[Touch HD General] ryaninuk:
I think that people here and all over the web are talking about the reception problems is a pretty good indicator that they in fact exist. As far as iPhone users not accepting criticism, well the same applies with fan boys of other devices.

The thing about iPhone users I guess is they are so happy with their devices that they have a hard time understanding why people hate the phone so much. You may think it is a steamy pile of crap but they love it.

It is annoying to me that people don't admit the shortcomings. In a thread I gave a link to here, one user replied "I get no signal" basically admitting what I was saying to begin with and continues on that "Apple isn't at fault because they don't make the cell chip" So he admits there is a problem but the manufacturer somehow isn't to blame. Apple designed the product and installed the chip. They should have thoroughly tested it, right? They make glorious claims about their product and they aren't responsible? WTF? Seriously.

Because of fan boy mentality people that aren't Apple fan boys tend to hate the iPhone more because it is made by Apple than anything else. I can understand that. I would seriously laugh if Apple had to recall the 8 million phones they sold this quarter because they put in a bad receiver.

I am utterly shocked more people aren't complaining so this issue is addressed and maybe something is done about it.

On the other hand if the iPhone is so weak why does it get compared to every touch screen phone out there? Why is everything dubbed an "iPhone killer" if there is nothing to kill? Why is this one of the longest threads here? We aren't the people here talking about how great the HTC is?

Seems like users of other phones are just as insecure about their devices. The iPhone is the standard by which all devices are judged right now. This isn't likely to change anytime soon as far as I can tell.

It occurs to me that because of software the iPhone will evolve much faster than similar phones will even with relatively infrequent hardware revisons. There is not much about the form factor they can physically change. It is a big glass screen with a plastic back. Wait until the next Samsung or whatever comes along and this sub forum will die and the discussion will move to the "Samsung vs. the Iphone"

I am predicting the honeymoon for the HD will not last very long. Given it's lukewarm reception it almost seems like it is already yesterday's news. Unless you think HTC is going to outsell RIM next quarter.

Anyway I went off on a tangent there but was supposed to be expressing my irritation of iPhone fan boys but it sort of spilled over to all types of fan boys. One thing I can see that differentiates the two is the people with iPhones tend to love what they have and the people that have something else hate them for loving it.

The Winmo crowd will be baffled when the iPhone for all of it's silly limits continues to kill every other competitor in it's class out there in sales and with in a year is beating on Nokia's door for the number one spot. Okay thats unlikely but I can see them permanently displacing RIM for number two anyway.

There is a brand loyalty with the iPhone that doesn't exist to the same magnitude with other device manufacturers. Many other phone users ditch what they have for a competitors as soon as something "better" comes along.

Apple could change some of the hardware to be what the iPhone originally should have been and you know what? People would be pissed off for around a millisecond and then be anxiously going on to web forums wondering if it is sold out???? Where can I get one?????? and waiting in line come rain, snow or shine a week ahead of time for the pleasure to get the next one.

Sorry for rambling on so long but I have had too much coffee and been up all night. This was supposed to be a quick reply that just wouldn't end :)

To keep on topic, looking around online, there hasn't been one thread or mention of the HD having bad reception and in this regard it has complete superiority over the iPhone.