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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
i am using the stock att rom and radio

the following appps i have installed:

htc app service

iplay jewel quest demo

diamond ati d3d driver

hot fix raphael its 10007

fdc soft taskmgr

xmickey keyboard fix......hd keyboard w/arrows

vicsoft clear temp

sushi diamond tf3d config

montecristoff diamond tweak

houming file explorer extension

fm radio 1.6.18174024.1

google maps 2.2.0.20

raphael mp3 trimmer

deepthoughts htourch

net cf 3.5

dk no rintone limit

shinob_uk no sleep

rre smart touch scroll wheel

spb screen shot

total commander

windows live

bemario

diamondbeerv2

lightsaber

advance config 3.3

att navigator

v4 flip clock stock htc

fabliv call history tab

diamond hologram

with all of this i dont have the people tab delay

i did not remap ptt on my devicee
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
i didnt think about that

ptt does use the contacts to call people

i ask everyone with people tab issue....did you remap ptt or not
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
Do you know what would have caused that?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] OlSarge:
I did a hard reset, so fresh stock OS minus the bloatware. No settings modified.

Only two Installed Apps:

Microsoft .NET CF 3.5

HERG62123 FUZE FLIP CLOCK

No other changes except for syncing my cal & contacts, then adding 13 to the people tab.

Still notice s brief delay of 2-3 seconds for the people tab.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Nautme:
This made no difference for me either. I have NOT mapped my PTT button. I use voice dial or dial from my calling history, so it's not a big deal, but it would be nice for my top contacts if it was quicker.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
hmmmmmm....ok i am working on v5 with the complete manila files for this to work so hopefully it will get fixed now

2 clock colors for htc stock theme:

1. black numbers/white flip action

2. white numbers/black flip action
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
hi, herg. Thanks for all your hard work. I see a little delay with the people tab compared to stock, but only 1-2 sec. so it's definitely worth it to have a better looking theme. I don't know much about creating/modifying manila themes, but I was wondering how are you creating your theme? Did you base it on an existing theme or did you copy all of the elements into the stock AT&T manila files? Would this make a different in the performance of TF3D or any of the tabs?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
at first i wanted a smallest cab possible that only put theme pics in it.

started to examine manila files to find out certain files must go with pics or it will not work.

now i amn just trying to find wehat the hell causes the people tab delay and then go back to theme

as far as pics i have made some and used some i had found to make the best htc stock theme possible
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
That sounds right to me, but I'm just starting to learn about modifying manila files and creating themes since I got my Fuze, so I'm sorry if my questions are silly :) What I'm wondering is if you could avoid any issues like with the people tab by starting with the stock AT&T theme/manila files and just use Manila Editor and Manila Customizer to replace all of the image resources until it looks like the stock Touch Pro theme (or any other) instead of taking an existing theme and trying make it work without issues with the Fuze. Maybe that's what you've already done, who knows about this stuff!?! Anyway you've done way better than I could so thanks again and good luck with figuring this out!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] PTzero:
Yes, my PTT button is remapped. The remap is cooked into NATF's ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
I am having the People tab issue and I did not remapp the PTT button.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] starstreak:
What happened to the red highlight? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
Possible fix for People tab

Hi. Anyone experiencing the people tab issue please try coping the manila file inside this zip file to the windows directory on your device. Also, you should make a backup copy of the existing file before you do so just in case. This is an original AT&T manila file which I modified to show the matching font color on the People tab for herg's theme. I was only seeing a 1 - 2 sec. delay before, but this file seems to have worked for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
thanks btprice.....i added that file to V5b so hopefully it will fix people tab issue, again thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
Where did you upload V5 to? I'm only seeing V.3 and V.4 on your Mediafire site.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
still uploading files give me time please
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
Ah okay, no worries, thanks again for the hard work on these!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
ok they are up now
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
I just downloaded and installed the V.5b White Clock w/Black Numbers/Letters, it looks really classy, and the call history and call tabs are awesome, thanks again!

Edit-Just to report, no delay on the people tab with this version :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
i am still working on the red highlights still

i can't help myself on trying to figure out this stupid people tab delay first....so far the file btprice put up on here, i added it to v5b and it did the trick so far.

so now i can work on the red highlight like you wanted.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] starstreak:
You knew I was gonna ask. :) I can wait. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] smhorne1:
Me neither. I have modified my fuze using Herg's theme and a couple others, and now all I need is the red highlight to complete. Can't wait!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] airbillion:
Can we just install it over the old version?

