yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
The buttons are complicated...to tell you the truth i hold down a bunch of random buttons on the keyboard...hahaha... but hold on... i'll try to map them right now...

Q = unlock

Q = menu (WHILE INSIDE PROGRAMS)

Shift = QUIT

Windows button = QUIT (one might be minimize, idk for sure)

hope that helps...make sure your getting the newest Android release... DZO has 1.0 on his website...http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
well i differ on this one, with you.... Of course sales of windows mobile won't go down... it is the only type os for phones that are available for sale.... ANDROID's first phone won't be out till october 22nd (i think thats the date)... And i'm sure as soon as people start seeing the capabilities of android, the switch over will begin.... If we talk about the lack of capabilities of an OS, i can start listing off many for WM... but why would i do that, why not just read the forums and see for yourself? :D

Android is running on devices before it's officially available... People left and right are writing code... and these are smart people... The development of android is world wide... and anyone can do anything to it... WM, you can not modify the actual os, and the one thing WM cannot compare with is.... Smoothness... it's disgusting, that us titan owners spent 400+ on a phone that lags and freezes like most window's machines do.... Android, is smooth beyond belief, and doesn't take 30+ seconds for a program to load...

that being said... I know android isn't ready to be widespread... but it is getting there, FAST. and WM is dying... The iphone took 1/2 of WM users... and i'm pretty sure Android will take the other 1/2. because it's affordable... we all know we would have an iphone if we could afford it... apple did a good job... but they messed up with the price... Android is our way of getting back...:D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] SyXbiT:
I couldn't agree more.

I hate people who overly bash everything except their ONE device of choice.

I dislike Apple's tactics, and dislike it being linked to iTunes (I use linux) but it is a fantastic device.

I'm hoping Android will be as good as an iPhone but without any restrictions.

As for WM, i'm using it cause I can't afford an iPhone, and because Android isn't out yet.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jambrose:
I think that the gPhone will push Microsoft to get windows mobile 7 to be better and faster and maybe out the door sooner so that it might (like that will happen) compete with the iPhone or gPhone.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
I'm down for competition... if WM 7 comes out... You can be sure i'll be the first to try it... See windows mobile was all we had... so apple came along and said... "We're going to make those phones better"... which they did... but they did do some stupid stuff too.. ((like at first selling the phone without a contract, and with no insurance... I mean seriously who would want a phone without insurance, especially a 500 dollar phone.) (then with the price of half a grand, wow)) then they just completely screwed up with they're crazy copyright laws and all the other stuff... So then GOOGLE came along and was like... WM sucks, Apple makes the Iphone suck, we'll make a Gphone, best of both worlds... and that's where we are at now...I'm not an apple fan, im not a windows fan, im not a google fan, im a.... WHAT EVER MAKES MY PHONE BETTER THEN YOUR PHONE FAN... :D

enough about that....

anyone who is interested... or can help me out a little... I got the full arm toolchain installed on my mac, with the full android.git, from both git.android.com and git.linuxtogo.com.... I can start compiling kernels and everything.... I have a titan... so if anyone out there wants to walk me through everything... I will be more then happy to donate my time... Which i have alot of...:D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Keystone:
...My points stand, Android is immature and is not yet ready for widespread development. What apps will you run? 'Smooth'? On what platform? Surely not yet on our Titans.

Many smart people developing the OS? Fine and dandy, but that spin does not equate to quick market adoption and widespread practicality. Android as an OS is now fun for the geekier of us to tinker with on on our

existing

handsets. Who's using it as their primary OS? As it's currently run within a shell under WM on our Titans and has numerous issues, I'll deduce that none of us are. Beyond our special market segment, Android devices are not to be chosen by the OS alone, but of also the hardware that it is bundled to. So we not only currently have a lacklustre OS and an limited choice of applications for it, but a single device release that is not winning many hardware design favours.

To state that Android is "gaining momentum" (with the release of a single device from nothing) and that WM is "dying" is purely simplistic if not dishonest spin. Hyperbole for arguement's sake is silly and may be deservedly trounced.

I'm all for competition and the ability to personal mix-up and choose what's best. Even better on WinMo devices where we have the potential flexibility not to be locked down to particular device, apps, and a single OS as is the dumbing-down-cult-of-Apple model. But people, let's be pragmatic about Android as it's still generally a beta-staged OS, and not get ahead of ourselves to play it up as the second-coming.

