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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wardy125:
Hard SPL doesnt work??

Hey, im not a total noob at this, i managed to flash my old TyTN from 6.0 to 6.1 :P lol

but now im trying to flash my Touch Pro and when i run the Hard SPL thing - the screen goes black (fades out which i thought was it dieing :P) and then my pc comes back with an error saying it cant connect.

At the same time Win 7 comes up and says its installing device drivers for some CDMA device - but mines GSM because i have a SIM card?! :s

Any ideas?

Thanks :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Have you tried SSPLManual.exe?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wardy125:
:/ yeah i just did and it crashed straight away (the program not the phone)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
Yes, that "CDMA" driver is the right one. Once Windows installs it, you should reset your phone and try to run Hard-SPL again. Make sure your SIM & any Storage Card are removed. It can't flash Hard-SPL to your device without first installing those drivers, so that's likely why it didn't work the first time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wardy125:
ahh thankyou :)

i will try that
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wardy125:
ok so i think it worked - black screen and pc said it completed.

one question - do i NEED to flash a radio?

What happens if i dont - will i still be able to use the phone and text etc?? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
The Radio needs to match the Rom so if you upgrade from say WM6.1 to WM6.5 then you need to make sure that there is a matched Radio included with the Rom or that the Radio you have will work with the new Rom version. Im not sure if WM6.1 and WM6.5 uses the same Radios but I think they do.

Just do a bit of research first.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Bharatijanta:
Do I need to install a service CAB and MMS/SMS CAB?

I read somewhere that after installing a new ROM, we have to install a CAB for SMS/MMS and a Service CAB. Is that true? And what is the purpose of these CABS?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
I dont know where you read that but I have never needed to install any cabs to get sms or service working. Im pretty sure all modern cabs autoconfigure all that when you first load them up so I wouldnt worry too much about that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ss3:
WinMobile 6.5 ROM for Fuze

Ok My first post :)

I recently flashed my Stock Fuze ROM to NATF v4.7 based WM 6.1

This is rookie q but Can I flash custom ROM based on Winmobile 6.5 on my Fuze which currently is based on WM6.1. I know technically this is an upgrade but just wondering if I can flash 6.5 Custom ROM on Fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Yes. You can flash with any ROM here on the Raphael ROM Development section ( and most of them are now 6.5.3 now ! )

As far as i know and think ( might be wrong ) there is no official update WM6.5 from the various companies for Raphael.

Enjoy Flashing.

Don't worry.

But have the HardSPL.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bb00th:
I have read through numerous pages of this thread as well as searched through other websites and can not find my answer. Hoping someone here can help. I am trying to flash TPC_FUZE_V3.1-MANILA to my AT&T Fuze. I got the hardspl with no problems on the phone. When i open the RaphaelWrapper it goes through the rom utility and has no problems, until I click the update button at the end, it only shows that I am updating from 5.11.502.2 to 5.11.502.2 image files. Is this correct? Everytime I seem to try the phone loses connection and I have to remove the battery to get the phone back on (per the instructions on another thread here) the phone boots back up properly everytime so I haven't had any major problems there. I am afraid of bricking my phone now after attempting this for 2 days. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

EDIT* I have flashed the newer rom offered from HTC a few months ago and had no problems doing so.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Can you attempt it using the microSD Card method its alot easier just rename the nbh file to RAPHIMG.nbh, put it in the root of your card and put your phone in bootloader mode. Follow the onscreen instructions and you are good to go :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bb00th:
thank you

I will attempt to do this within the hour. Thanks for your suggestion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bb00th:
Thanks that worked fine! Now I hope I like the rom!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Glad it worked.

SD card is much easier and with least dependencies.

Just curious what OS were you using ?

