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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
And yet here you are discussing now.

It's simple technical facts. Again, if you want more camera lip protection, you will need to accept more rocking or a thicker overall case. With cases that have extra camera lip protection, when placing the phone on its back on a hard flat surface, the rocking can almost always be reproduced by pressing firm enough in the top left hand region/corner.

EDIT: a quick search on Amazon regarding one of the cases you quote that "do not make the phone rock at all":

https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Thin-Designed-Galaxy-Ultra/dp/B0BT2H9WJN

I remember I did quite a lot of research regarding this for the S21 Ultra, and perhaps one of the only ways to avoid the above is by doing this or similar (I actually got this case for the S21 Ultra, but unfortunately found it too slippery):

https://www.amazon.com/Ringke-Onyx-Fingerprint-Comfortable-Shockproof/dp/B08RZ7GYWS

But even with this, technically the case is thicker (and heavier) in at least some parts!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] anil84:
Using Spigen Liquid Air, Ringke Fusion, ESR kickstand

all protect well

Official clear case or strap one doesn't give desired protection

looking for not attached lens protector which need not be sticked, are there any?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
Another issue I noticed with the Liquid Air case is that it often attracts little white dust particles. Do you notice that too? I think it's the little creases that somehow attracts/traps them.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
The official clear case is so hard to remove that I feel it might end up peeling paint off someday at the botton someday if not careful enough..!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I bought a leather case using Samsung shop. The case has heavy scratch marks on the body as well as on top right out of the box(probably previously used by someone in other countries and was returned, Samsung India Imported it, it cannot be a manufacturing defect looking at the abysmal marks).

Initiated a return providing pictures of it, invoice, Samsung box displaying serial no of it the very next day.

Samsung is rejecting return saying they must get the photo of the plastic polybag as well😵‍💫. Never in any of my ecommerce purchases irrespective of any site I ever kept the outer polybag bcoz it was never ever required for any return and I discard it immediately. The Samsung shop polybag was dirty as well (with birdsh*t or whatever) so discarded it immediately too. A few emails to cc, service head etc. have been useless so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dpk1:
Samsung customer service has always been poor in our country. The samsung shop online customer service is more or less a scam! Service head will definitely provide resolution but it will take time and multiple emails.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
2nd that.

That I'm not so sure of. The ethics have changed for the worse over the last few years even from service head's side. The ones handling the emails from SH got habituated with simply passing the ball to CC side and the issue technically remains with the headache called customer care.

Sending emails to some heads, playing with twitter handle, emailing CEO might be helpful but don't have the energy for a simple phone case return..
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Abhi117:
Installed TP Link Archer AX10 & enabled Wifi 6 & connected.

All the Wifi issues has been resolved. Connecting & working flawlessly for now. Only issue is it disconnects on its own when idle for 15 minutes or so - maybe it's a battery saving feature, don't know. Overall good performance by AX10 - even on 2.4 GHz easily getting 120 Mbps upload & download.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
"AWC8" build with April sec. patch rolling out.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] praveen6585:
Which colour had you ordered? I have ordered the green one. Hope i don't end up with the same issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Camel.

Doesn't matter which color, if Samsung ships a used one or such the rest will be a pain.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] praveen6585:
Thanks for the heads up about your ordeal. I will retain all packaging and probably take a selfie with the delivery boy as well for proof!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
@Dpk1 @praveen6585

The so called service head handle also rejected the return finally without even reading(evident from their bot-style & out of context responses) the elaborated emails from my end for the simple reason that I didn't keep the dirty polybag they used for shipping even though all other matching proof I provided that clearly states every detail required for a return.

Wonder how low & pathetic a company can be @ their after sales support!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Imagine buying 23U from the S. portal/app and getting a unit with manufacturing issues or such(in case) and then trying for a return request! Offline-wise it's possible for a DOA claim with a week long struggle in the service center but online I don't even want to imagine.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Update:

@Dpk1 @praveen6585

Managed to get a Samsung zonal head's Samsung email id as well as CEO's Samsung email id from an "inside source", copy pasted the email content(along with the pics) that I sent to Samsung CC/service head earlier and sent to zonal head keeping CEO's id in CC. I did not forget to attach the junk email responses received from CC and service head's handle in the last few days.

To my suprise(kind of) within hours not only I got a positive response from that zonal head's side on call from a person acting as PA who was interested in knowing "what happened" with the received product, but also assured me of a quick return of the product and "fast processing" of refund once picked up. And then in few hours the status changed from "Return rejected" to "return pickup confirmed".

