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[FYT Android Head Units] scottatl:
That is an encouraging answer, if you have a lead on a procedure that will work let me know. I often go a couple of days to a week without driving this car and don't want to drain the main battery. If i go through full startup I don't really have use of the rear cam until i have already backed out.
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
Seems like simple and valid question to me.

Answer is: usually modern car radios come with two +12V wires, one red that goes to the ACC wire from your keyswitch and one yellow that goes to the BATT +12V (colors could be different, usually this wire has a fuse in it) which goes to the Battery +12V terminal (that's why it needs the fuse).

That wire is the one you should use with your external battery. The other one you can leave as it is as powers up the unit when you switch on your key contact and thus has largest current draw. Don't forget to connect the - terminal of your external battery to the chassis at some point.
[FYT Android Head Units] Battoussai:
Hi there.

I have a question: but the external battery has to be connected to the main battery or at least to the alternator, or else it will be drained by the radio without incoming power, right?

And if 2 batteries are connected to the car won't be too much for the alternator to charge?

Regards
[FYT Android Head Units] Renate:
It would be interesting if someone actually measured this stuff.

At the very least check the quiescent current of the radio in sleep mode.

If your car battery is 60 Ampere hour and the sleep current is 10 mA it's good for 250 days!

For extra credit measure what all the other junk (engine computer) in your vehicle is taking.
[FYT Android Head Units] j-5:
These units should have 2 modes in settings for "power off" one puts it to sleep after a configured amount of time, the other shuts it off after that same configured time.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
That has already been done by several people.

See also my answer in this post.
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
Indeed connecting it straight to the car battery is not the correct way to do it.

To be charged by the alternator just like the car battery it should have at least these two thing in the circuit:

- A diode to make sure the alternator charges the battery only if the battery has a lower voltage and avoid any current flowing from the external battery to the car's battery.

- A relay to make sure that the external battery with the diode is only connected to the alternator when the engine is running. You need to check your car's electrical diagrams for that.

The diode needs to be able to handle the charge current for the external battery. This depends on its capacity.

It would be better to use a stabilizing charge circuit that actually regulates the charge current for the external battery. Modern cars have such a circuit built into the alternator but that circuit is based on the car's battery charging requirements, which is not the same as the external battery.

The previous posts and the link provided to others are very useful to get an idea of what type of battery you'd need. Be aware of the differences however as in the other thread it mentioned the discharge of the battery should no be more than 50% to be able to start the car in winter. This is correct but doesn't apply here as your external battery doesn't have the start function so you could actually use a lower capacity battery like those agm gel types used in motorcycles and ups's.
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
Just a few words of precaution. Depending on where you mount your external battery, but specifically inside your car, you should use a fire-resistant abs case. I've seen maintenance free gel batteries that are supposed to be "leak proof" oozing their liquid which is highly corrosive.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
This post is nonsense and based on flawed assumptions because OP has an issue with HU, wiring or the vehicle.

The headunit does not consume enough to be a problem, PERIOD.
[FYT Android Head Units] lr_man:
Maybe a small solarcell in the window - to compensate for the drain of power. Cheers

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2838867265...ZChPozcPp5V5/8JSXt4ZHHFg==|tkp:Bk9SR_Lq6-__YA
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
@marchnz is completely right. This extra battery is complete nonsence.

If you connect your unit correctly, you can easily last 30~50 days with your unit.

The average anti-marter "beepers" drain your battery in 10 days.

And if "someone" wants to continue with this ridiculous attempt he/she could buy an electrical car. In that case you have a huge battery.
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
Nice way to help someone asking a perfectly normal question. And for those who don't understand this: ANY question is valid, it's answer that may or may not be valid, as is clearly visible above.

Uneducated people that can't read or write (yes, they DO still exist) have more common sense and respect than any of the above answers demonstrate.
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
Actually that's not a bad idea, provided your car is not parked in a garage.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Fallacious nonsense. Can you stop now and stop entertaining nonsense.

Your problem if unwilling to get to the root cause or simply just trying to save face.
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Multiple people have already answered in a normal way on this nomal question that this extra battery is not necessary at all. We try to prevent costly and completely unnecssary actions. You sound like someone having knowledge of electrical systems, but have no knowledge at all about these FYT units, because if you did you would not continue to "advice" the OP this way to do this unnecessary and costly actions.

