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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thumbs:
wow ok just got off the phone with 611 to report the tilt stolen and then asked if they had any info on the fuze like release date or price and said ok one moment please. came back and asked what was it? the motorola vue? i said no the htc fuze. o ok who was the manf.? htc or at&t. came back and said no info on release date. ok so w/ no release date info no price plan? well i think i have something... ya no contract is 450 with contract is 250 and then if u order online theres a 100 mir... i think he was getting confused with the tilt since its 450 no contract, 300 w/ contract and 100 mir so that was fun talking to him lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
And even that isn't crippled very badly. You just have to install the cab file and it works fine.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
They did cripple the front video cam but so did Sprint and VZN so all in all it's not too bad at all. FM radio and TV out I could really care less about although I'll probably install the cabs just to have all the features.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RRHelly:
Easton, PA here. (Lehigh Valley)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] AstainHellbring:
What problems does he have with the sprint Touch Pro? All I have heard is good things about it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
It was slow. Some things didn't work. His internet didn't work. Even after talking to Sprint. He was getting frustrated and returned it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Well i just got back from my Local Best Buy (Miami, Fl)

and i saw the Touch Pro for Sprint.

First Impressions...its really small...like not tiny, but i guess im just used to the iPhone that i have now with the big screen, that when i looked at the touch pro the actual device is smaller than the entire iPhone screen..and ofcourse the screen is smaller.

The chrome Trim that the Sprint version has, is ok. I personally dont like, cuz it seems a bit too shiny and cheap looking. but its ok.

The Best buy employee working in the phone section, came up to me and asked if i had any questions..and i asked if he knew when the HTC Fuze for AT&T will be coming out. And his responce was "oh umm im not really sure, its gonna be a while until AT&T get their version of the touch pro, maybe about another month or so...mayyybbeee"

and then he said..."But the wait is well worth it, the Touch Pro is an AMAZING PHONE" and he pulls one out of his pocket.....:eek: :D

It was the sprint one ofcourse, but it was an actual working one, unlike the dummy i was looking at. the Keyboard is snappy, and very firm, theres no Play in it like ive heard. WM 6 is great, no lag. He showed me the web browser, and it was working with Wifi OFF and it was very quick. Not WIFI speeds, but noticiably good/fast.

He also showed me a program that he had just installed, which was the Business Card recognizer. It took a picture of a business card from best buy, and after about 3-5 seconds. The information came up on the screen, with the name and numbers and the rest of the information, available to edit and save into a contact.

It was great. The phone looked amazing, and it just made the freaking wait for the FUZE even WORSE for me :( lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
Just received my shiny new Fuze! got is off ebay... it's finally in my hands :) One thing is for sure though, AT&T has it bloated to hell. There is so much crap preinstalled. I did try to pair my jawbone 2 and it won't work right... haven't figured it out yet, hoping to find a stable cooked ROM to load.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
How much did u pay for it? 700-800 bucks?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rckaflla88:
Fuze usable overseas?

I was wondering if anybody knew if a store bought Fuze (hopefully as of next week) could be used overseas and whether it would have to be unlocked to do this. For instance if I pop in a orange simcard from the uk or vodafone. Would that work? Cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Dramacydle:
Yes, it could be used in Europe (it is a quad-band GSM phone), but it would have to be unlocked to work with a non-AT&T sim card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
Pic or it didnt happen. :D haha jk. but a pic would be appreciated.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
esp the back of it

i only saw one low-quality pic
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rckaflla88:
I suppose i'm at the right forum to ask this, would it be fairly easy to unlock the phone?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yes. There are a couple ways:

