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[Google Pixel 6 Pro] benjmiester:
My experience has been pretty good so far. This is about the 3rd day I've used it. I followed a video that suggested a few tweaks. Nothing that limits functionality.

Eagle eyes might spot the "111 apps restricted".... I manually put any non essential apps into restricted background optimization and restricted background mobile data usage. My bet is Google learns how to do this automatically mover time, hence the improving battery over time. But I decided to just take 20 mins and do it myself to be sure. Also force stopped and cleared cache on things that weren't supposed to be open. Lots of apps randomly were.

I still have music ID on, 5G for me is on by default (I use Red Pocket Mobile at&t based MVNO network coverage and there's no toggle for me in settings). Smooth display, hotword detection and lift to wake on. I'm also using the AodNotify LED notification app but only on for texts, FB messenger, calls, and Gmail. 1 minute screen timeout. Haptics about 75% up.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] MrBelter:
Proximity sensor.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
The phone doesn't optimize apps at all. It simply stops apps from running in the background that it finds that are seldom used, but these apps are stopped anyway when the phone is in standby, it is why they introduced doze mode and notifications became delayed. It will help when apps are constantly chatting on the network and you are using your phone for something else, but unless you are installing some very dodgy apps, most apps these days are well behaved, and the ones that aren't show up in battery stats and we will kill them anyway. :)

Google phones also result in delayed notifications (except high priority, i.e. chat messages, and even then only so may per application), this is because a few minutes after not using your phone it goes into doze mode (light doze they call it), where it stops everything until set maintenance windows. They do this as it is more efficient to batch up all the apps so they do their data fetching etc at the same time, and the longer you go without using your phone, the longer the gap between maintenance windows.

Loads of good info here: https://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
Just to add, most devices have these and they are always on and you will see them via a camera as they can pick up infra light that our eyes don't see. Their power usage is negligible. They are on all the time so the phone knows if it is in a pocket or case etc.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
How were you able to restrict mobile data background usage? The system only allows optimized setting, and everything else is grayed out.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] benjmiester:
I went in through apps > see all apps > mobile data & wifi then disable background data for each but also restricted battery optimization too. It's a little tedious but only have to do it once. Really could be done just per app that's causing a problem for most people, if they discover which one is the culprit. I figured why not do everything that doesn't have important notifications or functionality involved.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] DinarQ8:
I got 5:20h SOT for 24h. I don't know if that good or to much drain
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I understand how you got there but in the image I posted I don't have the option to change anything.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
The only correct answer is "it depends".

It depends on your usecase, how many apps are running in the background, are you using bluetooth, GPS, 5G, what is your climate (temperature, does your phone need to warm/cool itself?), do you have a case that might block reception and increase background draw, how bright does your display need to get, are you uploading from apps whilst being under mobile connection...

There are so many factors to battery life, it's almost ridiculous to try and compare any two devices, simply because only very few tests have safe and fixed measurement criteria.

It's also difficult to judge peoples expectations and battery life times in the first few days/weeks - people tend to like to play with their new toys around. Their usage will usually differ and slow down significantly, so someone that might be like "muh phone only lasts 20 hours!" might be surprised that a month later, the phone will last him more than a full day. Not because the phone did anything different, but simply because his usecase changed. Especially these "I need to take 50 photos! And do 10 videos to see if everything checks out! And I need to watch 20 HDR 4K max brightness videos to test my display" thing-y-s are hard to wager, if that person then comes and says "muh me only 5 hours SoT, phone so bad, my Huawei can do 8!" (whilst his Huawei only does 10 photos a day, 1 video a week and no HDR content because all the big Youtube channels only do SDR; lol). Well, then, we learn the humans are subjective creatures and it's hard to trust their reviews/opinions, simply because most do not think about fixed measurement criteria.

