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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
You'll be fine with the 256GB one. It is the 128GB versions that are causing problems, both Exynos and SD. I haven't had ANY issues with mine which is the 512GB SD version.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
To be fair, I did miss not having the microSD card slot. But only a little bit and not for long. I have the 512GB SD version and I have plenty of space left. Even after copying my entire music collection on to it (~170GB).
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
I only miss it when I want to do a clean format and the Sdcard was wonderful for that. However, its not such a big deal, and having files in internal memory means that files are read quickier, which is good.

About battey life, I end up the day with about 20-30% which is nice. I havent had ant issue with batteries for years, in my last 3 or 4 phones. If your phone doesn't last a day there's somethinf wrong with it.

And NO phone nowadays last 2 days. It's like saying your old nokia lasted a week and thus it's better. Yeah, see what your old phone can do and a flagship now can do...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
"In this thread the only ones that are trashing the phone are the ones that doesn't own it and is pissed of with Samsung"

You're entitled to your opinion but you can't change the facts. There are dozens of angry and dissatisfied S22 Ultra owners in this thread alone, not to mention other boards, reviews and tech sites.

How could you make such a false and ridiculous claim?

So let's start from the beginning...

Samsung had serious chipset production issues well before launching the S22 Ultra.

Samsung's mismanaged Exynos 2200 launch is an ominous sign for the Galaxy S22

Samsung's mismanaged Exynos 2200 launch has let rumors of performance and production problems run unchecked.

www.androidauthority.com

There were numerous problems with the SoC. It was revealed Samsung designed the Exynos CPU Core to operate at 1.9GHz but it couldn't get past 1.29 without overheating.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
Actually more like an even dozen that complained about their S22U phone.

Of the 12 pages of comments the majority come from 2 trolls that don't even own the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Well, I didn't see someone giving arguments about why they are not satisfied other than "this phonebis bad". This tells us nothing. I cant remember any post (wont search back now) that isnt complaining about:

A) "this phone is bad". Ok, why?

B) "this phone is bad because samsung removed sdcard/FMradio/3.5 jack." Ok, that's a samsung (and other brands) issues, not S22U alone.

C) "this phone is bad. My phone is exynos." Ok, you might make a case about exynos inneficiency if you want, compared to snapdragon. I grant that. However my last 2 phones were exynos and I had 0 problems with heat, battery or lag. I understand that each owner have their own experince. Maybe someone used it a lot more than me and has battery and lag issues. Fine. It doesn't make it a bad phone, just worse than the sd variant. And I also think its ridiculous to Samsung to sell them at the same price.

Now, look at my kind of arguments and yours and tell me who is ridiculous?

Dont poat links of recirws because i wont read. I can find several good reviews as much as bad for every device. Tellbme why YOU think your phone is bad. Oh wait, you dont own one...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Actually I did, repeatedly...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Oh, look. Another review link. Again, spend 5 minutes on google and youll find several good and bad reviews. The thread is if and why YOU think YOUR S22U is bad. You dont even own the flipping phone.

Idk if iphones are bad, i never had one. I know that I dont like them. Doesnt make them bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
He doesn't even own an S22 Ultra (or any other S22 model). He has a Note 10+ running Android 9. Take what he says with a grain of salt.

I had an iPhone 6S+. It was ok. Not bad, just ok. I had a Windows phone too, which I think are much better than iPhone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
I know. He is just pissed at samsung because they removed his favorite line (note). He doesn't know that the S22U is a successful mixture of S and Note lines.

He just want to complain without good reasons about a phone he doesn't even have. I'm still trying to NOT be able to remove my spen while holding the phone with my left hand.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Steigerelli:
Yes, it's bad. It's supposed to be a Note replacement. The S-pen's on the wrong side and awkward for a right hander. It's thicker and heavier with a larger battery, yet the battery life is worse than my recent previous phones (Note 10+, Note 8 respectively). Despite the larger size, the Micro SD card has been removed. File transfer has been a pain to manage. I've never had to rely solely on internal memory until now, and it's horrible. I find myself constantly looking for more features to remove just to gain battery life. Thank you to the OP, I share your frustration! The camera is an improvement. I at least had to end with something positive.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Exactly.

