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[Touch HD General] AndyCr15:
I really like the sound of that, I'll check out AE Buttons myself then.

Thinking about it, I don't miss a D pad as much as maybe the scroll wheel the TyTn II had on the side. I would use that sometimes to roll over my different e-mails and things. Sounds like AE Buttons can replace that for me though...

**Edit** Will the freeware version work on the HD?
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
Brillian! Very intuitive too. That's the kind of information that I was hoping out of this thread.

Just one question. Do you think the use of Aebutton make the device sluggish in anyway?
[Touch HD General] jamespaulritter:
Thats great,,,,,, glad to know there is an option. So you can move a cursor left and right within a word in a text document that way?
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
Looks that way. Although for me, I will still directly touch the location with my finger nail.:)
[Touch HD General] jamespaulritter:
Here is what happens for me. I directly touch the screen to edit the word frustration and it drops the cursor here, "frusstrati|on". I try again, "fr|usstration", and again, "frusstr|ation,,,,,,,,, then I say to myself Ow forget it! Close enough! so backspace till I get to the error.

So do you have better luck with this stuff or a different technique?
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
Not always spot on, but not a big deal to delete one of two characters and retype for me.;)
[Touch HD General] Insane Devil:
Are u saying this concerned to the Touch HD?

Coz in the Touch HD, if u are typing, then there is also the "soft dpad" that comes up with the keyboard, so u can use those keys, rite?

U could land anywhere in the word, and then move front or back with the soft dpad.
[Touch HD General] marcox92:
D PAD

Example : I use Noni GPS plot quite a lot.

The only way to display the menu is to clik on "OK" of a presumed D pad

I did not yet find a key to display that menu...

So I guess all these applications have to be updated .. I think the easyest way shd be to have a virtual D pad displayes as a keyboard - HTC shd think about it or others experts

As others say also on this forum , when you use the device with one hand, D pas is usefull and more precise thant touch screen...

Ans last not least, who wash hands 10 times a day ? so screan is quickly dirty

Well on my side I mostly use it as a GPS set....

Thanks for reading and eventually help....

Marco
[Touch HD General] draxredd:
maybe the solution to this could be a trimmed down simple "virtual D-pad" SIP, that one can popup when needed... what do you think ?
[Touch HD General] marcox92:
Virtual D Pad & Noni GPS Plot

Right, but am not able to do it !!!!
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
Personally?

I don't think a virtual D-pad is useful at all.

Reason: It is too much effort changing the software keyboard back and forth, back and forth. Why walk ten step to save the effort of walking 2 steps? It does not make sense to me.

I personally see AEButton Plus as a more viable solution for those who can live without D-pad.
[Touch HD General] chalid:
When the first pictures of the HD leaked, I didn't even notice the missing dpad. But the longer I thought about it the more I think it was a flaw.

Yes, I do want a touchscreenphone for easier handling, but I do want to have as many possibilities as I can get using it. With some applications the touchscreen is better, with others the dpad. This and the reported pixelproblems kept me from buying a Touch HD. Instead I bought the Xperia X1. It has an optical joystick which is very nice with some applications (reading e-mails and scrolling e.g.) and no reports of dead pixels (maybe due the higher dpi). Like I said you can operate the phone without the touchpad. But its much more fluid with one.

So: Yes, you can operate the phone without the dpad, but it was one of the main reasons I didn't buy the HD.
[Touch HD General] ionutz6:
It might be just that i was used to using the Dpad a lot in the past, but right now i feel the need for it. of course if you take the stylus out, then you can do anything, but the Dpad was useful when you didnt want to take out the stylus.

For example: if you want to change regional settings and you get to that drop-down list where you should choose your country format, with a Dpad you could just scroll down to your country. without, you need to take out the stylus, since the scroll bar in the right is not so thick so you can touch it with your finger.

not majore flaw though, just convenience, comodity...
[Touch HD General] kamilyo:
Touch hd is my first touch phone but I don't feel like the d-pad is necessary (most of the time). The only drawback of not having dpad is the need for stylus or finger nail in drop down menus. But I don't need it for anything else :)
[Touch HD General] ben_gb:
Just thought I'd follow-up on my original message...

In the end I did buy a Touch HD, and have been using it now for almost 2 weeks.

