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[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
just to update you, I've factory reset my and did not restore anything, phone fresh install for ONLY necessary apps. restricted their usage and still getting same idle consumption. around 1%/h night time. I checked apps status somewhere (not sure how to get back to that page) and all apps were asleep and 0 apps awake. even though I've disabled most of the animation and unused services like wifi, super wallpaper, adaptive brightness, notifications, and as always, DND in the night is on with black and white screen and no vibration and sounds enabled.

I was surprised with the following scenario;

Browsing internet or facebook heats up (40C~43C) more than when I am playing mobile legends at max graphics (37~40) with game booster on (restricting interfering apps).

isn't that weird?

Thanks you for the x0.5 animation trick, the phone feels fast now (I know it is just to make the animation faster, but really nice and I think everyone should do it). but it had nothing to do with the battery.

Since I am using global version, I can't find any bloat wares that really are affecting the operation, unless there is something I cannot see. I found only MI Remote, MI Video and Mi Music mainly, compass and services&feedback and some other useless apps are not running at all. so it is just google services running the phone along with MI account (which after keeping an eye on it, seems final with minimal consumption.

there is something odd with power management, the phones hold battery at 100% for nearly 20min's and keeps phone cool with browsing usage, then starts to heat up and consumes 1% in a few min's until it reaches 80's% and then goes better, then it starts to consume power and heat up again. whenever the phone starts heating up, I can feel smoothness drops and like refresh rate drops (at some points only), like while scrolling, I see some spikes sometimes. or when page left or right, same.

are you on stock rom? are you rooted? is there an app that can track a very detailed battery consumption? and is there an app that can show me a very detailed awake apps to the point of listing system apps that are running (and not just android system)?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Turn off power management completely.

Try disabling Google play Services temporarily and clear it's data.

Cloud crap eats resources constantly.

Disable all animations; a fast phone looks cleaner without that tacky stuff and is very slightly faster.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
where can I disable power management? can you guide me?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Not familiar with that device. Probably under battery management.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
This is what I uninstalled so far

pm uninstall --user 0 com.amazon.appmanager

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.msa.global

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.compass

pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.appmanager

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.analytics

pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.traceur

pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.system

pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.apps.wellbeing

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.bugreport

pm uninstall --user 0 com.facebook.services

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.miservice

pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.youtube (don't unistall for youtube vanced)

pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome

pm uninstall --user 0 com.sec.android.app.chromecustomizations

pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gm

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.daemon

pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.bookmarkprovider

pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks

pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.feedback

pm uninstall --user 0 com.miui.touchassistant

pm uninstall --user 0 com.xiaomi.joyose

pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.stk

And this is what I just started testing (only disabled)

pm disable-user com.miui.screenrecorder

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.miplay_client

pm disable-user com.google.android.apps.googleassistant

pm disable-user xiaomi.mi_connect_service

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.micloud.sdk

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.payment

pm disable-user com.netflix.partner.activation

pm disable-user com.miui.backup

pm disable-user com.miui.micloudsync

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.simactivate.service

pm disable-user com.miui.cloudbackup

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.xmsf

pm disable-user com.miui.mishare.connectivity

pm disable-user com.miui.cloudservice

pm disable-user com.tencent.soter.soterserver

pm disable-user com.miui.cloudservice.sysbase

pm disable-user com.google.android.projection.gearhead

pm disable-user com.mipay.wallet.in
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
I believe you have Chinese or EU rom? Not global?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I'm on official EEA global firmware (my device though is a global global device) MIUI 12.5.3.0
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Thanks mate, I'll do same.

Does it affect any of Google services since you uninstalled some of them?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Today's status

Well Assistant obviously doesn't work

Google play I think doesn't notify you the updates so you need to open the app to check

Maps seems to be working as far as I want it to work only when I need it

Google I don't use

Calendar I don't use

Android auto I dont use

YouTube Vanced works

Google one I don't use

Phone and messages works

Contact works

Account and Sync I do manually

For anything else just ask
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Afg Playa:
Do I have to worry about anything I changed over ADB when I update *my rom? I mean do I have to enable the *disabled apps first?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
When you update what? Your Rom? I think you might have everything reinstalled but I never tried so I don't know. You shall need to unistall/disable the apps again
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
With airplane mode, I got this, every night I'll try going with onething off until I find the source
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] blackhawk:
Google Backup Transport...
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Wow that is with airplane mode? Mine had 100% battery with data active
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Seriously what is this Android system running continuosly?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Afg Playa:
You are using kiwi browser instead of chrome right? All my passwords are saved on Google, is there a solution to sync kiwi browser to google?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Honestly I have no idea because I don't store my password
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
I've done exactly what you've done,

I've done exactly what you've done, uninstalled all nominated bloatware, and disabled all you've disabled, and tested it last night. result is still nearly the same, with wifi on, I still have a power consumption of 5-6%, which is still not much of saving. so I believe these bloatwares are not the only things consuming power. must be something else wrong with the software. I still have a considerable amount of battery drain while browsing, which leads me to think power management on this SD888 is still not perfect and still need to be managed much better.

