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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.3.18.DEV/

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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.3.25.DEV/

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Next update will be on 13 april.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi....eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.4.8.DEV/

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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] SpEaKeRb0xXx:
seems like messaging is not working for this version. tried clean installing this 3x and still not getting or allowing me to send sms.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
Hi, I'm on this update and I have no problem sending/receiving SMS, I did a clean install and I have a CN version phone.

Unfortunately I'm just announcing the updates but I'm in no way part of the Xiaomi.eu team, it's just that I'm helping to keep this thread alive. If I can give you any advice why don't you try to get some logs and go report your problem.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Long press on the messages icon, / information / check that all permissions are granted (none must have returned empty messages).

Also check the APNs.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] SpEaKeRb0xXx:
Thank you very much for the fast response! I tried everything to no avail so I re-downloaded the ROM and did a fresh install. Everything works now.

Thank you again!
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.4.15.DEV/

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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.4.22.DEV/

Next update will be released on 11 May.

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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi....eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.5.6.DEV/

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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Kydaix:
New update: https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...eu/HyperOS-WEEKLY-RELEASES/OS1.0.24.5.13.DEV/

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[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
I tried. There is no difference...
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hennessylieu:
Will you update once the Global release, I read the Xiaomi 12S Ultra gonna release in Europe next month, will there be Global ROM version in the future?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
Do not believe to everything on the internet..
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hennessylieu:
If that the case, I will install the EU ROM, hopefully I will get most of the original editing feature from original CN version, inlcude Beautify version, just in case I need some ID photo editing, and include most of the photography camera core feature remain the same.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
Could any one install the Gallery Editor apk on Xiaomi EU rom? Or we need to wait it included in the ROM officially?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
I installed it on mine. From the link in APK pure and the other extracted APK link. However I do have root currently, not sure if that had anything to do with me being allowed to install it? Not going to hurt.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
I tried to install thru adb also, and got this error, so I guess it requires root?

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_DUPLICATE_PERMISSION: Package com.miui.mediaeditor attempting to redeclare permission com.miui.mishare.PERMISSION.ALL already owned by com.miui.gallery]
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
Finally I figured it out, I think I updated Mi share thru getapps which caused conflict. I uninstalled the update then install the extracted APK (not the apk from Apkmirror, it missing Leica effects) and IT WORKS now.

Now I got the perfect EU ROM. Thanks everyone.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
Looks like it. All you can do it request it gets added to the EU ROM or get root and then remove it after, once it is installed.

Root does take long now you can access a copy of the boot image from the EU ROM download. You can install safety net fix and deny banking apps from seeing root, like I do.

If you want a link to how to root with safety net, I have loaded it up on my mega site https://mega.nz/file/zFh3WKYR#Hk2tLSY2chyp4oPKmVH83qQ65W7gOC_MIfNdQElSY2s
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
Thank you. But I could install the editor (thanks for the extracted APK). So don't need root anymore. The problem is I updated the Mishare thru getapps.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
Great news for you and everyone
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] avetny:
getapps updates sometimes may remove tweaked settings.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] BH1HHO:
1
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] avetny:
Updated to latest version Xiaomi.EU via air ! Everything is working! Love it
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] chistery:
deleted
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] xianchu:
problem install the update 13.0.9.

saying

load /system_root fail No such file or directory

load /system_ext fail No such file or directory

load /product fail No such file or directory
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] avetny:
Why i don't have any issues? (Your phone was root it ?)
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] chistery:
I had similar issues when I tried, but then rebooted into recovery, selected the file and it installed, no idea why it didn't work the first time.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] xianchu:
Did u root your device?

I didn't . I bet this is the problem.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
it is not.. it is random TWRP issue.. just reboot to TWRP again and select zip manually to install..
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] xianchu:
I didn't root my device.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] xianchu:
try set TWRP language to English and then

install it again. I just got updated
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] kuau:
I successfully installed the EU rom, Now the phone want to install the latest version V13.0.9.0 SLACNXM Stable am i going to have any issues after rebooting.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] kuau:
So after the download was complete I clicked on update, and the phone rebooted into TWRP Chinese version and then a script ran automatically. Since I cant rad Chinese I just rebooted the phone and it seem to have updated ok.. How can I change the language in TWRP to English
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
reboot to TWRP and change language in TWRP setings..
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] mahpoaht:
I updated the phone by install the file through TWRP. The phone still say update available.

