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[Touch HD General] popoval:
Player

Hi.

is there a good free media player?

i have tried the TCPMP but it does not play files smoothly.

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks.
[Touch HD General] Avenue90:
@tnyynt

Could you please post a Screenshot of the SUPER Converter Window?

Because i cant play those videos which i've converted...

Options are:

1.) Select Output Container

2.) Select the Output Video Codec

3.) Select the Output Video Codec

But what exactly is FLV in AVI @560x304 pix. @ 1200 kbps video & 128 kbps audio
[Touch HD General] nguyentritam:
Kingconvert for HTC Touch HD playback video smoothly on my HD!

Hi everybody! I downloaded Kingconver for HTC Touch HD 4.0.0 yesterday and played with Coreplay very smoothly.
[Touch HD General] rovex:
Tried it (king convert) but output is distorted and horrible quality, good job i didnt buy it at $29.99!
[Touch HD General] jalv3000:
Back to MP4 H.264 and 800x448

Well seams that there are two big options here:

1.- Use Core Player with FLV files

2.- Use Window Media Player with MP4 files.

booth can have good quality, but MP4 with WMP seams to me the

best option for 1080 or 720 HD content -> To the HTC HD 800x480 display

I have used Super for converting the next clip, with

MP4 container

H.264/AVC video codec

AAC LC audio codec

Video size to : 800 x448

23.976 fps

1400 kbps

-> The source is a 1080 Video clip TV recorded (Madona 4 Seconds song)

So far this is the best quality I have seen including all the previous videos

posted in this Thread

This is the link to the video:

So it seams to me that you can get GREAT QUALITY with out expending any money in a conversion program.

PM:

WMP in most of the situations make a litle lag at the beggining

I think this is due to the Buffering or initialization

Does anybody knows how to increase the buffer size for WMP?
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
Yes, u can.. >>> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=448707 <<<
[Touch HD General] jalv3000:
Thanks

These are global parameters for all the GDI :

HKLM\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\limit

or the filesystem:

HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\EnableCache

HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS\CacheSize

HKLM\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt\Rep lStoreCacheSize

But my question is for just the WMP, I mean if there is a way to tell WMP to preload

in memory x seconds prior to start playing.

I think If there is a way to change it, will be the solution to the starting lag.
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
For WMP itself i have no idea actually. I got the same problem as u about the lag at the beginning of the video but apart from that i got no issue whatsoever.

I watch converted Step Up 2 on my HD, got a lag at da beginning for about 2 mins then after that it was smooth till the end.
[Touch HD General] jalv3000:
Yes will be good to find out how to deal with the lag,

It dosnt appears allways, for example (Madona 4 Seconds song) runs very well through all the video
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
I know for certain that if the native resolution of the video before u convert is greater than 800*480, and if u choose 1500kbps bit rate u will end up with the lag. So u need to choose 900kbps instead to reduce lag.
[Touch HD General] Roopert:
Anybody tried the polaris driver as discussed in this thread? Maybe the video playback will be better...
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
Does it has anything to do with video playback?

Does it properly support HD?

If both answer is yes, ill give it a try.
[Touch HD General] Taxythingy:
Hi all!

I've been doing some trial encoding in H.264 over the last couple of days and thought I would share my findings. The intention was mostly quality over file size, with the requirement that there were no obvious dropped frames.

The basics:

Super encoder

MP4 container

H.264 baseline codec, high quality

AAC LC codec 128/48kHz stereo

WMP

Chose the Ironman trailer to trial this :D

640x360 @ 864b: Rare blocking & carryover, generally very good

640x360 @ 1008b: Nice and smooth

640x360 @ 1392b: Extra smooth and buttery, but not really better than 1008b

736x414 @ 1008b: Blocking starting to appear in black scenes

800x450 @ 1008b: Blocking noticeable in fast / dark scenes, but tolerable

800x450 @ 1392b: Very nice, but drops occasional frames in big explosions, etc

I found that the increase in detail by going from 640x360 up to 800x450 wasn't significant, but required larger files and resulted in dropped frames, even when run from the internal storage. Tried increasing cache sizes but couldn't remove this problem.

