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[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Thanks for the information! If you are planning to buy a Linux-based phone just remember that their biggest weakness right now is lack of apps, although many phones, including some on my above post, are capable of running Android and Linux.
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
I finished adding the Devices to the Ubuntu Touch section, and am thinking of adding more devices and expanding device information. Still looking for some popular open-source mobile Linux apps - any suggestions?
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
I added the Fairphone 4 and finished the "Supported Operating Systems" part of all the devices. I might add the Fairphone 3 and 3+ as well. Also, I'm still dragging my feet on updating the postmarketOS tables. Maybe tomorrow. :)
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
I'm torn about if I should link the OS's in the "Supported Operating Systems" part of a device to the main page or the device-specific page. 🤔 Perhaps both. Also, I'm adding "⭐"s to manufactures that are Linux-first (They ship devices with Linux preinstalled).
[General Topics] SigmundDroid:
Tricky as android is linux, too. Well, sort of... :D Still, I know what you mean and I fully support the star: Frankensteining some android for slightly better privacy does not make it a saint.

As for me, I hadn't much time for picking/chasing a new phone but at least installed eOS for further inspection. And I might get a BQ for testing...
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Well, Fairphone doesn't even talk about running Linux on their phones, and I'm pretty sure the only reason they have support is because of the community volunteering.
[General Topics] SigmundDroid:
I wonder, since eOS is listed should iodéOS be added, too?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IodéOS

At least this sounds encouraging:

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/iodeos-d...striche-bei-der-sicherheit-custom-roms-teil3/

Also, it's available for my Fairphone FP3 (and others)

https://iode.tech/en/iodeos-installation/

On the positive side it does not force you into any cloud accounts (like eOS/Murena), as far as I can tell (haven't installed/tried it yet).
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Yes, thanks for reminding me, there are many OSs that I need to add to the Fairphone and PinePhone devices. I will add them as soon as I can.
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
iodéOS has been added, and I'm now working on the apps section. Thanks for reminding me! :)
[General Topics] SigmundDroid:
Since I was adding to your workload... let's keep it that way, shall we? ;)

Perhaps, adding XDA's own Ubuntu Touch forum is possible?

https://xdaforums.com/c/ubuntu-touch.2068/

My own testing with FP3 on UB Touch is concluded: Yes, it does work (was very happy once it did). Very nice installer! Unfortunately, it has only few apps and it kept often rebooting when taking screenshots.

Currently, it is a prerequisite to get Android 10 for installing which was a bit painful to get it (generally we are already at Android 13).

The lack of apps is painful - maybe I was expecting too much (was thinking ubuntu). And every thing needed like 1-2 extra seconds to start. Browser were not as snappy as elsewhere.

EOD: Not a gamechanger yet (personally for me not even an alternative). Still awesome to have something completely different!
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
I have added a link to XDA's Ubuntu Touch thread in the Ubuntu Touch section. Yes, don't expect it to be an alternative quite yet, although every year mobile Linux gets much better. The reason there aren't many apps is because most Linux apps weren't designed to be adaptive, so they either have to be tweaked or rewritten to work on mobile devices.
[General Topics] HippoMan:
I came here from the Android cat-and-mouse game thread on the recommendation of @ethical_haquer .

I'm wanting to investigate Linux phones, and I will soon be asking some specific questions here about the pinephone.

Thank you for recommending this thread!
[General Topics] SigmundDroid:
Almost forgot to mention it: Had a librem 5 in the meantime...

Nice thing, very heavy and solid. The display was surprisingly good, didnt miss the FullHD at all. Software and usability? Oh well... I felt like the proverbial Alice in the rabbit hole, flashing alone took me some time. Documentation (and good hints) exist but it was cumbersome to find proper infos. Eventually, after being too stupid to install KDE Plasma I sold it again.

Would I try again? You bet :D

What happens next?
[General Topics] KidCarter93:
You may, or may not, already be aware but there are XDA forums added for the following if you'd like to add them into the Fairphone sections in the OP aswell...

