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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
I've noticed that several attempts have been made to id bad/good hardware by build number but nothing has gotten off the ground (yet). My contention of "having fixed hardware" is conjecture based on the fact that my Fuze is brand new and I don't have (have never had) any of lag issues that have been described here. If we're all running the same software with the same settings yet getting different results then hardware differences would seem to be indicated. This is supported by posters who have cited HTC's awareness of hardware issues.

Of course, it all might be something else too, like how many programs are running and what navigator we are all using. I get best results with TomTom when no other apps are running. Lag could be something as simple as screen update issues b/c the navigation software doesn't support an accelerated mode that's compatible with a raphael. VGA = 4 times as many pixels to update after all.

What I do find fascinating is that everybody who has tested this reports that the audio accuracy remains. ie: with different devices side by side, the directions are lock step. This would indicate a display issue. I have noticed that TomTom works much better with the ROM I'm running now. The display moves very smoothly now. Is it b/c Da_G tweaked the video dirvers with a different ddi? Dunno.

FWIW mine is HT846Kxxx
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jdonder:
For the moment, everything is working fine, but I only have a big GPS-LAG still. I used all registery tweaks I could find, except... I did not updated a ROM yet.

So, the only step left is that I also flash my radio-rom to 1.02.25.28

I have read everything from this topic (I think). English is not my own language, so I have read everything twice and hope to understand it all.

Situation now:

1.90.404.1 NLD <- I want to keep this original for now (is this possible?)

1.02.25.19 <- only this one has to be updated I guess.

52.33.25.174 protocol

If I go flashing my radiorom. First step is to install HARD-SPL. Next step is to update only the Radio-ROM.

Questions:

1. do I loose any data by installing HARD-SPL and the radio-rom?

2. is this all possible without updating my original 1.90.404.1 NLD ROM?

3. if this all isn't working, is it possible to get the original 1.02.25.19 back?

Sorry if I ask to much, but I am very scared about breaking my device, because it is working well for all the rest of it. Always a fast fix also, only that stupid LAG.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
You have to "Security Unlock" to update radio roms to non Touch Pro radio roms like the BlackStone. You also need Hard SPL. Directions are in the Radio sticky in the Rafael Radio thread.

1.02.25.19 is your current radio rom this is just for communication with towers and GPS.

Don't get that confused with OS Roms. That's like NATF's etc in the rom section. That requires Hard reset. And you will start over. (I personally would install a new rom other than stock. You don't have to though.

Good luck and look forward to your posts on XDA...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] btprice2001:
I had this issue whenever I enabled aGPS, but I've just recently tried disabling ReAiding and enabling aGPS and so far I have not had any issues. I also left GPSMode at 2.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] neuen:
How do you keep your Fuze awake?

My iGuidance 4 works pretty good on my Fuze, except the screen goes dark every few seconds. Is there a way to keep the screen on while navigating? Is there a fix for this in the GPS Tweaks.cab at the top of this thread?

Thanks,
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mindfrost82:
There's usually a setting in the GPS app somewhere to always keep the backlight on. I know Garmin and iGo have this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lemting:
does GPStweaks works on HTC HD with ROM RADIO 1.13.25.2 (last one on xda)?

thanK you
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Daved+:
I understand the Raph may have a weak GPS reception but what does that have to with the gps lag? With a weak reception, you will get a bad dilution of precision but that won't cause gps lag as far as I know. This has to be some software problem in the radio. What do you think?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jouke74:
The problem of the GPS fixes is that they are not working well on all radio versions as I could prove this weekend. This weekend I updated my HTC pro with the latest (for me official) KPN rom, and GPS behavior changed quite a lot. I went from radio 1.02.25 to 1.11.25.01.

With radio 1.02.25 the folllowing GPS tweaks worked great: 512 for all buffers including new MaxBufferSize under Multiplexer. SleepOnNoData and PollIntervall at 100. Fix was quick and GPS was quite accurate. If you put Google maps and Tomtom manually on com4: and 57600 baudrate it worked great with nearly no lag.

