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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
this is good to have especially for those stores that are clueless about the fuze.

"Hmm. I thought you guys have it, I was reading the brochure on it and it looked very interesting"
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
As high resolution as i could grab from it:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
That's really wierd if I scroll fast up the page the phone is a red Samsung BJ. What is that all about I wonder.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
yeah, they just overlayed the image and text. ms cutting corners again. if you look at the pdf (photoshop) there are actually 3 phones embedded: black bj, red bj, and fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
curious note, i thought it supported at&t's 7.2 hsdpa...the pamphlet says 3.6
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
I noticed that too, probably just so no one thinks AT&T can do 7.2 on their 3G right now. Kinda how that price card leaked before showed only 16gb microSD available, while HTC stated the hardware supports 32.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
true, i suppose it isnt that bad anyway. at least they arent limiting us to 1.4 MBps like they are the iPhone 3G.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
you think att will charge more for 7.2?

this would be awesome since my BJII only supports 3.6
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] exchguy:
First thing to do when this device is received is to change the home screen to remove that hideous grey theme and all of the AT&T logos. could they put more AT&T logos on the home screen. Takes up most of the home screen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
yeah, its so ugly. i'd rather have the black theme. thats the first thing i'm doing. i will admit that i am kinda partial to the "one-block" clock style shown here, maybe i'll port that clock over into the standard black theme.

the grey top bar is extremely ugly, especially in other apps such as opera, etc.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
Rather the background than logos all over the phone case.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cushcalc:
Rogers and Fido have 850/1900, but so far I can't find any mention of carrying the Touch Pro, now or in future. Hope that will change.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] KD8DNS:
I'd like tho throw my 2c in. I work for AT&T and have always had the privilege of getting every device months before it was released, as well as one's sent by the manufacturer that never get released by AT&T. I am a huge techy geek and aside from phones because I have them anyway, I always have to be the first. I realize anticipation is killing everyone. I guess I can understand how all of you feel with AT&T right now. Its like walking into a brick wall with a hard on. The device was supposed to be released on the 4th. There has been no official training of any sort for the reps. Usually when a high end device releases there is a training seminar. I can remember about 2 months ago the had blackberry bold training in the building in columbus were my office is. and here we are about 2 months later the phone is released.

I know first hand the devices have shipped into the warehouse and have been sitting there for approx 2 weeks now, this dosn't mean jump on the bandwagon and say any day now. Usually before a "high end data device" is released there will be a massive grouping of devices, to send to stores. Ive seen nothing of the sort. The devices typically ship from the dist center in either texas or sometimes kentucky. I have been to both places within the last 2 weeks and seen no grouping of the devices, and yes they are there.

Here is what I am advising to do. Call customer care over and over again, DO NOT call the stores (they are clueless). When you call, keep getting your call escalated to supervisors, threaten to cancel your service unless you get hard info regarding the release. Let them know how upset you are. Seriously its on the rebate form wich I made public saturday, as well as the price cards. Maybe if you sound pissed off enough you could speak to Mr. De la Vega himself, or at least his office manager. And tell her how upset you are. But the consistant threads here and everywere else only adds to the speculation confusion for the techy geeks like all of us. CALL CALL CALL get mad. If enough customers call they will get the point. Believe me I work for them, and it is utterly and completly the most laxidasical company when it comes to a device release other than the IPhone. Good luck to all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
Yeah, I made sure :D

The girl I've been workin' with is super helpful, and knows her stuff for the most part... Basically I get 'new customer' status for 30 days of purchase... the whole satisfaction guarantee thing... So, i'll return my freebie before then, and swap out for another one of my choice for new customer pricing~

This way I can start paying for service I want, and stop paying for the crap I don't... (read: helio...)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RizwanKhan:
the guy at my local att store here in tysons corner va told me middle of this month.

we shall wait and see ... like we have any other choice lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ACMilan07:
Ok news from a local att here in Houston, Texas. 'It's launched'.. just that no one has recieved It. It's coming out within the next week, hopefully this friday! (the day after tomorrow)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
tysons? im from burke. but im stuck in mile of nowhere pa right now without any sign of 3g
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] intothevoid:
I called the store in Queens, NY I deal with and was told "Don't quote me but we are expecting it to come end of this month or beginning of December".
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i just called actual customer service and intially she gave me the bs standard it should be out by next month then i was like are you sure? and she said shed look and said actually its saying the middle of this month it should be out
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fyr196:
I just called the ATT telephone sales. The guy had no clue what it was then looked it up and said it is scheduled for the 28th. SOB! :mad: He tried to sell me a Bold, I said not a chance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] stevierg:
My corporate store said the 11th, so a week from now....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MikeGL2:
@fyr196

