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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] torchpants:
I've set up the settings.ini file to use with my GrandCentral account. The problem is that I don't get the call from GrandCentral when using my phone's internet connection. However, I am able to use the GrandCentral functionality when connected to my computer via USB/ActiveSync and using my computer's internet connection. Yes, I am POSITIVE that my phone's internet connection is functioning properly. I have the unlimited data plan from T-Mobile.

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
The next version will have an error message displayed if an error occurs when communicating with GrandCentral. Until then it's difficult to tell. But maybe it's possible that your phone won't allow you to use the internet and voice at the same time (with GSM and maybe with EDGE I think this might be the case). You could set mycellnumber=[a different number] to see if that number gets dialed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
Are you using the $6 plan? I think that requires a proxy that some programs cannot use properly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] torchpants:
@supbro

Changing phone numbers didn't help. I am using EDGE and have never had any issues receiving calls while browsing.

@outphase

I have the $19.99 total internet plan.

Any other ideas? Is anyone else having this issue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
this is similar to my issue also i think the issue were running into is like what supbro said our phones won't let us do voice and data at the same time

i believe all the people that do have iDialer working have ev-do connections (verzion, sprint, telus, alltel)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
I have AT&T, but I have only used it within 3G range. Voice and data should be independent in this case. The dialer is supposed to send out a data signal then receive the voice call.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Harry Tuttle:
I have the $6 dollar plan, but I'm able to use my mobile browser to make calls so I don't think it's a proxy issue? Was Supbro (sorry had to do it) quick question, I downloaded Icontacts .80 and now I can't dial the contacts at all ; the wait cursor spins then brings me back to my contacts?

Yeah, you could be right if I connect thru PIE my connection is dropped when I recieve the call; does your app want a constant connection?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
hmm i guess it would be safe to say that they won't work unless you phone supports 3G rather it be umts, hsdpa or, ev-do
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
yea i think that it does want a constant connection

cuz to an extent this is kinda like voip
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
It's not voip at all. The way grandcentral dialing works is that the dialer reaches out to the internet to tell the gc server that it wants to dial X. The server then uses Level 3 Communications to call you to connect to your intended recipient. Your phone call occurs completely over your phone network and not the data network.

edit: I just tested it over Edge by disabling 3G. It works fine for me. I am connected to the mobile Internet without a proxy server.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] torchpants:
Argh! It works fine on my T-mobile Wing when connected via wi-fi. But iDialer isn't using my edge network connection for some reason.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
Try disabling your proxy server. I know some stuff wouldn't work for me unless I did.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
If changing the number didn't help, that means your phone isn't communicating with GrandCentral, (or the password is wrong, but obvi not since it works over activesync)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I'm not positive, but I think you have to initiate the connection yourself. An easy way is to load up a web page first, then try iDialer. If this works for you guys I can try to figure out how to initiate the connection automatically in iDialer.

EDIT: I just verified that on my Mogul. I turned off "Data Connection" in the Comm manager, and then iDialer won't make the connection. Opened google.com in PIE, then went back to iDialer and retried the call, and it worked fine.

Obvi this is something I'll fix in the next version. Thanks for all the info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Harry Tuttle:
Guess I'll wait for the next version. An error message will be good and maybe even a ping feature to see if you are able to get to GC.

Thanks for all your efforts.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DeathAxe:
Request / Suggestion

The app looks pretty good and seems very resource efficient, what I thing is very important on mobile devices. I have a suggestion to make: Why don't you replace default dialer just like HTC by a certain hook? They use the following registry entry to let phcanhtc.dll handle drawing of windows' default dialer application. I don't know the API, but I am sure to find it on MSDN. This would in my mind be the most efficient way to integrate your dialer into the system. This would also automatically enable the hardware button to work. Maybe something like an xml-supporting skinning engine would be nice for skin-developers for customizing the dialer's appeareance. Thanks.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin]

"ext"="\\windows\\phcanhtc.dll"

"Enabled"=dword:00000001
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] just2584:
Everytime I've downloaded this program it seems to change something in my Tilt to change it into something that wants to roam has this problem been fixed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I don't think your problem is the fault of iDialer. The only time it would use your phone's internet connection is when it's trying to make a GrandCentral call, and it uses your existing connection, and doesn't automatically connect to any network.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] appan:
Idialer is awsome, but is it possible to have a Config menu? or able to configure in to show the System Taskbar?

its a curious question? why is it showing our phone numbers on the top insted of the Phone service providers name?

also another suggection, after typing the number is it possible to Call the number by just pressing the Phone talk button insted of the iDialer Talk key?

with all these question, can you make a config? so people can choose these options ???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
hmm that's weird cuz i still can't get it to work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
The number on top is there to inform you of which service you are using to dial. In the next version, you will be able to choose between making an outgoing call with your phone or through GrandCentral.

