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[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] idaneli2:
I was wondering if it is possible to flash G781U firmware on G781B since they have the same specs.

would love to hear what you think (or know).

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] 3mel:
I'd keep the B model as it is as it can have it's bootloader unlocked. if you're taking that phone to the states someone would gladly buy it off you as is.

if you wanted updates after moving they could easily be manually downloaded and flashed. if you concerned about frequency bands then maybe there are ways to tackle that.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] idaneli2:
Thanks for the reply, I know its better to keep it that way but if I wanted to change it anyway, will it be possible or would I just brick the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] 3mel:
not sure to be honest, I suspect that the existing bootloader would generate a fail error before or just after you started but I can't say for sure.

if it did fail after starting to flash you'd need B firmware on hand to make it useable again.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] igordashaar:
Trying the same but switching from 781W to 781B. Had no success so far. Odin is failing to flash. At least so far I did not brick the device. Any advice is welcome
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] idaneli2:
Hey, glad to see im not alone.

did you try to unlock the bootloader first?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] igordashaar:
tried, but so far without success. I'm missing the "OEM unlocking" option that is stated in the manual. Trying now to update to latest firmware. Maybe this will enable the unlocking option.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] igordashaar:
hm... I just learned that there may be no OEM unlocking option on my snapdragon device. There really is a lot to consider... Somehow OEM unlocking does not work on snapdragon devices from north america. In latin america although this might work. I don't really get what the point of all this is. [some sauce]

edit: maybe it is possible to unlock it through fastboot, but so far i only get a command not found error when using ´´´fastboot oem unlock´´´
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] idaneli2:
Yeah, from what I understand devices with U at the end of their model number are missing the OEM unlocking option. I think its stupid to only block the option to some of the world, I mean either block it completely or dont block it at all.

Maybe it is possible to change your model to W and then unlock it, I im not wrong you are supposed to be able to flash W firmware on your U device without unlocking the bootloader.

Just make sure you download firmware with the same binary number in the baseband (the fifth number from the right)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] 3mel:
if it was that easy everyone would be doing it... (if they couldn't unlock).
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] igordashaar:
Unlike the original poster I am trying to go from SM-G781W to SM-G781B (or anything else that has german language).

To my understanding Samsung does this as the carriers in North America are requiring it, but not sure why.
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] jkmaxfli:
Hi.

Today I needed to pay something through my banking application, but the application did not allow me access because it detected malicious software on my phone and it is Whatsapp PLUS, which I have to uninstall in order to enter the banking application.

What should I do now if I use Whatsapp PLUS all the time, but at the same time I need access to my banking application?

How does a banking application detect that I am using an illegal Whatsapp Plus application?

Is there a way around it?

Thanks a lot.

And for info root I have over Magisk.
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] TechieTwinToes:
This might seem trivial, but have you tried revoking the "Get info about installed apps" permission?

Most apps use this to index all your apps and check for so-called "malicious" package names.
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] jkmaxfli:
What should I do?
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] jkmaxfli:
Even if I freeze WhatsApp via titanium backup, the bank's application still notifies me that there is malicious software on my device - WhatsApp.

That I should just uninstall it.
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] TechieTwinToes:
go to your banking app's "App Info" page, under permissions, look for "Get info about installed apps" and if it is "Allowed", change it to "Deny"

this is assuming you are on MIUI. I'm sure other ROMs also have a similar permission.
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] TechieTwinToes:
What is the package name of your whatsappPlus app? You should find it in the "App Info" page for the app. Should be something like "com.whatsapp"
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] jkmaxfli:
There is no such setting about allowing the installation of applications under permissions - allowed / deny
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] Rstment ^m^:
In that case you either modify the app itself - use apk editor to decompile app , edit manifest.xml and remove permissions like "query all packages" from it . Compile the app and run it again. This might work but if app is protected in some way that it detects modification you might get banned from it or worse :/

Other way is to isolate WhatsApp Plus by using tools like virtual xposed - basically a virtual container. You can install WhatsApp in there and it shouldn't cause any issues but I'm not sure you'll be able to receive notifications... ( You can try installing bank app in there instead but I'm not sure how that'll work... Either it will detect root/xposed or the container itself will allow querry all packages to seep through into main os - this depends on whether virtualxposed has declared permission for querying packages or not )

Third option is probably the best one - Uninstall and use web browser to access banking.
[Xiaomi Poco F3 / Xiaomi Mi 11X / Redmi K40] 3zozHashim:
maybe whatsapp plus is indeed malicious

use malwarebytes for android to check whether whatsapp plus is malicious or not
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
New Fuze user and new user to WM in general. I like the device, but it's been a bit overwhelming trying to get things together and tweaking it.

