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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wooties:
crap

Sad, say it isn't so! I've been itching for one and I'm changing jobs on the 10th, it was perfect timing to get a new att contract.

poo
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
rumblings from?

i dont know why they dont just release it and only mention it to those who specifically ask for it at first

then as they get rid of tilts actually put it out for display then everyones happy
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
Yeah. It was an ATT store I've been in contact with for a while. Still place it in the rumor bucket for now, but I'm not optimistic any more...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
NOOOOOooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo say it aint sooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
i believe at&t had some black friday deals last yr. thx!

do they have limits/terms associated with this? I might have to ask my Msoft friend for a hook-up if it isnt too much trouble for him...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
Hmm... the fact that this info came from an at&t store tells me it's less than reliable info. But thanks to johndango for letting us know anyway.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
yeah att stores have been telling me as late as december. then one told me the 27th and now hes saying next week

they are all over the place
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
The AT&T rep at my store still hasn't even heard of it as of an hour ago. When I asked him about video out cables and other accessories he said: "You know more than I do, you have a phone that doesn't exist."

Not a good sign.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
OMG, why won't they just announce SOMETHING...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
As has been said several times already, there is no need to worry about the fact that store reps are unaware of the Fuze. Often times they are not even aware of phones until their stores receive their shipments. AT&T reps are regular people who are naturally less informed about upcoming phones than we are because most of them do not spend their free time researching upcoming phones as we do. Couple that with the fact that AT&T makes little effort to inform its employees of upcoming releases and we end up with reps who believe that phones do not exist because they have not seen them in their stores yet. So stop worrying everyone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
ya i called about 10 in my semi area

half still didnt know about it. one said they just recieved info but no date another knows only cause of stuff on here
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
ATT will bleed customers... as sprint now has them all over best buys and in some stores... there are even people on XDA willing to jump ship for this thing,
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
I don't think there are enough people willing to switch to a worse network (depending on where you live, of course) so that they can get a phone two weeks earlier for AT&T to even have to worry about that. They probably will lose a few customers, but nothing significant.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xboxhaxorz:
Ill check that out. I knew we had the 50% but i didnt know it was w/ o contract as well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
Agreed, but wouldn't it have been nice if an ATT exec read the post and decided to release the phone finally :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hitekdude:
christmas

yea it is like christmas i love it:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Thanks for asking :)

So wait. You're saying that they'll give you a 75%!?!?!?!?!?! discount? Even I don't think that's possible. The most they give to any employees (as far as I know) is 50%. I really don't think that's possible. I'll go ask a friend who works for mircrosoft and get back to you. Btw. Can you get a discount on the iPhone aswell? :rolleyes:

Pssh. That's kinda good news. WOO HOO MY B-DAY is Nov17 :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
Well guys, I just got back from the AT&T store to return my EPIX and I asked my friend about the Fuze. She pulled one out of her pocket. :D:D I played around with it for a few minutes(couldnt really get in-depth with it). I asked her for a release date but she didnt know. she told me to call back in 1-2 days and she they might have the release date. I think this is good news because they realeased the EPIX a few days after training models came in. So hopefully it will be released on the 4th.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Hopefully...im about to crack O_O :eek::mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
They relaesed the epix so fast because its samsung. and the iphone cause its apple. They have huge contracts with these companies. Hell I even seen the Bold at Best Buy 2day. at 86th Lex NYC. I hate 2 sound negetive but I think the Bold wil lbe out before the Fuze. HTC is Small 2 them. so they dont give a **** about HTC. I hope i'm wrong.

But if Best buy Have the Fuze or Touch Pro US before ATT. I'll be buying from Best Buy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
I hate to say that I agree with you. Bummer
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
I agree with you but the last two sentences? Why? that doesn't make any sense :rolleyes: Fuze won't come out to best buy before it comes to at&t. And Touch Pro US won't be released unlocked until AT&T will because I think the deal is that after the contract gsm phone is released, then the unlocked gsm would be. Don't remember where that's from, but that's what I know >.>
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Question to those that already have a Fuze/Touch Pro: Can you enable bluetooth while flight mode is on?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Yea, when i went to best buy on monday, i saw both the Touch Pro for Sprint, and i saw the Bold.

