yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
is this still a beta? i know micrsoft have finished 6.5 and its being distributed to manufacturers now. not sure when we'll see it here but the first phones with it as the stock rom are due in september
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] koikaze:
Setup?

I have to concur with +Que here, would it be possible to slap together something like Bepe's old style kitchen? I posted on the main forum about this not too long ago not remembering the name, but wanting to know if there was a more visual method of putting this together. Even if I look at all the directories and files, I'm at a complete loss here for what to do with what. I'm fairly sure that the kitchen doesn't have some of the things that some of the great ROMS here have and would really like a more complete experience when attemtping to brick my retardedly expensive (and now outdated) phone. Is there any way to put something like that together? A checkbox type editor with the ability to update the options depending on what is in the file structure or possibly even grab files from XDA DEV server somehow (or mirrors of course). Just my two cents, great job either way on everything.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
There is a way to make it more "VISUAL"

As you can see in the kitchen tools folder are some exe's platform rebuilder and some others... that are the visual... but they use some type of... automatic structure, what does I mean... reading at darkforcesteam.com that kitchen use a file called "_only_premium" "_only_basic_" or LITE or FULL whatever you want to say your rom will be... so that kitchen has a file (cant remember wich file) that allows you to choose wich files you wanted...

Example: i want to make a full rom in WWE (so much utilities and apps and english lang) so I need to put my OEMS in that folder, but making 2 directories, a folder that shows the LANG of the OEM and other that has the usual OEMS that you will use in that specific rom in every OEM you need to place an empty file without extention called "_ONLY_FULL" and copy it to all the OEMS...

BTW the oems will never work as is... you need to transform that OEM Packages into a new OEM type called EXT Packages with the tool in toolset folder... then use the platform rebuilder an check or uncheck the most used caus ethe new build rom only shows you that EXT Packages that has "_only_full" interesting huh?

I think this is simpler! :p

have fun on cooking if you wanna know some more about this way of coocking just go there.

I Have a question... if i set all the oems rom and sys in thier places and run the build os i never see the new-os.nb cause automatically it runs the htc rom tool to convert .nb into .nbh... so if i want to change the date of the rom editting hex the os.nb... wich tool does i need to use...? i know build rom bat does this trick automated wich one make it step by step?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
any reason why 21234 wouldn't see the SDHC card? every time i build it winmo says there's no card
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
ive found this too. not sure whats causing it. hope this can be fixed as im liking the ram useage. ive not removed anything yet just dded my oems and ext packages and im getting alot of ram considering im using home 2. normally have to fight to get 13mb but this one ive got 15 mb on first boot without running hibernate. plus the speed and smoothness is an improvement.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ice8lue:
Problem with my kitchen

Hi, I just got a short question regarding my Hermes kitchen:

I just downloaded Josh's 21234_RTM SYS and XIP and put them into his 21222 kitchen (deleted the old files before). Then I deleted all the language folders and put the german ones into. When I start the kitchen now, first everything works fine, but then I get an Visual C++ Runtime error telling me that platformrebuilder.exe crashed and the kitchen window says errorlevel: 3.

Do you know this error?

What can I do?

Thank for your help =0)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MystaMagoo:
Some of the links in post 2 are 403 forbidden :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
:confused:I see everything mentioned in last few days on Post 3 except the "wm 6.5 dev toolkit." DL'ed from M$
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
Edited: OK! I get it now... (Embarassed) The included Build was 21234 RTM which I "now" see is - that I just spun my wheels on something I already downloaded here... Thanx Josh!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
anyone worked out what the sd card problem is with 21234 RTM yet? ive got a kick ass home edition once this is fixed
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
?? i've had no issues with sd card dude.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
are you using a regular sd card or a sdhc card? 21234 doesn't see my 8gb sdhc card, but every other 6.5 build has using the same oem drivers
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
i use a 4gig sdhc card maybe if we can find out what files need to be edited maybe we can simply replace them with the same files from a working one to solve it.

Josh maybe you can point us in the right direction for this
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
the SDHC patch i found was sdbus.dll and sdmemory.dll in the OEM\COMMON\OEMDrivers folder. the same OEM folder that i've used for 21222, 21728

and looking in the SYS and XIP folders from 21234 i don't see anything for the sdcard being overwritten
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
the card i use is SDHC i think its a 4gig and works fine.. could be xip related.. can you try different xip msxip?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Even with non HC!

