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[G1 Android Development] beartard:
T-Mobile USA's policy is one, free unlock code every 90 days.

And I don't understand why you'd care about SIM-unlocking it, as the US version is really only good on T-Mobile's 3G network. T-Mobile uses different 3G frequencies than AT&T and the rest of the world. As I understood it, the European version will have a different radio set inside. I'd like to hope I'm wrong, but I understood that to be the case.
[G1 Android Development] warwolfx0:
actually i think the G1 could be used anywhere

http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html

850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHz

hex-band phone

i believe 900/1800 is eu band

and

850/1900 is at&t usa
[G1 Android Development] beartard:
You're confusing GSM frequencies with 3G frequencies. No phone maker yet has made a phone containing all the GSM frequencies, all the 3G frequencies, *and* the new tmo USA 3G frequencies. You can use the phone anywhere, but the 3G data would be crippled on anything but tmo-USA...and even tmo has said that the phone would pretty much suck without 3G.
[G1 Android Development] warwolfx0:
ok you may be right about the frequencies

but the spec dose say that

HSDPA/WCDMA:

Europe: 2100 MHz

so it may not work with at&t 3g

but it might work in EU on 3g
[G1 Android Development] beartard:
Again, that's not what I'm hearing. The G1 in the US is configured for download on tmo's 1700MHz spectrum and upload only on 2100MHz. If I recall correctly, Europe does it all on 2100. That's the part I hope I'm wrong on, but just having "2100" on it doesn't mean it's configured for the particular part of the band that the Europhones use.
[G1 Android Development] yamilrx:
90 days of continued satisfactory service will do.
[G1 Android Development] rorydaredkign:
what you all forget is that he is doing it non profit.

all the time he has been doing these unlocks, its probably helped a lot to the upkeep of the site.
[G1 Android Development] MontAlbert:
WOW! that would suck if that was the case- i think i will wait until someone else over here in Australia has tried one first :-)
[G1 Android Development] bachviet:
Euro/Asia 3G (WCDMA Band I) uses 1900 for UL and 2100 for DL while T-Mobile AWS (WCDMA Band IV) uses 1700 for UL and 2100 for DL. However, WCDMA Band I was called UMTS 2100 therefore the confusion.

BTW the T-Mobile G1 is a dual-band HSDPA phone (T-Mobile AWS and UMTS 2100)
[G1 Android Development] hdbueller:
£15 = $45 Aprox. So maybe $50 US wasn't so bad after all, eh? LOL

Later......
[G1 Android Development] McHale:
it will *NOT* work on AT&T 3G:

Network	HSPA/WCDMA:

Europe: 2100 MHz

US:1700/2100 MHz

AT&T uses 850/1900. So I definitely will *NOT* be buying the G1. :(

-Mc
[G1 Android Development] dabs:
Erm.. Not quite. Sorry to be pedantic but it was way off..

1 GBP = 1.76340 USD

1 USD = 0.567086 GBP

∴

15.00 GBP = 26.4510 USD

from xe.com

It was up to 1 GBP = 2 USD for a bit a while back..

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[G1 Android Development] ferraripassion:
Who is offering it at 15 GBP?
[G1 Android Development] shuaige100:
My盖，要钱。:(:(
[G1 Android Development] beartard:
That's exactly what I'm saying.
[G1 Android Development] The Great NY:
im interested in the unlock, but what exactly is the point of doing this?
[G1 Android Development] Yos025:
I received my unlock code yesterday from t-mobile. I unlock my code because I travel international a lot and usualy get a prepaid sim card from another contry to be use on my phone. I have unlocked every single phone via t-mobile...
[G1 Android Development] phatman81:
Just to ammend the staements from earlier...

1 unlock, every 90 days, PER LINE OF SERVICE.

I have also unlocked every phone i have from t-mobile. Many i submit for an unlock code the day i buy it... (i have 5 lines, so i always have a line the i can unlock a phone on :D)
[G1 Android Development] twistkill:
been with tmo for like 6 yrs now..everytime i get a new phone i just tell em "hey! i gotta go to india next month to take care of some things. i gotta use my phone there. can i have it unlocked?" and they do it, may it be a month or a week after i get the phone..as beartard put it, tmo is one of the most liberal service providers when it comes to unlocking..

but that set aside, 50 quids is way too much for this, I saw ads for unlocking my tilt for $15-20 on even non-ebay sites...but then the brave will wait for the hardspls/cid unlocks to come out..
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
AT&T is also very easy to unlock too... Most Cell Phone Providers will unlock your phone if you just say you are not a customer and you want to use the phone else where. I got a Palm Centro before they came out because I was doing third party advertising for them. Called AT&T and said I got it for my job and they gave me the codes right then and there.

