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[Magisk] uschipower:
I am just switched from official magisk to Delta magisk because many of my banking apps detect root/modification on my device

just some questions:

- do I have to uninstall official magisk after installation of delta magisk; or should I uninstall official magisk?

- I have alread installed bootloop-protect module from huskydg in official magisk. Do I have remove it before enabling it in delta magisk?

- regarding Hide-my-Apps from Dr-TSNG, is Xpsosed-module compatible with Delta Magisk?

- Is HMA still neccessary in Delta Magsik? I suppose Magisk doesnt only hide root and magisk, but not other apps, right?

- I als read this about SUlist:

Magisk Delta Internal Documentation

Are Xposed-modules like HMA modules which I should enable in Core-only mode before switching to SuList?

Thanks for your help
[Magisk] asripath:
FAQ

Inbuilt in delta...so no need for module

Yes

Depends on your requirements...

Try with magisk hide and if does not work

Try hiding magisk app and

then HMA if needed

Recommended
[Magisk] gpvecchi:
Thanks, but this doesn't answer my question, there's no mention of DP2 in changelogs.
[Magisk] fil3s:
Yes it does
[Magisk] zgfg:
About switching to SuList, read the discussion here, above, from Saturday

LSPosed modules, incl HMA are compatible with Delta and SuList, but for Enforce SuList, all their apps like HMA apk must be checked in the Configure SuList - again, see the posts above

Btw, MagiskHide (the concept, and the need for) is different than HMA. By MagiskHide you hide the Magisk itself - by HMA you hide applications that may give a clue that you have Magisk installed (like, why would you have Magisk app installed if you don't have Magisk, hence you have to hide Magisk app by HMA from some 'banking' app that look if the Magisk app is installed, etc)

And SuList is just MagiskHide - but applied through the whitelist SuList. Ie, Magisk is hidden from all apps except those (few) specifically listed in the SuList

'Normal' MagiskHide (by default in Delta) means the blacklist - it hides only from those apps specifically listed in the MagiskHide list

And MagiskHide is the old concept from Magisk v23-, better for hiding than the (new) DenyList in the official Magisk (actually, DenyList is not for hiding, that's why you additionally need Shamiko for the official Magisk)

But for modules it's the same - just don't use Shamiko in Delta since it's not compatible with MagiskHide (Shamiko is for DenyList).

And some modules like Bootloop protection are built-in - in the Delta app settings you have an option to enable Bootloop protection or not
[Magisk] uschipower:
I have already read the FAQ.

The recommended way, if official magisk is already installed, is to rename delta.apk to zip and install delta with official magisk.

After doing this, I have 2 Icons, official magisk and delta magisk

The FAQ is not saying if

- i should keep both

- if i can / if i should uninstall official magisk absolutely

I know, that is why i am asking, what are your advice (regarding making less trouble)

- use the installed magisk-module

- uninstall module and use inbuild in delta
[Magisk] asripath:
Remove official magisk app and bootloop module
[Magisk] MrFreeze:
Can no longer be started. Ideas?

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Das am häufigsten heruntergeladene Pool-Spiel der Welt

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[Magisk] martyfender:
You could ask on the telegram channel Magiskokoro.
[Magisk] VD171:
Yes.
[Magisk] fil3s:
I first flashed the magisk patched boot.img. didn't work. Flashed delta patched image and root worked.

I wasn't aware until this morning when delta magisk disappeared and asked me to update magisk, installed magisk but zygisk couldn't be enabled. I prefer delta. Waiting for my p6pro to charge so I can dirty flash stock rom.
[Magisk] Lu5ck:
I just updated to Android 13, I can't seem to hide from this

Magisk alpha

t.me

I have a few apps which is very discerning thus will detect root, even when gpay works. Lol.

I tried delta as well but nope.

Anyone got any idea?
[Magisk] Johnny Eng:
I used Magisk Delta and Alpha setup with USFX 2.4.0 v 1.2 mod, shamiko, lsposed, zygisk or riru, magisk hide and sulist but SINGPASS app failed.

I managed to get it work from the following setup:

Official magisk 25.2

Shamiko (126)

Lsposed 1.8.6

USFX 2.4.0 v 1.2

All major banking apps, singpass (v17.1.0) is working properly expect only one Citibank SG.
[Magisk] Lu5ck:
Doesn't work for me, injection still found on magisk detection app and so is the other apps.
[Magisk] uschipower:
it is just a assumption, one page back in this thread:

https://xdaforums.com/t/discussion-...third-party-magisk-fork.4460555/post-88278171

shamiko should be incompatible with Delta Magisk. shamiko would be only for official magisk

official magisk works with a denylist, delta works with allowlist. shamiko would be designed for denylist.
[Magisk] Johnny Eng:
But it works for me especially singpass app haha
[Magisk] uschipower:
now, I spend many hours with Delta Magisk. My first impression: It's much more instable than offical magisk.

