yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Google are apps are still hit/miss at this point, sometimes they improve battery, sometimes they drain.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Thanks for the suggestion, but all recommended optimisations are tested beforehand.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
It seems "disabling" is the culprit, i never had a good config when disabled
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I was testing adaptive battery
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
So back to square one, no disabling huh
[General Topics] Lurien:
I know but why do you say its garbage after testing?
[General Topics] xxsen:
Hi I seem to have had a problem over the last couple of days with enabling the Google location accuracy, every time I turn it on, it goes straight back off and will not allow any gps information, any help is much appreciated.

No application can learn the location. I also tried outside while driving the car but it doesn't work at all.

EDIT: I fixed. The problem was that I disabled the google service framework
[General Topics] blackhawk:
You can simply disable Framework in its app setting, same for Google play Services.

Together the eat a fair amount of power.

Playstore, Google cloud and Gmail are dependencies of both.
[General Topics] Goku1992:
Also whatsapp is using it. If you delete it it will stop working after a week...
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Trash apps frequently demand Google play Services... take out the trash.
[General Topics] xxsen:
So I disabled the framework from settings/apps, but GPS stopped working in any app, and I needed it for maps
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Gmaps is also a dependency...
[General Topics] xxsen:
Can I install microG without root, with adb uninstall play services and other google apps?
[General Topics] nope.:
skrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
[General Topics] Goku1992:
Yee
[General Topics] kullanici32:
how?
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I JUST SWITCHED TO PIXEL 8​

So no more dev here, unless i switch back to S24 or even S25. I'll be updating my other thread, so make sure to check

Google Pixel Experience - Optimization Guide

for universal tweaks and tips. Otherwise, thanks for sharing this experience, feel free to continue discussing important matters in here, i'll try to respond when possible.
[General Topics] Goku1992:
Wish you much fun mate. Pixel is nice sadly Bad cpu and Modem. Hope to See you again in the future good work mate👌🏽
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Modem seems good to me, great signal. CPU is underperforming compared to S8G2 sure, but still capable enough for my usage (i don't game). Heat management is still an issue but I'm giving it time to settle.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Why this switch?
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Just needed some change, nothing to complain about on my old S23
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Oh alright
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Change? You done gone scorched earth🤣

And still don't have a data drive😖
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
I can confirm that there are no issues whatsoever with this preset. It doesn't overheats, it doesn't over drain. Best preset I've ever done.

One thing: if you have an esim, keep com.sec.android.app.SecSetupWizard and

com.sec.phone installed, otherwise the esim won't install.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
What's battery life like?
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Tbh I don't see how many hours of SOT I do (generally 7/7½ at 20% with mixage usage sometimes), but I've never been more relaxed to arrive at the end of the day knowing that my phone still has enough battery to arrive late at night. For example, I plug out the phone at 8/9 am and I arrive at 1 am with 20% left really easily.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Keep innovating bro!

If you came on here and said "I just switched to iPhone 19 Pro Plus Super Duper Ultra Max" then I might worry a little 🤣
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
can i have your preset ???
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Samsung apps don't need them to run. Most 3rd party apps don't either. The battery savings add up fast over a 24 hour period.

Pretty much had it with Gookill...

People are doing things far worse than this here🤣

What harm?

It's easy enough to turn them back on, no harm done. Maybe need to reboot. That's all.

I recommend you temporarily disable them in settings if not needed.

Gmail, Google backup, Playstore and most Google apps are dependencies. I just don't use that data mining, battery eating junk anymore...
[General Topics] skiku:
Hi,

First of all, thank you for all the help in this thread.

I'm using your presets with some personal modifications and I'm having the same issue with the "show contacts when sharing content" option. Even after getting everything to stock they don't show. Did you managed to fix it?
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Whatsapp and furber? You installed that junk?

Playstore is no longer needed; it's a liability and security risk, still. Most apps run fine without Google anything. The rest can be tossed.

"We"? You can do what you want but that doesn't mean it's a good plan. Google is more oriented to data mining than to getting the task done.

