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[Magisk] creezalird:
mine works again after just turning off ADB (no need to turn off Developer Options). But I do not have lsposed installed. Just Magisk Delta with Sulist.
[Magisk] coconutxyz:
Lol thanks, I enabled USB debugging and it is not working again not rooted. Time to install magisk again
[Magisk] Kediraksith:
hmm seems like this magisk delta is long overdue... wonder if the dev is all right. Then again, it seems that even with the new update in official magisk isnt solving much root detection issue so....
[Magisk] DasZey:
How do I uninstall magisk delta? Any flashable uninstaller?
[Magisk] kevinco1:
Right there in the middle
[Magisk] JazonX:
Rename the APK to uninstall.zip and flash via TWRP.

That will remove all traces of the app.

Don't forget to immediately flash whatever the next kernal or SU provider, as the device may go into a bootloop afterwards.
[Magisk] JazonX:
Switch to Magisk Alpha.

You can search on Telegram for their channel. Currently I'm on it and so far the apps not bothering me.
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Yes, it works, just need to use devopthide and you can enable developer options+usb debugging. But my Microsoft teams not working after update... It feels like a cat and mouse chase. Always trying to hide root... 😅
[Magisk] PirateForDaLolz:
Has anyone figured out how to evade LIAPP root detection with apps that are using the new detection method? I have multiple Zygisk-dependent modules installed that are causing detection, but if I only use one Zygisk module, it's fine.

https://xdaforums.com/t/blind-app-is-detecting-root-with-magisk-hide.3830678/post-88646103
[Magisk] MohmmadUzairKhan:
How to install Magisk delta on the Pixel 5 device having Magisk stable 22.1?
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Did you have problem with the latest touch go v1. 81.1? It was stuck on the welcome logo even after 1 minute... 😅
[Magisk] coconutxyz:
Oh I haven't update lol
[Magisk] ayyash_tarar:
I have samsung A30s Android 11 rooted with magisk. (Using stock rom)

How i convert in Magisk Delta ? Just rename apk to zip and flash in magisk manager ? Or how ?

Thanks
[Magisk] asripath:
FAQ
[Magisk] Sm00thCriminal:
So in the FAQ it says

"Direct Install (Recommended)

Install, open and then grant root acccess to Magisk Delta.

In Magisk section, tap “Install” and then “Direct Install”. If you don’t see this, try close and open the app."

Does this mean you would have two magisk apps?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Delete then the old/official Magisk app

You can distinguish them by different package names

Restore (un-hide) the official Magisk app before installing Delta
[Magisk] Sm00thCriminal:
Thank you!
[Magisk] creezalird:
no issue with tngo with sulist and adb enabled. only Pbe will not start if adb is enabled.
[Magisk] kevinco1:
After you have completed the process to install Delta you are free to uninstall the original Magisk apk and will retain root
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Yeah, I managed to get Pbe to work with devopthide but UOB is detecting root. Is UOB working for you?
[Magisk] creezalird:
luckily I am not using UOB. I tried and it detected gazilions of my "untrusted" apps such as shizuku, some apps with accesibility etc2. I stopped testing after uninstalling shizuku as I thought that would be the detected apps. lol
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Finally, all works. Just need to use hidemyapp on all the detected apps on uob and restart my phone as I found the hidemyapp service was not running....
[Magisk] itachi099:
hello..i used to use magisk delta in so many roms... from yesterday onwards I cant root using magisk delta> the device got stuck in miui bootlogo.it happened after i flashed a folby module before. but even after removing the module and flashing other roms...still i cant root with magisk delta but can root via official magisk..plz reply
[Magisk] xn0live:
Hey

i have Magisk Delta 25206

Lspsoed 1.8.6(6712)

Magisk is hide called now Settings

Zygisk is active

Magisk Hide: Google Play Store, Google play Service , Banking app

Safetynet ist Passed

BUT banking app crashy why? i do not want delete lspsoed any help please
[Magisk] pndwal:
Say app... PW
[Magisk] xn0live:
what do u mean?
[Magisk] pndwal:
You just say "Banking app...

BUT banking app crashy why?"

Apps use various custom detection methods.

We can't know what works/try for you if you don't say which app... PW
[Magisk] xn0live:
the app called s-pushtan
[Magisk] pndwal:
It's working with new native bridge loaded Zygisk, coming soon to official Magisk...

Nb. This is a WIP, but s-pushTAN works for me already per:

https://xdaforums.com/t/discussion-magisk-the-age-of-zygisk.4393877/post-88467665

Nb. 2. Previously we needed HideMyApplist LSPosed module for s-pishTAN, but this seems to have changed... I've just confirmed it's still opening ok without that on my device...

