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[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
Just pointing out if no one tests, no one gets a stable....thats how things get done :)

sometimes its not about the indivdual, its about the many

ive tested more ROM's than most people have had hot dinners over the years (at one point 3-4 ROM's a week), a lot of it was to help devs and be part of the community, give back

devs and testers accept there will always be a part of the userbase who just want to enjoy the spoils without lifting a finger, and thats fine

but its probably best if you dont vocalise "I have no intention of trying PE 13 until there is a stable release" as it doesnt make people making the sacrifices like you very much :)

just a tip....
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I understand your POV. They are free to make that choice, if they wish. Noone is holding a gun to their head, forcing them to try betas. However, I need my device to be stable, more than anything. Which is why I usually only run stable releases.

And right now, I'm not in a position to try any GSIs, for a few days, at least. I have just switched my main device, still getting used to it before I get into the bootloader unlocking, etc.

For those that wish to make this choice, I commend them. As for me, I will most likely set up PE 12 as my primary GSI, while also dual booting PE 13 via DSU Sideloader as a secondary ROM.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] DocMAX:
From which stock rom are you comming? Android 10 or 11? On 10 after i unlock bootloader the front camera ist not working. With Android 11 NO GSI rom loading (stuck at boot logo or bootloop)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i am using a galaxy A32 running Spark os. both cameras work fine front and back. although didnt test cameras on PE 13
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] DocMAX:
ok, never mind, i'm talking about jelly 2 device. there is a general problem, where front camera is not working after bootloader unlock, see

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnihertzJelly2/comments/r2jsw4/_/iqzsbfh
. so not related to GSI i guess.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
oh hope it gets resolved soon
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
several issues ( DT2W and DT2S) and button power. when i need to turn off the screen..) and pairing issues with two TWS devices : Lg T90 et galaxy buds plus..... device zenfone 9
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] T_Tank:
I was on the last version of Android 10 if memory serves me right I have been running gsi roms for a while now.

I did do a fastboot -w and fastboot clear userdata later and front camera was working fine as well as ims but the mediatek ims download is crashing on 13 so I can't test volte or vowifi yet

Will try to get some logs later tonight
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
fwiw PixelExperience_arm64-ab-13.0-20221003-UNOFFICIAL boots fine, passes setup on my S20+ 5G....

Just restoring my apps to have a test drive

+ most works fine

- no fingerprint reader
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] mikefnz:
PE13 is an early alpha. It doesn't work on my Mi Pad 5 either.

We will have to wait for a later version.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] scottyrick2:
PE 13 1004 version installed perfectly on my Mediatek-based Lenovo TB-X606F tablet. No issues so far. No bootloops. Just smoother and faster than 12.1. I don't know what fixed it but I am glad the developer knows.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
bluetooth works? my bluetooth headsets didnt coonect
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] scottyrick2:
Yep. No problem with bluetooth on this device.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
oh great.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] zhlj2004:
I see, thanks a lot!
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
BT doesnt work for me.... testing with 2 tws samsung and lg
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
oh. well hope it gets fixed soon
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
fwiw bluetooth working fine on my S20+ 5G with Watch 4/TV/Desktop/Buds+ connected
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] iH8ra!n:
Anyone successfully tried to install the October 4 build on the Huawei P20 Lite?

I tried to dirty flash from PE 12.1 (latest Bild) but it keeps rebooting into the Huawei Stock Recovery (eRecovery, I guess) instead of into the system.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] lampdoors23:
Pixel Experience 13 alpha works pretty well on Samsung Tab S8 Plus (assume it'll boot well on the S7 series as well. The only issues are Bluetooth not holding connection, stereo audio, brightness (but there's a workaround), and fingerprint scanner. Otherwise, a lot smoother than my experience on PE 12L as android 13 contains much better support for tablets.

Brightness fix involves setting the max brightness setting under PHH Samsung to 1.0. Somehow it allows the screen to detect the actual max brightness of the AMOLED panel?

Rotation can be fixed on portrait UI screens (lock screen, wallpapers, etc) by using AOSP Mods and force-allowing all rotations.

Hopefully, the issues above are ironed out as new releases roll out.

On a different note, has anyone managed a way to update A13 gsi without wiping data?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] T_Tank:
its been running pretty smooth on my jelly 2 but lack of blue tooth makes it.. harder to really get into more testing with other things but i'm sure that will be figured out soon..

