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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
Thank you so much for the pic. I assume it's fully inserted? Seems you not only have a decent sized gasket (assume you meant 1mm) but an air gap as well. Nice to know there is a high wattage (and hopefully quality) option that doesn't set off the sensor.

Please keep us posted if you get any errors!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] KamfromCali:
Sure no prob. I used the s22 ruler in cm measurement.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Sokudoningyou:
Same. Had them since my Note 8, have the newest version now in my 10+ (still, only mentioning it since someone else mentioned that model, and my Ultra is on backorder), and I'm on the most recent firmware. Never had a single one of these alerts in the two years I've had them on my current phone, or the last one. It really might be the brands.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
I know the 10+ didn't have the sensor. Not sure if it was added in the 20 series or 21 series though...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Yeah sure does (N975U) and it's fairly sensitive to moisture. One wayward raindrop can stop you from charging (tested)🤣

Be warned the spen/display don't like magnets in close proximity. The C port will easily last many hundreds/thousands of cycles. It not that hard to replace.

Remember you shouldn't be charging with the screen on...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Markeee:
What's wrong with charging with the screen on ?

Sometimes when I'm traveling trying to find a place with navigation on i like charging it and leaving the screen on
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
It skews the charging curve. It may charge slow or not at all. With a 5000 mAh battery you should have at least 8 hours SOT!

It's hard on the battery especially in high ambient temperatures or direct sunlight.

For navigation a dedicated GPS is more effective... and less hassle if the heat burns it up.

I'll add to that by saying I nearly burned up my N10+ like that. It definitely took some battery capacity. It can really tip them over the edge fast. The high temperature shutdown may not kick in fast enough to prevent damage. Direct sunlight is a real killer as much of the heat is dissipated through the display.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] JDubbed:
I was able to go as far as 4 days before the message popped up again. Some times it'll happen same day. Other times it'll last several days. It's hard to tell what exactly is triggering it but it's definitely inconsistant. I'm using the cable below. My s22 case hugs the round adapter that stays inserted in the phone creating some what of a seal on its own. I am thinking the moisture sensor is just very sensitive.

CAFELE Magnetic Type c Cable 2 Pack 6.6ft Support QC 3.0 Fast Charging & Data Transfer Magnetic USB C Cable with Led Light Nylon Braided Magnet Phone Charger Cord for Type C Devices - Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZCQRBTP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_S0Y5RMEYNRMC7P15XY1M
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] edwardob:
magnetic charger works fine for me....j fact i using older one I used with note 20 ultra

no issues with anything....spen. ... screen

they work great. maybe you just got a dud..... I bought a set of 3. .... for car.... office and home. one of them was a bit moody.... so that maybe the case.

the one m mentioned in previous post looks the same was mine
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] JDubbed:
I don't believe it is a dud cable or connector. I've tried 5 different adapters and 4 different cables so far. I've purchased 3 of the 3 packs over the years so I have many adapters and cables I've been testing with.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] edwardob:
sorry to hear that.... mine works fine anyway
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
Agreed. Mine was in my s10+ since purchase with no issues. Didn't last 3hrs in the S22 Ultra and I had new replacement tips and cables the errored just as fast.

The sensor is hyper sensitive and something in only certain products is setting it off falsely...

I still think the gasket helps prevent the issue from occurring.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] RobinD42:
It has now been a full week since my switch to NetDot Gen10. Still moisture alert free. :cool: 👍
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
6 days with no issues for me using NetDot Gen10 as well!

I have these on the way for testing next...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09SPC6RVM/

(USB4/Thunderbolt4/PD 100w compatible magnetic adapters)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] RobinD42:
I've also been looking at and considering similar items. It looks like there is finally some standardization in the plug's interface on the magnetic side. At least the photos of the plugs from several different vendors are looking to be identical. If so then that will give a lot more flexibility in making product choices.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] pcriz:
Its been on every Samsung since they have been advertising IP ratings.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
I doubt these tips will work with NetDot Gen10 cables if that's what you mean. I would think a 24pin version of the same design wouldn't fit with a 5pin cable. while in the USB C connector itself they are designed to be swappable there is no telling what the pitch or order of the wires is on the magnetic side. Even if it physically lined up, mixing brands could mean putting 5v down a data line or who knows what other random combination. doing so with a QC or PD version would be quite dangerous I would think...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] RobinD42:
No, that's not what I meant. I just happened to notice that several of the newer magnetic connector products with 24-pin, 100W or 60W PD, etc. capabilities appear to have identical plug to cable or adapter interfaces. I have no idea at this point if they really are compatible, but it sure would be nice if they were. That's one of the big gripes I've had with previous generations of these products, that the interfaces were all different, even successive generations of the same brand are incompatible with each other..
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
I've been using these for the last 3 days without issue: USB C Magnetic Cable

I have these on order: Magnetic USB C Adapter 24Pin Type C PD 100W Fast Charging Connector The specs and configuration options are much better.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] <Bob>:
I own an S22 Ultra 1TB. I have had TWO occurrences of the Moisture/Debris alarm. I have only owned the phone for TWO weeks.

