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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] I8UB4:
I was waiting for a haircut today (L.A.), so I figured I'd go next door to to the AT&T store to see if they had any word on the Fuze. I asked the guy if he knew about the Fuze release and he pulled one out of his pocket and handed it to me.

He said he was told at the training when they gave him the phone two weeks ago that it was supposed to be released on the 4th, but he hasn't heard anything since. He says it's still possible, but it might be a week or two later.

As for the phone, it has a glossy black back, not the matt black of the European version. The YouTube program has been removed (although the guy had the website bookmarked). They took the beautiful European OS and made it an ugly grey. The top row of keys are symbols, not numbers. There is a push-to-talk button on the left side below the volume rocker. There is an AT&T tab on the TouchFlo 3D interface.

I must say, I've played with the Sprint version at Best Buy, and it is a much better package. I like the curves and the chrome/gray accents of that version. Unfortunately, I need to use it internationally, so I can't go with Sprint. If I didn't travel overseas, though, I would definitely get the Sprint version. Sprint also has the $99 everything plan, which is much cheaper than anything AT&T has to offer.

The only saving grace is that you can re-bulid the OS and themes of the AT&T Fuze here at xda-developers, so you can undo most of the damage that AT&T has done to the phone.

Does anybody know if you can buy a matte black European back to replace the shiny Fuze back? Will the European back fit the Fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
good story. glad more stores are having info on it

but yeah any damage att does can be fixed much easily on the gsm version the sprint is harder to work with since its cdma and the youtube program you can add along with fm radio and the extra ptt button should be remapable
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] WhackyPlague:
Which is how? Sorry, the Fuze will be my first WinMo phone..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yeah, if you can find one =/ I've been looking for them also. If you ever find more than one, PM me a link cause I couldn't find one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
just like any phone before iphone arrived just call the number and follow prompts

but check out the youmail thing that was posted in the last few pages it works nicely supposedly
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Biggg 2nd, I've been using YouMail for as long as I can remember, so much better than AT&T's voicemail.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Hey black. How do you setup the voicemail notification with youmail? I remember seeing it somewhere, but I can't find it now. I get voicemail still, but not the notification on the taskbar that shows I have a voicemail. I only get a text message.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Unfortunately, you can't get a voicemail notification on your phone, that's carrier-controlled. The only way to get notifications is via text message, but I have unlimited texts so that's fine with me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yes, but I remember that I had a visual voicemail that allowed me to do that. I just wish I remembered it's name now :( I'll get back to you when I find out it's name.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] starscalling:
!!!!!!!!!! no control key !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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actually if your bored or feeling generous, if you mind testing pocketputty? can you a. sign into a user that 1. has pw starting with a # or symbol? 2. has either in the pass? b. get out of screen session?

ty in advance just in case ~_^
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Control key equivalent on PPC's = Function key. What would you use a Control key for?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bigb252:
Don't know if this works, but try

Login to Youmail

Click 'My Account'

Then on the left, click 'My Alerts'

Choose MWI instead of Enhanced TXT and try it out...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
the function key does copy/paste?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Two major uses:

1) For the typical Microsoft keyboard shortcuts for word processing: ctrl-C for copy, ctrl-V for paste, ctrl-X for cut, ctrl-B for bold, ctrl-I for italic, etc.

2) When typing to another system via ssh (like the request a few messages ago referring to pocketputty) or remote desktop. Unix/Linux systems typically use control characters for command-line editing and in editors like emacs and vi, and it's pretty hard to generate control characters without a control key.

I like most of what AT&T has done with the keyboard, but somehow I have to get a control key somewhere.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
its november 3rd everyone!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] y2whisper:
yeah i think most people that don't need 3g would do that if the price ends up being equal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] MrDSL:
Actually YouMail has that option now..Under my alerts in the When I get a Voice Message

MWI - uses the 'message waiting indicator' on your phone

*edit* nevermind its already been mentioned above..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
it kind of defeats the purpose of the slide-out keyboard, but is it possible that the on-screen keyboard has a Control key? its better than nothing, right?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
so, if the stores are going to begin selling it tomorrow (11/4), they should be receiving them at the latest today, correct??? i think i may call a few stores when they open up and see if they have any (maybe they'll even let me go buy one today!?)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Yes, that's the workaround. (Or, for the Windows shortcuts, to use the various menu options and/or toolbar buttons for those functions.) But having a real control key makes things a lot easier.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Phantisy:
You might want to wait til after noon. The delivery trucks don't deliver right at the open of business.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jcotterman:
Not completely true

When i got my 8525 it was drop shipped to the store that day. I don't remember the exact day but it was either a Tuesday or Thursday (was at a certain clients when i called the store to confirm stock) and I would expect the same from the Fuze.

