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[General Topics] rodken:
Apparently, there is currently a bug that is affecting US Variants only - possible work-around

Findings - Extremely noticeable scrolling lag in almost every app. (Including native apps like settings, messages, etc)

An issue with the touchscreen inputs and the refresh rate. Releasing your finger when/while scrolling causes the device to drop down to 60 FPS.

You need to enable ADB, and use the command given for the app to work - you can utilize LADB or from Windows.

-- Not quite a sustainable fix because of possible battery drain - but 'do-able'.
[General Topics] rodken:
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[General Topics] blackhawk:
Wow. Does setting it to 60hz stop that behavior?
[General Topics] Blackfyre:
Do not have an issue with drop to 60Hz / 60 FPS when lifting finger.

Australian here.

The above method, even forcing 120Hz all the time did not resolve the scrolling lag that happens with that reddit thread for example (as a good way to show it with WQHD resolution), and then on Twitter as well. These are the two apps I use the most on my phone, so it's very noticeable for me.

Also enabled GPU Watch in developer settings and CPU & GPU both do not go over 25% usage for example when that massive stutter happens. So, it's not even a hardware bottleneck, or a 120Hz issue.

Not sure, but I really hope all this lag with this phone that literally costs $1900 when I got it in Australia in April are fixed when OneUI 5.0 is released. Otherwise, this might be the last Android phone I'll ever buy.
[General Topics] rodken:
Bear in mind that the constant fluctuation of the FPS seems to be the culprit and YMMV based on what tricks/tweaks you throw at your device.
[General Topics] rodken:
Do you suspect that the Twitter lag and possible other lags on your device is connected with the Exynos SOC?

-- Switching the resolution in display might help - try to change it to Ultra HD then back to 1080p.

N.B.: At least we know that OneUI is causing the problem and not Android itself.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
You have the option in settings to set to 60hz refresh rate?

So does that stop the lagging? Is it more an illusion than actual lag?

Much more in power savings when set to 60hz?

Just curious how these devices behave.
[General Topics] Blackfyre:
We don't have Exynos anymore in Australia on all of the S22 line-up.

I have a Snapdragon model with 12Gb RAM, so the highest possible model.

And yes, as per original comment, FHD fixes the reddit stutter, but doesn't fix the Twitter stutter.
[General Topics] rodken:
My wife owns the Z Flip 3 and I have been toying with it for a while spite the fact that she doesn't use Twitter.

Therefore, I am not able to replicate the issue, but the theory behind it is a higher refresh rate is supposed to produce smoother motion and transitions which in turn could be more of an illusion [but not snake oil].
[General Topics] rodken:
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Have you tried

-- disabling video Autoplay

-- "log out of all other active sessions" within the app settings

N.B.: Settings - Accessibility, display and languages - Data usage - under Video, set video Autoplay to never
[General Topics] blackhawk:
You misunderstood me I think. Higher refresh rates certainly look smoother.

What I meant was the lag was an illusion caused by the device "hunting" for the frequency to use giving the perception of lag. The jitters rather than lagging; if it disappears when set to 60hz this would indicate it to be so.
[General Topics] Mugetzsu:
I used the Galaxy Max Hz app
[General Topics] Meruzzi:
how I install a system app after debloat
[General Topics] blackhawk:
https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-install-get-back-uninstalled-apps-apks-with-adb.3894235/
[General Topics] REDGxHD:
Hello everyone. What options do you recommend turning on or off in terms of being able to play without so many problems?

For example, in game booster (labs) there is an alternate game performance option, should I turn it off or keep it on?

What about game plugins?

I'm looking to play in not so many graphics and not get so hot
[General Topics] Meruzzi:
What app I need to restore to come back to the old style?
[General Topics] Meruzzi:
Guys, I using the security folder but I selected the option to Always Lock the Apps after close, but this donst work, alway I unlock the screen and unlock the security folder He only Lock again after lock the screen and turn on again. how i fix
[General Topics] Gymcode:
Has anyone tried Naptime, specifically (Doze Google Play Services) to optimize battery life?

