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[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Unfortunately, I think it has more to do with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1...I know someone who returned an Oppo Find X5 Pro with the same chipset because of heating and battery issues, and there are plenty of similar cases with the Samsung S22 lineup.

I really wish they sold the Dimensity9000 version, but "westerners" like brand names too much... 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♂️

The Huawei P30 Pro is the best phone I ever owned, and the Kirin 980 processor to this day (even though it's 3 years old) doesn't stutter, even on a phone full of apps, and doing lots of multitasking...
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Another issue I'm having (wonder if anyone else has experienced anything similar): When using BT earbuds, sometimes when I get a call, audio is routed through the phone's speaker even though the earbuds are selected in the call screen output menu. Switching to phone speaker/speakerphone and back to BT doesn't fix it. Not does hanging up, disconnecting from the earbuds, connecting again and calling again. The only thing that seems to solve the issue is rebooting the phone...
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
Sorry, actually I meant battery saver, not data saver. Switch it on, you will surely see some changes.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Thanks!

I'll definitely give it a try because...this is BAD.... 🤦‍♂️
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
have you tried?? i am getting a 9-10 hours SOT if i don't use the camera and 6-7 if i use the camera
[Vivo X80 Pro] chilavert_gr:
When my phone is on, AOD opens to lock screen every some minutes. Does anybody know, what makes the display opens? What means the top right icon?
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Unfortunately, it limits too many background services I rely on the get my notifications. It would be nice if it offered the option to choose which apps we want to remain active in this mode...
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
I think this may have to do with either:

- Wake screen for notifications (I've disabled it), or:

- “Show fingerprint icon on off screen" was causing a lot of screen wakeups for me too

The icon on the top right is for your Vivo user account I think
[Vivo X80 Pro] chilavert_gr:
Disabling the -wake screen for notifications fixed the problem.

Thx m8
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
vivo really needs to improve fun touch o.s😑😑
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
I know...

There's a lot of idle battery drain too. Although maybe not all of it is from Funtouch; Android isn't all that great at power management either...

Last night I left it in flight mode (so, no celular or wifi) + battery saver and it still dropped from 89% to 80% in 5h. I just realized flight mode didn't disable Bluetooth, so I'll try that too the next time.

Battery Guru points at Google Photos as the main culprit behind wakelocs

and GSAM battery monitor displays the following for background CPU usage:

On other phones I've had, I could enable "smart power management" for apps and still get my notifications, but on this one, I'm already missing some notifications on Telegram with unrestricted background usage, so...🤦‍♂️

I get the impression Vivo is well aware of the mediocre battery life and had opted for an excessively aggressive power management approach that fails in its purpose while at the same time causing apps to lose functionality. 🤦‍♂️🤣

I'll definitely be restricting Photos' usage though...
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
9% at night!!!😱😱. That's too much battery drain. In my case it will be maximum 3-4% drain at night.

Till now i am satisfied with the battery backup.

Turn off back up in google photos, I always do that, and turns on once in a while to back up everything.

Maybe they will provide good updates to optimize battery in the future

hope they take care of their latest flagship😅
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
First week with my X80 pro I'm still on vacation so cannot really compare battery life now to my typing usage.

With ambient temperatures around 32-35°C, average 20-30 photos and 2 videos per day, poor wifi and 4g, I'm getting around 5 hrs SOT. Overnight drop is 3-4% with wifi and data off.
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
That's looks normal. You will definitely get 9-10 hrs sot if you don't use the camera and in 60hz. When I used the camera frequently in a day, I got 6-7 hours sot.
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
I expect to get some 7 hrs with my typical usage once back from vacation. That is home/work, with mostly on wifi or on good 4g connection.

