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[G1 General] SuperUserMovado:
Giving in

Some people reported the pop email client and the browser would work.I guess I am just wondering why they left me with email but not the browser...strange.

I think I am going to get the data plan when the market supports paid apps.
[G1 General] texasaggie1:
WAP works with G1

What this guy says is right. wap.voicestream.com works with the G1. internet2.voicestream.com DOES NOT.

If you will be roaming, it's a good idea to add the wap address to your APN's. The G1 APN's weren't recognized by ANYBODY when I was one a trip last month...
[G1 General] nate13jp:
I tried the tzones proxy too the webbrowser worked maby 10% of the time. Email dosent work but I'm dose. I was using the phone over wifi for about 3 weeks till I decidet to just do the upgrade. Try the total internet tho. I think that tmobile blocked my iemi tho so I couldent ust the t zones. If your going to try the t zones proxy change all ur apns to wap.voicestream.com befor trying to connect to data.
[G1 General] audiobastard:
Im sorry I gotta respond

Fines and jail time... this person's an idiot. I'm sorry... there's no such thing as jail time for this even if you walked into a police station and confessed and begged for jail time. I'm sorry, just tired of morons who don't know what they're talking about trying to scare people about stuff they know nothing about. The person's probably a troll anyways. They won't prorate you if you say you didn't know; they won't fine you if you say you don't understand this "internet" thing, and they won't send you to jail because you have an outstanding bill. There's a reason no one goes to jail for defaulting on credit cards and bills; it's called the criminal code. My 2 cents; I won't charge you 250 per hour. I was just lookin' through here because i'm considering picking up a G1 and had to say something when I read this.
[G1 General] neoobs:
Moderators aren't trolls. And for a matter of fact, they can prorate you and all you can do is hope you can fight it, there are several cases in court similar to this already and not just for telephone but water and power utilities too. For So Cal residents they probably remember hearing about Edison prorating customers as far back as 2 years, one person owed 2 million dollars, and charges were pressed on him. Of course he fought and charges were quickly dropped once news picked it up. ATT and Comcast/Time Warner have done similar things with users who were charged a lower rate than they should have been. They were prorated as well, although not many people ever argued that one. This happens all the time but not many fight and those who do have slim chance of wining unless the charges are somewhat frivolous.

Remember you can't go to jail unless charges are pressed. I can walk into a Police Station and say I killed a man and they can only hold me for 24 hours, but then again they can hold you for 24 hours no matter what so it really isn't that big of a deal. And because of the way this situation presents itself, the "cheated" party must file the charges, and trust me companies have for a lot worse.
[G1 General] LvDisturbed1:
I know you posted in my defence...but neoobs is neither a troll or an idiot. Please refrain from namecalling. We don't mind if you post your opinion, but please keep it respectful.

Anyway, update on the internet data plan. It still works, but I'm finally switching over to the G1 data plan. I had an issue where I was wrongfully overcharged for the G1 phone when i purchased it, and finally after 2 months I got the issue resolved. Not only am I getting refunded the full purchase price for the phone, but I'm getting a discount on my bill if I add the G1 data plan. I happilly accepted (who would refuse?) and am waiting for my check in the mail.
[G1 General] netdata:
I had to laugh

Jailtime?

The only way someone can go to jail for using a data plan is if

they can establish you have defrauded them.

Otherwise a bill is a civil matter.

Ignorance can quickly be fixed by doing some simple research.

I know first hand as a fact on the matter because I have had the

experience with telco companies myself personally.

Lets stop posting based on opinions, use facts.

Opinions are worth nothing (unless you are an established expert).

Now that aside, if a telco DOES have a reason or proof someone

committed fraud, then it is a CRIMINAL matter.

Then "charges can be pressed" as the word gets tossed around on

this thread.

IF you are intentionally misrepresenting information, such as lying

to the service provider, etc. And it is DOCUMENTED. Such as

something in writing etc.

Getting back on topic - what is the best way to go for data?

And also I keep hearing Tmobile has closed those proxy loopholes

can someone please confirm this.

