yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ANDROiD KiLLSWiTCH:
Yes

This rom does not have a radio with it so it will keep your current one. hard spl, one time, then flash the rom. Good to go!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
**Re-hash of what I've already said**

All of the new issues reported with v2.3 must be caused by the new build (20759). I am working on porting 20931, and a few others just incase ;). Once I have v3 running on a different build, I will test it for ALL of the new issues reported. And if it comes up clean, I will release it immediately.

My current ETA is Sunday late-afternoon/night EST.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Cyberfool:
Awsome

Id love to see V3, i actually wanna stick with a ROM for once...This rom looks like this is the one i can use for a long time, if u just get the wrinkles out...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
NaTF is da man, i have used all his Fuze/Raph roms and worked my way around the kinks. So no requests/questions/demands from me!

On a side note, i love these roms, not chock full of stuff i dont want.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] systoxity:
droppin by to show my contiuned support for this excellent rom :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] clavace:
GPS

I do not know why but I have found that sometimes I get better satellite signal with Bluetooth turned on.

NATF: GPS is still inconsistent where sometimes the satellite locks on correct and sometimes it cycles where it locks on and 1 minute later gets lost and disconnects.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] drunkbastard:
System freeze

I've been experiencing system freezes, generally when using another program while playing music through audio manager. I originally attributed it to having a slow SD card, so I bought an 8mb class 6, but I still have the same issue. I have also reinstalled the ROM, done a hard reset after install, and not installed any other programs, themes, etc. to test and make sure it wasn't something else. I noticed that at least one other person had freezing issues, wasn't sure if I needed to tweak something or undo a tweak to eliminate the problem.

Other than that, nice and stable, interested to see what v3 holds...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ghost13:
wehn i try to use strplayer with 2.3 i get a message saying framework3.5 isnt installed anyone else get this
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kk0813:
Under System folder there is .NETCF Config open it and check if you can see 3.5.7283.0 is mentioned in about tab, if not, under Device Policy tab, make sure this version is selected and click apply.

When I flased this version ROM default was selected and not 3.5, I selected this from the list and I see 3.5 in about tab.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] hidden_dragon:
Thanks Natf!!! I am currently very happy with v2.2 (after experiencing the 2.3 bugs) and am looking forward to v3!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
GPS

This may sound off topic at first, but it ends up relating to this rom. So I have a regular handheld car gps in my car. Its pretty old and I was thinking of buy the new 09 Garmin map update for it. That costs anywhere from $70-$100. Now that I have this amazing new cell phone (Fuze) I was thinking about using that money to buy a GPS map software for my phone and just use the fuze for gps and get rid of my stand alone gps.

So my question is what are some of the best work gps software for the Fuze, whether is be free or pay for? As I said before I am willing to pay 70-100 dollars for a good gps program, but I want to make sure it works well with the fuze AND natf's rom.

Do you think that this is a good idea? Or should I get my gps map update and stick with my stand alone navigation system? How many of you guys use your fuze as your primary gps?

Any and all help is much appreciated.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] guitarlp:
I searched this thread for "bell" but got no results... so I don't think this has been brought up.

I know a lot of you like TF3D (I think it's ok... not great). But the new Bell Touch Pro UI seems killer...

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1860

Perhaps this can be cooked into a future rom? Seems like a better UI then TF3D.

I'm going to download and install it now to check it out... but just from watching the video it looks many times better then TF3D.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] meelo88:
Working GPS program

I currently use the latest Garmin Mobile XT on the fuze with the stock rom with the 09 maps installed. I think it works great. It will prob work even better with the GPS fixes that NATF has implemented. I cannot attest to that yet (i'm waiting for v3 to come). Granted you have to buy it so it will prob not be as attractive as free.

Despite that, I still got it (lastest program updates too) and I love everything about it. It does not have streetname speaking and a couple of other goodies as a very well equipped garmin (+$700) would, but it does what you need it to do without extra hardware.

On top of that since you carry your phone around with you you can use it as a handheld as well. Rerouting is quick, the speaker is a little quieter than standalone systems but then again it is a smaller speaker.

Just my two cents.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reyatc:
Problem running MSN Messenger:

Congrats on this ROM. I have been using it for one week now I am enjoying it very much. I only have a few issues.

1. I can install MSN Messenger but it will not run. Has anyone experiencing this ussue?

2. It takes about 5 minutes to get GPS signal. I am using TomTom 7

3. I guees is because o this phone resolution compared to the Tilt but whn I use Live Search Mobile, the fonts and symbls on the maps are way too small. Any way of adjusting this?