As for the green button, like I've said before, it's not easy to do and I'm working on it. It won't be in the next version unfortunately. I think it's going to have to be a separate program altogether that can run in the background.

Also, the next version will have a configuration script accessible through my website, that will output a .cab file that will set up all your options automatically. You just install iDialer.cab and iDialer-settings.cab and you're all set.

As soon as I get the web script finished, I'll give it to the donors and beta testers and if they don't find anything wrong it should only be a couple days after that when I'll release it to the public.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
would people have to put there username and password onto the site you know people are guarding grand central accounts with there lifes now

and grandcentral account jacking is becoming common

will there be some type of security?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I hadn't thought of it from the "grandcentral account jacking" point of view. I was planning on using a POST form, so the usernames/passwords aren't in the request string. I guess you shouldn't trust the web form any more than you trust iDialer. But if you just don't want to enter anything on a web form, I'll give instructions on the relevant registry entries.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gerzwilk:
would be nice if we have a version for Omnia I900.

this one does not work correctly
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwoodall:
I'd still like to see iDialer useful for Smartphones as well. Preferably so that when called from iContactBE it can direct a call through GrandCentral without putting up a display of the (useless on smartphones) keypad.

I'd really like iContactBE (etc) to be able to flag which way you're calling within iContact as well.

Kermit Woodall

Managing Editor

GadgetNutz.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flaviopac:
Nice......;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
oh okay a post script should be good i just know the gc account jacking is a big thing over on the grandcentral forum
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
iContact v0.81 already does this. I'm not responsible for Burt's edition, but I know he does intend to add iDialer support.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pp56825:
Supbro,

are you planing to integrate idialer with WM6.1, replace standart dialpad?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, I'd like to. I'm trying to figure out how to do it. It seems nobody else knows how...

http://www.supware.net/iDialer/faq/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pp56825:
I found 3 ways to do that:

- Hadware Button mapping [Hbutton app]

pros: works fine

cons: battery and memory grain; if you map TALK button it will also execute idiler while answering the phone and there is no way to baypass this.

- pauldgroot which write Minimal dialer find a way and write own dll which replace standard SECdialer.dll with they own skins.

unfortunatly there is no skin for omnia :( and it is not integrated with icontact app [ i like it ]

- i find some program which enable to replace WM system files. EnableRAPI

I don't try it yet, so please be my guest and try to replace cprog.exe with idialer

posible that you need to add same parameters as used by cprog.exe like " -n %NUMER% or something like this
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pp56825:
i found beter solution today

check post created by us1111, unfortunatly this is not working for cprog.exe, cprog.exe it is not only dialer i think it is core prog in whole WM.

http://www.modaco.com/content-page/...th-flashlite-3-1-and-uc-dthj6-m2d02/page/380/

i have replace calllog with icontact and working fine

!!!!!unfortunatly it's not working for cprog.exe after repacing it i have broke my WM :(

few problems which i got before i found that it's not working:

- performance: it takes time [~1,5 sec ] to start idialer first time its not too much but if you are making it as a default dialpad app it should start immediate :) i know maybe i'm too challenging, but i'm just telling about my feelings

- i can't exit from iDialer using END button, but i can do this when i change tab to icontact.

I think that only solution is that which was found by pauldgroot and write own DLL which replace SECdialer.dll and will be compatibile with icontact app with the own skins
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackangst:
Couple of things. First, when using with SPC shell...sometimes I use the green "dial" button to dial a number, and the default dialer comes up. Second, with a couple of themes built on SPB (only two I tried) there is a contacts quick button page....and on that page is an icon to bring up contact list. Unfortunatly it brings up the old school one not this one. Also on the face of these themes when I hit the missed calls icon it brings up the old call list.

Is there something Im missing to integrate this? Or is this part of the WM6.1 "feature"?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fealtious:
bottom bar?

