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[Magisk] pndwal:
I'll just say this (and I refrained before but you keep being fixated on a mere disclosure of user configuration):

Maybe the member in question shouldn't have mentioned he had apps sandboxed w/ island to inhibit wakeup/battery consumption but he did...

He also said he had workspace apps sandboxed that HMA couldn't find and conversely speculated on whether he may need a 'cloned' HMA instance to stop those same apps detecting main userspace apps/applist... He also said 'forget the battery-saving use of parallel space' since it's hardly the point...

As I said, it seems to me that other users may sooner or later try similar HMA hiding for 'parallel space' apps for work use or for other reasons only they may think up...

Of course this would also be edge-case use of HMA and it seems it may not even be possible, but honestly, is such use really Off Topic for the only HMA Guide / discussion thread on XDA?(!)

Personal I find considering edge-case use of various modding tools stimulating, and it foster's better understanding of processes/functions involved... even when what's attempted turns out to be impossible!... Can't see the need to come down hard on that / make everyone conform to our 'blind devotion to sane' usage... A little crazy can/should be accepted (even good) as you infer...

Obligatory on-topic cats:

... Hope they tickle your... boat. 😆 PW
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Spoiler content hidden.

Of course you have the right to allow or disallow whatever you want in this thread that you created.

In order for me to better understand your preferences, stipulations, and rules, can I assume that if being willing to include a long discussion about topics that are totally and obviously pertinent to applist hiding (such as feline companion animals, girlfriends, the Hitchhiker's Guide, 70's music, and NSW rental laws) along with obviously OT topics (such as questions about managing battery and managing background processes w/r/t ad receivers and trackers), would postings related to those obviously OT topics then be welcome here?

In order to insulate this current post against being labeled as OT, I want to let you all know that I also live alone (w/r/t human companionship), and I share my apartment with two cats. They are females, and I sometimes tell people that I live with two girlfriends in an attempt to get a laugh when I subsequently reveal that they are actually felines.

Thankfully, the rental laws here in New York seem to be more liberal than those in NSW, and so I have no landlord-related issues concerning my feline companions. It's important to the integrity of these totally on-topic words that I'm now writing here about applist hiding that I correct an error in what I originally wrote in the previous sentence: it turns out that New York landlords do indeed have the right to stipulate a no-pets policy. Thankfully, my own landlord has no objection to my feline roommates.

But just in case all this massively on-topic info isn't enough to give me a pass with the anti-OT authorities, I hereby once again present the following, which, by its very nature, is always on-topic with regard to all questions and all discussions in all forums, everywhere:

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[Magisk] letmedanz:
Hello! Thanks for the guide and all the useful information.

Been away from rooting/flashing for a while and so much has changed and is overwhelming.

Went through all installations until HMA Beta, which throws up an error while installing in Magisk.

As soon as installation starts, there is an 'UNZIP error', just as soon as it starts copying zip to temp directory.

Have tried downloading 4-5 times assuming it to be a bad download, however same error.
[Magisk] zgfg:
What ZIP file, and who said to install the HMA zip file in Magisk?

What is exactly the name of your zip file and where from did you download (,url) that zip?

HMA is not Magisk module but a module for LSPosed.

As that, you have to have Zygisk-LSPosed (,or the Riru version of LSposed if you eg use Magisk Delta with Riru) Magisk module installed and for HMA you must download and install the APK file HMA-V3.0.5-Beta.apk (the latest beta is v3 0.5)

Please read instructions in the OP post #1
[Magisk] letmedanz:
Duh moment. Thanks. Fixed
[Magisk] 73sydney:
If you ever feel theres something not explained well enough, and we are dealing with users from many countries and language backgrounds, you can always let me know

I only punish lazy millennials/gen z'ers, and people looking to be spoonfed, not people who are genuinely struggling with the steps as laid out by me, even as i try and make them as clear as possible, theres always room for possible improvement

Im always open to fixing errors and making note of where ive found ways to improve

Of course Samsung wouldnt know anything about that because today they posted this very extensive changelog for one of their wearables apps:
[Magisk] letmedanz:
Not really. Your guide is very thorough and idiot proof.

Well, exclude me. Lol.

