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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mycell:
Actually I agree with bklynras. I have used msvc V 1.6.19214 during every build since V15 and the announcements were there. After moving to this latest one they have stopped. I went here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=434977 to research to see if there was something that I missed. Nothing so far. Now to be perfectly honest I did recently change my spl from 3.29 to 3.34, what can I say I felt good that day. LOL.... I may change it back to see if that could be the problem.

I am just getting off work now, so I will head home get some sleep and report back later this evening with my findings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
lol, that's because the HTC Start that you are using was built from the ROM picture on Screen shot so therefore the .dll contains that image, i make a new one for every build i use because of that.... Not that it effects functionality :)

You could have the newest WM6.5 build and WM6.5 wait cursor if you hop over to joshkoss thread :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
If I recall correctly, if you use the built in program that detects and download the settings for you, it likes to try and revert back to what it originally set you up with. I had that problem too when I used a ROM with that feature, I reflashed think it was a bad flash, still did it... thought what was different? Ah, auto detect! Hard reset, said no and manually entered my settings, problem went away.

As for some of the other issues you are having, and it seems you are having MANY, it sounds like you might have a bad flash? Or you are overlooking known issues and work arounds for programs you have installed. ie, it is always best to turn off all today plug ins, do a soft reset, then install S2U2 or other programs to help ensure there is nothing running in the background that won't allow a full install. Same thing with MS3, there are a couple work arounds for the sleep mode issue, including turning on 3D acceleration and making sure you install it with NOTHING running on your device.

I don't use either of those programs, but from the time I have spend lurking and now trying to help, it is pretty common with both of those programs to run into issues if you don't install right after a soft reset with all today plug-ins turned off, and it is pretty common to have to tweak some settings in the program, especially MS3, to get it to work just right, as it is made to work with mulitple devices, you need to find what is optimal for your device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 3nigm4:
Autodetect may be the right point, but I don't think the only path to disable it is to hard reset my device, I'll try playing with some settings...

For the other issues, I know it's a problem with MS3, 'cause never had a problem before, without it... the reason I'm posting (sharing) my issues with you all is to search for a temporary workaround until spb fixes its young product... and I see I'm not the only one having issues with it... take a look in early posts and in spb forum :rolleyes:

l0v3r
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
I gathered that you were posting in hopes of a work around and add to the experiences already shared... Hence why I was sharing a couple things I have seen as work arounds for the sleep mode issue; 1. Make sure you install with NOTHING running, especially today plugins. 2. Enable 3D acceleration. This seems to have fixed it for some people, to a varrying degree, but like you said, it is up to SPB to figure it out with their very young product so it is good to go out of box. But, many have reported it running just fine, no power issue, following those 2 steps. I don't use it, and am not about ready to test it since I am happy, but there have been multiple reports of that work around working.

Maybe there is another way to fix the connection settings without a hard reset, I really didn't care as I had just flashed and noticed during program installing that it switched off the setting changes I had made.

EDIT!!!!!!

It seems the power button issue with SP3 problem has been sourced to the 3D drivers(at least that is what the specific thread is saying now)... specifically confirmed with the HTC CA 3D Drivers, so maybe the Omnia will not have the same result, but it causes the OpenGL.dll to stay open, and thus can't power off.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3697531&postcount=53
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] samsat:
Cat Eye if the poster did read through the previous posts all they would have read is dissatisfaction from some about others reporting the power button issue. Confirming the problem is reasonable and ABU has requested a dump from V17 to see what has changed so it can be fixed in the next release.

Why not have the ROM as perfect as it can be?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] abusalza:
i 'd posted on a couple months ago about the power button and almost of all backlight and screen activities was regarding d3dm issue. but i still not sure coz some people did not facing this problem (as mine as well).

that's why i need someone still running v17 to help me make comparison for next release ;)

does anyone v17-aholic want to help me :D?

thanks & regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
What they would have read is dissatisfaction with the constant barrage of posts concerning the double press issue and the " demands " that reza do something about it. The issue has been documented and any further " demands " or posts are a waste of space to people who consider it a very very minor issue.

