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[Touch HD General] fdevogel:
tomtom

I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.

I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.

Thanks
[Touch HD General] Nara-e-Mastana:
Johnkorver,

It is indeed a good news that there is no lag in GPS :)

HTC Touch Diamond + HTC X7500 + Iphone 16 GB White + HTC Touch HD

Your collection is awesome :)
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
It was to good to be true...

I found a bug; the rollout menu's (don't know how to call it) do not work on non standard programs.

I had this bug also on my Samsung i780 with a 320x320 pixel screen.

You can select the different items using the keyboard though.

Look at the screenshot to see what I mean; I selected the main window menu.
[Touch HD General] stesa:
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
There is a special version, taken from the Diamond.

Use google and you willl find it ;-))
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Finding out right now.

tried to put the Diamond battery in the HD.....
[Touch HD General] Domitri:
well i just benchmarked a video on core player

same settings that those on HD and i got this:

average speed: 70.71%

video frames: 1462

amount of data: 9212k

bench data rate: 912kbit

bench frame rate: 17.68

so diamond really SUCKS on playing video: the file is divx 640 x 480 i know thats a big file but hey thats the resolution of the pda so that should help

seems HD behaves much better on playing video but perhaps not perfect yet :(

i used to watch movies on htc x7500 and it played more or less well, the biggest prob was audio sync
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
no,

is very important.

It should be measured on the same screen definition

In resolving below the definition of both displays - no matter where authorization is superior to a video display, with screen definition than different - playing a big role

on the asus p750 in the definition of 320x240 - 115% when the screen definition is 640x480 - 70%

to assess the performance of platforms Qualcomm and Marvel need to run to test video resolution of 320x240, a reference to which I wrote above, a Marvel 520 MHz - 280%
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
No, there is no lag.
[Touch HD General] Johnny72:
I readed the User Manual but I didn't find no news on geotagging photos: it's not possible???
[Touch HD General] gervasius:
did you use quick GPS or not?

if not, then everything is ok...

thx
[Touch HD General] cracou111:
tv out

So does it have tv out or not?
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
no, only exUSB, which can connect a video cable
[Touch HD General] cadenza:
Can you connect a videocable? I thought you can't if the usb-port doesn't support tv-out.. Or what can you do with the video cable? Greez, cad^^
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
Its not USB, its extUSB. Lol
[Touch HD General] XorXaX:
I think what they mean is, does the phone support TV-out through the video cable that you can connect to the ext-USB?

I've read somewhere that it doesn't support TV-out. So which is it? Has someone tried?

Thanks!
[Touch HD General] dickr43:
The Touch HD is defenatly the best. The screensize makes everything so much more readable! I also think that the GPS has a quicker fix in the HD.
[Touch HD General] dickr43:
I'm running this version: 8.0.0.49545

It was on my Omnia when I ought it, that's why I called it the "Omnia" version.
[Touch HD General] Deadstar:
Please answer to this..

Definitly what can we do with the cable in the extUSB???

Tnx:)
[Touch HD General] BetterRed:
sdhc class

Not necessarily. Data could be transferred from PC to card - in which case a class6 will make a difference.

You're right about the slow transfer though - someone said 2GB in 5min which is 111KB/s. Hopefully the transfers to the chip-memory will be somewhat faster.
[Touch HD General] mkMoSs:
This issue has been officially addressed by HTC customer support, NO IT HAS NO TV-OUT SUPPORT one way or another.
[Touch HD General] 12nala34:
as you said - formally it doesn't have TV-out support, but unofficially? How often on this forum users have been finding something that officially is impossible? Only way is to check it with applicable cable and software.
[Touch HD General] tigernight:
I tried to find any solution to have the TV-out functionality possible with HD , so after searching the web I found a device that theoritically can act as an external TV-out and we need a try ..

check my post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=441744
[Touch HD General] Lucas0511:
@tigernight, why so complicated? Any device that can be connected to a WLAN - like the HD - can bring all its content - movies, photos, music - to a TV via a media receiver (I use the Pinnacle ShowCenter 250HD http://bit.ly/1G508T ). Ok, of course a dedicated TV out is cheaper, but before you start looking at hardware that is not even on the retail market yet, choose working solutions one can buy now...
[Touch HD General] Raspail:
Fine. But as usual, before using benchmarks let's see what they represent compared to the real thing.

