yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
No. The device is not rooted.

The app has some services that need to run non-stop and it needs to wake up the device every time there is a notification. I cannot tell you about the app as it is work-related, sorry.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Ah, i have no idea how your device works, but this may help: https://dontkillmyapp.com/
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
I've tried some of that but the system would still put my app to sleep.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Can you use Adb? Did you find some switch on your device that says it will turn off optimization.
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
Yes, I can use ADB. There is a setting I've just discovered and I'm going to try it, but I'm still interested in other ways.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Well… use the string
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
I will, but if you have some resources on this matter I'd like to get them.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
The Adb soulition is to remove doze mode,w high is a bad idea unless your really really need it.
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
Why is that a bad idea? The app is supposed to work 100% of the time. I mean the device is basically just for that app.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Ah, you could try it, but it disables dose for everythin, so that battery life would take a tremendous hit. If the device is connected to a charging source all the time, it would not matter though.
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
Yes it is. I know there are some tradeoffs but the 100% running time is the goal.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
if you’d ant, try it, but if you found a better way, use that. Do you want the Adb code?
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
I could use some help. I don't have much experience with this. Tutorials would also help or any other resources.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Enable USB debugging, Downlaod platform tool, open powershell in platform tools folder, give pc access to device data, run “adb devices” To see if works. If that doesn’t work, try “./adb devices” or “.\ usb debugging “
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
I was able to adb shell into it.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Does adb devices work?
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
Sorry I got no notification for this. Yes.
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
Run

adb shell dumpsys deviceidle unforce
[General Questions and Answers] grrigore:
Isn't this for testing purposes?
[General Questions and Answers] Arealhooman:
It is to disablw idle mode.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sahuja:
Hi,

I am looking for a way how can I toggle brightness levels from Minimum to may be some level that i can see in bright daylight. And that can be programmed to a key.

So you press the hardware key, it increase brightness. you press it again it dims the brightness to minimum.

Even Long Press is fine.

Suggestions please.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] snooginsguy:
AE Button Plus or HTC home.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tdusen:
this will do it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=413137
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sahuja:
Thanks very much. The issue is resolved.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] teledude007:
Can confirm it's blisteringly fast and the camera is amazing.

Quick updates.....

Not tested yet - android auto.

Can't make work - vibration notifications.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] tobias14:
Origin OS, I presume?

Any problems with Google apps?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] teledude007:
Yup latest Origin.

Full Google play etc. No Google stuff that doesn't work I've found.

Gpay working too.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
Not sure why but my gpay is not working.

Btw it looks like we can't remove some chinese stuff via adb without root .Which is sad.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] teledude007:
Yeah I found that with ADB.

So Gpay is odd. The app doesn't work (not ready yet updating error) BUT allowing my bank to add the card to Google pay via its own app worked and allows me to use it.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] tobias14:
That's great. I just hope android auto is working too
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vapour51:
What's your thoughts on the battery life with the new processor? Does it last a day after heavy usage?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Fantomasas:
What is the message or error you’re getting when trying to open Google Wallet?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] teledude007:
Not ready as updating or something. But after I added a card via my banks app, it will let me pay fine. Just need to choose Google pay in the NFC settings.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Fantomasas:
But you can’t launch the Wallet app and for example switch between different cards, right? Did you try to reinstall, delete the app data and so on?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] jhnbsomers:
Can you check the power consumption of single core and multi core in Geekbench using perfdog? i can lend you an account and tell you how to measure it. It's not difficult.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] tobias14:
Please let us know once you try android auto
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] teledude007:
Correct that doesn't work and yes tried that.

Sure, if you send the details.

Seems good but unknown as it only arrived yesterday. Will report back.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] jhnbsomers:
Sent a PM. Thank you.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] teledude007:
Can confirm AA doesn't work out the box. Not going to root yet.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] tobias14:
thanks! that's a shame
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vapour51:
Cheers mate. Its my only missing piece of info before pulling the trigger on purchasing. Seems to be plenty of reviews out there focusing on the camera quality

Shame about AA and Gpay though. Any other quirks worth mentioning?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Killuminati91:
Could you make screenshots or a simple screen recording of the camera app and all its features? Especially

