yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] calisoldier83:
I concur with stopthebus. Yes I cook my own roms but they dont have the little tinkering that are professionally proven like NFS is able to do. When the M2D hit with the touch pro, diamond, etc i was devistated because it was a setback in progression in my opinion. It slows everything down and it never was appealing to me.

Navigation via quickmenu/HTC home is the best option in my opinion, like OMJ used to cook. I don't mind installing my own Home screen and I don't think its that hard to add M2D on your own, if you like it. I think, it would be apathetic if cooks like NFSfan would give us a Non-M2D version and a M2D version.

I appreciate the roms NFS puts out and whoever is making the best ROM for our touchs. I can't do what they do, but I know what's best for me. Navigation via M2D doesn't feel perfect for me. Why add it if its so controversial and so easy to install on your own?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] NFSFAN:
M2D doesn't slow anything down at all. The only thing it does is take up 3mb of memory, which is nothing. If you don't want it, just disable it from the Today options. Makes no difference in speed with/without it cooked in. M2D IMO was a step forward for HTC, it allows finger friendly usage, and best of all it has a simple GUI.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
The quantifying point still remains, the majority are using M2D/TF2D - regardless of user installation or not - the majority of Chefs are utilizing it as it is on the "higher" end phones (newer is more accurate except in regards to video acceleration, wi-fi, etc) so why create for the minority when the availability (see screenshots given) to have what was available in the original 6.1 rather than 6.1 with M2D or even 6.5 with Titanium interface -this is much akin to the currently discussed threads regarding "why dont people make ROMs with the cube interface", the answer is simple, not enough of a demand and its old tech (not better or worse just old) and people want the newest to explore and use and when it is no longer all that shiney and impressive then BOOM HEADSHOT out comes 6.5 Titanium interfaces and soon BANG POW WinMO 7.0

Not saying its a good or bad thing, but if you can get enough people to actually make a request for new sys/xip integration into 6.1 style interfaces (idea make a new thread calling for Chefs to create with a simple 6.1 interface with or without cube) and Im positive if enough people respond on that thread it will happen - hell maybe even NFSFAN will start making 3 style of ROMs 6.1 cube/original, M2d and 6.5 as well but I dont think anyone on XDA, PPCGeeks, PPC-Heaven or anywhere else has abandoned the 2 of you, just there isnt enough hours in a day to please everyone regardless of how many or few with every wish in the world especially when this is a hobby NOT a profession

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jmitr:
Hey Htctoucher,

forgot that was one of your beefs with 15316.

Yes that is fixed, you can always see what your typing.

cheers,
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] htctoucher:
oh sweet!

definitely gonna try that out then ;)

thanks man
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] kjhadfield:
6.1 sprint rom 1.12

ok so i just started having a big problem 2day. i didnt have this problem w/ sprint 1.09 or 1.10 or 1.11.

i always flash like this: flash stock, let cust. run, flash custom rom, let cust. run, hard reset.

i didnt add any new apps or do anything different than the earlier rom versions.

i woke up 2day, got on internet, everything was fine. a couple hours later i get back on my phone and it says tap 2 launch touchflo. (never had 2 do this before) i tap and nothing. in settings i turn off touchflo, back on, nothing. i soft reset, nothing.

in settings, today, i have timeout unchecked, i havent changed anything in advancted config., or in reg.

can sum1 pls help me troubleshoot and fix this.

thank you 4 your help
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] abhik1:
Has nobody else noticed this?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
I just went in and tried to duplicate it and I think I have, your attempting to search for names using the "phone keypad" style keyboard correct?

I think its happening because its primarily a digit rather than alpha device hence the name phone keypad.

While yes it is also used via text/SMS usage but the application understand Alpha then numeric versus a dialing device that take numeric prior to alpha when in a phone usage e.g. contact aka phone book

I dont know how let alone if there is a fix for this directly although myself I primarily use either FingerKB (which is fantastic BTW) or the keyboard or even the full qwerty keyboard in that order

So, yes it has been noticed and duplicated, but I dont think its so much a bug as much as an incompatibility and something someone may be able to fix or something you may have to become accustom to in regards to utilizing a different interface

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] atoz350:
It looks like your phone is still locked. You'll have to unlock it first. use this unlocker from IamcoKEMAN. It is version 2.31.

After you run this then re-flash the ROM of your choosing.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] atoz350:
It looks like your phone is still locked. You'll need to unlock it before you can flash a custom ROM. Use this unlocker by IamcoKEMAN. It comes with SPL version 2.31. After you flash this then you can flash the ROM of your choosing. I've found this one to work the best for me.

It can be found at:[http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370]
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vilord:
First thing would be the theme as NFSFan mentioned.

