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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
I would agree that we are not comparing apples to apples but I do think that different people have different priorities when it comes to their device.

I am just trying to compare the two for people specific interests. ex. camera

The camera on the Kaiser is a higher resolution but very laggy and slow where as the Treo is smaller res but MUCH faster. The plastic cover on the Kaiser can distort images where as the treo has a glass cover. Things like that.

I am not trying to say what device is better but simply posting the results and letting everyone decide for themselves.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dtag:
Thanks a lot lewcamino...Looks like Palm is bringing sexy back...Too bad HTC is able to do a better job when the phone is not branded as theirs...:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vw_krazy:
Thanks! Looks like i'll be getting a treo pro... id get a Touch HD but I HATE touch screen keyboards. Anyways thanks again lewcamino!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Hate to buy Palm again, but sounds like real transflective screen, Palm finally bringing PalmOS 320px width to WinMob, no driver issues, sexy design, and lots less $$$ wins over any HTC branded.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
Happy to help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] webedc:
Can you try testing GPS with commercial GPS software such as Garmin Mobile XT?

Also, how's the battery life? (I know it's a broad question).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrpiggae:
It definitely seems like Palm has done a much better job with the Pro than the previous WM Palm devices. My brother in law has a Treo 700W and it's pretty much bad news all around...I use his phone and I understand why people hate WM phones.

This new Pro looks worth a try out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ndcart:
You know, I have both the Tilt and the Treo 750. I'm not sure why everyone is down on the Treo. I happen to think it works better than my Tilt, just doesn't have the GPS. With that said, if the Pro is an improvment over the 750, I may just have to entertain the idea of the Pro.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
I actually do use Garmin with the Treo Pro and it works very well. Faster drawing than the Tilt and the keys on the front make it more convenient to use. There is no waiting for the screen to rotate.

The battery is about the same as the Tilt from what I can tell. I am playing with the Pro all the time so it kinda skews the result.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CrozB:
Just ordered my Treo Pro... Anyone want to buy a tilt? ;-)

As for GPS, has anyone tested iGO 2006 or iGo 8 on the TREO Pro?

-D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
I had a rather typical day with the Treo Pro today. normal e-mail, txt, and phone usage (for me). I also spent about a half hour watching videos on myspace via skyfire.

I took it off the charger 15 hours ago. I am now at 47% battery. It is better than the Tilt and to be perfectly honest I never had a problem with the Tilts battery life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shawndh:
Wow. Seems like this thread has started a lot of controversy but I'm glad that you started it. I'm on the fence btwn the two devices because I can't find exactly what I want in the new devices coming out. I hate all the iphone all touch wannabe phones, I don't usually like slide out keyboards nor, have I cared for the small square screen cramped on a fully exposed querty phone. But this phone strikes me as different. I remember looking at this on coolsmartphone when it came out and I thought it was a great phone from what I saw. But I just want to verify a few things:

1) Is the screen actually bigger than the Tilts? I'm assuming it is since the resolution is 320X320 as opposed to 320X280 and I've seen specs of 3.2in

2) How is the keyboard compared to the Tilts? Typing one handing seems like it would be easier.

3) Does Voice Command work will over BT? (my brother had BT stack problems with 2 different units with his jawbone) I use a BT Parrot in my car and this would be a major deal breaker for me.

4) How is it to carry around compared to the Tilt?

5) Does it have any type of finger scrolling? I guess I could add this with a custom ROM or SPB Mobile Shell.

I'm considering this phone because it seems the screen is as wide as a regurlar 2.8 screen in landscape mode. I do a lot of Excel editing on my device and if I didn't have to go to landscape, that would be great.

This phone is reall a real sleeper to me. I hope they open a developement forum for it.

