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[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bnm7bnm:
If you only change font it will show hebrew letters but words will be written in reverse - very uncomfortable.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] the king:
Hi bro,

1-Where is the link to download this wonderful ROM?

2- Can this ROM be dumped or NOT?

with my deep regards
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
which rom?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] the king:
UR ROM

the link for ur Hebrew Unofficial HTC Roms. So how can I ge it?

regards,
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
here is an idea to try...... ;)

install "M-Amine 2.0 FINAL" rom in Arabic, it has support for Arabic and also support for

right to left hand writing (in Arabic).

http://rapidshare.com/files/158663210/M-Amine_2.0_ARA_FINAL.zip

download heb2ppc rar file from here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/163871696/heb4ppc.rar

install the "hebrew_regional.cab" first and then the "heb_fonts_all.cab" and then SR

now you have Hebrew support and also right to left support but no Hebrew keyboard.

if you need to write in Hebrew just install "SPB Full Keyboard v4" (not a free program) and choose

Hebrew language in the option. now you have Hebrew keyboard as well.

since the manila 2D in this rom is in Arabic, and we want Hebrew or English, just copy the right

files from one of the folders in "heb4ppc.rar" to your windows folder on your ppc.

"Heb4Manila2D1.1" for Hebrew or "Original Files (WWE)" for English.

now you have a device with Hebrew support that also write in Hebrew and without Eyron, PDAC or Paragon.

btw the O3-TOUCH (if you know what this is) is also working with this setting.

let me know if it's working for you.......it did for me.

p.s. credit for the Hebrew Manila go's to reuvenet from pocketpcfreak
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bnm7bnm:
Anyone tried this method & can confirm its working?

can the bidi part of M-Amine's rom be exported to other rom or maybe cab for this?

I couldn't wait and bought PDAC but still waiting for hebrew support with no unnecessary stuff..

also this app released maybe it can be used for hebrew somehow
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Which keyboard are you using, then?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bnm7bnm:
when posted this i used resco keyboard but now im using spb keyboard its much better.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Thank you, I'll try it.

How did you diasble the PDAC keyboard?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bnm7bnm:
with sktools>input methods>uninstall/disable/remove registry keys
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Thank you.

I installed the demo SPB keyboard, disabled the 2 PDAC keyboards, performed SR and timed the boot process until I got the full Today screen.

In my case, boot time is about the same (~1 min).
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Skyheartblue:
Hi Mate,

Not working for me as should be, after did all you've wrote I still cannot see Heb writings.

I mean, I can see the heb font ok but all is reversed (mirror writing)..... SMS... Contacts.....

Any suggestion b4 installing stupid PDAC\Eyron support?

Cheers,

JB
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
yes it can and it's called arabizer. you can download the cab from here:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120893&d=1223751345

well it works for me on a number of roms includes uDK-R4, Epimazzo-KhanX Touch Navia, C_shekhar last rom and PDAVIET last roms.

install the arabizer first

then the hebrew_regional

then the heb_fonts_all

also if you need Hebrew keyboard

there's a few you can try....

-SPB 4

-Resco Keyboard PRO

-PocketCM Keyboard

and any other keyboard that have Hebrew mapping support.

if anyone wants to post this solution for free Hebrew support in pocketpcfreak he is free to do so.

I'm sure we can find more people to try/test it. I think it will work on any ppc with WM6 and up.

I can't post in pocketpcfreak since I'm not a member there.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
which rom are you using? if it's not the Arabic rom it will not work. you can try installing the arabizer first if your using

a different rom and then install the Hebrew_regional followed with the heb_fonts_all. I only tried it on the Arabic rom and

other WWE roms. I'm not sure how it works if you have different language installed other then Arabic or WWE.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Skyheartblue:
Heb support + Keyboard for PDA

OK, this is beautiful!! :D

Now I have Heb fonts + Heb keyboard support with no Pda/Eyron installed!

