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[Magisk] xoose:
Sorry for this off-topic reply, but there are so many coincidental parallels in your life story in November 2022 to mine now in January 2024 that I felt I had to reply and overshare some of my irrelevant life story. I'm up late after not being able to sleep so this story will be too long and not really go anywhere and doesn't really serve a purpose except to distract me from the woes I am experiencing in my life at the moment.

I was born in Sydney 1971. So I had a lot of similar experiences to the ones you derailed in your story, especially regarding information and learning stuff. Our family couldn't afford an encyclopaedia set, but we did get a Commodore 64 when I got to year 7 in 1983.

Coincidentally this was the same year that one of my ex's was born. She had just become a fully qualified highschool English teacher when I met her when she was 23, and we dated for about 3 years on two separate occasions.

We had at least four or five major debates over spelling and grammar in that time, mostly lighthearted but sometimes more serious depending on how wrong she thought I was, but always polite and civil from both parties. Examples include subjects such as the apostrophe not being applicable to the possessive form of "its", whether or not you can send a sentence with a preposition, and the very existence of some word variants in a non-slang context.

I forget some of the specific words and details, but I do remember that she always vehemently stuck to her guns about being correct far longer than she should have, because she had spent several years at university training to be an English master, and I only did 2 unit English for my HSC and finished year 12 just on the 50% percentile cusp (i think it was 300/500 which should be 60% but they adjusted the scores to make 300 the 50% level so that they could make it look like only 40% of its students were below average). I never got into any university (not did I want to) so I was always the unqualified ignoramus.

What I do remember though, was that I was always correct in my grammatical assertions, because I did read a lot and so had about 12 informal training years worth of experiences over her. But more importantly, most of the stuff she was wrong about had been taught to her by the English teaching alumni at Sydney University, which to me was further proof that what they taught in schools a decade or more after I did my HSC in 88 was still garbage. If not even worse than the garbage they taught in my highschool in the 80's where I only learned about a quarter of my English abilities and knowledge. I bet it's even more horrendous now.

I had more to say but I've already done too much angry old man ramble, and since I had little to no useful point to make I'll just end it here (and probably get a notification that it's been deleted by an admin for being off topic).
[Magisk] Fishawy:
If I was a forum mod, I'd still allow it.

While 73sydney is no longer on this forum, many of us enjoyed how he was able to inject a lot of side stories in a post that reflect his knowledge and how amusing a person he can be, especially for someone like myself who aquired the English language mostly by self-education and not by birth. One of my regrets was not seeking to meet him in person back when I lived in Sydney.

Even as a second language, grammatical mistakes make my skin itch lol. Half of my posts here are edited to fix spelling and grammar. I'm also guilty of having a little smile on my face every time I see a native English speaker confuse "there", "they're" and "their".

Mods - if this post and the one above can be treated as a 73sydney XDA tribute rather than off-topic, that would be appreciated.
[Magisk] mrjuniork:
Thank you very much for sharing.

I really enjoyed reading that, while commuting to work.

Posting this as well, in order to make sure no one else is touching the posts above 😎

I too, was one of the individuals, enjoying his personality and his so often "XDA forum rules borderline" posts (not borderline towards my own "rules" though).

Tribute to whom tribute is due.

Cheers and have a great one y'all
[Magisk] m0han:
Yeah, All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. So let's have some musings like this once in a while.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
I apologise if it's been answered before and i have read the GitHub guide.

I have 2 bank apps that forced an update on me today (Lloyds and MBNA) needless to say they both detected root now even with shamiko so i thought I'd try HMA.

I've configured a blacklist containing all my root apps and applied it to the 2 bank apps and rebooted.

Unfortunately anytime i enable either app in HMA (blacklist or whitelist) they both refuse to start/open. As soon as I disable them in HMA they open but obviously detect root.

Am I doing anything wrong?

Edit

I have tried other apps and they still open when enabled in HMA but both Lloyds and MBNA which i got forced to update refuse to open if i enable them in HMA. They both also crash if I try adding them to bootloader spoofer or any lsposed mod tbh
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Not sure what you are doing wrong, but I can tell you for sure that I installed MBNA right now and after adding it to deny list of Magisk Alpha with Shamiko, the login page opens without any issues. I am not sure what your magisk setup is, but would request you to take a pause, remove the two apps from HMA and current deny list, uninstall the apps deleting data and cache and reboot. Reinstall the app, add it to deny list and reboot.
[Magisk] zgfg:
There is a similar case with Momo. Try enabling any LSPosed type hiding (Bootloader spoofer, I am not Developer, etc, against Momo, and Mono will just report more findings, never less
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
@WhoIsJohnGalt1979

Are you on the latest MBNA released today? V129.02?