Video mode: Supported Resolutions and Framerates

LOG / Cine Video Mode: Supported Resolutions and Framerates

Portrait Video Mode: Supported Resolutions and Framerates

Also: How would you root? Vivo still does not allow bootloader unlocking afaik, and the glitch from X70 and X80 seems to be fixed.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] unloaded1:
Does the timeline in Google maps work? Thank you
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
By the way is your phone ringing when you get a call on messenger ? I can't manage to get it ringing . It only vibrates with the screen off .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Maybe needs device first activated in China/Taiwan? Maybe needs IP here? Maybe needs to be registered on the account to China or Taiwan?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
How did you contact them with the issue?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
The phone is bought from tradingshenzhen, they already installed google play store on the phone. So it has been turned on in China for the first time... I tried with VPN (China) and I have registered a Vivo account.... But it will get here eventually... Just trying to understand how it works...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Well my vivo account is linked to taiwanese phone number and country. Maybe that's a difference?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
I found an emailadress of Vivo Hongkong (<support.hk@tns.vivo.com>) and they forwarded my issue to the correct department and that department contacted me via email: <service.global@vivo.com>
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
Yes, could be.. too bad I cannot find any software updates to download. There is a local update option, but I was only able to download some split firmwares, which I cannot use with the local update option...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Thanks for this. I guess any users who have bugs and issues can drop an email to these addresses
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Has anyone actually tested if it supports wifi -6e?

I guess vivo saved money and didn't use fast connect 7800 modem. Or actually it pretty surely doesn't because we miss ANT+ (or has someone access to the service menu meaning managed to install vivo service 1.5 first) and that's part of 7800.

However if we have the cheaper 6900 we still should have wi-fi 6e, but it's not mentioned anywhere so maybe the poor 4G/5G battery life is due to Vivo using some cheap Chinese modem instead?

So far only Xiaomi 13 pro and galaxy s23U are confirmed to having fastfonnect 7800 (and WiFi 7 support).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
I would certainly try...^_^
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
Are you interested in selling the phone ? I will pay 100$ more than what you paid. Just to never see you again on this forum .

This is a serious question . I will buy it if you want to sell it . Waiting for your answer .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Battery life seems to only be a issue for you. I'm on 5 hours SOT, 74% battery remaining with 1 day 19 hours without charge
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
Everything he ever said here , except notifications , are problems only he has 😂
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Completly wrong and you know it. My first huge problem was google wallet not working - I found out the reason and posted it but it cost me a day (who would have thought you get mismatches on google service with play store due to the vivo appstore having outdated versions and google play not able to update the component).

Battery life I've given many reviews as example - so I am far from alone. Even here on the forum others don't get over 6-7 hours SOT with 24h standby. But yeah it seems to be fine as long as you use Wifi all the time. One hour surfing on wifi 6% battery vs 10% on 4G - and 15% on 5G for me. That's just ridiculous if we would have fastconnect 7800 which claims to save 30-50% battery vs previous modems by Qualcomm. It's actually sure we don't have the 7800 because nowhere anyone claims wifi 7 compatibility (unlike Xiaomi 13 Pro/S23U). That leaves the possibility we have the 6900 fastconnect - which is quite likely because the X90 Pro+ supports some Qualcom proprietary bluetooth standards, but would mean we actually have wifi 6e too. Vivo just says Wifi 6.

The older qualcom modems only had Bluetooth 5.2. So most likely it has the Fastconect 6900 and the older X65 and not X70 modem and first appeared on the SD 8 Gen 1. Or actually maybe even not a Qualcomm modem at all. Its surely Fastconnect 6900 and not 7800 however (else they would advertise Wifi 7 - but so that means we actually have Wifi 6e)

https://www.qualcomm.com/content/dam/qcomm-martech/dm-assets/documents/qualcomm-fastconnect-6900-product-brief_finalv7.pdf
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Fully agree. Also on telegram or other forums people have an average usage of 8,5h SOT.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
I'm currently testing on 60hz + FHD, I expect around 12 hours SOT
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Oh wow that's wouldn't be worth it for me. I can't stand 60hz since I had the op 7t with 90hz🤣
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Yeah it's kind of sh** 😂 but just using it to see how good the battery can be incase I don't have access to a charger for longer than usual 😉
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
How on earth is it possible to still contradict everybody here ? Ive seen at least 5 dudes here , including me , who own the phone , telling you that they ( we) dont have any battery issue . You keep talking about this days later . Than you got issues with camera , os , modems , call loudness , updates + thousands more issues . You definately got some issues with the phone . Either you are a troll , either you got a defective unit . But id put all my money on the first variant if i would make a bet.

I am the calmest guy you ever met but waking up , checking emails and seeing xda +extremecarver text on my screen , knowing you write long , stupid texts you write everyday ... Makes me wanna slap you in real life . Im asuming a ban writing this text to you , stop annoying peoples here with your crap , stupid nonsense you write about this phone . Peoples are contradicting you every single time , telling you that they DONT have the problems you write you do ... And you still talk nonsense here instead of selling the phone ( to me if you wish or at least f*****g return it to the seller , get your money back and live your life) , or contact vivo's support .