PS like neoobs said:

If you are hacking your phone to get free anything that is a different matter all together so watch out.
[G1 General] rodneyat:
Does this only work in the US or are their settings to use for the non-US APN, as well? I don't normally travel outside of the US but I do, on occasion. I would like to still be able to use the data outside the US.

BTW: I have the total internet plan and it is working like a charm.
[G1 General] wootroot:
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[G1 General] Material Defender:
Read your contract and see what it says about things like this. You are responsible and you know better. You can be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Bzzt. You can't invent new crimes by drawing up a contract. Now, you might be able to be prosecuted anyway under ridiculous IP laws (like the DMCA), but the contract does not magically make something illegal that was not illegal before. Being sued is quite different from being imprisoned.

For the price compared to others, you really should just do as they say. Cheating them would give them everyright to not only prorate you back to the time you started using your G1 but to also cancel your contract and force you to pay the fee...

Legal analysis aside, this kind of attitude is frightening. It is not OUR job to look out for T-Mobile's best interests. Corporations screw over unsuspecting consumers every single day. Comcast advertises "unlimited" internet for a flat price, and then cuts people off when they exceed a hidden limit (not hard to do if you tinker with a wide variety of linux distros, like I do.) Copycat electronic products (iPhone, Wii, etc.) make at least half of their sales on clueless parents / grandparents. Hell, I have lost probably a hundred dollars to malfunctioning vending machines, yet I have never seen one that malfunctioned in my favor.

And cell phone companies... do not get me started there. Credit where credit is due; T-mobile *only* wasted about 3 weeks and a few hours of my time on the phone. My Cingular (as they were then known) billing fiasco took 3 months, 4 long drives to the major corporate store, and several dozen hours spent not only on the phone, but waiting patiently at the store while the workers there ignored me in favor of their accessory-buying, commission-generating customers. A less patient customer would have given up and just paid the $300 they didn't really owe. And I'm sure many of them have.

But none of this justifies STEALING, right? Of course it doesn't.

However, my G1 is my property, period (I bought it secondhand.) I am not breaking into a cable box I don't own or "eavesdropping" on a passive satellite broadcast with a hacked receiver. The internet isn't something passive that you can just splice into... it's a two way street. Changing an APN server is literally just changing a URL. By doing so, I am instructing my phone to send a request to T-Mobile's internet services. It's T-Mobile's decision to decide whether to accept or reject this request. It does not constitute "hacking" any more than pressing the start button on a pinball machine and finding out that it's in free play mode. Is it MY fault if it's in free play mode? Is it immoral to go ahead and play a game, given that I'm a regular and profitable customer for the arcade?

If T-Mobile is too lazy to configure their internet services properly, that is their problem, not mine.
[G1 General] adamp562:
Ahhh!!!

:confused:

Help!

I need help with the APN settings!

I'm in LA if that has anything to do with anything!
[G1 General] Snakebear420:
I changed all the APNs to wap.voicestream.com and it's still not working. I have an unlimited data and text flexpay plan. Any help? Thanks.
[G1 General] juna106:
Interesting. Considering someone should sue T-Mobile instead.

Can't help but weigh in. Which will of course prompt a volley.

Here's the deal.

When the G-1 came out, and if you had T-Zones, which I did, for 5.99, you could do the proxy hack and get web service. Where I live, we don't have the fast web service. I had a Motorola Razr, and they swore up and down that it wouldn't work for email unless I had a 12 dollar email plan. Well, they were wrong, they just wanted to sell me something. So I got the 5.99 plan and it worked fine.

So I got my G-1, and all probably would have been just fine if I had been a Jesus_Freke acolyte then. The problem of course being that you get the google sign in page, and unless you know how to hack around that you are screwed.

But, I stuck with my T-Zones and did the proxy hack, after signing in with the big data plan, and then canceling it online. Which you can't do anymore.

Eventually I did an update that did a factory reset, and since the T-Zones had become grandfathered by then, I lost it.