Oh yea. Have you had any problems with programs working with the 320X320 resolution?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
The video in the previous "camera" post shows the screens pretty much next to each other. The screens are apples and oranges since one is 320x320 (square QVGA) and the other is 320x240 (standard QVGA). However, the Tilt is bigger in terms of physical size. The Treo is bigger in terms of screen real estate. The bottom line is there is nothing lost in my opinion. Hope that helps.

I already answered this as well. It is not just easier, it is easy. See the previous post for my example. I would consider this next to impossible on the Tilt.

Good questions. Testing...

1. Jabra BT620s with JUST hands free enabled: Activate and use Voice Command with single press works as well as announcements.

2. Motorola H700: Activate and use Voice Command with single press works as well as announcements.

Works like it is suppose to. Nice.

How is what to carry around? :p Oops, I forgot that I had the Treo in my pocket ;) Seriously, SO much nicer than the "bricks" (Blue Angel, Wizard, Hermes, Kaiser)

Not installed by default. Mobile shell has some of that and it does work on this device.

Technically you have more space.

I have had a few not work. So far most have been resolved by getting the newer version. I am however stuck without my beloved Worm World Party... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
As a bonus for the Bluetooth question I also tested Bluetooth Sterio with the BT620s. It also works as expected. It is clearer and can get loader than my Tilt. It is "true" sterio not joint (listened to left/right MP3 test file). The device can be turned off and even locked if you wish while the music keeps playing and you can still controll it with the headset.

So it pretty much works like it is suppose to :D Not really use to that from HTC :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
Dude I have a TyTN 2 and it Kills The Treo pro I have Dual Cameras And a Powerfull PPC:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
TYTN 2 Kills Treo Pro

I love My HTC TyTN 2 Not Tilt By the way...lol I love My Dual Cameras No Bloatware 3mp camera Front camera is Vga cmos And yes my Tytn 2 is Moded up a Storm A few pics of my Tytn 2 Home screen Below.........

:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
Dude! Dual cameras are useless in the states. Define "powerfull".

As previously stated, I am NOT trying to tell everyone the Treo Pro is the BEST DEVICE EVER. I am just comparing features that are important for individuals when it comes to choosing a device.

Is the something specific you would like me to test on the Treo Pro against a Tilt? I also have access to a "real" Kaiser (dual camera) if you prefer?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
I bet that screen rotation time is great with all that running huh? When you open the keyboard, do you go get a cup of coffee? :D

Treo Pro (Drivers... INCLUDED)

Now lets stay ON TOPIC. Something for me to test? 3G race? WiFi race? Typing race? ANYTHING that can be scientifically compared with little or no variables other than the devices themselves.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
Ivisit

Let me School you Go To www.ivisit.com And you tell me how useless Dual cameras are in the us Buddy Also my Tytn 2 Laps The Treo pro As I am a Power user And Also Have A Treo 800 And it cant Compare to The power of my Moded And Hacked TyTN 2:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
TYTN 2

No my 12 years of coding and working for Htc has tought me how to Build a ppc That Runs And that Desktop picture Runs as Fast as Ever in Both Modes I have a Treo 800 And it Sucks in my Eyes its Back in The Box waiting to be Sold .....:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
That looks like a cool app. Wish it was out when I had my Hermes (Dual Cam)

I am sure that having been a member since January with 16 posts you are a pro.

I am also sure you know everything and whatever device you own is always the BEST DEVICE EVER.

I have had my Tilt for almost a year now (several ROMs) and I (like others) are tired of the issues and looking for another device.

I am glad you are happy with your Kaiser.

I assume there is nothing you want to see compared and you will stop posting in here now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
Really? Perhaps you should have helped them with the drivers? Power tool, I mean power user.

20 years of code wont fix lacking hardware.

Please post video of your device in use by a power user such as yourself. I (and others) would love to see how well you have it running.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
TYTN 2

This is not a Debate Im Here in Fun I Mean AS I Also own a Touch Diamond Im Just Saying I Don't have Any prolems With my TyTN 2 I have All the Video Drivers I need Everything Works And My Treo 800 I Dont Use Becuase For one Nothing Works With it Becuase of the Screen Display And its lack of power it Has Some kool Features But not Enough To make it a power ppc And if you Are a power user like me you can See That That's All Im Saying And I have over 15 Videos on Qik And Youtube Also im Admin At Smartphone Junkies So I do This Everyday And Know My Stuff..Man
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
I searched for "nucentury08" on the two sites you mentioned with no results. I am only interested in these videos if they show your Kaiser working as great as you say it is.

Please post links to these videos as soon as possible. It will help users who may want to keep their Kaiser and get it running as good as yours.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
TyTN 2

Hey I Will Theres So much people Dont know That there ppc can Do not just a Tilt are Treo 800 I mean I control my Tytn 2 with a Mini Bluetooth Mouse And Keyboard Some people Know Some people Don't know you can use a Mouse I Have over 40 gigs of ppc Software to Share With you Guys Check out VirtuMouse it puts a Real Mouse pointer on your Screen you control it With your Treo D-pad you might Like It Man ...lol I have Lots more to Share with people Thats how my Tytn 2 runs So Well Becuase of all the programing I do to it and All my ppc For That Matter it's all How you Program And What you know...As you will Find out the longer you Stick with Windows mobile..:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Quit trolling. Ever heard of periods? Hate to see your "code" if it's anything similiar to your posts.

May be you should actually do a Treo 850 comparison instead of continually referring to off-topic, older devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Photopuppet:
The biggest turn off for me with the Kaiser is the lack of transflective screen, which severely hampers the usability in sunlight.

If it had that, it'd be pretty fine for me then. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nucentury08:
Tytn 2

Like I Said Before I have a Treo 800 And it's not a power ppc And That's That I would never use it Again Ever.:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
800w is not a Palm Treo Pro. Please stay on topic.

I have an 800w as well. It is my work phone. I like the 800w as well but for different reasons.

Now, on with the show.

I was very pleasantly surprised to see Voice Command working properly on the Treo Pro. I have NEVER had all features working on any of my previous devices or any of the versions of Voice Command.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bittermormon:
Yeah I have a Palm Vx...and my tilt is way better, so the treo pro sux!! Fanbois FTW!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
Nice! LOL. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eatonjb:
I think the Tilt and the Palm are almost the same asfar as the internal hardware features

but the palm is nice.. it's thin, and the KB is easy enough for 1 hand operation..

but the larger screen the the tilt is really useful sometimes.. but the 320x320 screen is epic.

so i am tied, i like em both.. but the size is the winning factor.. it also seems a little quicker. and 6.1 built in , makes life easy,. less hacking to be done ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
I would agree with all of that statement. Some things you cant change with a cooked ROM. (Like the size of the device)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stevebrooks:
So do I have it right that the Treo Pro Does have the hardware acceleration enabled? The video in TCPMP is choppy or not choppy?

I just ordered one today and I am hoping that the Video playback is ok.

Can any one answer this for me? I am not really sure how to read those benchmarks. I currently have the Vogue and the video sucks even though the chipset and CPU are the same as the Treo Pro.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lewcamino:
Video playback is not choppy. I dialed up some video last week on a plane ride. Four hours of working perfectly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NuShrike:
Does the Treo Pro have OpenGL-ES support? I like to see some benchmarks from GLBenchmark for comparison. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stevebrooks:
Excellent!!!.. Thanks for the reply. What kind of apps are you running that are compatilbe? Sbp Mobile Shell? UL Launcher?.. Better yet.. Do you know if anyone has a working copy of HTC Home in 320x320?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tweaked:
I find the treo ugly. But I am sure it does what its supposed to. /Shrugs

This thread is odd.

:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] stevebrooks:
? What ? Amazing how 2 people can look at the same thing and think the exact opposite thing. :rolleyes::confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RubberDucky451:
assuming your talking about this sexy device?

It honestly looks worlds better then the kaiser.

Ahhh, I'm surprised no one has brought up the iPhone!

:[ sorry guys....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bnycastro:
I'm considering moving from the HTC Kaiser to the Treo Pro. Mainly because of the form factor...

To the OP can you test if mapking r12 [it is a gps application] displays correctly on 320x320?

Thanks for starting this thread :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] LIVEFRMNYC:
I have owned the Kaiser and the Treo 750, along with many other devices. And now own a Treo Pro.

I can say if your a current Kaiser or Treo 750 owner, the Treo Pro is an upgrade that is worth it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] P1Tater:
Well it's obvious that this thread has turned to rubbish. Thread closed.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
So I bought my phone directly from oneplus..got the phone yesterday .. all I did was enabled developer and like a fool chose to 'switch kernel' ( honestly I'm not even sure as I was still sleepy but thought it should be safe) and it started to download and asked me if I wanted to reboot .. so I did and got the little error message ...

Now using platform tools I can see the phone but no matter what I try I can't get out of that error ...

Any idea how to fix this without having to deal with customers service ...

Also how long before THE ROM will be released.. or I only need the boot.img

Thank you

P.s. don't do what I did
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
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[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] SMcC2:
I know dealing with tech support can be a pain, but when I've called 1+ they've always been very helpful. Some people haven't been so lucky, but I still recommend trying.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
I just did that and they asked me if I want a new phone ... btw if you get sent any files from the tech guys .. please post them here
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
Can this be considered my screw up and end up being charged for repairs ?
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] lzgmc:
As of right now, your only option is to get your device repaired under warranty by OnePlus, since there's no unbrick tools for this phone and the remote service guys don't have the firmware files, at least not yet. When this happened to me, I started a repair on OnePlus' website and said that the error happened after installing a system update. I sent it back to OP and got it back a week later at no extra charge.

I should probably make a PSA about this...
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] jilebi:
Did you get the same exact phone back in a repaired state, or did they send you a new phone? If the former, that means they have MSMDownload Tool available to them, but are not releasing it yet.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] lzgmc:
They sent me the same phone after repairing it. I'm not sure when the remote service guys will get their hands on the MSM tools for this phone.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
Do you mind sharing how long it took you to have your phone back as in how many days .. if in 🇺🇸 are they using express delivery ...

When I spoke with the customer service person , she said 2 days for repairs
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] lzgmc:
For me it took about a week from sending my device out to getting it back.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
So 7 days ago they said they will send me labels so I can send the phone back .. and haven't got the labels yet so today I asked them for a remote session but they declined because my laptop can't see the phone .. however FASTBOOT sees it and can create dump log etc ...
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] nache2001:
Phone must be connected

Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 mode not fastboot mode. Power off your phone press vol + - and connect to your pc. install drivers run msm tool​
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
Hey how long did it take for them to send you the labels .. I've waited 7 days before contacting them again today
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
Thanks I will install the USB drivers ... I am a little confused as fastboot sees the darn thing
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] lzgmc:
Only took them a day or two after starting a repair. I'm not sure why it's taking them so long for you. Did you start a repair or contact support?
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
Contact support ... I guess I'll wait two days and i will contact them again if I don't get it .. btw thanks for answering
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Dimitrimem:
I just got off the phone with tech support ( i am guessing in india) and just filled up the form for requesting remote service .. hopefully they will send me the link to download ..

After two attempts of them sending me shipping label that were unsuccessful ... lets see if this time will work ( its been 2 weeks with all the waste of time to get a shipping label that never came)
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] jilebi:
Good luck in unbricking your phone! Let us know how it goes.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Dimitrimem:
i will definitely upload the files once i get them .. based on my experience so far they forget to send .. so lets see .. i only spoke with them on monday ...

can anyone confirm how long it took to get the download link from the tech support guys after the initial conversation and after you filled the answers ?
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] lzgmc:
Usually one of two things will happen, depending on your support rep: After 3 or four days, they'll get back to you via the email you provided, or they completely forgot about your case. Ask the tech support guys again if they don't get back to you after 5 days.
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Dimitrimem:
thanks for sharing .. i thought it was just me .. but i guess its norm .. anyways .. i will contact them again tomorrow and ask again for the download link .. if i get it i will upload and share here .. hooping someone will the least so i can try and fix this thing
[OnePlus Nord N200 5G] Ethanvio:
I chose not to send my phone for free repair or replacement and it looks like MSMDownload it's not out for now ... I messed up even more 😪 if anyone got it for the fully paid variant from OP store here in US please share 🙏
[General Questions and Answers] umareta:
i need help i was trying to flash https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-prague-11-lineageos-18-1-for-huawei-p8-lite-2017.4275551/ to my p8 lite 2017 PRA-LX1 on bootloader . but i got this error while writing what should i do
[General Questions and Answers] :
My guess: Partition size of /system is too low.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] f1tzg3r4ld:
I have a SM-G965U1 S9+ unlocked phone purchased from Samsung. I recently downloaded an OTA update. I lost the ability to use the hotspot feature. It has always worked in the past. I downloaded Odin and the last version of the firmware that had full capability to use the hotspot feature. I tried installing and it failed.

Is there a way for me to rollback the latest update?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] spawnlives:
Depending on your binary ( Bootloader ) version you can download firmware and flash with odin.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] f1tzg3r4ld:
I tried flashing with odin using the XAA firmware. It failed every time.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] spawnlives:
you haven't mention what firmware name you are flashing and errors with odin.

XAA doesn't tell me much

see this link for bit ( bootloader ) version and how to tell what version you are on.

https://xdaforums.com/t/help-with-ota-update.4318733/post-85471255
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] f1tzg3r4ld:
My bootloader says RP SWREV: B9(2,2,2,9,2) K9 S9

I tried to flash Android 10 G965U1UEU7DTA5 and Android 9 G965U1UES7CSK2. I downloaded them from sammobile. I entered my model number G-965U1 and since I have an unlocked phone that already had the CSC code XAA for USA I chose the list of XAA firmware. I tried the closest date to when I got the phone and one other. Sorry if I don't know exactly what I am talking about. Looking at the versions I downloaded they look to be for bootloader version 7 not 9 is that right?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] spawnlives:
Your are on bit ( bootloader ) ver 9 you are trying flash firmware with ver 7. You can not downgrade firmware. You need to find ver 9 or higher ( 5th number/letter from right of firmware file name ) to be able to flash.

You could try a pc app called frija to download latest version. You have to search here on xda as i can't post links at the monemt.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] f1tzg3r4ld:
I have frija. I am downloading the version 9 firmware as we speak. I hope this gives me back the capability to use hotspot. Thank you for all your help. I will let you know how it goes once its downloaded.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] f1tzg3r4ld:
Well I was able to flash the new firmware. However my hotspot still does not work. Is there anything else I can try? I have another phone same model and its hotspot works fine but that one did not get the most recent OTA update.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] spawnlives:
Sorry my mistake. I forgot about your hotspot issue. Frija download latest firmware only.

If your on G965u1eu9fue4 ( problaby updated to G965u1es9fug2 ) the early version before your update is G965u1es9fud1.

Try downloading this and see if it works. You should be able to flash anything with a bit 9 firmware ( 5th number from right of firmware name )

From sammobile firmware for ATT

Latest Samsung Galaxy S9+ (SM-G965U1) - ATT firmware

All Samsung firmwares for Galaxy S9+ in USA (AT&T) with model code SM-G965U1. We offer free and fast download options. Check them out now.

www.sammobile.com
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] f1tzg3r4ld:
Success! I installed the oldest version of bin 9 firmware. Hotspot is now working again. Thank you for all your help spawnlives.