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[Redmi Note 10 Pro] dexter.kuw:
Checkout the website here for the recovery that works for the rom you using.. it has been fixed.

not by me, i'm just sharing it for whoever has this issue like me ;)
[Windows Mobile Themes] oscarbum:
Props to DAVID LANHAM! He apparently designed these icons that I lifted from other various themes from iPhones to Desktops. Here is the new and final comprehensive version of Stickerface.

First person to say Winterface sucks, still ugly, etc. loses three internets. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

File in zip title "wicons_x2" is placed in Program Files/Weather/skins/bin

In addition, place the file "weather_icons" in BOTH the Weather AND Winterface skins/bin folders.

Zip file with everything is in Post #6.
[Windows Mobile Themes] Leonick:
haha lol :p personally i think it looks awsome, havnt got around to trying though

quite good icons you got their too, though personally i think i would stay with the black and white ones which seems to be standard :p
[Windows Mobile Themes] oscarbum:
And personally, I'd be inclined to agree with you since the default icons also match nicely if you're using SMS-Chat, FunContact, Weather, Eye Photo and ZoomBoard. VITO does a really nice job of making all of their products uniform.

That said, it's a rather lazy choice of colors. I would love it if they would release new versions of Winterface, Weather and EyePhoto to go with the alternate skins of SMS-Chat, FunContact and ZoomBoard, which is much more cheerful.
[Windows Mobile Themes] oscarbum:
Icons for the free VITO Weather application now posted in #1.
[Windows Mobile Themes] shyherng:
Tahnk you, that's fab!!!

However, can you plz post "wicons_x2" again?

I just cannot find the file.
[Windows Mobile Themes] oscarbum:
Sorry about that. Here it is.
[Windows Mobile Themes] cjmedina:
downloading now gonna see if it works on my touch pro. i just posted a review on this gonna have to update it with the new skin
[Windows Mobile Themes] timolos:
This is awesome! How can we make our own icons?

This is great! The original Winterface icons are difficult to see in direct sunlight on my HTC Titan. These more vivid icons address that problem. Question: how did you do this? How can we make our own icons for Winterface - which programs are needed?

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Themes] character:
Photoshop usually
[Windows Mobile Themes] oscarbum:
I used Gimp which is pretty much the same thing. And once you get used to it, it's not even all that time consuming. I've taken a few cracks at creating other themes (Neon is coming soon) and finding the icons to use takes more time than it does to tweak them for Winterface. Just a matter of resizing, copy and paste. The key is saving it correctly (16-bit, R5G6B5) or you can mess other things up (the Realize theme causes the Task Manager to close the program.)
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] dotdox:
getting this error in sp flash tool
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] jericho246:
I guess I'll start with some pictures I've taken.

My first pic with this phone. Zeiss Natural Color was OFF here.

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Zoom test. I think this was around 25-35x zoom.

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"Sports mode" test. Colors are wonky, but still impressive.

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Low light test

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And a few more:

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
Guys, could you please share some more pictures (especially night ones and made outside)? I hesitate to upgrade my x70 pro plus or not.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] aspj1111:
Playing around with some filters
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] aspj1111:
One more!
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] aspj1111:
One is indoor extremely dark room..
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Vinzie:
Went to the zoo recently, these 2 photo's came out great (if you ask me)

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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] andrejd1:
Some of my snaps, including zoom lens testing and raw photos.

Vivo x90pp

60 new items added to shared album

photos.app.goo.gl
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] hirsti:
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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Kenshin1870:
Here you go, some beauty of my country
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
Guys, who has both x90 pro plus and x70 pro plus on hand? if someone has both devices, please post full-size night photos for comparison (preferably taken outdoors, not indoors). I just can not decide whether it is worth updating to the 90th. For me, only the camera is important, other aspects (display, processor, battery do not matter). Thanks in advance.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] DeltaForce88:
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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
Can you please post this photo, but full size?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
About 3x zoom .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
not enough sharpness!
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] ChromaX83:
Taken with gcam

