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[XPERIA X1 General] greatestkelvin:
I got my Xperia as well

I got my Xperia today. The body feels solid. But it feels rather thick. I tried loading in some games and applications. In terms of speed it still feels slower than the HTC Advantage despite the bigger RAM. The screen is slightly bigger than the HTC Pro. The device actually looks quite nice. Though the display is quite sharp, it does not come close to my iphone 3g. Do I like it? Well I would probably sell it off after a few days. I have been using Windows mobile for many years. After I made the switch to iphone just a few months ago, I never look back. Iphone is much smarter than Windows mobile. The user experience is better. Music sounds better, movies are better. In fact everything is better. Lets all forget about windows mobile. Oh yes it terms of the panels, it tries to copy what iphone has done. Its still much slower than iphone. Looks wise, it looks like other models of the Sony ericsson phone. In terms of reception, its normal probably because of the metal casing that may cause distortions.
[XPERIA X1 General] xperian:
WTF?

1. why did you get an X1?

2. how can that be, the X1 has like 400% more pixels in a smaller screen. the iPhone screen better looking, okay, but sharper???

3. I "would". Now did you get an X1 or not?

4. What about tasks? Never used them on WM? All your apps? How did you do the switch??

Seems like you didn't actually get an X1 and are just trolling here.
[XPERIA X1 General] Insaneboy:
Yes, screw WinMo...

After all i'm fully content with copy/pasting, not having a crippled beyond recognition bluetooth, video recording, multitasking, MMSs, radio, not a crappy GPS and all those restrictions on an iPhone :p
[XPERIA X1 General] fuzzmo:
Yup I second the Troll alert - lol - kind of an obvious windup!!!! :D
[XPERIA X1 General] asolano895:
I don't know if he's trolling but certainly I'll prefer the Xperia or the Touch Pro over the Iphone any day....And I owned an Iphone !
[XPERIA X1 General] Kloc:
I like to be able to install what I please on my own device and keyboards rule.

Iphone = not for me.
[XPERIA X1 General] greatestkelvin:
xperia

I got it from China. If you want one, I can sell you after 2 weeks time. In fact all the xperia is made there. I want to play with it for awhile first. To answer your question, bluetooth is still as bad on the xperia. On the iphone when a phone call comes in, it actually gives you three labels to choose from, iphone, speaker or bluetooth. With the xperia, its the same old thing as my previous HTC Advantage, there is no choice or options. For those who does not like the iphone is probably because you are not using the latest iphone 3g, its very different from the old iphone 2g. Surfing the web on the go is fun. Its nice but too bad its running on Windows Mobile instead of better ROMs such as Google Android or iphone.
[XPERIA X1 General] greatestkelvin:
on Xperia

By the way, I would like to let you guys know that the screen size is very small. Only slightly bigger than the HTC Touch Pro. Which also makes it quite useless. I cannot view PDF files or word files as its too small. On Excel, I can only get 2 columns. Its quite a pain scrolling left and right. I would suggest waiting for the HTC touch HD.
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
The size isn't what affects how much you can see on the screen, the resolution is. The Touch HD has the same resolution as the Xperia, so you won't be able to see any more, it will just look bigger.
[XPERIA X1 General] pf:
I can't understand why a lot of threads end in the discussion of iPhone is better or touchHD is better ???

Make an own thread but there are always only the same arguments -nothing new to read since month about to compare them :(

It is clear that a 3" screen is smaller than 3,7 and 3,8". Everybody knows before buying ;) But everyone has other wishes. Hardwarekeyboard, weight, small size etc.

