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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] efee123:
That is OK. You allowed to have a different opinion 😅

I think that I'm disappointed due to the fact that for $1000 phone you are expecting that amount of issues.

Regarding the Pixel 5, it is mid range phone so I didn't expect it to have performance as flagship.

I believe that it's more than just a complaint.

I'm seeing frustrated users around the net, and no one from Google is actually addressing their problems.

Also, Along the way, the stock UI was one of the Pixels highlights, and now we are going to be the same as Samsung.

I don't want to return to the times that I was needed to root my phone (as I did on all my Samsung devices) just for give me my best experience (that most of it I had before).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
The phone has been successfully rooted one day after launch, there are several guides in this subforum. I'm not sure where your exact problem is, but it can be solved, since there are dozens/hundreds of people already that use an unlocked/ a rooted Pixel 6 (pro).

Did you re-do your fingerprints after the first firmware update (November)? They changed the setup, the setup now tells you exactly what to do (lay downside, sides, tip of the finger) - it works much better and is more reliable. It can also be helpful to be very gently one (only slightly lay your finger) time in setup, and then next setup you press firmer.

Also, you should always add your primary finger 2 or even 3 times in total. Furthermore, do you use a screen protector? That can cause massive issues in terms of fingerprint readability.

Also keep in mind that the fingerprint scanner might have problems if you add your FP whilst having the protector on, so ALWAYS add the FP whilst having NO screen protector.

Nah, I have to look out for Samsung here for a second, even if I despise them. This is Googles fault and Googles alone. The new Android 12 UI is a joke made for a colour-blind, 80-year-old that requires an unicolor background to differentiate between font size 40 letters & his widgets need to be the size of the moon in order to read the freakin' time. That has nothing to do with Samsung. It's a joke of an UI and Google is fully responsible and whoever signed this off in management needs to be verbally culled from all future decision making processes and be demoted to a cleaning crew.

Then you don't look hard enough. The amount of detail and the supreme HDR experience are easily noticeable. The 150% more light is easily noticeable, even though there are some minor quirks in the camera software right now (lens flare, color reproduction a tad too saturated, might be intentional, I don't like it).

Not even mentioning the fact that the P6 Pro has an extraordinary periscope lens, enabling shots that your bare eyes cannot verify.

I mean, there are people that claim that 30 FPS gaming is the same as 120 FPS gaming, so in the end I guess if you can't tell the difference, then so be it. I can, and easily. It's always the question of personal taste and knowledge. I - as an example - am used to a personal home Dolby Atmos & OLED "theater" and can't stand most cinemas, since their experience is sh*t; most people will never notice, simply because they have no clue what good sound or a panel is. It matters little.

I'm sorry you feel that way, I liked all my pixel phones, quirks or not. Maybe you should have gone for the P6 non pro, it's a lot cheaper and makes you forgive a couple minor quirks more easily.

Do you use 5G? I still can't replicate "always feels hot", I've heard it a couple times. But I'm only in a 4G area and in the last weeks mostly spend time in-doors, so only WLAN. My phone sometimes does get a bit warm, but it's certainly not hot, it's more like an almost cooled tea, yet slightly warm - level. It's noticeable, so it's more than my body temperature, but not by more than let's say 5 degrees Celcius.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Opensystem:
You're not just tapping the fingerprint reader are you? Pressing your finger until it unlocks is much more reliable. As far as Google not addressing anyone's problems/concerns...they haven't really had time yet. Although I'll concede, saying the FPR is taking longer due to security is a pretty lame PR move considering there are reports of non registered fingerprints unlocking people's phones.

