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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] EtherealRemnant:
I like it more. It doesn't reset every time your phone reboots or the app gets closed, just when the phone is plugged in and unplugged, and Accubattery recently changed the algorithm for battery health to the point that it doesn't match the way most people charge their phones anymore. Battery Guru also has adb permissions you can give it for more insight although unfortunately the wakelock analysis part doesn't seem to work on the S23U.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Xoltro:
Hi what is ur battery usage standby in deep sleep? Yesterday I left unplugged phone for whole night and accubattery reported me in night I had like 1% draining per hour (s23+ not s23u but its pretty same) when had do not disturb, wifi, LTE, location, NFC, BT off. I wonder if it is not too High and if it shouldnt be lower. How to spot what is problem here
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
Nominal drain using tap on AOD with internet and phone enabled should be .5-1%@hr.

Probably should be less than that; this device should be more efficient than my N10+ and has a 700mAh bigger battery!

If it's not getting that it should be optimized.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Xoltro:
As I said I am getting much worse results then. Its average 1% in standby (wifi on or in night with wifi off). I already have 2 weeks this phone and didn't use smartswitch for apps, just after setting up I cloned contacts and medias.

No idea how to spot a problem. When screen is on the phone is not draining battery more than normal, I would say it is pretty awesome on SoT, and draining like 6-8%/h depending what I am doing.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
Likely a cloud app like Google backup Transport.

Try temporarily disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. Backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of Google play Services...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Xoltro:
Looking at accubattery usages it shouldnt be problem
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] cledee:
It could be an app that's either trying to backup or sync somehow and it's hung up. Whatsapp for me is set to backup around 3am but if it's not plugged in and on wifi it will pause the backup and will keep trying to backup until the conditions of being plugged in and on wifi are met.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
That's what trashware does... social media apps should never be installed. You are what you load.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] cledee:
I disagree, some social media apps are great tools for communication and you can also limit the apps via settings. The backup and sync issue can happen with any app that has that function.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Xoltro:
How u are setting up conditions for sync? I see only that I can turn off sync or turn on how can I change to sync like once per hour or smth.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
A multi-vector security threat including data mining, your data... don't feed the beast.

They weaponized social media over 20 years ago. Easy pickins.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] cledee:
Do you have a Google account? Even Apple was caught mining data. Facebook by far is the worst. By now you know the deal. I use Whatsapp for communications as it's better and more secure than Text or even RCS which is still not fully encrypted. It's also used by a lot of people I know.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] cledee:
I think the settings will be in each individual app. Just check any social app that backs up to the cloud or any of your Google apps like Google photos, drive, that do backups. Any of those apps that gets stuck backing up or syncing will cause drain during idle time.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mtm1401:
GSAM would be my go to but currently isn't working properly. batteryguru is probably your best bet until GSAM is fixed

Charge the phone to 100% and take it off charge as you go to bed, see what shows up in the morning in your battery stats

Something else to try is a routine that turns off sync when not charging as it doesn't impact anything like WhatsApp and messages etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] domperidane:
extra ordinary phone.

7 hours 35 minutes SOT.

but on for 3 days 5 hours usage.

battery only 5000 mah.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Mugetzsu:
Here's my usage with the S23 ultra on my first day of use. I didn't use smart switch and installed all the apps manually, wqhd+ 1440p, used mobile data majority of the time. Uninstalled bloatwares I don't need, AOD off. Adaptive battery on and performance profile to Light
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ceftriaxone:
This is impressive! How's the cellular signal at your place? I assume exceptional.

You did or didn't use smart switch? Guess you made typo?

You can try nova8 (beta is working good).

How did you uninstall bloat, via adb?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Mugetzsu:
I just used smart switch to get my old files on my old phone. I uninstalled the bloatware via adb appcontrol. Cellular signal is not bad either
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] illetyus:
From my experiences the "MaxHZ" thing works flawlessly well with ADB permissions.

1) When screen is off it takes phone to DOZE MODE more quickly

2) When the screen is off it limits refresh rate to 10hz

3) When the screen is off, it takes phone to power saving mode after 10 seconds.

Took off from charger at %85 at 11:30 today, it is 00:23 right now, i am with %58. Screen on time is : 110 minutes. I will put it into charger when the phone is about %35. So I have at least 1 hour of screen time to go.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] djoxie:
Cool but you charged it a little bit, so take ~30min off that result
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Mugetzsu:
Oh yeah. Like 5% more I think I plugged it in real quick in my car. Still not bad. Probably like 15 mins off
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
I just did another test without any social media installed. The only one I use anyway is Facebook and test shows getting rid of it save an hour and a half of battery. So I just put it on my Galaxy tabs7+. I don't hardly ever use it when I am at work. So here the results. 12 hrs 30 min SOT. I could have got another hour probably if I had used the Light Performance Profile. (100%-15%)

The settings were WQHD, Adaptive Brightness Enabled, Motion Smoothness on Adaptive, Battery Adaptive, Bluetooth off and WiFi on with No mobile data being used at all because I was at home.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] LuthorKid:
You have your suspend execution for cached apps enabled or disabled?