I am not missing the D-PAD as much as I thought I would. I think a big part of this is because of the size of the screen, where you can fairly accurately use your finger to press on individual options in drop-down boxes, or select lines in text. Sometimes it is necessary to put some thought into how to use certain applications or functions on the HD, to get around the lack of the D-PAD, but so far I've not come across anything where I've been completely stuck.

It is a bit more fiddly and is not always convenient without the D-PAD, for example if you're trying to select something while travelling in a car or train, you can end up hitting the wrong choice. But overall the screen size makes it something I can live with for the moment.

The main negative I think would be for games...currently there aren't many which are designed for touch-only play (for Windows Mobile, at least). Maybe, in time, this will change.

Ben
[Touch HD General] patterns:
it would be nice if we could get a pop up or soft d pad, the screen is so big if you sacrifced a little bit of room at the bottom you could actually get a virtual d pad on it

any tekkies able to do this - im defo donating if you do!!!
[Touch HD General] SingaporeAirlines:
Lack of D Pad has not worsened by experience on the Touch HD at all.
[Touch HD General] HDuser:
I took this up in another thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=426281

And at the end of the conversation the adding of a SIP D-pad would be to much work.

I feel that a vertual application that sits untop of what every your are running (Say Pocket informant) would only work if it would use the same funtion as the SIP. (what I mean by this is it needs to run in the bottm section of the screen and push the orginal application (PI) up in the same manor that the sip does).

Now since you can use the SIP in most applications (PI) and the sip has that up / Down / Left / right /Enter buttons then there is no real need for it.

Yes I know you loose lots of screen space.

Now were it is needed is on Games and here I am not sure how an application like tetris would react if this vertual d-pad application would push Testris up the screen to add the D-pad interface at the bottom.

So as this is all OS related then its a HTC issue and as HTC is pushing no Dpad devices (HD) then its an application issue left to the application developers.

Lets face it IPhone has a big share of the market and no Dpad, yet they have a lot of games were we need a Dpad to run them, thus we have turnded a full circle and need to wait untill applications on WM become touch aware.

Bottom line for me is I hate the lack of a D-pad and hate the idea of staying with my Blueangel so I live with it.
[Touch HD General] yas216:
No dpad on iphone is not comparable to

The iphone has a capacative screen this means that a virtual dpad supports multi touch, allowing the dpad and virtual buttons to be used simultaneously, like a real dpad.

The resistive screen on the HD is not suitable for a virtual dpad in the same way as the iphone, especially as use of the screen as a button also stops the 4 capacitive buttons working simultaneously, whilst this is of most consequence to gamers it still means the hd is limited in functionality in a way the iphone is not.

In fact the only solution to gamers would seem to be to have some software allow the accelerometer to be used as a dpad (or even as a analogue joystick!) however so far as far as I can see there is no software that does this for the hd (gcontroler has stopped development at an early beta stage, or is it an alpha?)
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
Have been using the HD for a while now. I must say that I have revised my opinion since, and now think that D-pad is no longer important to me.

Using finger to swipe works much better for me now when using emails. Same goes for viewing pictures.
[Touch HD General] dizzy33:
Windows Mobile 7 and 8 will be the solution ...

The main problem of the lack of a D-PAD is Windows Mobile 6 : it has been made for devices with a D-PAD. So many applications have been developped with the idea that the D-PAD will be used. The D-PAD is not mandatory, but for some things it is way better than using fingers (for a one-hand usage of the device for exemple).

HTC did made the TOUCH HD without a D-PAD just to have a bigger screen (than the iPhone) in the smallest formfactor possible. The TOUCH HD, from my point of view, just came too early on the market, they should have wait for Windows Mobile 7 (or 8 ?) to come : it will be more "finger friendly" and then the applications will be developped the same way.

So I just hope for the TOUCH HD users that the TOUCH HD will be able to be upgraded with Windows Mobile 7 or 8 when it will be available ... Did HTC mention that ?

I'm currently a Kaiser owner, and I tried a TOUCH HD for a few days : fantastic screen but I missed a lot the D-PAD ... I think that even a virtual D-PAD would not be the same as a real physical one.

