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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
Just wondering, which state are you in?

after consulting Dr. Google a bit, I came across this forum. Apparently last year's blackfriday sale on Tilt was limited to certain states. And it also required a 2 year contract.

Assuming things are more or less the same this year, it can mean 2 things

1) if you don't live in those states, you're out of luck just like me

2) unless you signed up for a 2yr contract, you might have a hard time getting the difference paid back. (I wonder if it's possible to cancel the contract/line and just get a new one, but then u'd probably lose the # and have to pay activation fee twice)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
since he's a phils fan (arrrg, a mets fan here :mad:), he's probably in or near pa

so I think it's possible that there are more than one rebate form

I'll be renewing my contract, so I think I'll be able to take advantage of whatever deals they got, as long as it doesn't require txt or data plans (so no rebates for me)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
sweet - WA is on the list. If its available early then I'll probably jump early and if they give me bs about not doing the black friday deal (if there is one) then ill just cancel and re-sign.

isnt making a huge diff to me anyways until the elite rom comes out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Look just above my post count. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
Actually i'm in Lexington now, but saw no reason to change it as some people may have actually heard of Memphis. I went to Memphis today to buy a car, but didn't have time to stop by AT&T. I was in Nashville a few days ago, and the Kiosks in Cool Springs and Opry Mills mall were the same: "Yeah, they're replacing the Tilt soon, but I think its called Crossfire or something like that. Let me check our website." Oh well, doesn't really matter since I won't be able to buy one for a month or so anyway. If I could get a Touch Pro for around $500 in a month or so I would buy it rather than the Fuze (assuming AT&T's 3G works on it at that time). I don't think the price is gonna drop that fast though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
What's this about the Fuze being insurance eligible? I couldn't get insurance on my Tilt. Does anyone else have insurance on their Tilt? It wouldn't surprise me since I usually deal with morons at the AT&T stores. If I can get the Fuze insured at a reasonable price i'm sold. First time you replace one they'll probably cancel the insurance though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
you werent allowed to on any smartphone previously but they now do allow it. the deductable is big though
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
I got insurance on my tilt for 4.99 a month. I haven't even had it 30 days though. I got my phone through AT&T over the phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beachboyde:
I had Insurance in my Tilt, till I found out that I would cost between $75-$150 to replace it under the insurance. I droped it. I'll just replace the phone if it brakes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
Looks like HTC decided to put their foot down. What would have happened if AT&T wanted to brand Apple's product: AT&T iPhone 3G? That crap wouldn't fly. HTC Fuze sounds good to me, but I will never get used to referring to it that way (in my mind HTC will touch pro, AT&T will be Fuze).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
Insurance is $5 a month, but with a $125 deductible w/ smartphones... You get two replacement allowances per year, and you can do it for any reason... i.e. lost the phone, it broke, someone stole it, etc. or... maybe you just want a new one.. :D

Either way, I'm gonna be insuring mine, cause .... well just cause :D

$125 is much cheaper that $500... even after one year of $5.00 / month.... $60+125=$185 for a replacement...

Seems like a more than decent price imo :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
Its still worth it for one replacement anyway. Especially if you were really clumsy and dropped in the lake sometime during the first few months :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Insurance fraud, anyone? If nothing happens to the phone and you get a new one because you have insurance, that's illegal. It's there in case it breaks or leaves your possession, don't abuse it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
ditto, and unless you want to be stuck with the same phone for a long time, i don't really see how insurance helps. Cuz by the time you get a replacement, Fuze will probably be a lot cheaper by then. in the end, insurance companies always do their homework and make sure you're the loser no matter what.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Well Black, I don't know if you saw the news, but if you pop over to Engadget, you will see an article about no Android phone for AT&T anytime soon. It's quoted from the CEO himself. Something about the platform needing to open up a wider range of non-google apps. So does that mean you'll be getting a Fuze after all?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dtmcnamara:
i got a unlocked G1 im looking to get rid of...humm

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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Nope, I know there isn't anything coming for a long time. That's why unlocked phones exist, eventually there'll be a tri-band (850/1900/2100) UMTS Android phone that hits the market, even if it's not with AT&T.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Unless you plan on selling it VERY cheap I'm not interested. They're all over eBay so it's not like it's hard to find, but I'd need a lot of convincing in the form of a low price to buy a phone that doesn't give me 3G.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Ayle:
I did some research on the x1 and apprently it doesn't have the 850 band so it's a no-go for that one... 5 days to hold... =/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Ayle:
Where did you get it? I might be interested in getting one as something like that could have helped me when my iphone bit the dust...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dtmcnamara:
the no 3G is the main reason im getting rid of it as well. i bought it to hold me over until the Fuze came out. now that it is about to come out, the G1 is going to go.

