yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] @amit_kumarr:
Great analysis 👍

Now I m going to do factory reset

Then I will disable all apps [ your uninstall.txt from last previous post ]
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Preset Update​

After the latest update from you guys, like @Tree5627 , preset has been updated to be the best equilibrium for debloat/stability.

Apps are to be UNINSTALLED, not disabled. And Adaptive battery is to remain DISABLED.
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
I still uninstall, i avoid disabling anything
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
Like always, check OP
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How many days did you use it for? They say it takes approx. 5 days before battery drain turns into battery gain. It's trash for the first week for sure. I'll keep testing in case.

Nvm this is dog****.
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Give it another go when you have time for a reset. My phone feels like it's zoomin for whatever reason. Really happy with performance with disabled packages so far.

At the very least I suggest disabling:

scloud

scpm

rubin.app

sbrowser

securefolder

There are many One UI screens that spam tons of system errors for these packages just by entering the menu. It's not bound to be good for the battery if it's throwing multiple errors per settings menu access.

edit: I can PM you analysis if you need any, but I feel like obsessing over this. A lot of the information on Universal Android Debloater is wrong and I'm going to figure out the OS for myself.

e: Nvm this is also dog****.
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I don't bother with ADB settings anymore. It's really difficult to get settings to stick unless your device is rooted and you're changing the device.prop. Anything that will stick can be changed with SystemUI Tuner.
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
@Tree5627 currently using your preset. Whenever i use the "remaster" on gallery, it kept on crashing altho the photo will be "remastered" after the crash. "sume.nn" is installed on me tho
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cmh
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Trying this out for a bit. Previous preset was pulling 10-12 hours SOT + 10-12 hours idle, but I want to push it a bit more.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
what does "vendor.qti.data.txpwradmin" do? I see this app running and eating quite a bit of ram
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Another package UAD was wrong about. It isn't a data collector on your battery usage, it administrates TX Power.

Keep it installed.

If it is draining too much battery, consider a factory reset. Lots of Samsung threads about One UI Beta having an issue with txpwradmin service failing to start so it will spam fail and drain.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Alright thanks man.

I've asked as I've seen this app on your uninstalled list.
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Yeah I'm reinstalling it as well.

Everything I post is experimental and for fun, pushing the device a little bit.

Hamid's presets are always best.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Which apps are you reinstalling?

From your list I've uninstalled QCC, opportunistic something (the one ending in "ONS"), SLocation and test things
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Nah man even here☠️
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Testing a bit but those are staying uninstalled for me.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Copy that man. Thanks
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Got the May update tonight.

Final list for the S23, use at your own risk.

Tweaks.

e:

Reinstall:

com.samsung.android.intellivoiceservice # causes Phone>Settings crash

com.sec.unifiedwfc # oops
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
this is probably my final preset as i've uninstalled only the apps that i know what they're doing. (192 apps uninstalled)
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Uninstalling com.samsung.android.intellivoiceservice causes Phone>Settings crash.

Other packages that cause system breakage:

Spoiler content hidden.

List is bigger if you have a SPen.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
And all the ai's gone.
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https://radishzz.cc/posts/384776b2.html#%E5%A6%82%E4%BD%95%E7%A6%81%E7%94%A8%E7%BB%84%E4%BB%B6

Really solid resource if you can get it somewhat translated. I'll post the excerpt but y'all should give the blog some clicks, the person's done their work.

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[General Topics] simoyellow27:
That's one hell of a guide man
[General Topics] Arjunpvl:
Hey, I have the same phone S10+ Exynos. I'm currently using your preset and getting good results. Can u suggest me the apps I have to restrict permissions with appops.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Weird thing happened after uninstalling Dex's apps and Digital wellbeing: the popup notification wasn't working anymore with the screen turned off. I have obviously wiped cache and started galaxy app Booster.
[General Topics] AndroidWars:
Hi I uninstalled appops long time ago (not working properly). I'm using only Brevent force close apps background. Anroid settings all apps in sleeping (except notification apps), Deep sleep apps empty. Adaptive power off (when on phone stuttering when off like a butter same Screen on time on/off doesnt matter)

Still nice SOT for s10+ Exynos = 8 Hour 20 min
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
So you have all of these reinstalled, correct?

