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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah no one's going to get iPhone 13 Pro Max SOT numbers unless they have an iPhone 13 Pro Max. All tests, whether benchmarks or "real world", have shown the 6 Pro can be very good but even the S21 Ultra can get more and the 13 Pro Max is just at another level. The most I've seen a 6 Pro user share is that one 13+ hours of SOT a few replies ago but what kind of usage is that really?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
Defining good battery life is like defining the best pizza topping. (jalapenos of course :p )

Coming from the Pixel 5 which never needed charged until going to bed after starting the day at 100%, I haven't thought of the 6 Pro as a battery hog. Of course, I've only had if for a few days and just rooted it Sunday.

As mentioned; GPS, BT, wi-fi scanning, background connectivity, gaming, video, screen brightness, navigation, signal strength, personal use, etc. all greatly affect batt life.

If you can make it most of the day on a single charge with the way you use your device, battery is probably good enough.

Back in the day, I used to be that guy who would underclock the CPUs and gpu, run 40% brightness, turned everything off in the background, Greenified everything, used dark wallpaper just to get an extra 15 minutes of SOT in a single charge.

Now, if my battery gets low from heavy use, I just plug my phone into one of the outlets I am constantly surrounded by every hour of my life :D
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Izy:
yeah just drained 31% battery with 3 hours 26min screen on majority of that was installing apps/uninstalling apps and repeating that constantly on play store

cause i just got a mi band 6 and trying to set ot up with custom apks that sync to strava etc
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Hard to say for sure but I'll test again today, but since the software update that was pushed yesterday, things seem to be holding up well. With phone being idle most of 21hrs yesterday, from 85% to 36 upon waking, looks decent and I didn't feel battery was draining too much from light usage.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
I am seeing greater battery drain since the update yesterday.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Are you using a battery monitor app? Booting into safe mode can help disable some apps to see if it's anything 3rd party related
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Opensystem:
@RetroTech07 , word to the wise - if you screen shot certain apps w this phone, when the picture pops up in the bottom left there's an option to "capture more" that lets you crop multiple pics worth of space so you can post one big picture instead of multiples.

Thought you'd like to know, I only discovered it a couple days ago
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I know it exists lol but sometimes I post separate pics for a reason 😛
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] jimv1983:
I've noticed with my Pixel 5 and even my Pixel 2 XL that I had before that sometimes the battery life indicator won't report accurately. Restarting will update and get a true battery percentage. It will then be accurate the rest of the charge. I'm curious what the battery would show if you restarted after a few hours.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] jimv1983:
That's likely because it's using a Samsung Exynos modem which are well know to suck power. That's one of the big downsides of having an Exynos based processor.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] jimv1983:
Wow, the stand by drain on your Pixel 2 XL was really high. Maybe that was after it was a few years old? When my Pixel 2 XL was new I was getting like 0.33% per hour stand by drain.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] jimv1983:
Pixel 5 battery life incredible? You and I have had very different experiences. For me it's been just ok at best. On wifi, brightness at 50%, dark mode on, just light stuff like browsing and I get like 8 hours screen on time over like 18 hours off the charger. That's good but that's the best. Start doing things that take more power and it drops FAST. Do the same stuff on mobile data and it drops REALLY FAST.

Streaming Netflix on wifi at 50% brightness using Bluetooth headphones on wifi drains 14% per hour. Doing the same on LTE drains 25% per hour.

Also, stand by drain isn't that good. It's about 0.75% per hour on wifi. That doubles to 1.5% per hour on LTE.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] AznImport88:
So I think I figured out the cause of battery drain and excessive heating issues.

Like many of you, I've been experiencing horrible battery with around 4.5 hour screen on time per charge and crazy overheating. This was solved by conducting a factory reset and and NOT transfering over/restoring data from a previous phone when your Pixel 6/ 6 Pro prompts you though the initial set up.

