yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
if you are using my optimisation cabs (which arent needed anymore) then youre internet globe indeed will look pants

if chainfire has done the same as me when optimising ( i would assume he has ) itll suffer the same issues. i have an idea for fixing this - but its more HTC's fault - the globe graphic is huge - but most of it is empty - meaning to optimise it you have to scale it by many factors and then its massively zoom. i do have an idea of how to make this better, will try this evening.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
Hey for you guys resizing the textures...

The max limit for our OpenGL-ES is 1024x1024. According to the docs in the KaiserGL thread, 128x64 is about the biggest textures can get before FPS starts dropping because the data spills out of the texture cache. I've found 128x128 the biggest possible for minimal slowdown on 4 animated objects totaling 40 polygons where all are using the same texture. (Btw, the Imageon doesn't hit its efficiency peak until you throw at least 90+ polygons at it per draw command. API overhead vs draw efficiency.)

This means feel free to resize to 256x256 or whatnot as long as it's a power of 2 and not a texture used for heavy animation. Also, it's okay for textures to be the max 1024x1024 as long as the actual chunk of it being used (*SubImage) is closer to 128x128, but don't limit sizes to 128x128 as a blanket rule.

Also, a lot of the size restrictions are the standard 16-bit pixel data, and go out of the window when you're also using texture compression. I think ATI_TC can reach 4-bits per pixel efficiency.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
thats rather handy to know! weve deffo proved that 256x256 is slower than 128x128 , but the image in question is an annoying res, something like 1024x128 - and the image is only 128x128 or along those lines.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] galmok:
How do I get the browser part to work? I can click the globe but nothing happens. Also, when clicking YouTube, I get an error saying that Youtube.exe isn't found or signed. Looks like I miss something (Opera is installed).

Also, I don't seem to see any of my approaching calendar appointments anywhere. Should I do that?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djboo:
im fairly sure uve gotta have opera in \windows\ and its a very specific version - youtube - check the manila2d forums for help on that beast. and calendar stuff - on clock screen swipe your finger up
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] galmok:
Opera: Ok. I'll suffer a bit more then. :-P

Calendar: I have tried to swipe the clock screen up, but even though it is friday today, it doesn't show the entries for monday. Is this how HTC has chosen to do it? If so, meh, no use for me. :-/

And last a bug report: The ToggleManila shortcut is not created correcly. It points to "\Program Files\ToggleManila\ToggleManila.exe" which is only correct for english windows mobiles. My wm is localized into Danish and "Program files" is called "Programmer". ToggleManila itself is installed the correct place, though.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] galmok:
Hmm ToggleManila does nothing? I run it but there is no visible change anywhere...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tbarn:
Distortions on a Blue Angel (perhaps due to a bad OpenGL ES software driver?), therefore I wouldn't call it usable in the current state. But in essence, it DOES work, and I find that remarkable.

See my short report here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2788456#post2788456
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vj4:
just flashed l26 release rom with this is cool but no use yet lol gunna flash an older one and install my self. one question i have is i couldnt find any english (uk) citys any reason? and how do i add them? all was other wise ok except after loading i can only play with the tabs once then nothing but dus something funny with the clock on top left of screen will play more with new build and see if this is fixed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] galmok:
Hmm after quitting TF3D manually and using ToggleManila to start it, TM is able to stop it again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
I dunno, are there a lot of devices that use the GoForce 5500 at 320x240 ? Can you confirm for me that the TF3D from this thread you tried is fast ? (even though you see a lot of white images)

Fixing the white images would be a matter of converting the ATC textures to RGBA and storing them inside the format just like im storing the compressed textures inside now. I think it can be done. There are a few weird images though, not sure how those need to be converted.

Hmm indeed, the globe image was downscaled once too many. I though the largest image converted was 256x256, my bad, the globe images is 512x256, which means it got downscaled to 128x64. I'll fix this one.

Also, FYI, the ATC textures are not SubImage'd AFAIK, only the RGBA textures are. ATC can be 4 bpp, but the 'explicit alpha' variant used by TF3D is 8 bpp. There's also another variant used for about 20 images, I haven't rescaled those as I haven't figured out how that format works (time investment <-> gain == not worth it?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Has anyona allready tried to creat themes for tf3d qvga?

and if yes, please tell me how..

