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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pt_t830:
Upgrade from HTC WM6.0 Original ROM

Hello,

I'm still running HTC WM6.0 Original ROM on my device, I would like to know if I have to HardSPL and CID-UNLOCK my device to upgrade to this new ROM???

Tks in adv
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
i prefer upgrading ur hard spl....as this rom is a wm 6.1 rom...ur old hard spl from wm 6.0 will cause major screen freezes....but the CID unlock is not needed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Rubber Duck:
Hello i just did my first rom flash on my kaiser.

First i tried just like that(official htc rom so thought it would just work), it failed and then i ran kaiser-HardSPLv1 ,it worked perfecly.

It runs much smoother now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] james.shumaker:
Good, but not really worth it ...

Just for sh!ts and giggles, i went for the carrot and installed this "new" ROM. Fact of the matter is I only notices two things different from the 3.29 base - 1) HTC Connection Setup runs from coldinit which is good because you don't have to wait for everything to load after install/hard reset only to find out you have to reset again once your carrier's configurations have been set AND 2) the radio ..

That's really all I noticed. What I ended up doing was taking the HTC Connection Setup and coooking it into my own 3.29 ROM. the 3.34 was really finicky about what radio it wanted and I really had to play around to find a radio it liked (i.e., no sound or camera issues).

Take what you like from this one and cook your own ROM - you'll be much happier.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
I still insist that this OEM ROM with the 1.70.19.09 radio are the best combo I have ever tested. Fast, Reliable, Steady... thats basically all one needs to have a great functioning tilt. I loaded my programs, and I have a lot in there, then I flashed a Diamond HTCHome. All is well and I recommend this ROM to any Noob flashing his or her first ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hsanghavi:
Excellent this ROM is the best and the most stable one with 3.56 Hard SPL there is no issues.

PROBLEM:

Only if you leave the phone for a longtime (like 3 to 4 hours) on Mobie Windows Sync Centre (Vista) then the incoming or out going phone calls get stranded. You cannot get the dialer to come on till the phone is soft reset.

This problem was there also in earlier versions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
I do not have this issue... I am using a diff dialer though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Lio:
error 294 invalid vender ID

I wanted to upgrade to this rom (current rom in my signature) but I get "Error [294] invalid vender ID"

I wanted to know if there is anyway to upgrade without flashing HardSPL (not to void guaranty)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
why not flash hard spl?....you can always re-flash ur original spl for warrenty issues?....i did it....no sweat
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] erichodge:
i've flash this ROM, stripped it, and then installed a ****eton of software...

everything is good... had to revert back to the unlocked (i.e. patched) version of the 1.67.17.10 radio to get GPS functioning well (i live in boston).

been having some issues with entering data from the hardware keyboard. sometimes it just enters carriage returns whenever i'm trying to enter a letter... going to have to dig through all i've installed and see what has messed this up...

i'm quite happy with this ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Never heard of 1.67.17.10 radio. Do you mean 1.65.17.10. Be wary of that radio. It's the radio from hell. Just hope your security unlocked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xconradx:
This ROM with 3.56 SPL and the packaged radio is a really excellent setup. Super stable, lite and quick, I've really been digging this ROM since I flahsed it. I think I will be sticking with a for quite a while.

I get really fast GPS fixes with this radio as well, even in overcast weather. Battery life is solid as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] erichodge:
security is unlocked and i used the patched version of the radio (you have the version correct, i typo'd).

this radio gives me amazing results up here in boston... super fast GPS fix (gps test and tomtom) great sound quality, good battery life. using hard spl (force usb) 3.29.

any idea on the hard returns constantly occurring when using the hardware keyboard? been looking around and i cannot seem any similar issues occurring...

cheers,

eric
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] macdo:
Hi All, I've been reading this forum and many threads about flashing and different roms. I know my actual ROM / Radio is not updated and I'm not so happy how it works.

So...I want to know if I can flash this ROM straight forward or I need to do HardSPL before it?

My phone specs:

At&t Tilt 8925 Refurbished and factory unlocked.

ROM 1.62.502.0

ROM DATE: 01/17/08

RADIO VERSION: 1.27.14.09

HARD-SPL

KAIS*0

1.93.0000

CPLD-8

CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4) WM 6.0

I'm not in ATT Network, do I have to remove sim card before flashing the rom? (because the instructions only say to remove SD card)

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
OK this might clear up somethings for you... Should you decide to do a lot of ROM flashing, then I recommend for you first to CID unlock your device as explained here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375583 . then install one of the latest HardSPL flashes as explained here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396922 . If you want to just update your ROM this one time, you can do so by flashing a SoftSPL and immediately follow with your chosen ROM flash, however, this last process is needed every time you need to update your ROM. I recommend reading the material in this post as well: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=369282

Good luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Lio:
Would softSPL flashing work if I get "Error [294] invalid vender ID"?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
YES .... However I recommend few minutes reading and preparing all programs at hand for flashing before you commit to flashing. There is a whole chapter about errors and solutions in the XDA-Wiki, read that also.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Lio:
Before posting my first post I spent a long time reading Wiki.

