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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] herg62123:
hey mbarvarian i posted a link frm my thread to yours.

i am still trying to get a true landscape m2d but untill then i did post a link here.

great job i really like this alternative setup.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pharmako:
Dropped by developer?

Hi,

I've tried this on TyTN (Herm200) with Tai's WM 6.5 Build 23088_Mega_WWE_3G ROM and it didn't work (tried soft-reset, re-install).

I've read through the whole thread and nobody ever came with an answer whether there is a solution for this to work on the Hermes / TyTN or not.

So I just wonder whether this is a dead thread (as it seems) or there's light at the end of the tunnel? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Laurentius26:
Great work Mbarvian, congratiolation's.

You rock with these Opal packages man, Opal dialer and now landscape Manilla, awsom!

Thanks for sharing!

Grtz,

Leo :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nhatt:
Great work!!!Big discover!!!

Thanks for sharing.You bring about joy to millions,for everybody
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
I installed, soft reset, and got an error about "touchflo2d.exe does not exist", but regular touchflo loaded fine - went to landscape, and nothin'.

Soft reset, uninstalled, soft reset, reinstalled, and worked fine.

Thanks

Val
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ruebyi:
HI!

Looks great! i really like it!

I Only don't know how long I can use this, because it needs 10 seconds to start :( (XDA Terra not overclocked)

Thanks!

ruebyi

P.S.: I got just an idea: would it be faster, if I would install secondtoday and implent your rltoday skin, and now everytime screen is turning around mortscript would launch second today....

I will try this today and report!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] darkz:
I took the liberty of making a video displaying the Landscape for anyone that's on the fence about it.

I'd love for it to be a smooth transition, but at least this doesnt just look like a mess when you're in landscape mode.

I'm using your 1.5 rom, which has this included.

Hopefully if they figure out the whole manila 2d thing in landscape, that would be awesome.

Anyways, here's the video. If people like it, I'll do more once other things come out (if I use them, that is)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv-mN15o5VI
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
Will the second today work? Manilla does not share! Just wondering, you know more than I do! :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MFx:
installing as we speak...thanks a lot my tytnII will be a "happy camper" with this lol!!! Will report back on how it works!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ruebyi:
I just tried to use Second today for this! works brilliant!

Now I only have to change the *.mscr

It's done! works brilliant with Second today and is even faster! 2 Seconds to switch form Portrait to Landscape! backwards it lasts a little bit longer...

Found some bugs, but I'll will debug it today and then show you all
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinco:
Any chance of the app to be smaller size?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nhatt:
I tested with my Kaiser,i can realize it working slow,however that's what respectable for mbarvian.I believer it'll to perfect in future.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] montypablo:
Installed it on my TYTN II but it only draws the background with no icons
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] b16b:
Working very good HERE

thank you you are very good chef ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yardie.spike:
Good work bruv, i knew you'd get it workin.....bigups!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] encephalon9986:
what version of mortscript do you need to be running?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinco:
does it support for non htc device?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bartybet:
I have installed and reset a couple of times and still nothing. Is there a trick to this other then install?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
hey guys

thank you for al of your feedback, it is greatly appreciated.

you can be assured that a new version is coming that s much much speedier in both ways and fixes the 'not working issue' for some devices

thank you again :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ancola66:
Thanks, download and try it :)

PS : But not work on Asus P535:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pajousek:
hmmm, doesn't work for me

but I think it's because HTC_HERMES_S64_WM_6.1_TouchFlo2D_UC_ WWE v3 - when I flip to landspace, it automatically flips back to portrait
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dsixda:
But this is not really "Manila 2D" in landscape (as the title implies), right? Just a workaround. Let's try to get the real M2D in landscape. :) Good hack nonetheless!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xenn:
You gotta wait for Herg's version for the real landscape.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] henrynhl:
This program is good, but it is really slow when it comes to transitioning from protrait mode to landscape mode...can you tweak the program to reduce the time lag? thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mainsail:
Doesn´t work in Mio A701.. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ljinsane:
didnt work for me either..Kaiser Tilt running Garmin manilla 4.2 rom
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Bardia Garsha:
You're the man. Excellent work.

Of course, as you've mentioned yourself, it's still not as fast and smooth as its role model (i.e. Raphael) but you finally broke the manila2d_landscape taboo and this is a real breakthrough.

