yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sadoway:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6087/gecohicon2vy7.png
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
It will start with essentials for the "noobs" then I'll move on to about anything.

I really like the Gecoh icon and it's something I might work on. Inkscape on linux makes beautiful icons (it's vector based) so I'll try making a gecko with that tonight or tomorrow morning.

I started over with the application to clean up old code from the previous changes. I'm still trying to figure out a way to get the application to be faster because it HAS to load all the files.

I also have trouble downloading text files. Pictures and Cabs work fine but line breaks in text and CSV files are replaced with unknown character (squares).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kmax12:
realease?

i am sure everyone is wondering... when is any form of this app going to be released for testing on our phones???

i cannot wait :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I might be able to show you people an alpha version this weekend.

I didn't do any work on it tonight.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mpenguin14:
I just tried to add the info for M2DC over on your site

PM me if it didn't take

Sounds like a great idea, this is definitely a tool I would use
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Gecko U_Ideas

Like this, another design I like ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wyzepro:
some name ideas

Cab Grabber

Log Cab In

Cab-n It

Cab-Boost

Mobile Taxi

Cab Garage

Parking Lot

Free Parking

Cab Cache
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Unbelievable. Just. Wow.

Excellent design, I'll try my best to have something like this working (it should be feasible). I will make something skinnable and use registry instead of text files to save data (unlike with Tippy).

I got your application and I forgot a little detail: Screenshots should be in 240x320 (or VGA) and in gif format. It takes less size this way. I'll reupload it on my Photobucket account, no worries!

Also, I managed to fix the problem with downloading text files. I'm working tonight but I'll have plenty of time this weekend to work on it.

Thanks everyone for the help and feedback.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scilor:
A nice option would be to desable all sjhareware
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] slovoflud:
way too many gradients...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Ya why don't we get a beta of this out with a basic interface and then just make it skinnable. although most people are interested in the operation of the program there is no way everyone is gonna agree on a look.....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] astrocrep:
Nice idea... was going to do something like this a while ago... but then I got to thinking it was going to be alot of work to do it right...

You need a centralized app store where users can create accounts and create application entries. They can fill out the details etc etc...

User can also connect to the web app store and write reviews rate (and flag) cabs as well as download them.

The mobile app store will be similar to the web portal... you can download cabs and auto install them... The mobile store would also be able to remove an apps it installed.

Furthermore the mobile app store should be able to detect system information and alert the user if the app they are trying to install fails to meet acceptable system requirements.

Depending on what you coding skills are .NET would be the best bet with WCF for communication support. XML would be best for xfering data across the wire and everything should be stored in a db...

Good Luck!

-Rich

(Thats like what .08 cents, lol)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] acidd:
@slovoflud ....very nice design.

@all ...i hope the project will become real. it is a very good idea.

the only thing is, i need more datatransfer per month. i have only 100mb now,but i become 3GB :-)

many thx to all developers here.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pajousek:
Mhm ... i would like to introduce the very very incomplete suggestion on layout of the app. I know, graphics are not so god [I haven't done anything in inkspace for looooong], and it could had a edges + gradients.

if you like the idea and colours etc., i'll finish it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I like it but there won't be any screenshot in the list view to avoid high data charges and long loading times.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pajousek:
Oppps, sorry. I didn't notice this. I'll do the version without screens in the morning.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mr_Gee:
As so many I've also thought of this, I actually build something for the PC as a concept...

As a developer I can understand why you picked csv, I would too,

But looking at similar applications I do think you will need to "open up" the application.

As a developer I would want to keep control of my cabs, therefore I would host them myself, also most of the information you are requesting is already in my ApptoDate.xml file....

Being as lazy as I am, I wouldn't want to maintain 2 sets of basically the same data

apptodate code

<application>
<name>CamerAware</name>
<version>3.08.03.29</version>
<description>CamerAware Safety Camera Alerting from MoDaCo</description>
<versionurl>http://www.cameraware.net/apptodate/cameraware.xml</versionurl>
<caburl>http://www.cameraware.net/apptodate/cameraware.cab</caburl>
</application>

Sooo.... my suggestion is to leverage from that information :-)

for instance

Application name
Screen Size (VGA/QVGA/Square/All/PixelDoubling)
AppToDate? <A2D XML> or blank for no support
Version <fromA2D>
Blank line
Blank line
Blank line
Cab URL <fromA2D>
Second cab URL (optional)
Title for second URL (i.e. "Mirror 2", "Previous version","TyTN version"...)
Screenshot 1 url, could be picked from a2d.xml location
Screenshot 2
Screenshot 3
Description (as many lines as you want, no formatting supported) <fromA2D> which is/can be html formated, but this can be parsed through .NET
Cost (leave blank if freeware)

This way your DB is a lot smaller since you are getting the data elsewhere

While i'm writing this i just thought of something else,

you could also use a sqlite DB which the user would download...

