yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] a.fontenele:
Man... Thanks again for the help... I still have a few doubts that couldn't be solved by browsing this forum...

According to what I did to find out if my elfin still had the USPL, it was locked... I found out using "MTTY.exe" and "Snoopy.exe", and I couldn't unlock the CID through them... :confused:

So my question is: I found the original .nbh file for my rom, do you think I'll be able to flash it since I can't do it through the pc??

What about the IPL/SPL deal, can I flash it through micro SD too???

Are there other ways to CID unlock it? I crap my paints when think about what HTC technical assistance will say about my device...

The unsucceeded flash I tried was using V6.1 last version (http://rapidshare.com/files/1584103..._3.07.720.03_4.1.13.71_03.34.90_BLUE_Ship.exe) and my doubt is: If I have the latest or even an 2.28 USPL, do I have to worry about the rom I'm flashing??? And is it good to always have the latest IPL/USPL on my device because it will give me a better performance???

Sorry again for all my doubts man... I'm begging for help... :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Sorry a.fontenele, I'm hardly a specialist on SPL locking/unlocking. If you have an original ROM for you device, you should be able to flash it by SD and it should be pretty safe. If it is a complete ROM (Radio, SPL etc etc) then you will need to unlock it again because it should be back to the way it was when you purchased it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] a.fontenele:
No problem man... Thanks a lot! So far you've helped me too much...

By now I just have to pray to receive my "baby" as it was before...

...Working... LOL...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
hi trueg i tried your autoscroll fix. it reduces the autoscrolling problems but scrolling speed in programs & settings menu become slower. & one thing i can tell u that the 3.07.707.02 rom has less touchpanel problems than 3.07.720.03. so u can try the biotouch.dll of that rom.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Indeed, I noticed the difference in speed as well, although it is still within reason. The way that Opal behaves is still better overall, so I plan to test that a bit further.

I ran WinDIFF on 3.07.707.02 and 3.07.720.03 and according to it, they are almost identical except for StreamingMedia and a few carrier specific registry entries. Any differences you experience in TouchFlo, may simply be a placebo effect, since the files used in both ROMs are the same. :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Version 3 now available!

I have uploaded version 3 of my ROM series. In addition, it is now based on ROM 7.10.710.0.

I believe I have worked out all of the bugs (with help from all the great cooks here on XDA). Feel free to give it a try and let me know what you think. :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] seferismo:
FLASHED on ELF

STORAGE

total: 28.20 mb

in use: 23.40 mb

free: 4.80

PROGRAM

total: 47.67 mb

in use: 38.21 mb

free: 9.46

incase ELF user's want a peek of this ROM's memory
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Indeed, I wouldn't recommend this for the original ELF (64MB). This is based off the Official HTC Release 3.10.710.0. And just like the official release it uses a good chunk of system memory. Not a problem for the ELF Enhanced (ELFin), but not so good for the original ELF. :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] seferismo:
yup... can u make for ELF users also?

test it now... i change it to 4mb pp.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
I don't know. I don't have an ELF (64MB) to test on and there are already a few projects going on with lite versions. I have a few more tweaks I want to make for v4 and then I am hoping to have a final ROM that I can leave be. Cooking takes a lot of time, heck it can take up all of your time, just ask my wife :(.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] alx5962:
I just flashed my elfin with this rom (first time i flashed my phone!) and it works perfectly so thank you for your nice work !
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Cool, let me know if you run into any bugs. :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Bahaha... Hey bro, after a while you'll come to understand that most people don't care about our wives, kids, jobs, hobbies, etc. :D Just continue with what you're doing and go at your own pace. If you don't have time, then just choose not to answer all messages.. there are always nice people who can answer for you.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] norbalino:
Hi everybody !!!

I´m from Brazil and i recently bought a HTC touch P3452 (elfin), my first smartphone. Then, i´ve been looking for a wm6.1 official rom for it and i found your post. I have some questions before upgrade my device:

1. According my device information (down), can i upgrade it successfully?

2. What´s SPL?

3. What´s USPL?

4. I think tha my device is CID unlocked, will this rom work on it?

5. Resuming, will this rom increase and get faster my device or it doesn´t do much difference?

Sorry for my english.

