yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vj4:
hey me again!! lol ok after installin the diamond qvga picture album everything about tf3d is faster and more responsive. still getting crash's when trying to use phone in general nothing i seem to be able to repeat on perpoise. and the lack off the power buttin sucks oh and the window button on my kaiser [bottom left] takes me to the tf clock home page insted of loading start menu. kinda frustrating.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jokove:
is anybody working on them?

is anybody working on them? i mean the universal drivers to enable touchflo 3D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Dunno just see post #1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
The rasteroid/turtle demo is only a test right? And even if it works on my device, it doesnt mean M3d should work ( I have a non-htc device :( )

-sosloe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
Just wait, The answer will come out. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
ive been told that the rasteroid drivers are better than vincent drivers - i havent tested/confirmed this - there is the possibility its a better driver but not compatable with TF3D yanno.

those who have it , why not try it with other apps like the kaiser test ones? see how u get on with them.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
The P3D team is going to look into the rasteroid driver to see if it's useful in any way. Same goes for the Imate's driver.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
i recommended rasteroid for the non HW people since they seem obsessed with running this despite it clearly being way beyond the capabilities of their phones :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whatsleft4her:
the vincent 3d drivers are very close if someone could just update them it would probly work. it comes up on my touch but it has white boxes over where the graphics and clock would be. but it works and not as slow as people say it would be.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eddyve:
Has anybody have an idea how much resources this (fantastic) application needs?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jaygriggs:
im coming up with 15 mb while tf3d is running. I have a kaiser running hyperdragon m2d. not much more than m2d really.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
I know non HW support device's limit. (so I am going to buy Touch Diamond)

I just want to see what is touchflo3d in real :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
iirc, the 9/8502 has the same drivers as the KS20 for the ahi2dati.dll and libgles_cm.dll.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
Is there any bennifit for our touches with installing the vincent drivers other then tf3d?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
That's why someone mentioned it worked out of the box... Makes sense.

I heard Rogro was working on that sleep fix by the way. He had some progress, but what he did i don't know. You should ask him. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
What does "some progress" mean?:p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
That he made the device go to sleep, but all 3D applications running at that time will crash.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
OK, thanks for the info.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Amedeus:
Where to put Vincent DLL's ...

Hi,

Can somebody please tell me where to install [copy] Vincent OpenGL DLL files on HTC device.

\windows, or \Windows\System... etc Please

[Vincent 3d dll.zip]

Thank you.:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wmvfan:
copy to \windows
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nuke1:
On a side note, would the Vincent drivers improve upon the graphics of an Elfin in general? Thanks in advance...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brunoisa10:
sorry for this question but this thread is really too long :

I have a trinity , I've tried to install M3D on it , eternal loop for starting Touchflo , do you have a magic CAB (or special thing to install) ?

or must I wait ? (I'm afraid of that)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Amedeus:
TF3D loop on HTC p3600

Yeah,

Same problem here...guess we have to wait for some 3D drivers for our Trinity's P3600 ...

cheers

Amedeus.:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Amedeus:
Tf3d P3600

Hi

Thanks for f/b...had already tried that but never ending loop.

Thanks anyway.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lixiaofei0:
Hi,

Can somebody please tell me whether and where to install drives files on lg ks20 device. i have install 3d in my device，but it run slow
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cruzzmz:
tried on an ipaq 614 ... i can get it to start but then all the graphics are only white squares :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dremanueleb:
tried on an MITAC MIO A701 ... i can get it to start but then all the graphics are only white squares
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
If you get to run touchflo 3d but the graphics came out white, it's because the drivers. You need a working driver
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
I asked the same question but in regards to the touch but im still waiting on a answer.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
I've repeated this many times.

You need a OpenGL driver that supports ATI texture compression otherwise you will never get around the white textures. Manila is specifically optimized for the ATI hardware.

