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[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Hey!

Yeah, I saw your post. I also answered there, as well.

I wouldn't have brought up the topic of custom ROMs. Cause usually the Motorola Community is not gonna discuss that. But since this issue also occurs with the stock ROM, I guess the message is still valid.

So, in my opinion, there could be a couple of things here:

1. hardware issue (digitiser probably). But...that wouldn't explain why, after factory resetting the phone, it works fine for a while...

2. software issue (bug)

If it's the second one, we just need to know whether or not it's been fixed. If it has...then it means that, probably...we're using older sources. So, if that's the case, I think Raghu Varma might need to make some updates on the sources he's using.

BUT, if this is indeed the case, and he's using the exact same sources he always had...then why didn't this issue occur with the first build? Or...has it? Cause I don't remember you mentioning anything about that. So...either this coincidentally started with the second build...or there is something different.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Yeah first of all i am so sorry i mentioned about Custom Rom on the community tab... I am deeply sorry should i delete it or edit it ?

Another thing is yes the issue happened in the first build as well didn't you remember me mentioning all those lags and stutters ? It's just i didn't got a chance to record the screen ....

And lastly I remembered something...!!!!! So I saw that Raghu Verma credited PE team for base rom and Motorola for the base Kernal .. so there it is .. this answers out question probably.. as u said that we might be using some old sources then could it be this Motorola kernel ? Which may be why this happens in stock as well as this Rom ?

UPDATE: i edited my post there u can do yours as well on the Motorola community
[Moto G40 / G60] Aravind842:
Yes its my primary device. Don't know what to do further !
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Yeah, I think it might be. But...it's still weird, cause he said he doesn't have this issue. So...why does it only affect certain phones? It makes no sense.

And yes, I remember you mentioned lags and stutters. But I thought you meant stutters in the animations. As in they're not smooth enough. This is a totally different issue altogether. And I thought you are interacting with the screen, not that it's doing that all by itself. :)) OMG, I'm so sorry I missed this.

Ok, so in your case, this was always an issue. And if I'm not mistaken, going back to stock will not fix the issue.

In fact, I have the feeling that this ROM is not replacing the entire stock ROM. I think it's taking some parts from stock ROM (which is why you encounter the same issue).

I'm curious if this also occurs with stock Android 11.... Cause, if not...you could do something. :D It's wild, but...it might just work.

So hear me out. :)

IF (and there's a reason why this is in capital letters; it's a big IF) this does not occur with Android 11, and IF this ROM takes some parts of the stock ROM...you could, in theory, flash stock Android 11, test, see if the issue occurs with Android 11, then flash this ROM on top of it.

This is only a theory. But...it might just work.

Because, coincidence or not, people on the Motorola Community started complaining about this issue starting with Android 12. It could be only a coincidence. Or it could be an actual issue with Android 12, Indian version.

So...if that's the case, downgrading to Android 11 should fix the issue.

Obviously, you can only do this with an unlocked bootloader. Which makes your device perfect for testing.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Well now let me open up the bucket of magic for you Arsradu 😂😂😂 you know me so well YES !!! AND SPOILER ALERT YOY MISSED ANOTHER THING AS WELL --- i always felt that this ROM only replaced certain part of the phone REMEMBER WHEN I CONSTANTLY ASKED YOU HOW TO WIPE SYSTEM PARTITION AS I DONT WANT ANYTHING TO BE LEFT??? yes I asked that time because of this only and before u said it now i already tried Android 11 based rom Lineage OS months back and yeah i don't remember having those issues although the UI was boring and bad with some micro stutters so i flashed back the PE ROM ....... It's so amazing to see how the dots are getting connected now and how you are now connecting everything what i used to say months back 😂😂😂😂😂
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Me too bro but i can just suggest one thing ..... Let's go back to the Android 11 Rom and try if anything helps .... But as far as i remember when my phone came in the beginning it was perfectly fine but after some time the lags started appearing (not ghost touch though) but just UI lags and i think it was fixed with a factory reset ....
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Also as far as i remember when my phone came in the beginning it was perfectly fine but after some time the lags started appearing (not ghost touch though) but just UI lags and i think it was fixed with a factory reset ....
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Then it looks like it could be an issue only with Android 12...and, weirdly enough, only with certain devices...

But, if I'm correct, and if this issue started indeed with Android 12, it should be possible to just revert back to stock Android 11, then...flash this ROM and hope it will retain the good parts of Android 11 while giving you the goodies of PE ROM and Android 13.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Damn gotta try this out ... You're a genius..!!!! But how to get Android 11 Stock ROM file ? Rescue assistant? But it only gives the latest firmware right?
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Yeah, unfortunately we can't use LMSA in this case. So remember the alternative method with using the script, and the commands from the flashfile.xml?

That's the method we're gonna use here.

