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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I have the P6P as well, and even considered getting the iPhone 13, but I'm not sure if it's something I could bring myself to use again seeing as how I despise Apples UI, and not sure if it'd be necessary with how little I use my phone. I used them for years before switching, but came to loathe everything about them as they're so hesitant with change and user customization.

My carrier (AT&T) is allowing me 2 weeks of a free trial for a new phone since I've yet to properly upgrade / activate a new phone for many years, so I may try one out and see how I like it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
The iPhone 13 has a newer modem but I doubt that it's improved battery life is from that. The iPhone 13 has a 12.7% larger battery while the iPhone 13 Pro Max is 18% larger.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
After 2 weeks of ownership P6P battery life is comparable with my Pixel 5 now thank god, it was horrendous to begin with.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Wish I could say the same lol I lost 20% overnight, and another 20% in 9hrs with only 30 min of SoT. Something is messed up somewhere as my phone never enters deep sleep, and idle usage is high.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
I really hope Google is working their butts off on some of these issues. This is pretty serious and they need to optimize the way the modem is being used. Even if it means throttling 40% (or whatever) of the speed, I'm ok with that. Speeds are crazy at 400-800mbps. I'd be ok with 200mbps and better heat management and battery life - although I do get 8 hours of SOT and charge every other day when I'm on wifi (fp is 99.9% effective for my pro so not really complaining just concerned).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
If you restart in Safe Mode, it should show up in network options (to turn off 5g) if you're on AT&T or Fi. Alternatively you can access "phone information" by dialing *#*#4636#*#* - when "phone information" opens, wait a few seconds for it to populate, then a take screenshot of your preferred network type before doing anything (! there's 15 options to chose from) and change it to LTE/WCDMA or GSM/LTE/WCDMA (PRL)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I understand how it works. Safe mode doesn't do anything different as I've always had the option until this new phone.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
3% in last 24 hours
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
Ahh ok. It's bizarre that they remove this ability. It doesn't make sense.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
It hasn't been "removed", it's still there just not showing up for everyone. Even on older phone models the option disappears after changing network types. It's weird.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Androims:
Hello,

I am having a similar issue.

battery life is great when at home in wifi... I m getting around 8 hours SOT with no problem..

When i m at work, with no wifi i m getting around 4-5 hours max...

i swiched to LTE as preferred network, this didnt help..

when looking at the stats, i have around 30 % network usage.. this isnt normal i guess..? It uses more battery than the screen..today 35% network..

did i read well, that doing a reset and try again to install all manually may help? What else can i do?

thanks for your help
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
I factory reset and installed manually. Doesn't seemed to have worked
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Androims:
Ok, thats what i thought.. i dont want to do all that just for nothing
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
What's your signal like at work? 50% or less? And how was your battery life with your last phone at work? I'm guessing it was better right?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
The modem in this phone is hot garage which is contributing to mobile network standby usage. That, or Google has some bugs they can fix in their software that can utilize their hardware components better.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
Google Pixel 6 mobile network draining too much battery on standby mode

Google Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro users report 'Mobile network standby' draining too much battery.

piunikaweb.com
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Burt Squirtz:
Very well spoken man. I agree with this 100%.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Can anyone tell me why this app won't collect any stats?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Has the app been updated for newer Android versions? It was kicked off the Play Store and the OP of the BBS thread hasn't been updated in three years.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I had downloaded it from their website and assumed it was working because it wasn't in play store anymore. I had to use the adb commands to grant permissions, but if it no longer works it makes sense
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
The latest version is on AppCenter (2.6-382). Is this the adb command you ran?

adb shell settings put global hidden_api_policy 1
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] robbieast:
My battery drain while on standby at work no screen on is terrible too...

