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[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
My wife still has her P5 5G Android 12 and has zero issues. It's the hardware plain and simple. Some software stuff but all because the hardware is incompatible with whatever they're putting out. It shouldn't have been released as is. Give us the P6 without the Tensor and we all would have been happy. Upgraded phone from the P5, better mostly everything and then next year after a full year of testing release the Tensor if it's up to par on the P7. This is a disaster for Google and one of their own making. Mid January and everyone still on the November security patch is un-effing-acceptable. Don't sugar coat this, we basically became their testers although perhaps that's why it was so inexpensive.
[Google Pixel 6] android_dan:
It's not just hardware. If it were hardware the issues would be more consistent across the devices. I have two issues. Three system navigation locks up occasionally, and some times the screen doesn't go to sleep when it should. Besides that the phone works as well, if not better, than the last two OP I've had.
[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
It wouldn't necessarily be consistent if quality control was the culprit. Those flawed devices would have been pulled. Manufacturing would have been monitored. That was not done.
[Google Pixel 6] jonjadot:
I'm surprised at all the issues everyone is having. I have a locked bootloader, 256 GB international Pixel 6. I side loaded the international Dec. update. I have had 0 issues and the fingerprint unlock is now working much better. I'm not arguing people having issues, but I am inclined to believe it's not as wide spread as it appears to be. The Nexus/Pixel group is a very vocal group and tend to have more experience than users of other phones.
[Google Pixel 6] chaimav:
Either way, it is still rather embarrassing for Google's latest flagship devices to be stuck on the November security update in mid-January
[Google Pixel 6] nednednerb:
Something missing in a discussion about AI capable software on AI capable hardware is that the bugs might exist solely between software and hardware, such that as some said above the uncertainties of the tensor chip might be "patched" by software in a way that, for example, stops my P6P problems, mostly random restarts in interesting repeatable situations, like leaving my house and riding the bus. On the go I get restart after restart, then maybe 2 restarts in 10 hours at home.

I'm just saying, I hope "software fixes my hardware problems" or in other words, I hope the hardware issues in the more experimental chipset can be resolved without simply getting a replacement and tossing this device in the recycling bin.
[Google Pixel 6] el56:
I guess my mileage varied.

In Canada (Telus), nobody I know who owns a P6 (all non-Pro) has had any reception disruptions; either we were spared the broken update, it was fixed by the time it got to us, or it didn't affect Canadian frequencies. As I'm using a cheaper plan (on Telus' sub-brand Koodo) that doesn't do 5G, so nothing there has bit me either.

But I'm finding the benefits elsewhere.

To me, the AI is definitely more than a data-collecting marketing stunt (tho it certainly is that too). I've fallen in love with Magic Eraser. Voice-to-text (in both English and French) is staggeringly better than what I was used to before, to the point I barely use the keyboard anymore and will probably uninstall the Swiftkey I've been using for more the a decade. And I have used the on-the-fly translation function with very usable results. It's getting better over time as the input system gets tuned to my personal dictionary but it was already (IMO) incredible from first boot.

Also, the P6's use of an eSIM for its second SIM "slot" has already saved me significant cash when traveling. The deals for foreign mobile plans by companies using eSIMs were cheaper than the options I usually needed to do (I've settled on Ubigi). That may be a consideration for anyone who still wants to travel with their phone ... when that becomes possible again.

I made a similar upgrade with the opposite result. It's my OP5T that will be repurposed soon as a bedside alarm clock and music/podcast player. My secondary phone remains a Pixel 3a running GrapheneOS.

Still pissed off that they haven't made the fingerprint reader work reliably, and hoping that can be fixed in SW, but otherwise I've had little to complain about and much to like.

IIRC OnePlus was even worse, they'd tease updates many many months before delivery which was always delayed.

I've owned HTC, Sony, Samsung, Xiaomi, LG, Acer and Google ... and they all suck at updates. The only sure thing is that the Pixels will get Android upgrades before most other makers, this is (the) one area where Apple bests Android.
[Google Pixel 6] Nimueh:
If it isn't as widespread then why did Google stop the OTA rollout and then even delete the December update from their servers?

Just because YOUR device is fine doesn't mean everybody else's is too - here in Europe I'd say it's about 50/50 that have/had massive reception issues on the December update, me included.

With Oneplus nobody expected updates at every 1st Monday of the month - Google continues to do that with all Pixel devices BUT the P6 which desperately needs it to fix the issues.

Getting Android upgrades 1st just means we're the guinea pigs, after what Google has been pulling the last couple of months I fail to see how that's a good thing :p

For all you nonbelievers here I've attached 2 screenshots of the app Signal Strength - both P6, both taken at home, sitting at my desk. First one was taken after December update, 2nd one after I flashed the mid November radio.img. I have no idea what the numbers mean but the difference between "OK" and "Good" are obvious and also visible in the statusbar signal icon.