What I did is simple (according to eranar suggestions!!!):

1. Install any ROM you like, I have tried “c_shekhar final” & “PDAVIET latest”

2. Copy files attached to system memory (not to the SD and also install them when SD I out!)

3. Install first: “arabizer.cab”, then- “hebrew_regional.cab”, then- “heb_fonts_all.cab”

Soft reset when done.

4. Installed any keyboard you like: “Spb”… “Resco”… or others

& WALLA! You have a fat ROM with Heb fonts support and keyboard. No need for any stupid Heb interface that is killing device memory ;)

JB
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
Love U ALL :-)

Dear people

I LOVE U ALL for sharing this information - my life were upgreded since that at the same level as when I have bought my first PPC....

thank U all :-))))))))
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Do you see any improvement on boot time, with this solution?

Further, when typing using the s/w keyboard, do you feel the lag that was caused by PDAC/Eyron?

When I used the PDAC keyboard, it seemed as if every letter was "pushed" to the end of the word (seemed as some sort of on-line translation). Very weird, but more importantly - it slowed down text entry, as well as overall PD responsiveness.

Thanks.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Doesn't work with ynet....
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Skyheartblue:
Yes it is, after applying my files change regional settings to Hebrew - Need to do this manually.

JB
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
It is set as Hebrew...

Start-Settings-Regional Settings.

Unless I'm looking in the wrong place?

Also, all Hebrew characters in the contacts have turned to Arabic (When I try to write a new SMS and select the addressee, I'm able to correctly enter the name and find it in the Contacts list, but when I click on the name in order to select the Mobile phone number (out of all the phones that the contact contains) - it appears in Arabic).

Further, in Start-Programs I have a new folder, called MOBiDIV, which contains a single icon, for an app called Multilingual Support. But if I click on it, it doesn't respond.

I also have Reuvenet's Hebrew ROM installed. Could this be the reason?

Thanks.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Skyheartblue:
Could be.... I have tried it only on WWW ROM's and it worked on every each one.

JB
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
YES !!!

I'm using the cliquick latest version - it is soo quick - so I'm soo please that finaly we are on the same legue of the other languges in term of speed.

you can try it yourself - if it will not help - it probably will not hart :-)

also you need to look for the setting of both the keyboard and the advanceConfig tool - there is setting that can increase the speed of the gesture operation.

have fun :-) we are on the map !
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
Walla, Ynet, Google ....

all works 100%

which ROM do you use ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
I found that I had not completely removed PDAC (the RAPI extender remained). I uninstalled and SR, but it didn't help.

Removed Reuvenet's Hebrew ROM and SR, now the SMS is resolved, but the Ynet problem remains.

I still can't run the MOBiDIV Multilingual Support in Start-Programs. Should I be able to, or is it the same for everybody?

Thanks.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
see my sig............
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Hmmm....

Removed all 3 cabs, SR, reinstalled, SR, and now all hebrew is reversed.

FWIW, in Regional Settings, I now have "Hebrew", while previously I had "עברית".

Ynet still has gibberish instead of Hebrew.

Further, I now can't find the MOBiDIV Multilingual Support in Start-Programs.....
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
advice that always work...

I have found that even if I have uninstall Eyron for example - the keyboard was not removed as well as the fonts

my personal advice is to either start again from Hard reset or use registry application as SKtools and to remove any left over registry and application
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
sorry - I didn't notice

mmmmm....well, I have used this XIP build base version and module - but I havn't tried this 3 "magic" cabs then - so I prefer to keep silent until some elese will try this over your same configuration.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
wisniak, try to install on a clean rom, after upgrading to a new rom or after HR.

you have to set the "Regional Settings" to Hebrew manually.

you don't need to start anything from the "MOBiDIV" folder. the main reason for using this "Arabizer"

is that it installs a bidirectional dll that support right to left writing. then the heb fonts are suppose

to overwrite the Arabic ones. the Hebrew support suppose to work (i think) even without the

Regional Settings installed.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
U R correct

[the Hebrew support suppose to work (i think) even without the

Regional Settings installed.[/QUOTE]

this is how I work - no need to change the Region setting - just install the 3 cab at the order that was recommended and preform reset after each step
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
This solution is absoloutely perfect.