I really would love to be like the persons on this forum who just don't miss the D-PAD, because then I would buy the TOUCH HD as soon as possible !
[Touch HD General] :
the only annoying thing is: i cannot play tetris. but in common: i dont miss it. :D
[Touch HD General] Wolfenzi:
Yeah B ! Thats me. Fortunately Morphgear has fully configurable virtual pad, so I have no problems playing my Pokemons Silver (got lvl 10 cyndaquil Yeah).
[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
D pad not necessary in skippoing and repeating songs

I was'nt aware until now.

In the past, I had always assigned the left arrow and right arrow of the d pad to skip and repeat music. I also use a button to blank screen. When I first looked at HD, I complained several times about the lack of D-pad and wondered how I could do the above without turning on the device.

Now I know the answer. HTC has thought about this deeper than I gave them credit for.

With wired headset plugged in, if I power off my HD, it simply keeps the TF3D music going while the screen is blanked out. This eliminates having any special button to blank screen.

Also, with power off, as long as TF3D music player is the foreground task, the volume rocker becomes the button that skip and repeat songs. If you want it to control the volume, switch on the device first.

(edit: to have the above effect, I had to install S2U2, and make sure the setting for volume button is ON and it does not lock when the screen is blanked)

In this way, I am able to just feel the volume rocker in my pocket and control the song I want to skip or repeat without ever having to take it out.

I wish I could recast my vote, from very important to completely unimportant.;)
[Touch HD General] dannyng:
I love AEButton, it meet my needs almost 95% but I encountered the below problem.

After receiving or making a phone call, the button did not work for around 5 minutes. After that the button work again.

Anyone having the same problem?
[Touch HD General] conao:
I fully agree!

Regards,

Marconi
[Touch HD General] Jais:
:(I dont know how could it happen without the d-pad, but in touch diamond with d-pad, i usually zooming in and out pictures or snapped documents by turning left or right the d-pad, and moving the view by pressing up, down, left or right the d-pad button. If you do it on the screen, the picture may skipped to the next picture. Could somebody advise before i made my decission to buy the touch hd?
[Touch HD General] m-99:
Yes, and do it than lying in the bed.
[Touch HD General] satawat.thongsawat:
I guess the one who'd like to have dpad is just like me, using many versions of HTC, and when on PC still using keyboard shortcuts a lot.
[Touch HD General] johseph:
I think it might be nice for when u are looking at web pages and the text is small and u need to click on NCAA scores and my big fingers touch NCAAW scores. I think maybe its Opera when i cannot zoom in on like ESPN.com
[Touch HD General] cakira:
While driving, I can't use a button-less phone as an MP3 player

Hi! The thread is a little bit old, but I think the problem remains.

I have an E-Ten device with D-PAD, and some other hardware buttons.

While driving, I connect my phone to the audio amplifiers in my car (the phone has a 2.5mm jack) and use it as my MP3 player. Then, I can type up/down to control the volume, right/left to skip/replay a song, right/left softkeys to go back and forward albums. (I use Slide2Play)

As I have actual hardware buttons, I don't even need to look at the phone. I just feel and press the buttons, even with the display turned off. This way I can drive while keeping my eyes on the road.

I can also execute Slide2Play and FM Tuner applications through hardware buttons, so I don't need to look at the phone.

So, hardware buttons are very important to me if I want to keep my phone as my MP3 player in the car.

Also, I keep calling the SBP Finance's Quick Entry application all the time (to record my expenses). As it is mapped to a hardware button, I can quickly call. I guess I would need to use AE Button to do the same in a phone with less buttons like Touch HD... Well, it's a commercial application, but no problems with it.
[Touch HD General] saitch76:
Only thing i miss the d-pad for is playing mp3s with TCMCP. It was nice to be able to skip thru a playlist without having to look at the screen. Other than that, as others have already said, it's a touch phone!
[Touch HD General] mightbme:
I miss it for scrolling down docs with 1 hand. I miss my Hermes scroll wheel more
[Touch HD General] LewxX:
true, true...

But I can live without it!
[Touch HD General] Tirinoarim:
I'm working on it!

I have a new version in the works (with true DPad emulation) but its pretty much a complete rewrite and with work/kids its taking some time.

Feel free to try the beta tho and give me feedback/suggestions!

