yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
MSM flashers don't care about oem lock status, as they wipe the phone on lower level in EDL mode. So, regardless of your settings, the phone will be restored.

Of course, if someone changes roms 5 times per week and flashes all the time, they don't need to disable OEM unlock. However, for those who stick with the rom they like and who care about security, this is a must: what's the point (regarding security) of having locked bootloader, if it could be unlocked by an adversary? In addition, it is possible to unlock bootloader without wiping data. You can install a custom recovery that doesn't erase or you can wipe recovery and data won't be erased. Or, you can download everything from the phone in recovery or in fastboot.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] razercortex:
You're forgetting the MSM tools have readback mode. This allows an attacker to backup all the partitions anyway and flash them later, so bootloader lock doesn't have much practical security. Also, MSM tools can be modified, so I'm pretty sure you can disable wipe on flash. Regardless, the backup method removes any tangible security benefits.

Regarding recoveries being able to unlock bootloader, I'm not sure that's possible. You have to boot into fastboot bootloader mode, not fastboot recovery mode to unlock the bootloader. Unless someone comes up with a bootloader attack, it's quite difficult to unlock bootloader from recovery.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
I wasn't saying recovery could unlock bootloader, but rather, if OEM unlock is allowed, anyone could unlock from fastboot. Also, at least on Onepluses, recovery does the wiping, so if recovery is erased, there would be no wiping data. If OEM unlock is disabled, no fastboot action would be possible. Also, I think, although I never checked, that if EDL is disabled in kernel, that might prevent MSM flashing/backup.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] razercortex:
Ah, I see. Yes, OEM unlock does allow unlocking from fastboot, and the recovery is definitely in charge of wiping data, so I guess you can bypass it? Then again, I'm not sure how you'd remove verified boot on a locked bootloader. Might be nice to try.

Disabling EDL might be nice for security, but it's a very bad decision. It basically means your phone becomes a paperweight if there are no other recovery options available.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
Verified boot - it's a matter of what partition is included. On my phone, everything is locked. For those who flash Gapps, system partitions are not included.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] passion8059:
Would you consider adding in display profile such as wide display gammut for richer colour?
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
The rom has it in Settings/Display/Nightdisplay. It has Standard, DCI-P3, Wide and sRGB.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] passion8059:
Cheers. Layout was different from other ROMs. Thanks 👍
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
What? Are you serious? You're aware of readback mode and don't understand the security implications? If you rethink it, you will.

If you have an unlocked bootloader, the phone will boot or flash anything! Anyone could take your phone, plug it into their USB port, and:

fastboot boot twrp.img

Now they have a full-featured environment in which to do anything they want. Sure, userdata is encrypted, but so what? They can unpack your boot image and modify it to their heart's content! The possibilities are limited only by one's creativity! Ever flash magisk? Well, magisk is essentially the skeleton of a rootkit. Even a dilettante like me could manage all sorts of nefarious things without too much exertion!

An unlocked bootloader breaks the entire Android security model. Why do you think optimumpro bothered to support bootloader locking?
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Next time you unlock the bootloader, take the time to think about the message it prints on the screen! They aren't just saying that to mess with you. Every word is literally true. Read the message and really think it over.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/comments/n7yo7u
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] razercortex:
I'm not talking about bootloader unlocking. I'm talking about readback mode and the fact it can bypass bootloader locks. It means you shouldn't give your phone to anyone but yourself.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Huh? It just dumps the partitions. That will get you precisely nowhere. Well, what do you mean by "bypass bootloader locks"?

Userdata is normally encrypted.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Regarding what you said above: you seem to be somewhat confused. You said "it's not possible to unlock the bootloader from recovery". Well, of course not! The recovery is a kernel. You can't unlock the bootloader (unless there is some exploit, and if you have that, this conversation is irrelevant because it's all broken anyway) in recovery because you've already booted!

No one can get at anything unless they can decrypt userdata (_perhaps_ e.g. the NSA could do that if they really wanted to, that's about it). If the bootloader is unlocked, they could do an "evil maid" attack as that document I included mentions. Again, as I said, this is why bootloader locking exists: so you that you can be certain that what you are booting hasn't been tampered with.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] razercortex:
I seriously don't want to fight you over this. You can choose to believe what you want.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] yaseen015:
Bro cud enable set pattern/password lock to the recovery so that it will make it more secure.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
He is not confused, he is just talking about the fact that MSM tool can wipe the phone and even dump your partitions. But when he says that from the security point of view, locked bootloader doesn't provide any benefits, he is wrong:

Locked bootloader also allows AVB-2 to work, which means if partitions are locked, any change or attack via the internet, even if it succeeds, will be reversed on reboot. So, even if someone managed to install an invisible keylogger on such a phone, a simple reboot would get rid of it.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Oh. Well, sure, it can dump your partitions, but so what? Userdata is encrypted. Anyone with a mobile device who cares about security (I am not disparaging those who don't care much about it, BTW) should assume that an attacker will be able to access internal storage directly.

