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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
There is no smart dialing. There is SPEED DIAL: click-and-hold on "2" to dial speed dial #2. click-and-hold on "3" to dial speed dial #3 (speed dial #1 is still always voicemail).

To add a speed dial using iContact: go to the contact's details, then click "manage contact" then click "menu" then "add to speed dial"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] FraPow:
Hi,

first sorry for my bad english :(

Second, a great program.

But i tried to use it to switch my mobile Box with short commands:

idialer.exe ##002#

or

idialer.exe *62#

:mad::mad::mad: no function - incorrect Phonenumber.

Any Idea

FraPow
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Those aren't phone numbers... they're codes that only the built-in dialer understands. They're different for every provider, so iDialer can't support those.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
supbro there going to be a possiblity that idialer will work like icall that's supposed to come out for the iphone http://icall.com/iphone/ if so i would love to see it happen being able to switch from phone to wifi would be hot

but just thought i'd see if you had thought about it

but thanks for a great app
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I think VoIP quality, even over wifi, sucks big time. If the carriers aren't doing it and skype is doing it poorly, it's not likely that I'll be able to do it in my free time :) But maybe if there are command line options for [whatever voip client], iDialer can use that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmpid:
Any plan to make the Google Voice callback to work like the GrandCentral dialer? Chad Smith got it to work and posted the information here: http://posttopic.com/topic/google-voice-add-on-development

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Figuring out the right URL's took only a few minutes. Integrating it with iDialer is where the real work was. Google Voice forces SSL, whereas GrandCentral does not.

For those who prefer the callback method, can you explain why? I like the calling card method better than the callback method for 2 reasons:

iDialer does not have to know my Google login information

I only have to press one button on my phone to place the call. With the callback method, I have to press "call", then wait a few seconds, then press "answer". That's twice as many buttons.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
Help help help!

Okay guys, I have been at this for days. I used to grand central but upgraded to Google voice. Now I have installed the new dialer w/ GV support but I cannot for the life of me get it to work. I've used the config tool with my cell # first, then selected GV and my GV # but no dice. I also tried different combinations of my # and GC/GV #??? Im stuck can anyone help???

:confused::confused::confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Try calling your GV number from your cell phone, without iDialer. It should give you a menu, "press 1 for ..., press 2 to place a call, ...". See if that's what happens.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
Should I change my settings on GV, at the moment my forwarding # is my cell number...it seems like that would keep me in circles...

- I just called and it says the GV subscriber ....is not available.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
If you call your Google Voice number from your standard dialer, you should hear that menu. Do you hear it? If you don't hear that menu, then you have a problem with your Google Voice settings. Google Voice is smart enough to know not to send you in circles. It's like when you call your cell phone number from your cell phone: it goes to your voicemail menu, it doesn't try to call you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
No i do not. All i hear is the message "the google voice subscriber you have reached is not available please a message at the tone"

-k, let me try to mess with the GV settings to see where the problem is.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gazpachoking:
OK, I am probably being an idiot here, but I can't get it to dial through google voice. I used the online configuration to enter my GV number, but when I dial it uses the regular phone dialer. How do I switch what service it uses? I saw reference somewhere to clicking the title bar to change service, but that just closes the dialer. Any Help?

EDIT: Well, I answered my own question, thought I would post in case someone else is having this trouble. I ran the online configuration from Opera Mobile the first time, this cab seemed to install fine, but apparently did nothing. I generated the config cab from my pc and copied it to my device and it works fine now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmpid:
With Gizmo5 Mobile or any Softphone or WM6 VOIP installed with Gizmo credentials, you get totally free calls without using cell phone air time, and the callback comes in instantly. And some people have got unlimited incoming cell minutes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmpid:
I have one suggestion. Since GrandCentral Mobile is still accessible for those GV accounts upgraded from GC, why not add support for GC Mobile. I took a look at GC Mobile, it looks that the callback number is not appearing in the dialing URL and needs one extra step to be set first. Other than this, you will only need to add "/mobile" in your coded URL. However, I didn't write the code to fully test it. :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
oh okay that's good stuff just figured i'd ask this is a really great program now if only google will give us the option to do a number switch were we can take a current number and sorta port it over and let us keep a number we already have and then switch the grandcentral/google voice number with our carrier
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
Ive been trying to fix that exact problem for days now. I believe that my settings for both GV and the configuration are off. Can you post them here or msg me them...I know it sounds stupid but i had this working like a charm when it was GC.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlaci:
Dialpad Volume

Helo,

The new Dialpad volume feature is great. I set it to 1, but it is still very loud on my Hermes. Is it possibel to lower the volume more?

