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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nummelin:
Hello

I've just started to read about ROM and update. I noticed that I've rom version 1.90 and I tried to download the update from htc website, but when I write the serial number of my mobile it says its not possible to download the update for my htc touch pro. Someone knows why?

I also have some noob questions about updates...

What's a Radio update?

Whats the difference between the diffentes rom update (Elite Project- RC3, Energy rom, Neptroni,....)??

I've really no idea about ROM... :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
If you didnt buy your phone from HTC directly then im not sure if you can update through there site because your phone wont be registered with them, not sure about that though. But if you look at the WIKI (link on my first post) then it has all the latest Stock Roms to try. Without flashing HardSPL you will only be able to upgrade one from your exiting carrier.

If you want to try custom Roms then you will need to flash HardSPL. The different Roms just contain different setups and different programs, you will have to look at each Rom to see what they contain and pick one based on your needs. They are all pretty much the same.

The Radio is the Firmware that works between the Operating System and the Cellular Hardware. It handles the Sound, Camera, GPS, Phone Calls, etc. The Radio must be compatable with the ROM's Operating System or you may experience problems with your sound and camera.

Hope that answered your questions :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Nummelin:
Thanks for the answer, ill check the wiki.

One more question, the radio firmware also fir the gps problem? As I read the answer is no...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Yentz:
The HTC Touch Pro came out for US Cellular on friday and I bought it. I'm not sure if it is gsm or cdma. If someone could help me out on how to tell what it is or if you could just tell me what it is that would be awesome.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
I haven't heard of US Cellular, but odds are it's CDMA; I'm pretty sure only att and t-mobile run gsm in the US. All you need to do is check to see if there's a sim card (or try googling cdma us cellular, it's not that hard, is it?). If there's no sim card, it's cdma.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Yentz:
Sorry, I'm not so sure what a sim card is. If that is the same as a sandisk for extra storage, then my phone does have that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
If you don't know what a sim card is, odds are you don't have one. Again, try google, it is your friend. You shouldn't go near a rom update utility until you know some of the basics, like how to tell if a phone is gsm or cdma.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Yentz:
It is CDMA. Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
look in *THIS* thread to see what you can do with your phone
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] unclemonkey77:
Hangs after about a day...

Hi, wondering if anyone can help me with this... I go through the process as was described in this post. Once completed I start using the phone and installing my programs. It will work for about a day or so and then programs will start to hang. The whole device will then hang and when I soft reset it will sit at the boot screen and go no farther. It doesn't seem to matter which ROM I try (various 6.5 ROMs, 6.1 ROMs). I installed HardSPL prior to the flashing. Has anyone seen this or heard of it? I've searched through the thread and haven't found anything. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Can you provide as much information about your phone as you can find. Go into the bootloader and all information on that screen including the SPL, also phone model and radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Two questions: Are you doing a hard reset after the flash (when you get to the align screen step)? And are you doing something ill-advised like doing a full Sprite restore from an old ROM onto the new one?

Do this: do a hard reset, don't install anything or restore anything, use the phone a few days and see how things go. If there are no issues, you're doing something wrong post-flash (and you're doing it reproducibly, so cheers to you, lol).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] unclemonkey77:
Thanks a ton for giving this a look. Here's what I have.

ATT Fuze

From bootloader:

RAPH110

SPL-1.90.OliNex

MicroP-Raph (LED) v13

MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5

PSOC-Raph STAGE_CUT v0x36

I've performed the hard reset after ROM install each time I've flashed (except once...forgot until the customizations were doing their thing, but the device acted the same as it had before). I haven't done a full Sprite backup/reinstall...currently I'm trying to not use ActiveSync at all after the flash to see if there's anything happening there. I'm getting all my contacts, etc., back onto the phone using MS MyPhone. Current ROM is Shep's WinMo 6.5 v.3h. Thanks again...and let me know if there's any other info I can provide that might help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Can you go into the device settings and five me the Radio and Rom version? Habe you tried any 6.1 Roms? Or even flashing back a stock Rom as sometimes that can fix problems after flashing a custom Rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] unclemonkey77:
ROM: 5.08.502.1 WWE

Radio: 1.02.25.32

I've tried 6.1 ROMs (NrGZ, to be specific). Seemed to last longer but still had the same result. Haven't gone back to the stock ROM yet but I guess that's the next step. Thanks again for your help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Flash a stock rom back to your phone from the wiki and see how that does. If that seems ok then try flashing a custom rom back and make sure you do the hard reset after. Let me know how you get on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] coop3422:
step 4 under using HardSPL has me a little confused. It says to follow the steps in the RUU. Well I serched that thread to see if someone else had a question about this. Someone did, and mskip said the RUU file is usually in the ROM file. So I downloaded the Mystic ROM, and I have a file RaphaelWrapper.exe (which mskip said was the same as the RUU file). I double clikced it but can't open the file on my computer. I don't want to start flashing my phone until all the steps make sense, so if any of you could help, I'd really appreciate it

