yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Interesting. I think I saw paid apps available to me in one of the many installations I tried I thought.. but thought nothing of it. Now as of late I can't access them, and did some googling and it seems..

http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138294

Maybe I was just dreaming. I do dream about Android.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Since development was slow, I let it slide a little with keeping this thread for development use only. Now that we've got the development started again, can I ask everyone to start using the Android bug-reporting thread again, so the devs can have the thread for development only please?

Many Thanks.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
I found this but it can't be downloaded for some reason:

http://androidfreeware.net/download-gps-status.html

so I downloaded this:

http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Status-Download-74495.html

But that one won't work. when i try to start it it says something about process being stopped unexpectedly.

So I'll keep on searching for 2.0 version and hope it will work.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Thanks.

I found that one but can't download it.

I have androidapps directory and I put all applications in it. And they all seem to be installed then.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] meknb:
I've just got figure out how to swap the module in the zImage for this one.I just hex edit the module with the kernel name, doesn't work with life02 because it has 2.6 ect then-dirty at the end.So i 'll download the source an have a look,my linux skills are a bit rusty so just been reading up.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Dhoes this mean that even if I had data connection I couldn't download from the market?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Life02 should be able to help you there. I must say with you working on Wifi, Life02 fixing GPS and now working on the battery issue and I believe vilord is making progress with Bluetooth generically its all looking very promising.

Kaiser and Vogue both have irc rooms that devs get together on, if theres a need for one and someone can keep the room open at all times (my understanding is that the room closes if no-ones in it is that correct - anyone?). If theres anyone who keeps there pc on 24/7 and would like to help the development by keeping a room open and managing it, please come forward (or better still, create the room and let us know).
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Found this post from enatefox that might help you with the wifi issue meknb:

Original thread is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4093490&highlight=okibi#post4093490
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
You can download from market providing you have a data connection and you are using a clean data image when you boot 1.5 and not using an older image.

Its a bit flaky sometimes and requires rebooting your phone if it errors but it works fine enough when it does.

A nice lot apps are here from okibi's repo: http://ratedo.com/android/apps/
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Thank you, but no GPS status there.

Can't wait for WLAN, so I can use market
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
try this one:

btw, no-one answered my question about adb the other day, has anyone else got it running or is it just me?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] meknb:
Yer found that one i think this module is pre 1.5 thats why im gettin no unresolved symbols ie wake_lock i found it in the kaizer forum i've tried using insmod but not from the /system/lib/modules/ because i cant write to it.I've also tried modprobe with no luck it just ends up writing a empty dependency file.Do you know if the the modules for devices closed source ie binary's?.I didn't realize the was so much to download ie update my old slackware then kernel source the android toolchain then android source.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
I recompiled the wlan.ko for 1.5 without wakelocks, I'll post it when I get home. Since I didn't have a wlan device, it got to be too much trouble to figure out.

Basically I got to the point where it would load the *module*, but then wlan_loader (which pushes the firmware and configuration to the wlan chip) would error out.

Also, CoPilot live in the market looks great for navigation, theres North America, UK, and western europe maps afaik...

I bought it from the market, it went through fine... first app I've ever paid for in the market, and first time I haven't just downloaded a warez nav app.

It requires a working WiFi connection to download the maps internally. Ugh. I don't have a wifi chip.

It also lets you download directly to your SD card on your PC using this "copilot central" software, but that tells me I need to pay for the maps again. Ugh.

Contacted the copilot people to see if I can find a resolution, I'm sure others would like it to work too.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] excogitation:
http://www.andnav.org/

Wow ... this thread certainly rose from the dead ;-)

Great job, life02.

So maybe there's no need to get the Galaxy after all.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
Test zImage

This zImage is for testing only... I've been playing with PowerManager and the Battery implementation... not sure if we'll see any improvement with battery life or not yet, but I'm planning on running stress tests on it tomorrow. For some reason my device seems to be running snappier on this kernel... As always, let me know how things are working for those of you who want to test.

