[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
I've already tried this long ago. It is just a piece of junk.

For me, photo viewing software of good quality simply does not exist in winmo platform at the moment. HTC Album is the only choice, or rather there is no choice but to use it.

Not when you have major OS changes AFAIK. Even if you just flash a new ROM you can't use those backup applications.

I don't believe that WM6.5 has addressed it. Personally I really detest the WM6.5 Titanium, and it actually was the thing that pushed me over the edge and decide to go to iPhone instead. It still can't do smooth scrolling. The menu is so jerky that I would never use it. IMO, we're far better off sticking to Dutty's ROM and TF3D V3.

Actually the key attraction of iPhone for me is not so much its beauty per se, but the fact that I can scroll smoothly, the responsiveness is 100%, UI is consistent across every applications.

I think it is incorrect to say that updates are shown as new list in Applestore. This is not correct. Actually, if there is a new version, the old version is simply replaced, and your phone automatically get the new version as well, free.

It is also IMO a myth to say that there is quantity and not quality in Applestore. I actually think that iPhone applications are in generally of far far higher quality than winmo applications. The only areas that I think they are still lacking is in the GPS navigation area, which I hope would improve in this year.

It is also a myth to say that iPhone is completely without multitasking capability. What I see is that Apple has selectively made only certain application capable of multitasking and they would always be running in the background. Phone application, messages, and music are examples of such multitasking applications. Therefore, I don't think you need to worry about missing a call while using the GPS navigation software.

As regards to beefy hardware, I would also like to see higher migapixel camera and processing speed. However, I must also say that despite all the processing speed and hardware specification, response time is so much better and consistent in iPhone as compared to HD.

I used to think that if you want good third party applications you should stick to winmo platform. I'm now of an opposite opinion: If you want good third party software, you should switch to iPhone (except you still do not have GPS navigation, and you're also not able to have desktop class ofiice application). Other than in those two areas, I feel that the table has long turned against winmo. iPhone is already way way in front in being able to give wide and good choices in third party software. I think many winmo developers have already abandoned developing software for winmo and have been developing for iPhone instead, but I could be wrong.

GPS nav is indeed a big glaring shortcoming.

IM and VOIP, I disagree that there is any issue.

The completeness of out-of-box capability is far far better in iPhone than in winmo devices IMO. No tweak to be able to play video. A clock that can not just do alarm, but also do stop watch and timer. World clock time that does not have bugs in day light saving error (which is still a problem in TF3D V3). Picture viewer that is smooth (not hang, or takes a long time to load). Camara that saves instantly and work consistently in poor lighting condition. A keyboard that allows you to input in any language in the world without having to install third party keyboard. Out-of-the-box being able to read emails and SMS in any language. Music playing that does not pause every now and then (which after such a long time has still yet to be fixed by HTC and microsoft).

Yes, it is great to be able to multitask, and I miss it. However, there is no perfect product on the market ATM.

iPhone is also far from perfect: It's screen resolution could be improved. Its battery should be made replaceable during the day. Its screen should be made bigger. Its camera should have higher resolution. It should have HSDPA. It must get all the major GPS navigation software vendor on board. Its backup and restore process must speed up. However, the good thing about iPhone as an investment is that you get bug fixes and improvements given to you free. So even if there are deficiency, such as in cut and paste, you have the comfort of knowing that that deficiency will go away this June with the free 3.0 firmware upgrade. Of course, hardware upgrade is a new investment. But here in Australia, iPhone 3G 8G sells for $799 without contract whereas HD sells for about $1300 without contract. So, in terms of cost, iPhone is a far better deal and investment. Also, a iPhone owner is likely to feel that he has the most current hardware longer than an HD owner.

In contrast, some HD owners feel that their device is already not the most up to date once they see the picture of Whitestone, Touch Pro 2, and the like. The problem is, we are likely to end up with more or less the same phone with the new money thrown in. Also, did we get any ROM update with HTC phones? Sometimes yes, but normally no. You need to buy a new phone again and again and again in order to enjoy the benefits of new winmo OS and new TF3D. Otherwise, you need to use cooked ROM. I appreciate the efforts of our cooks but many cooked ROMs often have bugs, which never seems to completely go away. Sometimes an old bug is removed but new ones emerges. At the end of the day, we end up changing ROM every week, and still don't get what we really want.

You said I did a good job in convincing you to think about iPhone. That's actually not my intention for me to try to make people switch, because that's really their own choice. I'm merely sharing with you my thoughts on what made ME make the switch and sharing with all on how I view these two good products. I do not feel any need to defend or attack either product. If microsoft and HTC are reading this post, I hope that gives them something to think about. If Apple is reading this post, I hope they also heed what I think are still their deficiencies. At the end of the day, I hope both camps move forward in giving their customers better products.

Cheers.