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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
Its still assumptions . So what you said its considered a lie unless you can proove it otherwise . Most probably you'll be sanctioned . And all the forum will be happy 😉
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] SyCoREAPER:
Let this post act as a reminder to

everyone

.

Please stay on topic and do not engage in flaming and disrespectful conversations with one another.

If you have an issue that is rule breaking, do not engage the individual, use the report button and we will deal with it.

Thank you - SyCoREAPER
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Sorry but, it was a useless comment. Spying? Okay so you accuse the Chinese of spying? How can you trust other messaging/calling apps more than the Chinese apps? Don't you think other apps are spying?

Just throw your phone in the bin & don't buy one again if you feel you're being spied on.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
I just got warned because im stating facts regarding him. You cant talk via assumptions forever, 0 proofs. Vivo name its not appearing in the document he showed, he influences new potential buyers and so on. It was a useless comment like 90% of the what he speaks . But well... It is what it is .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
He's accusing a specific race of people of spying, basically he's being racist. He's the one who should have been warned. Not you.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
China as a state is not a race. There are several races of people living there, the biggest is Han...

It's well known that the PRC has different rules regarding data security and privacy vs Europe or America. Also clearly as the above study has shown the producers are aware of this and only spy/transmit personal data on their China OS not on their global OS.

I don't doubt that USA and EU also spy, but not to such a high degree. See the discussions around Signal messenger and it's clear that USA/Europe would like more data too. However so far Signal is only forbidden to be used in China. It's well known and acknowledged that WeChat doesn't even send some messages if they contain certain content, like references to Winnie the Pooh and Xi Jingping. So a proper debloat of a vivo phone with China (PRC) OS must include phone and messenger to be spyware free. The same rules that apply to WeChat of course also apply to any sort of messenger/telephone call used inside China.

Vivo phones with funtouch OS instead of Origin OS very likely only send some metadata without permission to China as shown in the study but no personal data.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] SyCoREAPER:
I reminded everyone to stay on topic and it immediately went back to off-topic. This is a thread about debloating, period. Not politics or witchhunts.

Thread is locked until/unless OP requests it be reopened.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] SyCoREAPER:
I am reopening this at the request of a few individuals in the thread.

This is a (second) stern reminder to stay on topic. This thread is being monitored.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] luontokoodaus:
I did not expect to see this unlocked, so I made a new thread here: https://xdaforums.com/t/debloat-script-v2-6-vivo-x90-pro.4556209/

Though we can continue in this thread, however I think there is a LOT of off-topic and outdated information here. So I would recommend that we post in the new thread I made and please heed the mod's warning to keep things strictly on-topic.

The new thread still has a link to this one if people need to follow it back for any reason.

Thanks and enjoy your day.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] rudabb:
Completely agreeb
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
@Thanos88 Hi can you please tell me if you managed to solve the issue where WhatsApp's floating notifications (aka chat bubbles) don't pop up and only the icon appears in the status bar whilst the phone is unlocked?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
Nope no fix, Vivo said they'd send a update to fix it but they haven't
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
@Thanos88 damn... It's the only gripe I have with this phone. I contacted Vivo UK and they said there is nothing they can do since it's a Chinese model. Anyway thanks for the reply.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] luontokoodaus:
Just wanted to say you are a lifesaver. Thanks. You prevented me from having to reset my phone.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Find791:
Have you found a way to fix recent apps with the 3 buttons bar ? I am in the exact situation. But I use KISS launcher. Vivo Launcher takes so much battery.

Thanks man !
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] MaikTheMachine:
Hi,

i removed some of the apps (not all) with the debloat-Script. Now the weather-app keeps crashing when i try to open it. The widget is still working.