Just look at that mess and none of it is needed by the me 99% of the time. Blocked.
[General Topics] nope.:
nope. waiting on a single battery screenshot on this best preset that disables SoC packages
[General Topics] nope.:
nope. telling the person using pihole (Rethink) to use Knox is about as unresearched as disabling QCC (hint: it still runs in memory while disabled). Spoiler content hidden. and before you go uninstalling, ask yourself if a chipset package, that still runs in memory after being disabled, is something that should be uninstalled when it's trying to tell you something.

less yapping more battery screenshots somebody's gotta beat a week's worth of mixed usage at less than 10% per hour sot.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Nah man i still have some common sense
[General Topics] blackhawk:
People don't think. Then they wonder how they got malware.

I said temporarily disable Google play Services and Framework. Although there's little they actually contribute on a Samsung.

Even gmaps has gotten worse in the last 10 years.

Playstore's running in the background isn't needed or wanted. Playstore has also gotten progressively worthless. Google itself is doing poorly, it's a sick dog now. Their zenith point with Android was Android 9. Much like Samsung meaningful products are rare now.
[General Topics] nope.:
hilarious that the mods decided to wake up and start merging posts after the thread is unofficially closed
[General Topics] markwilly:
Thanks for this detailed guide! A few quick questions:

How often should we do a factory reset for optimal performance?

For battery settings, any criteria for deciding which apps to exclude from the sleeping apps list?

Any tips for balancing camera quality and battery usage?

Does disabling Nearby Share and connections significantly impact app functionality or convenience?
[General Topics] Adi:
What are actual battery benefits of all this?
[General Topics] Green-Y-Cloud:
Why can't I find "gesture" and "biometrics" in the system programs?

Galaxy A55, One UI 6.1
[General Topics] blackhawk:
I have 2 stock N10+'s, one running on Android 9 the other 10. I don't upgrade or update the firmware (the one on Android 9's last update was 12/2019, the one running on 10 is the original factory loaded firmware). The Android 9's last factory reset was over 4 years ago, the one running on 10 over 2 years ago.

Both remain fast, very stable with minimum maintenance (SD Maid Pro, clearing the system cache, troubleshooting any issues that arise which is seldom).

If you don't muck with the firmware or get carelessly infected with malware, Android's can run for years without a factory reset. If you do a major firmware upgrade, factory reset. Same if you can't clear malware 100%.

>Do Not use Adaptive battery! Hand optimize instead.

>Do Not put apps to sleep or deep sleep using Device Care!

I just tried putting a bunch of apps on the deep sleep list. My SOT instantly decreased by around 2% @ hour! Cleared the list and it went back to its nominal 6.5-8% @ hour while using Brave. Do Not use these "power saving" features, they are trashware!

It's ok in individual app settings to disable background data and background battery usage as this will conserve battery (doing so may effect app usability).

Deal with each app on a case by case basis, use app settings before using more drastic measures like disabling it temporarily or permanently blocking it at startup.

Target the power hogs only that you don't need. Leave the smaller Samsung system apps alone generally speaking; they provide UI functionality and usability running only as needed.

Monitor Android Services to see if it's using excessive power ie more than 1-3% @ hour.

Hope your cams work well out of the box after setup, mine do.

Battery usage is determined by % of usage per hour SOT and by usage with screen off. Use Battery Guru.

I disable this junk. I don't use it and it's a potential exploit vector.
[General Topics] WNijhof:
Updated from a S22 to a S24! Personally minimal upgrade but I could get a new phone and I love the small size of the samsung S phones. Now I always did the ADB settings of the OP on my S22. Do these still stand for use on the new phone?

I will stay stock with all apps and settings untoched for a few days to settle the phone. Then I will see how much tweaking is needed.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Yeah. That's what they say.

Or maybe you just get use to a higher standard of drain. In a week or two most will have lost interest.

When you find the app(s) causing the excessive use, it's fixed right that second.

