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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
I couldn't care less what a bloke off YouTube thinks, anyone that earns a living out of being as popular as possible doesn't have the strongest case for integrity in my book and that goes for the lot of them not just this fella.

I have a Pixel 6 Pro, my wife has a Pixel 6 and one of my closest friends has a Pixel 6 Pro. All the phones have been used since the day of release and so far we have had nothing life changing to moan about nearly 3 months in (all on Dec update).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Azerox:
The phone is indeed a buggy mess but nothing a few software updates can't fix.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] marky310:
I'm one of the lucky ones who haven't had any problems with their 6 Pro. I know there's tons of people posting about their personal experiences so there's definitely problems out there, especially overseas. I've never really cared about YouTuber critiques but MKBHD has enough spotlight compared to an average user so I'm hoping this helps push Google into working overtime on fixes if even a little more
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
I find it really odd how these issues vary so much from person to person. And not just battery life (which can usually be attributed to the type and amount of apps you have installed) but issues including mobile signal, Bluetooth and DAC. The FP sensor also varying so much is probably due to the new(ish) technology, I think we can all agree it will get better every year but they should have included a Face Unlock or kept the rear sensor. I don't think they could do enough testing with all the types of finger prints, to know how bad it would be for some people.

Also, pulling an update off the developer page is unheard of. This is pretty serious - I get most aren't having issues, but this is almost unprecedented for Google. I think most of us on this forum are pretty technical, and can deal or fix some or most of our issues - but the general public can't (or shouldn't have to).

I do think some of these issues are related to A12, others are more on the hardware side. I've been on a few forums including red_dit, this one and another one and it does seem that many issues can be fixed by a factory reset (and using the Flash Tool). That's kind of problematic for a brand new phone. I've also seen a ton of issues for the 3-5 series after upgrading to Android 12, where things just break completely (software wise) and a factory reset resolves it.

My experience has been fine for my 6 Pro. I have a Pixel 3 XL, 4XL and a 6 Pro and so I am exposed to a bunch of hardware variations (not much on the software side). I did find that after factory resetting the 3 & 4 series, after they upgraded to A12, ran so much better. Almost all the issues with Google Assistant, Apps glitching and other random bugs pretty much disappeared.

But for 6 Pro, the only issues I've experienced are for the USB-DAC, overheating the first week (factory reset resolved it), some A12 UI glitches and reduced mobile connectivity on LTE/5G. These issues didn't appear all at once and I'm lucky that I can factory reset the phone to resolve issues (which most have been resolved by flashing the Dec. build - other than the mobile signal which is good enough after that update). But this shouldn't be the norm. I spent $1370.00 CAD on my 128 Pro. So we should push Google to do better, no matter if we are having issues or not.

So I feel we are dealing with a "double-trouble" scenario on the 6 series. I knew there was going to be growing pains but the general public doesn't know any better. They see what comes from Google, either by ads, tweets, reviews or news. And things aren't getting better (at least until this point).

Let's hope things do get better - and quickly, because I'm committed. Not sure if the general public is though.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ggrant3876:
MKBDH who? Don't need an over paid blogger to tell me about my phone. Sideloaded the December update and have not a single issue. Same with the November update.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Krasendo:
I don't have any bugs, but it would be nice if they optimized it better, improved 4G/5G reception, unlocked 5G, improved battery life, improved CPU/GPU optimization for games so it doesn't overheat.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Nexus One actually, though there were a couple of samsucks after it.

Even ADP-1 (effectively Nexus Zero) had one, but that was before qcom started using the name "snapdragon".
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Depends on how you define that. When I buy a pixel, its for unlocked bootloader and public (and maintained) device tree, and to REMOVE the "gooble experience" (which I define as gooble services and other closed source software). I don't like spyware.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Part of the problem with the pixel 6 [pro] is that they did a real hackish job of minimizing the device's total displacement, which compromised usability. The effort to remove bezels and make it as thin as possible has made the thing hard to hold. And as far as that thin as possible thing goes, it also has the hideous stick-out for the camera. These things would be a lot easier to hold and use if they were widened up a tiny bit, at least 1/8" along each side, and if it was thickened up to level with the camera hump. That would also give a ton more space inside for electronics or a waaaaay bigger batter.

I use a case that adds 1/4" all around, and puts the back level with the camera hump. Its 1000x better.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ekerbuddyeker:
Got it, wanted to love it, got fed up with it, returned it and also went back to my s21 ultra, a year old phone that is still better in so many ways. Very disappointed.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fuadhdmini:
I once theorized that Pixel 6 series gonna be the last Pixel following Nexus 6 series were from this former username of Google pixel IG account 😜
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] NippleSauce:
I was able to swap my year old S21U for the 256GB version of this phone. Whilst the S21U had much better picture clarity, the color accuracy in photos is much better on this phone. Regardless, I do appreciate the functionality of the S21U, however, the relentless advertisements on all of the stock, Samsung apps (of which, like 20 come pre-installed as system apps) was rather annoying. And since the bootloader is locked in all NA variants of the phone, I had to use adb to remove those stinky Samsung apps. So, the P6P was the phone for me being that its bootloader can be unlocked and that it's running vanilla Android.

