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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] carlos_polanco:
Thanks my friend.

But I use the old HTC PhonePad and don't used the diamond or other keyboard. With T9EDITOR I'm able to import/export all those words easily.

Hope in a future we can do that with this beautiful keyboard!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
Hey Dupin!

I've tested the keyboard with HTC_eT9_Polish.cab.

The Compact QWERTY works perfect without any problems or lags.

But what i have noticed is:

The PhoneKeybad is messed up, I mean, the keys are disorted,

Full QWERTY in landscape mode don't show letters.

Cheers,

Chris
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You can't wait, uh ? :D

Well, I don't even know the package you're talking about, and I wouldn't mix flavours if I were you ;)

Now, sadly, due to the nasty nature of cabs, you'll have to reinstall all over from scratch...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
I won't reinstall for now, Im using only compact qwerty so its good for me as for now ;)

But I'll wait for your eT9 relase to test too!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
And that's good... that et9_Polish cab has no files at all for full qwerty support. But you won't have to wait for too long :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chongtw:
How to edit T9 Saved Words

DupinDJK,

Really like your keypad. Previously I was using P1Tater's keypad which is very good but because it was VGA, there were some slight distortion of the image. Recently I also encountered some problems with the T9 saved words which forced me to revert back to Touchpal. Hence, I was delighted to have discovered your keyboard. The other good news is that it automatically helps to remove the old P1Tater's keyboard, which according to some users, cannot be uninstalled properly. Your program automatically replaced the P1Tater's keyboard without any problem.

Now my question:- Is there a way to edit Saved Words in T9? Sometimes we might saved a word accidentally and instead of seeing it continously comes up (for example "oj" instead of "ok") during T9, a simple edit of the dictionary/saved words may suffice.

Any suggestions? Thanks,

I am using a touch cruise, with original ROM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
That issue is common, on devices which already have the old Touch Keypad + Keyboard innstalled, and you have it in your rom. Uninstalling is always troublesome in these cases, and it's not a fault of P1Tater. As a matter of fact, now you'll probably have the same uninstall issue with my version of the cab. For the time being, we'll have to deal with these issues. We'll jump on the install/uninstall features on B2.

WWE Rom, I suppose, right ?

Anyway, if you go to the Programs folder, you'll find a link for eT9MyWords. I've put it there just for this purpose.

Thanks for testing !

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] canadiankorean:
Sorry haven't had time to reply.

Where have you find it to be so particularly slow ? Everything is slow. Pressing a key would result in half sec delay before it shows up. The T9 words take half sec to display. It seems more a display issue imo.

With which keyboard ?

I tried the full qwerty

In which mode, ABC or T9 ?

Haven't tried ABC

I was typing in several areas like Opera, Youtube, Messages.

And, not less important:

Have you made a soft reset, since you've installed the cab ? Yes I soft reset it twice

have you already installed much other software on it ? Just the usual manilla 2d and a few other apps. C

ould you tell me the amount of its free Storage and Program memory ?

Sorage = 80.95MB Program 60.75MB free
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, your issues are even worst than worst case detailed so far.

But since you've already installed the Manila2D beta, you should prepared to do it, if asked. You should make an hard reset and then reinstall just this cab.

So far, the Vogue(s) reports have been contradictory. Nothing, in both the latest 6.1 roms from both Sprint and Telus justifies the speed issues, and there's even a report involving custom roms.

The only strange thing worth to mention is that the official ROMs are using a Tegic XT9 release with a build quite different than the one used for all the other phones. The previous 'Diamond' keyboard cab reported as working is working just on some Vogue(s) and not on others.

So ? Conflicting applications ? Wrong settings in the custom ROMs ?

Only someone willing to make an hard reset would be able to make some light.

Let us know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Beta1 posts begin here !

All the previous posts are related to the previous release of this package.

Discussions and reports about Beta1 will start after this post.

Thanks for joining in,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] randomelements:
Just glad I could be of some help. Nice work :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
I'm reserving the space here. Will report hmm... according to the hour I have - today ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iggy:
BJK, amazing work. Really appreciate your efforts.

Quick question is it possible just to install the Full Keyboard or at minimum advise which files can be deleted that would not corrupt the Full Keyboard functionality.

I never use the Compact Qwerty keyboard or T9.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
So far everything seems to be working perfectly on my Titan. This includes the FN + Space functionality. Very good job. :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I'm glad you like it. You know, when noone answers to your help requests, you have to make it on your own ;)

And, about that, are there other key combinations missing from your Titan ?

We could try to fix them, if it's ok for you.

Thanks for reporting it,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Yes, for the layouts it's possible. But then, a cab for each layout combination would have to be created, and different add-ons cabs for the languages would be necessary too. Too many cabs, too much confusion. Wouldn't it be better just to disable the keyboards you don't need ?

