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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] V0latyle:
The S22 should be capable of running Generic System Images, so if you would like to try running actual AOSP, check out my guide here. Nothing is customized as these are directly from AOSP, but that also means they have zero bloat.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] vegetaleb:
Thanks

Though it looks like an update thread for Pixel phones no?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] V0latyle:
I made a mistake with the link, here's the correct one:

[GUIDE] How To: Install AOSP GSI on Samsung Devices **NOT FOR BEGINNERS**

For those of you who want the AOSP experience, here is how to install generic Android system images. This -should- work on any Samsung device for which TWRP is available. A GSI is only a system image and does not include the kernel. You can use...

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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] vegetaleb:
Thanks

Do you get the new AI stuff that are in the Pixel 7 Pro ?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] V0latyle:
I don't think so - I'm pretty sure features like that are not core Android mechanics, so they wouldn't be included in AOSP. I don't know for sure. Keep in mind that the whole idea behind a GSI - Generic System Image - is that it can run on pretty much any device. Google has been using this model since the Pixel 3 - instead of having different system builds for each device, they use a generic common system image, while device specific features are contained in other partitions such as /product. This way, when they provide the monthly update for Pixels, they don't have to completely rebuild the firmware; they can just use the AOSP GSI for the "core", and any device specific changes are separate in /system_ext and /product. It's a modular design that really helps streamline the update process; it also means that devices that no longer receive updates can still potentially run the latest AOSP core.

I imagine you could extract the product.img from the Pixel 7 factory zip and flash it to /product on your device, but because it's device specific, it most likely wouldn't work properly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I have had my Fuze for about 2 weeks. Never dropped it or anything, in fact I baby my phones to the point that the wife makes fun of me for doing so :rolleyes:. Anyway, right below the slide-out keyboard, I noticed two small chips about an inch apart from each other. One below the wifi key and one below the internet key. It also looks like the inner lip of that part is also starting to show wear. This is under light to medium use, mind you. I am thinking about exchanging it, however if this is a common problem, I would rather just get a different phone.

Add in the fact it took me a few days to get the phone exactly how I want it. Anyone else having this issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tinpanalley:
I don't think they would admit it if they were.

:D

...just kidding.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
As a matter of fact, I found those two chips!

I will have my phone 3 weeks come friday...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
You mean you have chips in the exact same spot?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alabij:
Unless you are withing 30 days, cosmetic damages are not considered valid exchange reasons. Hope you have insurance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I only had the phone 2 weeks. the guy at the ATT store said to come back tomorrow when a manager was there to do an exchange. Even if I had problems, I paid with American Express. My problem is if it is a design flaw, a replacement would only be a temp. solution.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcshrike:
After reading this thread I looked at mine, which I've had for around two weeks and I also see a small chip right under the 'internet' key.

It's matte black so it does stand out, but I had to look for it.

WTF??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dogyo01:
Chip under PTT button

Oh wow, I just noticed a chip right under the internet button. It seems is positioned right under the left side of the PTT when the slider is closed. I baby my phone like nobody's business. Had the Fuze since launch.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
Well, if it is a design flaw (which it seems to be) it seems like it is something HTC needs to handle. Exchanging one from ATT will only result in the same thing happening.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ptyindian:
yeah i have it too but its soooo small to notice right now and i have had my fuze for about 2 weeks too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
If anybody else is having this issue let us know. This is something that needs to be brought to HTC's attention, especially for a $400 phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hchavarria:
Mine is also chipping under the OK, CV, spacebar, and Wifi
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I am thinking about returning it to AT&T, but hate to have to add everything all over again, especially if the new one will do the same thing. I contacted HTC and suggested I just exchange it...anyone else going to do that as well?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] californiarailroader:
I got my Fuze from Amazon less than 2 weeks ago, and am noticing the exact same thing on mine, though the one under the WiFi is the only one you can really see, and even it's hardly noticeable (I never even noticed this until I saw this thread, that should give you an idea of how TINY they area). I'll keep an eye on it, but don't plan to exchange it unless this spreads or the chips get worse.

Edit-I baby mine like crazy too, as do most of you on here it seems. That fact, and the fact it's happening in the SAME spots on everybody's Fuze says to me it's a manufacturing defect, and hopefully this is the extent of it. Thankfully so far it's basically unoticeable, though on a phone at this price level there shouldn't be any such defects, no matter how tiny they may be.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I too hope this is the extent of the defect. If it does get worse, I will just contact HTC and explain the situation.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] funnysam:
I second this:

under the internet key, calendar key, very tiny spot under wifi.

