yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] slenet9:
Yes i knew that the Touch HD was not listed as compatible, but after testing it for 30 days, i thought it's safe enough to spend money on it.

Activating directly from the device does not ask a manufacturer name or device type, registering from the PC on the navigon site asks theses questions, and there is no option to choose the Touch HD. I tried with HTC Touch Pro, but the web site stuck on this step.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Marcdu81:
Hello,nothing for the moment but i hope that it'll be soon !

Test version does'nt work on my HD .

Edit : Sygic Mc Guider is compatible :
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Pandemoniumone:
I was able to get the test version to work by following this thread. I love the software but am a little cautious to buy until I see the Touch HD supported...to much money to risk wasting for me.

Hopefully this will happen soon for us as I could really use a nice navigation program. :cool:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] marso13964:
i want to known how to install the file??/

i don't know where the file need to put in....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] slenet9:
How to copy the xml files

As this basic question was asked several times i just made a document wich describes that (to use at your own risk).

Brief version:

Use ActiveSync, and explore your device usind the windows file explorer. Navigon installs to the storage card, so navigate to the storage card, open the folder Navigon. Place the two files BinaryConfig.xml and CacheConfig.xml to this folder (overwrite existing ones). Then open the folder Settings and place there the file ApplicationSettings.xml

After that, disconnect the device and start Navigator 7.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] andolfree:
which is the best way for set Gps.. and make it faster when i start navigon??

""

\\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice\PollInterval

Set the value to 3000 and GPS starts everytime you load Navigon""

this is the best?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] andolfree:
there is a way to start Navigon only in landscape.??

whitout Mn7ls.exe (landscape) and mobilenavigator.exe (portrait)

i need it to set with changescreen (like gyrator) because don't accept my exception.. when i set mobilenavigator in landscape mode only
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] nonolk1:
Navigon 6.5

Hello,

I just want to know if someone manage to make this version (MN6.5) working correctly on HTC touch HD.

In deed I managed to make it starting, with gps and tmc pro working, but I have serious lags during navigation.

I really need to use this version instead of the 7 as this one has TMCpro for France and the MN7 does not have this feature.

Thank's in advance.

--

Nonolk
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Matthes42:
Yes, you can set your display orientation and afterwards start mobilenavigator.exe. That´s it. But you mustn´t chnage the orientation after starting mn7, because it isn´t made for changing while running
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Nightcookie:
That'd be too good to be true - how do you know?

PS: "Les gorges du Tarn" - one of the first episodes in my old French textbook! :)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gecco_nbg:
MN7 crashes when calculating routes into different countries

I have regular crashes when I try to route from Germany into e.g. Austria or France. Does anybody experience the same?

My config:

Standard HTC ROM 1.14.407.3 (German Version) - 8GB

MN7.3.1 in Test Mode.

Installed the XML files from Post #148 (thanks for that!)

NM7 runs fine when I use destinations inside Germany, but when I try to route into France, it crashes completely.

Another interesting thing happened when I went into Austria:

It would not route when I used the 'Most scenic' setting but did generate an error Message:

Could not calculate the route(472)

Die Route konnte nicht berechnet werden(472)

It worked with optimal routing and Highways disabled, but then it crashed when I was on the way. :(

Speed limit display stopped working after some reroutings, ...

All of these are reproduceable.

Is there something else that I need to modify to get it to work?

If it stays like this there is no way that I buy it. Hope HD will be supported soon.

Thanks for any hints

Uwe
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dutchnomad:
Installeren MobileNavigator 7

Hi yesterday I got MN7 and wanted to install it on my HD. After starting the installer I get a message to insert an empty card in a card reader (and I don't have one available). the other suggestion is to connect the PDA tdirectly do my computer. This is what I do with the USB cable and the HD is connected via Active Sync. However this means that the HD is not seen as an external drive and I can not proceed with the installation.

Any suggestions?

Regards,

Dutchnomad
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] gghh:
You need to connect the device in HDD mode, not in Active Sync Mode.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dutchnomad:
MobileNavigator hangs HD

Ok, thanks to the tip I have installed the software, however when I try to run the software it 'hangs' the HD. I read something about copying some files etc...

