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[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Cannot Record Video

This super phone cannot record video, oh no, and just imagine yourself in a emergency situation, where you need to record a little video, that's one dream I don't want to have. Man, that would be more like a nightmare to me and they call this super phone the dream and it cannot record any video at all, yeah right..........!:D
[HTC Excalibur] dilfatx:
Well if it has a camera and the ability to view video.. also being Linux based.. there has to be a workaround for this.. i also felt it was a disappointment not being video ready out of the box..
[HTC Excalibur] trs999:
Cannot Record Video

:eek: I didn't know it couldn't record video :mad: This is the first I have heard of that. Oh well I am still going to purchase it so that I can test it out.

These are the only specs that have been released that I can find.

HTC Dream will apparently be rocking 3.6Mbps HSDPA, 128MB RAM / 256MB ROM, and a capacitive touchscreen (!) - all powered by a Qualcomm MS 7201A processor clocking in at a speedy 528MHz.

When do I ever record video as it is . . . . NEVER! haha
[HTC Excalibur] iamanalog:
didn't you forget the "crystal clear uber quality HD WOWZZ!!! Blue-Ray!!!one!" of the playback?

....Seriously who really uses a cellphone to record anything, maybe it shows that i just don't care to waste my time with it but all the 3gp videos ive ever seen are complete ****. not to mention 90% of the photos ive seen taken on a cellphone are just trash.
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
This Phone Does Not Camcord Video!

Let me make myself perfectly clear, I'm not talking about 3 gp video web site, movies, YouTube video clips..ect or snap shots with the camera. Example, suppose you are in a accident, an emergency situation and you need to document the event with video, well with this phone you would not be able to do that, because this so call super phone does not camcord video, That's a dream I don't want to have, that would be a nightmare for me and for a lot of other people too.................!:D
[HTC Excalibur] saul972:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080815/bs_nf/61366

The HTC phone is expected to have a touchscreen that slides out to reveal a full keyboard.
[HTC Excalibur] spikey911:
The phone is not out, the specs are not clear, so how can you say it doesnt support video recording yet?

I have not read any official statement that supports this claim.

I myself can't wait to see this phone, however, my biggest concern is the apps...

I love my Resco Radio, and Pocket Tunes and Core Player, etc....I sure hope these guys will develop for Android..
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
I Knew You Were Coming, No Camcording On The Android, The Dream, Nightmare!

I knew you were coming, OK(LOL)! Go to http://tmonews.com and go to http://www.tmoworld.com and read it for yourself, both web sites will tell you the same thing that I' telling you, but read it with your own eyes, seeing is believing, no video recording.......!:D
[HTC Excalibur] spikey911:
Like I said, I would wait for official news, not something from a blog site...

Even if it doesn't have a video recording app out of the box, doesn't mean someone won't make an app.. That's the whole point of Android.
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Blog This

Blog this, their is no Camcorder feature on the upcoming code name, HTC G1, better known as Google's Android or the Dream, and this is official. If you want to know anything about the Android go to the above web sites, blog that...............!:D
[HTC Excalibur] spikey911:
Actually, Google's Android is the name of the operating system, not the phone.

The phones name is the Dream.

Unfortunately, this is something that also confuses the general public about the phone..

Those unofficial blog sites you refer are missing some other key features such as GPS...

We will find out the real truth when Tmobile or HTC release official specs.. Until then, its all still rumor.
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
No Camcoder On THe DREAM!

You can word it any kind of way you want to, bottom line still, the DREAM will not have a camcorder feature....!:D
[HTC Excalibur] beartard:
Will not *have* or will not *come with* a camcorder feature? That's a bit like saying "You can word it any kind of way you want to, bottom line still, the DASH will not have WM6.1.....!:D" Fact is, you really don't know yet, because you're trusting blog sites that don't list sources and can't even spell "roll out" or "two" correctly.

All this negativity coming from someone who claims there's no limit to what he can make his current phone do...even surpassing the physical limitations of said phone. But when it comes to having an application written (even if delayed) that's well within a future phone's capabilities, you scoff? Truly amazing.

