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[Touch HD General] SAppie:
Some observations....

Me too, also cant get the file downloaded. If I plug in via the usb cable, i get up to about 30% down, then fails. When I try sync via Bluetooth, I get 0%, via wireless, also nothing. Very strange.

I've noticed that there is a DLL called ConnSetupDload.dll that is responsible for this download??? It increments my counters in the log everytime. I use the latest SPB Wireless monitor ver3.0, brilliant software.

Its just frustrating that it keeps asking to dwnload but just wont get it.....gggrrrrrrr

I'll try again late tonight when most of the UK is in bed.......for what its worth...
[Touch HD General] tonton_fred:
i m also very angry about 10000000000 times i tried to download this file but no way.... how that can be happend... nothing on the website... i try one more time .... but it's a nice phone..... except such kind of update
[Touch HD General] TeeT:
Better safe than sorry ???

:o

Hi guys,

My Dutch HD has the same nasty Install thing going on.

Trying to install and fail, time after time.

But now, after reading Vincents post, I will for sure not say YES anymore.

Until somebody finds out where this is coming from.

Be aware that if something like above happens. Your bill will rocket sky-high.:eek:

And nobody will take the loss for you.

Providers will only ask you whether you answered "YES" when you were asked to install this 'gadget' :(

For the time being... I am still a bit worried.

Is it HD specific? or do other (HTC) phone users experience the same issue ?

Gr. Theo.
[Touch HD General] Wavac:
Same problem here in Greece!

Very annoying!
[Touch HD General] degake:
No exception here in Belgium...

Diamond-users don't seem to get this 'update' though....
[Touch HD General] Joxy:
Same annoying thing here in Bulgaria!

Most annoying!
[Touch HD General] tonton_fred:
Just for the people who speak french i m too tired to write in english

je veux juste tirer un coup de gueule....

Madame ou monsieur HTC ,

Merci de nous faire télécharger une base de donnée des paramètres réseaux des divers opérateurs.... mais franchement j'ai réussi après 3535'32582'5802580258'285 tentatives, ne vaudrait-il pas mieux que l'on mette en téléchargement un soft qui permet de de personnaliser le touch flow 3d ou qui nous permet de tourner notre Touch hd et avoir l'image qui suit... tel l'omnia Pourquoi tant de mal dans un truc des plus inutiles et qui pèse lourd dans les tests contre le célèbre téléphone propriétaire qu'est l'iphone... Personnellement je vous recommande de regarder un peu autours de vous nous sommes une communauté de fou autours de htc mais svp ne nous faites pas perde notre temps avec des futilités mais apportez nous vraiment qqch qui vous démarque de la pomme parce toute notre communauté fait vivre htc.... et surtout qui veulent la faire vivre

A bon entendeur merci
[Touch HD General] nanoo-eg:
Ya salam!!!!! :rolleyes:The same in Egypt
[Touch HD General] Nico_sat:
Tout à fait, je confirme

+1
[Touch HD General] iamjohno:
Same here! Vodaphone NL
[Touch HD General] resu_cth:
same here

vodafone nl :mad:

I keep saying NO till I know why its pushed.
[Touch HD General] degake:
Is there anyone who can confirm that this is only a blackstone-issue?

Or are there other users (e.g. diamond, touch pro...) who also have this issue?
[Touch HD General] paulaafjes:
same here nl kpn

not on my tytn2:rolleyes:
[Touch HD General] Impunitus:
Temporary solution

Nevermind, it doesn't survive the reset. Screws TF3D.
[Touch HD General] igalan:
Ok, I think I found a way to disable this. Please make backups before trying, I can't guarantee it would not cause side effects.

Edit the registry and remove the following key:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Services\ConnSetupDload]

Soft-reset

This should prevent that the dll which handles the update process is loaded.

Please report back so we know if this has side effects.

Thanks to SAppie for finding the dll responsible.
[Touch HD General] pierrelp1:
same for me in france as well
[Touch HD General] Joxy:
I think, this is the solution for the moment.
[Touch HD General] degake:
I was trying everything and at a moment, I just disabled telephone radio, waited for 10 secs and enabled it again.

Untill now, I didn't get the message/update again....

I'll hope it stays that way.
[Touch HD General] Looking Glass:
I removed that tick from day one, since I was tired of the "auto HSDPA" connect feature, but as many of you mentioned, today my HD began to do this on every Activesync connection to any of my computers.

