yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
Windows mobile 6.5 is RTM according to the official

windows mobile developer twitter profile.

Meaning Realeased To Manufacturing.

Meaning it's not out yet.

I haven't seen anything on here or ppcgeeks

that people have a copy of the official release yet.

Give it a few days,

and then it'll be a little while before they port it over.

And there will not be an official release for our vogues. :(

HAHAHA! :eek::eek:

Woops.

That too.

But I didn't get anything like that from my Anti Virus,

What program are you using? (Anti virus program.)

It's all on IMCokeMan's shoulders,

it's because of the way he wrote his last unlocker that doesn't allow a stock rom to relock your phone, and there's no relocker program specifically to relock our vogues. I doubt there will ever be a fix for that for our vogues since they are pretty old. But with the amount of people that still use and enjoy their vogues, I think we should post over at the unlocker thread and flood it till we get an answer/fix to this. ;)

But what I'm trying to say is this is more suited for discussion at the ImCokeMan's unlocker thread as he has coded the unlocker to give us this relocking problem.

Plus someone there might know the exact way to relock the phone that will keep this problem from happening.

Most carriers will not even care or notice that it's unlocked.

It's basically the custom rom that is a dead giveaway.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
FAQ UPDATE:

I have added the new version of Artesea's Twitter to the faq.

It is now compliant with wvga, vga, qvga, and wqvga.

Enjoy, I personally like this one alot better than CTwitter.

Best thing is, there's no additional programs needed.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Old faithful:
bricking while relocking/reverting to the OEM EXE

Well, I learned something today. I went on to the PPCGeeks forum and discovered I had a PM sitting there since... March!

Anyway, this great member, gp-se, told me he also had had a problem with reloading the OEM EXE. His solution was to put the phone in bootlader mode BEFORE connecting it to the PC. Apparently it solved his problem not being able to reload the OEM EXE directly from ActiveSync/WMDC.

Also, in order for the OEM EXE to fully relock the phone, apparently you must run the 0.40 unlocker but NOT let the boot continue after it has loaded. Remember, 0.40 is incompatible with that radio, so stop it right there. You simply want the OEM EXE to be able to run normally so that it will hopefully overwrite the whole thing, nbh, radio and loader.

I also suggest you read mixxy's excellent guide to downgrade for warranty purposes. You will notice that he recommends to NOT put the phone in bootloader mode before running the OEM EXE, also, he recommends to run the 1.59.10a OEM EXE. I know it's been written a long time ago, but presumably after that your phone will be back to OEM condition with the 1.0x loader and from that, you can reload the 3.42.50.

Bottom line, whenever you revert to 0.40 loader it would seem the only reliable method to revert to OEM is to load the 1.59.10a OEM.EXE. I reread all of gp-se's posts here and that's the OEM EXE he used to successfully revert the phone to OEM.

I agree with codybear that the problem would be solved if the 2.31 unlocker could be written over, and with Viper Matrix Wireless that we do need a universal, overwritable loader compatible with the latest radio versions.

There is also the issue of the radio. It does seem, after extensive reading, that where and how it is written/erased is not well understood. In otherwords, your radio may show version 3.xx.xx whereas its code hasn't been actually written over, or it has been only partially written over...

It would seem important, I believe, if this issue of reverting the phone back to OEM condition was fully adressed and understood before loading any custom ROM. Otherwise you may well be stuck with having to use custom ROMS from there on...

Hope it helps!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Spalla:
Avira AntiVir (the free one)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] NFSFAN:
I pay 30 more a month now because of the unlimited data plan. So around $65 CAD in total. I wish those guys from ppchaven bought me the phone lol. I'm planning on staying with the Touch Pro, I won't be getting the Touch Pro 2, seeing as its the same deal when it comes to hardware. I will depend on donations even more heavily, due to the increase in my data plan. I'm not rich, simply got the Touch Pro in order to cook ROMs for it, hopefully those who are using a Touch Pro will like it.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Old faithful:
If I understand your meaning correctly, basically, once unlocked, there is no way to fully revert back safely, and to live with it... Doesn't that bother you? Imagine if we couldn't completely wipe our hard drives clean and reload our systems from scratch!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
Haha, I agree.

But I will only use a custom rom.

I really don't care about insturance/warranty.

They can kiss my a*s.

If they have a problem with me unlocking my phone,

then I'll just take the phone back home,

fry the chips, and then take it in to a different store. lol.

There's always a loophole.

Not really, stock roms=sh*ttyness.

It however does bother me about not being able to relock for a warranty thing,

but I don't have insurance/warranty on my phone.

Newer phones, like my friends touch pro,

has it's own relocker to avoid this issue.

I think it the vogue lock/unlock was abandoned when ImCokeMan had gotten a newer phone.

