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[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
Hey Rocky,

Thanks for the update, yes I have heard the 5G works on some of the carriers... if it works on Bell will most likely work on Telus also, which is great, but what about your current Voice phone call communication protocol.

The new standard is VoLTE 4G which apparently is a separate communication protocol using 4G and LTE together in new phones. It is turned on in you Sim card communications, otherwise you are probably using the old 3G for voice calling. I have been told that it is greyed out in the settings for Canadian Carriers (lack of certification with them) and can't be turned on for both Rogers and Bell - or any Canadian Carriers, I've been told, therefore the phone defaults back to 3G which you may be on at the moment... but 3G is going to be discontinued/removed starting Dec 2023.

Can you do me a big favour and double check this on your Vivo X Fold, I think it is in Settings/Mobile Networks (based on your sim card for VoLTE), and see if it is turned on, off, greyed out, inaccessible, not there... or what the deal is, as VoLTE is the current and future standard for voice phone calling and voice communications on Vivo phones in Canada after Dec 2023 will be a big issue if this is not possible.

This a the big issue that is pausing me on purchasing this phone, which leaves me with the narrow front screened Samsung fold 4.... I would appreciate if you can check this out Rocky, and let me know.
[Vivo X Fold] GaresTaylan:
With the latest update I'm now having auto fill issues using bitwarden with either Gboard or Swiftkey.

If my vault is locked and I need to auto fill I used to be able to hit the vault is locked shortcut, authenticate with biometrics and be on my way. Now the shortcut does nothing and I have to switch to bitwarden manually and authenticate.

Tried reinstalling all apps.
[Vivo X Fold] frcraig:
You can connect to 5G on Telus, Bell, and Rogers and you will see the 5G symbol, and you can stream video or download on 5G, but place a voice call and watch the symbol change to 3G. That is because all voice calls use 3G unless you have enabled VoLTE (voice over 4G), but the settings in Mobile Network that allow you to toggle on VoLTE only appear when your carrier enables them for your phone, and the Canadian carriers won't enable VoLTE for Vivo phones. You can still place voice calls in Canada because 3G networks are still up and running (for another two years), but when you can't take your phone with a Canadian SIM into the US and place a voice call because they have shut down their 3G networks. Without VoLTE in the US, you dial out and nothing happens. T-Mobile has enabled VoLTE for these phones on their network, but you would need a T-Mobile SIM for that.
[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
frcraig,

I seen Rocky's post, so I thought I would ask, see what is happening with his phone/service, if it possibly is a different Canadian carrier and service with VoLTE possibly working.... Up till now, it seems there is no VoLTE as you say, so wishful thinking... I know, but ~ 2 K for a phone is a lot and if I end up with the Samsung Fold 4, and later find out there was/is support for the VoLTE, I will not be happy, as I really would like to go with the larger front screen format, but not if the voice phone calling is not going to work here in Canada, in the near future.

I have put out a request through Vivo Care which have forwarded my question about the VoLTE 4G access for Canadian carriers, to the developers... waiting to hear back from them to see what they say, meanwhile the Samsung fold 4 being introduced in 3 days.

By the way, did you try that Bios Code: "*#*#4636#*#*" on the Vivo X Fold dial pad, as it is a universal code to switch that radio on if it is off, or turn off and back on to reset it, maybe it will do something? - I found a video showing this process using the Redmi Note, @ the 5 min time stamp.
[Vivo X Fold] frcraig:
Unfortunately VoLTE is greyed out in the Radio menu (*##4636#*#*). I have tried Telus and Bell SIMs as well as my own Rogers SIM. As a corporate customer I've spoken to Rogers Business Tech Support and they have confirmed that Vivo phones 'have not been certified' for use on their network and therefore they won't enable VoLTE. I have filled a complaint with the CRTC and with Rogers Business.
[Vivo X Fold] invensmaster:
whenever u have a chance can u tell me which build u used from apk mirror. Thanks
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
Hey, I don't see the VoLTE option in the connections menu. frcraig is right, as soon as I place a call my connection drops to 3G. I had the same issue with my Huawei Mate 20X
[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
Well you are well ahead of me with all of this, having the phone already, key information/details, and confirmation from Business Tech support... further than I got, even for an answer with Rogers two days ago.... YES glad to hear you lodged a complaint to both maybe CRTC will force their hand, how they can sell a $$$ expensive phone like that and not have that key VoLTE supported on it, looks real bad on Vivo and the carriers, Ugh! Curious to see what Vivo Care developers are going say when they respond to my email about this from Friday.

