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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alicee:
I'm new to this forum and have been following this thread and the AT&T thread for the Fuze for the past couple of days, but I've been waiting for this phone for awhile.

I just got back from an AT&T store in Portland, OR (where I live) and I asked the store rep. there if he knew anything and he called someone else and asked about it. After he hung up, the rep. told me the Fuze hadn't passed testing yet.

That seriously did not make any sense to me since we've already seen actual photos of the phone already. I also asked him about the BB Bold and he doesn't even know why it hasn't been released yet.

Ah... I hate playing this waiting game.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
that guy is just an unreliable source
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alicee:
^ Yeah, I figured out that much.

I was just hoping they'd have a test phone so I could play with it lol.

Oh well, I'm just going to keep on waiting because I really want this phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
Rant

I understand your frustration

Although the rep might not have anything to do with it--- I sometimes feel like punching the rep in the face for his insolence!!! How does he not know about HTC phones!!! So frustrating when they don't know anything. I then remind myself that we are HTC techies who know more about these winmo phones than they do and its not their fault. i then calm down. But the initial feeling is there. I get so pissed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] garyfunk:
Right... like you know what I do or don't know. I'm not talking about anything. I asked a question, not made a statement. Grow up little dude.

It was you that stated that you hated. Your words, not mine. You need to go back and read what you write to others.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Okay wow. I hate people that can't read. I didn't say I hate people in general. That just proved my point even more....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] garyfunk:
Allit proves is that you are a very rude and unhappy person.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
Who cares?

This isn't about either of your whimpering and cring!

If you wanna fight over the internet like children take it to PMs this post is about the FUZE, it's price and the release date, nothing else.

Please everyone involved in such a childish discussion grow up take it to PMs and stop hijacking the thread before a mod locks it!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yes. Yes, I am. Now if you would like to continue this "discussion" PM me.

Sorry ;) I'm a child and a stubborn one too. It's just people that don't read which annoys me. But so far we have this:

Retail Price: $520

Contract: $420 - $100 MIR - $20 Media Instant discount = $300

NOTE: Contract is confirmed since wayy to many people have been saying it will be $300. Proof of this and retail pricing will come later when guy2545 scans the pricing sheet. Retail pricing have had different rumors. From $500 to $550.

FAN Discount: $260 /w 2yr contract. Instant discount to $260

NOTE: FAN discount is corporate discounts. Like 50% off for USPS, Coca-Cola, AT&T employees, etc.

Possible release dates:

Oct 28th (Not very likely since stores haven't gotten dummy phones, promotion material, internal news, or pricing cards yet)

Nov 4th (Again, people believe it's possible. I don't. We'll find out on Nov 4th)

Nov 11th (Could be)

Nov 18th (Most likely IMHO)

Nov 25th (Eh, seems more late than it already is)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] papercut2199:
I understand your distress but trust me man, I went to a local ATT store, and the asked the lady about. She told me "Yes I have heard of it, but I don't have a demo unit" So this is definitely coming out, it's just you have to be patient :).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
OK, so yesterday I talked to my best friend who manages an AT&T store in PA. I've been telling him I'd switch over to AT&T from Verizon once the Fuze comes out, since the company I work for gets a 27% discount through Premier w/AT&T (which is more than the 20% I get for Verizon). The first time I mentioned this to him (back in August, I believe), he said "I don't know if we're getting that phone." I told him that was stupid, because people had the phone, but he said until AT&T completes testing on it, they never know for certain. Anyway, that's all irrelevant.

Yesterday he told me he's now handled the Fuze himself, that his regional manager has one, and that he thinks he's going to get one for free (he won't give it to me though). But he told me the phone is amazing (which, of course, I already knew). He told me that it can read business cards and save the info directly into your contacts (I was familiar the phone had this capability, but perhaps someone who has it can confirm). He also told me the phone comes out on November 4th. I told him I want the phone in my hands on that day, and he said all I have to do is say the word. That's good enough confirmation on the date for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
hopefully your source is right. because i really want this phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
I'll take your word for it. No, I won't kill you if it doesn't come out on that date. At least we have someone personal giving you a response rather than some stupid at&t rep who knows little. I still don't think they would release both the bold and the fuze on the same date. But we'll find out. That's me hoping. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
Agreed. The number of people reporting the same date from ATT employees all over the country tells me that there is a good chance the 11/4 is the day. I just hope something doesn't push it back at the last minute.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
sofware is WorldCard Mobile, section 12.16, page 265 of the manual

http://member.america.htc.com/downl...al/HTC_Touch_Pro/HTC_Touch_Pro_English_UM.pdf

my at&t corporate account manager liked it too. don't know how often i'll actually use it though.

what is it with PA and this thread. we should have a fuze party when it's all over.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
PA? And I agree lol. Fuze party when this is over.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thumbs:
I went to Best Buy and Sprint today. Best Buy had it but Sprint don't have it yet?!?! When I walked into Sprint someone greeted me and I asked "Hey do you have to touch pro on display yet?" and she looked at me weird and said "No? We don't have it." I said "Oh, well I just came from Best Buy across the street and they had it? That's weird how a retailer has it before a corporate store?" and she was like "I'm not sure but good for them!" so I went and showed my friend who was with me the Diamond and said this is basically the pro but w/o a hardware keyboard.

