yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] seandpa:
I tried @harvey186 but had same effect, no video or sound, tried on both iceraven and bromite,. When using iceraven on lineage-19 gsi streaming worked. I was eager to try LeOS on my tablet but my tablet is what I use for the sports streaming away from the TV :-(
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
OK, go to Settings/Security and disable DNS content blocker. But you should then install Shelter and run this spying app in work profile and you should use in both profiles TrackerControl
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] seandpa:
I will give that a go tomorrow if I can, its Monday evening here now. I will give some feedback how I get on though
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] NisseGurra:
Download link i 1st post is dead, any other place?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] seandpa:
Reinstalled LeOS and disabled DNS content blocker and have sports streaming, thanks for the guidance @harvey186
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Thx, have updated links on first page

LeOS-Cloud: https://leos-cloud.de/s/JFrFgLgSSTEMtmL /

Proton_drive: https://drive.proton.me/urls/JF352AYSS4#YkXliW8T03Cp

(ProtonDrive needs a bit before download list is showing)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] veloc_h:
the link is dead
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
thx, use this one https://gitlab.com/leos1/leos-wiki/...Android-10-and-above-(with-dynamic-partition)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Sorry, I really don't understand. You have to be in bootloader / download mode, running 'fastboot reboot fastboot'. So the device will reboot into fastbootd.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] tellko53:
What do you mean by this? If I were to use a vanilla gsi from github for example,

Spoiler content hidden.

is there some google left inside? Can you please tell me what it is?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Yes, AOSP vanilla has only no gapps included. All other google calls, like CaptivePortal login or a-gps server are still available. There are several other google, especially if you install MicroG. MicroG will activate several connections to google.

And all these additional google calls are removed in LeOSand LeOS has his own special MicroG without google calls
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] tellko53:
Where does LeOS MicroG connect to then?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
The LeOS MicroG is only a nut in shell. It connects to none Server. It's only available for apps which are nerding a GmsCore. Without they will shoe a message that play service is missing. For example, ProtonMail is doing that. But with LeOS MicroG, no message :)

MicroG is for example permanent to google push server. With this connection, google knows who you are and where you are, because your device has gotten a unique device registration Id

If you add a google account in MicroG Google your privacy is gone.

SaftyNet is the same spying tool. With it Google will know every app you are using.

With all theses data, google can make a great profile of you and will sell it and using for advertisements
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] tellko53:
Sorry, Im a bit confused. Im not planning on logging in with a Google account in microG, nor turn on device registration and safety net, but I do need push notification for sms, mail and a working GPS. So where do these push notifications come from on LeOS if not Google?

I understood the GPS location comes from Mozilla.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
For push messages the device needs registered. With LeOS you wont get push messages from apps which are using google push server.

FOSS apps don't use google push server. Threema, Telegram have own push server and K9 mail client has a poll service.

I'm talking about a-gps supl server. Not about gps location services
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] tellko53:
I see. Thank you for the explanation. K9 mail it is, and I think I can live without sms push.

Right, a-gps is probably what I need when driving. Unless there is another way to get precise on-time directions.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
SMS push has nothing todo with google push server. It will work ALWAYS

No, navigation is using to 99% pur GPS. A-gps is only used if no or bad Satellite signal available. Or indoors.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] tellko53:
Hmm. Thats weird, as I have to unlock my phone to receive sms.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
You mean, your are only getting sms when your screen is on? Sounds your sms app has optimized battery usage. Set it to 'not optimizing'
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] tellko53:
Its set to not optimize by default, same as phone, clock and few others. I'll try looking for a solution by testing different things.

Thank you, your help was much appreciated.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] iAbeefe:
@harvey186

After updating LeOS-20 June udpate, phone is bootlooping until i return back to May update.

i did clean flash also it was the same issue.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Madacam:
harvey186

I'm coming back to you with an interface problem on my galaxy tab a7 lite sm-t225.

The backspace slider on LeOS-20 is not present at the base of my home screen (small width set at 598 dp), which forces me to close applications "in the wild". This is particularly annoying when examining internet hits.

If you have a solution, I'd be grateful.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
1. If you have changed the dp, go back to default value

2. Have you checked / tried the gesture setting or

3. the button settings
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Madacam:
harvey186​

Hello,

I followed your instructions and... everything is back to normal. I've gone back to the default values for the dp: 704; gesture setting: "three-button navigation".

I now have access to the navigation sliders.

Thank you for your responsiveness and, above all, for designing this superb GSI.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
my camera doesn't work, galaxy a6 exynos 7870, cpu ARM32 binder 64, (LeOS-VNDK-a64-bvN). camera disappear after reboot. I flashed vendor a6 android 11 and H-kernel. where should I find a stock vendor for this rom? how should i solve it. it works here in this version. https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases

I tried to install open camera but it doesn't work. the system writes "the application is in use". the system camera turns off after reboot but i can find the app in the system.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
You are using latest LeOS-VNDK-a64-bvN-19.1 ?

You have made a factory reset (it looks that you don't have)?

A GSI is running best with stock firmware. Especially a custom kernel makes often problems.

Only flashing vendor and Kernel is not such good choice. Better flash complete latest OEM firmware.

Have you enabled both camera options in PHH treble settings ?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
thanks for the advice. i have version 19 20230420 a64 bvs. i tried another method. I flashed the stock firmware. i flashed twrp. I formatted the data, did what I usually do. wipe dalvik cache etc...

but the system could not start. I had to flash h-kernel as boot. here is the link.

Releases · samsungexynos7870/android_kernel_samsung_exynos7870

Contribute to samsungexynos7870/android_kernel_samsung_exynos7870 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

otherwise the phone wouldn't boot and booted into odin mode. everything works but the cameras don't. trust/ SElinux off. do i still need to install Permissiver_v5.zip? there must be some mistake. I don't know how to solve it. do i need to install anything else to prevent my phone from rebooting into odin mode? yes, I have both options enabled in the PHH settings
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
if it is booting you don't need permissiver.

and I'm sorry, but I can't support custom kernel issues. I will only support OEM or LOS base
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
thanks a lot. that was a bit my question. if the phone does not boot. something else has to be flashed? samsung is a bit problematic.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Samsung is sh..........t
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harkoai:
I'm not sure why, but SMS stopped working on LTE for me after I flashed your latest January update. Everything was working fine in the December build. Now I have to switch to 3G in order to send/receive text messages.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
I have had this issue often, not when upgrading but in normal use. I never found the issue. Do you have swapped the SMS app from Silence to QKSMS ? Have you tried any other SMS app. could you check with *#*#4636#*#* the Prefered Network type. I'm using it as shown on attached screenshot
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SeventhRaven:
Any chance for an update onto A12 for the LOS build? Your GSI adds just about all the things that I need for an ideal (non-root) ROM, on top of the LOS features.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
No, this is LeOS, full ungoogled GSI. LOS 19 is NOT full ungoogled and overloaded with features. So you must decide what you really want: googlefree or a lot of options which only a handful are needing.

What are you missing on LeOS-S ??
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SeventhRaven:
What Google features does it include that AOSP doesn't? Vanilla LOS 19.x GSI seemed pretty clean to me, although I don't know about the inner workings, just what I can see.

Tbh I mostly just want microg, aurora services and the f-droid priv extension as system apps in LOS, but dunno how to do that (without root, that is). As for features, LeOS-S is missing all what AOSP is missing as well. Various LOS features, such as the volume buttons for track control, hold for torch, the integrated firewall, removing the gesture hint and much more. I tried it at first, but had to mod so much with magisk (and I am trying to go rootless now, so certain apps work).
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Ah, that are all the overloaded features only a handful people needing. I live a small, fast and clean OS with no unwanted tracking and unwanted internet connections to big brother servers. That's more important for me and the other LeOS users.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SeventhRaven:
I terms of performance and battery life, they don't seem to differ to me. And LeOS-R seems to offer most, if not all, of the LOS features as well, except that it's not A12, so I don't know why it's an issue now. hmm

Well, if you have no interest in updating that particular one, could you at least let me know how to add system apps to the system.img? I don't mind applying that myself, just need to know how to do that. Can't seem to find anything good regarding that.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
'Old' LeOS versions are based on LOS. Actual version us always based on AOSP.

you can add apk's to the image if you are building a GSI.

But what is the benefit of putting apks on /system?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SeventhRaven:
So no chance we can get a LeOS based on the LOS 19.x GSI that's based on the same AOSP you're using now? 🤔

And the benefit are the apps I mentioned. Aurora services and F-Droid privileged for painless update process. And I guess allowing spoofing for microG, so some apps don't complain because they cant' find the "google services". I cannot do this without root (which, again, I am trying to avoid for reasons) and I have no idea how to make an image myself. I am glad I finally managed to run the securize script on LOS.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
By the way, LeOS has both services included and with LeOS Launcher you can create a Gesture to open torch. And I think for the other missing things are also 'workarounds' available 😃

Sure, signature spoofing wont work on LOS nor on LeOS. Therefore are some critical files/setup needed which will never be on ungoogled Android like LeOS.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SeventhRaven:
Most workarounds need root, especially the gesture hint (I really hate this little line at the bottom). I suppose I gotta compromise somewhere.

And wdym signature spoofing won't work? The signature spoofing for microG works on both LOS and LeOS, if microG is installed as a system app/priv app. I already tried that. So apps will think it's the genuine google services.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
I'm sorry, but it seems you don't know how signature spoofing is working.

But anyway, We have different views and that's OK. What you want, LeOS will never have. So have fun with LOS and we, privacy focused users, will enjoy LeOS.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SeventhRaven:
While I can't say I know the details of the mechanics, I do think you don't know either. You built the GSI but you don't know what you built...weird. Again, it, in fact, does work if microG is installed as system app. It's doing exactly even with your LeOS-S version. It's spoofing its signature to make apps think that it's the genuine thing.

And I have no idea who you are referring to when you say "we, privacy focused users". That sounds a little elitist. How am I suddenly not privacy focused because you claim there's some Google components inside LOS 19, even though you cannot tell me which?

Also, since this has been bothering me from the beginning...why is your post mostly a carbon copy of PPH's post, but you linked a different treble check app (which, according to the playstore, includes in-app purchases)? He stated "Don't use other Treble Check apps" yet you're linking a different one? Odd.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Really good choke. LeOS has his own MicroG included. But it's a LeOS-MicroG version where you never will be able to use signature spoofing.

I thank that's the best evidence that you don't know LeOS.

It has nothing to do where MicroG is installed. On phh AOSP builds it you must install it in userspace otherwise it wont work.

Next evidence that you also not know Phh AOSP.

The treble info app is in paystore available. Yes. That's OK, you can access playstore apps anonyms. So what's wrong on it? ?

If you think I have bothering you, I'm sorry. I'm sounds sometimes bad, but I really don't like it when someone posts things he really don't know about.

But I will close the discussion now, because it's totally off topic. Here is a place to help users running LeOS and being a part of the googlefree users.

Thx for visiting this threat and bye.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Mod Edit: Quote removed since post removed. This post also edited to remove some unnecessary content.

OK, I have to apologize. I'm very sorry, I must have had a bad day yesterday and only hot air in my head.

You were talking about Signature Spoofing all the time and I was talking about SaftyNet. Stupid.

You're absolutely right, of course. On appropriately patched systems like LOS or LeOS, signature spoofing works.

I still don't agree with you about the /system/priv-app, but it doesn't matter now.

So again, sorry and I hope we can now close this bad discussion

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Mod Edit: Some unnecessary content removed.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] TNSMANI:
MOD ACTION:

Thread cleaned.

While arguments are good, it is to be ensured that the language doesn't deteriorate, which it did in a couple of posts. Please read and follow Rule 2.

I presume that the issue is now settled and we can concentrate on the purpose of the thread.

Thank you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Patxperia:
I have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 9s (system-arm64-ab.img.xz currently at miui 12.5.3. Your deGoogled rom looks very useful, as it is configured for the apps I want to use.

I see phhusson has a vendor_hardware_overlay/Xiaomi/RedmiNote9Pro/

Creating a rom is beyond my skills, but I would pay for a ROM if it can be put together from the work already done.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Yeah LeOS should work fine on your device. If you need some help or further information, best you join my telegram group
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Slaggy:
micro-g supposedly fully works but google apps won't work? what about youtube and google photos?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
It's a special MicroG version where you can't add a g'**gle account or register your device. For youtube you can use NewPipe from f-droid. Google photos wont work.

LeOS is designed for users which don't want share personal data with g**gle
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
sorry, but the error is in the ROM, because PHH and ANDYYANS roms also works with the camera. So logically it seems to me that the problem is not in the kernel.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
sorry wrong. PHH's GSI is very old. In the meantime a lot o changes are done in sources. If Andy's actual LOS19 GSI is working, LeOS-19 MUST also working, because t is based on same sources
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
I tried both the same versions in LEOS 19 camera does not work and LOS19 works. i download all aplications from your drive and camera is missing. calendar is not working, when i download it and install it from your drive. i cant see camera apk in my system?!I can't find the system app.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Andy's light or TD version ?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
man version lineage-19.x is not light or TD vesion. i have the same software versions and i do the same steps but my camera apk disappears in your software. i ask why. lineage-19.1-20230611-UNOFFICIAL-a64_bvN-vndklite.img your version is LeOS-VNDKLITE-a64-bvN-19.1.img. so the software is not identical even though it should be. maybe there is a mistake...
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
OH yeah, sorry. Sure for LOS19 no light/TD version available.

