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[Redmi Note 10] MrCrayon:
@bomberb17

Can you post a screenshot of your wifi configuration covering your username?
[Redmi Note 10] bomberb17:
My configuration is as follows:

Proxy: None

IP settings: DHCP

Privacy: Use device MAC (have also tried random MAC)

Advanced options:

EAP method: PEAP

Phase 2 authentication: MSCHAPV2

CA certificate: Use system certificate

Online Certificate Status: Do not validate

Domain: yyy.zzz

Username: xxx@yyy.zzz

Password: password
[Redmi Note 10] MrCrayon:
I don't know if that's the problem for you but the "Do not validate" is the problem with Android 11 update.

Don't you have a certificate to set there?
[Redmi Note 10] bomberb17:
So there are 3 more options for this setting: "Request certificate status" , "Require certificate status" and "Require all non-trusted certificate status". I tried selecting all three and I get same behavior. In the CA certificate I see an "eduroam_WPA_EAPIEEE8021X_PEAP..." certificate but even if I manually select this I get the same problem. The other thing is that even if I select any of these settings and connection fails again, when I go back to advanced options then the original settings are selected. Not sure if this is normal or not.
[Redmi Note 10] MrCrayon:
Make sure you have installed the correct root CA certificate from your University

Forget network

Set everything again with "Require certificate status" and select your university CA certificate

🤞
[Redmi Note 10] bomberb17:
So the university IT department sent me the CA certificate, and I manually installed it to my phone.

So I do this, i.e forget network, go to advanced options, enter my credentials, select "Require certificate status" and select the university CA certificate. Connection does not happen, same exact behavior.

But the strange thing is that when I go into the advanced options again, the CA certificate is again set to "Use system certificate" and the online certificate status to "Do not validate". So the settings do not persist for some reason.
[Redmi Note 10] SubwayChamp:
Probably you can ask other members from the university if they also are facing same issues, you can take a look in the exact configuration they are using and compare with your device configuration.

Also, from the official releases, are available newer versions than 12.5.4, maybe it solves it, in case is a real bug.

And one more thing, switching to a different region based firmware may make a difference, due to restrictions and policies that can state for specific region.
[Redmi Note 10] bomberb17:
Problem is that this is a university in the US where everyone has Apple and Samsung phones, noone else has Xiaomi phone.

I updated my phone to 12.5.5 last week and issue persists. Maybe Android 12 upcoming update will solve this?

And I don't want to switch region firmware just to experiment, my phone was connecting fine with global ROM until a few months ago..
[Redmi Note 10] SubwayChamp:
Settings must have some similarities.

You can try the Miui 13 leaked, although was not publicly released, is available to try it.

I thought in case you live in some specific region where a firmware is available like Indonesia/India/Russia but for US, Global it's fine.

Then you can take a look on which apps might produce this, in the way, a clean installation including wipe cache/Dalvik/Data and format data before upgrade must bring back what was running well, you can try factory resetting, then flashing the fastboot ROM in your case, not the recovery ROM.
[Redmi Note 10] bomberb17:
I would prefer not to take aggressive measures such as wiping data - factory resetting - installing beta ROMs etc. It is a pain and very time consuming to setup my phone and its apps from scratch, especially banking apps etc. I was hoping that those logs I posted could shed some light if someone more experienced than me could understand what's going on. Happy to provide more logs if needed
[Redmi Note 10] MrCrayon:
@bomberb17 you could try to do everything again, starting with forget network, and check if anything changed in the logs.

As @SubwayChamp said it's worth a try to compare settings with another android phone and maybe compare logs to see where is the difference.
[Redmi Note 10] bomberb17:
So I got my hands on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 8, running latest stock ROM, which is Android 11.

I tried to connect to eduroam and had the *exact* same behavior. Unfortunately the phone was not rooted so I could not get logs, but I am 100% sure that the logs would be identical to those I posted above for my phone.

I also tested with an old Mi Pad 4 tabled I had lying around (running Lineage OS 17 w Android 10) and it connected with no problems.