Which files and to what location? And does it solve my problem?

dutchnomad
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] psampa:
I got it working on my xperia at least in portrait mode without any problems. My current issue is that the taskbar disappears after I close navigon. Any thoughts on this?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] dutchnomad:
Well after all it all seems to work and i didn't notice any strange behaviour yet :).

I have one question (the manual was not conclusive on it): I want to load 2 maps (Benelux and DE-CH-A) on the HD using the installer. I can only select one at a time and install it. When i install the other one the first is not available anymore.

One solution is loading all of Europe, but I don't need that and I wonder if that map is the same as all other maps added together.

How can i install more than one map on the HD?

Thnx
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Erroneus:
Just a small note:

Navigon showed Touch HD running Mobile Navigator 7 at their booth on Cebit.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Erroneus:
A small note:

Navigon had Touch HD running Mobile Navigator 7 in their booth on Cebit.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] portan:
Work this also for the HTC_HD??
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] portan:
i have done it describe like here, only when i start up mn7 then freeze the screen on the HD
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
dear people of xda.

i am a user of navigon version 7.3.1 on my htc HD device with the dutty version 1.9 rom

i know bought an bluetooth TMC reciever : navilock NL-322BTR.

i can sync the tmc revier to the pda, but i cannot get it to work with navigon, i set the settings to gps reciever with external tmc, and tmc is set to bluetooth, but navigon hangs on searching bluetooth devices

i see in navigon port 8 is also for bluetooth, but i cannot select that one....

please help.

Kind regards
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] SuperMyron:
Same problem here with my Touch Cruise. Any news?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] knobbyhtccruise:
Tried the 270 mn7 on a htc diamond ... works fine if started from a non touch flo 3d screen ... thanks !

backlight doesnt turn off now ... ever

any ideas
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] nonolk1:
Hello all,

I will explain you the way to get the free tmc working.

It's really simple, but really follow those steps :

- Be sure to have activated serial com port in the bluetooth devices section. And assign a com port to the tmc device, for the example I use com port 5.

- Then copy the usersettings.xml which is located inside your \navigon\settings folder.

- Edit this file and locate the section related to the tmc :

<TMC>
<RadioStationScan>0</RadioStationScan>
<AutoRecalculation>1</AutoRecalculation>
<PreferPay>0</PreferPay>
<TMCPort>5</TMCPort>
<TMCBaudrate>38400</TMCBaudrate>
<DRVPrefix>COM</DRVPrefix>
<Freq>1077</Freq>
</TMC>

- Then copy back the modified file in the original folder : \Navigon\settings

- Then start your TMC device and then start navigon this should work, at least it work for me.

--

Nonolk.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Steili:
Which TMC device do you use?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] nonolk1:
Hello Steili,

I use a GNS FM9 bluetooth device, at the begining it was not reconized by Navigon, and when I try to make it auto detected I freeze Navigon.

Then I founded on some other forums this solution which worked for me.

Best regards,

--

Nonolk
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Steili:
Hi Nonolk, thank you for your information!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
hi i think we have the same device mine says fm9 BT.

i see 3 different usersetting files, wich one should i use, and wich rom do you use and wich version of navigon??
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
ok, i did what you asked, but still no tmc....could you please post step for step including the bluetooth com part??

i really wanna make this work please.....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
and could you please post some screenshots of the bluetooth settings in your pda and in navigon?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] nonolk1:
Hello mickeymouse,

You have to setup the com port of your tmc device in :

-> Configuration -> Communication - > Bluetooth.

Then select the TMC device here fm9bt in the porperties of this one you should select "serial port".

Then go in the serial tab of the bluetooth section, and select create a new com port, assign it a port number.

Then simply change port number to your port number in the tmc section of the usersettings I posted.

Then just verify the phone and the tmc device are paired, and then start navigon. I insist on the fact you must not sart the tmc configuration inside navigon, this will freeze your device.

