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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] p.dixon0:
I've upgraded from an 8GB/512GB Exynos Note9 to a Snapdragon 12GB/512GB S22Ultra (S9080) and I couldn't be happier. Battery life is quite frankly amazing. The UI is buttery smooth. I don't like the in-display fingerprint sensor as much as the rear one from the Note9 and the form factor is a fair bit bulkier, but on the whole I'm personally very happy. Maybe I've just been very lucky.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] lebigmac:
A good Android phone has fastboot mode...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
So I watched both videos from start to end. There was nothing in the S22u video which indicated to me that it was of poor design or worse off than the N10+. As a matter of fact, it appeared (again in my opinion) that it was nothing short of a well thought out engineering marvel.

With regards to the N10+ video, there was nothing that clearly established that it was of a better design over the S22u. Again, the engineering was excellent for a phone released back in 2019.

I think some people are struggling to see the forest for the trees with regards to the location of the S22u s pen, lack of 3.5mm jack and SD card. I can list several things which the S22u has definitely improved upon:

- Under screen fingerprint reader is MUCH better (80-90% success rate vs less than 50% previously)

- Display is much better and supports 120hz refresh rates

- Wifi6e with 160Mhz channel support (can transfer gigs of data in seconds on my home network)

- Connector supports USB 3.2 (can transfer gigs of data in seconds to/from my SSD)

- S pen much faster react time

- Faster recharge time

With my SD based S22u, I have none of the heat, stuttering, or battery life issues others have mentioned. I get 10hrs SOT with no rooting or debloating - just normal tweaking with Android settings. We all have varying degrees of satisfaction with our phones based upon our usage and for me, the S22u has hit the mark. Could it be better, sure, but you're never going to get everything you want.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
You fail to understand that the S22U is near or has exceeded it's practical thermal limits. The designs are very similar except the S22U is intensely more power hungry. That heat has to go somewhere. Moreover it consumes more power than the N10+ rather than less. In spite of its limitations the N10+ is in many ways a more practical phone.

What I'm saying is Samsung could have done better rather than this kitchen sink approach.

No real innovation other than the cam at a high cost. Is it a Note or a pro shooter (it falls way short of that mark)?

Huge energy sucking, space hogging cameras (you need more processor power for them even if the cams themselves are more efficient). All the other points I previously made.

The near optimum balance was made in the N10+ in terms of functionality (SD card too), form factor (better in several keys areas) and good battery life without using a oversized battery which only adds to the thermal load. Even now at $750 a new N10+ with 256-500gb and 12gb of ram is a better deal and a more practical Note. That can't be said of the N9. A low latency spen (if I did more writing/drawing) and laser AF is all I add to the N10+ if I could. None of that is worth the loss of the expandable memory or the high color rendering index of the N10+'s display*.

Samsung is a mess... poor leadership; market driven and hype oriented. They could have done far better with this current flagship.

Whatever, reward subpar results and give them a trophy. If Samsung had released a worthy new Note I be holding it.

*so far no mobile phone with a variable rate display has scored higher than the N10+ including all reviewed iPhones. Results pending for the S22U. It will likely be similar as the variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to accurately color calibrate. That's one of the tradeoffs for 90+ hz smoothness.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
Well said Rubby. We all know blackhawk is a N10 fanboy, which is just fine. He is making a lot of remarks about the S22U and he does not and has not owned one. Not really a reliable source for S22U issues or how good or bad it is. It is his opinion the N10 is better and more power to him. Not everyone has had a bad time with their S22U. I like you have had no issues. I think the phone is quite nice. I also liked the S20+ I traded in.

I thought I would miss the SD card, but I do not. Looking, I never really used the 64GB one I had installed on my S20+. I can see where some people would miss it. Especially if they carry all their music and photos on the phone.

Spen is easily removed while the phone is in my left hand, but I have not owned a note and gotten used to it being on the right side of the phone.

Battery life is OK. I really cannot say it is worst then my S20+. It lasts me while at work all day unless I am on it a lot searching on the web.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
@blackhaw well, start a poll threat then. We can see better which will win. Even if you go by post counting you'll see that majority is very happy with the phone. And a few that isn't, have a defective phone that can be resolved by exchanging.

You insist in listing problems that are not particular to the S22 ultra. Or even Samsung.

Samsung is going the Apple road? Yes. Nothing is nore ridiculous than taking the charger away (though Samasing let you ask for one for free). But if you want to criticize a particular device, you can't count those things.