I had 1 gb microsd non HC obviously and it dont works... on 21234 but Irfanzev or somethink like that makes it works! how? :p is that a new release or just a fake build? 21806...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
i'm using the one you uploaded with the 21234 rtm

the 21222 and 21728 both work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
lemme see if i can port 21806 for you guys today :)

Hermes will never be forgotten!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MrDSL:
awesome man thanks :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
i believe its sys related as ive tried the xip from 21728 and it had no effect. with the sys from the same build it worked fine again. im now playing around with that sys and the 21234 xip but want to use 21234 as the 21728 sys doesnt like exiting the start menu or programes when the today screen is empty which is no good for my home edition as i havent worked out how i could get it to be activated as the default today screen
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
am i right in thinking this build is a htc rebuild and not microsoft release?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
correct! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
i assume its still a beta too
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
hmm josh.. wonder if posting here is correct..

i've tried create a new rom.. but im stuck at a point..

im using the hypercore kitchen..

i've done the extracting part.. i can see alot of zip folders in the extract folder..

den i should be running PKG Tool manually rite.. but when i loaded the dump folder.. and chose build packages.. the thing didnt run.. it doesnt have any respond thou..

is there anything wrong? i've just loaded an NBH file tats all.

did i miss out anything?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
hmmm yea, but it's all good :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
erm.. josh u there??

notice my post 438?

pardon me.. need some help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
cool ill be having fun with that. hopefuly my sdhc card shows up with this one. it was definately somthing to do with the sys but im not sure what. maybe some kind of compatablity bug with that build and cirtain makes of card. tried everything but it just wouldnt work. oh well
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
21806 added to first page for you chefs ;) i haven't tested it but should be ported perfectly for ya guys
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MrDSL:
I would think you would need to ask in a hypercore kitchen thread since thats a completely different kitchen then the one Josh has available.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MrDSL:
Cool u rule dude :D

too bad im at work and can't play with it right now :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
sweet downloading now. ill give it a whirl tonight after work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
im confused.. about the kitchens and folders.. which one is the working kitchen eh?

i thought everyone works with hypercore. quite a newbie..

so.. what should i do now? which would be the kitchen u guys are using?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
sorry dude, totally understand being a noob. :)

download my 21222 kitchen and then u can pick from the newer blue sys and xip packages and replace those in the kitchen and hit the .bat button and cook
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
i'm sorry bro, i'm not very familier with the hypercore kitchen.. u can download mine on the 3 and 4 post if you want here, or i think there is a readme in the hypercore.. i'm sorry i'm not familier with it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
yeah.. it guided me thru.. but im still stuck.. i'll be using ur kitchen.

thanks!

a question here.. is there a wm6.1 kitchen?? only 6.5 can be used?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wyeyip:
another.. pretty noob question..

is there any guide for cooking? or.. a quick guide for it.. the steps well.. sorry again..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
its simple . once downloaded you will have the following files in the kitchen folder

EXT (just the same as OEMs but in a different format)

Temp (where files will go while building your rom)

ROM ( this is your os. it contains your XIP, romhdr and payload file)

OEM (where all your program packages go

SYS (the basic drivers programs and features contained in the base rom)

Release (where the finished rom goes)

Tools (all the tools youll the kitchen need to run and some other handy tools)

Toolset (More handy tools)

Builld_rom.bat

All you need to do is go through the EXT and add\remove anything you want

Edit your sys to what you want (eg welcomehead.96, today backgrounds removing programs and features you dont want)

Add your oems

Run the build_rom.bat and your finished rom will be in the release folder with the ruu to flash it

Hope this helps you ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
choosing default today apps

Does anyone know how i could get a diferent today app to show as default from the first boot. i know it can be done but havent got a clue how. it would be handy for my next home edtion release
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
i haven't played with it at all, but the rgu in sys\common\base_lang_0409\ has values for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\

also if you look in SYS\COMMON\CHome_Lang_0409\ you have the today items settings for titanium which adds the dword "Exclusive"=dword:1

so i'm betting that all you would need to do is set up the today item for pointui with the exclusive tag so nothing else tries to show up. what does the registry look like when you have pointui running as the only item?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
21807 is much smoother than 21728 even the first boot was much faster

Josh - what did you hex to change the version number, and what did you hex for the 'by josh' on the boot screen?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
hex

hex editing the new.os.nb but when i try to search the FIRST "2007" dont shows anything to change as a HEX value but if you set to search for normal values you will get many many dates in the hex editing what of those we must to change? and before do it (if we can) how can we transform the new.os.nb into nbh? where is the HTC convert tool?

For the version i try to change the file is mentioned on the first post and change but just the ABOUT setting... not the release that appears on splash screen and on the RUU... :eek:

Josh i have a question for you, maybe the one who try to erase by josh for the xip wanna heard it too.