I am Using Delta Magisk 25210

Questions:

- What is the intention of the core-only-switch in Settings of Delta Magisk?

It seems that, when enabled this switch, Delta starts with disabled magisk-modules. When makes this sense?

- I have enabled SuList, Hide Magsik and Zygisk, because I am Using LSposed-Modules, and I want to hide root/magisk from banking apps.

When I restart the device by the normal way, the device tries to boot 3 times. Then it starts into recovery. When I restart to system from TWRP, Device starts, zygisk is disabled, all magisk-modules disabled. Is this normal?

- Does Aurora-Services https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraServices/-/releases for AuroraStore work for you?

- There is a switch in settings "Core-only", and there is also a Restart-function "Restart in Core-only". The result when device is restarted is different. Is this normal?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Core only mode disables all modules.

That's exactly useful when switching (first time) to SuList (it was to me), before you configure the SuList.

I will avoid repeating how and why, the other users commented (posted instructions) by the end of last week

And maybe you had that bootloop if you switched to SuList but you didn't put yet your LSPosed apps into the SuList (and you booted with LSposed enabled)

Regarding the stability - I switched long ago my daily driver, from official Canary to Delta Canary (and my spare phone the opposite way, from Delta to official), since I concluded over the months (on my spare phone) that Delta is generally good

Besides, there were never regression bugs in Delta Canary like with those last two versions with official Canary (25210 Canary - systemless modules do not work, 25209 patching the stock boot.img does not work)

And even if there were issues with the new Delta release, the developer promptly pushed an upgrade with the fix (not like with the official Canary where now, after 10 days, many users seek how to download and downgrade themselves to the older 25206 or 25209)

My two cents
[Magisk] m0han:
@zgfg has answered reg. 'the intention of the core-only-switch in Settings of Delta Magisk'.

IMHO, it does make the stated/implied sense if Zygote process fails to start many times (which is a behind-the-scenes thing, I suppose).

This has been happening to me regularly - which is annoying, to say the least. These days, I'm forced to do as follows: Boot into TWRP recovery, instead of attempting a normal Restart. Boot back up, go into Magisk settings and enable MagiskHide which is always found disabled in such situations. Then go to the modules tab and enable all the modules. Again reboot into TWRP and restart the device. This is just too much, actually.

Wonder if @huskydg is aware of this, and/or it's just a handful of unlucky users with this issue.
[Magisk] uschipower:
You describe exactly what happen to me.

That's why I said "unstable".

Just checked it again. All Xposed-Apps are on SuList.

Some questions:

- You wrote LSposed enabled. How do I disable/enable LSposed itself?

- Because guide and FAQ for Delta doesnt say something about handling enabling/disabling Xposed-Modules:

I switch on and switch of Xposed-Modules all the time. How do I handle this regarding Core-only-Mode?

Do I have to to reboot in Core-only-Mode each time when I enable/disable a Xposed-Module, or only after Installing?

- I have also installed Shizuku https://shizuku.rikka.app/ . Is Shizuku also compatible with Delta Magisk?

Perhaps if it is something special at me:

My Device: Samsung SM-T550

Android 11

On these devices, although the CPU is 64bit, android-OS run in 32bit --> armeabi-v7a
[Magisk] m0han:
Continuing on my previous post....

..... Again reboot into TWRP and restart the device...., at which point, things get to be - and remain - fine, until the next update of Delta and/or modules. I'd say 'unstable' only if things go wrong without my 'fiddling'.

My device is Poco X3 Karna (ARM64) running AICP Android 12.1 of 10th March, rooted with Magisk Delta c28c6e7c (25210).
[Magisk] amk316:
FYI

since some apps started dedicating zygisk injection and no solution on the horizon. i started using disable magisk on the reboot button and my apps started to work.
[Magisk] Roidred:
citi added new location detection which are mirrored in delta. so for citi you need delta. 16.2 sp works with some service disabled using app manager. using delta now with su list.

