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[Shift Development] joy.d:
#### sorry ### posting wrong, it´s for older subnotebooks ####

see here some hints:

http://www.dvnation.com/microatapics.html

I see, the Fujitsu-Siemens (Fujitsu) Lifebooks P7120, P1610 ans so on have the same connector. A micro-ATA connector. I found on Ebay some 32 Gigabyte SSD´s with micro-ata connector. But no 64GB. Maybe there is a small adapter cable to attach SSD´s with ZIF /PATA to micro-ATA...

here the adapter:

http://shop.ebay.com/sis/_W0QQ_kwZN...1Q2e8Q22Q20CFQ2fIDEQ20hardQ20driverQ20adapter

http://cgi.ebay.at/1-8-ZIF-harddisk...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:1|39:1|240:1318

so you can use cheap 64/128GB 1,8" SSD with ZIF Connector.

Modding Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook P7230 to ZIF SSD

http://www.leog.net/fujp_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12497

only question: there a 2 Versions: SATA and PATA Harddisks with the same ZIF connector. what works?
[Shift Development] King Reeky:
Waiting for my MTRON SSD to be delivered

I had ordered a MTRON Mobi3000 32GB 1.8" SLC SSD around 3 weeks ago for my Shift. Spoke with the supplier yesterday and they say it will be another week. This has a ZIF2 connector, not sure how different this is to a plain ZIF connector... we will see.

Very interested in boot times. I put Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs on my shift and have boot times of 20~25 seconds with the HDD, expecting sub 5 with the MTRON.

Paying $410 AUD delivered for the SSD
[Shift Development] hcping:
as far as i know for MTRON MOBI 3000 , zif ---> zif2 for mobi can be refered as 8mm-->5mm.HTC shift use ZIF2 for mtron.

japan got a lot of mobi 3000 32gb slc zif2 around 2man yen.

i plan to get one soon. but it seems the 64gb for zif 2 from others brand out too.
[Shift Development] hcping:
here is the demo for htc shift for mobi 3000 32gb slc!!

i seen this page long time ago though ,just forgot to link it here.

http://travelx.org/htc_shift/htc_shift.html

benchmarks also got!! use the google translator to translate it.but pictures said everything ^_*
[Shift Development] kakemann:
Anyone knows where the compact flash card on one of the picture is from?

Is it from Snapvues internal storage?

If it is it would be easy to change it with a larger card and then be able to get a lot more storage on WM6 side?

Maybe I'm far off, but I just got the idea. Sorry if it has already been covered before
[Shift Development] BoSJo:
Kakemann

He wanted to use that storage card as a HD, but the cable was to short.

It's not a default item in the Shift.

If you search for naked shift or something like that, you will find pictures of if
[Shift Development] joy.d:
bosmen means, that the WM6 side has fixed memory inside mounted, not changeable, the compact flash to zif adapter with 32GB compact flash was a Idea to have a cheap HDD replacement of the slow 40GB HDD from HTC, but there is the originaly mounted ZIF cable to short.

Im shure, the idea with CF Card is to slow.. (but a good cheap Idea ;-) :-)
[Shift Development] King Reeky:
Just received my MTRON SSD

Just received my MTRON SSD after waiting about a month!

Will install it tonight so very keen to see vista boot times...
[Shift Development] hcping:
is ur vista business or home? home will definitely fly u out of windows (fast!) :}
[Shift Development] King Reeky:
SSD Vista boot time

Well have installed the MTRON SSD and restored the original Vista Business image with Origami and the MS Office trial. Now I am sure somewhere in Vista there is a utility to tell you the boot time, but I can't find it. So going by the unscientific watching the clock method of measurement it takes 2:05 to go from the 'press del to enter the bios' etc screen to finishing loading Origami (who actually is using that thing?). From memory that was taking 3:30 before hand.

Vista is really twitchy now. Very responsive to input - that is going to take a bit of getting used to.
[Shift Development] hcping:
can u post the benchmark read /write for mtron ssd ? wana know more the performance...
[Shift Development] koala996:
you can look in my thread about HDD comparison for read performances.

any idea of another program than HD Tach for read/write perfs?
[Shift Development] hcping:
use this on shift please? coz japan here use this to mark ssd
[Shift Development] koala996:
look on the screen in HDD comparison... he posts the result of HD Tach.

The site announce 100MB/s in read and write... it's about 85MBs for read.. I guess it is about 80MB/s for write :)
[Shift Development] joy.d:
this model from samsung fits to - or not?

Samsung MCCDE64GEMPP-01A

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=161&partnum=MCCOE64GEMPP
[Shift Development] BoSJo:
Host Transfer Rate	Up to ATA5 UDMA Mode4 (66MHz)

Maximum Sequential Read Rate	57MB/s

Maximum Sequential Write Rate	38MB/s

wouldn't buy that one.....
[Shift Development] joy.d:
oki, but it fits into shift or? ;-)

what is the cheapest Mtron that fits to shift do you find in Europe? Any Idea?

btw: there is a new firmware from mtron:

http://www.mtron.net/English/Customer/firmware_019.asp
[Shift Development] koala996:
I think that it will not wot work .. because it is only up to ATA5 and shift needs ATA6-7. but it needs to be confirmed by someone else
[Shift Development] koala996:
it's still twice the perfs of the original one :) but it's not compatible because of it does not support PATA 6 & 7.

Mtron have listed a 64GB SSD in 1.8".... should be interesting :)
[Shift Development] joy.d:
the next generation of MTRON´s 1,8" PATA ZIF2 HDD should work on HTC shift, Dell 430 and HP 2510 Notebook :-)
[Shift Development] joy.d:
btw. there are some other SSD´s with same Formfactor:

little cheaper and slower:

company photofast Modell G-Monster

:-)
[Shift Development] aquasesh:
Its only 24 000 yen (US$ 240)

http://www.flashmemory-japan.com/photofast/gmonster18.html

Its quiet fast for its size. I hope Photofast will soon release one with integrated DDR2 cache.

I will buy one and see how it goes.
[Shift Development] joy.d:
hmm, but the question is, is the Mtron 64Gbyte 1,8" SSD that are anounced not faster? (germany distributor tells me something about ~300-400€
[Shift Development] koala996:
perfomances of the 32GB... the 64GB might be even better

Single Level Cell (SLC)

Capacity: 32GB

Casing: Aluminum

Performance:

Sustained Read: 100MB/s

Sustained Write: 100MB/s

Access time: less than 0.1ms !

Warranty: 3 years
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
64 SSD successfully installed

Last Saturday I installed a PhotoFast G-Monster 1.8" ZIF 64 GB SSD.

It's about 200 EUR here in Germany for end users.

The ZIF connector is a bit farer away from the edge. So I cut away a bit of the rubber and put it at the other end. Not a real problem.

First "try" was alread successful :-)

Performance Test:

Vista Services disabled:

- Superfetch

- Search

(Antivirus)

Task deactivated:

- Defrag

--------------------------------------------------

CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

--------------------------------------------------

Sequential Read : 78.616 MB/s

Sequential Write : 31.385 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 77.570 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 22.431 MB/s

Random Read 4KB : 8.566 MB/s

Random Write 4KB : 1.196 MB/s

Test Size : 100 MB

Date : 2009/04/23 14:47:42

Cool!

Resuming a Windows 2000 Pro VM in VMware Player (3 GB HD Image, 128 MB RAM) takes just 20 seconds. Suspending need 18 seconds till VMware Player vanishes. Great!

I heard from the distributor that a 128 GB version will be available next month. But I have no need for a further upgrade.

Oliver
[Shift Development] joy.d:
Hi Oliver,

nice :-) Do you shoot photos from your SSD installation? Maybe I will wait for Mtron´s 64GB Version, the 64GB SSD in always not on the market. :-(

Where you buy your 64GB Monster within Germany?

best greetings joy
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
Hi Joy,

no, I did not make any photos, because they could not be better than those already posted here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Clio

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-501346.html

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...omFrame=N&application_id=542917&fcc_id='NM8CL

You can buy it e. g. here:

http://direkt.jacob-computer.de/_artnr_199561.html?status=1

Oliver
[Shift Development] joy.d:
Thank you :-)

here a german Information about the new 1,8" PATA ZIF2 128GB SSD von MTron :-)

http://www.computerbase.de/news/har.../2008/februar/erste_18-zoll-ssd_128_gb_mtron/

and here in english:

http://www.mtron.net/english/PressRoom/PressRoom.asp?sid=PressRoom&xact=view&idx=171
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
128 GB will not be very cheap...

http://maxxxware.de/uvp/aktuell_photofast.pdf

So currently I am very fine with my 64 GB so far - at least in my HTC Shift.

For my Core 2 Duo subnotebook (Asus U1F, 2,5 GB RAM, Centrino ULV) I will have to wait for 128 GB as I need the default 100 GB Toshiba HDD space.

Unfortunately the new MLC Intel X18-M oder X25-M only have micro SATA.

Becase of its 11 pipelines it "boosts" all other SSDs away (but also its price):

Seq.: 230 MB/sec. READ, write: 37

512 KB random READ/WRITE: 153 / 36 MB/s

4 KB random: 13 / 16 MB/s (!!!!!!!!)

[ dreaming off ]
[Shift Development] aquasesh:
You just have to buy the 128GB Photofast in Japan. I guess it will be around 40 000 yen (320Euro)

Those things are not so expensive here...Unfortunatly its not yet available here. But ive seen the SATA at idealo.de for 328 Euro
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
Yes, the prices in the link were recommended retail prices by the distributor.

As an IT pro (and dealer) I bought mine "a little" cheaper :-)

But even the consumer retail online "street" price e. g. at jacob-computer.de (see link above) is 177,20 € compared to 259 € ERP.

So we are not very far away from 320 € in Japan, esp. if you remind the 19% VAT (+ customs) in Germany.

Gruß

Oliver
[Shift Development] aquasesh:
Well, KAMPFPREISE, can only be beneficial for us.

I usually buy my crap in Akihabara. But they are

not always cheap or dont carry what I need.

I will get the 64 for now and see what happens in

a while.

Gruesse

Rene
[Shift Development] racingkoala:
Hi Oliver,

Did you notice improved battery time with the ssd? Less heat?

Thanks,

Luis
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
Hi Luis,

I did not measure it, but it seems to remain at less than 3 hours. And after some time the fan still starts. Maybe with lower rotation speed and thus less noise. Anyway the Shift is not very noisy.

BUT: upgrading to Windows 7 RC1 in combination with this SSD gave me a "new" device with doubled performance. Furthermore I needed the additoinal storage capacity. Moving to the SSD I did NOT copy (using Acronis) the hidden recovery partition. In case of a crash I have an Acronis True Image Home image of the HD. Or you can use Vista or Windows 7 PC Complete Backup which however cannot exclude directories as Acronis can (such as \temp or \VMware Virtual Machines or \VirtualPC ... :-).

Oliver
[Shift Development] lidan25:
Samsung 128gb 1.8" sata-ii mlc ssd solid state drive

hi idid find this 1 in E-bay will this work on the Shift ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...BSS&itu=ISS%2BUCI%2BSI&otn=4#ebayphotohosting
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
No, it will not, because it has SATA connectors. The HD in the Shift has a ZIF connector.