In this case, using the same resolution to compare, seems fair. And probably under 320x240 the HD would be excellent.

However such resolution for a 3.8" screen starts to be quite poor. So, good benchmark results wouldn't tell alone how "good" is the final feeling.

The point here is to know if the benefit of a large screen is ruined or not by video performances under higher resolution. I don't think it is from the video I can see.

The ultimate test is: how is the global appreciation of video on the HD including the effect of screen size (bigger, better), definition (bigger BY INCH, better), smoothness (in fast actions) and good synchronisation between video and sound.
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
Raspail,

I do not know English very well, so I sometimes hard to tell, but video 320x240 in 3.8 inch display looks great. and to measure productivity and marvel qualcomm need to test video 320x240. For me it is important
[Touch HD General] Raspail:
No need to apologize for your English. English is not my native language either and I think I can undertsand you well enough.

If you are saying 320x240 is enough even under 3.8 inches for video, then you are right. Why testing at higher resolution?

Still, in comparing at the same resolution, the point is what is the level when the eye doesn't see a difference? 280% is better than 120% in a benchmark, for sure. But does this make a visible difference in real? Does 70 or 50 makes it bad enough to be seen?
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
Yes, 70 or 50 makes it bad enough to be seen.

I want to hold the test was not intended to enhance the image and compares platforms Marvel and Qualcomm, and to make different screen resolution, you'll need a video with the permission settlement equal to the smallest screen, in this case - 320x240
[Touch HD General] mike91t:
I've searched and can't find any pics of the phone answer button... Please confirm It uses the new slide to answer function?
[Touch HD General] orb3000:
Do you know Google?

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1287
[Touch HD General] nailouia@:
Does the Touch HD have CSD?

Hi John,

Does the Touch HD have CSD capability (NOT HSCSD/GPRS/EDGE)?

Have you been able to make a CSD (Circuit Switched Data) data call to an ISP and surf the web as a test?

CSD functionality is required to make an

Encrypted

voice call

SecureGSM Pro: http://www.securegsm.com/product.php?productid=20&cat=1&page=1

Thanks,

Nailoua
[Touch HD General] Leglehid:
Signal Reception

The only thing stopping me from ordering a Touch HD is concern about its ability to detect and hold onto a signal (GSM, HSDPA, etc). A number of new devices have been reported to have signal problems, e.g., Blackberry Bold, Nokia E71, HTC Touch Diamond.

If the signal-detection and -holding is good on this device, and there are few or no dropped calls, I'll put an order in.

BTW: I offer my thanks to those who have this device and have been so generous in sharing their knowledge and experience of it.
[Touch HD General] tboy2000:
Hear hear. Thanks for all the advice so far from owners.
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
I've been having signal fluctuations on my Touch Pro in weak areas..it will go from 2 bars to no signal in low reception areas. I think this is primarily due to the radio ROM though.

I believe John said his Touch HD got better signal strength and call clarity than his Touch Diamond had. If you look back to the start of the thread--->
[Touch HD General] Leglehid:
Thank you, utvol06: I missed that somehow!
[Touch HD General] juiceppc:
Can people post some pics of their HD? 22 pages and 1 lousy pic...
[Touch HD General] townkat:
ups, never mind
[Touch HD General] peek:
Tomorrow evening I'll have my Touch HD and I'll be glad to help you all posting pics.

I can't wait until tomorrow :S

btw. I'm from Switzerland and I bought it from a local online shop. The only version available was the english one, the one I was looking for. :D

German, french and italian versions aren't yet available.

See you all tomorrow ;)

PS: The Touch HD will replace my old (but lovely) Qtek 9000 (HTC Universal)...
[Touch HD General] Oppressa:
Do you think it's going to look any different to previous photos of the device?
[Touch HD General] jalilasghar:
Has anyone used the HD to view PDF or CHM documents at all please? I'd like to know what these look like and whether you have to zoom frequently etc.. I'm interested in buying this phone and want to be sure that the phone's also a capable and decent document viewer, apart from all its other wonderful features. Thanks.
[Touch HD General] JanSchotsmans:
Yup, in the Flo's settings menu you can add/remove the tabs you don't want.
[Touch HD General] JanSchotsmans:
According to our supplier the Dutch and French version will arrive in stock on Friday (7/11/2008) which should mean they arive here on monday or thuesday.