The phone is sealed inside a BATTERY CASE. It was placed into the case on day one, as soon as I unboxed and activated the phone. Only the internal USB plug of the case touches the S22u. No debris or water can reach the USB connector on the phone.

The battery case has a separate external connector that is used to charge the case (and the phone). In the two incidences on which alarms occurred, NO EXTERNAL cables were plugged into the case. No obvious environmental conditions would contribute to the situation (e.g. I was not sitting in a steam room). In fact, I was sitting in my own dining room eating dinner the most recent time that the Moisture-Drop symbol appeared on the phone.

It would be nice if the Samsung Engineering Department would post and tell us what parameters they are measuring as input to the decision making process of triggering the Moisture/Debris Alarm. (e.g. current leakage/resistance between conductors? Between conductors and the metal shroud of the connector?) Without this knowledge, we are flying blind, grasping at straws.

We run the risk of being manipulated by social media influencers and marketing sock-puppet accounts that are trying to boost sales by asserting that their cable or product does not trigger the Moisture/Debris alarm. Such claims are speculative, without definitive knowledge of what technical parameter triggers the alarm. We could really use some guidance from Samsung Engineering regarding what they monitor as the Alarm trigger.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
I got the second item you posted from Amazon about a week ago and moved exclusively to that and have had zero issues with wireless charging, wired android auto, wired slow charging and wired 45w super fast+ charging.

So far the trend for me has been that anything with a ~1mm or thicker plastic or rubber gasket between the magnetic head and the phone has worked flawlessly...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] RobinD42:
Two times in two weeks is not so bad. There were times that I got it 2 times in a day, but more often it was about once every 2-3 days.

I do agree however that it would be nice to have more specifics about what is the intended triggers for the alert and some determination about why some inserts trigger it (seemingly) incorrectly. Otherwise all we can do is say I've been using X for Y weeks with no triggers

yet

. 😉 As Y grows the more confident we can be, but it would be nice to be sure.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Just an update and a question: I also bought a NetDot Gen10 set of three cables on Amazon. Been using them full time for a few weeks now and they have been perfect. In addition to no moisture problem on my S22 Ultra, I love the way you keep a plug in the device all the time, preventing dirt, lint, etc. from building up and becoming a problem. Very easy to connect to the cable also. I even keep one in my Tab S6 and my Kindle Oasis.

Now my question is about the iPhone 7 I got for almost nothing that I use only as a music and podcast player. I cannot find anything for the iPhone similar to the NetDot magnetic cables. Does such a cable exist? Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
iPhone 7 has a lightning port, does it not? There are tons of cheap magnetic cables with lightning tips. My kids use them for their iPads without issues, in my case this is an iPad Mini 4 and an iPad 6th Gen. Both are a few years old so I dunno how reliable they would be on brand new devices with whatever crazy new protections against 3rd party products Apple may have added. Pretty sure your iPhone 7 is older than one if not both of the iPads in my house.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Thanks! I was not remembering that is what it is called. Once I entered "lightning" into my search string, I found some.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] RobinD42:
NetDot used to include lightning connectors, but it's been a long time. They've only included USB-C and Micro-USB plugs the past couple years.

It looks like Volta (https://voltacharger.com/) is still including all 3 plug types with their cable kits.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Thanks. Yeah I am having a hard time finding anything that will work with ios14 or above. Probably why Net Dot stopped including the lightning tips.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] RespecterOfDevs:
The problem in going BACKWARDS to Gen 10 is that you LOSE the swiveling capability of the Gen 12!

Are there no Gen 12 inserts that will work??? Just got the S22 Ultra, and it DOESN'T CHARGE AT ALL with any of my previous cables or inserts!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
I never used Gen12 personally... I hate the round inserts and the swivel-type in general, regardless of the brand that offers it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
I agree. I have the Gen 10 and love them and they work. I just wish that the lightning ends were still available. But from what I have been able to learn, that is an Apple decision to not allow the magnetic chargers to work, not the cable manufactures. Apple has for some reason made it so the lightning ends do not seem to work with the most recent iOS versions.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dj24:
Anyone with the recent April update still having issues with the non gen 10 cables?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] esmith13:
While I have not tested this I read online that in the USA at least, the April update was mainly security patch related and the big update that's supposed to address a bunch of customer concerns like GOS service throttling apps and UI related things (and maybe our charging issues?) is coming SOON™...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] abcomputin:
I have two NetDot Gen 10 lightning connectors on order directly from NetDot. If they do show up and work properly, I'll post that. NetDot said that it was Amazon that made them stop including the lightning connectors. Hope they show up soon. Also, The Shipping fee was € 5.The unit price of one connector was €1.5. I think it came out to $9 and change after the euro conversion.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Please post the link to how you bought these. I have searched all over and maybe my search terms are faulty, but I could not find them.

