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[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Find my Device still runs even when disabled.

As does Google Backup Transport and Framework.

Google play Services just does what it wants.

WhatsApp... you're kidding, right? I won't let that FB etc or any "social app" on my machine. Multiple security risks written all over (and into) it.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] wilpang:
20% overnight is a lot, I get 4% overnight with no special settings. How's the signal strength? I've noticed that signal strength can have a negative impact on battery when looking for a signal as you mentioned airplane mode seems better.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
It's using the internet either polling or transferring data needlessly. You need to find the source.

My 10+ can receive texts and calls at night and still uses only 2-3% in 6 hours with touch to see AOD running.

Before when Google Backup Transport was running (even though it was turned off) it was more like 8-10%. Gookill is a mess.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Well WhatsApp is need to communicate with my wife lol,and my family.

Where can I find these backup transport? I run through the settings and restricted background activity for many apps, I got to see overnight what my new drain will be so I can report you.

What carrier services does? If I restrict background activity will I still receive sms and WhatsApp?

The only apps I have installed on my phone which I installed are: Whatsapp, tapatalk, Kiwi browser (uninstalled chrome), youtube vanced and magisk. All the rest if the apps are the one that came with the firmware. I uninstalled a lot of them plus some packages through adb. Still Google play services and carrier services are the most demanding. I don't want to loose the ability to use maps but only when I use it obviously. I want super low battery drain in idle
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Why not use text messaging instead? It's battery usage is low.

-You- really need to know what you are disabling... one at a time.

There are likely more than one or two apps contributing to high battery usage.

Play with it.

Like I said you can enabled/disable Google play Services as needed in settings.

You'll find Google Backup Transport Services and Framework there as well.

Each device and user are different, one solution doesn't work for all. You'll need to become familiar with your device to do this right.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
In settings where? And what should I restict or deactivate?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I think I solved the issue by resticting a lot of background activities through manage apps, usage access, revocation and permissions, now the phone stayed a 100% for more than 5hours

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[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Cell standby seems very high.

Try a network resort, clear system cache.

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[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Network resort? Where can I clean system cache
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
*reset
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Good morning,

it seems my battery has doubled or close. I've tested it with 12hours since 100% to 50% at this current moment, a heavy use (almost 2 hours mobile legends, and an hour of facebook and WhatsApp) with SOT right now of 3hours. which is way better than before, i'll keep going to the rest of the day with this 50% and see what will I achieve, i believe i can pass 7hours SOT easily with normal use during the day at work (no mobile legends).

my IDLE consumption remained the same with 5% over 7-8hours.

i'll see how I go to the rest of the day without additional charge, but seriously, I am so optimistic.

I still have most of google services, like Gmail, wearos, Google app, calender, google one, Fit, news, drive, due, games, find my device, youtube, and youtube music. all of them with no background activity except for gmail, fit, wearos and find my device.

Other apps, outlook, WhatsApp with optimised battery, and everything else no background activity.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Did you apply any particular trick? Personally I few hours ago applied the magisk script to optimize Google services and starting from tomorrow I will track the new usage. I am right now at 50% Battery. AP mode and UBS have been used during working hours. I have made many phone calls and browser activity. This is the state today

4h SoT is spectacular at 50% considering the phone has been used with a mix of 5g and 4g throughout the day. anyway I expect the max I can reach now is 8h as from 50% going down the battery drains a bit faster. But I am very happy now. And Xiaomi Services Framework is still installed. This is also the figure of the battery drain during working hours with battery tricks

BOOM!
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Another figure here, 1 more hour SoT from 50% to 42% (in 4g area, even though prefer 5g is activated). With this projection (1h SoT every 8%) I should completely drain my battery at the amount of 10+ hours
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Btw, I noticed that your kiwi browser is draining much of battery, in 52mins in a previous photo it drained 2735mAh. While chrome for me drained 400mAh in 20mins. You should reconsider, right now I am testing edge.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I see that, I am using Kiwi because it has a built in AD blocker. What would you recommend?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
I am not the right person to ask, I've been using Chrome for a long while, tried edge for a period which was amazing, then switched back to chrome when I faced few bugs in edge (they were really annoying but fixed now). So I literally just switched back to edge to test how is it going.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
Firefox or a modified open source Mozilla broswer: Mull.

https://github.com/Divested-Mobile/Mull-Fenix

Firefox based Android web browser can install uBlock Origin, the popular powerful adblocker on PC web browser.