I've decided on 640x360 @ 1008b as my sweet spot and will use this on future encodes. A slightly lower bitrate would probably be fine, but I'm picky about the blocking/carryover as well as dropped frames. I don't see moving to a 800xsomething resolution as necessary or meeting my expectations of smooth video playback.

Just my two cents, but hopefully it helps :)
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
Thats the problem Super cant solve. Try Aimer instead and convert in 800x480, u will c the different.
[Touch HD General] Vinski-:
Explain me again why Aimer would do any better job in that conversion, if used same codec/settings?

I tried Aimer, but I was very annoyed that it doesnt support multicore processors very well, wich makes it slow on conversion. Super has also the same problem.

For experienced users who wanna have more control and precise tweakability, I would recommend Staxrip

Videora does also very good job, and its also pretty user friendly
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
Its already explain in my TUT. Just visit my signature.
[Touch HD General] kangyal:
Core Player 1.3 is out

check it out on the home page. www.coreplayer.com
[Touch HD General] Vinski-:
Not really big update for the blackstone users, still no hardware acceleration. Any idea if the coming 2.0 will require new license?
[Touch HD General] leon5139:
hi there,

thanks for the .cab. works a treat on my touch HD. Will purchasing a card with a faster transfer rate improve things any further than as they stand at the moment? all media at the moment plays flawlessly and even viewing pictures off the sd card are a lot faster.
[Touch HD General] kieboy:
I may have missed out something here...the video you posted was great and it fits the entire screen once I turn the full screen on. I have tried to convert a .vob file and I get a widescreen perspective (portions cut on top and bottom). Do you have a preferred aspect size or the video scale size already sets it for you? Or the reason why I'm getting a widescreen is because the movie itself is? It still looks good, though I wish I could fill up the entire screen 'coz its better..like in your movie. Thanks.
[Touch HD General] hungera:
very useful post, thanks.:)
[Touch HD General] zsilak:
What i don't understand is that my dell x5ov used to play anything at full vga resolution and that was like 4 years ago.
[Touch HD General] JetMouse:
Hi Tnyynt - i've used your settings and have encoded my .avi video - but it's reduced the file size from 500mb to 90mb and the video is now unwatchable as it's missing most of the frames - would you know why would this be?
[Touch HD General] Bugblatter:
That had a graphics chip in it and CorePlayer was quickly updated to take advantage of it. My Look 720 didn't have a graphics chip and 640x480 video was a little tricky; you had to be careful with the encoding to get it to play without dropped frames.

I'd love to know what the graphics hardware in the Touch HD is really capable of, both for video acceleration and 3D graphics acceleration.

Even the 2D stuff should benefit enormously if someone manages to write a half-decent graphics driver for it. Imagine how slow your PC would be if you just used the generic VGA graphics driver on it, and how much you'd be missing in terms of functionality. Well apparently that's normal for WM.

It's certainly not normal for the iPhone, and presumably for Android phones, so they'd better get their act together quickly.
[Touch HD General] kieboy:
Hmm according to the guide, its supposed to be a .avi file and flash video as output codec, not flash and flash video.

I used this settings and it works perfectly:

but hey, if it work then it works :) as long as you're satisfied with the results then its all good :)
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
Is it just me or coreplayer 1.3.0 has remarkably improved performances? No idea why, though.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
On the contrary, I find benchmarking the same file up to 5% slower on CorePlayer 1.3.
[Touch HD General] kautilya:
Will this SD tuneup work in other phones as well? Like my HTC P3300/Artemis with stock Windows Mob Pro 6 (not 6.1)?
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
I'm not sure it will run on 6.0, never tested though...
[Touch HD General] wisniak:
Is this CAB compliant with the Tilt or Kaiser?

I searched the long thread but was not able to find a definitive answer.

I don't play videos on my Tilt, but I'd certainly like faster access to my micro SDHC card.

