yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
The cab changes the start logo, settings icons, some program icons, and a few folder icons. I have PMed a link. Please remember I am not sure if the cab will uninstall. I have set it to uninstall but sometimes they still wont. If the cab dosent work for you you may have to hard reset. I have PMed the link to you. I am fairly sure the cab will work but I like peole to be aware there is a slight risk. :)

After you install the cab you will need to reset for the changes to take effect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] evertroy:
All seems fine. I noticed a few of the icon changes. I was wondering, is there a way to make the icon say 3G instead of H when I am connected? I dont even know if it does that on the stock ROM because I flashed on like day 2 of owning the phone. I dont know what all to test on here tho, it seems to work perfect for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
It will only show 3g if its available in your area. Its just a faster connection than E or G.

As long as things look like in the screenshots above Id say it worked fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
New version Uploaded
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
http://rapidshare.com/files/154592986/ATT_3.57_Ruppy_RELEASE.3.7.nbh.rar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Thanks for the mirror:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcmexican:
Any chance your going to include a version with the Opal dialer you were talking about in the Shogun thread?

-McMex
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
I am working on a working version with the opal dialer. There seems to still be a missing file to make it work perfectly. I have incorporated part of the dlls from the dialer into the rom already. I am in the process of decompiling all of the dlls from the opal dialer package to try and trace the dependencies. I have it where it looks like it should but it tends to lock up periodically.

I am hoping I can devote some real time to it this weekend. I will probably go to two versions once I get it working.

one for those that want the att dialer for the video share and one for those that want the Opal Dialer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcmexican:
Sounds good thanks

-McMex
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Regarding the Opal dialer, how can it be customized for other languages?

Otherwise it'll not be possible to use the contacts list (ie - use the smart dialing funtionality).

Also, could you please post some pictures of the application screens? Especially the screens that show the customizations that you've done (and that make this ROM special).

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Several of us are still working on getting the Opal Dialer to work correctly. Once we get it to work right it should not be overly difficult to produce language packs for it. I will see what I can do if we get it working.

As far as what makes this rom special, In my opinion the thing that makes it most special is stabilty. I have done my best to make it as stable as possible. Take a look at release numbers. These numbers are assosiated with number of times I have cooked not with actual releases. this release is my 37th build.

I want it to be perfect. Unfortunately with all the people that have downloaded it I have received very little feedback.

Heres a few more screens
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
I'm willing to assist in the translation process (sadly I can't do the technical stuff, only the linguistics).

Further, I shall certainly send feedback, should there be any.

I'll be away for a week, returning next Thursday, so if there's an appropriate/newer version - I'll install it.

Does this ROM support 3G? My cell provider has this capability.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
It does support 3g but It does not support video calling for now.

We may be able to find a dialer language pack predone if there was a version of the original rom with your language. Once I get it working I will see what I can find. Its a looooonnnnggg process trying to figure out what the issue with the dialer are. There is something in the prexisting reg keeping it from displaying properly. It involves removing one reg key at a time reinstalling and resetting. Sometimes hard resetting after a try.

Unless someone points out a major flaw I cant take care of with a fix cab in the next few days I dont have a new release in the works yet.

Unless we figure out the dialer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
It's OK, I have a Tilt 8900 w/o a camera, so I don't need video.

My workplace doesn't allow camera-enabled phones, so every time I want to replace my PDA, it's a painful process (not many alternatives).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Hi,

I'm back.

Has anything advanced on this?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
So far I have not found any bugs worthy of a new build. I have been working on custom manilla packages with the intention of possibly making a manilla version of the rom.

Even though I have accumulated over 1k downloads since v1 I have had basically no feedback to determine which direction I should take.

My original goal when I started was to have a highly stable rom that just works out of the box. I honestly think I accomplished that in the 3.7 build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Any news on the Opal dialer, regarding Hebrew and other languages?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] randomguy321:
Hey guys :)

Any comments on speed??? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
I have come to believe it is not easily possible to get the camera or the dialer to properly work on 19xxx roms. I will have to upgrade my next series to 20xxx base if I want to use these. I am still trying to see if I can find and port the dependencies to a 19xxx build and get it to boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Thanks.

I'll try out the current version over the weekend.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Several comments

Hi,

I downloaded and flashed the latest version.

