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[G1 Android Development] vr24:
I did a search and didn't find the software anywhere on XDA -

For those who don't know - you can have your exchange account synced with your G1 in real time.

The only catch, the software is $50/year - a bit expensive but I'm sure something will come out open source eventually.

The software basically grabs all your outlook data for your exchange account and syncs it into gmail contacts/calendar/mail - folders work and using googles send as 2nd email address - you can send mails via the G1 as the email address you use with exchange. It's really a pretty flawless integration of all your exchange data, quite impressive.

I've been using it for a few days and it works flawlessly - they have a free trial too if you aren't sure.

The software is called MailShadowG and can be downloaded from - www.cemaphore.com

Their support is really good too if you require it.

Sorry if this is has been mentioned before, I couldn't find it on search anywhere and wanted to share the info with others who may not have known this was here.
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
if all you need is the exchange calendar, then u can use google's calendar sync application to sync between google's calendar and the exchange calendar.
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
Hmmm. This program seems odd. I'm going to stick with TouchDown. www.nitrodesk.com
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
I didn't even know TouchDown existed.

A few issues I see with touchdown though - it only gives you the calendar events for one single day, and there is no real-time updating, you have to manually go in and refresh to get new email.

One thing I like about MailShadowG - is that, essentially, you are getting all the real-time push and same features of having your exchange with outlook on a Win Mo phone. Full calendar, contacts, and email in real time synced with your exchange.

Even touchdown admits to all these faults, MailShadow does virtually all these -

* Exchange 2003 support has some limitations

* Does not push email (but we're pulling hard for it)

* You have to poll periodically (please dont do it too frequently 3G downloads are rather drain'y on the battery)

* Calendar shows just one day of events (today)

* You have to refresh the calendar yourself. (the only time the calendar refreshes itself if you made a change to a non-recurring event ocurring on the same day)

* You cannot add bcc to email

* You cannot create or edit appointments
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
aardvark is working on exchange with full push capabilities.

Anyone offering anything that doesn't do real push email, is not worth bothering with IMO.

Push is crucial.
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
MailShadowG DOES do real push - since your G1 already does push with the Gmail contacts/calendar/gmail.

aad4321-

You might be out of luck then for now, just have to wait for Aardvark. MailShadow is an outlook add-on, roughly. So your PC must be on with outlook running. You must have Exchange Caching enabled as well as the ability to open imap.gmail.com to port 993 - if you can do these things you should have no problem getting it to work.

Do you get exchange at home as well on your outlook?

I was skeptical of MailShadowG at first so I used the trial, but it works extremely well, everything is near instantaneous - it syncs with the phones contacts/calendar/mail and feels just like real-time exchange like I had on my 8525.

However, due to their stupid 1 year license and rather expensive price - I'm banking on there being a cheaper/free exchange solution within the next year or so. Although I do love having all my exchange data backed up in my gmail which is kind of cool.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
I don't use Gmail. I use exchange 2003
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
The program sync's your exchange data into gmail and makes it accessible via the G1 - you are still using exchange - in fact, the email you send on your G1 will be sent via your exchange email address. A major benefit to this setup is that all your exchange data is backed up on gmail servers as well. Plus, if exchange should go down, you can send via gmail (setting in the mailshadow config).
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
Greta, so now I have duplicate emails everywhere, that I then need to delete form my original exchange mailbox.

No thanks.
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
Why such negativity? It's like you just want to hate a nice piece of software.

Your only duplicate is a BACKUP.. If you delete a message in gmail (on your G1) then that message is deleted in outlook/exchange. Heck, if you READ a message on your G1 in gmail, it will instantly show up in outlook as read. And vice versa. If you move a file to a different folder on your phone, it moves that file in outlook/exchange as well.

This truly is a pretty all-encompassing exchange solution for the G1. I use it for my business and work email that's on exchange and it works really well.
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
Well your work sucks. Lol. Guess you'll have to keep using the Wing for now until Aardvark is finished - and that is considering Aardvark even works.

It's a shame the company won't let you sync gmail with exchange.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
No, but if they're going to charge $50,- A YEAR, then I expect a proper working App, that syncs to Exchange dureclty using proper push, and not same half baked hacked together workaround using ANOTHER email client.

I think that's a pretty reasonable expectation.

If they were offering it for free, it would be an acceptable compromise for now.
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
But thats the thing, it's really not "half baked" - I would prefer a one time license fee and also believe it's a bit expensive for what the program does... but they are the ONLY company with a real exchange solution right now. And at the end of the day, my contacts/calendar/email is sync'd with my exchange account 100% with a backup on gmail.