Any help appreciated.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Quincofish:
I have a Samsung Galaxy SM-T813 tablet with Android 9 on it. Is there any way to update it to more recent Android versions?
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[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Tommy054:
Hi folks,

I decided to purchase a 7pro sprint since the imei is clean and eligible, and expected that i can just press the unlock button like what happened to my other Tmobile phones.

Unfortunately it is not!

When i talk to the customer care from Sprint, they said info of original owner is a must, which is odd to me, a guy who buy it from Ebay :( the seller also said it is their reselling bussiness, so they had no idea.

I did use stock sprint rom, then converted to EU version, both does not help unlocking the sim. And I am in Vietnam,that make the unlocking more difficult.

Is there anyone kindly help me to short out how to make it sim unlock ? Any dm to share link, guidance is very helpful

Thank you so much.
[G1 Android Development] OmniMoAK:
Question about Multi Touch

First off I dont have a G1 (mostly due to the I get no coverage in my office in NYC)

To my knowledge the G1/Dream can use multitouch but is not used due to legal reasons (iPhone)

So heres question since the google has released the source code, can a programmer make multitouch and apply it over programs like Compas over google maps?

Google releasing source code:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/21/google-opens-the-floodgates-open-sources-android/
[G1 Android Development] dagentooboy:
that would be really cool... but I don't think it will be that easy... I might be wrong though.
[G1 Android Development] graey:
Further more, it seems nearly impossible for Apple to stand any ground in court, as both the gestures and the hardware were available before Apple crammed it into a device (thinking Jeff Han, Microsoft Surface, Microsoft Research's Multitouchpad (which is not actually a multitouch display, but more a multitouchpad, much like the ones in Apple Macbooks), and probably more). I do however think it would be a smart move for Google to perfect the Android base operating system, release it, having people drool over it, and then finish the multitouch interface and just provide it as a casual update, having people drool just that tad more that you would think to need to actually overwhelm the remaining iPhone users (apart from the Apple-believers who will never 'surrender').
[G1 Android Development] syrusfrost:
The screen type is the same as the IPhone.
[G1 Android Development] dan0zone:
It is the same touch screen ...but. y do. Some people want multitouch ???? I don't get it I thought that using ur device with one hand or even better one finger was the goal
[G1 Android Development] syrusfrost:
Personally I like single touch, I was just pointing out an erroneous statement. The hardware is there, it is an IP issue.
[G1 Android Development] OmniMoAK:
But if someone makes an api/cab/arm/whatever releases it as freeware on the internet who can Apple go after? isohunt/rapidshare/hundreds of hundreds of web hosting sites on the net?

BTW multi touch on a touchpad on a laptop is possible on the EEE pc same manufacturer as Macs so its not apple's IP. Multitouch is also possible on winmo there is a program that uses it for the kaiser but it has no use at all.
[G1 Android Development] neva dinova:
what progam is that
[G1 Android Development] syrusfrost:
Shoot if you write one send it to me, I'll spam it anonymously and spread it so hard and fast Apple wont be able to get it taken down till it's all over the android scene. I can get it out without revealing myself ;)

U stolz my multi-touch!? O noes!
[G1 Android Development] Byte_76:
Multitouch

I Googled around a bit and came across a couple of sites that reported that the G1 hardware does in fact support multitouch but as mentioned the software does not include the feature because it would result in legal action by Apple. There were Youtube videos with demonstrations that proved the hardware was capable of it. sorry, can't remember the address of the site.

Lets hope somebody adds this feature as a plug-in very soon!
[G1 Android Development] haroonie:
Actually the in the touch diamond and pro although the screen is not capacitive the wheel area is.. on the g1 the whole screen is capacitive like the iphone so the technology is there.

hopefully the technology is utilized some time soon, i dont know the specifics on the iphone patent, but i doubt if any one developer would be interested in the legal ramifications. open it up and see what others can do.

check out a multitouch vid here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Owgcos_KY
[G1 Android Development] benmyers2941:
That would be sweet. The apple patent is (I believe) just an application at this point. Besides even if they get one it would be BS and I'd have no problem violating it. Actually I wouldn't care if it was legit, I'd still violate it if I could.