Hi all.

thanks for all the effort u put in doug.

theres only one problem i have so far.

i cant get the bottom bar of idialer to show, the ones that are the same in icontact. (and yes i know it doesn't work fully yet).(coz i read thru the whole forum trying to find the answer to this seemingly easy problem.

i have the latest version of icontact (.81)

and idialer (.2)

help would be appreciated. (esp since i jus donated) :D (it might not be much, but the aussie dollar is VERY low atm.. ><")

thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
Well, i skinned iDialer to fit my UltimateBlack skin for iContact BE 6.x...

thing is, that i can't skin everything.. and i wanted to ask if you could move the coloring of the dialer itself to an ini/xml file.

here's the simple and unfinished release of the skin... which all in all sits pretty well with my iContact skin.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Maybe iDialer is stored on "\Storage Card\Program Files" and iContact is installed on "\Program Files". They have to both be installed in the same location (either both on storage card or both in main memory). I'd recommend both in main memory, however it should work the other way too...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I'm trying to figure out how to hijack the built in dialer, but I've not figured it out yet.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fealtious:
Thanks.

ur a champ doug.

cheers.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] macman005:
Great work on the Grand Central integration. I love the dialer. Anyway to choose weather or not GC or the regular phone is used on a per call basis. Sometimes I want to use GC but other times like for mobile to mobile calling I want to use the actual phone. Thanks again for making such a cool application.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, that's upcoming in the next version. That's actually why I made it display the phone number in the titlebar... you'll be able to click there to change whether it does GC or standard dialing. The phone number is supposed to indicate the number you're making the call from, since it's not always going to be your cell phone number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mark_Kk:
Thanks to an excellent program.

Finally it is working with icontacts BE ^_^

But when dialing numbers like:

*22#

*101*123456#

and others(CZ, Vodafone),

on my Mitac 701 error:

"Cannot complete the call. The signal may be unavaileble or the phone nomber mey not be valid.... bla... bla... bla.."

Hope so it'll be fixed.

Regards.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Are those real numbers? If they're feature codes, it's true... that's why iDialer can't completely replace your phone's default dialer. Each carrier customizes the dialer with their own feature codes. I don't even know all the feature codes for my own carrier (Sprint), much less those for Vodafone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
supbro, i'm sorry for reposting but the request is so deep into the post i wouldn't be surprised if you missed it.

i wanted to ask if you could move the coloring of the dialer itself to an ini/xml file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I'll probably add this in the future, enough people are asking for it. But I'm very busy right now, and trying to push out the modifications I've already made. So please try to be patient!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
didn't notice anyone else asked for it.. just wanted to know if it's planned.

no rush. thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dnk-kaiser:
Hi guys!

Maybe it's already been discussed here (sorry, so lazy to look through everything), but how could I set this amazing dialer instead of standart dialer of HyperDragonIII Portege?:confused:

In other words, I want this dialer to start working with green button, and "Phone" button, please help
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sabirov:
riginally Posted by Mark_Kk View Post

Thanks to an excellent program.

Finally it is working with icontacts BE ^_^

But when dialing numbers like:

*22#

*101*123456#

and others(CZ, Vodafone),

on my Mitac 701 error:

"Cannot complete the call. The signal may be unavaileble or the phone nomber mey not be valid.... bla... bla... bla.."

Hope so it'll be fixed.

Regards.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
Ooof! israel isn't supported in Grand Central.

that sucks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Keland44:
hey supbro have you checked out www.icall.com ? it would be hot if you could get idialer to be able to switch from wifi from a regular call. think this might be in a future update?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acousticnorbert:
no menu buttons :(

Well I love the dialer. My question: How to display (enable?) the menu buttons (fav. etc - buttom icons)? I just see the numbers, new contact, call and backspace buttons.

Thanks for any help
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
Install supbro's version of iContact.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
the latest version of Burt's Edition works with it as well
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acousticnorbert:
Thanks 4 help but sorry but I've installed iContactBE6.4.5 and it won't work. I've tried it with iContacts0.8.1 and it didn't work too :(

I'm using a xda orbit (HTC Artemis)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hendrixus:
check out this one ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] largenj:
In-Call Screen Request!!

This is what I think would be awesome for the in-talk screen to be!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tom Miller:
I'm having a problem getting it to work properly on my WinMo 6.1 HTC Touch Pro device. I have modified the ini file, and I can dial, but the program simply closes and never makes a connection. I have my wifi turned on, I have soft reset the device several times. Any suggetions? Below is my config of the ini file. Did I do something wrong?

[settings]

; change to name of your skin file

skin=default

;skin=iphone

; To enable grandcentral dialing, change type to grandcentral

; and fill out gcusername and gcpassword appropriately

;type=default

type=grandcentral

gcusername=me@internet.com

gcpassword=123456

; If you would like to use a different phone besides your cell

; (or an incorrect number appears in the titlebar), then set this

mycellnumber=1234567890

[dialplan]

format=1_(N__)

format=1_(NN_)

format=1_(NNN)

