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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You're right, I'm trying to optimize my version for speed and low memory footprint. Also, I just don't like having pictures in the list view. It sounds like Burt's edition will suit you better.

But I've talked to him about iDialer integration and as far as I know Burt's edition will integrate with iDialer just as well as my version will.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Oh, I see. I do really want to add an in-call screen to iDialer, I just haven't had the time yet. So until then, it's easiest to just place the outgoing call.

I haven't even written a proof-of-concept yet for the in-call screen, but I've seen articles written about things like that so I'm sure it can be done. It's what I want to do next with iDialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Excellent!

I'm attempting to integrate things like that into FSD, and then integrate that with my iShell project, to try and create a complete shell for WM....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] borjamd:
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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
On the other hand... it's impossible to replace the iphone's dialer at.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
OH, i didn't know that! That's great news. I totally respect your intentions. For me, because I am so visual, I have already found that the photo thumbnails for me functionally improve my selectability about 3-fold. So yes, I want to use Burt's branch.

So, as far as you know, his current version integrates with idialer. Do you know if that also means your GREEN BUTTON assignment of idialer as the phone's replacement dialer would work with his version. I will ask him, but to me it is worth asking here too, because for me this is the heart & soul of the phone device -- where these functions come together. Afterall, it is the sum of these 3 things that on other devices = "the phone".

RELATED: I wasn't able to get Green Button working yet on Wing, and have not yet tried your .CAB which coordinates if one has idialer or green button on storage card vs device drive. Therefore, currently, I am using the Paul degroot dialer - which you have also told me is just actually a skin for the Windows Mobile default dialer. It works very well. But I would like to get the benefit of integrated software. So my question: would green button work with Burts iContact?

thks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, GreenButton only affects iDialer so any contact manager should be fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Moe5508:
I can never get the online (skin/settings) config tool to work...it always generates a corrupt cab file...any ideas or should I just dig straight into the registry and manually change the skin from there?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You're the first I know of to have this problem... what type of phone are you using and what is the error message? How many bytes is the .cab file?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Moe5508:
It's 393 bytes in size...must be with my web browser settings... I have WinCE Cab Manager installed on my PC and I can immediately see from the file icon if its the correct size/format...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] norkoastal:
Same issue with my Fuze. None of the config options work..

Love the dialer and hope to see new skins/in call buttons soon for VGA. The sharpness of the dialer is still lacking.

Great work and love the Green button integration.. Will donate soon once VGA is better supported (visually)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lexluthor:
I tried reading through most of this, but still have a couple of questions.

I have a Verizon Touch Pro. I know that the HTC Dialer takes up about 10MB of RAM, which is crazy. But, I've heard that if I disable that, volume adjustment during call doesn't work, flip to mute doesn't work and some other functionality gets disabled.

Can I get this dialer to be the default dialer? If so, does that release the memory the HTC Dialer users? Do I still lose all of the special HTC functionality that are built into their dialer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
No, you can't disable the built-in dialer. iDialer doesn't have any built-in call handling, although I want to add that in a future revision.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bas_sie:
iContact application as the default contact manager

Borrowed from the pocketcm-site but works also for iContact:

How to add this application as the default contact manager?

You can do it by hand:

* Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSCONTACTS

* Change "String 1" value from :MSPOUTLOOK contacts to "\Program Files\iContact\iContact.exe".

Make sure that you add the "" on the new entry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
This is what's done in the iContact setup cab file too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Can I change color to idealer?

Hi I have make a skin in red color for icontact. I have put the same icons to icontact and i dealer so to looks like it is the same program. The only think i can't change is the color of idealer to much the color of icontact. I want from black-blue to make it black-red , and the call button from green to red. Can i do that even with a patch? I have spend hours to make beautiful the icontact, and this is the only missed think.. Thanks ,
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Skinning those colors in iDialer is not possible with this version, but I have been considering adding that in the future.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Thanks for the reply. So the only thing i can do is wait if a newer version support this..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rclios:
Hi Supbro,

If i turn down the volume and when my sms comes in, the phone will not notify by the assigned sound. Anyway to work around this? Sorry newbie here, my first PPC phone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinny:
Hi,

I have a HTC Touch PRO from Sprint, and I mainly use your program to dial GrandCentral, it's great! Thank you very much,

Now my question is:

I first installed both programs, iDialer and iContacts, but then I didn't need iContacts, so I uninstalled it, and was left with iDialer,

But since then I lost the Call Log/History that came with my phone (I think it's part of HTC's dialer), now it is some old Call log without graphics, and a different layout, it looks like it is because of the installation or uninstallation of one of these programs

Is it possible to bring back? does anybody understand what I'm talking about?

