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[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
ok.. i think its time for some statement..

1. memory management - yeah, all the new stuff needs memory to run and as new devices got plenty of it, the developers dont make programs that use less memory ... just like vista and xp

but there are some hints at the bottom of this post

2. flashing after removing some modules flashing will just be finer for todays version - i also note a long first boot time but didn't encounter any stucks or so.. more programs also means longer first boot

3. bt and disappearing - same with dataconnections ... its in the sys and windows doesn't remember pairings ... this gonna be fixed

4. please tell me if this is just better with my new rom

5. caused by the same as 3

1. the cursor thing - don't know what but your device might think it is a desktop - i don't get any cursors

2. data connections - really annoying but theres no fix. its the system that it doesn't write your connection settings into the internal database .. so conn settings are lost after restart. i'm going to upload a new version to fix this

3. looks like screen misalignment ... how about typing? you sometimes get wrong letters?

4. random stucks ... don't know about that yet - more specific?

yep thats really a quick dirty fix

you could also go into taskmanager -> click menu -> tabs options -> select tab -> services .... there you find mostly all the new stuff

TaskManager ... htc taskmanager

LargeTitleBar ... windows that appears when click on taskbar icons (volume network etc)

HtcVolume ... volume menu

EnlargeStartMenu ... large start menu

if you don't want any of these stuff

my recommendation

is:

tap and hold on the specific service -> set the service to manual

restart your device and go to taskmanager/services again

tap and hold on the specific service again -> disable

the service won't start again

this might already work with only the manual thing after restart, you can also try to stop some services but be careful not every service is able to be stopped.

you also will see that disabling services frees some program memory .. so if you really don't need it and you run out of memory (i know some ppl need it) you can disable these services. don't disable any other as you restrict the functions of wm.
[P3600 ROM Development] Aye75:
I have a question, did anyone ever got the quick GPS to work ?

mine always tries to download, but was unable to.. any specific reason ?

anyway at the end I decided to install the one from this thread on top and it works flawlessly again

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=463898

from the about page shows the same 1.0 version .. I wonder why the one included in the rom did not work for me.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Quote: Nosedive "...you could also go into taskmanager -> click menu -> tabs options -> select tab -> services .... there you find mostly all the new stuff

TaskManager ... htc taskmanager

LargeTitleBar ... windows that appears when click on taskbar icons (volume network etc)

HtcVolume ... volume menu

EnlargeStartMenu ... large start menu

If you don't want any of these stuff my recommendation is:

tap and hold on the specific service -> set the service to manual

restart your device and go to taskmanager/services again

tap and hold on the specific service again -> disable

the service won't start again

this might already work with only the manual thing after restart, you can also try to stop some services but be careful not every service is able to be stopped."

I tried the above but I was not given the option to disable "Large Titlebar", even after selecting manual and resetting device. So... I found the reg key like SuperSport did and deleted it. RESULT: everything except the volume control was reverted to normal windows setting, cool!

Then I installed that cab I found (like SuperSport did) and BINGO. I now have normal windows volume control.

So, thanks Nosedive for helping me find the reg key, thanks SuperSport for having the cojones to test that cab!

With that sorted, I am totally loving this ROM. A breath of fresh air for 2009. The "Nosedive Edition" on the bootscreen is well deserved and great to see. :-)

*** By the way, I found the windows cursor which Jakkkkk was referring to. It appeared when I selected HTC volume whilst running Second Today. It appeared as a "flickering windows cursor arrow" in the top left of the screen.

Now that I've removed HTC volume and LargeTitle Bar, it has stopped appearing. Weird!

Matstter.

p.s. I have got a mildly annoying "1" appearing on my Manila Message Tab, even though I've read it and replied..... any ideas anyone?
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
yeah.. forgot about something.. before you can disable any service, you also need to stop it..

so correct order is:

stop service -> disable (just w/o restart)

if not possible (you get a message like: the service cannot accept control messages at this time.)

set manual -> restart -> stop -> then disable

that should work then.. :D
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
Hey Dude, I got confused by some of your answers... :)

A. I was pointing out memory usage is not perfect. I meant I can soft reset the phone , put is aside with 56% usage of RAM, do nothing, and come back two hours later to see now it uses 70%. Obviously there are running services, and AS push mail, but I would expect it to release memory, and it seems it doesn't. To make a point - I have installed SKTOOLS and am running shadow service. that clears RAM. Not back to 56% as boot (with m2d on) but to about 63-65%. I get the point apps get to consume more RAM but I am looking at not freeing up memory when it supposes to. Besdies , same apps on other roms seem to cosnume less, or clear better and release unused RAM.