Then I went to att and asked about the Fuze and the person went to the back and then came back like what seemed like 10 mins since me and my friend and his brother who owns an iCrap were playing with some iCraps 3G and then came back and said "Sorry, no word on the Fuze yet. No one here knows what it is. Have you looked a phonescoop.com for it?" I said "No, but it's all over xda-developers.com and engadgetmobile.com and a bunch of other internet sites and there all saying the same Nov. 4th launch" and the response was "Oh, well check on phonescoop and check back with us when you see it there." so then I said "ok well I work at RadioShack and it's in our POS?" and she continued to say "go to phonescoop" so I said "w/e" and left the store. So ya i guess for some reason they r keeping it under raps??

I need that phone!! Come-on att release it! My Tilt got stolen and im not going to pay another $300-400 for a new one when I can get the Fuze for $520!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
Pennsylvania
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
what part of pa you in?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Mhm. AT&T knows nothing >.>

I'll sell you the Fuze for -$500 when they start selling. I'll have 5 ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Or

Retail: $520

New contract: $370

-$20 Media Instant Discount

-$50 MIR

Total of $300. Right?

The $100 MIR would suck for me. I only have $350 saved (college student, hard enough as it is) but having to get that extra $50 would actually be pretty rough.

*Just throwing something out, this thread got around 500 views in less than an hour (around 47,766-48,243). Pretty big :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
hey kraize..ill buy one from u for 400? eh eh eh?? ^_^

lmao

that is...if i dont get mines on the 4th/5th/6th/7th/8th...ish

because...IT WILL COME OUT ON THE 4th!!!...Think Positive!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
credit card?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xboxhaxorz:
my tilt got stolen, i have insurance and was going to file a claim. is the fuze going to be replacing the tilt? so they will substitute that in for me. i hope they do, but if not i will file the claim now esp since nov 3 they raise the amount from $50 deductible to $125.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
lolololol. That was pretty funny. But believe it or not =/ Credit cards are not soo good for college students. Example: "OMG I want that! (Pulls out credit card and buys).....1 month later....HOLY CRAP WDF DID I BUY FOR THAT MUCH? *sees bill*
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
File claim NOW! That is your best bet. Sorry to tell you, the fuze does replace the tilt, but they're keeping the tilt. The phone that's being discontinued is the 8525. So if you have a 8525 still under warrenty, you can replace it in a month or two with the tilt. But no Tilt to fuze. Sorry. I mean MAYBE if you've had a really bad experience with at&t tilt and had it switched more than three times, they're supposed to give you the upgraded model. (This can be easily done by flashing and taking out the battery while in the middle to make it freeze ;)) So if you did that 3 times. Complained to aee tee n tee about how cheap it is having the same problem again and again. They might upgrade you to the fuze. You'll figure it out lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i am a college student haha. and true for most of us but i managed to work full time the last 3 semesters and through high school so every month i pay off my credit card bills. but this phone needs to come out now thats what matters
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
Wow, you actually have time to work full time? I don't even have time to work part time. Being an engineering student really kills your free time.:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yeah. I'm still in high school lol. Don't have to worry much about that, althought I did by the tilt myself and am planing to buy the fuze myself also.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Haha this thread's drama has reminded me of this picture...

Anyways, I'd believe that the Fuze is coming on November 4th, but I don't really expect it. We'll see.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Just looking at your sig while browsing. Did you actually buy two fuzes?