Carefully! The commands could be similar, but they're not always identical. For example the amount of sparsechunk files can be different from one Android version to the other, or from one region to the other. So, if you try to flash 10 files, for example, where there are only 9 available, you'll most likely get a "file not found" error. It's not a big issue, since the other 9 were flashed successfully, but I'm just saying, so you don't freak out thinking something is wrong and you have to do it all over again.

So, my advice: just take your time and make sure the script you're gonna use is correct for the ROM you're gonna flash.

Anyway, so back to the ROM. You can use the mirros.lolinet.com site. You have the G40F or the G60? I don't remember.

Anyway, if you have the G40F (XT2147-1), you should probably get this ROM (latest Android 11). If you use the G60 (XT2135-2), you should get this one instead (also latest Android 11).

The rest of the process is identical for both.
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
1) What does the command "fastboot -w" do?

I had the previous BETA build installed on my phone, I followed all the steps mentioned.

fastboot -w

fastboot erase userdata

Is this a installation method for a clean flash or dirty flash? I think I should have did advance wipe in twrp before flashing the stable android 13.0.0_r13 build.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
fastboot -w wipes userdata ....... Well to be honest I did advance wipe countless number of times and in my case it didn't help at all... What your concern btw ? You said that your device was running flawlessly right?
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
if "fastboot -w" wipes userdata than what does "fastboot erase userdata" do?

My concern is the custom rom is installed on active slot B and not A.

It doesn't make alot of difference but it matters to me, I just feel I did it the wrong way. I guess I'll just reflash it so custom rom is on active slot A, just like you did.

Device is running flawless, no issues. I just wanted to do a proper clean flash.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Happens with me as well... Turns out it just flashes in the slot which was inactive so now when you'll reflash it'll flash in Slot A..... You can do it but just to be sure i don't recommend already we're facing a lot of weird issues and you don't wanna risk anything ... If the device is working flawlessly then don't reflash .....
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Can you see a "Untill 1:30..." At the top extreme right of status bar ? How to turn it off and what is it?... Picture attached below for reference....
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
I feel it's the battery life estimate, not sure how to turn it off
[Moto G40 / G60] Aravind842:
I didn't experience any lag in the previous beta build of pixel experience. Only in this one. Actually I'm planning to flash the ported Evolution X rom on G60. Can i ask you something? Is the steps same as flashing ported rom and custom rom?
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
i also believe Ported Roms process of installation will be different...But first tell how did you find evolution x for Moto G60: though? I don't seem to find anything about it
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
I think we're talking about GSIs. And...in my experience, the process can be different. So my advice would be simply following the instructions for each case. They should be published on the first page of that thread. If they're not, you can simply ask the developer to confirm the preferred installation method.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Hi Arsradu thanks for clarification.. i hope this will help him... But i am still confused how did he manage to find Evolution X ported rom for our phone as i don't seem to find any other rom for our phone
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
We did have Evolution X for the G60. Seems to be gone now. I guess the link might still be available somewhere. But yeah, it’s been removed from this section.
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Hello,

According to fastboot help (you can type "fastboot --help" in Cmd Prompt/Terminal for more info), the -w parameter wipes userdata. The erase command erases the data on a specific partition. It can be done on userdata, or other partitions.

What's the difference between wiping and erasing? Here's a page that might help understand the two concepts.
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
You can try this fix linked here.

But wouldn't recommend it.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Thank you so much for taking out time and searching this up for me .... And yeah I also think disabling DEVICE HEALTH SERVICES isn't a good decision.....☺️☺️
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
Your welcome AVI.

Can I know the reason why you want to turn it off?

Edit: I like your profile picture tbh. :)
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Haha thank you so much that's my cat.... Well there's not particular reason in turning it off I was just curious... It's not a big deal though...

You uploaded a profile picture as well.. Nice profile picture makes the thread so lively it actually feels that there are people here ...
[Moto G40 / G60] AddictedA1:
does gpay on pixel experience ?
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
web, yes, contactless, no
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Yup works flawlessly....
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
that's a cute cat.

I created a new account, sorry didn't really bothered to upload a picture.
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
I wish Raghu Varma and the Pixel Experience team together would develope an official custom rom for this device with all the features working flawless.

