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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
I was thinking about it but given the only real change is going to be Tensor 2 personally i cant see the point unless it is massively better. Yeah my P6P get hot sometimes but i remember my Nexus 4 hitting 48c so that's nothing new and the battery gets me through the day even on Android 13.

I guess it depends on how good Googles hype is really.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ricardo_G:
I`ll change to P7P when google decide left to treat the final buyer like beta tester
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
No way in hell. This phone is bad as it already is. I have always been an Android guy. My first iPhone was the iPhone 8, then the iPhone X and I think this time I'm going for the iPhone 14 Max Pro to switch it around. I get horrible connection even when I'm on 5G. And sometimes it is a big sluggish. I would get the 7 Pro if only they changed the chip and the old Samsung modem. Other than that, it is like starting all over again. But I'll switch to Android when something better comes along.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] lottarake:
I'm considering it, but I will wait after it's been out for a few months for some updates to roll out before buying one. I use Swappa primarily to save some, so I'll mostly likely go that route once some are floating around. It's between the P7P and Zenfone 9 right now with a wavering interest in the Flip4, but the lack of rooting will most likely turn me away from Samsung.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] rhetorician:
Sounds like you're more of an ios guy
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
Nope. I'll wait until next year and unless there is a major improvement in battery life on the 9, or some other amazing Android phone, I'll probably finally go back to the iPhone Max - I've been envious of its battery life the whole time I've owned my P6P.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
After owning 20 Android phones and only 2 Iphones makes me an iOS guy? 🤣
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
see no reason to change from the 6pro yet. if the 8 isn't much of a change either I may look at whatever folding devices are around at the time. I like the look of the Xiaomi fold but every folding phone I've played with I just couldn't live with the creases. hopefully that will be better in a couple years
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I'll be going back to Apple for a bit, to see what the hype is about. I used to have Apple phones for years, then switched over from my 6S to Android when the first Pixel and Pixel 2 came out. I loved those phones, never had a big issue with them. I thought the camera and OS were great at the time; I took so many great photos.

In all those years I held onto my 2XL until the P6P came out, and I was really disappointed with the front selfie camera, battery life and overheating issues for the tiniest things. I simply cannot charge the phone to 100% and have it last long enough to enjoy it. Even on days where I hardly touch it, I can lose 30% just from idling which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Trust when I say I've fiddled with just about everything, and to be honest I really shouldn't have to.

I pre-ordered the iPhone 14 Pro Max and will give it a go while Google (hopefully) gets their game together. I could just go the Samsung route, but seeing and reading what they do to their phones, I'd rather not deal with that headache.

I will miss the infinite ways of customization that Android has over Apple, but I'll learn to manage. I know jailbreaking is a thing, but I think even that is getting harder to do and there's probably less 3rd party apps being developed for it nowadays.

I will be keeping my P6P just in case I decide I can't deal with Apple (again, lol), and will still give it occasional updates and use it as a side device for gaming, or when I need it for something specific. I'll still be around, though.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] nds850:
I have also pre-ordered an iPhone 14 Pro Max. Will keep the 6 Pro.

Still looking forward to see what the Pixel 7 Pro will be like.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] gpvecchi:
Still debated: selling the phone after 1 year is an economical deal, but I think that 7 is uglier. it looks more cheap.

I don't care about processor, the camera is the same, I hope the fingerprint reader is a little better. Let's wait for specific functions.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I'm the same way too. I also pre-ordered the iPhone 14 Pro Max in purple. There are some customizations that you can do with IOS16 like shortcuts, and the color widgets, etc. I won't be keeping my P6P. I hate the curved screen. I can deal with Apple and get used to it. I will stay with the iPhone 14 till something better comes along. Lets see what next year brings. If you are getting the new iPhone 14, just make sure you get the Apple wall charger USB C and the cable, or else you you will be stuck with the slow Lighting USB 2.0
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] sronweb:
I don't think I will upgrade. As I see there will be few differences, it will be still a flat screen. Also i switched from Oneplus 6T to Pixel 6 Pro mainly for the better camera quality and the sensor on P7 will be basically the same, so no real improvement for me.

