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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TehPenguin:
I've said it before in this thread, but I'll say it again:

There are no legal grounds for any complaints

Unlike with the Kaiser, HTC did not advertise the speed or multimedia capabilities of this phone. The only thing that they say is fast is the HSDPA connection.

(Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, and above is not legal advise)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nuke1:
I would argue that it is advice of a legal nature, hence it is legal advice :D.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 83jb:
Tried to delete this post, apparently can't.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
my $.02. First, the disclaimer: I'm not using the stock AT&T ROM (duh!) but rather a derivative based on Da_G 2.01. I don't believe in "the cube" either. Given that...

Ex Tilt owners, try this:

scroll through programs. Night and day diff.

flip today screen from portrait to landscape. Night and day diff.

My verdict: The Tilt is no TP for sure; HTC has made great performance tweaks to this device. While not perfect, the graphics performance in day-to-day use on my fuze blows away my tilt.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] inq44:
I got a non-branded TP and the stock rom DOES run on d3dm_ati.dll. Can't really say that I find TF3D or any other "standard" app running sluggish; quite comparable if not superior in responsiveness with standard mobile handsets (e.g. non-WM devices).

However, movies DO play sluggish, skipping frames every 5-10 secs (depending on movie of course; some play acceptably well), which I find ridiculous even comparing to my old Fujitsu-Siemens N560 PDA...

Maybe I don't know all the facts, but I wonder if certain acceleration features on Imageon hardware don't have to be licensed by the handset/chipset manufacturer? Maybe Qualcomm or HTC decided AGAINST paying supplemental licensing fees to AMD in order to be allowed to ship devices with full hardware acceleration?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Hamstah:
So I'm still not sure I understand why some people seem to have endless issues playing video and the like on their TPs, while I (using coreplayer) have had not issue at all - the video playback is smooth, never skipping or going out of sync, never dropping frames (and I'm VERY sensitive to that sort of issue) and never lagging or feeling jerky at all.

I haven't tried the Quake 3 app yet, but I've tried CoD2 and that (aside from the jerky audio which is a little annoying) played very smoothly and I often use it to show off the graphical capabilities of my phone. Similarly, diamond hologram runs very smoothly on the device, and after running VSBenchmark 2007, I achieved a score of over 2500, which (from what I could see on their site) ranks rather high on the list.

So why is it that I'm not seeing much of an issue on my TP? Am I just ignorant of what its potential is, or is mine just doing something that others aren't?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dr g:
Likely this boils down to encoding, can you post your video properties?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Hamstah:
I've played many different XviD and DivX videos without any issues - I don't have direct access to my collection from the office, so I can't give you exact encoding info right now, but I can check later. Most of the videos I've played are in the region of 350MB in size and are mostly XviD encodes (as I record TV on my media centre at home, and then reencode into XviD for long term storage) but I've not had issues with any video that I've tried on the phone.

If you have a specific codec/bitrate that you'd like me to try I'd be happy to assist in whatever way I can :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DSF:
TehPenguin, but what about Touch HD? It's in the same situation as TOuch Pro. Also, It has the same audio output problems as touch pro & touch diamond (small brakes during playback). . May this be related to qualcomm chipset too?

SPB BENCHMARK - GRAPHICS

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5171/image219xil2.jpg

Photo source: CHIP special (Romanian magazine), dec 2008.

@Hamstah try this trailer http://rapidshare.de/files/41053549/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi.html

Use Core Player 1.2.5 with Qtv, High Quality, Smooth On. BEST FIT

My results: 77.99% in DD, 87.34% in Qtv.

Samsung Omnia: 134.21% (DD)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NuShrike:
We've only shown that the TP is maxed out at a level that is unacceptably par with ancient devices (albeit given TP's higher resolution) doing multimedia, but other non-Qualcomm devices have much more headroom to grow into.

This means less skipping, less transcoding, better multitasking, etc potential isn't available.