Does anybody know, which package could it be that i have to re enable?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] luontokoodaus:
Check the list...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] MaikTheMachine:
I did this already. But there are like a hundered packages. I've already reactivated a few that I thought might have something to do with it, but unfortunately that didn't help.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] nightm:
Hi, just to let you know, we are finally able to remove via adb even previously uninstallable apps thanks to hack described here - https://stackoverflow.com/a/75192739/1616437 . Basically e.g.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
Someone has done this with the X90 PRO PLUS. It would be very interesting if applications such as WhatsApp, Facebook, etc. can be added. To the nanoalerts. OriginsOS already lets you clone Google apps. This sounds like hope 😅
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] pastorek88:
I can ask for advice on how to remove such applications vivocloud, Lens kit, Jovi Lens, Themes
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Seems with next update impossible to remove vivo.pem anymore as it will also show user restricted message. So anyone who hasn't removed it by then good bye notifications...

Its already the case on vivo x fold (2).

Vivo really seems to know how to make their O.S. even worse.

If this continues like this then by android 14 adb will be useless as you then can only use it to remove apps that you could remove via O.S. app manager anyhow...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
Devils! I seriously don't know how they want to expand globally. 🤦
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
I think they don't care about that.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Well it fits perfectly into the strategy that the Chinese decide how you should use your phone and which apps work reliably, which apps are working but cumbersome and which apps will be blocked by censorship.

Because apps like WhatsApp, Instagram or especially tinder are quite common in China for people who have some connections with outside China (that's a minority, but still at least hundred million people). The great firewall, leaky banning of VPN and so where always at least as much to support Chinese software houses as they where a tool to censor people. That we cannot remove vivo.pem anymore on phones intended for Chinese market only is just a strengthening of this principle. And unlike Xiaomi for which exports due to bootloader unlock and flashable global ROM are actually a small but significant market, they aren't for vivo.

That's also why Vivo has not blocked band 20. They intend to provide a phone that is usable in the way the Chinese government seems fit only, so if your phone outright doesn't work for people who want to use apps/tools that are not intended to be used by Chinese government, you don't need to remove band 20 and annoy the hordes of Chinese tourists when they travel to Europe.

Every os update so far made adg debloat harder and less effective by blocking more and more apps to be removed. Vivo.pem is just the final and most important one for user experience. That you cannot (easily) remove the spyware tools vivo.abe and push.notifications was a kick on experienced users, that you cannot remove vivo.pem is a kick in the but of mainstream users to comply with Chinese authority app choices. Because those Chinese users that use foreign apps most also remove vivo.pem.

Should vivo decide to reinstall vivo.pem via a firmware update, eg update to origin OS 4, then it's game over.

The only strange thing is that vivo is alone with that vivo.pem app so far in BBK. Their other brands don't have it yet and you can get notifications to work for all apps without debloat.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] allonssvp:
Has anyone found a workaround to remove com.vivo.pem (on x fold 2) yet? I am not getting any notifications at all
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
@allonssvp you don't need to remove com.vivo.pem or any system packages to get notifications to work

- Allow 'high power consumption' (probably not even needed)

- Allow the 'auto start' permission

- Configure notifications (different apps have different defaults where some only enable sound or silent notifications with no bubbles)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] allonssvp:
I see thanks, turning on autostart does seem to work for FB messenger at least. However it's quite annoying to turn on for every app so I wanted a general solution
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
There are plenty of apps where this isn't enough, for example signal. Only get notifications after removing vivo.pem.

Above is even needed with vivo.pem removed.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
@allonssvp I agree but fortunately you only need to do it once
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] allonssvp:
As extremecarver mentioned, this does not seem to work for all apps including gmail for some reason.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
@allonssvp that's the same person who believes a factory reset somehow modifies the OS causing integrity issues. Personally haven't experienced a single issue with receiving notifications in all the months I've had this phone but your mileage may vary of course.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
what rubbish if you mean I belive a factory reset causes OS integrity issues - reread the topic concerning TS. And I don't believe a factory reset can clean up the mess that TS did on those phones. The only way to fix them would be to flash a clean untampered OS which doesn't seem possible. I believe TS tampered the OS image they play onto that phone (likely being able to sign the OS with their own key). Or alternatively they mess using vtool apk. There are some videos on youku that show that Chinese users have been able to access blocked areas on that phone, that allow quite a lot of messing around. No one here on xdr has been able to get into those service menus. As those menus are in Chinese I'm a bit unsure about some of their settings - but it seems like a full blown service menu allowing to tamper a lot. I'm pretty sure TS has access to this X90pro+ compatible vtool.apk (it is different from the one that is shared on xdr)