It may be -- but not yet. By when more Android handsets and applications are released, WM 7 may also be out with even newer handsets than the lauded Diamond range. There are alternatives now. Android's current state deserves a question mark rather than solid affirmation of a market and user success.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devir:
We'd all have an iPhone if it were available on more than just AT&T since the Titan, is almost the exact same price point minus ALOT of the iPhone features.

If Verizon had an iPhone i'd have bought it instead.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Enzo2387:
Minus what features? I think the iPhone is a terrific piece of hardware, but just doesn't have nearly as many features as the Titan.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
Well just for the record, when the first bootable version of android came out for our titans, I was able to spin a revolving globe, with almost no lag (and that is with the terrible amount of memory our titans have)... If we tried that in windows mobile, on our titans with 18 megs free (thanks to WM being a memory hog.) It would take almost one day to have the earth rotate (so i guess WM is pretty realistic :p) Ok maybe not a day, but it would take alot more time and the smoothness would be no where close to android's.

You say what applications would we run? Hmm... let me point it out this way... Even with a barebone WM os (which is what i run (THANK YOU NUEROM3)) It still takes windows "THINKING" time just to display the start, program, email, settings, pretty much ANYTHING.

As for Android which is considered "BETA" you can drag the application menu up with no lag, you can switch between three different displays on the homescreen NO LAG, you can pull down your recent alerts like Text messages and missed calls.... NO LAG.

And you want to defend WM which is already on it's 6.1 release???? That's pretty sad that a "BETA" OS can run noticeably faster then an OS that has been out for years. Not sad, let me rephrase "Pathetic". WM had market control, which they still do... And they dropped the ball.. Everyone knows that.. Even Apple has already released it's OS 2.0...and the iphone has only been around for a year or two... I don't like apple's way of business, but i will admit that there OS has the smoothness and beauty that many cellphone users NEED/WANT. Have you seen the Diamond lately? IT STILL LOADS CONTACTS.... Pathetic... Loading CONTACTS. It's a phone, it shouldn't have to load contacts. Now put the power of a DIAMOND, and run android on it... We all know, it would run seamlessly.... SEAMLESS = NEVER POSSIBLE ON A CURRENT WM BUILD.

If microsoft does the right thing, and pretty much rebuilds their OS from the ground up, then they will stand a chance. Plus the title of this thread is GOOGLE PHONE OS... so why come in here and start talking about how WM is better... when obviously WM is lacking the barebone, necessary features that a CELLULAR DEVICE needs. and by lacking I mean... (IF SOMEONE GIVES U THERE PHONE NUMBER, the conversation shouldn't go like "HOLD ON... WAIT A SEC... MY PHONE IS LOADING.") :D

I know you are a senior member and I give you respect for that... but coming into a thread that is named GOOGLE PHONE OS and bashing on it... not a very senior member thing to do...That's like me going into a MANILLA 2D THREAD AND TELLING THEM ABOUT THROTTLE LAUNCHER... WE ALL KNOW ABOUT Windows Mobile IT COMES ON OUR PHONES. We are glad you like it... But apparently we DON'T.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Keystone:
I'm sorry that you perceive my pragmatic comments upon this topic as "bashing" and thereby unwelcome. Your perception does not justify you inciting with a personalised slant. Other perspectives exists and the expression of conflicting views do not equate another to be a bad person.

.....I do wish people would learn to better discuss without overt partisanship (must be pro-one or the other) and resulting sore personal feelings if the issue they are partial to is not absolutely fauned over. :( This forum is usually above such a level.

All that you may infer from my posts is that I prefer WM on my Titan because it provides me with the selection of applications that I desire on the hardware that I prefer. Again, who here is using Android as their primary OS? Nice to tinker with, but now only test? Again, my points stand, and I doubt that many in this thread are in a different position.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
bashing

3rd sentence of your first post on this thread

hmmm... That's not bashing??? Your comments are not pragmatic perceptions to me.... There is no fact in any of them... Only a mere contemplation of inner regards towards Windows Mobile. Forgive my immaturity on this forum but i consider this bashing as well.

As you said it's in a BETA stage.... list to me exactly what WM provides you with.... And please do not mention, anything that other people have made. Because my point to you is....

