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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
always get a reciept and or pay with a tracible payment method that can be used to show payment made, and always shop ONLY with a reputable seller. in the used mobile device market..its unfortunately all about protecting yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] doubledragon5:
When I saw this, I immediately went to Samsung.com. Because I to was going to trade in my phone.. They originally gave me $100.. So I decided that I was not going to trade it in, just keep it, and sell it.. Well the day (05/13) they tried to charge my card and it failed.. That was because my card was cancelled by my banks fraud services. Because someone tried to charg $433.77 on line at a grocery story the previous night.. They know my spending habbits, and 1) I never shop at the store in question 2) especially at night. 3) I was already in bed sleeping.. So I just updated my payment method using my wife card, because it will be 5-10 days before I get a new one..
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] :
The other reason I don't buy used personal mobile tech like phones is that I've seen the places and stuff people do with their phones.

No thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
fair enough.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ninerdriver:
Well, i'm in the same boat. Ad from local classified, paid $700 for S22 Ultra. In person, at his apartment (i know his address and full name), ran the IMEI for lost or stolen and it was clean. About 3 weeks later phone 'disabled by samsung' for trade-in issue. Seller answered my call initially and claimed he would call samsung to figure it out. He even called me back and said they would send him a pin in 24 hrs because they messed up something with the trade. He's ghosted me now for 5 days.

I contacted Samsung and got transferred to 4 different depts before giving up. I just want to know the trade in balance and if they'll let me just pay it. I know he used the device with verizon so i wonder if going into the verizon store would help....?

I paid via venmo, we have a text thread showing i bought the device. I'm wondering if i have recourse in small claims court....or if that's even worth it

Parzival_ or Raza339 any luck with a bypass or help from samsung?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Talk to a detective see if you can file a theft by deception complaint against them.

Take them to small claims court for full amount plus court costs.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] doubledragon5:
You would win hands down in small claims court. Sue for your time as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
I think its wrong that people are essentially getting screwed over in this way, samsung should be willing to help in some fashion when a bill of sale is presented, showing someone purchased the phone in a tracable manner, like off fb marketplace.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
The seller is to blame for not paying off their phone and misrepresenting the device's status.

Samsung is not the culprit here... furthermore its IMEI may get blacklisted eventually as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
that doesn't make it right that the person who ultimately ends up with the phone is ultimately screwed like this.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Buy from trusted vendors and use a MC or Visa.

Caveat emptor...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
the burden shouldn't be entirely on the consumer is my point.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
The point is cover your own back.

Paying with cash is a mistake as is buying from unknown individuals. These are complex devices and huge flaws may not be noticed... at first.

In my case I deliberately bought a new N10+ a half year ago for $800. Peace of mind; I knew where it had been... in a factory sealed box.

I could have got one for $450 or less used, but threw another $250 at it to hopefully avoid fun like this or a worn out display, Android 11 or 12 instead of 10, etc. Think it through before you act... with these devices you have that luxury. If any reasonable doubt exist, reject it.

Sometimes even when you do everything right you still end up having to fight to make it right.

So the OP will now get some valuable lessons in assertive training from the U of Hard Knocks.

These come in handy.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Oswald Boelcke:
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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Consequences... for poor decisions.

Buying these stolen devices also enables the perps to generate a profit and prosper.

Why should XDA support activities that are very questionable legally and ethically?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Parzival__:
Poor decisions? My guy I literally met the dude in person in a T-Mobile store and they verified the authenticity of the device. According to this thread almost no one knew Samsung could even do this. The legal and ethical issue lies with the guy who scammed me. Not me who was unaware of being scammed and I just want a working phone that I spent nearly $800 on. You can miss me with the high horse bs as far as I’m concerned.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Buy from a known good vendor with a credit card. Cover your six.

Hold the seller accountable by taking whatever legal actions are available.