I am working with 3" WVGA since a year now (at my Toshiba G900) and it perfectly fits my needs. It must not be bigger for ME. And I am working a lot with text (Softmaker Office is great at this resolution!), but less with internet and need no games.
[XPERIA X1 General] Insaneboy:
Yeah, and you can transfer files by BT from one iPhone to another effortlessly, not to mention A2DP...
[XPERIA X1 General] Kloc:
If microsoft made the hardware and software for a phone it might work out better but since they make software for a broad spectrum of devices its not going to work as seemlessly as something optimized for a single device. So this arguement is the same as arguing mac vs pc.
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
You never look back from iPhone to WinMo, which is why you just bought a Windows Mobile device. Right. And yeah, iPhone totally has a panel interface... Or not? Find me another SE phone that looks just like the Xperia, I'd love to see it.
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
Big 2nd, it's like people asking why WinMo doesn't have an App store. Some Apps are for pocket pc's, others for smartphones, some are for vga, others for qvga, others for wvga... Some support virtual keyboard input, others don't. There are so many differences between models that you can't expect the same thing out of the box, that's why we customize WinMo (which Apple doesn't allow you to do).
[XPERIA X1 General] osmano:
I think X1 is made in Taiwan......not?
[XPERIA X1 General] artesea:
Think I've worked out what he's on about ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/X1-TRIBAND-DU...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
[XPERIA X1 General] pf:
What a good fun :) If I could take one here in Germany to take away, i would buy one just for fun. 3" QVGA ;) 2 SIM cards, 2 batteries -a lot of the description seems to be very funny :)
[XPERIA X1 General] SOS-LA:
OMG !!!! i'll take 2 :D ..

.. he thought that this device is X1 ???!!!!:confused::confused::confused:
[XPERIA X1 General] Insaneboy:
Everything is made in Taiwan these days... :D
[XPERIA X1 General] schizo:
Incorrect.

Do you think only you western capitalist do offshoring, to China? Do you think your eastern colleagues is not doing the same already? With advantages of no barrier of language and culture?
[XPERIA X1 General] schizo:
You've tried Touch HD too? You beat most of us in this game. LoL. Care to share what you didnt like about Touch HD to us, mortals? =D

1. I'd assume SE include MS Voice Command. Go to settings - voice command. Untick any announcement you didn't like there

2. 16GB is very very new (you beat us again!),and currently only produced by Sandisk, mine is 8GB. Maybe you put too many files (songs) under one folder, try separate them in smaller separate folders. Is the music play stop when device turning screen off, or when you press power button?
[XPERIA X1 General] thangbom:
well, October 10 was the first day that Phone House sells this stuff. However, since I am in Uppsala, they said that it will only be available after 2 weeks from now. However, you got a 4GB mini SD for free? That's something that I ought to know, because I am also planning to get 1 as well. ;o)
[XPERIA X1 General] richie523:
video recording question

Up to now I have seen two Xperia-captured videos - the one posted in this thread and one at http://www.areamobile.de/tests/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_X1/teil_II.php ("Film Spree").

They are both in 3GP format and thus have a lot of compression artefacts, while the Xperia is said to also support MPEG-4 and H.264 (the latter only with 15 fps) - cf. http://www.scribd.com/doc/3232847/Sony-Ericsson-XPERIA-X1-White-Paper-Release-3

Could someone please test making a video in MPEG-4 and/or H.264? Thanks!

RichIE
[XPERIA X1 General] greatestkelvin:
no

the xperia is made in China. The OEM manufacturer is Foxconn
[XPERIA X1 General] Wishmaster89:
Not HTC :rolleyes: ?
[XPERIA X1 General] creid:
how many songs do you have in the folder your playing from ?

more than 20-30 can slow things down

better to have lots of folders than just one
[XPERIA X1 General] peter7:
Hi what do you mean by flies ? and what is mobile shell - a tweak ?
[XPERIA X1 General] dinan:
How is the speaker on the phone? My N95's external speakers were great... when I got the touch diamond I was horribly disappointed =(
[XPERIA X1 General] miky7:
Fast?

He means SPB mobile shell version 2.1
[XPERIA X1 General] Kloc:
That's pretty dumb of them to tell us it has 384mb ram then.
[XPERIA X1 General] kchoop:
Magnus Andersson is a moron

all he waffles on about is 'its like a nice suit'

as soon as this phone is finally released SE need to release him
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
Sorry to be an optimist, but you are taking work of someone we've never heard before over a few other representatives. According to forum answers at Xperiancers - and not just by Magnus - the final version is confirmed to have 384 MB RAM. We'll see...
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
I don't know if this is reason enough, but the ROM version on these *supposedly* launched X1's is two months old. To me that says Proto.

However it is good to know that the phone's performance is great with 256 MB too... :D
[XPERIA X1 General] floordust:
But then again, the 'final version' has an IMEI# beginning with 35. So people having the X1 maybe can check this out?

