yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
It is probably related to screen resolution since many controls are drawn outside the screen. I have no idea otherwise as you seem to be the only one with this problem. Please try the latest CAB file (in the first post) and report back.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] _Ka:
I've the same problem, when I start Gecko (the newest relase), is says me io exceptions. (I've it on my hermes, wm5 Italian rom)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tatnai:
works on my HTC vogue, sprint, running omj bell 3.09 custom with M2D. Can't see bottom right button from inside each item though (download button?). Need to be able to chose download spot. Looks great, strong work!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
he already mentioned that he left the download button out and that the UI will be accomplished accordingly with time.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Draque:the_Plaque:
Works fine on my Diamobd in Portrait Mode.

In Landscape the scrollbars are at a wron position but i think this will change soon.

Great Job.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
One think I've noticed is the kinetic scrolling in most apps doesn't happen in the main form, but does in the item details etc.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
lol. someone asked me if it's possible to implement PhysX to mobile phones.

korazie.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
What I'm talking about is HTCs TouchFlo finger scrolling, not a brand new physics engine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
oh no no... i know.. i was just saying that someone asked me about it. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
The info page is a PIE wrapper, so it works with TouchFlo (and it creates more problems than anything).

As for the error, I think it might be related to your device's language. What's the exact error message? is it a full screen message or a message box? What are the buttons? Yes/No or Ok?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shadowmike:
testing this on my juno standard smartphone. had to fix the cab to install on my 6.1

also im going to go out on the limb and say that you strictly designed this for ppc. because normally i can run all ppc aps on my phone no problem just cant touch the screen as i have a standard wm6 phone. but as soon as i run the program it errors.

Ive been following this thread and hoping it would also work for us standard users.

Possibly a standard version after the pro version is complete ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
No, it's normal. It's stated that it's not supposed to support smartphone devices in the help file. However if it doesn't work on a Hermes, something's wrong.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
Not to add more to the list but landscape is not supported.....

Buttons need fixed (no text.... ex "download")

flat out running a search for me (not just tapping in the center of the screen caused an error)

But hey it downloads apps and lists them.... so its a success so far :)

yay yay yay!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shadowmike:
@ N1c0 : I see no help file but thanks for the reply.

As i stated in last post. Any plans for a standard release ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
hehe. it would be pretty much pointless to develop an application and not release it as at least one final edition no? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
THIS IS A BETA

haha help file......... -lmao-
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tilleke:
N1c0_ds:

you should be able to compile for smartphones as well. Just look in the Basic4PPC-documentation or on the forum. Basic4PPC supports smartphones.

As to your development, you should, in your next releases, take into consideration various screen-resolutions/layouts since there are many devices out there (and potential users of this app). Me for instance is using a Samsung i780 with a square-screen (320x320).

just my 5 cents...

Rgds,

tilleke
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
N1c0_ds, i created another design. If you want to use the bottom bar like iphone, the space will be smaller, so I used buttons.

Great job though ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mugglesquop:
just noticed you have a 'Top 10' button, were you thinking most download/highest reviews etc?

i presume your database will incorporate this... :)

Looks like a good project, keep it up!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] red_hanks:
-wrong post- sorry-
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] red_hanks:
Hi, I have tried it and I got this error
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sinoo:
This is what I got... ;-(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mike1002:
Is that a 240x320 screen?

Im getting that same error on my square screen, probably due to the fact that it cant render the graphics correctly.

Mike.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
this is fine. the UI is not yet applied.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Hmm...

Can you find Gecko.dll? This might be the problem. I really don't understand why that's happening.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Try adding this file to the Gecko folder and tell me if it works.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] alexsandros:
i can help with the graphics as i am a graphic designer, i will start it 2morrow.. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ather:
it could be because of a corrupt CAB, please re-download and test
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gtxaspec:
To be honest, I think the concept of this program is great, but the manner of execution is wrong.

The reason package manager's in linux have flourished is because they are open source, extremely flexible, and no one person or group has control of the repositories.

For example, APT, the debian package manager uses a configuration file called sources.list . In this file you list "source" servers which hold listings about programs available, and links pointing to the download repositories.