no success with sp 17 as of now. will find a way if they force update to v17
[Magisk] first_damned:
Will magisk delta stable survive lineage 20 ota update on twrp? When it downloads and reboots to install automatically?
[Magisk] casouzaj:
In my Xperia XZ2, I performed its OTA update two releases ago. It was flawless. Nevertheless, latest build ended up with my phone booting to recovery. I had to dirty- sideload its zip file, in order to have my phone running again. So, I guess it's a random process.
[Magisk] pndwal:
Seems some may have Citi working with standard Magisk by removing (or renaming) TWRP directory:

👀 PW
[Magisk] Johnny Eng:
Ha

Haha but that didn't work for me , i terminate the accounts lol
[Magisk] Johnny Eng:
Because citibank can't even use web based to login for now and only app. No point haha
[Magisk] HippoMan:
I've had some issues with them for years, and I've been calling them "Sh*ttybank" for a long time. I can see that they are still living up to their name.
[Magisk] Johnny Eng:
Hahahaha the only app that I failed to bypass so far.
[Magisk] Johnny Eng:
@HippoMan
[Magisk] amk316:
7830c57a-delta bootloop my galaxy S20

any idea why?
[Magisk] m0han:
The current latest might help you boot the device.
[Magisk] flobo09:
Did anyone succeed in rooting a Pixel 6 with A14 DP2.

I tried a few time but it always bootloop with the latest canaries.
[Magisk] gpvecchi:
If this helps, with Android 14 DP2 on Pixel 7 Pro, the fingerprint unlock is missing after reboot, but it works in apps.

If you flash a module with Magisk Delta, fingerprint will perfectly work at next reboot.
[Magisk] krakout:
Been using Delta on my Pixel 7 Pro for a few weeks and loving it!

Up to now I flash every beta release with Pixel Flasher, but I was wondering (new beta just dropped), if I update OTA and install Magisk to inactive slot, will it be the same? Will it be ok?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Search in the Magisk general thread and PixelFlasher about the inactive slot - on some devices (and how/where) it is not bootable

Btw, you can first test yourself does it boot - if not, switch back in Fastboot to the bootable slot
[Magisk] krakout:
Was not aware that some devices cannot boot from inactive but indeed switching slots is trivial.

I did ask in the Flasher thread first, it was suggested to post here😀

Thanks for your reply! I may try it with the new beta if I get the time, if I do I'll report here.
[Magisk] Lughnasadh:
Updating via the "Install to Inactive Slot" method is hit or miss on the Pixel 7s (and 6s).

As far as booting the inactive slot, the only slot that will boot is the one you last flashed your firmware to. If you are updating via OTA then it's putting the new firmware on the inactive slot (making it the new active slot), so of course it would boot (assuming everything else is good).
[Magisk] _litz:
Question - I've seen a few things about Canary having a bug that breaks (I believe) fs overlays (e.g. adaway's hostfile mods), and with the latest Delta build I'm getting ads ... is this expected, or is there a workaround ?

(sulist, I might add, is freakin' genius. So much easier to manage.)
[Magisk] krakout:
Thanks for the Pixel tip: I guess I won't be trying it 🙂

Regarding the rest, that's how A/B slots traditionally work, no?
[Magisk] Lughnasadh:
No problem.

On "newer" Pixels, yes.
[Magisk] amk316:
if i want to flash disabler.zip and i don't have twrp, is there an alternative way to do that?
[Magisk] HippoMan:
Has anyone gotten Magisk Delta to work under microg?

I don't care about integrity checks, SafetyNet, app hiding, banking apps, or anything like that. I just want reliable root under microg, and I'm wondering whether anyone is already successfully using Magisk Delta for that purpose under microg.

I've already searched this thread and didn't find an answer to this question, but please forgive me if I might have overlooked something.

Thank you in advance.
[Magisk] cyclonemon:
Same me, only app "sh*ttybank" detected magisk delta.

now I still can't find a solution.
[Magisk] Roidred:
Only Delta hides citi in my experience. i switched to delta for citi. Did you rename any file with name magisk in the internal storage ? it checks file name with magisk.
[Magisk] cyclonemon:
Citi app for me don't alert that root detected but when logging in to the app, it freezes.

I try doing all methods but failed.

rename any files that contain word "magisk" still doesn't passed.
[Magisk] NippleSauce:
Hey. The latest Delta build states not to use overlayfs at the moment (but I'm not sure if AdAway does). But, what websites are you still seeing ads on? I am on the run and can't search around for a site that normally has ads right now - but I am also running the March update with AdAway and the latest Delta build. Shoot me a PM with a link and I'll let you know if I see any ads =).
[Magisk] m0han:
https://xdaforums.com/t/app-2-2-mix...y-featured-file-manager.1523691/post-88227647

Try file hosting sites like uploadrar dot com, devuploads dot com etc...
[Magisk] NippleSauce:
Gotcha. Welp, thus far there are no ads for me on those sites.

