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[Shift General] bluesbrothers93:
Shift MicroDimm caracteristic

List of Micro-DIMM features

• 214-Pin PC-5300,PC2-4200 and PC2-3200 DDR2

SDRAM memory modules for use as main memory when

installed in systems such as mobile personal computers.

• 128M × 64 module organisation and 64M ×16 chip

organisation

• JEDEC standard Double-Data-Rate-Two Synchronous

DRAMs (DDR2 SDRAM) with a single + 1.8 V (± 0.1 V)

power supply

• 1 GB modules built with 1 Gb DDR2 SDRMs in chipsize

packages PG-TFBGA-84.

• Programmable CAS Latencies (3, 4 and 5), Burst Length

(8 & 4)

• Burst Refresh, Distributed Refresh and Self Refresh

• All inputs and outputs SSTL_18 compatible

• OCD (Off-Chip Driver Impedance Adjustment) and ODT

(On-Die Termination)

• Serial Presence Detect with E2PROM

• Micro-DIMM Dimensions (nominal): 30 mm high, 54.0 mm

wide

• Based on JEDEC standard reference layouts Raw Card

“A”

• RoHS compliant product1)
[Shift General] deadnex:
Fujitsu Siemens FPCEM394AP

Does anyone know if FPCEM394AP from Fujitsu Siemens will be compatible with the Shift? I tried to email Fujitsu support to get a datasheet with more information, but after two weeks they still havent replied.

EDIT: I didn't notice that this memory module has been discussed previously in this post ;)
[Shift General] deadnex:
http://www.pcoxford.com/pdf/P1610_RAM.pdf
[Shift General] kakemann:
Deadnex!

Still havent recieved a reply from Fujitsu?

If it fits, I'd like to try it out
[Shift General] deadnex:
Unfortunately it is incompatible with the Shift.

Sorry
[Shift General] kakemann:
It seems like some other suppliers also has 1 gig, with 214pins connector.

But unfortunately it seems like no one has made a 2 gb which fits.

Found these 2 types, but they are still 1GB:

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/mi1gbpc214pi.html

http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2...for-notebook-computers-released-by-transcend/

I guess we just have to wait for some of them to release a 2GIG
[Shift General] StefanoR:
Hello,

as almost everyone in this forum, I'm eagerly waiting for a 2GB memory module to install in my Shift. I'm sure that a 2GB memory module would make Vista really fly and take a lot of the disk-swapping out of it.

I just emailed a good friend who works for a memory company, asking if/when they will be selling a 2GB part, based on the specs that were published above.

Let's see what he says, and I'll update then.
[Shift General] keithpupu:
http://www.umpcfans.com/viewthread.php?tid=1015

http://www.nengchai.com/nengchai_com/article.asp?articleid=34

see,picz of u1010, same? seems memory of u1010 is on-board
[Shift General] deadnex:
I have also read that the u1010 is using RAM that is soldered to the MB. However, the shift is using 214-pin Micro-DIMM RAM which CAN be upgraded if memory manufactors would start shipping 2GB modules ;)
[Shift General] bob_beringer:
2gb Memory Upgrade?

All,

Does it seem like this is a compatible memory upgrade for the shift?

http://www.memoryx.net/coq.html

2GB 214p PC2-5300 CL4 DDR2-667 MicroDIMM (p/n COQ)

Please let me know...

Thanks,

Bob
[Shift General] vinokirk:
I have asked the company for a picture to confirm. $300 though, yowza!

It needs to have the 'mezzanine' type connector, its also 667mhz not 533.
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
Sweet!

This is actually one of the companies I contacted. Maybe they went searching for a supply and came across some. I've been meaning to update my email blitz post with all the responses I received, but have had some trouble setting up my Shift and it's the only computer I have. . .I'll be the first in line to get this module, if it is compatible . . .
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
please keep us informed.
[Shift General] deadnex:
Any news on this?
[Shift General] StefanoR:
I also checked out the 2GB module posted, and it could be compatible. In the old days of assembling PCs one thing to learn quickly is that faster RAM works, but you're bound to have problems if you want/need to use slower RAM.

Perhaps if we team up and ask for a group discount? ;)
[Shift General] cadc82:
If it is 100% compatible I'm sure a lot of owners will backup your proposal:):):)
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
Just that I should mention . . .

that if you go to the memoryten.com home page (not getting there by clicking the above link), that you cannot navigate to the posted page. In other words, there is no 2GB 214pin microdimm to be found.
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
Here's the word . . .