Now, I'm not sure what problems MKBHD ran into, but luckily enough my P6P is working well and has been ever since I installed the correct factory image for my globally unlocked device purchased from Google's website.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Is ads on Samsung phones a US thing? I had the s21U in the UK and never had any ads anywhere?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Nexus 6 was a good phone with a solid SoC (Snapdragon 805). The last and best 32bit mobile chip. But Nexus got killed by the Nexus 5x and 6p (Snapdragon 808 and 810), which were rushed to market first generation 64bit chips that had an extremely high failure rate. They really should have gone with another round of 32bit chips and started the 64bit adventure with the Snapdragon 820, which was an an absolutely brilliant part.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] NippleSauce:
I imagine so. A majority of their apps were plastered with ad banners lol. It was a bit too crazy for me, hence why I had removed the apps over adb, haha.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] WashRob78:
I actually experienced a lot of buggy behavior for days with my P6 Pro before I even saw MKBHD's tweet, so I'm not surprised it finally all snowballed into him dropping his recommendation. He's a smart, well-respected tech reviewer and not that popularity equals truth, but he's got a huge following and this is not good for Google. They really need to get their sheets together. To date, I've had the following issues with the OTA update (that I had to install via adb):

Chromecast stops casting YouTube if the phone's screen is off

Pixel Buds randomly faded out (as if a call were coming through) while playing YouTube Music several times

This morning, Pixel Buds deleted themselves from my list of Bluetooth devices
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zetsumeikuro:
My experience with the P6P has mostly been positive. The only glaring issue that I have at this time is intermittent touch issues. All touch ceases to function until the screen times out or I turn it off manually and turn it back on and all touch is restored. It's hard to recreate since it's random and it did seem to occur more on the Dec update for me. After scouring Reddit, I did manage to find some others that had the same issue as me. I'm hoping it is a software issue as I don't want to deal with Google support or sacrificing my perfect dust/debris free Whitestone install.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TonikJDK:
I have that issue. I do not recall seeing it before the December update.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zetsumeikuro:
I reverted back to the Nov build with the flash tool and had it occur once after 24 hours. On the December firmware it would happen multiple times per day for me. By chance do you use mobile Discord?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TonikJDK:
I do not use Discord mobile. All of my freezes are while using Brave, but that may be a coincidence.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zetsumeikuro:
Thanks for confirmation. Since I know that initially on A12 Discord was a trainwreck with all the constant System UI crashes and forcing the UI to reload each time that happened.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
Google isn't marketing the phone to tech enthusiasts like yourself that know how to do that. They're marketing it to everybody. Particularly users that would just expect to get their update from their carrier, reboot their phone and that's all that's needed. I think out of caution and to secure his reputation with her followers, he's just being cautious. If his recommendations are causing bad user experiences, I'm sure he feels responsible.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] selayan:
If anything this will just make Google speed up their intent to maybe communicate better or get stuff together for the next update to make sure everything is smooth. I personally have not had any call drops or issues extensively. Twice I had to toggle airplane mode since I did lose data but it wasn't as consistent as I am reading from other people.

My only issue with my phone is battery life even after a factory reset with few apps installed. If I go from wifi to mobile data and do something like use a bit of navigation or other intensive process, even if its just for 10-15 minutes, the battery drains pretty quickly for the rest of the day. I can only hope they can decrease the always on display drain and somehow make the mobile data modem more efficient if possible.

I remember MKBHD used to recommend pixels fairly often and in the beginning he seemed like a big fan compared to other flagships although he does use all three, Google, Samsung and Apple.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] avetny:
Switched my 6 pro to iphone in beginning of December. A week ago took the phone back from the table, switched ON to show the camera to a friend....guess what.....the camera was showing a black screen, switching to selfie camera also gave a black screen.,restart didnt help, wipe camera setting didn't help., unistal updates didn't help. So I factory reset my phone., it worked...But I put that SHIIIT back to drawer....

