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[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
Even though fb and WhatsApp are showing 1.3% are they being supported by other system apps thus giving a false efficiency? Apps don't always report usage in a straight forward way. The only way to know for sure is to test it. Accubattery's history allows for quick and easy SOT comparisons. Makes spotting excessive usage simple. Partial charges don't throw it off and I rarely charge to 100% An easy battery temperature monitor too for charging.

Dual Google/Samsung apps is another unneeded loss; I generally favor the Samsung apps over the Google ones and disable accordingly. Location is another persistent power drain; I keep it disabled unless needed.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bodomfan:
I have it disabled unless needed but my battery is way worse than before
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bodomfan:
This battery graph is confusing now it's added an hour on ,wtf
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
You disable what, the social media apps? Generally what I do is use Package Disabler to keep the app from running at all. I have zero trust for both those apps, I never install them.

Login by browser only.

Other apps especially system apps can have dependencies and more than one may need to be disabled. Google Framework, Backup Transport, Playstore are dependencies of Google play Services. I block the former 3 and normally keep Google play Services disabled unless needed.

Gmail, which I use is a dependency of Google play Services as well but lies dormant with Google play Services disabled. Others might cause excessive polling if their parent app is disabled like Framework. It may only be .5-1% @ hour usage (don't forget screen off usage) but it all adds up.

I'm not dependent on Google backup so I completely block it's apps. Merely turning it off doesn't completely eliminate the drain at least on Android 9 and 10.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bodomfan:
Nice I meant location is off unless I need it then I'll turn it on.but what you wrote is informative thanks 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
It's always been a mess. That's why I use Accubattery. You need to be able to easily see exactly what the usage is per hour. A small change is easy to see with Accubattery's history.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bodomfan:
Does accubattery work without Adb setup
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bodomfan:
Learn baby learn
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] blackhawk:
It does on Android 9 and 10. Not sure about 11 and above.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I know...it's so true that I'm getting scared! BTW, do you have AOD enabled?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Klaudas:
For samsung it's amazing😀. Yes but only tap to show. I have bluetooth always on with smartwatch connected for checking the time, notifications.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I've been experimenting with the AOD...while it's amazing to look at, at the end of the day it ends up eating around 3% battery. AOD is set to show only for new notifications and at this option, it eats 3%. If it's at always, I suspect the value to end up at around 10%.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] slayer03:
Hi,

I went on holidays abroad few months ago, and I noticed something strange about my battery life. From bad it became amazing, then again terrible:

- Just FYI, I have a S23U HK version, and I live in China. I usually have 2 sim cards. Still on Android 13.

- My regular SoT is 3.5h-4.5h with the performance profile in Basic, battery charged up to 100%.

- I went to see some family in Europe for few weeks. I didn't visit anything so I didn't use extra battery with GPS or other stuff.

- My battery life in Europe became... Super good! At each charge I could get between 6.5-7.5h SoT. It was amazing.

- Once I came back to China, my battery life became again bad, same as before.

- I tried to think what was different when I was in Europe: 1 sim card instead of 2, 4G instead 5G, and the network was... worse!

So I decided to test my assomptions (and I was wrong)

- I deactivated my second sim card. I got a very slightly better battery life, but nothing very noticable. So this wasn't causing the battery life difference.

- I then switched 5G to 4G. Same result, barely no difference, just a tiny bit better. So still not the problem.

- I still have 3.5-4.5h SoT, even with the second sim card deactivated and forcing the network to use 4G instead of 5G.

So I'm kind of lost. I have no idea why in Europe my battery life was amazing, but in China it's pretty bad. I have some other ideas that I haven't tested:

- Remove the 2nd sim card, to see if there is any change.

- Maybe the Samsung terms that are specific for China make something on the phone that use more battery? (Each time I go to another country, my Samsung account disconnects and must approve the new Samsung terms according to the new country.)

- WeChat is my main app for battery consumption. Maybe when in China, the app and other Chinese apps automatically have more background activities?

- Maybe Google Services use more battery because the connections are blocked? But in the battery stats, it's not more than before, if not less. And usually the wifi networks I use have a VPN, so it's routers' soc who handle the VPN, not the phone. So I should not have problem with blocked connections. So the problem should not be Google services.

Anyway, I have no clue. Is there any people who would have notice something similar?

Edit: edited some parts to be more clear.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
The answer(s) to your predicament lies in the points you have raised - 1) dual sim, 2) using a Google service-enabled device in a region where it's natively blocked, and using a VPN to run these services....Solution to 1) remove/disable the second sim...Solution to 2) live with the drain if google services are really that important as VPNs are notorious battery drainers.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] slayer03:
Maybe I was not clear in my message, I will check and edit if needed.

