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[Vivo X70 Pro+] MasterThiefGarrett:
Got it today as well, played around with it a bit, would be cool if we could (finally) unlock that bootloader, and I don't mean by removing the back and shorting pins or something like that ;)

PS I'm in the Netherlands as well
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Great news !

What device came in ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] MasterThiefGarrett:
Actually I picked it up, but it's the 12+4GB, 512GB Chinese version.

Any tips of what I definitely should or should NOT do with it?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Piskr already posted a good list with apps that can safely be removed.

On youtube there is also a movie in german on how to install the Playstore.

I would start with that.

I assume you picked up the Black X70 Pro+ that was for sale in Eersel ...
[Vivo X70 Pro+] MasterThiefGarrett:
Yes, that one.

I already saw a couple of vids on YT and stuff, so gmail, play store etc is all on there, uninstalling the .pem and all that I've seen it (not done it yet) and just configuring stuff here and there, just wondering if there's small stuff I should adjust (stuff that people somehow overlook, little things)
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Hamzah0101:
How did you get rid of those? When I try to uninstall com.vivo.magazine for example I get this error: [delete failed user restricted]
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
There must be something wrong with the syntax or the procedure. Make sure to enable usb debugging under the phone developer settings. Then get the correct names of the apps (app inspector is one of good tools). Activate adb like adb devices, and you must see the device code. Switch to fastboot and trigger fastboot devices again.

Use the method described here: https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/ and check the syntax. Two - - must contain the right font and the right spaces.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] AMDFenics:
same here mate :

D:\ADB>adb shell

PD2145:/ $ pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.vivo.magazine

Failure [DELETE_FAILED_USER_RESTRICTED]

1|PD2145:/ $

I think it's OceanOS related.... Softwareversion PD2145B_A_5.13.3
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Hamzah0101:
Well, I was able to delete most of them but some of the packages like magazine and carlauncher couldn't be deleted because of restricted errors.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Magazine should go. Carlauncher is not important cause it never triggers anything inn the west.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Hey man, juust finished setting up the phone and will tweak during the coming days. But overall I feel very happy with the phone! Battery life is way better on this one. I charged it up too 100% before I started, 2 hours later I was at 82%. And that is with the screen on constant installing apps etc. It takes some time with new phones as always but I feel OriginOs is a very pleasant launcher, A LOT of customizing in there. I have not yet found out to show RAM when you pull upp recent apps but that is for another day.

All banking apps etc works like any other android phone, it was some bloat apps that I disabled over ADB and also uninstall in the phone too see what it was before. Can't say yet as of notifications beacuase no one has contacted me yet haha. But I removed vivo.pem and going to try and leave all apps to the "auto optimize power" and see how it reacts over the days.

I think you can pull the trigger on that order =)
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Great news bro !! Sounding great.

I was a bit afraid for the batterylife as most reviews said it wasn't all that great.

On what Android version is it ?

Was the playstore preinstalled ?

How is that huge fingerprint sensor, it's supposed to be the bomb !

I would also like to hear your opinion on the speakers.

Could you keep track of what you disable and the major mods your doing. Could save me time and prevent me to re-invent the wheel.

Can't wait !
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Its on android 12.

Playstore was pre/installed. The fingerprint sensor is the fastest I have ever tried, even with newly washed hands it recognize the print. My oppo never works with that.

Speakers are ok, they lack a little bass but for phone speakers i would say average.

The only thing I havent found is to activate App icons on the AOD display for example you get a whatsapp notification and you can see a little green icon under the clock so you know that you got the message without unlocking the phone. Anyone have idea?

Just ask If you want to know more!
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Sorry to hear about the speakers, i am a bit spoiled with my ROG2 i guess but pretty much all devices will be somwhat of a downgrade in the speakers.

I hope you can get the notifications to work on the lockscreen. The lockscreen i have on the ROG is kinda useless as it has AOD but only displays a clock and nothing else so i am used to it. However the notification LED, which it still has, makes up a bit for it.