the phone has potential.....but the key word is HAS. maybe in a few months it will be something really cool. for now its just a phone with a few ok apps.

ebay here i come
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
The other version, the X1a, will have 850 I believe.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Yeah, well I figure I'll benefit doubly by waiting for an Android phone that supports AT&T 3G... I'll get 3G of course, and the OS/community will be so much more developed by that time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Ah, very true Black. Nicely played sir!:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
:cool:

Bow chicka wow wowww
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MikeGL2:
What, do you guys have nothing better to do than stay up late posting on forums? :D;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
My sleeping schedule is completely thrown off, I woke up at 11 pm EST. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asfoor:
I am testing a Fuze right now... HTC released few in collaboration with AT&T. All I can say... you will have to wait and see... You will be very pleased with its performance. HOWEVER, having used Tilts for the last 15 months.. I am kind of used to the Tilt and the buttons. I have no idea what someone here was saying about the sound quality of the Fuze... All I can say it is a perfect unit. However I wish the camera resolution was better.

BTW the release date is supposed to be Nov 15, but some stores will be shipped their sample version on Nov 10th. Most stores have received the dummy units to place on their show-racks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] roctavious:
I'm in Nashville, Tn on vacation. I was shopping in mall and stopped in an ATT store and asked about the Fuze. The woman didn't know what I was talking about until I said it was the replacement for the Tilt. She said that she thought that was the phone that they had gotten in their shipment that day. I asked when it would be for sale and she asked a guy behind her. He said the 11th and said it with confidence. I'm leaving town before then but I may try to find a store to sell it to me on the 10th. Not going to happen I know, but its worth a shot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
I had never used any PPC before I got my Fuze, and I agree it's a good device. Perfect unit? Far from it. Start playing music, and put the phone flat down on a table, face up. The speaker is smothered so that the volume is so much lower than when you're holding it or it's face down. As for the release date, are you sure November 15th?

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/06/att-fuze-to-hit-the-sheles-november-11th-for-299/

I guess we'll see, but that seems pretty solid to me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
The speaker has to be on one side of the unit, dude :) Is it so horrible to place it face down? I think putting it on the front would seriously cramp the style of the touchscreen and button panel.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
If you really think that, look at the Palm Treo Pro, another device made by HTC. PERFECTLY designed, the speaker is off to the side right where the curve starts, so when you put it down on the table the sound isn't muffled. Why does the Fuze need to have the speaker in the center?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
This effect isn't as bad with the new faceted back. The speaker isn't completely covered like it would have been when the back was flat. It does get a little quieter but not too bad IMO.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beachboyde:
I was on the phone last night with ATT for 3 hours about the wifi on the Blackberry Bold. Have to do all sorts of stuff to get it on wifi unless your in a ATT hotspot. Would not connect to my Bluant head phone, Bold is going Boldly back to ATT today for my coins inreturn. LOL I will however be getting the Fuze and I so hope that is Tuesday the 11th.

Have a GREAT weekend everyone.

Beachboyde
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Umm, my Fuze had the faceted back, as all of them do, and it was very noticeable. I don't know of any Fuzes that have a flat back, or any GSM Touch Pro for that matter? :|
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
Well, the Fuze (Touch Pro) isn't that rounded, for starters. You could make the case that that's a design flaw, I suppose.

I'm sure the reason it was done was related to the industrial design of the product. It probably just couldn't accommodate a side speaker, even though that would probably be preferable. It probably has to do with the sliding mechanism, if I had to guess.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Well I'm not about to debate engineering aspects of the phone, I'm just saying I found that to be a problem for me. Nothing that was a huge setback, but I'd jump every time I picked the phone off the table because the volume got so loud as soon as the speaker was lifted.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nthdgreee:
Dropped into an AT&T store here in Colorado Springs yesterday and asked about the Fuze. I was armed with all kinds of printouts and pictures of the device in case they tried to tell me it didn't exist. Happily, the guy I talked with said they had just gotten in the dummy phones, which he proudly showed off to me.

I asked about a release date and he seemed pretty confident it was November 11th. He indicated to me that he's been waiting for the phone as well. He pulled out a list and asked me if I wanted to be notified as soon as they came in. "Sure!", I said.

Anyway, here's to hoping. I ordered a 8Gb Micros SDHC card by faith today (2 day air), hoping it arrives the same day I get my phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/11/07/verizons-touch-pro-caught-on-video/

Well theres a video fo the Verizon Version of Touch pro.

and if u look closely, its seems to have the TouchFlo 3D interface in LANDSCAPE mode.

anyone think this would be possible in updates or custom ROMs for the Fuze?! Cuz thats awesome
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] slyng1:
HA - i did the same thing, except I ordered mine so it would arrive near Nov 4th! Haven't even even opened the packaging yet...

