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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Boomslang_x64:
6.1 and Hard SPL

I recently purchased an HTC Kaiser / ATT Tilt new and unlocked on ebay. I am completely new to everything here and haven't actually received the phone yet. I believe it is an HTC branded phone with windows mobile 6.0. However, it may be ATT as the description was somewhat poor. I plan to upgrade to windows mobile 6.1 immediately. My first question is whether I should install the newest version of Hard SPL before flashing the new ROM supplied by the HTC website. I feel that I should become familiar with the phone before working with cooked ROMs, which is why I am going this route. My second question is whether being branded ATT or HTC will make a difference when dealing with flashing ROMs / radio / SPL. The item description reports the phone as "unlocked", which I assume means SIM unlocked, if that makes any difference. I have been reading a great deal about the seemingly endless possibilities for this phone, and am very excited to get started. Any guidance would be appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Unlocked is supposed to mean SIM unlocked at least. As for Differences between HTC and AT&T version, the main thing is if it's a AT&T and you use a HTC ROM you'll need the AT&T Keyboard Fix CAB or the HTC Keyboard Fix CAB if it's an HTC and you use a AT&T ROM. You'll also need to run the connection set-up wizard to get the cell to work with your service provider (AT&T/T-Mobile/O2/etc). As for HardSPL/radio, you should read the Wiki stickied a few posts up. There's no definite answer on which to use, because they depend on if you have WM 6.0 or WM6.1, the specific ROM in Question may only be compatible with certain Radios and HardSPL's, as well as where you are located, and which specific device you have. You really just need to test it out using different Radios/HardSPLs compatible with the ROM you're using and see what works best for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Boomslang_x64:
Thanks for the reply. Do you recommend that I flash the latest Hard SPL before upgrading to 6.1 or should I leave it alone and upgrade immediately?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Hi,

I've merged this thread with the "newbie" thread.

If you are planning to use custom ROMs in the future then installing the Hard SPL from this thread.

Please take you time to read the HTC Kaiser pages on the wiki (especially the KaiserFAQ) most of the questions you can think up will be answsered on there.

Good luck and have fun :)

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ZootHornRollo:
hi,

first time flashing a new ROM to my Kaiser i installed HardSPL 3.29 following this guide but my phone, when restarted with the SIM inserted came up saying there was no SIM. After several restarts, removing and reinserting the SIM with no success i removed the SIM and tryed it in my Hermes - it worked fine. i then put it back in my kaiser and it worked.

any ideas if i was doing something wrong? or how to prevent in future?

p.s. i now have the voicemail message showing but when i check my VM there are no messages, any ideas how to clear it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Did you put the SIM in correctly ;)

I made that mistake once, and so did someone else on here the other day.

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ZootHornRollo:
hey,

i tried removing and reinserting 3 times before trying the hermes. always a possibility it was not correctly inserted (3 times?), i certainly wouldn't rule it out. not a big issue as it is working fine now. i tried removing and reinserting again and it is still working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Oh well :D

BTW, O2 don't do voicemail Icon's so I can't help. Might be ROM spefic issue, try reading/searching the ROM thread.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sliick:
just wondering, im a complete noob at this,

and I just got myself a TYTN 2 a few days ago.

it already came with a custom ROM [Hyperdragon III], so does this mean that i can skip the hard-SPL step and go straight to Flashing another ROM? or would I have to do both the hard SPL AND the custom rom flashing steps?

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
If you have HyperDragon on your phone then you have a version of HardSPL already but I would advise going into the Bootloader and checking the version (see post#1) to see what version you have. If you dont have 3.29 Hard on then upgrade and you can proceed to flashing the Rom by whatever method you prefer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kotepozna001:
I just wanna thank everybody on this forum.I did it.I flashed my first Kaiser ROM.Hehe!

I did not manage to sim unlock it though but I think the other sim card I used (the one from another carrier) is not active anymore so maybe this was my problem.Anyway thanks folks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Homeryz:
My Noobiness is showing -- Burning Rom

I know this is going to show me for the noob that I am, and it's probably on the first page in bold letters somewhere, BUT I haven't found this answer.

My Tilt is a company phone, so if I burn the ROM, is there a way to put it back

to the original default AT&T stuff if I had to?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Homeryz:
Ok found the answer.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335568

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WillardZ:
Question for Mark.

In post#1 you state;

5. Download and Flash your Prefered Rom.

Flashing Via ActiveSync

...snip...

4. Once phone finishes flashing, resets and gets to the screen where it configures the stylus, HARD RESET

(press left and right softkey buttons on the front and hold in reset with stylus until message appears)

...snip...

