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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jcmm:
Hello,

I tried twice to make a donation of 10$ by PayPal, but I have rejected both times. Sorry, but I notice that I can not make a donation access ... I'll try one or two days later.

Regards,
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ericsonicsson:
Yes, exactly!

Without this rule in the previous version it was hard to see lock slider when you turn phone on at sunlight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ckqcfh8895:
thank you for the APP..
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] tuvix777:
Thank nik3r! a brillant piece of software :), have a muffin! :D

I have been looking around for software that can change timers for backlight and device off as profiles, this is the only program i have found that can set no sleep to specific programs.

Working on HTC Touchpro T7272, stock WM6.1 rom with 3 Network, ROM 1.90.861.8WWE, Radio 1.08.25.20
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
I just discovered Lumos. Thank you. I have a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 running Win Mobile 6.5.

My biggest need is the exceptions! I have an application that needs the screen to remain on and not turn off after 60 seconds of not touching the screen. I didn't know how to do that. Lumos does it!

My first question is - are there instructions on what the options in Settings and other places mean? I am winding up doing searches through this thread to try and understand things. For example in the Exceptions tab I did not know what PRG/CLS meant. I found it doing a search and now I know. But while I was playing on my phone before I got back to the computer I was perplexed. Thanks.

Second. The tab for Exc. for active windows only. I don't understand it. It is not checked by default. If I check it It gives me a message that it'll be bad for battery. When I check it then it only keeps the screen active if that application is in the main screen (not minimized). If it is minimized then the screen turns off after 60 seconds. Wouldn't that be BETTER for the battery? When I uncheck it then the screen remains on even if that screen in minimized. Isn't that worse for the battery? In searching this thread I think maybe the answer is that lumos uses more cpu cycles to maintain that option. I suppose that means that more cpu cycles is harder on the battery than allowing it to remain on. Is that right?

Thanks.

Eli
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
PRG/CLS - well you only need to switch to CLS if you know what you're doing.. it's for class names instead of window names.

Exc. for active windows only - means exactly that, you sacrifice about 0.05% CPU power per poll (alright, that's not going to drain your battery much if at all) and you get the exception effect only if the app is active. If it's unchecked you should get the effect whenever the app is on, even in background. BUT this is really just for pre 6.5 users, I have a feeling only one of the modes actually worked in early 6.5 builds. Might be different now, just take that as an alternative mode that uses wee more CPU but gives you an extra feature.

And you are right it will save your battery if you run exceptioned apps in background.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
Thanks so much for your (very quick) reply. When I had it checked and Lumos started up after a reset, it popped up that message about being bad for power. I removed the check anyway because it's rare that I would have that program running in the background (minimized) so I won't need to save battery power that way and would lose power for a feature that I don't need.

Where can I find documentation? I don't know what Backlight change 2500 (ms) - set to 1250 means.

I don't know what to do about Tolerance threshhold.

BL = min below (lumens)?

HW keyboard dim timeout?

What is the MODE tab about?

Also I only have options for PRG/CLS (not CLP). But you're right, I don't think I need the class option.

What does Relative mean in the exception tab?

Thanks.

Eli
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
You're right, someone should write the documentation... someone.. :D

For now this will have to do:

Backlight change 2500 (ms) - set to 1250 means

Lumos checks for backlight every poll but doesn't usually change the backlight on every single poll to save CPU cycles.

Basically you are looking for light every 1250ms (looking at sensor is quite cheap if it's not polled extremely often) and you use a multiplier of 2x for backlight change 1250*2=2500ms (actually performing the BL change is most CPU costly thing Lumos does, about 3,5% peak).

BL = min below (lumens) dims the display to absolute minimum regardless of other settings once sensor is below the value.

HW keyboard dim timeout - obviously keyboard backlight duration when you slide open/type.

CLP was removed in last version, it had no practical use.

MODE tab specifies how backlight behaves in relation to sensor values, there are 3 presets or you can mix your own flavor. The default is best for most users.

Relative exception (and this IS explained in the FAQ I believe) means amplification/attenuation of the automatic backlight for some app rather than one fixed level. Retais auto-levelling but increases or decreases the result by some amount when your app is running. Basically gets you better readability for some apps and still saves battery compared to static level. Or it can be used to decrease backligh by an amount for some apps.. can't think of an usage scenario but I'm sure there is one ;)

I tried to explain the stuff that is not self-explanatory in the FAQ (second post here) take a look.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
Oh. Thank you so much for the touble to explain those fields. I appreciate your help. I now do have a much better understanding.

I was outside today in bright sunlight. I had a lot of difficulty reading my screen.

I did not know if it was because I was running your program and its settings or that I never noticed the problem before. Easy way to find out. First I re-ran the calibration wizard. But the numbers stayed the same as when I set it up in my house using a light bulb and other instuctions. So then I turned off Lumos. I had the same issues. So now I will try to figure out how Lumos can help me in that situation. Thank you for your work and this software and for your help and support.