Here's an odd anecdote: My brother (who is not in the loop on this phone at all) went into an AT&T store and asked if they had the "HTC Touch Diamond" (I later informed him that they don't carry that phone) to which the sales guy looks at him confused, and says, "no, but we are getting the HTC Fuze." So I suppose that's a positive thing -- In fact I'm suprised he didn't try to sell him a BlackBerry Bold.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Sorry about that. For some reason I thought I had read somewhere that your earlier Fuze had a flat back similar to the Sprint TouchPro. Must be getting confused in my old age...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ndn715:
anyone else wonder why these things cost more than a playstation 3? :D

:mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
Man, store reps are still clueless.

Just called 2 stores in the Rochester, NY, area. One said they might have them in by the 14th, and they had a dummy, but no one in the store had a live testing unit. The other said they have NO release date information and claimed that no AT&T employees have one because "they haven't released it to [them] yet because they're still working out bugs, probably". Yeah... except that about 50 people on here have said they've received live demos from store employees around the country.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ndn715:
going in to the store on tuesday here in bellevue (seattle), the lady said that a couple of the guys attended training last friday and received a few of them... one of the reps there showed me his, but they said there was still no word on when they'd be out...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Because they're worth it! :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nthdgreee:
What class did you get on your 8GB card? I ordered a Class 6. Do you know if anyone has confirmed that the phone will take advantage of the full 8GB. It's such a new device I wouldn't think there would be any problems.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] slyng1:
I got a class 4 card. This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134717 The Phone can accept up to 16gb as far as i know, but i wasn't willing to pay $100 for the 16gb card which has just come out. I'll accept a lower speed for only having to pay $20. A had a 4gb card by Kingston that worked really well for me, so I said what the hell, stick with what works.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
The Fuze will accept SDHC cards up to 32GB. The leaked AT&T spec sheet confirms this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
Of course, 32GB microSDHC cards don't exist yet . . . but I have my 16GB microSDHC ($70 on ebay) all ready to go. I even have my Tomtom map and cab files all ready to be installed as soon as I have the phone in my hands.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
wow how does vzw end up the ones who make a good change to a phone?

i certainly hope someone changes it so we can do landscape tf3d
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
It's all good, my Fuze had a gray backing (which I actually like more) instead of the black but it was still faceted. I'm really not a fan of the fingerprint canvas they gave us now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Can't you install to a memory card (via memory card reader) and be ahead of the game? :)

I know Garmin Mobile XT has that option, they have exe's that install to a memory card or phone from a computer... Great feature.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Which cab files do you have ready to install? And is there a "better" choice for a memory card?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
If rumors are correct, VZW crippled their version of the phone. It's said to have no accelerometer and only 128MB of RAM. I find it hard to believe it could run TF3D well with that configuration, and there's not enough in the video to tell how it will handle it while running other processes.

Edit: Also, it should only have the 3.1MP camera of the Sprint version, not the 3.2 given in the GSM version. Different cameras, I believe.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
im definetly not interested in their version trust me haha

but it does look like they managed to make it run so im just hoping someone can copy that cause landscape icons right now are blah
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Hey everyone, I just popped over to wmexperts.com, and they have a hands-on video of the Fuze with first impressions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MikeGL2:
I am looking to buy a 16gb micro sd card for the fuze. Does anyone know if there is a 16gb class 4 card available? I can't find any in the searches I have done.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
doesn't exist yet. Class 2 is the best you can do. Class 4 should be out before the end of the year, though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
Thanks for the heads up about the WMExperts video; it's fantastic!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Captain Throwback, you mentioned that you had some cab files already to go, what kind of things do you plan on adding to your Fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
I went for the 8gb class 6 for like $23 on newegg...

16's too expensive for me atm :D

I'll wait till the 32's come out and the 16's drop!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
the fuze from the wmexperts review looks awwwwfully slow :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jtsurfs:
+1 ;)

I already bought a class 6 8gb card for $19USD.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] atsitalian:
Where did you get it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
Really? Other than the screen rotation it seemed fine to me. The page loading might be more due to his signal/location but i wasnt paying attention.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
I think they also mentioned that they had a final build test unit, but I don't know if that makes a difference or not.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
Screen rotation, definitely (check http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6183)

Another thing I noticed was what could possibly be a bug that I have never seen in other reviews. Right in the middle of the video clip, when the guy sweeps his finger across, the screen doesn't turn transparent to show icons in the middle. Instead, the home screen is stuck while the bottom strip works

Hopefully, that's due to the device being pre-release

The remappable ptt button seems useful, though
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] weaselcossey:
I've never used that, or any Treo, but I seriously doubt its PERFECTLY designed. The Fuze has alot more stuff packed inside of it than that Treo. The only way to really enjoy music through any phone/PPC that I have used is through a headset. My preference is Plantronics Voyager 855.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
the rotation speed on there was rather slow but with the tweaks used on original touch pro they should work as well on the fuze right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nthdgreee:
There seems to be one here. Kinda pricey though.

