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[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] crxssi:
Hmm. When I click on the first day from the tile, it just says "No events" below the date and "add on phone" below that and it doesn't scroll up or down. I can only swipe right to dismiss that day and go back to the stupid 6 day display. Swiping up/down does nothing. Am I doing it wrong?

On a side note, I did just add the calendar app to launch when I click on the WatchMaker face date display. So at least that is a little helpful.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] jtOttawa:
Hmmm - my first day has an event - do you have a day with an event? If so, click on that one and scroll up to see if you see the option to change views.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] crxssi:
Nope. I don't have hardly any events. So that must be the difference.

Really, I kinda hate their calendar tile :)
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] jtOttawa:
And rightly so - it really does need fixing, and hopefully this new update or a future one does that - as I agree, the old tile was great (and still is, on my Gear S3). *Edit*: Forgot you mentioned already that this update didn't do it... 😕
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] Srbija2012:
Anyone on DUJA experiencing better battery life?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] CrazyCypher:
"Samsung says that it has added new hand gestures. Galaxy Watch 4 users can now set a new hand motion to open a pre-selected app or a frequently-used feature. With a simple ‘Knock, Knock’ motion with your wrist, you can open any app, a workout, create a reminder, or turn on a light."

Is this the same gesture as answering a call?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] crxssi:
I believe it only came out yesterday, so you might have to wait a while to know this.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch 4] fliptwister:
A little early on this. I can give a better answer in about a week. I have only fully charged watch once since update. I have 1 day 10 hours of use since last full charge and it is estimating 1 day 7 hours left. This is in line with what I was getting before. I have been getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life on average.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] tomz17:
Finally have (somewhat) of a solution for this...

See my post here

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=39985
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".

Google Pixel 6 review

The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12

www.tomsguide.com

Other phones per Displaymate.com testing:

Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2

Pixel 4 XL = 448 cd/m2

Pixel 5 = 670 nits (per Reddit)

iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2

Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2

Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2

OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2

800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.

A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.

Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] paysen:
That would suck if true. I have an OP 9 Pro as well and even that could be brighter in sunlight :D
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Roland Deschain:
Ugh. Way too dim. I live in Miami, and I bought the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra because of its bright display and even that I can BARELY read outdoors during the summer months here. We need 2000+ nits on phone around here. :(
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] wekebu:
I'm very concerned about this. I currently have a Note 20 Ultra at 1500 nits. I very rarely need to push the brightness, but when I do, it's there. At 800 max, this is one of the first test I'm going to run.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] h4ck3r69:
Google hasn’t listed the exact screen brightness and instead only states it has a high brightness mode, but to my eye, it’s as bright as the iPhone 13 Pro that hits 1,000 nits of sustained brightness.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:

https://elementalx.org/devices/

and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Yep. Hopefully tbalden will implement his kernel (CleanSlate) for this phone. He not only has a High Brightness mode but a High Brightness Boost mode that is fabulous in bright sunshine for the Pixel 4 XL.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Birdsfan:
My delivery date has updated again, back to Oct 27-28. Guess I can stop holding my breath till I get my way :)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] dj24:
I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
One complaint I have about my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is it doesn't get dim enough when being used in the dark. It doesn't automatically go to the lowest brightness most of the time, and even when I manually lower it to the bottom, it's still way too bright. It's relatively rare these days that I try to use my phone in the dark, but through root on my Pixel 1, I was able to go even lower than it got without root - which was already lower than my Note does. It is nice having the screen be able to get so bright, although in the brightest sun, it was still slightly difficult to see, and it's more important to me that the software works the way it was meant to - which is not what I get with the Note.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 94b20gsr:
I'm with you, have 20/10 vision and light sensitivity so sunglasses anytime I'm outside that's not after dark and have every piece of glass in my car tinted including the windshield so I suppose we are in a slightly different category than most in this thread.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] droidguy22:
Checked Pixel 6 Pro today at Bestbuy, felt P6P is not as premium as S21 Ultra. S21 Ultra build quality felt premium to me, the back being matte feels like metal, also S21 ultra screen quality is better (brightness and richness of color etc..).

Check the attached screen comparison pic (both are at 100% brightness).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Do you know what display options the Pixel 6 Pro has? For instance, the 4XL has Natural, Boosted and Adaptive. The 2XL has Natural, boosted and saturated. I believe Adaptive is default for 4XL and Boosted for the 2XL.

