yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] w04g005:
OK i uploaded the cab file WITHOUT the msm_clk.dll....if it is corrupted it wouldnt work on our phones. Or what do you think?

But do you really think the latest official ROM (it is the german O2 or isn't it)

will be the same version than the HTC -Rom?

This would be real ****.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Actually I have a question Nikmel, you said yesterday that you think that the htcclassaction driver is also only a software accelerator.. ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NikMel:
ddi.dll will be the same but it works realy good!

when you flash my testing rom and run htcclass tools they will render not fast but they render like 2-3 fps.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
thanks w.. I'm testing it now. :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NikMel:
this file has some function call's that are needed by htcclass dll's and tools.

I gues the latest cab file from htcclass is got corrupted during the compilation of that cab file.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] w04g005:
Sorry i forgot to create a subfolder in Programs.... reuploaded the cabfile
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] w04g005:
what about swtos and udk? we should ask them if they can help us!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Why not.. ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
Guys, my testapps are working awesome, so what seems to be the problem here?

Lights is turning like crazy! :) And touchflo2D works even smoother than before!

I also installed the Touchflo3D by Herg, and it ran with 3 FPS stable. Normally it would be under 1 FPS. That's a 300% improvement with just that .dll file Nikmel uploaded!

My graphics score in SPB benchmark were 4500+% over the Ipaq!

So if you guys think you can improve even more, that would be friggin' sweet!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Good to hear, but its still software acceleration and we would like to see true hardware acceleration - wouldnt we? ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
w04g005, could you uncab and zip up the kaiser files for me please?

I'm still testing the hardware acceleration and think I may have found something of interest.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Could you do those test with some 3d games and post your results? Thanks
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
You guys already made my day. Don't push it too far or i'll wet myself.

Seriously though, we don't know if the Kaiser does have hardware accelaration. Or does 'Hergilla' use the 3D engine? If so, it runs at 3 FPS on my polaris, which means the 3D drivers work. To a small extent.

edit: i'll see what i can do with 3D benchmarks. Point me to some. oh and bally3, would you update your first post with some results you guys make? I think alot of users would be glad to know they can significantly improve their 2D speeds with that .dll and registry tweak. ;-)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Try doom, quake etc.. and also whats video playback like for everyone? I myself thought there was minimal difference.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] w04g005:
Without the msm_clk.dll file
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
From what I've read it seems the Kaiser project is dead as most of them have resigned themselves to the fact that the omnio dll file shows better improvement than the htcclass one.

So whatever we come up with, if anything will be watched with interest on both sides.

And yes, it would be nice to get more experienced people on board, but it does seem the more experienced people are not too bothered about the 3D development on the Polaris.

We could have surmised then, that meant we were probably flogging the proverbial "donkey".. ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
Ok, so i installed DooM. And it feels like i'm back in 1993 on my x486. =D

It plays perfect (aside from ****ty controls).

but still, that's ONLY with the omnia dll hooked.

If you want me to test other stuff, just holler.

With SPB benchamrk, i got these scores on graphics testing (compared to IPAQ 3650):

Graphics test: DDB BitBlt, 0.7 ms, 1429 frames/sec, 5309%

Graphics test: DIB BitBlt, 7.6 ms, 132 frames/sec, 975%

Graphics test: GAPI BitBlt, 2.21 ms, 454 frames/sec, 210%
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Thanks w05.. you're a star! ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
No problem neo, can you post the TouchFlo cab? its not throttle launcher is it? These are the types of apps I want to test on..

btw, try quake of you can get a trial for it.. it should be more gpu intensive!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NikMel:
I'm not a gamer so let me know where can I download a trial?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] dwaradzyn:
Every of the following:

Texture Filter: LINEAR
Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR
Texture Filter: LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST
Texture Filter: NEAREST
Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR
Texture Filter: NEAREST_MIPMAP_NEAREST
Texture Size: 64x64
Texture Size: 128x128
Texture Size: 256x256
Texture Size: 512x512
Texture Size: 1024x1024
Triangles: Flat Shaded + Color
Triangles: Smooth Shaded + Color
Triangles: Textured
Triangles: Textured + Color

Scored about 3 000 000 triangles/sec but there was only blank screen instead of spinning car.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
There's supposed to be a spinning car?! I guess we missed something then :p
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] itje:
the spinning car? I have that one, it changes colors, with diffrent lights etc etc. whats the problem?