Eli
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] cd993:
Hi, is there any way this could be ported to an Android Desire HD? Used to love using this app back in Windows Mobile!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] R^7Z:
I thought the dev was heading in this direction but for the life of me, I can't find the post that states this :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Of course I am considering this (if at all possible) but I am quite busy in RL at the moment. If you want some auto-backlight goodness on your android right now, you can always use Cyanogen's ROMs (or similar like Villan ROMs), they have the feature to setup custom response table for backlight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
Hi. I have a question about EXCEPTIONS. I have a certain program that when it's running I do not want the screen to black out or even dim. I ran the Lumos wizard and went to WINDOWS. I then started my program. I left it running and went back to Lumos Wizard - into WINDOWS. I saw the program in the list and clicked on it. That took me to the EXCEPTIONS list. I left it on PRG. I clicked ok NO SLEEP. Then I clicked on th + and it added it to the list. I clicked SAVE+APPLY.

Then I started my program and left it alone. When it started it brightened the screen. After 30 seconds it dimmed way down. After another 30 seconds the screen went black. Why did it dim and why did the screen go black? I'm pretty sure this had worked in the past and it did keep the screen from going black (though it dimmed then too)? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reaper356:
great work, thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Reidler try to toggle the exception on active only in settings. It might just help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
Thank you for your reply. I had deleted and rebuilt the exception and that seems to have made it work again - that the screen did not go black. But I don't understand the dimming. I set it to number 10 in the exception list. When I start the program it starts at a certain brightness level and then after 1-2 seconds the brightness increases a lot. Then 30 seconds later it dims a lot. (It did not go black though). So how come it dims? How can I make it not dim? Or at least not dim so much. I tried the ACTIVE switch as you suggested. That had no affect on dimming.

Thanks so much for your program and for your help.

Eli
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
I have no way to test it now but try this:

- make sure you are not plugged in with Lumos on AC power disengaged

- set a bit longer period for dimming in windows power options or disable dim altogether

It may just be a device/ROM specific bug OR it may be how it was designed to be. No sleep means no sleep, not no dim, right? :D

Anyway if anyone can confirm this behaviour on another device/ROM I could look into it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
I checked and my power settings are:

When not plugged in:

Dim screen after 30 seconds

Turn of device after 1 minute

When plugged in:

Dim screen after 1 minute

Turn off device after 2 minutes

Automatically adjust backlight is not checked

The backlight is set at 30%.

I will play with the dim setting. Maybe I'll make it 1 minute to match the turn off device setting. My guess is it will dim after 1 minute and not turn off. I could maybe uncheck the dimming feature. But I do like that power saving dimming on everything in the phone except for a few programs like this one that I added to the exceptions list. Other programs like Sprint Navigator, Google maps, Bing, turn off the dimming and turn-off-device feature while running that program. What ways are there to do the same for other chosen programs?

Thanks again very much.

Eli
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] brucegil:
Dimming Control Does Not Seem to Work

I have a similar problem to the one above. I am running the stock ROM 2.13.531.1 on Windows Mobile 6.5 on my HTC HD2. I have the normal Sense running. In battery mode, I havethe backlight settings set to dim to 30% after one minute. However, I wanted LUMOS to keep a specific program running at the brighter mode and not dim. I was able to select the program. I checked the No Sleep box. I set the backlight level to remain at my normal max (8). I tried both checking and not checking the Relative box. However, in every case, the screen dimmed to my minimum level after one minute when I had the specific program running. Lumos did not keep the screen at the higher level. The Automatically Adjust Backlight setting is unchecked.

EDIT: I saw in the FAQ this note: "Note that you will probably need to enable "Exc. for active window only" on settings tab for exceptions to work on WM6.5." So, I tried that. No luck. The program I had set in the exceptions still dimmed to the minimum level after 1 minute. So, I when into Settings and unchecked the Dim setting while on battery. Of course, all programs stayed brighter past the 1 minute limit.

I installed this program for this specific need. What seems to be the problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] bk-killer:
It is very good rom with no problems with helpful app i like this room
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] jb789:
Obvious question, but is the exception listed on the "Exceptions" tab? I've found it's easy for folks to forget to tap the "+" to add the exception they've just configured.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] reidler:
Look at post # 720 where nik3r seems to say that Lumos is just setting it to not sleep. Not dimming is not part of it. But maybe that should be part of it.?