What is this thing? Why HTC selected a fixed date for that?

Sounds Scary!
[Touch HD General] Nico_sat:
Thank for the soluce ;)
[Touch HD General] vincent1:
I found different push functions in the HD Rom. Some of them are used and necessary by SMS and MMS. But there are several more push tracks on the HD.

At the moment i look to wdsglobal.com. I found they on my HD :) but just a trace.

On HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Services\ConnSetupDload are to much keys and values to delete the entry quickly. I would not recommend to do that. But here are the important values for check intervals and other functions. Thats one way to control the database update.
[Touch HD General] Looking Glass:
Looks like igalan found the solution. It works for me.

But still uncomfortable with both, the HD behaviour and about having to edit the registry for something that should be a menu option somewhere.....
[Touch HD General] SAppie:
Update

I stayed up to gone midnight, and ran the update, and it actually went through, 99% > installing database > reset.

All works as before without any issues (and i have a lot of 3rd party software installed)

The only difference I can see is that the connection setup version is now showing as:

NEW = Version 1.5 (Build 35361<DB25.Blackstone_WDS100208>)

OLD = Version 1.5 (Build 35361 DB15.070)

This makes no difference to anything i normally do, I guess it is literally exactly what it says, a new updated Database to reflect new mobile phone operators.

The UK menu lists quite a few more than I remember seeing, but cant confirm:

BT-Mobile, DotMobile, Fresh Mobile, H3G, Jersey Telecom, Lebara, Manx Telecom, Mobile World, O2, Orange, Sure, T-mobile, Talk Talk Mobile, Talk Mobile, Tesco Mobile, Toucan Mobile, Virgin, Vodafone, and Yes Telecom.

I didn't even know half of those existed here in the UK. I remember on my Ex-Kaiser whilst checking the operator list only seeing the main ones, O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Orange and 3.

But, suffice to say that on the surface of it and with a moderate amount of testing of the usual set of apps that I use, this update does not appear to be anything to be concerned about.

Enjoy...........
[Touch HD General] speed200:
After all day I´ve just updated now.
[Touch HD General] gt112:
This "forced" update happening to me too on vodafone, Ireland. The download keeps failing.

Tell me this, if we allow the download and then do a hard reset, will it then reappear on the phone ??
[Touch HD General] cornelius:
finally it's happend to my uncle's HD, it took 25 minutes to update from here (He is on holiday in indonesia)... it's crazy.... auto update is not good for indonesia internet connection
[Touch HD General] speed200:
This update is visible on the installed programs so in case of hard reset probably we will have the same problem.

I´ve made a copy of this and for those who cant update I will put it here to see if that works.
[Touch HD General] kosta0955:
Generally I've noticed before (in Spb Wireless monitor) daily traffic that performs CommSetupDload.dll and it would be nice to know how to shut down this checking generally so it doesn't do it anymore ... I've configured telecom settings once and I'm not interested in updates of these settings database at all. Hope that there is another solution except deleting those registry keys metioned in previous posts.
[Touch HD General] JanSchotsmans:
I'm guessing the failing is because the servers that host the update get overloaded with ALL HD's ALL at once ALL the time trying to connect to fetch the update whenever they sense an internet connection.

Microsoft changed their Windows update system to send non critical update notifications to people in a spread and load balanced fassion.

It did cause some people to only receive notice of getting Service Pack 3 just a few weeks ago (while SP3 was released months ago) but at least windows update works extremely fast these days.

Anyway, I disabled it in the registry but my boss probably will come here today *****ing about this since hes got WiFi enabled all the time too.
[Touch HD General] speed200:
For those who didn´t make the update here it is: http://rapidshare.com/files/169771061/Customization_DB25.BlackStone_WDS100208.zip

It must be unzipped and put at Windows/AppMgr

I would appreciate to know if it worked.
[Touch HD General] slash_1:
hello!

so i tried to copy the file to Windows/AppMgr and restart my device but nothing happend. so when i start it on the next time, the download from database start again :-(

if i have make it right, it doesnt work.
[Touch HD General] hkr:
here it worked ... but what does this .dll exactly?