And was it Acitve Sync U were using?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
If you dont you can just flash another one lol. Just make sure you have over 50% battery level when flashing via microSD Card as it doesnt check like it does when flashing via activesync.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bb00th:
OS was vista 64bit on laptop and was using active sync/windows mobile device center. SD card worked much much easier. I loaded up the v3.1 manilla and love it so far. If I keep it a while I will be donating. I read about a radio upgrade to use with this rom but it used the same steps as loading the rom from sd card. This will keep the current ROM and load the radio, correct?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Flashing a radio doesnt affect the rom in any way and wont overwrite it. Just make sure after you flash via microsd card that you delete the RAPHIMG.nbh file from the storage card so you dont accidentally set off a reflash.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CMOB:
Raphael you rock

Just showing some love man, since this upgrade i love my fuze now. Used to hate it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Manila 3.1 ??? Really :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Are you from the future ??

Like star trek or something or i'm dreaming :p:p:p:p:p:p

Lol !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nGm@ze:
Could not perform a hard reset

Hi guys

I in a serious situation here, yesterday i was installing Ezinput 2.1 on my phone then i rebooted my phone as instructed on the Ezinput 2.1 then i realize me phone is not booting then of course i knew i need to hard reset. Since i got everything prepared i even backed up all the file and programs installed on my phone in case of a hard reset, so i went ahead and go hard reset and it says something about 'No Image' when i boot in to the bootloader. So i went and tried the other method which is to use the stock RUU to recover my ROM(I'm using a stock ROM) then i followed the instructions and the recovery process progress, as i thought until it went up to 1% comes up with a error saying '[INVALID VENDOR ID]' which indicates i am installing the wrong ROM for my region, but i know i am installing the correct region since my stock ROM was WWE. Until i realized i installed the HTC Asian Charcters Support at the time when i brought the phon, so my phone could read Asian languages but i find out that the HTC Asian Character Support turned my phone to a CHT ROM, not really but if you go to Device Info it says CHT but before i flashed my ROM it says WWE. In conclusion i think this might be the issue because the RUU probably recongize my phone as a CHT when it is a WWE device , so if anybody have a solution to this problem please help. Thanks in advance.

nGm@ze
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
So is your phone still not booting beyond bootloader ?

You should go to HTC Support site and get the Latest ROM for your Region with CHT.

Flash that and then try the process again.

And i did not know that we can't flash another Regions ROM on another Phone.

Could you elucidate the problem please ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Hey MSkip.

One question for you buddy.

I don't know why is it necessary that the battery level should be above 50% for flashing and the SIM and SD should be removed ??

Could you explain Why ?

I understand that if the SD has a ROM file then it can conflict and start re-flashes.

But what has battery level and SIM to do with it.

I understand that battery should not be as low as 10% that it dies during flashing and creates a Brick.

But why 50% ?

And SIM what conflict does that create ?

Thanks.

Cheers. :D

Just want to increase my knowledge.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nGm@ze:
1.My phone didn't boot beyond the bootloader

2.I need a way to get a CHT Raphael ROM, but i can't because when i enter my serial number on HTC's website it only lets me download WWE ROMs so hopefully someone can be kind enough to provide a link for a CHT ROM or a serial number

3.If i delete the HTC Asian Characters Support i know my phone will revert back to WWE. But the main problem is i can't boot in to the OS which means i can't delete it

Hopefully someone will come up with a good solution, thanks in advance

EDIT: I got the problem solved now, sorry for wasting time people. However just to let you know how i solved the problem, firstly this is nothing related to my HTC Asian Character Support. So i went to try flash the stock ROM on another computer and it worked, it probably my WMDC is not working properly on Windows 7 in fact it always isn't working properly. I just can't get my phone syncing on WMDC but i can sync it through Activesync on my friends computer.

nGm@ze
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
I knew it !

Get the latest ACT SYN 4.5 for win7.

Much better.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Basically the 50% battery level is an extra safeguard. The figure isnt specific to anything, it could have been set to 30% or 40% but whoever designed the customruu program set it to 50%. I guess its to make sure you have absolutely no chance of power going when you are flashing and end up bricking your device. Its not possible to flash under 50% using customruu as it checks the devices level but flashing via microSD Card doesnt have any checks so extra precautions have to be taken then. Also you start getting battery low warnings at around 20% so you dont want that popping up half way through a flash.