I hope no other issue the backend team brings up for a refund once product is picked up.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] praveen6585:
@Virgo_Guy Received my case today and luckily it is in perfect condition. Loving the fit and feel of the leather case. Especially when swiping from the sides.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
While the above Samsung case retails at ₹2199,

this Spigen liquid crystal case currently sold at ₹974 in Amazon.in is actually superior/way better based on my own experience.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
I'm ogling that case too :ROFLMAO:

How did you manage to get it so cheap? It's showing 5K for me...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Corporate pricing, using corporate id.

Overexpensive case!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
I used the Spigen liquid crystal for my S7 for nearly 2 years, and it was really nice overall - those clear cases still give the best grip for me. However, when I tried it for the S9+, I somehow didn't like it anymore due to becoming OCD with fingerprints/smudges.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Would you say it's worth the money?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Not at all, as per my experience and I don't really care how some youtubers are fond of this case.

No raised lips for the cameras, back is slippery and it's overpriced. I'm actually liking a few cases from spigen and ringke more +way cheaper.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Thank you for that input. You just saved me 5K!

I've already got the Spigen liquid air and i love the way it fits and feels, but i was bored of black, so wanted to try a camel colord cover...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] ssj100:
Not sure why need to reference how "some youtubers" are fond or not - whether one likes a case is completely subjective. There is no perfect case out there (yet) - there almost always are pros and cons for each case for each individual person.

I completely agree it's overpriced for this leather case though - I would never pay for it with my own money. However, I'm finding the grip is actually decent especially after more use. The worst thing about the case for me is the "acceleration of dust gathering" over the 3x camera lens - this is obviously due to the case "individually" surrounding each lens and the 3x one happens to be the smallest, therefore dust tends to get trapped there easier. It's even more frustrating that it's quite hard to clean the dust off over this 3x lens, as it's a relatively small "hole" to access to wipe the dust away. I'm open to any suggestions to help with this haha.

It's definitely an OCD thing for me, as I don't actually see any practical issue when using the 3x lens even when it looks quite dusty over the lens.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Recording calls without consent is a breach of privacy.

- Delhi high court.

Food for thought:

- Call recording is important for various logical reasons and not necessarily related to legal stuff.

- An iPhone would have been a primary driver(for me) anyways if Samsung didn't support this in India.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
It's 5 month old decision, Any new development?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
No new development afaik.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Probably they have introduce warning in India when you turn on call record first time after this news, earlier there wasn't.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Earlier there was on CSC feature line had only call record, now it also includes desclaimer

<CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigRecording>RecordingAllowedByMenu,disclaimer_india</CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigRecording>

So hopefully they won't remove feature but just added desclaimer
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
It's a disclaimer. What I'm confused at is where is consent here? Using a Samsung phone atleast the person at the other end is unaware of the fact that the cov. is being recorded, thus a "breach of privacy" afaik.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Best to just stay quiet and enjoy it while it lasts.

If it is officially declared illegal, legislation will force Samsung to disable it via next software update.

But if Samsung is still keeping it with on new phones and software updates, it's probably alright, or worst case, still in a grey area and not outright "go-to-jail" type illegal.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] linom:
True this. I need call recording for all my official meetings, no need to take down any notes while on the move. My #1 reason of continuing with Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
I mean if Samsung have decided to continue with keeping recording option with disclaimer then also fine, we can't publish it but still can use for personal use (mainly using as note taking)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] observingi:
Are Galaxy Buds 2, available cheaper at the stores?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] linom:
So I receieved an SMS from Airtel saying S23U is compatible with eSIM. While I know the process, has anyone done it and if so any potential downside?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pratik_193:
2 downside i can think of - if you want to move your sim to any other phone, you cant without getting a physical sim. 2nd is if you format your phone for any reason, you will have to visit Airtel gallery for physical sim
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] linom:
Well this is pointless then. I do reset my phone after android version updates. Not sure but if we need a physical SIM in such scenarios, why would anyone opt for an eSIM. What are the advantages?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Agree at this point replacing physical SIM with eSIM there is no enough reason. Specifically when you want to move sim to other device in case your primary phone doesn't boot or having other issue when you can't use phone (e.g. Bricked screen) you are helpless till you visit store

But in case of factory reset probably nothing to worry, as soon as device boot after factory reset it should detect eSIM and get your plan activated on its own (probably on basis of IMEI), this is how lte watch at least works
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Read above my msg

I think only benefits of having eSIM at presently is for those who using multiple SIM (more than 2) and specifically frequent international roaming

You need not to carry physical SIM with you but just activate plan from device settings
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Both these points are false.

Let me tell you it's a misleading info generally Airtel stores share to earn some extra cash in the name of "sim card cost". Don't fall for it.