FCC is currently trying to make it so you can't keep anyone's phones locked. But they are having issues on whether it should be from the time you buy the phone or the contract expires. On a side note they are also talking about reducing Early Termination Fees.
[G1 Android Development] syrusfrost:
Hey look at that, TMO just sent me my unlock code. I got my phone on the 21st, and I always pay my bill.

Tmo loves us.
[G1 Android Development] ferraripassion:
You are getting the rate at 15-20 , only because it is T-Mobile USA.
[G1 Android Development] imfloflo:
Must see this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob32_fp24ag
[G1 Android Development] goodwinm:
I just requested my unlock code earlier today, when I get it I will try my AT&T sim card, and I will be VERY surprised if it works on AT&T's 3G. I am not expecting to be able to do anything beyond edge on AT&T.
[G1 Android Development] hetaldp:
Another Method is

http://rebelsimcard.com

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=xrATtFzo3Ns&feature=related
[G1 Android Development] ferraripassion:
Never use those unlock sim cards.

They damage the hardware and reduce your battery life etc.
[G1 Android Development] hetaldp:
Yup Unlock by Code is alsways Better as it Permanent and more Perfect method. Virtual Sim take lot more space in Sim slot make The Slot wide then it gets loose contact to normal SIM card.
[G1 Android Development] hetaldp:
Is there Any way to Bypass activation in Unlocked non T-Mobile Phones yet?

I have Boxed Packed G1 and eagerly waiting for Activation Bypass Method so i can Unlock it and use it in India.
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
So, finally, will it work in 3G speeds in Europe?

I have just bought one in NYC.

If it's not going to work in Europe, I'll have to return it untill Tuesday!

Thanks

EDIT: found this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=440555&highlight=unlock

It seems that it should work back in Greece...

Also: I bought it from a BestBuy store. Will it be unlocked?
[G1 Android Development] bhang:
free unlock tmob usa

So if you have been a tmob usa customer for 90 days(or know onw or can find one to barter with they did a dash for me 2 weeks. Ago and I'm 1 week into waiting on my G1 code, it should come tmob sent the req, I can't see why HTC would deny my request...

I would hate to see a TMob US cust pay for an unlock when tmob use does them free, tho it does seem odd that they still do it,few years back VSTREAM Was the only gsm in the states so they didn't care.

But now there are like 3 carriers running on diff freqs, but they still do it

I like to have a drop sim with false info on another net than my own, plus I have a multisim with all my family plan sims cloned on to it(using known unsecure sims for years after the hole was found even stupid'r than free unlocks) well that's enuff rambling, the afghani heritage of my "meds" can cause excessive rants

Bhang,bang,bang
[G1 Android Development] ranger7424:
It took about a week before i got mine. I used an AT&T sim to unlock now i can switch whenever i want. I agreed, it should be ridiculous for anyone with T-Mo service to pay for the unlock code, yet people keep posting asking how to get one. All it takes is a simple call to customer service.
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
I'm not a t-movile customer! We don't have t-mobile here...

I'll have to find one or pay for unlock! dumn...
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
Just because you don't have them doesn't mean you can't call or email them and still get the unlock code.

Does anyone realize that the cell phone providers are being pressured by the FCC to give up the unlock codes?

There was a court trial a couple years back where someone sued. FCC said by 2010 or sooner that all cell phone providers will have to provide unlock codes. There was also talk about by 2012 all phones sold will have to be unlocked.
[G1 Android Development] ferraripassion:
But T-Mobile takes atleast 15 days to give you the code and am not sure what are their terms and conditions.
[G1 Android Development] phatman81:
I have never waited more than 2 business days to get a code for unlocked from t-mobile, just FYI...
[G1 Android Development] mrnagrom:
this needs a free solution.
[G1 Android Development] momentarylapseofreason:
Isn't this against the TOS of the site?
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
The second site needs 8 business days, it says so in some posts in their forums.
[G1 Android Development] heldc:
Not if you're a customer they don't. I just called this morning, and had the unlock code in my email in a couple hours.
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
I faxed them yesterday, and they emailed me the code 24 hours later. They're perfect!