Even if we try to ask how to remove the name of A_C from S2U2 app does him gonna tell us?

hahaha I mean, Josh can you xplain us how to XIP SYS port to hermes please? :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
by josh on first splash screen can be found in nk.exe :)

and it is 21806 i just changed to 7 to be different
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
how did you get access to nk.exe? can't copy it from the phone and i get an error if i try to turn it back to a file with ervius kitchen
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
in nk.exe in your kitchen, hex edit the S00 module and search, "josh"

then change it how you like it :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
yeah, i tried it with XVI32 and it didn't find it. tried another editor and it decoded it fine.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] I[E:
One last question for now

What file do I need to edit to change the 'About' screen?

I changed it to say 'An FCN Rom' but now I can't figure out where I did it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshkoss:
in the oem, u'll find a shellres.dll.0409.mui and hex that and search for fcn :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Had some questions...

Whoever may help me about this...

I wish to know which folders can be deleted on SYS\COMMON that cant make issues on the rom?

I will write some that i think can be delete... please say yes or not or if you know some other that can be erased please it will be so much help at the future. Thanks BTW im playing with 21807 ported by josh.

----------------------18/06/2009------------------------------
*Autoupdate (YES)
*Autoupdate_lang_0409 (YES)
-WMWidgets (YES)
-WMWidgets_Lang_0409 (YES) {ALL WIDGETS can be deleted}
*WinCENLS_WWE (Deleting this, the rom wont boot up) {NO} (Is device specific folder)
-SqlCeMobile(YES)
-SqlCeMobile_lang_0409
*SQLCE (Deleting this, the rom wont boot up)
-Skymarket (YES)
-Skymarket_lang_0409 (YES)
*Skybox (YES)
*Skybox_lang_0409 (YES)
-FWUPDATE (cant boot without this)
-Fwupdate_Lang_0409 (cant boot without this)
*RingsAndAlerts (YES)
THEMES (YES)
Transcriber(YES)
Voice command(YES)
Welcomecenter(YES)

Thanks in advance

BTW the welcomehead.96.png is in redist lang not in base lang.

Note: I had play with this too much yesterday... and the rom wont boot deleting all the folders listed so lets update it to this day... 15/06/2009

Note: In my home... After changing the Bronzeres.dll, set up the rom info in device like version and extrom, set the welcomehead, mod my extrom and adding the office and netcf 3.5, disabling some EXT the rom boots! nice see the code posted... Update to this day 16/05/2009

Note: Well... it seems that we cant delete de FWupdate and it's lang folders... dont boots without it, I erase the RingsAndAlerts too at the same time and dont boots. Change log at 18/06/2009

the symbols (* and -) before each line are just to say that both folders belongs to the next.

-----!!!!!!This list will change when confirming changes!!!!!------​
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] IrfanZevan:
Re:

I'm not an expert, but if i'm not wrong SQLCE needed by active sync. :)

For welcomehead.96.png it's ok in \Redist_dpi_96_resh_240_resv_320, as long it's copied to \Windows, it will be fine.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Wow it was fast!

Come on IrFan I use your roms! and are fantastic!

I will follow your thougts and dont delete that folder...

Thanks man!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
after playing around editiong images

wont bootup... stucks on welcome... aaaaaah :(

I think edit some images causes the stuck i will delete just the folders above without editing images and lets see what happend... keep on touch about this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
***Microsoft's "Cloud Services" added a few "services" names to WM-Internet hooks- the first 3 being SkyMarket, SkyBox and SkyLine. These services also add functionality to non-winmo phones...

- SkyMarket Microsoft is a Non-Apple Apps Store (Download Interface) includedin 6.5 but targeted for full release in WM7. It is MS's answer to Apple's I-Phone App's Store...

- SkyBox is a mobile-to-online PIM backup service, with automatic restore...

- SkyLine is similar to SkyBox, but small business oriented and includes Exchange Services

Unless you're subscribed to these services, these are then extra's.

************** End MS Cloud Services ******************

- WMwidgets can be deleted if not using widgets... in fact I think there is still an open issue where this file (and others) cause the "currupted ringtone" issue in 6.5. I think I remember something written by Josh on deleting these somewhere...

- WinCENLS_WWE can be in either the XIP or SYS... You're right, it only needs to be in one place... Noting that sometimes in some devices if "not" in in the XIP you may get a non-booting ROM, then you "need" to add it back to the XIP. But for it to exist outside the XIP, be sure to include these changes in the Boot phase of the Boot.RGU

- SQLCE is the server for the PIM Data base

- SqlCE Mobile + MUI is an SQLCe server for windows mobile

- AutoUpdate.dll... Software apps use this to check for a "current version" string...

- AutoUpdate.exe and AutoUpdate_lang_0409 can be deleted.