Now we just have to wait for someone, smarter than me for sure, to figure out if it can be done and make a driver for it.
[G1 Android Development] rorydaredkign:
but apple didnt invent multi touch, its like saying only the first manufacturer to use a touchscreen could use it, if anyone else did they would get sued
[G1 Android Development] Byte_76:
More confirmation of the G1 hardware capability of multitouch!

http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f7/some-good-videos-on-engaget-of-g1-multi-touch-confirmed-708/
[G1 Android Development] haroonie:
agreed. i believe apple is only filing for an application patent on the 'pinch' feature to zoom in on the iphone.

forget that, i want the g1 app to let me make up my own multi touch gesture to zoom in! imagine "swirling" your finger on the screen to zoom in and out at different %'s, that'd be crazy
[G1 Android Development] enjoijams:
I want to be able to point twice (double click type gesture) to zoom in.

Those zoom buttons are bugging the hell out of me. Multi touch would also be nice.
[G1 Android Development] dagentooboy:
you have my vote on the multitouch... is it part of the source? can we just recompile android with multitouch? or would it be a kernel level thing?
[G1 Android Development] jcostantino:
Apple patented the GESTURES "pinch" and "spread" on a handheld device, there isn't any reason you can't have multitouch hardware or multitouch in the OS, you just can't use pinch and spread.

At least that's how it was explained to me.
[G1 Android Development] OmniMoAK:
so its just he gestures??

ok this is going to be hard to explain, but here goes:

then how about one finger stays static (bottom left or right) and the other go out wards (think bow and arrow movement for resizing)

But again if multi touch could get written into the OS/apps I really doubt anyone of would care about Apple patents, just be sure to spam the world with download sites so word gets out.
[G1 Android Development] punkzanyj:
One problem. Killswitch.

Google mentioned they have the ability to remove apps, and will do so at their discretion. This is mostly in place to protect us from malicious software. If a multitouch app is released, and Apple finds out, and Apple is able to successfully get an injunction... they could force Google to use the killswitch to remove it.
[G1 Android Development] robak03:
i just want a double click to zoom...and something to zoom out in the browser.

how about a triple click zoom...double click zoom out.... its different than the iphones...and the pinch is, frankly, pretty homo i think. how do you comfortably one hand a pinch with the same hand you are holding the phone with?? nice gimmick though.
[G1 Android Development] nanek921:
2 finger zoom

How about two fingers on the screen moving up is zoom in moving down is zoom out. The zoom button is annoying. Hell i'd love a alt plus trackball to be used as a zoom mechanism.
[G1 Android Development] AbsoluteDesignz:
True...but what if it is uploaded on an external server and downloaded without googles permission...they can't get google to do ****.
[G1 Android Development] nxt:
I made a video showing that the T-Mobile G1 DOES support multi-touch, just needs software to support it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urICBOt8wc8

Here's another video using the Browser Zoom Video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJRXXQBK5xY

Ok here's the 3rd video.

I think this one is the best one!

I touch an icon with one finger, then i use another finger to drag it out of the first finger, then i move both fingers to move the icon around!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Rb4q4Fm5E
[G1 Android Development] tokomoto:
Seems like it but I am not really sure. Hopefully it is, if so great discovery!
[G1 Android Development] surur:
You get the same averaging behaviour with resistive screens.