B. 'Blaming' XIP and windows are probably a valid 'excuse'. However, others managed somehow to overcome it. BT issues do not appear on the rom i use now, but do on yours. Take it as opportunity to improve, not critism...:o

C. Problem flashing - it wasn't long to boot, it made it brick my phone, where recovery did not work, and even dopod stock WM5 rom did not recover. i had to run XPLOIT to clear the flash and allow a fresh start. You have contributed few new white hair on my head..:p

D. What new rom do you refer too? Is there anything newer than 0.72 ? I could not see any, nor got a PM..

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] Jackuuuuu:
I can't get connected with data connection. I have reverted back to n610e.

Sorry, can't test further for you. I will wait for your new version :(
[P3600 ROM Development] cis_d810:
Thank a lot for u rom and Great job :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Andych:
OK, we have had this ROM running for a week now on P3600i. Pretty impressive once we got used to a few things.

I was playing around tonight and decided to have a long look in Advanced Configuration....what I found in Memory Management was that the default setting (activated) was not in fact the default, ie memory management is not automatically shutting down programs such as Activesync.

I changed it to active and rebooted....low and behold Activesync now doesnt show up straight away.

I have also changed my right softkey to point directly to Tomtom (seeing as it didn't want to go to programs from standard.

We will see how it goes over the next week but so far it is very quick and stable.

Well done Nosedive.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hi Andych.

Sounds like you made a good find! Can you confirm exactly which setting you activated in Advanced Config. Was it MMC Memory Power Management or AsyncMAC Power Management?

Thanks,

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
now that really sounds interesting..

i think everyone could benefit from this if you share your experience!

hey Mattster,

i guess you're mistaken..

Power Management <> Memory Management Andych was talking about..

but you're right, Power Management is not configured.. this will go into my update :D

thanks,

nosedive
[P3600 ROM Development] Andych:
I had to go back in and check...it was HTC Task Manager. Auto kill was turned off on initial install.

I was wrong about Activesync though, it seems it still needs to killed every time you bring the phone out of sleep mode. At least now though when I tap x to close a program it is closed, where before it would still be running in background.

Memory leaks seem a little better as well as after all my playing around last night with MD2 config, having Tomtom running a couple of times and opening and closing Advanced Config to look at settings (not modifying anything) it is still sitting at 56%.

I also noticed in Advanced Config under Internet Explorer that User Agent custom base is set for Mozilla 4.0. Is this normal?
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
k ... that really driven me crazy ..

but thats great you are enjoying my rom :)

the thing about the user agent.. yes this is standard since wm5 .. no need to change
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Two questions please:

1. Earlier this evening, I was unable to receive a file by bluetooth. My device was detecable but transfer not allowed. I could not see their device. Has anyone managed to receive files via Bluetooth with this latest update?

2. What do I need to be able to receive photos via MMS? At present I am directed to the website to download the photo. I would like to receive it directly as an MMS. Is it because the device does not offer automatic connection settings after the flash?

Thanks as always for any suggestions...

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
hey Mattster,

ad 1) i don't quite remember the specific bluetooth settings, but i recommend you check in your settings with obex inbox, if "disable file receiving" is enabled.

ad 2) some mms are provider setting - do other ppl receive the mms you send? or better: other ppl with same provider can receive mms like normal?

cu

nosedive
[P3600 ROM Development] junglykutha:
1. Beams are normally turned off by default......you'll have to turn them on.

2. yes you'll have to manually setup a picture msg connection and mms settings.
[P3600 ROM Development] MusTangAu:
Hi can someone post nosedive 0.7.2 i to filefactory.com or rapidshare as i can not download from mediafire.com - 4shared.com

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[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
damn.. i almost got eyecancer..

here's the mirror
[P3600 ROM Development] MusTangAu:
Many Thanks nosedive... sorry about the almost eyecancer... :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hi Nosedive.

Ok. So:

1. I've been into Advanced Config and enabled Obex.

2. I've checked in Settings / Connections / Obex Inbox Settings and "Disable File Receiving" is not on.

3. Settings / Coonections / Receive all incoming beams is on.

4. Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / Mode: "Turn on Bluettooth & Make this device visible" are both on.

5. Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP: "Enable File Sharing and Bluetoothe Explorer" are both on.

I have succesfully paired up with my pc.

I am able to send files via BlueTooth TO my pc.

BUT, If I try to send from my pc TO my device, I get a message on my pc:

"Remote device does not support service"

Any ideas? Has anyone out there managed to receive a file by Blutooth yet, just to check if it is working for others?

