yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ckj:
Ongoing problem with the phone since version 1.3

I wrote a couple of days ago re a problem (above) with keeping my phone working since installation of v. 1.3 (I am still with 1.3 - haven't migrated to the new test version yet).

I am still having the same problems but have been able to diagnose it a little more: I have been using a bluetooth speaker/ear piece the whole time I have had my diamond (9 months). No problems till now.

This is how it goes: the phone rings (all is normal) and I answer it with the bluetooth. All works OK. Hang up the call and then have no sound (even if I turn the bluetooth right off). I get no dial-tone when I ring out, I can't hear people if they answer the call; if people ring me, the phone doesn't ring, but if I can see there is a call coming in and try to answer it - I can't hear them; they can't hear me. Somehow the bluetooth use cuts off the speaker (even if I try to test the ring in the phone settings, it won't play). I do a soft re-set, everything is OK until I use the ear-piece just once. Have to do a soft re-set again. I tried it with another bluetooth speaker - same problem, so it is not about a faulty ear-piece.

I have not altered any of my phone settings (that I know about) when I installed v.1.3 and have never had this problem before.

I can only use the phone if I don't use an ear-piece which means I can't use it when I drive and have to have all those nasty radio waves going into my head!

Has anyone else had this problem? It seems the bluetooth is interfering with the sound rather than the phone per se. Any ideas how to fix it???

I'd appreciate any ideas because this is driving me nuts.

Many thanks

Colleen
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cocoman:
Bluetooth problem

I use this ROM with my cars handsfree without problems. Just make sure you install the BTSAP.cab for it to work correctly. At first had problems because I didn´t know it was removed from the rom and it is necesary for bluetooth to work correctly.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
for what I know btsap is a package/software that permits to access remotely, trough bluetooth system, the phone sim card... in this way for example is possible to connect "remotely" current address/conact list with blue&me car system

but I don't think is related to the trouble described above... I have to carry out from the drawer my old bluetooth headset & make some tests :)

anyway I strongly suppose that trouble can come from something related to power-save configuration, in fact on 1.4 TEST I totally suppressed the power-save timers related to bluetooth system because were reported more issues than advantages
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
I made this test... installed classic manila + all Sys_yRhodium stuff & I noticed that they take much memory than standard manila edition... I mean from an occupancy of 60/61% with classic manila up to 72/73% with the same configuration but adding the above mentioned Rhodium cabs

So I reinstalled the Rhodium manila without above extra cabs & noticed that memory consumption was regular again... a bit more than classic manila but always lower than 70%

So my conclusion is that a basic Rhodium manila installation takes a bit more memory than classic manila (this I suppose also for its extra tabs) but what makes the real BIG difference are the 3 extra cabs such as new Notification + MenuEnhance + VolumeCtrl (even if I think this last cab doesn't make the difference)

Then this morning I re-installed the classic manila version + Notification + MenuEnhance + VolumeCtrl & played all the day with this new setup

right now my memory occupancy is stable at 73% but I made a lot of things this morning: some made/received calls + sms, a short trip in car using 2 different navigators, played a bit with some games in the bathroom :rolleyes:

the system seems still responsive & stable, I suppose all extra Rhodium stuff are working correctly, volume control presents a single menu, file explorer shows the enhanced menu (even if I prefer the classic wm), notification is working too... if I receive a sms I see its notification clicking on the top... but after all this I presume that a ram consumption near to 75% isn't acceptable on long run, so this is the reason because htc wild guys have increased the total ram amount on diamond2... sincerely I think that, even if is a cool porting/expreiment, all rhodium world wont fit our diamond1... at least not with our poor ram equipment

let's see...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] knave:
Hi Davide,

When you run the Rhodium manila setup, do you have to install classic Manila first prior to installing XBoxmod's Rhodium cab? Or can I just install the ManilaReg.cab then the Rhodium cab?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] smiter:
im using only enhanced menu and notification. i have got about 57% memory consumption with running winterface :) so not bad :) and i have installed new contacts but i dont know how to run them...

i have to say that new 1.4 rom is perfect, everything is working fine for me... so far no problems :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
for who didn't know here below the long explanation (a small tip) to prevent installation after every upgrade/hard-reset of extra cab that must be installed into Internal Storage (CABi folder):

