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[G1 General] Ryanmo5:
I would like to see a few of my favorite apps that i have on dash on g1 such as 10 live or even better an english version lol. A program like the mp3 trimmer for the diamond so i can make my own ringtones would be awesome. Talking phrase books on learning different languages would be a plus as well since I'm trying to learn spanish.
[G1 General] robpet2:
so far the funamobil app is cool, and the device unlock app that scans your eye... also cant forget about the people tracker that can help locate freinds with android devices via the web.
[G1 General] rantrav:
I actually just read that somewhere......but for the life of me i cannot remember the page. but yes there is one either already or in the process...
[G1 General] rantrav:
apps

you guys know that one week after oct 22nd there will be hundreds of apps out there ready to be plucked and used....i really love the iphones looks but i think that android will be a much better program because it is open to anything that can be done! as far as having to buy apps; i am sure this will be true because people will make great apps and put them up to make money..but at the same time others will make great apps and not want to make a profit.
[G1 General] benjimen:
Nope... nothing like that is currently offered by Google -- doesn't mean they aren't working on it though...
[G1 General] rantrav:
I wish that I could remember the page but I did skim by it on a page but I cannot remember if they were just talking about it or it was actually in the works or if it was google or a 3rd party sorry
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Well yes, SOME apps will cost money, but keep this in mind... The Apple Software Development Kit for iPhone costs $99, so people would be stupid to only make a free program, they'd be losing money to help others. As for the SDK for Android, free of course. So I have a feeling the only programs that are going to cost money are those that are wildly popular or those that took a looooong time to develop.
[G1 General] rantrav:
I am thinking that seeing how we are dealing with t-mo and google we will see some issues about "free apps" only because one wants free and for people to sell their product for them(hence the complete open, they only have to do little marketing) and the other would see this as an opp to make money...i also think dont think that google is going to be tied to t-mo leaving t-mo much like a leper (well use you to put out our product, quickly without the nicely developed hardware) but then again people want to compare everything to the iphones good looks...not to be a long pointless post but still.......
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Yeah, except the market won't be something T-Mobile specific, it'll be for all Android phones... It's a Google development, just like how your contacts are saved to your Gmail account. T-Mobile will have no say whatsoever in the price of apps that go up in the market. That's like saying AT&T would influence the price of apps in the app store on iPhones, it's all done through Apple, they're the ones that charge for the SDK.
[G1 General] benjimen:
The App Store is only free initially as they haven't finalized the payment system yet. While there will be some free stuff in their, the better products will be available for purchase. Many of the vendors who have software ready to put in the store are simply waiting for the payment system to be implemented.

Meanwhile, places like Handango are implementing their own Android stores with payment capabilities in place. Apparently the Handango store will launch the same day as the G1, with so far over 100 apps -- all for purchase. Those same apps will be in the Android Store just as soon as you and I have a way to give up our credit card number ;)
[G1 General] rantrav:
Yeah i almost feel bad for t-mobile because theyre only gaining from the initial launch and whatever time until the next android based phone is released...but i dont think that they intended this to fight the iphone..maybe google but not t-mobile...also i heard that some of googles execs sit on pples board as well....dont remember source
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Eh, people are going to flock to T-Mobile not just now, but in a few months if they really like the phone. They'll get plenty of business off of it, and it's just the beginning of their new 3G network. The rush won't be anything close to iPhone's, but once they start bringing out more high end devices they'll be making bank.
[G1 General] rantrav:
so..does anyone have any good ideas for great apps...aside from virtual keyboard...(i think is a must, but must be ale to choose to use it from the menu button..) also it would be nice to have full use of the accelerometer like being abel to turn the screen without having to open the hardware qwerty...not sure if this would be a hardware or software update???
[G1 General] vitalinx:
Priority Apps for G1

Here's a list of apps that I believe must be done first:

1. Exchange support (Active Sync)

2. Skype

3. Multilingual keyboard (hand writing recognition is very welcome, indeed)

4. Ability to shot movies with the camera.

5. Good business apps. (Word, Spread Sheets, Presentation) compatible with MS Office

6. Good Media player.

7. Nice travel App (see SPB Traveler for WM http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/traveler/?en)

Did I miss anything?
[G1 General] Drzprince973:
I beleive they should also have better themes, i dont really like the "Stock" theme, but I know they will be coming out soon as soon as the phone is realesed here in the U.S.
[G1 General] beartard:
Only that this isn't a microsoft phone ;)

A lot of those projects are pretty ambitious for the first thing to be done. That and the model we're working on as far as software is kinda like a flea market, where individual developers bring their best work to the table. The big corporate base hasn't chimed in on some of those projects yet.