I still have massive problems with notifications. Whatsapp ones are a hit & miss, mostly miss (and yes, battery optimization for it are disabled and unrestricted background data is allowed) while K-9 emails generally do arrive. I have 2FA on my Google account so when I flash a new rom on the OP 5T (which I've been doing frequently lately) I get a authorisation request on my other devices. The Pixel doesn't get those at all, or in one case the next morning and another case 7 and a half HOURS later! I have to use the option to get a text message instead, which is very frustrating and annoying.

There definitely ARE issues ... if you don't have any then that's great, congrats! But please don't belittle or ridicule those of us that DO have them.

I just hope the highly anticipated January update, when it finally comes, does indeed fix our issues. I'm kinda tired of using a €600 phone mostly as a desk decoration :rolleyes:
[Google Pixel 6] From0toHero:
Apple is fashion accessory? Cmon mate don’t underestimate apple products. The iPhone 13 Pro Max is a terrific device. All in all it has the best battery life of any smartphone. The A15 runs cooler and has better performance than any Snapdragon or Exynos counterpart. I never value a device by its company, i value it by its quality, performance and endurance. If Samsung gives me a product with this attributes, i buy Samsung, if Apple delivers i buy Apple. I would never defend Samsung or Apple, because both just sell stuff. I value there products, but only if they are good and fulfilling my needs. In my opinion the iPhone 13 Pro Max outperforms the S21 Ultra in some aspects. But ITs also a newer device.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
Do you have a Pixel 6?

And what problems are you having with it?
[Google Pixel 6] 96carboard:
Well like you said, that's the US. While Americans mostly think that they are the center of the universe, the vast majority of humans do NOT live in the US or under US law.

Having said that, most civilized countries have anti-self-incrimination laws that would not protect biometrics, but would protect passcodes.
[Google Pixel 6] 96carboard:
Now I understand. Definitely a function of the dialer.
[Google Pixel 6] neptun2:
Well the software and the ecosystem related to the OS are for me even more important. You can have great hardware and perfectly optimized software but if you don't have needed apps and functions it is not useful. My main problem with apple products is not the price (albeit i think that their products are generally overpriced) but the fact that some things just can't be done with their devices and can be done in android. Android gives much more freedom and control to the user. Apple gives you something that they think is good and you either adapt to it or switch to other platform. One very simple example - if you want to change the ringtone of iphone you must connect it to PC or macbook and do it via itunes. You can't do it from the phone itself. Such functionality was available in some phones even before symbian was invented.
[Google Pixel 6] From0toHero:
I owned the Pixel 6 Pro. And the December update briked it. After that with the previous FPR issues i said myself good bye Pixel. It was a suboptimal experience. Now im rocking the iPhone 13 Pro Max, before that and the Pixel 6 Pro i owned the Note 20 Ultra. The Note 20 Ultra started to develop at the location of the proximity sensor a black discoloration, and i hate displays with blemishes, so i got the Pixel 6 Pro who was a major disappointment to. Till now the iPhone seems to be perfect.
[Google Pixel 6] From0toHero:
What are you talking about you have to connect your iphone to a pc to change ringtones?? That’s simply not true. When did u last time use a iPhone?
[Google Pixel 6] allc0re:
The Pixel 6 is my first Google phone and I love it. Battery life is great, camera is excellent, performance is excellent, and call and signal strength are excellent. I haven't experienced any of the bugs people are complaining about (I didn't get the December update). I would buy another Pixel without question.
[Google Pixel 6] 96carboard:
A better example is notifications on apple. They just stop working for no reason.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
I personally always thought that XDA was for development, learning, solving issues and technical reviews.

But with all this drama. It is like being involved in Facebook, tweeter, Reddit, What's app, etc.

I really do not know, I do not use an social media apps, web site as above. But that is what those sites are for.

Maybe that is why I am am on the pro side of this discussion. It is technical issue.
[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
XDA is also for discussion, reviews, opinions as well as development. It is nothing at all like the above social network platforms. I mean if you're not on them how would you know what those sites are for? From what you read on social networking sites perhaps? lol

FYI, some of the sites are a wealth of information by average people, not developers, and are basically unmoderated and uncensored. 99% of the world are average people with real world problems and solutions. Ignore them at your own peril, but it's like putting your head in the sand. I will agree that FB is a plague on society but that's another discussion. Are you on any Telegram dev channels? That's basically where they hang out, not here.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
Those social sites are for life styles and complaints. Example; I used a hole roll of toilet paper this morning and it should have lasted longer. I hate that brand anyway.