In my defense, I did search first :P lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] coop3422:
Ignore my post about the RUU, I figured that part out. Now my problem is, I have my Fuze connected via active sync, I double click the RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe file and I get a .NET Framework Initialization error. Any ideas? Thanks guys
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thehyecircus:
I highly suggest commenting that MicroSD Card Flashing is much more secure and has a much lower chance of failure. If I had known that, I'd be happily fiddling with my newly flashed phone instead of being in this potentially-bricked hell. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] coop3422:
hmmm, well I was going the HardSPL, when through the stpes in the RUU, got to the point where it started to load, then I got an error 202, and my screen went black. So I got an error, but my phone is doing what was said it would. Oh well, guess I'll give it 10 minutes to see if it reboots if not I'l have to unplug it and hope I didn't brick it
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] coop3422:
Just finished flashing, and winmo 6.5 is running strong. It even fixed some headaches that the at&t rom was giving me, like setting up rogers internet. Thanks for the great tutorial, much appreciated :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Actually it doesnt have a lower chance of failure as long as the steps are done right with the activesync method. I personally never flash via microSD Card because using the RUU you have more safety and recovery features if anything does go wrong. I have had more bad flashes using microSD Card and would always recommend flashing via activesync.

What problem do you have with your phone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Glad you got it all working eventually and thanks for the running commentary on your progress :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Yeah, we need more of those. That was funny stuff.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Griswold:
Just curious, what is the reason for the hard reset at the alignment screen? I have skipped it quite a few times with no apparent negative results.

Thanks

Gris
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DaveShaw:
Here's the discussion : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=501143

For a quick summary see my posts and stepw's (first few pages)

Ta

Dave
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Griswold:
Thanks for the link Dave. Exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate it. I searched the Raph forums and couldnt find anything. That thread was odd. Started dumb then gets smart. Usually its the other way around.

Thanks

Gris
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] coop3422:
well what can I say, I like to put a smile on peoples faces :D

Still need to change some stuff, but overall I'm loving 6.5, kills at&t's stock rom thats for sure
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PzykoSkillz:
Mine keeps saying error. I know the phone is synched w/ my PC b/c the bootloader screen shows up on my phone and it turns black. Then the progress bar doesn't go anywhere and it says to check my connection between the two...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Install Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 on your pc, reboot and then try again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ckasek:
thanks for this thread, followed your steps and flashed my Fuze the other night without any problems. Was definitely nervous about flashing my 2 day old phone, as the last piece of hardware I flashed was my 47" HDTV, which I managed to brick. Doh! At least the Fuze would have been cheaper to replace, lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PzykoSkillz:
So I need to have it on my PC and my Touch Pro? Thanks. I'll try it in a little bit...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
You need 3.5 on your pc; doesn't matter if it's on the phone or not.

Good lord, didn't know you could flash a tv. Hope you're not married, lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] PzykoSkillz:
Thanks man. I'm ready to do it now...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bignerd972:
mrskip, you are the man.. This is very informative!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dashingdon:
Very well written

This guide is written so well , It took my fear out of flashing and bricking the phone :D. Job well done.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tetengo:
flashing hardspl

I have a quick question, i have flashed my first rom before but i didnt preformed a "flash hardspl" what problems if any will i encounter later?

do i have to perform it if i want to flash a different rom later?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wantobe:
Question about ROMS or settings

I flashed my first ROM the other night (I was just drunk enough to have the courage, but not to drunk to completely screw it up.) I liked some parts, but didn't like others (I won't say which ROM, though), but one reason I wound up flashing back to the original ROM is that one feature I absolutely must have is the voice calling. With the new ROM it didn't work "out of box", and I couldn't find any setting for it.

Did I just miss something, or is that a feature most people don't use so chefs don't add it in? Is there a quick way to tell if a ROM has it? Or, more importantly, if I did miss something, where do I turn that on once the new ROM is installed?

If it is a feature most people don't like, I'll never understand why. I can say "call <contact><location>" or "dial <number>" and almost always get my call through the first time. I love that feature, and if a ROM doesn't have it, I can't use it no matter how nice it might be otherwise.

Anyway, thanks for the information you might have about this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Neliz_X:
After carfully reading a lot of information about flashing the raphael, I still have one question left.

I have a branded Touch Pro from T-Mobile, and I'm about to flash it with the latest official ROM released by HTC.

Suppose I have to go back to the original T-Mobile ROM for warranty reasons (i.e. phone malfunctions) is this possible without the hard-SPL?

As I'm not planning to flash any custom ROMS, I think I don't need hard-SPL.