Another view of it can be that it has 384MB but 128MB of it is dedicated to the graphic card but I don't want to be an optimist, not when dealing with SE.

This guy, I belive, has the final version and he says the panel is slow. This may indicate that it don't have the 128MB dedicated RAM. This is just a thought though.
[XPERIA X1 General] Kloc:
From the demos i've seen the panels were pretty fast and the only thing slow was shift to landscape while on the panels screen with is expected with the graphics card has to reload the screen while trying to play an animation.
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
The screen on my X1 is more responsive than both my TP and Diamond
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
I could choose between black and silver - they had both of them and I think the silver one was most beautiful so I took it :)
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
Of course it is not a prototype, they sold thousands of it today in Telia and Phonehouse stores in Sweden, they sold like crazy
[XPERIA X1 General] Jabe:
How does it compare to Touch Pro or Diamond regarding UI speed, battery performance (i guess you'll be able to answer this in few days time), overall feel. I really can't decide between the touch pro and xperia, but would take none in they are both slow.
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
I have the FINAL version and it is 256 MB, they sold in the whole of Sweden today and is the final version - you don´t think that SE would release like 10 000 prototypes to be sold in Sweden and then release a version with more ram to the rest of the world later? :)
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
The panels are not dog slow :) They are just a little bit slower than the rest of the phone. But I don´t like the panels so for me it does not matter :)
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
The battery I can not give you an answer about as you understand :) But the UI speed and rotate screen when using the hardwarekeyboard is better than the TP, I will sell my TP - the X1 feels better for me at least
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
My IMEI starts with 3572 so
[XPERIA X1 General] mlinz:
I don't have an X1, but I think this is really going to come down to user preference and no speed. He answered the overall feel question..and it should be obvious.. the X1 is metal and the TP and Diamond are plastic. X1 is obviously going to feel a lot better all around. Speed wise you can't really compare TF3D vs Panels. Depends on what you want. I'm sure going through other things they will be similar in speed UI wise there really is no comparison since its not the same.

The only comparison you can make between the two in my opinion is the keyboard, which has been stated before the KB on the Touch Pro feels better because the button are different.
[XPERIA X1 General] Jabe:
By the overall feel I meant stuff that can't be written on a specs sheet. I think easycure1974 understood what I meant, but I don't know how to explain it otherwise. I know it depends a lot on user preferences but someone else's opinion is all I have, I am afraid. I don't have a chance apart from buying both (which I do not intend to) to try them out myself.
[XPERIA X1 General] JKingDev:
Congrats on your new phone. I'm jealous. :)

Can you tell us how much free RAM your unit has after a soft reset? Please go to start->settings->system->memory and let us know. It would be great if you could just post a screen shot of that screen. Also, which buttons are customizable? Can you post a screen shot of the button control panel too? Thanks!

How is battery life so far?
[XPERIA X1 General] mattyv:
Multi Color LED illumination

I know this sounds kind of Ghey, but does this still have the multicolor LED illumination. I've always liked that feature from the motorola?
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
In that case, can you check if the 3D chip has 128 MB dedicated to it?

Furthermore, how RAM is free?
[XPERIA X1 General] e-dub:
i had a sanyo that did this and it was such a nice feature.

eric b
[XPERIA X1 General] mattyv:
Motorola V90

That was the pinnacle of multicolor illumination - it was all around the face of the phone.
[XPERIA X1 General] e-dub:
i commend your choice of verbiage :lol:

eric b
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
I have 155 MB free after a soft reset and nothing extra loaded - will post a screen of it later

Only the left and right soft buttons are customizable
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
How could I look up how much memory that is dedicated to 3D chip ?
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
I'm afraid i am pretty much a newbie to Windows Mobile - this will be my first venture into the Windows Mobile world. So hopefully someone else can point that out... :)
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
OK :) I am no newbie but I still have no clue to find out that :) Perhaps I can install Coreplayer and see if it can show such information
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
Good Luck! :)

BTW - did you get a chance to take screenshots or make a video yet?
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
Screenshot fixed now - video later - hard to stop playing with the phone

Resco Photoviewer running and with my Exchanged synced but no other application installed or running

You can add 30 MB extra storage on this - just found that there are 30 MB om movies in the video folder in my documents :) Some Bond movie trailer and som other crap I deleted
[XPERIA X1 General] Kloc:
That's the program/storage memory not RAM or GFX.
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
Please stop playing and do a review... :)

Or play with it in the video... :D
[XPERIA X1 General] JKingDev:
Awesome news on the free RAM! That is plenty. I don't think there really is a way that you can check if it has dedicated VRAM. Someone with good hacking skills might be able to.

