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[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Instantly lose warranty.

Troubleshooting will be harder as you alter the setup and make the device unique from the stock ones.

No going back once you trip the Knox e-fuse.

No secure folder or Knox functionality.

Trade-in option with Samsung or carriers is gone once the e-fuse is tripped.

The only way to revert the e-fuse trip is to replace the mobo as it's a physical eprom like breakable link within a chipset likely a big proprietary BGA.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] damaisnland:
so what exactly is the knox functionality?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] joancolmenares:
You also lose Samsung Pay, and some apps actually need Knox on (banking apps mostly).
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] damaisnland:
How about google pay? Also is there no way around using the banking apps?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] joancolmenares:
I think you have to install some stuff like Safety Net for banking apps to work, no idea if GPAY is affected but I'm assuming it is
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] damaisnland:
thank you
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Zempathy:
Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't magisk hide allow GPay to work?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ‬1‬:
Banking apps, google pay work with magisk and zygisk just fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] damaisnland:
so in terms of software, everything will work but the phone wont be elligible for things like trade ins?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ‬1‬:
I don't know about the other stuff but banking apps work fine with magisk+zgysik+adaway combination.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] FernBch:
Root is now a personal choice. Where I am it does not void the warranty. A hardware failure must still be covered. As far as everything else goes you just need to decide if it's worth it. Last time I rooted the only real benefit I got was AdAway. Sure I could use Titanium Backup, but there was no point in it anymore. Using magisk-hide made G-Pay and everything else work and I could run a custom kernel but it actually wasn't worth the hassle. To me anyway....
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] gettinwicked:
If it weren't for the warranty and such, ZERO. I've been on Pixels for years and the first thing I do when I get a phone is unlock the bootloader so I can root when it's available. Viper4Android and DarQ are worth it alone. Not being able to root is going to be a serious adjustment for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DaReDeViL:
Let's not forget that a (un)rooted samsung phone will also not be able to :

- run latest samsung health

- correctly pair with galaxy watch
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] varcor:
You'll also lose access to all future updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dr.ketan:
It's been fix with new patch, secure folder too

Only rooted phone now

- can't use SPay (GPAY is alternative) in mobile, still can use watch

- can't use Samsung pass (Google password alternative)

- No OTA (Can flash with odin)

- No warranty
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DaReDeViL:
Sure but if you're UNrooted you're stuck anyway, isn't it?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dr.ketan:
SPay and s pass yes, it will never work

Rest of things works again once we re lock bootloader
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] DaReDeViL:
Oh! I just exchanged my unrooted relocked s21 with a brand new one just to regain use of samsung health which was refusing to work ...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dr.ketan:
This is thief - police game lol.

Dev community fix the issue and Sammy introduce new with new os update

But agree, development is pain on Samsung now a days, though on A12 everything good now except old SPay and s pass issue
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Zempathy:
so you can pair samsung watches?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dr.ketan:
Yes, but it needs to patch.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Sorry I lost track off this thread.

Knox is a core security feature on Samsung's that integrated into the hardware. It's nothing but a source of grief to me...

The better question to ask yourself is what do you hope to accomplish by rooting a new flagship phone? You've barely even shaken it down and it could have display* or mobo issues. At least take a few months to see what its normal operations are like. If you can't get it to function as you wish you can always root it.

Either way you will need to optimize it to get the most out of the device... Samsung's are like that.

*Almost all variable rate displays are suffering issues including outright failures. If that happens you want it on Samsung's dime not yours. Some serious shakedown time is warranted.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
That's what I was going to ask. What are the pros of rooting? As for me:

-Viper4Android (don't know if there is a no root version)

- Call recorder

- customizing apps like firefds, dark tricks, 3minit batter

- Apps that require root: titanium backup, adaway, YouTube vanced, logcat, terminal

So, to me, the pros are better than the cons (which is basically knox). What about you?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
I have 2 stock N10+'s, one running on Pie, one on 10. Both are fast, very stable, with good SOT and fullfill their mission with minimal maintenance.

The current load on this one will be 2yo this June. Being Snapdragon's they are notoriously hard to root. They are too valuable and there's little for me to gain for the associated risk or time that would needed to root them.

I leave the firmware alone, no updates/upgrades. Security is not an issue.

Stock Androids are extremely hard to crash, but rooting changes that. If I'm fixing the device... I'm not using it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
What you mean hard to crash? And I was talking about exynos version.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Boot loop, etc.

Your version is much easier to root.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dj24:
Using Youtube Vanced on my unrooted S22 Ultra here..
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
Again I say:

Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] bobimbap:
I bought my Note 20 Ultra in Vietnam and had it rooted. I brought it to the US and trade it in for S22 Ultra directly on Samsung website just fine. Samsung only care about the phone's condition as you told them.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
According to Samsung online support they do as long as it's in good condition. They must be desperate. To fix that requires replacing the mobo.