I'm not a customer, I don't even live in the country. I just bought the G1 full retail price...

Good for them
[G1 Android Development] momentarylapseofreason:
In other words, they call T-Mobile and get your code ...then charge you for it.

Anything about unlocking the G1 should be automatic banning
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
why would they call T-Mobile? They all have calculators that give them the codes.
[G1 Android Development] bhang:
After getting the imei wrong once i got the code today ill apply it and post results asap, im doing some other g1 hacking at the moment

bhang
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
What did you have to send with your request?

I bought mine from ebay and wrote a mail to customer support and got no reply?

What did you tell them why they should unlock the phone?

Thanks
[G1 Android Development] bhang:
I just called tmobile 611 and told them I was going to europe and needed a code they emailed it in about a week and I did the same thing a week before for a dash I wanted to use as a prepay I just said my daughter was going to school in the EU (they DO take notes, some better than others)

so I REPEAT, any TMOBILE USA CUSTOMER that wants a g1 UNLOCKED call 611, DO NOT PAY!

I doubt it would even have to be your phone you could do it for somebody else if you have no need to unlock yoursthey dont track IMEIs and all the CSR does is email the tmobunlock dpt they email HTC and then Unlock emails you, back in the day when I first started unlocking my fones you emailed sumthin like simunlock@voicestream.com, but tmob had been the nets name for years at that time, just like all the APNs the G1 is the first phone to use an APN without a voicestream domain, I think they even call it an APC not an APN, maybe different tech that I don't know. social hacking the Tmob PDA dept. CSRs can pay off I turned him on to this place to put wm6 on the wiz and he got real talkative, learned some tidbits...

bhang
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
Not all of us are T-mobile customers...

I've heard there is no algorithm for the codes. There is just a huge table of IMEIs and their unlock codes, which was generated by HTC.

I've posted it here
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
Do you really think they "invented" a number for every of the 500.000 or more imeis?
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
No, but there could be an algorithm that generates 500 keys. Then another one generates 1000 unlock codes for each key. 500x1000 = 500K.

So hackers will have to work harder...

I don't know, that's what I've read. There is no unlock-keygen yet, and noone seems to be working on one..
[G1 Android Development] bhang:
that was a silly statment :)

AHHHH, Yes Yes they did.

500k is a tiny # for even a commodore 64.

A C+64 could generate a few million codes to be matched to an imei and stored in a database in about ~6 hours, a modern pc could do the same task in about as long as it might take to blink 3 times.

Keep in mind, the carriers want as much proof as possible that any handset they buy is sufficently network locked so if they give it to you at half retail price (knowing they will get 3x on the backend) you will be enslaved to them atleast as long as they want you to be.(much bigger concern in the EU where GSM is KING)

but here in the US unlocking isnt that big of a deal most folks dont even know its possible, most dont even know they can swap sims from 1 phone to another, they sure aint thinking the tmob phone they bought will work on AT&T, so Tmob USA unlocks as many customers as ask for the service, if the # of requests gets to high, Ill bet they will stop the service.

[SLIGHTLY RELATED RANT]

I just wish tmob at&t and the few other tiny gsm carriers we have here in the states would just let us roam on a net that was not our home net for a premium price.. ie: you are in the sticks with a tmob sim in an unlocked phone, the only reason you can use that At&t for anything but 911 is that the carriers cant figure out how to play nice with others, it should work and would bennifit the customers of both nets and they would charge a premium for these calls (aka roaming) it seems like a no brainer...it drives me nutz when I have weak or no tmob signal and i can get 5 bars on the at&t net but can only call 911, at those points Id pay extra for that service, you listening Mr. Carrier?

[/SLIGHTLY RELATED RANT]

but this a big reason why tmob will unlock phones for free

bhang
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
I think in Europe it's forbidden to lock a phone.

Also, we have national roaming (the thing you describe) even in our third-world Greece!

(for free between 2 of the 3 companies)
[G1 Android Development] bhang:
Havent you heard? the US is the third world now you EU guys have taken the lead with india & china following close behind, our ANALOG cell services just got turned off like 5 or 6 years ago, and we are just now turning off the analog TV...