Once upon a time, public utilities were just that: public utilities. They didn't exist for the purposes of enriching large corporate interests. Apple recognized at one point that hacking encourages advances in technology a lot faster than the decisions that get made in a board room, because hackers are generally driven and obsessed people with intelligence and time to spare, who don't perhaps have a large payment on the Beamer and soccer practice to get the kids to. In other words, hacking can provide corporate interests with a good deal of free intelligence if the suits in the board room are willing to read these forums and keep up with what is going on. Which obviously they do, since it seems that every time T-Mob figures out how to stop people from doing something, it is concurrent with some new hack advance.

What they should do is take a page from Lego or Apple, and use those hacks to develop further content advances in their products, thereby making the product more affordable for all, rather than engaging in a war with hackers.

The truth is, T-Mobile is lying to you when they tell you that their phone won't work if you don't buy their 24.99 data plan or whatever it is. Somewhere in the textbooks of American law lie dusty references to lying to consumers in order to sell a product.

It works just fine without the data plan.

So, you could say it would be more honest for them to just tell us that they need some money for research and development, and perhaps again take a page from the open-source community. The button at the side that says, "donate." (to the R and D, not to the vacation home.)

Considering the years of open source work that went into developing Android, unpaid, it only seems fitting.
[G1 General] dy2592:
The way I was activating my G1 without a compatible data plan, I have the web 2 go plan 9.99, was to enable wifi. There is a method after rooting the phone with R29, you would type the command after at the setup screen, and then it would allow you to go into the wireless options where you can now configure to connect to a wireless network. After you do that, you can go through the process of activating the G1 with your gmail account.
[G1 General] wolf39us:
I can vouch for the "Flexpay with web2go and unlimited text" on the iPhone 3G S... I am NOT using a proxy (epc.tmobile.com), data works to the full extent!

Anyways, I am looking at phones for my mother...we are looking at the Dream, and the Sapphire (HTC G1 and HTC mytouch)

from the looks in the forums the mytouch is a no go with the "web2go" data plan, however the G1 appears to be wishy washy... would the web2go plan work fully on the g1 or the mytouch?

as far as tmobile knows with my iPhone 3G S... it is labeled as a "non-tmobile" phone!
[G1 General] donepate:
T-Mobile is a major corparation who can verify the identity of ANY IMEI currently on the market. There is no handset out they can not pull up and tell what type it is. I see it every day. 99% of the people that walk into a T-Mo store and activate or change services NEVER READ THE PAPERWORK. All they want to do is sign and leave. I wonder how many of you out there still have the copies of all the paper they gave you. An individual customer of T-Mo is of no consequense to them. They are not going to throw anyone in jail because they would lose big bucks trying to get it done. They do however have a leagal right (stated in all their paperwork) to cancel service based on "abnormal usage". When you sign something you need to read and understand BEFORE you put pen to paper. Big companies count on you not reading it and just signing it. Bottom line is, If you dont like the terms, DON'T SIGN THE PAPER. If we all demand better terms they will have to comply. We are the buyer. We have the money they want. As a group, we have more power. Don't just give it away. be smart and read. You are buying a service from them and it is based on USAGE of said service.
[G1 General] The Sleeve:
Clarification

So I wanted to clarify some things for everybody. I read through this whole forum and there is a mixed set of correct and incorrect information.

1st: t-mobile knows why type of phone you use:

The IMEI of your phone is sent in to the system usually 2-3 days after your sim card has been in that phone. It does not matter whether it is a tmo phone or a non-tmo phone. That is why the fellow using t-zones was only able to get it to work for about 3 days. The system noticed the phone type and realized he had the wrong internet. And you there with the iPhone 3GS, they know you have one, but as long as your internet works with the web2go keep using it that way.

2nd: "you need the G1 plan for your internet to work":

Yes and No. Recently, it became a required feature if you use your discount to upgrade. I know there are people out there with the total internet package saying that it works and in all reality it should. However, there are some customers that used to (as an example) use a Behold with the 24.99 Smartphone Internet plan who have since switched to an Android device, but their internet says they need an upgrade. T-Mobile changes it to the Android based data plan and it starts to work even though they are the same price. In theory, the Smartphone plan should be enough just as Total Internet is enough. Sometimes those plans do work and sometimes they do not. T-Zones, however, will not continue to work without having to constantly change things, as the fellow before had noted.

