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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] gmoz:
Curious - how did you manage to get that pakconvert script working in the first place with this little info? I had to edit the file before it would even run at all, and even then it gave some errors, though they didn't seem to really affect the process..

For whatever reason, Q3 always either gets stuck or crashes to today screen when it starts loading a level. I've tried all the tricks in this thread (the .cfg files, disabled TouchFlo etc.), but it just doesn't run.

I do wonder if there's something I overlooked or something? Anyone got any ideas? Would be appreciated.

I doubt I'd really play it even if I got it working, but it would be cool to show "hey, I have Quake 3 on my phone" ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] koven:
Well it worked fine with shine on 2.0, with shine on 2.2 it does crush while loading. The difference is in free RAM :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] courtlandre:
How do you control this game? I mean, the D-pad kinda sucks... I assume you look with the stylus.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kwaille:
Tested with bepe 0.99dx and 41% memory usage.

After a bootloader flash (no boot with kinda bsod like),and two hours of work,managed to launch q3!

Well,I get 1/4fps.................:) ^^

I dream about your 5 fps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] koven:
er... I had 12fps shown, but it run fast enough to play
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Baronic:
well, it says 5fps, but whatever it is, its still unplayable. well, u CAN play, but its....un-win-able? lol. on any difficulty setting above easiest. cuz of the fps
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rafter_01:
Hi,

on the QUAKE 3 CONSOLE,

I keep getting the message 0 files in pk3 files.. why is this?

ive downloaded the pk3 files
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] rafter_01:
anyone have a fix for this issue?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mikeeey:
bump.

I'd just like to point out that half the time quake 3 will run and the other half the time it either starts to launch and then closes, or it restarts my device.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
Wow, getting COD2 hw accelerated has shown me what's possible. These phones have awesome gaming potential.

Q3:

If we can get this working with the open arena version of the game, we can get a distributable version hosted somewhere.

Also of interest is getting it to run in fullscreen resolutions of less than vga to improve framerate. Later, we can squeeze more performance out by finding the best q3config settings for this hardware.

I have made a start.

First I tried just dropping in the baseoa files from open arena into the baseq3 folder, and it loads and goes throught the menus before shutting down on 'Loading game media'

I then ran pakconvert on the OA game after editing the pakconvert.sh, and that produced a new pak0.pk3 file.

Same result using this in the game though, gets so far and quits. Is there an option to log what's happening to a file?

I was able to get the game to run in QVGA by loading the exe into visual studio and deleting the hi res enable flag before saving.

The only thing is, it did not go full screen but ran in the top left.

I then used ProgResoSwap to generate a .mui file for the new .exe, hoping this would get the qvga app to go full screen, and it seems to work, but I can't get into the actual game, so I can't verify this.

I think we can edit pakconvert a bit to get the images a more suitable size for running qvga too, which would be better.

I have a Touch Pro with a 1.90 rom.

Anyone prepared to try this and report back? I havn't tried it on mine with the full game, as I don't have it.

If we can get this working, I will complete my project of using the gsensor to generate low level keystroke events, suitable for gaming.

Imagine, q3 running at 20fps, with movement controlled by tilting the device? Now that would be worth sticking on Youtube.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Kampf Kobold:
Every time i try to unzip with Winrar it tells me its broken. How to use "Windows compressed files" under Vista?

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
From this page: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=174558

You can try this:

1. Click Start, type regedit.exe and press Enter

2. Navigate to the following branch:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\[extention here]

3. Delete the sub-key named "UserChoice"

4. Close Regedit.exe

I don't have this key as I'm using XP so I can't test it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
it's already done, but not by mister billou "bling-bling" gates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvci1vTXyUo

Yes, iPhone > wmob. Period. :mad:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
Yes I've seen that video, but thanks for pointing it out.

I was referring to the possibility of doing this on the Raphael/Diamond.

I am not jealous of the iPhone's capabilities. I'm happy with my Raphael thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
i've already tried g-controller to simulate this, but it crashes because of 100% memory usage of quake3. there should be a way of limiting q3ce to use all available memory to some degree, that'll keep q3 and other apps from crashing.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
I tried gcontroller on COD2, but it didn't respond.

There are many comments on the gcontroller thread relating to gaming, and the author had promised to address the issue, but as far as I can tell, he has lost the code and the project is in danger of dying.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eazy2001x:
i get could not find q3config.cfg on startup..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nuke1:
*bump*

Keep the project alive.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Renex06:
fail

i can't get the game running

i did what you sad, but i get an error:

''Couldn't load default.cfg''

whats wrong?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] stevena3:
+1

Yes, don't let the Symbian beat us! (New on Nov 27th)

Even worse when the ipod touch *cringe* can do it. (really smoothly I might add)

Sidenote: Even if someone can get a much less demanding game such as GTA2 or Diablo II working on our phones, we will be unstoppable!c:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mikeeey:
I know a guy who started a starcraft project on his 6800.

