yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
Maybe one of the thread View Modes could be a solution.

IMO, this was solved a longtime ago with newgroups where everything is sub-threaded so you can easily ignore any of the st0pid side-threads because st0pid posters didn't bother quoting and linking into the relevant sub-thread.

Looks like vBulletin almost supports sub-threading with the Threaded view, but the UI is still broken. Slashcode is much better and uses poster reputation and self-moderation, but not many sites use it. This post will just get buried just like the rest anyways.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mdelleman:
Great Work!

This is unreal!

I am floored by how smooth this is. I actually prefer this to Manilla 2D. If it wasn't for the power bug it would be used daily. Great work on this and look forward to more releases and bug fixes.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] guruguntaal69:
at&t tilt won't turn off or goes to standby mode

guys i have tried few different things to get my phone to standby mode ever since i've installed TF3D but for some reason i won't do it. Also, got the album & music working please reply soon.

It is very smooth. i like to keep this for ever if it works right i know there are few bugs that need to be tweak. please help
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] huggy_72:
nooo, i think this is a provocation!!! is impossible too much "first people post"

HERE!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AndyInParadise:
Wow, I was blown away when I saw that it has been tested on an Imate Ultimate 8502.

I thought no one cared about us.

I have had my 8502 for months and it is the best unit I have had and I have had heaps.

Pretty excited to try this out.

Found it to work really well but not very stable, heaps of soft resets.

As you said it is not usable as an everyday GUI, but close.

Waiting patiently for more development.

Need any testing on an 8502, just let me know.

(What made you try it on an 8502 anyway?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
I absoulutly agree if anything anyones question that starts with does this.... Just absolutly ignore them its ashame to lose a great development thread over idiots that dont read.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Arni06:
Same problem on my Polaris. But after many tries, I think there is a problem with the translation of the coordinates because in some screen, if I click at the bottom then the top item is selected...

Is it not a problem of migration from VGA to QVGA?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
As much as I like newsgroups, I heartily disagree about Slashcode (at least the way they have it running on /.)... I find it completely unusable for serious conversation / discussion, as half the people are still morons and that a agreeing and/or disagreeing with a post warrants a +1 or -1. Unless you think we can edumacate the masses? :)

Are you seeing this only in specific screens? It seems for some people the coordinate translation is not working at all (no clue why, yet, seems to depend on ROM). I've not seen anybody describe it works sometimes and sometimes not, though.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
@Arni06 the M-amine FRA is the probleme :( lepsyfou an me had same probleme with this version Neos2007 with NLD version hadn't any problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bedelaitre:
Argh ! **** ! I'm using M.AMINE ROM ... What's the best ROM to use Manila 3D (I'm french) ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The Solutor:
I agree, the 8502 is by far the best smartphone lying around.

I ask myself what can it be if some cook procedure was available...

But seem that the best developers have simply skipped this phone.

Simply it has the same chipset and the same resolutions as the htc toys where TF3d runs, so I decided to give it a try.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SkywalkerPD:
The first page says fourth release (27-10-08)

But when I read on, I only find a download for release 11 (third release)

Am I missing something?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
you are missing something. and you fail the test. you clearly havent read the whole first post. TEH FAIL
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] binky11:
Good one ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NoMoNada:
Date Format

Dear sir,

I am testing the Manilla 3D and have read a lot of this thread used the thread search with many different words(lets be honest it is just a veeeeeery loooong thread to read).

I am looking for a way to change the date format to my personal format, I have found this in the Manillla 2D which was a simple registry setting.

So any info would be greatly appreciated!

By the way I think the Manilla 3D is TOTALLY HOT!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jensenaaby:
TEH FAIL?????
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
I'm already dreaming about this crappy:

"Help, my won't go in standby,

i can't pull of my device"

Standby doesn't work.

THIS IS DRIVER RELATED AND NOT SOLVED YET.

TF3D on -> no standby

TF3D off -> sTANDBY

AAAHHHH:

And the other error reprtings are answered anywhere around here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
:o

lalalal
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SkywalkerPD:
Thnx! You R right, I did miss the P.S. at the bottom ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Find the ps very useful :) great idea, for one time they maybe read all the post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] EnsconcE:
You are really, really failing. Have you heard about Google? Or what about reading? And searching? If so, please take some action on your own instead of creating useless posts. I have no intention to flame, i just to point out why you are failing this message board.

http://www.google.nl/search?q=teh+f...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] abdelamine:
htc himalaya

first i try to install M3D to my HTC Himalaya doesn't work

when i copy the Vincent 3d dll in my windows folders it work but slow

and white pictures

can someone get M3D work fast
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
FIRST POST
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jokove:
any chance for universal???

any chance for universal???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
when drivers are available. if not use the software drivers mentioned in the FIRST POST.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
Great Test!

djboo...great test of reading skills! While I wish there was an actual 4th release, I definitely appreciate your move here. Looking forward to the continued great work...I am really enjoying tf3d on my smartphone now!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
djboo, perhaps we should adjust the title to: "TF3D QVGA *** READ FIRST POST *** [4th release - 27-10-2008]" ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
This is not fair...never the less I did not read the entire fire post...

Maybe it should be adjusted a little bit with some "how to solve.."

just my 2 cents....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
why? youve just said you didnt read the entire first post. so even if i put in 'how to fix' it stuff, you arent going to read it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Retroactive:
4th rls

I'm just put out that there is no new release :(, I know, i know it is fun to f... with ppl. But i had false hope for a new rls just based on the thread title.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
the first post is now as noob friendly as i can bare to make it. it loves you a whole huggy bunch. seriously tho, is it clear enough? ive been fairly ratty over the whole first post thing, and i dont wanna come across as sour as...well...i have been.

oh and if u ask about white squares or power issues - its your DUTY to put the second option in the poll ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sarantos:
I have installed TF3D for 5-6 days now, and I can say it works perfectly.

I have resolved the power off issue with mtoday - i.e. switch to HTC Home profile and then power it off.

What I am still missing is how to make landscape work properly.

The program does have the landscape screen of Diamond-pro but it appears in portrait mode even when the keyboard opens!

I tried to use mbarvian's landscape, through a manila2d.mscr I found in this thread and it works, BUT TF3D's default landscape is still running below mbarvian's landscape and this results sometimes to crashes.

Can anyone help me with some script (?) - that would kill TF3D when I open the keyboard and run mbarvian's landscape ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] twisted:
hi there, try this method:

1. open the manila2d.mscr with notepad in windows pc or rename manila2d.mscr to manila2d.txt and open it with notepad.

2. rename TouchFLO to TouchFLO 3D in

If((IsRotated=1) AND (landFlag=0))
RegWriteDword("HKLM","\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\[B][color=blue]TouchFLO 3D[/color][/B]","Enabled","0")

and

ElseIf((IsRotated=0) AND (portFlag=0))
RegWriteDword("HKLM","\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\[B][color=blue]TouchFLO 3D[/color][/B]","Enabled","1")

3. save the file. (if you renamed it to manila2d.txt change it back to manila2d.mscr)

hope this helps.

regards

twisted
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
Okay, I'm out of this thread since it has become entirely useless and there's no forum solution. Let it collect the unwashed ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Lawmen23:
has anyone had any luck with TF3D on a Treo Pro?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NoMoNada:
Found the solution and it is a bit awkward.

There is a file in Windows\590ad244_manila

It has these lines(or not) then just add them and change the date format to your whishes.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
give it a go. if it works, tell us and we'll list it there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
this thread is no longer a dev thread - the dev thread has moved here:

http://htc.facewhore.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2&p=2#p2

if u wish to contribute then pm me. important stuffs will be copied here.

the forum is admin activation only. so seriously pm me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sarantos:
Thank you, twisted, for your help, I am trying it now and cross my fingers..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Wallpaper on all tabs

This is a mod created by mun_rus. Here are some SS's
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xenn:
nice...thanks 4 the download
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cazy:
Confused im a noob.

okay i downloaded OpenGL ES drivers

now where do i put it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lumiden:
My english is not great, so sorry if I make mistakes.

I have a HTC Touch Cruise. I installed the Touch Flo 3d and the drivers for polaris on HTC web page which are linked here.

It says "Iniciando Touch Flo 3D" (Starting Touch Flo 3d) and it stays there, I have a lot of free memory and don't know what to do...

Could you help me please?

Sorry if my problem has already been answered, but there are a hundred pages and I read a lot of them, but didn't find a solution
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
in reality, your question has kinda be answered, but so vaguely, youre right to ask - if its not opening, then it looks like the polaris drivers havent installed correctly. im not aware what this could be exactly as im kaiser owner, and drivers have always worked first time for me. my first suggestion would be to ensure you have winmo 6.1, and if so , try the htc-ca demos, see if they work as expected, also make sure uve installed the language packs if ur device isnt WWE
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
\windows if the software ones. they arent very good tho so expect lots of issues.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] herr der 4 ringe:
Hy again,

does nobody else have some probs with Kaiser like me?? I would be very thankful for an solution...(evrything else works fine and very smooth!)

greets Andy
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
This is not a skin thraed and stop quoting full post with image!!!

Found another device/rom which have the bottom bar scroll probleme like on M-amine 2.0 RTM for polaris: This is the rom KisS20.4 for KS20i.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
that skins awesomes. the way, yanno, you cant read any of the text. solves ALL the quality issues ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
What I was trying to say is that you can't expect that everyone should read the entire first post just by writing "4th realease"...

I'm reading this thread since it was called "hergilla"...

Anyway I appreciate that you start clean the first post.

Some things are obvious for you and many others because you're working on this for so long (Thank you for your work , btw) and I can imagine it's not so easy to keep updating...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Why can't you read the entire first post? Is it too hard for you? All is explained in there..it's not that hard to understand..maybe you weren't meant to learn in school..

btw this thread has never been called hergilla...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lumiden:
Oops. I have WM 6.0. I tried to update to 6.1, but in HTC.com y found only a french version. I guess that's my issue... Is it necessary to flash to update from 6.0 to 6.1? Sorry if it's OFF Topic.

Thanks a lot, you might 've saved me a lot of time.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
Did I say I CAN'T read it all?

What I was trying to say is that just by writing "new release" this could not mean reading an entire post searching (so did I): maybe I didn't explained as I liked.

I thought the hergilla project was one of the first and most developed in porting Manilla 3d: sorry if it is not correct.

BTW who are you to judge people's education?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
it seems so..

Your correct but god knows what happened..

im the guy telling you to read the first post and stop asking repeated questions!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
And hergilla was actually a different thread ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
It seems so? That means actually you can't read or misunderstood my words.

I actually DID NOT ASKED for anything, got it? You don't have to tell me nothing, cause I didn't asked you or to other anything because I spend time in reading! Maybe this is a little bit clearer.

Now, for example, how many post a new reader should read before finding the answer to a problem if it is not present in first post (i.e. Audio_manager error or CameraAlbum error...the solution to this is actually not present in first post ,but it was...)?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
Didn't it talk about manilla3d porting? and does it really matters in the latter discussion?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
I'm glad you spend some time on reading yet many of you seem too lazy to read.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scotchua:
The reality is that if a user can't find the answer the audio manager error, or camera album error, then they should NOT be using this software. It is not ready for use by people who cannot find answers for themselves. When the drivers are fixed and the software is complete, then users who need the information spoon fed to them can start to use it. This WAS a development thread, but all the people who don't know anything scared off the developers cause they couldn't use it to talk about how to fix things. Between each useful comment there are 20 redundant posts, and posts about the redundant posts. So now this thread is devolved into us discussing why the first post isn't more user friendly. If you have to ask, then just wait for the completed project. People forget this is XDA-Developers and view the site as their own personal tech support, and that's not what we are here for.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Hey mods,

i think we should move this post to off-topic,

cause it seems that here everyone is talking about this or that, but noone more is talking about the main subject manilla porting.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sarantos:
some of the people in the forum are unecessarily rude. Not all people can be specialists and developers, and when you post a thread of such a complicated subject that has reached to 100+ pages in a FORUM with a thousand members, it is clear that there will be questions and sometimes silly ones. Some things may be clear for someone right from the first post, but for others are not. I can understand that the developers may become upset with some questions, but what I see and can't believe is that other people - irelevant to the development - judge people because for some reason they may not be as "bright" as them.

Just remember that none was born with "the charisma", and what you all know, is because you were given the freedom to ask questions - often silly ones - in forums exactly like this one.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
/me takes his hat off to that man.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] acemanice:
allmost agree its became dead thread- last posts are about "you read - you dont and so..." just ignore stupid posts - dont react...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
that is true. but you have come into a development thread. on a development section. of a development forum. no matter what excuse you come up with for why youre here, before you state it, replace the word 'development' with 'paedeophile' and see if you still feel as innocent.

if the developers in the the developer thread on the developer section of the developer forum on the development site (you know the one with developers in the url) arent very helpful at times due to the fact that you have not read all the information that has already been posted - are you sure its the devs in the wrong - or are you just lost and in the wrong place?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
+1 djboo xda isn't a developer site anymore :( just an howto and skinning site too bad.

people jsut create an account to post their problems and that's all :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
We just can't make a person's life easier by doing their work for them. If you don't want to read or you want someone to do it for ya, don't expect someone do the job for you. It's time for you to stop wearing diapers and let the other person do something else other than wiping your ass because that's what it looks like. People come here to b*** and well sorry you expected people to come running to you with arms wide open agreeing with you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
Sorry but I don't agree with you : if this is a software not ready to use by everyone it should not be released to everyone but to Beta testers only.

But if you public release it there will be more possibilities to get a better software sooner, but you have to report updates and bugs and fixes more frequently for the new ones.

If you think that you or the developers should not answer questions, just don't do it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
There's not only black and white: grey exists too. I've seen thousand post with people asking what have been answered just above. But there's also people who can read, understand, start developing.

I think that the first post could be better and decrease silly questions (sure not stopping): that's it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
are you saying rather than admit youre wrong youd rather we took our work and discussion elsewhere?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shinji_73:
Sorry but really can't understand what I should be wrong about....

If you want that only developers can contribute to this kind discussions then it should be a closed section to developers only...it's so easy.

It seems reasonable to me. Is not what you're asking for?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
get a diamond rom, and extract all *_manila files, some you'll open directly (xml), others are qtc aka pictures, and the rest are mode9 and luac file types...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] radem205:
Could you give us one m9 compiled file so we can see what we can do?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jakub_w:
holy ****!!!!!!

PLEASE release this so other devs can fix the vga > qvga problems!!!

im sure u'll get all of the credit u deserve (aka all of it lol)

GOOD JOB MAN!! thats as smooth as butter!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xplode:
Nice progress, it looks it works quite well on polaris. Hope to see updates soon
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] radem205:
Does the compiled .m9 files looked like the attached file? (I mean the structure)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Girvo:
This is quite exciting! Look forward to seeing what you come up with! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] radem205:
Look at here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2602572&postcount=220

The m9 files are compiled LUA files (LUAC) which can be decompiled with LuaDec or LuaDC.

Edit: LuaDec can be find in the attached file!! Just open CommandPrompt and type "luadec.exe files.luac" (rename .m9 to .luac).

With LuaEdit (http://luaedit.luaforge.net/download.html) you can open .lua files.

I hope this works!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
i try ultraedit and notepad2 to open my files but i understand i haven't compiled files so...

lua isn't the languages psp member compil with ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
here is one...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] radem205:
See my post #110, maybe it will help
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
ive said it before - the manila files u need are plain text. not all of them are - but the ones that arent are not the xml files and thus you dont need them....

<Navigation>

<PageGroup Name="Root">

<!-- 'page' extension == Manila pages -->

<Page Order="0" Name="home.page" PackageName="HTC" Default="true" Title="[[IDS_HOMETITLE]]" >

<ComponentReference Name="page"	Mode9Path="HTC\FakeHome.mode9?testParam=1" Component="GizmoRoot" SmartComponent="true" />

<ComponentReference Name="icon_normal" Mode9Path="HTC\icons.mode9" Component="Home_Off" />

<ComponentReference Name="icon_selected" Mode9Path="HTC\icons.mode9" Component="Home_On" />

<ComponentReference Name="icon_preview" Mode9Path="HTC\icons.mode9" Component="Home_Preview" />

'decompiled' erm...with notepad.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dredd67:
-> pcarvalho

Good job mate. Too bad I'm sooo busy right now to help in any way, but keep it up !

I know you're good with xml since SPB MS2 skinning, but didn't knew for the rest ;)

-> To all

Let's avoid any fight here. It's a team work: We could thank djmoo for gathering infos and talented people and more, pcarvhalo for breaking the code, chainfire and cie for 3D drivers, herg for the beta thread etc.... No one would have done anything without xda's resources.

And don't forget that it's pointless to fight for the paternity of something that was developped by HTC, not you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kristoff_sz:
Fully agree.