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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] diar:
This is very frustrating. Nothing seems to fix this problem. I've reduced the call ID match to five digits instead of eight. I've made sure that Ring Time is set to "without delay" in DiamondTweak. I'll try the idea to change the call forwarding time but this seems to be a major problem in the OS itself. With this issue, Voice Command problems, the GPS lag and other issues I might have to jump to another phone.

Do cooked ROMS have these same issues?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DSF:
I've got the same issue.. using T.I.R. V8R ROM, so yes, this delay is present also on custom ROMS. It has to do with the dialer skin?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bugsykoosh:
This was discussed in a thread on an app that causes the vibrate pattern to match the ring pattern in hacks & discussions (I think called VAlert). The vibrate pattern starts immediately and the ring is delayed so the app isn't perfect (unless you build a delay into the vibrate but that's separate). The solution seems to be an app from tweaks2k2.net that I hear removes the delay. This is an issue with all WM phones. I haven't tried tweaks2k2 but I hear it works.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] diar:
the tweaks2k2 fix - to eliminate the 3 second ringer delay - didn't work for me. so i went into the network phone settings and set the call forwarding to 25 seconds (it was 10). that didn't fix the ringer delay but now at least my phone rings three or four times before going to voicemail. i guess that will have to do for now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] majkeljj:
it don't work sorry :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
Doing some debugging, on the Fuze at least the ringer delay seems to be tied to the bloatedness of the dialer.. it has a whole bunch of imports so its loading alot of stuff up every time you get an incoming call.. I'm afraid the only solution for this will be a dialer that does not bring in those kind of dependancies (PTT, Video Share, G-Sensor, etc)

The fastest way to go would be using the default windows dialer, but you'd lose all that functionality.. but hey. It would ring instantly!

I'll look into stripping the dialer from my clean ROM and providing a cab..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
Confirmed. Removed the AT&T dialer skin from my rom and called my phone, rang as fast as any other phone would.. So the dialer skin is indeed the culprit.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lollonais:
Dang AT&T. Dang them and all their bloatware.

I'm going to corporate store to complaint. To all of them within a 10 mile radios.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
I've posted my Beta 1.5 with the dialer removed. It's not an official fix by AT&T, but it is a fix..

I'll see if I can whip up a .cab to stop the dialer from loading in the stock AT&T ROM, that should help there too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] diar:
i like this dialer...but not that much. how do i disable it? in advanced config, i saw an option to enable the phone dialer skin or the default windows mobile dialer. would switching to the default fix it without causing any other problems?

EDIT: switched to default dialer and that fixed it. it also seems to have fixed the problem of having to re-enter the data connection password after a soft reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
This set of cab's should do the job for anyone who doesn't want to install Advanced Config (it's a single registry entry HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin - Enabled=0/1)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] YellowGTO:
Wow it really is about two seconds before the phone rings. Hm I never missed a call yet on this phone. where do you keep your phone that it takes so long to answer it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
AT&T's network lets you set the number of seconds before the call rolls over to voicemail, as do others, I believe the default on AT&T is 20 seconds, with a minimum of 5 and a maximum of 30, so if someone has it set to 5, that leaves only 3 seconds..

Of course they could just set it higher, but that's a different issue :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] YellowGTO:
So then a simple fix would be to go into your voicemail and set it to 22 seconds and then you still have the same time to pick up that phone. But still how does the 2 second dely really make you miss all them calls?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
Maybe the people calling are really impatient and can't wait two whole seconds more? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ferus:
Ok, I did a test and put back the WM dialer - the problem is indeed gone.

The phone rings immediately(I did it in AC3.3).

However, I do have a question - can I get at least the picture of the caller on the screen with the WM dialer? I really miss this feature.

EDIT: Sorry, my fault. I didn't have a picture assigned to my other phone that's why I didn't see anything. ;-) So actually my problem with lag is gone. Yey!

