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[Touch HD General] kemathon:
I just started reading the thread in this forum. Many of the issues that arose seem very interesting. First of all, I got to say HTC is about to drop the bomb. I must admit, this is one of the most, perhaps the most powerful and advance phone out there. And for people who wine about the lack of the slide keyboard, do you not realize how much the virtual keyboard had improved? Have you tried the virtual keypad on the iphone? or perhaps the compact virtual keypad on the touch diamond? They are awsome, not to mention the fact that touch HD had a 3.8" touch screen. Imagine what that virtual keyboard feel like in such a huge screen. Also, I wow like to point out a bit about WM6.1 and the people who hate it. I think WM6.1 is fine, they offer alot more functionality than the iphone OS except for the fact that it is fat and lazy. But worry not, android is coming this october. Once the developers (alots from XDA I believe) get their hand on it, they'll be able to work something out. So, imagine android on touch HD, or maybe WM7. Can't wait..............Drooooooooooooolllllll.....:):p
[Touch HD General] sdlopez83:
Difference is that the Iphone keyboard is more responsive due to the capacitive screen vs Touch sensitive screen. And also as stated before HTC has said that it will feature a Touch HD Android for T-Mobile in the US.
[Touch HD General] Raziel1:
Didn't state it, it's just a rumor so far.
[Touch HD General] ofiaich:
Hi kemathon!

I note you mention about how far the virtual keyboard has come....

I want know about language options. I need Japanese and on the iPod Touch that I had, it was excellent.

Will the HTC Touch HD have the same capability?

I have used CE-Star and Asukals software.. but hope Japanese can be easily called up !

I did post here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=436451

but 77 reads and no replies.

Ofiaich :)
[Touch HD General] Ruudfood:
Well it looks like we have a firm release date: 6th November

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-release-date-is-november-6th-in-europe-1519280/

For me, it's case of waiting to see if either Vodafone or O2 will do this.
[Touch HD General] onesolo:
Did you guys saw how much Expansys is gaining on each device??!?!

For most of their "euro stores", the price for the HD is about ~€640-645

If the MRSP is about €649 I think they can give us better prices!!! I'm very unhappy... I thought that expansys would be a lot more comprehensive with their costumers....
[Touch HD General] dazza9075:
woudnt count on O2 UK doing it, you go in to a O2 store and ask for a bluetooth headset and they try sell you an Iphone so i doubt they will sell a phone thats got the Iphone on its knees.

But it seems Germany is going to do it in week 47 so who knows.
[Touch HD General] calli:
Why not then use a portable fold up keyboard as we used to used use with the original pocket pc. Carry it with you only when you need it!

Calli
[Touch HD General] P996:
Expansys is never among the cheapest but usually they have a lot of stuff first and if you want to be the first, you need to pay. ;)

From my experience, german online stores have the most competitive prices in Europe when it comes to HTC devices. Don't forget that the prices already include 19% VAT.

Examples(cheapest advertised prices incl. 19% VAT):

HTC Touch Diamond 448 EUR

HTC Touch Pro 597,90 EUR (Expansys is actually a couple of Euros cheaper)

HTC Touch HD 600 EUR

There may be some other European countries where HTC products are slightly cheaper but usually not from large online stores with full warranty.

Some of the larger german shops deliver everywhere in the EC and they accept credit cards too. This may be an alternative to Expansys.

I bought the Samsung i8510 from Expansys at around 710 EUR(it costs now 719 EUR).

My favorite german online store asks 569 EUR for it, the cheapest shop asks 540 EUR.

Another example: the new Nokia N96. The cheapest german online store asks around 570 EUR for the N96, Expansys asks 650 plus a 50 EUR cashback offer, meaning around 600 EUR.

Expansys could attract A LOT more customers from Europe if they would not only sell products earlier but also cheaper. Unfortunately they're usually more expensive than others. :(
[Touch HD General] pzucchel:
delivery dates

www.digitech.ch has just updated delivery times. the english and french versions look to be available early november - the german and the italian version will be available late november. they also updated the delivery time for my order...

Notice that www.digitec.ch accepted ORDERS, not preorders. So, i believe that these delivery dates should be quite reliable...
[Touch HD General] Huck33:
i order mine on a french website (rueducommerce) and i received an email saying that the Blackstone will be available nov. 6th...

but no information about the year... ;)
[Touch HD General] donbronzi:
Check this out, could good news for Orange UK customers!!!