My biggest gripe right now is the sensitivity of the 4 way directional pad. Up and down work pretty well, but left and right are tricky to hit and I usually wind up going home, canceling, or going back. It's quite frustrating and I'd much rather use the directional pad than peck on the touchscreen in many situations.

I'm a bit befuddled: is navigation via the directional pad touch sensitive or is it a physical button? Is there anyway to adjust the sensitivities or sensor zones/regions so as not to accidentally hit one of other hardware buttons?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thedogger:
Got the same issue. The up / down navigation works fine, but left and right is just horrible. It would almost be better if you could use the touch sensitive part, rather than having to press the buttons fully down.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
yup its a problem on all i think
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
Wow, how did this get pass R&D and QA? The lack of responsive and accurate left/right keys is abysmal (makes me unable to use Calendar). I sure hope there will be some remedy ....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nektoinphx:
Yeah, I agree, the d-pad is sorely lacking. It seems to be getting a little easier as I get accustomed to it, but the d-pad from my 8525 was much better.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bradvoy:
I agree 100%. And like vexingv said, this is particularly annoying in the calendar application. The D pad on my 8525 was far easier to use.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jojorios:
And all this time i thought i just kept messing up. I have the same problem also.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
calendar is where the problem really does shine
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NuShrike:
This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.

I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.

Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:

Home goes back to Home

Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways

Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!

So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.

Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.

Genius by HTC.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
Well, the scroll wheel does work, but its ability is to zoom/decrease the text size, which for most intents and purposes is a waste.

For clarification, is the directional rocker currently touch-sensitive or is there a physical button that is being depressed (albeit poorly).

If this keeps up, how about mapping some of the other 4 hardware buttons to provide some L/R functionality?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Okay guys. Here is the weird crazy part. I had the same problem, I just flashed the original stock att rom back (Well, tried to freeze in the middle to return :P) but I had the att rom on it, I tried to re-install via the microSD card, and after it went through all the customization, I was so suprised that the left and right were working, it blew me away. I was like, "wdf? Is this the same phone." I have no idea what happened, but they seem more responsive. No tricks. At first I thought it was just me, but I started to use it more and more and it was working much better than before. No idea what fixed it, but I'm a happy camper :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NuShrike:
Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1

Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fuchikoma:
Stock rom here... Moving 'left' seems to work okay but 'right' either hits Call End or Back. And here I thought I was doing something wrong.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Seriously! Whose idea was it to make all those buttons into 1 face plate! :mad: stupid idiot designer. At least they could've separated the d-pad somehow, maybe a very precise circle.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
Yeah with the new excitement with touch interfaces, HTC seemed to have left their minds/brains elsewhere. But judging from the pictures in the linked thread above, it seems like none of the 4 directions have physical buttons.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TweakMyDevice:
Count me in on this problem...

For the Calendar I just open the keyboard and use that D-pad on the bottom right.

SOLUTIONS...

I propose someone should create software to do 1 of 2 things:

1) Use the G-sensor to control scrolling. This function would be activated by touching, not pressing/clicking, the center of D-pad. Similar to how you focus the camera. This action would activate the software thus allowing scrolling in all 4 directions by tilting the device.

2) Change the input so we only have to Touch the D-pad (like how we zoom in on pictures/Opera) to move in the desired direction.

So who's up to the challenge of developing some software to make this happen? I will gladly donate $$$ as the D-pad is the ONLY thing I dislike about the Fuze/Touch Pro.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mxl180:
it took me 10 days to realize how to left and right buttons work (sprint).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
Hmm...maybe the designers/engineers meant for BOTH hardware buttons on either side to be depressed nearly simultaneously in order to register navigation to either the left or right?

Eg.: Placing the tip of my right thumb parallel with the end the bottom of the phone between the two hardware buttons (farther away from the D-pad than one normally would) such that both buttons depressed, I was able to get much better accuracy navigating to the right. Can get the same response on the left side, but it's not as feasible due to the awkward positioning of the hands/fingers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
I got tired of this problem before so I used G-controller. It works.

[Link]
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baub:
The buttons are both touch-sensitive and physical buttons. The problem is if your thumb is touching any of the big buttons, it will prefer that over the directional click. Add to that the fact that the area the phone considers to be part of the non-directional buttons is much bigger than what it considers to be the directional buttons and it is a problem.

