yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
have you tried the slim version? it comes with less preinstalled apps. but i install the full version since it comes with everything that a pixel has and then i forget installing apps such as Google maps and then remember it at serious times when i need to use it. for now i am waiting for the bluetooth crash fix that is happening on my device because this rom had the best battery life for me so far
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] ThatLukinhasGuy:
Is this compatible with Moto G7 Power?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I just checked. PE13 is now installed via DSU Sideloader and rooted with Magisk. Haven't tested modules yet. It was like you said, just let the app update itself. I use Magisk Delta instead of official Magisk, but the process is the same.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to have more than one DSU GSI @ the same time.

And no need to use any commands, at least not in my case.

DSU Sideloader always failed on the Samsung stock ROM, not sure why. I read something about them not including the DSU components in their official firmware.

I haven't tried the slim version of PE, I don't think it comes in a plus version. Plus has extra features/options that non plus doesn't have. I'd much use the plus vndklite img, then use root access to delete unwanted apps from the system partition. I know Magisk can do systemless debloat, but I'm old school, I still prefer direct modifications over systemless ones.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
Samsung doesnt have DSU
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Yeah, that explains why the install failed. DSU Sideloader works fine on PE/LOS though.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
how the hell was i able to use it sucessfully on stock one ui 4.1 firmware for this thing then? i have a midranger galaxy A32. you are rooted right..?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Of course I'm rooted. I've never owned an Android device and not rooted it. Root is an absolute must for me.

I can't explain why it worked for you. But I do know that DSU Sideloader doesn't work on my Tab S7+ stock firmware. The app acts like it's installing the GSI, it even gets most of the way through the process. And then, install failed, always. It happened with every GSI I tried.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
wierd. is it running one ui core or normal one ui??
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Normal
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
same here. pretty wierd that it fails.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
Just worth pointing out that if you have to load a GSI to run DSU, then youre basically defeating the purpose of DSU sideloading....in my opinion
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
True....but it is what it is. And you're partly wrong, maybe some users want to run a GSI natively, while using DSU Sideloader to load a secondary ROM. In this case, you should be pointing the finger at Samsung for neutering DSU on some of their firmwares...not users.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i am currently using rice droid 12.1 gsi and using dsu to try other gsi images. i also used this in stock one ui 4.1 worked fine for me
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Now that I've had a taste of GSIs, I'll never be returning to stock firmware. The user experience on a GSI is so much better. There's literally nothing in stock that would make me want to go back. And besides that, I'd like to get out of Samsung's ecosystem, which can be partly done by not running their ROM. They do make good hardware though, as long as I can install a custom ROM and root, I'm happy.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i know right. the stock sucked for this device. although i miss the smoothness no gsi runs smoothly like stock did (latest) old stock was laggy asf. still a better experience
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
The stock firmware for my Tab S7+ doesn't suck, it runs really well, battery life is good. Relatively bug-free, no serious issues that I've encountered. But after awhile I just wanted something different. Soon after I tried my 1st GSI, I knew I wouldn't go back to stock. I flash stock every now and then to upgrade the firmware, but I'm always going back to a GSI.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
oh wow. for mine it does. and im also forced to use an older firmware for gsi's otherwise they lag like hell.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
stock Samsung doesnt have DSU...
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
You're only partly right...The stock samsung ***ROMs*** dont have DSU. But they are booting Rice Droid, a ***CUSTOM*** ROM. For those it should work. I have working DSU in every GSI I've tried, just not ***STOCK*** ROM.

So, what you're saying isn't applicable in their case or mine. If they say it's working for them on stock, just take their word for it. They would have no reason to lie about this.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i dont know whats going on here. my stock firmware One ui 4.1 not any gsi booted gsi via dsu fine when i was trying to find a good daily driver.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SimiNT:
Hi, can you please make a A only android 13 build? It would be much appreciated.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
That's wishful thinking, and not likely to happen with any GSI. Just check out the # of recent A only GSIs, I think you will find very few, if any at all. Sooner or later noone will be releasing A only builds. If I were you, I'd look into buying a newer device that supports A/B GSIs.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
It was a requirement from Google, and noted long before launch, that any device launching with Android 11 have A/B

So the writing has been on the wall for earlier device owners for quite some time

* Mind you Samsung still managed to bork seamless updates
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
my samsung phone somehow running Gsi's. i have heard it has something callee virtual A/B but still doesnt support seamless updates
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
My Tab S7+ supports system as root/dynamic partitioning. And uses a super partition with the system.img located inside that.

