[Touch HD General] DrDistorzion:
allways fun to see how this question can get sparks flying in here. :)

I didn't even bare to read through, but I still tought I should add a comment here because I own both devices.

If you're in the choice, ask yourself "what will I use in the phone?" and with that I mean reallisticly, not "hmm... this feature would be kind of cool... I think I wan't it". Think of things you would really use.

The iphone totally owns the HD when it comes to useability. That menas how flawless the OS works, how fast internet browsing works (and I don't mean download speeds, I mean responsivness to the interface and the browser.)

I don't think anyone here can say that Opera works perfect on the HD, that would be a lie. It often crashes. And most times you press links it takes several seconds for it to even react. Same thing with moving around in a webpage. The iphone does this so much better.

I have seen a real proof for this, iphone users use in avrage 10 times more data-transfer than other users, how come? that MUST be due to the fact that it practically works better. We are so proud of all the functions and capabilities of our HD's, but do we really use it alot? I can't say I use alot of web browsing with mine, I only use web-browsing on it when I haveto, like checking bus-charts and checking bank-account balance.

Ofcaurce the ihpone's OS is very limited. Things like copy/past is hard to understand how they could not implement from the beginning. How hard can it be??

If I was in the choosing stage right now, if I could wait I would wait until next generation iphone gets released. OS 3 is going to be officially displayed tomorrow, and I can't wait to find out what it brings.

Someone said here that the capacitive screen of the iphone is inpractical. You are soo wrong. How can you serioisly say that it is a plus to be able to operate the HD with glowes?? I would really like to see you fiddeling with glowes on the HD-screen! I think the capacitive screen rocks. The fact that it doesn't react to other objects than the fingers means that it will not respond by mistake when for instance in the pocket should it be unlocked for some reason. It allso feels less fragile. But I can admit that it sometimes feel somewhat too sensitive, but that's a matter of learning how to use it.

So which one will I keep?

It's really a hard choice. The iphone is without doubt the best smartphone ever made, and with that I mean how good it does what it does. Because you can't say that a phone is better just because it has more features, you have to bring into perspective how good it performs them, and I beleive that's where apple really has put their effort. We WM-users here are used to the flaws of WM, in such a degree that many of us doesn't even react if the phone hangs here and there.. it's just how WM is. And most of us here can live with that as a price to pay for allmost unlimited customizability, but if you're not going to spend long hourse of personalizing, and if your primary use besides phonecalls is web-browsing and music/video, than there isn't a choice, it's the iphone all the way.

Media rocks on the iphone too, I tested to run the same youtube-film on the HD and iphone, and the iphones display is despite it's lower resolution better. The movies run smoother on the iphone too, on the HD you can notice small lags and short freezes. Not that it's bad on the HD, it's just better on the iphone. Audio when comparing headsets off the box, the iphone rocks here too, the sound is very much better in the iphone.

Getting programs for iphone totally owns the WM-HD too, just click on Appstore, brows around for the app you want, click on it and run it. No manual downloading, unpacking, transfering to SD-cards, installing, configing.. and then get messeges like "this is not a proper pocket PC-application".. just nothing ****ing with you. I really like that. You can say alot about apples restrictive policys, and I agree that their need for control reminds of a communist dictatorship, but non the less, the ease of use and just the fact how perfect it works can't bee ignored.

But there is one thing that brobably makes me choose the HD after all. That is the potential of Android. I'm following the porting project with joy, and the process is going alot faster than I could have hoped for, early test-versions are allready running. Android combines many of iphones plus-sides, like an alternative for appstore called Android Market, and it doesn't have many of the limitations that ihpone does. You are free to install unsigned applications, you are not at all restricted in the same way as the iphone.

so, i final conclusion? if you really look at your past phone-usage and see that you're probably not going to spend hours tampering with OS and that you can live with iphones restrictions, than you're lucky because that means that you can get yourself the best working device on the market.