I wanted to say it's, since I came back I did deactivate the second sim card, I deactivated the 5G, and the battery was almost same (I mean still getting 3.5-4.5h sot). I cannot get the same battery life as in Europe. And about the Google Services, according to the battery stats, it's not more than when I was in Europe. And the VPN I use is directly in the router, so it's the router who does all the work, not the phone. But it's true that if I go out and use VPN app on my phone, it's draining the battery super fast.

So actually I tested all the first assumptions I wrote, but without any chance because the battery life is still bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
That's a bummer.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] AwesomeARC:
Anyone have wakelocks like this on whatsapp? Any ideas?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] matty100147:
Yes I do, for a number of months WhatsApp has been keeping my device awake, I read on another forum it's a widespread issue since an update a number of months back, since I've updated to android 14 a few days ago I decided to put the app to sleep and I've found the wakelock go from over an hour down to 8mins and all my notifications are still coming through
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Whatsapp is a notorious app that drains battery. It keeps the phone awake to get instant notifications. There's no workaround this unless you put the app into deep sleep and risk losing instant notifications.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
After the update the battery life is even better, unbelievable device
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nmt1900:
It looks like estimation algorithm is kind of "more granular" that before as runtime estimate varies more than before -even in quite short timeframe.

I saw significant decrease in estimations and then I remembered that I turned "Unknown tracker alerts" on. Estimates turned back to previous levels after I turned this feature off. It is possible that this feature does not have significant effect for heavier users who have shorter runtime estimates anyway (share of energy usage of background services decreases as active use rises overall energy usage levels while energy use of constantly running background services does not change that much).
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] AwesomeARC:
Totally 3 hours + of wakelocks..... crazy
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Long live Mark Zuckerberg
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nmt1900:
I have both WhatsApp and WhatsApp for Business installed ( to use 2 separate accounts for separating work and private messaging) and neither of these are doing this while I do receive all notifications without problems.

What am I doing wrong? 😁
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MMarkkk:
Use a third-party app. This graphic is endless
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] bodomfan:
What one do you recommend
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] esmaeil mohamadi:
Hello, my battery consumption is very high. If anyone can fix this problem(system ui issue), please help. Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Wipe cache. Your system UI is draining a lot of battery. A quick solution is to dirty flash via odin. It solves most of the problems instantaneously.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] AwesomeARC:
Could you take a screenshot of whatsapp battery stats? Thanks. Lucky you.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] trevzv:
You mean the full rom?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
you can download the ROM for your CSC (available on samfrew.com) and dirty flash it on Odin...Dirty flash = without factory reset.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MMarkkk:
- BatteryOne: Battery​

- AccuBattery
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
What app is this?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
For you battery nerds, how much is the gain using 1080p and light performance profile on the S23 Ultra?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] trevzv:
Batteryguru but it's not what's on the play store, I downloaded it from the official website
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] matty100147:
8hrs screen time over 2 days, very impressive one ui 6, one ui 5 could get no more than 6hrs over 36hrs
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] AwesomeARC:
So far so good......5 hours sot and at 50%..... let's see ...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] MMarkkk:
- BatteryOne: Battery​

- AccuBattery

Not since the last full charge. Shows by days ???
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Quite a bit..but why?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
Cause the performance setting is hardly noticeable at all. From what I've read it only activates/deactivates the minor overclock these chips have in the S23 Ultra.

Resolution is fairly noticeable when directly comparing them, but my eyes quickly adjust to 1080p.

So if the battery life gain is 10% I can live with it. If 5% or less I will probably go full juice.

I'm currently sitting at 72% after 3 hours of SOT and 17 hours since last full charge.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Your battery stats are fine. Even by changing the resolution to 1080p, I don't think it's going to give you huge saving. But, changing the refresh rate will! If you can live with choppy animations at 60hz, the battery gains are huge. To me, the benefits at highest setting far outweigh the costs. I'd always run my device at the max settings than underperform it. Why pay for it, when I plan to use it at the lowest settings?! Wouldn't I be better off using a med-priced device that has a 1080p panel and 60hz (if I can find in today's day and age)?

Holding all things constant, at your usage mentioned above, you are on the way to a 10hr SOT from 100-0%.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] esmaeil mohamadi:
I found the reason for the battery drain and abnormal heating after three days. The reason was the incompatibility of the Samsung flip cover with Android 14. This problem occurred when I closed the cover. I removed the phone cover and everything was solved.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
Best battery life of any phone I've owned.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] trevzv:
What was your use during this period, videos, social networks, games?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] trevzv:
I believe that my cell phone has lost about 5% of health since I've had it, its autonomy is just ok, it's never been as great as other people's and I've always done all the procedures to have good battery health, I don't use a sim card, I always leave it in light mode and I rarely use GPS, it's sad
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
General phone use, YouTube, Sky Go, an hour of phone calls and a lot of internet browsing. Some on WiFi, some on data when I left the house.

