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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
in my opinion, its not worth it at all. first off, its usually a little more than $5/month. probably closer to $10. Then you need to keep in mind that there is a fairly sizable deductable, usually around $75-100. at the end of the day, just take care of your things, and your fine. i used to work at best buy, and i know those protection plans are the biggest money maker for the companies, because people pay big bucks for them, but rarely use them. just my opinion
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
It's actually 5.49 a month after taxes according to the bill I'm looking at, 50 dollar deductible how is that bad or anywhere near 10 bucks? I don't ever get the Best Buy insurance on anything that I agree with you on it's a complete scam but I wasn't talking about Best Buy here. Also consider this phone will sell for 549.99 without a contract (that's even cheaper than unlocked versions)!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
You could pay for the insurance, or just not ruin it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
only $50 deductible? i thought with a phone like this it'd be $125

nonetheless, i'd just take good care of the phone. If unfortunately something does happen to it, it just gives me an excuse to get a newer phone.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
AT&T ANNOUNCED 4 new phones, didn't launch anything. Didn't I say a long time ago I thought the 10/23 date was more likely an announcement than an actual launch? So yes, you can throw that sheet away since nothing launched on October 14th.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sizpak:
I received a deductible sheet from ATT a few weeks back, and the Tilt was listed at $150.00. I am betting that the Fuze will be at least that much.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sebrina:
I hate to do this to you but my local ATT store got the Pantech Matrix in this morning, the Propel should be in tomorrow although they won't sell these phones until it's actual release date the 16th (2 days).The others I don't know much about.

Edited for spelling.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i am pretty sure att didnt cover smartphones of any kind until recently although they would sometimes sell the insurance or leave it on ur bill from an old phone

i work in best buy mobile and we dont bother with their insurance just ours wich has no deductable.

but i do know the deductable for the tilt is well over 100 not the 50 you said
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] skyfox99:
appears to be in the bottom of the phone, but reception seems unaffected really by the orientation of the phone.

att did release a few phones this week but really entry level although the matrix is a GREAT texting phone with pehenom bat life and a great screen. gps, too... was impressed.

ins deduct will be 125 as there are only two deducts either 50 or 125... and is well worth it... 60 a year is worth my peace of mind since the fuze to replace will be 550 most likely and trust me it is worth it to ins any phone retailing over 250
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] skyfox99:
preorders... no... restocke fee i believe starts the 19th on ALL phones that are brought back for any other reason besides defects... believe it will be 20 or 25 dollars... chances are pricing on black fri will be the same at COR location, so dont expect any specials on the phone, maybe waived fees or something...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
it used to work on my 8525 im not sure if they ever changed it or not. in the store they might automatically change it. a store employee would have to answer
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cparkhorn:
Cedar Park, by new 183a tollway

I don't have the number, I just drive up there as I work from home in Cedar Park. It's located at the 183a tollway and 1431 (whitestone), not sure who you talked to. I don't know the guy's name, but I went in at 12:15pm before grabbing lunch. Said they got the bold in this morning's shipment and that they were told they would get an afternoon shipment of Fuzes or an early morning at the latest, would be sold tomorrow. He gave me a card, but I put it in my Whataburger bag after lunch. I'll probably run by there again tomorrow just to see.

Like I've mentioned, I don't take what is being said with authority. I'm skeptical until there is a public announcement or I see it on the shelves. I saw and handled this guy's Fuze and an older rep in the store showed his, but he said he was probably going to give it to his son b/c he doesn't really use all the pda functionality, and yes I asked if he was interested in selling when they showed them 2 weeks ago, and they said they couldn't.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scoop3:
Okay, so.. final update for the day :D talked to the Rep again at my Local store, and he informed me he got in the bolds, but no Fuzes yet. He speculates tomorrow, and actually his manager chimed in and said the he believed that to be true also...

SO... we'll see I guess... Dood knew what it was, and was hoping for it to come out tomorrow as well lol so...

I seriously can't wait much longer... My puppy gota hold of my fone... and... needless to say, it's not so functional any more... calls in... no prob... calls out, are a little harder.. texts, or internet? HA! my LCD is toast.... /cry
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
my 8525 has gone from doing every now n then full white screen to about a 6th of the screen being a bar of white at all times and it actualy shifted the screen so a good portion is pushed off the other end so if i want to tap something i have to tap off to the side of where i want. its ridiculous
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fyr196:
I called the same Vernon Hills Store just minutes ago and the guy I talked to said later this month. I don't know who to believe. I just want to dump Sprint before the 8th when the next billing cycle starts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Can someone please convince me to not jump to Sprint? I'm seriously considering it. Reason being, my job offers discounts through AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon. I looked to see how much I could get a touch pro on Sprint for- $99 AFTER my discount with 2 year contract. I have the Premier account for AT&T, but who knows how much (if any) discount I'll be able to get on the Fuze. I live in Southern California, and as far as I can tell, Sprint coverage seems to be good. I'm not leaving the country any time soon and either way I'll adapt to either keyboard. The only reason I feel as though I'm stayin with AT&T is because I don't know any different. Anyone want to share any experiences they've had with Sprint?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mastern200:
"real date"

