yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Mad Bob Thank you for reply soon.

Here is the error screenshot; NikGApps can install, but BitGapps still crashes. tried one time again. also i removed NikGapps with "NikGapps Remover.zip" via twrp then tried to flash the Bitgapps. No luck for me 😢

Bitgapps:

NikGapps:

Edit; i mount "system" manually in twrp, but error is the same.

Edit-2: in this website, https://www.androidsage.com/2022/05/01/download-gapps-for-android-12l-or-android-12-1/ it says, Mind the gapps 12 should work in 12L sdk32. but it gives similar error. here is the screenshot:

i think; install script still has some compatibility issues.

thx.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ex novo:
Try Format instead of Wipe data and try do a clean flash again. Also use the latest TWRP from the official website. Before that make an EFS backup (IMEI backup) with TWRP and store it on an external media just in case things go wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] mechul-1:
Hello Ivan...everything Super...only wifi turns off...wifi works after reboot...Thanks for this great jop...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Mad Bob Also Pin + Fingerprint not worked. still same error.

Error comes just after accepting fingerprint terms page. wont let to scan any finger.

Here is the Screen Recording:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
Already tried one time. but i will give it a try. thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
I have no wifi issue but fingerprint not working for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Mad Bob @Ex novo @Ivan_Meler Here is an update:

1 - Backed Up Internal Storage to my PC.

2 - "Format Data" in twrp, confirmed "type yes" then enter.

3 - Rebooted to Recovery.

4 - It shows a message "allow modification" swiped right and allowed modification.

5 - Wiped in twrp.

6 - Advanced Wipe > System

7 - Nothing left in my interna storage, data, system, cache, dalvik.

8 - Flashed the ROM, (without error)

9 - Flashed Magisk 25.2 (without error)

10 - Flashed "BiTGApps-arm64-12.1.0-v1.1_signed.zip" (error: "cannot mount system")

11 - Tried "BiTGApps-arm64-12.0.0-v1.1_signed.zip" (error: "cannot mount system")

i am so sad now. 150 apps should be installed from the scratch.

omg. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😢😢

Any suggestions?

Thanks a lot.

Have a nice day. Sincerely.

Edit: and after clean install, (ofcorse booted after NikGapps only possible) fingerprint issue persist. even i did not change the language to my native language not touched anything on first setup. 🤦‍♀️
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] florin_stann:
Maybe too late to share my excitement, but i will:

1. EVERYTHING works, from fingerprint sensor, keys backlight, sensors, to banking apps, all without errors of any kind;

2. Battery, my battery life is insane! I have all accounts that any user nowadays has - from 3 emails to eBay and whatsapp, Google and all - but i get at least 30h with 5h SOT with every charge!

No battery saver on, all radios always on, from wifi to nfc, everything on auto sync, push;

3. Speed is crazy, i expected this anyway, but to see a phone that's been in my drawer for 3 years now coming back to such life, is incredible!

4. All goodies available work as they should, from nearby share, to the way my Samsung buds or my car connect to the bluetooth automatically.

Now, all of these things represent my experience, which i am thankful to the developer for.

I have been using my S7 edge as a daily driver for the past 2 months, since i bought a new screen for it (accidentally i bought an Olympian edition screen, which now makes my phone stand out aesthetically as well, not only softwarewise).

I don't take professional pictures, therefore my experience with HedgeCam 2 is absolutely fantastic, considering how old this phone is.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ex novo:
Flash the Gapps along with the ROM. DO NOT flash the ROM, reboot and flash the Gapps. Flash Magisk AFTER installing the ROM and gapps, boot and configuring the system. You can also try using the Gapps recommended by the official LineageOS: https://wiki.lineageos.org/gapps
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
This Package is recommended on LineageOS url that you have published. but see the ss it returns error.

Thank you for your reply. best regards.

Update: I wiped system, data, and tried again.

Mind the Gapps: "Could not mount /mnt/system! Aborting" error.

BitGApps: "Cannot mount /system" error.

Not working at all except NikGapps.

waiting for any fix.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ex novo:
Reflash the original Samsung ROM with Odin and try to setup fingerprint. If it doesn't work it must be a hardware problem. If it works, try installing LineageOS again.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
Thats not easy way, just noob suggestion. sorry.

my fingerprint sensor was perfectly fine and working just before the flash 19.1 rom. (previous 17.1 by Ivan_Meler) so, its so far possibility that fingerprint sensor should be defected just in time when i flash the 19.1. N/A

i dont think so. i think, @Ivan_Meler friend, will fix these possible issues in future builds.

waiting impatiently.!! 😯😯😯
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
am i blind or not. i looking for "busybox for android ndk - magisk module" but cant see it!!!!!!!

