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[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] alek889:
Just what he 👆 said! (Is the same friking phone)..
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] evnStevn:
Right On!👍
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] killchain:
My thoughts are that the 5a 5G is what the 4a 5G should've been to begin with (but of course that would've made it too similar to the 5 at the time of release). I'm happy with my 4a 5G and at the same time a little bummed that I needed a phone urgently three months ago and got that. I might consider a Pixel 6 Pro after some months.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] evnStevn:
Yeah, I feel you on that, kinda going through that myself but decided not to purchase either.

For one, the Pixel 6 isn't really a choice, right?! Not too many folks are going to buy a new handset that's playing second string. I noticed immediately when I started looking, the 256 & 512gb P6P's we're already gone, just the 128gb's stg. we're left. What's more, the P6 had the 256 & 128gb's on hand, but then the slower/lower display refresh rate and reduced RAM (<2gb) kinda talk you out of it. The P6P's we're definitely Google's choice for new buyers, as I noticed their Google store site was all centered around the Big Gun, and that's just marketing. You had to do a little digging around the site to find a P6 to send to your cart, whereas google.had the device comparison all set-up when you selected their choice, or the P6P model! No freebies, neither, that hit me right from the start....no $10.00 off your order like I had when purchasing my P5a.

I'm not gonna spring for neither at the present, but will keep an eye on their new SoC, Tensor, to see how it performs and such. It's kinda like when you're out shopping for a new ride and you see a new model & it's one you like, but then that old school rule of thumb kicks in to remind 'ya don't buy it if there's a major component change (like the engine, etc) & it's in it's model year? Sorry for rambling, but believe it or not this was my mindset, and helped me to decide to wait this one out, at least for the time being.🤔
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] V0latyle:
Some people just have to have the latest and greatest, regardless of what improvement it might bring them. Kinda like the iStuff folks. I like the idea of assessing cost vs benefit - like how much money are you spending for what sort of difference. I bought my Pixel 2 after it had already been out for a year, and used that until I upgraded to the Pixel 5 earlier this year...and only because the battery was showing its age. I won't be upgrading to the 6, and the only reason why I got the 5 over the 4a was because I wanted a bigger battery. If the 4a 5g were still in stock, I'd get one for my wife to replace her Pixel 3.

Who knows, now that the 6 is out, we might see a price cut on the older devices?
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] bubbyj:
I'm with ya buddy. As you can see, I stated the same identical thing in an earlier post here. Pixel took a page from the iPhone handbook and made it their own. An upgrade that's not an upgrade. Changing the name of a device is not an upgrade.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] V0latyle:
I would disagree. The Pixel 6 / 6 Pro are kinda revolutionary in the sense that they're on the Tensor SoC platform whereas all Pixel and Nexus devices since the Nexus 4 in 2012 have used Qualcomm Snapdragon. This is Google's first venture using in-house designed hardware, although the Tensor is quite similar to the Exynos platform. The Tensor makes some compromises to accommodate the TPU, so it seems like Google is investing a lot in AI hardware; both the SD888 and Exynos 2100 easily outperform so it will be interesting to see what happens with the next generation.

But, I can see your point on the upgrade perspective; it's worth noting that the Nexus/Pixel line has never exactly been cutting edge. Google has typically opted for mid-range processors in most devices. I think the purpose of the Pixel line really is aimed at the "Google experience" - Android more or less in its native form, with the Google suite fully integrated. You can certainly make the argument that this has been Apple's model for quite some time, but it obviously works - people keep buying iStuff with the latest number even though it looks and performs pretty much the same as the previous generation.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] robocopvn:
Was so confusing considering buying either the 4a 5G or 5a 5G. And I ended up with the Pixel 4a 5g, just for the google photos unlimited backup
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] bubbyj:
You're not disagreeing at all *with me*. Because I made no such statement -- that the Pixel 6/Pro wasn't an upgrade over the older phones.

In fact, we are in full agreement --- the Pixel 6 and Pro are among the best phones ever made IMO. The camera alone is revolutionary. The new 50mp 4/1 binned camera is the best in the business at this very moment. Couple that with the Tensor and its AI computing, mixed with the Gcam's computational photography core... Nothing even comes close. A huge battery, with a 5nm process.... its just a beautiful device inside and out.