Fuze Mobility has been relentlessly beating on all of the Corporate Stores about the release date of the AT&T Fuze. We know the rumors were for tomorrow November the 4th, which was the same as the Blackberry Bold. Today however we have been able to confirm with a Large Volume Corporate Store that the Fuze has been delayed to

Friday, November the 7th

. AT&T Does not want the Fuze to compete with the Election Blackberry Bold release and has moved it out.

As of 12:00pm today, the Cooperate Store had NOT received it’s Demo Units or Store stock to sell yet. They had however received the Blackberry Bold stock which gives more credibility to our source. We also learned that that the Store Manager had the Fuze in hand and was very happy with the look and feel of the device as well as the performance. He also confirmed the Rebate was exactly has David K had posted: Rebate form for the Fuze leaked of $350.00 dollars and a $50.00 rebate for a two year contract.

More to come so stay tuned!

http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=235
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] intothevoid:
I just called a store in Long Island, NY and they told me they are getting the Bold tomorrow but no idea when the Fuze will be out.

And i posted earlier that i called about 5 stores in Manhattan and a 3 in Queens and pretty much all said no to it and didn't give a specific release date.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
the at&t touch pro will be much easier to upgrade then the sprint tp. far more people are developing 3g roms then there are cdma roms
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dsellers2:
More of the Same

I've been following this thread very close, and I too have searched for a confirmed release date. I just got on a chat with the ATT Premier site and here was the outcome:

Please wait for a chat agent to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Alyse B'

Alyse B: Welcome to AT&T Premier Support, my name is Alyse B. I am reading your question and will be right with you.

David Sellers: Thank You

Alyse B: You are welcome. I have read your question and I see that you are inquiring about the release date of the Fuze, correct?

David Sellers: Yes, that is correct. I am heading out of the country in a week and need a quad band phone and the Fuze is the perfect device for me. I do not want to buy the tilt because the release of the fuze is right around the corner.

Alyse B: I will be happy to assist you with this. I do completely understand your concerns. Regrettably, we do not yet have a time frame for this to be released. If you continue to check our website, once it is listed for sale and approved through your company, it will be available for you to purchase. I do apologize for any inconvenience.

David Sellers: Hmm. No time frame for the fuze. So I guess that means it not likely to be out within the next week.

Alyse B: Yes, there is no time frame for the device. To be honest, I have not heard of even a round about time frame for that release so I do not think that it would be within the next week.

David Sellers: Ok, well thank you for your time Alyse.

Alyse B: You are very welcome.

Alyse B: Do you have any questions regarding the information we discussed today?

David Sellers: Yes, Why wont ATT give a release date?

Alyse B: To be honest, I am not quite sure. There has to be a lot that is done before a device is released or to even have a rough idea for a release date.

Alyse B: I do apologize for any inconveniences that this may have caused.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
fridays better then next week at least

but gears 2 comes out friday! ahh busy day. plus that will cut into drinking time just a bit. definetly dont wana break the fone the first day i get it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] g8m3rtag:
I called the store at Chapel Hill (Akron/Cuyahoga Falls area of Ohio) Phone number: 330-923-1166 and spoke with Brian and he told me November 11th.

As soon as I said Fuze he replied without even hesitating.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bad Ash:
I thought the same thing..... Busy day - if the 7th is indeed the date...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Deano69:
Just talked to a corporate store here in Indiana. The guy on the phone is a salesman who was waiting for a Fuze also. He said that he talked to an HTC distributor and they haven't even got a date yet. He expects another 2 weeks wait.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
You make a good point about the upgrades, but do you think the benefit of upgrades outweighs the lower price in phone and plans that Sprint has to offer? I'm not looking to mod it too much. Although it did just occur to me, was the fm radio left out of the sprint version or does it just need a cab to activate it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
i believe sprints is actually missing the hardware for fm

and from what ive heard sprints rom is real laggy and slow so unless someone makes a great rom u probably wont be happy
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
I guess it would be better to stay with AT&T in that case. I would hate it if it ran slower. So do you think if I called customer service (once the Fuze is out) and told them I was thinking of leaving for the cheaper price, they would match the price of Sprint or at least knock off a few extra bucks?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] yuokool12:
There is an interesting article at fuzemobility.com which says the fuze will be out on the 7th

http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=235
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m.carroll:
its a possibility, but slim chance. at&t = money grubbing whore
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beachboyde:
Just call my local guys at ATT in Millsboro Delaware as I did this morn. told me to call back, they got the Bold but not the Fuze. I called the ATT store in Sauilsbury Maryland, again, told me they got the Bold for tomorrow and she check with her Manager and said the fuze was to be later in the month. guess the wait is still on, then again any remember the 6.1 update?

