yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajb303:
I've installed the drivers to my dual, and soft reset it. But just comes up to Launching TouchFlo 3D... then switches to tap here ot launch TouchFlo 3D...then goes to Launching TouchFlo 3D again. Its trying :) Is this common? I have Neon Touch Dual
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cfcbest:
ya. i also faced the same issue
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajb303:
oh thats good :) well, not good, but to know im not the only one. Im sqirming (spelling) around in my chair, cant wait :D I tried uninstalling then installing again, but couldnt find in my remove programs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
You Touch Dual users, this'll only work on the two new ROMs that have 3D drivers. This will not work on any other Dual ROMs.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ajb303:
Ya i read that on class action website, thanks :D I only dont know if they're for the niki or the neon
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
Herald

I am gonna try it on my Herald! :-) What the heck! I will let you know what happens!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cal-El:
Herald

Well... it works! There is alot of white and it is pretty slow but hopefull! Cant wait to see where this goes! Thank you everyone for your efforts, I am proud to be your guinea pig! LOL!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iceman667:
HELP

I have Elfin and i only see white squares and some text. how to fix it someone knows :$
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dielo:
can anybody post this in a zip file and hopefully not uploaded in rapidshre.coz its restricted here in our officce to download cab files and rapidshare is blocked. thanks...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] konanda:
Niki Roms that work TF3D ...

I'd checked and found that following HTC Dual roms with radio 1.65.29.22 are working TF3D but have to used HTC CA - Polaris Driver (http://www.htcclassaction.org/download/HTC-CA-Polaris-Drivers.cab) instead of HTC CA - Kaiser Driver.

- RUU Nike HTC WWE 2.09.405.1 Radio NikeMR 1.65.28.25 signed Ship

- RUU Nike ASIA WWE 2.12.707.2 Radio R 1.65.29.22 signed Ship (http://rapidshare.com/files/1508016...707.2_Radio_NikeMR_1.65.29.22_signed_Ship.exe)

HTC Touch Dual (AKA Nike)

ROM: HTC ASIA WWE 2.12.707.2 (WM6.1)

Radio: 1.65.29.22
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] meisterlampe2000:
To all Touch Dual users:

I got this working, but not with the CA-Kaiser drivers. I had to use Ca-Polaris instead :)

Believe me: It looks very nice but it´s extremly unstable and hell slow....:(

Edit: oops doublepost :( Sorry for that !

Hey Konanda: What about speed with your nike ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jokove:
will it work on universal????

will it work on universal????
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] konanda:
I used HTC Dimond Tweak (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398265) to get faster Manila. Quite acceptable for me. Only HTC-CA driver problem that Manila can't come up when I going to turn off the screen.... so I just doing backlight off and device lock only to my dual.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] edward_law17:
Me too i am use a TyTn II HyperDragon III OPAL + Manila2D ver

What can i do
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Hey guys,

i made a little mortscript for diplay off with one button. Just map the attached file to a button and you can power on/off with just one klick.

:D

Have fun
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] donjuon:
I use it with gigabyte i128 I found white square and it is very slow I'm very interesting to use it with all qvga devices :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
folks...if anyone is having trouble with the Music tab not working, i loaded the Audio Manager from the latest 2D build, and it works like a charm. I tried the Audio Manager from the update in the first post in this thread, but that alone did not work. I loaded this file on top of what I loaded already, and now it works great. Attached is the file from the update 19 of 2D build.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Diddy316:
Great Job Guys!!!

This Is Really Amazing Work!!!

I Thought I Had To Buy The Att Fuze, But Now I Dont =)!

Installed On My Tilt With The Fixes And It Looks Great...the 3d Animation Rocks!

It Is Pretty Fast N Smooth. It Does Take A Second To Load The Tabs When Clicked Or Scrolled To But Thats No Biggie.

