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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
NEVERMIND I REINSTALLED THE LANGUAGE PACK AND ALL IS GOOD :)

* Issues:

* Model:

HTC Touch vogue 6900

* Language:

English

* Previous keyboards installed:

Diamond/touchpal

* Previous SIP changer installed:

none

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked):

OEM HTC

* Main Keyboard cab installed (NoKbd, KPad, CpKbd, FullKbd):

NoKbd

* Language Packs installed on the Keyboard:

none

* Description of the issue:

full qwerty will not display

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?:

no tried uninstalling everything including other keyboards and still no luck.

* Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?:

?

any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Petulinek:
With czech cab support installed änd enabled or not installed any language cab...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] slikkie:
CTRL function

How can i use CTRL function with EZinput ??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wisniak:
Maybe this can help regarding Hebrew characters:

http://egccrq.bay.livefilestore.com...BM/smartdialing_2.5.30426_HEBREW.CAB?download
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Unfortunately not. The cab has just a few registry keys in it, nothing else. It has nothing to do with this application. The core of a locale layout is its T9 dictionary, and I haven't yet found support for it on HTC applications.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wisniak:
I'll ask about this in the local PDA forum.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] S.V.I:
Russian language pack is available in the diamond oem by gullum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=392197

I am having an issue though:

the softkey bar covers up the keyboard on the bottom.

otherwise works.

EDIT: Had instaled gulums keyboard first; language pack second; your cab last.

after hardreset (because I could not uninstall your cab) i just installed the cab 20key. did not work for me. neither did gullums lang pack (rus)

going to try the full keyboard. going to check the difference between files, reg etc. perhaps it was the registry merge that alowed the language pack to work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You quoted all the Language Packs post, but it seems you have not noticed what is written in red:

Language Packs from other packagers won't be compatible with the main cabs found in post #1, nor these ones will be compatible with Keyboard cabs made by other packagers.

In this particular case, you are using wrong layout mapping files and wrong graphics. The keyboard used by Gullum was a pre-release for the Diamond rom, in QVGA but with a different size than the one used in the Opal.

The Opal EzInput has a different layout map hardcoded in, and uses smaller graphics. Mixing things this way can led to unpredictable results, most of the times. That's why you can't unstall this cab.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] S.V.I:
Found a complete fix for the russian keyboard (diamond)

I think that these files will be useful to you. they are from diamond, but I believe they are interchangeable.

The package has the original GFX. (unacceptable size) I scaled them to 10% of what they used to be. Everything works very well. there's just one catch: it is in RU. so I think that you will just need to copy everything but the EXE DLL MUI and should work.

what is the difference between the diamond keyboard and opal anyway? I did not notice. (not a rhetorical question)

http://rapidshare.com/files/164204921/DiamondKeyboard__1_.zip

I just uploaded a RU/EN cab I built with all the exe's and dll's from opal (unless I am mistaken) send me your exe's and dlls just to make sure. for some reason I could not pull the cab appart.

This cab is upxed. and the graphics are located in a separate folder in \Windows\KBDGFX . Less strain on reading the windows folder with file explorer and easyer to skin. It only has stuff for two languages. Others can not be added without registrys + files.

Like I said, send me your dll's and exe's just to make sure.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I appreciate your help, but I have already ALL the files, from the Opal RUS rom.

Unfortunately, the RUS rom is missing the layout mapping fiiles for Landscape.

The difference between the Opal and the Diamond is that the layout mapping files have VGA coordinates, in the Diamond files. I have the layout coordinates for QVGA portrait, but not for QVGA Landscape, and these must be built from scratch, the files from Diamond cannot be used.

Moreover, the Russian keyboard needs a special EzInput library, on which only the English/Russian combo can be added, and not the other languages. The functionality of the Symbol key has changed, since it just gives you a way to switch between English and Russian, and the users of the other languages would like to keep the classic Symbol key. So, to make a Language Pack for Russian that will work like the other LPacks, the library will have to be patched.

The settings you've sent will create conflicts with the standard ones used in the main cabs. Could you please remove them ?

If you have access to newer RUS rom than this one, your help will be more than welcome, but please send me the files via a PM.

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Greek Language Pack is out

Thanks to the new Elfin rom which supports Manila2D :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] S.V.I:
Weel, it's just a matter of time I guess. I spent all weekend repackaging the cab they had from diamond. was 5mb. now 1.5mb:D

maybe you could provide my link as an alternative for other russian users in the meantime. At least there is somewhat of a solution.

http://xdaforums.com/atta...0&d=1226829645

This is the cab that I FINISHED.

Has landscape support, but need to tap twice to activate it.

It may be useful for those who need the keys, but can't wait for us to get them a proper cab yet.

