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[Touch Cruise Android Development] szsoftware:
Manual Screen Rotation

I wonder if it's possible to rotate the screen. Do we have a key combination for that? Is there an app available?

I would like to have landscape orientation as default.

Thanks for hints,

Cya
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Android ION with Hero themed skinned build

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list

mssmison's hero themed skinned build. With full audio/gps/camera and fresh modified launcher. Now Works On Fresh Data.img file

i have just downloaded this and trying now :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
INteresting. latest zImage and mission system image (or 1 of the 2) results in no data connection, that has not happend for a very long time.

tried to make a call and android just keeps force closing too.

Reboot fixed it all.. oh well, just fyi to look out for that.

There was something else I noticed today. I tried to use "IM" and windows live messenger, and it just tells me it can't read my number from the sim.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
new zImage for testing

Here's a new zImage and default.txt for testing. I've been working with Martin and we have gotten the vsync to work finally... I am now getting 17.5fps in neocore and 21ms/f in Sprite Text... everything else is now running faster as well!

Please provide some feedback so I can push to the repository if nothing is broken.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
Arrggghhh....updates are coming to fast .. c.a..n...t k...e....e....p... u...p w...i....t...h t...e....s....t....i....n....g.

Ok serious ... i'm downloading will test today.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
Quick question ... does your latest zImage include the latest changes from the vogue google code with the mic and speaker adjustments?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dzo:
The latest audio code is for Vogue only, shouldn't be too hard to get it working on polaris though.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
the default.txt you included gave me a white screen life02, anyone else have same problem?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
you might need to try a different screen type for the POLA200... maybe 2 or 3 instead of 1. This'll be easier when I've got one in-hand!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Referring to the "IM", i'm facing the same problem as well, not able to login to live messenge due to it can't read my number from sim.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] radem205:
Very nice life02 and Dzo !! It's working great! Everything is much smoother and faster! What a difference!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
"KAIS100 - my desk / about 50 pieces, dead"

mmm... maybe you were the wrong person to send a polaris to.. lol :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pt-1:
I needed 3 on my 200

Only thing I noticed is that the APN details in the default were not read (i have Vodafone uk and need, internet,web,web with Radio 1.59) and I had to manually add them in th APN Settings

PT-1
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
You can send the device to @dzo XD.

How do i know the good screen, i must test 1 , 2 ,3 ? or is there any information on the back of the phone ?serial number ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
New zImage (and hero system) seems like overall speed is better, it feels smoother. I also find the looks of the hero themed system amazing! It looks awesome. Neocore gives me 16.5 FPS in neocore. Not much of a difference there. I have a POLA100 and panel set to 1, this i correct right?

I was hoping that also maybe the "short 1/5th screen hang problem" with 336x448 resolution would've been gone, but i think it's still there only in another form as screen animation in hero isn't from right to left but with zoom.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
I fixed that problem (in ION version) by turning off animation.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
zImage-Default_txt-23-07-09-TESTING

wow~~ its amazing!!! i've just got 17.3fps with using latest release of zImage and default.txt by life02!!! my resolution is 333X444.

i'm replacing the latest nkhero themed system.img which is released hours ago that is multilingual and included google maps 3.1.2, and everything just working fine except the functions like camera, BT, WiFi, voice recording....

the developement move is getting faster these days...i believe we will have greater move when vilord get the polaris :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Does this Hero release have that fancy user interface (HTC Sense) as Hero does?

http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/product-tour.html

or what is the difference compared to ION?

And is it in included in bundle or do I have to install new bundle and then new hero like system.img?

Can't try right now so I'm asking.

thank you.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Just a thought, but would turning off Background syncing affect the device being recognised for adb?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
@kulen i the HTC Sense interface make my G1 very slow for the moment

I prefere having ION build

And ION build are the fastest build on G1.

Do you think it will be possible to use etx3/SWap partition to accelerate Polaris android too ?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
basically it is still ION version, just that the skin is Hero based.....

download this file system-nkhero-2009-07-23.img and rename it to system.img, replace it with the one in your sdcard... you don't have to start with fresh android... just replace system.img, and your previous settings and programs will still remain...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
nkhero image just keeps force closing on me. Tried installing it twice. Will download it again and give it another shot.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Ok it works when i remove my data img and start from scratch.

What do you guys think of it? I like that the clock is smaller, but i hate that blue time rectangle at the top

p.s. this test zimage is awesome. Moving icons around on home screen is crazy fast.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Ya,I don't like the blue rectangle around the time display too. The graphic is really working smoothly now,I like the feel of scrolling in the browser now.