I was laughing at Windows Duo 2...becuz is garbage, and now Pixel is weird too.......and I don't care about future updates.....Time is Money
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
did you have the "camera access" toggle off in Quick Settings. I've had that happen a few times, and was fuming, just to realize oh crap, woops, its the toggle!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] avetny:
oh damn ! never checked that option ! lmao tnx
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
I know. one night I almost lost it and was just about to do a factory reset with all my data and apps, but then I saw the light (literally) because the flashlight worked so I was like ok what's going on, then noticed the toggle below it for "camera access and microphone" were disabled. lol. It was bad. and since then I've had a few situations where I forget it was disabled. so now I just leave it on sheesh
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] pcriz:
Frankly even being "bug free", I'm sympathetic to people with problems. I've gotten to a place in life where I always have a fairly recent phone in a drawer somewhere. So if I end up with a phone that isn't performing right I can send it back without a second thought. I always have a comfortable fall back.

Then you have folks that have traded in their only working phone to get one that then doesn't play right it can be certainly a frustrating experience. Is this everyone's experience? Nope, never said it was. But we can't claim it doesn't happen.

I just don't get all the "that's weird, mine doesn't do that", it's not weird at all. It's always been that way. It's why there is a means to return and repair devices, sometimes people get a dud.

It's a fact of manufacturing, and when you don't invest enough as a cost saving

measure then you raise the rate of failure. So the rate of failure means some won't fail. Some will fail. It's not some strange phenomenon.

So people having bugs and experience breaking problems isn't new. The rate at which it happens isn't a constant though but it can certainly be related to a business's investment into quality control. But good quality control costs money which lowers the bottom line.

Add on top of that the state of a12 and its own problems. I have no problem with someone wanting a smooth experience out of the box.

Someone choosing to wait for an update that may or may not fix something bothering your phone is a choice when you are in a return window. It's a choice that isn't really consumer friendly and puts us in a space where it makes more sense for a company to push phones to capitalize on a release window that's more profitable than releasing a device that works out the door. I need to sell you this phone before someone releases the next best thing.

Being mad at people for not being happy with something they spent their hard earned money on is what I don't get. If yours works. Good on you. Enjoy it. If yours doesn't work. I hope there is enough feedback through official channels to get them to pull their head out their arse. I have zero sympathy for a faceless company.

I have allegiance to my dollar.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] vip-nord:
For me, the P6 pro expérience is very good.

Nice UI. Nice hardware. Very good phone.

BUT I'm VERY disappointed by the camera.

Very noisy, over processed.

I hope that can be fixed by software update
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] granosalis:
MKBHD Interview:
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
We'll I'm going to retrain my voice per his recommendation. Otherwise, glad January update hit today. Hope it was worth the wait...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] LLStarks:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1482098746779447305

Maybe he'll like it?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
The amount of people kissing his backside on Twitter saying thank you MKBHD we have an update thanks to you is laughable.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Ghisy:
I agree. I don't hate the guy by any means but thinking Google released this update thanks to him is ridiculous.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Shipoftheline:
Some of these Youtubers think their God
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
Have you watched the video? All he said is he was frustrated by the bugs and poor performance with this phone.

He's not responsible for idiots that think Google updated the phone because he wasn't happy with the bugs/performance.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Shipoftheline:
Did you read what I said
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
Yep, wasn't many words. Pretty easy to read.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Shipoftheline:
That's good but I underlined the key one 😉
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
I have no idea what you're talking about. I guess you're just making a statement not relevant to the thread. Let's just leave it at that. Not interested in discussing it further. Appreciate the involvement though. Have a great weekend buddy!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Shipoftheline:
I'm not sure why you're being obtuse but all I've done is corrected YOU when I pointed out I wasn't referring to your mate but

some

Youtubers 🙄
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] iRhyiku:
The waves of people thanking him for the update makes me sick tbh They wouldn't make an update in 2 days let alone rush one out because some paid mouthpiece said something mean about them.

He did nothing and showed nothing, just read some articles and repeated them back. The only bug he was able to show was his device dropping to 60hz.. in a 60fps video so we wouldn't be able to tell..
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
My thoughts exactly mate, he's not done owt to me and i am sure he's a nice chap but he isnt the reason why this update arrived.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
Yep, you sure corrected me. 🚩🚩🚩
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] pro_b:
It seems to me that so many people on here as well as the social media platforms are TRYING to make him the spokesman for all the google issues with this device. He made a video clarifying due to all the backlash. He initially sent the tweet from the S21 Ultra after going back to it because of a few issues that frustrated him on the P6 Pro. He said once he noticed he didn't have the issues on the S21 he sent the tweet from that phone. He STILL DOES recommend the Pixel 6. He mainly stated that he cannot recommend the Pixel 6 Pro at it's current price due to his issues. He was directing that to people that seek out his opinion. It just so happens that his opinion carry some weight regardless of how any of us feel about it. I'm trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that maybe he just wanted to share his experience. I have the iPhone 13 Pro Max, the S21 Ultra, and the Pixel 6 Pro. In my case, the s21u has been smoother than the P6 Pro so far. I'm thinking the issues could be more related to Android 12 than the device itself. I'm not jumping ship and I'm not dogging any device. I'm just sharing MY experience. I'm going to stick with the Pixel because I like the exclusive features you can only find on Pixel devices (my favorite being call screening... I get so many SPAM calls). BTW, I carry my iphone and pixel daily. I just use the s21U as a reference to try and duplicate some of the issues I come across.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zymphad:
It's Android on Samsung Exynos...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zymphad:
This is exactly what my thought has been.