Unless, of course, you're trying to use as less space as possible...

But, taking English as an example, you would save no more than 200KB, by removing those two layouts. The bigger files are for the T9, and they can't be removed - unless you're a very big friend of device.exe stopping every once in a while... :)

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vmax0505:
Hi,

After installing EzInput on my Elfin, the font size in the Cube APLauncher page decreased and is now quite ugly. If I uninstall EzInput, it returns to normal size and if I reinstall EzInput I have the same problem again!

Has this problem already reported? Is there a solution?

Model: Touch (Elfin)

Language: English

Previous keyboard installed: Default HTC

ROM version: 2.20.710.2B WWE

Radio: 03.07.90

Windows 6.1 (CE OS 5.2.2021)

ExtROM version: Blue Elves v5.0
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bnm7bnm:
Hi DupinBJK

Any chanse for Hebrew layout?

Thanx.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] njakobs:
Works great on my vouge. Running Vetvito's 2.1 Kitchen rom. I am having no problems at all with the speed.

Works perfect.

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
No, you're the first to report it.

This EzInput package installs its fonts from the HelveticaNeue family, as introduced with the Diamond phones and now on the Opal rom. So it should not overwrite anything, since the original Elf rom didn't have those fonts.

The package then uses a special setting in the registry:

HKLM/Software/Microsoft/FontLink/SystemLink

whose purpose is clearly explained on MSDN:

This, too, should not produce any side effect as the one you're talking about unless, of course, there's already a configuration issue in the "Cube AP Launcher" you're referring to.

Could you uninstall the keyboard and make a list of all the fonts installed on your system ? A link to that "Cube" cab or OEM package would be appreciated, too.

Thanks for reporting.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, unfortunately not.

The EzInput dll shows no support for the 0x040D locale (if you load the dll file into Notepad, you'll notice that even the language name is missing).

I know that Tegic should be supporting it, but this keyboards suite is actually a combination of a keyboards suite and of Tegic's T9, so HTC has the final word on this.

I once saw a Raphael ROM with Hebrew support on the Wiki, but it doesn't really have any Hebrew support file on it, too. Have you ever asked to HTC anything about Hebrew language support ? Could you point me to useful links on the net ?

Thanks,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
Thanks for this keyboard I've also been working a bit with it but as I'm now cooking for 7 devices I havn't had much time to work on the keyboard.

so you have saved my a lot of time here.

The nike keyboard has always giving me problems and now you done it for me and I'm verry happy because otherwice I would have had to put the stock rom back on my girlfriends Nike because of the Keyboard.

if you need any help in adding regs for more languaes I'd be glad to help.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Thanks for reporting it !

It seems that the speed issue is related to apps compatibility only, then.

Users with light ROMs, or who have just made an hard reset, or who have not installed several keyboards at the same time, are not reporting speed issues.

If the other Vogue users who are experiencing those speed issues would like to get support on how to solve them, please be aware that more details about each Vogue configuration will be needed, along with a possible hard reset of their device.

Thanks for the cooperation, and especially to njakobs for this 'successful install' report.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Very glad of being of any help to you :)

One user is still reporting a glitch on the 20keys, but I'm waiting for other details. As soon as I'll get them, I'll make a public post to let Nike users try to reproduce the issue.

I'll PM you by then, if you wish.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] iggy:
Thanks BJK, well one can only hope, yes I was trying to save some space. Way too many things installed but of course I want them all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vcdwelt:
* Model: T-Mobile Touch Plus (HTC Nike 200)

* Language: German Device / WWE ROM

* Previous keyboards installed: no (one Opal like is cooked into rom)

* Previous SIP changer installed: no

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Cooked Mary v6.1 WWE

* Description of the issue: Couldn't install, get permission error

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: n.a.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vmax0505:
I am the first one to report to you but not the first one with this problem!

See at this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=428481

Where can I see the list of installed fonts?

The cube application is in fact the HTC TouchFlo application and I am referring to the applications' face of the cube !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] namaste74:
* Model: Touch Cruise

* Language: WWE

* Previous keyboards installed: my ROM only had basic keyboard/letter recognizer

* Previous SIP changer installed: no

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Cooked Swtos v6.1 WWE v.96 light

* Description of the issue: none, just letting you know it works well
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Hi vcdwelt, and thank-you for the report.

A few users who reported your issue have been able to install the cab after a soft reset. Could you try and let us know ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Thanks, namaste74, glad to have another Polaris on board.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, he can't expect to contribute if he asks for help in the wrong thread... ;)

Connect to the windows folder through Activesync, and look for the files with a *.ttf extension. Those are the truetype fonts. I need their names, and if there's something other beside the tahoma and courier, rar them and give me a link to download the package.