I opened the XML file to see the registry entries to be added, can't say that I've seen them in any tweaking app (Kaisertweak, Schaps advanced config), and after checking the registry in the appropriate keys, they aren't there at the moment.

So are these completely new keys? (at least for the Tilt).

Thanks.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Should be compatible with any device that has SD Card (SD, mini, micro) and which runs stock Windows Mobile 6.1.
[Touch HD General] wisniak:
Thank you.

I understand it should be installed to Device?
[Touch HD General] ciao du:
60%

Hi Tnyynt

Thanks for your work and time!

Unfortunately, i havent seen the benchs most of the guys are seing.

Downloaded the first test video (sevenpounds).

Got it to a bench of 60% only.

Here is some more info:

Installed the Card Speedup Cab (thanks)

MicroSD is of type 2

Benching wich TCPMP Version 0.72RC1 (is this the reason?)

Any hints appreciated, Txs!

CD
[Touch HD General] mil_2007:
Tnyynt, great job! :D
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Yeap, that it is!
[Touch HD General] jeremy14:
Which player should i use on my Blackstone to play movie files??
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
The best solution at the moment is the commercial software called CorePlayer.
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
I don't benchmark, I watch. I tried the same file at the same minute and it looked smoother on 1.3...
[Touch HD General] Fking1:
doesnt seem to work for me

i tested with the latest Prison Break episode

video specs:

MPEG4

codec: CoreASP

size: 624x352

frame rate: 23.976

the benchmark in CorePlayer (lastest version) was giving around 93%

after i installed and restarted, it gives between 90 and 98% (depending for how long i benchmark)

I'm not sure if 3 times faster means that if i had 93% before i should have almost 300% now?

Btw, I installed the fix cab in the main memory if that does matter?

And last question, if u uninstall it, does it restore my settings?
[Touch HD General] TORB:
Stoopid ? about videos

I don't watch videos much on my Shoe Phone but wanted to try it out.

The file that came loaded on the HD (little girl blowing bubbles) worked. I then downloaded a couple of wmv files but I can't get them to play.

Is Mobile Windoze Media Player meant to play these or not? If not, is there a simple way round the problem, As I hardly ever use this feature, I don't want to muck around for hours learning the ins and outs of a ducks bum... so to speak.

I have installed the SD Tune up cab in the first post, but the rest of that post could have been double Dutch, or Zulu even, for the amount of sense it made to a technical cretin like me. :o
[Touch HD General] Rizlo:
Now where did the "three times faster" thing come from?
[Touch HD General] notaliberal:
Not Working On Juno (shadow)

After I install this on my t-mobile shadow (HTC Juno) running the HTC WM 6.1 ROM, my storage card doesn't show up after the soft-reset.

Upon uninstalling this, however, my storage card is fine (thank goodness!)

I tried it three times, and every time my SD card (only 4G) didn't show up after the reset.

Any ideas as to why? Can this be fixed? I'd really like to see the speed increases everybody else is seeing...

Thanks,
[Touch HD General] jalv3000:
Well CorePlayer is the best Multiformat Player for the HTC.

But If you want the best quality using the HTC hardware Aceleration,

The way to Go is:

Window Media Player included in WM 6.1

And using MP4 files no matter the resolution you use ( allways less then 800x480) ,

I'm acutualy converting everything I want to see to MP4 using Super,

And the framerate is perfect

-> Leave the Video size as No change

-> Put Frame/sec to 23.976 or 25

-> Bitrate From 900 - 1300

-> High Quality

-> 44100 Audio with 1228 kb

Sample 800x448
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
Yes, everything is reversible via uninstalling the cab.

You are most probably missing a dll, such as diskcache.dll, fatfsd.dll, fatutil.dll or the sdhc driver itself.
[Touch HD General] notaliberal:
thanks for the reply.

i have all of those except, of course, the sdhc driver. well, there's nothing in my windows folder that starts with sdhc anyways...

any way to download and install that driver?

thanks,

jeff
[Touch HD General] kieboy:
If you don't mind the file size, I'm talking about 1GB down to 120+ MB conversion, just download the super converter (the best converter, and its free!) then use this setting: (or you can try the other settings posted by tnyynt, but I think it needs coreplayer)

you can watch this movie with the stock windows media player or the player in the 'photos and video' tab.

