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[Touch HD Accessories] KaidM:
IS Application Report

OK guys as threatened in my earlier post I took the plunge on Christmas Day morning and applied the IS to my HD.

Thirteen hours on I have the following report / tips to make:

I washed my hands thoroughly to (temporarily) remove oil from my skin.

Gave the HD a good wipe and clean before starting the process.

Applied first the camera cover, then the large back cover, then the bottom back piece and finally the front cover.

Whole process took around 30 minutes.

I am planning on protecting my HD using a combination of IS to protect the front and a silicone case to cover the sides and back.

I struggled with the back bottom piece as getting them to stick round the corners was difficult but in the end I just waited a few minutes and once it started to get a little sticky I was able to press them down.

General advice is use the solution provided to ensure that the sticky side of the cover is wet but I let any excess moisture drip of naturally just before applying it to the phone.

Also apply the solution to the non sticky side of the cover once you have it in place to allow for easier use of the plastic/rubber card as when wet this would easily glide over the surface of the IS and I have no markings on my shield.

With respect to the front cover it was tricky, but I found that when I tried to press down the edge of the phone and remove air bubbles that this would then create air bubbles and imperfections on the other side of the screen or on the side of the phone. After 5 minutes I decided to just try my best and leave the front cover alone.

The result after about 4 hrs I returned to review progress and to my horror found a large air bubble running down on the LHS side of the screen. I pressed down the front ridge / edge further and left again to dry.

When I returned to my phone 11 hours after first application I noticed that the air bubble had again reappeared and once again I pressed down to try to eliminate it.

13hrs after application I am happy to report that the 11hr pressure applied to the edges seems to have had a positive impact and the bubbles on the side of the screen have NOT reappeared.

Seems to be therefore have gone well overall.

Final tip I would like to give readers contemplating application is; try not to be a perfectionist and remove every bubble but let the material do its job.

I of course may be wrong in the above observation but will have to wait 3-5 days for the final result and then write an update.

Hope this helps and if requested will post some pics of my phone.

Best wishes for the season.

KaidM
[Touch HD Accessories] kitano2009:
so the replacement ons has got no SPRAY? how are you going to install it?:confused:

with clear water?

I have just send ZAGG customer support the mail. told them I got same problems like horizontal lines appearance and bubbles.:mad:

told them it is NOT INVISIBLE at all.

that was wasting my money,

I need to buy silicone case. and monitor coart(the original one)again.

use them instead IS.

:mad:
[Touch HD Accessories] _Fly_:
I warned that IS is not as good as most people think. Fill them with boxes of mail complaints may be making a decent product ...
[Touch HD Accessories] bogdatov:
The problem with silicone is that you have to have your phone in a pocket at all times. HD is kinda big for a pocket. No belt clip, right ?. Or there are silicone cases with belt clip ?
[Touch HD Accessories] johnpatcher:
The one for my x51v has a belt clip, but I couldn't find any for the HD with a belt clip. But to be honest. I wouldn't even consider carrying my HD on a belt clip :).
[Touch HD Accessories] hannawald:
you can make the solution yourself with water and soup. For the right blend see the page of bestskinsever and their instalation instructions.
[Touch HD Accessories] xtac:
I guess there was a typo error so here is the correct version cheers!
[Touch HD Accessories] s1lverback:
i believe tomato is best,vegetable gives to many bubbles and oxtail leaves to much meat under the silicone.sorry i couldnt resist :D i was looking at getting these invisible skins and im bloody glad i didn't now.there not cheap and they don't work (by the look of it) so not great really.looks like its going to be a case for me,and added bulk :(
[Touch HD Accessories] Cheeze[iT]:
I just requested my "replacement" be sent and it said it comes with squeeze thing and solution. I will try reapplying one more time before I decide what I want to do. I might just leave the back piece on if it doesn't work and use a different for the front face.

What did you guys use to clean the phone before applying the shield?
[Touch HD Accessories] jetjockgordo:
Who wants to make millions?

Now, why hasn't someone come up with a way to safely dip these expensive puppies into a rubber/urethane mix that can be peeled off? Mask off the areas you don't want covered and apply the coating with maybe a little extra around the corners. Know anyone in movie special effects that does those "masks" for actors that can help us?

