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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
ya, most of them said they were getting them in the next few days too. so at least we know they are starting to trickle out. One said that they had a box of new phones in the back and they were waiting for hte manager to come in so they could open up the box, said they would call me if therewere fuze's in there

I'll check the store tomorrow and see what I find.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
yea most of the store reps dont know anything, like why would u work at a Cell Phone Store and not know about phones or be interested in them at all.

Its like working at Gamestop and not being a gamer or knowing about games wats so ever.

Epic Fail indeed, Kraize92
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Welcome to xda-developers (1 post late :P). But yeah. I want to work in AT&T store, but you have to be 18 >.>

I know a store rep that should be getting the fuze soon, so I'll let you know how that goes. $275 w/o contract :eek: (Premier discount)

;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] faustiano:
I have bought my last 2 phones (Wizard and Tilt) from the Premier site a day or two before they were actually in stores. I am checking the Premier site a couple of times a day. Hopefully, it will show up sooner then later :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
That's a good idea :)

But im planning on getting a couple fuzes w/o contract, sell for more than $275, with profit, upgrade my current contract (doesn't matter, fuze is $275 with contract for me also). It won't really be my premier discount, the contract price is my discount. the w/o contract ones I will buy from someone. So all in all, a free phone + profit :) if you don't count being tied into a contract. I could care less. I need a plan anyways.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
Lol if they come before 2009 maybe we can do business
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
i went to the premiere site last night and i put in my college email and it said i was "eligiable" for the discount from it

but im a STUDENT..can i still get that discount? or is it just for Faculty and staff??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Thinking about $450/$500. I'm trying to get as much as I can xD and I'm sure people that can't by it with contract would still love $50-$100 off.

I dunno, register and get back to us on that. It might be interesting if AT&T is offering discounts to students lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
What are you talking about? Premier doesn't give out discounts without contract extensions anymore, and they haven't for quite some time. They will extend your contract and you wont be able to get a discount on any others until your 2 years is up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
If you can get that many that's doable. And I checked and my school can get additional discounts too. BUT that's only if you're eligible for an upgrade or a new customer. Sucks for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
premier doesn't give discounts to people who aren't eligible to upgrade anymore. I don't know what he is talking about.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
I didn't know what premier was up until a few weeks ago when the first Fuze page leaked. Give em a break. :rolleyes::D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Um you want 4/5 fuzes for $450-$500 each? Holy crap lol what would you do with them? Or did I misunderstand the question and you only want one for that price?

USPS discount gives 50% retail. AT&T Reps get 50% off retail on their personal account. Need I say more? :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
LOL that's just for brah. I am no where near that loaded!!! LOL hell, one is a stretch for my wallet :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
Nice my company also gets 50% off equipment or the best promotional price are you going into the store to get your Fuzes or you ordering them through premier. If your going through premier website where do you go after you put in your info upgrade device only? Some extra funding would be nice. And hopefully the Tilt will go down to 150 or 100.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
This will give me a reason to pay off my credit card next week and cop some Touch Pro's
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Alright. I was kinda hoping I could sell 4 off the bat ;). I'll send you a PM with pics as soon as I get them and you can buy one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
I used my schools discount when I was in school. I was starting new service. I went from Prepaid to Individual account. It wasn't the greatest discount but it was enough to take care of taxes on my phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
I think a Tilt price drop is almost certain (I hope). I wish I worked some where that gave a discount like that. Hell, I'll just take a job... damn recession.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
the only way to get the discount is if you buy it on the site right? or can you go in store and do it as well
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
enclosed adapter

i will try. it was rectangular in shape. there was definitely a mini-usb headphone jack, a mini-usb charging port, and 2 small circular jacks, possibly a 2.5mm and 3.5mm?? can video come out of a simple jack like that?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
Premier discount in store

Two reps at different stores told me that if I print off the premier screen showing my discount price and bring it in that they would match it. These were ATT stores and not Auth retailers. If you call att cust service etc. they will tell you that the only place to get premier disc is online. In reality that is not true.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
Good to know. I'm running into issues now where they are trying to get me to pay 300 for a refurb blackjack II for my wife

are they out of there mind.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] htcfan78:
Check this out. An actual official announcement from ATT. Although it is not the Fuze, it's a step in the right direction. After reading this, I called my local ATT store, and the manager confirmed the November 4 date for the BB Bold. He also said that historically, ATT has not released more that one PDA device on the same day. He said to look for the Fuze sometime between now and the 4th, and that typically releases happen on Tuesdays. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I'm hopeful for the 28th.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
Edit: nevermind, I was thinking of the old Premier site. I don't even see any place where it shows my percentage "discount" anymore. The percent discount on devices on Premier was bull**** anyway. They just increase the price of the phone and then give you your discount so that the price matches everyone else with premier, no matter their percentage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
Insane ATT junk regarding Disc.