Regards

Oliver
[Shift Development] lidan25:
ok than what 1 shoud i buy if i want a 128 gb ?

is thare any chep 1 that i can buy ?

can any 1 tall me how do i instel it in to the SHIFT ?

in info are pict's on how to do it ?

thank

Lidan
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
Hi Lidan,

see the dismantling guide at

http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-501346.html

To buy e. g. a Photofast G-Monster ZIF SSD 1.8 which is the one I use in my Shift

simply ask Google to find vendors in your country. Where do you live?

Best regards from Germany

Oliver
[Shift Development] lidan25:
thanks

i live in israel
[Shift Development] joy.d:
new 64gb Photofast SSD with 100/100MB transferrate:

http://www.photofast.tw/forum/page01.asp?id=105

or:

RunCore 128GB Pro 1,8" 5mm PATA Zif Solid State Drive SSD
[Shift Development] mdkia:
does anyone know if this will be ok for the shift?

http://www.kingspec.com/solid-state-disk-products/ssd-18zif-1128mj.htm
[Shift Development] premier69:
i am really itching to know about the battery life difference "upgrading" to the SSD type of HDD.
[Shift Development] joy.d:
@premier: forget my private answer, i have a look to my HP2510p Notebook: I cannot update Mtrons firmware into HP 2510p Notebook, into Shift it works.

i have installed the 5mm mtron 32 GB zif2 SSD. Performance is really fast for ATA UDMA 6 Mode. (ca. 70 MB/sec) What you should do before install a OS to the shift:

check Firmware of Mtron and if older then 0.20R1 flash the firmware (see Mtron homepage) to the newest Firmware.

I can´t see any problems with more power consumation with Mtrons SSD, (I read some other articels about much power consumation with this Modell) Maybe, Windows 7 have a better Power Management, so i can´t see a difference to the old HDD.

I use same SSD (but the 8mm Version) into a HP 2510p Subnotebook, here is the same, really fast and i think better lifetime within WXP.

only sadness: I use Safegard Easy 4.11 as full Harddisk Encrytion with preboot authentification, and so my performance shrink to 25 MB/sec.

Maybe it becomes better with newer versions of HDD encryption, e.g. Truecrypt, that use read Ahead Caching, what is better for performance with slc ssd and no cache onside.

For much more performance you must modding your windows XP a little bit for SSD use.

one Modifications are:

- disable Prefetch

- disable the smart defragmentation tool into WXP

- disable ctfmon if you use Office 200x + (see google)

- disable Giro Sensor tools if you use (against HDD crash)

and some other things, (but i forget it ;-)
[Shift Development] xdaShifter:
I see no difference in battery life

I am very pleased with my Photofast 64 GB ZIF SSD and use Windows 7 on my Shift. But in fact I did not notice any change in battery lifetime. However I use a lot of (encrypted) offline files (some 10'000) that need sync and indexing. Without SSD with nearly no seek time this wouldn't be real fun. Even with an SSD the first start on a day (including Anti Virus updates and Windows Update search) takes its time...

But if you "prepare" yourself booting and "leaving alone" the Shift at home for 30 minutes before you take it with you for "field use" and just put it to standby it's OK. Changing the hardware (i. e. e. g. switching on/off WLAN == plugging in/out the WLAN adapter) or changing networks (WLAN login) also takes its time to process (CPU load @100% for a minute or so). But this has nothing to do with the SSD.

I just learned NOT to use the Shift e. g. to setup external WLAN cameras or devices, switches, routers etc.. For such tasks I use an Asus Core 2 Duo subnotebook (U1F) with a lot more performance.

The Shift - even with SSD - remains quite slow. However, I even can startup a Win2K VM with VMware Player for remote assistance (Cisco VPN, RDP, VNC,...). And THAT's really cool to be able to do that without the need to carry a bag over your shoulder all the day you need to be "online in case of emergency".
[Shift Development] unapproachable2kx:
Hello can someone confirm if this will work?