Aka: They want to compare apples to bananas, which never works out well.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] DinarQ8:
You are right

The Bluetooth and GPS enable all time. I use the phone for browser, Snapchat, Whatsapp, Youtube 2-3 video in day. Brightness auto

Anyway i happy with the battery
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] funnycreature:
Battery life seems to be great for what I'm using my phone for. It is almost twice as good as it was on my Samsung S9+. Below is a screenshot at the end of my 2nd day, just before going to bed. The next day (today), I charged it just after noon when it had dropped to 12%. So far it is great!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] benjmiester:
I see. That's pretty strange. It's like there's some kind of dynamic settings going on, for whatever unknown reason. I don't have any 5G settings options on mine. It's just on. I do have a 2G toggle though lol. Must be some at&t MVNO (reseller) network specific usage case thing. I know there's a small difference in Verizon models because of mm wave 5G, where others don't have that. But that's about all I'm aware of.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] beanhead2112:
So I'm having battery issues with any apps that I would imagine would sit in the background but aren't able to....Pocketcasts ran for 5 hours in the foreground and drained 22% battery.

Has anyone else had this? Spotify and podcasting apps don't seem to run in the background on either the P6P or Android 12!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I don't have toggles to switch between 5G, 4G or below on my phone either and I'm on at&t. I've read reports of different phone models having that option, and I believe it depends on your carrier or where you bought the phone from as well.

I just want my mobile network standby to stop using my battery so much. I've never had that issue on my other phones.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Napa7m:
Mine is pretty much the same.

I'm going from 100% charge to dead in a hot (literally, get's warm to the touch just browsing webpages) 12hours with very light use.

It didn't want to update automatically for some reason, so I just sideloaded the Nov update, hopefully that somehow snaps this thing out of the funk it is in.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I'm really tempted to go to Samsung because of this battery nonsense but I feel so damn loyal to pixel lol. I know I could root and install custom roms for Samsung but idk how much more difficult it is due to potential lockdowns of bootloader they may impose
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] android_dan:
Same here on Att also. One thing I did do was update my sim card. Mine was 5-7 years old. I was getting spotty speeds, especially on 5G e, like 10 mgs down. After updating I'm at 80+.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Do you have to get a new sim card? I just updated my plan today after a good 10 years I think lol. I was on a dinosaur plan back when carriers did away with unlimited but I was grandfathered in at the time, and just got a new one with 5G and HBO. I'm thinking of maybe getting an esim this time.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] android_dan:
No I didn't HAVE to. I was getting a signal, but finding myself stuck on 5G and the poor speeds I did a little reading. What I found out was while a older sim card might access 5G, it wouldn't be optimized to use it properly.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
Makes sense. I'll look into getting both a new one and an esim. Thanks for the info.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
This thread makes me chuckle. Great entertainment. I have fantastic battery. How about yours? Let me show you my stats.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I don't think this is very good honestly
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Pachacouti:
I'd like to chip in with a handy hint. If you have battery problems, and dont use anything much, look at running services. See the optimisation SERVICE that runs constantly? Nuff said.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I don't have an optimization service running at all and battery drain is ridiculous. I've lost 30% in 5hrs with nothing but light web surfing and IM chat, both sporadically. This is something I'd expect on my retired pixel 2XL device, not something brand new that's been idle most of the time
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] nuevosean:
Unrooted here. Was going to bed with 30% left the first few days with moderate use. Now it's averaging more like 40‰. For comparison, I was usually going to bed with 50-60% left on my LGV60 (best battery life of any phone I've had) with similar use. Seems like the battery stats just needs time to settle in. It's not great but it's far from bad considering the capabilities. I'm happy with it over all.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
Just done some comparisons with overnight battery drain compared to an aging Pixel 2 XL. Both on borderline 4G signal on the same network, same apps and settings, they show the same -114 db signal. Both phones showed the same deep sleep time when I checked this morning, give or take 5 minutes.

