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[General Questions and Answers] helloavo:
I have got the firmware for 1.3.5.1.

I have added it to the GitHub repository here, under releases.

(BTW anyone can upload to this repo, please add anything that might be of use to other users)

Backstory about this:

A user called Jerome2023 joined XDA and posted in this thread that he had the firmware and would share it for $30 transfer via PayPal, obviously this screams of scam.

The only evidence was a screenshot of a zip file (not even the files inside).

When I asked for more info or photos as proof it was legit (Like the ones I have included below), he refused claiming he was insulted by my lack of trust... on the internet...

He was then banned from the forum by admins.

He claimed the total cost to get the updater was $150 from a local camera store, I already know of 2 other people who have sent him $30 so if it really did cost $150 then at least he has made $90 back.

Honestly I don't know why he want about it in this way, I am sure everyone here would have got together the reimburse him for the cost and effort he went to get it.

I do not want anyone to be out of pocket for finding the firmware, especially since that firmware should have been made available for free by Light, but I suspect he was trying to make some money out of it.

I have heard that he did genuinely wanted to help people but sending the money was a 'trust' exercise.
[General Questions and Answers] Phoenix21289:
Thank you soooo much, you did a favor to all of us with the backup copy of lumen, and now with the update files that everyone was searching for, I'm still waiting for my camera to test the firmware

Thanks for all the efforts

And that guy, something was not right about him, felt it was a scam and that feeling was confirmed when I didn't find his replies anymore in the thread
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Thank you so much for making the firmware update available. I have loaded it on my camera, which was a bit scary since the camera reboots several times during the process, but the update process completed after about 15 minutes or so, and then after testing to see if it would still take pictures, and video now, it seems to be fine. I have uploaded a photo and a short video to my computer without issue and they seem fine. You definitely get a resounding thumbs up!! Oh, and so many more features!
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Having updated my L16 to 1.3.5.1, I learned, through the process that I can actually access the cameras file system. As I was looking around, I noticed that the Trash folder contains all the images I have taken since first turning the camera on. I normally take some shots and after uploading them I delete them using the camera's image viewer interface. My logic is that I like to have a clean camera to take pictures on. But apparently the L16 isn't actually deleting the photos I told it to delete. It is just shuffling them to the Trash.

Now, I understand that this is probably not a problem, and the L16 will probably delete them permanently when storage starts to fill up, or after some period of time, but I would actually like to really delete the images in the camera after uploading them.

Does anyone know how to empty the trash on an L16?
[General Questions and Answers] ZealousOne:
Helloavo, you are a legend! Thank you so much for your continued work and thank you for sharing your findings!
[General Questions and Answers] QXDA_Paddler:
@helloavo AMAZING! Thank you so much! I never thought this day would come!
[General Questions and Answers] matthew___h:
Thanks for the update file! It appears to soft brick the camera when it is rooted, most likely because the system files have been messed with. I was able to recover back to stock using @danydro's dump (I misplaced my backups) and then the update worked normally.
[General Questions and Answers] helloavo:
I will add this note about removing Root before starting the upgrade to the ReadMe on the Repo page to help others.

Out of interest, and because I also want to add this to the Repo, what method did you use for getting Root?

Also, could you share the dump you have and how to apply it? Again great for the repo for anyone who needs to recover their Camera :)
[General Questions and Answers] ayanami00:
In gallery I hit icon top left corner, select deleted folder and hit the remove all on bottom center of screen. Does that not remove everything permanently?
[General Questions and Answers] matthew___h:
I used Magisk to get root by modifying boot.img

I used this dump to recover

The camera was stuck in stock recovery, but with a computer connected "reboot to bootloader" loaded fastboot

fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

I didn't check if the update re-locks the bootloader, but if it says something about not allowing flashing run

fastboot oem devlock off
fastboot reboot bootloader

and try again
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
I believe the simple answer is no the L16 does not actually delete the photos you delete while using the photo viewer. Here is a screen shot of my cameras storage with the USB settings set to "File transfer" instead of the default "Photo transfer (PTP)". Notice the last file listed in Trash is L16_00279.lri, which is a shot I took a couple of minutes earlier and deleted through the camera viewer interface. If I were to scroll up in that window, the Trash appears to contain every photo I have taken back to L16_0001.lri . That is 455 files of which about half .lri and half .jpg. If I manually delete all the files in the Trash using Windows Explorer while the camera is set to "File transfer", then it does permanently delete all the files from the Trash and make the space available to the camera again.
[General Questions and Answers] HowardStark:
Thank you so very much for the firmware! I updated my cameras and love the new features!

Would you mind telling us where you eventually got the firmware from? I have personally searched for this for a very long time and couldn't find anything. I'd love to learn about how you found it!

