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[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] OJsakila:
Not only the operation of the phone in cold weather exasperating this issue but maybe also a combination of pressing on the screen with a finger to close the phone..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
Plasticisers are a limited lifespan. They are what makes plastics flexible. As they fail, cracking is the result. With a close to a near 180° the engineering is less than brilliant. Made with a very finite lifespan in mind.

The Fold series is an even more niche market than the Notes. Like an inept gambler Samsung don't know when to run away. By shoving the prototype Fold down the throats of its loyal Note customer base Samsung deserves what they get... idiots.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] akhentamentiu:
sorry, blackhawk.. do you have one of these?? best phone ever lol.

if the stock protector fail, replacements are easy
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] erwinyap69@gmail.com:
Ya been a Note User since the first one .. after going Fold 3 I can never go back... love the screen .. really better battery, cameras, I'd like a micro SD slot again and for thr s pen to go into the phone and it would be perfect...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] erwinyap69@gmail.com:
As for the screen cracking mine has not but the built in screen protector has peeled up so I peeled off ... all good so far.. but if you get this phone usually it's on a 24 month contract then you swap phones to 2 gens later. Also I'd assume everyone would get the insurance for the screen replacement etc... so if that's done you just send it in for any screen issues .
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
No, blackhawk just likes bagging it as far as I can tell.

Best. Phone. Ever. For me, anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
I loved the note, from the very first, and my note 12 pro tablet. Now that I'm retired and don't need the spen I love the fold. It's like carrying a tablet in your pocket everywhere.

I can't wait until they actually get the whole 'Z' folding thing working, to triple the size :)

What I find funny is all the people bagging the idea of the Fold, alongside all the companies trying to make one themselves. I'm pretty sure Apple will sell one in five years, well behind the curve as usual while claiming to be ahead as usual.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] erwinyap69@gmail.com:
Ha ha yes exactly apple will bring a foldable out when samsung goes to the next design for foldable.. I also like that sliding screen they might out put out ... I'd rather the than the folding but for now beggars can't be choosers lol
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
it's interesting that no one here had a bad experience while a similar thread on reddit is full of (cracked) displays
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
Link? (or it didn't happen :))
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rb1xxf

and another thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/pnw6ly
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
tbh I hate how Samsung (pushed) customers to get the Fold. It seems they realised killing the note series wasn't the right way to go so they're bringing it back with the S22 Ultra or whatever they wanna name it
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
Yeah definitely seems like a problem. Apparently a couple are reported each day one user wrote.

I'm not sure how many are sold overall, though, so I'm unaware of the possible failure rate.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] akhentamentiu:
sucks for those dudes. warranty and insurance are beautiful things.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
You probably couldn't sound more ignorant if you tried. What a clown.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
Brilliant counterpoint cupcake... you certainly are on par with the same level of competence as the SK Samsung tech support team🤣

Allow me to retort. Display failures at the seam are also happening... wait for the *pop*. Top layer adhesive failures are more common. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

In warranty, out warranty you are boned. Wipe, send in, wait, wait... reload. Time is money.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] dirtybudha:
Plastic DOES have a life span, as does metal, glass, and other materials. It's a general statement.

Okay, you don't like the near 180* design. It's a personal view, but resectable.

It could be a niche market but all styles are niche. Jumped from the note, would prefer the larger screen, personally. I do believe this will become a larger market, but some will not be in to it. This is also their 3rd fold phone, which have gotten better with each iteration. To be clear, it's not a prototype.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
Easily replaceable protectors are not an issue. The display and it's substrate are... you're flexing the OLEDs and their intricate active matrix too.

Flexible plastic's lifespan is exponentially shorter than metal and glass as the latter can last a millennium or longer.

The type, angle of bending, times bent and thickness of the plastic in part determine it's lifespan. A near 180° is the most stressful.

It's not just one material in the AMOLED displays you're bending but many and most are electronically connected. Each has different physical properties.

The science behind it.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] dirtybudha:
You've made your point that you don't think the Fold series, or foldables, are built to last using the components they have right now. It's great that you included a study...done in China. That's fair as they produce most of the electrical components. The study just states that there is strain on foldable AMOLED screen. No one has disputed that.

I've had my phone since they shipped, and there are no issues with the inside screen. If you severally dislike this phone series so much, why are you posting in the Fold 3 forums?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
Just my thoughts. Because Samsung staked so much money and resources into this technology it has adversely effected their other products and their development. The S21U was a watered down Note, not as capable and with a big price tag.