:D
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pananza:
Does it spin? On my device it stays still, only the colors cycle.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] zandbergen:
3D driver cab vs6

Guys,

You’ve done a great job by developing the 3D driver cab. I’ve just installed the last version, my son NeoS send me this morning. My Polaris with udK Syrius R0 WWE is much faster now. Keep on doing this great work. I my donation is on his way.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
err, you're welcome? It's still far from completed though, so I wouldn't rely too heavy on it.

Anyway, thanks for testing.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
second that.. the triangles and the ones mentioned by Dwaradzyne have never worked.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] rogro82:
They also dont work on the kaiser as well as on the diamond if im not mistaking ;)

Same as the blurry 3d text...
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
no, and I've asked the question many times why it works with the omnio driver but apart from optimisation i've found no other answer.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] rogro82:
About the blurred text ive found a problem someone had that sounds a lot like ours but im trying to find out if it is the same... and if it could bring me closer to a solution. ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
Isn't the text D3D instead of GL?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Ca5c4d3:
The MSDN link you provided applies to Windows CE but not Windows Mobile
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
*sigh* I guess it won't stop being mentioned until I change it.. mamma mia! :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
hi there, been silent for a while now but got some good news ;)

progress has been made on manila 3D...

Fianally got it to work...still don't know how..

backup has been made ;)

its up and running on my polaris...not a beta version, a final version...its still in VGA...

i tried to see version in the about, but all i could see was: TouchFLO 1.1

works great...fast...gestures are working to...weather working...audio is not cause it cant find/execute an exe...

working on finding the layout files to make it QVGA :D

only problem is it doesn't go to sleep (driver related)...all other bugs i had with beta, are now...gone ;)

lets make some magic...
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] joergswa:
let´s have a Video?! We all want a working TouchFlo 3D on Polaris!! Keep on rocking!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
Diamond go to sleep when the stylus is insert on him, maybe you should take a look in this direction, can i help you i have R1 rom and ok for beta test :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] itje:
you are joking right?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
yes :D. but still avalaible to test :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] itje:
I tought so, but you never know :D
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
Sorry for my english , this was a french joke translate in english so no very funny finally ^^.

Go flashing new RTM Mamine and waiting your rom too ;)

( but i prefere blue skin :p )
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
really want to help you , where i can find the file to look inside ? is the file names "current progress.zip".??

can you says me where your find your manila font files to change color , can't find them too.

thanks
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] rogro82:
As soon as you have a test version ill try to figure out the powerrequirement... maybe i need to create an app that sets it well see ;) Guess somehow the device is put in to full requirement that means the backlight cant be turned off...

Edit:

I made an app while typing this...

Its the keepAwake app in reverse this should set the powerrequirement to d3 and should allow you turn off the backlight...

Can you try this when you are running manilla?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
Heya Rog, working on 3 projects now, are we?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
@rogro82 on which rom do you want us to test your appz ?

@all is anybody having the backlight quick level changing avalaible in HTC default rom so i can test it under manila please
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] rogro82:
Made a change so i dont have to rewrite everytime someone needs to set the powerrequirement on something else...

i just added the D* states so you can select them yourself ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
don't understand what is suppose to happend when i choose a D0 or D3 or else ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
no its not current progress.zip
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
will try this and reply later...thanks
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Juan83:
Where is the software? The Cab file or files i mean...
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
a little show and tell ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfqA4zO1f6I
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] SuperJMN:
INTENSE VIDEO
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
Very nice! Now this is something we need to have working.

Thanks for sharing. I saw the text suffers from the same problem as our 3D tools, or did you blur it out?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Svenvdmeer:
it says no longer available
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
text was blured out ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] soterman:
Great work fellas!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] lordox:
Good Work "P3D"

Nice Video :eek:

GG
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] deechte:
Nice work PC, that looks promising!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] joergswa:
It´s a little big, isnt?! It is porting direct from Diamond? I meen it is VGA, but we need QVGA for the polaris. What do you think, it is possible to make a stable QVGA TFL 3D for Polaris?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] radem205:
The only thing that has to be done is scaling the images (0.5) and position the images correctly on the screen, am I right?

I'm good with Photoshop, so if I can help you with resizing the images, just let me know!!

Could anyone post the files used for a working TouchFlo 3D, so anyone can look for a solution porting this version to QVGA?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
read before posting :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] joergswa:
ok, thx but read what?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Converting a VGA application thats built into a system like the TouchFlo £D is in the Diamond takes a tremendous amount of time and effort. More time than porting the 3D driver to the Polaris and remember, pcarvalho is doing this is literally on his own, in his own time so please be patient.