Browsing reddit, xda, Samsung browser, some Whatsapp and Viber..
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
You will surely get more than 7 hours sot bro if just for browsing and all😁
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
Fingers crossed

Will report in few days when back home
[Vivo X80 Pro] lemonade747:
Man, 9% per night for 5 hours is too much. I can see that Android system contributed the most to the battery drain and this is not normal. I think the reason behind this is bad software optimization. I guess for now I'll stick with my S22U since the battery just dropped 2% for 6-hour night, and I can easily get 7-8 SoT with 30% left, no heating no lag so far. Not sure if Vivo is gonna fix those issues soon or not, but why they released a phone still in the beta state with a lot of problems. That's not right.

P/s: Forgot to mention that my S22U also had heating and lagging issue at the time it's officially released. After 2 months with 3-4 updates then it's better everyday, so I guess Vivo also needs time to fix those bugs.
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
every day is it same about that 9% loss?

aaha . yeah lets hope for the best. hope vivo brings more battery optimizations.
[Vivo X80 Pro] PanNet:
Yea, I've got the same issue. Just cannot open Samsung account.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Yeah, I'm hoping they will improve this too...

Vivo isn't the only company guilty of releasing flagships that feel like they're still in beta stage (Samsung also does it all the time), but it's odd they did it when at the same time making such an effort to break into the Western market (a lot of marketing, sponsoring the Spanish and Portuguese football leagues, etc). I guess most of their efforts went to Origin OS and Dimensity and the Funtouch/SD version was rushed.

But all the same.... Bad choices like this can make buyers stay away from the brand...
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
BTW, anyone else having issues with BT music streaming?

Every now and then when playing music from Spotify into a BT speaker, the audio stops but Spotify days it's still playing. The only thing that seems to work is force closing Spotty, forgetting and repairing the BT device and opening SF again.

Also, does anyone know how to get "proper", text-based notifications on the lock screen? I've played with all the settings (show content/sensitive content, etc) and all I get are these tiny icons.

It would also be nice to have a Spotify/music player widget on the lock screen so I can pause or skip track without having to unlock the screen and drag down the notification panel. Had anyone found a way to do this?

Thanks a ton in advance!
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
BT streaming, will try today and report back.

Concerning notifications, try to enable these options as per attached screenshots (under notifications and under privacy as well). It works for me.
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
@wimbawaya

Forgot to quote you
[Vivo X80 Pro] ZarW:
Battery drain over night tip: use the automatic turn off and on function for the phone - settings/shortcuts. Turn off time 24:00, turn on time 5:45. Your battery will say thank you.

Battery drain tip: close all your background applications to save energy.

Spotify and other music apps: turn off energy saving option and allow background usage - switching off your screen should then work while listening to music via BT.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Thanks! 👍

Unfortunately, that didn't work. So I set them all to "no notifications", rebooted the phone, set them as they were before (the same as in your screenshots), rebooted and... Still nothing.

This might be more of an Android thing though, since it happened on my P30 Pro after factory resetting and updating to the latest EMUI. And persisted even after factory resetting again. So I'm thinking this is either an Android thing, or some glitch during the "restore data" process. I know it's preferable not to have Android restore data and settings but I use A LOT of apps and it's convenient for it to remember their settings so I don't have to tinker with them one by one. It's time consuming as hell and I have a lot of work lately...

Will keep searching, see what I can find...(hoping the solution isn't a factory reset). 🤞
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Thanks for the tips!

Unfortunately, the power on/off option isn't something I feel comfortable doing (same with airplane mode): I once missed an important call (family emergency) so now I disable data and wifi and leave it in Do not Disturb mode so that calls from favourite contacts come through.

Restricting Google Photos' background power usage has helped a lot though. Lately I've been getting progressively more SoT.

The day before yesterday I got 5h15m SoT (100% ↘️ 5%), and that was with 2h30m of Google Maps navigation.

And yesterday, 5h30 SoT from 100 to 20%.

About Spotify, it has unrestricted background power usage enabled so... Who knows.... Although I suspect it's more of a Bluetooth thing. I'll do some more testing and see what I can figure out
[Vivo X80 Pro] chilavert_gr:
I'm trying to use battery guru without root. So I tried LADB to grand permissions, but I can't connect. Can someone help me with this?

