yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcostanza4:
Installed Version 10 with all the fixes on my Nike

TF3D is amazing and worth the work and wait over TF2D.

I was expecting this thing to crawl but you guys have it moving pretty fast (Guessing 10-15 FPS). and the graphics resizing/redraw is moving along pretty well. All soft key buttons work great with new TF3D interface. I only tested all functions for about 45minutes and had to get back to a full time phone but you guys are so close. Keep up the good work.

You have come along way and overall just needs some graphic adjustments, speed optimization, and a few hangs to be worked out. I know this is easier said than done and I can't imagine the amount of work you put behind this to get this far but I am rooting for you guys.

Here was my test if it helps in developemnt and others wanting to try it on thier NIKEs:

Rom: NIKI Lite Project V2.1 - 3D Hardware Accelerated with HTCCA Drivers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=435153

Radio: RUU Nike Radio 1.71.09.01K

SPL: Experimental HardSpl1.22

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2778832&postcount=429
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I only added the applications listed for the fixes in the TF3D thread and the ones necessary in the ROM for 3D to work. All the tabs work for me in functionality and I'll list where it hang if it helps. All the animations and graphics move nicely at the mentioned framerate and look great. Fonts and graphics in TF3D are a little rough looking but are getting close. I did the font fix and is encridibly better than before but does not have the cleanliness of TF2D.

Home:

Functions great, clock moves all functions work, just a few screen draw issues that need to be resolved. I have some floating pixel artifacts to the left of the call history and calendar items.

Pictures:

3D scrolling with pictures and movies works great, Pictures open but can't zoom and backing out of the picture freezes the phone. Album won't open and freezes the phone as well.

I hope my information will help in further development and is taken as a positive look at fixing problems. I really appreciate the hard work and only mean to assist in trouble shooting. Thanks for everyones hard work.

Jcostanza4
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pdgpereira:
Alota Pereiras goin about... But possible :)

Will Try the new M3d.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
lol fresh flash, fresh M3D, let's VRUUUMMMMM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Boy,

it's faster than ever before...:eek:

nice work
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
A little question,

how could i change the background and the clock of tf3d?

The tools from Diamond section are created for vga screens...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
you can do with this tool ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=414861
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
jeckyll...i have been playing around with customizing without using the diamond tweak tools and found a couple of helpful links. here is one that will allow you to download a cab to change background on all tabs, and remove the curtains - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=436301

here are a couple of other threads that I have been looking at. some cabs are successful, some are not. just try the ones that you like to see if they work. about 80% of the ones that I have tried have been good. of course, vga vs. qvga will sometimes play a role. good luck:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=419799

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=420887
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Juhu, tools to play, thanks my friends, together with the new manila version of chainfire it's like christmas time...

Will post my results here..:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] morpheuszg:
Well, tf3d starts but the textures aren't being loaded on both of my devices(HTC Himalaya and MWg Atom Life). So everything is white, only the font is visible. Maybe i need better OpenGL drivers :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
Update #2 runs really fast on my Kaiser. I'm using the Hyperdragen III ROM (6 oct. version). The TF3D-display-off script doesn't work for me. The dims the backlight, but everything is fully readable and accessible.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
loaded great, and definitely is faster and more responsive. however, i have the white dots again...should I run the cab you posted before to fix the new version?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bjoern-baer:
.... doesn't work for me either.

First I installed Mortscript and then I clicked on "TF3D-DisplayOFF.mscr". Same result as above.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sonfire:
I'm actually also running into the white pictures again in the album, even with the diamond album installed that fixed it before.

It does seem faster though.

One other potential big issue, is it just me, or is the togglemanilla.exe not working anymore. Mines not doing anything when I hit it, that might be why the script no longer functions.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
Copy the ToggleManila.exe that is in Program Files\ToggleManila\ and past to Windows folder and TF3D-display-off script works ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pirlone:
i think there is wrong path to togglemanila.exe in script file. it should be "\Program Files\ToggleManila\ToggleManila.exe".

just edit .scr file and replace with correct path.

rgs,

pirlone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Syd159:
Works like a charm... thanks. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] faifai9394:
For all you developers, you guys rock.

