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[G1 General] syrusfrost:
erm, is that how aGPS works on the G1? That's stupid. I was under the impression that it worked like normal aGPS... I.E. -

Phone: Where am I?

Tower: You are @ 33.12345/32.12345 accuracy 2000 meters

Tower: GPS sattelites G51, T85, R14 are 3 strongest

Phone: Fed GPS data to GPS radio, warm start for 10 sec lock as opposed to over a minute for a cold start lock.

And I am also under the impression that alot of the 3G hardware wasn't configured with the appropriate data (position with est of accuracy based on closest towers and affinity and the 3 strongest GPS signals for that area). The issue was noticed and any new hardware should be fine. Problems will be resolved as the expansion portion of the project begins and all of the areas are revisited.

Where did you get your info nickybee?
[G1 General] nickybee:
yes that was turned on on my G1 of course.

and no it still doesn't work.

nick
[G1 General] nickybee:
hey syrus - I didn't mean aGPS - I was just referring to the (a) part of the GPS.

i.e. there is no Phone saying "Where am I"

it goes

GMaps application: "What's my cell id?"

Phone: "It's ABC1"

GMaps application: "Hey Google dbase - where's cellid ABC1"

Google: "ABC1 is at 33.12345/32.12345 accuracy 2000 meters"

As to where I get my information from it's out of my ass

;)

I accept that I could be totally wrong - but I assume that google does not go to the carriers for cellid information - it just drives around with the mobile vans and captures GPS data for Wifi and cellid simultaneously. Since the towers are quite new - their data has not been captured yet

Nick
[G1 General] Mikey:
i never used the built in gpa, so far.

I use my bluetooth keychain gps. had it from my old excalibur.

works great
[G1 General] syrusfrost:
Erm, you know now that I look at it Google is implementing SOMETHING new, I don't know how far they are taking it. Traditional aGPS has been around for a long time now, Google was never involved. I believe that at this point, with this version of Android things are still working the way they always have.

But! Did you notice the setting also indicates that the phone can find your location by wifi stations? I BET google receiving GPS data from users while they are connected to WIFI networks.

And then there's things like this below... ahh

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071116-its-official-google-planning-700mhz-bid.html

Who knows, but I think as far as cell tower based aGPS is concerned android sticks with the basics. It's one data packet sent to the tower, and one back, rather than setting up a connection making a database query and receiving a reply.

They probably envisioned something like...

Phone: Where am I?

Tower: Shiii I dunno where you aaat?

Phone: Grrr, Google! I am connected to wifi access point "ATT" with SSID:12345678945 Where am I?

Google: Looks like syrusfrost was there last week, he was at 32.12345/33.12345 and he used GPS satellites.....

I really don't know how google is doing the Wifi geolocation, they may be parsing some of the wardriving databases out there for the major metro areas, hell when you drive with maps and wifi on you may be wardriving for google, wouldn't that be interesting...
[G1 General] syrusfrost:
Hows the battery life?
[Introductions] AyselEP:
so I want a lot, I want to change my cellphone to a custom rom + root and it works and I can reinstall my father's work office PC and laptop and I'm increasingly curious about technology. since I was a kid when I was 6 years old ( I still remember it ) I liked to play on my dad's laptop and it was still Windows 7 , especially Moto GP 03 urt my favorite game at that time ( currently the game is still available even though the crack version :) O_O ) , I'm waiting my dad came home from work just to play games (I'm so glad my dad came home) , when I was 9 years old I was brave enough to install windows 7 + drivers to run my laptop perfectly and that's why I got the dinner I liked. Until now I'm 13 years old still don't know much about technology but I will try to find out.

end

(maybe there is an error in typing + translation so I don't know English very well)

maybe a child who likes technology is very rare at a very young age like me.
[Introductions] Spillunke:
okay... and whats youre question now? Whats the problem or where do you need help?
[Introductions] AyselEP:
I live in Indonesia. I don't know what it's like in other countries like America, England, Germany or all cities and their circumstances, yes I hope I can work at Microsoft because my intelligence can install Windows Vista, XP, 95, 7, 8, 8.1,10
[Introductions] Oswald Boelcke:
This is the introduction forum i.e. we don't expect questions or descriptions of problems.

Regards

Oswald Boelcke
[Introductions] AyselEP:
nothing, but to introduce myself
[Introductions] Spillunke:
Oh damn, is missed to check the subforum i'm in, sorry!

Then welcome and have fun! 🎉
[General Questions and Answers] AdelSalah:
I need The official ROM for CDY-NX9B C185 , anyone have it?