Do they cause battery drain if disabled?

I know by system breakage you mean like if I disable soundalive, I won't be able to use Dolby Atmost, and I am okay with that, unless it will ALSO cause battery drain.

Edit: if I have all SPen related apps disabled since I don't use SPen, will that cause battery drain as well? I will re-install them if so, but if it only causes system breakage like getting an error that the app can't open or something, I'm cool with that.
[General Topics] Lurien:
May I ask why exactly is it "garbage" from your experience? Thanks.
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
my thought also. waiting for answers before i do anything
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In Powershell:

Do {

cls

adb shell dumpsys cpuinfo | findstr "com."

sleep 10

}

while ($true)

Ctrl+C to exit.
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I reinstalled everything and started over.
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Probably stable but very slim. Will be testing for a week.
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Looks good so far, no battery drain.

Reinstall:

documentsui

overlay.modules.documentsui

Note/SPen users, also reinstall:

handwriting

ConnectivityOverlay

ConnectivityUxOverlay
[General Topics] RealSalva:
@Tree5627

Maybe better to reinstall com.google.mainline.telemetry again, for this reason:

Google's mainline provides security updates so that they don't have to wait for manufacturers to implement these. https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/1...-mainline-security-updates-play-store-io-2019
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Phone overheats with this preset on S22Ultra Snapdragon OneUI 6.1 doing basic things like YouTube, Reddit, and Instagram. Gonna revert back to mine (similar to Hamid). I even unchecked like 20 of the apps on your list before disabling. I also excluded that list of apps that you posted which caused system breakage. So far for me, more apps = better battery as @Hamid Chikh said. Might not be the case for everyone though, just my personal experience with my phone.

Good list though! I wish I could figure out what's causing the overheat instead of disabling every app one by one to find it.
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Were you able to take a look at battery usage to see where it was coming from? I'm at 7H on/4H off, 68%, but I would agree I was getting better numbers before.

Edit: Forgot to turn off verbose vendor and Samsung debugging... That would explain the higher usage on launcher.

Also, are you down throttling your CPU temperatures with Good Guardian?
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
App usage in the Battery setting was normal.

I've never had to use Thermal Guardian since disabling GOS a long time ago. My phone has never overheated unless I disable/uninstall something I'm not supposed to, then I just revert back to normal preset and I'm all good, no heat problem.

Does anyone know what the default for this command is?

adb shell settings put secure game_auto_temperature_control

0 or 1?

Edit: This is my new preset of disabled apps, excluding all of the apps that cause system breakage. Besides honeyboard(Samsung keyboard), I kept that **** disabled. Been using this preset for a hot minute and never overheated or caused issues. Only 16 more apps disabled compared to Hamid's preset. If you don't see an app on this list that means I have it enabled. Nothing uninstalled, only disabled.
[General Topics] :
Aight, well even I know when to admit defeat. Samsung is slowly phasing out debloating so I think I'm done.

Did a factory reset, only disabled apps that can be disabled through Settings > Apps.

No ADB, no forced uninstalls/disables, just a regular ass device.

Any system apps that can't be disabled, if they use battery or data, restrict its background usages instead through App Info.

The end.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Why?
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Too many packages seem to somewhat rely on other packages in One UI 6.1.

Too many errors being thrown, too much overheating, just seems like debloating is detrimental on the newest update.

One UI 6 had better debloating potential with less errors being thrown.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
When precisely do you experience overheating?

Anyway, I agree, because it makes no bloody difference debloating 50 apps, 100 apps or 200 apps. I've reinstalled 30 apps and it does make no difference at all.

I think with the next update I'm going to install the entire firmware through smart switch and reinstall all the apps, only uninstalling the ones I know are absolute garbage.
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When the errors start to be thrown. Most of them come simply from accessing the Settings menu while having settings packages uninstalled. It spams looking for the missing package on every access.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
oooh alright. I don't have those packages uninstalled.