@droidguy22 Did you notice these options while you were playing around with it?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Very slight difference between natural and boosted on my Pixel 4 XL, but noticeable difference with adaptive compared to those other two.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Googles high-brightness mode can't be toggled/manually "activated" by hand (except if you root and force that), so most people just max the slider and then make a comparison. That's why there is a lot of confusion concerning the "doesn't get bright enough" - But that's bull****. It won't work. You need to go into a direct sunlight situation and then and only then the phone will max out. It's hardcoded and is only active when the phone sensors scream "supa bright!!!". It's Googles way to do it and it sorta sucks, but that's how it is.

So if people want to make a brightness comparison, they need to be in a very bright spot to make sure that the Pixel phone will actually max le brightness. If you just max the slider in a room with normal lights, the phone will not go into high brightness mode and your comparison will suck a*ss, because those Samsungs or Apple phones will shine your daylights out.

By the way, what helps Pixel smartphones (at least the P3 and P4 XL that I owned showed that) massively in terms of readability is decent anti-reflective coating/glass. A phone with decent anti-reflective capabilities and 800 nits is much better readable than a phone with 1100 nits and bad anti-reflective capabilities.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I know. Real max auto brightness (when the phone detects very high brightness) is very different from the max manual brightness just by sliding the brightness bar to the end. Next time you check, try flashing your phone flashlight right next to 6p's front camera and the brightness should jump up even higher.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
I was checking this at Best Buy yesterday as compared to my Oneplus 8 Pro and the Pixel is 100% NOT as bright. It looks somewhat comparable though, and it's not a dim nightmare, but you can definitely tell the difference.

I am starting to think this phone isn't worth the 1k I paid for the 256gb model ><.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
Like stated in the previous comments. In order for the phone to reach its maximum level of brightness, the phone has to be in direct sunlight.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] zymphad:
Not surprised. Everything with Pixel phones since the first had been, just enough, but never enough to be impressive or on par with the competition. Always just enough to not be destroyed by Pixel fanboys.

Always enough disappointment to keep the fans of competing devices away. But never disappointing enough to lose the fanboys.

And google wonders why no one except Pixel fanboys view their phones as flagship.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
Imagine not buying a phone because the screen is not as bright as the other phones.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
Imagine having a 1000 nit or higher phone and being able to actually mostly see it in direct sunlight and then moving to a phone where you can't.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
I'm actually thinking of buying a OnePlus 8 Pro instead of the Pixel 6 Pro.

Would you be able to share any other observations between the two?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
I don't have the Pixel yet, but you wouldn't be disappointed with the 8 Pro, and you can get it for like 450 bucks on Swappa now. The camera is also its weakest point, but it's not bad by any means. Speakers sound great, the screen is fantastic, the battery life is awesome. TBH the reason I wanted to move to the Pixel is for the camera but I am not liking what I am seeing so far on these reviews.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Izy:
so someone tested the pixel 6 display it does it 1000 nits peak
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Can you give us a link to this? Thanks.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
With reviews popping up everywhere, I'm seeing mixed numbers on nits.

Anything from 800 to 1200 but nobody is clarifying how they tested or if auto-brightness' "extra oomph" was tested.

Most numbers are in the low 800's.

I won't give advertising clicks (links) to the reviewers who don't know how to write a proper review.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
Does anyone know anything about this kernel I've been hearing about on past Pixels that can somehow increase max brightness? How did it work and was it stable? With the assumed bootloader unlock that could be a solution for those of us that are used to 1300 nits at max.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
There were two - someone else in this forum a few days ago mentioned CleanSlate. I'm aware of ElementalX, which I used on the Pixel 1, along with two separate companion apps. One for most of the kernel settings, and the other specific for HBM (High Brightness Mode), which included a widget to turn on/off manually, but you could also enable it to automatically turn on when needed.

I know ElementalX was made for and worked with the stock Pixel ROM. I don't know anything about CleanSlate's history, yet, but I've made notes to myself to look into both again every once in a while in hopes they come out for the 6.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
I am very interested in this and I hope the dev comes over and makes a kernel for it. It's honestly been a long time since I flashed anything like this. The recoveries on the OP phones got pretty unstable around the 7 pro's launch and Android 10 and I haven't used one on my 8 pro at all. Hopefully we have a working TWRP.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
CleanSlate kernel and some others have it for the Pixel 4 XL (and some other Pixels). CleanSlate also has a High Brightness Boost mode, which goes beyond the High Brightness mode. There are 2 accompanying apps to go along with the kernel. Very stable. He has mentioned he is getting a Pixel 6 Pro and will see how easy/hard it is to develop his kernel for this device.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
If you're already aware of this, ignore me, but it became harder and harder or at least unreliable to actually flash TWRP to the Pixel 1, but it was super easy to "fastboot boot twrp.img" - that is, tell it to boot TWRP while connected to a computer. The upside was that your phone was slightly more secure since there was no custom recovery actually on it. The downside is you couldn't use TWRP anytime you like if you weren't able to connect to a PC to do it with.