With the new radio 1.11.25.01 all above tweaks failed miserably. First GPS fix took about 30 minutes and was very weak, furthermore it could not keep lock. So I reset everything back to default. Meaning PollIntervall and SleepOnNoData at 1000, and in- and output buffers on 4096. I removed the maxbuffersize tweak. This resulted in a much better fix (less than two minutes repeatedly) and the GPS could follow me at least (with a very small lag). Now I had to use the Internal GPS (automatic) settings in both Google maps and Tomtom otherwise it would not connect to the gps stream.

In conclusion: people who are having problems with getting a fix using the tweaks, please undo them again, as that probably will work better.

I assume that HTC tried to make new radio respond better to standard settings of the GPS intermediate driver.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] iRiKi:
6 months after buying a diamond, i saw the gps evolution in the roms/radio allong the time, coming from terribly awful to averagely ok now.

all in all, i've only done 3 things:

- upgrade the diamond to 2.03 rom

- upgrade radio to 1.10.25.25

- and use registry key HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS\GPSMode, from 2 to 1, in order to fix the so-called pedestrian mode.

since u guys own raphaels, you could also try to find the perfect combination. me? im happy now :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
You can find that setting in tomtom settings! Dont know exactly what the name of the option is becouse I have a Swedish version installed, but the icon is a car, bike and a yellow questionmark!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] komani86:
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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] komani86:
I checked in advanced config and A-GPS was turned off.. I guess vodafone branded DID turn it off by default :)

DUDE IM SO FKIN Happy now.. haha i found the icon its in settings>plan route

im going to walk outside just to test it! :D:D

YOUR ROM ROCKS! I'm glad I took the 'risk'!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
It´s not my ROM, but I will take the credit for the settings tough! LOL :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cribeiro:
What is BeeLineGPS?

[BeeLineGPS

1. Click on tools>GPS>Setup Serial Port (Comm Port).

Choose COM4: and set the Baud rate to 38400, then check

"Enable auto reconnect"!

2. Go in to Tools>Configuration>Map Properties... Under "Filters" Untick the box that says "Enable Track Filter",

this will make sure that the software does not drop the GPS connection every few secounds!

Done![/QUOTE]

Hi

Please informe what is BeeLineGPS. Is it a cab software to install? If yes, where is it?

Thanks

cribeiro
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Hi

Please informe what is BeeLineGPS. Is it a cab software to install? If yes, where is it?

Thanks

cribeiro[/QUOTE]

BeeLineGPS is another navigation software used for geocatching and outdoor activities!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] speed200:
Hi

Please informe what is BeeLineGPS. Is it a cab software to install? If yes, where is it?

Thanks

cribeiro[/QUOTE]

http://www.tucows.com/preview/504418

all I did wag Google It.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Keep us updated!

Hey guys, if this helped you with your GPS lag please vote and share with us on the improvment!

Also if this tip helped you in any other navigation software, please share the settings and I will try to keep the main post updated!

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dagrim1:
Already flashed the radio and I honestly think that is the main reason for improved performance... I haven't noticed any difference after changing the settings mentioned in this thread.

I'll try it some more some other time to see if I'm wrong though. I have the feeling mapping is a bit better as well (less lag) in this radio but it's still far from perfect. Tomtom still is often 'confused'. Thanks for the information though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
It is strange that it didnt work out for you, are you sure you set TomTom to other NMEA and baud 38400? Also it is important to choose COM4:, even if other ports will work COM4 is the default on raphael and it does work best!

Make sure to choose COM4 in external GPS, and manage automaticly!

For me the pedestrian mode is perfect now!

Good luck and keep us posted!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ulric72:
@dagrim1

Have you reduced the lag flashing with the radio 1.02.25.28 ? Can you confirm? Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dagrim1:
Yeah, I think flashing to radio 1.02.25.28 has reduced the lagging a bit (and speeded up getting a fix) but I haven't tested it enough to give a final verdict. It is not perfect though! Far from it... but it seems to have improved.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Yes fashing is important to improve the performance, that is why I recommend doing that before doing the other settings!

