[Touch HD General] eaglesteve:
Funny that you find S2V to be "not that bad". I had also tried this long time ago and just repeated using that again today. It is nowhere close to fairness and justice to view it as having the same offering as iPhone mobile photo application.

Even in a directory with mere 9 pictures, it took quite a while to paint the icons. After that, it takes many tap to load the first picture. Trying to swipe the picture to go to the next one feels like trying to swipe away a piece of photos which has been firmly glued to the screen. It makes me feel that I have to press very hard against the screen to make it move, and it takes 5 to 7 hard swipes to make each change. It provides no clues on how to end the picture viewing to go back to the thumbnails. Double tap does not work. On my photo directory with less than just 600 pictures, the thumbnail page basically froze after painting the first page (which is also done very slowly). My HD also does not have the Dpad to zoom in and out of the picture, although I can do so in my Athena.

Yes, there are probabaly 20 to 30 picture viewing software in the applestore. Everyone would be able to instantly display all the thumbnail items, scroll smoothly without jerkiness, instantly go into any of the photoes, zoom in and out effortlessly, and swipe from one picture to another effortlessly. Winmo devices is yet to have just one such application.

I had simply decided that I had put up enough with the likes of such applications and simply move on to a better platform that offers much better user experience.

Really good scrolling exist only on iPhone but does not really exist in winmo device yet. By good scrolling I mean the speed of scrolling is completely controllable (when my finger moves, the page must move without delay. When my finger stops, the page must stop immediately unless I want it to move kinetically), without flickering, and is completely readable while scrolling is taking place. Scrolling in winmo devices is typically jerky, sometimes it does not respond to your finger movement, other times seems to be rapidly processing the movement as if trying to catch up.

The closest to that based on my own experience is found only in Opera mini browser. Even Opera mobile tends to be jerky all the way. It is distracting and not practical in winmo device to you perhaps for this reason.

Let me put it this way. While there are many small applications around, it does not mean that they are mostly useless and that you can't find good ones. To use HiCalc as an example, I would put to you that the version in iPhone is better than the version in winmo devices. Simiarly, my Lexisgoo dictionary on iPhone is far far better than the Lexisgoo in my winmo devices. Not just in terms of interface, but also in terms of functions an features.

Actually, many software vendors put out a "lite" version which is free for us to try and a "full" version which cost money. You might want to try out 20 or 30 different ones before committing to buy. Doing this itself is quite fun.

I had always been using plain WM before owning HD, so I have very good idea of the speed. With or without TF3D, it can't match iPhone's responsiveness and speed. Plain and simple.

I have not used S60 yet. You like this platform?

The future could change. Nobody could tell who will be able to provide the best solution two to five years down the road. If a better solution than iPhone comes along then, I will surely take a good look and if I find it really good, I will switch over to that platform. I don't treat my winmo or iphone as a religion to stay faithful to forever.

I like winmo devices in the past because it was once the best platform. But now times has moved on, and Apple IMO has way overtaken microsoft at least in the handheld OS area. This is my opinion anyway. Others may think differently and I respect that.