32GB PhotoFast G-Monster 1.8" SSD, 1.8" ZIF SSD [PN = PF18Z32GSSDZIFV2 ] 54.0mm x D71.0mm x H5.0mm ZIF.

max read: 85MB/sec

max write: 50MB/sec

suitable for most laptop with a 1.8" ZIF HDD

(but will not work with: Sony Vaio TZ and Fujitsu U2010 / 820)

thanks
[Shift Development] joy.d:
should work, but mtron´s 5mm 32GB SSD is faster :-)
[General Topics] xp99:
It's been more then 6 months, and the developers behind titanium backup still have not excluded media storage from being backed up in android 11.

When you try to back it up, it never completes. If you force close titanium backup, and try to open it again, it never finishes opening. And you gotta reboot your phone so you can open titanium backup again.

This is a known problem and because of this, I can't use the schedule task that backups up newly installed and updated apps as it doesn't use the filter I've set to exclude media storage, and tries to back it up.

This was mentioned first on here in September 2020:

https://xdaforums.com/t/titanium-backup-android-11.4160977/

And here are the changes made to android 11 that seem to cause this:

Storage updates in Android 11 | Android Developers

developer.android.com

It's unbelievable that an update to exclude media storage on android 11 automatically has not been released by the titanium backup developers.

And yes, I did purchase the pro version.
[General Topics] galaxys:
Agree, many of us have the TB Pro and haven't seen an update in ages from them!
[General Topics] hnz101:
Is there an valid alternative to titanium backup pro?

Which is still actively maintained?
[General Topics] DBuffon:
That's strange, because it works for me: I have made a label, added all the apps to it except Media Storage 11 and created a scheduled backup adding this label, and the backup procedure will correctly ignore Media Storage and skip it.

The only drawback is that you have to modify the label adding newly installed apps to the list whenever you install a new app on the phone.
[General Topics] hnz101:
Btw: I switched to Swift Backup Premium and am very satisfied with it.
[General Topics] dr.ketan:
Try this

Copy TitaniumBackup folder on root of storage →

In Titanium → menu → preference → backup folder location → select Storage provider file system (click here) → selectDocumenProvide storage → it will open file explorer, set root of Int storage - and then select allow.

Now click on "detect" and select that showing backup location.
[General Topics] Compass Linux:
https://www.xda-developers.com/oandbackupx-android-backup-app/

OAndBackupX works fine here and it's free.

Compass.
[General Topics] patrickneil:
Any updates on this issue since June? Did the one workaround of copying the folder to the root do anything?
[General Topics] munky-head:
Starting to feel like TiBa has been neglected. Found this thread on Google and was disappointed to see that nothing happened since it got posted.
[General Topics] 37_:
an alternative for TB: Migrate
[General Topics] ElCoyote_:
Hi @DBuffon Could you give a little more detail on how to create a 'Label'? did you mean to create a new Filter and unselect Media Storage 11? I've been experiencing those 'hangs' on LOS 18.1 (Android 11) where schedules which worked fine in TB now hang on 'Media Storage 11'. I just made a new Label with everything but Media Storage and I will see how it goes.
[General Topics] AllGamer:
Same here, I've been a loyal Titanium Backup supporter since its beginning many many years ago like way back to when Android was still 2.x version.

TB has evolved into a must have tool ever since to migrate from phone to phone, it's too bad it has been neglected since the last few version of Android OS.

So far so good, I'm liking it for the simplicity, but it leaves much to be desired coming from TB Pro, using OAndBackupX is like a major downgrade :P
[General Topics] Grant54:
Not sure what you mean by "root that app is handled with." Canary Magisk is the only root that works on 11, and I wasn't even on the beta 11.
[General Topics] gittra:
Hello,

ran into the same problem and didn't want to abandon TB.

The filter discussion led me to a working solution (on LOS 18.1):

1) Menu-Filter: on the bottom create a new Label and only add Media storage 11.

2) Check reverse/exclude labels

3) Save filter

4) Edit your schedule task and select the filter created above.