BTW, what is the changelog for this release? Thanks.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] energykriger:
Try to clear cache in twrp.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hoangtu2410:
do you have AI portrait ? Can you provide the extracted APK ? Thanks
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
@hoangtu2410 you can check this
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hoangtu2410:
I have installed newest Gallery editor but dont have AI portrait option (art framing is available). Can you check it ? Thanks
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
Yes I also don't have. No idea where it is...
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hoangtu2410:
1 last thing to make eu rom perfect for me :(
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] zzthzz:
Hi Guys, I am a very new user of Xiaomi phone. I just would like to ask that this version of ROM is a recovery ROM right? So i can update the ROM via my phone by following the instruction a @ingbrzy's post. Many thanks
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Xxxelectron:
perhaps need to find another apk?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] GodKingKnight:
I can't download the image for the update. Says all download mirrors are offline.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hennessylieu:
There's no other APK I'm afraid, the one I extract from CN versions, even I install don't have Beautify nor Xiaomi EU Mod 200mb link too, it's look like the feature build in ROM, and it was removed, the beautify feature is essential for photography.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ike101692:
Has anyone tried pairing with a galaxy watch 5 to their 12s Ultra using the EU rom? Curious if that will work. This 7 day wait is really going to drag along
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hoangtu2410:
maybe we need to use original rom, try disable some bloatware then see if beautify lost. It will take times
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] mahpoaht:
I tried yout suggestion, still the same "bug".
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] energykriger:
Than I would try to download the file from xiaomi.eu and install it again with twrp.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Bert Trees:
After waiting 168 and then a further 1hr, phone unlocked and it's working great. Just one question, when in the google phone app and clicking on a persons contact, it asks, complete action using 'contacts' or 'contacts and dialler'. Anyone found a way of stopping the option, in defaults I have the google phone app selected but there is no default for contacts option. Thanks in advance . .
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
Hi guys, thanks for this ROM, awesome.

Update fails for me. Can I ask for advice.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] mahpoaht:
Just reboot to twrp and flash again.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
Same thing
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Use OTA.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
That's OTA update
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Which TWRP?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
OTA offers to reboot so it's the TWRP embedded in release. Shall I install another one?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
No TWRP integrated in the zip of the rom, the ota uses the one you have.

Last version https://xdaforums.com/t/shared-twrp-by-skkk.4489561/

Remove lock screen security.

If the phone is root unroot .
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
Worked once I removed lockscreen security. Thanks NOS!
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] t-bandziorek:
Hi guys, I did via ota. I would be redirected to twrp, then a scrypt went on there, the latest version is on it. How bo do I get root on my phone again? Can someone please give me a hint, love thanks🙏
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
In the same way as you did the first time.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] t-bandziorek:
Now it seems logical to me. Sometimes the simplest things are complicated. Thank you for the impetus!
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Bootloader is unlocked. Downloaded xiomi.eu_multi_THOR_V13.0.9.0.SLACNXM_v13-12.zip. Extracted contents. But don't see the fastboot first install files for windows? Any suggestions
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Use OTA(Must have TWRP installed).
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Isn't there a fastboot version. Like in opening post?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Nope,It was while waiting for a TWRP
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Wther:
Hi folks

I installed the rom about 2 weeks ago and now mui wants to update (4gb). I take it if I do that uodate I am back to having assistant broken and locked down system?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Nope,If you updated correctly.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Wther:
As in update via another rom with an update option, or as in having installed the rom correctly in the first place and doing a system update won't break it?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
If you have a Xiaomi Eu rom and you update it via OTA (Must have TWRP installed) nothing will be erased.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Ok. Installed TWRP. Then download the EU ROM on phone. Flashed it via TWRP. Phone boots back to TWPR on start up. Restored defaults. Bit still no luck. Any suggestions?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Do not flash directly with TWRP, use OTA
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
I did. Any way to reverse or fix? I can get into TWRP
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Check that you are using the latest TWRP, install it if necessary.

https://xdaforums.com/t/shared-twrp-by-skkk.4489561/

Remove lock screen security.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
I'm on 3.6.2_12 Xiomi12SUltra_v5.1_A12. And how do I remove lock screen security? Phone only boots to TWRP
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
You talk about TWRP install thishttps://dl.akr-developers.com/?dir=skkk/TWRP/A12/v6.2_A12

If that doesn't work:

Twrp/wipe/format data write yes/reboot TWRP/flash rom.

Your data will be erased.

You will need to put the zip back.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
first off thanks for the help. Newest version of TWRP installed. Went to reboot and said no OS installed. If I follow above instructions Format and reboot to TWRP. how can I flash ROM. It is no longer on the internal memory. Or i coulnt see it anymore.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Connect the phone to the pc and put the zip at the root
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
phone wont boot up. Just get the mi screen for a few seconds. Then black the mi screen again.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
I have the bootloader unlocked but no Root. Is root needed
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
On TWRP,If the phone is not detected, go to advanced sideload (do not check anything), leave for 15 seconds then exit sideload and you will be able to see the phone (see post above.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
If you're having trouble with TWRP:

download this zip, extract it, put your phone in Fasboot mode connect it to the pc, open the extracted zip folder and run the command first install.bat.