However, only flashing will not help you all the way you must change all the setting I mentioned or you will not get any effect!

If nothing else helps then try hard resetting your device! Mine is now perfect in both pedestrian and car mode, so maybe you have to hard reset?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] faza11:
In Settings>External GPS, do i have to set the Baud rate in the hardware tab to 38400 as well or is it just in tomtom that this setting has to be changed?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
No, nothing changed at all

I had changed the Radio some days ago and I didn´t notice any reducing of the lag. So I tried these further steps (settings of external gps as default (com 4 and auto config)) but choosing other NMEA device instead of internal one.

My result: the lag is at least as before. while my car isn´t moving for 10 seconds it still shows a speed of 5 km. while it does so it shows a position 20 - 30 meters behind me.

even with this workaround tomtom ar any other navi software seems to be quiet useless :-(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Only set tomtom to 38400 not the external gps!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
If you have done some other gps settings before, tempered with registry or something I would suggest that you do a hard reset! It is important to only change those things mentioned and nothing else!

Keep us posted on how it goes!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
It´s exactly what I did. So no use to do a hard reset.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] komani86:
Just to be clear, before the ROM and adjustments my pedestrian mode sucked bigtime.

After I installed the new Radio ROM the improvements were noticeable but still not special.

Then I did the following:

1) Start > Settings > External GPS

In External GPS you adjust in the "Programs tab": COM4 and in the "Access Tab (3rd tab)": Automatically control GPS ticket that on (recommended)

2) TomTom

Settings > Show GPS Status (last tab) > Setup (bottom button) > "Other NMEA-Receiver > Baud 38.400 and then it asks for COMport > pick COM4:

3) Test tomtom by walking outside.

It DID make a HUGE difference for me.. its up to 10-20 meters accurate now if I walk..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Glad it worked out for you! :)

It was worth risking to flash, right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Pritman:
Google Maps

Has anyone tried to see if the lag problem exists with google maps? It's possible that the problem could be unique to tomtom...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
yes, I tried several programs. all of them had the lag - tomtom as well. and the same version runs perfect on my tytn II. so it must be the touch pro, not the software
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] snark_be:
When I select "Other NMEA GPS receiver" and click on Select, first it asks for the GPS baud rate (I set it at 38400) and then the COM port to use (COM4: here). Don't you get this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
I see that many of you still reports/votes that the issue was not fixed even after following all the steps mentioned!

Taking into consideration that my GPS is working perfectly after doing this, and I really do regret that not all of you can experience the same thing!

Now the only other thing I did besides flashing radio and these settings, was actually flashin a new ROM!

So all of you that voted it is not helping, can you please let us know what Radio/Rom versions you are using in your devices! Maybe this can help sorting things out!

Also I would like to know from everyone that it worked for what they use!

I am using ROMEos V. 1.13 SVE / Radio 1.02.25.28
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
Your advice doesn´t help me and I use

Radio 1.02.25.28 and

still the original HTC Stock ROM 1.90.407.4 GER

I´m glad to see that there might be a solution. I would flash the ROM as well if I knew what would solve it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Why not try ROMeOS V. 1.13? it worked for me, and it is a good rom!

One of the best for now actually!

Also I did flash the new radio 1.02.25.32, and my device is functioning even better then with 1.02.25.28! But I still have to check out gps with the new radio, so I will keep you all posted when I do!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Worse with radio 1.02.25.32

Radio .32 made the GPS lag worse, I am switching back to .28!

But maybe the new ROMeOs v. 1.20 would help some of you!

