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[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Couple of new insights on the phone while I'm on vacation:

1) while it was during the heatwave, the phone throttled massively outside when i was trying to take photos and listen to music with full brightness.

Now it's understandable but it throttled to the point that even the animations were laggy like on 10 years old device, never happened on my Huawei.

2) Animation lag is real specially after phone boots up and loads apps, switching between them creates a millisecond delay that's noticeable, i think it's because of the bad LTPO implemention.

3) Battery life is an issue but might be better than other SD8GEN1 devices, the SOC really kills the battery and phone ultimate potential, it could be the best phone easily.

4) On the positive side, the camera is unmatched specially at night, they really good that right.

I'll share battery stats later and hopefully we can pinpoint the problem with logs for vivo to fix, as this phone is too good to give up.
[Vivo X80 Pro] lemonade747:
just do factory reset then everything will come back as in initial state. For the heating issue, it's widely known for this x80 pro. This reason just holds me back to buy it.
[Vivo X80 Pro] lemonade747:
Good to hear this. Not sure if vivo is gonna fix it or not. If not, then I would say no to it.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Alelipa:
iam aware of that buddy .did reset couple of times so far.. the problem is that even if i wont use adb to debloat , google services will stop working .literally i can install play store and some google related apps ,like youtube ,youtube music and so on and start using phone normaly and aftter an hour or so i cant login to any of these... i think iam gonna return this phone ..to bad, such a great camera ... i probably could live with oveheating but not without google services ...
[Vivo X80 Pro] lemonade747:
What version you have? Funtouch or Origin OS? As I read somewhere that Origin OS has some problems of installing and running google services.
[Vivo X80 Pro] petitbreton:
Hi everyone,

I got the phone when it was released in France at beginning of the month and so far I'm not disappointed. The battery life is far from perfect but that was expected and that's not the reason I bought the phone. Coming from a Mi Note 10 I bought it for the camera and for that matter I'm not disappointed at all.

I would have a couple of questions though :

- when using the default main mode, the lights are less "shiny" (I don't know the perfect term) giving more details to the surroundings. So far I've been unable to find a way to get the same result with the other modes

- in the picture below, the 12Mpix mode gives me an orange reflection on the water but I've been unable to find the right setting for the high res mode. The 50 Mpix pictures gave me a white reflection on the sea. I tried to find settings on the high res mode but it doesn't seem to have a lot of them. Is it normal to have so few settings for this mode ? For example, I'd have liked to get the Zeiss mode in high resolution.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
High res mode is limited compared to the 12.5mp binned mode.

It was the same way with my Huawei device, high res won't be the must accurate but they still can tweak it.

Just use the default 12mp mode.
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Looks like you got lucky! Honestly, if I were you...if the only "problem" is the shutter lag (alrthough samsung is proving very slow to address this), and you're happy with the phone overall, I'd hang on to it. If the X80 Pro were issue-free and with a more polished, non-buggy UI, I'd say "give it a try", but as things are, I'd stick the the S22U.

I totally understand what you mean, I've been using a P30 Pro since release--best phone I've ever had. If it weren't for the damn US ban and consequent lack of Google services, Huawei would completely dominate the Android world (being the "Apple" of Android)

Even if it's software, u2sers shouldn't be unknowing Beta testers. When I buy a flashship phone, I want it to work well NOW, not in 6 months. I'd wait if i were you and see what is released with the SD 8 Gen 1+, or Gen 2, which hopefully will be more power efficient...
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
Some of that might have to do with AI and auto-HDR. Try disabling them (Auto-HDR is on the top of the screen; AI on the bottom left). You can also play with exposure and saturation by activating "Effects master" (top-right settings menu > effects master, then drag your finger right/left to adjust saturation, and up/down to adjust exposure)

Unfortunately, the amount of options in high-res mode are pretty limited: No Zeiss color mode, no HDR, no AI, and most surprisingly, no RAW mode.