I wish people would stop following Steve Jobs's design ideas. Fewer buttons does not a better product make.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NuShrike:
The only real solution is to slide out the keyboard and use the arrow keys there. Thank you HTC again for your broke genius!

Let's just establish the Touch Pro/FUZE come with a broken and unusable D-PAD (or only 2-WAY navigation), and all the reviewers lied and hid about this, again.

So, is it Xperia or iMate/E-Ten for a VGA+ WinMob touch-screen + qwerty + 3D phone, or nothing, at this point?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TweakMyDevice:
OMG this guy figured it out!!!!!

I just spent several minutes trying your approach after reading your post, and it works great! I think this is how they intended the D-pad to be used.

All along I've been trying to press too close to the circle, but you have to try to spread out your thumb (if that makes sense) and press farther out away from the circle. I'd estimate this new approach yeilds 90% accuracy compared to 10%.

Great tip!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
That's exactly what happened with me! I just figured that out! The dude got it right on! Don't hit closer to the circle, place your thumb a little out. I was doing this unintentionally and kept on doing it when it showed better results.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] laakness:
LOL, hot damn. Nice find!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nektoinphx:
Holy F-ing smit!! It's so simple, severe d'oh!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TweakMyDevice:
vexingv should immediately be advanced to moderator status
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
Haha. Yes, praise me.

This tip was actually picked up by WMPoweruser.com (I think they referred to me/the poster as "one sharp xda-developer." Haha.) and Fuzemobility.com. Neither of which correctly references or links this thread nor my posting. Eh, there goes my 15 clicks of internet fame. lol...

I have to say those pictures really did help me in coming about to this finding as I wasn't entirely convinced about the touch sensitive nature of the D-pad. I'm just surprised that no one had discovered this earlier as the device has been available in one form or another for several months. In the 2 days days of time I had this device, the previously poor D-pad navigator was killing me; I can't imagine how anyone could put up with such poor navigation for any extended period of time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Thanks, No more problems with my Fuze now! The only thing I hated was the Dpad. And its way(x3) much more better now. Haven't missed a key since. :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] moe87:
well, i don’t know if anyone yet got this .. but follow me ..

so you are at you home screen now.. if you try to navigate right, it will work fine to move to the next tab to the right, yet if you open the calendar there is where the problem comes or with any other application !!

so, anyone got this ...

tested on Fuze but not ATT ROM... ?? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] burr:
Wow, I think I might actually use the left/right now! Works pretty well!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vexingv:
huh? I'm not sure I follow you...

The finding that the best spot to press is not actually the D-pad, but rather away from the D-pad and somewhere between the two other hardware buttons such that both hardware keys depress more or less simultaneously refers to general navigation and does not apply to any particular application.

In their posting, Fuzemobility and WMpowerusers have included a youtube video demonstrating this finding and where best to press.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ken830:
I think you're on the right track, but a little off... After I spent a day with my Sprint Diamond, this is my theory:

There are only five buttons in the entire key-pad area:

1) Button in the center of d-pad (select/ok button)

2) Button above the d-pad circle

3) Button below the d-pad circle

4) Button near the left edge of the device (left of the d-pad circle)

5) Button near the right edge of the device (right of the d-pad circle)

There are three separate sensors capacitive-sensor surfaces:

1) surrounding the d-pad circle (mostly left/right of it)

2) The open area to the left of the d-pad circle

3) The open area to the right of the d-pad circle

Okay... When you press up/down, it presses physical keys, and works really well...

When you press the button to the left of the d-pad, the phone determines which key you pressed by using the capacitive sensor. If your finger was higher, it's the home key. If lower, it's the send key. If in the middle, it's the left key.

Same goes for the other side... When you press the button to the right, if your finger was higher, it's the back key. If lower, it's the end key. If in the middle somewhere, it's the right key.

You can test this out yourself using the following techniques I've thought of:

1) There is only one key on the right:

- Press the very upper-right corner of the back key until you feel the button click.

- Now try to press the end key... Nothing, right? You can try the reverse too.

2) There is only one key on the left:

- Press the very upper-left corner of the home key until you feel the button click.

- Now try to press the send key... Nothing, right? You can try the reverse too.

3) The capacitive sensors on the left/right determine which key is pressed:

- lightly-touch the lower portion of the send key with your bare finger.

- use your stylus to physically press home key until it clicks. If done right, you will get the phone screen to come up even though you've physically pressed the home key.