However, according to what I understood I have to unlock CID to get rid of Error 294. And to unlock CID I have to flash HardSPL.

So, I went and read for hours all about flashing HardSPL and how to revert settings if I would need to send back under warranty.

What I would like to do is flash this new official Rom without HardSPL. If this is possible, can you just provide a link with exact procedure for SoftSpl?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
lsn man...not to butt in...but using soft spl to flash a complete ROM is very risky...(even though it can be done)

alot of expert developers will tell you that...

please dont let the warrenty issue scare you from flashing hard spl, the idea of flashing a hacked hard spl is that it will over ride your original spl and allow you to flash cooked and non-cooked roms safely without fear

the moment you need to send ur device and use ur warranty, you can easily re-flash ur original spl and your original rom and viola!!!! you got your warranty....i did so before and so did many other ppl....im sure asfoor would agree with this too
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dengi_it:
Any news about local languages availability?

I've read very positive news about this new ROM here.

I would like flashing my Tytn II in Italy but the Italian site has not yet this new release. I just saw in the European site of HTC a new "HTC TyTN II - Operating System [ROM] Update" but I cannot download it with my SN

Do you know in other local languages are being distributed for this new release, as I guess my problem is that I'm only allowed to download the Italian version?

Many thanks

P.S. of course that means that I prefer having a stock official HTC release instead than a "cooked" one
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Black-Rose:
I've compared the OEM folders of build 3.29 and 3.34, especially the folders OEMDrivers. Indeed, all files with fileversion 3.29 are replaced by version 3.34 but...

A lot of the other files are of a previous version then in build 3.34...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dodadent:
Any PrintScreen?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Black-Rose:
Another try...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Carter20:
Hi there,

I have a few questions:

If this an official Rom, why cannot I download it from the HTC site?

I have bought my kaiser in Germany, and I want to switch to an English rom.

The German HTC Site features a rom which is much older and HTC does not let me download Roms from other HTC sites!

Does this rom include the new radio or do I have to install it seperately?

Do I need to install hardspl though it is not a cooked rom?

Many thanks!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dani31:
You probably need to be a subscriber to HTC Asia to download it. And for that you probably need a device with an IMEI from HTC Asia.

Yes the ROM includes new radio 1.70.19.09.

And yes I think you need Hard SPL to flash a ROM from a different region.

But after flashing the ROM you could flash the non-cooked SPL extracted from this ROM (SPL 3.34.0000). After that your device would look pretty much like a stock HTC Asia Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Carter20:
Hi,

thanks for the answer,

but is there any benefit to have the asian spl instead of the hard spl or is it just for the "make up"? I would not get an asian IMEI anyway with having the original spl.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dani31:
You don't need an asian IMEI since you can download the ROM here ;)

Hard spls allow you to flash any ROM. They are created based on different stock spls.

As far as i know, there are hard spls based on 3.07, 3.28, 3.29 and 3.56 spls. There is no hard spl based on 3.34 yet.

It is important to have the right spl for the ROM that you use, and therefore I flashed 3.34 which is the spl contained in this ROM, even if it is not "hard".

I will flash a hard spl again if I want to flash a cooked ROM.

P.S.

In case you don't know, each stock ROM contains an spl but flashing the ROM does not change the spl. The spl can be extracted from the ROM and flashed separately, as any spl. You can find the extracted spl from this ROM (3.34) in this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Carter20:
Hi,

thanks for your help!

I do not know why you need to have the right spl, but I tried to extract it myself using this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335568

but htc rom tool tells me that the "signing process is not successful" :(, so I cannot go on!

Besides that:

So any htc sites around the world delivers rom updates independently? Why is the asian rom more current than e.g. the German that I can download from xda-dev.? By the way, I think the German rom here is outdated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dani31:
For me the 3.34 spl posted in this thread worked fine, I don't think there is any reason to try to extract it yourself.

As for the global policy of HTC, I don't know really.

The ROM itself seems to have the same pre-installed apps. Maybe the radios are optimised for the infrastructure and usage habits in different regions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Carter20:
hi,

hope you are still there to answer me this:

1) i cannot find the spl in this thread, where is it hidden?

2) how can I find out if I am currently usind hard spl, or the spl that is from the rom that is installed? I know how to see the bootloader screen, but not to interpret the figures.

