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[Touch HD General] fhsieh:
There isn't really a thread for the XD, namely because we don't know of any Touch "XD". So far it's just a presumed name for whatever next big device might be making, particularly because HTC hinted at a new device when it annouced the HD would not appear in the US.

Of course shortly after that announcement, the HTC T8290 was leaked, and so there are some quick assumptions that the T8290 = Touch XD.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=435096

But again the XD doesn't really exist (yet?). And the T8290 adds WiMAX, which means it's unlikely to appear Stateside anytime soon (at least not until Sprint launches more WiMAX markets); therefore the T8290 probably is not the so-called XD.

All in all, there really isn't any information, except for what little information Mobile-Review "spilled", so everything is purely up to speculation for now.
[Touch HD General] tboy2000:
Sorry because orb3000 wrote "Already a thread of this" i read it as already a thread ON this". My mistake.
[Touch HD General] iphone_fan:
Someone did say that news on HD will b old news bcoz some cool stuff is coming. But an HD with WiMAX is not cool as many countries does not have WiMAX yet. And it seems like it doesn't come with 3.5mm jack.

So does anyone think it is cool stuff ? Cold stuff may be.

T8289, to me, is just Touch Diamond with large screen and WiMAX. That's all.
[Touch HD General] Pawel062:
trust me on this. nothing too much better is planned. thats all im saying. atleast not until a bit into 09.
[Touch HD General] nin2thevoid:
Agreed. The HD is currently the most interesting WinMo thing to come from HTC, as it is an edition of the Diamond that goes quite a way to show that occasionally, HTC DOES listen to customers. When they come out with a device that does Not have some of the most important HD features and is targeted at only some specific markets (the selling point being WiMax ofcourse) I'd hardly call it "the device that makes the HD pale in comparison", or even a more advanced device to begin with.
[Touch HD General] maati:
You're right. The HD will be the best thing at least until Q3/2009 probably. But then there's goning to be something revolutionary.
[Touch HD General] tboy2000:
I really think the Touch HD is good enough for most people. What could possibly be in the XD and not in the HD? HD is beautifully designed compared to the new WIMAX one which is horrible. Maybe the XD will have 8 or 16gig built in. Well we can easily add 8 or 16 gig microsd cards. Maybe XD will have a camera flash? Okay but a slight improvement over HD. Maybe XD will have Windows Mobile 7? Well I am sure the talented folk on here will make a compatible rom for HD users. Maybe XD will have Android? Well we are a Windows Mobile community and it will take a long time for Android to catch up with the thousands of apps out for PPC. Maybe it will have a 4" screen? Well I don't want too big a casing. 3.8" is perfect. Maybe it will have the new graphics chip? The HD seems fast and more than capable to play movies and games.

I am not sure waiting and waiting for the XD version will be so worthwhile in my opinion, especially as we don't know what we are waiting for.

I can't wait for HD. The PERFECT phone (in my opinion of course) :)
[Touch HD General] Raziel1:
i am pretty sure it wonÄt have WINMO 7 as it will not be out before the end of next year. and even then companys will have to test it before phones come out. so i don't expect WINMO 7 devices to see the light of day befor christmas 2009
[Touch HD General] unclesomebody:
For sure the next revolution in mobile phones will be the implementation of tegra or another piece of hardware very similar to tegra. That will then open up the possibilities of how we interact with our phones. I can't wait, but to hang on for the NEXT big thing all the time simply means you miss out on the currently available goodness!
[Touch HD General] buggybug0:
I bet my money on that XD will have WM7, Capactive touch screen and Tegra. the rest, such as flash or built-in storage are minor things.

The reason being that one of WM7's _suggested_ (not minimum) requirement is capacitive touch screen, it has been mentioned more than once that microsoft wants WM& to be finger friendly and touch oriented instead of using a stylus, so those two go in hand in hand most LIKELY. Nvidia also annouced that they are focusing SOLELY on WM7 for tegra APX chip, so that goes hand in hand.