Nothing too taxing but even so, 31% loss for over 4 hours SOT is fantastic whatever way you look at it.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Absolutely right. It's probably the best Galaxy Samsung has released in a long time. Come 2024, Samsung is going back to its exynos chipset. If they plan to ditch Snapdragon henceforth, the S23U will be collectors item very soon. Keep this device, as I see its value appreciating soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
Hearing only the S24 and S24+ will have the Exynos 2400. The S24 Ultra is widely expected to have the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 in all territories.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] enigmaamit:
I'm never buying an Exynos device again. I still remember the overheating, terrible battery life and sluggishness from my Exynos S21Ultra. I had almost made up my mind to ditch Samsung altogether before they switched to SD chips for their entire S23 range.

Samsung have had their chance to prove Exynos's capability with enough phones now, and they've failed every single time.

Encouraging them by buying another Exynos device is just shooting oneself in the foot. I'd rather buy one of the BBK devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
That's really good. I have debloated, use manual brightness, mostly on wifi, no gps, little bluetooth, light performance mode, 120hz, 1440p.

Still use 8-10% per hour of SOT on average, so not really sure what I can do to reach your numbers.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
To be fair it does vary for me, I just noticed the SOT and percentage yesterday and realised how good it was so took a screenshot. But a lot of the time I would expect 7-8 hours SOT with around 30% remaining at the end of the day so similar to you.

Install Galaxy Max Hz. Even the free version will take your refresh rate down to 60hz when there is no movement on the screen. That will save a percentage or two per hour I suspect.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Fl1nt91:
I have your same numbers, even with debloat and power saving.

Around 8-10% per hour...which is great anyway, 11 hours of SOT is unbelievable if you think at mobile phone few years ago.

I think that battery life depends also on hardware differences...statistically, some device might come out with a more efficient SOC and slightly bigger battery
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Exactly, we will all end up in the same ball-park area of 8-9 SOT. This is ground breaking SOC/panel/battery-wise. As long as Samsung doesn't screw up the ROM, comrades, this is a keeper!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] SedyBenoitPeace:
Yep, I read these rumors too and I'll probably upgrade if that's the truth, Gen 3 looks promising but let's wait for first reviews :D
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
Not quite as good today but still decent. I've also used the phone for more intensive tasks.

I'd say even with intensive tasks the least you can expect from this phone is 7 hours worth of SOT. With everyday phone usage that will go up to 8-9 hours before you'd need to recharge.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
After 3 hours of sot, and almost 3 hours of podcast streamed on wifi.

Magic.

Ignore averages. Phone is less than a week old and I've been tinkering a lot.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] KantmiS:
In S23U in adaptive mode if there is no movement on screen refresh rate drops to 1hz ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
That's just on AOD I believe.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I guessed so too.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nmt1900:
These 2 days are only ones inside last week where they even showed up in stats. Both contributed to whole 0,1% of usage...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] nmt1900:
Btw one other battery-related thing happened few days ago...

This wasn't phone battery though - my bluetooth handsfree drained so fast that I thought its' battery is done and I need a new one. I rebooted the phone, unpaired and re-paired the handsfree and this has not happened any more.

It was probably just keeping audio channel up and handsfree ended up being "high-energy bluetooth" device for a while. It has not happened again since...
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] AwesomeARC:
Mine....still high
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
there are several reasons why WhatsApp appears to have different battery usages - 1) The other person rarely gets any messages on WA, 2) The other person has a different/updated version of WA etc

A good way to reduce battery consumption for WA in your device is to link it your computer if you have access to one. Put WA on your device to mute and disable notifications for it until you have no access to the computer. Once you are away from the computer, turn on the notifications. You can set a routine for this.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
Trying to break that magical 48 hours on, 10 hour sot 😁 Haven't really tried that hard. Used my phone as usual, mostly on wifi, light power performance. Mostly Telegram, reddit and browsing. A bit of YouTube. Some listening to podcasts with airpods and Sony buds. Did wirelessly charge my airpods with the phone last night.

I use Bixby routines to activate power saving at 30%.

Have had sync enabled till I disabled it at 18% just now.

This chip is crazy good.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
How's gsam working for you...for me the app screws up in between..it shows the stats properly and then goes kaput!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
Can't recall any issues, used it for a week. I mostly used Accubattery on my old S21 Ultra though.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
I install gsam and then give up when it screws with the reports..force closes etc etc.don't know what's going on with it..even the developer seems to have gone kaput!
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Beefheart:
I love Gsam, but it simply doesn't work any more, or at least for me unrooted on my last three devices, Pixel 7 Pro, Galaxy Fold 4 and now my S23 Ultra.