As such, I should have already received more reports... Quite strange.

I need a bit of help from you. First, tell to that fellow that he should report his issue here: two testers are better than one :)

Then, since I don't have an Elf, I'd need to compare the graphics *before* the keyboard and *after* the keyboard. The pic he posted has no value, if I cannot compare it to something else.

Could you help us ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vmax0505:
you mentionned that I should not have the "HelvetiaNeue LT 55 Roman" font in my HTC Touch (Elfin) but I have it! May be it came with the "Blue Elves v5.0" upgrade!

Assuming that the "cube" application uses also the "HelvetiaNeue LT 55 Roman" font and your application changing the font for the Tahoma one (if I understood well your explanation about the "fontlink" and its associated registry key), this could explain the problem if the "cube" is using now the "tahoma" font!

What is your opinion?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TomSe:
Dutch

Hi,

I'm using the OPAL keyboard as part of a ROM I flashed, and I like it alot. Only disappointment is that it lacks the dutch files. I tried using the official NL file from my touch but it seems it is not compatible with the keyboard.

Is there any way to download the files for the dutch T9 dictionary for this keyboard or is it planned in the near future?

Thanx alot,

TomSe.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, at this point we can't yet talk about opinions. I need evidence, first.

Clearly, MSDN sounds a bit cryptic sometimes. The FontLink allow programs to revert to the Linked font, when a given character is not available in the Primary font. This means that the Helvetica might be replaced by the Tahoma, and not vice versa. But this is especially true for symbols, or non-latin characters, not for the ones you're looking at.

Taking into account the only piece of evidence that we have, the picture posted in that other lonely thread, a simple test can be made:

Those are the two fonts we're talking about. If they seem equal, look at them once again: they are not.

Compare the pic of the cube to this one, and answer to this question: what's the font used on the cube ?

Now, as I've said, evidence is lacking. I don't know if the pic is a *before* or an *after*, so it can't be said which font has replaced the other.

If the pic is an *after*, then the Helvetica has replaced the Tahoma.

But let's stop it here... next time, send me the info I request, first.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eazy2001x:
Is there a way to get the buttons the same size as the gullum keyboard? your keys are a bt smaller and harder to use with my big thumb.. also did you have any luck with the Titan HW keyboard working with this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
As I write in the first post, other languages won't be available for download during the Beta1 phase. You should PM me for such info.

They will be available in the next phase.

You cannot mix cab from different packages or different packagers. They won't be compatible, and removal of the latter will render the former unusable.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
This is not the format requested for posting in this thread. If you have requests, PM me.

This space is only for posting successful reports or issues, as clearly explained in the first post right above the download links.

Anyway, for the "1st mistake bonus" you'll get your answers, *this* time.

1] No, these are the layouts made by HTC for the QVGA version. Gullum used the VGA graphics resized.

2] "any luck" is certainly not a clear way to describe an issue. A Titan user who has followed the rules has reported no issue on his keyboard. You'd better check the previous posts, first.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TomSe:
Ok, sorry,

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eazy2001x:
Proper format for asking questions - PM sent for requested feature change.

Model: Sprint Mogul

Language: English

Previous keyboards installed: Gullum

Previous SIP changer installed: NA

ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Stock Sprint WM6.1 ROM from HTC

Description of the issue(s):

- When I installed this keyboard the word auto complete/spell check stoped working when using the standard on screen keyboard or using the hardware keyboard.

- I got use to using the Gullum keyboard since the buttons seem to be larger by aprox 10 pixels and its hard for me to press the letter boxes accurately since your keyboard is smaller. This slows down my words per minute drastically along with increased misspelled words.

Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?:

I did not have this problem with any of the stock keyboards installed after a hard reset.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maxxd01:
I'm trying to install the file but I have the information "instalation was unsucessful. the program or seting cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions.

And now...?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mazz:
Same error on a 20 key Niki :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] vcdwelt:
Hi,

After a softreset the same problem occours :-(

no permission (round 80% installed)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maxxd01:
I have a 16 niki... So the problem is not the files (i think), anyone can help us?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mazz:
I tried several ROM from Niki forum as well as I tried to cook one from jerpelea's kitchen and I'm still not able to get hardware keyboard working. I thought I've made a mistake with the kitchen but I've the same issue with Gullum's ROM etc...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maxxd01:
I have 16 key niki and by now in a lot a rom's i've used three where hardware keyboard works (but not the XT9 PTG).

anyone can help me with the instalation problem?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Unless you'll follow the rules for reporting issues, Mazz, your post won't be counted, and you won't receive support.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
There's no 'anyone' rushing to help you just because in a few minutes you've not received an answer. Please, avoid Panic mode.

