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[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Conan179:
Has anyone tested whether twrp still works with One UI 6? I'm not interested in backing up the (encrypted) data partition, but in making /system writable.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] 39elbarto:
I confirm, that android 14 can be rooted. I've prepared, made all backups, but tried first to update from android 12 to 14 without going to factory settings. I was surprised, but everything works! Just updated some apps in LSposed.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Malicieux:
Hello.

I have trouble rooting a F936B/DS with F936BXXS5EXBF build.

I keep getting the below:

I am following all the steps in post #1.

Could you please advise how to fix the above, if you have experience and/or knowledge on this?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] 39elbarto:
Hi! I didn't have such problem. What steps did you do? Did you unlock bootloader or not?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Malicieux:
Hello,

I did these steps:

- Enable Developer Mode (on phone action).

- OEM unlock (on phone action) - see attached.

- note the software version.

- Download needed firmware.

- Patch AP in Magisk (on phone action).

- Finish OEM unlock in Download mode (this will RESET the device)

- Setup phone again and connect wifi (that's important i guess).

- Flash patched AP with Odin
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] 39elbarto:
So, everything should work. Did you flash all files from firmware or only AP? You need to flash all files from firmware (and patched AP instead of original)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Malicieux:
I did only the AP before, but after your post, I did flash all files, and the result is the same.

Odin result is the below:
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] 39elbarto:
I did only the AP before, but after your post, I did flash all files, and the result is the same.

I really not a professional in such problems. You did wrong in the beginning. Try to do factory reset, as it is written on picture, or google this problem. sorry
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Denver3D:
got the same issue with the latest frimware using magisk alpha
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Malicieux:
I was suspecting, that it's firnware related. Maybe should try to root an older firmware, and then install new one? Or root won't stay?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Denver3D:
actually found the fix whyen I got that error I just need to click on reset factory in the stock recovery choice and it will bootwith magisk installed xD
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] molitar:
So even with a factory unlocked SM-F936U you still can not root the phone? If this is the case I'm going to cancel my order and look for the Global Model. Also if this is the case is the ART Tool lying as they state this model can be rooted with there tool.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] molitar:
No idea if it actually works but this site claims it can root it.

https://www.androidroottool.com/brands/samsung/sm-f936u
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] EliteNinja91:
having same issue here btw how do i get back to stock recovery ? oh im using magisk 27 & latest firmware
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Conan179:
If someone wants to connect their Samsung watch to their Fold 4, they can try https://github.com/3arthur6/BluetoothLibraryPatcher#galaxy-watch-devices-support , but there is a risk that it won't start anymore!

Its not working.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Conan179:
Is there already a TWRP?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
No, always look on official site: https://twrp.me/Devices/Samsung/
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Conan179:
If you go by the official site there will probably never be one, there isn't even one for Fold1
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
You can enter the default recovery if you want to reset:
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Conan179:
:ROFLMAO:The default Recovery cand flash zip files.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] afaneh92:
if you are willing to test contact me
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Conan179:
ok, i'll get back to you this afternoon, i'm at work.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] robsmith11:
Has anyone successfully rooted a phone purchased in Asia (outside of China and Korea)?

If not, is there anything I can check at the store before purchasing to have a good idea whether root will work?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
If it's connected to WIFI you can check if it's possible to OEM unlock.

Wifi is needed if post #19 is correct.

Simply enter developer options, check if enable OEM unlock is possible.

Also look for the software-version, then you can at home if you can dowload software for it.

more details: first post, first 3 steps:

- Enable Developer Mode (on phone action).

- OEM unlock (on phone action).