4. Are there any tweaks to get better battery life?

Thanks in advance for any feedback on these issues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] reyatc:
Another request:

Which media player or Audio Manager is the best to use with this ROM. When I had my tilt I could even turn of the display and music will still play. Anyway of doing this with this phone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] RacherB:
Custom themes question

I have a quick question: when I apply a custom theme (on top of the NATF's ROM 2.3), the Touch Flo 3D interface often seems much slower than with basic NATF ROM. However, when I change back to the NATF interface (delete the custom theme), Touch Flo 3D still seems slow. Is that normal? Should I avoid custom themes for Touch Flo at all costs?

-Brian
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
From my experience with custome themes, using the Diamond TF3D Config to swap themes seems to slow things down. I use the FuzeBerry, and MobleMatt used a different method for installation, and from what i have seen, also allows me to uninstall so i can apply other themes built the same way. I do use Diamond TF3D Config for swapping menu items around, as it seems to have no affect on speed. I also use the Manilia Customizer to clean up the curtains. Still fine on speed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Ovrclck:
.32 will still be there as your stock radio until you flash radios.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] airbillion:
Is there any way to add the newest version of Opera (2808) to your next rom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kahibbi:
I noticed the cycling of the GPS using Co-Pilot Wednesday in Boston. It was crappy weather, so I kind of attributed it to that. But I didn't have any issues with finding and losing the GPS until 2.3.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Captain_Throwback:
The whole GPS software thing is mostly a matter of preference. That being said, I've tried Garmin Mobile XT, Tomtom Navigator 7, Mobile Navigator 7 (Navigon), and OnCourse Navigator. Hands down, my favorite is OnCourse Navigator (aka iGO in Europe). It includes 3D graphics, the maps are updated quarterly, and it even has TTS (text-to-speech) for road names. You can buy it on either 2GB, 4GB, or 8GB microSD cards, so that you have room for other stuff on the card. The UI is very easy to figure out, it offers a ton of features, and its overall very nice looking on the Fuze. But that's just my opinion.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jjwoznia:
GPS and overall natf 2.3

Just for starters-NATF this rom rules. Best by far that I have seen.

Now to the unfortunate issues I have:

1. GPS- I have to alway open the HTC GPS and open the port, then open gpstool, get a 3d fix, then and only then can I have Garmin XT get a fix.

2. I have an issue in landscape mode in the email and txting app, if I press the "menu" soft key in the bottom right, it highlights for about 3 secs and then goes to the home screen.

3. I saw it mentioned earlier, but nobody had a fix- colors in the call history!! Where did they go? And is the only way to get them back running the stock rom? I know it's picky but those green and reds really help me decipher that list of many phone calls.

Any ideas anyone? It's an awesome rom, and I only have these three complaints, and I'm am very picky about my devices like this. I used to be a palmOS guy, and I just love how "pseudo-open" the winmo devices are compared to Palm products.

Great rom NATF!!! Looking forward to v3 when it comes. Keep up the awesome work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] amarpatel:
I read that this ROM does not come with a radio. does that mean that I MUST flash one onto this phone after flashing the ROM, or will it use the default radio?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
It will use your default radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CarlCastro:
I think this is a problem with v2.3...

When you press the call button on any tab to bring up the recent outgoing/incoming call list... then you press down to go through the list it starts to put text over another and becomes laggy and unreadable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
I don't know about anyone else but I just checked and I am not having that problem with NATF's v2.3
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
Does anyone else have any suggestions of a good Nav software to use with the Fuze with NATF's ROM?

I am kind of thinking of going with the garmin mobile XT because I am used to there UI. Has anyone tried it out with NATF's v2.3?

Any comments/suggestions are much appreciated.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] CarlCastro:
Hmm I guess I'll either reflash or wait until v3 comes out. And if that doesn't solve the issue, I'll probably exchange the unit.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Superguy:
I tried his and ROMeOS. His is MUCH better. More things just work. I had strange data connection issues (SkyFire reported being in airplane mode), dropping GPS connections, the clock being annoying, and a lack of options in the control panel turned me off to ROMeOS.

Keep it up, NATF!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cushcalc:
Maybe you had a crappy lemon of a Tilt? 'Cause my Tilt keyboards (3 Tilts total that I've had) have always been rock solid. The Fuze keyboard feel is as good for me, but not any better - what is better is the number of symbols I can use without hitting Fn Key - I really thought at first that AT&T was dumb to change the numbers from the top row, but now I've decided there are pluses to this arrangement, including the fact of having a Start Menu key and an OK key!

The only build quality issue I have with the Tilt is the hardware keys around the D-Pad getting a little loosey-goosey. IMHO the best build quality of all the HTC's was the Hermes, and the Wizard and StarTrek were good, too (had 2 Wizards, and 3 StarTreks).

