yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] microfox:
Hey monx, regarding the next release. I have something in mind.

Before you release it officially I suggest making a beta testers team. Where you get the ROM tested and bugs reported totally, and they get fixed till you get the best stable version.

After that the development continuous steady with every new release tested and released when you're sure it's totally stable.

That's what I think and I can help in beta testing. Hope to hear from you and the rest of the community. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] johanromijn:
Don't know if that's a good idea.

Most of monx ROMs are really stable and without major bugs.

Whenever a new ROM is released there are always a few ROM junkies, who flash the ROM immediately.

So, when you don't like to flash every day, just wait for a couple of hours/days if bugs are reported.

After all this forum is called XDA-DEVELOPERS, we are all some kind of BETA testers isn't it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
@microfox & @johanromijn

I agree with both of you. I think, that your idea microfox is very nice but on the other hand I think, that johanromijn is right. That's pretty much what we already have. The latest ROM releases have been a bit unsuccessful both because of bad OS cores and therefore the "normal way" didn't work. But when you look at the v1.1x releases there where very few bugs and the ones that where reported where constantly fixed until v1.13 was the final bug-free release. As would v1.23 have been if it wasn't for the bad OS core.

So I think when monx now goes back to a more stable OS build we will very soon have a new stable ROMeOS release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] millz:
OK thnx for the answere DeepThought.

i'll wait for Monx new rom.....he's the best !
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrvanx:
Yer i guess the forum is pretty much a large ammount of beta testers but there are always members who complain when something doesnt work correctly (havent seen that in this thread yet/at all) which can be a bit discouraging to developers, a closed beta is sometimes a good idea especially if you are experimenting with cooking for the first time :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] microfox:
That's the idea, monx unfortunately can't test every single feature in the ROM due to lack of time or resources so technically he won't know if the chosen build is stable or not. So that's why we test, maybe later on the team will help the ROM in taking some personality maybe with more TF3D themes.

Maybe the team can build their own AppStore version like PDM. SO what I am thinking in is not just the beta testing but a full project team work with many resources and minds that can make Raphael owners more than happy.

Don't know if you like it or not guys but that's what in my mind frankly.

+1 to mrvanx

Waiting to hear from monx.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
microfox, you have convinced me! ;)

@monx

If you do a closed beta release please count me in.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TheUnlockr:
Only one issue yet to be addressed for me...

When I use any of your ROMs and I click on a link in an email it opens internet explorer instead of opera. Can't get it for the life of me to open it in Opera instead!

Fix in the new version? Or anyone know a way to fix it in settings somewhere?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Jessops:
ROMeOS 1.23 - some observations and issues

For three days I have been using v. 1.23 and I can say at least two very good thing about it:)

1. Incredibly fast !

2. Very stable !

Now, the most serious issue is with iGO 2008. I have tried to instal it but I was not successful at all. Is it only my case or general problem with MWindows Pro 6.1?

Finally, I decided to change radion to ver. 32 and it was a big mistake. Now my GPS is really dead, so I will have to go back to ver. 28.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
monx already wrote that he will change the default browser to opera in his next release (v1.40).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
Have you had iGO running successfully on a different ROM before? I'm asking because the initial version of iGO8 aka iGO 2008 was not running on TP. It was a problem within iGO. It just could not address the memory correctly because TP has such a huge build-in storage. They have fixed that problem and in later builds iGO runs perfectly.

A lot of people who have tested the .32 radio have reported that it is very bad regarding to GPS. radio ver .28 currently seems to be the best radio for most of us.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Die Bruine:
About the testing. Nothing wrong with making it public. However, I would like to suggest to stick with the current build if it is good. And stick with it until 99% of the bugs have been fixed. This way there will be a good and stable ROM for everyone. I bet a large amount of users prefer stability over speed. And I am sure you can make a stabel ROM if you stick with it. So please do and give stability a chance for more than two weeks :D

Just my humble constructive 2 cents ;)

And keep up the good work!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
I bet that's monx opinion too. But in the latest releases v1.2x and v1.30 it was not possible to stay with the current build until all problems have been fixed because the problems where caused by the build itself. If you look at the v1.1x release monx did exactly what you wrote. He released three "beta" releases from v1.10 to v1.12 until v1.13 was his final release. As would v1.23 have been if it wasn't for the faulty OS core.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] utvol06:
really..i;ve had better luck with reception and GPS fixes with .32 over .28.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Mr.Panda:
Um just some feedback, changing from Three to Optus/Vodafone worked fine. No problems infact im not professional but on first appearance it seems the OPTUS/Vodafone stock ROM is much faster, (performance wise and responsive wise) than my Three " 190.861.7 " rom.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
Well, radios can't easily be compared like ROMs because the right radio depends on to many factors. So everyone has to find the perfect radio for him/herself.