Samsung has lost focus and their prospective in an epic way. The Fold technology development alone came with huge cost. Production has been very problematic and with a low volume of sales. Even now Samsung won't release the numbers. Not sustainable.

Some top Samsung executives really need Gamblers Anonymous right about now.

Time will tell... I'm betting Samsung will need to fold.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] dirtybudha:
That's fair. Honestly, everything starts somewhere. I see as Sammy took the big step, and that is forcing others to move as well. Will it last? I think it will, and I think the tech will improve.

I remember the first cell phones...from the 90s. Dem bricks! Look where tech is now. But it's understandable to question it in the early stages of such a change.

Gambling like that can lead to advances and breakthroughs.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Mr. Orange 645:
There's always going to be devices that have issues. There's manufacturing tolerances, inherent differences in materials, etc. You can find some issue with any an every product ever produced.

This is my second Fold device (ZF2 now ZF3), and I've never had an issue with either. They're not nearly as fragile as people make them out to be.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] hkr:
You forgot to mention, that also user behaviour might have an impact on some issues. Some users handle their device like a raw egg, others like you might with a rugged phone ...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
didn't Samsung already state that ZF3's sales had been very successfull?

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3 sales 5 times higher than Z Fold 2 — and Z Flip 3 sales are 40x higher

Samsung celebrates its foldable sales figures while showing off the phones' durability

www.tomsguide.com
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
No numbers just glowing words. More marketing bs.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
Pretty funny how a few of you are weak-minded enough to believe that people are being force fed a product, as if we all don't have a choice.

The vast majority of Fold owners aren't having any problems, and most never will. Unhappy consumers are almost immeasurably more likely to publicly complain than happy consumers are to express their satisfaction. The fact that some of you don't get this is surprising, to say the least. It's as if this is the first time some of you have used online forums.

At the moment, yes, this is a niche device. And, sure, the displays have a limited lifespan as does LITERALLY EVERYTHING in existence.

In reality, most people who buy this device either have more disposable income than others, are technology enthusiasts who like to have the latest "cutting edge" gear, or both. In many cases, these same people (including me) will be replacing their phones with the next flagship device that catches their interest long before their display fails.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
Dig deeper. Sounds like SOMEONE doesn't even own a Doink-It. 🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
That's what pure hype sounds like.

Not an objective review. Everytime a new Fold comes out this happens then well after the release you see reality of what it really is. Fold reviewers like a free status symbol it seems🤣

Ironically the Fold series biggest problem may not be the folding display but it's poor space management inherent by its form factor.

Small outer display, small battery reserve, no SD card slot(s) or built in spen. The former can't be resolved without increasing its form factor width. And is it's already uncomfortably thick. The form factor issue is a daunting one and will not easily be resolved. When you reach the cutting edge of technology... it tends to draw blood.

I want a reliable, useful tool not a status symbol; only if it met both criteria would I have one.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
You have tiny hands, yeah?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy:
I got the Fold 3 because of its usefulness as a bigger screen for my business purposes. Other than the cell roaming signal issue, which hopefully will be fixed soon, it is very reliable. The thickness of the phone while folded is actually a plus as it gives me a better grip on the phone while carrying it/holding it to my ear so that I am less likely to drop it. If it were any thinner while unfolded, it would be difficult to hold while using. I rarely use the outer screen, so its size is not an issue for me, and the phone battery life is great for all-day use (I use it way too much, stupid Instagram!). No SD card isn't a big deal because the storage space is huge (I got the larger size for music and photo storage and have TONS of space left) and I bought the S-Pen Pro with my Samsung free credit, but don't use it because I have only found one use for it, when I was using a house floor plan app to move small things because the size of my finger was blocking me from seeing where I was putting stuff on the screen. Other than that, it hasn't been used, and I don't need to carry it with me anywhere. (I didn’t end up getting that house, so I'll likely use the app again in the future, and will use the pen for that again. Until then, it sits on my nightstand.)

Just because you see the phone one way doesn't mean everyone does. It's crazy useful for me for business and personal uses and I don't regret getting it at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] WZDISMINE:
I thinking someone from lots it's fool, I'm sushi master, I work with gloves on my hands. I can guarantee that the fingerprint can be read through disposable gloves (plastic?), I'm ready washed many times the fold 3 and it's intact.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] hkr:
I like the size of the outer screen. It is way easier to use with one hand that my Note10+ ... Actually, I use the small screen way more than I expected ...
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
Interesting. I see you joined XDA recently.

How's it for texting?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy:
I had to create a new XDA account because I forgot my password and it never sent me the password reset e-mail, which was not the first time I had tried to get it. I've been on other forums here in the past.

