yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch HD Accessories] JanSchotsmans:
Well, on the headphones that come with the HD, there are 2 buttons with which you can do commands, maybe thats what he means.
[Touch HD Accessories] vangrieg:
He is talking specifically about RC E100.

Which 2 buttons are you talking about? I have only one, which allows to hang up/pick up or dial last number. This is standard for most phones, although usually there's also a volume control.
[Touch HD Accessories] jaycee1981:
I'm talking about a remote control as headset,which has play/pause button as well. Yeah, rc e100 was the best for diamond & pro. I have a vnmoda headset sppecially iphone,but it compatible with hd. I mean i can recieve calls,but can not play/pause music.
[Touch HD Accessories] Candy-men:
Why is the RC E100 not compatible with the HD? Are there specific Drivers in the Diamond ROM? The HD also has a ExtUSB Port.... so it should work. Or may I be wrong?:confused:
[Touch HD Accessories] oraclexl:
Just stumbled upon this thread and darnnnn.

The ultimate (and elemental) accessoiry for the HD has got to be a remote control headset.

I decided to buy the RC E100 from a dutch website.

It clearly states that the accessoiry is tested with and proven to function with the Touch HD.

I tried connecting it and obviously the info on the site is wrong.

Utterly disappointed I would like to know where I can find a statement saying it isn't compatible.

Can anyone help me with that?
[Touch HD Accessories] jaycee1981:
Yeah, i have managed to try the rc e100 with my HD, and it says not compatible device and remove from usb port. I don't understand either
[Touch HD Accessories] vangrieg:
There is audio in the extUSB jack on HD
[Touch HD Accessories] cojones:
excuse my ignorance, and i'm anticipating the tut tut noises from everyone, but would the iPhone or iPhone compatible earphones work? I have seen plenty of iPhone compatible earphones with call and music controls advertised. I assumed they would work with the HD but I'm no expert.

guidance welcome ;-)
[Touch HD Accessories] vangrieg:
You will be able to talk, probably pick/hang up the call, but the music controls most probably won't work.
[Touch HD Accessories] jaycee1981:
I have V-moda headset, which basically is for IPhone 3G. It it works with HD, I mean you can reaceive calls, or start voice dial,BUT YOU CAN NOT play/pause the music unfortunately. It worked on iphone, but here on HD doesn't
[Touch HD Accessories] Ascenca83:
So the only chance to control music on the HD (without touching the HD) is to buy A2DP earphones? :(

Hope HTC has but a datastream line in their 3.5mm jack!!!!

Would really be a little disappointment if it wouldnt be possible!

Btw. are there good A2DP earphones you can recommend?

Ascenca
[Touch HD Accessories] vangrieg:
You'd better prepare for a disappointment.

I haven't used A2DP on HD, but people report that it stutters with some devices at least. In addition to the problem that you need to charge the headphones separately.
[Touch HD Accessories] jaycee1981:
I have tried my HD with Sony Ericsson Ds-980 Stereo bluetooth headset, but unfortunately, the music not clear. Sorry i can't explain it exactly, so you hear some noise or something like that and the music sound not too clear and of course eat the energy from HD:rolleyes: during you use A2dp
[Touch HD Accessories] exe:
What about using a BT audio dongle to control the HD and using the wired 3.5mm from the HD for the sound?
[Touch HD Accessories] Strus:
Ok, so let me get it clear...

HD has 3.5mm jack slot like for example X1 but it's impossible to use it proper way?

Biggest mistake IMO - HTC should have done headphones like SE so we can separate them from microphone and remote and plug what we like instead....

So if I would like to control playback and talks I HAVE TO use bluetooth set?
[Touch HD Accessories] vangrieg:
They should have just left the extUSB functionality.
[Touch HD Accessories] marcel808:
I have some bluetooth headphones (GEAR4 PG118 BluPhones) and they work perfectly on the HD. A tiny bit of hiss, but sound is very good, very clear. Tried it on music player and coreplayer for movies
[Touch HD Accessories] prpmlp:
- Your HTC device may require a driver for this audio accessory to function correctly. If you experience any problems, then please download the driver from here, once the driver is downloaded, the file name needs to be renamed to zip.

