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[Android Apps and Games] Thebear j koss:
So I have some questions about going pro. I have no issues with repurchasing new app or doing a subscription, but 1- is subscription monthly or yearly and what is the cost? 2. I'm guessing there won't be a 1 time lifetime (of new app) payment to go pro? I'm only trying to figure out what would be the best option for myself while not being wasteful but also supporting development. I mean 5.49 for 2 years is fine, but if there were an option for lets say 10$ for 5 years or lifetime of app(obviously no guarantees it will go on for 5 years) I would pay the 10$. Or I'm guessing you are doing the subscription/2 year payment because you are not comfortable making a longer commitment longer than 2 years of support? Just seeing if there could be another option so I don't have to remember I have to purchase again when the time comes.
[Android Apps and Games] Rokcy98:
I use it with root,

Things that are missing:

- uninstall/mass uninstall, at least for user apps

- freeze/mass freeze

- close/force close (mass close/force close)

- activity list and the ability to create shortcuts from them

- export apk

- clean data

I mean, sd maid has an app manager, sd maid 2 has an app list for now.

I don't know what's your intention, maybe you don't want to integrate a full app manager in SD maid 2, but in case you want, well, all the features of the old app are missing
[Android Apps and Games] hanschke:
With the new Update the settinge Button dont work
[Android Apps and Games] cdub74:
Anyone tried this on a Firestick or Cube yet? Does it work with Amazon Fire Devices?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
I think you might have misunderstood the upgrade screen.

It's currently ~5€ for lifetime, or ~2€ per year.

Anything idea how I could improve the wording?

It's a bit of an experiment, I don't have a lot of experience with subscriptions.

In general I think that a subscription is a better model for development because it incentivizes development that keeps existing users happy as much as gaining new users.

With an IAP you are encouraged to "chase" new users, add new features that motivated new users to buy an app, not such much keeping existing users happy that already upgraded.

Also resource wise it's the more "sane" model for developers to live on, as it's constant income. The economics on apps, e.g. buy an app once, free updates forever are brutal.

Most users hate subscriptions and probably wouldn't switch to SD Maid 2 if it was subscription only, so I also have an IAP. While worse than a subscription for devs, it worked out well for SD Maid 1. Though this is also an extreme example. Early pro users got 12 years of updates for like 2€?3€? Was only feasible due to how popular SD Maid is and how lean I could do development.

Buy the one-time purchase on Google Play for the convenience and for any extra support sponsor development via GitHub: ;)

Sponsor @d4rken on GitHub Sponsors

Support open-source Android apps.

github.com

The one on the dashboard in the bottom right right? I can't reproduce it. What ROM/device?

I don't have these to test, so if you tried it out and find issues, let me know :coffee::giggle:
[Android Apps and Games] hanschke:
The Dashboard Button work fine Yesterday in Android 14 DP 2 and today I got the Update and I cannot go into the prefs.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
I'm working on mass selection currently so that will come. I have created some feature tickets on GitHub to see which app manager functions have demand.

Uninstall functionality · Issue #30 · d4rken-org/sdmaid-se

Should AppControl get a mass uninstall feature similar to what SD Maid 1 had? With root it should work quite well. I didn't like the way it worked without root in SD Maid 1 though. We could try to ...

github.com

Force stop apps feature? · Issue #31 · d4rken-org/sdmaid-se

Should we add a feature to AppControl that allows force stopping of apps? "TaskKillers" are bad, so this shouldn't be a "force stop all running apps". What would be use-cases for mass force-stoppin...

github.com

APK export? · Issue #32 · d4rken-org/sdmaid-se

Does it make sense to add a feature that allows exporting APKs of installed apps? I think usefulness of this is diminishing due to Google pushing app bundles which are not easy to install again eit...

github.com

Might be an Android 14 issue? I'm testing on Android 13.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
SD Maid 1 will get maintenance updates (security, small bugs), but no compatibility fixes if Google breaks stuff or general improvements.