I was gonna take a picture but was distracted by the Touch Pro...lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] helraiser:
Flight mode just turns all wireless transmitters/receivers off. turn bluetooth on and your phone's no longer in flight mode.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
True, but how about this, flight mode for most people means phone off? As in on-flight. So just turn the cellular radio off and turn the bluetooth on :) I've done that on a plane a lot. Don't use flightmode unless you want to disable all communications. I just disable phone and keep bt enabled.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Ok, makes sense now. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
My point was 2 buy the phone whoever gets it fist. BTW its possible that Best Buy can get the phone first . Theyve proven that with the Bold. its ATT branded not unlocked $349 contract 679 w/o contract. They got the touch pro before sprint. So its reasonable to assume they can get the ATT Fuze before ATT does. I would prefer a Touch Pro US Version unlocked. But I'll take any cause i'm tired of waiting lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i can almost promise you and gaurentee you bb wont get the fuze first. i work in bby mobile and bb has a good partnership with both sprint wich you saw with the instinct release and the touch pro as well as blackberry

but htc they arent fans of as the devices dont sell well at bb and get returned alot cuz stupid people bought them who didnt know how to work them. we got the tilt very late and got rid of it a while ago too

but the price was much cheaper for it when we did have it. and of course no rebate and no data plan required
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] indymcse:
Well, I for one am getting tired of waiting and getting tired of having to take the battery out of my BJ at least once a day because it's locked up. I think I'm gonna get an EPIX and see how it works for me at least until the FUZE is released. I know I have 30 days and hopefully the FUZE will be out for sure before my 30 are up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Crotalus:
I've been thinking the same thing. My 8525 is still going strong but i may pick up an iPhone this weekend to play around with. My contract was up in June but my wife still has a few weeks left on hers. She doesnt need a PDA phoen and has been looking at the LG Vue, the Pantech Matrix and the iPhone. I think the iPhone would be good for her so I may get the iPhone for both of us to test then return it when the Fuze is released.

The 30 day thing has me concerned though, God forbid the Fuze gets delayed until mid-December. in that case coudl i return the iPhone (<30days)and go back to my 8525 until the Fuze is released and still get the 2 yr contract discount?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pack4life69:
As long as you return the phone within the 30 days buyers remorse policy it will reset your contract and upgrade eligibility. However you may want to make sure the agent at the store processes the return correctly otherwise your upgrade date may get messed up. You will however be responsible for the 10% restocking fee. Normal phones (non-Iphone 3Gs) have a 20 dollar restocking fee at Corporate stores but the iPhone 3G has a 10% restocking fee.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
I'm thinkin' it's gonna be around mid november... maybe the 16th..?

I have an informal meetup scheduled w/ one of the HTC guys here in Seattle on the 14th, to chat a bit =P

and I don't think he'd have anything to chat about unless there was something officially solid to chat about... ya know^^;
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
What, you don't think he wants to talk about the Sprint Touch Pro? Or the Verizon XV6850? ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Decer:
Just got off the phone with our main AT&T building in our area and the lady told me that while their techs in store did have the Fuze for demonstration purposes it would probably be mid-November before it was release as there are some "problems" with it that they want fixed first.

One of those other smaller branch's around here told me they wouldn't have it in that particular store till December

Take it for what it is, honestly I'm not taking anything to incredibly serious about proposed release dates or store information till something is actually "official"
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g8m3rtag:
The iPhone 3G has the 10% restocking fee like previously mentioned, so for the 8GB that would be $20, but you also only have 14 days to return it, unlike other phones that have 30 days.

http://consumerist.com/consumer/buy...10-restocking-fee-if-box-is-opened-272830.php

So my current phone isn't a smart phone. I am eligible for an upgrade. If I were to go upgrade to an iPhone, than 14 days later return it and use my upgrade than to get the Fuze (if it's out). If it's not out, could I return the iPhone and go back to using my current phone until the Fuze comes out?

So I would get the $200 back minus $20 for the restocking fee. so I add to the $180 to get the Fuze and basically used an iPhone for 2 weeks for $20?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
By the air quotes, I'm guessing she didn't go into any specifics on what the "problems" were?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Decer:
No she didn't give me any specifics on the problems themselves. Just that they were not releasing the phone till they were fixed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pack4life69:
The original iPhone had a 14-day return policy however the iPhone 3G has a 30 days buyers remorse. So you can return it within 30 days as long as its in "like-new" condition with no visable damage, in the original packaging with reciept and returned to the point of sale. So the 10% restocking fee would be 20.00 for the 8GB 199.99 model. As long as you return it in the buyers remorse policy you can upgrade to a different make/model phone including the Fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g8m3rtag:
If the Fuze isn't out would it cost more for them to re-activate my old SIM card in my current phone? There is also the activation charge in addition to the 10% restocking fee isn't there?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pack4life69:
If a SIM card was de-activated it can never be activated again for AT&T. If you upgrade your phone there is an 18 "upgrade" fee added to the bill. If its a new line of service its $36 or $26 dollar activation fee. You will either use your SIM card they activate for the iPhone 3G into your old phone or they can give you another SIM card. There would be no activation charge to activate the old phone if you cancel in buyers remorse period and the SIM card doesn't have to be returned because it cant ever be used again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
The longer it takes to drop the more anti-climactic this release will be for me. I am already thinking of holding out for the X1a... I know, I know...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pack4life69:
Last year the Tilts official press release was on October 4th (http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=24486) and the phone released for sale on October 5th so thats just how AT&T tends to release HTC phones. You dont hear anything about it from them until the day before they launch the phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] veloaudio:
I'm even thinking about the X1i. Better video capture and I don't need 850 3G.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
Knowing ATT they won't release the X1 until Jan 2008 I hate how they do phone releases, no statments lots of delays and a press conference 1 DAY before release it makes me angry!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cp1md2b:
u mean 2009.:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
TV OUT > ALL
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] CalifornIyay:
I am having a funny feeling the Fuze wont be released on the 4th only because of the up coming elections but thats my theory.

