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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
I give it 2 weeks max till it comes out if it isn't already on g1, threaded text is my favorite feature from 6.1.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjimen:
It's there, and is mentioned a few times in the user guide:

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[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gottifour:
cool..thanks for the reply
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] satru:
questions using the g1 without 25$ plan

-if i buy a g1 in ebay and i dont want to pay the 25$ add. plan, i can use this phone with my tmobil plan?? only have to change the sim card?

-for request a phone now i have to select 35$ or 25$ addicional plan. when i have the phone i can cancel this 25$ or 35$ plan?

now i am using excalibur with 4.99 internet plan.

thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beartard:
Negative. The data plan is required. It will be added to your account when you get the phone. It's tied to the G1.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dabezt1:
Tmo said the same thing with the sidekicks. But after a while you were able to remove sidekick plan.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beartard:
It may very well be. But the fact is that the data plan is part of buying the phone. If you make changes to the plan within the term of your new, two-year contract, you risk that early-termination fee deal.

For those who didn't re-up a contract for the phone, nobody knows just yet how it will work if you cancel the data plan.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Black93300ZX:
This is like if you go to the AT&T wireless forums, 5000 questions a day about removing the iPhone plan (can't be done). Are there ways around it? We don't know yet. What we do know is, T-Mobile is making you keep the plan as long as you keep the phone, exactly like iPhone. If you can find a way to use it without the plan but still get unlimited data, do that. :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gospeed.racer:
technically, if Tmobile doesnt know you have the Dream, they cant make you purchase a package (unless I am missing something). If you leave your phone listed in the My Tmobile as a Dash, or whatever, the options available for that phone are shown and will not include the dream packages. If you buy the phone elsewhere, they wont know until you tell them.

Of course I have absolutely no idea why you would want a phone like this without data (and without text messaging, since they are likely tied) as it would be so crippled.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luda156:
well t-mobile would know because i called them a day and they told me every phone i've used including the iphone. They said everytime you make a call from you cell they get info on what phone your using
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gospeed.racer:
interesting, because they only knew the last phone they sold me when I called them before. I have never bought a Dash from them, yet they allowed me to add tzones access to my "razr" and use it on the Dash for over a year before I upgraded to the full internet plan.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dagentooboy:
Same thing with my tilt... in fact I keep telling them that it's the wing and my.t-mobile.com never saves it. I think that if you have a t-mobile phone they can tell but if it's an att or even a CID/SIM unlocked phone (Correct me if I am wrong on the CID/SIM part) they can still see it but it doesn't match any of their phones so they don't know what it is.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swaney:
wat if i have familt text messaging can i only pay 15 or 20 for data
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dabs:
Vendor and model/serial number are contained in the IMEI.

eg. 00|000000|111111|0

First 2 groups are TAC and stuff, third is UE serial, last is checksum bit.

IMEI and IMSI are sent to the network when the device attatches to a cell.

[edit]

Looked at the spec quickly (just happened to have Rel6 to hand, as you do)

Its in 22.016 if anyone is interested.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atlp99:
T-mobile can see every phone you use

Dabs is correct, every time that you make a call the network sees and logs the IMEI number on the phone. I work for T-mobile and when you pull up an account you can see every device that has ever been used on that account and the dates it was used.

T-mobile has traditionally not cared what kind of phone that you use, if you want to buy an unlocked smart phone and you can get internet access working on t-zones they don't care.

T-mobile knows that you are using a G1, the question is do they care. I can personally vouch for the fact that it will work on a blackberry data plan, I had my sim in one today and had full 3G service (averaging roughly 700kps over 3).

Regarding the sidekicks on t-mobile, the data plan is required (but can be removed) because of the way the sidekick stores data on the sidekick server. Sidekicks store the majority of their data on the server. The phone restores data off of the server after being turned off. If you do not have the sidekick data and remover the battery you lose all of the info, contacts, etc, except what is stored on the sim card.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gorguts:
Your right, this is my opinion and you have yours. Why does it matter if my experience was not as pleasant. Im not spouting fact, im just telling a tale of a phone powered on. I did state that I was use to wimmo and it may just be that by the way, There is enough about the phone that is great that im not pissed for having it but I think most ppl will feel slighted; not us on xda cause we know whats coming. Imagine you weren't a super nerd and you bought the "iPHONE kila" and it doesn't kill ****e. How would you feel not knowing you could logon to Xda and snazz things up. All in all its cool at most but not great...in my opinion.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
Hey guys is there an option to be alerted when new apps go into market? Just curious :)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdoggraz:
How do some people all ready have this phone
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdoggraz:
Dang you are lucky, I dont get mine till tomorrow... the 20th... woot... you got yours early man...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
Alot of the people that have one said they got it from t mobile, i figured you would have one for sure man!!
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Black93300ZX:
You can buy it on eBay, I found a guy that was going to sell one to me for $450 but I didn't think it was worth it for a phone I can't even get 3G on. No, I'm not talking preorder, he had 2 in hand.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
Thats sucks I figured they would have nyc and surrounding areas covered for you for sure!! Thats one helluva big market for them.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tf442:
Can I set up G1 by wifi

I will be getting my G1 today (UPS "Out for Delivery"). I don't have a cell phone signal at my house. Can I charge the phone and then log onto Gmail and set it up by wifi or will I have to drive the mile to get a cell phone signal to set it up? Anyone have the answer?