The thing about Android is that, being Linux-based, there's no overhead for potential developers to join the Microsoft club to develop software for the phone. The SDK has been available for a while now, giving interested people a jump at learning the internals of the new OS and trying their hands at coding applications for it. It can be downloaded and used in just a few minutes' time. Try that with WM or whatever Apple uses on that other phone. The vast majority are volunteers who do it for the challenge and the love of the code, not for pecuniary interest. Their work is freely released so that everyone has access to it and can modify it to suit themselves if need be. They don't hold their programs back and laugh at others who don't have what they do. Also, it will be so much easier to get simple apps that do one thing, and do it well. It should be a boon for end-users.

So whether or not the Dream actually ships with a camcorder application, it won't be long before it does get one. That's the beauty of a system where anyone with the know-how can write beautifully functional applications and get them to the masses for free (really free, not pirated-free.)
[HTC Excalibur] trs999:
I like the way Beartard thinks. :D
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
It Still Does Not Change Things, No Video Recording On The Dream!

Guy, well said, still it does not change things with the current Dream, their will be no camcording feature, but I never said their would never be a camcording feature added to the Dream in the future.........!:D
[HTC Excalibur] spikey911:
Funny, thats what you lead everyone to believe up until now.

Anyway, it would be great if Android could be ported over to the Dash, if for nothing else but testing purposes.

I would love to get the new Dream, but until some good apps come out, I may wait... Tough decision....The rumored hardware specs seem pretty good..

Also, would love to see the Dream have Windows Mobile on it, but I don't think it will happen..
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Leading People To Believe That The Current Dream Will Not Have Video Recording

It's a fact that the current Dream will not have the camcording feature on board, so I don't have to lead people to believe anything. Some people will buy anything, but I will never ever purchase a mobile phone without the feature to camcord video. The Dream has some very nice features but it does not have all the whistles and bells like the HTC Raphael {PRO}, Samsung Omnia i900 or the just released today, {King Dog} LG'S KC910 with a 8MP camera Xenon flash, got it all dude..................!:D
[HTC Excalibur] MontAlbert:
I am hoping someone will develop an app that is a WM6 emulator to allow us to run WM6 apps on the android OS.......

As for the video recording, with it being open platform someone would be able to develop video recording fairly soon.....
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Video Recording Coming Soon

You are correct, their is already somebody working on video recording software for the Dream, the same people who made video recording software for the iphone........!:)
[HTC Excalibur] spikey911:
Seems like right now its the other way around... Some WM6 can run Android..

I would rather have a dual boot because emulation would probably be too slow.

Speaking of emulators, I am hopeful to see some Snes,Genesis, etc emulators for it...With the faster processor, we may get some good speed out of it for those.
[HTC Excalibur] beartard:
To the posters about emulation on the android platform...it might not be so far-fetched. The base of the android platform is Linux. Now, that's a relatively small part of the whole android thing, but it's fundamental.

There are already apps like wine in LInux that can run desktop Windows software like Office 2007 and even a lot of popular Windows games. I don't really know how different the internals of Windows Mobile software is from standard Windows software, but anything's possible. Future android phones could run WM apps under emulation. I doubt seriously, though, that anyone would want to *see* a WM app running on a more modern interface.

Now add to that the plethora of arcade game and console emulators that are already available on Linux platforms and it's easy to see that emulation is definitely something that could be ported to android-based phones.

I wouldn't expect anything like that on the G1, though. There's a large developer community already, but both those niche genres above are still a little far-out while they work on new and innovative apps for the platform.
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
some dream/3g info

if any of this has been posted...my bad.

so i got sick of all the crap being posted on the web about the dream coming on this day and that day then never etc....so i called tmo yesteday and talked to a pretty knowledgeable rep.

she said in fact that it will be announced on the 23 as posted. this will not work like the iphone release. ONLY CURRENT TMO CUSTOMER WILL BE ALLOWED TO BUY DURING THE PRE-SALES (and you MUST have a gmail account). like the rumor going around that you have to be at the store to do this....is completely false. it will be handled like the tony hawk sidekick..when you log into your tmo account, you will pretty much be spammed with the dream and have the option to order right there. she said they dont want masses going to the stores for this because it sucks for their current customers and wastes there time. they dont want hordes of people from other carriers getting the phones before tmobile customers..hence the presale...which i think is very kind of them.. there will be discounts for just being an current customer due to the new 3g roll out...so they arent going to screw us and make us pay full price to use 3g (there is going to be another data plan though that will be a bit more than the 20$ now..how much? no clue for sure..rumor was $30 a month) she wouldnt disclose prices to me...which is understandable.

