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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] veljko.m:
And have multi touch screen like iPhone !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
i´m impressed, can´t believe this is windows mobile, so they did a good job. the phone has a 3,4 zoll display with 720x480 Pixel ! and a ARM-Prozessor with 800 Megahertz (SPEEED) !!! But no 3G :(

The GUI or OS or whatever is unbelievable smoth fast and eyecandy. I´m just wondering why they use windows ce 6.0 and microsoft itself is still on windows ce 5.x ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theelite:
they used Windows CE6 probably cause Microsoft made the kernel shared source, also no GPS.

The M8 I think is still doomed, too little to late at this point.

For them to compete in the states it would of least had to be 3G with GPS.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xplode:
well upgrades for this device to WM7 will be more easy because it already uses the CE6 kernel :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fatso485:
im a noob here but

1-whats the difference between wm6 and ce?

2-tcmp was there in the video doent this make it compatible with windiws mobile

3-why are the newest htc phones are based 5.2 and this one 6.0

4-is the still UI portable if its not based on windiws mobile
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kidnamedAlbert:
this would be AMAZING to port over.

or at least make a clone of.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ZzFDKzZ:
M8 is 2 years late. Nobody is interested in this phone anymore.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fatso485:
who cares about the phone. i dont think anybody cared about touch 3g or viva. but it gave us manila2d for all our other devices

its the software we're intrested in.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] alexsandros:
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this UI seems to be the fack iphone is it not?

the ones made in china?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aldur:
+1 on that :)

this ui looks great and would really be an improvement...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] o2neouzr:
its not their own os, the os is windows ce. they just have their custom shell running on windows ce. windows mobile is windows ce too but with microsofts mobile shell.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tboy2000:
Wow its so fast and responsive. No loading icons. Unbelieveable! If Windows Mobile uses the same CE but just a different shell, why do we have so many loading wait icons when obviously we have proof that it does not need to be that way? Would love to see this OS on the HTC Touch HD.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nickytheshaft:
1-WM 6 has only 40% (i think) of the code available for customizing, win ce 6 has 100% so full customisation is possible.

2-some winmo apps run on the M8 a tester showed screens of Igo 8. So some will work, others not.

3-wince6 will be used for winmo 7

4-ui may not be portable as it has been said is a full customisation of wince. It touches part that are not accesible in winmo.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
windows mobile 6 is based on windows ce 5 and window mobile 7 will base on windows ce 6. mmh but how can a small chinese company blame microsoft with this better and newer OS ?. So no chance for porting this to wm6.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theelite:
I am pretty sure it's their own propietary OS based on Windows 6 CE kernel not just a shell, this is what has been said over at meizume.com

I just don't want people thinking this is just going to be straight up Windows 6 CE with just a pretty GUI on top of it. Though since it is still based on CE 6, I guess it depends on what kinda terminology you use for shell.

The CEO is looking to market the OS to developers to make proprietary software and app store and so forth..though I don't see that catching on real well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lepsyfou:
The Meizu is a good phone but it is a long time he had to leave, they refer each time leaving probably because of complaints from apple​
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fatso485:
http://www.meizu.com/cn/Taste.html

nice flash
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aldur:
SDK released:

meizume and firmware

maybe that helps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dabackwoodboy:
this might sound stupid because i know nothing about programing and developing but wouldnt it be to try and port windows 6 ce instead of trying to port over the ui sicine the ui was created off of ce 6
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maati:
This is a lot less amazing than it seems. You can get the same on Windows Mobile 6, too.

Just watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg2XlNNt3vE

Everything is fluid and easy to use, just like on the Meizu M8.

You can download the whole "finger-friendly package" there:

http://rapidshare.com/files/186097310/Touch_HD_UI_Package.zip

Just not all the applications are freeware, but if you really want an interface like that, I think it's worth spending a few bucks.

Another reat finger-friendly, fluid media player is Conduits PocketPlayer.

