yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You can't add that keyboard that way, you have to convert it into a regular package first. But even so, it won't solve all your issues... it will still send only capitals...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
like?

only capitals can do 160 char i know thats the issue that we try to solve.

in limited 70 char. small letters can be sent by network but again is 70 char.

other greek rom phones can right sms with small letters like our phone with your perfect (and thank you very much again) keyboard and automatically convert it to capitals so they are able to right (or auto convert) and sent 160 char.

if you can find a solution with this files from the greek 160 char. rom to our not so big prob it would be great...

thnks from greece again Ευχαριστώ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
From what I see, that keyboard will just be an additional entry in the input panel. It won't allow you to automatically convert what you type with EzInput into capitals...

Anyway, I'll send you a cab via PM. Convert it with Ervius' tools.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] K0mmaT1A:
Ok we need to focus, this is indeed getting out of topic but I dont mind :P

What I found out reading, is that Foreign providers support "gsm 7 bit" sms and "unicode 16 bit" (70char) sms. Greek Telephone providers (as most European that have funky-non latin characters) support AND 8-bit encoded sms, and those can send iso8859-7 (8bit) greek letters (Capital and smalls) which take 1 byte. My idea was to send directly the ascii codes from the soft keyboard of iso8859-7 in 8 bits thus not comply to the gsm 7bit standar, but use the 8bit compatibility of Greek telephone networks.

This way we will be able to send and small greek letters... The thing is that I dont know if this is even possible with a non ISO8859-7, 0408 ROM.

An other idea is send the ascii 8-bit chars in gsm 7bit type, thus giving us a maximum of 140 chars per sms, but I believe this would need some hardcore programming... and because I'm not a programmer not a practical solution.

Ac3 hellas does the previously mentioned solution one, and converts dynamicly any greek character to 7-bit standar (Capitals only).. so it's not the perfect solution, but it's a very easy one ;)

I'll try the next stage in searching for the Greek holy sms-grail, hexing a correctly send sms! Wish me luck, I dont have a clue! lol If someone could help here it would be very very nice!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
*YOU* don't mind... :D

I have an RC2 to put out ;)

The idea is certainly good, but as I've said, I can only confirm your doubts.

Unless someone else has already discovered a way...

Any ? Probably just the ones typed through its keyboard, not through this one...

Well, good luck :)

As far as I'm concerned, I already have to convert the layout of the Greek Phone keypad to the right alphabet order...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lyllo:
hi guys.

i'm expercing some minor difficulties using the program and a major problem with the accented letters.

the minor one: i do not like the setting according with i can't move the cursor among the letters when i'm writing but before i can do it i have to press enter or space bar. i'd like to have the old classic basic pda setting which let me move frely whereever i want. is there any way to solve?

the major one: the program overwritten the FN+SPACE_BAR function to add the correct accents to the letters i want. this is a major problem i really would like to solve. any hint?

thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] s4dd1:
I don't know about your minor Problems, but for the fn+space i made a fix which works on Kaiser, I don't know about other devices. It seems that the Deadkey support isn't removed as stated in this thread.

Get it here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=446405

Ones again many thanks to DupinBJK for his amazing Project :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Priority goes to the cabs, now. The other languages will come first, in a multilanguage approach similar to the great idea used by Gullum for his cab, and then each one separately.

It shouldn't take long because it's just a tedious work, but I'm going to test an install in a separate folder, to reduce the clutter in \Windows, and I've to make some test for the east-european languages, because some files are still missing and I'm only halfway through with the patching of the files from Raphael.

Anyway, stay tuned, it might happen sooner than you think.

I have a question, however: how do you deal with the landscape layouts missing from the HTC code ? Are they an issue for you ?

Thanks for your help. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
I have a oem that is working perfect on my kaiser and I can maybe make it multilanguage as the diamond keyboard.. but I need some time to do that.

I'm also bussy with camera and phonecanvas. and I'm also tyrying to get TF2D to work on wizard and Prophet while I cook a rom for ELF, Kaiser and Herlad.

on kaiser I have TF2d(with everything in all tabs working), Volumcontrol, album, camera, keyboard, Large menu and titlebar, youtube and google maps all working.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
Hasn't been an issue for me because my ROM is setup to keep the software keyboard closed and use the hardware keyboard.

The landscape full qwerty works fine but the phone and compact keyboard switch to the standard keyboard when chosen.

If you need more testing done let me know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
hi

i install it on my Nike and it work very well except hardware keyboard...

hope it's an usefull information, and perhaps hardware keyboard work one day...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
This sounds good... I could use the same workaround with this one. Can you tell me how it has been implemented ?

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Weird I left the Nike KeyMap in there Specifically.