I think it's overpriced but I have to have my exchange on my phone so I don't have a choice. Because of their pricing, as soon as exchange support is released I will be dumping MailShadow - if it was fairly priced, I'd probably actually keep it over a true exchange support due to the backup and gmail integration.
[G1 Android Development] somebody7:
I would rather pay (and I did) $19 for a license from Touchdown and have my phone poll and look actually work like a real program than what this program does for $50/year. If Touchdown doesnt get some things resolved like push (most important) or the options to see or open attachments/embedded jpg's, I will hope that Aardvark comes in where Touchdown falters. But as of now, I am happy with Touchdown until something better comes along....and MailShadow is not it.
[G1 Android Development] Mi|enko:
I've actually been using TouchDown and it's not that bad. I just set it to pull data every hour. One thing I'll warn you about is that it only pulls down data that hits the server after the initial connection and refresh. So, any back email you might have in your box won't be downloaded. Personally, at work I have everything on a 3 day archive, so my mailbox in 3 days won't have anything I received today, which makes it a non problem for me. But I have a feeling they'll probably fix it in the future anyway.
[G1 Android Development] jzerocsk:
It may not be "half baked" but a user agent that dumps the exchange data to gmail is not a "real exchange solution." This thing would get you all sorts of static from a corporate IT department!

If it works for you, great, but it's definitely not an ideal workaround by any stretch.
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
It is a real exchange solution. It may not be a real exchange solution for every company - but it is for others.

For me, it actually turned my G1 into a phone that has all my exchange data in real-time push. To me, that is a solution :)
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
Touchdown is extremely limited with no push, whereas MailShadow gives you all your exchange data - both in AND out of the phone in real time. To me, that seems like a pretty ideal solution.

Considering you are using gmail/calendar/contacts - you are definitely getting a "real" program with MailShadow.

I think MailShadow is expensive, but you definitely get what they say you do, and that is ALL your exchange features you are used to, in real-time push - on the G1. You can set appointments on the calendar, get multiple days, instant notification of new emails, integrates with your phones contacts, etc.
[G1 Android Development] somebody7:
Thats true that it doesnt have any push. But at the same time, I wont get in trouble w/my supervisors. Im in IT and we dont allow any corporate email to be forwarded anywhere (especially gmail). I work for a pharmaceutical company so obviously all email has to be secure. Company email going to Gmail is a really big concern for any big corporation, especially in the healthcare field. While I think its a good idea if its a small company or a company that doesnt care about security, it wont cut it for the others. That, on top of a 1 time fee as opposed to a yearly fee....its a no brainer. I change my polling to change by how often I need my email. If Im stepping away from my office, I have it polling every minute. If Im in the office and on my computer, I dont really need for it to be checked, so I can change it to every 5 or 10 minutes. I just hope that either they or Aardvark roll out push Exchange soon, in the meantime, I will continue to use Touchdown.
[G1 Android Development] vr24:
Yup, hopefully Aardvark comes out soon with a sweet Exchange solution soon.
[G1 Android Development] dwang:
I actually like the cemaphore solution myself because I can't access my exchange email outside of my company's intranet without vpn so syncing exchange with gmail would work well for me.

Not sure if I like the subscription pricing though.
[G1 Android Development] buffalosolja42:
has anyone tried this for a period of time yet

I was going to post on mailshadow but found this one. A can this be used with wm6? Can the solution push my web hosted site as well? Sorry for the late reply but I am also looking at away to sync contacts w/o exchange. I wish the m.google could do that along with sync with google calendar sync via desktop and that would be the ultimate solution.
[G1 Android Development] reuthermonkey:
TouchDown has PUSH EXCHANGE now

I just wanted to let everyone know that

the latest TouchDown release includes PUSH (ActiveSync) Support

. I've been using it all morning and it works very well. I've disabled exchange server polling, and I'm getting emails the instant my Outlook client gets the emails too.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
i love using touchdown .. works great .. i also really like that my work contacts do not mingle with my phone contacts .. touchdown let's you keep them separated .. i know WM phones i've used in the past would sync all your info to the phone and i absolutely hated it .. now on the G1 i can keep a personal gmail calendar and my outlook/touchdown calendar
[G1 Android Development] redmoustache:
k9mail?

How about the k9mail exchange support? It is free and working just fine for me now. It even looks like they are working on activesync support in the dev branch.
[G1 Android Development] Henchman:
The email app in touchdown kicks ass.

And the ability to synch your calendder as well as contacts, makes it a much better app.

I had no reservations paying the $30 to register it.
[G1 Android Development] shobbow:
How does the PUSH mail work

I have just installed the new version of Touchdown

it works perfectly, but how does the Push mail service work!!!

in a Blackberry the server updates the phone once a message arrives, but with touchdown no service is activated from the server, so how does the software do it??

Does it keep an internet connection open all the time? if so when my desktop is on and the message is downloaded directly to my Outlook, will it be able to get a copy before it is downloaded to my PC???

i have a limited data plan and that will make a big difference in my bytes consuption.
[G1 Android Development] LucidREM:
agreed .. touchdown gives full access .. email, contacts, calendar, appointment alarms .. works great
[G1 Android Development] kingblind:
50 bucks a year!! Give me a break.. I use Touchdown.. 24.99 one time only.. and it work perfect with Exchange.. Email, calendars.. everything..

http://nitrodesk.com/

Oh, and they give you a 5 day trial .. Just to be sure everything is perfect.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Questions & Answers] ercilsim:
hi guys, i noticed that my phone's "lift to check" and "double tap to wake" aren't working sometimes, and the screen went black when i make a call. therefor i downloaded sensor test app and figure out those are caused by proximity sensor stopped working occasionally, especially when i take it out from my pocket, i had to restart my phone to make it works again.

i searched over the internet and tried all the ways but still no luck. Action taken included boot to safe mode, clear the cache of phone app/ google framework/ google services, android ambient and etc... and i also reset the app preference, download sensor calibration app, factory reset, yet, the problem still appear. i have used my phone for more than a year, and this issue was just suddenly poped out recently.

appreciated if anyone here could provide a solution. Thanks

rom: stock A13

root: no

bootloader: locked
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] mavssubs:
They're just going to let you unlock the bootloader, no one tries to push this even though it is federally illegal. But, you won't get anything but hate from this forum. In a few minutes you're going to have multiple "Recognized Developers" telling you it's impossible. Which only shows the level of talent on this platform. Anything is hackable, if you know what you are doing.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] xunholyx:
If anything is hackable and someone can do it, the developers here would have done it by now. "The level of talent"? Please tell me of another website that has the level of talent that the developers on this site have, and also surpasses it. If it was hackable, someone on this site or another would have done it by now. If this site has a substandard level of talent, point me to a website where they have been able to hack into Verizon's unlock policy. No level of talent here? Then where is the talent to do this? It doesn't exist. There's no way. If there was you'd be able to provide a link to it.

Meanwhile, nobody on any website anywhere at all has been able to bypass it. I guess the "lack of talent" is world wide, not just on this site smh
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] AndroidAddict420:
Yea, the original exploit was patched obviously. You are missing the point of this thread. Do you want to be included or not is the question?
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] AndroidAddict420:
Not asking about whether or not it is hackable but the original exploit was patched from every Pixel from 3 or 4 and up. Do you want in or no?
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] xunholyx:
There's no way. The post I replied to said the devs here are weak. So I asked for a link to where the devs are better than here. There should be an exploit but there isn't. If there was we'd know about it by now, either on this site or another. There's no way as of now. Saying the talent here is lacking is an incorrect statement.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] xunholyx:
I'm not in. I don't have a Verizon model. I'm just responding to his declaration
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] simplepinoi177:
It sort of already happened when OP brought this subject up in THIS THREAD...

But @AndroidAddict420, I'd like to put forth questions; All previous Pixel owners and most users who have done the least bit research on the subject know that Verizon will not have a device (in this case, any Pixel past, present, or future) that have its bootloader unlocked (I wonder if Google would need to be included in the "lawsuit" as they are just being complaint to Verizon as a carrier as well as they even set aside a whole variant just for VZW, and outside of that Google doesn't really care to lock the bootloader down as severely as Verizon) -- therefore most of us have gone to merely ordering from the Google Store or unlocked variants from Amazon/Best Buy; the only upside buying from Verizon is being able to get on a payment plan attached to your existing cell bill, which you can also achieve and pay in the same rate if you qualify for Google Financing (worst downside buying from Verizon, outside of locked bootloader, is all the bloatware) ~~ So why should/would anyone go through the trouble of this class action lawsuit (when the circumstance has long been established [7 years]) instead of just merely purchasing from Google Store or elsewhere outside of VZW? I mean, I understand the lawsuit would potentially get Verizon to change the practice and the change would be nice for Verizon customers (purchasing the device on their payment plan to be on their cell bill), but considering it has been a long standing, established, relatively well-known practice, all these facts standing against it, what realistic hope is there for this class action lawsuit?
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] HipKat:
Wait, VZW Locks the Bootloaders down?

Who knew!!!???
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] jal3223:
Man, just sell the device and get it straight from Google. You claimed in the other thread that you are not new to smart phones, however it has been common knowledge that Verizon locks down all of their bootloaders. This has been going on for at least 10 years now, with a couple of exceptions that required an exploit.

You are wasting your time and energy with a petition or a class action (which will never get anywhere). All Verizon has to say is it ensures safety on their network and customers.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] justDave:
When I see some of the replies in this and other forums (looking at you FlyerTalk) I have to wonder if some of you are corporate shills on their payroll.

Most people know nothing about bootloaders and not everyone that does knows that some are unlockable. Ask the typical cell phone store salesperson or eBay seller if the phone can be unlocked and they'll assure you it can be completely unlocked for any carrier. Some might be lying, most probably don't know. Putting aside whether lying by omission is a lie.

What happens a few years down the road when I learn about alternate firmware? Or maybe I don't and just want to sell the phone - sorry, it's worthless, no more security updates. Bootloader locking affects more than just us hobbyists.

Security and safety? Don't unlock the bootloader! It should be your choice. They give you plenty of warnings while you're unlocking and every time you reboot.

Not to mention that Verizon lets you use pretty much any device on their network these days. What are they protecting?

Would such a class action succeed? Would it change anything? I guess that works depend on your lawyers and what judge they can get the case in front of.

All that said, I can't join your class since I've haven't bought a Verizon device since the Kyocera 6035.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] V0latyle:
I think it's important to clarify some things....

Verizon is not a public utility. They might be a publicly traded company, and a carrier under the protections of Section 230, but they are not obligated to provide universal access to anyone who wants it, nor are they required to permit unlocking bootloaders of devices on their network. As to why they would want to restrict bootloader unlocking, this would most likely be due to their impressions of network and consumer security; to a company such as Verizon (or any other carrier) a bootloader unlocked device is considered compromised.

They aren't "required" to allow the end user to unlock the bootloader, nor is Google, by any federal law. Sure, you can point to things like the Magnussen Moss Warranty Act, but there's a reason why there are massive ongoing lawsuits over the "right to repair" and "free access". Out here in the agricultural country of Kansas, there are millions of farmers who would much rather be able to fix their own tractors, but John Deere has made a point of preventing unauthorized repairs by anyone who isn't a Deere certified technician, using Deere proprietary tools, to the point where the tractor will "brick" if a non-OEM part is used.

So, it's my opinion that there aren't grounds for a lawsuit. I'd strongly advise anyone considering doing so to talk to an attorney first, to determine what your options are. Ultimately for a class action suit such as this, you have to claim injury of some kind, and it's unlikely that a court would conclude that your case has merit.

Further, I would strongly advise using absolute terms like claiming basis in federal law or case law, unless you can cite the specific statute and/or case.

Just be smart, that's all.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] Lughnasadh:
A lawsuit, class action or otherwise, would go nowhere. I don't see a cause of action. I don't see a prima facie case. I don't see any federal law, rule or regulation which would require a warning label on the box.

The best hope to have OEMs allowing their bootloaders to be unlocked would be through Right-To-Repair, or similar, legislation. I don't live in the EU and do not follow their proposed legislations, but I understand there have been some legislations proposed as part of a Right-To-Repair/European Green Deal that may require OEMs to allow bootloader unlocking at the end of warranty or the end of life to allow greater sustainability of these devices.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] simplepinoi177:
Maybe most people/not everyone would know offhand, but surely a simple internet search or smallest amount of research would easily answer the subject or re-affirm/reconfirm what may be advertised by said salesperson or Ebay seller... literally google "verizon" "pixel/device" "can bootloader be unlocked/rooted", right? Especially if most of those same people are planning on doing rather (more) advanced things to their device, they would be planning on research and/or information searching on how to unlock bootloader/root anyways, right?
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] V0latyle:
I have my doubts on right to repair anyway. This would ostensibly mean that they would have to make their own proprietary tools publicly available, such as they would use for things like QFIL...and while that would be a boon for us, I don't think anyone would be willing to compromise their intellectual property that way.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] Lughnasadh:
You wouldn't have to force them to make any proprietary tools available to the public. Manufacturers could simply allow bootloader unlocking from their end in some manner. And it doesn't have to fall under the realm of "Right-To-Repair" as we know it in the U.S. (supplying parts, tools, etc.). The EU "environmental/sustainability" approach could be used to support such legislation.

That being said, I think we are a long way off from that here in the U.S.. A long way off...
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] V0latyle:
My point was, unbricking falls under the category of "repair", therefore a low level reflash as performed via QUSB would qualify
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Ah, ok. Didn't realize you were specifically talking about unbricking.
[Google Pixel 7 Pro] 96carboard:
Except that the *issue* isn't whether or not they are obligated legally to unlock it, it is that they LIED and claimed that it could be unlocked, when in fact it cannot.

That kind of issue doesn't lend itself to class action unless it can be demonstrated that they systemically lie about this fact.