By the way, not only it's smooth, its super crisp too.

HTH
[Touch HD General] N!ghty:
hm.. i just installed it because i wasnt quite content with the playback.. i use core player and played a 624x352 (23 fps / 92 kbps) and i got 93%.. exactly same playback like before :\
[Touch HD General] reidar.ostrem:
Hi ..

I can't understand that you guys are playing crisp and smooth MP4 files on your Touch HDs.. I was pretty happy to see that I could benefit from the hardware acc. if i converted the movies to MP4. But no, i've been trying to convert with numerous different settings but the damn videos are still lagging.

I'm currently using tnyynt recommendations in the first post Flashvideo in AVI container, this works pretty well for me ( about 113-115% in CP benchmark ). But I'm very interessted to get the hardware acc. in use :)

Any toughts on why the MP4 files are choppy ?

tnx.
[Touch HD General] BartekG:
Perhaps you have other applications running in the background and taking up memory.
[Touch HD General] Nightstalker79:
Which version of CP are you running? Before I was running 1.1.2 which is choppy, so I switch to GDI, it was better but the quality was kind of pixelated around the edges. After installing version 1.2.5 where it get hardware accelerations that is when quality and speed was top notch, didn't even bothered to convert my divx movies to flash container, excellence performance overall.
[Touch HD General] Chris Cross:
Help! Nothing really works for me.

Okay, I've been trying to figure out why my HD plays just about all videos choppy. Even the ones that people here have posted and said they are smooth, well they are not smooth at all on my HD and the audio+video are often out of sync. Benchmark settings on CorePlayer give me around 50% or less!

Here are some issues.

1. I cannot open .flv files. When I try to open them from Explorer, it says that there is no program associated with that type of file and that I should open the file from within a program. So, I tried opening Coreplayer and from there open the .flv files but CorePlayer does not show them in the library. I also didn't find them on the files association list in CorePlayer.

2. I have installed the .cab for card reading improvement. I have soft-reseted my phone. Still - no improvement. I have an original ROM.

3. With every single video I have tried to play (including the ones posted in this thread), I don't see anything in QTv display mode (only a purple screen) and I only hear the audio. DirectDraw, Raw..., GDI give me both audio and video.

4. What has worked the best so far is the suggestion to use Super and convert to:

Microsoft-Zune mp4, Divx, AAC-LC as seen in earlier in this same thread. And then play it using the native AlbumPhoto Program on the HD. Here I also notice that the navigation bar that appears (play/pause/scroll etc..) is really slow and choppy when appearing and disappearing.

Well, my issue must be something more universal, because EVERY video is choppy at some point. Some videos are extremely choppy and others are annoyingly choppy at best. :(

I hope you guys can help me.

Here are some storage specs on my HD in case anyone is curious.
[Touch HD General] Trixster101:
I find these settings work perfectly for my HD, just benched one of the saved videos (results below) and it played without any stutters and in high quality. Hopefully these will help some of you out there :)

Player: Coreplayer 1.25

Convertor: Super

File Format: MP4 using DivX Codec with AAC LC for Aaudio Codec

Video Size: 560 x 304

FPS: 25

Video Bitrate: 720kbps

Audio Freq: 22050

Audio Channel: 1

Audio Bitrate: 64kbps

Benchmark Results

Avg Speed: 113.86%

Frame Rate: 28.45

Sample Rate: 25559

Data Rate: 863kbps

These settings might not work for everyone but the file played perfectly without any problems at all, so I hope that this helps someone..
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
Just correcting you, CorePlayer doesnt have Qualcomm hardware accelerations, not even in 1.3

With Video Bitrate: 720kbps, i dont think u can call it high quality.