one other note...this should also answer the 3g rollout rumors and questions. this was in a release by tmo

Markets currently with T-Mobile 3G (13):

* Austin

* Baltimore

* Boston

* Dallas

* Houston

* Las Vegas

* Miami

* Minneapolis

* New York/New Jersey/Long Island

* Phoenix

* Portland

* San Antonio

* San Diego

Markets getting T-Mobile 3G by mid-October (8):

* Atlanta

* Chicago

* Los Angeles

* Orlando

* Philadelphia

* Sacramento

* San Francisco

* Seattle

Markets getting T-Mobile 3G by the end of 2008 (6):

* Birmingham

* Denver

* Detroit

* Kansas City

* Memphis

* Tampa

anyways...thats what the horses mouth told me..take it for what its worth..all i know is i have my credit card ready.....

gix
[HTC Excalibur] pfunkside:
I want Milwaukee to have 3G. Well by the time I buy a new phone there will mods galore. No worries Open Source Baby! Go f yourselves with your locked down phones. Finally we get what we pay for.
[HTC Excalibur] AbsoluteDesignz:
I'm ready :-)
[HTC Excalibur] gospeed.racer:
thanks for the info....I dont log into my tmo but once a month so I am glad I saw this!

edit: just watched the video, now I am really hyped :)

http://rizzn.com/blog/2008/09/gphone-spotted-in-wild.php
[HTC Excalibur] showaco:
:D

http://gizmodo.com/5052578/how-android-will-help-google-profile-you
[HTC Excalibur] RussianSolja:
you know i was *****ed at for copying info from the internet and pastein it on here but yet you do it and its alright? lol sorry just thought that to be funny.
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
PMSL

We have another comedian on the forum, there goes your job gix :D

But showaco a very good and valid point even if put in comedy.
[HTC Excalibur] kron2:
win I get the dream I will have to remember to wear my tin foil hat

first yahoo now google
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
like i care..they can follow me, listen to my calls, read my texts, watch me pee, call my mom names...i dont care cause im gonna have android and you wont =P

i just want something new and different. im not a crack dealer..i got nothing to hide.... and honestly, if google were to take over the planet....id be totally fine with that..
[HTC Excalibur] beartard:
I'd support nazis with jetpacks riding dinosaurs for world domination if it'd help unsettle Microsoft a little bit. WM has been on their "not-to-do" list for too long.
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
jetpacks you say.......hrm. count me in.
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
You know my feelings over MS & Goog but same as gix if i get to travel in style and never ride that pesky push bike again i'm in :D
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
hope the dream has a jetpack travel charger...
[HTC Excalibur] stylez:
Yeah it charges off the dream and since google are so into saving our planet they have produced a solar power charger, so you can charge on the move, well tweaked....
[HTC Excalibur] Kichigai:
Running an Alternate OS?

OK, I love my old T-Mo Dash, but it's been sitting in a drawer for the past six months because Windows Mobile is just too damn unstable. I'll go into a building, lose cell signal, then fight with the thing for an hour and a half to get it back online. I love the hardware, and I miss the QWERTY, so I'm wondering, are there any alternate OSes people have managed to get running on the thing?

The Dash's specs are pretty well known, there are cusomized ROMs, so has anyone gotten something other than Windows Mobile to work? I mean, WinMo's OK, in concept, but I am NOT going back to using Missing Sync again (that was the most hellish part of the whole thing), so I'm wondering if anyone has managed to (or is interested in) get Android or something like Linux (under Qtopia or OpenMoko) running on the Dash?