Also, when will HTC and the like make these expensive machines with a little more durability built in? Oh, silly me, that would make them last too long and put accessory companies out of business (along with the extra rubber coating taking away from its aesthetics, yeah right-thanks Steve Jobs!).
[Touch HD Accessories] jetjockgordo:
Proper application technique

I know this is an IS thread (might help when applying an IS) but I have applied many (for co-workers) screen protectors and clean my own pro camera equipment and my best tool for a dust/bubble free application is my shop vac. I make my own "clean room" by using the wide floor attachment and clamp it so it is about 6" above the pda/phone I am working on and let it run the whole time I need a dust free work zone. You would be amazed at how effective having the vacuum near the work zone is at keeping the dust away (just kind of noisy).

Along with the shop vac, when I clean digital camera sensors and lenses, I use Pec-Pads since they are lint free and they work perfect when applying screen protectors. If you are using paper towel or pretty much anything else, forget about it, getting rid of dust is impossible.

I have applied my HTC screen protector for my HD and it is totally perfect, not a single bubble and took me 30 seconds once the area was prepped.

Tools used:

Shop vac,

Pec Pad,

Lens cleaner,

Powder free latex gloves (or food service gloves)

Scotch tape (to remove a stray dust fiber if needed)

I see many people complain about the factory protector but it is, in fact, quite nice if applied properly.

Regards,

Gordo
[Touch HD Accessories] Neofolis:
Do you have any photo's of your perfect application, so we can see how ours could look?

I should mention that since applying my IS the screen is far more responsive and much easier to use. I( don't seem to have any of the problems associated with tackiness that people have mentioned other than the phone has become a dust/dirt magnet. The 3-4 days for air bubble dissipation seems like an under estimate, as mine has been on for 3 days and the air bubbles look identical to how they did at the time of installation.
[Touch HD Accessories] VizagDude:
Here is my experience. I orderd the Full Body shield. After it arrived, I tried installing the screen protector... It was HELL. I just could not avoid the bubbles and no matter howmuch spray I put on. I left it for a day to see if it gets any better... but there is no difference.

I jumped and bought the IS the moment I knew they had one available for THD... but its useless. I used full body IS for wife's iPhone... and I was pretty impressed they way it covered and 0 bubbles.

But the experience with THD is a nightmare. Right now I just have the Camera cover perfectly installed from the IS. I washed the original screen protector that came in the box and re-applied to my THD. I have to say, it stuck pretty good even the second time around after the wash. Of course, it still does not stick to the few edges... but much better than the IS.

Just sharing...
[Touch HD Accessories] hannawald:
discount

till 31st Dec there is a discount on Zagg - 30 percent.

discount code: SITEWIDE30
[Touch HD Accessories] TheNose:
I've just applied mine 2 days ago (front only) and I'm happy to say it was a perfect application. :) It took me about 20min to put it on, gently sqeezing the spray and bubbles out. After I was done there were about 4 small bubbles left which have disappeared after a day! :)
[Touch HD Accessories] willwmj:
that sounds good. i think i will buy one for my hd lol~~~:D
[Touch HD Accessories] xtac:
Glad to know there are some who have sucessfully installed the shield with minimal problems/fuss.
[Touch HD Accessories] Atze001:
I aplied my IS past 8 hours. The backside looks great but the front seems ugly :-( Will wait 2-3 days and will make pictures of them.

If it would not better I will pull of the front cover and install BrandoUltraClear and leave only the backcover on my device.
[Touch HD Accessories] Cheeze[iT]:
haha thats i plan on doing too if I don't like my second application of the invisibleshield.
[Touch HD Accessories] Icefeldt:
if you only order the "front shield".

do you get a shield without these "side-wings"?
[Touch HD Accessories] JohnQ:
FRONT (the whole screen is perfectly installed. but the around the screen. its. just a ****! totoo ugly. dont know if it will dry up 2 or 3 days later. back is perfect.

im considering a replacement of the front side. SHIX! usless screen protector!
[Touch HD Accessories] Shetlander:
Well ive had my invisishield on for a week now and I think ive given it long enough to settle in.