Beyond that, I've sometimes had trouble with some of the m2d tabs.

Try going back to the customizer and turning off all but the main tab, then see if it'll launch. Also, did you change the font or anything?

You DID remember to let the customizations run, right? This rom has customizations put together by the cook, so they are required, don't skip them.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrenaline0210:
hey nfsfan thank god I heard through the rumor mill that you were over here and no longer at ppchaven. everythings working great with 1.09 verizon as far as I can tell.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] retesh101:
Hi, can anybody help

I am trying to upgrade this ROM and when it restarts the device and shows three color line at that time it's breaking the connection with my pc (WN vista) and them it show me error because it's not getting conneted again.

Thanks,

Retesh
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] natefish:
Hey, just wanted to say I am sorry to see you leave PPCHaven. I wish you guys could have worked things out more peacefully. I will miss seeing your work over there. Best of luck.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] atoz350:
Try manually putting the phone into bootloader by holding the power, and the camera buttons while pressing the reset with the stylus. After it's in the tri-color screen, flash the ROM. This helps me when the phone is being stubborn.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] hooover:
Before all that make sure you are unlocked with ImCoKeMaN's Vogue unlocker found here : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jbos6:
I've tried unlocking by connecting the phone (activesync shows connected) and running the unlocker EXE on the PC ... the command screen comes up for a moment but doesn't show anything (tho the instructions say it will), then it closes. THe EXE isn't supposed to be run ON the phone, correct? (The instructions say it's not.) I feel like I'm missing something, but I'm following the instructions as best I can tell.

Should I put it into bootloader mode and see if I can flash the ROM then?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jbos6:
uh-oh ...

Sooooo ... I think I might've bricked the damn thing. I unlocked the phone (I figured out what I was doing wrong there) and then used NFSFAN's custom ROM ... and now it's stuck on the VerizonWireless screen. I can hard reset it, but it stay on that screen. Umm .... help???
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jbos6:
Well, I flashed to the Verizon 3.14 ROM and the phone came back. I think one heart-attack is enough for one day, I'll be sticking with this one for the moment. until I get bored.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vilord:
This happened because you hadn't updated the radio. You would have needed to flash to the bell rom first to get the radio (without letting customizations run), then flash to this one.

Now that you have the vzw rom on there you'll have a little more trouble getting GPS to work without vznavigator, but you can read about that elsewhere.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] hemirunner426:
hey NFSFAN, i have a custom Alltel arcsoft 3.0.26.12c OEM that i have tweaked and got rid of the extra useless picture stuff that is included. If you like, i can post that on here to use in your Alltel ROM. I have included it in many of my builds and works fine.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] harley!:
NFSFAN - this follows my inquiries over at haven. I'm on VZW 1.09.

I'm still have some battery drain issues with a rare occurrence where the phone shuts itself down after going into sleep mode. Only way to start up again is by removing the battery. Didn't see this on any prior ROM versions.

Also, the phone won't hard reset. When I try, it shuts itself down.

Any ideas? (before I undertake to return the unit . . .)

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] masterslacker:
Hey NFSFAN and his fans,

I'm curious about the status of a few features in the ROM, and I can't seem to find information in the thread on these. So if anybody knows, I'd really appreciate any info you can give.

1. Regarding Opera 9.5 and the Bell 1.25 ROM, is there a build that supports both Flash and the T9 keyboards? I heard NFSFAN made a special build of 2745 that is flash-capable, but I'm not sure where to find it or if it supports the keyboards.

2. Regarding the white diamond dialers, which dialer is currently in the Bell 1.25 ROM: Is it the dialer with push buttons (red ignore and green answer), or is it the dialer with the slide to answer/ignore feature?

Thanks a bunch!

Mike.

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using Bell 1.20 NFSFAN Rom
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] gt!:
Slide to answer/ignore.

-GT
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] masterslacker:
Thanks for letting me know!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] atoz350:
I think its more of a problem with the computer you are using to flash with. The command prompt should stay open and give you instructions during the process. Do you have another computer to try it on? What are you running? XP or Vista?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] adrenaline0210:
nfsfan can you provide me with some details on how to get mms to send. Still getting the originator address not found error.

