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[Touch HD General] mrjubei:
My Touch HD arrived by FedEx on Wednesday so 2 days in this is how things are going for me.

First of all I have to say WOW - the screen is amazing. I have to be honest I was a little worried about how I would cope with the lack of hardware keys and most importantly - no D-pad. Well so far so good. I don't really play many games so no worries there, and the rest has been not too bad.

Build quality is good and so far I am not experiencing any issues with the paint chipping issues that have some have reported. I know it's early days so I am going to keep my fingers crossed that this won't change.

No dead or stuck pixels - real happy with this as it would spoil an otherwise fantastic screen.

Performance wise - I am pretty happy with this device, it seems smooth and responsive and the only issue I have had so far with this is the occasional brief pause for a couple of seconds - I used the hotfix for this and it has been great since then.

I am quite happy with the call clarity, and the sound quality through headphones hasn't been too bad, I did need to mess around with some settings to get this just right.

If there is anything so far that I can say I am a little disappointed in it would have to be the playback performance of divx and xvid files. I have applied the SD tune up but playback still seems a bit choppy. I am using CorePlayer 1.3 - Overall it is watchable but I was hoping that it would nice and smooth.

Maybe the speed of the 16gb card that came with the phone could be the culprit. I am going to keep playing around with things to see if this will improve.

I have installed TomTom 7 - which is all good, but I don't have Australian Maps for it yet. My TT6 maps unfortunately don't seem to work. So I will need to play around with this a bit. I am a bit confused with the GPS setup. Is the GPS always turned on? I can't seem to find any controls to turn this on or off. Also it is supposed to be assisted (AGPS) right? Anyway the GPS functionality is something I have yet to really play with or test out.

I wouldn't mind being able to listen to internet streaming radio - I was thinking about Resco Pocket Radio - I used to use this on my PocketLoox N560. But I don't know if this WVGA res is supported. Any suggestions?

Overall.... love this new device, looks sexy - I haven't come across any show stoppers. Operation is smooth and while arguably not as slick as the iPhone, the HD has all the bells and whistles that I am after.
[Touch HD General] DavidBDraken:
why hate the device?

its not the device problem people! the problem is windows!

why dont you guys try a different player like tcpmp and play with the buff settings.

windows mobile is for business and not good really for media

this device is actually better than iphone, you just need to customize and put the right software to it
[Touch HD General] DavidBDraken:
you should nt have use the car

there is no way kia is better than bmw just no waaayyyyy!!!!
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
which tcpmp version are you using?
[Touch HD General] denied1977:
Very dissapointed.....

I have this phone for a month but I have to admit I'm very disapointed.....

I have to much unsolved problems.....I mean great phone but too much bugs...

In a month (that i have the phone): two times phone rebooted by himself (then i have to enter pin - if i wouldn't have to, that wouldn't be much a problem), today it shut down while i listen music (i had to take out battery and then put it back - nothing else worked), few times i got error while sending sms (don't get it in which cases i got that problem - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=473665 ), etc.

:mad:
[Touch HD General] Charlie3999:
Where to get you HTC Touch HD

I have just got my HTC Touch HD and think it's a great piece of kit. Could do with finding somewhere to get good apps from. I bought mine from this website:- www.mobiles.co.uk/refer.aspx?refer=cust683520

O2 £30/month - Phone is free

600 Minuites

Unlimited texts

£150 cash back (redemption) takes the monthly payment down to around £23.

Unlimited internet £7.50/month (so your back to the original £30), don't forget orange don't offer unlimited internet.

Yhe phone is unlock too.

Great deal if you ask me.
[Touch HD General] ClownShoes:
Have to correct you there I'm afraid. Orange now does an unlimited data plan for only £5 a month :D
[Touch HD General] Charlie3999:
It's not unlimited. Some sites are advertising as unlimited, but when you look into it it has a fair useage policy of 500mb.
[Touch HD General] Rabbit1990:
hi everybody...how's hd durability wise? it's all plastic i mean....n i was watching that the other day on u tube that the screen cover reads somewhat lik remove it from pocket while sittin or screen might break.....
[Touch HD General] syqe:
I wear it always in my pocket never seemed to be about to break.