Couldn't reproduce it on an Android 14 emulator. :(

Can you force a debug log by creating this file:

/sdcard/Android/data/eu.darken.sdmse/files/force_debug_run

and sending it to me after reproducing it on the log?
[Android Apps and Games] hanschke:
We dont have to search further because I want do it and now the Button works 🤗
[Android Apps and Games] Thebear j koss:
So I'm not understanding the 1 time purchase breaks even after 2 years. That is what is throwing me off. So if it's 2$ a year and the 1 time payment of 5$ for life of the app or it will be 5$ in 2 years?
[Android Apps and Games] Fishawy:
Thanks for the refreshed release! Purchased the Pro to support the development.

A suggestion if I may - AppCleaner to run in the background instead of foreground, just like the old SD Maid.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
It's 2$ per year or 5$ for lifetime.

Why is this so confusing? You are not the first person to be confused by this.

I just don't understand where the confusion is coming from, can you help me understand?

A product can both be "rented" and "bought". Buying something is usually more expensive than renting it. Let's say you can live in a house for 2$ per year, or you can buy the house for 5$. Then break-even point is after 2.5 years (5$/2$) the moment in-time at which it would have been financially more attractive to have bought the house.

A more visual example:

Person A and B meet in a cafe and of course start talking about the new SD Maid 2/SE.

Both agree that it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Person A buys the one-time purchase for ~5$, because they hate subscriptions.

Person B buys the subscription at ~2$ per year, because Person B isn't sure that they will keep using it.

Then life happens. After 3 years they both meet again on the street.

The first thing they talk about is of course how great SD Maid is.

Person A then asks Person B if they are still using Android and using SD Maid via subscription.

Person B admits that they are still using SD Maid and paying for the subscription.

Then Person A laughs at Person B, because if they bought the one-time purchase 3 years ago, they would have saved money by now. But for Person B it wasn't about paying less, they just wanted to provide on-going support to the developer and didn't mind the subscription.

Then they part ways and never see each other again, because friends don't laugh at friends for supporting developers via subscription. :coffee:

Can you elaborate? Do you mean the AppCleaner deletion using the accessibility service? That also never worked in the background in SD Maid 1.
[Android Apps and Games] Fishawy:
The new version automatically opens the settings window of each app and - I assume - clears its cache. They keep flashing one after the other, unlike the old version which just has SD Maid open with a progress bar.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
That is always how it worked. Either you previously had root (if you still have root, this is a bug I'm fixing it), or you didn't have this feature enabled. If you don't want to use this just disable "Include inaccessible data" in AppCleaner settings.
[Android Apps and Games] Thebear j koss:
Sorry @Dark3n I was reading "breaks even" as the license breaks after 2 years, not user "breaks even" after 2 years of updates. That's why I was asking, I would've paid more for the lifetime subscription if the 5$ license was good for 2 years. I want to support development without feeling like you got cheated. And it was fair for all. Sorry about the confusion.
[Android Apps and Games] Fishawy:
Thanks for that.

Do Play Store and Github releases have different signatures?

I have v0.6.6 from Play Store and wanted to update to v0.6.7 (from Github) since it's not on there yet, but I can't sideload it on top of the Play Store version. I also tried uninstalling and installing the Github version from scratch, but it doesn't recognise my purchased Pro veriosn from Play Store and asks me to upgrade.

Guess I'll have to wait for Play Store to update.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Yes,

The curious thing is that quite a lot of people were confused in the same way. I'll remove the whole passage in the next update. This is what beta testing is for. To find out stuff like this. It isn't always about "just bugs" :).

Yes, Playstore and Github have different signatures.
[Android Apps and Games] rodken:
Is the ability to uninstall and delete any leftovers when removing apps on the road map?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
The CorpseFinder uninstall watcher should already work if you enable it.
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Is the GitHub version newer than the Playstore version? I assume looking at GH, root is fixed while the PS version it is not.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Sometimes lags a bit behind due to Google Review, but 0.6.7 should be available.

The CI deployed both variants successfully:

Release: 0.6.7-beta0 · d4rken-org/sdmaid-se@756b4a6

SD Maid 2/SE is Android's most thorough cleaning tool. - Release: 0.6.7-beta0 · d4rken-org/sdmaid-se@756b4a6

github.com

and according to Google the update is available:

tried it myself on an S22 with Magisk and Android 13 and when running with root, no accessibility service was required and private app data results were visible.

