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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] wekebu:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Keith W:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell

Not impressed so far if I am honest
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.

I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] danw_oz:
Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Keith W:
According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] gettinwicked:
What update? I got my phone yesterday and haven't gotten anything. I just ran check update and nothing. There are a few bugs that could be worked out. Hopefully I get whatever update soon to fix.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] wekebu:
Found it! Thank you.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
This one: Update your Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro to the latest software to get all the features (SD1A.210817.036, or SD1A.210817.036.A8 for Verizon). Try rebooting the phone and check manually for updates again. What version are you on right now?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Is it working without root and/or without his ElementalX custom kernel?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] droidguy22:
How do you compare Screen (brightness, richness, overall quality) between P6P and S21 Ultra?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] droidguy22:
When you get a chance, please provide how do you feel about going from Note 10 + to P6P?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] smallfish82:
I know what you mean but I think it's something people would get used to in time.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
I really hated Samsung's software, and I loved my Pixel 1's software, which is what I was using for 3 1/2 years until Google stopped updating it. Samsung's hardware is awesome, but I just didn't like how things worked. Do Not Disturb is gimped some compared to on the Pixel - other things are arranged in a way that makes them really inefficient on such a huge screen, including re-arranging and adding to your Quick Settings tiles.

So the software alone is worth it to me. The biggest thing I'll miss is the ability to use a MicroSD card.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ozzjim1:
Compared to the S21 ultra is an interesting one. I had the Mi 10 Pro for 16 months before moving to the S21, and within 2 weeks regretted the move. I had the Mi set up like an old glove, it just did everything so well. I wanted the extra refresh rate camera goodies with the S21 Ultra, but they didn't compensate for the loss of user experience.

The Pixel is interesting. It's more buggy so far than the S21, the camera though for every day pics is light years ahead, simply because you shoot what you see, the S21 always lags a split second and looses focus etc. I found the Ultra ok, but never once loved it. In time I think I could bond better with the pixel.

Twitter scrolling appears to be a little sticky in the pixel, but if I can get Nova stable then I'll be much happier than I was with the Samsung overall. I guess some updates and patches will iron out the kinks as we go.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Cris_1612:
How about the screen on pixel 6 pro comparing to s21 ultra? Thank u.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ds78:
how difference sound between s21 ultra and pixel 6 pro ( for example YouTube ) ? which better ?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Agree with that. The S21U had a big update in Sept which improved the performance quite a bit (scrolling etc) so I'm hoping the performance with the Pixel will improve with updates eg. scrolling on Twitter.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
To my eyes the screen is much better on the s21U.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ozzjim1:
I would say the screen is about an 8. The S21U a 9. I actually preferred the screen on the Mi 10 Pro to both, just a shame the refresh rate wasn't 120hz.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
First battery charge and left over night. 8 percent drop in 9 hours. Little bit more than I was expecting but nothing to worry about. Most of my other phones would drop about 3 or 4 percent in that time
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
At work and did a speed test. On my pixel 2xl and oppo Reno 2 I usually got around 50-60meg speed. I'm getting much faster speed on this....
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I'm pretty sure that without root, you can't manually toggle HBM with a simple app. At least that was the case with previous Pixel phones, they all required root to force HBM.

There are some phone manufacturers that allow you to toggle HBM without root, but - at least up until the Pixel 5, to my knowledge - Google is not one of them.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Half my family uses the S21 Ultra and what stands out to me the most about Pixel vs. Samsung in terms of photos aren't focus or lag, it's colors. As you said, the Pixel just shoots what you see, Samsungs want to replicate a dreamworld with nicer colors than reality can offer. It's just unrealistic, and I can't enjoy it.

I did a lot of side to side comparisons and even though some Samsung pictures have greater detail or other quality, it just looks off - it doesn't look exactly like what you can see with your own eyes, whilst the pixel replicates that in a much better way.

At least that was the case with a P2, P3 and P4 - I'm still not quite sure of the P6 Pro, yesterday some of my pics were kinda botched, the HDR seemed to differ (skycolor for example, 2 pics were mighty blue as if I'd have used photoshop on them, 1 was dull as heck as if HDR didn't work at all) even though I just pressed the shutter at the same motive for a couple shots in a row - and yes, I have the most up to date camera version.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I tried that out many times, didn't work. Got the EU Pixel 6 Pro version, running build number with 210817.015.

Anyone else here in Europe that tried to update? Did it work for you? Or is it US only for now?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] chistery:
Got the update yesterday in the UK.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] danw_oz:
You are correct. It works without root by switching between your preset brightness to 100% by turning it on. It was hardware dependant if the hardware supports it. Flar2's Kernel's had the mode to leverage the harwares max capable brightness I believe
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] tr0ubles0me:
Some people say it's not possible to turn off 5G on EE's Pixel 6 Pros. The toggle in settings they say was missing. What's your experience?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
I found the Pixel 6 wasn't always going into deep sleep mode, so was stuck on ticking the CPU over at 300Mhz. The recent update and a restart seems to have it behaving better and it is entering deep sleep mode when not in use.