The 3d Animation Is Fast When Scrolling Thru Messages And Photos/videos

The Only Bugs I Found:

-screen Will Not Turn Off (but Looks Like A Fix Was Found)

-the Start Menu Button Keeps Being Resetted To "today" Shortcut...have To Manually Change It Back To "start Menu" Under Settings/buttons

Have To Give It Up To Chainfire N His Crew And The Other Peeps Working Hard To Get This To Work On Our Devices!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
a little bit my friend, i noticed that if you turn on the display with my MortScript the Backlight is very low, when i'm at home i will try to fix

(maybe if ; else?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] schizo:
Just a thought, this qvga porting is very wonderful and promising. Once all drivers and dependencies solved 100% then it MAY run much smoother and less resource (processor/power) hungry in Kaiser than the original Diamond and Raphael do. Imagine this, QVGA has 1/4 pixels of VGA, so even when diamond/raphael has 25% more MHz speed, they has to render pixels 4 times as much than Kaiser. So if we're only talking linear proportion numbers, it has the POTENTIAL to run at least 3 times faster/smoother.

If only we could sort things out... GBU all developers!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Good news everyone! I have succeeded in loading a texture that was compressed on disk... :)

EDIT: In other words, I can store any data I want in a manila image file, and decompress the data when it's actually loaded. This may drastically reduce TF3D disk size, as well as make possible things like loading PNG's. I will create a new file format for this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
this is great news, you are the man ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
DELETED: Repeated question with non sense
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200895:
I don' know how to assign your file to a button: please explain me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
go here

http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&action=view&entry=125

download MortScript and install

then download this attatched (DisplayOffTF3D.mscr) file in the zip, extract and copy to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and past.

and now you can assign to a key on settings/Buttons

Big thanks to JeckyllHavok the creator of this file ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
I have a tytn II and I tried what you said, but it says "error when opening shortcut"

:-( can you help me out?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
Installed MortScript?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
Yes I did, maar kan jij me misschien helpen dat is toch een Nederlandse vlag dat ik zie? Or am I just talking jibberish now? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Thanks guys, but remember its not fully working,

tomorrow i will try to finish it wih the following features:

-Power on/off with one press

- if the phone goes automatically in standby, the script will recognize it and power of Tf3d

-the script will automatic recognize if Tf3d is running and just do the right action (to static know)

-i will try to contact A_C for make it working with the fantastic S2U2

(A_C great news to hear that you are at work again)

stay tuned...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Please tell me where do you have the shortcut of ThrottleManila.lnk if it is on programs or ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
xi my friend, if you relie this script to S2U2 is perfect :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
ok well to be honest, I don't know what throttlemanila.ink is :( I guess I need to have that?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] blazingwolf:
It's .lnk wit a lower case L not an i. Might make it easier to find. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
do you know where it should be located? That would be easier too :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Hey my friend,

i made the script for the L26 Test Rom from Laurentiu.

There the Throttle Manilla.lnk is in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Utilities

If your Throttle manilla.lnk is in another folder, just open my script in a text editor and change the path after "Run" to the folder where your throttlemanila.lnk is.

In the next version i will try to give you a choice screen with the time to standy and your path to throttle manila.lnk

Sorry for double posting, i post every thread in both posts: in the porting Manila 3d post and in Kaiser Rom development in the L26 Tf3d Post
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
I've edited the one you posted and the one i have posted is your's but linked to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs ;) that's where he is when you install the Manila cab
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whitealien:
link is installed by default with TF3D into \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and is meant to turn on/off manilla 3D. You need to edit mortscript to this location;

edit: hehe, few where much faster than me. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
i'm at work that's why lololol :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
really I can't seem to find the throttle manila. What should I do with the throttle manila.ink when I find it. I've just downloaded the tf3d from this "manila 3d porting". Sigh feeling very dumb right now
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
If you have the file, replace the path in the DisplayOff TF3D script with the past where your thorttle manila is. Then map the DisplayOff TF3D script to a hardware button.

Try to reinstall manila,

have you used the files from Update 10 from the first post?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
Ok so basicly I don't have throttlemanila.lnk, might it be possible to upload the file and then I could just copy paste it there?

That might be crazy talk, but I'm taking a long shot here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] timmy1980:
try togglemanila.lnk instead
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
OK.

Put the ToggleManila.exe in Windows folder then put DisplayOffTF3D.mscr on \Windows\Start Menu\Programs

and go to settings, Personal tab and Buttons then chose DisplayOffTF3D.mscr to a button
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow togglemanila.lnk :):) yeah I deleted that sadly is it possible for someone to upload that? I deleted that because I thought it didn't do anything, then I found the instructions later on... which explained what I had to do
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
is there a difference between the togglemanila.exe and the togglemanila.lnk

because I know I have the togglemanila.exe but not the lnk
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Current progress

Made some more progress today. I've been able to convert most of the manila images from QCT to CFC format (compressed). I say most, because it doesn't compress really tiny files that it would actually make bigger.