I personally had better 3G reception with .32 radio but worse GPS reception. And regarding to the Radio Thread it most of the people reported similar experiences. But some where happy with it like you are.

Like I said... not so easy to compare. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ulukai3:
Hi guys, I just bought a new Touch Pro and was unpleasantly surprised by non-english os. Therefor I decided to try a new and tweaked rom. Now I have found out that 1.3 is consideret a failed version.

I can't decide if I should try 1.13 or wait for 1.4. I'm not asking for a release date, but just some rough estimate if 1.4 is a question of days or rather weeks/months?

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
As far as I know monx by now you can expect v1.40 within the next couple of days. If you don't want to wait you should go for v1.13 since it is the latest release which is really considered bug-free.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ulukai3:
Thanks for the reply. I think I can wait a few days. I would go for 1.13 if 1.4 could be expected in a few weeks, month or so. I'm new to htc and windows mobile so I don't have idea how long does this stuff take :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
It usually takes ages if you wait for the vendors to release something but here on xda-devs everything goes very quickly! ;)

Otherwise ROM-yunkies like me would not know what to do :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
Friends, v1.40 is ready but sorry because I cant upload it @ office.

I will bring along my 4930G:) this evening & will try to upload before 1700HRS GMT+8.

Thanks alot for ur greatest support ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Scann69:
Very good...very good indeed :D Just waiting for the file to be uploaded :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
@Scann69

Bang, that day u asked about Mapking2007 right? sorry I missed that.

Just FYI, I've tested it last weekend (around KL only) & everything seems fine. I'm still using stock Asia Radio.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] microfox:
That was fast. Good job monx. Waiting for it though.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ZoZo2:
Hi, isn't 19974 a regression compared to 20755+ ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] microfox:
In my opinion and others the 19974 is the most stable ever. Nice that monx picked it as the new build.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ZoZo2:
I didn't notice any problems with stability. I do however notice serious performance issues, especially the time it takes to go from portrait to landscape mode when sliding the keyboard out. It's disastrous. Does 19974 handle this better ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] athanaso77:
I agree with you and just hopping to be that fast too! ;)

@monx:

Thanks for everything! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DimitrisC:
Great!!! I just can't wait to go home and flash the new rom! I am using v.12 now and I've been waiting for a stable release. Thnx Monx. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Very great news Monx :D

I'm really looking forward to flash this new build

I thought i saw ~17.00 GMT+8,this means about one hour to go :)

Take your time Monx,i will keep an eye on this topic.

When the download is available i will flash it immediately.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] paulyluca:
Looks like ROM is beeing uploaded right now... : http://monx.aplace4u.biz/ROMeOS2RAPHAEL/ENG/
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Strange,this isn't mentioned on the first page of this topic.

By the way,where did you get this url form Monx?

I didn't know about this,and this will be the right version of v1.40?;)

Edit: I suppose this isn't the right version of v1.40,cause it's only 23mb, as you know that v1.30 was 75mb

It's better to wait for Monx I believe.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TAEL:
Download : http://monx.aplace4u.biz/ROMeOS2RAPHAEL/ENG/@ROMeOS2_140_19974_061108_ENG.zip

This is URL of Monx's host space. You can see Post#3 for more info .
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] paulyluca:
Thats why I said "it is beeing uploaded". After upload is complete, there will be the rigt size. And, if you check where the extended cabs are stored, you will see it is the same adress.So yes, it is Monx's.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Yes,i saw it's the right url of Monx.

But i will wait if Monx will reply on this topic if the upload of v1.40 is ready :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TAEL:
Me too . I want to download it officially! LOL.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I agree with you mate,same for me ;)

To be honest i don't think we still have to wait for a long time :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
Friends, v1.40 uploaded. This is still not the final though.

I still need ur help to catch all possible bugs. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Great Monx,thanks a lot for the work you did ;)

I am downloading it now and will flash it immediately :)

Can you tell me if the Active Sync issue is solved in V1.40?

I will let you know if there are some other issues.

Thanks again mate.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dansblackcat:
I'm flashing now......my phone that is. :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
Thanks mate, I'm still connected & syncing with my exchange server since 8.30AM (GMT+8). My company is using exchange server 2007 & I set my device to sync Email only. Other items are not tested.

BTW, the activesync will force using GPRS if direct push is enabled. I'm not sure if this is a normal behaviour. But logically, WiFi connectivity is limited to certain places but GPRS is more flexible.

Somebody pls confirm this especially if u tested it using stock ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
You're welcome mate ;)

When AS is forcing GPRS,that isn't a problem for me at all.

I thought this was the same in my Vodafone stock rom,but i'm not 100% sure about it.