First three are main lens, 2x and 3,5x tele lens.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] maxel77:
Not bad..
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
This is my picture of yesterday's moon😎
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] vendetta17:
I love how the supermoon mode captures the moon when not zoomed in .
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Haskren:
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[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] RagnarsGarage:
Some of mine...
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Vivo X90 Pro Plus [PHOTOGRAPHY]

645 new items added to shared album

photos.app.goo.gl

If anyone's interested, you can add your photos taken with the X90Pro+ here👍🏻
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Haskren:
Took this handheld in my girlfriend's garden last night. Only the lamps on the fence were providing light, it was very dark.

Yes, it does not look natural, but it's beauty not visible to the naked eye, and shows what can be achieved with a large sensor and market leading camera tech. If I want it to look natural, I will shoot in pro mode.

Her son has an S22 - noisy mess and struggled with focus. Shaky photos as the shutterspeed was too long.

I don't believe any other phone can achieve this level of detail, combined with amazing highlight retention and low noise - handheld.

EDIT: zooming in on the picture after uploading is not as sharp as on my mac - seems details is lost when hosting on xda
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
How did you take this? Just stock camera and night mode and then edited?
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Haskren:
Stock camera, night mode and slight adjustment in phone camera app
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Haskren:
Good for you
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] sniperwolf101:
At least post something and prove it. I wanna know what my next phone is and if a 1" sensor is marketing ****e or not. lets see a pic
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Haskren:
Made another post about my thoughts.

https://xdaforums.com/t/used-the-vivo-professionally.4558025/

Been a pro photographer for 15 years. Not just marketing bull. We leave that to Samsung.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
Yes, 1" sensor is a marketing bullchit))) Take a look on these pictures.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
You serious? All i see is overprocessed and sharpened garbage. Not even to mention that terrible noise in the dark areas or sky.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
Where have you seen noice?) Regarding sharpness, it can be reduced. I just like sharp pictures. But X90PP lacks sharpness.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
In the other picture you just removed. Stop cheating pls.😉
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] sniperwolf101:
They look good. But I'm with P6P on this, compared to Haskren's shot, they're noisy and over sharpened compared to the x90pp night shots. Almost like it was taken with an s23u
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Well and there we are again... the 200mp sensor is a marketing gimmick.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
@Lexxmark if you say for the pics you have used a proper gcam config I'm speechless. It looks more like renamed stock pics only. Proper gcam should look different.

Check the attached pics. They're not taken by me and that's also not my config. They're just some random nightshot pics of the x90 pro plus. The config looks also bad but you can see it goes into the right direction. With some improvements it would be pretty nice.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Lexxmark:
It was just a bad shot. Today I will take a couple of night shots with normal sharpness (without oversharpening) and post them. Then we will talk again😉
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Well I won't stop you to try that, but let me tell you i have used the pixel 6 and pixel 7 pro for a long time. They are using the same GN1 sensor as the x70 pro plus. I really like the sensor but honestly it can't hold up with the imx 989 sensor, especially at night. With gcam mod certainly not. Sure it's still a matter of taste but the imx 989 handles noise the best, or capturing details. Haven't seen any other sensor doing such a great job.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Dayuser:
I also like sharp and noiseless pictures but still these photos are oversharped.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Haskren:
Why are we even having this conversation?!?

It's a proven fact that Vivo's implementation of the 1" sensor has big advantages in low light and natural bokeh. It's s proven fact that the main sensor gathers more light and controls noise better, has a toned down sharpening algorithm and overall cleaner images than flagships like the S23u.

Yes, people are used to seeing what appears like extreme detail, but it's often an over sharpened mess when zooming in. Furthermore, people are not used to working with the larger sensor and don't understand how important accurate focus is. That there is now a depth of field aspect to be aware of.

And contrary to some feedback, AF is great on this phone. Tracking my son at sport events, indoor, low light, zoom, and I can still get crisp, low noise pictures in sport mode. Unheard of in mobile photography.