About improvements, there is much more than juat the camera. The smoothness of spen, faster experinence with bo lag, way better display, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
There has been a pole done and it sowed overwhelmingly more people happy with their S22U. Now granted, it was not a scientific poll and the OP did miss seperating SD from Exy versions.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
This is something I already mentioned. It seems the 8GB/128GB of both the Exynos and Snap Dragon variants are having issues. But if you listen to two mouth-breathing trolls, they make it seem it's the majority S22s are having issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Sage:
just sold mine after 3 days.. going back to my Xiaomi Mi11.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
Yes, a poll has already been taken which shows 87% of S22u owners are happy with their new phones. While I acknowledge it had a small sample size and some users are not happy (mostly exynos users), 87% is very convincing.

https://xdaforums.com/t/poll-are-you-happy-with-your-s22-ultra.4442345/
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
That is good. You should not stay with a phone you are unhappy with. Good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
I would not buy a 8GB phone. With the firmware and apps getting more intense, you should get 12 or better if and when available.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Griffin7296:
That was your choice and you used it. Does that say anything one way or the other about the s22 ultra? Absolutely nothing! Enjoy your Xiaomi.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Yeah, me too. But, unfortunately many carriers have S22 Ultra promotions that essentially say, "Well give you a free S22 Ultra if you trade in your current phone or switch to us." Consumers see the word "free" and jump not reading the fine print that says they're getting the base model version. They're are also a lot of people who can't afford the 12GB/256GB (or bigger) but can afford the base model. Then there are the narcissistic trolls that whine because Samsung didn't do what they wanted.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
When I got mine I got a 12/256 model through T-Mobile. It was not free with the trade-in. The free model was a 12/128 model. I upgraded to the 256 for $200. Do not regret it at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
Who buys a new phone and then sells it 3 days later as used when they could return it for a full refund?

Doesn't pass the smell test.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] AHE_XDA:
My S22 Ultra 5G is being picked up tomorrow, and I have high expectations.

As much as I wanted to like the Galaxy Z Fold 3, its poor modem (XM60), mediocre cameras, and lack of a stylus slot outweighed its overall usefulness.

(I must have gone through 3 cases before finding one suitable enough to protect the outer hinge and provide a slot for the S-Pen.)

I'm looking forward to something similar, if not better, than the Note 10/20 Plus.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] bat0nas:
You're lucky if you can return used electronics in your country.

We can only open a box, look at it and put it back. If we peel off the protective plastic - boom.. it's used already and can't be returned ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
In India, you can't even open the box. Once seal is broken, it means you bought it and have to pay and can't return it.

And if you are buying online, you can only cancel it before it's delivered. Once delivered, can't return it. Only if a defective unit is delivered and that too official service center verifies it as defective, one can return it for a replacement(no refund) within a specific timeframe.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] bat0nas:
We

Well that's even worse. Guess guys in US have way better consumer policies ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Well, that is a way better parameter than blackhawk's opinion. It's still a small group, and from xda users, which tend to know more about phones and Android (and be more demanding) than the regular owner. I'd say a larger group with people out of forum would increase that percentage.

Anyway, to me it's a great phone, probably the best I had until now.

However it is a pity that simple features like FM radio, SDcard and charger are being removed by the companies without any good reason..
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Timmmmaaahh!:
Good day all :)

I've been following this conversation for a while now and would like to compliment most of you for remaining so civil and respectful in this at times heated discussion. I've seen quite a few very strong opinions but I've also seen some slipping towards intolerance. Please remember that we're all people with feelings and this is still just a technical device. It's not worth fighting over because in the end we'll all go with our personal preference and whatever anyone else chooses is not yours to judge so please refrain from making things personal. Thank you for upholding a level of respect that is becoming of this community. Carry on 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Timmmmaaahh!,​

is punching the ignore button considered intolerant?🤣 Opps.

Time will tell, but I think the S22U will hold up better than the Folds but not when dropped🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] cpufrost:
I'd say it's a pretty good phone actually. There were some real turds in the past. Most phones I'd say aren't keepers are mainly due to my personal preferences. Everyone has different tastes whether it's music, movies, wine, and yes smart phones! ;-)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
How about closing this thread. There are two trolls who are arguing in bad faith. Neither of them actually own the device, nor have they actually used it.

How about closing this thread. There are two trolls who are arguing in bad faith; and they know it. Neither of them actually own the device, nor have they actually used it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] GOOGLE_USER:
EDIT -- To be clear, the entirety of this message is directed @gernerttl with the additional members' quotes added only to highlight points I've chosen to address.

How about, rather than attempting to deny others a forum, you make a choice to no longer monitor or participate in a thread that causes apparent distress.

I am also curious as to what your response would be to this question.

You are presenting unrequested counterpoints to the OP's question.

You are off topic and seem unaware that you have become that of which you complain.

Additionally, consider that nowhere is it stipulated that one must own a device to post regarding said device.

If I had to venture a guess, this is referring to you. You are not, in my mind, included in the "most."
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
So what you are saying is that it is ok to argue in bad faith, but not ok to call out those that do.

Got it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Yes, well... allow me to retort.

