yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
Thanks all for your comments! I try to answer you all in this post.

1- font size can be changed in skin files.

2- that's on the to do list :)

Thanks. I tried it myself and got same results. There's has to be something different on phone's shortcut file.

Nice work! Heh... have to admit it's little bit cryptic. I did have some troubles to name objects logically. But if you have ideas for renaming them, please tell me. Finishing the skin engine is my first priority, so the skins would be compatible also in future releases. Is it ok for me to add this skin in next release?

Yes, I can. I promise that at least before end of the week.

Thanks! What do mean "ApptoDate-Support"? Did you tried chancing the path in settings xml? That exception you post, could come from 5 different place's... heh... i have to work on my exceptions, so we would get more info from them :)

Thanks for all posting here. It's nice see that so many people are interested about this program :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hugoff:
AppToDate is an software for automatic update the software. I think	especially in the development time it is very useful...

see:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=327990

and

http://www.modaco.com/content/apptodate/267789/developers-how-to-include-apptodate-support-advanced/

And yes, i tried changing the path... but when i change it to "\Windows\Startmenü" the error occures... and of cource "\Windows\Start Menu" couldn't be found in an german rom...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
That's was my first guess about AppToDate :) That's a good idea, but i think i have make my own website for that.. so it's not possible at the moment.

But i really take that for consideration, but for know you just have keep track on this thread.

I going to run some tests on ü letter in folder names.. hopefully got it solved by next release.

Btw. I wonder if there's some way to get the path to "start menu" folder universally, so it would need different settings file for different languages. Maybe something in registry? Environment variables? anyone?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hugoff:
with .net compact framework you should be able to use

System.Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.Startmenu)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mr_Gee:
Attached is the same but tweaked to fit the (actual) Diamond

e.g. VGA screens only

this was done quickly, and has some room for improvement
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mr_Gee:
Just some comments,

I'd add

- the option to minimize after launch

- auto start

- shortcut to maximize (could be mapped to a key or menu item in TF3D)

- show icons of the applications

- double vs. single click to launch application

- maybe even click and hold (like iContact)

But I really like it, this app could very well make it to my "essentials" list :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
nice app.. looks good, feels good..

the only things missing is icons and footprint optimization..

request: can you add a setting to tag some apps as favorites? so it shows up, maybe, first on the list?

thanks..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Azimuth21:
Feel free to use the Diamond skin, I kind of want to make some font or abcindexer related improvements sometime in the near future, though, but it's good for now. Looking forward to new versions with mainlist background support.

I have a couple of requests:

1) Icon support. The app is too plain as just text; showing the program icons would be great. Possibly cached?

2) NET .CF leads to pretty slowloading apps, so might I suggest changing the program language before you get in too deep in this version? If not, that's fine, too; this program is potentially too useful to pass up anyway.

By the way, the today wallpaper is something like stwater.gif and tdywater.gif in the windows file.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jerpelea:
hy

app is beautifull small and fast

only problem found is that it does not launc any app

i did not find why

Please add icons to list

renamed the exe as folderview.exe and included it in m2d

Best regards and thanks for your hard work
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m.schmidler:
didn´t test this yet but looks promising. As I wrote in another thread, I was looking for a REAL start menu replacement, maybe with a plug-in system for setting backlight strength, volume, flightmode, "create new appointment"-button and of course launching apps.

Don´t know how skilled you are, but it would be really great if you could do this or at least something similar, so there´s a real freeware alternative to the standard start menu.

regards,

Martin
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sudist:
NetCF 2.0

Demand :

Version using NetCF 2.0?

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] girl of rock:
thx very good post

thx very good post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RDT:
Yes, I have the same problem (with Czech ROM). My patch is "\Windows\Nabídka Start\" :D.

I don't know why Microsoft is doing it this way :rolleyes:. Much better would be the same name for all.

Of course, rename the folder to the "Start" does not work - Then, does not appear any :D.

But otherwise excellent application ;).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
Thanks! That's just what i was looking for.

Thanks for the skin and comments.

-autostart? what do you mean?

-shortcut to maximize, it should do the trick just launching the program again

-minimize after launch, good idea, going to solve how that could be done...

-show icons. it's coming some day, be patient:) i have to do some research how to extract icons from exectubles. If someone know how to do that it would be great.

Thanks for info about wallpaper. I'm very aware CFs slow starting times, but unfortunately i'm not switch to native anytime soon, .NET code is so much easier to read and modify. But I will make it easier to stay on backgorund and going to minimize memory footprint after I got all the essential features working.

That's seems strange, you're using wwe (english) rom?

