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[P3600 ROM Development] RedBux:
Mine Kaput???

Hi all

Any kind of help to revive my P3600i would be appreciated

Scenario prior to "kaput"

1. Been using n073e_i for almost a week.

2. Flashed rom than restore back up by using Sprite Backup

3. Today received call after that stop the call when conversation ended.

4. Screen power off at my preset time @ 1 min.

5. about 10 mins later pick up the phone "on" the screen, located the desired number. hit the call/send button.

6. The unit just dies off.

7. Pulled battery out. Reinserted

8. Hit the power button to "on" the unit

9. Just a splash of HTC boot page.

10. Repeat step 7 and 8. Quickly entered Hard SPL (three colours)

11. Re flashed the rom...succeed.

12. My unit just dies off after HTC boot page splashed.

Help needed

Is it hardware prob???

or any program corrupted ?

2 hours before I encounter "kaput" situation I had soft reset the unit due to Garmin XT;s problem. (forgotten the problem code )

regards
[P3600 ROM Development] skee81:
Did you try flashing a totally different rom?
[P3600 ROM Development] RedBux:
Done

Same thing happening
[P3600 ROM Development] cft----4u:
Hi all.

After i upgraded the rom than i restart that ,P3600 just display the green power led .

I try hard reset .Now can not sync it .Screen haven't respond.

Please help me and how can i solve this problem.

Thanks for all
[P3600 ROM Development] skee81:
try putting back original htc rom first, and see if it works with that. Put it into bootloader (power+cam button and soft reset) and flash it.

If not working with an other rom (like htc original), you might have broken your device...
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Not sure if this will help, but are you trying to install it whilst your device is Active Synced to PC via usb cable? If so, try installing with no usb connection.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Sometimes, the best way to test a ROM is to try out the competition... I have, and I'm most definitely back to THIS Rom (no73e).

I was worried about the time it was taking to locate GPS (over two minutes), BUT following a reflash, Tomtom just got a signal in 41 seconds, which is great! (same location and weather conditions).

Out of interest, has anyone bothered to install themaskfly's "HTC_QuickGPS" cab to no73e? If so, did it make any difference?

Mattster.

p.s. Nosedive: Have you never had a donation link?
[P3600 ROM Development] mghtc:
You are The king of roms

Any light version programmed for the future?

Nothing else like Your fabulous 06.13?

Thanks for Your hard work

MG
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
I have the same question.

I just took out my sd card thinking I had turned the device off, when in reality the shut down menu hadn't shut down the device. It wiped my sd card, which was a shame.

How do we switch off the phone?

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] Kenzneth:
PsshutXp wont shut your mobile as past....

the only way is to unplug your battery.

Google psshutxp for more information
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
no, i never had one..

yeah.. i'm looking for a solution to this.. i'm quite sad about the non working psshutxp.. i want to get this fixed for n074e or i might replace this with some other program that will shutdown our device
[P3600 ROM Development] joncgde2:
nosedive, any chance you know what is stopping me from installing other SIPs on n073e?

I can install SIPs on n072e... so I think maybe because you added the opal full qwerty SIP, this has somehow locked the user out of adding their own?

If that problem cannot be fixed, any chance we can get the opal

phone keypad

added instead? i'm sure the letter recognizer is not used often, so maybe that can be removed - and the more popular phone keypad added in its place? :) by this, I mean the keypad on the far left:

also, i noticed you have a todo section, where you listed you want to improve the dialer skin. can i suggest this? it would match nicely with the calculator skin, and the full qwerty sip you have added:

(ignore the white text)

also, one last thing: have you ever considered using calibri as a system font? i saw it in this post ( http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1908000&postcount=1 ) and it looks so clean! might look nice in your rom? lol

cheers

jon
[P3600 ROM Development] Kenzneth:
1. Reboot in landscape mode but the blue boot screen wont rotate

2. calculator do not have a lanscape mode skin

thxs
[P3600 ROM Development] mariusY:
no light...

the light in this rom is very poor. what can i do to incrase it? i saw just in camera i have the right Light level. and in settings i didn't find a backlight setting.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
you can regulate backlight in power options..
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
I've been searching on the forum but it seems to be unresolved at the moment.

No worries. I've gone back to your 0.7.2 for now. It shuts down fine (no psshutxp), and works just as fast (except can't receive files via Bluetooth and killactivesync doesn't work).

Looking forward to 0.7.4 with no psshutxp.

Thanks,

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] joncgde2:
Don't know if P3600i problems are unique and unrelated to Trinity users, but I got a complete lockup today when trying to read a message - using n073e.

Just thought I'd post this in case it's worth mentioning.

Cheers

Jon
[P3600 ROM Development] PaulMcC:
Same here - 073 was requiring alot of hard resets on my p3600i, and many complete ROM reflashes required also.

I have returned to 072 for now! Stability is a bit of an issue on the p3600i with this one - but thanks for trying to get it going on the i
[P3600 ROM Development] Andych:
So far there have been no problems or hard re-sets on my P3600i...touch wood. Admittedly there are no programs loaded other than what comes with the ROM. My other half bought a dedicated GPS so there is no need for Tomtom now. We will see how it goes but the inability to turn the phone off is a bit of a pain.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
A word of advice: Don't bother trying to find a solution to this. The forum is full of threads offering applications that map power off to a new button or program, but they all end up presenting you with the psshut dialogue box. I was on a plane the other day and had to use Flight Mode as it was impossible to switch it off. (Taking the battery out is not something I would recommend whilst the phone is on.)

Shame cos apart from that this Rom is superb with lower memory consumption and longer battery life than any other Manila Rom I have ever tried. Looking very much forward to an update.

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] Andych:
I don't have the time to look for solutions like that, besides, I am sure Nosedive is already working on a solution / update.
[P3600 ROM Development] guy73:
hi nosedive,

it would be great if add the 3G option in the Comm Manager.
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
Ultra lite?

Hey Nosedive,

Haven't been around the forum for a long time, and just came back to review your rom's thread.

Admittedly, I no longer use your rom, but not bacuse it is bad, but because I am fed up with M2D on trinity. After pointui2 released the 2.18 version, and with some nice theme and applets I like my phone much better without M2D. I get better response from the phone, and animation is quite nice with pointUi2. However, now I am after a nasty little rom that will give me as much RAM as possible (well, nothing changed, I was after it all the time).

Any chances you will consider an ultra lite version, either 073 or later? Just a thought.

To make things clear- I have figured out over a 24 hours of use of M2D I have 4-5M of RAM unreleased even if M2D is turned off, no matter what tools i use to clear RAM. My current situation is that with your rom (but with others too) I have to soft reset the phone once a day to gain back RAM. Since i use iGO daily, I need any free bit I can, and resetting the phone means longer time to get GPS fix (initiate and GPS fix is 2.5 minutes or so). really annoying. Other cookers have an ultra lite rom, but i want to have one of yours, as I came to be a fan of your roms.

Here are some numbers to beat, should you accept this mission: with 4M page pool, fresh start (no plugin) I can get 51M RAM, 30.1M free. Connecting to exhange server and push mail drops me to 25M-26M free RAM. Still OK for iGO, if no TTS. The beauty about pointUi2 is I can turn it off and on very quick (I use mToday), and since I don't need to soft reset to free RAM, my 'up time' to get a GPS lock from the turn off moment is in seconds (about 30 seconds to lock). Very handy for a busy person on the roads.

Thanks

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hi guy73

You can do this by using Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool. It's cooked into this ROM (otherwise it is a free cab, do a search in XDA forum).

Once in it, select menu on the bottom right and you will see a "Comm Manager" settings change. Don't bother trying to reorder them. Just untick one of the others (that you don't personally need) and tick 3G. Make sure in total you still have six ticked.

From then on, you'll see the 3G switch on / off in Comm Manager. You'll find loads of other useful tweaks available too with this program.

Hope this helps,

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
he he..

just to tell.. i'm working on a lite rom for n08 ...

i finally got away of the idea of using m2d ... this started with the release of the iolite rom and the footprints tab in m2d... this takes far to much memory from trinity - about 30megs running all tabs

far too much and system gets too laggy for using it for business.. so i started development of a light lite rom ~2 weeks ago..

i have not yet fully translated the source from 0404 and there are still some packages to separate, but work is in progress.. this is damn hard work, don't expect this to come early..

cu

nosedive
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Iolite & footprints does seem to be asking too much of our humble Trinities, I fear we are coming to the end of an era.

However, before we say goodbye to Manila, I hope you manage to find time to update no74, with no psshutxp. It's a great ROM.

(no73 would have been perfect but it had bluetooth issues and activesync kept appearing in processes).

Thanks,

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
well.. i wouldn't say goodbye to m2d, but this is far too much demaning memory from our trinity.. i was quite amazed when i tried footprints first... looks nice and the idea behind it is also great.. take pictures with gps info and upload it to share with other people... the dark side about footprints is used memory goes up to at least 30megs and you need to run tomtom to use the footprints you created... so after installing tomtom .. there was about 20 megs left.. no not program memory but storage on the device.. so where should my mails go? damn..

guess what.. i reflashed n073e...

about the psshutxp ... i found a version of this nice program that asks for a poweroff.exe if i click on shutdown... so maybe there will be an update with a working psshutxp

would that be an option to you mattster? ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] guy73:
I'm sorry, this is dedicated to chanvi actually, i have make the wrong post. in the chanvi rom there is no 3G option in the comm manager. sorry again.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
That'd be good. Or, just leave it as a post install cab option for those who want psshutxp. Thanks:-)

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] skee81:
after a month of usage...

Nosedive,

I come back to you with more than a month of experience with n073.

I still say rom is great (best I've ever had for my trinity), but reading your lines from the last few days, I also have to say M2D is a bit too much for trinity.

The reason I fall in love with your rom, was the initial almost 26Mb ram, after flashing (with m2d enabled).

Now I still have 25Mb after a soft reset, but using it for a few hours and a few apps, it ends up having 18.

This results in unstable iGo running, or Opera or whatever app with higher mem consumption (it exits, or at least minimizes while running).

Apart from this the rom is still fast and stable, I love it, and I'm dying to see n08... :)

cheers,

skee
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
I just tried to install Opal Keyboard but it tells me that the installation is unsuccesful because i haven't got system permissions.

Anyone knows how to solve this?
[P3600 ROM Development] joncgde2:
I had the exact same problem :(

I think it is because nosedive cooked in the Opal full QWERTY - somehow this is interfering with installing our own opal on top? Maybe I'm wrong, not sure

Anyway I gave up trying to get things to work, and went back to n072e in order to use my Opal SIP... you might need to do the same thing
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
or a new version of the rom must be created
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
ha ha...

i'm still spending much time on it ;)

but i could update n073e once more.. so you're also interested in the other sips besides full qwerty? compact keyboard and keypad?
[P3600 ROM Development] Snake_A:
Man you are The Master. I love your Roms. You do such an excellent Job. The problem is these 2-3 bugs. The Rom is reially Fast!

Thank you For cooking Roms for Us free!

Yes, im interested in Keypad especially...

Also:

1) Shutting Down is a Problem

2) Where Can I find the games (Solitaire and Breaking Bubbles)?

Thank you very much again!
[P3600 ROM Development] joncgde2:
Also, if you put in the opal qwerty, can the standard windows qwerty be removed? Because there is no use in having 2 qwerty sips... and opal looks much more professional anyway... and maybe letter recognizer?

I think more sips = more memory? So deleting some might save memory?
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
yeah thats true.. removing sips saves memory..

letter recognizer, standard qwerty keyboard and the other what ever its called sip use the same dll (and about 400kb memory)

unfortunatly opal sip takes about 2mb mem, and furthermore ca. 50% of screen..

anyways ... i'll think about that
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hi Nosedive. Out of interest, have you looked into FingerMenu at all? Looks interesting...

FingerMenu by Francesco Carlucci

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] nosedive:
yes i know that program.. works nice.. but i don't like the menu too large so i need to scroll up and down :(
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hi Nosedive.

Any news on the next update?

If you are working on one, it would be useful to be able to put shortcuts to Backlight, Soft Reset and Comm Manager in the Manila Launcher Tab. It may just be me, but having them there is very useful. I also hope the next update lets us turn off the device and doesn't have the "An unhandled error has occurred in the shell. Attempting to restart the shell" issue.