After searching and watching all the Tegra demo videos online, i believe this feature/hardware in itself will trump HD right now. But that won't happen till 6 month ~ a year later. I'm talking about the Tegra APX chip, not the 600 or 650, which may come earlier but are not targeted towards smartphones.

The final reason of why all these are connected is: in the original twitter of why HD is not released in US, the htc rep said "by the time we bring HD to US, there will be better things". The general trend based on my observation is that if someting (phone) is released in europe/asia first, it will be at least 6 month, till the same product passes the FCC certification + carrier certification + all that shenanigan. The same is especially true for US's GSM carrier, just look at how much delay Blackberry Bold is experiencing with AT&T's certification. Not saying it's a bad thing for them to do extra testing, but this delay just fits with what the HTC rep said. and i totally belive at the rate HTC is going, in 6+ month, they will have something that "makes HD look pale in comparison"
[Touch HD General] maati:
It won't be NVidia Tegra but probably Qualcomm or TI with Snapdragon and new OMAPs that feature 1GHz processors (+ Tegra perhaps?).

That's what the rumor about the HTC XD is about probably (well, even HTC employees don't know for sure what MR was talking about).

But it will eventually come before WM7 which means no capacitive touch but that's not for sure too.

That's everything that is known. I tell you because the speculations in this thread are going crazy...

And it is for sure that the HD will be the flagship device for at least half a year if not one year so go for it.
[Touch HD General] nin2thevoid:
I completely agree with this. The speculations are starting to look more like dreaming away on the ultimate phone, and "by the time the HD comes to the US" certainly does not refer to a time period of over a year from now, and before that hardly anybody realistically expects Tegra APX to be available. Same goes for WM7. Of course in a year from now there will be things that make the HD look pale in comparison. Same goes for hardware in a lot of segments, CPU's and GPU's experience huge developments per year. With that in mind you might as well wait for the rest of your life because every time something comes out something superior is already in the making.

I'm getting the HD because it will definitely rock, and I know it will really take some time before we see anything that will truly make the HD "pale in comparison".
[Touch HD General] dani31:
I don't see any revolution coming in 2009. Nothing the same scale as the introduction of touchscreen, camera or gps.

All these went through long period of prototypes, reduced functionality or usage of external devices before being fully integrated in consumer devices.

There is nothing revolutionary now under development that will hit the streets in one year time. Just higher data transfer speed, higher megapixel count, higher MHz cpus, more bling-bling in the interface, better game/video framerates, better internet support, in one word evolution.

The next revolution will probably be the substitution of arm with desktop-like x86 cpus, when the power consumption will drop about 10 times compared to what Via Nano and Intel Atom can do today. And that will be in 3 to 5 years time, when they go to 10nm or so fabrication process.

By that time we will plug the LCDs in our HTCs and play Half Life with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse :D
[LG G8 Questions & Answers] leopard_fist:
Does anyone know where I could find the appropriate kdz file for the verizon unlocked version of this phone? Thank you
[LG G8 Questions & Answers] AsItLies:
you could just use google and type in 'LG G8 firmware'... you'll find it in the first link that comes up.
[LG G8 Questions & Answers] leopard_fist:
Before I try rooting again, can someone tell me, or point me to a resource that explains, how I can back things up, so that if something goes wrong, I can start back over from square one? I can't make a nandroid backup because I don't have twrp. I guess a proper kdz would do it. Is there some sort of device backup in qfil?

thanks very much!
[LG G8 Questions & Answers] Kevin Guz:
you can back up every partition using qfil
[LG G8 Questions & Answers] AsItLies:
you absolutely don't need to back up every file because you have the kdz available. There are really just a handful of partitions that identify that phone you should backup; ftm, fsg, modem, modemst1 and modemst2 (both a and b sides if the partition has a and b). (these partitions have your imei / sn in them).

some additional partitions you could also backup; abl, laf, boot, xbl, vbmeta. But, keep in mind, because the kdz is available, you can use the kdz extractor utilities to get those partitions from it.