I've conducted a factory reset without transfering data and my battery life has doubled. I am also not getting a super hot phone just from light usage anymore - this is exactly what I expected the first time around after owning a Pixel 5, which I thought was a battery beast. Very happy with this phone now!!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I've read reports of a factory reset being successful, but if that's a fair solution it doesn't make sense as to what's causing the drain in the first place.

I'm not sure if doing so will help my idle standby drainage being about 1-2% an hour from what AccuBattery says, but I just want mobile network standby to go away lol
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
It's nice to hear that your problems are now gone .

Keep in mind, that the Pixel 6 can't have a battery life as good as the P5 - it's simply a question of Pixel density, Brightness & processor wattage need. The P5 is a lower midrange budget phone and the processor is weak, whilst the P6 is a highend flagship with a barely bigger battery, with a lot more processing power & that gets significantly brighter and has more Pixels to push (if you think about the PPI). So that's a comparison that will of course always disappoint. Especially since Tensor is not the most energy-efficient processor out there.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Yes, that is the current idle drain . So after however many years it's been, that's a pretty good idle drain. It's still being used every day.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ggrant3876:
The P6P idle drain is negligible, took it of the charger at 9AM yesterday used it several times, checked emails and social media while waiting at the hospital and at 1PM still says 100%. Even when I'm on it quite a bit it's a battery sipper. The only thing I've added to it was Nap Time by Francisco Franco with a couple of adb commands.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
9am to 1pm and still at 100%? Screenshots or it didn't happen. 😆
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ggrant3876:
Next time I do full charge I'll post screenshots in this thread.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
I had the exact same results. Coming from a 4XL, I hated the phone until I did a factory reset and did not transfer my old data.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
I installed the 14mb update two days ago. Yesterday I was out and about with less wifi access than usual, maybe half a day on 4G and 5G. Listened to a couple of Youtube videos for maybe an hour (screen off) and took maybe a dozen shots. A few calls and a few texts, but nothing unusual.

By the time I plugged in the P6P was in single digits :( This is a major US city with good 5G coverage.

I haven't had a phone that barely made it through the day since the Pixel 3XL and the battery was the reason I got rid of it.

The P6P is good overall, but I got it for 5G and did not expect the battery to drop so rapidly.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
We probably use our devices very differently than each other.

Compared to my previous two devices (Nexus 6P and Pixel 2 XL), the pixel 5 's SOT was far superior to them both.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
I am on the fence about returning the P6P still, now mostly based on battery life. Trying to convince myself that Google will improve it through updates, but it seems unlikely. The iPhone 13 Max seems to last so much longer, that it may make a big difference when traveling or hiking.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Nothing lasts as long as the 13 Pro Max. If I was really worried about going out for an extended period, like a day at a theme park or something, I would have a battery bank on me. Other than that, topping off in the car during a drive will do me just fine.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Just return it, youre not going to be happy.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
LOL. Just the push I needed :D

On the line with the rep. I feel sad, but I know I'd never be really happy with it :(
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I hope you're not convincing the user to return the device for your own sake lol. I will say that, as another user stated, nothing lasts as long as an iPhone 13 pro max. That's in a leave of its own, and even Apple had had devices where battery life wasn't the best.

I charged my phone to 90% yesterday at 2:20 PM and it was barely used as I was working. 24hrs later and I'm at 45% with minimal use and just under 4hrs SoT. I'm certain I could get another 5hrs which is on par with what the app says I'd get and it'd put me at 9hrs for SoT. That's not terrible at all.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Nope, just sick of people moaning about the phone. If they aren't happy now they never will be. Just return it and move on
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
That's some good %/h times. 👍🏼
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I get that, it does get old reading expectations and their POV on things that don't line up with reality.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
Huh? This is a thread about battery life.

The reality is that the Pixel 6 Pro has poor battery life compared to the industry average. That's a fact that's affirmed by most reviewers that test it. If I were considering it now, I would like to know diverse opinions, not excited accolades from people who are coming to it from 3-year old phones and are happy that it lasts a day.

