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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] DuratecPaul:
coming from a realme x2 pro which is one hell of a phone to follow.

I have to say Pixel 6 has won me over. First off I dont notice any difference accuracy wise for the finger print sensor use. Performance is good not perfect.

Battery life was a shock for me. First time I plugged it in with 30% left in the battery it reported 1h50min to charge and it took that long to charge compaired to my x2 pro thats and 1hour 15mins longer to charge. Which made me really angry like back to the shop and refund disappointed.

Then I took it to work. X2pro 7hrs of screen on running google maps and podcasts through BT 12photos.

The X2pro is looking for a charge, battery normally 5%-15%. Same scenario for Pixel 6 and Im getting home with 25% - 35% dont have the battery anxiety to go find a charger. when I plug it in at night and it say 8hrs to full charge I just smile and go to bed.

Phone never gets hot to my knowledge other than the first day after that nothing.

I dont like the P6 oled screen at all compared to the x2 pro, google auto brightness adjustment anything below 50% just doesnt look good and its not useable to me.

I spend way more time using my P6 1- its a new phone and 2- Android 12 is actually useful to me in the way it delivers notifications news and messages.

The Phone app is somewhat anoying and a let-down in the way it responds to tapping the answer call both lockscreen and while on the home screen and the way it handles missed calls and doing return calls.

Call quality is really good and work really well in noisy environments at work I often turn off BT and use phone in noisy areas so I can be heard.

P6 vs P6pro only thing that I compaired on the P6P was bigger battery, adaptive screen refresh.

In the end P6pro was too big and not worth the extra money for an extra lens that I would barely use.

Instead P6 256gb was the better choice for me.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] fonix232:
I am too in a 5G area, and have absolutely no heating - maybe during charging, and the first 30-50 minutes after a fresh setup.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I have used three Pixels before my P6 (2, 3, 4) and none of them had any auto brightness issues.

My P6 Pro, as yours, has. I noticed myself having to adjust it several times throughout the day (3 or 4 times every day, especially at night/evening) since I don't like the auto brightness, most often or not it's too bright.

It's something they should be able to fix relatively easily. It's bothersome for sure.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Orangeblood77:
How did you get $420 for your P5? I was offered $250 for mine which I still have.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Trade in option asked if my device turns on, and if there are any cracks in the screen. I answered yes, and no.

They said it's worth $420 if traded in and received in condition stated.

Supposed to arrive at the trade in facility today, we'll see 👍👍👍

UPDATE: Just looked at my trade-in email, they only offered me $405, not $420. My bad for the mistake.

UPDATE 2: Just received my "we have your device at our warehouse, give us 1-5 days to finalize your trade in" email.

Let's see if they try to claim I turned in something other than my Pixel 5...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Orangeblood77:
Yeah I did the same process but was only offered $250. Strange. Good luck.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Did you order early? I ordered day one. Maybe they got a ton of Pixel 5 trade-ins by the time you ordered?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Orangeblood77:
Yeah I ordered day 1 also. I still have the 5 and am leaning toward keeping it and selling it elsewhere.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Swappa had mint Pixel 5's for $415 - 450. Even though I usually use Swappa, but that's why I went with Trade-in.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] bouchigo:
I ordered day one, and I was initially getting $380.00 for my OnePlus 8 Pro trade-in...the site kept crashing, and when I finally got through the offer changed to $240.00, only 2 1/2 hours from launch. I ended up just selling my OnePlus 8 Pro separately for $400.

I could have gotten between $500 and $550 on Swappa, but I knew the person and threw in the warp wireless charger since my Wife's S21 Ultra wouldn't charge correctly on it (that charger is very dependent on the case, doesn't like the tough armor case), and I didn't want to deal with the same thing with my P6P.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
I have to very strongly disagree with that!

