[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
A Defenition before i Start:

Iphone: built by the man for the children.

"The fruit company who shall not be named" has had success because of its control, but that is also its downfall (i won't get into that to much though as we all mostly agree or understand where this is coming from)

Here enlies my commentary--->

Consumers:

Developers

Testers

'average joes'

Everyone has probably heard the slogan "touching is good" before; and that is commonly misunderstood. Touching isn't the whole pie, touching is a slice.

"The fruit company who shall not be named" has built its products around the average joe, while the average windows mobile user doesn't even know how to use a cab file. I'll bet not even every windows mobile developer knows what exactly a cab file is, a cab file is not just "an installer package" for windows mobile and was around long before windows mobile (remeber windows 95 install sheild? -install sheild was basically a cabinet decompressor)

Most People want more; they want to be inside that *****: they want to be hot sweaty and naked.

Products for windows mobile, are not products for "The fruit company who shall not be named." Windows mobile classically was built BY engineers and was made to be cheap enough that every house hold in america could afford one. "The fruit company who shall not be named" on the other hand seems like it was built by idiots for idiots. The sand box may be a great development philosophy, but it is not a great marketing strategy.

"hey look at this cool app and how nice it looks"

When a user tap the program icon, they should be wowed.

There was a little saying i love that came from google chrome's development team:

"Content, not Chrome"

When you get on the web you get on for the web page, not for the browser itself.

WHen i click the icon to start the "program" up thats what the user is going for. they want -a- program not necessarilly yours. They should appreciate your program, but they are after the content of the program itself not the program.Googles chrome ui is biutiful by being almost no existant. ITS SIMPLE. ITS FLUID. ITS DYNAMIC.

Round up for so far: Things have to be simple without restricting things to simplicity.

Looks aren't everything, do you think you would make the switch and stay with chrome and all of its plugin problems if it loaded with the same speeds as Internet explorer or Firefox? Hell no. Chrome isn't doing well just because of its UI. Chrome was ---engineered--- beautifully. Sure t still has some kinks, but not many people are complaining about its speed. Chrome was originally put together with the hopes it would render java 10 times faster. At its original release, its benchmark was 26 times faster than Internet explorer.

Round up: People want to see results. You can do all the homework but you have to make Grade. The horse power in the farrarri is just as important as it looks.

"Well geeze that looks brilliant!"

Yes it does :D But thats not all. We need developer support. We need content for our chrome. this should be the easiest, FREE PUBLICITY! Instead we end up trying to chase down developers who have 50 reasons for why their nuts are stuck up their asses. We can build a rainbow, but we have to have something at the end. Don't get me wrong, there have been some great developers out there offering lots of support. But there have also been some real morons.

Let me elaborate a little bit:

Donations are fine and dandy, i have a link attached to my name, but there is a point at which it no longer is just a freindly donation link. Some developers force traffic through there site Hoping that we are all complete morons. I guess they really think we beleive we are the 1 millionth visitor to every site, who knows. I havent figure out if it is the Pay Per Click or if they think there is a magic number of times you have to see a "donation" link before you donate (i imagine they must think it is around 83 or so :D) If you want money for your application,GO COMMERCIAL and quit harrasing us please.

I understand the encourgement of making money, but don't make us think you relly on it for a living.

Round up: COntent, we need a database to work with.

This is just my rant, To tie it all up this is in short what we really need:

We need support. We need universality. We Need Union.