1. The "welcome to the fabulous" etc splash - takes forever to go away.

2. Ditto for the liquid match screen.

3. IGO8 latest version won't install. It hangs at the "Languages" screen.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Ive noticed the long boot. I am trying to see if there is something causing it. I have Igo running on mine now so I am not overly sure what the issue is there. Have you installed anything else before IGO?

Let me know if you run across any other issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
No, IGO8 was the 1st app to be installed post flashing (due to the autorun in the 2577 folder).

I tried removing and reinstalling IGO8, didn't help.

I made a backup of the sd card (only I can't run it on another sd card, since it's legal, copy protected) and replace the files in the original card, and see whether it works. If not, I'll have to go to their offices next week.

Re the looong bootup process, do you have any idea whether it'd require a new ROM version? Because I don't want to flash and install everything, only to have to reinstall after a day or so.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
OK,

I don't know what the problem was, but it is now resolved and am proceeding with apps installations.

Will need input re slow startup screens, though.

Is it something that can be controlled via Schaps' Advanced Configuration?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
I just went through the whole kitchen and havent found any issues regarding boot. Im going to flash the base rom and see if it was always slow and check the startup folder. If at all possible I will fix it with a cab. I hate making a new version to fix one minor issue. Ill keep you posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
OK I was able to get the boot a good bit shorter. I changed both startup settings in advanced config under Splash screen to 10000 MS and deleted PSshutxp from the startup folder. Theres still more to it but this helped.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Did, the same, can't say I notice any difference.

Can you please export the appropriate settings and post them here?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
For the life of me I can't recall how to disable the 3G AT&T animation on startup using Schaps Advanced Config.

Can you pls remind me?

Also, re boot times, I tried changing the values using Schaps Advanced Config. tried differerent values. If anything, it just got worse...

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Disable it under HTC animation toggle animation to disabled
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Well on the upside I found what was causing the long boot. The bad side is it required a new build.

The newer version is faster booting and MUCH faster in operation.

I am going to test it for a few hours and then I will upload it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
OK

I'll wait and reflash if it's release early enought this weekend, otherwise I'll have to wait till the next weekend.

But regarding the current version, the battery consumption is not good (using NIKI 1.65.29.22).

I left my tilt with 100% battery about 3 hours ago, now it's 94%. the only possible load during thsi period were some apps that might have updated dta using GPRS. There were no phone calls and the PDA was turned off during this whole period.

During the past 3 weeks I've tested a myriad of ROMs and radios, so I can compare the results.

For me, the best combination was ROM: ATT_NATF_v3.2.5_ATT_Home and Radio: Niki 1.65.29.22. This gave me 84% after 7 hours of light usage, using the same apps and the same update intervals (for the appropriate apps, eg newsbreak, sbsh pocket weather, email accounts).

Is there a way to measure the battery consumption in the background, and create some sort of log fle, to be analyzed later?

I know that this in itself (the constant sampling of the battery, by a background app) would in itself consume battery, but it would be a known constant in the equation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
May I suggest the following for the new build, to load the following apps to ROM, and so free up RAM space later on (this is, after all, the limiting factor in every PPC):

1. netcfg app (Microsoft .net configuration utility).

2. HTC CONNECTION SETUP 1.5.34564.cab so that it is located in the Start-Connections.

3. Enable Band Page CAB.

4. WM6.1SMTPfix.CAB (ButtonBoy's WM6.1 SMTP server fix, for fixing the outgoing mail problem in WM6.1).

5. HTC Action Screen.

6. Clear Temp CAB.

7. Soft Reset CAB.

Possibly load Google Search and the latest Google Maps to ROM.

And possibly also PIM backup v2.8 (I believe it's the latest) and Schaps' Advanced Config v3.3.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Clear temp and advanced config 3.3 are already included.

I use psshutxp for soft reset.

Band page should have been enabled. I will look into why its not.

I have never used the smtp cab you mentioned. If you would happen to have it please attach it and I will take a look at it. What exactly does this do?

HTC connection setup is already in the connections tab. It is also the updated version you mentioned.

I have not used action screen in a long time. However since youve given me more feedback than anyone I will see what I can do ;)

Google updates google maps so often I have avoided cooking it in. I could set it to install during customization so it is removable.

There is a app to test battery but I cant remember what its called. I think alltheway or p1tater would know. I have never had luck with the radio you mentioned. I have had best results with 1.58.25.17. Results vary with radios so much by location I cant really give you too much advice on which one to try. I can only say give a couple a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Hmmm...