I had been mostly only using TWRP to flash updated Magisk and kernels, since the kernels would get updated every month along with Android's security updates, so it wasn't too bad for me.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Yeah, TWRP is almost becoming a relic of the past in many ways. I haven't used TWRP since the Nexus days. I just use fastboot to flash Magisk's patched images and kernel managers to flash kernels. Haven't really missed using TWRP at all.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
He says the numbers are for "HDR content" so I'm not sure if he's tested the extra you get for viewing under sunlight.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] galaxys:
Somewhat same & haven't flashed on device, but have fastboot boot the TWRP.img if I needed it!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Sounds like he tested it right since he gave a normal max brightness and then a HDR brightness, which should be the same as High Brightness mode (at least it is on the Pixel 4 XL).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
That looks about right.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] smallfish82:
I notice there's a photo here with an issue I noticed straight away with the P6P. The screen isn't as white as the S21U. It's off white most the time and that makes it look inferior to me. Detail is covered up. Photos look blue instead of white. I think/hope this is software driven not to do with the physical screen. I have the new update installed though.

It feels a much cheaper phone although it's a more pleasant phone to use. Helps that the physical weight is better balanced etc.

Cheaping out with no screen protector though... Geeessss Google!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] boober78:
I would not call it brighter. The white is calibrated incorrectly, seems yellow.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] boober78:
I can imagine actualy. I use the phone as a screen for the drone, so s21 at the moment wins ns in that category. That may be actually important for others.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
The display on the s21U is a lot better than the P6P.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I think you should be more worried about finding an ophthalmologist than worrying about the brightness of a phone.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] boober78:
Dude, do you have any experience in flying drones during a sunny day? What a stupid comment...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
I don't need to have experience flying drones to see how bright the phone gets. you have no valid argument.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] boober78:
You are a nonce sir. This specific scenario and 30% of difference in sunlight is really important. EOT from my side. Answering: I can imagine somebody buying or not buying a phone due to the maximum screen brightness.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
I've just received mine.

Test full white screen auto brightness and almost reach 1500nits.

So far very happy with it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Furymaker:
what i wonder more about the screen is why is not to going down as low as 10fps when it was announced as ltpo panel?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
How did you engage the auto brighness extra nits LUX?

Did you shine a flashlight into the sensor?

Thank you for sharing.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
Flashlight !!

You're welcome.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
Looks like a decent meter you're using, not that I know anything about using a meter to check a cellphone's brightness.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
It let the job done.

I use it mainly in photography but I also test all my phone with it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
That's awesome to hear, I already wondered about this, considering that the Pixel 4 (XL) also had a hidden high-brightness mode that only activated in extreme sunshine situations. I guess a rooted Pixel 6 Pro can easily be forced to max out brightness even in normal situations. One more reason for root.

It's just a shame that most reviewers never bothered to look into this and now most people believe that the Pixel 6 maxes out at 800 nits, which appears to be bogus.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
Google should have put this in their specs. It's no ones fault but their own. This is one of the reasons I cancelled my order, and if I knew this it would have been one less thing pushing me in that direction.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I made two reddit threads to spread awareness of your findings. Hope you're ok with that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/qh0k1z

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/qh0kuq
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 2015Ducatimulti:
that`s ok allows someone else to get there order faster:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
lol what is wrong with people on this forum. Seek help.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
No problem if it helps !
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 2015Ducatimulti:
seek help......nice, I was just joking, but apparently you got butt hurt over my comment, people need to quit trying to justify cancelling there orders and etc, you have 30 days to return it, if it doesn`t meet your expectations..... then return it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
I think Google should work on auto brightness mode, IMO it's subpar when comparing with iphone or Samsung . I have to root my older pixels in order to fully enjoy the brightness capability of those displays.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
It's like you're actively angry about what someone else does. It's very very strange.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 2015Ducatimulti:
I`m not angry, I`m laughing all the way, hence the laughing emojis :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
Alllllright then! ><
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] oneandroidnut:
i call bs on this. it is not as bright as my note 20 ultra
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Do you have the P6 Pro and forced HBM by manually shining a flashlight into the sensor next to the front cam?

