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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kwill:
im with notatreofan. i might be exchanging my fuze. damn thing hasnt locked a satellite since i got it and i know how to use it and all the little tricks from my kaiser days. tried two diff roms, two diff radios for the rapheal and one for the diamond. still no luck. ive let it run for about 10 mins during driving at still no lock. sats pop up for a second as green through gps test. then turn right back to yellow and this is on a CLEAR day! tried the tweaks mentioned, ALL of THEM and nothing. this blows and i cant take it anymore:D

**EDIT** so, freaking hilarious! i was driving home and decided id fire up gps test right before i left the building. started driving and about 3 mins later i look down and i FINALLY had 3 or more green bars. fired up gooplemaps and lock and tracked me in no time. not much lag if any either. anyways, safe to say it does work at least. and i cant attribute it to the radio i changed to (latest diamond), tweaks in this post, numerous gps tools or what.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
If you're looking for a free program with voice prompts, 3D moving map view, etc., take a look at AmazeGPS.com. I've only been using it for a few days and only on short trips where I already knew where I was going, but it seems to do the job very well. It does do real-time rerouting if you turn off the planned track. It seems to cover most of the world; the maps and POI database seem pretty good for my part of Massachusetts, at least (can't speak for anywhere else).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xeryus1907:
Hi Guys,

i have still lag problems.

my tp gets 7-8 fixes in 10-20 secs. but they disappear in a second then they appear again.everytime like this.Now i give up to use my internal gps, i use my globalsat bt gps receiver.

i ve tried all settings, tweaks, programs and some radios except roms but i couldnt have a solution yet.

what did you or people have my problem do?

you give up like me or you solve the problem?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ahh:
I'm using a Touch Diamond and have applied all the GPS tweaks, but no joy. There is still a lag of 5-6 seconds.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Upquark:
Sounds like you've got A-GPS enabled. Turn it off, that should at least solve the dropping signal problem. I'm not sure why you state you've still got lag problems though, because that's quite another issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xeryus1907:
A-GPS is disabled, not enabled.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
Yeah, me, too, and I still wasn't able to get a lock for ten minutes last night using GPS Test. It showed two satellites and never added any more. Clear night, and me standing outdoors in the same place where I often get a lock in a few seconds to a minute. (I did get a lock in a minute or so a couple of hours later.)

I don't know what the problem with GPS on the Fuze is, but it's NOT aGPS (or at least not the whole problem -- aGPS might make it worse or be a different problem, but turning off aGPS is clearly not the complete solution).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jouke74:
For all of you who did the following tweak and are not able to get a GPS signal / fix :

Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)

Please restore the value to 1000 or even 1500!

This tweak means that you're basically giving the GPS reciever 0.1 second to find a signal. If it's not there it's going to sleep again. Of course, your GPS program does not like that and is turning it on again... etc. It also means that if you have put the Polling at 250, that the GPS receiver will be turning on and off twice during one Poll. I cannot imagine this being good for the receiver.

With the values at 1000 or 1500 it will have 1 or 1.5 second to get a signal. Enough to receive data from any satellite. In speed it won't matter much. The tweaks that do most are the buffers and the Pollinginterval tweak.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Raymond77:
None of the tweaks made enough of a difference for Tom Tom7 to be of any use to me, so I switcehd to IGO 8 and the lag is now gone completely.

For the first time since I've owned it the Touch Pro is actually doing something well!:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pcborg:
Copilot 7 does not work

I will soon be trying the fixes from this forum on the touch pro, however I noticed the gps issue with the Copilot 7, which is allgegedly compatible with the touch pro. Its crap. Ages to get gps signal, then the signal is lost periodically every several seconds.

I'll update if any of the fixes does the job for me. This touch pro was bought < 2 months ago.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] abc73:
ATT Fuze

I am getting the Att version of HTC TP and i was wondering if any of these programs are mentioned here work on this phone or do i have to change the Rom..If so which Rom best fits to the purpose?