All those apps included and I missed them? Must be getting sloppy in my old age...

Possibly I looked for them in the wrong place (eg, in other ROMs I've tested, HTC Connection was in Start-Settings-Connections, and as far as I remember - this was not the case. But this is not significant).

Re the SMTP cab, it was created by an XDA member, to resolve a "critical" (as per MS) problem with WM6.1. Please see the following links, one gives keys to be added to registry manually, as well as the CAB. The other gives the formal MS explanation.

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/09/18/windows-mobile-6-1-smtp-issues

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2781172

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958639/en-us

The main thing for me is how to get most of the apps I use daily (or have installed in my Tilt) to ROM rather than RAM.

I've seen many "clean" ROMs, that are so stripped of functionality, that I need to spend a lot more time after ROM flashing, in order to install the apps I like. And this leads to less free RAM. Given, having about 40MB of free RAM after everything is installed is not bad at all, but I think that the correct solution is to have all the relevant apps in ROM.

On the other hand, it IS a problem (for the cook, at least) if an application is frequently updated (eg Google Maps).

By the way, how can the notifications sounds volume be lowered? eg when receiving email. It's very loud. I like the sound, but imagine if I'm in the middle of a meeting with my Division manager and suddenly.... I know that the notifications can be set up so that there's sound and/or vibration. But I couldn't find how to lower the sound volume.

Re battery life with this ROM, maybe things aren't so bad after all. I began the test yesterday at 13:50, with 100% battery, and now (07:30) the following day it's at 79%. But during this whole time, usage has been extremely light (ie - check email every hour for 2 accounts, update RSS news every 6 hours, update PocketWeather every 12 hours, no phone call at all, no GPS, and the usual load created by the Tilt being in standby). I'll be able to tell more about this tomorrow, after I get back to work, and besides all of the above, there'll also be many phone calls.

[edit] I'm aware that the radio performance is dependant upon many factors. I've tried about 8 radios for battery performance, GPS TTFF and subsequent fixes, phone reception, and the best for me have been this latest NIKI as well as the EMO radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Do you think you'll have the new version out today?

I'ts Saturday, so I have some free time.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
First I gotta say how much I appreciate the detailed feedback.

Connection setup should be exactly where you said. It also should have run immediately after the customization. If its not there that makes me wonder if the original upload didnt lose a few bytes and corrupt things a little.

Volume can be lowered as normal by clicking the speaker on the top bar or with SRSwowHD in Start Settings System at the bottom (just unclick enable)

Clear temp is in the programs Tools folder.

Ill read up on the smtp fix.

I am guessing It will take me a day or two to create all the needed packages. The new version I am running is much smoother and boot seems better. I would expect I will end up finishing Tomorrow if I dont run into any snags.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
My friend, YOU deserve all the credit, for yor hard work.

I meant - how can I lower the sound volume, just for the notifications?

Not all the phone sounds.

And another suggestion - Please merge the contents of the GPS and Navigation folders in Start-Programs. One contains the QGPS app, the other contains the GPS Test utility. After all, they're both used for Navigation. This way the user won't have to needlessly search for GPS-related apps (I know it's a breeze to move the shortcut from one folder to the other using the File explorer).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Any way you could give me a screenshot of your programs folder and your settings connection folder?

You should only have a GPS folder. The only gps app I cooked in was quickgps. If you installed the new google maps it creates a new folder. Perhaps I can customize the cabs needed by users to uilize the folders cooked in.

With the new version I think I will add a optional UC package to install secondary apps automatically for users that want them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Re Start-Programs folder, I always create additional folders in order to concentrate the apps per subject.

Basically, these folders are: Apps, Games, System, Tools, Navigation.

There're some folders that are automatically created during the installation process by some apps: SBSH Mobile software (PocketWeather), Spb Mobile Shell (obvious).

If I recall correctly, the following folders were created by the ROM installation: Tools, Apps, GPS, Internet, Multimedia, Navigation, Office Mobile.

BTW, I've never had the Navigation folder created by any app (you suggest as if Google Maps creates this folder).

The Start-Settings-Connections tab contains the following icons: Beam, Bluetooth, Connection Setup, Connections, Domain Enroll, GPRS Setting, USB to PC, Wifi, Wireless Lan, Wireless MAnager, WModem Modem.

