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[Samsung Galaxy S21+] teerout:
This is for my wifes phone, we both have S21+5G devices. Her phone will launch the camera when pressing the side power button to wake the device. It does not happen every time but probably a 50/50 chance the device will show the lockscreen correctly vs launching the camera app.

Any thoughts on where to turn this off or what is causing it?
[Samsung Galaxy S21+] Atiagooq:
In settings search up

Side Key

And look at all of em
[Samsung Galaxy S21+] teerout:
Thanks, I looked and the double click/tap for camera option was checked. I am pretty sure we are not double clicking the side key but I unchecked it anyway and will see if the behavior stops.
[Samsung Galaxy S21+] teerout:
Yea so i have played with the side key settings and the device is still being weird opening the camera, maybe it's haxxed. I will try to get the phone factory reset and hope it clears up.
[Android Head-Units] wisrra:
Arquivo para atualização
[Android Head-Units] orb3000:
Ciao and welcome to XDA,

We use English as preferred language, you can use google translate.
[G1 General] fatso485:
compared to touch pro it has:

+bigger screen

+compass

-hvga

-no radio

its even made made by the same people with simlar quality

and yet its $399 while the touck pro is more than $1K unlocked. is google subsidising this ferther

anybody knows how much the winmo licence costing htc
[G1 General] ducamie:
it wouldnt suprise me if htc are loosing profit in the short term.

the whole point of the g1 is for it to be cheap and available to anyone (open source). i think they're probably biting the bullet and hoping it will pick up.
[G1 General] arteshiftedscreen:
G1 specs

the G1 is supposed to have a compass in it according to the HTC website, and I'm not sure... but I bet there's radio in it too. It also has the HVGA ur talkin about.

http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html

there's the page

compass is on the very bottom under the special features.
[G1 General] arteshiftedscreen:
HTC Touch HD

OMG this thing has a 5.0 megapixel camera!

Well.... I guess I better pitch my 5.0 megapixel kodak digi camera quick lol
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Who said it's unlocked? It's only being sold through T-Mobile, locked to their network, and the only way you can get it unlocked is by being a T-Mobile customer for 90 days.
[G1 General] Stewartwi:
It's 3.2 not 5 although 5 would have totally rocked. I'm using a Sony Ericsson K790a phone at the moment I love the camera on this thing but it basically has a cybershot camera built into it. I wish the G1 had a flash built in.
[G1 General] fhsieh:
I think you mean locked but without contract = $399. Locked and with a contract = $179. But T-mobile is good about allowing you to unlock it after 90 days (of good standing)

Also, as stated the phone is only using UMTS 1700/2100 for T-mobile's AWS 3G network. Unless different specs appear later, it certainly cannot be used on AT&T's 850/1900 3G network, and may not even work on any other global 2100 3G network. But it's quad-band EDGE so you can still get EDGE speeds.
[G1 General] warwolfx0:
fyi

windows mobile cost money

android is free

(+bigger screen)

(-hvga)

bigger screen maybe, but lower resolution

touch pro 640 x 480

g1 480 x 320

kaiser 240 x 320

i put the kaiser in just for ref.

and tmobile gets a discount for a mass order

they also lock the phone

(this is a hardware lock, not in the software

they might be more relaxed on unlocking the phone due to android (att will unlock there phone even if you are not on there network)(tmoblie will unlock after 90 days per line)

the touch pro doesn't have network yet

and it is unlocked

if a big carrier (with a huge market) gets the touch pro the price will drop

a new HTC TyTn II is still $600

and i am talking about the TyTn II not the Tilt

there is your cost difference

btw the spec look like it will work on at&t

http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Yeah that's what I'm saying, you can get it for $399 without a contract, but it is NOT unlocked. You'll be able to buy a Fuze from AT&T without a contract, but you still need to get it unlocked.
[G1 General] fatso485:
so anybody knows how much does a fully unlocked phone that i can use anywhare will end up costing
[G1 General] danielbui23:
FYI

I preordered my phone last week and it said on the listing:

Retail $399

On-Line Upgrade Discount $100

Total Upgrade Price $299

------------------------------

Plus in order to order this phone you must add to your rate plan a T-Mobile G1 rate plan. It's either Plan (A) $39.99 unlimited G1 internet and texting or Plan (B) Limited Internet and 400 text for $25.99 extra on top of your normal rate. It states the pre-existing rate plans will Alter to the change for the G1 service if the phone is purchased. I tried to add the phone without adding the G1 service and the website would not let me continue without (1) adding plan (A), plan (B) or (2) remove the phone from upgrade.