PM me your package. maybe I can get it on to 4pda and get some help from my comrades:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsixda:
EzInput and Java

Does anyone have problems entering numbers/symbols when using this keyboard in ABC mode (not T9) in a Jbed Java applet?

For example, in both Opera Mini and Gmail for Java, if I use this keyboard and try to enter numbers or symbols in a URL or text box, usually the characters get highlighted and the cursor does not advance, so I have to press the direction button to go forward. This happens on my Elfin. As a workaround I select T9 and it works fine... so it's only ABC mode that causes this. Also the default windows keyboard (with the tiny keys for stylus) doesn't have this issue.

Dupin said he didn't have this issue. I was using Esmertec Jbed (both the February 2008 and June 2008 versions).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Hi dsixda,

you have the issue even on the Esmertec version I'm using ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dancer_69:
When I saw that greek language pack is available I deside to test htc keyboard on my eten glofiish X600(no hardware keyboard).

Unfortunatly doesn't work in a usable way. The full keyboard doesn't show at all and in the other 2 keyboard layouts I cannot write any letter but only numbers and symbols. This happens and in main english cab installation and after install the greek keyboard. And it happens no matter if I change any option from options menu.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
This happens because you've not selected your language.

Once you install a main cab for your device, you have to install a Language Pack and then select it from the Settings->Input application. On that page, select Options, and then your Language.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kidnamedAlbert:
okay im not sure if this has been brought up before. but if you navigate to HKLM/Software/HTC/ezsip

and change the value of "BioToShowMenu" from 0 to 1, the nice popup sip menu shows(as soon as you change the value, no need to press sip menu triangle thing) but only when you change that value. the value doesnt seem to stay.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dancer_69:
Of course I did it, but I still cannot write any letters.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I know it very well :D

As the below text once said... it's a driver issue ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
And then there must be something wrong in your registry, but that's quite strange, since greek is the only one apart from English which uses special registry settings for all four layouts.

On my clean rom I've just intalled the NoKbd cab, then the Greek LPack, made a soft reset and then chosen the greek language from options, and it works. I have even a PM from a Greek users who thanks me for the keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsixda:
That's correct, I changed my ROM to use the exact one you mentioned in the PM, and I still got the issue.

Oh, and just another note -

Under HKLM/Software/Tegic/eT9, I have CustomClassNames = "JBED_TEXTFIELD" but it's not a multistring field. I'll try to change it from string to multistring. (EDIT: That didn't seem to help either)

This doesn't seem right:

"CustomClassNames"=hex(7):\
4A,42,45,44,5F,54,45,58,54,46,49,45,4C,44,00,00
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Greek layout issue

While I was testing the Greek layout, I've discovered that the mapping layout made by HTC for it doesn't match with the graphics layout, for the Phone Keypad:

The one above is the graphics layout made by HTC for the QVGA devices.

And this is the layout made for WVGA devices.

The programmers at HTC have mixed the layouts, by giving us the graphics in the first image with the mapping of the second. As a result, when you'll type on the Phone Keypad you'll get the wrong letters.

Now the question is: what is the correct layout, as found on Greek phone keyboards ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You have to use a Multi_SZ value for that.

I've made that test on a clean rom, with the included Esmertec app, EzInput an Opera Mini 4.1.11320,20080514.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
the wvga is the correct layout for greek lang
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsixda:
According to CERegEditor, it is a REG_MULTI_SZ.

Would you be able to export your value and paste it here?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
It's just "JBED_TEXTFIELD", indeed. A single value.

But you need to use a MULTI_SZ because it could host other class names too.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Holy HTC !!! :mad:

It means I'll have to rebuild from scratch another layout...

Resizing the WVGA one makes a terrible result...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsixda:
Yes, that's what I tried. It says "REG_MULTI_SZ" in the CERegEditor, which seems to mean multi-string.

Is this what you have?

"CustomClassNames"=hex(7):\

4A,42,45,44,5F,54,45,58,54,46,49,45,4C,44,00,00
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I don't get it that way, with PHM regedit, but that is the hex representation of the string. I don't know what should tell you that it's a MULTI_SZ, in that way.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Indeed you are correct, from a Greek point of view.

Anyway, contrary to what you stated, Diamond phones all use the first layout, as well as Raphael, Opal and Jade.

If you have a photo of a Greek hardware Phone Keypad to confirm what you say, I might consider a future rebuild from scratch of the graphics.

Instead now, to maintain consistency with all the previously shipped phones, I'll patch the mapping layouts to make them match with the graphics layout.

Since I'm going to post Language Packs for the VGA phones too, rebuilding everything all over from scratch would be too much of a burden.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dsixda:
But do you think this field has something to do with my prob?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
CustomClassNames is indeed the value on which you have to add the names of the classes with wich you want to add compatibility with EzInput.