I am using version 4 of your theme and want to use the new one. Can I just install over the old version or do I need to hard reset?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
it is uninstallable from your settings
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
When I installed the new Version 5, it automatically uninstalled the old version 4 before installing the new one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] airbillion:
Thanks! Looks great so far! I think I found one issue though; on the weather tab, under last update it shows IDS_MINSAGO instead of how long ago it was updated, and under the current weather it shows IDS_STATE_0 under one of the cities. I have the modified weather database 1.1 installed, could that be the issue?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
possible.......i will look more into it when i get home from work
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emesbe:
Herg:

Works like a charm. People tab delay is gone. Again, great work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
How to switch between both clock colors?

To check out both of these files with the different clocks, is it necessary to install one and run it, then uninstall it to install and run the other? Or, can I have them both on my Fuze and switch between them?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
I did not see this issue at first, but now I have. It was fine after I first installed v5. Then after not looking at my Fuze for a while I switched back to the weather tab and it showed IDS_MINSAGO. After manually updating the weather it correctly displayed the time since last update correctly. IDS_MINSAGO seems to come back after being off the weather tab for a while or having the screen off. I do not have a modified weather database installed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
I installed v.5 and I am seeing this issue, and I do not have a modified weather database installed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
Can't get rid of Music tab

Another issue I am now having (which started intermittently after installing the Mobile Matt's Fuzeberry theme) is that I can't get rid of the Music tab, no matter how many times I uncheck it and restart in Diamond TF3D Config.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
Great. Thank you herg for all of your hard work! Hopefully this will solve the issues people have been having with the people tab.

The other thing I'd like to get working again that is lost from the stock AT&T theme is on the Program tab, when scrolling through the icons, the AT&T theme shows the highlighted program name as the Tab title; This theme just shows "Programs" fixed. It's a minor thing but still useful. If others would like to see that feature added back let me know, I'll maybe put more effort towards figuring that one out:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
Program Tab

I second that btprice, would love to see the Program tab name the programs as I scroll through.

Thanks for all the work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
hmmmmmmmm.........i will look into it tonight as well
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] pkshr:
Can you please post the screen shots for both (with white and black clock) v5 themes that i see in mediafire site?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
I just started seeing the IDS thing on mine today too, though no problems on the city labels.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
I second the thanks! I would like the program thing done too, that would be great if you could work it in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
if i have v4 (or any other version, in fact) installed, do i need to uninstall it or simply choose another theme when i go into the today editor?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
When I installed V.5, it came up and uninstalled V.4 first, then installed V.5.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
excellent. thanks!

anyone have a list of what exact changes were made from v4 to v5?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] techman28:
Why is V5 such a larger file than V4?

Has anyone tried it with NATF's v2.3 Rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
hm...v5 (white flip) seems kinda buggy. my favorite contacts (favorites tab) don't show up at all now. the added call history tab is nice, though.

i'm running the stock rom (i believe).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
I'm running the stock rom too, but my contacts are coming up fine in V.5b.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
ok on the white face flip clock i was able to create the ids minsago issue.

i thought i fixed that. in the black flip clock the issue is fixed. i guess it was late and forgot to fix that on the white flip. i will fix that issue and reload v5b white flip soon
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mchapman007:
Downloading Black now.... Keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
great job, herg! one tiny, tiny request for the black theme...is there any way you could make the "AM" and "PM" appear in white on the flip clock? Right now it's in black and very difficult to see since the flipcard is also black. If not, it's cool!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fatpeopleunite:
i was wondering if someone can tell me the difference between the black flip clock and white flip clock? better yet can someone post some screen shots? also, ive been waiting until all the bugs were fixed before downloading this and i was wondering what other tweaks are going to be changed. thanks for all the hard work herg
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
i've attached a pic of the Today screen with the black theme. hope that helps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
Ditto on that from me :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
weird thing is that the black theme worked perfectly for me. i'm not sure if the white theme downloaded funky and resulted in a funky install, so i may try redownloading it and trying again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fatpeopleunite:
Thank you. I'll wait til Herg uploads the updated version of white flip.

