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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] edwincito0_1:
same here

I had a sprint phone with a sim card slot it was the samsung IP 830 it was bad and big but it had the best universal remote control I have seen also for international use. so my contract is up with at&t on december and Im trying to decide if I want to go back to sprint or stay with att sprint data service is way faster and cheaper than AT&T here in iowa cuz we don't have 3G and I doubt we will ever get it so I don't know I like the omnia better than the touch pro so maybe if that device comes to AT&T I will stay.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Raspster:
Well, even thou the 3g IS faster, with the iPhone hoggin up the GSM band and sometimes slowing the 3g to a crawl, I would say the EVDO REV-A is gonna be faster as CDMA does NOT have any slow downs like GSM when its crowded. The only thing that GSM has over CDMA in the states is coverage. I would give this thanks to the iPhone 3g!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
I thought Nextel was IDEN, not GSM
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] salimai:
According to the pictures on this Engadget Mobile post, the Sprint version will in fact have a ctrl key as well as numbers on the top row of keys instead of symbols. That's a big plus as far as I'm concerned.

I'm actually trying to make the same choice between the Sprint and ATT versions of this phone. I'm on ATT now (with a Tilt) and have been for several years with few issues. I've always been a big GSM supporter, but I'm not a world traveller and haven't really used any of the benefits of SIM cards either, so I'm starting to wonder why I'm sticking with GSM. It seems that in the US, it's just an inferior technology. All I've read says that Sprint's Rev A is faster than ATT's HSPA - at least in real world scenarios - and Sprint's coverage (both Rev A and not) is supposedly stronger (reaches inside buildings better) and more widespread (reaches more rural areas).

On top of that, Sprint's prices are far better! I'm paying nearly as much on ATT for 600 minutes + unlimited SMS, MMS, and data as I would on Sprint for unlimited everything (and this is throwing in stuff like Sprint TV and their GPS service as well). If I went for a plan more in line with my usage, I could get their 450 minute plan for $60 if I'm remembering correctly - which saves me about $40 a month.

I've also heard that their customer service is very lenient with discounts and credits, which is something I've never really had with ATT (except when they make a mistake on my bill).

So that's where I stand. Aside from leaving GSM and the price of breaking my contract with ATT, I'm seeing very little reason not to switch over to Sprint. Is there something I'm missing here? Any advice?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
I jumped ship from Verizon to get the Mogul from Sprint. Never been happier. As a matter of fact, I'm as happy as a retard
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Quite possible. I gave up following Nextel 8 years ago after my i95 pissed me off 300-too-many-times. I knew next to nothing about phones back then.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
I agree with most of what you said. Except for:

I have been with AT&T since it 2001, but I signed up for a Sprint data card last summer because I was traveling to Florida, and one of the areas I was going to did not offer 3G coverage on AT&T.

I ended up canceling the service 2 days before coming home because even though I was in the heart of EVDO Rev-A, according to coverage maps and customer service reps, that damn card would refuse to connect about dialup speeds unless I left it sit connected and idle for the first 20 minutes after turning it on... and it was still barely faster then AT&T's Edge network (verified by tethering my Wizard to my laptop and using ICS).

When I canceled the account, I was told that I would receive a full refund of my activation fee and all usage charges because it had only been 10 days, and the service did not work as expected. Fast forward to 45 days later, and I get a letter from Sprint that they're sending my account to collections over $18.58 in unpaid usage fees. I fought that for another 4 weeks, and got absolutely nowhere (apparently Sprint reps can be fired for transferring your call to a supervisor :rolleyes: :confused:).