The Fuze is OK in build quality but nothing special, and I sure don't like the hard faceted back - it causes it to rock when on a flat surface - the Tilt was much nicer in this regard. I have ordered a Touch Pro back, hoping the soft touch back will keep the Fuze more steady on a tabletop.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheWebMachine:
Phone App recent call history, blended text bug confirmed

I hadn't noticed this bug until now. It does exist for me, as well. It doesn't occur until you attempt to scroll past the 3rd or 4th entry on the recent calls list, hence why I didn't notice it. Based on the point on the screen where the problem occurs, it behaves like the Diamond Keyboard is up and "invisible," blending/glitching any text changes in that area. When you scroll back up past where the keyboard would appear, it refreshes the screen and the blended text corrects itself.

I have a theory as to the cause...but before I go on about it here, I'm going to test a few things to see if I'm in the ball park.

[EDIT]

My theory was correct. There is a bug in the dialer that presents itself when SIP auto-deployment is disabled. I used Advanced Config and changed "Input" > "Auto deploy SIP" to "Enabled," soft-reset, and the problem is gone.

I am also noticing another bug in SMS (with or without auto deploy sip enabled), when I open an individual sms from TF3D, it will place the cursor in the entry field but doesn't display the keyboard. When I click the keyboard icon to bring up the SIP, it will appear briefly and then disappear because the cursor focus will move to the threaded messages. It proves to be a fight to the death to keep the cursor in the entry field while the keyboard displays itself (doesn't occur if the thread is opened from the inbox).

This appears related to the other SMS bug of not marking messages as read. When the thread window refreshes (opening the thread or attempting to load the sip), it automatically places cursor focus on the newest message (or the oldest new message, in the case of multiple new messages). This would explain why you have to open the sms thread multiple times to clear multiple messages...or, you can simply DPad up, selecting each new message for a second to mark it as read before closing the window. In previous OS builds, the sms thread would mark all messages in the thread as read when closing the window or sending a message...I have no idea why this build marks messages as read individually. I'm currently tearing apart the registry in an attempt to find a way to modify this behavior.

NATF, is any other chef using this particular build having these kinds of issues? And how's the port of the newer build coming along?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fjamesr:
Thanks NATF for the help a while back on modifying my PTT long/short links. I have some other questions regarding customization that don't seem to be addressed in this thread or adjustable in AdvConfig:

- Is there anyway I can modify the SoftKey settings and/or the 8 major "buttons" (Email, Messages, Bookmarks, etc.) for the Landscape mode of TF3D?

- Is there anyway I can modify what's displayed in the Home tab of TF3D?

- I like to use my music (mp3's) as my various ringtones for different contacts, however, it seems the only folders that it recognizes for ring tones is Windows/Rings and any My Documents or My Ringtones (Device or Storage Card). I honestly want to keep all my music on my storage card in My Documents/My Music. Is there a way I can indicate the specific folders it looks in for ringtones?

I know this is all little stuff, but I'm just one of those peeps that really likes to have COMPLETE control of all the little bits and pieces...I guess I should get into cooking myself LOL! Thanks again for all the great work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I really like iNav. The new 2009 version will be shipping within 10 days, and it's on my Christmas List ;). $90 gets you iNav on a 4GB SD card, or $100 gets you an 8GB card.

The interface isn't as pretty as TomTom, but it works much better, and has Test-to-Speech.

-Edit- Link: http://www.inavcorp.com/

I went through 5 Tilts... and where did you get the Touch Pro back from? I would be interested to see if the phone still fits in the AT&T rubberized case after replacing it.

TF3D Config is a program that allows you to modify most of the TouchFLO interface. Whatever cannot be modified that way, you would need to locate the Manilla config file on your phone that defines the option(s) you want to modify, copy/edit it from your PC, and then copy it back using a program that can overwrite files in ROM.

For ringtones, there are several registry hacks out there for other WinMo devices to define alternate storage locations, but I have not been able to get any of them to working on the Fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] californiarailroader:
Here ya go NATF :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=455650

Mine shipped out Monday from Expansys, it should be here today or tomorrow. As far as I can tell, Expansys is the ONLY place you can get these from.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aadadams:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1471425

The backs seem identical aside from the coating. I ordered mine through expansys.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] NotATreoFan:
I doubt this is new news to anyone, but I just discovered this... 1 year after I started using PIM Backup... :eek:

First, I only use PIM Backup to export my contacts. I flash my phone an average of 2-3 times a day, and am usually not at home to sync up with Outlook.

I had no idea that PIM Backup also saves custom ringtones assigned to different callers. The reason it took me so long to discover this is because I don't use separate tones for each person. I just tried it this morning on a whim...