Really sad about this, as I guess I am stuck with the Samsung Fold 4 as my best option,

on the plus side, at least the software multi-tasking will be better and get a s-pen, but I really don't like the narrow form factor.

I really appreciate your practical experience, and information on this frcraig, real shame about the lack of VoLTE on this phone in Canada!
[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
Thanks for confirming, thought so, lol, wishful thinking as I really wanted to go for this phone.

Too bad about the VoLTE then... I hope for you owners of this Vivo X Fold, that frcraig's complaint to CRTC and Rogers gets some traction, but I am not going to buy the phone now because of this... unless a VoLTE miracle happens in the next few days.
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
I'll be uploading the july update (full update). Hopefully we should be able to apply the update within the settings local upgrade option.

edit

here's the full upgrade

Google Drive: Sign-in

Access Google Drive with a Google account (for personal use) or Google Workspace account (for business use).

drive.google.com
[Vivo X Fold] Leykis:
Got my Vivo on Friday and been setting it up all weekend. Loving it so far. Just some annoyances with the Chinese bloatware that's on it. Has anyone here been able to successfully create an account to buy themes off the Vivo theme store? If so, how did you do it and which payment option did you use(Alipay or WeChat)?
[Vivo X Fold] ike101692:
Haven't brought any themes but I was able to create a Vivo Account using their website.
[Vivo X Fold] frcraig:
Ironically I have a Huawei Mate 20 X on one of my lines and it shows the HD Calling / VoLTE switch in Mobile Network settings. I bought it in Hong Kong just before Covid began, brought it home and put a Telus SIM card in it and the VoLTE settings appeared. I switched my lines to Rogers and same thing happened when I put the Rogers SIM in - instant VoLTE - and it works as calls don't drop to 3G (my wife proved that to me on a recent trip to New York).
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
That is strange, I will check again with my old phone and get back.
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
One of the best phones ever
[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
That is odd on the VoLTE for you and frcraig,

Yes the Max 20 X looks like an amazing phone and love Huawei's quality. It is too bad with the ban on Google accounts/services. I would have liked to updated my Huawei Note 8 around that time, but that is when the ban started happening and I was still enjoying my Huawei Note 8, so never bothered.

Curious with the Google services ban, do you both still have the Google Services on Huawei Mate X, with the latest Android, I assume you got global version?
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
Its not my daily phone anymore but it's been getting updates and still has Google services. I have the China version.
[Vivo X Fold] wwyjoe:
Hi folks. How to turn off suggested replies in messaging apps such as Whatsapp? For example, when I receive a whatsapp message, the message comes with various suggested replies.

Tried going through Settings in Vivo but can't seem to find the option to turn this off.
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
Wouldn't it be in the app that is doing it? Which keyboard are you using?
[Vivo X Fold] Leykis:
Yeah, I was able to get an account setup, just not able to purchase anything yet off their Theme store.
[Vivo X Fold] wwyjoe:
I had looked for option to turn off in Whatsapp, but didn't see any.

Im using Microsoft SwiftKey.
[Vivo X Fold] Leykis:
I was able to pair my Samsung Active 2 watch with the phone and the Galaxy wearable app works but after my screen shuts off for a while the watch will disconnect from the phone and I don't get any notification on my watch. I have to unlock the phone and then re-connect the watch to the app. What's causing this to keep disconnecting?
[Vivo X Fold] jwilson77:
I’m getting pretty close to selling this phone, sadly. Has anyone figured out how to send and receive MMS messages on Google Fi? Not having this functionality is a huge problem. Gah! I love this phone so much, but I can’t use it without that ability.
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
Have you tried using a different texting app? Maybe try Textra
[Vivo X Fold] jwilson77:
Yeah, I’ve tried Textra, Google Messages, Pulse SMS and the stock messages app. Nothing seems to work. 😔
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
Have you installed the latest update? That seems to have helped some with this issue
[Vivo X Fold] jwilson77:
Yeah, I’m pretty sure I’m on the latest version. I’ll check to make sure, though.

