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[Magisk] sieger007:
Kitsune Magisk installed 26.4 .

Problem : Termux app cannot get root access . Permission denied or root not found instead of magisk manager prompt

echo "No su program found on this device. Termux"
echo "does not supply tools for rooting, see e.g."
echo "http://www.androidcentral.com/root for"
echo "information about rooting Android."

I get the above message when I do just su command

If I do

/system/bin/su or /system/bin/magisk su

I get

permission denied

Tried

tsu

I get similar error "cant find root. make sure device is rooted"

Any solutions ? Here is the code for su wrapper . I can see the $PATH can easily grab su and inspite of that the program "escapes through the variable check" and flows into the echo part

#!/data/data/com.termux/files/usr/bin/sh

unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH LD_PRELOAD

for p in /debug_ramdisk/su /sbin/su /system/sbin/su /system/bin/su /system/xbin/su /su/bin/su /magisk/.core/bin/su
do
if [ -x $p ]; then
# The su tool may require programs in PATH:
PATH=/debug_ramdisk:/sbin:/sbin/su:/su/bin:/su/xbin:/system/bin:/system/xbin \
exec $p "$@"
fi
done

echo "No su program found on this device. Termux"
echo "does not supply tools for rooting, see e.g."
echo "http://www.androidcentral.com/root for"
echo "information about rooting Android."
exit 1
olivewood:/ #
[Magisk] zgfg:
You said Kitsune but didn't describe your settings (and that's the main point, users usually install Kitsune but don't understand or care how settings work different there)

If you use SuList enforced / Unmount modules by default, then ALl APPS that you do not explicitly list in your SuList WON'T SEE the root - so, if you didn't list Termux there, it will not find the root

That's the WHITELIST mode (and usually the reason why ppl chose Kitsune - but then it must be followed) hence the opposite to how Blacklist mode DenyList works in 'normal' Magisk

The same has been commented here for other apps like AdAway - it also won't see the mounted /etc/hosts if not listed, Viper4Android app, etc
[Magisk] sieger007:
Nailed it. I was Su list . BTW By default settings and system UI are included. Is there a reason cos why do these apps need to know about Su's presence ? Under system app there are some crypto files
[Magisk] zgfg:
I don't remember for those two but it was answered somewhere - probably in the thread earlier

I used Kitsune (branded Magisk Delta) about a year ago, and forgot some details
[Magisk] Vision:
I found a huge bug on A11.

Kitsune Mask latest Stable.

Every apps I have in MagiskHide, crash when dummy the boot-framework.art via module, and when remove it the apps start normal but detect the root.

Anyone else can confirm that?

EDIT: With zygisk enable happens this and without.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Don't fully understand but a year ago I successfully used Kitsune on A11-A13.

Be aware that SuList / "Unmount modules by default" works in whitelist mode - every app you want to give it access to see the changes by Magisk/root/mount MUST be listed in the list.

Otherwise, by default, they are all blocked to see

And you should already have two system apps in the SuList when you enable (see the posts from yesterday above), without, it won't work properly
[Magisk] Vision:
Thanks you for info. I appreciate.

Finally the problem cause by zygisk enable.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Have you tried with ZygiskNext module
[Magisk] Vision:
Yeah, unfortunately same results, something in zygisk and dummy boot-framework.art don't like it 😂🤣
[Magisk] hxxmor:
Do you guys recommend me to switch to kitsune mask, I was just looking forward for a boot loop saver but someone said that there's one built-in Kitsune Mask
[Magisk] sieger007:
Something v strange

Started of with Magisk Alfa with whitelist

Aka no app outside whitelist can see such

Problem was ... certain apps like Total.commander were refused entry in white list so I wrote an update to the sulist table in magisk.db to add rows for it n similar apps, and it did as indicated by select on the table. I Reloaded Magisk Kitsune App and white list tab isn't updated with Magisk.db ( btw is thereasync command that'll sync latest updates toto magisk.db with apk ?) ...So the bounced once ...rebooted back with Magisk hide list .Now there's no white list.

My apps too crash All in want is pass all blanking app tests completely. Zygdisk is enabled always
[Magisk] awzx:
No banking app is working with me no matter what I tried

Magisk kitsune Canary
[Magisk] sieger007:
Canary ... Can be Can of worms ...
[Magisk] awzx:
What would u suggest ?
[Magisk] sieger007:
I mean .... try the stable / lower ones prolly so did and still face this issue
[Magisk] Kennyeni:
Hi, I heard a rumor that Delta/Kitsune is not longer being maintained, is this true?