It's a lame work around but you can use a .5tb OTG flashstick for dirty backups and extra space.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Ok, one more spen side+sdcard complain.

I share your frustration about the sdcard. However, since S21 the sdcard slot has been removed. And all new phones follow this path. Are all of them bad?

Does your phone dies before you can charge it again? It charges very fast, in 30min its about 80%.

About the spen side, do you really strugle to pull it out when holding with your left hand? My hand doesn't cover the bottom of the phone, so what is stopping you from getting it, exactly?

I can see you are a note fan too. I see that the people that's more pissed with it are note users.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] beserker15:
It's because this is the first "Note" phone without the slot haha. Galaxy S users already had one full generation to complain about it so they're less likely to do so this round. The heat/battery thing is going to be the main flaw this generation but it isn't even a Samsung phone design thing. For example if cooling/heatpipes were improved, it would mean less throttling and even more power consumption. Samsung chip manufacturing is a different division and they're the ones that really need to step up their game to compete with TSMC.

My guess is next year they'll move the S-Pen back on the right and have a chip that doesn't have less power consumption.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Steigerelli:
Is it strange that I want my current phone's battery life to match (if not exceed) my previous premium Samsung phones? Unfortunately, it's worse. I'm active and on the go and I'm not able to be away from my phone or sit by a charger. Cudos to you if you have that opportunity. For the last decade the S-pen has been on the right hand side for a reason. To some extent, my grief comes from me being a creature of habit (my friends call me Rainman jokingly). But even as I'm typing, I'm holding the phone with the bottom left corner digging into the palm of my hand. I get it you're coming from the S-series side. I wouldn't have bought this phone without the S-pen, that's how much it's a part of my every day life and helps my businesses flow. I hope Samsung figures this out and we can all go back to having all the features we both want out of the most premium phones on the Android market.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Yes, this makes sense. I'm pissed since they removed FM radio. I bougth a Sony Xperia Z5 because the newest at the time didn't have FM radio. Idk why manufacturers do that (remove features). But it's hardly a phone problem.

I doubt they will change spen location simply because it doesn't affect anything. Really, can someone explain what's the issue here?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Have you tried doing some stuff to try to make your battery last longer? Maybe see what's consuming so much. I have several background apps (aod notify, lock apps, etc.) and i still manage to go through the day easily.

Do you cover the bottom of the phone with your palm?!?? The slightest movement will uncover enough to open space to pull the pen. I mean, if I'm typing and I want to use the pen I will have to change how I hold the phone to write anyway...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Wrong, the S22U has a more robust heat piping than the N10+. However the heat sink is the almost same size and the laws of thermal dynamics come into play. Without a larger heat exchange area the heat dissipation isn't much better.

More power hungry cams, 5G and the that variable refresh rate display that gets so bright pump out lots more waste heat. Add to that the hardware flawed cpu chipset and sprinkle on some cpu cycle sucking scoped storage for good measure🤣 it's not simply a wash with the larger heat producing battery when it nets less SOT than the N10+, it's a disaster.

Meanwhile the silly 1tb SD card uses little energy especially if not writing data. With no SD card you can either use cloud (more battery and heat X2, as you'll need to do it twice to recall it) or a awkward OTG flashstick the will be more inefficient and slower than a V30 SD card.

Adding another 30gm of weight to an already heavy slab is a liability every time you use or drop it.

The case adds even more weight. Reports of the displays cracking are already coming in with the S22U's. No surprise, my N10+'s are always in a Bolt case. Again that extra heat that needs to be heatsinked out raises its hot head with the S22U.