Beachboyde
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] blkjack74:
Lol, ok thanks. I guess I'll give it a try.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dontdo_that:
For anyone in the San Diego Central coast area:

I just called 6 stores and while two didn't answer, here's what I got:

La Jolla: Fuze will be here 22nd. Bold is here

Clairemont: didn't have a date and didn't have phone yet

Mira Mesa: I couldn't really understand the rep, but he said it would be announced next week??

El Camino Real: The rep told me their store is scheduled to have a device specific training for the Fuze on the 11th, that could imply some time wait afterwards.

will try a few more later.

Fuze kicks the **** out of the bold. The bold should have been postponed, not the fuze!!

It was also mentioned to me by one of the shops (Mira Mesa) that dates may vary a little bit as they receive their shipments from ATLANTA ? hard to believe there is no ATT shipping center in the giant state of CA? But that may also have to do with why some smaller stores are left in the dark compared to larger stores
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] HoustonRox:
Based on keeping up with this forum my conclusion is still nobody knows when it will be released.

My view on the chances of it coming out tomorrow is 1% based on the bold is coming out, no one has fuzes in stock, and the election wouldn't be to smart on AT&T part.

However I do think it will be this month the only question is when.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Alucard_11:
Miami, Fl Area

I just finished calling almost all the stores in the Miami Area

and they all told me the release was about in a week or 2

2 stores Confirmed a Official November 13 release date, BUT they wont be actually getting them in stock until the 16-17, the rep. even asked for me to call them on the 13th so i can be put on the list to recieve one.

so thats it i guess....

November 13 release date...but stores will get them a couple days after

November 15, 16, or 17.

:( and the wait continues....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] yuokool12:
i have had 2 stores confirm the release this week and one even asked me for my number so they could call me when they get it on the 5th
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
As did I.

I called the Woodbury store. They said that they got the bolds but no Fuzes. It will come out sometime this month says the rep. (thanks). The confident sales rep told me that they are kept in the dark and I am better off checking engadget for rumours and If im lucky i'll see something that is official.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
So basically ... the REAL DATE is ...

NO ONE KNOWS! :eek::eek::eek:

everybody ... has a "REAL SOURCE", ooooooh

hahah
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sdlopez83:
You picked up on that one heh heh. Looks like we are **** outta luck till further notice.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] clmbngbkng:
It is true that nobody has a clue when its really coming out but I do like reading this thread during work so keep up with the speculation!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ACMilan07:
Went to an AT&T store here in Houston, the guy in the store already had a demo he was playing with that they just got a few days ago.. no exact date as well -.-) but he too told me "it will be released within the next week and that the main reason it wasn't released because of the bold" (apparently theres more demand for a bb bold or at least thats what AT&T thinks !!!!! :(:(:(

honestly guys i'd give it 2 - 3 weeks for it's release.. don't get your hopes up and expect it to hit within this week.. Thanksgiving and later is what im seeing.. I actually think im going to go sign with sprint, even though i hate their network..($99 w/e you want is great, im paying $79.99 for half those options) just because i want to play with it so bad.. it's either that or im buying some new housing for my tilt to keep me satisfied and at least i can think i've got a brand new phone :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xboxhaxorz:
My SOURCE says its coming out soon. Hopefully before the 20th which is my bdy, my SOURCE tells me i will have a suprise party with everybody having a fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
i think i'm gona pay the store a visit tomorrow...who knows maybe they'll receive the shipment in morning! if not, then it's time to be BOLD!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ramontrotman:
i know everyone is a little excited, but lets try to keep the swear words to min.....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
MWI! That's what I was looking for! Thanks!

People people people. Please. Just expect the release to be anywhere from the 5th of November to the 30th of november. And knowing at&t, they mostly release devices on tuesday, so expect the 11th or 18th.

Um FAN discounts are percentage wise....you get same discount on everything besides the iPhone. I know I get 50% off retail any device. So if the fuze is retailed at $500, I should be able to pick it up for $250.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DesCo:
That's even without a contract renewal? I've never used my discount to get a phone, only service.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Ummm, you really haven't been paying attention to the Bold, have you? It was announced to come out in July and came in November, an absolutely EPIC delay that no other phone in recent memory has experienced. The Fuze has never had a release date announced, we had leaked info saying late October, now it's early November, and you think THAT'S a delay???
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] CLShortFuse:
AT&T Fuze has been delayed until Friday November 7th, 2008 as to not interfere with Blackberry Bold launch

http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=235
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kerensky97:
Anybody asked about the "HTC P4600"? The rebate form mentioned it like that so maybe it's worth a try; it would explain why none of the people being called know how to spell "Fuze".