The NetDot website store only links to Amazon. Their website and other places only show their products for sale on Amazon. My search on Amazon only turns up Gen10 for USB-C and micro, nothing for lightning or iPhone. In questions posted on some of the Amazon Gen10 cables, people asked about lightning and iPhone and NetDot seller responded that those tips are no longer included because the latest few versions of iOS have prevented magnetic tips from working. I could find nobody saying anything other than not available and won't work. Can't even find the lightning cables or tips on Ebay. So if you were successful finding and ordering the lightning Gen10 tips, please help by posting links. Thanks!

edit: I see now that because I am in the US, maybe that is the issue. I just found a phone number for NetDot but it is a China number.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Just following up again to ask if you can post the link to how you bought these so others can also purchase them.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] abcomputin:
Sorry for the delay. Wanted to make sure the lightning connectors showed up, worked properly, and wanted to make sure it was ok with NetDot for me to post how I got them ordered. This got started when I asked the vendor a questiion thru Amazon about the lightning connectors. The email to make contact with them is "netdot01@163.com". Following is the original info they provided to me:

"Lightning connectors can not be sold on amazon any more.Sorry for the inconvenience.

But we can ship it to you directly.

The Shipping fee is € 5.The unit price of one connector is €1.5.

It usually arrives in 2-3 weeks.

Here is the paypal: 13822131120@163.com

We will arrange the shipping once receive the payment."

I ordered two of the Gen10 lightning connectors for 8 euros total. Right now 8 euros equals +/- $8.45

Once again, sorry for this delay.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] abcomputin:
Clicked the wrong spot, disregard.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] volcolm:
Anyone tested the original magnetic cable these knockoffs are from (the "Volta")?

Before everyone's going to cry "bUT yoU can BuY thEm on AlieXpRess" but these didn't start popping up until that cable made it to market. So that's not the point of my inquiry.

Just curious is all.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hand-filer:
Not crying about anything but after looking at all of the variations out there I ordered these USB4.0 Thunderbolt3 Magnetic Adapter USB C To Type C from Aliexpress. They're made by the same factory that make the grossly overpriced ones that are sold by Amazon, Volta or from whomever. Ordered 4 pair and after evaluating ordered 4 more. They support super fast charging and don't trigger any moisture fault.

One or two people have an issue and it's all about the connector. Maybe it's about the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Sorry, my bad. I did just miss your post where you posted the link. Thanks!!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blazewit:
The magnetic chargers do have higher leakage than a normal wire n this being the 1st Samsung line to support 45 watt charging it may have a lower tolerance for voltage anomalies caused by the slight shifting of the plug in normal use (hence why ppl can sometimes go days without issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Thanks again. I ordered 4 of them and they are slowly making their way from China. After 12 days they finally made it to Los Angeles airport customs. But they have been sitting there now for another 3 days. So, yes for anyone else who orders them... The service is great and the price is right. But they really will take 3 weeks, at least, to arrive. I know, a first world problem and only for those of us spoiled by Amazon Prime delivery! LOL!
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] pappschlumpf:
These work on all devices i own, Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, Galaxy S22 Ultra, Xiaomi Mi9T, OnePlus 8 Pro and my Huawei Notebook. All charge with their maximum charging speed. Data transfer is fine.

My older WSKEN Kits don't work with the S22 Ultra. Didn't work with the Note 20 too btw.

USB Type C Magnetic Adapter 90 Degree,24Pin for Apple Macbook Pro iPad and USB-C Laptop,100W Fast Charging,10Gbps Data, 2-Pack https://smile.amazon.de/dp/B09MH61B4H/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_MSE66VTJX58CWNQ465A9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] abcomputin:
Just wondering if they showed up yet. If so, are they working ok for you?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Still waiting but they are getting closer. The tracking website they use works fine; it just takes a while from China. For anyone else that may order them, they were shipped May 4th and it looks like they should arrive in the next day or two. So, about a month. I don't mind the wait, just glad they were available and hopefully will work. I'll post back once I get them and try them out.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Ha! You asked about them this morning and three hours later they showed up in my mailbox. Thanks!! I set one up for my iPhone 7 plus and it works fine. Just ordered another 3 pack of cables so I will have the system everywhere I charge, including the RV.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Will_T:
Been using for a week+ now and they work great so far.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] hypercept:
So what I believe about the Moisture Warning is that:

#1 It's definitely not a moisture sensor in the scientific sense.