Unless high-res is super important to you, the place where you'll get the most control is in Pro mode, where you can use Super-raw, which will allow you to retain AI/HDR enhancements while also giving you the flexibility of proper editing of "digital negatives".
[Vivo X80 Pro] wimbawaya:
By the way, are you guys reporting bugs/things that need improving via the Vivo.com app > Support > Feedback? I think we should really make some noise and submit all of our complaints so that maybe they'll address them
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Very good feedback mate, we need to forward all of this to vivo together and separately.

Camera is top-notch but the animations bugs, notifications and battery needs a major rework.

Idle drain is bad unless you're on airplane mode or use the phone all the time, it seems vivo kernel combined with android causing some issues.

Wish we could have more control on cpu power, likely to reduce it without forcing the phone going to power save mode and have all other effect on.

Let's forward all of this to vivo via live chat and the feedback app.
[Vivo X80 Pro] saumyasarkar68:
hi i have bought vivo x80 pro on last 13th June 2022 . Just after 1 month of use on 14th July i have noticed over heating issue so i went to service center on 18th July and today is 27th July 2022 my mobile is at Jalpaiguri West Bengal Service center from last 21 St July 2022 still today. Now they are saying getting Temperature about 47*c is normal it might be fixed on next update (which they don't know when it will come ) and also they can't assure the next update will fix the issue in future or not. So now VIVO service center is asking me to take the mobile and go home and wait for uncertain time to solve this issue on my own. So now i want to know what shall I do after spending 80000 rupees ?

Job sheet numbers MWINWB010162207210002,MWINWB010162207200004

My Registered mobile number 9641942288

I have added a video also where you can see in the end of the video the camera becoming blurry cause of over heat.

please help
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
How can they be sure that the next update will fix it?

Have you tried Vivo live chat as well?

You should direct them to this forum as well as they appear to take some notes.

I've got a new update on trial version that suppose to fix some lag and improve mobile data drain, just testing it but at least they do appear to try and solve those issues.
[Vivo X80 Pro] saumyasarkar68:
they dont know anything they just assuming next update might fix the issue or i have to go to service center again.

already from last 7 days i had wasted 7 hours i have told them already everything.

customer care is pathetic they always says technical team contact will contact u soon.

whenever they call either call got disconnected or i cant hear .

I had asked even for their technical department numbers they can't share that either.

what should i do sir ? any idea?

i had msged them today also everywhere twitter Instagram facebook email everywhere
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Try contact them again and wait for the next updates.

We can also try and notify the biggest YouTubers that review phones, if they'll acknowledge the issue, the company will take notice.
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
A shocking, yet highly effective way to control heating and massively extend battery life is to go to the Battery optimization and totally switch it off. Vivo and several other manufacturers have been struggling with sd8gen1 battery management and have just not understood how to reign it in.

Doing the following has worked wonders for me and I've have made the phone my daily driver again.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
I've actually done it but to no avail atm.

Though battery life without sim seems to be ok.

I'll wait for the next update to see what's going on.

So far, the ROG6 is soo good.
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
By switching off battery optimization you actually mean to set for every app "don't restrict background power usage" in background power consumption management?
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Yes!

Clearly, a lot of these companies don't know their way around the sd8gen1 power management!
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Would try that as well
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Are you saying that with this power management switched off, overheating/throttling is no longer an issue? This is literally the only problem holding me back from buying this phone. I am still using a Huawei P30 pro but think there are enough reasons for a Vivo upgrade - if overheating is no an issue!
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Overheating and battery drain are major issues on this phone.

I have resolved both via the above fix.

The phone doesn't heat up at all for me, hence throttling is also not an issue.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
well that's big news! Seems all the discussions about battery drain/overheating can be put to rest. I will certainly reconsider the phone now, thanks!
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
What kind of fix is this supposed to be?

Withdrawing permissions for apps that do not exit should solve the problem of a poorly optimized CPU?

If there is something against it, it sits deeper in the system.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Let's all try this solution and report back, it's the only way to make sure.

It is possible also to remove com.vivo.pem via adb commands, it further removed vivo battery optimization.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Washo4evr:
the optimization could be constantly trying to close an app, while the app keeps rerunning itself for notifications or something like, forcing the CPU to be awake all the time
[Vivo X80 Pro] Latoc:
Exactly what I was thinking...
[Vivo X80 Pro] HellStorm666:
An update from my side.