I know another guy who started to port Command and Conquer Red Alert.

not much progress on them however...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] x10dude:
I get the same error. Running on Touch Pro.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
Yes, quake 3 works perfectly on nokia n82 (symbian s60)! That has a TI OMAP 2420 CPU @ 330 MHz, chipset launched in 2005!!

The prove: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1i4fOCrCv0

Antialiasing ON + tv output..

and diamond/touch pro has 528Mhz. those qualcomm cpus.. what a shame..

Quake 3 in action on touch pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8_wfWaYa_w

The videos say it all.

@x10dude, downlaod this. Don't forget to "pakconvert" the pak0.pk3 before copying to mobile.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
Great post, but I believe this is a slightly unfair comparison.

The Raphael version is running at 640x480, which is 4x the pixels per frame of the Nokia. This makes a difference.

I'm not saying the Raphael hardware is better, cos it's not, but it is actually comparable if you analyse the available benchmarking data on a level footing.

I mentioned in a previous post, it would be good to work out how to get the game running in qvga with the right icon sizes, and I made a start on it, but I need some help.

I still believe this can run very well on these phones.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nutcracker2:
I'm propably some kind of a retard, but can someone write some VERY simple solution how to install it? what files do I need to do that and stuff coz I can't get it working and all the posts before aren't helping me at all.

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
Thanks. True about VGA. But as I've already posted this on the another Quake3 thread (a mod should merge the posts):

So, VGA resolution can be removed from the equation. What is left is the qualcomm CPU and qualcomm GPU (I've heard that's an ATI Imagion embedded solution).

I will try q3ce_lores.exe and report soon.

@nutcracker2 ok, i'll try to write some instructions for installing Quake3.

Download this.

Extract the content to C:\Quake3 for eg

Get the "pack0.pk3" from original Quake 3 (it's inside baseq3 folder)

Copy pack0.pk3 in C:\Quake3\baseq3

That pk3 needs to be adapted, here we need packconvert.

Open "Command prompt" (run > cmd) and go to the folder where you've extracted the files (cd c:\Quake3\pakconvert). Now you write in the cmd console: bash ./pakconvert.sh ../ (if there appeara a prompt to overwrite an existing file, just press and keep pressed enter if there are too many)

Now you have to wait a bit.. this operation takes some time.

When all are finish, you can copy the Quake 3 folder to the device (of course without packconvert subfolder, you don't need that on your device)

That's all. Maybe it seems complicated but it's not. It works 100%.

Note: if you omit to pakconvert the pk3 file the game imediatelly quits before starting a "play". I know this from my personal experience, I omitted the packconvert step.. again, if you follow all the steps the game will work.

Also, you can try this config file, you should get a slightly better FPS rate. You have to rename it to q3config.cfg and overwrite the one from \Quake 3\BASEQ3\ (on your device). Credit for this file goes to "Nonamekroon".

L.E: jamesd256 I've tried your file but unfortunately the same low FPS rate :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
Did the lores file run in full screen? Was it QVGA or VGA?

It's true the Dell axims are much better equipped for HW accelerated VGA than the Raphael, but I think if the game was compiled or configured properly for QVGA (which would look fine as long as pakconvert made smaller icons n stuff), it would beat the N82, but more importantly, give a smooth game.

I'm going on the GLBenchmark charts here, and assuming that framerate is directly proportional to resolution, which in my experience is generally true (there are bottlenecks in some systems that make this not apply).

Also, I have to doubt that the N82 could render COD2 in VGA (if it had a VGA screen) the way the Raphael does.

So, tantalising clues that the Raphael could do more. I wonder I'll ever see it now I've played with a G1.

The boring thing is, we don't even need VGA for a great gaming experience on such a small screen, which is why I've asked before about running the entire Touch Pro OS in QVGA. I loved VGA on the Athena, but I feel it's wasted on these phones, and just chunks down the performance.

I used to run Nyditot virtual display @ QVGA on the Athena for TomTom, and it was very fast compared to VGA. NVD doesn't work on the Raph. Shame.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
I've tested both resolutions. VGA and QVGA (set from game options). Same low framerate.

It runs fulscreen. I've sent you a PM.