If this isn't working please raise an issue on GitHub and provide a debug log.
[Android Apps and Games] Tzalim:
I hope this has not been said, if it has, I'm sorry... So, I already have SD Maid 1 and the pro addon. I just installed SD Maid 2. So, I have to buy the pro addon to SD Maid 2? I guess I'm confused a little bit. I'm happy to get the SD Maid 2 pro addon too. Thx
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
You can buy the pro version in the SD Maid SE app. There is no separate app.
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Not showing up for me on PS. Though I don't mind. Google is going to Google.....

Oh, I do have it.

Is this normal?
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Ok, so this stuff SD Maid SE I guess can't access
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Possibly same issue as this:

WriteException error while deleting deleted apps remain · Issue #44 · d4rken-org/sdmaid-se

Literally my first bug report on github, I'm sorry if it is incorrect. Screenshot_20230327-233529_SD_Maid_SE Screenshot_20230327-234046_SD_Maid_SE Screenshot_20230327-234053_SD_Maid_SE

github.com

Can you add a debug log of the deletion there?

Please add more info too: Versions? Phone/Android/Magisk

So I can try to reproduce it.

For the reporter in #44 i thought it might be a race condition on the "does this still exist check".

Does it fail for all items your screenshot?

If you click single entries, does every one fail?
[Android Apps and Games] giociampa:
My guess is that - if rooted - the deletions were performed without the accessibility actions being displayed (app info screens appearing, buttons being pressed, and the associated "SD Maid is interacting with your screen" overlay), so not a background task as such, just less obviously visible.

(Update - already dealt with... must learn to check later comments! 🙄)
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
After attaching files, it wouldn't let me type in anything. Yes, for all files. Can't delete them. Pixel 6 Pro, A13
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Thanks for helping me debug it! ❤️ Did you reproduce the error while the log was running? It seems like you just started then stopped it. It's a "recording" not like a "bug report", stuff needs to be reproduced while it is running, doesn't work retroactively.
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Do I hit debug first, then scan and try to delete the clutter?
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
So I hit debug first and then used the app. Sorry if I'm.not doing this correctly.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Yes, it's like a video, just of SD Maid, in code form.

Maybe I have a bug in the debuglog code?

Timestamp starts at:

2023-03-29T16:37:33.732Z

ends at

2023-03-29T16:41:48.254Z

That's 4 minutes, did the scan happen in that time?
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Yes. I tried it again. Sorry if I am a bit noob at this
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
4.3 MB logfile unzipped, 30k loglines, that worked :).

Then it's not a bug in my logging code, that's also good (y).

Will investigate this now...
[Android Apps and Games] BROKEN1981:
Either the new app update worked and was able to delete that data, or the new Google update fixed it.
[Android Apps and Games] Arealhooman:
The duplicate feature is so good, consider readding.
[Android Apps and Games] Piliip:
Awesome, hadn't realized SD Maid was getting a new app. Been using SD Maid Pro since forever, one of the best app purchases I ever made considering the many years the app has been serving me, across several different phones. SD Maid always did exactly what it needed to do.

Went ahead and immediately purchased Pro for SD Maid SE, no questions asked. Thanks for this app Dark3n, and for the ongoing development and support. It's awesome.
[Android Apps and Games] forid200:
Been using v1 since forever as well and have been quite happy with it. Bought the new version right away, the new schedule option is a great addition.

I've noticed that DB optimisation is missing so I've still got the old version installed.
[Android Apps and Games] Fishawy:
SD Maid seems to be running after every reboot. I have it scheduled for a weekly run, but I can't figure out where to disable running after reboot in the settings.

Any suggestion would be really appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
The DB optimisation isn't coming back to SD Maid 2, sorry.

It's not effective enough any more on modern Android versions.

But it was booted before? So it's not like the system doing catch-up on missed schedules?

Can you record a log of that? Enable debug logging before rebooting, let it reboot and run the scheduler, then send me the log. Thank you!

Bugs

SD Maid 2/SE is Android's most thorough cleaning tool. - d4rken-org/sdmaid-se

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] italodance:
It looks better than original, but price is high please discount it a bit and same as first one, around $4 ok?!