@Bally... The camera shutter sound is being triggered by the camera button... I have yet to get any output from the camera yet but I have prepped the polaris source with camera entries.

*This one has the old keymaps
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
I am all over this for testing, life02.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Yes, i manage to see the ADB device in my device manager and able to use ADB push and shell commands...

one question, does anyone know how to change the /system to read write access? i'm trying to copy so lib files to the /system/lib folder but failed. it says that the folder is system read only....
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
@freddycs you probably should type "su" before to be root and mount the partition
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
the system is a cramfs filesystem, which is read only. You have to mount it on a linux machine, modify it, and recreate it.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] kulen:
Thank you.

This one works. It shows satellites signals at the bottom but it only shows one red spot on the map.

And satellite numbers seem to be similar to those in windows. so I would say it really works :-)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Hi flo, i type SU however seems i'm not able to change the /system folder to wr. i'm not sure how to do it in linux environment as per Vilord..

is /dev/block/loop1 referring to the /system folder?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pananza:
Are you using pm.sleep_mode=0 or 1 with this zImage? I'm trying it now with 0. Will report if I notice any changes.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] freddycs:
Test Result on the GPS

Thank you life02! the GPS really works! i've tested it with google map and able to get a fix and locate where i am. just that google map hang a couple of times..

i like the new kep mapping as it is more useful than the old one. :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] dzo:
I'm pretty sure sleep_mode 0 won't work on polaris, it doesn't on kaiser. There's not much difference between mode 0 and 1 on vogue anyway. If you use mode 0 and it doesn't work it will use more power than mode 3 so stick to mode 1.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Mormy:
I've got a strange issue with battery:

I'm using pm.sleep_mode=1 and the Life02 zimage with GPS, yesterday Android battery indicator is about 27% I need to reboot in WinMo to read an old sms.

In WinMo I recive the battery advisory of low level :eek: I reboot Android and the battery is still about 27% and last until night.

I charge the phone in Android about 6h, this morning it gives to me 57% in charging and when I reboot in WinMo it says 100% :confused:

P.S. In Android the phone says "In charging" the same moment I plug the cord to the phone, without plug it to the power :(
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
Sorry, forgot to report. I got the ADB driver working and did a quick test. I did notice ls gave me some strange output. I'll see if i can reproduce...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pananza:
For me on my Polaris (POLA100) I've always ran with mode 0 which works fine, but I can feek the phone being a bit hot even when the screen is off and the battery don't last long.

When ran with mode 1 I'm always having problems turning the phone back on. I need to press power button, hangup, menu seemingly random several times until it suddenly wakes up. But with this new zImage I've been running the zImage with powermode 1 for about 1.5 hours now and I have no problems turning the phone on, but my battery is already down to 55% (was full 1.5 hours ago). But I have 3G on and I'm syncing both Google mail and Exchange (via RoadSync). But I do that on WinMo too and the battery lasts more than a day.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
New zimage has neocore working flawlessly! :)

Great work Life02, really impressive!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] pt-1:
@Bally,

I have seen your Post to the attachements but unfortunately it does not show any dates on the files.

( http://xdaforums.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=452108 )

Have we got an updated post as we used to have were the Links to the latest files are listed..?

Just listing the files needed on the SD Card to get it started and possibly listing the changes needed for the Providers..?

Thx

PT-1
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
Hey, this is awesome. OpenGL is suddenly working! What else changed? An an unimpressive 14.9FPS though. But I guess this should speed things up anyways. I am about to test the battery level. Will charge it to 100% and see how long it'll last.

EDIT: btw, what resolution are you guys using? The blur is getting a little annoying....
[Touch Cruise Android Development] Michel82:
@bally; To get back on you on the working ADB. This is the result i get when a do a simple ls -l. All kinds of strange chars ?!