Below process is the correct process using which I did several times whenever required. You don't need to visit Airtel store at all for physical SIM to eSIM conversion, eSIM to eSIM conversion or if at all you format the phone.

Esim Card Online Activation for Smartphone & Smartwatch - Airtel

Esim card activation with Airtel is hassle free with just 3 steps. Learn what is esim card & how to activate esim in iPhone, Google, Samsung & other devices. Buy now!

www.airtel.in

Note: if you don't have your email id registered with your Airtel connection yet, call up customer care at 121 and request CC to register your email id. Make sure you correctly spell the id to the CC and verify it from the CC.

The only downside of the conversion everytime is that the SMS service gets deactivated for 24 hours once converted.

If you format your phone, just don't erase the eSIM data, at the time of formatting it gives the choice to erase the esim data or not, it's that simple, nothing gets affected with the eSIM inclusive of SMS service.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pratik_193:
So if you format your phone or change your phone, you don't need to visit Airtel Service center or get a new physical sim?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
1. If you want to format your phone you have the option to keep the eSIM data, so why is it required to visit store?

2. If you want to change phone, first get the eSIM QR code (msg: eSIM (space) registered email id and send to 121, reply with 1 upon receiving the msg from Airtel, wait for the call for eSIM change request and confirm it and you'll get the eSIM QR in your registered email id which is valid for an hour. Get the new phone and scan the QR code.

I follow step 2 whenever I change phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sandy.parulekar:
what is the benefit of esim, any network-related improvement?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Mutiple eSIM networks can be saved in the same eSIM space, one cannot use the eSIM if phone is lost+ good for network providers/concerned authorities for tracking, SIM swapping is most likely a tiny bit harder for scammers as compared the physical ones, precious space is saved by phone makers etc.. - if we think about benefits.!

Network related improvement? Not that I'm aware of.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
"AWD1" build with May sec. patch rolling out.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
After months of usage, let's all agree to the fact that Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 for Galaxy is a fantastic, gem of a chipset. 🫡

Samsung should work on the cameras with updates, I have no other complaints with the 23U.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] praveen6585:
Yeah.. That is why i'm waiting for the Tab S9 series to launch instead of going for the Tab S8 series. The difference between s22 ultra and s23 ultra is day and night and the only main difference is the chipset.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Agreed. Coming from an S21U Exynos its a night and day difference!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bala_gamer:
Anyone tried voice over 5g with jio ?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Sukrith:
Same here! Finally gave up my iPhone 14 Pro Max... Couldn't bear it much more! Got very bad resale value (bought for 1.135 from Dubai, sold for 98k after 3 months). Seems lots of 14 Pros and Pro Maxs are available in the secondary market, imported or Indian that iPhone value, especially 14 Pro lineup is bleeding money! Happy to be back to Samsung and Android!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Welcome back. Any idea why the iPhone resale has dropped? I heard more people than ever are buying them in India...?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Sukrith:
People in India are obsessed by iPhones because of the "Luxury" it offers and so there are lots of UAE phones here which either came through smuggling or from asking a friend to bring. It costs 1.14 for 14 Pro Max 256gb and that is from Apple Store. But prices in Amazon and other shops are even less because there same phones are available even from USA at 94k. All these phones have flooded the market and all of them have international warranty that people keep buying them up. As a customer I will only think about warranty and not the area from where the phone came from and so people take loans and whatever to buy these contraband. When they can't repay or don't like the phone, they sell it off flooding the second hand market. Right now these are the prices of new phones in my city

iPhone 14 Pro 256gb 1.08

iPhone 14 Pro Max 256gb 1.15

Used phone buying prices (3 months old, imported devices)

iPhone 14 Pro 256gb 80k to 85k

iPhone 14 Pro Max 256gb 95k to 99k

Used phone buying prices (3 months old, Indian devices)

iPhone 14 Pro 256gb 85k to 95k

iPhone 14 Pro Max 256gb 100k to 105k

They'll add 5k to 10k margin and sell these off!