I have installed the first release and all the later cabs, works good on the first boot, after 20 second screen keep blinking and freeze. After a softreset, it will still freeze. Not here to complaint though, just want to give thumbs up for you guys. This is what we suppose to get from the 600 dollars we spent.

I have Offcial HTC 6.1 with the htcclassaction driver
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bjoern-baer:
Thanks, the script works now but after restart TF3D is shut off and you have to start it all over again (Start -> Settings ...)

:confused::confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sonfire:
Good call mate. That fixed mine. I needed to close it, and open it via the script or toggle manilla.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Juan83:
Where is the SW or the Cab file?

Cant see it anywhere.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wonder12:
Can't wait to see it.. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Juan83:
I believe you can use it, but it wont be covering the whole screen of your phone.

Does anyone know if there is any file out yet?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] blazingwolf:
Sure, you won't be able to use it though. Images are twice the size. Make sense?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] blazingwolf:
Great! Now, how about cluing us in so that we can get it working on our devices also. No need to be secretive about it as you will get the credit you deserve.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] clany:
I can be the tester...

Best regards.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
for now...proof of concept ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfqA4zO1f6I

will not put it out yet cause its incomplete...and i dont know what files are needed to port it to other devices...pacience please...for instance audio tab doesn't work...anyone know how to...decompile mode9 files make changes and recompile? that is one of the next steps...anyone?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kristoff_sz:
Dude... this works so smooth :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
wow, amazing. Do u have any eta on the release?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nsfx:
Wow great stuff on the 3D. Carry on the great work! can't wait till its released.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
hard to say since i'm trying to find out how to open the new mode9 files where the viewport size is...as soon as that it found things will start going fast ;)

for now i'm trying to make audio manager work and waiting for an answer about mode9 decompilation/edition/recompilation...

only time will tell...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] imfloflo:
To bad can see youtube video at work :(

any small .wmv .avi to add ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedyp:
I really can't wait. Awesome!!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
Ohh, too sad u cant see that. :p (sorry I couldnt resist, it looks really nice)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
In situations like this I wish I had studied programing. Keep up the good work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
i didn't study programing and that didn't stop me :D

thanks ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mikulec:
OK,ok, I should say that I would like to help you if I were not a complete noob in programing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcarvalho:
you need xmls to convert to QVGA but the problem for now is that they are compiled...one needs to know how to reverse them to get the xml as before and then recompile them again to be used...i've been reading alot...but have still no answer :(

but its a question of time ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ameet:
BEAUTIFUL work pc :D Any secret ETA on the beta testing? :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
For any reason the display off script only works if mapped to a button (at least for me) if i click on the file it doesn't work.

if anyone had a problem with the script try to map it on a button, and post your results for bug fixing..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
This is because these images have not been hand-retouched yet. I will release a pack of PNG's soon with all the textures I modified, so people can mod them again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
in the program folder there is just a .lnk file copy for the script you need the the togglemanila.exe in your windows folder.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcfarlan:
Works fine on Kaiser L26 TF3d test. Only drawback is with this workaround is when you press the key the second time to restart, TF3D has to relaunch all over again, so you are there waiting for a little while. I know this cannot be helped. Just noting it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
togglemanila.exe should be in \Program Files\ToggleManila\ already.

You may be copying it unnecessarily into \Windows and cluttering that up DOS-style. Also, you only need to assign a button to it in Buttons control panel.

I don't understand why this all this has to be reinvented with a Mortscript.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
Here a little tuturial of the script:

Line 1 starts the if-function with the check if the process manila.exe is running (no changes here needed, only if the tf3d process got renamed.

Line 2 just starts the toglemanila.exe in your windows directory, you can change it to the path of the link or to wherever the toglemanila.exe is, in my rom from laurentius it is in \windows directory.

Line 3 gives the togle manila 1000miliseconds to react, can be changed to a lower value but save is save.

Line 4 shut the display of.

Line 5 just starts the else argument that is done if manila exe is not running as a process.

Line 6 does the same like line 2 just in the other way

Line 7 powers on the display

line 8 starts the backlight (the first 60 is on battery, the second on external)

line 9 finishes the if-else function

Line 10 exits the script caus if it would not it would stay in ram the whole time

I hope that helped you if your files are in another directory
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aeratos:
I hope next version works with all htc phones.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
after power on it does the same like toglemanila.exe ould do, it just put the backlight back on, look one post above
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
The only reason is that you can do with one press now where you need two presses with toglemanila.exe on a button.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
got it...looking forward to it. Great work!