WM consist of A start menu without listing programs. ONLY Recently launched. IE that can not watch youtube video's or pretty much be used for anything that has meaning in this world. It's huge memory footprint, kills any device running it. hmmm... the only good thing i can see in windows mobile is.... Solitaire. You see...I highly doubt you use WM. ACTUAL WINDOWS MOBILE... WITHOUT IE replacement programs, or replacement contact managers, I highly doubt you use a stock rom... I highly doubt you have no REG hacks... I would like to believe you use gps... BUT WITH WHAT PROGRAM? I highly doubt the program was made by microsoft... Everything you use, is from users contributing.... Either a program or a reg hack... Now think about using a STOCK WM ROM... and then tell me that WM is amazing... Cause within 3 hours your TITAN will have 12 megs of memory free... and with in 24 it will freeze up when trying to make a call...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Keystone:
Absolutely -- from a developmental standpoint. How many apps? OS device support? Market penetration?

Have a pleasant day taking people out of context to be unnecessarily argumentative. I'm through with this discussion. :cool:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] aaron580:
subject

This is getting way of subject. Lets just stay with the task at hand. The touchscreen works fine when you use it right but yes it is buggy. There are some definite improvements needed but with a bit of work it would be an awesome WM alternative.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
which features? My mogul does everything I've seen an iphone do and more. it just doesnt do it quite as quickly and with less eye candy.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] aguas:
the iPhone can be jailbroken onto t-mobile. my buddy did it.

also, the iphone is GSM; verizon, alltel, sprint, etc. are ALL CDMA. it is physically impossible (incompatibility) to have the iphone on Verizon. GSM and CDMA are completely separate technologies, and will never be compatible.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
I don't have anything against you keystone...i was just stating that the thread was called Google Phone OS... but thats beyond the point...

back to the status of Android.

Me and zdooder are messing around with the kaiser keypad file trying to get it working... With help from ali1234 and ginge... hopefully it shouldnt be too much longer.... Then us titan users will enjoy writing texts in android with our actual hardware keyboard... :)

you can always check the status by joining the HTC-linux chat channel on irc.freenode.net It would be nice to see some more people in there with titans... so if you have some free time... try and help us out...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] aaron580:
Since there is work on the keyboard, is the screen going to be able to shift like normal? Otherwise its going to be kinda pointless.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
I hope so...i guess we'll find out...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mobilemedic:
ok i have the android-new.zip dumpped to my sdcard and booting. I made a change to the default.txt to replace with phonenumber@alltel.net and a pass of alltel.

yes i am on alltel. so I am trying to get the data part to work.. is there somewhere I have to tell it to dial #777 to get online or whats the trick..

Thanks!

Brad
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ilovethisplace:
Just use the ordinary default.txt and make sure you set up a data connection before starting Android.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
exactly what the guy above me said... Make sure you have a data connection open with alltel (ex. go to internet explorer on your phone) before you start ANDROID...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jimnutt:
Android Open Source

Good news on this front, the Android source code has been released as an open source project. This should help those trying to get it to run on the titan (I may be one of those during the dark, cold winter days ahead).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] SyXbiT:
yea, but by the time they get it working, we'll have moved on.

the titan, with 64MB of RAM, is never going to be a great web device.

the touch pro, however, with 288MB of RAM might be a good device to buy now, as there's no Android for sprint.

I personally don't want to give up my SERO plan :) :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] hoothrewpoo:
Verizon, Alltel, Sprint, Cricket, Rogers, etc. are all CDMA. EV-DO refers to the data radio network.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Rogers AIN'T CDMA.

Limme break it down for you.

Canada: Bell, Telus(with secondaries Sasktel, MTS, and Aliant)

USA: Verizon, Sprint(2nd tier: Alltel, US Cellular), (Ghetto no-credit tier: Cricket, Metro PO/CS).

Mexico: Iusacell

THAT'S CDMA for you.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] aguas:
youre absolutely right. don't know what i was thinking there
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] madsuse:
Not booting

Do I need to open a data connection on Verizon before booting?

I am trying this for the first time and am not sure about the default.txt.

When I run haret I end up getting an ever scrolling screen which is stating

attempt to access beyond end of device

It does this for a long time before I just give up.