Sorry for the off-topic
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
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Where did you get stuck? Have you activated developer options?

If so, when you plug your phone to your PC you should get a prompt on your phone asking you if you want to allow that device for debugging. In my case, it didn't pop up, I had to check my notifications (it was there, it just didn't pop up) and tap on it. Same goes for notifications for Bluetooth pairing, they don't appear in a pop-up. To avoid this happening in the future, long-tap on the notification, then on the "settings" icon on the top right corner of the notification box, the look for the option "Pop on screen" and enable it.

I hope this helps! If not, don't hesitate to ask!
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
Indeed👍 This is on wifi only
[Vivo X80 Pro] kurokokk:
aaha.OK. OK. I also haven't tried it on mobile data yet.😶‍🌫️😁
[Vivo X80 Pro] MtiusыDR:
It looks like I got a brick... When transmitting data through the vivo proprietary application, the smartphone froze and the screen went out. After that, he did not respond to any manipulations. Is there anything else you can do or just put it on the shelf? Chinese version, on OriginOS
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
New trial update:
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
How to apply for trial updates?
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Top right corner click on it.

Then you'll see trial updates.
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
Strange.. can see it if I search settings for 'trial' , but it is actually hidden under system update..
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
You lack this option for some reason.

What version you have?
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
Latest stable Funtouch

Maybe it's region dependent or perhaps I should opt-in somewhere in settings

I enabled 'send usage and diagnostic information ', but no changes
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Try live chat with vivo maybe they can help.

But as far as i remember, it was always there.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Looks promising!

All of the things it (supposedly) addresses area things I've actually been having problems with: apps randomly crashing for no reason, Bluetooth connection losses...

They don't mention battery life though and lately I've noticed something a little alarming:

Vivo services are causing that much background battery drain? Their power management is whack...

What's concerning is that the main subprocesses involved are ambient sensor, accelerometer and proximity sensor which shouldn't be doing squat in the background because I have "raise to wake" and "tap screen to wake" disabled. 🤷‍♂️

And 3 & 1/2 background CPU usage since I last unplugged the phone from the charger? That sounds excessive to the point of the kind of fishy days collection other Chinese manufacturers have been involved in in the past. Either that, or the worst power management implementation I've ever seen on en Android phone...

My battery life seemed to be improving but it's gotten worse again the last two days. Last night battery level dropped by 8% with (wait for it...) ✈️ mode on, Bluetooth off and battery saver mode on. 8%!

Seeing the Vivo services background drain, I really think a lot of this could be addressed with software fixes... I really hope they get their $#!7 together because I'm this close to returning the damn thing. If it weren't for the AMAZING pics I definitely would have returned it already but...DAMN! 🤣

I think I'll opt for the "beta" versions and see how that pans out
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
I use the GMS battery to monitor the battery usage, and at times it seems to indicate different finding than what vivo battery usage have.

I wonder why there is this discrepancy between those two, but i hope vivo can really resolve it.

So far testing the new update and i'll update soon.
[Vivo X80 Pro] vratnik:
1. Today morning the notification ringtone changed itself to some long melody. It started playing something i didn't recognize, then I noticed the ringtone for notifications was set to something else.

2. Accessibility agents of apps are being disabled regularly. Apps are in "don't restrict power usage" under Battery-background something management.

3. There is another battery management of apps, under settings - apps - <app name> - battery - unrestricted which makes no effect so far. Unnecessary duplicate confusing menu.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Well so far I haven't seen much of an improvement to be honest, so I'm a little bit disappointed by the battery life and it's really getting annoying a little bit.

Hopefully the next update or updates will bring better battery life
[Vivo X80 Pro] ZarW:
Contacts & Favorites issues fixed

The Origin OS Update from last week fixed the issue with the favorites and missing contacts. All contacts are listed and my favorites list is always complete without missing anyone.
[Vivo X80 Pro] ZarW:
New issue - phone call with usb-c adapter and earphones: my dialog partner complains about hearing himself

Does anyone has the same issue when having a phone call while using a usb-c adapter and earphones? I used the usb-c adapter with several other phones and there was no issue like that. I do not have any echo issues, only my dialog partners. Furthermore, I would like to have the opportunity to reduce the volume further - my earphones (with usb-c adapter) make my ears explode.