Once the rom is installed, flash the latest TWRP then update via OTA.

xiaomi.eu_multi_THOR_V13.0.8.0.SLACNXM_v13-12-fastboot.zip
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
says site cant be reached
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...files/xiaomi.eu/MIUI-STABLE-RELEASES/MIUIv13/

2022-08-18	5.2 GB
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Down loaded that. Does not have the first install .bat file. This started my troubles. lol
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Did you download the rom xiaomi.eu_multi_THOR_V13.0.8.0.SLACNXM_v13-12-fastboot.zip
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
just found it. Sorry
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Finally got it sorted. Installing the fastboot version worked. I cannot express my gratitude. Blessings. Now just gotta reinstall TWRP and learn how to do the OTA.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
you have TWRP already installed with fastboot ROM version..

so just let updater to make his job and confirm install new version button..

life is too short to make it complicated..
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hoangtu2410:
can you please check why your rom missed the Beautify feature ? Thank you so much
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
It is time to show a real face to the world.. we are tired of fake people all around..
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] avetny:
Lmaaao ! So true

People complaining about STUPID things.... I'm so sorry...but you guys have to come back to stock Chinese firmware.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Sweet. ROM is 🔥🔥🔥
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] hoangtu2410:
I always know stupid people think the other things they dont care are stupid. And the funny thing is they always think they are so smart. Good luck bro.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Updater isnt working for me. I see there is a update. But downloads so slow. only got to 64% after 1 day and froze there. Is there a way to download with the computer, put on internal memory and flash through TWRP. Also how do you open TWRP. Thought it was Power and volume down. But that juss gets me into fastboot.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
download zip manually

Xiaomi.eu Multilang MIUI ROMs - Browse /xiaomi.eu/MIUI-STABLE-RELEASES/MIUIv13 at SourceForge.net

OFFICIAL mirror of MIUI Multilang ROM by https://xiaomi.eu/

sourceforge.net

go to updater - menu - select installation zip - done
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Worked like a charm. This update makes the phone super smooth and fast. No issues. Blessings
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] mapleshadow:
Why can't I install google vr core?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] GodKingKnight:
Same issue, no fix.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
No Google dialer on these roms just Miui dialer with call recorder.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Cammybuu:
Hi, i just purchased the Xiaomi 12S Ultra and it will be delivered in CN version state. What differences will there be if I try to install this rom? Also can the device become useless f I mess it up? Is there any real benefits to changing to the .eu ROM?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
The EU ROM removes Chinese apps, has loads of added apps and is much better than the stock Chinese. Rather than explain here pop over to their forum and read how to and what it includes. https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-13-stable-release.64441/

You will need to get a Xiaomi account and bond the phone to your account, then you have to unlock the bootloader, this process completes after 168 hours when you finish it, it will format the phone, so that's the ideal time to install the EU ROM as you must format the phone with the new ROM branch anyway.

Installing the ROM is easy, all the files are in the download package and instructions on the Xiaomi forum where my link sends you. The I initial install is by fastboot, updates after that install using recovery ( twrp) that gets installed when you install the EU ROM.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Cammybuu:
Is there a possibility to bypass the 168hours waiting time?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
No. I'm afraid it's server side. They are just trying to put you off doing it. At least they do, some phone makers keep them locked.

Just use the time to prepare.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] tensux:
i keep getting a popup that mi message is trying to activate but cannot. Not sure what mi message is, if its the messaging app i don't use it, i use google messages. Is there a way to stop it from trying to activate, or actually activate it?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
Try the mi message app and turn off the top mi message switch
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] avetny:
Received new update by air. Installation was smooth. Just make sure charging cable is not plugged in. (Couldn't let me do it)

🙌🔥
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] kuau:
I also received my update and it went perfectly.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
Updater keeps force closing for me. I'll manually download it and install.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] def-g:
I see the new update but Updater force closes. I'll do it manually via the site.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] mahpoaht:
Some one with knowlwdge please tell me which packages are required for the updater app to work properly? I disabled some packages using adb broke it.

Much appreciated.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ingbrzy:
just do not mess with system apps if you do not know what you are doing..
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] tygercat:
Hello, can you please tell me if Android Auto wireless connection is fixed in this EU version? That would make me try this ROM, although those 168h that I've seen without using the phone at all are tough serious business...