Terrible news on the buttons. You mean you cant change the function of the panel and ok buttons? How stupid. Will need to experiment with some button hacking programs like SPB pocket plus, AE button plus, and PQZ.
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
Yes I know that but a screenshot of that was asked for earlier in this thread
[XPERIA X1 General] Keland44:
congrats on the phone my big question is the battery life i really want to see how that 1500 mah lipo will hold on on the windows mobile os

very interested in what your opinion is so i'll definately staying tuned
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
No the only buttons in the button settings are the two softkeys
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
Here are a little video from the phone, bad lighting and so but at least better than most WM phones - but don´t near the quality of my old Nokia N82 :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/152771311/MOV_0001.3gp
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

It is definitely great. and i'll take ur word for it that the lighting wasn't good. It's better than the video quality of most phones i've seen.

The audio was also great...!

Now pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee do a hands-on video/review. :)
[XPERIA X1 General] Insaneboy:
It's like you've had a religious experience :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Keland44:
lol X1 will do that to people
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
lol!

Seeing that the device is available in Sweden has given me some hope. My brother leaves for Dubai on Monday and returns on Friday. I was sure that it won't be available by then, but now there is hope...! :D

I've been saving up since ages. And this will definitely be the first time i'll ever spend such cash on a device or anything for me in one go, so you can imagine my restlessness. :)
[XPERIA X1 General] qpwoeipt:
Thank you very much for the video, considering it is shot inside home, is excellent quality.

A noted that in the beginning it was only recording 10fps, but when you pointed tv, the frame rate got higher up to the 30fps announced, i guess this happened because with lower light conditions the phone should slow frame rate to record viewable image, but with better light available it boosts up recording speed.

At least here SE keep their word and quality is great apparently. Also liked to see a video in day light for example on street with cars moving around to see how good is x1, but for now appears to be the best.:)

Congratulations for your SEX1 :D , and I guess I'm waiting for getting one also :D
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
Wasn't the "more RAM" factor a huge arguing point for the Xperia? That's what everyone told me. My Fuze said 212MB available RAM, this says 200. :|
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
There is still speculation on this as SE blogs are still claiming 384 MB RAM... people are now thinking that 128 is dedicated for hte 3d chip... so it is still a + point.

And anyways... RAM wasn't the only factor in favor of Xperia.
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
Well, the person I quoted said "Awesome news on the free RAM!"... I kinda thought it was awful news. As for memory put to graphics use, that's 100% speculation.
[XPERIA X1 General] msalmank:
At this moment, everything is pretty much a speculation, unless we come across a full detailed specification sheet by SE.

Furthermore, 212 free on TP is bad than 200 free on Xperia. TP has more RAM than Xperia - Given that Xperia does have 256, TP has 32 MB More RAM... so a diff of 12 MB still puts Xperia over TP.

Besides, Xperia's Panels will definitely take more RAM than TF3D as they are 9 apps running side by side or something like that.

Furthermroe - 256 MB RAM in total... with panels and all running, 200 MB free pretty much indicate that the 3D chip has dedicated memory to it. (IMO)

As now Xperia unboxing is being posted, we'll see videos and fully detailed reviews in the next few days. So let's wait and see.

Best Regards.

