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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] boboduck:
Looks like a great utility.

Question : All it does is switch on the wifi? One still has to go through the login (for security enabled wifi) or other access means as defined at the particular hotspot ??

Btw, here is the site of a PC program that behaves more or less similarly. Perhaps useful for ideas ???

http://wifihopper.com/

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
I think you're not getting the point of my application, it uses your Cell-position to activate your wifi. So you save battery and your voip protocol can be activated whenever you get to your home(or other)-cell... The wifi-profiles can be created through any wireless profile manager!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
This should be solved now...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
Nice app...I have a request that although probably not used by alot of folks it seems like a simple enhancement in "concept"....can you add the option to enable/disable BLUETOOTH instead of wifi based on location? I tether my phone to my house alot and use it as the internet feed...it would be nice if when I got to the home location it auto linked up with the pc and gave it internet without me having to think about it..the process seems the same. Am I off base?

Hmm upon further study it's not that simple...I'd also need to still run the internet sharing app...so perhaps not so simple. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@famewolf, I'll take a look at it. Never worked with bluetooth before, but I don't think it's much work.

I just created the application for personal use, because I tend to use voip a lot. I posted it here so so everybody could use it if they want to.

About the feature you request, you want bluetooth to be activated or does it need more functionality?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
Well after thinking on it more it would take more than just activating bluetooth...would also need to be able to run a program when bluetooth was enabled so I'll just be thankful for what you provided. Your program will come in very handy when visiting my relatives...the cell reception in their house is crappy and I always end up enabling wifi and logging onto their router when in house to get email etc....will use your program to auto enable it.

Of use to people who "dabble" in voip....you can use fring and grandcentral to get a "free incoming" phone # that uses voip...and the new idialer allows grandcentral out calls as well....this would potentially works well with these apps...hmmm perhaps you SHOULD consider allowing the user to execute an app when wifi comes up or down so they can run whatever sip client they are using?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@famewolf, I think what you mention can be very interesting. I know that starting another app isn't a big problem. Working on the hiding of the form and autostarting now. Will add the functionality to start an app lateron.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
Download new version, now includes working start-at-boot-mode and auto hiding the form. I want to change the complete set-up because it wasn't designed properly.... some other time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twcook:
I downloaded the current version; on my Sprint Touch Pro, it doesn't seem to see cell ids although it does seem able to turn on/off the wifi successfully.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nmeister:
good program. looks like the makings to the 'locale' program for android. If you added some volume profiles that would automatically switch you would be set. It would be nice to have my phone mute itself when i got to work and turn the volume back on when i left for home.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] paranoid2007:
This program ist simply brilliant. If have been looking for something like this for a long time and programs like this one are the reason, I never got an Iphone.

One question though: your program seems to keep the Wifi connection alive all the time. Is it possible to add an option to have it running in powersave mode (i. e. power down in suspend mode)?

EDIT: Sorry to bother you. The behavior of the wifi energy save features has nothing to with your neat program. For some reason my wifi was hanging. It seems, I still have to get accustomed to my Touch HD (or the firmware bugs).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@twcook, I think that's because you're not on a gsm/umts network, I really don't have a clue how to solve that yet. I'll put it on the todolist. If anyone has information on how to get other that gsm/umts-cells let me know.

@nmeister, good one, put that on the todolist as well. But I won't be working on it a lot this weekend, got other plans.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] karaern:
tnx man, the program is perfectly working on tytn ii, its amazing. never need to touch comm manager for wifi...:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DoubleD:
cool tool - can provide bluetooth support as well?

Hi snempaa,

do you think you can provide it with bluetooth support as well?

Just turn bluetooth on or off!

My hands-free in the car is connecting by bluetooth! so it would be good if the tool turns on my bluetooth if I leave my house.

Thanks and Cheers

DD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] idbl_fanatic:
But it would shut off your bluetooth when you left the area (out of the cell site range)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
Unless you had a "reverse on/off behavior" switch of some sort in settings..which would make it "leave bluetooth on everywhere EXCEPT these id's...."
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bruceo:
My situation is when i am at home my cell and data signal are weak or nonexistent so in turn it chews up my battery to less than an hour of capacity, so I use Modaco Nodata to toggle the data off. If I use comm manager it doesnt work because if I turn off data in comm manager as soon as a program tryies to access data it comes right back on.

So I would think a killer app would be to have configs for wifi & data toggling on and off based on location, which would greatly extend battery life. It really sucks when you forget to toggle off data in a weak signal area and in 30 minutes you are getting a low battery warnining and dont have a charger...