Not off topic. Most my posts are valid reasons not to buy this phone. It's not a bad flagship but Samsung could have done much better. To be clear I'm napalming Samsung. If you work for Samsung, suck it up...

The S22U is basically a super sized N20U or really super sized* without the hump or expandable memory. A worse color rendering index/white point, inferior form factor aside the N20U be my next choice. This model is where Samsung started going off the rails and just kept going... at least Samsung remembered to jam an spen in their flagship this time🤣

*roughly the same thermal dissipative capacity but with a much higher thermal load... not a good thing.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] GOOGLE_USER:
Apologies for my lack of clarity; my quoting of you was to draw attention that your valid point has been previously addressed [via that quoted post], and unfortunately ignored.

My entire post was directed at the one member and not you.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
No worries... at least you didn't call me a narcissist🤣

I'll point out how bad Samsung SOT has gotten. The newer flagships should be more efficient at least at 60hz then this N10+.

How bad is it? This bad.

This battery is due to be replaced soon; at the best it has a 3500 mAh capacity now. With a new battery it would get 6%@hr SOT while browsing in Brave instead of 9% in it's currently degraded state.

Streaming vids even now it will get about 8hrs SOT. The S22U is only milliseconds faster at opening apps. This device weights 30 gms less, is 1mm thinner and has a better display to border ratio. It's over 95°F ambient here and you can see how cool it's running with no cooling aside from a fan behind me.

A flagship is more than the sum of its parts. Samsung has lost their balance...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Paul_Deemer:
You should Never Again buy a Samsung Phone Ever! Then you won't have anything to cry about and you can go on living a normal life. 🙄
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] V0latyle:
**Moderator Announcement**

Folks, I'm going to have to remind you to be civil and respectful. We all have different opinions, and we are all entitled to those opinions, regardless of whether others like those opinions. Remember that there is a difference between discussing bugs, faults, shortcomings, etc of particular devices or software, vs just trash talking.

The bottom line here is, you don't have to like someone else's opinion, and you're free to debate with counterpoints, but you must respect everyone's right to their opinion.

If this devolves further into trash talking and incivility, we will close the thread, and may issue infractions as necessary.

Your understanding and cooperation are appreciated.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
XDA summed it up pretty well.

"As a result, if you’re looking for a flagship phone with good battery life and without the need to limit how it performs, you’re already going to have a difficult time. The Exynos 2200 is a no-go for many users, and the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 has a ton of its own issues. A no-compromise flagship that starts with a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 already means compromise, and there’s no real way around that."

In 2022 so far, there's no such thing as a perfect flagship

If you're looking to pick up a new phone, then this is probably one of the worst years to purcahse a flagship. Read why in our analysis.

www.xda-developers.com

Snapdragon variants can be purchased and shipped anywhere in the world, unless of course one is incapable of logging into eBay.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
Well that didn't take long.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
Closing the thread would be a disservice to buyers who wish to make an informed decision and avoid costly mistakes. If you've had enough then checkout, no one's forcing you to browse this thread. Also, if everyone needed to own an object to realize it was a lemon there would be Yugo Dealerships everywhere you look!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Aditya883:
No, for me it is a very nice phone but still I opted for an iPhone 13 because of the Simple designs and to get into the apple ecosystem. That's all
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Timmmmaaahh!:
I'm sure that won't spark any discussion on XDA 😅
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Could you list the issues that your phone have? If they are part of the list I made, could you argue against my points?

Or you just gonna post reviews and arguments without backing them up? Let me guess you don't own the phone too?

Ok, I don't think you must have the phone to have an opinion, but you must have one to have an experience.

We have two path to take: statistical data or personal experience. Both seems to be in favor of the S22 Ultra being a very good phone. In this thread the only ones that are trashing the phone are the ones that doesn't own it and is pissed of with Samsung. I don't like several changes they made, but my brain is capable of not mixing different subjects and I admit that this phone is very good. I have 0 complains about it specifically.

My complains are the same as they were in about 2019: No sdcard, no 3.5 jack, no FM radio. And they will remain the same as all brands seem to follow this path now.

Ok, from now on I'll only answer posts that actually have arguments related to this device, and not Samsung (or other brands) changes.