When I get home the front protector is coming off. Its too soft, I hate it. Im gona put back on the original HTC one untill I get a Martin Fields or Brando one.

Ill leave the back on though as it covers the corners and camera cover when lying flat. (The small bottom piece is gona get redone due to some funny looking rippling underneath. The upper part isnt perfect but it does its job and I cant see it so....)
[Touch HD Accessories] funstuffalex:
my hd camed whit a screen protector inside and its very good but i just got 2 or 3 pieces of hair under it and i cant removeee

dose anyone know were can i get a second screen protector same as the one camed in the box whit the HD?
[Touch HD Accessories] jetjockgordo:
Sure, here you go.

BTW, the pictures shows the metal edges with some dings and that came from it dropping 20", the first week I had it, onto the pavement before I got a silicone case. The first HTC screen protector saved the glass and I have since put on another (pictured) and have a second as a spare. I got the HTC protectors from eXpansys in the USA.

Regards,

Gordo
[Touch HD Accessories] TripleMPower:
You guys can give this a try too.

http://www.imask.com.hk/profileen.htm

This is a company in Hong Kong. The shop that installed the bestskinsever for my Touch HD. Now they have got a new product called imask.
[Touch HD Accessories] kwan80:
u cant order..
[Touch HD Accessories] liddlefeesh:
See those fine horizontal lines on the display? Well, they're absolutely horrid. They're really obvious (although my camera isn't too good at capturing them) and Zagg have acknowledged these are a defect in manufacturing.

However they are still trying to get me to pay to claim under warranty when they, themselves, acknowledge they sometimes ship defective products.

God help them. This kind of attitude stinks, and I encourage anyone who is feeling like taking the risk with an Installshield to go elsewhere. Their technology isn't unique. But one thing that is unique about them, that they have totally crap customer service and take a very loose interpretation of the law.

And I cannot believe how polite, friendly and patient I've been with them either. Very level headed in my reviews of their product.

Don't do business with Zagg.
[Touch HD Accessories] frustin:
that settles it for me. i'm not buying one of those.

i am however, interested in the imask in post 274. where can you buy them from?
[Touch HD Accessories] Hampelman:
I totally agree. I only have the screencover thing and it's way too soft. Using the stylus is next to impossible. I'll wait till I read some reviews here about the Brando, then I'll consider switching to that one.
[Touch HD Accessories] JohnQ:
everywhere is fine but the front around the screen

everywhere is just fine but the front around the screen. is totally ****. very ugly. it's becoming white. and i've been waiting for nearly a week. the white part still doesn't disappear!

check my pictures.......feel so bad
[Touch HD Accessories] TripleMPower:
Hong Kong. Check the link that i posted. YOu can try to send them an e-mail and see if they can arrange one for you.
[Touch HD Accessories] frustin:
well, it's too f**king late, i dropped it yesterday getting out of the car, chipped it around the bottom edge (USB side).
[Touch HD Accessories] cybermaus:
Bummer man, I feel for you. But at least it is still working.
[Touch HD Accessories] xtac:
Hmmm the pics are a little blur i can't really tell. In fact, i think they look pretty decent
[Touch HD Accessories] JohnQ:
yeah, but the front side around the screen . its ugly.
[Touch HD Accessories] Cheeze[iT]:
hey guys, i got my replacement invisibleshield in and I can say it looks a lot better than the first time i did it. I'll post pictures soon tonight. I got the screen to look better but the edges still show some stuff. oh well. can't get them all... but ill let you guys judge it as well.
[Touch HD Accessories] kjt57:
I sent them an email to see if available in the UK. They replied HK$168 plus post but no details of how to order!

The email came from

Kenneth Leung

Mobile Beauty Workshop Ltd.
[Touch HD Accessories] njan_ivide:
hey people sorry i couldnt update on my invi experience (am still busy with university exams. now taking a break ;-)) any ways as i last posted i had mailed them complaining about the horizontal scratches on the screen. they replied me as follows:

Thank you for contacting ZAGG, home of the invisibleSHIELD! My name is Marissa and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

I'm sorry to hear that the installation process did not go as planned.