The signal at work is terrible but I don't think I should be dropping all the way to 20 percent after work with minimal usage
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
Quite a few tech writers are blaming the old 5G modem for contributing to poor battery life. See this:

"Surprisingly, the Pixel 6 Pro turned in an even worse 7 hours and 53 minutes on our battery test, despite having a larger 5,000 mAh battery. In adaptive mode the Pixel 6 Pro lasted 7:46 or about the same time.

By comparison, the iPhone 13 lasted 10 hours and 33 minutes on our web surfing test and the iPhone 13 Pro Max hit 12:16. The Samsung Galaxy S21 endured for 9:53 and the Galaxy S21 Ultra endured for 11:25. Last but not least, the OnePlus 9 Pro lasted an excellent 12:48.

Interestingly, we tested the regular Pixel 6 a couple of times over 4G as well and it averaged 10 hours and 52 minutes. That's great, but we would like to see better results over 5G.

So what’s going on here? We have a couple of theories. For one, we tested the Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro at 77% brightness for our battery test, as that’s what it took to get to our required 150 nits. Other phones tend to reach that nit level at around 50% brightness, but we wanted to keep the comparisons fair.

Second, the Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro reportedly use an older Samsung modem found in the Galaxy S20 series. It's over a year old at this point. We suspect that this modem is not nearly as efficient as new Qualcomm modems in today’s flagships.

To be fair, no one is going to surf the web continuously until the battery dies, and our test is not designed to mirror real-world use. In fact, thanks to Google’s Tensor chip and tools like Extreme Energy Saver mode, you should be able to get through most of the day (if not more) on a charge.

But when it comes to tasks that utilize 5G on the go, the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro are definitely a a step behind the competition when it comes to battery life. "

The Google Pixel 6 is a year behind other flagships — here’s how

Pixel 6's lower price comes with lower 5G specs

www.tomsguide.com
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
The modem has been suggested here many times, and most recently been brought up to Google as a major issue of battery drainage, even on standby. It's something they're looking into, and I don't believe it's hardware related, but a bug in SW that can probably be fixed with some coding adjustments.

One thing pisses me off about this quote: "Interestingly, we tested the regular Pixel 6 a couple of times over 4G as well and it averaged 10 hours and 52 minutes. That's great, but we would like to see better results over 5G."

How much damn power are you expecting? Literally 11hrs of SoT isn't good enough for the P6, but it's OK for the iPhone to get 10hrs and 33 min via web surfing? lol
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Androims:
Signal at work is great, habe full LTE. Before i had a OP 8 Pro, was worse in wifi, mybe a little better in network... With 500 mha less..
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
I am not as convinced as you that it's not hardware-related, as the article seems to indicate. What makes you believe so?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Alekos:
I think for now, for most of us, best way to manage this is to turn on LTE mode. If you're in a 5g supported area, LTE+ is probably great. But this isn't to excuse the problem. They need to make it better, end of story. If there aren't any improvements in a few months it'll be an issue. All manufacturers have issues once in a while and all we can do is send them feedback through Android settings and official Pixel Support forums.

I just wanted to add, changing to LTE only mode isn't a magical fix and it's not instant. It takes a week or two for the system to adapt. It took my pro 4 days and now mobile standby is at 8% and get approx 8-9hrs SoT (but I do have 30 system apps disabled and only have 30 or so 3rd party apps installed).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Simply because, I've searched the issue and it's happened on other devices that use better modems. I'm not an expert, but from reading different threads something within the SW is causing background usage of mobile data and I'm certain it can be fixed with a SW update.

Since day one my phone never entered deep sleep and had severe battery drain, going so high as losing 20% overnight, but since booting into safe mode last night, whatever processes that kept my phone awake have let my phone sleep the way it should, and I've been having better usage out of my device all day. Mobile network standby is still high, but I'm not standing near a charger after 2hrs of using my phone lol.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] spr33:
Use GSam instead - making sure to use the ADB commands. You'll then see what's causing drain/holding locks.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Utini:
How about disabling this option which is *on* out of the box?