So yes, every question is valid, but not every answer. If you get a counter answer on that invalid answer, you should not blame us pointing at the question. We are pointing at the answer: your answer.

Simply connect the unit correctly and you don't need an extra battery. That extra battery is really ill-adviced.
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
You should read my answers more carefully, I NEVER advised about using the extra battery. I only responded to the question in the OP.

If someone wants to put extra battery in his car, for whatever reasons, and asks about how that can be done, I respond in an adequate way, bare minimum and some advice on a better option.

I'm not the one to lecture the OP on whether his question is right or not, or whether he should spend his money this way. That's up to him.

And just for the record, I did have an extra battery in one of my many cars, however that was because of a battery drain from an alarm system, not because of the radio.

I won't go into the comment on my knowledge, that's off-topic and won't do any good to the thread.

It would be nice to know what the OP thinks about all of these posts. Since his second post there have been no responses and it makes little sense to go on with a thread that isn't interactive.
[FYT Android Head Units] woodman:
Hi,

mirandam is just trying to help and answer the question asked in OP.

Please keep in mind the OP (scottatl) is free and I'm sure is able to judge which answer is the best for him/her.

I can see everyone here is trying to help by answering whether how to install a separate battery or explaining that doing so would be useless, I get that, but whatever the correct solution/answer is, you should all stick to the forum rules (#2 member conduct) and stay respectful.

You can absolutely post here to say you disagree and explain your stuff, this is the purpose of a forum, but please do it according to the forum rules.

Any posts / contributions are welcome here, please carry on.

Thanks

woodman

Senior Moderator
[FYT Android Head Units] mirandam:
The best way to tackle this problem is to actually measure the standby current needed by your radio.

You can do that with a multimeter in between the permanent +12V wire. That way you can determine what size of external battery you would need.

There are radios that draw just a few miliamps and others to go up to 100mA. Your battery capactity needs to be according to that. For example with lets say 4 mA you could easily use a 7AH gel agm battery.

That battery can be charged with around 200-300mA from the alternator, so you'd need a relatively small diode, like a 2-3A one. Using a automotive relay would more than sufficient (they tend to support up to 30A depending on the size) to do the job.

Even the suggested solar panel would work in such a setup. Putting a diode in the solar panel wire you'd even have an automatic charging either from the alternator or the solar panel, how 'bout that?

If you really want to get wild, you could use a solar energy controller. Instead of using the solar panel input you hook it up to your normal car batter and configure it in such a way that the maximum voltage drop would be like 3 volts (13-3 would be 10V enough to still start your car). When that controller goes under the drop it shuts off the line from you car battery and would switch over to your external battery.

It's much more complex but possible since solar energy controllers have dropped considerably in price.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Do not do this as is masking a problem.

There could well be a problem that eventually causes fuses to blow, the vehicle unable to start or worse still a fire in the vehicle.

It has been shown time and again despite posters well meaning, that the capacity of car battery means your Chinese greymarket headunit would take months to deplete in standby - unless there is a problem.

For saftey sake - Seek help from a qualified and reputable repairer - auto electrician.
[FYT Android Head Units] Renate:
Seriously, trying to make something more reliable by adding on some half-baked tech does not make anything more reliable.

OTOH, I have my $25 Walmart radio running on a Group 78N battery.

Just to be safe, I also have two 224 AH 6V "golf cart" AGM batteries, run 600 Watts of solar panels and a 2.8 kW generator for backup.

The radio has never failed me. (All of the above is true.)
[FYT Android Head Units] scottatl:
I just wanted to thank everyone that gave me some advice. I think I will just power it off the primary battery and see how it goes.....
[Google Pixel 7] thesm4rt1:
Curious what my fellow rooted folk are using. Here is my list:

Pixel Launcher Mods Overlay

More launcher options.

Pixelify

Google Photos backup.

Note: Pixel 7 exclusive options (unblur, magic erase) seem to have disappeared for me after installing this.

Systemless Hosts

For AdAway ad blocking

Unversal SafetyNet Fix

To make banking apps work

Ironically bootloop protecting modules (Magisk Bootloop Protector & SystemUI Bootloop Saver) make both 7 and 7 Pro bootloop shortly after reboot so had to go.
[Google Pixel 7] dmbardal:
Question: Why Pixelify? I thought that was for non-pixel phones?

Google Photos backup works perfectly for me with Google Photo.