In general, our lifetime replacement guarantee only covers normal wear-and-tear issues, such as scratching and peeling, and typically does not cover installation difficulties. However, I am willing to extend a one-time courtesy replacement for you.

The minimal reshipping and handling charge is $3.95 for an estimated 1 - 2 week delivery service (three weeks internationally) and includes free application solution and squeegee. If you would like to purchase a faster shipping method, this will be available.

After receiving your replacement, we will request that you send your original invisibleSHIELD back to us with your order # or registration number. This will ensure that your lifetime replacement guarantee remains valid.

If you would like a one time courtesy replacement invisibleSHIELD please email us back to let us know.

I hope this helps! Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or comments.

All the best,

and i received the new replacement last monday. well this time it seems buch better than the previous one. i will post the pics soon here...

Cheers
[Touch HD Accessories] Petee:
I have the Brando on the front and the InvisibleShield on the back.

I reckon it's a great combo. It still leaves the front sides exposed, but that's a relatively small amount of surface area.

The Brando front protector is amazing. It's not easy to apply, but it's virtually invisible when applied. Clarity is exceptional, although it's just as reflective as the original glass screen in sunlight etc. It's very durable - no scratches as yet and I really abuse it (my phone's a commodity, it doesn't get treated with kid gloves). It also gets covered very quickly in fingerprints, but you can quickly wipe it on your shirt to get rid of them!

From what I can see of the IS rear film, I wouldn't want that on the screen itself (too rippled). While I like the tactile nature of the IS for the body, I don't think it's suitable for the front.

Just my 2p. All in all it's cost me about £20 for the IS and £10 for the Brando, but worth it, IMO.

Cheers

Pete
[Touch HD Accessories] robnil:
Now I recieved the IS 40 days after ordering. This is my thoughts:

The backside and battery-cover makes an almost perfect fit. No bubbles and almost invisible. But it was a heck of a job to apply it. Dont take lightly on the application. You need to be good with your hands. If you are not you better take help from a friend. Each film takes 20 - 40 min to apply. You have to hold it and rub it until it dries. Tape is a bad idea since it sticks to the surface and it hard to remove afterwards without destroying the hard work.

Dont use the rubber-applier they send you. Just use your thumbs and fingers and make use good use of the bottle of unknown substance they include.

The frontside is another story. As told before in here it would be better to have two parts of the film on the frontside. It is practically impossible to get it perfect here. I stuck the film flat first and let it dry before I worked on the sides in a futile attemt to create a small threshold, but there will always be a small uplift where the screen meets the hull. Is is quite possible that the original protection from HTC is better up for the frontside. Although then you wont have protection on the sides.

Appart from this the film seem to do a very good job. It protects the surface and feels very strong.

At some degree the sensitivity of the screen is affected negative. More than the original film from HTC. Maybe I can live with this.

And remember, you have to dedicate a whole evening for the application. Do not think you can fix this in a moment or you will be severly disappointed.

*UPDATE*

After several hours the film has dryed. Now I can actually force the threshold on the front with the rubber-tool. I can remove almost all lifted areas. It is possible this will not stick after some hours but it looks fine now. I also removed two annying bubbles by making a small hole with a needle and squeese out the the air.

As for now I am pleased with the product
[Touch HD Accessories] Psygnosis84:
You guys should get the Expert Shield, they are bloody awesome.

heaps better than the ones supplied and whatever airbubble that might be under the expert shield, it fixes itself up within a few days.

On ebay cheap!
[Touch HD Accessories] njan_ivide:
As promised here are the pictures of the new IS on my HD... looks far better than the previous ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=447427&page=17 ) there are still air bubbles along the edges but then it is reducing day by day... hope it turns out fine in a week...

Cheers
[Touch HD Accessories] willwmj:
hey, you IS seems not bad. i will apply my next week.:D
[Touch HD Accessories] Behold:
Just got mine.... Time to apply it......
[Touch HD Accessories] willwmj:
here waiting to see your pic:D
[Touch HD Accessories] Behold:
Well i ordered 2 one for the HD one for the wifes Diamond

The diamonds is not bad. went on well few issues on the screen will see how it settles.