It has been working for me great on preserving Wallet and hiding root so I would prefer to keep using it when I upgrade my Pixel 8 to the latest version.
[Magisk] cabagekiller:
It's not that it's dead. He's just busy with school and stuff right now. He said when he gets time he will update it.
[Magisk] Syoenth:
I'm using Kitsune magisk and I want to know where are the modules folder, I need to modify a file on PIF module
[Magisk] fbirraque:
/data/adb/modules/
[Magisk] Syoenth:
I'm using Hyper Os with A14 and that folder dissapeared :/
[Magisk] fbirraque:
You need a file explorer with root permission to access it.
[Magisk] Syoenth:
I'm using Mi Xplorer
[Magisk] sieger007:
Likely you are not rooted. If you have TWRP installed you can explore on adb prompt via twrp ( without root )
[Magisk] PeteSapai:
Quick question: TB checker's Xposed check says:

Xposed Modules:

Magisk Random package Name:

<package name>

Fail

There's very little info about it, so I have no idea if this might be a problem or how I could get it fixed. Using latest Kitsune Magisk Canary (27001)
[Magisk] sieger007:
canary is highly unstable. Revert to last stable rel and see
[Magisk] PeteSapai:
Yup, that did the trick, thanks!

Sidenote: unfortunately uninstalling Canary and installing 26.4.2 messed with AdAway, and TB checker was able to play an ad. (Reinstalling AA and rebooting didn't fix it). I've been using AA for many years, and holy crap, I forgot how damn intrusive ads were! Not only that, but the 'skip video' button didn't work and neither did the X after it finished playing. I had to wait 10+ seconds before finally the Back button took me out of the thing.
[Magisk] sieger007:
why I set playstore not to auto update, until I read the changelog and have a fair idea what could have been done. Later versions many a times == less freedom + 20% free extra bloatware offer . The extra $ you pay for in terms of CPUs with next up gen phones gets 'em CPU's easy employment from google ads center . FB & GOOG driven phones ... your hands on the wheel but they turn it & make you feel you did it .
[Magisk] zgfg:
Kitsune has different settings than official Magisk. You will find similar 'reports' (and repetitive answers and explanations) about AdAway and other apps that need root...
[Magisk] PeteSapai:
It seems to be fixed by now (maybe it was a cache thing?)

After using original Magisk for years, and having it fool Outlook/Intune for about a year, Outlook finally refused to sync new emails. (Auto-update for both apps were turned off, I was still on an early 2022 release.) I read somewhere that Kitsune might still work, so I tried that. (No luck, unfortunately, but trying Stock Android also failed, so maybe my device was flagged?)

Anyway, so far it seems to be working; AdAway and the file explorer have root access, TB checker passes everything except strong and virtual integrity. We'll see if it will continue to behave.
[Magisk] fbirraque:
New Kitsune Canary update available
[Magisk] InContext:
Can confirm, new canary shows zygisk as yes.
[Magisk] spicediablo:
After updating the latest version of Hong Leong bank app, it is detecting root. I have magisk 26400 installed with zygisk enabled. Only few modules like Google photos unlimited, YouTube vanced and play integrity module installed. Any ideas on what i could try? I tried disabling zygisk and hide magisk app but it's still detecting root. I also tried second space(clone system) and installed the app there but it is still detecting root

My current configuration :

Magisk kitsune 26400

Zygisk enable

Enforce su list disabled

Magisk hide enabled

Modules:

Google photos unlimited backup

Zygisk detach v1.18

Music revanced

YouTube revanced

Play integrity fix v16.5

Much appreciated for any pointers to help further hide magisk
[Magisk] cabagekiller:
Try zygisk assistant. See if that hides it
[Magisk] cabagekiller:
Also hide the magisk app.
[Magisk] PalmerBE:
Hi,

I installed Kitsune 26.4 zip via TWRP as you see in the screenshot.

When I try to complete the install clicking on the button in the "Magisk" block in the upper part I get offered only the "Select and patch a File" option not the to patch the current ROM.

What am I doing wrong ?
[Magisk] xdauser1620:
Manager app installed and the phone did not seem to be rooted. The manager apps offers you to patch a boot file that will root your phone. You cannot patch rom without root.
[Magisk] PalmerBE:
Right, I had a old Magisk 25.2 on it but I did not succeed to upgrade to Kitsune 26.4.

I will reinstall a normal Magisk 26.4 and try to upgrade to kitsune hoping for the best

Thanks
[Magisk] spicediablo:
I checked zygisk assistant in github, it recommends to update magisk to v27? I'm currently on 26.4.