PS: My network provider doesn't allow me to change Call forwarding to mailbox so the 3 seconds lag is not a problem for me - the phone would ring endlessly. But the change of dialer can help those whose calls are forwarded.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jbedoya:
This worked pretty fine for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jmilt13:
Ill add that this is also a problem with the Verizon TP and the HTC dialer, best solution if you don't want to disable the HTC dialer (g-sensor mute, ear to phone sensor, data dormant/bluetooth icons, and volume control) is to call *611 and ask them to change the default ring time from 15 seconds to 30 seconds. If you get someone that doesn't understand ask for a higher-up. Verizon was able to do this 12/24/8
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
if you go to the standard WM dialer you do lose things

i know you use the symbol to let you know that bluetooth is on there was something else but now i forget
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] allthatinny:
what do you lose? half the extra features i like to call them, i dont use cuz i know no one else with another att phone
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nuttsp:
Ok when I disable the phone skin I also loose the ability to control the phone volume. Is there a way to fix this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fylim:
You might want to check if you are using wave files or other type of audio file types as your ring tone.

It seems that wave files are much quicker compared to other file types. I can confirm that for MP3.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Rayt70:
Att Fuze doesn't ring...?

Ok my phone is GREAT but, I have a problem with incoming calls. My Fuze will ring once then go straight to voice mail when it is face down (how do I permanently turn this off?). I tried Diamond Tweaks but it only fixes the problem temporarily. Can someone please help me fix this? :confused:I am a NOOB please help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pjpol:
Try searching the forum :) where you'll find change the registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PHONE - FaceDownMuteRing (change to 0) - this will disable the Face Down Mute Feature and the your phone will still ring after you turn it faced down
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jouke74:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Dailing

Script=ap

HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ringtone0

Script=av0pr

This also saves a few seconds. Note that if you change your ringtone, you have to reapply these tweaks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alonroz:
This seems to work great, thanks!

Shortened the delay to about a second after the hardware buttons light up.

Cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] halloj:
Diamond has the same problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pandaboyy:
In my case, it got worse after I replace the rilphone.dll... this bothers me, but not that much. If it's an important phone call, people will wait for more than 3 rings... if not then, you know, who care? More peaceful time :p

but if you guys found a fix, then I will be happy to try.

While editing the reg on a cooking session, I found that there are several registries that let you choose how many second the device should wait when someone call... I don't remember where or what exactly those waiting second is for... but, I'll search again, and I'll let you guys know what I found or didn't find.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Roland Deschain:
As someone else mentioned, I will elaborate further; along with changing the forward option from 20 to 25 or 30 seconds, convert your ring tone to a .wav file instead of .mp3, since I'm guessing most people are using an MP3 for their ring tone. MP3s are compressed, and it takes considerable (from a mobile device perspective) CPU power and RAM activity to start playing them, partially depending on where the file is stored. Most people don't know this, and it definitely causes a delay. So, use .wav files for ring tones. (there are countless free MP3 > wav converters for free on the internet, Google is your friend)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alonroz:
I'm actually using a ringtone that was provided with the phone, "Ring-Generic3".

It's a WMA file. Tried your method, converted it to WAV, the filesize went from 14KB to 64KB (naturally), but it didn't reduce the delay at all...

Any idea if this should improve the delay issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] player911:
Following Da_G's rom development, he found it is the default HTC dialer causing the delay. Since his roms don't come with any HTC extras the ring delay is gone. I think he also stripped down the latest HTC dialer (phone canvas) to reduce any lagging.

I have my phone on vibrate constantly... which is maybe why I don't see any lag.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] warri:
I solved this problem, and it also solves the screen turning off when talking on the phone problem too. Go in to advanced Config -> Phone -> Phone Skin: Disabled.

This removes the touchflo3d Phone Skin and replaces it with the WM Dialer, its not that much uglier that is it still looks pretty, and it removes the caller id/Ring Lag and keeps your screen on while making a call so if need be you can enter passwords or pins or dial for conference with out pressing the power button to turn the screen back on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
you didnt really "solve" it this has been known for a while actually

but most of us want the good dialer without the delay

the winmo one doesnt have the bluetooth icon and volume buttons dont work along with other stuff
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] warri:
true, i'm really just using this as a fix until someone creates a good dialer with very little lag, and possibly a nice keep screen on function, since i dont know any computer languages besides Vbasic (currently learning C++ as im studying to be an Electrical Engineer) i cant modify or create my own :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TitanG:
Delay or waking up?

