[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
He hasn't even used the S23U. - he's explaining why he will only use phones with 1" sensor type. But yeah if you only shoot RAW - only in situations that can turn out great photos - then the Vivo is clearly very good and the 1" sensor tyüe can play it's advantage. But then I feel he will have to drop the x90 as soon as the first phone with 1" sensor type and variable aperture comes out.

But for point and shoot and situations where the conditions aren't good - like trying to shoot a portrait against the sun - the Vivo fails badly. That's where you usually use a flash - but the Vivo flash seems to have no different intensity? Impossible to get something proper out of the Vivo with flash while Iphone of Pixel 7 Pro (haven't had a S23U yet) do turn out usable pictures - not great but usable for social media. Vivo just gives it an utter fail even with gcam and no sense to even try to use the flash. Yes with good HDR flash has much less importance than 10 years ago - but HDR on vivo against backlight for portrait isn't there yet to give me a picture that isn't overexposed while getting detail for the face. (Sun at less than 45° to shooting direction).

There are quite some comparison shots between X90Pro+, S23U, Mate50Pro and some other cams here:

https://twitter.com/sev7en2507?s=09

I really feel the Mate50 Pro just turns out way better pictures than the rest. It's clear why it's N°1 on dxomark for me looking at those pictures. I just don't like the colours/exposure on X90 Pro+. Mate50 Pro rules on colours/exposure and both Samsung and Vivo really fail in comparison for my taste.

The audio is also on another level on other phones - dxomark review on audio is out - https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/Vivo/X90-Pro+#audio - and it's doing badly vs Pixel, Iphone and very likely S23U too (because already S22U was better -and S23U got a big upgrade on Audio recording and slightly better speakers).

I did several trips in the mountains lately - and if I don't put my x90P+ into airplane mode - it just will not get me through 2 days even on light usage. For me overall the back cameras are a draw of Vivo vs S23U, the front camera well it's a failure on x90 series, and except the fingerprint sensor the only advantage I could find would be that Samsung saved the money by dropping apt-x lossless. If you have speakers/headphones that support apt-x lossless but not LDAC that's a huge point. For me missing ANT+ is a much bigger issue - cannot use my x90PP as a bike computer - as nearly all fitness equipment like power pedals use ANT+. And don't get me started on using things like Bluetooth for those - Bluetooth LE is light years behind ANT+ when it comes to battery life. I tried several dual Bluetooth/ANT+ heartrate straps and none even get's 1/4 of the battery life of heartrate straps like the newest ones from Garmin with ANT+ only. But yeah - that's personal preferences - someone needs apt-x lossless - someone else ant+...

BTW - notebookcheck gave the x90 pro+ a very low score for camera overall (while still praising the camera in parts) - not sure how their protocol ended up doing this - but guess it's due to the selfie cam. Battery life get*s commeneted to be on S22U levels (quite reasonable if you don't use Wifi all day...) It's clear that S23 trumps the X90Pro+ on battery life by a lot.