I'm gonna try to run android in 334x432 and see how.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Thank you, i'll give it a try.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
ok no more nkhero for me lol.. fresh new install on sd card, card wiped, etc. way too many force closes on simple things like wireless settings like mobile networks etc and just google account set up i was skipping through things and it all of a sudden tels me google maps has stopped force close etc.. lol.. yikes. back to first hero themed one!

Anyone notice with the missionmsystem hero the clock on the home screen is a good small size, but when you remove it and add it to antoher screen via widget interface, it turns into a massive clock? Nuts. Shoulda left th original one alone!

nkhero seems faster, when it is working for me, then mission hero one.. though not as stable.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Just did this. and it is stuck at that console before it boots. it's like that for about 10 min now. think I'll have to softreset it.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] radem205:
It's not a very good system.img. You could better try this: http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/mssmisonsystem.img

This one is very clean and beautiful!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
;)

The kaiser is on loan from a coworker... his son had left it in a pants pocket, stepped on it, and put it through the clothes washer. I was hoping to resurrect at least part of it, but no luck so far, the mainboard has a lot of corrosion, and the screen is cracked and has water intrusion.

What is meant by "It's not a very good system.img"?

Regarding the force closes it is only with a fresh data.img, i'm going to have to investigate what nk02 did, he put in something he called "auto apn", but it doesn't work at all... I had to start with a fresh data.img with the regular system, then switch to nk02.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] radem205:
When do you think the polaris arrives at your home?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
the sooner the better, i say...

here's the latest from the US post:

Inbound International Arrival, July 19, 2009, 9:12 pm, ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)

It should only be a two day journey from NY, NY to here, and since it didn't show yesterday I'm hoping to see it today.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
17.1 fps with life02 test zimage/defualt txt and mission system.img. THink I'll try putting the nkhero one back on. edit: 17.9 with nkhero. Obviously different every time, but that's the highest i have ever had it.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
what do you use to perform this test? where can I get it?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Neocore app you can get it from Market.

Is everyone using the zimage posted by life02's last zimage posted here or the zimage in the google code tree.. and are we ok to use those as the changes made have now been commited?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
All his stuff gets pushed to the releases on that site, except the one he just posted with the vsync or whatever changes today.. i think that's just on here for now for testing.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
I just installed everything new. first the whole bundle. than replaced system.img with mssmison. and default and zimage with life02's latest from this thread.

And everything is working.

I can't download it from market because I don't have data plan, and wifi is still not working :-(
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
My changes were commited the other day so the kernel there is fine for y'all to use. I wanted y'all to test my new zImage on here before I commited the new 3d changes.

*you beat me to it briggs
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I havent put a fresh image on (too much like hard work at the mo) but I'm getting a respectable 16.5 fps on neocore. Still a bit glitchy with the graphics though, a bit jumpy.

New Music app crashes out the old one still works.

I tried to use ES file explorer to install an app from my sdcard and it rebooted Android.. tried it again and it did the same again.. so inadvertently I've found a way to reboot Android - it would be nice to be able to do that without rebooting the entire device back to WinMo. The only issue I see with this rebooting trick is that you sometimes lose phone signal and it wont come back until you do a proper reboot. :rolleyes:

Any chance of being able to build rebooting Android into the system? a shortcut perhaps? i think its possible via terminal ..but I'm not sure.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
I noticed I don't have problem with time any more.

I'm not sure is that because I set Android to take time from network operater but it shows right time now. ( think it was ok even when I started Android from this new files for the first time but I'm not sure).

Anyhow, this isn't actually a bug because Android was not built to be ran on same system as Windows mobile, but it was a bit annoying.

And I'm glad that we have ways to bypass it. All that was suggested here till now and maybe even it works ok from now on without any actions. :-)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
Looks like panel 1 for pola100 and panel 3 for pola200
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Anyone know what "with new APNs" means for this newly fixed nkhero system image?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
I have no idea. now downloding to find out....
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
with new APNs just means I included the APN list from haykuro. You won't see anything different unless you start from a new data.img, then you'll see entries for some of the major carriers in Europe and North America.

The two nk images are identical except one has the hero-ish theme and the other doesn't.

If anyone wants to fix the clock to get rid of the ugly blue background, please do so! I have other things to do besides system themeing
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I finally gave in and started on a new data.img as I was getting too many forced close errors, the system is indeed faster and smoother, but now I am unable to connect to google and market. I can browse the internet so I know data is working.

