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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JohnSpeer:
Nice software.

I have been using iDialerv2 for about 10 days, and updated to iDialerv3 today. I like how effective the soft is at accessing GrandCentral using my WM5 PPC6700. This is quite an improvement over accessing the GrandCentral mobile website via a browser. I have had no problems using iDialer with the regular Sprint service. iDialer is also well integrated with iContact (whatever version).

Although I am just a user (not a programmer), I would make the following observations:

1.	The intent of some of what is showing in the v3 registry is not clear to me. The settings.ini of v2 was somewhat clearer to me.

2.	While v3 offers more features, the v3 size is some 25% less than that in v2!

3.	The toggle between phone services at the top of v3 is a much better way of handling changes than editing the v2 settings.ini.

4.	A phone number (with and without “-“ as a separator) entered in the <service”n”title> registry key shows at the top of v3, but does not seem to be sent to GrandCentral when using that service. (The v3 call to me from GrandCentral is always made to the mobile phone number set on the GrandCentral mobile website.) In v2, changing a phone number in the settings.ini caused the newly set phone number to ring. Is this as intended in v3, or do I need to make some other registry changes? The v2 handling is quite useful for changing the phone number GrandCentral causes to ring, e.g., using a temporary landline.

5.	If the phone is on and no data service is active, v3 does force a data connection. If the mobile phone is not on, a phone connection is not activated in v3. Perhaps you could offer a choice of starting wifi or a phone service in a future version.

6.	I use the ok button with quickmenu to easily terminate v2. This does not work with v3. This does not seem a big deal as both v2 and v3 terminate if the left top corner is touched.

I like what you are doing with this app, and I am looking forward to trying any future improvements.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
nice i guess i must have did something wrong wit the settings when i set it up when i had .2 this is nice
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
On supbros web site, there is an online configuration tool that may be faster/easier.

here!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] michelo76:
I have done that. My question is where do you enter your username and password?

On the site it only gives the option to choose the services you need.

I keep getting the following messages:

1) unable to connect: 0x24

2)ERROR: unable to login to GrandCentral

My internet is working fine.

Appreciate the Help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
When you choose GrandCentral from the dropdown on the config. website, a "username" and "password" box will appear. If they don't, maybe you have javascript disabled on your browser.

*Edit* Maybe you are trying to access the config tool from PIE? You should use your desktop computer. The site hasn't been optimized for mobile. I just tested and it doesn't even work right with Opera Mobile.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] songao:
It looks so great. Thank you very much!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] webazoid:
would be nicer if there was a white/light version as that's easier to read.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aceplz:
this needs to be made as a skin too, loving the buttons but having to launch the app on my tilt everytime sucks :/ if it was a skin id love it more than i do now lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ryanh11:
same here...when i press the talk button on my elf the defauly WM dialer comes up...the only time the idialer comes up is when i use icontact wich i love equally. it would make my day to see the idialer be my default dialer.....hint hint....anyone know how to do this
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mtrax:
Could someone explain how I can insert my own dialplan format

eg I would like to format like (99) 9999-9999

I tried updating registry for idialer using 1_(NN)_NNNN-NNNN; but it didn't seem to work.. is there another method to load this formats into idialer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Your format would work, if you entered all 11 digits. You have to have one line for each number of digits to match. So for that format:

1_(N_)

1_(NN)

1_(NN)_N

1_(NN)_NN

1_(NN)_NNN

1_(NN)_NNNN-

1_(NN)_NNNN-N

1_(NN)_NNNN-NN

1_(NN)_NNNN-NNN

1_(NN)_NNNN-NNNN

You cannot simply enter the last line because iDialer will not be able to figure out when you want to display the non-numeric characters. For instance, with two digits entered, iDialer would not know if it should display "1 (N ) -" or "1 (N )" or "1 (N"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superpc:
use AEButton to assign ur phone key to idialer

anyway, is there anyway to make the skin fully VGA? scaling the QVGA image is kinda ugly
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] newcss:
Your program at a set *100 # gives out the message on an error - there is no network signal, or wrong number. Whether your program can by pressing buttons instead of a sound signal vibrate phone?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aeratos:
Support 3g?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] simo80:
hello .... I have two problems! I can not set as the default dialer .....! Go if the call does not open .... It works only under icontact !..... One other thing .... I would be Italian without the numbers 00000000 (000) ... how can I?

Thank you very much!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] smotrs:
Question. Couldn't find it mentioned on any of the 21 pages or on the authors actual website. Does this replace the existing dialer currently installed on a phone or is it a seperate dialer all together, meaning we would now have two on the phone, this one and the default?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stephanilson:
Hi @ all !

After install the cab my folder shows me only default.png, idialer.exe and iphone.png !