Additionally, a great way to sideload apps onto the camera would be Aurora Store, which is a FOSS client for the Google Play Store. No sign-in needed, you can download and install any app directly from Play Store via Aurora Store client. No root needed either.
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
After HowardStark suggested loading a FOSS store on the L16, I found I was able to load F-Droid on my L16 without difficulty. I typed the download link; "https://f-droid.org/F-Droid.apk" into the built in browser, and after giving the browser permissions to download the file, I was also able to open the apk with the browser and install, after giving additionial permissions. Then after waiting for the repository to update, I searched and found File manager and was able to install it. On running FIle Manager, I was able to select and delete all the files in the Trash to clean out the L16 in preparation for further photography.
[General Questions and Answers] helloavo:
The backstory is in the post you replied to, if you meant how he got the software, I believe he is a photographer from China and managed to purchase the firmware from a local camera shop.
[General Questions and Answers] poog:
Thanks helloavo for sharing the firmware!!!!!

Now that there is video recording is enabled , I wonder if a third party video recording app would work with optical zoom features enabled. It would be interesting to see what the max bitrate we can get with 1080p recording like with . Also it would be interesting to see of the media_profiles.xml when rooted, could be edited to maybe enable 4k recording in some capacity if the hardware/drivers support it.

Has anyone installed Camera2 API Probe apk just to see what it returns?
[General Questions and Answers] QXDA_Paddler:
Just updated my L16, works perfectly! Thank you @helloavo !

I did not need to remove root for it to work, I'm not sure if I even had root to begin with - my camera was fresh out of the box. I'm not a very technical person, but this was an easy update, so glad it worked out!

I recorded the process of updating my camera in case anybody would rather see a video, than read the simple instructions.
[General Questions and Answers] helloavo:
Glad it worked for you! If it was fresh out of the box you would not have Root.

Thanks for making the video, happy if I link it in the repo? would defiantly help other users out.
[General Questions and Answers] helloavo:
No worries.

I am also very interested in getting other other camera apps on the L16, or more likely, building a custom one that would just give us the .RAW files form each camera module that we could then combine ourselves.

Would defiantly open up the uses for the L16 but I could not find many apps that would install on such an old version of Android

I have experience coding but not familiar with Android so wanted to ask the more experienced users here,

would it be possible to build the latest version of Android for the L16?

Or would it need custom drivers for the cameras? My hope is they are presented individually to the OS but can't find much information on that.
[General Questions and Answers] QXDA_Paddler:
Yes, please feel free to post it on the repo.
[General Questions and Answers] yota1979:
Thank you to @helloavo and @QXDA_Paddler for the video ( QXDA can you find for me a Light L16 Camera at the same price?? :D:D:D).

I'm live in Italy and I following the project of the light L16 camera for a portable camera where I am on travel with a good lens and good for landscape photo (better than the iphone I hope)

I ask to who have the Light camera and if it's okey to use on 2023 for photo on travel or for now is too obsolete for use as a principal portable camera instead the iphone
[General Questions and Answers] Mr_Zeeb:
Has anyone had any problems after upgrading to the new firmware? I am hesitant to update mine because I don't want any problems to occur.

Also, since I don't care about the video aspect of the update, is it even worth it for me to upgrade the firmware? Is the picture quality really any better?
[General Questions and Answers] poog:
Have you tried the freeware camera app "Open Camera" ? Open Camera is the most popular 3rd party camera for Android, ever. It dates back to 2015 and all of the APKs are available here.

Older versions of Open Camera (Android) | Uptodown

Download older versions of Open Camera for Android. All of the older versions of Open Camera have no viruses and are totally free on Uptodown.

open-camera.en.uptodown.com

This app supports RAW, that is if 1) the device developers allowed it to be enabled for 3rd party apps, and 2) If 'camera2api' is enabled it the settings of the app. If it installs and runs and can shoot at least jpegs,, then the next step would be to enable Camera2api in the settings. next would be to set camera image file formats. If Jpeg and png are the only options... camera2api is not enabled properly, and will require root and manually enabling camera2api by running a simple root-based app, or other means.

I suspect at least one of the main problems would be the 3rd party apps, not having proper access to all lenses. It it does maybe just one lens, like the wide angle. 28mm lens. If 4k video was possible with just that lens and with a good bitrate, that would be cool.
[General Questions and Answers] Mr_Zeeb:
I want to update my camera, and everyone keeps talking about Root. Where do I find this in my camera to delete it so that I don't have the brick issue?
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Root simply refers to making changes to your camera so that you have access to everything, not just the parts that the manufacturer wanted to have access to. If you haven't made any changes to your camera yet, then you don't have to worry about Root.