Really though my thoughts are, given the large battery and newer chipset which are more power efficient doing maintenance tasks and modems being more power efficient, when a device isn't doing anything, it should be dropping less in percentage terms than previous devices did.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
I can confirm it is missing, no option to change the network type.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Haven't looked to be honest. I don't have a 5g plan and no 5g signal where I live so happy to stay on 4g
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zymphad:
Awesome. Your initial impression the phone is on par with your Pixel 2XL...

That is heartbreaking disappointing.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
That's not what I've said
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] m03sizlak:
Initial impressions:

* It's way too big

* The fingerprint reader SUCKS, hard. I liked the one on the pixel 5 SOOOOO much more

* The wifi reception is 5-15 dBm WORSE than the pixel 5

* There's a bug where the screen ALWAYS turns on when you lift the phone, even if you've disabled both options (lift to wake, tap to check)

* The USB connection to Android Auto is RIDICULOUSLY finnicky. If you so much as move the phone a tiny bit while driving it loses connection to android auto.

I will probably end up returning this phone and go back to my Pixel 5. I have 15 days to decide but it's not looking hopeful.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Had no issues with Android auto personally
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
I got the update yesterday in the UK, however it only gave me the update once I had inserted a SIM card, so not sure if that is connected or not to how quickly the update might be delivered.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xdaweaver:
Battery life is pretty poor I reckon. Also don't have the option to turn off 5g. On an ee contract...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
Its actually pretty tiny from my point of view. What it is, is TALL.

Biometrics are not protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, therefore you shouldn't use it anyway. If you don't have something to hide, you don't need it locked.

That number is subject to calibrations and therefore is not good for comparison device-to-device. If you want to know the wifi signal strength, take the two devices and simultaneously run a speed test, and see which one craps out sooner as you walk away from the AP.

Sometimes it can also be subject to inversion. When you are too close to the AP, the device with BETTER reception may be more overwhelmed and therefore lose signal. This means that the lower number may actually be indicating that the device is more sensitive and has a longer range.

I noticed that cellular reception was showing lower on P6P than Nexus 6, Pixel 2XL, or Pixel 3a. But the funny thing was that it held the signal better than the other phones when I went into my basement. The P6P and Nexus 6 both hold the signal in the basement, the P2XL and P3a both lost the signal.

Perhaps, but it doesn't seem to be hitting anyone besides you, so I think its probably something that is mucked up in your settings which could be corrected with a factory reset.

You might want to get a new wire. Try the one the phone came with.

And didn't they fix android auto to work wirelessly?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
I don't think you've had it long enough to make that determination, for a few reasons;

1) This type of battery doesn't reach full capacity until after several cycles.

2) You're probably using the new phone differently for now.

Both of those will result in seeming to have a low battery life, but both will rectify in time.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xdaweaver:
Fair shout. Also, the only thing tech companies are complaining about is battery life. Surely with tensor and Google's software updates this can be improved?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
That isn't as simple as that. If the phone is stolen or lost you wouldn't want it unlocked surely?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] m03sizlak:
It's hitting many people aside from just me:

https://xdaforums.com/t/turn-off-aod.4353059/

In all likelihood it's hitting every user, period.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
This appears to be a feature implemented in typical Google fashion where it isn't clear what is happening to the user. So you can always find the position to place your thumb the display turns on even when set not to. It has been confirmed that if you remove the finger print unlock option it stops turning on when picked up.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 96carboard:
That is definitely not the case. No issues with it here.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xdaweaver:
What are people's phone call quality like?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
Seems on par with most phones. Mine connected up to EE (in UK) with no issues, 4G calling works and Wi-Fi calling works. Sound quality seems good to me and to the person on the other end I asked said I sounded clear.

It's never going to be high fidelity through a tiny speaker, you'll want some headphones for that.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] znel52:
I had finnicky android auto connection on my Note 20 Ultra. Think it is more of a cable issue and not a Pixel issue. Anytime the cord shifted a little bit it would cause issues. Ended up buying an AAWireless unit to convert to wireless AA and its been pretty awesome.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Perfectly fine for me
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Highland3r:
Had the phone a few hours now and some initial thoughts... Come from a Pixel 3 ( so missed a couple of the generations...)

It's big - lots bigger than the 3, but it's what I wanted. Seems quite tall, but not overly massive.

It feels quick and really responsive

Fingerprint scanner is ok, haven't used under the screen ones before but it seems fast and reliable enough.

