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[Motorola Edge 20] flipp0:
Got my Edge 20 a couple of days ago. Also have a OP Nord 2.

The front on Edge 20 looks really nice with symmetrical bezels and a nice looking punchole (compared to the ugly ring on Poco F3). However, I regret buying the version with a white back since it looks a bit tacky. Thinking about returning it and buying a black one.

Build quality feels better on Nord 2 due to the thin design of Edge 20.

The screen is very nice but I see not benefit of 144hz refresh rate (compared to 120hz or 90hz).

Performance and fluidity is really good. Feels almost like a flagship in that regard. Perhaps Nord 2 is a bit faster but only by a hair. Animations feels nicer on Edge 20.

Haptics are way better on Nord 2. Motorola used a cheap vibration motor on Edge 20.

Battery life on Edge 20 seems better than expected given the fairly small battery and large screen (with high refresh rate). However, it is too early to draw any sharp conclusions on battery life.

If I compare Edge 20 and Nord 2. Dayligt camera performance from main sensor more or less the same in terms of details. However, I think photos from Edge 20 are nices looking due to better white balance. Photos from Nord 2 have a yellow tint. Low light performance from the main camera is better on Nord 2 (brighter photos with more detail) However, it is possible to install gcam on Edge 20 and it supports all three cameras (BSG). This app improves low light performance for all sensors. Especially, photos from the telephoto camera looks much better with gcam. I think 3x zoom is very usueful and actually more useful than 5x. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Thanks for these first impressions. I will be receiving my Edge 20 after a few days! Waiting to check it out.

Can you post some Camera sample of Stock app vs Gcam on Edge20? That would be great!

Also what is the SOT you are getting as of now?
[Motorola Edge 20] flipp0:
The battery drops 11% per hour when the sceeen is on according to accubattery.

First is stock 3x zoom, the secod is BSG gcam 3x zoom without any tweaks. Results should be even better if someone releases a custom XML for Edge 20.
[Motorola Edge 20] guitarsmurf2501:
Just got mine a few days ago. Battery seems to have settled now. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours of SOT. Battery drains about 10% overnight. I think because it's searching for signal.

Some pics come out better with stock camera, others with BSG gcam. Depends on the situation. Overall the cameras are good. Not quite flagship level, but pretty good.

Only gripe I have so far is that the wifi range seems rather weak, especially compared to eg. OnePlus. Near my router is fine, but when I even just sit just outside on the terrace it keeps dropping and reconnecting. My OnePlus keeps streaming video without any issues in these places. This is a real bummer and I'm not sure if I can live with that.

Other than that I love how light it is. Love the screen and the side mounted fingerprint scanner. It's very fast and snappy.
[Motorola Edge 20] Android Rocks:
How about Hi-Res audio support? I have LDAC supporting oppo enco M31 bluetooth earphones. Would I able to enjoy LDAC through powerAMP app?
[Motorola Edge 20] flipp0:
I will send back my Edge 20 tomorrow. Could not get used to the ugly white back and I do not want to use this phone with a case (the USP is how thin and light it feels in the hand naked). I may order a black one later. If the haptics would have been better I would have bought a black one ASAP.
[Motorola Edge 20] Android Rocks:
How is the WiFi reception overall?
[Motorola Edge 20] guitarsmurf2501:
Wifi is decent, not exceptional. On par with Samsung mid rangers in my experience.

Only brand I owned so far with great wifi range is OnePlus. Both Nord and 8 Pro had great range.
[Motorola Edge 20] Android Rocks:
What about LDAC support and Hi-Res audio support? If not in-built, can you able to enjoy LDAC through third party apps?
[Motorola Edge 20] guitarsmurf2501:
I don't know tbh. I'm using wired OnePlus bullets connected to the charging port.

It should be fine though. I find the sound pretty good and pretty loud considering it's only got one speaker.

Using headphones the sound is as good as my OnePlus 8 Pro for me.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Does the BSG Gcam work perfectly? As in, do all the modes like Portrait, Night Mode, Time Lapse, Slo-mo, and Photo Sphere Work for all 3 lenses?
[Motorola Edge 20] guitarsmurf2501:
I just tried. Still photography works like it should for all three lenses. Portrait and night sight work too.