I just call it like I see it, Maybe Barak will help us out of the thornBUSH we are in.

bhang
[G1 Android Development] AlfSimen:
People people. No need to argue about the making of the unlock-codes. After some years of computer-programming I can guarantee you that they some kind of algoritm to get the unlock-codes. Any other way would be stupid. When you have a preset algoritm all you have to do is run the IMEI-number through the algoritm and it would generate the spesific unlock-code for that spesific phone.

It works the same way with encryption on the internet. As long as you don't know the algoritm used, there's no way guessing the result.
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
We have that in Germany with a small provider, O2 Germany. While the network of o2 is not fully covering germany, they have a roaming agreement with t-mobile WITHOUT any extra cost for the o2 customer. So if you have no o2 signal, it switches to t-mobile, who have the best network in germany.
[G1 Android Development] sputnik99:
That is only true for some countries in europe.

In germany it is allowed, I think in France it is forbidden
[G1 Android Development] AlfSimen:
In Norway it's legal to lock the phone :(
[G1 Android Development] neoobs:
In the US the FCC is forcing all carriers (that is right I said all) to unlock phones. This works even if you DON'T HAVE T-Mobile. Even if you are not in the US. All carriers must agree to unlock the phone. If not you can take them to court and sue. Of course it doesn't say they have to give you the code right away. All carriers have done this for me.

But there is a way around it for the carriers. Verizon and Sprint give you a hard time if you want to switch phones, and because they use IMEI numbers you have to use one of their phones and thus making it pointless for anyone in the US to unlock them (there are exceptions and I have found a few employees who ignore the rules in my area)

Stop paying for the codes, they are not just some random numbers, there is a calculater and the companies paid HTC for it. T-Mobile doesn't pay HTC and that is why it takes longer. You can get it expedideted if you tell the rep over the phone that you need the code immediatly because you are leaving the US and if you don't get it you will cancel and sue. (yea it is harsh but that makes them get on top of things)

ATT is the easiest to unlock using their emergency tech support after hours to get your unlock codes (used them for tons of phones so far except the iphone)
[G1 Android Development] bhang:
multi sim in a g1

antbody tried a multisim in a gi on most phones have stk which can run small "apps" from the sim

wtf goog?

bhang
[G1 Android Development] hetaldp:
STK is under developments it will be available in Feb 2009 as per Android Time Lines published
[G1 Android Development] tengtengvn:
I got the G1 last week, actually 3 of them.:D Just called t-mobile and told them I'm going out of country next week. The rep will send me the code and instruction tomorrow.

That's why I love t-mobile. Everytime I dial 611, someone will take my call in 1 or 2 mins. :cool:
[G1 Android Development] nocomp:
perfect unlock
[G1 Android Development] capati971:
????? and orange?
[G1 Android Development] ferraripassion:
What about orange?

Currently G1 is only with T-Mobile
[G1 Android Development] sawlwin:
Any solution for overseas customer? I had bought it from eBay & T-Mobile is not able to provide me the unlock code.

how about changing to cooked ROM & SPL?

Anyone can advise me ?
[G1 Android Development] :
actually, 90 days of service and you can request unlock code....
[G1 Android Development] anielk77:
I think the policy they use in holland is worst ever!!

they will charge you 120 euro's if the phone isn't 1 year old :mad:

So please help me unlocking the G1 :D
[G1 Android Development] cmavr8:
Just tell them you can get an unlock code for $25 online and laugh...
[G1 Android Development] tupisdin:
Sorry for not answering for a long time. I was on holidays.

Please send all requests by P.M.
[G1 Android Development] vladyesayan:
Here is one small concern about your claim of a necessary presence of algorithm.

G1 has 8digit unlock codes.

that is 100mln codes.

Now here is what you do. You take all of the IMEI numbers, define a loop, generate a random number (ok call it a pseu-random) between 0 and 99,999,999, format it to 8 digit. All that takes a manageable amount of time.