I have

never

succeeded with the HARD reset. Using the soft keys and the reset button all I ever get is a SOFT reset. That seems to be doing the job though as I have never had a flash related problem. Also lately I am reading more and more where the advice is given to do a soft reset when flash is finished. What up here?? Maybe I missed something.

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Are you sure you are doing the HArd Reset properly? The way i do it is to turn the phone sideways and then press down the left and right soft keys at the same time (the buttons above the internet button and the messaging button) and then while holding them down I press the reset button in with my other hand and hold all 3 buttons pushed in for about 3 seconds. After doing this for 3 seconds the Hard Reset screen should pop up. If the phone resets right away maybe ur not holding it in long enough. If

Im not trying to state the obvious and i dont think you are stupid but sometimes people dont fully understand the instructions :)

I dont know why people would recommend a soft reset after the flash it doesnt do anything apart from restart your device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WillardZ:
You might just be right. Next time I'll get some help with all the buttons.:) And you are of course right about the soft reset not clearing/rewiting anything. Thanks for your reply.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Well you can test it out without doing a full Hard Reset. If you put the phone on its side when you do the hard reset then when you press the soft buttons down just rest your hand on the phone so it stops the phone moving when you press in the reset button with the stylus using your other hand. Make sure you hold the reset button in until the screen changes to a white screen with blue writing. Pressing the green answer button will perform the hard reset BUT any other button will just reboot the phone as normal and load back into your OS so you can check the action works without having to lose all your saved data.

Give it a try :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jezzaflyboy:
mskip,

I hate to ask because I know you've gone to great lengths to ensure noobs such as myself don't ask stoopid questions - but, I've got a stoopid question or a few, how bout I tell you what I did and hope you can help...

I aquired a HTC X05HT from Softbank for my Japanese girlfriend and we have since moved to Australia - I was hoping to change the language to English so I could set it up for Australia because I can read or understand Japanese but it can't do that, so I HardSPL'ed it using your HardSPL thing and it worked, then flashed a WWE ROM from here to it and it didnt' work - there's the problem.

I am using Vista, I think that is what caused the problem because now all it does is vibrate and boots to the black Softbank screen and stays there... I did not have activesync but it still connected with WMDC..

When I do a hard reset, it goes through the entire hard reset progress bar but does the same thing. when I do a soft reset, it just comes back to the same screen.

When I reboot into Bootloader, it goes into bootloader and here is what's up on the screen:

RAPH100

SPL-1.90.01OliNex

MicroP-Raph (LED) v13

MicroP-Raph (Key) v5

PSOC-Raph STAGE_CVT v0x36

When I plug the USB in, it changes to USB from serial but I can't flash anything to it. Truth is, I think the fact that I'm using Vista is a huge problem but I've spent the last 5 days reading, looking, downloading and trying things, but can't do anything...

I've been looking for flashing from microSD but can't find anything to do that with. Another thing is, I'm looking for a standard HTC WWE WM6.1 ROM I can run in Australia but after searching for the same 5 days, I can't find anything...

Can you advise how me to recover it from 'I stuffed it mode' and locate the normal shipped rom for Australia so I can continue on the original plan please?

I also think I may have downloaded the wrong ROM, so I've been looking for the standard shipped ROM for one in Australia or a WWE I think it is referred too...

I am more than happy to make a donation because, well, I'm kinda stuck...

Jerry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Hey,

Just to clarify, you have a raphael device but you have posted this in the kaiser forum lol, I think you may have got my 2 guides mixed up a bit mate :)

By the information you gave you have flashed your SPL correctly as it is now the OliNex HardSPL as in the guide. Go *HERE* and follow step4 (flashing Rom via microSD Card) and you should be fine.

If you look *HERE* for a shipped WWE Rom, the HTC Stock Rom you require is *THIS* one. Or since you have HardSPL on your device you can flash a custom Rom if you wish.

A couple of custom Roms you could try are:

NATF v4.2 Standard or

ROMeOS v1.80.4

both chefs are very well respected and the Roms are stable and fast.

If you need more info or help just shout, but post any more questions in the Raphael Flashing Thread I gave you please to keep everything in its proper place :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Hi Mark,

How about adding a link to the Kaiser Reset page on the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Kaiser_Resets.

Might help a few people with Hard Reseting.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Hey Dave,

Thanks for the tip, I put a link to it in my FAQ (post2 topic6) as its more appropriate there and I have absolutely no space left on the first post lol. Shame theres a limit on the size of the posts, if I want to add something I have to take something else out now lol.