Herg said he made a mistake earlier and will fix the issue soon.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
will be uploading V5c....fix from V5b to V5c as follows

on black flip....white am/pm on clock, glass slider instead of black bar slider

on white flip......glass slider, fixed **** up on the glitch on weather tab

i am currently testing the cab files will release soon
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
Hi, herg. I don't know if you would want to wait or not to update your files before you upload them, but I've figured out how to fix the Programs tab. I rushed to get this done so that you could include it in the next files you upload if you want to :) I only did testing with v4 since that is what I had gone back to using, but the fix should work with v5b/c too. Please see the zip files attached. Again, I tested the v4 files, and the v5b files have the same fix applied. Cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
the main xml file still has calendar and call history right
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
thanks to btprice again.....in version 5d program tab now shows the title of the program highlighted like the main at&t tf3d did
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
Correctamundo for the v5b zip. I only added the reference to a luac script to 26948339_manila, and the other file should contain that script. I did the same for the files in the v4 zip but obviously those would not have calendar and call history.:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
dude if you keep this up i should turn this thread over to you...lol

thanks for the help btprice

i am now uploading version 5d which has the program tab fix made by btprice...thanks again for the help
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
Now, now. No, thank you. I have benefited from your hard work on manila 2D and porting video drivers with my prior device (TyTN II) and now with these themes for the Fuze. I have also benefited in more ways than I could ever list from xda-developers, so I'm glad I could contribute to our community here. Besides the only way you learn is by doing!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
what do you use to veiw luac and mode9 files with

i am using LuaEdit_3_0_3RC but it requires to use command prompt and i hate using comand prompt if posible
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
thanks for the kind words about my work with m2d, and yes i have to say 2yrs ago when i signed up all i knew was that i had a touch screen phone that ran windows mobile on it.

now i know how to dump roms, create cab files, mess with tf3d files, and so much more.

in short if xda was not around all i would know about win mob ppc is it is touch screen and that is it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
I just installed your V.5d black flip clock, it looks beautiful! Check this out, you really do an awesome job on this stuff, thanks again!

Edit-Thanks to btprice too!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fatpeopleunite:
i think i found another problem. i downloaded the black flip on accident but installed anyway to see how it would look. it looks great, however the music player does not work. this is with v5d. i was wondering how i could fix that or is it something you can fix in the next version? thanks again herg
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
the see through flip clock and the glass slider is not my work......i found them some where and i feel in love with them. it went perfect with the black flip clock so i used them.

i am not the artist of the glass clock nor the glass slider
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
I just installed 5d as well, but my music player is working fine, what exactly is happening?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
mine works, see pic

no pun intended on the name of the song being played...sorry it was the first one that popped up
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
Well, thanks to you and all other contributers, as Chico on "Chico and the Man" used to say "Loooooooooooking Gooood!" :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fatpeopleunite:
when i try to play a song, nothing plays. it loads and loads and when i try to switch the song an error pops up saying there is an error with the music player. when i uninstall this theme, it works perfectly and when i install it again it stops working. should i try re downloading the cab and see if it works? it seems as if it is only my device. thanks for all your help
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
It's working fine here too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
try that and see if that works
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
i am off to bed....it is 3:38 am and i have to be at work at 8:30am.

good night all
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
What, it's only 1:46 AM here in California ;) Have a good one, and thanks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
you had to rub it in.......lol

i am in alabama....we be like 2 hours ahead of your time
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] fatpeopleunite:
wow im also in california i cant believe you stayed up so late for this herg, thanks again for all the hard work. the music player now works, so thats no more of an issue, thanks both of you
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] californiarailroader:
Cool, glad you got it working okay! These things are so tempremental sometimes, I swear they can be possesed by demons LOL So where in CA are you? I'm in Redwood Valley, it's 8 miles north of Ukiah or 115 miles north of San Francisco up here in Mendocino County. I was born and raised in SoCal though, Covina High Class of 1990 Rah!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] F2a:
Thanks for your hard work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
Getting ready to download and install v. 5d. Question-somewhere along the line I installed Fabliv CallHistoryTab TF3D Black. Is that now embedded in v5d, and can or should I remove that?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] gmfeld:
Love your wallpaper. What is it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
man, you guys rock my socks off. "I LOVE THIS TOWN!!"

installing v5d right now. please oh please oh please don't spaz out, phone...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] techman28:
Has anyone tried v5d on NATF's v2.3 rom?

