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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ecltech:
I think it'll come down to a matter of preference. I got my Fuze about 5 days ago. After using it for 2 days I thought about returning it but kept it for the weekend. I got use to it. I really like the VGA screen and it's very responsive. Of course, my Tilt is also responsive and it did everything I needed. I'm going to keep the Fuze.

My recommendation: Get the Fuze, try it for the 30 day period, if you don't like it, return it. Simple. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] hollywould:
There is a short video comparing the two.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] pazookie:
i was wondering how the optical wheel works (dpad) im considering going over to the fuze but i use xbar and i need to scroll up and down along with right to left..will it work on the fuze?

oh btw how much did you get for it jon?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] hohiah:
I've been using the tilt for a year and it works really great and I really like the phone, especially with all the different ROM you can flash to. I just got the fuze for a few days and it looks more elegant than the tilt. Love the vga screen, so much clearer. the touchflo3d is pretty cool, better than the touchflo2d I currently have on my tilt. One thing I really like about the tilt over the fuze are the hardware buttons. The tilt has alot more, especially the START and OK button.

I got the fuze only because I got a good deal for it, if not, I would keep my tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] trjons:
You're right. The lack of hardware buttons on the Fuze is a real issue.

If you're used to programming keys, you'll hate the Fuze. The physical keyboard is also a lot smaller than the Tilt.

I think I'm returning my Fuze.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] stuff:
I had a Fuze for 2 days, then I canceled it and returned it.

I love the tilt way more. The Fuze is cool, because it's something new. I like the diamond back on it, but honestly the Tilt feels better. The touch screen on the Fuze is somewhat.. unresponsive at times.

The tilt, well it tilts. And believe it or not it is a really cool feature.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] haywiremonkey:
Yes. Winner of thread. I hate how some people consider the Fuze an upgraded version of the Tilt when it scrapped one of the most uniquely fresh and useful feature of the phone.

I had the 8525 before the Tilt and I can't imagine going back to a Tilt-like phone without the tilting action.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] drb123:
I'm using the Tilt for a longtime and satisfied....but

So, if I try out the Fuze, what software issues will I run into with the most popular programs that I use

1. Pocket Informant

2. Spb Mobile Shell

3. what about Wisbar and PocketBreeze

I imagine utilities like backups, memmaid, and Resco products will work?

How about dictionaries, etc

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] _LEM_:
I don't know too much about the technical details, but my experience is this:

Fuze pros:

- Faster

- VGA screen

- Back light that can be used as a flashlight.

- Touch screen FINALLY really reacts when you press on it with your finger.

On the Tilt you had to press really hard and sometimes it didn't work.

- Smaller

- Flat design so you can press easily on the borders.

Fuze cons:

- D-pad is crap. Useless

- Missing hw buttons.

- GPS lag and random disconnects (however I think this can be fixed with custom ROMs)

- Battery doesn't last long (same as before)

Overall I'm happy with my Fuze and I wouldn't get back to the Tilt!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] macaraballojr:
Hey Guys,

1 quick question. I love my tilt had it for a while and was thinking of getting the fuze but I am looking for a phone with these 2 main features the g-sensor and FM radio. are these availible on the fuze?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] hohiah:
the fuze does come with g-sensor and fm radio, but radio needs the headset to be plug in as the antenna.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nkawtg:
On quick one on the FM Radio. The hardware is there but no way to run it. You either have to use a cooked ROM or use the FM Radio cab.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ZekeD:
Sorry to drudge up a 3-day old thread, but it was relevant to my question.

I've had an 8525 for a little for a year now, and it's starting to poop out on me. Occasionally the hardware buttons stop working, and while in use the screen with start to completely white out and takes a few minutes for it to come back (though it appears to work perfectly fine despite no usable screen, the touchscreen works).

Instead of attempting to fix it, I am considering upgrading. I have the option to get the Tilt for about 100 bucks, or the Fuze for about 370. I have drooled over the look of the Fuze ever since I read about the touch pro on the web this summer, but the tilt seems like a good phone as well (despite poor reviews). And lots of people seem to love their tilts.