I want to buy premium.
[Android Apps and Games] Locoman_:
This is Amazing. I've had the Pro version forever and will be getting the Pro version of this once its ready -
[Android Apps and Games] tkalli:
SD Maid2 Pro Appcleaner running very slow as did SD Maid1 on Android 14.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Logs please 😿.

Bugs

SD Maid 2/SE is Android's most thorough cleaning tool. - d4rken-org/sdmaid-se

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] tkalli:
too many problems with Android 14. Going back to 13. SD Maid working fine after going back to 13.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Thanks to https://twitter.com/maxpatchs 🤗
[Android Apps and Games] jemail:
I am confused about upgrading to pro. I would like use the github version and activate the pro options.

Is it possible to activate the pro options by making a one-time payment through the sponsor button in the github version, similar to the Google Play store lifetime option?
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
The Github version is honor based.

You click "Sponsor development" and you'll get the pro features when you return to the app, independent of whether you actually do it.

SD Maid trusts you as you do SD Maid.
[Android Apps and Games] ucancallmeFisseDK:
@Dark3n

Contrary to most of the comments here, I don't like that as an SD Maid Pro 1 paying user, I have to pay again. I paid for a life time app, and SD Maid SE is functionally the same app albeit updated.

I understand you need compensation, but it's fundamentally wrong to charge a second time, I think.

A compromise would be to let those of us who have already paid for SD Maid Pro 1 get a 50% discount if we upgrade to the new SE.
[Android Apps and Games] methuselah:
Well its history still goes since Chainfire Days like @Dark3n goes with sd maid . Bought this new baby too and thank you for years and years of beautiful work with rooted and non rooted devices work.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
You are upset about not getting free updates forever, but that is an unreasonable expectation.

You are not paying for a subscription to a service. You paid for an app, you got an app.

I'm not charging anyone a second time as I'm not taking anything away.

Try being grateful for every free update there is. :cry:

That is more reasonable but has some technical hurdles making it unlikely to be implemented.
[Android Apps and Games] emtee40:
It will do everything but AppCleaner, properly, but I had to install Shizuku, use TADB from my phone, run the Shizuku script from TADB.

Accessibility isn't on Fires, hence I setup Shizuku. Shizuku is a pain and I spent the part of 2 weeks to get it right.

AppCleaner will clean some with Shizuku (doesn't so **** on my phone which is weird) but the biggest hang up is trying to get Access to /storage/emulated/0/ with the castrated 'Files' app on the FireStick. The remote won't navigate it right and I even have the Mouse app install on FireStick where you click twice on play to get a cursor but it don't recognize it which I believe is because it's a system priv-app.
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
v0.11.0-beta is available and once more supports custom user filters for the system cleaner, with a new "chip-like" input and a live search that shows you directly what the filter would currently match :).

It currently does not have filter criteria for file age or file size. Should they be added again? I'm wondering what search use-case requires these criteria. Can anyone share their use-cases?

@emtee40

* Can you share a log and details about why Shizuku ist not working on your phone?

* The navigation issues are all within the system apps, or are there any in SD Maid too? Improving navigation in SD Maid is easily possible, like the cursor jump order, I'd just need someone who uses it a lot to help me with suggestions for an improved navigation as I'm not really using Android with a remote...
[Android Apps and Games] abagm:
As so many others I use SD Maid for years. Now I installed the new app. Did I miss it or did you remove the possibility to manage bootoptions of apps and the export of apks? I prefer Especially managing autostart or stoppingautomatic facebook-links and was happy that SD Maid made that work
[Android Apps and Games] emtee40:
@Dark3n

I'll see what I can do. FireOS is pretty wack to deal with but the native ADB is nice. 😉
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Managing "boot options" aka "managing autostart" will probably not be added again. I regret introducing the word "autostart" at all and I think 99% of users, probably you too, don't understand well enough how an ON_BOOT_RECEIVER works. Doing more harm than good when disabling various receivers. See:

AppControl

SD Maid is an Android app that helps you manage files and apps. - d4rken-org/sdmaid

github.com

APK export might come back, but I'll need to check a few more formats and other apps. The issue is that it seems like an incomplete feature. I can add the export function but Google doesn't allow me to have the permission for installing apps.
[Android Apps and Games] abagm:
Hi, sad to hear it. You're probably right: I do no understand well enough how it works under the hood. Therefore I am glad to get tools like SD Maid! For me it seemed to have worked fine. booting time and less unwanted links were okay, no broken functionality. Maybe you think about keeping the 'receiver manager' again? Exporting apk was comfortable but I understand the difficulties. Now after Googles blocking ( shame on them!) it' a new situation - hope you'll manage it in your way!
[Android Apps and Games] Mikirok:
For new android systems is better this new version than original?
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous-bot:
SD Maid terminated from Play Store due to 'Stalkerware policy'

The developer lost access to his 12-year-old Google account, too

www.androidpolice.com
[Android Apps and Games] Klaudas:
Works better(new version) for me on one ui 5.1
[Android Apps and Games] AnnetkoO:
Hi. How to buy ( exept play store)?
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
See OP of this thread which describes how Google version makes you pay while GitHub version asks that you pay, implying that there may be a way to pay through the GitHub version.
[Android Apps and Games] Oswald Boelcke:
Currently, there's regretably no Google Play Store version available.

SD Maid terminated from Play Store due to 'Stalkerware policy'

The developer lost access to his 12-year-old Google account, too

www.androidpolice.com
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Wow, thanks for that correction, and for the link to that well presented article. I had missed the previous post by @anonymous-bot (thanks as well). Boogle!
[Android Apps and Games] TGHH:
Would like to support the development and switch from my old Pro version to the new one, but on Github only credit card is available which I won't use. Is there another way to send a payment?
[Android Apps and Games] rsngfrce:
I own both versions and now can't install either on my new phone from Play? 😱
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Blame Google, reasons explained in recently shared links. For now at least, same version is available at github, link in OP1.
[Android Apps and Games] rsngfrce:
And still on Apkmirror...
[Android Apps and Games] AggelosGR:
I made i custom filter to delete specific files in android/data/ but it seems that android 13 block access to any file in there.is there any solution?
[Android Apps and Games] milewap:
I tried a new one SD Maid 2/SE on the Motorola Moto G32 (spec. 6GB RAM/128GB),and works great with Shizuku,and without her.Because the phone is not rooted...
[Android Apps and Games] Dark3n:
Google restored my account this night. All apps should be available again.

I'm happy to be back on Google Play, but still don't know what I did wrong.

Sorry for the trouble. Let me know if anything is not working yet. Some users have reported that Google Play Services needed force stop/cache clearing to resync purchases.

Some details and their email is in this post if you are interested.

I'm preparing a long overdue update :).
[Android Apps and Games] milewap:
I just read it even though it was installed old SD Maid,Google Play Store reinstalled again?Also a new one SD Maid 2/SE reinstalled,let me explain.I just turned it on Internet on my Motorola,and Google Play is automatically alone reinstalled both apps.I also read This Google about breaking the rules but it doesn't say specifically anywhere,why have blocked the account...really weird.
[Android Apps and Games] rsngfrce:
Just got an update to SD Maid Pro - Unlocker (beta) from Play store. 👍
[Android Apps and Games] tom1807:
So I am a Pro User of the SD Maid (1) and have no problems to test a new version and compare to the original version.

But I have a problem to test an early Beta version and for finding bugs I need to pay to figure out whether the app is working correct.

Settings -> Corpse Finder -> Uninstall Watcher: for testing this I need to upgrade

App Cleaner: After run, it found some expendable items, but delete them needs to pay.

SD Maid SE finds 86MB of expendable files, SD Maid Pro: 125 MB files.

This limits seriously to find bugs and provide a feedback what has to be improved.

Did I mention that this is a Beta version?

One thing I am missing already are the Duplicates and Databases like in the "original" SD Maid version.

I'll wait for the final version and continue with SD Maid Pro (1).

Edit: Compared to the previous version, SD Maid SE feels slow when scanning.

Cheers

Tom
[Android Apps and Games] WibblyW:
Any plans for SD Main SE to also offer app hibernation (force closing selected apps)?