I have these:
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Rebloating is meta now 🤣🤣😭
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I would honestly start over. All the package descriptions are available in the source project.

Example:

For "com.android.bookmarkprovider", you should Google search:

src/com/android/bookmarkstore/BookmarkProvider.java - platform/packages/providers/BookmarkProvider - Git at Google

Right at the top in the header comments.

Some packages even have READMEs with more information.

For real. 💀💀💀
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Thanks for the info man
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Tbh I've removed diagmonagent and the phone it's working just fine. It's a diagnostic apps essentially, so I believe it can be removed without particular worries. The thing is that also SoHService is uninstalled. That's causing heating issues, because it manages the battery and the power of the phone.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Maybe I can do better than what I'm doing by reinstalling diagmonagent?☠️

Anyway, SoHService must be enabled, so don't worry
[General Topics] Mort015:
Contact Storage is installed.. But dont work to save contacts to Samsung Acc.. Also Galaxy Ai not working...
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I have. I've given every single command so "you all" can test your devices. You're going to have to go through the thread yourself.

Uninstalling Diagmonagent causes significant overheating due to it trying to spin back up under certain scenarios. These same errors DO NOT occur when a package is disabled instead of uninstalled.

Anyways I don't think I'm starting with you, you're the type to ask a question but also answer yourself in the same post.

Not to mention fear mongering. Just use your brain when it comes to this stuff. Your OLED comment is absolutely wrong, how would your phone know to burn other pixels the same amount as the burned-in pixels? Blasting a flat white colour over a burned-in pattern is meant to smoothen it.

SoHService is safe to uninstall and has been on safe debloat lists as far back as 2019. Same with Diagmonagent. If you're experiencing battery drain on One UI 6.1 after uninstalling anything, just reinstall them.
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Post uninstalled/disabled list.
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Hamid mentioned earlier that he notices significant overheating and battery drain when apps are disabled rather than uninstalled. So it becomes a balancing act of figuring out which apps cause drain uninstalled rather than disabled, and which apps cause drain disabled rather than uninstalled.
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Diagmonagent uninstalled, spinning up approx 1 time per 30-60 seconds.

Spoiler content hidden.

Disabling DMA with May update results in even worse, this error every millisecond.

Spoiler content hidden.

Signin installed

SCloud, SCPM, SCS uninstalled

EVERY TIME you open the Samsung account settings

Entering the same settings screen with everything enabled results in zero errors.

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I haven't done too much testing, but there really doesn't seem to be that much of a difference between:

Uninstalling

vs.

Disable all permissions including notifications

Mobile data > Allow background data usage OFF

Battery > Restricted

Force Stop > Clear Cache > Disable through device settings if available

If anything, I might be getting better battery but the device feels slower for sure.
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I'd still be using Rethink today if it wasn't so counterintuitive for battery saving. At the end of the day, that's something else I gave up. Can't try to block Google out while using a phone powered by Google, that's ignorant.
[General Topics] Mort015:
I got it! For my Contatc problem i has to restore "Samsung Cloud" only. And for Galaxy Ai Features i had to restore "Samsung Text to Speech Engine" and "Intelligent Voice Access"
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Could you please share your disabled and uninstalled preset?
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What's the worst that could happen with trying one last time? A little something like this.
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This is the one.

Pass 1 - Battery usage (Screenshot)

Apps on this screen can't be optimized and are locked to Unrestricted battery usage.

Disable anything that can be disabled through the device.

If it can't be disabled, ask: Will this brick my device?

If no, uninstall through ADB.

Pass 2 - Permissions

Same thing but in Permissions Manager screen.

Ask: Will my device brick without this?

If no, do I need this?

If no, disable through the device. If you can't disable through the device, uninstall through ADB.