Both Lloyds and MBNA will FC if you hook them with any lsposed mod even update locker and point blank refuse to open if added to HMA (all my other apps open with HMA just the 2 that i got forced to update today)

So basically both these apps will not work/open if added to any lsposed mod now

I'm currently running latest magisk canary so might switch to alpha, anything i need to be aware of when switching?
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Are you on the latest MBNA released today? V129.02?: Yes, I downloaded the app from the play store to test for you, same version.

I'm currently running latest magisk canary so might switch to alpha, anything i need to be aware of when switching?: Please follow https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/post-89168686 (Step 2).

Canary and Alpha use the same native bridge hiding, and you do have Shamiko, not sure if Magisk is the choke point, well might as well check if those two apps are super important for you.
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
The app launches fine and only detects root after you enter your login details, so if you don't have an account/login details it won't detect root.

Something has happened today as i got forced to update them with the usual message .

The issue might be connected to lsposed as they both crash if hooked by any lsposed mod at all and point blank refuse to even launch with HMA
[Magisk] pndwal:
@xoose, @mrjuniork,

FWIW, that Style Master just made me aware or this little exchange...

As someone still in communication with him (we've never met despite being practically neighbours in Sydney too - he's a true blue Aussie (well, sort of), me; he just mistakes me for one...), I can confirm he's enjoying life with cats and alternative projects, and has read and appreciated your anecdotes and observations... I quite enjoyed his style here too (but wouldn't have called it masterful). His masterful SQLite fix for GPay was so useful for many GPay users for a year or so till things changed however... He still keeps up with XDA a bit, and there'll certainly be some repercussions for this post...

As for the OP here, @ipdev the doc, he's dropped right of the grid sadly. I really miss his input here as well as many private conversations and his special bedside manner... He brought a unique technical insight to topics like this one as well as some often needed balance to XDA forums... He's not only missed by me, I'm more than a little concerned about the prolonged silence frankly... Hope you're just neck deep in patent cases and come up for again sometime mate... I stole this emoji from you, but I'm keeping it: 🤠 PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
Since I recently re-flashed my phone, this week I finally found time to install again LSPosed with my favorite modules: AOSP Mods, CustoMIUIzer14, Update Locker, Fermata Auto and then obviously also the HMA

Besides the couple of real apps that I have to hide root from, and therefore I need HMA to hide the LSPosed modules, I also want to have the clean sheet(no detections at all) in TB Checker, Ruru, Applist Detector, Hunter, S-Check and Oprek Detector, hence I also need HMA for them

(Before installing LSPosed, I did have the clean sheet - so I'm omitting here the trivialities about DenyList, Shamiko and PIF)

I prefer Whitelist mode in HMA so I first set Whitelist mode for all those apps (detectors) in HMA: Enable hide, Workmode Whitelist and Exclude System apps

Immediately after rebooting it worked for Hunter, S-Check and Oprek (no more detections there), hence I left Whitelist mode for them

However, TB Checker, Ruru and Applist Detector were still reporting HMA (and only that, not my other LSPosed modules), and only under Libc and Syscall File Detection - that is, not under Xposed Modules, it was clean there with no detections

Therefore I switched to Blacklist mode with a template hiding Magisk and all my five LSPosed modules apps (including the HMA itself !!!) ,and I rebooted of course, (again, omitting those newbie steps)

But it didn't help, Ruru, Applist Detector and TB Checker were still reporting HMA under the Libc and Syscall File Detection sections

I tried with an older Shamiko v0 7.x (thinking that's maybe related to the brand new Shamiko v1 0.1) but nothing changed

Since I did previously use HMA for like two years and I always had clean sheets in Ruru, Applist Detector and TB Checker, I checked my old screenshots with the settings (I usually took the screenshot of things that I consider they might be useful in future)

As I was suspicious about, I indeed found that on my same phone, with the same (but an older version of) Xiaomi.eu Stable 14 ROM I previously had to enable: App data isolation, Vold App data isolation and Enforce Data isolation for all apps