The reason I have advised the Sim Card taken out before flashing is because if you flash a rom that has an auto setup then you dont want calls or messages coming through while programs and settings are being installed which could cause problems.

The reason I have advised the Memory Card taken out before flashing is just incase and UC files or auto setup files left on it from a previous flash arent installed by accident when they didnt want to be.

So basically all these advisements arent going to brick your phone if you dont do them but are good safety measures to take as the last thing you want to do to a £500 shiny phone is turn it into a useless paper weight.

Hope that helps clarify some things for you :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Oh thanks mate !

I assumed most of them :)

Most of my assumptions matched your explanations :)

Thanks a tonne :)

I for sure will continue to help nOObs on your thread as I was once a nOOb too, hence its my moral duty to help them as someone helped me that i'm able to do what i do.:)

cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] thakarpratik:
First time flashing

Hi all

I am trying to follow the instructions as closely as possible

I downloaded Raphael Hard SPL on my pc

Do i transfer it on to my Touch Pro to run it or not?

I do not have a Sd card

If i dont transfer it,when i double click on the RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3 .exe,

it comes up with THE APPLICATION FAILED TO INITIALIZE PROPERLY ,CLICK OK TO TERMINATE THE APPLICATION.

so i am stuck at the very early stage

Please help
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Glad for the help I have soo many threads to look after and projects im working on that sometimes I cant service them as often as I would like to :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
You run the installer from your pc and not the phone. Connect your usb lead, connect with activesync and run the program.

Do you have Microsoft .NET 3.5 installed on your pc? There is a link to it in the instructions if you dont already have it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Also please provide us with your OS on your PC.

And some people have reported this problem even though they had the .net3.5 framework the solution is install the .net 2.0 framework that seemed to solve the problems.

please provide more details.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nGm@ze:
Unfortunately ActiveSync don't work with Windows 7. And WMDC behaves randomly when i try to sync my phone via WMDC it loads then it comes up with a error but it just says the word 'error' on the error with a red x next to it. I know most people ask me what does the error say but thats what it says. I have tried a lot of solution to get it working but it doesn't work, even the solutions from Microsoft doesn't work. If you could help you would be welcome to, thanks in advance.

nGm@ze
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
You should try and get a SD card and flash a ROM through that.

I don't have any clue about Win7.

You could install a parallel OS ( XP or VIsta ) on which Active Sync works.

But SD card should be best.

Also try and search for the win7 solution on the forum.

I think you will get something.

I hope you find ur answer.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] margad:
WM6.5 OS software included in NEW ROM!?

Hello Mskip,

I have HTC Touch Pro with WM6.1. I bought it from HK. And I want to upgrade to WM6.5. One month ago, I upgraded my ROM from HTC HongKong support service.

ROM version:	1.90.831.3 WWE

ROM date:	09/08/08

Radio version:	1.02.25.19

Protocol version:	52.33.25.17W

After update!

ROM version:	5.07.831.2 WWE

ROM date:	02/19/09

Radio version:	1.11.25.01

Protocol version:	52.58.25.30U

Is it possible to upgrade just WM6.1 to WM6.5 without updating ROM?

In your instruction, ROM will be downgrade to 1.90.1.3 version.

Also please let me know where is WM6.5 OS software dll and exe files contain?

Does your WM6.5 looks like as followings?

Best regards,
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
If by upgrading you mean an official upgrade from HTC to W6.5 that had not yet come and will not come any time soon ( Or might never come ).

But, certainly you could upgrade to a Windows 6.5 ROM cooked by the Chefs of XDA you need to follow the steps on the frist page of this guide.

Its similar to official upgrade except that you MUST flash HardSPL.