In the meantime, my fave ROM to date is still no72e (even though bluetooth can't receive files). The memory management is incredible. Soft resets to 50% and rarely goes above 55%.

Looking forward to update as always.

Mattster
[P3600 ROM Development] kabtv:
To be honest, this is the most stable Manila Rom i tried!!!

I see, in your signature, that you're working on a new ROM.

i'm thrill to try it!!!

Thanks to share yours creations with us.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Will check back later. :-)
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
:) Damn it Mattster, You have beaten me up with the same questions i had in mind... and very good ideas for shortcuts. BTW- Nosedive - I am at your service to beta test it if you want to have my poor trinity as your Guinea pig.. before you post and punish everyone else...:p:D I really enjoyed doing so for your 0.72.. just promise me it is naked lite version without M2D. I am running home2 by pointui for a month now and it is by far superior for trinity. I also tried a couple of WM6.5 and think it is too much to ask our trinity to live with and still have performance/memory to run apps while push mail is on. But it is just my humble personal opinion.. Chanvi thinks the opposite..

Last word of advice - WM6.5 suffers from a bug syncing to exchange servers. It is true to all 6.5 cooked roms, on all phones (believe me, i was losing quite many hours instead of sleeping, looking for a solution) so if you think about 6.5 please see if you can sync to an exchange server... it's really important to many of us, I mean the 'grown-ups' that happen to work (if did not lose their job lately) and have to sync office mail.

Hope to hear from you soon.

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
I reacted to WM6.5 in the same way - in fact, it sent me on a crazy three week mission to find the fastest, lowest memory consumption ROM out there! The best I got with a light non-Manila ROM (once I'd added Spb pocket plus, spb phone suite and resco photo viewer) was a max memory consumption of around 51%. But with Nosedive's Manila ROMS, it hardly goes over 55% anyway, so I too am very much looking forward to an update on Nosedive's no73e.

Chanvi & Oggi's work opens doors, of that there is no doubt. When ROMS take a turn of direction, it is normally their initial experimentation that paves the way, and that includes all the users who test their ROMS and give feedback.

However, technical advancement does come at a price. Memory consumption on their ROMS does at the moment seem high (although on latest releases it is definitely improving). After a soft reset, it is not long until 67% + is reached, and that's when applications start to close down, which is obviously frustratiing to people who depend on such applications, like BigE.

Testing is great, having the latest ROM is exciting, but at the end of the day some of us also need a ROM that allows our device to serve our personal needs. That's why I always end up coming back to Nosedive's.

So, bring on the update Nosedive!

Mattster
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
testers have to be masochists..

masochism is the only definition I can describe myself with. Here it is- I have Finix 3.7UL rom that works fast, do not leak memory, I get emails on all 3 accounts, navigate with iGO in 3D with buildings on and DEM on high resolution, answer the phone and use BT and WiFi flawlessly. That is me, Dr. Jekyll of daytime. Then at night I become Mr. Hyde. ... :eek:

Flash crazy roms, and try to make them work. Never sleep, drooling on my phone's screen pray it works , and never fail. Of course I get disappointed almost every time because something does not work. Then I go back to the rom I had before, bored to death with it, but hey, it works and I can go back being Dr. Jekyll for another day.. and hope Nosedive, Chanvi, or a new cooker will come with the dream of roms, that will have 50M free RAM, WM6.5 and without bugs.

In one word - a masochist..:o Will I stop? Probably not, as there is no complaint in this text, just a status update of how things are for me and my fellow testers. :cool:

Nosedive - looking forward for 0.73. I am addicted, so you know i will scrifice more sleepless hours as soon as you release it..

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] kkcheung:
Nosedive,

I just flashed your 0.73 and tested for few days~ I can say it works stable and fast!

The only thing I found is Streaming video is not working when I go my operator's wap page....:(

Good work ! Thanks ~

hope you can consider to put streaming fuction in your next rom~
[P3600 ROM Development] didoop:
my opinion,request

so ... i have installed this rom on my fathers trinity ... and my problems with it ..... after using this rom for 3 days without sitching off I have only 20 percent and less RAM left (on my vox nothing like this happenining after new rom .. SYS is 20282 and I dont know if this is same in PPC ) ! next if im going to drag (or tap) tab in mannila (or anytime anywhere in menu , apps) the start menu appears ! Next and last question ..... how to make in mannila left button to start new msg(without recipient) only now start writing ??? Is there for that any *.ink or something like that ??? BUT anyway its good and fast.