Curved screen looks great

Wifi/4G speed better than the Pixel 3, haven't found 5G signal yet to test that.

Optical zoom seems to work pretty well and camera is much better than the 3. Colour rendition wise it's pretty natural.

Magic eraser is pretty cool and seems to work alright - just need to be careful not to over use it.

Overall design is nice - gets a bit covered in fingerprints though - but hopefully cloth case will sort that out.

Overall, a big step up from the 3. Much much smoother throughout. Happy so far - lets see how it is to live with!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
I don't believe you. Apparently everybody is having issues and the phone is rubbish lol
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Highland3r:
I've double checked and it's 100% a 6 pro - they didn't send me a re-badged <insert name of more 1337 phone here>

Even tried turning it off and back on again and it's not made it rubbish. Seems to be struggling to install the latest OTA - does that warrant and RMA and compensation???!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xdaweaver:
That update takes a while - seems to be the latter half / encrypting the apps etc as it is a security update.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stuff:
Everybody in a thread that is catered to people complaining? Noooo, you don't say lol.

People that have issues look to post them. People that don't have issues just enjoy the phone and stay silent. Keep that in mind.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] mang0:
I must say... I do enjoy reading people's impressions of the device, but I will never understand why someone would cancel their order based on someone else's use case. 😳 Feel like I've seen that more than I should!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Don't forget that people that are active in XDA are 95% tech enthusiasts that have very specific needs. It's easy to point out very small nuisances if you know your ****, most people on this planet will be happy with any high end phone - whether it be Samsung, Google, Apple or Oppo. The average joe just want's Youtube, Spotify, Google Maps, Netflix and Whatsapp to function. Display color? Muhahaha, I have friends that don't even know what calibration means, they don't know what nits means, or HDR, or refresh rate; there are people that watch on 50 Euro televisions that have a picture quality where I get optical aids. If I'd tell one of those friends "your colors are over saturated, all the edges are bleeding in, plus your black is grey" they would react like: "What? What does that mean? This looks nice."

You can only be critical and know your ****, if you have a point of reference. If someone spends his life using one phone, let's take the Google Pixel 1 for example, and never experiences another - he will tell you it's the perfect phone. Because it is the perfect phone for him.

That's especially true for people that never spent big money on tech.

You see where I'm going with this?

People like us don't represent the majority of users, trust me on that.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
I think that's a fair point. I usually get about 3 phones a year and look for minor flaws because I think I'm an enthusiast about phones. I can see flaws with the P6P but I could see flaws with my S21U and each has its own positives and negatives. I think 99% of the phone buying public wouldn't see anything wrong with either and indeed,my wife thinks I'm mad when I point out issues I have.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skymera:
I sold my 16/512GB S21 Ultra for the Pixel 6 Pro and I'm so underwhelmed, considering returning it.

My 0.02:

- Optical FP. This is very slow compared to the S21 Ultra. Did I mention it's optical?

- Limited customisations. I can't find a way to change the ugly ass lockscreen clock???

- No light up notification options at all besides third party apps

- No Dolby Atmos or even any audio EQ for that matter

- Some apps don't run at 120Hz like Telegram which is locked to 60Hz. No issue on my Samsung.

- No option for fullscreen apps / games so you get an ugly black bar at the top. Pokemon Go for example.

- Mobile data seems unreliable. I have to quit and reopen apps for them to work.

- No WiFi QS toggle

- Device can get uncomfortably warm

- No ambient display options

- No AoD options

This phone's offering is average at best and is riding on sheer hype peddled by reviewers.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
There is EQ settings on the phone, I managed to get it through Spotify in the settings, not sure how to get it otherwise but it's the standard Android EQ. Also, Telegram runs at 120 on mine.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] droidguy22:
Copied from another website posted by a user:

"I got my Pixel 6 Pro (Sorta Sunny) two days ago and I love it. Battery life took a couple days to settle in but has been phenomenal today, and the under-screen fingerprint sensor has been as fast and more reliable than the one on my Samsung S21 Ultra was (I've seen variation reported by reviewers too, so I don't know if the sensors themselves vary, or set up does, or just some fingers work better than others?). I'm generally kind of jaded by smartphones now, but Material Me is the most fun I've had in a while - I think this is the most I've loved a phone since the Nexus 5, and with fewer compromises."
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] digthemlows:
Love, Love this phone. Pixel 6 pro 256g white. Coming from Note 20 Ultra which I bought because I hated the pixel 5 size and cheap feel. My pixel 3xl was a favorite. Have had Nexus and Pixel phones for years. The Samsung phone experience was just garbage compared to Pixel. I'm quite happy. Waiting for a case kinda sucks, this damn thing is really slippery in the hand.

