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[Networking] larsuck:
Bummer that that happened to you. But you are not alone. Softbank has taken an unfair amount of money from lots of people on this board.

First thing to make sure of is that you are signed up for Softbank's Packet Flat-rate Full If you are not signed up for this, the cab will not work. (Well, the cab will work, but Softbank won't allow you to connect using this AP because you haven't signed up for it.) If you are signed up for this Flat-Rate Full thing, then try the next steps.

Go to Start>Settings>Connections>Connections> then click the blue hyperlink that says Manage existing connections. On the Modem tab you may see one or more connections there. Tap and hold on each one and choose delete. You now should have no connections.

Now install the cab linked to at the first of this thread. The Experia might give you the option to install onto a memory card. Do not do this. You must install it into the main memory of the phone.

Go back to Go to Start>Settings>Connections>Connections> and click the blue hyperlink that says Manage existing connections. You should now have a connection called SoftBank. If you do, the cab has worked. If not, then perhaps this cab doesn't work on Xperia - though I highly doubt that.
[Networking] Kevbodian:
Hey larsuk,

So starting today, Feb 1, I am now on the パケット定額フル, I assume this is the 5985 plan.

I am also using the settings in the cab you provided from RayB.

The only question I have is my email is @softbank.ne.jp. When I went to the account info page on my wife's 920sh, it only allowed me to change my email to another @softbank.ne.jp. I would like to call softbank and try to get on the @i.softbank.jp addresses but I am worried they will take issue with the fact I am not using the 923sh I signed up with. Also, I am worried that if they screw up my account, I may be screwed as I am still paying for the 923sh (and I get that 2000en discount each month). If I do like a hardware upgrade, I apparently lose that 2000en discount. I haven't done a hardware upgrade, I just using a diamond from another country. Basically what I am getting at is I am worried they will take away my discount if they find I am on another phone.

Lastly, is it alright if I don't set my HSDPA to disconnect after 1min or 30 seconds; is it alright if it just stays connected?
[Networking] larsuck:
Before I try to answer your questions, I have to ask: is your avatar The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase?

I am pretty sure i.softbank is only for the iPhone. I have a feeling the iPhone uses a different protocol to get its S!Mail and this is the reason for this change. I also have had a feeling that if one could freely switch to this i.softbank address, and if one had the AP, he/she could use an unadulterated version of Arcsoft to access S!Mail. Because frankly, if iPhone can access S!Mail using the i.softbank settings, so can WM.

*DISCLAIMER* Notice I make no assurances in this paragraph. Only conjecture.
[Networking] Kevbodian:
Just what I was looking to read.

I will check my softbank and let you know.

As for the tool I am using, it is the Diamond Config tool (both schaps and the diam config are included in the DIB Diamond rom). You can set it to disconnect after 15, 30 secs or after some minutes. It seems to work.

Cheers,

Kevin
[Networking] vladTKO:
no flat rate service for non-Softbank handsets?

Hello larsuck! first of all, thanks for help with the network setup - i finally get internet on my Xperia. The bad news - I got charged another 20000JPY for yesterday (using the setup provided in a CAB file). Havent spoken to live customer support yet, but let me first ask here - is Softbank alwas going to charge me 200$/day??? I mean, thats crazy!!! Do they have a way to figure out I'm not using a Softbank handset (I bought my Xperia in UK) and will they refuse to apply flat rate to my data packet charges?

Thanks a lot!
[Networking] larsuck:
How are you checking your usage? Are you using My Softbank? If so, they post your usage before any flat rate plans apply.
[Networking] Kevbodian:
I was just going to come in here and hijack the thread, yet again, with this very question. I just checked my softbank and my パケット通信料 is already up to 13000円.

Thanks.

edit: It's really sad they are still using the same packet definition they have used for over 5 years. 5985en at 0.084 en per packet equates to 71250 packets. At 128 bytes a pop, that equates to 9.12 MB. We are all paying $60 a month for the ability to use more than 9MB a month. Compared with other providers' giving in the gigabytes for similar prices.
[Networking] BeeGee_Tokyo:
Hope this is the solution I was searching for

As many foreigners here in Japan, I had chosen Softbank because they have SIM cards that you can put into "usable" phones with English interface.