This is 1500kpps video i converted. Play this with WMP and compare to yourself.
http://rapidshare.com/files/174535773/Jojo_-_How_To_Touch_A_Girl.mp4
[Touch HD General] rovex:
Smartmovies convertor produces videos that coreplayer will play well enough. The output is a bit soft because the resolution is low (best i could get was 480x360), but its acceptable and quick. Handy if you already have it installed.
[Touch HD General] Nightstalker79:
I don't know if QTv support is hardware or not, but it definately improves video quality and I am pretty sure it won't work for anything other than qualcomm chipsets.

edit: I was misinformed on another forum, after looking it up with google, Qtv is much like GDI from microsoft but then optimised for qualcomm chips.
[Touch HD General] reidar.ostrem:
Hi..

Using the latest 1.3.0.. And not running any processes in backgound exept activesync..

I have no idea why the MP4 files are choppy.
[Touch HD General] reidar.ostrem:
I see you get a bench of 113%, and thats what i'm getting with flash in avi container.. The video is playing ok, but there are occational framedrops.

Lets hope that CP do fully support qualcomm chips soon.
[Touch HD General] Trixster101:
Nope, I meant high quality as in the check box within Coreplayer. I know 720 is not a high quality setting as such but tbh when I run vid's with 1200kbps the video files stutters during some parts of the playback.

The settings I have display a perfect picture on my hd and I suffer no stutter at all in either audio or video.
[Touch HD General] Nightstalker79:
Have you got diamond tf3d configurator or gyrator installed, those 2 seems to have messed with my registry, even without them running in the background. Also have you tried increasing buffer size, cause thats the only setting that I have changed. Other than that I have several other things running in the background without framedrops.
[Touch HD General] vosszaa:
Y dont u try my TUT and play along with the 1500 kbps video that i post earlier?? u will know how to convert and play 1500 kbps without frame dropping.
[Touch HD General] DDBrain:
I also find these settings work perfectly for my HD, but make sure you play the film by MWP not the core player, otherwise you will see serious lag.

The setting can get almost 30 fps, and CPU won't have over loading.

For example : a film scale size 640x480 or 800x480

1. Select the Output Container: mp4

2. Select the Output Video Codec: H.264/AVC

3. Select the Output Audio Codec: AAC LC

4. Select bit rate as : 1200

5. Select fps as : 30

Free converter tool : Super_v2008.33 http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_encoders/super.cfm
[Touch HD General] kensong:
I don't know if I am the only one but my 16GB microSDHC got wiped out when I woke up this morning. I had the SD TuneUP running fine for the last 3 days until this morning. I have SPBbackup run every morning at 5.00am so I don't know what triggered it.

8GB worth of stuff just got erased! I cannot even read or mount the card on my MacbookPro. Mounting it through the HD's Drive Mode threw an error that card could not be read and was given tht option to format which I did.

Good thing I backed up my card 3 days ago when I installed SD TuneUP. COuld it be caused by this? I've never had my card erased in my 6 years using PPC.
[Touch HD General] johnpatcher:
I have experienced that cheap cards with spaces more than 4 GB have some problems. I have also an USB stick, which gets erased from time to time just by itself.
[Touch HD General] wisniak:
This happened to me about a week ago with my Sandisk 4GB micro SDHC card, after I installed this cab.

It started behaving strangely, then was not readable at all, even by a technician using specialized equipment.

I had an older copy of the SD card on my disk (about 1 month old), and could recreate all updated apps (I have them saved on disk). The calendar & contacts were restored via ActiveSync.

Now it sounds easy, but I spent about 5 night over this....

The thing is, I can't really be certain that this cab was the culprit. But for me this was the 1st time ever I've a card die on me.
[Touch HD General] tnyynt:
To both of you, the answer is

most definitely not

. The cab does not change the way cards are accessed and it will not change anything related t card write, just card read, and you can see that while benchmarking.

I've been running this tweak from day 1 on my Blackstone and for a very long time on other devices. I strongly believe it has nothing to do with your data loss.
[Touch HD General] wisniak:
Most probably it was a coincidence.

Do these registry edits create/change some sort of write buffer to the card? If so, here could be a danger of data corruption.