My cat loves using my Pixel 6 for a bed warmer, here is his picture.

I hate my job, so I will make it more difficult for everyone else.

I use Discord for Nova Launcher, but only check in once a week. Or for the beta updates.

Sorry for all the ranting. But it is true, it gets old trying to understand all the rage and hate.
[Google Pixel 6] Lughnasadh:
I only spoke of U.S. law because that is where I live and what I am familiar with. I can't speak to laws in other countries because I don't live in other countries, did not go to law school in other countries, do not practice law in other countries and have not researched the topic in other countries. Just because one only speaks to what they are familiar with does not mean they think they are the center of the universe. But thanks for enlightening me that the vast majority of humans do not live in the U.S. or under U.S. law...I really had no idea.

Obviously you are more informed than I am about the laws and Constitutions in other "civilized" countries (whatever "civilized" means) when it comes to biometrics vs. password/pin code protections. So maybe you can enlighten me...what percentage of "civilized" countries do not allow the police/government to force one to unlock their phone via biometric data vs. password/pin codes? Because I really have no idea since, as previously noted, I haven't researched the subject pertaining to other countries. I really am curious. And when this research has been conducted, how did they define what a "civilized" country is?
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
I willing to bet, that you did not learn all of this on social media. Lol. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
Lol, well it depends on which sub you subscribe to. The animal pics are great and reduce stress but to each his own on that. (where is that pic of the cat on a P6, I missed that one. lol) If you want information on a disease state, drug you are taking, why your dough isn't rising, personal finance, sports, WearOS, car problems.. I can't even begin to tell you how many informative discussions there are. And then there is the Pixel sub. Yes, there is drama there but that's because it's not moderated or censored. But it's everyday people having every day problems not techies. I'm not saying live your life on Reddit but don't deny the benefits and discussion on important issues. And no ads like on FB (constant) and Twitter (sometimes). But as I said it depends on what you're looking for. Up to date info on a fire, road closure, police activity, local alerts etc. there is no better or timely information than Twitter.

And then there's XDA, highly regulated, moderated, censored and controlled. As a techie it's my go to for sure but it is very limited in scope. All different platforms for different purposes. One not better than the other.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
Okay, you got me. Lets get a little bit social.

I do like post about animals.

I for one, I feed the deer and wild life.

I have a few cams set up to watch them at night.

And I feed the raccoons cat food on my back porch. But I do not post any of that.
[Google Pixel 6] alphasports:
FWIW after getting an early P6 on trade-in against my P5 it lasted a few days before getting returned: nice device but big, heavy, and clunky when in a case and slippery as a fish without one, plus my 2 year old OP7T crushed it with crazy fast (ok insecure...) face unlock AND FPR. Dumb complaints but back it went. Then a few weeks later Google upped the P5 trade-in value to CAD $475 so I couldn't resist and ordered another P6. But a funny thing happened during the 6 week wait: I really started appreciating the old OP7T that I had barely ever used, and the nice small form factor of the P5 is hard to beat and apparently obsolete again (form factor that is).

So, I cancelled the P6 and am more than happy with the OP (modded for gcam) and P5 for now. Plus I keep an iphone 12 around for my airtags and to remind me what a train wreck iOS has become.

Cheers
[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
OMG are you kidding? You don't post those? Raccoons are a big hit on r/aww as are wild life cams. Let me know when you post there I'll be your biggest fan! lol
[Google Pixel 6] 96carboard:
By civilized, I would generally say free, and not obviously dictatorships.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
Walter.
[Google Pixel 6] THRUSTer:
The effects of adaptive battery will be mild to moderate at best. You're not gonna get massive improvement from "it sucks" to "it's amazing", nor will it stop the phone from overheating.
[Google Pixel 6] neptun2:
Try to set your ringtone to your favorite song in mp3 format without PC. Here is also quote from apple own site:

Use tones and ringtones with your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support

Customize your ringtone, text tone, new mail alert sound, and more.

support.apple.com

Use a custom ringtone​

If you created a custom ringtone in an app, like Garageband, you can sync it to your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using iTunes for Windows or the Finder on a Mac.

Connect your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch to your computer.

On a PC, open iTunes for Windows. On a Mac, open the Finder.

Drag and drop the ringtone to your device.
[Google Pixel 6] From0toHero:
I can download any Song from itunes as a ringtone directly to my iphone and set it up as my ringtone without any computer or anything. And only if i want to download stuff from the internet i must use itunes to sync it with the iphone.
[Google Pixel 6] neptun2:
Itunes is far from being the only source of music in internet. And the ability to download file from internet and set it as ringtone is something that is available to any smart device (even the now defunct symbian) from the last 15 years except apple ones. This is just one example. I simply don't like companies who tell me that they know better than me what i need and how i should do it. If somebody is ok with apple way of doing things and their ecosystem so be it. It is just not my thing.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
The Verge: Why is Android 12 so buggy? It’s complicated.

