[Touch HD General] mib1800:
Never say never. I can take my THD and plug in (via usb-drive mode) to jpg viewer attach to a tv and viola, I can view my full resolution photos. :lol: I think we can forget about this happening for Iphone.

How about those other newer apps (that incorporate kinetic scrolling) like Resco Expl or TF3D (playlist, all program etc) or YouTube player? I think you are not being very objective here. I really can't see that much different in scrolling speed/smoothness. Yes, the standard WM list (like those in setting page or the menu or file explorer) is jerky. We do know most of these older WM UI elements do not have kinetic scroll built-in (but later retrofitted to support some sort of finger scroll hence the jerkiness). e.g. the first Omnia firmware, you can't even do finger scrolling at all with these older UI elements. You have to use the scrollbar. With WM6.5/7 I presume finger/kinetic scrolling would be built into the OS itself. I dont think it takes so much cpu power to support a smooth kinetic scrolling. If you can't wait that long, get some the WM UI shells now which does excellent kinetic scrolling.

I think you are not understanding what I am saying. When you flip your finger up/down a list, the list move up/down in motion and stop after a period of time or when you touch it again. For me I dont like to see this motion. This is much-ado-about-nothing. You tend to overshoot/undershoot. I much prefer clean instant transition to the next page using the page-up/down.

btw: You can always map volume up/down to page-dwn/up. Or buy yourself an Xperia or touch pro :)

I thought you are refering to something spectacular. :p I am not using lexisgoo but the translation thing is just done by adding on the extra translation dictionaries, am I right? Just like if you want voice/pronounciation you add the voice module. I am using SlovoEd which does the same thing.

Yes. Sure. Like there are still many in the WM/Symbian which are not available for Iphone like add-on browsers, music players, file manager etc etc. I think it is pretty futile to do a "I have this and you dont" since there are so many apps out there incl. Java/Palm which can be used on WM. Those apps you listed for Iphone, are you 100% sure some equivalents are not available for WM?

On the other hand, we do know for sure that some apps will not be available for Iphone (unless jailbreak to a certain extent) due to self-imposed restriction such as no multi-tasking or other quirky Apple policies.

I didnt say there is no deletion in Iphone. ;) I only refers to inefficiency you want to delete many? In s60/WM, you just drag you finger across all the ones you want to delete and they will be highlighted. You just press the "Del" key that's it. On Iphone, you beat around the bush to get the same thing done.

For email a/c, it is just too inefficient if you check your email often. In S60/WM, you select tab/dropdown and you can go to any mail a/c. Even desktop email client organise a/c into tree-view. How about the atrocious attachment handling capability of Iphone? You cant attach any files except picture and adding salt to the wound, it even scales down the picture. You can also forget about saving your attachment. My point is you can have a supernice Ferrari to boast about but if it missing a wheel or two, it is still not a car. Yes, WM email client may have its quirks but at the very least it is FULLY functional.

You want more. In most UI, there is a "Back" button/history list which takes you back to the last app you used without hassle. How about Iphone? You need to use "Home" and then go hunt high and low for the app icon to start it again. This becomes a nightmare if you have fully filled up the springboard. Even with the fact that there is no task manager in Iphone, no one in design team felt there is a need for something as simple as a history list.

Same with Setting in Iphone. It is good idea to centralise all the settings (just like our good old WM Start Menu->Settings). But who came out with the great idea that you can only have ONE access point to the Settings for a phone without a main menu/task mgr?

And lastly the infamous copy-paste which only took 2 years to rectify.

I just want to highlight to you that Iphone UI is not the ultimate in user friendliness or ease of use. It looks good but underneath it is as just as falliable as the other OS UIs. I think Apple is trying to be different from others but in doing that they have also forgotten some of the time-tested basics.

Why not? :p It may be useful in certain circumstances. Scroll bars are NOT the ONLY way to scroll in WM. Or have you forgotten? You can also use page-up/down/arrow or finger flip. How many ways are there to scroll in Iphone? Exactly ONE. I can tell you that for a long list, sometimes it is much faster/easier using scrollbars. The last I look on every desktop OS, the scrollbar is still there. This is one of many areas where Apple tried (and fell flat on its face) to reinvent the wheel.

That's not T9. ;) (comment from some users). I am not even sure it is integrated into the OS and will work everywhere.