Either way I greatly enjoyed my little text chat with Sammy. I explained why I didn't/won't buy a new Samsung and bought a second new N10+ instead. It involved numerous references to dropped balls by Samsung's CEO. Nothing like placing a well deserved napalm run on target.

That was fun... I like cheap thrills🤣

But not the S22U... rounded display corners, really?🧐

Maybe it make an ok field improvised hammer, anyone care to test that?

WHAT'S YOUR NAME? NOTE! not.

Be really glad you're not the Samsung reps I talk with... I tend to break 'em.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Hm.. I can't remember what are the advantages of using Vanced rooted. Is it more stable?

@mookiexl, i always rooted my phones, from Sony to Samsung. It was always very easy and if you know what you're doing, there's no risk.

Is this app as good as V4A? Cause Viper makes my Galaxy buds from lame to incredible.

What about the other apps like Titanium Backup , Call recorder, terminal and logcat? What about TWRP? Can those be replaced?

I don't care for streaming (my rooted phone still has HD streaming even rooted) or Knox, but if all that list I posted can be replaced by other means, I'll probably stop rooting.

What about changing statusbar icons?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
You can completely remove them from the home page with Good Lock Quickstar which is all I care about. The nav bar icons can be changed as well with Good lock on stock phones.

The white page indicator dots however can't be removed or color changed at least on my current Pie firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
My issue is with the battery icon. I like circle icon with percentage inside.

What about the other apps and TWRP?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Akshat Pasbola:
Better buy a new phone for samsung exclusive features if u r a Samboy.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
You blow the Knox efuse on Samsung's if you root; it can't be reset as it's solid state not firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
I just wipe it. I use Energy Circle or just pull down the notifications panel. Lol, I take my dark mode seriously. I always liked the Kitkat dark look.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Akshat Pasbola:
Lol
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Facts if you got any...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
Wavelet is as good as V4A IMO. I use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lma.callrecorder for recording calls or you can always switch CSC. Hex installer effectively allows theming the statusbar and much more. None of the other apps or recovery mentioned have any non-root alternative .
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
Accubatery circle icon with percentage in side.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
That's 100% false. I would be able to tell if bootloader was unlocked so I'm sure Samsung can.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Village_Idiot:
Knox is Samsung's security system (think Fort Knox). Once you lose that, you lose Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, pretty much everything that requires a secure environment. Even certain third party banking apps can stop working if you trip Knox.

Back in the early days of Android, rooting your phone was the only way to get full functionality and get rid of baked in carrier apps. Rooting is not as relavent now for most users. Especially since bloat removal apps that don't require rooting are available, and the fact that most flagship devices have over four times the base storage capacity.

I haven't rooted since the Samsung Galaxy Nexus. That was 10 years ago.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] vegetaleb:
For me rooting was for ads blocking, yoitube vanced and tons more mods like long press to kill app. But now that vanced is dead and long press to kill doesn't properly work...

Though if a fully working pixel experience rom comes out then I will root my SD s22u
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dj24:
Wow... I had no idea that Vanced is no more. I had to google it after seeing your post and it sure looks like the stunt they pulled with the non-fungible token is what got them in the end. Really sad!

Any decent alternatives you've found so far?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Can I move it to the right where the original battery icon is located?

What about TWRP?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
No TWRP without unlocking bootloader. Accubatery only allows battery on the left because it's a persistent notification icon.You can use hex engine to theme battery and status icons without root. I prefer battery on the left and clock on the right
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
No TWRP means no backup. I have hex installed in my current phone and it cantdo much about battery icon. After updating to A12 (no gravitybox) i could only change battery icon with 3Minit, which requires root.

But the icon isn't the biggest issue, V4A is what I really need. It makes my regular esrbud into a beast with great volume and bass. I tried wavelet, but it sucks, it does not compare to V4A. Is there a no root version of V4A for android 12?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
Wavelet is a very adequate replacement for V4A for my needs and it adjust to different head set brands. Set it to legacy mode to get the most out of it. It sounds to me that you're sold on root. Root away my friend. I too use to feel like I couldn't survive without it.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Yes, I kinda am. But if I could get around those 2 issues (V4A and battery Icon) I would probably not root. Anyway, I'm still trying to find out if my country model can be rooted. (Even created another thread for this, lol)

I'm not sure what model it is, but it seems it's SM-S908EDRKZTO. So, SM-S908E, right? E means Snapdragon. This means it can't? The root thread is quite confusing.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
You definitely can root Only the US and Canada SD mod models are SOL.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
I believe you missed a ponctuation lol. "You definitely can root. Only the US and Canada SD mod models are SOL." What is SOL? What models can't be rooted? Those: SM-S908U (USA); SM-S908U1 (USA unlocked); SM-S908W (Canada)?

