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[Off-topic] avathar behemoth:
yeah i live in a country with very low crime rates... and the cops are kinda decent here (not good in all cases) the mood here seems to tilt more toward repression and in my view thats a retrograde step .

i think you are very defensive slawcop, and usually people that know that theyre wrong are like that :)

in any case we dont have cops running around, using unnnessecary force against people with a gram of weed... confiscating their cars unless they can prove they didnt buy it from drugrelated funds (which is impossible, so in fact the cops are robbing their victims blind) and there are so many more instances of "misguided" policing, nope i wouldnt like to live in the states at all...(which is great cuz i dont) :D

oh and mark fuhrman did not make a misstake.... he WAS a misstake and if you stick up for mr furhman ... that makes you suspicious....he was corrupt and abusing power... he should have been locked up.

and also i dont get the "MAN" comment... seems that right wing people that dont like to think, accuse thinking people of not being "men".

and thats a process called "projection" where you "project" your feelings of deficiency onto another (who usually has the qualities you feel are lacking in you)
[Off-topic] slawcop`:
Well wow I am surprised we agree on something…and yes it is your opinion, but unfortunately you developed it from what the media is saying instead of finding out for yourself…I wont Google the case because I wont listen to the media when they don’t know the facts of the case. I will admit that the law enforcement officers did something that are not “Standard” in cases, but that is it….for you to calls cops ridiculous is what you titled the threat….think before you speak or type….

I am a detective and you don’t have to worry about me being naïve…why…because you cant get me…to confess to something I did not do…and guess what…if I did it…I would admit it…because I take responsibility unlike a lot of others in this world…

I love how you think we trick people….come on what are we using Jedi Mind tricks….jeeze man…what are you watching…Lawyers have no idea nor do they go through the classes/schools we go through so they don’t know as much as they claim to know about our interview techniques. Guilty or not guilty has everything to do with this….if it doesn’t then why are we talking about it….you tell that too the victims families who lost loved ones….and again you don’t know these cops (curt by the way isn’t the correct word) manipulated the legal system to prosecute a child…I see that you edited your post, which is good I think..

Yes I have suspected someone based on circumstantial evidence….and yes have interviewed them and gotten them to confess..and yes cases are won and lost on circumstantial evidence…, but that doesn’t have anything to do with me…that has to do with the judge, and a jury of our peers…..

As an adult and a man you should be able to admit that you did what you did because you were wrong…not because I tricked you..for those of you who cant admit to it then yes techniques are used to try and help you admit to the responsibility of what you have done and try to make a mends for it. …Miranda does say that….it says anything you say can and will be used against you in court…which also means anything you say will be used in court… so it can hurt or help you….it doesn’t mean that only the bad things you say will be used….an example….”yes I shot my wife.” That is not the only statement that can be used how about the entire statement, “yes I shot my wife, as she came at me with a knife I did it to protect myself.”

I agree that a child doesn’t have the same mental capacity as adults…next time when you post don’t be so quick to bash someone or the profession until you have all the facts….maybe a less dramatic or coarse approach would have been better…..
[Off-topic] slawcop`:
Yes, I might be a little defensive…and the reason for that is when people make uneducated attacks on a profession, system and idea that I love. True, our system may not be perfect but the ideology behind it and where America has came from means something to me. I guarantee you, if you have a police force you do have cops running around using unnecessary force on people for all kinds of things..you know why they are human…you probably don’t hear about it because you don’t have freedom of the press like we do….or because you are not a cop and are not on the inside seeing what is happening. If you have drugs shame on you…I don’t care how much…don’t do drugs its against the law…so whatever happens to you when you do them…you pay the price…its not like you didn’t know…you played the game now suck it up and deal with it…or I got it you can blame the system, the cops and everyone else for your faults instead of yourself.

Without using Google tell me what you know about Mr. Fuhrman….and the OJ Simpson case….nothing….I am not sticking up for him he was a bad apple…and he got what he had coming…if he couldn’t have been the investigating cop then OJ might have gone to jail…

I wouldn’t expect someone like you to get the “MAN” comment…it has nothing to do with right wing, left wing, right field, center field….it has to do with being a “MAN”. You did it admit it…don’t blame America, the system, your mom your dad, the media, the cops….just admit it….