This happens to be a proprietary format so only ATI drivers support ATI texture compression. It's the same result if you try to run your petro/gas engine with diesel fuel.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Corrykid:
For some reason this didn't work. Everything is gray and white - like the skin images aren't there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
please, for the love of my sanity, if it doesnt work, read the first post at least. i can partially understand if youre too pure bone lazy to read the rest of the posts, but the first post shouldnt take too much effort.

ill post this now so u are all clear:

manila breaks powering down - there is a temp fix involving running the manilatoggle app. bind it to a button - THERE IS NO FIX

software drivers make it look rubbish - thems the beans. either upgrade your phone, wait patiently for someone to make some drivers for your phone or write your own

this is a thread for the development and porting of the manila3d system and associated tweaks - this may involve discussion on the HTC CA drivers - but this is not a thread about writing drivers for your old unsupported phone

private messages demanding drivers will get you no where - we probably dont have the phone you have so unless uve got some spare and are willing to hand out the phones to the devs or are willing to donate enough for us to source our own, youre probably out of luck.

seriously. since we got the public releases this thread has turned into a calvilcade of people moaning about the same issues over and over and no serious can ensue in this environment. pls think AND READ before you post. its not hard. hell, do a search if you cant be arsed to read every post.

and if you are going to send me a private message, pls at least be civil, i dont respond well to badly written DEMANDS by users who dont know what the caps lock is for.

amen.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Corrykid:
You get defensive really quickly.

I read the first post, and installed the drivers and it still doesn't work.

I own a Sprint Mogul, and I'm not technically challenged either.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
KS20, POLARIS, NIKE, KAISER, Imate ultimate 8502

Exactly what part of "the mogul doesn't seem to be listed" did you not think of? It's like the 3rd line of the first post.

He does not get defensive really quick. Everything he has mentioned has at least been asked 100 times in this thread. And yes, people do PM us offensively.

This is a development thread!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mike21pr:
it doesnt say anywhere that the drivers work on the mogul, check the confirmed devices

i have a mogul also
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Corrykid:
I apologize than.

By the way, quick question - is the Touch Pro out for any carrier yet?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Umm isn't that what I just said before? We all know that. It even says it in the first post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co....G+S+HTC+Touch+Pro_HTC+Touch+Pro+Exact+Generic
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cbass:
Big flashing letters should be put in the first post:

If you see white boxes where you think things should be, your eyes are broken. Remove them with your favorite caliber.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] opont:
Hey all - I can't get it to work on my Nokia 6120, I onky get black squares...... I'M KIDDING !! :D

Come on guys, you rock - keep up the incredible work and just relax.

For the sanity of this thread, may I suggest that questions which have already been answered, are just ignored ?

btw : don't look too closely at my signature... I DO run TFLO3D, but as it is still a bit slow, I happen to stick to Manila 2D :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] huggy_72:
hey all i can't turn off the screen on my Commodore 64 ehehehehehe

Is too much frustrating read a "really" news every 40 pages,

but the work of this developers is too hard and a news come out or not every........we don't know

stop asking the impossible or the same think every time please.

this people make a big work for the other too

respect please and take it ease

it's an horrible English i know :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
Very Good metaphorical expression :)

1. To run Manila 3D, You need Open GL ES driver.

2. After install, It just play loop launch process, It mean your device doesn't have Open GL ES driver.

3. it works, but there are white images, driver has problem.

Confirmed devices on post 1 are sure. but others are not sure.

it is a summary.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Noooesss! Car analogies are NEVER right! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scotchua:
If you had taken any time to read the thread then you would completely understand why he has reacted the way he does.

ABSOLUTE RULE FOR ALL POSTERS

If you haven't read the thread, do NOT POST HERE! It is completely counter productive for members who are not contributing to the development to repeatedly list the same thing that everyone already knows isn't working.

If your'e not skilled enough to work around the problems yourself, then you shouldn't be playing with software that isn't complete. All the answers that are available have already been listed, you just need to look for them. If you don't have time to look, then don't install the software.

If you read through here, you will note that while i am a very frequent poster, i have nothing to add as far as help, so i have not posted in order to not waste everyone's time here. All the information i need, can be easily obtained with minimal effort.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
yeah seriously man, it's getting really annoying when people don't read. We are not gonna make your life easier, you are..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] alistairweston2007:
Im currently testing the TF3D beta, it works quite well on my orbit 2, bit slow but it at testing stage, i would however like to know when it gonna be able to use it as we do manilla 2d because this is amazing credit to creator of it, but it would be nice to have this as a day to day usage rather then testing

i do have a diamond myself and the isnt much different as far as i can see with the layout of this, as you would of guessed it runs smother and faster on the diamond

i have also tried porting from the diamond to the orbit 2 but no luck so far, if i get results ill post them here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
djboo and Chainfire,

I have a suggestion. Can the thread be locked so that only the people working on the project can make new posts? I guess one of you would have to request this from the mods and make a list of who has made a serious contribution to the project. And if there is someone out there with a revolutionary idea that might actually solve something, they should send either of you a pm to give them authorization to post in the thread (at your discretion of course).

Honestly, I don't even think if this is possible, but I guess it is the most viable solution so that this doesn't become another M2D thread...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Inmortal:
post less? not to be rude or anything but it doesn't make any sense to what you just said..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vj4:
Hey guys noticed something on my kaiser when i ran htc home i pressed power and screen went dark then after keylocking it went off. and same happens with tf3d i key lock, press power screen go's dark then after a few sec's go's off then comes back on and everything has crashed. is this tf3d trying to sleep or something else im running?(cant see what else it could be not running any other locking programs) seemed strange thought i'd let u know oh btw im using the standard window key lock.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
dont you know how to read? You can't turn off the phone while TF 3D is running on your phone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
you win the 'i made myself look like a spaz before anyone else did' award. u might wanna look back a page or so. or just the first post. itll save embaressment in future. this advice carries across to most threads. and forums infact.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Internet-Dummies-John-R-Levine/dp/0764589962
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] psicobra@hotmail.com:
ok guys this thread seems to be getting a little confused there i that many updates and patches some required some not is there any chance of a new list i.e you need this this this and this and install them in this order? thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The Solutor:
Just a poor quality video of Manila3d running on Ultimate 8502.

Sorry but in this moment the only camcoder I have handy is the samsung i780 (pretty poor on imaging side).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CxiGLCg9Cs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] unun281292:
I have a screen alightment issue after installed this cab

just the TF3D part have this problem, the original taskbar and the icons was normal
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aeratos:
ks20 no need any driver right?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
Correct. You guys and the iMates got native ogles drivers.

Only the HTC msm72xx "gen1" devices (Kaiser/Polaris/Nike/Vogue/Mogul/...) need drivers.

HTC "gen2", Diamond/Raphael/Xperia/TouchHD/etc... got native drivers.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aeratos:
thx for answer bro, ks20 really works and fast? beacuse people say slow,but meaby noobs :P And what dll file i need,vicent? or 6582c9b1_manila.Beacuse my phone is old i dont really know.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thenext1:
You should pack the data files into some archive, or else my phone hangs when installing or uninstalling it.

Other than that, it starts on my motorola Q9h, but my screen is landscape and I can't see all of it. Also, keys are messed up coz the Q9h is a smartphone.

Textures are also not loaded because I read somewhere they are qualcomm texture compressed. My moto has a PowerVR based hardware accelerator and I gues it's not compatible with QTC (only PVRTC). I see on-the-fly generated textures, though (like some text items), and I can see moving quads when scrolling messages.

If only we had the sources to this one ... :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
If your phone is old with only 64mb, don't even bother installing tf3d..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aeratos:
64MB means old?>ok..... i have ks20 256rom 128 ram need to know tf3d run fast.First poste say working devices ks20.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
@aeratos Make a video to show us how fast it is ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jtoyz2:
it seem that production has slowed down quite a bit...are we waiting for htcclassaction guys to update the driver? thanks by the way for the driver...i notice that running 3d test will cause the same problem as M3D...it would not exit out and it would dim but not turn device off...anyways good jobs guys waiting for the day this can come true
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
ks20 will work fine
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aeratos:
thx :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] szmatti:
yes on the Ks20 it work very fast
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CRACING:
HTC WizaRD

Hello,

Will Manilla 3d work on htc wizard?????

Plz relpy

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scotchua:
is the wizard one of the devices list? If not then how about you just assume the answer is NO?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CRACING:
Hi,

Where is devices list?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
just read the first post!!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scotchua:
3rd line of the 1st Post!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CRACING:
Thanks Guys

I simply asked where manila 3d will work on my HTC Wizard.:o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] scotchua:
The rules here are very simple READ, SEARCH, and THEN post. That's why we directed you to the first post. Let me highlight the information taken from the beginning of the first post that is relevant to your questions.

I'm pretty sure the KS20, Polaris, Nike, Kaiser & 8502 are NOT the wizard, and as such it is safe to assume it has not been running on the wizard yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
Is this Disneyland where if you wish it, then it's so? No effort required!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
never will..at least there is manila 2d :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chevy454:
anyone have a cab. to toggle m3d?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bun_0806:
hey..i have try this on my ks20

and the animation is smooth

but there is a problem..

the menu bar at the bottom is not work .

also...the touch action is not match to those button...

let solve this problem..thx

sorry for my poor eng because i come from h.k:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] alejandro88:
Does This Works On The Htc Mogul
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
you have got to be kidding. READ THE FIRST POST for god's sake
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cbass:
Seriously? Cancel your internet subscription, you're not welcome on it anymore.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] B18DelSolT:
ROFL, cmon cut him some slack. seems like he can barly speak right, how would he know the diff
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jyot:
hi..can u please help me this

as am new to PDA hacking

I have a GENE P3400i plzz tell me how to install on it:):):)

Thnx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
since your new..why dont you take your time and read the damn thread.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jyot:
i cant find drivers for my phone bro..help me

thnx:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jyot:
plzz help me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Inmortal:
it doesnt work on your phone so can u plz stop asking
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shruff:
Should work perfectly, go right ahead and install! :rolleyes:

My goodness!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lixiaofei0:
i have the problem too
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mig25:
Does This Works My Htc TC with official WM 6.1. I install the 3D driver and works fine, but not 3DTF, error to find music, photo album, (message err: not signed app) and power switch not more works.

Any idea?

Thx.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] variosteph:
ok, i´m really nice now:

READ THE FIRST POST!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
That's it. I'm going to ask this thread to be locked, as apparently half of XDA is not bright enough to read the first post.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jlavoie:
polaris

can i use this on my snowmobile? it's a polaris.

Thats a shame this thread is going to be locked because people are to lazy to read. not only would it help the person understand how it all works a little better but would also stop me from having to read page after page of questions i know the answers to form reading and searching. too bad.

Thanks to all that have given their all for the development of this program.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
Good call, it can be open again after there is some new progress in this, but until then, its good idea.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Yeah that's a good idea
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
Not to be rude or anything but I suggested this a few days ago.

But you are right, though. This has become ridiculous. Over the last couple of days it seems that we are being bombarded by spam from noobs (and not so noobs as well. Seriously, I have seen Senoir Members asking for questions already answered a few times).

Just do as I suggested. Lock the thread, so that only true contributors are able to post. Lets face it... this thread is already 1106 posts long (including this one)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Problem is, AFAIK, this forum software doesn't support 'excepting' a number of people to be allowed to post in a thread. Though it may be possible, even if the thread is locked, to let djboo (thread 'owner') post, then again, not completely sure about that either.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
He can't, he has to be a moderator
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] w04g005:
hey guys, i think it's a good idea to close the thread. The last 100 posts are only there because the people are so lazy and stupid. But if you close this thread the peope will OPEN NEW Threads like "Does Manila 3d work on my HTC ...". That wouldn't be better.

:-(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cbass:
I have an idea. Invite contributors, cooks, and testers to an off-site forum, let this thread run rampant, and when updates are developed/released, drop the files here.

I would hate to see a breakdown in the sharing of the developement process, and people who are trying to provide a fix to a problem get miffed, due to some seriously inept posters.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
That is what I thought. However, one thing that could be done (and I have seen this in other forums) would be to post the first post at the beginning of each page (kinda like a sticky). This way at least a few people might actually read before posting (either that or lets make you and djboo mods.... I'm up for it ;) )

Maybe sharing thread ownership (if possible)...