Long enough story shortened... I paid the money because it just wasn't worth the frustration... but I will never be a Sprint customer again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kextyn:
I was with Sprint for many years before I switched to T-Mobile. The only reason I switched a few years ago is because Sprint's phones sucked. They just didn't have a very good selection (it was mostely flip phones that were all pretty much the same.) I also got my MDA for free on Amazon ($150 before $150 in rebates) so it was a pretty good deal. When I was with Sprint I never really had any problems with customer service but I only called them when I wanted to change my plan or something wasn't working right. I did get a little upset when I was calling them about the federal government employee discount though. I swear I called like 4 times and I would either get put on hold indefinately or the rep would act like she couldn't hear me and hang up after I mentioned the discount. I later found a different number to call about it and it was a much better experience.

I like the idea of being able to switch networks with a phone and take it overseas if I need to. But I have realized that by the time I want to switch networks the phone would be very outdated and I can get a new one with the discounts. As far as going overseas...I could get orders overseas (Air Force) but there's no guarantee that I would even be in a GSM area (is Japan GSM? Korea isn't right?) and if I was they'd probably have better phones anyway.

I think I might just go with Sprint. The pricing is just below what I pay T-Mobile (I only need 450 minutes) and it has the keyboard I want. Now I just have to talk myself into waiting for the TP and not going for the Diamond...of course I could get the Diamond first then give it to my wife if I still want the TP (I'm sure she'd love to watch Youtube whenever she wants.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jkmiec3rd:
Does anyone know the spec differences between the sprint touch pro and the fuze or a link to a comparison? I did a search on here but didn't notice it. Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] salimai:
That sounds like a nightmare. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for sharing your experience. :)

Well, the possibility of world travel is one of the things that's kept me with GSM. I'm a musician and my last band toured nationally and almost internationally (the tour fell through unfortunately), and I wanted the flexibility. But considering the plethora of different technologies and frequencies, whatever USA phone I get is most likely going to be at least crippled no matter where I go anyway.

Japan uses mostly W-CDMA from what I understand. Unfortunately, it's compatible with neither Sprint or Verizon's CDMA nor ATT or T-Mobile USA's W-CDMA.

From everything I've read, it seems that they are identical spec-wise. The two phones have different cases (the Sprint version is a bit more rounded) and the top row of keys is different (Sprint has numbers, ATT has symbols), but other than that I believe they are the same.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
Has anyone actually posted a pic of the BACKSIDE of the ATT touch pro? I don't think I've seen any yet.

Note the sprint version is going to have a silver/grey back with a chrome bezel type thing going around the side:

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/hands-on-with-sprints-touch-pro/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gramsey1911:
Keep in mind best buy has the us 3g unlocked version of the touch diamond gsm version so pretty soon they will get the us 3g version of the touch pro so you can get the 5 row keyboard the way HTC initially set it up without ATT butcher job...Just a little FYI. Best buy should have the unlocked 3g version of the touch pro sometime in November after ATT and sprint lauches their versions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
has it been confirmed that bb will get TP? cuz for all we know the last leak from bb was that they'd be selling SPRINT TP, there was no indication whether they'd be selling unlocked 3G version. Also, can we say for sure they'll carry TP just cuz they carry diamond? I mean, they started selling diamond way before any of the carriers...what stopped them from selling TP ahead of time? also, since 3 carriers will have TP in their fleet, does it make sense for bb to sell a handset that more than half of the US carriers have? where's the profit in that? just some random questions I kept asking myself. If anyone would enlighten me it'd be much appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] salimai:
I also would like to know if this has been confirmed. It's definitely an interesting option if it is indeed true. Unfortunately, with the Diamond having a $700 price tag, I'm not sure that this will be a reasonable option no matter how tempting. I know some people are willing to drop close to $1000 on a phone (it might not be that high, but I would expect it to be close since the Diamond is so spendy), but not me.

As far as the carrier choice goes, the posts negative toward Sprint have only been related to customer service issues (which may or may not be widespread) rather than coverage, signal quality, data speed, CDMA vs GSM, etc. I have to say I'm a bit surprised. At this point I'm taking that to mean that switching to Sprint might be the right choice. Would anyone else like to chime in?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TaurenSnake:
Well for me i will have to stay with ATT. I live about 20 miles outside of Austin, TX and ATT gets much better signal than Sprint which my old roommate had. I have pretty much noticed that in Texas at least if you are gonna do much outside the main cities then ATT is pretty much the best option.