Re: bootloader. YES. That is exactly the point. The 'v' in AVB is key, heh. The sanctity (for some reason using that word here is hilarious to me) of the boot chain is critical.

Your keylogger example is what I meant by "evil maid attack". And the best rootkit I've ever seen is already available: magisk! ;-)

Incidentally, have you tried bkerler/edl on GitHub? It's pretty awesome.

Oh, BTW, do you have USB gadget support in your kernel?
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Well, someone could just fastboot boot another recovery unless the bootloader is locked ;-)

FYI:

Support Direct Boot mode | App quality | Android Developers

developer.android.com
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] yaseen015:
Yes on locked bootloader if the recovery has pattern/pin lock no one cud wipe date which wud make it more secure that's what I meant. What do you think?
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
February 8. New release, V-17

1. February security patches

2. Android r52

3. Regular webview, as opposed to bromite

4. Toggle to hide statusbar clock when launcher is active

5. New recovery that fixes 'not enough space' issues with some Gapps

Download in post #3.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
You fixed the gapps problem? Awesome! That is why I gave up on this--and I didn't want to, either. This is the best ROM overall for this device, IMHO.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
Well, this has to be confirmed, as I don't have Gapps on my phone, but I think Bromite webview was the reason, the phone couldn't connect to Google services.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Yeah, but having the phone wiped is honestly not that big of a deal. The issue is that someone could just flash any kernel. With that, the sky's the limit.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
Oh, I had the "not enough space" problem when flashing gapps. I haven't moved away from Google apps yet. Plus, I like the dialer. That's another issue, actually--gapps packages don't seem to be able to handle replacing it. It was many weeks ago, so I don't remember more details. I'm gonna flash it tonight and let you know. I am SO TIRED of OOS killing my apps! I don't know how people tolerate it. I've had it kill Uber in the background and I missed a ride. I've had food delivery sitting around that I wasn't notified about. Changing the settings doesn't always work. Had I known about this, I might have not bought a OnePlus device.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] blair.sadewitz:
I wonder if TWRP could flash this since it is a11 ... eh, better not try.

BTW, have you seen bkerler/edl on GitHub? It's really impressive. You could probably distribute your ROM to be flashed via edl mode instead of recovery using that tool if you were so inclined. It's written in python, so it would work on any platform. The author is really helpful, too.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
In my build for Oneplus 9 Pro, TWRP is included and it works fine.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
February 17. New release

1. Another attempt to fix Safetynet

2. Toggle to flash torch on incoming calls

3. NightDisplay renamed to Display calibration

Download in post #3
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] stompysan:
I have been ROM hopping for months at this point, and I think I am finally burned out. I want to go back to this ROM and actually follow through with the bootloader lock. Before I reflash, can you confirm one thing for me? Under OnePlus Settings, is the 5G network control option available? Where I work at has a very slow LTE connection and a very spotty 5G connection. For me to receive calls consistently, I have to force NSA mode on my device. I can't remember offhand if this is an option here or not.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
You have network control including 5G in Settings/Network & Internet/Mobile network. Also, you can have access to the same via '*#*#4636#*#*. Whether you NSA or SA is network dependent.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] online-butcher:
Will I be able to use banking apps, and apps like Uber on this ROM? Please let me know.

Also...if I don't install gapps...will apps like grubhub/ uber be able to work without gapps?
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
Some will, some won't, but you can always install MicroG, which is a Gapps replacement without spyware. Example: I have no MicroG and my Santander bank app works fine, although, it says on the install page 'Google Services Framework' is required.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
March 8, New release, V-18