I have only one super/system partition, but I'm able to run A/B GSIs.

However, my device doesn't support seamless updates. I'm pretty sure that requires dual system slots. I've never heard of a Samsung device that has dual slots.

According to both Treble checker apps on the Play Store, I can still run ARM64 A/B GSIs regardless, so I should hopefully be able to keep using GSIs for the lifetime of my device. Which in my estimation is 3 yrs min, maybe up to 5 since I take really good care of it. I don't upgrade to the latest and greatest every yr like alot of people, there's just no need to. And my budget is somewhat limited. I buy the best devices I can afford, then make them last as long as possible.

Samsung likes to do things differently than Google and the other Android OEMs. As an example, when Google introduced adoptable storage for MicroSDs, Samsung didn't want to support it on their stock ROMs.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
same here I may be stuck with this phone for more then 3 years. i also heard samsung may finally adopt seamless updates in One ui 5 or 6. my phone aint getting One ui 6. so rip me.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
If they do decide to support seamless updates in future versions of OneUI, it will most likely only be for newly released devices only.

They could push over the air updates that convert the system from single slot to dual slot. But that would probably require partitioning the device, and that's a very risky possibility. At the worst the device could hardbrick, making it useless. Or it could softbrick only, requiring either a firmware reflash or factory reset to fix. Either way it's a risk, and I'm not sure Samsung would be willing to do that for already released devices.

I wouldn't hold out any hope on this.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AndyYan:
"AB" in GSI terms ≠ actual/virtual AB partition layout, mind you all...
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SimiNT:
I was able to install it in my device since it has dynamic partition. But i have a problem with my 5G. It's the only problem I got that I don't know how to fix. Does anyone know a fix for it?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
Did you try going into the network settings and setting it to be 5G? i dont have a 5G supported phone nor sim. but for some gsi's i had to do that to get 4G working.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
wait what
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] SimiNT:
Yes but I only get 4G.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AndyYan:
"AB" in GSI terms is system-as-root. That's why Treble Info is recommended for checking compatibility - 1) it tells you what filename to look for upfront, 2) if such filename scheme doesn't apply (e.g. my builds), it offers some useful guidance instead of adding confusion.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
ooohhh. i didnt know that. yes my device has SAR support. while it may only have an A only slot or virtual A/B. thanks for the info!
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] DavidJoacaRo:
I'm having issues with compressed / distorted mic quality on Samsung Galaxy A71 (SMA715F).

Any recommendations?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Tommy0000:
Thank you! I just udpated and I'm having an issue with the clock on the lockscreen, it has the roboto font and it doesn't do the animation anymore when I plug the phone
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] ssanjeet:
Hello, I have vivo Y11 2019 (vivo 1906), 3+32Gb. I was wondering if I can install the GSI on my device. Thanku
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Tommy0000:
@ponces ok, there are many ui problems that the first alpha didn't had for me.

-As i said the clock on the lockscreen lost its font and animations relatively to the first alpha

-There's a weird problem with the unlocking ripple effect that is slower and uglier

-The ripple effect sometimes activates when you pull down the notification panel and it isn't centered to the screen but it's slightly to the right.

-On landscape the notification panel toggles gets streched instead of adding 2 new columns as per usual (i fixed this with tha phh's patch called 'compatibility max axpect ratio')
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] ponces:
Check latest builds from today on Github!
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rowihel2012:
I love your work

I TRIED latest GSI with mi 11 ultra

Working great

But

Fingerprint

Face unlock

120hz

90hz

No support

Can you fix those ?

Most important high refresh rate support please
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Tommy0000:
Thank you very much! The pretty clock is back 🤩
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] RagaSubekti:
I'm having issues with the latest release, SystemUI freeze/crash, gesture even navigation button are missing, i tried to flash the original rom again and flash the latest pe afterwards and still causing system freeze, any idea? The latest phhuson build is working fine.