An example sources.list file would contain the following repository information:

deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ etch main

You can then install programs by using the command line "apt-get install program1"

Now if you wanted to install "program2" and the "program1" repository did not contain this program, you would add the following to the configuration file:

deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ etch main2

and then you would be able to install "program2".

If this program was structured with this concept, I believe it would be much more attractive to developers, because no submission would be required. A user would only be required to add the specific repository to the configuration file ( or in a dialog within the program in this case ), which the program's developer's could host using a standard webserver. No bandwidth tax on the maintainer of this program, only to the developer hosting the program. Personally, I believe the biggest draw back to the App Store is the required submission of the program's details, which could lead to some programs being added, others not. Likewise with Android's Marketplace.

I understand the need to receive income from a development project, but I would be further inclined to donate if the goal of this project migrated towards the concept which I have outlined here.

I believe it would be a great benefit to the community. We could learn a thing or too from the App Store fiasco and the package managers used in linux.

Just a thought.

P.S. : Nico, great job on the program so far. Hopefully in the future it can be open source for everyone to take part in it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] red_hanks:
Well, same error. I have downloaded the cab file couple of times and re-installed it over and over but same error. I have checked the gecko.dll and it is there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
Try this cab ...

http://www.mediafire.com/?jwmmmt2zjmt
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
new one works fine on touch dual... wm6.1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] red_hanks:
Anyone who has a BA and have tried this???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sinoo:
Ok then...

But... Can you tell me where the files will be stored on my device?

Will there be the option to give a own folder?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
They're downloaded and installed in one operation - and the file is deleted after this. It would be good to have a "save as" option though.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] phr0z:
hello, i installed this on my Qtek 9100 running WM6.1 but it seems that the GUI is not working properly and when i do the search function theres never results
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] l3v5y:
In what way is the GUI not working? (as some of the previous posts have shown/explained, the UI is not complete yet.)

The lack of results may be caused by a lack of data connection, or some other mysterious error - try reinstalling, and running it again when connected to the internet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
THIS IS WRITTEN IN COLOR SO YOU WONT MISS IT

since many people are asking about the GUI.

it is NOT COMPLETE

you CANT see buttons yet, but the results should be fine and you SHOULD be able to download and install.

cheers.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lennie:
this is a good idea, I love the idea, I've been thinking about it for a really really long time and its nice to see someone actually getting work done :).

First impressions: on first start up the abundance of of blue, not that there's anything wrong with blue, but that kind of blue almost kicked my retina's ass, I had to close my eyes really fast. lol. just play. I know the UI isn't even close to what it will be in the 1.0 realease.

it works: seaching works, selecting a program, the download and install works.

few pointers:

**when I search for a program and it is displayed, the program doesn't seem to follow the normal WM UI "framework"; I can't scroll with the scroll bar, I have ftouchsl installed and I can't scroll with my finger, etc.

**don't know what base it is using to download the app info/app but It seems to be MobileIE's, of it is I really don't think thats a good idea. After I select a program I would want to download and the app info is download that is when the gecko starts to adhear to the normal wm "windowing system". I think gecko should look more like an RSS reader, where the info and pic of the app is downloaded as soon as the user searchs for an application and gecko finds it.

**Give the user options: a way to specify where to download a program to, instead of automaticaly putting it to main memory (some user might have very small device memory left.)

**shine up gecko

good effert though, really good.

I hope to make it one of my CORE APPS :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] artkrime:
this sounds awesome, can't wait to try it out!! keep up the good work
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Sorry for the silence, I have internet problems (my father had the brilliant idea to install the modem at the other end of the house) so I couldn't really work on a fix. I didn't upload the file but lost the connection right after my post was saved.

AS FOR THE WEBSITE:

The whole mobile website is ready to be attached to the domain name. I have no networking skills but the webpages are ready. There's info, download links and a shoutbox.

I worked on a few fixes but I still have some big problems:

-The control I use to display the application info needs to be replaced by something more convenient. However it's hard to do anything that will blend with the UI. I'd say it's the root of all challenges in Gecko for now.

-I really don't know how to fix this stupid IOException problem. Try the file in the zip attached above (move it to the Gecko folder) and tell me if it works. Sadly, it's the same file that blocks NetCF 3.5 compatibility.