I went ahead and called Memoryten.com to ask about the above. The sales rep got my info, and told me he'd call me back. He did promptly. Word is that they have a manufacturing facility in Southern California and that they will be supplying the 2GB 214-pin microDIMMs by the 3rd week of January. The sales rep did not say that the modules would be compatible, but he didn't say they wouldn't be.

Like I said, Memoryten was one of the first companies I contacted to find a 2GB module. Refer to thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4847401

Most all of them contacted me back, none of them with very encouraging news, but perhaps MemoryTen decided to capitalize on the suggestion. I'd post all the responses, but the emails are locked away in my old Leopard partition and I haven't successfully gotten Snow Leopard to install on this Shift yet (my only computer). I'll will call back in a few days to ask about the compatibility of MemoryTen's module.

Peace
[Shift General] vinokirk:
I emailed them for more info and they said the only info they have is on that site and they could not provide me with a picture.

We will have to wait for 3rd week in Jan then
[Shift General] bluesbrothers93:
Hello & Happy New Year

Let me tell you that if it will be compatible

i will be on list for upgrading the ram

i hoppe that price will be raisonable
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
I'll Do You All a Solid

I said that I will call MemoryTen.com again to find out more and that is what ai plan to do tomorrow. Even though I managed to kill my Shift, I loved it and thus forum that much, that I'll continue helping out. Besides maybe I'll get another one some day. As soon as the wife gets over my frying a $1200 dollar investment, but at least I hadn't purchase memory yet. ;)

I plan on asking them about a volume discount as well. So if there's a way to get a running talley of how many people are interested in buying and what their max price is, that would help. I'll feel them out first and ge back with you'll tomorrow.
[Shift General] DrJon:
We asked about this device and were sent a datasheet for a 2GB DDR2/533 172-pin Micro-DIMM made by Gigaram, so it doesn't look encouraging...

Does anyone have any other ideas as I could really do without having to design one?

Thanks

John
[Shift General] W0LF:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190368582854&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
[Shift General] potarex79:
Ebay RAM is 172 pin !!!!!

Hi!! About link of wolf I had ask to' ebayer if this memory is working whit shift (before this object was only for Fuji or siemens computer, after My question the ebayer put this inserction on ebay)

but now i'm not sure about the number of pin!!!

So Someone can say to us if the memory can work??

Thanks to' all for shift project!!!

Carlo
[Shift General] DrJon:
Re: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190368582854&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

The picture is of a 172 pin Micro-DIMM (as used by Fujitsu), not a 214 pin one. It even says that in the description. I don't know much about different Shift versions, but the pics I saw of a disassembled Shift had a 214 pin part. See mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=566224

For more on 172 pin versions see, for example, store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/SelectAccessoryDetail.jsp?partNumber=FPCEM394AP&category=Memory%20Expansion&title=2%20GB%20DDR2%20Micro-DIMM%20533%20MHz

John
[Shift General] DrJon:
P.S. sorry for the iffy links, but as a new user I'm not allowed to put full urls in my posts, you might also need some w-s in front of the disassembly one. I hope no-one's unhappy about pseudo-links, but aren't spam!
[Shift General] caraconejo:
We know we can, as EVEREST ULTIMATE software indicates the maximum number of supported physical RAM, but the problem is no longer finding micro.ram of 2 gigs in one pill, but also find it with this connector, which also seems that this type does not exist.

That at least is part of Windows, now my doubt is, that the Party Windows Mobile / SnapVUE has 64 megs of RAM and my doubts are as you know is the maximum supported by hardware? would be nice to have 128 mb physical, and possibly one of those guides where is cutting the cake of 64 mb of ram the SHIFT? "Welded on plate? "In module?

Service Manual.pdf

Dismantling Guide de la Shift.pdf

Photo despiece de la Shift
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
I Just Got Off the Phone with a Rep from MemoryTen

So, there does appear to be a case of mistaken RAM identity going on at MemoryTen, 'cause if you go to the page linked in this thread previously (here), you'll see that the description no longer says 214-pin. Instead it says 172-pin. But the rep I just got off the phone with is going to look into the possibility of manufacturing them, if they can't find some.