SMS in hebrew, no changes to the system, full support..
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
I gave up.

Uninstalled everything, reinstalled everything (with an SR between the apps).

Same results.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
Don't give up

If you don't mined for all your applications - preform Hard reset not soft - if you dont know how to do it - you can look around here there is a thread about this

Or you can wait until your next upgrade.... :-)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] reiteravi:
he is "quite experienced" user not to understand sr+hr

his problem is elsewhere

unique seauence of installations or so
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
avi, did you try it ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
I need my other apps much more than I need this solution...

So I'll try again next time I flash a new ROM.

I simply don't have the patience to debug this at the moment.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] reiteravi:
only on spb shell the date numbers are arabic - probably skin issue
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
Nope.

I didn't check everything, just writing an SMS and browsing to ynet.

Both didn't work.

Maybe some issue with SPB Keyboard 4 and one of its skins that I installed?

Anyway, I'll try it again one of the forthcoming evenings, if (when) I get home early from work.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] daniel76:
work on htc hd !!!

i installed it on htc hd and it works great !!!!!

1. internet - great !!

2. mail - great !!

3. sms - great !!

4. calemder - i see good and work ok - the only problem is that on day, week and agenda view i c יייייייי instad of the days - but i can live with that !!!

also insalled spb kebord !!!!

im happy !!

daniel
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
did you SR after every install ?

1. arabizer.cab then SR

2. hebrew_regional.cab then SR

3. heb_fonts_all.cab then SR

i had the same problem in the alarm days when i didn't SR between 2 and 3 maybe it's the same
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
avi, try with "English-USA" in the regional settings.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
I'm not experiencing any problems on KhanX's Navia 1.5 (WWE of course)

to be honest, this solution pretty much solves every other problem i had with my Polaris as well.

I was using LENg which prevented me from flashing all kinds of roms due to the problems it caused... and considering i didn't need a hebrew interface only to read hebrew.. i am now satisfied like a whore who just won the lottery.

LENg OUT!

weird solution which works IN!

grazzie eran.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] reiteravi:
i already changed (to uk - 24h style)

but it requires changes in calendar settings and maybe elsewhere

not that it really bother
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
just a suggestion.. everyone.

Hardreseting and flashing a rom which is known to be stable and fast is always a problem solver.

considering we just got a brand new solution to hebrew, I just flashed a new rom, installed all required apps and the heb support on my polaris and everything's running smooth.

I know it's a ***** flashing a installing anew, but you'd be doing yourself a big favour.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] daniel76:
yes i did.....

i changed it in to u k reg settings - i can kive with that....

ill try hebrew agein later.

tnx !!!!

daniel
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
if anyone has a new problem to place in the first post please let me know.

seems to be going really well.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
well i don't think that's it's "his" solution or idea either, he only wrote a shorter instructions

and add the files he downloaded from me to XDA. if you give credit to someone at list give it

to the right person.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
Thanks for the arabizer, it actually seems to work very well. I already had the Hebrew fonts installed before, and don't really care about the regional settings, so i skipped that cab. But the arabizer's bidi simply works. It doesn't seems to cause any noticeable slowdowns, it doesn't misalign English stuff like the LENG does, it doesn't mess with Opera 9.5. It just works. Thanks a lot :)

PS: i am on stock ROM, WM6.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
A somewhat related question ;)

Is the arabizer free or is it a hacked/leaked/etc version here ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] the king:
Very good news for all people who using Hebrew Windows Mobile, hope that one day can Kurdish language also be in Windows Mobile.

I am so glad bro to hear that.