It is an HTC convenience issue, and no one expects reza to waste his time figuring out what HTC did and how to edit it out.

reza wants a dump of V17, to figure out the SPB Mobile Shell power down issue, which is a much bigger issue that seems to affect only a handful of roms, one of which is his. I would much rather he solve this problem so that we are not all cut out of what appears to be a great new UI.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
Is there a certain version of v17 you would want tested? Lite or full? And what is it about v17 that makes it different? Does it have different 3D drivers? ie Omnia ones? Or none at all? I looked and didn't see which drivers you have cooked it, might have missed it....

But as I have just flashed my first personally cooked ROM, I would rather avoid flashing an older ROM just to test something that doesn't really affect me. I do not have any 3D drivers cooked in my ROM, so I would be able to test before and after type thing. I would really like to avoid doing this at all, but if no-body is willing to step up and do the systematic testing before I have a time, I will do this. Just let me know what drivers V17 has, what drivers X.V2 has, and links to a .cab for those drivers would be preffered, but I would be willing to test V17 as a last resort if all of my other testing to that point yields the same power button issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fincan:
Double press on power button issue!

Hi everyone, my phone does not wake up on the first power button press! This is not acceptable!

Fix this immediately!

Ok ok, I'm kidding, I don't care about the power button at all :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] smokestack76:
He just needs 3 files out of V17. disptool.dll, backlight.dll, and ddi.dll

I dumped the rom but could only find disptools.dll. So i guess it would need to be flashed to pull the files. I will do it if no one else gets to it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bklynras:
yes,i have it checked in the msvc. this only started with the x series roms and the 6.5 builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bklynras:
i tried it with 3.29 with the same issues before i changed to 3.34. i thought 3.34 would help fix the problem but it still persists. i'm just thinking that a file or a link is missing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kidvi:
10 sec backlight issue

m2d not working in landscape mode

gps not working properly with google maps (haven't had the time to look into how to fix this yet, it could just be i have bad settings in there)

volume control when on the phone controls ringer and system, not the actual volume of the current call

those are the issues i can think of off the top of my head. ive been very busy in my business (which is a great thing), but these little annoyances really piss me off now that i'm under pressure and stressed. i want my phone to be a valuable tool, instead of a hinderance.

also, is there a way to update the roms without having to flash a new one, kinda like windows updates for the pc?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thedrizzle:
10 sec backlight: fixed. plenty of workarounds for that. READ.

m2d landscape: seriously?

gps: what radio are you using? if your gps sucks, flash another radio.

volume control: works fine for me when on a call, does just what it should. maybe you have a bad rom flash. you could always go back to your stock, pice of crap oem carrier rom+bloatware.

as far as updating the rom other than flashing: nope. not even close. gotta start from scratch every time. although, there are progs out there that will auto-install all your crap after a rom flash, like UC, Sashimi, etc...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lemassykoi:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/

Google is your friend :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] itsmebryan:
Thanks. I didn't know what to google. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mycell:
bklynras

I had some pc issues today so I wasn't able to revert back to my old SPL. But I see that you have already tried that, so no harm. However, I did notice that my wife's tilt which is running stock Rom is also having the same issue with MSVC not announcing calls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bteljuice:
i have a question guys, and would appreciate it if someone could help me out.

I recently installed Garmin XT and it takes 5min for the GPS TO WORK!!!

I tried GPS TEST and GPS starts up but doesnt run.It stays 5min till it catches the satellite and start to work.

Although i keep my Qucik position and QUICKGPS up to date daily.

As for the GPS TURBO, i have GPS API box ticked. It sometimes gives me an error :" Invalid/Simulated GPS POSITION"

Would appreciate it if anyone can help me with this issue and if someone is suffering the same thing.THX
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flo2216:
Diverted calls

i have a question guys, and would appreciate it if someone could help me out

I want to see on my Tytn II, if a received call is diverted. is it possible?

I have to sim card on two phones, one is forwarded to the one from Tytn II, but when i receive a call, i can not see if is diverted or not.

On mobile phone appear a sign, or a notification, regarding about that.

pls help

thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bteljuice:
Small question, how is GPS related to Radio. doesnt Radio only affect Network? no GPS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] yo3gjc:
if I am not making any mistake the divert information is stored in MSC's operator not in the phone, when you request a divert basically you store this information to operator so operator will divert your call automatically without involving your phone, the only info stored in the phone is the ack from operator that all calls are diverted.