Where ist the setting.ini to change it for german numerbs ?

Thanks and greeting from Cologne / Germany
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aeratos:
Can anyone tell support 3g video?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Don't bother reposting the same question quite so quickly after the first post!

This dialler doesn't support initiating a video call (as far as I've noticed).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aeratos:
:( : ( :( my phone have video call ..i wanna try it any problems? after install it, beacuse i have 3g
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
This dialler won't stop you being able to use video dialling, but you'll need to use a different app (the default one maybe?) to make a video call!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aeratos:
A ok thx :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
The settings are stored in the registry:

HKCU\Software\Supware.net\iDialer

If you provide me with the german dial plan, I can add it to the configuration web app, at

http://supware.net/iDialer/config
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stephanilson:
Thanks a lot !

The german dialplan is a simple solution: NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Some cities have 3, some 4 and some 5 Numbers for the first telefonnumber
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
If there are no special characters in your dial plan (like space, "-", "(", ")") then there is no need for a custom dial plan for your country, just use generic.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] stephanilson:
Ok, i think also there is no need for a dialplan.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mtrax:
Can you create a dialer plan on your config website for this or do i have to create a .reg file to load into registry?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I'll add it to my website if this would be helpful for others; is it for a particular country? Otherwise you could use my side project to easily create a .cab:

http://supware.net/CabGen

With this xml:

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKCU\Software\Supware.net\iDialer">
<parm name="dialplan" value="1_(N_);1_(NN);1_(NN)_N;1_(NN)_NN;1_(NN)_NNN;1_(NN)_NNNN-;1_(NN)_NNNN-N;1_(NN)_NNNN-NN;1_(NN)_NNNN-NNN;1_(NN)_NNNN-NNNN" datatype="string" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mtrax:
thanks I used your generate CAB file and loaded it on my phone and I checked the registry it appears to be loaded correctly it doesn't appear to format the phone number at all.

but I went for this one instead, you can add this for Australia.

Note I haven't added the International dialing but this one works for STD and mobile numbers

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
The string you gave won't match until you dial all 8 or 10 digits. The plan has to match exactly, that's why in previous posts I've written many more than 3 patterns to match. Yours would look something like this, you might want to tweak it slightly depending on your taste.

(04___)
(04N__)
(04NN_)
(04NNN)
(04NNN)_N
(04NNN)_NN
(04NNN)_NNN
(04NNN)_NNNN
(04NNN)_NNNNN

(0N)
(0N)_N
(0N)_NN
(0N)_NNN
(0N)_NNNN
***You might want to replace previous line with (0N)_NNNN- (with trailing "-")
(0N)_NNNN-N
(0N)_NNNN-NN
(0N)_NNNN-NNN
(0N)_NNNN-NNNN

***You may omit any that are simply "N" with no special characters.
NNNN-N
NNNN-NN
NNNN-NNN
NNNN-NNNN

I've split them up onto multiple lines so you can see it easier. You should concatenate with ";" when storing in your registry (and remove the *** comments I've written).

EDIT: maybe in the next version I will make it easier :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sackcloth:
config cab did not work

the generated configuration on your page is missing the <?xml version="1.0"?> which didn't allow wm to install the cab.

thanks for the awesome program, i've been looking for something like this for some time now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
dialplans

For all the non-US folks: I've already written a better dialplan parser. It works more like you'd expect. I also have duplicated the code in javascript for the configuration web page so you can test it out before installing it on your phone. You can test a new dial plan with a test number, and it will update in real time. Just click "advanced" to modify the dial plan. This won't generate the .cab for you yet but you can play with it:

http://supware.net/iDialer/config/index-new.php

The updated iDialer will be going out to the beta testers soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Thanks, I added that to the .cab file. I didn't know it was required.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Some news

Here's some good news. I've figured out how to embed iDialer as the default dialer when pressing the Green "Talk" button. Just install a tiny app I've written, GreenButton:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3076920

I've made a few other updates to iDialer, I'll publish as soon as possible.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
New version available!

A new version is available v0.4, with the following updates:

Added hardware keyboard button support

Added "Country Code" and "My Number" settings for JaJah and GrandCentral

Added better debugging messages

Now allows "p" and "w" in phone numbers dialed from phone book

Improved dial plan support

Added better "long press" feedback

Added long press "1" = call voicemail

Go get it from my site!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ryanh11:
I have installed iDialer and GreenButton but when i press the talk button the default dialer shows up...what am i doing wrong?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
What type of phone do you have? And do you have a special shell running? It's possible that GreenButton won't run on a customized phone. Also, make sure you installed iDialer on the phone (not on storage card).