As i have babied mine, seems like an design issue as well.

Looking from the side profile, you can see that the surface underneath the volume key are touching the side, so it may be the cause that scratches the surface. Can someone starts off a petition?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I already contacted HTC about this issue, however for now the only option would be to exchange it where you bought it. As I mentioned before, if it is (and I would assume it is) a design flaw, it will just happen again with a new one. The only thing I can think of is waiting to see how extensive the damage becomes and if it gets real bad, to return it to HTC.

I gave HTC a link to this thread as well to show them others are having the same issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbcherry:
Same problem here on my Fuze, under the Wifi button. I've also had my phone for a little over two weeks and take extremely good care of it. For the WiFi button area of the phone, the only thing I can see is that this is right where the top line of the lower controls (like the line that separates the screen from the home button) hits. And the phone appears to have enough give that when you push down on the home key it constantly hits there. Thats what I am guessing is doing it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] shadyghost:
Just a thought...

Hey guys I am super anal when it comes to my phones so I believe I qualify to make an educated guess about this. lol. First of all I noticed the same exact "chips" very soon after I recieved my phone.

At first I too believed them to be wear marks but after further examination I came to the conclusion that they must be production flaws, such as break off points of the plastic mold or something.

I believe this because I simply havent used the phone enough to cause the marks not to mention the mark under the space bar doesnt ever touch the back of the screen. Seeing as everyone has the marks almost exactly in the same place gives more credence to it being a production flaw.

Now moving on to the more frustrating and serious flaw. If you guys look real close I bet you find dust pieces under the glass and against the lcd. I can live with the chips, but I can't stand the dust.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
I'm on my 3rd Fuze for warranty reasons, and the 2nd one I got was returned because of this problem. Does anyone have a good camera to post a macro photo for illustration? I would do it but my current handset does not have this issue (and i hope it never does!)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I have a pretty good camera so I can take some photos tonight. Da_G, you mentioned this is your third fuze. Can you let us know if/when it chips? I am probably going to exchange it this weekend (or just go after work tomorrow) but if they all do this, I see no point. Plus, everything else works well, so I would hate to exchage it and get one with a faulty screen or something else more annoying!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hchavarria:
I thought about exchanging it but from the sound of it it's a design flaw and I would hate to exchange mine and start having the problems others have like GPS lag and so on. My fuze has worked perfectly from the start so I'm thinking twice about exchanging it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I am in the same exact boat, but will probably make a decision this weekend.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
yup mine has it, too! I hope this doesn't get bigger. I had MASSIVE paint chipping issues all over the bottom of my Tilt, but the paint and plastic were both matte so it was harder to notice. On the FUZE it is really easy to notice if it gets larger!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] SOULd OUT:
Just AT&T Fuze?

I'm a potential AT&T Fuze customer and I want to know if it's only happening to Fuzes or is it happening to all Raphaels?

Also how many people have screen covers that this is happening to? I know it's an inexcusable flaw in a $300+ phone but I would like to know if it's preventable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] abc12345:
I also have it too but didn't notice it because I really only use the soft keyboard. Mine also has started to peel at the corner of my home button from being in my pocket.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
I think i've got something similar below the internet key on my phone; it looks more like scuffed plastic than chipped paint.

Honestly though, this cosmetic detail is such a minor flaw. I understand it's an expensive device, but I think some people are just way too concerned about these little things. Granted, I'm concerned about protecting my device as well as I went and covered my phone in 3M laminate. Still one has to be reasonable. And are you really going to care about these blemishes on a device that you'll, I assume, use daily for at least several months ,if not years. It's going to happen eventually and it's called "wear and tear."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] BenjaminATX:
I have the same two chips and have had the phone for two days.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] shadyghost:
People i really dont think this is a problem that is going to get worse because it looks to be a build quality issue, and a very small one at that. The title of the original post is somewhat inaccurate because i'm assuming were dealing with uniform black plastic. There is simply no paint involved. This flaw in no way affects the performance of the phone nor does it really detract from the overall appearance. If your phone has no other issue do not exchange it! Trust me, you will not find the perfect phone. My wife's prescious iphone had a few minor flaws, so its not just htc.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johnny13oi:
Yeah I have these markings as well, I believe these are just like what someone said, break off points in the molding. They are probably gonna be on all the units and honestly I would have never noticed if I never read this thread. This is a very very minor flaw that shouldn't bother anyone too much (if you are thinking about getting the phone, definitely get it, it is awesome).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] djcaston:
I've also had two chips in the same exact spots. I don't think this is anything that can be solved with an exchange. It looks like it's happening to pretty much everyone that has noticed it so far, and it probably occurs after a certain period of use. My guess is that there is something in the sliding mechanism that is scraping up against the plastic when the keyboard is slid open and closed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
While I do agree an exchange will most likely result in the same problem, I must disagree that it is something people who shelled out $300+ for should not be concerned about.