I got my WWE model today and am loving it.

In the office here we have people with HTC TYTNII, HTC Touch Cruse and HTC Touch's. The TYTNII with standard firmware is possibly one of the worst I've ever had to deal with. The thing hangs, crashes, has a touch filter that doesn't respond to anything, is slow, lags, looses data, syncs slow and generaly acts funky.

My collegue with the Touch Cruise was displeased with the speed of his phone, untill he installed Sirius on it. Now the thing is flying and sweet to handle.

I bought the WWE HD and received it today and another collegue wanted the NL version which will arive early next week.

What I like most about the HD are the following things:

- Out of the box its way faster then any other HTC I've come acros, much better polished and clean. It shows HTC had some practice for this interface with the Pro and Diamond.

- Eventhough its got a huge screen and good long lasting battery, its actually thin, relativly light and doesn't look bulky at all.

- You get a free Sandisk 8GB MicroSDHC card with the phone.

- The audio is great, even the phones built in speaker sounds nice and has some bass.

- Watching and recording video is great on this thing (and with this screen it should).

I sure hope the firmware moders have a fieldday on this thing and make it even faster!
[Touch HD General] lie_ui:
Guys,

I read the user manual and found out that the antenna location in the HD is actually in the rear part of the HD instead of the upper part. And there is a warning in the manual not to touch that antenna location while using the phone.

So, how would you hold the phone while talking and not to touch that antenna location?

Second question, about the speaker.

It seems to me that the only speaker location is the front (the ear piece).

Is this right? I have a Prophet and it has a small speaker (ear piece) and another one in the back for "speaker" mode. I prefer it just in the front (same design like the old Wallaby etc).

Is this the case with the HD?
[Touch HD General] indup:
any feedback on battery life i remember the touch diamond battery being really poor?
[Touch HD General] dennis333:
I'm crossposting my earlier question about the presence of a lanyard hole in the Touch HD.

This because I hope for an answer from people who have the actual consumer/release version (dutch) in their hands.

I'm using an electric wheelchair and using a phone without a lanyard is neigh impossible for me.

(At the moment I'm a proud owner of a (tweaked) Touch Diamond; with a lanyard offcourse...)
[Touch HD General] supersquash:
Has anyone seen any decent form fit cases for the HD yet like the ones for the iPhone? I realise the phone is only just out, but better safe than sorry!
[Touch HD General] NeedAPhone:
Any case for Iphone 3g will fit, they are identical in size.
[Touch HD General] supersquash:
You're sh!tting me right?

Surely not identical in size and shape? That sounds too good to be true?! One thing though, the camera isn't in the same place...
[Touch HD General] losdrivare:
They have identical dimensions, so any softcase will fit anyway.
[Touch HD General] peek:
Here you can see the included bag... sure not enough for most people.

But I think I'll try it for some time.

http://www.winmo.nl/?p=966
[Touch HD General] here4info:
ambiance sensor

Thank you all the early adopters for sharing your experiences!

How is the ambiance sensor on HD? Does it turn the screen brightness to minimum in total darkness to maximum in bright daylight?

thanks.
[Touch HD General] Akhara:
about flash

does htc touch hd support java flash player?

I mean, is it possible to acces to website like Imeem, and listen some streaming music or watching video from Imeem?

and did someone try if is it possible to use the front cam, or the microphone while chatting on WLM or skype??
[Touch HD General] nu_D:
I did a quick search in the HD manual and it DOES have an ambient light sensor.

How well it performs is yet to be seen, but odds are it's going to act like a typical ambient light sensor, doubt there is too much variation in performance there.
[Touch HD General] Beards:
Yes it does.

Chapter 12.10 of the manual states:-

12.10 Java

MIDlets are Java applications such as games and tools that can run on mobile devices, while a MIDlet suite is a collection of one or more MIDlets. The Java program lets you download, install and manage MIDlets or MIDlet suites on your device. Your device supports Java 2 Micro Edition, J2ME.

To open the Java program

Tap Start > Programs > Java.

Install and launch MIDlets/MIDlet suites

There are several ways to install a MIDlet/MIDlet suite.