Thanks,,
[OnePlus 9R] narendramali696:
Hello I need to Downgrade my OnePlus 9R to Oxygen OS 11.2.1.1 please can Any One Help. Or also It will Downgrade with pc Or it can Downgrade with Phone by Local Directory in system update of one plus Please help
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] termdj:
Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] dezborders:
If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra

For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
S22 ultra doesn't seem like a huge upgrade over the S21U. If an integrated S-Pen is an absolute must-have for you, then by all means get the new phone. But other than that, I don't see a compelling reason to buy one. The S21 Ultra is still an amazing phone even after a year. And honestly speaking, the design is so iconic, I would choose this over the S22U design anyday (based on all the leaks). But that is a highly subjective matter, so it's upto the buyer. If you can afford it and justify it, go for it. Life is short, do the things you enjoy 😉
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] mzsquared:
Not sure if it's worth but trying to beat the boredom of "life in the time of Covid" I went ahead with the reservation, aiming for the 'ultra'.

Hey, it's not a marriage - I can still send it back if I don't fall in love with it on the first sight.:D
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] termdj:
I know the specs aren't that much better then the S21 ultra, but the s range has always been way cheaper in south africa then the note, so I would like to have the s pen, but it all depends on the price on contract
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] varcor:
No, I won't be upgrading. First off there are very few improvements, nothing is innovative. Secondly there have been numerous problems in producing the Exynos/AMD SoC. Thirdly it will ship with Android 12 which to date is still plagued with numerous bugs. The S21 works much better on Android 11.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] MontrelExpo67:
it happens to almost all phones.

i still own s10 plus, works perfectly

I also get the s21 ultra

tempteing to get s-pen th0
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] torontocomfortzone:
Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] termdj:
In south africa there is no trade in deals... Just the normal carrier deals... So, hopefully it won't be too expensive
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] wilky76:
Tbh I don't think it worth upgrading to the S22 Ultra, it's got to the point now where any improvements are only minor even the camera on the S22 Ultra will only be slightly better than the S21 Ultra, plus i wouldn't be surprised once One UI 4.1 hits the S21 Ultra these improvements are brought down from the S22 Ultra.

I've had my S21 Ultra since last July this has been hands down best phone I've ever owned from Samsung, & i've had practically most of the S range & Note's over the years, the only downside to keeping the S21 Ultra really will be waiting slightly longer for updates once the S22 series has launched.

So I'm going to keep enjoying my S21 Ultra until the S23 Ultra next year.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] tfn:
Will see how it goes and what offers and trade ins are available. I have always been an S series user but loved the Spen support on the Ultra. It is a beast and having got the 512gb 16gb ram I could run it another year or so without any hiccups given that I haven't used it to its full pontential due to Covid.

Only thing I am worried with the S22 Ultra is the 45 Fast Charging and the Crammed 5000mah battery which although welcome I am afraid it might have those 'burst into flames' issues samsung had and how the new amd graphics might come with its own issues with Android 12.

No doubt it will have even a more Awesome battery life compared to the S21 Ultra and better Spen support with bluetooth and stuff. I am sure with the New Expert Raw and the Spen Bluetooth functionality they will promote it as a mobile Photographers Dream phone not to mention the ease of editing with the Spen.

Have my options open and will see how it pans out.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] SyCoREAPER:
Wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for SD 8 Gen1. New and unproven soc.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] TheInfiniteAndroid:
For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] termdj:
Thanks for everybody given their input....:)
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] lywyn:
New camera sensor for even more light/detail

New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)

S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous

Best screen on market with even more brightness

And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)

Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] dezborders:
In the USA yes Samsung is ultra generous with trade-in. In UK not so much ...

Outside of US, ebay and FB Marketplace selling prices are much higher than trade in.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] varcor:
"New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available"

Samsung has experienced numerous production issues with the Exynos 2200 SoC. Out of an entire wafer only a few chipsets are functional. Raytracing is misleading since there are currently no apps capable of raytracing integration on smartphones. In Geekbench 5 tests the Exynos/AMD 2200 was out performed not only by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 but the Snapdragon 888 also. There may be a few good reasons to buy an S22 but hoping for a better SoC isn't one of them.

Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888

Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888. The new flagship chipset Samsung lost to all competitors.

www.google.com.mx
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] SyCoREAPER:
It will probably be enough for the lower end ripoff 8GB version IF they do a trade-in
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
Here's how it's going to sound...you would have read all the views here and it's mostly a no to the upgrade. But, this thread was a validation for your already made up mind to go ahead with the S22U. Comrade...don't sweat it...if your heart says goes for it..and you have the means for it...go ahead enjoy! As @enigmaamit said here... life's short..enjoy it to the fullest...Go ahead...take the leap of faith...
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] lywyn:
I am definitely looking forward to the S-Pen being built in. I do a lot of photo editing using my fat fingers so having the pressure-sensitive pen will save me a lot of "undo/redo" time.