Than hard wire those numbers into a tiny ROM chip. So you got the IMEI number, the code, and (lets assume you want the phone to be permanently locked after three attempts) four bits set to 0000(the_bits). a very small processor (all you need is like 10 silicone atome crystal microchip) which TAKES THE IMEI number, the Unlock Code, and on the output end either there is 0 (no power) or 1 (current present).

and it's hardwired to execute a simple algorithm:

if(the_first_bit_of_bits equals 0)

If (the_inuput_imei_number equals the_hardwireded_imei_number

AND

the_input_unlock_code equals the_hardwired_imei_code

AND the_second_bit_of_bits is 0)

SET the_first_bit_of_bits to 1 //unlock the phone

RETURN 1

else

SET Add 1 to the_bits

RETURN 0 //wrong code

else

RETURN 1 //already unlocked

now for real world implication you also need probably an interface to query

the chip if the phone is already unlocked and/or for which carier/country

so probably you might need more than just one bit indicating the unlocked/locked state.

in this kind of setup (which would be cheaper than implementing, a closed chip running an algorithm), you either need to know the code, or have to know the circuitry of the devices board, and alter it to always have current on the exit legs, or cut the cheep and 'read' the code with an electronic microscope.
[G1 Android Development] RoamenCota:
If you tell them you are going to a far off country where they dont have service and you tell them you are going on a business trip and need the mobile wifi in the other country with a sim card in their other country then they will provide it to you via email. BE SURE to ask what roaming rates would be and theyll say something ridiculous like 15 dollars per kilobyte, then be like, yea i totally need that key please. if you play it out right they might feel sorry enough to do it, no guarantees though.

i had unlimited everything tho and 6+ months of service but someone try and plz respond
[G1 Android Development] jfeyrer:
how are these online sites getting the codes?
[G1 Android Development] jfeyrer:
is there a program or somthing?
[G1 Android Development] crz6662:
Try ebay 1st. I recently acquired an ATT LG CU920, went to a site, paid $15.00 for a code that never worked. After about 30 days I finally got my refund.

Found a guy on ebay (no longer online there) who sent me a code in 1 day for $2.00 and it worked. Just use paypal in case their not reputable.
[G1 Android Development] armoguy94:
My friend using AT&T wants to buy a G1, so I called T-Mobile and they said all I have to do is put my sim card into his locked G1, then call T-Mobile, and they'll unlock it. Simple if you're in the U.S., just have a friend with T-Mobile.
[G1 Android Development] crz6662:
That may be but your going to have to hang on to the phone for about 24 hours. It's not instantaneous. They email the code. He knows he won't have 3g, right ?
[G1 Android Development] armoguy94:
The rep said the card had to be in only for a few hours. In the end, you just want the phone and its IMEI to be registered with your account- it doesn't even have to take an hour, from past experience. I know, it takes up to 14 days to email the code. I unlocked my own G1 and I got the code from HTC the next day, while my MyTouch slide took all 14 days. It's fine. And that's true, I haven't told him he won't have 3G, but I don't think he'll care at all because he just wants the G1 for its keyboard - it takes him forever to text on his Razr (sad that he's still using it).
[G1 Android Development] crz6662:
Hell, my girl wants another Razr. She really loves that phone. Though they are a slight pain to text with.

My code came via email in 1 day. Did HTC charge for he code ?
[G1 Android Development] cmcmyers:
T-Mobile sent me the code via email, after I told that I upgraded to a G2 and I wanted to give the G1 to my sister, but she was gonna change to another provider... Got the mail with the code like in 2 days, and it worked fine....
[G1 Android Development] cmcmyers:
Ps. the buy a few codes online, and they didnt worked at all... Always check for fake sellers or scam sites that say they can unlock it for a cheap price....
[G1 Android Development] monstermuffin20:
This cost £4 on ebay.

I used it to unlock mine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vientito:
I have been noticing lately that my you tuber apps stopped showing comments at all with whatever videos. for some strange reason i could still access my old comments by going to notification and click on them but i could not see any concurrent comments anymore. I install vanced to try but it does not show comments section anymore.

I have checked all settings but there are not any configurations for hiding that section anyway.

Please advise
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sensboston:
Have you checked "Vanced settings"? AFAIR, they have a trigger to turn comments off or on.

BTW, have you installed "Vanced manager" and latest versions of "YouTube Vanced" and "MicroG"? If not, please do it first.
[Xiaomi Mi 11i / 11X Pro / Redmi K40 Pro+] caleb586:
what app can i use
[Xiaomi Mi 11i / 11X Pro / Redmi K40 Pro+] sundhar88:
you can use google back up if not very concerned about privacy. or use mi mover app from playstore
[Samsung Galaxy A50 Questions & Answers] UNIVERSAL77:
Is there any mod that replaces the Samsung application with those from Google like messages, Google phone, calendar, clock?