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa16trmimmec.html

edit: For clarification this is for an SDHC card, not a SD card. I just wanted to point that out in case you really meant SD.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
I JUST GOT IT!!!! called an at&t authorized seller, and they just had received one!! i ran down there and just picked it up! its awesome, still getting used to it, however, the screen seems very un-responsive.... i have to tap really hard to click things. whatever, still getting used to it!

if u guys have any questions, or want pics, let me know

omar
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JRMX:
Fuze demo model vs Diamond

I took a quick look at a non-operational demo of the Fuze at my local At&t store near Akron, Ohio today. Got the usual "soon" for sales inventory. I really did not care for all the shiny black plastic, everywhere. :( When I was handed the phone it was full of prints and smears.

Too bad, the US Diamond looks and feels much more elegant with the matte finish on the sides and back and does not show prints. At least there is no chrome. As noted earlier, the fuze also has the faceted back which compounds the print smear effects. In comparing them side by side, the Fuze thickness does not seem so bad, it certainly does not feel like a brick, very reasonable form factor for what you get.

Appearences aren't everything, but I'll just be envious of the keyboard and additional memory and keep the Diamond for now and look to the next generation. Think I'll google Android and see what the fuss is all about.:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] c0nn0rxx:
Nice! Can you post some pictures of the phone and/or an unboxing?

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
ya prove it , sorry for the doubt. .. . haha
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gondalguru:
Congratulations. You are the first one to say that you got the fuze and everybody else is still waiting for it to be released for 11th of Nov.

Some pictures will be nice as a proof.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
where do you live?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nthdgreee:
I just went on rampant calling spree. Unfortunately still nothing. Although, every single store I talked with said they expect it any day now. What a difference a few days makes. The stores go from not even hearing about it to all of sudden knowing what I'm talking about.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
i'm located in the ft. lauderdale area, and i may know of a store in pompano that you may be able to get them.. any questions, let me know

ou may be able to get them.. any questions, let me know
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bizybone:
Grat

Congrats on the phone omar. I am planning on buying one, unfortunately I believe my current contract expires in June/2009 :( So I will have to settle for the unlocked versions going for $700+
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
god im jealous
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gondalguru:
How much did you pay for it (if I may ask this here...)?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
ya, no problem, i ended up paying 370-something with tax (349.99 plus tax) and then you get a $50 mail in rebate. this is with re-signing a new 2 year contract
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Do you have all the same programs mentioned in the WMExperts video? What games are on the unit? Is the PTT button remappable using the native software?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bizybone:
Wait, so from somebody in my position I could get the phone for ~$370 if I run to a retail ATT store? (when its officially released ofcourse)

I wouldn't mind having to resign a 2 year contract.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Please tell me it came with a screen protector. Thats all for now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
also would like to know if ptt is remappable out of the box

alsoo have you changed the tf3d themes and is that working fine?

try out gyrator 2 and see if the screen rotation is better then in the wmexperts review

thankss
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
i really havent found any option to remap the ptt button yet, but havent really played around with it a lot yet either about the screen protector, yes it has one, but not installed, you gotta apply it urself
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dodgebj2:
Comes with the crappy ATT box. You dont even get the nice HTC box/ :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
hopefully there will be a 3rd party back so we dont have to put up with that faceted fingerprint magnet for too long. i actually did like the sprint style except the chrome sides which was a dealbreaker for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MikeGL2:
Thanks for the response. I am glad to see that it exists, but at $140 or nearly double the price, I will probably just go with an 8gb for now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Raspster:
Not sure if it has been posted.

http://wmexperts.com/reviews/smartphones/att_fuze_handson_video_and_gal.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pinktaco:
I went to local att store today. While I walk in I saw the UPS guy dropping off lot off boxes. I think to my self. Thats got be Fuze. So I walk around to check if they have any dummy Fuze they didn't so I walk out. Then few mins later I came back in and ask the girl that worked there about fuze.

Me- Do you know when Fuze is coming out?

Her- No

Other girl that works there- Says while pointing back says aren't those the one.

Me- So when is it coming out.

Her- We dont know.

I guess they want to keep it a secret. lol