EDIT: What changed from older Samsung phones? Samsung implemented bootloader unlocking into this models now?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dalepl:
There was a time I rooted my devices mainly to debloat and free up memory. The new devices do not have much in the way of carrier added bloat. Samsung and Google add most of the bloat, but there are apps like ADB AppControl that will allow you to hide those apps so all they use is the memory they are loaded on, but they do not use resources anymore. Big step for unrooted phones. New device comes with a lot more memory now, so removing the apps to free memory is not the issue it used to be.

I personally want the functions of the phone, so I no longer root. My last 3 phones have worked quite well out of the box. I also have a Watch4 Classic and do not want issues with it when connected to my phone, but as was said, rooting is a personal choice and my choice is not to. I also did not like that there was always issues of one sort or other with mods (whether firmware or an app), so again, I stick to stock with firmware and most apps. I do use a few custom apps that I have liked for a long time, but the majority of my apps are the stock loaded apps.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope it is an experience you enjoy.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] mookiexl:
I did indeed missed a punctuation. SOL means sh!t out of luck. U and W models can't be rooted as far as I know. Samsung started removing the ease of root for those variants back when I had an S6 edge and was one of the reasons I didnt own another Samsung phone until a year ago. When I get the urge to root and play around with roms or mods I have 3 other phones that I can switch to for a few days. With my current set up on this device, I have no need or want to root.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
That's nice, but you lose the percentage. You won't know if it's at 20 or 30 percent. I like minimalist statusbar as well, but i need at least a clock, wifi, 4g and a internet speed (st center). Accubattery is cool, but it leaves the battey icon left, and I'd hate that. I'm used to jave nothing but notifications there and I would get confused all the time. 3minit app is THE best battery icon replacer. If only it could be installed without root. But I think it's not possible.

@mookiexl , well, maaaybe if you have s really good earbud. But galaxy buds aren't that good. So v4a is a deal breaker for me. I'm currently testing Poweramp equaliser, but it seems it doesn't have such good bass as v4a.

Now, what would be the real drawbacks of rooting?

Knox is only good for samsung pay and pass. Both can be done with Google pay (and google saves all my passwords. Also if I ever leave Samsung I'd still have my passwords saved, I'll never leave Google).

As @Akshat Pasbola said, if you look BL and flash stock firmware no one would know you tripped knox. If it's a hardware thing, I don't think Samsung would do what is necessary to check that.

Besides, warranty is only 1 year, so you might wait for that to root or just root after testing the phone. I've never used my warranty in any of my phones, ever.

All the other drawbacks can be avoided somehow, so just why not root?

TL;DR: V4A is unbeatable and no app can replaced 3minit battery. Root drawbacks can be avoided somehow.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
I simply pulled down the status bar. The Energy Circle can be color coded in multiple zones. So when I see yellow it's charge time. Uses very little battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] ffp.:
Hmmm. That's actually a good idea. But according to this image you won't know if it's at, for example 20% or 9%. While 20% might give you some hour or two depending on what you're doing, 9% won't last much. There were several times that I was out and couldn't charge, so I avoided using battery eater apps to keep my phone alive until I got home.

Also, since those f**kers don't add notification LED anymore, I use apps to blink around the camera as a notification led. This would conflict with this battey app. It's a pretty nice idea, though. Just not for me, unfortunately.

Maybe a battery bar, but I find them very.. ugly.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] blackhawk:
Lol, I feel you. I'm very particular about the appearance and my phone's UI is heavily customized. Fortunately with a stock Samsung it's easy to do especially on the flagships.

It's been a while since I set it up but I think you can define the percentages when you first set it up. One thing I don't like is it has no impost/export option. So I was reluctant to investigate that🤣

Taking the battery below 20% is stressful for it.

So once I see orange it's time to bug out.

It's actually quit useful as I hate white status bar icons destroying my dark homepage while slowly devouring pixel lifespan.

At over 2.5 years this N10+ has zero observable display degradation and no dead pixels ie ScreenTest. I may opt to go to a red/org/yel color scheme to cut out the vulnerable blue pixel usage. You can also control the black gradient when you mix the colors to increase/decrease intensity. I have already toned their intensity down by about 50%. AMOLED conservation...
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Janhaus:
Late to the convo but about to get an S22 Ultra so I figure to ask. The single biggest reason I root phones is to transfer apps and corresponding app data. Has this gotten easier/better? Specifically with chat applications like Line, WeChat, WhatsApp etc?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] eyalsa:
Swift backup work well for me. I never used it unrooted, so I don't know if it is necessary for your aim.