Of course they don't give you the access codes for the data connection, so I ended up with up to 130.000 Yen :mad: (a month)

Hope this finally works on my HTC Diamond. I will see on my next phone bill.
[Networking] Kevbodian:
Keep in mind you must have the Packet Teigaku Full (パケット定額フル) which caps out at 5985en per month assumingly under some sort of fair use clause.

So I've been meaning to ask... do you pay that 130,000 bill or argue and get it down? I don't think arguing with them is possible because they haven't been taught to think more than they're told about their product(s) (generalization, yes). But seriously, does everyone who incurs these large bills actually pay?

***Not in the mood? Skip to the next set of ***

Sure you sign a contract that says "I agree to your loosely worded definitions of use". Loosely worded = terminology made up on the spot that sounds like something we (they) can charge for = pc site browser/pc direct = browsing from a browser other than the default one that came with your phone = you can't install opera on anything because you will be charged an arm and a leg and also because no sane Japanese person would think to do this = you bought a smartphone but you can't actually install apps on it because we, softbank, haven't agreed to it... but we will still sell the htc diamond because it's black and sexy.

******************

If I got a bill over $2k, I am pretty sure I would argue until the cows come home = not get off the line until they flex.

In my case, I sent my 923sh in for service and I told the guy in the store "I don't need to rent a loaner because I will put my sim into my old phone and use that", he responded with "ok". Then I put it in my diamond and luckily I had the sense to look into the AP settings; I believe many people would just put their sim in and be like "i have packet shihoudai, I'm good... sweet I can watch youtube on this thing". 200,000 Yen later.... (my bill never went over 1man, so I am lucky... but others are not so)
[Networking] larsuck:
I've never heard of anyone who has argued and not had to pay. Resistance is futile.

I have heard of people who have immediately signed up with another provider, then just refused to pay Softbank. Ever. But that when it was still J-Phone, and those people eventually went home to their home countries.
[Networking] Kevbodian:
I will admit I have pulled a talk and run when I was on Docomo in 2001. I left and never went to Docomo again. Although, I wonder if they would ding me after all this time. I have a different passport number now (but still in Chuugoku area).

Then again, they probably dinged my former employer.
[Networking] Kevbodian:
I can feel the fear right now: (click the attachment)

I don't believe any discounts have been applied as of yet. My billing cycle has started again as you can see.
[Networking] larsuck:
It's only money afterall

How about this one? But I'm not worried. ;)
[Networking] Kevbodian:
Lol you have the balls of steel.
[Networking] t-biggins:
I upgraded to the Nokia N95 on softbank yesterday. I played around on google maps, checked my online balance and saw 115,000 yen!!!!

What the hell is going on?? I thought there was a 10,000 cut off and you were meant to get a text message telling you about it. I'm gonna call softbank and try to get them to take it away.

What are my chances?
[Networking] larsuck:
Relax.

Your online balance is before any caps or discounts are applied. If you are using the official Softbank X02NK, then you should be fine. If you are however using any other N95 then you may be in trouble.
[Networking] t-biggins:
Yeah it's a Softbank N95. Thanks for the advice buddy, the softbank website isn't very clear at all.
[Networking] Zgembo:
Scary reports... Softbank sucks big time, but we still give them money... "free-trade" capitalism :(
[Networking] geniusgeng:
guys be carefully

i just got my softbank bill for Feb.

it requests me over 75000yen.

i have argued with softbank, but they refused to cut down the bill.

they insist that i used internet by computer using the network of softbank.
[Networking] larsuck:
More info please!

What access point were you using?

How did you set up your internet connection?

Were you using the flat rate connection in this thread?
[Networking] dejavustation:
The .Cab works but im in troubles

Hi guys!,sorry for my poor english,i just wanna tell you that the connection fix works correctly,i tested on my new touch cruise Iolite (2009) from UK.

Ihave the shihodai plan 5980 i think,and the 2 firts days i used my phone got a 120000 yen bill,the softbank staff send me a advise-mail for each 50000 yen that i used.

So the third day i found this .cab and fixed my connection.