And now again, only when I enabled all the three App Data Isolation options, I finally had the clean sheets (no more detections) in Ruru, Applist Detector and TB Checker

In fact, I previously also posted about (but it's hard to search through the old posts on XDA, especially when I don't remember when it was and if it was in this thread, Magisk general thread or maybe in the Magisk Zygisk thread)

Last but not the least, I re-checked everything (including also the other detectors Momo, Root Beer Fresh...) and confirmed that there are no side effects due to the enabled (Vold) App data isolation,- everything is ok, no issues introduced by
[Magisk] m0han:
How/where does one do that? If HMA, what version are you using? I'm on v2.3.2 and can't find those options. Are they available only in Whitelist mode? Attaching your screenshots and mine.
[Magisk] mGforCe:
Open HMA, go to Settings. Scroll to section Module and you will see Data Isolation with the 3 options.

2 options (first & last) enabled by default, middle one disabled

Mind you, enabling middle option "Vold App data" led to frozen systems for many including me.

So pls try with caution. If it (forzen system) happens, the only solution it to format and install afresh.
[Magisk] zgfg:
And something not related to Vold Data Isolation but to HMA Whitelist mode with "Exclude System apps" disabled and TB Checker or 'banking' apps that need to test Play Integrity (or the deprecated SafetyNet):

https://xdaforums.com/t/module-play-integrity-fix-safetynet-fix.4607985/post-89312071

Sorry for cross-posting but it's IMO worth to be aware of
[Magisk] m0han:
Asking as before: Which version are you referring to? I have v2.3.2 and I fail to see what you are talking about.
[Magisk] mGforCe:
v3.2
[Magisk] dipseeet:
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iam using Kitsune SUList and

HideMyApplist

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how to get rid of

"BusyBoxBinaries" found

in RootBeer/Ruru/TB Checker?

(and what is "Magisk UDS Check"?)

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and i still have

"Libc/Syscall File Detection" found

for HideMyApplist

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[Magisk] zgfg:
You must use first of all enable TB Checker and your other detectors in DenyList - in Delta it would be MagiskHide/Unmount modules

HMA only hides apps and LSPosed modules, DenyList/MagiskHide/Unmount modules (blacklist mode) hide the Magisk itself, su and Magisk modules

PS: In the SuList (whitelist mode), they should have been hidden out-of-the-box, IDK why it doesn't work for you (not using Kitsune anymore)
[Magisk] zgfg:
Ooh, sorry, I see now

If you're using SuList= Whitelist mode, you must renove TBChecker and other detectors and banking apps from SuList

Whitelist means, you want those apps to see and use root, Magisk modules, etc - you certainly don't want TBChecker, Ruru, etc to see root

And you must instead list HMA in Whitelist

If you are not familiar how to use SuList = Whitelist mode, then use Unmount modules = Blackilist node that must be configured like DenyList in standard Magisk
[Magisk] fbirraque:
I'm also Kitsune + HMA + LSposed and did exactly same tests than you. The ONLY issue for me is "SE linux Flag Is Enabled"

Thanks in advance if someone know how to workaround it.
[Magisk] zgfg:
It's the false detection in RootBeer. It was already discussed in other threads

Ie, you can make it to pass with RootBeer, but the other apps like TB Checker (that properly checks the for SELinux) will rightly complain then about SE Linux

So disregard

PS: Its an old issue in RootBeer, see the report on GitHub from 2021:

Is selinux flag giving a false positive? · Issue #183 · scottyab/rootbeer

Hi. I have a Samsung note 20 ultra. I am not sure why rootbeer sample app indicates that my phone is rooted. My phone is not rooted. I have used other apps like root checker, advanced root checker ...

github.com

RootBeer incorrectly interprets the empty:

su -c getprop ro.build.selinux
[Magisk] fbirraque:
Thank you so much for your always valuable knowledge.
[Magisk] dipseeet:
iam already using SuList and only root apps and lsposed/magisk modules are inside

i need to put HMA in my SuList?!

:D

thank you very much for your help

iam familiar with both of them and i prefer SuList ... iam coming from Unmount Modules Mode and i was happy to see that Kitsune now offers both ways ... my setup with SuList to get bankings apps etc. to work is simple ... with Umount Modules it was quite "horrible"
[Magisk] stanley321:
HMA seems to be not working on the latest March update?

