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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsfr:
Hello Doug,

Okay, now I understand the purpose of the -name argument. Thanks for clarifying that.

The -name argument is actually quite useful now that I got it working. The -name argument will only use the name specified if the number being dialed is not already associated with a saved contact. Since I was using the "callingcard" service type for Google Voice, my phone was directly dialing my Google Voice number. Well, my Google Voice number was associated with a contract entry that I created for myself using the name of "Hozian, Chris". So, every call was displaying "Hozian, Chris" instead of the name specified using the -name argument. Now that I have removed my Google Voice number from my own contact entry, the -name argument works great and I have accurate name entries in my phone's call history when dialing through Google Voice. Yay!

Since all of my voice dial shortcuts call numbers which are already associated with saved contacts, the name specified using the -name argument is disregarded when using the "phone" service type. That makes sense and is fine with me. In the rare case that I create a voice dial shortcut to dial a number that is not already associated with a saved contact, then the name specified using the -name argument will be displayed when using the "phone" service type.

Please feel free to add any or all of this information to your site! :) If you don't object, please include the use of the -name argument in any examples that are provided. Also, it may be useful to explain under what conditions the -name argument will be utilized.

Wow! The inaccurate call history when using voice dial shortcuts to dial through Google Voice was my only remaining issue. Now iDialer does everything that I want it to! Thanks so much for such a great peice of software! It is greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Chris Hozian
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsfr:
Feature Request: Command-line option to specify the service to use for a call

Hello Doug,

I do have one feature request. I would like for there to be a command-line option to specify the service to use for a call. My suggestions for this are something similar to the following.

Dial using the "phone" service type:

"\Program Files\iDialer\iDialer.exe" 2560000000 -name=Chris Hozian -servicetitle=phone

Dial using the "callingcard" service type that has the title of "G-Mobile Card":

"\Program Files\iDialer\iDialer.exe" 2560000000 -name=Chris Hozian -servicetitle=G-Mobile Card

I can't think of any reason why someone would have more than one service with the type of "phone". That's why I listed it with a generic title rather than the service title that may be associated with it.

In all other cases, I think it may be good to specify the service to use by the service's title. This is because some people may have multiple services of the same type.

Regards,

Chris Hozian
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] prbr123:
Hi - I have installed the latest idialer on tilit. Very first time it asked for google voice login and everything worked fine correctly. Later I have installed icontacts and it worked fine too.

I went into idialer config and I made a cab file just with my name and gv number and installed that cab on my tilt. Now idialer is not working -

It is saying unexpected results from google voice.

Is there a way to remove the configuration - I have added ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Read my post from a few back, and carefully read the help text on the Config page.

Hint: You don't put your GV number into the Config anywhere, I assume you're talking about the Callback number. That's the number GV is *calling*, ie: put your cell number in there or leave it blank and it'll call the first of your list of phones (I assume?).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AssassinsLament:
Hey supbro, I'd like to thank you for a great dialer and contact program.

I wasn't sure where to request this feature but since it deals with iDialer too, I thought I'd ask here. I'm using iDialer strictly for google voice only. And so, is there a way to open up iDialer and select a contact from iContact?

There doesn't seem to be a way, because once I click on the contacts icon bar on the bottom, I get the contacts but can't select that contact into idialer. Sure I can click on the number in iContacts but it launches and dials

with the default dialer and thus doesn't go through google voice. Which at the same time is what I want too, because there are times when I'd want to dial a contact from iContact with the default dialer(not with google voice).

So I was wondering if you could add a button (or Two) in iContact, next to the contacts number? One to dial with the regular dialer, another button to dial with iDialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
That sounds like a decent idea. I'll look into it for the next version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Actually if it's blank it will look up your cell phone's number through an API on your phone and use that. But using the default GV number instead might be a good idea.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
It always goes through iDialer if you have iDialer installed. You should setup iDialer for Phone + Google Voice (which is what already happened if you installed iDialer-gv.cab). Then you can choose which iDialer method to use by clicking the service name in the titlebar in either iDialer or iContact. I've been thinking on how to make it easier (than clicking in the titlebar) to choose your service.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AssassinsLament:
Hmm, that's weird. Because I have both iContact(your version) and iDialer installed in program files, but I get only get the default dialer. Although I did use your online config tool to make my google voice calling card only cab. Would that change which dialer i get?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Have you tried restarting iContact? What does the service title say in iContact?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] AssassinsLament:
What do you mean by restarting iContact? I usually install iContact first but I did uninstall it and reinstalled it, but same thing. Where do I find the service title? Unless you mean at the top? Mine just says "iContact"

Is there a registry setting that tells iContact which dialer to use? Because I read a post somewhere in either this thread or the iContact thread that there was a location in the config to point to the dialer.