Here's a comparison of Diamond vs an obviously overpowered, ugly-looking, VGA, GPU-less ASUS P656 (VSBenchmark2007 4816 although) with a 800MHz PXA930:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/848619/+21 It is strange the Asus p552w using the same PXA930 @ 624MHz kills VSBenchmark2007 at 11K but that's probably the Graphics Index.

My bone-stock Fuze gets 2202 (gfxidx 1647). The Kaiser is 1427 (1235 gfxidx) for comparison.

Oh, and let's argue Wishmaster's belabored point that it can't possibly cheap: http://www.slashgear.com/asus-p565-800mhz-cpu-whips-rival-in-video-benchmarking-0825584/.

Looks comparable to Diamond's price.

Look at DSF's link, Omnia gets 6026 on VSBenchmark2007. Need more be said?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pandaboyy:
Althought I hate Iphone because so many people are using it... it's so sad to compare it with the touch pro (graphical wise)...

glbenchmark.com
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black6spdZ:
here's something interesting for you all to try with your coreplayer benchmarks... try converting the audio in your divx/xvid video to mono even at the same bitrate and rerun the CP benchmark.... explain the results on that!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] iRiKi:
so by you logic you drive an electric car and don't watch television, right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FF_Freak:
Internal bandwidth

So.. this might have been said before, but im just going to throw it out there again...

If CPU is "Good enough," RAM is good enough, and given whatever "acceleator" if it even has one is sufficent to some old technology.. then this is my theory.

Memory bandwidth... I had a samsung i760 before this and it took 1 min 3 sec to transfer some 3800+ messages/contacts etc on to my transflash as a PIMbackup file, and took over 4 times as long to unpack it back to the TP. I benched a video on coreplayer on the i760 using software driver and would get 8-13mbps ON MY transflash. The TP I hit 1.8mbps on the same card. I actually RMA'd my OCZ 66X transflash because my i760 "destroyed" it (internal heat destroyed the flash) after 6 hours straight of watching video off the card at jury duty. This phone cannot even make it warm.

Too me it seems like a bandwidth issue... my phone is deleting my SOME 850+ old text messages.. and has covered ~200 in the last 35 minutes... THIS PHONE IS SLOW AS **** when doing ANYTHING involving I/O. I believe it needs ALL that RAM to mask that fact in my opinion... just my 2 cents.

11:28am - 513 messages left to delete

11:38am - 498 to go... WHY DO I WISH I WAS MAKING THIS UP...*smacks head in to wall*

11:48am - 442 to go .. wait, what? How come 25 in first 10 minutes documented and 56 in second?

Do you think it doesn't prioritize I/O or the OS operations??

That would be the result .. yes .. same bitrate, same result its not the processor... but how fast it can read and respond to the data.

And to finish the *point* of my message is.. internal memory bandwidth, I mean think about it.. if its not all RAW straight to the graphics (no accelator right?), hell even if it has some sort of accelerator, but slow internal memory, if it buffers ANYTHING.. the SECOND it tries to use the internal memory there would be degraded performance, but how can one test that?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nuke1:
For the memory card. have you tried the recently (only week old) SD card tuneup? It's meant to increase speeds up to 3x. Side-effects aren't known.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FF_Freak:
Nope, ill do a search and check in the next 72 hours.. holidays you know.. NATF if your reading.. appreciated as always (man works through the holidays)

Curiousity caught the better of me, you mean the tnyynt SD TuneUP.cab (Not a week ago...) No huge difference for me, still hovering 1.3-1.8mbps

I mean the man who wrote that thread definately makes sense, and I cannot tell you if the SD card is the limiting factor.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black6spdZ:
there is a significant slowdown in processing the video data.. in coreplayer try disabling the video output before running a benchmark so it only processes audio.. I have seen close to 9.5 Mbps.. my new 16gb sandisk card benches 19.1MB/s in a USB adapter and 6 MB/s "48Mbps" while used in the TP in flash drive mode. I wouldn't say that the microsd controller has insufficient bandwidth available by any means.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FF_Freak:
As I said just my theory, as I said I have no evidence, but if you have seen those benchmarks, I guess its a theory I might have to reject.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FF_Freak:
Your right by the way, 11.8Mbits in no video... Sorry to jump to conclusions
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] viz0r:
I dont feel too bad of having a Touch Pro, compared to the Samsung Omnia i900 i found this interesting review on that Omnia and I think touch pro performed well in WM6.1