I'm pretty frustrated, I really want it back.

Thanks in advance!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinny:
OK, I made A mess, gotta clean it up. :)

this was caused by 'SPB Phone Suite', by enabling pictures in CallLog, I guess this couldn't work with HTC's CallLog,

Nothing to do with your programs! I'm going to install them back now!

Sorry for driving you crazy, but how do you exit the program? the only way is by hard keys?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Just click the titlebar
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
First of all I have to say, that my english isn´t realy good, but I try to explain what I mean :)

It´s a realy nice programm! I love it :)

But I´ve got two requests :\

Is there any way to search for contacts like in the default dialer? If I´m beginning to type a number it would be nice if there were a list with all contacts which agree this "search".

The other one is a better integration with iContact BE. I added iDialer to iContact BE. But if I click on the button iDialer will be started and iContact works in the background. If I close iDialer iContact will popup. I think it would be better if they work together like one programm :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sansnil:
This is really great!

Another request (please) for an option to silence the dial pad tones.

Thanks for all you've done already, really nice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Riccardo83:
Yeah Id love them to work together to get more for us, the end users. I wish they could even implement a SMS / Messaging System like that. Its fast / stable and I love the design, simple...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] flipado:
Hello,

there is some form to unable the sound that reproduces when push in the numbers to realise a call?

Thanks,

are a great program
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Just put your phone in silent mode. Then you won't hear any system sounds.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
iContact works this same way. However, you could set the "exit on minimize" option which makes this work better. I'm sure Burt's edition has that same option.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sansnil:
Sure, ideally it'd be cool though to not have to put the phone into silent mode for that then take it off all the time. No big deal though really, mostly a convenience thing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Ah ok. It was the option "close on action". When the windows changes it´s looking a little bit crazy, but whats not the problem :)

The other requests still exists :) The most putifuly function would be the first request of my previous post.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
No, I'm not planning on implementing smart dial in iDialer. I may try to work in better searching in iContact though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
iDialer v0.41 available, now with more skinnability

I've released a new version of iDialer, now more skinnable! Please see first post for details.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
Wonderful, I'll be skinning it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Thank you very much . I was asking for this a few days ago..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spupuz:
could be cool also for me a skin matching likox burt edition icontact diamond skin
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
an example for skining

I made a skin for the new version of idealer to much better my red skin icontact here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3261708#post3261708

edit.. I think the attachment foto is not in the original size so i uploaded here http://rapidshare.com/files/194615509/default.png
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NiceOneSir:
hey all

seriously, how to turn the sound off when I push a dailing button? its really really annoying. please! and answer please
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
put your phone in silent mode. then you will not hear any system sounds
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NiceOneSir:
no I mean completly NO SOUND. even if my system sound is pulled to the Max. No toot, no toooot and no tooooooot. just silence. anytime, anywhere
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NiceOneSir:
sry but *push* :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
If you read a few posts earlier, you may have read the same response.

Perhaps there isn't a way to get what you want? supbro will in all likely hood consider it, but if it's not top of his to-do list, or he doesn't feel the option is necessary, why would he add it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Exactly. Nobody is forcing you to use iDialer if you don't like it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
subro, if you have the time, think of make a version real vga. All the new phones nave real vga and above, resollution. I know idealer works on vga, but if you use it with icontacts with a vga skin, and press idealer, the icons doesnt look so good in idealer because have less resolution ..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Neither iContact nor iDialer can use VGA skins today. But that's what I'm working on right now. In fact, it works in my development copy of iDialer, but I have to update the skins to VGA before I release it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drmidnight:
Thought I would make a quick skin for this lovely dialer.