Yesterday I had the first normal working day, so could compare the battery life a bit better (compared to the P30 Pro).

At the end of the working day I still had 65% battery left.

Had 3 phonecalls with a total of 20 min. Browsed the web for about 45min.

When I got home a watched YT for about 1h. and browsed the web for about 1h.

At the end, with 17h between charges, I had about 20% left.

No heating issues what so ever (never had).

The optimizing part stated above is done for about 15 apps, with about 10 apps locked in the taskmanager.
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
Got mine X80 pro, Global FunTouch 12, 8gen1 edition. This is my battery after about a week of usage. The phone is unbelievable. Used S22U, used 13 pro max, and Pixel 6. The cameras are phenomenal! Maybe the zoom is not the likes of S22 Ultra, but the rest of the phone, and the cameras, the looks, the feel in the hand... I could have gotten the s22 Ultra or 13 pro Max, again, but I decided to buy Vivo. And don't regret it a bit!
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
You are the few lucky ones, that might realted to low mobile or ideal drain that most of us have.

Since i now use the ROG6 as the daily driver, the X80 Pro just sits there and watches with a sad face .... it's now on it's 5 day after i charged it, 12% left with close to 4hr sot.

Sounds impressive but that's with airplane mode always on, on daily basis that would never happen but it shows that there is a drain that vivo needs to fix asap.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Thanos88:
Interesting, but how would turning this setting off help with heat & battery life? 🤔 Wouldn't leaving it on or on smart be better as the apps won't be running in background?
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Something is wrong with the way their battery management algorithm is running and that is clearly causing the processor to go into a loop. Heat and battery drain are the by products.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Lexxmark:
Hi, guys. Sorry for off topic. I want to say that x80 pro sucks against x70 pro plus in battery area. Take a look, I have 34! hours from one charge😛, it's not your 24-26 hours as I saw from your screenshots.
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
Well, that's nice. Although 5 hours of SOT in 34 h is not much, but kudos to you
[Vivo X80 Pro] Lexxmark:
yes, I agree. But besides that I don't have any heating issues!!!😜🤩
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
Me neither on my X80 pro
[Vivo X80 Pro] Lexxmark:
Do you have Dimensity or SD?
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
SD gen 1
[Vivo X80 Pro] Lexxmark:
Than you are lucky!)
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Has anyone else tried swithcing off the battery optimization for the apps and noticed a positive change in heat generation and battery life?
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Vivo has been very forthcoming and prompt on its updates. Especially in the beta channel.

This will be one of the first devices to get Android 13 after the Pixels! 😊
[Vivo X80 Pro] Thanos88:
I am thinking of buying the Dimensity version today from china, I wanted to know if I'm able to download my Google backup on the Chinese model? I have WhatsApp backup & photos etc on Google drive,
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
So the X80 Pro can have GREAT standby time if you have airplane mode and no sim....

Went to sleep with 100%, 9 hours later it's still on 100% which is great, albeit no sim and airplane mode is on.

It definitely shows that there is a big idle drain when we use our sims, some have more, some have less, but it's there.

Android 13 is around the corner and i hope they'll resolve it there.
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
I feel sd8gen1 is the culprit here. Poor thermals and poor power management.

The companies have tried their best to work around it, but now gen 1 plus is launched. Gen1 will be forgotten.

Gen1 plus has the issues ironed out, though. Hope future firmware updates for the gen 1 carry the requisite instructions to keep the device functioning optimally.

I've always owned a flagship device but nothing has had this poor a battery life.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
SDGen1 is the true successor to SD810, I'm not sure which one is worst.

SDGen1 plus is much better, i hope next gen won't have this issues
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Hopefully a Pro Plus later this year then. Guess that's just a rumour at this point
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Well it's better than nothing, but since we already got the pro, it probably means nothing to us.