Fairphone 3/3+

Fairphone 4
[General Topics] HippoMan:
"That's one small step for a hippopotamus ..."

"... and a giant leap for all hippo-kind."

My alternate signature message is ...

"Take a hippopotamus to lunch today."
[General Topics] HippoMan:
I've been considering the pinephone, and I've been doing some investigation.

I've come across some complaints that it's rather slow due to only having 4 cores. It's been reported, for example, that Firefox takes one user something like 20 seconds to launch.

I couldn't tell from the reports if this perhaps could be due to the pinephones in question having been older versions ... or perhaps if this could be due to the choice of OS that was installed.

In general, what kind of performance could we expect using the latest, top-of-the-line pinephone with the most ideal (performance-wise) OS version? Does it seem sluggish? ... average? ... speedy?
[General Topics] SigmundDroid:
Good one, I really dig this one! :D

Not sure who to blame, 4 cores or rather firefox :unsure: Anyway, you're right, deserves some consideration/testing, will put it on my list. I just hope it's not as dev-focused like the librem where it really felt like some "embedded things engineering"...
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
@KidCarter93

Thanks for the tip!

@HippoMan

These are the geekbench bechmarks for the PP, and these are the benchmarks for the Pinebook Pro (the chip in the PPP is the RK3399s, which according to Pine64 is ~20% slower than the RK3399 chip used in the Pinebook Pro).

So the PPP's CPU is is about twice as fast as the PP. For me, on Mobian, with the terminal and a music player (Amberol) open, FF takes about 7 seconds to load.

The settings app, with the same two apps open (and FF closed), takes 3 seconds to load.

Navigating the UI is snappy, there's practically no delay while switching between apps, but opening apps takes a few seconds.

I'd say the bottleneck on the PPP is probably the eMMC storage, as opposed to the CPU.

Also, just so you know, currently the PP's (and PPP's) hardware hasn't changed at all performance wise (there have been bug fixes though).

On the PP for example I think originally video out didn't work because the USB-C connector wasn't done correctly.

I would recommend reading the wiki pages for the PP and PPP, if you haven't already.

Just remeber, the PPP has a faster CPU, but is has the same battery as the PP, which means the PPP's battery doesn't last as long as the PP's.

Yesterday I charged my PPP up to 80%, used it to play music for ~3 hours, and then pretty much just left it suspended untill today. When I checked the battery last night it was at something like 24%, this morning it was at 11%. So, battery life isn't exactly "great". I'll do a more legit test at some point, and actually see how long it lasts with screen-on usage.

(people keep saying Arch works great, I need to compare it to Mobian)
[General Topics] HippoMan:
Thank you very much!!! It looks like I shouldn't bother with PP, and just focus on PPP.

I will do more investigation.
[General Topics] HippoMan:
Is the "Pinephone Pro Explorer Edition" the only PPP? I couldn't find any other PPP versions, but I want to make sure that I'm not overlooking something.

Thank you very much.
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Yes, that is the only one currently.
[General Topics] HippoMan:
Thank you. And one more question:

Can the PPP connect to the United States T-Mobile network?
[General Topics] espionage724:
I'm surprised OnePlus 6 wasn't mentioned yet :p

It has LineageOS, Ubuntu Touch, postmarketOS, and even Windows ARM with Renegade Project. I haven't tested postmartketOS myself on OP6 yet (someone did recently with good detail), but I did Windows: https://xdaforums.com/t/windows-arm64-on-enchilada.4302911/page-3#post-89371050

Running stuff on Linux is cool and all, but having native ARM Windows with legit Battle.net native ARM World of Warcraft running 50-60 FPS was surprising to see actually work well :p
[General Topics] m0han:
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[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
According to this and this, yes. (those are on the PP wiki, but the PPP uses the same modem, so that's what the PPP wiki points to)

I will admit, I haven't used the PPP as an actual "phone" phone yet. I ordered a sim for it and it should be coming shortly, so I'll see how it goes.