Edit: I am on the latest.
[Vivo X Fold] NeoGoku123:
Is it just me, or has the battery drain gone up significantly with the new update?
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
Gone down for me with the update but I'm also running some unique customizations with root. My battery has increased surprisingly
[Vivo X Fold] NeoGoku123:
Over 70% within 5 hours
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
I also need to stress I’m running custom stuff with mine due to root but I’m guessing because of the aggressive power saving that’s leading to your battery issues
[Vivo X Fold] NeoGoku123:
how or what would I have to change to get a better drain?
[Vivo X Fold] darzy88:
can anyone tell me what version there camera app is showing on latest update i removed the vivo app store a while back and now not sure if this is stopping the camera app from ever updating my camera version is showing as v12.1.15.159
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
I removed vivo.pem and vivo.sps (I believe sps you need root or some convoluted way to get it to work)
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
thats what version i have
[Vivo X Fold] jwilson77:
So, I switched to T-Mobile, via a family plan. I got my SIM card in the mail today and seemed to get everything setup. Texts and SMS work as they should, luckily, using Textra.

However, I have no data. It shows I have data, both upstream and down, in the status bar, but I can't view websites or do anything in any app. I've updated the APN settings listed in a previous post, but they didn't give me data. I have an R15 SIM, so that's not the problem. Any ideas?
[Vivo X Fold] Shawnki91:
Fellow Canadian jumping in on this discussion.

I am with both Rogers and Vidéotron here in Quebec. After the whole Rogers debacle earlier in July, I grabbed a second line with Vidéotron for a song. Both providers give full 5G support in Quebec. Neither provider provisions VoLTE which was disappointing as well. I guess we can conclude that across the board, none of the Canadian providers will provision VoLTE for our device.
[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
Thanks for sharing. Yes VoLTE is dead with Vivo here with Canadian carriers... a real shame!

frcraig (XDA member) has had a lot of experience with trying to get to the bottom of this issue and appreciate him sharing his insight, efforts, and information he has found on this issue with VoLTE on the Vivo's, her on XDA.

Xiaomi Mi Mix Fold 2 with its slim thickness and wide form factor on the other hand is a possible option and apparently we can enable the VoLTE on it, it just doesn't look as durable as the Vivo.
[Vivo X Fold] OrionBG:
Sorry to hear that Canadian operators are still stuck in their ways...

Regarding the durability of the Mix Fold 2... It is a foldable after all. Durability is not much into the formula...

I have had three foldables to date: The Galaxy Fold 2, the Huawei Mate Xs (the best device I have ever owned! Just that Google issue is spoiling everything), and now the Vivo X Fold. I have been very careful with all of them... Those types of phones are just not for ordinary pocket use on the Worksite/Beach...
[Vivo X Fold] Q-Prof:
Well from what I understand, it is Vivo trying to save some money, or not making enough from the Canadian market to warrant licensing it (paying them) with the limited Canadian carriers, who have somewhat a monopoly on cellular service.

Yes very clear that foldables are not the most durable, though from what I have seen so far, looks like the Vivo X Fold is the most solid hardware phone and the Mix 2 from what I have seen, seems a lot more susceptible to damage because of being so thin.... but I may be wrong. I carry my phone in my right cargo pant side pocket, and careful where I take it and I have never had a problem with on my current driver since 2016, so not to worried about me breaking it, although it is always a possibility.

Yes, I hear that about the MateX, shame about the Google ban as you say, as Huawei does make some great phones
[Vivo X Fold] Allografter:
I've had the Mate X, Z Fold 3, Oppo Find N and now this and it is, hands down, the best phone I have ever used. After installing Ad Blocker, debloated via ADB, installing Nova Launcher Prime and getting YouTube Pro with microG working, you wouldn't realise it was a Chinese ROM. In the UK, all network functions are accessible - at least with the Three Network. Only gripes are the size of the selfie camera punch out on the inner screen and the lack of full screen apps drawing underneath the punch holes. If it had a DeX like function - this would have been perfect. As it is, I won't be going back to a slab phone anytime soon ...

The Mix Fold 2 looks stunning but it's thinner and lighter because of the lack of wireless charging, a periscope camera lens and a slightly smaller battery. Also, the lack of an inside camera, albeit rather large on the X fold, is a big turn off since MS Teams is a major requirement for my use and the large screen is perfect for it.
[Vivo X Fold] OrionBG:
I was also using nova prime for a while but ever since finding Total Launcher, all others are dead to me 😁

Attached are my two home screens. I made them very basic but I like it that way. You can customize the hell out of this one and create same really unique themes if you take the time.