Grateful now !!!

Thanks for your reply at: norbertosimioni@gmail.com

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My Device Information:

ROM Version: 2.20.710.2B WWE

ROM date: 10/02/07

RADIO version: 03.07.90

Protocol version: 4.1.13.51

ExtROM version: 2.20.710.102

RAM size: 128 MB

Flash size: 256 MB

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[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=406721
[Touch GSM ROM Development] seferismo:
yup you were right, you cannot please all the people...

looking forward for the lite version
[Touch GSM ROM Development] seferismo:
yup you can never please all...

looking forward for v4 with lite version
[Touch GSM ROM Development] alx5962:
i just notice a little bug, time changes and is wrong after I connect to activesync. so i need to disable time sync in activesync to have correct time on my phone.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Elf112:
Is the ROM has a touch cube?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] alx5962:
no cube, it's only manilla 2d now and in fact much more efficient than the old cube
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Elf112:
OK. Whether I could turn off Manilla 2d and install touch cube?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] seferismo:
if you do that i'll be more space on your fone... you have the manila plus the cube in it, i suggest you use this ROM and download cube, its customable and lite so you can install what you like...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=447394
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Sorry, seferismo you may have miss-understood. I will not be doing a Lite version. I don't have an ELF(64MB) to test on nor the time to do one up. There are several Lite ROMs by other cooks available, so you shouldn't have a problem finding something that suites your needs.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
alx5962, does the problem go away if you disable automatic time zone & clock?

Settings\Phone\Time Zones

'Automatic change time zone and clock.'

I disabled this by default in v4 to prevent ActiveSync from starting on boot.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
The problem with these "ultra-lite" ROMs is that by the time you finish installing all your required software, the device becomes slower than the standard ROM (because you have installed everything in the slower flash memory rather than in ROM). This is from my own experience with the UCE type of ROMs. -- But they're good for people who just want a minimal ROM with nothing extra.

TrueG, if you want to put out a "lighter" ROM, then just replace the dialer and remove the Album/Photo tabs. That's a quick and easy light ROM but it makes a difference :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
This doesn't necessarily help. There is a microsoft time zone fix that you have to install on your PC. Not the fault of the ROM.

Sorry, I don't remember what it was but you can search for it or look in the Onyx thread. It worked for my computer.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Thank you dsixda. I didn't have this problem when I sync'd with my PC and it is difficult to troubleshoot something you can't re-create. :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Here's the timezone fix for your computer:

August 2008 cumulative time zone update for Microsoft Windows operating systems
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
For fun I whipped up a version of TrueG.v3 with HTC Home instead of Manila2D. I was making up an OEM of HTC Home and thought I would give it a try. It looks pretty good and saves a few MB of space & memory. You can download it here if you wanted to try it out....

http://rapidshare.com/files/167062796/ELFin.TrueG.v3.HTC_Home.7z
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kwbr:
Good idea dsixda, i think i will test a different dialer in arwen. Thinking about poorly duck or the dialer from paul de groot which also looks nice.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Charusen:
OFF-TOPIC

I tried both the mentioned dialer's with Onyx and they messed up my elfin. Both of them are un-installable. In the end I had to do a hard reset. They both look great, but use with caution and be prepared for hard reset if you don't like them.

Best Wishes
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mrw!zard:
RE: Fantastic

thank you, this version is very clean, successfully rom'd my t-*obile md* touch 256mb ram with no problems.

- i network unlocked my phone with those two files u need enable rapi and the other one i cant remember, so now i can use any sim from any network.

- then cid unlocked my phone so i cud flash any rom on my device.

- then simply ran the RUU in the download, didnt even take 10 mins to flash.