I think all of these were created by the ROM installation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
I just have a GPS folder. However I could easily rename it to Navigation if this is more desireable.

The newest google maps creates a folder called Addons. I actually find it quite annoying lol. I will probably change the install folder to navigation if I offer it as part of the optional addon pack.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
These are good ideas.

The 1st one reminds me of an app I used long ago, which was used to install cabs, and allowed the user to define the folder where the app would be installed. Can't recall the name, though.

Re the 2nd idea, there's a tool which I currently use, for automated installation (Sashimi). The thing is, how can I get my apps to ROM rather than RAM? This would be like flashing a splash image, or a different radio, so it would go into ROM in addition to the apps already flashed there by your ROM, won't it? I don't have any experience in ROM cooking, so this could be completely off-base.

Is there any limitation to the type of apps that are loaded into ROM?

Theoretically, I could give a cook the list of apps that I use, have a "customized" ROM created, and then only register all those apps?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
I think that would be a good idea.

I've never seen this folder. Where exactly is it located? I have GM version 20.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Any app can be cooked in provided it can be turned into a package. I have run into a couple that cant.

So yes it is quite possible. However one thing to consider, any app udated often should probably not be cooked in.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Well, most of them ARE updated quite often...

But I understand the point.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Rom updated and version added
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
aruppenthal,

My PC crashed 2 days ago, I'm still trying to recover w/o formatting the HDD. Everything is always backed up, but I'm trying to avoid the hassle of reinstalling WINXP and all the SPs, Office, etc... :-(

So it seems I'll be able to install v4 only this weekend.

FYI, I've tried several radios with your ROM, and the EMO gives me the best GPS TTFF (1.65.29.22 second, a little worse), 1.65.29.22 gives me the best battery life (EMO a very close second) and 1.70.19.09 is the worst of all three on both counts (GPS TTFF is VERY bad).

I know that radio performance is region/cell provider dependant.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Thanks for the radio input. I will post it in the first post. I am hoping to add a cab pack for 4.0 to fix a few small issues. (ie... clear temp, band page etc.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Good idea.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tmasazo:
USING ROM: 3.57 RRE 3.1 WWE

RADIO: 1.65.24.36

just flashed yesterday from the hyper dragon firmware, i really like this firmware over the other. have experienced the power button back light flicker not a big deal. definitely has a very slow boot but hey how many times do you really need to reboot. does have a weird echo in the ear piece though when talking that i have not had in the past. thought it might be the volume to loud but nada still there. anyhow just want to throw in my two cents about it and if anyone is looking for a good firmware to go with this is one to try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Try a different radio. Ive had that echo problem with other roms before and a different radio always fixed it.

The v4 rom boots a bit faster. Most of the longer boot seems to be because everything is loading before the today screen comes up. The rom itself feels pretty good as far as speed goes. I dont foresee worrying to much about boot unless one of the other chefs can give me some insight on a easy way to fix it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rbonnerjr:
trying this out
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tmasazo:
try what out???? lol. anyhow i have been using skyfire as an IE but when i flashed to the hyper dragon it wouldnt load and now that i am using the standard firmware v4 still wont let me use it so i started using the MS IE lets me load websites but as soon as i select any link it tells me the connection is lost and i need to select it multiple times but i never see where i accuatly lost the connection. i checked the internet settings and it was set up with wap.voicestream.com (i have tmobile) so i changed it to internet2.voicestream.com which still connects but gives me the same issue. anyone else experience this. i am going to flash the radio to the one suggested in the first post. let me know thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
I have no issues at all with skyfires newest version. I dont know alot about t mobile connections. Do they use a proxy? Try running the disable hidden proxy cab attached and then run connection setup or your settings cab again. Hopefully this will get rid of your issue. If this does not fix the issue and you are otherwise happy with the rom I will dig deeper and find a solution for you.

I urge you all to leave some feedback.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Apostlemk:
Is there a cab to take away some of the manila options? i don't need the maps tab or the settings. thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
Sure install m2dc by mhepenguin. It will let you customize most options. Check out the skins thread in development and hacking if youd like to try a new skin.

If your new to manila I reccomend you check out the various threads in the development and hacking thread on how the customizer works. It will save you some headaches if you have any layout problems. I can help too if needed.