Settings -> Developer Options -> Mobile data always active *off*

Always keep mobile data active, even when WiFi is active.

Also I am thinking of disabling mobile data and switching to 2G when connected to WiFi but having low 3G/4G/LTE signal reception. E.g. with Tasker? But not sure if that actually saves battery since Tasker itself will consume battery then as well.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Turning off mobile data always active doesn't do much, at least in my case. All that does is ensure you can switch between wifi and mobile easily without disconnecting from specific services.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
5g heats the phone like crazy and battery goes to rubbish on it. It's clearly an Exynos 5123 modem problem because it's old and inefficient, it won't be fixed with software updates because it's a hardware problem, just look at the Exynos 990(which was a disaster) that uses the same modem configuration. Google have completely messed up on this.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Utini:
It should help when the radio signal (to the 4G/LTE antenna) is low.

Because then it stops seeking constantly for new/better antennas?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] kheltek:
Noticed something that worked for me and figured I'd share. I was using a beta version of the messaging app way back when and forgot. Noticed under battery usage that in addition to mobile standby drain, messages was running all the time but drain percentage wasn't that high. I reverted back to the non beta app and both standby and overall battery has been significantly better.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
I get all that and I'm not denying that 5G is draining the 6 Pro more than 5G on other phones. My point was from iPhone 12 to iPhone 13, it's battery improvements were mostly from an increase in battery capacity.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] somethingsomethingroot:
This is my first time attempting 5G all day, and 25% in ~ 2hr means that'll be the end of that.

Otherwise it seems... fine. I guess. Just not what I was expecting from a 5000 mAh battery.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
In most cases at the moment it isn't really 5G, you still connect to 4G, and 5G is added over the top to improve the data rate, so your phone is doing two things to maintain a connection rather than one. Unless you have real need for all the extra speed, it is better to just stick with 4G. Eventually 5G stand alone mode will be supported which hopefully should improve matters as a device doesn't also need to connect to 4G at the same time. I'm guessing the less than stellar efficiency of the older Samsung modem in the Pixel 6s coupled with having to maintain two connections is the cause of much battery drain.

Samsung phone battery drains quickly on 5G service

Your phone's battery may drain quickly if you're connected to a 5G network. This is a current limitation of 5G networks.

www.samsung.com
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MacGuy2006:
I've seen a few places, including this article, that claim that the efficiency of the newer 5G modem in the iPhone 13 contributes significantly to the long battery life. I have access to an iPhone and the thing lasts really long.

I have another week or so to test the Pixel 6 Pro. So far I like a lot about it, but the 5G modem/battery drain and the fingerprint sensor are dealbreakers for me. I am on the fence about returning it and getting the iPhone 13 Max. It's really a more finished phone.

I'll miss the zoom though, which is really great. Otherwise, I dislike the over-HDR-ed look from the main camera, which can look terrible, but I figured that can be fixed by updates.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
It is correct that the Qualcomm X60 modem in the iPhone 13 is a lot more advanced than the Samsung in the Pixels. Qualcomm have a lot of tech such as self tuning antennas (to cater for changes as you hold the device) and various clever power saving features. Qualcomm know what they are doing when it comes to mobile chipsets, its basically all they do. Also as Qualcomm are so ubiquitous, including in the US, everything is well tested for interoperability with all the main carriers.

I could have got used to the finger print sensor (I had just gone back to using a pin), but knowing I had paid a pretty flagship price for a device already sporting out of date cellular connectivity, where even on 4G with a larger battery it was draining faster than my old devices when just in standby and not activily being used, just didn't sit right with me.