What were the differences? And how much did you buy and sell each for. What did they include?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thumbs:
Well if you can ship it to my job and have it there on the 5th or 6th the latest for free then i think i might be able to wait the 1 or 2 days to save $20... sry the jew came out of me there lol but ya it sucks i cant buy the phone on contract since the plan im on is an employee plan... 2,000 anytime 5,000 n&w (non rollover but i have never gone over or close to going over) unlimited internet, txt, pic, vid, im, email, etc. all for $30.15 or $5.20 if my store sell enough att for the month o and that includes tax! have a full time job and being a full time student sucks when ur not on a much needed vacation like im on now lol... getting paid to do nothing :) I love it!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
They were the same pre-release model, and although I sold the second one I never actually used it. :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MRFERRARI23:
LMAOOO thats fuken hysterical b/c I know where your coming from lol.....but the way you put made me crack up cause ive been there. but the best part is when u walk in there after it comes out an go BOOMMM HTC FUZE *****ES an smile an walk out lol :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MRFERRARI23:
look i just want to say that the best part of it all is, that in fact we are getting this phone on att cause we've seen pixs etc.. annnnnnnd cause i had the actual att fuze in my hands on Saturday cause my friends an att data tech an got one for free so now alls we have to worry about, well actually not worry about cause either way its coming out so just some patience is needed!!! trust me im just as excited as the next guy to get this phone lol but well get it when it drops!!!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
they need to stop giving techs free phones and let us actually give them money earlier!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jblakk:
Your telling me, My Hermes finaly gave up the ghost. Spent 10 hours today trying to recover my radio. No luck. The "no GSM" error has stopped recovering. I got lucky and a friend of mine just switched from AT&T, and had a pantech duo sitting around. Got that up and running, and now I can limp the last week or 2 till it finaly arrives.

Oh please make it get here soon!!!!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
crapp another hermes to the grave

every time i hear a story mine seems to die a little inside

my screen keeps unalinging more so each day and i hard reset weekly now just to keep it moving
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
When we bought my wife's phone a few months ago, the sales person actually credited the rebate on the spot, reducing my out-of-pocket expense, instead of making me wait six weeks to get the debit card. I don't know if they will still do that or not, but it doesn't hurt to ask (particularly if you tell them you can't buy it now if they don't).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Yes, it can. The program is called WorldCard Mobile and it works pretty well. I've testing it out a couple of times and it does a good job of recognizing the card and putting the information in the right fields. (I've noticed a couple of small OCR errors but it's still a LOT faster than inputing them manually!)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
so is the fuze supposed to have gimped RAM and processor like the xv6850?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Mocky:
So, any plans for NATF basic, or stripped, or NoManilla, or whatever you call it, ROM for Fuse? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] AstainHellbring:
Nope Fuze has the same exact specs as the Touch pro except for a different keyboard layout and is missing the front camera
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
I live in Langhorne, but my fried manages the store (kiosk) in Montgomeryville Mall. I can give you his number, if you want him to get you the phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Absolutely... (note my updated signature)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Any chance he can get me a deal on a no contract Fuze? Or work out a renewal even though I am 13 months into a 24 month contract?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sehgal:
I just saw this website "http://www.negrielectronics.com/fuze-touch-unlocked-p-1761.html". When I contacted them, they said that they are using the old picture for the site but they are selling the AT&T Fuze this Thursday.

Do these dealers normally get the phones before AT&T?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
+1

I am kinda in the same contract boat and it is taking on water... FAST.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
I just talked to him, and he's pretty sure he can't even get me a deal on one, since the phone is so new and hot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xboxhaxorz:
Ya that sucks for me, i got to shell out $500 bucks now. Well at least i can sell the replacement tilt to help me pay for it. :) Although i wanted the warranty on the fuze cause there aint no lost/ stolen warranty via ebay :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] intothevoid:
Thats the only thing that sucks with ebay. You can't really get insurance on the phone. I bought my tilt last year from ebay and thankfully its still in perfect working condition and didn't get stolen or misplaced.

Can't wait for this to come out now. I am about to start calling the AT&T stores near me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jtoyz2:
talk to you insurance company and get a personal article policy that and insure your phone just incase its lost or stolen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ucf713:
Can't you insure a phone bought on ebay through SquareTrade.com?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] intothevoid:
Yeh you can but it doesn't cover things like theft and accidental damage which the regular insurance that's usually given by Asurian covers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
I haven't talked with them, but the web page currently says, "This product is expected to be in stock on Tuesday 04 November, 2008." I guess that's more confirmation of that as the official release date.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] picasa99:
Spoke to my Corporate ATT rep and the only news she has till now is that it’s going to be launched on 4th Nov and did not have any further information. She would let me know if she had any further details wrt price as she is also waiting desperately for it.

She did add that their store usually have the Phone when they are launched
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Crotalus:
Another PA guy here - Harrisburg
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
Pfff...I just called one of the local at&t stores and they girl who answered said that at&t wasnt getting the fuze, but she did recommend me get the bold when it comes out on the 4th. HAHA, Like im going to get the bold :p. My friends mom is a manager of another at&t store, so ill ask her about it when i go and take my samsung epix back today. Hopefully she will know something about it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
so gimped keyboard and camera? hmm.. didn't know about a "front" camera.. is that in addition to the one on the back?

so it sounds like sprint touch pro is the best?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Haha, wow, seriously?