Thanks,

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
I tried to install the new "i" version but i can't. The installation freezes at 0% and then it tells me that theres a connection problem....
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
version i is only for htc p3600i ... do you own one?
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
ohh... its only for p3600i ? not p3600? i own p3600...
[P3600 ROM Development] raf1987:
please read the first page again... carefully... and you can see that there are two ROM versions available... 1 is for p3600 and 1 is for p3600i :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
yes yes i mentioned that, but i didnt know that there is a hardware difference between p3600 and p3600i . . .
[P3600 ROM Development] Jackuuuuu:
nosedive,

Any fix for the data connection??????
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
Installed your rom...

-The sound isnt as loud as other Roms (Can this be fixed?)

-When i turn on the phone it doesn't asks me for the PIN and the phone is disabled. (I have to open comm manager

switch and switch on phone)

Any help?
[P3600 ROM Development] sp00ky:
LOL........ :D
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Sorry to repeat myself, but has anyone managed to receive files via Bluetooth yet?

I've done the following, but am still unable to receive files:

1. I've been into Advanced Config and enabled Obex.

2. I've checked in Settings / Connections / Obex Inbox Settings and "Disable File Receiving" is not on.

3. Settings / Connections / Receive all incoming beams is on.

4. Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / Mode: "Turn on Bluettooth & Make this device visible" are both on.

5. Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP: "Enable File Sharing and Bluetoothe Explorer" are both on.

I have succesfully paired up with my pc and am able to send files via BlueTooth TO my pc.

BUT, If I try to send from my pc TO my device, I get a message on my pc:

"Remote device does not support service"

Anyone familiar with this problem?

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] Aye75:
I have some problem, not sure what I did .. I think after a restore from PIM backup .. but my sms'es in M2d is not the same as what appears in messaging .. messaging has a few sms'es while m2d has a lot more

are they reading from different location ?

wierd ...
[P3600 ROM Development] Kenzneth:
Thanks for you work

But... it is possible to add htc youtube in the rom?

it will be great to see this wonderful programme

thank you very much
[P3600 ROM Development] smittysmitts:
Installin as i type...35%...40%...45%...

I'll leave comments later wen i get back home.

65%...71%..:D cant wait...anwyays, laters guys.

Bless

Thanks for the ROM Man,...n i also wouldnt mind goin back to the

Manilla-less ROMs.

Its a pretty nice today screen n app laucher etc, but its causin too much headache.

ohh...100%...;) byeee

EDIT:

ok...counldnt wait till later...After first boot...

Free Storage: 59.55

Free RAM: 22.10
[P3600 ROM Development] amenatis:
how did you port the sys ?

I also tried to bring the sys 20755, but I have error messages "notification error" on the first boot on all executables

as you encountered this problem?

nb: i'm making a French rom
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
you get off-topic - this 3d should be about the rom

aside from this building was just fine

i recommend you read this thread about *XIP & SYS Porting Guide by ababrekar, How to Port a ROM [XIP and SYS] by ivanmmj, WM6 XIP and SYS Porting Tutorial by Garmin...
[P3600 ROM Development] amenatis:
excuse me

excuse me for the offtopic...

thanx for the answer..
[P3600 ROM Development] jaxf250:
Nice ROM .... thank you... one bug still: ringtones still not working. Was able to fix by creating a folder 'My Ringtones" inside "My Documents" folder, and putting ringtones in there I wanted to use. This also fixed the bug whereby you could not exit from the settings utility for rings & sounds.... this also now allowed me to use fexplore.exe to manually navigate to sound files and hold down to get tear-off menu to appear, and then select that file as the phone ringer tone... text on that menu choice was showing up as little square boxes - not sure what's up with that... anyway, my phone rings now... all is well! HTH someone else....
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
hey thanks for that

this topic is really confusing me.. before you did that, did the phone ring or not?
[P3600 ROM Development] smittysmitts:
:(

I donno what happened right...but i was busy tryin to take off some tabs from Manilla with the M2dC (installed version)...so wen i was finished, i pressed Apply/Ok and the next thing i know WM frooze.

So i managed to restart it,...since then, i havent been seeing M2D runnin at all.

Wen i try to look for it on the Device in the windows folder, i get it to run, but wen i restart its not runnin.

I tried makin the "My Ringtones" folder, but that didnt work for me.

EDIT

Ohh, and the music link didnt work either, i had to install Audio Manager.

ReFlashed
[P3600 ROM Development] jaxf250:
Sorry - should have given more info. I re-flashed with 2nd beta ROM and phone still would not ring, nor could I change the ring settings. After I created the subdir, I could change ring settings and set my ringtone. :D
[P3600 ROM Development] uk19xx:
agreed, just create "My ringtones" folder and you could change the ringtone.

tq.