1. Call AT&T and get code to unlock

2. Wait for a developer to develop a CID unlocker here

3. Go to Wireless.att.com and sign in to your account, change phone to fuze, and there was a place you can get the unlock code from (I'll tell you when I remember lol)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
This is what I've been trying to tell everyone, when I first showed the keyboard to the Fuze there was an outcry against it, but it seriously is the better way to go. Everyone will realize eventually that it just makes more sense.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
It isn't going to work. They don't sell them for that much off. It used to be listed in premier but they never really gave that much off. Now they don't even show a percentage off.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Mhm. But isn't there a program that allows you to just press and hold a key and it can select the other symbol? I know I saw one in the kaiser forum. But I don't remember the name. You'll have to create a keyboard map for the fuze though for it to work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gg222:
What I'll miss is the CTL key. I like being able to press ctl - enter and have the www and .com added for you. Also the function key. I use mocha to connect to an AS/400 and would like an easy way to press F1-F24.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Um yeah. You keep telling yourself that. ;) It has worked before. I really don't care if your premier account doesn't show percentage off because I never really looked at premier or logged into it anyways :P And I actually know for a fact that I can get it for that much. I don't care much for premier. I just call up at&t and they look into it and voila. It works. It would've worked for my tilt in February if I had not used an early upgrade.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xboxhaxorz:
I have a fan account with usps. But since i just renewed my contract i still wont be able to get the upgrade or are you saying i can? Trying to avoid buying from ebay due to hindering me insurance wise.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
$640 +10 shipping,
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Depends. Do you live in Cali? If you don't, you're supposed to be eligible for buying any phone 50% off retail w/o contract except the iPhone. If you're in Cali, sorry dude. You can only upgrade and get the 50% off deal. That is because Cali has some special privileges.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Nice...the last Ebay Fuze, sold today for $785 + $20 shipping
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
Speaking of the keyboard guys, I just flashed my Fuze with ROMeOS 1.21, needless to say it is an outstanding ROM (very fast). BUT I now have to figure out how to remap the keys on the keyboard... ROMeOS is set up for the top row to be #'s not symbols :confused:

See attached: for the skeptics, (don't worry I am the biggest one of all :cool:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
I think this should do it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
And wow. Diamond and TP. Rich much :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
this is what i was worried about

but cant someone simply take that ROMeOS and change the keyboard layout then make it available
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
omg...that adapter is HUGE!!!

but either way...im jealous of u having the Fuze...ugh! :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
I tried what you said, but first off I didn't have a registry key named CSWLayout in kybd... I attempted to add a dword value myself and set the Dec to 1 no go :(

did i do it wrong?

Nevermind! I entered the Dword value wrong.... CWSLayout not CSWLayout... It worked Eureka! Thanks Kraize!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Np. Now if someone could make a cab so it does that automatically. I would, but I have no idea how to >.<
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
wait changing that one registry makes the entire keyboard the way the fuze should be?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
Yes it put the numbers in the middle w/func key, and symbols on top. Some keys do not map correctly (AT&T specific programs)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
how about the windows button and ok button?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hondaguyjoe:
Well I just sold my touch pro (EU version) I actually made about 150 off of it in the end when I get my live cashback back. I spoke to a guy at a diffrent store to the one I normally go to when I asked about it, it was sort of like deer in head lights look, like what do I say the truth or deny it exsist look. He went in the back and about 10 min later he came back with his card and told me he should have some at the end of the week and call him thursday. Im keeping my fingers crossed. my poor 8525 is on its last leg and I really got hooked on the touch while I had it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
They are in the correct locations
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
awesome to hear

how easy is it to flash romeos to it anyway
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
No front camera is nothing new...

Sebrina, They didn't cripple it because in a sense there wasn't anything to cripple. The front camera would be superfluous.The US does not support video call which is what the front cam is used for.

The Kaiser and Hermes do indeed have front cameras. However, the 8525 and the Tilt do not.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
ATT Site being updated

A bit ago a search on ATT home page for fuze had tpop two results show fuze. Then that stopped and a search on htc came back with two fuze hits. Now you get nothing but the comercial product (i think it is) is under maintenance. May be good to look in the morning.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Here is a screenshot, found on the AT&T forums and originally posted by wldcrd1088: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JNcs7fTrej8/SQaTQrG8nnI/AAAAAAAAAFs/u_34fMuzmtc/s1600-h/Picture+1.png
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wldcrd1088:
thanks for putting this up and recognizing me bigby252. i just made the same post over at the att forum http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=105142

here's a picture of the search result for those who didnt catch it in time. and yes as fredinco stated the business center on ATT is currently down http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JNcs7fTrej8/SQaTQrG8nnI/AAAAAAAAAFs/u_34fMuzmtc/s1600-h/Picture+1.png or go to www.techheck.blogspot.com to see it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
lol good luck with that

If it requires for your upgrade to be available, how then can you get 5?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TaurenSnake:
LOL Look I can get this one cheaper than you on my premier page. Cant wait to see the price I might get my Fuze for.

****** Employee Company Exclusive Offer

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BlackBerry 8820 is now available for as low as $149.99 with activation on an AT&T Voice Plan with a Monthly Service Charge of $39.99 or higher plus BlackBerry Enterprise Plan ($45/month) plus either (i) AT&T Push to Talk ($5/month); or (ii) AT&T Navigator Unlimited ($9.99/month). - All devices MUST be activated on a 2 year service with a $39.99 or higher voice plan - Promotion runs until Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:59pm PST. - This promotional price replaces profile pricing if the profile pricing for BlackBerry 8820 is greater than the promotional price.