Works like a charm for me...

Good luck
[General Topics] 3mel:
it's got system app disable/freeze batch restore and backup, scheduled backups. that's the basics covered, plus it works
[General Topics] The_Keeper86:
Unfortunately this didn't work for me. Doing the scheduled task it still starts on backing up 0% Media Storage 11 :/
[General Topics] gittra:
If it really _starts_ with backing up Media Storage, then maybe you missed point 2? Did you reverse the newly created label? (Medienspeicher11 only labels/contains Media Storage 11)

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[General Topics] d@z984:
#4 This is a workaround.

#6 It does not work.

#14 and #17 Do not work in schedule task.

It works! You need to save filter too lol.
[General Topics] gorthon:
Why would you still want to backup with Titanium on Android >=11 anyways? I just had a full loss of my data partition and restoring with Titanium on Android 11 was a nightmare: Maybe for a third of the apps it still works like in the old days, but for another third data restore doesn't work and you have to reconfigure everything again. Even worse, for the last third, the apps don't even start, for many of them clearing data didn't work, they still wouldn't start. I had to completely uninstall und reinstall them.

Bottom line was: It would have cost me less time to just reinstall everything manually. And TB was not able to restore much of the settings (like user accounts, BT connections etc), but that has been the case for quite a while.
[General Topics] zonexo:
Yes, I have exactly the same problem. And I am restoring from the exact same rom where I backed up from. Will try the alternatives given.
[General Topics] rolex0815:
I upgraded a device from Android 10 to 11. First saved everything with TB and then a clean flash of Android 11, Gapps and Magisk.

I can confirm the findings above, that TB is failing in many cases to restore app+data.

But then I had the idea of installing the apps from Play Store and just restore their data only with TB. That worked in much more cases. Apps which integrate a little "deeper" to the system like adding an account as Twitter does or Instagram can't be restored.

It'a a pity that one of the most powerful apps on Android received its last update end of 2019.
[General Topics] wirespot:
What has worked for me is unpacking the .apk from the Titanium backup (the .apk.gz files, they're compressed with gzip), installing the .apk directly, then restoring just the data.

This won't work for apps where the version you had in the backup wasn't upgraded for 11 and doesn't target the correct API (you won't be able to install the .apk). An alternative for them is to go back to the old phone (if you still have it), upgrade the app then re-export it.
[General Topics] przemhb:
There's somewhere a setting to disable scanning apps installed over USB. If you disable this TB will be able to finish its restore operations.
[General Topics] Guan Yu:
is there any backup app can backup apks ? apks restore with titanium backup seem to be broken
[General Topics] dahawthorne:
July 2022 and Media Storage still stalls a TB backup. It definitely does look as if the TB developers have given up on maintaining it if they haven't done anything about this in 18 months.

In fact it's worse than that. Google Play shows the last update as November 2019, almost 3 years. It seems to me that its only relevant function now is to allow me to freeze unwanted system apps.
[General Topics] christiebunny:
Has anyone tried contacting the developers?
[General Topics] [Lemmy]:
Same here on Android 12 and 13. Contacted the TB devs just now, lets see if they still exist.
[General Topics] Jim44:
Hi all, I also have TB Pro. I've had it for years. I recently updated to Android 11 and rooted it so I thought I'd do a TB backup last night, 10/30/2023. I saw it stopped at the Media file (14-1099...) . I tried to just backup the media file with no luck. I rebooted my phone and then froze the media file. Then I found I was locked out of internal storage and could run TB. I connected to my laptop and it showed the device was empty. All other apps work though so it's a permission thing. I have a manual backup on my laptop so i figured I'd just do a factory reset. I did it and it booted into TWRP. I rebooted from there and it booted up normally to my rooted phone and full access to internal memory again. I'm surprised how that fixed my problem. I guess I won't use TB Pro till they update it. Oneplus6T, Rooted Oxygen 11,1122. Jim