But you have to enable direct push manually,i thought this was done automatically when you configure AS.

I will do the test also with agenda,tasks and contact persons,those options are quite important for me.

And you also did a test when you setup AS to check i.e. every 5 minutes?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Prille:
I'm sorry to ask what this rather strange request, but dos anyone have a HTC home cab that works on Raphael, because if you install a normal htc home it displays very small...

Thx for your answer, and the excellent ROM(s)

Tom
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] korps:
RS link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/161136954/_ROMeOS2_140_19974_061108_ENG.zip.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] darkelf_00101:
Hey Monx this build rocks.... i didnt think the ol TP had it in her....Fast and solid...so far
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I am flashing this rom now,i will come back with my experience later on.

If you have flashed this rom,let us know what you think about it.

Please report issues and bugs.

Try to report this in detail and not just say ...this or that ...doesn't work.

I am looking forward to hear the experience of ROMeOSv1.40.

@Monx,you really did a great job mate :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dansblackcat:
Seems to be very good so far.

TomTom and Garmin work great, however its raining outside so I haven't had a good play with them yet.

GPS - works

Messenger - works

Bluetooth - works

Haven't found anything not working.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] taiseer999:
Great job man, I see that PP is set to zero :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I am testing it now,but i can't find anything what isn't working.

Active Sync is working :D

Monx,you are the best and made this ROM a winner !!

I'll keep in touch.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] h11g:
How did you see that taiseer?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I also would like to know that ;)

I know that when PP is set to 0 the rom is faster,and i must confirm this rom is really fast :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kevlar-Source:
Because instead of of the standard page pool 12 and the hard coded strings '03 15 A0 03' you can find '00 15 A0 03' which means page pool 0 i.e. dynamic page pool.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] taiseer999:
Hex edit via PC
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ulric72:
What about excessive battery drain?

I have just flashed PDAviet with the same build and this issue.

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Very good question ;)

I had PDAviet before on my TP.

A very good ROM,but battery life was quite bad :(

Hopefully this will be better in ROMeOSv1.40 :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ulric72:
Me too, I hope this! But I would like to see some direct answers about battery usage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Kevlar-Source:
DevHealth

If you use DevHealth [thank you JCEspi2005 for introducing me to this great tool] you can see it directly on the PPC :)

Run it, wait a few minutes and find detailed info about every allocated resource, page pool, processes, etc...

It is quite an interesting tool... You should give it a go :)

1. Find it attached.

2. Run it and wait a few minutes [3 to 5] for the process to be concluded.

3. Read the newly created - and quite extensive - text file - Mem_x.txt - on the

root

of the SD Card.

Cheers.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I don't want to be too negative,but i think it's the same as PDAviet.

Maybe I am wrong,but this is my experience.

I just installed some programs on my device,and my battery went down from 98% to 88% :(

I hope this had to do with installing the programs,and i hope this will not happen with normal daily use of the phone.

With PDAviet this was a huge problem for me,last night at 23.00 pm the battery was on 72%.

When i got awake at 07.00 my battery was empty,and no programs where running i thought :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] taiseer999:
Thanks pal, interesting find- thanks for the tip :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I saw a little strange thing with Active Sync,but maybe it's normal.

When i delete a mail from my TP,this mail is still on my exchnage server(webmail)

After clicking on send/receive or sync manually the mail is deleted from my exchange server(webmail)

This was the same in PDAviet Rom,is this normal?

Edit: I just saw that the mail isn't deleted immediately,but after a while(when another mail arrives or when you change a task,agenda item,etc)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] DeepThought:
@rimoog

How does Microsoft like to call it: This behavior is by design. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Hi mate ;)

So this seems to be normal?

In this case,i will accept it like it is :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
@rimoog

First of all, this ROM has same SYS (OS) build with ur mentioned ROM, but different base.

For battery issue, did u still use stock radio or u have change it?

If u r still using stock radio, pls overwite ur rilphone.dll form stock rom. If u r using different radio, pls revert it.

For Mail issue, I think it is depends on ur connection or server responds. (+DeepThought)

Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Hi Monx,thanks for your reply.

I am using Radio 1.02.25.28 , this ssems to be fine or not?

I just saw another strange thing.

When i check my device information i see ROMeOS v.1.30 WWE :confused:

But when i start my device i see V1.40 .
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] the guitarist:
hello monx,

thanks for the great rom...i've flashed the rom and it's almost perfect except for the battery issue...what did you mean by revert it?!...my stock radio was .19 and i flashed the .28 yesterday...plz clarify some more thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
@rimoog

Sh!t, forgot to edit that.

U can change it easily by editing this registry :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM]

ROMVersion"="rimoog" :)

@theguitarist

Is there any different when using the .28 radio?

