yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] t12icky0:
sorry to be a noob but i copied the file onto my sd card like stated. it loads up the bootloader then goes into a screen that just says loading. Is this right or do i need to do something else? also if so how long does it take to load up from the usb and install?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Did you unlock your device prior to trying an upgrade?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Try to install PocketCM and use the texting feature there. If it works, then you have a problem with Outlook. If it doesn't, it could be either the rom or the network itself. Check your EPST and make sure that all your settings are OK (call your service provider if you are not certain about them)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] WOOPTIEWOOUS:
wounder

never mind
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] READREADERS:
nfsfan

removed for permission
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You are supposed to ask the author for permission to do this kind of things. It isn't a rule or anything, but I am sure NFS spent a lot of time tweaking his rom to have it the way everyone liked. I suggest that you pm him asking him for it. He is still pretty active in the Touch Pro CDMA (Herman) section. Please remove the d/l link until NFS gives you the ok. Thanks for understanding.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] picturethismister:
Thanks a lot for pointing us in the right direction in order to try Android. I will be flashing my vogue with Android...hopefully it gets a new lease of life :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dxiong:
If you are used to Windows Mobile, why not try other ROMs with the latest Microsoft builds. Even though NFSFAN no longer cooks for Vogue, there are a whole bunch of other talented chefs cooking the latest builds for our Vogue users like crazy. To name a few, egzthunder1 still makes new ROMs for us, Barogi44 still cooks for us, there are also 2 new cooks making excellent ROMs, Millers ROM and B-ROM. VIN and NagsROM do not seem to be continued, but the previous ROM by them are also excellent and much newer than NFSFAN's "Latest" ROM. I personally like both Miller's ROM and B-ROM, they both have lots of goodies already cooked in, and they used the previous style M2D without the weather bug and flipping clocks. ROMs from egzthunder1 and Barogi44 are also rock solid, stable, fast and have great performance. I flashed all the them recently, and really impressed with the quality of each single one of these ROMs.

Out of all the above ROMs I flashed and tested, NONE of them have the wired mic issue, and they are the latest Microsoft builds with all the newest features. :cool:

I tried Android, the lack of Exchange Server synchronization and BTPAN ICS is a showstopper for me. We may not like WM 7, but the continued WM 6.5 development still makes my Vogue like a new phone every single week with all the new ROMs.

Time to move on, friends, we got TONS of choices. :eek:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] inertone:
never!!...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dxiong:
???:confused::confused::confused:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] incubus26jc:
he is probably saying never to going back to windows mobile. Which is what i would say too. Not even close
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dxiong:
Well, we heard you, thanks! and glad you enjoy it. :D

I will never rush to Android, at least not for now. To me, the current Android build for Vogue is still no comparison to Window Mobile, after I used Android for a while, I actually hated it. Sorry, that's just my opinion. :eek:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
To each their own, but this is probably not the right thread to be discussing likes and dislikes about Android ;)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jmitr:
When loading a ROM from the SD card only certain size SD cards are supported (I believe the limit is 2GB). Most use the 512MB card that came with the phone for this purpose......it isn't good for much else!!!

To be clear, NFSFAN's ROM (this is his thread) supports 16GB SD cards, but you can't load the ROM from a card that size (card is not supported until the ROM is loaded if that makes sense......chicken before the egg sort of thing).

Happy flashing,
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2Sancho:
Why just leave without saying anything.

This is whats on my mind. Why NFSfan Left without saying how he was feeling about developing more roms for the vogue. It will be cool if he posted the kitchen for the his ROM so somebody will take over or just finish the two issues, no updates just fix the issues. IMO

(mic issue and shorter battery life than v16)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] crobs808:
Hmm, in my opinion he does not "owe" us anything. He does not "owe" us an explanation why he left. He has already done so much for the community, and I still use his WM6.5 v1.15 when I flash between Android ROMs, to get my Verizon provisioning back, and update via *228 (since you cannot do that once on Android on the Touch.

At any rate, if NFSFAN is reading this - thanks for everything you have done for the community - you "owe" us nothing :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
As much as we would all like to have their tools and knowledge, the chefs are free to do with their stuff what they please. Many of them spend countless hours trying to cook tweaks into the rom (so that we won't have to reg edit afterwards). Crobs is right on the money, NFS does not owe anything to the Vogue community. If anything, we probably owe him something...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mrono:
I agree, he put so much time and effort into this and all we did was complain that there was an issue and wait till be released again :P

I love android, and i could go back to WinMo but i'd prefer not to, I really like the looks of the new winmo releases though so i may try one for a bit, which is nice with android because i can backup my data and when i'm ready to go back i simply reinstall the system data and set the data to my SD card and i'm back where i was...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] 2Sancho:
Owes?????????