Pretty insane to think this only got android 11 officially and i haven't really messed with to many apps but so far things are scaling alright on the puny screen
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] DocMAX:
SparkOS-13.0-arm64_bgN-Unofficial.img

ArrowOS-13.0-arm64_bgN-Unofficial.img

crDroid-8.9-arm64_bgN-Unofficial.img

I tested all those with Jelly2. Bluetooth is working on all.

So PE is the problem here.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] T_Tank:
I'll wait on PE to figure out whats causing the bluetooth hickup.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
bluetooth broke for me on arrow os 13 the phh patches build. works fine on andy yan's based patches build.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Tin2233:
This GSI support OTA update?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
Bluetooth works for me on crdroid (A12) but spark and Arrow I have bootloop can't tedt
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
what phone?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
Zenfone 9
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i have no idea then. personally me using A32. i had to downgrade to one ui 3.1 (android 11) firmware to get it to work. then i flashed spark os gsi on top and bam it booted like a charm.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
No choice for me about firmware... Only A12 stock fwr 😭
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
ah rip....... i think you can stick with android 12 gsi's for now. they are stable. i was daily driving spark os but it had tons of bugs. the launcher would kill itself when too many apps were open and the gestural navigation would just get unresponsive. arrow os 13 phh patches bluetooth is broken. stick with android 12 for now... i am going with crdroid 8.9. you could use the latest android 12.1 pe plus from the github releases page
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
Ah ok... Best choice for me Ancient GSI only bug for me button power for turn off screen
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i never tried Acient OS. i'll give it a go.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
This is a really GREAT GSI. Finally got rid of that amobination of an OS on my Samsung S21 exynos.

The only thing that isn't working on this device is the fingerprint sensor (as far as I can tell). This has the in-screen sensor. Has anyone got this working?

There seems to be (sadly) a lack of native custom roms for S21.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
Actually, just to add to this. What's the experience of the Lineageos GSI on S21? I'm hearing it's better battery life, which is a big deal on the S21. How about fingerprint sensor?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i will suggest you use DSU sideloader because there are thousands of android 12/12.1/13 gsi's (13 has only some) but dsu sideloader allows you to test a gsi. after your done just reboot you go back into your main OS. its a huge time saver. you can go test what gsi works for you best. if you want to reboot and still boot into the gsi then download terminal emulator when rebooted into gsi and type "gsi_tool enable". after your done testing the. just click the restart button in the notification shade and your ready to test another gsi.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I'm just wondering, who else here is running either PE12 or PE13 on a tablet? If you have tried both, then between the 2, which is more optimized for tablets?

I've just upgraded to a Galaxy Tab S7+, SM-T976N, South Korean variant, running stock Android 12. It's also compatible with 5g, and 5g works on stock firmware. I live in the US, T-Mobile is my carrier. So far I've rooted and installed TWRP, but have yet to try a GSI on it.

My old device was also a Tab S7+, but it was a US variant that only supported wifi for network connectivity. I was previously running PE on that tab.

I'm also curious to know who else has 5g working on PE without issues (any device, any recent-ish PE version). Were there any special settings you had to configure? I think it will probably work on a GSI since it's already working fine on stock. But still wanting some input.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
try to use dsu sideloader to try both gsi's and see which one works best for you. its the best way to test without touching your original system.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
did you try the new build? my Bluetooth problem was fixed.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
Crdroid is ok.... Arrow and Spark not booting for me....
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I've tried DSU sideloader while running the stock firmware. I couldn't get it to install the GSI, even though I was Magisk rooted. In the log it just gives a weird error. My bootloader is unlocked, so that can't be the issue.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] rafik25:
Lastest PE Build dont boot for me (and previous release yes ¨)
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] DocMAX:
No, Bluetooth connects now but disconnects again after a few seconds. Also still slower in 3DMark than ArrowOS. ArrowOS still prefered.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
bluetooth doesnt work for me in arrow os otherwise i would daily drive it
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
Thank you. That's going to be really useful going forward.

So, I've tried PE and Lineage on my S21. Here's the frustration...

Samsung Stock - just awful. Terrible battery life. Samsung crapware. Jarring UI choices. But... everything works.

PE - Beautiful UI. Doesn't seem to trip up SafetyNet. Banking, Netflix, and Company Portal all work. But... fingerprint sensor doesn't work. Battery life not so good as lineage

Lineage - All the hardware works as expected inc fingerprint sensor. However, trips the Safetynet. Rooted using phh possibly the problem. Tried Magisk but doesn't help. Now apps seem to be crashing left and right. Can't load banking, netflix, google wallet, company portal, etc. Basically unusable. Maybe will try and see if I can do a build without root.

