yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] rscreen:
Has anyone used this

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/16983.htm

HTC Touch Diamond Charging Car Cradle £20

I went for that one over a standard universal kit as it has a built in usb plug (and cig lighter lead to plug into kit) to charge it while driving. I thought that would be a lot better than having a lead to be plugged into phone once the device is in the cradle

I've just had a replacement shipped to me (i assumed the first was faulty/manufacturing fault), but my o2 XDA Ignito still doesnt fit in, the usb connector seems to not quite align up. Did o2 change the bottom of the phone?

Mobile fun accepted by first as a return and promptly shipped me out another.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] cityhunter71:
I don't have idea of your product, but i suggest to view if can make a 5 Volt with 1000 mAh for power !

In italy there is many Charger Car, but the power is limited to 500 mAh. If you see you Home Charger make that power !

Cityhunter71
[Magisk] ipdev:
Hide My Applist Guide​

Hide My Applist is a LSPosed module by Dr-TSNG (nullptr).

Often referred to as HMA.

In the simplest terms HMA aims to stop one app detecting a list of other installed apps.

- It can often help stop your banking app(s) from detecting if you have any of the apps it considers harmful.

- You can also hide installed app(s) from PlayStore.

This is normally helpful for those using modified versions of YouTube.

A quick guide to hopefully make it a little easier for people new to Hide My Applist.

Hide My Applist Guide - [ GitHub ] - Link

Note: This was a quick rewrite. I will update it later this week.😉​
[Magisk] ipdev:
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[Magisk] 0O00O0O00O:
Could you share what apps you hide, personally?

I got everything working, then Shamiko updated and now nothing works again, even after downgrading, it's weird.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Could you share what pills you take, personally?

I got everything working, then Momo woke me up and now nothing works again, even after hyperventilating, it's weird...

Your name it is heard in high places

You know the Aga Khan

He sent you a race horse for Christmas

And you keep it just for fun, for a laugh, ha-ha-ha

They say that when you get married

It'll be to a millionaire

But they don't realize where you came from

And I wonder if they really care, or give a damn
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Someone saw unhinged and decided to raise things, obviously...

Where do you go to my lovely?

Back up into your bell tower.....
[Magisk] zgfg:
Just to make sure (you recently posted in Delta thread) - you are not using Magisk Delta?

Bcs, with latest Delta (Zygisk enabled), you don't need Shamiko:

https://xdaforums.com/t/discussion-...third-party-magisk-fork.4460555/post-87726919

and you should actually not use Shamiko - see the screenshot (btw, I've seen several reports on the Delta TG Discussion channel about troubles with Shamiko)
[Magisk] 0O00O0O00O:
Thanks.

I had it on my phone, but disabled. I updated it for some reason like an idiot in my Magisk app manager and now it broke everything.

Just one Chinese banking app ICBC is like super crazy aggressive in detecting things. All other apps I can use fine. I just have given up as I think it's a phone issue, as the Snapdragon Note 10 that I use has a janky way to get root and magisk (installing magisk in the recovery itself) which leads to leaks at times.
[Magisk] huskydg:
Make sure you have Android 11+ to ensure apps can't detect sus apps
[Magisk] winner71:
Hide My Applist - Lsposed Not Activated 2.jpg

What should we thick in other than system framework?
[Magisk] ultimatepichu:
I can't thank you enough for this guide! Teams, Intune Company Portal, and other annoying banking apps can work properly now! Those were the apps that somehow detects root despite hiding with Zygisk + USNF (modded) and Shamiko.
[Magisk] 73sydney:
HMA is the only lposed module discussed here and doesnt require any settings other than shown

(i answered you in private too)
[Magisk] winner71:
So it's only system framework we should tick right? Thanks bro
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Yes, ive made it (more) abundantly clear via updating the text and screenshot in the guide

I'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasnt for you meddling kids...

<insert every Scooby Doo ending ever>

Also if you dont get that reference, youre part of The Problem and, consequently, dead to me :)

Signed,

Not a Bro, Bra, bruh or any other annoying faux title people use on Telegram or other services these days :)
[Magisk] Fishawy:
Mate? :D
[Magisk] 73sydney:
I'll allow it, as i am an Aussie
[Magisk] ultimatepichu:
Maybe I said it too quickly. For some reason these apps detected root again! But it's not problem that should be mentioned here.
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Well you can always try your luck, it would be rather hypocritical of me to just clamp down on offtopic posts, when im famous for them (leading to the odd mod interaction), in my own thread....