I typically keep the phone for 3 years as average and money does not fall from the trees :)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] galaxys:
Nope, no interest in 7 after having 6 Pro...📱🎲🌠
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] itiskonrad:
From everything I've read, the hardware differences between the 6 pro and the 7 pro are:

1. Faster Tensor 2 processor in the 7 pro

2. New modem in the 7 pro

3. Identical camera hardware front and back between both with ONE exception: technically a slightly *worse* telescopic camera in the 7 pro (Sony imx586 in 6 pro vs Samsung gm1 in 7 pro)

1. I don't need a faster processor

2. With the latest software updates, my phone actually holds pretty decent connection (and even if it didn't, I'd need to see strong evidence another Samsung modem wouldn't be just as bad)

3. Why would I pay for a worse camera?

So, short of Google pulling some Apple bull and withholding software advances from the 6 pro even though it can technically handle them just as well as the 7 pro hardware-wise (like face unlock), I'm not seeing a compelling reason to upgrade.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Tcukcufc:
It hasn't helped the battery life on mine one bit. Since android 13 it's been terrible and no different with the update.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Well, no one bought the P6/P for a terrible modem, yet here we are lol. The fact that Google continues to downgrade hardware on new devices is upsetting, and one of the few reasons why I'm switching over to Apple. How are you going to sell a premium phone, yet downgrade parts that don't perform well?

Yo, the purple color looks really nice! I always stay with the classic colors though and ordered a black one. If my phone wasn't always in a case I'd get purple, but sometimes I have butterfingers and don't wanna mess it up!

I saw the shortcut trick which might help, but I'll see about jailbreaking on iOS 16 when it's out, though I'm sure it'll be a while. I hate the curved screen too, drives me nuts trying to touch certain parts of the screen and it doesn't work.

I do have a wall charger that I got for free when I ordered a case from Spigen; it's a 30w USB-C type, so I should be fine. I'm glad others are venturing over to Apple 🍎
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I don't use a case on all my phones. That's why I pay insurance for it. I'm happy that AppleCare offers the infinite replacement so I could break my phone 5 times in less than a year and not get charged for it. This will be my third iPhone. My first one was the iPhone 8 Plus then the iPhone X. I will miss a lot of things on Android for sure. But this is only temporary. Samsung and Google need to come up with something better.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] p51d007:
Unless they give me 1/2 to 3/4 off for a trade in, NOPE
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] swieder711:
If it has a better modem then my P6P then I will upgrade.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] HipKat:
Yeah same issue here and do NOT let this sit in the sun while it's charging.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] thunderstruck!:
I use a vent mount for my phone (3XL) for the drive home so it stays nice and cool and charges quicker.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zetsumeikuro:
If there is a good preorder deal and trade in value for my p6p I'll do it. Otherwise it'll be a hard skip until the 8 comes out.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
No, Tensor 2 is built on Samsung's 4nm node which has been found to be poor with the SD8 Gen 1 and Exynos 2200(Qualcomm even changing to TSMC). Tensor 2 is likely to be another inefficient SOC.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Google might offer the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro in just two storage configurations

A new leak suggests that Google might offer limited storage variants of the Pixel 7 series. Read on to learn more.

www.xda-developers.com

I definitely wouldn't be moving on to another phone from my Pixel 6 Pro 512 GB model unless it either had 512 GB or more storage, or a MicroSD slot.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] tonyfiore75:
Not having my phone reboot on its own every night would be a nice change, lol.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] danw_oz:
I wish it was that easy mine has the air con blowing up on it, won't be as much as your vent one but mine still over heats
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ghisy:
I got my P6P in France and we only got the black model in 128 GB. That's it. I really wanted a 256 but didn't want to import from Germany or the UK because $$$!