And on another note. I stopped by said store yesterday to inquire about the Fuze and even up to yesterday they were saying late November at best. As they just finished up training on the phone, they normally see a two-three week delay before store stock arrives. Hopefully this is not the case, however, for the Fuze.

JC
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
my local store has bolds in at the moment but no fuzes

he said they still could come this week but of course not for sure
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
video out diagram from sprint manual

the sprint manual shows the video out cable, and the enclosed dongle is not in the picture. check out page 131 of http://www.sprint.com/cdma/assets/pdfs/phone_guides/htc/htc_touch_pro_ug_en.pdf

since the sprint site mentions a 4-in-1 adapter (what we've been calling the "dongle") and the manual refers to a "multi-function" audio cable, i assume that the dongle is an audio only adapter.

so in keeping the trend of having to make educated guesses rather than knowing for sure, it looks like the video out for FUZE will not involve the dongle but rather a separate cable.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
I think you mean page 123, but good find none the less.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
just called about 10 stores. every single one knows of the phone finally

and pretty much all were saying at some point this week so odds are semi good
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
video out in sprint manual

yeah - it's printed manual page 123, pdf page 131.

Section 2J. Managing Your Device

i was trying to get the same info from the fuze early recipients, but no one could find such a shematic.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] renegadebmw:
Now that AT&T has the rebate form (KD8DNS showed before) on their site, the Fuze has to be out soon. I mean the rebate offer ends 11/25 so it has to be released well before then or why else would AT&T put it on there.

Actual PDF File
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
so that picture would make it appear that the TV Out cable is in fact the HTC one after all . . .

I guess if you really want to use the functionality, $25 isn't that much to pay . . .
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
Xperia available (sort of)

If the Fuze's delay has sufficiently upset people enough to jump ship (I'm not one, especially since I think its coming out tomorrow), this place has the unlocked Xperia X1 available (in 28 days, apparently). The plot thickens?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ramontrotman:
just came from two different att stores. one said towards the middle of the month and the other said the 13th. let it be known the people on the floor were a little more intelligent than the door nob i used to gain entry to the place. i'd also like it to be noted on record....they weren't that much more intelligent than the door nob....believe you me!

the frustration builds!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
haha so basically they were all nobs just one had to stand by the door

at least they know what it is now if thats not progress i dont know what is
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] slyng1:
I live in Jersey City and called the 2 JC stores, the Hoboken store, and the Wall Street store. Here were the results:

-The JC store on the sketchy side of town said they would probably have them tomorrow (although like your experience the lady on the other end of the phone did not sound like the sharpest tool in the shed).

-The Jersey City location in Newport said sometime in December!? WTF?

-Hoboken said "November, maybe next week?" Not the most credible source.

-Wall Street store said (with some degree of confidence) Nov 13th.

So there you have it, 4 calls, 4 different answers. This is ridiculous...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
just called a few stores. one guy told me that he knows about it, but its not on his order sheet for this week. another guy told me it was supposed to be released tomorrow, but it got pushed back to 11/14. he said they got an email about it. seemed pretty certain... doesnt look good guys.. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ramontrotman:
yes the walll street store was the one that said nov 13th. of course....should the phone arrive after of before the 13th i'll be walking down the block to slap the manager.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bad Ash:
Not that it is very credible but I called 4 stores here in the Chicago burbs and all 4 of them actually had similar stories... sometime in the next two weeks. So that Nov. 13th looks like it may be the date.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] raywright1:
yes, for me it's clear that the dongle included with the fuze is the HTC YC A300 audio adapter offering audio only. expansys usa has an estimated stock date of nov 14 for the video cable
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
can you imagine if anyone actually DID confirm that it was coming out tomorrow. . . .

doubtful anyone would dare confirm a date tomorrow, next week or the next month
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beachboyde:
Fuze release comfirmed

Hi everyone. I just called my local ATT store the I deal with regularly. They confirmed tomorrow but ask me to call back today around 5pm EST to see if they arrived on the daily delivery. If not they won't have at 9am tomorrow the 4th when they open, But should have them later in the day.

I'll keep you posted but more importantly is that is at the back door.

Beachboyde
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i certainly hope your source is legit

it has to be this week or next though with all their employees actually knowing what it is finally
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
the store i talked to last week did not actually get a shipment in, but are actually still expecting the phone/information about it tomorrow, as well.

a few other stores were reporting a big shipment in today by 3 with bolds and fuzes. i'm still hoping for tomorrow (so i can order it online)

edit: another said "any day now"
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
ok, so a rep from a REAL legit, official AT&T store (not an "authorized retailer") just told me that it IS being released tomorrow, however that does not mean that they will have them in store, but it may be available online.