But again, I never made a single comment regarding the Pixel 6/pro. The OP/title is discussing the Pixel 4a 5g vs the Pixel 5a.

My post is discussing the 4a 5g vs 5a, as well.

I'm not sure how anyone could confuse that.

With the 5a, my post and statement still stand strong. Its an 'upgrade' in name only. And google appears to be exploiting name changes as upgrades, much like the cult of iWhatever.

There's literally no difference between an 8 and 10.

-same main camera 12mp dual pixel

-same selfie camera 7mp

-same battery 2700mah

-same processor A11

-same gpu Tri-Core Bionic

-same ram 3gb

-same storage 64/128/256

-same ssd type (NVMe)

-same cell bands (4g LTE)

-same wifi adapter (a/b/g/n/ac 2.4 and 5, no 6)

-same essential size (5.5" vs 5.7")

The only 2 and real differences:

-the iPhone 8 scores HIGHER on GeekBench!!

-the identical iPhone X was $300 more at $999 vs $699 for the iPhone 8.

This is nothing short of delusional and psychotic. $300 for a name change, and a 3% bigger screen, and a 4% drop in benchmark scores.

The pixel 5a is exactly the same scenario. Its benchmark scores are actually fractionally lower. And nothing else is really different. Its battery life is essentially the same as the 4a5g, even though its bigger... due to its fractionally larger and brighter screen.

Its fraudulent. And everybody should be able to recognize this. Those that don't, likely deserve the abuse.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] V0latyle:
The Pixel "a" series has always been intended as a "budget" alternative via compromises on hardware and storage. The 4a 5G and 5a are almost identical - they both use the SD765G, same as the Pixel 5. The biggest differences are the 5a is slightly bigger and has a much larger battery. So in that sense, I suppose I could agree with you - the only way a 5a would be an upgrade over the 4a 5g would be battery life. Kind of an odd marketing strategy if you ask me; the 4a 5g could have easily been the 5a, and the 5a could have just had the same hardware as the 5 and become the 5XL.

I'm not sure I would go so far as to decry this as "fraudulent" or "abuse". Generation wise, the Pixel a has always come after the namesake model. I do consider it odd that there's both a 4a and a 4a (5G), with different hardware, and they were only released 3 months apart; it almost seems like Google could have just gone with the 4/4XL, 4a, then the 5 and 5a.

And, with the Pixel 6/6 Pro having identical CPUs but nearly double the RAM and definitely double the storage on the Pro....it does kinda seem like they're going Apple.

But, people still buy it. I've always considered the iStuff model a ripoff too and if Google does the same thing, it'll still be a ripoff. But, they will keep doing it because people will keep buying the phones. Including myself. Though I'll probably wait a bit longer before I upgrade again. I came to the Pixel 5 from the 2.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] bubbyj:
Good call. I've found 4a 5g's on the used (and perfect condition) market for $150.

The 5a 5g has been a huge bust for Google too.

when the 4a 5g came out, it was obviously the deal of a lifetime. You essential got a Pixel 5 for half the price. The only real differences are the IP68 rating, a metal frame, and 90hz display.

The 8% larger battery is more than eaten up by the 50% faster display refresh on the Pixel 5.

So the Pixel 4a 5g was an amazing deal upon introduction. But considering you can get Pixel 5's for $250 on the used market today, anyone who would spend $500 on a 5a is glutten for punishment.

Sadly, the 6a rumor mills are in universal agreement -- it'll use the same 12.2mp IMX 363 main camera as every pixel has used since #2 was released. Which in itself isn't necessarily a *bad* thing. But its tired. And should be REtired.

The 6a should be coming with the 50mp sensor.

I'm a camera guy and make my living as a photographer. I exclusively use the Pixel 4a 5g as my camera, which blows most people's mind -- as they often use $2000+ DSLR camera's. The fact that I can do everything they can with a cheap phone, is just unheard of.

