yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Spiderm@n_:
Mine is microSD and is FAT32 formated, but it's not working. My other card is microSDHC and is also FAT32 formated, but it's not working too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] karloe:
I have tested four Sandisk cards now, and they all work.

512MB Microsd,

2GB microsdhc class 4,

4GB sdhc class 6,

8GB sdhc class 2,

All FAT32 and no Volumelabel
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] sdlopez83:
I fat32 formated my adata class 6. Still nothing. No image file.

I tried it with 2 other cards and nothing.

Could it be different firmware? IDK

THis sucks though wtf could it be some of you can flash from cards some cannot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mtsx:
I also got kinda same problem.

...

trying to find solution...

day 3
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] WatskeBart:
Problem Solved

I can flash from my SD cards now.

Both Sandisks the 8GB SDHC and a 2GB Ultra II

The problem with my card was that is wasn't correctly formatted. I discovered this when i was using Acronis Disk Director Suite to partition my drive for Linux.

That's when is saw that my 8GB card wasn't FAT32 because i left it in my card reader by accident.

I can't remember what the filesystem was, but i reformatted the card to FAT32 and now it's working flawlessly everytime.

I hope this helps good luck.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] nuwayman:
had same problem

i used to have the same problem trying to flash from micro sd on my fuze and tilt. i dont know how many times i flashed my card to fat 32 with various programs. finally figured out my problem. my card wasnt actually being formatted. how many of you are formatting with your sd adapter? you know put the little micro sd card into the bigger sd card and then trying to format. my micro sd card is a sandisk brand. every time i formatted to fat 32 it wasnt formatting the micro sd card directly. my fix was this. i found a way to format with my phone. i downloaded the latest free trial of flash format for my fuze. i believe its version 2.85. i then formatted my micro sd to fat 32 with the program. the program installs into your settings,system folder. ever since then ive been flashing both of my devices like crazy. that solved the problem for me. there are other programs i tried too like pocket mechanics but that one didnt work for me. hope this helps some of you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Farmer Ted:
Here's the link for Flash Format. My 16 gb card became corrupted a while back, and it couldn't be read by the usb port, but installing the FF demo onto my fuze saved the card. It's a really nice program-if I actually needed to regularly format sd cards I'd buy it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Spiderm@n_:
Well, I used StorageTools to format my card, but still had the problem.

Then I formated it through my old card reader (unlike my new on it doen't have separate microSD slot and doesn't read HC cards) and now it works. I found what the problem was, I formated useing StoratgeTools to /fs:FAT32/a:512, it seems it can't format it with 512 byte sector (it's 2GB card) and something happens then, anyweay, I formated it fo /fs:FAT32/a:1024 and now there are no problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] acardinale:
ive tried all of the above techniques, and i STILL cannot SD flash.

Im using a Patriot 4GB SDHC card, which only shows 3.8GB of availible memory after a fresh Format.

Any and all suggestions are appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] King of Rapture™:
Format with FAT32 and 32 kilobytes allocation unit (file sector).

It should work then.

Cards formatted capacity 3.6GB and lower require 4096 byte allocation unit (file sector).

Hope this help!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] novakry:
same issue, no resolve yet

I have a 2GB card and I'm having the same issue.

I've tried every allocation unit size it will allow me when formatting using my computer > manage > disk management. Each time I try and flash a .nbh file its exact name is RAPHIMG.nbh, I know its worked before but now it just won't now.

When I format with disk management in windows I do the following.

Volume label: <blank>

File system: FAT32

Allocation unit size: 1KB (tried all that will allow me to format as well with same result)

Perform a quick format (tried either, again no avail)

Hope someone can help, if you need any more technical data I'll be happy to give you it.

cheers

Just one other addition, I've tried all the above from the phone's memory card reader and in a sd card adaptor in a memory card reader.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] King of Rapture™:
Format with 4096 byte allocation unit (file sector) and FAT32.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mac.mackan:
LOADING...

Okey, just formatted my memorycard to FAT 32. I put the RAPHIMG.nbh on it and softreset. Tricolour comes on and then a white background with the word LOADING... in blue at the top. How long is it suppose to say loading? been stuck at this screen for almost 5 minutes now... ANYBODY???

PS: New to this flashing stuff! =)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] novakry:
Shall test now, thanks :).

Unfortunately that didn't work either, as I said before did it the same way using manage and a memory card reader. Doesn't look good for my 2GB SanDisk card, I have however got a 4GB SanDisk Ultra SDHC on the way. That will hopefully work, and I won't have to worry about it until that one messes up. What is the best tool for finding out how the microsd card is formatted?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Daemos:
I'm now having trouble, I used to not have any problems at all...but now I am consistantly getting issues, very frustrating!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jrfuze:
must be the card...

hi folks,

like some other ppl mentioned earlier in this thread, I think that the issue is the microSD card: previously, the microSD method didn't work for me with the card I had - a PNY 4G card. I tried everything that has been mentioned here and there;

so, I finally went and got a cheapo $3 1G microSD (brand name "crucial" which was the 1st time I personally heard of...)

