not possible there is a rom that i can install on it!? Also of other ppc?

How can i install office in italian on this ppc? When i try to do it a message says that it's not possible because of different language...it's possible overcome this!?

Thanks
[General Topics] ryuxanten:
An answer please!!!
[General Topics] ryuxanten:
You're not able to make a rom in italian of this ppc??? How can i do to create a rom from english version and translate in italian!?
[General Topics] darthbane2k:
its an ancient device. . (actually my first pocket pc many yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs ago) - good luck
[General Topics] ryuxanten:
yes but there is no rom that can i put on it!? Also of other Ppc!!?? I need so much an italian rom or how can i install office in italian...when i try it says that it's impossible because of different language!
[Redmi Note 11 (spes/spesn)] Deleted member 11572871:
Hello, I downloaded SetEdit on my phone today and I have questions about 2 values

- The first one is deviceLevelList, I know it enables blur effects but for some reason, setting "g:1" to 3 doesn't enable the blur effect and I find the gray background quite annoying

- The second one is a value I modified by accident, it's "misettings.support.repost", I don't know what it does so I set it back to 1 but if anyone knows what it does, I would love to know!

Thanks in advance
[Android Head-Units] Jelosia:
hello .in my car there are two amplifiers for the front and a sub, how to connect it correctly and where to get the rem, the radio tape recorder is connected via canbus, сanbus works fine, all functions are displayed, doors, climate temperature, the only thing I don’t understand is why the radio does not turn off completely and pulls out the battery, and how to connect the RCA correctly, I have two of them for the subwoofer, and from the radio one comes out , sorry i use a translator
[General Questions and Answers] thelite:
i've read a blog post somewhere which talks of the possibility to lock a sumsung download mode, how can this be done or undone?
[General Questions and Answers] V0latyle:
Can you provide more details?

The bootloader lock prevents flashing and booting of unsigned images. With a locked bootloader, download mode does not accept custom software; all software packages must be OEM signed.

An unlocked bootloader (with Knox Guard disabled) will allow flashing custom firmware, such as TWRP recovery.

So, in that sort of sense, I suppose the bootloader lock does control what download mode will accept via Odin.
[General Questions and Answers] thelite:
im on the sumsung galaxy a032F, there is no oem unlock in developer options so i guess i cannot unlock the bootloader, and when i try to flash a custom firmware via odin i get an error mdm mode can't download odin. so after reading the blog post i was wondering, could the download mode be locked
[General Questions and Answers] thelite:
im a newbie and i could be wrong about all this, but its been 2 days and googling has not hepled
[General Questions and Answers] V0latyle:
Ah, ok. That makes a little more sense.

The bootloader has to be unlocked in order to flash custom firmware.

The process works like this:

Turn on OEM Unlocking in Developer Options (allows bootloader to be unlocked)

Boot device into unlock mode - starting with device off, hold both Volume buttons and plug in USB cable)

Follow device instructions to unlock (will wipe data)

Boot into system, allow system to connect to Internet to disable Knox Guard

Reboot into download mode, use Odin to flash TWRP

Use TWRP to flash custom ROM

So, if OEM Unlocking is not available, you can't do any of this, because that is the first step.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Unless you have factory restarted your device within the last week, no oem unlock means no custom firmware. You have the snapdragon variant, right?
[General Questions and Answers] thelite:
thanks for the answer, but i was wondering is there a way in which the oem unlock option can be hidden and unhidden or some way in which you can be prevented from unlocking the bootloader, because even the wipe data/factory reset is disabled, i came across this kind of devices and i was just curious is this entailed in android development or what material can you recommend if i want to know more about this
[General Questions and Answers] V0latyle:
Bootloader lock doesn't prevent a factory reset. The screen you showed is recovery mode, not download mode. That's really strange, I've never seen factory reset hidden before

I think this is the clue. You have a organization managed device with an MDM lock (Mobile Device Management). MDM is used by enterprise IT departments to manage devices and can prevent bootloader unlocking as well as factory reset.

Let me guess, you bought this device used?
[General Questions and Answers] thelite:
yes, i got this device from somebody for experiment, just to see if i can go past all this, and yes the screen i showed is a recovery mode screen, i was showing the hidden factory reset option. any help how i can go about this
[General Questions and Answers] V0latyle:
I think your only option is to find out which company the phone belonged to before. If they removed it from their fleet, they can probably remove the MDM lock. This is actually pretty common - enterprise managed devices will be "retired" from fleet service and sold without being properly decommissioned - they're wiped, but the IT department doesn't remove the MDM lock.

They might or might not unlock it for you, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
[General Questions and Answers] thelite:
so technically i can't find a way around it myself, i just have to request the company
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
There is no way I know to bypass it.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
There are lots of videos online if you Google “ bypass mdm lock android “
[General Questions and Answers] V0latyle:
MDM locks typically can't be removed by the end user. That's the whole point - to prevent employees from using devices inappropriately and removing them from enterprise management via factory reset