Please keep us posted if you decide to try it!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] XL3N7:
I 've flashed this radio with ROMeOS² v. 1.13 and the GPS problem wasn't rectified but I kind of expected it with all the registry tweaks I had made before, trying to resolve the issue. After flashing PDAVIET's v05 and now ROMeOS² 1.20, the problem seems to be resolved. No lag with iGO 8.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DeepThought:
Which radio do you use? And in ROMeOS² have you applied any GPSfix/tweak or have you left monx default settings?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] XL3N7:
I'm using 1.02.25.28, as stated in the first post and I haven't made any tweaks. I also haven't set the baud rate to 38400
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
I think that only applies for Igo8, can someone confirm this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Updated with another method, on first page!

Please try it and report back how it works for you!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] paulyluca:
I have one question: what exactly is the GPS Tweeks cab doing? what is it modifying? I ask because I have don some manual tweeking myself, as found around the forum, and I just want to know if they are the same tweeks or not.

Thanks,

Paul
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
That is an excellent question, but I dont have an answer for you becouse I am not the one that made it!

If method 2 proves to work better then method 1, then it would be good to know what is changed so we can understand how to fix it in the future!

So if anyone has the answer to this question, or if the author of this cab himself could step forward and answer it, that would be of great help!

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] branko.savic:
Updated Method 2

Updated method 2 with new settings!

Please try and report back!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Brendo:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver]
"MaxLogFileSize"=dword:00000000
"CurrentLogFile"=" "
"OldLogFile"=" "

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice]
"PollInterval"=dword:000000fa

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers]
"InputBufferSize"=dword:00000200
"OutputBufferSize"=dword:00000200
"SleepOnNoData"=dword:00000064

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
"MaxBufferSize"=dword:00000200
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] paulyluca:
Thank you. All clear now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xeryus1907:
what r these settings for?

i have a lag problem, can these settings solve this problem or these are for different problems?

Thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] paulyluca:
For some people from the forum this reg tweeks helped for the lag problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
Method 2 does it for me!!

After I tried the first method without success I tried those modifications done in ROMeOS ROM. As I did it I couldn´t get any GPS Fix anymore neither with GPS Test nor with TomTom)

Now I tried Methos 2 and the GPS is working as it should nearly without any log. And it works even with TomTom. Thanks!!!:D

I would habe liked to vote, but I mustn´t as I did it in the earlier Poll.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] laft2k:
Seems as though my method seems to be working :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] paulyluca:
Found this on the Diamond forum: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2794324&postcount=551

Will try it out and keep you guys posted.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mphayvanh:
Method 1 works!

Radio 1.02.25.28 with ROMeOS 1.21 TomTom 7 no GPS Tweaks other than tt7bot. G-Watch .5 app to obtain fix, then minimized to start TomTom 7 (tt7bot used from Diamond Forum) - COM4: at baudrate 4800. Also changed TomTom GPS to Other NMEA. Obtain satellite fix within 2-3 minutes. 1 second lag versus 50 meter before.

Thanks!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mphayvanh:
Method 1 works!

Radio 1.02.25.28 with ROMeOS 1.21 TomTom 7 no GPS Tweaks other than tt7bot. G-Watch .5 app to obtain fix, then minimized to start TomTom 7 (tt7bot used from Diamond Forum) - COM4: at baudrate 4800. Also changed TomTom GPS to Other NMEA. Obtain satellite fix within 2-3 minutes. 1 second lag versus 50 meters before.

Thanks!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xeryus1907:
paulyluca did it work?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MenosOcho:
I'm interested too.

I'm using Garmin Mobile XT, but if it work, this means that GPS lag isn't a Pto issue? is it a software issue???

Last answer received from HTC (im not in Brazil!), regarding to "both devices" i mentioned that Cruise work better than Pro.

Dear Mr Martin,

Thank you for contacting HTC Brazil support.

We would like to inform you that there is no fix for this problem. Both devices have the same operational system and should work with the same perfomance.

Please make a hard reset, but save your data before this procedure.

Regards,

Ricardo Dantas

www.htc.com

htc.clientes@htc.com

Tel: 4003-0HTC 4003-0482
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] paulyluca:
Hope to test it today.