GitHub - osm0sis/android-busybox-ndk: Keeping track of instructions and patches for building busybox with the Android NDK

Keeping track of instructions and patches for building busybox with the Android NDK - osm0sis/android-busybox-ndk

github.com

GitHub - Magisk-Modules-Repo/busybox-ndk: busybox-ndk

busybox-ndk. Contribute to Magisk-Modules-Repo/busybox-ndk development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

this pages why not has flashable zip by magisk?

😮😮😮😮😮😓😓😓😓

edit: finally found that: https://xdaforums.com/attachments/update-busybox-installer-v1-34-1-all-signed-zip.5564955/
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
Use 12.1.0 version 1.0, 1.1 seems to be buggy for some users

It would be great to have logcat in addition for video.

9. Wipe data and reboot to recovery

10. Flash magisk and reboot to the system

11. Properly setup the magisk and reboot

12. make config file for the bitgapps to install it systemless

13. install bitgapps in the magisk

14. reboot and grant network access for Play Store and Google Play Services in app settings

Well, it worked for me just last week with the latest LineageOS 19.1, bitgapps, magisk and twrp.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
Thank you for advice, but i not understand well;

1) @Ivan_Meler said in the article (not try to boot before flashing the gapps) but you say flash rom, flash magisk, then boot.

2) also how to make a config file for BitGApps ?

3) Can bitgapps flashable in Magisk Manager ?

Have a nice day.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Mad Bob i tried to flash the bitgapps from magisk. without wipping data. (over the nikgapps)

nothing changed for me. and @Ivan_Meler should reply about this error, is there any command to fix this or can it bee fixed in the future releases.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] steve8x8:
Indeed, on their channel on Telegram (BiTGApps Downloads) they (TheHitMan) wrote yesterday,
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
1) Flash ROM, !!!FORMAT DATA!!!!, reboot TWRP, flash magisk) The same is said in first post: to format data if you wish to flash gapps afterwards)

2) Using their app, for example, and putting it to the "root" (basically where Downloads and other folders resides) of the internal storage.

3) Yes, they made that way =)

You too)))

No, you need only a clean flash. Otherwise it won`t work.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Ivan_Meler Here is a Bug Report Log, and screenshot for fingerprint issue.

Hope should be fixed soon.

Thank you all of hard work.

King Regards.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
😢😢😢😭😭😭😭

I wipped and format data,

rebooted to recovery.

booom. stucks at twrp logo. restart not works.

reflashed twrp tar file with odin. nothing changed.

god damn me.! 😡😡😡😡😡
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] zzz2002:
The order of flashing is I believe

Flash the ROM do NOT allow the system to restart, flash the gapps.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
Already applied like that.

See 8- 9- 10- 11-
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
Welcome to flashing:

1) stock image via odin

2) twrp

3) repeating all over again...

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Seems you did something wrong or in a wrong order... That's the only case.

p.s.: was there a few times...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
No, the first time of soft brick. i flashed lots of smartphones.

But, i did not understand, if it will not boot to recovery without installed rom, why the twrp lets me to reboot to recovery? why is not it grayed out or else.

Actually i not forced the device with power botton to reset just used the twrp menu option.

This means, phones are smart but the developers not smart enough.

Sorry.

I am so sad now. maybe return to stock oreo rom again. and i am done with aosp roms. forever.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] zzz2002:
Why are you flashing Magisk.

AFTER installing the ROM, and without rebooting flash your gapps.

Setup the phone.

Download and intall the magisk app.

Then open the ROM zip and extract the boot.img file and put it somewhere accessible (download/is usually good).

Run through the Magisk install, the module install will ask for the boot image you saved.

The result should the boot image, plus a modified and renamed image.

Reboot into TWRP and flash the modified boot image.

Restart system

You will need to install Foxes Mmm app in order access third party Magisk modules.

Note: I do not recommend using some add-ons/modules as they are closed source.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Ivan_Meler says flash gapps after rom then reboot.

you say flash rom > boot device > setup phone > install magisk manager app > etc.

i will try untill my device go bad like unrecoverable.

and will reply here for everyone.

no one explained officially. but everyone gives different suggestion. different way.

now my device bricked.

very interesting.

Note: waiting to download finnish stock firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
@Ivan_Meler @zzz2002 @Mad Bob @Ex novo @mechul-1 Sorry guys. I flashed the stock (oreo) firmware.

error is the same:

so i open *#0*# test menu.

bad news; my fingerprint biometric sensor gone bad.! No luck for me. it has to replaced with new one.

Thank you a lot for your time and try to help me.

Sincerely, best regards.