Gullum has an anwser.

Well there are some Reg Keys in there for Rapheal so that would explain forcing not to use the Keyboard in Landscape.

I have to say i'm not as scholar ed in the KeyBoard, just throwing up thought Bubbles.

GULLUM=HARDCORE, i will propably repeat this untill other people start getting it.

Isn't there any other Other Wizard Cook That can Help you Verify?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
how's it coming fellas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Noonski:
Slowly Just As It Should be ;)

All this attention From the last days puts to much pressure on the kettle.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] goldengraham:
Alright I got past my problem. Installed your cab everything seems to work fine tho the T9 is very slow on compact QWERTY... besides that seems to work very well... keep up the good work.

GG
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bedaweed:
yea same here
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, being a Kaiser user I've never been able to use t9 with the keyboard, so I didn't even know that it was possible.

Since the Touch Dual, the Polaris and the Diamond all use the Nike file, and only the Touch Pro uses a different Raphael file, I'm wondering what's wrong.

Tell me, is it possible to use t9 with the hardware keyboard of both the Touch Dual and the Touch Pro ?

Using the Raphael file or adding the "HasHardKeyboard" key to the Tegic subkey of the Registry doesn't change anything...

I thought that on the Raphael it was possible to hide the missing layouts thanks to the new SIPMenu, isn't it ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
English t9 is quite fast here on the Keypad, I've not noticed a speed difference between Keypad and Compact Qwerty.

French T9 seems to have less words when in Compact Qwerty mode, but that's strange, because it still can suggest words and so it shouldn't point to a dictionary issue.

No particular problem on Italian too, and the German one is able to suggest those few words I know :)

Let's wait for other reviews, to get a better insight...

Thanks for your time !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
the t9 is working on my girlfriend Touch dual hardware keyboard using my throttle danish rom.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
What have you done to enable it ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gullum:
I had to add the dahpd.kdb in her case (danisk hardware keyboard file) to get it to work.

I'm shure if I find what file is for hardware keyboard in touch pro I can get t9 working with hardware keyboard on kaiser too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I agree, but I can't find *hpd.kdb files in the Raphael ROMS I have here.

I have an enhpd.kdb file that comes from a very old Touch Dual Keyboard cab, but on that registry it's used where now the spd.4x4.English.kdb is used instead...

Beside the file, what have you done on the registry, to allow the hardware keyboard use ? I've here your Diamond keyboard cab, and I don't see any particular setting different from what can be extracted from the default.hv file... Please share some light :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] :
keeping this thread at top!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blibble:
DupinBJK - Vetvito reported in post 16 that the keypad was typing only numbers.

I have not tried this cab myself because I have Gullums Diamond keypad working on my Atom Life.

My post was just to inform that with Gullums keypad, on devices that have this problem, pressing options and returning to the keypad would fix this until the next soft reset, so he could try this and see if the same is true for this keypad.

I know that some devices do not have this problem and some do, but nobody seems to know why. I did wonder if it is only non-HTC devices that are affected.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mikulec:
I had the same issue on Kaiser(typing only numbers). I installed this keyboard, but my hardware keyboard was unable to perform the fn+space function, so I had to install disable xt9 and after that the software keyboard typed only numbers. Before installing disable xt9 was all working correctly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] garsim:
on my touch dual(20keys) key mapping are wrong! :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Huh ? How can you get that fix if I haven't posted it yet ?

Edit:

Ah, I see, you made the discovery by yourself, there are still the other old mistakes in the mapping files :D

Smart guy.

Indeed, the 7A key has been once again available with the new Tegic libraries introduced with the RC1.

RC2 has an updated DeadKeys map for all the available languages (and this alone means you didn't spot my cab, because you just have the standard one ;)).

I was yet collecting opinions of whether to include it as standard behaviour or external cab, but it seems you've ruined my surprise :D

Anyway, I have not been able to assign both fuctions to the keyboard, I don't know if you've tried or not. All the other keys are assigned, and still the long-press mapping of that file doesn't work as it should.

Great to have you in then but... if I remember well, you didn't stop to post a report... bad... bad... :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] s4dd1:
No I didn't spot your cab, would have spared me some sleepless hours (; Sry to ruin your suprise (:

no i don't tried that, because i'm not enterly sure how you managed to get the menu working....

I waited for some Sucessreports in the Kaiser Forum before posting it here!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
How I did that ? Well, I've written an app to show me all the hardware keycodes of the HW keyboards, and I discovered, at B1 time, that the pass-through for the deadkeys wasn't working. The disassembled code of EzInput shows that the Tegic menu appears with the 0x12 code, and so I used a Raphael mapping file to make another pass-through.

