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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
Conclusion. It is clear that the Galaxy Note 10 and Note 10+ will not get the Android 13 update. However, one can still enjoy Android 13 with the help of custom ROMs. And don't forget that Samsung will still provide security updates for one more year.

(No Android 13 and only one more year of Security Updates then the Note10+ Obsolete.)

Samsung will offer four major Android OS updates to the Galaxy S22, S22 Plus, and S22 Ultra. The company also guarantees five years of security updates for all devices.

(So if you buying a phone today which one would you rather have? The soon to be Obsolete Note10+ or the S22 Ultra that is going to have Four Major OS Updates and 5 years of Security Updates?) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
9+ hours of SOT shown by you comes from three recharges.

in it, the charge before midnight drained POST midnight too and is inclusive of the SOT you posted. Likewise the usages after the following recharges also are a part of that total SOT irrespective of how it was charged.

Well, I think you did based on the previous msg you typed that I am again quoting👇:

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I think and believe others will agree too that one should post a full battery drain from 100% to a very minimum % along with a full screenshot of underyling usage chart to get a fine idea.

Umm..actually, based on my own experience to the core with Samsung flagships, I would say the S22 Ultra, even with the Snapdragon SoC, performs way lower than several predecessors purely in terms of battery endurance. Not counting any silicon lottery here though.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
No recharges on mine. 😉
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Right. Screen off time is just 47 mins, phone is continuously being used with bare minimum standby.

Let me give another example, I can watch YouTube contents using samsung browser for some 10 hours straight barely doing anything in between and it'll probably give me SOT of 10 hours. It's pretty easy to further play in the settings+uninstalling social media apps and such and the SOT will further go up, toggle the power saving and it'll add up. Does it mean my phone has really good batterylife? For me, no. It's a no because with similar settings and usage pattern, it needs to last similarly to predecessors but it lasts way less than several of them.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
It is what it is. Nothing going to change what's happening with the current and future generations of phones. They will get more power hungry and that won't change. Just like Graphics Cards and CPUs in Gaming laptops. You used to be able to game on them for hours now your lucky if you get two when just on battery. All the debating about past flagships and Whining about the current one isn't gonna change that fact. So again it is what it is.

On the part where current and future phones need to match their predecessors your living in a fantasy world.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Yes, it is what it is and its battery endurance is not that good, this is what it is and we can't change that. Unfortunately.

Fortunately this is not going to happen I would say. Because otherwise with that logic, we will have to accept upcoming more powerful smartphones not caring about batterylife at all even if it lasts just a few hours or less. We should not encourage manufacturers by supporting them when they go wrong either because they will keep repeating the same not caring about customers. These are ultra premium smartphones with more battery effecient CPUs and GPUs(as advertised by the makers) and hence should behave that way. I for one, don't play a single game, so GPU is sitting idle.

If we talk about laptops, take examples from all ultra premium laptops(not the game centric machines), their battery endurances aren't going down. They actually last longer than older ones. Latest MacBook pros, dell xps lineup, Lenovo's latest yoga series to name a few.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Griffin7296:
Yep, EXYNOS models seem to be "trash"
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
@Virgo_Guy . There are only 2 green areas. This means 2 charges. Anyway, Paul_Deemer already provided a straight 9h SoT. And by my graphic you can see it is possible too.

Now you complain that he used youtube.

Ok, that's exactly why i said battery life is completely relative. It depends on how you use and if/how much you tweak for battery to last.

The point is, battery lasts enough. And even if it doesn't for you, fast charge charges about 80% in about 30min, so you don't have to worry much about battery.

Also, Paul_Deemer, you nailed in your last post. Since those old nokia phones, battery life is getting lower because of the major increase in hardware capability and power consumption.

EDIT: Can you show your S22U battery life? Is it worse than 9h?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I'll try for the last time hope you will get it.

"First blue area" - >> phone was used and that usage is a part of that 9hr+ screen on time. Since you used it, it means the battery was charged before that - first charge.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
That's over 500 mAh constant drain. Does it ever ramp down to >100 mAh even for a second?

What are the peak mAh draws, 700, 1000 mAh?

Ridiculous.

Try running that with ambient temperatures of >96F for anything more than a few minutes.

At 100F ambient temperature things will get interesting fast. In direct sunlight/high brightness at those temperatures/current drains you can damage it especially shooting vids.

How much above ambient temperature starting 85F is ithe battery actually running when streaming vids? 6°F? 10F? Or more, which is likely...

At this rate Samsung might as well put a cooling fan in it and call it perfection🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] raul6:
Agreed. I would like future Android OS iterations to be as battery optimised as IOS. I have to use all my tinkering knowledge and resources on S22U to come close to my wife's apple 13 pro max battery life. Which she uses mercilessly all day with no changes to it from the day it arrived. For some reason Google strategists think battery life is...less important
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
You guys are a trip. (It's already happening) you in here complaining about it every day and then you say oh fortunately that not gonna happen. 🙃
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
"Enough" is subjective word. It's not enough for my usage pattern and I am not even a heavy user.