The Pixel 2 XL is averaging 0.2% per hour loss, and the Pixel 6 Pro is averaging 0.7% (as shown by Accubattery), so over 24 hours 16.8% of power on the Pixel 6 Pro is spent just keeping a network connection to the cell tower and nothing else, compared to a Qualcomm modem from 2017 which only needs 4.8%.

Now keep in mind that is percentage of power lost based on battery capacity. The Pixel 6 Pro has an extra 1480MAh in capacity over the Pixel 2 XL, so over 24 hours the Pixel 6 Pro will have used 840mA just connected to a mobile network, whereas the Pixel 2 XL only uses up 169mA. Now this a huge difference in just maintaining a standby connection to the mobile network, so imagine the differences in power drain when that connection is being actively used!

Conclusion from me, the Samsung 5123 modem is very inefficient (no wonder the Pixel 6 Pro turns into a hand warmer when on 5G), compared to a Qualcomm modem from 2017, which presumably Qualcomm have been improved upon since.

So we have an inefficient modem chip. Now also factor in that the Samsung Exynos/Tensor chip is already known to be less efficient compared to a similar Qualcomm chip (many tests online showing this as the exact same phones from Samsung exist but with different SoCs for the US and elsewhere so can be tested easily against each other), all means these flagship devices from Google are just wasting power. Google should have chosen to go with Qualcomm and left the Tensor branding exercise for another decade, as clearly it wasn't in the interests of producing the best product they could, it was all about marketing. Even the Magic Eraser which was promoted as something only Googles special Tensor could do, easily works on much older devices.

So for this reason, I feel like branding has won over common-sense and good engineering, so I'm returning it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Beware. A year and a half ago my wife and I went from our Pixel 1s to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB, because Google hadn't yet come out with a Pixel that had 512 GB of storage (a must for me without a MicroSD slot). We hated them. The hardware's great (except the in-screen ultrasonic fingerprint reader was slower than the optical one on the P6P), but the software was unreliable, janky compared to Pixel, and I hope to never go back to Samsung again. We had loved our Galaxy S3s, so I thought they wouldn't be too bad.

We're so glad to be back on Pixels.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] benjmiester:
That's very interesting. It makes me wonder if the reason my standby seems reasonable is the fact that I'm on Red Pocket Mobile, which while technically I'm using their At&t based network option (they offer all 4) it's HEAVILY throttled. So while I'm on 5G it's barely even 3G+ I'd say. In fact... This is the best I've pulled down on it in a speed test:

Hot garbage as far as 5G is concerned.

My point there is maybe the drain is minimal for me because it's very low throughput after all of the throttling. A bit like cruising around in a Bugatti Chiron at 5% throttle all day.

Speaking of battery, here's an update on today's usage. It's been excellent so far. Hearing some of the stories I almost feel like an asshole posting lol but we need these comparisons to try and nail stuff down. Maybe there's some bad units out there? I'd certainly try swapping once or twice before going to another phone that might suck to use long term. The UI and general experience on this thing is just a joy IMO.

3.5 hrs sot and 64% left
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] combat goofwing:
Still having great battery life ,deep sleep over night and even when in use , regularly getting over 6 hrs SOT without even trying
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Jeroen1000:
@PhilipL2021 I like the testing you did. 0.2% is very low though. The lowest I have been able to get ever (on multiple OP phones and a Poco F1) is 0.4%/hour on a good connection (around 80 dB) 0.7% is rather high though. And I monitor this stuff OCD style so I like to believe I did it thoroughly.

Are you US based? Still wondering if the mm wave stuff has something to do with it. Also are you going to switch to 'plain' pixel 6?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
1% drain in 9 hours over night and 93% deep sleep. Perfectly happy with this battery so think I'll stop checking now and just enjoy using it
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Jeroen1000:
@skimminstones same question here. Are you on a device that supports mm wave? Also not that I don't believe you but that number is abnormally low. I would double check haha
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] foobar66:
Same here ... pretty happy so far with battery (and I generally don't do very detailed checking). Only charging is very slow (especially compared to OnePlus).
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] skimminstones:
Yea although I don't use 5g as have no signal where I live, always on 4g or wi-fi.