Device: Xiaomi Pad 5 (nabu)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] mikefnz:
I appreciate your dedication to checking out Android 12. I think I will stay with PE11 on my Pad 5 for a bit longer!
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] ponces:
Fingerprint (FOD) - it's known not working on A12 and I don't have a device with it so it would be very hard for me to fix it anyway

Face unlock - working on PE11, still not implemented on PE12

Refresh rate - check Andy's reply
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] RagaSubekti:
The one I'm having problem with is the latest build (v400.d)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] kevinygod:
Download mode after of reboot system, I try VNDLite and Slim builds but still not boot :(
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Tommy0000:
@ponces hi! It's me again lol, i've noticed that there are still problems with the unlocking animation. Today i recieved a notification while instagram was open and the whole screen went dark with the start of the unlocking animation (ripple effect). I've never had this problem in alpha builds
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Zainullahk1234:
what are the bugs on a71? does mtp work?

is it stable enough for daily use?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Zainullahk1234:
i am going to try this on a71
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Tommy0000:
I would wait for something specific for samsung phones
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Zainullahk1234:
this works perfectly on my a30s and other people have had success on a71 so im gonna try
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] ponces:
Open an issue here please.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] jhjhjhjhjhjh:
Okay I finally got volte MMS working on these wonderful GSI roms ..

I've enjoyed PE 12 but I want to try PE 13 and no matter which PE 13 version I try to flash I end up boot looping ..

Anyone with a Motorola device get PE 13 to boot??
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] T_Tank:
No dice on g power tonga
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
THANKYOU the new release fixed bluetooth. battery life on pe gsi's is outstanding. switching over right now
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] erkandnz:
İs fod works on latest 13 release
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
not yet
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Bobcus Leper:
Same issue on the Moto G Stylus 2021. PE 13 always bootloops back to recovery. LineageOS 20 works fine though.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] albertordzcz:
same issue on moto edge x30, cant manage to boot
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] jhjhjhjhjhjh:
yr

yeah but lineage 20 has no gapps yet.

Out of all gsi roms the ones that won't boot on any of my Motorola phones.

1 PE13

2.CrDroid13

3.AArow 13

all others boot.

I am on Superior OS 13 till PE 13 gets updated for my device.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AndyYan:
Soon, but don't let that sway you, stick to something you love. Backing up / migrating is a chore.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] jhjhjhjhjhjh:
lol your right about that. Again thank you sooo much for the volte fix in your roms..

You are highly appreciated 👍
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] qwek:
works fine on my old moto z griffin.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
What happened to the PE A13 GSI? All the links I've found point to pages that only have PE A12 builds. Direct link, anyone?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
Book this link, thy master list:

Generic System Image (GSI) list

Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

You can also individually go to

GitHub - ponces/treble_build_pe: Script and patches for building PHH-Treble Pixel Experience

Script and patches for building PHH-Treble Pixel Experience - ponces/treble_build_pe

github.com

Once signed into your own github account, Watch the repo, and you'll get email updates, even just for releases if you like
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I have the GSI master list bookmarked, because I'm always trying out secondary roms in DSU Sideloader. Still haven't settled on one I really like. I'm starting to lean toward building someone else's GSI from their source, for starters. And eventually, creating a private customized ROM of my own for personal use, that would pull from various sources.

My current personal pref for a GSI are the official builds by phhhusson, the vanilla/FLOSS builds in particular (without GApps). I like my roms lean and feel like PE is a bit too bloated. But at least it's solid.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
if I had the hardware i would have myself gotten into building gsi's but it would just take a week to build a gsi on my current hardware. syncing on my slow internet is another thing...
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
You don't really need a super powerful PC to compile GSIs. A faster PC helps speed up the process. As well as a fast cpu, alot of ram, and an ssd. And of course, decent internet for syncing sources from repos.

For starters I'd recommend learning to use Linux. Esp the command line. For which distro, I'd go with Debian, Ubuntu or a derivative of those. I personally use Manjaro Linux (based on Arch) on my desktop PC and my Dell Ultrabook, both dual booting with Windows 10/11.

I've tried my hand at compiling a Samsung kernel before, with mixed results. In one case the kernel was usable and booted the phone. But in most of the other cases, either the building process failed, or it succeeded but wouldn't boot.