GPad - Virtual (GSensor) DPad
[Touch HD General] mybetrayal:
HTCs new clear D-Pad

I've seen the ads for the new HTC phone with a transparent D-Pad that slides out, looks fancy but I bet it quickly becomes opaque with muck n grime from pockets, fingers, etc. lol

I like the touch HD w/o the keypad, it confuses most people that pickup the phone - which is good!
[Touch HD General] grezz:
Reader

One app that is important to me is MS Reader and it's when running it that I miss the Dpad. Yes, you can change pages with the stylus, but it is so inconvenient if you're using your phone to read a book!

I had a Touch Pro before, and had the same problem with that - the Pro has a Dpad, but i found it pretty useless as I ended up pressing enter most of the time when trying to page up or down. My fix for this was to use AEbutton to re-map the volume controls - short press for page up and down, long press for vol up and down. It works on both the Touch Pro and the HD, but it is a compromise - you can still end up in the volume slider if your keypress is a bit too long, and it is not as intuitive to increase or decrease the volume any more.

A virtual dpad sounds great, but I suspect it will cover part of the MS Reader screen, which would be useless - unless it somehow resizes application screens.

For me, perfection would be a scroll wheel on the right side of the HD!
[Touch HD General] JRK-Scope:
Actually a scroll wheel like that on my first phone the SE P900i would be perfect. A tilt scroller with enter function :D Evn without it though, I manage fine. Dpad is only necessary on smaller screens liek that of the Touch Diamond I'd say. The 3.8" screen offers me vast real estate for my big fingers :p
[Touch HD General] Trafalgar:
Had mine for almost a year... Yes I can get by without it

but

I still miss it. It's usefull for highlighting without opening sms and email before forwarding. I almost exclusively use Block Recogniser for input (I had one of the very original Palm Pilots [still have it!] so quite adept at Grafitii and switch to Phone Keypad for these functions.

Should be possible to map to the 4 virtual buttons at the bottom though?

Off subject, I know, but why are spelling suggestions not active using Block Recogniser? my trusty BlueAngel could manage it! Another little erosion alongside the leap forward - C'est ca.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SAMSUNGUSERNOTE4:
GT-P5210 root owners wanted

Hello all,

I have a GT-P5210 and I have followed the guides here and they dont work. Some links are dead and some authors do not reasonably explain the steps.

I have followed some guides

like the guides here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/q-samsung-gt-p5210-tablet-root.2996826/

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-recovery-and-root-for-p5210-4-4-2-my-way.2848771/

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-recovery-and-root-for-p5210-4-4-2-my-way.2848771/

https://xdaforums.com/t/q-galaxy-tab-3-10-1-model-gt-p5210-variant-rooting.2450704/

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-root-...00-p5210-without-pre-rooted-firmware.2531784/

https://xdaforums.com/t/samsung-gal...to-backup-and-what-is-recent-upgrade.4385259/

https://xdaforums.com/t/q-unable-to-flash-galaxy-tab-3-10-1-gt-p5210.2863287/

The button combinations that are listed in the posts dont work. I dont think the authors even have a GT-P5210.

power+volume plus + home is recovery, not download mode.

I need help please. I have spent a lot of time on many XDA threads. I have a GT-P5210 in Hong Kong (TGY)
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NigrumTredecim:
power+voldown+home should be download mode
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
Hello, I own a xiaomi 11T Pro.

Recently, I bought a 3.5 mm headphone jack to USB C adapter for my phone. It doesn't work and doesn't get detected

Is there any way to fix this scenario?

Oh and for more information the adapter shows up as a USB OTG sound card
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
Just to be clear the dongle is a double dongle which means it is third party
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
It is taking quite long to receive a response
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] NOSS8:
Start by posting with details and here it is not an assistance, nobody is at your service.

Ask Xiaomi.
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
MIUI 13
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
Stock ROM not xiaomi.eu
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
Third-party
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
This is the adapter
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
Detected as a USB sound card
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
I did post details
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] mauriciotc17:
Have you tried the dongle in another phone? It's not rare in that third party dongles just be defective
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
yeah i have, anyways I'll just use bluetooth for now
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] mm_rajesh:
Try rooting your phone and install Stickmount app. It may resolve the issue.
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] lethallunatic:
Not all dongles are the same!

You should get one with a build in DAC. Baseus has a very good affordable dongle, other brands without a build in DAC will either misbehave or have very poor sound on the XIAOMI 11T/Pro.

It's USBC to 3.5mm by the way not 3.5mm to USBC. the data source is where you start. So is your dongle is a 3.5mm to USBC it's meant to receive audio on the 3.5mm jack not the other way around.