Video doesn't seem to work at all on the main lense. It's just a black screen. Can't work any of the buttons.

Video only works for the selfie cam.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Maybe will have to try some other Mod which might work :(

Because without video it will get difficult, and I don't want to use the Stock app much.
[Motorola Edge 20] guitarsmurf2501:
I'm so stupid... Video works fine on bsg camera. I had focus tracking enabled in settings which the Moto doesn't support apparently. So yes: bsg works fine. 😁
[Motorola Edge 20] ERAAF:
Hey

Its good to hear edge 20 supports gcam with almost everything working

I suggest fellow edge 20 users to use the following gcam and check if these are working

1) 7.3 urnyx v2.1 wichaya v3.1

Or

Gcam 8.1 wichaya (latest)

2) greatness 8.2(latest)

3) camstellar greatness v4

4)Nikita 7.4 v2.0

Or Nikita 8.2 (latest)

5) 8.2 MGC parrot043 V8 from parrot's telegram group

6) tr camera (latest)

My suggestions

use a config file of a famous device (any one plus device) and load it in your gcam app , you can change the settings and aux values as per moto edge 20 later and adjust it so that it can work in moto

Or head to greatness's telegram where
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
I am currently using the one by BSG v8.1

It works fine for all lenses, except that it produces that weird fisheye distortion with the ultra-wide lens.

Is there any fix for this? Or any alternative?
[Motorola Edge 20] ERAAF:
Yes, disable sabre from

settings

And developer settings
[Motorola Edge 20] ERAAF:
That's great, I have also attached greatness 8.2 link with a config

Try this and reply
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Can someone confirm my observation as below -

The front cam has a fixed focus, causing blur on faces in a selfie which are not at the front. (Even without portrait mode)

This is resulting in useless selfies, as only the front person's face is focused and rest gets blurred.

And if anyone knows any workaround to this, it would be helpful!!
[Motorola Edge 20] AlphaKilo09:
I just tried playing some 4k HDR 60fps demo videos on my Motorola Edge 20 (XT2143-1).

Most of them played fine but few of them (like the ones from the link mentioned below) were way off with lot of saturation so much so that it was difficult to even look at the screen while playing these videos. Tried playing on various apps like Google Photos app, VLC, MX Player, etc. but no luck. These videos are playing fine on other phones (I had checked on Redmi Note 10 Pro & One Plus 9).

LG 4K HDR Demo Chess.mp4

LG 4K HDR Demo - Colors of Journey.mkv

Samsung x RedBull: See the Unexpected HDR

But when I enable the option to "Show refresh rate" or when I turn ON "Disable HW overlays" from 'developer options', videos appear to play fine showing colours properly.

PS. Playing 4K HDR 60FPS videos on Youtube is fine and has no problem. The screenshots come out fine and not affected by this.

I appreciate if anyone who got this phone could check/verify this issue.

Thanks.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Anyone ?
[Motorola Edge 20] AlphaKilo09:
I'm running this version MGC_8.1.101_A9_GV1r_ENG.apk

I found there is some noticeable amount of depth/blur in selfies. But not too much.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Any workaround for the blur?... Because that's causing group photos to look bad
[Motorola Edge 20] AlphaKilo09:
-ve as of now. Sorry.
[Motorola Edge 20] Qidamin:
It should be the same for all phones that don't have autofocus on front facing camera, if I am not wrong. Length of focus is about the length of an arm, then everything that is further should be blurred, there's nothing you can do. I don't think I have seen front camera with focal length on infinity as well.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
But most phones have face detection, right?

Where they will focus on the faces I'd they find any....here I can't see anything of that sort.
[Motorola Edge 20] YaKoStar:
I'm having problems with the touch response in 144hz ..

When I set the display to 144hz mode it feels like the touch sensor isn't catching up to my touches. I often have to click and swipe 2 or 3 times before something happens.