This is what I want to see, not some half baked promises about the future like some bad gf does. Gookill is a bad gf.
[General Topics] nope.:
1. Exactly. Why is it part of your disabled list rather than uninstalled if it runs in memory even after being disabled? Seriously considering not responding to the rest since you don't even know what's going on in your own preset. UAD says a lot of things, it isn't up to me to prove something I didn't claim to begin with. With that said, their description is wrong and I've been doing PRs for UAD-ng to update their documentation.

2. What? Lol. Why do I care about the Google counterpart? You missed my point entirely, in that you were recommending Adhell3 to somebody already using Rethink. You talk about spyware garbage but then you go ahead and enable Knox SDK and see nothing wrong with it.

3.

😭

Still waiting on a single screenshot.

nope.
[General Topics] nope.:
Don't use any of that on your S24 tbh. Do all your settings by hand and use SystemUI Tuner for anything else, namely multi/longpress.

Agreed about adaptive battery.

For device care, I suggest:

Deep sleep + restrict background data on on-demand apps.

Sleep apps that you can afford delayed notifications on.

Remove all other apps and/or set their battery to unrestricted.

Don't add anything to Never, remove any apps that self-populate in there; this category conflicts with the "Put unused apps to sleep" and will cause drain.

This combined with battery guardian + thermal guardian + memory guardian + app booster.
[General Topics] St.RythoN:
What happened to the battery calibration app in the beginning
[General Topics] nope.:
nope.
[General Topics] trevzv:
Does this battery calibration really work??
[General Topics] nope.:
More baseless and unresearched words and no screenshots. Why am I not surprised?
[General Topics] nope.:
At this point, I'm up to something like 15-20 days worth of screenshots with an average well below 10% drain per hour on a 3900mAh battery.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Impressive, can you share your preset? Not sure if I missed it earlier.
[General Topics] nope.:
It isn't.

It doesn't.

It doesn't. If it does, then 1) describe how the system starts to break and 2) show your observed temperature and drain difference.

No such drain exists.

It doesn't and it is placebo.

It doesn't.

You are wrong.

Battery state of health | Knox Asset Intelligence | Samsung Knox Documentation

docs.samsungknox.com

Still waiting on those SOT screenshots. If debloating is such a pointless headache, you wouldn't mind posting screenshots of your week's usage. Your battery usage should be slightly better than mine if anything.

I have it uninstalled. I'm pulling 10 hours SOT on 3900mAh. How much are you pulling with it installed?

Yes.

Yes it will, do not do this. You can brick components of your device by force changing hidden app ops. Uninstall packages and don't touch hidden settings.

You should put Play Store in Sleep and auto-updates should be disabled. App updates can and will include vulnerability fixes. Avoiding updates is counterproductive.

10 hours SOT on 3900mAh vs. ???

You looked at some logcat messages and provided zero supporting evidence in any of your claims.

I'll probably make my own post or Github repo in a little while with full details that are backed with something more substantial than "I read on this on forums".
[General Topics] skovv:
What is the name of the S Pen app, I deleted via ADB and I don't know how to get it back
[General Topics] nope.:
The difference is, I don't uninstall **** with the reasoning of "I read it on forums". Don't project whatever personal issue this is.

And if you are the type of person that games non-stop, that app usage will show as the top % and people will make educated conclusions based off of it. Ok, so you aren't posting screenshots but will continue making bull**** claims, got it.

What the hell are you even talking about? A few hundred mAh difference in production isn't what any of this has been about.

I'm waiting on your screenshots with 10 hour SOT on Light. So far, I had to teach you what SoH was. And I see ZERO mention of how the packages "actually hurt the device". Go ahead and point it out to me.

"(If you can't even disable their permissions, feel free to use App Manager to deny them manually. It won't cause any harm)"

This wasn't you? Suggesting to use App Manager to force disable permissions that can't be disabled? :ROFLMAO:

That must be my fault too.

"I read this on forums" instead of looking up Google source code that has been readily available for 15 years is the opposite of thinking.

I'm also not going to sit here and let you fear-monger with your pseudo-knowledge based on logcat messages.