I truely hope you can make it work.

What did you mean by you could not pull out RAM ?

Are there many ways to setup the gestures ? I eould prefer to set them as my last phone so it doesnt take me ways to relearn them.

Did you play with the camera ?

Did you also use some of the Google apps like Youtube, Google maps, Gmail, etc.. They work fine ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
The notifcations on lock screen work that is no problem. It is the app icons on the AOD display I am missing under the clock when you have notifications. Nitpicky but oh well..

The ram is when you pull up the recent apps, usually androids have a toggle for showing how much ram is used atm in that section. Nitpicky.

There is a lot of gestures you can set up In the menus for example drawing on lock screen to open specific apps and also customize holding in different buttons to open up this and that. I dont use that but the options are there.

Camera so far is alright, took some pictures now in the dark, HDR images are very clear and good. Have not tried a lot but it is good so far.

youtube, gmail and maps works as usual.

Notications overall have been a little fonky today but they seem to start working better.

I had 2 software updates yesterday and also another one today that was gonna fix battery drain in certain cenarios they said among other things. I know my other phones were always a bit weird right after software updates but Ima give it a couple of days and see how it works out.

I found some AOD apps that you can enable notifications on AOD but I didnt get them to work, nitpicky stuff hehe
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Update; Intermittent/No notifications for Gmail/Facebook messenger/Snapchat.

Whatsapp seems to work.

Vivo.pem is uninstalled. All social apps allowed to autostart etc.

Even locked them in the Ram in recent apps. Still misses notifications...

If this continues I think its a big dealbreaker sadly
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Thanks for the update.

Do you mean you don't see notifications on top of the screen (icons) ?

I can live with no AOD notifications, but no notifications on the lockscreen and especially in the homescreen on the top is indeed garbage.

I can't imagine they would suppress this on purpose so there must be some sort of a setting or service that needs to be activated.

Or do you think Google services notifications are being suppressed ?

Whatsapp works and thats from Meta (Facebook) so anything from that same family should work.

Google family notifications not working would be a true bummer indeed.

When you swipe down on the home screen you don't see them either ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Facebook Messenger sometimes makes the phone vibrate when someone send a message. But does not pop on either top of home screen or lock screen.

Snapchat I had a few snaps that you only see when you open the app "3 hours ago". Does not work at all.

Gmail seems to be delayed/on-off working its very strange.

I have checked all settings probably 10 times now but they are all set up the same 100% sure of that.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Makes no sense ... Why would the notification system be so broken or buggy ?

It's a regular part of Android, so i don't know why this is so different.

It would take a lot of fun out of the device if this stays like this.

are you having the same issues @piskr ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Don't use snapchat and facebook. But with my 2 mails (Gmail and a corporate mail) all the notifications are accurate. Considering that according to settings, mails might delay for 5 minutes. Messages and Signal notifications are accurate as well.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Yes its very weird, I started a Return process with TradingShenzhen so its going back. Its a shame when everything else is good.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Dutch-Vivo:
Sorry to hear that. But they are too expensive to just hold on to and not get the full value out of it. No point in having a device that annoys you daily.

No need for me to look at any Vivo device at this moment neither.

Will have to be patient and see what Asus brings out this year or maybe Xiaomi will come with something capable after the boring 12 Pro.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Eric-Mod:
Has someone maybe figured out, how to replace the original "iMusic" app with for example Poweramp? Like, when I get in my car and want to play Music via bluetooth, it starts everytime this chinese player instead of Poweramp. Already changed the standard app setting. Any Idea?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Set poweramp as a default music player and uninstall imusic.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Eric-Mod:
Yes, that indeed sounds like a plan, but I'm not able to uninstall imusic because deleting seems restricted through ADB shell.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Notification system is closely connected with power management. Are you sure that you did all adjustments regarding settings and adb uninstallment?