You can set Resco Explorer, ThumbCal, PocketPlayer and iContact as default in the registry (HKLM\software\microsoft\shell\rai) and you won't see the standard, non-fingerfriendly WinMo applications anymore.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sakara:
this works on hd only or on diamond too?
[Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers] MoHuToP:
Good day,

I try to flash miui and got this.

Any idea what to do after my phone stucks at this stage for a hour may be... ?

View attachment 5693149

At this moment, the device is plugged to the pc.

Thanks for the ideas :D
[Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Fytdyh:
leave it. and this is why it is recommended to do a factory reset prior to such flashing.
[Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers] MoHuToP:
Thank ou for this advice.

My terminal was frozen and with push of random button at my keyboard, the proccess just finish successfully.
[G1 General] brooklynite:
The other day the GPS had the weirdest issue. I was stuck in traffic and decided to turn on Google Maps to find out how long the traffic is going to be. To my disbelief, the GPS showed me in a different town and MOVING on the street and then onto some freeway about 50 miles from my location. I thought the GPS satellites are screwed up but my car was showing me in the right place (and never has made such a stupid error).

Makes me wonder if the GPS info is actually going to Google servers and coming back to the phone as I guess I was getting someone else's GPS data and the lines were crossed somehow. This continued to about 30 minutes as I was enjoying the error and wondering at the same time. Holding the phone out of the window and stuff did not work. Eventually I reboot (oops! I meant I took the battery out because HTC apparently thinks we never need to reboot te G1 so there is no PIN hole for reboot like most other phones).

has anyone else experienced the same issue? :confused:
[G1 General] neoobs:
The GPS is not being relayed to google... but google maps may be the thing that is wrong here. You can't get your "lines crossed" when using google maps but the maps may be downloading the wrong set. I know I have seen it do some weird things but that is expected to happen when you have several countries you have to have maps for.

As for the reboot issue... is it really that hard to hold down the power button? You do realize that the pin hole on previous devices is for emergencies only. It could really screw up the phone. Similarly like using your computer and unpluging it while it is on... or just pressing its reset button.

Maybe this is the reason for your problems with your G1.
[G1 General] Kid Poker:
I was just browsing my location and found that the location was in my local Radio Shack that was 2 blocks away. I tried to refresh but wouldn't allow me to.
[G1 General] jashsu:
G1 uses assisted GPS, which performs some calculations away from your phone. Could have been your A-GPS server was sending back some faulty data.
[G1 General] hetaldp:
Some Application in G1 read Location info from Proprietary GPS Chip and also relies on Cell Tower GPS Coordination if GPS Signals is not available, in India my Airtel Company have Bad GPS Coordination in my Cell Tower, I Personally know which Cell Tower i am hooked to while i am at home but the Cell GPS Coordination is 8 Miles away from my Cell Tower.

Check that your GPS Signal were Strong and you have not just started seeing maps when that error occured.
[G1 General] Kid Poker:
I think it was stong. I had all my bars full and the 3g logo on it. Oh well I'll probably fiddle with it a little more tomorrow after I try to get a screen protector for the phone
[G1 General] brooklynite:
I thought the problem had gone away until last night it happened again, with one difference. I still had me being shown 20-30 miles away (interestingly not across the globe but simply 30 miles away) the problem corrected itself after about 5 minutes.

I have a car GPS and a portable GPS and I have never seen this happen before. The issue is definately the A-GPS. I always thought during WAR the military may scramble the GPS data to confuse the enemy, I guess that is what promted Europeans to install their own GPS that is much more accurate than ours.

And there are controversies over this as well. Google is recording my location and my cell towers and IP addresses and URLs according to its NO privacy policy. This is definitely not fun.