This is a safe space, and you'll know when it isnt

Just to prove it, heres some Guru Josh for no good reason

It also serves as a timestamp, 1990, as the last year anything useful, including most humans, was made :)
[Magisk] winner71:
Hahaha.....ok then thanks, mate

... 😆
[Magisk] asripath:
Queries

1. Disabled trackers and network access (wifi/mobile)... does it cause any issues?

2. Use island for work space and noisy apps which keep eating away at battery...

HMA can't seem to find them in App list...

Do I need to clone HMA into workspace and the similar hiding steps again?
[Magisk] pndwal:
Ah... Could an issue with biometrics, or root detection... Or other?...

I can't see where you've mentioned SafetyNet or Play Integrity deviceIntegrity verdicts passing... Have you checked Play Integrity API Checker results?... Please say these...

And please confirm that you have integrated SNF ("SafetyNet" Fix) solution in SparkOS ROM and that you've added Google Play Services processes com.google.android.gms and com.google.android.gms.unstable to denylist...

You can't; it's not released yet...

The solution I linked is a Magisk test fork building commits for Native Bridge Zygisk loading made so far... Started 2+ months ago but looks like it's nearing completion:

🙃 PW
[Magisk] pikbuu:
Yes, YASNAC passes all.

My modules enabled

- Universal safetynet fix 2.4.0 mod 1.2

- LPosed zygisk

Google play services also blocked in my denegation list.

BTW, I'm sorry if this off topic or I need to reply in other proper place.
[Magisk] immortalwon:
When is 27.0 coming out?
[Magisk] pndwal:
Please check only Google Play Services processes com.google.android.gms and com.google.android.gms.unstable are selected in denylist...

Please report Integrity API Checker results....

👍 PW
[Magisk] pndwal:
When it comes out! 🙃... We may get Canary 26xxx with NB Zygisk first too...

This is the progress (2+ months in):

🙂 PW
[Magisk] pikbuu:
Google services added to my deny list

API Checker fails with MEETS_STRONG_INTEGRITY
[Magisk] zgfg:
Please read elsewhere here on XDA that Strong Integrity cannot be spoofed (you will pass only with locked Bootloader and stock firmware)
[Magisk] pndwal:
... Guess you mean all sub processes + main process then...

For current bank purposes, deviceIntegrity pass is all that's needed. PW
[Magisk] MobAndro:
Hello,

I would like to know if I can install HMA with EdXposed 0.5.2.2, Riru 25.4.4 and Magisk 23 under Android 11 for a Samsung Galaxy phone please ?

HMA is compatible with EdXposed and this older Riru ?
[Magisk] pndwal:
EDXposed was not allowing SafetyNet to pass when userbase generally moves to LSXposed, so it's doubtful HMA would do you much good... It's also no longer maintained... Why not use Riru-LSPosed? 😜 PW
[Magisk] MobAndro:
Thank you for your answer :)

I was wondering if I would stay on Magisk 23, because after reading different posts for Magisk Official and Delta, Zygisk, Shamiko, LSPosed, Universal SafetyNet Fix by kdrag0n or Displax :unsure:

I tried to understand what is the best configuration :

- Magisk Official, Zygisk, Shamiko with Enforce Deny List, LSPosed, Universal SafetyNet Fix by kdrag0n or Displax

- Magisk Delta, Zygisk or Riru, LSPosed, Universal SafetyNet Fix by kdrag0n or Displax

- Magisk Delta Zygisk or Riru, what is the best ?

- Universal SafetyNet Fix by kdrag0n or Displax, what is the best ?

It works for some and not for others...

Should I wait for Magisk Official 27 or the new version of Magisk Delta ?

I'm a bit confused and lost, but I understand that everyone is looking for solutions that can work 😆

On the other hand, I like the root and I always want to have a rooted phone (y)
[Magisk] Lughnasadh:
Report your own post and ask for it to be deleted.
[Magisk] MobAndro:
Thank you :)
[Magisk] pndwal:
If you wanted 23.0 to keep Magiskhide w/ Riru solutions for passing device integrity API verdicts etc, there should be little point when we have 27.0 with new native bridge Zygisk loading... That's exactly what allowed Riru hooking and Riru module memory to be hidden properly and what has been lacking in Magisk till now....

Also, root hiding modules like Shamiko are already much more effective than was MagiskHide. Shamiko is already preemptively updated to hide native bridge Zygisk memory too. (Riru had built-in RiruHide, but don't expect similar in for Magisk hooking framework... Should be no problems with 3rd party hiding modules when Zygisk uses native bridge loading however.)