- done on v1sta ult1mat3

this rom is actually faster than the orignial rom on there. so im glad i took the plunge in doing this.

thanks for your work, i've finally got there without bricking my device.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
That's wrong -- The dialer has issues if you install ON TOP of the Opal Phone dialer.. (ie. battery indicator is wrong and the phone options menu is still the old one), but it works fine if you have it built into the ROM (e.g. Onyx Jr.).
[Touch GSM ROM Development] marchese:
Wow, exactly what i was looking for. Thank You!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] regenerator:
Elfin Windows Mobile 6.1 RU

New Windows Mobile 6.1 RUSSIAN for Elfin

Download Link
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Rogers network?

I've only flashed my ROM once before to a BlueElves rom. After doing it I had to track down and install a file to re-enable all the Rogers network stuff. If I flash this rom will I have to do that again? Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
No you will not have to do that again. GPRS, MMS & SMS settings will set up automatically during customization.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Sorry to break it to you, but this is an old Russian WM 6.0 build from July 2007.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Flashing

Thanks trueg, last noob question I promise:

Since my phone is already unlocked (had to be to flash to BlueElves rom) do I just run the RomUpdateUtility you included or do I have to unlock again first, then run the updater? Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
If it is unlocked you can simply run the RomUpdateUtility included with my ROM.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Flashing

Thanks, I just got paranoid there for a second because when you run the rom flasher it screams at you not to do it if your screen isn't (blank) white, which mine is not. I'm assuming this is not relevant to phones that are already unlocked?

Edit: I guess I should have read this first:

7. After flashing a full ROM (containing a SPL on it) you'll overwrite USPL, so you'll need to repeat the USPL flashing process again.

I guess I have to USPL flash again, then run the updater you included?

Edit again: I checked the BlueElves rom thread, that rom lists that it does not include an SPL, so now I'm confused. Do I have to reflash the USPL or do I ignore the warning on the updater you included in your archive about my screen not being (blank)white and just run it anyway?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
OK, you can ignore the warning about flashing with a white screen assuming you have a USPL on your phone.

If you flash a ROM with an SPL included it will overwrite your existing SPL. Generally, none of the cooked ROMs on XDA include an SPL, they include just the OS.

Assuming you have a USPL on your device (see here), you do not need to unlock it every time, just the first time.

Another route is to install a Hard SPL... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=445666. A Hard-SPL prevents you from overwriting your SPL by accident.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Flashing

Thanks, that cleared it all up. I'm looking forward to trying out your rom.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
TrueG v4 Now Available

Cool. I also just uploaded version 4 if you like version 3. The following changes were made....

added an override to the Short Date Format (I didn't like MM/DD/YY)

removed WM TaskManager Link and replaced it with FdcSoft TaskManager 3.1 (I got tired of adding it after every flash)

removed Cyberon Voice Speed Dial (replaced it with MS Voice Command - which I really like)

updated GoogleMaps to 2.2.0.20

updated JBed to 20080912_5_1
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Alright, and congratulation for new release. Just a question to know if the date format can become "dddd dd MM yy" in order to show the week day (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday....)?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Yes it can (see attachment).

Remember though that the ShortDateFormat is used by everything including File Manager and Calender. If you make it long, it will make the date in other programs more difficult to read (see attachment).

Registry entry can be changed here...

<!-- SSDte Override -->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\nls\overrides" translation="filesystem" >
<parm name="SSDte" datatype="string" value="MMM d yy" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Where can I find the above file ? It seems not inside the registry table. Thanks for advice.

Sorry now I know it's inside the registry table, but what's the Manila2d.exe now you use in this ROM ? In the recent version, the day format just won't work, so can you offer me your Manila2d.exe file ? Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Problem flashing

Well,

I tried to flash your rom (ver 3). Everything looked fine until it started flashing. The screen went to the rainbow (red, green, blue, white). It says RUU in the upper right-hand corner. Then it says IPL 2.21.0002 and below that SPL 2.20.0000. The installer asked me to verify that I wanted to update to Image Version: 3.10./10.00, I clicked next, then next again. The progress bar sits at 0% for about 10 seconds, then dumps out with an ERROR [266] and says the update utility cannot get a response from the phone. As soon as I click exit, the phone screen changes to the grey screen with the progress bar and then just sits there. If I disconnect the phone and reboot it it goes right back to the rainbow screen again. Any ideas? Thanks.