The selected app won't start
[Magisk] DanielF50:
Same behaviour here on my Pixel 8 Pro... thought I was going mad 😅

Any apps that your custom template is applied to just hang on the app splash screen and slowly begin to take up more and more storage space.
[Magisk] howardfok:
Same here on my Pixel 7 Pro, after March update
[Magisk] JasDevi:
Same issue. Unable to start the selected apps
[Magisk] stanley321:
Is Dr-TSNG aware of this? There is no Issue tab on the GitHub repo, the telegram discussion group is closed. Can someone get in touch with him?

I'm on Pixel 6, I failed to dirty flash back to Feb update. Dirty flash ends with boot loop. What is the proper steps to downgrade with factory image?
[Magisk] DanielF50:
Not sure, but I have a potential solution below if you're running pumPCin's LSPosed fork?
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Could you kindly share which banking application were you able to access only after used HMA?
[Magisk] stanley321:
I'm already using the official version though
[Magisk] DanielF50:
Interesting. Maybe it's the process of re-flashing LSPosed, instead of the version/fork?

Santander, my others don't require HMA but I still hide the app list from them just Incase they decide to update them at a later date 🤦‍♀️
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
I've been having this issue for ages but have also been on QPR2 beta which is now the new stable. I thought the issue was the apps i was hiding rather than HMA because other xposed mods stop the apps working. Even adding my affected apps to lsposed update locker stopped them opening
[Magisk] LETSMOKE:
Been trying to fix this all day because one banking app is detecting root whatsoever, and only with hiding the apps would work.

Tried changing from Canary to Alpha with no success. In the end, I disabled fully HMA and installed IceBox (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox&hl=en&gl=US) and selecting hidden magisk manager app (default name Settings).

Apparently, the bank app was detecting the hidden magisk manager, don't know how, but using Ice Box is flawless.

First freeze magisk, then open the banking app and it works. Also, the app has shortcuts to fast open a freezed app and also a shortcut to freeze all selected apps at once.
[Magisk] pndwal:
What LSPosed version are you running? PW
[Magisk] LETSMOKE:
I was using latest official when I encountered yesterday this problem, now using the fork mentioned upper
[Magisk] chrbur:
Is there a solutin concerning the freeze of the selected apps? It must be a problem with Android March Update. I will not update the Pixel 8 Pro :-) But with the Pixel 7 I have the problem.
[Magisk] LETSMOKE:
See my post below
[Magisk] m0han:
Did you mean 'above'? There is no 'my post below'.
[Magisk] jarjarr:
Any fixes for this? I too have the same issue if I hide an app, it cannot start for example Play Store no longer works after activating.
[Magisk] chrbur:
I think we have to wait for an update... one is two weeks and the problem should be solved
[Magisk] Aguys:
Workaround for freezing apps on March update: Disable App data isolation and Vold app data isolation. Then use whitelist mode. Works for me for hiding apps.
[Magisk] JasDevi:
Looks like dbs digibank did some updates and detecting it again with the freezing
[Magisk] jarjarr:
That's exactly what worked for me. Disabling Vold data isolation.
[Magisk] Anchewei:
Also works for me by disabling app data isolation and using whitelist mode.

But is there any difference or any concern using the whitelist mode in this way?
[Magisk] son_91:
work for almost all apps, just only a bank app can not open. :(
[Magisk] Sascha_K1994:
Without the app isolation in the settings, Ruru recognizes the app via Libc and Syscall, despite HideMyAppList not being in the whitelist. This means that some apps do not work. The old solution with blacklist and isolation did not have these problems.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Yes, exactly. I think I had the same with TB-Checker. Reported earlier in this thread
[Magisk] Aguys:
Yes, the old solution is still the best. Lucky me, my target apps still work without isolation.
[Magisk] Revenant81:
I ended up removing the apps that froze from HMA. Seems counterintuitive, but this is in line with "whitelisting" that everyone else is doing.

Perhaps the March 2024 implemented app data isolation into the OS build. When I opened up Citibank, it no longer warned that my device was rooted. /shrug
[Magisk] G5-User7080:
So this probably doesn't make sense..

App isolation and force isolation was on for me and VoId was off for me.