I missed my window to return it by a day. I'll take a hit on it, I guess.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Thank you for pointing out the obvious. 🙄

It's apparent everyone has mixed results in terms of battery life, and what those folks are doing on their devices, or if they have a bad unit is anyone's guess.

From the research I've gathered, there is a potential bug in the stable release in A12 that can cause battery drain, as it was present in the beta release but never fully addressed. Google has acknowledged it through their bug tracker and are actively looking into it.

Google Issue Tracker

issuetracker.google.com

People also complained about FPS not working properly on the new P6/Pro, and it was addressed in a SW update.

I've heard other non-google phones in the past on release having crap battery life, but as time went on, SW pushes resolved those issues. Just because something sucks now doesn't mean it can't get better.

I understand as technology evolves so should our usage with phones, but if someone that comes to a new phone after 3 years and says it's fine for them, why is their opinion any less valid than someone who upgrades to a new phone often? Maybe they're just not a heavy user or can't afford a new device regularly and they're satisfied for what they're getting?

I got about 8hrs SoT today with less than a full charge from over 24hrs ago. Of course I'd love to have something last as long as Apple, but they're in a different league and I can't stand their OS anymore.

You can call my results "poor battery life" if you will, but I think everyone is becoming spoiled at this point and expecting they should be able to use their device non-stop which is unhealthy. Soon we'll expect a phone to be used with over 24hrs SoT and anything less will be garbage.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
While batt life is subjective, and every user uses their device differently, the real "best batt life" is the battery life you need your device to provide.

My battery life is more than good enough for my normal daily usage.

This isn't even trying to get batt life. Back in the day I'd have underclocked cpu and gpu, turned screen brightness to 45%, greenified EVERYTHING, kept BT off, GPS minimal, dark lock screen and home screen backgrounds, and a bunch of other mods to squeeze another 30 minutes SOT from my devices.

My setup now?

Factory image, root, Despair kernel, BT always on, GPS always on, screen adaptive brightness, nothing greenified, nothing underclocked, pretty bright lock and home screens.

Basically, nothing to help get better batt life :p
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
What battery app do you use, and what's the idea behind custom kernels? I've only been rooting for the latter part of this year and never got into what a custom kernel can do.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Define "industry average".
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Az Biker:
It's the battery monitor from Elemental X Kernel Manager (EXKM) ...

Custom kernels and a kernel manager allows you to manipulate several settings. CPU clusters (overclock/underclock) same for GPU, wakelocks, I/O properties/manager, colors, etc.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] m1ckbr1t:
I've no complaints, this was in the 2nd week or so with .36 update. 5g enabled, data permanently on for faster switching, forced screen refresh to max, accounts syncing, smart watch connected, AOD on, pretty much everything I use on. Now on .37 update and hopefully the battery will get even better. I do have adaptive battery turned on with adaptive charging.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Corruption Inc:
I can kind of second this. Initially I moved data from my Note10+. And for the first week I had the P6P I wasn't very happy about the battery life. After backing up everything to Google One, I factory reset my phone and loaded the backup from Google One.

I'm not sure if it's the factory reset and not transferring data from an old phone, or if it's just the factory reset after the 2 updates. But either way, my battery life has improved.

Edit: Spelling
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Wouldn't restoring from backup defeat the purpose of doing a full wipe? Restoring data from a backup is pointless IMO, since so many apps don't restore data or active logins. It should be mandatory this kinda stuff is included in backups the way Apple does, but not every developer allows data to be backed up unless you root and save it manually.

I also think it's silly I have to wait for every app to re-download itself one at a time. I've always preferred Apple backup and restore to Android.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] achapman91:
I have been unplugging after reaching 80% battery life as it was recommended to extend the lifetime of my battery. This is my average.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
Seriously?! Why bother responding?

Something better than the 7h53m the P6P tests at... It's likely partially due to the poor 5G modem, according to the article below.

"Surprisingly, the Pixel 6 Pro turned in an even worse 7 hours and 53 minutes on our battery test, despite having a larger 5,000 mAh battery. In adaptive mode the Pixel 6 Pro lasted 7:46 or about the same time.