Then wait a minute and you will see the tmc menu as accecible inside navigon.

That's all.

I can't post screenshot from my work. If I have time I will do it this evening.

Best regards,

--

Nonolk.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
hi nonolk,

some screens will be appricated, thank you for your work!!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
could you please post navigon version and rom version please?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] knobbyhtccruise:
No Ideas why my backlight wont go off then ?

rom 2.03

navigon 7.3
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Nightcookie:
knobbyhtccruise,

I suppose that's default MN7 behaviour. I talked to Navigon about that, and they basically said backlight had to be always-on on a PPC.

So I asked why MN7 for Symbian allowed backlight to dim until the next announcement (which I find quite sensible), and they said that's because smartphones have smaller batteries. :confused:

That's what Navigon support says, even if it's rubbish.

N.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] knobbyhtccruise:
Thanks for the reply ... but it never goes off on the tf3d home screen, not navigon . The home screen never goes off

cheers anyway

Gaz
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mickeymouse:
hi nonolk,

nevermind, i got it to work!!, thank you verry much!!.

now only the landscape issue and dropping gps issue.....
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] qsdesigns:
I am using Navigon 7.3.x on the Touch HD, and everything works fine with Q1 2009 maps and POI's. But the camera in 3d mode is a little far away.Half of the screen is taken by the sky and the arrow is in the middle, so the roads ahead can't be easily seen.

Here a screenshot for the situation:

I can use 2d mode and change settings to zoom in and out, but not change the 3d mode settings. I would like to move the arrow more to the bottom and zoom more in 3d mode so i can see the roads ahead better.

Is there a way to tweak that?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] pzucchel:
...for your information, Navigon 7.3.2 is out...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bouya_k:
Yep

I updated but doesn't work anymore black screen ...

Did re-apply the xml from 7.3.1 ?

Also in fresh I still not have the Q1/2008 grrrrrrr

Thanks in advance
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] toutatis:
see here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=492589

I got too the black screen. Just replace binaryconfig.xml with one provided by hausen in his post and it works ! :)

End of February, I received a mail from Navigon announcing the release of the Q1 2009 maps. I contacted Navigon because they were not available on FrehMaps. They answered me that they will be available for Mobile Navigator 7 PDA edition on the second week of march. Well, they're late. Maybe next week.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bouya_k:
Thanks for the infos

It's working ;)

Ok will wait for the q1 2009 ;)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mip003:
Hej Guys

I have been running up and down this thread without finding a solution to my problem so I hope some of you might be willing to help me or point me in the right direction if i missed the answer to my problem in this megathread.

Here it goes ...

I have recently installed the MN trial version from navigon to my HTC Touch HD, after applying the xml. files i got it to work. I also installed the Navigon Fresh software on my laptop (runing on xp), but every time i try connect my phone to Navigon fresh it says "No navigon-software could be found" (translated from danish)

I have registred on their website and Navigon Fresh, and the sofware is installed on my micro sd-card on the phone.

i have tried to connect via activesync and directly with no luck. If anyone could help me i would be much obliged.

best regards mip003
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hausen:
maybe you should try to insert the storage card into an internal cardreader... but I'm not sur whether a try&buy (unregistered) version is entitled to perform upgrades via navigon fresh at all...

good luck
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] mip003:
Thx for the reply hausen

I got it to work now... updated from 7.3.1 to 7.3.2

The catch is that i used my Vista Home premium PC instead of my XP laptop, so apparaently there are som issues with navigon fresh and XP?!

brgds

mip003
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rolud:
3D Buildings...

Hi all !

I’ve updated to 7.3.2 yesterday, and with Maps Q4 2008, I did not have anymore the 3D buildings !! (worked well with 7.3.1…)

Then I installed the new maps Q1 2009… and no 3D Buildings either…

Does someone have an idea ??

Rolud
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] papimuzo:
HI Rolud,

I installed 7.3.2 over 7.3.1: found no difference...

How did you get Q1 2009 maps for PDA version?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Steili:
Good question...