Thanks for the trouble! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Since your phone is branded by T-Mobile, I don't think you'll be able to flash the HTC rom update without hard spl. If you had a Touch Pro that you bought directly with no contract from HTC, then you'd be good to go. But I suspect that you'll be carrier locked by T-mobile, and will only be able to upgrade to T-mobile rom releases.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
You need HardSPL to flash any Rom that isnt from your carrier therefore if you are with T-Mobile and want to flash an HTC Rom you need to flash HardSPL first. I would also advise flashing HardSPL as a safety measure.

If you ever need to go back to your original Rom then you can do so and then lastly flash Stock SPL.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eastside770:
i tryied to do the manuel install hardspl and i got error 240 file open what does that mean?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Try restarting the phone and computer and go through the process again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jnwright71:
Help - hardspl and active sync problem

Hi mskip, sorry for yet another newbie question on your great tutorial, but ...

- I tried to install hardspl this am

- All OK on the '2. flash hardspl' instructions, until I get the loading bar

- Phone screen goes black, but active sync drops the connection and approx. 1minute later, I get a correction error mesage from the hardspl install

- The phone then has to be disconnected from the USB and the battery removed / re-inserted to get the phone to switch back on

Any ideas ?

Note, this is a Vodafone branded model with stock ROM 1.90.161.5 WWE.

All I want to do is install the new stock ROM from HTC launched on 16/2/2009. can I run this without flashing hardspl first ?

Many thanks,

James
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jnwright71:
Many thanks. All worked fine and I have now completed the re-flash to the new WWE stock ROM from HTC. This is a huge improvement over the stock Vodafone ROM that my phone shipped with.

All I need to do now is find a fast and reliable browser as the version of Opera in this HTC stock ROM is crap.

GREAT guide, Thanks again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] BicolXpress:
thank u heaps :D. i didnt know ive done hard spl till i red ur post. now i can flash my touch pro t7272
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dunster:
Yes, I am a newby, so probably stupid question.

I have installed the last new stock ROM from HTC launched on 16/2/2009.Is this meaning that I can install the ROM Windows Mobile 6.5 beta?

Or do I need really your ROM from the first page?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
You need HardSPL to flash a 6.5 beta Rom. Once you have HardSPL then you can flash anything you like.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rodrigoeblanco:
Beautiful guide!

Thank you for everything you posted here, I'm enjoying a new rom now :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] itsAUG:
after installing .net 3.5 on your computer do you need to run a cab on your phone called "netcfcfg.cab" in order to flash hard-spl or any custom run? I was reading on some other sites and it suggested running this cab but i have no idea what it does. sorry i am a mac user and will be getting a fuze as soon as i sell my SE K850 but i do have an old tower that still has origianal XP on it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Im pretty sure you dont have to run netcfcfg on your phone as noone else that I have told to install it has had to. Just make sure .Net 3.5 is installed on your xp machine and you should be fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AndyJ91:
worked like a charm. thanks mskip :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smaniac:
Hello,

Great guide! I've never flashed anything in my life, and I decide to flash a new radio for better GPS. I was following the Hard-SPL part until I ran the application and it said it would delete all my data, is that correct? I thought flashing a radio didn't involve deleting anything.

Maybe there should be a section for upgrading only radio, so that people know what to do and what not to do.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
The ruu's all say that; they don't actually know what you're flashing (the person who wrote the ui just assumed you were doing a full rom upgrade). Still, it's a good idea to do a full backup before you do anything dramatic like a radio flash, especially if it's your first go round.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] black_mobility:
Mskip,

Thanks for these wonderful instructions. I flashed my first ROM last night and I cannot believe the difference in performance and functionality. Your directions are very easy to read and I appreciate the time you took to write them up.

To all the NOOBs that are reluctant to flashing, JUST TRY IT! Your FUZE will never be the same.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ShavedCivic187:
i keep haven problems with the HardSPL, it gets all the way 2 the progress bar then it doesnt move. And says the fone is not connected. Its connected and activesyne is connected also. PLEASE HELP.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Smaniac:
I flashed the radio yesterday, and it worked great. Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] elrasho:
Hi,

Im totally new to the HTC scene. I bought an XDA Serra from O2 which is the same as the HTC Touch Pro right?

I dont like the performance on it at all, seems very clunky and slow :-( So I want try installing a new ROM to help with the battery life and GPS problems. Can anyone recommend a good ROM to use? Ive heard good things about the PRoven 2.4 version.

Also I have read the tutorial on installing ROMS, what precautions should I take in order to prevent bricking the phone. Also where can I get the stock O2 Serra ROM for warranty purposes?

Thanks

BTW this is a great forum, so much information! WOW
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] raystryker:
Thanks!!!