I think in a couple months we'll see updates that help with the FPR, the camera applying too much sharpness, etc. Just need to give them time to push the fixes. It's a brand new design from them, there's bound to be some growing pains. Personally I love this phone, I have no problems unlocking it, no overheating, I won the screen lottery, and I've taken some stellar pics. I do believe there are a few phones that fell through the cracks with quality control though, and the first batch has had some issues. The next wave will likely be much more consistent, and the updates will take it from an 8/10 to a 9.5

I hope.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Norma Stitz:
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that phones have just been really damn good for a long time, so it's becoming hard to improve. I came from a 5 year old phone and was expecting a world of difference, but in reality it's pretty much the same experience. Apps open quicker and the battery lasts longer, but the core functionality is actually a bit worse because of the finger print sensor.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] miravision:
Yes, a fingerprint reader that requires a second or two longer each time can add up over time

but I think the rest of the good qualities make up or an inconvenience, a recurring one at that
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Really???

I can only assume you never took a glance at the forum
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] therock3181:
Stop crying and return the phone. It's clearly not for you...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ram4ufriends:
Honestly, with the all the negative feedback, I was hesitant to buy the phone. I got the phone eventually and fingerprint sensor is not as bad as everyone claim to be. It's pretty good for me. I am core android user and used to flash ROMs, mods, etc. I used iPhone 12 pro for last 6 months and man, ios animations are so smooth and I thought android can never have smooth animations like ios. But damn, Pixel 6 Pro with android d 12 is so smooth and pleasure to use. Only couple of complaints I have are very bad auto brightness and I just don't like the system font. Apart from that, I just love this phone. I am sure it only gets better with updates.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ajsmsg78:
This is my first actual Pixel but I've owned the Nexus 6 and 6P. The Nexus 6 had issues at launch with delivery and I remember mine took weeks to get. I loved the size of the phone but the battery drained like no tomorrow and if you did any video recording for longer than 5 mins it would overheat then freeze and shut off. The speakers on the thing were amazing though.

The Nexus 6P I liked as well even though the screen was smaller. My wife and I both had one and one day hers just stopped connecting to any mobile network and it ended up being a dead radio. They also bent very easily and I had to straighten mine out after a short time.

Then I moved on to OnePlus devices as they seemed better to me than the Pixels and I stayed on OnePlus until the 8 series which I didn't like because of the side hole punch and price increase. I bought my wife a Pixel 3a XL. She uses a ton of apps and the 3a XL was a tad slow so after a year I sold it.

Then I went to Samsung and got the Note 10 Plus then the S21 Ultra but the S21 Ultra was super heavy and the photos were underwhelming to me especially indoors and the battery life wasn't too good. I bought my wife a used 512GB Note 9 which she still uses. Then when I saw the Pixel 6 Pro had a new design which I liked I switched even though I despise curved screens and I don't know why Google insisted on going with a curved one. The Fingerprint Scanner I haven't had any issues with thankfully.

The worst Pixel is the Pixel I never owned. This may be the 1st worst Pixel though as it's nothing special over and other device. I'd have to say the Nexus 6 was the worst Google phone because of the constant overheating and terrible battery life but I never actually owned any of the Pixels prior to the 6 Pro.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
what are you getting for battery life
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ram4ufriends:
I just have it for a day. Will update you in couple of days.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] crzycrkr:
Man, the Nexus 6 was probably my favorite of all time.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Loved my 6P, Never sold/traded it. Still runs like a champ and doesn't feel as old as it is :D
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Opensystem:
Double post, sry!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Opensystem:
I know you didn't ask me, but I'm bored so I figured I'd provide a reference since everyone is bad mouthing the life on these things...

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I'm personally very satisfied. The standby life would be better if I stopped using Always on Display, but I'm a sucker for finding my phone in the dark easily
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MixEvo:
I have had a not good experience with my 6 pro!! straight out of the box first power up stuck at Google screen (had to pwr & vol+ to get it to boot) then just skipped all to perform a factory reset . Well after that I was able to set it up and within a hour it had rebooted 2 times , and has continued to reboot multiple times a day while being used or even sitting idle. So its getting sent back to Google tomorrow for "repair" so now after 5 days Its going back hope they just send a new unit. Cause even in safe mode it rebooted ,just hoping it gets fixed .