I'm on S22, and I seem to have delayed notifications. Wonder if this is obsolete anymore, or are there fixes/workarounds for this.

Thanks
[General Topics] rodken:
As a rule of thumb

Google Play Services is usually set to "Not Optimized" by default because it provides some core functionality that you may not want to lose when your phone enters 'Doze Mode'. Most notably, FCM, the service many apps use for notifications, is bundled in with Google Play Services.​

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This means that if you use this mod to enable Battery Optimization (and thus, Doze) for Google Play Services, you may not receive prompt notifications from certain apps in certain circumstances. When your phone enters Doze Mode to preserve battery life while the screen is off, apps like Gmail and Social Media 'fluff' apps may take longer than normal to notify you of new messages.​

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N.B.: You are free to choose which apps to bypass doze within the app.​
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Here's my personal comparison review from switching from S21 exynos to Pixel 6:

What's better on Pixel 6 (After full optimisation):​

- Battery.

- Camera processing and rough situations handling.

- Clean and smooth software (Been on Android 13 since April).

- Performance/Heat management.

What's better on Galaxy S21 (After full optimisation):​

- Build Hardware & structure.

- Telephoto lens, i miss that zoom capability.

- The screen experience in general.

- The form factor, in hand feel and ergonomics.

- Software options (i miss some OneUI features).

- Speakers.

Still updating ...
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Google play Services, something I wuv to hate.

It's always nibbling at the battery.

Normally I disable it and enable only to get Gmail, use a few parasite apps that need it, or even more rarely to go to Playstore.

Samsung Text Messages apk works fine with it disabled on my N10+'s but they are on Android 9 and 10. On higher versions may not work but likely will unless you disabled a needed dependency. Don't disable anything that isn't hogging the battery. Junk Digital Wellbeing, Emergency Alerts... just kill em.

If you need notifications for more than text messages... Houston we have a Google Play Services power drain.

Pick your poison.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
I am having issues connecting to my mobile network and sending MMS on AT&T's FirstNet network. Multiple tech support reps INSIST everything is correct on their end and their troubleshooting has resolved nothing(as often happens anyway). I was wondering if there may be some sort of service or something on here that I'm not recognizing the name as something I'd need.

If it helps in diagnosing, I can't even dial *#06# to retreive the IMEI# from the Phone screen. All calls when I click Dial immediately go into an Ended state.

Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks much in advance!

*EDIT* I was able to fix my MMS messaging by enabling "com.android.mms.service". I have tested several other pacakages related to "SIM" or "broadcast" and no luck yet in restoring my calling
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Post a list of what you disabled.

Maybe someone can spot it.

Ask AT&T to do a network reset on their side.

Network reset on your device.

Clear system cache from the boot menu.

Clear data in Sim toolkit apk.

Never disable an apk unless you know it's function and hopefully it's dependencies if any.

Using a package disabler is much easier as you can edit on the fly. Some apps I normally keep blocked unless I need them.
[General Topics] rodken:
If you want to tackle the diagnostic portion of your issue - install the Google Phone Dialer for short codes.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
I was able to get it working by enabling IMS services. I had a feeling it was something disabled here but wasn't sure. No harm, no foul, got the dialer working per this post https://xdaforums.com/t/samsung-gal...formance-stability-heat.4376755/post-86751735
[General Topics] jgruberman:
and I usually don't just blindly wipe out things but since this new device is a Warranty replacement and I have two phones in front of me... I figured worst case I screw up the new one and I still have the old one LOL
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Oops... at least you found it. If it's rarely or almost never used you could fail to notice the loss of functionality.

Lots of cool tricks these flagship phones do...
[General Topics] jgruberman:
Are there any services on here that pertain to the Galaxy Wearables stuff? My Gear app is on an endless loop trying to configure my Watch 3 to the phone...
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Show a list of what's disabled... someone might spot it.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
Thank you for chiming in, but yet again I was able to figure it out by searching this massive thread. I don't know what combination of these did it, but I ended up restoring the Connectivity apps and the Your Phone Companion app. This got me past the screen where I was stuck
[General Topics] blackhawk:
The difference in system apks on N10+/Pie vs my N10+/10 is close to a 100 new system apks.

