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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Source?

*groan* It clearly has AF... AF lockon is at around 16 inche mark on the tape measure in this image and it was set by me.

edit, not set by me, cam AF did it. Edit: I must admit its AF behavior is perplexing. Manual AF lock appears to not be operational at least in some situations. It gravitates to focusing on the nearest center frame object. It has taken a few hard knocks, eventually I'm see if the other newer more updated N10+ behaves the same. Without AF a fast lense like this couldn't focus at 3 feet and at 50 ft.

I see Samsung ditched the TOF sensor which actually did some cool things. There was room for this... another hit for power users.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
You know you're arguing with a person who really has no idea about what he's talking about...right?

He's just wanting attention. He just parrots what he hears and sees without any real understanding.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Hey genius. All you did was prove how a pinhole camera works. The UW angle camera on the Note 10+ is a pinhole which doesn't need an auto focus.

You demonstrated the properties of a pinhole camera but don't understand why it works the way it does.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ZXR:
No, it has not. I should better ask, which source says, the uw-lens has AF, but I checked for you.

No AF technology listed on Samsungs page: https://www.samsung.com/us/app/mobile/galaxy-note10/specs/

Reviewers clear statement: https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-review

"The ultrawide 16 MP (f/2.2, 12mm) is the least specced-out module, with no autofocus or OIS"

You can play a bit on this page: https://dofsimulator.net/en/

using an 1/3" Sensor, focal length 1.8 mm, aperture 2.2.

If you want to see it by yourself, repeat your uw-lens test, but get closer. The range at e.g. 0,1-0,5 m, do not move your phone and take two pictures. One pic "focussing" at 10 cm and one 50 cm. Compare them, if your phone was not moved, the pictures will be identical.

There is some technical understanding, but blackhawk is so locked on a good N10+ and a bad S22u.

Different opinions are fine, I just get triggered if wrong facts occur.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. I'm like you, in that I get annoyed when somebody posts wrong information, or parrots something without understanding.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
I no longer respond to them aside from the occasional gif.

You would have a more meaningful conversation talking to a fence post.

Hint: trolls get really annoyed when you ignore them.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Interesting. Correct.

Fixed focal length.

Rather chintzy of Samsung. Many sites list as having PDAF... not.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
For the ones saying battery life is bad:

Is more than 13 hours bad? I'm not even doing the slightest effort to make it last. I have tons of background apps running, aod notify doesn't even turn off (ever), same for the lock app, i have 120hz screen, and I'm not using ANYTHING to increase battery life.

I just use the phone. A phone that has infinitely better camera than N10+ (and i use it almost daily), i listen to spotify about 1-2 hours a day at least (1h in gym) with bçuetooth phones. Bt, location, nfc never goes off. I remember turning bt on/off everytime i connected/disconnected a device to spare battery. I don't do that anymore.

I just don't even have to mind my battery. When i go to sleep i just charge it and it's hood to go another day.

You can argue tje battery should be better. You can even make a case that it's not that good. But it's definitely not bad.

I get more time than my S21+ with a phone that consumes more with better hardware.

If a Note lasts more it's because it is a weaker phone than the S22U.

My old 2005 motorola lasted for weeks, so galaxy Note ia crap and motorola is good.

As was said several times, smartphones nowadays just consume too much. They're mini computers.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
Agreed - I'm getting over 10hrs SOT with no debloating - just tweaked android settings. There has been no studdering or heat issues no matter what I throw at it (S22u SD 12/256).
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] peacey8:
My two cents: I have a SD S22 Ultra (12GB RAM) and my experience has been more than stellar. I came from a N20 Ultra, and the S22 does everything faster and better. No lag on any app or when switching for me. Buttery and smooth. Cameras are phenomenal. Storage is plenty. And it charges to 80% in 30 minutes, that's ****ing fantastic!

What I especially like is how Samsung is one of the first to release a phone with 6GHz WiFi spectrum support (WiFi 6E). I'm so stoked to not have to use the congested 5GHz spectrum anymore. I can reach 1.7Gbps over WiFi on 160MHz channel width with my phone! Now that's what I call innovation!