Technically, the P6 Pro can reach (Samsung E5) full-screen peak brightness of 980 nits, and low-APL brightness of 1,508 nits. At least that's what measurements have shown with other phones using E5 that I found. If Google allows that brightness or implemented it in any way, is another question.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] oneandroidnut:
I shouldnt have to force HBM to compare to my note 20 ultra in normal use
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TonikJDK:
This. And it goes back to an earlier post about Googled implementation of HBM. It's bad, it does not come on except in extreme situations. I suspect it is because of a focus on battery life.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
high brightness increases subpixel wear off. So burn in can happen faster. Samsung phones do HBM out of the box but then you will have a massive battery drain, your phone will get hot, and you will have burn in sooner than you expect it.. you can trigger HBM if you are rooted.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
A redditor made the observation the measurement used above was LUX and not NIT, and the conversion does not look awesome.

I thought one LUX = one NIT but I'll defer to someone actually using maths.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
One lumen per one square centimeter is exactly 1 lux (like my luxmeter measurement).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
You did not display impressive mathematics so I cannot believe you.

;)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
Convert Nit to Lumen/sq. Meter/steradian

Instant free online tool for nit to lumen/sq. meter/steradian conversion or vice versa. The nit [nt] to lumen/sq. meter/steradian conversion table and conversion steps are also listed. Also, explore tools to convert nit or lumen/sq. meter/steradian to other luminance units or learn more about...

www.unitconverters.net

Edit: I wish that were NITS to LUX instead of NITS to Lumens.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] TonikJDK:
Wait, there is a conversion website for a 1 to 1 conversion? Seemed like a waste until I realized we actually needed it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] xgerryx:
1 Nit is approximately equal to 3.426 Lumens.

It's all over the internet.

Tom's Guide measured peak at 842 and max adaptive at 495. And they called the 6 pro the best smartphone for the money.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] cheami:
you guys seriously think the phone magically gets brighter than what tech specs lists it at? plenty of legit reviewers measured in nits that its around 750-800

Morgrain is just spreading fake news on reddit lol
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
https://www.computerbase.de/2021-10...#abschnitt_hellere_bildschirme_knacken_1000cd

Computerbase measured that the p6 can reach 1150 nits, The P6 Pro 1100 with 10% apl (with plenty of room to go down, meaning higher nits possible).

Mind explaining that?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
I think you meant LUX instead of lumens.

I just got off work and spent a few minutes googling the LUX to NITS conversion formula.

1433 LUX = 456 NITS like the Redditor said.

@Labellecabresse have you tested any other phone displays with your meter before?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
Yes i did.

I reached same numbers with iphone 13 like this gentleman
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Bundles of photos... you really need to spend some time reading to understand these units of measurement not just use conversion charts.

So great, it gets as bright as the sun, but how long until the blue organic led pixels start to fade at this brightness? Is it practical?

Once this happens, the color rendering index is completely skewed. Not a pretty picture.

My N10+ can be use in direct sunlight but I avoid doing it. If I do it's for seconds.

I limit the brightness to 50% or less, manually.

After 2 years of heavy usage there's no degradation noticable using ScreenTest.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] CZ Eddie:
Thank you. So, our 1433 LUX with flashlight shining on the sensor and auto-brightness turned on will compare with these numbers from that video where he used the same sensor as you.

Then, it seems all of these iPhone models are brighter than Pixel 6 Pro.

Even the regular old iPhone 12 is brighter.

That is unfortunate.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Labellecabresse:
Yes in HDR iphone are brighter, but i consider that is limited usage. In day to day conditions it's on par with iphone models (except 13 pro which are crazy high in my experience).

The most anoying behaviour is the auto brightness algorithm, i have to constantly cranck UP the slider in order to enjoy the brightness of the panel.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] krips2003:
IMO, all these numbers from reviewers regarding anything, whether it's battery, display, etc. is mute. The best thing to do is to test the phone by yourself and see if meets your need or not. For me this is brighter than my last phone i.e. Pixel 3. Moreover, when the sun is out, I prefer to wear my Polarized sun glasses, which already makes the brighter things dim. So in my case, I don't read or watch anything when the sun is directly hitting my phone screen.

Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro is the best phone released by Google in the last 11 years or so. 🙏 ✌️