I was thinking that's like on desktop PC. If your system resolution is set at 1024x768, you can set the ingame resolution to 800x640 to gain more frames. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say. That's why I say that not the VGA resolution is the problem, but the GPU or CPU (I still hope that this is fixable with proper drivers).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
Yes I see your point, you could be right. I'll have a proper test of the full version soon.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Wishmaster89:
I think that we need new port. It seems that the current one is badly optimized or unfinished. We need to find someone like Ohinkka that will write a new one from the scratch so he could optimise it for current devices based on ARMv6 and ARMv7(cortex A8 and A9) processors cause the current one was written for xscale processor which was ARMv5. But where can we find someone like that? Any ideas?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=415873
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] GSMRULES:
Cannot decompress ZIP

I tried to decompress the file and it doesn't seems to work. I tried to decompress both, directly on my phone and on my PC. On my PC i have winrar installed, on my phone, no special zip software, just tried to use windows file explorer.

Any ideas?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
See my post - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2985884&postcount=91 . Download from there.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
BTW, I have downloaded the source for this. It says in the documentation for the project:

"1. Screen resolution. You can't change it. The game will run at whatever resolution your LCD screen is natively."

In other words, it makes no difference what resolution you choose via the menus, it will always run in VGA with this build.

That explains a lot to me.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] arasarn:
cdma diamond

any reason why this wouldn't work on a cdma diamond?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
why it doesnt run? what happens? does it tells any message? did u disabled touchflo3d? how did u installed it?

jeezz im not your parents :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
No. By the sounds of it, you havn't tried it right? I can't see why being CDMA would affect this game. Worth giving it a go. Let us know.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
I see.. But we have to admit that it's way better on Dell Axim x51v which is too a VGA dev. At least ATM..

Do you think that you can improve the code? :P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
Yup Axims have superior 3d hardware no doubt, but they are just about the fastest 3d handhelds around.

To optimise the code for the Raphael would be possible in 2 ways:

1: Compile a version that is QVGA only.

This should be fairly simple and I plan to have a go at this as soon as other life commitments allow.

2: Optimise the code for the raph's particular flavour of arm, and tweak the 3d to suite the available HW

While not beyond me, I have too many other pots on the boil to take on this challenge. As I'm no 3d gaming coder, It would take me several weeks. There are very few people who would find this work quick and easy.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nuke1:
Hello there,

Just wondering if someone can tell me the pakconversion process in brief.

I used cmd but I get an error message saying I haven't chosen the right Q3 directory.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mietulok:
Hello

I am no good at all at this converting stuff. I have tried a few times and I guess I don't quite understand how to do it properly. Wouild it be a problem if I asked for a link to such pakconvert'ed files, or a step by step instruction?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] jamesd256:
I don't want to spend too much time explaining how it works, but you can edit the pakconvert.sh file yourself and get a good idea. If you can't find the q3 folder, try relative and absolute paths. Keep trying.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
I've already posted the instructions here.. I've used relative path and worked withot any problem.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mietulok:
Thanx DSF

your instructions are very clear and I did everything without any error messages. The game still doesn't run on my device and I wonder why. My pak0.pk3 file after running the conversion is over 400mb, is it ok that it's so big? the error message says that file q3ce.exe cannot be opened, -:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] stevena3:
Bump

Keepin it alive.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lattiS710:
I cant get it to work. Ive tried it on three different roms. Its starts and the grey console is typing a lot of text then when it is supposed to start Id return to the homescreen.

Help? :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mietulok:
well it works finally on my device but the framework is so poor that it doesn't make much sense, I get just a sequence of pictures instead of fluent action so I'm in fact unable to play it. I'm using athena x7500- perhaps it's not powerful enough to run this game. It's a pity as I love quake 3.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nuke1:
Turn off TouchFlo 3D; the game consumes an insane amount of RAM.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lattiS710:
Yes, Ive turned off TF3D, it still doesnt work...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nuke1:
What percentage does your phone show when you turn off RAM? It should be around 40-43%. 45, 46% gave me problems. Also, are you sure that the pakconversion procedure has been carried out correctly?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lattiS710:
ye got it work now with 1-2 fps with highfps config... some tips???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pazookie:
alright everybody i FINALLY got this to work (pakconvert doesnt work in vista..TRIED EVERYTHING..so booted up xp and got it to convert) so i load it up and i get an insufficient mem error (i currently had 124)..so i kill EVERY 3rd party process i can find freeing up a total of 134 and it boots but gosh is the menu SLOW.. took me forever just to get a game started and after that it reset my device when i started the game (after all the color icons loaded on the bottom)...im running romeos 1.60.2 rom on my att fuze and a 8gb kingston class 5 microsd with a FRESH boot and TF3D DISABLED
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nuke1:
Install the drivers on the first post (entitled Dutty posted the 3D driver for Diamond...), then let us know. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=442712

If anyone is a programmer and can help out JamesD a few pages back, we'd be much obliged, and thank you in advance.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] VerusAmos:
I tried this but it didn't work. There was a temp folder created though, but the whole Quake 3 folder became bigger than 1000 mb. So I thought, that can't be right... I will try it on XP tomorrow though I have Vista)...