Nb. 3. Delta went to native bridge loaded Zygisk loading with 25.2 delta5, but used original Maru POC NB-Zy (not new WIP Metagisk NB-Z with many compatibility fixes)... Latest fdac22ba-delta change log still lists '[Zygisk]: Switch to use native bridge by 5ec1cff' in 'Diffs to official Magisk'... This older NB loaded Zygisk may or may not work for s-pushTAN...

👀 PW
[Magisk] xn0live:
My Magisk Version is now:

Magisk installed:

b8694c99-delta (25206)

zygisk+ramdisk yes

App:

fdac22ba-delta(25210)

Package

v.gee

is it the correct one?

----

Zygisk is on

Configure MagiskHide: S-Push Tan in on

____

I hide magisk to Settings

LSposed Module

Hide my Applist, Module is acrtive and System Framework is on

open the app hide my applist

Template message: blacklist (settings and save to settings)

App manage:s-push tan (enable hide, Using 1 templates, click on settings

BUT not working, what i did wrong?
[Magisk] pndwal:
I don't know about Delta Magisk...

I told you it has old POC native bridge loaded Zygisk, but the NB-Zygisk WIP in Alpha fork has many more fixes and works for S-pushTAN... I don't know if Delta will work, if you need MagiskHide SUList etc, but some apparently need that to make banks work in Delta...

Alpha is built on latest official Magisk Canary branch and expected behaviour is closer to official builds also...

Please read my linked posts re. my device setup... May be better just to wait for official Magisk with NB-Zygisk... Devs were aiming to provide this in 27.0... PW
[Magisk] xn0live:
can u send the correct link from alpha magisk canary which will work with lsposed
[Magisk] xn0live:
b191a14a-alpha 26104

is that the newest that work with lsposed?
[Magisk] pndwal:
I don't know of 'alpha magisk canary'... I said Alpha is built on latest official Magisk Canary... Link here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/discussion-magisk-alpha-public-released-fork-vvb2060.4424845/post-88814619

They all do AFAIK... After all, Metagisk and Alpha forks are from LSP team! 🙃 PW
[Magisk] xn0live:
u mean that one right?

GitHub - vvb2060/magisk_files

Contribute to vvb2060/magisk_files development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

that work with lsposed?
[Magisk] Stillhard:
Better stick to Delta or official Magisk, and they have own thread :sneaky:
[Magisk] sawdoctor:
ATM all my banking apps and everything i need are working on official canary. I'm guessing the only advantage in switching to alpha is when they stop working?
[Magisk] Stillhard:
It's not in the option, can't recommend
[Magisk] pndwal:
After TJW 27.0 probably no advantage assuming it gets Native Bridge loaded Zygisk... Until then, for apps detecting Zygisk, Delta has old POC NBZ (and may need MagiskHide SUList to hide), and Alpha has newer WIP (more stable, many fixes) NBZ and Shamiko hides NBZ from many banks already...

I'd recommend waiting for official 27.0 (hopefully will get) if you can... PW
[Magisk] xn0live:
thank you very much i can used lsposed amd bank app :D
[Magisk] Ryuzawa:
Hi, would like to ask,

I've been running greatwith Magisk Delta for a while, all mbanking apps working great.

It's just that several root apps such as Androidacy, **** MIUI Thermal, and ReVanced Manager won't detect root access at all.

I'm using Delta 25210, Zygisk Off, MagiskHide On. Is there any workaround for this? Thank you
[Magisk] mGforCe:
Did you change ROM or updated OTA recently? And Magisk was restored by just flashing Magisk in recovery or using patched boot.img?

I am asking because I faced the same issue recently post application of OTA fastboot rom (data was retained) and then flashed patched boot file. Magisk was there with most old settings but few apps missed root access and no prompts were coming.

PS: I am using last Magisk delta
[Magisk] Stillhard:
If you activated enforce SuList mode, make sure you add them in the 'SuList' and later grant them the root access

But if that was not the case, never had problem, so can't help further
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Hi,

After the latest update, public bank Malaysia app is detecting root. I am currently in hide my apps and devopthide is activated for the app. Anything else that I can do to hide root? I checked the logs in hide my app and it actually hid public bank app

Update: the way to get pb engage to work is to deactivate devopthide module and disable usb debugging. Developer option can be kept activated. Looks like I need a usb debugging hide module from lsposed to keep usb debugging working while keeping pb engage working.
[Magisk] westruk:
There are no such working modules in public access(
[Magisk] intel_core_i7:
New 26.1 testing builds are being released on telegram, no changelog given
[Magisk] krakout:
It's alive! 😄
[Magisk] Legitsu:
going by the build number delta should contain all the latest WIP native bridge loading goodness
[Magisk] westruk:
Expect a stable release
[Magisk] Snakeforhire:
You'd think that anyway.