@_litz You might have an issue with your root access. Perhaps your AdAway isn't set up properly? I know that on almost all A13 builds, AdAway hosts sources sometimes do not apply after the initial setup until you click into each of them, click the checkmark at the top-right corner and then press apply on the "Your configuration has changed" message. That is what has resolved such an issue for me in the past.

But currently, my AdAway is still working fine with the A13 March update, the latest Magisk Delta Canary build and patched init_boot.
[Magisk] krakout:
Anyone tried Delta with today's release of qrp3 on pixel? Can it root?
[Magisk] m0han:
I just did the 'individual thing' as you suggested. What's to be done with 'redirection'(?), i.e., clicking on those sites taking one to pr0n sites?
[Magisk] mad4some:
Just starting out with Delta.....I'm on 25210 build and would like to confirm that this should eliminate the "enable zygisk = bootloop" problem, correct? Using on P7Pro, thanks.
[Magisk] krakout:
Here's my info on P7P

Installed 7981f732-delta (25210)

Zygisk Yes

Ramdisk Yes

No bootloops, but I also have protection on
[Magisk] uschipower:
Yes, I also startet with 25210. In the meantime, the device has shown ~2 times at the startpage at "magisk" and "app" that there would be an update which i installed.

The version-number didnt changed.

After that, the bootloops seemed disappeared.

--------------------------------------------------------

My problem:

Delta Magisk still comes in conflict with Aurora-Services, the background installer of AuroraStore

Releases · Aurora OSS / Aurora Services · GitLab

Service provider for Aurora Store

gitlab.com

When Aurora tries to install something (doent matter new app or update) using AuroraServices, after a short time there is a message saying that the services have crushed several times.

I tried it with the Magisk + Custom recovery version, and also with magisk-only version because they are released by different developer.

It always the same result.

When I get back from Delta Magisk to Offical Magisk, the AuroraServices worked immediately without further doing.

I could reproduce the same behaviour on a second device for testing.

My Device:

Lenovo Tab tb x505f

Android 10 StockRom

Edit:

It also makes no difference if AuroraStore + AuroraServices are un SuList or not.
[Magisk] _litz:
Nothing wrong with my root, this is a stock p7p, with systemless hosts and AdAway. Same exact setup as vanilla Magisk.

AdAway is working for some things, but is clearly not for these URLs as there is ad spew all over the pages. These are blocked with vanilla Magisk.

Try:

The Coolest Ways To Use NFC On Your Android Phone - SlashGear

All it takes is a tap of your smartphone to take more control over daily tasks. These are the coolest ways to use NFC on your Android phone.

www.slashgear.com

or

Ukraine’s BTR-4 Wheeled Fighting Vehicles Are Wreaking Havoc In Bakhmut—And Taking Heavy Losses

These six-wheel BTR-4s are fast, flexible and—with their stabilized 30-millimeter autocannons and Barrier anti-tank missiles—hard-hitting. Especially when they operate alongside well-led infantry.

www.forbes.com
[Magisk] huskydg:
The old version and source code will be posted here:

Releases · HuskyDG/magisk-files

Contribute to HuskyDG/magisk-files development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com
[Magisk] _litz:
"old version" ... versus ?
[Magisk] zgfg:
Sorry if I misunderstood your question

On the two pages you gave, I see no ads - I see,as usually, blank portions in the text, where supposedly ads should fit

And I have also Delta and AdAway. However, AdAway blocks ads pushed only from those hosts that are listed in its Blacklist

AdAway comes only with three hosts sources (blocking relatively a small number of hosts)

But there are tons of hosts sources available on the Net, they usually describe what kind of hosts they block

Hence the user has to search on the Net (or read what was eg previously discussed on XDA, but in the AdAway thread) and ad more hosts sources to his Hosts sources list in AdAway, to achieve that AdAway can block more
[Magisk] krakout:
Exactly the same for me.
[Magisk] _litz:
I have several... large... hosts lists in AdAway.

I've read the AdAway threads, that's where I got the lists I currently have.

Which ones are you using, since evidently yours work better than mine ...
[Magisk] zgfg:
Attached is my AdAway backup JSON file, but this is really off-topic here

Of course, when you change the configuration (extend the hosts sources list) you must make sure that AdAway updates the full hosts sources list. Eg, if you have 12 hosts sources in the list, it must show that all 12 are up-to-date

And after that you must REBOOT - that is a must, due to the use of the systemless hosts file
[Magisk] _litz:
Sorry to say, still getting ads.