I presume this is currently not for CDMA phones like the touch pro?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
If he adds the function to run a program when entering/leaving a zone most of these tasks can be handled via third party tasks...you could easily call a mortscript or even nodata etc with command line parms etc....doubt he will support cdma unless you can tell him exactly how to identify your cell id's...he can't very well do that when he's on gsm I wouldn't think. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Orbitter2:
Hi, it's a very very good progy, but if I set my OrbitII into suspendmode (standby) and switch in on again, it seems that WiFi isn't switch off, is it?

Could you please correct this, or spend a feature to prevent Wifi in suspend/standby mode? I need the akku power a little bit longer ... ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@Orbitter2, I'll take a look at this, but want I wanted to use it for in the first place was voip, so I'd also be able to receive calls when my phone is in standby mode, but I'll try to add th eoption... probably will work on it tomorrow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gormac:
Nice one!

thanks for sharing this. downloaded it tonight. will test it this week.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hkr:
Great tool!

I would like to see Bluetooth support as well ...

A site, to get some ideas:

http://www.commmgrpro.com/

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] renton84uk:
hi, this looks like the start of a nice app.

thanks for sharing.

I was wondering what the interval option does?

It would be handy to be able to set a schedule to this aswell, but sounds like alot of work i guess.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
New version! Please download and update (don't need to delete first version, but you do need to add functionalities to a cell using the 'edit cell' button).

Now supports bluetooth, ringeroptions and userdefined programs @ entering location.

Please report bugs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
Another quick update, got rid of a stupid bug that slowed down the device a bit because the interval settings wasn't updated right when returning from a cell-edit.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iknowsquat:
CDMA?

Do I understand correctly that this app will not recognize CDMA (Sprint) cell sites? If so, how 'bout a CDMA version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@winmonewbie, you're right and I'd love to support CDMA but I just don't know how to get the cellID! And I'm not able to test it since I'm in europe! need help on this one!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Riekr:
great tool, 10x :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beren:
seems nobody has the same problem...

when i tap on "add current cell-id" in above list appears "NA/REQ-NA/REQ"

it's the same on 0.1 and 0.2 version...

..add cell-id's for 60 seconds doesn't help

what is the matter?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gormac:
can I install v0.2 over v0.1 or do I need to uninstall v0.1 first? thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
This is also in the first post;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@beren, what device do you use? On what network are you using it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] renton84uk:
hi,

does anyone understand what the interval option does?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
Should have included that in the help-popup. Or better I should make the app more clear, but it is the interval to check if the cell-id has changed. Default once a minute it quickly checks if your location has changed.

I'm asking anyone who'd like to give the app a new design to come forward because I'm not really a designer as you can see;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] idfake2000:
I tried it here in Bulgaria and it works great - thank you for this great application.

And I quite like the current design to be honest - clean and simple :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] idfake2000:
Cell Labels

After some time using it there is an idea - maybe you can put the option for labeling cells(@work, etc) and also to see which is the active cell ?

Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
Yeah I've been thinking about the naming of cells as well as it could get rather confusing right now. I'll add it tonight, when I get home.

I'll also make is show the current associated cell, that's an easy one;)!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
I've added the current-cell functionality in a small break here, two lines of code;) Simple new help screen as well, which include a direct link to this page, for people who downloaded it from another source. So get v0.4!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HansZimmer:
Battery

Hi,

Thank you for the great tool. One problem: I use the version 0.1 and it seems that the battery goes down after hours on my Diamond... Is Wifi ALWAYS on with your tool, even in standby mode ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@HansZimmer, try the new version, it should include an option to activate/deactivate wifi in sleep mode. Let me know if it works, because I didn't test it jet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tirmis:
when click on the "Add current cell*id" button " ERROR-ERROR" appears in the list. I am trying to use the application in Turkey with the carrier "Turkcell"

What might be the problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
What device are you using?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tirmis:
Asus P535 wm6.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beren:
i'm using LG KS20, wm6 original rom.

my provider is Wind Italy and there is no difference about the network gsm/umts/hsdpa...always the same problem

really hope can fix, cos i'd like to use you app...it's cool:)

i'll try last release but don't thing will be different..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
V0.5 : -Naming your Cell's
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@tirmis@beren, It is probably because a native dll (ril.dll) isn't completed on your device. The sollution is trying to update it, but this is very hard and with the original rom I think it's impossible. Anyway you should be carefull.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tirmis:
I've just downloaded v0.5, still the same problem. maybe it is because of that dll file, I don't know. Is there a way around changing the dll file without changing the rom? I'll keep trying as you make updates, thanks anyway.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] beren:
i understand....

is it possible to upgrade this dll just overwriting the file?i mean if i take it from a newer rom? (there is a thread on xda for my mobile-phone)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jrjmpls:
Help

I've installed wifilocations. I click on the 60 second walk around button and I get a message saying cell sites have been added. But there are no sites in the list. What am I doing wrong?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
Try to restart the program, I'll try to fix it lateron...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
Are you on a CDMA network? The software isn't compatible then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
hey =) I've installed 0.5 now...