- FWUpdate is Firmware Update Services which can be provided by a "provider"... can be deleted for now, but may be functionally desirable later on down the road.

If you want to know what else you can delete or disable and what it effects, here's just one thing (of many) to read that might help: MSN TechNet Notes
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Wow many thanks dude! this will be great!

That source is great!

Well I think i will edit the list code in a few minutes
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MAFoElffen:
More on why "FWUpdate" may be desirable later down the road:

- On XDA by Da_G

- On MS Technet

Too much info? ROM Flashes without losing user data or settings, partial patches, etc. Possibilities exist... but not there yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
FCW i took your recomendations! works fine!

See the code, change like yours... next step erasing FWupdate with lang folder too. wish me luck! ;)

I see some things that i dislike about my test i dont have the famous welcome.lnk i mean the device at startup didnt shows the configuration stylus and Time, password bla bla bla...

Another thing is the usbtopc popup dont works does anybody has the oem? or ext? or the newer USBtoPC?

One more... I set this lines in initflashfile:

Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Office Mobile"):-File("Acrobat Reader.lnk","\Windows\AdobePDF.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Office Mobile"):-File("Power Point 2007.lnk","\Windows\ppt.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Office Mobile"):-File("Microsoft Word 2007.lnk","\Windows\pword.lnk")
Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Office Mobile"):-File("Microsoft Excel 2007.lnk","\Windows\pxl.lnk")

Cause the oem packages makes the directory but non item in it! so I think... i should place the icons in that folder by initflashfile but i have TWO FOLDERS!! :eek: One was renamed as ""Office Mobile (1)"" :confused: and the folder is empty... the second folder has the RIGHT NAME as "Office Mobile" (without the parenthesis and the number 1 ) and has the items listed above perfectly... oups forgot the notepad jejeje must to fix...

Anyone knows where am I wrong?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] abid885:
Joshkoss, error message as per below as I tried to download Sys, OEM, and XIP.

"Error 403 - Forbidden

You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges."

thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Wich sys or xip?

if it is from cap fiero server... is down! try other...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
Experimenting Memory loss

Hi again...

Does anybody knows why when the OS boots after a soft reset or HR... the program memory is near 20 MB but after opening apps... it decrease to 15 mb or less then if i close everything it cant reach to 20mbs again? xtrange? i dont know whats happen... anybody?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
i believe its a bug with 6.5. after all they are beta versions we use. thats why i now include oxios hibernate in all my home and titanium editions
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] boog:
I just found an odd issue with my kitchen, if I have the wireless on and let the phone go to sleep, it will either not come back on, or let it set and the phone will get quite warm (hot) and drain the battery.

Has anyone experienced this? I don't use the wireless much, but was using it while on vacation and found the bug.

My kitchen is based on josh's saphire kitchen 20931.

could it be as simple as replacing the wwan? or are there other drivers?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
I dont think so

i didnt use 6.1 but maybe if you replace wwan.. could make issues from other build like 6.5 sys
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] FCW:
what about SQLCE mobile? what exactly are uses and can it be removed and if a rom without it boots what kind of effects would it not being there have on other programs?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] + Que PPC:
many chefs says

Its not recomendable to erase it...

none of this three folders

SQLCEmobile_lang_XXXX

SQLCEmobile

SQLCE

I dont know why and nobodys knows it.

I LEFT THE HEX EDITING!!!!

I cant find anything to change GOD Damn! hahahaha

Sorry im a little angry

i cant find the "By Josh" in shelres mui in medkit folde oem

i cant find the date for the rom in Os.nk in temp folder

I cant find the boot rom version in S000 file from nk.exe folder from oemxip kernel in xip...

What am i doing wrong?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] micronyaol:
SQLCe mobile is used in some apps like database software. I know only one app to use it - WorldInfo. It is not used in PIM or messaging.

Dear chefs, I'm desperately in need of your help. I just cooked 21806 and I can't copy or move any file to/from internal memory. Please help me! There many roms using this build and none have this problem...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nurkamol:
haha, this is very sample :)

do you have Joshs old kitchen?

and there have MyBuildOs.exe & enter.

1. Click to Load ROM.

2. After Succy loaded - you can change date & name in boot screen.

3. After this click to update.

4. after clicking this sets will be saved to nk.exe.

5. & find nk.exe in kitchen.

6 last. copy this file to your new kitchen.

Good luck! :)

Sorry 4 my Bad English.

Thanx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gregorysl:
Could You share MyBuildOs.exe ? :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nurkamol:
i currently time i have not PC sorry :(

Just use Search at forum.

this is tool created by (author) Ervius.

good luck ! :)