Maybe it lacks 3rd party vendor and carrier bloat, spyware, and backdoors, but it still comes absolutely disgustingly loaded with gooble bloat, spyware, and backdoors. Fortunately, AOSP can be built and installed to save the day.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
For fairness’s sake, it's a Google device, and since Android is made by Google, the "standard" Google Apps can be expected to get shipped out on a Pixel. Anything else wouldn't make much sense otherwise. Noone would take Google seriously if they'd ship out their phones without Google Maps, Youtube or GMail. Reviewers would immediately strike Google as "insecure, don't trust their own apps, no strict line here, no direction, strange phone product, doesn't make much sense". So shipping those apps out is not "disgusting", it's just "to be expected".

If the "constantly calling home" practice is necessary can certainly be a question. There is a lot of background sh*t that gets send to Google that is not at all necessary for the devices' functionality. As you pointed out, AOSP can save the day there. Even though, people need to mind that (custom) AOSP can break some of the devices' functionality.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] lepusang:
Wow just be happy they included a fingerprint reader, iPhones don't have fingerprint readers & they cost 1200
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
That's not entirely fair, since the IPhone Faceunlock just works (with some limitation though, it's not as refined as the P4's that worked out of the box in any direction and unlocked without any sort of input because of Soli), whilst the P6 FP sometimes fails.

Of course then there is the problem of masks and stuff, which is why a modern Flagship in 2021 should have Faceunlock AND Fingerprint, but companies haven't figured that out yet.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] mysterioustko:
That's akin to complaining that a car came with seats, seatbelts, and a radio. Complaining that a Google phone has Google services on it makes absolutely no sense. If all you want is a shell, maybe you should build a car.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] lepusang:
First of all android face unlocks are cracked we just don't use them! Also apples unlock doesn't work in dark rooms. which is actually how I found out the latest iPhone still doesn't have a Fingerprint scanner. I'm sure Apple will be happy when they "invent" the technology in a couple of years. They just started using ARM processors labelled it as industry changing
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Apples Faceunlock AND Pixel 4 faceunlock both work in dark rooms. They have dedicated sensors that don't require light to shine on your face. Did you ever own any one of these devices?

Also there is only ONE Android phone with faceunlock, and that's the Pixel 4. All other phones use some fake 2D BS.

The only thing coming close to "real" faceunlock is Samsungs iris-scanning technology from a few generations ago, but that never worked.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Not at all. One does not need the gooble bloat to want an **ANDROID** phone. But no, they need to load it with spyware that reports all your activities to them. They need to add gimmicky crap throughout everywhere.

AOSP includes "seats, seatbelts, and a radio" -- firewall, dialer, messaging, camera, etc. Its all there. What it doesn't have is the gimmicky trash.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Fake 2D BS? Not at all. There is nothing wrong with using imaging as long as it is implemented intelligently and as long as you are aware of its limitations (doesn't work in the dark). And BTW, all technology has limitations, nothing is absolutely foolproof.

You can, in fact, create a 3d model of a face with nothing but a camera. Two cameras makes it easier, but one camera can do it if you move it around a little.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] prohibido_por_la_ley:
The Google apps aren't Google bloat and certainly not gimmicky especially if you actually use them. Magic eraser has been very helpful in fixing up pictures that my mom takes and sends me to clean up. The call screening feature helps 10 fold in getting rid of Spam calls unlike on my V60 where they would occasionally still break through. The voice dictation is extremely accurate, I'm using it right now to write this post.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Google seems to disagree with you here, since they removed the 2D faceunlock feature from Pixels past out of "security concerns".

Personally, I would love to see it's return, even though the "secure 3d model" via camera (your example) alone will result in a single, obvious problem - unlocking time. In order to "securely" use a 3d model via camera, you will have to move your face quite a bit in the unlocking process to make sure it adds up. No user will want to do that, since it will simply take too much time. People already complain if the unlocking process takes longer than a second, just imagine the bulk of hatred that would sweep over Google if they'd dare offer a feature that would require you to actually do something daring like smashing that face left and right, every time when unlocking.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Google doesn't disagree, they just wanted an angle to sell the pixel 4. Hard now to go back on that without making themselves look stupid.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] felipemendes:
So I bought the Pixel 6 and returned within the two weeks allowed. Absolutely hated the fingerprint sensor. One can only compare to previous experiences. I had (and have again) a Galaxy S10+ (decent reader) an before that, a OnePlus 6t (great reader). I think it is unforgivable to release a bad reader in 2021.