those that need full backups are those that have sprint and at&t phones, as there are no kdz available for them.
[LG G8 Questions & Answers] blaze2051:
im on the same boat, i have the g820um sprint and i messed and never backup anything up, i somehow ended flashing what i thought was sprint backup files but turns out it was att backup files it worked and got my phone working again BUT twrp cant flash or erase anything and my imei is zeroed out but i dont care about that, what i do care is getting some other rom flashed like GSI or LOS android 10 no higher
[Black Shark 4 Pro] Hutch Carmichael:
I have a Black Shark 4 Pro but don't know if it has the global rom or the Chinese rom. Can anyone tell me how to find out.
[Black Shark 4 Pro] ksbwings:
BS4Pro is "Chinese Rom Only" with EN language. There is NO Global ROM yet.
[Black Shark 4 Pro] Azizq8:
I need black shark 4 pro global rom i can root it
[Black Shark 4 Pro] bouyhy01:
Can you share the bootloader unlocking’method or the contact who didi it for you?
[Black Shark 4 Pro] cabbalierous:
There are several blackshark 4 pro that are recently released here in philippines with global rom.

I should have waited for it :( ill try to ask someone with a global rom to have a firmware dump. View attachment 5559853
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] ThatPolishWolf:
Today I could finally use the xiaomi unlock tool to unlock my bootloader and root my phone. So I decided to do that. I did what I was supposed to and after rebooting the phone booted to recovery. I thought it was fine and it probably was supposed to happen so I flashed twrp. After doing that and attempting to boot to OS the recovery said the phone didn't have an OS installed. Did I do something wrong despite trying not to?

Edit: I downloaded a ROM. Can't use that one. Trying another one which will hopefully work. can't find any factory images for my phone sadly.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] shinoaki:
just to be safe...flash other ROMs or MIUI using recovery/fastboot. if you want to take risk rebooting it should be ok since i often got the message during installing custom ROMs. but TO BE SAFE just flash some ROM
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] ThatPolishWolf:
I'm currently downloading MIUI. Hopefully it works. Will be a pain to log back into some of the apps but Hopefully the root access etc is worth this pain.
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] shinoaki:
well as long as you can access fastboot or recovery your phone is still alive
[Redmi Note 10 Pro] anur@g:
You didn't mentioned anything regarding what you did. Anyway you've the fastboot working, you can flash custom recovery & any rom you wish. If that didn't work fastboot ROM is there always
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] budrus123:
I got my Pixel 6 Pro yesterday and I'm loving it so far. One annoying thing though is that the screen feels hollow. It almost feels like I'm tapping on a piece of plastic and not a sheet of glass. The sound is also really annoying. It feels like there is a gap between the screen and what's underneath it. I used to have a OnePlus 7 Pro and that screen feels like a solid brick. Is this normal or not?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] mikemod:
Noticed that myself, I thought they had a plastic screen protector on it.

Comparing to my 3XL which feels like solid glass.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] budrus123:
Exactly what I thought! Feels like tapping on plastic. But I guess it is normal. My brother's iPhone also feels like this. Kind of weird.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] freebee269:
You could always rma it and wait till December when stock comes available to get a replacement. 😂
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] oneandroidnut:
This is weird! My note 20 ultra is solid, pixel ehhhhhh lol
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
Welcome to Gorilla Glass Victus!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Interesting. A Google search for this anomaly only pulls up glowing reviews.

3 pages couldn't find anything about it... I'm not doubting members claims here.

A dead giveaway there's monkey business afoot.

Looks at all the glowing initial reviews for all of the Samsung Fold series...

Meh, time will tell.

The glass which is Victus and the display are relatively thin. Some the support comes from what's in back of it and how it's bonded to the display. The battery is a big part of this usually.

Victus glass is thinner than previous glasses.

The actual thickness used though is up to the individual manufacturer, I believe.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] znel52:
Not sure how I will feel about this. Maybe once some screen protectors similar to Whitestone dome come out they will alleviate this some?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] markbrown83:
That's interesting.

8 hours ago I tweeted this

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1452933119812816896
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] 94b20gsr:
To return a device because tapping on it sounds different than expected or the last device used seems absurd.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] markbrown83:
Not really. Didn't feel nice to use.

