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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
people are having problems with 0.7.104, so here is a link if you need to downgrade

0.6.97

I will be looking into the problem tonight, I am not really sure what broke as this new build still works for me, if you want to help debug send me a copy of your "\Windows\HTCHomeSettings.xml" and "\Program Files\M2DC\HTCHomeSettings-BACUP.xml"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
I updated to the new manilla and the new customizer and I can't get it to work. Ill go back to the old one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
actually, the first time I changed the program's rows to 9 rows and to 5 columns and it wouldn't work. I restored my backup, then changed to 9 rows first. Applied. then di 5 columns. applied. It works now. maybe there is a bug if you apply them both at the same time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
n/m. Then I went back into the program and when I pressed themes, it said version .6xx had a bug in it, and it proceeded to restore my backup theme. What did the old version have to do with the new one? I did a fresh install, plus, I already made a backup.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] theelite:
nm..same issue that 1999TL had. looks like it is the themeing feature that is screwing it up. once you click on the themes tab and it backups your files, then no good.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
Yah but the theme settings just put you in a continuous loop of backing up.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] theelite:
mine actually finishing backup, but then once I go back to touchflo I have the contacts loading problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
Ok. It's not your build that is causing problems. It's the way update 18 is installed apparently b/c I just installed the old customizer and it doesn't work with themes also. I keep getting the tap here for touchflo message.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cacahahacaca:
I'm using the latest version of M2DC.

I tried adding the OperatorWidget and removing the SettingsWidget. When I clicked on Apply, the program just hangs with the busy icon and I had to do a soft reset.

The phone restarted with no M2D running. I went into M2DC again and deselected the SettingsWidget but didn't enable OperatorWidget (I assumed that maybe my ROM, TESS 2.5, did not have that widget so maybe that had caused the freeze). After hitting Apply, the program froze again.

Any ideas why this may be happening? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
thanks for the heads up, I just did a hard reset and I am installing everything fresh right now, I will get back to you all tonight on a new build

with all of the hard resets I have been performing lately I gotta say sashimi is definitely one of the most useful programs I use
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
Ha, Hell yah for sashimi. I just started using it. It's awesome. Err, so new build tonight? I just hard reset so I could use the old manilla and old customizer. DOH. Maybe your new release will work with the old manilla as well, b/c the old manilla worked just fine for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
no guarantee on a new build tonight, but I will put it out there if i gets done.

I finished installing everything and I see the problem... I am not reading the xml files the right way... plus I am not applying themes the right way either (launcher, weather , and contact are not getting updated right now) It all has to do with the way I parse, read, and write the XML, and I am just doing some of it wrong right now... so I am going to try to make all the needed changes tonight if I can.

The new build should have no problem with an older version of M2D, it will most likely have another nag screen that requires you to backup your old default theme and re-enable theme support because I don't think I am going to use the "..\M2DC\ActiveTheme" folder anymore for storing themes. I am just going to start unpacking theme files to where ever they were located on your device when you first enabled theme support. maybe later I will figure otu all that is needed to fully change the path of the theme files and add that as a feature to M2DC, but for now it is just too much of a headache to try to figure it out.

Look back here at around 23:30 or so Central Daylight time tonight and maybe I will have the new build up, if not tonight I will probably be up by Friday night.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cacahahacaca:
After using M2DC, now my TouchFlo says "Tap here to launch TouchFLO", and after I tap it says "Launching TouchFLO..." for a while before going back to "Tap here to launch TouchFLO".

I've tried uninstalling M2DC, resetting my phone, installing a CAB for a couple different M2D themes, etc. Any ideas?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aeratos:
thx for your hard work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rabidguardian:
How do you add programs to your program section and your contacts section?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] BzeBwoi:
Its simple really..

For 4 program columns edit your htchomesettings.xml with notepad on ur pc and change value="3" to "4" under

<LauncherWidget>

<Property name="IDLAUNCHERWG_COLUMN" id="3" value="3" />

Then copy to device and from device to windows folder.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 1999TL:
I'm glad you found the problem. I installed the old manilla(update 17) and I tried the new customizer with it, but it wasn't working right either.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
I created some themes files by installing the theme with the cab or zip, then enabling theme support and letting M2DC creates the theme zip. Then i renamed the zip by the themes name, and so on one by one. I did this with 4 themes i like with the last former build of M2DC. Then i upgraded the the last version of M2DC, and moved all themes to the new themes folder. I tried to just switch themes, but the theme does not apply correctly. The first one loaded without the widget tabs functioning, and it froze on the people tab. Then i tried to disable the people tab, softreset, reenable it and so forth without success. Another theme loaded with an empty settings page.