MArk :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Want another post (#3)?

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Not yet thanks mate I have plenty of space on post#2 for my FAQ's and the guide is pretty much complete now I cant think of anything that would need adding to it as member participation has contributed to it becoming an ALMOST fool proof guide :p

I have noticed a dramatic drop in questions since I brought out the FAQ's so im hoping people are finding their own answers now :)

Adds to my boredom at night though haha I will have to find something else to do now :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Blackstone user guide :p

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
haha i might just look into that ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
I was only kidding. But if you are gimme a shout and I'll chip in what I can.:)

There is a USPL for Blackstone as well as a Hard SPL, and Olipro/cmonex have yet to release a SIM unlock tool.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Don't use JumpSPL for anything except the SPL.

Just flash any WM6.1 Radio from this thread: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Marchello777:
Dear, Dave!

I'm so happy for Your very good advice! Thank You ver much! Now I will be more carefull with new soft instalation... :)

But my camera is still not working...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
"Bob" suggests the 1.65.24.36 Nike radio, try that one.

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Whose "Bob" lol :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
If you have problems flashing your Rom please try reading Post#2 first as I have made very clear in my Guide. It would have answered your problem straight away without the need to wait for a response.

** FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND HELP WHEN FLASHING **

7. After I flash a Rom I dont have any sound in calls and the camera is black

The Radio has to match the version of Rom you flash i.e. WM6.1, an incorrect Radio will give sound and camera problems. Read The Ultimate Radio Thread to find a Radio that matches the Rom there are lots to try on there if one doesnt work then try another.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] serstylz2:
Anyone else notice that the camera album is upside down from this ROM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Marchello777:
to all of You...

I very thankfull for all advices! That helped me much! And sorry for so stupid questions - because in all these forum lists are to many advices, and for me it was a very big problem to understand - which is for my case. One more time - THANK YOU!!!

Novice. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
From what Rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
The only stupid questions are the ones you already know the answer to ;)

Hope you sorted everything out and have fun with your phone :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Bob the builder author of AthineOS :D :D

Yeah, I can't remember if this is fixed in newer build but it used to be, if the shortcut is set to start the Album in landscape mode then it is upside down.

I suppose you could try and find a newer HTC ablum cab.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Ohh ok you had me confused then haha.. Damn I thought he was just a cartoon character.. You learn something new everyday at XDA :D

Hey we should have that as our slogan haha :p

I dont think it actually is the wrong way round because its the same orientation as the camera app when you hold it in landscape mode with the camera button on top to take pictures. It would only make sense to have the album app the same way round since you can launch it from the camera screen :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
I don't know if his name is "Bob", but I've seen other people call him that.

That's a good point, I am thinking back to my days using Dutty's ROMs and just repeating what we said back then. If you do create a shortcut with the params to start it in landscape it does seem upside down though :)

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Oh well im sure he doesnt mind being called bob its a cool name :cool:

It may seem upside down compared to when you write texts or emails with the keyboard open but you dont have the keyboard open when you are in the Albums App, and it does make sense being the same orientation as the Camera App because you can easily switch between the 2. Just an observation but I think thats how its supposed to be :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] snarebum:
so ive been reading and getting ready to flash my first rom which by the way the guide looks like cake so thanks for that.

the whole reason im flashing rom/radio is to get the android to work on my htc tilt/kaiser.

after spending a good hour look for roms/radio. i have no clue what to get.

can anyone suggest what rom/radio i should use to actually get android on my phone?

heres the device information if that helps.

rom version:1.57.502.2

rom date:8/25/07

radio version: 1.27.12.11

protocol version: 22.45.88.07H

once again thanks for the guide.

and also do you have to upgrade your HardSPL after you flash it?

i hope i didnt break any rules.

thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] serstylz2:
Sorry... Dutty's 6.1

Also the keyboard is wrong when i use some Fn keys, I know there is a fix somewhere?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
There are only two threads concerning android on a Kaiser, so look here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782

or here;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=470649
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
**FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FOR HDIII & MANILA2D PART 1**

11. FN keys being mixed up on the keyboard (! @ : ; " # &):

AT&T tilt, must run the "tilt Keyboard fix" on any custom rom.

Download and install Tilt KeyBoard Fix to Device Memory.