Edit: And if I wanted to how do I remove this theme? Can I just uninstall it? Or do I have to hard reset it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emesbe:
This is frustrating. Went from 5b (no people tab delay) to 5d. Programs tab is working, but people tab delay is back. Thinking of going back to 5b and leaving well enough alone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
are you sure. all i did was use v5b and added the program and weather fix. i left everything else the same.

people tab should be fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emesbe:
Wierd isn't it? Yes, I uninstalled 5b and installed 5d. I'm in the process of uninstalling and reinstalling 5d just to check. I'll let you know.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] solomonj:
Fantastic job, Herg! I'm very appreciative! Curious, have you considered trying to add the Stock Market tab that HTC released in the Touch HD? That would be fantastic!

P.S. I'll be making a donation after the Christmas holidays when my finances aren't so tight!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] hidden_dragon:
This looks fantastic! I love the transparent clock and slider! Under the weather tab, I get the IDS_MINSAGO instead of the actual time the weather just got updated. Is this normal? Otherwise, everything looks grand...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
hm, i just realized that the icons in the "Programs" tab no longer show up. not a huge deal since i don't really ever use this tab, but you may want to look into it (unless this is a problem with only my phone, and if so, i'd appreciate any input from you wonderful experts!).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] hidden_dragon:
Try reflashing again. I have had no problems with this in version 1, 4 or 5d.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emesbe:
Herg:

Tried uninstalling and reinstalling 5d. Same thing -- people tab delay. Then uninstalled 5d and reinstalled 5b. Back to normal -- no people tab delay. Go figure. Still a great product. I'd like to make a donation -- please advise where.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Nautme:
I just went from 4 to 5d and my People tab is still slow as well. I didn't try the 5b. I love the extra tabs though.

Edit: I just noticed on the clock screen, there's no longer the small clock. In version 4 and earlier, I could scroll down on the clock screen so I could see more appointments and the clock would get smaller. This new version no longer scrolls/shrinks the clock.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
uninstalled v5d, reinstalled v5d, and now i still have the same problem. no icons appear in the program tab.

oh well, it's no biggie since i already have it in my start menu.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
For the people tab, try manually copying the 6c422ab4_manila file I posted before to the windows directory. My people tab delay has always been almost imperceptible, but I'm on v5d white clock and I tried copying this file over and it seems to have helped.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3010977&postcount=230

I also see that the home tab does not scroll anymore with this version. I think that may be a result of adding the call history. I might be totally wrong on this but I'm pretty sure I read that in another call history tab thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emesbe:
Tried that before and it did not help. The only thing that fixed it was going back to 5b. I have no problem with home tab scrolling, or with program icons.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
Are you on the white or black clock version? I'm using the white. For the home tab, I can still scroll down/up and shrink/expand the clock but only by using the d-pad. It does not work with the touchscreen and finger/stylus swipes up or down. Weird.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] emesbe:
I'm using the white. Weird is right!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Nautme:
I manually updated that file and it went from 8-10 seconds to around 1 second. I thought that file was included in the 5d, that's why I didn't do it on my own. I'm using the WHITE 5d flip version in case the CAB needs to be updated.

Also, about the scrolling on the home tab, that's what I was referring to. It does appear to still work with the D-Pad up/down though. I guess it's just the finger scrolling that doesn't work for some reason.

Oh yeah... Thanks to herg62123 for the great theme and to btprice2001 for the People tab fix!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
the black theme is the one i am using

swipe with finger works on home tab

programs shows the files in that tab

let me install the white theme to see if i can recreate the errors being reported
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
thanks, herg! any idea why my program icons aren't showing up? i'm running stock rom, and i tried uninstalling and reinstalling v5d. i had a similar problem with the white version (v4, tho), but with that one, it was the icons in the favorites (contacts) tab that wouldn't show up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dumbo:
Every item works on mine. I use black, I did not loose my programtab, and home scroll works.

This is the process I use to install, see if it helps.

First uncheck the TF3d plugin Settings->Today->...

Then Uninstall the old Flip Clock.

Reset

Install the new Flip Clock V5d

Reset

Check the TF3D plugin to enable TF3D

Hope it helps.

Good job Herg.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
i can confirm in white theme the following:

1. on home screen finger swipe does't work

2. instead of fiixing weather with correct file i used the broken file in both black and white themes...my **** up sorry

3. not sure why programs not showing up on some devices and not all devices.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] btprice2001:
I made a comment that I would like to rescind.:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dabilee01:
did those exact steps (in fact, i do it each time i update), and unfortunately, no programs still. thanks, tho!