👀 PW
[Magisk] MobAndro:
Thank you for these informations.

For EdXposed who needs Riru, it was simpler so less configuration, that's why I asked about it.

As I'm trying to really hide the root on my phone so that the applications that refuse to download from the Play Store or that don't work don't disturb me :mad:

I have to switch to Magisk Official or Delta 🤐

In addition, I don't want to use Riru especially 😏

Even Riru developers advise to switch to Zygisk ; after I don't know if Riru is still good ?!
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Riru works fine for me in my configuration: Pixel 5, custom A11 ROM (crDroid), Magisk 23.0, LSPosed, TWRP 3.7.0_11-0

Of course, that is a Stone-Age-level system.

Going "forward" (ha-ha!) to later versions of Android and Magisk, things get increasingly complicated and confusing.

And I'm another person who has heard that Zygisk works more reliably than Riru in that crazy world.
[Magisk] pndwal:
@RikkaW is a main Magisk Dev, and much of her Riru hooking framework code is now replicated in Magisk so she has depreciated Riru... It was good while it lasted but won't likely be adapted further.

LSPosed is simple and allows for passing device integrity verdicts... There was no fix for this with EDXposed last time I looked.

Nb. Elderdriver and LSPosed Devs picked up the systemless XPosed baby (and have nurtured/perfected it to its current mainstream LSPosed iterations), but it's not really their's... John had already done pioneering work on this before even beginning the Magisk project.

Apps not appearing in Play Store indicates that you are probably not passing Play Integrity APIs (replacement for SafetyNet) deviceIntegrity verdict, or that you simply need to clear Google Play Store, Google Play Services or Google Play Protect (late systems) data... Once passing, many of the apps will start working also... Others may need further solutions bypass detections, like the imminent refactored Magisk with native bridge Zygisk loading... Hold tight...

🤠 PW
[Magisk] MobAndro:
Thank you for your answer HippoMan :)

I agree with you so much (y)

In 2022 when I switched to my new phone, this is where I realized that a lot of developers have given up on updating their apps and/or have left the Android world totally :eek:

Moreover Google and Samsung in particular were putting more and more restrictions :mad:

I was very desperate to see the Android world changed like that and especially concerning the root that I like a lot.

Today, I come back in 2023 to finally root this phone bought in 2022 but on the other hand, such configurations work for some and not for others concerning Magisk... :cautious:

What to become crazy somewhere... o_O

Many thanks again pndwal for all this understanding ☺️

Actually I was thinking if I would wait for Magisk 27 or the new version of Delta to really root my phone now, because I can't live with an unrooted phone 😃

The developers who continue to work for the customization of Android for everyone are really brave by these difficult times 😆
[Magisk] Primokorn:
I'm also stupid lol

The previous screen is the Template settings... Could you please explain?

EDIT: from App manage from the main screen...
[Magisk] Oswald Boelcke:
Just for information: Ownership of this thread has been transferred to @ipdev by @Timmmmaaahh!

Regards

Oswald Boelcke
[Magisk] m0han:
Not sure how the new owner is gonna take this.
[Magisk] Oswald Boelcke:
I've to admit I don't understand your input. Problem of my language skills or the language barrier?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Wasn't that just a humo(u)r - HMA - Hide My Applist or Heavy Metal Archive

Btw, all that group around the HMA are some old rockers folks
[Magisk] Oswald Boelcke:
Oki doki... So, I see me as a dumpnut German fighter pilot didn't catch that. Sorry...
[Magisk] Fishawy:
Hey, at least you're bilingual.

As long as this doesn't become 'byelingual', you'll be alright :D
[Magisk] kevinco1:
How are you a dumpnut if you're a fighter pilot? Not many would possess the skills for a job like that.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Please say that you are keeping the tradition of Oswald Boelcke PlM, flying ace, and that your 'air deliveries' are the same stuff! 🙏

Did he have descendants?... I wonder as he died age 25... Are you related?...

(I know the current and original OPs here will appreciate this kind of disambiguation!) 😜 PW
[Magisk] Oswald Boelcke:
Related neither by blood nor marriage to Oswald Boelcke. But I've to admit that there's a realtionship nevertheless. However, no details as it would reveal real life and personal details.
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Heavy Music (not Metal) Archive, according to the text on the image.

The Dead are pre-heavy-metal.