What's to double check? I took it off charge at 100% at 10pm and opened it up at 7am and it showed 99% battery and cpu spy said 93% deep sleep.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] leegreg81:
I've never understood why the Facebook app is 300MB when installed.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] leegreg81:
I highly doubt A12 is inferior to EMUI, which is one the worst overlays out there.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] leegreg81:
I don't really understand why most people need 5G at this stage of its rollout.

Perhaps because I'm yet to find somewhere I can get signal but I get like 30-40Mbps on 4G, which I would consider to be ample bandwidth for a single user.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] cd993:
Switching to GSM/WCDMA/LTE (PRL) has helped me out. Battery performance is really good now as the result
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
All I see is 1hr 8m of SoT, and the rest is close to 8hrs for deep sleep,.under the discharging tab. It would be cool to see the actual SoT from all day and not just since waking up.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] combat goofwing:
If you check further back in the thread you will see I posted full battery use and stats ,point I was making is deep sleep is good ,and to be off charge for nearly 12 hrs ,have over an hour SOT and good deep sleep stats through night then the battery can be excellent I suppose it depends on set up
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
It is showing 0.3% an hour now on the Pixel 2 XL, but has been on Wi-Fi as well. The Pixel 6 Pro is now showing 0.8% per hour when screen is off, so that is a few more hours data.

I was connected to a 4G cell in the UK, so no mmWave here.

The Pixel 2 XL often goes 5 or 6 days if it gets light use between charges, which had happened quite a bit during lockdowns, so those 0.2-0.3% an hour on a 4 year old lithium battery do seem to match real world usage.

What exactly is causing the extra power drain in the Pixel 6 Pro I'm not sure, but certainly the Samsung 5123 modem is no match for the optimisations in the Qualcomm SoCs, where now in the 888 the modem is fully integrated, so will be designed with every optimisation possible.

I'm leaving Pixel's behind me, I'm currently waiting on a Xiaomi 11, this will be the first time I've not had a Pixel or Nexus in many, many years. Generally I liked the clean pure Android experience, but then I end up putting Nova on there so don't use the stock launcher anyway. Android 12 isn't a better UI experience in my view, and every time I compare the inky blacks of the OLED panel on my old phone running 11 as I navigate settings etc, then see the LCD retro light bleed affect on the Pixel 6 Pro, I wanted to throw it at a Google designer and say "What were you thinking?". The years that we've wanted a proper black/dark theme on OLED and Google resisted, then eventually introduced, now they are slowly lightening it again!

I'll quote a line from the Anandtech review on the Tensor that helps everyone work out where the power is going:

"In the aggregate scores, the Tensor / GS101 lands slightly worse in performance than the Exynos 2100, and lags behind the Snapdragon 888 by a more notable 12.2% margin, all whilst consuming 13.8% more energy due to completing the task slower."
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] combat goofwing:
Here were my final stats with 20% battery left from a few days ago
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Jeroen1000:
@PhilipL2021 Probably am going to try a Pixel 6 (definitely not the pro) and hope battery life is as least as good as on my OP7T.

Only the Pixels (and the Snapdragon for Snapdragon insiders from Asus) support that many LTE/5G bands. Something I can really appreciate.

If only I liked iOS...See you next year with a Pixel 7:) you know you want one!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] pa.pn2:
How do you guys get exactly stats?

For me it doesn't count after charging on Android 12
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] henihazbay:
Counting hour by hour
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] pa.pn2:
For me it just shows the last 24h
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Allan_Hun:
Anyone remember the early LTE enabled phones? They had external lte modems with awful low efficiency. Second generation lte phones had lte integrated in soc -improving efficiency a lot.