#2 It only applies to moisture in the chargeport

#3 What it actually senses for is if there is a faulty contact between two prongs that should not be in contact. (In other words a "short-circuit", which is why the Moisture Warning shuts off the jack completely.) This also happens when there is actually water in the port, it would short the circuit. I believe this is why they've implemented it in this way.

I have seen plenty of reports of the Moisture warning being triggered with REGULAR chargers. Chances are these chargers are frayed or poorly made. The same can be said for magnetic chargers. If they are cheaply made, you get a higher chance of this malfunction.

The best solution is to buy in small quantities to be able to test first, and throw away any bits and wires that do trigger the Moisture Warning. (after testing with other devices to double check) And of course,, try to spare a little more money for better-made parts.

The technical fixes that people post on here will definitely work but will never be permanent unless you change the actual bits you're using.

Granted there is a small chance of an anomalous fault in the phone's manufacturing itself, so if you do notice that it's happening with multiple methods of charging, try taking your phone to get checked out at the appropriate provider.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] D3HK4Y:
Thanks abcomputin, I've just placed an order with them. I will post again once I'm in receipt of same. These cables work fine, for me, on all my Android devices. I just want the same for my iPhone. 👍🏻
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DaveWest:
Purchased S-23+ and within a few weeks was getting the error message. I went to local Samsung Repair Center and they said because the S-23 was new and they would not have parts, they suggested I send into Samsung for repair. I did. It came back testing out 100% fine. It worked for two weeks. The error message re-emerged (no water or dirt exposure) and I could not get anything to work. I bought a new S23 for my spouse and after reading this forum thread decided to take the USB-c wire from her box and try it on my S-23. Wow, it worked; no problem no error message! I have 25 different all high quality USB-C wires, non will work; but the Samsung out of the box wire does work. I cannot communicate the level of frustration this problem caused me to have and I am curious to see if using the OEM wire will be the long-term fix. You can tell from this comment I am not technically sophisticated when it comes to the device, I just cannot believe Samsung has allowed a problem like this to persist. Their service agents, chat agents etc. never suggested the wire solution.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rogertb:
Hi I'm probably being totally stupid but my ring tone stops after only about 5 rings, can I make it keep ringing for longer ?

Many thanks Roger
[Introductions] wasanne:
Hi. Wayne here. I am old and not technically savvy and I am forever frustrated with not being able to sort my own problems with phones and computers out.
[Introductions] BSJOHNSON:
I am BSJohnson from India.

Joined for lurking to keep myself updated.

I am interested in learning rooting and modding phones for gaining skills in IoT.
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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Alibab:
Could there be any downside to root my phone now (with Magisk) as if I were doing it later?

Is it possible that future versions of Magisk (or any other rooting method) will retain more original factory features (Google Pay, Samsung Pay, Widevien DRM etc...?

Or is this very unlikely?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] s3axel:
At least everything related to Knox (e.g. Samsung Pay, Secure Folder....) will not work any more once unlocked and rooted - even if relocking and going back to full stock.

GPay should work now..... but this is judging from my experience with other current phones, still waiting for Samsung to deliver my S22U ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] nabil427:
What about warranty ? does unlocking bootloader or rooting or flashing custom rom break he warranty ?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] s3axel:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dj24:
Does relocking your bootloader revert to allowing you to use bank apps once again?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Alibab:
I definitely want to root my phone to gain maximum control over it.

The conrol over my phone is more important to me than the warranty.

As far as I know sadly until now Knox was never bypassed.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Alibab:
I wish someone could find a solution to bypass Knox.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Alibab:
I have read that banking apps work on rooted devices. You do not need to relock your bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] s3axel:
They do, at least on my recently rooted phones and for the apps I use.... Safetynet passes, Gpay ist working fine....

But this is the usual cat&mouse game ;), actually for the S22U my intention is to try going unrooted - we'll see how long this holds ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Indeed we have no idea about "future of magisk" so don't rely on future verion of magisk

If you want to root, just look into current scenario and decide you want to root or not. As of now (On OneUI 4.0 on other devices) Samsung Pay & Samung Pass (and Knox thingy) doesn't work. Though it doen't mean everything other works, still you needs to patch multiple things like Samsung Health, Secure folder, Private sharing and may be more. Also many apps may not work but you needs to hide them with magisk (Still no guarantee it will work)

So my pesonal advice is to before jumping to rooting, read as much possible rooting and magisk thread. Rooting is one way, once you trip knox, it's for forever and some stuff never work again even after relocking bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
There have been ongoing issues and failures with the variable rate displays going back to the N20U, it could to be an expensive gamble.

There's zero track record for this model but expect more of the same...

Relatively little display failures with the N10+ fixed rate display even after over 2 years.

The resale value will be diminished and forget a trade-in. Rooting will destroy some of its core functionality, forever. Too many "I bricked my phone" threads here already... at least take a few months to start to get to know your stock new phone. Better have deep pockets if you decide to root this Samsung...