Question for other ATT customers, I get a company have my company discount of 20% discount on new hardware associated with my account but I have been told by the reps on the phone that the discount cannot be applied with the contract renewal price. This makes an odd choice since i will not use the rebate form since i don't want to switch from my Media Max 200 plan to the Pda Plan.

Options:

1. No contract renewal and suggesting a retail of $549 - 20% brings a cost of $439

2. Get with contract renewal making price probably about $399 without rebate.

3. The rep was full of it and I can use the contract renewal and the 20%.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
I had no problem buying the Tilt using AT&T Premier and renewing my existing contract.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Touched?:
http://wmpoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/attfuze.jpg

Wow, ATT's keyboard of the htc IS really ugly!

Also I'm almost positive that ATT will get the "watered down" camera. 3.1 MP.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
3.1? how did the 0.1 reduction come about? cameras are usually set at certain MP...haven't really heard of any 3.1MP cameras

and on the bright side, there is OK BUTTON!! that more than makes up for the lack of top row numbers imo
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] starscalling:
the media max 20/month unlimited data + 200texts and higher qualifies you for the rebate. if you talk to a GOOD rep they will tell you that, or if you actually read the small print. they are SUPPOSED to sell you a pda plan, and tell you that it might not work without one, and if you have any problems blame it on that, however AFAIK there's no real difference, it's still [for the most part] the same hardware infrastructure from what a tech was telling me, but perhaps someone else can weigh in and let us be sure :P [the rebate bit i'm sure of- used it with my tilt, i mean the speeds/quality of pda vs MM]
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Touched?:
AT&T

Euro

Sprint

Am I right? Thats my theory.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
the unlocked looks best

but what the hell is with 3.1?? why would they lower it that makes no sense
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Touched?:
Also that same phone with the 3.1 MP camera appears to NOT have flash! Like I said before.... a watered down camera.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
while the "AT&T Fuze" looks nice, i remain skeptical...3.1MP camera just doesn't make sense. Probably costs more to make that adjustment than to offer the 3.2MP's. i guess we'll find out in a few weeks!!

Edit: I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification, wmm.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
I don't think they "adjusted" anything other than the label. 2048x1536 is 3,145,728. Traditional rounding makes that 3.1MP, marketing-math makes it 3.2MP.

What I'm more concerned about is the purported lack of a flash LED. Most of what I want to do with the phone camera is to take photos of documents (labels, recipes, receipts, ...) and upload them to Evernote; lots of times that's done in dim indoor lighting, and an LED would improve the quality under those conditions a great deal, potentially making the difference between Evernote being able to do OCR on the result or not.

I do note that there is no mention of a camera LED in the "preliminary" specs for the Fuze on the HTC wiki, although I don't think that is conclusive. However, the test unit Black93300zx made such a splash about a few weeks ago definitely did have an LED (there's a photo to prove it in his thread). Where did the "AT&T" photo in the posting by "Touched?" come from?

A number of posters here have supposedly seen and handled the Fuze, and none of them have mentioned the lack of an LED flash, so I'm hoping this is an incorrect rumor. It probably wouldn't keep me from buying the Fuze when it comes out, if true, but it does take some of the edge off my anticipation.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gramsey1911:
I know a district manager that works for Best buy and he told me they are getting the us 3g unlocked touch pro...I am on the fence about getting the Fuze and The touch pro will have everything it is supposed to have...No chopped down version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] skyfox99:
If the launch date for the Fuze is correct 11-04, my guess is that the Fuze will have the 3.2 with the diamond backing and a LED... The release version that just came out just over a week ago had all of that, and I find it hard to see that major of a hardware change so close to release... that is to say it is not delayed further.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
if i'm correct, i believe the first picture Touched? posted was the tmobile uk backing, the euro one is correct, as is the sprint one, but one can note that the tmobile unit and the sprint unit share the aluminum, more rounded body unlike the fuze. supposedly, the fuze shares the same steel frame as the euro TP, which would lead (my guess) to it having the same (or similar) angular back as the euro TP.