I just saw that it enables unlimited backup. Never knew this was a thing.

I use the following Magisk-modules:

'Debloater' for removing YouTube and YT Music system-wide so I could install 'Vanced' properly.

'Hotello' / 'Project Themer' for system-wide theming.

'Systemless Hosts' for AdAway ad blocking.

'Universal SafetyNet Fix' for Google Pay, banking apps etc.

'Zygisk'. Not really a module I guess, since you enable it through the settings.

'JamesDPS'. Viper4Android alternative. Equalizer.

Here are my 'LSPosed' / 'Xposed' modules as well:

'Cast Enabler' so the volume buttons works for casting (Sonos etc).

'F*cking Internet Tile' splits up the internet-tile to WiFi and Data.

'GPS Setter' for spoofing (mock) your location.

'QuoteLockX' for quotes on the lockscreen.

'Themer' is the same as 'Hotello' / 'Project Themer' in Magisk.

'UpdateLocker' for locking my vanced versions of YT and YT Music to the newest working version of the apps.
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
Here's mine

AOSP Mods - to have many rom customizions

My personal custom system sounds - explains itself

Custom font module - explains itself

Pixel launcher mods overlay - for some pixel launcher customizations

rboard themes - rboard module for customizing gboard

substratum lite overlay helper - for theming with subs

Zygisk - LSposed - needed for LSposed
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
What is this exactly? And where can i download it?
[Google Pixel 7] Lughnasadh:
-Busybox for Android NDK

-Custom Font

-JamesDSP

-mindetach

-Music ReVanced

-substratum lite Overlay Helper

-Systemless Hosts

-YouTube Revanced

-Pixel Launcher mod
[Google Pixel 7] dmbardal:
Its a module for LSPosed (The newest updated Xposed that works with Android 13).

It locks your chosen apps from being updated, so you can lock it to a certain version.

You download the old version from apkmirror, then you lock it to that version.

Then the Play Store can't update it.

If you got LSPosed, its already in the module-section (repository) there under 'Update Locker'.

Here is the link to the Update Locker-thread here in XDA.
[Google Pixel 7] Larakali:
I can use Bootloop and SystemUI Protector fine btw. 7Pro
[Google Pixel 7] armeya:
How can I get unlimited google photos backup? and is it backed up in original quality?
[Google Pixel 7] dewri21:
Modules:

• Google Sans font module

• Substratum lite overlay helper - to hide the gesture bar and still keep the keyboard raise

• AOSPMods, but it was causing issues, so had to remove it

• Pixel Launcher Mods overlay

• And of course, displax safetynetfix

Apps with root access:

• Airfrozen - to freeze Magisk; some banking apps would otherwise detect Magisk

• AFWall+ - to disable wifi/mobile data for some apps

• Better Internet Tiles - to seprate wifi and mobile data tiles in QS panel

• Pixel Launcher Mods
[Google Pixel 7] dewri21:
Can you please share the link of this module? Thanks.
[Google Pixel 7] dmbardal:
Its on the Play Store actually.

Project Themer · Android 12/13 - Apps on Google Play

Customize your Android!

play.google.com
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
I'm using latest stable v2.3.0 and i have no issues with it

But instead im not able to get wallet working in any way :(
[Google Pixel 7] RonnieTheBear:
How long have these google photo backup modules been in use? Any reports of Google banning/penalizing accounts in response?
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
I had it for almost a year with oneplus 8t/EvoX custom rom. No ban at all
[Google Pixel 7] forever_lol:
I've already tried:

1 universal safetynet fix - didn't do the trick unfortunately - play store still recognizes phone as not certified. I guess we'll have to wait for an update.

2 magisk hide props - pixel 7 not supported yet.
[Google Pixel 7] bs3pro:
Is there a module that enables unlocking phone without hitting enter after putting pin in?
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
AOSP mods, but you need lsposed too
[Google Pixel 7] bs3pro:
Thanks. Its broken on the beta a13, now i cant unlock after reboot. LOL Is there a way to disable the mod in fastboot? Or adb while phone is on, and locked? NVM, I removed modules in adb.
[Google Pixel 7] hndrk-:
which font module are you using? the ones ive tried didnt work?
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
Module from Magifonts (telegram group). You upload in the chat your ttf file (or zip) and the bot prepares you the magisk module. Currently im with modulus font. ;)
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
Im not on beta channel but on stable latest a13 so i didnt try the module there yet
[Google Pixel 7] Skysurfer77:
From here: https://xdaforums.com/t/unlock-boot...net-working-again-all-relevant-links.4502805/

***

Saturday, October 15, 2022

: New Universal SafetyNet Fix released by @Displax, which is a later minor revision of the test MOD version previously posted in this thread, and of the original MOD 2.0 which apparently had some typos - the latter which didn't work due to the typos but is now fixed if you download the latest one. You can get it either from XDA or on GitHub.