He was interested in this site, probably to see what the projected sales would be like. I told him I could easily get 20 people to buy in instantly, but I think I was really undershooting. I am not a moderator, so I don't know how to tell how many people are in the XDA forums because of the Shift, but I think I've seen enough people in here wish for more RAM for the Shift to say at least 20 people.

I miss my Shift.
[Shift General] DrJon:
I had a longer look at this and currently I don't think you'll find any modules as:

(i) the only available memory parts that meet the spec are 0.1mm too big for the JEDEC Micro-DIMM spec (they'd go on fine, but I doubt any manufacturer would make a module that's out of spec).

(ii) the price of the memories is way up into prohibitive. (Honest, you'd fall over.)
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
<------Skeptical

Yeah, I'm skeptical RAM like the Shift's will ever be produced again.

P.S. I just needed to write one more post to be able to sell in the market. Silly rule.
[Shift General] Mixpower:
I'm in for the 2Gb RAM!

Hope they will make it.
[Shift General] cadc82:
A new hope!!

I just happened to see some memories on sale at ebay and managed to get in contact with the manufacturer (mem-store) and explain the need of more ram capacity for our devices, and that most, if not all owners, would definitely be willing to pay a reasonable price for the correspondent memory upgrade.

This is what he answered:

We are working on this project.

I will send you an email when we have it ready.

Thank you.

- mem-store

You can contact him by following this link
[Shift General] caraconejo:
¿...?

HTC SHIFT X9500 2GB DDR2 Micro Dimm (MicroDIMM) Memory

¿HTC SHIFT X9500 2GB DDR2 Micro Dimm (MicroDIMM) Memory?

:confused:
[Shift General] blackbeans:
That's scam!!!T

his is the Shift's ram form factor:

Links:

http://www.mwave.com.au/newAU/mwaveAU/productdetail.asp?SKU=37020140&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc

http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.asp?itemid=27123818&partno=U6464E40

There's still no luck for 2GB information! Coz' it's pricey! :mad:
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
Manufacturers Need Some Real Numbers

What we need to do is get some real numbers as far as just how many people would be able and willing to buy a RAM stick for the Shift. Once we have those numbers we need one person needs to be rep and contact all of the major manufacturers and work out a deal. I am willing to step up and do so, but need the forum's assistance. Please refer to this thread. I've been waiting for someone to respond to any of the questions, but in particular the one about how a petition or sorts could be started. I'll even go to the forums of other devices that use similar RAM (Fujitsu's u810?, I have a list somewhere) and asking them to sign up to. The point is, manufacturers can't make decisions like this without information. They need to see the benefit, which I'm pretty certain there would be.
[Shift General] feyisetan:
I am in

If you guys are able to get the RAM manufactured, I am willing to buy one. I have since parked my shift and not used it for months...because of the snail speed even on win 7.
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
we all would ;)

i'll mod mine ssd next month, when our bonus arrives :p

still use it every day

gonna try starcraft2 on it, just ffs :D as it's really scalable
[Shift General] bluesbrothers93:
2GB ok, 4GB it's better ?

If a manufactor make 2GB memory

can we imagine that a 4GB memory can be asked ?

the X9500 it is abble to manage a 4GB memory module ?
[Shift General] ESKO81:
Latest Response from Mem store

Im new here, but have been querying mem-store on eba for quite sometime on this project.

I asked if the project had been scrapped and this is my final response so far:

"Dear XXXXX,

Thanks for asking.

Do you know how many people need this memory? because it costs a few thousand dollars just redesign the chip.

The chip they have been working on did not work as they expected.

If you can get 20 people or more to be able to buy this memory, our engineers may put more afford and money to redesign it.

Thanks again.

- mem-store"

Looks like there is hope, so if you want it, lets get a list of potential buyers together. Maybe they can engineer 4GB??

Who knows.

Let me know if you want to be included on the list. I am willing to give them $1000 to get the project off of the ground.

Thanks!

Very Respectfully,

Luis P Escobar Jr.
[Shift General] sorlei:
4gb yes please :-)

Just post the list where vi can sign on to.

The must be more an 20-30 out there .