Also, kind of unrelated, but here's a picture I took with the PPP of a glacier in Alaska, cropped slightly to remove the back of people's heads. It looks like it's from the early 2000's, but it does work. :ROFLMAO:

View attachment 6125995
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Well, this thread hasn't been super popular. I think you're only the fifth person to post in it.

Yeah, it is one of the best Android phones to run Linux on.

The original post hasn't been updated in a long time, I really need to edit it.

Personally, I'm not really into Windows, but that is pretty cool.
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Yeah, that's something Ubuntu touch, and I guess LuneOS, use. I don't really know anything about it though. Here's their main page.
[General Topics] HippoMan:
Thank you very much. Fortunately for me, I don't use my phone camera very much, and this photo quality is good enough for me.

And thank you very much for letting me know that the PP modem works, so therefore, the PPP modem should also work.

Another question: do I have to separately buy the modem for the PPP?
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
👍

No, the modem is soldered to the motherboard, you don't have to get it separately.
[General Topics] HippoMan:
OK! Thank you!

I misunderstood the earlier message where you said that you ordered a SIM. In my tiredness and because of my skimming the message, it incorrectly registered in my mind as your ordering a "modem". I apologize.

I have now ordered the PPP, and I'm eager to receive it!
[General Topics] HippoMan:
My PPP arrived today, earlier than originally scheduled!

And now I realize that it won't do much of anything until I install a kernel and the OS ... and maybe also install a bootloader (???).

Is there a good website for walking us through these installations and perhaps for suggesting a kernel and comparing available OS versions?

I couldn't find any site like that yet, but I'll spend more time searching over the weekend.
[General Topics] SigmundDroid:
Ohmy, I know that feeling from my Librem5 :D I like the PMOS wiki for starting, has some links and generally it gives me enough keywords for further research.

Really looking forward to see how you get along with this little thing :love:
[General Topics] dcarvil:
Start here: https://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/PinePhone_Pro#First_time_setup
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
That's exactly what I was going to say, 👍
[General Topics] HippoMan:
Oh! I missed this "First time setup" section.

Thanks to both of you!
[General Topics] ethical_haquer:
Yeah, that wiki page is pretty good. Let me know if you have any questions, and keep us updated!
[Google Pixel 3a Questions & Answers] wkristiant:
[help ..pixel 3a can't connect my pc in adb mode ...but my phone cant connect in mode fastboot
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] State.of.mind:
Rooted P7P. Is there a fix for the random Bluetooth disconnects? The connection always drops when it's connected to my Samsung smartwatch
[Nothing Phone 1] MakDroid:
Very excited to announce my first unofficial build for NP1

Why Paranoid Android?

Paranoid Android is probably one of the best Custom ROM with the main focus on stability and performance all while keeping the UI simple to provide an OEM like experience. PA builds are based on the Code Linaro Organization Android base, which is optimized for Qualcomm platforms and has a higher degree of performance, battery life, and functionality compared to the Android Open Source Project platform. The Paranoid Android team and contributors have always focused on squashing existing bugs, and implementing and improving features, performance, and stability. They dedicated to providing a user experience with the stability that you can expect from stock ROMs with best-in-class performance and features to help you get the most out of your device.

What's Different in these builds?

To be honest, nothing major as this is the very first time that I am trying out building custom roms. Here's something to start with.

Note: I am not a developer by any means who can contribute these immensely talented and very helping team of PA. I just want to learn more about building ROMs and hopefully add along some useful features that I see fit for my daily use.

If you like the amazing work by Paranoid Android Team, you can donate to them using the link below:

Donate

Download - Sourceforge

Instructions

Device-specific issues

Kernel Source

Credits:

Whole AOSPA Team - Link to official build

Cheers and #StayParanoid
[Nothing Phone 1] MakDroid:
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[Nothing Phone 1] MakDroid:
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[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
Is there a way by which it can be enabled in the existing official build?

edit: Like it doesnt make sense to have a new build if that can be done. So ignroe my question
[Nothing Phone 1] MakDroid:
You'll have to root and use pixelify module with magisk. The devs of the PA team have clearly mentioned they'll never add the Google photos spoof in official builds.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
pixelify for enabling nothing camera?