I´m going to do some work on this today, maybe could have new version on our hands by the end of today.

Little story for the end:

yesterday I was wondering whether i should upload this program to other sites also so people who aren't members of this forum could download it too.

Then by change, i googled my program, instead of normal googleling my name, and i was amazed, it's really out there.

They weren't lying when they said the web is world wide... in conclusion it seems that i don't have to bother about people's access to this program :)

btw. I haven't said that this is freeware, it is, and will be in future, but haven't said it in past :)

So now it is declared it's FREEWARE. Still, all DONATIONS are mostly welcome :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Gogeta07:
good idea

But on my P3600 after lunch some appl. it crash!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] digidigi123:
Nice app!

I also wait for a version, that work with NetCF 2.0.

Thanks digi
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Thanks for making the 2.0 version.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ph3lan:
CF 2.0

CF 2.0 version is available to download?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
Here's .NET 2.0 build of 0.0.2 version. Nothing new, just rebuild with CF2.0. Just the exe file. Install original cab and replace exe.

I find it couple seconds slower to start.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
Using the quick access bar is a bit tough, because the alphabets are very small. May I suggest adopting iContact method instead, or built in iContact method as an alternative.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sinoo:
Any solution yet? I can't wait to try it!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
0.0.3 TouchLaunch is out!

New version is out! And tomorrow also CF2.0 version of it :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] secoseco:
Hi avellant

I just test V 0.0.3 and get this error while I try to launch calender

TouchLaunch.exe

Exception

Error running file: \Windows\Start Menu\Calendar.lnk

at FileListNS.FileList.RunAt(Int32 i)

at TouchLaunch.mainForm.runShortcut(Object sender, EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnDoubleClick(EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

at TouchLaunch.Program.Main()

am using Polaris with Touch-IT m2d BETA v3.6 (3D) Rom

PS: last version working with no error with the same rom

and can you put the program in zip not in cab version as you still develop this app

thx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jdiperla:
Sorry if this has been asked, but any hope of it being a today plugin at some point?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hugoff:
works perfect for me on my german rom, thx... and the idea with the today screen background is real great... :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chuckbert:
WOW

@avellant

i love your prog!!! great and very handy!

is there a way to change the resolution to 240x400 for my omnia?

that would be just awful!!!

thanx in advance

chuckbert
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stutzedward:
V0.0.3 is very nice, I like the bitmap background but it can't use the Diamond theme anymore. Otherwise it's getting bettter!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
I can't wait. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shadowmike:
chuck .. in the skins folder you will find the skin.xml files. open the one you use up and look for the objects there are 3 that deal with res.

MainForm's properties
<OBJECT>
<NAME>mainForm</NAME>
<BGCOLOR>105105105</BGCOLOR>
<FORECOLOR>245245245</FORECOLOR>
<X>0</X>
<Y>26</Y>
<WIDTH>240</WIDTH>
<HEIGHT>268</HEIGHT>
<FONTNAME>Tahoma</FONTNAME>
<FONTSIZE>10</FONTSIZE>
<FONTSTYLE>regular</FONTSTYLE>
</OBJECT>

Alphabetbar's properties
<OBJECT>
<NAME>abcIndexer</NAME>
<BGCOLOR>105105105</BGCOLOR>
<FORECOLOR>245245245</FORECOLOR>
<X>0</X>
<Y>0</Y>
<WIDTH>22</WIDTH>
<HEIGHT>268</HEIGHT>
<FONTNAME>Tahoma</FONTNAME>
<FONTSIZE>7</FONTSIZE>
<FONTSTYLE>regular</FONTSTYLE>
</OBJECT>

ShotcutList's properties
<OBJECT>
<NAME>mainList</NAME>
<BGCOLOR>105105105</BGCOLOR>
<FORECOLOR>245245245</FORECOLOR>
<X>22</X>
<Y>0</Y>
<WIDTH>218</WIDTH>
<HEIGHT>268</HEIGHT>
<FONTNAME>Tahoma</FONTNAME>
<FONTSIZE>10</FONTSIZE>
<FONTSTYLE>regular</FONTSTYLE>
</OBJECT>

Just change the height to match what it should be.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stutzedward:
THanks! Very nice and I am using it now. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
repacked 0.0.3!

I got the same result. Strange it wasn't on last version... I didn't change anything related launching programs :O it seems it has some problems to launch programs, that are part of some process... have to investigate that..

Now there's also zip version.

maybe in future...

To chuckbert, I see you got already a answer:)

I included modified Diamond theme to last package.

Thanks to Shadowmike for a great skin!