I've never even heard of it.

I wonder if it has something to do with one of the OEM's included.

I'll download that program and see if I can get the same warning.

Yes and no.

The TP2 has the dual mic/speakers, and a couple other little enhancements.

I'm assuming it has the keyboard fix too.

Since the Touch Pro's keyboard seems to become completely useless on 4 out of 5 touch pros.

$65? that's it? geez.

I wish mine was $65.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
Woops,

Faq has been updated again,

I accidentally put the new artesea twitter panel download link

as the original thread link.:rolleyes:

I have adjusted it,

and put instructions to install the panel.

I'm testing a start menu reorder program right now,

will post when I put it in the faq.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mhrc4:
werd.

thanks for the heads up.

the cooked ROM has been stable all weekend, just have to get some things ironed out to get it all setup how i want it.

Thanks for all the work on the FAQ, it really is a general FAQ that answers alot more questions regarding 6.5 on the Vogue, not neccesarily specific to NFSFAN's ROM, in my opinion, so thanks for that....
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Old faithful:
No wonder you're so casual about money... You're from AZ, one of the richest places on this planet! NFSFAN and myself are from the Great White North, where we work 6 months of the year to pay our taxes and the rest to save enough to survive our 5 months long winters!!!... Besides, he's a student, $65 is per month is a lot of money for him and for many other cannucks!!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
That was kinda my goal. ;)

I plan on maiking it a one stop shop for after a rom flash for 6.5.

I will probably end up turning it into a completely 6.5 general faq

when I make my rom,

and then have a section for all my rom tweaks I put into my rom.

I've been kicking around a few different ideas.

I am probably going to be making a twitter account also,

so people can follow whats new on the faq with ease. ;)

**FAQ UPDATE!!**

I have added the reSTART program from showaco.

You can reorder the 6.5 start menu,

and can change the icons for items also.

To add your own icons,

copy them to the \program files\reSTART\icons

directory and then they will show up in the program.

CLICK ME TO GO TO THE SECTION reSTART IS IN!​
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
richest place? hahahahahaha.

now that's just ridiculous.

I'm a full time college student,

I only have a work-study job at the college,

that means I get 7.25 a hour, and can only work up to 19 hours a week.

That means every two weeks I get 275.50,

I don't even make enough to pay taxes on my paychecks.

lol.

I just don't worry about things as minuscule as money.

Afterall it's just paper with a serial number.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Old faithful:
OK, OK, Peace, Man!

Great attitude about money, love your enthusiasm :)

I went to AZ once, in winter of 1982... Coming from the backwoods of the Laurentians, north of Montreal, where snow starts end of November and lasts until end of April, I was shocked at the affluence and seeming abundance I saw in the suburbs of Phoenix...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
OFF-TOPIC

Yeah, there are places here where people just go above

and beyond of what's really necessary.

Kinda pisses me off considering they don't need most of that,

and that they could give back to the rest of the world,

but instead they just sit there and accumulate more and more things.

ugh, I could go on and on about this and other topics,

but it doesn't belong in this forum.

@everyone that was talking about the Touch Pro2,

I posted a thread in the TP2 section asking if anyone knew if the

TP2 still has the TP's keyboard problem,

so hopefully we'll know soon if it'll be something we

should take into consideration or if we'll just have to be cautious about the keyboard.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jmitr:
from codybear:

Just your phone, mine doesn't :D It really depends where your sitting. There are LOTS of computers running things on the airplane. One example is the AHRS (attitude and heading reference system, tells the airplane which way is up and where it's going). If someone has a transmitting device within a row of where those are it can have an effect. There can be a problem with your phone loocking on severall cell towers at the same time and locking things up on the ground as well. I keep mine in flight mode anyways to save the battery while flying. If I could get a signal at 25,000' and use ics to get internet on my laptop I'd be doing it!!!!

Sounds good, always fun to try new things!!

from NFSFAN:

Darn!! 30 more a month sucks, i've got 1.7 years left on my 3 year slave sentance. Have to see what the 2010/11 line up brings from HTC!!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
lol, well can't a good pilot fly without all the electronics? :P

just kidding!!

Three years!! I thought two years was bad!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Moose8106:
Hahaha I'm beast I got sprint to give me unlimited data for free lol I threatened to cancel and my current plan is I pay $43.50 a month (that's tax included) and I get Unlimited text (7.50) Unlimited Data (free) and roaming with 200 anytime minutes and unlimited nights and weekends (30.00) I've got a great plan except minuntes (but I really don't use my minutes):)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Moose8106:
sorry off-topic

Did anyone hear about the dude who works at sprint and he took pics of him and his Palm pre but never blurred out his face now he's all worried he'll lose his job, man that sucks especially in this economy:( But!!! my cousin's fiance is the owner of a sprint store and all sprint stores have at least one guy learning with the palm pre right now so i'm gonna see if I could check it out that'd be awesome!!!:)

http://forums.precentral.net/palm-p...sored-deleted-thread-all-merged-reopened.html

and just palm's website

http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
Lol, I started reading that thread,

that's funny.