For the life of me, I don't have that option in the config, so I assumed it was an older version they were talking about. (Because that post was early in the thread)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ig1628:
Dialer

That is a very good ? , i have the same problem

ig1628
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
I bet what's going is his default is his normal phone? I've noticed it reverts back to Choice #1, so when a call is made from iContact it in fact goes through iDialer but you see the normal phone screen because it's calling directly. This is normal, right? I'm new to this, just this is what I've observed.

So for me, if I launch iContact directly and place a call immediately after a soft reset, I see the normal phone app 'dialing' and it calls directly because that's the first in my config list.

However, if I tap the top of iContact to change that to Google Voice, it does clearly dial using iDialer to GV.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
supbro,

The little pop-up windows that show up for dialing a number, could those be redone so they aren't so small and have such a small button to close them? Perhaps an "okay" button under the text, and larger? They don't really fit in.

And perhaps the 'informative' ones (like dialing..) should go away automatically after a second or two, but error ones perhaps require dismissing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arizonaomnia:
Default service?

Is there a way to set a default service? I would prefer to use my Phone service as the default for every call made and have to choose to use my Google Voice account. iDialer is AWESOME....but appears to default to GV. Thoughts?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
It is supposed to stay at where you last set it. Maybe there's a bug.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, this is normal. Though I don't know why it reverts back to choice #1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Are you using the -debug version? Those won't show up on the non debug version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ldrn:
I just started using iDialer; it is pretty keen -- thank you for writing it. So far, it has worked best for me for dialing google voice numbers out of all the alternatives.

A different way to choose the service would be really nice, though; i don't know how to change the service when it is off fullscreen mode. Also, I am also exeriencing the no bottom buttons problem -- it is not a big deal to me, though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
It's not a problem, it's just that you don't have iContact installed.

Here's my idea for the next version: what about using "up" and "down" on the dpad to change service? The green "call" button could also display service name, and a long-tap on that button could allow you to change between them.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
Oops, maybe I need to re-download, I was thinking that I'd picked up the latest version with Apptodate already :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
supbro,

Oh, one more suggestion I forgot to make the other day.. Could you make up/down dpad switch the service? I know the devices with a dpad seem to be dwindling, but it'd nice to be able to do that without tapping the top edge of the screen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TQVu:
supbro,

sorry if you got this message before but the idialer lower bar doesn't seem to be working on my i760 because i want too set up my google voice, and when I try to make a call it get and error message that says "unexpected results from google voice!"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
See post #662
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Make sure you have setup your mobile phone as a device on google voice. Go to (settings -> phones) and add your phone to the list. I think this might be what is causing some people to have trouble. Please reply if it works for you.

To get the tab bar, install iContact.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TQVu:
supbro,

I have try that I have even delete my number and putting back in i try restarting my phone, uninstalling and reinstalling it many times. I have even did a hard reset on my phone...sill have the same error message.

I know I am asking a lot so thanks for your help
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
:D I wonder if I missed it or subconsciously was agreeing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jla3742:
Awesome program, thanks! I didn't take the time to read every post in this topic, but I looked over quite a few of them, so I apologize if I discuss something that has already been covered.

I have a Samsung Saga that has a keyboard below the screen. The onscreen dialer is great, but it would also be nice to use the dialpad on the keyboard to dial a number (it doesn't work for me in the newest v0.51).

In the same line, it would be nice to be able to dial a number, then press the green call button to dial. However, if I do that now, the legacy dialer loads to dial the number. As long as I press the green call button first (after loading your Green Button app) then dial, it works fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ldrn:
Of course I do -- I have this nice version of iContact I downloaded several months and rom flashes ago and...

... oh. Hey, nifty! A, um, 'new' version of iContact on your site, right were only a real idiot could miss it. <_<

Also, wow, that really IS super keen, both how they integrate and in its own right. I like the TouchFlo-like skin, too. :D

That would be awesome; for how I use/want to use it, it would work perfectly, too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
(11 August 2009) iDialer v0.52 - Google Voice Callback

New version available, v0.52. See first post for details!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mrono:
any way to dial out directly from the build in contact list without using icontact?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Not with v0.52 but it's on my todo list for the next version.

You could use the -choosecontact command line argument. It will allow you to choose a contact without having iContact installed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] squint:
If iDialer is loaded up on my Treo Pro - it is a battery drain. Within 5 hours my battery is completely empty.