Also (for the last time)

THIS IS JUST A TEST UI, I KNOW IT'S FUGLY
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joel2009:
just hit search without typing anything in the search box to get the full list of programs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
As I said earlier, this is the basic core. There's no UI, no functions, no buttons. This is where I decide how the system works, nothing else.

For Core 3.1, I'll change the info control from a PIE frame to something cooler. It's not as easy as it sounds. I'd like to make my own contol but I can't figure how I could possibly do that. A non-editable textbox is another option but it would remove any formatting HTML offers.

Other changes include improved stability, saving CAB files to other locations (maybe in 3.2) and other miscellany.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tilleke:
Have you added error-handling to your program? You could also add a simple log-function where you record actions taken by the user/program.

Being a very early release and in addition you are writing an application to be used by many users with different devices and user-configurations, I think error-handling and a log-function can be very useful for you. In case of problems, you can ask the user who is having problem to send you the log-file.

Good luck,

Tilleke
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Driskol:
Hi guys!

Ballmer is copying the Idea: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/11/08/microsoft-working-on-app-store-like-software-distribution

But im sure, that will be better bcuz we will have a lot of repositories with our own apps.

Cheers and keep working, this will be big!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] easysofts:
Hi,

very good idea to install the directory on phone (like iphone) :)

I created last year a similar idea in French, but I stopped in the meantime (webfr.mobi is offline).:(

I had actually done the same project based on Freeglobes (php) visible on any mobile running on WM5 or WM6, in vga or QVGA (php mysql css and html).

but as I did not know how to encode and create .cab file,

have you thought to integrate all these features about your project :

- put on each page buttons "back"

- a multilingual version (at least for the categories and descriptions)

- user can leave a comment on the product page with a note

-sort results and categories by : date / download / comment / type of display / resolution

-Making the display compatible with all screen (VGA, QVGA wqva) and specify it in the form of product page.

even if Microsoft has intends to launch his platform one day, your idea will always be better because easily evolutionary. Then you do not discourage.:)

if you need help in php, mysql, design, translation etc ..I have free time these days.;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I know about the WinMo appstore, but I really doubt Microsoft will get something so blatantly obvious right. I do not fear their product because it will cost developers money, it won't be supported by the community, so no tweaks, no open source and no quick updates.

Gecko will also allow you to choose your database (leaving room for an XDA database, for instance) and even choose your client (if developers want to make their own). Once the database model is finalized, I'll show you how it works so you can help me or work on your own client.

-I won't include language until the final version.

-There was a back button on both previous cores and there will be one on the more complete versions too. I just quickly assembled something you can put your hands on while I keep working on another version (and play video games)

-I have no idea of how I will work out comments and ratings. I will need a better way to display my info first.

-Sorting results is easy by category but by CatID is different. This is something I'll work on for Core 3.1. Adding a boolean field for each resolution could be a way to do it. You would then have to get compatible applications by only selecting those that support your device's resolution.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kyrou:
IOException problem solved with file in post 265

copy paste the file in gecko's folder , and get rid of the io exception!

works on my trinity WM6

Thx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] easysofts:
Ok,

It's a very good idea to include option to choose the database.

I'll wait as the base model is finalized for know the specification ...

you can simply, at first, allow ratings without comments (with a simple system based on cookies or ip of the user, I don't know if it's possible with ip mobile)

Ideally, the user is automatically identified with his useragent (but how to use it for your application?), But the easiest would be to leave the choice to the user by an option visible to the homepage (screen, wm version)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
www.getgecko.org is online. It's formatted for small screens.

I put a nice "thinkbox" here so you can submit ideas in a chat-like screen. The download link is down since the build is no more up to date.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
The first post was updated, changes were made to the applications, things were added and everything is going well. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I had some time to work on Gecko this weekend and used it to change many things.

-The info page doesn't use a Pocket IE frame anymore.

-I added a splash screen/loading page at application launch.

-I now draw controls at runtime, making launch much, much faster.

-I drastically improved support for various resolutions. So far the only thing left to fix is the listing of applications. The rest should work with all resolutions.