Regards.,

LJ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Are you by chance using an old version of iContact, or Burt's or Ender's edition? Try it with the latest version of iContact.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I wish I knew how!

It's a good idea, I'll see what I can do.

Already done!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] andrewjb:
This site has a windows xp dialer http://gcdialer.thedblc.com/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pw-man:
Duh! Thanks... opened in GIMP as exported as a .png.

pw-man
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Awesome. Guess my own Dialer program is a bit pointless now!

Couple of features would be good:

SpeedDial (with some form of disable)

Changeable number format

A few other things... I may PM you with them
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
I still don't understand.. will it not work with burt's edition? when you run iDialer it works really great, but it doesn't work THROUGH iContact.. when you click favourites and then the dialer again it will open the regular dialer.. not iDialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hazeline:
Woah, Dam nice

I am jumping for joy, finally i found this dialer, Thanks man!:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Drybonz:
Very awesome! Thanks!

Will be so great if it can completely replace the windows default dialer.

Black or grey to replace the blue-ish tones would look nice with a Diamond.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
there are many dialers out there.. one of them looks almost EXACTLY like this one. you can replace your default one. this isn't meant to replace your default one but to supply a dialer for iContact (to my understanding)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
which one?

How? (and skinning doesn't count)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395086
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appan:
finaly came across a good dialer, but this wont work with burt edition icontact :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spuzzum:
RE: Phone number on image

it is an actual number in boston bar, british columbia , canada , where i grew up.

Funny Huh?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] WIzard200x:
This is really nice :)

great addition to your I-contact version, supbro

One thing though, apart from the earlier mentioned smartdail, videocall and so on.. The hardware button mapping doesn't seem to install right. ie. when I hit my phone button it still comes up with the original dialer skin.

Looking forward to the integrated version... Great work, bro
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DrForIslam:
Very nice:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] omarnone:
Is there any way this can work properly on my Diamond phone?:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Please describe how it does not work. It works fine on my VGA emulator...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
i've been using this plugin and i would have to say it works really well it auto highlights all the numbers on the webpage that i'm on i assigned it to my work number since it's a landline if this could work with idialer that would be great i wonder if the guy released his source code so it could be reworked

i can also do this with my callwave account pick a number from my address book and get it to mimic my cell number but call from my work number
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I have GrandCentral dialing working in my development version. I just need to finish the UI.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
nice now if only my phone supported 3g (freakin wizard)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You could try "0"

The MIDI API (which iDialer uses to play the DTMF tones) isn't supported, so it's likely it works differently on different phones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
Im not too sure if this matters but the call back method worked better for me with grand central. My GC/GV number is one of my fav 5, so this allows me to make outgoing calls from that number at no cost.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sansnil:
So my phone must be the 'slow kid' in the class here...

Is there a way to increase the wait time after iDialer initiates a Google Voice call before it starts dialing the calling card numbers? I can hear it start to send touch-tones before the Google Voice sounds so I'm guessing a few more seconds delay will fix it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
But you can make outgoing calls to your fav 5 too, can't you?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
A couple people have mentioned this. I could increase the wait time, or make it configurable. I'll do that for the next release.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
Yes, but this acts as a gateway to calling any number, not only fav 5. This is my biz line, something I don't get reimbursed for so the old way worked out fantastic.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
This is how the GrandCentral option for iDialer works. However it appears that GrandCentral changed their mobile site... it's probably only slightly, but I'll have to debug it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
But even using the calling card method, you are still only making outgoing calls to your GV number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pcurel:
Im not too sure how to use the calling card method. Could you explain? My apologies for being hard headed.

Also when on the config util am i supposed to use MY cell # then select GV then my GV#?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
iDialer does it for you automatically but basically, it calls your GV number, waits a second, dials "2", waits a second, and then dials your outgoing number. You can test it manually to see how it works.

You don't need to type your cell number on the config anywhere; if you just want to always use Google Voice, just select Google Voice from the service 1 dropdown and type your GV number in "Phone Number".
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sansnil:
Cool, thanks, Doug. It's probably best if you can make the delay configurable with a reg setting if it's not too much more work as I'm going to guess phones will vary and of course Google might tweak something down the line.

S.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] solox:
Wishlist:

Custom dialing sounds. So i can use my talking robotnumbers i have on storage card :)

Hey u make great applications i think
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ebonygirl:
Speed. For my Alltel 6800 calling w/ the callback number seemed to be faster and I have had problems calling out using the calling card method (5% of the time) where GV says the number I am calling is invalid. I assume like others that GV simply missed the first number or two.

