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[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
;)

I'll put it on the todo list!

hivesnl, I'm sorry I didn't answer earlier! Are all your question sorted out thanks to snark_be?

Yes, that's great. If NetRipper will release a new version of TorchButton without the limitation I will of course upgrade hTorch as well to also remove the limitation.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
TorchButton updated to v1.2 so hTorch will be updated soon to include the new version

Friends,

NetRipper just updated TorchButton v1.2 which enlarged the maximum timeout from 300 seconds to 86400 seconds (a day). I will therefore update hTorch very soon to include the new version of TorchButton!

Ciao,

DeepThought
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
[hTorch v2.2 released!]

Hallo my friends!

I just uploaded hTorch v2.2 and updated the first two postings accordingly. Please read them before updating.

Now, that the 5min limitation is gone I will try to implement the "force the device to stay on"-feature ASAP. I try to release v2.3 with this new feature soon.

Ciao,

DeepThought

PS.: Last but not least - THANK YOU ALL for your support! Specially NetRipper!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
- Installed

- Tested

- Working fine

- Many thanks! :)

Eventually, could you include another button, with a call to the "Bright" feature?

I just tried the "Bright" feature using the program delivered with Torch and had the bad idea to look at the LED slightly. I still have weird green patterns in my eyesight as I type this :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Quake3000:
Greate app and its working greate on my htc touch pro:)

thanks alot for the handy app:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] del4:
AppToDate support?

Great job, thanks; looking forward to v2.3! Say, to make future updates simpler, any chance of incorporating support for AppToDate? Think it's mainly just constructing an XML file and putting it in the AppToDate directory...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] orlandojumpoff:
when does this support dialog come up? is this a one time thing or do you have to click ok every time you use the app?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
:D

I already thought of that myself and this will probably also be a change of the next version. I'll put it on the todo list, that's for sure.

Thank you mate!

I'll look into that!

The about dialog only comes up when you tab the programs name on the left bottom side. It's not a "SPAM-popup" that comes up automatically every not and then! ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] WDawn:
I vote for the "bright" button too! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
;)

I've tested the bright LED myself yesterday and it's really great!

This will definitely one of two changes for the next release. The second is the "force the device to stay on"-feature. Unfortunately I have a lot todo right now so please don't expect the new release before the next weekend (but hopefully not much later than that).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
Hi, have you noticed that NetRipper has also released a C# library for easy access to the led control? If you used it in hTorch, you wouldn't need to include Torch with your app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Yes I noticed. Actually NetRipper was so kind to send me the libary about a week ago before even releasing it. But unfortunately I didn't manage to use it. I'm not really experienced in C++ or C# and I just was not able to get the library running within VB.NET. Unfortunately - I would also have preferred this solution.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Friends, WDawn just posted something really interesting within the TorchButton thread (WDawn, I hope you don't mind that I quote you here).

I think that would be a even better solution than preventing the device from idling into standby. So in my humble opinion that feature could be striked trough and it would just suffice to have to buttons. One for normal LED and a second one for bright LED. What do you think?

And if you agree, there is another question. Which LED-mode should be used as default (in other words which mode should be started automatically on program start)?

Thanks in advance for your replys!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
I vote for: regular mode (non-bright) by default at start, bright mode on demand (with a button).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Sorry, but please forget my first question. Also the bright LED turns off on standby. Not instantly like the normal LED but a after about 10-20 seconds - at least on my device.

So the only question is the second one. Which LED mode should be the default mode?

@snark_bee

Thanks for your quick reply!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
Same for me. And it turns on again when switching the PDA back on.

Is there a "low intensity" mode too, so we can use the TP as a "night light" or "pilot light"? :o
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Exactly.

No, currently there isn't. Neither in the TorchButton app nor in the TorchButton library. But you could repost in the TorchButton thread. Maybe NetRipper could come up with such a LED mode?!

Are you a pilot or a man who likes to entrap women with the soften light of his phone? :p

(just kidding! :) - couldn't resist)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
:D

Just a father that would like a dim light to check sometimes if his baby is sleeping well ;) .
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
LOL :D

I've just looked after my 2 year old daughter while testing the bright LED - not a good idea! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] TeslaTrav:
Got my ATT Fuze today, it works like a charm! Thanks for the great (and very useful) app!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] djshotty:
Thankyou very much for this extremely useful app.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] WDawn:
Just rechecked it and indeed it turns off at about 20 secs. My mistake, since it didn't turn off instantly as the normal version, it thought it would go on.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you, I'm glad you like it!