Is the Fuze worth the extra money? I don't really like the Touchflo interface (i tried it on my 8525 for about a week and went back to my standard HTC Home screen). And the tilt seems like an upgrade from the 8525 in all accounts (i rarely watch videos and I don't take pictures with it that need a flash).

Thanks in advance,

-Zeke
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] RojasTKD:
Personally I think the tilt for $100 is a much better value. The Fuze does have a few upgrades over the tilt (VGA, FM Radio, little faster Processor, mor RAM & ROM Tilt sensor), but not enough to make me spend that much cash on it. The tilt can do just about anything the Fuze can for considerably less.

I REALLY wanted the Fuze when it first came out. But after playing with it in the store I realized I was perfectly happy with my Tilt and might just be better off saving my money and waiting for the next generation of HTC device's to come out next year. If the VGA screen and FM radio (but having to have the wired headset for it to work means I won't use it much) are a must have look hard at the Fuze, if not the Tilt will save you big bucks. If Money is no object, sure get the Fuze... Heck, get both. But Tilt and do all the same stuff.

Now having said that In Feb when my contract is up, I might give in and spring for a Fuze, aslong as closer to the $200 to $250 range. I can't help it I'm a gadget guy. Honestly I shouldn't though. Cash is tight and I'm better served waiting for a phone that will be a bigger leap forward.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Lysander:
I have a Tilt and I really wanted the Fuze to be awesome :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Dash305:
wow.... i see there's alot of Fuze hating going on.... and alot of you guys are returning them too.... well, i picked up my Fuze about 2 weeks ago... kept it stock for about half a day before flashing NATF's ROM.... and so far i'm loving it... i guess alot of you are forgetting the crappy video drivers on the Tilt (by the way i also love my Tilt!!!.. despite the horrible video drivers)... the VGA on the Fuze is absolutely beautiful... even the poorest quality videos on Youtube Play look High-Res, Movies look stunning, and Camera is extremely nice... especially love the People, Photos, and Weather tabs alot more on TouchFlo 3D compared to 2D...

yes,...the overall speed needs improvement,... but that will change as better ROMs start coming out... and Skyfire needs to hurry up and make a release with High-Res.... but it give it time.... personally i don't think that 30 days is enough to play with the Fuze... it's still a relatively brand new phone.... eventually we'll start seeing some amazing applications and even better ROMs.... this phone has the pontential to be really great... it's every thing the Tilt is.... and sssoooo much more ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Hyden121:
Ok. So like most others in this thread I am debating between the ATT Tilt and Fuze. I believe the Tilt still has some power yet to be unlocked. HOWEVER! The camera is crappy compared to the 8525 that I had before. what were they thinking? How is the camera on the Fuze compared? I have a new baby girl and pictures are important to me now. Not to mention that fact that the Fuze has more speed (On paper at least) and twice the memory. I am just asking because I may be given the option to get a fuze with no money out of pocket. I too however have learned to love my tilt. It was an amazing phone if only it had all the proper drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] hipertec:
I was debating for a long time and finally went to the Fuze. I LOVE IT! Just the form factor for me as good enough for the change. The Camera is so much better.

As for the speed or memory, didnt see much improvement.

But it is definately the best phone Ive ever had!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] portos03:
still waiting for fuze with tilt screen..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jhr:
fuze going cheap

have you guys tried to search att fuze...there is a website

http://wsf4.letstalk.com/cell-phones/shop.htm?serviceCorpId=596

and i saw this today so i went for it...but it is $150 for the phone and a $149.99 rebate( which you have to wait on your 4th month statement to send the rebate, and you have to chose the $59 individual pland with the $30 pda plan for 6 months to get it.) if you dont care cancel it and no rebate. but i think the offer is over today and no rebate. also amazon.com has the fuze for $175 with a 25 dollar rebate different, but similar terms.

well there it is ...pay $350 with 50 mail in dirrect from att or this. you be the judge.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] sguerra923:
I had the tilt for a good amount of time.. and when I bought the Fuze it made me totally forget the Tilt... The screen is beautiful and difference in performance for sure.. and battery life with the right ROM is better for sure! Love the fuze!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jamaicansolja:
Yeah, this is my first post here here is a list of my current/previous devices. Right now I hold a iPhone 3G and ATT Fuze... Previous Phones Include= Tilt, Wing, 8925, 1st Gen iPhone, Curve, Razr2, Sidekick 2/3/Lx/and Slide(LOL really), Sprint Blade aka Samsung Blade, ton of other devices that didn't stand out.... Basically i've always had a talent of being the latest and having the hottest phoens.