-The search bar will also launch a search when you press the select button or enter.

-Two new applications were added to the database

-Improved general compatibility

There are a few things left to be worked on, but things are going pretty well so I should be able to pull out Core 3.1 soon enough.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mugglesquop:
new Beta works well on Diamond :)

seems a very fast and light app.

could i suggest u put a 'Back' button on the website :)

Keep up the excellent work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chrisaroz:
Just tried to download via the site and got a File Not Found error...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wytecaztle:
it installed correctly when I launch all I get is a search box.....:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I took the beta offline on the website to save server space since the testing period is over. I am well aware of the problems and fixed most of them already.

Yes, you should only see a textbox, no problem there! This is a very basic tech demo of the app so no bells and whistle for now. Core 3.1 should change a few things so you might want to try it once it's released.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Updates, updates, updates!

-Application now deals with offline devices with a notification instead of a crash. A notification allows me to link to "More help" and "Report dead link" subs since it supports HTML.

-Fixed some stability issues

-Tested it in landscape for the first time. There's work left to be done, but it's already much better!

Right now it's entirely functional but not all features are ready. I have 2 days off this week so I might have a few more hours to work on this. Expect a second core release soon enough.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mp.goldfinger:
I think I can help u with Hosting I have my own host. but from Jan Im going to change to a new package so pm me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CONCEPTVILLAIN:
Yes This Is A Great Idea... Il Come Back To Check From Time To Time And See The Development.

:d
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zeheres:
It's awesome. Where can I grab it from?

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
It's not out yet, but you can beta-test it if you want. A new beta release will be online soon.

A few updates:

-Working on screen resolution support. QVGA landscape is almost done but I need to add a few things to support VGA. Next release will be ForceQVGA again.

-Fixed a few things, again

-Added a back button!

-On-device error reporting (not yet complete)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zeheres:
Okay, I'll do so :) Let us know when it's done!

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
GetGecko.org is back online and it's freakin' nice!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] baj_oz:
Fantastic idea, this has the potenial to be the best mobile apps around.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bennyj71:
I have your cab installed, but I can't download anything. Are you still working on this or do we go to getgecko.org to download the apps? I appreciate your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Umm... check your connection?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zeheres:
I couldn't download any stuff either. Been stuck at the searching process :/

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
What happens exactly?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] edi:
hey guys,

very interesting project,

today i flashed my kaiser and now i'll give gecko a try.

if you need help on developement, just drop a line,

i'm student of computer-sciene and specialised on web-developement (PHP/MySQL) but also familiar with .net

perhaps you need some knowledge

so just write ;)

bye andré
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bennyj71:
Ok, when I run the Gecko program, I go to your site where this is a search box and the search button. I read some earlier post where someone mentioned to just hit the search button. When I do that there is a list of apps. When I select an app, there is brief description on the app and either a picture or a download link. I can't tell because it doesn't load up. There is no other button however to download anything. This goes for every app.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
Click the black rectangle at the bottom right corner. This has been said before. As for the picture, yeah, it never loads.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
I added a software submission form on the website. Just go there and submit your apps instead of using PMs like before :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bennyj71:
How bout that! It worked. I have a question though: I have never seen this before so I need to find out if this a glitch or a bug. When I started DL. A meesage popped-up stating that my phone was gonna attempt to connect to the internet(I have an ATT Tilt ,btw). The wierdness was that the DL progress bar was inside the notification bubble. Then as the DL progress the progress bar moved back and forth right to left. My DL was a success but I was worried because of the jumping of the bar. I am impresssed with all your efforts, I will enjoy where you're able to bring this app. I really don't Apple Iphone!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] N1c0_ds:
When it's downloading, it does show a page for loading. This is part of the application.

I don't know about the progress bar, though. Could you provide a screenshot? Maybe it's exclusive to the Tilt.

PS: There is a chance of a possible alliance with FreewarePocketPC.net this has advantages and disadvantages and you are invited to vote on the issue at Getgecko.org
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] YellowGTO:
Idea

Just and idea for your bandwith. If you could make this work on a torrent type platform you could get rid of needing so much bandwith. I think later on in the project it might get a bit crazy.