The last part was kind of funny…thanks…I needed a good laugh….
[Off-topic] avathar behemoth:
slawcop,

hey we agree on something! mr. fuhrman was a bad apple... so there is some reason in you yet :)

i think you missed the point of my "being a man" reaction/comment.. but thnx for misunderstanding that gave me a good laugh.

i live in a country where big drug dealers are dealt with.. not the poor basterds with a teeny tiny amount.. just like we dont put female officers on the streets to entrap poor johns...

american ideals are great, really, the idea of freedom and justice for all ...great,

it's just that the practice strays from the ideals to the point where many cops think that breaking the law in order to enforce it is good. where entrapment is legalised... where colour determines whether you go to jail or into rehab.. etc etc etc.

the failing of that ideal/system is why you are so defensive, lets be honest. if cases like this where only excesses you would shrug it off, like the fuhrman thing!
[Off-topic] Mikulec:
If u can name me just one good working ideal/system that is working in reality I will eat my shoe. There is none. The whole world is corrupted, and that is the sad story here.
[Off-topic] avathar behemoth:
@mikulec: Do you ever have the feeling that youre quite negative? :P

only ideals mittigated by practicality work... in the end ideals only give a direction.
[Off-topic] Mikulec:
My g/f says it to me often, but I think I am just a realist.:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] slawcop`:
Well since you claim to know so much about my country, what country do you live in? I am sure I don’t know anything personally about it, but I bet I can pull up some wonderful facts off the internet or news and quote them right back to you…I believe this country deals with drug dealers and drug users also and since I see it first hand I think I know more than you do about it…….drugs is drugs buddy….You are obviously one of those people that think the government tries to entrap people instead of admitting your fault….if a guy solicits sex from a woman then he is guilty of soliciting prostitution….and prostitution is illegal…the stings are called proactive police work not reactive…

In any system (including yours) everything centers around people…yes people Americans, cops, black, white….make mistakes…so there is always going to be the possibility of the ideals being messed up, but there is more good then bad…and since you obviously cant have a thought of your own also and have to rely on the media take comfort in this….relax and enjoy the protection and freedom that I and other public servants provide for you….enjoy your morning latte, coffee and rest your pretty little head at night under our blanket of protection and security.., cry and complain and blame someone else…. Instead of taking responsibility….and know that when it is all said and done…whether you like me or not….whether you like America or not…I will protect you and do my job so you can have the freedoms that you take for granted….
[Off-topic] burgertime:
If police did not trick people into confessing or saying something that could be used against them then there would be no innocent people in jail. So if detectives did not make ill advised judgement how would someone innocent even get to trail? They wouldn't.

No one is claiming you guys have special powers, but most of the people interrogated are usually idiots. It doesn't take much to get someone to admit to something a smarter person wouldn't.
[Off-topic] slawcop`:
If a grown person can be "tricked" into confessing to something that he or she did not do then there could be some kind of mental deficincy involved...and if that is the case then there is legal recourse through the courts for that prior to a trial....Innocent people have been to jail I am sure of it...but you know what cops didnt put them there...people citizens....a jury, a judge did...based on the evidence or facts at the time...hence the entire system is based on fellow "MAN"....Ill advised judgement of a detective as you call does not get a person to trial...probable cause gets them there.....probable cause by a judge....they are convicted by a jury of men and women who believe beyound a reasonable doubt that they are guilty...

No most people interrogated are not idiots...you have no idea who I talk too or deal with...again you are assuming and talking out and you know nothing about it, which is why this started....you really are stubborn and naive....but you know what you are allowed to be because you are free...I just would like for you educate yourself on facts that you have learned not on CNN or "water cooler" talk....go ride with some cops...take some classes...learn the criminal justice system....contribute to something be postive instead of negative.....dont spread rumors gossip....
[Off-topic] burgertime:
Again I have dated a CSI and two girls whose brothers were police. No they were not detectives but isn't that what most beat cops aspire? Either way the point is the detectives create the evidence to convict, so again they are based on judgments by the detectives. You gather up enough evidence to "prove" guilt based on a jury.

As I stated before I have also served on a jury. It was a felony drug case. So again I know how the legal system works. We can run around in circles all day but we both know that it's in everyone's best interest to get a confession and short of torture psychological tricks are fair game. I personally think it should be fair game.

The question is, would you as a detective follow the same procedure these officers did? Or would you try to find a parent, and if a parent was not found what would you then do?

Oh and here is a good video about why you should never talk to the police:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865
[Off-topic] JimmyMcGee:
Ok, This thread is going around in circles, You either hate the cops or you respect the cops, depending on experiences. And I doubt very much you could convince someone to agree with you. As we can see.