Just a mockup right now, still need to make some icons.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rudedog830:
iDialer doesn't dial

I have iDialer installed on a Treo 750 WM6. When I attempt to dial the iDialer application exits and I return to the page from which I invoked the application. What am I doing wrong? I assume that I can use this application over 3g (without wifi).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, I use it with 3g. It sounds like you're encountering some bug. It sounds strange for it to exit with no error message though. Which service are you using? Phone, GrandCentral, JaJah? What number are you trying to dial? (XXX out the last few digits).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rudedog830:
iDialer doesn't dial

Doug, I am using GC and I'm dialing 972562XXXX. I also have a GC dialer on my Nokia N800 and have no problem dialing the same number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tommy_2q:
i also would like to be able to silence the keypad when dialing without muting system sound.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I checked this out and that's what's supposed to happen, except then after your application returns, you are supposed to receive an incoming call from your GC number. I tested this out on my own account, and it did successfully place the outgoing calls but my phone never rang. You could try adding the 1 in front, i.e. 1972562XXXX. But I'll look into it more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jamolah:
Subpro, great application. WM and HTC should use this as their dialer. Simply amazing.

I too was wondering is there a way to turn off the sound on the key press, without having to put the phone on silent?

Thanks. Again, great application.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
New version available, v0.42

I've released a new version of iDialer, v0.42, which adds beautiful, TRUE VGA skins. See the first post for details!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
Thanks very much man ! :) I have asked for 2 things (more skining and true vga skin) and you have done both ! Thanks again. I will post the red skin i have made, in real vga soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
It is beautiful.

I also like the way that iDialer doesn't have the bottom bar if you don't have iContact installed. Nice touch that makes things a bit larger :)

Now though, my problem is that iContact looks ugly and horrible in comparison! :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jamolah:
Great piece of software Subpro.

Just 2 small things:

1.	is there anyway to turn off the tones on the key press? (without being in silent mode on the phone).

2.	When I’m in iContact and press the “HOME” or “<--” button, I notice that iContact is still running (when I look at the task manager). Is it possible to have iContact shutdown, to free-up some memory?

Like I said before, HTC should take some lessons from your iDialer and iContact apps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I have a beta version of iContact with true vga that I will be sending out to the iContact donors very soon. So hang in there!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
That is the "Exit On Minimize" setting

edit: iContact settings can be found under Start -> Settings -> iContact
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NormBo:
Need some help with iDialer and iContact

I had both of these apps working and was very pleased with them. I had to replace my Tilt because of charging issues and am now reloading the newer versions from http://www.supware.net/, BUT, I can't seem to get them to work together. iDialer has completely left off the bottom line where the Favorites etc were located. What do I need to do to get these guys to work together again? OR has anyone come up with anything any better? I like these alot!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] l3v5y:
Shut down both iContact and iDialer and then restart them.

Or just restart your device.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NormBo:
any other suggestions? That didn't work. I really LIKED this app!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NormBo:
iDialer and iContact

any other suggestions? That didn't work. I really LIKED this app!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Maybe make sure they're both installed in the same location (both main memory or both Storage Card)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] quicksite:
Hi Supbro -- I know you work tirelessly to respond to user questions, and to improve your app-suite. So that is all much appreciated!

My question is: Is it possible you could start a tracking system whereby people can, at your site, or here, or via email, provide their phone configurations to you WHERE GREEN BUTTON works.. and also have people like me enter OUR phone configurations listing GREEN BUTTON NOT WORKING, so that maybe some pattern analysis could be performed by members of this forum (if you made that data public)....

This way you would not be burdoned with such an admin task, but yet the data could flow in, which could help pinpoint why Green Button works on some phones, in some configurations, and doesn't work on other phones, perhaps based on some different variable of what ALSO is installed or not installed on those phones?

I have seen this process used at skype.com to help compile lists of cameras that work with Mac OS X systems, and those that don't.

Because everything you have stated to date indicates that GREEN BUTTON *should* work even if one is using Burt's iContact (*which I am)... I know this is the nature of software development -- when there are hundreds of end use devices and all their peculiarities once you add in software configurations.

Just an idea... since ine thing is clear: People are dying to get this to work -- to finally get the integrated suite that we've all longed for since using Windows Mobile with their sh***y interface and usability design :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NormBo:
that worked, thanks so much!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hightechlive:
can idialer replace my dialer on my htc fuze,if so how do i do it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
This is the iDialer thread, not the GreenButton thread. Anyway, I think GreenButton does work for most people, and if not they ask why on the forum. I do read all the comments and if I see common threads I put them on the FAQ (incidentally, people also have to read the FAQ: the solution you quoted was already posted on the iDialer FAQ).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinny:
Hi supbro!

I'd like to thank you! this thing to dial GrandCentral is A life saver for me!