10 bucks you don't even realize that logcat debug messages aren't output when adb logcat isn't running.
[General Topics] nope.:
Don't worry bro, the Github repo is coming. I'll save people from your bricks of unsubstantiated text.
[General Topics] nope.:
"(I do however agree on the SoHService that somehow Google refused to show me the knox page for it)"

Bet. I'd rather not be able to read than not be able to Google search something that simple.

I posted 15+ days worth of screenshots and you're waiting on me?

Your excuses for refusing to post a single screenshot (because your SOT is worse than mine, obviously) have been:

-Devices, even same models, are produced with varying batteries (negligible mAh).

-Everybody's usages are different.

Oh, and Light mode. That was a good one.
[General Topics] xxsen:
For almost a month now, I've been using only 26apps deleted using its preset and the phone has been working all this time without errors and without the slightest frame drop! And before, with any preset I had framedrops. You use S23, which is stronger, and maybe you don't have facebook, messenger, viber, instagram, because meta applications are the most demanding and they drain the battery the most out of all the ones I have on my phone, and I still have about twenty of them, and the noticeable difference is felt when you delete instagram and Facebook. Now, a phone that is at a "LIMIT" in terms of performance at a given moment, if there are any disturbances in the background, you will see it, but you have a stronger phone with snapdragon and of course you are not at that limit yet. Maybe in 5 or 6 years old, so then you will feel the difference on that phone in some situations, and I often multitask and overheat the phone very quickly, switching from app to app and watching videos on Instagram, the phone heats up, but again less than before when I was using, for example, Hamid's preseet any so far.

For such tests, it is best to use older phones with poorer performance if the general goal is to test the system.

But if the goal is to test the newer Android 14 or 15, then it should be done with some of the worst Samsung series of phones, maybe the A series that has the latest Android but the worst chipset, and on such examples of phones it would be best to see what is happening, whether it overheats and is the phone still stuttering because it loses power searching for applications that fail because it is weak, so the power drain is easier to notice! It is logically difficult to notice it on powerful phones
[General Topics] trevzv:
Which preset?
[General Topics] nope.:
What is "breakage" territory? Describe how a normal user would distinguish this territory from any other.

This would never happen because an update re-enables all packages during the update itself. Name one time you've had an update in which your disabled/uninstalled apps were not restored to default.

No app usage in any screenshot? Wildly different days that never reach 10% drain per hour? You really posted 50% battery drain from 2.5 hours usage from your preset?

Again, coming from the person with zero app usage stats in any of the screenshots.

I'll leave this here for you so you can actually learn something.

Is this also with qualcomm.location and nslp2 uninstalled?

Tell me what those 2 packages are.

Also good thing you typed out paragraphs and paragraphs about how disabling apps is better. Right back to uninstalling, huh.

This won't stop, I'll keep coming back exclusively to reply to you.
[General Topics] nope.:
This is 100% true and is the only reason I may revert from a debloat. There is noticeable framedrops even with One UI and System UI set to Unrestricted battery. This framedrop doesn't exist outside of default/disabling packages and is present only with uninstalling.
[General Topics] nope.:
I'll break it down again.

What breakage can a user noticeably experience with debloating?

In what scenario would the system update without re-enabling every disabled/uninstalled system app?

How the **** are you getting 2.5 hours in 50% drain?

What do qualcomm.location and nsflp2 do?

Did you learn something new about the dumbass claim you made about battery usage screen while charging?

Where is your app usage in those dog**** screenshots?

Why are you back to uninstalling if you spent all that time talking about disabling causing less "breakage" and being superior?

Imagine equating framedrop to making unsubstantiated claims about battery life, device performance, and system breakage. Your head is so far up your ass you're using yourself as a puppet.
[General Topics] nope.:
Hello? 😂😂😭
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
This is why I come to XDA. Endless entertainment.
[General Topics] nope.:
I had to uncrash out to provide it.

On the real though, the Github page is coming.
[General Topics] nope.:
I still got smoke if anybody else wants to delete their account. 🙏
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Lmao bro really crashed out harder than that Tree guy

Thanks for the laughs
[General Topics] nope.:
I am that guy. I just had to change personas, I was tired of being nice.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Lmao you're Tree? That makes it even funnier!
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Oh☠️☠️

So the presets are the same right?☠️
[General Topics] nope.:
🗣️🗣️🗣️

I don't even remember what the last thing I posted was, none of those last few were serious.