Thanks to all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] markmensch:
When you's worked 'for teh first few days', was that before the tweak listed above, or after?

mine goes in and out, but is useable (off and on) at highway speeds. rarely get a fix when walking, but it happens.

trying to decide whether to do teh tweak at the top of this thread.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] brent1f:
GPS Radio Rom Update - Fixed Sprint Mogle

I'm not sure this is related but I have a buddy who was having GPS lag and locking issues with his phone (Sprint Mogle - HTC PDA). He updated the Radio Rom today and his phone instantly locks on Sats, less than 3 seconds and there is no lag in any program (Live, Google Maps, Inav, etc.) we tested them all. I'm begining to believe that there is something to the radio rom and gps performance.

I applied the FUZE GPS fixes to my new FUZE and have effectively solved my issues.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willybilly:
Can you share with us which version of Radio Rom your buddy is using?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] P525Lover:
Can i disable A-GPS using registry?

i know it can be disable with advance config 3.2, But i wanna found out the exact key in registry.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
yes, you can disable it by changing the right registry key. Advanced config does nothing else.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] P525Lover:
so do you know the right address in registry to dosable A-GPS? i searched by resco registry tool and found some keys but i'm not sure.!

thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] brent1f:
I've asked, will let you know asap. If it helps he said it just came out a few days ago.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] brent1f:
Mogel Radio Rom Version 3.42.40
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willybilly:
The observation I made about lagging are as follows:

a. Phone in 3G mode very little lag.

b. Phone in Edge/GPRS mode some lagging.

It's worth trying out the Radio ROM that your friend is using.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
hey, sorry i dont have time to read through all 27 pages, but here is what i found:

- turn on gps test 1.04 (the cab is floating around here somewhere, search for it)

- Let it lock on to the satellites

- once it does, then open garmin, tomtom, etc.. (i've only tested with garmin)

- YOU MUST KEEP GPS TEST RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND!! if you turn it off, then turn on garmin, it'll keep losing signal...

as long as i have gps test running, i get no lag, and no issues.. i'm just wondering how this affects battery life; having two programs using the gps...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willybilly:
Never thought keeping gps test 1.04 running could solved the lag problem.

Will give it a try once i get hold of the gps test 1.04. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] drbf:
I did the same thing with GPSgate, reduced the lag but lost GPS sig every few min. I will try gps test 1.04 tomorrow

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
i havent tested it out extensively yet, so i dunno if this is a fix.. i'm actually going to pick up a friend from the airport, so i'll try using tomtom7 on the way there to see if its any good.. i'll update in half an hour or so.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] omaralt:
worked pretty good, actually got tomtom to work for once.. once it got a lock, it was solid :) so i guess i can use this as a temporary fix until somebody comes out with a permanent fix
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willybilly:
I don't seem to get gps test 1.04 working.

When I launch it what it does is it keep scanning from COM1 to COM9. Is that suppose to behave that way?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] trackhouse1:
Is there any way to test the gps driver in a Sptint Touch Pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
No, I don´t know the value. I prefer doing it via advanced config. give it a try.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] miwu:
Tried it with GPS Test 1.04 - No Success :-(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wmm:
You should set the "program port" in the External GPS settings to some port (COM4 is a popular choice) and then in the GPS Settings page of GPS Test set the same port, at 4800 baud.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aaswouw:
Tomtom knows it has a lag...

Hi all,

Last night I had to use my TomTom for a long drive and this is what I discovered:

My TomTom has a lag (4/5 seconds) but after a while it seems that TT is noticing this lag 'cause the screen goes to grey (like there is no gps signal, but there is) and stays this way for a while (between 10 sec and 1 minute). After that, colours & navigation come back and all of a sudden TomTom is acurate. The lag is totally gone!

But after a while, lag is coming back and a while later TomTom notices it again.

Weird huh?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
This worked for me...Thanks... I applied the GPS fixes and the .CAB file and then it seemed to get worse. After I changed these settings above, the GPS works everytime...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Upquark:
Sounds like AGPS turned on.... turn it off and try again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aaswouw:
Nope, AGPS is disabled (at least, that's what Advanced Config says...)

Or is this program not the way to turn of AGPS?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] livesoca:
Hello All,

Maybe this might be helpful for some. All testing was done on foot (pedestrian). No test was ever conducted in an automobile or other.

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Before the weekend I used to use TomTom Navigator v7.450.9028with the TomTom7 Western Europe 1GB 815.2024, and I've always encounterd the lag that everyone also encountered.

I've tried the settings that were posted on the first page, but still encountered the lag. However, after applying those settings, I usually got a solid fix between 45 seconds to 1 min 45 seconds. Hot start would be about +/- 45 seconds and cold start could last up to 1 min 45 seconds.

Yesterday I uninstalled TomTom v7.450.9028 and installed the TomTom Navigator 7.9.10 (9185). I also removed Western Europe 1GB 815.2024 and installed Western and Central Europe 2GB v725.1906 map.

After doing this still encountered the lag. I said to myself, let me just set part B of the fix posted on the first page to its defaults and also removed the entry instructed to create. I then restarted the phone.

On my way walking to work this morning I said let me test and see if I would still encounter the lag. To my surprise it was on point! I tested again walking home on my way from work and it was spot-on! It's a 2Km walk to work and back (each direction). I get a comple fix in 45 seconds - 1 min 45 seconds still, but it's on point.

When I'm at a corner, it shows me at a corner on the map. When I've crossed the street, it shows me crossing the street also.

This is information for my device.

TomTom was installed on my microSD card.

HTC Touch Pro

ROM: 1.90.401.1 WWE

ROM Date: 08/01/08

Radio Version: 1.02.25.19

Protocol Version: 52.33.25.17U
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Matthes42:
I´ve got the same configuration but I still have the lag.

What happens when you stop walking or start walking. How long does it take to show your walking speed? Isn´t there a delay of 2 or more seconds?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aaswouw:
Found out that Advanced Config is indeed the correct program to disable AGPS.

So if AGPS is disabeld, the question remains: what's happening to my TomTom?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hopper13:
It appears to me that among other things, TomTom uses a smoothing algorithm.

Not only does it sometimes take a few seconds to reach zero mph when I stop, at times it actually continues straight for a second after I've turned! This means two things in my mind: 1) The program has predicted where I will be in one or two seconds since the gps never sent it data saying that I had passed the intersection, and 2) That there is a one to two second lag in getting the information from the gps to the program. I have tried most of the registry edits suggested, but they have not changed this behavior. (AGPS is off, running version 7.9.10)

Just my .02
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sracercelica:
Is there any way that we could start a petition to send over to HTC so they can acknowledge the problem and hurry on working a fix??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mikempower:
somebody tried tomtom 6 on the rapahael? ihave lots of problem in fixing satellite with tt7,maybe the older version is better...can someone help me and show settings of a tomtom without a problem on this device?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Fallon:
TomTom Navigator 7.910... It's been working pretty good for me, however the other day when my wife was holding the phone in her lap in her Ford Escape it was getting the lag I keep hearing about. The phone/GPS works fine in the windshield mount on my Tacoma, and finally when we put the phone up on the dash, but was lagging horribly sitting in her lap a few feet back with much worse reception.

May or may not be applicable to anybody else, but couldn't hurt to make sure your phone is in a place where it can get good signal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] livesoca:
Hi Matthes42

After making a complete stop and proceed to continue walking it tool about 6 - 12 seconds before it displayed my walking speed.

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Hi
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pythonguy:
Same here, I followed a bunch of threads and tried different tweaks, even installing that stupid AT&T telenav garbage, and tried thethe .28 radio. The .28 radio worked a little better to lock but actually would hang my fuze after 15 minutes or so of using the GPS. I'm back to the stock .32 radio and this tweak (i set my SleepOnNoData to 1500) fixed the GPS up right, locks on every time now in less than 10 seconds from my indoor bedroom window.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] quiescent:
Here's an ironic response from HTC Singapore. They should come here and take a look.