More waste heat and more likely to break in a fall. Still laughing?

Take my thermal challenge and see if you can smoke my cool running N10+'s...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Rubby1025:
Come on man, there's like 100 apps out there to stream your favorite FM channel!

After about 2 months, I don't even have to think about holding my phone with my left hand and quickly pulling the s pen out with my right hand. Different is not necessarily bad - just give it a little time and practice.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] beserker15:
Again, power hungry chip. It's already proven that 8 Gen 1 uses more watts than the 888 that replaced. Power hungry cameras? You're joking right? Having more cameras when not in use uses no power and even when you use them, it's not like all 4 are recording. 5G? The Note 10 has the worse 5G modem that gets improved every generation. Variable refresh rate has nothing to do with brightness. Variable refresh rates consume less power and you can easily adjust the brightness.

None of your argument fits the S21 Ultra before this which also has 4 cameras, 5g, variable refresh, etc and has a better battery life than your beloved Note 10+. The big difference this time, is the chip. That's it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
The streaming needs internet, FM radio doesn't. I know it's no big deal, that's why I don't care anymore. But when it first took place I got frustrated, just like sdcard removal. But I don't ***** about it on newer flagships threads. I'm ok with it.

About the spen, that's exactly my point. Idk how it being on the left side matters, since you HAVE to change hand position to write wit it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
The cams themselves are power hungry, presumably, but their images require more intense processing. That burden comes a price, more energy and heat. Balance... or lack of.

I deliberately chose the 4G version because of the known problems with early and later generations of 5G.

The variable rate displays likely do consume more power but a side by side comparison is difficult at best. The higher the frequency, the more power is used... test it.

What is almost certain is the color rendering index suffers; all variable refresh rate displays are extremely hard to color calibrate throughout their frequency/brightness ranges, a dirty little secret.

Even single refresh rate AMOLED's are difficult to color calibrate. So far the N10+ is still on the top of that pack and until proven otherwise will likely remain there for some time. Across the board variable refresh rate displays have been more problematic. They are inherently more complex; more to go wrong with the firmware and hardware... Murphy's law.

Not buttery smooth but the N10+'s display is proven to be reliable and long lived. This heavily used N10+'s display is still flawless and looks, tests out the same as the new one. Colors are identical. I never use animation on any on my machines so the higher power consumption of 90+hz would only help with scrolling... or games if supported and I played them.

This battery is nearing the end of its serviceable design life. Current estimated capacity of 3600 mAh. Up until 2 months ago it was getting 6%@hr SOT browsing with Brave, that's decreased. It's over a year old now.

30 grams lighter, 1mm thinner... a better display to bezel ratio and it can take the heat. I can stream vids at length in 96F ambient temperatures without additional cooling while keeping the battery temp below 102F and the cores at an average of 108F. Not breaking a sweat and getting the job done. Brightness for vids typically at 40-50%.

These are some of the reasons why this flagship remains so popular... and that silly 1tb data drive capacity. That would come in real handy for those hugh raw and jpeg files the S22U generates...

I need at least 1tb and a SD card makes a more practical storage solution plus provides backup and isolation from the internal memory in the case of mishaps.

Again it's Samsung I got the beef with... no free rides here Sammy or glowing reviews unless you earned it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] beserker15:
You're wrong, cameras themselves do not consume more energy. Each newer chip gets more advanced ISPs which means they can do more processing natively, versus having the main CPU handle the tasks. It's the equivalent of hardware vs software encoding. You don't have to post your own battery stats, as I already mentioned, the S21 Ultra has a better battery life than your Note 10+ and it has all of the features you mentioned.

Also, what are you talking about? The S22U and S21U has some of the best rated screens in the industry. Anandtech didn't do a review of the S22U this year, but mentioned that color accuracy, temperature, gamma on the S21U are all better than the previous generations.