I might just publish the Github page in an hour, it's nowhere near done but I plan to finish it. It also doesn't include any ADB or 3rd-party apps, those battery stats can be achieved with just a debloat and on-device settings. The big thing I'll need to publish will be the QR codes for the routines that actually get the setup there.
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
i can recognize Nope is Tree from Nope's first post in this thread. LOL
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
where is the link - Nope "Tree"
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
waiting for your post
[General Topics] nope.:
Maybe another day or two, I need to put the screenshots together.

Works:

+ eSIM

+ Input devices

+ NFC payment/tags

+ Wi-Fi calling

Doesn't work:

- AR

- External storage

- Face detection in Gallery

- Face recognition

- 'Keep display on while viewing'

- Keyboard/browser after debloat

- Samsung proprietary

Don't know:

? Dual SIM

? Video calling

? VoIP calling

Spoiler content hidden.

Re-enable all apps. Remove all apps from sleep/deep sleep.

Perform full updates on:

Software/Security update

Google Play system update

Galaxy apps system update

Play Store

Galaxy Store

Clear cache partition in recovery mode (whether you're resetting or not).
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
thx @nope., but you keep all Meta apps ???
[General Topics] NozGojira:
This is awesome! Did it all what you did and my S21 still runs perfectly and much faster lesser heat now. Hoping this page will update any new features or things need to debloat on the run. Thank you bro 👌
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
You're welcome, this thread gets updated daily with new apps to uninstall/disable while I'm still testing and people give feedback. I just updated the lists, have fun optimizing your device ! Don't forget to limit refresh rate to 96hz .
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I'll try disabling that too, and see how things go. You should too, and if it helps the purpose of OP, we'll add it to the list.
[General Topics] NozGojira:
What is the default max and min refresh rate? So when things i want to back on original. Thanks!
[General Topics] NozGojira:
i did setting the refresh rate at Max (96) and min as (1). but appearing the lowest refresh i had now is 60. but the maximus doing fine which at 96
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
48-120hz is the default
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Lowest refresh rate supported is 48 on some rare situations, so you're fine
[General Topics] NozGojira:
At the moment im stuck at 96hz doesn't change. Before it plays on 96 and lower 60. What do i missed
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Nothing at all, that's how adaptive works, only goes down to 60 on a daily basis. It can go down to 48hz while playing games when you force it under game tools.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Just a regular Geekbench test
[General Topics] NozGojira:
Thanks! Doing fine now. However i uninstall/delete all apps you listed that needs to delete trough ADB app control. Ive still seing them on deleted sections. And can reinstall them right away we need it. I want to ask where does those file deleted saved? On our phone or on ADB app control app? Sorry for questions 😅 i have OCD when it comes on things i want when something deleted on the phone it will totally deleted on system. Not a fan of backups or etc or saved data. So to know my phone is very neat and have clean system
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Yes, your system is clean, don't worry.
[General Topics] NozGojira:
Awesome updates! Must be official section to debloat S21 ULTRA
[General Topics] Furious Froyo:
I haven't been able to uninstall or disable com.samsung.android.game.gos on the T-Mobile variant. There is an error when attempting.
[General Topics] n2851991m:
How do I enable photo sync from the Samsung gallery app to one drive ? That is one feature I use and reinstalling one drive does not seem to have fixed that. (And yes photo sync from the one drive app works, but I want to reenable the feature from Samsung gallery as it syncs to a different folder.)
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Yes, it's a persistent app, along with themes service
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I never used that feature, so I can't tell you exactly what to enable. You can either restore all apps and test uninstalling one by one, or just restore Microsoft stuff and test. Please come back with your findings, we all like to know
[General Topics] car45167:
hi how does disabling vram and zram improve the battery life? And what happens to the phone without them?
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Just apply the preset and follow instructions on the update post