GreenButton is somewhat hacky, and probably doesn't work on every single phone with every single configuration.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ryanh11:
My phone type and rom are both in my signature (HTC Touch ELF P3450) ROM:TESS 3.5L. Also, idialer is installed on my phone. but, it makes sense, i have a custom rom and it may not work. thank you for your help
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Ops, my eyes never wander down past the signature line, sorry. If you know how to use ccspy.exe with your phone, I can help you to get GreenButton working. The key is to figure out which window receives the green button clicks. What I've set it for is "HHTaskBar", but I'd guess that's different on the Elf. I could (and should) make that window class name a configurable item too. Let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ryanh11:
im not familiar with ccspy...its no biggy thanks anyway bro great work by the way
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tatnai:
using 0.3 currently with Burt's iContact. How do I dial a number from the phonebook using iDialer? Searched this thread but did not find it.

Thanks a bunch!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You can't actually dial a number from the phonebook with iDialer, per se. Click the contacts icon at the bottom to bring up iContact.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
works great.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ooohsnapp:
I used to have a HTC Touch Pro and the idialer works like a dream, I have recently switched to an iPhone and can't use idialer any longer.

Are there any plans on releasing an iPhone version of idialer?

Thanks for the app it was wonderful on my Touch Pro!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I'm glad you liked iDialer. Sorry to hear you switched over to the dark side :). But iDialer was modeled directly after the iPhone, so you should feel right at home. If you're looking for the GrandCentral functionality, there's an app available in the app store called GrandDialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JohnSpeer:
Thanks for the new revision to this app. Keyboard support works well!

The addition of myNumber to the registry of idialerv4 works for me. I have set up two service types: GrandCentral and Sprint(the mobile phone service provider). If myNumber is set to the phone’s mobile number, I can dial (and receive on the mobile) using Sprint or GrandCentral. If I manually set myNumber to a temporary landline, I can dial via GrandCentral and receive the call on the temporary landline number. Also, if I manually set myNumber to a temporary landline, I can still dial a regular mobile phone call via Sprint. Great!

However, I find that idialer isn't as easy to use with a temporary landline number as I had hoped. Once a temporary landline is used, it seems necessary to manually check/change the number in registry for all GrandCentral calls (whether a person wants to use the permanent mobile number or a temporary landline number). Is there an easier way for a user of idialerv4 to switch between GrandCentral (or other service type) using a temporary line and the permanent mobile number?

If not, would you consider modifying the Service Title switch to rewrite the myNumber registry entry with a “call from” number specific to each service type? If this were done, I think a user could set up a permanent GrandCentral service type that would always use the mobile number to call from. The user would switch to that GrandCentral service type most of the time. A user could also create a separate GrandCentral service type for temporary landline use. Only when there is a need to use a temporary landline number, would the user manually check/change the temporary number in the separate GrandCentral service type. This would eliminate the manual registry check/change needed when using GrandCentral with the mobile number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iggy:
Excellent work Supbro, just a quick update required for the iDialer Online Config, could you allow for more numbers in the phone number dialed (to enable adding p and password for VM) or at least when pressing the 1 have it use the internal VM setup which I have already setup to use the P plus password.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sitelister:
I must say the dialer is great, but is there any chance of adding smart dialing in there? (read: filter contacts by dialing their names). That's pretty much what's missing there for it to be a killer app for me.

Otherwise, is it possible to get the source code for this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dancer_69:
I just install idialer, but I haven't the look that I see on the screenshots. I cannot see the bottom bar with the icons, no matter which skin I choose. What I'm doing wrong? My device is eten glofiish X600 with wwe wm6.1 rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] calcop:
Great job! ...there's no way to disable key tones? thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Those won't show up if you don't also have iContact installed. Without iContact installed, those buttons wouldn't do anything anyway.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Of course, turn down the volume on your phone :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Ok, so you want a different "my phone number" for each service. You're right, iDialer wasn't written with the intention of changing the source number. In fact, I only added that for people whose phones weren't compatible with the automatic phone number detection. It's a fine line between ease-of-use (with not too many options) and flexibility. But I'll look into adding that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dancer_69:
I Have iContact installed too but again these buttons don't show. Need some configuration to appear?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
iContact and iDialer have to both be installed in the same memory (I recommend both on "Device", but can both be on "Storage Card")
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dancer_69:
Now it works! Thank you very much.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Good! I added that question to the iDialer FAQs page.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JohnSpeer:
Thanks. I appreciate that you will consider this. Let me know if you want me to test.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Does that mean the two are now dependant on each other? If so, is there any reason not to include iDialer in iContact (if you can work out some way of not having to distribute the iDialer specific code)?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Rippa_MD:
noobie question:

when I press the green call button on the idialer screen the dialer reverts back to the ugly windows dialer and the phone starts to dial/make the call using the ugly dialer instead of idialer.