Surur
[G1 Android Development] ridli:
i can do the same with a S200 and isnt multi-touch.
[G1 Android Development] cunter:
As far as i know, on htc devices if you press to places the driver takes the middle of a line between both places
[G1 Android Development] robak03:
Or maybe a spin finger action...spin clockwise to zoom...counter to zoom out...
[G1 Android Development] ponylove:
Gestures

One could easily skirt any legal issues by having a program called, let's say, "Gestures", where the user could associate a multi-touch gesture of choice with an action like zooming. Apple can't police every single one of us.
[G1 Android Development] speoples20:
From rumors that I have heard is that apple patented the multi touch jestures and google couldnt use them with out paying apple. Not sure if its true but thats what I heard. Anyways multi touch isnt that big a deal and more of a gimic imo.
[G1 Android Development] syrusfrost:
Even if they did, It would be repacked and re-released privately.
[G1 Android Development] demontefixo:
Seems to me I was gesturing, pinching, spreading... long before Apple existed. Giving them a patent on how I can use my hand is stupid.

--M

(And I like Apple...)
[G1 Android Development] graey:
Prior art anyone? As I mentioned before, Microsoft Surface did pinching and spreading in software way before Apple came with the iPhone, and so did Jeff Han. And it can't be that dumping this idea on a mobile device is such a unique invention they should be granted a patent that stands in court?
[G1 Android Development] punkzanyj:
From what I understand the killswitch applies to ANY app installed on the phone. Doesn't matter if you got it from somewhere else.
[G1 Android Development] chefgon:
Do you have a source to back up that claim? I am almost positive that you are mistaken on this one.
[G1 Android Development] ranger7424:
I think this may have been coverred in Googles legal statement on the phone, but not sure havent read through all that yet.
[G1 Android Development] demontefixo:
Good thing you are just almost positive...because you'd be wrong.

http://www.physorg.com/news143475970.html

;)

--M
[G1 Android Development] punkzanyj:
All I had to do was google "Android Killswitch" and found it in less than a minute:

http://www.computerworld.com/action...&articleId=9117279&taxonomyId=18&pageNumber=1

Quote from article:

" Google expressly says that it might remotely remove an application from a user's phone. "Google may discover a product that violates the developer distribution agreement ... in such an instance, Google retains the right to remotely remove those applications from your device at its sole discretion," the terms, linked to from the phone, read."

While this is listed as part of the terms for the Android Market, I don't see why it would be limited to Android Market apps. The other aim of this killswitch is to protect users from malware.

We would need a lawyer specializing in data/computer systems to tell us for

sure whether or not Google can be forced to killswitch an app on Android phones, but I was merely bringing up the possibility based on available information.
[G1 Android Development] benmyers2941:
There is plenty of speculation over the potential of the killswitch, but the fact is that we

do not

know for sure yet.

The lawyers can debate weather or not it is something that should be applied to market applications or not. I would think not, since the language regarding removal of applications is only in the market not the SDK and applications can be distributed outside of the market. Even android itself is based on other open source licenses, mostly Apache, that Google does not own or control. In this laymans opinion the do not, as far as I can see, have the right to remove applications that I've installed outside the store.

So that leaves us with the potential ability. Let's assume the ability is there for Google to remove any application at whim, no matter how it got there. First they have to be aware of the app, so it'd have to be really popular and something that is in direct violation of a copyright or somethings. Like a NES emulator, they're "illegal" and still not hard to find for many platforms. So, the developer releases their NES emulator, everyone get it, and Nintendo leans on Google to kill it. The killswitch would have to be very specific: looking at author, signature, version, etc. If the first version is killed, the developer just has to make a small change to his source and it would be back up. Then would begin a loop of kill and release. If the developer released the source then everyone could have a slightly different version the likelihood of killing every one would be next to impossible.

This is all assuming that the Android community has developed enough to create ban worthy applications without ever discovering how the killswitch works and disabling it.

In the end I say; let Google forcibly remove stuff I get from the market "for my own good", but I'd like to see them try to forcibly remove something not from the market and keep it gone.
[G1 Android Development] nick_karstedt:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it does:

http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=4480.0

Not sure how useful it would be, it's just kinda cool to play with. I'm sure someone will make an app that supports it. Probably a clone of some iPhone software. People seem to be fond of those for some reason.
[G1 Android Development] ckthunda:
That isnt multi-touch at all.
[G1 Android Development] sfdteam:
LOOOOOOL, calm down guys, I can assure you that G1 has no multi-touch capabilities. Multi-touch should be supported on the hardware level. That G1 is no multi-touch doesn't say that Android cannot support this. It say only that HTC decided to not gear G1 with this feature. They might bring it in another models.