Thanks,
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dagentooboy:
hmm.... if it doesn't work on wifi I would take a laptop and plug the G1 into that to keep it charging and drive down to the signal.... sign in... and go home and play :D ... we have to charge the battery all the way up before we use it :(
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdoggraz:
Yah that is what I had to do with mine... it sucks but it doesn't take to long... its been charging for like 2 hours and its almost done charging.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdoggraz:
I just got mine today :)... its amazing... you will love it stylez trust me man...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdoggraz:
Got My G1 Today

I just got my G1 this morning, has anyone else found it sort of complicated using the touch screen. It might be because I am not used to using a touch screen as I made the transition from the T-Mobile Dash to this phone... Let me know what everyone else thinks about this...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] papito2181:
Got mine today also. Happy as hell right now.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dirkyd3rk:
I got my g1 a week ago because i work for tmobile.

yeah so i love the g1, i havent found any problems with it, its perfect so far, i recently had an unlocked iphone for tmobile but now the g1 is by new baby. ask questions or anything i can answer.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jehlinger:
I find the touchscreen very easy to use and responsive, you're probably just experiencing the normal pains in switching from using keys all the time to using the touchscreen.

The touchscreen on the G1 kicks the diamond's assh. Also much quicker on most applications.

just wish it had exchange support, It would be the ultimate device.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kormanb1123:
Finally have mine too. this is great
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haitiankid4lyf:
got mines today really happy.. will try dumping rom this week
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickmgray:
I played around with the G1 in the T-Mobile store today. I've used touch screens a lot, owned the imate JAM and the Touch, but the screen on the G1 is completely different. With my Touch, I use the edge of my finger/fingernail to get a firm tap on the device, but the G1 you need to simply use you finger. This is more intuitive, but it seems you have to hold youd finger down for longer in order for it to regiter. A quick tap didn't work as good as it does on the Touch.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryanmo5:
Im so jealous man mine still hasn't come yet, do you like it so far?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iphone_fan:
FM Tuner ???

Is FM tuner available on this device ?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] canOpoop:
:DGot mine yesterday 10/20 at about 5pm!! WHOO-HOO!:D
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ibpnyc:
Im from NYC and got mine via UPS last night. I did the whole pre-order thing way back when
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cr2:
No. But it has a real digital compass, which diamond/raphael do not have.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blahzay_blah:
just got the phone and....

i love it theres just a few problems i see with it.

camera-when u goto snap a picture takes a few seconds to capture

task manager- where is it? how do i kill apps?

sim contacts-on my dash i saved all contacts to sim now i swapt sim to android and i see none of my sim contacts. how do i go about this?

other than those few i have no problems with the phone except that why hasnt my plan changed yet
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yos025:
I am typing this from my G1. I love it. Just got it.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henrynhl:
just got it -_-“ the keyboard is not as good as I thought
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blahzay_blah:
i got the contacts now but yea the keyboard i kinda like lol

the block on the right does not affect my typing at all , there has to be a camera fix in a upgrade or sumthin in the future and wat the heck no video, i guess ill be carrying my dash as a back up pucture/video recorder
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dagentooboy:
the camera wasn't that great on my wing... but as the software got better so did the radio... so maybe it will get better with a kernel/android/camera application update.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damnitpud:
I don't like that you can't just hit the camera button to bring up the camera. I am sure this will change eventually...just weird the last 3 or 4 phones i had, had this feature.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rameshb_v:
oh... That sucks.. I am on AT&T and planning to buy it on ebay. So I would have 2 problems then:

1. SIM Unlock the phone

2. Enable AT&T Data (Edge) plan to sign into Google.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dan0zone:
it does on mine...... just like on the wing

waiting for software update now ..maybe it will fix some of these issues
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syrusfrost:
The camera button brings the camera up on mine... Keep your phone on, soft reset in an hour. Maybe you are receiving a software update.