Took me a few to figure out there's no "back button' when in apps, you swipe.... I was commenting on a facebook post and couldn't get back, lol.... of course it's something that makes sense, just wasn't used to it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] combat goofwing:
Struggling to get apps to display full screen like on my one us 8 pro ,any help would be great
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] henihazbay:
Can you compare the battery life please?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] dj24:
I'm in the same boat and looking to upgrade from the N20 Ultra. Can you compare the two overall especially battery life?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TiltedAz:
My P6P was delivered today. It's been awhile since I had a new phone so setting it up was a bit tedious even with the phone to phone copy. Android 12 UI isn't much different versus 11 but the Settings menu is. At some point Google needs to rethink all these crazy Settings buttons and options. After all these years it still seems to be one step above a clunky long list of #defines.

First impression is good versus my old 3XL. I tested 5G (189Mbps) which of course is much faster than 4G. I've done the initial update and still need to redo fingerprints. The screen seems much more vivid and bright versus the 3XL.

I installed Brave browser but it's crashing. A quick online search shows it's a known problem for Android 12.

The P6/P6P seems to be a good value versus the competition but I can see things have reached a tech plateau. If my phone holds up as well as the 3XL, I shouldn't need a new phone for another 5 years.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ajsmsg78:
Like you I sold my 512gb S21U and in the same boat even though my phone hasn't arrived yet. I'm running Android 12 right now on my Poco F3 and my initial impressions of Material You aren't good for some of the same reasons you listed. The lockscreen clock is ugly and huge, the toggles are also huge. I wish they would have cut them in half so you could see more without having to scroll over. I like to decrease the size of the UI by changing the minimum width and now everything remains huge. It reminds me of EMUI which I hated.

I'm gonna give the 6 Pro the trial run and make a decision but at least from running Android 12 already I know what I'm getting into. The S21U was a good phone but definitely not my favorite. I actually like the Poco F3 more.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Highland3r:
No option to disable/force 4G is a little frustrating (looks like it's carrier enforced - EE UK). 5G around where I live is a little patchy - especially inside. Takes the phone a while to drop back to 4G when 5G service is poor -especially indoors.

Not a massive issue, but the option to force would be good - especially in cases where signal is present but poor.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hexxor93:
My first impressions are alright to be honest - Hopefully its useful for some.

I've come from a Oneplus 8 Pro, so far what I've noticed, which is worst but not a deal breaker are the following,

Under display fingerprint reader - slower but works fine

Speakers - Not as loud but don't distort (notable imbalance between top and bottom)

Screen - not as bright and feels like there is space behind the display (strange feeling - also holow :S) but its so smooooth! Also the 120hz with the new animations is so much smoother which is nice compared to the Oneplus.

Bluetooth - Had a bug the day after i took delivery flying to Prague, after playing one song, it would refuse to send audio (fixed this by turning on AOD - maybe a bug with the CPU and services managing the bluetooth?)

Android - some changes seem to require more steps to complete the same task compared to Android 11

Cannot change from 5G back to 4G, its missing and lack of EQ but my Pixel 3 years ago didn't have these nor did my Pixel 1 Xl.

Apps - some of my internet banking apps seem broken, however but this will likely be fixed with a update at some point.

Overall though, quite happy. Even my preorder (UK Google Store) was good, preordered on the day and got it on the 26th Oct first thing (Got it in the "Sorta Sunny" colour).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xdaweaver:
Agreed and same here (ee)!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Was_Croques:
I find the lock screen a great improvement. Android 12 now gives me a legible time read-out when my phone sits on its charger at night. Being 75 might have something to do with it. Us old folks don't do small!

My P6P 256Mb arrived yesterday and it is all good so far. Hot yes, initially; but it was workng hard transfering data from my old phone. I must say this has been the sweetest new phone install as it was so easy. Took a good while to update though.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ajsmsg78:
It's not that the design itself doesn't make sense, I just wish it could be made smaller. I'm that person who hates any type of light in the room when I'm sleeping 😁
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] henihazbay:
Haha exactly my path. S21u, and now on poco f3.

Never really liked S21u and really enjoying pocof3. But how did you install android 12? It's not officially available yet.

And my p6p will be delivered next week hoping I won't miss my poco f3
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Was_Croques:
Now that might change. I find slight illumination invaluable for avoiding obstacles during frequent nighttime trips to the bathroom! ;)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ajsmsg78:
There are plenty of custom roms for Android 12 now. I liked the Poco so much I bought two of them. I've had them for a few months. I stopped using the S21U not too long afterwards. My P6P should be here tomorrow according to FedEx after it was delayed yesterday but I'm not getting rid of the Poco's.

Well FedEx rescheduled my delivery once again. It's ok though because I already never use them because of issues like this.

🤣