Pass 3 - Whatever remains

Disable unneeded notification categories

Disable unneeded permissions

Ask: Does it use push notification? If no:

Mobile data > Allow background data usage > OFF

Battery > Restricted

Not coming back here for a month.
[General Topics] Haruu1416:
Try dumpsys deviceidle sys-whitelist -"package name" And check if the apps still cannot be restricted. I did this and it worked, except for the messaging and phone apps.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Pretty similar to my preset. Should be fine
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Mmmh

Tbh, since 2021 I've got uninstalled the Samsung Cloud, Samsung Core services, Push Services and obviously all Knox and Bixby related. But never had issues.

As I've said yesterday, I've reinstalled Diagmonagent and the phone feels slightly cooler than before.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Alright it's time to switch to Apple☠️

Anyway, thanks for the info. It's very detailed and you know what you're saying.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Btw yes. It's 2 years old or more. It's the same list since OneUi 3 or 4.
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Breaking my word and coming back one time before dipping for a month, to say:

There is absolutely no reason for this to be what our default startup processes to look like on device boot.​

**** the debug errors. Just debloat like before.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
My man🤝
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Can be
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Ok fine, one last just so we don't end things reductively.

Important thing to note is that those debug errors are just failed calls if verbose errors are disabled and buffer log size is set to Off.

No log size to store = no storage processing = no battery usage.

Only battery usage is from a failed call which could be marginal or significant, though more likely marginal in the long run when we see the alternative, which is:

60+ startup processes every boot, background runs, privacy breach entries, etc.
[General Topics] serene_sky:
Wating for your preset.

Actually, since updated to 6.1, I feel my phone heats up very quickly though I'm not doing anything heavy, the battery life is noticeably worse.

Then I try to restore almost thing, just removed Netflix, AR, Bixby, Samsung Pass, ... I saw everything is back to normal, not hot anymore. And the battery life isn't much different.

So it feels like debloat is probably not really effective right now.
[General Topics] Arjunpvl:
Turning log buffer size off leads to bxactions or button mapper stop working. Any fix?
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No clue, if the app needs to read debug logcat you should replace it with something that doesn't.

@Hamid Chikh

You should reinstall:

com.google.android.as.oss

com.google.android.federatedcompute

com.samsung.android.wifi.ai
[General Topics] Simone365:
Reinstall but you can keep it disabled or totally enabled? Thx
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AKA isolated on-device learning.

GitHub - google/private-compute-services

Contribute to google/private-compute-services development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

AKA on-device learning.

GitHub - google-parfait/federated-compute: Libraries for executing federated programs and computations.

Libraries for executing federated programs and computations. - google-parfait/federated-compute

github.com

There's a chance WiFi AI optimizes itself by deciding between best channels, etc. If it works well then great, if your speeds/reliability drop then disable it.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
The first might be useful, the second utter garbage and the third one too. WifiAi makes no bloody difference. Man how much I hate AI. Useful like a fork in the broth.
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Got some hard realities to face if you're not willing to embrace AI after your preferred phone company just dropped an AI accompanied OS. I'm reenabling anything with privatized machine learning.

Protip: once you get those annoying notifications after the initial setup to install Samsung/Google pre-bloat, you can uninstall and reinstall Play Store to wave them off. Ok cya.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Good point.
[General Topics] jrdgdaa:
How to remove bloatwares from secure folder? Thanks.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
This might be my final preset. Feel free to share an opinion about this preset.

Today I've uninstalled SecVideoEngine, KmxService, QCC and WiFi Calling, but the phone was already cool and didn't drain battery uselessly.

EDIT: reinstalled QCC. Maybe causing overheating.
[General Topics] xxsen:
Maybe better adhell3 to block internet access and ads without drain battery. Adhell app not working in background.
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You switch to Work Profile instead and ADB uninstall from user 10.
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Adhell is a root debloater that disables package intent permissions rather than disabling the whole package.
[General Topics] xxsen:
The last version is still being developed a few months ago on GitLab, there is a special topic for it on XDA, I use it on S20+ and it works fine for blocking ads and internet access, and disabling works fine for apps that are not needed but you can easily enable them at any time without using ADB
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Realized a lot of efforts here are nothing more than counterproductive and pseudoknowledge.