Touch HD... Rear cover is fine but the screen is trully poor. its failed to stick in soooo many places on the edge. I have written a complaint so im hoping to get a response onit. To be honest its cut wrong and doesn't cover the screen 100% Perfect. I think i will try it again if they replace it if not its going back. shame as the back is all shiny now and i like it....
[Touch HD Accessories] bigdeal88:
wow!

anyway nice writeup, i doubt they ever reply again... that kinda sucks.

i started a poll regarding i.s to let the folks here decide..
[Touch HD Accessories] xtac:
The bubbles really will go off in a couple of days. Mine did. I think the trick to it especially for the front piece of the phone, you need to really make the IS wet to the extent that when you apply on it, it can slide freely for you to adjust in place. If you cannot slide freely when you put it on to adjust its position, you are not applying enough fluid on the IS.

Well that was what i realised after applying it twice..
[Touch HD Accessories] sedde:
Guys i received my invisible shield as well 1 week ago, and i tried to apply it. There is no way that the front cover will ever be applied ok since the monitor is not level. I mean there is a small difference between the digitiser and the side plastic so it will never cure without gap in the sides. I only installed the back parts and re-installed the original HTC screen protector since it feels better ( its not that grippy ) but nonetheless you need loads of skill in applying it correctly so you wont hit the side plastic.

Anyhow i am done with those screen cover stuff, its time consuming and never leave good results.
[Touch HD Accessories] robnil:
customer service not very good. I have mailed twice to make them check my prepaid shipping. They have not answered at all. Fortunatly the package arriwed eventually.

*correction* Today they answered my mail with a polite response :)
[Touch HD Accessories] bogdatov:
Professional installation ?

Not sure if that is old news ... but today I was in Brandon mall (Florida) and saw InstallSHIELD kiosk (!!!), where they sell protectors and also INSTALL them. Installation is $10 full body and $5 for screen only. Not sure if installation is included if you buy protector in kiosk itself. I decided to give it a try. The installation guy never did HTC HD, but told that he does about 100/week installations. Hair dryer and big bottle of solution sit on his desk :)

Anyway ... he spent about 1.5 hour on my HD and STILL cannot make those side-of-a-screen bubbles to disappear :( But back cover and all edges were much better then when I tried it. He told that in his opinion design of screen piece has a fault. Instead of having screen piece flip over the edges, they should have that piece cover screen ONLY. He told that he is going to call corporate about that. Did not charge me !
[Touch HD Accessories] robnil:
That is correct but you can get rid of most of it if you wait for 24 - 48 h for it to dry. Then you can squeese it out cause now it sticks easily.

There is a but disturbing rubber feeling when using the stylus tho
[Touch HD Accessories] sedde:
Ofc he cant since they havent even get a HTC HD on their hands to see that the screen isnt flush with the plastic. There is no way this would actually cure on our screen no matter what.
[Touch HD Accessories] Behold:
Not cure but redesign the cover so it does work.
[Touch HD Accessories] golightlygl:
iMask in Hong Kong

I happened to be travelling to HK and emailed Mobile Beauty Workshop. They were friendly and efficient and quoted me HKD168 (about £15) to supply and install. I left the phone with them for half an hour and it came back perfectly protected. Nice, friendly and helpful people.

Best results were seen after about 48 hours but there is not an air bubble to be seen anywhere. A really perfect fit. You are strongly advised to leave it for 48 hours before exposing it to "rough" treatment.

As to the effect of the shield (and I think one can assume that this is similar to the Zagg product), I have to say it is a joy to be able to just sling the thing in my pocket and not worry about it. The faff with the pouch is a thing of the past and coupled with Pocketshield I now have a really useable device.

The downside is that it seems to smudge even more easily than the plain glass screen (yes it is possible) and the back goes from matt to glossy. On use, I don't find that the touch accuracy has changed that much, but it does have a sort of "rubbery" feel which makes sliding one's finger across the screen slightly less pleasant as it sticks and judders on its journey. Interstingly, this stickiness makes it all but impossible to return to the pouch even if I wanted to.

I don't think it will be for everyone. I shall let my business partner play with my phone for a day or two before we apply it to his phone - but speaking personally, I'm thrilled I got it done.