yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] twe90kid:
finally got the phone setup correctly on the rom. couldn't get the kitchen to work properly. owells

personal experience,

i think that after installing a bunch of other software onto the phone, the m2d works slower. when i scroll from the home button all the way to the right, it doesn't respond as quickly. i must hold on the home button for 1 each sec before scrolling to the right. not sure if this was due to installing ftouchflo

as for the other stuff, seems to work pretty well. i need to remove some stuff i don't use. i don't use the version of icontacts included in the rom. i dont' use rcmod or device lock.

also as previously said, when you install the opal comm manager, it puts 2 extra icons in the settings/connections tab. making it 3 total.

once i get rid of all that extra stuff it would be grand.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] twe90kid:
scott,

what version of m2d is this rom based on?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
Use the kitchen and select camera version 4 instead of version 5.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] sin-cal:
""Use the kitchen and select camera version 4 instead of version 5.""

So there isn't a fix to that camera version?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] anton_spaz:
:rolleyes:

The ROM has been cooked with version5.

However, if you download the kitchen, you can cook it with version4.

No, you can't just change it, as it's in the ROM.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
A fix to add flash to version 5? No. Or did you mean a fix for the ROM to revert to camera 4 instead of 5 without cooking a kitchen? I think I might've read something about a cab version of v4 that would overwrite v5 so you don't have to reflash but I could be wrong about that.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] sin-cal:
yes, i meant a hack to configure the version 5 with flash. i'm currently back with dcd's latest. so problem solved for now. i'll cook later an give this rom another go. also had a lil problem with nueusb not playing nicely with my computer during activesync. hanging and just generally taking it's sweet time to do anything.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] brett3333:
I have always had Flashlight mapped to my press and hold "Voice Record" button just because a flashlight is always handy to have. When in the camera app, pressing and holding my voice record button turns on the flashlight app without exiting the camera app. Seems to be a fine workaround for me.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
Does the flash stay on when the picture is actually taken? I've read of others attempting to use this method as well but they say as soon as the picture is taken the flash turns off for a second regardless of the fact that the flashlight program should keep it on.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Sparkhawk:
Has anyone answered this yet? I am also a newb to this but I had the hardware button issue. start/settings/personal(tab)/buttons/Select IE button and assign a program. Get skyfire IMHO!!! Hope this helps. Also if by software you mean the tab and clicking on the globe to launch... I am not sure there is a fix for this. I did read something a while back. Anyone? I have the same problem. However since memory is a problem the less tabs the better. I just removed to tab bang extra memory. No sexy earth icon to push just the hardware button. If there is a fix I would like to know(curiosity), but I won't do it for the memory.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bitserve:
For those of you that have programs "vanish" or close when they use "too much memory", did you install the HTC Task Manager? I noticed that the HTC Task Manager from this package has AutoKill enabled.

Try setting this to 0 under HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager:

"EnableAutoKill"=dword:00000001

Alternatively, try lowering the MemoryThreshold or add the programs that you need to keep around to TaskManager's ExclusiveList.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Maybe you didint do something correct? THis ROM is fast and stable. As you stated the threads are filled with praise. Do you think everyone is lying? Im not trying ot be defensive here but lets face facts. Your dogging the rom when 8,000, yes, 8,000 other people are not. Maybe its in what you do or what apps you have loaded. Maybe your expectation is not inline with actual results? I dont know why you are one of 8,000 that has this issue. I think it must be something installed.

Eitherway you are always free to pick what ROM on the phone. Maybe this is not for you.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
What happens when you try? Maybe the soft key settings got hosed somehow. Go to start ->Settings -> BUttons and see if they are assigned. If they then asign them to seomthing else, then close out nad go back in. REassing to IE and messaging. THis is actuyally a WinMO boig and not that of the building of the ROM. I have had that happen on differnt Titan ROM's myself. Most notably NueROM3.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Good point. Whn you close an app its set to close it, not minimize (I think, I forget, havent had a titan in 2 weeks now)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
You don thave the correct bootloader and or Radio. Flash stock sprint ROM. Dont let customizations run. Reflash my ROM and post results.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] brett3333:
LOL, you're right! I hadn't noticed. Sorry, not a good workaround at all!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] faceoff101:
I just downloaded the kitchen from your website,

Ok now that i have it downloaded what to do next? do i download ppc kitchen after i extract the .bat file?

Im kind of stuck on what to do since there are 100000000000 roms and kitchens out there and everyone seems to be using different one's.