Posted here in this thread only, in comparison to S21 Ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Me:
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
FB is killing it. Keep social media apps off the phone. Access by browser only. They are security liabilities at best.

Depending on what other system apps they use their actual battery usage may be higher then reported.

Brave browser may give you better mileage*... not my favorite for streaming vids though. The Samsung browser streams vids well, install some spam blockers in it too for the Galaxy store.

*close out when done as for me it will run in the background otherwise sucking battery.

Add this settings mod:
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I know they are battery hogs. I use them and not the browser. Use pvt DNS(dns.adguard) as well, have been using for several years now.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
I wouldn't give them a physical foothold even with sand boxing let alone mental. Parasites.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
"That's not gonna happen" - >> endurance generally increases when a successor comes up. That's how technology evolves, and should be. But in some iterations it decreases, like this S22U in comparison to the predecessor as an example. Don't blindly support manufacturers when like this it takes a step back with lame excuses.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
You're getting more than 8h SoT? Is that not good for you? Well, if it isn't how about tweaking a bit, like, as other users said, remove social media. Are you on 60 Hz or 120?

You're saying a phone is BAD because it "only" have 8h screen on time??

It's funny, because my S22U seems to last longer than my S21+
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Lol. That over 8 hrs SOT is from S21 Ultra. In comparison to it, it's 5 hrs 43 mins from the S22 Ultra. All clearly mentioned.

120 Hz all. Let's not discuss about tweaking and all that and how to increase battery. Saying this because I clearly know how to tweak and do so accordingly and if a predecessor(s) is perfectly fine with the endurance having same apps installed and settings and still providing great batterylife, why a successor has to get rid of those apps and still lagging behind by quite a margin @ battery endurance(I tested uninstalling all social media apps as well). Clearly, the successor is very much underperforming @ battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Did you post your S22 Ultra 5h SoT?

EDIT: Nvm, it's in the same post, lol. So you had the exact same tweaking and usage from both phones and those are the results? Is that it?

Well, if that's the case, that's pretty weird. As i said i have a better battery life than my S21+. I know you're comparing ultras, but I would accept a similar batterybçife, not 3 hours less. Don't you think there is something more to this?

How come other users gets more than your S21U?

The answer probably is: battery life is extremely relative.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
That approaching an average of 850 mAh!

Unacceptable.

Even an average 400 mAh is high.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
No they are not. It's the exact opposite. HERE is a poll. Majority says S22 Ultra gives lower battery endurance than S21 Ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
That poll is bunk. Multiple voting is allowed. Which means (so far) it wasn't 89 people voting it has 89 votes cast (one person has voted twice BTW). There is no way to determine if the people voting actually own an S22 Ultra or the S21 Ultra.

Furthermore, 89 votes is not even close to a good sample size; and 45% is not a majority, it has to be 51% or more to get a majority.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
I said other users, like the ones that posted SoT in this thread, got more (or same) SoT than your S21U: about 8-9h.

It's not a *fact* that S21U battery last almost double S22U as you seem to show (8h vs 5h).

Even if you could prove that, for now, S21U battery lasts longer, doesn't mean the battery on S22U is crap, nor the phone itself is crap. You can't judge a phone by battery alone. It's the whole. And for the whole S22 Ultra is very, very good.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Huh? How come multiple voting affects the outcome of a poll winner? Or you are madly in love your S22U because you bought one and simply can't asccept anything negative?

Do a quick google search, read battery reviews of say 20 reviews, you will end up getting the conclusion that S21 has better endurance.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
I can't believe you just asked that question. It means that one or more people can skew the vote by voting twice.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
It's easy to see how good or bad it's doing.

How many mAh is it drawing at idle?

Using Brave browser?

Not intense applications, the basic ones you use all the time.

At idle I want to see occasional dips into the 60-90 mAh range while staying mostly in the 100-200 mAh range. Very few spikes higher than 400 mAh at idle.

A high baseline at idle is very undesirable. You can then try to track down what's causing the drain and especially frequent high current spikes ie cpu usage of the faster cores.

Everytime the fastest cores bump on they suck battery needlessly.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
Love my S22 Ultra 512gb U.S. Unlocked! I don't need Polls or Reviews to tell me the fact I Love my Phone. I have really no issues with it since day one. Why are you TRYING SO HARD to convince everyone else that they should hate their S22U because you hate yours?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯​
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Other users can be from anywhere, even out of XDA. Does not matter. What's funny is the screnshots provided by 1 or 2 S22U users backing the 22U's battery here in this thread never showed the full battery charts top to bottom even for once😷.