- note the software version.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] 39elbarto:
I've bought Fold 4 in Vietnam and have rooted it very fast and easy. Now I can't connect we galaxy watch but samsung health works (instruction from 2nd post)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] jdenman03:
US Fold 4 unlocked (purchased directly from Samsung and is the U1 version) and I do NOT have "OEM Unlock" just as an FYI. I have put a Att, tmobile, verizon, and other SIM cards in to test it. No dice.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] afaneh92:
US devices has no oem unlock toggle, can be unlocked via paid service, but unfortunately only S9-S21 Fold1-2 supported on certain bootloader versions. Check my signature for link
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] dirtybudha:
The OP States that this works for certain models. The US models do not allow root.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] jdenman03:
Sorry my reply was really for the people coming from the android police article that we will be able to unlock the bootloader for an unlocked US version.

Samsung uploads Galaxy Z Flip 4 and Fold 4 kernel sources to the joy of ROM makers

The Galaxy Z Flip 4 and Fold 4 are going open source:

www.androidpolice.com
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] dirtybudha:
OMG, I hate them for that crap. Go post a comment that states only the B, N, and /DS models are rootable.

Or share the link to the article and I'll inform them.

they did this with the Fold 3 and other models.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] jdenman03:
I posted the link to the article in my comment right above you. I also informed them to via the chat. It's stupid how ignorant these writers can be sometimes.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] dirtybudha:
Posted the list int he comments, and told the "writer" to fix the article.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] justloyld:
Good guide but don't samsung devices have a knox efuse that doesn't allow flashing?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] edersonlz:
Guys, I have a SM-F936N version. bought on Korea, but I live in Brazil and would like to flash the SM-F936B firmware, do you think is it possible? I would like to have some Samsung Pay working here.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] stokon:
I think you should make a sperate thread about this

good luck with it
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cmccool8885:
So if I have a fold 4 that I got from AT&T here in the US, I am not able to flash the rootable firmware? Am I understanding this correctly?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Follow the steps!

Do you have OEM Unlock option under developer options?

That's the most important thing
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
If i google it should be possible.

But i don't know the answer.

If you try this download also Korean Firmware first as backup!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cmccool8885:
No I do not have that option. So without that there is nothing I can do?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
No, sorry. You cannot root at the moment...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cmccool8885:
No I do not have that option. So without it there's nothing I can do?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Not yet, maybe never, time will tell...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] robsmith11:
I successfully rooted a new Fold4 purchased from Thailand using this guide. I used the latest September firmware.

One issue I had was Heimdall didn't seem to recognize my phone, so I had to use Odin from a Windows VirtualBox VM. Anyone get Heimdall to work on Linux?

Btw pretty good prices here.. about $1300 for new in box with full warranty from MBK in Bangkok.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] goldsonic:
Thank you so much for the steps.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cmccool8885:
So there aren't any types of apps or adb codes we can do to get to the unlock bootloader? I mean as for us with a US Model with a carrier.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Not that i know of.

You can try it yourself:

How To Unlock Bootloader On Samsung Galaxy Phones

The Linux platform-based Android OS is really customizable and easy to use for any user or developer. Just like other devices, the Samsung Galaxy device

www.getdroidtips.com

Let us know how it goes!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] lvchi:
Is the camera working fine on f936n?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] robsmith11:
I'm pretty sure it works fine on all rooted Fold4 models. I haven't had anything break after rooting my F936B.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] lvchi:
Many users say that the camera will be locked, but no one has given evidence, they say that only the European version will not lock the camera. Have you seen other versions that are not locked?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
What is your source? Never heard of the camera getting locked.

Thai, Vietnam, both rooted if you scroll through this thread. Nobody says camera is locked or anything...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] lvchi:
The models in Thailand and Vietnam are both f936b, same as in Europe, but mine is f936n. The camera of the f926n of the fold3 will be locked, but the f926b will not
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Strange, only thing i can think up right now is a poll so hopefully more users will react and clear it up for us.

So i started a poll in this thread :)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] lvchi:
Now all the feedbacks are f936b users, and there is no information related to f936n. f936n can be bought very cheap in my country, but i need root and i'm not sure if the camera will work
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] xiaoxiaokeai:
F936N unlock bootloader will lock the camera。Please how to solve this problem​
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] xVoidx:
So I have the Z Fold4 SM-F936U1 - XAA this is the unlocked US version and there is no "OEM Unlocking" after Developer options are enabled. Does this root method require an unlocked bootloader? I would assume so if flashing modified firmware is necessary?