...And Yes, I'm a Spiderman fan... Deal with it 🤣😋
[Vivo X Fold] Allografter:
I've used Nova for almost a decade and can't think of using any other 😀

See my home screens below
[Vivo X Fold] OrionBG:
If you like the very small icons on the front screen, it is fine. I just like the outside screen to be as close as possible to a normal phone as I mostly use it folded. I open it only when looking at videos, websites, and other things that would require a bigger screen to be enjoyed.
[Vivo X Fold] Allografter:
Yeah, I've always preferred small icons. I have my DPI set at 1200!
[Vivo X Fold] OrionBG:
Wow! 1200... I have good vision but that is a little bit too much for me... I've set mine at 800...
[Vivo X Fold] wwyjoe:
Could you please share what are the apps you had debloated?
[Vivo X Fold] VA50:
How did you remove the Vivo app store?
[Vivo X Fold] Morb81:
Anyone know how to fix the icon badges not displaying the number of unread messages such as for gmail, whatsapp, etc.. ?

(using nova launcher)
[Vivo X Fold] Pervokur:
I guess it was done with my method

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[Vivo X Fold] Morb81:
I must be stupid or doing something wrong but the pictures i took with my S21 (just the standard one, not ultra) have better picture quality then the ones i take with the vivo x fold?

I thought the vivo x fold camera's are better than the ones that are in the s21?
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
I kind of have to agree with you. My pics turn out OK but not great. My Fold 3 took better in my opinion.
[Vivo X Fold] Matteo G:
Ciao io ho installato whatsapp businnes
[Vivo X Fold] Morb81:
i was hoping i was wrong...

All the yt reviews I see are praising the camera system...
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
I have seen that too. I just ordered the fold 4 so I'm going to see how the cameras are and then decide which to keep
[Vivo X Fold] vkusanagi:
Any way to install microg? I can't install it, it would just stay pending and never complete the installation...
[Vivo X Fold] loizos250:
guys am sorry if that answered before. am planing to buy it but i have to know if android auto works. its necessary for me. thanks in advance
[Vivo X Fold] invensmaster:
Sadly No. I tried everything for it to work but no luck. The only way for it to work is to root then make Android Auto a system app. I have not tried it. But that was the conclusion of all the search I did.
[Vivo X Fold] OrionBG:
1. For disconnecting watch, check if you have put all related apps to High-Performance mode in the battery settings.

2. For Nova Launcher and Icon badges, there was some additional module that needed to be installed from within Nova I think. If not, make sure you have given Nova Launcher, Notification Access.

3. Regarding Photos, I've seen several reviews with comparisons of the Photos from the X Fold and Others, and the X Fold does make quite good ones, especially in low light conditions. Photo quality is subjective so I guess everybody has a different measurement scale...

4. Android Auto does not work as Vivo has some Chinese alternative baked into the ROM that does not function outside of China and is only in Chinese...
[Vivo X Fold] dallas1164:
A lot of good information. Thank you for this!
[Vivo X Fold] shoho80:
anyone got the new update?
[Vivo X Fold] timalpipo:
Not yet, what is the changelog?
[Vivo X Fold] yesso440:
Does any one face a reset in the battery values from high consumption to optimized again every now and then ?

And what's the trigger that does this ?
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
Same question. Also vivo should provide some details on WeChat for updates.

They really don’t which is sad
[Vivo X Fold] shoho80:
i don't know, i did not get it yet. i got this screenshot from vivo chinese forum. just wondering if anyone in here received it. i am digging up their posts to see if there's any information on the changelog for x fold. their forum is kind of bit messy, all X series are gathered in the same forum.
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
Link to the forum ?
[Vivo X Fold] shoho80:
there ya go

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[Vivo X Fold] mezza8512:
Have you removed the inner screen protection, too?
[Vivo X Fold] NeoGoku123:
how do you protect your hinge from dust or similar dangerous things getting in there?how do you protect your hinge from dust or similar dangerous things getting in there?
[Vivo X Fold] Candy_girl2008:
I'm using the original office Vivo X Fold stand case, it cover the hinge, or there are some case on Aliexpress that cover the hinge for the X Fold but it will make the phone too thick
[Vivo X Fold] mikele2016:
Hi