I downloaded and re unzipped today to reconfirm I had the latest code.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] joker1995vn:
Hi everyone,can someone help me with TCL TV model l40E5900.I need a newest version ROM for that old TV. It seem like my Firmware gone buggy with a lot of issue during use and I think it can solve out with an software flash. I don't have an download link tho, any help will be preciate :D
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] TCLold:
hi please let me know how can i update my TCL TV

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SOFTWARE VERSION V8-S68AT02-LF1V074
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] stasiof:
UPDATE TCL OLD ANDROID

Please help me to update my TCL. My tv android smart tv but it just have some useless apps in its app store. Only useful app is Youtube and Mirrorcast , I don't have Netflix prime or an other applications. Also when i try to update , it says Its...

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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] TCLold:
Thank you very much
[Magisk] altafharsh60:
Hi All,

CITI bank App is detecting root. No matter what I do, Magiskhide fails to hide CITI bank app. Tried all the basic troubleshooting.

1. Restored the Magisk app and unchecked CITI bank app from the list.(shield icon)

2. Rebooted and added CITI bank to list.

3. Changed magisk manager name(Hide the app)

4. Changed the Twrp folder name.

5. Cleared cache for CITI bank.

If anyone could possibly help, I'll be grateful.

Thanks in advance.
[Magisk] trgowtham:
Were you able to solve this? I am also facing the same issue. Please let me know.
[Magisk] altafharsh60:
I am using a web version now.

Citi Mobile

m.citibank.co.in

Works exactly same.

I know this is not a solution, but workaround until the app starts to work.
[Magisk] altafharsh60:
Hey ,

Its working for me again.

1. Installed magisk v 22.0.apk and Magisk 22. Zip.

2. Hiding manager app

3. Installed the latest citi bank app (Version 23.5.2) but didn't open

4. Added app to magisk hide list.

Its started working.
[Magisk] altafharsh60:
Please uninstall busybox.
[Magisk] gladson1976:
Awesome.. uninstalling busybox did the trick..

Citi app works perfectly now..

Now need to check if other apps are broken because of busybox.. :)
[Magisk] xn0live:
use airfrozen and then its working
[Magisk] charlessxavier:
i uninstalled busybox, still no luck.. Citibank still detects root

Any idea on how to solve this?
[Magisk] huuur:
After August app update, Citibank is stuck on blue screen WITHOUT any notification!

Obviously it detects magisk root, and all hiding procedures failed (magisk 23.0 / no busybox installed).

Applying airfrozen (on magisk manager) fix the issue while root stays active.

Ta (y)
[Magisk] ykkfive:
me too. just found this post, installed airfrozen and freezed magisk and now citibank works (busybox doesnt matter for me). however, one of the hsbc app still doesnt work even with busybox renamed and magisk freezed
[Magisk] wks960803:
you shall find an app that have the function of "App ops"

Then disable citibank from "get installed apps"

take a try I have worked in this way:)
[Magisk] dewa5227:
i can't seem to find Citibank on the Request install package from the App ops app.
[Magisk] nopice:
You just saved my life. Thank you very much! :D
[Magisk] Tiemichael:
Thanks - but easier said than done

Airfrozen cannot get root - using Poco F2 Pro, Android 11 stock, Magisk 23.0

Any idea how to overcome?

Thanks
[Magisk] dewa5227:
just open your magisk, and enable it from there...
[Magisk] dallivadr:
Same issue here on SM-N910G with crDroid custom ROM. I needed to have the "Hide the Magisk app" settting enabled in conjunction with Airfrozen. Just freezing the Magisk app wasn't enough. Note: this isn't the MagiskHide setting I'm referring to; that setting was enabled the whole time.

Steps that worked for me (Magisk 23.0) was:

1. In Magisk, add Citi to the hide list first (of course)

2. In Magisk, don't use "Hide the Magisk app". I.e. the app is listed as Magisk in the app drawer.

3. Then, install Airfrozen and grant root access (I wouldn't get the grant root access prompt unless #2 above was done)

4. Now, in Magisk, enable "Hide the Magisk app" and go through that process to rename to 'settings' or whatever.

5. Now, open up Airfrozen and select "settings" (or whatever name you used in 4). Freeze it.

6. Citi app now launches and loads the login screen

Hope that helps someone
[Magisk] Tiemichael:
Thanks! It definitely helped me!
[Magisk] locolyric:
i didn't see any permission nameas "get installed apps" in app ops.
[Magisk] locolyric:
hmm...not working for me. using MIUI here , i already disallow citibank to read my app list, and perform steps above. still detect my phone as rooted.
[Magisk] altafharsh60:
Try downgrading magisk to v22 and uninstalling busybox. I'm using it.