The only thing some users complained is that the screen is easy to scratch, but it comes with a screen protector, so no biggy.
[Touch HD General] Rabbit1990:
Thanks indeed for ur response...one more thing, i read it somewhere that it's body paint wear off with the passage of time, is it true? i've samsung d900i n pehaps this is the most annoying thing about it....
[Touch HD General] Nara-e-Mastana:
Johnkorver,

What about the picture quantity of the still pictures taken from its camera?
[Touch HD General] tboy2000:
johnkorver;

You said you made some performance tweaks and now the phone is very fast. Can you kindly detail exactly which tweaks you used?

Thank you.
[Touch HD General] exe:
Thanks for the feedback regarding the sound quality. Without any hardware buttons, how do you fast forward/back music tracks? You have to turn on the device screen and 'touch' it?

I use my device for phone and music, I have a HTC Prophet and I can change tracks, fast forward music with just the hardware button mapped to it using TCPMP. I just do this by feel, and leave the device in my pocket. I don't think this is now possible with the HD. Only thing I can imagine is maybe map the volume buttons to skipt tracks foward/back.

I noticed the included headphone has a mic in the middle. Are there any buttons on it? I don't have an iphone, but I think the headphone on the iphone has a button/mic in the middle of the cord, where if you press the button, you can fast forward the track? If so, can you use the apple headphone/controler with the HD? Thanks for the input, I think this will be my next device.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Signal strenght as visualized by the number of bars is roughly the same in my house.

The HD holds the signal more steady, no fluctuations, were my Diamond is swinging from grprs to 3g from 0 to 2 bars.

Didn't have the opportunity to make or recieve a call, but the Speaker is way better when using TomTom. Both the diamond and the Pro were so soft I couldn't hear the spoken directions.

On the HD they are loud and clear.

Music sounds metallic through the speaker.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I used the advanced config tool to set the file system cache to 4 MB, system filter cache to 8192 sectors andGlyph cache to 64 kB.

Made the difference.
[Touch HD General] christonge:
Looking good... BIG thanks for taking the time to give us your valued opinion. Much appreciated ;)
[Touch HD General] stesa:
its what I was looking for ! you are great , thanks a lot ;)
[Touch HD General] christonge:
Have you taken any photos yet? If so what´s your impressions compared to the Diamond? I know you´ve only just got it but if you could let us know your impressions also regarding battery life over the next couple of days, it would be great. Cheers ;)
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Without using a thirth party program you cannot remap a button in coreplayer (I don't use TCMP), just tried it. There is only one button you can remap in button settings and it the press and hold of the green button. But this doesn't work in coreplayer and also in WM player.

This is the same in the iPhone. I also have to turn the Iphone on to skip a track. The standard Iphone headphones do not have buttons for audio playback and the sound quality is awfull (dull sound).

You can buy headphones for the Iphone that do have buttons for playback and sound great (VModa for example).

HTC has a bluetooth headset that should do the trick (see picture).
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
You're welcome ;-)
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
No question, the HD is way better in many aspects compared to the Diamond.

It looks like HTC has taken care of most of the problems the Diamond has.

Overall the HD is fast (with 15 programs installed now), good screen, steady signal, good music through headphones.

I am going to test the phone and the battery the coming days, will let you know.

Going out now
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
Hey John,

Can you confirm there is no GPS lag? Did you walk around outside or what? If there is none this is a huge deal for me. I love my Touch Pro all but the GPS. Touch HD would be my perfect device where I live if the GPS worked as good as the Tytn II.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Oke, one last remark today;

Just called a few friends, the call quality is good, no distortions, good maximum volume (loud) and clear. Again, better than the Diamond and the Pro (repeating this is getting boring.)
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I will check this tonight...
[Touch HD General] SiliconS:
Noooooooo! You must stay in the house and keep writing for your audience here :p
[Touch HD General] Mal Bridgeman:
Big Thanks +1

Mal
[Touch HD General] mkMoSs:
Thank you for taking time to share your experience with the blackstone with us :D

"see for your self"

see what? where? o.O any links?
[Touch HD General] pzucchel:
Hi John, compliments for the first ever report on the touch HD from an XDA member - you should deserve a special recognition!

The soft case is of course a surprise, as well as the 8Gb SDHC. Fortunately, i already purchased the leather beyza case for the iphone - i hope it will fit. If you send me your Touch HD by mail, i can try it out and report about the match...