Lessons at the U of hard knocks tend to be expensive, but very instructive. Learn or get burned... take accountability for your mistakes rather than compounding them.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] theimpulson:
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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] V0latyle:
To add to my colleague's statement above, I would like to emphasize that compliance with the XDA Forum Rules is mandatory and non-negotiable, regardless of how you may feel about them. I understand that it can be frustrating to have unexpected problems with a device after what would seem like a legitimate sale; however, we prohibit sharing and discussion of certain services and methods here on XDA due to their potential criminal use, as well as legal liability. Furthermore, to preserve XDA's non profit status, we prohibit any advertising or sharing of paid services without moderator approval.

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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ninerdriver:
Thanks for your opinion and advice. Those of us in this situation are simply trying to understand all our options. To reiterate, my device was not stolen, i checked before buying and verified with Verizon. It is a loophole in the process for Samsung's trade in policy and the original purchaser is the scammer, they owe the money to Samsung.

As you've said a few times, I understand you believe we shouldn't have purchased from a private seller. Please let the rest of us dialogue about technical options/functions without continuing to interject your repeated advice. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
The device likely is or will be unusable. Options; pay off Samsung and/or take the perp to small claims court. You can see if your state attorney general will pursue this case as a fraud; some state's are very consumer proactive.

Correcting this will require at the least a fair amount of your time or less of your time but more money.

Remember at any time they can blacklist the imei; this is a very deep rabbit hole. You're actual options now, are limited.

I will "inject" what I see fit...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
my previous statements in this thread aside..

this is why I refuse to sell my devices direct to others when I've upgraded to a newer, more capable device and instead trade in either to the manufacturer, or, if not possible, reluctantly(I dont agree with their practices AT ALL) gamestop.

I dont want a buyer to feel like they got gypped if something goes sideways with a device I've previously used, as no matter what I may say or attest to, something could conceivably go wrong, a component fails, battery goes kaput..

I refuse to be shadey seller or allow myself to be accused of such.

that said, I WILL GIVE a device to someone outright, under the explicit understanding that it is given as is, with no express nor implied warranties.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] doughbokilla:
So I got one these paper weights as well same ... locked up after a month. Checked out clean when buying. Samsungs on some BS with this sh*t. So there letting people do trade in's with out even having the ... trade in phones in there possession then after they send out the new phones with the deductions from the trade in devices then they relizing the buyer was a scammer and never had the phones for trade in and now they lock up the phones. .... Would they even discount a phones price with trade ins and not even have the trade in phones in there possession. ...

{Mod edit: Heavily edited due to inappropriate language. Oswald Boelcke, Moderator}
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] MRDOCA:
Oem unlock and root fixed a Knox locked phone for me. As long as it's not imei locked your good to go.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Can they lock the ones they sell as "unlocked" not carrier ones ... Also if you're on T-Mobile just do a Assurant claim, their insurance covers any phone you put a sim card in. Like 100 bucks if you send them the old phone lol
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Parzival__:
They can lock any phone purchased through them directly regardless of carrier. If you fail to complete trade in on a T-Mobile s22 ultra purchased with them directly if they can't charge you it's going to get locked
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Parzival__:
What do you mean by oem unlock btw. Isn't that part of the rooting process?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] San Diego:
+1 this

These safeguards are in place to help reduce fraud

I do not think you will find anyone on this site who will tell you how to bypass security on a phone as that would be illegal

If you are legit, then we're sorry but it appears that you've been had. Call samsung and pay off the phone, or you've got a new paperweight.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Parzival__:
Yeah I found out later this was actually the case and I was actually able to press chargers on the guy as after I left the mobile store he made a transaction with his account and the courts were able to request his identity so I could press charges. I've won the case already and got my money back and some.