Is this normal?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] carm0033:
Hi Doug,

my problem: I am trying to get iDialer to call out using the calling card feature so it uses my cell phone minutes.

I have been using iContact since I got a Windows Mobile phone a few months ago and love it. After getting a Google Voice

account two days ago, I came upon the iDialer program. I downloaded the new version (0.52, 11 August) and then the config CAB. For the config cab, I entered:

Dialplan: North American

Service 1: Standard (Phone)

Title: Sprint

Service 2:

Google Voice (calling card)

Phone number MY GOOGLE NUMBER

Pin: pXXXXp

I could not switch to using Google Voice by tapping on the top left, it just sent minimized the program and

sent me back to the phone's home screen. I then uninstalled the program but did not fix the registry.

I then installed the the cab that was set up for Google Voice already (iDialer-gv.cab). This works but

it did not prompt me for my google account sign in as was shown on screenshot 2 of the supware.net/iDialer page.

When I place calls, it calls back my cell phone number and I can hit talk and wait a second for it to connect.

So this version is working, but I presume it is using the "callback" version where it is using the data connection to make the call? I would like to switch it to the "calling card" version so that it uses my cell phone minutes.

Just for clarification, when I am at the config page, for service 2, I choose Google Voice (calling card) and then should I be entering my sprint number or my Google voice number? What about the pin? This is my google voice PIN, correct?

I'm so close to this being a perfect setup, I just need to be able to use it as a calling card feature and not use the data plan.

The main reason is because it is annoying to have to answer a callback to connect because I have to remember to silence it before I call and unsilence it after I'm done.

Thanks for all your help and for writing some great programs

I am using an HTC Touch Pro on Spring running WM 6.1
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I know I did cause some confusion with v0.52. I changed the method to switch service. You'll notice the service title has moved down to underneath the Call button. To change service, use up or down on the D-Pad, or long-tap the call button itself.

The first config cab file you generated looks perfect, you should just run it again. There's no need to uninstall iDialer-gv. Installing your config cab will overwrite the iDialer-gv settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] carm0033:
Wow thanks for the fast response. Using the iDialer-gv.cab, I am able to switch the service using the d-pad, and it shows up below the call button as you said. What I want to do is change the google voice from the callback method to the calling card method. When I reinstall the v0.52 config cab, I am no longer able to switch service using the d-pad, and I cannot switch it by tapping on the top left. Is there a way for the iDialer-gv.cab to call out using the calling card setting and not the callback? Why doesn't the v0.52 allow me to switch?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] n230099:
Erasing Contacts

I love this software but have had to uninstall it a couple of times. My contact list simple goes away. I can uninstall it and restore it with active sync but when I reinstall it my list lasts a short time then it's gone. I'm using an AT&T Tilt.

I have looked for a similar complaint but have not seen anything quite like it. here. Has it got something to do with the on board list vs the SIM list?

Any thoughts appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arirang:
Game Changing App

iContact was already cooked in my ROM [Adrynalyne 3.0 M2D], and this GV dialer integrates seamlessy and works like a charm. allowing the Omnia's D-pad function to toggle between profiles is simply ELEGANT.

dailing my GV was a hassle and i hadnt it used since i configured my account in june. NOW, i'm comfortable sharing my GV phone since idialer insures the recipient's callerid displays my GV number.

the ONLY thing i had to modify was append my existing contact numbers with an area code [including local], and when dialing a non-contact number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Maybe you just need to refresh your iContact "All Contacts" cache? When on the all contacts tab, tap the all contacts button again to refresh the cache.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Thanks!

Nowadays, it's a good idea to just always store your numbers as 1+area code+number. "Local" doesn't mean what it used to. It's the same idea as this: If you have a Los Angeles cellphone and you are walking around New York, you still have to dial 1-646-xxx-xxxx to call the Starbucks down the street.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ejlmd:
Hi Doug,

A thought for a future version:

Could iDialer automatically and transparently pick up the first GV ringback, so it feels more like a standard call to the initiating caller?

Thanks. v.52 has been awesome.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ldrn:
This is great! I can now use iContact and iDialer in non-fullscreen mode and still pick how I want to call; it's awesome.

Thank you again for these great apps.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ejlmd:
Hi Doug,

With .52, while in the dial screen one changes between GV and the carrier using the dial pad. But the upper left text ('Sprint' vs. 'Google Voice') does not change in sync with the changes in the little dialog box.

Also, in any other screen, one can still change the service by tapping the upper left text.

I'm not sure if this behavior is exactly the way you intended.

Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bugsy714:
Howdy,

I'm trying to get this running on my fuze, everything installed nicely & integrated with the icontacts but when I try to call using gv it says unexpected error please contact us or sometimes it give me the windows wait timer and then disappears

How can I reset the gv user & password info?

Any other thoughts?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lghitis:
configuring a calling card with Idialer

I have a calling card in which I have to dial a phone number to access the service, then I have to type "*0" after a short announcement. then i dial the pin code. Then a recording comes on telling me how many minutes I have. Here I dial the international number.

I have not been able to configure the Idialer for this.

Anybody can help?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
That's the obvious solution. Once I get around to supporting in-call features, that will be the first one to come.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I plan to update iContact to match what I've done with iDialer, in the next version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You should just be able to use this for the prefix:

[phone number]ppp*0ppp[pin]p

(increase the number of "p"'s for a longer delay)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bugsy714:
Hey Doug,

What do you make of this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khaytsus:
I got that several times yesterday myself as well, I didn't get a chance as I just needed to get some calls out so I switched to using my cell to call out but you might want to check the google mobile pages, maybe you got logged out or something?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
I've been trying to debug the more generic "unexpected results" setting. I expected a URL after the colon. The fact that there is not one is very strange. Please try to install this debug version and see if you can see what page you're at when it gets that error:

http://supware.net/iDialer/iDialer-debug.cab
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bugsy714:
I'm a noob at google's stuff...

Will try loading the debugger.

How can I access the google login page that the dialer prompted me to enter my password & google id when first installed?

I was tired so I may have messed that step up lol
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
You can go to google.com/voice in pocket IE on your phone
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsfr:
Hello supbro,

I don't know if you decided not to add this to your site or if you forgot about it. If you decided not to add it, then that is fine. I just wanted to remind you in case you forgot because I think this will be useful to other people. Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Chris Hozian
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] deckhardt:
HTC Touch Pro2

Will iDialer work with the HTC touch Pro2 with the 800x480 screen?

Thanks,

Dave
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rojaa:
A handy suggestion

iDialer is a great program,especially when used with Supro's Green Button and iContact. Here's something I tried on my phone with success.

When you switch from iContact to iDialer there is (on my phone anyway) a brief appearance of the Today screen as iContact shuts down and iDialer loads.

To shorten this waiting period you can use VicSoft's UPX4PPC program to compress iDialer.exe down to 42.5 K. (sorry, don't remember the original size).

Anyway, the smaller file size means a faster load and transition between iContact and iDialer. How much difference it makes will likely depend on phone brand, model, and whatever programs you have running in the backgound. It also saves some memory, obvouly, for those who have iDialer in internal memory.

Hope this is useful for someone.

P.S. I have never tried compressing iContact. It loads so fast I've never seen the point in trying to compress it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rojaa:
oops!

Forgot to mention that the compression software is available free at http://mobile-sg.com/software/?platform=ppc
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Xartist1:
iContact

Hello, can anyone help me? I just download iContact, iDialer and the Greenbutton. Everything else work except my contacts don't show up on iContact at all? Do I have to add them to iContact manually or is there a way to import them from poutlook? Any help will be appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Xartist1:
Nevermind.

Nevermind, it's working now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Thanks for the reminder, I added it to my help page:

http://supware.net/iDialer/help/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Yes, it will work on all of the standard screen sizes: 240x240, 240x320, 320x320, 320x400, 480x640, 480x800
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aiiro:
OK, this is a weird problem I have with iDialer and I don't even know should I write about it here or in iContact AE thread (I'll probably post there too), cos in a way Your iContact and AE version are competing products :)

Anyway, the weird problem is, when I use iContact AE with iDialer and configure iDialer to be opened when the dialer button is pressed, it opens iDialer but the SIP icon is visible (not the whole softkey bar, just the SIP icon). That does not happen if I start iDialer separately / in stand-alone mode. The behaviour only occurs if iDialer is configured to display system taskbar, e.g. if it's in fullscreen mode, everything is OK.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aiiro:
thx1200 already replied for his app here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4343294#post4343294

Just thought You'd like to know.

BTW, are there any command line arguments for iDialer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] supbro:
Thanks, I'll take care of that in the next version of iDialer.

Yes, there are command line options:

Run this command to directly dial a number. Name is optional but used as the argument passed to tapiRequestMakeCall . But the name argument doesn't seem to work very well on my phone.

\Program Files\iDialer\iDialer.exe 8005552222 -name=Fred Smith

Run this command to choose a contact and then dial:

\Program Files\iDialer\iDialer.exe -choosecontact
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aiiro:
OK, glad to hear that, thanks! :)

And also thank You for the command line tips!

GL.