This is with both msmissions's image and the nkhero one.

Any ideas?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
who deleted my previous post??? :confused:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Mormy:
Which one??

I try pannel 3 but I obtained a white screen (I waited 20min). Maybe I wrote bad changes. With my previous STARTUP it boots up without problems.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
@bally3 Sometimes on G1 we must type chmod 755 to some folder to have market working. Maybe it's a permission error with this build.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Thanks flo, I went back to my previous data.img and market works fine so maybe you're right. looks like msmission's pulled his hero image so unless its fixed in the nkhero build I'm stuck with what I've got for the time being.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
hmm.. phone has been on for about 1 .5 hours and lost 20% battery already.. just been downloading a few things.. that's a little odd :O. Can't remember if that's normal though! lol
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Not having any luck I may have to go back to an older build and try again - I'm having major issues with data connections and market.

Does anyone know whether theres any way of being able to measure data connection speed in Android? I'm not convinced that I'm getting HSDPA speeds at all, it seems very slow in browser mode compared to WinMo and Opera (probably same speed as IE, which leads me to wonder whether its the browser?)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] T1663R:
Hey,

firstly thanks to all devs for the extrem great work so far, im watching the development for a long time now.

Please dont misunderstand me but i want to say something about the development running atm. Shouldnt all the devs take care of the importent things first ?

I mean power management und keymapping is all fine you know, but the most importent things are :

Calls/Audio

GPS

WLan

Camera

and so on

I think if the above 4 things would run smoothly than android could be used - even if the keys arent mapped perfectly and the power only allows use for 1-2 days.

But switching to Winmo every time to use the camera or Wlan ? no thanks

I would have no problem donating 100$ for a android version for the polaris which has full support for these things. However android has no use for me(and i belive a lot more ppl than just me) if nothing works really except GPS and Calls no matter how good all keys are mapped and how great the power works.

What im trying to say is that in my opinion the best thing would be for all devs to Focus on the needed core stuff first.

and now you can all blame me for saying my opinion ^^

anyways have a nice day ;-)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
I am pretty sure they know what they are doing and have their own lists of priorities, so I don't think we need to worry about that.

The stuff you are talking about is always on the list.

To counter you, all i use is Android, even in this state. So some of us are fine with this current state, considering a few weeks ago we thought we wold never get this far. We are lucky that vilelord and life02 all of a sudden just jumped on this and started helping out.

Let's not turn this into another Vogue thread where the end result is that someone drops out of the Android project completely because they are getting overwhelmed, and people are making comments suggesting what they are doing is not good enough. I for one have no problem with these developers spending their free time making something work for us, no matter how much time it takes and no matter how much works/doesn't.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
bally3, usually when the data connection works for browser but not google apps it is the APN is not configured or selected as the "active APN"... is it possible that is the issue?

T1663R and other naysayers: Sorry its not good enough for you, but honestly complaining that what we decide to work on isn't what you think is a priority won't help or fix anything.

Wlan is a priority, but it is very difficult to get it to work, between polaris and kaiser i'm pretty sure about 20 different people have tried and failed.

Camera more a priority than battery life or key mapping? I don't think so. The camera isn't that good even when it works, and if the battery only lasts two hours, it doesn't matter if the camera works, cause the phone will be dead. And a working camera but non-working keymapping would be you wouldn't be able to *get* to the camera, so again, pointless.

On the same token, I've said my piece and I'd rather not hear any more about this, positive or negative... we had enough of that in the vogue thread yesterday.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Thank Jesse, I've only got one APN set but I'll check the settings again, its wierd that my old ata.img works fine, the one pre-msmissons system image and it works fine with that image data-wise, I jst get too many forced closes with it.

I take it the Polaris aint arrived.. sigh .. I can well understand the frustration.. I bet you itching to get hold of it :p
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Amen to that.

I have a simple rule in my house that I adhere to and I think where development is concerned is a good rule for us all to adhere to.

I dont cook, I cant cook.

I therefore eat what my wife cooks for me and only tell her what I'd like to eat if she asks me. I dont tell her how to make it or how it could be made better unless she asks for my opinion, as I assume she will know what is wrong with it when she tastes it and I ONLY tell her whats wrong with it if she asks me to taste it and tell her whats wrong with it.

I NEVER criticise her cooking, I dont ask or tell her what I think she should be cooking. I am appreciative and very complementary of the food she cooks as I know very well my wife is a VERY good cook.