Most are small and only active if needed, almost all of these should be left alone. Surprisingly both N10+'s look and behave almost identically. The disable list I use on the Android 10 variant is also almost a carbon copy of the Pie variant. I still prefer the Pie variant; easier to work with and better app functionality.

I imagine the S21U with Android 11/12 has even more of these small system apks...
[General Topics] jgruberman:
I agree... there are so many tiny interdependencies, it's hard to figure them all out. For example, my newest challenge is figuring out why my location setting don't entirely work. My GPS works, but whenever I open a browser page that uses location(and has access via perms), it brings up an entirely different region or none at all.

Even my Smart Lock settings has my home address GPS location grayed out and doesn't let me select it. I'm sure it's just a little APK or two that are working together to make this happen, but I gotta figure out which :(
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Look for anything that has "sdk" in it...
[General Topics] jgruberman:
Only Uninstalled "*sdk*" is com.samsung.android.sdk.handwriting and I can't imagine that's necessary?
[General Topics] blackhawk:
There's no need to strip out everything. That particular apk just sits there and use no resources unless used. It may be loaded up automatically into ram but you see how small it is.

Use Device Care>memory and see what it's loading up. Clear it and see what auto loads and when.

Useful in finding/fixing problem apps and behaviors.

3rd party apps like Brave browser can be some of the worst offenders (I manually close it out to prevent it from running constantly in the background, that's its fix).

Target what you disable. I have roughly 80 apks disabled. What I disable may not be right for someone else though. It's by playing with it that I find dependencies.

This gives you more insight (Android 10,11,12 may be set up differently):

Note on my N10+/Pie this apk is only active when in use like for screen shot writing (yes you lost that valuable tool). As soon as it's close the apk is inactive. Doesn't even show in the ram cache of apps.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
Are you describing how I can determine what is trying to use my location services? I wanted to get my GPS features to work properly...
[General Topics] blackhawk:
If you enable it you might spot it loading like that.

It can't load if disabled... there's no trace of it.

You're starting to understand what I mean about dependencies...

It could an app that grants permissions. The scoped storage operations are a mess, remember all those small new system apks?

Cause and effect may be the only way to track it down unless someone can ID it.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
On a side note - my phone seems to be downloading a 1907.30MB update right now(this is a brand new device, warranty replacement so not 100% set up). Is there any issue with me installing this? Will it cause any issues?
[General Topics] blackhawk:
A crap shoot. It will change the playing field.

May fix glitches or create new ones.

May update the bootloader making a rollback impossible or patch a rooting hole.

Best to let Mikey try it first, he eats anything.

I haven't updated this N10+ in 2.5 years, no issues. Study the results of the update first.

Use users reviews rather than the mainstream fake reviewer sites that say everything new is good🤣
[General Topics] jgruberman:
My particular device isn't rootable to my understanding.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
The point is upgrades can limit your future firmware options.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
That makes sense, thank you. Is there anywhere that you can refer me to that lists updates and what they entail? I've been unsuccessful in finding changelogs for system updates that my phone wants to install
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Not that I know of. What Samsung says is in it isn't all of what will be changed, fixed, or if it even will work. If you found good work arounds already it's probably counterproductive to update/upgrade.

That's my view on it... and it works well in actual practice.
[General Topics] jgruberman:
I guess a better question I should have asked is: "Will a software update impact any of the specific apps I've Uninstalled here?" Or is it just a matter of re-disabling anything that it enables? I prefer to stay updated but I also prefer to keep bloatware minimal.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Best practice to enable the blocked apps before updating/upgrading. Don't know for sure but you risk opening a can of worms every time you update/upgrade.

The only things that caused me trouble and wasted my time in the 2 years wasn't malware... it was Samsung apps that auto updated!🤣

So... are you feeling lucky today?
[General Topics] Xerme:
I have a problem , i tryed all and readed every app . But i cant use samsung pay or knox settings because when im gonna config i had this error:

"Opening secure keypad, please wait"

Never opens , i dont what package i need to re enable to use this.