:D:D:D

....ok ok, in alternative i can indicate you where to buy the right case for your telephones! see below:
[Touch HD General] Huck33:
Thanks for all informations you shared, John

now i'm waiting for mine

do you plan to share some photos?
[Touch HD General] cadenza:
Hi, sorry but I want to ask the same question. I don't understand it now, is the HD able to play divx movies fluid without converting? Please, please test this! With coreplayer.. I need a clear yes or no! Anyway, thank you for all the help!! You are great and really lucky;) congrats!!! Greez, cad^^
[Touch HD General] faw+:
Congrats on your new toy :)

What was the class/speed of the sandisk 8GB card delivered in the package?
[Touch HD General] Domitri:
put it on youtube ill bet it will have huge hits
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
Great thread...now we are getting somewhere since someone actually has one now.
[Touch HD General] Johnny72:
Obviously not today, but as soon you have some impressions, tell us about the battery life...

Great job!
[Touch HD General] Huck33:
did you test the FM Radio?

regards
[Touch HD General] Zuber:
Probably being extremely optimistic here, but don't suppose the FM Radio supports TMC traffic updates (not sure how you test this) ?

Zuber
[Touch HD General] TomF1979:
Hi Johncorver, please can you look which Operators for Austria are included in the manual connection setup?

Br Tom
[Touch HD General] fdevogel:
Hi,

for austria the next operators i see are included:

bob, Telering_Telefonica, T-Mobile, One, H3G AT, Champion and A_Mobilkom
[Touch HD General] fdevogel:
The sdhc card is of class 2.

It took me 5 minutes for 2 GB
[Touch HD General] TomF1979:
Thanks for this Information, so i can use the Auto configure for the connection settings :)

BR Tom
[Touch HD General] faw+:
Good to know, I'll be getting the Class6 8GB card from SanDisk then.
[Touch HD General] TomF1979:
@fdevogel

@johnkorver

Have you got a Userguide in German on CD from the Touch HD?

Maybe you can post it here as .pdf

BR Tom
[Touch HD General] Pilot_O2:
Decent dissatisfaction

Working on Calendar synchronisation for one and a half days (about 60 000 entries) without success I can see some negative points of HD:

- Just inconveniently heavier than Polaris

- Touch 3D starts apps randomly if handled without skill

- Unit is incomfortably wide for one-hand managingpiano players will enjoy)

- Long Volume button accidentally brings up the Volume setting screen

- HTC screen protector looks ugly with fingerprints on the whole upper surface of HD

- You may miss the navigator buttons and one should look for other way of handling in which the slippery side surfaces do not help too much

- Opera is not my world but I simply cannot get rid of it

- iGo 2006 and iGo 8 do not work

- Hidden sof reset button (battery cover should be removed) will be a bad point of some of us until we make a hole on the cover.

Otherwise the machine is really fast (not so fast than the old XDA2 running WM 2003 but faster than Polaris with cooked 6.1). Unfortunately I could not try my usual week choice of apps because of cutting calendar into parts and synchronising the biggest possible. (It looks tha around 70 MB portion goes up and still 240 MB ROM area is available meanwhile activesync sends 'no more memory message').
[Touch HD General] exe:
Thanks for the bluetooth headset picture. Do you know if one can connect headphones straight to the HD 3.5mm device and use the bluetooth clip just for control? That would be best as music played though BT is quite poor.
[Touch HD General] Zuber:
RE: iGo8 not working.

I was looking forward to that...

I read somewhere about having to edit a system file to make it work. Anyone ekse able to shed light on this ?

Zuber
[Touch HD General] Raziel1:
i will buy the sandisk extrem 3 8gb sdhc

much faster than a class6 one
[Touch HD General] Huck33:
may be you need to configure the SYS.TXT file
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
Thanks John for the good scoop!!! I can hardly wait to get mine!! ;)
[Touch HD General] cayotte:
Thanks. I'm eagerly waiting for mine.
[Touch HD General] firas:
How do you find navigating the phone without a directional pad (only using your finger) for things like searching contacts, browsing, using applications, etc?

Thanks :)
[Touch HD General] clb92:
Can you please upload some pictures taken with the HD? :cool:

Do anyone know if I can (when i get my HD!) install and run Destinator 3 navigation software?

