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[Touch HD General] SomethingWicked:
Can anyone tell me if the back panel(s) of the HD are secure? I ask because I am a truck driver and I use a special brand of holster clip where you place a button on the back of the phone and it clicks into your belt holster. Well, I use a standard CB radio microphone holder/clip to hold the phone above the windshield while I'm driving so my eyes don't have far to wonder while I'm navigating using Google Maps. In a review of the X1, the back panel kept coming off, and it was recommended to pinch two opposite corners together in a certain way to misfigure the back panel to keep it from coming off. So I won't be getting on of those. I can't have my $1000 device falling off my belt while I'm walking or falling in the floorboard every time I hit a bump.

Thanks in advance for any input... :)
[Touch HD General] SomethingWicked:
What viewer are you using on your HD? If your using MS Media Player, that's part of the problem. If you've not tried CorePlayer, it's the best I've heard of. But you can't try it before you buy it :(
[Touch HD General] imperiallight:
I had a test of this device yesterday. Its much faster than my diamond but it looks huge to me. I know its not bigger than an iphone but it feels like it, probably due to the screen size.
[Touch HD General] fallenczar:
Well it all depends,

a typical TV Show (~200 MB, 25 Min.) has a resolution of 5**x4** with audio in mp3

these should run fine

a Pal dvd encode (700 MB) has a resolution of 640x272 and bitrate of 800 -1100 kbps

this again should run fine.

a 2 cd dvd encode (1400 MB) with bitrate ~1600 should run fine, except for some occasional jerkiness / tweaking coreplayer

the problem comes in 3 situations.

Fast action scenes - on any bitrate this will create a problem.

Audio encoded with AC3 - no AC3 codec support in coreplayer. if your video has AC3 you will have to reencode. however this should not take more than 2-3 mins with proper tools.

No GPU h264 decoding.- this is actually a bummer, this would have allowed for better PQ at same or lower bitrates and very good battery life. If you somehow do manage to run a DVD resolution H264 encoded movie on HD (which is highly doubtful) be ready for almost 50% more battery consumption.

if you encode your own videos, you may try encoding in WMV (if my memory serves me right WMP should be able to use the graphic accelerator)
[Touch HD General] leon_id:
there're still old versions of TCPMP player like 0.72RC2 and prior which used to be free, google it
[Touch HD General] leon_id:
question to owners both HD and iPhone. i didn't seem to find comparison of screen brightness anywhere. On my iPhone brightness set to probably 5%, and it looks great and saves battery life too. And under direct sunlight backlit is not needed at all. It used to be similar on my BlueAngel/ImatePDA2K device, while on ETEN M700/X650 brightness almost always on 40% and outside it completely sucks and screen becomes almost blind onless you make it 100%.

So how's HD's screen brightness and visibility inside and outside, how does it compare to iPhone? I realy want to get back to Pocket PC :)

Thanks
[Touch HD General] Matterhorn:
This is a very good point for people that use their devices outside in bright sunlight. I cracked the screen on my old HTC Prophet and sent it in to get repaired. They installed a new screen that is "transreflective", which means that it reflects the sun from the back of the screen. It makes a huge difference in sunlight, you can turn the back-light off. My Trinity has the normal "transflective" screen that needs to be full blast in sunlight. I'll see about the HD today when it arrives ;)
[Touch HD General] Ascenca83:
Goor convertion tool?

Hi fallenczar

could you give me an advice for such a tool? Perhaps together with some words about the configuration of the program to get a good convertion?

Thanks in advance.

Ascenca
[Touch HD General] hqqh:
Hi,

windows users can use a video converter tool called Super 2008 (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html).

And under linux you can use the ffmpeg. I will try to change the audio codec from ac3 to mp3 and post the parameters for ffmpeg, input file properties and conversion time.

Regards

hqqh
[Touch HD General] Beards:
SUPER ~ standing for 'Simplified Universal Player Encoder & Renderer' is an excellent tool for video re-encoding.