Can someone guide this noob, lol im going by no2chems pdf guide, would you happen to have a guide scrosler ???
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] taspankya:
scott, i think my posts get lost in the mayhem. but i was wondering if you could provide the .cab of your build of M2D that you used in ROM4?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] g2145:
scott,

nothing happens when i press the hardware button or the icon in the programs folder... i just tried to re-assign that button to something else and back to IE, but still no go for either the hardware or software button.

i read it somewhere where someone had to rename and or move that file, but i can not remember where
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
You extract the kitchen (I beleive it is in .zip or .rar format) then you RUN a .bat file, you cannot extract a .bat file.

Then you just select your options and press the "play" symbol once you're done. Just follow the on screen instructions. Once it's loaded you install the carrier cab just like you had just flashed the ROM (because you just did).

Then you're done.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] g2145:
problem solved by re-installing PIE from elsewhere on this site.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] faceoff101:
Thanks , I'll like to know from the fellas here what was the preference when running the kitchen what was kept and disregarded for a smoother ride ?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Imaginos:
LOL. "Not trying to be defensive but.." Well. You are. You're up in arms like I gave you negative ebay feedback and you didn't address any of the concerns I had. Also, no apps loaded except the ones you included in the ROM Pack - and even now after a reflash I am not adding anything that I haven't looked up and decided I want it.

As a new user, I was absolutley curious why this phone worked so well with stock roms and seeing some issues in this rom. Yes, I can see now it can be blamed on individual software packages. - The HTC home menu add in may be what is killing my background processes. The youtube vanishing seems to have stopped now that I killed m2d/touchflo completely. I will take function over eye candy anytime so that was no loss at all.

Not being familiar with the substitute apps that you cook in, I am giving feedback from my POV - a stock user with the expectation that this rom is supposed to be better. I wasn't around for the voting over what went in and what was tossed out, so as I find things like the autofill missing, that's a bit of a drag. I know the hardware limitations, so its not like I was expecting miracles.

Again, I am late to the party, so I missed the shakedown over the dialer choice. This Opal dialer - whn you hit the softkey to go into the phone app, it's a PITA to lookup a contact and dial them. For example - my contacts list is full of people with a last name that is also a common first name. As I start dialing up the name via the # keys, I get a ton of choices that I can't even select without having to squint to see if I am calling them at H, W, M. The original 6800 dialer was more intuitive. Why did you dump it in favor of this one?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] tssi:
Scott,

Don't let this discourage you. You are doing a great job!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] stevesrjr:
wow Imaginos your an idiot.. this is a great rom, he used a different dialer cause the stock one is butt ugly, if you want that one try and find it and install it. this rom runs smoother than the stock 6.1 rom that is out. you obviously don't know how to use your deviceor this well enough to put things onto phone that you like. stop *****ing at someone who is helping us out you dont like the rom go to stock and stop complaining about minimal things!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] joemorin73:
I don't think you'll be happy with anyting but a stock or bare rom.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bitserve:
Why are you using HTC Home? This ROM was designed to use M2D.

Hanh? I haven't had to manually dial a number that was stored in my phone since I've had this ROM installed. I flow over to the contact widget, and touch the person that I want to call. If I touch their name, it dials instantly their primary phone#. If I touch their picture, I get the option of which number I want to dial, or I can send them a text. If you're not going to use the M2D, which is how this was designed, just use DCD 3.2.6. Or use the stock ROM, since you like it best.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mjhuffer:
Some requests

First of all great work.....Just wondering if you could upgrade to a newer verson on M2D so I can use one of the weather patches. When I used your rom with the M2D and tried to use one of the weather patches it just kept locking up and M2D would never load until I uninstalled the weather patch. Also some programs that people may want because of the memory demand of Opera.....could you put skyfire, s2U2 1.35, and PocketCM 0.25c. I mean don't do it if there are no more requests but I love these programs and I'm sure there are other that do as well. Thanks and good luck with further developments.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bitserve:
Scott is using build 19 because he indicated it's the most stable.

These are actually N2A patched versions, not patches. By installing one of these, you're replacing the application exe with a different version, which it seems likely will break stuff.

What I would recommend is that you use the kitchen and modify the WeatherCities.xml file, or simply pick a different city and then modify the following registry value with your location's code that you can get from accuweather.com.

HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila2D\Weather\Settings\LocationCode

This version seems to already be patched to use N2A, it just doesn't let you select a city that isn't on the list.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mjhuffer:
Thanks for the advice will try
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Imaginos:
I wasn't using it for the home screen. Touchflo was doing that at the time. What I wanted was the hold-to-close feature. When I was done with something, I wanted it out of memory. Take the RDP client - that thing will loiter forever if you let it.

Absolutely agree with you there. At first I was memory stingy with the tabs - I took contacts out since I only use them from inside the dialer or messaging. Whoops. No contacts in the dialer. Contacts tab reinstated.

After scrapping M2D, not entering the dialer via the contacts app first will obviously slow you down unless you are making a call from the history list. I thought about trying to remap the green softkey from Phone to Contacts as a workaround, but then I would have to map something else to Phone.