I install it, apply the additional permissions via ADB then it works for a day or so. Then for no reason opening it results in it closing immediately, which then repeats every time you open it. You can then wait an hour and it will work again before doing exactly the same thing again after an unspecified amount of time. I suspect it wasn't fully updated for Android 13 despite the last update a year ago claiming Android 13 support was added. I've not tried to use it on Android 14 since I updated a week or two back, I user Battery Guru now, but it's a bit OTT for what I need.

I'd go back to Gsam if this was resolved, I much prefer its interface to any other battery app I've tried.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] DiscoThunder:
Just incredible
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] SedyBenoitPeace:
I experience high whatsapp wakelocks too, and in some days also without messages, I suspect is the beta version, do the guys that shared their problems here use the beta?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
We are all in the same boat
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] amirage:
Can you share your app usage? I want to know if you have this rogue app called whatsapp
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] SedyBenoitPeace:
I can't share my usage as today I used my phone with USB tethering so it won't have those big wakelocks, but for me whatsapp takes something like 2-3 hours of wakelock during the entire day (maybe more), but I didn't notice this on people that don't use beta (on other android versions too).

So that is why I asked
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] dancrow:
I have exactly the same problem with GSam.

Right now I'm using Battery Guru but doesn't show the wakelocks in the right way, I mean group it by application. This is what I don't like.

Did you manage to fix it in Android 14?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Thanos88:
Gsam will give the results, provide an update tomorrow. I'm currently on 3 hours SOT, 82% remaining, 22 hours off charge, 120hz, FHD

Can yoy provide screenshots of gsam battery monitor?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Dinosaure42:
That's some amazing numbers there! I personally had used Smart Switch as I bought it in the store and they transferred everything back, but, I was only getting 6-7 hours sot now I did a complete factory reset with just restoring calls, messages and contacts and that seems to have pretty much fixed it I will update you on my sot now but I can already see that it's gotten way better its been like 20 mins I have been on my phone and only lost 3 percent
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] chiquin2008:
Esta bateria do s23 ultra é incrível. uma grande atualização da bateria em comparação com o ultra-snap S22 que possuía anteriormente.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] creatinemonster:
96hz, FHD, adaptive etc.

streaming movies/tvshows most of the time, Bluetooth, WiFi, location everything on.

2hrs on 100% brightness watching movies too.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] EtherealRemnant:
... I guess I have to eat my hat. This is... wow.

With me not having to shut anything off, 5G active, even used the camera to take some pics... are you serious right now? This phone is a dream come true. I won't have to stress about not being near a charger anymore... like what? 5.5%/hr screen on average and 1.6%/hr screen off? Sure, Bluetooth is a stupid drain but it's funny because my Galaxy Watch 4 Classic itself is draining less while the Bluetooth consumption on the phone is higher than my Pixel 7 Pro. I'm okay with that.

Edit: Oh crap. I forgot. This is all on mobile data. Are you kidding me? My Pixel would lose like 14% per hour screen on with mobile data and 3-5% screen off... I just... wow.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] tobias14:
Bluetooth value is wrong. Just turn off BT for a second and then turn it on again. You should get much lower value now
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Thanos88:
Cam you show us the "app usage" graph on Gsam, also the "held awake" graph & the "Num times waking device" chart....
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] EtherealRemnant:
This isn't representative of my normal usage, normally there wouldn't be so much standby, but Battery Guru's usage estimation is about 12% better than my Pixel 7 Pro while having all the bells and whistles turned on for the S23U plus using mobile data exclusively while the P7P was on wifi, had 120hz disabled, and had 5G disabled. There is a major difference.
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] m3ath:
WiFi only
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] aureum:
Wife only? And without wife?
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Thanos88:
Fair Email needs to be deleted, replace it with outlook or gamil. Clear data, cache and uninstall updates for Google play services. Clear data for customisation service. Reboot device. Reinstall updates for Google play services. After reinstall, clear data and cache of Google play services again. Restart device. Use as normal. Also, as another member pointed out, switch your Bluetooth on and off, it has 26 hours of usage but your battery is showing a little over a day of usage 🤔
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Thanos88:
New software update available. General bug fixes and February security patch
[Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra] Thanos88:
4th charge cycle since buying this phone.

2 & a half days without charge, (2Days 12 Hours), wqhd + 120hz + performance mode, 12 Hours SOT. Activated power saving mode at 15%. Keeps on getting better