Just on the office part, many Linux-based apps support Microsoft Office import and export. Scaling those down to be comparable to the versions on WM might take a little time. Now, MS Office supposedly supports saving files in the new open document specs which almost anything should be able to open soon. That might be an idea. Also, depending on how beefy the browser is on the G1, there are office suites that are web-based that might do the trick.

Just a few ideas. I'm sure someone or some groups will be tackling almost all the others in short order. It's just a matter of waiting and seeing, as with everything on this new platform.
[G1 General] rantrav:
as for the exchange..if someone were to make an app they would have to go through ms and it would not be a free app or even a $2 app because microsoft would have the upper hand in controling the app and its sales....if someone made one without ms having any knowledge or say it wouldnt be legal..so we may have to wait a while unless ms intends on making this with handgo or whatever that company is
[G1 General] vitalinx:
That is my point, we will see a flood of "Me Too" apps from various developers. Instead I would love to see less apps, but with better quality and usability. Instead of copying Breadcramz, ShopSavvy, or whatever apps are already out there it maybe better to concentrate on something really usable. BTW, will Skype for Nokia internet tablet run on Android? And if not, how dificult would be to adopt it?
[G1 General] rantrav:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HDF4KjvPWs&feature=related

forgot this is for anyone who does not have the emulator....it shows the basics again of this software but its on the computer..not mine..*
[G1 General] rantrav:
thats true..you see a lot of apps having to do with google maps; making games out of it or some sort of friend finder.......come on guys were smarter than this we can make better apps...well maybe not me but i am a complainer so i will voice my opinion as needed
[G1 General] beartard:
I've heard quotes that T-Mobile pressured Google to make VOIP not possible (over 3G, at least). I can't verify how true that is. I don't imagine they could do much about an app over wifi, though.
[G1 General] vitalinx:
I would say it would have something to do with T-Mo pressuring Skype and alike VOIP's to create apps that don't recognize any other connection, but WiFi. This "pressurization" didn't do any good for WM developers. You can have Skype there running on 3G.
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Well, you also forgot something to edit Word documents, right now it views but can't edit.
[G1 General] vitalinx:
No, I didn't, see #5
[G1 General] vitalinx:
Nobody asks MS to change active sync. The request is for independent developers to create app that would sync with Outlook
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Ah, my bad, that's what I get for skimming through a thread real quick. :-P
[G1 General] MarcusMaximus04@gmail.com:
For #5 I'm pretty sure I read that they do have those in some kind of open office/google doc form both of which can be easily used in office.
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
You can currently read office documents, but not edit them.
[G1 General] benjimen:
Might be already available in the app store -- didn't notice it in any of the write-ups, but a simple note application would be nice, similar to the one in my WM device that syncs with Outlook. While the sync part wouldn't be possible, notes are good. I've noticed one of the Google Apps is a nice notes-app, but it's internet based; if you're not connected you wouldn't have access to them...
[G1 General] beartard:
It's in one of the myriad videos that we've all seen since the announcement date for the G1. T-Mobile worked out a deal with Google on VOIP restrictions. What that means exactly is yet to be seen. Google could've just left out a VOIP app, or they could've made the OS unable to make VOIP calls.

In either case, there will be workarounds.
[G1 General] benjimen:
Though I'd seen them all, must've missed that one... Which site?
[G1 General] rantrav:
So now I am guessing that we can get back to "Best Applications for Android".....
[G1 General] Valicore:
I have a question: will there be/IS THERE a way to download apps for the G1 and install them on my G1 off of my SD card?
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Seriously, I can't believe this discussion is still going on.