If you bought a brand new car and two weeks later paint started to chip off the door for no apparent reason, I'm pretty sure many would take it back to the dealer and have it fixed.

Now I understand it does not affect the performance, but it does affect resale value. When I sell my old phones, I take pride that I can say there are no scratches or dents in it.

Having said that, I will most likely wait it out and see if it gets worse. There is a one year warranty on the device so if say 6 months down the road I notice major cosmetic damage, I will most definitely send it to HTC for repair. The devices out there now all suffer from this and we would have to wait until a new batch hit the market anyway.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Raspster:
I had the same problem... 2 chips on the left front side next to the home button. I exchanged it and its been 2 more weeks with no chips so far but I am sure I will get them! I also had the pre-production fuze and that chiped after 3 days of use. I too am anal about my phones.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
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Here are the two chips circled in red. let me know if this is similar to what you guys are getting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Mine is smooth under the left-arrow/wifi key, but what you show under the Internet/CV key looks very similar to what I have. I never would have noticed it if not for this thread (and it took me a while to find it even after I read this thread; people made it sound so horrible, I was looking for something much worse cosmetically). I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] californiarailroader:
My words exactly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Raspster:
I feel the same now. My first return was mainly for the GPS not working well. The paint chip was just the icing on the cake. My new fuze work ALOT better than my first and no chips so far but if I do get them I'm keeping it. I do have scratches on the back cover as it slides around like a hockey puck with the mirror shinny back but I did order the original touch pro battery cover from expansys and it has the black rubber back so when I get that I will be good to go.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] climber1872000:
You guys complain about paint chipping off. I am on my fourth freaking fuze!!! Not because of paint or GPS issues but rather because of the screen separating from the housing! The second time I returned it for the screen issues the AT&T manager had to go through and open five brand new out of the box Fuzes before he could find one that didn't already have the screen separating from the housing. It was always in the very same pace too; in the bottom right hand corner. It seems as if the quality i have grown to love out of HTC has completely gone down the sh#%ter!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
OMG i personally thought it was just me. Which i doubted cuz i baby all my electronics also. Especially my phones.

Here Are my personal Pictures that i just finished taking of my fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Raspster:
Personally, they should have kept the original touch pro look. Thats why I was hoping there would be a hack to have it work on 3g in the US. Ohwell, they came out with an unlocked diamond in the US on 3g bands, I'm sure they will do the same with the touch pro.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
Yup, same exact places as mine. As for the GPS I will test it out more this weekend. I tried out the ATT Nav but I was in my house and it was cloudy, so I understand if it takes a bit to lock on. If it takes long outside with clear skies I will another excuse to exchange it.

Let me reiterate though, for the $379 I spent on the phone, there is no excuse for the paint/mold to be flaking off. My original iphone never had any issues, nor did my w810i or v600 or v3i. I babied them and never had a scratch, nick, ding or dent. Me causing the damage is one thing, a design flaw needs to be taken seriously. By not taking action, we are just letting the compaines walk all over us.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] shadyghost:
Wow those pictures are way worse than mine, If that was my phone it most definitely would be going back. My phone you can barely see the nicks. As far those of you who are unable to return it I was thinking that I would probably get a thin piece of black sticky felt and attach it across that area so as to protect it and not have it look jank. You would have to do it pretty carefully and anally for it look good but its very possible.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
At a glance, they do not look real bad, however they are there and there is a design flaw any way you cut it. I will most likely decide this weekend if I will exhange it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
Interested in your results with the original cover. I asked expansys and they advised against getting it for the Fuze due to probable fitment issues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hitchb:
Weird. It's right there on my Fuze too. Two tiny little chips/scratches under the ATT globe internet key. I've been extra careful with mine as well and have had it since launch day.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
Since this thread is already 5 pages long and everyone is having the same problem, I am thinking about starting a petition, informing HTC of this problem and demanding they rectify it. Now for some of you, I understand that a few chips may not bother you, however for most of us, paying $400 and having this problem is a concern which demands attention.