Can zygisk assistant work with kitsune?
[Magisk] sieger007:
AFAIK But I cd be wrong Z assitant needs denylist and OP has enforce list. How about turn on enforce list ( which means only these apps can see there is SU others cant see SU ) and of course Hide the app itself .
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Yes I have enforce su list but it's currently disabled. If I enable it, it means it becomes whditelist instead of blacklist. This means I need to select only apps that needs root (currently apps selected are those that need to be hidden from root i.e bank apps).

I don't have any deny list but I'd it because I'm on 26.4?
[Magisk] sieger007:
yes but then these are the only apps that see root others cant . IIANM. That was the ideal behind whitelist to hide root by default unless its needed which is what this fork offers
[Magisk] spicediablo:
How about updating from 26.4 to 27? Would that improve the hiding of root?

I just tried enabling enforce su list and rebooted phone and have not even configured my su list yet(didn't add app that needs root in su list) . The app still detecting root.... I have also hidden magisk app.

Update: I updated from 26.4 to 27.1 and it fixed my app detecting root. I guess 27.1 had better hiding capabilities as I didn't change any module nor did I add zygisk assistant or any other module. So, for those having issues with Hong Leong app, do try to update magisk first

Wanna take this opportunity to thank @huskydg for the excellent fork for magisk. I have been using this fork for a long time and it has worked flawlessly.
[Magisk] sieger007:
By whatsapp does not allow custom ROM and magisk installed. I had used stopped modded long ago still I can get past the POS bouncer Use Official

Kitsune is omly till 26.4 does it get long with 27.I assume you used update magisk button within the app and it did a direct update instead of patch image
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Yes I got the pre-release kitsune 27001 from github and installed the app, then I direct install kitsune from the app
[Magisk] spicediablo:
Spoke too soon, did a software update today and install magisk to inactive slot. The same app is again detecting my root... 😅

Updated:did a dirty flash of the latest kitsune and seems to be working now
[Magisk] GreenDotBlue:
I want to use Kitsune - But I'm not enabling magiskhide and enforce sulist​

Will run to trouble with Kitsune? I'm on 26.4 currently.

Play integrity fork, Playcurl, Zygisk assistant - how about these modules?

Need to decide whether update to Magisk 27.x or Kitsune 27.x
[Magisk] Stillhard:
You'll be fine
[Magisk] mGforCe:
Hello Fellow Users of Kitsune Magisk

Lately, believe from last 15-30 days, I am seeing that every now and then Magisk is getting uninstalled.

The renamed magisk app is gone and I see Kitsune Magisk in the app drawer. Upon clicking it says something like "allow to update to complete the setup". After that can open the Magisk app and get it renamed.

Anyone else facing the same?

For reference:

Magisk Kistune 27001 (R6687BB53) latest

Android 13, Nothing OS, Nothing Phone 1

Zygisk enabled

MagiskHide enabled

Enforce SuList enabled

Lsposed Zygisk with HMA & other modules (same as earlier setup when Magisk was not getting reset)
[Magisk] spicediablo:
I noticed this, one of my apps, whenever I update any of my magisk module such as vanced, or play integrity. Then it will start to detect root and will not launch. Sometimes flashing magisk 27001 again works but sometimes need to reinstall(direct install) multiple times before root is hidden. So, I suspected that the app somehow detected my zygisk. And true enough, when I disabled zygisk, it launched without issue. Are there alternative ways of hiding zygisk?
[Magisk] cosy6ay:
any manage to get citibank apps running?

it detecting root
[Magisk] cabagekiller:
List what you are doing to hide root.
[Magisk] jsbthree:
Same problem with german Commerzbank App.

Used kitsune 27001 for a while since the app was updated. Now root is detected no matter what I do.

Settings: zygisk on, enforce denylist off, Moduls: play integrity fix, shamiko, zygisk assistant.

Tried modules in different constellations.

Sadly no success.

Same results with official magisk canary.

Allways deleted the banking app and reboot before trying another constellations.

Any new ideas?
[Magisk] samhhmobil:
Many apps with sensitive personal data does not only look for a rooted device or play integrity, it just has additional tests performed by the app itself, as there may be:

- check for unlocked bootloader

- check for traces of a custom rom

- check for TWRP-folder

- check for other apps which really need root

- check for magisk files not hidden by denylist algorithm...

- check for...

- check for...

This you have to fiddle out by yourself (it's not easy, I know).