- Changing the sound to silence when I come into work-cell works fine - but its not possible to change it automatic to louder again, when I leave it =(

- I renamed a cell (found by an older version) to Home01. After that I searched for new cells again. Than I had "012345-012345,Home01" AND "012345-012345,NoName". Now I deleted all old cells and that bug gone away.

- I got Cells called "Timeout-Timeout" and "ERROR-ERROR" again.

- What will happen when I have no cell-connection for a short time? I think the best would be that the last active wifi/sound status will stay?!

- "- WifiLocations 0.1" AND "- WifiLocations 0.5" are in the application overview now!? Deinstalling 0.1 deletes 0.5 as well

- application was installed in the phone-memory even if I chose the intern-memory at the installation
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@Phil82de, Thanks for the good feedback, I totally forgot about the reconfiguring of the ringertypes when leaving the cells! About the cell-duplicates, I didn't know it was possible but I know a way to fix that.

I got the timeout cell's myself as well in this version, don't know where they come from it's probably because of a change I made in the code.

The duplicate entries in the application overview had come to my attention as well, will fix this as well in the next version.

In the last part of your message you probably mean when you install in on your memorycard,. I think this is because of the lack of knowledge about making cab-files;) The is one of the first apps i've made into a cab-file, so I have to get into that as well, but it won't be on top of my list.

I won't be able to work on it tonight, cause I have other plans, but I'll release an update before I'm off to Moscow this weekend! Anybody who can spare an Moscow-prepaid-simcard, please let me know!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] djcedric:
really nice!!!thanks dude:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
again @Phil82de, I think I fixed all of the issues accept for the duplicate cells in the list because I really can't reproduce the bug!

Also the installing to storagecard isn't working if it wasnt working because I didn't take a look at it!

Will upload it in a minute.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gormac:
Just installed v0.6 and will do some testing today. At home my touch hd seems to be constantly changing between 3 cells.

Question: Are settings only changed when entering or leaving a cell? If I set the wifi option to 'off' for my current cell it won't turn off (and bluetooth won't turn on)? I thought that was what the interval was for. What happens when I stay in a cell, but change options?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nick_martin:
How can you keep connected to WIFI without draining the battery?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hanackin:
hi!

This sowtware looks really good :D

Is it possible to get any screen shot ? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Orbitter2:
Many thanks for implement the option to stop WiFi at standby!

Another request or better another feature to think about:

In my region, the cells coverage a very lage area. So my wifi only swithed off 2km away from home. Is it possible to combine the cells the progy detect and swith wifi only on and off, if all this cells are in an operating distance. Maybe you can find out the strangth of the collected cells and define a percent discrepancy where the position is valid. Maybe the position is only valid if all collected cells are in operating distance. So if cells could be combine under a name of a position you can reach this goal. :cool:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gormac:
[v0.6]

Current cell info doesn't seem to refresh when I keep the application open. I opened WifiLocations in the basement at work (no radio signal), so current cell info is empty. I move upstairs and get a radio signal again, but current cell info remains empty. When clicking 'add current cell-id' I get a 'location allready exists' message, so WifiLocations is aware of the new cell-id. Only choosing 'Stop and Exit' and restarting WifiLocations refreshes the interface.

Maybe WifiLocations could refresh the info at the interval rate or there could be a dedicated button to refresh the info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
hey! I tested 0.5 last night and got a few big errors. Don't know if its already fixed in 0.6 but I wanted to write down before testing the newer version now.

- I wondered why the battery gone emty over night in 0.5 (I think it was already the same with 0.2) and noticed that the Wifi was on even in telefone-standby. But this on-in-standby-option was never marked. That problem gone away after some soft-resets.

- I collected cells at work today again after deleting all cells last night. I wondered why the silence-option worked but my wifi is not active. (Strange - why is one changed, and not the other?) Than I noticed that the active cell was "ERROR - ERROR" all the time. Can this happen becose the application runs twice? Once from autostart and one time by start over program-menu for change the settings? I guess that becose when I open wifilocations over program-menu after it already runs from autostart I see this ERROR-Cell very often. When I stop and exit it than and run again the right Cell is found.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
@gormac, if you stay in a cell but edit the options they will be obeyed after the interval indeed. But if the software didn't turn on wifi because you had already turned it on yourself, it also will not turn it off when leaving a cell. That's the same with BT/applications.

