yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_b13:
this is can in universal device?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fyew-jit-tiv:
Need to read the first post dude....

Instalations

IMPORTANT: Do NOT use this on non HTC devices as it won't work as I know!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ancola66:
Its very good ,now acted on VGA ( Non HTC device) . Future can act on another Device QVGA ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PaNa-S:
Very nice! i Will try on my diamond, and disable tf3d :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ryousuke:
let us know how it goes on the diamond...

any way we can export the 2d music player into TF3D???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] windin:
Its works fine on the HTC Universal, the only bugs are the ones already reported
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jabs:
works on ETEN X800

good job :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mautana:
How did you install and what version of manilla did you use?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pi_mento:
@ jabs

indeed, how did you get it to work on your e-ten?

@ pijulius or htc owners

Why doesn't it work on non-htc devices???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jabs:
:mad:

i install last version 0.09 std 2DManila

all 01 - 16 files

last two (2d.Manila.Engine-Beta-0.09 and Manilla2D_HTC_Patch) to inside memory, other to SD memory if installer ask

then put allfiles from TouchFlo2dVGA to \Windows folder (some files you must delete before eg. HH_WEATHER*, HTCHomeSettings.xml for me)

work all widget except People :mad: startimage is down below display, when you touch up you will see

all this i doing after fresh instalation PhamQuang ROM v14

after we have solution with people widget i cook this inside customized PQv14 ROM
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] blazingwolf:
It now works on non HTC devices with the latest release.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
I tested to my x7500 with MichyPrima diamond rom v3 for spl 3.5 and i loved it,

can we please have the original digital clock from diamond?

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nelshh:
It worked well on my WVGA-device (Sony Ericsson X1), but it wasn't stretched out over the whole screen (like some VGA-applications are). WVGA-version anyone? ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ct25pf:
i'm instal on my universal but i finished all memory of device and not work very well.

P.S. sorry for my bad english
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pijulius:
Hi Guys,

First of all thanks everyone for testing and reporting back, I updated the Not Working list on the first post (please note the sliding images only in QVGA mode is the same bug as the image isn't drawn on the whole screen, so if one fixed the other should work too thats why I didn't add a new entry for that) and added an update for the Non HTC devices as it seems the latest maniala 2d works with non htc devices to so happy testing :)

Regarding the process of this port unfortunately even with the Manila Editor I had to redraw almost every image to have it as I would want it, there are still a lot of images that have to be redrawn but things are getting to look pretty good, if everything goes as planed you should have a new version with new vga images in a few days and yes I plan to add back the original clock (digital) as it seems the analog's clock size can't be changed unless modifying the exe but the digital clock can be so adding back the original clock should solve both problems here :)

HELP is always welcome, the most important thing after the new images are done is I think the bugs and from them the contact one as it is useless right now so any of you could have some inside look into that or at least give me some points where or for what to look to speed up things it would be really appreciated.

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
Great thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] blazingwolf:
Not working on my X50v. Darn. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] helpme:
great work!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Blue_Lightning:
Great job

but please help me about the album mode it's still in QVGA
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rmercado:
Please keep this thred....Alive..!

Sam to all others, people tab still not working...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nhocquaytony:
any fixing release yet? more free ram pls :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
I've been playing with this today, had to tweak the xml a bit to get it to fill the screen and get the tab bar to work properly in landscape on my advantage at 96dpi, but good work so far!

Wonder with the contacts if it's possible to reduce it to 6 contacts on the page, as at least on my the bottom row is off the screen to start with when you scroll it.

been testing the photos page and not worked out which it is that changes the image size in yet.

Haven't got album installed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
With the New 2d Manila Build 0.10 your files dont work they only work with the previous one 0.09.

Any news for apdate please ?

thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vlad48:
pijulius, any news and do you need help?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ranj9119:
yeah this is true! cuz the new version seprates th images in two folders one windows and the other manilagfx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
its .10 that I was using, I just copied the right files to the right places.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spvc500:
Cab for VGA files

Hi I've tried several times to copy the contents of the touchfloVGA files to the Windows folder.

I am either missing something or not understanding it properly.

I am copying the files not the folder to the windows folder - tried from sd card and microdrive (7500) and from vista. I can't overwrite any files and i then choose skip and then it is saying its taking 1 day to copy the files over.

The sd card and microdrive copy gives me an error saying i dont have permission to copy - insufficient storage etc when this is not the case.

Dd i just have to copy the folder to the windows directory - have i been trying this wrong?