And its funny cause I picked up a std 6 (was told my pre-order 6 pro was "delayed" so i went to best buy and grabbed the 6 but after i got home and got it setup i get a email saying that my 6 pro shipped haha) the std 6 was awesome I loved it and it had me super excited to get my pro. And ever since i got it I wish I would have just kept the 6 and returned the pro. Sorry for the rant haha
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] bkdodger:
Man I love this phone. FPS has been perfect for me since day one. Just need to let it rest a little longer but no complaints here but I know a lot of people have issues with it. Battery life has been excellent. Screen is beautiful and the brightest in the sunlight of any pixel phone that I've owned ... Overall, this phone is a keeper for me and I expect for it to improve even more during the time of ownership..
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] gazzzy:
Best solution for you is don't buy a Google phone again me and many others don't have these issues maybe you would be better off with an iPhone or feature phone.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] prohibido_por_la_ley:
Probably just a feature phone since he can't be happy with anything
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CrashTestDroid:
After the FPS fix dropped today I couldn't be happier with my 6P. Best Pixel ever? Possibly.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] jim.scheiner:
Heck, I stay away from Google phones. My Nexus 6 was screwed up on phone calls forever before they got around to fixing it. My Nexus 7 tablet was bricked by an update. Google's support is just not up to snuff.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] pucko1:
So, "this phone is the worst I've ever used". Which model? Why not think about giving basic information to your reader? Meeh...😒
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] NippleSauce:
I'm just confused as to why you think this version of Android is a stolen copy of OneUI lol. This is the *Google* Pixel phone lineup. Android happens to be made by *Google*, haha. OneUI is a modified version of the Android UI that you see here, and I've been using this version of Android 12 for a bit over a year already on my Pixel 3XL.

It's okay to prefer Samsung's modified Android 12 UI and using their stock apps over Google's stock apps. Everyone is different. But complaining about the apps and the layout is somewhat questionable on any Android phone being that you can customize these things on Android... I've had Samsung phones before (Note 20 Ultra, S21 Ultra) and personally disliked the Samsung apps for their lack of reliability. And so on my recent Samsung phones, I actually removed the Samsung apps over adb and installed all of Google's stock apps lol.

To each their own, but I don't think that it's right hate things that can all be modified or things that will be patched soon by the development team. I mean, this phone dropped less than a month ago. Of course there won't be any major updates yet as there are probably still some people waiting for their Pixels to arrive. But we'll presumably see the first major update (to fix a bunch of issues that people are facing) after we hit December.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Definitely out of line on this.

Firstly, they apparently fixed the fingerprint sensor performance. And the rest? Well if you don't like the UI, change it. This is a pixel, the only phone that is actually supported in aosp and unlockable, which means that it is MADE to modify.

The rest? You can either like or not like, can't fix. This? Make it what you like.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Not sure how you come to the conclusion I'm out of line. I'm defending the 6 Pro, and saying basically to each their own.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fonix232:
The problem with the "modify your phone" approach is actually a bit more complex.

First of all, most people even here on XDA simply don't have the technical know-how to even build AOSP, let alone get rid of Google's UI changes for a "better" experience (in quotes because "better" is very subjective). So, most will rely on custom ROMs, but in recent years, custom ROM development dwindled a lot (due to the sheer amount of devices available, and also the large number of counter-reasons of running custom ROMs).

Second, rooting and custom ROMs today often hinder more than improve. The continuous cat-and-mouse fight with SafetyNet, apps (even where it's unnecessary, looking at you, McDonald's) checking for root, OTAs breaking things, etc., these are all massively hindering the experience of custom ROMs.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Well that's their own fault for not taking 10 minutes to read the instructions.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Not at all.

What's hindering things is accepting overbearing BS from software vendors who provide software that you don't even benefit from using. *ALL* of that trash that uses safetynet and/or checks for root can be done better just by using their WEBSITE.