This doesn't happen in the "auto" mode. I wouldn't mind keeping it in auto, but the display never goes above 120hz in this mode. And after scrolling some apps(for example chrome and facebook) for a few seconds, everything just slows down to 60hz, which is really annoying.

Anyone else experiencing these issues?
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
I haven't tried much of 144hz, but for the time I did...I seemed to work fine.

And for auto mode, I noticed for me it keeps it mostly at 120 only.

I tried with a refresh rate checking app as well. It rarely went down to 60.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Can anyone share a good set of working Config files for GCam ? Where all three lenses are performing perfect.
[Motorola Edge 20] Qidamin:
I suppose face ID should work within a certain range, not too close or not too far, I suppose a slight blur is acceptable for face ID, but i don't think the cam is focusing. Autofocus on front cam is quite rare.
[Motorola Edge 20] Spariant:
Hi thanks for the impressions could you please confirm the following things

1. In the camera setting is there an option to preserve the last camera mode used and launch at the same mode every time

2. In the pro mode if we adjust the ISO and colour temperature setting, are these settings preserved

2a. If we close and relaunch the camera

2b. If we change the zoom level/camera lens

Waiting for the reply. Need to have the exact same settings at each launch and at each zoom level.
[Motorola Edge 20] onslaught86:
Yes to all of the above.

As long as the "Keep last mode" feature is enabled, closing/reopening the camera app will default to Pro mode (if last used/selected) and retain white balance/ISO on a per-lens basis.

It will still default to the main sensor regardless of which was last used, however will retain white balance and ISO for all lenses.
[Motorola Edge 20] Spariant:
Thanks.
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Can anyone share a Good Config File BSG v8.1.101

Also, the Wide Lens Angle Photos shouldn't have Distortion in them!

Much Needed!

PS - Or Suggest any other Gcam which is working for all 3 lenses
[Motorola Edge 20] guitarsmurf2501:
I havehave optimized charging turned on and so far it worked great. Phone made sure to be charged by the time my alarm went off on the morning.

Last couple of days though... It stops charging at around 70%.

Anyone else encounter this problem? I'm not doing anything different.
[Motorola Edge 20] Papura:
I got mine 5 days ago, no issues with the Wi-Fi - stable approx. 300mbit, btw my previous Galaxy S20 was making up to 400-430.

No issues with the touch, but my PC (Ryzen 5 Pro 16Gigs RAM and NVME drive), is thinking quite a lot with Hi-Res pictures - only about 40megs ?

And the battery drop is about 1,5% per hour on my usage
[Motorola Edge 20] lucky_kuk:
Can anyone tell around what time can we expect a soak test for Edge20 for Android 12? 😟
[Motorola Edge 20] Papura:
From I've found in the net, A12 have to be released for Edge 20 in the end of January or beginning of February. Not sure how this info is legit.
[Motorola Edge 20] mirakle:
Hello there. I'm receiving the Moto Edge 20 in a few days. Nice to see such a topic here. Even though it's dated now. :)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
The latest two betas of Xiaomi.eu based on Chinese MIUI enhanced version has remarkable stability, much better battery life- for first time since I got this phone, once only charge to 90% keeps the phone rocking for the whole day even with extensive and heavy use. These betas are almost totally bug-free for Mi 11 ultra.

Many threads here in this forum are filled with scary stories... including a few of my own like those of others. Wanted to give a clearer idea to potential new buyers of this phone.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
How are these compared to the latest stable? Because I'm having some issues on it I didn't have on global stable
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] kyero985:
I'm currently on Xiaomi.eu 21.8.26 but I haven't noticed the performance and battery life improvements so far - is there a way to check if the new features of MIUI Enhanced are definitely enabled under any of the settings?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
Is the enhanced features in the latest eu stable yet ?

12.5.12 ?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
The sooner the better then! 🤣
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
Compared to the global 12.5.4 and Chinese MIUI 12.5.10, there is noticeable improvement on these Xiaomi.eu betas. I have not tried stable Xiaomi.eu. So I would not know.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
I am on the same beta and have noticed the improved MIUI very clearly. Despite my maximum and heavy use, I cannot drain the juice of the phone to under 10% in a day. For similar use, I had to charge the phone twice previously when I was using the official global and chinese MIUI.