Features like:

Moto Gestures (without the Moto app)

Contactless Payments

Android Auto

A modded Google Camera to capture slow-mo videos

Now Playing (that detect music playing in the surrounding)

Vibration control

Adaptive Charging

Call screen

Motion Mode

face/photo unblur

Magic Eraser

New gestures like quick tap

3 Finger swipe for screenshot
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Ahhh it's okay why say sorry to me ... Few months back i also joined XDA like literally i think like back in August or September and now here I am .....
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Yeah i wish that too and i wanted that NOW PLAYING feature so bad.. but it was not here but i have a workaround for that and it works flawlessly....
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
What is the workaround for it?
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
An open source app is there developed by a wonderful developer that is hands down the SAME THING and I mean it THE SAME THING ... But the only limitations are the database of the songs isn't that big like Google but it's workable
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Can we create a seperate telegram group with us? Like everytime I want to talk casually here about different kind of stuffs about our lives or anything but then i refrain myself from doing so as i think this place is probably not meant for chit-chat..... So?????????
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
I'm down for that but I would prefer texting you on telegram personally rather a telegram group unless if there are more textrovert people like me/us.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Hmmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔
[Moto G40 / G60] Pixel<3:
sorry that's what my thoughts
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
I understand...no worries
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Guys i cant believe Motorola finally gave a response on their community forum regarding their ghost touch issue and have told to go to service centres now.... But our warranty is over right???
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Yes. And even if it wasn't...I'm not sure they would be able or willing to fix it. Other people have already tried that and came back to say the problem hasn't been fixed. Basically they got the answer that it's a software issue and Motorola needs to fix it.

Well, if it's a software issue (and I'm not saying that it is or it isn't), looks like Motorola hasn't figured it out yet. So...you COULD try to send it for repair. But don't expect miracles. And be prepared to be asked to pay for the repair.

Also, keep in mind that, if this is a hardware issue, the "new" hardware could still have this issue. Same for software. So...you might be asked to pay for a repair which will not fix the issue.

Until we know for sure if this is hardware or software, in my opinion, there's no point to send your phone for repair. Also, I hate service centres. Because they would do anything in their power to blame it on you, so they can get your device out of warranty so you have to pay for the repair. Assuming they will be willing to do the repair in the first place. I had service centers which simply ignored my offer to pay for the repair, they just got the product out of warranty (it was indeed my mistake and the reason why the product was broken, I was not expecting them to do it for free!). But what I was expecting is better communication and proactivity. I didn't go there hoping to get a free repair. I was willing to pay for the repair. In fact, I would have done it at home if I had the replacement part I needed. In the end, I managed to get a compatible part, adapt it to that product and I got it working by myself, at home. It's still working perfectly. But this is an example and the reason why I hate service centres. I prefer to do it myself.

This way:

1. I learn something new

2. I save time and money on shipping the product back and forth

3. I save my neurones from having to interact with this kind of people.

I'm sorry I have to say this. There are awesome technicians out there. But at least for the people I met over the years, I do not recommend service centers. Every time I wanted to send something for repair (even something that was NOT broken by me in any way), they still refused to do the repair, saying that I broke it. FFS! And it was just about two plastic parts coming off because they weren't glued in properly!

Anyway, it's your choice. And you could at least go there and ask: can you please, fix this? Is it a known issue? Will it be covered by warranty even if my warranty expired? If not, how much am I expected to pay? What are the chances of this actually fixing the issue? And if the issue is not fixed, am I allowed to bring the product back for repair?

That's how I would do it. But I would probably not do it in the first place, and just choose to fix it myself, if I can.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Damn looks like you've had a terrible experience with service centres.... I must say i got excited for second but then i also don't have a good experience with service centres and i special i am in India and you don't know how bad service centres and staffs are here.... And honestly the Ghost touch issue occurs occasionally now and i am kind of not worrying about it anymore and apart from that the device is absolutely running flawless.. like considering how bad and laggy the UI was on stock rom this is heaven and the battery life my god!!!! In first build i had terrible battery life but now i easily get 2 days and the stand by time is insane !!! So I'll not get into all this... No use for me
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Yeah, also, one more thing: you won't be able to bring the device to a service center running custom ROMs. :) Even if the problem is hardware, not software.

So...you would need to first go back to Stock ROM, erase all your user data (standard procedure over here), then send it (or bring it to them) aaand...HOPE they can fix it...on their own time.

So...yeah, to me, it's not worth it. Not worth the time, not worth the stress. And I don't want another technician to tell me they're not gonna do the repair cause I spilled soy sauce on the back of my phone, and now it smells Chinese. :))

It's obviously just a joke. But I'm just saying, I'm tired of these people blaming everything on the customer. Cause then, what's the point of having a warranty in the first place, if nothing you actually need is covered by that warranty?

And in fact, this exact idea inspired one of my topics in the Motorola Community, called "do you need a warranty"?

Now, on the opposite side, there are indeed customers who would brake their device and then claim it actually came like that. So...I somewhat understand this. And it depends from one person to the other. But, at least for what I'm concerned, I just couldn't feel good about myself knowing that I broke my device, and then ask the manufacturer to fix it under warranty. I just wouldn't feel right doing that. If I broke it, I'm willing to pay for the repair. But if it really broke under normal conditions, cause it wasn't properly done from the beginning, then please, don't blame it on me.

