yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] patp:
The issue is how much free system ram there is. Manilla 2D takes up a lot more than vanilla ROMs, leaving generally around 18-19MB to run applicaitons in. For a lot of people this is not enough. For example, fire up Opera Mobile and you might lose up to 10MB of that. Hermes needs a bit for system operations, and if you receive a text and open it, that will eat a few MB. Pretty soon you can find your device is unstable or simply that programs shut themselves down. A lot of folks can live with it, I've not tries a Manilla ROM, and I wondered if this one had managed to trim it down a bit.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bjevers:
I had to change the following key otherwise my device was powering off on its own while connected to ActiveSync, thus interupting the connection.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power]

"DisableGwesPowerOff"=dword:1
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] skull6412:
From M2D Pictures and Video tab, when I click on Album, Camera Shots launches, then hangs there can't see the photos. Anyone has this problem?

If anyone has problem flashing, try the RUU_Wrapper from other rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kings888:
Good rom , Thanks!

I tested your great rom , but i have a problem that in the "comm manager" , it hang when my phone connecting bluetooth headset(stereo itechS38) , i don't know why ? This problem appear in your testing? Thanks.:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sebtec:
Thanks very much :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bjevers:
No problem here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] goldenguy111:
I can't seem to acquire any service using this ROM. I tried flashing 4 different radios, none of them work. Hard reset after install, and no other programs loaded.

Carrier: ATT

Currently using 2.10 Olipro.

Anyone have suggestions?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
change the band setting (go to phone/menu/option/band) to auto for both network type & GSM/UMTS Band.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] M.MALKI:
I downloded the rom tow times from rapidshare and the file is not complete !!!

can some one upload it to 4shared or megaupload please ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dB Zac:
I am on ATT but I did not have this problem. I did notice when I swapped to my 2nd battery and powered back on it was in flight mode. Did you check to make sure you are not in flight mode?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ngagephone:
wow

hi can i request this rom with normal storage no mannila and a video dialer and this would be so perfect super fast even with mannila please make a non mannila with normal storage and a video dialler plz plz plz,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] goldenguy111:
ok well i figured it out. thanks dB Zac and kipe. The problem was the 3G connection setting under comm manager...it needs to be switched on in addition to Phone.

On my tilt running HyperDragon, i only needed Phone on, and so i didn't see 3G being off as a problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mateuszrac:
heLLo ALL

MMS and VideoCall on this ROM ??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ngagephone:
mms and video plz and no mannila

MMS and video dialler and no mannila and normal storage plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] M.MALKI:
Little help please !!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Wam7:
This IS a Manilla ROM so if you don't want that then you have to look elsewhere! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
calendar problem?

after an activesync synchonization it won't let me edit my appointments. can anyone else test it, just create an appointment, preferably using outlook on the pc first - to simulate the same situation - then sync. go into calendar, find the appointment and try to edit some info in it... on mine shows "no program memory available...." and the rest of the message is a little howto to stop programs running in the background.

the loveliest part of it is that there is nothing running in the background other than uncle manilla.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dB Zac:
my active sync updated the calendar
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bjevers:
You are correct, I get the same problem. I didn't notice before because I use ThumbCal instead of the regular calendar.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
thank you ever so much for trying, mate...

yeah, nothing is perfect... said mr charlie brown.

that's the most stupid question i've ever thought about making: does anyone have a cab i could use to reinstall calendar. not even sure this is possible. in the not too unlike possibility I needed to edit an appointment on the go, i couldn't.

will give thumbcal a go, hope it isn't another iphone-like app.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
mirror

for those struggling to download the rom from radidshare there's this other link which was also published on the original thread at the rom's original forum.

another thanks to chef.

LINK: http://www.sendspace.com/file/qn8gh5
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dB Zac:
I can't express how happy I am with this rom! I did notice when I wake up the phone (via the power button) right after I put it to sleep, the wake up fails... not I big deal.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xit:
Awesome - only 2 bugs found

This is a significant upgrade in GUI and feels like a new phone. Who needs a Diamond Pro with this ROM on an old JasJam? :) :p

Only 2 bugs, as already reported:

1. Cannot edit an appointment sync'd from Outlook. Same 'no memory' error as already reported. This is a bit of a nuisance and stops me roling this ROM out on other phones. Can it be reg fixed?:confused:

2. If I put it to sleep, it wakes fine. If I let it go into standby sleep, when I press power button to wake, it flashes on, then off again. Pressing the power button again gets it to stay on.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hadian:
Thanks for the link