Many thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Lio:
How do you flash spl 3.34 if it's not Hard?

Do you flash it according to this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335568 ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xtant21:
I have to concur that after about a week and half of using this ROM this is the best one I've used so far. I have to admit the sound quality (volume?) is MUCH better than any ROM I have ever used before. Very stable...pretty quick...I've used a few other ROMs that the scrolling (and portrait to landscape rotate) was a little quicker (Dutty) but other than that this is a nice stable, quick, no BS ROM. Thanks to whomever gave this one up for the group.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Carter20:
What do you mean with volume?

Do you mean, that even when set to lowest it is still very loud?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xtant21:
Well...yes...but also it just seems to be clearer as well. I can hear details that I don't remember being able to discern in other ROMs...not sure if it is solely the radio or a combination of things but it just plain out sounds soooo much better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jobo1277:
Just want to share my experience on this. I have a HTC branded unit. Got the unit in taiwan. Anyway, when i saw this update available, i upgraded it from 3.28.405.0 wwe, radio 1.65.17.56, hardspl 3.28, also, if it would help, my serial number is one of the GB serials. At first i thought it was great having this update, everything was fast. But on the downside, i had difficulties using this update for the following reasons: 1) It drained my battery way way faster. 2) even though i am located in the Philippines and have the right sim card inserted (Globe Telecoms) it was telling me that i am in roaming mode... I am not sure where i went wrong (or probably my HW wasn't compatible for the update). Just my thoughts.

thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pt_t830:
My opinion about this ROM!!!

Hello @All,

This is so far a good ROM, concerning to stability, speed, good sound quality and battery life.

Before I used WM6.0 HTC official ROM, then I decided to upgrade to this new ROM. I used for first flash Hard-SPL 3.29, after flash, I installed the original SPL 3.34.

Until proven in contrary I will use it for a long time!!!:)

Tks

pt_t830
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] inf3ct3d:
This official ROM i quit good.

I ran battbench with its default radio (1.70.19.09) 3% and the result was 167mins.

With the 1.64.08.21 3% 233mins. BUT ... no sound and camera.

So now i will test it with 1.71.09.01 radio. Anybody tested the best radio for this rom so far ?

Thanks and good luck ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jeslas:
best ROM ive tried for a while
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] snowman81:
I've tested so many of the cooked roms but keep coming back to this rom. Its only short coming compared to the best of the best cooked roms is the rotation speed is not as good.

It's a shame all these really talented rom guys don't believe in making clean roms that don't have all the custom icons and splash screens that end up making the phones seem like Chinese knock off phones....at least to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
And,

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani31

It is important to have the right spl for the ROM that you use, and therefore I flashed 3.34 which is the spl contained in this ROM, even if it is not "hard".

What are you both talking about? The ROM base is a 3.34, Not the HardSPL.. You are getting both flashes confused. You need an SPL, either 3.28, 3.29 or a 3.56 to flash any cooked ROM. Sometimes you can get away with an older SPL to flash a cooked ROM, but read the cooks recommended SPL before flashing. Now it happened by coincidence that the name of the ROM

base

is close to the SPL version. Maybe thats why you got confused..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dani31:
I won't say anymore, cause for some strange reason my words seem to appear incorectly on your screen. I noticed this previously in this thread. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pt_t830:
From XDA Wiki...

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?

Why would I want to change my SPL back after I HardSPL?

Up until a week ago the answer you would have probably gotten is "you wouldn't." However with the release of the Official 6.1 HTC ROM there has been alot of speculation, and some real data inferring that for best performance of a ROM you should use the SPL that came with a ROM or at the very least (to put it another way) you should use a newer SPL with a newer ROM.

There is no definitive proof or specific results that can show you how one SPL will make your device perform over another. I believe I have conducted the most "scientific" experiments on this to date which you can find here. However which SPL you use is up to you based on how you feel it makes the device operate. I recommend however that you use either one of the HardSPLs or the SPL that came with your ROM. It is not recommended (at this point) to run your ROM with an SPL that is not matched to it.

pt_t830
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gasman858:
Please clarify

pt - The spl issue has been discussed since early 6.0 - please clarify the above statements and link your scientific results when convenient.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pt_t830:
If you read my post as it should you will see the link from XDA Wiki where I get that statement!!

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?

Go trought this Wiki Page....

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
Dani... I did not misunderstand your words... The talk was about "HARDSPL" 3.34... To the best of my knowledge there is NO such a thing as HARDSPL3.34. The Soft or OEM SPL 3.34 was part of the OEM ROM flash. I am just not clear on where you were able to locate the Hard or Soft 3.34 SPL to flash it separately. Please post a link.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pt_t830:
from post #43

http://rapidshare.com/files/158172847/SPL3.34.zip

pt_t830
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
pt_t830... This is a SoftSPL that is extracted out the OEM HTC Kaiser ROM. Not a HardSPL. Unlike HardSPLs, this one will keep changing as you flash a new cooked ROM.