I've mentioned before I use it all the time converting movies taken by my HD Camera and there's no reason why it can't be used to convert movies for the Touch HD.

All you need to do is select MP3 as the audio output and the files are converted for you.

The link in the post above is to SUPER's creators site.

This site can be a minefield in obtaining the download.

A better download is at Softperdia.com ~ http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Encoders-Converter-DIVX-Related/SUPER.shtml

Beards
[Touch HD General] Ascenca83:
So I only have to select mp3 (for the audio) and thats all? So I can select to "stream copy" the video so it will leave it as it is, right?

Will definitively give it a try this evening. Hope I will get it ;)
[Touch HD General] jon-:
Another question re media playback? If you were half way through a film and you make a call, reboot the device whatever, does it remember where you were in that film? Obviously WMP remembers on current devices providing you don't exit the application, just wondering if the HD goes one further and you can actually exit the application and relaunch at previous location?
[Touch HD General] Beards:
If you look at the picture above ~ This is SUPER's GUI front end.

Load the file into SUPER.

Alter any settings to fit the machine of your choice then hit 'Encode (Active Files)'.

You may need to tweak the settings a bit to get the format exactly to your requirements but once done the program saves this as the default; meaning the next time you load the program it automatically selects your last settings.

Another good read is the Wiki for SUPER:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_(software)

It explains SUPER better than it's creators site.

Beards
[Touch HD General] Nara-e-Mastana:
Thanks Beards for explaining :)
[Touch HD General] mcmkone:
IO actually have had one to play with and to be honest you can upload videos with ease it just depends on how you convert the files.

It is a good phone and it will definately over shine the I-phone when it comes to the UK market as it has improved on the previous two..
[Touch HD General] Vince:
Hi Beards,

The link for Wiki Super doesn't works and I didn't found the good one.

Is there something wrong ?

Vince
[Touch HD General] Beards:
I just tried it again Vince and it worked fine for me.

Try this instead.... In Google, type:- wiki SUPER

The top result should also be the wiki page.

Beards :)
[Touch HD General] leon_id:
TCPMP 0.72RC2 had AC3 plugin, i doubt that CorePlayer doesn't have it
[Touch HD General] BANE:
I know MPEG4 aac audio support was removed in tcpmp v 0.72rc1 and I used to be able to listen to this audio in past versions.

perhaps it's something similar to this?
[Touch HD General] danum:
Two questions.

1. Is there any way to play .flv files downloaded from Youtube on the HD? I currently convert to DivX for my Artemis but audio sync is sometimes a problem.

2. RE the question on page 25, has anyone used the HD as a bluetooth modem to tether a laptop?

Appreciate any info.

BTW The Touch HD is back up on the Orange UK site
[Touch HD General] Nara-e-Mastana:
^ you mean *.flv files....right?
[Touch HD General] danum:
Thanks, damn this keyboard.
[Touch HD General] fallenczar:
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?t=155.msg693
[Touch HD General] fallenczar:
i personally prefer AVIDemux or MediaCoder

just open the file in any of these, in video choose copy stream, in audio choose MP3 and if it gives an option - 2 channels, bitrate is set to 128 or 96
[Touch HD General] atomikpt:
here is a portuguese review that I made for a website:

http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=25343

if you're very interested, you can use google or babelfish to translate it! :D
[Touch HD General] leon_id:
hm.. ok, didn't know about legal issues

but CorePlayer can be installed side-by-side with TCPMP :)
[Touch HD General] SomethingWicked:
But they don't run on the HD I've seen in the compatible apps thread... :(
[Touch HD General] eltonsl:
not bad

NOT BAD AT ALL !!!

Just got my HD tonight in US using ATT EDGE speeds and i can say... not bad at all... Will keep the cruise but HD is my #1 phone untill theyy come out with a HD US version...