There are many codes which could be enabled, including a new symbol pad and the Deadkeys, most likely introduced with the new libraries I used for the RC1. The only problem is that Kaiser and previous Full Kbd phones don't have any more keys to remap, so you'll have to choose between the menu *or* the Deadkeys. And there are a lot of users in both groups ;)

But about the reports... I was meaning an install report for the cab :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Yes, you'll only get this behaviour when using T9 prediction. You can switch to ABC, if you want to freely use the cursor keys.

If you want to always start with ABC, there's a special customization cab in post #6.

You can install RC2 and get the updated configurations, to get your beloved deadkeys back. But you'll have to post a detailed report by that time ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lyllo:
it works!

thanx a lot m8! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chihliouma:
Hi DupinBJK, is there any prediction for releasing RC2 ? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] illuminarok:
Any chance for a Japanese pack?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SpoiledK:
Is there a way to add new words by sides adding it to the eT9 MyWord? In a different version of the Diamond keyboard, when I switch to ABC, I could type in the word then click add... In this version, when I switch to ABC and start to type the word I want, it does not highlight the word and it does not give me the option to add it.

I definitely like the look and feel of this version better, but hope there is a way I could add words by side going to eT9 MyWord.... Thanks...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I'm waiting for a GO from a few users of each kind of device, to publish it. We all should be ready by this weekend, or maybe even before ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
As for the Chinese, I don't think that a simple Language Pack would be feasible for Japanese. You'd need a different way to input characters, not just a latin-style keyboard.

HTC has just published an EzInput for the 0804 locale which I'll publish here in the next few days, but so far I haven't heard of something similar for the 0411 locale.

If you know something about HTC releases for the Japanese market, your help would really be useful.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Yes it's possible. You just have to enable "Word Completion in ABC mode" under T9 Settings, and you'll get the prediction bar with the Add button (a "+") even when typing in ABC.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SpoiledK:
dude... thanks... great work..!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sagitario_:
Hello,

I finish install this app with the portuguese language pack but dont work like I expected.

It only show the Phone Keypad, the Full QWERTY and de Compact QWERTY are list but when I change they not show.

When a try to use the Phone Keypad it only type numbers.

Now my hardware keyboard funtion Fn + Space no longer work.

A like this keyboard design... there are a way to resolve this problems?

Cumps,

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HTC TyTN II P4550 (KAISER)

ROM: WM 6.1 [WinCE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Have you chosen the Portuguese language through the Settings in Control Panel ?

For the Fn + Space function the issue no longer exists. You'll have to come back this weekend to download RC2 for that, and you'll get the updated accents for your language with it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sagitario_:
Yes... I chose. Even when I try with no language pack the problems remain.

I will wait for the RC2 version.

Thanks and keep the good work!!!

Cumps,

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HTC TyTN II P4550 (KAISER)

ROM: WM 6.1 [WinCE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
RC2 is now Available

You can now download the updated RC2 main cabs, on post #2.

VGA and WVGA cabs will be posted in the next few days.

Enjoy ! :)

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You *cannot* try with no language pack. It won't ever work that way.

Remember to make a soft reset, after you've installed the language packs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Myster:
Hi

I have been trying to install on a newly released Touch 3G (Jade) but it keeps failing with the following Note

" Installation Unsuccessful .... cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions. "

Can someone enlighten me ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sagitario_:
Ok, I have download and install RC2, but the problems continues. :(

The new progresse is that now I can see the Compact QWERTY.

Cumps,

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HTC TyTN II P4550 (KAISER)

ROM: WM 6.1 [WinCE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] s4dd1:
Successful report

* Model:HTC Kaiser

* Language:WWE ( with German Input )

* Previous keyboards installed: None

* Previous SIP changer installed: None

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Custom 6.1(build 20931)

* Main Keyboard cab installed (NoKbd, KPad, CpKbd, FullKbd): none (FullKbd coocked in ;) )

* Language Packs installed on the Keyboard: German

Thanks for rc2 !Works fine here :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sinoo:
Works and looks perfect on a XDA orbit 2! THX
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You have to stop your SipGT_App.exe, to be able to install it.

However, the fact that you're not posting a detailed report means that you've not read the instructions well enough. Make a step backward, read Post #2, and come back to post the details. Then you'll get support.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You, as well, need to post a report as detailed on post #2.