I thought idialer got rid of the default dialer completely :confused: is there a fix for this or is it in the works? or I need to RTFM to fix it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
That's what should happen.

As far as I've found so far, there isn't really a way of stopping this happen. I'm trying to work out a work around for my own dialer, and I suspect supbro is doing the same for this.

@supbro: if I work out a way around WM stealing the screen I'll let you know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
No, they're not dependent on each other... there's just no easy way I know of to find the location of iDialer from iContact and vice versa. But I want to keep the programs seperate for flexibility, and for faster load times.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You can use the GAPI to capture the green button, it will be sent to your program as a WM_KEYDOWN / WM_KEYUP messages. It's easy too, just use GXOpenInput.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb446723.aspx

I don't like this solution, though, because it also captures ALL of the hardware buttons; the volume buttons, "Home" button, "back" button, everything, will no longer work, or you will have to handle them all manually.

So that's why I wrote GreenButton. If you install GreenButton, iDialer will work the way you want it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
supbro - do you ever see possibility of your giving user OPTION to show photos

supbro, I know the evolution of the iContact application has been a multi-threaded one. I don't know its earliest origins other that the crediting you give to larna. I also understand, from asking you in another thread a few months back, that Burt's version of iContact was built on your development work. I am not looking for any kind of pin-pointing of which code pieces come from which party -- as it seems to me that collaboration is the whole spirit of XDA.

So, I am asking this question not from a point of view of my having followed every version and every thread from you and Burt & others in the diversion of paths, but: All I know is I like being able to scroll through and pick a contact by image. My brain processes information much more quickly that way than proocessing letter-sequences of names.

I am just guessing - but do not know - that you opted to not enable any kind of picture display on LIST view for speed/performance/load reasons. And I would only guess that, as a result, your versions are faster to load and operate than are Burt's.

So I want to ask: Is it definitive? You will not ever add the option for a user to SELECT having photos in list view? Because for me, from my own usability perspective (vs eye candy), no photos is a "deal breaker". Which is a real shame, because then I can never enjoy the benefit of your tight integration with idialer and green button.

I respect your determination of how you want to develop your own software. what I don't get though is why, even if it is something you personally do not like or want as a feature, you seem unopen to providing a feature set that SOME people want & like -- and we're willing to suffer the performance hit for the usability of the visual sorting it provides.

Similarly, I really need my Contact manager to display NOTES details.

The reason I am asking this here is: If I know for sure that you will not likely add those features as options, then I regretably will opt to use Burt's iContact, and "suffer" the lack of integration.

Thank you very much for what is an awesome suite of development you've done... and i would love to have you open a new thread at some point smply to explain your company's offering... I, as of now, don't understand it. Nor do I understand, yet, how to use Grand Central on my WM device.

sorry for the length of msg !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
My comment is that after the call is placed, WM takes control - the in call screen is all WM.

I've used GAPI, and am using it in current things, but see your point about not wanting it to capture other keys.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
I see your points.

For the loading of iDialer from iContact, the install directory can be found in the registry.

LPCWSTR iContactPath()
{
LPCWSTR	installedFolder;
HKEY hkey;
LONG result = RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, TEXT("Software\\Apps\\supware.net iContact"), 0,
KEY_QUERY_VALUE, &hkey); // Where app install data is stored

if (result == 0)
{
char data[200] = ""; // buffer for path
DWORD buffersize = 200; // size of buffer
RegQueryValueEx(hkey, TEXT("InstallDir"), NULL, NULL, (BYTE*) &data, &buffersize);
RegCloseKey(hkey);

installedFolder = (LPTSTR) data; // convert to LPWCSTR
StringCchCat((LPTSTR)installedFolder, MAX_PATH, L"\\iContact.exe"); // Concatenate iContact exe path
return installedFolder; // return the full path
}
else
{
return L""; // return a default path
}
}
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
god damned Israelies. when are we gonna have normal voip activities?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
Don't damn us, we are all suffering.:( If you want to damn someone then damn the F***ing Bureaucrats in the government and Civil Service.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
why? VOIP isn't forbidden or anything. we just do everything as slow as possible...

we could've had a complete voip system going on with WiMax support in most major cities if it wasn't for our laziness.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
You're right, but I will use any chance that I get to damn the powers that be....:rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thehellraiser:
GREAT APPLICATION ...

GOOD JOB DUDE .. :) Keep it up ..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Well now, there's an easy way! Thanks l3v5y! I'll add that for sure. That will help out those who want iContact installed on memory card and iDialer installed in main memory. I wonder, though, will this make integration with Burt's more difficult?