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[OnePlus 9 Pro] kingbasescu:
I bought the op 8 pro at a discount but returned it because the screen had insane levels of black crush and 60hz was giving me touch latency even a bit higher than what you get on some 300$ phones which was very annoying, it's not like I can design the apps myself to force them to stay at 120hz with no glitches.

How does the 9 pro touch latency at 60hz compare to older oneplus phones like the 8 pro? Haven't found complaints as can easily be found with the 8 pro 7 pro and so on, but also haven't seen anybody ask about it so I thought I should as I can only get to try the phone by buying it and I wanna avoid returning yet another phone.
[OnePlus 9 Pro] RicardoDimm:
Why not run it on 120Hz?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] efjbdejong:
problem is solved
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I would like to know the same. It would be nice to be able to toggle the storage card off/on when needed to save batt and program memory.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
I found a program called BLmanualSD. It installs this link: \Windows\Programs\Startmenu\Accessories\SD Card Switcher. I can now toggle between storage card started and stopped. It works OK so far, we'll see...

I'm using WM6 on an ipaq hx4700 pda (not a phone) I've got both a CF and SD slot on this device and with an SD card in the slot it uses atleast 1MB of program memory just sitting there. I could always just remove the card when not in use, but with this it's more convenient. I don't know about your omnia. Take your chances. Backup first, etc etc

edit: should have noticed before. it looks like it won't survive a suspend (ie off/on) which makes it pretty useless unfortunately.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially since I don't use any new apps than on my other phones and in the battery stats it doesn't really show any user apps that use a lot.

Anyone has way to measure what system/user apps drain during standby? Or even better, any dev that could do a deeper dive into this?

For example, I just lost 32% battery while sleeping for about 8h, it has never been this much on any other of my previous phones (OnePlus Nord/Pixel 3a/Pixel 3/Pixel 2).

In fact, my OnePlus Nord with 815mAh more than the Flip3 is currently on last charge 3 days ago (it doesn't show me hours anymore) and 2h35m SOT and 25% battery left. On the Flip I just now got 17h with 1h30m SOT and 5% left. Settings all similar besides location accuracy turned off for the Flip as that was a massive drain.

Something must be unintentionally draining the battery during standby and I really hope one of you smart guys can find it. Or Samsung fixes it with an update..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ione2380:
How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Got it 4 days ago
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
Not true. Samsung has a bunch of features still in use.

Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").

Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.

Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I've turned a few things off there, but a lot of them OnePlus has too + a few more, which I had all enabled

I didn't really get any notification during last night, so I doubt this was the culprit

Yes I'm using that app and have it set to 48-96Hz

Appreciate the help, I believe there must be something that's unintentionally draining and while I went through every single setting in the beginning, I'm still very new to OneUI (and also impressed how far it came from the TouchWiz ****show)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
One thing I always forget is that a lot of those features are running services and polling when they're enabled. Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.

The calibration period is also horrible. Android 11 is slow to calibrate the battery and Samsung is worse. You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.

One thing Asus does that I wish Samsung would embrace is Auto-start management. Some apps aren't efficient at polling for notifications and more than once have been the cause of major drain.

Another one even Samsung admits to be a source of drain is the edge panels. If you don't use them, it's best to kill the entire feature.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.

Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
OnePlus also optimizes them better than brand new Samsung firmware. I had a lot of stuff enabled on the Note 20 Ultra that I won't be using for a month or two now.

Some apps are excluded, but it will let you know if it's something not included with the phone.

Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
If you have the unlocked version, they allowed uninstall for a lot of apps that were previously locked. A lot can also be downloaded later from Google Play or the Galaxy Store if you change your mind.

I use Firefox, so I uninstall Samsung Internet and Chrome. Members and Health are two big ones that like to run those "please enable us" services. It's a lot of deciding what you might use versus what you can live without.

Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.

https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-debl...bloating-thread-for-the-s20-u-series.4089089/
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already

I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
So far I don't have much hope sadly. Whole day currently at home and not using the phone much and it's looking like in the screenshot (screen off, loosing almost 2.7% per hour, as comparison my OnePlus is at 0.9% per hour)

It's 21:21 at the moment and I'm at 54% after 9h 42m (comparison OnePlus with 815mAh more: 7% after 79h with 2h54m SOT)

I'll probably head to bed in a few hours and then report back tomorrow morning how much I lost during the night..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
HOLY **** I would love to have this battery life. I'm literally not doing anything with the phone and just loosing so much. I'm pretty much the opposite of a power user, so my phone is in standby most of the time and loosing so much is pretty frustrating.

EDIT: I might have an idea why it's so bad for me, I don't really have reception in my apartment (as you can see on my screenshots), so I assume it's constantly trying to get better receptions, I see 2 bars sometimes, but most of the time 0. I'll keep my phone at the window where I have reception for the rest of the day and see if it makes a difference. (Although the OnePlus has also bad reception, but does have a different carriers SIM card)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] blackhawk:
Dependencies, dependencies, dependencies... some of those apks just sit there unless needed.

Do not disable apks/services unless you know what they do and what, if any, their dependencies are. Go too far and you'll end up in a boot loop.

What works for others probably isn't ideal for you.

Package Disabler is a better option as you easily toggle apks on/off as needed.

Screen off the serial offenders tend to be Google backup Transport, Framework and any cloud apps.

Try disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. You may need to disable Find my Device first as System Administrator if disable is greyed out.

Disabling play services also kills Gmaps and Playstore which are know hogs. Gmail as well to a lesser extent.

Google Firebase, do you need it? If not disable.

Carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback, disable.

Using power management can cause erratic behavior and not solve the problem. Treat each power hog on a case by case basis instead. It takes a lot longer but yields a cleaner, more stable setup.

Play with it, go through -all- the settings. It's actually quit fun to explore and almost impossible to crash and burn.

Try this trick to stop ads globally:
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I set the phone by the window now where it has consistent 2 bars of reception (instead of mainly 0, sometimes 1 or 2), will check it in a few hours..

Just checked AccuBattery and it's showing me that System UI is by FAR the biggest battery drain here, but I guess System UI could be loads of things? I know Google Play Services and Maps shows individually from System UI, so I'd doubt it's that.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
If you perform an uninstall for the user, the app is still installed on the system. If you realize things begin crashing and feel you might have uninstalled something important, restore it.

adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name>
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I've been using this one for my last phone and now the flip and really like it: https://xdaforums.com/t/tool-adb-appcontrol-1-6-5-ultimate-app-manager-debloat-tool.4147837/
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] blackhawk:
Its usage should be around 1%.

It may be a false report and another apk responsible... this can happen.

Try clearing the system cache and that apk's cache. Try setting it back to factory load if its been updated.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Do you have a smartwatch connected?
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
It would make sense though as the battery usage in the Android settings doesn't list System UI and the apps listed there don't even come close to the used battery percentage.

I've been thinking about a factory reset of the device and might need to go this route if I can't find anything else.. I'll try the system cache clearing later today

No I don't use one and bluetooth is turned off
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
I also with zero bars at my place getting %30 loss at nught but I never had this issue with oneplus 8 pro.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] blackhawk:
Not so and not using the Playstore crap.

In any event I firewall block it so it's not doing anything I don't want. Power usage is under 1%, even less if I don't open it.

Been using this apk for years, and unlike adb edits it's a valuable diagnostic tool that can also completely clear data in apks leaving no null marks. Settings can't do this and with a system apk those null marks can screw you up making a data clear ineffective.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] blackhawk:
If you haven't done a major firmware upgrade I would try to find the root cause instead. Otherwise the issue is likely to return.

Malware is another possibility when erratic behavior is observed but no cause found. Being that it's new you have no way to gauge it though.

By default if malware is suspected but can't by found, factory reset.