Really, you and other people need to have a little bit of self respect. Don't just take the crap that whoever is shoving down at you.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stuff:
I don't understand threads like this.

Are you looking for confirmation of your opinions?

If you don't like the phone, that's completely fine. I'm not sure the need to complain why YOU don't like it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stuff:
Can you show the "Health" tab of Accubattery?

My full battery estimates are much different than yours. By that, I mean, 2-3 hours less than yours on "screen on."
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fonix232:
For someone who's technically adept, sure, it's 10 minutes to read AND UNDERSTAND.

For those who don't even know what repotool is, if you eat it or drink it, or if it's some sort of exotic animal, it's a steep learning curve. You have to understand that not every single Android user who complains about the experience, has that knowledge. Or even a computer that is capable of building AOSP in a reasonable amount of time.

I think it's you who needs to open their eyes and have more respect for others. Most people - most Android users, sans the hardcore purist power users like yourself - want a WORKING device, not an empty slate. Why do you think Linux has trouble getting into the desktop race? It's because most distros lack most of the convenience that both Windows and macOS delivers. People don't want a minimalist OS that doesn't do anything on its own. They want to be able to talk to their friends and family, control their smart home, get data from their smartwatch, read, edit and share documents and photos, and so on. Sure, there are certain features that must be provided by third party apps (e.g. Snapchat, Whatsapp), but people still want core features like cloud storage, backups, even social apps, baked into the OS. Most people like having Facebook, Netflix, Spotify, TikTok, etc. preinstalled. It means one less app to install manually, one more thing they can access directly.

But we're veering off-topic. The case here was that certain people don't like the new UI, and want a more traditional, Android 11 look. That has nothing to do with bloat since the new style is LITERALLY BAKED INTO THE SYSTEM.

Besides, web apps can be incredibly limited, even PWAs. Apps are simply a better solution, especially if you need to work offline from time to time. Banking apps? Work better than a website, especially if you can properly store login details and authenticate with biometrics. Payment apps? Good ****ing luck trying to implement NFC payments (that, by the way, work offline!) through a PWA. And the list goes on. If you think that an average user's "EDC" collection of apps can be replaced purely with websites, you're out of your damn mind. Try to actually understand how people use their phones, and not just go on a tirade based on your obviously limited usage and experience.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] mhsbrian:
I have been on XDA long enough to have owned the very first android device, every nexus, multiple other vendors like HTC, Sony, through all of my Android using years and I can say with confidence this post is as useful as a scented candle.

Thanks
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fonix232:
I mean, the time estimate will change with every person, depending on what they do. Listen to Spotify all day long, via BT headphones? Much less estimated runtime than someone who checks their phone every 2 hours for new text messages. And even more different compared to people who spend their day watching TIkTok videos. These estimates are not relevant for comparison between people, at best they're relevant to compare between phones of the same person, and even then, only if EVERY single user parameter is the same (i.e. same usage pattern, same carrier, same location, etc.).

For example, my estimates are ~ 10.5hr screen on, ~44hr screen off, and ~20hr combined use. Which works fine for me, because I can charge every night.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Krasendo:
Sorry, but when I read "that phone takes pictures like a Pixel 4a" I had to stop reading. This topic sounds like the work of a troll
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
My wife would beg to differ on the scented candle :p :p :p
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stuff:
The estimate is based on the number of charges, and drain calculations.

So my point is, if someone charged their phone once or twice since installing AccuBattery, the estimates are going to be inaccurate if they are not using their phone much.

Thus I want to see how many charges it has seen/recorded
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] dudeman1st:
Stopped reading here and discarded opinion of SamFan troll.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] foobar66:
Hmmm ... my opinion has changed (a bit) ...

I came from OnePlus 8 Pro phone (very nice by the way; rooted with lots of customization to make it look like a pixel) ... wanted to have a pixel but always held off due to all sorts of shortcomings in the lineup ...