# su
su
~ # ls
ls
←[1;34mbin←[0m ←[0;0minit.rc←[0m ←[1;34mshared_p
refs←[0m
←[1;34mcache←[0m ←[1;32minit1←[0m ←[1;34msmodem←
[0m
←[1;32mcdmaReset←[0m ←[1;34mlib←[0m ←[1;34msqlite_
stmt_journals←[0m
←[1;34mdata←[0m ←[1;34mproc←[0m ←[1;34msys←[0m

←[0;0mdefault.prop←[0m ←[1;34mroot←[0m ←[1;34msystem←[
0m
←[1;34mdev←[0m ←[1;34msbin←[0m ←[1;34mtmp←[0m

←[1;34metc←[0m ←[1;34msdcard←[0m ←[1;32mtoggle.
sh←[0m
←[1;32minit←[0m ←[1;32msetupmodem.sh←[0m
~ # ls -l
ls -l
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34mbin←[0m
drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 8192 Jul 15 09:19 ←[1;34mcache←[0m
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 881 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;32mcdmaReset←[0m
drwxrwx--x 13 1000 1000 1024 Jul 9 10:30 ←[1;34mdata←[0m
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 148 Jan 1 1970 ←[0;0mdefault.prop←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 2480 Jul 15 09:39 ←[1;34mdev←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 0 Jul 15 09:38 ←[1;34metc←[0m
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4730 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;32minit←[0m
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10407 Jan 1 1970 ←[0;0minit.rc←[0m
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 106568 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;32minit1←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34mlib←[0m
dr-xr-xr-x 65 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34mproc←[0m
drwx------ 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34mroot←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34msbin←[0m
drwxrwxrwx 20 root root 4096 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34msdcard←[0m
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2569 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;32msetupmodem.sh←[0m

drwxrwx--x 2 1000 1000 0 Jul 15 09:39 ←[1;34mshared_prefs←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 15 09:40 ←[1;34msmodem←[0m
drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 40 Jul 15 09:39 ←[1;34msqlite_stmt_journ
als←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34msys←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 208 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;34msystem←[0m
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jul 15 09:38 ←[1;34mtmp←[0m
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 620 Jan 1 1970 ←[1;32mtoggle.sh←[0m
~ #
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
I'll have a look at my output when I get home from work today.. but at least its working :)
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Borkat just posted this in the Kaiser thread mkneb, that might interest you with the wifi - see this post - theres a zaimage he's included which might be of interest to you too.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
If you're looking for the latest Android build, check my signature.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
I've been using sleep_mode 1... even though it can be a little annoying at times.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
From my experience, once the battery in android gets below about 40% it usually shows much lower in WinMo. I've never seen them show the same percentage even before I started making changes.

The "charging" without power is a bug that i've seen on multiple ports.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
Yesterday evening I used my phone for about 15 minutes and the power dropped from 95% to 88%. (Internet use, sms etc)

I went to bed last night and left my phone on with 84% with my 3g connection on and woke up about 8.5 hours later and it was down to 34%.

Those were my only two observations.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] imfloflo:
On my HTC G1 i have the same result when i try to do an adb shell command when the device hasn't finish to boot ( during the bootscreen)

I think it's because some partition aren't mount yet
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
I seem to experience that too. Then all of a sudden it's really really low and I get the warning to charge.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
Ok everyone.... I've been really busy with work recently due to a new AV rollout on our servers and I'm also in the middle of buying a new home. I would rather focus my spare time on development than searching the kaiser and vogue forums for answers.

Therefore, I've got a homework assignment for you.

I would like to know what the current status of battery discharging is for the vogue and the kaiser. What type of batteries do each use? Do they have the weird drop to critical battery ~40% like ours does? What sleep modes are the other devices using? Are they turning Background Sync off? Anything else you think might be relevant please include as well.

Thanks!
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
they all use the same type of battery, but they don't all have the same capacity. vogue's battery is 1100mAh I think, and polaris is I think 1350mAh.

My vogue has a weird drop from about 70% to about 30% during calls..

I'm using sleep mode 1, but a number of others are using sleep mode 0. sleep mode 0 hasn't been fully implemented for anything but vogue afaik.

I don't turn off background sync, and i leave modem active... if I make a couple hour long calls, my battery will only last half a day. other than that it goes all day, sometimes two days, without a charge.