So at the very least, i think we can expect an announcement today or tomorrow. i'm very antsy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ghost13:
same here just verified wtih a real att store it is being released tom but not sure if they're getting a shipment of it in by tom.have to talk to my "friend" after 2:30 when they get their shipment
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] y2whisper:
Well look has made the trip over to the raph forum.

been a minute since i've seen a post from ya, hope all is well.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] slyng1:
Come on now - stop getting my hopes up again! I was just starting to come to grips w/ the Nov 14 thing. Now I'll check back tomorrow w/ the stores, only to have my hopes dashed yet again!

Who knows, maybe that first store i called got it right - fingers crossed...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fyr196:
Just talked to rep in Vernon Hills, IL. (North of Chicago) He said they are set to sell tomorrow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
Okay... SO!...

Following up w/ my friendly reps at the Lynnwood ATT store..

Michell wasn't in, however I spoke w/ David, who wasn't sure when he'd be getting it in... He then checked his master list of goodies, and found that the fuze is slated for a Release Tomorrow...

He said he gets shipments between 11 and 1... SO i'm gonna call back then and see what arrived.

If not tonight, hopefully they come in on the 'morrow!

I'm gettin' kinda giddy :D!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
All I know is, this is going to be the longest 24 hours of my life. My friend told me he's calling me at 1:30pm tomorrow so I can verify he has it (he is expecting it tomorrow) and go pick it up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] oberton:
I was in an AT&T store today and I did not see a Fuze displayed anywhere.

I wonder what the non-commital price will be?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NotATreoFan:
PM me with the results of the phone call... I am more then willing to drive to Montgomeryville Mall to snag me a Fuze. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
"set to sell tomorrow" certainly sounds like "we have them in-hand and are ready to sell when the doors open tomorrow..." hmmmm....

I am still waiting for the SE X1 press conference. Decisions, decisions...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kerensky97:
When I worked in customer service "set to sell" was a cop-out for "something might go wrong so don't quote me".

"We're set to sell this tomorrow..."

"But considering the shipment isn't due for 2 weeks, the town's only bridge is out, and we're going out of buisness this afternoon, it may not happen."

;)

Although in all likelihood they're just waiting for the official go ahead to start. Big companies do hold employees to Non-Disclosure Agreements where they can't announce something before it's official. If the salesman is smart he'll say, "It might be Nov 4th, but I'm not sure. Here's my card, call me specifically to check *wink* *wink*."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
will do. you might beat me there, if he has two - I'll be coming from Jersey.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cparkhorn:
North Austin, TX Store

Just went out for lunch and went by the corp ATT store in Cedar Park, North Austin suburb. Same guy there that has the Fuze from his training class (won it in drawing) and showed it to me 2 weeks ago to play with. Then (2 weeks ago) he said only that they thought before Christmas, and he had one so he was well aware of them.

Today, 3rd, at lunch he said they had the BB Bold as planned, and that he was told they would get shipment this afternoon to put them on sale tomorrow at opening, 4th. He said he and a few other guys in the store had spoken to 5 different people at corporate today, shipping etc. and the 4th is the day.

As usual, take it for what it's worth, he's not just a clueless rep, but he doesn't have them in his hands to sell, and yes I asked if I could get it tonight if the shipment came in, he laughed and said they just couldn't do it. We'll see.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news. I just spoke to a att sales rep. in NYC.

He said the fuze wont be out till the 17th. I hope hes wrong. But seems mighty confident, cocky even. However he said the bold is coming out tomorrow. Seems there main focus is the bold for now. All u hear from reps.

bold bold bold. F the Bold ...bring on the fuze
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bad Ash:
i just talked to the store manager in Vernon Hills... his answer for me... "not sure, sometime in the next month..."

So yeah... :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
hahah I'll see you there!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
I bet a lot of them dont know ... under promise, over deliver.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clitcommander:
bwahahaha, all I can hear is circus music :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cincy1020:
Called 3 stores today. One never heard of it, and I had to spell Fuze for her. She looked it up, and said within a month. The second said they would receive it, but no clue when (gee big help).

The third, which sounded like he actually knew what he was talking about, said they had received info that it would be released this week, but have not heard anything else about it. He also said they usually receive "packing slips" for phones that are shipped to them, and they haven't received any for the Fuze. He said one way or the other, he expected a release VERY soon :)

PS: All stores were in the Greater Cincinnati area.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
I'm sad to say today after going to 2 ATT stores and one not even knowing what a Fuze was the other says next week I gave up.