Eli
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
I suppose it should not dim, I still need to get my hands on the actual device to fix this. No luck so far.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] brucegil:
Yes, I had clicked the + to make sure it was in the Exceptions list, and had verified that it was indeed on the list. (But it took me a couple of tries. In the software system I helped develop, clicking on Save and Apply actually saved the changes made. LUMOS required an extra step to add it to the list and then save.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] brucegil:
If I understand the concept of your program, a program on the Exceptions list will not dim, or dim to the set level if less than the maximum, while other programs will dim after the preset time in the normal backlight settings (1 minute in my case). Optionally, the exception can be set to not sleep (10 minutes in my case on battery power). It's certainly a feature I could use. The program is PocketBible from Laridian software. I have it on but not always working with the screen, so it dims after 1 minute.

Of course, I could set the battery timeout to a longer period of time. I already have the battery brightness set to 40%. But I'm looking for ways to save on battery consumption.

By the way, following one of the comments in your FAQ, I checked the "Exc. for actice windows only." Now, when I go into Lumos, I get a warning message that the option may have a negative affect on battery life. Since checking the box did not seem to help, I have unchecked it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mikamehi:
Is there any chance of running Lumos on Xperia X1?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] sebastiaana8@hotmail.com:
First of all: GREAAAT app,

I used it on my Touch Pro (and enjoyed it) so i thought (naturally) to use it on my HD2.

I, at some point, noticed that some apps were having trouble using the g sensor: SPB mobile shell (3d caroussell), hdwobble and the standard calibration tool under settings. they were all showing significant lag in using the g sensor.

I have been searching for installed software which might be the problem (came across resco photomanager (but don't use it)) until i got really fed up tonight.

I have been uninstalling a bunch of apps and after each uninstall check the cal. tool to verify. This way i found lumos was the problem, so I checked the site for updates (was using RC2) and tried the final just now, darn, same problem.

Without lumos the g sensor works perfect, with it it lags pretty bad.

I hope this info will help you make your awesome app even more awesome !!

Greets Sebastiaan.

(If you have questions/remarks you might want to email me, i don't check in to often :) sebastiaana8 AT hotmail DOT com)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Read FAQ please:

There is curently no workaround - it's a bug in HTC drivers (reading one sensor blocks all the others, pretty lousy programming if you ask me)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] sebastiaana8@hotmail.com:
I read the faq and missed that part, thanx
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ghtfuo:
it not work on Imagio XV6975.....

Can you help us?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ghtfuo:
have no effect on xv6975
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Try to follow the troubleshooting guide in first post, can't do much more without having the device at hand.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ghtfuo:
o...but

also thx
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ghtfuo:
I have some files from the backlight drivers on VX6975

do not know if it can help you

the default drivers is too bright...

and the reg file
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] __:
little issue with relative Per-application exceptions

Good afternoon nik3r,

im using your app for quite a while now and it does its job very good.

But ...

There is one little issue for me.

In exceptions I have added an app and checked relative.

But when I start the app Lumos still is working. And the app is stuttering.

I thougt when relative is activated, Lumos would take the last value it was using short before I started the app (I added in exceptions).

It would be very nice, if you could fix this issue.

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
No no, relative means it's still in your regular mode but you get to amplify (or negate) the backlight by some amount. It's still polling the sensor and everything. It basically shifts your backlight graph to the left or right for that application.

You need to set up a non-relative backlight to work around the G-sensor problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] __:
Good afternoon nik3r.

Thank you for your quick answer.

Could you please tell me more detailed what you mean with:

Would it be possible to implement a third option like I described in my previous post?

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] open:
Hi guys,

I use it on Touch Pro with WM 6.5. The only problem is when I use power button to screen off then my TP waits about 1-3 seconds to do that.

Is it normal? How can I change it to screen off imediatelly?

Thanks.

edit: Done ;)

When Lumos Wizard stays in running processes then do that. Just killed this process and Lumos works fine! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] antyhero:
Can this program bind on the button(FastKeys) - BackLight Level, for quickly change BackLight ??

I`m have smartphone (HTC Ozone) and need regular change backlight Day/Night. Standard procedure - trought System Menu is long and too hard.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
I am sure there are other apps that do this. Lumos is supposed to be fire and forget.

Since I'm writing here anyway, I am looking for volunteers who would want to help with Lumos for Android. PM me with your device and usual ROM preference (stock/aosp/miui branch + android version) if you are interested.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Lumos for Android is now available at Google Play Store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.eliteforce.lumos
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Lumos XDA thread

If you like my work, please support me by supporting Lumos and spread the word ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2112196

It is also a place for people without G+ account to comment and rate.

Thank you! :)

~ NIKER

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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you Niker! The wizard is great and it works without any problems. Also I like the changed start/stop functionality (and removal of nox) very much.

I didn't find any bug so far but I will continue testing when I go to bed. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] willybilly:
Thank you Niker. Excellent application and very kind of you to share it out to all of us.

