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[Touch HD General] joey7415963:
If this does work I will definately be switching to the HD!!!

Thanks for the info'.
[Touch HD General] Cendaryn:
yeah credits belong to him but *sick* nothing more :(

I just installed the CAB, rebooted the device, plugged in the HTC Touch Pro TV-Out cable - and nothing happened :(

Should there be a control panel or a program icon? I can't find/see nothing...
[Touch HD General] cracou111:
same for me!:(

test it but nothing happens!

maybe the cab is not valid?
[Touch HD General] danny_and_2:
No the cab is fine, you have to find the .exe file in the explorer, it's in the windows folder..
[Touch HD General] q123123an:
I read in the diamond tv-out topic ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=412350&page=20 ) something about that you had to start the (tv-out)service (for example with http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm). They got to the point where inserting the cable gave the popup menu for tv-out, but no signal. Hopefully better luck for the blackstone..
[Touch HD General] abdijbhat:
Any success TV OUT for HTC Touch HD

Guys,

I have a HTC Touch HD and am desperate to have TV Out. I have a BrookStone Vuzix and would like to use it with this awesome device :)

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Abdij Bhat
[Touch HD General] lommer:
this is not possible because the hardware of touch hd does not support tv out.
[Touch HD General] raphael_ding:
I have tried this cab as well, nothing happened when running the .exe file. it seems HD doesn't support TV-OUT.
[Touch HD General] johnpatcher:
I'm not sure about that. The chipsets are mostly the same, so I think this is just a think of software.

A problem will certainly the difference in resolution :(, but its good to hear that at least sound works well.
[Touch HD General] Tatou26:
Maybe a chip is just missing in the BlackStone to have it.
[Touch HD General] Laurentius26:
Hi,

Bought a Rapheal Tv-out cable and cooked in the drivers for testing, no succes yet.

I keep on trying but I'm not a hardware expert and wonder if I'm not doing all for nothing. :(

Still investigating if I forgot some drivers/settings.
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
i suspect that the TV out chip is a seperate chip, there is no sence in HTC popping a chip in to a device that its not going to use, and if it could use it then they would say so since its a very big plus point. I highly doubt this is going to happen people, but please someone prove me wrong.
[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
Is there any motherboard comparison pics we could see. To notice any discrepancy's?
[Touch HD General] Laurentius26:
Yeah some pics of Rapheal and HD motherboards would be awsom. :)
[Touch HD General] ammar:
can you post the driver?

thanks
[Touch HD General] adam1890:
HTC Touch HD will have TV-out??????????????????
[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
Well, if you have read some of this page, it seems like its not at the moment ;).
[Touch HD General] NeoS:
Anyone thought of a wrapper .dll to link the drivers together? I know the P3D team needed to have those in order to make the Diamond drivers work on Polaris and Kaiser. It's just my 2 cents...
[Touch HD General] tarek_sm:
what do u think ?

I tried in my car today to insert the iPod jack to the HD jack and I had only voice(headset), then I had the idea to send this message to HTC Company

(Hello

I have this question

Always in Ur product have something missing ex: TV out on touch diamond and missing on touch Hd (u could place instead of 3.5 mm audio jack, (like on the i pod) a audio and video jack. It would be perfect and we could use our HD everywhere.

Thanks for getting my suggestion in consideration

Please if u can upgrade our HD to support a TV out function like on the IPod)
[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
Its a nice thought to send a letter, but in reality, they won't send nothing back. Just look what happened with the kaiser and the video drivers :rolleyes:. We need someone here on xda to pry open their broken Touch HD so we can see inside. There are already 2 things we need to see inside the HD, the frequency chip for the antennae, and for this. :eek:
[Touch HD General] pedrocard:
Yes TV-OUT POSSIBLE WITH A CABLE!!!!

Hey guys, just check this, there's already a TV-OUT cable for Touch HD.

h**p://cgi.ebay.com/For-HTC-Touch-HD-T8282-RCA-TV-Video-Out-AV-Cable-Lead_W0QQitemZ270330392815QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccesories_MobilePhoneDataCables_JN?hash=item270330392815&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177

Thanks
[Touch HD General] fredskis:
What? How? I wonder if indeed it will work...
[Touch HD General] Prof. Yaffle:
I'm sure a while ago someone on here had got a "Touch HD TV cable" from ebay and it did absolutely nothing.
[Touch HD General] JohnQ:
you ordered one? how does it work?....