If you want to hear some insanity try this. My son went to ATT from VZW (had to have Ijunk) I opened an acct w/ 900 min for him, in 8 mo. he had 4300 roll over min. 3G Icrap came out, son got one, gave Ijunk to my wife, she wants to port her vzw num. to ATT as she loves Ijunk (it was made for her as she has her hands full flying a microwave). She is the perfect ijunk lover.

Now I get into it. I went to Premier to find a phone for me and figure out how to get disc. Customer service was wanting me to do everything online.

1. Get new family plan.

2. Go to premier, order ph. and wait for delivery (couple days)

3. Then go online to get the number ported (another day)

4. Then get wifes ijunk put on the family plan.

5. Move sons Icrap over the family plan ( and loose the 4300 rollover min in the process)

All this uglier because all the numbers we were porting over were from NJ and we are in Co. now so out of region.

Went to store, told him the above, said fix this mess or we all stay VZW.

In one hour we walked out with.

One 1400 min family plan.

Wife and sons Istuff on it.

4300 min applied to the family plan.

Numbers ported (after the normal couple hrs. for the vzw ATT swap)

Agreement that when the phone I want comes out I can have Premier price in store if I bring Premier screen shot, and proof I am entitled to Premier price.

CAREFUL! There are times when Premier price is higher than store price. All premier is xx% off retail. Some phones are less than that after rebates in the store.

Does this help with the pricing??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] radu_b:
Video out on Raphael

Do a google on "HTC Touch Pro TV Out Cable AC T110". Raphael does support TV out (red/white/yellow), it is one of the icons in the settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
hehe, well here is the story, I dropped by since I got home a bit earlier than expected ... the claimed '1" phone that was left of the fuze ...

turned out to be the VUE. I guess it does sound similar. but I said HTC Fuze. so IDK.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Wait so are you saying it had two mini-usb ports? and two circular ports? Are you sure? I don't think it has any jacks for headphones. Be sure to take pics if you get to find those! It'd be interesting twist with aee tee n tee if they did have that. Video out can come simply through mini-usb.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] veloaudio:
I think he is talking about the adapter that comes with the phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
Wait before I go calling my old college because I forgot my password. Is there a real benefit to buying from a premier account. I qualify for an upgrade. What is the discount?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
Last Word on Premier

There can be a benefit to premier.

Some phones are cheaper on Premire. Not all, some, so compare to in store with rebate prices.

For me, dealing with buying online and then activating isn't worth the hastle

so I would print off the premire disc price, take it to the store and make a deal there. Premier price might help in store. If the store ends up high enough buy via premire but I dooubt that will happen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
i understand i just recently tried to port over wife's number from tmobile had a terrible time

given my area code is in dc and hers was ny york got the not in region crap finally called customer service and told them I was going to cancel my account and go to tmobile and all of sudden they know what to do after goin through about 15 reps that said it wasn't possible. Transferred me over to NBI put me on business account and applied my family talk 1400 plan. long story short things got squared away now wifey doesn't like her phone so were working on returning another member said that if I print out premier pricing they'll match it so she's goin to try and go into the store to exchange her phone and try and get the pricing
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
it depends on what kinda deal your school has with ATT

if i remember correctly back when i used it i got my 8125 brand new for 120 or 150 this was like 3 years ago and they gave me a 10% discount on my monthly bill

nothing major but enough to take care of taxes in most states
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
hopefully doing the print out works tomorrow wifey has been tryin to get this phone for a while now hopefully she doesn't jump ship and get an iphone
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
there is the mini-usb male to interface with the device itself. then there is approx 3cm of sturdy cable leading into a rectangular piece maybe 4-5cm in length. on the base at the far end of the rectangle is a mini-usb charge/sync port clearly labelled as such by icon. on the long side of the rectangle is a mini-usb clearly labelled by icon as headphone. then there are two circular jacks next to each other. the trainee said one was video out, but he didn't know how in the OS to export the signal, and the rumor was no AV out packaged in the US version, so i doubted him. also, my expectation was something similar to the AC T110 offered by expansys, so i didn't get my hopes up. however in thinking more about it, the port looked remarkably similar to the AV out port on my portable dvd player, so maybe he is right. don't know what the second circular jack is.

it could simply be the HTC 3-in-1 offered on many websites with the addition of AV out. i also did not see earbuds which double as the FM antennae, but i didn't ask and he didn't say. i will try to get a better look today.