Now to the videos. The author creates disturbances when he touches the screen in multiple points with two fingers simultaneously. The touch screen matrix sends distorted signals about the X-Y positions of touches. The touch screen driver need in the very pessimistic scenario to stop process the signal as it cannot identify the right position of the finger. But it does try thought to calculate a position and puts the invisible pointer in this calculated position. Depending on driver's algo it might be the middle point between two fingers (in Windows Mobile case) or somewhere else or jumping from one finger to another...
[G1 Android Development] ckthunda:
No reason for LOL the majority of us are aware that there was no multi touch from the beginning hence why so many people were saying just no
[G1 Android Development] jriley60:
?

isn't it some what multi touch when you crop an image? :confused: // :nevermind i just looked again and saw how it works /fail lol
[G1 Android Development] ichigoismyhomie:
http://www.fastcompany.com/news/2008/10/31-apple-patent-bilski-case.html

read the article above. with the new decision, apple "multi-touch" patent might be nullified and google could possible integrate multi touch on G1 phone
[G1 Android Development] tks989:
i heard tha multitouch is in fact in the hardware but just isn't utilized as yet
[G1 Android Development] foltz61:
I knew the G1 didn't have multi-touch when I ordered mine. Coincidentally, my neighbor got an Iphone the day before my G1 arrived and asked if I could help him figure things out. After using multitouch, I hope the G1 does eventually get this feature. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I am also looking forward to an on-screen keyboard for short messages and hopefully a special areas allocated for the currently selected app to add keys to the keyboard if needed.
[G1 Android Development] RyeBrye:
T-mobile G1 DEFINITELY has a Multitouch capable screen - (PROOF)

The video proof other people were pointing to earlier is hardly proof at all, since the multitouch stuff is disabled in the driver currently.

I have, however, recompiled my kernel and turned back on the multitouch stuff (it's just commented out - how nice of them :) ) - and re-enabled the debugging logs for the screen touches.

I posted about it on my blog here:

http://www.ryebrye.com/blog/2008/11/17/proving-the-g1-screen-can-handle-multi-touch/

I included links to the debugging logs that show what happens when you touch with 2 fingers and move them around... etc.
[G1 Android Development] Gary13579:
Very nice to see some definite proof. Now to see if Apples patents can actually hold up on something so stupid like this.
[G1 Android Development] RyeBrye:
Hmm... Good point. I hope they don't sue ME for enabling it on my own phone :)

Mulitouch is such an obvious thing it is a shame it can be patented.
[G1 Android Development] momentarylapseofreason:
Awesome to see!

Now how about some software that utilizes it? haha...
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
The file isn't located at drivers/input/keyboard/synaptics_i2c_rmi.c

It is located at drivers/input/touchscreen/synaptics_i2c_rmi.c

Little typo... or they changed it on you LOL

I found proof that it wasn't Apple who created Mutlitouch... but the company that makes their screens... Synaptics (I believe) was the one who has patented a way of doing multitouch... of course that doesn't mean you can't have multitouch through other means but the hardware itself is theirs and theirs alone.
[G1 Android Development] WhatzinyourphonE:
Very interesting. They "Google" probably left that in their knowing someone would find that. I give this a week or shorter before this surfaces and it becomes a big deal. See other phones can have multi-touch screens!
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
The git is amazing... you wouldn't believe the stuff I have found but I just can't really decifer it all... like look at the bluetooth sources... it looks like other profiles are already coded.

There are tons of stuff that are finished but still need to be enabled... I just wish I could compile my own version.
[G1 Android Development] hetaldp:
wow !!! now we want root again again to build new drivers and try it
[G1 Android Development] RyeBrye:
like what?

What kind of other stuff? Why can't you compile your own?