I'm not a newbie here, I've been using Android since the Thunderbolt.

With your JSON, applied exactly as instructed, still getting ads.

YouTube Music begins rolling out song and album credits

YouTube Music is now adding a long overdue function with the ability to check song and album credits when listening to your favorite music.

9to5google.com

Ads all over it.

I don't get it, there's nothing wrong with the setup, according to everything I've read on this.
[Magisk] m0han:
+1
[Magisk] zgfg:
Then I don't know. Ask if somebody can help you in the AdAway thread
[Magisk] zgfg:
Is there maybe anybody here who uses Magisk Delta and ReVanced Extended Magisk module from:

GitHub - NoName-exe/revanced-extended: ReVanced eXtended YT and YT-M for both root and non-root users.

ReVanced eXtended YT and YT-M for both root and non-root users. - NoName-exe/revanced-extended

github.com

I cannot make it to work - however, another ReVanced (but not Extended) module works fine for me:

GitHub - j-hc/revanced-magisk-module: Extensive ReVanced builder. Builds both modules and APKs. Updated daily.

Extensive ReVanced builder. Builds both modules and APKs. Updated daily. - j-hc/revanced-magisk-module

github.com

(However, there is the substantial difference how and where the two modules install YT and the patches)

And I have another phone (different Xiaomi model and MIUI version), with Magisk Canary 25209, where both modules work fine

To avoid duplicating, I put more analysis in the ReVanced thread:

https://xdaforums.com/t/revanced-revanced-extended-guides-useful-links.4523967/post-88296967

NB

To be honest, there are not many differences between Extended or not, and both provide the most important patches like blocking ads and playing in the background or with the locked screen

However, Extended module is a little bit ahead, patching a few weeks newer YT version (almost the latest)
[Magisk] zgfg:
By use of SuList Auto-Whitelist module I got com.google.android.youtube listed in the SuList

and now pm correctly finds the package:

pm path com.google.android.youtube

package:/system/priv-app/youtube/base.apk

Seems that module's service.sh script works now - I do have ReVanced Extended YT app and it works

Edit:

At the end no success with that NoName-exe ReVanced Extended module on Magisk Delta with SuList, after reboot I had bootloop and lost the patched YT

I returned to the j-hc ReVanced module that installs (patched YT to Data, not to /system/priv-app) with no troubles
[Magisk] Spartacus500:
@huskydg

I have a Samsung S7 9.0 Pie with official Magisk, unfortunately the new bank versions detect root, I would like to check Magisk Delta if it will solve these problems. How to perform Magisk Delta Canary installations correctly with Magisk official version ? And one more question, how to uninstall Magisk Delta root completely if I wanted to go back to the official version of Magisk ? There is a magisk delta uninstall file ? Can the same file be used to remove the official version of Magisk ?
[Magisk] huskydg:
But Android 9 is not good
[Magisk] Spartacus500:
Why not 🤔
[Magisk] m0han:
Maybe he meant Magisk Delta and Android 9 don't go well together.
[Magisk] NippleSauce:
No ads on either of those pages for me. So, something is either messed up with your root access or AdAway configuration. I, however, am only using the three default hosts sources in my AdAway setup and didn't add any other hosts sources.

Perhaps going through your rooting process steps can help to resolve the problem? For example, are you using direct install within Delta or Magisk? For a while now, doing that has not worked as it patches your boot.img instead of your init_boot.img. Perhaps the use of sulist is causing the issue that you are facing - as I am not utilizing that feature. I am only using zygisk, bootloop protection and hide.

Anyway, if you write out the steps taken then we can see if there were any missteps and can chime in to help =). If it was all correct, then perhaps we'll be stumped...but it always helps to work together. Teamwork makes the dreamwork - as the old saying goes =D
[Magisk] krakout:
Hello! I'm getting errors in the log and I wanted to revert from canary to stable on my P7P. However, when I hit update, I get an "error downloading file".

Any ideas?

Update: ah, unhiding it allowed the download, but updating the app fails? It just closes, next I open it, it's still canary and prompts me to update...
[Magisk] krakout:
After all I ended up uninstalling canary and manually installing stable. However the same errors as in my screenshot persist, anyone has got an idea about them?
[Magisk] huskydg:
It's harmless error. Maybe your device is 64bit only, because it tried to extract magisk32 but failed
[Magisk] krakout:
Ah yes, then, that must be it. P7P, 64 bit indeed. Thanks!

I actually downgraded because of these errors, I guess I can go back to canary then 😊