yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pazookie:
any plans on bringing back the morphing from page to page that was removed by htc due to performance issues..?

and also i realized after updating nu,ber 2 and messing around with different tf3d cabs dont know when it happened but realized it now) all the icons are blurry and seem to be a lower resolution..was this intended to save space or is something wrong with my setup?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The Solutor:
Please add Imate ultimate 8502 (msm7200 based) to the list, it works w/o any external driver.

Tried with the wm 6.1 beta ROM.

Tried installing the 3d kaiser driver: the phone won't boot anymore and HR is required to solve the problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
Does it work fast? If so, could you dump your rom for us please? :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The Solutor:
Well... I only seen the original TF3D. Never seen Manilla 3d running on a Kaiser or other 320x240 HTC devices.

So the original is faster than manila 3d on the imate 8502, but manila 3d runs reasonably fast, all the 3d animations are fluid, some lags are present only when I switch from a tab to another.

I think that is not possible with a SW only rendering.

Seem that noone has managed to dump the 8502/9502 roms (and to get a working procedure to get flashable image), so there is only a beta wm 6.1 rom:

http://rapidshare.com/files/150857473/Ultimate_8502_TEL.01.73_NO_CP.exe.rar

To get the image just run the .exe and you will find the image in the c:\temp directory.

My skill in those low level things is very limited but maybe some of the xda gurus can do the job of dumping the files from the linked image.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
What is difference between manila3D and touchFlo 3d ??? i tought it was the same things. need screen !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
It's the same Flo. Easy now. :p

Soluor, thank you. I'll look into it when i get home from work. Maybe someone else from the team (read: Rogro or CF) could look into these files too?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vj4:
hey guys can some one give me a link to the picture album cab that works coz i cant get on rapid share otherwise running well crash's after i try to turn the screen of might be a s2u2 issue dont know other wise its ace.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigdd15:
the 3rd version still has the same issues on

ks20 tradition chinese[taiwan]10c rom. the touch screen

response is severely displaced, so it is

totally not functionable without hardware buttons

is it a shared problem with all non-English roms

or just the traditional Chinese ones?

anyone has the solution of this problem/?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
it's working fine on my niki. thx :) . but anyway i found some bugs: when it's toggled on, i cant seem to be able to turn the device off. if i press the power button the screen just does turn the backlight lower, but the touchscreen is still responsive. i can turn it off via psshutxp but most of the time it crashes then... would be awesome if u could fix this =) really really nice work ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Not sure - imfloflo is also seeing this issue... but not found yet why :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
on Polaris is realy fast, for me it's just the same TurnOff issue, but is one old one ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sarantos:
Can I ask a silly question ?

This 2,97 MB file has everything, Opera, Audio Manager etc, or we have to find them elsewhere ?

And where can we find them ? will they be compatible with this TFLO3D ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
hmm so how did u fix it? did you find a fix for it? because it's really annoying... the performance is ok if it just wouldn't crash always :/ i can't get it into my pocket for example because it would randomly press buttons and locking and making light lower would still drain the battery :(

ohh i missed that:

they should try to fix that at htc ca ;)

i believe ill stay with manila 2d until this problem is fixed... this is the only problem keeping me away from using it since togglemanila doesn't work for me like the guy under my post has the same issue :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xECK29x:
New cab installs and uninstalls much faster, everything runs much smoother and much more stable.

Same driver related problems exist (no power off/standby, program focus issues)

The only thing that really is a killer for me is ToggleManilla does not work for me, it does nothing, it no longer switches M2D with M3D, and because of the focus issue I cannot turn off M3D to play emulators or really do anything with the phone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
A lot of technical background and guides and tools for Manila image manipulation has been posted here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=437777
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dremanueleb:
Hi chainfire

I have a device MITAC MIO A701(wm6) I have installed last version of touchflo 3d but I see only 'white image'. Can you fix white images?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
white image where ? background image ? ) or all tab or in album tab ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dremanueleb:
Hi,

I see white image in all tabs and in digital clock.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gamer123:
Amazing work

Simply awesome work by everyone on this project. With moving the manillatoggle into windows directory, screen toggle works perfectly again. Only question is there a way to tweak MBarvian's 2d landscape for the 3d version?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zodrakn:
on Daxian x999(wm6) I have installed last version of touchflo 3d(the 3d version) but I see only 'white image' and artefacts
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
Compatibility?