I leave you guys with the link.

http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1089&p=4
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black6spdZ:
I was doing some more coreplayer benchmarks with the video RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi as a baseline to determine the optimal encoding parameters for pocketdivxencoder and discovered yet more interesting findings

original file bitrate: 1500kb/s vid + 128kb/s aud=1.62Mb/s

using Da_G 2.02 20954 rom

as benchmarked with CP 1.2.5 and 1.3.0 < no significant difference between the two versions with Qtv and TyTn II mode

original file 1.62Mb/s 85% or 1.39Mb/s

recoded audio to 128k mono 1.62Mb/s 88% or 1.43Mb/s

original played with audio out disabled 1.62Mb/s 97% or 1.57Mb/s

recoded with no audio "1.5Mb/s" 101% or 1.51Mb/s

recoded with 1265kbps vid "1.39Mb/s" 92% or 1.29Mb/s

this raises some questions. First, why do I gain an additional 40kb/s when playing back a mono encoded video? The bitrate is still identical. Second, according to the original benchmark of 1.39Mb/s, why wouldn't my last test video play at 100% since it was encoded at exactly 1.39Mb/s?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DSF:
Well, he didn't posted the graphics benchmark chart.. why? this is a mystery..(in the graphics benchmark omnia scored waaaay better than diamond/touch pro).

Plus, people are saying that qualcomm cpus are lacking FPU.. so the software based on FPU calculations have poor performance (because the FPU operations have to be software emulated). Many comparisons were posted in this thread and the qualcomm's FPU performance is indeed worse than intel xscall/marvell cpus.

@FF_Freak sometimes, mine feels sluggish while just listening to music and trying to do something else.. eg using touch flo 3d, internet browsing, file browsing, etc.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Planeswalker:
So, if I understand correctlly, HTC made another S**T and the problem didn't resolve so far.

I'm looking for some reason to replace my treo 750, and I fixed my eyes on TouchPro.

but I think I'm disappoint again with HTC the da*m company... they never do right things on WM device... Elf, Hermes, Cheetah, Kaiser...

except Cheetah, palm might dev a proper driver for it, all other devices are leak griphic drivers...

what's more? A Qualcomm FPU less chip...??

may be I should try other platform? E71 with S60?? but I do hate Nokia's device...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sovrce:
So how about a take home message from this thread? Is it even remotely possible that improvements can be made? To be brutally honest, I have absolutely no problem with this phone so far. I've had it about a week and love it more and more everyday. I understand that the truly hardcore A/V guys might be having some issues, but I'm OK. So I go back to my original point - Are fixes possible? Or is this thread more or less a 'Bash HTC for Old Drivers'/pessimism thread?

(not intended to be sarcastic or insulting in any way, shape or form)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] iRiKi:
Core Player 1.2.5 with all default (qtv, etc).

My Diamond: 92% (with sound)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Hamstah:
I tried to post this a few days ago, but I was having trouble with the web site.

I'm not very experienced with messing around with video settings, but I tried that file under differents settings with the following results:

QTv: 91.06%

DD: 83%

Raw Frame buffer: 83.74%

I found that the QTv produced the smoothest video, followed by the raw frame buffer. Both had a little bit of shearing when flashing from dark to light etc - the Direct Draw test was shearing a lot, and wasn't really watchable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black6spdZ:
thats odd, I cannot seem to get any higher than 85%.. any special tweaks?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] werD:
So, is anyone using the Omnia drivers for D3D or are the diamond drivers still the best bet?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] robert.sabrina:
Would appreciate a point in the right direction if there is already one?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Jocelyn:
I'm also looking for something like this, but Givenchy or Chanel :D

PS (Donatella screwed up everything Versace) :(
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] Umang96:
View attachment 5713537

* We are not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, We will laugh at you.
* It is your fault because you chose to do all the modifications on your device.
* Remember projects like these and the work done on them is a hobby to the
* contributors and the team members, no one is working for you nor is getting paid for it
* have some respect for the work done by them since it is done purely on interest or a hobby

ABOUT

CatalystOS is focused on performance, smoothness and stability with only necessary customisation. We bring some never seen before features to the custom rom community like schedule reboot and per-app landscape refresh rate, schedule airplane mode for standby battery saving. OTA updates are also supported. We usually send updates every weekend. This rom is co-developed by @Umang96 and @LordShenron .