But to know if it's just a registry issue, you could just simply reinstall the main cab over your rom and see if something changes. If not, you'll have to clean your rom and install the simple configuration I'm using here, to narrow down the issue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
yes the diamond phones use the first layout but its all wrong when you go to right an greek text (abc and t9 they dont work) but if you use the graphics from the second layout you will see that is all right.

for me the right way is to create a new graphics for the phone keypad

i don't know if when you patch the mapping is going to work everything ok because as i told you the abc and t9 works perfect with the second layout.

but for now i'm waiting to test the patched files and lets hope they working well
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
It's now clear that due to an old layout error from HTC, the Phone Keypad layout doesn't follow the Greek alphabet in the right order. I cannot simply use the graphics from the second layout, because we'll end with a very bad quality so, to maintain consistency with the previous layout, I'm patching the mapping file.

I understand your point of view, but this requires time, time is money, and I'm doing everything for free - just two users have donated on over 8000 downloads. So you'll get the mapping files.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Tim4:
* Issues: Full Qwerty doesn't have any graphics

* Model: HTC Touch Dual

* Language: WWE

* Previous keyboards installed: Touch Dual original

* Previous SIP changer installed: NO

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): HTC 6.1

* Main Keyboard cab installed (NoKbd, KPad, CpKbd, FullKbd): FullKBD

* Language Packs installed on the Keyboard: English

* Description of the issue: Full Qwerty doesn't have any graphics

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: NO

* Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?: Just install .cab of the keyboard

I will try HR
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] J0nas:
try soft-reset before HR and set your languange on keyboard settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
To what J0nas suggests, I'd add that since you are using a Touch Dual, you should have installed a CpKbd or KPad version, not the Full Keyboard one...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
The patched files with the Diamond Greek layout are out.

If any user could send me a photo of a Greek hardware phone keypad, it would really be welcome.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
YOU are the man.

I've tested all the keyboards in all modes t9 and abc they work... :D:D

they work perfect abc and t9 mode is working great
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seentr:
I couldnt use it on my prophet. I tried all version of release but doesnt work. I searched the topic that some guys use it with prophet. I am using 1d turtle rom. What you think about my problem please help me :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Uninstall of the previous keyboards is recommended

1] Download the NoKbd cab. Install it on your phone.

2] Download your language pack. Install it on your phone.

3] Make a soft reset.

4] Go to Settings -> Input and choose your input language from the list

If - even after these steps - the keyboard won't work, check with the author of the rom what he could do to help you clean the registry a bit, and retry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seentr:
Tnx for your help but after i do that i just can write numbers:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Try another soft reset, then. The phone might need to delete some older protected files, to allow you use your language selection.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seentr:
Now i am trying in different rom. it didnt work again :'( i really need a keyboard like that i touchpal is not working without t9 so i get crazy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You have a bad luck with roms then... Try to find another one, maybe one which doesn't use Manila2D.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seentr:
Hmm maybe manila cause it. but i really like it i dont know what can i do :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
No, the cause it's not Manila2D by itself, but how the author of the rom has cooked it in. There's something wrong in your registry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seentr:
I tried with 3. rom and same problem. Do you have any idea about which registery part?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Can you use a registry editor ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GrimD:
I have the same problem:

* Model: HTC Elf

* Language: WWE

* Previous keyboards installed: basic keyboard

* Previous SIP changer installed: NO

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): 6.1 Cooked

* Main Keyboard cab installed (NoKbd, KPad, CpKbd, FullKbd): NoKbd

* Language Packs installed on the Keyboard: English

* Description of the issue: Full Qwerty doesn't have any graphics

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: NO

* Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?: Just install .cab of the keyboard
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
And so you just copy his report and change the device type ?

His report is quite bad, so the same apply to you. What do you mean, then, by "Just install .cab of the keyboard" ?

By just installing the cab, nothing will work. You have to install a language pack over it. Soft Reset, and then select the language.

Have you done it ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Cal-El:
It works great for me on my herald! Good job, great keyboard! :) Just install the keyboard cab, reset, install the language cab, reset! Worked like a charm first time! Thank you!:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] seentr:
Yes i can ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, dump your HKLM/Software/HTC/ezSip and HKLM/Software/Tegic subkeys, and post them here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] GrimD:
Ya Sorry ingnore my rambalings, what I get for trying to install new stuff at mindnight instead of sleeping. I saw dose not include any language as dose not include any language but english as I'm insaine. Figured it out and was just comming to say to ignore me but you had all ready replied.

But the report can have been that bad if you managed to figure out the problem ;-)

So over all it was a ID Ten T error (ID10T) :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] K0mmaT1A:
Hey, thanks for all the great job first of all.