BTW, I use your app on my Kaiser and when compare it to my Raphael , I notice these differences:

On Raphael:

- Messages takes me to the SMS Inbox ; yours goes to a New SMS

- Calender (which you named it Appointment) takes me to Calender ; yours goes directly to New Appointment

- Contact takes me to Contacts list ; yours opens a New Contact

did you preferably want them to act like this?

Once again, THANKS A LOT:p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
thank you for this explanation:

actually, the images are taken from a screenshot of the Raphael itself in landscape, and I just resized it and broke it down. Oh, and yes, I set the paramters for them to act like this ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
sorry for the double post guys, but a new, MUCH MUCH faster, tweaked version is coming soon!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
Sorry to be(THAT GUY), but any eta? BTW, YOU ROCK! :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
lol, nope, no ETA as of right now, but definitely within the next few days (or hours :))
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Bardia Garsha:
Well as far as I know, Manila (aka TouchFlo3D) was originally designed and developed by HTC engineers and released for the first time with the Touch Diamond as their flaghship breaking_news product.

So far as Diamond didn't have sliding hard keyboard , HTC hand't worked out any Landscape TF3D - for there was no need to do that.

A few months later when they released Raphael , they packed it with an app which looks exactly the same as mbarvian's app. This was originally NOT intended to be a full bit_by_bit equivalent of manila in landscape - it was just a "workaround" developed by HTC so that when we slide Raphael's keyboard things do not get messed up.

mbarvian has brought us the same concept in Manila2D and I think this in itself is a great achievement.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Bardia Garsha:
Well done. then the tiny difference between the name of one of the icons must be because of my device having a Vodafone manila (and not the HTC one). Oh god, i simply love Vodafone manila; it's beautiful :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
can you set it to run all the time instead of reloading each program up change of screen position (i imagine ur program isn't to large)

this is a great start but startup time is kickin my a$$ on this one :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
I agree! Myself, I prefer this to "Full landscape" I have edited the XML for most of the tabs in 2d and although its somewhat cool, it is still the same thing just longer! this is variety and looks good too, besides being faster and more funtional, verry user friendly! Great work M! You've got my vote! God bless you! :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MRFERRARI23:
looking forward to the new one thats supposed to be fixed,better an faster... that he mentioned earlier!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] andrew-in-woking:
M2D Original Skin

Hi mbarvian,

Have you done or are you working on a landscape skin for those of us using the original blue M2D skin? If not, do you mind if I produce a set of replacement image files for the skin folder in rlToday that would suit the blue skin more?

Out of interest, are the .png files of standard encoding? There seems something slightly unusual about them.

Cheers,

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Bardia Garsha:
well my friend, I cannot deny that from a cosmetic & "fanciful" perspective, I too would want the so-called "Full Landscape".

But let's view the whole issue from a pragmatic viewpoint : When do we really (and honestly) slide the hard keyboard of our devices ? Asking this simple question takes us to a more basic question : What is the actual use of a KEYBOARD anyway?

As you can see, this is shockingly raw and basic : hard keyboards were invented to help us enter various keys with a level of precision higer than soft keyboards. Only this and nothing more:cool:

I don't know about you (though your usage of keyboard shouldn't logically be that much different from mine) but I personally use the hardkeyboard only for the following reasons:

- type sms messages or emails

- enter data in New Contacts or Appointments

- type in Word files or Notes

- sometimes (though very rarely) enter search strings in browsers or go up and down the web pages with the keyboard's arrow keys.

- and finally to show off (:D) and beat the Symbian users (or those whose devices lack a full qwerty hard keyboard) !

The original manila3D landscape app of Raphael (and now this 2D app mbarvian has brought us) does all I "practically" need.

Although I'm a passionate advocate of cosmetics and aesthetics in all software applications, but when I view the whole thing from a functional perspective, I just feel that it would be a waste of all those precious hours to work on a Full Landscape manila.

Perpahs it would be more appropriate that the precious hours of our talented developer/skinner/designer guys be spent on ways to make our devices faster and less program memory hungry (by messing with the XIPs and DLLs) or , in Kaiser case, to help us have a better 2D/3D video experience (by working on the video drivers ...etc.).