Can someone help me
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
What are the other packages to restore that is responsible for connecting galaxy wearables for example: galaxy buds, excluding the com.android.companiondevicemanager ?
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
And what is the purpose of com.samsung.android.callbgprovider? Is it safe to uninstall?
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Try this.

It's not present in Android 9. Probably started with 10.
[General Topics] NozGojira:
adb shell cmd package bg-dexopt-job

-im having failure result when flashin that command
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
Saw it from the site but i didn't see any description for what its purpose. Maybe in-call background ui or something?
[General Topics] blackhawk:
I don't know. The only other thing I could find was a vulnerability in it Samsung patched.

At 60mb it rather large. May even crash something you want.

Android 10 and up have all kinds of new apks. Quite the pain. Android 9 is much more compact and easier to debloat.
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
I agree. I had no problem debloating my S8+
[General Topics] blackhawk:
It's a mess. One of the reasons will I think Pie was the zenith of Android. Kitkat had even less then 8. 10 doesn't do anything that matters to me that 9 can't do. In fact 10 kills some trusted apps and is harder to troubleshoot.

I have 2 N10+'s, one's running on 9, the other 10.

I imported my disabled list from the one on 9 to the new one running on 10.

The list for both, for now, is nearly identical until I play with it more. Many of the small Samsung system apks probably shouldn't be messed with.

I will see which ones are resource hogs and popping up a lot then go from there. Scoped storage is a mess... I think that's what caused this change.
[General Topics] rodken:
Much to my surprise - I was able to utilize this hidden gem bearing in mind that YMMV based on which device it's being flashed on.

-- There is supposedly a method via ADB to disable Scoped Storage.

N.B.: Be prepared to back up your entire internal storage for peace of mind.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Hell yeah if it works. Only on rooted devices though, right?

There should be the option to do that in Developer options, but there's not...

Android 9, nice!

Android 10, not as functional...

Android 11, forget it!

Android 12, just fade away.

Android 13, both barrels, double 00 buck
[General Topics] rodken:
If there is any consolation - I was able to flash the module on two different occasions on a OnePlus 8 [rooted Android 11] and OnePlus Nord [rooted Android 11] and was able to hit pay dirt.

N.B.: There is also an interesting write-up regarding this topic geared towards Samsung.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Excellent.

How was it running before and how's it running now?

Any SOT, speed, usability/functionality improvements?
[General Topics] rodken:
File access speeds and loading of folders have improved [no snake oil here]- but not limited to a bump in speed of transferring of files 'to and fro'.

-- I haven't done any further tests, e.g., SOT, I/O Performance, Stability, Smoothness etc.

-- I have another device to play with to test another set of commands on a per app basis.

adb shell cmd appops set <app-package-name> android:no_isolated_storage allow
adb shell cmd appops set <app-package-name> android:legacy_storage allow
[General Topics] blackhawk:
Roughly how much?

Can older pre scoped storage apps now be installed/run?

Since I run stock devices now it's no use to me... for now.

Great find👍
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
com.samsung.android.scpm

com.sec.android.sdhms

Which of these packages when uninstalled may cause battery drain? Thanks
[General Topics] AndroidWars:
Both when uninstalled sdhms its coming back again. U can disable. U can uninstall scpm but u cant use sleep/deep sleep features. I tryed battery draining very fast. (U must restrict apps from standby apps) but when u open restricted apps changing active all the time. Thats hurting battery.