It was 2 am, I was doing a couple of things, and missed the obvious.
[Magisk] ipdev:
Ideas about how to make a Watch 4 battery last more than 24 -> 30 hours? 😜

Cheers. :cowboy:

Spoiler content hidden.
[Magisk] mrjuniork:
This thread is getting more and more hilarious by the day 😉

I'm gonna watch closely in order to witness what topic isn't going to be covered here 😅

Cheers
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Coming soon:

* homemade protein bar recipes

* 70's string art how to

* debate: will Furbees make a comeback?
[Magisk] pndwal:
Suggest new thread title:

"A brief Hide my AppList guide to be found hidden amongst sundry items on our extensive watchlist (things we'd never want to hide) incl. watches to watch, cats to countenance, music for muses, regs for renters, Streamdecks, Python, girlfriends, a not-so-brief guide to the galaxy... for the intrepid hitchhiker that is, and more!..."

In the event that the suggested thread title above is not adopted for any reason, may I suggest this announcement for the purpose of clarity:

"We'd just like to point out that the applist of concern here comprises whatever is deemed applicable, and what may be applicable in your mind will likely be rejected, not tolerated or at the very least hidden, such being the prerogative of the purveyor of said applist and hider of your applist and my applist...

Here endeth a brief guide to hiding your applist... just don't Hide My Applist..." 😝 PW
[Magisk] galaxys:
Get the Samsung Galaxy Watch 5!😉

Cheers
[Magisk] HippoMan:
But by all means DO NOT even THINK of discussing ...

managing battery or managing background processes w/r/t ad receivers and trackers
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Thats strike 1

:)
[Magisk] 73sydney:
If you have a Watch 4 its hardly worth the upgrade, during black friday, when the Watch 5 Pro were going for AUD$549, people trying to sell their used Watch 5 Pro's for as low as AUD$350 were having no luck getting me or any other Watch 4 people to buy them....when they get to around $200 i might get one...i get 2 days out of my Watch 4 44mm, im not lazy enough to spend $350 $400 just to avoid the arduous task of putting the Watch 4 on a charger every 2 days....

I just put mine on to charge now, and now have to have a lie down and rest from the sheer effort to take it off my wrist and put it on the charger....
[Magisk] huskydg:
AppDataIsolation Legacy Support: enabling /data/data isolation for old Android version (Android 10 and lower). Require Magisk Process Monitor tool v1.1+ 🍻🎊

GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/data_isolation_support: Enable /data/data isolation for old Android version (Android 10 and lower). Require Magisk Process Monitor 1.1+

Enable /data/data isolation for old Android version (Android 10 and lower). Require Magisk Process Monitor 1.1+ - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/data_isolation_support

github.com

Android 10 and lower without /data/data isolation, app can still detect other apps through stat "/data/data/com.package.name" even using Hide My AppList.

After using AppDataIsolation Legacy Support along with Hide My AppList
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Nice work, you just keep managing to come up with surprising new toys!

If you like i can add this to the OP as an extra protection layer suggestion?, and if you are OK with it, i'd like to link your module from my A11+ AppDataIsolation module so that A11- peoples who find that know they now have a possible working method for themselves

Note: i dont currently use my AppDataIsolation module (now on A13, but stopped using under A12 too) as i tended to forget its enabled and forget to toggle it and reboot before i run my Migrate backups...you'd like to think id arrive at the reason why my backup had no app data in it sooner than i actually did and before i toggled AppDataIsolation off and rebooted and re-ran Migrate :)

Also since youre more of a boffin than i, do you see any evidence so far that the app data isolation touted for Android 13 isnt entirely effective?
[Magisk] galaxys:
😂 LOL, get your rest! I upgraded from 4 to 5 at launch and have not looked back!⌚

https://xdaforums.com/t/galaxy-watch-5-who-not-be-upgrading.4457219/post-87275595
[Magisk] Kris Chen:
Thank you, @73sydney !

I followed your instruction to do and I finally got it clean.
[Magisk] m0han:
Just an FYI: HMA v3.0.6 is out.
[Magisk] bombadier:
Excellent HMA has managed to hide root from the Halifax app, working well, thanks for an excellent and easy to follow write up (y)
[Magisk] 73sydney:
People have always commented positively on my guides and topics, like this one, so many people appreciated the brevity....