Have to say thanks to you both for understanding what I was saying and coming to the same conclusion I did with some civility. I liked the look of the rom, but in the end I am more interested in performance. The integration of this rom is such that yes, you do ruin it by taking out M2D. A shame, since that is what I had to do to stop the browser, youtube, and touchflo from closing each other in a constant memory battle.

Next thing to do will to take the DCD rom around the block and see what shakes loose with that one.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Sparkhawk:
Don't get discouraged man!!!! You just can't please everyone no matter how hard you try. I LOOOOVVVVVEEEEE this ROM!!!! You are the man for going through the trouble of putting it together. Thanks again.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bitserve:
What you wanted was HTC Task Manager, not HTC Home.

If I want to call someone that's not on my People widget, which is rare, I have the left softkey mapped to iContact from Home. That's what I would recommend.

This ROM has more memory than any stock ROM, even with M2D running. I think likely the problem you were having was that you installed HTC Task Manager and left EnableAutoKill enabled, which I mentioned a few posts ago. Disable this, and apps won't close when you start running low on memory.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] car_lost:
Hey guys, I need a little bit of help...

I had the latest stock Sprint rom.

I unlocked my phone using nuespl 2.47 and that went fine.

I downloaded the Loaded R4R and insalled it.

The phone boots up fine, but I have no interent connection.

In the Device ID it says...

ROM version: dcd 3.2.6

ROM date: 08/22/08

Radio version: 3.42.02

Can anyone help with the internet issue? Thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
No,it hsant got lsot in the mayhem. I have been desperatly trying to cab the OEM up and couldnt do it.

My apologies to all. I just couldnt make the OEM into a usable CAB. If someone else would like to try I will support the endeavor as best I can.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Hmmm, Im just not sure on this one. I dont have the device any more. If I did I am sure its something simple. I never had that problem. Your the first I saw that did. Coudl you try flashing a regualr DCD 3.2.6? Tell me what happens? Mine is nothing more than that and some OEM's on steriods ;c)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Yup, exactly. You can simply replace the weather cities XML with one of your choosing and it will in the kitchen. Didint anyone notice Fargo ND is the first city you see??? ;c)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
I was defensive because you were dogging it like you are the master ROM builder of Oz. You may not have felt that way when you posted it but I interrepted it that way when I read. Others as well if you watch the thread progress just 24 hours later.

I apologize to you if I misread your intent. I truly do. Didint feel that way when I read it though. Now that we have that out of the way.....

The changes that werte made to the ROM over a stock ROm were those changes requested and voted on by many many Titan users including myself. We wanted a Diamond Style ROM until we could have the luxury of getting one of our own. This ROm is to emulate that as BEST as possible. Its entiure intent is to look pretty and run as smooth as possibl with M2D. That program is a bear and as you can see can be quite a memory hog.

For the most part I tried to tune the ROM so that it would run well with M2D only. If you are into M2D then you will have the warm fuzzy feeling all the other memobers do. If you want a ROM that is designed to run differntn today themes, Today launchers, differnt skins on the phone, diff contact managers, etc then this is NOT a good ROM for that. Its a very uitlititarian ROM and ddoes not like a lot of changes to its core. Alot of users report great succes running nearly every concieveable program. Some users have better luck than other. The reasons behind this are far too complex to discuss in this forum.

Why are you having these issues, you are changing the core function of the ROM by shuttiong down M2D and runnign HTC Home. I dont knwo what else you have installed. I can tell you that none of the installed programs fail to run properly when istalle don a fresh flash.

The obstavcle to supporting your specific instances are the fact ath I had to ship my Titan back when I got my TP. I dont have a device any more. I cant recreate spoecific user problems.

One person, who I consider the "step father" of the thread is damager (I gave hime legal gaurdianship when I got my TP hahaha). He knows the ROM better than I do and I spent over 80 hours working on it! I would keep an eye out for what he says about some of your problems. He knows this stuff ;c) Sorry I cannot assist you directly this time.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] taspankya:
its cool scott, i just wasnt sure if you were seeing the posts, as this thread grows bigger everyday.

i know nothing of making cabs. i just run them. :-) ... maybe someone reading this can help:confused:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Thats an AWESOME quote!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Yes. You need to run a carrier cab. ther are located int he ROM pack in my documents.

I really really need to update the first post to explain that better. My bad!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Its all good. We are all entitled to express our concerns and thoughts. No harm done to either of us ;c)

Thanks for scoping out the ROM!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Website Updated:

Just wanted to check in and let everyone know the website has been updated. Im added my Touch Pro ROM on there for VZW users. Same great link for both ROMS: www.scottcrosler.com

Thanks!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] car_lost:
Where are the carrier cabs located? I can't find them anywhere.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fabricatedhero:
In the kitchen you have to click ROM pack. Once your phone is booted look in my documents and you'll see a cab file named "ROM pack" (i think).