I have Greek keyboard installed, there is an issue if you know with greek characters in sms, some of the characters turn maximum sms length from 160 to 70chars (encoding issue). The problem exists for all small (non capital) characters.

With the default greek characters in this release (as it is for most of other keyboards) the problem exists even in some Capital chars.

The workaround till now is editing the keyboard map, to have at least the capital letters not causing the 70 chars max sms length.

I'm attaching the file that I use for sms chars in resco keyboard, with this file Capital Greek letters can be send without problem. Maybe it can help?

There is no solution for small greek letters, as far as I know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I have no useful experience on the Resco keyboard, so you should help me a bit more with useful example about:

1] what causes the issue.

2] How does it gets solved

All I know is that the Greek alphabet needs Unicode, which means that each character is actually composed by two bytes. Is this, the actual problem ?

In case, I don't understand how it could be solved so, please explain.

The map you give me is obviously a character map, but I have no time to understand what it says. I'll be glad to receive further info from you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] K0mmaT1A:
Ok I will gather everything I can about the problem so we can find a solution.. I will need some time... What I got so far:

The problem: All keyboards send unicode sms if you use any other character other than "7-bit gsm" but I think all greek letters can be send in 1 character. I think this is possible because normal phones (nokia, sony... all) can send greek letters even the small ones in 160 char sms. I will keep searching to find the exact problem...

Idea's for solution:

1. Is it possible to change the encoding of the sms from ISO 8859-1 to ISO 8859-7 that is the Greek one?

2. Is it possible to edit an sms including the right characters, so we can find which ones other phones use, so all characters arrive readable in Greek telephone networks?

3. Maybe if we use ascii codes from link 3 below?

Some info

1. http://www.smsmac.com/help/discover/about-sms/gsm7bit/

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859-7

3. http://www.tachyonsoft.com/iso88597.htm

Thanx for the interest, I will keep searching, this issue is the most important in all Greek pda users, so you will have a hell of a lot of thanks ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aalim:
i need a package with the qwerty keyboard only without the keypad and the other keyboard

which files to remov from OEM package

is this possible??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
mmmh... I don't know if it will be possible to change the encoding on a WWE Rom. And certainly it cannot be done on these apps, it's a broader issue.

Have you considered opening a thread in the General section ?

Anyway, the set in table 3 is Unicode, is double-byte.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] K0mmaT1A:
Yes I agree it's a bigger issue, we just have to start from somewhere :)

The 2 proposed solutions from others are,

1. Either Dynamically convert any typed character to GSM standard when in SMS mode (which I think is not possible here)

2. Have a separate map for SMS which will type the GSM standard character instead of the unicode one when writing an SMS.

Eitherway if you will use one map for Greek language, these are send in doublebyte: E,P,T,Y,I,O,A,H,K,Z,X,B,N. You must replace them with the english ones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I don't know if these can be changed with the standard app for SMSs.

The problem is that on each map I have only the codes for the lowercase chars, and that the uppercase ones are derived automatically. That way, you'll end with a mixed Greek/Latin alphabet - a mess.

The only thing that could be done is to give you access to those Latin uppercase characters in the first Symbol pages, but it would be quite cumbersome because you'll have to switch to Symbols each time.

No more than this, and it doesn't even seem a good solution...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
well here i am... :D

the 70 characters in Greek phones is well know years now and the solutions is always just stupid ill say. (etc, resco keyboard after replacing the file it rights 160 chars only in uppercase format )

some other greek keyboards here

As i know the Greek htc had develop Greek menu and keyboard with 160 chars for the Greek htc phones and the responsible files for converting and setting in HTC Diamond 160 chars are these two as i have read in forums.

the problem is that all the people in the Greek htc forum are handle like the own the software and no one of them shares nothing.

i have manage to find 3 off them from a Greek files rom extracted in my disk now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, a bit off-topic, but at least it's good to see that there's life outside and not just people who downloads and don't even say thanks.

I should have started with Greek as first Language Pack :D

Anyway, do you have any registry info linking to those files, to know whether it would be possible to make a cab for them ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
now but i will see what i can find... thnks :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Alexisferos:
Huston we have a lift off...

OK the news are that here the people have the files for 160 chars and registry info in cabs.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=410558

i have test in my phone this 2 files BUT i had small problem :D :D:D

the Gr_CM-WM6.1 just change the menu that you choose keyboards from English to Greek and some other settings in t9 all in greek now, etc.

the Gr_keyboard from ace hellas witch is supposed to send 160 chars it dosen't work in my cooked rom the phone stacks at smart mobility

(i have read all the posts there saying for not working with cooked roms)

but if you dont try you never know.

so a 3 button hard reset had to be made and the phone works just fine again...