349 files, 7681024 -> 1228464, 16%

Shaving off 6.5mb of images. Doesn't seem to be any faster OR slower because of it.

However, with a lot more coding, this will be one of the major building blocks I can use to do high quality scaling. I still need to build another tool that can extract the rendered images from OpenGL ES itself (pixelperfect, no artefacts like the current decoding ways!), and save them to a PNG-like format.

When I have that, I can do high quality scaling on it, and save it to my own format, which can now be loaded as well (some more coding will be required here too, though). This will quite likely result in quite a nice speed increase.

Yay!

Now lets see if I can compress those pesky lua and xml files as well!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
just use this 2 files that is on the post and it works
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
In your Windows folder you have the Toggelmanila exe, just create a shortcut of it..

(don't know why i say throttle manila in the last posts...:eek:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
Great job as usually Chainfire
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
shortcut to where? don't worry after reading chainfire's post I think I would be voted must ignorant xda user ever, because I didn't understand one word he said there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
lol it was you and me :D

Chainfire@

You are realy a Master
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
put it in Windows\Start Menu\Programs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Yeah, it's late and i'm hungry :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
And i'm at work, and i have 3 PC's in front of me, some times i'm a litle bit confused :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
How do I make a shortcut for a pocket pc :( sigh, I know I must be frustrating
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
I "just" rezised 50-60% of the images to half the size. Cooked a rom, and its faster...but I need to resize all before I post the converted files here.

(probably not nessesary after CF does his magic)

cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Great news, and are you uploading the rom? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Do This!!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2781909&postcount=719
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
needs more work, and the downsized images needs to be optimized
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
BUT I already HAVE togglemanila.exe in windows/startmenu/programs

AND I already did assign displayofftf3d to a button, it just says "error shortcut" so I don't have the .lnk

I think THAT is why it's giving me such a hard time, so could you be so kind to upload the togglemanila.lnk so I don't have to re-install everything again?

It would be kindly appreciated :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
ok take that one and overwright the one (DisplayOffTF3D.mscr) in windows/startmenu/programs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
im writing an app to resize the images automatically - it only resizes images that would benefit from it and it choses the most optimal size - and itll work om anytheme
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mister_b:
ok thank you :) it doesn't really turn off the display? it just dims the backlight? that's what it's supposed to do?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
if you wait some seconds it realy turns off the phone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
How does it work? The first time it runs, it applies the change and the images remain resized from there on? Or it runs every time we enter tf3d? The 1st would be better, i think, because of load time.

Also, would it recognize theme changes and resize again?

What would you think it would be the best direction for themers?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
It's an app. You run it. It'll search through the defined folder (/Windows by default) and it'll covert the files and save them in another defined folder (/Manilla by default).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
the idea of the app is to give QVGA users the benefit of smaller images but still support VGA themes. so for themers - keep doing what uve been doing.

and yeh, it does the first - the main reason u can chose to output to another folder at moment is so its non destructive during testing
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
hmm, sounds to good to be true :D hehe, but I hope that you make the "original" fullsize images deletable after they have been resized and backed up :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JamminJaguar:
I couldn't get this to work on my Polaris. I had to re-flash the ROM. Worked out well though I suppose, I now have HTC's offical WM6.1 instead of 6.0.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
What are you talking about? My Original fullsize images are deletable. :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Juan83:
Just tried TouchFlo 3D on Samsung Omnia and it worked but very bad lol
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
first off, this is aweseom, and i can't wait until it's out of beta.

however, this brought my tilt to its knees after a hard reset and install.

also, not that this matters much, but it completely crashed my buddys dell axim v51 (i told him not to do it, but he thought it was sooo cool)

Thanks

Val
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dielo:
hey same here...same situation but glad its possible. im even using older ppc than herald:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
and now uve got 6.1 its more likely to work ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] coincoinlapin:
I just wanted to say thank you for your hard work people. Htcclassaction.org's driver pointed me to this thread. Which introduced me to manilla 3D: for the first time I see why those working 3D drivers could be useful/cool! Isn't is time we gave someone the cash we promised for those drivers? Even if they're not finished they would provide a huge incentive not to bail out on us or the project :D

On a sidenote, Manilla 3D is ALMOST useable, but it made me discover manilla 2D, which IS useable right now. Thanks for that too.

later
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
Ok, so, each time we apply a new VGA theme throuch a diamond theme app, we would have to run the VGA2QVGA app... Any chance to combine bouth automatically?