Sounds like the telesales guy was just going by SWAT(sell what's available today) He knows he can't sell you the Fuze today(even if the release date is as soon as Friday) so he tells you a far off but semi-reasonable sounding release date of the 28th to try and get you to buy the Bold which he does have available. Annoying, but having been in sales myself in the past I understand why he would do it. I myself tried to be honest and wouldn't lie about release of products, etc. I just wouldn't steer a customer towards a product I knew I didn't have.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] behrouz:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/05/atandt-fuze-dummies-popping-up-in-stores/ :D:D

I can almost smell it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RizwanKhan:
yeah i got a similar info off of bgr:

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/05/we-have-lift-off-att-fuze-hits-att-stores/

so lets pray this is sooner than later :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] isaacfinnegan:
A friend who works at a very large auction site told me today that their corp. rep said black friday. This was not in direct response to the question, but the rep had to get back and sent a followup email with the 28th as the release date. Again.... who knows
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
I vote we STOP posting what he/she said. They are all full of crap and no one even has an idea wtf they are talking about for the release date. Start posting when its in the store or online for sale.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
check this out...http://www.negrielectronics.com/fuze-touch-unlocked-p-1761.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] slyng1:
That is cool, but......... They could post that on the AT&T site and we still wouldn't know when it would arrive! If you get in touch w/ them, maybe they'll tell you when they're expecting shipment (they might be getting directly from HTC, who knows)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wingman_214:
i called two local corp locations today. Store number one didnt know what i was talking about put me on hold and never came back. store number two knew about the phone but said all the information they had was "its coming soon".

i think your right. but what would we do all day?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
they keep delaying the fuze. I might just take the plunge http://www.negrielectronics.com/touch-pocket-unlocked-p-1786.html

so what if its edge...att 3G is so slow at times there doesnt seem much of a difference.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Dramacydle:
I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service for an issue regarding my Tilt. I just decided to ask about the status of the Fuze and also referred to it as the P4600, in case she couldn't find anything definitively Fuze related. She told me the release date in the system is 11/28, but said to call stores ahead of time to check for actual inventory.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
Ok, AT&T is seriously pissing me off, they have this document floating around but can't give us a break on the Fuze. I bet phoneArena's guess of 11/21 is correct.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
what the F

that means it probably wont be out next week either since they usually have one big one a week

dammit im sick of waiting this is ridiculous
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
OMFG....

ugh...:mad: so its ANOTHER week we have to wait...i was ok with Nov 11..and getting it on thursday or friday, but now its another FULL WEEK more?!

2 more weeks..atleast thats wat its looking like now...dammit! at&t! it better be worth it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
lets all go camp out at their stores and ask them repeatedly when it will come in. if it doesnt make it come quicker they will at least learn that next phone they should bring it out on time
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
Just keep hitting refresh. Would be the same as everyone is doing now :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sevans21:
I happened to stop by the flagship store in San Francisco on Market St. today. They didn't know about release dates but the manager did have a Fuze with him so I was able to play with it briefly. He's hoping for a release next week but at least anyone who wants to see can probably stop by. I didn't really like the gloss case or the keyboard compared to my current touch pro but I'll give up both to get 3g.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dontdo_that:
i don't have anything constructive to say.. but i feel like whining and moaning, since i don't have a laptop, and im using a cingular 3125 which is not even comparable without Wifi, 3G or the ability to use opera mobile/skyfire. I really need this phone to come out for school please!

Anyway, my local shop says 22nd still.... thats la jolla san diego. :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
The people at my local AT&T store are morons. They still don't even know the Fuze exists. Then they want to pull the iPhone from there pocket and tell me all the reasons I should buy it (look at the pretty games, and its got this thing inside that moves the screen when you move the phone, and look there's a keyboard right on the screen) . Of course i'm like "that's nice, i'll bring my wife next time and see if she wants to buy one."

Anyway, don't know if you all have seen these pics yet, but they're the clearest ones I have seen.

http://wmpoweruser.com/?tag=att-fuze
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TweakMyDevice:
That's starting to sound pretty reasonable. My Tilt has served me well, and if the keyboard could be fixed (consistently misses w's and u's) then I'd be happy to keep it. I'm sure HTC would laugh at the thought of fixing it under warranty!

With the Bold just released I did some research on it over the past few days thinking I might just wanna abandon HTC and WinMo altogether. It's a nice device, and looks to be waay ahead of previous Blackberries....but I don't like the interface (too much like iPhone) and the lack of ability to hack/tweak it like you can with WinMo. The 2mp camera is far too weak for a new device these days. Seems like it only has aGPS which eliminates the possibility of 3rd party software like TomTom or IGo.