DeepThought, I also used my TP in the dark. Care to share with us your settings?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
I have to say that v07 is packed and ready, but you know, 7 is a magical number it has to be kinda special :p

I will go to bed now and in case nobody report any issues with v06, I will upload it tomorrow after lunch.

I fixed some minor flaws, made an icon and a .cab installer with auto-start for this version.

Definitely something to look forward to.. I should know I am already enjoying it on my raphael :D

Just one question for the crowd, would you like to have one icon in programs (only the Wizard which can disable Lumos if you just open and close).

Or two icons (one for on/off and second for Wizard). Downside to the 2 icons approach is, that the service will use a few more KBs in memory (it doesn't need to have any icon image right now, so it's smaller). And it doesn't do anything that Wizard can't do as well.

I vote for the 1 icon approach by the way, every byte of memory counts :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] coolguy949:
wow, two version releases since this morning. I was about to post that I had to remove Lumos because I got significantly less battery life today. I looked in my task manager and lumos was constantly using 2 - 3% CPU on my touch pro. I'm going to try this new version and see if it's better.

Great work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
2-3% is not possible, it must be your custom configuration file. Just remove the config.txt, soft reset and start LumosWizard again.

By using default settings, the CPU usage of Lumos is 0.05-0.25 (and about 3% max when it just changes backlight, because that is most demanding calculation. That doesn't happen often but if it does you can always try to enable tolerance)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Zenox:
Thanks for creating such a great application and making it available to us! On the contrary to Coolguy949's findings I'm very happy to say that battery life on my TP has increased significantly (have been using Glight or the stock HTC program until Lumos saw the light :D ).

I did notice the backlight was not automatically adjusted when on AC. Does the sensor also have to be calibrated for AC use?

I vote for the 1 icon approach.

Thanks again and keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Nope it's the same, start LumosWizard, go to settings tab and make sure you have Use on AC power option ticked and apply ;) Works perfectly well here on both AC and battery.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Yes, of course. Here are my Lumos v06g settings (comments stripped):

USE_ON_AC_POWER = 1
MIN_BL_LUMENS = 0
MAX_BL_LUMENS = 751
MIN_BACKLIGHT = 4
MAX_BACKLIGHT = 9
POLLING_INTERVAL = 1250
EXTRA_POLLS_BEFORE_SET = 1
BACKLIGHT_TOLERANCE = 1
DIM_TO_MINIMUM_BELOW = 1
DIM_TO_MINIMUM_PLUS_ONE_BELOW = 8

+1, me too! ;)

PS: Since it's already 1130 in Czech Republic and v7 hasn't been released yet I suppose you are a late riser?! :p:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Your presumption is correct, but I was out for lunch today ;)

Let me fix some minor problems in the Wizard, it won't take much longer.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
Lumos v07

Lumos v07 (the magical version) has been released.

Features:

- simple and clean installation and uninstalation

- low CPU usage, 0.05-0.2% on polling, 2.9% spike on backlight change

- low memory usage considering all the options, 459.53KB in v07

- very low battery drainage overhead (may depend on your configuration, especially maximum backlight and polling)

- you don't lose configuration and calibration data between versions (v07 and better)

- simple and reliable configuration GUI with calibration process

- many options that let you change every aspect of how your backlight works

- program exceptions to sed different backlight for any application

- configuration failsafe. No matter what you do, Lumos won't crash, just tell you what is wrong and use defaults

Enjoy :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
It's working great, thank you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] willybilly:
Thanks a bunch.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] willybilly:
Thank you.

Installed a couple of minutes ago and work like I wanted to in total darkness.

Great application!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] nik3r:
I'd like to implement more backlight equations as a choice to the Wizard, anyone skilled in math around? :rolleyes:

Basically I was thinking about logaritmic and quadratic backlight mode as an addition to my linear. That means one mode decreases the sensor sensitivity when more light is detected, and the second would decrease sensitivity on low light (kinda what's now possible with DIM_TO_MINIMUM_BELOW but automatically).

Only problem is we need the 2 equations and I am really good programmer, but I am useless in math this would take me weeks to figure out :D

If there's anyone interested, the linear model is in second post.

first one will IMHO use log(something) and second pow(something) but simple things that I tried failed horribly :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Wow, I think it really is! I just updated my ROM and had Lumos installed via UC automatically (with a soft reset afterwards before I started the wizard). After the soft reset Lumos tried to start automatically didn't find any settingsfile and started the wizard automatically. That's called "smart programming"! Kudos to you!

The idea sounds great! Unfortunately I can't help you with the math tough. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] coolguy949:
I just installed the newest version and it works great. However, I'm still getting the 2 - 3% CPU on idle and about 7 - 10% when it changes light levels. I'm using Task Manager v3.1 to check CPU speed.

Other than G-Alarm, TouchResponse, .net CF 3.5, and Lumos i've got a stock Sprint Touch Pro.