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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hivesnl:
Crazy of QuickGPS

Ok, this morning i was finalizing my installation.

I wanted to intregate the S2U2 with a background.

When i commited that my total QuickGPS is not allowing me to update anymore This occurs a lot without any good explanations because S2U2 doesn't have anything to do with it. Now I can start the whole installation again!

Only a hard reset fixes this problem, i have called HTC to complain because i'm getting psycho of it

Please let me know if somebody has the same with updating after a while that it fails over and over again. i'm complaining there after a long run. Now it just started again.

I've tried to delete the xtra.bin and did a hard reset in order to restore this file in my failed system. I restored my nice backup and implemented the file.

This didn't do any trick. I've tried to import my register in order to restore the setting as it was before. The .reg doesn't fix it no more and the xtra.bin that i have installed after a hard reset isn't working either.

What are the options now? HTC said send it for repair whahahaha no way (2weeks without)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Warjcowski:
hivesnl-

QuickGPS uses your data connection to update and that might explain your inability to update. Are you able to update HTC Weather? If not, try searching around for your providers data and proxy settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xternal:
interesting, its not the sort of thing HTC would publicly announce either, because everyone would start demanding rma's.

I hope its not the case... :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
Positional lag being a hardware problem corrected by newer devices is my best situational analysis of this issue btw & I posted the video to prove it. :(

Speed lag is different and may not be solvable given the gps antenna on a Raphael.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hivesnl:
Well, i've restored my backup from january after i did a clean install.

This fixed it, but the root cause is not the internet connection.

It's just quickgps that is failing to receive the full package from the server. It's dwonling and then stops without any reasons. It just says : Connection lost, timed out.

To prove that my internet worked, i have tried WIFI and 3g internet. And both were working properly on that certain moment.

There's no reason why this bug is coming back all the time. I just keep the back up till it's coming back though:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mindfrost82:
Here are my latest reg settings. I still have 3-4 seconds of speed lag according to the speedometer, but if I'm watching the GPS cursor on the screen it usually stops as my car does.

These settings also keep Garmin connected for the most part by using COM4 (not Intermediate driver). With other settings Garmin would always drop the GPS connection for a second or two.

HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS

QoSAccuracy - 0

QoSPerformance - 0

(not sure if these actually did anything or not)

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\

Logs - Null

\Drivers

InputBufferSize - 512

OutputBufferSize - 256

RetryWaitOnError - 1

SleepOnNoData - 1500

\GPSOneDevice

PollInterval - 500
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
mindfrost, you are changing your settings every week, you will make me crazy! :D

do you use the agps settings that use the nokia servers?

or do you prefer to turn off AGPS?

i would like to know your opinion about it. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mharis:
Brand new HTC Raphael Pro and no stating Igo8 !?

Im having a problem whit instaling igo8 on my htc , i have a brand licensed ver. of igo8 and igo6 and when i installed it on my htc it starting and d nthing ?

Also i have a cracked full ver. of igo8 who works well n my MIO P560 and i do same thing to put it on my HTC Pro and its also after instaling starting and do nothing so i wonder des anybody have an IDEA ?

Haris M.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] harweyko:
O2 published GPS fix for XDA Serra, on Diamond forum there is post that it detects the ROM of the device and won`t install, could someone of you have a look at this? Could be find here: http://www.my-xda.com/software_updates.jsp or below:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mindfrost82:
Sorry about that lol, I just notice little things that don't work right, so I try to tweak it to find the best settings.

I used these settings on a 660mi trip last weekend and it worked pretty good for me.

As far as aGPS, I have it disabled. Care to point me in the direction of the Nokia Servers info? I haven't seen that yet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
here mindfrost: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=478199

and check there also my post to see my conclusions about it: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3267765&postcount=14
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mindfrost82:
Thanks, I just set it up to try with AT&T, so we'll see in about an hour on my way home what happens :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
i 'm curious about your experience with these agps settings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
I had agps setup for 2 days now and don't see a difference.