I take it the US models and users will need to wait for a different method?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cmccool8885:
Seems to be the case. So I was also wondering if you have to have the bootloader unlocked to flash firmware through Odin. And can you flash the EU firmware onto an American AT&T version with Odin, is it even worth it? I've wanted to see how Android 13 is.. Ive pretty much only rooted OnePlus phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] szallenlian:
There is no oem lock in developer mode. Mine is 936b/ds. Why?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Thrudvangar:
you have to first do the initial setup and connect to a wifi port and then you have the oem unlock option
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] szallenlian:
I can't help it. I tried everything。
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Thrudvangar:
so you are connected to wifi and please go in developer settings. is there oem unlock option? please check
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] szallenlian:
no oem lock
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Thrudvangar:
and you are sure that you have F936B/DS ?

please show screenshot of dev options and where i can see that you are connected to wifi
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Thrudvangar:
please type "*#0*#" in dialpad and go to version. make screenshot.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Thrudvangar:
hmmm.

this is strange. i do not understand this.

i would try to do a factory reset, then do the initial setup, connect to wifi and look again in dev options
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Segnale007:
I have the same model and can confirm I have the same issue. Even with Android 13. Is there a way to fix / work around this? I am hopeless.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
I wish i could, i don't know the solution. I think you need a special tool or something flashable in twrp. Once i know more i'll post it.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nuk3s:
Confirmed that unlocking the bootloader on a F936N will stop the camera from working.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Stray doggy:
I have flashed files with Odin, but I don't understand how to "Patch AP in Magisk (on phone action)", as I read on the tutorial. Can someone tell me how to do it, please?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Sure:

- Open magisk

- Choose install

- Select and Patch a File

Choose your AP file here and Magisk will do the magic.

I think screenshots below will help.

Let me know if it worked :-)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cmayk:
Hey guys, I'm completely new when it comes to the rooting scene. I've been watching this thread ever since I bought my Fold 4. Unfortunately, I have the SM-F936U model

Did anyone ever find a method to root it?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Stray doggy:
Thank you for trying to help and sorry for my delay.

As I see it, I have to patch the ROM file(s) with the Magisk-v25.2.apk before injecting it in the phone via Odin. But the Magisk .apk file is not executable on a computer. Hence, my question: How do I do that. How can I

"- Open magisk

- Choose install" ?

This is the only thing I don't understand and don't know how to do on your well detailed tutorial.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Delay? No problem, don't rush this.

Copy AP file to phone (the big file).

Install magisk.apk on you phone (open the downloaded with file manager).

Open magisk, patch the ap file.

It will create a big patched file (with diffirent name).

Copy the patched big file to your computer.

Follow the steps (choose the files in Odin and flash).

Don't forget to install magisk after the odin proces and finish setup
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Stray doggy:
I think I got it. I'll do it later. Thank you very much for your very useful help.

Afterwards, will I still receive the Samsung automatic updates, or do I have to search for them?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] teknowiz23:
So the 1 person who voted that they rooted their sm-f936u.. I take it that was a typo? Man I miss root.. such a great phone irregardless tho
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] kingwicked:
i use a Note 20 Ultra 5G rooted with safetynet fixed, samsung health latest working.

i stumbled upon this thread as i was doing some research on Fold4 if it can be rooted and i can upgrade my phone 🙂

I am using this magisk module which fixes issues with Samsung Health app and Galaxy Wearable getting frozen at times due to it . This module after i installed has fixed Samsung Health and im using the latest version installed from playstore. Here is the link to the developers page on Github of the module 🙂

GitHub - stylemessiah/SamsungHealthSecurityProps: Removes "sakv2" from ro.security.keystore.keytype to help make Samsung Health run on rooted Samsung devices

Removes "sakv2" from ro.security.keystore.keytype to help make Samsung Health run on rooted Samsung devices - GitHub - stylemessiah/SamsungHealthSecurityProps: Removes "sakv2" f...

github.com
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
I will test this later when i got time.