I wish other companies would use 6000mah batteries and not the dreaded 4500-5000mah
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
I guess the big question is whether this is purely software related or a hardware issue. If the latter, I assume Vivo will move onto the Pro Plus with the new processor rather than working on a fix. I'm just puzzled why they released a flagship phone with such serious issues and thought people wouldn't notice. Or perhaps they thought customers would forgive the terrible battery life and lagging in exchange for a market leading camera
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
I think it's both.

There are no devices with good battery life that has SD8GEN1 unless they limit is severely.

Vivo has software issues that creates mostly a huge idle and mobile drain, moreover, i have to say that the x80 pro is a slow phone and not fluid at all.

Looking at my ROG6 vs vivo, it's like night and day, plus the vivo has many apps that don't use the 120hz while the same apps utilize 165hz on the ROG6.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Any of you regretting not buying the Xiaomi 12S ultra? I shortlisted these two
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
The 12s Ultra is just hype. Not more.

Check out tests on Youtube. The camera cannot keep up because the software from Xiaomi is poorly optimized. In addition, Vivo has its own chip for processing images. I have no regrets and am very happy with the Vivo.
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
No regrets here as well
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
And the updates just don't seem to stop
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
Test Update or normal Update?
[Vivo X80 Pro] dzontra83:
Im still on 12.0.12.0, and still getting no updates
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Good news - surely some of these updates will address the issues holding this phone back from greatness!!!
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
I think the biggest update will come within Android 13.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Check out this battery/temperature test of the X80 Pro against other phones. Comes out cooler than the S22 ultra and longer battery life. I've never heard such conflicting feedback on a phone! Very confusing
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Test
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
The devices will all run without a SIM card. Hence the high values.

I don't think the tests are meaningful.

If a SIM is in the phone, you get completely different values due to poor reception or other things.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
It's not real world usage though there is no conflict.

Once you'll put a sim and task the phone daily, you'll see who will win
[Vivo X80 Pro] dzontra83:
Any idea how to force update EU W30 model, I'm still on 12.0.12.0
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
this is the last version.

just wait there will be an update.
[Vivo X80 Pro] HellStorm666:
No idea, got the update to 12.0.12.12.W30 last Tuesday

Not true, I have 12.0.12.12.W30 and (since it is W30) I cant upt-in for test/beta, so it is the normal release.
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
Which country? I'm still on 12.0.12.7.W30
[Vivo X80 Pro] HellStorm666:
Netherlands
[Vivo X80 Pro] tobias14:
Could you share changelog ? Just to see what I'm missing :)
[Vivo X80 Pro] HellStorm666:
Sure thing.

Screenshot wouldn't be helpful since its in Dutch ;)

But...

System:

updated security patches of August 2022

Network:

parts optimized in certain regions to improve network stability

Camera:

photo effects of rear camera optimized in certain scenarios.
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
My phone got upgraded today as well to 12.0.12.12W30, and there are some minor updates, and some not so little. A lot of apps didn't work on my Vivo for no obvious reason. Even stumble guys was choppy. Now all seems to be solved... Every single app works
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
where are you from ?
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
Serbia
[Vivo X80 Pro] dzontra83:
Hello, also from Srbija, what network are you from, mine is still at 12.0.12.0 (from Gigaton).
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
And...... We're online!

This is genuinely awesome! Getting a firmware alongside the Pixels! Kudos, vivo!

Installing now.
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Installed. Will comment in a few hours
[Vivo X80 Pro] dzontra83:
This is a closed beta?
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
yes!
[Vivo X80 Pro] HellStorm666:
How did you enter this closed beta?

I also own a W30 model and would like A13.

Is it stable? how is your overal experience with it thus far?
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
A closed beta trial showed up in my phone.

I entered it and they accepted my application.
[Vivo X80 Pro] HellStorm666:
Just a pop-up at random? or at a specific page?
[Vivo X80 Pro] dzontra83:
He probably has India W30 unit, they have the trial option in update settings, he got the message to apply for closed beta there.... Only Asia models have that options
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
Installed the same one currently testing.