Pd: I read someone complaining about Revolut app, I had the same issue and after contacting support, some days ago they fixed it and everything now works.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
This thread is not about the stock Rom EEA version (for Europe).
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
And you CAN use your phone as normal during the 168 hours, just don't log out of your Xiaomi account. Why would you anyway! It's no hardship other than the format at the 168th hour when you actually unlock the bootloader.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
Hi all, I installed latest rom and again I have a huge sluggishness past the first few minutes when everything was fine. I'm using Orange for provider. Does it have to do with EEA features?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Sathelp:
The phone continues to finish the update once the phone reboots and there is a small notification about this. This probably why it is sluggish on first boot. I take it that you wipe dalvik after the twrp installation? Not doing so could also cause some app issues.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ike101692:
I'm noticing the same, it's kinda just random on this end. Im on T-Mobile in the states. I just got a notification for an update so I'm going to update and report back
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] ike101692:
Just updating this after playing with my phone for the last like 45 minutes. It's definitely smoother, those little micro stutters and jerks seem to be gone. Loving the rom also, took this phone from a cool just to play around with here and there, to my daily driver, thanks for all the hard work
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Jambon95:
Am I the only one whose phone looks stuck in 3G?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] phzi:
Not having any problem like that here. LTE and 5G working fine.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] SAMPPLE:
Hello, sorry to post here but I'm super desperate... Bat file opens and exits instantly and I can't do anything... anyone with an idea? Thank you!
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Try Install platform-tools and put the rom folder inside.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] SAMPPLE:
Thank you for reply, but I have them. Adb and fastboot is working.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
You have Platform tools and the rom folder is inside the platform tools folder?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Darkness4life:
Hi , please can you help with quick question. There are two links for rom download , one with miui zip latest and the fastboot one mention further down this thread , am I downloading the fastboot older rom mentioned in thread below?
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] NOSS8:
Rom.zip with TWRP

Rom fastboot.zip with PC.
[Xiaomi 12S Ultra] Darkness4life:
Wow quick response, so it's this one attached on pic
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] JohnQ:
cm8wrv

2xgrqk

only two :D be happy!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] 93Akkord:
what website is this for?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] thacounty:
These are for zagg.com he is talking about the invisible shield they make for the touch pro. Over at ppcgeeks.com a guy said techound1 works. I think the ones listed here are one time use only. The one from ppcgeeks has worked for a lot of people.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] hvbelton:
Now you show up with these...I ordered mine Saturday :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] HellRaver:
Poor guy :(

InvisibleSHIELD really suck!

www.bodyguardz.com are better... and you get 2 sets!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] AllTheWay:
I agree with the above poster

I will never again order a invisbleshield and in fact I am going to cancell my order with them.

I purchased a so called invisibleshield on Saturday. A full day later another user purchased his and received his order yesterday. I then e-mailed the company to ask about the status of my order. Received no response.

I then called the company and the incompetent individual they had answering the phones could only tell me that the order is processing. I then asked when it might ship. He had no idea.

If this company is a reflection of it's customer service I would steer clear of this product an in this company as a whole.

I would just purchase one of these and be done with it. http://www.bodyguardz.com/Articles.asp?ID=132

If you purchased one from them return it.

Sorry for the rant!

Oh yeah I got 2 of those as well. Guess what. Tried to give those to somebody else to order a device and they didn't work. Yet again another shinning example of the excellent quality support this company has!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nbviper:
I ordered an invisibleshield last week and received a shipping confirmation email within 24 hours. Of course, now it's been 7 days and haven't received it yet. We'll see what the actual shipment date is marked on the package. I had a bodyguardz on my Tilt and it worked very well. Not sure why I switched, guess I'll see which brand I prefer.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] AllTheWay:
Please let me know which one you think is better.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] edskii:
But bodyguardz.com don't have HTC Fuze yet, only Touch Pro
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] ExTREmE99:
ordered my invisible shield on last friday. got mine today (thursday) fits great..kinda. evidently zagg got lazy and reused the front shield from the htc diamond. its obvious as the corners arent rounded like the touch pro, instead squarish exactly lik ethe diamond
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] bpm2000:
yea those guys at Zagg are aholes. I had it on my previous two phones and i had to re-order each time because they didnt cut it right to fit the phone initlaly and they wanted me to pay for it again. Had to argue my way out of that one for some reason. I am hoping bodyguardz come out with the fuze shield soon
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] AllTheWay:
What is really the diff between the two? There shaped the same right? Or am I totally off?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herg62123:
fuze and the touch pro is the same device just different names for it
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] xboxhaxorz:
the touch has a camera up front the fuze does not. i had a invisibleshield on my herald and it worked great, the full coverage i bought. the screen protector actually gave my phone a better feel when i touched it compared to my friends with a stock protector.

i praised them alot during my time with the herald, i bought it for the fuze and it was extremely hard to get on and now that its on it looks terrible. im guessing it was easier on the herald because of the material they used. the tilt and fuze and other phones use the more common material.

ill try the guard and let yall know how it goes
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] JohnQ:
well, i got 1 set touch pro, 1 set for iphone 3g lol