Sorry if my question sounds like the uninformed ranting of a noob, but I've been out of the scene for a while.
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
in short...no, not that i personally know of. i remember there being bootloader issues limiting this and what not...im not sure of the details...but there are a couple threads on here about it

have you tried wm6.1 (one of the roms from here) and maybe udating your radio?

what rom is running on it?

and no one said you have to run active sync...there are alternatives.

but it sounds like your mind is made up...regardless, ill still be in line for the HTC Dream...maybe you should get in line too?
[HTC Excalibur] beartard:
The Xanadux people (check the wiki) have specialized in putting Linux on HTC phones, but there's been no interest from Dash users to do so. As far as I know, their best results turn a WM PDA into a Linux PDA, but phone capability is not functional. I could be wrong on this.

Things like OpenMoko and the like are built for specific hardware and the Dash doesn't fit those specs. Even then, you'd have the opposite situation: a linux phone without PDA functionality. Not sure how it'd handle a qwerty keyboard either.

And Android is pretty much the same at the moment. Yes, there are people who have made "live-SDs" of Android for other HTC phones and a few more have installed it outright. Unfortunately, this is in violation of Google's own license agreement for the SDK download.

And honestly, the Dash is getting old for phone technology. I don't think there will be much future interest in getting alternative OSes to work on it. That said, though, I agree with gixxum. Flashing a newer version of WM from here without adding tons of third-party crap to it makes for a pretty spiffy setup until the next big thing comes along.
[HTC Excalibur] gospeed.racer:
well, its available now. I just finished my order online- its $179 plus $18 to upgrade. The data plan is $25/mo with unlimited data and 400 text, or $35 with unlimited text.

They say it will be delivered on the 22nd of Oct
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
ordered :D
[HTC Excalibur] swaney:
ordered yay
[HTC Excalibur] ruinertt:
A few questions:

- How did you get the $179 deal? How long did you have on your current contract? I already upgraded back in March, so it might have me at $299 for the upgrade.

- How well will it work with Exchange in terms of being a smartphone?
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
perfect...tmobiles system is all ****ed up...they called me and said my order was messed up and i have to do it again. now i cant get through on their site because of the overwhelming traffic...if i get ****ed and dont end up being able to order, i will be an at&t customer by the end of the day today.

sick of tmobile being idiot and promising **** that never happens.
[HTC Excalibur] BigFellor:
Went to T-mobile under "Upgrade your phone". They want $300!!!! No thanks.
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
$179.00 For A Pacman Game {LOL)

I watched the T-Mobile/Google/G1 Dream phone show this morning, and I was highly disappointed with the G1, no video capture, plus no bluetooth stereo, all I saw was a pacman game for a $179.00.....!

One thing is for sure, SonyEricsson you have nothing worry about, because your Xperia X1 is the Supreme, Superior mobile phone on the market today, if you don't believe me, see for yourself http://sonyericsson.com/x1/ .....! Hammer time, the G1 cannot touch this, the Superior Xperia x1......!:D
[HTC Excalibur] swaney:
honestly who makes video
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Pacman For A $179.00 {LOL}

Pacman make videos for a $179.00, did you buy one of those pacman phones.......?{LOL} {LOL} {LOL}!:D
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
where do i buy it?
[HTC Excalibur] gospeed.racergo:
I could really give a rats behind about video..you know why? Look what we had when the Excalibur came out and where we are now. Now, take that operating system and make it usable. Just because it doesnt have it now doesnt mean it wont in a month, or a few months.

I think Technology is just irate because he hasnt designed a better media player for the Android system yet. Once he does, it will be the greatest thing since sliced bread

Back on topic:), I have been trying to help my friend upgrade for 2 hours- the website is fubar'd. grrr
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Gixxum I know You Are Mad Man Today {LOL}

I know you are angry at T-mobile/Google Corp, they were trying to pull the old Jedi iphone trick, but people done got hip to that play. Gixxum go to http://xperiax1.net and get all the latest info on the Xperia x1. It will not be on the market until Nov.1, 2008 here in the USA, now this phone may not be sold by T-Mobile, but it will work on T-Mobile's USA 3g 1700/2100 Mhz network........!
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
at this point...im done with tmobile...now i no longer have the option to get the g1 at 179 after i was charged then credited back the first order....im over this ****

ill gladly wait til nov 1 for the sony..i will be waiting as an AT&T customer...as of today, tmob can eat my ass. im sick of waiting for **** that will never happen. so im currently in the process of porting my number...

if all else fails ill get a touch pro or something
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Check Out This MultiMedia Player