Then I had problems with whatsapp backup never completing backup, which led to battery problems. Firefox Lockwise didn't work that well. Even youtube picture in picture would come off the picture. All in all, I decided that it was not for me. Ended up buying a Galaxy S21 on BF sale.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] prohibido_por_la_ley:
If you had waited, you would've received the update that fixes the FPS even though I never had problems with it. Have fun with your gimped Samsung Android experience.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] galaxys:
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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] felipemendes:
I'm not gaining anything defending brand X over Y. I just want a phone that works, as my days of fine tuning my phones are long gone. Even if I have to choose between a half-baked Android 12 and a working Android 11, I prefer the later. So yes, I hope I'll have fun with my gimped Samsung Android experience. But just for information, I had several Nexuses and three Pixels. Some better, some worse. I always want to like them, but when I don't, I prefer not to spend a year in frustration until I buy another phone. I just return them while I can and move on.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] kevinireland11:
Oneui 3.1 onwards is soo good, I really miss all the features, this pixel is just ok, to many issues on going, selling the p6p for s22 when it comes out or the s21 Fe 5g, I just miss oneui and all it offers, I can't even screen cast on this phone without having to buy a chrome cast, oneui is just one click and it's done, no issues at all, and dex is just awesome! Pixels are too featureless for me, I don't no why people like stock so much I mean you get the same performance and battery life on Samsung phones now only Samsung have way better features
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Everybody has their own needs. I don't know why so many people like Samsung. For a year and a half after my Pixel 1 stopped being updated, my wife and I went back to Samsung with the Note 10+. I hated mine, and my wife had problems too. Unreliable syncing and notifications. So common an issue that my brother who's still on his first Android phone ever - the Galaxy S9+, has the same issue but thought that's just how Android is, but no, it's a Samsung thing. Save battery by not syncing often enough, even with all background optimizations of the affected Google apps disabled.

I've gone into all the details before. I use my personal phone for work too (the company I work at uses Google for everything except the phones they provide). I need to know right away if my boss sends me a chat or email. Not 45 minutes to 2 hours later like I got on the Samsung.

The only thing I miss from the Note 10+ is the built-in nice stylus, and Samsung has patents preventing other styluses from being quite as nice.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing with you. I just wanted to point out that it all depends on your needs. I doubt if I'll ever buy another Samsung - so glad I turned our Note 10+'s right around when we got our P6Ps and sold them.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] kevinireland11:
Yeah I get you, but from the S10 onwards Samsung really have stepped up the game, I had the Samsung S20 Fe 5g and I didn't have one issue, timely updates as well, this is my first pixel phone and it's been a hassle for me, I hear previous pixels are great though, I just think you get more for your money with Samsung, I mean they can do mostly everything the pixel does still has ok Google and all that functionality built in and you can use Google apps on Samsung to like the messages and dialer to, I just disable that Bixby crap, but I'm going to wait untill the January update to see if the issues are fixed before I jump ship
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Android-Desire:
Only real problem with Samsung is the Exynos, that is all i can get from Samsung where i live and that is so bad, the experience within the first week is really bad, yes it works great for about 2-3 days and then it is down hill, lag in settings menu lag on homescreen, they support is as bad as they chipset is.

Rebooting does nothing, factory reset works until you install the same apps again, like it cant handle a few ekstra apps, Snapdragon has no issues and same with Tensor.

Like the hardware degrade within days of normal usage.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Just yesterday, January 4th, I received the email that I will be refunded $439.

They received my Pixel 5 on Nov 22nd, and the assessment process is supposed to take 3-5 days.

Literally 43 days, and 16 emails later, each saying their "special team is looking into the issue", I received my refund.

Honestly, once you send in your device for trade-in, you are 100% at their mercy on whether you get a refund or not. One Xda member said they sent in a Pixel 5 and was told Google received a Pixel 2 XL and was refunded $40. I was skeptical of this claim until I ran into Google's terrible customer service.