The European versions have a front camera because they support video calling, which the US doesn't, so you won't find any US-intended phone with that. As for gimping the keyboard, haven't you looked around at the pictures? They changed the layout slightly, hardly "gimped". Use the search function.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Well, many of us think that the keyboard is "improved," not "gimped" -- much easier to type a string of numbers in a numeric keypad than stretched out across the whole width of the keyboard (hit FN twice to NumLock it).

The "front" camera is a limited (VGA) resolution camera facing you when you're looking at the screen; it's for video conferencing, which none of the North American carriers provide, so it's no big loss for those of us in the U.S. Sprint's version doesn't have that, either.

If you like the original keyboard instead of the more-convenient AT&T version, then I guess Sprint's version is better; otherwise, I don't think there's much to distinguish them, apart from carrier issues (CDMA vs GSM, etc.).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
The only advantage I see that Sprint has is that I can get one today. But being that I have an upgrade available on AT&T its really not worth it. Plus I don't like the curved corners at all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] centex99:
keyboard... isn't it likely that the keyboard could be remapped to the original layout anyway? (Obviously key labels wouldn't match)

Though, personally I like the idea of the ATT layout... just can't wait for the release...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
I guess I misinterpreted what I read about the keyboard.. I was under the impression they removed an entire row but infact they just changed the top row to punctuation... I guess it doesn't really matter either way but you're probably right saying punctuation is used MUCH more frequently than numbers too (not requiring fn press)...

Guess I'll wait to see what vzw finally comes out with (hardware wise) before I decide what I'm doing... but ATT does look to be better than sprint, if nothing else, for the network ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
I didn't like the change to the keyboard at first but after using the Fuze for a few days I really like the keyboard layout. Not having to press a function key to type @ is a nice feature!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zellbz:
The verizon tp iz really stripped down and iz missing alot of the good hardware. You can see the vz tp on engadget mobile. A couple of my friends wit sprint tp's say dat it gives alot of problems so dey had 2 return theirs. Anyone else heard of this problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
In case you haven't seen these yet...

TP Verizon Specs doesn't say a whole lot

TP Verizon Pic
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Wow. I feel kinda lucky. And those of you that have a FAN discount. USPS, coca-cola, at&t employees, etc. In california, you can get the phone half off retail instant /w 2 yr contract. In every other state, you can get the phone half off retail without any contract. It's definately worth it for $260 /w upgrade. Or if my friend can get it to me without upgrade since I can't travel out of state >.> You guys should try contacting friends that are USPS, coca-cola, or at&t employees that don't live in California and use AT&T. If they live in a well populated state, chances are, they can get you a fuze for $260 either w/o contract or /w 2 yr contract. Keep in mind, if you early upgrade, you can't get this discount. I did with my tilt, and they wouldn't let me get this discount. Since an early upgrade cancels out all discounts. To actually qualify for an upgrade, I think you have to be about 14-16 months into your contract. I am with 1 line, my line isn't. (Family plan ^_^). So that is your best bet guys. Find friend, get fuze :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Bah. Sprint's TP has been giving a lot of problems. My friend got one, and it blows. I mean the phone is nice. I kinda liked the rounded edges, but it had too many problems. And the Vzw one is retarded. It looks fugly and it's crippled T.T WTF Vzw. They killed the design, it looks like a very early rendering of the euro tp. And they took out some hardware =/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
lots of sprint phones have issues but if your friends aren't used to WinMo that could be it too. and some people i work with at best buy said the test one from sprint was laggy. could be the ROM

everyone who has used the fuze said its snappy
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
only 260? i work in BBY mobile so i get a special plan and i am qualified for an upgrade but im not sure if i will get the rebate so im considering the FAN thing. can u see the price for best buy?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Okay. Um do you mean the price for BestBuy employees? Or literally the best buy. Well. Here is how you know you get a discount.

See this part of my bill. It show's my discount.

The red, show's the monthly discount that I get. I'm just trying to give you an example. Now go check your bill and see if you have something like that.

Or log into your account in wireless.att.com and see if you have something like this:

Some things were obviously white out for obvious reasons ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
Another thing Verizon is DEFINITELY going to do is cripple the gps.. they did that with their wm6.1 release for the titan.. the only carrier i know of that did this so they could sucker people into paying for vznavigator.. obviously you can cook your own ROM and get around this (and there are some os patches/drivers too) but having everything enabled in the stock ROM sure would be nice...

I honestly haven't been following ATT too much do they allow GPS and specifically aGPS on their devices?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yes. They don't cripple much. The only thing that's crippled is the FM radio.