Google is more focused on making Android friendly for Apple users than for the Android users.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
I wouldn't think you hated the guy because of comments of his followers on Twitter. 👍

It's gotten so weird...

Says he has problems with the phone and people attack him like he insulted their mother. Especially blaming him for comments his followers make.

For quite a while most reviewers just talk the phone up like it's the greatest thing ever and Google made a perfect masterpiece which I have to agree it hasn't been for me. And I've been exclusively pixel since the OG.

Anyways, doesn't matter what anybody else says. We'll see how the phone ends up after Google's best effort to fix everything and I hope they're successful for both our benefits.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] :
Well of course it's always sensible to judge things for yourself but folks like him to offer some valuable insight and perspective about these devices. I like to weigh all the facts together and then come up with a decision.

I don't believe anyone sensible would just take one person's word for choosing what phone to buy.

MKBHD pointing out real issues with something we're using helps raise more awareness to that maybe we can get put further pressure on Google to give us better updates.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] rester555:
All I can say on this topic is I agree with @V0latyle. I get this phone for the vanilla experience and the modding. F**K Iphone and other vendors that lock phones down. I can't stand ads and the pixel phone is the best way to give a big FU to people that want to collect your data and sell it if you are willing to unlock the bootloader and install/uninstall what you want. EDIT: The last non-nexus and non-pixel device I had was a iPhone 3gs switching to the nexus line and never looked back.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] XRaiderV18:
at the risk of putting a big ol fat bullseye on my back....

when I buy a phone, I dont sign up to be a 'public release version beta tester'(thank you for that, EA, with Anthem). I expect a product thats been tested, had those tests QC reviewed by professionals, and vetted fully by a select group(or groups..not all users are gonna use it for the same things) of individuals from the target audience.

clearly this has not happened with the P6P...and from the reviews I've been reading and watching, I'm VERY happy I did not pull the trigger on this when it released.

I have enough stress in my life without fighting a piece of tech I depend on for a connection to the outside world.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] prohibido_por_la_ley:
Guess you didn't read there previous posts. Every product has issues at launch and are fixed later on in an update. The P6/P is no different yet people are treating it like it is.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
You're a goner now🤣

I don't think it's that simple with Androids.

Apples run right out of the box more or less but are destined to never be greater.

Androids are very customizable. So you need to come up to speed to get the most out of them.

When I got my Note 10+ it wasn't near close to optimized out of the box. It was a hot running, bandwidth hungry battery hog. Some betaware stuff going on to be sure.

So I played with it... a lot.

Today it's hard to believe it's that same phone with the same firmware. My second N10+ was a snap to set up even though it's running on Q vs Pie. Almost no learning curve on the second one's setup because I now understand the methods behind (what first seemed to be) the madness.

There are usually workarounds for most Android issues. Or it's as simple as not enabling power management. I used settings, a package disabler and a firewall to bring it in line.

Shrinking violets who aren't willing to learn though probably should stick to Apples and die of boredom. A certain level of tech savvy is needed to use Androids effectively. Same goes with a set of wet stones for knife sharpening.

The only limit to the rewards is how deep down the rabbit hole you're willing to go with Androids.

That's not to say that some hardware and firmware releases aren't betaware. Lack of testing becomes painfully obvious when no work arounds can be found like with color shifting displays* for example. Perhaps they just didn't give a fk... if so the manufacturer deserves to be held accountable. Consequences.

And as always, buyer beware.

*a common problem with most of the variable rate displays. With some it's bad enough that it's an obvious defect, in others barely noticeable.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] johninsf:
I like Marquees Brownlee. Good reviews, good success story. However, we all make our own buying decisions. I hate the new word/job title "Influencer" but he is with so many followers.

I have experienced connectivity issues but the January update resolved them. Bluetooth is weird now, while it was not before the latest update.

Maybe Google will send Mr. Brownlee a gift basket and 100gb of free storage (for 3 years) to smooth things over.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Or ban him for life from Utube for spreading disinformation.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] johninsf:
@blackhawk unsure if Google is into banning. They actually offer "free" services to collect the disinformation bring spread + market data storage, and attorney services to those spreading it. 😆
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Just joking (sort of) as he's on Twitter.

Either platform will ban you if you don't post the right (left) things. Zero trust in those two platforms as they are heavily and biasly censored now.

Lol, as trustworthy as wiki🤣