EDIT: yeah, i've actually cancelled my pre-order of the AC T110 from expansys because i already have something that looks like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Archos-AV400-Travel-Cable-Kit/dp/B0006BC5XI

and i'm pretty sure that will interface with the thing that came with the fuze. of course i could be wrong, but maybe those of you more knowledgeable can speculate and advise.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
To Keland44

Your wife wants a BlackjackII refurb? On my premier it is $49.99 for wine or black and $59.99 for white. Good luck and don't get cheated. Oh yea its only 79.99 for a new one. imo the extra 20 or 30 is worth it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
Soooo, no one was able to get there grimey little hands on a fuZe yesterday!??? Is that correct?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hondaguyjoe:
My local stores will only say next month some time
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zachoo:
Launched on Sprint...

http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1217060&highlight=

And the Fuze wait continues...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thunda_chunky:
I hate Sprint right about now...

So if Sprint has this exclusivity deal, that means we could be looking at a black friday release of the FUZE? Or does the deal just apply to the other CMDA network carriers like Verizon?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] glebv:
I was about to post that too, except the engadget link. And according to engadget, the full launch would be on the Nov. 2nd.Now why would Sprint do a limited launch instead of a full one.

thunda_chunky beat me to the question of whether the exclusivity agreement still holds, I shouldn't take a lot of time to ponder about my post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zachoo:
Also, worth noting that searching the ATT biz site crashes... Searching for "Fuze" on the regular ATT site brings up nothing.

But- searching for "HTC" on the standard site brings up this (http://www.wireless.att.com/global-search/search.jsp?q=htc&start=0&num=10&searchEngine=g) which has the old FUZE listing indexed.

Desperately hoping my 8525 holds on until the 4th!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
my second quick look

met briefly with our ATT corporate manager this morning and got a quick look at his fuze:

1. he said <= 2 weeks for release date

2. i saw ICS on the device (program shortcut out of the box) and he confirmed tether usage < 5GB soft limit is ok on the regular pda data plan.

3. screen is really sharp, but small. still not great for browsing IMO. if the screen took up the entire device like the HD it would be just perfect IMO.

4. adapter does in fact have tv out jack (no cable though)

5. the contact flipper you see alot on the TF3D demos is limited to 15 favorites (you can't thumb through your entire contact list that way).

will get a closer 3rd look later today.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] laakness:
good to know :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scott ISH:
Thanks for the awesome info, man!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
Is the TV Out jack the HTC proprietary ExtUSB jack, or is it different?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RRHelly:
I just stopped by my local att store here in Easton(Palmer), PA. The manager wouldn't deny or confirm any dates on the Fuze. He said after the BB Bold issues, he refuses to give out dates anymore. Best he said was "soon".

He did confirm that some of the employees have gone to the training for the Fuze.

I just got a Tilt to replace my 8525 on the 14th of Oct. I asked him if the Fuze comes out before my 30 days would there be any problems exchanging it for a Fuze. He said as long as it is in new condition that wouldn't be a problem, and added that the Fuze should be there before my 30 days are up. My 30 days are up Nov 13th.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Presumably that would mean that the 3.5mm jack is the video out, and what you need is a cable with a 3.5mm plug on one end and RCA plugs on the other? (That would be great, as I already have one of those from an old camcorder, assuming the connection assignments are standardized or happen to be the same.)

That doesn't seem too onerous a restriction; my thumb would get awfully tired if I had to do that with my whole 200-person list every time! ;)

Thanks for the info!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
What 3.5mm jack? The Touch Pro has a mini-USB universal connector which it uses to sync/tv-out/charge/audio and everything else. There never was a 3.5mm jack anywhere on this device that I've heard of and I've been following it for about a year now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Well, I stand corrected. I guess the guy on eBay was legit after all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Keland44:
did you buy one?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Dramacydle:
I signed a 2-year contract with AT&T when I purchased my Tilt, just over a year ago, and my upgrade eligibility on the AT&T website shows that I won't qualify for an upgrade until the middle of 2009. What are my best options for purchasing the Fuze for less than retail? Can I renew my contract and get close to the new-activation price? If that's not possible, I was thinking about contacting the AT&T customer care/retentions department and see what we can work out, but I'm not sure what kind of clout I have after one year of loyalty.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Yeah, I'm not eligible for an upgrade until next year and I'm not patient enough to wait until "sometime in November".
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Crotalus:
Just stopped at the local store. asked the friendly blonde sales rep if she knew anything about the Fuze.

Her reply yes we have them...

Me: can I see one or better yet buy one

Her: let me check, then she went into the back and came back "sorry we don't have them yet"

Me: when will you have them?

Her: another month

Me: Another monty?!?!

Her: yeah November 4th.