....i dont think it works. :D
[Touch HD General] Lazy79:
i am sure it is a "fake" and not worth buying it.. or spend money on this cable at/on ebay.
[Touch HD General] fredskis:
That's what I think too but it's the first one I've seen that specifically advertises and guarantees it will work with the HD and even says that it is incompatible with other models, specifically mentioning the Touch Pro.

Interesting...
[Touch HD General] DAG0:
The strange thing is that is specified that this cable is for hd and not for diamond and pro, the other cables I see on the bay were all for touch pro, and some seller wrote also for hd but everybody knows is not possible (for the moment) so I've just asked to the seller of the (magic)cable, if he can test it and if he can proove me that it works, I will you know soon.
[Touch HD General] JohnQ:
me too, i also pm him. it seems he's not online. :cool:
[Touch HD General] Cheeze[iT]:
if he can provide video proof or whatever it'd be awesome to have video out! :D
[Touch HD General] gnagis:
still no answer ?

btw:

Return policy: The seller will not accept returns for this item.

lol?

anyway it seems stupid to try trick people with this becouse ther would be massive negative comments for it if it dosent work ?!
[Touch HD General] CutePinkSox:
Interesting

So you outputting sound via extusb? If so then it would interesting to see that if with these drivers the xperia radio panel that is being developed for Touch HD in this forum outputs sound with your driver tweak...

The panel loads fine apparently but with no audio as it may be outputting to the extusb.

Can you explain what driver it was etc and upload pls?
[Touch HD General] sutt359:
Ive just plugged my Diamond headset into the HD and it says get stuffed, so i dont know how audio is going to get sent over that tv out cable.
[Touch HD General] JohnQ:
got the seller's reply:

Hi friend

This item specially made for HD .It has been tested.We cannot take a video for you to make sure it really works out for HD since we dont have the phone.One thing we can sure it does works with HD.

i still dont believe him
[Touch HD General] Lazy79:
the same as my opinion.. i would refer to your avatar :) (i hope my english is well enough that you understand what i mean and nobody understands it wrong!)
[Touch HD General] jdavidgea:
I did ask that ebay seller about drivers or software neede for it to operate.

His answer:

"it has been tested.dont need software to works with it."

Uhm... I'm seriously thinking in buying one... :)
[Touch HD General] Insaneboy:
And how do you suppose it operates?? Magic?
[Touch HD General] ~~Tito~~:
Don't get it, you'll just waste your money on another snake oil product. . .:rolleyes:
[Touch HD General] jonajuna:
"The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing."

guess he worked out it wouldnt do what he was claiming after all? :)
[Touch HD General] jdavidgea:
Uhmmm... maybe I read an "extra" in that sentence that wasn't written.
[Touch HD General] istoica:
C'mon guys... it has to be a way. I get a decent frame rate via SOTI Pocket controller in portrait mode not to mention that it's a double way communication with all the mouse and keyboard crap.
[Touch HD General] Cheeze[iT]:
we all HOPE there is a way for TV-Out. But I'm not holding my breathe. Still a great Product none the less.
[Touch HD General] youngyoyo:
Htc max 4g has tv-out

anyone can take the driver?
[Touch HD General] 4irm:
wow, that's good news!
[Touch HD General] pedrocard:
Sorry form the late answer, I have been on travel. Yes it really works, and the quality is very acceptable. If you had checked the ebay member feedback, you had seen that many people thank him for the excelent product.

Sorry for the bad english, and no I can't provide a video because I does not have a camcorder.

Thanks
[Touch HD General] 4irm:
What is the difference between a touch pro and this tv-out cable???

Since one of those touch pro TV-OUT cables apparently don't work. What kind of ROM are you using (because of the driver)?

regards

irm
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
Really? Well, lets look at the fact:

- Seller ended the listing because of error in the listing (not because of sale)

- Seller did not re-list this or similar item, either before or after this one.

- That means there is no feedback for item 270330392815 or similar item.

- The guy who claims it works is not a common guest on this forum and conveniently could not make a video.

Lets add to that some common sense:

- Audio/Mic pins of ExtUSB are likely re-directed up to 3.5mm output

- Qualcom chip probably only has 2 sets of audio pins, one used for speaker, one for the output.

- Even if there are 3 sets, it is unlikely HTC would have used those for 3.5mm, as it would mean modifying drivers. If there are 3 sets, they would still *redirect* the 2nd set, so drivers and software can be ported from other devices as cheaply as possible. Unless of course if they *wanted* to keep ExtUSB compatibility, but then they would have advertised this.