Be ware, adblock function itself may need additional calculation, so maybe will use more battery power, not a definite though.

Close unused tabs as well, or at least bookmark to read later. Each time the browser starts, it will load every tabs, which uses battery power.

Try and error, life is just like this.

Nothing is perfect, everything comes at a price.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I've just installed Firefox which is now undertesting,so far seems much lighter than Kiwi,this may result in a better battery life throughout phone usage, looking forward to report
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Honestly I didn't like Firefox, the usual web pages I visit were showing rendering errors,plus it was much slower than kiwi in rendering pages, so I uninstalled it. Maybe should I try Opera?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
What adblock way do you want?

If you want strictly using uBlock Origin, only Kiwi, Firefox and Yandex.

If you just need anything that can do adblock, many of the browsers now have ad block built-in, but not all have the same ad blocking abilities.

Vivaldi, Opera, Opera GX, Edge, Brave, Via, Bromite, Kiwi...

If you want system-wide adblock, AdGuard, Blokada, AdAway, DNS66...

Try and error. Find the one you like.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I feel pretty good with Kiwi before realising it is way too much consuming, I tried Firefox with Ublock origin but rendering wasn't as accurate as kiwi and also slower
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
Use the Samsung Internet Beta with any ad block plugin (there are many, you can also have more plugins active at the same time).

IMHO the best browser overall.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Where can I find it? Simply Play Store? May I ask why the beta and not the normal one?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
Samsung Internet Browser Beta - Apps on Google Play

Try out Samsung Internet's latest features, one step ahead!

play.google.com
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I am writing from this Samsung browser now even though I installed the stable and not the beta(what is the difference?). First thing I don't like is that the adblock ad on is installed as an external app
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] tetzu:
Can you share what app that you disabled usage access?

Thank you
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
It's not exactly a stand-alone app, it's a plugin specific for the Samsung browser.

The beta app is months ahead of the standard version, I mean the beta becomes the standard after some time.

Both the beta and the standard can be installed together at the same time.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Which one is the fastest in your opinion? I think kiwi is still slightly faster than this Samsung browser, at a higher battery cost obviously. Regards the plug in, yes I know but it appears in the app drawer as a stand alone app (you just modify the settings ).

It definitely seems to consume less battery than kiwi thought.n
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Sure

Camera

Google Play Store

Google Play Services

Quick app Services Framework

System Apps:

Backup

Bluetooth

Market feedback agent

Nfc Service
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
I currently use (and always used) the beta version since my Samsung S7 Edge.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
Via Browser is the smallest file size browser at the moment with only 1.5 MB.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mark.via.gp&hl=en&gl=US

It make use of the built-in app Android System WebView to achieve small app size.

Personally didn't try it, so no sure how fast it will be.

Kiwi browser has an update recently, so you may also try update it.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
I've tested edge now for a while, just basic without adblocker and it is waaaaay better and faster than chrome. Nearly 1/5th or even less of the power of chrome.

Give it a shot. You might like it
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Well I could, I must say that Samsung browser is quite nice, it's a bit more refined than kiwi (which is basically chrome with an adblocker),seems to consume slightly less battery and being on pair with kiwi in terms of speed (slightly slower but just on some websites)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Anyway I believe that the most battery consuming activity is due to 5g, yesterday I spent a day outside with heavy use of Google Maps , few phone calls and mix of 4/5g and phone battery from 100% to 0% lasted roughly 10hours with 6h SoT, my previous screen has been taken with mostly 4g where I had 4+hs of SoT at 50% battery
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Personally I find Kiwi still the best in terms of performance and usability, samsung browser might consume less battery (I'm not sure of this actually as I had similar results in terms of SoT with kiwi and Samsung),but it loads slower on cold boot and loads web slower, also is more than 600MB app and needs external app as add on. I Tried Edge as well but I didn't like, I couldn't switch to home without hitting the menu botton and I couldn't add fast links to the home page.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Just to keep you updated. Battery drain is indeed very good and looks to improve the more I use it.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] galr:
Only Brave - THIS IS THE WAY :)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Brave Browser? I heard of it, would you recommend it?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Sathelp:
I have been using Brave for ages. Cuts out lots of adds. Based on Chrome but does the job and sync's between phones.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Is there any way to set on Brave homepage my preferred websites?