Can't wait to see what the xda experts here are going to cook for this babe...:D

There... my 2 cents
[Touch HD General] AFW:
SPB Applications

Got my Touch HD yesterday. 16GB microSD card installed. Loaded and tried the following SPB apps:

Spb Mobile Shell V2.1.2 Build 3435

* Installed without error onto internal storage

* None of the drop-down menus drop down, so you have to manualy scroll through the drop-down options with up/down cursor key.

* Runs fine natively (TF3D disabled) and Spb Menu is fine under TF3D

> Apart from drop-down menu problen, all seems to work fine

Spb Time V2.2.2. Build 1312

* Installed without error onto internal storage

* All drop-down boxes work correctly

> Works fine without issue or problem

Spb Backup V2.0.1 Build 3092

* Installs fine

* Drop-down boxes in setup/options do not drop down, so cursor control is necessary

* When making a Full Backup, the task completes with errors. The error log reports that it was not able to back up any of the *.bpsd files in \Windows\BPSD ("Unable to read file...")

* I have not tried a restore as I don't want to risk messing things up at this stage (took ages to set up and configure all my apps)

> No peace of mind that backups work or that restores will be complete, but restore not tested

Spb Phone Suite V1.3.0 Build 1559

* Installs fine onto internal storage

* Drop-down menus work correctly

* Profiles and options work correctly, as do drop-down menus

> Works properly

Spb GPRS Monitor V2.5.1 Build 225

* Installs without error

* Drop-down menus don't drop down, so manual cursor selection is necessary. I could eventually select my data bundle (Vodacom MyMeg 500) from the defined list and it updated the tariff schedule correctly

> Runs and monitors GPRS activity, reports seem to be accurate

Spb Pocket Plus V4.0.2 Build 6227

* Installs fine to main storage

* I enabled only the following features: Close Button, Taskbar Battery Indicator, File Explorer add-ons, File Open/Save Dialog.

* Again, when configuring some of the features, the drop-down menus do not drop down, so these have to be selected manally using cursor keys. However, the features such as file encryption/decryption, X close/minimise customisation options, battery indicators, ZIP support, etc all work correctly.

> Works OK
[Touch HD General] Beards:
Could you please add your items to the topic ' Programs/Utilites & Games ~ working on the Touch HD' mentioned here:-

http://xdaforums.com/editpost.php?do=updatepost&p=2867306

I can then add them to the list.

Thanks.

Beards
[Touch HD General] Beards:
Could you please add your items to the topic ' Programs/Utilites & Games ~ working on the Touch HD' mentioned here:-

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=442663

I can then add them to the list.

Thanks.

Beards
[Touch HD General] P996:
Here are my initial thoughts about the HD Touch(I had the Diamond Touch before and I also have several other phones like iPhone 3G, Nokia E90, etc.):

PROS

1. very good build quality, this phone does NOT look cheap

2. display is high resolution, very nice

3. phone rings pretty loud(don't know why some people complaint about the ringer loudness) using Generic Ring Tone 1

4. audio quality (phone) is good

5. phone reception (signal level) seems to be pretty good out of the box

6. enough memory to install all applications

7. TouchFlo looks stunning(like on the Touch Diamond) and seems to be refined, homescreen now holds more calendar/tasks information

CONS

1. no iPhone "killer", touch usage still miles away from being "smooth"

2. TouchFlo doesn't seem to work better or worse than on my Touch Diamond, seems to be the same, just slightly different because of the bigger display and needs a firmer touch to respond well, shows lag in certain situations

3. graphics power WORLDS behind the iPhone, there is for example no smooth scrolling/zooming when surfing the internet with Opera

4. using the Media Player, video performance is pretty bad, same as the video performance on the Touch Diamond(haven't tried CorePlayer yet)

5. built-in 5MP camera is horrible, pretty much useless for snapshots, quality only halfway decent when there is enough ambient light and the object you want to take a picture of doesn't move

6. supplied 8GB micro-SDHC card is a class 2 card

7. display only usable in direct sunlight at maximum brightness setting and still very difficult to read when the sun is bright, shining directly onto the screen(iPhone 3G has a perfect sun-readable display, so does the Nokia E90 for example).