Like I said, I don't use Facebook nor its derivates, but every other notifications work just fine .
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Eric-Mod:
I can agree with this. If you select the right settings, notifications are on point. I even get my Telegram Notifications earlier than on my iPhone.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Yes I checked everything probably over 15 times, Notifications for each app: All Switches On. Including Autostart.

All social apps put into "High Background drain allowed". Locked the apps in RAM on recent page. Every setting is on.

Checked vivo.pem a few times even installing it again and uninstalled.

Reinstalled social media apps and put same settings on again etc. Its weird instagram seems to work and also whatsapp. The other ones are on/off or nothing at all 🤔
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
I just can't understand. There are some others in this forum who repeat saying: I can't do this, I don't have that...Strange. Like we have different phones.

Do you have an account with Vivo? A few apps demand verification with Vivo in order to be removed. Maybe you can still use alternative music if you force stop the original one.

I can only say that I use VLC for music and movies and I have notifications on the lock and home screen and otion to regulate music from notifications as well. Here is the snapshot from my setting showing that I have both system music and video uninstalled for primary user.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Eric-Mod:
I had the same Problem with outlook, all I did was a restart of the phone, since then outlook worked as it should. But I guess you already did that :unsure:
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Robsjo:
Yep did that :)
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Eric-Mod:
Some apps are restriced in some way, I dont know. I solved it using an app called "Bluetooth Connect and Play" on the play store and it works fine for me. But thanks anyways :cool:
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Eric-Mod:
Thats indeed weird. I mean its a pain in the ass with setting everytime these settings but, once I ticked everything On and turned on High Backgroung Consumption (or whatever its called) and maybe restarted phone, everything is working fine. Like I said, notifications come in very fast and on point in comparison to my iPhone. Maybe resetting the phone could be a solution, but I know thats a lot of time wasting there. :censored:

Edit : Tradingshenzhen told me via Email they are going to write a How-To for Vivo phones with setting everything up right soon.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Killuminati91:
A lot of ADB uninstalled apps return after a while - this is really shady. I have not even rebooted the phone in days,

but day after day another app reinstalls itself on my phone...
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piggyvir:
I would like to ask how to remove the system launcher? Very keen to use Nova but it keeps on going back to the system default
[Vivo X70 Pro+] mr2kqql:
I am having the same problem as well after the system update. Was using nova as default launcher, suddenly after the system update I no longer able to set nova as default launcher. Every time I set it to default as soon as you touch the home button it goes back to Ocean every time.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
To change the default launcher you have to make a Vivo account and set in Security/More security setting/Replace systen launcher "Allow the launcher to be replaced".
[Vivo X70 Pro+] mr2kqql:
Oh well, this is my 3rd vivo phones and of course I had that done already since new. Like I said it was working fine before the system update.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] mr2kqql:
This is what I am experiencing. No matter what I do as soon as you hit the home button it will go back to Ocean.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Try to remove and under apps disable all widgets that derive from Vivo and not 3party apps. Then set the launcher again.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] mr2kqql:
Yes, tried and still no dice. Really don't want to do a factory reset.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Look, there is only one rationale behind your issue. If we have exactly the same hardware and the same system, then the reason that the custom launcher works for me and for you doesn't, must have one of two causes: either your system is somehow broken (HW or SW) or your settings are different from mine.

And there are ton of settings under home screen, lock screens and wallpapers; dynamic effects, shortcuts and accessibility, security...

It's impossible for me or anyone else remotely guesses what is the exact reason for your failure. First, you must have the system launcher installed. Second try with the launcher, which works for me (Star - it's a free version with adds). If you fail with this launcher too, then the problem lies in settings. If not, then the Nova launcher doesn't suit Origin OS.

In the first case, you should review your settings one by one. You are gonna succeed by trial and error method. Like everyone else. Try to eliminate as much Ocean specialities as possible.

I know that any Origin feature might be a reason for failure. When I tried Origin calendar widget with the custom launcher, the home screen had blinked a few times, then switched to the Origin launcher.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Theofucius:
Hi all.

