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[Magisk] Kasinel:
I would like to use HMS to stop the auto-update from the play store, when im select the apps to be hidden, the play store does not launch at all, what can I do? I have the latest magisk, latest lsposed, all activate
[Magisk] zgfg:
I had reported that 7-8 months ago to the HMA GitHub but it was never fixed (not even answered), and eventually the issue was automatically closed since I did not do a 'feedback'

Detaching with HMA worked fine with HMA v2.x, the issue came with v3.x

Anyway, don't use HMA for detaching apps from Playstore. Use another LSPosed module, UpdateLocker
[Magisk] Kasinel:
I come here precisely because UpdateLocker doesn't work for me
[Magisk] zgfg:
Try your luck with MinDetach (also LSPosed module) or TeMeFi app.

Hint: Look into ReVanced thread (I don't use them anymore, hence have no links for download)
[Magisk] ipdev:
I am using HMA 3.x with no issues hiding apps from PlayStore. 🙂

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] ipdev:
Try clearing data/cache from the PlayStore app then see if it will open?

To use HMA to hide apps from PlayStore, you need to apply it in BlackList Mode.

See post above.

If you have time..

Try adding the apps one at a time to your "PlayStore" hide list and see PlayStore will open.

Maybe one of the apps require access to PlayStore?

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] fbirraque:
Thanks for your feedback.

I confirm that latest HMA works flawlessly for me to hide apps from Play Store updates with Magisk 26.2 (Canary).
[Magisk] naguz:
With lates Magisk Delta (26.1 stable) and latest Lsposed 1.9.1. (6990) latest Hide My Applist (3.2) does not work if I set Enforce SuList in Magisk. Adding Hide My Applist to the SuList does no help, even with a reboot and force close/clear cache of hide my app list.

HMA does not open, but freezes on the opening screen. The apps that are enabled in HMA refuses to work, either freezing on start or crashing while running.

After disabling SuList in magisk, stuff works again.

I tried to file a bug on github, but it is impossible, as all bugs are automatically invalidated of not done by a debug version, he has expired (removed) the last debug version, and version 3.2 does not have a debug version. Effectively he is invalidating every single bug report, that's one way of reducing the workload...
[Magisk] pndwal:
So did you try to follow instructions to use CI debug build from actions?... Or just conclude bug requirements are "impossible to fullfill" and disparage her for "unreasonable restrictions on your issue form"? 🤔

... Others seem to have succeeded in making bug reports with CI...

Edit:

I see CI has been broken since 3.1.1... and

fix ci #277 opened 2 weeks ago by rhjdvsgsgks... Still not merged yet but...

Still, others have been able to submit bug reports simply by saying 'used 3.2 release' etc while putting "Hide-My-Applist version/Hide-My-Applist 版本

HMA-V3.1.1.r404.c9f7cbb-debug" in the text body... It is expired of course as soon a another release is available (despite it being broken ATM) because Devs will not waste time diagnosing old builds / debug logs... A debug build is generally mandated for bug reports as the use verbose logging for diagnosis unlike builds with release flag...

Please note that these Devs are just modders like us, making mods they make for themselves available for others to use... They don't owe us anything... We owe them a lot...

Further, I doubt that the LSP Devs will be too worried about an unofficial magiskhide method/fork being incompatible... They make Shamiko for official Magisk...

😬 PW
[Magisk] adivvkvns:
help. when I move banking applications to the SD card - they says that i have root.

and when I move it back to the internal, everything is ok, i dont even have to clear the app's data and cache.

I have Android 10, I use Hide My Applist (configured correctly) coupled with AppDataIsolation Legacy Support magisk module.

I simply couldn’t find any other ways to hide Magisk and (l)xposed modules.

since Shamiko and hiding of magisk app can't help me.

On Android 12 and 13 it was much easier to hide root from banking apps.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Root apps/functions don't work on adopted storage... I guess root mods don't work there either...

If A12,13 was easier, why did you downgrade to 10? 🙃 PW
[Magisk] adivvkvns:
I really didnt think that on a10 and below it would be some way harder to hide root etc. from banking apps.

I tried to find a stable a12 and a13 rom for my phone, which was unsuccessful (since there are almost no official custom roms).

Then switched to a10 (custom) and was pleasantly surprised at how stable the rom is, high performance, without SD card falls, basically everything i need works like a clock
[Magisk] RockerAlex:
I noticed "Vold isolation" is off by default - should this not be turned on?
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Sadly, it's no longer surprising to me that the Googlefrinchians keep making newer versions of Android more difficult to deal with ... also for custom ROMs that must adhere to these increasingly onerous Android standards.
[Magisk] dipseeet:
:(

what's the difference between

'App data isolation'

and

'VoId app data isolation'

?