The only way to switch themes resulted to be:

Disable touchflow plug in on settings/home

Switch the theme

Reenable the touchflow plug in

This way the themes work without problems for me, even the people tab and the settings tab. I will check more in detail if everything is ok and will report later.

Hope this helps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fktsndr:
Question

Is there any way to replace Calendar to Tasks on the main screen?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] caballero600:
I have the same problems changing to any other themes:

-launcher buttons don't update

-camera buttons in photo page don't update

-google maps page background doesn't update (world map)

-and also the whole Sound profiles page doesn't update

Other things, more or less, work correctly.

Thanks!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twolf:
I tried this, still no go...

:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] le55:
May you add settings for columns and rows for the tab people as launcher Setting ? :D

tnx
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jiles:
I've got the same problem. It'll be great to fix it in the next release:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
yeah as people are reporting M2DC is broken at the moment... there is no version of M2DC that supports themes with the latest M2D, I am hoping to have a new build up in the next few hours, it all depends on what all I can figure out
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] frankbalzan:
Tasks request

Please do try to add an active tasks tab or notification in homescreen regards tasks!

I really need that... Thanks and keep it up!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
Oct-2-2008

v0.8.111

* tried to fix all errors

* latest theme supports were broken due to my not parsing the xml correctly

* this version should work with the latest M2D binaries and the old ones

* I have only tested the new M2D package

* there might be some issues with clock enabling/disabling on themes... these

will probablly remain until a skinner tells me what they want the proper

action to disable clocks to be

overall I am a little unsure of this build, so much t test and I won't have time to test it all until this weekends, so proceed at your own risk (everything should be and to be fixed via a restore backup)

please test and let me know what works and what doesn't...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
i have a n00b question... On the previous releases of Manilla 2D, On my email widget, when I got a new email I would be able to see the first couple of line from the email, on this latest build it just says "Click to view message", is this because of the hard reset and I changed a setting when reprovisioning my gmail account? Or is it something to do with the latest M2D build?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twolf:
Clock skins are a little difficult to antecipate.

You cant simply choose analog or digital because there are diferent sizes and placings of the pngs in the xml...

The app should just read the hole clock area in the xml and accept the new files.

;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario23:
I had noticed that too...though not with all emails so it might have something to do with the message length?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] theelite:
Hey mpenguin, this release solved the problems I was having. thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
yeah, that's what I try to do for the most part, I read the values for everything for the <HomeWidget> node and apply all those settings to the HTCHomeSettings.xml file in windows, but the problem comes in with this. How do you hide a clock image? Some people comment out the whole node in the <ImageList> , others just rename the target from *.bmp to *.bmpx

Right now M2DC can detect both, but will only implement hiding a clock via changing a *.bmp to *.bmpx, and it will only re-show a clock by changing *.bmpx to *.bmp, so if a clock item has been commented out it will not get re-enabled

That seems to work for me right now, I will look into changing a commented out node to a regular node, but for now this works :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twolf:
Hmmm, I dont remove it from the <ImageList> ...

I simply remove any extra images on the <HomeWidget> part of the xml.

But I was convinced clocks only had pngs, no bmps...

:/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
Interesting... do you remove the whole XML node, or do you just change teh value attribute like

original

<Property name="IDHMWG_CLOCKBTN_IMG_0" id="11" value="48" />

modified

<Property name="IDHMWG_CLOCKBTN_IMG_0" id="11" value="" />

I think the analog clock images (hh_hm_aclock_*) use bitmaps, and pretty much everything else uses pngs, right now my code just looks to see if there is an "x" at the end f the string, so *.pngx and *.bmpx are both treated as being disabled

In version 0.7.104 I removed all values from the <HomeWidget> and <TabWidget> nodes, and then populated those ndoes with the values from the themes HTCHomeSettingfs.xml file, this broke M2D for most users of update 18 because update 18 has the line

<Property name="IDTABWG_WIDGET_FOCUS_BG_IMG" id="17" value="227, 227" />

in the <TabWidget> node, and not every HTCHomeSettings.xml file that is going around has that value... so with version 0.8.x I am trying to match the name attribute between the HTCHomeSettings.xml on the device and the HTCHomeSettings.xml from the theme, and if the name matches then I set the devices xml file "value" attribute with the "value" attribute from the theme xml file

for example

if the device has a xml file with the line

<Property name="IDHMWG_CLOCKBTN_1STDIGIT_POS" id="3" value="141, 81" />

and the theme xml has the line

<Property name="IDHMWG_CLOCKBTN_1STDIGIT_POS" id="3" value="21, 21" />

then I change the xml on the device to match the value

ok, that might have been a little to detailed or rambling, but let me know if you have any suggestions
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] schnitzelbrain:
Now ur theme manager works like charm, thanks alot. Great work.