Now that isn't to say I won't get a Fuze I just spent the money I had since Oct 23rd, I bought a pair of 100% het ball python Albinos and I'm going to be enjoying them, sure it may take me a couple of weeks to save up the Fuze money again but meh I'm not in contract and I'm sick of doing the waiting game I think I'll enjoy my money for once.

I'm still getting the Fuze though, heh!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DesCo:
Not sure if this helps, but I called the ATT premier business line (I get a corporate discount on my service) and the woman on the phone had no idea what I was talking about. Is there anyone else who has a discount FAN that knows what the discount will be on this if you're outside your upgrade window?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
call about 5 stores in Manhattan. Even ask the time they get phones delivered. All stores have gotten the BOLD today. And are on sale tomorrow. They all seem to know about the HTC Fuze. All stores reply around mid November. For now ATT its all about the Bold.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
I'm really beginning to think that there is no reason to be optimisic about tomorrow. It's currently noon on the West Coast, 3 on the East coast... I feel like they would've announced something. A quick phone call to my local stores reveal "answers" of "next 10 days," "the 11th," and "sometime this month."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
It's 3pm on the east coast and I'm 99% sure it's not coming tomorrow I really wanted one but you know what I'm not going crazy over it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Captain_Throwback:
you know, I was thinking about the whole "announcement" thing. Why would AT&T announce this phone? If you notice, they only seem to announce phones that either present something new, and/or that they have exclusive rights to. The Epix, for example - "the First Smartphone with Built-In Optical Mouse". The Bold - "a breakthrough 3G BlackBerry® smartphone that operates on the nation's fastest 3G network and is the first to support HSDPA networks around the world". Even the Tilt, when it came out, was "the most feature-packed smart device available in the United States," that "will debut exclusively through AT&T". The Fuze? Sprint was the first to release the Touch Pro, and there was certainly an announcement from them. Maybe we're just expecting too much, because we're so looking forward to having the phone, and we think it DESERVES an announcement.

But I agree with the general consensus right now that for AT&T, its all about the Bold. I still think I'll have the Fuze in my hands tomorrow.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] will6316:
Time to change this thread to November 16. My birthday of course:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jjgainer:
Which Cedar Park store!!!

I'm in Austin and very interested in getting my hands on the Fuze. Which Cedar Park store is that which says they will have them tomorrow? Could you please send me the phone number and address. I tried calling the Lakeline store, but they refuse to answer their phone. When I called the store on Whitestone, they said they wouldn't be getting it in until the 6th.

Also, does anyone know if I can continue to use my Media Max data plan with the phone?

Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johndango:
After tomorrow passes, we should change the date on the name of the thread. We should change it to everyday until it comes out (ie. the 5th, the 6th, the 7th and so on).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
hmm ... thats interesting. I guess I'll have to do the same thing. the $$ I'm paying T-Mobile may not be worth waiting tho I need to swtich over. There is no "30-day" price match? If there is a back order problem I wouldnt be sad as it would push me to the 30 day period... again I'll have to check if there are re-stocking fees.

Can you place pre-orders?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
I thought there WAS a pricematch... but perhaps I'm incorrect... I bet if you went in and whined hard enough, lol, as long as it was w/in the 30 days.. maybe?

I'm sure it'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than returning and repurchasing... Even if they credited it directly to my acct, i'd be more than cool w/ that...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
of course you can price match you dont need to return and buy back
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] papercut2199:
Dunno but checking on the old boy genius report that has the upcoming phones on sale did slate 3 new phones to come out Oct. 14 (Today) and as Engadget shows that Att launched 4 new phones. Looking at that list does show some phones to come out today so I wouldn't throw away that list just yet :p

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008...c-fuze-samsung-mirage-bold-moved-to-november/

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/14/atandt-goes-wild-with-texting-announces-four-qwerty-phones/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] zephxiii:
Damn! I hate my BJII's reception :( ....do you know by chance where the antenna is located on the Fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
Thats what I was looking at too in my previous comment so there is some validity to the sheet. They did release 4 new phones on that sheet the Pantechs and the HP. BUT! Are they actually available at the store already tho?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
Well, whatever it is 23rd or the 3rd, its coming pretty damn soon!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] krafty:
Does someone who has taken advantage of Black Friday specials before know if they are available on the web also? I will be out of state and don't think I can upgradethere locally, so if I can't get the phone via web there is no point in waiting.

TIA

Krafty
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
For new phone releases like this .... does it make sense to buy the maintainence plan? I usually never do but, I thought I would ask.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
I always get the insurance, think about it your in a rush to do something you accidently put down your phone and leave and it's gone. Now your going to have to go out and pay full price on it if you want another one, there's a 500 dollar mistake, 5 bucks a month for peace of mind worth it in my book.