Google’s Android 12 update has been the rockiest in years

An ambitious update that’s causing some big headaches.

www.theverge.com
[Google Pixel 6] MindTrix:
Lolololol..... I am not sure who is more funnier the people who cmon a help forum and call people stupid or the people who cmon a Google p6 thread and defend apple....

1st thing I do to all apple users is show them my Samsung trick.... yes I tell them I can make my Samsung look and run like your apple phone.. they go no you cant.... so I boot my Samsung into safe mode... looks just like an apple phone and has the same features..

Now for people who complain about the people who are complaining about real problems on a help forum... go away... this forum is for real people with real problems and if you have no problems then don't even bother being here.

I get some people like to complain about everything and if your that person then go find a help forum for your problem because its not going to be here.

Now in my opinion there are 2 phones one you can't mod and the other is google... yes I own a Samsung the only phone locked so tight I dropped it down a flight of stairs and still won't open up. I also have a modded pixel. No complaints here....
[Google Pixel 6] DanteRocco:
I sideloaded the December update. And I have not had new issues. And that's fingerprint reader. Here are my screenshots of my 6 Pro's software info. I do have "Developer options" turned on. Build # SQ1D.211205.017
[Google Pixel 6] From0toHero:
Lol your Samsung trick to look like a iphone? Well there must be a reason you can make your Samsung look like a iphone, because Samsung copies Apple whenever it can’s. No headphone jack? Check! No charger? Check! No headphones? Check! And i did not defend Apple. I can’t care less about apple or Samsung. I want good mobiles. And i have bought many apps on android and on ios. Whenever a mobile comes out that beats the competition, i opt for this mobile. ITs not just apple, like it’s just android for you. I give my money to the best, and sometimes Apple is better, sometimes Samsung is better. At the moment the iPhone 13 Pro Max is the better device than any other competitor.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
We all get it for the third time.

This is the Pixel 6 bashing thread. Not who has the bigger toys to play with. 😢
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
Anymore temper tantrums after the January update? 😜

Is everyone happy now? 🙏
[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
Yes sir! Very happy and it's about time. This is the device they should have released not that half baked.. lol. I'm looking for the ketchup so I can eat my words but give m a couple of days. I'll head over to my network dead zone later too. But you can't blame folks for complaining. Would we have gotten these fixes had the pressure not been as intense? They released a flawed device, we tested, gave feedback, and now it works as it should. Took 3 months but better...than.. congrats to one of the lone holdouts.
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
Yeah, it's the same every year with a new OS.

This time around there was a new chip set to deal with.

Reading some of the tech articles, Samsung was or still is having issues with Android 12.

Trust me if there was anything wrong with the Pixel 6 hardware it would have been worse.

If the Pixel 6 came out with Android 11, you would never had any problems.

PS, Walter had a relative with him last night for the back porch feast. 🦝
[Google Pixel 6] Bill720:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's bull. No actual "machine learning" or "AI" going on here. Pure marketing buzzword nonsense.
[Google Pixel 6] bobby janow:
Come on! r/aww
[Google Pixel 6] MindTrix:
Wow you must not understand my trick.. most apple user get it.... samsung does not copy iPhone that is the funniest statement ever going to post that all over the samsung forum.... but when I put my samsung in safe mode it becomes an iPhone because the screen res drops and the icons are flat and your limited on features mainly just enough to keep the phone operating all the bells and whistles 1¹are gone. Now to get my samsung back I reboot and everything is great no more iPhone.

I agree with the first comment that Apple is just a fashion gimmick..... look Becky look at my new flashing iPhone it matches my shoes... no really I know lots of soccer moms and they wear that iPhone like there the hottest lady on the planet. Then they see soccer dad (me) working on my old note 9 with my stylist out pecking on the screen while talking on bluetooth and multi-tasking between my split screen... I can see the difference in most apple user get one to be like everyone else.

But every phone old or new has a purpose and if used for that purpose hence my old note 9 still works for the work I do... I have a modded pixel that I use for gaming mostly but still use it as a phone too. So if that Apple phone has everything you need all the features you want and hey looks good too then buy an apple phone... just don't get on a pixel thread and brag that your apple phone is better.. know one cares we are in an ANDROID forum take you kewl apple phone to there forum..
[Google Pixel 6] vandyman:
LOL.

Red iPhone for red shoes so I can dance the blues.