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[Touch HD General] leek:
dunno.

In my testing so far it seems to be fast enough. See other threads.

The HD is very usable. The Omnia is for a child's hands, is too slippery, and is easily dropped.

HD is lacking a good camera, but I don't buy phones for their cameras.

Maybe you didn't ask it the right way. I'm just guessing :confused:

Yes, it's good for smaller hands.

Don't dismiss that too easily. Bigger screen means everything to some of us, even more than GPS, camera, 3G, etc.

A D-PAD just takes up valuable screen real estate for me. I have no use for a D-PAD. I suppose if you're trying to play shooters that would be a problem :rolleyes:

The font sizes are customizable, and should never factor into whether you are going to buy a smaller or larger screen phone.

A stylus is essential for maximum productivity, instead of big stumps. Luckily, the HD stylus doesn't require prying it out with your fingernails to remove it.

No touch screen.

X1 is too small a screen. Needless keyboard. Us stylus writers don't care for that misappropriation :D

I'm a minimalist: I disable TouchFlo, and use Start + Magic Button. No fancy icons or "panels". Today is filled with just a few essential items, such as Mail, Communicator, Calendar, connectivity, and time.

I don't know enough about the X1 Today screen, so I don't know whether I'd like it or not. When you have a CAB ready, let us know.

A minimum screen size of 3.5"is a requirement for me. Small screens strain eyes and make blunt fingers seem even blunter. Low-res but large screens prevent web pages and emails from displaying well.

The HD is the first WinMo GSM phone in 1.5 years to have a 3.5" screen and VGA or higher resolution, without being too thick or large to fit in a small pocket. This is because it uses the space wisely, instead of cramming D-Pads and keyboards onto it.

Hold on, the X1 does not have HD spec.

HD: 3.8" screen, X1: 3.0" screen

HD: .5" thick, X1: .7" thick

The 3.0" screen pretty much kills the X1 for me.

The HD's camera is worthless, but I don't buy phones to use them as cameras, even occasionally. Only if there was a once-in-a-lifetime chance and I had to capture something or lose it, would I consider using a phone camera. Otherwise I'll use D-SLR.
[Touch HD General] veloaudio:
So overall you prefer the X1 to the HD?
[Touch HD General] SiliconS:
I got the joke, boba. ;)
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
I've ordered a Touch HD. I've been dealing with GPS lag on my TOuch Pro since day 1...its when you are further ahead than where the gps is reporting you to be by 3-5 seconds.

Can you report if the Touch HD has GPS lag or not..and what gps applications you tested? I've herd Google so far is the only one that lags on the HD.
[Touch HD General] Acelister:
I answered that in a topic about it... The HD supports Line 1 and 2, the Omnia with Orange software does not. With generic software, it does though. Not too strange, right? ;)
[Touch HD General] !SINGH!:
Indeed... I have read the comments...

I like the touch HD.. its a good attempt. Poor is the fact that with a little layout change.. the bottom 4 buttons could easily have had the X1/omnia type optical pad put on aswell.

Therefore.. you;d have a control for volume/up and down.. and skip forward and back when in coreplayer/mediaplayer.. seeing as it is very much penned as a media/internet/3g work/play horse / Iphone direct competitor.

I think the HD would be better if i could get a rom stripped of the large menu's everywhere... and get it to run as a PDA and then add large menu's/enable/disable.. and even better.. if you choose a layout that needs finger use.. or if your current layout warrants stylus

As for the Spec of X1 and HD being same... give or take a bit of ram ..i was on about internal goods.

Keyboard..i'm used to the TYTN II size... so.. moving to a more compact one.. has caught me out a few times...

But.. i for one.. did like the X1 panels.... i think it's thinking out of the box... (SE could easily have taken the TF3d...and re-skinned it.. but didn't)

I have done a proof of concept... that makes the X1 Panels (kinda) work on a HD

Anyways...

I got the panels kinda working...

It's only a proof of concept.. and after a reboot.. i cannot access them.. something freaky going on....