Arggh, I'll wait til the end of this month and if still no Fuze then I'm gonna order an unlocked Touch HD and just deal with the lack of 3G. Asheville NC doesn't have 3G anyway...they've been saying for years "we are the next city to get it"....yeah right, just like "the Fuze will be released soon.

Mmmm feels better to vent!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] stevierg:
To quote the first post:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
How many people need to speculate the same dates?

FYI!!! Its going to come out the 2nd Tuesday next week!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
there are 2 tuesdays in a week?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mistadj16:
I think he meant, 2nd Tuesday of the month.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
No I meant exactly what I said.....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
EDIT: stupid laptop, posting the same thing twice
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
LMAO, stop it, that's too funny.

I think he means:

"Its going to come out the 2nd Tuesday, next week."

.....plus one comma
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
That's what I've been speculating for a while, the 11th... What he's saying isn't exactly revolutionary to our search for a release date.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
the only problem with the 11th is that announcement of the sidekick esque phone being slated for that day

hopefully both come
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Ayle:
....Screw that I'm taking the plunge for the X1i
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Haha, have fun... Spending $600 more for a phone that is $100 better
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
if it really is any better. i think it depends on who it is thats using it. they really are comprable in lotsa ways
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Better screen, camera, 3.5mm headphone jack, build quality is better... I think it's a little better, but sure as hell not worth $600 more.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
buttt the screen isnt flush

and the keyboard isnt as good and no accelerometer
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Ayle:
Expansys has it for $640+ATT 900 minutes and unlimited data... I won't be spending $1k... :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Ah, well then... At only $340 more, it's not tooooo bad... I still wouldn't pay it, but that's me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] guy2545:
The quickfire is slated for the 10th, so the 11th is possible. AT&T released all those qwerty keyboard non-pda phones within a few days of each other.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
OK, here's the deal... I'm getting pissed because I sold my Tilt to take advantage of it's current pre-Fuze market value, so now I'm stuck with a Samsung phone. Yes, a phone, not a PDA... and it's EDGE!

It's like I don't even remember how to use a regular phone...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
I don't feel bad for you, you're a Phillies fan.

On a more serious note, since I sold my Fuze I've been using a SE w810i phone, and I'll be waiting longer than you... I'm waiting on Android to come to AT&T. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
i'm using a $15 motorola at&t go-phone (which btw has 3g access, however i'm not paying for it) with the sim from my old wizard. this thing is seriously worse than the first phone i ever had.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cushcalc:
Yeah, but it's the x1i which doesn't have 850 HSDPA, isn't that right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] moopile:
Do you still live in the Memphis area? If so, have you tried the corporate store on Poplar near Mendenhall. They were one of the first to get the tilt. The manager gave me a couple of days notice and held one for me until I got there. Also, at the Wolfchase mall at the AT&T kiosk (not the store) was the first people to know what the Tilt was. They even told me when to expect it. He let me mess with his Tilt 2 weeks before it went on sale online.

I haven't checked with any of them due to me not being eligible for an upgrade until April '09. I hate that Premier did away with the multiple upgrades / year. I doubt I will be able to afford it on Premier when it drops. I know there have been arguments on the old thread, but I rarely found a phone cheaper on Premier .... They always jack the online price up to negate the discount. There is a thread on HoFo that talks about this. People from several companies (MS, USPS, FedEX, Dell, CocaCola, AutoZone, etc.) talk about it being the same for them. Each will post their online price for a particular device and their % discount. Each of them end up being the same price after discount.

I also hope they don't do the Fuze like most stores did the 8525 and the Tilt. Stores would only sell them to new contracts or renewals. They would not sell the first few shipments without commitments. This was due to the fact they made money off the the re-up/new contracts and saved them to lure those people in.

Anyway, at least there should be some stable roms available by the time I get mine.

Good Luck everyone.

V----- Ignore sig. too lazy to update.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dodgebj2:
I spoke to a Att store last night. He showed me his order screen, and the Fuze is on the order screen but with no time table and when shipments will be out. Its hard to believe that it will be out the 11th. He actually was more knowledgable then anyone I have spoke to over the 6 stores in my area.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
Damn site has been down almost all day. Anyway............