Thank you very much offcourse!

EDIT: DOES NOT WORK, keeps connecting...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
No automatic updates! You'll have to flash with Odin every time as far as i know!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Handymann007:
Hello I occasionally get the message.....Access denied... Unauthorized changes have been made to you phone. To get help, contact Customer Service how can I set it or what do I have to do so that it is no longer displayed?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] xhers.maska:
Can anyone help me dirty flash U1 version on my Fold 4 SM F936B/DS ?​

I am in the US and not having full network coverage.

My S22 Ultra with U1 does have full coverage.

Can this be done ?

If yes, help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] shorty9210:
Has anyone found/have the firmware for the Zfold4U1 with csc code GCF????

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Not on the sites i've used before...

https://samfw.com/firmware/SM-F936U1 not here

Latest Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4 firmware

Download the latest Samsung firmware for Galaxy Z Fold 4 with model code SM-F936B. Check out our free download or super fast premium options.

www.sammobile.com

https://samfrew.com/model/SM-F936U1/

what is GCF (country, region)?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] shorty9210:
Yea I wonder if you just need to be on a U1 firmware and the change csc, but apparently it's GCF=Global Certification Forum I figured it might have the OEM unlock showing
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
All Samsung Galaxy Firmware PDA And CSC Codes List With Detailed Explanation - SamsungSFour.Com

All Samsung Galaxy Firmware PDA And CSC Codes List With Detailed Explanation.

www.samsungsfour.com

I think you can use US firmware if i read this site.

But of course I can't guarantee anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] shorty9210:
Samfw ftp tool said it was one of the support csc to change so possibly
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] shorty9210:
The the only thing after reading that is it makes me even more confused on what my correct firmware is supposed to be bought my Zfold right from att but my firmware doesn't match att csc code but matchs t-mobile ans meto csc etc under the f936u varient
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] shorty9210:
As well would any one who has been able to root there device have logs of when the did oem unlocked there drive they could share, or even possibly have some emmc firehose's they know of to post here so I can continue testing with eld mode im not quite sure what I'm looking for sense eventing I search just brings me to different manufacturer phones
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] elchilverde:
I dont' mean to derail from the main thread. Just want to state that this guide worked for my Z Fold3 5G - SM-F926B/DS with the latest Android security level patch (1 December 2022)

Thanks for this guide, OP.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Cyrax-001:
why do people even still root? We used to do that when we had obsolete Phones or when OS updates didn't exceed one year. But why now? and with the latest phone in the market?!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] jsbutran:
Does this method work for Korean models of Fold 4 as well ?. Please guide
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Thrudvangar:
because lsposed or edexposed does not work without root.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Can you OEM Unlock?

Whats your csc code?

Follow the steps from first post...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Send a screenshot of the files you Select in odin (before you flash).

Maybe i can help :)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
Don't use MD5 files but the big files.

Check filesizes, MD5 is for checksum (google if curious)

Hope you understand!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
honestly I did not understand so much what you mean ... sorry
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
in AP I extracted boot.img and vbmeta.img I put them with magisk, now with odin how should they be installed?

Thank you so much
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] TacoGiz:
Hey guys!

Has anyone tried or already rooted the latest firmware F936BXXU1BVL7 ?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
I tried to withdraw the Z fold 4 but it gave me vbmeta failed
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] TacoGiz:
Damn, I just updated it last night after buying it lol.

Did anybody else get lucky with that FW ?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] TacoGiz:
Is there a way to downgrade the FW ?? I used to have a Huawei Mate XS and I had a tool to downgrade it. Would it be possible with Odin ?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
I apologize if I insist ... kindly can someone help me? I have the phone off

thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] TacoGiz:
I believe I understand what they tried to explain to you.