Sorry that it became too long but I just wanted to say how things could be viewed from a functional viewpoint:p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajie2310:
not work in hermes.......:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jlavoie:
landscape

could someone make a mort script that switched to second today when sliding out the keyboard when on the home screen. we could then use second today with the real today plugin enabled and would not have to turn on and off plugins resulting in an almost instant switch back and forth.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
thats exactly what im doing in the next version

it should also work on all devices
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ruizit0:
please work in some more usefull... like real manilla landscape :\
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] victorpak:
You're kidding right? I'd like to believe you are and I'm being too serious. If not... show some respect!

This app is fantastic! Even if you don't like it MBarvian came with all those Opal packages! How can you say something like that? It's not only rude but also lacks coherence...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bhloo:
Manila 2D Landscape

The Manila 2D landscape doesn't work on [UPDATED!][Manilla2d][20758/20755 10/17](AlmostNak3d)(V8)THANKS NCD_X,and ALL ROM. Please Check and kindly inform of compatibility of this program with this ROM.TQ.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yi3o8:
hmmmmmmmm, let me think...............

no

but on a serious note, I'm looking forward to the next update. We owe you one (on top of the other gifts)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] webPragmatist:
:rolleyes:

Instead of a today plugin can this just be an application? The reason I ask is I am just concerned about Manilla always returning to the "home screen" instead of the last tab.

Non-the-less great work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Claus72:
Next version

Mbarvian can you tell us when you are going to post the next version with the fix?

I can't wait anymore...

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
unfortunately I am having quite a few problems with the new version. I will be glad to post it, big I am going to need some help to get the bugs fixed
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ruebyi:
How can we help you?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] buggers999:
This doesn't seem to work on my Samsung Omnia. I installed to Device and did a soft reset but nothing happens when I rotate (and I waited for a minute to make sure)

Shame cos it looks great
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The_hesham:
Can some one upload link here or megaupload, please?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rraauusscchh:
This is the first home screen that works and I like on my sch-i760. I can't for the landscape update. Thanks Mbarvian!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Moe5508:
It shouldn't work on Samsung Omnia - isn't this exclusively for HTC Kaiser only?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anryl:
Keep Working

PERFECT its perfect working with M3D :D

THANX :cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Noonski:
Well thanks to your script i managed to make my own version of a Landscape Pop Up.

Not using RL Today, But A MortButtons Menu.

Added the Skin i'm using in case you want to consider a faster Loading Method (and for me being on a Wizard it adds Slide Out Sound ;))

The two Sleep("500") are to time the sound a bit with the Animation.

# This makes sure that manila2d.exe is running before continuing with the script
While(ProcExists("Device.exe")=0)
Sleep(1000)
EndWhile
Clear(portFlag)
Clear(landFlag)
# This loops until Manila process is terminated
while(ProcExists("Device.exe"))
Sleep(1000)
IsRotated=RegRead("HKLM","System\GDI\Rotation","SlideKey")
If((IsRotated=1) AND (landFlag=0))
RegWriteDword("HKLM","\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO","Enabled","0")
landFlag=1
portFlag=0
Sleep(500)
RunWait("\Extended_Rom\Mort\Submenus\New.mbi")
Sleep(500)
PlaySound("\Extended_Rom\Mort\out.wav")
RedrawToday
ElseIf((IsRotated=0) AND (portFlag=0))
RegWriteDword("HKLM","\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO","Enabled","1")
RedrawToday
portFlag=1
landFlag=0
EndIf
EndWhile

And the Registry kys for the Entry

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Mort\MortButtons\#Sub#New]
"Icon"="\\Extended_Rom\\Mort\\MM_PM_CL.png"
"WinTitle"="Quick list"
"Skin"="WizardBrushed"
"ShowBack"=dword:00000004
"IconSize"=dword:00000001
"AsMainMenu"=dword:00000000
"TodayVisible"=dword:00000000
"StartTransition"=dword:00000003

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Mort\MortButtons\UserBackground]
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Mort\MortButtons\UserBackground]
"#Sub#NewImgP"="\\Extended_Rom\\Mort\\Skins\\WizardBrushed\\BackP.png"
"#Sub#NewImgL"="\\Extended_Rom\\Mort\\Skins\\WizardBrushed\\BackL.png"
"#Sub#NewColL"=dword:ff000000
"#Sub#NewColP"=dword:ff000000
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ruebyi:
GREAT! I will try this!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Aaron McCarthy:
Potentially very stupid question here... but we have to have RL today installed for this to work correct?