Salutari din Canada
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 3nigm4:
Here are them

l0v3r
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] 3nigm4:
While for SPB MS3, I get it to work every boot, changing its order of startup with MemMaid (or SKTools if you prefer) moving it before every other installed app (in my case, before Rkbdinit (Resco Keyboard), PCCommLoader (Pocket Controller), RPhoneMan (Resco Contacts Manager) and iLock2 (S2U2)).

I disabled also StartUPBioTouch in both StartUp and HTC Boot Laucher.

The device will not power off again if I exit MS3 and than launch it back.

I also disabled auto config in Connection Setup but the proxy setting still resets every boot.

l0v3r
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] makaveli92:
Dialing while typing?

When my Tilt is open, and I'm typing out an email/text, my phone is dialing/calling people in my contact list-

I can't find anything on this? Any similar issues?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Hard-Reset if not solved Reflash and make sure Hard-Reset after flash before customization.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
The Radio is the Firmware that works between the Operating System and the Cellular Hardware. It handles the Sound, Camera, GPS, Phone Calls, etc. The Radio must be compatable with the ROM's Operating System or you may experience problems with your sound and camera.

Different Radios can affect GPS dramatically depending on your location and service provider.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] talonz55:
Question for our chef...

Just wondering if you will be exploring the possibility of bringing back to HTC Album with the Social Network Engine with an upcoming release... As much as I like the last release, I actually went back to v20 due to the ability to upload from the album to Facebook (I upload pictures of my kids to Facebook alot, especially my one year old).:D

I had found a cab of the album, but was not able to get it to work... Just curious...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bteljuice:
Thx for replying to my post. Ur the only one who did :)

Yes you are right (obviously). I did do some more searching.

I just installed the latest radio and works great with everything. Someone mentioned to me that installing QuickPGS somewhere else, becoz data is not being used properly by the GPS?

Is it possible for you to direct me to the right path to fix this lag of GPS of mine? its taking 5min for my GPS to start running. Thx :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fone_fanatic:
I think what he means is he wants the phone to show you that your receiving a diverted call. I've noticed this before, nokia's and SE's do it but not win mo phones.

If my friend diverted his calls to my phone and someone calls his phone which is then diverted to mine, it shows as its a normal call. If it was the diverted to say a nokia, when the nokia phone rings, theres a little divert symbol showing you that the incoming call is diverted from somewhere else.

so to answer your question flo2216, this is a windows mobile limitation and not something to do with the rom.

Read up and check try out a different radio, head to the "ultimate radio thread" and make sure u try a compatible wm6.1 radio and see which one works best for you. If i'm outside i get a GPS lock in under a min!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mskip:
Im always right (obviously) :p

If you are running Ultimate-X V2 (or early versions maybe) then in the Start -> Programs -> Navigation Folder there are various programs to assist GPS. The main ones are Quick Position and QuickGPS, although there are others which can assist in diagnosing GPS problems such as GPS Test and HTC GPS Tool.

Give them a go and see if it helps at all :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flo2216:
Diverted calls, call waiting problem

so to answer your question flo2216, this is a windows mobile limitation and not something to do with the rom.

You understand perfect, that,s the problem.

Also when you call somebady, and he speek, you are not announced about that. Nobody fix that, with same application?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fone_fanatic:
I'm sorry, i'm not understanding you. You mean you are not alerted when the other person answers the phone, or the other person can't hear you right when he answers the phone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flo2216:
No, you can not see or hear on display or headphone, when the person you calling, spek with another one. understand now?

Sorry for my english.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fone_fanatic:
go to start-settings-system-device information and what does it say for Radio Version: ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kidvi:
10 sec backlight: the fix for v1 (s2u2) doesnt work because i have to use exchange and that means i have to use the 4 digit pin prog

m2d landscape: the biggest issue that i have is if i'm in txt, and hit ok out and return to m2d, but try to go back to txting again, i have to close and reopen the slider to get it to go back to landscape. it's an annoyance. also, sometimes it'll flip it 270 degrees instead of 90 degrees

gps: 1.70.19.09

volume control: the only way i can control the call volume is through my bluetooth adapter, but if i'm talking directly on the phone, i can't. i definitely don't want oem OS, but i'm trying to find a happy medium between a homebrew, and stability

i'm going to be flashing to v2, but what i was originally asking was is there anyway to patch the bug updates without having to flash my phone each time, but you already answered that question. could you recommend another stable romthat has few bugs but maybe not as many nice features?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flo2216:
1.70.19.09, the same like in my signature, but why?

the phone feature, works perfect, i have only 2 problems with it:

1. i can not see or hear some beep if the person that i calling speaks or its free to answer(like on regular mobiles, Nokia/SE/Samsung/etc)

2. when i have one number diverted to the one on my pda, when somebady call me, i d'ont know if is from the other phone or not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
V 2 does not seem to have the backlight issue that V1 had. In V 1 I set the backlight timeout to max. (5 min ) and let it timeout a couple of times and then went back to my desired setting of 2 min, and it stuck. That seems to have solved the 10 sec time out on V1.