If these Pixels had a Qualcomm 888 or 888+, we'd not be having these conversations, and I don't buy that the additional software features on the Pixels have anything to do with the SoC being Googles own design or that it is special in some way, that as they say, is just marketing. It is also Googles desire and marketing to try and compete with the likes of Apple by pretending they design their own chips, that ironically means they fallen short of being able to compete with anyone!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] somethingsomethingroot:
When it's good, I've gotten like 250 Mbps. There are times where I'd like those speeds without have to dig for a toggle every time. Otherwise, I've seen the LTE logo pop up enough times to not bother for the most part. As much as I want to blame Verizon, my wife's iPhone 13 is on 5G all the time. That's on the modem.

All the other flaws haven't been an issue for my device (My FPR seems to be better than most and I manually install OTAs), but even in 4G the battery hasn't been great, certainly not "all day."
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] nighthawk626:
Battery life is great with minimal use on and off. But when I use my phone for 15 minutes or longer it's hot and as long as it stays hot, the battery just starts depleting rapidly. Not to mention the charging time is worse than my last 3 phones combined. Nice one Google. You got me again
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Interesting. I can go for a 20 minute drive with YouTube playing, I'm paying attention to the road of course 🙂, and only lose 5% or less.

Did you have some warp charging phones? Charging time is reasonable of you have a PPS charger. Goes 20% to 80% in 55 minutes. It's not amazing but it's better than my 18w Pixel 4 XL charger which takes 1 hour and 15 minutes.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] nighthawk626:
Just so people don't think I'm exaggerating
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Charger are you using? My 15w Pixel 2 XL is faster that that. I heard OnePlus chargers aren't Power Delivery compatible so if it's that, you need to get a different charger.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] nighthawk626:
The Samsung super fast chargers. I also bought a 30w PD charger and same results
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] ynnek63:
I am happy with the battery life so far. I use AOD and lift to wake features. Definitely better than my Pixel 3.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
I think someone on the Pixel Superfans Facebook group had a similar slow charging issue and got a replacement.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
Using GSAM and wondering why battery usage is so high when the screen is dark? Does dark mean the screen is off?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Avatiach:
Thank you for sharing this article! Followed the tip it mentions to disable adaptive connectivity and it seems to have really made a difference for me with less draining overnight and much lower network standby %. Only made the change a day ago but looks promising so far 🙏
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
All that's telling you is your screen usage and the brightness behind it; either super bright, medium brightness or dark, which I'm assuming is night mode or off completely. You're better off looking at the app usage section to see what's causing the highest battery drain.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
5g is just unusable on this phone between the heating and battery drain. It's disgraceful I have to turn it off because of these issues.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
Definitely seems better. Do you have 5g or lte? Mobile data always active or no? That doesn't seem to do much.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] robbieast:
Should we have adaptive connectivity on or off? Mobile network drain is so bad if your signal is subpar
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
I turned it off and it seems to have helped quite a bit. Time will tell
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Avatiach:
I kept all other settings in default so mobile on and 5g on, just adaptive connectivity off. The most noticable for me was over night where previously I'd lose 2-4%/hour and now 1%/h or so. Could still be better but def a meaningful improvement. Just hoping it'll stick, continuing to monitor...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I'd like to do a factory reset to see if I can get mobile network standby fixed, but I wanna backup some app data in regards to my battery stats. Do I have to bite the bullet and face the fact it's not possible since I'm not rooted, or are there solutions out there I can use?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] miravision:
adb backup -all
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I don't care to backup all apps, only a few
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] miravision:
for APP in $(adb shell pm list packages | grep -E 'accubattery|betterbatterystats|etc|etc|etc')
do
APP=$( echo ${APP} | sed "s/^package://")
adb backup -f ${APP}.backup ${APP}
done
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Listen, lol I appreciate the help but would enjoy reading some sort of guide on this so I can do the packages I need. I don't understand some of the commands you're using and prefer something I can reference.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] orlans21:
I also turned this off and I think it did help with overnight drain
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Opensystem:
Just wanted to update my findings now that I've tweaked some settings and the battery is starting to settle. Disabling some of the Google tracking services has got me down to 1% an hour standby with my AOD on, and dropping that will probably get you to .7% or so.