1st time/upgrade I installed all cabs as usual, both CAB & CABi folders, then I went, with file explorer, under "\windows\start menu" folder & simply copying/cutting program links I re-organized my start menu for fitting my needs, then I launched the script "BackupStartMenu" & chosen "backup", so I saved back my Start Menu

before 2nd time/upgrade/hard-reset I edited my config.txt file (always under "Backup and Restore" folder & changed the string related to CABi folder from 1 to 2 (no installation) & checked that I wanted (=1) to restore also my backed up start menu

then I made an upgrade or hard-reset & skipped CABi folder installation phase, but I found that all my cabs installed into Internal Storage kept working... this because 99% of programs installed on Internal Storage don't touch main device memory, so those previous installed programs just need to be correctly driven with right links... & this could be done easly by keeping an updated start menu (with the script mentioned above)

so in few words... you can save much time during every upgrade/hard-reset procedure because CABi has to be processed just once

acting this short tip I save about 10 minutes for upgrading a rom, I'm able to re-install & have a working full rom in less than 15 minutes

of course I install into Internal Storage simple cabs, but as told you above about 99% are very simple... personally I installed into Internal Storage just games & navigators (mine are iGO & Navigon)

hoping to have saved precious minutes to you too ;)

ps: remember that Teeter aka Labyrinth is an exception & must installed into main memory (so CAB folder) or it wont work
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Franceschiello:
You set Pimbk to save every night in folder all apointements, call log... and, at the end, custom.

in Custom it's possible to set favourites files or folder, I would like set my own favorites as default.

Preferences of pimbk where are saved?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] baskient80:
Good rom. No a2dp

This is a great and i mean GREAT!!! ROM. Certainly the best suited rom for using rodium manilla. When installed (rodium) I have about 56 % of ram use which compared to all other roms is quite amazing. I noticed the same thing as stated above that installing the addons increases the ram usage by a lot so..... dont install them. But the bluetooth audio profile isn't working correctly. atleast for me. Tried reinstalling the whole rom without rodium but still the same problem. All sound is routed to the headphone except for mp3 ??? Strange stuff. Tried to install the bt patch stated above(cab file cant remember the name) but no luck. Tried to change the bitrate and frequency settings but still no luck. Going back to cloudy untill a fix is there. Then i will most certainly reinstall cause as stated above : This rom rules. Many thanks for your great work.

Boris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] senab:
I'm personally not liking the performance of Rhodium Manila, too slow for my usage (although the Calendar tab is really good). I also find the Notification Add-on a bit of a waste of resources, my RAM usage went up about 10% with that installed. I like the Menu enhancement though, much more finger friendly. And the single bar volume control is much better.

For me: I have Classic Manila, Menu Enhancement, Rhodium Volume Control, some Manila patches (themes, icons) and S2U2 installed and my RAM usage is 60% after soft-reset. Prior to installing the Rhodium CABs it was about 57% :)

//EDIT. Just saw that a fix has been released by xbmod (V1c). I may give it another try as it's look like it's fixed some of the major bugs.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
in the registry... hmm... they should be saved under HKCU\Software\FdcSoft\PPCPimBackup

create a new key (registry folder) called Custom, inside another key called Entries, then a value DWORD as this "\My Documents\*.*":dword00000001

in few words simply add this line in your tweakPers script:

RegWriteDWord("HKCU","\Software\FdcSoft\PPCPimBackup\Custom\Entries","\My Documents\*.*",1)

of course it's just an example, add a new entry for every folder to backup, you can specify also only 1 file, pay attention because big folders takes much time to be inserted (backups are compressed too)

must tried but should work ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
thx for testing friend... the routing sound trouble could depend by e registry setting... I remember something related to "joint stereo"... some headsets don't like that setting
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
I tested vito too but I felt a bit "lost"... very responsive & fast but I found it a bit too dark... I'm not a vito specialist but I'm seeking that project/development with extreme interest (like also PointUI)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
how did you get working new notification?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] smiter:
i like it coz you may customize your own menu :) full screen or with status bar

full screen example looks like this:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=101092&d=1216776871

and if you have picture in your contact its shown with picture :)

i like it dark :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
for classic manila my cabs are:

Sys_ManilaDiam1135

Sys_ManilaDiamSprintIcons

Sys_zPTManilaREG

for rhodium I used instead:

Sys_XbmodLPolicy

Sys_XbmodManilaRodhium

Sys_XbmodNewContact

Sys_yRhodiumMenuEnhance

Sys_yRhodiumNotification

Sys_yRhodiumVolumeCtrl

Sys_zPTManilaREG

by now I'm with:

Sys_ManilaDiam1135

Sys_ManilaDiamSprintIcons

Sys_yRhodiumMenuEnhance

Sys_yRhodiumNotification

Sys_yRhodiumVolumeCtrl

Sys_zPTManilaREG
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
just installed... but perhaps I didn't understand how it should work... I just saw a different menu when tapping on top & I noticed when I received a sms & found its relative notification in the new menu
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kinggofg:
Tested 1.4. Running well. Confirm DRM functioning properly! yay!