It shows it working. and quicker than the X1... just slightly.. but quicker.. All panels have been tried.. and work.. fish.. google... sony.. live (new panel from SE...)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=443723

have a look... I think they look 100 times better than TF3d.
[Touch HD General] nin2thevoid:
I don't want to make this reply sound as a flame but seriously....

It's a misconception that a phone NEEDS any UI hardware buttons at all. We can pretend that the iPhone is crap all we want but it demonstrates how to make a good interface. Imagine putting a DPad on there... The screen would be little over half the size making it uncontrollable, and yes, then you suddenly would require a DPad or a stylus to navigate it, because your "big stump/club of a finger" certainly wouldn't cut it.

For the blind? On so many winmo phones I need a freaking stylus to find a contact, which is stupid. I've never seen a Blackberry or an iPhone require a stylus to find a contact... or for anything at all for that matter... Thank goodness they now feature devices with huge screens and great UI's so that I can use my big, clumsy stumps of fingers to GET WORK DONE

What do you mean with a bit better? Is the camera application better, as in does it have better features? Because certainly the camera application does not make your picture any more "brilliant"... The picture is a direct feed from the sensor which you can manipulate but you can't make the quality any better.

"Touch HD spec" is a little more than just hardware, and even that just doesn't match with the samsung... Why would anybody buy a phone because of specs alone? Any good smartphone has GPS, WIFI, fast processor, 3.5G, what not. Care. The silly Omnia interface versus the HD's touch flo for "blind people"? I'd take the HD every time.
[Touch HD General] mndgz:
HD power consumption

how is the HD's battery holding up? can you get at least one day out of it with decent usage?
[Touch HD General] veloaudio:
Would love to know this as well. If battery life is good my Xperia may be going back (nothing wrong with the Xperias battery BTW).
[Touch HD General] !SINGH!:
I totally disagree.. The Pad i am talking about is the 10mm x 8mm high square pad found on the omnia and X1. the simple touch sensative pad... not the rocker around it. Samsung have done it fine.. and if the 4 keys were spaced...this would have been perfect nested inbetween...

just out of interest.. how do you skip forward on a video you are playing in Coreplayer?

oh.. you drop to windowed view.. then skip forward.. and replay.. well.. thats crap. the x1.. i just swipe over the square pad side to side for forward and back.. and up and down for volume. T.I.D.Y!

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I agree.. but this should be a choice!... EVERYONE on here , wants to alter or change the standard form shipped by HTC, To make it more usable for each person.

That is what this whole place is about..

Taking what HTC have.. and make it different for differnt people.

I like the big ease factor buttons..and menus.. but maybe some would like a more tidy.. more informative display and they would rather use a stylus at times.

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"The Camera application is better... and has more options..the original has pants all"

"Touch HD spec" is a little more than just hardware, and even that just doesn't match with the samsung... Why would anybody buy a phone because of specs alone? Any good smartphone has GPS, WIFI, fast processor, 3.5G, what not. Care. The silly Omnia interface versus the HD's touch flo for "blind people"? I'd take the HD every time.[/QUOTE]

As i said earlier.. everyone to their own.... The omnia interface... is pants. That was declared as a better frontend. But M2d goes on.. and also the SPB shell.. which is good enough for that phone.

Anyone want to chuck another log on... ? anyone with marshmallows.?
[Touch HD General] indup:
harvsingh, your modesty knows no bounds.

jealous? no. like someone said i couldnt give a flying _ _ _ _.
[Touch HD General] nin2thevoid:
I sure as heck can... Not so with the Diamond though. Well, decent usage is not what I threw at it, more like overusage, as I used internet ALL the friggin time on some days, which drains it as fast as when you'd be calling or watching video.

I did a lot of browsing and used wifi on the first day, and the bigger 1350 battery got me through the day. I'm still not convinced that the screen eats that much more power, let alone more power than the 1350 (contrary to diamond 900mah) compensates for.