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-mag...s-of-gms-17-1-22-on-pie.3929950/post-79643248

* i still think that probably holds the record for longest post on site - it was actually longer, but i removed several years of changelog posts last year....it got a few comments about being "wordy"
[Magisk] 73sydney:
ive been forced, at gunpoint (which is no mean feat, considering he doesnt have opposable thumbs or even fingers to be honest), to post this image of me and my little friend out at coffee

#totallynormalbehaviour
[Magisk] reconan1:
What instructions do you mean? because as much as I search it is not clear to me, can you tell me the number of the specific post?

I do not get it...
[Magisk] reconan1:
ah, ok, sorry, you mean the first post...I think I do everything but I can't get it all in V...I'm doing something wrong.
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Purely coincidentally (I assure you!) and totally on-topic, I also now have been forced to post an image of my own friend (who is not so little), as well as an image of his patron saint.
[Magisk] Kris Chen:
Nothing special just follow his step one-by-one and you will get the same result as mine !
[Magisk] Yousef Algadri:
Great to know that followed the guide and everything works just fine 😄
[Magisk] immortalwon:
The main problem I noticed with this is when you hide lsposed modules, magisk does not detect them and therefore cannot give super user access to them. Is there a way to fix this? does the developer read this thread?
[Magisk] zgfg:
From whom you're hiding LSPosed and its modules (they are all apks)?

You should not hide from Magisk app but from 'banking' apps and checkers like Ruru, SCheck and so.

Magisk app is. not a 'banking' app neither the checker like Ruru hence there is no use of 'hiding' from him.

You should hide only from those apps that tend to detect and report (again, from banking apps, from Ruru, SCheck, TB-Check, Oprek)

Therefore, they shall not be hidden from Magisk and hence LSPosed and its modules will work (as they do for the others here, with the proper HMA configuration)
[Magisk] immortalwon:
Thank you, your explanation was good and I re-read the guide in this thread. When I originally setup the hide my applist module, the guide I read was not clear.
[Magisk] m0han:
HMA v3.1.0 Beta is available.
[Magisk] Fishawy:
@73sydney Thanks for the detailed guide. I followed it, and all apps are working properly, except for Medicare. Login just fails despite being hidden (used to work fine before HMA).

Thought I should ask, since you're a fellow Aussie, if you're having issues with this app in Particular. All other government apps work fine (ATO, MyGovID, MyGov Code Generator, Service NSW, and Service VIC).

Anything extra to do?

Edit: Started from scratch and it works as intended now. Not sure what went wrong the first time. Sorry about that!
[Magisk] zgfg:
I'm not down under but wondering when you say that your Medicare used to work fine before HMA

In your template, did you checkmark for hiding both the Magisk app and the Hide My Applist app (and all other LSPosed modules you have installed)?
[Magisk] Fishawy:
Magisk, HMA, all other LSPosed modules, and all banking/government apps.

Edit: Fixed as stated above.
[Magisk] 73sydney:
To answer your question, completely and randomly after youve alreayd fixed it, because it is totally on brand with this thread, no, theres nothing extra to do for Medicare.

All those apps work, the only ones that i cannot get working under even under HMA are:

Opal (specifically only the top up function)
[Magisk] Fishawy:
It's working fine here. Can't test it on an Opal terminal though, as last time I was in NSW was back in February.

I don't really have recommendations, but hope you get yours sorted.
[Magisk] 73sydney:
I do manual top ups, because i like to be difficult :) (and yes i can hear you @pndwal ...sighing and saying to yourelf "totally on brand")

If i try and manually top up i get a brief flash of white screen them im back at the homescreen again...

Also if i do try and add a payment method for auto it does the same trick....

I must give it a crack under Magisk Delta in the coming days
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Just updated and tried vold data isolation. Be aware that for me at least it breaks everyone's favourite detection app, Momo....

Just making a note...
[Magisk] ipdev:
Now I am going to have to try the HMA beta update.

Anything that gives Momo pain. 😛

Cheers. :cowboy:

Edit:

Is this what you get with Momo?

Edit 2:

Play Integrity does not return a result.
[Magisk] Kris Chen:
Well, it's true that something wrong to break the root hide ... momo hide is unfunctional...