Sendspace added to the 1st post ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luvaholic:
i've try using this rom.. and first expression is really happy about the performance of this ROM. great job! but i'm having lil problem with the media player.. it can't play the file in the standby mode? when i play the songs it runs well, but when i press the power button it simply just turn off the media.. can anyone help me ? and also the LAUNCH BROWSER and YOUTUBE application didn't work? is it only me or anyone else have the same problem too?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sapphire_pro:
Can ANYONE now say something about the free Storage after Flash?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
all these problems have been covered before. the music playing thing on standby mode can be fixed with a registry edit, please check this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2790140&postcount=73.

about the other applications missing, they might've been left out to save some storage space - can't confirm that cause original forum is in vietnamese but if you want to install the other missing applications plus the EzInput keypad that should be in this rom here are the links:

Opera: http://www.mediafire.com/?tztmhghjko2

YouTube: http://www.mediafire.com/?xx4onyzoh4o

EzInput (ENG/ESP/FRA/ITA/GER): http://www.mediafire.com/?44dyinqe4yk

hope it helps
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
I noticed that too but didn't think it had something to do with the ROM but with my Hermes already crying for his retirement. good to know...

also dont like the idea i cant change manilla2d skin. not a big fan of blue :-(

mate, dont want to sound rude, but couldn't you just back up all the data on your hermes using an app like spb backup or similar, flash this rom, see if it's ok and if it's not just put your old rom back and restore everything from backup? maybe would've been faster than waiting for a blessed soul.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] M.MALKI:
I NEED 4SHARED LINK FOR THIS ROM .... PLEASE :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
are you sure you dont manage to download from sendspace using this link? http://www.sendspace.com/file/qn8gh5
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] skull6412:
reports:

1. i do myself have the waking up phone problem, when i press power on from sleep mode, it turns on and off immediately sometimes, then i turn it on again, it stays on.

2. have problem with Camera Album, can't launch it sometimes, or it launches but freezes the phone.

Thanks for the good ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] M.MALKI:
I have a dialup connection and I tried three times that sendspace link and it's stop at 65% :confused:

Hope you can help me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] farres:
4shared Mirror

hello bro, if your connection is a dial up then you have 2 solutions: either to download it from an Internet Café (they usually have a better connection rate) or if you are using FireFox or IE7 or higher then click the download link and then wait for an hour or more and then click the save button and you will find that most of the download process has completed.

I've mirrored the file on 4shared.com as you requested anyway.

MIRROR: DOWNLOAD FROM 4SHARED

Extract password: PhamQuang
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] M.MALKI:
Thanks alot brother :)

وبالأخير مابيحك جلدك إلا ظفرك وماحدا ساعدني غير إبن بلدي .... شكراً ياحبيب
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] farres:
you're welcomed and good luck ;) (PS tell my greetings to my beautiful Syria)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hadian:
me too transfer my Love to Syria :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] M.MALKI:
Will do brothers :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
have you tried using that registry hack to keep phone playing music on standby mode? appears that it also works to fix this waking problem, at least my phone stopped behaving funny. interesting how someone came up with this help but never really told what it does exactly, but something to do with power.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] skull6412:
Hi SlakerBoi,

No, I haven't tried it yet. I'll give it a shot and report back. Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luvaholic:
no video call? any solution?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bharatiya:
HI all,

Ok so I am not so noob when it comes to Run RUUpdater and flash roms on HTC Tytn, (except I still don't know how to downgrade). Having said that, I can't seem to get this one working for me, that is it will not flas my device, I flashed every other ROM but can't seem to get this one, it keeps giving me a connection error. I have all thelates SPL etc..

Please advise, and my appologies, if this was mentioned earlier.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
install a 3G dialer and you'll have videocall. there are thousands springing from the ground in this forum. try and look at the senior members' 4shared folders.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
as mentioned before you need to install hardspl. once this is installed - read AFTER HardSPL is installed - the only way to flash this specific rom is putting your phone on a mode i can't recall the name now but you can get that by pressing the two buttons on the side: OK and STAND-BY; and then tuck your stylus in the hole in the bottom (that didn't sound good) and keep it there for a couple of seconds or until you see a coloured screen. then, at this point, you can plug your USB cable and then start the flashing process as usual.

here goes hardspl7...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] icreative:
Hm...how much free ram memory??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] patp:
Someone seems to have said 21MB which is a lot for a Manilla. I'm prob going to give this one a shot.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hadian:
about 20:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bharatiya:
Hi TThanks for your help, I was wondering if putting it into BootLoader will do i tor not, but u did confirm my doubt and I am loving this rom. I did not hav eto do HardSPL or maybe I already have done so.

Regardless... thanks for ROm, I love it.