Slow SD cards, bulky removable batteries, 3.5mm jacks, and your grandpa's FM radio... These are relics of the past. Modern phones are built around a thin form factor and being water proof. Some of these technologies make it very difficult to make a phone thinner or water proof. Time to say goodbye to the past. The world has moved on.

Exynos issues aside, I think one problem is some of you expect innovation to be so drastic in one year. The reality is technology only gradually improves bit by bit, and eventually every decade or two we have huge innovations that change the landscape completely. One day we will have 20 hours screen-on time with 10GHz 24-core CPUs. But this innovation has not come yet.

Enjoy the phone and how far technology has come in the mere few decades of transistor and mobile phone development. It's not healthy to be so upset over a piece of metal and glass.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
The Galaxy Note is dead! Long live the Galaxy Note!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
Yes, the 160Mhz channel width on the S22u wifi6 makes a noticeable difference and is not mentioned much. I can connect to my wifi6 router at up to 2.4Gbps if I'm standing close to it. I'll typically be connected at 1.2-1.4Gbps as I move about my house. That's double the speed of phones with wifi6 with 80Mhz channel width such as the S20. The multi-stream capabilities of wifi6 makes the wifi snapier even though your internet connection speed is the same.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Umm, the N10+ is 1mm thinner, throw that under the bus. With a case every less mm helps. It's also 30gms heavier, a good case is needed.

A V30 SD card can read fast enough to stream high res movies no problem. A V60-90 can write fast enough to capture those huge 8K vid files while recording. They will eat up internal memory fast.

Since the SD card should be used as a data drive, write speeds generally don't matter, a V30 card works fine. If the load crashes and burns the data drive usually survives untouched to do a full reload if you planned ahead. Critical data doesn't need reloading; reasons will all my PCs are dual drive.

Wouldn't you really rather have 1tb more expandable memory for $179 if you need it? I would and do.

I rather have a physical sim card as well. The N10+ has the same ip68 rating... if I was you I wouldn't test that too much especially with brine water.

Samsung flagships used to have everything they could pack under the hood, now they have excuses to take their place.

Perfectly Apple woke.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] peacey8:
It's a great feature and it's nice to see they were one of the first. Here's a real world speed test with fast.com with the S22 Ultra. 2 Gbps on WiFi is not something I would have imagined 10 years ago.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] peacey8:
Of course it would be great if they added an SD card (even V90 reads 4x slower than internal drive, but I digress), but I don't really care if they don't add it either. It's not a deal breaker for me, personally. The phone's storage is sufficient for most people, and they have up to 1TB (!) models. If you need more than 1TB on a phone, you should probably be rethinking your storage use, as the phone's storage or SD card is not meant to be a long term backup solution.

You can easily store your critical data off the phone (on the cloud or NAS) and reload it another way (WiFi or USB). You can also connect a USB OTG flash drive to the phone if you really needed to. Most people won't be doing this anyhow.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Holy ****! A full whole millimeter???

Your posts are to be laughed at hahahah.

I only miss the Sdcard to make clean installs of roms and twrp without losing my files (having to paste dozens of GB back to the internal memory).
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
A quality SD card that's kept in the phone at all times will easily outlast the phone. I then simply backup the card redundantly to hdds in case it gets wiped out. I use a .5tb OTG flashstick for quick dirty backups as well.

To load the new N10+ I backed the old .5tb card up to internal memory then used that to the image to populate the new 1tb card for this older N10+. The .5tb card then went into the new N10+. It has everything needed for a full reload including installable copies of all apps. I load them directly from the card, no guess work or Playstore needed.

The database is good to go after I make a few homepage shortcuts. Good as it gets for a stock Samsung. 2 back to back bootloops and factory resets convinced me to streamline my Android reload process🤣

I have SmartSwitch copies for homepage setup but don't even completely trust it for that. I never trust it with critical data, copy/paste/verify only.