By comparison, the iPhone 13 lasted 10 hours and 33 minutes on our web surfing test and the iPhone 13 Pro Max hit 12:16. The Samsung Galaxy S21 endured for 9:53 and the Galaxy S21 Ultra endured for 11:25. Last but not least, the OnePlus 9 Pro lasted an excellent 12:48."

Google Pixel 6 battery life tested — we have bad news

The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro last hours less than the competition

www.tomsguide.com
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] andrea.ippo:
That's just because all ROMs cheat and show a slower discharge when starting from 100%.

Try repeating this experiment when your battery level is at 40%, I'm sure you'll end with something like 37 or 38%...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] andrea.ippo:
Is anybody else seeing high values for WAKELOCKS under the system battery stats?

Along with high WiFi values.

Seems to appear only overnight tho, which makes me think it's showing up because it's the only thing going on during night hours (which could indicate well behaved apps).

Even a previous investigation with battery historian showed quite some wakelock activity by WiFi related stuff (IpReachabilityMonitor).

Also, the Google app always showing 2 hours usage in every 2 hour segment is a bit suspect, but maybe normal?

My standby drain is 1.0% BTW (everything on except AOD).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ggrant3876:
When it got to 42% I put it down for 3 1/2 hours just to see and with WiFi on too it had only dropped 1%.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] andrea.ippo:
Ok, well than that's impressive, lucky you!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
No idea what those people over at tomsguide have smoked, but it's not surprising at all that the P6 Pro comes in short (compared to the p6 non pro, since)

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4614 (p6) vs 5003 (p6 pro) mAh only means a 7.8% difference ("advantage") in battery size, but the screen​

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2400 by 1080 pixels (p6) = 2592000 pixels​

3,120 by 1,440 pixels (p6 pro) = 4492800 pixels​

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means a reduction of ~ 42.5 % in pixels in favor of the Pixel 6 non pro, that's a s*itload of pixels that do not need to be fired on. Add less refresh rate & lower screen brightness on top of that and there's a clear winner, by simple mathematics. By about 50%.​

The IPhone 13 Pro Max has 2778 x 1284 pixels = 3566952. That's about 21% less pixels that need to be fired on (compared to the P6 Pro). Even though it needs to be said that the IPhone has a smaller battery (5003 mAh vs 4352 mAh, meaning a reduction of roughly 13%) and has clearly the more efficient processor. So in fairness sake, you have to reduce the battery time number of the IPhone 13 Pro Max by about 8% so you can make a "fair" comparison to the Pixel 6 Pro. Even in that case, of course, the Iphone will come out on top, simply because the A15 is a glorious piece of tech and I hope that Google can come close to creating processors that efficient for the Android sector in a year or two.

So it would surprise the heck out of me if the P6 Pro could come out on top in a battery test, considering that it needs to fire "nearly" 1 1/2 the pixel numbers despite ONLY having a 8% bigger battery. A comparison almost doesn't make sense, since there's THAT big of a difference in hardware. But I'm not surprised that "tech" article sites do not point this out. They just don't care, or notice. They compare apples vs bananas all day long.

The only advantage that the P6 Pro (in theory) has is it's adaptive refresh rate, but since that's broken/not in proper use (10 hz, 24 hz, 30 hz, whatever like the IPhone 13 uses proplerly), that's not helpful - at least as of now. Google will probably finetune this, but that's not the reality right now.

So coming in JUST 20 minutes short of the P6 is actually quite impressive, even though the "total" number compared to OTHER brands is not good enough. But since it's common knowledge that Tensor is just not an efficient processor, that doesn't surprise me.

For me personally, the P6 Pro can last longer than my P4 XL, so I'm fine with it. Even though other people that are used to 2 day battery life (other brands) might be disappointed that the P6 Pro can "just" survive 1 day.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
I asked because it depends on who you're going by.