For those of you who have not read this here you go http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/06/att-fuze-to-hit-the-sheles-november-11th-for-299/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
might not be legit

i'm not convinced this is legit. the device is the HTC Touch Pro and is being rebranded as the AT&T Fuze (tm). There would/should not be such glaring mistakes of calling it the HTC FUZE throughout the document if it were legit. My AT&T insider has never seen an internal document so sloppily put together and questions it's authenticity.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
I certainly did see that wonderful news . . . I thought there was some AT&T conspiracy to try and keep all of us from knowing that the Fuze was coming out next week so they pulling some strings and somehow got the site down. But that's just ridiculous . . .
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
I know I have been going insane for two hours now. Not to mention I couldn't get on xda.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
It was actually called the HTC FUZE on the AT&T website, so I don't think that's wrong.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
Actually it IS called the HTC P4600 (Fuze), this is the first time HTC is an OEM for AT&T, just like Samsung, BB and all the other have been. So there for HTC keeps the name on it. Just look at the rebate that was posted before its not like the AT&T Tilt
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
I wouldn't question it. I don't think your AT&T insider is very reliable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Seconded...

Several weeks ago, when I played with the AT&T rep's demo Fuze, he was quick to point out that AT&T was releasing the device as the HTC Fuze... a first for them since they always added AT&T to the name in the past.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i highly doubt the document is fake since on att forums they took down the posted images saying that you cant put trade secrets on there
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
yay!!

now i just gota figure out a way to get the phone on the 11th...probably won't have time until the 12th cuz i'll be busy with work :(

1 yr contract price vs 2 yr contract price, what do you guys think? i think it's about $70ish difference? I'm wondering if I should get a 1yr contract since I might be moving away in a few years.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
And on veterans day when many of us have off on this Holiday.. How convenient.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mike19722:
Tuesday Nov. 11th !!!!!

I have a manager friend that works at a local corp. store here in Elgin Illinois

He got test devices in today...and a e-mail from people higher on the chain saying that the first shipment of Fuse's will be in on tuesday:eek::eek:

Peace

Mike
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] HoustonRox:
Still not sure why ATT cant officially comfirm this if its only 5 days away? Do they not want to disappoint people if they slowly get to stores or what? Its like a great movie coming out yet never telling you when it will hit the theaters, please att save me the pain
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] _LEM_:
yeah... actually they did the same thing with the Tilt last year.

Hopefully it will finally be next week.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Dramacydle:
I wish I could get Veterans Day off :( I spoke with a customer service representative on the phone to discuss my discount options on a Fuze. He mentioned that I can either wait until the 21-month eligibility period has elapsed on my current contract or I can do a "secured upgrade," if I renew my contract with AT&T. The caveat is that it's not as generous as a true upgrade (after 21 months), it disqualifies you from mail-in rebates that are offered on the device, and it has to be done on the phone with a representative. I'm not sure if the actual discount is negotiable, but I guess I'll find out in the coming weeks. :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] corneliusm:
You'll be waiting a LOOOOONG time. Might as well get another Fuze and wait for a decent Android rom. AT&T seems pretty arrogant/hostile toward the OHA, and probably won't offer official Android phones until everyone else has already jumped on that bandwagon.

Just my $0.02.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jtsurfs:
I just called the Seal Beach, CA AT&T corporate store (562-598-8022) and spoke to Don. He put me on hold, came back and said the launch date is 11/11, they will have phones in stores for sale. I asked him if the phone was coming out that day or just being announced, he said they would have phones that day.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
seems like AT&T is very elusive in terms of their upgrade options. I've seen stories where people get an upgrade from corporate store w/o even fulfilling half of their contract term. And again I've read stories where people, like you, are offered an "early" upgrade where they are paying only ~$75 off retail price. Does anyone know what's up with the inconsistencies?

I am currently 16months into my 2yr contract, and according to my account, I will be eligible for upgrade in January 2009 (18months into contract instead of 21months. And I have no idea why it's 18 months.). I'd really love to upgrade to Fuze asap cuz my Razr just died on me a few weeks ago, and now i'm running on a 3yr old tri-band nokia that has 900 instead of GSM850.

I hope I'll be able to upgrade and there will still be stock left on the 12th :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beachboyde:
Hands on Fuze

Hi, Just got back from my local ATT store in Rehoboth Beach Delaware, US and had the Fuze in my hand. The Manager got one intoday for his use and learning and let me play with it. WOWOOOOOO!!!! It's great. keypad is smaller then the Tilt, but what a phone and feel to it. Has about the same weight as the Tilt, but smaller oversize unit.

I'm putting my Tilt up for sale tonight on Craigs List as I got the new Blackberry Bold and will be getting the Fuze on Tuesday when it arrives. He pretty much comfirmed the 11th.

I'm selling my Tilt with extra desktop craddle with battery charger, ex battery large with extended back and 2600mah, nerver used. LOL, and case. Going to list for 325.00 US hope I can get it. and has 7 months on the warranty and I'll provide the receipt.

Hope this helps us Fuze junkies and It' GREAT..... He even gave me a Fuze neck chain. I love it.

Beachboyde