TomTom hasn't lagged for me in weeks though, still just the speed lag.

Garmin XT still lags about 3-4 sec in both position and speed.

I've changed all kinds of settings and nothing seems to make a difference.

I'll continue to search and tweak in the hopes of finding out why Garmin is slow to update and why the Rafael still has speed lag.

Someday:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Orbitrix:
side by side

My friends Touch Pro from sprint

My ATT Fuze form ATT

my friend's touch pro gets a lock consistantly in 20-30 seconds, 7-8 satalites INDOORS.... consistantly..... he doesnt even know what im talking about when i say i have GPS issues with my fuze.. he's never experienced any

my phone, sitting right next to his, indoors, cant get a fix... ever... period...

its freaking embarrassing... whats the deal?

stock rom, stock radio

fresh reboot

fresh download from QuickGPS

latest google maps

there really shouldnt be the need for much preperation beyond that unless there is a serious deffect

should i really look into a new radio for my phone?

we're using google maps as a test app on both of our phones (the new one with latitude)

ATT has really never said anything about this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
Have you disabled the "AGPS" ? The default agps settings break the GPS...also you need to set the gps to com4. Let us know what you have tried, we can get it working. The only thing I haven't seen working right on any of the Diamonds or Touch Pro's is speed lag. When you come to a complete stop it takes about 3sec for the speed to report 0. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] silencery:
I've got the same exact issues as Orbitrix.

ATT Fuze

Elite RC3

Fresh QuickGPS download

AGPS disabled

Only managed to get a fix once in Google Maps when I was outside.

I've only seen GPS Test get 4 sats at most, and it constantly seems to reset back to 'Looking for GPS unit' for some strange reason. I'm going to poke around some more for a solution...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, but everyone should download the HTC Tool below

http://www.4shared.com/file/62152575..._GPS_TOOL.html

and follow these directions. This way you are baselined and starting the GPS with fresh sat almanac.

"Clear Memory"

Here is detailed step by step instruction:

From the "Settings" Tab:

- select COM Port: COM4 (for TP or Diamond)

- select Baudrate: 57600 (for TP or Diamond)

- select "Clear Memory" from dropout under "Open" button

- click "Open" button

Now You can select "Information" Tab and wait till "Mode 2" under "GNSS DOP..." shows "3D".

Return to the "Settings" Tab, click "Close" and exit program.

Now you can run quickGPS and see if you get a fix faster & more accurate.

You can also experiment with registry settings / radio roms.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
noellenchris, is this tool the same than the GPSOneApp tool or is it another one?

Which is the benefit of using this tool? as a gps kicker? to set the gps to read or not to read quickgps and/or agps data? and then deduce if Qgps and orAgps are helping the GPS? for what do you use this tool?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
It's really not a kicker and shouldn't be done everytime. Just after making a registry change , flashing a new radio rom or when the gps seems slow to find sats and you don't know why. It forces the gps to "fine align" with a fresh updated data.

It's not the same. The directions I stated in the above post are for clearing the gps using the HTC tool... I haven't tried to clear the gps using the GPSOneApp.

I have found that sometimes the GPS is slow to find sats and then I flash a new radio and it finds sats in seconds. Then after flashing other radios, it's slow even on the same radio that found them in seconds. But if I clear the GPS it's quick again. I think Sleuth stated somewhere in the thread to power off the GPS for a few then power back on after making registry settings. I believe this is sorta the same trick to clear the GPS. Then you can get a good base for how the reg changes or new radio actually performs etc. Otherwise you will get mixed results and the "new radio or reg change" may seem to be a magic fix for you but not others.

So logically this will help baseline our progress for others too. Of course "roms & hardware" will also affect results so that should be posted too for others to compare.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fourcc:
you have confirmed my suspicions.

It has hapenned the same to me several times.