Love the app & can't live without it. I would encourage others who rely on this app like I do to visit the authors page and do the right thing by clicking on that orange button :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tucahara:
@supbro

are you thinking to integrate a voip-calling?

pjsip+sipek have a nice GPL voip client.

It will be great to have Cellular/Voip integration with iDialer...

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
That looks cool. It would be nice to be able to make it that flexible, but I'd want it to be an add-on. Many people simply use iDialer as a replacement dial-pad and don't want the extra bulk of a SIP client.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlaci:
Hi, 0 works, completely silent, much better :-) Maybe a short click would be the best solution, or changeable the duraion of sound in msec :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
If you want it to make a shorter beep, click the button faster.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ron-tx:
Increase font size

Is there a place in the registry for iDialer to increas the font/number size on the dial pad?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
No, it's already as big as it can get while not overlapping the keys in landscape mode.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] heberman:
Fantastic Job

Great job on this app. I found it through a Google search of "google voice windows mobile".

Everything works great. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
If you want a longer delay, you could always use the calling card option. In the config, choose "calling card". Then for prefix, enter your GV number followed by "pp2pp" and in the suffix enter "#"

For instance:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] makkonen:
So, I assume the reason this hasn't been done is because it's way more complicated than would be sensible for a little lightweight dialer application; but I'll ask anyway. Is there any way to have iDialer hook into the call history and report the correct contacts? I'm trying to bite the bullet and switch over to making all my calls through google voice, and having all my outgoing calls in the history say 'Google Voice' instead of the actual contact is a little chink in the facade.

If it's not possible in the current scope of iDialer, will it be if you expand it to handle the in-call screen as well? I don't know how the low level communication between the internal contacts/call history/phone app all work, but it seems like something that wouldn't want to be pulled apart by an application running on top of it.

Also, as to this:

For the vast majority of cases, I'm totally in agreement with you. The calling card method is faster, smoother, and less complicated.

However, sometimes I have no cell access, but have wifi. Or could be running low on cell phone minutes, but have wifi access. In this case, with iDialer + Grandcentral + Gizmo + windows mobile's VoIP functionality, I had a completely free and almost completely seamless SIP phone. Now with Google Voice, I think I'd need to log into the Google Voice Mobile website to make calls ring back to the SIP phone. Frankly, it's a vanishingly slim edge case where the callback functionality would come into play, and the benefit is minimal... but it's still kinda cool.

Anyway, enough rambling. Without any changes, your application is elegant and supremely functional. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dividivi:
+1 for this. It would be really awesome if calllog shows the actual contact instead of GoogleVoice.

btw, I absolutely love this app. Thanks for the great dialer!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I should be able to modify the call log database... but I'm holding off on that until iDialer fully handles the call (with in-call screen, etc). I know the call log database gets updated after the call is complete and by that time iDialer isn't running anymore.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yeah... imho, ringing another phone besides your cell is a good reason to do the callback method.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] makkonen:
Thanks for the quick responses. Cool to know that the call log database can get jacked into, but that sounds like it's definitely outside the scope of the app at this point.

All the talk of calling card methods (along with a post on boingboing a few weeks ago about an android calling card app) got me thinking, and I just installed the demo of MagiCall, to see how it compares. For anyone wondering, you can set up a rule to replace outgoing calls to anyone/everyone so it dials in through your google voice number*, just like iDialer, but it keeps the call log/in-call info the same. Then you can use iDialer/iContact in regular phone mode, and everything works out ok.

Then again, for the benefit, the price is pretty steep.

Then again, it also looks like it can do a bunch of other crazy stuff. None of it seems that useful for me, but I'm going to play around with it a bit more before casting judgment.

*In case anyone wants to give it a try, you set up a rule with Rule Type: Outgoing Call, Filter Type: All, Action1: Change dialed number, Call to: NNNNNNNNNN,2,{phone}# where those 10 Ns are your GV number.

Sorry for the threadjack.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gthing:
Hey if you're up for it, I found the unofficial google voice URL calls for sending and receiving text messages. It may be outside the scope of iDialer, but it sure would be nice to have!