In any case, I'm glad to see that we're maintaining the previous owner's standards for on-topic/off-topic determination!

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[Magisk] ipdev:
Guide updated to include a page for hiding apps from an app store.

Cheers. :cowboy:

Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was "Oh no, not again."

- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy​
[Magisk] DaviidCou:
Anyone knows how to fix this?

These are the only fails I get on TB Checker

Edit: also, am I supposed to drop the magisk manager deny list, magisk hide, magisk hide props Config, safetynet sensitive props, universal safetynet fix (modded)?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Don't know what do you mean by dropping but you have to experiment and test with

And with App Data Isolation module, but don't ask me for the link, dev does not allow to be linked from XDA

For TWRP, remove TWRP folder or try with renaminf to eg TWRP.bak
[Magisk] DaviidCou:
Drop as in with hide my applist do I still need all that installed?
[Magisk] zgfg:
HMA hides only root apps. There are other types of detections and hidings
[Magisk] DaviidCou:
Alright thanks, I just checked and I can't find twrp folder.

I use lineage os with it's own recovery.

Is the twrp check specific or just a generic name for custom recoveries?

Edit: found it, I read it was on /data/media/ it was on storage, it only has a file ".twrps" is it safe to delete?
[Magisk] pndwal:
Yes... Residual directory anyway if you now have LOS recovery... PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
Btw, I had an interesting issue with HMA in Whitelist mode

Ruru and TB Checker reported detections of AOSP mode

Btw, AOSP mode install as a Magisk module (zip file) but appears also under the LSPosed modules

I need it to enable long press for Vol+ and Vol- to work for skipping the tracks while listening music with the locked screen

Hence I had to switch back from HMA Whitelist to Blacklist where I can add AOSP mode to the template. Now Ruru and TB Checker again pass everything successfully (commiting screenshots when the pass now)
[Magisk] uschipower:
Applistdetector detects XprivacyLua in abnormal environment.

Does anybody know how the app detects it?

By the way, HMA and Applistdetector are both from same developer.

Applistdetector detects things which HMA cannot/doesnt hide. I am a bit confused. What is the sense of that?
[Magisk] pndwal:
Detected easily by banks etc due to folder it creates in /data/system...

What's more, XprivacyLua is still detectable after uninstalling! That's because uninstall routine doesn't clean up properly...

If detected you'll need to remove data/system/xlua folder manually and check again...

To help you rectify bank detections of apps / directories?...

I'd forgotten Applist Detector sees it... I knew it's detected by Ruru detector (here):

https://github.com/byxiaorun/Ruru

... So XprivacyLua shows in Applist Detector even if Lua is properly hidden from Detector?

Nb. XprivacyLua is deprecated and likely dev never considered issues with detecting that directory... I believe there may no longer be much need for Lua these days anyway...

🤠 PW
[Magisk] uschipower:
that is why i am confused.

when a test tool shows the detection, each other app like banking apps can do the same.

at the moment, there is no solution to hide files and directories from certain apps, right?

why do you think so?

is there another app/module which does the same?

still android 13 has not the opportunities to block all things which XprivaxyLua blocks.

Android 11 and 12 is still supported by google, and there are much less blocking features.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Assuming that same hiding is applied to both bank and detector apps, eg detector is in deny/hide list and HMA hiding is enabled for it using same template(s) to hide other apps/modules... (The way to test hiding solutions is to apply them to detector apps and check if detection is bypassed or not.)

Apart from sandboxing I don't know of ways... Does seem apps have been abusing permissions to acquire applist and may be similarly misusing permissions to see directories (& files)... Google has tightened permission requirements to limit 'improper' use, eg for QUERY_ALL_PACKAGES w/ Android 11, but seems many loopholes still exist...

This was partly* why the dev discontinued the project. Eg. see points 1 & 3 here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/closed-app-...acy-manager-unsupported.3730663/post-87774927

*FWIW, other problems seemed to impact the Dev's interest in maintaining XPrivacyLua too:

- Lack of user appreciation (apparently even hate mail incl. death threats) for his various XDA supported projects, eg. per these comments:

https://xdaforums.com/t/closed-app-...vacy-oriented-email-app.3824168/post-87774875,

https://xdaforums.com/t/closed-app-...vacy-oriented-email-app.3824168/post-87885447

- Lack of support for needed LSPosed framework improvements, eg scope management:

https://xdaforums.com/t/closed-app-...acy-manager-unsupported.3730663/post-87775371

- Removal of XDA Xposed module support:

https://xdaforums.com/t/closed-app-...acy-manager-unsupported.3730663/post-87775601

There are likely solutions that do similar data spoofing for various use cases... You'd need to search...