M2D has never and never will work in landscape ( that is well known) it was ported from a device with no slide out keyboard and has been adapted as far as it will go.

Vol control works through the side OK button. (one press ) and then the wheel. I have never had a problem with it, so it could just be something with your phone.

To refer to this rom as too buggy and ask for recs on another less buggy rom, is both inaccurate and unfair to the hard work reza has put into these roms. The problems that you are having were either addressed in V2 or appear to be only on your phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fone_fanatic:
1. i'm still not completely understanding you. Do you mean when you call someone and they are on the phone, its not telling you that the other person is on the phone? Like nokia will say "waiting" if you call someone and they are on the phone?

2. I get what you mean, that is how windows mobile is and dont know if its possible for the phone to tell you that you are receiving a diverted call.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
Man O man..... I tried for the life of me to understand and decipher what you are saying.... I think you are confused, and confusing ... Let us see... 1. You are saying the "Phone Feature works perfect", however, when dialing a phone number you are not hearing the outgoing dial tone? Is this an accurate assessment?, and all of a sudden the person you are calling comes on line?

2. Sound like you have two phones... One standard and the other one is a PDA phone. And also sound like you prompt your standard phone to transfer calls to your PDA... is this an accurate assessment? and you are saying when you get a call on your PDA it does not display whether you are being called directly on the PDA phone number or if you are receiving a transferred call that originated from the standard phone number.... Is this an accurate assessment?

problem # 1. Disable blue tooth. If BT is on, then the outgoing "Waiting to answer" beep will not be heard. This is common on all phones, even Nokia. Right after you make a phone call, turn on the speaker and see if you can hear the waiting to answer beep. If not, then your BT is definitely on.

Issue # 2. call forwarding service and features are Service Provider's proprietary functions. Contact your phone service provider and request them to change your caller ID plan, that when you receive a forwarded call, to display the phone number of your standard phone instead of the caller phone. The default settings, if you have the same phone service provider for both lines, is to display the caller ID. And again, Nokia phones behave the same.

3rd Issue... Please be more clear next time you have an issue and try to simplify. Or have someone else narrate the issue in English so we can understand. This way you get an answer faster without frustrating the members here.

Good luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nutathis:
When the msvcommand is working properly it will speak the persons name from your contact list that is calling you into your bluetooth headset. It can also speak the persons name through the phones speakers if you have it set to announce through speakers. I have not been able to get this to work on my Tilt since I've had it. It's a very nice feature to have when it's working. Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stylez:
Sorry Deco7 not really a response to you just an additional :)

The way to get around this is to open up another program in portrait something not going to use flip to landscape, as when you open a program ontop so say messaging and close it, you will revert to the other open program to which keeps it in landscape, then open up ontop the next program via start menu and do not press home in the start menu as this will revert to portrait....

eg: Start\Programs\M2DC flip lanscape, Start Programs\Messaging now when you close Messaging M2DC will still be open keeping landcape, so you could now Start\Prgrams CorePlayer all is in lanscape as long as not closed first landcape program or hit Today in Start Menu.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
..........and when the music stops, the person left without a chair is out.........:D

Nice work around, that is what I do to avoid landscape issues.

P.S. stylez....new clothes didn't fit ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
Originally Posted by fone_fanatic

1. i'm still not completely understanding you. Do you mean when you call someone and they are on the phone, its not telling you that the other person is on the phone? Like nokia will say "waiting" if you call someone and they are on the phone?

He is talking about a completely differant issue, has nothing to do with MSVC.

OK I am including a fix for you that would fix the announcements.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nutathis:
Sorry for butting in, it seemed like it was a similar issue that I was having. Thanks for the fix, I will check it out now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] smokestack76:
Sometimes im glad i work all day and cant get on here to see this confusing mess :p