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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I still don't get why people think that vibrant colors are "good". Cranking up the brightness and reducing the color palette down to 20 colors might be feasible for a comic, but for an everyday device, depicting all kinds of content? I'd rather have color accuracy. Samsung is known for oversaturating the heck out of their phones, ergo yes a Pixel might seem "dull" to you (not sure why you say yellow, my phone has no yellow hue/tint - Pixels are calibrated between a mix of what most TV makers call Warm I/II (which most consider as "accurate")), even though to other ears that's a positive point, since that's called "accurate" and many like it.

Just take a look at icons... you can't tell me that they don't look different on your Pixel. That they don't have color shades and color transitions that you can't see in a Samsung. That's an accurate image - to show you exactly what the creator of the content envisioned. They surely don't want people to lose access to all kinds of details for the sake of "MUST LOOK VIBRANT! KABOOM SATURATION! GREEN IS GREEN! AND THAT MEANS COMIC GREEN! VIBRANT MAXIMUS! (there are thousands and thousands of hues of green, but not with an oversaturated phone...)".

Colors in life are rarely flashy, vibrant and glorious. They are dull, sad and weak. Only few colors are dashing. And the Pixel depicts that. But only those. It doesn't artifically crank up every color to the max, just to "please" the uneducated mind.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Aside from the colours, the panel just looks much better. There's even noticeable PWM on my P6P that the s21U doesn't have. After years of trying to get the right tuning , contrast etc on my TVs I've decided to go with what I like , same for phones, the P6P just doesn't look that nice to me. PS. I didn't think the OP8Pronhad a good display either, mine had pretty bad green tint and black crush at low brightness.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Interesting. My family has many S21Us and I've noticed flicker on their phones, but not on my P6 Pro. In the end it's a question of sensitivity I guess. Every modern flagshipphone flickers/ has PMW (Iphones, Samsungs, Pixels...), so in the end I'd say get the device that's best for your eyes/headaches.

According to https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsu...proved-in-many-ways-but-not-all.517524.0.html the S21 Ultra has

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I looked for a test with the P6 Pro, but haven't found such a graphic yet.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Of course, you should get the display you like. A lot is probably subjective anyway.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
The S21U is not "missing colors when in vibrant mode. Although you may find colors oversaturated.

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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
I don't know if it is the panel or the way it has been configured but the more you turn the brightness up the more washed out it gets unlike my OP 8 Pro it is just clear right the way through, However I agree it is not pleasing to my eyes at all, The font for the status bar looks blurry, No white accent to get rid of the puke and can't disable that theming nonsense look, While this may look good to some it does not to me at all.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Yes but question do you watch everyday TV programs with Warm 1 or Warm 2 as it is known on Sony TV's? I am going to stick my neck out and say you probably don't as most Warm profiles on TV's is for Movies only not everyday use and the fact is I can adjust it on my TV back to neutral without that yellow look.

As for the colours yes they do look natural and just about right but it's that washed out look that makes the colours look even more muted, No point having a good colour profile and then washing them out all with yellow is there lets be honest it does not make sense and never has why they do this on a device that you look at 99% of the time and 9 times out of 10 your not watching movies on it anyway.

Also not just the yellow tint you have to put up with on these P 6's and Pro's it's even that crappy material you that you can't turn and so no mater what wallpaper you use it's adding yet another layer of colour on top of the yellow already, So you've got yellow and 1 of them 4 accent colours messing everything up, My problem is with Google is they are not helping at all by not allowing users to configure their screens, You would not in a million years as an enthusiast purchase a TV that you cannot configure the screen for so.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] bouchigo:
To each their own I suppose. I had the OP 8 Pro before the P6P, and I prefer the P6P's display. The OP 8 Pro would give me a headache after a while of viewing, and the P6P's display does not.

I also prefer the more natural colors of the P6P than the exceedingly vibrant, almost cartoonish-like colors of the Samsung, and OP displays to a lesser extent.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
That's interesting you said about the font looking blurry, this is something I also see but I don't know whats causing it, text looks grainy to me. I don't know the technical reason or why but there's a kind of grain to the display that I can see. 🤷
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] kevinireland11:
Yeah I really do get what you mean but as soon as I turn off night light the screen (white) looks really white lol, it's just your eyes are so so use to that one particular screen I think
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Of course each person has different tolerances etc but for Google to not allow people to configure their displays is kind of limiting your customer base and just alienating potential customers imo.

I get that some people want duller more natural warm screens but this is a flagship device and quite frankly it is not flagship in terms of configurability.

I've decided to send it back and probably wait for the OP 10 Pro, Some things I can live with the display is not 1 of them.