Even the employees at the Manhattan Google Store were surprised when I told them! 😅
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
For what it's worth...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570090881935642624
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Suggest reading this whole thread...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1570910682878709762
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] thunderstruck!:
Is it worth cancelling the 6 I have coming tomorrow and waiting?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
I really can't answer that. It's really a personal decision based on many factors. If you're asking if the 7 will be an improvement over the 6, it likely will be in some aspects, but the improvements may be minor.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Misterxtc:
Seeing that I just got the P6P yesterday I will definitely NOT be upgrading. My last Pixel was the 4XL before I went back to a locked down S21U so this is a huge improvement for me. My only complaint so far is me sticking my finger on the rear camera. I have to run this a few days to comment on the battery but I'm not expecting it to be better than the S21 or Moto G Power 2022 I have as a backup.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Tulsadiver:
Good to see you, @Misterxtc !

Have you upgraded to Android 13 yet? If you haven't and are considering rooting, you might want to hold off depending on what and how you are looking at modifying it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Misterxtc:
Good to see you as well. I pretty much went to 13 out of the box after I unlocked the BL. I was reading 13 fixed a lot of bugs in 12 so I figured might as well go for it. So far I'm happy with it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Tulsadiver:
I'm glad you like it!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
More reasons for not worth upgrading
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Yep. How can Google call it V2 when it's basically the same thing as before? They're starting to annoy me in the way Apple used to, and I actually switched back because they can actually make a phone that's efficient in terms of power and battery lol. I will miss customizing, but I'll learn to manage.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
More reasons for not worth upgrading

Exactly. I went back to iPhone too and I also miss the customizations but Apple is slowing letting us customize our phones with the new ios16.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] card13:
Honestly I have no intention of getting the 7. Starting with OPO my family got in the habit of waiting 2 Gens before upgrading. That usually included just enough of an increase in specs to justify the high cost of upgrading. None of us are gamers or do anything crazy with our phones (the only exception is my stepmom, she loves to take pics for Social Media), so the incremental upgrades just don't make any sense. The only exception to this has been OP8T to P6P (if I had followed the trend then P7P would have been my first Pixel), but that was because I got tired of OnePlus playing games with their firmware and kernel source code.

As for switching to Apple or Samsung, the only reason I don't is I hate being told that even-though I payed good money for something, that I'm not authorized to make any modifications or repairs, to me that is horses*** and just feeds the planned obsolescence beast.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
I won't be, but I will be purchasing one -- for my wife.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
Another disappointment. At this point, just go with a different phone.

https://wccftech.com/tensor-g2-running-in-pixel-7-pro-performs-worse-than-snapdragon-888/
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Nestacres76:
Having gone from S21 ultra to Pixel 6 Pro the difference in speed in day to day use is negliable. As long as the modem is an improvement and the phone gets less hot (which should be helped by the more efficient processor) I will probably upgrade.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
Yea I would not call this an "upgrade". The Tensor G2 gets beat by a chip from 2021 and cannot compete with today's new flagships is a joke. Not only that, but the P7P will have the same camera specs as last year's. Same outdated curved screen. I mean this is a huge disappointment from Google's part. I understand the pixel lines are mid-range phones but cmon.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Nestacres76:
The P6P camera is amazing (zoom could be better though) so not really that bothered if it's the same in the P7P. If its priced the same way as last year - ie £300 less than Samsung i think it'll represent a good deal for what it is, although not really flagship.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
The problem Google has is living in the past. They're using outdated parts, and even downgrading them in new phones. How can they call their Tensor 2 chip "new"? I think I read they're even changing the camera lens to something other than Sony. I'll gladly use a different brand of phone that works better and doesn't overheat just from browsing the web lul
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] gpvecchi:
I read somewhere that the sh***y curved screen of the 7 will have lesss radius, is it true?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Shipoftheline:
Main camera sensor is the same and the ultrawide is said to be lower quality (cheaper) so I don't see a point in downgrading
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Guyinlaca:
The specs show the Pixel 7 Pro being 3.02" wide vs the Pixel 6 Pro at 2.99", so it's entirely possible they're flattening it out a bit but I doubt that'd be a huge difference.

