[Touch HD General] mib1800:
Ok. Even if your statement is for OP and not general how can Iphone be better based on comparable facts? We do know for a fact that iphone is very weak in making and holding calls (which OP does 50% of time). Also iphone does not even have basic things like mms or even forwarding of sms.

on HD you have a screen that is 20% bigger in physically area and resolution that is 200% of Iphone screen and coupled with more RAM and the same finger friendly use. So how is Iphone better in web surfing (which OP does 40% of the time)?

On email, HD supports BB connect and goosync. We also know WM is much more integrated with Exchange than Iphone (incl ability to send invites, support for categories/notes/tasks etc) making it a better mail client than Iphone can ever be. So how is Iphone better? :p

That is not true entirely. I know of people who have trouble syncing their PIMs/email/apps (takes 1.5hrs instead of usual few minutes on a jail-broken phone). btw: can you backup the jailbroken iphone (incl. settings/jailbroken apps/data etc) and restore it to the same state after a new (re-jailbreak) firmware? I gather from my friends you cannot do this.

I also have mixed feelings about Appstore. It is a quite big mess now. I was looking thru it during my evaluation phase (betw. iphone and HD) and there are just too many of the same throw-away or nonsensical apps. You still can't find thing similar to those integrated suite of software like on WM (e.g from spb).

Such as ??? Some tangible technical points examples would be good. (and Iphone UI is easy should not be one of them ;) )

I am no supporter of the cumbersome Itunes. And I doubt anyone who has not use Itunes would be one either. I have music files in many format and I just want simplicity which allows me to copy my music library (stored in folders) into the phone (via usb-drive). I even think the Windows Media Player is better than Itunes as it does not force a conversion.

btw: can you search your music library in Iphone? can you create playlist on the iphone itself? Can you view stream video? Can you play all the major media format directly downloaded from the web? The last I heard you can't. So I dont know what multi-media experience you are talking about? More like "experience of lacking" to me. :lol:

Sorry no. you wish too that safari is better but you are just avoiding the point with empty rebuttal :p

I do encode my media but I dont do it repeatedly all the time. :p Once you have already a sizeable collection of media encoded for handheld what is the point of re-encoding it again for Iphone? And what is the purpose of wasting time recreating a media library in Itunes which you could not possibly reuse on another device? You may like to spend the rest of your life in Itunes jail but not everyone is as crazy.

Opera has flash support (new version). ;)

If someone is on wifi all-day, why should he/she pay extra for data plan which is not used to fullest? And the world is very unlike the US where you are forced into this without alternatives.

Is a good looking UI good or is it a functional UI better? Iphone UI certainly looks good and it is quite mesmerising when used. However, I also find in certain areas it is not functional. E.g. it is just a chore to scroll long list (where is the scroll bar?). No program shortcuts/category/recent list is another pain which requires the endless flipping. No "at-a-glance" today screen is another big minus. Iphone oversized UI elements also reduces amount of info on the screen (thus making more finger gestures necessary). And the non availablility of other keyboard/input types (incl. T9 / transcriber) is also a big deficiency.

If a user only use what Iphone UI has to offer and is satisfied with it then I would think he/she would feel the same with TouchFlo (since all the basic ops are covered without ever venturing into archaic WM UI)

...only the 100% stable one :lol: