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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
The Verge isn't the only tech site to point out/praise P6 battery life.

At this point, it's probably a mixture of questions like usecase (did they shoot a lot of videos? 4k60fps drains like crazy), clean phone (did a reviewer copy his old phone with a gazillion apps running in background over?), network availability (if your phone can barely make a connection, the constant searching will drain that battery), display brightness (a reviewer in the UK will naturally get more battery life out of the phone outside, simply because the display doesn't need to get as bright compared with someone in Florida). [...]

The problem can even be as small as a different case - if your case is big a** & sucks and your mobile antenna can't find a connection, it will drain more battery than your friend's phone with another, lighter case - as an extreme scenario. There are a lot of factors and most reviewers don't always replicate the best case.

What's also quite interesting is the question of network type. The old modem in our P6 is known to use more battery with 5G networks, ergo it's possible that the reviews with a "good battery life" result have only used it in 4G covered areas, whilst the other side "muh terrible muh no good" side might have been using it in a 5g area.

I have not yet seen a battery life test with fixed measurement criteria (fixed nits, same network availability, same apps running on the other phones...).What's also quite interesting

Until that happens, I'd take every review about battery life with a grain of salt.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
There are tons of those battery drain tests out already, I've watched 3. I think they try to make all the settings as close as possible, but they try to do it on auto everything since that's how people will use it. Pixel 6 vs Pixel 6 pro vs Iphone 13 pro max vs Galaxy s21 ultra it's dead last. It would be dead last against Oneplus phones as well.

There are never cases on in these tests. They are freshly setup phones and freshly restarted/fully charged, and I'm guessing these were all on wifi.

And again to clarify, I'm not sure that makes it "bad", it's just last in these tests against those phones.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Good to know. I just skipped through the first two Youtube results and according to this

-> "Google Pixel 6 Pro / Pixel 6 vs iPhone 13 Pro Max vs S21 Ultra - Battery Drain Test"

Pixel 6 pro: 8H:10M

Pixel 6: 8H:17M

Iphone 13 Max Pro: 10H:18M

Galaxy S21 Ultra: 8H:33M

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And according to this

Pixel 6 and 6 Pro battery life falls short of Galaxy S21 Ultra, but not by much

The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro come with bigger batteries, but how long do they last in real life? We have run our independent battery tests to find out...

www.phonearena.com

The Pixel 6 outlasts everything, the Pro fails to last longer than only the 13 Pro Max.

Even though in pure browsing, the P6 falls a bit short.

So in the end it's a question of usecase. You watch videos? The Pixel 6 is your king. You want to browse only? Get an Iphone or a Samsung. You want a good phone? Get either one of these.

I wouldn't call that dead last. It's up to par with the latest and greatest in the Android sector, even though Apple has an advantage with their more efficient chip.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
If they compared Oneplus 8 pro and Oneplus 9 pro both getting over 10 hours, it would look worse IMO. Those are obviously the other dev friendly phones left. But yea, they are on par. TBH I don't know why everyone is comparing to the Ultra instead of the S21+. Seems like the ultra is like in another category. It's bothered me about all the reviews so far.

Edit: saw the rest of your post. Those are interesting for sure, but I don't think that kind of linear use is normal at all. Like browsing a webpage for 11 hours. Interesting nonetheless.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
One thing that people should also mention when talking about battery life is

Don’t kill my app!

Hey Android vendors, don’t kill my app!

dontkillmyapp.com

If a phone can last 4 hours longer on a charge (not SoT), but makes my life a mediocre joke by closing all the good stuff, that life sucks.

This "dontkillmyapp" stuff matters little with short-time battery killing tests, but it does count when you take into account everyday usage in aspan of days/weeks/month.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
Funny you say that because Oneplus was def accused of skewing in that direction, but with the 12GB of RAM, my phone is a monster and I can count up to 20 apps still ready to go at any time. Right now at work, not doing much on my phone today, there is 11.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
It's not only about apps running in the background, ready to be used. It's more about the notification system and giving apps that don't even need to be used once (like a weather widget app) the chance/right to constantly call back home to get up to date data. I've seen many people over the years complain about broken app functionality and most of them were customers of certain manufacturers. Even though it's hard to differentiate, because apps tend to get broken in time, with updates, or other software quirks that are not even OS related.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
That does happen when my phone is asleep for sure. I will get a wave of Gmails come in, mostly junk (of course). But you can turn all of that off in settings. I chose to let mine stay on, aside from the root apps that need access all the time.

Regardless though, in real world use I couldn't be more happy with battery life. It's one anxiety I don't need back.

This morning is a good example. 7 hours off the charger now, battery at 82%, 55 mins SoT, listening to podcast audio and music for about 6 out of 7 hours. I'll get to sleep tonight with like 50% batter left and 4 hours of SoT. I don't even have to think about it. And I've had this phone 18 months now. I NEVER use the fast charger though. I use a regular slow charger at night. I've used warp charge prob 10 times total.

That's my baseline.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Well, to be honest here, Google phones were never great battery life kings, especially concerning battery drain when you lit up your display in a high ambient lighting scenario - or making videos.

Up until now, I always rooted my Pixels after some time, used LKT, naptime and servicely and specified which Apps need to function 24/7 and that way got a decent 1 1/2 days of use out of every one.

From the stock experience as of yet (had a P2 XL, P3 and P4 XL) the P6 Pro is probably about ~25-30% longer lasting than my P4 XL, so that's exactly what I was looking for. If you come from a phone manufacturer that is used to shut everything down in the background to squeeze the maximum amount of battery life out of it, you might get disappointment here.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Shipoftheline:
I've gone from the Oneplus 8 Pro to the 6 Pro and so far I'm not happy with the power button (end calls/screen off) being above the volume, I'm constantly turning the volume down because of its dumb position.

Also noticed the signal strength indoors at least isn't as good as the phone I came from
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] dj24:
I'm with you. Reviews are all over the place but my one go to site for battery life reviews is currently still testing both versions. Come on gsmarena.. pick up the pace!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] miravision:
Google Pixel 6 Pro review

Google is officially back. The Google Pixel 6 Pro is leagues ahead of its predecessors in hardware, software, and design with a brand-new set of camera...

www.gsmarena.com
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] dj24:
Yeah I saw that the day it came out. Really disappointed and I'm now looking at the 1Phone 13 Max Pro...Sigh.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Guyinlaca:
After using the phone for 3 days, here are my impressions:

PROS:

+Great build quality

+Better battery life than the Note 20 Ultra

+Great sound quality and bass from speakers

+Camera is impressive compared to the Note 20 Ultra

+Software is fast and fluid

+Have had no issues with heat

+Rootless mods using Fabricated Overlay function

+Call screening and On Hold Assistant are great

+Many great Pixel Exclusive AI features

CONS:

-Signal strength fluctuates more than the Note 20 Ultra. When holding the phone still, it has a similar dB reading, but it's noticeable when moving around in the same home. Note 20 Ultra: -102 to -118 dB. Pixel 6 Pro: -104 to -119 dB. Speed tests show about a 10 Mbps slower speed on the P6P. Wifi range is slightly less as well. This isn't a dealbreaker but might be an issue for people in extreme fringe areas.

-Android 12 is missing a lot of options found on other phones (Especially AOD/Lockscreen customization) and there are occasional bugs.

-Samsung phones feel a bit more premium screen and buttons wise. Maybe I need a more solid case?

-To match the 50% screen brightness I use on Samsungs, the Pixel 6 Pro must be set at 75%. It's still sufficient, but definitely not as bright overall.

Overall, I will say this is definitely a huge leap forward for Pixels, but the $899 price is spot on given the sacrifices they made vs the S21 Ultra. It's a great phone, and ticks the only boxes popular reviewers care about (Camera, Battery Life, and Software Fluidity), but I can't help but feel the S22 Ultra will blow this thing out of the water on the specs and quality.
[HTC Excalibur] blackjack2:
I've had my Excalibur for about two months and I'm loving my entire setup so far but I've been looking at the htc's Palm Treo Pro as a possible candidate right now, this freaking thing is looking super cool and I'm dying to hold it(this sounds so bad, :p) nevertheless I just want to see how it feels in my pocket and its general functions, so if you had to upgrade, what would you upgrade to ?
[HTC Excalibur] NRGZ28:
The Blackjack II which I just upgraded to a couple days ago :)

Faster processor, double the ROM and RAM, almost double the battery capacity, still only 100 bucks for a new one ... :P
[HTC Excalibur] jdoggraz:
The G1 haha
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
HTC TyTN II

Just love the look of the device got good features too... :)

Mind you think i shall be sticking with the Dash for a while no rush...
[HTC Excalibur] Ryanmo5:
Would either go with touch pro or diamond, love the diamond but i'm not that well off lol. Thats why i got the dream coming!!
[HTC Excalibur] atlp99:
G1 is tempting me

I love my Dash, thanks to this forum.

I have looked at different phones for a while and nothing has been nice enough to spend the money. I have considered BB Curve, BB 8820, Kaiser, unlocked iPhone, and probably more. All of them have been missing something or would have been more of a lateral move, not worth the money.

The G1 is nice enough to make me seriously consider getting one. If NRG would port Mini weather over to Android I would be sold. It is a Great app that I miss every time I pick up another phone.
[HTC Excalibur] blackjack2:
Wow, I had no idea, I actually considered it briefly but I did not take a serious look at it, are you running 6.1 and how many megs do you have at boot up, of ram, do you find yourself closing apps or just leaving them be. thanks NRG
[HTC Excalibur] NRGZ28:
I get about 80 megs free at bootup. I never close apps anymore, dont find the need to. And of course I'm running 6.1 with my weather app on it... lol
[HTC Excalibur] NRGZ28:
It's just a weather app...... :D
[HTC Excalibur] blackjack2:
OMG, that's so sweet I'm going to get one, are you aware of the Garmin Mobile XT hack for free GPS loaded to the miniSD card, I'm so stoked I can't wait, I'm retiring my Dash and moving on to the BJII, will your cab file for the weather app run natively on the bjII, thanks NRG :D
[HTC Excalibur] blackjack2:
NRG, what browser are you using on the BJII, is it Opera Mobile by any chance. thanks
[HTC Excalibur] NRGZ28:
Miniweather works just fine. The blackjack is exactly like a Dash, it runs the same OS. It just looks different :)

And yes, I run Opera Mini and it works just fine :)
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Having owned several OnePlus phones over the years, I have so gotten used to the side slider 'button' to quickly silence the phone.

I am seriously considering buying a Pixel 6 - but just wanted to know from Pixel5 owners etc, is there a way of configuring a gesture that would allow me to configure the alternative to the slide - i.e. would not need to unlock the phone etc in order to mute it and then un-mute it?

I don't mean when a call comes it etc, just when in its idle state and say I just remember in a meeting that it's not on silent...

I have tried to google this - but have not found a definitive answer...

Thanks!
[Google Pixel 6] zanix:
You could use tasker to remap the quick tap

Supercharge the Pixel 6's Quick Tap to Snap feature with Tasker

Supercharge the Pixel 6's new Quick Tap to Snap gesture with Tasker. You can even use it to trigger custom actions based on the orientation of your phone.

www.xda-developers.com
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Thanks - will look into that if I cant get used to the volume button+screen tap to mute.
[Google Pixel 6] dj-rjay:
I was also used to the OnePlus Do Not disturb slider, however, I think google is doing it here much better.

if you go to System >Gestures > and then select Flip to Shhh, this will activate the "Don Not Disturb"

The Explanation of this function says:

"To Turn on Do Not Disturb, place your phone face down on a flat surface. You'll feel a subtle vibration when the Do Not Disturb turns on"

When you then pick up the phone, the Do not Disturb is disabled. i use this all the time and it works quite well for me.

i hope this helps.
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Thanks - I did check that feature out.