And afaik i have seen people say in Beta 1, there was spoof enabled.
[Nothing Phone 1] MakDroid:
Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. I don't know why I thought of Google photos spoof. As for the Nothing Camera, it is there in the source but not in the builds. A reference to include it is already there in the sources but just commented out. I simply removed it from comments before building.
[Nothing Phone 1] hemanth.k:
thanks for the clarification. on the side note, is it possible to enable the spoofing part while building so rooting isnt needed?
[Nothing Phone 1] MakDroid:
That's exactly the reason why my build exists. My build has the spoofing and Nothing Camera. No need to root.
[Nothing Phone 1] yarrou:
is there a problem with the microphone when making a phone call on the latest build?
[Nothing Phone 1] merahul1992@gmail.com:
i guess it's now best time to build your unofficial PA. As PA topaz 3 have fixed almost everything for nothing phone. the actual PA is missing unlimited storage and NTcam. They have fixed mic. Even now nothing phone integrated barcode scanner in NTcam so no other Google cam required.
[Nothing Phone 1] Askael:
Any update?
[LG V50 ThinQ Questions & Answers] YB123:
Please give a link to the botloader driver for lg v50 thankq 5g L-v450vm thanks!
[LG V50 ThinQ Questions & Answers] YB123:
Already on 2 PCs I tried it does not see the phone in bootloader mode
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
:confused::confused::confused:

I have this comm manager that I found from the forums a while back.. It was made my MFRAZZ... This installs correctly and works fine... However, I wanted to change the color of the buttons from blue to a maroon color that fades to black to match the theme on my phone

I opened the cab file and found quite a few files and an XML file... I found out the the other files were actually .png files renamed. I renamed them to ] .PNG and used Gimp to edit the pictures. I then renamed the files back to the origional file extension and used winrar to make it back into .cab.

I have a pic of the comm manger below, a pic of the error message and a pic of my current theme listed below. I also have the comm manager made by MFRAZZ and the comm manager I have edited attached below. They are clearly labeled.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Maybe you could enlighten me on what I did wrong.

This is not an issue where the comm manager is open or running in the background. I think I might have done something to the files when editing them to change their colors. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Picture titled Comm manager: This is the comm manager successfully installed to my device. This shows the blue Icons which I have changed to maroon.

Picture titled Unsuccessful: Error when I try to install the new edited comm manger.

Cab file titled Touch Comm Manager: The blue comm manger made by MFRAZZ

Cab file titled Comm Manager Maroon: The comm manager that I edited the picture colors and which will not install to my Device.
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Help??

So no one interest in helping someone out?
[General Questions and Answers] Ather:
you cant simply repack the cab with winrar ;), you need to sign the Comm Manager with Certificates, search the ofrum for msigner, download it and sign the comm manager with it and then hopefully you'r good to go
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Do i run msigner on the cab file or do i run it on the individual files packed into the cab file? thanks
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Msigner

Alright, this is what i got when using msigner on the cab file as well on the individual files inside of the cab file.... Looks like I'm doing something wrong.. Heres the error message

Error: Signing Failed. Result = 800b0003, (-2146762749)

I only found 2 threads on this error message while using msigner. Neither one was successful at helping me with my issue.

Thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
I searched some other forums on signing cab files as well as my best friend.... GOOGLE. It appears that im going to need a windows mobile 6 sdk and a program called MSDN.. Is this correct? Is there an easer way to do this?
[General Questions and Answers] Ather:
i think it misses the Certificates, make sure you dnt take the EXE out of its root folder
[General Questions and Answers] joemanb:
Use MSCEinf to dump the CAB file (7th button from the left on the toolbar), then edit the PNGs, then repack the CAB with Cabwiz:

cabwiz "fullpath\filername.inf"

Cabwiz is included with XP, but if you can't find it, you can get it here.

the CAB does not have to be signed, and since you're not editing the EXE, it doesn't have to be signed either.

Thanks to Benthon for his wonderful MSCEinf. A free program that he continually updates for the benefit of us WinCE users.