An improved modem, faster charging speeds, and a screen on par with the S22 Ultra would make it enticing.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] spotmark:
I guess I lied about waiting for the Fold5 or the Pixel Fold. After doing more, and more, and MORE, research, I decided that the Fold4 is ready for prime time. Along with the overinflated trade-in deals they're giving, I couldn't resist. My Fold4 will be here tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] memocatcher:
I just hope the Pixel 7/Pro will have a faster charging support, at least something like 80 Watt, like come on...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] DAC.IT:
Ive no intention of buying new , i let everyone else shell out $$thousands find there phones are worth the flag ship money, but i am interested in this idea , im not sure how this could be done ? where are the pads placed ? because there is limited room , yet there are numerous chips that emits alot of heat its not just the cpu
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] LLStarks:
It won't. There's been zero evidence.

Latest Pixel 7 leak points to 30W again. Not sure if 23W or proper 30W this time. Maybe the Pro still has a surprise but I doubt it.

OEMs really don't go above 45W without proprietary charging solutions.

It looks noticeably less curved but may not be enough to convince me to get one over a 7.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] memocatcher:
Damn might be a no deal for me then. As much as I wanted to try out a Pixel phone for the first time. I got so used to OnePlus' fast charging the last few years, can't imagine anything slower than 45 watt anymore.

Motorola Edge 30 Ultra looks more promising then (besides the camera) :/
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] domhall012N8:
If this thing doesn't at least come with a 512gb of storage option, after not even having an SD option... I will NEVER EVEN CONSIDER it!!! Was the only reason I even elected to try the P6P in the first place...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] awarman:
Are we the same person? 😁😁
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
They "support" secure face unlock, but will it actually have it is the question. Haven't seen anything mentioned so far about it having the hardware to support it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575497393776099329
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] LLStarks:
Google cloud storage ended my need for physical storage.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] XH1987:
I don't think there's much of an upgrade here to warrant going from a 6 to 7 series. The only thing I would be curious about is how well battery life is under the Tensor G2, as I know when I had the 6 Pro, the battery wasn't really good.

Additionally, Google isn't one to really switch up their camera hardware for a considerable time, and if they do it's minor changes. If people didn't buy the 6 last year, and the 7 proves to have to some solid refinements, then maybe it would be an upgrade to people coming from older pixels, keyword maybe.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] itiskonrad:
It would, but atrocious modem + cloud storage ≠ viable solution for me
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] BigDaddy86x:
Yeah yeah someone paid for it yes if someone paid for it
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] domhall012N8:
Yeah... I get that there are several cloud storage solutions... For some reason... I just can't bring myself to not have "positive control" of those things that I am accustomed to having positive control of...

It also seems we are, continuously being asked to pay more, for less... Although, one can not argue, the P6/7P, is not really intended to match all other "flagship" devices, maybe?!?! Not at such a lower price point, comparably...

Just on principle alone, I was really looking at the Sony Xperia 1 IV, flag-ship specs, SD card, headphone jack, etc... But it's price is ridiculous... And has some issues, for which, all phone have "some" issues I guess...

Purchased a 512gb P6P to test and root and such, tho the kid has since taken that one, with a $200 discount and event that discount is no longer available...

Looks like I might be holding on to the Note 20 Ultra a bit longer... But I am fiending for a stable "root and tweak phone" again!!!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zymphad:
Still deciding whether to go P 7 Pro or not but this has been the worst phone I used in a while. I thought OnePlus 9 was disappointing, but this Pixel 6 Pro just been rubbish.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] NippleSauce:
I have said that I won't be "upgrading" to the P7 before, however, I may change my mind if the modem is changed (and thus is improved drastically) and if there are good trade in prices.