So let's not waist more time on this pointless argument. If you own the king of photography, you know you made the right choice. Might be a bit of a learning curve for some to extract the most from it, but it truly is an amazing photography tool.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Weird conversation, yes. I have tested many different phones and I can tell you this:

- The 1" sensor is

not

a marketing gimmick.

- The 200MP is also

not

a marketing gimmick.

It just depends on what you need. The X90Pro+ however is the best "all round" camera phone, that's indisputable. It has the best mix of sensors and almost no weaknesses.

But

a bigger sensor is not automatically better. The image processing is just as important. For example, the iPhone 14 Pro with its 1/1.3" sensor actually captures a lot more detail in 48MP ProRAW mode than the Vivo X90Pro+ in high resolution mode.

Sounds strange? How can a much smaller sensor with the same megapixel count capture more detail??

It's because Vivo's image processor is very, very bad at demosaicing. Demosaicing (or debayering) is the process of recovering the actual color from the image sensor's bayer pattern and it's very complicated maths (especially with quad-bayer patterns which are of course only 12.5MP). And, again, Vivo is very bad at it. Zoom into a 50MP image from the Vivo stock cam and you can see a lot of strange color artifacts that destroy the details. The true detail in Vivo's 50MP images is more like 20MP.

Interestingly, Google is extremely good at recovering as much detail as possible from a 12.5MP (quad-)bayer pattern. With GCam and 2x upscaling enabled, you get more detail. Again, how is that possible? How can upscaling a 12.5MP image produce more detail? It's because the bayer pattern is only 12.5MP anyway and Google has a very clever demosaicing algorithm that works on the upscaled image.

With GCam you can get approximately 30MP of "true" detail. More than the Vivo stock camera and about the same as the (much smaller) iPhone 14 Pro sensor.

The 200MP Samsung sensor is actually able to capture "true" 50MP images, i.e. the amount of detail you can actually see in the image is approximately 50MP.

So 200MP is

not

a marketing gimmick. It's useful if you're planning to print reaaally large images with as much resolution as possible.

And the 1" sensor is also

not

a marketing gimmick, because it captures much better images in less than optimal lighting conditions.

Vivo wins hands down for noise-free images in any situation, especially indoors or at night. Which is probably what most people need :)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
No offends but again this isn't true. I know you have posted a comparison already back some time but i did the same and proved the opposite.

I see you still haven't spoken to any gcam mod dev otherwise you wouldn't believe what you wrote. I would recommend you to ask Bigkaka he's the AGC dev and the most friendly. Please just do it.

Don't ask Shamim since he doesn't have a clue about upscaling. He was the one who started to implement that, after all the other devs dropped it a long time ago.

I think you mix upscaling in Gcam with full res mod, these are two different things.

Easy explanation:

- upscaling captures a 12.5MP pictures and scales it up to whatever you want

- full res mod takes the pic in 50mp or whatever the sensor is capable to capture and there is no afterward upscaling

Edit: i have attached two pics to show you.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Yes it is... 😂

Not sure what you proved or who you spoke to, but they clearly have no idea then.

It's also really easy to prove that GCam captures more detail and you can reproduce it a thousand times with the same result.

I'm not saying GCam actually produces 50MP images, because it doesn't. But neither does the stock camera.

The image sensor itself only has a 12.5MP bayer pattern. The difference is in the image processing. The stock camera tries to recover a 50MP image from multiple 50MP frames of a 12.5MP bayer pattern, but it's extremely bad at it. GCam tries to recover a 50MP image from multiple 12.5MP frames of a 12.5MP bayer pattern, which it upscales during the demosaicing process, and the result is actually more detailed than the result of the stock image processor.

Again,

neither

is a true 50MP image simply because of the quad bayer filter, but the GCam images are more detailed / closer than the stock high resolution ones, because of the processing.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Oh ok I guess that was not clear enough your answer is pretty confusing and doesn't make sense at all...