Few words about new version:

It seems the memory usage jumped up, if using background bitmaps. I believe it can tweaked somehow, haven't really much of experience memory optimization on .NET, but i'm learning :D

I also added separotors to mainmenu so it's easier to use with thumbs, though it's now disturbingly ugly...

Can someone tell how can I modify Menu Class in .NET? can I override OnPaint function? I would not like to be forced building new menu class from scratch.

In next version, I'm going to make indexshower also skinnable ( maybe transparency is a option )... Also skin file's should have different layouts for different resolutions, i think, and also could be good idea to pack all skins's files in one file? I hopefully i get a solution for crashing when launching few certain programs.

About resolution awareness, does anyone have tips? I earlier tried to catch orientation changes with poor success.

I would like to add option to completely replace Programs menu with this. As I understood it folderview is the file? So replacing it should replace the menu.

I was wondering how safe is that? folderview is on rom, if i replace it will stay, but can I delete the new safely ( or at all ? ). I remember having some trouble dealing with files in rom in past. Has any of you ever replaced that file?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sinoo:
It is awesome so far!

But if you add fullscreen support with the topbar of A.C.'s apps and add AppToDate support it will be the best app ever! ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
I did test replacing folderview, with my own. No conflictions, can replace it and by deleting it the old version "comes back". But it didn't affect on start menu's program shortcut. So it's quite useless for me.

But I post the file, if someany have any use for it. It's simple exe file which launches TouhcLaunch from mainmemory ( it cannot be installed on storage card, if you use this exe ).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Azimuth21:
Here's an updated version of the Diamond skin. I fixed the overlayshadow, as well as added a black version. Both of the skins have backgrounds, so you need to copy everything in this zip to the skins folder.

Another note: I ran into some issues when trying to make the index show on the left, but since I only use right index, I didn't finish moving the index to the left. If someone could do that for me, I'd appreciate it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] uniqueboy:
How are you doing with the icons? It occurred to me it would be a nice touch to be able to add our own personal icons, mostly because I have a lot of apps still in development installed that often don't have an icon as such. In those cases it would be nice to have a folder of generic icons which I could choose one for the desired app. there are a lot of icons out there, especially for ultimate launch, which seems like a bit of a nonsense compared with your so elegant launcher. Maybe though also it would be convenient for the user if folder shortcuts could be added from an options dialogue. Nice, very nice work. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jolas:
Startmenupath?

Can we set the STARTMENUPATH option, in new version?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tsclub1206:
thx~~good app
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stutzedward:
Call me greedy, I am waiting for version 0.04! Hahaha.... this is definately getting better on each release.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Thanks, I can't wait to try this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frederikk:
Hi, just a question, what is the version 0.0.3 repacked without comments ? There is one for CF2 CF2 and CF3.5 and the third one ?

Ciao

Fred
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
The list object support icons, but i haven't yet to found a way extract them from executables.

The new version reads startmenupath from system. So you shoudn't need to change it?

:D sorry about those names. That's the CF3.5 version cab.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] uniqueboy:
Somebody here must know how to do that. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frederikk:
No problemo :)

Will try it on my diamond.

Ciao

Fred
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sinoo:
Cool app.

But two things:

Can you change it that way, that the list is in tree form. Like my startmenu!

Blending to left and right with a back button?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jolas:
I mean if we can set a different "startmenupath" that the one it reads.

In previous version, I have set a diferrent folder than the ".../windows/programs/start menu...", to be displayed in thouchlaunch.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
No you can't, i disabled that function. But I can bring it back for next version if you want. But i don't understand why you need that function. Please tell me :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ekonkar:
Some Other Skins

Here are the Skins I made for this Beautiful App.Many thanx to the developer of this great App.

Actually this is my first attempt creating a skin.So please be kind in making any feedbacks.Hope You All Enjoy,B'caz I Know that I do.

Edit : Unfortunately I'm unable to attach the files right now.Will retry after some time.Till than Sorry!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djk1:
Is there a way to make the "all programs" in the 2d manila programs tab to link to this guy?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chuckbert:
wohooo!

that did the trick for me!

thanx, my friend!!!

now the app is an absolute "must have"!!!

regards

chuckbert
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] digidigi123:
I also like to set a different folder. I don't need all application from the start menu. I put some shortcuts in a different folder.

Thanks digidigi123
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jolas:
The reason is that I don't want the launcher to point to all the shotrcuts that exists in the startmenu folder, but onle a few of them, that I put in a separate folder. (In that way I have a better responce time and less memory consumption)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ekonkar:
Skins Uploaded

Another try and this time succeeded. Enjoy....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ixtana_ran:
Not opening programs on tap?