The application would go to a website, and request the data,

this would compile an SQLite file which will be downloaded by the user

once completed the appliction loads up the file and the user can search

since the data is structured already the search time would be next to 0 (zero)

And I think there wouldn't be any load time either

(but don't pin me down on that one :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Thanks. I'll be back with another improved design. N1c0_ds, why don't you use a default design, I mean remove the skinning feature as you would have less bugs to deal with Gecoh.

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Gecoh Project Badge v2 is still under construction ...

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Note:

I'll be busy for the next 2 weeks or so ... :-(

Don't worry, I will keep myself updated. You can PM me though.

Keep on the GREAT job !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
A couple of things:

-I'm moving in 2 weeks, I'll be busier for some time.

-I like what you are talking about (SQlite and stuff) and I'll investigate this. I'm a noob when it comes to seevers tho and I don't have any way to make a server without financial involvement. Canadian business internet isn't cheap!

-Keep sending feedback, it really helps! This is a great and ambitious project and we'll get things done!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I made a new signature banner and an improved background. The search bar will be bigger and there is a row for soft buttons at the bottom.

Pocket Artist is a really great app!

UPDATE: I'm working on the navigation and it's really promising. There will be both finger navigation and 5-way navigation.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BlackBull:
nice idea!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ronschaefer:
Here is my Gecko again. Click on the link if you don't see the image - not sure I know how to get the image to show up.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shadowline:
Why not use a manilla-ish style to it for the tabs on the bottom? Would make it flow with a lot of the newer devices as it seems to be the new in thing, and almost every newer htc device has it preinstalled, or thanks to this forum can install a version of it (2D or 3D.)

Just my thoughts on it. :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Maybe. I see this as something I could do. I managed to make touchFlo gestures once but it wasn't exactly awesome. It just checked if you slid your finger down more than 150 pixels and did something.

Right now the main form is almost completely functional and it's quite cool. When I click buttons I use DrawImage to draw a "clicked" image over a button until the user releases it. 5-way navigation works too. When you use the 5-way, a rectangle appears around the control and you can use up and down to focus on another one. This includes the search bar.

There is only 2 controls and the title labels! The rest are just forms and magic.

Oh and I started looking for the registry. It's actually pretty easy to figure out but I see a crapload of settings to be stored here:

-Search history

-Last apps checked

-Main server URL

-Backup server URL?

-Favorites

-Installed applications (those that were installed at some point)

-Skin info (won't be checked at every launch, I'll add a "skinchanged" value)

-General settings

I had a lot of time on my hands, not knowing anything about SQL. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Do you have the picture of the gecko alone?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ronschaefer:
Only the Gecko for Gecoh

Sure here it is. If it is not what you need you can PM me to get it in another format. Included is a green and black and white version
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Thanks!

Oh and I'm almost done with the UI. I'm still nowhere close to figuring out SQL though. What does it do and how does it work? Is it THE database or does it work WITH the database?

I'm not experimented with servers and communications so I can hardly understand what it is.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
I've been thinking about something similar to this, leveraging AppToDate (by being fully compatable with AppToDate, but with a central repository).

Using XMLs would be better in my opinion. You could have multiple XMLs, with each being far smaller than a full listing, and having things like Types, Authors etc stored as XML tags.

I have started working on (before I saw this) a very basic implementation of this idea, with an iContact like UI.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Well it's good to see I'm not alone seeing a need for this. I checked out AppToDate and it's an excellent idea. I'll try to incorporate an update system to Gecoh as well, but later.

AppToDate requires support from the developers, something that dramatically limited its power. I don't want to have developers change anything for Gecoh.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Badge ...

Ok. I have time creating this for now.