TASK MANAGER - For now, there is not one. If you are using the apps as intended memory is dynamically managed via sleep states. No need to kill apps.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fhsieh:
You may need to press and hold the camera button for ~1 sec to pull up the camera app. If this is the case, I'm guessing it's a feature so that you don't accidentally bring up the camera while rummaging around through another application.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haitiankid4lyf:
pretty much everyone who preordered it recieved either yesterday or today
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haitiankid4lyf:
wireless

does anybody else have problems with the 3g?

i have tmobile and i didnt select the option for only 2g but my 3g keeps going in and out even when im in the same spot it'll go from 3g to Edge for no reason.

also does anybody have problem conecting to wifi?

i have a linksys wireless n (WRT300N) router, the ssid is visible and uts using wep security but when ever i try to connect to it it says out of range or it just stops trying to connect Please Help:)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mwang:
I got mine yesterday , dont had problem connected to 3G but when I swtich sim card back to touch pro and diamond which cant connect to internet :mad: , I called T-Mobile they said G1 internet service was different with other , if you had G1 3G services than you cant used internet for others devices , does anyone had same problem I had ?

thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syrusfrost:
try setting the APN to the dreams APN...

what is it? its ???.tmobile.com... i cant remember...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ayodeji13:
You can it just lags. 1 of my few complaints about the phone.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mwang:
no, maybe I explain wrong , G1 was no problem with 3G internet services, when I swtich sim card to Diamond/Touch Pro cant connect to internet.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fhsieh:
T-mobile's US 3G network uses UMTS IV (1700mhz)

G1 uses UMTS IV (1700mhz)

Europe/Asia Diamond/Touch Pro uses UMTS I and VIII (2100/900mhz)

US Diamond/Touch Pro uses UMTS II and V (1900/850mhz)

It doesn't matter if you're using the same SIM. If your phone doesn't support UMTS IV, you won't be able to get T-mobile's 3G. You can still get 2G (GSM/EDGE), but you will need separate settings for that (search the forum for "t-mobile total internet" or "t-zones").
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bgolfn:
Mine was delivered on Tuesday. It does have 3g and more bars than my diamond. Touch screen not as reactive as the diamond, and keyboard is good, if you have small fingers which I dont have. Got to seach for some apps. I was told that T-mo members would be the first to get the G1 and the release date here in SOCAL was 10-22-08.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dixon_coxon:
I did the pre-order, missed the 1st delivery 2days ago and finally picked it up last night. My thoughts are it is an impressive phone. Call quality is great so far, no freezing, apps open quickly, no issues with android market for me.

Battery life is not great, maybe it's because I'm constantly doing something on it.

I'm still getting to know it, so I'll post any wow stuff I find
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjatplay:
I can actually get the G1 to fit in my old dash pouch. Its pretty snug though;)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bjatplay:
Do you remember where you saw a stereo bluetooth app. I can't believe it isn't already on the phone. What's the deal with the voice dialer? Do I have to speak and push a button or is it just slow?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dixon_coxon:
If this phone was pre-ordered, a customer has the option to return it within at least a week (i dont remember the time frame). This allows you to purchase another type of phone that does not require google activation.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iceucold:
Fits in the standard wing pouch with ease. I'm using it now. The wing pouch has the flexible ends and the G1 is a bit slimmer. Works like a charm. ;)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuppaacc:
Hi I know this is the wrong place to post this but I cant find any other place were i can get help I have a s620 but just got the new Google android its a great phone but it seem Im unable to unlock the phone!

I added a lock pasword were you have to make a pattern with your finger unfortunately I lock the phone and unable to unlock it it ask me for my gmail user name and pasword but its not working I contact Tmobile and no luck and Im unable to contact HTC the number the I found its no good if anyone could help me I will apriciated....

thanks
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikey:
For one: If I knew how, i wouldnt tell anyone. Dont take it personally.

Two: If T-mobile cant help, i highly doubt anyone here can this soon. Still learning the phone and all.