Edit: Ok duh, I forgot you're not supposed to flash roms with a memory card installed. I took the card out, now the phone is getting 2% into the flash (both on versions 3 and 4) and claiming the images are corrupt due to invalid file size. Any ideas on that one?

Edit: Updated the IPL using the file from the link you posted, the flash took fine after that. Now the phone gets to the Windows Mobile Version 6.1 screen with the green title bar at the top with the little windows flag in the middle of it and then just hangs there.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Once you change the Short Date Format in Regional Settings it will make an entry for SSDte in \HKLM\nls\overrides.

Otherwise make a new value "SSDte" = "dddd dd MM yy". \HKLM\nls\overrides should already be there.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Sorry now I know it's inside the registry table, but what's the Manila2d.exe now you use in this ROM ? In the recent version, the day format just won't work, so can you offer me your Manila2d.exe file ? Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Got it

Ok, got it. Looks like I just had to wait quite a long time after the flash for it to do whatever it was doing. That was version 3, I guess I'll flash version 4 now and see what happens. Sorry for being such a neophyte.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Sounds like it flashed just fine. After flashing, it takes about 2 minutes before you get a prompt to tap on the screen and then it runs the calibration routine.

Tip: the lighter you touch the screen while calibrating the more responsive the screen will be while running. The touch pressure threshold is set by how hard you press the screen during calibration.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] betonoias:
what about a lite version more suitable for elf
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Success

You are correct, it took awhile to do whatever it was doing after the successful flash. I've got your version 4 installed, fantastic rom, you did a great job.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
I'm glad you like it, but honestly HTC did all of the work. I just customized a few things and changed around a few packages. :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
I use the Manila2D.exe found in the attachment.....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
Well I couldn't test it, but I may be able to whip up a build with a few things removed. What would you suggest I remove?

Manila2D

AdobePDF

HTC Album

Arcsoft MMS

HTC AudioBooster

HTC AudioManger

Bluetooth Explorer

GoogleMaps

JbedJava

MS Voice Command

Opera Mobile

HTC Phone Canvas

HTC Streaming Media

USBtoPC

HTC Voice Recorder

HTC Volume Control

YouTube Player

HTC Zip

I could also replace Manila2D with HTC Home and set the ELF Page Pool to 4MB instead of 8MB.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
JBed 20080912_5_1 OEM Package

For anyone interested, here is a copy of JBed 20080912_5_1 (OEM Package) for any cooks interested in integrating it into their ROMs. It was pulled from the latest Raphael AT&T ROM (HTC Fuze). It is mostly intact with a few registry changes to correct the font size (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=439989&page=2).
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kwbr:
Hi TrueG,

Thanks for this one!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Glitch in weather

trueg,

I'm not sure if this is something to do with your rom or my device, but when I scroll to the weather app the up arrow that's supposed to be directly above, for example, 1/2 or 1/3 or whatever is actually about 1/4" up and appears behind where it says "Last Update x hours ago" (specifically, it shows up behind the word "ago"). Any ideas? Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
I don't see an arrow on my screen. Do you see the same issue on the screenshot on the first page? My screen looks just like the screenshot.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Weather app

trueg,

If your app looks just like the screenshot you only have one city to select from for weather. Add a second city and you should get the up/down scroll arrows.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
OK, I see it. That is an issue with the version of Manila2D that I am using. The behavior would be the same with Onyx (as we use the same Manila2D). You can fix it, if you like, by replacing manila2d.exe with the original from 3.10.710.0 (attached).

- go to Settings\Today\Items and turn off TouchFLO. Then connect to PC and copy the new manila2d.exe to \Windows and restart TouchFLO.