Iam using vivo x70 pro plus from February 2022.

Overall is fantastic.

Camera is the best so far but not much people know (underdog).

I encounter few problems,

Maybe can help

1. App clone

2. Whatsapp notification and voice call no notification (setting all on already)

3. Gmail laggy notifications and sometimes no notifications.

Are you guys encounter the same problems?

Is there any solution?

Tried vivo support, but dont have answer.

Hopefully we all doing good.

Thanks
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
Chinese version?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Theofucius:
Yes
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
So:

- App clone is not possible for non chinese app

- for notification you have to remove/disable com.vivo.pem with adb process (check the other posts for a walkthrough).
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Theofucius:
Ok bro.

Thanks
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Theofucius:
Hi maxant69, do you have the tutorial how to disable com.vivo.pem?

Thanks
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
Check this post

https://xdaforums.com/t/background-power-consumption-management-not-working.4411723/
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Theofucius:
Thanks
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
Can you install and use Google Assistant and use "OK Google" voice commands on Origin OS Ocean?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
No voice activation as Google Play Services framework is customized
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
Thank you for your reply. I assume the Jovi Assistant only works with Chinese voice commands? I am so used to giving voice commands (to dial numbers, send text messages, make reservations, etc.), that I think I would miss this functionality on Origin OS Ocean.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
Jovi is only Chinese.

Google Assistant works but you must active it using the icon.

On chinese devices these google features won't work :

- voice activation

- android auto

- backup

- maps location track history.

The problem is related to their Chinese counterparts (Jovi, vivo apps, baidu) which cannot be used by non Chinese people
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Husskeyy:
Hello.

Could you kindly let me know what you mean by "backup"?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
Google backup of the phone (apps, phone/sms records....)
[Vivo X70 Pro+] mr2kqql:
Oh well. you know what, the most recent updates finally fixed the bugs and I can choose any launchers as I want just like before. As much as I love this phone, I might upgrade to the X Note or X80.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Husskeyy:
These phones seem awesome. :)

I do use Google Assistant for voice stuff quite frequently, so not having that is a bit of a disappointment.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
You should try to get a global model from India if you can. Then you should have a full working Google phone (even Android Auto)
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Husskeyy:
I'm actually looking at getting an IQOO 9. It's a great deal at the price it is in China. And the Chinese version is a completely different phone to the Indian one, haha!
[Vivo X70 Pro+] maxant69:
But same Google limitations.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Husskeyy:
Unfortunately, yes. Why didn't you get yours from India?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Husskeyy:
NFC works, right?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
NFC works, Google pay works. AS maxant69 already explained, everything but

- voice activation

- android auto

- backup

- maps location track history

works.

And I'm not sure about notifications for social networks like Facebook, Instagram...because I don't use them. Notifications for calls, sms, mail, Google phone, Signal works without problem.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Husskeyy:
Thank you. @maxant69 how has your experience been with the Android Auto accessory you bought? :)
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Tsunarun:
Hi. Can you tell me if you use message app from google and if you can send photos with it 👍👍👍👍
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Tsunarun:
John Wick thanks for this tuto. Please can you tell me if you are able to send photos with google message app ????
[Vivo X70 Pro+] JohnWick90:
Hi bro jo i didnt used the messaging app but i think if all google apps are working fine with all features then the messages app will also give u full support
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
Yes, photos send with the Google Messages app without any problem. The only issue with using Google Messages instead of the stock Vivo Messages app is that notifications for Google Messages don't show up if you have the phone set to dark mode. The solution is to enable 'chat bubbles' in the Google Messages settings, as they do show up in dark mode.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Tsunarun:
Can you send photos over 300kb to another person using google message too ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
No. The message size cap is set by your telecom and not by the phone or the software's limitations. All Canadian, and most U.S. carriers restrict MMS and chat message photographs to 300kb. To comply with that the default Vivo Messages app and the Google Messages app both compress your photos before sending them. If you want to send someone full quality images you need to go to Google Photos, click on the picture, click "share", select your Messaging app, and then choose "send link". That way they will get a link in their text message that allows them access to the uncompressed image on Google's servers.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Tsunarun:
Thanks for reply 👍I know the limitation but when I try to send picture to another person with RCS it's not possible. Any clues ? I have other phones with google message and they work fine but with my x70 pro+when I send a photo it stays on "sending" Any clue ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
Just to see if it is your phone or your mobile network, try switching your default messaging app from Android Messages to Vivo Messages and try to send the same picture you are having trouble with. If the picture sends then your phone and network are working properly and you can narrow the problem down to the Android Messages app. Have you cleared the data and cache for the app, tried force stop, etc.? Also, if you switch from RCS chat to MMS within Android Messages will the picture send? I can send to people who have RCS chat enabled (only available on Android Messages and Samsung Messages), but if they don't use those messaging apps, or if they do and they don't have RCS enabled in the app's settings then I can't send them a picture.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Tsunarun:
I will recieve the x80 pro soon. I will tell you if it works properly.