Only apps, the DCIM and download folders go on internal memory. Occasionally I use it for scratch space. I can reload at anytime, no internet connection needed. Only vetted data goes on the data drive. It integrates seamlessly with internal memory when used like this.

Android 11 and 12 would likely puke on this, I run Android 9 and 10 in part because of this and to avoid cpu cycle sucking scoped storage. I'm not pleased with Google Android and their adhoc Apple copycat security solution. It will be another year or two until that dust settles.

This OS load is 2 yo, still fast, stable with minimum maintenance. Security is not an issue; Pie or higher is reasonably secure unless you do something stupid.

This system works well for me as such, any new device will need to accommodate it. I've use the similar dual drive strategies with my PCs and laptops with excellent results and no critical data loss.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
I'm enjoying this. He doesn't (or can't) understand that the more he talks the more it makes him look like a self-absorbed dolt

Anyway. To be honest I pretty much stopped using my microSD card on my Note 10+ as my primary storage for a few reasons. First, Samsung Gallery doesn't sync photos and videos stored on the microSD card to OneDrive (I have an Office 365 subscription with 1TB of cloud storage). Second, I use Samsung Music and it was having issues recognizing my music collection. Probably because I encrypted my card. Finally, because I encrypted the SD card, the phone took longer to boot.

I didn't realize how much I was not using my SD card until started backing up my SD card to transfer everything to my S22 Ultra. I realized that I was only storing about 10-20MB of files (I was using a 512GB card with 512GB internal storage).

I don't do a lot of clean installs of ROMs and only factory reset as a last resort. The last time I did that was on my old Note10+ that I traded in for my shiny new S22 Ultra.

The people that got the 128GB version may think they don't have enough storage. I don't have a lot of sympathy because they chose to get that model knowing the microSD card reader was not included. Evidently, it is easier to complain than to practice better file management.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DaReDeViL:
Ok guys, enough is enough !

The thread title just got changed in order to be more precise :

So all S22U users are invited to post their experience, as asked by the OP himself. Anything else may be considered off-topic and can be automatically removed.

The thread will be locked for some hours to ensure that everybody reads this message.

Thank you all for your understanding and collaboration.

Have a nice day.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] craznazn:
How about me? I'm on my 3rd S22 Ultra (SD). I've had the 8/128 and 12/256. This phone is terrible and I regret my purchase.

It all boils down to:

Really crappy software, I don't understand how the samsung fanbois live with OneUI. For example, it fundamentally changes how dual SIM is handled compared to all other Android for no other reason than saMSuNg.

CSC, why??? I bought unlocked phones so I don't have to deal with carriers, don't give me carriers FFS. Hardware supports XYZ bands, let it support those bands without mucking with them based on which SIM is inserted. And FFS don't restart my phone if I want to swap SIMs, you don't see this in ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER.

Compound it with locked bootloader, can't even fix this with a rom.

Hardware wise, holy poodles, this thing heats up. I really feel for you exynos folks because the SD variant is already terrible.

Yes, I realize this is a problem with SD8G1.... which is a Samsung fab lol. Also, while other OEMs have issues, none are as bad as this phone

Why does the battery suck? How does the OP10P have decidedly better battery life?

The samsung fanbois can go on and on about this phone, yes it has a good zoom camera, yes it has a stylus. In a vacuum this phone is not bad. In comparison with competition and the expected performance, this phone is not a good buy. As soon as a suitable SD8+G1 device comes out in the US, I'm gone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] notnoelchannel:
Exynos variant?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] LuthorKid:
I feel you man. I don't know if next year's flagship will be redemptive over this year's mess, but I'm gradually swayed by iPhone's performance and battery endurance. I heard the new iPhone 14 flagship will have a cooling chamber. Honestly, I'm on my last straw, and if Samsung maintains its callous nature come next year, then I'm porting to ios not minding its almost bland nature. I'd rather experience solid fluidity back to back plus seamless sync over a throttling brick with a piss poor battery life. At least I'm paying my money's worth sort of even though these companies are greedy AF and none of these phones should cost over a thousand plus.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] wholelottared:
The title should be ''their'' not her/his.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] peacey8:
In my experience, my SD S22 Ultra (12G) doesn't have any lag or other issues with camera, GPS, or other hardware. It's smooth as butter here.