Ugh, I'm bout to give up on xda.

Their servers suck.

I guess I'll be releasing my rom on ppcgeeks instead.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Moose8106:
Hey! Don't leave us hangin! lol just make sure you let people know if/when this happens cause I wanna try your rom out

500 INternal server error error error error error damn that's annoying
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
Haha, I won't abandon.

I'll still be here.

I just hate the servers lol.

That's why when I get my rom up and running,

I'm going to put the donate thing that all rom cookers have,

but for the site instead. ;)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Yes! I returned it without a problem.

I think that if we could flash 2.01 stock bootloader individually that we would have no problem whatsoever.

In 0.40 & 0.41 the problem is basically that its non-GPS & it supports earlier radios only version 1 & 2. When a ROM in version 3 is installed it tends to brick. I have studied n found that when you run a stock rom on 0.41 it doesnt have CDMA as part of the setup =Radio. Boot images 1 & 2 load fine but when it hits OS I believe its error 0018009 something like that comes up via mem card method. Now I think it may be safer to run the stock rom setup while in the custom rom as it should update the bootloader. I havent tried the method but its basically skipping 0.41.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mhrc4:
how about you look into making a decent WM twitter client? ;) the ones out right now f*cking blow. :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] codybear:
Haha, have you tried the new artesea twitter panel?

It doesn't use a separate program.

It's showing real potential.

But I might throw that on my to do list for the summer. ;)

Yeah, i just wish he would redo the unlocker so it will allow the bootloader to be overwritten when you flash a stock rom, he has it set up to not allow it to overwrite it. That would solve this problem, yes, it would be a pain to unlock after every flashing of a stock rom, but definitely worth it.

But glad to hear you were able to return no problem.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] magicalan:
supp lol any news about anithing? weres nsfsfan? :( i have not put a new rom in a while now :o
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
I do have a new set of instructions that work fix the issue for now.

However, all of us need something which I hope all of us will look for.

Originally, when the touch came out & when I got my replacement it still had the 1 version OS & 1 version radio installed. We need to look for the original roms.

In the re-lock section it needed to be changed from newest to earliest rom.

There needs to be links to certain carrier earliest stock roms

Instructions:

1. To re-lock use IMCokemans 0.41 unlocker.

2. Flash your carriers ROM from this page in bootloader mode (hold power + camera key) I think.

3. After flashing to carriers earliest stock ROM. Download your carriers newest rom.

4. Install the ROM as it will upgrade the bootloader version to 2.01 & it will install the newest version successfully! Now your relocked!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
6.5 Flashed Reset Reboot Loop

After installing the 6.5 cab it looked as though the device was stuck in a reset/reboot loop. After a few minutes the phone just soft resets itself. I have hard reset after the install and the issue persists.

After a little further investigation it seems that the phone is OK with making an outbound phone call, but when an incoming phone call is being received the phone resets.

Plz Help!

Thank You all in advance

Edit: Looks to work if it is plugged in to external power. The battery has charged to 100% but will reset if unplugged from external power. This is a new phone, there are no known issues with the battery.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
This is a problem that I had. How did you flash your device?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
I first unlocked the device then I ran NFSFAN's WM6.5 V8 ROM ROMUpdateUtility.exe. Is there another way?

Of course.. there's the Kitchen, but I don't want to mess with building my own kitchen, but again, if it works, it works and I'm happy
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Did you flash in bootloader or on top of the windows mobile home screen?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
I connected the device to ActiveSync and I believe that resets the phone into a bootloader.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] fwaits:
What is your wireless provider and did you flash a newer radio before upgrading to NFSFAN's ROM? I think you need to have a relatively newer radio running for these ROM's to operate correctly, but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe someone else more knowledgeable here can verify.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
No. It does not.

I believe when I flashed in the windows mobile home screen I had that problem.

To get into bootloader you must hold power n camera key at the same time n then run the ROM from there.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Yes you only have to do that if you havent upgraded to the 3 radio rom from 1.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
Can you point me to the radio driver update download?

Sorry, I have searched and I'm lost as to which one I need
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Do me a favor reboot your device it will show a P: R: D: on the lower right side tell me what it says for R:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
R: 3.37.78

Already, Two BIG thumbs up to this community, thanks guys.