If not can a cab be made to copy the new files correctly and overwrite the files that are pointless for vga. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pijulius:
Hi Guys,

I just updated the first post with new images but just saw that the latest .10 builds placed the pictures in a separate places so I will have to update the zip and will do so soon just let me install the new build as I still use the old 0.08 on my device.

vlad48 sure I need help :) the most important ones would be fixing the bugs, but helping on the images is also welcome (contacts and album frames have to be still done) cos fixing the bugs I will have to do some debugging to see if I can fix things and my daily job is my night job too as I have my own company so time is not really on my side :( not to mention that I got ill in the last two days, so yes, any help is more than welcome.

Will get back to you guys with the new version to make it compatible with 0.10 soon.

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pijulius:
Ok, Made it compatible with latest Manila2d build 1.00_1819.2926.CAB, see first post for the new download link.

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vlad48:
pijulius, you can PM me with details and i can lend a hand and several spare hours with resizing, testing etc. Here's a small contribution from me it's a VGA skin for HTC audio manager from Opal (Old diamond VGA Audio manager can not work properly for me with Manila2d). Thanks again for the good work and wish you good health.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Noonski:
Great Project Going On.

Wel Test it on an Unnamed VGA Brand device.(forgot the Company Name)

Very interested in the Mem Consumption on the New HTC devices compared to TF3D.

Looks Promising, But You probalby don't want me posting the Screenshots just yet ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
now everything is great, big digital clock perfect,

thanks a lot,

please keep this project alive
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jolas:
It's really a piece of art!!!

The only problem (major I have to say), is the memory consumption.

After playing a while with the tabs, I have free left RAM about 3 to 5MB.

If somehow the memory consumption is going to be managed, I'm gonna make it my default today screen...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vlad48:
LePocketPc, great finding man! Thank you it works!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
can somebody upload here the HTCHomeSettings.xml ready for us all ?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vlad48:
johnripper,

Here you go, hope LePocketPc won't mind

ATTENTION!

This XML file will work only on 0.10 or higher version of Manila 2d
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spvc500:
cannot copy into windows directory

Hi

Still having problems... been trying this for days now. I tried removing the read only property on all files beginning with hh using total commander and no luck. the files still are read only. no problems with over-writing the files in the manillaGFX folder.

Please help.

using x7500 with michyprima wm6.1 r5.1 rom
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vlad48:
spvc500, if I understand you correctly you can not replace the files in Windows and ManilaGFX folder, am I right? If so, please be sure that from you have disabled TouchFlo today plugin reset and try again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pijulius:
Great!! Thanks a lot LePocketPc! this is what I mean by help :D

So guys I updated the first post with a new release and almost all images have been redrawn now so things are starting to look better and better :rolleyes:.

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superpc:
if i want to install it on a diamond, should i install all those cab files in the manila zip downloaded from manila 2d thread?

or i only need to install the manila HTC Patch and Manila 2d.cab

sorry if this has been asked before, i can't seem to find any relevant info...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] superpc:
nvm i got it working, those cabs are not needed, except maybe audio manager, since that's the only tab not working for me

it's eating 18MB of ram, i was expecting it to consume less memory than TF3D

anyway, great port :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ranj9119:
u are doin a great job! tnx mate...

and to others plz keep this thread alive

Cheers. Hirad
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
it really is coming along, superb work guys.

just tried it again, much better than last time. Two tweaks to the xml let it work in landscape as well as portrait in 96dpi on my advantage.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RottenRay:
It was just a lovely interface, but I had to get rid of it - as soon as I installed it, my Advantage couldn't sync (error 80004005 to be precise...tried lots of different things to fix - hard reset back to Michy 5.1 and recreated partnerships and everything worked...until I put Touchflo2D back on and got the same error again...) :(

My Advantage doesn't like it :(

Unless somebody has some advice I'll wait awhile to see if future versions will be more compatible with syncing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] motisu:
This is not a VGA problem, but a Manila 2D general problem. I had exactly the same problem on my Blue Angel which is a 240X320 device. I solved it by using the Xplode version of Manila which is adapted to all devices. I have this version installed on both my Blue Angel and on my Universal which is 640X480.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
theres a fix for that i think, have a look at the original thread, you haveto delete a file from /windows
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nelshh:
I've seen it stated somewhere that the thumbnails in the pictures-tab is hardcoded to QVGA. Can someone confirm that? Maybe it's just some sort of registry change.. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
I have problem with weather. I don't add new city. When I want add city so I don't see no city. I can't write to field...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RottenRay:
And thank you very much...this has solved my problem and it's working and syncing perfectly!