And yeah if I remember right gmail also doesn't work with vivo.pem installed. Also google alarm if I remember right. I tried once re installing vivo.pem, alls things set to allow/autostart and so on - but some apps just miss notifications for long time (like one hour dely if phone was display off for 15 minutes or longer before) with it installed.

It's possible to remove the vivo power management all together, it's several packages - Then there is no more autostart menu entry, it also removes the menu entry for high battery power management. Maybe in that case vivo.pem becomes irrelevant. You will then just need to start all apps manually because autostart is gone for good, as is however vivos power management. Strangely dark mode/ vibration mode are then still breaking notifcations from showing before turning screen on (logs show that the notifcations do arrive)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Usually i fully disagree with everything he writes because it's just nonsense and cluelessness but I fear in this case he is right.

I really wish there was another solution without messing with some system apps because there is always the risk to break something important. But for some apps it's really needed to remove vivo.pem because everything else just isn't enough. I have also seen some people here on xda or telegram who confirmed that.

However before messing with adb and removing pem i would suggest everyone to try what you wrote before.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
I have X90 PRO+ and no app fails me with Facebook, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, Gmail, Outlook and bank app notifications. The only app that doesn't ring but vibrates and arrives on time is Messager. This is always in dark mode.

I just gave permissions to everything and high power source all that and I removed com.vivo.pem also remove the smart control notifications permission in notifications. I don't know if the telephone company has anything to do with it. I'm from Mexico and I use TELCEL.

I remember that before you couldn't clone the apps and now you can several, I still hope that they do something in favor of the nanoalerts and that the app icons appear always on display.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
So far there are no reports that your telco provider has anything to do with it. At least apart from chinese telcos. But if it's foreign, it should not matter which one at all.

China Unicom and China mobile do have branded X90PP which come with some more apps preinstalled (I don't know if you can or cannot remove them). Well possible those are different. But it is super unlikely you get such a device outside of China.

BTW - all apps that can be removed/disabled via standard adb uninstall can also be disabled via swiftbackup in shizuku mode. Just install shizuku, connect it, and then you can quickly disable/enable quite a lot of system apps. of course not the annoying ones which have some sort of protection (swiftbackup is the only tool that works from all I tested so far - those that need special treatment like call service or require password for uninstall - cannot be disabled via swiftbackup. Also it only has a disable function no adb uninstall. It does provide people a way to adb disable apps who don't want to use command line or have no computer available).
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] allonssvp:
Yes, isn't it because you removed com.vivo.pem? The problem that I have is that vivo seems to have completely blocked the method to remove this package, causing many of my notifications not to come at all
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
You can try to solve it with shizuku.

Try if any app freezer like freezeyou hail or icebox works to freeze vivo.pem

Alternatively try to cripple vivo.pem by removing it's permissions and operations with package manager (Shizuku).

Maybe some lsposed mods (via lspatch) allow breaking vivo.pem or downgrading then removing or crippling.

The last thing you could try is to use some Shizuku based apk patcher that cripples vivo.pem

But this cannot be discussed here as the patchers have quite some black hat features, second you need to repeat it on every update of vivo.pem that comes with system updates.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] rudabb:
Ditto..did my head in ..tried so hard not to rremove it..but too many apps Gmail included did not send the message through. Nothing ..
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ohlalayeah:
is there a global rom to flash? china stock rom is troublesome
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
@ohlalayeah no. This phone is a China exclusive, so there's just OriginOS.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
看来 X90 PRO PLUS 的 Fountoch OS 14 即将到来。虽然仍有疑问，但也只是暂时的。