New Response From [ Cathy Zhang (Singapore Support (Tech)) ]

Dear quiescent, Thank you for contacting HTC International. With regards to your query, the lagging problem may be also due to the software itself. Since we don't provide technical support on third party sofrwares, from personal suggestion, you may try to use another GPS software have a try like MAPKING which we recommend. Thank you.

Country	Singapore

Inquiry Information

Inquiry Type	Technical Support

Inquiry Description	GPS Lag problem. I'm using Garmin XT, I suppose I'm quite sure there's people complaining of this problem whereby your position lags about at least 5 - 10 meters away. Is this a hardware issue?

Issue Date & Time

2008/12/15 17:53
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] noellenchris:
Mine still seems a little slow to 3d fix, only when I haven't used the GPS in a few days. I do get lag w/Garmin Mobile XT. I used to have a little less w/my Hermes(8525) and ext. antenna. Thought the lag was from my ext antenna, but after dealing with the fuze, I think that the software is mostly the cause. I will experiment with the ext antenna and see what happens.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] daosis:
May be this can help

First of all, my touch pro almost never has a fix, even with all the tweaks and hacks and hard resets whatever. And quickgps feature has never worked for me until now. Then i noticed an interesting thing. At my home even google maps "my location" feature does not work - "Your coordinates are temporary not found". In fact in my town there are numerous places like that. But moving aside about 100 meters, google maps started to work and SO the quickgps. The fix was instant (less then in sec) in all my gps software - igo, ozi, gpstest etc. Now i understand why it didn't work before. There is no gps information in some parts of town, at my place for instance, from cellular towers or whatever quickgps uses (as agps). Now my gps works very accurately, with lag, but at least has a fix. Just use google maps "my location" until it starts to work. Then use quickgps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pcborg:
Copilot and HTC suck

Hi there, I have the HTC touch pro as well. It was not until I bought Copilot live 7 that I realised that the gps was crapola. Of course I believed the so called compatibility with the touch pro as advertised on the Copilot website. Of course no useful solution was offered from co-pilot support, just a why don’t you try to install again solution. Thoroughly useless. Not to mention that email support is achingly slow.

After I read this and other sites, I realised that there is problem with the HTC touch pro (not all, but a significant amount it seems), so why the so called compatibility on the Copilot site?

Ok anyway I gave up on the HTC for gps, and try to install on my N95 8GB, no luck, so I talk to support (expensive as hell given the nice long wait before anyone can answer), no useful solutions for it.

So, sick of the cost of calls I go back to email support, slow and irritating as it is, and what do I learn? I need to use the Copilot Central desktop software to prepare it for the N95... I ask them to tell me how to get it (it comes free as part of the products they ship), he tells me, oh you need to pay £15 for that!!! That the product they sell for download through Handango is CRIPPLED without this software that comes as standard with the shipped product.

Copilot can kiss my a**, and so can HTC.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] crimo:
To all HTC TOUCH Pro Users with GPS lag problem,

after 2 months of tweaking, hacking, searching and endless tries, i found my solution.

A new Radio - see Thread below.

[RADIO]Raphael Radio Thread - Latest Raphael 1.08.25.20M1 [8 Dec 2008]

Original shipped Australian Rom - better Battery consumtion and 3G reception

Satelite fix within 20-30 seconds after coldstart and ca. 5 seconds after warmstart. Very accurate possition and indoor reception close to the windows, what never worked before on my device.

My recommendation to all of you !
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] quiescent:
been there, done that. doesn't fix it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] crimo:
Give it a try,

hardreset your device or better flash an original shipped rom as me an then flash the radio. You´ll wonder i guarantee !!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] misfitwrx:
i just bought a fuze yesterday and tried to use the gps with google maps, i have not downloaded att nav, or anything else. the first couple of trys with gps and google maps it would not find a single satellite however after a few trys it got a lock and after that it was lightning quick getting a fix and really accurate... it seems like the gps unit actually needs to get warmed up or something now i have left it alone to charge for a few hours and its not getting a lock at all. this happened earlier and eventually it locked on and was fast again.. really strange at least its all software trouble i think. that means there is a fix for it
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] crimo:
I had the same impressions with my original o2 Diamond Pro warming up the gps unit, but since i have flashed an original HTC Rom and the new Radio mentioned above it works perfect without warming it up!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willybilly:
Just downloaded the radio rom an hour ago.