🤠 PW
[Magisk] uschipower:
This could be very frustrating for users.

There are so much testing-tools, but so less tools to avoid detection.

Like in general life, a problem with no solution is frustrating.

It would be very helpfully if the testing-tools would link to a solution, or descripe the problem (f.ex. abnormal environment twrp --> it would be helpful to describe that the detection is based on looking for a folder at /sdcard named twrp.

So a normal user knows that he have to look for a solution how to hide this folder, or to rename it while using a certain app.

It's the same with LUA. It would be helpfully if the test-tool says how/where it has detected LUA.

Not saying how the detection works will not prevent App-Developers to use the same detection. They understand the sourcecode of test-tool, a normal user doesnt.

What do you recommend for sandboxing

This is another frustrating point.

Google released 13 versions of android and is still offering so much opportunities for developers/apps, but is blocking users at so many points.

13 versions and the whole android-system is still based on that a user has no rights on system by default - terrible.

I read now his postings, but they are confusing me too:

- it seems that he is someone who takes things too much to heart (-> disable comments, dont read negative comments, etc.)

- I do not understand why developers in general are using google's store. There are so many other stores available. Look here at xda. So many apps are in no store and are still successful.

- I also do not unterstand why developers use googles store licencing system to sell apps instead of keeping independent. In case of M66B, he has a own licencing system on his website so there is absolutely no need of using anything from google.

- he said "used for cheating in games". I do not understand why he take care of that. games are games, and not security tools, nothing for earning money.

But now back to HMA.

There are 3 (independent?) opportunities to select apps which HMA shall hide from other apps:

What is the difference?
[Magisk] beeshyams:
@pndwal absolutely agree with all arguments! I couldn't have framed better, if I tried real hard! 🙏

PS : refers to post above..
[Magisk] pndwal:
Happy someone noticed/read/appreciated/liked... Thanks! 🙃

FWIW, fixed some typos and signed it properly... 😜 PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
HMA v3.2 update
[Magisk] Evon88:
hi people, i only have this issues, idk how to fix them

also, my sim app, didnt work and i guess this is the issue

sim app log for forec stop: https://stagbin.tk/beivm3y

and i play codm, and get 4 bans each one is one month, any ideas?

edit: everything is fine now, i don't know what exactly was the problem with sim app and how it detect root, but here is my steps

i added sim app to denylist, zygisk

renamed twrp file to random name ( delete is fine also i guess

removed xlua from [data/system/xlua] thx for @pndwal to tell the path for that file

now my sim app working fine, i think codm will be fine too after the ban

also all hides by applist detector is ✓ now

thx 😘😘
[Magisk] letmedanz:
Installed the latest update, HMA opens fine, but the module is not enabled.

Is there any way to enable if Lsposed isn't working?

P7pro, A14, can't get Lsposed to work. Using the 1.8.6 version from Jan, and it just won't open. Clicking the Lsposed notification does nothing, and using the director keycode just opens the bug report dialog.
[Magisk] ipdev:
Looks like LSPosed is not updated for a14 yet.

There is a newer build on TG.

LSPosed-v1.8.6-6951-zygisk-release.zip

Another enhanced implementation of Xposed Framework.

Supports Android 8.1 ~ 13.

Requires Magisk 24.0+ and Zygisk enabled.​

I just double checked on a Pixel 7 (a14) and I lose the swipe up gesture when I enable LSPosed.

The LSPosed manager does not open for me either. 🙃

---

Without the Xposed (LSPosed) framework, HMA will not work.

We will have to wait until a14 gets closer to release before the LSPosed dev(s) update compatibility.

Then, hopefully, HMA (if need be) can be updated to work with a14 as well. 😉

Cheers. :cowboy:

Edit:

PS.

I use the LSPosed release version(s) from Github.

Only test the "updated" version(s) from TG.

"LSPosed-v1.8.6-6712-zygisk-release" (the Jan release) is what I have installed on my other devices.
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
No matter which Lsposed version you flash on A14, with no other modules installed, just lsposed canary, when you reboot phone and reach the home screen, mobile network will not connect and there will be a 30 second pause after which you will get a message "process system is not responding", you can pause or end the activity post which mobile data will connect and you can proceed using your phone. From what I have seen this does not have any impact on the functionality of the Lsposed modules you use (AOSPMods etc.). Not sure what triggers that message.