To upgrade your camera to the latest version you need to follow helloavo's instructions, which are relatively simple. I copied part of his post below for your reference. The word "here" below is a link to where you can get the instructions and the latest firmware to load onto your camera. I was able to upgrade my camera using his directions and I am very happy with the result. If you don't feel comfortable following the instructions, then it would be best if you find a knowledgeable friend to help you.

Good luck, Tom

helloavo said:

I have got the firmware for 1.3.5.1.

I have added it to the GitHub repository here, under releases.

(BTW anyone can upload to this repo, please add anything that might be of use to other users)
[General Questions and Answers] Mr_Zeeb:
Thank you for this info. Question though. I got my camera about a month ago, and have taken photos on it, and offloaded them onto my computer. Is this considered a change? Other than that, I am still on the software version that shipped with the camera, and haven’t altered anything about the camera.
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
No,, taking pictures with the L16 is not an issue. From what I could tell, this update is done just like it would have been done over the air originally, except in this case, you follow steps to get the update on your camera, and run the update from there directly.

I do understand your concerns though. There is risk associated with updating the firmware, just like when you update your phone, there is always a chance that your phone will become a brick in the process. The difference here is that if you brick your phone, you can take it in and get it fixed, but here,, if you brick your camera, there is no-one to take it to since the company is out of business. So, it is your choice. Keep the firmware you have, or take the risk and try to update it.

From your questions I can tell you aren't very technical, so it will be lower risk for you if you take your camera to a friend that is, and have them do the update. Just don't blame them if they fail, because there is always risk, all we can do is minimize it not eliminate it.

Alternatively you could just search for an L16 that someone has already updated, and buy it with some sort of guarantee that it is working. That is definitely lower risk, just higher cost.

Your choice, Tom

At least the update is not from Microsoft!
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
The Post from Helloavo below contains a link to the latest firmware, unfortunately it sounds like someone loaded a different version of Android on your camera. Whether you can successfully update back to the correct firmware or not is beyond me. Sorry.
[General Questions and Answers] james.blackledge@charter.:
Apologies if I am missing something obvious; I'm very new here. But when I follow your link I see lots of stuff for the Lumen software but nothing for the firmware update. And I can't seem to find anything labeld "releases."
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Hope this helps.
[General Questions and Answers] james.blackledge@charter.:
Geez. Thanks so much. I'm going to go change my name now.
[General Questions and Answers] elgreee*:
hi, I am new in this i saw thisl ink with this firmware update

any one try this one ? https://github.com/helloavo/Light-L16-Archive/tags

with all that steps put in the root bla bla bla only what i did't undestand.

why said to remove the root ? before to update can causa brik . :S i m follow ur update you are awesome guys. i want to update my l16 but is any big difference? between updates ?
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
I found this to be a worthwhile update, and it did add several new features, like video, and some manual shooting features.
[General Questions and Answers] elgreee*:
is any specific way for a diferent firware or applied to all firmware ? for now i used my camera only pictures i really wan to shoot in log exposures video idk is ok pero a really what to go safe i dont have to much $ to brick my camera and buy other .

with lumen and down to a raw work great the camera. one picture hat shot wih this camera
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
elgree, you are right to be concerned. I had the same concern before I installed this firmware update in my camera. It is definitely possible that it could brick your camera when you update it. If you are reasonably happy with the operation of your camera, then it is much safer to just use it with the firmware that it already has.

***To be perfectly clear, this new firmware does not improve the image quality as far as I know or have seen.***

By the way, I think the photo you posted is very beautiful. Is the fellow in your shot a friend of yours? Keep up the great shooting!
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Hi James, there is no need to feel bad, it took me a lot of looking to find that link too. Perhaps you are like me, a member of the group that sees all the minutia, but misses the big picture sometimes because it is too obvious.

I just say "Oh!, how about that!" and move on.

Have a great day!
[General Questions and Answers] QXDA_Paddler:
This might be a longshot, but does anyone know how to get the RAW files out of the L16 that contain the depth information?

I'll probably do some digging through the directory to try and find them, but I figured I'd ask first to save me the trouble if anyone else has already navigated to them.
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Paddler, as you will see when you download your images from the L16, the raw file is the .lri file. A parallel file the .lris file holds processing information I believe, and may also hold depth information. To my knowledge, there is very little information at present about the internals of the raw file, and so we have to use the Lumen (Beta) desktop software to convert the .lri files into .dng files for processing in programs like Lightroom.

The Lumen software isn't bad, for relatively simple editing like cropping, f-stop adjustment, along with color and intensity correction, and it does allow you to create a jpg output file of low, medium or high resolution, so for some jobs it is sufficient. The biggest limitation of the Lumen software is that it does not run on the most recent versions of the Mac OS. Personally, I had to buy a small Windows 11 PC just to use for processing my images. Still not a bad investment considering the L16 was about $170 when I purchased it.