Edit: honestly I uninstalled it, I didn't like it, in terms of speed was like kiwi and that was good but I didn't like all of those advert about rewards and tge fact I don't have control on the homepage
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
I am not even close to what are you achieving, i'll give more details of what I've done so if you got a chance to guide me through it please?

btw, its almost a week without xiaomi services and sim activation, I can just say everything is going perfect. but maybe worth mentioning my sims are already pre activated. not sure if it would cause any issues if I put new sims.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Honestly regarding Sim activation I never managed to make it work. To achieve what I do you must be really accurate in switching on and off ultra battery saver and airplane mode, as I said I use both overnight and when I work, and I use ultra battery saver as lock screen, I have a book cover so what I do when I want to lock the device, I click on ultra battery saver in the control center and close the cover (the phone will lock itself in 15sec). With this system basically I achive depending on usage between 6:30/8h SoT
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Filip.Z:
I was worried about battery in idle, but this is behavior on EU Rom 12.5.11. On chinese ROM, it was the same. In 16 hours just 1% of battery is drained.

I am aware of the apps I put on my phone and Facebook, Whatsapp atc. have close doors :)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
And this without airplane mode or ultra battery saver? Incredible, what are your settings? Seems like you have dark mode activated right?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Filip.Z:
I use airplane mode from midnight to 7am, then it's full on - wifi on etc. All 16 hours were idle, so I woudn't do anything with the phone.

Once I start using it, it's different story, but I'm satisfied too. Yes I use dark mode, Full HD only and since I'm using the phone mainly for testing videos (McPro24FPS), I use 60 Hz instead of 120, which is a shame, but I need every bit of a power :)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Without using Airplane mode + UBS I cannot achieve those results, power on I use it maxed out (5g, light mode, 120hz, wqhd+ no battery saver), and I get 8SoT easily
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I Tried tonight to have a calculation of my SoT within 24h
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] galr:
That's ironic though.. Brave is the only browser with such and amazing adblock built in :)

The idea is that when a company put ads in website, you see the ads and they are getting paid (the site owner). But with brave they cut the middle man and basically tells you, you can CHOOSE to watch ads, and YOU will get paid (in BAT) for it. You can just decide not to participate and then you just get ad-free browser. No youtube ads, no ads anywhere..and without rooting the phone.

PS, you can configure the home page in the settings.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
No I cannot choose my favourite on the main page and kiwi browser does the same, adblock with no root (I have root anyway)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Psych0t1c20:
What magisk module was it that optimizing google services?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] aman90s:
Uninstall the apps that you use rarely.

Never manually close the apps.

Remove unnecessary widgets from the home screen.

Turn on Airplane Mode in low-signal areas.

Go Airplane Mode at bedtime.

Turn off notifications.

Don't let apps wake your screen

Hope it helps
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Universal GSM doze
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] eried1:
How to lower deep sleep drain? Mine is at 0.4%, per hour. Way too high.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Arcide:
How is that too high? Seems about right
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] eried1:
Well, I am greedy 😁

My signal strength is quite bad, so I guess there's nothing I can do to improve battery idle time.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
I manually close Brave when not in use otherwise it will run in the background and use a considerable amount of power. Each app is different; no one fix fits all!

Observe the behavior then decide on the best plan and see if it works.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
where is the option?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Easiest method, go to settings, search bar "reset" and first option will be reset wifi, mobile netwrosk and Bluetooth.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Speaking of Battery drain, I see my "Android system" is taking majority and really high battery drain. any explanations? as per some other reports, I've signed out of Mi Account also to minimize battery drain, and not sure if it improved my battery,

my battery is draining nearly 5%-10% an hour,

120Hz, adaptive brightness, smartwatch connected, wifi, dual sim connected, location (background restrictions on all apps, no consumption), when I check battery details, (Android system) takes the lead and all other consumptions are minimal.

Version 12.5.2 global official, bootloader locked. I haven't done factory reset after update to 12.5.2.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Today I checked the battery stats and "media storage" consumed a lot of battery,why? What's this media storage? What does it do?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
Media storage contains the index of all the media files stored on the phone.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Yeah and why was this in use? By what?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
The music player and the video player use it.

Even ringtones folders are indexed.

In general, any folder that contains media files is analyzed and indexed.