Quite unfortunate as the phone looks lovely but the screen looks awful to my eyes it doesn't matter whether it's natural boosted or adaptive.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Yes if you have OP phones take a look at the text in the status bar it looks damn right awful on the P6 Pro side by side. It looks like there is a filter over certain text on the theming of the desktop or something I don't know it just looks crap lol.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
I don't use night light but I did try it haha, It's hard to explain I have a few gripes with this screen and I'm not sure if only (Of it was ever allowable) to be rectified by just adjusting the white balance.

I'll be honest my vision is good and it stands out like a sore thumb in a dimly lit room I have no idea who the technical engineer is who is setting up these Pixel screens of late but imo he needs an eye test.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] vPro97:
I am sure you'll be happy with your decision, Ady1976. I know where you're coming from, prior to my acquisition of the Pixel 6 Pro I bought a Sony Xperia 1 III. Its screen was highlighted as being one of the best, especially with the 4K 120 Hz and the X1 Bravia engine tuning. In addition to that, I was totally sold on the front facing stereo speakers, since I consume a lot of videos on my phone.

But the screen turned out to be the weak point of the phone - not only did it not get bright enough, it wasn't running at its native resolution all the time. And since the rendered resolution didn't scale properly with the native resolution of the display (it rendered at 2560x1096 versus the native resolution of 3840x1644) text just appeared unsharp. While I prefer the duller, more true-to-life colors (though I can enjoy overblown colors in some scenarios), unsharp text is an absolute no-go - especially when it's supposed to be a highlight of the device and it takes such a huge toll on the battery.

I returned the device and frankly I don't miss it - the Pixel 6 Pro bests it in every thinkable way, save maybe for the speakers. I fully support your decision, the display is one of the most important features of a device!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
That's the first time I heard of this (I've been thinking of owning a Sony over the years because of their 4K display) - does that mean Sony is just "faking" 4K? If the rendered resolution is that low, their claims go out the window. Native resolution means nothing if it's not properly used by apps. That's a disappointment. Good thing that I didn't buy their phones.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
The newer Samsung phones have diamond sub pixel matrix displays which allow for smoother text. I wouldn't mind a list of phones which use these types of display, I wonder if a lot more phones actually use them, maybe they do and the P6P doesn't?. The P6P definitely looks "grainy" to me. Would love to find out why.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] vPro97:
Allow me to elaborate. The display is indeed 3840x1644. However, it doesn't always run at that resolution (presumably to save battery). It only runs at that "4K" resolution for supported apps (such as Sonys own apps and supported multimedia content). For general use of the device, such as browsing and the entire UI, the device operates in 2560x1096 resolution.

It didn't support adaptive refresh rate, so refresh rate was either fixed at 60 or 120 Hz with no easy way of changing the refresh rate on the fly. Changing from 60 Hz to 120 Hz did on my particular (and probably faulty panel) introduce a color shift.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
If you refer to PenTile RGBG matrix technology (https://www.oled-info.com/taxonomy/term/153/all), that one has been in use since the Samsung Galaxy S4 and according to https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-6-pro-display-review/ the Pixel 6 Pro uses PenTile*.

There is a thread about this (P6 sub), but there's not much info about it except a reference about the link I copied

https://xdaforums.com/t/pentile-or-rgb-matrix.4353937/

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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Interesting. There's info about it here too https://www.oled-info.com/pentile
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Ahhh, this is interesting. So the P6P has a lower fill ratio of sub pixels so this could be causing it! https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-6-pro-display-review/
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Samuel Holland:
Thanks for the post, I have been wondering about this coming from 8pro and now 9 pro. The one thing I really would miss is the 65watt charging. Also the screen on the 9 pro really IMO is one of the best looking screens I've ever owned. I usually theme everything dark, but when I go to white, etc. it always amazes me how good the screen looks. Looking at the link from a couple posts down I was surprised to see the p6pro ranked above just about everything. I remember the "billion color" thing for the 9 pro when other screens could only do "". It's ashame that now the 9 pro kernel source, etc, along with the pulled Android 12 update and the rest of the oxygen os news. I was on pixel before the 8 & 9 and was excited to see the 6pro except I didn't want to lose the charging, etc. I've yet got to see this device in real life and am thankful for the discussion. 👍
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
In case you didn't know already, Sony permanently gimps their phones if you unlock the bootloader. They allow you to officially unlock the bootloader, but they warn you, and in my case for the only Sony phone I had - the Xperia Ultra XA2, they gimped it even worse over time. It's been several years so I don't remember the details, but the primary way they gimp their phones is the camera - the camera actually is kept from working as well once you unlock the bootloader.

I was also bummed and I should've researched better at the time that the USB-C port was only USB 2.0. It was in the early years of USB-C and I just didn't realize that USB-C didn't necessarily mean USB 3.x or better.