How to use

Download the attachment/badge below.

Go to User CP

Select Edit Signature

Edit it

Upload the attachment/badge

Select Insert Signature Picture

Highlight the code [SIGNPIC][SIGNPIC] and Insert URL http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=436127

Save Signature and you are done.

Enjoy your badge.

I will create more badges later on ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Sweet badge, congrats!

By the way it's [ SIGPIC] and [/SIGPIC ] without the spaces ;)

I finally figured out how to work with SQL databases. Since it requires some server side changes, I will have the application download the SQL database file on the device so it doesn't retrieve data everytime it checks for an application. I have homeworks tonight and Xbox Live tomorrow but I should start working on my project again this week.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
lol. looks nice
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bedaweed:
N1co i dont know if this is possible but why dont you just use touch innovation (http://www.touch-innovation.com) list of programs seeing as its already done there just ask the guy that made it...by the way i dont know if it would even be possible just thinking about it:P lol
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I'm aiming to get as many apps as possible and not limit myself to a few dozen favorites.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Alright, here are a few updates.

Database:

I started coding the first lines to support the SQL database. There is a bug I cannot solve so I'm waiting for the B4PPC staff to provide help to continue.

UI:

I don't have much left to do for the UI. Everything is ready except the graphics on the bottom bar buttons.

Preferences:

It's a boring job but registry is easy to play with.

Other:

Send me your apps please. I left info in the first post for this so please support me!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
about how many apps do you have right now? if we have an idea of what you have we can contact developers to get the word out
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
2 apps. Tippy and Manilla2D Customizer (which I am eager to try out).

I FINALLY MADE THE SQL DATABASE WORK!!!

Let's begin developping for real! I got everything figured out now so there's nothing to delay development. I'll fix a few mistakes and I'll provide a few early screenshots (I didn't link all the forms to the menu yet so there's no text on the buttons).

I made the UI while waiting for answers and it's now part of the application. There's no buttons, only clickable images and drawn images.

It's such a great project :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
There is a new program in the development called GECKO, this a new oppotunity for you to get publicity to your programs. The application will act almost like an "app store" allowing people to scoll through apps and select them to download. Registration is free for freeware and one dollar for shareware. I would love to see your programs on the list! For more information here is the original thread with all the information

this is a simple text you can copy and paste to get the word out by private messaging or emailing developers :) HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
are you working alone or posting the source code for this somewhere?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Here you go

How to use

1. Download the attachment/badge below.

2. Go to User CP

3. Select Edit Signature

4. Edit it

5. Upload the attachment/badge

6. Select Insert Signature Picture

7. Highlight the code [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] and Insert URL http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=436127

8. Save Signature and you are done.

9. Enjoy your badge.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Letter to the developers

I retyped it, and it will be 3$. Otherwise it won't be worth it for me with PayPal fees and the fact it's just one freakin' dollar! If it was a work-and-release application I wouldn't mind, but this one needs constant efforts to keep the database up to date :).

Oh and I'm rebooting on Linux in a few minutes. There's nothing I can't do with InkScape! As for the gecko, I'll work on an original one as soon as I have time. Since I work with vector graphics, we will be able to rescale it and use it elsewhere.

"Take something awesome and wrap it in bacon. That's how Gecko will feel."
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Girvo:
For what it's worth:

You're probably better off keeping the repositories closed sourced. Take a leaf out of Apple's book: the less choice, the easier the experience.

Sounds harsh, and as a fellow Linux user it sounds weird, but if you want this to take off you need that to do it. One simple base repository, otherwise things get hard very quickly for the end-user.

This app has the potential to not only beat Skymarket to the punch, but also be a must-have application on all PocketPC's, not just for tech users.

:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I was thinking about one main repository for all applications and the option to change the default repository. This would be simple for end-users but would allow tech users their fair bit of customization. It would have the simplicity of the iPhone and the versatility of Windows Mobile. That's why I will rely on registry for many hidden settings. This will allow for more advanced users to tweak things (such as skins) and leave end-users a simple interface.

It's an "almost open" source project. Some parts will be shared with developers (how the system works, tips to make their own client) while some others will only be worked on by me (the main repository, the original client, (the website?)...).

I will need to make a website or something at some point. I just have a wordpress blog, which is alright for small projects but not for huge apps like this one :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Girvo:
Sounds like a good compromise.