</sharing my newb-ish discovery>
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cushcalc:
From http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=166210. Somewhere I got an online coupon for 10£ off on any 20+£ purchase, can't remember where.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] y2whisper:
hahaha yeah i discovered that about 5 months ago after using it for a while. i never backed up contacts cause i have my device synced through exchange and then i stopped bothering with custom tones for contacts since i was flashing so much, until i stumbled on it. For those that sync through outlook you can still use PIM backup just when you are restoring contact choose the third option down (update existing contacts and add new ones) so that no duplicates are made and the ringers are just inserted.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] irus:
TomTom Problem

I am using Tomtom 7.451(vga) and if my screen toggles off or i hit the power button then tomtom won't connect to gps anymore. Excact problem: if i am getting a call or i just toggle the screen off to save battery power then toggle it back on when the phone ends or to see when i need to make a turn then it does not connect. It seems to happen if the screen get toggled off more then once. any thoughts?

Oh. i am using this rom 2.1
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] aadadams:
The coupon/voucher came from here: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1799. They are still available at last check and valid until 12/30/2008. If you want to order, contact Joshua at josh.frost@mobileplanet.com to place it directly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] lynxy:
I just changed the order of touchFLO tabs in advanced config and I lost Messages tab forever.

ROM 2.3

Didn't add or remove any tabs, just changed the order. How to get back messages tab?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yatrg:
Let me add my vote to that. A lot of this is personal preference but I tried Garmin and TomTom and I love my iGuidance. I will be upgrading as soon as it comes out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] vcooke6902:
FM Radio Audio Booster Bluetooth Headset

I have been searching all the forums trying to find an answer to this question. Is there any way to make FM radio, Audio Booster, or any other program that requires the headset to be plugged in to the phone work through a bluetooth headset. My dilema is that I love Bass and I want to be able to use some type of equilizer to increase the bass volume through my a2dp stereo bluetooth headset. Any other music lovers out there?

PS: I want this to work through the bluetooth headset without having to plug in anything to the actual phone...I am willing to accept that it just want work but I thought I saw some registry changes that could be made to make it work. I just can't find it..
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] AvengerBB:
I was scared off by the warning on their site that you need to disable the data connection prior to launch (and then can enable) as well as incompatibility with the HTC GPS that requires you to buy and use GPS Gate.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] toucankiwi:
To my understanding you can't use the FM radio without a wired headset because they use the wire on the headset for the radio antenna.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] wrxdrunkie:
more importantly though, can we use the audio booster? I also would like a reg hack to where I could use the audio booster for my bluetooth stereo headphones.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] garagebandking9:
I've also lost my email tab and soft resets and removing the battery haven't brought it back...wondering if its some sort of bug with the advance config tool and v2.3...I had removed other icons...and they don't return either even after attempting to restore through advanced config...

Any thoughts? Thanks

EDIT: It appears that when you attempt to restore through advance config and press okay...that when you return to the original adv config screen the program crashes...

If you restore settings in advance config and do your own soft reset before returning to the main adv config screen...everything will go back to stock...
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] niftydl:
I had the same problem, hard reset and use the Diamond TouchFlow 3D config utility, don't use Advance config for the tabs. Seems to be a bug, not sure if its rom or utility.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yatrg:
I would guess that they will correct the data problem with the new version. I hope... Although it has not been a big deal just to shut off the data, and then turn it back on. This is only a problem (as far as I know) on the Fuze because I had no problem on my Hermes.

I have it working fine with my Fuze GPS without GPS Gate.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] techman28:
I went to their site and saw this:

It kind of made me nervous about iGuidance, any thoughts?

Edit: Since it says new HTC rom does that mean I wont have a problem, because I am using NATF's rom?

EDIT 2: @ NATF how would you compare it to OCN8? And What did you think of Garmin Mobile XT when you tried it?

Thanks.

Edit 3: Is picking a mobile gps software basically personal preferance? Or does what software you pick also have to do with the gps performance? Or since they are all using the HTC Fuze's GPS chip the performance has to do with the hardware not the Nav map software?

Thanks again, and sorry for all the edits, but I guess its better than double and triple posting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] keeper22:
Naft Just wanted to say thank you. I am new to the HTC world but I have the FUZE set up just perfect thanks to your hard work.

I am torn if I want to upgrade to v.3.0 when you release it because I have this version just right. We will see, maybe the new features will be worth the addition set up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rddcarlos:
Auto Sleep on Calls

is there a way to turn off auto sleep while making a call... i tried to fix it through Diamond Tweak and adv. Config, it says its not active but everytime i make a call the screen goes off... plus i have Throttle Lock so its annoying to have put that code in everytime i make a call... it worked great with NATF's v2.2 rom maybe there something am not seeing... any help with this is greatly appreciated!... Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JoeTheFro:
I found this cab floating around the forums. Seems to have worked for me.

View attachment No_Sleep_Raph.cab
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] eras2r:
That cab works, but for me, it broke the auto-rotate of Opera for some reason. With it installed, Opera takes up to 60 seconds before it rotates. Not sure why.

-e