Took a drive and tested it using Garmin XT. Yes, it does work!!!

No more lagging and don't have to hard reset. Thanks a bunch for sharing .....8)))
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] m4rc3l1n0:
which radio version is working for your fuze?

28? 32?

or do you have any recommendation which one to try first?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willybilly:
[RADIO]Raphael Radio Thread - Latest Raphael 1.08.25.20M1 [8 Dec 2008]
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cmloo:
I reverted back original ROM with this radio. Unfortunately lag still exist. In fact its worst than with ROMeOS 1.51 (must be due to the GPS One tweak)

Original Rom : 1.90.707.4 WWE

Radio : 1.08.25.20M1

Sounded too good to be true but sigh.......back to custom ROM and 25.19 radio
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] drjim:
Conflicting GPS fix recommendations

As with many Fuze users, I'm having problems getting my phone's GPS to get a location fix. I found two separate threads on xda-developers that give very different advice (I'm posting this comment on both).

One recommends the following:

1. disable A-GPS

2. disable GPS logging

3. logfile name must be empty

4. old logfile name must be empty

5. maximum size of logfile must be 0

6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt

One recommends:

* Assisted GPS: Enabled

* Log file: \windows\GPSLogFile.txt

* Old log file: \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt

* Max. log file size: 32768

Any thoughts?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sndtubes:
Forgive me for being stupid, but...... I'm unsure if the radio you refer to is the entire radio or just the GPS radio? Reason I ask is that I have a Sprint CDMA TP and I'm fully aware that you cannot flash a GSM radio into it. However, if this radio firmware is just for the GPS, shouldn't it work on any of them including the Sprint model? Please clarify. Thanks a bunch. I'd sure be lost completely without these forums!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] crimo:
Hey,

special GPS Radios doesn´t exist. Thats allways the entire radio. And you can´t flash a GSM Radio on a CDMA version !
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mjj2332:
My Raphael is running on PROVEN rom.

It get a fix very fast, very good gps signal reception, the gps lag is still there...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] maw:
Lost GPS

Dudes

I lost my GPS! Only Google Maps can find it, no other program! Can someone post me their complete registry file ASAP for the GPS ?? I think something corrupted my registry file. Thanks!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] maw:
Never mind... I hard resetted my device and reinstalled everything
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Sleuth255:
I'm really interested to see what this looks like. Anyone want to post a vid?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] COF23:
Better than TOMTOM one XL-s

Just got the Fuze last night. Hardspl it and Running NATF rom 3.2. Decided to do a side by side comparison with my stand alone GPS ( tom tom one XL-s ). Fuze running Tom Tom Mobile Navigator. Set up both gps to go same place and running them at 200% speed. Started them in same time ( actually the stand alone had head start by sec.) GUESS WHO WON.... THE FUZE!!! It arrive at the location 4 MINS. faster than the stand alone. No lag or what so ever On the Fuze. Everything was buttery smooth.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Ronaldob:
I've made almost all the steps above, but I don't know how to create the registry "MaxBufferSize". Could you help me?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gemballa2:
My GPS is still not working, and its starting to tick me off.

I followed all the steps listed, however, I could not delete the \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt file. Not sure if thats why its not working

I installed VisualGPSce and it shows that there are 7 satelites in view, but it will not lock on to any of them. Any one have any ideas why?

It's a Touch Pro from Telus if that makes any difference.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Smaniac:
After the changes suggested my lock time went from 30-40 seconds to 10-15, that alone makes a huge difference.

About that lag I couldn't test it yet, because I always use the GPS with the phone under the dashboard, so the signal isn't very strong anyway. But it seems more stable.

I have to buy a windshield mount to be able to test it.

I suspect it's all because of the poll interval. I'm a little worried about battery life after that, but that's a minor issue since I have a car charger.

Thank you very much for your tips, they were great!