Each time i flash a new rom i get near instantaneous gps fixes in cold start of course (only quickgps) in 10 seconds !

after a while, installing apps and some days later, with the same radio and GPS reg settings i don't get so quick fixes.

so it seems that gps data is becoming corrupt somewhere in the device and this makes the gps react slower in subsequent gps tries.

so what we should do is to empty/clean this gps stored data and try again, right?

thanks you very much noellenchris

i will follow your guidelines.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
That's what I find works for me. I was going crazy trying to figure out why one radio worked great for me before, but then it was slow as mollasses. Clearing the radio seems to work well. Let me know how it works for you as well. As for AGPS, it's still enabled on mine, but I don't seem to notice any difference. I have no position lag with tomtom. Garmin has always lagged on my rafael. Speed lag is on every gps program I tried and even evident in the raw data.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
Just a quick point about agps and the different raphael flavors:

It's working great on the CDMA phones b/c Sprint has their servers active. Not so with GSM raphaels. What does this mean? CDMA Raphaels get a lock in 30 seconds consistantly. Side by side comparisons will show this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] petard:
What are the aGPS settings for HTC branded Touch Pros? Do those GPS work fine? Does the Diamond suffer from crappy GPS?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] doctajay:
I installed the GPSRegedit.cab and the Blackstone 1.10.25.25 radio and my GPS works great with no positional lag. For those that don't want to read through all 92 pages like I did, you can at least start with those 2 steps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rwijnhov:
ok tnx for the info.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Operation619:
There is more to it than appears.

CDMA is a synchronous network. Everything is time synced to a much tighter time domain. The more precise time you have available to the GPS receiver, the better your AGPS performance.

Yes, it also helps greatly that both CDMA carriers here in the US are more aggressive on their user-plane LBS initiatives than their GSM brethren.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TarKin:
any update on this one? :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Da_G:
I observed no marked difference when using the LG Incite GPS drivers, the problem is more lower level than that it seems.

I think our only hope for this is to access the radio ROM. right now i'm stuck with that, I need a translation from chinese, I posted over in the questions and answers forum but i think it's fallen to about page 6 or so.. i know what .dll's are key to accessing the radio rom, i know how to load them, but i don't know how to communicate with them.. i think the key is in that chinese translation..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Erythros:
Just for reference.

I have used tomtom 5 on the 6700 then upgraded to Tomtom 6 and since the 6700 had no internal GPS I used an external bluetooth GPS receiver. I never had lag problems using this setup.

I Then upgraded the phone to a 6800 with a stock ROM and I used the same tomtom 6 program. I used the internal GPS with the AGPS assist and did not experience any lag, but there was a marked improvement in satelite acquisition time as well as number of satelites acquired.

Now I have the TP using Mightyrom and while Acquisition time is the same I have noticed the lag mentioned in this post.

If anyone can figure out why the 6800 does not exhibit the lag while the TP does this might help.

On each device I used the same COM 4 configuration.

On each device the program was installed to main memory with the maps on the storage card.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lotion:
Mind pointing us lazy folk to the cab? I can't seem to find it (I quit reading about 10 pages back).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Cloneman:
My settings

disabled asisted GPS

log file : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt

old log : \windows\GPSLogFieBack.txt

log file size 32

1.90.401.1 WWE

radio 1.02.25.19

Run ok with:

AutoMapa 5.3

iGO 8.3

Garmin 5.0.0.20

Outside i have gps position in 20 seconds
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] maw:
GPS and new RAPH 1.11.25.01 radio

Hey Guys

Just wondering if Da_G and Sleuth tried the new Raphael radio 1.11.25.01 to check and see if the lag has been corrected with this radio. Can anyone raport back??

THANKS!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mindfrost82:
I'm running it along with the leaked ROM and the speed lag is still there for me.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] maw:
hmmmm thats too bad to hear that! I'm still waiting on an official ROM release from HTC which has been promised for so many months.... Maybe a combination with this new radio will make a difference. I haven't tried the leaked ROM as yet, so I'll give HTC until end of the month to come with a release....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] doctajay:
here you go
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 04orgzx6r:
Hey guys I have a Sprint Touch Pro, and I am Using TT7.....