Which version you have ? Origin os or funtouch ?
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
Origin OS Ocean
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Tsunarun:
Thank you so much for the reply. May be android 12 fixed the problem
[Vivo X70 Pro+] Gianni:
Hi, I used a lot ADB 10+ years ago on rooted phones, now I have x50pro+ what can i do good with adb?

txs
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Remove bloatware.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Something weird happened after my last update. I'm now on PD2145_A_5.13.31. It's a trial version and man can expect glitches but anyway it hits me as a surprise. Namely, Google pay (NFC payment suddenly stops working). The reason supposed to be that my phone is either rooted, bootloader unlocked or has trial version of the system. It had a lot of trial OSes before and that problem never occurred.

What is strange, the device is still Google certified, SafetyNet totally passes, all other banks' app (EU ones which are usually more sensitive than Gpay) work flawlessly.

Therefore, I can't find out who is responsible for the failure, Vivo or Google. Hope that next upgrade is around the corner. On the other way, we all know that the old Gpay app is to be replaced with the Gwallet. And as Google tells me when I'm digging in the reason for the failure, it would happen soon, till the 15 of June.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
Just for information - GPay came back in about 3 days after failure. Thanks, Google and Vivo.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] frcraig:
There is a setting on my Vivo X Note (CN) Origin OS Ocean that I don't understand. If you open the i-dialer and go to the dots at the top right of the screen under Call Settings / Advanced Call Settings / Sim 1 you see IP Prefix, and a spot to enter an IP Prefix. What is an IP Prefix? It is blank by default.
[Vivo X70 Pro+] piskr:
I don't think it's anything useful. It's a link to a voip central (https://support.sasktel.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12155/~/understanding-your-ip-relay-number). But native sip is broken in Android quite a long.

Anyway, I believe your research is heading in the right direction. Why don't you go further? The first viable option is Google Voice. You can transfer your number to GV and pay nothing for calls to US and Canada. Though calls end in fixed telephony through a gateway, they start and end in your phone as data, and you eliminate an LTE 5G problem. And I think that you can also transfer your number back to the mobile operator if you wish so.

You can also choose from a variety of VOIP providers. I use Zadarma on per call billing (for a fraction of money) but there is no way that someone could call your original number (if I call the recipient, it sees my original number though). Calls are very reliable, without lag and crystal clear since they are VOIP.

But there are others, mostly from US, and if you pay per month you can also transfer your number to VOIP. And the price won't brake your budget (https://www.vonageforhome.com/personal/why-vonage/).

I guess, if you want to eliminate the obstacle, which comes with Vivo phone and at least temporally lack of VoLTE, you should look at your relationship with the operator differently. You can get calling support from elsewhere, all you need from an operator, is a decent data pack. Postpaid or prepaid, whatever comes cheaper.