And what do you say to this?

Add to iDialer just the ability to dial from call history without having to use iContacts that automatically takes over your contacts program,

also the ability to paste a phone number,

all this is because usually when someone calls me on my GC number and I missed the call I can look up call history from iDialer and call him back through GC, or if I have his number in contacts I can copy/paste,

Thanks again!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I say it would be much easier to use iContact :) these abilities are built in.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinny:
You're definatly right, but with iContacts you have to give up the original Contacts, and more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] corepda:
is it having vibrate on call function? & some full screen caller function. Thanks Mr.Supbro allover wonderful work. But I believe the features I mentioned would be added advantage. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I am working on an in-call screen. If you want caller-id, you should look at iCaller made by truburt.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] corepda:
what about vibrate on call connect bro?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
my phone's built-in dialer does that already. That would be one of those features I'll have to look at after I make iDialer into a full dialer instead of just a dial plad.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlaci:
volume level

Hi!

Is it possible to lower the volumw of the dialoing buttons? And make it shorter the sound?

It would be nice if we could customize it!

Regards

LJ

ps. and of cource on call screen..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hyden121:
I looked around but i may have missed this. Is there a way to press the call button and have the iDialer pop up? Right not it shows up in iContact but not when I press the call button. Thanks. Other than that I love it!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I've written another program called GreenButton which does that:

http://supware.net/GreenButton
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Hyden121:
Awesome. Thanks and great job!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
v0.43 BETA

I'm working on the next version of iDialer, v0.43 BETA, which adds the often requested feature of a keypad VOLUME CONTROL to the registry, and perhaps even more requested feature of SPEED DIAL. I will be sending the beta out to the people who have made a donation within the next few days.

Anybody who donates up from now until the time I release it to the public will get a copy of the beta.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DigiTuur:
I'm using this program for a couple of days now and I like it very much in conjunction with IContacts.

I do have a problem though. Somewhere during the day, when I start IDialer, my screen turns black. When I tap it, I hear the beeps of the dialer, but I can't see it anymore.

I can still open the windows dialer.

The one way to get the dialer back to function is a soft reset.

Is this a bug?

I use a HTC Touch HD with Laurentius26 V8 ROM

please advice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, it sounds like a bug. But it's one nobody has ever reported before, and I've never seen. It sounds like the skin is being forgotten. Do you have exitOnMinimize option turned on? If you don't, then doing this might solve your problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DigiTuur:
Thanks for your answer.

I turned on exitOnMinimize now. It sounds plausible. I will let you know if this makes a difference
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] outphase:
For those who use GrandCentral: http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlaci:
speed dial

Hi,

I like your iDialer sw, but one important feature is missing: there is no speed dial function. It is very annoying, is it possible to implement it? It would be great..

Regards.,

LJ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlaci:
speed dial

I missed your perv. post, great!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I'll make iDialer work with Google Voice, if it's possible. It is after all just the next version of GrandCentral.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DigiTuur:
Today everything worked just fine after turning on exitOnMinimize.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] toviaheli:
I hope you're able to do it sooner than later. I wasn't paying attention and upgraded my wife's account to the new Google Voice. Now her Grand Central credentials don't work to make outgoing calls. :-(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NormBo:
Need Speaker Phone button too!

I think that the "favorites" star is sufficient for a speed dial and I would rather have a speaker phone button.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I've been working on it many hours already, it's a major pain because they force the use of https. But I think my new solution will be better (when it works) because you don't have to tell me your google password.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tatnai:
Am I missing something, but how do you directly dial from the "star" button?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] toviaheli:
Doug,

Thanks for the update. It is very much appreciated. I've been hoping and praying for your solution a few years before you came up with it! I think I can wait a little longer for the new version!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You knew about Google Voice a few years ago? ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] toviaheli:
LOL. SOrry, meant to say GrandCentral and your solution to enable calling from the phone. I was one of the first on the bandwagon, trying to encourage someone to do some development.

So many sites, so little time to follow-up with them!

Thank you for making my life so much easier!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
New version available, v0.43

A new version of iDialer is available: v0.43. Please see the first post for details!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] j-a-c-k:
New version

How to enable smart dialling???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
(Added volume control setting to registry (volumeKeypad: 1 - 100)

The path ? Thanks T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Aftashok:
nvm..........
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
I found it, Thanks T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tatnai:
Still trying to figure this out as well . . . TIA