[Networking] jon-:
So you did Andy, sorry I didn't link you to the earlier post. I will continue playing with the ASA today (as you might have guessed I'm not that up to speed with Cisco) and let you know if I get anything.

FWIW here is the drop out when it was failing at phase 1, i don't have the latest log to hand

IP = , Error: Unable to remove PeerTblEntry
IP = , Removing peer from peer table failed, no match!
IP = , sending delete/delete with reason message
IP = , IKE SA MM:bccde876 terminating: flags 0x01000002, refcnt 0, tuncnt 0
IP = , IKE MM Responder FSM error history (struct &0xd888df20) <state>, <event>: MM_DONE, EV_ERROR-->MM_WAIT_MSG3, EV_TIMEOUT-->MM_WAIT_MSG3, NullEvent-->MM_SND_MSG2, EV_SND_MSG-->MM_SND_MSG2, EV_START_TMR-->MM_SND_MSG2, EV_RESEND_MSG-->MM_WAIT_MSG3, EV_TIMEOUT-->MM_WAIT_MSG3, NullEvent
IP = , IKE_DECODE RESENDING Message (msgid=1100200) with payloads : HDR + UNKNOWN (218), *** ERROR *** + NONE (0) total length : 128
IP = , IKE_DECODE RESENDING Message (msgid=1100200) with payloads : HDR + UNKNOWN (218), *** ERROR *** + NONE (0) total length : 128
IP = , IKE_DECODE RESENDING Message (msgid=1100200) with payloads : HDR + UNKNOWN (218), *** ERROR *** + NONE (0) total length : 128
IP = , IKE_DECODE SENDING Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + SA (1) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 124
IP = , constructing Fragmentation VID + extended capabilities payload
IP = , constructing NAT-Traversal VID ver 02 payload
IP = , constructing ISAKMP SA payload
IP = , IKE SA Proposal # 1, Transform # 8 acceptable Matches global IKE entry # 3
IP = , processing IKE SA payload
IP = , Received NAT-Traversal ver 02 VID
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , Received Fragmentation VID
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , Oakley proposal is acceptable
IP = , processing SA payload
IP = , IKE_DECODE RECEIVED Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + SA (1) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 544
IP = , Received encrypted packet with no matching SA, dropping
Ignoring msg to mark SA with dsID 151552 dead because SA deleted
IP = , IKE_DECODE SENDING Message (msgid=bbb6340d) with payloads : HDR + HASH (8) + DELETE (12) + NONE (0) total length : 76
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing qm hash payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing IKE delete payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing blank hash payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , sending delete/delete with reason message
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , IKE SA MM:78a1831c terminating: flags 0x01000002, refcnt 0, tuncnt 0
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , IKE SA MM:78a1831c rcv'd Terminate: state MM_ACTIVE flags 0x00000042, refcnt 1, tuncnt 0
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Removing peer from correlator table failed, no match!
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , sending delete/delete with reason message
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , IKE QM Responder FSM error history (struct &0xd876e128) <state>, <event>: QM_DONE, EV_ERROR-->QM_BLD_MSG2, EV_NEGO_SA-->QM_BLD_MSG2, EV_IS_REKEY-->QM_BLD_MSG2, EV_CONFIRM_SA-->QM_BLD_MSG2, EV_PROC_MSG-->QM_BLD_MSG2, EV_HASH_OK-->QM_BLD_MSG2, NullEvent-->QM_BLD_MSG2, EV_COMP_HASH
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , QM FSM error (P2 struct &0xd876e128, mess id 0x713438aa)!
IP = , IKE_DECODE SENDING Message (msgid=c1a6b7b3) with payloads : HDR + HASH (8) + NOTIFY (11) + NONE (0) total length : 80
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing qm hash payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing ipsec notify payload for msg id 713438aa
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing blank hash payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , sending notify message
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , All IPSec SA proposals found unacceptable!
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing IPSec SA payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , IKE Remote Peer configured for crypto map: outside-new_dyn_map
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Selecting only UDP-Encapsulated-Tunnel and UDP-Encapsulated-Transport modes defined by NAT-Traversal
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Selecting only UDP-Encapsulated-Tunnel and UDP-Encapsulated-Transport modes defined by NAT-Traversal
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Static Crypto Map check, map = outside-new_map, seq = 20, ACL does not match proxy IDs src: dst:213.122.163.115
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Static Crypto Map check, checking map = outside-new_map, seq = 20...
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , QM IsRekeyed old sa not found by addr
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing NAT-Original-Address payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , L2TP/IPSec session detected.
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Received local Proxy Host data in ID Payload: Address 213.122.163.115, Protocol 17, Port 1701
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , ID_IPV4_ADDR ID received