Certain promotions may not be combined. Through Premier, AT&T will provide you the best promotional prices available with your selections. View promotion terms and conditions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Um wow. Did you read my post? lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] CalifornIyay:
25% off my monthly bill, I am not complaining:p

But I will not get an upgrade only because I want to keep my $20 data plan so I will buy full price. Time to sell my ATARI 2600 & He-Man action figures lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TaurenSnake:
Yeah it seams i only get a 3% on my service discount. I would much rather have a better monthly discount than the cheaper hardware prices.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i have a special plan through best buy mobile i get 3000 mins and unlimited text and data for 40 bucks but at this point i dont know what i will have to pay for the phone. im elligible to upgrade so at most 400 but hopefully i get the rebate too
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
So what is it? Can you buy it without a contract and get a discount or not? If you can buy it without a contract and get a discount, why couldn't you do it with your Tilt? Because of an upgrade? But you just said you can buy it without a contract and get a discount.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
I just tried searching for htc on AT&T's site and get varying results. Sometimes it comes back with this as the second result:

Windows Mobile PDAs | AT&T wireless services

... HTC FUZEâ„¢ (touch screen) HTC takes Windows Mobile smartphone design to the next

level with the introduction of the highly desirable and elegant HTC FUZE. ...

It seems to be about every other search, but the link doesn't actually take you to the phone. I hope this means we are getting closer to an official release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
I have noticed that since the last time the page was accidentally put up for the second time... just means that their cache appliance is flaky, lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i hate att stores. i just called a few and one guy actually admitted that the store finally got info about the fuze in but no release date and he said he thinks around black friday. another store said in december sometime. grr
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
stores obviously dont know crap.. not even worth bothering with.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
I stopped by an AT&T kiosk yesterday, and the guy there said he just came from the training for the phone, and that they have a demo, but they're not allowed to show it to anyone. He also said that the phone is usually released about a month after the training, which would put it around Black Friday.

My friend who manages the AT&T store however, maintains his belief that the phone will be "launched" on November 4th, and he says that the stores will usually have the phone on the launch date. I also asked him (since Kraize was wary about it) when the Blackberry Bold would be launched, and he said that it would also be launched on November 4th. My reply to him was why would AT&T release two business phones on the same day? And he said "because we can". interesting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
exactly, i'm not even going to bother with the stores, just going to be camping on premier waiting for it to come out on nov. 4th. forget reps who string you along.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
ya I'm probably going to end up with this phone too and I'm anxious to ditch Verizon because they've done nothing but disappoint me as far as pda devices go. worth paying the cancel fee I guess..

Not knowing when ATT is releasing the fuze is really running my patience thin though, espeically knowing I can go to best buy and get the touch pro right now if I jump onto sprint.. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
When i went to my att store to buy my Samsung Epix, the manager(know her personally, not some random employee) told me they got the Samsung Epix in for training only a few days before they released it.

I'm going to take this Samsung Epix back this weekend for a refund. I would rather have the Fuze instead :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jtsurfs:
I spoke to someone at my local corporate store, the person was very knowledgeable about the phone, was currently testing it. He said they had not received phones yet, but they are expecting them by the end of the month, which is only a couple days away. I am supposed to receive a call from the salesperson when they get them, but he also said to call back later this week. I will post back if I get the phone before the weekend.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
Does she know if there will be any black friday deals for the fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
I'm not sure. I'm fixing to give her a call about returning this Epix. I'll ask her if she knows when they are coming in and if there will be any deals for black friday. Do they usually give deals on phones for black friday, thought that was just for clothes and furniture from bed, bath, and beyond :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vsanch24:
Does anyone know if the TF3D interface shown on the HTC Website is an available theme on the AT&T Fuze? I am hoping I can set it to that theme from the whiter theme I have heard the AT&T Fuze comes defaulted with.

I appreciate any and all comments.

-VSANCH24
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
there are tons of themes available. check the section under the diamond forum peope make them and you can put them on and the original htc one is available
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vsanch24:
Excellent, thank you for your reply.

