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[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
is it the same if you increase call volume? I suspect automute on amplifier is triggered due to low signal level
[Android Head-Units] :
I don't know but I'll check it
[Android Head-Units] balkanera:
Did anybody know to solve the problem that the volume is very loud when I start car again … before it was normal loud after restart extrem loud music
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
I'm interested in this. Please answer how to do if you solve.
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
what volume levels are set in setting menu? I set all of them in 2,
[Android Head-Units] npolite:
Hi All,

I have the S5 version K706 in our 2012 Toyota Camry. I am having issues with the steering wheel controls not working. I reviewed the canbus device that came with the radio and it says Simple Soft. I've selected in the factory settings Simple --> Toyota --> Camry --> 2012-2013, have it connected via my iphone hotspot. After I select the option it says closing application in 3 seconds and then brings me back into the settings. I still can't seem to get the steering wheel controls to work with the app. I even tried to reboot the device with the reset button but no success. Is there anything else I can try or does it look like I have a defective device? Anything else to try?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] Barykelo:
I noticed that too. I wrote to the seller to fix it.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
If you have selected the correct canbus\car model, the steps you took to enable it are ok, but if it still doesn't work, maybe the canbus hardware that came with the radio is faulty.

Try contacting the seller for its replacement.

Note: did you ALSO connect the white connector (with 2 white wires) to the appropriate connector in the radio?

The connector in the radio is the first one, with 12 pin male,marked A.

This is crucial.
[Android Head-Units] balkanera:
Simple didnt work for me too. Choose other and find your car there that helped me and works fine now
[Android Head-Units] :
Please let me know if you manage to solve this problem.
[Android Head-Units] itiswitis:
I assuming it's plug and play unit with the second canbus cable plugged in? Otherwise, might be something with your wiring. Sounds like you have the correct canbus selected (simple), but you can double check here:

Car information system-CANBUS Settings

For me, the internet connection was key in getting the SWC to work. I also had an issue with the connector on the canbus, even though it "clicked", it wasn't fully seated.
[Android Head-Units] npolite:
Thank you so much! I must have missed that wire and that resolved the issue.
[Android Head-Units] npolite:
Thanks for the help. I missed the one wire from the canbus to the radio.
[Android Head-Units] wujek_p:
After a few days of use, I find that this device is of poor quality:

- the fan makes noise

- LTE connects and disconnects every 30 seconds

- every few minutes the radio resets

- the microphone is of poor quality

- the external microphone does not disable the internal one

- if someone has their own amplifier, the connection is mismatched (noise and too loud)

I'm waiting for what's next...

:(

I've had several Android radios from another manufacturer in my cars and haven't had any problems. There's a tragedy here...
[Android Head-Units] :
Are you writing about the device or about the latest software now?
[Android Head-Units] wujek_p:
about the device at all
[Android Head-Units] :
I have a hizpo s8. I had the same in the beginning. But I installed the soft with the date 20230109 and then 20230414 and it's really better. Maybe try.
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
Low price, low quality. In my case, the maximum original unit, which i can install in my car is MIB STD2 PQ,. But it cost 3-times more as S8 Unit, and have a limits like small 6" screen, no android app, android auto only wired (no wireless), and more...

I think you have just a bad luck to got a unit with issues. Don't you can use a warranty?
[Android Head-Units] wujek_p:
I don't know. Bought 3 months ago on Alliexpress - OSSURET Car Multimedia Store.
[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
Weird. I think maybe this is not a functionality that is supported. IE Car reports when ambient light level is low enough to warrant a automatic dark mode enabling.

SIMPLE is shorthand for Simplesoft, a manufacturer of canbus decoder boxes.

Dont just pick one, open the dash and check which one it should be.
[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
1. So disconnect the fan then? Its not really needed unless you live somewhere like texas.

2. Sounds like a software bug, what firmware are you on?

3. Its a $1 mic, what do you expect?

4. This seems to be limited to some users, my S5 used the external mic immediately

5. This is the way it has always been with changing car stereos, if you dont connect the low level outputs to the amplifier if you car has one, you get what you get. In my exact case, i cannot connect the amp to the low level rca outputs, since this unit has ground referenced signaling and my amp wants differential signals. It would be nice if we could lower the TDA7851 amp gain until its basically low level outputs, but the world doesnt work that way.