Ahem,

The Fuze compared to the Tilt is like a older brother compared to younger. Check here to see a review+Video taken from the Fuze. I also did a video and am AMAZED at the quality of video and Camera. This is the first phone that I can honestly say is a better "all in one" device than the iPhone....... I just got rid of my Tilt on Friday sold it and went straight to the ATT store the same day to purchase the Fuze for a full retail price of 568$ only because all my research proved a solid and superior HTC device as never before seen on an American provider.

When the phone boot's up you will be AMAZED I mean AMAZED at the VGA screen that alone I could never go back to the Tilt. Even with the ATT bloatware the phone is noticeably faster I say about 2.5x to 3x the speed and power of the tilt. I find it ridiculous som eof the comments that the phone is not faster? That is impossible im not stupid and spec's show the phone is far superior. Bottom line the phone is much quickier, snappier, and the transition between modes on the screen for me atleast (I havent even taken off bloatware) Is almost instant. Go check out the phone for yourself and don't let your love for the Tilt cloud your judgement on a device that I say cannot be missed. Once modding becomes a norm this phone will have no competition from our old step-child the Tilt.

The Keyboard? I have read a few hate posts.. Ha complain because the numbers arent on the top? It's just as normal phones are 123-456-789- then 0 in middle. Very easy to use. I can go on and on about this fantastic keyboard bottom line is obviously your first days or week you will need some adjusting to but nothing that would or should lower a rating on the phones review.

The Camera... O-M-G im amazed. This Camera blows any phone out the water I have ever had.

Video Recorder... GREAT

I just wanted to write a brief review of how much of a good device this phone is. I have had a ton of devices non have I been overall pleased as such not even with my iPhone or my cousin's Blackberry Bold with all that hype.

I give this phone a 95%

I would give it a 100% but..... There could be improvement and we will see in the next model :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] faifai9394:
Yes Kaiser do have a bad video driver but since the screen is also small enought so it will give you a good quality on youtube anyways. I currently have a Kaiser (which I had spend 800 when it first came out) and I love the fuze when I first saw it. But after I played with my friend's fuze for a bit, I decided not to have it. Yes I must admit that the outlook/form factor looks a bit better, but the fucntion and responsiveness didn't seems to change much. If I were you I will wait for the branded xperia comes out or even wait for the next gen HTC device, because the FUZE for me is just a small leap from the previous KAISER.

Once last note, if you are currently having a tmo contract, you can switch to ATT and get the FUZE for only 174.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JimmyMcGee:
Apparently in your searching you neglected to read the Announcement.

http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?f=419

You got your opinions on the Tilt vs Fuze.

These type of threads are subjective, as you can see some people moved to the Fuze and are glad they did. Some people still like their Tilt. Its best for you to figure it out for yourself.

Also, you posted this is in wrong Forum section, this has nothing to do with Software.

Thread Closed
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] SymtaxError:
I am holding power+vol down but as soon as fastboot appears on screen it turns off and my phone boots normally

its only there for like half a second
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] NewtonPL:
you need to have your phone plugged in to the pc, and after you feel the vibration let go of the buttons
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] SymtaxError:
thanks
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] SymtaxError:
ah, it worked now, gotta wait 151 hours to unlock tho
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] NewtonPL:
we've all been there :P good luck though!
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] SymtaxError:
thanks, you too in whatever you do after unlocking
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] NewtonPL:
currently trying to fix my recovery after a glitchy flash
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] SymtaxError:
I think reflashing the recovery img will work no?
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] NewtonPL:
fastboot permission denied, I'm baffled that this error pops up, and idk which vbmeta to flash, im thinking I'll do a full wipe and revert back to stock and root again :P
[Redmi Note 9 Questions & Answers] SymtaxError:
good luck
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] asnair045:
Is there any battery life issue that anyone may have encountered ever since the previous two updates.. my 6000mah battery that used to stay for 2 days minimum has gone to a single day. It's all been after the update and i saw plenty of forums in Asus itself of the same thing.