Though I personally would like to state that slawcop has a Great idea, Ride-A-Longs are really great experiences, I suggest everyone do one.
[Off-topic] Hyden121:
I can say that just because someone under age kills someone is no reason to treat them like a minor. I have worked in LE for a number of years now and I can state that while there are a number of cops out there that have given the name a black eye, there are far more juvenile criminals that have perverted the use of the system. Just because a minor kills someone does not afford them the freedom to get away with it. It is important to question ANY suspect alone and seperate unless they ask for a lawyer. If they do not ask for one and start talking then it is important for you to take note of what they say. Parents get in the way because they will always be protective of their kids and in my opinion rightfully so. BUT on the other hand, if the minor is capable and willing of comitting a major crime than they should be tried as adults. What is a minor killed a family member of yours? Would you let them get away with it in hopes of them being rehabilitated? Remebmer that it was stated that they are not showing you the entire video and that is ALWAYS the case. Just like the Rodney King beatings.... Many people of all races have agreed that King deserved it. He was on PCP which inhibits any pain stimulous at all and it took 6 officers to TRY to keep him down. Regular non deadly force hold and techniques rely on painful stimulous to subdue the victim and minimize injury. The press only saw a few minutes of the full video then ignorant people just took it upon themselves to rally for some person that they never knew because he was black. If a white person were in that position then it is doubtful that the riots or anything else would have happened. There are always two sides to the story and it is very important that everything is done in a professional manner. Remember that cops still have to play by the rules while criminals just abuse them every chance that they get and then cry because they feel that their rights were infringed upon. Society associates that once you become a police officer you have no more rights. Criminals have more rights than the average law abiding citizen. For the amount of stress that LE oficcials go through I would cut them some slack. Most lose their families because they are putting their butts on the line. I am not saying this because I am an officer but because I have lost a few friends that were defending others and lost their lifes doing so.
[Off-topic] Mikulec:
The best statement so far.;)
[Off-topic] avathar behemoth:
so if a pig kills a man you want to put him on trial as an adult too? :)

maybe you want to start burning witches as well LOOOOOoooooOOOOOLLLLL

hahahahaha both you and slawcop are either flamebaiting... or your mindsets are terribly deformed and you shouldnt be allowed to own a weapon!

@slawcop.. america is not the defender of the free.. they trained the taliban setup al quaida and now they use their henchmen to curtail all freedom... america has raped south and middle america and africa for decades... need i go on?

oh yeah the us started an embargo in 1940 thereby FORCING the jappanese to attack you.. your president knew about the impending attack and let his people die just in order to get public outrage ("land of the free..whoever told you that is your enemy" rage against the machine)

furthermore americas time has come and gone... soon you will be a second rate power
[Off-topic] Mikulec:
Looks like this thread needs to be closed.
[Off-topic] Hyden121:
I agree. The thread is for discussion no flaming or knocking countries. I too believe that the government is a different entity all it's own BUT merely found groups that were already waging their own war.

As for me carrying a weapon... I put on that uniform, bullet proof vest, and weapon every day realizing the fact that it could be my last day. I fight to keep peace whenever I can and to do what is right. I cannot speak for everyone but I CAN speak for myself. As far as I am concerned I am willing to trade my life for someone that I do not even know! Now if another pershon should choose that their life is not worth much then that is their own choice. My life is the only thing that I can offer to try and make a difference where I am at. I may only be an individual but there are many others such as myself that would say the same thing. Everyone is held accountable for their actions especially Law Enforcement officials. You are welcome to your own views but I would encourage you to do a few ride a longs with local law enforcement offices to see what really happens out there. It truly opens your eyes.
[Off-topic] avathar behemoth:
well hyden,

i tried to reason, and i respect your view and profession, without policemen we citizens would be in trouble.

my point is that you as a law enforcer need to be a balanced individual not a gun slinger or right winger that considers himself allways right without any introspection.

people that seem to shout "usa usa" and come up with the "we saved the world" remind me of hulk hogan.. an extremely dumb man, that has an "unhealthy" relation with his daughter (yeh you know what i mean). the usa has given the world a lot of good, but has also done a lot wrong, some intentionally.

to claim that children of 8 can be held accountable is contrary to reason.. however you look at it! no 8 year old wakes up and says: you know what today ill shoot someone.... its either an accident or... something was really wrong with that child! by the way noone here said anything about the tone slawcop took.
[Off-topic] Hyden121:
Well I do agree that the USA is never perfect. No country will every be. Mistakes will be made and unfortunately not everyone that needs to be punished will be.

I do agree with you fully that no one in a position of power (Officer, soldier, or any other position) should ever be a gun slinger. That is why law enforcement has turned towards being more professional and punishing those in its ranks that would be that sort in a much harder way. Oh well. I wish you the best. No hard feelings either way. On a side note I have worked for the government and on Capital Hill so I can note that I have seen many many sides of many different situations. The USA is far from blameless in a lot of things but they do help other nations as well. As we enter this new presidency I believe that you will see some radical changes in the US. I just hope and pray that the US can roll with these changes.
[Off-topic] burgertime:
Hmmm..doesn't every thread pretty much go around in circles?

I think you can respect the police while at the same time being critical.