I then had to take the tim to explain that Nov 4 was 10 days away

Her: oh yeah haha.

while I was somewhat happy with the info the conversation was a bit trying. That and I went from completely elated to slightly depressed when I found out I couldn't get one.

I will be at their door when thedy open Nov 4 unless I can get them to hold one for me somehow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sehgal:
Was this a US 3G version? DO you have the link?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
OMG hahahaaha that was too funny..

not this month but another one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
they where on ebay not too long ago
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
I was referring to the multi-adaptor that plugs into the proprietary mini-USB connector, described earlier in this thread by raywrite1 as coming with the Fuze:

I have a similar thing with my 8525, except that it only has the power and headphone sockets, no mini phone jacks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
AT&T will allow "early upgrade pricing" on the iPhone, but I'm not sure if they do it for other devices. I think you may be stuck paying $549, or you could start up a new line, pay $299, then $175 ETF... That'd cost you $475 + 1 month of an extra line + activation fee = $500ish total. Not worth the hassle IMO.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Yes, it was US 3G. As far as I can tell, it's what AT&T is shipping. I don't think he has any more but the eBay item number was 260304356673.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
TV out jack

that's my best guess at this point - i happen to have one of those too.

i'm not an expert but am happy to share what i saw/held.

it's a multi-adapter stemming from a single mini-usb which interfaces with the handset, so the expansys cable should work too if you want to bypass the enclosed adapter.

hope to see/know more in an hour.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
See more in an hour? I'm in King of Prussia right now, tell me where to look! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ucf713:
Does this mean that if we have the $30 PDA Personal Data plan we can hook this up to a laptop to use as an internet connection up to a 5GB limit?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
TV Out/Headphone Dongle

Here is a couple of pictures of the dongle that came with mine. Like I said, I'm almost positive this is the final shipping version for AT&T. I know the 3.5mm jack works with regular headphones but beyond that I'm not sure 'cause it didn't come with a manual.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
sent you a PM
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
yes, that is how i interpret it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
tv out cable pictures

this is precisely what i saw and held. now the video experts can make cable recommendations and advise us on what we need.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
You should do what I did in this post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2810558&postcount=357 on this thread once this device is released. Even if you have to lie to get what you want :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Fuze up and running

I've got my Fuze set up and running so I can try to answer questions about it if anyone has any. I'm not an HTC guru and I doubt that what I have is much different than what Black had a few weeks ago but I'll answer what I can.

My only surprise so far is that it has the multi-faceted "diamond" back. I though AT&T was going with the same type of plain, rubberized back that the Tilt had.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
So If I am understanding your posts, you copped an official ATT release version? Pimp.

Oh... can you comment on FM Tuner hardware being on the final version?

Got any more pics? I like pics.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
That kinda just looks like 3 different sized headphone jacks - 2.5mm, 3.5mm, and HTC proprietary. Especially since there appears to be only one picture suggesting what they are (unless there's something in the shadow on the left). It does eliminate the need for any adapter. Are we sure the AT&T version has the necessary software for TV out? I thought Black's needed the cab installed and the HTC TV Out cable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
Not sure if the hardware is there or not but the software doesn't seem to be. I think I read somewhere that the hardware is there and you have to get the mini-port headphones and install the FM tuner cab to get it to work. I might order a pair of those headphones next week and if I do, I'll install the cab and let you know. (Assuming it's still not out by then.)

Here's a couple of pics... anything in particular you want to see?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fredinco:
Video

I read in a thread that the hardware was to be in the Fuze but not the software. Those said that a simple cab would turn it on. That may be true but it would suprise me that the jacks would be there if the software was not. Comments from smarter people than I?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i hate you
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
looks sexy. i'm glad at&t kept with the sharper edges (corners). i didnt too much care for sprint's rounded off version. still waiting for this phone to come out though!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
uhhh.... this looks like it has rounded corners to me or am I mistaken by the images?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ucf713:
If you get a chance, can you take some pics of the ATT interface? I'm curious to see how they changed all of the touchflo 3d screens. Thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
I want to see it in MY hands. :D

Thx for the pics... I was curious if they kept the shiny back or went with the soft touch and looks like the former.

That default ATT theme has got to go. At least the color scheme, anyway...

Hope the FM hardware is there.

Enjoy the new device, mang!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ITNV:
It is a REALLY sharp looking phone. Picks up fingerprints like crazy, though...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
not quite.

at&t: http://image.wetpaint.com/image/1/PNb0IGoYAQO_3NrX2TdJpA702877 sprint: http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/22/220/220644/mediaitems/7016/TouchProByHTCopen.jpg
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
yeah it would seem like a fingerprint magnet. i think its overall stylishness makes up for it though...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
wtf the at&t link looks like a picasso. Pretty cool that the Sprint keyboard put in the euro and pound sign.