I haven't changed anything with anvanced config or through Reg edits and I get a fix within 30-40 seconds....

My problem is the "jumpiness" of the cursor and the lag(behind a block)...

Will the Edits in the first post fix my problem?

Is there something better to do for the Sprint Touch Pro?

I tried wading through this thread but it is hard because most of you guys have the fuxe, LOL...

Any and all help will be appreciated, Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mike99:
I installed Omnia and d3d drivers, followed suggestions in post#1, and replaced Sprint branded TeleNav with a generic version.

I got rid of the lag almost completely, especially with TT7. There is still jumpiness using TeleNav and Amaze GPS. This seem to be related to the low screen refresh rate. Using hybrid or sat view maps usually worse than 2D nav with simple maps.

I also did cache tweaks few pages back.

Hope that works for you too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
Did anyone ever figure out which driver "Diamond", "Omnia" or the "LG Incite" are best?

edit: I'm currently running the xperia drivers ... I forgot them lol
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 04orgzx6r:
Thanks, guess I will try those things, so the Omnia and d3d drivers seem to work well....

Anyone else have a good setup with CDMA?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mike99:
I did not see any definitely positive result after direct comparison either here or at PPCGeeks. I did several changes at once and overall lag has improved. Not sure which ones acually worked.

What about the Xperia drivers? Do you fthink they improved performance?

For me, it seems like the main problem on my TP is SLOW refresh rate. Not quite sure if graphics drivers are helpful, but...

Would you recomment xperia driver instead???

Thanks.

Mike
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cmloo:
No it wont. Xperia suffers from the same positioning lag like its Raphael brother.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 04orgzx6r:
Hmmm so, if I have my maps on my memory card, would it me better to install TT7 to my memory card or my main memory?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
Most of the mapping software uses 2D & not 3D, I haven't noticed the difference and I tried the xperia , ATI Diamond & Omnia drivers. I was just wondering if anyone did 3D testing and concluded a winner.... But this is the wrong thread I guess for that.

W/TomTom, I don't have any positional lag, just speed lag. I'm still waitin for an update from Garmin for Mobile XT. Last one was in Sept 08 and it's a slow update / refresh bugger!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] behrouz:
Ive been getting consistent locks with this setup:

COM4 @57600 baudrate and buffers set at 256 using google maps.

I havent had a chance to test for lag but will try it out tomoro.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Golden Boy:
No GPS signal after 145km/h

In my Touch Pro the lag is... tolerable

My problem is that I bought Touch Pro so that I would use its Gps to warn me from speed cameras

The problem is that when I exceed 145-150 km/h I lose GPS signal and I must drop below 130 or even 120 km/h for my TP to find gps signal again

Is there anything I can do?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
I just want to report that with radio 1.11.25.1 I saw a HUMONGOUS improvement in GPS performance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] behrouz:
The settings I wrote up above seem to fix my GPS woes. A steady fix on 9-10 satellites and the only time I lost my fix was when I went into an underground tunnel during my commute. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] havoc99:
Hello all. Just thought I'd share my findings here. Today I took a trip with the wife to Bath which is approx 150 miles from London where I stay. Right now I have the Raphael HTC WWE 5.05.405.1 ROM installed (link is in my signature) and the Xperia Radio 1.10.25.18. I also installed TT7 (7.910 (9185)) as well as Sleuth-GPSIDRegFix.cab installed. Before my trip i disabled all the POI's from the display map and I tried to use it on my return trip back from Bath. It seemed that my GPS lock was really fast (not sure of timing) and TT worked better and faster than my TomTom GO 730T. I noticed no lag while travelling between 20-30mph and even between 60-85mph! Just thought i'd share my findings. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
You choice of course but why don't you use the radio that accompanied your ROM?

(i.e. 1.11)

Did you try it and didn't like it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] behrouz:
I emailed HTC about the GPS problems and this was there reply.

Thank you for your inquiry about your HTC Fuze.