Sorry if this is off-topic (a lot), but I just thought I should share in case you ever again became tempted to get one of their phones.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
That's surprising about the Xperia I'd have thought they would have had a good calibrated screen although apparently the 6 Pro does it just doesn't allow any configurability which is my reasoning really, The saying has never been so true there is no perfect phone out there, This was becoming close with all the leaks and the YouTubers bumping it up but the screen is a let down to me.

As @batfink has posted that link to a display review of this screen where they mention about no white balance calibration available and it looks way off from his calibrated monitor.

I'm looking at this screen now and blacks look overblown and washed out and white looks almost cream like however I am not surprised now as now we know what colour profile Google used for this display in that review, The same profile that looked like crap on my OP 8 Pro although wide colour gamut on the OP 8 Pro looks sweet to me, Perfect whites and a little more saturation.

Aah well I have tried to live with it for a day or 2 but I just can't live with these blacks being overblown and no white balance.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
You know thinking about it this screen is wider than my OP 8 Pro so if they have tried to expand pixels I am not surprised this is the result, Although I would have liked to have calibrated the white myself and tried wide colour gamut before giving up on this phone but alas Google don't really care what people think it seems with their basic functionality of their devices.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PrinceLc:
Hy use color changer pro to calibrate your display. I use it and bumped the colours like Samsung display, more vivide colours
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Hi thanks for that unfortunately it needs the phone to be rooted and I am not sure how to do it correctly without messing anything up, Is it possible to stick with Google stock software while rooted?

I have had a look at a few guides but sounds a bit confusing, I'd definitely give it a go if it solves it with a little calibration.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PrinceLc:
Yes I am fully stock December patch and fully rooted all is working normal. Safety net pass and all banking apps are working
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] whatsisnametake2:
this is the first time i've come across this app. are you able to adjust the black and white points on the pixel 6? ie for example lift the black point so the blacks aren't quite as deep?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Without a colorimeter like this you don't have a prayer of dialing it in right by eye.

Color calibration of displays by eye just doesn't work...

Unfortunately it only supports Apples. Of course it can only calibrate to the limits of the display's capabilities. iPhones aren't the best smartphone displays.

For color rendering in Androids the OP9 Pro and Flagship Samsung's particularly the N10+ are at the top. No color rendering results yet for the P6 but you can bet they will likely be lower than the 2 former manufacturers.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PrinceLc:
Hy also I changed only the colours to be more vivid and the white balance also more blue so it looks more white. I have the P6P.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Cheers thanks I did root and give it a go and certainly the colours can be boosted and it does look better than any setting Google has left us however I still couldn't get the white to my liking so will wait for a few Google updates and then root again and see what mods are available.

Strangely try looking for a root or even non root white balance android app I cannot find one anywhere and yet Samsung has it in all their devices.

So unless someone can enable wide colour gamut in this device I don't think the white will ever look right.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PrinceLc:
So I checked now the white on the iPhone 12 and on my P6P. The P6P is definitely white the iPhone is more orange in it so more warm
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Matterhorn:
White balance and color saturation is so subjective. After years of working on a calibrated monitor for Photoshop work I've learned to accept that prettier is usually not accurate. Then again you should have the screen the way you like it unless you're editing photos.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PrinceLc:
That is fact ! The way you like it !
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Meh rose, green etc colored sunglasses? I use neutral grey.

Baseline color temp of 5600K, and accurate colors accordingly... bad Pixel.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] JessSayin:
Nope I'm afraid not. I went back to my old OnePlus 5T for that very reason. I kept the Pixel 4a and use it as a Walkman/Camera but had the Pix 5 and 4a 5G as well. Same thing, sold them. Their screens are crap unless you like yellow instead of white.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Yeah it's not great even with the rooted app in beta someone released I got a refund because it simply does not have white lol, I really don't get it
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Read about phone display testing here. This Pixel model hasn't been reviewed yet. Some of the One Plus's are reviewed including the 9 Pro which did very good.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] galaxys:
Yeh, the OnePlus 9 Pro is my go-to until the Pixel 6 Pro gets straightened out with a Google big update fixes!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
My wife got the Nord 2 a couple of days ago and the colours honestly looks better than my P6Pro . Im pretty jealous of it!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Google will never add Wide Gamut or white balance or RGB control they are useless in that sense, I am beginning to have buyers remorse now especially with this constant refresh rate drop that is happening every single time now I unlock my phone even after restarting it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
J

I came to that conclusion a couple of weeks ago. I'm just waiting to see what other phones come out and ill sell the P6P. In regards to the display, you don't see anything wrong until you put it beside another phone, the display is very green/yellow. Is that just the white calibration? I know people will say it's more life-like etc but it just looks ugly to me.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Lol, don't divorce her!