A tip for enhancement (next version maybe): "Remove Theme" for saving up some memory on the device would be cool. Now I just delete the theme file with the file manager.

When I install the thememanager to my memory card than it takes hours to copy the data or doing backup of the main theme. I think its a problem of my slow sd-card.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GR6813X:
It would be very interesting that this great utility could change the softkeys of Manila2D.

Thanks for your work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dionispal:
Weather customization?

Never could find anyone in this thread or anyplace else inquiering about feasibility of replacing 5-days weather presentation with hour-by-hour forecast.

Well, one way to do that would be to assign custom software (SPB, for example, or even better - Weather Watcher Mobile) to the weather tab. This option was already mentioned in some wish lists. Just waiting for updates...

But is it possible just to change the way of retrieving information from accuweather, so instead of giving 5-day presentation it could download hour-by-hour forecast?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Elim:
Multiple mail accounts? I have...

I look into the wish-list and found this:

And I wounder about this because I can see my 2 accounts and switch between them. Is this not normal?

See pictures:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twolf:
I remove the whole XML node, but that was not my idea, I just followed the apcarvalho's digital clock... :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xECK29x:
Sorry if its been posted before, is there a way to integrate *.cab themes into M2DC?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
I updated the 2nd post with my plans for the project... let me know if you have any more ideas

I have no idea if this is possible, I am perfectly happy with the 5 day weather that I get by default so I doubt I will personally be spending much time into hacking this functionality, if someone figures out a really simple wya to do this and tells me the procedure I will definitely take the feature into consideration, but for now, I doubt this will be happening with M2DC.

Thank you for the pics, I never bothered to confirm the need for that request, but now I get to take the request off of the wish list.

Not a problem, I will be trying to think through the whole theme manager htis weekend and put together a document that explains what the theme manager does in a very simple manner, I am hoping to give recommendations for disabling thins too

hmmm, I never really thought about this, but lucky for you (and anyone else wanting this feature) this peaked my interest as a general programming challenge... I found some really good information about the WinCE file format, so I will be looking into what i can do with that information, if possible I will try to add support for applying cab themes through M2DC, I may even make a side project of an open source desktop app with a simple gui for extracting wince cab file contents. We will see how long this project keeps my interest, thanks for the request
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twolf:
My Skins

____Black____|___Pink Her___|_Black Vista__|_Clean Clock__|__Big Clock__

Already on .M2DCT format, tested on the latest versions. :)

Download:http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2728427&postcount=1917
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] xECK29x:
Thanks for the quick and detailed response :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
I have M2D cooked into the ROM and have never updated it as it works well as it is. Does the latest version of M2DC work only with the newest M2D or also with former ones?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cacahahacaca:
Same here, that would be a great feature!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dudu7559:
hi guys, methods to remap homscreen softkeys??? See "Phone" on the left if very annoying..... It doesn't care....... Phone can be activated with another key....

Do something my friends....:-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Troc:
M2DC ready Theme files

I'll be updating M2DC theme files here (and on signature link):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2729692&postcount=1952
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mattster_spv:
FEEDBACK:

Great tool this. I am using WWE_ervius_5.2.22222 aku 2.2.2 blu angel (Pre-release) - Manila2D cooked into it. Here's some feedback using twolf's themes.

Black TWolf Theme: No Analogue Clock Displayed like in screenshot. I had one before I changed to this theme! (I copied the .TSK and .Scheme to my Windows folder and .M2DCT to Program Files\M2DC\Themes. New theme appears fine, my analogue clock has disappeared!).

Black Vista Theme: Digital Clock appears, but in smaller font across top of screen as opposed to centre (like in screenshot).

Big Clock Theme: Digital Clock now appears perfectly on top of whatever theme was previously chosen. (No .tsk or .scheme in the zip). Looks good.

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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joao2307:
increase contacts in the people tab

Is there a ways for you to add in your next update the ability to add more capacity (like the launcher tab) for the contacts????

instead of 12 like 40 or so....

Thanks

JP
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
@Mattster, thanks for the feedback, I wil ltake it all into account, I think I have most of the bugs fixed with the latest code, but I will be sure ot test out the themes specifically before releasing

@JP, I probably wont be getting to this for awhile because I don't use the contact page, if you find a way to get it done let me know and I iwll try to get it into the next release

@dudu7559, I have done what I can, I am not much of a windows ce hacker, in fact this is my first windows ce program, I have tried to change the soft keys and had no luck with it

well I have been trying to do as much as I can on this project to make M2D easier and more friendly for people... but I can only make things easy that are documented. So try doing this yourself, look into the registry, look at the xml, I didn't see any obvious places to change the fucntionality,maybe you do? You can always try to extract the files form the cab and start running things through a dissassembler looking for clues, let me know if you find anything out.