At least with the trade-in process, Google's customer service is non-existent! After hours and hours of searching and trying to reach a human being, no go. Automated Q&A at best, if you make the "right" selections you end up with a chat (only happened once and it made ZERO difference).

Needless to say I will NEVER, EVER trade-in with Google again. My Pixel 5 in mint condition was only fetching $40 more on Swappa, so it made sense to go the Google trade-in route.

I. WILL. NOT. MAKE. THAT. MISTAKE. AGAIN. (y)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Makonator:
I've really don't know how you got all those bugs on notw 10+...I got exy version for 2 years now...no lag at all, ever, fully costumize with good lock feetures. Just the other day in 2 years had to factory reset it when I manualy flash new android and on ui 4.

Notification for me are instant, AOD, one UI is for me best on the market atm.

Things that anoys me on samsung part are indoor shots, locked RAW (can't use gcam on all lenses).

Last few days I'm activly on XDA reading about phones and thinking of selling note and get one of the P6P, Xiaomi mi 11 ultra or wait for S22U...Reason of change is only for better camera, note is doing everything else with ease (I'm not mobile gamer so that part not intrest me).

After reading tons of post on XDA, youtube etc...looks to me there is no ''super phone'' atm.

I just want camera with good cropping ability :)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
It wasn't just me. It's a Samsung thing. The sync issue was the only thing I would count as a "bug" on the Samsung. My brother with his S9+ and my co-worker with his previous Samsungs had the same problem.

My work uses Google for everything (besides now they use only iPhone - they only experimented with providing Android devices for a few years). They've used Google for nine years now.

I opt not to have a company phone but I do put my work credentials in as a secondary account on my Android phones. I did so starting with the Pixel 1 and HTC 10, which I had at the same time although I ended up exclusively using the Pixel 1 until almost two years ago which is when my wife and I got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ since the Pixel line didn't yet have a 512 GB model (which I have now with the Pixel 6 Pro).

I often rely on my phone notifications for work when I'm multi-tasking (I work in a technical field). Very often I would not get a notification for a new GMail until anywhere from 45 minutes to two hours after the email was actually received. Hangouts and Chat notifications were completely hit and miss - often miss, with no notification at all.

I tried everything I could to make sure nothing was shutting down the necessary background processes (I wasn't rooted). I tried factory resets, all with no luck to change the behavior. From what I've heard, Samsung does this to save on battery.

On my previous Pixel (and for that matter HTC 10) and on the Pixel 6 Pro, that doesn't ever happen. *Maybe* occasionally there's a minute or two delay for getting a GMail notification, but nothing serious, and I get my Hangouts/Chat notifications immediately as well.

There were plenty of other things my wife and I didn't like on the Note 10+. Not necessarily bugs, just different ways of doing things which I considered "gimping features" as compared to the Pixel, such as Do Not Disturb. DnD didn't have as many options on the Note 10+ as it does on the Pixel.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Guyinlaca:
So I've temporarily retired the Pixel 6 Pro and am using the Galaxy Note20 Ultra. My biggest problem with the phone is unreliable reception. Indoor 5G reception is vastly inferior to the Note20 Ultra and calls would randomly break up or drop during 5G/4G handoffs. It's also disappointing that a phone with "guaranteed" updates is getting them weeks or months late because engineers didn't do adequate testing before releasing this software.

While switching back and forth between the Note20 Ultra, I can say the camera is better on the P6P, as are the speakers, the battery life, and it is SLIGHTLY more fluid. That said, the P6P required regular reboots to fix random glitches. It's hard to say if Android 12 is buggy, the hardware is inferior, or a mix of both. Hopefully the 3rd time is a charm for fixing all of this.

