[Black Shark 4] wertus33333:
poco with pe (which includes gapps)--> nothing about privacy here xD

well, op releases the aosp (without oxygenos additions tho) source code. as far as i know only google and oneplus do this.

android is open source, we dont need stock rom source. we need kernel source (google what the linux kernel is, you will understand why...) so the community can fix what the oem does not/ can't / we can build custom roms based on the open android code.

i also used an oneplus2 (los/cm13 with recent patches) until last fall. if the screen didn't cut my fingers bcs it totally broke, i would still use it (batterylife with the right adjustments was insane). all my more recent xiaomi phones (mi a2 lite, redmi note 5 ai, mi 4c) died long time ago. did you debug it over adb? like that you can know what exactly the problem is, fix it in source and use the fixed version (or go to a custom rom with same android version as last official one, porting to more recent android without recent vendor blobs can cause many problems)

No, you can use a phone for 10+ years with the newest features EASY if you have kernel source. OFC oem's dont want this xD but the phones are not really increasing a lot lately (especially regarding cpu's) the storage and gpu gets better (adreno 650 was a milestone) but thats it (from the performance sight). you are only forced to change if the oem is a piece of garbage, violating the law and not releasing the kernel source. Blackshark is such a company, stop supporting them please.

If you take gaming seriously, you would see that more than 120hz refresh rate are useless (which games even support it?) and a 835 phone can still play ANYTHING on highest settings on 120hz and 1080p. 4k would be different. also a serious gamer (who knows that optimized software is WAY more important than a little bit increased hardware) would care about software updates/improved android kernel and the most important thing (how to get more power from your phone?) overclocking/changing thermal limits. optimize a 865 op phone and compare (gaming, not synthetic benchmarks) it to bs4, bs4 will be on par against sth that is not even a gaming phone and has an older soc. Ofc if you COULD do this on bs4, it would go like a rocket (only recognizeable in heavy emulation/benchmarks tho).

well, if there are any problems with the ROG5, just send it to asus, they will fix it if it's within the warranty (and asus is big, you can trust that). Trying to claim warranty at black shark will probably end in jason telling you that all is good and as soon as you sent the phone back he wont reply anymore xD.

the custom subsection is not there bcs

a) xda needs time to build it (no new phone has subsections...)

b) no kernel source--> no custom development.

Seriously, if you need "the best" phone as a statussymbol, go for an iphone. if you want cheap gaming on top notch, go for a soc with a good gpu (waiting for nvidia socs to appear in smartphones again) of the last 3 years and open kernel source. every android game will run with top performance.

For mining bitcoins/emulating 3ds/switch/ps3 the performance per current of the bs4 seems pretty nice. but then again, the kernel source...

really sad to put so much into a phone but leaving the user unable to fully use it.

and yeah, as soon as you root the phone, you can probably smoke the official updates from blackshark...