[Touch HD General] mib1800:
In the non-Iphone world, ;) many people use their phone as usb-drive.

Frankly, you have to admit to able to copy files directly to/from the phone via usb-drive is a great advantage.

We know the HTC Album is certainly not optimised. If you open the album, you see that the first page thumbnail loads pretty fast but those below/next page takes sometime to load. We know for certain Resco Viewer loads thumbnail very fast (but it is not good enough for you as it does not support...duh kinetic scroll :p ). So it is the app and not about the OS/CPU which you seems to blame it on.

The reality is just that. You cant get something for nothing. Fact is photos are much larger size on HD than Iphone so slower to generate thumbnails.

It jerks but still scroll at good useable speed (at least it dont run away from you :lol ). It just the frame rate is lower. You want to scroll faster, use the scroll-bar or page-up/down. I think you are putting much too much emphasis on the UI. You nitpick on scrolling speed (which is really not an issue) but you skim the many major issues (in fact you ignore them) of Iphone like no real multi-tasking, crippled email client, bondage to Itunes, crippled BT etc.

The last I know, there is no released phone with WM6.5. The 6.5 ROM that has been floating is not even final yet and you are already dismissing it. :p And yet you try to push that Iphone v3.0 is what the Iphone is suppose to be now. Who knows, it can happen that v3.0 may introduce many new bugs or GPS nav API/push-notificiation is not what they are supposed to be and those nice IM/voice nav will not surface. Or maybe the overall speed will lag (remember the sms lag ;) )

What is your disappointment really with 6.5? That it does not do kinetic scroll smoothly or looks anything like Iphone UI? I dont even have to do any functionality point comparison to know in terms of capability as an OS, WM6.5 (as it was with 6.1) already soundly beat Iphone 3.0 by just one factor alone - co-operative multi-tasking.

Where did I say that? :p I have no preference. Each of the scroll methods has its merit depending on the circumstances. Choices are good isnt it? You are saying no??

You are confusing pricing with capability which I thought is the topic of conversation.

You keep bringing out what will be. Dont forget in 6 months we will have 1Ghz WM or OMAP3 for Symbian. Maybe all your complains about speed now will disappear in a poof.

In general, this statement still holds true. Iphone may have more apps count but WM/S60 still have more variety of category of apps.

Your scenario is not real-world. How about you answer a simple quiz. How many keystrokes different in total for both Iphone and HD? I have 30 new emails and I want to delete all except 5 of them.

on a side note: Don't know why they have taken out the drag select in the email client. I loved that.

Did you forget you can just swipe your finger left or right to open the next Inbox? ;) That is just 1 strokes. :p Huge difference to me.

Can you view .rar mail attachment in Iphone? How many file type you can view directly off a mail in Iphone? You tell me.

Personally, I dont have any problems viewing attachment in WM. For those attachment which filetype is not recognised/register, I can always save and open attachment from the app.

There are definitely many more weaknesses in Iphone in email than WM. You are kidding yourself if you say it isnt. The inability to attach any type of file (except photo) is already major disability. Coupled that with inability to detach files from email for modification or remailing. Isnt these are the things we do very often? Have you forgotten these things so fast after having your iphone?

You need to jailbreak for this, isnt it? So what does that tell you about Iphone UI? ;) My friend who is a avid Iphone fan went back to stock because he is having a lot of problems with jb (esp. with sync / battery).

If you dont jb then you need to scroll up to 9? pages (assuming your phone is fully loaded) find your app icon instead of 1 press of back button or 1 tap of the StartMenu/select your previous app.

T9 predictive is completely indispensable to me and lots of others. It allows me to type one-handed without constantly looking at my finger position or the screen. Why can WM/S60 have many various keyboard whereas Iphone has 1? Same question. What does this tell you about Iphone UI?

Not sure whether I can see your point of view. Still looks like to me that UI aesthetic is very important to you. Some of the major minuses of iphone (like multi-tasking, email client, lockdown, automation apps, customisation etc) are not that crucial to you or that you can accept tedious workaround.