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing ID payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Received remote Proxy Host FQDN in ID Payload: Host Name: HTC70 Address , Protocol 17, Port 1701
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , ID_FQDN ID received, len 5
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing ID payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing nonce payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing SA payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing hash payload
IP = , IKE_DECODE RECEIVED Message (msgid=713438aa) with payloads : HDR + HASH (8) + SA (1) + NONCE (10) + ID (5) + ID (5) + NAT-OA (131) + NONE (0) total length : 293
IP = , IKE Responder starting QM: msg id = 713438aa
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Starting P1 rekey timer: 21600 seconds.
IP = , Keep-alives configured on but peer does not support keep-alives (type = None)
IP = , Keep-alive type for this connection: None
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , PHASE 1 COMPLETED
IP = , IKE_DECODE SENDING Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + ID (5) + HASH (8) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 96
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing dpd vid payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Computing hash for ISAKMP
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing hash payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , constructing ID payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Freeing previously allocated memory for authorization-dn-attributes
IP = , Connection landed on tunnel_group DefaultRAGroup
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Automatic NAT Detection Status: Remote end IS behind a NAT device This end is NOT behind a NAT device
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Computing hash for ISAKMP
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing hash payload
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , ID_FQDN ID received, len 5
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , processing ID payload
IP = , IKE_DECODE RECEIVED Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + ID (5) + HASH (8) + NONE (0) total length : 61
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , P1 Retransmit msg dispatched to MM FSM
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Duplicate Phase 1 packet detected. Retransmitting last packet.
IP = , IKE_DECODE SENDING Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + KE (4) + NONCE (10) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NAT-D (130) + NAT-D (130) + NONE (0) total length : 296
Group = DefaultRAGroup, IP = , Generating keys for Responder...
IP = , Connection landed on tunnel_group DefaultRAGroup
IP = , computing NAT Discovery hash
IP = , constructing NAT-Discovery payload
IP = , computing NAT Discovery hash
IP = , constructing NAT-Discovery payload
IP = , Send Altiga/Cisco VPN3000/Cisco ASA GW VID
IP = , constructing VID payload
IP = , Constructing ASA spoofing IOS Vendor ID payload (version: 1.0.0, capabilities: 20000001)
IP = , Send IOS VID
IP = , constructing xauth V6 VID payload
IP = , constructing Cisco Unity VID payload
IP = , constructing nonce payload
IP = , constructing ke payload
IP = , computing NAT Discovery hash
IP = , processing NAT-Discovery payload
IP = , computing NAT Discovery hash
IP = , processing NAT-Discovery payload
IP = , processing nonce payload
IP = , processing ISA_KE payload
IP = , processing ke payload
IP = , IKE_DECODE RECEIVED Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + KE (4) + NONCE (10) + NAT-D (130) + NAT-D (130) + NONE (0) total length : 224
IP = , IKE_DECODE RESENDING Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + SA (1) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 124
IP = , P1 Retransmit msg dispatched to MM FSM
IP = , Duplicate Phase 1 packet detected. Retransmitting last packet.
IP = , IKE_DECODE RESENDING Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + SA (1) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 124
IP = , P1 Retransmit msg dispatched to MM FSM
IP = , Duplicate Phase 1 packet detected. Retransmitting last packet.
IP = , IKE_DECODE SENDING Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + SA (1) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 124
IP = , constructing Fragmentation VID + extended capabilities payload
IP = , constructing NAT-Traversal VID ver 02 payload
IP = , constructing ISAKMP SA payload
IP = , IKE SA Proposal # 1, Transform # 8 acceptable Matches global IKE entry # 3
IP = , processing IKE SA payload
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , Received NAT-Traversal ver 02 VID
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , Received Fragmentation VID
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , processing VID payload
IP = , Oakley proposal is acceptable
IP = , processing SA payload
IP = , IKE_DECODE RECEIVED Message (msgid=0) with payloads : HDR + SA (1) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + VENDOR (13) + NONE (0) total length : 564

Thank you for your help thus far Andy.

ETA - I removed the timestamp to get within char limit, the oldest (first) message is at the bottom, newest (last) at top