The percentage in WM is pretty close to the percentage in android. Not exact, but close.

Temperature changes really throw off the battery percentage, because that is also not implemented... a li-ion battery's voltage will fluctuate a large amount depending on the battery temperature.

EDIT:

Oh yeah, regarding the ls strangeness... that is because it is trying to use colors, and you're terminal doesn't support it.

Either install rxvt from cygwin, or use ls --color=never
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Is temperature something that can/will be implemented then or something that has to be from google? The heat issue hasnt been anywhere near as bad for me of late and I was getting heat issues whilst on the phone in WinMo too, but it is still an issue as it gets quite hot sometimes when in use and warmer than in WinMo when idle I'd say.

Whilst I believe its normal for a phone to get warmer whilst charging, its a bit alarming when the device gets too hot even to be close to your face when in call - even with the screen being off. If we can control that somehow in Android. it would be another great boost as I dont think theres a way of doing this in WinMo.

As of the last complete build that had the Polaris specific default.txt, I have had the battery set at 1350 as it was included but havent noticed any difference.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mikfaina:
Here I am,

I have last ION version of Android and I'd like to test GPS e WIFI but I can't get app to test it cause i can set my data connection I try to make a new APN in Android with data take from this site site but doesn't work I have only a new icon in notification but when I try to connect nothing happen, I change line in default.txt apn=internet.wind but it doesn't work. Anyone know how to set the data I found in that site??? Tomorrow when I have time I'll test battery with the new image.

Bye Mik
[Touch Cruise Android Development] briggs81:
That's my default txt that was included. I just put 1350 for testing purposes to see if it changed anything.. mainly because of what was talked about, that once you get to 40% or so it suddenly dropped. I don't see much difference either.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] meknb:
I loaded the module and loaded the firmware with no errors but still no wifi i've tried ifup and ifconfig but still no device tried creating the interface file in ect/network/interface but still no luck? one thing i have noticed is in the stacktrace i get a error receiver not registered wifiservice ect ?? dont think i've seen this before??

Wonder if the maps for the pda will work on android?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
A bit of a stalemate with the wifi issue, from the post I linked to from kaiser thread it sounds like there might be a kernel upgrade required to get it working. enatefox seems to be lead in the Kaiser thread on this and no doubt vilord will try and tackle some of this when he gets the Polaris.

ps. Updated first post with new developments.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
enatefox, posted this earlier:

D/wlan_loader( 228): adapter tiwlan0, eeprom /proc/calibration, init
/system/etc/wifi/tiwlan.ini, firmware /system/etc/wifi/Fw1251r1c.bin
D/wlan_loader( 228): Configuring adapter
D/wlan_loader( 228): Adapter configuration rc = 0
D/wlan_loader( 228): Starting configMge
D/wlan_loader( 228): ConfigMge start rc = -1
And we would need this to know that the firmware is accepted:

D/wlan_loader( 228): Driver configured
D/wlan_loader( 228): Firmware loaded and running OK
D/wlan_loader( 228): Set property wlan.driver.status = ok - Ok
Dmesg output is:

[ 377.907689] wlan: version magic '2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0 preempt mod_unload ARMv6 ' should be '2.6.25-00818-gf668526 preempt mod_unload ARMv6 '
[ 377.944790] TIWLAN: Driver loading
[ 378.099689] trout_wifi_power: 1
[ 378.099737] trout_wifi_reset: 0
[ 378.138777] trout_wifi_set_carddetect: 1
[ 378.237089] TIWLAN: Found SDIO controller (vendor 0x104c, device 0x9066)
[ 378.241935] TIWLAN: Driver initialized (rc 0)
[ 378.242077] TIWLAN: Driver loaded

Now my question is, is all this done by using adb to talk to the phone or can it? I really want to help out and I'm sure I can do some testing by following whats being posted if I was sure how to go about it.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
meknb, maybe we need to collaborate a bit more on this... I had an interface, wlan0, which can be seen with ifconfig wlan0, but it has a mac address of 00:00:00:00:00 because it didn't load the firmware...
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
D/wlan_loader( 228): Starting configMge