I have the Alltel touch pro and thought I had the ringer delay. 1st I looked for any settings to keep it from going to voicemail and contacted Alltel to see if they could make the change. Neither option was available.

I have found though that it isn't that there is not a ringer delay. I mostly keep the phone in a holester on my belt and put the phone 'to sleep' by pressing and releasing the power button. If the phone rings while in the holester when I'm pulling it out the touch pad at the bottom is now active and gets pressed - mostly the end button which sends the call to voicemail.

If I 'lock' the phone by pressing and holding the end call button (bottom right) it locks the phone and all buttons and I can place it in the holester thinking this would solve the problem.

However, as soon as the phone receives a call and begins ringing the phone is unlocked and awake again so the same thing happens where the buttons are active. If I'm real careful sometimes I can get the phone out without the buttons getting hit.

When I used a Moto Q and locked it you could answer the call by hitting the soft key but all other buttons were locked until you purposefully unlocked them. the soft key was not easily hit accidentally. Is there a setting that keeps the buttons locked on the touch pro when the phone rings?

Greg
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] maxpesky:
I agree with warri on this. Been searching high and low, tried every suggestion covered on here (installed Diamond Tweak, coverting ringtones to wav files, etc) but no joy. Called phone provider but they can't delay the time limit to voicemail, unless I divert calls to another phone or disable voicemail altogether, which aren't viable options for me.

So I guess for now, the best "workaround" for me is disabling the HTC phone skin until HTC or MS fix this issue. Or one of the xda forum wizards out there comes up with a perfect tweak/fix for this ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Twanger2k:
I am experiencing the same problem with my t-mobile mda Vario iv and am very disappointed. turning off the tf3d dialer is not an option for me since the buttons of the wm dialer are way too small for me and there's no sound when pressing a button. so i set the forwarding delay to 20 seconds hoping that the caller has enough patience not to hang up :)

hopefully in the near future someone will bring up a slimmed down dialer that does not come up with all the unnecessary featrues that most people do not need like g-sensors and stuff.
[General Topics] Cody10187:
Ok,I'm going to try to explain this with the most relevant details I can think of.I was with this girl for 6 months in 2020...she had a bunch of old phones and was taking college courses for business management/computer something.at the time I wasn't sober so I didn't catch on to things such as the stock firmware in my 2017 Jetta that started out as Volkswagen vnet software was replaced with the following(GNU-linux,Frob,anti grain geometric 2.4,Bsd3,clauso?,FreescaleBTUs,libuuid-expat,curl 7.39,I.C.u.4.0.1,ansi2.knr.c,IJG code,config.guess,config sub,It config,ITMAIN.sh,ssleay) and my Stylo 4 was flashed with a custom rom....she had found some things on my Google drive from my past that uploaded automatically and got very jealous..shortly after for unrelated reason she went to prison..august 2021 she got out and a month later my Verizon service stopped working 8 days before my bill was due,that was my first sign.then I was helping her figure out why her phone camera was malfunctioning (girls like to make us feel smart sometimes by fixing things they pretend to have no knowledge of...if only I had known lol) her k8 that she had since before prison and I noticed it was rooted...when asked she got insanely defensive and denies knowing anything at all even pretended to not know how to place a SIM card in a slot...a 50$ hybrid sim card I can't find any info on..she's cheated in the past and I caught her from reading her messages one day..so far 4 phones and my laptop have been flashed/tampered with either bootroot or custom roms...there's much more to this story and I'm not seeking criticism...my question is this,I found a manifest in internal storage that appeared suddenly not inside any file.im in the begginer/noob stage of all this but it has sparked my curiosity and I found a new passion...is this manifest modified to do anything special.please positive answers only.she tells me I'm crazy and these things aren't possible,I may be a dummy in this field compared to y'all but I'm self taught and fairly new to the android world.i seek guidance wise ones lol
[General Topics] Cody10187:
For the record I'm not asking for relationship advice.i thought it was all to spy on me for loyalty purposes Wich was fine...I'm positive it was solely about prevention of catching her doing whatever.shes in the past...my new found passion for computer science I have a very toxic relationship to thank for...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tworla:
This has been bugging me for a while now. When charging my Note 10+ with Android 12, the device will unlock itself and display the home screen. I don't know why google thought this was a good idea but it is terribly inconvenient and unnecessary. There are also a few other situations where this happens like when notifications are received. Can this feature be disabled by installing a custom ROM? Are there any ROMS that are like the "Windows Pro" versions of android? I feel like I am using software for dummies.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] adonix:
Hello everyone,

I own an Eten X800 smartphone and i'm trying to cook a wm6.1 rom.

I have the right tools but i need a wm6.1 rom to port it to my device. My x800 support vga screen.

I know that HTC Diamond Touch have the same screen resolution but all i can find is cooked roms and the originla HTC wm6.1 hve the 5.2.19192 OS (if i'm not mistaken).

Can anyone give me a link to a complete uncooked wm6.1 with an OS greater than 5.2.2xxxx with vga support?

Thanks for your help
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dancer_69:
I'm not an expert, so correct me if it's wrong, but I think that you can use an emulator image. There are for wm6.1 and wm6.1.4
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cellneuron:
http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showforum=49
[OnePlus 10 Pro] OppoTech123:
Hello all, i am here to leak OPPO tech tool that allows one plus 10 pro to be flashed. Sadly i cannot share login but if you are able to bypass login screen the tool does not need to authenticate with server to flash device in EDL mode. Attached is screen shot of login screen and file. The tool picks up device in EDL mode and allows user to select the OPF file associated for device (please note you must have this downloaded externally ideally from msm tool for your device)

I wish you luck bypassing this login and fixing your phones.

View attachment 5713993
[OnePlus 10 Pro] galaxys:
Great to see! Kudos 📱😎
[OnePlus 10 Pro] TrajanoX3:
is this working?
[OnePlus 10 Pro] OppoTech123:
I will upload extra files found in device in next 10 minutes such as logs and other tool. Not sure if useful but may be useful
[OnePlus 10 Pro] OppoTech123:
Here is extra files as promised. also it appears login connects with these servers; perhaps they can be spoofed/enumerated to bypass login for designated locations:

Europe: https://service-eu.myoppo.com/

India: https://service-in.myoppo.com/

(there are more but i can't be bothered searching through subdomains, should be easy enough to find with OSINT).

Good luck! Reach out if you have any questions or need any files that you think may be cached on system that ran this tool.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Mr Hassan:
Awesome job
[OnePlus 10 Pro] OppoTech123:
The tool theoretically should work on *all* OnePlus, RealME, and Oppo devices that are flashable in EDL mode and can be picked up under the COM ports, and have OPF files available for them.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Ph0nysk1nk:
So, anyone here smart enough to figure this out? Maybe @Grovez can we borrow your technical skills?
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Canuck Knarf:
Not sure if this is any good
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Grovez:
This tool seems to be intended for use with mediatek devices.

I wouldn't bet on it working with this phone, but here's how to bypass the login screen anyway.

Open DownloadTool.exe with a hex editor

Find '74 4b 8d 45 d4'

Replace '74 4b' with '90 90'

Save, launch, enter any username/password/code and click login.