Go into settings --> privacy --> Google location history and turn it off. While you're here, might wanna set up auto-delete on some other settings under "see all activity controls", at the very least, for your sanity. Toggling this hasn't affected maps accuracy or Assistant or anything so far except battery. Also under settings --> location --> location services, I've toggled everything but emergency location service off. None of that messes anything important up, and every little bit helps.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MArtyChubbs:
adaptive connectivity services just got an update in the play store.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] therock3181:
Yesh got it yesterday. Let's see if it does anything.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I got it yesterday and haven't noticed anything different
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Abladam989:
Just thought I'd post to say I'm getting about 10h screen on time. My screen off usage is about 1-2% hour
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] orlans21:
Charged up to 80 then got into bed and this is the stand by that I got. What do you guys think?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
That 0.7%/h with the screen off is very good.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
You got a combine of 51+h?! What are you doing for a screen on time of 13 hours? Reading a book? 😆
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] orlans21:
I assumed it was and that was after turning off adaptive connection
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
I'll have to give that a test, both adaptive connection on and off) and try the same thing of unplugging right before going to sleep.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Izy:
Decent
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
Was a chunk of that 17h 51m overnight while you were sleeping?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I've got to set aside time to really see how much battery I can squeeze out of my phone, because it's often idle but I don't feel I'm getting much out of it despite limited use.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Abladam989:
Duplicate*
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Abladam989:
Just wanted to say that this reduced my screen off usage overnight from about 1.4% to about 0.5%!!! Cheers 👍👍
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I'm not sure what to believe at this point. I feel like I should delete AccuBattery or factory reset and start again because 27 sessions is a weird number. It hasn't even been that many days, unless they mean amount of times I've charged since then.

One app says I've gotten 6hrs & 45 min SoT out of the last 36hrs, yet another is saying 7 1/2.

Regardless my SoT doesn't seem very good. Even at 80% there are times it just drains and I have to charge it again by end of day just from the most basic use of text and web browsing.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] EeZeEpEe:
1 session is any time it's off the charger to plugging in. It can be 5 minutes or 50 hours, its one discharge session. Simply put, in the history it's all the red bar entries.

I haven't used GSam in years so I don't remember how accurate it's numbers are but AccuBattery Pro seems very accurate for me. Currently my combined used number estimate is 16h 33m and I have gotten 16-17 hours off the charger on a 100% to 5% day.

The SOT and screen off estimates are maximums. So SOT is 100% total SOT you would get 12h 15m of non-stop screen use. If you charged to 100% and didn't turn on the screen, you would get 76h and 17m of time.

What kind of times are you wanting/expecting? You had a session of 15h 8m off the charger, a 4h 20m SOT, with only 55% used. That's pretty great to me.

That's weird there's a gap between 74% and 66%. What happened there?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] chrizzle30:
I've been using my P6Pro for about a week now and my battery life doesn't typically go below 50% at the end of the day when I charge it. I am not a super heavy user, but I am checking it throughout the day, using apps like Instagram, Pokémon Go, and YouTube from time to time. I replaced a Pixel 5 and it would get down below 50% consistently everyday, so it is definitely an improvement. It does get hotter more often than the 5 which is a little off-putting, but its not setting my hand on fire or anything.

I am bone stock, I have disabled the assistant from listening to me, and actively remove apps I am not using.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I honestly don't know what happened to the gap from 74 to 66. I noticed that upon waking. During that time I was asleep, but somehow that entry was never recorded and data was missing for deep sleep and other info. It's weird.

I guess I'm expecting better numbers from the little time that I use my phone. I'm just now charging my phone 36hrs after a full charge, which is great, but would expect to have actual SoT to be closer to 12hrs the way reports of iPhone 13 pro max users get. You can throw many things at iPhone and it holds up well. I wish pixel would do the same and it bums me out a bit.