This is an odd problem. Play with it. See how much memory apks are using. Is there a memory leak in one?

What's been updated if anything? Factory apk loads are sometimes better. See what Playstore updated including the Google apks especially.

Clearing the system cache can cure a bunch of strange malfunctions and is completely painless.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
The optional -k flag is what retains data. By default, it is removed.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] blackhawk:
I use Karma Firewall on all apps that don't need access. Why not?

In PD MDM's case after it's activated my version doesn't need any internet access. Being set as a System Administrator it could rip your lungs out, but it doesn't. Trusted apk... zero issues.

Been on the same outdated OS for over 1.5 years. Current load is over a year old, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance.

No malware forced reloads ever... so yeah I don't have a clue.

I'm not a red spot on the black top.

There's no saving dumb bunnies... anyway
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
Use a firewall and don't give it System Administrator. Seems easy enough to include. Something to consider for the next device you visit. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I think I'm onto something with the bad reception, I'll leave the phone by the window over night and see how it looks tomorrow. So far these are the times I've checked (AOD on, but it's the smallest clock that's only tiny font at the top on the cover screen):

21:40 at 52% (but it was on 52 for a while and also with display in use for a bit)

22:40 at 50%

23:40 at 50%

23:45 at 49%

I'll take note of the battery and time when going to bed and then the same when getting up tomorrow to report here
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] blackhawk:
ADB edits are awkward at best. A dozen or more of my blocked problem packages are used from time to time like Playstore. I can unblock apks in seconds as is needed.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
Original context removed.

Best of luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] Badger50:
Howdy to all. Not that there is anything terribly OT going on, just encouraging all conductors to keep the train on the tracks ;)

Spoiler content hidden.

Derailment's are zero fun. Cheers: Badger50
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
It looks like the reception indeed was the issue for me (even though the OnePlus Nord doesn't have this, I guess Samsung is more aggressive for this setting?)

Phone left at the window with 2 bars

00:03 49%

7:45 43%

I guess I'm glad that I'm moving at the end of the month then lol
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] orgasmic:
Hello, it's a common problem with the bad power of signal state for all mobile phones.

If you don't have a full signal, your phone is trying find out a better one and it will consume a lot battery drain.

If you test during a night the airplane mode, you will see in the morning result quickly :)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
It's just strange to me that the OnePlus wasn't even close to this bad. Even when I was using it with dual SIM and both having very bad signal
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] orgasmic:
It depends on the power management settings by manufacturer.

If you don't use 5G disable it in network settings and keep just 2G/3G/4G

will help a lot.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I did that already as I'm in Germany and it will probably be a few years or longer until we get some useable 5G
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] Gunde:
Try turning off Wi-fi scanning in location accuracy settings. That fixed my standby drain.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Already did as mentioned in the first post. And also found the reason for the standby drain, Samsung is very bad at managing bad phone signal
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
Glad to hear you found an answer, even though it isn't a simple fix. If you have WiFi available, the best thing to do is turn off mobile data at night, but I'm sure you already figured that out on your own.

You may also want to make sure none of the options to switch to mobile data when WiFi is spotty are enabled, since reception is probably just as bad if it goes out at all.

There is an option to manually pick your preferred network that would avoid the constant searching, but it's a lot of effort to manage if it's only an issue at night.

Thanks for investing the effort in tracking down a cause. A lot of people give up and deal, but knowing this stuff is how we push Samsung to do better.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Turning Off data (I have bad signal) overnight did the trick for me
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ahvamaria:
Location gps is a big culpret, like someone else stated, motion, notifications, individual apps that use battery in background, it's not a Oneplus so don't compare. They are very different systems.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
I think you may have quoted the wrong person. I wasn't comparing to OnePlus. I was making suggestions based on my experience with Samsung (Note 4, S7, Note 7, Note 8, S10 Plus, Note 20 Ultra)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ahvamaria:
Ohh my bad I hit wrong persons quote 🤦🏻‍♀️
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Definitely happy with the battery life now. Yes slight recharge as there is a wireless charger where I put my phone in the car, but didn't add much %
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
So two night ago turned off data fixed my issue since I have terrible reception. Last night turned off data but still had %30 drain overnight.