Go to http://xperiancers.com/multimedia/ ..........!:)
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Works On AT&T Network Also

The only thing I like on the G1 was "Street View", I got the street view software already and I like the "Pacman game", that was it. {LOL} Yeah, the Xperia X1 will work on AT&T 3g network also and the HTC Touch Pro or HD is my 2nd choice. I will never purchase the G1, even if it was the last phone on the planet.......!{LOL}
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
its not even the hardware that i care about..its tmobiles ongoing line of BS that they feed their customers..ive stayed a customer for 1 reason...the hopes of 3g on a good phone. they said that to their loyal customers, we would be offered this first with reduced prices...well as of right now, i was ordered, then not ordered, then cant order PLUS i have $600 worth of ****ed up charges on my DEBIT card. they now have taken $600 in CASH from me in error.

im done.
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
$600.00

Yeah, $600.00, I woud be at T-mobile headquarters.......!:D
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
update:

so after being on the phone with these bastards all day...they will not offer me the phone at $179 as I originally paid because now it shows that I used my upgrade....which i did, ON THIS PHONE. well they cant change that in their system for this phone right now. so she marked that on NOVEMBER 22, I will be eligible to buy this phone for $179 with a 2 year extension.

where is my $600 you say? oh i cant expect that to be back in my checking account for 5 - 7 business days because "thats how the system works". and they clearly see the charges, one if which is this phone for $179 plus tax and upgrade, but that doesnt change anything regarding me ACTUALLY GETTING THIS GOD DAMN PHONE.

i will be an att customer again by the end of today. tmobile could give me this phone for free with lifetime service, free hooker and a case of beer and id still tell them to go choke on a **** (male reproductive organ).
[HTC Excalibur] gospeed.racer:
wow, that sucks! When I went online it told me that I would be billed on my next cycle, so the debit thing never came up in my order. I have been fed up with Tmo and AT-T both, and went back to Tmo. AT-T (3 years ago) was a joke in my area for coverage and I gladly paid to be released from my contract early.

Unfortunately all the cell companies are bastards in one way or another. :mad:
[HTC Excalibur] Mikey:
All I know, i ordered it this morning :)
[HTC Excalibur] pfunkside:
It sounds like to me that Tmo was so caught up in the moment of an OS OS, that it forgot about how to deal with one of the major deal breakers for consumers. "CUSTOMER SERVICE" gixxum if think you just got gixxed

My contract is not available for upgrade till Nov. So, we shall wait and see what those schmo's will do in the coming months.

400,000 sold **** coulda been closer to that number after today but I'm sure Gixxum is not the only one that had a problem.

P.S. with the American Dollar the way it is Tmo sound like money grubbin whores.
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
so did i ....and all i have to show for it is a $600 hold on my checking account.
[HTC Excalibur] Mikey:
The way i see it is, get it unlocked and resell it, if i dont like it. lol
[HTC Excalibur] gixxum:
by the way (and i took this from hofo)...anyone notice this:

Subject to credit approval; two-year service agreement, qualifying rate plan and data plan required. Plus taxes and fees. Other upfront and monthly taxes and fees may apply, including an $18 device upgrade fee. Data: If your total data usage in any billing cycle is more than 1GB, your data throughput for the remainder of that cycle may be reduced to 50 kbps or less. Your data session, plan, or service may be suspended, terminated, or restricted for significant roaming or if you use your service in a way that interferes with our network or ability to provide quality service to other users. Some devices require specific data plans; if you do not have the right plan for your device, you may not be able to use data services. Some downloads, such as movies, music, and games, not included. Domestic use only. If you access the T-Mobile HotSpot network, your use is subject to the T-Mobile HotSpot Terms and Conditions, available at hotspot.t-mobile.com. See pricing, services, and devices brochures and T-Mobile's Terms and Conditions (including arbitration provisions) at T-Mobile.com, for rate plan information, charges for features/services, and restrictions and details.

im glad i didnt get in on this now...thats total ****. 1gb?

you guys have fun with your tmobile...ill be elsewhere.

all this hype turned out to be a bigh scam...$15 more for data thats capped...you mean i can pay more for less?@ SWEET! SIGN ME UP!

with another provider that is.