Thanks:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Fixed globe for internet tab attached.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Exactly the same as for VGA version :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Really, sweeeeeeeet,

i was asking cause yesterday you told that
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vgalindez:
Please help

OK guys, could anyone please tell me what am I doing wrong or why TF3D doesn't work on my Kaiser?

Here's my Kaiser description:

ROM: WM 6.1 Pro CE OS 5.2.19188 (Build 19188.1.0.0)

ROM version: 3.03.405.0 WWE

Radio version: 1.64.06.04

Protocol version: 25.70.40.02H

I have hard reset it, install the openGL drivers, install TF3D, restart, then TF3D won't start, it just keeps trying to launch with no luck.

What am I doing wrong or what do I need? Thanks in advance for the help.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jakub_w:
please let us know how exactly you got it working properly WDM?

screenshots??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Do you use a sock rom, or a cooked one?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
You CAN just use VGA images. However, you can also rescale them and add extra compression to make them smaller. For images to be included in the TF3D QVGA distribution, the latter is preferred. But VGA images will work fine too :)

Are you running the official ROM ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Hm...

i extracted the files from the cab of yesterday to a folder and open it in manila editor.

But it shows me just very funny colored pixels, and not the pictures
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Petulinek:
I try 3 ROMs on my Polaris and TF3D works good. But only if display is powered. After display power off with power buton or mortscript fix, phone hangs :mad:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jlavoie:
Try a rom with a newer build then 19188.1.0.0

try hyperdragon III, its fast and tf3d works with it

ROM 5.2.19581 6.1 pro

Radio Version 1.65.24.36

Protocol version 25.94.40.06w
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
You need to use the PNG's from the packs I posted... inside the CAB the images are compressed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Boy, the support here is faster as in the most commercial companys

Thanks:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Attached fix for 'dotted line' on home tab.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mreaglejr:
thanks, looks much better ;)

mm the dotted line fix is "remove" or "fix"?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
It removes it. I have had it really fixed a few days ago, but that broke other textures.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] secoseco:
Hi

Thx for the good work, big step from V1 to V2, sorry not step, it's jump

90% stable version, smooth and faster, but can't use it as default home screen for the issues of shutoff the screen related for 3D driver

test it in Cruise with M-Amine 2.0 RTM SP3 rom without making hard reset

I think that you are very closer to final release at least for devices have 3D driver

thx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
So just for dummys like me:o

I have to open the manila files of the cab with manila editor and replace them with the modifies files, right?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
So and the last question for today

(after that i write a the tutorial)

i would like to use a analog cllock from vga version, will i just have to resize them and replace the files?

I mean will it be on the correct position then?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] encephalon9986:
do you just place the driver files in the windows folder?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Unfortunately, I have to leave for the weekend, so my tool and the tutorial on how to do high quality conversion and such shall have to wait til sunday or later.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] huggy_72:
Good weekend and thank you very much for your hard "impossible" work

we have a new Kaiser now!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
You're running one of them leaked/hybrid WM6.0 roms. The official WM6.1 for the Kaiser starts at 3.28 as stated on the HTC-CA site.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
Not cool WDM not cool......:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] saulo.almeida:
display off, audio manager_eng

how i power off display?

in the audio tab apper this messager: "audiomenager_eng cant be opened", i install diamond audio manager but the error message continue
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
With all due respect. You better read this topic or use the search button. All this has been mentioned before in this topic and (temporarily) solutions have been given.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] faifai9394:
Or by using a hammer, it should turn it off
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Petulinek:
I read this thread too... And solution for display power off isnt good, it doesnt work. I tried it on 3 miscellaneous cooked ROMs - M-Amines, Touch IT and c_shekhar...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
It's not good. True! But it's the best thing around at the moment. You need to wait for updated drivers for the best solution. Until then the only option is the given solution.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] saulo.almeida:
i find solution to display problem. but the audiomanager tab still with error message. this forum solution (install diamond audio manager) doesnt work. other sugestion?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
This should work.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2766889&postcount=492
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] saulo.almeida:
thanks for help
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
You're welcome. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] _fm:
Thanks for the UPDATE Djboo,.

I think you should have another video preview for this man !!

It looks faster tahn your video,. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Whosdaman:
I can't tell you right now, but i got the images working.....the commands don't
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
For those wondering how to add the calendar tab.