Battery Test | PhoneBuff

The official PhoneBuffStyle smartphone battery test rankings.

www.phonebuff.com

The 6 Pro isn't as terrible as Tom's Guide with a 8h 48m and the S21 Ultra and 9 Pro aren't as amazing with 9h 28m and 9h 15m respectively. Yes it's below them but I wouldn't say that's poor. The iPhone 13 Pro Max is still in a tier above everyone else still getting 12h 6m.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I don't think that anyone with a functioning brain stem calls the Pixel 6 Pros battery life terrible.

It's a phone advertised as a 1-day-battery-life giver and thats exactly what it offers, it survives a full day with ~5-9 hours of SoT (depends heavily on usage).

The P6 Pros problem lies outside Googles own sphere. It simply sucks in comparison to other brands that offer a longer battery life with their flagships. But that still doesn't make Googles offer terrible, it just loses the comparison.

Personally, I'm disappointed by the fact that Tensor uses 2 year old cores and those could have easily improved the SoT by an hour or two if Google would have changed them out, plus the panel is an older one that is not quite as efficient as other offerings; but I guess we'll have to wait until next year to get a more efficient processor.

It should also be noted, of course, that this is Googles first attempt at creating something "unique" and considering that AND the fact that the phone can run several background processes without draining the battery life terribly (adaptive sound, Always-on-display, on-device-translate & analysis (LENS), now playing...) AND it doesn't need to kill of most apps in the background (https://dontkillmyapp.com/ is your friend here), it's not impressive, but decent. It's a decent battery life experience, and I'm ok with that, but others that expect "muh mega battery ULTRA TENSOR want 4 days usage Google ADs have AWOKEN MY NEED FOR LE FUTURE" will get disappointed.

Pixels were never battery life kings, and still are not. So of course people that come in here with their battery-life maxing Huawei/Samsung/backgroundkilling champs will voice their disappointment. Even though that's not a "real" problem, it's simply apples vs bananas all over again.

Always make sure you know what a device can offer and can't before you buy it.

It also helps the environment, since you don't have to send so much stuff back. But I guess people who buy 2 or 3 phones a year don't care about the environment anyway...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah Google definitely made cuts which add up to a lower price than the competition (Original price) yet the 6 Pro the most premium phone they've released. It's not the best in any single category. It doesn't have the brightest screen, fastest processor, fingerprint sensor, or charging, longest battery, longest zoom, etc. but it does well to very good as a whole.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
That sums up Pixels in total, since their creation.

Pixels never excelled in any category (except maybe stillshots), but overall they offer a decent experience without much hassle, bloatware or finetuning. They just work out of the box, just like an IPhone - that's also about Apples biggest argument "you don't need knowledge, or skill, or whatever - just go buy it and have fun". You don't need to spend time in settings "how do I make this app work since my phone kills of background stuff?" or "how do I get GCam to have a good camera?". Pixels just work.

At least, Pixels should. Android 12 is a broken mess and does bring down the P6 "enjoyment", which is a shame. Google should have shipped out the P6 with A11 and then first fixed A12 problems and then rolled it out.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah I've been doing Android betas every year since 2016 and Android 12 has for sure had the most bugs I've encountered during the beta and now public release. For me it can still be a daily driver but they gotta squash the common bugs the next monthly or the first two.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] andrea.ippo:
Well, there's definitely something wrong with the Google app in those screenshots I posted earlier.

Tonight it slept like a baby, no Google app showing app for 2 hours in every 2 hour time frame, and no huge WAKELOCK duration in the stats neither.

The result was .6%/h and a discharge of 5% between 10PM and 6AM (again, everything on except for AOD, on Wifi at home).

I think that with a few Google apps and firmware updates, this thing has got even more potential.

Overall I'm satisfied with the battery, although I still haven't had a chance to see how it behaves during longer periods on 4G/5G.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] joshnichols189:
Did you clear app data/disable the google app or anything? I noticed mine drains fine on standby during the day, but while I'm sleeping it drains a ****ton, even in battery saver/extreme battery saver. I haven't spent too much time looking into it yet, but was beginning to start my investigation