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4362.html

WIll keep an eye out for any further developments.

Bless DB
[Touch HD General] frustin:
please let this be so. i've been waiting for the touch pro for ages! now i think i prefer the touch HD. but neither are out for orange yet.
[Touch HD General] donbronzi:
Just had a call from Orange Uk who will be giving me an upgrade with the touch HD, they have said that by the looks of it they can get it to me by next monday (1 week). If this is the case i imagine that people who plan to buy htc braded models should be getting them before?

The time for the HD is nearing!!
[Touch HD General] leftkats:
Any names of online shops you could provide us with>?
[Touch HD General] frustin:
true or false?

dunno if this site just copied and pasted this from another advert but heres something:

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/27/htc-touch-hd-orange-exclusive-leaked-doc
[Touch HD General] chrissyboy6969:
It is true, Orange have an exclusive until the end of the year, just received their press release by email and have posted it on the blog, but here it is anyway for those interested:-

London, 27th October 2008: Orange today announced that the HTC Touch HD handset will be available in the UK from early November, exclusively on the Orange network. The Touch HD is a premium multimedia enhanced mobile handset, designed with a focus on entertainment that is set transform how people experience multimedia on the move.

Its extensive 3.8 inch, high resolution, widescreen WVGA touchscreen offers users stunning clarity and vibrant colours, providing an unrivalled experience when watching movies or using Orange’s mobile TV service, browsing the internet on Orange’s high speed data network (3G+) or even scanning through photos taken with its 5 megapixel auto focus camera. The Touch HD also renders websites quickly and in full-page width, providing a browsing experience closer to that using fixed line broadband and allowing users to navigate more easily.

What’s more, the stylish new device features HTC’s beautiful TouchFLO 3D user interface to provide quick and intuitive access to the people, messages and content that are most important, and a standard 3.5mm headphone jack has been incorporated, allowing customers to use high-performance headphones with the device for the best possible sound quality.

Speaking on the announcement, Francois Mahieu, Director of Devices, Orange UK said: “"We are very pleased to launch this state of the art mobile internet device exclusively on the Orange network. It is a great phone but also a wonderful multimedia handset which paves the way to even more innovations from Orange next year in the mobile internet space. The HTC Touch HD on Orange will be the must have device this Christmas for the person that wants it all".

The HTC Touch HD is exclusive on the Orange UK network until 2009 from £79.99 on an 18 month, £40 per month contact *Package includes inclusive option of anytime mobile internet browsing (subject to 250Mb per month).

The phone is available from Orange via Orange stores, Orange Telesales (0800 079 2000) and Orange’s online shop http://www.orange.co.uk

The handset will also be available from Orange in France and Romania in the forthcoming months.
[Touch HD General] frustin:
i just phoned orange to get an upgrade. the bloke i spoke to said it was down as "coming soon". no mention of when. no "i'll call you back when its in" option either.

rubbish!
[Touch HD General] donbronzi:
I have already said that orange called me this morning and said it should be available by Monday the 3rd of November (1 week).

(orange mucked up my contract, they have assigned a fixer for me, i have asked for a HTC HD and they have called me weekly keeping me upto date on when/if the HD will be coming, this is why they called this morning.)
[Touch HD General] Zuber:
I assume this means exclusive with contract from an operator. Not exclusive as in you can't get it offline either ?

Otherwise, it would mean Expansys UK etc would not be able to offer it. At least not an official UK one (which is what I would expect to receive).

Zuber
[Touch HD General] chrissyboy6969:
Zuber, Yes all this means is that Orange will have an exclusive as far as other networks are concerned, it does not affect buying a sim free phone from an online retailer.
[Touch HD General] bond007:
Just spoke to orange sales they have it listed as nov 3rd release date
[Touch HD General] TweakMan:
Hd Not Coming To Usa!

Hey guys, Tweak here with some sad, sad news. I dont know if you all have heard, but as of know the HD is not , and will not be coming to a US carrier.

HTC released a bit of info on there Twitter Channel, stating that by the time the phone was converted and released in the US that it would be old news.

This is a shame. This phone is amazing from the tests we actually seen. Eventhough it doens't have the spectacular Multi-Touch, the sceen is almost if not as responsive to touch as the iPhone. The screen is unlike any other. Engadget, and Cnet, have stated , and also personal opinion, that this is the True iPhone Killer!!!