November the 6th... I JUST CAN'T WAIT! Thanks for this thread!
[Touch HD General] CEPi:
How is SMS writing? Do you get the keyboard to write SMS in landscape mode, or only potrait mode? Thx and well done.
[Touch HD General] samson010:
play you game on touch HD ?
[Touch HD General] sacha06:
hello,

can someone send a link or adress to order and HD from holland ?

i m in france and no HD here.

thanks a lot
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
Hello. The most interesting questions:

1) Video 800x480 (Approximately), how much % in CorePlayer?

2) Volume and sound quality of external speaker

3) Please upload photo from touch HD

4) Display quality?

Thanks
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
To be honest I am not impressed by the photo quality.

Seems to be better than the Diamond. But in low light conditions; no good photo.

In good/better light conditions, photo's are OK, but lack detail and colot saturation.

But I didn't buy it for the camera;-))
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I tried to upload a video, but for some reason it didn't work.

So you have to take my word for it...
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Thanks, I think I will buy that belt, can I take all my PDA's with me.....

Good change the Iphone case will fit, if it is not to tight. The dimensions of both phones are almost the same.

I was afraid the HD would be too huge, but it really isn't.

Perhaps because of its low weight..
[Touch HD General] TomF1979:
@johnkorver

Have you got a Userguide in German on CD from the Touch HD?

Maybe you can post it here as .pdf

BR Tom
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I don't know, its a standard Sandisk SDHC 8GB microSD card.

Specs are ontheir website
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Yes, the FM radio sounds exactly the same as the one on the Diamond, good quality.

But the maximum volume seems to be a less loud (though loud enough for me.)
[Touch HD General] StashCompInc:
What are the file transfer to card speeds like (via phone USB read/write) ? And where is the card slot ? Any body know if its on the outside or under the cover ?
[Touch HD General] faw+:
Its under the cover, check the tons of pics on the net.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I do agree with your points, except point 1 &2.

- Did not have touchflo 3D starting programs at random, but I am used to TF 3D from my Diamond and Pro.

- Concerning the weight, this is the first device of this size that I doesn't bother me in my pants pocket. The polaris did (but that was probably because of its thickness).

Did not have the sync problems but I do not have 60.000 items ;-) (you must be very busy)

Indeed the HD cannot be operated with one hand easily (but I do have large hands)
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I really don't know because I don't have one.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
iGO 8 doesn't work because it is hard coded to QVGA or VGA.

One should make a WVGA skin and than it should work.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I do not have any problems with that, but I didn't used the D-pad on my Diamond.

The only problem I have is when in Mobipocket I want to switch between full screen and vica versa.

And because the rollout menu's don't work, it would be nice to have a D-pad to navigate the menu items.
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
SMS writing is better than on my diamond.

I can write a sms with my finger and t9.

On my Diamond I frequently mistyped with the stylus, that's history now.

You can type in landscape using Gyrate (which works great), but I don't find it better, but that's my opinion.

pm for Gyrate search the Diamond applications forum
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
No I don't
[Touch HD General] Johnny72:
What about programs?? Can you upload snaps about some application to see how it fits in this big large screen???

I don't know... something like ewallet, sktools, cash organizer... or what you use...

Thk's
[Touch HD General] faw+:
Oups, my main App I'm using is Mobipocket, so how is it doing? is it a pain or is it ok?
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
Only an english userguide, too big to post as an attachment (11 MB)
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
I did not test the transfer speed. At this moment I do not have the time to test it.

Will test the GPS in a few hours outside.

The SD card slot is under the battery cover.
[Touch HD General] surur:
Use Rapidshare, media fire etc please.

Surur
[Touch HD General] johnkorver:
OK youtube video of video playback on the Touch HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9lLAVidgA
[Touch HD General] 4irm:
those questions concerning the SanDisk (Speed)Class are quite "stupid". Because even the capabilities of the slowest sdhc card in terms of its speed (write/read) are higher than the Touch HD is able to handle. The transfer speed is limited by the device controller and cpu power.

btw,

1) what is the resolution of your uploaded youtube video?