I went through online and tried to find the post with the settings but all of your posts have been deleted from ppchaven.

vzw 1.09

Not able to send mms

reproducable: yes even after flash

Try's: checked through settings in reg, however not sure what to chose or add. tried the vzw carrier settings.cab which if im not mistaken i dont actually need to run anymore anyways.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] harley!:
I have 1.09 and haven't experienced MMS problems. Anyway, try this link and look toward the middle of the first post. The settings you'll need should be there. Sorry, I looked and can't find them after they were deleted at the Haven, even though I thought I saved them somewhere. Good luck!

http://www.ppchaven.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=4&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

You'll need a registry editor. Use the following program and you can access and edit the registry from your desktop:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Personally sounds as if something corrupted, the steps are solid although the flash to the original ROM is an extra step that isnt needed (Im on Sprint as well without issue on connections or settings) although I am using the WinMO6.5

I am wondering though, although you state you have installed nothing, did you use PIM or SPB Backup to restore anything? perhaps too many items were restored and corrupted something - just a guess as its hard to troubleshoot without being hands on LOL

I would personally hard reset and go from there again ...

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Hey,

I installed and tested it on some sites that would crap out previous builds and fairly solid and quick although I did notice when I was typing a reply in a text window to a friend of mine (which is a java app within a HTML page) and it would not scroll across following the text but I really didnt it expect to as its a subwindow of java.

Checked a couple others though and no issues although the site above did stall hard on a page attempting to click off to another sub-page and had to shut-down and kill the app then restart and it was fine.

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] htctoucher:
have you noticed that it is jerkier?

i mean scrolling and panning and also zooming in and out?

it doesnt seem as smooth as other builds and also panning is slower, even when i set the velocity to 200..

and i just tried typing in xda.. the screen definitely does not move when you type out of the screen.. so.. back to 15746
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] abhik1:
so why does this issue still occur when I use Compact QWERTY. And when I really think about it...it shouldn't matter if the keypad or a keyboard is used to enter the letters. As long as the keyboard is set to entering letters and not numbers, everything should be ok. In any case, again, why does this occur even if I use the compact keyboard? Even when I use the compact keyboard in ABC mode, only the corresponding numbers are entered into the "Enter a name..." box and not the appropriate letters. Anyone? Thanks! Peace.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Actually no, I didnt - its seemed very smooth and quick in rendering and access as well as zoom-in/zoom-out, hit all my usual sites quick and without problems other than the one I had, but other than that it all seemed OK on my phone.

But IMHO I actually like Mobile IE, seems to works with all the sites I go to, is fully integrated with the HTC/MS OS, quick and stable (yes I am sure this will be the match to an impending flame war) but the majority of times Im on Mobile IE on my phone (NEVER on any of my Desktops or laptops at work or at home though as IE on the desktop absolutely sucks)

I dont mind Opera and impressed with it and even liked an early alpha of Mobile Firefox as well (although FAR from usable in day to day)

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] htctoucher:
yeah i want to try the new ie in 6.5.. i hear 21202 has some improvements in stability and minor speed improvements to ie but i of course cannot confirm that :D
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] kjhadfield:
i flashed the rom 4 days ago. i used pim to restore only contacts(61). an like i say all was fine after, and it ha s been 2 days since i download anything, an all of a sudden this.

any other ideas?

i would go back 2 rom1.11 but i had 2 problems w/ that. 1 was rss, i would try an refresh but get an error bout not enough storage, i have 4gb sd. and 2 sprint pic mail i get error setting it up an would be able 2 setup. both are working on rom 1.12.

if there are any more suggestions on a way 2 fix always tap 2 launch and nothing be4 i do hard reset?

thanks agian
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
well like I explained its primarily a numeric first keyboard and your in a phone book application, something that although assigned visually by name references primarily numbers

I tried in ALL my keyboards including letter recognizer and all were fine in finding letters (alpha) before numbers (numeric) in that instance, probably as those keyboards are true Aplha-numeric rather than the interface attempting to emulate the original phone interfaces that were on old land-line style as well as current clamshell style phones that are numeric-alpha in design and the way they interface with a phone app is based on that old styling

again, I dont think its a bug, just the way the interface/app was designed and where it works in word/text applications fine regardless of the 123 or ABC selection the phone book/dialing app is referring to number first and only was designed to

sorry I cant be more help in a "fix" but I personally dont think it is broke, just not designed properly for your desire and the desire of others

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
In truth, Ive got nothing on this one..

as explained by you-

4 days ago flash (fine)

restored 61 contacts(fine)

setup RSS on SD Card (fine)

Setup Sprint Pic mail (fine)

Download something 2 days ago (fine)

2 days later (not fine) something crashing M2D and not allowing to start

Any themes, color changes, backgrounds, configurators, anything? something changed in there and its that thats having the issue with M2D

Hate to think that maybe there is something hardware based as it sounds solid in a hardware sense, can you remove the battery then the SD card and restart the phone and see if it comes up - kinda out of ideas and thinking maybe something on the card and at least its a check/diagnostic to see

there is something, but seriously I can figure it out, there is something crashing your M2D but without more details I can have without literally holding it, im out of ideas

Sorry, hopefully someone else can pull something

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] BoboBrazil:
I upgraded to 6.5 v4 and my data connection doesn't work anymore with Sprint. Can someone help me find out what the problem is and how I might be able to fix this?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] olibt:
V5

Is v5 comming out soon? :confused:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Did you flash let customizations run the hard reset and reflash it first (again I dont know why but it seems to fix issues that would arise without double-flashing)

Have you checked start>settings>connections>comm manager and make sure you data connection is on?