4) You can check all of this out using the HTC test tools found in one of the threads somewhere on the forums...

So, at the end of the day, to get consistent left/right action, press well into the left and right areas of the phone, and make sure your finger is touching the middle, not too high, not too low.... Same conclusion, different explanation...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thedogger:
Seems like there might be a way in software to change the sensor areas, maybe tune them a little differently so more area is left for the side-to-side button, less for the home, back, call/hang up buttons. Perhaps some of our geniuses here at the forum can figure it out...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DarkDvr:
This has got to be stickied, I cant believe that after having so many PDAs I didn't guess that it's same button hahaha.

So simple once you know.

*feels dumb*
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Robrecht:
I'd just figured this out myself and came here to post it. It makes absolute sense to me.

So the way to get the keypress you want, is not to try and make the physical button "click" in exactly the right spot, but to make sure your thumb (to which the capacitive surface responds) covers the right area (and nothing else) when you click it. The difference is slight, but important. I'm starting to get the hang of it, actually.

And even better, this means (as thedogger pointed out) that the d-pad function can theoretically be fine-tuned by software.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ken830:
Yup... The NavDbgTool definitely shows that it can be done...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nektoinphx:
Yeah, after days of trying to train myself how to use the device, it still screws up. I think I'm switching to the Tilt. I'm going to miss the screen though!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mikeeey:
you shouldnt switch the the tilt, especially when this issue is only software related, it can be fixed!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Tripmon:
if you tilt the phone back and forth in good light you can see the little arrows around the zoom circle (not the physical gap around the circle, but the non-illuminated ornamental/instructional circle surrounding the physical gap)... if you try and press outside of the ORNAMENTAL circle on the same plane as the arrows you may get the same results as I do which is around 100%

thought this thread was kinda funny as I just un-boxed and was also trying to drive with the center circle button for a couple of minutes before holding it up in the light and seeing the arrows.

;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] guitarlp:
While this thread is helpful and improved the accuracy, it still doesn't solve the d-pad problem. Even though I can hit it correctly 90% of the time, there's still 10% of the time I exit out of applications without wanting to do so.

Going through my calendar means at least 1 time being sent back to the previous screen or home screen. No matter how hard I try to hit the button correctly it doesn't always work.

Needless to say, for my personal use, this is nearly a deal breaker for me. I use the d-pad all the time.

Some of you mentioned that software controls the sensitivity. Is there anything in the works for fixing this? Is someone here on XDA cooking something up to solve the problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcclurejones:
Requesting software fix for d-pad

Dito to the previous request. Will someone please create a software fix for the sensitivity zones for the d-pad?! Or, at a minimum, find a way for the "back" button/zone to be the same as hitting "right" and for the "home" button/zone to be the same as hitting "left". Sure, we'd lose the functionality of these buttons, but the error rate on going left and right would become near zero.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mcclurejones:
HTC Corp's Response

I wrote HTC asking about the d-pad problem. Here is their response.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Touch Pro's keypad.

We understand that it is important you receive all the information to best utilize your device. There are currently no patch or hot fix that addresses the keypad. However, to my knowledge there has been some confusion as where exactly to press the left and right directions on the Touch Pro. The are that is best to hit is between the soft keys and the call and end call buttons.

McClure, I hope we have answered your question in detail. Feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions.

Obviously, their answer doesn't solve the problem for those of us who are not 100% accurate in their thumb placement.

But I have found a mechanical solution. I have placed a small (4mm diameter) raised plastic sticker over the sweet spot. As long as I just push on the sticker, I'm almost 100% accurate.:o
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
I was under the impression that the capacitive touch area is a ring around the center button. You can see this if you hold your device up to the light. The area is just inside the icons for up, down, left and right arrows and is easily seen. I've found that as long as my thumb is touching a part of this ring when I want d-pad functionality then the direction pad works 100%. This means that you need to press the d-pad close to the center button to get directional responses.

From what I've read in this thread, this appears to be counter-intuitive to the described solution. However, it is backed up by the documentation in my fuze quick start guide.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Thresher:
I have no problems.

Works perfect.

Sincerely,

HTC President of Q&A
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] norkoastal:
Not to sound like the chior, but Gscroll should help you out.. Sliding over the buttons is much more fluid than clicking the flat buttons.. This program works for up/down/left/right...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
just to let u guys know, my first fuze had a horrible left and right directional pad. i exchanged it out and the new one is much better. theres a "sweet spot". play around with ur fuze and find the sweet spot