So far it is quite comparable with the Touch Pro, besides the fact that programs seem to run a lot smoother, which means there are a lot of optimizations, which could indicate that apps take less CPU resources than before = less battery consumption even when idle.

In short the battery is really enough for me contrary to just too little (Diamond).

When doing very little other than calling (about 45 minutes a day, little surfing, wifi and bluetooth unused) it's at 70% power by the end of the day, sometimes more
[Touch HD General] nin2thevoid:
True, but this proces is hardly as intricate as you make it sound. Touch screen, slide, touch screen. Also, many other applications got complete support for TS only devices, allowing you to control it by swiping the screen, which CP does nothing with (all you can do is touch to return from fullscreen state). I like the idea of the pad, but I do not require it, as in most situations there are equally fast alternatives presented by the HD's touch interface.

Too easy. There is a substantial difference between customizing a device and wanting to alter what it stands for entirely. If you buy a device that is optimized for finger usage and then use the stylus for each and every single task, you might as well buy a device with a different interface to make such takes easier, such as the Omnia. I like the fact that I only need the stylus for specific applications, not all the friggin time, as using two of those clunky stumps aka fingers contrary to one stylus provides much faster control, a point you should also consider when stating that only having to tap the screen to be able to skip in a video in CP is crap.

Add to that the added real estate and sharpness of a wvga screen and you got a device that is perfect for many people. It's OK if you have a different opinion, but state it as an opinion, not as a fact.
[Touch HD General] veloaudio:
How about Touch HD build quality compared to the Xperia?
[Touch HD General] !SINGH!:
The X1 feels more solid.. but that is down to it having the brushed face..and back...and the only real plasticy bits.. are the keys on the front.

If you are after a simple handset..and want to use your fingers only... then HD. If you text alot..and want the keyb.. the X1.

I was torn.. but i'm in a fortunate position of choosing what i want each time i go out. both are syncd..so i really don't care.. I have two sims on the same number.. so i really don't have any issues at all.

just take out the one i want.
[Touch HD General] !SINGH!:
True. The screen is bigger..

but.

The X1 screen seems alot sharper. same res... smaller size.. will look sharper.

X1 vs HD

both were made cos they fill differnt gaps in the market. The difficulty arrives when its time to choose between the 2. Both have plus's ..both have againsts...

as for gui....

TF3d was ported to X1... runs very well.... except in landscape on reply to text...

(minor... very minor...)

I have been working to level the field today.. on porting X1 panels to Touch HD.. and managed a proof of concept.. It works.. and maybe if i can finish it.. i may carry the HD more...
[Touch HD General] veloaudio:
I've been using an iPhone 2G and got tire of it so I got an Xperia. I switched back to my iPhone for the day and I think I miss the screen so Ive been thinking about getting the HD. I like the build quality of the Xperia and having US 3G (1900) is nice. Although, there is something to be said about no moving parts like the iPhone and HD. I don't know what to do know :confused:

Any difference in call quality or dropped calls between the HD and Xperia?
[Touch HD General] skunker:
And yet your digital camera sucks. :rolleyes:
[Touch HD General] townkat:
can you please detail this ?

1. does x1 camera app record vga 30fps also on hd ?

2. how did you port the camera app ?

3. what else can you say about it ?

thnx alot
[Touch HD General] sna:
any luck getting the korean omnia? How much are they going for anyway?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] matheus_sc:
Hi, which. Contry uses owo multi csc? Using mexico here. Using because my device is from brazil, and updates there is very very slow.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] gav83collins:
i know that a peru version uses the owo csc, heres the link

Model	SM-S908E
Model Name	Galaxy S22 Ultra
Country	PERU (PEO)
Version	Android 12
Changelist	23966523
Build Date	Sat, 26 Mar 2022 12:44:26 +0000
Security Patch Level	2022-04-01
Product code	PEO
PDA	S908EXXU1AVCJ
CSC	S908EOWO1AVCJ
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] matheus_sc:
Thanks, but updates are slow too like brazil.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] gav83collins:
you could try cycling through country to find a more reliable one for eg

Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra (SM-S908E) - ANC - S908EXXU1AVA7 firmware

Fast download latest Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra firmware SM-S908E from Argentina with S908EXXU1AVA7 and Android version 12

www.sammobile.com

after a little more research i think only south american countries have the owo csc , but i could be wrong

,you could try using adb sideload to push update.zip after you download updates manually
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] razercortex:
That's a hilarious CSC lol
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] matheus_sc:
Why?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] razercortex:
Because OWO is supposed to be a cute face :LOL:
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
Google Pixel 4 XL

- Your warranty is now void.
- You have been warned.
- Use at your own risk.

Introduction:

This is the Official Lineage OS 19.1 thread for the Google Pixel 4 XL.

Downloads:

Please follow the install instructions in your device's Wiki page linked below exactly, and make sure your device's firmware matches the required firmware listed.

coral​

coral - My unofficial with Google Apps/Pixel goodies included. Passes SafetyNet by default. OTA's roll roughly once a month. Support not guaranteed or implied.​

If you don't follow these instructions, or use 3rd party add-ons (like Magisk) please don't expect support here.

Known Bugs:

None.​

Find any? Report them according to this guide.​

Notes:

The only supported GApps package at the moment is MindTheGapps, linked on our Wiki page about gapps.​

Firmware is shipped in the ROM package for this device, so no need to worry about updating it on your own!​

Kernel Source: https://github.com/LineageOS/android_kernel_google_msm-4.14
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] krabban:
Need to flash this asap! 👍
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] A18415:
Brilliant Stuff. (y)(y)(y)

Thank you.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] insestito:
LOL!

GREAT!!!!

It has OTA? or need manual updates through PC.

Thanks dude
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Matzeus:
So I just installed LineageOS 18.1 a week ago.

Let me get this straight:

In order to upgrade to LineageOS 19 i simply install the build via adb + the gapps?

No wiping or anything required?

Or can i just install your unofficial build @npjohnson via adb and im done? Because gapps are included in your version.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
OTA works, but not from 18.1
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
follow the upgrade guide on the wiki.

If you installed officials, you can't install mine without a wipe first.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
AWESOME! Thank you! I will be testing LOS A12 soon and will report back!!
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] insestito:
Installed...

Thanks devs

(Nova launcher on vídeo)
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
This ROM is AWESOME! The only hiccups I hit early on was now playing was failing to start, with WiFi failures and not seeing my internet either WiFi or mobile and wouldn't start. I just clicked the WiFi button from within the now playing and joined my non 5G WiFi and it popped on and immediately started the DB download and worked! Thank you and AWESOME work! SafetyNet passes with NF working, ETC, NO issues, NO bugs I can find!!

This is the LOS version with manual MindTheGapps plus Universal SafetyNetFix plus RIRU, that's what is needed for safteynet to pass. This LOS runs fantastic!

Edit note update, I'm not sure it's working yet. I'm getting the download start over and over and it hasn't picked up anything yet, but that's not unusual when not playing music.

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[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
its touchy - if you used the unofficial "manual MindTheGapps plus Universal SafetyNetFix plus RIRU, that's what is needed for safteynet to pass." - none of that is used here. it's custom stuff.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
Maybe so but it's what you need to do to pass safetynet but I don't think it's a ROM issue. I think it's a gapp framework issue. And no I used the official LOS method with gapps. It failed out of the box with nothing but OS and GAPPs so it's not coming from that if that's where you were going.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
ah, of course on official.

unofficial one passes without anything extra.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
Understood, and you will find the majority of us will prefer LOS official, vs an aftermarket, unofficial project. I like to run LOS directly with my own choice of GAPPs so I get it from LOS website and usually opengapps. That's why I think the issue isn't with the ROM but the GAPPs, I'll dig into it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
No, the issue is that this device uses hardware, backed safety net, and without patching frameworks you can't bypass that, my ROM does so, the official one cannot and will not
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
That's why I run the safetynet fix with riru so I can run LOS from official LOS with my GAPPs choice (usually opengapps) but they're not 12 yet. Once I'm in a safetynet pass state, everything is certified, NF shows up and the works. This is the STOCK/LOS version (which most of us will take/use) over an unofficial/personal project:

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[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] htth211101:
I like the newer version of LOS. Worked perfectly on my Pixel phone. however, my device can not pass CTS profile and Widewine is still L3 even Netflix can download normally
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
Use the unofficial. It has both those working.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
You need safetynet fix plus riru to pass SN then you'll be certified and NF will work and popup in the store. I wrote it a post above your question. NF will be SD though with L3.