SOME FEATURE HIGHLIGHTS

Force app refresh rate - force any app on min/max/dynamic refresh rate to have better control

Force app landscape refresh rate - force any app to run on min refresh rate when in landscape

Schedule reboot - reboot your phone automatically at specific time

Schedule airplane mode - set automatic airplane mode on/off time to save battery

Better (smaller) privacy indicators, charging indicator, cpu info overlay tile

DT2W, DT2S on homescreen/lockscreen/statusbar

Rom and kernel + dt side performance improvements

WHAT WORKS?

Almost everything

WHAT DOESN'T WORK?

You tell me

Be sure to include a log: check how to

INSTRUCTIONS TO FLASH

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Have unlocked bootloader

adb reboot fastboot

fastboot flash boot boot.img

fastboot flash vendor_boot vendor_boot.img

reboot to recovery now

wipe data because you are changing rom

select adb sideload

adb sideload CatalystOS_xxxxxxx.zip

DOWNLOADS

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CatalystOS Website

GPL COMPLIANCE

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ROM Source: https://github.com/catalyst-android

Kernel Source: https://github.com/catalyst-android/kernel_xiaomi_sm8250

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POCO F4 Discussion

Credits:

madmax7896 for his work on device trees

UtsavBalar1231 for his work on sm8250 kernel

ArrowOS, LineageOS, SuperiorOS for their work on aosp
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] zelos156:
Boss! 😎
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] mxeus:
Excuse me, NFC, infrared, double click to light up the screen, raise your hand to light up the screen, and unlock your face. Are these normal
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] 0x1329029:
Good ROM!

Does it possible to build CatalystOS for my poco f4 in my own? will be really appreciated if it already have a guidance page or doc!
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] kisapl:
Can I flash with ofox? Will OTA work or flash boot and vendor boot needed?
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] peng1990:
very easy to use，i like it. thx！
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] psklf:
Same question, which rec to use
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] peng1990:
I installed it with TWRP and OTA can work
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] Atexor:
I had few issues during installing ROM because OrangeFox was replaced with default LoS recovery, but after few attempts it worked.

ROM seems to work smoothly. Fast charging looks working (I've over 8A now), GPS finds me fast. I managed to install succesfully Magisk or Viper4Android without any problems (I am surprised, it works even without Legace mode with my custom kernels and presets).

However, I miss few features and I hope they will be added someday.

- customization of AOD screen, I'm not saying they should be as advanced as on MIUI, but now... there is nothing except enable/disable via status bar and... hours for auto-disable AOD. I like always on display, but during night It's unecessary.

- swipe status bar to change brightness and remove auto-brightness icon

- usb tethering when clicking hotspot tile (it's faster than going to settings, type "usb teth..." and open it)

- hold longer power button to enable torchlight

edit:

- position of AOD display does not change, clock is always on top left corner and battery on bottom, to my mind it should change from time to time to avoid pixel burn-in.
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] fakecw:
@Umang96 the touch sensitivity seem a bit off, swipe up to open app drawer gesture require more motion than usual. Beside, can you add option to change system font? Android without Google Product Sans feel weird. Everything else is perfect to me. Thank you and keep up the good work!
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] Atexor:
I noticed it too on SwiftKey, I lowered vibrations for pressing keys to minimal 1ms, but they're still strong.
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] hehsusss:
default camera has a big black area at the top is that normal?
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] zelos156:
Yepp
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] Sedat:
I have installed it on my Poco, tried a few roms. I like this one the best.
[Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S] bonyjose:
one of the best roms' currently available for Poco f4, has basic customization and is really stable. Thanks Dev.
[Huawei P40 Pro Questions & Answers] radicaldoc:
I have just bought some cheap ear buds to wear under my helmet on my motorbike. but for the life of i cannot find anyway to get them to auto answer a call??

i have tried loads a loads of different answers on google and youtube but no joy . i read that with bluetooth earbuds it will switch auto answer on as soon as you connect but not on mine ..