When I read up on the thread there was a file to delete if you were syncing up with a computer that was running Vista. The XP users were all shaking their heads because the file suggested didn't exist in the /windows directory, but the version motisu suggested doesn't seem to have that problem...

Could you let us know what those two tweaks are? I would love to just have this stay in landscape...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
yep

resize screen and resset tab bar in landscape.

in the xml change <Property name="IDTABWG_WIDGET_RECT"	id="0" value="0,0,480,560, 0,0,640,460" />

<Property name="IDTABWG_TITLE_RECT"	id="1" value="16,0,448,49, 16,0,618,49" />

<Property name="IDTABWG_TAB_RECT"	id="2" value="0,484,480,102, 0,334,640,102" />

for full screen in 96dpi in portait and landscape

I do find that some tabs don't work in landscape, you can work through the rest of the widgets and change sizes on some only, and it rotatesback to portrait when it tries to load a widget that doesn't work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robjhellis:
Clarifying the Install Process

Hi Guys,

I have an Advantage x7510. I have read the threads and if I may beg your indulgence I would like to confirm my understanding of how to install on my device. The steps seem to be:

1. Hard rest my device to return it to factory state and stock rom

2. Install all of the cabs in the latest version of Manila 2D (currently edition 18) in the order that they appear on page 1 of that post - 10 cabs numbered 1 to 10.

3. When all appears to be working uncheck TouchFlo in Today/Settings/items.

4. Copy VGA ver 0.1.3 to windows directory

5. Reselect TouchFlow in Today settings.

Is there anything that I have missed? Is there any know issues with the fact that for the x7510 owners there is no hard SPL or CID unlocker availabe at present?

Further, is it a matter of experimentation to add further apps/cabs to see what works and what doesn't?

Finally, have you found that RealVGA will work after Manila has been installed?

Thanks for all your great work on possibly the first major improvement for the look of our x7510s - as well as thanks on behalf of other VGA device owners.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pijulius:
Hi robjhellis,

I have the same device but I do not install all those cabs as they are all for QVGA devices and we already have some of those applications on our device.

What I do is just simply install

Manila2D_1.00_1819.2926.CAB

and

Task_Manager_2.1_34837.5.cab

(I already have a taskmanager fix but unfortunately cabwiz has a limit for binary data so I will have to find a new way to create cabs but it still works just the icon on the right top is a bit smaller)

so the above cabs are just enough, you can use everything except Audio manager but again that is still in qvga mode and has to be ported too (vlad48 sent me a port of it but I will have to have a look on it as I try to have every image redrawn) but everything else works just fine, we already have commanager so that works too, opera too so I would recommend to only install these two cabs for now till the others get ported and you should be all ok.

Unfortunately I don't really know much about these points as I don't use RealVGA at all, but future applications like IM+, PocketMusic or any other application should work just fine as it does for me but for the rest you have to try it to be sure.

NP, happy it is useful.

Cheers,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
realvga works fine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robjhellis:
Thanks for the quick replys guys - I shall try this out tonight when I get home form work. One item to clarify - which CommManager are you using? If its other than the stock ROM one can you point me to the thread for me to pick it up?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
VcommManager for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robjhellis:
Success with some questions

It appears that my install has worked; I used MaNILA 2d Edition 17 as I see 18 has been withdrawn. I have also re-installed RealVGA. I have applied the edits as above and get the tabs correctly in landscape in 96 dpi. However, I do prefer to run my device in 128 dpi. With the above edits the lower half of the tabs are hidden. Are there any changes we can make to correct that so that they show properly in 128 dpi?

I also notice that even in 96 dpi when in landscape the third line below the clock is missing; it is there of course in portrait, and people selected do not show up in landscape Are these known issues of Manila itself of matters that can improve over time?

Also, whilst understanding that stuff is limited for VGA do we know of any other color schemes available at present that will work on the x7510 other than the black, and are there any other clock faces available?

Thanks again for the great work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
The third line in that code controls where the tabs sit.

so 484 is the Y position (how far down the screen) the tab sits in portrait.

The 334 value does the same in Landscape

try adjusting those and restart M2D (settings>today>items etc).

Gave up on 128dpi some time ago, so I dont know what you will need to change them to.

To get the lines back in landscape under the clock then you'll have to change the XML relevant to that bit, I've not bothered if with it, so don't know of the top of my head what it is, but have a read through the thread on customizing the HtcHome xml, it's not too bad to work out what you need to change.