I wanna see some games for Android like I saw for iPhone, Cro Mag Rally was it? That looks SICK, using the G-sensor to steer your way through a course. :)
[G1 General] rantrav:
Thats whaive been wanting to see...some use of the sensor! does anyone know if it can be altered to change with the rotation of the phone????
[G1 General] beartard:
I don't see why not, given that every application is equal on the platform. Should be able to code games to use the compass, accelerometer, and other hardware things simultaneously. It'd be the Wii-phone.
[G1 General] rantrav:
i would love to see something that is *not centered around google maps...with all of the technology today im sure that well see some awesome games and apps for this phone
[G1 General] beartard:
I'm not really that interested in the games front or really even the accel/compass thing as far as games go. I'm more interested in some streaming media applications and other things that take advantage of 3G. I'm also a little stoked about the "shopsavvy-esque" applications that may prove to make the phone actually useful.
[G1 General] rantrav:
what i really mean about the games is that i want to see better use of this open device. some programs look a little thrown together..but i know more will come with time...i am waiting on 3g i close to atl..so when i check the coverage the blue is just creeping up on me...!
[G1 General] beartard:
Hehe. I've been a Linux user exclusively for over 8 years. I've seen some thrown-together apps before. And since this is a totally new platform that, in many ways, is still under serious development, the best is yet to come. The open nature of the platform means that anybody with a smattering of java know-how can slap something together and bring it to the flea market that is open source. I'm hoping there are some good, 3rd-party "marketplaces" in the works (like the various ppc and smartphone freeware sites) where we can get decent apps without the pricetag.
[G1 General] Ryanmo5:
I spoke to a tmobile rep and he said internet sharing is on the g1
[G1 General] benjimen:
...not initially, though eventually I'd expect they (or a 3rd party) will add it.
[G1 General] vitalinx:
Ther's a number of apps available here http://androidcommunity.com/forums/androidmarket.php and they add new almost everyday, but still, nothing that would really grab my attention :confused:
[G1 General] Valicore:
LMAO: 'It's like, Japan fast!.'

Most hilarious thing I've seen in awhile lol.
[G1 General] dagentooboy:
What if I want USA fast?

LOL that's great...

I asked some questions as well and finally got an honest "I don't know and we haven't been trained" from the PDA support team. I was told that if you call customer care to just say PDA and it would get you to someone that knows a little bit. I gave her a list of questions to take to her training and told her to let me know if there was any way to get a "trial beta" model so I can start playing NOW!!!!
[G1 General] MMTest97:
A couple of things

1. File Explorer Utility (Internal/SD Card)

2. Resources Utility (Battery Life/Memory Status/Connection Status)

3. Bluetooth Utility (which enables some of the common profiles and adding OBEX ability/Beam ability)

4. Flash support via browser (Flash Lite 3.1 or the like)

5. Remote Desktop/Device utility for two way file sharing on USB/BT

6. Bandwidth Utility (Realtime w/ To Date stats and Current speed/connection status)

Just my thoughts, didn't see anything of the like :D
[G1 General] rantrav:
thats right! we want CHUCK NORRIS FAST! not jackie chan or bruce lee fast..booo! ;)
[G1 General] Ryanmo5:
Lol yeah i know they are idiots but then again we really don't know for sure that it's not available on it. By the way i want taz fast!!!
[G1 General] dnyperez:
Not sure if it is possible but i would like to have a garage door opener program or keyles entry for my car
[G1 General] rantrav:
There is a program in the works that is called KEI...it is a keyless entry and remote starter for your car or multiple cars that your family can all have access to the same vehicles
[G1 General] beartard:
Does the G1 have the hardware for this? No RF transmitter (in the frequency of keyless devices). No IR transmitter.
[G1 General] Mikey:
tell me you are both kidding?!?!
[G1 General] Mikey:
There is though phone that shatters all others. Here you gggggggoooooooooo!!!
[G1 General] beartard:
That's such a slick ad. They did some good work on that.
[G1 General] rantrav:
No MIT is in the process of this here is the link.....