Sending my GPS info to Google servers (which is in fact the case) without me knowing it and sending it back to my phone through internet channels it not something I am comfortable with. Especially if Google releases information to law enforcement one day that may be incorrect showing me somewhere I really was not at!
[G1 General] brooklynite:
CORRECTION: A-GPS is for phones without GPS. It does not apply to this thread.
[G1 General] neoobs:
Where do you get your information? aGPS is for phones with GPS... it uses a data connection to locate you within so many meters than uses the GPS signal to pinpoint so you are located faster.
[G1 General] jashsu:
Wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Phone

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/gps.html
[G1 General] soloxp:
I have the same dxmn problem with the gps f-ing up. It started with RC30...When I was on RC19...I had NO PROBLEMS with gps.

It would pinpoint my location in 5sec. Now it's take 10-15min to pinpoint me. Google need to fix this fast.
[G1 General] Mikey:
whether it is related to this thread or not...A-GPS....
[G1 General] saffyreuk:
same problem here. i also think it started with the update.
[G1 General] brooklynite:
Guys, I am not wrong.

A-GPS as Google calls it (and there are other versions of it), is for phones without a GPS chip (thats how Google Maps find you on a T-Mobile WING), it started after an fcc mandate to be able to locate 911 callers from cell phone. It finds your location using a triangulation of the cell towers you are connected to and this particular technology and the extensive data that is required is owned by Google however Google may not call it AGPS.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/google-mobile-maps-pinpoints-your-location-without-gps/

Now it seems to me that Google is enhancing its data network of cell towers using our phones to collect location data. So it collects the cell towers we are connected to with the strength+ the GPS info from our phones and puts all this data in a server to that non-GPS phones using Google Maps can have a better triangulation as more data is gathered from across the country. Eventually the system could be perfected to locate any cell phone without a GPS chip or to locate a cellphone with the GPS feature turned off for privacy, and that is what concerns me.

When my phone shows me 20 miles from where I am, on the freeway, cruising at 55MPH while I am sitting in traffic on the other side of town, it concerns me.
[G1 General] neoobs:
Where are you getting your information? The link you provide just says they support phones without GPS but they never say it is only for phones without GPS. In fact it says that it will work on phones with GPS... that is what the whole article is about that phones in the future will have GPS and google maps will be able to pinpoint their location faster. Basically it says they are using A-GPS.

In the link above he links to http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/28/google-earth-heading-towards-extinction/ Which says people will be able to add their own commentary about places like a wiki. Nothing about using other peoples devices to send information for google to collect.

It also has this link http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20071128_maps_mobile_my_location.html Which is googles official press link saying it will work with both GPS and non-GPS phones by using the Cell ID and a special formula that google developed to pinpoint your location within a certain amount of distance. Nothing says it uses other peoples GPS signals. In fact it says "This approximation is anonymous, as Google does not gather any personally identifiable information or associate any location data with personally identifiable information as part of the My Location feature."

All in all I think you are misreading and need to look over your data again.
[G1 General] brooklynite:
Regardless of above, and you may be correct and I may be wrong, but the thread is getting distracted from the main subject. My main issue is this: Why is the GPS reporting me in the wrong location, and even MOVING which is weird. It was pretty obvious to me from what I saw that the Google Maps software in my phone was reading someone else's location data from someone else's GPS. I could see the person move through the streets and speed up and slow down. This makes me wonder if my locatio data is being sent to Google servers somewhere and then back to the phone (and in some cases crossed over with another persons data). This feels especially more true because Google MAPS has slowed down dramatically from finding "My Location" compared to "pre RC30" upgrade and even compared to the GPS-Chop-Free WING and even my ancient car's GPS system.
[G1 General] neoobs:
Have you talked to Google about this? I think you are just speculating what you want and have a hidden agenda. Did it locate you within so many feet? or was it a real location? If it was a real location than it couldn't be Google as it only pulls the map the actual lat, long is coming straight from the sats... possibly it pulled the wrong location for that tower while using A-GPS and then this calculated the wrong GPS coordinates.