You are the weirdest guy ive seen around in about 10 years of xda .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
While I could stand 60hz - that mushy 1080P on a 1440P screen is impossible for me. I don't think you gain that much with 60 vs 120hz as it's LTPO anyhow. 1080P will defitnitely improve things quite a bit. Actually I see not much sharpness difference on a 1080P screen vs 1400P - but 1080P on 1440P is just gruelsome. Interpolation of text doesn't work that well.

If I use Wifi at home/work I get 8-9h SOT per day, on 4G only 5-6h per day (18 hours max) - if I enable 5G it's only 4-4.5h SOT per day (14 hours in that case until 0 with wifi switched off) - 5G here is on N78 - maybe lower bands like 5G on 700mhz fare much better. 4G seems to default to B7 - 2600mhz.

The last trial update seems to have improved things a bit concerning battery however (but then it seems now bluetooth connections are sometimes cancelled to save power - so notifications arrive on my phone but not on my smwartwach (sometimes do, sometimes don't) - also sometimes now missing sound while notification arrives...

Today I had 7:40 hours SOT and am at 40% battery. BUT this ways with only 3 hours without Wifi. With Wifi I get about 0.5%/hour screen off discharge - not great but okay - with 4G data it's 1.5%. And the more data you download the worse the discrepancy.

I'm hoping dxomark will soon do a battery test of the X90 Pro+ - they have very good separation of on the go vs stationary.

So battery life on Wifi is great (except if you're at the range of coverage which was my problem in the beginning before I moved my wifi router around a corner) - but battery life on 4G/5G midbands with data on is the problem. Oh yeah if you have mobile data always on because your wifi isn't too good - then battery life takes quite a hit too.

I'm just testing how much juice it will drain to download 13GB via 4G+ (my contract has truly unlimited data, so I can easily run such tests) with screen off. Let's see.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
See those 2 screenshots for the root cause of the poor battery life. I was downloading a 13GB file over 4G - it downloaded 2.2GB in 19 minutes at -99db reception (that is full 4 bars but in some apps considered as fair or 4 out of 5).

It burned 5% of battery (actually closer to 6 because very quickly after it dropped the next percent).

If you use 4G/5G data and I think I have not too bad reception here, next tower is 200m away, the second next 400m.

On wi-fi everything is fine, but over 15% battery drain with screen off downloading a file is the culprit. I average maybe 10GB of 4G data per day. So that's where my battery consumption is happening. My P30 pro was needing much less battery on 4G in the same apartment.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
That is insane. My contract gives me 12GB per month. I'm not surprised you're experiencing "bad" battery life with this amount of data usage. :ROFLMAO:

Maybe buy a 4G/5G router for your home?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Well then I would need to pay twice the money each month for internet while being in Taiwan. Before I would do that I would upgrade to 5G contract but they cost twice as much for truly unlimited (2-3 TB / month seems acceptable use from what I hear on unlimited contracts in Taiwan before they kick you out)..

I usually get 50-60mbit on 4G, and 5G would give me 120-180mbit where I live (tested that). You seem to live in Germany or some other country where they rip people off when it comes to phone contracts.. Taiwan and China no one uses WiFi anymore it seems to me. Too inconvenient when you have great 4G/5G coverage and actually pretty poor speeds on cable/ADSL and fibre isn't available that well.

I also just ran the same test on my P30 Pro and it seems to consume only half the energy! The battery is 4200, but Nearly 3 years old and at estimated 3400mah left. Vs 4700 on the X90.. it needed 3% so that's less than half of the X90 pro plus. Actually it only downloaded 1.8GB instead of 2.2GB in those 19 minutes.. but that doesn't really change much...

Vivo has to fix the modem firmware, or have they built in some cheap Chinese stuff to save money? Can buy the 8gen2 also without modem (see Huawei who isn't allowed to get the 5G modems).

According to Qualcomm the 4G modem should be at least twice as efficient vs 4 years ago - so something is clearly wrong here and that explains why the X90 pro+ for so many people has poor battery life (considering this is a 8gen2 device!l and some don't even get 3-4 hours of SOT per day before they run out of juice.

Now this is on the trial update which definitely improved things!

So that's the culprit and I'm sure I'm not alone. The reason for the super poor battery life is that here everyone uses 4G and 5G instead of wifi. Something's broken here. On 5G it's even worse as I can gather in bilibili videos. And yeah surely those complaining also have quite a lot of data use. But other phones do much better.