-Disable TouchFlo3D

-Install Calendar.cab

-Enable TouchFlo3D

-Have fun.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] phantomy2g:
Ive been running this on att tilt kais 100 for about the last 2 hours using garmin dk 4.4c and oct. 9 driver and i must say I am impressed and since my phone doesnt really have any business use at the moment i wouldnt see a problem with day to day use as a "regular" cellphone or this super severe battery drain job well done
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] phantomy2g:
did u mean to post this here?

was just noticing u are using throttle launcher is all....

Edit: Ran the cab and works nicely thanks sorry for questioning
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
huh? yeah why?..whats wrong with it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bigdd15:
Touch Panel Displaced on KS20 Official Unbranded Traditional Chinese 10C ROM

I'm using KS20, Official Unbranded Traditional Chinese

(Taiwan) 10C ROM , it works as said on the first post.

But the touch panel is severely displaced, so when I'm trying to use the bar

below to switch functions , it won't work.

(For example when I'm on the clock page, I hit the bar to enter "Contacts",

but rather than entering "Contacts" it thinks that I've clicked the clock

and entered the alarm settings.) This problem is making TOUCHFLO3D unusable

on Chinese Versions ROM.

Any solution of this KS20 Multi-Language support problem?:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
Cool. Thanks. I like this one. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jakub_w:
argh!!

please give a hint or something! is it using vincent drivers? is it software drivers at all or did you make/modify hardware drivers??

is it working fast??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Could anyone please tell me how to use clocks from vga version for qvga?

the names aren't the same
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samme:
Does this fork for the Xperia ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mbarvian:
no sir,

this is for qvga devices, like the kaiser of elfin. If you wanted Manila 3D I suggest you wait for a device like the Touch HD to come out, which has the same resolution as the Xperia. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
Comm Manager Tab

In the spirit of additions...saw this late yesterday and tried it. works nice...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2773034&postcount=98
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anryl:
i got manila3d running with manila2d landscape and for the switch display off just script without togle.exe

switching off display with button 6 and power button after

toggle m3d and htchome button 6 longpress

manila landscape modified mbarvian scripts

changed script to make sure landscape is on and off in right place and starts manila properly [19-10]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
Call History Tab

Also found this...testing now...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=410180
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
so does this mean we can run 3D on a landscape enabled device?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
it works because i have it :]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
great...sorry if this was a double post...didn't see a "call history" post before.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
No your fine, it hasn't been posted before
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samme:
cant i just use a manila 3d with a vga screen patch for the x1? sorry for being stupid :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] starbase64:
Hi,

this work with VGA Version?

wfg

starbase64
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Yes.

Transparent clock anyone? I still haven't figured out what numbers to use
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rocky200:
How many memories ROM takes away 3d???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] konanda:
Working YouTube on Internet Tab

For those who want to work YouTube on Internet Tab:

- install this cab (http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=117101&d=1222680049)

- as youtube app is using windows media player....run the windows media player and check up the options, there is a "full screen option" and default is "never", so change it to "always" and the youtube app will work well in full screen mode.

HTC Touch Dual (AKA Nike)

ROM: HTC ASIA WWE 2.12.707.2 (WM6.1)

Radio: 1.65.29.22
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mehanic01:
which version of task manager are you guys running, i put the diamond version on it works but the icon is messed up does someone have a qvga version of that task manager?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] digitalninjas:
Off-topic but why does it say NISMO and "GOT BOOST?" when you have a Merc S and Diablo pictured :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Those aren't my cars and it's not a diablo, it's a murcielago and a mclaren. Those cars belong to my uncle. I own a 350z. I'm a street racer :]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Cool, I'll check out the patches people made and see if they can be included. Also that tutorial I promised coming soon :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] GODZSON:
TouchFLO3D

Looking forward to the fellowship in getting this up and working, to DJBoo and every one contributing thank you for your creativity and hard work..

anxious to getting this up and running on my Sprint Touch Phone..