the other covers would not fit. they are simply a different shape.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
My Fuze had the same 3.2MP camera that the European Touch Pro had.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
are we correct to assume a faceted (diamond-esque) back?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Mine had it, it was glossy but a charcoal-ish gray color, maybe a little lighter. I liked it a lot, looked good.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
i hope by charcoal-ish you mean the semi-rubbery, not as much of a fingerprint magnet, less scratchable, higher quality coating that's been praised about the TP?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Wasn't rubbery, it was glossy... But because it wasn't black, it didn't attract fingerprints as much. I have a picture somewhere...

Obviously didn't wipe it down before taking that pic, that's about as fingerprinty as it gets.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
actually, its kinda sexy. it works with the at&t branding/theme on the device. thanks for all the info, black. (at the same time, i guess we have you to thank for all this anticipation!)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Haha well, the guy that bought it off of me said the 1 thing he didn't like was that his rubberized back on the Euro version stayed on his dashboard through driving and with a glossy back, this one obviously wouldn't say in place. I really did love the phone when I had it, but as I've said before, I don't think it's worth $1,000. For $300, I don't think anyone will feel they didn't get their money's worth.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
agreed. 300 is a steal for this phone. honestly, i'll be happy to have just about any device again, after my wizard died on me.

for me, this is going to be an upgrade of epic proportions. for the first time, i'll have a truly functional wm6 device. i cant wait.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
6.1 ;)

im just hoping it has a better lifetime on it then my 8525 or peoples 8125 since most peoples tilts have held up i figure it should be fine

for the first time ever im actually considering insurance though :/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Oh boy, it turns out the newer pre-release versions don't have that gray backing, they have black...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2795027&postcount=215

FINGERPRINTS GALOOORE
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
yes 6.1 :D

but the important part is, its natively 6.1, im not jerry-rigging it.

i agree about the lifetime thing, although my wizard lasted 3 years. insurance might be a good idea, you know how htc phones like to do funny things :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] theomni:
Hey guys!

I'm really looking into getting this phone.

I just had a quick question for the camera: Does it make that noise when a picture is taken or can that be turned off?

thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
i saw a video review of the euro tp, and it did not make a sound whn taking the picture. not sure if this carries over to the fuze or not...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] theomni:
hopefully it wont.

I will ask those who all aready have it in the US.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nyckid211:
I have a euro tp. It does make a shutter sound, which can be turned off. thats probably the case in the video.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] themyst:
The Fuze's funky keyboard layout makes it a no-go for me. Why would AT&T change around the pro's layout which is as close to a normal qwerty layout that you can get on the market today?

As for the person who said Sprint isn't going to be around much longer, they still have 50 million subscribers. The only reason they're NOT #1 right now is because their tier 1 customer service is worthless and their advertising department needs an overhaul. Notice they keep pushing the wrong devices? Personally I think they should have pushed the Diamond to be their flagship as opposed to the Instink. That phone has no versatility whatsoever.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Because it's a phone, and you type a lot of numbers on a phone. It's a lot easier to type a string of numbers in a numeric pad than with them spread out across the whole width of the keyboard, way up at the top. (And no, you don't have to hit FN before each number; hit FN twice and then the string of digits, then FN again to go back to the alphabetic keys.) Having commonly-used symbols available without a shift is convenient, too.

It wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me either way, but I have to say I'm quite happy the Fuze has the revised keyboard instead of the original one; it's a good deal more practical.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] john nance:
I have both the Sprint version and the Fuze. The spec's are the same, but the camera on the Fuze has been modified. It looks to me like they put a brownish protective screen over the camera inside the back cover and left the holes in the back cover open. The Sprint version has no screen or filter over the camera inside the cover, but has a clear plastic protector built into the back cover. The results? Pictures taken with the Fuze look old and brown, where as pictures taken with the Sprint version are very clear and detailed, and are the best I have ever seen taken with a cell phone.

As for the keyboards, the Fuze seems to be the better one. To me the keys on the Fuze seem eaiser to feel while typing.

The networks? In my area the Sprint network is much better than ATT. (Portland OR.)

If anyone has managed to remove that brown screen on the Fuze camera please post a how to...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] AssassinsLament:
I previously owned a Sprint Touch Pro for a week, then returned it and got the ATT Fuze. Here are my thoughts. Internally, I like sprint's much more, including the GPS and camera. Externally, sprint's feels rather cheaply made, the battery cover squeeks and just doesn't feel that great. Plus the chrome just isn't my cup of tea. ATT's exterior feels better, feels well put together, and slightly heavier. I don't like the glossy finish, because finger prints stick to it like glue. The GPS doesn't seem to work right on the ATT model, although I could just have a defective phone, I'm going to exchange it, if I can't find a solution. Oh, and one cool thing is Sprint disabled the FM radio, but the Fuze still has it, you just need to install software to use it. And lets not forget about the data plans, no one beats Sprint on that, but then again in my area, (twin cities) sprint's coverage isn't as good as ATTs.

Hope this helps someone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ilordvader:
Does the Att Fuze have Call etticate ?

whene the phone is ring you just turn it over & becomes silent

how to activate that Plz ?

anyone knows
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JstarLuvsTina:
ok so today i actually got to sit and compare my Fuze to my brothers Touch Pro

the only real differences i saw are :

-keyboard set-up - (touch pro is more like an actual keyboard)

-weight - (touch pro is lighter, which means its alot more fragile :D)

-connection - my Fuze was super fast. Sprint took forever to load sites.

-keyboard backlight- Fuze has the At&t Blue, Touch Pro has the Sprint Green.

other than that..there real similar.

sprint has there fair share of bloat ware, as well as at&t

too much alike. i must say tho, i did like the icons sprint had tho on the top bar, thats probably the only good thing i have to say about Sprint, lol.
[Redmi 9 Power / 9T] strelo8989:
Hi Everyone,

I have a problem with my redmi 9t Miui 12.0.17.For example if I charge battery from 50% to 80% my battery graph will reset and it will reset active time and Screen on time to 0.

Also reset of battery graph happens when I restart my phone.

I saw that after my update of MIUI.

How can I solve it?

Thanks
[Redmi 9 Power / 9T] Atanassoww:
Try with a Factory Reset.
[Redmi 9 Power / 9T] strelo8989:
Solved, the problem is happening only when graph is above 90%. :)

Only problem of 24h graph remain, it cannot show more than 24h graph.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mrootman:
Hi All,

I tried to search in the forum, but no answer was found:

My device was bought with:

ROM 1.82.707.0 WWE

DATE 11/03/07

RADIO 1.27.15.32

Is there offcial upgrade for WM 6.1 for my devise , so I can install it w/o cracking?

htc.com says that there is no upgrade for my S/N, but I saw following post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=419064 which says different.

Please advise,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cyjeff:
Boy, you must really love punishment... because you are about to get flamed as never before.

On the other hand, if you DO love punishment, get yourself a cold one, put on your GOOD underwear, and hang on tight....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
Wow, Unless you are kidding, tell me you are kidding, you must not have a Kaiser. There are official WM6.1 ROMs for the Kaiser everywhere.

Every custom ROM is based of an Official WM6.1 Build. I bet you could find what you are looking for in the Wiki.

Thread Closed Pursuant with the guidelines set forth in the Kaiser Section Announcement and the Forum Polices.
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