I'm using magisk delta, so I enable magisk hide and it's working well.
[Magisk] elbart88:
someones can tell me why lsposed is not showing to my hma list? it's activated but at every reboot it asks to add the icon everytime. As a result applist detector finds both magisk and xposed framework, any help is appreciated
[Magisk] zgfg:
Did you enable to Show System apps?

Actually, you should uninstall LSPosed app and leave only its shortcut icon - then, LSPosed app should not show in HMA (even if you enable to Show Systems apps), but then also Applist Detector should not detect it

Screenshots attached:

1. my Zygisk LSPosed module version

2. Applist Detector detecting my four LSPosed modules and Magisk (Delta) app but not detecting LSPosed manager/app

Then:

3. Template in my HMA showing which apps I will hide: four LSPosed modules and Magisk Delta app (I cannot checkmark LSPosed app since it's uninstalled, I have only its shortcut)

4. Retest with Applist Detector, now all fine, not detecting LSPosed neither its modules

What is your LSposed version?

Attach your screenshots:

- which apps do you checkmark in your HMA blacklist template

- what exactly was detected by your Applist Detector
[Magisk] elbart88:
- my lsposed version is latest as yours. Applist detects "de.robv.android.xposed.installer". Hma app and "magisk app" are found too (magisk "topjohnwu" in not detected though, only a different app name)

- I dont' understand what I must check in the blacklist template, whether the banking app to work or the apps I want to be hidden? (magisk, hma., etc..)
[Magisk] zgfg:
Everything is clearly described how to configure HMA, please carefully read the guide in the OP post #1

It's not only to make the template but also to apply it to the needed apps (banking apps or in this case to the Applist Detector) - but again, everything is described in the guide, I cannot describe you better
[Magisk] elbart88:
Sorry for one more question, if I add "applist detector" to the template, is it just to get pass the test? It's no use for the banking app, because I already hidden magisk in Hma, is this right? (but if I dont, applist is detecting both magisk and Hma, why?
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Apps (magisk/HMA/lsposed modules) you want to hide from banking apps and app detectors go in the root template

Apps (including app detectors) you want to hide from the apps in the root template, are selected under the App Manage section/screen

Applist detector as it says in the instructions goes under the App Manage section

Do NOT put apps on both

Do NOT put app detectors in the root template

The instructions are pretty clear, i included pics to try and get around any language confusion...
[Magisk] m0han:
HMA v3.1.1 is out
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Thanks for the heads up!

I was hoping you were posting some random nonsense, i saw you got some content wiped for being OT and amusing elsewhere - no danger of that here.

But i'll take a HMA update too :)
[Magisk] HippoMan:
It's good of you to accept a massively OT message about HMA here in this Hide My Applist thread. :)
[Magisk] m0han:
Yeah. https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-universal-safetynet-fix-2-3-1.4217823/post-87965053

A day without laughter is a day wasted. - Charlie Chaplin
[Magisk] mrjuniork:
We'll see about that...😉
[Magisk] zgfg:
Ain't good for me

I don't use HMA only for hiding Magisk and LSPosed apps from checkers and banking apps but also to detach couple of apps from PlayStore

Alas, now with HMA v3.1.1:

1) I cannot even open PlayStore (splash screen stays forever)

2) Cannot test Play Integrity (Check rotates forever, both in PI API Checker and TB-Checker) - interestingly, YASNAC successfully attest but ofc SafateyNet

That happens IF I ENABLE Hide for Google Play Store in App manage, and EVEN (?!) if I use 0 templates for PlayStore

However, if I disable hiding for PlayStore then PlayStore opens immediately and PI API Checker successfully tests

Also, if I revert HMA to the previous version, then with hiding enabled for PlayStore and the corresponding template enabled (for real detaching) everything is again ok

Hence a problem now specifically with HMA v3.1.1

https://github.com/Dr-TSNG/Hide-My-Applist/issues/247#issuecomment-1374914971
[Magisk] 73sydney:
So back before COVID, on another (non tech) forum where i was well known for getting up to stuff, i decided i wanted to get my first tattoo ever, and so put up a thread for suggestions, and then covid happened.