The reason for this claim is that yesterday I did the following tests:

- browsing for nearly 20-30min's on some basic apps and internet pages, not even youtube videos consumed much power and heated up to 43C. consumption was 1%/2~3min's (chanching as sometimes 1% a min and sometimes 1% a 5min, but that was average consumption).

- Waiting the phone to settle back at 33C then played mobile legends for 45min's-1hour at highest graphics and maximum power. result was a logical and justified power consumption (well, it was pretty well managed and expected faster consumption) and ended up with 39C temperature.

so I think its still a software issue that still need to be trimmed and improved and nothing that we can do much with as it will improve only idle consumption but not usage consumption.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
What I did was to improve power consumption in idle Indeed. Not much you can do while in use.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Has anybody anything to share? Everybody is happy with battery drain?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] kyero985:
I'm on 12.5.7 CN stable, debloated and even in Airplane mode with all my apps closed, I lose 5%-6% battery overnight which is just strange. It's been like this for months and none of the recent software updates have made it any worse or better.

I have wifi/bluetooth scanning disabled too, along with Google Play Services toggle set to off. No apps are allowed to 'autostart' and I've restricted most of their background activity. I'll be flashing the EU weekly ROM this weekend to see if it improves things. My previous phone (Huawei P40 Pro) wasn't like this at all, so this is just weird.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
To be honest I feel like the previous version (miui 12.0.1.0) was better from this point of view.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
This is today's drainage
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
That's really good,

Now after testing multiple ways, I see not much of difference in consumption between stock rom global and stock rom global deleting bloatware, it is just a matter of 15% of a full charge at top.

My phone right now is at 50% after 11 hours of full charge. But with 3 hours screen on time with 2.5hours of a game at maximum power.

So I find it pretty good. I'll just stay original now with controlled permissions and just waiting updates. As I still believe browsing consumption is still high and can be highly improved.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
what global rom are you on?

currently on testing (only disabled)

pm disable-user com.milink.service

pm disable-user com.bsp.catchlog

pm disable-user com.miui.notes

pm disable-user com.miui.vsimcore

pm disable-user com.miui.hybrid

pm disable-user com.mipay.wallet.id

pm disable-user com.miui.huanji

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.mipicks

pm disable-user com.miui.hybrid.accessory

pm disable-user com.miui.wmsvc

pm disable-user com.android.browser

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.xmsfkeeper

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.midrop

pm disable-user com.mi.globalbrowser

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.glgm

pm disable-user com.android.calendar

pm disable-user com.miui.userguide

pm disable-user com.xiaomi.account
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
RKAMIXM 12.5.2

I am pretty sure it won't matter much to disable all that.

Also, the device charging speed is simply astonishing.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Well yeah if you're happy with stock why giving you the hassle of making such a mess? Personally speaking I hate when my device consume overnight 15/20% of battery for doing nothing while I'm sleeping. I hate it. I am really curious to check the power consumption and the bugs I will eventually encounter with this new testing. I'll make my report as usual. If anyone is interested in having a minimal MIUI experience
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Why so angry? I am not so happy , but after testing your methods I didn't find it much of a help to my usage, I tried your way for nearly a week and just yesterday restored everything to how originally was.

No matter what, I cannot thank you enough for your support and help and all the ideas and sharing your thoughts and will keep trying until I find a way to reduce usage consumption which is more important and of course will keep sharing what I find.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Sorry I didn't mean to let you think I was angry with you or something, just sharing my point of view on why I am trying all of these stuff. Unfortunately we cannot do much on power consumption while in use (well we could but why buying such a phone like the Mi 11 Ultra if then we use it at 60hz, 4g, and 1080p resolution? Doesn't make sense to me). My concern has always been on any phone I had how to reduce power consumption on idle. that is what "piss me off". Weird is why not many people is interested in this
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Usage is different from one to another and idle battery consumption is really important for me, but after thinking of it for a while and testing for a week, all services disabled and headache does not worth it, because the % of loss a day can be replaced with 3mins on charger. (Just my opinion) after 1 week disabling all services.