By the way where is the Audio Manager Cab. file? Someone please share it?

TQ
[P3600 ROM Development] joyqing:
bluetooth has same problem as early, using coreplayer to play avi, stereo bt earphone is good but video can‘t play continuously.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
how is overall performance? did you notify quicker response on opening windows?
[P3600 ROM Development] jaxf250:
Performance is very good compared to 20273, and windows do open faster.

I would be happy to stick with this ROM but now I am having intermittent device lock-ups that require stylus reset and it is getting to be frustrating... not sure why... wonder if others are seeing this with this ROM...

The ROM seems really close to release-level IMO. Please keep cooking for us! I will keep testing as time permits.... :)
[P3600 ROM Development] smittysmitts:
When i create the folder and try to change the ringtone, i get a Ring Tone Error; This ring tone file is corrupted or unavailable. Please choose a different ring tone.

I get this msg for all 3 default tones, and i was gettin this same msg since yesteday before i Reflashed.

I attached it. But i got it from the Manilla 2D tread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398173
[P3600 ROM Development] smittysmitts:
I Agree, performance is fairly good, fast and jus about ready to release.

I too will also like to stick with this ROM, but not if it keeps freezin on me.

This is partly the reason i switched over from the

cmE 0.8 Manila (CE OS 5.2.222222)[ONLINE]

All the best, and lookin forward to Final version ;) Maybe this could be The Best Trinity Manilla ROM.
[P3600 ROM Development] yuxiaoyun:
I do really like this one ,but any mirror?

it is too slow to download,and i can not waiting for try the new updated one.

anyone can upload to firemedia or give me some mirror .please.

thank you .
[P3600 ROM Development] utnicki.h:
Here is link to madiafire upload:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zmqzkir43nm

Regards:)
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
the ringtone thing...

actually i got behind the problem.. its all about the 3 ringtone files in \Windows.. their name should be

Ring-Standard.wma -> Ring-Standard .wma

Ring-Vision.wma -> Ring-Vision .wma

Ring-WindowsMobile -> Ring-WindowsMobile .wma

this makes the workaround with the "\My Documents\My Ringtones" folder obsolete - but i recommend creating this folder as you can place your custom Ringtones there, the path for storage card is "\Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones"

i will provide a cab which takes care of that soon
[P3600 ROM Development] smittysmitts:
I changed the name of the files (added the space) and im happy to report that it works!

Now if we can jus find someway to keep the RAM up to 18Mb. :(

Anywys, until then...enjoyin this ROM n waitin on the next Release.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
ok here you go!

here is my cab and here what is does:

1) fixes the ringtone problem - you can now exit the ringtone page

2) bettery memory behaviour - apps are no more closed right after opening another app. apps stay opened

3) activated htc taskmanager - you can close now the apps from the today screen

cab is attached as well as right after download link of the first post
[P3600 ROM Development] rubbish.guy:
When can i received the newest rom :)

Ur Nice work! :D
[P3600 ROM Development] Andych:
I am not sure if this has been posted as an issue with P3600i yet. I tried to start Bluetooth yesterday so we could transfer a picture or 2 and it kept coming up with "hardware error".

I have had this before with other ROMs so I already had the BT fix cab.

Loaded this and now BT works fine. I haven't tried transferring any pictures but at least now it will turn on and find other phones / devices.

For anyone interested you can download the BT fix from the link below.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=399779

Just read down the first page and look for Mr Smiley.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
no, they all read from the same location if you use pimbackup

try backup them all again, delete all from messaging - and restore again

why don't you just install it from cab?

fine that this works..
[P3600 ROM Development] Kenzneth:
Thank You for replying me:)

Youtube need several additional module like Dshow .....

I tried a lot to add them into my device.

Yet the reslt is youtube cannot play any video {showing me : cannot play this video}

thank you very much

and 1 more question :p

i fouund that audio manager do not support chinese...{even i have installed chinese spport}

Thank you for your help:)
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
i will take a look at that.. unfortunatly i don't watch youtube ... yet

but i'm currently porting the new iolite version.. so there will be an update anyways .. i think of a m2d version with audiomanager + album (+youtube??)

:D
[P3600 ROM Development] sphinxy:
I cant wait for the update! :)
[P3600 ROM Development] guy73:
Rotating screen..

default setting for button 3 is for rotating the screen but after it rotate it will hang..please look at this problem. rotating the screen is very useful for me to use the large screen keypad. thanks