(VoId = void or volt?!)
[Magisk] ipdev:
For hiding app data directory(s).

App data isolation is hiding:

/data/data/NameOfPackage

Vold app data isolation is hiding:

/sdcard/Android/data/NameOfPackage

Personally, I just leave the defualt settings.

Note:

A while back, isolation gave unwelcome effect.

For some it crashed the app, others it crashed the device.

Obviously it was fix but, you might want to keep it in mind when you start modifying isolation settings.🙃️​

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] RockerAlex:
I don't understand if it needs to be on or not?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Why don't you leave by default (frankly, I've never opened those inner settings and I see that all three are enabled)
[Magisk] ipdev:
Interesting. 🤔️

I checked a few more devices earlier this morning, all have Vold disabled by defualt.

Save for Poco F1.

MiUi Global 12.0.3 (Android 10).​

---

My 7T had not been updated in a while.

It was still on the HMA 3.x beta.

Curios if updating would make a difference?

So, I updated Magisk, LSPosed and HMA.

Still the same, Vold was disabled by defualt.

Not sure what caused Vold isolation to be enabled by defualt on your device. 🤔️

I am using the Zygisk version of LSPosed, not sure if that would make a difference?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] zgfg:
Interesting. I just checked my 2nd phone, they are also all three enabled
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
@zgfg Only thing I specifically remember while testing and enabling vold isolation, Momo crashed and reports something about services not responding or something. After that one time I have always kept it disabled.
[Magisk] zgfg:
First screenshot (Momo detecting Magisk) with Vold enabled (all three enabled).

However, I'm not hiding anything from Momo by use of HMA - ie, I don't have Momo in the App Manage list

On the second screenshot Momo declares that Environment is broken but that's only when I enable Momo in the HMA App Manage list.

And even disabling Vold does not help

And I recall that once I also had Momo like crashing and reporting that something was not responding or so, but I had it only upon I enabled hiding from Momo in HMA. And it was gone when I disabled hiding from Momo in HMA

But I don't use HMA to hide anything from Momo - besides, there is no point in that

By scrolling Momo down, it clearly explains that Momo does not scan for installed apps - third screenshot, hence there is no point in hiding apps (Magisk app, LSPosed modules apps) from Momo by enabling Momo in the Manage apps in HMA

And again, I have two phones and on both I found today that Vold was enabled. I don't remember that I ever had enabled that - actually I don't recall that I ever bothered to open and look in that part of HMA Settings
[Magisk] ipdev:
Your experiment proves that enabling Vold gives unwanted results. 🙃️

I duplicated it.​

Momo:

Takes a bit long to load and shows an error when included in HMA when Vold is enabled.

Gave me an error when I tried taking the initial screenshot.

Boot took a little longer and WiFi did not connect right away.

​

Does not when Vold is disabled.

In-turn, another app that is included in HMA might just crash or worse yet, lockup the device.

So, I think I will leave Vold disabled for now. 😉️

Cheers. :cowboy:
[Magisk] pndwal:
Actually, this user downgraded and found it more difficult to hide root. 😆

And custom ROMs don't need to comply... Obviously being Treble / Mainline compliant etc has many advantages and makes maintenance etc easier, just as it does for stock... But custom Devs can opt out of anything, including turning off security (selinux enforcement) - user beware -, not using dynamic partitions (to allow system RW) - and most custom ROMs go for RW AFAIK - etc etc if they wish. 😬 PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
I don't see that my results prove what you say... or I don't get you

1) What exactly less detections you see in Momo when hiding from Momo is enabled in HMA, vs when it is not enabled?

Again, per Momo instructions, Momo does not look for other apps hence it should not be needed to enable Momo in HMA - screenshot attached

2) I do have Vold enabled (and I don't have Momo in HMA) and I never observed issues with Wifi, all other detectors pass (ok, Native test reports injections) and Momo does not report that Environment is broken and/or that Service is not responding

3) Now, I have retested couple of times and on one of my phones (Xiaomi.eu, A13, Magisk Canary) I actually cannot disable Vold.

I disable, force- close HMA, reopen HMA and Vold is stilldisabled.