I understand the need to have the best information to utilize your device. At this time, there are no known issues regarding GPS with the HTC Fuze. If you are having issues with your GPS on the device, you may want to contact us about your specific issues so we can help you resolve them. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Lol...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] eu_beu:
New ROM version

Hi, yesterday I installed the new official ROM version. It seem that is a little bit "speedy". Also at the gps seem to work much better. The positioning is more accurate. The "finding" process of the satellites is quicker.

But there are two issues that I don't like at this new version of ROM:

1. the "answering" mode of the phone is stoopid, i think, with the "sliding" cursor.

2. the "active sync" is always open like process. In the original version it wasn't like this.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] htcplussony:
I had the opposite with active sync. The original rom, it was listed as running and now doesn't in the update.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beowulf6:
Hi Everyone.

I never posted here about any GPS-Lag because my TouchPro never had any Lag in position. My only problem was that the GPS was sometimes not accurate in the left/right position and the IGO software was thinking i am driving on a street directly right or left of my position.

I updated to the official HTC Update and installed the "GPSOneApp".

yesterday i tried it while driving home with the train, and it seemed it was this time really spot-on. IGO showed the position directly on the coated(i hope the translation is correct) linie that is the train-line on the map.

I Dont know if it is because of the update or from this software where i enabled the option "Accuracy Optimal".

Of course i will test it some more.

PS: is there possibly the application missing in the update to recieve files directly to the storage card? or was it an additional software that i installed? :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
Has anyone looked to see if they have speed lag. Position lag for me was fixed via reg tweaks. NOTHING i've tried fixes the SPEED lag. ie: when i come to a complete stop it takes about 3-4sec for the reported gps speed to read 0. & when starting from a stop it takes about 3-4 sec to catch up to actual speed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] schnitzelbrain:
I think the speed lag is not completly from the gps itself. the software counts up to get a speed prediction and when the GPS signeal disappears it does a little bit of dead reckoning to keep calculating with the last data. so u don't really loose the path when gps disappeares. (Maybe lowering the GPS buffer makes a difference, but than the position will get unsteady.)

It takes than the last possition and integrades it from the max down to 0. Its always a matter of jumping around sensitiv or smoothed (integraded) speed/position
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
you must be the only one thinking like that

there have been HACKS to enable this before (and rip it from touch HD that was already using it), there have been numerous 3rd party attempts to lock the screen and protect accidental answering... and you don't like S2A?

hehehe

ok
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
When I use my bluetooth GPS, the speed is right on. I've tried....The problem is in the radio roms, Da_G has been looking into this for months.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
IMHO, that's as good as it will get noellenchris. It's chip related. Even the tilt has speed lag (not as bad as the fuze though). You can see this on my video on post 400.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black1982:
Why is speed lag a problem?

I agree!

I don't get why the "speed lag" is a problem, except for perfectionist types.

Tomtom works great. The arrow stops when i'm stopped even if the speed indication is wrong for a few seconds.

Since my last post i've tested my tomtom for about 3000 kms and it spot on all the time.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lukas718:
I tried that and I can't get iguidance 09 to start on my phone ( touch pro - sprint ) - any ideas how to fix that ?:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kk0813:
What exactly is not working? Are you using GPSGate? I am not sure with Sprint, but with ATT, when the data connection is active IGuidance takes lot of time to launch, I have to make sure data connection is disconnected before I launch IGuidance, then it comes up very fast. What exactly are you trying to do?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kk0813:
Corrupted Microsd card

Looks like some of my files on my 8gb microsd card are corrupted, they does not look like files but looks like some small square symbols, I got this card when I purchased IGuidance 2009. If I take the backup of the card (all the readable files) and format the card and copy the files back will the gps works?(assuming all the gps files are readable). I want to know if I format the card, does IGuidance recognize the card?. Did any one had this problem before? (with Iguidance or any other gps software). Will there be any licence issues with gps software after it's formatted?

Is there any check disk tool which can check the card and fix the errors?