But it won't work for the kind of situation I often found the slider useful - e.g. the slider would allow me to silence the phone, whilst still in my pocket - if I remember during a meeting or something...
[Google Pixel 6] tiantianisfox:
same boat here. i installed an app called "button mapper", and have mapped long press vol+ to change vibration/sound, and long press vol- to turn off screen. force of a habit.
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Thanks @tiantianisfox - installed that - helps.

I also noticed that the Vibrate icon has vanished from the Status Bar for Android 12.

I had to install Super Status Bar to get that back for now.

I have send feedback to Google - hopefully if enough people complain, they will add it back later.
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Hi,

Just an FYI Update.

I have been trying out a few different apps.

I found that MacroDroid will let me configure the volume buttons to change the individual volume levels for calls, rings, media etc etc.

So, currently, I have set:

Volume up double-tap, to 'Volume Change' with specific volume levels for each item e.g. High Ringer Volume - but low notification volume. etc

Volume Down double-tap to 'Volume Change' with all volumes to zero and Enable Vibration

I will try this out for a few days - otherwise, the next option will be something like Tasker or Macrodroid) + Sound Profile app with the automation subscription.

UPDATE: The Volume Double tap did not work consistently, so I changed it to Volume Long Press - of which there are two variations.

The more useful Long Press has to be enabled via an ADB Hack and works even when the screen is locked.

You then have the option of using MacroDroid functionality to adjust the sound settings based on Up and Down button - including setting the Ringer Volume and Notifications volume independently (somethiing missing from Pixel 6 and many other phones).

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However, I prefer to use the Sound Profile app (+Automation subscription) - to activate the Sound Profile of my choice and it seems to offer better control over the volume levels. e.g. if I set the ringer volume to 100% in a Sound Profile, it is louder than if I set 100% in MacroDroid Sound settings.

In terms of notification/status icon, I prefer to use the Macrodroid Notification Icon rather than the Sound Profile one - as the Macrodroid one is shown on the Lock screen as well.

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The Send Intent looks something like (replace the Profile name as required):

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Hope this helps!

I should add that you can send Intents to Sound Profile from Tasker and AutomateIt (and possible others) as well.
[Google Pixel 6] Wshankles:
Button Mapper works very well. Never had an issue with it not working.
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Sure, but it only seems offers a toggle option for Vibrate - I could not map one button to Normal and the other to Vibrate...
[Google Pixel 6] Nimueh:
I installed this app/widget for it this morning - works like a charm and is fairly small so it doesn't look too out of place :cool:
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Cool - but that would require me to take the phone out of my pocket and unlock it - before I could change the sound mode.

I was looking for something that would avoid unlocking the phone and avoid interacting with the screen - i.e. just by pressing a button..
[Google Pixel 6] Nimueh:
Button Mapper can do it, before I found the above widget I used that. Had the Volume Up button long-press set to toggle silent/vibrate and it worked pretty good, so maybe give that a try?
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Thanks - but as I explained just earlier - button mapper only offers a toggle option - I could not map one button to Normal and the other to Vibrate.. So, I could not be certain when I use button mapper - whether I had set the phone to vibrate or not - without unlocking the phone and checking the sound settings
[Google Pixel 6] Papote3:
Isn't power + volume up working? This shortcut was introduced on Android 11 I think. It will quickly turn on vibrate only or just mute (you can change what it does in the settings)

Only issue is that I think it wont turn back to ring, it only goes one way
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Don't seem to work on the P6 - I disabled the Macrodroid before trying it out...

Power + Volume Up brings up a selection window with Emergency, Lockdown, Power Off + Restart buttons.
[Google Pixel 6] tiantianisfox:
problem with tasker and button mapper is that the silent/vibrate/ring on pixel is actually do not disturb/vibrate/ring, so it is kinda inconvinient. i now uses "rules" in settings to trigger them.
[Google Pixel 6] Papote3:
You can try the quick tap feature and make it to open this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=muter.muter

This is an extract from this article:

Haven't tried it before but it's worth a try
[Google Pixel 6] harryw66:
Hey - thanks. But I have the tap programmed for something else and I want to be able to switch to vibrate and normal with certainty - not a toggle back and for either.