To download and install via Internet Explorer Mobile

1. Tap Menu > Install > Browser to open Internet Explorer Mobile.

2. Locate the MIDlet/MIDlet suite while connected to the Internet.

3. Select the MIDlet/MIDlet suite to download.

4. Information about the MIDlet/MIDlet suite is then displayed. Tap Continue.

5. Confirm to start downloading.

6. Select <root> or a folder where to install the MIDlet suite to, then tap OK.

To install from your device

You can copy MIDlets/MIDlet suites from the computer to your device using the USB sync cable or Bluetooth connection. Copy them to the root folder or any subfolder on your device.

1. Tap Menu > Install > Local Files. The program then searches for MIDlets/MIDlet suites on your device and displays them in a list.

2. From the list, tap the MIDlet/MIDlet suite that you want to install.

3. Confirm to start the installation.

4. Select <root> or a folder where to install the MIDlet suite to, then tap OK.

To run a MIDlet/MIDlet suite

Do one of the following:

• After installation of the MIDlet/MIDlet suite is complete, tap Yes.

• On the Java screen, open the folder that contains the MIDlet/MIDlet suite. Select the MIDlet/MIDlet suite, then tap Launch.

Manage MIDlets/MIDlet suites

You can organize MIDlets/MIDlet suites into folders for easy identification, renaming, updating, and more. If the device memory is full, uninstall some MIDlets/MIDlet suites to free up memory space.

To create folders

1. On the Java screen, tap Menu > New Folder.

2. Enter a folder name, then tap Create.

To update a MIDlet/MIDlet suite

Tap and hold a MIDlet/MIDlet suite, then tap Update. Alternatively, you can tap Menu > Actions > Update.

Java will search for updates for the selected MIDlet/MIDlet suite where it was installed from before.

To uninstall MIDlets

Before you uninstall a MIDlet, make sure that it is not running.

1. Tap and hold the MIDlet, then tap Uninstall.

2. Tap OK to confirm.

Note To uninstall all MIDlets and folders from the current folder, tap Menu > Uninstall All.
[Touch HD General] Raziel1:
Hi all, just got my german HTC Touch HD

But i have got two problems:

1: The stated 8GB card which should be included (written in the manual)

was not :/

2: 2 Dead pixels in the screen, always appearing white :/

3: when switching to camera mode, there is an arrea of around 2-4 pixels which are white. not dead pixels, more like the sensor has a damaged area of 2-3 pixels and when look at the camera view, it shows you those dead spots :/

I wonder what i should do now, and i hope its not a general HD problem...
[Touch HD General] Beards:
If it's a 'White pixel this is not a Dead Pixel but a Stuck Pixel.

A white pixel means all three sub-pixels have failed while a green, red or blue pixel means one of the sub-pixels has failed.

You could first try massaging the screen to see if you can free the pixel.

PC's have dedicated software for testing screens and in certain cases freeing stuck pixels.

Unfortunately there is no such software available for a PPC/Phone.

If you can't free the pixels get in contact with the seller IMMEDIATELY.

Leaving it to late will result in the machine being sent for repair as opposed to replacement.
[Touch HD General] Raziel1:
yeah i know, i will call the store today. massage would not be possible, as the screen is not like a LDC screen. there is more than one film on top, for the touch feature enabled. so you cant massag the pixleas you cant reach them. (not to forget that the screen feels a bit like glass).
[Touch HD General] Beards:
Ahh... stupid me... Of course you can't massage it.

Looks like a call to the seller then is on.

Good Luck.
[Touch HD General] lynxstan:
I just recieve a test unit to play with and the first thing i wanted to test in video capabilities

I tried installing Coreplayer..but the strange thing is after the installation, I cannot run it...when i click it, it does nothing...

I tried installing TCPMP..but this time, it fails to be install...give me an error that it cannot be installed and ask to install on another drive..tried to install on the memory card and it failed too

Anybody had the same problem...maybe my firmware is out dated
[Touch HD General] Akhara:
oh thank you! so it's possible, then i will cash for this sweet mobile

i will try when it will be avaible in france..

by the way i want to ask to all of you, here in france, all french operators forbid us to use any VoIp or using microphone for WLM/skype with theirs services, what about your countries operator? is it the same?
[Touch HD General] luckyuser:
I also have some questions about the Touch HD:

1. Can you attach a lanyard to the HD?

2. Can I create a standard todayscreen with a picture of my own choice, wihtout any other features on the screen?

3.For example I use SPB Mobile shell 2.1.2, SKTools 4.4.4.1, SpriteBackup 6.5.2 . Somebody any experience with these apps on the HD?