I think HTC did not include the HTC driver for the USB as standard in the rom
[Touch HD Accessories] alx240575:
What about this headset? Nokia Musik-Headset HS-45, AD-54

http://www.nokia.de/link?cid=EDITORIAL_821817
[Touch HD Accessories] vangrieg:
What about it? Remote will not work.
[Touch HD Accessories] noonghunna:
Dear prpmlp,

Could you please provide a download link to the drivers? I've tried everything and haven't come across the audio drivers as mentioned in another thread http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-307405.html

By chance, do you have em? I sense from you message that you might be aware of them and just forgot to point out the [link]here[/link].
[Touch HD Accessories] noonghunna:
Never mind! I found the drivers. Seems like the spanish accessories store is still selling the RC W100 controller and its the only place where i found the driver.

I tried installing the drivers on HD but in vain. Everytime i tried the windows mobile stopped booting. i guess there is no easy way to get the RC W100 remote control working with Touch HD.

I'll just dump em and gonna buy some bluetooth shizzle.
[Touch HD Accessories] derxandi:
Equalizer and Bluetooth

I had the same problem, connected Motorola S9 and they work fine, only the Equalizer only works if headphones are connected via the 3.5mm jack.

Anyone knows how to change that?

KR

Xandi
[Touch HD Accessories] lepsyfou:
oups sorry delete
[Touch HD Accessories] PelloG:
ist it possible to use a cable headset and control the functions of the player with an BT-remote control? That would be nice because a can leave my hd in the pouch but can control it with the rc.

A cable headset with this BT-function would be awsome....
[Touch HD Accessories] sumitescp:
I know no bluetooth, but I am just sharing my experience.

Blackstone + Motorola s9 = perfect combination of wireless sound + controls and comfort.

I have been listening to music for 4 hours without stopping and it is perfect.

Just bought the headset for 39 pounds from Carphonewarehouse in leicester city centre. It was 59 but i had a 20 pounds voucher which was running out today so I just bought the ROCKR s9

I love it people should really try this and they will love it. calls handled perfectly, music changing, volume, etc. PERFECT

Happy:p
[Touch HD Accessories] devil-strike:
I am going to try this one out next month sennheiser MM 200

I hope it will work whit the HD because it is a lot of money if it doesn't work :)

here is a linkhttp://www.sennheiser.co.uk/uk/icm_senncom.nsf/root/products_mobile_mobile_music_mm_200
[Touch HD Accessories] NOBELOVE:
It sound like a work around. Have anyone tried this method?
[Touch HD Accessories] santacruzdz:
We Need A Remote Control For Hd !

I cant believe HTC didn't releaze yet a remote control for the HD ??? what if somebody use the RC 100 remote control with an adaptor jack 3.5 and connect it on the HD ??
[Touch HD Accessories] nilecoma:
Hi everybody,

I read many forums about a good headset/earphone solution.

I saw the Iphone jack was the same that the HTC.

I didn't try the Iphone earset but someone who works in a showroom Fnac (France) told me "No, its not compatible".

And I just bought the motorola S605 : it works fine !!!

I recommand it :

- radio included so no need to use the HD one, with 5 preset, and no need

to have a wire just falling down th HD to have an antenna

- it controls perfectly the TF3D player, volume, play/pause

- it switches btw radio or player when a call arrived

- the earphones sound quite good but you can use your own with the 3.45 jack.
[Touch HD Accessories] nilecoma:
... just a precision S605 is bluetooth of course ! ;)
[Touch HD Accessories] arneskil:
Testing

I'm going to teste a Nokia headset AD-44 HS-44 Handsfree Music Headset.When I checked that out I will report
[Touch HD Accessories] santacruzdz:
i think i will purchase that motorola s605, so do you confirm that works perfectly with HD ? does it control next/previous tracks as well? what about the sound ? good bass ?
[Touch HD Accessories] santacruzdz:
that would be interesting to know if this nokia headset is compatbile, especially fully compatible included music controller.so let us know asap !! thanks
[Touch HD Accessories] arneskil:
Nokia headset AD-44 HS-44 is not working because there is a smaller JACK than 3,5mm. on that headset
[Touch HD Accessories] pressfirenow:
Yeah I also though about still using the 3.5mm jack on the Touch HD for headset and just a bluetooth device as remote only. Like Jabra BT3030 or Motorola S705 / S605. Is this possible ? I fear that once you profile the bluetooth audio device, windows mobile will insist on also sending sound this way instead of using the 3.5mm out on Touch HD.

