[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
So how many of us would even want to do that?

My Athena has a TV-out feature that lets me do this in a easier way than merely treating the phone as a USB memory stick as described by you above. But I have never bothered using it. Of course some people might want to do that, but that's certainly not the masses of users.

Back to the topic. The resolution of picture on iPhone is more than sufficient. I don't think anyone will notice any resolution loss even if you zoom in. However, as already pointed out, that is actually not what causes the vast speed difference between winmo and iPhone. To try to say that because HD has to deal with higher resolution therefore it is a worthwhile sacrifice to live with the slow speed is simply not a good argument in my mind.

That's what I have been saying. There is'nt any that does not jerk.

I have already tried wim6.5, so I do not need to presume. Disappointment with it was what pushed me over the edge. I have tried just every single WIM UI shell there is, but could not find anything close to iPhone's smoothness and responsiveness. But this really extends beyond the launcher. It concerns every applications that we eventually have to use.

I take your point that you prefer scrollbar and you really seriuoly think that that is the better way to scroll.

SlovoEd it is available on iPhone. But for Lexisgoo users like me, moving from wm to iPhone platform will have this for no extra charge, and it covers all the languages. Wheras with SlovoEd, it is a separate purchase per language. You decide which is better.

There are other browsers other than Safari. I believe even Opera will be having one for iPhone too.

I'm not trying to say I have this and you don't. Was simply responding to typical statements that "if you want third party applications, you are better off in the winmo platform" This is no longer true in most areas although it remains true for Navigation(such as TomTom) and Office document editing tools with desktop class functionality (specifically SoftMaker)

In HD, in order to select, you need to press Menu/down arrow/Select Messages/Several, then start selecting the mails that I do not want. As far as I know, the newer winmo does not support draging to highlight mails anymore. So, From the inbox of an account, you incur 4 "strokes" before you get to pick the mails for deletion.

In contrast, with iPHone, you press the edit and start selectiong. It is only one stroke compared to winmo's four strokes.

So, how could 4 strokes be more efficient than just one?

In my HD, from the inbox of one account, I need to click Inbox pull down/click on the desire account to expand it/click on the inbox of the desired account. In total you need 3 strokes.

In my iPhone, I click back/Accounts/new account/inbox. Total 4 strokes.

No much difference.

In terms of viewing attachment, I do not encounter any display problem yet, although I did on many occassions with HD.

I think there are weaknesses in both the email clients in Winmo and iPhone. iPhone displays the attachment and mail far better than winmo. No need to scroll left and right, and all types of information are correctly displayed in iPhone. With third party software, it can mass mail and winmo mail can't. On the other hand, winmo mail client can more easily add and save attachment (more specifically to a directory of your choice). In iPhone, attachement comes in a form of a icon with size information and you decide whether or not to download it to be saved to your phone. Once saved, you're able to view the attachmetn in airplane mode without internet connection. You always have that attchment as long as you do not delete that mail. To send a photo as attachment, you choose the photo first and choose the Email Photo option to go to the mail client.

It is not really a nightmare as you have described. For me, I only have two pages. The first page contains the most frequently used application, much like your start menu except it holds more program. The second page contains folders of program. I have created folders such as Multimedia, Utilities, Settings, Reference applications, Games, etc. My programs are grouped into these folders using an application called Categories, so it is easy to find them.

Also, I use an application called QuickGold. After pressing the Home key, a search box comes up, and in most cases, I just have to type in the first alphabet of the application to list it for launching. This feature makes it easy to launch any program without having to swipe through the many pages. If you want Quickgold to show the recently used program, just go to the quickgold setting and set Recent Apps to "On". I think it shows the last 6 used programs, as compared to winmo which shows only five.

So, to recap, if you want to launch a recently used application, just press Home key to go to the home page, press home again to activate quickgold which instantly displays the last 6 applications used, and touch the application that you want.

It is still a T9, but you're right if you mean it is not a predictive T9. It's just a multitap T9. I don't use it but I do understand that some people do prefer it. If this is so very important to you in the overall scheme of things, then by all means stick to it. I used to love Tengo so much that I could'nt imagine life without it. Now I'm quite happy to use the standard iphone keyboard. Only you could, after giving yourself a fair chance to try it out, with an open mind, could decide if T9 is completely indispensable.

I'm not here to convert you. What I'm doing is to share with you my knowledge in an objective an unbiased manner and let YOU decide if your information on iPhone is really accurate. I hope my posts are helping you in someways.