Is anyone else having this problem?, takes a load of taps to get a program to open? touch screen not sensitive enough?

Tried L3v5y scroll launcher and that worked.

Any idea for a fix?

Great program anyway thanks for developing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] andrew-in-woking:
Embedding in Manila 2D

Hi all,

Here's what I did to get TouchLaunch to work with Manila2D:

1) Deactivate M2d through Settings>Personal>Today>Itmes

1) (Optional) Download the M2D TouchLaunch theme from this thread and copy the files into your "Themes" folder in the TouchLaunch folder.

2) Manually edit "Settings.xml" to select the theme you want and for it to close in the way you want.

3) Rename "TouchLaunch.exe" to "folderview.exe".

4) Copy "folderview.exe", "Settings.xml" and the themes folder into your windows folder (\Windows). N.B. You will be asked to overwrite "folderview.exe". This is correct. You may want to back this file up in case you want to revert to the previous functionality.

5) Re-enable M2d and when you go to the programs tab and select "All Programs" you will go to TouchLaunch.

6) If you have installed TouchLaunch from a cab and want your start menu link to work you will need to rename the original .exe back to the original name (probably "TouchLaunch.exe")

N.B. You may need a powerful file explorer such as Total Commander if your M2D is cooked into the ROM.

This method worked for me.

Cheers,

andrew-in-woking
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Soikiro:
this is a cool app! but i have a request for the future...it's possible view the icon in the program list name?

thx bro
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] m.schmidler:
just have a look at the first page:

So, if anybody knows how to, please help avellant.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Soikiro:
i'm so sorry...but i'm not a programmer..and i don't have idea
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] avellant:
Little teaser :)

Changes will be:

-Show Icons ( with transparency background ), managed to get them working :D

-5 times smaller memory footprint ( less than 500 kb, with full graphics )

-option to replace folderview.exe

and more...

i'm going to improve skinning engine and also fix couple bugs so i'm not releasing it yet...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FatBoyExtraordinaire:
Looking great!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Xi i like this app.

Is realy good, Thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stutzedward:
I can't wait to have this out!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr4g0n75:
thank you, very helpful...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djk1:
Sweet program, the M2d directions helped. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to updates!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zarxic:
I'd also like to throw my vote in for being able to point this to show a different folder of shortcuts other than the built in start menu. It's very useful for being able to put the most used programs in a folder together so that I can get to them without having to scroll past those programs I open once a month or less...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ekonkar:
Some Skins

Everytime I try to upload files,can't succeed.Don't know why?

Edit :- Succeeded this time.Hope you all enjoy....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ytsejam_:
i also agree with this guy's suggestion.. or better off.. as a solution, maybe we can tag some applications as FAVORITES, so that shortcuts tagged 'favorites' appears FIRST in the list before the other not-so-significant apps..

also, @avellant, for the next release, is it possible to have the icons on the right side (right aligned - via the skin) instead of before the text? so it will not look too much crowded or unbalanced towards the left side of the screen.

another suggestion/request is subfolder support? because i organize my apps/shortcuts by category, eg. games, office, settings (as in settings for Ftouchflo, s2u2, HS++, etc), thus putting them into respective directories..

i don't usually take track on the filenames of different shortcuts, since i only know them by location (folder) and icon so having ALL in one single list kinda makes me lost. don't take offense.. i like your program a lot..

it's kinda like this scenario.. i'm on a train ride home.. and i feel like i want to play a game or two on my wizard.. but i'm not quite yet sure what to play.. so i go to programs>games, look at all the icons/shortcuts for games , and then, choose a game i like.

on a unified list (like TL 0.0.3).. it's hard to chose because all the shortcuts to games are scattered on the alphabetical listing. you got to "first know and make sure of what you need" before doing so.

So, i need to remember first (from my memory) all the games installed on my PPC ( i have almost 30 of em), make a list on my mind, decide on my mind (for example i chose Solitaire), and then, and only then will i press S on the side index and look for Solitaire.

so if you just please have subfolder support.. i would really really love it.. that's the only thing that's preventing me from tottaly replacing the folderview (and the typical Programs menu) from my phone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stutzedward:
I am still eagerly waiting for v0.0.4, I want the icon thingy beside the applications :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] popdog54:
You can do this yourself be renaming the shortcuts, ie aas2u2, aas2p, etc...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pilgrim011:
Very nice app, but there is a serious memory issue - while it's running, it occupies more then 10 MB of free RAM...:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] digidigi123:
No problem here, app use about 1,6 free RAM.

Can't wait for the new version, very nice and usefull app.

PS. I use version 0.2 and make my own folder with only eight shortcuts.