If you go to 'Software Package Management', you can specify a folder where your .ofp is located.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] OppoTech123:
Getting somewhere

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[OnePlus 10 Pro] OppoTech123:
Note, you must start flash and then proceed to plug in device for it to be recognized by tool. It will not show up if you plug in then click flash,
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Ph0nysk1nk:
Did it flash successfully?
[OnePlus 10 Pro] TrajanoX3:
it worked out ?
[OnePlus 10 Pro] kulprit3.0:
Sweet! Good Job guys! This is why I love XDA.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Mr Hassan:
Can you send this modded tool to my i have device to chk
[OnePlus 10 Pro] TrajanoX3:
We have to test and see if it's really working before any celebration
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Ph0nysk1nk:
Whos got a 10 pro here thats in EDL mode lol. Though, worrying that OPPO tech didnt post a flash complete pic.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] TrajanoX3:
we have to wait for someone with brick and take the test
[OnePlus 10 Pro] Mr Hassan:
I have to test but mine is not in 9008 its OK
[OnePlus 10 Pro] dlads:
That's dedication right there
[OnePlus 10 Pro] evilhawk00:
Glad to hear that, but I don't recommend doing it this way because it may have no results. And the device owner can still flash their device remotely with a little software setup assistance. And right now we just need people to use the tool with a certain procedure. If you would like to test the thing, I can assist remotely, but not today(Just finished my schedule today, and have to rest).

And I'm not that "decent" as you imaged in this case, I do reserve engineering on malware most of the time, most of the codes I've been studying are backdoors, spyware, malware, lol. I'm still quite new to "Normal" software.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] mxz55:
I see.. it feels different to do the remote way lightheartedly and possibly brick it, than have the device in an experienced developer's hands that can test a bunch of things if it initially bricks & find a purpose for it to further development progress anyways.

I will monitor upcoming discussion on both 10 Pro (MSM) and 10T development, to spot any situation where a physical device may help a renowned developer under the right circumstances
[OnePlus 10 Pro] hackslash:
The tool is the same for all OnePlus/Oppo devices.

I'll be dumping all of the EDL files in the tool soon so that we have a backup just in case.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] hackslash:
Exactly.

The goal right now is to dump the entire network traffic and all USB packets. All that requires is a valid MSM account. There really is no need for a device, and the chances of brick are non existent, since it's a EDL Flash.

That dump requires a one time effort by someone to allow me or someone else to setup the necessary tools and perform the flash and dump. The sad part is that the entire process requires a valid MSM Account. The last one we got eventually expired and no one stood up to boot his device for EDL and do one complete EDL Flash. Unless we have a new MSM account, things won't change, at all, for the time being.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] evilhawk00:
Same as @hackslash said, I don't really think it will brick during the procedure because it is the official tool. But still, I can't say I'm 100% positive about unknown things. And the result can be shared because it's just some data bytes. The whole thing is related to the PC software only, so it's not that necessary to acquire a real device unless it is used for building some third-party flash tool.

If someone is willing to flash remotely, just send PM.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] evilhawk00:
That's because you didn't do the procedures right. And you need to set up forwarding rules correctly.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] mxz55:
Just to get things straight.. is there anything to achieve without having a valid MSM account, as @hackslash referred to? In that case i will message you soon to do it remotely, just like you wrote my schedule is also messed up.

I mean this being referred to. If it turns out to require a new MSM account to get ahead, no matter if that becomes clear now or after an attempted flash with evilhawk remotely - i will do my best to be on top of the discussions in order to spot the availability of a new account on time to offer my device for remote EDL process, so it wont expire again without anyone stepping in.

How does a new account arrive anyways.. requires a leaker yet again? In that case, by chance, you know anyone that can set us up, @OppoTech123 ?
[OnePlus 10 Pro] evilhawk00:
It is confirmed that it requires an MSM account with .ofp firmware. The door is locked here and confirmed.

It is still unknown if it requires an MSM account with Non-Encrypted firmware. There're chances that the lock only exists on the .ofp file. The door is locked or not no one knows until someone tries to open it. If this door is locked, I might stop here.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] mxz55:
Ok, let's find out.. my timezone is CEST and it's 11.55am now. Tomorrow after 8pm my time i will send you a private message and we can get started with EDL flash attempt whenever it suits you in the ~ 8 hours after that time.
[OnePlus 10 Pro] zopostyle:
I'm able to test also, I have a 10 pro bricked.