D/wlan_loader( 228): ConfigMge start rc = -1

That is the point where the firmware is rejected by the config management engine (which is part of the wlan chip)

If we can get by that, we'll be golden
[Touch Cruise Android Development] meknb:
I've been looking at some of the blackstone diffs for some pointers on it what device you running vilord?? http://www.gavero.com/pichurri/blackstone/pichurri_2.6.27_2009-03-03.diff which zimage did you use to get wlan0?

I think the -1 is somthing wrong with the irq ??
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Who is your data provider mik?

It sounds like you're putting the information in the right place, but the APN details may be incorrect.

Try looking for them here
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
Mormy and I posted our findings in the POLA200 User Group It Seems like we've got about the same calls working, sms working etc... Briggs posted on the POLA100 that he's having problems with calls.. We need a few more to judge whether thats the same with other POLA100 users and whether the POLA200 users are having call issues.

Come on people, help out!

I have a theory and wonder whether its going to be what I think it is:

POLA100 will have similar issues as Kaiser

POLA200 will have similar issues to the Vogue.

Will be interesting to see whether this is true.

So come on people, I dont ask for much :)

POLA100 Polaris Android Development User Group

POLA200 Polaris Android Development User Group
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mikfaina:
In that site there are only the MMC and MNC tha ae the same provided by the site I posted. But If I set APN in Setting inside androidwhat I have to set inside default.txt???

This is how I have mine

#Polaris
set RAMSIZE 0x08000000
set MTYPE 1723
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "ppp.apn=internet.wind ppp.username= ppp.password= mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcpolaris.panel_type=0 mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0"

boot

I don't know how set apn and user and password.

Damn I tried too to install usb driver to get adb working and install gps soft to try but I can't get it work I'm on Vista Ultima 64bit and when i plug polaris I give the directory of usb driver inside Android sdk and that doesn't recongize by the system. Polaris pop up like android phone but I can't get sd drive and nothing else.....
[Touch Cruise Android Development] vilord:
you have to use the driver that is on the google code site, not the driver in the SDK (that one only supports the android dev phone)

from this site, it shows the APN as internet.wind, the username as Wind, and the password as Wind. Give that a shot maybe?
[Touch Cruise Android Development] bally3:
If you havent sorted this, catch me on here tomorrow and I'll have a chat to you about it. The Apn you set at internet.wind, where did you get that from and who is your data provider?

Regarding adb, try these instructions I posted on the Kaiser forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4110446#post4110446
[Touch Cruise Android Development] mikfaina:
So i changed the default.txt so

#Polaris
set RAMSIZE 0x08000000
set MTYPE 1723
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "ppp.apn=internet.wind ppp.username=Wind ppp.password=Wind mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcpolaris.panel_type=0 mddi_client_vogue.vsync=0"

boot

but nothing should I have to delete the APN created inside wireless settings???

Apn drivers downloaded from vogue google code project doesn't work too I give as installation path to the pup up windows of "android phone " but doens't recognize. Fater trying drivers installation I don't see in Device mangare the android phone like unrecongnized it desappears I have to plug and replug to begin again drivers installations why that?

.....
[Touch Cruise Android Development] life02:
zImage battery Test

So... no better performance out of the battery today with the new test zImage :(

I pushed my polaris hard: GPS for ~2hrs, 3G data 6hrs, Brightness 100%, Background Sync On.. etc...

I only got about 6hrs out of it.. 8am - 2pm.

About 1pm it showed 29%... then at 2pm I got the charge warning... it was at 4%.

Better news: I got the 3D driver working in this release and am getting 15 - 16 fps in neocore!!! Everything seem snappier... including the keyboard.

I'll check the code again and see if I can't find anything else that might improve the battery.
[Touch Cruise Android Development] tranceman1989:
Guys instead of prompt in which lines it is necessary to drive in the communication statement?