I may dive into the patches and see if I can string togther a build like Lineage, but with the purity of PE. Seems a little daunting.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
did you try options in phh treble settings e.g. work around for broken fingerprint sensor. reboot after applying the change the try again. for me samsung killed my sensor permanently after i updated to a firmware. it aint comming back. it doesnt work on stock too for me. although give that setting a try and leme know how it goes
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
So.... went back and tried PE 12 - fingerprint sensor just works perfectly. However this one is also failing SafetyNet, which is a real PITA.

I'll try Magisk and modules, see what happens. I don't hold much hope. May end up just having to go back to the Samsung stock ROM. :(
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
dont lose hope yet!. try this one. its modded by @Displax. I AM NOT THE OWNER OF THE MODULE. it worked for me. should work for you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
You, sir, are a gentleman.

Passes SafetyNet, and with a few entries in the denylist, I have my banking, Google Wallet, Netflix, Uber, and InTune company portall (Teams/Outlook) all working perfectly.

Plus working fingerprint, and... face unlock. AMAZING. Hopefully better battery life than the Samsung ROM too. Thank you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
glad to know everything worked out!

your welcome
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
I guess one last thing. No network, no sim card showing. I guess this is something to do with IMS, which shows "Install IMS APK for NOT SUPPORTED". No idea what I'm doing on this one really.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
thats wierd. is the sim picked at all? or are the networks just not there? it should work. try the ims because idk other than that.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
So yeah... it had an eSim, which seemed fine until I disabled it after transferring it to another phone while I mess around with this one. Now it won't even recognise a physical sim. It's showing the imei's and slots correctly in the system info, but not showing any card present. very odd. The sim options in network are greyed out
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
This is all most people should need to pass SafetyNet AND newer Integrity Test
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
yeah
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
fwiw, i use stock Samsung on my S20+ most of the time, i have been using debloater modules for years, and currently use/recommend this one (also on the new repo via Fox Magisk Module Manager)

https://xdaforums.com/t/magisk-module-systemless-debloater-replace.4180083/

in fact the writer of that module has seen my personal debloat list as i have given him logs for debug feedback and thinks its a wonder my device boots :) For the record its 135 packages, and i could remove more...

p.s. have you tried your sim under the stock ROM. some devices (my 20+ does) i think require you to remove the esim first before a physical can be used again..i would try look for this option and try this under the stock ROM - select the SIM in SIM Card Manager -> Remove
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] martinlong78:
Yes, thanks for the info. I did earlier pop the stock rom on, and there, the eSIM was still showing. (However, note that on stock I can have 2 physical SIMs plus any number of eSIMs installed and it will work fine. In fact it is dual radio, so I can used two of them at once.

So, I removed the eSIM and reflashed PE. Now it's just going through the setup again, but it does seem to recognise the physical SIM in there (though it's currently a foreign one). I've ordered a physical SIM to replace my eSIM, which would have made this whole process easier right from the start.

Thanks everyone for all the help.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] T_Tank:
Probably should put none pe rom recommendations in another thread or a reddit thread
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] caophong:
Bạn có thể cho tôi hướng dẫn cài đặt được không?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] DuongThanh:
What version for redmi note 11 pro (china)?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I've just installed the latest PE 13 GSI on my Tab S7+. It's the first GSI I've tried on this device since I received it from eBay earlier this month.

It booted up the first time, no issues. Both 5g and 4g work out of the box. Magisk Delta is also working.

Mobile data and root were the "must work" things for me. Will test more as I go along.

So far the only issue I'm seeing is that the Phh Treble settings will just freeze/not responding when I go into that menu.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 0x00000FF:
PE 13 v2022.10.04 working on samsung galaxy a22 5G (mediatek) only issue is bluetooth does not work, PE 13 v2022.10.09 (newest) boots but play store doesn't load and bluetooth still not working
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Try updating play store manually. Grab the latest apk from apkmirror and install it. The store worked for me the 1st time.