8. supplied carrying pouch is a joke, where are the times when HTC supplied a belt holster with their units?

9. as soon as you get past TouchFlo, you need to use the stylus to be real happy

Personal conclusion after a couple of days: not very happy with it, the Touch HD seems to be "just" a Touch Diamond with a bigger display and a little bit more memory.

The Touch HD is definetely NOT an iPhone killer regarding touch usage and video quality, sorry to say that.

I'm really waiting for some homecooked ROM versions to see what this baby is capable of but my hopes aren't too high that the Touch HD is going to be more than the usual HTC stuff with a bigger display.

If you already have an iPhone 3G and you don't need Windows Mobile for whatever reason, save your money and forget about the Touch HD. I would even say that since the video performance doesn't seem to be improved, even upgrading from a Touch Diamond or Pro wouldn't make you much happier with the exception of the fabulous display resolution.

Still: the display is not as "vivid" and bright as the iPhone 3G display and you barely can see a difference between the resolutions(HD Touch has double the resolution).

I have to say that I expected more from the Touch HD and HTC disappointed me (again).

Hopefully some of the future homecooked ROMs will give me something I can be happy with the Touch HD, I'm willing to wait.
[Touch HD General] amireshan:
I will exactly agree with you as well ;)
[Touch HD General] clandestino_usr:
I got my Touch HD yesterday, and after playing with it for about 1 day, here's what I found:

Pros:

Build quality is great. I've had the Diamond and the Touch Pro previously, and there's a whole world of difference between the two devices. The last HTC device that had this quality was my Trinity (except for the paint peeling, but that was for everybody I guess)

Not having a DPad is disturbing at first, but you rapidly get used to it

The screen is incredible! Its size makes it ideal for peoples with fat fingers like me ;-)

The screen sensitivity is fine, however I tweaked it a bit using AdvancedConfig 3.3

The volume level is way above the Diamond's and the Touch Pro's

Looks like the GPS does not lag anymore. I installed the diamond's Tomtom 7 and took a test drive through Brussels as well as the highway from Brussels to Antwerp (and back), and the device never showed more than 2-3 meters differences from my actual position. I got a first fix in 30 seconds, and it picked up the signal in 1-2 seconds when coming out of a tunnel. So far, a great improvement.

The built-in haptic feedback is great, would love to see it expanded to the whole device, not just TF3D and Opera

TF3D is much much more smoother and quicker compared to Diamond & Touch Pro, even with lots of customizations. Not only it loads faster, but it's now really usable. And there's a built-in setting to enable, disable and re-order tabs (except "Programs" and "Settings", which can be re-ordered but not disabled)

Battery life seems fair, with a standard 1350 mA battery. As I said, it ran continuously for about a day, picking calls, making calls, surfing (with EDGE, not 3G), using Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, navigating with built-in GPS... And it still shows up 50% charge

Cons:

The provided "case" is more a joke than a case :D

No screen protector was bundled with the device, while there were some packed with the Diamond and the Touch Pro

The on-screen keyboard is fine, and the larger resolution makes it definitely more usable, but it still lacks the ergonomics of an iPhone keyboard, or the richness of PocketCM Keyboard. I can't wait to see the latter adapted to the HD, that'll be a killer!

After first customization, there's less free memory available compared to the Touch Pro, which has the same amount of it (512MB ROM / 288MB RAM). On the Touch Pro, you have ~90MB used by the default setup, while the HD uses ~140MB. For what exactly? I guess TF3D eats more on the HD, but I'm not sure

Hope that helps all those considering going for the HD. It might not be the iPhone-killer everyone has been expecting, but it's definitely one of the best handheld devices I had in my hands for a long time.

So logically, I should sell my Touch Pro soon, if anybody in the Brussels region is interested ;)
[Touch HD General] Boinng:
Silly.

Too low? Too low for what exactly? Trust me, if you'd used one, you wouldn't begin to question the resolution. You're looking at numbers on a page, but in reality the iPhone's screen and video/graphics is really everything you need on a mobile device.