Edit: after a second reboot it starts again ...

so, doesn't work here either ...
[Touch HD General] weetabix1980:
didnt work for me to.. I copied the entire folder to Windows/AppMgr, rebooted but it popped up again

thanks for the effort though
[Touch HD General] vincent1:
Sorry speed200, i'm afraid you don't understand the complete function of this update and this push. I'm not really better, it's a very complex thing. :D

Check this, it's showing some ways to manipulate/upgrade WM devices

http://www.etcs.ipfw.edu/~lin/ECET581MobileComp_S07/LectureNotes/MobileEmbeddedDevCon2006_ITP402_Siddiqui.ppt

The update have done much more than a simple dll change.

The registry is patched, new keys, new values, new directories. And btw among others the connected dll is on my HD now STP1C01.DLL But it seems to me this could be different because there is a language check in the installation???

The pushed file from the server installed by a sended cab is "provision.zip" 1,8MB. Inside the provision.zip is among other files an other zip-file "Prov.zip" ;) It's password protected. I believe the password for selfextracting and installation was also send by the server. But up to the moment i wasn't able to recover it. :(

Here is a small part of the push-wap installation routine:
[Touch HD General] speed200:
So if we have to make a HR all is lost....:(
[Touch HD General] igalan:
Since this update will be unuseful for almost everybody I think it's better to stop the service and forget it. Anyway what's the purpose of updating data that if not preset out of the box, users will have already searched for it? Very clever HTC :rolleyes: .
[Touch HD General] vincent1:
No mate! We stay cool. :cool: It's just at the moment not more than new carrier database. Installation and pop-ups are annoying, not more. But it is possible to change nearly everything on the device on such way. Thats my headache! Manipulate the opening window, like "Meet your dreamgirl - push "Yes" :D:D:D and the phone is changed. Of course only up to the next HR.

Because of userposts here and talks to friends it seems to me, that some branded HDs are not involved (like O2). But they are also ready for push changes. Therefore i think, the individual HDs and the server communicate at first secretly behind the curtain and changing infos about ROM status and others. The server compares the received infos from the single devices with a checklist and choose only the desired devices for an update.
[Touch HD General] AFW:
Reported to HTC Europe Tech Support. Ticket number provided. They say "under investigation by HTC HQ" and will advise.

Also reported via email through HTC Club website.

I'll feed back here once/if a solution is provided.
[Touch HD General] gt112:
Since it seems that more or less everyone hates this sinister automatic update feature, Can I suggest that we bombard HTC wioth complaints. That's the only way you get things changed.

Their Tech Support contact form is hre

http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx

If they see enough complaints, they will realise the error of their ways and do something surely. I'm urging everyone who dislikes the update feature to contact HTC.
[Touch HD General] AFW:
The HTC Support numbers for Europe are here: http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx

Have your Touch HD's IMEI or SN on hand.

Let 'em know we're not impressed.
[Touch HD General] dh-paule:
absolutely agree !!!
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
This sucks a$$. I can't get mine to download even 1%. Stupid reminder!:mad:
[Touch HD General] degake:
HTC Support

I've just contacted HTC Support (for Belgium... though it's someone from Holland who answers the :-D)...

I explained the problem we all have.

They really had NO CLUE of what was going on.

They say there isn't any update for blackstone (first they thought it was windows update that failed....dumb....)

They asked;"did you install any 3rd party apps?" I said "no, sir... I didn't" :-D

The only solution to them is to try hard reset (no way man....)

I've send some screenshots of the problem towards them, hoping that they can READ....

Anyway, it sucks.

SO, everybody.... Send mails to mastersupport@htc.com and tell them how irrating this issue is.

Maybe then they'll get to work and try to fix/explain it.

Grtz,

Degake.
[Touch HD General] speed200:
I really don´t get it, if HTC dont know anything who will?

Jesus...all this problems with their device´s and the same answer..we dont know or try some hard reset.
[Touch HD General] degake:
I think I'll go work for HTC.

Looks like everybody is qualified for the job....
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
Hard reseting wont do anything but make us more mad. Atleast give me a reg edit to turn the notification off.
[Touch HD General] luchettooo:
new connections

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6345
[Touch HD General] gt112:
I have now complained via their CS web form and emailed them at mastersupport@htc.com

I hope this is an issue for HTC and not the result of us installing some dodgy third party software otherwise I'll be abit embarrased. To test this, I am now gonn a do afull hard reset and see what happens.