Thanks :-)
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
i'd like more memory also

just remember, the stealy chip isn't 64bit compatible so we wont be able to use the full 4gb, but hey, who's counting, 3,7gb - 64mb_vid-card still beats 1gb haha

i'm in when the final modules are priced at less than 200$
[Shift General] ESKO81:
I think wanting the chip at less than $200 USD is a bit of a stretch. For now we need to generate interest. Let's continue to spread the word to anyone you know with a shift willing to get in the guts of this thing and swap out the RAM, all present company included.

The development of the RAM can only be spearheaded with the good and honest intents to buy from the Shift community.

I hope more will commit.

Thanks.;)
[Shift General] cadc82:
I think virtually any HTC Shift user would be interested in getting their hands on a bigger RAM memory chip!

Why not start with setting up a poll within the community, and get a moderator to put a sticky to it, so that it will appear on the main window? We could also get other people from other forums involved and get the word spread across the web!!
[Shift General] ESKO81:
All these things are a thing of the past ladies and gentlemen!!!

I recieved the following email tonight! Keep an eye out on Ebay!

Dear XXXXXX,

We got the memory working for the HTC Shift. I will post it on eBay tomorrow and will send you the link to try.

Thanks,

- mem-store

The only thing is I have to see how much the memory is size wise and cost. Ill pay up to $300, just because of how AWESOME this is!

We will see. Just installed Windows 7 Ultimate on my shift so this extra gig or 3 depending on size of memory chip will be AWESOME!

Mem-Store is hands down the best for memory on Ebay and anywhere TO ME as a matter of fact.

Can't wait................salivating already!

:D
[Shift General] ESKO81:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-DDR2-Micro-...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead1e3599

The RAM is $189.00 and it is a 2GB midule. They say their tests comfirm it works!!

I am the Guinea Pig on this one. I'll report back with more information later.

Thanks.
[Shift General] steeq:
A-W-E-S-O-M-E!

let us know if it works, thank you so much!
[Shift General] ESKO81:
Ordered it, and I am just waiting. It will be about 3 weeks or so (maybe a little less) as I am in Afghanistan at the moment, but dont worry, I will report back as soon as I have tested the module and I expect if it does work that I can get at least 20 people to follow and buy it to. These folks worked hard to get us compatible memory and I said everything but promise them we would have that many buy it.

Thanks and hope to post good news soon:)
[Shift General] ESKO81:
Ok! Got the RAM installed it without a hitch! Guess what? ........................................................................................................................................................IT FREAKIN WORKS!! This thing is SCREAMIN Now! Booted up quickly and within Windows it is very quick as well.

Next I will contact Mem-Store to see of the possibility of a 4GB RAM module which I will pay $500 if they agree.

All those who want to upgrade to 2GB it is safe to go to ebay and buy from Mem-Store! I am so pleased with them. I bought 8GB RAM for my Alienware M11x as well, these guys are GREAT! So please I need 20 other buyers to by this module. I can post pictures here or somewhere else when I figure out how. I know how to post to web sites and things of that nature, but not here, not even sure if it is allowed.

Anyway. I will take PICS of the Screen and within Windows Properties showing the 2GB of RAM!!!

I am so pumped this little machine is AWESOME!
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
awesome awesome awesome awesome

give us pics@!
[Shift General] ESKO81:
How do I put the PICS on this forum? Is this allowed? Ill take them tomorrow and post for everyone, I just need to know how, without reading through 10K lines of text IE Search.
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
upload images somewhere

then link to them here, using the yellow button.:eek:
[Shift General] ESKO81:
REALLY? Is there no interest in this Module? I just inquiried about a 4GB chip and paying top dollar for it, we will see what they say, and if the motherboard even supports it.

We will see.

I thought with this breakthrough we would have generated more interest. Only 3 modules have been bought on ebay. Come on, where are the TRUE followers I thought I could get 20 on board. I offered Mem-Store $550 to try to create the 4GB Module, but have not recieved a response.

Here is a link to som pictures!

I take horrible pictures and I am not a pro photographer. As a matter of fact, all I own is a point and shoot, no DSLR, not my thing!

Enjoy!!

http://img375.imageshack.us/g/shift8.jpg/
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
i'm totally into it!

just waiting for pay from the boss :p
[Shift General] ESKO81:
4GB is not possible due to the limitations in the Chipset.
[Shift General] delimar79:
Please give me a link to ebay for the 2gb ram and your 128gb ssd if possible...this is what I've been waiting.Thank you very much!
[Shift General] ESKO81:
Well I can tell you what to look for as I did.