Everyone here, I apologize, I was tired when I wrote this the other day but I realized that I misspelled lsposed zygisk and my custom typo dictionary filled in riru for my older comments regarding riru/zygisk. Riru is the not the right term so I'm putting the magisk module list again to visualize what I meant (hopefully I didn't confuse anyone with this wording mishap).

You only need safetynetfix and zygisk lsposed (lsposed used to be riru) so that's where the typos come into play here (self corrected from custom dictionary):

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[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] ZeroKool76:
Coming from A13 and felt like joining the fray. Is it safe to assume that stable 12 will work just as well for a base, rather than flashing 12.1 beta?

I was on 12L for a bit and I don't recall the firmware being any different, and using a stable build to flash from seems to make more sense.

Any confirmation would be appreciated.

Thank you for the build.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] xorrgnlusrx:
can you please run adb shell pm list packages and post your pkgs, i want to compare,

i have a verizon pixel , change to australian firmware , but no matter how many times i wipe , remove the verizon/sprint bloat all these sus strange applications keep reinstalling. it's driving me mental.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] xorrgnlusrx:
im running the latest LOS, with magisk ... phone works fine all functioning just cant get rid of bloat PERNAMENTLY , period i can remove it while the device is on, but every time i flash another rom, the BLOAT returns.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
It's PlayAutoConfig.apk that reinstalls them every time. That's what it does lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] xorrgnlusrx:
Ok , i have searched on LOS 19.1 and cannot find it on here.. do you know what it's package name is.

OR are you referring to PlayAutoConfig.apk is installed ON THE stock pixel firmware. if so can do you know where i find that apk ok stock firmware so i can remove it from the zip before i flash the file so it doesnt exist.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
It is in Google apps packages.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] xorrgnlusrx:
in los or stock google firmware ??? what is the package name. eg com.android.*????* it doesnt show up

with adb shell pm list packages. what is the directory to it. Thanks. * los does not contain google apps so i assume you are referring to stock firmware is this correct ??
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
Whatever Gapps package you're installing is what is installing it.

It could just be a sub service of GMS on your specific version.

Probably no easy way to disable it. Just uninstall the apps.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
you need magiskprops for official to pass so I imagine the unofficial could also use it. try it with unofficial, I imagine you can force set it with magiskprops, set option 1 and 2 to pixel 4 XL, then you will pass:
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] insestito:
Whats up mate. Still using LOS for daily use?
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] Syntaxerror_s:
How do you install Google Camera on this ROM ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
Preinstalled on unofficial or you go to play store and download it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] xorrgnlusrx:
you need to install gcam services , you can find it on f-droid, and you need the gcam mod px . search and you will find it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] xorrgnlusrx:
Just to let you know it wont run on Vanilla LOS without the services, or microg.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] npjohnson:
Use gcamservices. Like MicroG but just for gcam
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] GROOVYJOSHCLARK:
install GAPPs after ROM (follow LOS step by step), then open play store, DL camera, don't do the steps above unless you refuse GAPPs. If you dont want GAPPs, good luck running the ROM and using Google apps that require the framework. Meaning, you need GAPPS, so once you install GAPPs, login to Play, DL camera, done. If you choose not to use Google Apps (framework) then its another story altogether requiring a different method (FDROID), but use GAPPs.
[Google Pixel 4 XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Oth] gigamak:
the phone in the hands emits short vibrations and takes screenshots all the time, how to remove it?