Or maybe you could find out for sure if "your source" is really just a dumb sales rep. "The HTC P4600 isn't coming out till December but the Fuze is coming out in 2 weeks."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yes. It should be without any type of contract UNLESS you're in cali. Then it'll be 50% off retail /w 2 yr contract/renewal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
And here comes to time to say I told you so. :rolleyes:

I really did tell all of you that AT&T would not release two powerhouse phones on the same day and thus why the fuze is delayed. I knew it would hurt AT&T's sales. Either that, or an high status AT&T employee watches this thread and decided to recommend that they delay it because I said that :p But I'll never know now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Well I'll be... It works! I guess I'll use this instead of texts now. :P
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
Yes, i know you WERE right, but didnt you change your mind after hearing all of these Nov 4th posts :p

Can some1 tell me why i shouldnt get the bold bc its so tempting just to get it b/c its coming out tomm.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
I decided to believe over all the hype, but a part of me still said it's not possible since my friend who works for at&t said that they get the material to set up the posters, price cards, etc... like two days earlier. So I was pretty sure that it wasn't going to come out tomorrow, but I'd like to believe that it was. (I'd still like to believe that it is :D)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
i can't tell you why you shouldn't cuz i'm considering it myself

would it be possible to pick up a bold tmr..and return it when fuze comes out? :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Yes. That's very possible, but if you damage it in any way whatsoever, they will not allow you to return it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] venelar:
My luck i'd drop it in the parking lot leaving the store.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] btprice2001:
I am still using a mediamax plan with my unlocked Tytn II. Does anyone know if I would I be better off to buy it online through my Premier account or would I still run the same risk of having the mediamax plan automatically changed? I don't get a equipment discount, so I'd rather purchase it in store, but I don't want to lose the mediamax plan. Also, I'd forgo the mail in rebate to keep the mediamax plan, so if I purchase in store and say I don't want a data plan, what are the chances they would still see plans I currently have and change them?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
:( I can't do that b/c ive already returned my epix before and i cant get anymore returns. so if i get the bold im stuck wit it for 2 years. so can anyone talk me out of getting the bold?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
http://gizmodo.com/5075236/att-blackberry-bold-review-best-blackberry-yet

That's why you shouldn't buy it. Look at what they say about the lack of applications, about the browser being incompetent at times compared to Safari... Wouldn't you rather have all of the same WinMo apps you see on this forum, as well as the ones that're yet to be made, and use Opera Mobile 9.5? COME ON, the Bold has 2 browsers, 1 for wifi and 1 for 3G!!! They can't even fit that together?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexmullins:
thanks alot man. I read the article and from what i can tell everything you said was correct(i also watched a vid about the browser on youtube and the browser is subpar, no where near what opera mobile is). and i dont think there is community like this for the bold. im just going to wait it out like the rest of ya :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] y2whisper:
yeah even at my work people drool over things like the iphone and the bold, but to their defence to them, those features huge leaps for them (i.e. 3G which most of us have had for 2 years).

for now we just gotta take it one day at a time, for me i can't wait, but first off i want to see the offical non contract price so I can get it.

side question, how much does it cost for AT&T users to cancel your contract? up here its been changed to $20 per month left up to a max of $400!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bpm2000:
Where do u find out how much % off you get phones @? I don't see anything that states a price for just the phone w/out contract anywhere...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
HAHAHHAAH OH MY GOD.

AT&T's ETF is $175 even if you cancel in the second month (first month you can cancel for free). I don't think any carrier goes above $200 USD.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] asingic:
Well this is an interesting idea....

sign up for a contract then dump it ... could be a cheaper way of getting the fuze?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] baboola:
not really, cuz there's still an activation fee and that'll add up to $200ish. AT&T's prices are set so they suck the money out of you either way =p.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] JonDeutsch:
Someone has to say it - Sprint's Touch Pro is sexier than the FUZE

Crap! I need GSM, but that Sprint Touch Pro case looks way sharper with the rounded edges, chrome, and matte back.

What can we do?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
They don't have that anymore, Krazie is just crazy.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] esquire0399:
Actually this has been debated quite a lot, and has actually been mentioned a few times today. Some people love the look of the Fuze but hate the look of Sprint's Touch Pro, some even saying it looks cheap, and vice versa. It's all a matter of personal preference. Personally I think they both look great, but I do think the Fuze looks a little more high end, though I wish ATT had kept the matte faceted back, as opposed to the shiny.