Sidenote it IS bypass able that's all I will say due to XDA policy as I'm currently using the phone in question now as we speak. By the time it was bypassed the case was already over. It was used as evidence in court but for some reason post case they sent it back to me for some reason. So I ended up getting a free s22 ultra because the guy wanted to try and pull on over on me.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Rumor has it as long as you don't sign in to Samsung account it can't be locked. And if it's a one time signal sent, after it's locked log into boot loader and do a factory reset . No experience tho just what good ol reddit says.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Not true. The lock is based on the IMEI. The Samsung account has nothing to do with it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Not true. IMEI is clean device is just bricked thru Knox.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
If Samsung doesn't receive the trade in and the credit card# is invalid, it is considered stolen. Samsung blacklists the IMEI. It has nothing to do with Knox.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Your speculating. I know first hand what happens. But ok. Have a good day :)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Tell you what. Order a phone from Samsung, then don't send the trade in and give them a bogus credit card number and let me know how that works out for you.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
As I've already told you.... I'm speaking from EXPERIENCE your speculating. I ordered my z fold 4... Which I'm typing on currently. I selected 2 trades s22ultra and iphone 13 pro... Paid the $275... Sent my devices Samsung claimed one device never came.. I said it did they said it didn't. I cancelled the card so they couldn't steal from me and still charge me. I got the emails saying in 24 hours my device would be restricted.... Did my research. Signed out from my Samsung account, flashed the carrier varitant of the rom... 2 months later I'm messaging you on said phone... On my mobile network with a clear IMEI... But hey your speculation trump's my experience so I mean, you win lol. Again have a good day.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] San Diego:
This thread should be locked as it asks how to bypass IMEI locking.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Timmmmaaahh!:
Unless I've missed something (feel free to PM a link) I cannot detect any direct forum violations here. This appears to be a somewhat complex conversation on Samsung's business practices and its potential hiatuses. Some bold statements are made, don't believe everything you read. It seems both OEM and its customers can learn from this. I did detect some unfortunately placed apostrophes =)

As long as we remember to be kind to one another, we're all good.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
theres a way to avoid the 'it arrived, no it didn't' argument. tracking numbers. at which point, once the package is tendered to the carrier, its the carrier's responsibility, not the customer's. samsung should go after the carrier. that customers are getting caught in this unfortunate scenario is, unfortunate, and not something we mere peons(end users) can change without alot more people raising a stink about it.

and no I'm not even touching on the dummys who buy phones contingent on trade in, then dont trade in their original devices, and then scam honest people with a ticking time brick. this post is specifically in regards to shipping fiascos.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
This easily avoided by buying from a trusted vendor at near the market value and using a MC or Visa card to make the purchase. FB isn't to be trusted at all. Brick on shore establishments that will at least talk to you on the phone only.

If something seems too good to be true, it likely is. Don't get too clever for your own good.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
1, I wasn't talking about fb marketplace, which you'd know if you read the entire post

2, read the entire post please. I even specify what I'm NOT talking about.

3, please do not attribute to me a furtherence of a line of thought I did NOT even touch on.

4, by direct experience I mean even I've run afoul of a shipper related snafu...its why I have such a hate on for fedex.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Your original statement is cryptic. My statement about fb was a general observation not related specifically to your post but more where not to buy.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
actually..my statement's fairly plan and direct.. I'm not sure what all is unclear or cryptic about it.

tracking numbers are the best way to verify shipment status. the courier is responsible for the package once its handed over, nothing cryptic about that.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Convoluted be a better word. That's when I have to read a none technical or legal statement more then once🤭

Anything sent to Samsung should photographed on all sides right before boxing, double boxed/well padded and insured for item's full replacement value.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] winoles:
all you say is very true, the funny thing is, the OP bought the device. for $900.00 !! almost the price of a new, sealed, officially distriibuted one!!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Lol, maybe it was too expensive. Guess that can slide both ways. I rejected a bunch of vendors for various reasons when I was looking for a N20U and finally went new N10+ instead. The used N20U's were especially a mess.

It helps a lot to talk on the phone with a prospective vendor. Get a feel for them. Ask important details pertinent to that model; is it the right model/internal memory&ram size/OS version you want? Refurbished and used phones are the hardest to reliably buy. I tend to stick with "new" phones; even some new N10+'s still floating around. Don't rush it.

Always use a card to pay for it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Samsung has been on my $hit list for years now. The N10+ was their last great flagship, the zenith of the Note series.

Unfortunate, however Samsung has only itself to blame. Too much smoke, not enough traction on the asphalt from Samsung. No expandable storage with the highest price tags ever with flagships that fail in many ways to tangibly out preform the N10+ in actual day to day use. Big, heavy power hogs with less SOT and a lot less storage. blah.

So... can we glass this thread already?🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] V0latyle:
Folks, let's keep it civil. You don't have to be friends, you don't have to bend over backwards for anyone, but mind your manners.

A few key points:

If you feel someone is being rude, don't be rude back. Just report the post and move on. It takes two to fight, and everyone involved will bear the consequences, regardless of who "started" it.

If you feel you're right, do your best to defend your point without getting personal. We're all here for one thing at the end of the day, and there's no point in insulting or belittling people.

Please pay attention to the content of posts when you reply, and stay on topic.

If everyone is telling you that you made a mistake, you probably did. Own it, learn, and move on - don't get mad because someone told you something you didn't want to hear. Yes, it can be frustrating to be reminded of your mistake as well as what you should have done, but remember that you're posting on a public forum - essentially asking for opinions - so a lot of people are going to throw in their two pence. Take it in stride, don't get irritated when 5 people tell you what you should have done. Just admit your mistake, thank them for their advice, and chive on.

Now be nice, or I'll make you hug each other
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] XRaiderV18:
at that point I have to ask why buy used? if you're only saving $25-$50...whats the point? now if it was a flagship model thats a couple years old and no longer current, I'd buy off the amazon renewed/refurbished section and enjoy the retailer's own warranty protection.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Emilson:
isn't that what you're talking about is kg lock?

Theres a couple ways to easy bypass it, i already successfully did it on mine a52s 5g, disabling system ui interface and knox apps thru adb Or thru site https://alliancex.org/ then installed other launcher ui, navigation bar, status bar, volume bar, lock screen.

┤Mod Edit├┤Commercial solution removed, violates rule #11 in our Forum Rules├
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] WesTokyo:
This is an interesting post. Your purchased email and you Samsung account is the same email address?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] winoles:
I read posts like yhis one about how clever some dudes claimn to be by "fooling" samsung by this illegal monouver of cancelling the cards and such as stated above, shame, shame for to all of them, as they are indeed scamming by avoiding paying for a device, excuses do not change the fact, they clearly admit avoid paying what they must to pay
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] WesTokyo:
Its not about scamming Samsung. OP has a paperweight, member claims to have a fix. Just thought there is no way around this. If there was, I am sure there would be online shops setup that would be offering such a service immediately.

@OP should sell your phone as junk for parts, as there as many items in the phone that could be broken-down to repair others phone. You prob can get at least $200 for it and take it on the chin as lesson learned.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Emilson:
Thats how i got mine, bought a ~500$ worth phone solded for ~99$ 'for parts' because of 'trade in lock'

Then i just had to disable main system ui interface and knox apps just in case.

installed custom status bar app, custom navigation bar app, custom lock screen app, custom notifications app, custom volume bar app, custom launcher app(or stay with samsung one ui launcher app) and voila, now im typing from it. 🙂👍
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] thewebsiteguy:
Did you disable Knox? Did you unlock the bootloader or just flash unlocked software?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Just Odin flashed new software
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Yea we telling ppl how easy it is and ppl with no experience wanna tell us we lying 😂
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
Plenty of online places do exist to do just that
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nique0201:
If you read instead of generalizing you'd see not one person mentioned trying to scam Samsung. If anything Samsung is the ones trying to get over saying phones never arrived or are broken even thought they're packaged perfectly.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
^"It's probably Samsungs employees doing the stealing and saying the phones were never received."

Numerous reports of Samsung phones sent in the be repaired arriving with additional damage.

Take multiple photos the day of boxing beforehand. Double box it with lots of padding and insure it always.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] raju_a:
I have also landed in the same situation as you and even worse coz now am out of USA with the Samsung locked phone.

So now it is just difficult to return coz of cost

If you share any pointers that would be of great help
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] shub:
im in the same situation - got a locked s23 ultra and need help, please

passkey 21411908 and asking for unlock pin
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] in4red3:
┤Mod Edit├┤Forbidden paid service removed├ Can't vouch for it enough
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] raju_a:
Can someone help with this even if it is a paid solution