I guess some benefits of this could be avoid bluetooth issues like volume/quality of bluetooth device output (read some review that for example too low output volume level can be a problem on the Jabra BT3030). Also it would save more power (on phone and bt device) as sound don't have to be transmitted to the bluetooth device ?

I don't have a bluetooth device but I guess that would involve connecting the Audio Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP), and not connecting the Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP) of the bluetooth device. Anyone tried this ?
[Touch HD Accessories] robned:
It won't work. Period.

The extUSB (micro USB) solution will obviously not work. An error message will tell you to remove any USB headset.

The 3.5 mm headset (doesn't matter the brand) has a button that when pressed will answer or hang up. Click twice and it will bring you the latest dialed number.

It won't however do anything more fancy... for instance 2 clicks (previous track). 3 clicks (next track). 1 click (Stop/play).

This is something that my 1996 tape (you read it - TAPE) casette (walkman type) did. This is before 3G for you younger readers out there... :)

So, you try to override this by using a Key Mapper? yeah, sure. Disengage the voice dialer from the Registry? What happens... well the problem is that a driver is what dictates what should happen when the microphone button is pressed. And that is all up TO THE MIGHT PROGRAMMER AT HTC. Who has missed out on a few things here and there...

Don't get me wrong. I love my HTC Touch HD. But I don't want to take it out every friggins minute or two!

So to all the idiots who were screaming 3.5 mm steroe plug in chorus? This is what you got. happY???? What was wrong with the miniUSB?
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
Actually: yes :cool:. If you want more controls, buy a bluetooth headset, otherwise use an iphone compatible headset. Those are the connections that are common in the current phone/pda/mp3 market and for which many solutions exist already, without requiring adapters. HTC's conforming to this gives the user more flexibility...
[Touch HD Accessories] robned:
flexibility?

I spend half my life on airplanes it seems. So I can't use BlueTooth. Besides I love getting tangled up in my wired stereo headset. So, please, let me use my wired stereo headset. Please let me use the same feature as I had on my tape player from 1996. Its not that fancy...

But - you are wrong, my dear. Giving users more flexibility? How is that? HTC removes the possibility to use old RC E100 headeset extUSB headset via miniUSB and sets us up with a 3.5 stereo connector. The remote on this doesn't do anything fancy! Why? Because the pressing of the button is low-level progamming - meaning there is a driver picking up what happens. Once this driver releases the event, it can't be used for anything. For instance, key mapping the clicks. Now how is that flexible to you? No 3rd party program can make it useful...

To me its an issue where windows has limitations, where HTC has not done a good job with their drivers and where no way on earth, will a wired Ipone headset bring me any functionality to that button.

you say flexibility? Well, that is when HTC will give us 1) A new driver 2) New accessories. In my experience - everything will take at least 6 months. That is the common knowledge of HTC. Sell the phone first. Make the accessories for sale later.

I'm in for the ride - but this is everything but flexible....
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
I understand your point. I can imagine two audio connections (extusb and 3.5) conflicting and perhaps being expensive and complex to produce and space-consuming, but perhaps htc could have added both options. But i still stick to my point that conforming to market standards gives users the most flexible choice without forcing them to buy dedicated products and without the hassle of adapters. Many non-nerds tend to like parsimony, my dear. Blame apple for setting a one-button standard (and indeed htc for not making the best use of that button).

I do also think that your situation is very specific, in that you're in a position where you can't use bluetooth, but still want remote control. Usually bluetooth is for outdoor conditions and wired for indoor where pulling up your device is less of a problem. The fact that these are the market standards proves me right. BTW is there anything better than flashing your HD around every now and then in a plane ;)
[Touch HD Accessories] NisseGurra:
BIG dissapointment

No wired remote!?. Crazy
[Touch HD Accessories] Corr:
no more accessories

:mad: Why wont HTC release any more accessories to the Blackstone?

They sell an expensive device with almost useledd earplugs and they don't offer any other alternative.

That's not good service. Anyone asked them if somethings coming?