+ Info = I was using bixby routines for only auto rotate (for gallery,videos,youtube) I uninstalled because with bixby routines last version always using location background (and doesnt let u turn off location) and draining so much battery.
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
So with that being said, i'll just let them be installed so that there is no draining of batt will occur? Can someone confirm please?
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
@Hamid Chikh
[General Topics] mcdotcom:
Hello, same here... my Device S22 Ultra.. Idk why..
[General Topics] rodken:
Maybe try this method and be mindful of incorrect typing of command(s).
[General Topics] mcdotcom:
Hello,

thank you for your help! now it works.. i have to wait a few minutes with the command.
[General Topics] KKYASIR:
@hamid

after applying first new adb commands batches i cant see Check box mark when selecting any file , pictures in galley ... i can select them but the check mark in box disappeared
[General Topics] InfamousMykol:
If you have set the animations less than 0.5x you need to set them back at least 0.5x or more
[General Topics] KKYASIR:
Thanks it worked .
[General Topics] Meruzzi:
Wich app I have to reinstall to look like the second picture?
[General Topics] meternich:
Hi. My device is s21fe. I successfully debloated it with this thread list. For now i didnt noticed anything wrong with the phone. How do check battery stats, because these option dissappeared in settings.

Do I really have to restore all apps before an update of the phone? I think there is an update almost every month...

Thanks for the great work, I almost cannot believe, that I uninstalled cca 330 aps and phone is working just fine.
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
for the battery stats i think you have to restore com.sec.android.sdhms. And yes you need to restore all apps before you apply the update to prevent some errors or conflict. I once updated my phone without restoring the uninstalled apps, after that the settings app always crashing. Ended up factory resetting my phone
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
also com.samsung.android.scpm
[General Topics] blackhawk:
You likely disabled something you will miss. Around 80-100 is a more reasonable number.

No way to know unless you know exactly what you disabled does and any dependencies it may have. Many apks just sit there using little or no resources unless needed; no reason to disable those unless they directly interfere with usability or functionality, likely just the opposite.
[General Topics] KKYASIR:
how to get back app drawer search box to search an app?
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
i guess com.samsung.android.app.galaxyfinder ?
[General Topics] KKYASIR:
Thanks
[General Topics] meternich:
Thanks. I didn't have scpm app, com.sec.android.sdhms was already enabled. The app that got my battery settings back was com.samsung.android.lool aka device care.
[General Topics] blackhawk:
If you want a striped out Samsung you can go nuts and disable every apk in sight but I don't see a good reason to do this for most users.

Case in point, Finder uses no resources unless used. It's a very useful app when you need it.

Target the power and resource hogs that serve you no purpose. Dependencies... are there any for the apk you're killing?

Otherwise you'll at the best you'll spend a lot of time back stepping, at the worst never realize some of the devices capabilities or ease of operation.

If you have hundreds of disabled apks, you likely killed a lot of useful features.
[General Topics] Emre67511:
Scpm is com.samsung.android.sm.policy
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
Priority mode not working even tho it's on via game launcher. Help
[General Topics] Ardysan:
Thank you, yes, I figured it myself. I used it for a few apps which always used to have hours of background while not supposed to have been doing anything in background.

Choosing them in deep sleep helped. Would be great to be able to do it again.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I'm still looking for the app responsible for these 2 bugs, definetly not the "cached apps" setting, i just tried it in another samsung device without uninstalling apps, it works fine. As i said, i'm gonna reenable some packages trying to find the one that fixes that problem and report back. Feel free to contribute if any issue appears or problem solved.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Already on it. I never needed those two features you're talking about, i always uninstall apps i don't need and let the system decide for the remaining, that's why i never noticed that problem. Thanks anyway for reporting, i'll do my best to figure it out
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
SOLVED: com.android.bips

Feel free to restore the package and let it on, or disable it. Both ways, you'll get "sleeping apps" setting back.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
UPDATE:

Uninstalled that package again and "sleeping apps" setting is still working, i'll update the whole list now, can't explain why and how that settingwas gone, and got back. com.android.bips is uninstalled for me.
[General Topics] Ardysan:
Really strange. - com.android.bips is default printing service. I've enabled that, but still can't add deep sleeping apps
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I'll see what i can do
[General Topics] absinth4:
Thanks for this post! I was looking through the threads for s21 and i saw a similar one about debloating the device, but using an app i think it was called adb appControl. Are you aware of that and have an opinion over it? I mean is it doing the same thing with what you suggest ? Although from what I see your list with apps to uninstall/deactivate is way bigger.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
OP actually suggest ADB AppControl
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
App list has been updated, improved overall loading speed