I know sounds simplistic, but its a start

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Erik2K stated earlier, he and NFSFAN are working on it and it would be out tonight... so it will happen when its ready and we just have to wait it out or check back in the AM (still only 10PM my time in Las Vegas) but understood its 1AM on the east coast and time is relative around the world depending on your location

I personally hope it will be out soon or an update at least - but I have no issues on waiting either as I would rather a solid, stable release than a rushed one because people are impatient or waiting LOL

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] olibt:
Youre right, theres no need for a rush,

I think i'm gonna go to sleep even if I want to flash this update so bad ( math class tomorrow morning :( )

Thanks for the precision!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Shidell:
Just wanted to toss out two thanks--Detroit Doug, thanks for being what is essentially a community manager. You seem to keep things on track and set things straight, and I see eye-to-eye with you on what seems to be everything brought up so far. Thanks for the vigilance.

NFSFAN, I'm simply awed by your knowledge on this topic. I have no idea how you know so much. Thanks again for your efforts, they are truly appreciated by the community.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] abhik1:
To test your hypothesis, I reinstalled the 6.1 update ROM released by HTC/Verizon. I was able, without constraint or problems, to enter names easily with the keypad while it was set in ABC mode. No issues arose concerning the entering of numbers instead of letters even if the keypad was in letter mode. I can't help but state the hypothesis that the custom roms DO have some sort of bug and as such I must be firm in my persistent inquiry into this issue. NFSFan, I know you are busy and respect your work, but I must ask, have you encountered the same issue? Is this a bug?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
I personally appreciate the words, not intended nor planned I assure you, I dont think there is a ROM or a Chef I havent tested and ran to be honest from Vito, Conflipper, Dette, WhosDaMan, Dres and the list goes on and on various versions and tests and the like and something that just always sticks with me is to give back however possible, currently NFSFAN has the most stable, fastest ROMs available and his 6.5 for me now have been rock solid, so I have donated as well as try to help out here as well in some way to help back the community as well as this Chef as well

again thanks

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Detroit_Doug:
Sweet, personally THANK YOU for taking the time to actually diagnose the issue with me.. based on conjecture and testing and process of elimination that leaves this in NFSFANs hands solely now, the only thing else I can think of is versions, what version of the keypad is the original on the HTC/Verizon ROM versus the ROM your using from NFSFAN and once that can be compared as well as the version of HTC/Verizons phone book versus the one used in the ROM and we can trace it from there...

NFSFAN can you shed any light to the versionings and perhaps there is an issue there or perhaps with a component with those keypads that may not be pulling numeric-alpha in that order with the contact app?

Detroit Doug
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] NFSFAN:
Loooking at the SIP input files, it looks to me that there is no control over the text input keys on the compact/phone keypad inputs. I'll look into this further when I have time.

The v5 6.5 may come out tonight...

EDIT: Just tested on my 6.5 build. Compact and PhoneKeypad inputs seem fine.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] abhik1:
awesome. I do love working together to make the world better, one step at a time :-p I'm just really surprised nobody else noticed this issue. It's the first thing I noticed after installing the 6.5 rom. Is everyone using full qwerty keyboards on their tiny little screens these days? Man...I love a good keypad, I can type words out with a keypad with my eyes closed using T9. I've found it to be much much faster than using a full keyboard on such a tiny little screen. I would have thought this issue would be quite noticeable, considering we all are forced to switch keyboards frequently as we switche between Contacts and other applications such as Messaging. Has nobody else noticed that both the Compact Qwerty keyboard and the keypad are pretty much useless when searching for contacts? Hm...In any case, I love this stuff! Peace!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] htctoucher:
man i cant decide if i should go to bed or just wait..

could you do me a lil favor and tell me if you think itll be out in the next 30-60 min.. it would really help me out :D

thanks man for your awesome work

htctoucher
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] intimidatorx31:
LOL i dunno why but this rom v5 seems like the most anticipated rom.

Ive been checkin for the past 3 days lol on the hour every hour!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] NFSFAN:
If eric2k hurries up with my darn icon for Titanium Customizer I would've released it by now.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] htctoucher:
mm cant wait for that icon then haha