After ordering the phone T-Mobile's website stated that the phone would be delivered with free shipping on or by October 22nd 2008. BTW I ordered the Black with the $25.99 plan.

This is what I ordered in the USA other countries might be different.
[G1 General] fhsieh:
Other countries don't have the G1 yet. UK is the next launch country (iirc) and won't get it until the end of this year or early next year.

I'm sure there will be individuals who are planning to buy the G1 from Tmo US to resell online (on ebay); whether or not they're fully unlocked will depend on the fine print. I would expect them to be around $500. But again the launch version of the G1 is 1700/2100mhz 3G, so you can't just use it "anywhere"; and by the time these launch units start becoming available unlocked, there will be other versions/models to choose from anyway.
[G1 General] danielbui23:
Sorry, I am editing my statement about G1 plan (B): Limited Internet and 400 text messages.

PLAN (B) is UNLIMITED INTERNET and 400 text messages allowed in or out going.
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Hmm, I don't think I could stick to 400 texts a month... Haha oh damn, I just looked at my usage for AT&T for this month (only 2 weeks into the billing period)...

Anytime minutes: Used 113/1400

Night/Weekend: Used 1,794 of unlimited

Mobile To Mobile: Used 1,152 of unlimited

Messaging: Used 519 of unlimited

And, since I canceled my data plan, a whopping .06MB of data, woot. I know I use my phone a ton, but I can't really see anyone that texts semi-frequently using under 400... A single conversation via text can take 20 text messages, and 20 days having 1 full conversation is your 400 right there.
[G1 General] fhsieh:
Well at $25 and $35, T-mobile's definitely going after the iPhone plans, which don't even include any texts in the base $30 rate, and goes up to $50 for unlimited internet/sms.

AT&T might have wider 3G coverage, but if it continues to underperform, Tmo could take the cake.

Anyway, online-presence apps (like IM) should eventually start phasing out text messaging as more and more people get internet-enabled phones; so 400 messages could conceivably cover all the messaging "when-needed", while users start adopting more interactive modes of chat -- especially once developers integrate them into popular social networking services, like Facebook et al.
[G1 General] benjimen:
And keep in mind that the IM software dings you for each message sent and received as well, with exception of Google Talk -- it's the only one of the bunch that uses the internet connection for messaging; all the rest use texting.

Who uses Google Talk? I didn't even know it existed ;)
[G1 General] benjimen:
If you use Google Talk, you're not touching your text message allowance, but any of the others on the G1 count each IM sent and received just the same as a text message. My primary IM service is MSN, and I know there's a mobile web client available -- not as pretty, but a lot cheaper to use...
[G1 General] danielbui23:
Yeah Phone based IM services that are preloaded on phones are going to cost just as much as Texting and run along the samelines as they run as an MMS or SMS ie. yahoo messanger, AOL messanger ect....

I use GoogleTalk and It's pretty cool. If 2 people have a Gmail.com account it will allow the 2 to talk in chat form. No Software to load its all done through a popup or popout window. Nothing fancy just realtime conversations. There is a green bubble that pops up next to the name when they are logged on to Gmail so you know if they are by the computer. It turns orange if Google talk or Gmail has been at idle for too long and turns Grey if they are signed off. Also the chats are recorded in a chat folder so if you need to reference information from a previous Chat/ Conversation you can easily access it through your designated folder.
[G1 General] benjimen:
I installed it, and it's OK -- bare bones, the 'cheap motel room' (CNET reviewer remark) of chat products. My favorite feature is how you can set 'off the record' per contact in your list. Once set, chats are >not< stored for future searching (in your Gmail or theirs), and it isn't something your 'buddy' can change.
[G1 General] danielbui23:
TRUE

, you can turn off that feature but I have alot of coworkers with gmail accounts and its seems to be easier just to reference a conversation instead of trying to remember what was talked about.
[G1 General] benjimen:
It could be beneficial if used for work related chat, but, I don't use it for that. I'd rather not be concerned about what I type to a family member, friend, etc. being forwarded in an email... With the 'off-the-record' feature, it isn't a concern -- and it's great you can easily turn it on/off per chat-buddy. Going 'off-the-record' with a co-worker if the conversation might be a bit gossipy to be stored indefinintely :)
[G1 General] danielbui23:
Haha, well said
[G1 General] MontAlbert:
Unlocking the G1-Sim Unlock

If i buuy an unlocked G1 phone off ebay will it still have all available functions? One ebay seller stated in his ad that if unlocked you are unable to use all the functions anymore.....

thanks
[G1 General] benjimen:
I'm not sure why you'd want an unlocked one at this point really... The 3G bands work only with T-Mobile. While you might be able to use the phone with AT&T, you'd be limited to Edge speeds on the internet.