format=1_(NNN)_N

format=1_(NNN)_NN

format=1_(NNN)_NNN

format=1_(NNN)_NNN-N

format=1_(NNN)_NNN-NN

format=1_(NNN)_NNN-NNN

format=1_(NNN)_NNN-NNNN

format=NNN-N

format=NNN-NN

format=NNN-NNN

format=NNN-NNNN

format=(NNN)_NNN-NN

format=(NNN)_NNN-NNN

format=(NNN)_NNN-NNNN

format=+1_N

format=+1_NN

format=+1_NNN

format=+1_NNN_N

format=+1_NNN_NN

format=+1_NNN_NNN

format=+1_NNN_NNN_N

format=+1_NNN_NNN_NN

format=+1_NNN_NNN_NNN

format=+1_NNN_NNN_NNNN

Any help you can provide would be great! Thanks

Tom Miller
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acousticnorbert:
thx, minimal dialer runs with the same bug as the other users diskussed in the thread (starts with a red end button instead of the green call btn) - very strange ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Make sure they're both installed on the same disk: both "\Storage card" or both "device"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acousticnorbert:
GREAT THANKS for the hint. That works, small things with big results... (iContact & iDialer both on \Storage Card) All the best 4U
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acousticnorbert:
UltimateM2D fits iContacteBE

Thx 4 the help above. For those who use iContacteBE with UltimateM2D theme (like me ;) ) I've added a iDialer skin that fits the iContactBE.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jatilq:
I just wanted to say thank you for the program. I was going nuts trying to figure this out for my Tilt, but thanks to getting through 11 thread pages its working like a charm. I honestly would rather pay GrandCentral than AT&T when and if it comes.

I was worried when Google took over and read through some facts and they say maybe one day they might charge, still worth it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
The next version, coming out soon, will offer a choice between GrandCentral, Phone.com, and JaJah. Of course, the other two are paid services :).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gthing:
Hey just wanted to say great work on this! I got it all up and running after a bit of trial and error.

Is there any reason icontact and idialer are not integrated into the same app? It would be nice if you just had icontact and could turn on on option to use idialer.

If not, then maybe add a note on both programs pages that says they need to be installed on the same disk to work together. I might have NEVER figured that out!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] acousticnorbert:
If you use iContactBE you can run iContact Config (iContactCfg.exe) or manually edit settings.ini. There's a tab "Anwendungen" (for us germans, maybe "Applications" for the english ones) where you can set up the dialer application to:

EN: \Storage Card\Program Files\iDialer\iDialer.exe

DE: \Speicherkarte\Programme\iDialer\iDialer.exe

-> in settings.ini:

DialerAppplication= \Storage Card\Program Files\iDialer\iDialer.exe
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
I think the main reason is choice!

Combining the two either wastes code doing nothing, or forces people to use both when they only want one.

I personally would love to see the two integrated, but it's down to supbro to make that decision, not us!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sharpstar:
can i use two type contacts?i just want to use two:one is the default built in wm6.1,the others is this app icontact,and i can switch them,

how can i set?

because when i installed the app,and i click the contact,it just go into the icontact app,can't use the default contact,all of them have the differect feature,so i want to use both.

sorry for my english
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sharpstar:
i just say the icontact, not the idialer,because i find the icontact when i use the i dialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
If you have iContact installed, you'll need to go to Start->Programs->Outlook Contacts to load the default contact app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
no credits to the originator? :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] KZIWarrior:
great dailer... need a GC invite...

Love the dialer, works great with your iContacts on my Tilt (running NATF v5 ROM)...

I know this is probably not the correct place to post but does anyone have a GrandCentral invite. I'm in the middle of a move and it would greatly help with managing all my calls (job interviews, apt finding ect.).

Thanks for the work on the dailer and iContacts.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
New version available - 0.3!

There's a new version available today, v0.3. Please see the first post for details.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike21pr:
In call screen soon???

very very nice!!! thank you very much, any chance for an in-call setup also??? i would like to completely replace mt stock dialer with this one but i hate to see the stock in-call screen when i place a call...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yeah, that would be nice... I want to work on that next, after the next version of iContact is released.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
In working on a C++ version of my dialer (FSD), I discovered some functions of GAPI that let you capture the Call/End hardware buttons. If that's of interest to you, I can PM you the relevant bits of code!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
oof.. the more iDialer grows, the more i'm depressed as i can't use it's internet services.

cheers for the hard work supbro. this is really cool.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] harty83:
Love the program!!

Couple of questions:

1) Love the new feature of being able to toggle services. Can you implement it so that it only toggles what is available? Right now I only use my phone (att) and grandcentral. I have to hit the titlebar 4 times to get back to grandcentral.

2) Option to disable the dialing tone. I really do hate dialing tones :-)

Thanks for this awesome app! Can't wait till it can totally replace the built in dialer :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] harty83:
Never mind on this one. I used the online config and it placed "phone" for all the other available services. I deleted "phone" from the registry entries and now it only toggles the two. Thanks!