I'm as excited as everyone else, if not more so as this interface will be a great showcase for the 3D drivers capability. pcarvalho put the video up to show us that it is working but it is also apparent from the video that a lot of work is required. Please either consider a donation to our friend or be patient and wait for him to announce a release in his own good time.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] radem205:
There are several pages where you can find that TouchFlo 3D is working, ONLY with the VGA resolution (so everything is zoomed in). Therefore we need to port it to QVGA.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
what is written in here ;)

you would have known that its still in vga mode and why...

no biggy...

cheers
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] rogro82:
pcarvalho if you need anyone to help you with porting just yell..

Is there also development work involved or mostly graphics?

Edit:

The .m9 files are xml files that can be edited with a xml editor or just plain old notepad...

Cant you just use the ones that are included in Hergila?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] whitealien:
Do you think it is really that simple? :p Somebody could release it long time ago then.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
problem is that that was the beta...now its all *_manila with no extension (where the * is a hash number of X lenth, that representes a path)...
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
pcarvalho.. just pm'd you with some news.. or join us in xda dev chat :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
today i'm on pda only...tried to join but failed...tell him to pm me ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
music tab...working!!!

just instaled diamond audiomanager...pretty easy ;)

now every tab is working :D
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] udK:
Very impressive, nice work ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
pcarvalho.. please respond to my pm man :confused:
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
already did in a few posts above...got a new one only now...
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
damn// soz matey.. how did I miss that... posts here are manic :P
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
no worries :D
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] maqui01:
hey, that's a very good work on the touchflo3d, if u need there one more hand helping just pm me. good luck
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] SuperJMN:
You pasted and abbreviated link that is not complete :(
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Chainfire:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JcgejtVGlXk

You ain't getting nothing though. Never gonna be released.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] itje:
great work

If you are not joking...may I ask why not?

cheers
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ubhishek:
Very very nice ... great work! So does it look more likely now that polaris users will get touch 3d?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Tzeunis:
Maybe stupid question, but is there also any improvement in 2D development? I love the 3D, but as most of the programs use 2D i would like to know if u great guys also work on that and see some inprovement.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
~78% people wants 3d before 2D ;)

so 2D will come after the 3D driver
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Tzeunis:
i see imfloflo, but my question was they see any improvement in 2D. I think 90% of the programs all peeps use, is 2D.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
find a toshiba g810 rom and we can fix it.

I've had THREE people who've come back to me saying they've been searching for this rom since I made this appeal a while back which while I'm really grateful to them, is a pretty pathetic response.

There are scores of users moaning about the 2d on many threads and even our poll has over 140 votes to the 2D driver and very few willing to do anything to help fix it.

If you think that being non-technical is a reason, then read this thread from start to finish and see how I started and got here.

If you need ideas:

1) There are loads of users out there and on here with the rom we just need to convince them to dump it.

2) Start a Toshiba G810 rom thread in the Toshiba forum, find out who they are. Find out what they need.

3) Register with Toshiba forum sites and do the same.

4) Ask friends and family if anyone knows someone who has the device.

5) Do you have friends who work in phone shops? can they get one to you long enough to dump a rom?

6) Try to get hold of it somehow.. can you rent it? I dont know.. try it! :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] BigKvak:
I work in phone shop. But I don't know how to dump rom from toshiba(((

PS:Sorry fo My english
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Thanks for coming back to uus.. I'm pm-ing you some details.

Dont worry.. we will help you step by step to do it.. its not hard at all. :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
Cool great news a news dump rom to increase our driver
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] m.schmidler:
He´s definetely joking, anything else would be just stupid and egoistic.

Nevertheless, TF3D on Polaris looked a bit more fluent than this...

regards,

Martin
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] gregy74:
Is this Toshiba made by HTC?

I can see that is identical to our Polaris (except housing).

People on GSM arena talking that this device is really fast, faster then Diamond. We really need drivers from this Toshiba.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] benleonheart:
Toshiba (http://www.toshiba.com/tai/)

HTC (http://www.htc.com/)

they seem different.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pcarvalho:
made a little test on graphics and i can say that they are stretched to fit the size of the screen...so once tf3d gets small screened, graphics can also get QSized, using less memory then ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] manaaa:
sounds great ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] halorin:
HTC's and Sony Ericsson's websites seem to be different also, and yet HTC's making the X1. :rolleyes:
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] m.schmidler:
ok, i´ve been right, looks like this is on the way to our Polarises !

Video from Manilla 3D Thread: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cM-rVD6kzeA
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] itje:
I have started my work on m3d ;)

cheerio....
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] imfloflo:
http://www.zshare.net/video/20227163ac2fdbfe/

http://www.zshare.net/video/20233628eaaa68e9/

here some videos thanks to all the team and all under worker man
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ubhishek:
Hey itje ... so what does that mean ... new rom? ;)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pdgpereira:
Videos looking really nice. Impressive job. Cheers for everyone involved!!