I just flashed my first ROM! Thanks mskip! I was gonna wait untill I had it for a week or two and play around with it, but I've been waiting for my Fuze for months. This guide made it super easy and eliminated most of the "What if I brick my phone!?" anxiety. Thanks again from a noob!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ShavedCivic187:
Thanx, but still have the same problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Is your anti-virus software turned off? And what are you using, XP or Vista? You should really put a little more info into your post other that "it's not working." What phone are you using, for example. You're not on a mac with an xp emulator, are you? More info if you want help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dkobran:
Noob

I flashed my rom to the new AT&T test rom but I am sending my phone back. I did not flash SPL first because you dont need to with these "official" roms. So, I want to revert back to the original rom (the new one says test on the bootup and I am sure voids my warranty). My question is how do I do this? Does anyone know if I flash to the old rom if I have to flash spl or can I just do it? If so, where can I find a copy of this rom. Thanks!

I found a page with OEM roms on it but I dont know which one was on my phone to begin with. My understanding is if I flash the roms have to match, right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
If you flash the ROM at this link, it should take care of everything. since you haven't installed HardSPL, this will overwrite your ROM, Radio, and SPL to stock. All you have to do is connect the phone to your computer and run the updater.

You DO have a Fuze, right?

P.S. I sent a phone back for warranty exchange with that "Test Only" splash screen, and so far I haven't been charged anything - I don't think flashing an official (albeit leaked) ROM will actually void your warranty, but I don't really know.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] capnkalvin:
Backloading the OEM .cab

Semi-noob question.......................I have successfully flashed several ROM's and saw a thread saying that prior to flashing the new ROM I should reflash the OEM ROM. I have the original ATT .cab file that was loaded on my phone but there is no .nbh or RUU with the package. I tried to use the Raphael Wrapper and the custom RUU to download the .cab. The downloader stops with a message that says it is unable to open the source file. Is it necessary to reflash the OEM? If so how do I get it to download? Can I download only the OEM files for the OS as I am happy with the 1.12.25.19 radio and will only be flashing an OS ROM. Any help would be appreciated. (;ck
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] redbandana:
Nice tutorial thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] greezythumb:
confused

I'm brand new to all this so please bare with me here. The statements above to me seems like a contradiction. Flashing HARDSPL, before any customs stuff, ok. But you can't use this particular RUU while flashing HARDSPL if I'm gonna use custom ROMs? So if I'm gonna use a custom ROM, I'm gonna have to flash HARDSPL with a different RUU? Is that the idea? I'm lost.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
If you want to flash an OEM Rom then have a look in the WIKI for advise.

In my opinion its not really necessary unless you have problems after you flash, as flashing a Rom overwrites all blocks and files anyway.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Ok the line that states "[FONT=&quot]DO NOT use this RUU for anything other than SPL flashing (i.e. hardspl or stock spl restore)!!!" [/FONT]means that the ruu you downloaded in step1 of the flashing HardSPL guide should only be used for the purposes of flashing HardSPL and not for flashing Roms or Radios.

[FONT=&quot]If you want to flash a rom or radio, then use customruu from *HERE*[/FONT]
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fuzzycandy:
Okay, so I need some help. I'm not 100% sure I did everything right, but I downloaded the Hard-SPL package and tried to run the HARDSPL .exe file in there. I receive the following message

Any help would be much appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Do you have .NET 3.5 installed on your computer? What operating system are you running it from?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fuzzycandy:
Okay so I don't have .NET 3.5 installed. I went to do that and THIS gives me an error as well

"An error has occurred during setup"

I am running windows XP.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ShavedCivic187:
No anti-virus runing, using xp. Trying 2 flash a AT&T Fuze. Ive flashed roms b5 on my 8525, jus never had this problem
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] simpleman4:
hardspl problems

ive spent the last couple hours trying to flash hardspl to my fuze. i have tried via active sync and resolved a few issues by installing .netframework and have also tried to install via storage card. when using active sync i get error 202 and when i try from the sd card i get some error saying "file or assembly name or one of its dependencies was not found"etc. any suggestions?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
ERROR [202, 204] : CONNECTION

This error message will appear when the device is not connected to ActiveSync correctly.

Make sure you properly connect the device to the PC through ActiveSync before running RUU.

Try running the SSPLManual.exe file from your phone to get the screen in black mode then run the HardSPL file again. Its not meant to be run from storage card so never try that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ShavedCivic187:
Got it, i think Windows Defender was blocking it. Thanx 4 the help
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ehehat:
Since this is a noob thread, here is a noob question: i have an unlocked fuze and am using it on tmobile. if i were to use another official att rom (like the leaked test rom) would that cause my device to re-lock to att? thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CPCSR:
What is a good, stable Windows Mobile 6.5 Fuze ROM for someone who is not all that adventerous but wants to try 6.5 out? Thanks!