So this week im finally going to get the ball rolling....

Top of the suggestion pile, because those folk know me, and with most votes was this, in all black, probably on inside of forearm, because i am a freak and want people very much to see it

And probably elsewhere on the same arm (or even the other one), a Ralph Steadman print from my fave book Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas

There are more planned, including one featuring the bear with a pistol, but thats for down the road a bit....
[Magisk] HippoMan:
The first one is quite appropriate.

I need to ask my Samoan attorney for his opinion about the second one.
[Magisk] m0han:
Wired Wrong

Weird Right

KISS (Assuming you want people to read it)

YouTube video, anyone?
[Magisk] martyfender:
I had a different experience with this with Topjohnwu latest debug build in that it worked for me. but then again I am on completely different hardware and Android version: Onn 8 1st gen, Android 9 tablet. I don't recall what your device specs are? However, I have never hidden the playstore. Just out of curiosity, what are the benefits of hiding it?

Furthermore, I have recently been testing artifact builds. With todays build I did have issues in that momo now detects things it didn't on the official debug build, namely: Found executable file "su"

found Magisk

found Zygisk

It also found:

initrc is modified

Zygote is injected

But the above 2 were present in the official debug build.

I don't know if the above is caused by HMA or the artifact build, or the interaction of the two.

I do realize one must not take momo as always a good indication, because every thing is fine in: TBChecker, Integrity Checker, S Check, Oprek Detector, Yasnac and ApplistDetector. Finally, my device is certified in the playstore.

For clarification, based on the device in my signature, I have 2 Onn 8 1st gen tablets, one with Topjohnwu builds and one with the latest Magisk Delta debug builds. Finally, I did follow the excellent @73sydney 's HMA configuration guide.
[Magisk] zgfg:
I'm not hiding the Playstore but vice versa, hiding couple of applications from the Playstore

And it is not about hiding root

In the other jargon it's called detaching (apps from PlayStore)

Eg, if you use the root version of ReVanced (now, previously it was Vanced) for YouTube (certain hacked patches like allowing YT to play in background or even on the locked screen and to skip ads, etc) then you have to make sure that Playstore would not update your installed (and patched) YT app

Similarly for Android Auto - there is a very stringent policy which apps are allowed to be projected to the infotainment screen. Eg, even if you park the car and switch off engine, you cannot watch YT on the screen in the car, you cannot browse, read or write e-mails, etc.

Hence there are solutions to hack AA to overcome those limitations but they work only on the older versions of AA or at least, every time when AA updates, you have to spend days to search for new tricks to make the hacks to work again

Hence for those purposes I need to hide YT and AA from Playstore (aka detach them).

Then Playstore does not recognize that those apps are installed and does not bother by asking to update them, and you protect yourself of accidentally updating them

Hence it's not about the version of Magisk, not about hiding root but just about the other purpose of using HMA.

And it worked fine at least till 3.0.6 (maybe even 3.1.0 - I'm not sure did I already have 3.1.0 when I updated HMA to 3.1.1 and immediately observed the problem), but now, with HMA 3.1.1 when I open App manage, select Google Play store, Enable hide (even without applying a template with eg YT and AA to be hid from PlayStore), then Playstore can no more open and Play Integrity API checker starts halting

Therefore, this latest HMA 3.1.1 can no more be used for detaching apps from Playstore.

Still there are other modules and apps that can do detaching (hence I had to install them, configure them and to switch for detaching from HMA to them) but I liked to use one solution, HMA (besides, being more convenient for detaching than those alternatives), both to help for hiding root and for detaching

And I was not the only one reporting that latest HMA can no more be used for hiding apps from Playstore (aka detaching) because of then halting the Playstore app - there was already a similar issue reported to the GitHub

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Attached screenshots demonstrate:

- when successfully detached (hid from PlayStore), PlayStore thinks that AA is not installed and therefore that it does not need an update

- when detaching is turned off, PlayStore recognizes that an older version of AA is installed and hence it asks for the AA update
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Updated the OP to:

- point out its now OK to use the HMA offered via Lsposed manager as its now serving v3 builds....

- link to official kdrag0n safetynet, @Displax's Mods remain linked for now as there are some folk wherere those are more effective and for edge cases