And yet, at the time I'm writing these lines neither Paypal nor my bank's app (it's called "Banxo" on the playstore, and this makes me suspect it could be a generic commercial app used by other banking orgs with just some overlays and cosmetic changes added) has ever bugged on me for having an unlocked BL and root... 🙄

The sole occasion when unlock detection was a problem was at work (internship position really) when the sysadmin wanted me to enroll my personal phone in an OTP app to secure my domain admin account with 2FA and the app they use (FreeOTP or OpenOTP, can't recall which of the two it was) refused to even start because it detected a compromised system...

It generated quite a stir but F them ! It's my goddamn phone and I do what I damn well please with it (this includes hard-bricking it should I ever fancy doing such a thing, if it pisses me off for a long enough time for example 😁)

Adding the offended app to Magisk's DenyList cleared the problem easily enough, but in the meantime the admin had guessed I wasn't likely to be willing to unroot just for a mere 3 months, and very kindly assigned me a hardware token of the LCD keyfob type. It sure beats having to unpocket and unlock my phone every time I need to log onto a different server anyway, so I came out of it much better off actually..
[Magisk] HippoMan:
If only banks would give us something like that key fob, so that we don't have to cripple our rooted/modded mobile devices just to be able to do our banking. They could issue us a device which allows us to make purchases without going through all the rigamarole of unrooting or dealing with the craziness of trying to get Magisk to work with various mod-hiding utilties.

Oh! Wait a minute! Banks do indeed give us such a device! It's called a "Debit Card".

And now that I think about it, I remember now that "Debit Card" devices are what I always use for my own purchases (how could I forget? LOL), instead of all that mobile-device-payment nonsense, which I totally and vehemently avoid at all costs.
[Magisk] krakout:
You're so cool and knowledgeable!
[Magisk] uschipower:
Some banks in Austria uses the app "Mein ELBA" for banking and generating TANs

With latest update, the app detects root.

Mein ELBA-App – Apps bei Google Play

So einfach und übersichtlich geht App-Banking!

play.google.com

I tested on Android 11 and Android 13. It makes no difference.

I am using MagiskDelta, Hide My Apps and XPrivacyLUA, but the app still detects root.

How can I avoid this?

Thanks
[Magisk] intel_core_i7:
Only applicable in western countries. Go to any developing countries and the only thing of cashless payment you would see in thousands of places is via a payment QR code, or well with cash. I would rather pay cash, but some don't, so...

And virtual CC/Debit cards to exist and you need to access the banking software to see the information, but the info doesn't change so you can just have it on a piece of paper and hide it somewhere, or add it into google wallet (pretty much root friendly)
[Magisk] AnonVendetta:
A key fob might work...until people lose it, it gets stolen, dog ate it, etc. And then the financial institutions have to deal with the hassle of fielding additional customer service calls and sending out replacements. It still seems like a better option than relying on SN/Play Integrity. I will never give up my root/custom recovery/custom ROMs/unlocked BL, not until they make it absolutely impossible for any of these to work. At that point, might as well switch to Apple.
[Magisk] westruk:
Works with the Zygisk off.
[Magisk] uschipower:
is there a way to hide a running Zygisk?

Has this something to to with init.rc injection?

https://xdaforums.com/t/module-initrchider.4369285/

This module would be out of date as I read in the Thread, shamiko would work, but shamiko doesnt run with MagiskDelta, only with official Magisk.
[Magisk] westruk:
I haven't seen a way to hide running Zygisk in magisk delta.

I switched to ksu + zygisk + shamiko.
[Magisk] m0han:
Why, may I ask, KSU and not official Magisk? Is there a guide you referred to? Or, did you figure out everything on your own? Can you share some documentation/link for rooting a device running Android 13 (crDroid)?
[Magisk] westruk:
I think that KSU is our future.

What is KernelSU? | KernelSU

A kernel-based root solution for Android GKI devices.

kernelsu.org
[Magisk] mrjuniork:
The detection of root has been around for a while now, showing the warning in the beginning, but that's about it. App works perfectly nonetheless.

Or do you mean something else?

In the past I have set up the app before flashing Magisk, and the warning hasn't shown up anymore.