You would be loosing the slide animation that occurs when you select different tabs (vs sliding your finger). The new manila2d.exe uses different fonts and changes the home screen date to MMM dd, yyyy (can not be changed). It also will not display e-mails with HTML content in the 4th tab, instead it just says "click here to read".

TrueG
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Boodah:
Hmmm...I think I'd rather have the other stuff. The misplaced arrow isn't a deal breaker, it's just annoying. Thanks for looking into it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
No worries. I'm glad it was an easy issue to explain. So far I haven't run into any major bugs with v4 so I'm happy.

I would love to get at the source code and change things (like manila2d.exe for example) to the way I like, but we have to make due with the files available to us.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
JBed 20080912_5_1 cab format

I had a few requests to make the above Jbed OEM into a cab, so enjoy! :D

note: I have not tested this, so use at your own risk!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] betonoias:
well i guess the major diference is the phone canvas ,the volume controler and you could also remove some tabs (using m2dc we can remove them but the files still remain in the windows folder) but the apps i think you should leave them because we end up installing them anyway
[Touch GSM ROM Development] WMguy:
This is a FANTASTIC and flawless rom. This put a major spark back into my Elfin. Thank you so much TrueG!!!:):)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] gagandeepbains:
hi trueg, this is excellent ROM, Keep it up, but could you launch a lite version with few tins like RSS hub, getting started, remote desktop, streaming media, windows live and opera removed, rather you can incorporate opera 4.2. This will help to free lot of memory.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] livesh:
awesome rom! managed to finally get it installed yesterday, although I'm having a few issues with the phone switching off. :-( it just randomly switches off without restarting. has anybody else had any similar issues?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Hejsana:
Corrupted Firmware

Thanks TrueG for your great work! I have just downloaded v4 from this link: http://rapidshare.com/files/167760358/ELFin.TrueG.v4.7z and extracted the archive. Than I started upgrading utility and it started flashing the phone. When 2% was done, phone display turned off by itself and I got the error message that the image file is corrupted. Then I've downloaded it from the second link: http://www.myunspace.com/?d=CF5EDE701 and got the same error. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks again!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] livesh:
I also had the same problem. read back a page or 2 on this thread, and there is some info on which USPL and IPL to install to get it to work. followed those instructions and it worked like a charm...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
No, I can't say that I have ever had that problem before. Anybody else? What IPL/SPL are you using? I'm using 3.10 myself and I had no problems with 3.07 or 2.27/2.28.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Hejsana:
livesh

Thanks a lot... I'll try to look for the solution.

I see the following sign on the display:

IPL: 1.13.0002

SPL 1.13.0000

What can I do with it?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] livesh:
I used 2.26. Will try upgrading to 2.27/8 today and see if that is any better. this rom is pure awesomeness... just hope i can get rid of that annoying shutdown.

thanks trueG
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dunlopkr:
Thanks TrueG. I agree with all that think this is a great ROM. I have one question, Do you know if it is possible to remove the YouTube shortcut and globe banner from the Internet tab in Manila 2D. I have tried deleting these items from the InternetPortal.xml files in both the Windows and the ApplicationData\Manila folders but this does not seem to do anything.

Cheers,

DunlopKR
[Touch GSM ROM Development] livesh:
Just an update - upgraded to 3.07 and all problems gone! even battery life has been extended. excellent rom!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
I'm glad your problems are fixed. I wonder if you would experience the same problems with 3.10 since this is based off of it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] livesh:
will upgrade to 3.10 when i get a chance and post my findings on here...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] imstr8trippin:
I just installed this, and it's wicked.

But, how do I change the clock? I've tried installing Manilla2D themes. The icons and background change, but never the clock?

Also, how do I get the number of tasks I have to show up on the Today screen? When ever I change the options through Settings, when I go back into the Settings, "Tasks" is always unclicked???
[Touch GSM ROM Development] trueg:
You don't want the globe icon? Do you not want the Internet tab or do you just want a page of bookmarks?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dunlopkr:
Ultimately, I just want a page of bookmarks with no globe. But I could live with just removing the YouTube link because I never use it.