I know this may not be widely compatible yet, but any fixes for the "Unable to launch TouchFLo" message on today screen after pressing the "Tap to Launch" (I used to recieve this same problem/message for M2d before the non-htc device fix, I even tried to use the same cab installer fix for m2d but no luck :( ) Any ideas? Thanks,

-sosloe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vj4:
ok all seems to work but crash's a fair bit. And i cant get the cab for the album photo's otherwise its all good loving it i almost dont mind the constant soft resetting to use it insted of tl or manilla 2d.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
it means u have no working open gl es driver on your device.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
ohh and btw: in the new release i got the problem that the text anywhere (tabs appointment part, etc) is just showing like IDS_NOAPPOINTMENTS or IDS_EMAIL at the email tab... pretty annoying...

otherwise: tabs load faster, animations are slower
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] onerase:
hi,

Did someone tryed TF3D on an Elfin ? the cpu might be not enough to run it according to what I've already read...

Thanks for answers.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
You need to install the language pack if you have this issue.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
ok thx for the hint :) and btw: all animations are faster i just thought so because i hadnt installed diamond album it showed an error message but worked so i thought np but now performance is better =)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hartley95:
Touch Dual

I've finally taken the plunge and just installed the latest version on my Touch Dual (NIKE 16 Key) running the latest official HTC 6.1 Rom.

With the Kaiser/Nike Drivers this will not load, but with the Polaris Drivers it runs quite smoothly except the audio tab! This maybe a problem due to the version of audio player I installed with 2d manila version 19a?

The only other problem I can see is if I power off and then back on Nothing nothing within Manila 3d works. i.e. I can't switch tabs, the clock doesn't update etc, but I can still click on start and access other programs / settings etc.

This is looking fantastic so far.

Thanks for all the hard work you are puting into this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
Dudes, M3d v3 is smokin fast on Kangx's 1.2!! It only lags loading songs and pics.

Great job!

Still have the power and white pics bug.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
Stby... No white pic bug, after all. Music does´n work, but I have the fix from prvious installs.

Lets see how power drainage is. Seems like M3d is close to be ready for dai2day.

Love you guys!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_fish:
u have to install an additional audio manager cab to make it work ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
@ hartley95

Search for swtos audio manager. Should be on this thread already. Soft reset after installation and you should be good. I had this problem with every rom/M3d combination I tried
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
Is the best/most compatible Opengl es drivers the ones referred to in the first post?

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121298&d=1223892257

Thanks,

-sosloe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shawn718:
Will this work on the sprint mogul? :confused: Would love to try this out.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rohithathie:
do you think that you can ever fix the power off without disabling tf3d ??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
It's not his/their job. It's up to the HTCclassAction fellows (if they want to) who gave us the drivers while HTC leaned back and enjoyed there coffee while reading there salary checks. :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
i dont know which driver to use for the mogul..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
where do i place the vincent 3d dll's?.. in the windows folder?..

i have the mogul.. do i even need to use anything else?.

i tried installing it by itself.. and I can somewhat see the touchflo.. but most of its white.. and it moves very slowly..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
it has to look something like this, well sort of
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
well for the mogul.. can you tell me what i need to do?..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
if you get white images it's because of the driver. try one of these drive http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20081009_1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
I tried using the Kaiser driver.. and it froze my phone, so i had to do a hard reset.. ill try the other one..