I didn't return it because of the sound it was the feel.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] budrus123:
Hey Mark, this is exactly how I felt. Do you think this is an issue or just how it feels? I'm conflicted.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] markbrown83:
I think it's just the new victus glass.

I doubt it's an issue. They will all be like it however it could be down to how it's been bonded and what's behind the screen (battery etc). I think all the pros will be the same though and most likely the non pro too.

I'm tempted to get the non pro and find out but will think about it this evening and decide tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
It may have more to do with the actual thickness of the Victus glass. Corning from what I've read doesn't specify the thickness of their glass the manufacturer must use.

However Corning's impact testing is based on a specified thickness. Feel the impact of that...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] markbrown83:
Yup victus is thinner.

It's not defective it's just different. I didn't like how it felt so I have returned mine.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Keith W:
It sounds like some screens are delaminating.

I have not seen mention of this issue on any of the many reviews I have watched.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Deleted member 3193942:
lol. I'm not getting the hollow feeling... at all.

I switched over from a Pixel 5 so I know the feeling you're talking about. There were folks even discussing it on XDA a year ago here. And that wasn't the only thread.

Anyway, that feeling that I felt on the 5, I'm not getting on the 6 Pro.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Now everyone is tapping their screens🤣
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] krips2003:
May be that's how it is. Else all the iPhone lovers reviewing the phone would have pointed this one out even before doing any of the comparison with iPhone 13 Pro/Max 😂

FYI... This guy's Pixel 6 Pro screen shattered. It looks like glass to me.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Badger50:
Oh no! Not again!! ;)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] nlua:
You get used to it. At least I have. I even think it even helped my stutter stepping in Archero when I was still playing. Annoyed the hell out the Mrs though at night 😆

Here's to hoping it's not any worse than the P2XL! I'll find out in a day or so 🤞
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] kboya:
Can't say that this is bothering me. I usually keep haptics off, but I suppose I can feel what you do with it on.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] markbrown83:
100% it is glass.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] markbrown83:
This basically sums it all up.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] mikemod:
Yea, I have no issues with it, just different, just enjoying the phone which is awesome :)
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
I received my P6 Pro and compared it to the sound of my P4 XL when I manually tap my finger against the glass. It does sound a bit different. But it woudn't bother me.

What I also noticed, is that something inside the phone seems to be slightly loose. When I shake the phone lightly, you can hear a slight rattling sound - it's worse if I shake it faster. Anyone else got that problem?
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] krips2003:
The sound that you hear comes from the Telephoto camera. Watch this live, now recorded video from yesterday.

FYI... they compared to other flagship smart phone and they also does that. Some are more pronounced than others. Just don't shake your phone too much 🙏 ✌️
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
Yes there's a very hollow sound to the display. It can't be because of Victus because the s21U which also has victus definitely doesn't have this, it sounds solid as a rock. I'd really like a UV Glue TGSP for this display because I'm not sure I trust it's strength!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Mh, okay. Interesting. I chatted for a while with the Pixel Store support and after about an hour of my support chat rep talking with the hardware specialist department, they now want to replace my phone directly with another. I explained the problem to them in quite the detail and apparently that is not normal. Or maybe it is. A friend of mine will soon get his P6 Pro, gonna take a look then at his if he has the same problem.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] krips2003:
I have some Sony lenses with OSS, I can feel something is moving when I shake the lens. So this is normal. You can also go to the nearest BB store and try to shake the Galaxy S21 Ultra or Pixel 6 Pro. I'm pretty sure you'll hear the sound.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1453025239537967105
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Watching thousand dollar phones hanging over the edge of a table gives me anxiety, lol.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Guyinlaca:
I believe this is normal and comes from the telephoto camera. I've heard this rattle with the Note 9 and Note 20 Ultra as well.

https://xdaforums.com/t/you-hear-a-noise-when-shaking-the-phone.4352909/#post-85841147
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
It's likely the mechanical image stabilizer when coming from the cam module.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] combat goofwing:
Had play with a P6 pro in an O2 shop today ,hopefully mine will be here tomorrow.