Please let me know if you are interested and I will write up something to send to HTC.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
I'm willing to stick my name on something, it's clearly a design flaw that's causing something on the sliding mechanism to abrase the housing. This is the kind of thing that should warrant at the very least a service notice to techs so when they get retuns/exchanges/etc they modify the slider to eliminate the problem. Of course ideally they'd do a recall and repair all our units but i'm not holding my breath for that one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jd885:
i would be there to, i have the same chips
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I do not think it is the sliding mechanism because I slid my keyboard open a few times and never seen it touch. In either case like you said, the techs need to be informed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] garagebandking9:
I have to say...I've only had mine for a few days...but it is absolutely flawless. The keyboard surround is perfectly smooth.

I'm moderately concerned about these "chips" showing up but will wait and see. Considering it's in the same general location on everyone's phone I would agree with the "mold break-off" idea...but that would be apparent from when the phone first came out of the box...it wouldn't manifest itself at a later time.

I noticed my phone is very solid and the keyboard certainly slides shut firmly and securely...wouldn't be surprised if something were rubbing at one point or another in there...

If you look at the back of the screen housing...you can see slider tracks that line up rather well with the WiFi and OK buttons...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rsacipher:
I had a simular problem on my Tilt TyTNII, the fron pad was peeling. Good luck getting HTC to admit to the problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
Yes, and I would assume they would need to see about 10,000 signatures before they address it. For all we know they are aware of it but released it anyway, knowing AT&T would handle the exchanges.

In any case I am going to stop at the AT&T store tomorrow and address the issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Lets form a RIOT!!!! O_O!!!...

Just kidding :cool: lmao

But yea for real, im all up for petitioning :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
Well since I got everything working right on my Fuze, I will wait it out and see how bad it gets. If it really becomes an issue down the road, I will just send it back to HTC for repairs.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TVDinner:
I have had my fuze for 3 weeks. During that time I have had incredibly high use. I average 4-6000 minutes a month on the phone and well over a 1000 emails a week, text messages, etc. I have the phone in hand almost 24-7, listen to Sirius or music at the gym with it, etc etc etc.

Under a high powered light and with a magnifying glass I just looked at my phone after reading all the posts in this thread. I do see tiny tiny little nicks under the wifi and cv buttons (similar area to the pictures poster here). that being said I would have never, ever noticed it without reading this thread since the nicks are so small.

I agree that a phone this expensive should not have this happen to it, but every phone I personally have ever had has had some nicks or wear and tear marks after some time using them. These nicks scream "black fine point sharpie" to me. Of course I don't want anything to happen to the phone and hope it never nicks, but I would be more shocked if it did not. My high high end business class Dell laptop has wear marks where I rest my hands each day when working/typing.

All of that being said I probably will not be returning this phone within my 30 days return period. That being said does anyone know the actual replacement/repair term policy we all have with htc. not a guess on what it is, but the actual wording and terminology? My box is in a storage unit and I probably will not be able to dig it out easily so looking for info here.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fourstarzzzz:
I would like to get an update from those who had there phone only for a few days and those who exchanged it (Da_G comes to mind) to see if the chipping was still occuring.

TvDinner: I would assume it is a standard 1 year warranty covering all manufacturer defects, whether it is cosmetic or mechanical. I buy all electronics like this with American Express in case they give me problems later.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hexydes:
Hmm, just checked, under the PTT button, there it is. I don't have any other marks that I can see, but that one is there. I absolutely coddle my phones, and I've been freaking out these past three weeks because I didn't have a case on it yet (was waiting for a manufacturer to send one so I could do a video review, just came in yesterday).

Pretty crappy. I hope HTC addresses this. You can petition or whatever, but if HTC doesn't do something, the problem becomes worse, and happens on other phones in the future, I'll simply vote with my dollar. I've loved my HTC phones, but I have no allegiance other than they provided the best phone. If that isn't the case anymore, I have no qualms moving to a new manufacturer for my next phone (this coming from someone who is on their third HTC phone, and has "sold" HTC phones to friends/family probably 4-5 other times).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] webfrm:
Same issue

Mine is a large chip under the navigation wheel. It is pretty large indeed just above where the microphone on the bottom is. Mine is within 30 days but I'd have to reinstall all my apps ( I hate doing it) again so maybe chip paint for a black car will work. I will have to place my FUZE next to some cars on various lots to get a match. Unless you all have a better suggestion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pazookie:
i just checked mine and i have nicks (ran my finger nail over them to check) under the wifi and internet key..i personally dont care UNLESS they grow..i did a warranty exchange from a tilt to this fuze so i dont feel gipped but i feel for everyone..htc is penny pinchers..seriously