Sorry again. Have a nice day.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
how to use face unlock in this rom?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] madkentar:
I really enjoy the actual version of this Rom beside one thing: after a while (for about 15 minutes) wifi loses its connection. In that state no essid can be found until its switched off and on again.

Does anybody encounter similar problems?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] zzz2002:
Don't use, it is considered to be insecure and should be avoided.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] zzz2002:
I use NikGApps which seem to work well for me.

However I was looking through the install configuration file and noticed a couple of entries, digitalwellbeing & devicehealthservices.

Are these worth having on my device or can/should I

A) NOT install them

B) If installed are they worth removing.

TIA
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
Hi everyone, i have a new issue about google assistant. works well but, voice match not working. i say "ok google" or "hey google" also activated this feature from the settings but no work.

Tried:

- changed system language to english us,

- assistant language to english us,

- set my native (turkish) language as secondery,

not working at all. but i long press to home button, it works perfectly.

aby suggestions?

thank you all.

best regards.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
Only this one. "RETRAIN YOUR VOICE MODEL" and check again. Don`t know if providing all permissions and excepting from battery optimization would help.

That Dropbox is unrelated to a file hosting service operated by the American company Dropbox, Inc.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] biso46:
The only gapps that were able to mount /system was Nikgapps and since then I have been having the heating and charging problem mentioned by other people here.

Can someone recommend gapps that can mount /system and don't have that issue?

Bitgapps failed to mount, both v1.1 and v1.0
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ivan_Meler:
Ill just leave this here, Yep its already happening

Most of stuff is working but ill need to do some cleanup before posting this

Some lineageos featues are missing but most have already been merged

Once again huge thanks to everyone who supported this project and helped cover build server cost with donations and also got me coffee this project wouldnt be possible without them

see you soon with latest android version on 6 and a half old phone
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] zzz2002:
Been doing a bit of digging before the latest 12.1 and/or 13.

There were a couple of comments about the "latest" bootloader being a problem.

Is this something that needs addressing or not.

Anything else that might be a nuisance.

TIA
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Nosepull:
Has anybody found a fix for the connectivity problems with this ROM? Right now I experience almost daily losses of wifi connectivity which can only be solved by toggling airplane mode (toggling wifi alone does not work).

I have issues like that in varying frequency with this (otherwise great) ROM for literally years, and also with another S7edge, so I would say it's not a specific failure of a piece of hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] cantalat05:
Yes in twrp only nikgapps flashable well. But on the other hand, if you flash the rom and magisk 25.2, reboot without flashing gapps from twrp.

after boot, you can install bitgapps from magisk manager (as a module) without problem.

I didnt try but possible to flash other gapps (like mindthegapps etc.) from magisk manager. As a module.

In my experiences, it looks me like a little bit buggy (lags etc) when i flash bitgapps from magisk manager. So i returned the nikgapps. I think it works more efficiently.

Have a nice day.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
No problems detected. Used the latest august 2022 Samsung official ROM (with GPS fix), latest TWRP and this LineageOS 19.1 + MicroG (from BitGapps, systemless). Zero issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
running the latest update aug22, still have wifi drop out and wont connect unless reboot phone.

and sometimes get stuck on lock \ screensaver . and random reboots.

otherwise runs ok
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Shiningb:
You think Lineage 20 won't have these WiFi drops?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
The latest update for LineageOS 19.1 is 2022.08.06

Initial build of LineageOS 20 is 2022.08.25

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If you are referring to the latter - use the corresponding thread.

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LineageOS on Android 13 itself is still too lacking so there are no point to upgrade to LOS 20 yet.

Stick with 19.1 for at least a few months more.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
The latest update for LineageOS 19.1 is 2022.08.06
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Nosepull:
For me, the lockscreen problems were seemingly related to Signal notifications with embedded pictures. So upon receiving such a message the resulting notification could hang the lockscreen. I worked around by disabling Signal message preview while the device is locked - maybe it's something similar in your case?

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/issues/11828
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Galaxy86:
+1
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
it seem to be like the touch is blocked, i can swipe to unlock or the unlock pad wont appear. i can get it to work by tapping the notification dropdown. seems like some overlay problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
does anyone know the cause for the random resets and wifi connect but "cant provide internet" ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Samsara69:
Hello.

I installed this ROM to my Sm-G935FD ,it seems work wells.

But there's problem with Drivedroid app https://www.drivedroid.io/#images

It works well with internal memory.