Do you have any issue with the fingerprint and Canadian's bank apps like RBC or National Bank etc. to log in with the fingerprint ? I mean do you need to enter your PIN before in the apps ? Or the fingerprint only work good ? Thanks for your words !
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
No issues with banking apps
[Vivo X Fold] mikele2016:
Hi all of you lucky owner I would like to know if this is easy to select the language when you receive the Vivo X Fold chinese version from Aliexpress or other factory dealers ? or if it boot in chinese only ?
[Vivo X Fold] Shawnki91:
I have had a chance now to try the Fold 4, Vivo X Fold, the Oppo Find N and the Xiaomi Mi Fold 2. Overall, I think hardware wise, the Vivo takes the cake. Software wise, the Xiaomi is much more usable as an English-only device (except the stock keyboard). The build quality is solid and it came with a really nice case in the box. The Oppo offered the least amount of customization, but the small form factor has its place and was really great on a recent trip when space in pockets was tight. I am most disappointed with the Fold 4, as it barely seems different than the Fold 3, which was a lukewarm device for me in the first place. Vivo will gladly be my daily driver.
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
I share similar thoughts. I'm not keeping the fold 4 though if it had root for the US version? Sure.
[Vivo X Fold] audscott:
I received mine from GIZTOP with everything pre-configured in English, including play store. I've received two system updates and nothing has changed.
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
Received an update today
[Vivo X Fold] azim.esmail:
The watch works well? I have a Watch5 Pro, and I've been debating on ordering the Vivo X Fold or Xiaomi Mix Fold 2. I need to know which phone works better with the watch lol.
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
Guys......wifi calling is enabled with this update.... Amazing news
[Vivo X Fold] Allografter:
I haven't received an update nor is one available, either officially or as a trial. Strange
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
You should get an update in 2-3 days, this is an official public version and not a trial version.
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
FYI I had to call my carrier to turn the wifi call feature off and on to enable the HD calling icon and feature from backend and works without any issues now.
[Vivo X Fold] Allografter:
Was this a carrier specific issue? I've had wi-fi calling available since the beginning, in the UK
[Vivo X Fold] domineus:
Can anyone upload the full zip like I have ?

If not I’ll upload the full upgrade once I receive it
[Vivo X Fold] mikele2016:
Cool thanks but Giztop open the box to install the google bloatware lol (!) If some get this phone straight from Ali or Banggood or some I would like to know if there is a language choice on CN version .. Thx !
[Vivo X Fold] RR-99:
I received mine from Giztop too. It was in a factory sealed box and definitely hadn't been opened by them. As I expected, it booted into the language choice screen and I was ready to select English. Not exactly a big deal. But English was already the default selection. I suspect that Vivo produce a batch of an unofficial version for Chinese exporters. Apart from the default setting on the language selector they are just the same.
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
Same here, ingot it from Giztop, was factory sealed with English language and google play pre-installed
[Vivo X Fold] Morb81:
Purchased a Huawei GT 3 today - seems to be working fine, also connects fine.

However - do you guys know how the watch can reconnect automatically towards the huawei software on the phone? (BT connection gets restored automatically but not the Huawei health app - i have to click on connect manually)

Surely there must be something to get this automatically reconnected?
[Vivo X Fold] audscott:
That may be, but please don't call be Shirley.

I had a devil of a time getting my Galaxy gear S3 connected, and after figuring it out (thanks to this forum) the battery life decreased from 4 days to one.

I ended up getting an Amazfit GTR3 which was considerably less cost, connected automatically, reconnects flawlessly and all notification (email/text) and other functions (weather, activity, ect) work great.

I haven't tried he phone part, but I don't want anyone seeing a grown man talking into his sleeve. Damn you **** Tracy!!
[Vivo X Fold] rocky272727:
Apart for the most awaiting voLTE feature in Canada, I have noticed a much stable UI, example the icons are properly spaced with this update and dynamic effects and reduced dpi no longer crashes the stock launcher
[Vivo X Fold] atilcan:
I still didnt get the 17 update :( any way to have it locally?
[Vivo X Fold] Allografter:
I'm still waiting for the update. Wonder what the delay is?