As I wouldn't think a non T-Mobile subscriber would use this device, it shouldn't matter whether it's locked.
[G1 General] MontAlbert:
i'd need an unlocked one cos i am in Australia. It will work on our 2100MHz freq.

There aren't any t-mobile over here.
[G1 General] weresgyufa:
why dont u use a Turbo sim or x sim or what?
[G1 General] cookzitall:
2100mhz is the download speed...1700mhz or 1900mhz is the upload speed...soo android will only work on a 1700mhz band..which makes it pretty much useless 2 ne provide that does support 1700mhz 3g band
[G1 General] MontAlbert:
bugger- looks like i will have to wait for them to release the european version- wonder when that will be out?
[G1 General] fhsieh:
Tmo UK is planning to release the G1 in November.
[G1 General] bachviet:
Actually according to HTC, it is a dual band HSDPA phone (Euro/Asia and T-Mobile US).
[G1 General] Black93300ZX:
Not from the same version, it's like when they showed "Europe/Asia" and "US" for the Touch Pro/Diamond. The 1700/2100mhz UMTS used for T-Mobile US is different than the 2100mhz UMTS used in Australia.
[G1 General] McHale:
wait wait wait...

W H A T?!?!?!?

from HTC's website:

Network	HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe: 2100 MHz

US:1700/2100 MHz

Those are the frequencies the phone works on. Consider the phone like an FM radio. If your FM radio picks up the stations between 87.7 and 107.9, it will not pick up anything below or above those frequencies. Now, the phone operates on 3 specific frequencies so if the 3G tower is broadcasting on anything BUT those three, like 850/1900 (AT&T), this phone will NOT work on it as it doesn't support those frequencies.

-Mc
[G1 General] fhsieh:
Eh, let's just clarify things.

UMTS transmits data using two links, an uplink and a downlink. All UMTS networks run both links in a single band; for instance, in the regular 2100mhz band, the uplink runs at a little bellow 2100mhz, and the downlink runs at a little above 2100mhz.

However, Tmo US 3G uses the "AWS" band: the downlink is (approximately) the same running a little above 2100mhz, but because of a confliect at the lower-end, the uplink runs around 1700mhz.

It's a unique setup and requires that the radio to split the links accordingly; if there's some way the radio can intelligently switch back to running both links on 2100mhz, then it will be 3G capable on other 2100mhz networks. But that's pretty unlikely (even the downlink isn't the exact same), so for all intents and purposes until proven otherwise, they're non-interoperable.
[G1 General] beartard:
I've done a lot of research into the 1700/2100 thing. It seems at first glance that interoperability will not be possible, though T-Mobile has said that international roaming on 3G will work on the G1 and the rest of the 3G-capable phones they sell. Now, European 3G phones will not work on tmo-USA's 3G network.
[G1 General] MontAlbert:
So if T-mobile are saying the G1 from US can be use for international roaming then surely it could be unlocked and used OS..... unless you need to enable the international roaming to allow it to use the 2100 band only.....
[G1 General] dan0zone:
well from what i am reading from what these guys are saying is that T-mo US 3g phones will work on Euro 3g because it has the 2100 band but Euro 3g won't work on the T-Mo US 3g because they don't have the second band (1700 or 1900) . Eruo does everything on the 2100 band ..T-Mo US needs 2100 and 1700.... To your question should work but no way to find out till we get the phone in our hands ...I do a lot of traveling so i'll try it ...

Not sure but if 3g like gsm it should work if the phone has the supported frequencies or frequency
[G1 General] fhsieh:
The problem is that Tmo's 2100mhz segment is different than all other regular 2100mhz 3G bands. There's no doubt a 2100mhz-only device cannot work on Tmo (or any other NA carrier); but whether or not a 1700/2100mhz device can work internationally depends on if the radio can switch from 1700+2100mhz mode to 2100mhz-only mode.