See images.
[Magisk] locolyric:
wow....magisk 22.1 did the magic!

not sure will it work when i update my os to android 11 or not.

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it seems not working well as 10 on android 11.
[Magisk] locolyric:
i can easily get citibank app work again by uninstall magisk .

but now come some issue, some app detect my phone is rooted.(no root at all that moment)

any steps to solve that without format everything ?
[Magisk] adzinator:
can confirm works for me with magisk 23 and airfrozen on android 10
[Magisk] SamantaSync:
I use a different bank apps that detects root even with magisk hide, so I try this and it works, the bank app didnt detect root anymore
[Magisk] dewa5227:
Been there done that. Citibank app detects it. Including the storage isolation trick.

The only thing to access it is only by :

1. Downgrade to 22.1 (not recommend)

2. Use airfrozen

3. Uninstall magisk ?
[Magisk] SamantaSync:
after using the trick, did you try to clear app data and enable only the main process on magisk hide? (isolated process disbled)

EDIT: and try to use the hide the magisk app in the setting ( it change the name of the app so the bank app cant find magisk app on the phone)

EDIT2: oh yeah btw, which citi bank app did you use? maybe I can try it myself so I can be a bit of help :D
[Magisk] dewa5227:
been there done all of them, hahaha

it's the Citi Mobile Indonesia.
[Magisk] Diagrax:
Latest versions of Magisk couldn't work with Citibank app, it will just stucked at the Citibank logo. If any one can bypass it, it would be great.

I've uploaded the apk just in case if it's restricted to region on playstore.

Citi Mobile Indonesia: https://www.mirrored.to/files/OY8WZRW7/

Citi Mobile Singapore: https://www.mirrored.to/files/1AAEFR0P/
[Magisk] dallivadr:
Hi Diagrax,

I'm on Android 11, using Magisk 23.0 (23000)(21) with Airfrozen and can run "Citi mobile Indonesia" using the method I explained previously in this thread. Just checking you've tried that?
[Magisk] Diagrax:
Thanks. Yup, I tried but couldnt get it to work still. I might be on the canary (Magisk) version.. not sure it could be the another reason too.
[Magisk] thobi3:
you're the best. i've been looking for solutions for a while and it took me a bit to understand what you meant but downloading the app and freezing magisk rellay did the trick with the banking apps. thank you so much!
[Magisk] dewa5227:
Just to make a note in here, that using sudohide is better after all, didn't need to frozen or anything :)
[Magisk] dedaol:
This also works for MyRaiffeisen banking app as of 2021-Oct-20. Use airfrozen to freeze the Magisk Manager app, and then MyRaiffeisen works. I use Magisk 23.0 on Android 11.
[Magisk] V0latyle:
I have been using the Universal SafetyNet Fix module to great success with Magisk on Android 12. All my banking apps work - 2 banks, PayPal, Chase, Venmo, etc...and so do all the DRM apps.
[Magisk] ChocoboX:
Just wanted to report that I got Citi Bank app to work. Magisk 23 stable on Pixel 4 XL Android 11. I disabled Magisk modules. Renamed Magisk to something else (not settings). Disabled face unlock authentication for root. Used Magisk hide for all Citi Bank app connections. Deleted Citi app (cache and data). Opened it again and it just worked. Hope this helps someone.
[Magisk] altafharsh60:
Finally. All apps are working again. Using zygisk feature of MAgisk. It's really great at hiding root for all apps. With no additional apps like airfrozen or any module required.
[Magisk] Patchlk84:
Updated to Android 12 and v24 zygisk feature. deleted app and it's data/cache and still only achieving blue screen. Using Samsung s21 ultra. Any suggestions? Or is it working for others?
[Magisk] LuisCarlosHK:
HSBC app still detected root
[Magisk] ricky56789:
You are a legend. Thanks!
[Magisk] heij20032003:
Thanks all....I am now fine with my local banking app.

Just a question......will AirFrozen affect the normal functioning of Magisk / Root?

How does AirFrozen actually work?