Now few things, which doesn;t seem to work for me is...

1) You Tube

2) Hardware Keyboard. I am gonna read around and see if u guys already tlked about it.

all in all I love this M2D interface....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] poochi:
the machine hung up when I intstalled the chinese support, maybe somewhere conflict.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kotabunga:
3g dialer

could you post a cab or a thread, mine is a dial up and takes a lot of time to search....

Thanks:D:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fungy1129:
my machine has 19m free when just finish flashed, but after i install my programs on it , it left to 12mb, if i using manila music player ( HTC audio manger), it decrease to 8 m , but this rom is great, i can install chinese support on it, it can show correct chinese character.

speed is the best i've try , no delay !!!!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] h2opoloplyr_11:
does this manila2d buggy with sms on landscape mode on?

i used several other m2d roms and everytime i would write a text in landscape mode it would randomly switch to portrait mode while the slide out keyboard is still out and has not been moved. is this normal on all m2d roms or this one doesnt suffer the same bug?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
you're very spoiled mr kotabunga, i am pretty sure you would have found one with a couple of clicks. i will post a cab here but willing it won't work so you feel forced to go and find one yourself!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2845677#57

@EVERYONE:

Guys, please let's READ, READ and READ. There is a big chance all the information you need has already been covered, so let's just use the search. Some of the queries are just so silly that i wonder why sometimes they're just ignored. Let's put our eyes to work and read, it's good for our brains.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] saawan:
is possible to disable the manilla 2D and still use this ROM?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hadian:
No , you need to find a ROM without Manilla
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
well... you can always disable it in the today settings. i did that a few times, does make a difference in terms of speed but im not sure if it does make any difference when it comes to storage, ram or other aspects of the system itself.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] poochi:
nice to meet a chinese here.

this rom seems not stable after installed the chinese support.

would you tell me which support package used? I installed the samau yahei 14M package.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pmedinua:
Hard Reset

Today, after 7 days using this rom, i had a Hard reset and now i have no gsm network. I set my network on Phone ---> Band but it didnt work.

Before i flashed this rom i followed Dr's orders and flashed At&t (os only) Rom.

I think ill go back to a no manilla rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hadian:
Many days and the ROM is fantastic :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] skull6412:
beautiful rom. but I did have 2 hard resets since flashed a week ago.

first h/r started with phone froze, soft reset it came up with some strange folders with funky names in Settings and everywhere else, i wish i could had some screenshots the developers can look at, every strange.

second h/r was phone hung when installing some 3rd party software at the end, would not finish installation. soft reset, would not start m2d again. had to h/r.

don't know if anyone had any problem similar. patiently waiting for the next release. thank you again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] poochi:
Me too.

after install resco explorer 2k8, the phone hung up, and many icons in program folder changes.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fungy1129:
hi, nice to meet you, i just go to http://www.studiokuma.com/wm/?section=support , and download the chinese support package , i think "ime-mingliu.cab (6191KB)" is the most stable one ! i've tired the other too, but seems not so stable and even hang after installed.

good luck !
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] poochi:
thanks a lot!

But I need the simplified chinese support. This ROM seems not stable itself especially when installed applications. I'll wait until the auther release a bug fixed version.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Zero_van_Cool:
great ROM. Best manila2d rom i ever had flashed.

*respect*

If it is possible to build an ultra-lite manila2d rom (only required programs) with CRC's Device Update?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] saints5354:
Network selection doesn't work for me, i cant select network manually, anyone encounter this problem or nobody test it yet ?

Beside this, everything work fine for me, well done....thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dB Zac:
did you use the connection tool in the settings/connection section?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] RxenDrav:
install skin

everytime im installing skin ie mbarvian skin, the Manila2d cannot be launch, why?.. its just freez 'tap here to luanch TouchFlow2d'... after i tap it, it cannot load'....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wreckerdude:
I Like This Version!

This version rocks!!! I've tried several of the other versions and this one seems to be the best!

So far everything is working great! No bugs detected for me so far. Will know more tomorrow. Haven't really tested it much yet.

Just upgraded my radio version to 1.56.70.11. Going to test that tomorrow too, but so far I like the data connectivity. Seems to be a lot faster. We'll see how the reception & battery issues are tomorrow.

Good job on making this version of the TouchFlo lighter.

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wreckerdude:
Weather Issue...

Just noticed the weather is not updating. Not a big issue, but would be nice if it worked.

:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] saints5354:
Thanks, i mean the gsm network, i cant manually select it, can others feedback abt this ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
i couldnt install any skin on it... manilla2d just wont take it.

i noticed that my battery is lasting a day and this is on 2G network which is kinda worrying. i haven't been using my hermes a lot lately due to fact i mainly use an old nokia for calls and texts. i have it with wifi and bluetooth switched off too. i am starting to think there's something to do with this specific rom cause when i using CRC's, Shaps, etc battery used to last 2 days - if not using 3G.

is there any application that would show exactly how much battery the phone is consuming in one hour?

by the way: how do you upgrade a radio? any how-to, somewhere?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] skull6412:
bros, need your help.

how do I remove the cooked in volume control and get the original one back? I like the original volume controller much better. Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wreckerdude:
Nice!!! Stable too!!

Ok, I've ran this rom all day today and so far not 1 hard reset or hang up. Worked flawlessly all day! I didn't do any web surfing, just phone calls and messaging. No problems.

I was also testing the new radio with it, which seemed to work pretty well too. My phone has been on since 8am this morning and it's now 6:30pm SW FL time and my battery is only down 30%. Like I said above, I didn't do any heavy web surfing, youtubing, or anything that works the battery really hard or the software other then phone calls and messaging,

I REALLY LIKE this rom and will stick with it for a while. I've tested several of the other versions and none of them worked as well as this one. All the others had MAJOR flaws. Hats off to ALL the chief's for their excellent work, it's not easy making stable roms.

I would say stick to the one that works best for your needs, but this one gets about as close as it can with the low ram on the 8525's.

Now, can someone get the weather to update!!

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] iSlaker:
applications vs draining battery

something really odd happened today. my battery was around 50% which came down to less than 20% after a 14 minutes phone call, i was in town, with good reception.

please mates, take a look at my applications list and see if any of these apps have any known issues of draining battery. the worst case scenario would be my battery already good to be binned. could you also see if any of the running applications should not be there.

all help is more than appreciated.

installed applications:

Resco Explorer 2008

Microsoft .NET CF 3.5

snctln M2DC

JS Advanced Configuration Tool 3.2

JUVS HTC enlarge start menu (to get rid of the start menu)

BJK HTC EzInput FullKbd 1.5 RC1

BJK HTC ExInput L-Pack PT 1.5 RC1

MBarvian OpalPhoneCanvas

Opera 9

XDA-SPC-Noonski HTC YouTube

Microsoft Windows Live

DivX Inc DivXPlayer

Microsoft Research AURA

SimpleAct QuickMark

edba & FInixNOver CM Settings

MobiReader

hejhej.org moBlue

Microsoft VB Runtimes for PPC

GravityMobile MusicID

Wei Enterprises nueMMS

SPW Psycho Test (i should uninstall this ssss later)

ThumbApps ThumbCal

ochakov.com VAlert

WeFi

QHGraphite Kinoma FreePlay

HTC Streaming Media

RARLAB Pocket RAR

Skype for PocketPC

HTC Network Plugin

Customization Tools

Running all the time:

HTC_Hprf.exe

Manilla2D.exe

tmail.exe

SIPGT_app.exe

cprog.exe

VAlert.exe

SIPGT_app.exe (o-oh... why i have two instances of it?)

psShutXP.exe

sddaemon.exe

SAPSettings.exe

connmgr.exe

services.exe

shell32.exe

gwes.exe

device.exe

filesys.exe

NK.exe

rapiclnt

udp2tcp.exe

maapp.exe

repllog.exe
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] IndentX:
Hi, First of all, I would like to thank you for making a Manilla2d rom that is working superb with the Tytn.. Also i have the weather tab working for me also.. I just have a few questions, since youtube and the browser werent installed, i installed youtube from the cab file posted and downloaded skyfire as my browser.. I just wanted to know if there is a way that i can change the settings in the Manilla2d Internet tab, so when i click on Launch browser it launches Skyfire, and when i click on youtube it launches the youtube software.. Also the 2nd thing is that, is there a way i can't have my sim contacts shown in the contact list, just my phone contacts..? If you could answer those, i would be really gratefull.. Thanks again for the rom
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bjevers:
For Youtube, edit the following registry key to point to your Youtube program: HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila2D\InternetWidget\Customized\0\CustomizedURL

The value on mine is \Program Files\youtubeplay\youtubeplay.exe

I'm using this player: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=385227

To get Skyfire to launch, just edit or add another customized URL. To get it to load when clicking the globe icon, you would need to use a program called VJBrisk or the one in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2835131&highlight=vjbrisk#post2835131

For SIM contacts edit this registry key: [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Phone]

"ShowSIM"=dword:00000001 ->0 to disable, 1 to enable.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] saints5354:
Had anyone try to select GSM network MANUALLY and able to do so ? i can't manually select GSM network ...