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[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Hmm yeah gave that one a shot. Still no calls. May try new installation again.

I am now trying to switch my radio back, I've got some 1.60.30.xx one installed that I found, but every time i try to flash a new radio it flips out and freezes on the tri colored screen.. have to reflash rom! But that's a different story.

What are the chances anyone here is with Rogers or Fido in Canada?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
i don't know anything but i can test things like a mofo
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
i'm currently using pcarvalho's eXtreme ROM 3.19 WM6.5 OS 5.2.21820 WWE R0 (Beta) non 3D version. radio version is 1.59.46.12. i'm using 2 SanDisk Micro SD Card, 1GB and 4GB respectively, formatted to FAT32 bit.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I've flashed the pcarvalho 6.5 rom in desperation, but no difference.

I've managed to get the initrd.gz to extract the data image using the zimage-gpu then it crashed out onto a prompt with a data error.

If I replace the zimage with a new one, it sticks at various points, sometimes at boot up in haret when the bar goes to 100% or sometimes at the GSM Phone found and most times at the SD Card init stage... not having any luck at all so far.. and theres not much help to be had on the kaiser forums.. :(
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
@bally3 you haven't success to launch android on polaris or just having internet working on it ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
hi flo, I can just about launch android with the old zimage from april but not with the new zimage.. the old one crashes all the apps but I can make calls but no internet.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Mormy:
ok, I must thank you many of you for your patience. Now my result:

I have an Orbit2 with 3LIT3 VI ROM and Radio: 1.65.30.09 (I think I find it while trying WM 6.5).

From here: http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list

I took:

1) initrd.gz

2) dude13htcmusic.img

3) zImage-bootlock-test (because my previous try stopped with a block)

4) haret.exe

From ION package: data.gz

My default.txt:

#Polaris

set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

set MTYPE 1723

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "ppp.apn=tre.it ppp.username= ppp.password= mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcpolaris.panel_type=0 mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0"

boot

Finally I bootup :)

I could make and recive call and sms

My SD works because I saw my images

My data connection didn't works :( I'm Italian so my apn is simply tre.it without username or password, but I don't know if I must write "none" after the "=" or not.

That's all

I'm at your disposition to further try and to answer question

P.S.

I've got a 4Gb SD card with 1,7Gb free. I didn't format it before.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] excogitation:
Unfortunately the "not-a-programmer-forget-it-hard".

To get started you need to be able to compile the kernel (there's a guide in the wiki (may be outdated)).

Afterwards there are some issues to work on (programming skills required).

- 3G already used to work without an active connection in win (initrd?)

- power management seems to be worse than before (maybe CPU is fixed at 400MHz) (kernel)

- screen type could be detected automatically (don't even know if the parameters are right for our different panel-types) (kernel)

- gpu stuff needs to be copied (adapted?) (kernel)

- the screen already was more clear before (see console font) - if I'm not mistaken (kernel)

- GPS needs porting from Vogue (is it already working on Kaiser/Nike?) (kernel)

- wlan (kernel, initrd, ...)

- bluetooth (kernel, initrd, ...)

Btw who got the headset working? (the keys aren't working but audio is)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I suppose you've got to start somewhere.. I'll have a go at compiling a zimage and take it from there I think - thanks for the info exco :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Well some progress.

Downloaded..

"	initrd.gz	initrd, with prelim camera, fixed GSM data, reupload for boot wakeup error (identical to yesterday) Featured"

from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list and data works now, but still no calling out ability.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Any of you guys experienced with the adb package for troubleshooting stuff? I have been asked to get a log but I can't for the life of me figure out how to set it up.

I've tried following "ADB setup for dummies" and apparently I am not at the dummy level yet.. haha.

I've downloaded usb drivers and adb package.. just don't know what to do with the drivers.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Well.. I posted again the kaiser forum...

I dont kow who offended who.. but seems like nobody wants to help us anymore :o

So its either get behind the wheel or shelve the project for the time being... I've given up testing the builds as I cant for the life of me get them to run regardless of changing radios and roms.

I'll try and see if I can get a standard kernel compiled, but from the looks of things we're dead in the water without any dev help.

Sorry to sound disheartened folks.. but I think wishful thinking that one of the builds work for us is the closest we're going to get to getting a working build right now.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Had some luck today with the latest build, though its still not booting. Looks like its objecting to some of my music files and trying to truncate them. But when I tried a fresh card it still stuck at the usual places.

Going to format my 4Gb SDHC card - after moving all the info off it as I noticed some messaging of shared clusters which means I need to fix the card. :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
I have been using android full time now, even though i can't call out. (I don't call anyone anyways!)