Battery drain placebo aside, I'm at 28 disabled, 254 uninstalled, 3.5h SOT, 7h uptime, 28% used.

Pay, tethering, emergency services, WiFi calling, all intact.

Y'all have fun.
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I'm on my way out for sure.
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
according to your graph, it looks like you are not a heavy user, I can see you don't use media apps or heavy app
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Damn this thread got kinda wild. I wasn't getting notifications for some reason. (Might be a doze error 🤣🤣)

Bro really crashed out.

I will say this, debloating is not as fun as it used to be. It feels more like a headache and a nuisance now. I wanna be carefree like Apple people 😢
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Where's your preset though
[General Topics] RealSalva:
is it possible remove displaycode from phone with some method ?
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Woah I saw com.qualcomm.location uninstalled. Has it created some kind of issues when uninstalled or everything is okay?
[General Topics] caingatcarl:
@Hamid Chikh how did you uninstall "com.samsung.android.spayfw" ? UAD can't seem to uninstall it, even cmd
[General Topics] xxsen:
For years, I have noticed on three different Samsung phones that the smoothness of the phone's operation is affected by changing the "Screen zoom" and "font size" options, the default should be left as it is... I always had the need to reduce the font, but it cost me some drops in the animations, sometimes when the phone heats up, it heats up a little more for the shade if you zoom out or reduce the font to smallest size..

The default settings are to leave the 3 dot, font and screen zoom
[General Topics] Shirou26:
How can I bring it back to default/normal?
[General Topics] Arjunpvl:
I too experienced that but didn't give it a try (Coz i like small font size too).

Could you post a screenshot of the default?

I forgot the default settingz and it's a waste of time to reset all the settings for this only.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Is this an Exynos thing?
[General Topics] xxsen:
Put both options in position 3. Third point

yes
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Well I wanted to reinstall some apps, but I ended up uninstalling more than I've ever done.

I've first installed on my PC Universal Adb Debloater Next Generation that has updated bloatware list and, I wasn't expecting that, all these apps are weather Recommended or Advanced. I'm testing this preset for 3 days and no overheating, no strange background behaviour. Simply less apps that stress the phone.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
What device and OS are you on? OneUI 6.1?
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
S23, 6.1, May patch.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Right on brother. Imma try your preset and report back. Might get different results since I am on S22 Ultra OneUI 6.1 May patch. I know for certain battery is better on S23 than S22 out of the box. I noticed you have a bunch of apps uninstalled that were included in the list of apps Tree uploaded that caused system breakage. Good to know your device is running fine.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
As I said before, according to Universal Adb Debloater Next Generation, all the apps I've uninstalled are whether on the recommended tab or advanced, so they're pretty safe. Anyway, gimme a feedback.
[General Topics] Kris_b1104:
Yeah I downloaded it and saw the same. I think imma start out with the recommended first and give it a day or two. If no issues, I'll move on to the advanced tab.
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
Yeah I mean only in the recommended tab are something like 160/170 apps, so...☠️

Anyway, I agree. Go like that.
[General Topics] Minh Quan Nguyen:
hi @simoyellow27, where can I get "Universal Adb Debloater Next Generation"???
[General Topics] simoyellow27:
I know, but I've already uninstalled 190 apps before sending this preset. I've reached 210 thanks to UAD because I've found out apps that are essentially spyware.

I've been using this preset since 3/4 days. Everything is smooth and everything works well. Consider that I've been fine tuning this preset for years, so...

GitHub - Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-android-debloater-next-generation: Cross-platform GUI written in Rust using ADB to debloat non-rooted Android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device.

Cross-platform GUI written in Rust using ADB to debloat non-rooted Android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device. - Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-andr...

github.com
[General Topics] Hamid Chikh:
It's a hit/miss situation actually, sometimes it does go, sometimes it persists. Sometimes an update enables uninstalling it, sometimes you need to factory reset and retry