In fact, I created cost/effectiveness ratio's of today's leading phones. The gold standard for benchmarking camera's is the legendary dxoMark score. It takes about a dozen benchmarks into consideration and creates a single score using their proprietary formula. Here is a list of my c/e ratio's (LOWER IS BETTER, scored as dollar per 1 point)

Galaxy S21 Ultra: 121 @ $1200 $ 9.91

Galaxy zFold 3: 124 @ $1800 $14.52

iPhone XS Max: 106 @ $1100 $10.38

xPeria 1 III: 114 @ $1300 $11.41

Google Pixel 5: 120 @ $700 $ 5.83

One Plus 9 Pro: 124 @ $970 $ 7.82

Iphone 13 Max: 137 @ $1100 $ 8.03

And then....

GOOGLE PIXEL 4A 5G 120 @ 350 $ 2.91

While I realize that the camera isn't the only thing that people look for in a phone. CPU's are super important. Pixels per inch. Battery size.

But the great fact of phones is this and nothing less: The average phone buyer is NOT a power user. They take selfies, stalk on facebook, check email, send texts, watch netlfix/porn, and maybe listen to some music. Which means 90% of users can literally tell ZERO difference between using an iphone 13 pro and a samsung a12. I mean, having the facebook app open in 0.8 seconds vs 1.1 seconds is the biggest difference between the two phones and uses.

The 5a and the 4a5 literally have the same capabilities, at the same speeds, with the same results, and same user experience. Its highway robbery.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] evnStevn:
I tend to agree...the only thing I would add is it seemed just a short while ago Google was pulling away from Samsung and beginning to go their own way and then came the Tensor, which we know Google asked the monopolizing conglomerate, Samsung for some pointers, etc., and a handshake later, maybe a partner?! Don't get me wrong, since abandoning ship (uh, that's Samsung's Flag-ship), one of the things that no price tag could cure was having 2 apps (1 Google & 1 Samsung) for everyday usage stuff tho I prefer "Native Android" too in lieu of Google! My handset isn't bogged.down with as much bloatware and when scrolling my app drawer I DON'T SEE, total apps on device=507!

And my point's in here somewhere, I promise, and Google, I get it, why take a huge risk to totally reinvent the wheel if it's not necessary but then are we gonna see the same dropoff from customer goodwill from Google as some saw from Samsung, (i.e., everyone remembers where it all started) with the Note 7 debaucle?! When Samsung finished, and tied a neat little bow on it, several thousand (dare I say million) of us were left holding our "junk" in one hand & the Galaxy Note 7 FE (fan edition, yeah which, btw, I offered up to them, hey guys let's call it: Galaxy Note 7 FS, you know for Fuc#'s Sake...no takers on that one)!🤔

Let's hope/pray Google with it's latest Flagship challenge, decide to hold fast to a higher customer goodwill standard so not as to mirror the outcome that their "new" S.Korean SOc chipset partners had. Sorry I turned my "reply/add to" into the makings of a sound-off platform, God forbid. smh

evnStevn

p.s..dammit man, I know better, but Is it just me, or does anyone else see a striking resemblance with the new Pixel line and the historical Galaxy S10 series, forgoing the huge camera bump? It might be these old eyes, idk
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] V0latyle:
For sure. Samsung is one of the worst offenders with bloatware. My opinion on hardware as well as operating systems is thus: Allow users to have the freedom to choose whatever cloud integration they want. Samsung is trying their damnedest to break into cloud services and AI like Google, but I can't say I have ever been particularly impressed with anything they've had to offer. Besides, people like convenience - most users would rather have "One Account - One Google" instead of having to have a Samsung account, a Verizon account, etc. It's one thing to have the option - it's another entirely to have everything default to one option, and to try to discourage users from using competitors' options.

Microsoft is particularly bad at this with Edge. I prefer Google, including Chrome, for most of my services...simply from a perspective of convenience. They've done a pretty good job of streamlining everything. But, Microsoft has been particularly insistent on use of Edge...even for enterprise platforms (I use Windows 10 LTSC). When I changed the default browser, Windows was like "But have you tried Edge?" Nope, don't want it. "Are you SURE?" Yep. I'm sure. "Okay, we're going to install it for you anyway, and every once in a while we'll ask you again just in case you change your mind."