- Above is for audio. For TV a different set of DLL/Dev/service is required, as some people on the other HTC devices have figured out (a specific set of TV-out related Raphael files is listed in a thread somewhere)

- Those TV-out files are not installed on the HD ROM (I checked)

So, that leads me to the following conclusion:

- It is *impossible* TV out works without proper software

- It is *very unlikely* Audio or TV on ExtUSB will ever work, it would have required HTC to put in hardware specifically for that and if they did that, they would have used it.

- Since the seller is not relisting, it was probably an honest mistake of him

- pedrocard needs to pull the other one, though I do not resent him having a bit of fun, it should not last too long

I would like nothing better than to be proven wrong, but I really think I have better odds buying a lottery ticket, and no amount of collective hoping and asking if 'someone' already got it working is going to change that.
[Touch HD General] kitano2009:
I gor reply from ebay seller.

Hello

Thank you for your interest of our goods,But sorry about that ,We are mistake the information ,This item is not work for touch HD ,just for touch pro or MAX 4G,respectfully to forgive ,Thank your qustion .

that is the answer.:mad:
[Touch HD General] istoica:
OK... Let's make it PC-out :P

In a previous post I was talking about SOTI Pocket controller pro... where the frame rate, compared with MyMobiler is... way better. The only thing that puzzles me is that the computer has the software to extract the information from the device therefore the only realistic option is to have like an on-cable box that could receive, translate and redistribute the signal through a TV, VGA or HDMI socket. The sound? If I had one of those translators I wouldn't mind having an extra cable for sound, going from my HD to the TV/PC
[Touch HD General] MDAIII Avdo:
unfortunately

This conversation is like Nike thred :( have WiFI or dosen't.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361923&page=93

Pity !!
[Touch HD General] Syrop:
if you have HD and videocable you can try files from htc MAX 4G (in attach)

in zip file - folder "to Windows" and "to Registry.txt"

copy files from folder "to Windows" to \windows (press Yes for Overwrite?)

in registry create or chandge values from "to Registry.txt"

reboot

go to Start-Settings-System-TV Out and check =)

try to connect cable

ps i don't have cable, so i can't try

pss sorry for my very bad english =)
[Touch HD General] MDAIII Avdo:
//

Not working or I dont know how implemented registery...
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
In order to have a TV out function you need hardware, drivers and compatable software, we can get the drivers, we can install the software but what you cant do is add the little Chip that creates the TV out RGB / compersite signal, if the device had the chip HTC would lose nothing in advertising its existance, infact if they added the chip and didnt advertise it they would be wasting money.

It makes no financial sence to do this, they have a working product on the Pro, so it does work, so the simple fact is, the hardware is lacking the capability to do it.
[Touch HD General] MJRL:
Its not the first time on HTC, remember Trinity?

1st roms didn't came with gps enable, so your teory didn't fit on htc.
[Touch HD General] kitano2009:
possibility

so anyone tried those steps?

I don't have the cable so I can not test it.

anyone tried it please tell us the result.:cool: thank you
[Touch HD General] MDAIII Avdo:
System dropping

When I change everything /overwrite ,regist. etc,/

ššššššššš

I must hard reset....:(
[Touch HD General] cybermaus:
For gods sake, if you must persist in this quest for the holy grale, at least search and read up on what others have already tried:

Indeed, if you move drivers from one hardware to another, there is always the risk of a hard reset

In fact, even in this very thead, people already tried that file before: post #17 and #23

It is the Microphone on the other device that doubles as video, and the Mic is not on the ExtUSB but on 3.5mm, so use te appropriate cable for that, like zune or ipod (you can use camcorder cable if you swap video and audio)
[Touch HD General] MDAIII Avdo:
nothing
[Touch HD General] NeoS:
That's because the mui needs to be translated. It's Russian.
[Touch HD General] garcianacho:
But... someone knows the entire process to have TV out in the devices that YES support this feature, to port after this process to our HD? I mean if it's necessary to change resolution, to activate any background process, to execute any command sequences...

Maybe would be a good idea that someone that have a tv out capable device, and has tried it, post here the whole process.
[Touch HD General] ZapD:
no news ?