Help please
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] tho2k:
i just got beta version of skyfire. It's working now with my HTC Diamond. Check it out.

http://get.skyfire.com/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] makaveli94:
does youtube work?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] tho2k:
youtube is working great and some other video site or flash site. However, it doesn't connect when i use edge but it's working fine with wifi.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] makaveli94:
I've heard that people are stuck on "Locating" when you're not from the US
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Smartstradamus:
im in the uk and it runs fine except for youtube doesnt give me any sound.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gabemeyers:
anyone have this working with orb... i get an error downloading the stream file, any help would be great, im kind of tired always needing 2 browsers to get the content i want from the web
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hhh1234:
How To Download From other countries
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] willyy1991:
go to http://get.skyfire.com/ on your phone to get it (IE)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] koven:
can someone provide the cab? I have the account, but can't download the app
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kozij:
works great, thanks for the update, accessed the site from Australia through IE and working 100%
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Lycox:
Looks very ugly on my phone...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hhh1234:
thank you it works great
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Caramel:
+1 Dont work for the frenchs !!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Sir_Oliver:
I have this problem.... How to fix this?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Lycox:
Did you relly opened "get.skyfire.com" in PocketIE?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] koven:
Opened with IE 6, gettin the "Locating.." :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pereira.stephen:
I installed the latest version on my Diamond but to be honest I am not too impressed by the resolution.

Is there a setting that enables vga mode? All the fonts and images look stretched as if it were QVGA, anyone else got this problem?:confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] missbizzylizzy:
I think I might give this a try. Just wondering if anyone had any opinions when comparing it to Opera???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Lycox:
Here's the cab for you. If it will violate against the rights of the owner please feel free to delete that post (to mods) or tell me and I'll remove the cab.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pereira.stephen:
Opera is FAR better as an everyday browser in my opinion.

I can see Skyfire being useful though, especially if browsing websites that have a lot of streaming media and flash. It's also quite good if you use sites like digg/reddit.

Facebook sucked and the homepage didn't render as it would on a PC so that was dissapointing, but I visit facebook using the iphone.facebook.com URL via Opera and that's quite good.

The application is supported by VGA devices like the Diamond, however, it certainly isn't optimised for VGA, as you will notice when you install and run it. The buttons look stretched, fonts don't look right and when zoomed out it looks quite pixelly

It's a good concept, however I feel that Skyfire has a way to go before it can compete with more stable browsers like Opera which is far more practical.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] basthet:
Guten Morgen,

just saw your are from Germany. Did you get beyond the Locating... screen?

If so: how?

I use the cab you posted.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Lycox:
Yes, but only with a little trick. I clicked on "Back" and then it reconnects.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] missbizzylizzy:
Thanks, pereira.stephen. Maybe I'll just use it for those websites which use flash and streaming media. Cheers!:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] basthet:
Thanks - but then it reconnects, locating again, and an error message pops up:

"Skyfire cannot connect to the sever at this time"
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eadon:
Is anyone having problems with no sound?

As far as I can see this is the only way to access the bbc iplayer on the diamond
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] keirmeister:
Shame on Skyfire!

I was waiting for them to upgrade to support VGA devices. Originally it would only work on QVGA and would only display on half of the Diamond screen.

Skyfire said they were working on a fix. It appears their "fix" was to simply cheat and stretch the QVGA to a VGA screen.

<passive aggressive>That's disappointing</passive aggressive>
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Caramel:
Thx it work, i allway use opera and not PIE :D, but it is not spectacular, come back to opera !
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] harrysaab:
mine freezes at 'connecting....''

anyone having this problem?