With my regards,
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] alfi07:
tank you

goog work

toda.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eranar:
it's probably a part of a bigger package which is not free. the cab itself, was inside M-Amine Arabic rom

and was also mention a few time by people in XDA who was looking to add Arabic support to another rom.

since Arabic is also written from right to left, the idea was to take the BiDi engine and then overwrite

the Arabic fonts and settings. the regional is not that important, i was trying to make the install more complete.

since the cab was free to take on XDA i could try to do all my tests with it. there is a bigger package

called

tsd_mobidiv_416.cab

which also include an Arabic keyboard, i didn't try anything with it yet

but maybe it's possible to replace the Arabic keyboard with Hebrew one and have a keyboard as well.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
my bad...

i'll change it right away.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
If you look inside the arabizer.cab, you'll find that it includes multiple files that seem unnecessary for just bidi support, for example, some .mui files. Also, there is an .nsl file, that probably includes Arabic regional settings, unnecessary for us, yet may probably be replaced by our regional settings file instead. A keyboard DLL and some .cpl applet are also copied over (to a separate dir) and hardly necessary. How about cleaning up the unncessarry stuff and making a barebone Hebrew support .cab, without the unncessesary stuff that takes an extra space ?

Also, i've noticed the fonts files (tahoma.ttf and tahomabd.ttf) are expected to be copied by the arabizer.cab into the same location (windows directory) the Hebrew fonts cab puts them in. Arabizer.cab was the last one i've installed, and i still have Hebrew fonts on my system, does it means the arabizer's ttfs got the Hebrew as well, does it means that no separate Hebrew fonts install is really needed when installing on a clean system ?

And, are we legally allowed to alter the content of this cab ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] emonk:
To be honest, maybe I should have wrote it a long time ago...

I use M-Anime 2.0 with PDAC and English interface. Everything works as it should: SMS, email, Opera (yes, YNet looks right). Actually, with the exception of one or two cooked ROMs, I never had any issue with Hebrew.

PDAC doesn't seem to slow anything, maybe with one exception: the first soft reset after installing is frighteningly slow (I was sure the device stuck).

About stability: what is this "soft reset" people keep talking about? :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] libal:
works fine for me...

Treo 750 6.1 os.

Thank you very much ...:)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] prattjo:
I installed following the instructions the 3 cabs on a polaris after installing the KhanX Navia 1.4 ROM. Everything works fine except as stated the day letters in calender so I changed regional setting to English United Kingdom. I still have 1 small problem in some applications you can type Hebrew and it is accepted but it doesn't display correctly.

For instance look at your owner Information (in my case entered in English) although the data is correct as you typed it. it isn't displayed correctly.

Someone has a solution?

Thanks
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] noams:
This is what I received from PDAC support after contacting them regrading the Opera Mini failure :

שלום רב

כיום הדפדפן שאתה מנסה להשתמש בו הוא עדיין בגרסת בטא, כך שלא ניתן לבודק לצערנו.‏

‏ ‏

‏ ‏

בברכה‎,‎

צוות תמיכה‎ PDAC"

or in translation for non hebrew readers :

"The browser you try to use is in Beta and therefor we can't test and confirm the problem"
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
Thank U Nir

Nir

I'd like to thank you also for openning this Thread so people can share there commom issue.

I'd like to suggest that we continue and maintain this forum and to have fearther issue dicussion related to unique issue that cuase by hebrew interface.

- one of the issue related here for exemple is the option to reduce several component from the current CAB that are not needed for the hebrew languge

- Other issue related to SW behavior when there are hebrew fonts

- another issue related to ROM behavior sharing like KhanX Touch Navia 1.2 that fully supported hebrew or PDAVIET latest ROM that already include hebrew fonts "build-in"

and there are a lot of stuff that can be discussed here :-)

I also want to advice to "move" this Thread to the "Development and Hacking" or "General" view so other poeple will be able to read and share and not "just" the polaris poeple :-)

please advice.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
I thought about moving this but the Dev&Hack section is already flooded with ****.. and it doesn't exactly fit there.

maybe i'll suggest to open a new section called Multilingual Support and we'll be able to open threads for whatever we need over there.

in the meanwhile, we can try and solve the problems present and extract whatever's not needed from the cabs as you said.

i'll look into it today

that's my opinion.

good day
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
also, every device has different problems... openning a thread for hebrew on all devices would result in a complete mess.