You just have to post an issue report - following the rules, and you'll receive support. This is still a one-to-many relationship. You'll have to wait.

And believe me, so far everyone has received an answer.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, you reported that no previous keyboard or SIP changer was installed. Have you installed other projects in beta before this cab, on that device ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Thanks for the report, eazy2001x. This is the way to go :)

Here are the questions:

1] A change to the T9 settings makes no difference ? Autocomplete / SpellCheck still don't work ?

2] Would it be possible for you to uninstall the cab made by Gullum, make a soft reset and then install this one ?

3] An hard reset would be a good idea, if you still get the error after the request at [2]. Any chance ?

Thanks for joining in,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] itje:
removing it.

Was wrong place to post this.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lepsyfou:
thank you very much itje for your share :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
lepsyfou, it's quite useless for me to ask people to follow rules and post only reports, if you jump here and post a message that has nothing to do with issue reporting, isn't it ?

So, if you have something to report, please do it, you'll be welcome.

OEM packages or other unrequested cabs don't belong to this thread. If everyone that has something to post arrives here and post a cab or a fix or whatever, everything will become a mess.

I'm sure many users are not interested. If you need a separate thread about an OEM package you're welcome, and you'll even receive support. But this is not the place.

Thanks for your cooperation

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
I am more then willing to help out but honestly I don't know the keyboard combos that are available (I don't use the hardware keyboard very often). Is there a list somewhere of them? I look and see if I can find it also.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maxxd01:
I dont know if there is a need of a ROM without any keyboard do .cab work. However, I told my brother (he has the pocket pc) to install a ROM without any keyboard, and the cab installed and worked sucessfuly.

When I reach home I'll try understand how this really works. Thanks for your posts.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Zero|Cool:
Works great on my tytn although i still have a problem... Whenever i want the special caracters like "é à á ó" and I press the FN+Space i get a menu to enable and disable a lot of stuff :mad: Is there a way to remap this key to the special symbols again? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Glad to know it works on your phone, Zero|Cool, but could you post a detailed report as requested in the first post of this thread ?

All reports needs to be collected, successful ones and issues.

It won't be possible to give you any kind of support, without it.

This said, you have the "1st mistake bonus" as everyone else.

So, I'll re-explain something that I've already explained in the first post.

The Tegic T9 installed by EzInput replaces the standard IME that ships with nearly all the full keyboard phones made by HTC.

It's that standard IME, which gives the DeadKeys functionality on Fn+Space.

The new IME from Tegic doesn't have it, and all the users who have installed EzInput versions ranging from 1.0 to 1.5 have lost that functionality.

A know workaround is the DisableXT9 from Dutty, which removes the new setting from the registry and replaces it with the old one (it's just a matter of changing a key value in the registry). But you have to soft reset the device each time that you use it, if you then decide to restore the T9 IME.

So, I've remapped Fn+Space to make it work as in the new Touch Pro - the menu you see is the ABC/T9 menu, which lets you use T9 with the full hardware keyboard.

You might not like it, but sure, it's a first, at least on this forum.

If you don't like it, it can be removed, but you won't get the old behaviour unless you completely disable T9. The choice is yours.

I hope I made myself clear.

Next time, read the first post more carefully, and post a detailed report.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Thanks.

This issue is most of the times related to running program on your device, or to conflicting apps. That's why it's always better to remove all the other installed keyboards and SIP changers, and then soft reset the device, before you install this cab.

So far, all the users reporting this issue for this cab and for a whole lot of others have been able to solve it. Be patient, and check your installed apps before reporting it.

This said, We still need the detailed info of your device, for the database.

Thanks for joining in.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] eazy2001x:
I actually installed this right after a hard reset with nothing else installed. Just to clarify.. I am having the auto complete problem on the stock "keyboard" and when using the "hardware keyboard". When you start to type something out a box will appear with suggested words. So if I want to type in the work "enter" soon as I type en I get a popup box with "enter", "entered", "entrance", etc.. When I install your keyboard I lose this feature.

MY Thoughts: I think this happens because the file in the registry for the keyboard switches to a different dill file when your KB gets installed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TomSe:
Help test Dutch language files

These are my specs, if you can help me out on the dutch files, I would like to help testing them on my device.

I'm using the Opal keyboard already included in the Onyx ROM and I've updated it with the other languages to check if that would work, and it seems it does.

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HTC Touch (P3450 - ELF)

ROM: Onyx 2.1 (Manilla2D)

WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.20748 (Build 19214.1.0.4)

Radio: 03.21.90

Protocol: 4.1.13.61

ExtROM: Cooked by dsixda [74.93MB Free]

Memory: 4GB µSD

IPL 2.27.0002

SPL 2.28.0000

Language: WWE

Current keyboard: OPAL already present in the ROM

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