1. March security patches

2. Android r53

3. User build

4. Updated kernel

5. Options to choose between Bromite and Vanadium webivew

Download in post 3.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] JhinCuatro:
Lol, you're assuming one physically loses their device. Sure, it happens, but it rarely happens and even if it does, do you rlly think the thief is gonna know ****. They probably stole it to scrap it for parts, lol. Unlocked bootloader is plenty secure, so long you don't physically lose it, and even still, there's never been [much] documented cases of that happening (data being decrpyted and stolen...). It's theoretically possible but a huge waste of time for no gain; people data isn't that valuable, and if it were someone important, u rlly think they spent the time to bootloader unlock their device, if they even know what that is, and were perfectly fine knowing their device is less secure? The hugest risk with bootloader unlock is just like with any other device; don't install random apps that can be malicious. And don't modify your device to the point of no recovery, which is something locked bootloader users can never accomplish.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
Never heard of stealing mobile phones for parts, but stealing to gain access to Gpay, Paypal and other payment services, as a means of stealing money, happens all the time, and these thieves know exactly what to do. They are especially thankful to mobile phone owners with unlocked bootloaders and no encryption. Having pin/password is no defense in any way: all it takes to gain access to such phones is to remove 2-3 files in data/system, which start with 'lock', reboot, and have the full access to the phone (no pin, no password).
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
Telegram Channel Added: HERE
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] JhinCuatro:
Of course pin/password is worthless without encryption, but what person is decrpyted anyways? More so, it is especially rare to get a device stolen, more so one with an unlocked bootloader. It is very difficult if not impossible (not worth the effort) to mess with an encrypted device, as you can't even properly locate files or folders. Access to accounts on the phone is meaningless because these accounts usually require reentering a password to enter; more so, it is extremely easy to disable payments on stolen mediums, as well as to have protection even if thief manages theft. Biggest bootloader unlock disadvantage is of course the lack of safetynet (if not bypassed) and slightly longer boot times. OR the event where a high profile user with valuable data with an unlocked bootloader gets pwned. But I don't think your everyday rich people even know what unlocked bootloader is or would bother with is.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
March 23. New release.

1. From now on there will be 2 versions of the rom Full and Vanilla

2. Updated kernel, which includes Spectre 2 implementations

3. Updated icons for Display calibration

Download in post #3.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] android_dan:
Great looking and functional rom. Dimensions are off. The status bar doesn't match the selfie cutout. The center clock is off. And I notice if I don't hit an icon just right one next to it will open. Everything about the rest of the ROM is so f'ing good you really need to fix that.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
Sorry. Nothing is off. I have oneplus 8 like you, not 8 pro or T or 9 series, where people can say things that I can't confirm.

You can screw dimensions on any device, if you set ridiculous numbers in display size. Clock center is calculated from the camera hole. It's a matter of preference... .
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] android_dan:
As god is my witness I haven't touched a thing. Don't even know where those settings are.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] optimumpro:
As I have said, clock center is calculated from the camera hole. The statusbar is at the very top, which leaves more space on screen.
[OnePlus 8 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] android_dan:
So that explains the statusbar. Never seen anyone do that before but so be it. The center clock off IDK, I said screw it and put it back to the left. Everything else is top notch.
[Xiaomi Mi 11] Sohan_Saymum:
Every time I get a notification, I can't here the music anymore. It keeps playing but I can hear after 2-3sec later. The music doesn't pause or doesn't get dim. The sound totally stops while playing in the background. I use Poweramp. Is there a solution? using latest xiaomi.eu stable rom
[Xiaomi Mi 11] blackhawk:
Disable or alter notifications.
[Xiaomi Mi 11] Hunteres:
Did you format before flashing last version? Somwtimes it happen.....clean flash probably only option
[Xiaomi Mi 11] Furma:
anyone know how to separate notification volume from ringtone volume? I would like my notifications silenced completely while having ringtone at the default volume...
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] dantevn:
Hey there. Currently I'm running ArrowOS, but I really miss the options MIUI had, like native dual apps and screen size flick. Could I go back to original MIUI, but still have it rootable? So I can install magisk on it?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] SubwayChamp:
Of course, you can install the stock ROM that was previously onto your device and revert it to stock again without unlocking the bootloader, you should need to format data because they are very different ROMs.

From there you can start again, flashing TWRP and/or rooting it.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] Ramesh006:
same here, tried so many roms then finally went back to xiaomi eu version. much better than my Indian official version.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] Hymix:
Do the MIUI roms still only allow the stock launcher if you use gesture navigation?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] SubwayChamp:
No, you can use any launcher, I used Poco (ok, from Miui), Nova and ADW, it works for all of them.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] simondd:
Which one ROM do you recommend - EliteROM or xiaomi.eu?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] flgmnft:
For me is EliteROM, only this run stable, rest of custom rom generate custom restarts, dont know why. Perhaps only in my device, mayby is hardware issue. I've some of first models, buyed few days after premiere.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] TioCareca:
Can stock miui be flashed in twrp?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] Hymix:
Weird. I've switched to xiaomi.eu and it only allows gesture navigation with the stock launcher.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] shivansh68:
I'm currently looking to buy a decent pair of headphones that I want to mostly use with my phone. I've looked around online and couldn't find much about which DAC is being used and what is the ideal output power/impedance of the headphones that I should use with these.

I am thinking of getting the Audio Technica M20x but they have an impedance of 47 ohms, and I'm not sure if the device is ideal or capable enough to power it properly. I've read on another thread that a guy used a pair of headphones with 62 ohms impedance with this phone and he had to crank it up to almost 100% volume to hear music. So I'm not sure if the 47 ohms is too high for the phone. But the old wired apple earphones were 40 ohms and they probably worked fine so maybe the M20x would work somewhat nicely too I guess?