The screen is great for texting, and you can either keep it in split view with the conversation list on the left and your chosen conversation on the right, or open the chosen conversation up to full screen (what I normally do). If they text you, you can also just use the Bubble to open their conversation over other apps to respond quickly and go back to what you were doing, which is what I prefer to use, but unfortunately you can't open a Bubble yourself and have to wait for them to text you (unlike with Facebook Messenger where you can select a conversation to open as a Chat Head).

The only issue I've had is that the RCS Chat texting dots turn off way too often for non-Samsung users, and I don't know if that is an issue because of the cell service blipping issue or if it is the texting app or if it is the Google RCS service that has the issue or what. I can put my phone on Airplane Mode for a second and back off of it to get those people's dots back on, but sometimes I have to do it a lot of times in one day (while other days I don't ever have to do it). This app doesn't have a way to turn RCS off, unlike the app on my previous phone, but that doesn't bother me because I like Chat texting. It may be an issue once someone changes phones someday, though, since you're supposed to turn it off before changing phones so you don't miss any texts by them going to the old phone instead.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] badazzbubbanc:
Thats why samsung puts a 2 year warranty on these devices if you gonna complain about something you don't have then don't get it
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] chetly968:
I've never had a problem starting up RCS on my new phone and I've never **** off rcs on mthe previous phone. And up until the fold 3 I used to get a new phone almost monthly. I exclusively use Google messages though, not sure if that is the reason.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] casperswift:
The screen on my z fold 2 was perfect no cracks and same on z fold 3.. I don't think it's something to be overwhelmingly concerned with but definitely get insurance because you just never know..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy:
I don't know, as this is only my second phone with RCS (last phone was an S7 Edge, so about five years old), but I shut it off before switching phones because Google searches warn you to.

Google Messages wouldn't read my RCS texts imported from my S7 Edge, so I can't use it because I need to be able to look back on those texts.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] bs3pro:
Amazing how one poster here keeps bashing the f3. We get it, you don't like it. How about moving on? Also, most here will be trading in out f3 for the f4 when its released, so who cares about longevity?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Mr. Orange 645:
That's his thing. He did the same with the ZF2. And he's never owned either device, so all of his comments and complaints are completely baseless. He just trolls these threads to get a reaction. I suggest just putting him on your ignore list.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
For those of you who STILL can't wrap your heads around the fact that far more people come to online forums to complain (and are significantly more vocal about it) than come to share positive experiences. Even with this unscientific poll, the screen failure rate among Reddit users in one subreddit (at this point) appears to be about 2%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rns95q
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] troyd28:
I dropped mine getting out of the Car few times the sides scratched but didn't break. But we'll see
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
You have some pretty athletic times with Cara, then?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] troyd28:
Typing on the small screen sucks lol only down side
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
You must not type using swipe/gestures. If I can type without the slightest difficulty using Gboard's gestures on the tiny display of my Galaxy Watch4, almost anyone should be able to effortlessly input text on the cover display of the Fold4.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
Given Samsung's track record of problems with all flagship devices released this year I see no reason why the Fold series would be exempt. Especially since it's manufacturing technology and materials are pushing the bleeding edge.

You provide no valid technological counterpoint to my concerns of delamination. Neither does Samsung for that matter. An extended warranty is no substitute for actual durability.

Time will tell by what device has been left still in service and in what condition. So far the Fold series hasn't done well.

Crying troll because you never could take the heat... tough.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
Considering it is WHAT? Do you even English, bro?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] pieces of cake:
What heat? There's heat? He's calling it like it is. We see you, troll. I promise you that you've got better things to do than spend time in a forum and thread about a device you don't like, own or care about. You're here for one reason only, and it's sad bro. Get on.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
This is why there's an 'ignore' list
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] OJsakila:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/robl5b

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rns95q

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rnb547

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rmwhdn

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rn4xwx

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/rm3vi5
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Jake.S:
First link is about fold 2 not 3 so that one does not count.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] OJsakila:
Whatever.. All you have to gonto reddit YOURSELF and you'll see the endless cracked screen posts... No since doubling down now. Lol. All I did was start pulling posts.. I found all those in about 1/2 a second.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Blues fan:
I have to agree. I've been seeing more post on the internet as well lately. Some failure rates are to be expected but I've never seen the amount of posts for S21U, Note 20s, S20u for things breaking like I have for the Fold 3 and the screen issue.