I think the problems is that police officers are human and people forget that. They are held to such high standards, but a lot of times that is because of the prevalent attitude they themselves hold. For instance here in Charlotte two police officers were gunned down by a black guy. Did the media or anyone say, "well we don't know the whole story". No, they immediately set up these men as pariahs. Two months later a park was built in their name. I only heard one person say anything slightly negative about the officers and that was a man on the bus who happened to live in the neighborhood and he claimed they were not exactly on the up and up. I still have not heard why the guy shot these cops, but certainly no one holding out judgment on the man who killed the officers.

Why were parks and charities setup in these officers names? Why was it national news when it happened? Because It's a fraternity that lives and dies on the legend that is the police force. When police officers do something negative it's always "you don't know the whole story", however when a officer is shot on duty or is attacked it's "he was such a brave officer". I try to look at everything with a critical eye (I'll admit a bit over dramatically at times) and that is why I started this thread. I fully understand that these men and women are human, and humans make mistakes. However you can't honestly expect me to respect and organization that is so hypocritical and works so hard to protect their own.

This is why cops can be ridiculous because they want to be on the pedestal while at the same being able to step down whenever they like and not be questioned. Is this all police? Certainly not, but it seems to be the climate they live under. That will be my final point.
[Off-topic] JimmyMcGee:
Brought for a Vote

Seconded!

And Confirmed.

This thread closed because like it said earlier, When people believe certain things about "power or authority", Regardless if it is right or wrong. They Don't change their mind, they change their volume.
[Off-topic] Section9:
Pardon me, if your country is 'low' in crime rate, then mine has gotto be 'free' of crime.

I used to be a Blue myself. But if you can call your country 'low' then, in comparison, my country would be 'free' of crimes ?

I think you are looking out from the bottom of a well.

Boys in blue are drilled hard since from the first day in Police academy that they do not used excessive force and hone their skills till they can perfect that.

You have no idea how cops in USA risk their lives, to protect ignorant people like yourself.

I am fortunate which I still believe so, that I was not a cop in the USA. It's good that my country's crime rate is low.

Try being a cop in USA, where every frickin' day, and I mean EVERYDAY, you feel as if you are going to a war.

You have no partner with you, well some do. You are wearing bullet-proof vest because someone can just choose to open fire at you any time. Arms are prevalent in USA.

What this cop has, is only his luck and his wits to see him through the day, so that he has served his duty, and he can at last be with his family, while thanking Lord for letting him survive another day.

Being an Ex-blue, I have seen everything. But mostly, I have seen the most side of humanity, which I wished I never did.

Before spewing out anything else, please do get your facts right. USA media is not state controlled, therefore not limited to what they can do to the footage. If you are believing what you see, thank god for your innocence. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] The_Solid_lad:
Is there a way to reverse this?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] shiner66:
What in the beejesus does that shell command even do?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 FE Questions & Answers] jacomail95:
adb shell cmd package compile --reset -a
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] Phrive:
Hey,

I installed TWRP as I have done many times before using the links from here and Odin, now all that happens is TeamWin flashes up every few seconds if I get into recovery, if I do adb reboot download, it just goes to the samsung splash screen and sits there forever. All I have access to is adb recovery, so I can open a adb shell, but from there I can do nothing.

I feel it is bricked, unless anyone knows what I can do from adb, any help would be greatly appreciated. It's not so much the issue twrp I need help with, I assume I did something wrong and that's caused the brick, but more the possible things I can do to fix.

Thanks in advance if anyone can help
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] AsItLies:
So did you backup the original boot partition? If not, maybe just use odin and flash your rom back. The term 'bricked' means the device is completely unresponsive, that's not your case. It's not 'bricked'.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] Phrive:
I have the original boot partition but I can't get into download so can't use Odin :(
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] AsItLies:
Use the combo keys for Odin?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] Phrive:
Tried all the key combos for download and none of them work, I figured if abd reboot download didn't work the keys wouldn't either but still tried
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] zenitsu man:
i can help go to adb recovery remove usb cable hold power+volume up+down all three together once the device vibrates only remove power button keep holding volume up+down and plug in the usb cable(connected to computer) immediately otherwise it may go to Samsung screen then in odin mode just download firmware from samfw website and flash ap file done
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] zenitsu man:
if it shows Samsung logo its not a hard brick its a soft brick i had my tab hard bricked actually no response to charger screen doesn't turn on nothing i gave it to repair guy he just removed battery put it back and it started lol
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions] Phrive:
I 'think' I've sorted it, turning the device of in this state just don't seem to do anything or is too quick not sure.

If I get it into 'recovery' I can then do adb reboot and as soon as I hit enter hold both volume buttons and it makes it into download.

Currently reflashing the stock rom so thank you :)
[Off-topic] xiazaiall:
I want to create a personal forum. Thanks.