Since you don't know what or how A-GPS works this may be hard to understand. A-GPS works by using that method you described for non-GPS cellphones to narrow the search for satalites. This doesn't find your location it only finds the vicinity. You can see the A part of A-GPS work when it says your location within so many meters. This is what works on your wing. The actual pinpoint location is based only off the GPS and isn't sent to google. Google only needs the map coordinates to download. Your GPS is what tracks you on the map. This is why google maps always load in blocks.

To fully understand a map system you must learn how maps work and be educated in the art of cairegraphy
[G1 General] sunseaker:
I think the real concern is that brooklynite was seeing himself moving through traffic while he was actually stationary. I can understand that perhaps the GPS got the wrong co-ords and the incorrect map was loaded showing him in another location, but you would still expect him to be shown stationary in the wrong location. So why would it show him moving when he was stationary?

The fact that he was moving on the map means the data must have been coming from another device doesn't it? How else could you explain it?

I would be concerned too.
[G1 General] brooklynite:
A real location about 50 miles away from my location. Somewhere I have never been since I have had this phone so it cannot be using the old data in my phone as sometimes it shows my locations from "last night".

I always have the "use wireless networks" off, afterall, the GPS chip is one of the main reasons I switched to the G1 from my older WING.

....

I have to add that

I am amazed by the GPS accuracy

, it even notices when I cross the stree, turn into a driveway or the side of the street I am standing on. When I switch to Sat. view, it literally shows my exact spot on the sidewalk, not in the middle of the street like a car GPS does.
[G1 General] jzerocsk:
Probably getting too far off topic but car GPS units are just as accurate, it's just that most of them have a correction feature to fudge your position onto the nearest road on the map if for some reason it is not. For the most part a driver doesn't care where he is on the road in relation to the curb....only that he is on the road he thinks he should be on.
[G1 General] mecheng:
BS GPS

I've experienced the same issue. I was in a North suburb Chicago. Wanted to use Google maps to get directions. Gps placed me in MINNESOTA - hauling ass through the woods.... At first I was pissed.... then laughed for a while... now I'm pissed again. It started after the RC-30 update. In addition, since the update my phone will occasionally lock up with a black screen and become completely unresponsive. Only recourse is to remove/replace the battery. WTF?:confused:
[G1 General] chorca:
I've had the same thing happen to me, but it's been across all the versions of the OS as far as I can tell. The GPS will take a longer-than-usual time to fix, and when it does, it can bounce back and forth between several locations, showing movement, sitting still, etc. I believe this is an issue with the A-GPS data and the GPS data conflicting, causing calculations to become skewed. If the A-GPS says the phone is in one general location and the phone starts using the GPS data to try and lock the position, it could start getting large amounts of error due to the A-GPS reporting the incorrect starting point.

Obviously i'm no expert and that's just a theory, but the problem does stand. Most of the time a simple reboot will fix the issue, but sometimes you hafta leave it on for five minutes or so, and it'll eventually jump to the right location, most likely after it's able to see enough sats to have a good 3D fix.
[G1 General] neoobs:
I believe you are right chorca. In fact that is one of the flaws with A-GPS. I have also noticed that turning on and off the use of wireless networks to get a fix is not the same as using the A-GPS. I still get A-GPS with that off. If you read up about A-GPS you will find that what chorca says is a real flaw and happens often when data is wrong.
[G1 General] ATT-Half:
GPS on the HTC G1/ Dream

worse yet

i had the iphone 3G getsa lock in few seconds very accurate

HTC pro gets lock in few seconds with lag problems but locks really fast

HTC dream AGPS disable (cause it detects me 1 mile away from my current location) GPS takes it's sweet time to get a lock

also notice it shares the same lag problems with HTC pro is it because they share the same cpu/chipset wonder when will they release a fix for that

i may go and return the G1 cause it really sucks other wise liked it so far that's my only issue
[G1 General] hornsfan:
I have to say, my 8525 did a much better job with no GPS on Google Maps than my G1. I disable use of any wireless location and use GPS only with Google Maps. Otherwise I am all over the place. Takes longer though but in the long run is much more accurate. The 8525 always located me within a very close radius. So much more useful on the fly when you needed information within a few seconds.
[G1 General] neoobs:
But I don't blame google for that since T-Mobile maintains the towers. If the towers coordinates are off than that is what is going on. Maybe tell T-Mobile tech support this (if they understand anything about this at all)
[G1 General] beartard:
I have to agree with the OP. I never had trouble with aGPS on my Dash. When it couldn't get cell-tower information, it would tell me and wouldn't show "my location" on the map. Usually, it was spot-on (within 1000m) using cell towers and was *always* correct using a bluetooth GPS unit.