Mod translation: It looks like Foundoch OS 14 for X90 PRO PLUS is coming soon. While there are still doubts, they are only temporary.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
Where did you source this information from?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
FuntouchOS 14 Update - Release Date, New Features - New Update

FuntouchOS 14 Update will Officially Release on Vivo and iQOO Smartphones, FuntouchOS 14 Internal Beta Testing has Already Started in China.

newupdate.tech
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Tiverask:
There's nothing about the X90 Pro+ on that page though... Where did you quote that from?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
Ellos también lo harán pero quieren evitar los errores que casi siempre cometen. En este momento, iQOO 11 y X90 PRO se pueden actualizar manualmente en la versión beta para registrar errores.

Mod translation: They will too but they want to avoid the mistakes they almost always make. At this time, iQOO 11 and X90 PRO can be manually updated in the beta version to record bugs.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Bl3s:
I very much doubt X90 pro plus will get funtouch. X90 and x90 pro were available globally (well, outside China) so they had Funtouch OS available from start (and Origin in China), whereas X90 pro plus was China exclusive and you couldn't get it with Funtouch anywhere even if you wanted.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] @amit_kumarr:
Hlo guys,

I uninstalled system apps and some services by adb

But now my OTG function not working 😢😢

Help Friends

Anyone knows what I need to reinstall ?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] matchung:
try: settings -> apps & permissons -> recover uninstalled system apps
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
¿Alguien ha notado esto? ¿Cómo es posible que una aplicación como truecaller aparezca en OriginsOS X90 PRO PLUS siempre en pantalla?

Mod translation....AGAIN! Has anyone noticed this? How can an app like truecaller appear in OriginOS X90 PRO PLUS always on screen?

Spoiler content hidden.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Badger50:
Greetings. As a "very last time" courtesy, I have translated your last 3 posts. Please allow me to remind you of XDA Rule #4 which is expected of all XDA members:

Spoiler content hidden.

Your cooperation is greatly appreciated.

-Badger50
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Fabgab:
try youtube revanced. also manager apk..
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
He puesto de fabrica X90PRO+, pero ya no puedo borrar com.vivo.wallet y com.iqoo.secure, ahora siento que la carga se drena más rápido que antes, no se si sean esas apps que no logró eliminar.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] sina2:
Greeting

Question, I used your script on my Vivo x90 pro+ and everything is fine except my camera crashes it makes a pretty bad picture.

Any help?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alekos89:
Hello everyone..I bought the x90 pro Plus and I also try to get rid of some Chinese stuff.. at the moment everything works okay except the always on display that seems has disappeared.. can't even have a choice to set-interact anymore .. can someone help me to bring it back to my device with adb? Btw I don't really need it .. but everything seems working good except that one.. also I can say I use muviz edge for aod and is awesome!
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
You've removed too many apps, that script is too aggressive, you lose several functions. (like the sidebar) I did a manual debloat and I have a list of apps that when removed cause problems :) The application of the Always On is called com.vivo.nightpearl

Try to see if it works
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alekos89:
Side bar it's ok.. most of apps still can't remove via scripts .. when u run it most of them in the list required root access.. so maybe somethings changed for vivo or.... thanks for the command.. I see if it works later 😀
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] caocaolatre199x:
This script is no longer work on Origin OS 4. Someone has any solution?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alekos89:
4? When you get that update? I have os3
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
I use adb app control

Watch the discussion "New update in trial version"

The beta is out.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] caocaolatre199x:
I just received the official Origin os 4 two days ago. This is the official version, not a trial/dev version.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] caocaolatre199x:
Can you elaborate on how to use adb app control? Do you have a new command to delete system apps because vivo has blocked the old command.

Origin os 4 on my phone is the official version. I have never participated in vivo's beta.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] alekos89:
I have to say that I am blocked ATM.. 😭 says can't connect to them.. so I believe I must factory reset it.. and then hopefully I get that update to.. well I think it's better to let the phone as it was before any script-adb.. just put a launcher maybe and disable hide some apps..
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] BlackJack'89:
For adb app control there is the appropriate topic.

