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[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
hey again ...

so everything gurdd exept when i try go on on apps like google mail ect they ask me to login so i enter my user/pass and it says retrieving ect... then it says :

you dont have a network connection : this could be a temporary problem or your sim card may not be provisioned for data services . try again when you are connected?

i have internet because i can browser it ect so how i get round this thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
Hi Liam,

sorry, can't help you with that. I have the same problem (see previous post and some posts before). Somehow, when trying to connect to login to google or gmail via the services, it doesn't see this internet connection. I just downloaded the kernel sources and build my own kernel. I'm going to try, when I have time (i'm in a position that time is little) I'm going to have a look at this to see if I can figure out why this doesn't work...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
okay boylen thanks
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
touchscreen stops responding

Hi,

I've switched to the previous android (1.1). I use chompsms because it doesn't have a keyboard yet in it.

But sometimes the touchscreen stops responding...mostly when I use the keyboard of chompsms, but I had the same problem in android 1.5 (latest version for the Nike) when using its keyboard...anyone else having this problem?

Phone keeps working with the other keys, only touchscreen stops working...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
ill go on my android and see if i have the problem will update in a few mins
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
no problem for me tryed a few messges to people i could type with on screen keyboard no problem .. for me ..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
fine for me i can use the on-screen keyboard typing messeges with no stop or delay/crashes ..
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
hmm...weird...I don't think it's defect of my phone, as I never had the problem on Windows...

BTW Liam: I'm using the 1.1 android version now and I can use the calendar and get games from the market and stuff, that's pretty cool...

still want to help with the development, but waiting on Biktor, maybe he can give me a small point in the right direction to start figuring things out...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
strage one then.....

im not really using android right now partly because i finally got windows mobile 6.5 on :D and partly because i cant use many of the apps on it because they require the google thing which dotn work in 1.5
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] epimazzo:
Device turns off when in standby mode

Guys,

I noticed that after screen becomes black (standby), device turns off. I'm using latest pack (0305-1.1) found at WIKI session.

Anyone faced similar behavior?

Overall is being ok. 3G, WEB and calls. ;)

Excelent job folks!

Rgs,:cool:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
I noticed after leaving it alone a few minutes, the touchscreen starts working again...

how is 6.5 working for you? I haven't tried it yet. You took a cooke rom here somewhere? I have 6.1 now and I really don't like it...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
you are using android 1.1 with 0305? I've only used 1.5 with it...

I'm not having this problem with black screens and then the system turning off...maybe you should change the power management option in the default.txt file (pm.sleep_mode)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
Hiya windows mobile 6.5 is pretty good but has slight buys ect.. and the need to upgrade alot to fix the bugs (hard reset :@) but overall its fast and looks nice .. for me it seems abit of a battery drainer compared to my old wm 6.0
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Stylez Ray.:
I downloaded the 1.1 Version from here http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

After starting haret and pressing run nothings happens. I think it must be a problem with the default.txt

Could someone upload a working file please?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
Hey! Been away for a bit... but ported (again) dzo's latest changes on the git.

GPU1 mapped and supposedly working, I'm getting random results with it:

http://rapidshare.com/files/234669251/zImage

Use the latest 1.1 image from dzo's site (and neocore for the benchmarks) to check how it works!

Regards!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
you mean with the latest 1.1. image the Android 1.1 instead of 1.5? From here:

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
Going to try it...running Android 1.1 now.

BTW: I assume that I can use the latest kernel build for Android 1.1 and Android 1.5 both, that it's compatible?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
hmm, weird...I'm not able to get the screen locked again (that it asks to press 'menu' to unlock).

Also set the pattern unlock, but isn't asked...anyone?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
When you switch from 1.5 to 1.1 you have to reset data.img, since configuration files are in a newer version that the OS instead. Put a clean data.gz file and you should be good to go :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
Hey guys, have you seen what's coming for Android?

http://www.phonedog.com/cell-phone-videos/is-that-android.aspx

Sweeeeeet!

btw, patched the uarts, they are up on boot, but... no bluetooth yet...

Regards!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
wow thats beautiful

i love android!!

thanks for the latest kernel, biktor
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] spone1:
Is the wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Niki_Android still reflecting the current status?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
Ok. I have two directories on my device: android1.1 and android1.5. I have all the necessary files in there and switch them in the root. So I thought that should be possible to switch between both of them if I change all the files.