Today mi wife called 157 softbank and ask them how much i used from the third day.... and they saids cero!

so

3/11 - 91.000 yen ...(the day i start use my new phone with softbank sim card)

3/12 - 17.000 yen ...(the day that the mails came,an the day i stop my internet connection using the commanager)

3/13 - 0 yen ... (this day i installed this thread cab around 6 PM)

3/14 - 0 yen ... (i used the gps for three hours and internet too)

3/15 - today my wife called then arund 5 PM.

So today the 91.000 yen bill came to my house,i have two days for pay them,if not,the will cancel my contrat :(

regards!
[Networking] larsuck:
It is easy for me to say this because my contract is not in danger of being canceled, but I advise you not to pay. There may be something (I don't know what, but something) you can do so you don't have to pay. But once you have paid that money, it will never come back.

Also, before they cancel your contract, make sure to sign up with another mobile service provider first.
[Networking] geniusgeng:
i'm so sorry that i didn't clear my situation.

the bill is in the access point which automatically be setuped by touch hd.

and now i can do nothing about it just pay the bill

because i didnt wanna keep any bad record in order to keep my visa in japan.
[Networking] dejavustation:
docomo japan?

Im thinking change to docomo japan...anybody knows is it possible? or i have to use some fix like this .cab on docomo system?,please help.

Regards.
[Networking] fhsieh:
Someone else here has the HT01A (DoCoMo's TPro) and flashed a new ROM to get the English interface (instead of Japanese), but then had trouble connecting to the DoCoMo network again. He tried changing the settings back but he was getting a lot of problems (data would keep disconnecting, certain programs would not connect, etc).

Short answer: yes it's technically possible because DoCoMo has HTC devices after all, but afaik no one is really sure what the exact settings you need to get everything working correctly; and with most people using SoftBank (since for a while its packet-hodai plan was cheaper), you might not get very much help unless you venture onto Japanese forums yourself.

Personally, I'm thinking about trying my luck at getting the iPhone because SoftBank has cut its monthly data plan to 4410yen during the current iPhone promotion; and then just using the SIM card in my TPro.
[Networking] larsuck:
iPhone SIM cards

Careful. Softbank iPhones use a special (専用) SIM card which (I was told) couldn't be used in "regular" phones. I took this to mean one of two things:

1) that the iPhone SIM cards are locked into one specific IMEI or

2) that the iPhone SIM cards use a special AP, different from the one we have here

But by all means, if you want to try it out please do. I think it would be useful knowledge for us all.
[Networking] geniusgeng:
it doesn't work with Iphone's usim of data connecting,I just tried it.
[Networking] larsuck:
How about voice and SMS? Can you use them with the iPhone usim?
[Networking] aro:
New in Japan, imported my HTC Touch Pro

Hi all,

I recently moved to Japan, and have not bothered to sign up with one of the local mobile providers, yet.

My company gave me a cheap standard phone (813SH) from softbank incl a sim card, but no internet plan (not needed for my work).

I immediately put the sim into my european sim unlocked HTC Touch PRO, and it works well on 3G network for calls and sms.

I deleted the standard softbank internet setting to avoid that some of my software goes online causing very high cost.

Now, as I would like to use facebook, goole maps, youtube,... I am looking for a way to get myself a data plan (flatrate of course).

Preferably I would like to have all on on one sim card, so that I do not have to carry two phone, or switch sim every time I want to go online.

Do you know if:

a) I can get softbank to put a second plan onto my current corporate sim card, but sending the invoice for that to my private address (t-mobile in germany offers this kind of dual-sim)?

or

b) use some kind of dual sim adapter to connect two sim card to my touch PRO?

After all your experience with softbank, do you think I should tell them, that I already have a HTC touch PRO, but no from them, or will they not accept to give me a data plan if I do not buy an internet enabled phone from them?

Thanks for your advice.
[Networking] larsuck:
Good idea.

I doubt it. Japanese companies hate anything out of the ordinary like this. But you have to ask them. You might get lucky.

There's lots of these available, and some work for your phone. However, I am pretty sure you will have to sign up for a voice plan to get data on your private sim card.