Do i need to uninstall the tf3d before i do it, then re-install it?..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
It doesn't matter, just as long as you have tf3d disabled. Try the samsung omnia driver
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
A lot of people are currently working on the drivers, to get them to behave better. It is unknown if a solution will be find, but we're all doing our best here.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Klong4:
does anyone have any good info on how to develop software opengles drivers. I think that at this point im ready to try and figure it out.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
alright, so i tried both the kaiser and the polaris.. and both freeze the mogul..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
the clue is probably in the name ;)

also, youre device is only a 64meg device - youre probably gonna spend most of that on tf3d and have none left for anything else. i can probably say that on the mogul, tf3d isnt a good idea.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
And if it works for some reason, which it probably won't.. tf3d is going to be sluggish on your phone. Manila 2D is your best option.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
I wish wdm would give up the info he has on how he got it working on the touch.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
I believe you :)

*On Sourceforge.net, I saw Vincent 3D 2.X Project.(Not 1.1 API) But, It looks like Inactive status :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
thats very different drivers - chainfire is working on 3d kaiser drivers - and assisting porting those to other phones that have pretty much same chipset. he ISNT working on software drivers

there is a better sw driver called 'rasteroid' but locating the driver isnt easy since nvidia bought the company

if u find it, ill post it on the front page and give u full credit
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
rasteroid? I will check it out :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KingSiddhartha:
yeah, thats what ive been using.. thought i could be one of the cool kids and upgrade to 3d
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
Where do I place the opengl drivers I downloaded from page 1...? I placed them in my windows directory but not working :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chihliouma:
Can somebody comment if it will this work for ELFIN ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bedaweed:
How come this works on nike but not a vogue? arent they the same specs and everything?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Man, if you'd just post what you did, how you changed it, post your files, etc, so we can have a go at it as well... that'd be great :)

(And if you don't want to release publicly, you can always send it to me privately!)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kristoff_sz:
Godhead speaks... Make his will!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
why don't release jsut some files not the runnig programe but some files to let use see into this and find a way to decode xml please.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
problem is that i made soo many changes and don't know which one did it, now i'll have to figger it out...its working, just dont know what did the trick...will have to find that out first...only then can i start to think on release anything...

have pacience, its all i ask for...i've done this before with spb's mobile shell and touchflo2D...so i'll do it again :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
the files are already around the WWW ... i've asked for D-MAN666 to show me how to decompile the mode9 files....i'm just waiting for an answer...pacience
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
That's just it, I don't think you have to :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
i succes to read m9 files without any soft.

there is xml and some piece of code into it.

Don't understand where is the problem whit m9 files.??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Was this needed to actually get it _RUNNING_ ? (no matter how it looked, I just need it to run)

BTW, this http://luadec.luaforge.net/ may help.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
what program are you using? that is what i'm trying to do open it like that :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Maybe he's using a different manila source than we are? care to post the one you are using as base? (imfloflo)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Don't use any program just find this files, don't remember where.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ouioui01:
Maybe you can try to open it with ultraedit or textpad ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
i have to say im very frustrated right now. u could have hundreds of people helping you right now but instead you are struggling on your own. id almost rather u hadnt told us ud got it working!

this is a development fourm after all - we arent looking for glory, (im sure herg can take what you do and place it in a cab to claim that ;) ) we are looking for this app on our devices - and a few of us are looking for the programming/hacking challenge.

Please at least give us some hints on what you did. like is it a custom rom, was it a dependancy, was it a hack on the exe? something. i wanna know how far id gone wrong hehe.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
yes that right, i tought xda member are more and more silent on there work (or with their faves) and let us without any news or any files :(

But they do that to protect us to have bad effect on our device and have bad comment after. And have a fully working new file when it 'll be avalaible.

So one hand i'm frustrated to not view source and can make my own code :(.