Just one note: this is probably not coming out to public before tob bars and other bugs are worked out, and thats all fine. As for the possibly cleener look of the grafics (i've read somewere), i think thats more like a plus that is nice but can wait for further releases if the interface is almoste ready or something (i'm not really sure how far you guys are but looks impressive). Would you agree?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] itje:
nope, that is far, far away :)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] ubhishek:
Cool, atleast it doesn;t look impossible now.

Thanks
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Arni06:
but on the right way :)

thanks to all 3D team for your great job!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] m.schmidler:
As some people here already said, we could be really sorry for Diamond owners, since we got 3D drivers Polaris shows its real potential. My brothers got a diamond and he´s on the verge of killing me xD
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NeoS:
Small update for the people following this thread:

Thanks to djboo the P3D team is currently working on Manila3D for QVGA devices. (Read Kaiser and Polaris, because they have a 3D driver)

We are still also working on updates for the current driver, but that will continue as soon as Manila3D is working correctly.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Fontanini:
this topic keeps amazing me! :D

I see that there's a lot of work done on the 3d drivers but how about 2d?

the scrolling in all programs etc? the most applications are 2d, right?

could someone give me an update?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
This question has been answered many time before in earlier posts - please read them I only just posted an answer yesterday!

We are waiting for a g810 rom dump before we can start on the 2d driver - currently I'm in contact with a user who posted here yesterday to see if he can get it.

PLEASE PEOPLE - STOP ASKING ABOUT THE 2D DRIVER! :confused:
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Cab Released Through Htcclassaction.org Website

The long awaited 3D driver cab has finally been released.

Link updated in first post.

Enjoy!

:)
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] secoseco:
Hi bally

thx to all P3D Team, that's what we can do to the amazing team

is this the final relase for the 3D driver ?

and can test it with any rom don't has 3d driver ?

thx
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] rogro82:
Final as in major... yes... final as in final... depends on the future... ;)

Its finally time to celebrate and drink a beer :D again? yes again :p
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] secoseco:
celebrate ??? what is this ??

you all have a hard work to get the 2D driver when you get Toshiba ROM

joking

enjoy and take a breath but not for long time

thx
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] pananza:
Good going guys. I've tried reading, but I fail to find any information about this release regarding contents and what's new.

Is it any improvement over take Itjes ROMs that have an earlier(?) version in it?

Any information about benchmark results compared to pre-releases would be great. Is D3D text now working?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] belabartok:
The team made a great effort with this work, and an amazing one.You`ve have done the drivers so quickly!.

I`m really anxious waiting for the 2d drivers to come

I`ll say the truth,I`d prefer to see first the 2d drivers developed than m3d.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] BigKvak:
Toshiba ROM

I have dumped ROM from Toshiba, here the link http://rapidshare.com/files/152085600/dump.rar.html
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] eddytheeagle:
Forgive me if this is a sillyquestion, but I serached the forum and did not find the answer to this:

Can you telle me where to find 3D applications or games to run on my polaris to check the 3d functionality? I'd like to see them running on my polaris. Even commercial games or applications are okay.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] HiTouCh:
Hello 3D Team,

I can not find the words to say what I feel, and I'm probably not alone.

You are wonderful!

UNBELIEVABLE !!! THANX THANX THANX !!!
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] torpie13:
Thanks for the dump Man; Downloading....
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NuShrike:
Thank you!

So does anybody know how to extract this?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] NikMel:
Aa this moment I'm on a slow network (gprs on polaris :rolleyes:) but when I get to my office I'll try to dump this rom and let you all know.
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] vanvancool:
maybe help this

compared with hexeditor

working ROM look at hex: 1228h

and compare this with

dump.bin hex: ~1000h

wrong/missing Header in dump.bin ?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Chainfire:
colonel00 was able to partially dump this - but says the dump is incomplete. redo from start?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] Chainfire:
thx to colonel00:

http://www.jongma.org/tmp/toshiba1.rar

THIS DUMP IS INCOMPLETE
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] BigKvak:
(

I'll try gab_it_256 today...

Somebody has a other program for dumping rom's?

[Edit] http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=238945&page=13 post #127

"grabit dump is a 'raw' dump, without any header/footer (wrapper).

you can add 'wrapper' for nba or sd type image or convert it to B000FF style file."

may be we must add header/footer to dump.bin?
[Touch Cruise ROM Development] bally3:
Niky...! :p

Thought we'd lost you to a phone upgrade ... hehe!

;)