I read 4 times my comment and I never said that he owed us or the vogue commuity anything.

I just was saying why he left without saying a word, and that it would be cool if he finished what he started. Im pretty sure he will get some money at least from my part. just look at SPB 3.5 i liked it so much that i paid 29 bucks. I know being a chef is not an easy job but thats what he chosed to be. if he released betas for free and final versions (no bugs) for a fee trough paypal. everybody will be a happier voguer. He gets money we get something that can enjoy 100%.

Just my opinion. i dont want to start a new tread about this.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] walla:
Still using this ROM. I will try using Android, again, sometime in future and see how it goes.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] hexto:
Why are people still sucking up to him? Everyone knows he's a narcissist and as much as he may have contributed to our community he didn't have the decency to let his loyal following know he was done developing for this phone.

He never once shared any of his knowledge with any other dev and when he quit he didn't release he kitchen (free or otherwise) so others could still continue developing from where he left off. He had the nerve to require people to pay him before releasing one of his last updates then couldn't man up and say he was done developing when he moved on.

I agree that he doesn't owe anyone anything but any man/half way decent person would have had the common decency to not keep people waiting for an update indefinitely.

Like it or not that's just my opinion
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
A lot of chefs in this site (as well as others) are rather secretive about the way in which they develop their stuff. Love it or hate it, he developed it in his free time and if he felt that it was time to move on or not, it was entirely up to him. I do agree that he maybe should have said something in his first post (in this thread) about discontinuing development for this device (like vin and Nag have done)... but at this point, I think this issue should be dropped. There is no point arguing about it anymore.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] hexto:
I agree. Its just annoying that people are still whining about it like there are no other ROMs to choose from. Even when this ROM was being updated there were others that were just as good or better and now that its not being updated there is no reason to not try something else instead of coming here and whining about issues that wont be resolved or about the lack up updates. People just need to move on to another ROM or platform.

This used to be the best thread out there cause the people here are super knowledgeable but now its full of nonesense.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4thought:
No disrespect to the WM ROM developers, but Android is where its at. I've been playing with Myn's Donut on my SD card (so I can go back & forth) for a few weeks now, and I have all the capability I had with my WM ROM and then some. I'm ready to remove WM now. And the Android apps just keep coming. You should all give it a shot if you haven't already.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] AV8ing:
Does anybody have a link or can send me a V11 ROM? The earliest I can locate is V13. Thanks all.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
It might be in PPCGeeks as well. I don't believe I have it, but I will post it if I find it.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] AV8ing:
Thanks much egzthunder1. I look around PPCGeeks as well.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] antinerd:
Good to here that Android on the Vogue has evolved so far. Has bluetooth AVRCP on with Myn's Donut been fixed yet? If not, for me at lease, Vogue Android is not ready for prime-time.

Good ol' WinMo may still have a little life yet. To bad so many Vogue chefs are jumping ship.

Sure, there are newer and more powerful devices out there, but as a bellmobility user, the Unlimited Mobile Browser on the Vogue provides the only Canadian data All-You-Can-Eat-Buffet. And at a ludicrously cheap $7 per month. No one, ANYWHERE can even come close to that deal.

And with the tether-safe hack, this phone also provides an almost-free, available anywhere, internet connection (free Rocket Stick / Turbo Stick anyone?). It is the perfect bluetooth companion for any netbook.

Vogue forever! (or until I can't score replacements on craigslist)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dxiong:
Well said about the cheapest unlimited data plan from Bell Mobility. I am going to stick to my Vogue for the following years for sure, especially my grandfathered corporate plan had unlimited web browser included for free. :eek:

I already purchased backup Vogue from Craigslist months ago in case my current one is broken or lost.

This unlimited data plan with the Bluetooch ICS made WM my only choice (unless there is workaround in Android to do the same thing) for free Internet for my laptops and iPad while traveling anywhere in Canada. :cool:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dsmturbo:
I am on Bell with Vogue as well, and thinking of flashing to a custom rom, NFS or Miller or? I am a real newbie.

What do you mean when you say 'Almost free internet, Rocket stick/turbo stick' and the tether-safe hack?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Not really sure about the Turbo or Rocket stick, but the tether safe hack is basically a hack that prevents you from getting charged for tethering (from what I understand).
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] nubie:
hi,

here is a link to the directory to NFSFAN's Vogue 6.5 development. it has all the roms from v13 on up... and stuff like oem cabs and patches.

http://74.53.45.2/~evadmin/nfsfan/Public%20Releases/Vogue%206.5/

Hope this helps!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quadman:
I want to completely wipe out my win 6.5 and use droid. My question is if i do will my gps work? I had to send my phone back (warranty) and when i got the new one it came locked already with 3.78 radio. :o( I did the fix but gps doesn't work. I f i install complete droid will my gps work? Thx
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] baileyedition:
sorry, noob cant get data to work

So im going buggy here trying figure out with confidence what i need to do to get the data working. I have a sprint touch (vogue) I have successfully unlocked it and installed nfsfans custom wm6.5, as well as installing the weather fix, sprint provisions and sprint mms cabs. Still no data. Ive been doing my best to search and did find a thread talking about using the epst for mln number.

Anyway ive been at this all day just thought someone might be able to point me in the right direction. Thank you so much not just for any help but for the rom, you rock dude.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Radio 3.78 is a GPS radio already...

Depending on the Android build that you are planning on installing. Myn's works if I am not mistaken, but I am not too sure about the others (incubus or mssmison).

good luck...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
What is a mln number? :confused:

More than likely, your internet parameters are not set. You need to go to EPST and check under M.IP Default profile that your username and password are properly set. Also, go into connections are ensure that the connection created for Sprint has the correct info as well. Good luck!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] baileyedition:
Im sure this is redundant and annoying

I have no idea what an MLN number is exactly, Im assuming its another identification number related to the data connection. I found a thread talking about it, although i could be mixing up the lingo. Thank you so much for quick response, I really appreciate it. I could sit and read through the thousands of pages but the wife isnt near as patient.

As far as the EPST, Im going into file explorer and scrolling down to EPST and it just tries to open and closes instantly. I know this was discussed in a previous post and the solution was to reboot and try again. I have done this again and again and still cannot get the epst to do anything....am i missing something? should i be accessing this differently.

I'll be checking and re-checking the communications as you suggested. Im sure someone else has sprint and has run into this right? lol.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quadman:
I just redid my phone to get my gps to work. I followed the directions and downgraded my radio and i'm now up to vw winmo 6.1 radio3.77 stock rom. I didn't let customization run. I was wondering if I could install Droid from this point and my gps will work?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] antinerd:
Mobile internet you DON'T have to pay for with a Bellmobility vogue.

They are mobile internet solutions you plug into a laptop or netbook, requiring a subscription with a cellular provider, separate from an existing cellular phone plan you may already have.

Rogers rocket stick

http://your.rogers.com/Business/pro.../pccards.asp?&cm_mmc=grdrt-_-all-_-en-_-stick

Bell turbo stick

http://mobilebusiness.bell.ca/en/Common/Rate-plans/Turbo-cards-and-sticks-plans_Page_186.aspx
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] 4thought:
I'm using Myn's warm donut build on my Bell vogue and GPS works.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dsmturbo:
Thanks Antinerd. Now, as the Bell Vogue doesn't require a data plan, would they be able to tell if you are tethering or using a stick to access internet and then charge you extra?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] antinerd:
I've been tethering my Bell vogue to laptops for well over a year, pulled down gigs of data and never been charged more than the $7 mobile browser fee.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Quadman:
I just installed NFSFANS last rom v1.00. Do i install the agps cab or do i need to run QPST in order to get my gps working? Thx
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] nubie:
Mines worked right outta the box!

just run google maps and menu> use GPS.

My Tomtom worked right outta the box
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dsmturbo:
Thanks for reply, good to know. Do most of these custom roms have tethering built in?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] akyboy:
back to this rom again!

after testing all new ones (at the time) for week or two each, for almost last 6 months i am back to NFSFAN rom!

My opinion is its still the best, stableST, and FASTEst rom.

Thnx!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] antinerd:
I couldn't say...I asked a few other ROM chefs if their ROMs the tether-safe, but no one could tell me for sure. So, if you want to make sure you don't get hit with any additional charges, Nfsfan's roms (out-of-date as they may now be) are still the best for tethering.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jewelara:
communications error [262]

I can't get it to work. My phone shows the colored stripes then goes gray with a white progress bar at 0% then I get a Update error [262]. What am I doing wrong and how do I fix it?:confused:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
What OS are you using in your PC?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You did not install the Provisioning cabs for Sprint. That is why your EPST is not working.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Never really been able to use GPS on the Android Vogue (although it is reported to work) simply because, my gapps don't connect to the internet as the MetroPCS data services block them (afaik). Therefore, I cannot start Google Maps.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Yes...

10char
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Not really. NFS has everything pre-installed in it. Just make sure that whatever GPS program you are using is configured to use COM4 and a baud rate of 4800, else it will never work.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ghaasemi:
TouchFlo won't run!

I installed the NFSFAN's ROM on my HTC touch but the TouchFlo does not launch. Everytime, it says: "Tap here to launch the TouchFlu" and then "Launching TouchFlu..." but goes back to "Tap here to launch the TouchFlu"!

Anybody has any solution?

cheers
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Uninstall the CDMA home weather fix. Select weather in the weather tab, update it, and then install the cdma home weather fix.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] ghaasemi:
Thanks!

Thanks! it was the solution!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Glad it worked out :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] pokumon:
Is there a fix for the 6.5 ROM expiring? Mine expired, and I had to revert back to 6.1 and it sucks...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] bobzero:
Which version of the ROM were you using?

v17? aka 1.00 ?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
That is really strange. This rom does have the TimeBomb fix cooked in already... Try flashing the latest in here and see what happens.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] wizziko:
is the ROM expiring after a certain time of being cooked on your phone or is it just a date that they all expired? I've been using the same NFSFAN ROM (up until recently) for months and it never expired on me
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
If I am not mistaken, it is a "trial period". I don't believe that it is a certain date... then again, I could be wrong :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerdog:
I know this is an old phone - but I used to have one and was helping a buddy load his, and since I used NFSFAN's a LOT when I had my Touch I decided to use this one. It refuses to initiate the flash - gets to the bootloader and then the % bar - but doesn't go any further and then gives the Update Error #262.

I did a hard reset and then turned off the Advanced USB connectivity - but still no dice...

Ideas?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dsmturbo:
Jerdog, I am having the same issues with mine, egzthunder1 suggested trying different USB port and cable, and I'll try and put mine in bootloader mode prior to running RUU.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerdog:
What are the steps for bootloader? I will try another computer as well.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] jerdog:
yeah - another computer didn't help. really weird....

Oh... I am so far removed from doing this (I now have an Android device) that I forgot I had to unlock it. =) Thanks!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
To put the device in bootloader, you have to stick the stylus in the reset pin hole while holding power+camera.

I had a similar issue with a Verizon Vogue that I recently got. I changed the USB port and cable and the process went smooth as butter. Alternatively, you can flash from SD....

You have to unlock first though.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikurej95:
Is it all right if i use the verizon mms cab on other roms?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Perfectly fine. Just make sure that you install the dcd carrier cab first :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikurej95:
gotcha, thanks for the reply :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asianguy30:
try other new roms. This rom has not been updated for a while.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mikurej95:
but it does say its stable. and i don't want my phone crashing on me all the time.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
Almost every build being built now by all the cooks are just as stable as this.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] PhoenixTJ:
Although thats true, All the other roms I tried won't let me install certain programs which install and run fine on this rom.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
Like which ones? :confused:

We are not pushing, but this actually revealed something interesting. Which are the programs that you cannot install in the other roms?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Lmiller1708:
Man I knew I forgot to add something on my Threads... :cool:

Yes, Please let us know which ones so we can

ALL

Work Together

like we have been doing to get this issue resolved.

Thanks.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] antinerd:
WeatherEye Windows Mobile

I used the WeatherEye Windows Mobile app ( http://www.theweathernetwork.com/mobile/weathereyewmobile ) daily on Nfsfan's rom, but if was unable to pull any weather data on Vin's rom (although bluetooth avcrp work great on Vin's rom, which still remains broken in Nfsfan's rom - so no disrespect to Vin's skillz). But I gave Barogi44's new 6.5.5 rom a spin...and all I can say is WOW! Every app I throw at Barogi44's rom runs like a champ, including the WeatherEye Windows Mobile app, AND bluetooth avcrp! Cant wait to see what Barogi44 gives us next.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
:D Thanks for the kind words!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] hhp_211:
looks good from the website - I'm going to give it a spin...

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[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] egzthunder1:
You are famous now...

want me to change your username to NFSFAN2? :D
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Barogi44:
Hahaha! :) Im not that famous.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dsmturbo:
I think you both are Famous now:)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] noogies:
wow, this sucks. I was at a friends cottage last month, and I tethered my laptop using BT PAN for the first time since the NFSFAN 6.5 v1.0 rom was released back in Oct 2008, and got a whopping $232 data charge on my phone bill.

I guess the 6.5 version doesn't support free tethering like the 6.0 versions of nfsfan's roms did.

This truly is a sad day for me. I've been pretty satisfied with the stability of my phone. Sad to see that the occasional emergency tethering will now cost me. :(