If you really want a fold screen I would go with the Oppo.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] OJsakila:
I'm certainly not arguing and my Fold 3, personally, is in MINT shape and I don't believe it will ever MAGICALLY crack the inner screen. Not without be doing SOMETHING wrong. I'm an experienced fold owner after all ready going thru this with the Fold 1... I think Im knowledgeable in the handling of an early adopting device. I'll, personally, be fine. I hope Lol🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] OJsakila:
A Pouch/Sleeve. Im using the neoprene one I bought off ebay for my oem fold 1 and it hasnt failed me yet! This way I can also enjoy the phone with a dBrand leather skin. It offers the dust and particle protection and the accidental "slip out the pocket" drops. Perfect, imo.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Datdude0042:
I've had mine seance early October, and I'm now seeing hairline cracks in my screen. Anyone else have this issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
Man that's like a nightmare. There's this local website that sells second hand devices and it's full of cracked Fold 2's and 3's. And the most say that their devices cracked spontaneously
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] montrealbagel:
This is why we need Samsung Care!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] ycats:
Can someone post a picture of a crack on the inner screen, curious to know what it looks like.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] chetly968:
Most are having veto al cracks right down area that folds. There's been several over the last day on Reddit a zfold subreddit I believe. All with the same issue. Just opened it up and it was there.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
go back one page. the links are all over
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] dirtybudha:
Hard to take a pic of the ones i got. Literally a hairline crack. Enough to bother me. Contacted Samsung, told him I had never dropped my phone, and they agreed it was just normal use. Therefore, it was covered by the warraty.

Replaced free.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] ycats:
Do we have to have Samsung Care/Premium for them to fix the screen? I thought the device comes with a 1yr warranty.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
The warranty should be enough. Samsung Care + still costs for a replacement. Advice given here is to not mention your care + package, otherwise they may try to charge you under that instead of fixing/replacing it for free as they should.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] cpufrost:
Have to wonder if the cracking may be related to colder weather.

I don't want to even think about opening the phone if it's cold LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Batfink33:
Deleted.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] chetly968:
Some people say yes. Other have had it crack right down the middle in 60-70 degree weather.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] jeromepearce:
I don't want to even think about cold weather. Done with that decades ago!
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] blackhawk:
It doesn't help. Expecting a clear laminate with that bend radius is pushing both the plastic's and adhesive's limits. Both are subject to thermal expansion and contraction.

Worse the underlying AMOLED layer's expansion rate likely differs.

It's not just a matter of times folded but heat cycles from use or just ambient temperatures changes. Samsung forgot to mention that in their temperature controlled fold testing. Did they cycle the temperature during the folding cycle testing?

The added stress of the bend doesn't help matters one bit.

This technology gives me a headache just thinking about it. It continues to cause failures no matter how many times Samsung revises it.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3] Cyrax-001:
^simple science. makes sense
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Jebarnes:
So I bought a oneplus 9 pro from a dude yesterday for 500 bucks which is an absolute steal. I unfortunately however have the Indian version of the software (Oxygen OS 11.2.10.10.LE15DA)(Model: LE2120) so none of my 5g bands are working, which is the main reason I upgraded.

1.) Yes I know there's a very popular forum about how to flash the global version of oxygenOS but the thread gets posted in and updated constantly with different info from different people so it's harder to follow.

I need the following:

1.) Previous IN Oxygen build to downgrade.

2.) Current Global OxygenOS Version to upgrade.

I know doing this can wipe your data but the phone is a day old so I don't have any data. I can easily switch IMEI numbers through TMobile app as well so I'm not worried about that changing if it does. I just want the correct versions of the ROMS so I don't up/downgrade to the wrong versions and critically mess it up. Any help is appreciated and thank you!:)
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Jebarnes:
If I'm incorrect with any of the information I provided please correct me as well. I truly appreciate any information on this topic!
[OnePlus 9 Pro] AndyC76:
Can you post your phone info, I got my from clicking on settings>about phone

I know you already mentioned it in the text, but a picture would help.

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[OnePlus 9 Pro] Jebarnes:
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[OnePlus 9 Pro] Ninxha:
Flashing a global/europe firmware wont fix your 5G. You need to do some extra step and need to be rooted to get the 5G back. And 2120 it's Chinese version which comes with Color OS as primary but sellers found a way to flash Indian firmware there and flashed and sold the phone.

Below you will find LE15DA Indian downgrade to 11.2.5.5 link: https://oxygenos.oneplus.net/OnePlu...110_all_2107082121_downgrade_66a1f653e8ee4eb5

Downgrade to this and then install European firmware but wont get back 5G anyway try.
[OnePlus 9 Pro] Jebarnes:
Any non confusing forum post you could link me in order to get 5g? Or preferably a YouTube tutorial. Thanks in advance