I just flashed it in the boot loader. Testing it now
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Ok verizon customer right?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
Correct. It's still resetting after running the ROM from the bootloader
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Problem is you created a double system when you started it in the home screen this is why it resets when not on a usb type connection. You might want to do this three times in a row. but do not let it reboot after flashing keep going back into bootloader till its done three times after the third time then youll want to actually hold power green key n red key n then hit green key then hit the middle button.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
If this doesnt work then the solution id give u isnt a total solution due to the lack of original stock early roms.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
OK, to verify here's what I'm doing..

Put the phone into bootloader

Run the ROM update

After it gets to 100% don't let the phone reset all the way, instead put it back into bootloader

Run the update again

Again, after it gets to 100% reset it into bootloader again

run the update once more

After it gets to 100%, do a hard reset

let it run and test if it works
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TedBrew:
Done.

Left USB Connected, ran through setup..

Customization run, automatic reset after completion..

Phone came back up, WM 6.5 running..

Tested a phone call, outgoing.. OK.. incoming.. OK..

Unplugged USB.. PHONE RESET..
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Still having problems?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Viper Matrix Wireless:
Your gonna have to flash back to the Verizon ROM
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Scott_T:
So far I am very happy with this ROM. It has been running very smooth, and is not bloated with everything including the kitchen sink.

Kudos.

Scott
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mixxy:
i think atm its not working...but hes working on a fix in the future to address the issue
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] gbmitchell:
ROM WARS!!!!!!!!!

IT'S CHEF VS. CHEF ACTION!!!!!!!!!!!

ITS NOT JUST A BATTLE

ITS A BATTLE ROYALE!!!!!!!

Seriously though, can you just make an exe installer on the update this weekend.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] prometheus9000:
OEM

Is there anyway you might share some of yours OEMs.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] eric2k:
This is a HTC Vogue Forum? So No it THIS ROM IS NOT for the HTC Diamond.

Check out the sub forum here for the HTC Diamond if you would like custom Rom for your diamond.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] OpenWave:
*PeeU* It reeks of testosterone in here!

11 pages on alleged plagiarized custom ROM's! Are we supposed to extradite NFSFAN to PpcGeeks to stand trial or something?! lol Give credit where credit is due and don't look a gift horse in the mouth (wth did I write that for?)

I might just install this ROM tonight and give it a try. Does the 'free' tethering 'internet sharing' work for Bell?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheChampJT:
Wow! I'd really like to say more, but wow :D!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Coldheat1906:
:)

uh.... not to changed the subject... but NFSAN can you add the Opal Dialer to your Sprint 1.01 ROM of this Thread.

Thanks,
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] OpenWave:
Hey thanks Eric for your help (I'm going to need it) lol

Will add you when I get home tonight on a real computer, maybe you can explain how the the remote desktop application works, thanks again!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] eric2k:
I replied on this issue already,

The opal dialer has some issues since it is GSM and we have a cdma phone. That is why it is not being used at this time.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Coldheat1906:
Thanks, couldn't find your reply in all the other arguments on this thread. ;)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] no2chem:
a)

International Copyright Act

Article 4

Computer Programs

Computer programs are protected as literary works within the meaning of Article 2 of the Berne Convention. Such protection applies to computer programs, whatever may be the mode or form of their expression.

(for those not familiar with the Berne convention, The Berne Convention states that all works except photographic and cinematographic shall be copyrighted for at least 50 years after the author's death)

b) clearly, this applies with or without copyright notice.

c) nueUSB was clearly protected by international copyright law

d) nueUSB was a component of nueROM, which clearly has its own license agreement.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Coldheat1906:
Does the Sprint version of this ROM have the Tethering Hack built into it?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] TheChampJT:
I personally don't want to jump in the middle of this great debate, but it seems it has gone on here the moment this thread was opened. I have yet to read all the posts in full, but from the few I have read, it seems to be getting out of hand. I've seen some big names in here, mainly those most active in other forums. I understand from what I have seen that there is work posted with this ROM that either shouldn't be, or no credit was given. In all honesty though, I'm not sure how much longer I feel like watching this thread go back and forth with who is right and wrong.

Perhaps this thread needs to be closed, or resolved ASAP.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] pierre1321:
i second that and third that or whatever it takes, but i would like to see it resolved cause sometime soon i would like to test this rom, even though i admit i did add to the ignorance
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] pierre1321:
can you tell me what size page pool you are using and what the memory size is for storage and programs, also do you have any extra cab files for games or apps, and i might have gotten lost in all the blazing guns and smoke but was there any response to the sprint tv working or sprint telenav, thanks:confused:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] JimmyMcGee:
OK This is the Official Warning to Everyone.

We are going to take NFSFAN's word that there is not stolen work in his ROM anymore.

We are not going to talk of this issue any further.

Any further discussion will result in a ticket to banville courtesy of me, JimmyMcGee

Thanks.