If no, pls revert to .19 back. If yes, pls find other rilphone.dll until the battery % is displayed correctly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Thanks,i changed this :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Mince69Meat:
behavior is by design

@DeepThought LOL ye! u got that right @rimoog Have seen this before with webmail and WM6, can't remember where as it was a lont time ago, its a MS bug I beleve
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
In this case I will accept the MS bug or what it is ;)

Regarding the battery issue,i am using radio .28 already some weeks.

With v1.12 the battery life was perfect,with PDAviet it was quite a problem.

Now with V1.40 i think the same issue as i had with PDAviet :(

I suppose changing radio will not make any different.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
Ok guys, got to go back home now, I hope god will send somebody to give additional WiMax antenna so my home connection will alive :p

I really need ur help to report as many bugs as possible. If no major issue, I will continue to cook for other language version as our other friends still stuck @ v1.12 :o
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dansblackcat:
What program is it so that I can see what applications I have running by clicking on the arrow on the task bar?

I'm kind of used to having it there?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] monx®:
PhamQuang is using most AT&T OEMDrivers but mine is only using the new D3D Drivers. So, maybe it is the SYS problem. But mine is OK so far or maybe u could change the phcanoverbmp.dll to default one if ur battery % still annoying u :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
It's called HTC Task Manager.

You can download the Cab here http://monx.aplace4u.biz/ROMeOS2RAPHAEL/EXTCABS/

After the install you need to do a soft reset ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
What will be the positive thing if i change the phcanoverbmp.dll ?

Better battery life?

And where can i change that exactly?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] microfox:
Dear All,

Regarding the Exchange issue. I think there is a registry entry that will force send/receive when you make any changes to your mail.

I need more investigations on this and come back to you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
That would be great :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dansblackcat:
Hmmm. That was the 1st one I tried but it never has the icon in the top corner like in the attached pic.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
Make sure you startup your phone again(soft reset) after the installation.

I just installed it and after the soft reset i have that icon on my phone ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] athanaso77:
I think monx means that the battery performance is correct, but the % indication is wrong.

And he means that you have to find the default phcanoverbmp.dll from the official ROM in order to replace monx's one. But... i don't want to have that limitation. :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dansblackcat:
Still doesn't appear for me. Maybe I have a conflict with something else I have installed?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
For the moment i will leave it as it is.

I will keep an eye on it and looking forward to the experience of other users of V1.40 ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Hatemd:
Well done Monx...

Downloading now, will test and post the feedback if any.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] tf1:
Thank you for this release.

can you do that in french ?

best regard
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Louington:
Have you got it set to show from the settings?

Settings > System Tab > Task Manager > Button Tab > "Enable Quick Menu on Today Screen" checkbox

Try that and let us know if it helps!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] varvag1:
Hello! Nice and fast rom but i really dont like the icons in programs and settings! Does anybody know how to restore the defaults?

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] dansblackcat:
Lol - It needs to be installed to 'device' NOT 'storage card' ... me silly.

Cheers for the help anyway player :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ccube:
I've got the same problem. The settings are alright. Perhaps someone knows how to solve. :)

Edit:

The version supplied in this Thread is much newer than mine. Ill try the newer one...

Edit:

Now it is working like it should. :)

Thank you for this really awesome ROM!!!! :)

Its the best one for me :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I have tested a lot of this great Rom :)

To be honest I can't find anything what doesn't work :D

For me this is the best Rom i have ever used!

Monx,i really appreciate your work and I will make a little donation ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] ulric72:
So I did not understand if there is a real battery drain issue or a simple problem on displayed value.

Someone can say it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] h11g:
Cheers! Gonna try this. Hope its as speedy as pdaviet's
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] rimoog:
I'm not sure this has to do with the displayed value.

At the moment i have my phone on the charger,when it's 100% i will see what happens.

My first experience is that there is a battery drainage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] paulyluca:
Tested new ROM for a hour or so, and, so far, no bug or problem to report. Speed: amazing, as always in ROMeOS;).
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] GazzaK:
I'm getting very tempted to test this rom, but I'm scared ( :eek: ) it being my first rom update and all. (just got my first WM mobile)

I know I "could" brick the device, so need to somehow try to justify it to myself first, anyone want to post some for's and against's?
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] fhk:
Hello

I'd like to second this very good question. I'm quite confused at exactly the same point. If this is just a display problem I would be very happy with a more detailed description of the solution (swapping a certain dll??)

Thx Monx for your efforts.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] Scann69:
Thanx for the confirmation. Out of 3 times i use Mapking, twice it will freeze on me. I've changed the radio back to .19 but still same problem. Will give 1.40 a go over the weekend and see if that helps :)

Great ROMs you're making ;)