What i do think tho is that we can share the solution eran found with everyone... because it might (and probably will work on most devices with WM6/WM6.1
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
Well, here we go, the first problems with the arabizer + Hebrew :-(

Hebrew line that starts with digits got those digits displayed using Arab characters. The easiest way to reproduce on the stock ROM - start writing an SMS, type a single Hebrew letter, then a number, then a space, then a few additional Hebrew letters. Now go to the first letter and delete it. The digits are now displayed using the Arab characters.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] prattjo:
And don't forget this Bug. Thanks
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ys222:
OK - I understend your (both) replays :-)

in addition to the headline, I'll be happy to help in any verification way :-)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bnm7bnm:
Me too have this problem but only if i make as you said otherwise everything works ok.

I just flashed udk r4 installed arabizer+heb fonts (no regional)+spb keyboard

Everything works great without slowing anything.

Heres few screenshots: (nir you can add them to first post if you like)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
This seems to happen on any line that is detected by the arabizer/bidi system as being RTL that starts with the numbers. Happened to me in RSS Hub on one of the YNet feeds. BTW i had to use a small PHP script to make the feed work, RSS Hub won't accept the windows-1255 encoding.

BTW, can someone recommend a true type font editor ? I'd like to patch the font and replace the arab digits with the regular ones :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] prattjo:
Am I the only one having display problems of input fields filled with English text, for instance the owner information. It is correct and no problem in registring software but it is displayed inncorrectly
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
the best one that i know of is High-Logic font creator.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
Regarding all the problems i just read about.

I'm using KhanX's 1.5

My owner name is in english.

my regional settings are set to english-usa

i installed the 3 cabs in the original order they were posted in.

I'm experiencing no problems with SMS's/reminders/owner info/Skyfire...

didn't check opera yet but bnm posted screenshots of it working.

I'm assuming that some fonts are replaced with other fonts depending on the roms each of you are using.

btw, i'm using SPBKeyboard and resco keyboard.. they both work..
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
I checked the cabs..

there are certainly a few files there which we can lose..

about the fonts.

Tahoma is a unicode font. whatever problems you have it's ALMOST certain they're not caused by the font. tahoma, unless edited, contains almost ALL chars in the world (except for chinese and japanese if i'm not mistaken)...

regarding the font files in the cabs, they can all be deleted. tahoma is a default font in WM2003/WM5/WM6/WM6.1

about wince.nls

the only nls that counts is the bigger one.. the 2.5mb one. the one in the arabizer doesn't matter and can be deleted

about heb_fonts_all cab.

this is pretty much pointless if i'm not mistaken.

there should be absoloutely NO difference between installing only arabizer and hebrew_regional to installing all 3.

about usemynls.exe

it's essential for working the current nls found on your system

i don't know about the DLLs.. they have to be checked..

but i think we can do with the arabizer.cab only switching the wince.nls with the one from hebrew_regional, deleting the fonts, and using one of the 2 option.xml files in either arabizer or hebrew_regional (i'm not sure which one is needed so both should be tried out)..

one thing tho.. i'm not sure what should be done with the dsm and rgu files in each package..i don't know if they effect anything..
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] wisniak:
See this thread which discusses the various Arabizer solutions, and their compatibility.

It also contains several download links.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=400758
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
Nir, 10x. Just edited the fonts using their trial version, putting the normal digits glyphs instead of the Arabic ones. Also, i've replaced the fonts inside the Arabizer with the edited fonts, removed the stuff that seems unnecessary (*.mui, the stuff from the install dir, wince.nls, shortcuts).

Already did the minimal testing on the device right after hard reseting it, seems to work. I'll restore from backup now, install the cab again, use it for a few days and post it here if it would work as expected.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] nir36:
i must've missed something.

I checked out the tahoma fonts.

both packs of fonts (from arabizer and heb_fonts) have the same pack of chars.. including the regular numbers and hebrew chars.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] InfX:
Indeed, they are, the separate fonts pack isnt necessary at all.