//EDIT:and next bug is when rom starts I want to write PIN and it fade .... i must wait to start programs and then swith phone (in comm mng) off and on !!! NeXt I recommend AX3L CONTACTS MANAGER included in his rom .... its veeeryyy gooooood and my father always want it and I cannot find how to from AX3Ls ROM extract it and include in yours
[P3600 ROM Development] mariusY:
hey there.

i have a problem:|

i broke the M2D skin from your rom , from mistake , trying to backup it to put another skin. and now i don't have the menu anymore.

can you tell me what skin was that? and upload it for me please?

thanks.
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hi MariusY,

What "menu" are you referring to?

The default manila theme can be downloaded from

POST 4

of Twolf's thread below (click on link). It's always worth having it on your sd card incase you need to go back to the default theme:

Original blue default skin uploaded by robertus3d | M2DC Theme

Hope this helps,

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] kabtv:
WOW :eek: more than 30 free MB oh my god...!!!

Is the n08 version include M2D ? :rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
WOW!

I second that... 30MB? What the....? :eek:

Great work! We need somebody to figure out how to give us back precious memory.

Thanks nosedive. :D
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
Free RAM

Well, Nosedive is known for good chunk of free RAM on his roms, and I am one of the people nagging him constantly to have even more RAM. I am in between the few who currently have the nerve to run WM6.5 and iGO8 in full HD/3D on trinity . I use a lot of tricks and tweaks to get there but certainly a good cooked rom like Nosedive's is a fresh air for my needs.

I admittedly not on a nosedive rom recently, because I lost interest in the WM6.1 arena. I was one of the loudest against WM6.5 until Chanvi proved me wrong and cooked a great one. Nowadays i can get 24-25M free RAM even with WM6.5 so 30M on a WM6.1 is , IMO, a good number but not that surprising as it seems to some here.

The main question is if Nosedive is going to try WM6.5 any time soon. If yes, i am back on testing. After a while using the WM6.5 GUI , the WM6.1 seems faint.. no offense to Nosedive, it is the MS crap that got a bit better, better arranged and less buggy (well they have newer bugs now..)

Lastly- memory leaks. Start with 30M sounds promising. Add ASYNC with exchange server, and it drops dramatically. Again- not a cooker's fault..

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
I assumed this was 6.5. Not the case??
[P3600 ROM Development] BigE:
WM6.5

Yes, I am using a WM6.5 currently, and can tell you I have 25M on a fresh start, not too bad considering WM6.5 has much more to offer than 6.1

the GUI is so much better, finger friendly and easy on the eye, and I do not refer to CHOME (hate it) or the bee hive looking start menu (OK , but not great). I use home2 as today plugin, but it is memory consuming. got tiered with M2D as well... so home2 is the solution, as long as one knows how shut it down to free RAM for stuff like iGO.

Back to the comment regarding nosedive's memory cleaning - as stted, after testing dozens of roms, yes, his would be pretty much the max one can ask. Also pretty fast too. alas I think I am not going back to WM6.1 now... Sorry nosedive, but I think it's about time to move on. I was thinking our Trinity won't make it to this stage, and it does, so I moved on..

BigE
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
Hey Nosedive.

Good to see you back.

Looking very much forward to whatever you produce.

6.5 is not yet for me (in my experience it's still slower and for my taste not visually attractive or functional), though I know it has its fans and Chanvi has made some great advancements. Your last Manila2D is still the best of the crop as far as I'm concerned, but at the moment I'm still into Spb MS 3.0, so I use FInix's light rom.

I see the big boys are already above so I'm looking forward to the resurrection of this thread.

Mattster.
[P3600 ROM Development] SuperSport:
Actually, I was refering to nosedive's new ROM. I assumed it was the release of WM 6.5
[P3600 ROM Development] joncgde2:
bring out the new nosedive rom! :D

always eager to try your roms :D
[P3600 ROM Development] Mattster_spv:
I've been away for 2 weeks, still looking forward to this update. :D