Zap
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
do you know anyone that has this device working with TV out, i dont, i have never heard any claims that are true, the reason, because its highly unlikely that the hardware is present, it is a chip SET that makes a PDA and i believe that this particular chip is missing
[Touch HD General] grigsound:
I guess the moderators could close this topic. It's not leading enywhere.:(:(
[Touch HD General] :
Saying HTC would have provided if device supported may not be fair. They may have their own policies.

Why did they provide only a "Snap view" :p of WM on Shift ?

Actually it might be possible looking at the entire thing.

The TV out is ultimately controlled by the CPU. And simply putting another device driver on to HD or Diamond will never work.

First one need to get hold of the driver which is actually addressing TV out in say TP which itself is difficult as it seems like embedded in some other driver rather than dedicated file.

And then reverse engineer it to see what it exactly does.

Finally write a driver which addressees corresponding registers on Blackstone.

Then we get TV out. Simply put another device driver - it's gonna address wrongly and bring down the whole device.

Another possibility that no is finding proper drivers is that HTC has just implemented intentional block in some file, in which case it would be feasible task to get it back.

May sound simple in theory but too much of a hassle I think especially without any documentation or DDK.

Comparing this.. Something as simple as knocking off headset check from FM Radio driver has not been possible yet... So this one.. :rolleyes:
[Touch HD General] NeoS:
I'm thinking it's a DDI.dll problem. DDI.dll is the dll that addresses most graphic calls to the Coredll.dll, which (obviously) is the Core of Windows Mobile. The DDI.dll of the Pro has the calls for tv-out, which other devices do not have. You CAN'T swap ddi.dll from different devices. I guess there's your problem.
[Touch HD General] Bakamoo:
anyone tried this yet? another new item in ebay claiming it can play to tv, 4799 feedbacks.

http://cgi.ebay.ph/New-TV-out-AV-Vi...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
[Touch HD General] johnpatcher:
Another cool thing: http://cgi.ebay.de/FM-Transmitter-f...9|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

Won't work either, I guess, will it?
[Touch HD General] Bakamoo:
why do you need an fm transmitter, just plug an earphone on the jack, that should work, you can even set it to loudspeaker if you want to
[Touch HD General] dosari666:
TV-out here TV-out there!!:p

Touch Pro user's aren't satisfied with the quality of the output anyway...:cool:

Nvidia are enhancing hTC phones with Graphics Chipsets that supports HDMI Ports.. :D So if i were you, i'd wait and enjoy the 3.8" for now!.. ;)
[Touch HD General] bonesy:
Look at the seller on ebays feedback....nothing on there for the same as this item prob means it doesnt work!
[Touch HD General] Bakamoo:
oh well ive seen the limit of touch hd anyways, ill wait a year and perhaps sell it for a lesser quality phone. PSP and iPhone still have better games.
[Touch HD General] sevene:
Touch HD and all devices based on MSM7200+ support TV-OUT

its possible to connection betwen chip and extUSB like a touch pro

I think the tv-output is default off in touch HD but we need some drivers to run it.
[Touch HD General] dwaradzyn:
It doesn't really help that chipset supports that feature. It does also support USB host, but it cannot be used without hardware modification (there is no power supply for USB). It is possible that the same counts for TV-OUT.
[Touch HD General] FileFixer:
HKLM/Software/HTC/H2W/TVOutCableIn=0

Maybe in this key set to 1 and try to connect to TV?!
[Touch HD General] purec0de:
Hi all,

just a thought....

maybe i'm barking up the wrong tree but so far everyone seems concerned with getting TV out put from the extUSB socket on the bottom...

yet in this post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2610305&postcount=19

ultimately the output if from the 3.5mm jack (granted via an adapter in the usb)

so as the HD already has the 3.5mm jack on the top side...is this maybe where TV-out may come from (or is that where people are trying??).

with the above registry tweak and other drivers added i suppose we still need a basic circuit diagram to show whether TV is routed (if at all) from the 3.5mm or from the extUSB ???????????
[Touch HD General] San186:
N95 does TV OUT via the audio jack :)
[Touch HD General] Bakamoo:
wow tv-out via audio cable haha, thats so funny to see/read
[Touch HD General] purec0de:
Why?

other phones use this socket, on the HD it has 4 pin outs:

Left Audio

Right Audio

Common

Mic

would only take a simple software switch to route the video channel through the mic pin?????

i am not suggesting that this IS the way the HD works, simply that it is technically possible and has it been tested and ruled out:D
[Touch HD General] Elim:
That is what I know. The graphic chip has a TV-out but there is NO connect to any port.
[Touch HD General] purec0de:
Time to get the soldering iron out then...lol

such a shame HTC have crippled this feature :(
[Touch HD General] sevene:
its not usb host its extUSB with on-the-go (OTG).