Reference :- https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/54786/battery-drain-issue-on-rog-3

Anyone got any leads for this?
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] RebornCheiko:
You're just overthinking. Stop staring at the battery percentage 24/7 and enjoy the damn phone.
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] asnair045:
You damn right! But how, bro. When u were accustomed to charging ur phone once in two days and you have to subtract 24 hours from that.. it surw changes the usage from a gaming plus daily driver to either one of the lot .. change for the bad questions a lot of stuff
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] stiffis:
What is your battery usage? Have you tried a factory reset?
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] Andrologic:
What is showing as consuming most power? An optimized debloated ROG 3 with a healthy can go a week on stand-by with data enabled and even longer (no kidding) and easily 2-2.5 days with normal use.

You have to pinpoint what is doing it. It's wearing down your battery as well...
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] asnair045:
Yes, twice. Still does the same thing.
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] asnair045:
I tried, actually. The thing is i fear the Android system itself. Coz in one of the threads on the Asus website forums, there were people discussing Play Store or Play activities that keep auto restarting and also twin apps.

So for starters i did try to force close play services (can't disable coz of the emails), then battery turned out great. But afterwards it started reducing again. Same with twin apps.

I ain't kidding too. It's supposed to a 2-2.5day phone easily with the 6000mah battery, but for me it's a single day max to max a 12+ (3-4) hour phone
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] stiffis:
Ok. I also had some battery drain (not on idle tho) and installed Kirisakura kernel, seems to have solved the issue for me. I also wiped Dalvik cahe. It may also have been the solution
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] stiffis:
You can also try to use the Naptime app, it forces the phone into Doze when screen is off. Adb access or root is needed

GSAM can also be used to find the culprit
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] Andrologic:
If disabling Goog Play Services stops the issue, it's likely linked to one or more running apps or processes. It's likely not Play Services itself but because one or more other components are making calls to it. Try to review all the running apps & services on your device and selectively disable them and gauge the difference. Apps that do a lot of syncing, using location services, excessive notifications (cloud messaging), Firebase indexing, etc etc.... If you have a good app manager tool, that will make the hunt easier.
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] asnair045:
That's great, will try the kernel coz I still haven't rooted my phone. Does the kernel need root?

Does installing a Kernel need root access? Coz I don't want to root as of now.. and i haven't installed a Kernel ever.. is it riskier than a root?
[ASUS ROG Phone 3 Questions & Answers] stiffis:
Yes, this kernel requires root
[Red Magic 6R] vietcong:
Hello good day, I have the Red Magic 6r. The Global version was coming but I installed the CN and now want to return it to the Global and it won't let me, it sends me to the Factory Reset screen and when reset it, it starts with the same CN Rom , what can i do, please help me. CN version 2.30, global version 2.24
[Red Magic 6R] Kal84:
You have to wait for a version higher than 2.30 or in your case Android 12 to come out, the same thing happened to me and that was why, I followed several tutorials and none of them worked.

Tienes que esperar a que salga una version superior a 2.30 o en su caso el Android 12, me paso lo mismo y era por eso, segui varios tutoriales y ninguno funciono

Mod. edit: post translated. alecxs
[Black Shark 4] j94413:
2 nice developments here

First

Pay for repairs after a phone gets bricked

Successfully restored deleted flash files

This file is the Chinese version ROM

thing a few weeks ago

the second

Find and successfully convert Chinese ROM to Global ROM

just after it happened

All of the above are done using MiFlash tools

The above is almost the same operation, the difference is that the file

WARNING LOSS OF DATA AND RISK OF DAMAGE TO THE DEVICE

Any damage to the device is at your own risk

The device must be pre-unlocked BL

common preparations

1.download MiFlash tools

2.unzip MiFlash tools

3.Download the zip you want

4.unzip

5.device reboot fastboot mode

6.Connect the computer with a cable

7.Open the unzipped MiFlash tools and execute XiaoMiFlash.exe

8.Then the sequential operation of the pictures

download

china rom

Convert to global rom

If there are any deficiencies in the first posting thread, please bear with me or put forward

maybe i can do better

I'm sorry for any typos or misspellings

Because my English is not very good
[Black Shark 4] BadWolfYe:
Auth needed for flash