Okay their fabrication yield is not optimized, but how does that affect us? It affects the shareholders and their profits of course, but it doesn't affect me as a consumer. I don't even use the Exynos variant, but as long as Samsung has enough yield to build the phones then that's all that matters (they just have to run their fabrication process twice as many times).

Does this apply to the S2x Ultra and other variants or just the S2x base model? Because I used Geekbench on my S22 Ultra and it does show results from S21 Ultra, S21+, and S21 5G variants. See picture below for proof Geekbench hasn't removed these phones. You can also see from the Geekbench score that the S22 Ultra is 30% better than the S21 Ultra.

Not necessarily. You're assuming all things are held equal, but the S22 Ultra has different hardware that could use more power such as a better display or even different software optimizations.

In my experience, the 45W adapter chargers the phone to 60-80% in 30 mins, and full in 1 hour. It's already super fast. Any improvement is welcome but I'm not going to cry over that as it's already so fast. I would rather I save my battery life over charging it in an instant.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
More than 15 hours today. I love my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] BigDisplay:
Nice 😃, did you actually use your phone this day? 🙏🏻

Which version do you have, Snapdragon, Exynos, 128gb og 256gb??
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] alan_uk84:
Why crop out the usage?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Yes. Of course there are days I use it more and days I use less. Battery varies with usage, but I cant remember getting less than 10h.

EDIT: Snapdragon 256 Gb

@alan_uk84 what you mean crop out usage? I posted exactly the usage.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] moist_line:
Just got the phone about a day ago, Snapdragon 256 version after trading in my Note 20 Ultra at a significant discount. I'm not impressed with the speakers as the top one is noticeably weaker even compared to pixel 6 and the design language could be improved upn. Besides being a bit chunkier but with a newer chipset, better dex performance (one UI 4 vs 3), and camera, this doesn't feel like a significant upgrade from the note 20u. What really motivated me to trade my device is the high trade-in value for the next year or so if I decide to upgrade.

I hope the next device comes with better refinements -- sd card + headphone jack like Sony lol...

What features would make the s23 ultra a "better" device for the cost in your opinion?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Guyinlaca:
Coming from the Note20 Ultra as well, the biggest upgrade appears to be data speeds on Verizon. The camera is marginally better, but everything else seems about the same. I'm happy with my 512 GB version overall, but instead of processor speed boosts, I'd rather see more efficiency and sustained performance. On very hot days, this thing can get warm and throttle. The Note20 Ultra did this too, but less often. The 16 GB RAM version of the S21 Ultra seems to run very well, so I'd like to see the return of 16 GB RAM. Also, I hope they bring back the stronger vibrate motor.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
That's BS cause it includes screen on time and screen off time. Nice try - next time don't crop the pic!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] iShubham:
I got the phone around a month back.

Performance

For the first couple of days of my usage, I felt the lag, stuttery UI, but I got the mid-may update in couple of days and the phone is running smooth since then.

Battery

I am getting 6-6.5 hours SOT per day 100 to 10%. I have limited the phone to charge to 85%, in that case I get around 5 hours.

My Question

The last 5% of the battery die within like 2-3 minutes. Is it normal on Samsung devices or for other s22U?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
A 5000 mAh battery... this what Im getting with a degraded estimated 3600 mAh battery due to be replaced in a Note 10+, most of the last SOT was streaming vids. The S22U should grease this ancient relic.

Something isn't right... Sammy we got a problem and it's you.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Wtf are you talking about? The information displayed is the same in my post.

8:46 battery left at 60%. A full charge goes 14:36...

What info you think I was hiding?

Oh, you want the screen on time?