I already proved it and experienced regularly. So did other people(visit samsung community, reddit, independant reviews etc, google is your friend).
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
The batterylife of this phone is worse than many predecessors, that's my whole point. You do not have any issues, that's well and good. Others may have, like me.

Neither I love a phone nor I hate. So it gives me the opportunity to experience a device and look at both its pros and cons .
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Lol no way. Looks lile you don't understand multiple vote scenarios.

People can change the vote later since Samsung phones need to settle as per many. So gave them that option. 2ndly, people may have two opinions, again based on their own experience over time.

Either way, it simply doesn't hurt the winning poll EOD that too by quite a margin.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Changing your vote is NOT multiple voting. Multiple voting is when you can vote more than once or make more than one selection per question.

How can someone say that he or she is getting worse battery life than the S21U AND better battery life than the S21U AT THE SAME TIME? Or be able to say I'm not sure AND say I'm getting better AT THE SAME TIME?

It is the fact that you allowed voters to make up to TWO selections. That is what multiple voting means.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
89 is a good number as compared to just the 2/3 here in this thread. The same 2/3 people constantly backing the 22U's battery saying it has better batterylife here in this thread, do NOT have any proof that they owned the S21U in the first place. Not a single screenshot of S21's battery usage. Can't count 0 as an opinion, let alone considering as a decisive element. It's me who showed full screenshots of both the batteries, not those 2/3 backing the 22U's battery.

It's not a parliamentary voting poll, it's a poll to see the winning poll only. As such, 45% alone amongst 4, is a good majority since the rest are way less individually.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Well, I showed and Paul_Deemer did too. Mine has a tiny charging due to connecting to a PC. Paul's doesn't. And yet you rejected because he was using youtube. Wtf?

Do you really think that we can't get abojt 8-9h?

No you didn't. You showed 2 charts with your usage. We don't know the conditions of either. And again you miss my point. Considering your information is true for ALL S21U and S22U in any conditions (which isn't, necessarily), the S22U has better specs than S21U which makes it consume more energy and a more powerful phone.

Let me put it this way. If you had a phone that is perfect for you, no lag, the best camera you ever saw, etc, but with a SoT of about 7-8h would you say it is crap?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Ok, now you're just being ridiculous. We are on internet, no one will prove anything. I could get a google picture or just edit to 12 SoT and that's it. We proved as much as you by posting screenshots.

I can't show my S21+ SS because i sold it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
1. You can make two choices there. So multiple choices of two, not more than that.

2. Only an idiot will vote for "more than S21U" and "worse than S21U" at the same time. It's a such a common sense. I'm bamboozled that you could not get anything better to criticise.

From that poll, I took the screenshot of lower than S21U and higher than S22U choices(as attached). Not a single person clicked on both of these, because such an idiot doesn't, will not and cannot exist. 🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
You posted a screenshot with zero underlying usage chart that too with 3 battery recharges providing 9 hr batterylife @ SOT. And Paul_Deemer constantly used the phone with no standby usage to show how great the SOT is and again with no underlying usage chart ..

If you think that's the same as two distinctive screenshots with underying usages having full screenshots till the last app used, that's your problem that you need to fix.

Or you never had an S21U in the first place.

Come up with healthy criticism next time with convincing data. Until then, I'm happily out.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
One can argue the validity of this poll with the fact that there are trolls trying very hard to make anything Samsung related look bad, as we've seen in this. And the other way around

I never said I had a S21U. I said I had a S21+ (exynos), that lastet just fine but less than my S22U.

Why do you want to see what apps were running? He posted 8+ hours.pf SoT and that's what we are discussing. OBVIOUSLY the S22U can last more than 5h. If yours is lasting that few you should tweak it.

You are saying a phone is bad just because YOURS isn't lasting more than 5h. That's nonsense.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
From legitimate complaints to extreme trolling and now a steady stream of inane viewpoints. This thread needs to wither and die.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
More like it needs to be dragged out, shot, hung, and burned at the stake.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] m0tyrider:
This phone is ****.

Had a overall better experience with my Poco X3 NFC...and that phones dialer doesn't even let me answer calls.

Poor form Samsung.

For what these cost, they are a massive rip off.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Badger50:
Well my friends, after 39 days, 19 pages, 371 posts, and numerous "Snarky" and sometimes rude and inappropriate comments, I think there is only one thing left to do......

​

Cheers and thanks to all for your comments.

-Regards: Badger50
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
I have had the phone for a couple of months now and no, I don't "think the S22 Ultra is a really bad phone".
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
Besides XDA users are sounding off on Reddit and Samsung Members as well. I'm beyond convinced many problems are caused by Android 12's sloppy integration with OneUl 4.0/4.1. We see users on S21 Ultra's who've had no issues until they updated to Android 12 OneUI 4.0. A number of those who've updated have gone back or want to go back to Android 11 OneUI 3.1. In S10 forums we see the same scenario playing out as they recently received the update. Since S22 users don't have that option they can't compare or validate the differences. Even worse we see updating Android 12 may fix an issue but creates new issues. Android 12 has been a problem child on other brands well before Samsung introduced it on the S22.