"Force disable a2dp offload" in Treble settings might fix your Bluetooth issue. Still haven't tested Bluetooth myself though. But on PE11/12, toggling that setting allowed my JBL earbuds to work.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 0x00000FF:
I would but unfortunately bluetooth is a feature I use a lot to listen to music in the car or if I'm taking public transport, in PE 12 checking "Force disable A2DP offload" would fix bluetooth for me but in PE 13 it doesn't work and even using the samsung audio and mediatek bluetooth workaround it still didn't work, if you can get it working though let me know
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
bluetooth was fixed for my galaxy A32 4G (mediatek) in the latest PE 13 build
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I'm about to try. I just bought Top Gun Maverick from Amazon Prime Video, will be a good test. Gonna be disappointed if I have to listen to the movie through my tab's speakers.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Just tested. Bluetooth audio is working fine on my end. And weirdly enough, I didn't have to toggle the "Force disable a2dp offload" setting. Which is something I had to do in every other GSI I've tried. Sorry, but I don't have any further suggestions. You can always install PE 12 if BT audio is really important to you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 0x00000FF:
Flashing newest PE 13 now to see if I can get BT working as I never tried it without the A2DP workaround
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 0x00000FF:
Hi mate sorry to bother you again but would you be able to tell me your audio settings and anything you changed in phh settings as BT still gives no audio, connects fine, but no audio output and intermittent disconnects
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
No audio settings changed in the Phh Treble menu. So far the only thing I've enabled there is double tap to wake, nothing else. My BT earbuds are JBL Tour Pro + TWS, that's the model. No issues so far, no disconnects, no distortion. I'm about 15 mins into a movie and everything sounds the way it should.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
on every android 13 gsi i didnt have to enable that option. the bluetooth worked on PE 13 latest build. sooti's aosp 13, spark os 13 (not 13.1 it didnt work). and arrow os 13 based on andy yaan's patches. others didnt work.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I havent tried any other Android 13 GSIs, so far just PE13. So I can't speak for any others. I was referring to 11/12 GSIs in that statement.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] G3NiSyS_:
which of these versions is compatible with samsung s3 neo i9301?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
thats a bit ambitious, dont you think?
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] G3NiSyS_:
Yes! that's why I want to do it
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] G3NiSyS_:
yes! that's why I want to do it
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] 73sydney:
i have to admire your passion :)

But i suspect not with these GSI's, as far as im aware theyre only arm64, and you have an arm device....and you also have an A only device, and these are made for A/B devices

im not a GSI expert, ive only flashed 3 of them in my entire long Android career, and only recently - on my S20+, but even from the master list of GSI found here, looks like you'd be limited:

Generic System Image (GSI) list

Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

This might also help:

Treble Info - Apps on Google Play

Helps you check Project Treble, A/B and Architecture for GSI installation

play.google.com
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Compile your own GSI from source code. Create your own ROM. If what is out there isn't to your liking. Easier said than done, but it would be a real learning experience for you.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
just started daily driving PE 13 latest alpha because I was left with no choice. now this latest alpha has bluetooth working but my headphones keep disconnecting when i leave it idle. its not my headphones. when playing music this doesnt happen but leaving it idle the bluetooth turns off then turns on again then connects and the cycle continues.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Sounds like a power saving thing to me. Either in the ROM, your headphones, or both. My JBL earbuds haven't done that so far.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
its not my headphones for sure. i saw a lot of A13 roms just killing its own core processes. e.g. spark os 13 was killing something that broke the navigation bar for a few secs and then works again. could i disable this power saving? or add bluetooth to backlist? i have litt no other choice. my device's own stock firmware has critical bugs and every other gsi is laggy or has bluetooth problem.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
I'm not saying it definitely is or definitely isn't a power saving measure, that was just a shot in the dark.

Android has a battery optimization list that you can disable on a per app basis. But that's only for apps, there's no way to add Bluetooth to the do not optimize list. Since it's more of a running process in android rather than an app.

Dig through the settings and see if you can find anything that might be optimizing whatever.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
just unrestricted Bluetooth. nope its still happening. i dont even know what to do now. i'll wait for an update i guess and suffer until then.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Have you tried these headphones with any other devices? Or if you have a spare BT headphones laying around, try that with the GSI. It's always best to try to rule out hardware issues first. Just to be sure. In all my years of working with electronics, I oftentimes assumed the hardware was ok. Only to do further testing and discover that the hardware was in fact at fault.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i am very sure it aint the hardware. i was using the same headphones with sooti's aosp 13 for hours without problems on the same phone before i made the switch
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] Captain_cookie_200:
i would go to other gsi's again but this one is the smoothest and has the best battery life out of all of them.
[Treble-Enabled Device Development A/AB ROMS] AnonVendetta:
Most of the GSIs out there are based on the GSIs by @phhusson. Did you try his too?

Whenever I have an issue, I use that as a baseline for testing. Similiar source code, similiar bugs/behavior.