You can find all the latest 6.5 ROMS with the latest Manila2.5 SENSE ( mostly all have SENSE now ) here

YOU MUST READ THIS GUIDE WELL.

AND THEN YOU CAN EASILY FLASH TO ANY ROM that suites your personality and choice.

And those screenshots you copied from MSkip's Sig are some other works of his they are not EXACTLY what 6.5 looks like go here or here and see the screenshots to see how your phone will look after a flash.

But be sure that your phone is GSM THAT IS WITH SIM CARD.

Any problem post freely. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eugeniyuk:
Windows7

Hello,

I have new PC with windows 7, I don’t know how to connect my htc touch pro in order to flash new ROM, Active Sink did’t work with Windows 7, pls Help
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Do you have WMDC6.1 installed?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
MSkip,

Sir do you think some Info on WIN 7 flashing should be added to the first few posts as quiet alot of people have shifted to WIN7 and have problems with flashing.

Or maybe they should be suggested the SD card method only ( maybe a few more details can be added to that SD card part of the post.

I think it would be good as people would read it then and there and have no doubts.

Anyways its up to you.

I'm sure you know what's best.

:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Warrow:
Thanks a lot for your instruction compilation! I managed to do my first flash right and am mighty pleased with it!! Even though the wifi is not working....

Appreciate the effort put in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Welcome to this wonderful world of XDA.

Don't worry you got many more flashes to go :)

Enjoy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] margad:
Thanks for your advice! Which ROM is much more stable and fast?

Do you have any recommendation on that?

I installed TAEL ROM v3.28008 Sense Edition in my TP. But I think it's specially designed for 1GHz processor. My TP's 528MHz.

Which ROM much more sample and same as default WM6.5?

Please let me know your recommendation!

B/R,
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
There is no answer to this question you have to try all ROMs and see which one is best for you.

I would suggest that manila 2.1 ROMs are much more stable and faster than 2.5 ROMs.

Also that COM8 BUilds are very fast.

But you should try all and then see which one suites you the best.

You could try NRGZ28's ROMs.

You could try CHROME ROMs by JMC.

You could try other versions of TAEL ROMs.

Even shEp's ROM are good.

You should try will take more time)

But stick with the one you like best !

And there is nothing like that about processor.

Manila2.5 is heavy on graphics so rungs better on leo's 1GHz processor.

But is completely fine for a 528MHz processor also.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Warrow:
I noticed you are on Vodafone and in Delhi. Could you help me with setting up the GPRS for Vodafone. I cant seem to get it running.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
I see you are on Phoenix ROMs.

I think you should hard reset ( centre+ vol dwn+reset for 5 secs )

and when you put in your sim a connection setup will pop up let it complete,

now in the advanced network on the settings tab(under connections) disable HSUPDA-> and in the connections tab uner settings there is another icon called connections hit that it will open ur EDGE/GPRS settings ( Delhi has EDGE not GPRS ) over there under tasks it should say Vodafone Live.

If it says Vodafone_WWW or something like that go to advanced settings in the same window ( upper finger friendly shift ) over there select the "select network options and chose Vodafone live for both work and Internet.

You should be done.

Maybe you can just check these settings without a hard reset if they still don't work do a hard reset and then check.

Also 3g should be off in the comm manager ( as well as HSUPDA should be disabled as i mentioned above as Vodafone doesn't have 3G yet. )

Any problem PM me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bafman:
Possible bricking of the phone

I have read the how-to and everything seems to be clear except one thing - what-if. My phone is under guarantee and my question is: "What if something goes wrong?". What is the recoverability, if battery dies or WM hangs in the middle of the upgrade process? I hve spoken with the vedor's (t-mobile) service company who repairs bricked phones and the answer from them was - bricked phone needs mobo replacing and that is very costly.

From every corner I hear extreme cases. Failed rom flashing == bricking phone. On the other hand response might be - I have flashed hundreds of devices with no problem. Can someone give me fair opinion on this?

Thank you
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Hey Bafman.