Unfortunately, there really hasn't been any clear statement about this. At the Sep 23 release event, Cole Brodman only mentioned GSM/EDGE in response to a question about international roaming, but he did not clearly say if it was GSM-only, or if 3G was or was not supported (there could be all sorts of reasons for being intentionally vague). The G1 spec sheet lists Europe and US frequencies, but there is no indication of whether it means there will be two SKUs (a US G1 and a Europe G1) or if it means one device is capable of both regions.

The easiest way to find out is going to be to take a G1 to Europe to test.
[G1 General] bachviet:
Even the T-Mobile US CTO indicated in the press release (near the end) that the phone has dual UMTS/HSDPA band.

I'm not saying that T-Mobile AWS is the same as Euro/Asia UMTS 2100 but the chipset has both (dual-band).

As you can see on T-Mobile G1 spec on HTC website, this phone is branded for T-Mobile US only (-T---Mobile logo) and it showed both T-Mobile AWS & Euro/Asia 3G bands.

Europe/Asia probably sees the same version but with different branding.
[G1 General] crreed:
Euro / US 3G Bands

The HTC website states the following:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html

Network

HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe: 2100 MHz

US:1700/2100 MHz

Up to 7.2 Mbps down-link (HSDPA) and 2 Mbps up-link (HSUPA) speeds

The chipset shown there is the Qualcomm® MSM7201A™, 528 MHz. Reviewing the pdadb.net site shows these same chipsets, Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000), in use for the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael 100) as the HTC Dream.

Based upon this, I would expect the chipset has the ability to toggle between 1700+2100 US and 2100 EU.

_______________________________

T-Mobile MDA Vario (HTC Wizard G3)

Windows Mobile 6

Build 19209.1.0.2 from TNT It's Right

IPL: 2.26

SPL: 2.26

GSM: 02.19.11

OS: 11.0.2.0

Radio: 2.19.11 UK

T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream) on pre-order in black
[G1 General] fhsieh:
Yes, hopefully that is the case, and not that HTC has prepared two separate SKUs as they have traditionally done on their other handsets.
[G1 General] marcus905:
From the datasheet it seems that there are 3 types of radio for the Qualcomm MSM7201 convergence chipset:

RTR6275+RFR6525. This works on 2100 only, 2100DL + 800UL or 2100DL + 1700/800UL.

RTR6275+RFR6500. This works on 1900UL + 850DL or 2100DL + 1900/850UL

RTR6285. This does them all as it's a triple band chipset.

Assuming that HTC is using the first or the third the Euro band is supported. The second is made for PRC customers, as those bands are for use there, it seems.

This is however purely deducing information from datasheets and is no way complete or correct, so before buying check physically that this is the case. I assume no responsibility if you lose money in the case that what I said should prove untrue.
[G1 General] J273:
G1 sim free?

Will the g1 be released sim free at all or is it only possible tied in with t-mobile?

Thanks
[G1 General] Mikey:
Once you get it unlocked, it should not be tied to T-Mobile anymore
[G1 General] Byte_76:
G1 Available unlocked in store for $400?

Hi,

I have a friend who is heading to Chicago in November and will be able to buy the G1 for me while he is there but I need to give him the correct amount of cash. Can someone please confirm that the G1 is available without a contract from any T-Mobile store in the US for U$400 unlocked?

Thanks very much!
[G1 General] dagentooboy:
I don't think you can get the unlocked one in the store... you would have to order online... but yes the non-contract price is $399
[G1 General] Byte_76:
Thanks for the reply. Is the G1 available online, unlocked, without a contract to anyone staying in the US?
[G1 General] buggybug0:
online or instore --> LOCKED to tmobile, no contract $399 + tax

or

online or in store--> locked to tmobile, contract $179 + tax + your monthly fee x 2 years.
[G1 General] foxmeister:
Well, I tried to buy one last night online without a contract. I got all the way through to submitting the order, and then was advised that I needed to speak to a representative online or on the phone. I used the online service and I was told that I could *not* buy the phone online without a contract, but I could if I went into a T-Mobile store.

The worst thing is, they still have a hold on $500 of my money, which I can't touch until the hold expires!

Regards,

Dave
[G1 General] dagentooboy:
that stinks... it would almost be better to buy one on ebay... Has anyone actually tried a non-T-Mobile card in a G1? I wonder if they actually locked it. The last Customer Care guy I talked to said they had nothing to do with locking or unlocking the phone (I don't think he knows what he is talking about) but I thought we should check to be sure.
[G1 General] J273:
G1 from US use in the UK??