HTC did however hear the cries of us North American users, and stated that they would be contacting the North American Managment to discuss release here, however it is very unlikley.

So thanks for the time guys, this was released in the first part of october, and has yet to change. Sorry to leave you on such a sad not. But I've got to go cry into my pillow, weeping sadly over my diamond being the best I have to look forward to for months to come!! :(
[Touch HD General] Raziel1:
I am sad that you just found out, but on the other hand this is pretty old news.
[Touch HD General] galaxys:
hi tweakman, old news...but we will be ordering from overseas! ;)
[Touch HD General] frustin:
whats to convert? I ask this based on: if the guys in the US can buy overseas and use them what is there that needs to be converted after that?
[Touch HD General] Insaneboy:
Something, involving 3G coverage. Would work on GSM though :P
[Touch HD General] frustin:
ahhh i see. yes that would be a limiting factor.
[Touch HD General] cadenza:
Hi to all^^ does anybody know when the hd will come to germany? Any further information? Because it was meant to come on the 6th of November to o2 (they'll sell it exclusively here in germany), but I don't know if thats still "true", because everyone I asked in really a lot of o2-shops here (I was in about different 6 shops), I heard the same answer: "huh? Whats a htc touch hd? I never heard of this..". Yes, thats REALLY disappointing for me!!! So, any idea? I need really to know if it'll come until mid of november or later, this is important for me... Argh, I want this device.... What do you think? Greez, cad^^
[Touch HD General] EvilWhiteDragon:
My girlfriend could rather easily use my old TyTn II.

Oh, and a couple of months ago she got a HTC Touch Diamond, so ... I guess your agruement is invalid, in the sense that if you have half a braincell, you'll figure out how the "basic" functions work. "Basic" in the sense as, no she won't change or tweak things in the configuration screen, besides the ringtone and such.

Hell, she even got MSN email working without my help.
[Touch HD General] buggybug0:
wow, there's no need to word your argument in such a way.
[Touch HD General] xboxhaxorz:
Thats terrible, i guess now i will just buy the raphael since its going to be on at&t. I rather not spend a premium on it from europe.
[Touch HD General] sdlopez83:
Yes there is, the Iphone is designed for the tarded masses who don't give a flying F*ck about the technical aspects of a phone. Its trendy and has a wow factor. (that's a given) we all know this.

So get an Iphone.
[Touch HD General] steiale:
Ordered mine at expansys.de. They will be the first to get some in Germany. Release date will be mid of november or buy at amazon.de. I have no valid info when o2 will get it.. Grüße aus Deutschland
[Touch HD General] myxcon:
I just ordered mine and got an answer that they will be available starting with 15th of Nov. (Romania)
[Touch HD General] sl8125:
F**K Iphone 3g. Your right. This is for tards who don't even know how to turn on a PPC. I am tire of it. I need my HTC fix. However, I want that HD and must be patient for the US version. No way i want to fork over a G for a non-3g phone. 3g is must for this product in the states. Once they have one made, i will be all over it. Must be patient.
[Touch HD General] Graeme:
This pretty much mirrors my experience. I've always (unreasonably) disliked Apple, all that form and marketing so far ahead of function. And the 'locked in' aspect always grated.

I picked one up for the first time last sat and was knocked out by the interface. Streets ahead of the others I was looking at, Omnia, Diamond, Pro and G1 (which was rather oddly hidden in a drawer in the T Mobile shop but pulled out by one of the few enthusiastic and knowledgable phone salesmen I have ever seen).

I have now settled on the HD but that means I either pay through the nose and get one now or by soemthing to get me by until the New Year. I'm not sure how much it is worth to be the first bloke on the block with the new toy.
[Touch HD General] donbronzi:
we all know that orange are geetting the HD and heres the real proof, oranges coming soon section!!!

http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/htc_touch_hd/detail/pay_monthly
[Touch HD General] surur:
What exactly knocked you out? I find the icon/App-driven interface of the iPhone primitive. TouchFlo3D's task-based interface is a lot cooler.