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/05/09/mit-students-demonstrate-their-android-applications/
[G1 General] atlp99:
weather widget

I got to use a G1 today at work and my personal app wish list is

1. Weather Widget, there is a weather app available from the android market but I would love to have a widget that could show current conditions on the home screen. Something similar to the weather apps available in the excalibur/ dash forum.

2. Software keyboard for the touchscreen, there is not one available. The only way to enter text is through the slide out keyboard. It would be nice for short messages to have the option of which one to use.

P.S.

Data speeds ran around 700kbs over 3 tests. that is on a blackberry data plan and I dont know if having the correct plan will matter.
[G1 General] beartard:
Ok, that makes more sense. You'd install a bluetooth module near the body control module and it would receive the signal from your phone. Still, a ~30' range for bluetooth would make remote starting kinda pointless.

But like I was saying, the G1 doesn't have the hardware to do that on an existing car starter/keyless entry without the addition of hardware to the car.
[G1 General] Ryanmo5:
Yeah that program looks sweet cant wait to check it out. I'm with you on the media point as well, dash is ok with media but i want perfection dammit! :D
[G1 General] rantrav:
I didnt reread the product info but I do remember them saying somewhere that the user would have to install some sort of hardware in their vehicle...im sure that this would not be cheap but it is pretty cool...
[G1 General] USF NATE:
What about something like open office. This has been out for quite a while no and really is a decent alternative to the MS Office suite. I don't particularly like it or the interface but it may be an option before something like an office suite is available.
[G1 General] haitiankid4lyf:
i second that onscreen keyboard is a must
[G1 General] dan0zone:
Opera mini4 ported to android

Ok for the people who claim that android has no apps YOU ARE SO WRONG

I found this site this morning with tons of apps the ones that caught my attention right away was opera mini and a Lastfm app looks like theres alot of people and or companies porting for android ......SWEETT....

http://www.android-freeware.org/

http://www.android-freeware.org/?page=1

now if one of u good guys with a G1 could test some of these apps and give us some feedback it would be great

BTW looks like these are FREE
[G1 General] dan0zone:
XLIVE

this one looks like it will interest some

http://www.android-freeware.org/category/internet
[G1 General] Mikey:
Contact Sync
[G1 General] GlobalM3:
I go to this site with my G and download it. But it will not open it to instal it.....

Anything I am doing wrong???
[G1 General] Mikey:
There is nothing to download yet! Did you read the whole page??
[G1 General] benjimen:
Why would you want it? You're already syncing your contacts with Google and storing them there -- why would you want to also store them with this 'datacenter'... Have you heard of them before? Do you trust them with your personal info, and the info of others? Just sayin'...
[G1 General] Dirtay:
find me scary

That is kinda scary I wouldnt want random people to know where i am or even my friends sometimes
[G1 General] rantrav:
cool non-market downloads and for itunes

http://www.g1tube.com/messages/view/XH62QQXNNWGZ7393

This guys goes into some pretty cool stuff I dont have itunes myself but im sure a lot of you have!!!.....;)
[G1 General] punkzanyj:
I checked with OpenOffice and they pretty much say "it was hard enough porting it to Mac, no way" That's not a quote, but they basically said that it would be way too much work and that OOO is not designed to be used with a touchscreen and rearranged keyboard.

I can't imagine it would be that hard, the office software for WM6 is very very basic, it's not like a full version of office software, but it does cover most of the features you need for word, excel, and ppt. I mean, if Google can get a word/excel combo online for free....dunno.

Seems like to me that google will bring the goods. They've been doing it all along, I can't imagine them not building mobile versions of their most popular apps. You can download a google docs app for your PC, same thing with picasa, I don't think it will be that long before more Android ports shows up on the horizon, it just makes sense.
[G1 General] beartard:
I don't care about Microsoft support. I was word-processing and making spreadsheets before Office came around and will be long after Office is a page in the history books. I do understand that business users are likely shackled to MS software...but then, the G1 was never really meant to be a business phone.