4.Is it also possible to transfer date to the SD-Card (USB-cable) without an app like WM5Storage. Would be very helpfull in regard of the position of the SD-Card of the HD?

5. How about a softreset, is it difficult to do? I use that option everytime when install a new app!

Can we share an overview of apps software/freeware that can be used and works correct on the Touch HD?

Thanks in advance!
[Touch HD General] eskasi:
For 4)....I am sure you can. Even on my Diamond, it asks you when you plug the phone in whether you want to connect the phone as a USB Mass storage device or Activesync. ie, you can plug into any PC and use as a flash drive....assuming you have a cable with you.

5) ....I would use PXshutXP....google it. Its a free app. Brings out a window which allows you to tap a button to soft reset the phone. No need for the stylus anymore!
[Touch HD General] here4info:
Most of the time (not always though) soft reset is needed when the phone freezes in some app, or is responding wayyyyy slow.. any app based soft reset is not exactly handy in that case. i agree though that if the reset button is hidden under the battery cover, apps like these will be useful at times..
[Touch HD General] Petros601:
what is with this problem?

Could you post screenshots from aps like

-space time

-pdfo

-pera

-etc..

?

thank you
[Touch HD General] sail0r:
Hi,

As far as I know, there is no such limitation in Poland. I have additional data transfer service, which allows me to recive 2GB each month. So I use Skype, and have no problem with it.
[Touch HD General] Insaneboy:
So how does it handle regular videos (of shows that one can happen upon on the internet :rolleyes:) without conversion?

Can anyone post screens or a video of the radio program?
[Touch HD General] ciro85:
Can you say more about battery?!
[Touch HD General] Super Chimp:
Battery wise has anyone tried to use it as a modem yet, does it last well in this use?

Are their likely to be any issues trying to use it as a modem for a Mac laptop?

Is the lack of D Pad an issue, as I have heard people say the X1 is better because it has a physical D Pad?

Thanks.
[Touch HD General] Louis:
How about 3g reception ???

I sold my Diamond because of the bad 3g reception, My Htc Touch Cruise has an "ok" reception for 3g, but the Diamond was very bad, even with the latest radio's/roms.

Anyway, I just ordered the HD at pdashop.nl
[Touch HD General] mr_absinthe:
If you would like to see more images and typing in action, there's just been new review posted http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-slashgear-review-part-1-0521514/ Quite a few images as well.
[Touch HD General] Super Chimp:
Thanks for that, seems a bit of a mixed review to me. Doesn't leave me any clearer as to whether to get this device or not.
[Touch HD General] Akhara:
lucky you.. well you know.. French operators are well known for practicing high price and bad services ^^
[Touch HD General] jon-:
To me that reads "buy an iphone"
[Touch HD General] losdrivare:
And to me, this reads "someone wants to start an unwanted and uncalled for argument".

Don't feed the trolls. :)
[Touch HD General] Super Chimp:
Well I had a first gen iphone up until recently so I am not going down that route again.
[Touch HD General] jon-:
Fair enough, trolling statement, low post count, I'd be the same. I was short in my reply but my sentiment was accurate. To expand I took from that review that the HD was nearly on par with the iphone bar the screen in hardware, but the iphone apps store and the way the iphone "just works" means is the better phone.

Again, perhaps this wasn't just from that review but it's the feeling i've been getting the past few weeks when researching the HD. I'm windows mobile through and through, have been since the e100 and i'm currently on my 5th winmo device but until winmo7 is released and they remove the need for a stylus (so htc can get on the captive screen band wagon) HTC devices are always going to be hind the iphone if they're PURE touch, like the HD is.

There, less troll for you :)
[Touch HD General] losdrivare:
Thanks for concretizing.

I guess the iphone comparisons are unavoidable considering the striking similarities between the devices. Still, said comparisons tend to spark up contoversy around here and the arguments usually get stuck.

IMO it's best to keep those comparisons confined to dedicated threads, not to ruin the original (this) thread.

But that's just my opinion, I'm no mod. :)
[Touch HD General] jon-:
I agree, point taken. (nice word concretizing)