The possibility of a brick is only o.01% IF you follow the instructions properly and step by step.

There is nothing in this world which is risk-free.

And hence flashing is also not Risk free.

And most of the Bricks even if they happen can be unbricked with the help of the senior developers and unlockers of this site unless you have really messed up the device like for example if you flash a CDMA ROM that too of a Rhodium on your Raphael such idiotic cases are the extreme ones in which the MOBO dies and has to be replaced.

But minor brick like flashing without a HardSPL or maybe flashing a Wrong ROM.

Are mostly recoverable ( not that one should try them )

I would say that the 0.01% risk is worth taking.

And I can assure you, you will love your phone with a custom ROM.

And i have even seen cases here on XDA where the brick was not recoverable and what people did was that they tried the "MIcrowave" method which is that bake your phone in a microwave for some predefined number of seconds ( 7or 10 not sure ) and in those any seconds your internal memory is burnt and so are your MOBO wires.

Hence it falls under warranty and people get a replacement.

There is no end to possibilities but it is really really really rare that a person who followed instructions landed with a brick.

And during an update WIN can't hang as they are not booted.

Battery can't die because minimum battery requirment for a flash is 50% ( if you flash via PC )

And you should not worry so much.

BUt just be sure you have HArdSPL.

You flash a GSM ROM on GSM.

And A CDMA ROM on a CDMA.

Rest all should be fine.

And ofcourse in the worst cases you can act innocent and ask a replacement by threatening to sue them or microwave your phone :p:p

We all are here to help you.

Have a good flash !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] bafman:
Well I mean the other windows, which are used for PC updating, but good point anyway ;-)))

Thank you for the info, will give a try
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fmedrano1977:
Flashing

Hard SPL, I started it and went through the process once the loading screen starts phones cuts off and losses connection, then I get a message of cpu cant communicate with phone. Help someone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
Is your phone booting ?

Did you have an active sync connection ?

What hardSPL were you flashing and what phone do you have ?

Please give details.

And sorry to reply a day latter you must be anxious.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fmedrano1977:
Well at the time it will just go into the black screen and do nothing else but I got it going. I had disabled some USB ports a while back well I went back in and enabled all and then is when it picked up a USB connection when it went to the black screen. It's working great for me now. Thanks though!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
These kind of things happen.

Glad its working now :)

Enjoy

Keep flashing :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stylez:
Thanks mskip,

How easy was that lol apart from reset hole what??? Found it due to the ingenious thread search ;)

So 4 hours after purchase i'm ready for flashing :D

Peace,

stylez.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
Omg mate what on earth took you soo long haha

Happy flashing :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] stylez:
A 1 hour train journey, then a red hot moma pizza, had to play with stock just to be able to comparative flashed ROMs :D

Only just got to flashing the son being a royal p.i.t.a ;)

Will enjoy so much nicer than Kaiser
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mskip:
The raphael is an excellent device im sure you will have alot of fun with it lol.

Know what you mean about the son being a pain, we brough all our christmas snacks downstairs earlier and the little man wanted to open the quality streets and eat them 10 minutes before bed time haha. Had to come to a comprimise in the end coz he wouldnt stop crying, opened the tin and sorted out all the different types in piles so he could have '1' in the morning lol :rolleyes:

Kids...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
You just got a Raphael.

Hmmm...

People would call you different ( like its in fashion to dump Raphaels and get Rhodiums ) But, I'm sure you will love your Raphael !

Enjoy !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Deimos13:
Hi

I just want to say THANKS for this great guide, and for the work you´ve done to help other people.

It took me only several minutes to flash my Raphael.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jhernandez90:
RaphaelHardSPL-Unsigned_190_1_3.exe wont run it says to click okay to terminate any words on what i am doing worng or what im not doin at all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] madnish30:
You really need to provide more details what device,

what OS.

Where did you get the HardSPL etc etc.

Just provide the info about what all you did before you got this error.