Surur
[Touch HD General] kmann:
What makes you think being patient will help when HTC says the phone will not be available in the US?
[Touch HD General] buggybug0:
well there was rumour of touch HD having android coming to tmobile as Tmobile G2, but ... rumour only.
[Touch HD General] nick007:
New Infos for waiting guys at germany:

Touch HD in the middle :( of november at the german o2-shops for (only) 570,- Euros :) without an contract incl. an 8GB mircroSD-Card :D

Look: http://www.areamobile.de/news/10117,2.htm (german)

Thats cheaper than amazon.de with 619,- Euro

Nice, Nice, nice. I just only can sing "Wake Me Up When November Ends" ;)
[Touch HD General] Graeme:
I could just pick it up and use it. No need to figure it out, it all made sense. There were no 'ahh, I see' moments where the penny drops and you see why a certain icon looks like it does, or why a certain thing was done a certain way, it was obvious from the start.

Personally I'm not that bothered about 'cooler', not even sure what it means. I wont be buying an iPhone because it doesn't do all the things I want and need but its interface is impressive.

Simple, primitive, they often describe the same thing from different perspectives. I found the icon/app driven interface simple. I think the simplicity is useful and I can see why so many people like would them. I can also see why many people, including myself, wouldn't.

I don't have to find a simpler interface inferior to justify my preference of a less obvious but more versatile one, I can see how both have value and a place in the market.
[Touch HD General] tboy2000:
I agree that a phone should be simple to use and navigate and have few clicks to get a job done like sending a message. Touchflo 3d is brilliant but I don't know how practical it is.

For me one of the best phones I ever had was a Palm Treo because I could do EVERYTHING just by using the DPAD. Never had to get my stylus out at all. Beauty of Palm was that every single check box, radio button, menu list, close button etc was navigated to and pressed with the DPAD. Was truely wonderful. This can not be said for PPC phones.

I always feel that Dpads are always better than Jog wheels, joysticks, and scroll balls such as in Blackberrys. No need for repeated sweeping of the thumb with a back and forth action. Dpads require less movement of the thumb joint. A simple slight rock from side to side is sufficent.

I can't wait for my HD but I know it will not be as simple to navigate solely on a touch basis and stylus would be required at times.
[Touch HD General] jentech:
Thank god for pre-ordering. I pre-ordered my HD from Expansys USA a few weeks back, but with my precious CAN$ tanking big time on the world market, I was worried about the cost of the phone. Talked to them today and even though the current price is now $1100:eek: CAN, they are honouring my order at $885! What a huge relief. Thought I'd have to cancel. Way to go Expansys, and can't wait for Nov. 16th. :cool:
[Touch HD General] Insaneboy:
A local shop is claiming that they have it in stock at 865$.
[Touch HD General] ilordvader:
What is ur local City ?
[Touch HD General] badaas:
UK O2, pre-order November 7th:

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/o2-htc-touch-hd.html

wooooop! free on £35pm, at last, nearly got the Samsung I8510, still might do now after all the fuss...
[Touch HD General] Insaneboy:
Sofia, Bulgaria.

You're probably not going to understand anything, but

http://www.mobilebulgaria.com/mobiles/view.php?id=1682

Right there where it says

1 оферта

цена 1350.00 лв.

It means that there's 1 offer for it @ 1350 leva, which is 894$ by today's dollar rate. :p Was cheaper yesterday when the $ was 1.55 leva :D
[Touch HD General] ilordvader:
Thxs for all the info

all i wanted to know was what city are you in

but thxs anyway :)
[Touch HD General] Armarn:
preordered today on expansys UK, an price was 446.80 GBP ~721$
[Touch HD General] buggybug0:
hopefully, the rep u spoke with knows what he's talking about, becaus it is your bank or credit card issuer that does the conversion (based on the rate at the time of charge). expansys would still charge your card whatever US amount you bought for. if what the rep told youu is true, then that means two weeks later, they would only charge you around $700 USD, so when the creidt card issuer exchanges it for your card it would comeout to be $880 like u said. i can't imagine any retailer take $100 hit when it was out of their control to begin with.
[Touch HD General] JTHM:
Have you considered what import duty will you need to pay?

Obviously this is a different situation where you are ordering something that you simply cannot get where you are but, speaking from experience coming the other way, when the exchange rates were MUCH better than they are now I ordered some photographic equipment from t'other side of t'pond thinking I'd be saving around 200GBP. Unfortunately the exporter sent it all by courier and quoted the full value of everything :(, the courier diverted it all via customs who got their big red book out and stung me big style. In the end I could have bought it all in the UK for 100-150GBP less than I finally paid to get it through my door.