And also the UI is butter smooth as well. There are no jitters at all.

There is no way to know from inside the firmware that whether you are running the enhanced MIUI. I noticed the improvements on 21.8.18 first and then searched the Xiaomi.eu forums. There, the devs confirmed to a question by a user that this beta (21.8.18) is based on enhanced version of MIUI. 😊
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] kyero985:
Thanks for sharing your experiences and feedback.

I'm now downloading Xiaomi.eu 21.9.1 and will monitor my battery performance to see if there's been any improvements.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I've installed the latest weekly from Xiaomi EU yesterday and I must say that is working extremely well,it still lacks on performance slightly on cold app start despite official global (I would be curious to try the official chinese weekly it must be a sky rocket). I confirm so far that many bugs have been resolved like stuttering when the rear display is on, whatsapp backup restore doesn't crash anymore, cpu temp looks cooler now and 120hz are really smooth. Great job. I'm really looking forward to see if enhanced version coming official on global devices will be as great
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
Glad to know it worked for you like it is doing for me. I launch apps via their shortcuts created with a free app from google play (I just cant stand the app icon labels. Creating shortcuts achieve label-less icons). The apps start instantly this way. So I may have overlooked the app start up time when launched from actual app icon.

The Today's beta include the September security patch. That is a hot hot cake for me 🔥🔥.

I will greatly appreciate if the official stable MIUI with the enhanced features drop quickly. Nevertheless, we have at least some pathway for the time being to be able to use the phone with all its full potential without major bugs. This is the way for Xiaomi to walk on. Fix the vital software!!
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
May I ask what's the name of the app for launching the apps? It sounds weird to me but it is worth a try. Also I would add that fingerprint scanner is kuch faster now as well. Great
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
Glad to know it worked for you like it is doing for me. I launch apps via their shortcuts created with a free app from google play (I just cant stand the app icon labels. Creating shortcuts achieve label-less icons). The apps start instantly this way. So I may have overlooked the app start up time when launched from actual app icon.

The Today's beta include the September security patch. That is a hot hot cake for me.

There are many. I like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rk.android.app.shortcutmaker
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I found a little bug

With YouTube vanced when I have PiP video on the display, I experience contant stutter on browser navigation.

@hellodrsoul may I ask you please to do a test for me regarding the app cold start time?

If you can please test both with your shortcut or with app drawer and check if you see any difference
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lakhobim:
Is there any way to install china beta rom in mi 11 ultra? No fastboot rom available of china beta or twrp not working for flashing official rom. Don't want to go with Xiaomi eu rom
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
I had the beta android 12 running for awhile but it's very barebones , I'm sure it's much better now tho

Haven't tried the enhanced MIUI version yet
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lakhobim:
Are you beta tester if not how you flash it?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
MIUI posted an official link if anyone wanted to try it out , I'm sure it's still around
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
Download Android 12 Beta on Xiaomi Mi 11, Mi 11 Ultra, Mi 11i, and Mi 11X Pro

From this post, you could download and install the Android 12 Beta on Xiaomi Mi 11, Mi 11 Ultra, Mi 11i, and Mi 11X Pro devices. Sticking to its timeline,

www.getdroidtips.com
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lakhobim:
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[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
You mean this?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
It was April or may when I tested it, I'm sure it's much improved since then ...
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
As far as I know, you have to be officially a beta tester for flashing the official betas. Neither twrp nor the default updater will let you install an official beta on a device that is not enrolled for beta testing.

I too would love to know the way and try the official beta.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
You can download Android 12 and flash it without being enrolled in anything

( I did it back in April the same day it was released )

I posted screenshots here if you can be bothered looking for them
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lakhobim:
Android 12 in miui 12.5 which available for china close beta I am talking about that
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
You can do that and I have actually tested it myself. But I think that post was asking for Mi 12, android 11 based beta, not android 12 beta. What you and me had previously was android 12 based beta, not MIUI based. The MIUI beta based on android 12 is non existent currently for Mi 11 ultra.