If you manage to learn anything about the internals of the lri and .lris files, we would certainly love to ehar about it.
[General Questions and Answers] KJSOARES2:
Hi, I keep getting stuck on loading into the bootloader. I can get into recovery mode, and boot normally, but every time I adb reboot bootloader is doesn't seem to work. I even tried booting into bootloader from the recovery menu and nothing. the fastboot command is just sitting there < waiting for any device >. idk where to go from here. Any help would be appreciated. I'm gonna go over all the commands from the guide to see if anything makes a difference.
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Have you just tried copying the update onto the camera and running it from there directly? That is what I did, and it upgraded just fine.
[General Questions and Answers] AidanAeternum:
I picked up a unit with the final firmware version, but have zero knowledge how to extract, anyone have instructions i can follow to get everyone the firmware?
[General Questions and Answers] Sunla:
What's your final FW version? Was there one after LFC-1351-0-00WW-A01?

I think you'd need root before you can extract that.

I've been an XDA lurker for years, and this thread I found kind of recently, it's interesting that it's been steadily active for awhile now. I actually came here because I got myself an L16, and you all helped me get the update file! Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

I don't know what good this does for anyone, but I feel like android app devs might be interested to look at this. I extracted the APK files for some unique apps found in the L16. One appears to be camera motor control, another is the camera app itself, the gallery app, and the editor app.

I feel like this camera has insane untapped potential.

I went ahead and put those app files, their extractions, as well as another re-upload of the firmware here on my GDrive folder, anyone can have a look and download the files.

I hope it can be of help to even just one person, and I feel like if the right people made it their passion project, they could be the ones to unlock the incredible potential of the L16.
[General Questions and Answers] Ottoleox:
Update tutorial en minute 3:45 easy, no complicated and all files in the video description
[General Questions and Answers] win32forth:
Your link is broken, it looks like it contains some sort of command line...
[Honor 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _.androider._:
Hello! I have honor 7 (PLK-L01). I tried to install an older version of the firmware, but without success. It got to the point where everything was installed and the phone had to be restarted, but it didn't turn on anymore. Now I try to turn it on, hold the power button, the phone vibrates once and that's it. neither turns on nor anything! I will be happy if you help me!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wisam_wa1:
i need how can i unlock sim free asus p750

any prog work

plz help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wisam_wa1:
no body can help me

just i need to know if possible unlock free or via code
[General Questions and Answers] denisgottardello:
Hi, I'm writing an app to manage the employee attendances. To tap a badge on the nfc reader takes 3 - 4 seconds. Is there a way to speed up the nfc reader?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Texan1:
Be interested to see what type of benchmark results people are getting on their 6 Pro.

I know benchmarks aren't the be all and end all of how "good" a phone is, but they at least provide some indication and comparison on performance.

I've been using Antutu (latest 9.2.9) and on both stock and custom kernels, can't seem to crack anywhere near the average result for our device. Result attached is on Android 12L Beta 3 and Kirisakura 12L kernel.

Would love to see some comparisons and discussion...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] bearclaw92:
View attachment 5538439

Android 12L with Despair Kernel
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Doug8796:
On the "doomed" December update
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Texan1:
Stock or custom kernel?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] enerGy:
On the Kirisakura A12L (Test) version which is the same as public he released anyway I guess. Benches can be so so random but not bad all the same ;)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Doug8796:
Nice - and no - I am on stock (simlock/bootloader locked)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Texan1:
Nice scores, something definitely not right with my set up then :(

...actually, I get that 'your device is rooted which may lead to inaccurate scores.." message after benchmarking, yet I've used Magisk to hide root from Antutu, wonder if that is cuasing an issue...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] enerGy:
Yea I thought something wasn't right on yours. I could test again and chances are it would be a lot lower thus why I always see benches as pretty useless and random lol but don't think it would be as low as yours mate
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] enerGy:
I didn't hide it from magisk. I never use bench apps this was just a random one off to see what the difference was with yours as it seemed real low
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Texan1:
Despair 12L kernel this time, still in the 500k scores, something definitely not right :mad:
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] enerGy:
Just tried again to make sure it wasn't a fluke bud
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Texan1:
687k now, same kernel and hid all instances of Antutu in Magisk (realised not all had been hidden) but it still picked up the phone has been rooted anyway.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] murphyjasonc:
Mine isn't quite as good as yours but it's up there. View attachment 5538689
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] enerGy:
What modules you use if any mate?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Texan1:
Only safetynet and the AK3 module that the kernel installs.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] enerGy:
Yea this is all I have also. Your battery charging while doing it?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
782775.

Not sure where this result puts me, but it was #13 overall?

Feb factory image

Kirisakura 1.7.0

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