I also used your new zImage, but after that I missed calls. People said they got the voicemail immediately! So for now, I'm back to Windows, because of the situation (private problems) I'm in I have to be available for calls
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] epimazzo:
Yep..I'm using that one..I'll try 1.5 but I'll downsize to WM6.1 first. :rolleyes:

Thanks for help:cool:
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
hi guys so ive got android 1.1 just on my fone but it wont boot up at all ?

gets stuck on the thing saying : HaRET : Booting Linux.. screen

what am i doing wrong
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
you used all the new files in the zip ? Try the default.txt you had with the android 1.5 version, but set the width and height to 320 x 480 in the default.txt (better resolution for 1.1)

and make sure the init.rd line is correct as mentioned before
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
thankz all good now :) .. also on the keyboard i cant seem to find numbers?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
when you press the key more than 3 (or for the wxyz (9) key 4 times) you get the number I believe...

It's not as easy as the onscreen keyboard, but the android 1.1. phones all had a qwerty keyboard...

also, go to the market application and get chompsms, nice to send text messages...iPhone like...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
hiya i will when i get chance ...androids playing up again saying failed to extract data image but it says its present
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
Hi so i still cant get 1.1 booting again...

it says .

Gsm phone found....

please wait extracting data image...

rm: cant remove/sdcard/data.img : no such file or dictanry

mdp irq allready on 4 4 mdp_dmg_to_middi_ : busy

gzip: cant open /sdcard/data : file exists /bin/sh: cant acess tty: job control turned off

help please! ive tried re putting the files on and tryed editing the default.txt ( im using the one from v1.5 which worked for me before :D

Update

after triing loads of times this started happening :

i boot and it does something which says booting android reconvery mode ...

android wakeup ?? mdp busy

Constant messeges like that repeating over and over again
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
dont need help now sorted it out myself.. took ages but i tried a diffrent computer diffrent rom ect finally got it to boot :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
how do a . full stop/ dot ? also when i press 1 3 times it freezes
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] lindows:
whats the battery life like with 1.1?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
with any luck, about 6 hours I think...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liam12189:
yeh not very long .

]. im bck one 1.5 .. 1.1 is b etter but it doesnt show my internet connection or when i click connect it fails.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
Hi guys, I thought I'd let you know, I'm getting a new phone, so I'm leaving the development on Linux for the Nike. Of course, my new phone has android too :) (it's a sapphire), so I'll keep on doing things for it (I've already thought on adding a flash to the camera :) )

If anyone keeps on the development, and you need some info or something feel free to pm me, and I'll try to help you out the best way I can :), meanwhile, see you on the Sapphire forums! :P

Regards!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] graey:
Bad news, you were one of the key devs on the Nike. Congrats on the Sapphire though, I hear it's a nice device! Little envious of you now :P

I wish I had the time to work on it, but I haven't :(
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
congrats, nice upgrade man! thanks for all the work youve done.

pretty funny - my nike has been on ebay a few hours before i saw this

not quite sure where i'll go next though. i guess this is my last post in the nike forum..

cya around d00d.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
:D That's where my nike is going to be as soon as my sapphire arrives and I make sure it works :)

Between the options I had, the sapphire was the best option. It has no keyboard, but has wifi, gps, compass and a capacitive touchscreen, and of course, it doesn't have windows mobile :)

Thanks for your extensive testing mate!

Regards!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
congrats to all your new devices =)

but a pretty sad thing that theres now no developers left on this port :( although you seemed to do a great job :) gonna try it out as well as soon as i got my nike back after a few months :S maybe i'll be able to change something as well, but i'm not sure....
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
Hi biktor,

Too bad you're leaving the project. I notice that I don't have the knownledge yet to understand how to program on kernel level. And I also have too little time :(

But I will still try too figure the stuff out.