However, upon reboot, Vold is automatically enabled again

On my older phone (Xiaomi.eu, A11, Magisk Delta), I can disable Vold (it remains disabled upon reboot) but if I include Momo to HMA, it still detects Magisk (the 'root', not app), hence I don't obtain exactly the same results like when hiding from Momo is not enabled in HMA
[Magisk] mGforCe:
In my setup (check spoler) Ruru v1.1.0 is detecting Libc File and Syscall File for HMA.

Ruru has been selected in Unmount as well as in HMA. Anyway to avoid that detection? May be hence some bank apps failing.

PS: For me, under HMA settings "Vold app data isolation" is disabled by default. I tried enabling it once and phone became super slow.

Spoiler content hidden.

Otherwise system is all good in TB Checker, Rootbeer, AppList Detector etc.
[Magisk] vudungcom:
Hi all,

i need your help,

below is a banking app, it detect my device is rooted then refuse to run,

i tried to use HMA and config but when i start it, it show only white screen,

techcombank - Android Apps on Google Play

Enjoy millions of the latest Android apps, games, music, movies, TV, books, magazines & more. Anytime, anywhere, across your devices.

play.google.com

could you give it a try? no need to login just wait 10s then it will so "device is rooted)

Many thank
[Magisk] mGforCe:
I just tried with my setup, refer to this post, one above. Post installation of this app, I added it to Unmount (in Magisk) and added it to HMA to hide all root related apps/modules.

This bank app works well, no close even after 20 seconds.

No Lsposed module was enabled for this app.

PS: Screenshot is not allowed for this app.
[Magisk] vudungcom:
Thank for trying. Before adding app in HMA, i did not pass applist detector, how to hide lsposed
[Magisk] zgfg:
Hide also LSPosed from Applist in HMA

Or uninstall LSPosed APK (not the module) and use its Parasitic Manager:

- click on LSPosed notification (hanging all the time) to openLSPosed mngr

- or, from LSPosed mngr Settings, install its shortcut

- or, run from Terminal emulator to open mngr (prepend adb shell if calling from adb):

su -c am start -c org.lsposed.manager.LAUNCH_MANAGER com.android.shell/.BugreportWarningActivity
[Magisk] ykjae:
Hello all,

I'm re-configuring my hma blacklist template. I know to hide all xposed modules, and common root apps. My question is should I hide every app that asks for root permissions? Such as Revanced Manager, Tasker, Kernel Managers, Kernel Flasher, etc.

What about com.android.shell? (Lsposed Shortcut)
[Magisk] zgfg:
LSPosed kind of 'injects" its shortcut to the shell but shell is a regular, prerinstalled system app, it's not an indication of root and don't hide it

For the root apps you listed - you may test if it helps when you hide some of them to pass a particular 'banking' app. It will be interesting to know if you prove that a particular 'banking' app looks for one of them

Btw, ReVanced can be used in the non-root mode, hence one should not take the presence of RV mngr as an indication that phone must be rooted
[Magisk] ykjae:
I see. Thank you for explaining that. So basically if an app asks for root access but can function without it - such as file explorers, adaway, etc. I'll not hide them.

Thank you!
[Magisk] vudungcom:
My banking app detected rooted again and refuse to run

Already done as below:

1, not found in detector

2, add in deny list of magisk and hide magisk,

3, configure HMA

the banking app name is techcombank ( TCB)

Pls feel free check where i made a mistake. Tks
[Magisk] liver20:
Hi

How It works?

If want yo hide bank app, magisk hide and Play integrity fix not works....

Should hide bank App with hma module?
[Magisk] pndwal:
No need to hide bank app... They look for apps associated with root or modding... You would use HMA to hide these from a bank app. 😛 PW
[Magisk] antoinecimino:
Hi, I have run a test on Applist Detector and in the Magisk App, it has found "sppi.n". Any idea of what it is?

Many thanks
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
If you have hidden magisk, that looks similar to the package name. You have to include the hidden magisk app in your root template too. Should look something like in the attachment. I had hidden Magisk as Imp_Settings and you can see the package name which I have circled for your reference.
[Magisk] Big Dumb Object:
After some testing, I can confirm that "Exclude system apps" toggle disabled indeed causes some target applications to crash (e.g. TrustDevice). But as a long-time XPrivacyLua user, I am very surprised by this behavior, since XPrivacyLua restricts access to system apps without such a negative consequences. So my question is: why not adopt the same approach in HMA to make it perform just as well with system apps as XPrivacyLua do?