The latest "leaked images" show the screen flatter without the curved edges and I like that clean look. I can upgrade for free with my network so I am ready to leap! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] highlightshadow:
This year is make or break for me w/ Samsung ... problem i have is the alternatives don't seem to be stepping up.

Exynos is historically broken and overpriced ... but current reports are wildly conflicting between amazing and horrific again for the Exynos 2200

Xioami MIUI 12.5.8 is a buggy mess (really quite a lot of problems on even newest builds on my Pad5)

OnePlus cameras are pretty meh in practice on my wifes 9 pro even if the OS is nice and clean/stock android.

Sony's Xperia 1II was pretty meh camera wise also in practice and the selfie cam was shockingly bad. Plus quite a lot of apps didn't like the 21:9 ratio
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] varcor:
This phone is going to flop and here's why. Samsung is releasing a Note 22, not an S Series. The last year the Note 20 went head to head with the S20 Ultra, the Note 20 was out sold 5 to 1. We see the S-Pen on Samsung promotional videos but I've never seen someone actually using it. Samsung is bundling the S22 with Android 12 which even now is an unmigated disaster. Very few actual upgrades, S-Pen, 45W charging, very minor camera tweak and some new colors. Their all new Exynos 2200 SoC has been plagued with production issues, only a small amount of chipsets are functional from a complete wafer after production. In Geekbench 5 tests the Exynos 2200 got smoked by not only the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 but also the Snapdragon 888. Samsung is boasting about Raytracing on the Exynos but the fact is there are currently no apps or games that have integrated Raytracing on any smartphone. Mark my words, this turkey is going to BOMB!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] burnxtc:
Can you elaborate on Android 12 sucking? I flashed my s21 Ultra with 12 right when I got it so I haven't experienced 11. Multiple comments in this thread are catching my attention.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] varcor:
Look at the numerous threads from users experiencing problems after updating to Android 12. It's obvious Android 11 is the best OS for the S21. Samsung has released not only Android 12 Beta's but also 4 Final Releases and it's still is plagued with glitches.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] burnxtc:
Well, I just thought I would inquire here since it's applicable to the thread and people here seem to have direct experience with it. I haven't had any problems that I know of and I've debloated the snot out of 12 (removed over 200 processes) but would certainly consider 11 for better performance.

In any case, cruising the threads looking for opinions now.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] highlightshadow:
With you there ... Android 12 on S21 Exynos has been terrible experience ... lot more stalling / sluggishness ... last night my phone needed hard-reboot cos it just became totally unresponsive on home-screen
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
If you haven't experienced the S21U on A11, it's difficult to explain. Just imagine A12 and make everything better, battery life, smoothness, performance, app behaviour, etc.

I'd advise checking it out for yourself (full wipe needed) but if you're on one of the newer builds, with the updated bootloader, unfortunately there's no going back to A11. I consider myself lucky I downgraded from A12 before the bootloader update and disabled the updater.

So far all I've read on this forum about A12 is overwhelming negative feedback about OneUI 4 and slowly dying optimism about 'possible' bug fixes in the future, which has now almost been entirely given up and now everyone's praying for OneUI 4.1 being a magical fix for all that OneUI 4.0 broke.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] varcor:
The Exynos/AMD will be a roll of the dice also, it's been plagued with numerous production issues. Given a choice I'd buy the Snapdragon even though it's still the first run.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] varcor:
The biggest challenge is replacing a device for anything without Android 12. It's become the premmante OS across numerous manufacturers and causing fits everywhere you look.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] burnxtc:
10-4, I'm on build 4 so I'm good. Downgrading on Monday. Thanks dude!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] lywyn:
Yes it will fail because hundreds of people do not like Android 12 or Exynos. But then millions of users who really don't care will buy it and it will be a massive success without their approval or purchase.

I have S21 Ultra on Android 12 with Exynos CPU. No issues, runs smooth and I only restart when I have a firmware update. And I bet most S21 Ultra Exynos users have the same experience as me. In fact, two of my mates bought them under my recommendation and they love their S21 Ultras, weirdly they have never mentioned the downside of the Exynos CPU because they do knot know that it has one or give a damn.

Let's see who's in the S22 forums in the coming months. Either they will be owners or trolls. I look forward to seeing the owners over there when I get mine.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] tim84us:
the short answer is NO!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] OnnoJ:
I will not upgrade. Perfectly happy with my S21U 512Gb with S pen in clear view cover. Bought it new in november, when price was nice. Will use S21U until fall 2023 and then probably buy the S23U...
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] dezborders:
In the UK, Samsung NEVER give more than £550 trade in on anything. Even the base 128GB S21U is still worth £600 on ebay or FB-MP.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] SyCoREAPER:
I saw somewhere the number of $700 USD max. Not sure if that will be true
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Joloxx9:
No and not sure if I stick with samsung next year when my contract finish. I hope oneplus will come back with good software and they improve camera.