No problem mate!

I also only noticed it on second try. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] MenosOcho:
Great work DeepThought

Could you add support for AppToDate in the next release?

Thank you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you! ;)

It's already on the todo list.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Just to keep you posted - hTorch v3.0 in development now

Today I managed it to spend some time on the next hTorch version. It's by far not completed but I've made huge progress. I'll update the first post to keep you informed about the current state of development.

Actually the next version will be v3.0 because I once again have completely rewritten the code. Basically because I no longer use the TorchButton application but the new TorchButtonLib. This makes hTorch v3 a fully independent program (which of course still wouldn't exist if it wasn't for NetRippers great support - once again: Thank You!).

Ciao,

DeepThought

@Mods: You might want to move this thread into the new Raphael Software forum?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
I'm looking forward to the next version. If you need closed beta testers, count me in! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Hello my friend!

Thank you for the offer! I will PMail you when I have something worth showing.

In the meantime I can give you two screenshots as a little teaser ;)

Ciao,

DeepThought :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] unclefishbits:
like the hitchhiker's reference sir!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
v3.0 available really soon now!

Alright, v3.0 is now feature complete!

I will now to extensive tests myself and if they went successfully further tests in a closed group of testers.

Depending on how bug free I've managed to program the new version should be available tomorrow at the latest I would guess.

Please have a look at the first two posts for updates and change log.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
hTorch v3.1 released

hTorch v3.1 released

​

I'm proud to present the next major version of hTorch - Version 3.1. Please read the first (updated) post for detailed instructions about the changes.

Here is the new Main Screen with usage information (in this version some hardware buttons are also mapped):

I look forward to hear about your first impressions about it!

So long,

DeepThought
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] dinan:
Very nice app. Just tried it on my X1i, will definitely be keeping it. Start up time takes a bit of time though... any way to speed it up?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you!

I already tried to speed the startup up as much as possible. But the remaining delay of 1-2 seconds is due to the fact that it's the app is a .NET application. So on program start it has to load up the framework which causes the delay.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Vladimyr:
Very nice app...

I vote to implement the blinking feature i've read about.

It will make hTorch almost perfect :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] owilsky:
Works very well for me, thanks for that!

Could you please fix the setup cab file? The install path seems to be hard coded to "Program Files" while here in Germany we have "Programme". So please use the API or some kind of variable to get the correct path.

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] WDawn:
Man, I thought this cab was great, but now it even better! Thank you! My TP is now officially a fully functional flashlight. Great stuff to help me find my bed when i get home late from the pub and don't wanna wake my girlfriend :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
It's on the todo list mate. But I have to wait for my new VB.net programming handbook to arrive before I can start programming this feature. ;)

You are right, sorry for that! I just uploaded a fixed cab. Thank you for reporting!

Thank you mate! I must admit it somehow makes me proud to know that a few people all over the world use my app while stumbling to bed. :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Pantaloonie:
That's exactly what I use it for....

Great little app, thanks DeepThought.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] del4:
Another great update, thanks! About the only thing missing for me is AppToDate support.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
You're welcome, I'm glad you like it!

AppToDate support is now on top of the todo list. So the next version will support it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] guru_fordy:
Great program for the X1 thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] starstreak:
Not to be negative, but the newest version seems to take longer to launch and has ALOT of ways to use it. But can you make one simple like if you would make a version that has one button that turns on(low)/off/on(high)/off. That way I can stick it as a quick launch launch button and it should be quicker to load?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
Use one of the older versions, they are available in post #2 on the first page.

But for me, it takes only a couple seconds to start the latest version, not a big difference from older versions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] starstreak:
Right,right. I'm using the 1st version that had a button for dim, and one for bright. I was hoping he had one that would laternate between the two brightness.. Oh wait. don't do the dim/off/bright/off for button presses. Do one that dim/bright/off. That would be easier. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Fat Boy:
Wow! thanks so much, you have taken a simple idea and made it an extrordinary app, thanks for your time and effort, this is a must have for me and you have really made it usable and speical. I'm looking forward to the future revisions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mtnmedic:
WHY would anyone want to put it on the storage card? It's only 120kb in size. Anyone with these devices from HTC knows they work better when programs are installed in the main memory.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] mtnmedic:
VERY NICE!

Tres' Cool! Just what I've been waiting for! Nicely done. THANK YOU!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] MCXSC:
Anyone who hast tested it on a HTC Elf?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thanks for letting me know. So I'll put the X1 on the first posting as supported device.