So update your firmware, and see if it fixes the problems you cant do anything about.
[Android Head-Units] Barykelo:
problem with notification tone when calling fixed by firmware 0508!
[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
Six inches is rookie numbers. I shoehorned the 10,1" into a double din slot, had to get creative with glue and a hot air gun. The frame kinda warped, but i got it there in the end.

Now i just gotta take some time to resurface everything and im set.

Anyway, comparing a MIB to a S-class unit isnt fair, theyre completely different hardware and software. If you have a double din slot, get an s5 unit in universal configuration instead, its basically an ipad with amplifier circuits anyway, so it can be mounted ... Creatively. https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ezqj6U1

Edit: wait a minute, werent you the first one to get the new pcb redesign? The black one?
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
I gues, i was the first here with black pcb.

don't get me wrong, I think S8 is worth for the money. there can be more to do with software, but good thing is, Jitu stil working on this project.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
S8 8GB/128GB Firmware 0414 and MCU 0207

Anyone using Toppal AI, pressing the original physical button on the steering wheel, set by default to run Voice Assistant (via canbus radio interface) gets Toppal awakening?

As it happens correctly if I for example click on the floating robot icon on the monitor or with the voice command "Hey top".

Instead, if I press the physical button on the steering wheel, I get the opening of the Toppal AI setup screen and not its awakening.

In "General Settings - Voice - Voice app" I assigned "Toppal Voice".

I use Toppal voice Standard version, correctly activated, everything works except the awakening via physical button on the steering wheel as I described.
[Android Head-Units] term117:
My wiring harness only has RCA output for left, right, and sub. How do I get output for rear left and rear right RCA? Perhaps the labels on my harness are incorrect?

Also is this unit compatible with 360 backup cameras?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
The MTC devices are the only ones that handle correctly the RDS Id of the radio stations so the AF work better then any other models.

I still don't receive any RDS text on my unit. My radio chip is TSC4745.

What is the radio chip of your unit?

@marioti which radio chip has your unit?
[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
IIRC Socket B

Pin B2 is ground reference for RCA, pin B4 is Front Left+, B6 is Front Right+.

There is no pinout for RR and RL. Considering the price of the unit, this does not suprise me. Add a tap to both FrFl and connect that to your amplifiers rear channels, else just use the onboard amplifier for rear speakers.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Please show picture of where you see this backlight display setup?

I don't see it with my S8 with: factory osk-8888

Also my opinion S8 Hizpo during the day is not very bright (and I wanted to increase it) but even if brightness is set to 100% by:

Home---bring up try bar---Brightness settings

in any case, it remains dim during the day, at night instead ok, with the car lights on I set it to lower the brightness, and it works.
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
Sys. info. says: TDA7708
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Also this user same thought...

Is it possible that no one detect this low brightness during the day?
[Android Head-Units] Jeka1400:
On my universal S7 with a 10' swivel screen, daytime brightness is at a good level. But at night, on the contrary, it is very bright and I had to reduce it with a third-party application, reducing the brightness with the standard adjustment was not enough.
[Android Head-Units] term117:
From the settings menu it shows the 8 pin C connector providing RCA_RL_OUT & RCA_RR_OUT. This unit has also been advertised as having 4.1 or 5.1 RCA output from different vendors. Has anyone tried this? Where can I get this connector?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Perhaps there is a "hidden" setup in the HU S8 or in any case all Sx models (that nobody perhaps knows?) to set the maximum default brightness of the Display...but I don't see how it is possible to do it, it exists only from the Home screen, lowering the top try bar adjusts Brightness range 0 to 100% but even at 100% it is low in daytime.
[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
Looks like you will have to pin it yourself, its on the little white canbus cable connector.
[Android Head-Units] Jeka1400:
You can look at other manufacturers of radio tape recorders, such as Teyes. The main thing is that the description on your photo is up-to-date, and this needs to be checked with Hizpo.
[Android Head-Units] chadoe:
Hi guys, I received my S5 last week. Most things work and the device is nice and fast.