I am using the "bundle" package on the google code site. After setting it up, i switched intrd file to one that was suppose to fix GSM data, and it has worked most of the time.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Anyone get this repeating message during boot? There have been a few posts about it but i don't understand what it is, or how to rid it. I have been getting a lot of it from most of the initrd files i've tried.

android_power : wakeup (0-)0)

Also, does anyone happen to remember that script that lets you boot android before windows boots up? I am having a horrible time with google and the search tool today..
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I finally managed to get the last build from the google code tree to work late last night (Persistant paid off for once!)

If this works for you, let me know:

(Running pcarvalho's 3d rom at the mo with the 1.59.46.. radio that comes with it)

1) Tried to format card, fluffed it up and would not get recognised in either Windows 7 or WinMo. Finally put it into my trusty Nokia phone and reformatted it (done this once before to bring back a dead card - works a treat!)

2) copied regular all files from the google code (no data.gz) into the root of the folder.

3) created an empty "apps" folder in the root.

4) created an empty "cache" folder in the root.

5) changed MTYPE to 1723 and added my apn, username and password to default.txt and changed htcvogue panel to htcpolaris.

Left all other settings.

Ran Haret

It created a data.img file in around 30 seconds..! and then booted..

Entered all my details, created apn etc. No Data.. No Calls.

rebooted.

Made a call to voicemail, finished call and turned on 3G in WinMo.

Ran Haret again.

Calls and Data now working.. happy days!

(I left out the pointless and countless other things I did to get to this stage but pretty much this is what I did to get it working as I re-did it again and it still works (though call works and not works sometimes).
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I'm going to leave this setup for now as its ok and useable and see how I do with consistency of connection, battery life etc and keep updating the system image and initrd as they are updated. Camera shows a pink screen but doesnt work, I havent checked gps but I assume that wont be working and its not that important at the moment anyway. As always, wifi is the biggie which i have to go back to winmo for but I will try and use this setup and do some testing.

I've noticed a few bugs already that were there in my last setup, the vibrate that wont stop until you press the power button, connection to modem but no internet connection sometimes etc.

Let me know if the process I described works for you, but please ensure you've completely formatted your card before reporting your successes or failures because I am no convinced that there are either files created by android or some apk that was stopping the new builds from loading.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] adderz91:
Not for you maybe hehe.

Its the only reason i havent switched to the iPhone, because it doesnt have dedicated GPS turn by turn applications. I believe Android has a few being developed so heres to hoping devs jump on board.

Its quite surprising actually, the Touch Cruise is an excellent device, looking at HTC's current lineup, and there is barely any difference to when the Polaris was released. Sure the cameras might of got an extra megapixel and the screens are (mostly) VGA res now but the Polaris is still a very powerful device and its a shame no one wants it. It just doesnt have the backing like the Kaiser or Wizard do. I had a Wizard and it was a major piece of junk yet it has so much more dev activity then the Polaris does.

Oh well...one day...we will have a fully working Android, but by then a new version of Android would of been released and then someone will have to port that, just like what happened with 0.8, 1.0 and 1.5 now.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Nice one bally. I am still stuck with not being able to call anyone.. but everything else is working. I am now currently researching things like battery life and if any settings will help it.. i have to charge at least once a day, usually twice, but that's not a big deal to me.

Google maps doesn't work for me unfortunately. GPS obviously is not working, but it won't even find my general location using the towers.. so might have somethign to do wtih the radio again (same issue with calling out).
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
GPS is important to me too, but I dont use it every day and dont mind switching back to winmo when I do, besides I doubt any sat nav is going to beat IGO for its speed and accuracy - I absolutely love it as sat nav software goes.

This being my 1000th post, all as a Polaris user, I think its fitting to reflect on why I chose the Polaris over the other devices initially and then again when I sold my Polaris I ended up buying one again for the exact same reason.

I bought a Polaris, because it looked pleasing, the specs were nice, it wasnt as expensive as a Kaiser, though it lacked a keyboard but was much thinner and lighter and therefore easier to lug around. I bought my wife a hermes, thinking the keyboard would be to her liking and its a great little phone, but compared to the Polaris its monster in bulk - hardly a day-to-day carry around phone for me.

A year on and my mind hasnt changed about my Polaris. Its been thrashed as far as development is considered, constant flashing, reflashing software installs, android-related reboots after reboots, and it hasnt failed me once - touch wood! ;)

Its a sturdily built device despite complaints of poor build quality, the only things I've found annoying is the rubber seal falling off the wheel within weeks and the fiddly sd card cover that looks a bit flimsy but seemed to have held up well so far. Minor gripes really.

The screen is good enough for me, my good friend Shaks1979, a seasoned cook in the Diamond forums waxes lyrical about the advantages of the vga screen, but I dont feel the need to watch hd quality movies on my device and there arent that many (any?) games to truly take advantage of it.