3rd: data cap:

T-Mobile does have a data cap for their cell phones. It is at 10gb, BUT once you reach that cap it only drops you down to Edge service. So they will not cut off your internet, only slow it down. It's called being "throttled."

I have no insight towards the whole "legality issue" technically we aren't supposed to be able to tether any phone other than a BB or WinMo device but most of us do it anyway. T-Mobile never said it "can't" be done, just that they don't "support" it. Meaning you cannot call them and get their help.
[G1 General] kingraf01:
Didn't work for me...

I been on the grandfathered "WAP" svc for about 6 - 7 yrs now starting with the Motorola MPX20 and now the HTC Touch with no prob. LOVE MY HTC TOUCH but it's over a couple yrs old (one of the first models & from China) and starting to die from time to time, so I need a temp backup phone. I LOOOOVE this site cause it's what got my Touch working after I got it.

My ex-girlfriend knew my phone has been trippin and gave me her G1 after she got "The Droid". Needless to say I came here for answers (and how to stay outta jail advice I guess lol) but none of the settings recommended worked for me. I really like her Android so I wanna play with this G1 since WM7 isn't ready yet and I can't afford a new WM smartphone right now.

Anyways I think I'm either gonna upgrade to a G1 plan or just leave T-Mo all together if I can find similar savings in what I get now for my Touch. I could care less about minutes, just need nationwide coverage, sim card usage, unlimited data & SMS/MMS messaging for under $65 a month (what I get now basically with my HTC Touch). Any suggestions?
[G1 General] SuperUserMovado:
You are not going to get a better plans than the one on tmobile. I suggest you buy the ADP1 or ADP2 because with them you can use tzones.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The_SloPro:
I'm sorry if that's a stupid question, but can someone specifiy the app that can edit the file /system/etc/floating_feature.xml?
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Prior to your next posting please read the guidances that are stuck on top of every forum like

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Thanks for your cooperation!

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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CoolThingsBro:
Hi! I have been keep finding roms and ways to root for HTC Touch Diamond but mostly just dead link or doesn't work. Does anyone have the full tutorial for me? Thanks!
[OnePlus 9 Pro] jwidel:
I am getting this pop up window of "api not deployed" when clicking on check my application. Has anyone experienced this before. I have contacted OnePlus and they are looking into it. I have tried multiple browsers and different devices with same result.

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[OnePlus 9 Pro] jwidel:
has anyone experienced this before?
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Appreciative:
It's down again. This has happened in the past. Sometimes for hours or sometimes for weeks at a time. I just logged in and get the same error.

You have the option to flash Eu to unlock bootloader, bypassing the token
[OnePlus 9 Pro] daina:
Yeah, I'm super-tempted to go this way. Every step of this has been just excruciating. Finally got the right drivers installed this morning, got into fastboot, got the token, then the Unlock Token site isn't working—for me, nothing happens on the page even, after I hit 'submit.'

But I think I'll go the MSM conversion to EU to Global.

Do I need to worry about not having an unlock.bin, or is it enough that I have the token ready to submit when the site goes back online?
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Appreciative:
I submitted mine and then flashed to EU with the conversion. Then went back to Tmo to test something and while I was there, I verified my token worked to unlock the bootloader. Then went back to Eu conversion

You already have the stub to submit later, that's great. You probably won't ever need it again but it's good to have just to have.

I've been on Eu oos11, flashed my modem back in, rooted, magisk, unlocked bootloader, everything works great. You always have the option to go back to Tmo at any time with the Tmo msm tool so there's no real risk here. Other than standard flashing disclaimers
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Appreciative:
One thing I forgot to mention. Crazazn said you need to unlock your bootloader while in Android 11. Either right after flashing the EU conversion or after taking the 11.2.10.10 OTA update. But before you go to 12/13 as those will require the token from OnePlus again. Even for Eu/global 12/13, they apparently noticed the oversight and fixed it in 12/13. And 13 doesn't need the modem flashed back in as that was also fixed
[OnePlus 9 Pro] daina:
Hey, thank you for this. Silly question time—does the conversion roll me back to A11?