Here, yesterday it was about 9h. But i didn't got to 0%, as i said it is avout 20-30% at the end of the day.

And again, I'm not doing effort to save battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Griffin7296:
The value of the object is in the eyes of the beholder, its yours alone - while there maybe others with a similar experience sharing your opinion, its not universally applied to everyone...get another phone now or later and move on so to keep your sanity.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] skoobz:
I mean, can you really perceive an app opens .000045552423 seconds slower? If you can, good for you. I have used many phones and right now I rotate between 5 phones and the s22u is a solid snappy phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
That's all good. Most post just their SOT but your original post wasn't clear that it included screen off time. Thx for clarifying.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Hey, no problem. I didn't noticed when I posted, it wasn't bad faith.

Still, it's a good battery life. I could get more if i tirned screen to 60 Hz, some apps off and things like location,bt, etc like i used to do. But it's very good to just not worry with those things and still get through the day.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] robi101012981:
I personally didn't get more than 4.5h SOT and 9h SOF, this with WIFI and Bluetooth on, if I have mobile data, I have like 2h SOT and 7h SOF, it's really the worse stats that I ever had on a device..Can't wait for 2023 to come to purchase another phone since this is really bad , never ever a Sammy with Exynos , they're trash
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
There's clearly something wrong. I'm getting 9h SoT without effort.

No phone lasts only 2 hours from 100 to 0%. You gotta see that.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] peacey8:
I agree with @ffp.. Something is off with your setup, @robi101012981. AccuBattery clocks my S22 Ultra's screen on time at 9h, screen off time at 58h, and combined use at 22h.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] robi101012981:
Because both of you won the chipset lottery, I changed 2 S22 ultra, both were the same. Its a trash device with poor quality control, i regret that I purchased it
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
In a production run Samsung will substitute smaller chipsets and components if inventory runs out. The firmware then may or may not run well. Until Samsung pushes a patch for those effected units if it can be corrected by firmware, this is what can happen.

It may not be correctable by firmware in which case the unit should be returned. The mobo needs to be replaced. Samsung may rework the mobo and then reuse it, don't know what they do in their little shop of horrors. Those effected phones should've never left the plant. Samsung QC sucks... they could have easily spotted this and prevented distribution. They have the in house diagnostic capabilities to do so.

A raw deal for the effected customer.

Either way the battery life sucks... you might want to try optimizing the device if you haven't done so already.

The Beast vs the Monster...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Battery charged thrice. First one before it was fully charged, 2nd one when it was fully charged and then again towards the end to some 70%.

Unfortunately, the 9 hrs 6 mins of SOT shown in this chart is inclusive of all these three recharges.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] _GRIZZLY_:
Interesting test with performance stability:

Fold 2 with snapdragon 865+ hold the most performance stability.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
There are only 2 charges in the graph, the 100% one is when I go to sleep. The other one was probably plugged to my PC transfering files. The battery would probably last those 9h from 100 to 0%.

You are missing the point here. I don't want to say that S22U has SoT of X hours and Y minutes. My point is that its battery lasts through the day with moderate use and no tweaks. If you use more, or want it to last more, then you should change some settings and the battery will hold.

What I'm trying to prove is that the battery life is *not* bad as the trolls are saying.

@robi101012981 Well, my 2 previous Samsung were exynos and they had practically the same battery life my S22U has. Dude, you clearly have a defective phone.

Are you saying that you exchanged your first S22U for another one and this one also had only 2 hours of screen on time? Something is smelling here. Something is really wrong. No phone in the market EVER lasted only 2 hours.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] robi101012981:
No, I changed 2 S22 Ultra, they are having the same sht battery life(under 5h SOT on WIFI), I went with my last device at the Samsung store in my city, and also in another city close to me, and they said ,,we can't provide to you a new phone since in our tests the phone it's in normal parameters". Samsung it's ****, I don't want to hear any more about them, only if they'll bring Snap to Europe.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] robi101012981:
Tried to uninstall all the social media apps, I got 30 min more of SOT, so it's not about the usage.