My logic is that since I dont know how to cook I should be grateful that I get cooked meals at all and if I did have issues with this, I should take the time to learn to cook myself.

This easy-to-digest rule has meant that although I mostly eat what my wife cooks for me, I eat very well - and quite importantly, eat more of the things my wife knows I like to eat because it pleases her to see me enjoy the meals she cooks for me.

Which means I look forward to my meals more and my wife is more willing to try out new dishes on me.. which reminds me.. supper time! ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
If you don't like how it runs, then go back to winmo. Right now I am the only one working on the Polaris (until vilord gets his new phone) and I only have so much free time. Btw keymaps and battery life is way more important than the crappy cam.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] T1663R:
well maybe i saíd it wrong, im truly grateful of what you all do here in your free time for this. I just had the feeling that you not worked on the things that were important (at least important for me since i need wlan to access the market - damn am i selfish ^^ ). However you are right camera istn that usefull and i can imagine that getting wlan to work is hard as hell. I got a few Java Programming skills however all of this here is far beyond my level and its amazing what you all do for this projekt...

I guess i just have to wait and pray that you guys get Wlan to work.

well so sorry for complaining. ^^
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
Stupid forum. took an hour to post...

you bet i am!

I wanna get some of the GSM issues out of the way right off... maybe it'll be in todays post
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Damn..if Id known it was going to take this long, i would have brought it you myself.. it would have been a good excuse to get back to those scrumptious buffets I still dream of...

Mmmm... eat all you want Vegas buffets.. <aaaaarrrrrrr!> ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I just tried the Pacman game I used to play on the 1.1 builds which worked great before, On this build it seems to start flashing the screen as soon as the game comes on.

I'm using 324x432 resolution with no lcd density - dont know whether thats whats causing it.

I'll try other resolutions.. just wish their was a way of rebooting android with different resolutions without having to boot into windows - cant be good for the device all these reboots! :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pananza:
I totally agree with you life02. Cam, Wifi etc. are nice to have feature, but not important at all. Without sufficient power you would not be able to enjoy those features anyway. The cam i never use, and WiFi only rarely. But I guess everyone have their own priorities.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] fets:
yes and I agree with you by saying without sufficient power, so far won't be gone...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Ok.. we've all had our little say on the matter, before it snowballs into ugly, can we get off the subject please?

I've been messing with resolutions and just for kicks I tried 240x320 with 128 lcd density (hey I'm outside tesco's waiting for my missus to finish shopping, what you want me to to do to kill time? :rolleyes:)

Anyhoo, I noticed that though it obviously wasnt the right resolution, the device felt snappier, so I tried neocore and got 17.7fps - which is the highest I've had yet (I had 17.1fps on the fresh install with the normal resolution).

I'm going to try the next one up and see what it looks like..
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
hmm.. found something interesting.. has anyone checked the resolution in neocore?

Its reporting a different resolution, for example: at 336x448 (no density) it reports: 336x388 in "Options"?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
what is the native resolution? I thought it was 240x320, thats what it is on the vogue...

did pacman run right at 240x320?

I'm gonna jump in the shower then go pick up the phone, its at the post office! Yay!!!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
nope, stil blinks like mad at 240x320 as well.

yyaaay! happy days! :D
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Mine is showing the resolution i have in the default.txt file.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
We havent had any of the sound improvements made have we?

I was wondering why the media sounds so grainy at the top level. Hope vilord can fix that one soon, should be easier with the files and stuff being there.

Let us know you've got it when you get home Jesse, I hope its in good condition and all, then I can sublimely start whispering <wifi.. wifi.. wifi.. > to you.. not that I'm sneaky and all that.. and before everyone jumps on me.. I'm kidding ;)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] 188236:
Cant log into the Google account

I have Android 1.5 on my HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris).

When I go to "Dev Tools" -> "Google Login Service" the application crashes. ("Sorry! The application Dev Tools (process com.android.development) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.")

And every time when I try to log into my google account (gmail, contacts, etc.) android starts “Signing in…” an tells me “You don’t have a network connection”. (But I have one, e.g. the browser works!!!)

Any ideas?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
This seems to be an issue for some on this build, which model of Polaris do you have, POLA100 or POLA200? (look under your battery compartment).
[Touch Cruise Android Development] w04g005:
with the latest files i'm not able to download from appstore, there is no connection in google maps....
[Touch Cruise Android Development] 188236:
I have a Pola100.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
Check you apn first in settings since that has changed... then do a modem connect, disconnect and then connect