Unfortunately canbus doesn't work, the seller concluded the canbus box is defective (after pictures/videos and tests) and will send me a new one so I hope it will fix that problem.

The other problem I'm having is the microphone volume level is much too low. I got google assistent to listen to me (once) by leaning very close to the device and shouting at it. I have read about the mic mod that should improve the internal mic but even the external microphone that was provided I have to hold close to my mouth for it to pick up my voice at all. Is there any way to increase the mic volume? I have seen videos of other hu's that have settings in the developer options for the microphone volume level but I can't find them on this device.

I upgraded MCU from 0204 to 0207 and the system version from 0204 to 0508.
[Android Head-Units] npolite:
For the canbus I made the mistake of not hooking it up to the radio. Did you plug the box into the radio?
[Android Head-Units] chadoe:
Yes it is plugged in the radio. All connections were checked.
[Android Head-Units] x0101222:
Same as yours; TSC4745 and no RDS text also.

Maybe the TDA7708 can receive it and that's make the difference in price

I can make some tests in a TDA unit next Tuesday if you need some cross checking.

@marioti @KoTiX2
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
That is what I was thinking too.

My unit receive only a bunch of 0bytes from MCU as rdstext data but it could be just a problem of the MCU code and not a chip limitation.

Honestly i don't see the purpose of making a chip that can receive ps text and not RTI text...

If you can do a cross checking it would be great thx. :)
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
sign me on a beta tests :)
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
datasheets of two type of Tuner chip:

https://eu.mouser.com/datasheet/2/389/tda7708-1358598.pdf

https://eu.mouser.com/datasheet/2/472/Si4740_41_42_43_44_45-2507623.pdf

TDA7708 is better...
[Android Head-Units] balkanera:
For what is the extra long green cable coming from Canbus …
[Android Head-Units] Elrathias:
post image, only extra cable i know about is amp power on, black/blue->blue.
[Android Head-Units] Astur_Torque:
"Destello" (flash) XDDD

such ****ty translation to spanish
[Android Head-Units] Astur_Torque:
I want to change mi old SoFia (1 GHz monocore, it can run with its life hehehe) to this s8, (just because I have a customised face to my Corsa..) Is is working well so far?
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
I don't have those green wires.

For the canbus there is a special hardware box, and in addition a connector with 2 white wires must be connected to the radio. Maybe those green wires are ONLY for your car ... are you sure they are for the canbus function?
[Android Head-Units] balkanera:
Canbus to Radio is extra same like you and others… so I dont know for what stering wheel and open door info shows radio over canbus connection
[Android Head-Units] npolite:
Hi Everyone,

Now that I got the steering wheel controls setup (Camry 2012 LE) my last thing to install is the backup camera. There is a wire provided with two blue wires and a RCA video. I assume I connect to that? The reason I ask is because there is a CVBS-IN and some videos say to use that. Also I am not sure which wire I need to activate the camera. There is a purple wire but it doesn't have any English writing on it.

I assume I still need to tap into the positive and negative wires for the reverse light in the trunk of the car? Also any good recommendations on Amazon?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] xdsbx:
Better canbus box for Toyota is FT-RZ-02.

Im using it on my Prius.
[Android Head-Units] x0101222:
Maybe you can send me a logger or a debugger that I can use in the units for have some rds log to check and compare with our tsc units.

It would be great if you could update the micro code and access to the stream of radio text.

regards
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
For my car, with canbus decoder connected and set correctly in the radio, I don't need to connect anything else, so I manage all buttons on the steering wheel, open door info and everything provided and implemented in the radio to communicate via canbus with my car ( BMW).

Honestly, however, I am disappointed that I cannot manage AC dual zone climatic control in any way.

This is foreseen in the radio and UI interface, but evidently in the firmware or hardware canbus they have not implemented.

Serious shortcoming...but...
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
If it's like for my car, and in yours it works via canbus:

Power the rear cam via the +12v positive input taken from the reverse lamp, and connect the video signal from the rear cam to the SPECIFIC yellow RCA connector of the radio (the one that also has the 2 short blue wires, which are the antennas for BT and Wifi).

If you have canbus, automatically when you engage reverse gear, the radio switches to the video signal coming from the rear cam and you see on the monitor what is seen behind.

NOTE:

the radio supports both low resolution and high resolution rear cam (AHD) I recommend you to buy AHD rear cam.

You have to set the right AHD resolution in the radio settings afterwards.
[Android Head-Units] balkanera:
Yes me too on Mercedes w164 but same in 1000 euro Radio with ac dual… Interface there but no controll
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Probably with BMW and Mercedes the radio developers inherent canbus firmware are not yet able to manage the data flow for AC climatic control...:sleep:
[Android Head-Units] itiswitis:
I followed the instructions on autofather.com. Camera should plug into the cable with the two blue wires, but if you get no signal from one cable, try the other cable, it won't damage it. I don't recall needing to tap the reversing wire, since I have the canbus. I did tapped into the backup lights in the trunk to power the camera.

I used a cheap AHD 720 camera from Amazon, kind of regretting the 720, maybe should have gone with a 1080. All those cheapish AHD backup cameras on Amazon come from the same 3 or so manufacturers in china.
[Android Head-Units] itiswitis:
My brightness seems fine to me. It is at 80% day and 10% night (headlight).

I have not changed anything in backlight settings, but pic attached:
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
You have to do as I wrote, the yellow RCA connector is specially created for video input through the rear camera.

If everything actually works with canbus, it must work without doing anything else, you just have to power the rear cam with positive from the reverse lamp.

The other 2 short blue wires in the same connector are NOT for connecting anything, but are the radio's BT and Wi-Fi antennas.

Obviously you have to select the AHD type of your rear cam in the radio settings.

Edit: I currently have 1080 AHD cam fish eyes lens.

I also tried AHD 720 cam fish eyes lens.

Entarmbe no low cost version..but I assure you that with 9" montior the difference is not seen, ok also AHD 720.
[Android Head-Units] itiswitis:
Not sure what to expect from RDS, but I think it's working on my head unit. Is this it? (pics) I just didn't think much about it since it was the same on my factory head unit.

I have TDA7708
[Android Head-Units] Gyovany96:
I've installed my 1080p AHD camera last week and I used the 3rd pin (pink or brown cable) from canbus for Power. No need to wire to backup light if you have Canbus, also no need to connect the ground cable because it will use the RCA connector as ground (at least for my type of AHD camera and VW canbus).
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
I use 100% day, night 75%. but it remains equally low during the day. I bought S8 by Hizpo, you?

I have identical default settings also for screen, but those are NOT used to adjust the backlight, and better to leave as default (my picture equal to yours).

There is no other possibility than to further increase the brightness of the backlight of the dispaly...unless someone knows other methods other than Home--trybar lowered-adjust Brightness.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
For BMW,also with canbus,it is necessary to use positive from reverse lamp, GND wherever it is sheet metal, but since the lamp is powered by PWM voltage, it is necessary to interface a relay, which switches a direct positive +12v VBatt, which feeds the rear camera with its contact with a "clean" +12v positive.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
With S8 and TDA7708 RDS infos works.
[Android Head-Units] itiswitis:
I have S6 by Hizpo. It also has what looks like a screen protector, not sure if that makes any difference, probably not since your night is at 75%.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
I removed the protective film some time ago... the problem maybe lies in the firmware (currently I use 0414, but it was identical even with stock firmware).

Probably acting from Settings-factory-8888-screen options, the VCOM slider increases or decreases the voltage applied to the pixels of the TFT matrix of the display and consequently increases or decreases the stock backlight factor (the BN grid that can be seen in the background it serves to "center" the best view of the images, using the VCOM slider).

But it could damage the display if you increase the brightness with VCOM beyond the threshold foreseen by the manufacturer ... and increasing the brightness too much with VCOM also decreases the sharpness of the images.
[Android Head-Units] amesino:
Hello, I wanted to ask if there is any possibility to update firmware without losing data and applications???
[Android Head-Units] Gyovany96:
Yes, just untick "Delete data.." (or whatever it's say) before selecting update.zip
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Before upgrading, DISABLE "clear user data" option, but not sure if works all 100% in the end....
[Android Head-Units] Gyovany96:
It works, that's how I've updated from 1404 to 0508!
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Theoretically yes, it works, but the last time I updated to 1404, without clear user data active, Toppal AI no longer worked correctly, and I had to redo the update, this time also with clear user data active, and after restore all my previous apps, accounts etc. :cautious:

edit.