But when i try to use external microSD as image directory (ISO folder) it seems Android refuse access.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
probably an issue with the app and the tighter security in this android version.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Samsara69:
Not the app, it works on others ROM , it seems Android security ,maybe need modded kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ivan_Meler:
Builds with September security update are out, here is a brief changelog

- Merged September 2022. Security update

- Updated chromium webview to 105.0.5195.79

- Synced with LineageOS source

Not too many changes as you can see as most of work went towards 20.0 builds which are quite stable already.

18.1, 17.1 and 20.0 builds will be updated with september security update once security patches have been merged to those branches

Huge thanks to everyone who supported this project with donations that help cover the build server cost and get me coffee.

Enjoy new builds and stay safe
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
And won`t work, until they update the app to support Android 11+ security storage policy \ storage framework access \ etc...

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Kind of workaround is to put your files to /storage/SD_CARD_ID/Android/data/com.XXX.YYY/files

In my case it works only after moving files to:

"/mnt/media_rw/82F3-1D20/Android/media/com.softwarebakery.drivedroid.paid"
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
i have noticed usually before the wifi starts paying up "connected - no internet" it will do a boot screen lineage logo thing for a few sec. but there was no reboot?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Samsara69:
Thanks Mad Bob, i revert to another ROM but i will check your solution (y)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
lost all my phone contacts, this has happen a dew times now.

with to constant wifi connection issues

and random freakouts

whats going on?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
Latest update seems to be buggy. Revert to the previous build for now.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
its happened on the last 2 builds,

the phone has mini freakouts, responce goes all wierd. needs a restart
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Mad Bob:
Clean flash worked fine. But strange lags for a few days after OTA... Seems time to check LOS 20 =)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] shack1069:
Hi,

I am currently using LineageOS 18.1 (Ivan Meler) and thinking of upgrading to this 19.1 version. What would be the recommended upgrade path? What gapps to use?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ivan_Meler:
October security update is out, here is a brief changelog

- Merged october 2022. Security update

- Fixed samsungs bug with gps where it would start acting up over time due to time rollover bug

- Synced with LineageOS source

Big thanks to everyone who supported this project and helped cover the build server cost which kept the project running throughout the years
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
thanks for the update, any chance you know the cause of the wifi drop out issue or why sometimes the OS will crash to the boot screen but not reboot and be back in the os with no wifi?

i feel it happens when the phone is in my pocket more?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ahmad-issa1999:
The fake reboot problem previously happened to me too , once every few days , then it suddenly disappeared by itself idk how or why

But still have the same wifi disconnecting problem which happens daily
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
the "fakereboot" could be OS crashing or some base system

have you noticed any patterns that could cause it?

so far it could be putting phone in pocked (maybe screen touch )

lower battery seems to happen more

do you run any firewall or gps or vpn apps?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ahmad-issa1999:
nope , havent noticed any patterns , it happend purly randomly

sometimes i use vpn but it didnt happen during these specific times

now that its gone , i have a new problrm : sudden freezing , phone suddenly freezed out of nothog , for e.x surfing instagram or browsing net , and the only solution is to force reboot

many people are suffering from it too , no clear reason why its happening , i could say maybe ram is almost full but in my case its not , still theres a reason surely , a module or setting or sth

hope its fixed in los 2o

and oc big thanks to Ivan almighty 🔥
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] lhedb:
problem is oc20 will need a new install, and that means setting everything up again. i have too many apps to login and setup. but if it fixes the issue its better then now.

need to rule out if its the phone hardware or something else
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] sikampang:
this rom so good but navbar bug so annoying.. and hard navbar still working when phone turn off and on again..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ex novo:
As I'm having the echo problem in calls like many here I changed some mixer_paths settings and this one for me greatly reduced the echo in normal calls (on speakerphone the echo continues). Haven't tested it with headphones because don't use them. If anyone wants to try, I used X-plore file explorer with root access but any other file explorer should work. First go to Root/vendor/etc, copy mixer_paths_0 to clipboard and save in another place like downloads for example to serve as a backup and be able to revert the change. Then copy the modified file to the same location to replace the original. Restart the device and test.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] Ivan_Meler:
Here we go, November security update is out

- Merged November 2022. Security update

- Cleaned up patches list

- Synced with LineageOS source

Some of you might have noticed that there were not any updates after security update, I had a lot going on in personal life and havent had time for android unfortunately hopefully that changes soon so i can finish up few more things that need to be sorted on s7.

On another note updated 18.1 and 17.1 builds will likely be out in a few days

Huge thanks for everyone who supported this project so far as their donations help cover the build server cost.

Enjoy new builds and stay safe.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] sikampang:
please fix navbar bug if activate physical button still can touched after on off phone
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos) ROMs, Kernels, Rec] kiwidudeNZ:
Hi Can we use the same mixer file in other versions of lineage OS builds like 17.1 and 18.1 as examples?