I turned it on and my apps worked again, still blacklist mode. Turned it off again like it was before and it's still working. Idk what VoId does but it was off for me before so I just leave it off.

Applist detector can still find magical and storage isolation via syscall and libc, but it's the same for if I turn HMA off for it.. so idk if it's even working.
[Magisk] Winryr:
Thank you for this, helped solve my issue for now, hopefully resolved later in an update
[Magisk] G5-User7080:
welp, discord and some other stuff worked again, paypal and banking didnt.

So I turned Vold app data isolation on and everything works.

I take it :)
[Magisk] fijasko:
dev posted an update here: https://github.com/mModule/guide_hma?tab=readme-ov-file#warning-for-google-pixel-users---march-2024

but it's still not working for me with the settings they proposed

edit: it works for me too. also it wasn't the dev, see the post below
[Magisk] pndwal:
Adrian is not a HMA dev however... He's just written useful guides on that and associated configuration hosted along with @ipdev's utilities and with his help (and a (very) little from me)... 👀 PW
[Magisk] chrbur:
the posted update worked for my wife's Pixel 7 :-) All apps work, Wallet also fine. Waiting for the next catastrophe :-/
[Magisk] Aguys:
This pull https://github.com/Dr-TSNG/Hide-My-Applist/pull/294 seems to have fixed the freezing issue🤔A14 April update.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Please link build... didn't find CI or other on GitHub... From @aviraxp (Wang Han) or built yourself? 👍 PW
[Magisk] Aguys:
I build myself.

Edit:

Pulls are merged, you can download apk at github actions👌
[Magisk] Mollchunn:
Hello everyone. I have Galaxy A02 with stock patched ROM. All checkers work good exclude TB checker, which marks Syscall File detection as fail. I use SuList mode, Kitsune Mask 27001, HMA, Ruru, Applist detector and others show that's all right. What I can to do to resolve this?

Also on other phone Xiaomi Mi8 I have another trouble. When I use mock location, Mock Location Info app shows that Mock Location app presents. I can hide it from checker by HMA, but trouble itself is that my target app is detected as for mock location, but it isnt. So, when I mock my location and tap to allow to use my location in app, it immediately block me. It detects itself as app for mock location, and hide it from itself sounds like a nonsense) Idk why at all mock location checker detects any apps as possible for mock location, cus on A02 it isn't ever if I don't turn HMA on. Can you help me somehow with advice?
[Magisk] Mollchunn:
How it works in Ruru and TB:

How mock loc check works on A02 and OnePlus 9 without any hiding and mock app running:

How it works on Xiaomi Mi8

with hiding by HML (doesn't matter mock app is running or not)

It just detect any app that mentioned in Developer Options as eligible to use as mock location app. My target app by the way also mentioned there, idk why.

Thank you all for any help.
[Magisk] zgfg:
To get clean TB Checker detections, I must (and I do) enable Data Isolation in HMA and Whitelist mode as on the screenshots

However, I never use mocl locations
[Magisk] Mollchunn:
Thank you for help, I tried but didn't help😐
[Magisk] pndwal:
Thanks!...

I see the fixed CI build was posted in Nullptr's (private) group on 19 April, but GitHub members can get it too:

fix ci (#277)

Fix for "Fix argument order of startViaZygote() hook on 14 QPR2" (#294) #307

Google ref:

2cfe9651b5e90e7968e21b2d4b58d54e2b83b7d9 - platform/frameworks/base.git - Git at Google

👍 PW

Edit: Attached fixed CI build (for those without a GitHub account) here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/hide-my-applist-a-brief-guide.4519731/post-89489285
[Magisk] chrbur:
Hey girls, Update regarding #371.

Also works for my Pixel8Pro Android 14 April Update.
[Magisk] 73sydney:
1. I dont see how this relates to HMA and i hate to be all "please stay on topic" - HMA doesnt interact down to the level of trackers or network access it works on apps and apps alone.

2. i dont use island or any similar app sorry and couldnt even hazard a guess at of what youre looking to do is even possible as that seems overly complex and youre perhaps trying to do too much in the pursuit of saving battery, when its quite common for people seeking to stop battery drain with almost obsessive focus, to actually end up using more battery in the pursuit. my own personal preference is to change doze parameters and also doze google play services, and break as least amount of stuff as possible.