And bootloader unlocked for prevent full brick of device if chinese to global and viceversa converting
[Black Shark 4] j94413:
Yes you need Unlock BL in First
[Black Shark 4] Erushun:
how to unlock bootloader?
[Black Shark 4] j94413:
if your device is China is pay to unlock
[Black Shark 4] rackis18:
If global how to unlock?
[Black Shark 4] chiposh:
Hi. Where did you get it from? Do you have for Blackshark 4 pro? I need original CN ROM
[Black Shark 4] j94413:
Pay for repairs after a phone gets bricked

Successfully restored deleted flash files

I share CN rom is original oldest version(MP4)
[Black Shark 4] Erushun:
is your unit black shark 4s?

my unit is bs4s named prs-ao

im just wondering if the rom you posted is compatible also to mine or just the black shark 4View attachment 5653173
[Black Shark 4] j94413:
4 code name same of 4S is penrose you can try it
[Black Shark 4] j94413:
The same way to find china unlock service and pay the money to done
[Black Shark 4] shadowstep:
THREAD LOCKED

@j94413 Please check your inbox.

Regards,

shadowstep

Senior Moderator
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] devblaze:
Hello I tried to root my Nexus with the versions below and I couldn't

6.0.0 (MRA58K)	Link	7b438d31eb3b50e008b2d8183dda864523aaab38032e219e017956af2d7676e2

6.0.1 (MOB30P)	Link	2780fa5e07fcdc427aceb85fd78d9a205290b8bcd9f20fd3c1a145ec6985669a
6.0.1 (MOB30X)	Link	52684dffb1683ac1f012083e3476f2aad285ca937eaae1a88024ebaec1137339

so far I have tried the methods listed below

Magisk

CF-Auto-Root

Nexus Root Toolkit

but it worked in the versions listed below with CF-Auto-Root

4.3 (JSS15Q)	Link	e5793513cac2602f5943b162a3693ea44f3a793187943edbcd94a6474894c308

Any ideas why I can't root it?

Edit: There is also a problem with the WiFi I am 100% sure I put the WiFi password correctly but it tries to connect disconnects and tries again but it doesn't connect and says something like "Authentication error/problem".
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jojorios:
Coming across a little problem with my Fuze. I noticed that the stylus started having a bit of trouble going into the holding are for it. When I first got the fuze it was easy take out and the magnet would pull it in. Now it seems like i have to some what push it in and the magnet doesnt' seem to pull it in anymore. Anyone else come accross this issue? Or am I gonna have to go back to the AT&T store and exchange this thing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pjmiebach:
I've seen this before somewhere. Do a search for stylus in the forums.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jojorios:
Thanks, found it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2816609

Now i gotta find a flashlight, lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JstarLuvsTina:
u just got it, return it.

why go thru the troubles of what was mentioned in that thread.

btw..i have yet to experience any issues with the magnet and the stylus.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] migsims:
Mine was really snug at first and broke in after about 15-20 times putting it in and taking it out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] AllTheWay:
That's what she said.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jojorios:
Found the switch. on the fuze it's a little white switch that towards the top of where the stylus is. I used a toothpick like it said in the other thread to reset it and the stylus works fine now. I read that the stylus is supposed to lock the phone when inserted? Is there anywhere that has documention of any other little hidden tricks this phone can do?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Haha I would +Rep you if I could
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Rahza:
Hi,

Great that you've fixed your issue using my tips from the mentioned thread. I wanted to add to your knowledge that NOT the Raphael is magnetic but the stylus itself is. Test it for yourself. You can pick up paperclips without using your fingers! ;) So there is no point in returning your phone when the magnet seems worn out. Just replace the stylus.

Scott