Then finally ordered the P6P (based on the nice marketing - I admit) ... Pixel 6 Pro is very very similar to OnePlus 8 Pro in terms of form factor (modulo the camera module) ...

Initially I was disappointed by several things (too much to repeat; I posted it in another thread). But main complaints: clumsy FPS, missed screen touches, no VoLTE, no true dark mode (OnePlus can turn almost all white apps into dark), rootless ad blocking sorta works but horrible

Since then, 2 upgrade releases 15->36 and 36->37, rooted the phone, and some stuff has improved:

- FPS is now good enough (but honestly OnePlus 8 Pro is still a tiny bit better FPS)

- VoLTE I have enabled via root

- with root, turn on the dark mode in developer settings at boot, now *most* of white apps are dark (Strava being the notable exception; OnePlus 8 Pro can turn Strava into dark mode)

And with substratum and Dark Sift theme, I turned Whatsapp/Twitter/Insta in the same dark mode as the Google apps ... so all apps now at least lool pretty consistent in terms of dark color, even my baning apps turn dark ;-)

The quick settings ... well ... horrendous, but you get used to it ...

The 2 most annoying things for me now today, 3 weeks down the line:

- if you tap screen very fast, some touches are simply missed ... I reported that to Google, hopefully this is just a driver (timing) issue which they can fix in software

- I use Nova launcher and there is some "weird" interaction between Nova and the Pixel launcher causing the screen to "flash" occasionally (I can't describe it better)

So, my amount of "love" has increased since day 1 ... but still some roadblocks to overcome ...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
It's just like a scented candle... you can feel the wuv🤣

Expecting the battery usage to be great out of the box is unrealistic on Androids. Sometimes they are and many times they're not.

If not... play with it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fonix232:
So you're talking about estimated capacity, not the estimated time that you mentioned. Estimated capacity has been a stable ~5100 for me (moving between 5080 and 5130) for every charge above 80%.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Watching individual apps is not very productive most times as some of worst offenders are Android services or Google system apps. The logging feature gives a better snapshot and works right from the get go.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Opensystem:
I mean, yeah, but it's not exactly useful for anyone but me. It's just charging habits and whatnot
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fonix232:
I know, and I specifically pointed out that the estimated hours remaining is a pointless comparison specifically because even the same apps can behave considerably differently based on usage. The per-app view can be useful to see which app uses the most battery (i.e. which habit you should consider cutting back on to get better battery life), but even more importantly, the per-app discharge speed can accurately pinpoint battery hog culprits.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stuff:
Right. So what was the point of posting that accubattery tab stats to begin with?

I'm found that accubattery is pretty accurate when you click on the history tab and look at the discharge metrics (from last time you remove from charger) and going from there.

I just struggle to believe this phone can get much over 6 hours of SoT, while actually using the phone, even just sending messages and browsing the internet. How quickly someone gets to ~6 hours SoT is a different question as well.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] mysterioustko:
I have to agree with you. As someone who had every Nexus (except the 6P), I skipped over every Pixel up to this point, because they just weren't quite there yet. This is the first one that gets my seal of approval. And where he calls it being like Samsung, as a bad thing, I think it's a good thing. The truth is, stock Android was lacking in some areas, and One UI added things where stock Android was missing them. It's definitely clear to me that Google took some cues from Samsung, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

What exactly makes it "the same as Samsung", and why is that such a bad thing? The phone still has no bloat, has small added features that stock Android needed, is very responsive and lightweight, and is intuitive. So what exactly is the negative in it being "the same as Samsung"? Which by the way, it's not the same as Samsung at all. But I'd like to see what you have to say.

I live in a 5g area, and I haven't had my phone get warm from it a single time. I'd venture to guess if he finds his phone getting warm for no reason, it's probably something running in the background
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Burt Squirtz:
Fixed.