First if all gcam processing is completely different to stock camera app. There is no doubt you can get much better pictures with a great gcam config. Im messing with this sh!t with every phone i had and started a long time ago. I'm aware that the 50mp mode with vivos stock camera app is a joke. And honestly I haven't used full res since the mi 11 ultra. Arnova released an hack for that back those days. Sad part is it broke every other camera app.

But when you take a standard gcam picture and then enable upscaling in Gcam mod and take an "upscaled" picture, there is no improvement at all. That's what I tried to explain you all the time. Check my pictures from the other post. Compare them on your computer. It's the same gcam mod, same config but one is with upscaling and the other pic is without.

GCam vs stock = big difference, depends on config

GCam standard vs GCam upscaled = no improvement at all because it's bullsh!t
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
The 1" sensor has some big weaknesses. E.g. Macro or "scanning" documents. It absolutely fails at both, largely due to no variable aperture. Take foot pictures or similar close up things often - the Vivo is really unsuitable. Xiaomi got the Macro right at least - not the food picture part...

The rest of the problems are more to software. Why is Vivo gcam colours/white balance so off? Especially the zoom lenses are virtually impossible to get correct. Samsung more or less has identical colours on gcam vs stock camera... Samsung S23U really excells on gcam so compare S23U gcam vs X90P+ stock cam (because gcam get's colours so wrong it's really luck what happens).

Vivo fails quite often at colour. And if it fails it fails pretty bad. I'm also still at a loss with pictures against sunlight. Vivo just doesn't find a good balance on HDR there (yes such pictures will never be good, but other cams do it much better). Also the preview of Vivo on gcam is horrible when it comes to colours (the colours on preview are identical to stock camera while the result is way different if you apply a colour profile to correct white balance) - and on stock camera have little dynamic range - much less then the resulting picture. So you don't know if or if not the dynamic range is sufficient in many cases where HDR is used (the preview is very good on low light however).

I still think Pixel 7 Pro takes better snapshots. Vivo X90 Pro+ is better if you invest a lot of time. Also the stock camera has too much jpg compression - especially on the periscope zoom 10x or similar. Again gcam can adjust this but X90 Pro+ you need to shoot Raw instead... I do feel that S23U camera overall is more versatile. The selfie cam on the Vivo is much worse than Samsung or Apple (in any aspect). Video Vivo is still not as good as Samsung or Apple either.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
And this is wrong. GCam upscaling produces detail that is absolutely impossible to recover from a 12MP image.

Left is 12MP right is GCam upscaled. Tell me how that is not an improvement :ROFLMAO:

And by the way here is GCam upscaled vs stock 50MP. Which proves GCam upscaling works and even produces more detail than stock 50MP mode.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
That wont bring us further.

I have sent you uncompressed and unedited files. Check them carefully and you will see there is no improvement.

All you did is posting some cropped screenshot. Not prove, no info, just nothing.

Could even be two different phones.🤷🏻‍♂️
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Doesn't matter if you believe me, anyone who has GCam installed (AGC 8.4 v9) can easily verify what I'm saying. :)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
At least you could be fair enough to prove it with proper files.😉
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Here you go: https://schicks.digital/download/d7...#3I/v3xuesF27nwj5Syei9IXhhTC9SpE3FValtwB91qU=

Some screenshot from the uploaded images:
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
Are you sure you're not falling trap to simple jpg compression? Try looking at RAW files for details.

A lot of why Gcam is sharper on 10x vs the default camera is jpg compression (well save for the super lousy edge detection or whatever the standard camera does to text at 10x or higher which is just horrible when looked at 1:1 or even 200% zoom)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
It doesn't work with RAW files because as I said, it's not true 50MP but it's part of the processing pipeline.

No, it has nothing to do with jpg compression.

All phone cameras / imaging processing pipelines these days make use of stacking multiple frames, to increase dyamic range, sharpness, decrease noise etc.