Still my concern about usage consumption is far more important and looking to find a solution.

Btw, hopefully miui 13 would solve it? Should arrive in August (less than 2 months away, at least for CN)
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Yeah got it. Actually even on stock battery life was good. I was getting more or less the same and surely getting at the end of my day with plenty of battery. Even with assistant listening all day long, MIUI services, and no modifications of any kind to permission or data usage usage Access. I don't do this because I was not getting the end of the day. I'm doing it because I like minimal experiences. Why having things on my phone consuming battery if I don't use need them? I built myself an habit throughout these years of android. I never relied on or installed more apps than necessary. Majority of things I do, I do them with the browser except for WhatsApp and tapatalk for forums. Why using Google search box if I have the browser? Why using Google assistant if I can type what I need? Why having maps running in background if I need it rarely? Etc etc.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Could you please share with me your stock experience and settings? Also if you could post me some screenshots of your battery consumption overnight it would be great.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
First day of trial. I am more curious to try this for a couple of more days before flashing again back to global rom if worth it
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Let me just sleep with 100% of charge and give you a full day of charge, I'll do it this night for you.

I cannot find much of difference actually, I'll give more details a bit later.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Please if you could give me a screen of overnight when you wake up, and another screen at the end of your day would be appreciated, thanks. And please let me know what apps(system and 3rd parties you have installed) and what rom/firmware you are currently running on what device. Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
I am at work now and device is almost 100% shortly, so i'll give you a summary of a half day usage this night, will charge full in the night, and give you another screen shot in the morning for idle, and tomorrow night as well for a full day usage (continuous after idle).

my third party apps are a lot, this will be a list of most commonly used and heavy apps I got:

Facebook, facebook messenger, WhatsApp, telegram, linkedin, PlayStation app, Australia post, mobile legends, windscribe, outlook, gmail, google translator, all google services of course, employee clock (a tracking app for work that keeps running in the background and using location, but very minimal usage), onedrive, evernote, employment hero (also app for work with no background activity), bank apps x2, amazon, ebay, AliExpress, paypal, Netflix, optus sport, 365 sport, Microsoft authenticator, binance, uber eats, and a few more apps with minimal usage.

that is part of the list but covers I think 70%+ of my apps. and I've returned all battery restrictions back to miui optimized battery.

my device at 120Hz, wqhd+, AI image engine (all on), super wallpaper with 10sec's always on display timer, back screen 30sec's with time and notifications and changeable colors through the day, location and Bluetooth running with smartwatch connected all the time, wifi running, NFC, 2 sim cards with 1 of the networks with poor connection (the work number)

Hope I covered all the settings I have, let me know if you want me to do any other settings.

it is 12:15pm now at 100% charge, at 12:30pm i'll disconnect charger and track the consumption and will report back.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
My battery overnight after the last debloating
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
This is my usage through the day. Was 100% at 12.30pm.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
My battery status after heavy Facebook and mobile legends use ,
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Thank you for sharing this is much appreciated. You have a lot of apps and services, lol I feel like I almost not use my phone at all with my only 3 apps and many system debloated. So far though everything works for my usage. And battery seems ok, I am curious to flash global rom latest update and then move from EEA to global because I have this feeling that 5g is better on global rom since mine is a global device and probably battery life could be better too because of this
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I formatted my data today and flashed back the original global stable 12.5.2.0. so now I'm starting from scratch from the previous testing. Global rom on my device is the best one, 5g speed seems much improved over the EEA rom I was using, we'll see the battery consuption
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
This is the good morning battery consumption. 4% over all in the night. I didn't use my phone for another 2 and a half hours after this screen shot, by the time I upload this, it is 94%.

I tried earlier with airplane mode, it stayed at 100%. Haven't done any further investigations yet..