Constructive criticism help me to make my app better, so it's not something negative for me. ;)

I admit, that it might seem a bit odd that most functions can be accessed via three ways. Hardware-Button / OnScreen-Button / SoftMenu. But from the responses I've received a lot of people where not very happy with the OnScreen buttons because they could not easily be reached with the thumb for everyone. So I've added the SoftMenu buttons. But since v3.0 it's now also possible to turn of the screen, so it makes scence to make the on/off functionality available through hardware buttons, so I added these. The additional possibilitys didn't blow up the program much. It's just one line of code more (because the function is just programmed once and all other buttons are referring to the existing function).

As for the load time:

I was not very happy with it myself so I'm monitoring this very detailed since the beginning. And belife it or not but v1.x had the longest startup time. It took about 2,9 secs to load. In v2.x I've maneged it to clean up the code quite a bit (the program lost 25% in size) and so I've succeeded in reducing the startup-time to about 2,6 secs. With v3.x my results where slightly longer than v2.x - about 2,7 secs. What blew up the code most was the function to turn off the screen.

But most of the loading time is due to the fact that it's a .NET application. I've also done some tests with an completely empty app to verify that with certainty - the exe file had only 12kb. The loading-time was still 2,2 seconds.

I personally only use the hardware buttons. When the app loads up the LED already is on, so the only thing I do is turn off the display via D-pad:down. When I want to have a bright LED it just push d-pad:up or if I want to turn of the LED again d-pad:action. So I can always access exactly the function I want to use. I think a lot of users wouldn't want to have the dim/off/bright/off for button solutions because it adds more "clicks" to access the status you want to use.

Thank you mate! Laud like this really keeps me going! ;)

I thought so myself therefore I didn't test the installation onto storage card when releasing the fist version. But still it should be possible to install on the card as well and this bug has been fixed with v1.1 (and all later ones of course). So everyone can install it wherever (s)he likes.

Tnx! ;)

When I recall it correctly Elf is not a VGA-device right? If not, than the current version will not be supported. But you could still try it because you should still be able to use the softmenu buttons.

It woukd interest me if the LED functionality works on the Elf. If so I might release a QVGA-version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Jiggs1337:
I have an idea, but it may not work.

But first, I want to say i love your app. Its really simple, yet perfect for what its supposed to do.

The only problem i have, like some have said, is the time it takes to load up. I have not timed it accurately, but its more than 2.7 seconds. about 5 seconds (TouchPro). Which is long when you're stumbling around in a dark room :).

My idea was that as soon as we press the htorch button, the dim light comes on.

When I press the original TorchButton, the light came on instantly. Would it not be possible to make the light turn on immediately, and then load the interface? Maybe even load TorchButton first (or similar, developed by you), which turns the light on immediately, and then your interface which can then be used to brighten it up, turn it off, etc?

This way, we can see immediately, and seconds later, control the flash light.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you!

:eek: That is strange. I've done my timing tests as precise as possible. I always started with a soft reset. After the system was booted up again I waited until it went to standby (2mins in my case) to assure, that the system is loaded up completely. And right after that I've made my timing measurement. And before I've done some different measurement I've repeated the whole procedure. It might be thought, that the .NET Compact Framework somehow works faster on my device because it's already build-in into ROMeOS² :confused:

I know. That's because NetRipper has done his work in a proper programing language namely C++ ;). It's a native PPC application without any playful interface. The speed lag of hTorch is due to the fact that it's an .NET application which not only loads the app itself but parts of the .NET framework as interpreter as well whereas TorchButton works fully independent.

Unfortunately that's not possible, sorry! The only way to speed up the app would be not to use .NET anymore. But since it's the framework which produces the huge lag on startup this can not be reduced. I could send you a completely empty .NET application to prove it to you ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
I confirm this: hTorch loads in about 2 seconds. It's fast enough for me. And I also use ROMeOS² so .NET CF is also in ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] WDawn:
Ditto, loads in about 2 seconds. I keep it running in the background, uses about 400K, that's less than activesync or Outlook email. And TP has plenty of memory.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Fat Boy:
Its about 3 seconds for me and thats not bad at all. I am currently not using a custom rom and just installed .net.

It would take me 30 seconds to find my other flashlight and turn it on:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Jiggs1337:
No no, I believe you :), I just thought maybe that was possible. I timed it, and its about 3 seconds, not 5, sorry :). Just feels longer.