Yeah, no. I'm a stubborn old mule. The more someone tries to convince me to do something, the less likely I am to even consider it. And if I've made my decision yet you pester me anyway, I'm DEFINITELY not going to change my answer.
[Google Pixel 4a 5G Guides, News, & Discussion] evnStevn:
and did Microsoft put those fake Chrome browser links out there to fool folks when trying to download their favorite and best established browser...how dare I suggest such a thing?!🤔 Preposterous!!
[Wing, P4350 General] mklrbr:
Soo, my wing wont sync calendar from exchange. Anybody know why? I did a quick search, but I think the search sucks on this site :( sorry.

I cant even use activesync to do it. When I watch the activesync on the device I can see it working on "Calendar: 50/200" but when its finished I dont see anything on my calendar, no matter how much I tell it to sync either. 1 week, 2 weeks, months, or all.

Thanks
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] TheGuy6621:
My phone was kinda lagging a little so i decided to give it a reboot. Thereafter the phone shutdown but didnt turn on i tried opening it and it was just pitch black i tried charging it but nothing actually happened, hopfully i get a respond and thank you!
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] mobnoob:
Maybe the phone was updating and you brute force rebooted it.

If you are not DIY, you need to take the phone to a service center but that would cost money.
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] McDude71:
The Phone wasn't updating, many people are having this problem, me being one of them, here to the phone started lagging, so decided to reboot, and then It won't turn on. Tried all the tricks, ended up waiting 3 days and put it in de charger, after 5 minutes I I kept the power button pressed and it gave a sign of life, but showed the battery empty, waited 5 more minuted and tried again. This time it turned on, after a week exactly the same problem, after 3 days I could start it with the same procedure, at this time there was an update, installed the update, and tried to restart, it now turns off, does start, but I don~t have to wait dthe three days., after some time I can start it manually again, but it is a clear problem with the phone. ANd I expect it to be software related.
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] mobnoob:
Phones have become complicated like computers, the phone was lagging because it was doing something for sure then you shut it down.

If you're able to turn the phone ON, I suggest you STOP trying wrong moves and do a hard reset.
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] McDude71:
Ok, last time I succeeded in turning on my phone, I went I to updates and feedback and send message with the logs of my phone. Today I got a reply, they have determined that it is the motherboard and they adviced me to take it to the nearest deviceocation and have it checked out
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] mobnoob:
Your option was to "hard reset" the phone and that is what any repair shop will try as a first step.

Don't waste your time with incompetent and misleading scammers' replays because no shop will waste time checking a motherboard unless it's a $1,000+ phone BUT they will replace it anyways, they don't waste time checking it.

And do you have a Xiaomi or Poco service center near you?? LOL

I also sent a message and the logs to updates and feedback but they never replayed back, they also both Xiaomi and Poco NEVER replayed back to my e-mails and requests made on their Facebook pages, that means these companies are crooks and scammers.
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] LenaTom:
Look at this thread...

https://xdaforums.com/t/poco-m3-does-not-turn-on-anymore.4286783/
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] A.Rehman4749:
I reboot my poco M3 because it was malfunctioning.But now it doesn't load the main screen.After draining battery and connecting to charger it shows charging sign for 5 minutes and suddenly POCO logo appears for 2 seconds and then it began to charge without loading the main screen and after charging 100%i tried to turned it on by pressing power button but it becomes dead.I have charged it several times and it acts same as mentioned every time.I have also tried to enter fastboot mode but this never work's.I cannot afford to take it to tech.if someone have any solution to fix this problem then kindly let me know.
[POCO M3 Questions & Answers] ANerdyNub:
What worked for me was waiting a few days to drain batter, then when I plug in and there is a charge icon I just wait and after a while(5 minutes or something) poco logo appears and after that when it goes back to battery icon I click volume buttons like crazy so it won't die, then when it shows one percent I hold power button while still clicking volume and it shows poco again(stop clicking now). It then shows miui and works fine
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] leoking3:
Hey guys, as the title says...I have a Mi 11 Pro, CN version. All fine until the MIUI 12.5 Enhanced update yesterday. Notifications only go through when I unlock the phone, like it used to be on some Huawei phones some time ago. No matter what battery saving change I make, no restrictions, etc, it is the same. If I dont unlock the phone for 30 minutes, I dont get any notification: no Wtp, no Gmail, no FB messenger. Only when I unlock, or at least turn on the screen. Very disappointed... Any idea?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] jim262:
The update has battery saving features in oder to save on battery. that means it shuts down many apps that run in the background. You need to turn off the battery optimizations features and give your apps permission to run in the background.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lunarken:
i have this problem too after the udated... my whatsapp notfication has been delayed.