Pls tell me or post for me you camera app. I will test
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
Yes, but the problem is that the camera is pre-installed in the system, when it is the VNDKLITE version, it should be there. I can't find it and I can't turn it off. So it is not possible to install another application. The app then writes that the camera is being used by "another app". in LOS 19 is com.android.camera2. Version 2.0.002 is pre-installed. So in your software, my phone boots without a camera, but the camera should be there. It works in such a way that the software checks the hardware at the first start and there is just that error. It doesn't detect my camera, even though I have it on my device.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
LeOS doesn't have a camera included. I have just installed latest LeOS-19.1 version from June. Attached, you can see, NO Cam included. I have also tested Libre Camera. Also no problem, after activating both camera options in PHH treble settings.

So I'm sorry, I really don't know how I should/could help. The only thing I can say. Try once more with a comnplete fresh install on a clean system. If you have a default camera, there is something wrong
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
OK, I'll activate both options and try it.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
works also fine. And please reread my above post. I have edit it a lot
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
what app should i use? I have both options on and the camera won't start, I used open camera.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
You haven't read my edited post. :(
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
sure
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
You told me that the software is identical and it is not. because LOS 19.1 has a default camera and works. You just took it out of the system to save you work and now it doesn't work. That's the way it is. You saved yourself work and caused me a complication. Because you just did it wrong. The VNDKLITE version must have a camera in the system. these are the rules that are in GSI, you did it your way.....GSI is the exact opposite of, for example, GrapheneOS written only for Pixels, it should work on a universal principle with camera in the system. if you want secure software, you have to use specific hardware with hardware-level security. there is no other way.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
I'm sorry for you that the camera is not working for you. But it is NOT an problem of LeOS, it's a problem of you base or your installation. We have hundreds of happy camera users with LeOS. And , as I have shown you, the Camera is working on leOS-19.1.

I know it is frustrating , but now bashing LeOS and my work is not the right way and I'm sorry that I have wasted so much time trying to help you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
believe it or not you made that mistake. it doesn't matter at all how many people are happy when you make such trivial mistakes that you copy a good LOS rom and make your own holes there. the rule is the less you add the better.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
What ever you think. I'm out.

Last words: seems you never have made a clean flash of LeOS or read the information's on LeOS web page. Otherwise you would known, that LeOS has only 6 essential default apps.

And, removing a default alpp has nothing to do with your problem. A working camera depends on working camera drivers NOT on camera apks.

And last time: LeOS-19.1 is based on LOS-20 with some additional patches but these patcher are relevant for degoogling and have NOTHING to do with camera.

Over and out !
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
6 useless applications, but the default camera is missing. great. you basically tell me that I don't need the system camera preinstalled and then you give me 6 non-system apps, it's not a bit of a contradiction, it reminds me a bit of calyxOS but B-grade.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Pls stop trolling, otherwise I will report it to XDA admins
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
voala LeOS-20-VNDKLITE-a64-bvN.img camera is working. but there was another problem call is not working. there is no sound or I can't hear anything during the call.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
Are you using latest version from 0705-update1 ?

If yes, please try the different audio options in phh treble settings. And make a reboot after any change
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] TechX1991:
This happens to me on the /e/OS and leOS gsi's. can't get calls or texts. I need to try a more recent update of leOS on my 4a
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
I had version 704. I tried to call, the call worked, but the speaker and microphone did not work. I didn't get sound on the LOS20 even with Bluetooth, even though the phone was pairing. so i will try 705 update1
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] harvey186:
If sim is detected, first control APN settings.

Second, use all 4 IMS options in phh treble Settings. Control the ims apk installation.

Third, check networks in phone settings *#*#4636#*#*
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Walterkom:
There is no sound during the call.there is no such possibility.I don't think it's finished for Samsung. PHH he is on holiday. TD13 not for normal use, but for testing
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] TechX1991:
I remember it had nothing to do with the APN, but I'll try the IMS options. Idk if it matters, but could just be a Verizon thing