I am more than happy to implement this feature, but I am taking things one step at a time and right now robust theme management is my priority
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] medidj:
yes friends please do something or show us how to remap the softkeys, i think (:s) its not so hard for people of xda, (i tried myself, but i ve foud anything) so go on it would be great and fix a big lack for m2d customisation

thank you for all you provide, and in advance for our request.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
I installed MobileMattTF2 theme on my device. Afterwards i backed it up by M2DC, changed theme, and then changed back to Matt's skin:

1. The clock frame and the colon moved right halfway across the screen.

2. The weather frame with the big icon also moved one third right

I still have the last version of M2DC installed
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario23:
I had the same exact experience.

Also, when I tried to switch to another theme (Nova) the clock again is shifted right and also, the weather looks like there are two panels running...one in the correct position and the other on top of it and shifted to the right.

Also the most recent version of M2DC installed.

tks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
Hey guys, sorry it took me awhole to et to answering this... I too have problem with MobileMatts Matt In Black theme with M2DC version 0.8.111, I know exactly why too, and I have the code in place to fix it... the problem is that I have not had time to test the code... if I can I am going to release an update before going to sleep tonight (in the next 3 hours), but we will see what all I can get done.

and the problem with the theme is that I don't read the xml values from the themes htchomesettings.xml file correctly, I only read a few selct values, and I don't read the values for all of hte widgets. I have come up with a very good straightforward standard formula for this now and I think I will have this fixed in the next build.

Thanks for the bug reports, I really do appreciate it
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario23:
Good to hear Man. I'm looking forward to it.

tks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] claus1953:
Good news as i love M2DC
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] spidertop:
changing softkeys

Yes, please, for me too.

Softkey "Phone" and "Programs" are not usefull.

I hope future release of customizer can edit softkeys :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] twolf:
Thats strange, it all worked fie on mine... :(

I have the latest version of M2D (installed on the memory) and M2DC (installed on the storage card).

The clocks dont have TSK's since they are not themes.

And it turns out the .scheme may not be needed, my bad.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] edward_law17:
i have question! when i change a theme my analog clock still here i want to change the digital one what can i do, i change 2 theme still have a same problem
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] EnsconcE:
maybe this is something worthwhile checking out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=432580

I do no know how far the progress is with the landscape orientation awerness of M2D, maybe you can integrate this in your tool so people with landscape orientated devices can use M2D decently
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
UPDATE Oct-5-2008 08:30 CDT

v0.9.127

* alot of gui cleanup

* no longer forces user to make a backup of current theme

* no longer copies files when importing, now completely moves the file

* added "Home" tab which allows for easy disablign of items on the Home Widget

* backup/restore page now has 4 buttons, separated the theme and xml

backup/restore for my own selfish reasons

* Now tries to read all position inforamtion from themes... ie 2DC will ready and

apply all line form the HTCHomeSettings.xml that contain the string "POS" or

"RECT". To disable an item in hte xml in a nice way for M2DC to pick up on the

fact that you have hidden it please set POS values to "-1,-1" and RECT values to

"-1,-1,-1,-1"

* added some more user feedback in some areas where the screen used to hang alot

* updated themes readme file with some more documentation
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mpenguin14:
Themes FAQ

How do I get themes for M2DC?

Check out the skins thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425974 twolf has been doing a great job indexing the themes and providing a quick and easy way to see what they all look like.

What file type should I download?

M2DC uses theme files that are just zip file. So all you need to do is download the zip file that contains all of the images that you want. Some skinners are releasing *.m2dct files, these file are just zip file that are renamed to *.m2dct. Version 0.6 of M2DC required skins to have a *.m2dct file extension, since verison 9.7 M2DC will also allow you to open a theme file with a *.zip file extension.

I only see themes in cab files available for download, can I use these with M2DC?

no, BUT it doesn't take very much effort to create a zip file that would be usable by M2DC. I use a french program MSCEInf available here to extract all of the files from a cab to a folder. I then make a zip file out of that folder (I recommend using http://www.7-zip.org/). Onc eyou have a zip file you can put that file on your device and import it via the M2DC theme manager.

Theme X doesn't look right, why does M2DC suck so hard?

Well themes don't always look right because M2DC is BETA software, this means that I am still working out all of the specific issues with every different theme. Version 0.9 fixes the issue where the weather page background was not centered correctly.

Whenever I have a problem with a theme I first restore my xml settings, and then I restore my original theme files.

... more faqs to come
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
Thank you sir for the time and effort you have put in to this program. Very much appreciated.:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mario23:
So far this version is working great. A couple of themes have been applied and all the needed adjustments were made. Looks great.

tks