On the topic of debloat there are several lists to use on app control, put up by Extreme

At the very least, I can put them on too.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Juanjo0op11:
Ya no lo permite, lo único que deja quitar con adb es la aplicación de Browser.

También da permisos manuales a una aplicación que el sistema no quiere.

lo que me interesa quitar es el modo enfoque-no molestar, eso interrumpe la aplicación que ocupan permiso de accesibilidad.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] caocaolatre199x:
I will use adb app control. Thank you for your suggestion.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] cyberdick:
we you able to debloat using adb app control?? is your os android 14?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] caocaolatre199x:
Yes, I am Android 14. After updating to Origin OS 4, the operating system is Android 14. Actually, on Origin OS 4, everything is very good. Most applications can be deleted by usual without using debugging. The notice of the applications is not as slow as on Origin OS 3. I have used ADB App Control, some apps may be (browser, baidu input, video player,...), but some can not be removed (cloud, vivo.com,...). You can try it. Good luck.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] cyberdick:
I tried ADB app control on my IQoo 14 with funtouch os 14 and couldn't uninstall most of the apps, heres the full adb log.

I even asked the dev of ADB AppControl he said this :(
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] caocaolatre199x:
Find a USB cab and connect your phone to your computer instead of wifi. In ADB App Control, I only choose disable unwanted applications instead of deleting them. For applications that cannot be disable or removed, I use Nova Launcher to hide them. My phone is almost no longer the existence of Chinese applications.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] cyberdick:
I can't disable either, I trued using ADB App control via USB and not network, same issue. I use nova launcher too so those apps are still active somewhat but hidden. thats it
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] lakdeuz:
Does anyone found a way to debloat origine os on android 14? it seems iimpossible right now to remove some apps, especially the spyware ones
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Der Phaleristiker:
I also have the Same Problem when trying to delete system Apps Like com.vivo.pm via minimal adb and flashboot or adb App Control I get the Message : DELETE_FAILED_USER_RESTRICTED

Ist there a way to geht around this right Now?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] briansio:
unfortunately, android 13 - the permission manager under call service is becoming legacy, the new code is 192 instead of 131 in android 14, however i believe there has to be certain parameter changes that will allow for disabling those app.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
It won't help, Vivo locked everything down. The worst thing are the new parameter updates which mess around in privacy and access rights constantly.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Thanos88:
I would give this 100 likes if I could 😂

Now that's what I call debloating !! 👌😂😂

So the top half of the list, are all of those apps 100% safe to remove without causing any issues ? Will any of the apps in the top half cause anything to break?

PS be sure to test the phone fully to make sure everything still works , look forward to your reply 😌
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Pervokur:
you can do a lot of stuff with uid1000 (system), even tweaking kernel, changing prop, restarting surfaceflinger with new prop values

just try to install vivo's app and execute commands through "jdb"

https://xdaforums.com/t/hacking-and...t-not-root-how-to-escalate-privilege.3417498/
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Nice. Yes, I noticed that some things can be achieved as user 1000. Do you have a link for any tutorial on how to use jdb?

Also, I managed to replace the launcher and get gestures without creating a Vivo account.

I installed "Nova Launcher" and "My Gestures", but other apps should work the same.

Here's what I did:

1. Install Nova and My Gestures and configure them

2. Grant "Accessibility" and "Display Over Other Apps" to My Gestures (me.hisn.mygesture) and disable power saving for My Gestures:

"settings put secure enabled_accessibility_services me.hisn.mygesture"

"pm grant me.hisn.mygesture android.permission.SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW"

"dumpsys deviceidle whitelist +me.hisn.mygesture"

4. Open Nova Settings (important!)

5. Disable Vivo Launcher

"service call package 131 s16 com.bbk.launcher2 i32 0 i32 0"

6. Set Nova as default in Nova Settings