So far, with the G1, whenever I've *needed* GPS, it's fallen short of the mark. It always works when I'm playing with it, but when I'm in a pinch and need the information, it's wanting.

Just the other day I was in a part of the city I'm unfamiliar with. I was trying to get to an industrial supply house I'd never been to before. So I figured the G1 could help. I waited for a while, figuring the first lock would take some time. It did, but when it finally locked and the blue circle shrank to a point, it showed me driving fairly quickly down the runway at the airport over 10 miles away. I was pulled over at the time. I hit "my location" once more and the map did update....and showed me in Africa. The whole time, it had the "locked" GPS icon with no "circle of uncertainty."

I won't debate the terms and use of aGPS and GPS, etc. I'm just concerned that it doesn't locate me correctly.
[G1 General] neoobs:
Just wondering... were you connected via 3G at the time?

I have yet to notice any of this and even use gps trackers to track my locations. So far they have always been spot on. GPS can't be flawed like that. But aGPS could since it never gets a real lock... it uses outside data to try and get a lock. If the cell towers have the wrong coordinates than of course you are, lack of a better word, screwed. But you should be calling t-mobile and telling them the issue so they can fix it. Google isn't responsible if this is the case, which is the only logical reasoning.
[G1 General] beartard:
Yes, I was connected to 3G at the time. I live and work in the city, so it's always on. As for responsibility, I wasn't placing blame on either company. It's hard to say whose fault it is, but I'm leaning toward either the hardware itself or the software's interaction with it. As I said, Google Maps on my Dash worked flawlessly with cell-tower info or external GPS...in the same general area. It might've put me within a thousand meters or so, but it never had me driving down an active runway ;)
[G1 General] neoobs:
But the Dash is 2G... the 3G towers have already been known to have problems since the G1 came out and it couldn't even pinpoint your location because the data wasn't on the tower yet.
[G1 General] lastscout:
I have had a similar problem to the OP: often, the GPS shows me on a street parallel to the one I'm on. Other times, I will jump around the map. It's usually pretty darn close, but it's almost always just a bit off.

Houston has a good 3G network downtown, and I'm always connected to it. It's usually within a 1 block radius of my actual position, but it's often 2 or 3 blocks off. This can get frustrating when trying to navigate downtown with loads of one-way streets.
[G1 General] neoobs:
Are these actual fixes? or are these like those big blue circles? You know how it says "your location within xxx meters"

I think too many people think it is showing the wrong position when really it hasn't locked on you yet... For instance with me it sometimes says 3000 meters... That is a big gap... of course 3 seconds later it is within 10 meters
[G1 General] lastscout:
I always assumed they were actual fixes because the GPS had been on for a long time, and there was never an obstruction of my view of the sky.
[G1 General] cnhws:
anyone fix the problem ?

Anyone has fixed the problem yet ?

I used RC33 and found the same problem.
[G1 General] dissonance:
I'll agree with neoobs here. I'll also add that if the gps is still trying pinpoint you, you'll notice the green waves on the gps icon in you notification bar will be blinking. It's the agps that is guessing your location wrong.
[G1 General] AsaSpades:
The same thing with me, im in Houston also
[G1 General] StangAK:
Same Problem

I started having GPS problems about 3 weeks ago, yes been through it all, GPS is on, GPS never connects, using GPS Status download from market shows satellite or 2 but never connects and doesnt always show them.