On the other hand it protect my systeme :).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
this is from the beta manila...will not work with the new one, but the structure is the same...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Where i can find the news files to look at it ?on xda ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] radem205:
Is the new manilla compiled? Because when I open the files of imfloflo nothing is compiled. I find a few variables in settings.m9 and manila.lua which have connections with the screenwidth and screenheight (are set to 640x480px). I don't know if you have tried to edit these settings, but a lot of variables are made using the screenheight and screenwidth variables. So I think when you edit these variables there is something to happen when you launch Manila again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
sorry to see these types of reactions, people should be happy to know that it finally works...i have already asked for yours and others help, i need to know how to open up the new mode9 files...noone till now gave me the answer, without this no more progress will be done cause layout is in them.

if you what to help, find the solution i'm after, you dont need the files of manila to make this, its a "simple", decompile a mode9 file (*_manila in diamond), change, recompile, decompile new changed file and see if it decompiled/recompiled correctly...

you all had manila for ages now, and had little progress, try to keep the eye on the ball, please...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
run the cab on your device...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
From what ive read the nike is the 7200 procerssor and the touch is the 7500
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Klong4:
Rasteroid attached below
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
I got same dlls on blenderpocket. but i don't know what should i do:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Klong4:
rename the libGLES_CM_NoE.dll to libGLES_CM.dll and put it in your windows folder
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
The opengl drivers are not the vincent 3d dll zip? it only contains 2 dlls, no cab... Do I need a different file? Thanks,

-sosloe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
put them in your windows folder
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
umm.. In Device Emulator(WM6.1), It doesn't work. I will try these dll on my device in evening.

*Vincent 3D is work in Device Emulator, but white images...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] t76sTaNg:
Hi I tried this on my herald too, and I had no luck getting it to work. How did u get this running on your device?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
but what were you saying about installing a cab? Thanks,

-sosloe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
I thought you were using a cab..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sosloe:
The rasteroid(turtle) demo works on my device (I have already placed the vincent dll's in my windows dir) but I still am getting the unable to launch error, any ideas? :(

-sosloe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200895:
does the rasteroid solve the PowerOff bug?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rocky200:
When

Trinity

Can run Manilla 3d?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
me too, just launch error :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Laurentius26:
I agree with you, after cooking it in it's even faster and I do use it now every day. :D

Power seems very reasonable as well!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jokove:
JasjAr???

Can we use it on Jasjar?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
Thanks for the rasteroid. The teams working on the 2D/3D drivers could definitely use these files! Like the Imate 8502's driver we're looking into we should look into this too.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] namuk:
My KS20 get work on it.

But the Menu Bar can't direct point and Choose.

(Can use the moving finger action only)

Also, it works very slow.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Oh a 3rd release where it get from ?

I 'll test it right now but very long to install over the v2 i think i'll hardreset and install again to see improvements.

For Ks20 pb i think it's driver issue and you need to wait for a specific ks20 driver release.

Finish install this version is faster than previous, always bottom bar bug but its my rom i think test on progress, on album tab white picture but i see a thing ( when sliding down to change picture the white picture show the real photo few sec before she disapear at top of the screen).

Great job just need to fix the off screen pb now for me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vysus:
Last version installed on Polaris (M-Amine ROM running), had to remove it twice: device became toooo slow...

What about adding new city? Sorry for noob question :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
Do you have a WWE rom? If not, that explains your slowdowns.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
i have the same ROM but WWE and is realy fast, i just need the fix for turnOff button.

Video works

photos works

all works

and verry fast

verry useble when fix is discovered ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vysus:
M-Amine cooked different versions of his ROM, so you mean that if I put on the WWE version instead of the ITA actually running, eveything could run smoothly?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
Or you could install the language pack Chainfire posted. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Amedeus:
Where to copy OpenGL files to...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Neos2007 i install the lastest review of chiainfire v3 and i have strange name in tf3d, so i install the language pack and all is good.

But this language pack don't fix the slowdown probleme and the bottom tab bar.

I'll isntall M-amine WWE i think really want a TF3D as quickly as in itje video.

rasteroid test and have a score of 9 without copy any dll in windows folder
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] szmatti:
very fast on the Ks20:) but the power off doesn´t work :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jokove:
Htc Universal

the softwere installed correectly on the universal

it appears in today menu,

i disabeled all the other plugins

it shows"Tap here to launch TouchFlo..." and when i tap it starts the launch process than stops,

can i do anything to make it work?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
tap again and again or shake your device :p (joking)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jokove:
no really?!?!

is there any chance

i even installed the kaiser drivers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
No you must wait specific HTC universal driver