My solution allows me to do that i.e. one button for normal mode and one for Vibrate mode - so no uncertainty as to what mode it is in.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] SupraMario:
I've tried all kinds of stuff at this point, %100 know it's software, as I did the cache wipe and it worked for about 10 seconds during a call, then stops. Speaker phone works fine, but it's literally 0 audio otherwise. Tried even the google phone app as well thinking the samsung default phone app might be the issue, but I'm seeing this is happening to others in this thread:

https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5...android-11-update-in-galaxy-a10s/td-p/9197711

This started 2 days ago. This is a major headache for me.

Anyone have any ideas on a fix? or anyone else having these issues?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] blackhawk:
I wouldn't have upgraded to 11. Samsung uses specific little apks to navigate around Android 10's buggy OS. Over 100 were added to 10 aa compared to 9 to tame 10 down and make it usable. It's even more for 11, no doubt. It may be one of those added on apks that's the issue. Almost impossible to find unless you know which ones specifically to target. In 10 I was impressed by that little nightmare. Samsung is trying very hard, but they have a crapware Android 11's framework and Google's rules to navigate to do this.

Have you updated anything before this happened, if so go back to the factory load version.

Have you installed/uninstalled any apps?

Does it work in safe mode?

Try a network reset.

Try a factory reset if you get desperate, but it's likely to reoccur if you don't find the root cause.

You can use a package disabler to troubleshoot it by disabling apks one at a time, but there are literally hundreds. It will also completely clean apk data leaving no marks; clearing data in settings doesn't always and all it takes is one to screw up some system apps... been there, done that.

Unless you're in wuv with 11, I recommend rolling back to 10 if doable. It would probably save you a lot of time and trouble. Pie is for easier to troubleshoot than 10. I have two N10+'s, one running on 9, one on 10. They will never be upgraded to 11... that's how strongly I feel about it. I'm still getting to know the Android 10 variant's characteristics, so far no major issues.

The one running on 9 is fast and very stable, current load is over 1.5 years old.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] SupraMario:
Well that sucks, I bought the phone used with 11 on it already :( I guess I need to figure out how to roll it back.

I haven't installed anything for over a month when it started happening. Doesn't work in safe mode, only works for 1 call after I wipe the cache.

Well, this actually worked, hopefully I can just do the reset if it happens again. It's working on 2 test calls so far so, here's to hoping it lasts. Really appreciate this!

The upgrade from 10 to 11 didn't make much a deal to me, they aren't so different that it matters. I do think I'll look into how to downgrade to 10 though.

Appreciate the help!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] blackhawk:
Yay!

It was just a hidden settings issue. That purge should keep for a while. Occasionally I need to do it for bt on mine as well but never for the phone. Just a semi annoying glitch but not a big deal once you know the trick.

Rollback is likely impossible if it's a factory load because of the bootloader version. Typical of Samsung; I can't roll back my Q variant to Pie.

It depends on the bootloader version vs the rom version. The significant digit is the 5th one from the end. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher, you can flash it. If lower than the bootloader's 5th significant digit, no go.

In my case the value is 2.

I'm curious what are your impressions of 11?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] SupraMario:
Well now it works on and off, very weird.

Ugg, that's annoying.

Hmm, mine is a 7, so if I want to rom it I need to get a rom with 7 or higher? This doesn't seem good.

11 is fine, this is my 2nd note, originally had the Note 4 and really loved it. Now this one, while I like the phone has a ton of bloat on it. This Bixby crap is just awful and now this speaker issue is really making me sour to it. I honestly wish I could go to a base build of 10/11 without all the crap added, I dont use any of it because it's just flashy bells with 0 function.