The only way to find out is wait until then and hopfully we will have the Fuze in our hands.

If I have to wait until 2009, I may end up getting the Experia X1 but since I am poor I might just get the Chinese clone version from

chinagrabber.com..

Or this cool gold watch phone which is sure turn heads and feel like that true "G" you really are but it might turn your wrist green with in one week of wearing it and lets hope its water proof:D

Or

This cool HTC Diamond clone Diamond J6...LOL

All fun and games to side, I think I will Wait for the Fuze...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DavidJ84:
That sounds about right... I stopped in a Best Buy earlier today and the guy said they weren't going to carry the Fuze at all. The first guy I asked didn't have a clue what the Fuze was, but this other guy jumped in and said he had been waiting for it too. He thought that they weren't getting it so the corporate stores have something exclusive to sell since Best Buy already got the Bold. Makes sense, but I was hoping to get a release date out of 'em since it's (hopefully) so close now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
lol, dats super tricked out pimp, yo. :D

wonder if it comes with any gold teef?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
I just stopped by a store in nyc

While on the line, I saw the guy in front of me buying a bold

Naturally, I asked the rep whether the bold was out, and he said it's "officially" out on 11/4

I also asked him whether the fuze will come out on the same date, and he was pretty sure that's unlikely

I'm gonna stop by tomorrow to check one out, as the rep who supposedly has one wasn't in today

Given all the new info flooding in the last couple of days, I'm afraid the 11/4 launch is unlikely for fuze :(

I hope I'm dead wrong
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
"Great" info from stores.

Ok we all know that stores give either no information or bad information. Never going to argue that point as it is so obvious. However, as I have called local stores every few days, the trend of their answers is at least interesting if not amusing. Their answers about a release have gone from "we have heard nothing" or "probably by xmas" to today all saying that they know of it and they are scheduled for training. Two local stores say their training is next week and that they usually get the phones within a week of that. Therefore, with the bold out on the 4th, and Fuze training the 5th or 6th, I think we are narrowing things down to a release around the 11th which is what I hear from some other threads. So we certainly do not know a lot but the answers are getting more consistant.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
Allow me to summarize the last 840 posts in this thread.

AT&T is consistently inconsistent.

The in-store reps know absolutely nothing with regards to price and release date.

Sometime before I turn one year older (read: March 2009), the Fuze will be released.

There we go.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
Personally I don't see the point behind this thread anymore. We won't know anything about the phone's release until about a day or so before you just so happen to be on the AT&T site and boom there it is. While some of the stories told on here about the outstanding level of incompetence in the employees AT&T chooses to hire have been funny as hell, I think we're beating a dead horse here.

Like NotATreoFan said, there you go.

Like I'm saying, close this down. It'll be out when it's out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
possibly the most insightful comment in this thread. i agree, there's not much more we can know about the phone until we freakin have it in our hands. *twidles thumbs until mid-november*
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
you can't shut down this thread what the he** will i do at work!!!:eek: besides what if someone grabs a fuze from a store bb or att store before we know its release everyone should know about it!!! i check this thread about 5000 times a day!!! sad- yes, keeps me busy - yes HEHE:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Crotalus:
ditto for me too, keep it alive
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Ditto x2

i do that same...and yes it will be out when its out.

and Nov. 4 or Nov 11 cant come any sooner

but now that im looking at it...i think its definately going to be a Nov 11 release...were 6 days away from nov 4..and NOONE seems to know anything.