Thanks for showing us the Android OS on our Nike and it made me an enthousiast for the OS!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
one last question.... which line to change in the kernel source to get it to display true qvga? would that break android?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
qvga isnt supported yet hence the need for scaling

google are working on qvga support, its on the roadmap

http://source.android.com/roadmap
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
alright, i was just thinking about it, incase of trying out other distros
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
ah

not sure about other distros
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] joannerve:
Dying Android for Nike dev? Dying Nike development? Lately Nike developers are selling his devices. You can see less new roms and other moddings. Android developers here are leaving winmo and go for android devices. (Winmo 6.5 is only a bad cosmetic change and if you taste android on Nike you can understand this, android is really impresive so imagine andorid on HTC magic. Time happens an android 1.1 on winmo still has problems and maybe it cannot go beyond.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
hmm, one more question... i wasnt able to find any ifconfig like files to get usb0 networking to work. however people say its possible to have that working with android... could anyone write a guide for us so we can use apps like android market even when having a data plan that blocks these ports?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] aussieneon:
I have a neon 200, an australian HTC dual touch. It boots with the niki android port but the menu button does not work. I used haret to look at gpios and looked like it was 237 to me. So I edited board-htcnike-keypad.h file with #define KEY_ANDROID_MENU	237 and recompiled the kernel the used the new image to boot but still no menu button so I can not unlock the screen. Can anyone help by pointing me in the right direction as far as mapping the buttons go?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
too bad we are not going to implement Android further for the touch dual...

I think I'm going to save money for the HTC Hero...very cool thing!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Too bad the projects end this way, i just found a little program that i used on my niki, it is not perfect but it works a little, maybe someone can take a look at it.

here is the link : http://rapidshare.com/files/131829334/Android-Niki-working_fine.rar.html

I just copied it to my phone not my sd-card

Goodluck
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Boylen:
what kind of app is it?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Sorry but I have to dig in my memory because I don't have a niki anymore but I extract the file in my phone memory and tapped haret.exe and you see a startup screen and you can scroll between programs and there was a dialer and you could send sms but I never managed to do that.

I suggest you try it for yourself so you can see what it is, the only thing i remember is that it did not start the first time but after a softreset it works but I was not able to end the program so you had to do another softreset to go back to wm.

I think I tried it almost a year ago and maybe someone mentioned it before but take a look at it and let's hope it is a good basis to continue android for the niki. :)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] the_fish:
actually the progress so far is pretty good, as listed in the wiki... its just.... stopped... paused...delayed? we need true qvga support, we have to wait for google to release that.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Rataplan:
Yeah, you're right I had to read the wiki first, always pointing everybody to read first and this time I only read the last page, wish you all the luck with the android project. ;)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] kvstrien:
Ok, and for the people who want to build the kernel themselves:

- Create working dir:

mkdir ~/android-kernel

- Go to the dir:

cd ~/android-kernel

- Clone the Linuxtogo GIT:

git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git

- Go into newly created dir:

cd ~/android-kernel/kernel

- Create a new branch, call it htc-msm and link it to the official htc-msm development branch:

git checkout -b htc-msm origin/htc-msm

- Descend into the "main" android dir:

cd ~/android-kernel

- Get toolchain:

wget http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/package2549/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2

- maybe you need to rename the just downloaded file (because after .tar.bz2 wget has added ?lite=arm). (HINT FOR LINUX-NEWBIES: USE TAB TO COMPLETE KNOWN FILENAMES!! - In this case type: mv arm(TAB) arm(TAB) -> backspace till 'bz2' is the last word)

mv arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2\?lite\=arm arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2

- unpack the toolchain:

tar -xjf arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2

- ascend again into the 'kernel' directory:

cd ~/android-kernel/kernel

- make the kernel:

make htcpolaris_defconfig ARCH=arm

- export path so the newly downloaded toolchain will be used instead of your default compiler (which would compile for your computer instead of your phone):

export PATH=~/android-kernel/arm-2008q1/bin:$PATH

- make the zImage-file:

make zImage ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-

People with a multi-core processor can use the -j argument:

In this example: dual-core. (syntax: make -j <number of cores / processors>).

make -j 2 zImage ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-

Now the zImage file is created inside the directory kernel/arch/arm/boot.

When uploading this to your phone, remember that you only have to replace the zImage after each kernel build - the Linux environment on top of the kernel can just stay the same, so initrd (which is the ramdisk filesystem) can stay the same.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
This is problably old news and (again and again) not sure it helps at all, but since I dont understand nothing of linux, I just try to contribute this way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKje_0lUYg
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] :
is this project dead?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
Dzo stuck up his work on the kaiser kernel, ive not tried it yet but its here in the vogue tree:-

I hope it works..

http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
theres lots of kernels been posted that boot sdk1.0 in the kaiser and polaris forums.. ive tried them on the nike expecting them to boot and it wont mount the sd card wtf! i'll try and fiddle later but i dont know any C and im poor on linux at best so we're gonna have to work together if we want to keep up. any ideas?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
hello???????????? has anyone else tried these??
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] liba2k:
Trying to get into the project

Hi, I have a lot of Linux hacking experience, But I don't have a lot of time.