even in whatsapp desktop.. keep showing the yellow banner.. saying phone has DC etc.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] leoking3:
Thank you, will try again. I did that with Gmail, but issue was the same...
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] jim262:
China rom wasn't designed to work with Gmail or any other Google services. You can always expect there to be problems with the China rom and western software working together.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] leoking3:
Yes it wasnt ,but on the otherr hand , the core is there, unlike Huawei. Everything works on it actually, except for android auto. And again actually :)), the second time worked and notifications go through after disabling the battery restrictions.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] jim262:
Core is there, but that doesn't mean that it will work flawlessly. But I am glad things are working for you.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] lunarken:
sorry, whats ur steps to make it work?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] leoking3:
Hey man, it is classic: I long press the app, then choose App Info, Battery Saver and choose No restrictions. No other action. But I have to tell you: it worked last evening, now in the morning the email again did not come through. Did not get any Wtp messages yet to verify that too. It is starting to annoy me and will most probably go for an oppo or smth instead.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] shadowstep:
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[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] muca89:
Hi

Is there a way to force 90hz refresh rate system-wide? Apps like Samsung Internet or YouTube can only be used with 60hz.

There is a way to do that for the OnePlus Nord 1 by executing the following ADB command, but it didn't work for my Nord 2:

adb shell settings put global oneplus_screen_refresh_rate 0

Any ideas?
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] Mysteriouslog6:
Change the oneplus with oppo? Maybe that will help?

You could also try:

"adb shell settings list global | grep refresh"

just send the output , might have the same option.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] nealyblue:
Autohz in the app store works on older oneplus handsets, don't see why it wouldn't work on Nord 2

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arter97.auto90&hl=en_US&gl=US
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] HoBnoBS:
Hi - I'm having the same issue. The oneplus_screen_refresh_rate 0 appears to do nothing on this model. Attached is my global (without the grep refresh). Sadly I already tried adding oneplus_screen_refresh_rate, you can also see a mistype of oneplus_sccreen_refresh_rate, and a speculative oplus_screen_refresh_rate which I added based off other items in the global file.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] HoBnoBS:
Also tried this app, got the toggles to show 90Hz for each app but the dev frequency tool showed most still dropped to 60Hz. I assume this app is just adjusting the oneplus_screen_refresh_rate setting.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] nealyblue:
This is a massive deal breaker for me, my Nord 2 arrives tomorrow and is being sent straight back. These are now nothing more than Oppo handsets in Oneplus branding. If you check the Oppo forums this is a known issue where Oppo decide which apps can and cannot run at the higher RR and as far as I can tell there is no fix either (certainly not without root). As Samsung internet is my browser of choice not Chrome (which will run at 90hz) this is something I refuse to live with, all other manufacturers have no issue running this app at the HRR.
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] HoBnoBS:
Can you please give it a go before you send it back and let me know how it goes? This was my first attempt at using the ADB tool and was operating on less than 3 hours sleep (though I am a generally competent person technically).
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] sakarya1980:
Hi,

The adb commands are:

I use Macrodroid for switch between 60 and 90 Hz.. turn off screen 60Hz, turn on 90Hz. On Fkm you can make qs buttons with Scripts.

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[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] nealyblue:
Ok, I have tried all fixes and I still cannot get all apps to run at 90HZ, Samsung internet and google photos still run at 60hz despite trying AutoHZ with the Nord 2 fix and also trying the ADB commands above. I am returning this handset and it will be the last Oneplus (OPPO) phone I buy,
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] sakarya1980:
A global function not possible at the moment. this regulates a file refresh_rate_config.xml namely, which is in my_products .. this file cannot be edited .. not yet :)
[OnePlus Nord 2 5G] HoBnoBS:
sakarya - sorry can you please explain what those commands do? I'm trying to force a specific app to run at 90Hz that only wants to run at 60Hz.

Thanks!