Currently, my phone (LE2127) is bone-stock but fully updated to Android 12 (Build C.21). My idea is to do the conversion to EU using craznazn's tool, flash the firmware, update through Oxygen Updater to current and "convert" this TMO to LE2125. So, any bootloader unlock should be done right after the conversion, right? And that can be done directly in fastboot without an unlock.bin (which is the point of the conversion), if I understand things correctly.
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Appreciative:
Yes, the current Tmo->Eu MSM tool will roll you back to 11.2.2.2 if I remember right (or 11.2.3.3 if not) And the regular Tmo MSM tool also rolls you back to 11, I can't remember exactly where but definitely 11.

Correct, after conversion, enable developer mode, enable adb, toggle OEM unlock and then head to fastboot like normal.

From there to get to 12 and then 13, there are various ways, none of which I've done.

It seems to be if you stay on Eu, you update to C.47 then c.65 (oos12) and then F.72 (oos13). But if you go to global, it's c.47 then c.66 and then F.17. Definitely double check that, as I'm going from memory and not my own experience on that.

C.xx is oos12

F.xx is oos13

I haven't done it because of the issues of oos12 and hesitancy for oos13 but I found some good information, including the firmwares/OTA zips and boot Images in the first and second posts here: https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-magisk-unlock-root-keep-root-oos-13-f-72.4252373/
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] poikimoin:
My friend forgot the 6-digit PIN of his phone. He has a Samsung Galaxy S20+ and it has all of his data in it. He is not a nerd so he didn't turn on USB debugging active, he also tried Samsung's mirror unlock feature (don't know the exact name) which can remotely unlock the phone but he didn't turn on that feature either. Most of the answers on this forum were using these methods but it seems he can't use either of those methods. He even tried to go to the Samsung store but all they said was to reset his phone.

Does anyone have any lead/answer as to how can he get his data back? He has USB debugging turned off and Mirror unlock is turned off as well?

OS - ANDROID 12

MODEL - SM G985F

USB DEBUGGING - OFF

MIRROR UNLOCK - OFF
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] peachpuff:
If you login into your samsung find my mobile account you can unlock it remotely, assuming he didn't forget his login info.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] poikimoin:
He didn't unlock that option on the phone itself. He tried doing it.
[Device Reviews and Information] Minionguyjpro:
UserBenchmarks: Game 2%, Desk 30%, Work 2%

CPU: Intel Pentium 4415U - 28.6%

GPU: Intel HD Graphics 610 - 2.1%

SSD: HFS128G3BTND-N210A 128GB - 24.9%

USB: SDHC Card 16GB - 213.2%

USB: SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.0 32GB - 14%

USB: Generic Flash Disk 64GB - 97.8%

RAM: Hynix HMA851S6AFR6N-UH 1x4GB - 15.5%

MBD: Lenovo 80XM
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pokevitek:
Hi, does anybody know if there will be some new ROM release from HTC soon?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] nuke1:
They do it when they like. We have no say and.
[OPPO Find X3 Pro] Dema8880:
Hello all,

As some of you already mentioned in some other threads, since the middle of ColorOS 12 updates the 3D gaming performance took a big hit. At least one my phone. So I waited for ColorsOS 13 update to see if it brings any changes. To my surprise the 3D performance got even more worse. For example in Diablo Immortal on lowest settings I get 10-30 FPS max. Are others experiencing the same? Or could it be that my phone is some sort of broken?

Surprisingly I got "normal" results in 3dmark and antutu. So I really dont know what could cause this.

I appreciate any contribution or feedback to this topic.

Thanks in advance!
[OPPO Find X3 Pro] FiLLOk:
I hate it. How can games lag on such powerful hardware. But those games that use the Vulkan engine work well, I can play PUBG New State 90 fps without frame drops and if I turn on OpenGL I get 30 fps on the minimum graphics. Call of Duty, which also works on Vulcan, also runs without problems. Diablo works on OpenGL without the ability to change to Vulcan, this is the problem.