My email to HTC reads as follows
[Touch HD General] gt112:
I have just Hard Reset the phone. I have done nothing to it now apart from configure WiFi and tested that I can get on the net. WiFi is working and so far the update has NOT appeared;

I'm gonna keep the phone active (not allow it to go into stand by to keep wifi alive) and leave it for about an hour.

My next test will be to connect the HD to my laptop with ActiveSync. BTW I have uninstalled ActiveSync from the laptop and intend to reinstall it as a clean fresh install. I have a feeling that this will trigger it. I'll let you know in an hour or so (unless it appears in the meantime)

Edit (15:04pm): I have just activested vodafone 3G and used that to conect my HD to thw web rather than wifi. Again nothing. No annoying updates popping up. Will let this run for an hour or so.
[Touch HD General] degake:
As far as I see, the update doesn't come back on my HD as well.

Maybe they've shut down their servers? Probably going to give this update in different strikes (e.g. serials ***** through $$$$$$, then the rest...)
[Touch HD General] Rozenthal:
Just to confirm same thing is happening on my Touch HD in Croatia. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with service provider, because the download dialog shows up even with phone set to work offline (not connected to provider network), but rather in WiFi mode.

Sent a complaint, suggest everyone else does the same.
[Touch HD General] italcell:
Hello,

Just to confirm same thing is happening on my Touch HD ( alive in Germany...)

EDIT :

MY Touch HD is no Branding!
[Touch HD General] K_Hismoom:
My HD from O2 Germany still hasn't brought up this download dialog.
[Touch HD General] degake:
Has anyone tried to connect to Windows Update?

I can't, I'm always getting the message "The connection with the update-server is not available. Check your data-connection and check date & time of your device".

Before the stupid 'update' I was able to go through Windows update....
[Touch HD General] italcell:
Mit Branding O2??
[Touch HD General] paulaafjes:
still gets the massage in holland KPN

:mad::mad::mad:
[Touch HD General] gt112:
4pm: I have just connected to ActiveSync. Within 2 minutes the "New connections" Update appeared.

So I conclude this is triggered by ActiveSync. What does this mean? Is it a Microsoft push? Is it a HTC push? (if so why does it only initially activate when connected to activesync) ?
[Touch HD General] custardo01:
I have only seen it so far when checking pop email over wi-fi nothing to do with Active Sync.
[Touch HD General] gt112:
My point is that ActiveSync may be what triggers it initially. Could it be the case that you connected to activesync over the past 24 hours ?
[Touch HD General] custardo01:
No I use it as little as possible. However, it is always open on the phone unless I keep closing it - so you could be right. If you are maybe Active Sync killer will fix it (for me).
[Touch HD General] vincent1:
ActiveSync includes also push functions, that's correct. It need they to update/synchronize the WM device. It's normal. An outlook update is no other process than to install a new connection database. There is no doubt for me the HTC update have to come via an ip server, anyway which kind of ip connection is active.

WM pushs are generally possible via PC-, WiFi-, GPRS/UMTS- or bluetooth link because they are also Client-Server connections. Normal business!!! Don't change it.

Be careful with activesync or other changes incl. registry. No push means also no SMS or MMS! As i try to understand in the last hours i found round about 40 different push ways, not allways active but preconfigured for different carriers/sources on the HD.

Please look at the link in my post #80. Very interesting!
[Touch HD General] fredyfire:
...same thing here in switzerland. after 10x errors the update arrived complete yesterday late afternoon.
[Touch HD General] gt112:
How in gods name do we make this **** stop.

I dont want forced updates !

I dont want an update system that does not work !

I dont want an update screen nagging me every few minutes !

If there are criticail updates that I need, I want to instigate the upgrade, I will go to their dam website and download (pull). I do not want updates forced upon me especially as covert and sinister as this ****
[Touch HD General] degake:
Mine still fails....
[Touch HD General] buggybug0:
this has nothing to do with activesync, the only reason you get the notification when you connected to your computer is because you have pass-through-> accessing internet through active sync.

anytime the phone has acess to the net, wifi, edge, 3g, activesync, it will get the notification.

in anycase, my installation was succesful, but the phone seems to hang once in a while. i had to reset it two times today. but this may just be me and my paranoia
[Touch HD General] degake:
anyone else who can't connect to Windows update anymore??
[Touch HD General] kokkie:
Still can't connect to Windows update :mad:
[Touch HD General] degake:
welke melding krijg jij, wanneer je probeert?
[Touch HD General] speed200:
No problems here with windows update, but with resco update I get error.
[Touch HD General] degake:
Resco update works fine with me...
[Touch HD General] gt112:
Did you read my earlier posts at all ?