I consider that a lesson well and truely learnt!!! :mad:

Mind you, having said that, at about the same time I saved an absolute packet on a 270GBP (UK price) pair of Oakleys - over 50% off! :cool:
[Touch HD General] terra65:
For NL: http://www.takeitnow.nl/HTC_99HHC013-00.xhtml

price € 585 incl vat & shipping (ordered today, delivery is due on Mon Nov 3rd)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] joekitch:
My battery must have swelled up at some point so I decided to change it. It was pushing the back off my phone and wireless charging would not work. Otherwise I would have left it alone but now my front camera doesn't work. I triple checked all the connections and did a factory reset. No go. The camera works on other apps like Snapchat but it's b&w only. It looks like it's night vision and it if you cover the sensor to the right of the ear speaker it dims like you turned off a flashlight.

Any suggestions ?

I'm ordering parts but not sure if that will fix it. (It's the camera and sensor's)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] stoobs:
I had my 4xl battery fixed from Ubreakiit and they had to replace a bunch of the device itself.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] blackhawk:
A swelled Li is a battery failure. Replace immediately a the first sign of swelling.

Once a Li gets below 80% of its original capacity it is more likely to fail, replace it.

Other signs of a battery failure are a sudden change in capacity, any cover or display bulging, and/or erratic fast charging.

A failed Li can take out the display (it normally sits right on it) even the whole phone especially if you suffer a thermal runaway. The tolerances are tight so there's very little room for expansion without pressing on critical components.

Make sure you get the correct parts for that model variant. Carrier phones can use different components that are incompatible with other variants of that same model.
[Asus ZenFone 3 Questions & Answers] ThePadawan:
Anyone know how we can start build a updated rom for our zenfone 3?

I trying with lineage 17, but have errors at breakfast.
[Asus ZenFone 3 Questions & Answers] xxseva44:
I'm not a zenfone user although i might be able to help, what's there error your running into?
[Asus ZenFone 3 Questions & Answers] ThePadawan:
it hapens when i call breakfast

breakfast zenfone3

[W][2021-06-29T19:53:40-0300][3488] void cmdline::logParams(nsjconf_t *)():250 Process will be UID/EUID=0 in the global user namespace, and will have user root-level access to files

[W][2021-06-29T19:53:40-0300][3488] void cmdline::logParams(nsjconf_t *)():260 Process will be GID/EGID=0 in the global user namespace, and will have group root-level access to files

In file included from build/make/core/config.mk:291:

In file included from build/make/core/envsetup.mk:277:

In file included from build/make/core/board_config.mk:142:

device/asus/zenfone3/BoardConfig.mk:212: error: cannot assign to readonly variable: PRODUCT_BOOT_JARS

19:53:41 dumpvars failed with: exit status 1

Device zenfone3 not found. Attempting to retrieve device repository from LineageOS Github (http://github.com/LineageOS).

Failed to search GitHub

[W][2021-06-29T19:53:52-0300][3550] void cmdline::logParams(nsjconf_t *)():250 Process will be UID/EUID=0 in the global user namespace, and will have user root-level access to files

[W][2021-06-29T19:53:52-0300][3550] void cmdline::logParams(nsjconf_t *)():260 Process will be GID/EGID=0 in the global user namespace, and will have group root-level access to files

In file included from build/make/core/config.mk:291:

In file included from build/make/core/envsetup.mk:277:

In file included from build/make/core/board_config.mk:142:

device/asus/zenfone3/BoardConfig.mk:212: error: cannot assign to readonly variable: PRODUCT_BOOT_JARS

19:53:53 dumpvars failed with: exit status 1

[W][2021-06-29T19:53:53-0300][3614] void cmdline::logParams(nsjconf_t *)():250 Process will be UID/EUID=0 in the global user namespace, and will have user root-level access to files

[W][2021-06-29T19:53:53-0300][3614] void cmdline::logParams(nsjconf_t *)():260 Process will be GID/EGID=0 in the global user namespace, and will have group root-level access to files

In file included from build/make/core/config.mk:291:

In file included from build/make/core/envsetup.mk:277:

In file included from build/make/core/board_config.mk:142:

device/asus/zenfone3/BoardConfig.mk:212: error: cannot assign to readonly variable: PRODUCT_BOOT_JARS

19:53:54 dumpvars failed with: exit status 1

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