P.S. I really don't know of a better place to post my suggestion, as the project has no issues section or an official chat room, so this is just a cry into the void.
[Magisk] kramer04:
Hello

have a Note9 Samsung with custom rom from here https://xdaforums.com/t/noble-rom-3...-10-2023-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/

Android 13 and oneui 5.1

Magisk Canary 26302 is masked.

my app bank detect root even with HMA v3.2 and zygisk LSPosed v1.9.2(7024)

ApplistDetector doesn't find anything but Xposed Modules found HMA.

On Template manage i added all rooted apps and HMA

On App manage i added my bank app and HMA

so any idea what is wrong, i can't mask root to app bank

Thanks
[Magisk] zgfg:
On app mngr you should not add HMA but AppList
[Magisk] kramer04:
ok now ApplistDetector found nothing but bank app detect root

I just see that TWRP is suspicious
[Magisk] antoinecimino:
Thank you for your message. It is strange because I have hidden magisk and I have added the package name to HMA.

See below for some screenshots of my settings:
[Magisk] kramer04:
to be sure, your module is activated but not running, have you rebooted ?
[Magisk] antoinecimino:
Yes I have just rebooted, still the same in terms of detection. Both Magisk and Lucky Patcher seem to be identified
[Magisk] antoinecimino:
Also, this setting seems to make my Youtube / Youtube Vanced app crash
[Magisk] kramer04:
i think Google Android found a new way to detect root. HMA can't mask root to bank app. I tested many things, but my bank app detects root, no way. Lot of complain of users unable to mask root. May be it's better to wait if there'll be an update
[Magisk] zgfg:
Are you really using stone-age old YT Vanced?

It was succeeded by YT ReVanced
[Magisk] zgfg:
Banks and their developers are one thing, Google and their Android - more precisely GMS as part of Play Integrity Services the other

If you pass Basic and Device Integrity, that's it reading Google and their Play Integrity (you cannot pass Strong with unlocked BL and modded phone)

And for Google and their Wallet and all other Google apps, that's enough

What you are talking about your banking apps detecting - that's what those and particular banking apps and their particular developers do
[Magisk] antoinecimino:
Yes it is still working as charm on my side using the Vanced Installer and downgrading / deleting the youtube app before install (using De-Bloater). ReVanced is quite good apparently too but some features were potentially missing
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Yes, and even though Google's tools are used in many apps (not only banking apps) to determine whether a device has been rooted or modded, more and more app developers are going beyond those Google-supplied tools and are trying to detect rooting and modding in other ways.

So, even if some sort of fool-proof method is devised some day to totally foil all of Google's root-detection and mod-detection tools, some developers will still probably figure out other methods for getting their apps to detect this rooting and modding.

It's inevitable that we mice will eventually lose this cat-and-mouse game.
[Magisk] marcopit-92:
Hi guys my HMA app is detected on applist detector under xposed modules. What I should do to hide it?
[Magisk] zgfg:
You mean vice versa

Hide HMA from Applist as you would hide (each LSPosed module) from any banking app
[Magisk] pndwal:
As above, but I told you that yesterday... Just reminded you:

https://xdaforums.com/t/module-play-integrity-fix-safetynet-fix.4607985/post-89155276

😜 PW
[Magisk] TraderJack:
Hey guys, been away for a while. Last I checked in we were having a friendly debate about BL vs WL mode. My argument was to use WL mode because it was much easier to setup and maintain.

Personally, I still find this to be the case and all of my apps which require HMA seem to work fine in WL mode.

I'm curious what others have found as I still see comments about being careful with WL mode which are curious to be based on my experiences.

Those not using WL mode, what are the reasons? I assume the main one being that the app simply doesn't work in WL mode and thus BL is required? Do you think these cases are app specific or more device specific?

I would be curious for anyone who claims BL list is required to share the name of an app that they could only get working in BL mode...
[Magisk] mGforCe:
In a fresh install ROM, Derpfest A14 on Redmi Note 7 Pro with KSU synced kernel

I enabled

vold data isolation

and my rom has become close to unresponsive. Apps are stuck at logo and are not opening.

To get out of this I tried a few things:

1) Open HMA to disable "vold data isolation" but HMA app is not opening.

2) Uninstalled HMA and rebooted, but same issue - super slow and most apps not opening.

3) Went to TWRP and deleted folder under /data/adb, but still no benefit.

4) Dirty flashed ROM again, still no benefit.

Any solution here?