But really, cant sb. just create a nice cab or something??? That would be much easier than explaining all these different "solutions"...:p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
Guys check this out :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UQVHJ3UFaA&feature=related
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eazy2001x:
sick.. now you can network them on your phone..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] giddy:
i'm sorry if this question has been answered but the pak files the first post is talk about is pak0.pak3? right?

How big are the files? I've got one link at 157MB and another at 450+ MB?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] giddy:
hey,

I got the whole thing done, but when I run it on my diamond without libGLES_CM.dll it says invalid pocket pc application, also, with the file it runs at 2 fps(it sucks) and its potrait.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
you sure??? no kiddin' :rolleyes:

same as you (here it ranges from 5 to 20).

yes, that's a major problem, being portrait. the world would be a better place if it ran in landscape :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] DSF:
look how great it runs on Nokia N95 (look at specs!!, hardware wise is inferior to our phones, at least "in paper")

And it even uses BT mouse & keyboard + TVout.. so even more resources wasted.

"Average FPS are about 20 with FSAA enabled."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvPjhM_nWFQ

wm pwned! :(

When will get something like this on our devices?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kultus:
when you ll buy PSP:D like me...even dell x50v didnt satisfy me...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] adwinp:
Can someone upload the gx.dll file to mediafire?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Hedi86:
I have now tried Quake3 on my HTC Touch HD to install.

Pakconvert extent has worked.

If I q3ce.exe but now want to start in the explorer, the message that there is not a valid application for Pocket PC is.

what have I done wrong?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
gx.dll is impossible to copy/edit while the phone is running.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] warenbe:
it's beacause the game don't have enough memory

i've the same problem!

i already been able to launch the game without TF3D but since this day i can't launch the game anymore...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Numptyfied:
Hello everyone...I know this thread is somewhat old now but I come asking for advice. I have done everything this thread has advised with regards to getting quake 3 running on my HTC touch HD. The problem im having is with the pakconverter. Im running windows vista 32bit and despite putting every exe that the converter uses in compatibility mode for windows xp the conversion process still fails with the following error messages:

"1 [main] bash 8050 fork_copy: linked dll/bss pass 0 failed, 0x32D000.

.0x32D020, done 0, windows pid 4216, win32 error 487 ./pakconvert.sh:

fork: resource temporarily unavailable"

the number after "bash" and the win32 error also change constantly but

the rest stays essentially the same.

Has anyone else encountered this before? It finds the pak0.pk3 starts converting it but then terminates in this error. I have tried downloading every single version of the files but since I need the pak0.pk3 file im stumped. Any advices is greatly appreciated.

many thanks

:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Deadadam666:
am having same problem help anyone !"
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MrMoustache:
I had the same problem in windows vista 32/64.

Eventually I switched to XP, worked fine.

I had to add "C:\Q3\pakconvert;" (the pakconvert directory) to my path variable though. This is something I didn't try in windows vista.

The path variable can be found in the configuration screen, under system, then selecting advanced system settings, environment variables.

Anyway, I figured all this out, but now Q3 seems to crash a few moments after I run it,

I'm using the build from the startpost. I'm also still running touchflo3d, since I'm not really sure about how to disable/enable that quickly.

Does anyone have a suggestion or quickfix for this crash?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nathantjuuh:
problem

when i start up quake it works but when it want's to opens the maps it closes the hole game PLEASE HELP I LOVE THE GAME

sorry for my bad inglish:( i am dutch:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lewdog444:
one of the main reasons i got this phone was to play this game on it, lol... but can't get it to run either... got a valid copy, but pakconvert will not work for me?! running vista? maybe a problem... i got error "could not find /tmp" and then more errors after that?!

please help, anyone out there!?!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iRiKi:
new mirror :) http://rapidshare.com/files/274930601/q3ce-1.1a-release-armv4-diamond.zip
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] dearmasfamily:
ok. now after weeks of tweaking and custom video drivers on my sprint touch pro. i have quake 3 running at 20- 25 fps or better. if you would like the same pm me. would love take you threw the process. great game when you have it running as fast as me cheers