All ok with 0508?
[Android Head-Units] Gyovany96:
Yes, so far so good 👍
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
I'm undecided whether to update or wait for the next one after 0508...log fix not yet found for this release, someone writes beep-beep-beep on hold with call forwarding phone fixed, but I haven't found other things.
[Android Head-Units] Gyovany96:
Changelog would be nice indeed, but so far I haven't noticed any bad changes, everything it's working perfect (I don't make calls so can't tell about the "beep"), so green light to update tho!
[Android Head-Units] npolite:
Thanks. I might just try that before tapping into the rear. If it works great if not I know what to do.

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] andysabre:
Hi. I paired my obdii without any problems with my S5 With 4.11 firmware. I remember that someone has some problems. If you would like additional information tell me (type of obdii, ecc.)

Bye
[Android Head-Units] Barykelo:
I don't know exactly what it is, but with my S5 I had to move the wire to another pin on the connector where the cinch is connected for the input of the video signal from the rear camera. I used the one free blue wire on this connector and moved it to the pin where 12V appeared after engaging reverse. Unfortunately I don't have a photo so I can't show which pin it was right now.
[Android Head-Units] Gyovany96:
I have an S5 too from Ossuret. I think the only difference is the canbus wiring for each Car.
[Android Head-Units] Barykelo:
My previous Junsun car radio had this pin wired, the Hizpo didn't.
[Android Head-Units] :
Sound "beep" for calling is fixed on 0508.
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
As soon as I have a working free version I'll share it here.

It's a bit too early right now, many things aren't working and need to be fixed.

Regarding MCU code, i can't reverse engineer it and modify it.

It's just out of my knowledge.
[Android Head-Units] wujek_p:
Today I installed the latest MCU and the latest firmware (8th of may: 4.19). Still the same. Radio reboots every few minutes and 4G turns on and disconnects every 30 seconds. I'm fed up with this internal modem, I ordered a USB wi-fi modem router.
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
apparently your Unit is broken. I don't see other solution as to use a warranty. Write to Ossuret. Say them what is going on. They'll tell you to return the unit, as they said to me (I think 15euro for shipping from Poland to China is not so bad anyway)
[Android Head-Units] marioti:
i was aslo able to do this with cheap Vgate 2, but only as a first thing after a cold start. When i pair my phone, can't connect with obd anymore. And it stays like this even when i unpair my phone.

So can you do some tests in similiar condidions?
[Android Head-Units] TvBIFI:
its possible that you got another Display some have IPS others QLED
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Run Torque app first?

The "trick" with a cold boot is to open the communication, and it appears that the run Torque app can do this.

In any case, paired ONLY the FIRST time Phone and BT OBD, TOGETHER, I will never repeat this again, and when I want to use car diagnostic apps, first run Torque (which I don't use but serves as a "trigger") then close, and then i can use my apps...this with every cold start of the radio.

Edit:

also need to set the OBD BT interface you use inside Torque app.

Also NOT all interfaces are ok, but Vgate works though.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
I have S8 8GB\128GB, top radio by Hizpo, and this have QLED display 1280 * 720 px.
[Android Head-Units] andysabre:
Hi. The same. Or phone or obd.
[Android Head-Units] MauriBixio:
Firmware and MCU version?

OBD BT interface,name?

Phone paired, Android or Apple?
[Android Head-Units] TvBIFI:
Ok S8 is also available with IPS or QLED

If you have 1280x720px its QLED. It should have better brightness but smaller viewing angle
[Android Head-Units] itiswitis:
This is how the OBD works for me also.

I have both BT OBD and Phone paired to the head unit, but I have to ensure OBD and Torque communicate first (with phone BT off). Once OBD and Torque communicates, then I can turn on phone BT and both OBD and Phone will continue to work, until next engine restart (or cold boot).