How can I get into the project fast? are there any IRC channels?

What versions of rom/radio firmware should I flash to my niki100?

Thanks!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
hi!

theres an irc channel @ #htc-linux on freenode

i think the radio 1.65.24.36 is preferable right now but i believe 1.71.09.01K is good too.. any cleanish rom should be fine, with as much free ram spare should be more than enough.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
bump........
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
jeez, if you want doing something do it yourself.

after much messing we can apparently boot! copy a polaris or kaiser bootkit to the root of your sd card and hold down the power button as soon as the haret progress bar appears and do not let go!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
nice, thanks :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jacusah:
Could you provide a link to them?

Best regards.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
we need to sort out this "sd present" mapping - we cant walk around holding the power key all day.

hes a polaris bootkit.. theres a few kernels floating around!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=473102

many Dzo kernels in the kaiser thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782&page=217

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
I think its this one:

polaris-build.tar.bz2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=452108

But im still downloading so, not sure... Anyway... whats working so far, ducamie?

---edit---

ok, you answered first, lol...

But whats the one thats working on yours?

Maybe you can even make a pack or tell us what files you used.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
its hard to test since as soon as you let go of the power button it thinks you take the sd card out and cant write changes to your data file so it crashes when you do something. gsm is working fine and touchscreen works fine. all the default programs work.. pretty much everything that the polaris guys have working works for us too!
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jacusah:
Could you give some more information on the file versions you have used and your ROMs?
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
lilly rom 1.4.5

radio 1.71.09.01K

the kit twolf posted works fine.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
Comment the line on the SD init part of the board-htcpolaris.c and yo'll get rid of the damned power button...
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
hmmmm...ok, but with what files reading it?

the ones from the first post of this thread?

it crashes on mine... :D
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] :
Hi!

Ok, can someone translate the work progress to us total noobs in programming... ?

Got pretty amped of the picture with android running...

How long do you wizards think it will take untill we get a stable release?

Best regads

C
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] twolf:
I believe Ducamie's files with the biktor_gj tip are enought for it to run... If only someone posted that version... :/
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] biktor_gj:
Well it really doesn't work for me. The kernel gets to boot, and the SD gets detected, as always, but finds some errors and then stops while trying to mount the image. Even if you patch the kernel to ommit the sd card detect switch, the other error persists (don't know what the hell is going on, mddi problems perhaps?)

@soulman79: Don't worry, if there's any real progress you will all know :)

@all: The only thing I want for now is get rid of kernel problems, but whenever I try to "make a new board" (speaking of kernel files), and when I think I have it all patched right, I get to compile, and the thing doesn't boot. I'm missing 160 bytes of code somewhere else, but can't find where the damn lines are... Maybe, you can try a different radio version. Jerpelea made the mic work with 1.65 radio, but didn't work with 1.58... lots of things to test...

ps: sorry for the bad english... just starting to get pissed of with this)
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
hmmm. biktor, did you try the newest polaris kernels?

so its just me this works for? bizarre.. are you guys sure youre holding the power button? you must not let go.. even after it boots and youre in android. do not let go.

i'll upload the files on my sd card in a minute so you guys can try.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] ducamie:
this contains an already unpacked data.img so you wont have to wait so long for it to boot. just make sure you keep your finger on the power button and dont let go. it'll take about a minute to boot.

unpack this .rar to the root of your sd card.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E1K6DO7L

its worked every time for me without fail, i can make and receive calls and everything works smoothly but you must keep your finger on the power button. (i cant wait to use android as my main os, its very fluid and quick)

i've not tired to compile my own kernel yet but it shouldnt be hard for someone with linux knowledge to patch it with the sd detect like biktor says and add jerpelas keyboard code. all the hard work has already been done or is being done for us! we just need to tweak it for the nike.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] Snutten74:
I will test inte on the double.
[Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development] jerpelea:
as the kaiser and polaris kernels are working

we should focus on an kernel build or our device

i will try to do it next week

BR