I've noticed the first bug within the app drawer, the background of the apps menu is totally white regardless dark mode off or on.
[Vivo X80 Pro] jcik68:
can you check if AOD has more options when compared to Funtouch OS 12? (it is limited to 4 icons and only some preselected apps without ability to add any app I want to AOD)

Thanks!
[Vivo X80 Pro] Derpling:
The AOD is still useless.
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
ZILCH! Nothing new whatsoever!
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
Latest battery update
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
Just have one question conserning the front camera video. On gsmarena it says that it can shoot 4k 30fps, but I don't see that at all
[Vivo X80 Pro] morpheus620:
it only works 1080p. gsmarena's information is wrong.
[Vivo X80 Pro] DrRazee95:
Spoiler content hidden.

Mod. translation: so to make the battery last and keep excessive heating at bay, you need to disable 1 to 1 apps in optimization? or do I leave everything by default?
[Vivo X80 Pro] frankmehta:
Disable every single app.
[Vivo X80 Pro] DrRazee95:
Spoiler content hidden.

Mod. Translation: why does it make me deactivate only the apps that I have downloaded and not the default ones too?

PS. It seems that it consumes like s22u I thought that in terms of autonomy it was higher!
[Vivo X80 Pro] Haskren:
Has Android 13 sorted any of the throttling/heating issues and general sluggishness of the phone?

If not, I will abandon my plans to buy this phone and wait for the next release - hopefully with equal or better camera performance and all issues ironed out. At this price, everything should be smooth as butter
[Vivo X80 Pro] Washo4evr:
still running android 12 here and no issues with throttling/lagging

definitely not sluggish (personal appreciation at least)
[Vivo X80 Pro] ANIKUDI:
How's the battery life? what SOT are you getting?
[Vivo X80 Pro] Washo4evr:
battery is pretty good

I don't really have the feeling I need to charge often (and usually when I charge, it takes 30 minutes or so)

what app are you guys using that displays all the battery information like SOT?

Happy to take some screenshots
[Vivo X80 Pro] ANIKUDI:
You can use the battery menu under settings I think.
[Vivo X80 Pro] qualin:
Go to settings > battery > scroll to the bottom and there is sot and battery life from kasy charging.
[Vivo X80 Pro] Vijay879:
yes i experienced such issue...if you are using rear camera in sunny climate then the camera faces heating issue and the rear camera lens gets moisture in it due to which pics gets blown out...also this is faced when we are recording 8k video in any conditions...such kind of issue in 80k phone is terrible
[Vivo X80 Pro] jltrbb:
Hola, soy nuevo en el foro. Compré el x80Pro en España, llevo una semana usando el móvil y respecto a lo que preguntas en el post, te cuento mi experiencia.

Rendimiento, ni un solo problema, menú súper fluido, juegos (PUBG, COD, etc.) a máxima resolución y buena experiencia.

Respecto a la temperatura del móvil, hoy he estado descargando mapas de Google Maps mientras jugaba COD y descargaba los mapas del juego, y perfecto, la temperatura sube dentro de lo normal, vengo de un Huawei P20Pro, y diría que la temperatura es más alta en el Huawei.

PD: tengo procesador Snapdragon

Mod translation via GT:

Hello, I am new to the forum. I bought the x80Pro in Spain, I've been using the mobile for a week and regarding what you ask in the post, I'll tell you my experience.

Performance, not a single problem, super smooth menu, games (PUBG, COD, etc.) at full resolution and good experience.

Regarding the temperature of the mobile, today I have been downloading maps from Google Maps while playing COD and downloading the game maps, and perfect, the temperature rises within normal, I come from a Huawei P20Pro, and I would say that the temperature is higher on the Huawei.

PS: I have Snapdragon processor
[Vivo X80 Pro] Slashleopard:
I've been using the x80 pro for couple of days and have noticed that when camera is in use, the phone tends to heat up pretty quickly. And the heat is more or less concentrated near the camera module. Otherwise there is no other down side noticed so far. Any idea why the camera tends to heat up so fast?

More the features turned on in the camera the faster the heating. But as soon as the camera is turned off, the temperature goes back to normal soon enough.
[Vivo X80 Pro] AKh4133D:
I haven't experienced that yes. And I've been using the phone for couple of months now