If anyone has used a good quality pair of headphones with this device here, help would be really appreciated.

Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] shivansh68:
Anyone?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] ValgarBaldr:
It has 24bit/192Khz Hi-Res as every other phone nowadays have. It doesn't have a separate DAC like an LG, is the one integrated on Snapdragon.

The best you can do to enjoy that headphones is to get a Tempotec Sonata HD2 dongle and never get over 95% volume to avoid distortion. There are dozens of good dongles but that one is cheap and you can use it for years.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] shivansh68:
Thanks for the suggestion! I do plan on getting a seperate DAC in the future but currently I'm on a tight budget so I wanted to know how it will sound straight from the phone and what impedance headphones the phone's internal DAC can handle.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] ValgarBaldr:
It can handle the Audio Technica pretty well. That headphones are pretty sensitive and the impedance is not high also. You will need to volume up a bit but the AT will muzzle exterior sound too, so it's a win-win
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] ValgarBaldr:
I just connected a AKG K240 to my device and sounds excepcional at middle volume. They are 55 ohms.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] shivansh68:
Thanks a ton for your help!! I've been looking around for weeks and haven't gotten any decent answers but you just helped me make my decision.

I'm sorry but could you explain what you meant by this?

Also if you don't mind what audiophile headphones would you suggest under the $100 range? I'm thinking about getting the M20x or M30X or would it be better to get maybe the Sennheiser HD 200 Pro for normal listening and not for studio mixing?

Thanks
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] bladebreaker1919:
i do find the sound to be a bit under volume as compared with a separate DAC... the sound produced out of the jack feels sub-parred compared to my realme 5i
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] ValgarBaldr:
I mean you may find the volume a bit low compared to a standard earphones, but the binaural pads silence a lot of outer noise si it's ok.

M20x all the way, best quality for the price.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] shivansh68:
Thanks for the help!
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] Ramesh006:
im using blon bl 03. they are sounding awesome without DAC. 50% volume is enough.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] DarkMagik:
Nice to have stumbled across this thread.

I haven't received my x3 pro yet. But will in one or two days. I had been looking around for a decent phone with a headphone jack and there were not a lot of options at all.

The reason being, I had an Earmen Eagle dac amp which is considered 'high end' in the world of dongle dacs. I A-B tested them vs the output from my current phone (realme 7) and to me, there really wasn't much of a difference in terms of quality. The output power is higher on the eagle ofcourse but nothing that notable in terms of quality difference, certainly not enough to make me want to deal with the inconvenience of a dongle.

I had done some prior digging and I believe the dac is the same as that on the ROG 2, which is understandable as the sd 860 is basically the same as 855+. I know this might not be useful info but I just wanted to share my findings anyway.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro] simondd:
Jack is so trash, really it's 1/10. My Max 3 sounds 100x better. Without audio mods don't even come.
[Off-topic] fhaines:
:DSOLD, thanks for the replies

My personal At&t tilt for sale.

Unlocked , currently on Tmobile.

Hard SPL 3.29

Currently running Hyperdragon III opal.

Works perfectly, some scrapes and scratches. Screen perfect.

With 4 gig card and boxed TomTom 6.

2 holster clips, 2 batteries, home charger, headphones.

200.00 shipped to lower 48 states.

PM me if your interested.

fhaines

My personal At&t tilt for sale.

Unlocked , currently on Tmobile.

Hard SPL 3.29

Currently running Hyperdragon III opal.

Works perfectly, some scrapes and scratches. Screen perfect.

With 4 gig card and boxed TomTom 6.

2 holster clips, 2 batteries, home charger, headphones.

200.00 shipped to lower 48 states.

PM me if your interested.

fhaines

My personal At&t tilt for sale.

Unlocked , currently on Tmobile.

Hard SPL 3.29

Currently running Hyperdragon III opal.

Works perfectly, some scrapes and scratches. Screen perfect.

With 4 gig card and boxed TomTom 6.

2 holster clips, 2 batteries, home charger, headphones.

200.00 shipped to lower 48 states.

PM me if your interested.

fhaines

My personal At&t tilt for sale.

Unlocked , currently on Tmobile.

Hard SPL 3.29

Currently running Hyperdragon III opal.

Works perfectly, some scrapes and scratches. Screen perfect.

With 4 gig card and boxed TomTom 6.

2 holster clips, 2 batteries, home charger, headphones.

200.00 shipped to lower 48 states.

PM me if your interested.

fhaines
[Off-topic] nicerb:
tilt

hea you still ha the tilt ?