Navigation software, granted, that's lacking on the iPhone at the moment. For everything else there's now a wealth of great quality software in the Appstore, much of it free, and the rest all very reasonably priced (seriously, you'd be amazed at what 59p can buy you).

Can you give an example of a situation where anyone would even notice that? I don't know if what you say is true or not, but I've certainly never found myself thinking "dang, I wish my iPhone had HSUPA support". Cut and paste yes, TomTom certainly, but HSUPA?

Quite a lot of internal memory mind. 8GB goes a long way, let alone 16GB if you need it.

Not really true - there's a big community of jailbreakers pumping out hacked firmware and any number of ways to customise your iPhone, improve features, and generally do all the things Apple don't like. Then on top of that there's all the bona-fide development going on in the Appstore - it's got really massive support, and Apple are starting to lighten up on what they can do too, dropping the NDA and allowing a lot of new stuff through.
[Touch HD General] Eitum:
PLS use PM for such things. This is going far OFF TOPIC!!! :mad:
[Touch HD General] kersh:
edit .
[Touch HD General] Super Chimp:
Having owned a first generation iphone for about six months I can tell you I am not going down that route again any time soon. Yes the TS is good as is the general OS. But their are way too many limitations and functions missing, let's not even mention the lousy camera or lack of video recording.
[Touch HD General] make money:
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[Touch HD General] nailouia@:
Can the HD Touch 'RECORD' from the built-in FM Radio?

Hi all,

1) Can the HD Touch 'RECORD' from the built-in FM Radio?

2) Do you need the headset plugged-in to listen to the FM Radio?

(i.e. can you play the Radio through the Load Speaker?)

thanks
[Touch HD General] shambolic:
Hi, really considering getting the touch hd on contract in the UK (anyone know the best deal?) Thing that concerns me is what I am reading about needing a special version of TomTom, will it not run the standard Tomtom, if so why is this, the screen size?
[Touch HD General] shambolic:
oops just saw the other thread :cool::cool:
[Touch HD General] leylek:
Htc Hd

intending to buy the htc hd but want to be sure it will playback divx video files flawlessly?
[Touch HD General] Pilsor:
Wow, what a huge tread to read.

Okay, have read this massive review.

On this moment I still own a 6 month old iPhone 2G (8Gb) ... I toucht this was the solution for all in one : phone+agenda+pocketpc+mp3+wifi ... zzzzz...

Before I use a HX4700 (vga screen superb) + Nokia 6680.

btw, HX4700 with WM6.1 , thanks for ROM cooking :) , and still alive.

But I'm not quit complete satisfied with my iPhone.

Every month a new FW , Quickpwnge etc ... not always happy , a lot of reinstalls (Cydia , apps etc.)

Screen looks for me to small (comparable with HX4700).

The lack of good software (ok for ewallet) , but still waiting for a good agenda like pocket informant (6 monts now) , the missing of pocketbreeze etc ...

So I'm very instrested in these kinds of reviews .(comparing the HD with the iPhone ... no mention of the use of "iphonekiller" , not intrested in that sentece :D)

If I can get my price, I'll sell the iPhone and shall go back to the real stuff according to pocketpc , in combination , a smartphone like the HTC Touch HD. (iPhone is easy to use , but has a lot of "trash in the application store".)

If someone has more pros for the HD ?

Btw, can the HD be used for MMS with pictures taken from the front camera? this can't be done by the iphone : has NO front cam & LOL, NO original MMS app. , I had to buy 3th party swirlymms.

Also this (maybe stupid?) question, does HD Google maps works "offline" with the internal gps chip or do we need 3G connection (like iPhone) ?

Greetz,

Philis
[Touch HD General] BelgianAtheist:
1. apparently not, I tried with Resco Recorder demo and it does not.

2. yes (need to have a headset plugged in) and yes (you can play through the speaker)
[Touch HD General] Uderzo:
I'm using CorePlayer. Works like a charm :)