(there is no power supply for USB) and ?

btw. no power supply <- lol read otg and cell desc.

"but it cannot be used without hardware modification"

Are you looking into hd and find circuts ?

so dont speculate
[Touch HD General] xmoo:
So had anyone tried the Touch Pro 2 tv-out software?
[Touch HD General] tids2k:
not yet ... if u are willing to extract the software i can test it on my TOUCH HD.
[Touch HD General] xmoo:
Already made a thread on the Rhodium part, but no succes yet!
[Touch HD General] tids2k:
alrighty thanks for the update mate ...

well what about the android part ..... are u still active on that !!!
[Touch HD General] xmoo:
a.t.m. not yet. 22 Days left till I get back @ home.

The reality is I founded out yesterday that my parents had sold my Xperia X1 :(

And I'm going to do buisiness next year, so I'm thinking about selling my Touch HD aswell and getting a Touch Pro 2.

So this is the reality a.t.m. Also the Android porting thing has gone low, cause now you have a lot of Android phones....
[Touch HD General] tids2k:
hmnn. ... i see !! well thats a miss then ... but android part would be interesting if you can port it on your touch hd before selling it ... and give it to us for free ;) as always ...

well good luck with ur holidays though ')
[Touch HD General] xmoo:
it's no holiday. I'm in Barcelona for a 6 months intermship, and it ends in 22 days :D

Will try to do something, but cannot promise anything.
[Touch HD General] Ikkari:
Maybe this could help a little:

Enable TV Out function without HTC original TV Out cable

http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/06/15/enable-tv-out-function-without-htc-original-tv-out-cable.html
[Touch HD General] Bruns86:
Just trided the app for my Touch HD.... Didn't work... My tv shows a couple of flickering grey lines!!

Maybe some one can use to create something for the Touch HD!!

I used a 3.5mm video cable from my digital camera... I don't have a USB video cable....
[Touch HD General] Ikkari:
Did you selected the right TV standard ;) ...Did you get the same result without the app??
[Touch HD General] Bruns86:
Smart thinking.... I selected other standerds but did not tested it without the app....

Conclusion: Without the app it shows the same grey flickering lines!!! :mad:
[Touch HD General] Ikkari:
The official page of nueTVOut says you need the Audio Dongle, but

i don't have one so i couldn't test it myself :(

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueTVOut.aspx

To use the TV Out, you’ll need the audio dongle (rectangular block) that came with the phone, as well as a camcorder/iPod video cable. Plug the camcorder/iPod video cable into the dongle, and plug the dongle into your phone. Open the control panel, enable the video output and select the correct standard (NTSC for United States/Canada), and press ok. If there is no video output, try switching the outputs until you get a signal (for me, the video was on the red right audio RCA, instead of the yellow video RCA). If you don’t get any video, most likely you have a cable for an mp3 player that has the ground connected to the wrong pin. Camcorder/iPod video cables work best.

Maybe with this driver and the dongle it will work.

http://assets2.tiltdepot.com/store_images/product_images/accessories/large/4401.jpg
[Touch HD General] cymax:
You want to say that.. we can use 3.5mm audio (headphones) output on our HD's to enable TV-Out function with this software?.. I dont think that is possible (but who knows maybe i am wrong). I have my old TV-OUT cable from my TP that i sold. Maybe i can try if that can give me some picture on the mini usb ext. and i dont think if that will work, because i dont have any software support in the rom. Maybe if someone can port TV-OUT software from TP or TP2 and i can try that
[Touch HD General] ceevee369:
Bullocks. HD has no hardware enabled TV Out. it is simply left out . not supported.

Read the website more carefully... "requires a PP with TV out"...

No soft or other cables will do the trick
[Touch HD General] foulke:
Did anyone with the right cable tried this application ?
[Touch HD General] acolytelee:
which driver? I am having some problems with my usb headset
[Touch HD General] Fallen Spartan:
MOD EDIT

Moved to general discussion as not related to rom development
[Touch HD General] casefan7:
So it seems that with the above mentioned 'driver' and this dongle/cable:

It should work?

I'm getting my HTC touch HD tomorrow, can't wait to flash the living **** out of it.:D