What's your ram plus digit?

Also, what's your average SOT you get when you're out using mobile data?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
When connected to data, the SOT/battery usage increases compared with WiFi. This is the case with any smartphone. The suspend execution can be set to default (which is disabled by default in Android) while RAM plus needs to completely disabled whatsoever...both these are a criminal waste on battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Keos214:
Hello, 5 days in a row with 90% charge and 10% lowest

What do you think guys ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] LuthorKid:
You mean the SOT decreases on mobile data compared to using WiFi?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Again, I quote my previous post, SOT is NOT a metric of battery endurance. You can have record levels of SOT even on data if you never let the phone screen sleep! But generally data uses more battery than WiFi. It's not the case with this phone alone. It's probably a universal truth. 🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] LuthorKid:
Yeah, sure a record levels on low refresh rate, low brightness void of medium to heavy tasks. Dude, I'm asking from experience. My batt endurance is poor on data and I get a disappointing SOT in that regards too.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I haven't been on data for as long as I have been on wifi. From experience, let's say on a regular 1-hour use on wifi, I would drain 5%. For the same usage, I would drain an extra 5% if on 5g and 2% if on 4g. This is grossly generalized but if you'd want to put a number to it..this is how it would be.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
Suspend is at Default, Ram Plus was at 8 gb during test cause I had not thought to check that when I got new phone but now disabled. As far as Mobile Data l will never be a good source for that in testing. The reason being the only time it's ever in use is on my 5 mile trip to work. Rest of time I got 5G WiFi at home and at the Hotel where I work. Plus I am Deaf so I don't make any voice calls. But yes if you are a heavy 5G Mobile Data user that going to cut into you Battery life alot. Disabling 5G and using LTE instead if that's an option on your carrier like mine (T-Mobile) will help mitigate the high battery usage of 5G.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I agree with you on the data-being-a-battery-hogger part but not on the 5g vs 4g usage. Unlike the S21U, this device has a far more efficient modem such that the standby/usage over 5G is almost the same as 4G.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
That I didn't know but thanks for the heads up. 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] LuthorKid:
Hmm... mine is way above those numbers you stated. I'm actually on 4g. I did use smart switch during my trade-in. Maybe that largely constituted to the drainage on my end.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
SmartSwitch is all but Smart! I'd do an ODIN flash using the CSC (not home-csc) in the CSC slot and start from scratch. Please never use Smartswitch to restore anything from previous devices. It's just a vestigial app that does more harm than good.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] LuthorKid:
Ok, I'm confused. I must admit it's been years I touched Odin. So I'm very rusty at it atm. If flashing CSC via odin will solve this; are you implying it will wipe the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Yes, using the CS file instead of the home csc file will completely wipe your device bringing it to factory settings. You need ensure you download the ODIN ROM for your device. Frija should be a good starting point...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Swift92:
Only got my S23U yesterday. So my battery isn't that good. Should wait at least a week right before it gets better?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] LuthorKid:
Thanks. I will do just that. Still, I'll consult you if I come across difficulties
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] brockyneo:
Hi all I've done a few mods ect and my battery seems OK can I ask does light performance profile impact anything like the camera quality or display,speakers etc or does it just tone down the cpu?

Also does adaptive smoothness impact the battery compared to 60hz

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
The light profile has no impact on the camera quality/display/speakers etc. It does play with the CPU clock-speeds but it's not noticeable. 120 hz will surely impact your battery more than 60 hz but why do you want to put your phone on 60 hz?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Swift92:
7% my S23U lost over night. Got it Sunday, my S21U would only loose around 4%
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] KantmiS:
12h SoT on wifi. This Snap is amazing.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
I'm coming from the S21 Ultra (Exynos) - has anyone noticed the S23 Ultra battery display drain from 100% is much slower?