No one out there that found a headset with 3 rings that works like the one that comes with the phone?
[Touch HD Accessories] trinity.htc:
see next post, can not delete this one :-(
[Touch HD Accessories] trinity.htc:
Hi,

I think about to test the AD-54 Nokia Adapter. I will post the results later.
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
What do you mean with three rings? Sounds cool: the three rings of earphone. :cool: Seriously, all my takes on what you mean are already answered in this forum, but perhaps you could clarify what you mean...
[Touch HD Accessories] jiff1:
does corr mean...

"a 3.5mm jack plug with 4 electrical connections and 3 black plastic rings" ?

i think all iPhone headsets are compatible with the touch hd, eg:

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/popups/gallery.php?product_id=17236&view_img=e.jpg

at least the one that i tried worked perfectly :)
[Touch HD Accessories] sparebattery:
But when using these iPhone headsets, we only get the dial/redial call functions and not the music functions (play/next etc).

Whereas when the same headsets are used with the iPhone, both call and music functions are working.
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
I've tested several models (shure SE110, etymotics hf2 and the ones that come with the touch HD) and with all of them call functions *do* work:

long press = voice dialing

while dialing:

short press = mute

long press = hang up

The music functions are indeed not working, which has to do more with windows mobile limitations. Both these facts were already discussed in this forum. I get the feeling we're talking in circles here...
[Touch HD Accessories] max2ict:
I have had several stereo bluetooth headphones and I now own the Sennheiser MM200 bluetooth stereo headphone it rocks, excellent music and call quality and long battery, I can not fault it. :)
[Touch HD Accessories] trinity.htc:
Hi,

the Nokia AD-54 does not work :(. It has lot of buttons: phone, back, forward, stop, play/pause and loudness. I open it and there are lot of chips.

Is there any application that can read the signals on the mic line?
[Touch HD Accessories] nicmic:
Wired headset with BT remote

I'm trying to use a wired headset with BT remote here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=505281

If anyone can help...
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
Perhaps that does indeed address the wishes of some on this forum. Please let us know if you get it working.
[Touch HD Accessories] lucky3d:
hd work fine with bluetooth headset plantronics 590e.. remote control worked too..
[Touch HD Accessories] e6r6i6c:
Ik came across the Jabra bt303 it's a bluetooth remote, with it's own 3.5mm input, so you can use your own headphones.

I only have it for one week, but it works perfectly with the touch flo player, and also with the mediaplayer, you can choose which one to use yourself.

The sound is good, and the volume is also hard enough, sometimes I even had to turn it down. It has all the right controlls, volume up and down, next or previous track, pause and play, and answer call button.

I also looks very cool

The headphones that are included, also are very good, I had some philips in ear headphones that I thought where very good, but I am using the headphones from Jabra now.

Websites

http://uswww03.gnnetcom.com/jabra/BT3030/BT3030_presentation/rocco_final_v3.html

http://www.jabra.com/Sites/Jabra/NA-US/Headsets/Pages/JabraBT3030.aspx
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
BT3030 i presume. Thanks for sharing your experience. Could you tell something about power usage/recharging times?
[Touch HD Accessories] e6r6i6c:
Ow sorry, yes it's the bt3030

And about the power usage/recharging time, in the guide it says you can use it for listening to music 7 hours, and 230 standby time, I don't remember talking time, But I gues thats also around 7 hours. I have recharged it ones for about 3 hours, and after two weeks It is still working, and I listen to music every day, and also used it to phone to my girlfriend. You can charge it with the adapter that is included.
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
Does anybody know if MS Voice Command works with the default headset?
[Touch HD Accessories] :
Even the TV out functionality. Business tactics I guess.

I think they have just Blocked the extUSB (avoid conflict when both are plugged etc. making developers life easier and support issues lesser) rather than removed the coding :p. Anyone??

Also if all the Blackstone users here ask HTC for addition of drivers ExtUSB audio, TVOut, and FM over BT they might consider in an update or at least in whitestone from where we can port it into our devices.. :p
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
For anyone looking for a wired headset with the ability to do more than just answer a call: consider voice command
[Touch HD Accessories] roger18:
i also have the BT 3030 and it works great :D

I use it also for ùy motorbike helmet (with a scratch), so that i can phone and hear music while riding.