Today I tried an experiment.

1. I Hard Reset the phone

2. On a fresh install, I configured wifi and connected to net

3. I configured 3g and connected to the net

4. I waited an hour

5. I then connected the phone to laptop via Activesync. within a few seconds the "new connections database" update popped up.

ActiveSyns was the initial trigger. Prior to using it, the update did not appear at all even though the phone was connected to the net for over an hour (yes a full hour, I did not let it go into standby during that time. also during that time I did some browsing to verify connection etc)
[Touch HD General] gt112:
can we keep this in English ?
[Touch HD General] degake:
Whoops, sorry...

Forgotten to write in English :-p
[Touch HD General] gt112:
OK regarding my earlier experiment, I have just now repeated it. This time the "new connection database" popped up without ever having connected the phone to Activesync.

So my earlier conclusion that activesync was triggering it would seem to be wrong.
[Touch HD General] kevinniven:
Same here

I was able to download and install with no problem. It did take about five trys.

I'm on AT&T in the USA
[Touch HD General] gt112:
If HTC are saying that they know nothing about this push update, then should we be worried? could it be virus/malware ?

Where do you think its coming from?
[Touch HD General] jeannot61:
???

HTC Confirmed they didn't send the update..so I still ask the question, WHO SENT IT?? Operators of all countries at the same time? very suspicious ... malware ?
[Touch HD General] tkalli:
Good to know. My HD arrives today.

Thanks for the information.

:)

​
[Touch HD General] chr5s11:
This update is really annoying. I've tried to download it about twenty times (HSDPA, two different W-LAN, Active Sync) and it alway fails.
[Touch HD General] Guus_:
Vodafone netherlands

This message pops up all day long, did a few softresets and tried installing it very time, over Wifi and the Vodafone network, no success.

How the hell can I disable this automatic update? :mad:
[Touch HD General] chr5s11:
That's what I would like to know as well. Everytime the HD establishes a new internet connection it tries to download this crap and fails everytime.

There are three registry entries (HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Services\ConnSetupDload, HKCU\Software\HTC\ConnectionSetup and HKLM\Software\HTC\ConnSetupDload), but I don't know what to do with these.
[Touch HD General] speed200:
It was a temporary thing, now all is ok.

Now the only thing is thinking that in a case of needing HR that annoying message will came back.:mad:

And like always not a word from HTC:mad::mad::mad:
[Touch HD General] degake:
Has anyone already tried to contact Windows?

I think it might be an update from them, cause it's strange Windows Update doesn't work as well...

(And when I try to enter Windows Update, get the error message and leave, the update appears.)
[Touch HD General] fasty:
Slightly concerned about malware, I did a WHOIS, which seems to report something to do with HTC USA :

whois -h whois.arin.net 208.188.89.139

AT&T Internet Services SBCIS-SIS80 (NET-208-188-0-0-1)

208.188.0.0 - 208.191.255.255 HTC USA SBCIS-092503101858 (NET-208-188-89-128-1)

208.188.89.128 - 208.188.89.143 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-12-02 19:10

Excuse my ignorance, I'm no good at interpreting this data. Someone else maybe...
[Touch HD General] tkalli:
Found this using Google.

Need a good translation. May or may not be related to current issue.

Sorry if it is not.

http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=25754&pid=168265&st=0&#entry168265

Este update aparece reflectido nos programas instalados pelo que em caso de Hard reset volta-se ao mesmo.

No entanto descobri a pasta que é criada e fiz um backup que deixo agora aqui para todos aqueles que ainda não conseguiram fazer o update.

Basta deszipar o ficheiro e copiar a pasta através do explorador para : Windows/AppMgr

Depois digam se resolveu a questão, ou seja se já não aparece a tal mensagem.

Need a good translation. May not be related to current issue.

Google Translation

This update appears reflective we installed programs that hair in case of Hard-be reset volta ao mesmo.

However descobri paste that is bred and fiz um backup that DEIXA agora here for all those who still did not conseguiram Fazer or update.

Simply deszipar or copy and paste ficheiro through browser to do: Windows / AppMgr​

Depois Tell me is the question of resolveu, ou seja já não appears to be such a message

Customization_DB25.BlackStone_WDS100208.zip

http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=14239

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