I really appreciate your tips condisering the echo for my dialog partner and the volume issue.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haroon2015:
Hi, i am facing a issue with my device,

In sleepmode my data (internet) does not work often, when i wake my device i have to toggle data button for work my internet,

please give solution
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
That ViVo service could very well be something about collecting 'data'.

That's why it's triggered by all possible sensor that would sense that you are using the device in some way, even if it's not moving and laying flat on it's back. They got any interaction with the device covered with those 3 sensors.

Very very fishy, especially since it's not just stealing data but also stealing lots of batterypower in the process.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Noticed some other weird bugs:

The phone would sometimes open the lock screen as if I touched it without actually touching it, waking the phone and canceling the deep sleep mode.

There are some annoying lags when switching between apps at times, it's probably due to bad LTPO3 implantation.

Battery is really the biggest issue here, it sometimes last 4.5hr before going to 25% battery, sometimes 5hr, it's very not consist despite that I use the phone the same way.

Sometimes when listening to music, specially via Bluetooth, and I open the phone, I noticed there is a one-second hitch and as a result the sound cutoff for a second, and it returns, it can be very annoying.

Last but not least.... How there are NO battery preserve health options here? Charge to 80? Shorten the charge cycle? Every phone has it, but not the Vivo.

So far the X80 Pro is a great phone with big potential but buggy software and poor battery life, have to say i'm considering the ROG6 phone due to the battery mainly.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
I'm just speculating here, don't want to throw around unfounded accusations either.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
I am just speculating aswell but it's still a possibillity. Especially with poor Vivo service and hardly answering any questions it's not completely logical that people will speculate.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Same boat it seems, hehe

Samsung phones tend to be good for the first months, and then the updates gradually screw it up.

I miss Huawei so much, they are the only company that had the less issue with the best camera and battery life, i wish they could re-release the Mate 20 X with today's hardware.

I think i'll buy the Rog6 as it seems to have the best speed with awesome battery life, great screen ,great speakers and OK cameras...

I leave the Vivo x80 Pro as a backup device and i'll monitor if it improves or if Vivo improve the software.

I'll probably buy the Xiaomi Ultra 13 or 13 Pro if it ticks all the right boxes next year.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
I'll probably purchase the Asus Rog6 despite the price, and keep the vivo for testing their software if it ever improves...

At least until the next gen will come out, and we'll see if Samsung can actually make a phone that won't eat itself in terms of battery drain, or Xiaomi will nail it with the 13 series.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
Oh, as for reviewers ...

Don't believe the Hype !

They don't run into all the 'smaller' issues as they simply don't really USE the devices.

Sure, they will put their sim in, use a sandbox account, download some apps and make some calls but do you really think they put their Life on that device that was 'donated' ?????

No Way .... They all have an Iphone or something like a Pixel to run their private life and have all their real email on that device. The same goes for banking apps, crypto, private social media, etc etc etc.

We all know how long it will take to setup a new device to your liking. All your apps, icon placement, passwords, documents, galleries, etc etc. This can take upto days before it's just like you want it.

Do you honestly think these reviewers will go through that every other week with a new device ?

Not to mention that some devices could be compromised so a big Youtuber will never ever take that Risk.

This way they simply don't notice certain things as a big part of the lifting is done by this trusted device.

That's why NOBODY and i mean NOBODY (of the big reviewers) mentioned anything about Notification issues for instance. They also seemed to have a decent or average batterylife .. Again, you get that when you have a minimum of apps installed and you only use the camera basicly along with some benchmarks and generic apps.