And yes... Thanks for uploading the SPL for those that need it as a reference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] babola:
just for clarification...

Please read Wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?.

I can confirm I flashed 3.34 SPL (aka HardSPL or Default SPL or OEM SPL), as well.

What you are referring to is the hacked HardSPL. And you are right there is no hacked HardSPL 3.34, yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dani31:
asfoor, this discussion can stop now. :)

It is clear that you have finally understood the SPL issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dizzy33:
some other languages ?

Hello, does anyone know if there will be some other languages releases of this ROM ? I'm searching for a french release of this ROM. Thanks !
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] swieder711:
I just got an update for Carrier Services via the PlayStore. I am now running Carrier Services 89.0..._20220118

Hopefully these updates will continue to improve our Cellular services.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TheAnarchi1:
How does it feel? Is your network more stable? How's standby faring up?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] LLStarks:
T-Mobile is still September policy.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TheAnarchi1:
I hopped off the December 10th beta and manually installed this new carrier services 89. build. The connection seems more stable at first pass, but I also cannot seem to pick up 5G UC. I am going to take a drive and go tower hopping to see if I can jump start it with a handoff.

I think swider is talking about the app from the playstore rather than what T-Mobile shows in the sim option. Admittedly my knowledge is limited on the particulars of this stuff.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] DespairFactor:
I thought you said you were going to drive by a tower and jump off
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Probably a lot of people here would like to do that 🙃
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TheAnarchi1:
Y'all, ROFL! If the reception situation doesn't improve I might be tempted to hop off a tower! I did drive out far enough for a handoff and it seems to have jump started everything as I anticipated. I am keeping an eye both on my speed and mobile network standby battery usage.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Pgr626:
I will test on my Pixel 6 Pro... I hope this is better...

Edit : It's changing nothing, I just want cry again and again... (clear cache/data of carrier services, SIMToolkit, Sim Manager, reboot my Pixel...) F*ck Google !
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stroke55:
Just RMA it. I also had connection issues right from the start (interupted mobile connection while at full LTE reception) and will get a replacement.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TheAnarchi1:
stroke55,

Did you have the same issues with your replacement device? I have read a couple people going that route and they all seem to end up with roughly the same issues on the new device. I am still willing to believe that it's a software problem.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] bobby janow:
I got the new Carrier Services about a day or so ago. I think I might have noticed a decent increase in network and therefore better battery life. But I'll know more in a day or so. But it does look good so far.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Zach Alt:
Sure would be nice if everyone got these updates at the same time. 🙃
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] bouchigo:
Get it from APK mirror, that's what I did (y)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] reas0n:
Beta of Carrier Services seems to be returned by the way. I just applied to it just in case xD
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stroke55:
I will get my replacement unit next week probably (Google received my faulty P6P a couple of minutes ago) and will report back. If the issue will not be resolved Google will have a second chance to fix it before I have the legal right to withdraw from the purchase contract (at least here in my country). After 3 months I am just tired that Google seems to be unable to fix just a basic functionality of the phone softwarewise (or hardwarewise - who knows?!).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] NippleSauce:
It looks like you can't get version 89.0___ unless you're in the Carrier Services beta group. But regardless, I think that I found a partial solution to one of the service issues that some are facing on T-Mo. In the SIM settings, put your "preferred network" to LTE (it's on 5G by default). In some areas of the US, your "5G" towers are just updated LTE towers and aren't proper 5G towers. As a result, if 5G is your preferred data type, it might dismiss the upgraded LTE towers and try its best to connect to an actual 5G tower, hence why it keeps failing and providing no service in some areas. Fixed.

Switching my preferred network to LTE resulted in the 5G logo popping up in the status bar and showing 3-4 bars of connection. It seems that the settings are a little messed up there.

*Edit* - Welp, nevermind. Ten minutes after doing this, the 5G logo went to the LTE image... And then ten more minutes later, I lost connection again and it wouldn't reconnect regardless of what was done... I'm gonna try joining the carrier services beta and see what happens. The only change I've made before this started happening was flash the latest Despair kernel.

*Final Edit* - I have removed my other edit posts as the issue was gone on other kernels and then returned a few minutes later. It seems there's either maintenance on my nearest cell tower or something else is going on... I'll wipe and reinstall the January update tonight to see what happens. Weird stuff. Yeah, disregard this as a re-update resolved the problem =)