Unfortunately the .nomedia file doesn't work reliably in MIUI.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Honestly is the first time I see such a use from this media service, I wonder what kicked it in. Anyway after restricting many apps battery life improved considerably. At least yesterday overnight after 6 hours battery was still at 100%. Today after 8 hours was at 98% . Probably I could still squeeze a bit of juice, but I'm very happy the way it is at the moment considering I'm not affecting any functionality of what I use
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
How were you able to get this much of power saving overnight? I still sleep at 100% and wake up at 94%
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Well a good amount of debloating and many restriction on usage and data for many apps. I gotta check tonight as well and post my results tomorrow and I can drive through it.This at the moment is today's
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
you have 21hours of usage and still 50%, that is a full day.

how come your screen consumption is lower than other apps? and android system is killing my battery.

do you have super wallpaper on? always awake? (I have it for 10sec's). any services on like wifi, Bluetooth, location? what rate is your screen set at? auto brightness? and i still believe these services should not draw all my battery, there is something else.

do you recommend a factory reset? i'd avoid this step at all costs, if you can guide me through it.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Nope I don't use super wallpapers (it's cool but battery consuming) and AOD is set to off, (I have a diary cover so my front screen is covered and don't need it as well as light up for notifications, I use the blue halo for that) I have my screen brightness set manual at around 40% (if I need more brightness I set it manually). Wifi is generally set to off as I use only 5g (I have an unlimited plan and use only wifi when I am at work), Bluetooth is also set to off as I don't need it, location is set to on always. I disabled all the autostart for apps. I also set battery background restriction for many apps (I'll give more details tomorrow). I also set background data restriction for many system apps. And disabled usage access for many apps as well as I disabled permissions and the ability for apps to control wifi. I have only 3/4 apps installed myself (WhatsApp, kiwi browser, tapatalk and YouTube vanced and magisk for root) all the rest has been debloated through adb (I'll post the list of the packages I unistalled). This is it for now. I just charged my phone and running it now idling overnight and post a screen tomorrow to see how this is going, it looks very promising so far, I also managed to get notification on rear screen for sms besides whatsapp (15sec AOD). All the screen enhancement are on: full WQHD+ (with no battery saving), 120hz,AI image enhanced, HDR+ on. Animations are set to 0.5x through developer options. Factory reset is useful if you mess up with something, in this case it is a matter of playing with the settings first. Can you post a screen of a daily usage of yours please?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
This is the situation so far

I still don't get what triggers media storage
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Enabling power management can cause erratic behavior and frequently uses more battery🤣🤭

I never use it.

Track down the hogs...

Android system usage looks high. Media storage... WhatsApp is a prime suspect and may also be spiking Android Services along with power management.

Nothing's for free... lots of dependencies there that are interacting. It can be a challenge to sort it out; trail and error.

Constant internet polling is a telltale sign an apk is running amuck.

I use Karma Firewall to detect this but it's valuable logging feature doesn't work on Q and above I think.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Regarding power management I don't know what you are referring to, I don't think I am using any power management. Regarding media storage yes Whatsapp can be the culprit because of the daily google drive backup, I switched now to weekly to see if that makes any difference. Regarding Android system good luck what triggers that. If you onow some of the dependencies be my guest. I can only make a list of what I deactivated and then we can move from there
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active. If your Android is structured this way...

Android Services has dozens of dependencies.

Many aren't needed. Start picking away at them.

You can try disabling Android Services background usage but it's just a bandaid at best... and will probably cause some apps to malfunction.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I can't find standby apps in developer options
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Should be near the bottom of the list.

Maybe it's not on that variate.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
What is Bluetooth page scan? I thin android system consume more energy when wifi is active
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Yes, I never use wifi and it's a security risk. Not needed with an unlimited data plan unless you need to tether.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I use it when I am at work, I have no signal here
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Disable it when not in use.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I do it already.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Sometimes I wonder if you create more issues than solving them when you restrict certain apps lol. For example you restrict some apps then these apps trigger something they can never solve because you restricted them and they loop themselves consuming more than needed lol
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Yes... you're getting the idea. Android generally manages its self quit well.

Use it only when needed, one at a time, if it helps significantly maybe use it. In most cases it doesn't help.

If it's a rogue 3rd party app causing it... consider ditching it, modifying its settings and/or firewall blocking it.

Lots of trashware out there.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] JazonX:
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