So guys....Fuze? or jump ship and go for the cheap G1 from tmobile?!? lmao
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
WINMO brahhhh you can't go wrong. android doesnt even hvae 1/100 of hte software/tweaks that winmo has. i can never have another op system on my cell now!!! between this site and ppcW you have unlimited software. i love having tomtom on my phone!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
unproductive post sorry
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gatordent:
Keep the thread alive! I got my FUZE on ebay, and I still check this thing at lease 4 times a day
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
must be bc ur a giants fan HAHA

BRAHHH read two lines up saying if the fuze with winmo is better or not that the piece of crap android!!! :eek:

"So guys....Fuze? or jump ship and go for the cheap G1 from tmobile?!? lmao "
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jtoyz2:
can you post some picture of your fuze...the one u got on ebay...i really want to see the back of the fuze and see if its the same as the original touch pro and not the sprint one where its all flat...

anyways side note...i called att and they say they are expected it but DONT know when...i asked him have u been asked this question before and he said yes...so i asked him why dont you get the answer if you been asked this question before...his reply was its not part of my job to know release date...GREAT!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Here are a couple of shots of the one I got off eBay. It's hard to get a good picture of the back because of the weird angles and the glare but you can see that it is like the original and NOT like the sprint version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
AGAIN YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY!!! did you get the tv out wire yet??? i think i might have to sell my zune since this also has fm radio
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
i have an 8525 now thats on its last legs but i wanna compare the thickness of the fuze. INTV do you have an 8525 or tilt if you do can you take a pic side by side to see hwo thick the fuze is??? or next to something else that will show how thick it is... thanks brah(i love zoolander)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] htcfan78:
With the back angled like that, does it sit flat/level on a desk?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Haven't had any luck with the TV out cable yet. I tried a 3.5mm A/V out cable but it didn't like that so I'm trying to get a 2.5mm cable and see if that works.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Yeah, the three highest points are the same level so it sits flat and level on a desk no problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
My Tilt is all packaged up to ship out so I can't get a side-by-side pic but they are practically the same thickness. (The Fuze is a couple of mm thinner.) But because the Fuze is more narrow, it doesn't feel as thick. (Also fits way better in a pocket.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
SWEET thanks bro. how about the thickness question?? last of the day i promise!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
No problem. Check the post right before yours. Looks like I just beat ya! :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] samuel20709:
Well I was going to jump ships from ATT to sprint for the TP.. but then i found out u can't flash any rom's on the CDMA version :eek: u can only flash CDMA rom's

So I'll be joining the wait for the fuze :(

And my hands are inching for it my 8525 died about 3 weeks ago and im phone-less
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
what?! where did you read this? there are roms already out there for sprint as far as i've seen browsing?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] samuel20709:
I mean my favorite Rom cookers probably won't be releaseing CDMA roms :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] venelar:
I was bored and killing some time in town today so i went by the local best buy in baton rouge to mess with their sprint version. It wasn't an activated phone (couldn't turn on, typical BB demo). I was really impressed with how small the phone felt. That was always a gripe of mine on the 8525 and the tilt...it never fit well in the pocket. I was shocked at how small this phone is.

..The wait continues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
more confusion, lol

Well, I half jokingly asked my wife to hit up a corp ATT store for info today while she was out blowing her husband's paycheck. :)

She called my bluff.

According to the rep, she was the "3rd person to ask about this phone today" and that the Fuze will be out "either October 31st or November 11th as all of their new phones will be out on or by 11/11..." any Incubus fans out there? ;)

Grain of salt...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
I'm glad I bought off eBay when I did. I'm not nearly patient enough to handle AT&T's lack of information!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
I hate getting excited for something that may not be true :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g2tl:
I think most of us here aren't patient enough, yet can't imagine paying more than $300AR :p

why else would we come back to the thread that leads to more confusion and false hopes?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
Im not your brahh, sorry you didn't land mugatu's derelict campaign. I deserved that I overlooked the your thread.

Only Dolphins that meant anything where the 72 Dolphins.lol sorry again for jumping the gun.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Zenoran:
the your thread?

hehe.

so is ATT really that great? you guys seem rather loyal. If you're really interested in the phone and diehard wouldn't you have given in and gone to sprint by now?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
1. NO

Let me start off on that one.

Bad Plans. Horrible CS. Retarded reps (except a few). Don't know crap. Phones take forever to launch. Don't really advertise anything BESIDES THAT STUPID IPHONE. Unlimited texting + internet = $40 WTF. HORRIBLE! Gosh. They're such rip offs. I'm only staying cause most of the people my family knows has at&t so we only have 550 minutes for 3 people :P so it works I guess. Texting on one line. $75 for 3 people.

2. Only for the smexy phones :P

3. NEVER. SPRINT IS HORRIBLE! I HATE SPRINT. They have soo many problems. Service is great :P But it's CDMA. I can take my (future) fuze to Europe and pop in a sim card. Oh wait, with the Sprint's TP I can't :rolleyes: