yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rocky200:
I waited it day and night, now I can not put??? Cigarettes have ended, I am killed!!!

I throw out Trinity!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mreaglejr:
:D there's no way to fix the lines? i can remake them in photoshop in a correct size if that helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shadowline:
:eek:

See what this is causing! its an epidemic! People want the Manila 3D soo bad they are overdosing on caffeine and cigs as they hit the refresh button all night. They arent sleeping, and in the most extreme cases make posts that nobody can understand! Don't you see what this is causing? Think of the people! :rolleyes:

lol

Anyway back on subject and seriousness, So far everything seems to be working mostly 100% except there is a slight problem with shutting off the phone, and random freezes/restarts. But another thing I noticed, was for some reason since installing the 3D version, the 2D version works (mostly) in landscape now. Quite odd...:cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] munnna73:
please help

how can i use it for my elfin rom any link about opengl deiver which work on elfin
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rocky200:
On Trinity it works for you?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lilhgarcia1:
Have anyone try this on the mogul yet.

If So tell me if it worked or messed up your phone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] beher:
hi

don't work on trinity.

we need update for trinity:D:D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] abdelamine:
not working in my HTC Himalaya

try to put the files in a new file ex: \windows\manilla

because it take a long time to install
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] blazingwolf:
You obviously haven't read this thread. It does not work on the Titan yet. Maybe never if the drivers don't get made to work with it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
not yet but will soon, at least the 256x256 ones...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
still has sleeping problem...i'm just playing with graphs...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
hehe, me too.. :)

I was wondering, Im using the manila editor, I wanna change that diamond background (not the hometheme, background in all tabs) what file is that, because I cant find it in M.Editor

cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
i to know photoshop...problem is how the scale was done...for now havent found a way to undo just that part...for now no dots an to be honest, i dont even miss them, its nice and clean :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lepsyfou:
I am eager to see it, good luck guys and thank you again :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
yeah loose the dots

mm, how you do that? just delete the files containing dots?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
Great port! It works very well. It's just a little bit slower than TF2D after adding all the modifications and speeding it up. I also still have sleeping problems. Can't turn off the screen without making it restart. Besides that my only complain would be the sluggishness :) It's overall very good.

Kraize
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] abusalza:
thanks for your great work!

report for some issues:

- couldn't into sleeping mode

- lanscape won't work

- start.exe running not hidden (it will be good if these can running hidden:D)

ohh... tested on kaiser

regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SaBo:
I'd recommend to replace the files by ones containing only transparency

Sascha
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
thx. I will give it a shot at a later time :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
All touchflo 3d files are located in windows folder right?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
@ pcarvalho

I'm experimenting with Diamond TF3D Config 0.6.7 and I'd like to know witch are the files associated with the theme part of M3d. I have to get a way to back them up because the restore function is causing M3d to fail loading.

Also, do you know how to edit .theme files for ppc? I'd like to see what I can do about this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
yes, cause if you delete a white space is drawn instead...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
rather than resize the images - why dont we write an app that does it for us? give it a TF3D skin and it converts the images for us. My reasoning is simply that chainfire has gone out of his way to ensure his port doesnt REQUIRE that we hack any files so any existing theme will work as well as any version of manila.exe. Theres many many themes already and we can already use them. lets not fix issues with the resized graphics - let chainfire do it properly, lets use the resized images as a speed boost and memory reduction.

this option i beleive gives us the greatest flexibility
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lepsyfou:
Itje rom with touchflo3D >> Touch-IT Diamond m3d (Manila3d beta test) :D

thks

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=435570
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
Here is a slighly better recording I did with my wifes SE

YOUTUBE
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
as far as i know and i hope i'm wrong there is no anti aliasing in opengl...so without cracking mode9 and luac files we will need to fix graphics cause the redution of for instance a line of 1 pixel high dot divided by 2 equals bad drawing, its there just so small you cant even see it...prove me wrong please :)

congrats to chainfire but this my friends is just the start of TF3D costumization...keep it up...

tomorrow my first correction cab ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bedaweed:
good job guys:)

wish it would work on vogue but i guess we will have to wait for that
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mreaglejr:
i ain't know too much about opengl, but this is what i found:

http://www.opengl.org/resources/code/samples/redbook/ ! so should be possible! :) noup?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
dont know all...use manila editor to see them...or just copy all *.manila files
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sean222:
Me too :( The problem is the video drivers right? SIGH :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] leoiden:
ok what is the catch?

it works with a nike which is the htc touch dual right? so why won,t it work with the vogue only difference is the sliding keyboard right

correct me if i am wrong guys?:confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
scarey...

Oki. if i screw this up, im sorry, never made a cab before.

This is ONLY for people already running tf3d and are willing to take a gamble.

ive made a minor tweak to some tf3d files based on something a member of the tf3d port team said (i wont mention any names but by the fact i wont mention his name he'll know who im refering too ;) )

turns out either im potty or this tweak makes a HUGE difference in speed.

before i post it in the first page, id like some brave souls to test it for me.

WARNING: You run this at your own risk. if it breaks you TF3D, Phone, Love life or hair i am totally responsible but taking no blame. and i aint getting on no plane.

http://www.facewhore.com/TF3D QVGA Port Team Infeon Friendly TF3d Images Beta 1.cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
ummm what kind of a link is that? :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
LOL!

Downloading now. Will let you know if it's your fault if my girlfriend leaves me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
right-click, save as.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
thanks :]

..............
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
10 second use feedback:

You're potty djboo. I've found this cab to make little/no difference at all in speed. Hmm. It could be because I already applied soo many tweaks to make it faster that all it did was make it reach the same speed I already made it reach T.T But anyways, this did nothing for me. It could be you messed up on the cab creation, but the install went perfectly. I'll try soft-reseting and see if that helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
*trembles in anticipation of user reports*
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
damn. i should have said u need to disable TF3D before u install it. possibly even disable tf3d, soft reset THEN install. if its installed correctly the numbers on the clock will be different (no gradient half way up - but a gradient at the very top instead)

try flicking the clock away (up stroke) see if u feel thats any faster
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
I was too quick to yell wolf. Sorry :D

I meant to say this:

The scrolling speed of the tabs is still the same for me. But speeds in switching clocks, scrolling people, programs, settings is much much much faster. Sorry about that. It worked, but is there any way to make the tab scrolling faster? My process: Disable TF3D>Install>Soft-reset>Re-enable TF3D.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
im personally finding the scrolling a little better as long as u dont hit certain tabs. as for speading it up. very easy. now i know what im doing is working, i can work on more of it.

all i did was found the large textures - any above 128x128 - and reduced them to 128x128 - there should be no visual difference (since they would have had to have been halved in size coz of vga->qvga scaling), they are smaller (1/4 the ram requirement) and they are handled by the 3d chip much better when they dont brake that limit -i need to investigate changing the size of images already smaller than that limit.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dredd67:
It IS faster, especially the clock swapping, but scrolling also.

Good finding !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
unfortuantly, i cant take the credit, someone else pointed out that it would have this effect, i was just the muggins who did the grunt work ;)

hopefully a new cab very soon with some more speed improvements. image quality is a little lower in some places, but thats mostly because im still proving concept and not spending enough time resizing these images correctly - plus theres some bugs in manilaeditors QTC handling. once im happy with the concept, imma try and write my own QTC handling with better resize - and make it all automagic resizing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] showaco:
+1 to that, I'm running tilt with eos 4.888.f rom
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
same dealy as before:

http://www.facewhore.com/TF3D QVGA Port Team Infeon Friendly TF3d Images Beta 2.cab

disable tf3d, softreset, install cab, re-enable tf3d
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ryomahino:
Self Working in Artemis

Hi everybody, I decide to test the Tflo3d with a OpenGL ES driver that was shared in the first intent of porting Manila to our devices(that was before the development of the famous kaiser drivers).

Well here are my results:

like you see TFLO3d works? in artemis but its slow and the graphics from theme not show, I think its problem of OpenGL driver (maybe its too old, and need more development). What do you think?

The good news its that openGL was developed by Vincent for non-specific device, so maybe we can found one driver that make work in all our devices, or better someone can develop the driver (sorry I dont know anything of programming).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hanackin:
Hi

the link on page 1 is not working....it is not a link so I can't make a right click :rolleyes:

:D

ok I've just seen the link just up...I guess it is the same, no?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] psicobra@hotmail.com:
wow much faster nice one the only issue iseem to be hving is on the audio tab gives me an error message

The file

"audio<anager_eng cannot be opened it is either not signed with a trusted certificate yada yada yada
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hallbin:
Does anyone have an answer for hermes？

I am using HERMES，I like the Manila 3d Interface.

I heard that hermes has ATI IMAGEON chipset,and it has a video driver.

So how can make it support OpenGL ES？

Can somebody build a DLL file for Hermes？

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xsoulreaver:
TF3D : terminated unexpectedly

Hi guys.. i tried copying HTCAPI.DLL into the windows folder and installed the original (VGA) manilla cab..

but im unable to get it to work.. is there something that i might eb missing here..

Im using XDA Flame.. Any changes i might have to make before i get this to work..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gianlu91best:
opengl

Where can I download opengl es driver??? :confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ilos:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20081009_1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gianlu91best:
opengl es

Well i have an htc blueangel (qtek9090) there are drivers fot it????
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ranj9119:
sorry if i post this but what do u mean in this part?

If you have VGA you probably dont need this port (if manila doesnt work on your device, try getting hold of HTCAPI.DLL and put it in \windows folder on your device)

sorry again.

cheers hirad
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ilos:
for me on a kaiser, it doesn't work... always say :

Tap here to launch touchflo.... launching touchflo...

Tap here to launch touchflo.... launching touchflo...

Tap here to launch touchflo.... launching touchflo...

i use a old build OS and i will try with a new one today

EDIT : same thing with a new build os.

OS tested : OS build 19202 ( Nothrills V3 French )

and : OS build 20755 ( AthineOS Manila Edition v1.1 WWE )

Both with htcclassaction.org driver

Hard SPL 3.29

Radio Rom : 1.65.24.36

EDIT 2 : I will try another rom : Garmin & Hyperdragon and give feedback.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
opengl es for athena?

I tested original manila cab from diamond but it didnot worked

any opengl es driver for athena?

my device is vga and i have HTCAPI.DLL into the windows folder,

any help?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ilos:
feedback :

work on garmin rom but very very very slow...

Don't work on the lasted Hyperdragon

EDIT : Working on lasted Hyperdragron with TF3D installed on SD CARD
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maaafeb05:
I think that this release is quite nice but need some fix. The problem always about freezing, when wake up or open another programs and then go back to today screen. This might a bug in returning to today or waking up that stops the program from running smoothly as it does when you restart the device. I will be looking forward for a better release of this program. Thanks guys for all of your hard work.

Regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] matiu:
In my Niki with the Niki Rom lite work, but the foto/video switch and the audio switch don't work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Klong4:
i know that its probably that i am using an elfin touch, but most of the graphics are showing up as big white blocks, yet everything is useable and runs decently.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ilos:
just look my edit if that help...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] beher:
Don't Work On Trinity:(:(:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nuke1:
Hi

What ROM are you using for that? should be interesting...

Thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rocky200:
TRINITY-new ervius 5.2.22222 build 22222 aku 2.2.2 blu angel

All are silent!!!

:mad:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
What driver are you using?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
Chainfire and djboo,

I just have to ask this... Hergilla (in its original stages of development) was able to run in any device. I know I had it running in my BA. I was getting the 4-6 fps that everyone else was getting and that was without installing any extra drivers. I want to know what exactly changed from that point to this that has rendered most devices incompatible with TF3D. Maybe if you can figure that out, you will be able to get this thing running in all devices again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jakub_w:
please post what rom youre using, would maybe help with gettign it working on htc touches
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ilos:
last driver from HTCclassaction and Samsung Omnia Driver

I had tried again on nothrills but without success...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] swanlm:
Feedback

For me this is working really smoothly on Kaiser. Only one little glitch for me is that it can't find audiomgr_eng.exe but I'm sure that this is simply a rename of the exe to get it working.

Well done to all involved; for the 10 mins I've been using this I'd say its nearly ready for prime time.

For reference:

I'm using Hyperdragon III Opal (can't remember exactly which version but I think is September 20). Downloaded latest driver from HTC Class Action.

TF3D installed in main memory.

I followed the procedure below:

1. Disabled TouchFlo.

2. Installed HTC Class Action Driver.

3. Installed TF3D-QVGA from Update 7 (in first post of this thread). Didn't reset.

4. Installed fonts cab from Update 8 (in first post).

5. Installed Update 9 (in first post).

6. Soft reset and by default TouchFlo was enabled.

7. Disabled TouchFlo and enabled TouchFlo3D (in settings -> Today).

8. Installed HTC Audio Mgr from this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2766889&postcount=492

9. All working.

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Try this cab if your audiomanager doesn't work
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] swanlm:
Worked a treat. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
I was aware of the 128x128 thing, and it was already planned to be implemented in code as well. What I want to know is, are you sure you resized ONLY 128x128 and bigger? At least to start out, I'd like to keep everything compatible - so I want to make sure I don't resize any images automatically that are already resized (that would give strang results and not be what we are after - get it running simple and easily, and let people do fixes like these as well to possibly get it running even better).

I still have quite a bit of work to do on the port codewise, I just hope to keep it all compatible with these fixes as well. Thing is, I can't just leave it at what you are doing (IMHO) because themes and such may overwrite these files again (or use other >> 128x128 textures) that we want to have working as fast as possible too.

(as said previously, I still got a bunch of tricks in my bag, just takes time to implement 'em!)

You gotta find the software driver that was used... I think it was a "Vincent" based driver but not sure.... As most of that topic has had a lot of deletions etc, I did try but was not able to locate it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lilhgarcia1:
After searching over 15 pages i gave up looking
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] swanlm:
I can confirm this issue with Quickmenu. Most programs either started from Quickmenu or switched to from Quickmenu will be visible for a few secs and then TF3D activates itself to foreground. If you start the same program from the start menu or TF3D launcher, the program sticks to the foreground.

I also noticed that the HTC Task Switcher only shows for a few secs and then is hidden; but if you're quick enough to select the program you want to bring to foreground, that program also sticks to foreground (i.e things work as expected).

This is a minor issue at this stage, so I wouldn't want to distract from the more important task of making TF3D viable for our handsets.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nir36:
Yup, TF3D works GREAT on my polaris. there are a few problems with smoothness here and there but generally.. it's really really cool.. can't complain.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Have you resolved your problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
wasnt trying to step on toes dude ;) like i said proof of concept. and i know youre aware of it, ive tried to not take credit for the concept at all. didnt realise you were working on this in code - should have guessed really tho. and yes, this cab WILL **** up themes.

i resized anything bigger than 128 in either res, so stuff like the loading images that are 64x512 got resized too. other than that i also resized the tab images to see if that would speed up the tab switching (they are 64x64 to start with)

id much prefer if the images were resized progrmatically - giving us the support of themes etc. part of me is wondering if it is better done outside of manila itself and a one time only (per theme) action since that will reduce the footprint - since theres so many files and theres no compression, these files are taking up a lot of space. the kaiser its not a huge dealy as theres is plenty of space (relatively speaking) but im sure itll help out on the 64mb ram phones.

youre right, it is the vincent driver. ive got it on my pc but im at the in laws today so ill grab it when im back.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kaasaanfiets:
what do i need to download and install to get 3dmanila working.

Make your startpost better, becose it doesnt make much sence now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200895:
Dear sirs,

all of you is writing that M3D is working fine on your device but I can't understand how to have a device always switched on is a good working!!!

Have you find out a solution? If yes, please tell me how to switch the kaiser in standby mode because I like manila 3d a lot but this item is making me crasy.

Please help me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pirlone:
i get the same error in PictureTab (AlbumSearcher missing) :confused:

everything else works ok (except poweroff, but that's driver problem).

my device is niki100, NIKI Lite V2.1 3D HW ROM.

any suggestion?

rgs,

pirlone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200895:
What do you mean that the poweroff item is a driver problem? Is there a driver that solve this issue? So are you using your tytn always switched on?

Regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jug6ernaut:
ive never had a program that toke as long as this one did to install lol. like 20+ minutes
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] swanlm:
Read this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2766837&postcount=491
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
I'm gonna work on the graphics because to be honest, the graphics.. sucks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] swanlm:
Yeah, I was going to feedback this issue as well but thought maybe it was some conflict with the ROM I had (Hyperdragon Opal). Since you have the same problem, looks like it could be related to M3D. Landscape mode also does some pretty crazy things and I've had one or two freezes. So I wouldn't say its something to be using full time but there doesn't seem to be a lot more to do to make it work properly. Performance is great on my Kaiser and all the features work smoothly.

Perhaps if it gets cooked into a ROM all these issues would be addressed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xsoulreaver:
VGA devices.

so any ideas on how to get this working on VGA devices..??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mreaglejr:
I thought it was bcoz of the drivers