Call quality is fiine, minor gripe about 3 networks signal strength but that more to do with it not being a three network device I believe.

I'm due at some point to get another device and have toyed with the idea of selling my Polaris, but in all honesty unless I find something that really blows my mind away (or is a real bargain!) I'm in no rush to upgrade as there really isnt any need. As you said Adderz, its a very powerful device which is still far from its shelf-life. Its just a pity that the few developers that owned one moved on very quickly so we're left to enviously watch the other devices gain momentum in the android stakes, but we are still seeing new cooks all the time like Rukako, Olliaglo and Pcarvalho making excellent efforts to keep our beloved Polaris well supported.

Where do I see the Polaris going this year? well actually we may see the Polaris take off again very soon as prices of the device come down and second-hand Polaris devices become attractive to the less financially fortunate as users upgrade. A second hand Polaris on ebay in the UK can be won for as little as a £100 - a bargain for a 3G, GPS, 400Mhz device and is likely to bring new blood to the scene.

Dont worry.. all is not lost yet - so chin up :)

ps. I STILL believe the Polaris forum was blessed with the best community of users.. and after 1000 posts here.. I hope you'll agree with me :p
[Touch Cruise Android Development] adderz91:
Im in the same boat, ive thought about switching but nothing is really mind blowing.

The Nokia E71 doesnt have a touch screen, relies too much on buttons the screen is a tad too small.

The Nokia 5800 is just a horrible, cheap and nasty phone with an OS that wasnt built for touch use, and the reviews say so.

Samsungs offerings are a dime a dosen, the Omnia was a good one but doesnt have the dev backing like most HTC devices do, is not that attractive and at the end of teh day has WinMo so theres no point.

HTC are also really letting themselves down at the moment. Incrementally upgrading, NOTHING they sell is blowing my mind. Im not going to fork out another 1k for a phone with a new shell and a better res screen. I want something more for my money.

Then comes Android, unfortunetly thanks to HTC, all the devices released so far have been HIDEOUS. The G1, the Magic, the Hero. They look like vomit.

The iPhone IS the perfect device in my opinion, everyone hates on it but its got great software, great hardware, great apps, great dev backing. Its all there. The only downside for me is the no turn by turn GPS but that is slowly coming. I wish more companies would emulate the iPhone.

I love Android, its the perfect mix between features and function, and it will come on a variety of hardware (which i like) and more than likely with a cheaper pricetag than the iPhone. I honestly cant see getting it to work 100% on the Polaris. Not even 90%. Which is a shame.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
LLuckly for me the stuff that is not working i dont reallly use much.

I have am having a great time downloading all these apps and seeign whats up. This is reallly quite an experience that I did not get from windows mobile.

I think as long as more devices keep coming out (lower end ones from other companies maybe), and vogue/kaiser users are still going strong, we still have a good chance of getting a better working os. And if the battery thing ever gets sorted out.. we will be laughing.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] adderz91:
What/Where are the latest files?

It seems people are finding them all over the place and combining them with others at the moment.

I havent given Android a go for a good month or so.

As long as it texts, calls and shows the time ill be pretty happy. Oh and the battery lasts longer than 5 minutes, ive read that it doesnt "sleep" properly and the CPU is running all the time, shortening the battery life or something?

Anyway if anyone could direct my to the latest files or what have you, id be happy to update the Wiki too.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
It seems nobody want to make a zip and upload it :s

I have left this thread few week ago and no i must read all polaris/kaiser/vogue if i want to have the full working lastest version.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Hi Flo, come HERE and you will get what you want :)

This is the latest Android ION version with calls, text, data working. you do not need to install android 1.1 first, you can straight away clear all old android files in your SD card root, then copy and paste the system.img, initrd.gz, latest kernal zImage, haret and also your default.txt.

So far camera, gps, BT, WiFi is not working, and the power draining problem.

i just realise that, with rename default.txt to startup.txt, when i launch haret, it will execute and load android instantly!

i'm surfing around to find more info to understand on how android working... still long way to go...:cool:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] adderz91:
So what exactly do we need to replace in that Vogue bundle?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Mormy:
I quote myself, so you haven't got to search, but it waa very few post ago ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
This is what i did:

1. deleted the current haret.exe, zImage, initrd.gz, data.img system.img in the SD card root.

2. downloaded the packages from HERE, copy and paste them in the SD card root. Below are the files i've downloaded (you might want to download the lastest, check on the date it was uploaded):

- dude13htcmusic.img (have to rename it to system.img)

- haret.exe

- zImage

- initrd.gz

- default.txt

Here's my default.txt:

you can also rename your default.txt to startup.txt. it works either way.