If you really want to get into compiling, be ready for a lot of trial and error. If you're the type that gives up easily, then it's not for you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i know what comes once i get into this. but i really need better hardware and internet. because my hard drives are screaming since they are full lmao. and my internet is just... 500 kbps 🥲
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
You must live in Antarctica or something. Alot of 3rd world countries have internet speeds that are faster than that. But it was kinda bad for me when I visited a friend in Cuba a few yrs ago. Over there fast internet is only available in the biggest urban areas. But he lives in the middle of nowhere.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] T_Tank:
V416 booting on jelly 2

Pixel Experience 13.0 v2022.11.13 booting on jelly 2 (will need to test Bluetooth and see if volte works on tmo USA)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Bobcus Leper:
PE 12.1 v416 now bootloops on the Moto G Stylus 2021. v415.1 works just fine.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Looking to get either confirmation or disconfirmation:

With just PE13, Magisk installed, and *NO MODULES* (or all modules disabled), does anyone else get "response payload validation failed" when using a Safety net checker app? Maybe it's just me, could be the ROM. But if I install Shamiko + modded universal safety net fix, it passes. Removing/disabling those makes that message come back.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] lazo41:
Hi, I am using pixel experience 13 with my Xiaomi 11T (Mediatek Dimensity 1200) I live problem with engineer mode. it is not possible to enter it. I tried codes and also applications from play store but I couldn't be successful. I think it is rom related. Cam you help me?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Most so called "dialer codes" will only work on stock ROMs. AOSP ROMs have a few, like a code that lets you see your IMEI. But I'm not aware of any other codes. This engineering mode you mentioned will most likely be accessible on stock only. I'm kind of just assuming that you're trying to use some "secret code" to access a "hidden menu", since that's usually how it would be done.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] felipecassiors:
I don't understand one thing. How do I apply a device overlay in this ROM? I wonder how all these people are claiming that everything is working (how could stuff like auto brightness be working without an overlay?)

Really confused about it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] lazo41:
As you said, the hidden menu in the stock rom is accessed with a keyed combination, and since the volte setting configuration is here, I need to access it.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Maybe you can try the code *#*#4636#*#*. Looks like just a bunch of network related stuff, but there is a mention of VOLTE too. I found that menu by accident, through an app I installed from play store.

If you're just looking to try enabling VOLTE, check the Phh Treble thing in Settings. No guarantees though, VOLTE depends mostly on your device/carrier.

Besides that code and the one for IMEI, I'm not aware of any others. If that menu isn't what you're looking for, then I'd suggest reflashing stock, do what you need to do, then come back to a GSI whenever. What is it exactly that you're trying to accomplish? Be aware that engineering modes are potentially dangerous to play around in, because they're meant for...engineers/developers. not average people. Just be careful what options you change, there could be irreversible effects. Look but don't touch, unless you really know what you're doing.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] lazo41:
In phones sold through official channels in countries, these settings come as presets for that country, but recently, products produced for many different regions are also used in different places. For this reason, some settings must be made by you in order to benefit from the services of your current provider. for this reason i need here for the configuration i have to choose for volte to work.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
That's look pretty advanced. It's def not the networking menu I referenced. Honestly I think you're going to have to revert to stock to make the changes you need, then reflash a GSI when you're ready. The changes might carry over, they might not. You haven't tried using the options in Phh Treble menu to get VOLTE working?

I'm using a Galaxy Tab S7+ 5g, which doesn't support VOLTE. And a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5g that does. The catch is that the models I have are devices imported from Korea to the US. VOLTE should work in their intended home regions, but I've had no luck enabling it with T-Mobile. I don't really care that it doesn't work, it doesn't bother me much. The reason I chose these models is because the Korean models are easy to bootloader unlock, root, and install a custom ROM on. Either way, my signal reception is good everywhere I go, and 5g/4g works. That's really all I care about.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] lazo41:
I made the necessary settings from phh menu. I need these settings to activate the volte. It contains my carrier's settings. Thank you for your interest and help.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Laminesls:
Coool bro i have some device can you helping me to flash it?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] dbjungle:
I used this. https://xdaforums.com/t/information...droid-11-realme-gt-neo.4320611/#post-86629469
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] vassiliszacharis:
Do you know if this particular GSI ROM works on Lenovo tablets? The only one worked for me was leaneage unofficial bgs.img...is it bgs.ing for pixel experience mates 🙂?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Laminesls:
Bro send me how you unlock bootloader and need twrp file for a12 rui3.0 latest plz
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] gr3uh:
hey i am looking for a gsi for my Moto G 5G 2022 (Austin) I am a noob i dont know where to find any that will actually work... the device is a mt6833 MediaTek Dimensity 700 and is on android 12... i'd like maybe an android 13 gsi like pixel experience but have no idea where to start.