If you dont have a tilt then use *THIS* fix
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] serstylz2:
worked like a charm thanks.. now i just have a few more questions about flashing roms each time afterwards..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
Once you are unlocked and HardSpl'd , just download a rom, plug in your phone and flash away or do it from the SD card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] networkdood:
ok, so if I take my TILT which has been upgraded to Windows 6.1 and has never been flashed since then (has SPL 3.56.0), and I were to flash this Hyper ROM, would you say that it is guaranteed that I would brick it. The guide looks easy to follow, except my mini USB port does not work anymore.

Thanks,

ok, I have read more of the materials and from I what I have read in the SPL link:

"Well, at the moment this is where we are at. We are still investigating the full effects of what an SPL can do to vary the performance of an OS. For now there is a large consensus that the newer HTC 6.1 ROM SPL seems to work well for most of the newer 6.1 ROMS (stock and cooked). You can get that SPL file here if you'd like to try it."

would imply that I should be able to download the HyperDragonIV ROM without getting HardSPL first.

If that is true then, would I still need to do a CID unlock so that my phone will be able to load the ROM without any rejection.

Sorry, If I am repeating any questions on the thread - I am trying not to.

SPL: 3.56.00

Radio: 1.65.21.18

ROM: 3.57.00.00

Protocal: 25.88.40.05H
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Just follow step5 to flash any rom via activesyn or microSD Card. You dont need to HardSPL anymore, it only needs doing once and thats it. Remember to follow each instruction exactly and Hard Reset as stated in the instructions AFTER you flash the Rom and you should be fine.

If you want to change your Radio (see post#2 for explanation) then follow step6.

Have fun :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
You cannot flash a Custom Rom without HardSPL on your phone. If you go into the Bootloader and it doesnt say .Hard or .Hard2 at the end of the SPL version then you do not have HardSPL and therefore PLEASE do not try to flash HyperDragon or any other Custom Rom.

If your mini usb port on your phone doesnt work anymore how are you charging it? If you can get an activesync between your phone and pc then you should be able to flash HardSPL which in turn will allow you to upgrade your phone. Activesync is the only way that you can flash HardSPL for the first time. After its on you can upgrade the HardSPL and change the Rom and Radio all via microSD Card.

Where did you get that information about the WM6.1 SPL being able to flash custom roms?

If you really want to try it then thats upto you but I cant guarantee your outcome will be sucessful. If you require more information then post back.

Good luck :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] networkdood:
Information on SPL came from your second post:

"2. What is the SPL (Second Program Loader)?

Read *HERE* for more information."

In there at the bottom it states:

"Well, at the moment this is where we are at. We are still investigating the full effects of what an SPL can do to vary the performance of an OS. For now there is a large consensus that the newer HTC 6.1 ROM SPL seems to work well for most of the newer 6.1 ROMS (stock and cooked). You can get that SPL file here if you'd like to try it."

My port is messed up as the 5 gold prongs are not all seating on the plastic protruding from the port itself. One prong is on another and the final one looks like it was pushed back. I can charge my phone via USB or other means, but I cannot Sync it. So, that is probably why I will not do it, until I can get a chance to replace the port. For now, I will try your Manila setup, as I have had HTC Customer for a while. So far it looks good as I am able to load the apps into my storage card and they work - the internet browser does not work. Weather, audio manager, people, apps, footprints work so far.

Thanks,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
The "here" means either of these two threads: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396922 or http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=420683

I am thinking about updating that wiki article when I can. It is baised towards kaiser users at the time when the whole 6.0/6.1 Hard SPL version argument kicked off. I would like to make it more general.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] networkdood:
Do not worry, because of my active sync issues (with the port) I cannot get HardSPL on my phones, so I will just stick with cab file programs.

Thanks,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] serstylz2:
You guys are HELPFUL! Thanks!

Just a little help needed from going from 3.29 to 3.56.. can't seem to get it due to i see no .exe file to copy over like i did with the jump files on the tutorial..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bje924:
help me please

So i did everything up until the radio unlock (step 2 of unlocker program) after i did that the phone turns on and syncs but i get a black screen, when i press the power button i get a screen like its on channel 3 (fuzzy background) please HELP!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
what version of windows mobile do u have on your phone at the moment? can u get back into the bootloader? If u can then read the 2nd line and verify that you have HardSPL loaded. If you have hardspl then you can flash back a compatible radio with your windows mobile version or you can go ahead and flash a custom rom. If you need to sim unlock your phone then do it after u upgrade your rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] networkdood:
Manila 2D

I tried your Manila 2D program - looks cool, but too many issues/quirks as you have posted. Maybe I will try it once you post the finalize version of it. Looks promising and I do not want to discourage you as I know that programming takes a lot of late hours.

Good Luck.