I think it is probably better if you don't tell them you have a non-Softbank Touch Pro. It would only confuse them. They will sell you a data plan for the 813, because the 813 (and all Japanese phones) can surf the net.

If you really don't want to carry two phones, then I think the easiest thing would be to refuse the phone from your work and get your own sim for your touch PRO. The voice plan isn't really all that much if you are careful.
[Networking] yukster:
Actually, I am not sure how it would work on a corporate plan, but on a regular plan, all you have to do is to go to one of the Softbank stores (I went to the one attached to the Yodobashi Camera in I think Yokohama) and ask them to convert you over to the new X-series data plans. To make things simple, as for the specific plan (<i>paketto teigaku full </i>

or Packet Flat Rate Full http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/en/price_plan/packet_full/index.html). This will limit your data charges to 5985 yen as long as you use the opensoftbank AP and you don't tether. I was able to switch from a Toshiba 911T to a HTC Cavalier this way without a problem. I think the secret is not to go to an Official Softbank store, but one of the Softbank stores that is connected to either Yodobashi or Bic Camera (not the cellphone service counter, but one of those store within a store places).

One thing to keep in mind is that if you are on a corporate plan, then you probably will not have the authorization to change your rate plan. I would talk to your IT manager and have them forward your email to your "keitai." If they OK it, then they will have to add on a "internet" plan for you.

Docomo has a service where one sim card can hold two seperate cellphone numbers, with two separate billing addresses.

2in1 : http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/english/service/function/2in1/index.html

The services is dependent on the phone, and unfortunately, the HTC smartphones do not support this service.
[Networking] aro:
so far so good

thanks for your quick replies and good information.

after asking around, i found out, that the wife of one of my colleagues if working in one of the softbank stores here in Nagoya.

She confirmed that softbank offers two phone numbers with separate billes on one sim card, but the touch pro phone can not support it.

So I got myself a basic white plan with full flat data plan.

with the opensoftbank AP, I am using it since 2 days.

everything works fine. the online bill already shows 85.000 JPY for data, but as far as I understood some posts here, this will be capped at the end of the month to the 5985 JPY max, right?

I hope so!

btw: the wife of my colleague understodd, that I have no use for a sim looked softabnk phone, as on business trips my company provides me with a local sime card from the region where I go, but she informed me, that some customers had very high data bills due to using non softbank phones. i hope this was only because they did use the wrong AP, not because of any other reasons, that I might experience myself.

you said that all applications that I install on my phone (like facebook, youtube, coreplayer, spb weather, rss,...) are ok for the data flat rate, right?

as long as i do not use my phone to get my laptop online, I should be fine, no?

I will keep you posted after my first bill.
[Networking] fhsieh:
So I picked up the iPhone, and it does indeed use a different USIM card (black color) than the ones used in SoftBank's regular phones (silver color). The connection settings are different as follows:

SoftBank Black USIM:

APN: smile.world

Username: dna1trop

Password: ********** (easily found on Google)

Settings for the standard silver USIM with the same Packet Flat-Rate Full plan are as in the first post. The only difference I can see is that the Packet Flat-Rate Full plan is mandatory for the black USIM, whereas it's optional with the silver USIM depending on which of the other phones you get.

I haven't tested the smile.world APN in my WM phone yet, but at least one person over on gaijinpot has confirmed that the black USIM + smile.world APN works fine in his G1, with the correct Flat-Rate Full discount/cap applied at billing. So evidently the black USIM is not IMEI-locked, and just needs the smile.world APN.

As long as everything works as expected, this is a great deal, since the Packet Flat-Rate Full plan has been lowered to 1029~4410円 for the iPhone. Those whose visas are only good for a year will have to pay for the iPhone up-front (30720円 for the 8GB model), but you still get the 1280円/mo additional discount, which over 24 months pays for the device -- which you can of course unlock and resell relatively easily.