By upscaling the raw data during processing, especially before demosaicing, it's possible to increase the true resolution. It could be done with "pseudo" RAW files like Apple ProRAW, which are actually stacked, processed and demosaiced, but GCam doesn't offer this.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Now I'm even more confused... Why do you send me Mi 10 Pro pics lol
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Told you I accidentially uploaded the wrong ones :ROFLMAO:

I edited the post with the correct link: https://schicks.digital/download/d749afef-1d93-4f87-8512-84b9691e400a#3I/v3xuesF27nwj5Syei9IXhhTC9SpE3FValtwB91qU=

Screenshots above are from the Vivo X90Pro+ of course. But yes it also works with the Mi 10 Pro ;)

And again, don't believe me, anyone can verify it by installing AGC 8.4 v9 and taking some pictures.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Thanks for the files I'm going to have a conversation with bigkaka about that. ✌🏻
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Just for completeness, here is the comparison between GCam 2x and stock camera high resolution.

In this case, stock camera is sharper, but you can see very strange fuzzyness / color artifacts in the trees which is the result of Vivo's bad demosaicing algorithm.

Both are not true 50MP (which is impossible because of the 12.5MP quad bayer pattern) but both are more detailed than the 12.5MP version.

And of course GCam colors are completely broken 😩
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Honestly I have no clue why AGC has such weird results. I have also contacted Bigkaka and waiting for his reply.

Well colors are easy to fix but you'll probably need 2 different configs.

I haven't figured out a way to make one config for daylight shots or dark inside shots. Also some guys on telegram weren't able to do that.

It was easier on mi 11 ultra or Pixel devices for example.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Yes you need two configs, that's impractical and also if you mess something up, GCam keeps crashing until you reinstall/clear data 😩
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
That's why I switched to another mod which doesn't have this issues. Seems like bigkaka has more issues than expected.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] extremecarver:
That's exactly why I say S23U is actually the better camera overall. Because Colours are as good or better as stock on gcam. I put up some colour profiles for AGC but they do not work perfectly. Stock camera already really doesn't have a good colour balance for me (Zeiss is often boring, Normal mode is often cartoonish) but gcam is simply a gamble. Plus every vivo software upgrade so far changed the gcam colours a lot. And strange thing being that colours on viefinder preview are identical to stock (non Zeiss) mode.

And yeah needs at least 2 profiles - one day one night. But actually I guess even more. How comes Samsung gcam doesn't have this problem? Gcam should not be about colours at all but about the rest - means the camera2api outputs some rubbish colours or vivo forgot/didn't add their colour correction profile to camer2api.

Is it so difficult to create a colour profile? All that is needed would be a manual white balance tool shooting a white/gray paper then analysing this data for different light situations and create a good profile.

And no I don't have crashes with bigkaka. I don't change some areas of settings anymore either however. Other gcams like Shanmin colours are way off too.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Dayuser:
Upscaling image does not improve image quality and that is fact.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
Of course it doesn't if you try upscaling after the image is saved. But that is not what happens in a phone. Smartphone image processors perform upscaling, image stacking, demosaicing etc. (and some AI nonsense) before saving the image.

There is a lot of research that's openly available, if you want to know how this kind of stuff works:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.03277.pdf

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.03558.pdf

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.02538.pdf

https://people.duke.edu/~sf59/TIP_Demosaicing_Final.pdf
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] Dayuser:
I meant in gcam settings upscale option. I have tried it on both GCam 8.4.300 and 8.4.400

All get is bigger image and file size.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
That's what I tried to explain the whole time but seems like AGC has some issues with non upscaled pics.

When you test both with any other mod there is no improvement at all. But in bigkaka mod there is a difference. It doesn't make any sense.

When I take a picture with LMC or Shamim or whatever it looks like AGC + upscaling enabled. AGC + upscaling disabled looks trash. I think there is something wrong with it.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
I don't agree because I think the Vivo stock camera is awesome too and the lens/sensor selection of the Vivo makes much more sense. :)
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] mbfamily:
No it doesn't, you can compare them with stock camera and the result is exactly the same. Upscaling works. Read the scientific papers I linked to if you want to know why.
[Vivo X90 Pro Plus] :
Even bigkaka said it's weird and he is the dev of this mod.