I am on tmobile with unlocked phone and I noticed that when I got to Improve accuracy it always on and when I go inside wifi scanning and Bluetooth scanning is off but I cannot toggle off the improve accuracy option
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Even if you have just mobile data off, the phone will still look for a phone signal to receive calls/sms, so I recon that kills your battery as it's constantly looking for better signal
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
So you saying need to move apt lol
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I have mine just in flight move when in my current apartment as I don't really use my phone to call a lot. And nobody in Germany uses SMS so that's not an issue either.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Maybe ill adopt the airplane mode overnight..
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Anyone can toggle off their improve accuracy button?

I dont mean the wifi and Bluetooth scanning, the top improve accuracy in the picture I submitted above
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
I don't have that button
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
What version of the phone you have? I have unlocked with t-mobile sim
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Pretty sure we only have unlocked versions here.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
What carrier you using?

When I toggle that button off I get a carrier hub processing request notification on top and it goes back to on.

I attached a picture of the notification. look at the bottom notification
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
No idea what carrier hub is, never seen it. I'm using mobilcom-debitel who are using the Telekom (T-Mobile) network
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
This is the app and according to reviews its terrible.. Its Tmobile/Sprint system app

Carrier Hub - Apps on Google Play

A system utility for T-Mobile & Sprint, Now Part of T-Mobile devices.

play.google.com
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] M4-NOOB:
Can't you just uninstall it? I never heard of needing an app for a SIM card (maybe ADB uninstall? If it doesn't let you on phone)
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Only disable, gonna give it a try
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] ShayMagen:
Yup that did the trick I was able to toggle off improve accuracy
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] d0x360:
Wow... I've never had that little drain in 5 hours..

Hell I usually see like 2% an hour even with the screen off and me asleep! You are quite lucky.

Anyways (OP) download the app called "don't kill my app" from the play store. You will find the info helpful.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] twistedumbrella:
Luck is accidental. What you get from 10+ years is experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3] d0x360:
Well then I guess when you hit 14 years things stop vanishing from your head. I've been using Android (with root/su) since the Summer of 2008. I was a Verizon tester for the HTC G1. Then in Oct of 2008 I gave the phone back (well it was the 3rd revision) and picked up my Dream at a Verizon store at launch. Then in Jan of 2010 I got my Nexus one and so on.

So experience isn't really the issue, the phone and it's garbage Samsung software is.

I think the drain is due to a bug in a racing game telemetry app. I'd just disable it when I'm not using it but I'm helping the dev with it so I have to leave it running.

I'm testing a few apps for developers actually. Clipto being my favorite because it's fantastic but it's likely my fav because I've essentially shaped the design and allot of the functions.

I do have some preloaded things I need to uninstall. No not disable... completely remove (like Bixby) and no I don't have root because I have the snapdragon version...sigh

I was also being a little hyperbolic, on this phone I've had 3% drain over 8 hours while I was asleep and that's with all the battery optimization crap Samsung does disabled.

This is definitely my last Samsung phone. I've had the note 8, 9, 10+ and now this and I just don't understand the love for Samsung that people have.

Their apps are terrible in many ways, they do cool things with hardware but then don't bother to properly use them because of the software.

The best example I can think of on this phone is the exterior screen. Why doesn't it have some options for notifications? Like a blinking dot or even edge lighting that you can setup like aodnotify. Instead the screen turns on then immediately turns off.

I really miss HTC phones. They always felt solid, they ran great because of well balanced hardware. They had good battery life for the time. They were simple to root... I remember rooting and installing recovery on the One M8. Plug it into your PC and click 1 button. Done..

Ok I'm rambling because I'm exhausted, it's 3am... I gotta stop lol.