Wish you all best with this global rom, I suggest to stay on original rom since it is just a week or 2 only late over EEA version.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
that's nice, is this airplane mode or fully active overnight drain?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
This is fully active, without disabling anything and with miui battery optimisation.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Forgot to mention, today we went into Lock down, so my usage for the device will be above daily average usage. As I will play more on the phone rather than working 🙂🙂🙂
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Similar as you now being at 96% after 6hours, I think my debloating was doing something
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
This is after 18hours with above my daily normal usage. 18% left.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
That Android system drainage drives me mad bro. I hate it. Honestly all maxed out you can't do more than 5hours at max of screen on time, you can only act smart using airplane mode or activating battery saver mode to restrict background activities.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
So far drainage (half of my day) with phone discharged before sleeping for overnight testing
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
Seems okay for me, how does it compare with earlier?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Earlier definitely was much better overnight, it was staying at 100% after 6hours and more. Android System now seems much better though,for sure something was wrong. I might start debloating again app by app without playing with permissions and background usage for now to check. Regarding Android System it was definitely something triggering it. Now I disabled the fingerprint Icon to show when device is locked and removed a widget which was calculating my steps. Probably that widget was the culprit,you never know. I'll definitely get rid of apps such as chrome browser, gmail, compass (lol) screenrecorder, msa, analytics, xiaomi service framework. Digital wellbeing (what a useless), android traceur (tracking app for developing purposes), facebook and amazon and netflix **** which I don't get why they come preinstalled,how dare they. Without touching anything regarding permission and usage access. This as a start and check again what is the consumption going to see if anything removed might have some effect on Android System and Google play services.

Look at this for example

If you consider this over 1.45h of Screen on time I have 1.05h if Andrid System with my phone kept awake 30m (wtf???). My wife mate20 pro full of garbage and services runs much less than this
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
This is too much, my device 2mins awake only.

I agree some apps are useless but they do not run in the background at all (except digital wellbeing)

How different is it from before? Roughly what is the percentage difference?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
The thing is phone has been formatted and reflashed yesterday, many options and functions are turned off as per my usage with Google. I didn't apply any strange config. Before was more or less the same thing. What's your Android system?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
RKAMIXM 12.5.2 Global version.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Yeah same as me
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Afg Playa:
Does it mean that the EU Rom from xiaomi.eu is not as good as we all thought in terms of battery life?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] Sathelp:
Any minor battery drain differences are not a reason to not use the EU ROM or to debloat really. Maybe before quick charging, but now this phone charges so quick, it's no longer an issue for most

Many used to debloat to free up memory, more recently phone have lots of memory, so no need to debloat. Then came battery drain, so debloat again to conserve battery when charging took sooo looong. Now with modern battery technology, charging is so quick you can charge for ten mins and have a few hours use in a rush, yet some still debloat. I wonder what the next reason will be.

I'm not knocking it, for those who do, I personally don't see any need for it anymore. I would rather have full functionality these days
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] themissionimpossible:
Sometimes debloating helps to minimize privacy risks, particularly regarding chinese Roms and apps or google's stuff...
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
First you need to find power source/ socket.

Hiking, sailing, desert, jungle, lost and found but police don't charge battery for you and they inform you slowly,... etc. Many reasons without power source for 24 hours.

Even during this pandemic, people still do what they want, especially after they're vaccinated.

Don't say power banks. Why carry it when it can last longer with optimizations?
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
This morning I forgot to take a screenshot,but I am not happy with stock experience. I debloated slightly the rom last night but sti after 4h overnight phone was already at 97% before I managed with background restriction to keep 100% battery over 8hours overnight, so I think debloating doesn't make much, you need to restrict apps activity to achieve it. At the moment I only restricted data usage in background and battery background restriction for many apps and system apps. We'll see how it goes. Unfortunately I need to reflash the rom because debloating last night I removed Sim toolkit which despite the EEA firmware . continue
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
Use this PC program:

XiaomiADBFastbootTools (Java)

https://github.com/Szaki/XiaomiADBFastbootTools

This program can reinstall the apps you uninstalled with adb commands.
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
I used the adb command to install back SIM toolkit from cmd prompt but my brain doesn't like it for me is like I screwed up. when I installed the ROM upon boot it was giving straight 5g now it needs a little time to get 5g and I don't like even if it seems to work just fine
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Is there any chance to use a terminal emulator since I have root on phone to debloat? Instead of using adb
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
You have Magisk root?

Magisk debloater module, and also install busy box module.

SDmaid is also an useful app to manage apps.

Terminal emulator: termux
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
So basically I cannot run the terminal emulator itself as it was the adb shell? I go into the terminal I type su and then using the adb commands
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
You can, but debloater is stronger than adb command uninstall.

Debloater can let the OS system not see the debloated apps completely, so it will not start on it's own.

ADB command uninstall is actually just force stop apps.

If you insist for adb command,

https://www.reddit.com/r/termux/comments/i2nrbm
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] hassanaliyeh:
And we have a 6mb update to 12.5.4 😂😂😂
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] xNAPx:
Oh really? I thought it was uninstalling the apps. So if I really want to unistall them I need debloater and busybox
[Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra] pl1992aw:
Well, the storage will not free up though. It's more of as hide it from the system to read it, so in the Apps list in Setting menu you will not find those debloated apps.