With the S21 Ultra, I go from 100% to 99% within about 10-15 minutes (with AOD always enabled), even without using the phone. In contrast, it takes the S23 Ultra more like at least 40-60 minutes. I'm not complaining, but just found it interesting how different it was.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] KantmiS:
Welcome in Snapdragon world.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] brockyneo:
Hi all is this good battery life? I've done loads of tweaks and debloat but I was thinking of factory reset as see people with 10 hours on screen time and I don't seem to be getting that,hope I have got a defect battery lol
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] brockyneo:
So is that a yes or no lol 😆
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Thanos88:
It's very good
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Swift92:
I used smart switch to transfer data from S21U to my new phone. Using light mode performance profile. Installed March update earlier 🤷🏽 doesn't seem right to me.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
If you just bought it wait atleast few days. Battery will improve soon
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mtm1401:
That's a 'lets switch phones' 😭
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
I've gotten 11-12 hours consistently by removing Facebook. It's only social media app I use. I got Facebook messenger still installed for messages but view Facebook thru the browser instead of the app. I get an hour of SOT for every 10% of battery sometimes more. Social Media Apps are the biggest drain on battery life not to mention the security risks. Some use more than others but Facebook seems to be the biggest and hungriest offender. Getting rid of Facebook alone gives me an extra hour to hour and a half of battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] linom:
Here's mine. All on Wifi with battery protection mode (85% charged). Disabled Adaptive Battery, Enabled 'Suspend Execution of Cached Apps', Light Battery Mode and all less used apps in deep sleep. Moderate usage only and this will easily last me almost 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
Btw, I have the feeling that charging to 85% actually reduce battery life more that just the missing 15%... I'd say a 25%
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] KantmiS:
What "Enabled 'Suspend Execution of Cached Apps'" do?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] linom:
It freezes background activity for apps. For some it works, for others it doesn't make a difference in battery life. Check these out:

Enable suspend execution for cached apps to prevent battery draining

This option saves a lot battery by killing or freezing cached apps, and I haven't faced any issues so far after enabling this...

r2.community.samsung.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/oneui/comments/r9rqyp
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Why would that be the case? As per several battery gurus, keeping the phone charged between 25-85% is the sweet spot for smartphone batteries.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I just mean the life of the single charge. Charging to 100% feels like it pack way more energy into the batter than 85%, not just the 15% more
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Yes, there's more energy at 100% than at 85% but you sacrifice the battery life. If you have a Samsung care+ plan, here's what I would do. Closer to the expiration of the plan (i.e. 11 months from now), drop your phone such that there are scratches on the back/screen...I know this may hurt you more than the phone...but it's for the better! Give it to the Samsung centre, they will replace the part along with the battery... In either the back panel or screen replacement case, the battery is also changed by default. This is what I did with my S21U...so in the second year, I had a brand new battery, screen and back panel... 🤪😆
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
But isn't always charging to only 85% practically worse than any battery degradation? You are already "degrading" your battery by 15% from Day 1 by doing this. How long would it actually take the battery to degrade naturally by an absolute amount of 15% if you always charged to 100%?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Can someone here please explain what this crazy wakelock is?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] gCloud:
Acording to Accubattery, charging from 20 to 85% costs 0.25 cycles of wear, charging from 20 to 100% costs 0.95 cycles of wear. Who knows if true or false.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
Can that be translated to real-world use? Not sure what it means regarding "cycles of wear".

As I said before, if you only ever charge to 85%, you're practically starting with 15% absolute battery degradation from Day 1, which is huge imo. I'm highly skeptical that charging to 100% would degrade the battery to that extent over say 2-4 years (on top of the battery degradation that of course still comes with charging to 85%), but happy to stand corrected if people have data demonstrating this.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Swift92:
I did factory reset as I would loose 5% in 2 hours standby.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
But if at the end of the day this 85% is enough, then it worth preserve the battery (and maybe disable this option when you need more juice, or in 2/3 years).

Anyway, more than 10h of SOT in perspective, with some maps, mobile hotspot and around 50 photos taken with gcam.

(This was a try starting from 100%)

What a incredible device
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
That's a good point about having less battery degradation for the future, in case it matters then.

I just thought of another scenario too - there are many people who are able to charge their phones in multiple locations, so they never actually get low on battery. For these people, having a cap of 85% makes sense, as they would never need that extra 15%.

Personally, at least psychologically, I'd rather use the phone at its maximum (potential) settings - "you" don't get a high end (?highest at the time) flagship and throttle its potential. Furthermore, you never know when you may need that extra 15% of battery when your day starts. Unexpected things can happen in life.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] lil_kujo:
Its a good article from gary explain.

How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips

If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.

www.androidauthority.com
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Is anyone else facing this wakelock? It's driving me nuts
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
@dr.ketan pls help me
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Keos214:
Iptv drain is vers low i like this 23 ultra so much
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Goku1992:
Insane for me...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mtm1401:
Yea I agree with this. My bet is Samsung have 'Appled' the 90-100% so it lasts longer than the other 10% segments to give people reassurance when they take it off the charger. You see it in very iPhone battery test.