If you need any help with the website, give me a shout: I run a web design company in Australia, and I'd be glad to help :)

http://flowcreativedevelopment.com/
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] supbro:
Great idea! This is a major lacking feature of Windows Mobile compared to the competitors. I'm in with iContact and iDialer! I kept waiting for AppToDate to do soemthing like this but it just hasn't... so I say go for it!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pazookie:
i created the signature for the click the gecko and when i hover over it i can see it showing the url in the status window of my browser but clicking it doesnt work..any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
It's the image URL that shows when I hover over mine. Check your links ;)

it's URL-SIGPIC-/SIGPIC-/URL
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
select "[sigpic][\sigpic]" and then click on insert link :) had the same problem
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
The SIGPIC tag works like the IMG tag, you gotta put the picture URL between sigpic tags
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pazookie:
well i endede up getting my wife to figure it out...but just for reference..where is [sigpic][/sigpic] selectable..? only thing i saw on the sig change page was upload image or use the url of an img from like photobucket or something and no other options..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
You have to type it yourself.

Anyway the project is going really well! It can and sort records horribly quickly, takes only 3-4 seconds to launch (instead of 15) thanks to SQL and allows to search by AppID, DevID and developer name.

Once I get the finger scrollbar working (I told you, almost no basic controls!), I'll rewrite the code again to improve speed, reduce errors and simplify it. Since I change a lot of things and learn along the way, I erase and overwrite many things and forget to remove old procedures or repeat the same code in many events instead of calling a sub to do it. It takes some time but makes a huge difference.

I still need developers to submit their applications. It makes testing easier and will provide the first users a few applications to play with.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Making the Gecoh Icon Glow

I modified the icon to glow like those in my banners. I like it better.

>> CHANGE TO >> ​

It looks better and shiny. What do you guys think ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
SQL seems like a good idea!

Are the apps going to be categorised at all?

And, will there be an update mechanism that can check whether what you have installed is old, and flag it?

Can't wait for a release, and if you need it, I'll happily beta test for you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Girvo:
Your best bet is to chuck in another Table with a Catagory list, just ID, Name, Description: then link it to your main table by assigning each row a CatID.

SQL is easy and powerful :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ramontrotman:
Can we stretch this idea a little further? What about ROMs? It would be nice to include a list of available roms for your perspective device.

Also, maybe I’m reaching on this one, but flashing over the air. Meaning…the app provides a link to the rom and can be downloaded directly to the storage card. This might need some effort from the cooks as far as instructions…but it’s a great idea. And with the current 3g speeds…it may take a little bit…but nothing like flashing without touching the computer.

What are the processes needed for one to develop and have his\her app pushed to this app? Who will police or keep track of it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Freakin' awesome!

I saw it before but didn't bother asking if you did it. I really like it!

1-Woops! Forgot about this! I'll add a lil' something.

2-Yes, there will.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pixelwix:
its possibile i know no2chem from ppcgeeks... had that in some of his rom for the titian where it would check and download his new roms to your sd and flash from there.. maybe the 2 can get together on this one...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Girvo:
It'd depend on the phone. A lot of them won't be able to: I know my KS20 won't be able to at all.

In my opinion: stick to one thing, and do it well ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Balrog82:
the idea to the app looks cool. hopefully this project is going to go live :D sounds really promising.

I'm gonna stay tuned for this to come.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Thanks!

No doubt I will pursue it. It's great idea (that many had too), a great project and possibly what will determine my admission to college next year. I don't have the advanced maths so I might use it to have them let me in.

PROGRESS:

-Fixed the code a bit, removed useless lines, joined duplicates...

-Made the buttons for the bottom bar.

-Worked on the touch scrollbar a bit. It works as it should but it's too slow to look neat. I'll work on this.

Also (why I wasn't there):

-Got an old computer (128mb RAM, 300mhz P3)

-Removed BIOS password

-Cracked admin password

-Partitioned to linux

-Installed DSL

-Didn't like it

-Installing Ubuntu

-Then Fluxbuntu if the CPU catches fire
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Any preview yet ??? Teaser... I can't wait ...

And N1c0_ds, the first thread showed this picture

This is my impression ...

I was wandering if its going to be blue and white, why is the gecoh icon red and yellow???

GECOH