A couple of questions:

1. The speed profile question. I selceted stock this time because of the ActiveSync problems I was having with 1.3. Was this the right thing to do?

2. Any chance you could add an "i" to all the cabs in the repository that you can confirm function properly in internal memory? I'm always afraid of putting anything in CABi even though you say 99% work.

3. I'm a little confused about CAB and CABi. Will the cabs install like normal cabs if I don't want to use CAB and CABi, or do I have to do a hard reset to add in appps later? Also, will udx compression only work on the autimated install or can we use it for any old cab install? How?

Thanks again for all your hard work. This rom is smooth.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] smiter:
CAB is folder for installing cabs to device memory and CABi is folder for installing cabs to internal storage... you just put your favorite tools or programs to each directory and you dont have to install them later :) when boot scrips show option for installing cabs just set to install.... and of coz you may remove or add programs like usual.. there is no difference.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
hmm i cant install cab,i got sign problem,what cab yuo installed,directly from xboxmod manila?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kinggofg:
Thanks for the response. I was more curious about the cabs that are included with this rom not cabs in general. I know some are different than the ones generally available. Also, the scripts do more than just install the cabs in CAB/CABi, for example it looks in the udx config file. Is there any other difference? Can you use udx without installing apps at reboot?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ckj:
I think your problem might be related to mine (post on page 211). After taking the first call, there is no sound - but the speaker will ring when a call comes in - except the speaker then goes haywire too (unbearable feedback noises). If you find the solution, it might help us both.

Good luck with it

Colleen
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Franceschiello:
Hi suiller, many thanks for every answer.

I have dword 0 and not 1, so I try.

Maybe, You must write this in the first page, because it's good for own dictionary learned by phone (but I use touchpal, I don't know if it's possible with other SIP)

More thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] cocoman:
Bluetooth problems

Hi suiller, in my case I couldn´t hear sounds through my cars speakers until I installed the btsap.cab. I could control some functions like calling Voice Speed Dial with my cars radio, but the speakers and mic didn´t work until I installed btsap.cab. Didn´t try with my bluetooth headset though, so I don´t know if it was only a problem with my cars bluetooth.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
i have managed to install new notification, but than i get old notification form widnows, so when i tap to letsay wifi it shows me on what netwrok i am connected, also i set alarm to se if new notification working but it was also old from windows....

probably smth in rom is wrong
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
hmm... I'm almost sure that new notification app works correctly because this morning I waked up with the new alarm notification... very nice

I replaced 2 days ago the cab in our repository because a friend noticed some troubles in the original package, so he drove me on another cab that by now seems working perfect... try to re-download & re-install the cab from our repository & don't forget to reboot after installation ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
sorry for late response but I was out of office for 3 days, so...

1. speed profile doesn't touch AS stuff, it just takes more memory & remove unuseful notification & service (such as stk service), that anyway if needed all provider stuffs can be enabled by installing the Connection Setup cab... of course speed profile feels faster after some usage

2. you are right I'll link a short description soon... anyway all Sys & manila related cabs must be installed into main memory, while for example Gam (games) can be easily installed into Internal Storage... another example Opera should be installed into main memory, while iGO or Navigon nav software can be installed into Internal Storage; all programs (about 99%) installed into Internal Storage don't need to be reinstalled after an upgrade or hard-reset because only main memory will be formatted... you will need just to restore your pre-working StartMenu

3. you can install cabs also after the whole installation procedure but keep in mind that some cabs needs extra configuration, so you can use the script AutoShortCut to re-process all installed cabs, it will recognize "special" cabs & apply needed mods, for example for Opera; also UPX compression can be applied later, there is always a script for that, of course already compressed EXE will be skipped, so you can run every time you install something new
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stanislav.bebej:
Java

Hi Davide,

I tried the Java Gmail app using different versions of Jbed and Jblend (from your repository - still rom 1.3) and it only works with Jbed java. I found the newest version here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=407667

Works great with it, the cab even creates shortcuts in the programs menu (your Jbed didn't :-)).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
fantastic job Stano :) I'll look at that cab in a while...

it's normal that my cabs don't create any shortcuts, if you install some cabs from repository then you have to run AutoShortCuts script this because as you know in our Start Menu we have some folders that aren't present in the standard one so the script simply creates the shortcuts in the right place conforming to our Start Menu structure

thx for cab suggestion this helps a lot ;)

bye,

davide

ps: you suggest SD version or regular one??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stanislav.bebej:
Didn't try the SD version, I downloaded the Esmertec Jbed 20081203.2.1.zip (http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=155494&d=1234179263)

But maybe the SD version is better if it keeps the installed java apps after HR - I don't want to download and install gmail java app every time I do HR. Am I wrong?