J03M4N
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Ok...

I have a folder on my desktop thats says Msigner. When I open it up, I see a file that says Ssigner.exe. I can click on that and it opens up but it wont let me write a certificate to my cab file. there is also a yellow folder that is labled tools..... It has a quite a few dll files in it.

Any help would be appreciated
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Joemanb,

thanks for the software. Tried it out and it wont open up my cab file that I created. however it will open up the origional cab file... Maybe i did something wrong haha.....
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
*Update*

I used the program in the last post. it wouldnt readthe cab file that I created but It read the origional cab file from MFRAZZ. I put the origional cab file from MFRAZZ into the program and extracted the files.

It extracted all the files into the correct file format. All my pictures were .png. I thought I was on the right track. I went aheadand edited all the pictures to make them the colors I wanted them to be. I also saw a .mui file... and I saw comm.exe. I expect thats the comm manager. There is not .xml fle now.

How to I repack all of this back into a cab file?

Thanks in advanced
[General Questions and Answers] joemanb:
Instructions on how to create the CAB are in my first post :confused::

Type the command at a DOS prompt: 'fullpath' is the full path to the folder you dumped the CAB to, and 'filename.inf' is the name of the .inf file created when you dumped the CAB. Don't forget the quotes.

J03M4N
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Sorry. I get a little ahead of myself. This is my first go at making a cab file. if all goes well i might do this more.

Nice I read on later and back tracked. I noticed that the link provided takes me to msdn's website with a title of Cabwiz(PPC Only) there is no download option. IS cabwiz built into the Windows Mobile 6 sdk?

Thanks in advanced again
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
ok im slowly getting this.... HaHa. I used command prompt and cabwiz. I took the inf file and pasted it into the folder that was dumped from the other program. I typed it in like this in command prompt.

cabwiz "d:\documents and settings\rzrgs6\desktop\windows\maroon_comm_manager.inf"

it kicked back with this error message...

Error: section [CEStrings] key"installDir" - data value must be an absolute path, or must start with a supported windows CE DirID <of the form %CEx%>

confused on this, maybe a little light shining on this might help.. Any Clues?

Heres an attachment of what I have so far...
[General Questions and Answers] joemanb:
you shouldn't have to move or copy the .inf, it should already be in the folder you dumped the CAB to.
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
It dumped a folder on my desktop callled windows. The comm manager.inf file was dumped on my desktop next to the yellow folder called windows. what you are saying is to do this

in command prompt, navigate to the cabwiz file. Type in cabwiz "d:\documents and settings\rzrgs6\desktop\windows" for the filename and just leave the .inf file on the desktop?

What to type exactly in command prompt is what is confusing me.

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
Ok... I got frusturated with the .cab making process. I just took the pictures for the comm manager that I edited in GIMP and dropped them in my windows directory of my device.

It will keep me happy for now.

Below is my comm manager now and my theme on my phone which i created for Manila 2D
[General Questions and Answers] Hackest:
I'd like to help but it's hardfor me to describe it in english(my english is poor).I suggest that you can open it by winrar,see what it likes.And you can search it on google.
[General Questions and Answers] brndnddge:
I appreciate everyones help.

I used WinCE to unpack the .cab file. It left me with a windows folder on my desktop with a bunch of .png files. I edited those from blue to the maroon fading black. The windows folder also had a .dll file a .mui file and the comm manager.exe file.

Next to the yellow windows folder I saw a .inf file which was dumped from the origional cab file. I expect this was the .xml installation file that was packaged in the origional cab.

Heres what I did. I searched and found Cabwiz and a few other cab making programs. I tried them all out with no success. I keep trying to use cabwiz as I fell it will do what I want. The only think is, I get an error when using Cabwiz which is in an earler post.

For now I gave up.... :( I just took the .png files that I edited in Gimp and copied them over to my windows Directory on my phone. I soft reset and the icons on my comm manager are the way that I want them to be :)

If someone could help me actually in the making of this file or just get me back on my feet and try again. I want to understand what it is that I am doing wrong.

Thanks