Once it installs you will see a new folder named "scott's cabs" or something like that.

In that folder you will see two sub-folders named apps n carrier.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] car_lost:
Ah, so I have to download the kitchen file?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fabricatedhero:
If you used just one of his ROMs then i'm not to sure where they would be at if they are there or not, but in the mean time you can search for DCDs carrier cabs and download the one you want and run it on your phone.

I do believe you can try looking here on XDA Titan forum and look for the old post titled "DCD kitchen 3.2.6" and there will be a link for his carrier cabs.

The kicthen Scott provides is a way to make one of your own ROMs but using one of his is just as good just need to find a carrier cab and install it is all.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] car_lost:
Nevermind I got it. There was a .cab that was in the Documents of my phone. I wasn't aware thats what Scott was talknig about. I thought he meant My Documents as his actual documents. I'm a dummy. Everything works fine now. Thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fabricatedhero:
No worries 8) happy to help
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] astarbllr:
Scott..buddy..you're doing the Lord's work over here. thanks a million!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Imaginos:
Yes, it was the task manager from the rompack. And yep. Didn't catch the autokill setting right away. Was still getting the background browser closing so I killed M2D at that point.

Don't sweat it. I'm nowhere near as thin skinned as some posters. Reread my first post and honestly, it's a pretty neutral summary of what my initial

thoughts were. Surprising to see how sensitive some folks in this thread are.

As for the rom, I think you did achieve the goal you set out to do, the apps compliment each other very well. My personal tastes run against the grain a bit, and being a guy that kills Aero off on any Vista machine I have to work on, M2D/touchflo doesn't appeal to me much. It was a nice change, but the second it became a hinderance.. it's gone. I will play with the new DCD or the previous kitchen and see if i can come up with a minimalist mix that I like.

As for the Mogul issues, yesterday I had problems with getting wireless running at work. Now I'm starting to suspect hardware problems. I've carried this handset since summer of last year, so I don't doubt the cumulative bouncing it's taken has something to do with this. I will drop back to stock sometime today to verify at least. Chances are though, time to take advantage of my insurance and swap it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] stormtrader:
Google Maps with Street View

Just discovered google maps has a new release with street view.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=457376

Link is in Post #10
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] scoobdude:
thanks for the heads up on the new google maps.

Does anyone know how to get the battery to disappear off manilla? I tried teh cab fix from the manilla thread but no worky (but it did change my vibrate icon)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Bunsen Honeydew:
I'm sorry if this hs been covered already, but is there a program that I can download that will allow me to send and receive picture messages with this ROM?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Targitai:
I am using Arcsoft MMS Composer 3.0.26.12c from PPC kitchen (version 5 isn't work for me, because my carrier).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bitserve:
That's why I'm using scott's kitchen, and didn't cook googlemaps into the ROM. Figured Google would be updating it regularly. However, now I'm testing getting it into the kernel XIP modules.

I think you can just take the battery off of the phone. :) But seriously, I assume you mean a battery meter. Where are you seeing it that you don't want to? By default, this ROM doesn't show battery meter in the title bar. If you're not using this ROM, you might try this setting:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock = 2

What carrier? I don't think that there is a Sprint picture mail app for the Windows Mobile phones that works.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
I thought it did? I forget. Havent seen it in two and a half weeks now. But that is the correct reg key for sure.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Bunsen Honeydew:
I have Alltel. I have tried GC Arcsoft MMS 5.0.70.24 and it acts like it is going to work, but the picture message can never be sent. I can receive them however.

When I was running the newest Stock alltel rom it worked.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
There is... Just cant remember the name of it. Other sprint users report success with it and the ROM in this thread. Maybe someone will be so kind as to post the links (again).

Now if your nt on Sprint check out the GC MMS cabs on this board. He has them for a few diff carriers. Not sprint of course.

Thanks!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
No, your steps are exact!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Thanks for the kind words! Greatly appreciated.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
If you sweet talk them I bet you can get a TouchPro! Thats basically how I got mine for $75.00 but it was with VZW and not the insurance ;c)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] scoobdude:
Thanks, worked like a charm.

Thanks again scott. Rom is awesome. Wife is jealous (mostly cause of the kitty pic for the picture tab). So i might be able to pass my phone to her and get the touch pro......<crosses fingers>
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rugalfury:
This rom is great. Scott's rom is one of the best ones I have ever used.

Question to scott: Does that sprintflo program work with Your rom correctly I was interested to know.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] fandi1:
I on the other hand would like to have battery meter in the title bar showing... how do i do that? please let me know

thanks