I don't understand very much how your AutoShortCut script works but as soon as you release 1.4 stable :-) I'll have a look.

Bye, Stano.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mgs333:
hi davide,

i upgraded to 1.4 and installed teeter cab but i get a message saying something like 'this program may not display correctly since it's designed for an earlier version of windows mobile'. then teeter doesn't show up anywhere in programs.....

i've tried uninstalling and reinstalling a few times but no luck...

[solved: needed to run the autoshortcut script]

also, i've always been curious, when we're doing through the initial setup, it asks something about SmartTouch. What is Smart touch?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
you are right SD version could permit to don't reinstall all java apps after every upgrade/hr because they are stored into Internal Storage, but of course must be tried... I didn't yet
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
I divided smart touch configuration in 2 parts... the default one will enable smart touch on predefined apps, such as Opera, Word, etc... while the 2nd profile (full smart touch) will enable smart touch also on apps that aren't supported by default such as contacts (circling the scroll wheel it will pass trough all contacts), anyway there is a script that can be run alone to enable or disable full features, so you can try by yourself if you fing useful
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dimdimdim:
hi, Davide! flashed 1.4. tried to set up my exchange server, but at final step when normally appears a list of types of information to sync with ES (calendar, contacts, tasks, mail), there is no list at all - just clear field and soft keys - back and finish.

very strange, please, check it.

thanks a lot for your work!

ok, after some minutes I managed to get rid of this problem - I found out, that there some strange "not known" pre-configured server in AS by default. I just deleted it and then everything works as always.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
dont know the mining of this word :(

can you post a link or upload here that cab?

and have you got working new start?

ROM has some problems with ram usage,ram is often too full!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
yep I had to add a "fake server" for who don't use at all exchange stuff & didn't want any AS popup, sorry to haven't mentioned before but you was already able to manage by yourself :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
a standard installation, I mean with classic manila or no manila ram usage is on normal levels, of course with rhodium stuff is normal that consumption is higher, anyway here the repository for downloading all extra cabs & sys stuff
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
my working configuration right now is:

Sys_KbdDiamond2En.cab

Sys_KbdDiamond2NoArr.cab

Sys_ManilaDiam1135.cab

Sys_ManilaDiamSprintIcons.cab

Sys_yRhodiumNotification.cab

Sys_yRhodiumVolumeCtrl.cab

Sys_zPTManilaREG.cab

memory consumption in my opinion is well balanced, start on 54%, after 1 day about 62/63%

the very taking ram cab is Sys_yRhodiumMenuEnhance.cab so by now I wont use it, anyway I'm working on these new cabs to optimize images (compressing & lowering bits), so expect some cabs substitution in the repository

again I'm testing the bluetooth system to try avoid some reported issues, I'll report soon some news

bye,

davide
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] benko286:
thx it is working, and now how to get new start???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mmoonsamy:
carkit

update regarding the bluetooth issue when connected to certain carkits:

i have tried btsap as some have suggested with no change, i have also disabled joint stereo but the problem persists: once connected to the carkit, the phone will completely mute as soon as - after a call is received or made. hope a fix is found soon - love this rom :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
I'm going to replace the bluetooth sys part taking goods dlls from original rom, but it's a long work & above all must be tested :)

anyway I'll produce an alternative cab too for don't re-installing everything
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mmoonsamy:
thanks Suiller - much appreciated :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
ok... if you have time...

try 1st A2DPFix cab... install as regular cab + restart

if still doesn't work then install BlueToothFix cab + restart & again A2DPFix cab + restart

let's start to investigate :cool:

bye,

davide
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mmoonsamy:
cool....will let you know soon.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] baskient80:
a2dp fix reporting back

Ok i tried both patches on a clean install.

after the first patch was applied and restarting the device of course none of the audio is rauted to my headset anymore. Before the volume beeps were but the music wasn't.

so i applied the second patch and restarted the device. This resulted in a "bluetooth hardware not found" error when trying to turn on the bluetooth from within the normal bluetooth interface and also in the "communication pannel".

so i hate to inform you all that both patches didn't work for me. Back to cloudy again i guess.

Thanks for all the hard work and i hope you'll find a fix soon.

Greetings Boris
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] suiller:
ok thx for testing this was very useful :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] kinggofg:
Looks like you added an SD onto items that can go into CABi

COOL!

You don't have Opera and google maps with an SD. I think I usually install those to Inernal Strorage?

Also, why so many Java cabs. Which to use?