Same with RaiPay, once set up, it works just fine when rooting afterwards.
[Magisk] Stillhard:
Until Golag hiring tian... :LOL:
[Magisk] westruk:
What don't I know?)
[Magisk] Harlock1978:
I just did the update to the latest magisk, but after the update it start like usual, but a few seconds after I decrypt the data the system reboot and stay staucked on the producer logo.

I don't know it it's related to some modules or to the update self.

I found two backups of the boot.img in gz format should I deflate and reflash?

TIA
[Magisk] westruk:
Better wait more stable release or join to comments in magisk delta TG channel.
[Magisk] zgfg:
You mean, until Google hires them 🤪
[Magisk] intel_core_i7:
Delta 26.1 stable has been released on Telegram
[Magisk] uschipower:
You are right.

It's the one and only banking app which has a root detection, but still works.

But when they decide to stop working when root is detected, then I have the problem again.

The other point is that when they can detect root by the used way, other banking apps use the same mechanism to do this.

I suppose that this is my problem at the app from DKB bank in Germany.
[Magisk] HippoMan:
The developer for KSU is named Weishu Tiann. The "tian" reference above is just a misspelling.
[Magisk] HippoMan:
"Golag", as used above, is one of the "affectionate nicknames" (ha ha!) given to Google by many people the MicroG crowd and in some anti-Google groups. It's deliberately similar to the word "gulag".
[Magisk] Stillhard:
So for the 'golag' :p
[Magisk] shoey63:
If that happens, he can join forces with TopJohnWu
[Magisk] zgfg:
Fine but you quoted the wrong post

NVN
[Magisk] HippoMan:
OOPS! I guess I now need to be banished to the Golag.
[Magisk] m0han:
Thanks. If you could respond to this part too: ....some documentation/link for rooting a device running Android 13.... especially since you have 'switched to ksu + zygisk + shamiko'.
[Magisk] zgfg:
You have the Installation page there and Download.

However, the main problem is whether the KSU app (Download) will show if your ROM is supported or not.

Still, they have a collection of links to the kernels for officially unsupported ROMs, you maybe find the one suited for your ROM

Then, there are a number of modules for Magisk with the note on their GitHub pages that they support KSU, eg, there is Zygisk for KSU (with that, you can install Shamiko and LSPosed), Systemless hosts for KSU, his USNF, and so

Eg, my ROM is not supported. Still I found one kernel for my device, per instructions I used magiskboot to patch the kernel into my boot.img and I tested by:

flash boot ...

It booted but I was not able to enter the PINs - keyboard did not work on the locked screen. Hence I rebooted to my old Magisk rooted system and gave up of KSU
[Magisk] mrjuniork:
Indeed, I have also been wondering, why they implemented the detection, but still letting the app do its thing. It just doesn't make sense.

That's why I'm always nervous when a new update appears 😅

Nevertheless, in case that happens, I'll just downgrade to the previous version, since I'm not in the mood to explore and implement various methods to get the app working again.

But the end game will probably lead to the denial of services, but so far it's ok the way it is.

What's also interesting, that when starting a new transaction, the pop-up warning appears a second time, but again no restrictions in terms of usage..
[Magisk] m0han:
I've updated Magisk to the Delta Canary released a while ago on my earlier device. The update went without a hitch, but, TBChecker passes only Basic Integrity, fails Device Integrity.

Results of all the others testing apps on my device are as before. I'm using Riru; not Zygisk. What can be done now? PlayIntegrityFix_v6.1 won't work for me, will it?

Edit: Tested by enabling Zygisk. See 'Before' and 'After' screenshots.
[Magisk] zgfg:
All as expected. You cannot run Zygisk and Riru in parallel

Since the PlayIntegrity Fix module (on top) REQUIRES Zygisk, it was disabled while Zygisk was not enabled and you could not pass Device Integrity

Nothing specific to TB Checker (same would be with PI API Checker app, and YASNAC would not pass SN CTS), and nothing wrong with Delta

Give up of Riru or find an up-to-date USNF/PI module for Riru instead
[Magisk] m0han:
Found 'SafetyNet-Fix-v2.4.0-Mod_1.3-Riru' by @Displax and it did the job. It also got rid of the 'Debug Environment' detection in m0m0. :D
[Magisk] zgfg:
Direct upgrade from TJW Canary to Delta (then, of course, delete Magisk Canary app), everything went smooth.

DenyList was converted to MagiskHide list, root grants and modules were preserved. So far, all ok
[Magisk] Pheinte:
After updating to last Magisk Delta Canary version it gets stuck on this screen.

Anyone know how to fix it?

Cleaning data/cache didn't help.

I'm on Android 11 btw
[Magisk] zgfg:
You could try with Core-mode.