Easy to recreate yourself by charging to 100% before you go to bed, then using protect battery and doing the same. Usually a good few % points difference
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] EtherealRemnant:
If you leave the phone plugged in after 100% with an app like Battery Guru that shows you the wattage going into the phone, it continues charging around 2-5W for another 20 minutes or so after the phone reports 100%. There is definitely a top end buffer there.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] djoxie:
What did you tweak?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] iamnotkurtcobain:
Pretty good ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ggrant3876:
This only my second full charge since receiving my S23 Ultra and still at 28%. Somewhat better than my Fold 4.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I guess I have figured it out...it seems to the Samsung Health app that's causing this wakelock. Uninstalled it and all is back to normal.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Goku1992:
Debloated and used the settings in the Oneui opimisation thread : https://xdaforums.com/t/discontinue...ung-galaxy-one-ui-optimization-guide.4376755/
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
Hey gang - I've noticed that most nights (not all), my battery drains almost 20% while I'm sleeping. Checking GSAM, I notice that Android System is listed as the highest using app, accounting for 30% of the drain. Under Android System I see "ImsService" with a much longer wakelock time than the others. Anyone know what this is and if it's something I can control? Could my drain be caused by something else that I'm not seeing?

The phone is on wifi all night.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
ImsService pertains to VoLTE. If you have Samsung health, I would uninstall it asap.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
Interesting, thanks for responding. I do have Samsung Health, but I do use it and it is synced with Galaxy Watch. I'm not sure what it would be doing in the overnight, but if that's the culprit, I'd rather first see if there's a way to fix it before uninstalling it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mtm1401:
Looking at that, your phone has been kept awake for 7 hours, of which android system is only 2, so I don't think it's the full story. What does the rest of the app usage look like?

Also GSAM has a bug, so BT is showing very high, switch it off and on again, then refresh GSAM and post again.

Unless they've updated it, GSAM is a bit bugged atm
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
Thx for the info. I did notice GSAM force close a few times after issuing the adb permissions but then it started working after some time. I'm going to uninstall it and try using Battery Guru to get some stats on what's going on.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Hayabusa TX:
This is max I got. This phone is beast
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
I did a little more digging yesterday and went into the Permissions for Samsung Health and disabled the "Physical Activity" permission. Last night I only lost 4% battery overnight compared to about 18% the night before in a similar time period. I will continue monitoring to see if this was a fluke but if it sticks will leave it disabled since I mainly use my watch for step tracking anyway.

I also uninstalled GSAM and installed Battery Guru. Pretty interface, but holy cow, TMI! Took a good amount of time just to figure out what I was looking at. Will probably go back to GSAM if they can fix their Samsung bug.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] quertiy:
I agree with everything you're saying.

Particularly that the 15% from 70 to 85 is MUCH different than the 15% from 85 to 100.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] illetyus:
Hello all.. The Android System is eating my battery as "Backround" services.

I have a Garmin watch, the phone does not count steps but 16 hours of step counting? WTF is this?

Also is there way to get rid of "Auto Rotation" thing?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
Forget this. Last night it went back to draining 17% overnight (from 4% the night before). Will need to keep digging!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] hand-filer:
3% battery loss @ 10 hours overnight. Clean installation right out of the box. No social media apps and no battery monitoring apps. Mild debloat including anything health related. Nothing put on standby overnight aside from BT. Keep looking, something out of the ordinary going on there.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] illetyus:
Is there a "Debloat guide" you followed?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
Lost 10% in 7.5 hours overnight, which granted is better than the 17% loss I've been averaging but still way high considering a few nights it was 4%. Are you able to make anything out with these stats? Checking the app sucker time held awake stat, Kernel accounts for pretty much all of it. And is it normal for bluetooth to be active the entire time? Thanks, I appreciate the input.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] mtm1401:
Bluetooth still looks bugged as mine was always active but % drain was never that high.

Hard to say what's keeping it awake, did you smart switch?

In settings what does the standard battery graph show?

Is there anything using lots of data in the background?

I don't have the app installed anymore, does it still have the section in the photo I've attached
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tripjnj:
There's a similar section titled "View Num Times Waking Device" that lists the apps and wakelocks, but of course I didn't take a screen grab of it!

I will try again tonight and see what I find.

Yes, I did use Smart Switch. I know it's a no-no but I can't fathom having to start from scratch when my S21 Ultra was set up just perfectly.

Thanks for the response. It may also be worth turning off BT one night and seeing if it fixes it.