Yesterday I checked out the maps in Navigon freh software and there were still only Q4/2008 available...

?!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rolud:
Q1 2009 Maps...

Actually... through Navigon Fresh, I did the update from 7.3.1 to 7.3.2... of my registered copy of the software itself, however I did not buy the "Maps update"...

So now, if I want to update the Maps... I have to go through "search on the Net"... to find new Maps...

That the way I used to obtain Q1 2009, witch is fine except for the 3D Buildings...!

In fact, the 3D Buildings wasn't working either with the official 7.3.2 software...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] andilein:
Try this file with MN6. Should be streched VGA to 480x800.

andilein
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Eriol:
... and before you do so, look here, scroll a bit down and see the pictures. Ugly, huh? So, I really hope that Navigon offers an update. In fact, I think Navigon adds pixel map graphics with the possible screen resolutions for icons and backgrounds and so on. That's the problem. 480x800 is missing. Not in, yet. Nada. Nothing.

Eriol
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rolud:
Mobile Navigator 7

OK Guys... I've just finished the installation of MN7... ;-)

And actually, yes, I'm still finding the "stretched" fullscreen pretty ugly... and I changed it again to 640x480 !! OK, a part of the Touch HD beautiful screen is not "used"... however Navigon is much "good looking" for me as is !! ;-)

By the way, thanks a lot for the 3 modified xml files... installation of MN 7 was made without any problem...!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bill340:
How does it look in portrait mode? Is anything streched there also, or is the graphic ok in portrait mode?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rolud:
It depend ! If you use the 3 modified xml, you will have MN7 stretched on both mode, portrait and landscape...

And if, like me, you change it back to 640x480, you will have exactly 16 mm of the screen "not used" also on both mode !
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ephety:
Many thanks for those xml files, but it only runs on portrait mode.

How can I switch display to landscape?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bill340:
Could you please post some screenshot, how it looks in portrait view with 480x800!?

Thanks so much!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rolud:
MN7 Screen Captures...

Here you go...

1x mode 640x480 and 1x 800x480... portrait...

I still prefer 640x480... the speed limit's icon is round... ;-)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bla3603:
MN7 is working with 480x800 and 800x480 after customizing some xml files, so far so good.

My question: is it possible to enlarge the width of the streets and the street names? See screen shots, the 2nd is fully zoomed, but the streets and their names are practically unusable while driving a car.. :confused:

regards+thanks
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] bill340:
Can anyone tell me, how the registration process works?

Is it done by username? Or is there any kind of device-id used?

That might cause problems, when using different roms and the device-id might change then...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ephety:
Yes it's with device ID, like tomtom.

[to be confirmed: changing Roms or Radio Roms on my Diamond has not affected the device ID. It has never changed at all.]

By the way, I'm still searching how to have the landscape mode, I tried to edit the xml's but I can't switch it. I also tried to use Gyrator2, wich works with TT7 but it's useless with MN7.

Can someone help me?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tboy2000:
I may be wrong but I think the phone needs to already be in landscape mode BEFORE you launch the app from programs menu. Try it and let me know. I don't have my HD yet.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ephety:
Allready tried that, launching it while opera is running in landscape mode.. It remains in portrait mode.

And with gyrator2 I have that strange result:
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] tboy2000:
ephety have you tried the files in post 1?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ephety:
Sure I did :)

Without those files MN7 doesn't even start.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Eriol:
I had a quick view on the xml-files; the changes made to them are quite obvious. There are some directories/paths mentioned, though, that I could not find within the folder structure of MN7. I expect that both font size and icon style can either be manipulated by other changes of xml-files that we have not yet been able to find; or we would have to change the icons as well. I remember that we did this for themes for MN6 (the good old times :)).

May be someone here has got any ideas?

Eriol
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] needacloud:
gyrator and mn

hi,

i have the newest version of mn and gyrator installed and for me it works in landscape mode. i go to programms via the windows menu, switch to landscape and then i start mn.

but when it comes to navigation i get some memory allocations error messages. clicked ok and navigation worked.

i wonder if it is possible to configure gyrator that way that it launches mn automatically in landscape mode and that it dont switches between landscape and portrait mode.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Rolud:
MN7 in Landscape mode

Actually I'm using Gsen, and MN7 works well in landscape mode !