I hate exynos and it looks like it will not change.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
OnePlus is practically dead. Look at their 10 Pro. Even the OnePlus 1 generated more interest. It's basically Oppo now and their identity is pretty murky right now. Extrapolating the trajectory they've been on since the merger was announced, it just looks like a steep dive off the cliff for them. I'd wager they're never getting back to where they were headed.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] ekerbuddyeker:
I think you negatives are all wrong. The s22 ultra will be a dynamite device. Even more so since the s21 ultra is still better than any other device that has come out in the 12 months since! And this is especially includes the pixel 6 pro dud (which I owned). Look at some tech reviewers who went out and bought the pixel 6 pro and then went back to their s21 Ultras. And these guys own every other device that came out in the last year.

I'm definitely getting it.

BTW I have had not a single issue with upgrading to android 12 on my s21 ultra.

I can't wait for this new device.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] DS1000RR:
Looks awful, barely evolutionary, more expensive, never found a use for s pen, minimal updates over current ultra, not worthy to be an s device.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Going by all the leaks, it looks like Samsung is keeping the cost same for the new series. Whether they will start at a lower storage and RAM tier (as a cheap marketing trick) remains to be seen though...

Camera system looks identical with some minor upgrade to ultra clear glass lenses (which I think is just desperate marketing to add some new feature just for the heck of it).

What I'm particularly interested in, is whether the inclusion of the S-Pen will take away space from the battery.... That would be a bummer. The S21U is a chonky phone with a chonky 5000mAh battery but still has just acceptable battery life. Any dent in that area will be hard no from me.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
What many people are missing is the dark horse that's going to give SD and Exynos a run for their money - the Dimensity series which has an SoC for every tier that SD is in. The good part is that in almost every tier MediaTek seems to be doing a better job than SD. The sad part is the very few flagships have MediaTek chips in them...I hope a huge brand throws its weight behind MediaTek.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] blackhawk:
No SD card slot, and all other improvements will be marginal. It's got an spen slot... so is it a trans Note? Samsung seems to be confused.

Buying first means you're the first to discover it's wonderful problems. Samsung has been having more display issues across all models since they went to variable refresh rate displays.

Since the Note 10+ Samsung hasn't released any flagships that impress me... so I bought a second new Note 10+. You'll have to wait until fall but more likely 2023 until Samsung maybe gets a grip on its rabid box of gerbils and spits out something exceptional worth the price tag.

And no Samsung I'm not trading you my old phone...
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Joloxx9:
Unfortunately you are right, I ditched OP as my oneplus 7(great device) was not update regularly and camera was really bad. I had hope that OP9 pro will be quite good but nope, Hasselblad name is just pure marketing bs.

Sadly there is no real good android competitor, anyway, we will see. For sure this is my last galaxy/phone with curved screen as this is worst thing ever.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
In my opinion, in the current tech environment, it doesn't make much sense to upgrade a flagship to a new flagship every year because there isn't many upgrades or even any worth spending the additional money unless u have lots of money or if you find a awesome deal where u can get it for dirt cheap.

Let's take the S20 Ultra, upgrading from that to the S21 Ultra made sense because it was really an upgrade, in terms of soc, camera and autofocus. But from S21 Ultra to S22 Ultra isn't much seeing the reduction in ram, not much improvement in SoC and almost same spec everywhere. If u need a spen that much, get a spen pro and it'll be future proof as well. This is my opinion.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
Here's something interesting...Samsung's trade-in website itself degrades their own devices...what a sad state...
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] blackhawk:
Maybe it's a fair market price. Don't know as I don't pay much attention to Apples.

What I don't like are the numerous stories of people sending devices into Samsung for repair or trade in and Samsung claiming they recieved with preexisting damage. It's to the point I would take pictures before boxing it at FedEx with an employee, double boxing it and insuring it of course.

Samsung's phone division is very fragmented and it's only is getting worse. They even forgot what a Note is called; that it's a device power users love (or use to) and what side the spen goes on. They might as well put a big protruding front cam at the top because they seem to parrot Apple's degraded design and functionality rather than leading with innovation. No Sammy dropping the 3.5mm jack and especially the SD card slot wasn't innovation, it's being chintzy cheap.

The Fold remains an unfolding disaster story and at the same time Samsung guts one of its best selling lines, the Note.

"A real masterpiece..." as Pappy Boyington would snidely say🤭

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[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] lywyn:
I find it weird that people that do not like the S21 Ultra spend so much time in the forum for that model. It seems they like to point out the failings, rather than seek out positive discussion about their own choices.