Salman Khalid.
[XPERIA X1 General] Kloc:
I trust no one. I will wait till I see it with my own eyes!
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
lol @ "12 MB more ram puts the Xperia above"... No, it puts it only 12 below instead of 32 below, and this was on my Fuze so I can't guarantee what the European versions show. 2nd, wouldn't that also indicate the Fuze's 3D chip has dedicated memory to it? (288MB RAM, 212 available?) And yes, this was my problem with the Xperia, you're absolutely right when you say "the Panel interface will take more RAM than TF3D"... The problem is, there isn't more RAM to be taken.
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
That's the way to go, if you believe everything on these forums the Xperia will have penta-band UMTS 850/900/1700/1900/2100 and 384MB of RAM.
[XPERIA X1 General] romancer:
cong. on your X1 :)

am still concerned about the RAM because at xperiancers.com they assured that the RAM will be 384MB and i agree with the guys expecting that there will be dedicated MB's for the graphics

check out the following link (about 384MB in X1)

http://xperiancers.com/2008/09/26/your-xperia-questions-answered/
[XPERIA X1 General] xmoo:
128 mb for grafix :O WTF
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
That seems a bit excessive, and I refuse to believe the person who has the Xperia would say the panels were "slow" even with 384MB of ram. 128 to graphics and 256 to system memory should be more than enough to handle the panel interface, I would think.
[XPERIA X1 General] romancer:
nothing is confirmed till now even SE they are not clear i don't know why ..

i still have a doubt about the RAM !!
[XPERIA X1 General] Black93300ZX:
Dude... Listen. This man, has an Xperia, in his hands. He says it shows 200MB available of RAM. There's NO WAY.

NO

WAY

that it has 384. Yes, his is the release version.
[XPERIA X1 General] romancer:
ok i agree with you BUT we should invstigate mroe about the grafix dedicated MB's ... <---- this is what i meant
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
I shall take a walk outisde today and I can shot some outside videos - but it is a very rainy and grey day here so it might not bet that much better than the inside video :)
[XPERIA X1 General] easycure1974:
I think that 150 MB free is more than enough and as I said - the panels aren´t dogslow :) I don´t like the TF3D on the TP either because it is just eyecandy and to slow sometimes and not very nice to use :) I prefer Mobile Shell - not that good looking but it makes the device userfriendly. And the free Mobile Shell panel are as good as the full Mobile Shell bought from SPB.
[XPERIA X1 General] stesa:
guys... I prefear to believe you are joking about the RAM cos vith just 50 Mb of free RAM you can move the world !!

150 Mb are not good enough for you ??? STOP JOKING PLEASE !!!
[XPERIA X1 General] ferraripassion:
They said 128 MB goes for Video Ram.
[XPERIA X1 General] norti:
The panels are only thumbnails, not real multitask running programs. That's why the panel changing takes more time (remember the videos with slowly appearing icons on WM today screen panels?). The X-panel is a launch interface not 9 "live" desktops. It updates only if you switch to them. Though the programs launched by the panels can be running in the background.
[XPERIA X1 General] floordust:
I just played with the X1 and yes the panels were a bit slow. Now I also had a copule of programs runnings but still, a dedication of 128Mb (which I DON'T believe) shouldn't make it that slow. Also, switching to landscape wasn't "super fast" (with a couple of programs running in the back). In some occasions half of the screen froze a second or so when switching mode.

I can however live with the fact of it being a little slow, all of my previous phones (TyTN, TyTN II, Diamond etc.) were also slow and even slower BUT the thing that annoyed me was the lack of directional keys on the keyboard. You have to use the front hardware keys to navigate up, down, left and right which I find kind of plastic and cheap (kinda like the Diamond) and don't fit in with the rest of the phone which is very great built in metallic and plastic.

My previeous TyTN II had a better keyboard indeed but the X1 wasn't that bad at all, I mean it just takes a bit time to get used to. However, there was one thing that struck me. The first row of keys is placed too close to the top. Don't know how to explain this but if you remember the TyTN (aka Hermes) you know that the two top keys (left and right) on the keyboard was placed too high up making it to hard to press. You kinda had to use your nail to reach them. The WHOLE first line of keys on the X1 almost felt that way. My thumb always nudged the top edge when pressing the the first line of keys. So if you do have big thumbs and no nails then you better try out the X1 with real typing before buying it.

I also diden't like the panels, pretty useful for an experienced user like me. I think the panels will attract the beginners.

That was my first impression of the phone. Just one last thing, the phone do look sexy!
[XPERIA X1 General] Jabe:
@easycure1974

Is xperia good at picking up and keeping 3g signal? touch pro seems to have some problems with that.