And to keep it to the words of others here, this is a China only device so it should work according to China usage. And yeah that means massive 4K streaming on Mobile data every day because 5G was the death of stationary internet...

Another thing, I think in Europe you have fallback to 2G for calls and maybe initiation? Here it's mainly standalone 4G/5G because most providers stopped the 2G/3G network, only exists in rural areas as backup but I think will be switched off soon too and frequencies used for 5G. That could mean a big difference in battery life too with a modem that clearly malfunctions on 4G and 5G data use.

I right now have like 50 towers on all networks that are reachable, 2 are 3G one is 2G the rest is 4G and 5G from my apartment. It's piss poor if your phone then drains battery like crazy on 4G and 5G and you belong to the majority without WiFi at home...

That is I actually can use WiFi of a neighbor who's a friend but it's slower than my 4G speed. So I prefer using 4G. That WiFi is just a 4G router from a slower provider. but that is how for 2 days I tried using WiFi only.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Could you stop that mimimi pls? I guess you have reached now everyone with your comments and i think that's annoying for everyone too.

Also it won't make your phone better nor help someone else what this forum is usually used for. I haven't seen anyone here agreeing with you so you have probably a corrupted device and your Taiwan network sucks which explains that high battery drain. 120mbits is crap. With 5g i have over 500. Even with 4g my speed is about 300.

The modem is fine and the overall phone is fine except for you. There is nothing to fix!

I'm out of this nonsense discussion...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Well speeds on unlimited data are usually always slower, and that's after burst and not from a maybe preferred Speedtest server. Most mobile providers do traffic shaping and slow you down after a minute or so when doing large downloads.

I changed network mode from smart control to balance control and ran the test again, this time 4% so balance seems to safe a bit of juice (those descriptions are ambiguous, I mean to me I don't understand what's saving power when reading the description or title)

Seems balance is the smarter choice? Actually download now was much faster too, 4.8GB in 20 minutes but this could be more related to the network congestion and pure chance? I was connected to the same tower. Oh yeah it's clear we don't have x70 modem, because Qualcomm x70 supports dual simultaneous 5G data with dual sim but have to choose a Sim for data in the menu and not possible to choose both (or they forgot to implement that setting? But power draw clearly hints at this in no way is a x70 modem).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] PILLS2389:
We talked last week about the price of the Vivo compared to S23Ultra. In my country you can preorder for a few days the S23Ultra 512GB version for 1320E, after that it will be 1650E. I paid 1070E for my Vivo 512GB version.

From the few review's I saw, they did what GoPro does every year, they increased the FPS, the resolution and a few other small things, they didn't really impproved that much the S22 Ultra.

Now we have to wait for the camera tests comparisons.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
S23 ultra is a money grab. No real significant upgrade from the s22 ultra.

Anyway, loving this vivo. Once debloat is done, it's a pleasure to use. The camera is still my favourite. Screen is gorgeous. Charging speed is brilliant. Battery life itself is amazing for me
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
extremecarver reply contradicting what you said incoming . Brace yourselves .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Turns out Vivo customer service is brilliant. I emailed them yesterday, got a reply in less than 24 hours in which they said the next system upgrade will fix the notification issue. Happy days 😄
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Let's hope it's not just blablabla to stop the conversation with you.🤣
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
Good to hear... will this be the 13.0.18.3 version which can out in trial ?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
To be fair they replied very quickly, sent me very long replies & showed great professionalism. Time to wait & see
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
I've attached a screenshot of the email. The "question 1" was with regard to my first question which was about notifications. They haven't given a build number or anything specific but they said the very next update will address the notifications. In my reply I asked them about a ETA time, so waiting to hear back atm
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
The first few lines with a lot of 'sorry's' are also present in every mail I got from them.. ^_^

I also asked for an ETA...:
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Looks great 👍🏻
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
Last few updates, came about 3 weeks after previous update:

01-12-22 PD2227C_A_13.0.14.1.W10.V000L1

22-12-22 PD2227C_A_13.0.17.1.W10.V000L1

09-01-23 PD2227C_A_13.0.18.2.W10.V000L1 (This was my first update, I got it 11 january)

And since it is 3 weeks since last update... I was kind of expecting the update to be released today...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Maybe they're genuinely sorry 😆😆

Let's wait and see. A quick and detailed reply is always a good start

Maybe they were planning to release but got more feedback from users regarding other issues, so they want to do a proper update that fixes all bugs
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
So it is your fault I dont get an update today....? 😜
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
I only meant well. I was thinking about everyone, not just me. Remember, there's no "I" in team 😉😉😅