The Samsung modem in p6p is not integrated in soc -So it's logical that it consumes more power vs a soc integrated modem.

+Samsungs 5nm process node actually consumes more power than tsmc 7nm node!

+ cortex X1 is arms performance first -efficiency less important core. So using 2x X1 obviously sacrifice battery life (and without proper cooling throttling drops performance anyway....)

+A76 is slow and less efficient compared to A78. Some people defend googles decision to use A76 due to area saving -But A78 area is only 10% bigger than 76.

So google obviously made some pretty bad decisions causing low efficiency without truly high performance :-(
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] louie875:
Mobile Network Standby was absolutely hammering my battery, using like twice as much battery as my screen was over the course of using all 100% of the battery. I have just changed to 4g only and turned off 'Mobile Data Always Active' in developer settings and have noticed a significant increase in battery life straight away and the phone being much much cooler.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] RetroTech07:
I just wish Google was smarter I'm their choices. It pains me that they're using an inefficient modem causing battery drain, when the rest of the phone is great, imo. Now that they're aware folks are having battery drain issues, I hope it's something they can fix via s/w update.

That hasn't changed anything for me. I don't have an option to switch connections on my device for some reason. Some users on at&t can, but others can't. I'm not sure why this is. Mobile network standby is a big battery hog on mine as well.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] louie875:
Is it not available in the developer options? Literally a game changer for me, battery drain has massively decreased!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] undac:
I recently went from Hyperdragon III series to another ROm and all is well except the first splash/boot screen which still says Hyperdragon.

Is there a complete package (ie "flasher" and default boot screen in one) that I can download somewhere?

I tried searching the forums but all I find are custom ones. I just want to go back to the old HTC one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nhatt:
Default boot screen from TyTN_II,you try in attached file
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
Search and Check The Wiki!

You Should know that.

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[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] byproxy:
So I have a SanDisk 256GB Ultra USB 3.0 Flash Drive that I want to use with my 4kMax firestick. But the stick won't recognize the drive. I have the same SanDisk drive in 128GB that works just fine in the firestick but this 256GB won't. It's formatted in Fat32 so I have no idea what the problem is. I've read other folks using drives larger than 128GB just fine so I'm confused as to why I'm having issues.

Any help much appreciated. Thanks!
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] byproxy:
So... on a whim I plugged in a USB hub and the drive works now. I have no idea why a hub is necessary to make the drive work but it's working so I guess all good. Thanks!
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sus_i:
If it worked on a powered USB HUB, it's maybe a power issue!?

The sticks power supply is a bit weak.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] johnn.:
Can the stock calculator, notes app etc from the samsung s6 be added to the samsung s10?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] Gregbmil1:
Not sure, but the worst that could happen is get "App Not Installed" message. Get an apk extractor from the Play Store and try it out. Upload it to Google Drive then download it with the S10.

Im leaning towards it not working but it might since it's a Samsung app and a Samsung phone
[General Questions and Answers] vu ha:
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[General Questions and Answers] UnlockCode.Net:
write English for understanding your problem:)
[General Questions and Answers] Deleted member 1890170:
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[Samsung Galaxy A3, A5, A7 (2017) Questions & Answe] hoos32:
Hi,

i have a mic problem when i do a visio call in Android 11, but its work fine in normal call, mic record or video recording.

i have the same problem with all app (whatsapp, FB messenger, ...) it persist always on loudspeaker is activated.

i dont have this problem on Android 10.

I saved many logs when i use facebook messenger with camera with my A5 2017 Android 11 , maybe some one please can help me please.

Thank you
[General Questions and Answers] d0g:
My mom needs to export a ton of SMS messages to a text file.

There are plenty of shady looking apps that do this, but they require permissions to contacts/SMS/storage, which I am reluctant to give to an unknown dev.

Does anyone know of a "trustworthy" (prefer open source) way to do this?

Is there an SMS client (like Textra/Handcent) that has export to text?

Thanks!