I made sure it was formatted FAT32 (no volume label) - didn't have to play with any othe parameters for the formatting, then copied the necessary file (note: name of the file was with .nbh suffic, not .NBH, just in case it would make a difference), and was able to flash a new ROM ( EnergyROM of 09/14/09)

hth
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] B4PJS:
It is definately something to do with the card. In my Excalibur I have an unnamed 1GB Micro SD that I use to flash that one, but that card does not work for flashing my Raph, I have to use my 8GB Sandisk SDHC card and that doesnt work in my Excalibur!! IE:

Excalibur: Flash using 1GB unnamed Micro SD

Raph: Flash using Sandisk class 4 Micro SDHC
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] yilmaz101:
well hate to break it to you all that think it has to do with the card..........

but here is what I have been experiencing today. I was trying to flash wiht a 1gig transcend card. Tried a few times and no joy. So I searched the forum and came upon this thread. In the meanwhile I flashed with activesync.... Anyway after setting up the rom, I was like "hmmm I don't really like this rom much" so I just popped in the same card and formatted it once more, and tried to flash a new rom using the cable.... but guess what, this time around the flasher would not see the rom file, so I just copied onto the card and popped it in the phone, reset to enter boot loader and what do you know, it sees the image, so I flashed.

I am beginning to think maybe the phone wants to be flashed through active sync once in a while, or maybe I am just having a freakish day..... But it may be worth giving a try for those with card problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] semsem1969:
hello to everyone,

since i start flashing and am only using Sd card way.

first i format it through windows(right click ,format using Fat 32) and didn't touch any thing else and did it normal format not fast way.

first time it didn't read but i tried to put the RAPHIMG.nbh by it self not inside the folder and it worked no problem.

am using very cheap 1 GB card for flashing..

so my opinion what kind of card it doesn't matter.

give it a try if u still having the problem and let us know.

Good Luck
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] chp:
Just wanted to chime in with some of my experiences with a few different microSDHC cards I have:

Can flash from microSDHC:

SanDisk, 6GB, Class 4

Polaroid (by PNY), 16GB, Class 2

Cannot flash from microSDHC:

A-DATA, 8GB

Dane-Elec, 4GB, Class 4

NOTE: As others have mentioned, the card needs to be formatted in FAT32. exFAT does not work for flashing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mwcostello:
Are you having any issues with the Polaroid? I picked up one from Fry's a couple weeks back and seems like it's not recognized about half of the time. Sometimes it's great other times it's non existant.

If you aren't having these problems, did you do anything special to that card before you used it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] cleatus99:
Flash with My MicroSd Now Works....

I have HTC FUZE

I had to Format FAT32 Byte Size 4096 on SanDisk 2.0GB MicroSD
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] HTC_FUZE:
I have 16G Polaroid card, no problem for flashing my Fuze. But my 1GB sandisk card won't work
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ITLeader:
Try this...

After three failed SD card flash attempts, using Total Commander CE I made a copy of the RAPHIMG.nbh file on the SD card called RAPHIMG1.nbh and deleted the original RAPHIMG.nbh on the SD card. Then I renamed RAPHIMG1.nbh to RAPHIMG.nbh and deselected the Archive and System bits under properties for the new file. The next flash from the SD card worked like a champ.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] hiper25:
ArrowOS for OnePlus 8T (kebab)

​

ABOUT

​

ArrowOS is an AOSP/CAF based project started with the aim of keeping things simple, clean and neat.

Website: https://arrowos.net

Telegram: Channel | TG Portal/Links

Github: https://github.com/ArrowOS

Code Review: review.arrowos.net

E-mail: arrowos.contact

PayPal: Donate to us

Blog: blog.arrowos.net

Checkout more documentation at (maintainership/contributing): Check this out

WHAT WORKS?

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Almost everything.

Bugs: You tell me.

DOWNLOADS

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Click here to Download

Tip: Select OEM -> Device, choose Arrow version, choose the build type: "GAPPS" or "VANILLA" to download.

INSTALLACTION

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- recovery file is here

- Download ROM zip file.

- Download recovery.img and flash:

Code: adb reboot bootloader

fastboot boot recovery.img

- Format data if coming from different ROM

- ADB sideload zip file in recovery

- Reboot

INSTRUCTIONS

​

Read our blog article/post about:

* HOW-TO report a bug

* GAPPS and VANILLA variants

* Checking build integrity

ROM Source: https://github.com/ArrowOS

Kernel Source: https://github.com/ArrowOS-Devices/android_kernel_oneplus_sm8250
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] vuittion:
Been waiting for this.