Just like testriding a car from the dealership, pretty much everything will be fine, and only bigger things that you don't like will be noticed. It requires months of driving to really find the smaller things that could hamper your experience and simply require longer use. For example poor defrosting will not be noticed 50% of the time in countries that have an actual winter.

Just like somebody who doesn''t use Facebook won't care about batterydrain of that app as they are not using it, while to the other it matters.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
We will have to see.

It's funny to see people all hailing Huawei but they seem to forget that Huawei also made weird decisions.

Their flagships became crazy expensive, they dared to release them with a single speaker for a long time.

Even the big storage versions came out with just 8GB and let's not forrget the beautifull waterfall edges that proved to be a pain in regular use.

It wasn't all Hunky Dory with Huawei neither.

But it's a surething that they did influence the other and would keep them on their toes. I also wish they would still participate and prevent the others from snoozing.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Huawei wasn't perfect for sure but still they made the best phone that had almost all, the Mate 20 X 4G.

It's hard to find a true replacement for that, the ROG comes close minus the camera system, and the Zenphone is just too small.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
AND Xiaomi will actually sell their 13 series globally...
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
That's the plan... they're testing the water with the 12 Ultra.

They have to upgrade all camera, specially selfie 1080p to 4K, everyone does that already.

I just hope SD8Gen2 will be MUCH better than 1+ or Gen1.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
Sure, but 13 series doesn't mean every single device.

Right now they sell several 12 series devices but the ones we want they don't sell.

The Mi 10 ultra wasn't global, the 11 ultra wasn't sold globally in all regions and the 12Sultra suffers the same fate.

Also Global versions are often limited in color versions and they usually don't offer the big storage variant, just like now the Find X5 pro, 12 series Xiaomi, Vivo X80, and the OnePlus 10 Pro ALL come with a max of 256GB ...... While they are all sold in china in 512GB variants aswell.

I have to give it to Apple, they ALWAYS sell all their colors, all variants and storage versions anywhere and they can be bought right after release. Sometimes a color is added after a period of time but your not limited in some regions like with all the Chinese brands.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
I can answer that for you, it won't be. Won't be much better. Sure, it will be faster and a bit more efficient eventhough the latter probably won't really be noticed by a big margin.

How do i know this ?? Simple logic ...

Just look back the past 5 years and see how the SD's have evolved, you can't expect them to make a huge leap, especially not with the current and previous 2 generations have suffered more and more from heat which wasn't an issue 3-4+ years ago.

It's just wishfull thinking and naive to think they will find a magic solution and make a huge leap. Also, they like to 'milk' tech in a slow pace to make the most $$$ out of it.

So yeah, don't expect too much. The jumps are just incremental and in daily use not always noticeable.

I personally think people care about features, things that DO improve daily operation.

Just like extreme long battery usage, great speakers, comfortable design, out of the box fast charging, and most importantly GREAT software.

This year it's very evident that Android has been suffering with the latter.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Yeah, SD really lacks power efficiency, no wonder why Kirin were always great( at least from 960).

That's why big battery with the right cooling is so mandatory these days, shame that most of the games and apps works the best only with SD.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Dutch-Vivo:
It makes sense that they focus on SD as it's like 90+% of their market. Especially the group of hardcore gamers that run a gaming phone or flagship.

It's not cost effective to tailor their games/apps to that very small group (percentagewise) of mediatek or Exynos users.

SD can never obtain the optimisation like Apple because they create generic soc's and do not make a soc like Apple does where the platform and remaining hardware are carefully selected.

Also they move at a rapid pace so when a soc comes out they are working on the new one already. Smartphone makers, Google Android nor Qualcomm really has the time to perfect and finetune things accordingly. The timeframe between releases is just too small with the resources and people available.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
That's the biggest issue and the biggest flaw of android, on top of that, the update policy differs from one company to the other, so it makes a big fragmentation in the android market.

Kirin is one of the best example of high optimized silicon, and even that had flaws.

I'll probably buy the ROG6 tomorrow mainly for my it's battery, speakers and the whole package, will let you know.