Hope it is clear now.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
The last I knew, Android 12 based MIUI is still in alpha stage and is available for only a few devices. I am not sure or know if it is yet available for Mi 11 ultra.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lakhobim:
Here is link of miui 12 with Android 12 china beta rom from telegram

https://hugeota.d.miui.com/21.8.31/miui_STAR_21.8.31_91779af772_12.0.zip

I have not tested but change log say Android 12

Now my question is , is there ant way to flash this recovery rom?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
Download it to laptop first and see what comes inside the zip

It maybe fastboot or maybe flashable via twrp

Backup anything important before flash as usual :)

Might try this one myself over the weekend
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lakhobim:
It's recovery and can't flash by twrp

Payload.bin file and it can't flash by twrp
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
Someone will probably translate the Chinese instructions for us soon

I will try to get it running when I get time
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Honestly I must say that battery life was better on global 12.5.4.0, I still want to make a full week of usage and 5/6 discarging charginc cycles before making conclusions, but so far Global ROM was better for battery life as well as performance
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
The latest beta (21.9.1) is draining fast for me too... Don't know what's happening.

Still the battery drain is comparable at least to the un-enhanced MIUI versions I had previously. This beta has the latest security patch and it is not inferior in performance/battery life to the stable MIUI for me. So I ll stick to it with the hope that the next weekly will fix something broken on this beta. Perhaps until the stable enhanced MIUI drops, we will have things changed and at times broken in the interim.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] speedtripler:
This is really a phone that could have benefited greatly from a 6k+ battery

I don't think anyone would mind 1mm thicker for 20% extra power , especially since the SD 888 is a thirsty beast even in phones with good optimization
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Honestly I really hate the fact that Xiaomi EU ROM boots the apps from cold start so slow, it seems to deal with a phone from 3/4 years ago while this phone is a beast and can boots the apps in few milliseconds or even instantly, and global ROM official does this. That's why I would be curious to try the official China ROM. But I would like to know how to injects Google services as I don't know how to install the few apps I need. But I will attempt a fastboot installation of this, otherwise I go back to official global
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
Have you enabled AI preloading?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
No I haven't do I need to?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
You can try enabling it. And see if it helps with app launching. It is located in special features and MIUI labs.

Can you share screen recording to show how slow is it for you?

I have attached screen recording of opening of settings app after closing it from recent apps. AI preloading is enabled.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
Try going to Developer Settings and disable all the animation options.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Your playstore opening is slow. Could you try WhatsApp for me please?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
I cannot feel it. It must be a few millisecond difference if you are appreciating it.

I lock all apps on my homescreen in the recents. So these apps cold start only if I reboot the phone which I do in weeks. May be that's why I think app start is not an issue.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Exactly. Basically you open the apps and you have them running in background all the time. To perform an app cold start you open recent and delete everything. Then try. Anyway you should complete whatsapp installation first, could you try again after that please?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I confirm that app cold start is slow. Global official ROM is faster I don't know why EU has this issue
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
That glimpse of greatly improved battery life and control of temp I noted on previous 2 betas made me start this thread. By the time of this writing, that benefit is gone as the current beta has almost identical battery life compared to the un-enhanced MIUI.

Performance is equal to at least the un-enhanced MIUI for how I use the phone. So I plan to stick to it, for personal reasons such as the latest security update it contains, the fully functional rear display and the presence of some minor tweaking by Xiaomi.eu devs which are important to me. These things are important to me so I can sacrifice a few other things if I am able to use these features.

As this is an unofficial version of MIUI and on top of that it is a beta release, we can hope that the official enhanced version of a stable release will have the goodies we wish for; stability, speed, performance and improved battery life. In the Xiaomi.eu versions of betas, it is difficult to track down a bug origin that whether it is introduced by Xiaomi or Xiaomi.eu devs.

Fingers crossed...
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hellodrsoul:
If you plan to go back to the global sometime, please let me know about the difference in speed of global vs the Xiaomi.eu beta for comparison by posting screen recordings here in this thread or by starting another thread, as you deem fit. That shall be kind of you ☺️