***

This is just working for me. Without hide props stuff.
[Google Pixel 7] thesm4rt1:
Interesting. Must be something else I have running in conjunction with those two that's giving me trouble. Thanks for the info!
[Google Pixel 7] wowkazmir:
I'm curious to try this "Hotello" module, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Could you point me into the right direction?
[Google Pixel 7] dmbardal:
Hotello is actually Project Themer in the Play Store.

Its installed as app, module in magisk and LSposed.

It works perfectly.
[Google Pixel 7] Larakali:
After reinstall for Custom Kernel it now RestartLoops.

This is due to it failing 3 times to verify Zygote Process sig or whatever it says in its Description.

However SystemUI thing works fine
[Google Pixel 7] coolsid8:
Any module which puts back the camera shortcut on the lockscreen ?
[Google Pixel 7] xdeeranx:
AOSP Mods does this. I have both camera and flashlight shortcuts on.
[Google Pixel 7] veitograf:
Do you have problems with Banking apps and lsposed? I remember on my pixel 4 it took me a very long time to get them to work. Magisk was fine but with lsposed it took me forever to find a way to make them work.

On topic: i am using systemless hosts + Universal safety net MOD + de-bloater.
[Google Pixel 7] daggorlad:
How did you get JamesDSP working. I have been trying for days now. It just crashes on fresh install.

Also thanks for the debloater part, it helped me get YT vanced working.
[Google Pixel 7] MultiCulti:
Guys, what Pixel Launcher Mod Overlay is that you're using?
[Google Pixel 7] xdeeranx:
No problems with banking apps and lsposed. It's been working great so far.
[Google Pixel 7] veitograf:
And you don't use any modules to hide root or lsposed?

So far I am using the modded safety net fit but I remember using some module to hide lsposed when I was using it on my old phone.
[Google Pixel 7] xdeeranx:
Not using any modules to hide root or lsposed. Just using the hide magisk setting in the magisk's app and unverisal safetynet fix V2.3.1-MOD_2.0 (Displax) version.
[Google Pixel 7] xdeeranx:
Do you have a link for that custom system sounds? Been trying to look for it but can't find it. Been trying to change the lock screen sound.
[Google Pixel 7] veitograf:
One last question: do you use Google pay? I remember that being the most difficult app to get to work again and after installing lsposed.
[Google Pixel 7] xdeeranx:
I have everything set up to be able to use it and assume it's working. But haven't had the opportunity to use it physically in a store yet so wouldn't be able to give you the full answer.

EDIT: Have used google pay in store and worked successfully as of 11/21

Here is my current list of mods to help as well:

AOSP mods

De-bloater

Rboard Themes

systemless hosts

universal safetynet fix

Lsposed

UpdateLocker
[Google Pixel 7] liver20:
What audio magisk module recommend?
[Google Pixel 7] liver20:
Where download safetynet-fix display build?
[Google Pixel 7] wowkazmir:
Here: https://github.com/Displax/safetynet-fix/releases
[Google Pixel 7] dmbardal:
Say 'yes' to Huawei when installing.

Downloaded from https://xdaforums.com/t/jamesdsp-audio-manager-mmt-ex.3607970/
[Google Pixel 7] dmbardal:
Everything works.

Now, there might be some weird bank-apps that have issues that haven't been reported yet.

However, Google Pay is working perfectly, and all my norwegian banking apps works perfectly with no issues,

and I've had issues on previous Android versions (and jailbroken iOS for that matter).
[Google Pixel 7] daggorlad:
Thanks, this worked. I am sure I just overlooked that part every time I read instructions just because I saw "Huawei" and skipped over it.
[Google Pixel 7] nasedase:
I usually go stock for a few months before I root. Is there a Google pay workaround for pixel 7 root?
[Google Pixel 7] daggorlad:
Use the above Universal SafetyNet Fix and magisk hide.
[Google Pixel 7] Hitman478™:
No because it was a blank template, i did it years ago for my self to change touch and lock screen sounds.