2) i do have to write an email from time to time, therefore i was initially going for the touch pro because of its hardware keyboard. Could you please briefly describe if and in case how it is possible to write messages in landscape with the qwerty software keyboard! how is the responsiveness and the speed compared to the touch pro? thanks a lot!

regards

irm
[Touch HD General] rdy2go:
What about GPS lag?
[Touch HD General] rdy2go:
Yeah, what about GPS performance and suspected lag problem?
[Touch HD General] Huck33:
thanks for information

is it necessary to put the headset for FM?
[Touch HD General] Nara-e-Mastana:
Thanks for uploading....Video on Touch HD looks nice...
[Touch HD General] faw+:
@ johnkorver:

Can you pls tell me about the Mobipocket performance, you really got me worried there.
[Touch HD General] gogol:
Hi John,

Have you tested the GPS being used in driving? :)

I know it is cloudy now in The Netherlands, but please if you have any chance to test the GPS lag.

Thanks
[Touch HD General] mortazavi:
Hi

In pictures seems that HD hasn't navigation key, Is it correct?

So How can work with windows mobile without navigation keys? :confused:
[Touch HD General] thierryb:
Sorry for my stupid question, but I have never used a Touch device.

Is it possible to use Transcriber, or even better, Calligrapher, to input text?
[Touch HD General] Pilot_O2:
I personally never used keyboards of whatever kind. Instead I am a fan of Letter Recognizers from Palm Pilot to WM. WM letter recognizer is quite natural and having practice you may enter text quite quickly even accented chars writing letters just like on paper. Processor speed matters. I feel that I make less mistakes on HD than on Polaris.
[Touch HD General] Domitri:
johnkorver : thanks for uploading the video im almost sold to buy me a new HD and sell my diamond :D the screen quality is amazing it puts iphone to shame

can i ask you just one last thing can you do the same with a more action packed scene? that video had alot of slow action, i believe we all want to see it on those fast moving videos to see how it handles :D

but since diamond lagged even on slow moving scenes and lost alot of frames i believe its safe to say that touhd is alot better than diamond
[Touch HD General] Pilot_O2:
HD does not have navigation pad. In the lack of D-pad or navigation keys I have to 'Touch' the screen more frequently. This leaves ugly footprints on the screen and sometimes side scroll bars do not seem to be responsive enough.
[Touch HD General] tigernight:
We appreciate your efforts Johnkorver in reviewing this amazing device ..

As a physician I would like to see how medical programs work in HD in terms of compatilbilty and clearness ..

I give you a sample of these programs to try if you have the opportunity

http://rapidshare.com/files/160218375/acc-sang_ce.rar

thanks in advance .
[Touch HD General] mkMoSs:
ok then it's final, I'm ordering mine :D
[Touch HD General] J273:
Is the HD usable without the tf3d enabled,with it not having a D-pad?

I'm not a fan of the touch flo and would rather install pocketbreeze but unsure if ts going to be usable without a d-pad.

Thanks
[Touch HD General] StaticPlaya:
This quick 1st impression has done it for me I'm getting one but who do I order from and will I get a 8gb micro sd with it? any recommendations?
[Touch HD General] jds580s:
Can you compare the screen quality to the diamond/pro?

Some of the early videos make the blacks levels and viewing angles on the HD not look as good as the Pro which has a great screen in my opinion.

Thanks so much for all your input!
[Touch HD General] hrcro:
Could you test video performance with this file (matrix trailer) in core player and post results?

I own asus p750 (intel pxa270 processor) and i get around 110% with hi settings.

Thanks

http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
p750 - 320x240, HD 800x480.huge difference, can not be compared
[Touch HD General] hrcro:
I tested in vga resolution. P750 has vga screen, and sorg and other great chefs enabled it.
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
ok, we wait
[Touch HD General] utvol06:
I'm waiting on GPS testing for lag.
[Touch HD General] fdevogel:
Battery performance

Hi I just made a trip with my new touch HD, using tomtom just on battery power.

First of all GPS fix was quick! Same as my old kaiser.

I started my trip with the battery at 85 percent, I made one phonecall. After 3,5 hours the battery was totally empty. About the same as my Kaiser would perform I'd say (having the same battery capacity). Tomtom I think is quite demanding on the battery (screen always on, speaker, GPS)

Judge for yourself, is the batery performance good enough?
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
IMHO very good
[Touch HD General] eXodusN:
Very interesting what with HD 800x480 vs p750 640x480