Basically you used the .md5 in Odin and you were not supposed to.

they're telling you to use the other files that are named the same but not .md5 (which are bigger in size).

Hope this help..!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
then in odin i have to load BL, CP, CSC and in AP what i have to put?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] TacoGiz:
After checking the firmware I downloaded (same version as you). It seems that there's only .md5 (weird that they would say to not load the .md5). Perhaps it's your AP the problem cause it's not a supported format for Odin ? (At this point I'm just throwing guesses..)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
the thing is strange because it is also written in the first post .... procedure to do..... Copy the AP file to your phone example:

AP_F936BXXU1AVGA_F936BXXU1AVGA_MQB54005121_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT_meta_OS12.tar.md5

to phone, patched file in Magisk and choose the AP file.

magisk_patched-25200_KYFoy.tar is created.

Copy this file back to computer next to the other firmware files.

I hope someone reads this message and can give me some pointers
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] rawkus123:
Got my GW3 to pair yesterday! I had to flash TWRP and a custom kernel and it all works now, if anyone is interested in getting their gear devices to work this is the way to do it.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
but the procedure you did is also good for z fold 4? if it's ok can you write the procedure to do? thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
I got this solution also from pvillasuso in personal message.

I did NOT test it...

If it works then i'll update fhe first posts offcourse

You can try what worked for me :

1. Install TWRP

2. Mount/Disable MTP

3. Sideload via adb ( adb push BluetoothLibraryPatcher_twrp_2.4.1.zip /sdcard )

4. Install the patched file ( attached below )

5. Reboot from TWRP

6. Now you can pair your smartwatch

BluetoothLibraryPatcher_twrp_2.4.1

MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.

www.mediafire.com

Let me know if it worked for you
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
These files look still compressed!

www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=img.lz4+extension
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
no i used these for odin
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Wanttoknowthings:
Hey folks just want to let u know

i was able to unlock the bootl. of the uk version

via the method posted here , went on and also flashed twrp and the matching kernel !
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] iron@ss:
Do you mean that you carrier unlocked your UK phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Wanttoknowthings:
No they mentioned :

- Can all modeld be rooted? No, this doesn't work on all models (as stated here and some more info here):

SM-F936U(/1) - US model - Unrootable

SM-F936W - Canadian model - Unrootable

SM-F936B EUX - European model - Rootable (my telephone)

SM-F936N - South Korean model - Rootable

SM-F936B(/DS) - Global model - Rootable***

***B models purchased in UK are not guaranteed to get an unlocked bootloader due to brexit as noted by user @白い熊 and confirmed by @kaos_king

and i got the version SM-F936B(/DS) from uk (box said uk ) and was able to unlock the bootloader

now i need help compiling the kernel for nethunter ... (https://xdaforums.com/t/nethunter-build-help-kernel-system.4541193/ )
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
They? Just me 😜

I'll update posts after weekend (now i drink beer)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Wanttoknowthings:
after the beer help with nethunter kernel

good work by the way
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Wanttoknowthings:
after the beer help with nethunter kernel

good work by the way

what toolchain do u use ?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] kaos_king:
Really?!

I still can't unlock my bootloader 😭
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] Wanttoknowthings:
what does happen if u try to go into the menu ?

maybe someone has a clue how to get the system from me to your system ...

but im new to this topic anyway

but i could share all needed files etc
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] monicaONxda:
Nice Thread...

Anybody knows for sure or has experience in if that works with the newer "Fold 5" model?

Thx
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] nikem:
so I have a Z fold 4 SM-F936B/DS which procedure should I do? sorry but i don't understand english thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4] bigchrizzieboy:
I don't use any toolchain or anything.

I just found the steps andc created an HOWTO, i also try to support anyone who tries to root by answering questions in this thread. I don't know how to help you, (sorry)