NOTE: I also liked how you removed the lines in the settings and programs tab in the previous update. Any chance to have this in v 2.1? thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
For those wanting to fix up the images some more by hand, here are the zip's with the PNG's. Original as well as rescaled. I advise using these PNG's instead of extracting them with Manila Editor, as these PNG's are a bit higher quality.

You will notice two things:

(1) The original PNG pack has all the PNG's upside down. That's a side effect of the method used to extract them. Just flip 'em over in your editor when you are going to edit them.

(2) The QVGA PNG pack has less files than the original PNG pack, because very small images have not been scaled. The scaler scaled only images 32x32 and larger (no, that does not include 16x64), and excluded some problematic images. These images are not upside down because my scaler automatically flipped them.

You can use these images for your themes or whatever.

For retouching, like fixing those white dots, either take the original image or the QVGA image and fix it up. If you are using the original image, only scale it down if there is also a QVGA image with this name!

You can test the file with Manila Editor, but if you want it to be included please post the PNG here (prescaled - so in QVGA size if there is one, else same size as original, KEEP THE FILENAME!!) as attachment, for the moment, so I can put them back in M3D in the most efficient way.

Sometime soon I will also post instructions on how to convert the PNG's back to the right ATC format, and my tool to then convert it to QTC and CFC (compressed QTC - 4 times smaller).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lepsyfou:
thank you Chainfire, you are the best developpeur XDA :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcfarlan:
Strange, but I have done this twice. If I run the script using Button 6 and after the backlight goes off I press the power button, TF does not launch. The backlight comes back on but no TF3D. I looked under settings today items and Touchflo is unchecked. If instead of pressing the Power button to turn the turn on the display I press Button 6, when the backlight comes on, "Launching Touchflo3D" is displayed and I have to wait a while for TF3D to be displayed. I have not tried Togglemanila.exe, but is what I am experiencing expected? Your script does not seem to be messing with TF3D in the Today items at all.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] munnna73:
how can it work with htc touch elfin
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
You have to use the button you mapped it to for power on, too

Power off and power on with the button where the script is mapped to

Read the explanation of the script one page earlier, then you know what i mean.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mcfarlan:
That is what I do with Button 6 and still get the "Launching" message. I will start over again. Maybe I messed up something. Thanks for your responses...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] JeckyllHavok:
You will always get the launching tf3d message.

Cause if touchflo3d is running you can't power off the display, this is a htcca driver issue and not solved yet.

Togle manila shut down tf3d so you can power off the screen.

IT's a little bit uncomfortable but at the moment it's the best that can be done.

Try it with the togle manila.exe in your start menu and you will kno what i mean.

My script only makes it alittle bit more comfortable
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xmoo:
New Youtube video???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] naish84:
i am not able to unistall this on my polaris, why? :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pisca:
Does the 2nd Version may be installed on top of the previous one, or unnistall first ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] maxniper:
here is a video of V2 made by batista70@ great Bro ;)

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=cfK-bqKeGQU
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pmorganii:
I may be asking the obvious, is it possible to use the pngs that have been done for the 2D version in the other forum (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398173 and http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425974)? The static icons of course, not the animated features. Looks like they have already been resized and sharpened...wonder if you could take those and apply them to 3D through your tool. Excuse my ignorance if this is not possible...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gullum:
wow now it's almost as fast and smooth as manila2d when cooked into a rom.

still power useage stopping it from being usefull for dayly use. but for speed it ok for dayly use for shure.

this might stay on my kaiser for braging and just the cool factor. while I use some of my other phones for my dayly use :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ralliartboypr:
Does this work on a att 8525?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mantis123:
Since the M3D works well when being integrated in a ROM, , wish ROM masters add it into the ROMs :eek:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Whosdaman:
Tested on Vogue...and it works, good job
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] theelite:
whosdaman, really on a vogue it works decently? with what drivers?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wdbanks:
Yes please...tell me where to find the link to the proper driver. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hvbelton:
I think that's a bit premature. I see that there are still quite a few problems with it, from not being able to shutoff the screen to the problems with the photo album. Don't get me wrong, I look forward to having full TF3D as my everyday UI, I just don't think it's there just yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egriffin:
OK, so when will we see it in your "secret" ver. 1.7 Manila rom?

:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Macropoutsis:
Ok buddy, up the drivers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raykisi:
Thx for the good work, it is now as fast as the manila 2D, however, the trade off for the 3D animation is the bad interface graphic.

Hope that in the near future, the graphic quality issue could be fixed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anryl:
keep it going its nice and fast coocked into my kaiser rom just the power still leaking fast it will need some lock keys prog to turn it off by unlocking turn it on

:cool:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
I think your comment is a bit premature... You only mention two issues by 'name', shut-off the screen and photo album, neither of which is related to TF3D (one is a driver issue, the other is that you epically failed to install the correct album version, both of which have been mentioned a gazillion times). You would've known this would you have read the thread.

Don't get me wrong, we are looking forward to TF3D being added to ROMs when the other dependancies are working right too... But don't you worry about that, your favourite chef will take care of it once the time has come.

Some graphics will be retouched, others may not. Especially the animations and such. What we'd need (due to the low resolution of the target devices) is some antialiasing or ansitropic filtering, and at least _I_ am not sure either of those are available on the target devices.... (nevertheless I still think it looks quite nice, even if not perfect - makes me have fun with my Kaiser again, instead of just playing with the Diamond and Raphael)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mreaglejr:
yeeehaaaaa

i love thiiiiiiis!!!!!!! thanksthanksthanksthanksthanks!! :D

a question: the globe on the internet tab is 'ugly' for everyone, or is it because i installed lots of cabs and then i didn't do a hard reset (before installing v2)?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
I dunno, the globe on the internet tab looks good here - a bit blurry, perhaps - maybe use "My Mobiler" (google) and take a screenshot ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
I(and Non HTC Devices Users) am just waiting a miracle Open GL ES Software Driver. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chainfire:
The Open GL ES software drivers out there can run it, but slowly and with white images...

I can fix the white images, but the truth is these software implementations are just too slow to run it comfortably in any case... It's just not worth the effort mate.

If your device doesnt support hardware 3D then you'd best stick with M2D. If it does support them but is lacking drivers, assemble a team to get the 3D drivers working on your device :)

If you find yourself having a device that does have hardware OpenGL ES but is not MSM/ATI/AMD based, perhaps I can fix it for you.... but this takes a lot of work, so not going to do it unless there's major interest.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] epismax:
vincent 3D.. I already tried it, and... yeah, White images..

Samsung Electronics doesn't support Korean PDA Users and doesn't give us full informations (Not 'Never') so I don't know whether my device support hardware 3D. thanks for reply
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ubhishek:
There are T3D beta roms out already!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mreaglejr:
hehe, this app is so cool! i made a few photos :D lol

so, actually i attach two:

- one with the internet tab (should the globe look like this)?

- and one with the home.. now what the hell is that view good for, if it only shows us one appointment? i mean, it should show many, shouldn't it? i have like 3 appointments after each other and it only shows the first.. why?

thanks

oh, btw another question: the (sometimes) "always on top" issue is because of the drivers too?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NuShrike:
Your globe is much blurrier than I've ever seen it, and I'm running the first release of this TF3D.

Always on top is half a driver issue, half lazy HTC programming. The GL driver expects to be always the top "rectangular area" overlay app when it's drawing to the screen so a pop-up, or dialog, such as the start-menu will get overridden.

However, it's lazy HTC for not detecting it's not the top-front window and STOP GL from drawing.

There's many other things that can be done too that's GDI friendly, but HTC leaned too much on modified GL drivers that hides all these issues from it. This probably results in TF3D sucking more CPU/battery than usual too since it doesn't turn itself off.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] violentz313:
so your obviously bs'n about working on vogue whosdaman?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vlad48:
Well, so what we, GoForce 5500 users, have to do? Start thread in every device forum (Portgeclub, XFU etc.) for counting how many of us need OpenGLES driver patched? Or we should start a donation thread?

here's a link to the libGLES_CM.dll from XDA Flame if anyone is interested.