Much appreciated.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] vuittion:
Is this dead in the water??

The download links have been pulled already.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] wawanRedblack:
bessss
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] TrOjAnUK:
Just checked, 12.1 download link there and working, downloaded just to check
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
try this

ArrowOS | Downloads
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
new official Build 12.1 is avilable.

ArrowOS - Downloads
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] mpraveenin:
OOS Camera available in this rom?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] cn.fyodor:
Dirty flash from ArrowOS 12.0 via Lineage Recovery and everything works like a charm. Thanks for this great update.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
After two weeks of OOS C16, I tried Arrow OS again today. It's so easy and fast. I haven't found any errors either.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
Nope
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] sharkie405:
Can anyone post some screenshots of some of the extra features, or a link to where they're listed (didn't see in website), or compare this ROM's features (<, >, or about = ) to some of the other ROMs such as nameless, Crdroid, evolutionx, etc?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
there isn't the typical submenu like derpfest and co, where all the great functions are housed. It also doesn't have that many functions. Rather pure Android with a few useful features. It is also difficult to show the functions via screenshot.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nitroax:
default launcher still lawnchair?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
the quickstep launcher, see attachment. but lawchair can be installed after. I just tried the nothing launcher. is structured similarly.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
New Build is online

ArrowOS - Downloads
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] Daystars:
Love this rom, how ever when using the camera app, if you go to record video it causes the phone to Kernel Panic, tried it with Zoom Camera and the same problem occurs when recording video.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
Hi, does this ROM has safetynet fix?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
View attachment 5619951
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
One week with this ROM, very clean and fast experience.

SafetyNet built-in and OTA updates.

This is a setup and forget as a work daily driver device, media, teams, mail, waze, etc!

Worries free ROM.

Congrats and thanks for the hard work on this! 🙏
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] hotrodwinston:
Couple of questions.

What is the recovery in the first post? Will twrp work?

And has anybody on verizon/visible got vowifi working?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
I used fastboot enhance to flash this ROM: https://xdaforums.com/t/tool-windows-fastboot-enhance-payload-dumper-image-flasher.4310553/
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
I use it with lineage recovery and flash with adb sideload. twrp doesn't work with android 12 as far as I know.

LineageOS Downloads

download.lineageos.org
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
new build is online

ArrowOS - Downloads

Device side changes

- Disable some logs

- Update WFD from lemonadep

- Fix up Power-off Alarm

- Update Graphics blobs
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] liver20:
Any telegram group for kebab?

And Other question, have unlimited Google storage?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] fosgate24360:
Im on verizon myself on another rom(EvoX 12) and VoWifi doesnt work for me with it....i was told few times before by verizon ppl that unless we have a "branded verizon" phone, we will never get VoWifi to work, along with visual voicemail....could be them just wanting me to buy another phone through verizon lol
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] warlord2045:
call recording on this rom?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
I couldn't find it, but I don't need it myself
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
Not that I know of

Yes
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] CDI-78:
Hi,

2022-06-13 build, link not available.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
try here
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] CDI-78:
Perfect, thx.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
What are the differences between Oficial and Community? Can I flash one over other and vice versa? Thanks
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
nope :(
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
new build is online

Device side changes

- Fix NFC bugs

- Upstream Kernel

- Update vibration effects

- Add Dolby Atmos

- Add unlimit edge touch switch

- Cleanup some stock something

- Fix some bugs

ArrowOS - Downloads
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] r0fless:
Hey, is it possible to add Google AR Services to this ROM? Almost every A12 ROM for 8T does not have the trees for it packed in. Would appreciate it, otherwise great rom.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
this function doesn't work for me either. but i don't know that much.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
new build

ArrowOS - Downloads

ArrowOS | Changelog

ArrowOS source changelogs

arrowos.net
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] sainzchagin:
Just installed Arrow OS, but can't find option that disables the need to press "OK" or Arrow after entering PIN. Also can't find to disable exclamation mark next to signal strength when mobile data is off. Nameless and EvoX have these features. Annoying marks when I rarely use mobile data.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] Mazoch:
Nice rom, but it is disqualified by the lack of an official camera app.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
Try Gcam as an alternative... You won't find a perfect ROM 😉

Greatness: GCam8.2.204_Greatness.211115

Download GCam8.2.204_Greatness.211115 By Greatness.

www.celsoazevedo.com
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] temp567:
nice rom!

any way to add a feature for flash light?

in android 11 some roms had the ability to long press the power button to turn on/off the flash light.

this would be a very useful aspect to add.

thanks!
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] cewori:
This feature is actually already present, you just need to enable it under Settings -> System -> Gestures (actual names of the menu may differ as my phone is in german).
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] temp567:
i dont see any flashlight option there...
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] DGXsc:
Been daily driving the ROM, so far it's the best one I've come across for the 8T.

On a heavy usage day(multiple apps, file downloads/transfers, hotspot) i get 6.5h of SOT, on a light use, i get around 8-9h.

Someone had mentioned kernel panic while recording video on stock cam, well that's still there. But using gcam or other camera apps have no issues. One small thing seems to be missing tho, i don't reckon many people try this, but my NTFS SSD just won't connect to this. When I do, it asks me to format it, which leads me to believe that there's no NTFS Support in this ROM, can anyone confirm?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] sky96111:
I made a clean flash of Arrow-v12.1-kebab-OFFICIAL-20220702-GAPPS.zip. In some cases I won't be able to turn device screen on, while screen actually works ( touch vibration, fingerprint light ). Reboot can solve this issue temporary.

I caught log for it. Could you please fix this?

Log: https://1drv.ms/t/s!AszSQqG8gUTQg9tlFT2-K2LEzZfsYg?e=ydTDsa
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
I'm having this issue too, but I haven't had the chance to get the logs.

Lately I found out that a single tap will turn the screen on, but a fix would be great.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
New Build

ArrowOS - Downloads
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] dahawthorne:
Do all four cameras work on this ROM? I ask because on my (otherwise excellent) crDroid 8.7 12.1 only the centre 12MP camera works, even with GCam or Open Camera.

Thanks for any feedback.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
For me, the main and the wide-angle camera run with gcam. I don't need the others so I can't say anything about them.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
New Build

ArrowOS - Downloads

Changelog

ArrowOS | Changelog

ArrowOS source changelogs

arrowos.net
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] allen-evan:
can i use magisk manager on this rom. i have already install the rom
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] houstontaxi:
Why is arrow os website down from last couple of days?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Get my hand on a Oneplus 8T second hand that i will use as a table thank to the MHL hdmi fuction, since i have ArrowOs vanilla on my Poco X3 Pro and i like everything about it (expecially the GUI) i will install for this phone too.

I have a question about the AOS recovery, can i flash the firmware updates from there like i do with Poco version or is better to use another recovery? Read that other recoveries, like Twrp, do not work very well atm since they are under development, so i'm wondering if anyone tested it flashing the firmware from AOS recovery.

Thanks you.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] houstontaxi:
Where to download arrow os website not working
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
try this

https://get.mirror1.arrowos.net/download.php?token=I5BQScVsMxrGtPkWOA0h4zlZLvi1yEfgNw7XDbdja26o3uT8RHKmUJp9neYC&version=arrow-12.1&variant=official&device=kebab
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Odd, to me it open instantly:

ArrowOS - Downloads
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
I've also had that it was not possible to download the build
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Downloaded just now, from Europe server, no issues here. Try reboot your router and change ip, maybe you have routing issue on your zone.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
OnePlus 8T/9R booted A13!

Beta build coming soon
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] W3ND31:
In which firmware i have to be to flash this rom? Safety net passes without magisk?
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] Wishmasterflo:
OOS11 Firmware
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] nneves:
You can find a switch under the Sound options.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Succesfully installed on my Oneplus 8T, oos 11.0.13.13.kb05ba, model KB2003 (eu).
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Can i update the firmware to the last version or it won't boot anymore? Because i want to get rid of the annoying boot message (after unlocked the bootloader) and i read that only with the last OSS 12 it disappear.

Thank you.
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] Wishmasterflo:
No, not now.

You need to wait until this ROM get OOS12 Based!
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] W3ND31:
i'm having some issues with the screen off/ambient display. When i enable ambient display, the screen keeps turning on in 5 seconds after going blank. I think that is because the "wake screen for notifications" but i don't have any new notification coming to wake the screen :|
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Thank you for the info. (y)
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] exthomeboy:
Delete
[OnePlus 8T ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Deve] kd276:
Thank you, i knew about such rom, is nice even if i still prefer Arrow because is more minimal, soon i will decide if i keep this phone or not, expecially i'm comparing it with my actual main phone Poco x3 pro. X3 is very easy to manage and you can install any rom and any firmware anytime without any issue or fear to brick it, Oneplus is far more complicated and the firmware with the wrong rom can broke it.

One thing i like about Oneplus is the HDMI output that is nice but it do not have sd card slot and 3.5 jack, also rom development for x3 pro is more active and popular. Both phones have pro and cons and both are very fast to boot with crips images. Will decide soon if keep oneplus or sell it to the second hand market.