Ive just bought a g1 on ebay ..Ive just realized though it might not work in the UK with the different frequencies.

Can anyone tell me if my UK 3g sim will for in the US G1?

Thanks
[G1 General] chefgon:
$400 will get you a G1 without contract, but it will still be SIM locked to T-Mobile. In order to get it unlocked, you will have to pay for 90 days of month-to-month T-Mobile service, after which they will carrier-unlock the phone at your request and you can take it to any other GSM carrier that allows you to bring your own phone (the 3G won't work on any other carrier of course)
[G1 General] Rudegar:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream

it's all here
[G1 General] Rudegar:
"take it to any other GSM carrier that allows you to bring your own phone"

??? are they not suppose to provide a service

wanting as many customers as possible?

if one can't be sure one can bring ones own phone

it sounds more like they see themselfs as their business is

a privilege ? :P
[G1 General] bachviet:
Yes as long as it's unlocked.
[G1 General] J273:
Ah good news..Thanks guys...I thought for a minute id just bought an expensive paperweight.

Its not coming from the US unlocked but hopefully there will be an unlock solution soon.

Thanks
[G1 General] GlobalM3:
PM me I can unlock it for you
[G1 General] dagentooboy:
Would you care to post instructions? Also have you found a way to get root access?
[G1 General] rameshb_v:
I made a PM to you... Can you please let me know what info you need for unlock.. Thx
[G1 General] felicita:
G1 Activation without t-mobile sim card

Any ideas about How to activate G1 without tmo sim card. I Iive in Russia and i haven`t friends with activated T-mobile simcard
[G1 General] ikm19:
Currently its not possible without tmobile Sim card.
[G1 General] mingkee:
you have to:

1. your G1 is unlocked for sure

2. have data added on your SIM

3. enter safe mode (press menu when powering up all the way till standby screen appears)

4. configure your network setting for your carrier

5. restart, activate
[G1 General] felicita:
Did u try it???
[G1 General] speoples20:
You need to have a SIM card of any kind to activate the phone. If you don't have a SIM it won't work, even with safe mode.
[G1 General] felicita:
i have Sim but it`s not t-mobile) and one more question: where i can buy the unlock code, except ebay?
[G1 General] Ayulin:
I've seen some people on other forums recommend this site; it seems a lot cheaper than the codes on eBay.

I'd be interested to hear if you have any success unlocking and activating your G1; been waiting and looking for someone who has done it before I go ahead and get one off eBay :p
[G1 General] thewayne01:
Got my unlock code today.

I convinced T-Mobile to give me the unlock code even though I have only had the phone for 3 days. I have unlocked my G1 and tested it on AT&T. I just want to use for voice calls at home, since T-Mobile coverage is mostly non-existent at home. My problem is that the AT&T sim I have does not have a data plan. If I turn off data synchronization, will that shut off all data? I am aware that if I open an app that access the data network then I will incur charges.

Thanks.
[G1 General] syrusfrost:
Just don't enter any of at&t's apn information and the phone wont be able to access any data.

And please consider one of the voip apps out there, they are probably a bit cheaper than having a separate plan.
[G1 General] thewayne01:
I would prefer to use a voip solution, but i have not yet seen one for the G1 that works only on wifi.

The AT&T plan is provided by my employer, so it is not costing me anything. It is, however, a pain to swap sims out.
[G1 General] sputnik99:
I asked a german ebay-seller, if UMTS (=3G) works in Germany. He told me that it worked perfect. I know, thats no proof at all, but he would have been into trouble, if I bought his G1 and 3G did not work.

it was this seller http://cgi. ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140278400544

(as I don't know if links are allowed, I put some space between cgi. and ebay.de, just delete this)

As I am courageous I bought a phone (from another seller) from usa and will try to use it here in germany. I will tell you if it works. I am hoping that there will be a free unlock until the arrival in some days.

One thing I am wondering, is if the ota-updates will work with an unlocked phone. Any information?
[G1 General] Mysterious Stranger:
My US sourced G1 works perfectly for download and upload on t-mobile 3G in the UK.

It also has all the APN's and MMS settings in the rom for all the major t-mobile networks in europe.

M.S
[G1 General] driz:
My g1 worked on telestial 3g in Germany. ALso works on AWCC 3G in Afghanistan and MTC 3G in Kuwait/Bahrain. Wataniya 3g in Kuwait didnt work.. I downloaded the update from here and applied it manually so i dunno if OTA works..