I just have to launch MN7 from the Windows Program Menu... because Gsen doesn't rotate the Manilla screen...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] ephety:
I tried to hard reset and reinstall, and now it works fine in landscape too. :confused:

Thanks for your advice anyway.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] hkr:
MN7 Landscape

A german guy wrote an application to start MN|7 directly in landscape mode. Just install and start from Explorer ...

Just install it to the SD Card, where MN|7 is installed ...

.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lustig2:
Navigon Fresh

How do you guys connect to your Touch HD using Fresh?

Using either USB or card in PC I always get 'Invalid Device Definition'. The only thing working is Backup, for all other functions in Fresh I get the above message after the 'Connect to...' dialog.

If I for example select My System if briefly pops up a system screen (I think) before the message.

Any ideas?
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] papimuzo:
Till now the only mode I succeeded was to put the storage card of the HD in a card reader to the PC (Windows XP).
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] lustig2:
I get the same message even if I put the HD card in my PCs reader (running Vista)

Re-installed Fresh fixed my problem!
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Quantique:
OK i've just read ALL the 39 pages....Nothing about my problem:

i installed the try and buy 7.3.1 version of MN7 today, with the map of europe.

When i try to use it, it tries to connect to a server and it always end with the same message saying approximately this (approximately because it says it in french):

"Navigon must be verified through Navion PDA portal. MobileNavigator will close now".

ANd it closes, and if i launch again same thing...I've never been able to test it !

I'm on SFR (Vodafone), tried with wap (no connection at all) and web (ends up with the message described above), tried with the web connection launched before MN7, and of course i checked that it is a 7.3.1 version and modified the 3 XML files tried a soft reset etc...

Does someone know what the problem is, please?

Thank you
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Matthes42:
in the try & buy version MN7 has to connect to a server via internet in order to proof your valid copy. it does it every time you´ll start MN7.

It seems as if you disabled your internet connection. test it to connect to internet via opera. if that doesn´t connect either try to fix it.

afterwards you will be able to start MN7 as well
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Quantique:
My internet connection works for everything else...And i don't know how i can set MN7 to use Opera and not IE (but both can connect to the internet, i use both...)
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] toutatis:
The connection to the server is used to check your trial version. No Opera or IE windows is opened. After the check that can take some time, the number of days left is displayed.

When I had the trial version, i was unable in rare occasions to perform the check.

No problem with the paid version because there is no check. :)

Try again. If you can access the internet, it should work.

And Navigon MN7 is really good.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Quantique:
I'll try to reinstall...
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Lord of the Badgers:
ok, going back quite a few posts...

i have the problem where, when in landscape mode, the trial version shows a weird screen layout - it doesn't rotate properly.

The poster reported that hard reset & reinstall fixed it, but I'd prefer not to go to such lengths... any thoughts please? software looks good other than that

i suppose my other favoured alternative is copilot though, but i like the fact that navigon allow you to try first
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] toutatis:
That's the function missing in MN7 : the rotation while in use.

To have MN7 in landscape mode, it must start in landscape.

I remember that some user posted some files to ensure that MN7 starts in landscape. I did not try them as I'm quite happy with the portrait mode.
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Lord of the Badgers:
thanks! it's hard to plough thru such big threads :)

edit

now it hangs again, as the xml fix doesn't seem to work in the landscape mode

will have to revert to portrait mode.

v annoying! looks nice otherwise
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] Quantique:
I removed and re-installed MN7, fixed the xml again, following everything said in this thread, but i have the same bug than before.....

Can't connect to Navigon PDA portal to use the try and buy version....Data connecton works otherwise, without any problem, included in Route 66
[Touch HD Themes and Apps] papimuzo:
Look at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446487&page=21 post #202

It works well at least on my installation. The small program rotates the screen then run Navigon. At exit, replace the screen in portrait mode.

HTH.