But as I said, its a really great app, and I don't mind the waiting time too much, I just thought I'd suggest that, in case it was a possibility.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] ricky_619:
Great apps! Now i can easily find my way in the dark... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you, and no need to apologize! It was an absolute worthy suggestion, you couldn't know that in this case I already spent a lot of time on this topic. And it could easily have been different. ;)

Thanks for all the positive feedback, I really appreciate it!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] metznerm:
Hi, newbie myself I have a similar problem. What a ".NET control panel" are you referring to?

cheers, m@
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
This one. ;)

HTH
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] starstreak:
Did I read that right? This works for the X1? Cool. I was thinking of getting that. Now I can use it with that too.

Anybody who hates Windows Mobile needs to just get the hate for ms out of their system. WinMo ain't perfect, but without it, look at how we couldn't use one app on another phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] BigCall:
Man you do it a great job!This is very practical application.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Yes, you did. I wasn't able to test it myself unfortunately but it has been reported by several users.

Thank you sir! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] migsims:
This little app rocks, oh and the the best part is how well in matches the touchflo3D UI. Great stuff! THANKS!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thanks! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] metznerm:
Thank you, DeepThought - for the fast response and your work in general. You just increased the number of your fans. Looking forward to more corespondence in future. cheers, m@
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you mate, always nice to hear that! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DavidMal:
Thank you for this app, it is easy to use and realy handy. Way better than turning LED on in photo mode every couple minutes :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] kwill:
great app my friend. very useful and thanks for the time spent on it:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
hTorch v3.2 released!

I'm pleased to announce, that v3.2 has been released. It now adds the long awaited AppToDate support.

Changes and download link (which has been moved to an external site) can be found on the first to postings.

Ciao,

DeepThought
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Thank you Sirs, I'm glad you like it! All the positive feedback makes all time spent on it worthy time! ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] iceman4357:
I have the 3.1 and it is a great program. What does "apptodate" get me in the new 3.2?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] snark_be:
AppToDate is an application that helps to check for supported applications if you have the latest version and, if not, download and install the new ones.

Thanks DeepThought, version installed, and AppToDate support is working fine! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] tico84law:
I don't know what i am doing wrong, but the my phone keeps telling me " missingMethodException Method not found: get_NewLineSystem.Environment. Please let me know how badly i screwed up. Thanx!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
For everyone who is interested in using AppToDate HERE is a bit more information about it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
minor bug in cab-file

I've made a tipo while creating the cab-file.

I already exchanged the cab-file on the server with a fixed one, but for everyone who already downloaded hTorch v3.2 before 21:29 (GMT+1), please redownload & reinstall it! Sorry!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Have you installed the .NET Framework 3.5?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] rigg3d:
Works great on my Diamond Touch Pro. Thanks. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] orlandojumpoff:
is there any way to add the timeout back in? im using torchbutton right now but i like this interface... u should definitely add the timeout option if u can cause im sure there are other people that want this safety feature... not cause of the led, but so the battery wont get really hot if it's accidentally left on. we know how hot the pro can get....

also, will you be adding a morse code option like in one of the older flashlight apps? couldnt hurt to have it cause it could be very useful in emergencies..

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] owilsky:
Same wish from me. I switched off the display and also the LED. But my Touch Pro seemed to have stayed on, the next morning my battery was empty.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] Kostas-Pro:
How can I make use of the apptodate capabillity?

I have a few other applications on my pro with apptodate feature but dont know how to make use of it.

Does anyone know what make and model the led on the htc touch pro is?

Deepthought very nice application! Keep on coding!

Thank you very much for sharing!

:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] herg62123:
is it me or can we not download the new 3.2 cab
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] DeepThought:
Currently hTorch is preventing the device from idling into standby as long as hTorch is running. I'm going to change that behavior in the next release so that it's just preventing standby as long as the LED is turned on. I think that's better for most users - right?

As for the timeout: Most users asked me to remove the timeout, when it was available. So I'm not sure if that's a good idea to have it back?!

And regarding the morsecode feature:

I'll put it on the todo list.

You just need to install AppToDate. The download link and some additional information regarding AppToDate can be found HERE.

Tnx! ;)

I think it is you. ;)

You have to click the huge red text in the second posing. I'm going to modify it a bit to make it more clear tough.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps] katsumimi:
Thank you for your great tool.

I want a shortcut to the bright LED mode directly.

or is there command line options?