So to you, a good phone has no 5g, no variable refresh rate, crappy camera... BUT SD card, gotta have that SD card. If having a memory card means you aren't using any cloud backups, then that's even more ridiculous considering memory cards can fail without warning. And if you do use cloud backups in addition to memory cards, then you argument about power usage savings from it is void.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
It's weird that they complain about what side the S Pen is on. It is on the left side of the Note 20 Ultra too. Seriously, these are nothing more than whiners.

The Galaxy Note is dead! Long live the Galaxy Note!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] bluefish196:
I think depends when you get the phone.

I got my Note 20 Ultra almost a year after release, now I got the S22 Ultra few months after release and yes, OneUI was buggy, the camera app would randomly lag and it felt like something was dragging down the phone. Even after fully battery optimizations and yes set high performance mode all the time, also I never had a "hot" or heating issue aka throttling.

But now, I have no issues, runs smooth after few system updates.

Always be Sure you clear the cache on the recovery boot after an update also RUN ALWAYS..Good Guardians, Galaxy Booster, which was some like app indexing boost thingy.

Also disable Grammarly on the keyboard, if you have no use, it will slow your typing as runs the whole sentence with the GRAMMARLY AI.

Turn battery optimizationsba and choose restricted with Problem apps.

Hope these tips helps.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
You really believe what salesmen and the news media tell you?

The N10+ cams capture good images... if you can shoot. Biggest improvement on the S22U cam is flare control. It takes more cpu cycles to process larger files from the cam sensors, a lot more. 16mp is the top end practical limit for a sensor this size, 12mp is better... by the way.

Using 4G preserves my cheap unlimited grandfathered data plan🤣

It's acceptably fast, I have no need for cloud storage. Most my data download speeds are limited by the sites themselves not my 4G bandwidth.

The variable rate displays I'm not thrilled with especially when it comes the color cal and power consumption. My display has been completely trouble free it's whole life and remains so. Zero down time for hardware except battery replacements which is normal maintenance.

You'll likely be on your next flagship in a year be it good or just another rerun. I will choose what best serves my mission and ignore the sales/marketing hype.

It will most likely be 2025 before Samsung and Google Android get their lame acts together.

This year is a wash... and hard times are coming.

Straight Brave browser usage... on an old and smaller Li🤣

Ambient temperature 82.6F
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Dude's completely delusional, lol. 12mp is the best camera possible, SDcard is a dealbreaker, 4G is better than 5G, Note is better than S line...

You shouldn't go that much on crack...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Can totally relate to.

5 to 6 hrs of on screen time over Wi-Fi & 4 to 5 hrs over mobile data in 15/16 hrs & 13/14 hrs of total runtime respectively is what I've been consistently getting out of this Snapdragon S22 Ultra post the "AVE4" May build.

Just for a comparison, I have used N number of previous Samsung flagships with way better batterylife on similar settings & usage pattern.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
You see what my stock N10+ is getting (previous post)?

A lot more with a old battery nearing the end of its service life. A new S22U should be able to slaughter this N10+ on battery life... at 64% I still have about 6hr SOT using mobile internet browsing with Brave.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Virgo_Guy:
Samsung made SD8Gen1 is NO power effecient chip + it's not tuned/optimised further by Samsung in the S22 series so far and so is the underwhelming batterylife I believe.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Yeah, it's an issue, apparently. Samsung's initial response to "optimize" was to throttle it. That recieved even more criticism from users.

Like Intel, Qualcomm doesn't always get it right... if at the hardware level there may never be a good fix for it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
I find it amusing how many people are complaining about the battery life. It seems everybody complaining is purposely ignoring that pretty much every modern smart phone has mediocre battery life. That is the price we pay for large displays and ever more powerful CPUs. They also purposely ignore that most (if not all) of us either keep a charger on hand, or have easy access to one; or have a battery pack. I keep a battery pack in my car. It is capable of jumping my car if need be, and also has USB ports for charging mobile devices. It comes in handy when we go camping. And yes, I have used it for both purposes.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ZXR:
Have you directly compared them? The display to glass ratio seems to be identical, the frame is just wider because of the radius. Are about 0,6 mm relevant to mention?