I am using IGO 8. Last night I did a hard reset, installed only a few programs that are indispensable to me.

So, with a "fresh installed" device, i'll make some tests, first I will try to use different baud rates and, if it don't helps, I'll start applying different tweaks, as found in our great forums. Tests will be done in the city, where a reliable GPS is really needed.

Please note that I am using ROMeOS 1.21. There are some GPS tweaks already included. As far as I know, this are:

"A. With Advanced config 3.2 http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/out...ol-32-cab.html

1. disable A-GPS

2. disable GPS logging

3. logfile name must be empty

4. old logfile name must be empty

5. maximum size of logfile must be 0

6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt

B. Then edit registry with TotalCommander http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab

Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\

- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)

- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)

- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)

- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)

- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it)"

Also, I am using RADIO vers. 1.02.25.28

Will report tonight.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MenosOcho:
Another funny answer from HTC Support.

Dear Martin,

We suggest you to please try other GPS navigation software and verify GPS performance. If this issue persists you can try to contact HTC Support in the country where this unit was manufactured (Czech Republic) for further information about GPS performance or any other procedure to solve this issue.

Sincerely,

Silvio Martins

Czech Republic!!! i bought my phone in USA but i must contact to Czech Support!

I'm asking for email from that country.

HTC Support sucks! :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jiggs1337:
I did method 1, and im getting a much faster lock with the .28 radio. I was also going to vote Method 1 as working for the lag for me on the trip TO where i went today, but then, on the way back from there, i once again had lag.

But going to the location, it was perfect, almost slightly ahead :). Coming back, about 3 hours later, TomTom was about 50 meters behind the car again :(.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] topspeclt:
I have experienced EXACTLY the same thing as you describe except with radio ver 25.19.

Symotms indicate either memory leak (software problem), heatup problem (hardware), GPS error (context problem).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] newsflash40:
Sadly, that seems to be HTC's lame, non-responsive answer for everything.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] P0ll0L0c0:
I have a Sprint Touch Pro - my ROM is pretty much stock. I was fed up with the GPS lag and about to give up my phone. But I decided to try the tweaks cab listed here - and it worked great. Where before I saw up to 50 meters of lag, now I see next to none.

I didn't update the radio or flash to a new rom. I just installed the cab file, waited a couple minutes (overkill) then did a soft reset. The next time I ran the GPS program, it went beautifully.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] miwu:
The Cab also worked with my german O2-XDA Pro. I also configured TT7 to use the NEMA and soft-reseted the device. The first fix took about 7 Minutes (the second one only 20 Seconds), but the Lag was reduced from 50 Meters to 5.

Thanks for your great work!

Miwu
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sndtubes:
I tried the second method as my phone is a Sprint CDMA phone and I was afraid to try flashing the radio as it seems everyone is using a GSM radio. Also the radio version number in mine is: 1.03.651.3 which is later than the version recommended.

Should I flash the radio?

Method 2 seems to have improved things a bit, but I still note about a 1 to 2 second lag in TomTom.

In my External GPS settings, I have no option to disable aGPS. Also, I cannot seem to change the port speed from 4800. If I change it, it simply defaults back to 4800.

Any recommendations for us Sprint users are appreciated!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MenosOcho:
Stupid answers from HTC

Hello,

I continue sending emails to HTC support, if you remember, the last answer that i received they told me that i should contact to Czech Republic support because my device was manufactured there (i guess that they know this by my device SN)

Additionally, i sent them more information about GPS lag, by sending link to different public articles, after that i get this answer:

"Dear Mr. Martin,

We do not have information about this issue because this unit is not manufactured here. You can contact Czech Republic Support through this link http://www.htc.com/www/CS_Mail.aspx and selecting Czech Republic as your contry.

Sincerely,

Silvio Martins

"

HTC support sucks! :mad:

Well.., my next target: Czech Republic support.