Battery issues are common on most brands depending on a certain device or sustained usage. Power users complain the most but we see others who don't go beyond normal usage like web browsing, a few apps, light gaming or watching videos who are disappointed they're not getting a full day on a charge or poor SoT.

It's also pretty obvious the Exynos SoC has more problems in general than the Snapdragon but both have concerns. What's unusual is Samsung allowing the defective devices to be released to the public. Sorry, I'm not buying their Quality Control isn't aware a much higher than average number of users are being affected. Then we read many users have to implement a ton of tweaks just to achieve a stable platform.

Will future updates get things squared away? We'll see but to date it's pretty choppy. You can’t defend a device in the $1,100 to $1,500 USD price range being fundamentally flawed for so many users. Samsung can't defend all the pre-release touts over specs that didn't materialize and getting booted off Geekbench was a first for any smartphone brand. Can others state with confidence the S22 Ultra is a bad device? Absolutely!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] WZDISMINE:
I have Exynos 512/12gb ram. Perfect.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] cheeky47:
Definitely sounds like an issue with your device.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
I feel for those that are having problems. Mine has been rock solid and outperforms my S20+ in all aspects.

Funny though how the most vociferous detractors dont even have first hand experience with the device.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] gettinwicked:
I don't have any issues with the phone, minus battery life. It's smooth, no lag or jitters, I like it. I've had pixels for years, even the pixel 6 pro, and this phone is way better than the latter. The p6p had tons of problems at launch. And 3 months in most were still present. I got this phone and could find nothing wrong.

Honestly, anyone having issues, it's likely android 12. It's just a mess imo. My pixel 4xl ran great until 12 came out. I would have downgraded if I could have. HOPEFULLY, android 13 will fix that BS android.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DinarQ8:
If you get 6.5 hours SOT and you are not happy!!, I hardly get 5 hours SOT and I am very happy with the phone

But keep in mind that I get 5 hours SOT on a single charge every 24 hours, which is pretty good for me
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Spicy Pringle:
I upgraded my phone from a 2020 Mi 10 Ultra (SD865) to the S22U Exynos. So far I think it feels more like a side grade at best.

I'm talking about everyday use, I don't game
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dia_naji:
It's lottery at this point. 10 of my friends all purchased s22 ultra 512 GB. Some snapdragon and some exoyns. Out of the 10 people only 4 of them had issues. 3 Exy and 1 Snp. I myself can't really complain since I have perfect device in my eyes
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
I don't get it. This is mine without debloat
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
To be honest, Mi devices run much smoother than all Android devices just lacks certain hardware in my opinion. I just can't pay the price tag to have 1080p selfie video in a flagship.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
I can get 9+ hours of SOT in a total runtime of over 24+ hours too using S22 Ultra if I want to. That's not my point.

Exactly on similar settings and usage patterns, the S21 Ultra turned out to be a clear winner in battery endurance when I tested and re-tested . That's my whole point my friend.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
S22 ultra is a beast with 10hrs SOT! Just wish I could get a better USB multiport adapter/docking station for DEX mode that took advantage of all the capabilities of the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] derausgewanderte:
The question will end in a worm hole ;)

I have a love-hate relationship with mine.

cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
That's a small sampling but if 40% of users are having issues that's pathetic and far below industry standards.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
So one has to buy and use a product to know for certain it has numerous defects? One of the reasons people of all stripes participate in these forums is to avoid costly mistakes.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
Right on cue.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
non sequitur
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] stszf9124:
I started using galaxy s series since galaxy S5 ,except S21, SD801 exynos7420 8890 8895 9810 9820 SD865 8G1, tbh,the s22u disappoints me the most, it heats up even typing in the chat, and gots laggy switching amoung apps,my galaxy s10+ is the best for fluency and Camera but only 60Hz
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Sleepycat3:
8.5 screen on time if I use the phone non-stop. For mixed use, I get almost 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DinarQ8:
Sure if you are only on WiFi
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DinarQ8:
2 days with single charge!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
I use both. I have ****ty wifi at work and I visit a park nearly everyday after work. Im on wifi less than half the time in using the device. I do use 4g when 5g isn't needed because it sucks battery fast. I only use 5g to download large files.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Guyinlaca:
Everyone I know with the Snapdragon variant, myself included, find the phone to be smooth and reliable. Most of the complaints seem to be from the Exynos variant. I know it's cliché, but everything just works on the Snapdragon. After using a Pixel 6 Pro with similar chipset to the Exynos, I can tell you that the S22 Ultra is much more stable and has much better reception.