I installed it on its own and nothing happens.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pazookie:
mbavarian..any hopes to get a script working with BOTH tf3D and tf2D installed? i installed your file plus anryls scripts and when i slide the keyboard on my kaiser i see the landscape screen but its in portrait mode even though i can see the screen rotating (the start menu icon switches positions)..im looking for it to swtich to the rltoday landscape page FROM tf3D and then BACK to tf3D when sliding the keyboard back in and so on with tf3d (i guess having it recognize which plugin is used..tf3d or tf2d)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Aaron McCarthy:
AH... this only works if you have a slide out keyboard? Wont work if you just put your PDA in landscape mode? And yeah.. do I need to have RL Today or something else installed as well..

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ranj9119:
hey man! great job about this... but can u figure out for VGA devices?! i used it with Athena's keyboard connected and disconneted and it didnt work... it didnt work either by using Gsensor

Tnx in advance for great job

Cheers, Hirad
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] flaxjef:
It is not working om my polaris.

Is it only for the Kiaser? Was waiting for something like this.

Tried it but didn't had any affect, I am doing something wrong?

I installed the cab on my polaris with shipped rom + manila.

When I set my screen to landscape mode in settings and I go back to my homescreen, manila is still there in portrait mode?

Can anyone help me???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinco:
is there any release for non htc?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dsixda:
Noonski (and mbarvian),

Since it's constantly polling in a "while" loop, does the script add any noticeable overhead to the CPU and/or memory usage of the device? I have not tried it yet but am considering using it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
Any news?

Just wondering if there was any news on the new version! :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
No more hair!

I have been working on this for the past two days! I cant get it to work with mortbuttons at all! I have no more hair left to pull out! LOL! Anyone had any luck or any updates?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vysus:
myunspace not working

Could somebody provide an alternative link? Thnx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Beat!:
it doesn't work with my hermes,any fix?thx all
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yi3o8:
Would it be possible to simply bring an application to the front to hide Manilla instead of switching it back and forth? I wonder if herg will finish his true landscape version soon?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
it is completely possible, but I don't want a new window to appear every single time you open the keyboard up ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
Hey M! :-) I tried the code with the mortbuttons but my knowlage is sooo limited that after two days at my computer all I had to show for it was a hard start and a headache, LOL! I am sure you know what I mean! I am going to continue to learn what I cam about mort and If I come up with anything you will be the first to know! Thanks for being the trailblazer on this project!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vysus:
Alternative link

OK, provided by myself: here an alternative link for the cab, mBarvian if you please add it to first post :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yi3o8:
True, and I know my suggestion isn't the end all solution, but couldn't a script close the window with the keyboard?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinco:
Hi mbarvian, wonder when the release for non-htc? :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vysus:
Aehm, maybe I've been losing something: installed on my Polaris and nothing happens, is it for the Kaiser only?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Noonski:
Yes the Mortscript does take up around 19kb of memory.

I can explain why the Disabling the M2D screen is important.

Even in my Mortbuttons version I need to disable M2D from Homescreen first other wise you push a Button and it then starts in portrait again with let's say an SMS . (which off course need MortButtons installed and the path edited to where you have it installed)(just posted it to give MBarvian a sounding board)

Switching to Second Today i haven't tried that yet, so i don't know if second today would keep the device in Landscape, but it would help load M2D faster.

All that is needed when closing the Keyboard is

Run("\Windows\Manilla2D.exe")

I don't know how much Memory RLToday uses but if already set up in Second Today it would be almost instant.

When i had Second Today starting up (removed from start up after some good requests)

(i used a mortscript in my start up folder to to handle this) It would run SecondToday then Wifinit.exe, PlaySound Sleep then run Manilla2Day again so M2D would be on screen after boot and Pin enter instead of Second Today, But Second Today already open in the background running BTStatus and it's taskmanager.

MBarvian My Mort is at the level that i understand it but not fully. but do you think it would be a possibility to have the script only react when Its on the actual Homescreen?

It already is, or should be RLtoday and Mort run on all devices

Dos Polaris have a Keyboard to Pop Open? (checked the Wiki it doesn't)

So no this script won't do anything, but it might pick up when you use a screen rotate command (quickly reboots his Wizard)..

Nope used the Batterystatus Rotate screen commend and that did not trigger it. So it's pretty useless on Polaris.

Tried this, I ran Folderview when it detected the Keyboard slide out but it still reverted back to Portrait :( (not always)