After that, make a dump of your HKLM/Software/HTC/EzSip and HKLM/Software/Tegic keys and send them through a PM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Laurentius26:
Congratiolations with RC2 my friend, very nice work! :)

Grtz,

Leo :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
A very nice work for a very great V5 ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Myster:
Thanks for the info , i appologize for not providing all the details

* Issues: "Installation Unsuccessful .... cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions "

* Model: HTC Touch 3G Jade

* Language: English

* Previous keyboards installed: NO

* Previous SIP changer installed: NO

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): 6.1

* Main Keyboard cab installed (NoKbd, KPad, CpKbd, FullKbd): NoKbd

* Language Packs installed on the Keyboard: WWE
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
This way it's better :)

Since you have a Jade, however, you already have the EzInput keyboard, and its Sip changer. The language you've tried to install, however, should be English, not WWE.

There can only be a reason why you can't install it: you have to stop the SipGT_app process, which is responsible for your new SipMenu.

After that, you will be able to install this cab. But however, since you're going to use English and have a NoKbd phone, you won't use any of the improvements which have been added :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chihliouma:
I do see SIPGT_app.exe running in the background (process) by using the Task manager, but there is no option that I can used to remove. Can anybody advice what software I can use to remove/ terminate that file ? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bugsykoosh:
DupinBJK when installed does this use the T( custom dictionary or the traditional Windows autocorrect file (i.e. the same one that the standard windows keyboard uses). Thanks. I ask because the Fuze has this keyboard but it uses the T9 dictionary which is only autocomplete (no autocorrect) and I want to go back to the old autocorrect with drop boxes like my Tilt used to do. Thanks again
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Myster:
My mistake again , i thought you were asking which languages are installed in ROM

I am trying to istall an extra language ( Greek ) that is why i am so interested in this project

So you are saying that i just have to install the extra language Greek Cab and i am ready to go ?? Because i did that but didn't work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
But why don't you follow the simple rule and post a detailed report for your device ? Is this the way to say thanks for all the work that has been done ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Good choice ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bruno18:
Where could I have the download link for RC2 (with VGA)?

Tks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
As the rules say, you *Must* install a language and select it through the settings -> Input panel, and then make a soft reset.

But since you are using a Jade you might encounter an install issue, caused by the fact that you already have the SipGT_app.exe running on your device.

In that case, the only way to proceed to a successfull install would be to terminate its process. You could use SkTools for that.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
And why, again, you don't read the rules and post accordingly ? They are written in plain English, what excuses do you have for not reading them ?

Once again, just writing "thanks" is not enough to show you appreciate the work that has been done.

The keyboard use the T9 dictionaries from Tegic, which are customizable. You can set both autocomplete and spell correction.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
VGA and WVGA have been postponed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HDuser:
Touch HD WVGA

Hi DupinBJK

Long thread and I have not read much about WVGA.

Question 1:

Would you like any files and/or reg settetings of my German HTC Touch HD ?

Qiestion 2 (off topic of your thread)

Would it be possible to create a new Keyboard for the Touch HD that would be shown in the list and simulate the DPAD actions?

Problem:

There are some applictions that use the Dpad for navigation and the HD does not have one.

Thus the only way to navigate without the stylist (one handed) is to open the keyboard and use the Up / Down / Left / Right / Enter keys.

The problem there is that the letters take up most of the screen.

Thus it would be nice to be able to chose a "Dpad" keyboard over the keyboard icon at the bottom.

And this keyboard would be a one liner same as the bootom of the current one but with the Enter added in the middle.

Your thoughts ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
No, it's new for RC2 release. I'm still patching the files and building the cabs.

No, thanks, I have everything here.

If I understand well enough, you'd need a different layout for the keyboard, with a different layout for the navigation bar at the bottom. Am I right ?

If so, the answer is no - it's not possible. Or, better, it would not be worth it.

That's because all the layout maps are hardcoded into the library, and with a given set of events. The library still has old resources from the times of EzInput 1.0 which could be edited, but those are in a different resource segment from the one used for the code. And to do what you ask we should add some code to manage the events of the different keys.

As you see, EzInput is not so customizable with a few efforts. That's what I mean when I say that it would not be worth it :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] HDuser:
DupinBJK

Thanks for your reply and I think I got the message one last approach before I give it up.

So you are saying that the layout is defined and is based on the libary, thus the layout must remain the same. Correct?

Now reading through the thread I got the inpression that you can change the display of the layout and thus the action when you press that part of the screen.

(you talked about in the differences of the compact / full greek keyboards and remaping them).

Now given that you can change one map to perform a different funtion as long as this is in the libary.

Now can you also change the size of the layout or the amount of rows that are shown.

What I mean here is can you define the size of the keyboard to only show the same 2 bottom lines of what I have now ?

(thus cutting of the letters in the top 3 rows and leaving me with the bottom 2).

This would leave:

The bottom Navigation bar

Based on that the same keys are shown that point to the same libary and perform the same funtions.

On the second line

Here the caps, abc, space and .123 need to be Blanked out and call none event.

The enter remains and calls the same event.

Is that doable ??