[Touch HD General] mib1800:
Hope you are not refering to the souped-up signal strength. Users are still having problem with Iphone holding calls. I think it is quite misleading to sweep this factor under the carpet. :p

That's the point isnt it? (determining which is the better phone :p )

Iphone is faster, yes. But then again HD speed is more than good enough for most purposes. When you say multi-touch are you refering to the "pinch" gesture which Iphone have over the traditional resistive. Frankly, I think it is a gimmick as this gesture forces you to engage both your hands. The zoom bar (or double-tap) is more practical as you can still use the phone single-handedly.

I never dispute aesthetic of Iphone UI. It can be a joy to use but at the same time it is also a pain in the behind (like the limitation with file attachment with mail app). WM (like symbian) is no beauty queen but it is fully-functional and most of the time this is what matters i.e. getting the job done. ;)

That's for the future isnt it? At present due to limitations, there are still a lot of apps available for WM but which are not possible or off-limits for Iphone.

No. Iphone cannot do automation. Period. It is always about user initiating the actions. With WM/Symbian, the phone can perform mundane routines for us automatically like switching profile, call filtering, wireless sync, automated batch jobs etc etc.

Yes, Iphone have some nifty apps unfortunately the basics are not covered. I just dont want to be a slave to the phone where I need to always remember to turn my phone to silent during meeting or pluging my phone to sync or turning off my BT/wifi at night etc.

It is really ironic you mentioned efficiency - like being tied down to Itunes?

On performance, it makes a different if you are gamer. Watching video is certainly better on HD and with better battery life. I just dont see having a 0.5sec speed increase is justified enough to forgo lots of functionality.

You have to know that not everyone has a ipod to start with and uses Itunes to manage their music. Some people like me just rip the music and organise them using folders. Are you telling me I have to spend hours again recreating a library using Itunes? Why can't we just load the music fast and simple without hassles (like direct usb copy) and play them by just selecting a folder? And why does Itunes wipe out music already loaded to phone when you relocate music files on PC? That's my personal experience for someone has not have any experience with the Itunes ecosystem.

You are only affirming you own belief that safari is better. In reality it is the oppositie (i.e. no flash, no

It is senseless because you dont read properly. :p here it is again - why do I want to waste hours to re-encode my current video collections which can be played in almost any other handheld devices out there?

Not great is certainly much better than being crippled. ;)

What kind of monthly subscription you have to pay? Iphone is certainly not cheap by any means after you included all the hidden cost (which you have no say over)

You still havent answer? How about scrolling a very long list? How about chaotic app icons without categories/subfolders? How about not able to add short cuts? No recent list? How about I want to type using T9 with one hand? I admit the WM UI looks grim compared to Iphone. As before it all comes back down to beauty or functional.

Personally I am not a fan of kinetic scrolling (it makes me feel dizzy). I am old-school and prefers the time tested page-up/down click any time of the day.

hehe.