I had a SONY Z3 Compact one time. Awesome phone for that time. But it had a really big issue: the screen would come unglued after a while. I think there are a lot of people complaining about it on the internet. And they actually replaced the screen twice if I remember correctly, and I didn't have to pay for the repair. Well, it wasn't my fault. But I'm just saying, there are also exceptions to this.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
So what phones do u use apart from Moto G60... Just asking ..only if you feel okay sharing 👀
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Sure! :) Right now, I've got an iPhone 12 as my main device, along with the G60. Then I also use a Pixel 6 and iPhone 11 for work. I also have an old Moto One Action with broken screen that I'd like to get fixed someday, cause it's still working perfectly fine otherwise, an iPhone 7... and probably others too. Older devices though.

What about you?
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Well I have G60 then a Galaxy Flip and a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra... In old devices i have One plus 2 Moto G and i guess experia.. well all these are not exactly mine these were bought by my farther but now he doesn't use all obviously.. otherwise how will I buy all these after all i am still a student haha.. but next year i do am going to buy the S23+.. heard that this time the other models other than ultra are also recieving a major upgrade so yeah .... Hmmm how is pixel ? Buggy?
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
Software-wise, really nice. Smooth. Not buggy. Pretty well balanced phone, I would say.

But there is something that bothers me a lot about it, and about Pixel devices in general: the screen! It's an AMOLED, and you would think it looks stunning! Well, it should! But it doesn't!! It's sooo poorly calibrated color-wise that the white is a very yellowish/dirty white. It looks really bad. And no, it's not the "night mode". Although I hate that, too. And it doesn't only affect the whites. It affects all the colors! It's a shame for such a nice technology to look like this. The G60's display looks miles, miles better. And it's an IPS panel, FFS! Never felt the need to calibrate it. But with all the Pixels I used, this was an issue. And the biggest problem is that there's no way (other than root and all that) to customize this part. It's just bad.

Also, the Pixels have another annoyance: VoLTE, VoWIFI, 5G support. It's only in a few hand-selected countries. If you're in that country, congrats! If not, the only way to take advantage of those services is by rooting the device and using Magisk modules to enable support. Which of course is not for everybody, and while rooted, you can't upgrade your OS properly, you need to do it manually, and so on so forth. That's why I don't recommend rooting the device to anyone. It's just not worth the hassle. And in most cases, it's not necessary.
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Hmmm i understand all the hassle... But i heard the Pixel 7 series uses a Samsung display .. so you can upgrade to it if u want a good display and also wanna use Pixel... But do you believe in upgrading phones often ? I mean when there is not much in change ?
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
For as far as I know, the Pixel 6 also uses a Samsung panel. But...if it's not calibrated, it makes no difference whether it's Samsung or not. It just doesn't look well.

Also, to answer your question: no, I don't think you should be upgrading your phone too often. In fact, I used the iPhone 7 for about 4-5 years before switching to iPhone 12. I skipped 8, 10 and 11 models altogether and went straight to 12. :))

So no, I don't think you should update your phone too often. I think you should update when you feel it's the right time. When the phone doesn't perform as expected, when you need more storage, more RAM, a better camera, or other features that you didn't or couldn't have with the previous one. That's when you should upgrade.

There's no point, in my opinion, to upgrade just to have the "latest and greatest". I mean, if you're one of those people who likes to brag about his phone, cause there's not much else he can brag about...then sure, more power to you. But I'm sure you're not like that. Just as I'm not like that. Otherwise, you wouldn't have asked me this. :)

But otherwise, if the software upgrades are incremental (and they usually are), and if you're satisfied with the hardware, there haven't been any accidents (drops, shattered screen or so) then...there's really no need.

I mean, that's one of the reasons why XDA Developers exists. So you can have newer software on older hardware, when the manufacturer itself decides it's time to end the support for your phone. Now, after a while, that hardware will likely not be able to run the latest software in a way that's enjoyable. So...at that point, you should probably consider newer hardware. But until then...nope, I don't see why. :)
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
Exactly.... I like to keep things simple to be honest... I always hate the fact that some people just get the newer model as soon as it gets out without seeing what benefits they're getting from it.. (I'm not judging someone I know it's their choice) but i just don't want to be a part of those people.... And since I'll be going to have my own personal phone ( i hope you know what i mean by my own personal) next year i just want to be mentally prepared as now i am afraid even to update a software as nowadays anything can break in software after updating... And that's why I just wanted to be sure that when is the right time to do anything in this smartphone user space...

Thank you for telling all this I'll keep in mind all of the points so that I may not become a part of those people 😊😊

I'm just a human being human.😂😂😂
[Moto G40 / G60] arsradu:
You like that tagline, don't you? :)
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
😂😂😂 Yes very much ....
[Moto G40 / G60] AVI8152:
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE !!!!!! 😚😚😊😊😊
[Moto G40 / G60] mrg00d:
Just flash pixelify module. All the above mentioned and more features are included which works flawlessly.