From the Delta GitHub FAQ:

Create an empty file named .disable_magisk in these location: /cache, /persist or /metadata

You would need TWRP for that
[Magisk] pndwal:
OnePlus device? See here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/discussion-magisk-alpha-public-released-fork-vvb2060.4424845/post-88846643

🤠 PW
[Magisk] Stillhard:
Stay on topic :cowboy:

This Magisk Delta are getting frequent updates and this is very pleasant

Good job @huskydg
[Magisk] WhoIsJohnGalt1979:
Greetings!

I did a wipe all flash to A14 Beta 5 an hour back, saw Magisk Delta released, this is the first time am using it. Rooting process went without any issues. I hid the magisk delta app with another name, flashed PlayIntegrityFix_V7.zip and Shamiko-v0.7.3-174-release.zip in magisk, enabled zygisk, put the phone in airplane mode, deleted data and cache from play store and play services, reboot, both basic and device integrity passed successfully. Here comes the interesting part, I don't see anywhere in Magisk Delta settings to hide Apps, what am I doing wrong here Sir.

Apologies: I should have read the FAQ more carefully and not flashed Shamiko, removed it now. Basic and Device still passes just fine.
[Magisk] asripath:
Delta is going through a bit of rewrite/refactoring to accommodate 26.

Magisk hide has been replaced with unmount modules in latest version.
[Magisk] pndwal:
If you mean this response:

to:

The user asked for a fix...

I've pointed to the WIP issue/fix as it's a OnePlus related Magisk 26105 app/regression issue, not a Delta one... Can't help the fact it's not, sorry... 😬 PW
[Magisk] m0han:
Was that really required? Magisk Delta goes by a 'usually non-detectable' name: io.github.huskydg.magisk
[Magisk] zgfg:
There is just one unimportant glitch - renaming of corresponding option was forgotten

All else works excellent
[Magisk] Vision:
@huskydg Hi, I have Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Android 10, latest stable Magisk Delta 26.1, it is the correct folder path? Previous version Magisk Delta canary fdac22ba-delta(25210) don't have it there, only in emulator go there, i flash it via recovery and after open the Magisk Delta and say something to work properly and put ok and after direct installer, that is, but why go there in unencrypted folder? First time go there and the date of the folder change. Because have alright some files and folder by phone there, And not in adb folder? Someone have the same
[Magisk] zgfg:
It was also linked in Delta 25210. Don't worry, it's linked hence modules can find it both at

/data/adb/Magisk

and

/data/unencrypted/MAGISKBIN

IMO, it's used bcs /data/unencrypted folder can be accessed even before/without you enter the pin to decrypt Data
[Magisk] pndwal:
Don't think that's a glitch/oversight; 'Unmount modules' is used with a hidelist if I understand Delta correctly...

Like Shamiko and Denylist Unmount modules, which simply hijack an already disabled denylist and use the list as a hidelist (because they are 'hiding' modules in reality), it seems Delta is similarly unmounting Magisk (and modules) for listed apps while still allowing (not denying) Magisk modifications in listed apps incl. modules injecting code with new 'Unmount modules' option...

'Unmount Modules by default' option appears to be whitelist mode hiding, but whether whitelist or blacklist modes are used, list function is apparently hiding as opposed to denying. 🙂 PW
[Magisk] zgfg:
For users it would be better understandble

Configure unmount / Clean unmount (list)
[Magisk] pndwal:
Just out of interest, when you click 'Configure unmount', does it say Hidelist, Unmountlist or Denylist at the top? PW
[Magisk] Vision:
Oh understand, thanks for information. So maybe I got it wrong before in Magisk Delta canary fdac22ba-delta(25210) because the folder MAGISKBIN didn't exist inside in unencrypted folder, now fix it because after flash it from recovery, i install it again from the magisk delta itself
[Magisk] spinning_quirK:
Strange but I need Shamiko enabled to get Singpass and Citibank apps to open.

Anyone here using either of these apps successfully using just MagiskHide with Zygisk enabled?

With Zygisk disabled, unable to pass BASIC attestation and the Safetynet / PlayIntegrity Fix modules do not work.

A13 custom rom, Delta Stable 26.1
[Magisk] zgfg:
Do you use USNF or Play Integrity Fix module?

They are both Zygisk modules, to work (and to pass SN/PI) you must have Zygisk enabled (Delta or any other Magisk version does not hide eg that Bootloader is unlocked, that you run custom ROM, etc)

Otherwise, use Riru version of the USNF module (it requires Riru and you must not have Zygisk enabled since the old Riru is not compatible with Zygisk)