PS: You don't know what you're talking about. My currency is about 5:1 with US dollars and around 7:1 with Euro. The importation tax in my country is ridiculous. If I bought the SD variant from Ebay I would wai for several months, for a delicate piece of tech that would travel hundreds of kilometers and pay about 2x the price here due to taxes. So, yes, I was stuck with Exynos. Fortunately, now they made S22 Ultra snapdragon in my country \o/
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mcsti:
It is actually a piece of crap, nowhere near flagship level... You cannot even upload a video on social media without the frame drops, it looks like the video is 5-8fps, unbelievably bad unfortunately...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Griffin7296:
Respecting your own opinion - curious, what's your exact model - EXYNOS/SD?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Griffin7296:
XDA is just one of many opinions - respect it, extract the bad and the good - and move on! Very simple!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mcsti:
Exynos 512GB UK
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Griffin7296:
It seems that the EXYNOS models have many issues across the board - SD's seem to fare better (per user feedback - important variable to consider evaluating the s22 ultra).
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] The Root:
I think this thread is really bad but the phone is good.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
The 8GB/128GB models (both Exynos and SD) are the ones that seem to be performing the worst. The 12GB/256GB, 12GB/512GB, and 12GB/1TB models all are having little to no issues, that includes the Exynos models.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Well the S22U has the square corner display again, good, but not as much display::body ratio as the N10+, no expandable memory plus a one ounce weight increase* and very little battery life increase.

Yes, well... 3 generations latter it's a super sized N10+ with sprinkles... that's not innovation.

In 3 generations of Canon pro cams the differences are very tangible and desirable, not so here. Canon pores huge amounts of their profits into well directed R&D. Not a whole lot of double talk hype either; they want you to know how their cams work, white paper included.

* this will help by a slight increase in inertia when shooting to stabilize the phone🤣

However I don't think that was Samsung's intention...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] The Root:
Ok guy who doesn't have the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
I researched it well and continue to do so. If it was as good as you claim it be in my hand.

I vote with my wallet.

Is that all you got?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] The Root:
Yeah, just going to put you on ignore from now on. It's actually kind of weird to be that obsessed with a phone you don't have. And acting like some hero to the people is even weirder, so I don't have time for that.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
So how's your S22U taking the heat?

It's over 95F in the shade where I'm at. My degraded battery has used 8%@hr SOT browsing with Brave. My battery temp is 100.6 holding steady. This N10+ is in a Bolt case, it's been optimized and has no scoped storage active.

There are limits to thermal dissipation that are directly related to heat sink size ie the dimensions of the phone. Can a cased N22U take the heat?

A bigger battery doesn't fully address increased power consumption when it's hot. Has this already been exceeded? No thermal throttling here...

You call those statements retorts?

My beef is with Samsung.

Do want you will... I'm sweating bullets already🤣

My N10+ isn't though... 100.9 battery temp, cpu cores 106-111F with an ambient of 96.1F.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Yeah. Don't feed the troll.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] BigDisplay:
I had 2 different Exynos 128gb S22U, both sucked.

Now i order the 256gb snapdragon version and cross my fingers big time.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Note 10+ is weak. The spen is 42ms latency. You have to wait a couple minutes after every stroke.

S22U is 2.8ms, is quicker than a real pen.

Screen ratio is the same 90.2% vs 91%.

Processor is sd 8. That's ultrakill.

The cameras... Now, the camera of N10+ highest MP is 16. Ultra has fkng 108.

N10+ zoom is 2x. Squeeze your eyes right now. That's 2x zoom. That's the zoom you get with note. Ultra has 10x optical zoom and up to 100x spacezoom!!!

I took pictures of the fkng moon!! With craters and ****. It looked like it would fall in my window.

The n10+ also doesn't have a 3.5 jack...

So, yeah, the S22 Ultra is a beast next to N10+. The spen alone is enough to throw you N10+ in the garbage and get an ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

The improvement may not be as big as you expect. There are thermal issues with both chipsets apparently. Don't know how much of an issue this is or isn't thus my previous post's thermal challenge.

With Samsung it's always safest to wait 6 months until the dust settles with new releases... until the dirt comes out. By then what can be firmware fixed is largely done and any real issues are quit apparent. Rather than trying to get the latest Samsung flagship it's safer to get the one that best serves your needs. Anything higher then the N9 will perform well. Most of my points here are sadly valid... I blame Samsung.

I have zero faith in Google search engine results and major fake news reviewers. Sometimes the dirt shows up first on Reddit.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] BigDisplay:
Agree.

Basically i go for S22U because of the stylus and if im not satisfied in a few weeks, i return it and go for my 2 old phones which serves me perfectly 🤞🏻
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
2025 might be a better year for both Samsung and Google Android... if they can stop dropping balls. I'm in a holding pattern and can remain here comfortably for another 2-3+ years.

A lower latency spen be nice but not at the cost of expandable storage and form factor. The liability of the variable rate displays is another concern as well. They may never have the color rendering index of the N10+'s fixed rate display.

Making the displays brighter doesn't fix this issue!

Samsung needs to produce more efficient flagships rather than increasing the battery size.

4300 mAh was the tipping point for battery size.

Cam module sizes are getting too large as well... Samsung lost their balance completely with form, function and survivability. Dopes.

At 90F I start using a damp microfiber cloth to fast charge. Above 100F for active extended use like vids, damp microfiber cloth to cradle in.

Still running without as the ambient temp is at 96.8F now.