Try to look for an empty magisk module template
[Google Pixel 7] andybones:
Are you using the modified Universal Safetynet Fix, Displax based on the OG from kdrag0n

Releases · kdrag0n/safetynet-fix

Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix

github.com

I suggest giving bootloop protector a flash.

Works very good for saving you from a bootloop if one occurs.

GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/HuskyDG_BootloopSaver: Protect your system from bootloop caused by Magisk modules.

Protect your system from bootloop caused by Magisk modules. - GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/HuskyDG_BootloopSaver: Protect your system from bootloop caused by Magisk modules.

github.com
[Google Pixel 7] andybones:
Most simplistic Magisk Modules can be turned into a template.

Something like this here.
[Google Pixel 7] Medeon:
Same thing happened to me. 😆 I use Pixelflasher to update. It has an inbuild bootloopprotector that can switch off modules. alternatively you can use adb shell as root to disable magisk modules.

My modules are:

Advanced Charging Controller - for better battery life

Systemless Pixel Launcher Mod Lite

Universal Safetynet fix MOD 2.0

AOSP Mods - for extended customizations

Zygisk LSPosed

Systemless Hosts

YouTube Adaway - Xposed module for ad free YouTube whilst being able to update YouTube app effortlessly.

Still want more inspiration? Go to the modulesrepo telegram group
[Google Pixel 7] googletermsofservice:
Thanks for this thread, it's my favorite on the p7 board so far :)
[Google Pixel 7] priyeshbhawsar:
Hey i would really appreciate some help setting up pixelify, i tried it multiple times but I'm not able to make the unlimited storage work. If you can share the link and all the setup details you use. I tried using it but the photos app crashes and the phone reboots and the module gets disabled
[Google Pixel 7] armeya:
I have the same problem, the phone reboots and module is disaed. I was running on my xiaomi mi 8 on pixel experience and having unlimited storage original quality and I am missing it so much on the new pixel 7.
[Google Pixel 7] thesm4rt1:
I just flashed the zip file from github and it worked. Try enabling Zygist in Magisk settings and install Lsposed with the Pixelify G Photos app (also on Github)
[Google Pixel 7] armeya:
should I enable anything in the setup of pixelify while flashing it in magisk ?
[Google Pixel 7] priyeshbhawsar:
Yeah i even tried this but the lsposed app doesn't make any difference at all. And zygist is also enabled
[Google Pixel 7] armeya:
I figured it out. You have to install the pixelify beta module
[Google Pixel 7] priyeshbhawsar:
Can you please share the link? Thanks a lot
[Google Pixel 7] armeya:
Sure

Pixelify Beta Updates

A magisk module that enables pixel exclusive features like Call Screening, Live Translate, Direct Call, Google Dialer Call Recording, Extreme Battery Saver, Hold For Me, Gboard Smart Compose,...

www.pling.com
[Google Pixel 7] mat-sie:
What is more recommendable in terms of resource friendliness:

1) Internet Tiles, or

2) Better Internet Tiles?
[Google Pixel 7] wowkazmir:
There is a Lsposed module that splits the wifi and data tiles too.
[Google Pixel 7] efkosk:
AOSP Mods

SKVALLEX

SafetynetFIX
[Google Pixel 7] FloyderE:
Hi! Can you direct me to a link to download the Pixel Launcher Mods you use? I come from an old Oneplus 5 so I am not used to this kind of modules: I tried AOSP Mods and Pixel Launcher Mods Overlay from Quinny899, but neither of those actually worked in helping me extending the customization of the stock Pixel Launcher.

For now I am using Action launcher, but I am missing so much the color adaptive icons >.< (If any of you knows a way to use color-adaptive icons in other launchers, let me know!)

Thanks in advance =]
[Google Pixel 7] Kusay_1:
Hey guys.

I realize i have a niche use case,but is there a module(or any way whatsoever) to enable my tablet to be tethered to my phone via Bluetooth for internet and be connected to wifi whenever it is available without disconnecting the phone tether ?

Im on android 11(Samsung galaxy tab s5e)and there's no android 13 custom ROM,and i believe A13 supports this natively,so i have to find other ways to do this.

Thanks in advance