I can inform you that recently SaftyNet fix do not work anymore, so you can't use Gpay. Samsung Music Share also don't work for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Janhaus:
Getting my phone today, will try Swift backup out! Hopefully I can transition without root since apparently my US version of S22 is unrootable
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] Frau Son:
I know several people already answered but what I found (not on the S22 Ultra, but the S20 FE - still the same probably applies to the S22 Ultra):

- banking apps won't work as long as in the rooted state (not even with Magisk Hide), as soon as bootloader was locked my banking also started working again. This included the banking app itself, Push-TAN app and my mobile card app (in case your bank doesn't offer Samsung Pay connectivity as it's the case for mine).

- Samsung Pay and Samsung Health are forever lost for me; I am on a super old build of Health simply just because I want a step counter and there was only ONE modded APK that still worked on my device.

So as soon as KNOX is tripped you're most likely out of luck with several Samsung apps.

- Awkwardly enough, some apps still recognize that my phone once was rooted (probably due to KNOX being tripped) so I get odd warnings from time to time.

- Google Play doesn't let me pay via PayPal, Klarna etc. anymore. Stuff's working perfectly on my tablet but not on my ex-rooted device. Only way I can pay for in-game items is by buying Google Play gift cards and adding them to my funds or wait until I earned enough money from the Google Rewards app.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] MRDOCA:
There is a new safteynet mod 2.0 by displax that works
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] dr.ketan:
1.It depends on bank app security, I have two bank app and no issue on any of it

2.Samsung Pay doesn't work on device but I can use it on my watch. Also I can use Google pay from device alternatively.

There is patch available for Samsung health and I am using latest s Health from Playstore

3.Never noticed it from my 100+ apps I am using.

4..Haven't used PayPal but I can pay with card or UPI or GooglePay without issue
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] eyalsa:
saftynet 2.3.1 mod by displax doesnt work for me.

what are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] MRDOCA:
There is a new version. Clear data of Google play services, Google play, wallet etc etc

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-universal-safetynet-fix-2-3-1.4217823/page-91#post-87198517
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] eyalsa:
Thank you @MRDOCA . it still doesnt work for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] MRDOCA:
Did you clear data of the apps? Weird because it works on beyond rom
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] eyalsa:
I did :(
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] eyalsa:
I did.:(
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] MRDOCA:
You weren't on the beta were you?
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] eyalsa:
sorry I don't understand which beta.
[Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra] matale0:
I stay stock and use modded aps :) I like OTA updates and other things like my safe
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] oplock1000:
My phone no longer switches to landscape mode, I flip it open, the screen stays in portrait mode. Any typing or input that I do doesn't show on screen until I close the screen. I've tried to reinstall the ROM and am in the process of trying a new radio/ROM install as well, anyone have any ideas before I take this back to Verizon and get a new one?

Rom: DCD 3.2.5

Radio 3.39.10

Update: Things seen to have a taken a turn for the worse, the handset is no longer turning on after installing radio 3.42.50 via sd card. The backlight lights, but has no display.Arrgh!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] seanatki@gmail.com:
Sounds like a hardware problem to me. Hopefully you can get it working enough (at least booting) to take it back to the store.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] oplock1000:
OK, I took out the battery for 20 minutes, did a soft restart, the phone boots up to the Today screeen, I'm thinking its time to flash the original ROM and Radio and make a trip to the Verizon store.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] hlouie:
NEW FLEX CABLE + EARPIECE+ LCD FOR HTC TELUS 6800 P4000

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-FLEX-CABLE-...1574089QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

Something similar happened to me. The center navigation button did not work, then one by one other feature started to not function. I finally to purchased the eBay part all is back to normal.

Hardware, IMHO
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] oplock1000:
Called up verizon, new phone comes in tomorrow, it looks like the display driver and button inputs were failing, I can reflash the original VZW ROM and RADIO now and try to relock the phone before I have to send it back
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Questions & Answers] marcopast:
So i once took my phone to charge before going to bed and the next morning the screen was just black and the phone was "dead". The screen was black, nothing reacting. Rebooting was possible, but screen still black. I went through a whole night trying to figure out whats wrong and lastly i flashed the stock rom using the recovery tool and accidently ended up locking the bootloader with a non working screen.

Today the replacement screen arrived, i connected the new one, restarted the phone and still its just the screen lighting up a few seconds then turning off as soon as the redmi should appear. It does look like its not the screen but still something in the software. Is there anything i can still do to rescue the phone or is it just dead?

greetings
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Questions & Answers] Mohsin6643:
Try going into the stock recovery mode through hardware buttons (Hold Vol+ and Power) and try and factory reset.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] Tisla_haki:
After havoc updated from version 4.9, it lost USB connectivity. I tried some other ROM but they all have random crashes and error. So what custom ROM, you use?

I tried sakura, arrows, they all work sluggish at best.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 / 5 Plus Questions & Answers] Adib Ahsan:
Ocatvi OS