Between Android OS blunders and less than exceptional recent hardware from Samsung made me decide to buy my 2nd N10+. It was sorta of dumb luck that I bought the 1st one but the 2nd one was quit deliberate. Good display Q, lots of ram and especially a 1tb SD card capability are mandatory.

In the 2 years since Samsung hasn't got the mix right and Android is dropping the ball like a toothless drunk lab.

No matter what make/model you buy you can't get everything and likely don't want some of it.

The latest doesn't neccesarily mean better usability/functionality. I watch multiple forum sites to see what user's are saying and what problems they're having. Next flagship I buy I will wait at least 6-12 months after release for the dust to settle before buying. Basically I'm in a holding pattern for the next 2-3 years because I got tired of watching all the dropped balls, slanted reviews and no stone cold killer phones (in my opinion).

Grab something you like and is proven good. It should be fun to use... then disable OTA updates, dial it in and you're good for 2+ years.

There's one way to easily check and get a rough idea of color throughput.

Get a color calibration chart and take a picture of it. Compare the actual chart to the image on the phone. Light color temp it's photographed in and viewing color temp will effect the results as will display brightness.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Yeah, you're right I'm just a sucker for cutting edge tech though, don't actually use my phone as a phone, just like messing around with it and testing it and seeing all the new featurs etc. The reviews are crazily slanted, sometimes it's like a different phone theyre using to the one you actually get! Used to root and install custom kernels etc but haven't got the time for that now and can't be bothered trying to fix various bugs and display calibrations with customs ROMs etc. Tbh, most people would probably see the P6P as "fine" it's just I'm a bit nerdy and OCD about all the tech stuff/ display etc.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
this is exactly my issue - I don't Game or use social media (on any platform). I just like using a new Device, whether it be a smartphone, computer or car. And I like making sure everything is running smoothly. Doesn't matter what's being displayed on the screen - it's how it got there that's important to me.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
It looks ugly to me also, I'm still tempted to just send it back and wait for the one plus 10 Pro even more so after just trying cod mobile on this 6 Pro omg the sound is terrible compared to my OP 8 Pro, It sounds like it's in mono lol, I think I am beginning to hate this phone the more I test it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ady1976:
Well I have arranged to return the device and will be waiting for the OP 10 Pro.

Sadly I loved the look of the P6 Pro it looks great but if Google cannot get the basic fundamentals of a device to be customisable by the user and to at least test for the long list of bugs before releasing a device then I think my time with Google smartphones is over until they like OP listen to their customers.

Take care all and hope whoever is having issues with this device get them sorted eventually.
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Quigley:
Like the title says: is it possible to turn of the adaptive icons in order to just show the legacy old Android style icons. I personally don't see the point of having these circles, squares, "sqircles", or "drops" or whatever around your icons and I sure don't need to have a uniform look (in over thirty years we didn't need this on Linux or Windows either, so why now with Android we need this feature and everything needs to have a uniform shape at the cost of readability?)

Anyway I don't want to rant about this. Is there a way to disable it?

Here is some nice discussion about this: https://mobileinternist.com/disable-adaptive-icons-android-oreo

Also, I know that Nova Launcher has the legacy icons option, but I'd rather keep my launcher the same or at least open source.

I added a poll just to see folks' opinions. :)
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] SigmundDroid:
Well, I don't mind it... even though I'd agree with you but consider it a typical 1st world problem:

I think the following is a bigger problem, and it concerns real usability:

https://xdaforums.com/t/sms-messaging-only-4-lines-help-needed.4370319/

Question is, do we have any means to solve these things?
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Quigley:
True. ;) Although what I see waaaaaaaay more as a first world problem is that people started wanting uniform icons several years ago, which is the reason why Google came up with adaptive icons in the first place. I mean, clamouring about your icons having different shapes?!

In general I'm a bit annoyed that everything on phones needs to be so polished compared to other computers. And it's not just manufacturers and developers who put so much resources into this. Also users go our of their way with icon packs, carefully crafted backgrounds, skinning, etc. (Of course if that's just a pastime for you, fine.)

What's more, since you cannot apparently get the normal/legacy icons back, this is just a feature degression. So what we have now is a bad "solution" to a "non-problem".

</rant>

I'll take a look!
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Quigley:
It seems there are enough ideas how to do this, seeing by the clever people on this site: https://stackoverflow.com/questions...of-an-adaptive-icon-including-removal-of-back

One of those methods mentioned there is probably also the way Nova Launcher bypasses the adaptive icons (when you check the setting "Prefer legacy icons").