Colours you'll have to manually do, either recolour the originals, or upscale the images from what it is you like the look of.

I've a fantastic prog that batch upscales images using all manner of clever ways without making them appear jagged, but doesn't work on PNG files, so I haven't tried doing any of the existing themes, and don't have time to manually do them..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silver_fox:
i wanna ask if it works well on my htc touch or not ??

and is this the latest ver, yet ? (6-10-2008)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silver_fox:
i tried to install update 16 .. but i don't have memory !!

i only have 12 MB free memory in the main memory and i just have 2 or 3 small prog. tht i need and i don't want 2 remove them ... is this normal !!

i think i have a problem ??

also y we cant install these files on the storage card and only the system files in the main memory ... is this possible ?!!

i have HTC-Touch P3450

plzzzzzz i need this update even without all the features !

thnx in advance
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iceblade997:
why not install Touchflo 2d then? your device is a QVGA device, is it not?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silver_fox:
thnx but........

yeah i think ,, but can u explain plz wht do u mean !!

and iam still talking abt the storage ... without any prog. on the device (i.e, after hard setting) only i have 26.5 MB free memory !!

so how could i install this one 33 MB !! and i need some other prog's.

plz try 2 find me a solution for this prob. ... iam lost !

plzzzzzz
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hoankhang000:
pleasehelp

how can i fix this?i want the biger photo frame
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
3d manila on athena?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=430718

maybe we should try to find a way to run this on our vga devises
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robjhellis:
A new thread on landscape for Manila 2D

Hi Guys, maybe worth watching this new thread to see if it helps us and with particular interest for our landscape orientated Athena's -

"Manila 2D almost in Landscape" http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=435655

In addition - re my issue with the missing lines under the clock in landscape - I'm thinking that I actually need to make the digits smaller so that there is more screen to work with - would you agree? If so is that tweaked in the HTCHomeSettings.xml file or is that a re-draw of the .png clock files themeslves?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] robjhellis:
Beacuse of the size of the clock and lack of space in landscape I've been trying to recode the HTCHomeSettings.xml so that Alarm, Call History and Calendar all continue to show in Portrait, but only Calendar shows in Landscape. I have atempted to do that by editing the lines for Alarm and Call Hostory by inserting zeros thus: <Property name="IDHMWG_MISSEDCALLBTN_RECT" id="30" value="24,304,456,364, 0,0,0,0" /> but alas it is not working. Can someone tell me hown to do this?

For info I found the tab setting to show correctly in 128 dpi was 323 (changed from 334 for 96 dpi).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] johnripper:
landscape

can we please have landscape in vga too?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=436753
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] adrpat:
very good !

good job

please try to fix the bugs...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Whosdaman:
lol.....I read this thread and thought, what a joke....and I was wrong

lol, for whoever thinks this is a good idea....How about trying TouchFlo 3D??? It's for VGA and was made for VGA and guess what....IT's BETTER!!! And is fully compatible....how about trying that instead of TF2D....lol
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fards:
Fully compatible? with what? I tried it on my advantage and it didnt start.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lennie:
I'm not sure what is causing this but when ever I click on email the app closes and sends me right back to the today screen, I have to "click to launch" the app again. any work around for this problem?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xsoulreaver:
any ideas for touchflo 3d for VGA devices..??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lennie:
ok so i found out it's not the mail application that is giving causing M2D to crash, it's caused by the size of the email. i believe if the email is between 88KB and 99KB, M2D will crash. it's a bit frustrating because my emails are routinely over 100KB.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ranj9119:
read the original thread... it says how u can use it for vga
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lennie:
I also noticed that the sms tab only shows 99 sms even though i have over 1200 sms messages. this also sheds a little light on the reason the email tab crashes manilla 2D when it is trying to open an email with a size 99kb and above
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Whosdaman:
you have to use the correct cab, not the scrwed u one that is on this site.....

try finding the real TF3D cab VGA, its fully compatible with all vga devices as is
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Klael:
Hey clever guy!

Please donate me some more RAM for my device than I will use TouchFLO 3D instead of TouchFLO 2D VGA...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] MiToNiOeS:
i'm interesed in this question... someone can help us??? in first post put this: "IMPORTANT: please note this is only the main TouchFlo2d program, I didn't look in the other programs (like youtube) and addons that are available for the TouchFlo2d QVGA version, and won't do till first this part of the project is done."

in theory we should not install anything...