EDIT: Learnt that enabling "vold data isolation" is a complete NO NO in Android 14. I ended up wiping all partitions except internal storage and reflashed ROM.
[Magisk] Big Dumb Object:
To use XPrivacyLua. It still manages that task much better.
[Magisk] mGforCe:
Not sure if you missed the issue... but I wanted help regarding getting out from this situation & disable "vold data isolation"

XprivacyLua stopped working for me in A13 itself few months back. Not sure if it works with A14
[Magisk] Aguys:
Same here on my Blueline (HOS A14), I ended up wiping my phone too. No solution so far.
[Magisk] mGforCe:
Request OP ipdev, to add this warning.

Do not enable "vold data isolation" in HMA settings for Android 14. Leads to frozen system.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Not necessarily

See my screenshot - I have it enabled for months on two phones and never had a problem

It depends on your other settings
[Magisk] m0han:
I couldn't make out from your screenshot, but I guess you are indeed running Android 14. And, what are the other (possible) settings you're talking about?
[Magisk] zgfg:
A13, not A14. On the other phone even older, A11
[Magisk] m0han:
@mGforCe was requesting ipdev to add this warning:
[Magisk] zgfg:
Fine. AFAIK, it was added

Nevertheless, I do have A13 and I don't have any problem with all three options enabled for Data Isolation
[Magisk] Aguys:
It's fine on A13.

My problem is on A14 (and KSU?), once vold data isolation is enabled, reboot, bam! almost all apps are stuck on the loading screen (even Settings and HMA itself). Root Explorer is immune to this issue and works normally.

Uninstalling HMA or LSPosed will not solve the problem. I ended up wiping my phone and fresh install the rom.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Yeah, fine on A13/Magisk, but guys insist on that warning

I actually don't care, I know that my settings are good successfully hide with no side effects😁
[Magisk] Aguys:
Well...

Unless someone with A14 is happy with apps being stuck, I agree there is no need for that warning.
[Magisk] fbirraque:
HMA + Magisk (kitsune) working flawlessly with EvolutionX (Android 14) for me.

None side effects too.
[Magisk] Aguys:
Did you enable Vold app data isolation?
[Magisk] fbirraque:
No
[Magisk] mGforCe:
Why don't you enable and share the results with all?
[Magisk] mGforCe:
I clearly said the warning is for A14. A13 worked fine for me too :)

So far, there is no one who has reported that post enabling "vold data isolation" things work fine.

Don't think warning has been added.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Maybe read better - screenshot

Btw, since the guide is on GitHub, please communicate directly on GitHub to the authors
[Magisk] AnnetkoO:
Hi all . Tell me what to do so that the application does not detect lsposed, su file, magisk file, and so on (see screenshots).
[Magisk] zgfg:
Make sure that you carefully read instructions on GitHub linked from the post #1

Your questions are answered there

Except maybe for deprecated XLua - but that was also answers around how to FULLY uninstall (manual actions required, described on XLUa GitHub FAQ)
[Magisk] AnnetkoO:
I read everything that was written on Git Hub. But that's the point. got confused in black and white lists. I understand that the author recommends using a blacklist. But I didn’t understand how to do it correctly. Thanks anyway.
[Magisk] NeriFP:
Hi, good day everybody.

I have a question, have read github but still I can't understand how to hide sposed, lucky patcher and Hide My App List apps.

Hope you can help me, please, I don't understand how to do it.
[Magisk] DougMG:
Friendly piece of advice do not mention LP as it is considered warez and is not permitted on XDA.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Hide HMA by use of HMA as you would hide any other app

It's all explained in the Github guide- really don't know what else or better can be said (hundredths understood and made it)

LSPosed - uninstall the app, use parasitic manager, if no described t in the guide (I think it is) then parasitic mngr is explained in the LSPosed GitHub Readme

Uninstall LP, no support here
[Magisk] sorg:
After creating blacklist template it doesn't show in list of templates when i try to add template to the app. It shows me an empty "choose template" window.

What should i do?

upd: fixed. It was whitelist template.
[Magisk] Jonas G. Morsch:
Using CrDroid 10 (A14) on Poco F1 and vold app data isolation freezed most of apps, I tested both on kernel Su and magisk, took me forever to pinpoint de cause, so yeah the harning would help someone in the same situation
[Magisk] ScottIsMyName:
This works great right now, I'm just wondering if there's an alternative to relying on LSPosed now that they have set their repo to read only. Should LSposed stop working in future versions of Android, this would no longer be a viable option. Thoughts?
[Magisk] mudinov:
Hello Guys