I know at least of three german apps (and especially german apps have to fulfil many governmental requested security guidelines), and each of them performs different checks, for each of them I have to establish different workarounds...

samhhmobil
[Magisk] Schmye Bubbula:
Nobody will answer me over on the Zygisk Assistant thread — it says to turn-off Enforce DenyList in regular Magisk, so does that mean that we're oppositely supposed to turn-on Enforce SuList in Kitsune?
[Magisk] ashish1989:
Not working, stuck on boot logo
[Magisk] ss.toedjoeh:
@huskydg ok, since it need root access, I need to search the way it can reproduce dmesg without root since magisk failed to patch and I have to restore the original boot
[Magisk] enzokart19:
I have a problem in Android 12, the installed modules, although they show in magisk that they are active, do not work
[Magisk] dr4go:
No log = didn't happen 😉
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Seems there may be issues currently with Magisk Delta and/or the integrity fix riru module as myself and others have had Google Wallet, Integrity and SafetyNet failures with Delta in the past few days

Installing Magisk Canary or mainstream Magisk along with the modded USNF module and Zygisk enabled fixed/alleviated these issues

That is your plan b if you need things to work at the time of writing
[Magisk] huskydg:
Enabled Magiskhide and added gms to hidelist?
[Magisk] 73sydney:
Of course, im no stranger to magisk/magiskhide or zygisk (in my sig you'll see my modules for automating backing up and restoring magiskhide or zygisk hidden packages (for pre and post ROM and Magisk flash) and my GPay module automated hiding packages a ways back))

I just reported the experience of a few of us so others arent going slightly mad if it happens to them :)

It looks like the issue was probably underlying and a few days ago, and the Wallet update just exposed it

Of course i am open to testing where possible, but i needed it working for tomorrow, so back to Magisk Canary for the moment
[Magisk] huskydg:
You might not notice that I had switched MagiskHide from buggy and detectable ptrace zygote (MagiskHide from Magisk v23) to monitor logcat few day ago. It is better to send the logcat (from Magisk debug) so the problem can be monitored easily.

If you want the better hiding, use modified Momohider 0.0.10 and turn off MagiskHide
[Magisk] avary:
hello, just migrated from official magisk to magisk-delta(last stable), but somehow new apps fails to ask for root access. i also have sui model but it didn't work either.? any suggestion?
[Magisk] huskydg:
No further information, no fix. Thanks!
[Magisk] avary:
edit : never mind. figured it out. :D
[Magisk] zgfg:
Probably you dirty switched to Delta (didn't uninstall the TJW Magisk), specially it's Magisk app (and maybe if you had it hidden/renamed)

Btw, does your Magisk Delta app (main window, top) recognizes that Magisk (Delta) is installed (listing its version name)
[Magisk] d0nger:
omg works absolutely perfect unlike this zygisk crap
[Magisk] 73sydney:
you might want to dial down the use of the word crap? people work hard to give you options, not least of which topjohnwu, creator of magisk and zygisk....maybe you were unaware theyre linked...
[Magisk] m0han:
could somebody help with the issue mentioned here? https://xdaforums.com/t/module-magi...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87379827
[Magisk] Stillhard:
What is this between you and Fox's app?

I saw you 'very sticked' with this app, you even 'announced' every its updates in almost every threads

Just curious tho

Ads in app involved
[Magisk] huskydg:
Fox mmm bug, report to github repo
[Magisk] m0han:
All I know is that installed modules (and their updates) are not listed. If you know better, maybe you can help. I'm curious about whether you realise it's not me alone who has this issue.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Fine for me - screenshots attached

However, the real problem for me that this latest Fox MMM v0.6.2 crashes every second or third time when I open the app

Plus, the Monet colour (enabled by default), looks pretty ugly with the Dark theme
[Magisk] m0han:
@Stillhard would not like this, I guess.

On his friendly advice, I was thinking of creating a new thread. But, the mods beat me to it.

Of/By/For the mods: https://xdaforums.com/t/question-about-fox2codes-foxmagiskmodulemanager.4488267/

But, I want out: https://xdaforums.com/t/question-about-fox2codes-foxmagiskmodulemanager.4488267/post-87385993

No crashes for me, though.
[Magisk] LedgendaryEpics:
... Also is Delta safe enough for me to switch over to? My apps still detect root but am still able to use gpay and pass device integrity.

I saw a few posts back that I shouldn't dirty install is update process similar to lygisk? will magisk-hide be effective with this version of magisk? (Currently running Lygisk android 12 pixel 3)
[Magisk] Timmmmaaahh!:
┤Thread Cleaned├┤Good morning everyone! This thread is about Magisk Delta, please remain on topic and avoid existential elaborate discussions, however interesting, about the Magiskal meaning of life. Thank you for flying XDA and have an amazing day!├
[Magisk] huskydg:
Safe or not, you can check source code, it seems no one care about it. If you are scare of bootloop, why not keep using official if you are fine with current setup?
[Magisk] LedgendaryEpics:
I meant safe as in undetectable, sorry if you thought anything else of that
[Magisk] m0han:
Wonder if the problems I face are specific to my device and/or setup. Most Delta updates require that I complete the 'additional setup'. Things are fine after this.