I have an Apple USBC to 3.5mm, it has no build in DAC. Works perfectly fine on my old OnePlus 5T but not so well on the Xiaomi. The audio output is very poor.

Long Story short,

You need a USBC to 3.5mm with a DAC (Digital Audio Codec) Baseus has a good affordable one.

Good luck!
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Mark10101010:
I am using an apple adapter, to get it to work I plug in the adapter, then slowly plug in the 3.5mm headphones (at first not not all the way but ~0.25mm short of fully in). After multiple attempts it then detects my Beats headphones
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] mm_rajesh:
Not all usbc to 3.5mm DAC will work . There are few DAC's which are not supported by Xiaomi.
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] NOSS8:
Apple is special.

I use this one, cheap and works perfectly.

View attachment 5772931​
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Rainygortex3:
For anyone who's having issues like this, a good tip:

UPDATE YOUR FIRMWARE UPDATE YOUR FIRMWARE UPDATE YOUR FIRMWARE

I'm sorry for having to spam this 3 times but it's REALLY important.
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Adlen 16:
I have Xiaomi 11t pro

I have a problem in type c adaptateur i hear on the left side only idk why He stopped suddenly I tried other headphones and others adaptateur but the same thing .
[Xiaomi 11T Pro] Adlen 16:
I have Xiaomi 11t pro

I have a problem in type c adaptateur i hear on the left side only idk why He stopped suddenly I tried other headphones and others adaptateur but the same thing .

Help me if u can think u
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uig200:
Hi,

I want to turn my Samsung I8190 Galaxy S III mini into a navigation device. All that matters is a strong and fast GPS signal. Can anyone recommend a good kernel or ROM for that? The Android version used for this is irrelevant.

Thank You.
[HTC Vox] DmitryDV:
From time to time Vox spontaneously starts to playback mp3 files with speed up. Anywhere, any player, ringtones, reminders. After turning phone module off/on, everything back to normal till next 'madness'.

Any ideas? Updated to Windows 6.1. Same thing was on 6.0

Thanks.
[HTC Vox] DmitryDV:
No ideas at all?
[HTC Vox] Pikranus:
I have the same problem, but I've never encoutered a solution :( The only thing I noticed is that it happens less frequently on WM 6.0 comparing to WM 6.1.

Since turning the phone module off solves the problem temporarily, maybe this is somehow related to the operator?

DmitryDV, are you from Russia? Do you use MTS, BeeLine or Megafon?
[HTC Vox] DmitryDV:
MTS, Moscow. Yes I have a strange feeling that it's somehow connected with provder / SIM card. But it's definetely 710's hardware/software bug.
[HTC Vox] snaker445:
I had the same problem. It happened when the phone lost the network coverage, but after a reset everything was fine.
[HTC Vox] prajith:
this happened to me once but you dont have to reset the device.

end the media player process from the task manager and when you start it the next time its all fine.

I encountered this only on WM6.1 that too just once.
[HTC Vox] DmitryDV:
That's correct. When I am in subway it happens frequently. I am wondering if any solution available except turning off/on phone module?
[HTC Vox] CyberTod:
Same problem with the sound here. My phone works fine for about an hour and then the sounds speeds up and gets lower in every application. My phone is HTC S620. I am using WM6 now, but I had the same problem with WM5. I am from Bulgaria, my operator is Vivatel.

I am waiting it now to happen again and will try turning off/on the phone module. Until now I thought that it had something to do with some of the installed programs.
[HTC Vox] CyberTod:
After changing the ROM version several times I am certain now that it is something from the sim card or operator. When using a card from one operator this happens every hour. When using a card from different operator the problem doesn't occur at all.
[HTC Vox] DmitryDV:
I feel the same. Any solution at all rather than changing operator?
[HTC Vox] DmitryDV:
Any update on solution?
[HTC Vox] ajulien:
I had this problem with an Excalibur (HTC S620), it came sporadically, not only with MP3s, but with AACs as well. So far, my VOX hasn't suffered from this problem. I am in Mexico, with the same operator as before. MAYBE it is the SIM card, for I got a new one (updated software) when I got the VOX.
[OPPO Find X3 Pro] jemadrid:
Thanks for this. will try debloating my PEEM00