God Bless
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mchapman007:
+1 for the people working on this.. I plan on getting the Fuze when it comes out but my wife is getting my Tilt and wants this on it....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NeoS:
Well, won't we just get it working on the devices on which it currently runs? :)

Then we'll have it working on all other devices :P That way, you'll get a fully working version at the time it comes for your device.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samme:
want it badly for the Xperia :) Its the only reason why im slightly looking at the HTC touch pro :) Nah but im satisfied with my phone but as evererybody (almost) i love the touchflo 3d user interface and with the x1 speccs i should be able to run it without problems dont you think?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
do u have a sony ericsson xperia x1? If so, of course :]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samme:
yeah but the problem i guess is the screensize? :/
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
If it's VGA, then you dont have to worry about it. I know someone out there is going to make it for VGA devices just like they did for manila2D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samme:
its WVGA i think 800x260 or something like that 800x420 maybe i dont know haha
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
If I recall correctly, it has the same res as the Touch HD, so you may be able to port Touch HD's manila to it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
Third release

Third release

Here's the third public release. This is pretty much a maintenance release, wrapping some stuff up, nothing really new. See the changelog.

Changelog

- Graphics Fixed dotted line image (white dot top-left of the text on the home tab) (EDIT: Read fixed == removed!)

- Graphics Fixed incorrectly scaled globe on the internet tab (looks much better now :))

- ToggleManila Fixed the shortcut for non-English devices

- CAB Broke the CAB into two: base files in English-US and additional language pack. This because the non-english language files take about 3 MB of storage space, but more importantly, are spread out over 484 files (which is almost half of all manila files). This split will make (un)installation much faster as well as have less impact on your phone's performance when not running TF3D (and it's not cooked in). If you are not running an English / US / WWE ROM and still want your language, get the language pack as well. The base CAB, installed, is now 8 MB, from 17 MB originally.

Download

TF3D QVGA

TF3D QVGA Language Pack
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
Thanks bro.. downloading

EDIT: Is it possible to have the dotted lines? I've tried to do it but no luck
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
Why would you want the dotted lines? Or do you mean the dotted lines there when you are looking at the text in the sms tab and not there when you are scrolling through the different messages?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
I did manage to get them working at some point, but this messed up other textures - it's a no-go.

We don't want 'em, they mess things up - before you couldn't see them either, but they were responsible for some odd orphan pixel here and there. The 'fix' removes them. You don't see anything more, but you see image corruption less.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
You still haven't figured out the white pictures? the diamond album doesn't work

Thanks for your hard work..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
Hmm? What device do you have? On my at&t tilt the diamond album worked after i had an opal album installed. I had opal album built into the rom, then installed the diamond album over it so it seemed to work. Using L26's TF3D Test rom.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fever13:
diamond album works for me ... white pictures problem solved
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
I mean it works good i just get 4 pictures in blank out of 18 pictures. I've tried installing the diamond album but it always fails.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hallbin:
Can Hermes run the 3rd version？
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Kraize:
That's a bit vague.

Can hermes run Manilla 3d?

or

Can hermes run the 3rd update?

or Can hermes run the 3rd version of Manilla???

:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hallbin:
It means "Can Hermes run the 3rd update of Manila 3d？" and "Does hermes need driver to run it?"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
it might, but probably slow as hell
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nsfx:
Wouldn't work on an atom life :P tried for fun.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CraZyLiLbOy:
For now it only works for KS20, POLARIS, NIKE, KAISER.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SZL18:
screen freeze

how to solve that the phone screen going to freeze after looking photo through photo & video tab, can we force the HTC Album close instead of its only minimize on system when push the back arrow button. correct me if I'm wrong. thank you in advance.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Juan83:
You got it working on you Omnia?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Juan83:
Just wanna ask, Does anybody know a good program that can free up space on your WinMob based phone?

An uninstall program or so?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pazookie:
any workaround for the diamond album (when insalled to fix white picute issue) bwing able to rotate picutres? You cant swipe in a 90 degree motion it must be hardcoded for the accelerometer...any help appreciated?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] herr der 4 ringe:
Hy,

first of all i wanna say: great work!!:) I run the second update on my Kaiser and it runs very good. I only have two problems (i think these wasn't reported):

1) When a call comes in, i see the tab with call infomations only a half second, so i can't see how is calling me.

2) When i touch on the missing calls tab in the start page, i also the the "missing call list" for "milliseconds". I have to touch a second time to enter the list.

...does anybody have also this issues?

I love this manila3D! If the 2 issues are fixed, i can marry manila :D

greets Andy