If that is the case, then I'll trade in my P6P for a P7 standard and it would essentially be either free or around one-hundo before tax 🤔

*Edit* - Random update: it turns out that the P7P will be able to take macro shots! Unfortunately, the P7 standard will not be able to... This makes me want to hold my breath and wait for the P8 series =(
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] b0uNz:
trade in price maximum 350€ in germany
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] LLStarks:
If the latest leak fine print is correct, the charging speeds are unchanged. That sucks.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1576524692743389184
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
It doesn’t make much sense for them to up the charging speed if they’re not changing anything else. Even their tensor processor is labeled as V2 when it's still the same. It'll just be another letdown of a phone.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ghisy:
Pixel 7 series specs have leaked! https://9to5google.com/2022/10/02/pixel-7-spec-sheet/

Don't know if this is worth an upgrade from the 6 Pro, unless Google does a spectacular trade-in program in Europe. Do they here though?

Edit: pre-orders in Europe for the 7 Pro might include a free Pixel Watch! WHAT?! (not confirmed yet but dang!)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] diesteldorf:
I skipped the Pixel 5 when they didn't release a PRO model, so upgrading from the Pixel 4XL to the Pixel 6 Pro was well worth it.

I am still thinking about upgrading to the Pixel 7 Pro, if the signal connectivity is more reliable, AND if it has some decent preorder incentives, but I was bummed when I saw the released internal storage options.

I was happy to pay extra for the 6 Pro 512 GB option, but it looks like the 7 Pro may max out at 256 GB.

This may not matter for most people, but it's a big reason why I may choose to keep my 6 Pro another year.

I'm a little surprised Google didn't maintain the status quo and keep the same options this year, but maybe the 512 GB option sold poorly compared to the other options.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] scott.hart.bti:
So now that nearly all the details have been leaked (Google's terrible at surprises), I legit don't understand why anyone in their right mind would upgrade from a 6 to 7? The changes are soooo very minimal. The "tensor g2" which seems to be the biggest selling point, test at 10 percent performance over the original tensor, which won't be noticable in any way. Again, it's all but identical except very very minor changes. Maybe If you have a pixel 4 or 5, then def upgrade. But if you upgrade from a 6 to 7, you need a serious psych exam.

I mean seriously.... Is there maybe something I just missed? They should've just called it the pixel 6.2. this is a dud from Google.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
I do like the sound of the 5x optical zoom and the 30x super res but overall there isn't enough to make me jump.

I couldn't give a toss about face unlock that's for sure.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Nestacres76:
In my view an improved modem with the camera imporvements and if its bundled with the pixel watch would justify the upgrade from P6P
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Sigray:
P7 Pro samples. Same quality as the P6P.

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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] memocatcher:
So the 7 Pro gets offered with 12 GB RAM but only 128 GB storage?! Wtf? What kind of stupid variation is that?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] LLStarks:
There's a 256 GB version.

So much misinfo and disinfo in here.

New CPU, new GPU, new front cameras, new modem, tweaked rear cameras, etc. This is a NEW phone despite all the whining and suggesting otherwise.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] memocatcher:
Yeah but it starts with a price of 899€ for the 128GB/12GB version. It's just a weird thing. Why would you do that? Isn't 899€ expensive enough already? Could have made it 256 GB for that price. Really not keen on paying possibly 80-100€ more just for the 256 GB.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] jmartin72:
I've had every flagship Pixel to date. I don't see any reason to stop now.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] gpvecchi:
There's one thing I can't stand: I can understand the hardware differences, but I can't stand the exclusive features the Pixel 7 will get over the 6. The hardware is perfectly capable of supporting them, not extend them to older phones is merely a commercial thing. I I wanted this s**t, I would have bought an iPhone.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stroke55:
Really? The P6P 12/256 started at 999€ last year. It would be more than fair if the price for the P7P stays at 999€, because Google would take the whole currency loss (ca. -16%) from the much weaker € agaist the US$ - net of tax this would be a loss of around 160$ per device! So maybe you reconsider your complaining again...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
New CPU - Sure, still underperforms the new flagships.

New GPU - Don't care. Unless you spend your day playing games on your phone

New front camera - Where do you read that? It is still the same as the P6P..

Tweaked rear camera - Ok? Still uses the same sensor.

New modem - We still have to test it in real life.

Yeah. Nice try. But Google ain't gonna fool people into thinking this is a whole new phone because it is not..