I'll post some results later after I do some testing. :p
[Networking] yukster:
I think Softbank will send you a text message saying that your billable packet usage was going over 50,000 JPY. As long as you didn't get that text message, you should be Ok.
[Networking] geniusgeng:
YEAH,You can use vioce or sms ,but no s!mail or other functions which need data connection.
[Networking] geniusgeng:
I did not try weather the ai access internet works or not
[Networking] tavix80:
Not to be n00b here, but how do you install the .cab in the first place?!:D

I have a Nokia N95 on the Softbank JP but with a hacked firmware v30 ...

Can you help me a little please? Thnks.
[Networking] aiyowaiya:
Hi All..

I am new to this place and thanks for the knowledge on all the setting.

Well, i am not sure anyone following this link thread or not.

Just give an update from my phone.

The office I work for had given me an iPhone 3G when it announced in JP. Well, I don't really like to check the mail everyday since the amount of mail will stop me for resting and get out from the work.

Anyway, since I have to travel all the time, I easily receive the exceeding JPYXXXXX all the time.

To cut the long story short, I have been given a Touch Diamond 2 (TD2) as a gift from my friend and i am using that with my foreign SIM. Recently, I just got back from a 2 months flight and i am thinking to test the TD2 for iPhone's black uSIM.

Of course, it did not work and along by reading the thread, I have download RayB's *.cab for the test. Well, it did not work until fhsieh's hint of the different information.

At the moment, I am using TD2 with JP SB's black uSIM and I can manage to get on line and not yet setup for the mail.

Anyway, just given an update for what happened to the information above.

By the way, RayB's *.cab can not really uninstall on the connection setting when I uninstall the file, if you check the uninstaller in the WM5, it is called "Customization Customize_Tool"

Thanks guys for the info.
[Networking] oizumi:
Hey guys, thanks for all your information. It certainly helped a lot of people from getting those scary and massive bills.

aiyowaiya ,thanks for the update. I am moving to Japan in December and I am intending to use my Diamond 2.

Does anyone knows if there is any extra charge to use skype mobile, nimbuzz or fring?

If I want to use my mobile as notebook modem, would emobile be better than softbank? Does anyone knows anything about emobile?
[Networking] Falk:
In that case I would strongly recommend E-Mobile to you. They have a no bs policy when it comes to data and you can use your subscription for whatever comes to mind as long as you stay within 300 GB... which should be plenty even if you are one of those crazy people who run file sharing apps over their mobile connection ;-) Their disadvantage is that they run on a very exotic frequency (1.7 Ghz, Band 9) which isn't compatible with much else out there and not with your Diamond 2 either.

When it comes to Softbank, I am using an iPhone SIM in my Touch Pro 2 and it works like a charm. I use tethering sparingly as even if some people are doing it without any problems it clearly violates the Softbank TOS and I am sure that they will punish (bill and disconnect) you if you rack up too much data over prolonged periods. Once that happens there is little room to evade elsewhere -

Docomo are just plain Nazis, locking out foreign devices with IMEI locking and forbidding their own customers to use 3G and Wifi at the same time.

AU / KDDI are completely uselsee as they don't use the USIM format and you are stuck with their crappy dumb phones and walled garden internet.

Wilcomm is slowly switching to 3G services, but it will be a while before they become an alternative.

E-Mobile is great as indicated above but pretty much useless for anything but their own data cards and phones.

In other words, you don't want to rape that Softbank SIM too badly or else you may find yourself out in the cold pretty soon. That said, there are no extra charges for VoIP as their official policy forbids that kind of apps to be used over 3G. But a TOS ban is just that and unless Softbank implements some packet filtering mechanism it's nothing you need to be too concerned about.

Let me know if you have any other questions and by the way: Where in Japan are you going to live?
[Networking] oizumi:
Hey Falk. Thank you very much for all the information.

I will live in Gunma-ken.

Well, I guess I will pick softbank since my wife uses it and we can get free calls to each other.

I wish e-mobile suppoted my Diamond 2. Anyway, at least softbank's plan are far better than my currently Three plan.
[Networking] Wraithxt1:
Hey guys. Just a heads up that I was on the packet flat rate plan with my G1 and somehow got stuck with a 1200 dollar phone bill!

I promptly tore the SIM out of my G1, so I dont even know what APN I had set up at this point. I'd venture a guess and say the WRONG one! Can anyone help me out with the right APN info?