Good luck
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hxjHTC:
Try this

After you have entered wrong unlock pattern 5 times, you will get a message saying you can not try again for 30 seconds. Let your phone go into sleep mode then wake it, you will find a new button called "Forgot Pattern?" show up on lower right hand corner. Press it and enter the same login and password you have used to setup the phone in the first place. My guess is you weren't able to get it to work because you did not enter your full e-mail address (you need to include @gmail.com). Once you entered the correct full e-mail address and the correct password you will be taken to a screen to set a new unlock pattern or you can simply press "Cancel" to use your phone without a lock pattern. If this doesn't work for you for some reason I guess you'd simply have to hard reset the device... (press and hold Home + Back while turning the phone on)
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckthunda:
So I have had my G1 for a couple days now after finally getting use to my Diamond. I returned the Diamond because I missed the hardware keyboard on my Kaiser and because when it comes down to specs the G1 is right there with the Diamond and Touch Pro. I think all the issues that people are complaining about right now should be resolved in the next few months as developers develop like a2dp profile for bluetooth and the fix so your not constantly unlocking the screen as well as tethering and every other issue that you can think of. The phones lacking so much because they wanted the community to do the work. So far the handheld has been excellent.. Very Snappy and responsive. It's definitely not for someone who doesn't have experience with pocket pc's. Love the tight integration with Gmail but hate that you can only sync one account to the phone.. (soon we can work on a workaround) Screen is beautiful. I read earlier in a forum someone asking about stylus and what not and somebody responded that a stylus would work.. The manual states no and it's screen can be compared with the Iphone's or the Ipod Touch. I really don't think many people in that market are asking for a stylus. Battery life for the phone sucks absolutely.. I've been managing to get a full day charge still connected to 3g but not heavy usage. Bluetooth there is no stereo profile but that will be fixed.. There is no virtual keyboard but again that will be fixed Q1 2009 unless someone brings one out first in the community. There are no office programs on this phone you can use the google viewer but i've read that users have been having a problem with that as well. Phone has a motion sensor in it that will be implemented soon more than just the compass mode. No fm radio but you can stream all you want. There is no file manager and I haven't figured out how to end already running programs but with the same chipset as the diamond or pro it shouldn't be that much of a memory eater. What freaks me out and hopefully we can get it worked out is that there isn't an option to store programs to memory card so I have to investigate this further. The web browser isn't half as choppy as most reviewers say. 3g coverage is good. I'm in Baltimore.. Did notice the phone goes in and out of edge and 3g often though but i think thats more of a tower thing. Most of the apps that you can get off the marketplace are pretty cool. No facebook but you can google for the reason why. The camera sucks but we can fix that soon. When i say it sucks i mean no video recording and there are no options to tweak the camera in photo mode. There is already a fix to play video in selected formats via the marketplace. Skype is already available its called iskoot. Umm.. Overall the phone is awesome and has alot of potential that will soon be unleashed and it is my belief that can be right there if not better than the diamond, touch pro, or even the iphone and touch hd. If you want more info on the phone you can email me lynchro@gmail.com I would be more than happy to answer.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robpet2:
Couldn't have said it better.. but the G1 is gonna have some nice programs coming to the android marketplace on monday. So hopefully there's a fix for the video recorder and flash( cause we all want flash). Also there is no gif player.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spacemonkey333:
Does anyone know the status of this?? I am going to hang on to my Hermes just in case...If my G1 ever arrives...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckthunda:
Nope no internet sharing at the moment.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Great NY:
anyone G1 do this????

For some reason.....if I put my phone in the pouch and leave it alone for a while....

I go to use the phone and its off. So I push the power on button and nuthin.

I know your suppose hold it down which I do...but it won't power up

Only way the power button will power up the phone is...........to plug in a power supply ....IE- wall charger or car charger or usb

Any thoughts?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humble:
I have a suggestion, maybe its one of you settings mainly the GPS.

i have a story....:D 1 time i used the gps my battery was at ~60% and forgot i left it on for like 3 hours and low and behold when i try to use it, it was dead hope this helps Turn off GPS
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quedijo:
LOL... You should write an autobio just cuz of that :p
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humble:
Sometimes you need a story to get the drift:D..... an autobio LOL
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slomomo1018:
craziness

i was just on the phone with tmobile for 1 hour and 2 minutes trying to plead my case. "im not in a 3g area and im only going to use the internet features over wifi why do i need to pay 35 more dollars a month?"

I kept getting passed up to supervisors and eventually they told me i could keep my unlimited texting family plan for 20 (since i have 3 lines) and then get an unlimited data plan for 24.99 (text messages covered under family text). luckily i didnt order 3 g1's for my 3 lines otherwise id have to pay $75 in data costs ill never use in addition to 20 for text and 60 for my phone plan....$155 if your counting.

I also asked if they were planning of some kind of plan for family lines with g1's they said they had nothing in the works yet. absolute craziness.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miketheitguy:
My phone actually keeps a charge longer if I have my GPS and WiFi on.... i know it sounds weird but mine will go all day ( 8am till 11pm) and not die, with GPS and WiFi off it last about 5 hours. Not sure why it's kinda counterintuitive

Mike
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yos025:
Well, I have kept Wi-fi only in my house and the battery doesnt seem to be drain as much as my wing used to when in wi-fi...
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xelencin:
I've had this same problem a few times in the week I've had mine. I always press the end call button and put the phone in my pocket. I've gone to check my phone and its off. I hold down the power button for a few secs and it turns back on, sometimes I've gotta try multiple times to power it back on.
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humble:
:confused: I guess different strokes for different fokes:D

an to The Great NY. Did doing what i said work?
[G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Great NY:
well, the GPS wasnt on, and i made sure it wasnt. but im not sure why it did it, it did it today as well.

i dont know. maybe im bugging and one of the buttons gets pressed while it in my pocket. the battery isnt dead tho once i boot it back up