This is only applicable for the 14 Pro lineup and I know for a fact when 15 Pro launches, situation will be even worse!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
How the resellers sell these so openly+using instagram shops has been an unsolved mistery for me from the beginning!! .. as if import laws don't even exist. There are several cases of busting rackets of smuggled iPhones in the airports/ports etc. but what about the shops that resell these? These shops are everywhere in all big cities and there's not a single case of local bodies banning these shops from reselling or putting restrictions afaik.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Sukrith:
It's something very easy to do if you have the right connections and people to handle the authorities! At time of launch, 14 Pro Max costs 1.13 in UAE here it's sold for 1.35 to 1.38. Stocks are never available at stores, but always available with these people and depending on the demand it can go closer to the actual Indian MRP. Just think of the profit margin! Another thing to note is, only if you are ratted out, customs will catch you. Otherwise you or me can bring 5 phones and just go out of the airport without any hassle. If your luck is bad you'll be randomly picked, if it's good 1 lakh+ profit from selling all these phones! One more thing is, only sealed boxes have a problem. If box is in your bag and phone is with you seperately, it's fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
It being a crime, despite of "connections" & "handling authorities", these shops cannot run these shops with practically zero restrictions unless there's something more to it like legal loopholes or such right? .. several of these have multiple stores across India and abroad built up in a short span.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Sukrith:
Guys, my Google map sounds like it is sick now. Same issue I had with my iPhone and I did "move to android". What could the issue be?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Can you elaborate? I didn't understand anything 😭
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] xhanku:
This is so confusing and poor communication. Samsung Help is like talking to a wall. Someone please advise who have already purchased it
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] abhisheak.bansal:
I can give you, DM me
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] taalmart:
you can also purchase mobile in our website taalmart.com
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Referral code required?

Take this: REFXBYJK79MM

(gives 5k discount)

(can be used along with pre-reserve coupon).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Welcome voucher gives 2k discount, use the referral code instead for 5k discount. Put the coupon in the "apply coupon" box before placing the order.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Any local vendor offers buy back Watch 4 & /or Buds ? If yes what amount they offers

I have bought watch 4 LTE two month ago so don't want it if getting good deal for it

Last time with S22U some vendors were offering 11-12K for W4 (BT)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] observingi:
Thanks!

I got one from someone on another forum!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I made some calculations and felt that corporate price will be the best option after some weeks like every year. This time the pre-reserve/pre-book benefits look way dumber than the last few years and so should make the corporate path better for the phone alone. Take my words at your own risk btw. 😶
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] imaginewebstudio:
I ordered S23 Ultra 512 gb

I didnt pre reserved

Used referal

And got watch + buds2 + 25 watts travel adaptor + wireless charging pad + 8k cashback all for 134998 - 8000 = 126998
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] imaginewebstudio:
What was corporate price i got same price even referal was not working for corporate price
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] sagarb:
you need to wait till 24th feb till the product release. you will get 10k less in corporate for the price of the product.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
1. A significant price reduction that shows up for corporate employees soon after the product is market-released , not now.

2. Coupons etc. aren't meant for B2B sales in Samsung, so referral codes won't work.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] anil84:
what could be best in-store price if GW4 is bought back by vendor and S22U is exchanged

Any good store in Mumbai who can give vfm

@dr.ketan
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Approach multi brand small retailers for exchange and definitely not the big formats and Samsung exclusive stores, it's better in the Navi Mumbai region in comparison to Mumbai. You will get the best price for the accessories if you sell on OLX having patience.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nitinmits:
Corporate prices of S23U accessories
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nitinmits:
Referral code for Rs 5000 discount

REFXBKXP8XAF
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] twisted_mind:
Wow great prices. Never dabbled with Corp. Can you share how to go about it?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nitinmits:
I have to login with email not public type but like i have @mp.gov.in and @nic.in or other private companies like tcs etc. Then u can book with these prices
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] twisted_mind:
There's some place called cell city in malvani that apparently gives great prices for buyback. Have a friend who knows the owner. Will check exactly and DM you.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] twisted_mind:
OK thanks so with work email? Any risk? Don't want any panga with office for using their Domain email for such stuff
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Sukrith:
Sorry! I meant to say when I use maps navigation, the lady's sound makes it seem as if she is sick. I had the same issue in my iPhone and I transferred everything. Just wanted to know if this is a common sickness or did it spread from my iPhone.😅
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
LoL. Never heard of it. Can you attach a video (with sound) of the issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pratik_193:
Any good tempered glass recommendation available online and is compatible with back cover and fingerprint?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Spigen Glas.tR, haven't applied it yet in mine. But as per my own research it works just fine with FP and works well with spigen cases, but needs to be careful while applying. Refer to some videos in YT on how to apply properly.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pseudology:
is it worth changing from xsg to ins? i got my s23 ultra from uae
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Do you have call recording option in phone app - settings?

If yes then it's already have activated INS csc

If not, format data with Indian SIM inside

If still not, you can change csc to INS with some tool

Useful only for call record option + Jio 5G if not working
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] pseudology:
I don't have call recording but I don't really use it, and about 5g I have been getting 5g almost every where

What about samsung pay? I was able to add my cc but I haven't tried paying anywhere will it work?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dr.ketan:
If you don't needs call record then no needs to change

Samsung Pay should work. You will receive OTA when UAE get it not India, though most of time getting same time