It takes a while to boot into Android, just wait with patience.... then when you get into Android, first thing is to sety up network APN (apn name, username and password) in order to be able to connect to the 3G or GPRS. Once done, use modem to connect and tata~~ done~~ you can launch market and sign in with your google account, then you are ready to fly~~~
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
@freddycs thanks for the package link, you should update the wiki page to help new user ;)

working good just the backlight keep stay on.

for information my default.txt :

#Polaris
set RAMSIZE 0x08000000
set MTYPE 1723
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "mddi.width=320 mddi.height=428 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcpolaris.panel_type=0"
boot
[Touch Cruise Android Development] adderz91:
ok im up and running, i simply took the bundle with all the nessesary files and switched the default.txt

I was able to make a call and send a text message.

However the only issues i can see is that the graphics are really fuzzy. I dont remember any previous builds being this fuzzy and that the touch input doesnt seem as precise as it once was.

Are there any benefits to using the other files hosted on the Google server or am i missing something?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Thanks guys, I'll updated the first post with the google address as soon as I can.

I was using android this morning and noticed that the battery was doing fine but I was in the middle of writing a post on here and the phone hung and rebooted. this happened again later when I was having a play on market.

Not good news, hope its just a glitch that fixable but its fast and a joy to use.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Bah, made a call!? Lucky you! That's the only thing I can't do :(

Anyways, as for the graphics, you hav eto play with the heights and widths. And since you have to do that, there is guaratenned to be some fuzziness. My height and width settings are width 336 and height 448.

The bundles on the google server are the most recent and i think that's where the most development testing and newest files are being held. Thats the only site I use for Android now,a nd the xda ion/vogue thread.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Unable to make phone calls: suggested solution :)

hi briggs81 and for those who can't make outgoing calls, here are something i found from the androidhtc.com, you might want to try this....

http://www.androidonhtc.com/troubleshooting
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Battery issue

After using the Android 1.5 for few days, i notice some problems with the battery:

1. seems that the battery % bar is now showing correctly, for example, say if it is showing 50% in Android, when i go back to winmo, it shows only 33%.

anyone know the solution?

2. battery is draining pretty fast, even i press the power button to put it into sleep mode, but if i turn it on agian after say 10 minutes, i notice that the battery level drop for few %, and i can feel that the phone is slightly warm.. which seems to be abnormal....

i found this too in the androidhtc.com...going to change my default.txt >>> pm.sleep_mode=1 and see if this help to solve the battery problem...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
hey Freddy,

yeah I have checked out that page, unfortunately my problem is something with android. someone has offered to take a look so hopefully he will have some success.

there are definetley problems with battery. if you change your sleep mode to 1 you should notice an improvement but waking up the device does not work perfectly. you may have to press the power button or the unlock button for it to wake up. I can deal with that though
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
updated first post and I would appreciate if a a few more people could add the vogue tree url to their signature. - thanks :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Hamzori:
Added link to my signature :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Mormy:
Just added ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] fets:
Hello

I follow all your instructions too boot Adnroid 1.5 ION.

Thank's to pananza for his tuto.

Interface is very smooth.

I can phone (outgoing & incoming) and connect with 3G

.... but I c'ant connect to my Gmail account and I can't surf on the web : the browser tell me my phone isn't reconise to surf with the browser !!!

As freddycs, my battery is draining pretty fast.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Hamzori:
When i used pm sleep 1 i did notice that battery is lasting longer and phone is not warm anymore.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
that's right, changing the pm.sleep_mode=1 can help to save battery power.

one more thing i notice is that, i remove mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0 from my default.txt and the graphics seems to run smoother :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I did wonder why that was left in.. I've got data and calls working perfectly at the moment.. just wish we had .. WIFI! :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Mormy:
What I miss to understand is if there is a really difference if I named the file default.txt or STARTUP.txt :confused:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] fets:
Can anyone surf on the web with the browser on Android 1.5 & the Cruise / Polaris ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I can surf now that I've formatted my card and started again. You need to add your apn details to the default.txt and also create an apn in android.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
default.txt requires you click run in haret.

startup.txt runs as soon you click haret. I've got mine named as startup,txt and I've assigned one of my buttons to haret so I can run haret as soon windows starts booting. There are no other differences as far as I can see.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] fets:
I added my APN details to the default.txt

and also create an apn in android by following :

Name : Orange World

APN : orange

Proxy : empty

Port : empty

Username : orange

Password : orange

MCC : 208

MNC : 01

MMSC : empty

Proxy : empty

Port : empty

APN Type : default

then I follow the pananza's post

=> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4037612&postcount=1384

I just can't sign in my Gmail account and surf on the web :(

... but I have not formatted my card ; is it this issue ?

Regards.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Hamzori:
If i remove mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0 my screen is full of random pixels.