Send an SMS: POST /voice/sms/send/ id=&phoneNumber=[number to text]&text=[URL Encoded message]&_rnr_se=[pull from page]

SMS inbox: https://www.google.com/voice/inbox/recent/sms/

What do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] raz0r09:
Hy,

don`t work on my Touch HD. The resolution of its display is WVGA. Is that the reason? I installed your dialing pad but there is still the standard pad!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I've been playing with those for a few weeks now. But SMS, like you said, is beyond the scope of a dialer program. If I ever get to do a SMS app similar to iContact/iDialer, you can be sure that it will have Google Voice support. Unfortunately, I have too much to do right now (who doesn't?)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
It doesn't replace the built-in dialer. iDialer doesn't have any in-call functionality (yet). It is simply a dial pad with big buttons (and Google Voice support).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gottago:
Just downloaded iContacts, idialer and Greenbutton last nite and when I went to bed everything was working just great. I was able to make calls from my Sprint Touch on my native number as well as make a call using GoogleVoice. I was so excited that I could hardly sleep.

Well, today I went to show off my new found applications and I was unable to dial via GoogleVoice. Now, I do have my Sprite Backup set to run at 3:30am or so and Microsoft MyPhone to run at 4:45am or so and in this process there is always a soft reset. Well, this afternoon I activated iContacts, found who I wanted to call and pressed the number and was so dissapointed that the call didn't go through. What I saw was my friend's name and my GV number in the standard in call screen. Then I heard a recorded message "the long distance number or access code being dialed is incorrect..." What could have happened between last nite and today? I reloaded the idialer configuration .cab but that didn't work. Anybody got any ideas?

gottago

Sprint Touch w/WM 6.1

SPB Mobil Shell 2.1.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fego:
Green button not working?

Hi,

I just installed iDialer last night, together with the configuration cab (only standard phone and Jajah) and the green button.

It looks very nice, but strangely the green button is not always working.

Let me explain the details:

I'm using an Elf with Tess 2.5 ROM, so with Manila 2D

Now I can access idialer from icontacts alright

If I open some other program and then press the green button, it opens iDialer, which is ok

But if I'm in Idle and press the green button it will open the default dialer!! Is it the phone bypassing greenbutton.exe?:mad:

Please let me know what I can do to fix this.

Thank you very much!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Is there a difference between the phone number you dialed last night and the one you tried to dial today? Maybe one didn't have a "1" in front?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
It could be that your home screen has a class name that GreenButton is setup to ignore. "Phone" or "Phone ". Or perhaps your version of M2D is intercepting the GreenButton.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fego:
Too bad.:(

Thanks anyway.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sansnil:
Hey Doug,

I didn't have a chance to get back to this until yesterday (pesky day job) but you were absolutely right. In fact, it turns out I had to educate myself a bit more on how Google Voice was working for my account. The problem was that even though I had my mobile phone set up as a number to pickup voicemail with wo/prompting for a PIN, Google Voice wasn't recognizing it as such because I was calling during a time I had the phone set to not ring through (NOT the do not disturb feature that seems ok). A bit quirky way to treat it IMHO, but hey, I'm not Google.

Anyway, once I fixed that little issue the normal Google Voice configuration in iDialer worked just fine with no need for additional time delay. But it was also good to understand that you can customize the dialing and timing if needed through the calling card configuration.

Thanks again,

S.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gottago:
To be honest, I didn't take note. Since asking the question, I have tried again with the same number that worked after install and I get the same response. In both of these cases I am dialing from my iContacts. I think I will remove and reinstall and see what my results are. The GV addin is something I have been looking for for years, effectively 2 numbers on my cell! This is such good work, I would hate for it not to work for me;-) Thanks for your response and continued support.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
How do you change the service currently in use short of manual registry edits?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gottago:
On my sprint touch, I just touch the upper left corner or the existing name showing.

gottago
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gottago:
So I finally got iDialer to work with my GV number. I had to use the Calling Card profile as the GV profile with and without callback didn't allow for enough pauses/time.

I have also noticed that GreenButton does not work within Mobile Shell whether iContacts is open or not. When in MS and I press the green hard button I always get the native dialer.

gottago

Sprint Touch w/WM 6.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dagordon:
Thank you so much for these great programs (iDialer, iContact, Green Button).

I was using Sunnysoft Calling Card for Google Voice on my Fuze but these programs are far superior.

One issue with Google Voice:

I have all of my contacts' phone numbers stored in the format +1 (555) 555-5555. That way I can dial them when I'm overseas.

iDialer seems to have a problem with numbers with the +1 in them when used with Google Voice. I connect to Google Voice, it automatically presses 2, but it seems like it never enters the destination phone number. Maybe it's freaked out by the '+'?

Sunnysoft Calling Card seemed to work fine with the contacts numbers formatted this way, and I'd like to keep them formatted this way for when I'm not using Google Voice. Any way to remedy this problem?

Thank you so much