Some kind of word processor/spreadsheet/presentation software should and probably will be made for the phone, but likely wouldn't be free in any sense of the word. Office software takes a lot more work to code than brick-breaker apps.

But having said that, OOO is the last thing I'd want on a phone. The thing's slow enough on a PC. Android needs something written for Android, that takes advantage of the OS and the hardware, and that is a breeze to use.
[G1 General] spicypixel:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/

Its more likely this will be ported to android than most others, they have a Pocket PC and a linux client, so they have a working knowledge of both systems.
[G1 General] haitiankid4lyf:
this thread is just for posting software ideas or links to software for the G1.
[G1 General] haitiankid4lyf:
just to start it off:

1. an on screen keyboard

2. mp3 trimmer

3. video recorder/player
[G1 General] beartard:
Since 2 and 3 are already there, we can focus on 1. ;)
[G1 General] haitiankid4lyf:
where???? on the phone i dont see them

or available to download if they are can you post link?
[G1 General] beartard:
They're still updating the marketplace for the launch on Wednesday. Anything downloaded before today will have to be re-downloaded, I think. But they're putting up the new apps slowly. There is a video player in the marketplace as well as an mp3 trimmer for ringtones. Be patient. They're there. ;)
[G1 General] warwolfx0:
how about tracking in Google maps(this drives me nuts)

3d view in Google maps (not really need but would be cool)

a digital clock (i have a digital phone, need a digital clock, what next an Abacus instead of a calculator)

phone debug drivers

better battery status while charging

a way to shut off the screen lock(2 button need to be pressed to unlock phone)

folders in the main menu

the ability to bind weather app in home page (maybe in the wallpaper)

a GPS status program

a better comm manager
[G1 General] papito2181:
1. file explorer

2. mms capable of sending gifs and videos like 3gp

3. picture viewer capable of seeing gifs

4. rss thread reader

5. sim manager

6. task manager

7. better ui throughout (it's confusing, lacks continuity, and needs some serious cleaning up - ex. where the hell is the sms draft folder?)
[G1 General] djnutz:
Emphasis on number 4, 5, 6, along with a simple to-do list unless I'm missing something.
[G1 General] warwolfx0:
the top bar acts like a task manager

but a end task would be better
[G1 General] Valicore:
Task manager? Hold down the home button, it will pop up. There isn't a folder afaik for Drafts, it will just have the message name + "draft" when u go to send a msg. What do you mean by SIM manager?
[G1 General] papito2181:
Holding down the Home button only lets u switch ur tasks. I want to be able to close apps. Seeing as battery life sucks, i would like the choice to close apps that run in the backround to conserve energy

I see what your saying about Drafts. But that's when u back out of a message while creating it. What happened with me was i was sending a text while i had no signal (mind u it had two bars onscreen), so a notification and thumb press later it said "saved to drafts" or something along those lines. I'm still looking for those texts as we speak.

-edit: I looked into the user manual about this, now either the message did not save or i'm not really sure what happened here. Hopefully someone else's experience with this will shed light on it.

As for SIM manager, only option they give (as far as i've seen) is a SIM contacts importer, which i think is totally unacceptable. SIM manager manages your contacts directly on the SIM, such as editing names and numbers. Another major issue i see, there doesn't seem to be a way to save contacts to SIM, WTF?! I'm sorry i'm actually discovering this in real time, seeing as they saw fit to have the user manual online only. No mention of saving to SIM card whatsoever.

Seems like my Wing is gonna remain by my side till HTC or Google or someone else fixes these things. Why they weren't included i'll never know
[G1 General] Ryanmo5:
Correct me if im wrong though i thought they replaced sim manager with the ability to save all contacts and calendar info to your gmail account so that you never lose anything. You sign in to gmail and it loads all the info on your phone. To me this is better than a sim manager because its not eating up space on your phone with another program. I'm sure this was one of the main reasons google got involved seeing how the phone is run through their services. Still i'm sure one will be in market very soon.
[G1 General] OminousPrime:
I am hoping for a screenshot utility.