Spoiler content hidden.
[Magisk] zgfg:
Caution:

Be very careful in (Delta) Settings, when scrolling up and down

By mistake I enabled Root only mode. Who knows when, but I didnt reboot in the meantime

Then today I updated Delta and found first that my LSPosed modules do not work

Checking better I realized that Shamiko was not displaying that's running in Blacklist mode

Finally I realized that actually other models were not working either and then I found the culprit🥸

But at first, I thought that something was wrong with the latest Delta regarding to Zygisk (BCS of Zygisk-LSPosed and Shamiko).

I even flashed my older boot.img, patched by previous Delta and since it didn't help, I was almost considering to reinstall Magisk
[Magisk] casouzaj:
In my Sony Xperia XZ2, running AwakenOS 2.10 (Android 12.1), Shamiko and USNF-MOD (modules which rely on Zygisk) are still active. I keep passing basic and device integrity tests with today's Delta release.
[Magisk] huskydg:
Upsteam to latest commit of Magisk because it includes some fixes such as zygisk crashes child zygote on Android 13, libsu fixes,...

Riru core similar bug is also updated....
[Magisk] zgfg:
Thanks, upgraded my older device to 263d5ddb-delta(25203), everything ok so far
[Magisk] m0han:
Updated Magisk on my 'daily driver' to 1b614a07-delta(25203), LSPosed to v1.8.4-6609-riru-release and Fox's MMM to 0.6.5. Things look good.
[Magisk] ashish1989:
Are you talking about stable or canary?
[Magisk] Pervokur:
dumb question, early init mount is about modifying files on early stage? can I create folder /system/test which then become /test after pivot root?
[Magisk] huskydg:
Check https://huskydg.github.io/magisk-files/docs/internal-guide.html
[Magisk] Pervokur:
so this is the same as mounting init.rc (new way of injecting code after 24.3)

will not work for me because of kernel limitation
[Magisk] TestUserG:
If I do not have selinux enforcing will I be able to pass safetynet with magisk delta by enabling zygisk, magisk hide and install safetynet fix mod?
[Magisk] TestUserG:
I did with selinux permissive so it is yes.
[Magisk] Pervokur:
is it possible to create system partition with key files and new/edited files/folders (for pre-init stage), change name in fstab.default, mount original partition later in init stage?

(not with magisk delta, but technically)
[Magisk] ele3131:
Using "Inter Bank" App with Magisk Hide force close it when launched, without Magisk Hide it works fine, is it a Magisk Hide bug? Have never seen any app crash because of Magisk Hide =(
[Magisk] rocketda7331:
Do you by any chance use webview manager module?
[Magisk] ele3131:
Yes, I do! I'm using the module and bromite webview.

Does it conflict with Magisk Hide?
[Magisk] rocketda7331:
my understanding is that if you use magiskhide/denylist, then whatever app you are using it on wont see modifications other modules have made. so yes in a sense it "conflicts"

however try going https://www.bromite.org/system_web_view and "updating" your webview and then restart. even if you arleady have the latest version, dl the apk and install it once and try then.
[Magisk] ele3131:
Disabling the module and installing Google Webview (Playstore) did not fix the problem, so I don't think webview manager is the culprit.

My logcat shows "Zygote" even when Zygisk is disabled, so maybe there is something in it.

Here is part of my logcat when Inter App Crash:
[Magisk] rocketda7331:
Then I don't know. I had similar issue with other app and my logcat was literally "Failed to load WebView provider: No WebView installed" so that was my issue there. I use regular magisk as well so perhaps it is a little different there.
[Magisk] zgfg:
You can install

Android System WebView - Apps on Google Play

Web content for apps, powered by Chrome

play.google.com
[Magisk] rocketda7331:
I got bromite working for me, just had to install apk manually after module. but thanks
[Magisk] Reed_cz:
Livin by Mandiri, crashed

Livin' by Mandiri v1.1.2

Magisk v25.2-delta
[Magisk] Suryo75:
nobody try or talk about rooting grab or gojek app with this delta'a setting configuration ? try and feel the different with magisk official. android 11-12 seems little bit trouble with smali patcher
[Magisk] hanami532:
magisk delta not working on ldplayer 9, is there any way to fix it?
[Magisk] hanami532:
nvm, magisk delta canary works in ldplayer 9. But need to remove SU manually