It felt solid not hollow and just like my one plus 8 pro when using the screen
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
Solid as a rock.I have know idea what these guys are comparing it too. Great phone. Massive. Yikes!
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Nekromantik:
wow is all I can say now people dont like how the screen feels.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] hello00:
*Returns the phone

*Clerk- Why are you returning it?

*well, it does not make the same sound like on my previous phone when I tap on the screen.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
It feels like GOD to me. Lol. It's huge
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Golf c:
I have no idea what there comparing too? Spoiled rotten. I have only had Google phones.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] blackhawk:
Meh, I had a gf...

she rubbed me the wrong way🤣

Androids are a very tactile device that you spend a lot of time with.

Why put out big bucks for something that doesn't feel good? Plenty of Androids in the sea.

It's a matter of taste, so to speak.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] spr33:
Noticed this immediately when using the 6 Pro for the first time today.

I've done a side by side comparing to my Oneplus 7 Pro and also went to a store to check out the iPhone 13 Pro and 13 and checked the in store demo units of the Pixel 6's.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1453753978924240904
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] stuff:
Some people have some really odd quirks lol
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] dnaL0R:
yes, it's the first thing i noticed !

seems like they forgot a layer of cushion/filler in between the components inside[?]

the screen gets tapped hundreds of times a day during use, so of course it's a big deal when it feels this cheap n hollow...
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Sammae7:
My wife's iPhone 12 Max Pro sounds exactly like my Pixel 6 Pro when tapped, as do a few phones I've owned recently. I do believe it's largely due to the new iterations of Gorilla Glass.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] niko26:
Same here. P6 Pro bought in Germany.

What makes it even more awkward - it feels less hollow towards the edges. Yes, physics, but it's an inconsistent feel across the entire screen.

Not a big fan.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] meleelord:
After using the Pixel 5 for a year this is nowhere near as bad. I don't really notice it.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
Just did a few taps on my Pixel 2 XL and compared to the Pixel 6 it sounds exactly the same. Tapping on a Nexus 5X that sounds much more solid. Can't say I would ever have noticed any difference unless I read this post about it. Doesn't worry me in the slightest as I don't usually tap the phone glass.

It might even be related to the sound/speakers, they sound more hollow because there are little boxes that hold the speakers that have some air in them, and they are designed to make efficient use of that to give some indication of bass, so tapping the display transfers that into the speakers that create a hollow sound.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Lughnasadh:
Hmm, I wonder if the type of case and the type of screen protector also come into play as well. Because I have a different case and a different screen protector on my Pixel 2XL than I do on my Pixel 6 Pro and to me the tapping on the Pixel 2XL definitely sounds more solid. 🤔
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] PhilipL2021:
May well do, I have no case or screen protector on the Pixel 2 XL. We know these devices are far from hollow internally but packed with electronics and battery, so I really think the hollow sound is likely being created by the little speakers.

The screen attaches like all similar devices, just stuck on around the edges.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Batfink33:
The display on the 6P is bonded to the edge of the frame. On for eg OP or Samsung devices ,it's bonded to the mid frame so there's no hollow sound. There's an air gap under the display on the 6P or iPhone so that's why you get the hollow sound.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Itaintrite:
I've definitely experienced it before in other phones (pretty sure my Note 20 Ultra has the same "feel" to it). But I barely noticed it, until I saw this thread.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] kaytar:
The first thing i noticed in my P6 [non pro].
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] adil7884:
i compared P6P with iphone 13 pro max and it sounds exactly the same,but it is all normal, I can only add that the P6P is made up in a maniacal way is just perfect.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] Morgrain:
Yup, it's also present in every new IPhone. It's because of the way that the Display is connected to the Chassie physically. There are quite the number of other phones with the same exact "issue" - at this point you could call it a design choice, it's not a "problem" per se, it's doesn't hurt or makes the device less stable or something, it just sounds odd. I don't really like it, but I also don't dislike it. It only sounds really odd and might bother you if you use two phones at the same time, and the other one does not have this "design" choice.
[Google Pixel 6 Pro] adil7884:
I totally agree with you it's a design choice,however this P6P has many advantages