-The N10+ UW-lens has no AF.

-The N10+ main sensor is smaller. The S22u can shoot with shorter exposure times in the same light, has more wide angle and the better stabilization.

-The N10+ has 2x optical "zoom". The S22u has 3x and 10x.

For sure, there are pros and cons for both phones, but some arguments are absurd.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
About 2% more for the display to bezel ratio.

The N10+ has auto focus on all its cams.

The flare control is apperantly better on the S22U, something many seem to not notice. Electronic zoom always sucks, I avoid using it... optical is best. If I do use electronic zoom it be in post processing.

The major issues are with the Snapdragon chipset, lack of expandable storage, SOT and a step backward in form factor... and the endless inept excuses from Apple woke Samsung. WYSIWYG.

What's ram usage look like? Google Android 12 is the other side of this coin. This N10+ is running on Pie, the other 10, which is as high as I'll likely ever upgrade too. No active scoped storage.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Great. Another person who does not own the device chiming in.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] notnoelchannel:
well other people can comment too :)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Sure. It means nothing because you don't own the phone. Therefore, your opinion is not really applicable.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] notnoelchannel:
thanks ! have a nice night :)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
It means nothing if you can't post some screen shots of the S22U in action. Ram usage, how's it handle thermal loading, SOTs; you can see exactly how my N10+ is doing. Can you beat it?

Is that all Sammy's got? Give it your best shot.

No thermal load problems here...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
blackhawk. Although I am open to anyone posting their opinion, it is getting real old how as a non-owner of the S22 line of phones that you continually trash the phone (although you keep saying you are actually going against Samsung) throughout this S22 Ultra forum. You post in multiple threads and your opinion although welcomed, is not welcomed all over and multiple times. I am glad you like your S10 Note. Go on and enjoy it. Although there are people that are having issues with their phone, it is not the majority of the people.

If you want to help users, please do so. To keep saying the same things over and over is not helpful. You made your point long ago. Get over yourself and your note 10 and use the forum to help people with issues they may have and not just tell them to find a different phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ZXR:
Take both in your hand and compare them side by side.

Result for me: screen to glass identical, screen to frame is a very little bit worse because of the radius of the frame. The shape is not cuboid, therfore those written specs cannot cover reality. From my point of view not worth to mention.

Btw., in your link: 90.74 - 89.72 = 1.02 (rounding -> 2% ;))

Nope, the N10+ ultrawide cam has fixed focus.

Absolutely, therefore having 10x and 3x optical is an advantage compared to 2x optical.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
There are four types of people in this thread (and on XDA in general).

1. People bought the S22 Ultra and are having legitimate problems.

2. People who bought the base (8GB/128GB) model of the S22 Ultra expecting to get the same performance as the higher end (12GB/256+GB) models.

3. People who bought the S22 Ultra and are having zero or very few issues.

4. A few attention seeking trolls who didn't buy the S22 Ultra (or any S22 series) and are complaining and believing their opinions are equal to those who actually have the S22 Ultra, then cry victim when their feelings get hurt when they get called out for it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
... site glitching again
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Still has more than 1%, in spite of my bad math🤣

The 16mm cam not a pinhole camera... and be relatively useless without AF as it's a fast lense.

No clue what AF algorithms it uses though and this N10+ is running the earliest cam firmware still. It also shows the AF/AE lock for the 16mm cam not just an AE lock.

Lol, could be more Samsung subterfuge if you're correct.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ZXR:
The sensor of the uw-cam is so tiny, the focal length is so short and the 2.2 apperture ist not that big. The hyperfocal range is wide, the N10+ cam has fixed focus.

The S22u has AF on all lenses, maybe you think this is a disadvantage, I like AF.