@nick_martin, there is a switch in the software to keep wifi on in standby mode, but I think I got it configured the wrong way, so try to check it and see if it works. If not, let me know, I'll try to fix it.

@hanackin, good idea, will post them today.

@Orbitter2, sorry but that's impossible. Would like to implement that but it's impossible in WindowsMobile phones to get all the found cells, you can only read out the one you're connected with. By the way, did the wifi in standby mode work?

@gormac, that's true it's only updated when the form in constructed, so I'll change that so it will be updated after any button is pressed or something like that.

@Phil82de, I think the wifi in standby mode is implemented the otherway around, so please try that and I'll change it. If it just doesn't work let me know. The application is not running twice, because at startup, the form is just hidden and when you run the application this same form is shown. I think it could be the fact that when it's running and you enter the application it'll try to access the Cell-ID to show the current location, but in the background a thread is also running to manage your cells/settings. I'll try to fix this so that I'll read the last known location from the other thread.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gormac:
Ok. Seems to work this way indeed.

Thanks in advance!

The 'wifi on in sleep mode' option doesn't seem to work at all on my touch hd. Wifi was turned on by wifilocations, but putting my touch hd in sleep mode seems te keep the wifi connection alive. When I turn on the display again the wifi connection is active allready and doesn't seem to be connecting.

I don't have the errors Phil82de has, but if I disable touchflo 3d and look at the home screen I see 2 wifilocation icons in the bottom right corner (system tray?). The wifilocations interface is not open. I don't know if this means wifilocations runs twice. Pressing one of the icons does nothing. It seems that if I close the wifilocations interface with the 'x' in the top right corner the icon doesn't disappear. Every start and close with 'x' of wifilocations adds another icon to the system tray. I now have 4... ehh... 5 icons in my tray. I think something needs a little work... :D I think 'x' should do the same as 'Stop and exit', no?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
hmm, I don't think the standby mode is implemented 'the otherway around'.

I installed 0.6 now and wifi was on in standby than. I made a softreset of my phone again and now wifi is of in standby - but even when I mark "wifi-on-in-sleep" than! It don't take effect on my phone now.

(I personally wouldn't really need this option for myself as long wifi is of in standby and don't use power)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hanackin:
big thanks!!!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henkace:
thnx nice app for lazy ppl :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tirmis:
hi there,

i found something about editing the ril.dll file but since I don't know about programming I don't know what I've found or if it is usefull.

you might wanna check it for:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa919118.aspx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phil82de:
sometimes its not changing the wifi-status in 0.6.

Perhaps because of two strange status messages I got: "current cell : " and "Only Numbers please". Both messages don't appear at the next time after pressing "stop and exit" and restarted the application

(@snempaa: Thank You for so much work You put into this project!!)

Edit 23:59: I think its perhaps something wrong with the autostart. I made a softreset again (because of the wifi-on-at-sllep-problem, but this time it dosn't helped). After booting wifi was disabled, cell ID was " : ". All until I stopped and restarted the application, then it got a right cell ID and wifi connects.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Hi Snempaa,

I really like your program! I also like that your so enthusiastic about improving it further and that you are so fast in doing it ;-)

But your speed is also why I wanted to ask if you could add support for AppToDate to easily stay up to date with your improvements?

Thanks :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] or8it:
Hi Snempaa,

I've been using your app on my Touch HD and think its great. I've got a suggestion on a feature I'd like to see. As well as turning wifi on in a given cell location could it also turn off the data connection. When I've got wifi on I dont need my data connection (3G function) active.

Keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] karaern:
some problem

strange but still think that v0.1 is working best! on v0.6 bluetooth is not activated on the spot and sometimes the wifi is not swithcing too. maybe because the name of the cell is not occuring...

anyway the program is so usefull
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nick_martin:
How can I put in user name and pwd automatically when wifi is connected. In my school, there is security like this, so is there any way?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] karaern:
name problems

woth v0.6 i have some problems! i have made a search and located the cell then name it, after this the problem started:

1. bluetooth is not activated, nor deactivated

2. wifi is not starting, mainly the program is not responding!

v0.1 doesnt have such name things and was working fine (with all bugs) but still working. after this name implementation i think things are messed up.

any help?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] snempaa:
I'm back from my trip to Moscow, so I'll be working on the project again from tonight after work if I don't fall asleep!