It has a 2 channel receiver, so i can hear sources from 2 devices

An excellent choice !!!
[Touch HD Accessories] worksofart:
Would it be possible to extract the extUSB drivers from Rhodium (or TOPAZ at least) and port them into Touch HD?
[Touch HD Accessories] apy:
Someone created some remote control functions with the standard HTC headset.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502881

Press quickly two times: play next track

One long press: Play/pause
[Touch HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
Here's my problem...

I ride my motorbike in to work, I like to listen to music (quietly) as I do this. I sometimes have my BT headset for the helmet connected. With wired a headset it stops playing if I get a call, but with a wired, how do I mute it when someone is talking to me?
[Touch HD Accessories] tilleke:
Sorry for not replying to your question.

I ride my motorbike in to work as well. What kind of earphones are you using? I mean bulky ones, at least for me, tend to fall out of the ears while wearing my helmet. Or are you using a special helmet with built in earphones?
[Touch HD Accessories] AndyCr15:
No, I'm just using regular in-ear earphones. I just need a simple way of muting them when maybe another biker pulls alongside and starts talking to me....
[Touch HD Accessories] subseb:
Since there is audio present on the ExtUSB port the non-compatability issue with remote control headphones is most likely down to driver support. The physical conenctions are present and working.
[Touch HD Accessories] homer285:
What a shame, a wired remote would be very handy
[Touch HD Accessories] JLowe:
Does you also expererienced with BT-headsets that if you push the pause button (BT-Headset) that the screen of the HD switches on?

It stays on if you don't switch off the HD manually.

Also any other alternatives for wired headsets with micro?
[Touch HD Accessories] JLowe:
I tested the Monster iSoniTalk (Adapter with Micro) and it works fine, but it's quite heavy and uncomfortable because of the two cables (one for the mic and 2nd for the headset), you have 3 clips to connect both cables together, but it doesn't fit very well.

The sound isn't so bad, but also not so good, it's quite flat, costs around 15-20 Euro.

The cable has a micro with a button which can be used also for music with this tool here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=502881

Then I tested the Shure Music phone Adapter (around 40 Euro). The cable has also a micro with one button and works flawless with music.

The sound is really good and natural. An ideal combination is the Shure SE110 (around 70 Euro).

They fit for my ears in combination with the silicon upper parts very good, also after some hours.

The cable is short, but in combination with the adapter it'S perfect for me. Also very stable.

So the best choice for me is a adapter with a micro and then a separate (In-Ear) Headphone.

A good alternative should be the Ultimate Ears SuperFi 4vi (without micro) or the older SF3 [around 80 Euro]

They are used by professional music band when playing live.

The headphones are quite neutral, doesn't have too much bass.

I only read about the UE a lot but can't test them yet. A big advantage is also that you can buy a replacement cable if it's broken.
[Touch HD Accessories] crazililazn:
hopefull they allow extusb to be used for audio later on in future devices so we can port to our htc touch hd :] then we can use the rc100 for remote.
[Touch HD Accessories] fards:
But you can use any iphone compatible headphone with mic on the HD.

I do exactly that (using the aforementioned small app to allow pause/play/fastforward control of audiomanager).

The cheap ones I bought from HMV fofr £15 work fine, sounds much better than the stock HTC headphones (and the ****ty HTC headphone adaptor)
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
Thanks, we know. I think it's time to summarize the discussion so far:

* With the solution of an iphone like (four-pole minijack connection) you only have a 1-button remote. But you can use any headphone you already have or purchase any headphone you like without using adapters. And for headsets (with mic) it's also the most common format.

* With extusb as audio out you can connect a complete remote (play/pause/forward/back/volume/...).

There are other solutions:

* A bluetooth headset can have a full remote but it uses more battery and for some the audio quality is not good enough.

* speech control: by default you can use long press of the single button to activate voice dialing. However with for example microsoft voice command you can do everything speech controlled.

So that seems the best option for most: use your favourite headphone and headset in combination with voice command: no battery drain, no grabbing in your pockets for skipping a track or changing the volume.

By the way, extusb is getting to an end anyway as mini-usb is becoming the new standard and mini usb 3 has also just been created, although the cables are about the ugliest thing i've ever seen. So, basically it's a smart move of htc, and if they would include a good voice control, most everybody would be happy.
[Touch HD Accessories] homer285:
Are you sure?
[Touch HD Accessories] pizzaman79:
Yes, but to clarify: i meant if the audio comes out the extusb port. So afaik it doesn't work for the blackstone.