The link to the ebay auction for the 2GB RAM chip is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2GB-DDR2-Micro-...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ead1e3599

and for the SSD please just search for "HTC SSD" you should pull up a number of options, I chose the KingSpec SSD, and it works great so far.

I hope this helps and that your Shift becomes an AWESOME little power house, if I knew more and had more experience, I'd try to fit a whole new ATOM board on this thing, but that may be a little more risky!
[Shift General] ESKO81:
Really?

Last time I checked only 3 modules had been sold on Ebay. This thread is huge with people asking for the increase in memory. So what happened?

I am dissapointed. But I am new here, maybe that is just the way it is.

That company worked hard to make the RAM, hopefully more will buy.
[Shift General] steeq:
i'm going to buy one module next month. just one word: unbelievable.
[Shift General] bluesbrothers93:
comming

eaven if the 189 USD are a bit expensive compare to the 50 USD asked for 1GO memory module

i' will ordering 2 peaces of it

il wait for a friend USA local adress for free posting

compare to the 26 USD requested for Post it to Europe (and with risk of europeen added Zoll/douane/customs taxes !
[Shift General] wovens:
Many of the enthusiast that had the Shift earlier on and would be willing to pay that amount may have moved on to other hardware already which is a real pity!
[Shift General] cadc82:
Cool!

Well, I'm in too, just waiting for some money to come in and I'll be buying one for myself (and probably tell my brother to do the same, since he has another Shift!)
[Shift General] Qtek9000Jan:
I ordered a 2gb module yesterday

I am very eagerly waiting for the 2bg module to arrive from The States.

Today i received a mail from de seller regarding the taxes. (i live in The Netherlands)

Can't wait to see the improvement on my shift.

How many people have one already?

Installation simple like the 128gb ssd i installed a few months ago?

Best regards,

Qtek9000Jan

The Netherlands
[Shift General] PlayStation:
Please which specific ssd did you install and where did you buy it from. I would love to have 128 Gb ssd as well as 2 Gb ram. That would be the perfect dream combination for the shift..... I hate the annoying fan noise and heat coming from the shift hdd. I am sure other shift owners would appreciate your write-up with more info about the whre, how etc etc of how you did the ssd upgrade. Regards mate.
[Shift General] bluesbrothers93:
Ok, i ordered it using US adress of my friend.

wait and see
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
Be Aware, maybe BEWARE!

I just received my 2GB module yesterday. Installed it and I have been getting nothing but memory (Blue screen of death) errors. I put my old 1GB module in and everything works fine. Note: I have the X9501, but that shouldn't make a difference.

I am writing an email to the seller now to find out what they are going to do for me. I'll write back and let the community know what the response is.
[Shift General] bluesbrothers93:
Waitting for your feedback

if you have around you some one with an other Shift to test the memory module, just to see ?
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
No

I do not. I live in Alaska, not all that urban and/or tech saturated.
[Shift General] sebastiaanmeloen:
hehe

(am sorry but it's kinda funny__ esp. when you've seen some eps of men in trees (yeah chickflick))
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
Aw Geez

Okay, we're not that bad. Anchorage does have about 380,000 people, but Shift owner's probably make up .00005% of that population. Meaning, I'm one of two.
[Shift General] ESKO81:
Did you press it down firmly enough? I have had no problems with mine thus far.

I guess iff you re-installed the old module then there is a pretty good chance you know the pressure associated with this module.

I am very sorry to hear this happen, especially in wake of me getting everyone riled up about this.

I can honestly say, I tested mine and I have done nothing but use it over the time since I installed mine. It has owrked flawlessly with the exception of enabling Aero themes. This still doesn't work with the 2GB module, so that is unfortunate, and the only time I ever got a BSD.

I hope mem-store helps you out on this, maybe it was just a faulty module.

I wish you the best on getting a new one, installing it, and getting it rockn and rollin with 2GB

Cheers and all the Best!

:D
[Shift General] TopRowGuywithFeet:
My Situation

I contacted Mem-Store and they were very apologetic. They said they would offer a full refund or exchange and refund my shipping as well. So, as far as I'm concerned, they get an A+ for customer service. I am opting for an exchange. I hope the next one isn't plagued by the same issue(s).