TF3d actually runs preatty smooth on my device. It is only a bit slow just after a soft reset and in weather menu. Picture tab takes its time to load, has an initial lag to run the transition effect, but runs smooth there hence.

I did notice some improvement uppon applying the current fixes.

Only bugs:

-Power button bug

-Some (not all) white pictures on album tab

-small fonts (font patch didn't fix it)

Thanks for all the help!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Hi my friend i think that after -Power button bug solved, Manila3D is usable, in my opinion :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
try itje@ m3d rom it work's like a charm, not complet working 3D but dam fast
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
I have the power button fix files, but I have to spend a little more time to put it to work, like with landscape mode. Something about mortscript...

Maybe later.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Back in Business

Hi there,

some hours to wait and i will release the new PowerScreenOff script.

It recognizes if Tf3d is running or not, and will do the needed action to turn off or on the screen. The bug that after wakeing up the screen the backlight is low is fixed to.

This script is for mapping on a key of your choice.

Then there will be a second script which acts like the display off function of Windows. You need to shut of the windows function for automaticaly turn the display off after some time together with manila.

Stay tuned:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Hey folks,

here is the fully working version of my Dispay on/off Script for TF3D.

It doesn't matter where the toggle Manila.lnk is, caus it uses the exe in windows folder, so ot should work for everyone with Manila installed.

Requirements:

Mort Script

The TF3d-Display off anywhere in your \Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder and map it to a key of your choice.

I will try to get the auto display off script working today.

Features:

-recognizes weather Manila is running or not

-low backlight bug after power on diplay solved

-faster than the first version

-if you want you can delete the togle manila .lnk from your start menu, caus it uses the exe in Windows folder.

Voila
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Thanks man ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
you guys are making my day :)

Aren't you from my famely lol

my last name is Pereira
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
TF3D QVGA - Release #2

TF3D QVGA - Release #2

Well here it is, the 2nd release of TF3D QVGA.

It does not include all the patches and such posted here, but it makes a few of them irrelevant and it does include one of them.

Changes

- Proxy DLL contains some new tricks, such as being able to load compressed QTC textures (CFC format)

- 280 images have been rescaled to QVGA resolution (the others cannot be scaled without causing issues)

- All images have been compressed into CFC format, aside from a few tiny ones that compression would actually make bigger

- Includes pcarvalho's font fix

These changes together make TF3D a bit more responsive, as well as dropping the installation size from ~ 17mb to ~ 10mb.

Rescaling details

This part is only for those who are truely interested in how it was done, I know some of you are, which is why I'm posting it.

Note that I did not use Manila Editor or similar tools, are their decoding and encoding of these images is not quite perfect (yet).

QTC file format is based on ATC, and with some trickery (and coding), you can convert them back to ATC.

After doing this, I used AMD's "Compressonator" to convert the textures to PNG.

After this was done, I wrote an application that took the PNG's, and if 32x32 or larger would halve them in size (some twice, so they are 128x128 or smaller, as the 3D chip doesn't like larger textures). The rescaling was done using the Lanczos3 algorithm, which is generally considered to be one of the best, if not the best algorithms for downscaling.

These rescaled PNG images were then saved upside down, because for some reason "Compressonator" would flip them over when converting the PNG's back to ATC.

Then they were converted back to QTC, this again took some trickery as the ATC and QTC format are not completely compatible. I ended up transplanting parts of the original QTC file's header to the rescaled file. This worked.

Last but not least, all images, those not rescaled and those that were, were run through the CFC compressor, to reduce filesize even more.

Note that these images were not all hand-checked, I'll leave it to the rest of you to fix some of the images that may look a bit strange.

Download

http://www.htcclassaction.org/download/TF3D-QVGA.cab

(note that this file replaced the first release on the webserver)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] itje:
wooowwww

this is great

thx CF