And just to clarify, the HTC one is pre-loaded on the AT&T Fuze or do I need to go to the Diamond Forum and install it once purchasing a Fuze hopefully in 11 days? ( I guess I should have made this point clearer in my original posting.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i dont believe it is preloaded. what you will want to get is the TF3D customizer so you can actually change tabs add them and delete as well as order them and on top of that you can change icons both in landscape and portrait and of course backround and overall theme
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i work at best buy mobile when im home but im at school now. i talked to ppl back home in the store they have no new info on its release. and usually we get phones later then att stores do
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dontdo_that:
I checked the last few pages of the thread and couldn't find the stock sheet. Could someone please tell me what page its on? I'm not going to search 60+ pages for it lolol :D

Or maybe link it here.. or get it stickied? Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
I haven't seen it here, but I did find something from

BGR.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dontdo_that:
Thanks! too bad its like impossible to read the text on the sheet in the picture
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] venelar:
Bottom left, above the bgr logo. Although who knows at this point with the Nov 3rd date being tossed around.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dontdo_that:
aha, thank you. has there be any confirmation of price? 300 with a 100 rebate sounds very reasonable.. i almost expected it to be more, although i can't reference to the price of the tilt
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Someone at Radio Shack leaked a picture of the computer at work showing the Fuze's pricing, they were going to sell it for $549.99 without contract. Typically with AT&T, that means $399 with contract, and $100 rebate to make it $299.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] btprice2001:
Do you know are there typically any conditions for the rebate, ie you have to have a pda data plan, etc?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] naveen:
yup, you need to buy some sort of extra package---

data

text messaging
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] htc$t@t1c:
yes u can change it but not whats on the att app menu :-\
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] htc$t@t1c:
i have the same issue in my area. so far i can notice a big difference. :D. sadly i still thing my blackberry curve is the best for reception.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] htc$t@t1c:
currect. I dont mind it . possibly because ive never used the touch pro. it definetly is something to get used to
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
they added a whole nother tab with their own apps?

sorry if i misread
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Yeah, there's an AT&T tab on the Fuze, here's a ****ty screenshot... The checker pattern you see doesn't exist on the device, photobucket feels the need to resize every image and that's why it looks like hell.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twallclimber:
i am glad the keyboards havent been changed since 8525s. i have at&t tilt. the numbers on keyboard is much easier to type with right thunb. my old 8125's keyboard is much like original touch pro which i dont like because it made my left thumb to type. i think at&t fuze's keyboard is perfect... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zephxiii:
As an 8125 and 8525 owner, i agree 100 percent! Top row of numbers sux. Also i had to type out the word 'percent' because my 8525 doesn't have a button for its symbol, lol.

does it have a caps, and function indicator light? that is something i would love.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
oh wow well hopefully a new tf3d customizer version will come out and let us disable that tab
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
training dates might be regional?

i just met with our ATT corporate account manager. he is personally attending the training oct 23 and will keep the device. he will meet with me oct 24 so i can see it.

i then met with the manager of our local ATT store. he confirmed that he is sending his data specialist to training on oct 23 and will also be keeping the device after the training. he said i could see it evening of oct 23 or next day.

i mentioned to both of them about sebrina's info from NYC and they both said training dates could be slightly different by region (we are philly suburbs).

neither of them knew how soon after training the stores would be stocked, but both said "very soon". regardless, i will still wait until it is <= 30 days of black friday to make sure i benefit from any deals going on at that time.

so i was promised by two managers with whom i have some past business relationships that for this area, oct 23 is the training date with release "very soon thereafter", and that i can personally try one oct 24. we shall see.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
That is the best info I have heard in some time. So it seems we have some saying that training is 10/16 and available maybe on 10/23 and then some training on 10/23 and available soon maybe a week later or 10/30 (I hope).

Does anyone have or remember how long these roll-outs take? It is reasonable, I guess, that they would not drop everywhere on the same day so is there a guess at how long it could take nationally once one "region maybe" drops?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wolfnumba1:
does the att version retain the control key for keyboard shortcuts (i.e. control c for copy, control x for cut, etc?)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
The HTC one is not pre-loaded. You'll have to download it from the Diamond forum and install it with Diamond TF3D config (which is also available on the Diamond forums).

A word of warning, though. A lot of the Diamond themes don't have working Landscape modes so when you slide the keyboard out you get an unusable screen. One of the better theme gurus is working on it, though, so there will probably be an HTC Black theme that works for the Fuze available by the time it's released.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vsanch24:
Ah, okay, great comment. Thank You ITNV. I am sure once the TouchPro is more available in the world a Themes section will be created under the Raphael thread on this board. And this Themes sub-thread will have themes that work in landscape mode and possible with the 640 x 480 screen resolution.

Thank you again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
Yay. I just found out the Microsoft Discount is going to be $189.99 w/ no contract! Now I can get one for my girlfriend too. She was planning on settling on the EPIX phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
As in... working for Microsoft?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
Yeah. MS and ATT have some great discounts worked out. The problem, is that ATT seems to always have crappier WM phones then everyone else (presumably because they don't want anything to compare to their precious iPhone).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
they have the tilt and the fuze both are the best so what are you talking about?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
Bad news everyone. I've heard rumblings of the Fuze being pushed back to November 17th.