While a controversial opinion, Android 10 was the most stable Android version across all OEMs in my experience. The customization options without root were pretty amazing too.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Interesting that you would need to "frequently reboot". Mine has an uptime of 22 days, which corresponds to the release date of grapheneOS stable. I did have to reboot daily when previously running self-built AOSP, which was due to a sound bug that resulted in no outgoing sound on a phone call -- this bug was corrected for december AOSP though.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TonikJDK:
I may be joining you and rolling my Note 20 back out for the same reason. Turning off 5G has helped but it is still flakey switching towers and switching from a wifi call to 4G. If I start a call at home and get in my car it drops as soon as I drive out of range of my home WiFi.

Without vast improvement with the next couple of updates I will sell it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Makonator:
Damn, I got note 10+, notifications are like almost instant. I see here lots of people complaining on p6p android 12. Im on it for last 4 days, no problems so far. Start to thinkning that samsung operates better with android than google it self 😄
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] exis_tenz:
Hi guys!

I somehow messed up my system with LSPosed in Gravitybox. A conflict made my phone unworkable (screen just kept flashing). No worries since I kept a Nandroid. After just putting this back (I ticked literally ALL the boxes) my phone goes trhough the OnePlus-loader (dot turning into square) and then says only "turning off" in the screen. Nothing else works. So I can only re-access the device via PC-Terminal in TWRP.

Fact is... Nandroid was taken BEFORE LSPosed was installed, Nandroid gave no errors when taking and gave no errors when "putting back". But device just kind of softbricks AFTER boot. Very strange. Any ideas?

Could it have to do with DM-Verity?
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] exis_tenz:
Just wondering: did anyone actually MAKE a NANDroid (ticket all the boxes) and tried to put it back? Questions:

- when putting it back: do I need all the boxes ticked, or just a few?

- when making a NANDroid - do I need to disable PIN, fingerprints etc.? Or can it stay active?

- did anyone succeed so far? - I am wondering why mine doesn't work?

Please share your experiences!
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] Raygen:
Can confirm neither my Nandroid backups are working.

Dunno if any security pin or measure needs to be disabled first, but it shouldn't.

So far, the most safe way I've found to make a full device backup, is through adb:

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While booted in TWRP use the adb commands:​

adb shell
ls -la $(find /dev/block/platform -type d -name by-name)

to list all partitions.​

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Then you can use​

mkdir /sdcard/PartitionsBackup
dd if=/dev/block/sdc"partition number" of=/sdcard/PartitionsBackup/"partition name".img

to backup every partition in your internal storage.​

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To flash them back you can use fastboot:​

fastboot flash "partition name" "partition name".img

# Example
fastboot flash boot boot.img

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[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] exis_tenz:
Wow, that's is almost out of league for me :-(

Anyone can help fix this? How is everyone doing?
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] darrenchris:
Can anyone help me in overcoming that kind of a problem .?
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] Eastw1ng:
I've tried recovering with TWRP, I suspect the problem there is encryption, because when I factory reset the data, I can start fresh.

If you just want to have a working phone, try doing a restore and factory reset (also try reformatting the data partition if a factory reset does not work).

Just let us know if this worked for you.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] Raygen:
I've created a Tool that could help, if you're still able to backup the original working firmware.

Anyway, I personally suggest to go with multiple type of backups (TitaniumBackup + Nandroid + PartitionsBackupper) first.

And when it's time to restore, wipe everything with the stock recovery and start fresh. Restoring the

userdata

partition for last, checking if everything works before flashing it.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] exis_tenz:
Awesome. After my 4th (!) factory flash comming Friday at a OnePlus service center I will try!

I am now rooted with TWRP, A12 Version (EU). Is there a simple way to return to stock recovery? Or can I do the entire wiping in TWRP? I was warned not to wipe partition / files with IMEI.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] Raygen:
If you backup everything before hand (IMEI partitions included), you can pretty much wipe anything without worries (by personal experience at least).

To revert back to stock you can easely flash the stock boot and stock recovery partitions via fastboot.

Or, in case you just want to backup them, just download them directly without need to touch the phone.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] HofaTheRipper:
As i always say: Dont flash around without backups 😅
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] HofaTheRipper:
4th factory flash???? I think u shouldnt flash somerhing anymore 🤣😅