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[FYT Android Head Units] seryser:
Hi gottahavit,

I was just looking at this model on aliexpress and this post comes in just in time as you would say. I have a 2017 STI with no HK

What is your experience with the Mic for calls? does it retain the factory mic or do we have to plug in a new one?

You mention codes for Dev, can you share these?

The console USB Adapter - Which one did you use? do you have a link?

Have you tested ODB2 with apps like Torque?

The External GPS antenna is it required for it to work?

What about the 4G antennas?

thanks so much!
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
So first, IDoing have been fantastic in helping with the right purchase and the support, but that said this suffers from a lot of issues the other MFG units do. If you had HK I'd def recommend the IDoing as it's plug and play works great.

However if you don't have the HK I might suggest you get a version with optical or coax out. I think Joying and Daisata sell the same unit but with one or the other cabling.

I don't really make calls, but have tested a couple and was told the mic is ok. No you can't keep the stock mic or GPS.

Codes:3368 for factory, 7171 for Launchers

USB: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DJ4KVQ6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 works perfectly.

No ODB2 here, should be the same as the Joying in another thread.

You need the GPS if you want waze or maps on the unit vs AA or Carplay. I just mounted it on the top of the unit and it works great.

4G works fine with Tmobile, I tested with a Mint mobile trial, but cannot get proper APNs in for Verizon SIm to work(still on my hit list)

I recommend the coax as so many of these unit suffer from some form of ground loop interference which is just annoying even if it doesn't really affect the sound. I had no choice given the HK system

Even with the HK this thing cranks our a lot more power than the POS subaru unit..

These things are great and all the work of install is getting the old unit out. It's not perfect but leaps and bounds above stock.

The other reason to go with Joying is you'll get more support here than you will with the IDoing(very specialized to subaru).

If you do buy from IDoing just chat with them first they will help you pick the proper unit and any canbus for your car.

I would definitely go with the UIS7862 version, as this thing is fast!
[FYT Android Head Units] seryser:
Thanks for all the information! Really clarifies what i need to get. Ill look at the joying unit and see what the differences are... There was also the Teyes CC3, but man is it more expensive but looks absolutely awesome
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Looking I see the unit 6+128 would be cool, but be careful, they all say forrester and have foreester button config for the top lcd and 4-wasy buttons. Maybe they have insert for WRX like IDoing. Also I don't see and coax or optical out, but just did quick search. Keep in mind that a lot of that marketing material is just that. I love my unit, but you can't believe everything you read. Also that's cheaper the IDoing or Joying. I think the key is make sure it has the key connections you want(optical, coax, HK my case) and that it fits your car.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Idoing is reseller of various types of kanged android head units.

Would be good to know factory/manufacturer or unit - sounds like it might be an FYT? You will then be able to know what rom options and mods are available from the forums.

Manufacturer can generally be identified from MCU version, what is the full MCU version listed?
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
IDoing is FYT, they are the only ones with the canbus for the HK system in my car, but that's fine for seryser as he/she has base stereo., but with no HK I recommend getting a unit with optical or coax.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Just a note on the WRX install, you will be tempted(as I was) to not drop the drivers air bag and try to get to the 10mm bolt on that side. DROP THE STUPID AIRBAG!!!!

It's really near impossible to get enough purchase on the bolt unless you do. I wasted an hour trying to not drop the air bag and gave up and had it done in 5 min.

When you put the new unit it, they are TIGHT, snap the clips at the bottom, bend in the clips at the top, then push REAL hard in the top of the screen to sanp the middle clips. They will snap in and what a beautiful fit this unit has. Make sure you run all your cables where you want them before you snap it in! You get 3 usb, I removed the cigarettes lighter under the unit and cut it and plugged it to have one USB in snapped in, ran the other two into the glove box along with the stock usb plug(was amazed it was long enough), then you just plug it into the adapter and one USB plug right in the glove box. Now I have one under the unit, one in the glove box, and 2 in the center console.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I just found the USB Mode toggle on the UIS7862 IDoing. It's the "..." menu at the root of developer setting. Two items in Chinese, top one is host mode, bottom is device mode. Got USB Debugging working fine even with usb-c cable from my laptop.
[FYT Android Head Units] ludditefornow:
A picture's worth a thousand words
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I can post pics later, but if you can get into developer settings. Immediately in the top right there is a menu button(...) click that and there is one option "USB Configuration", click that you get a popup with 2 options in it in chinese. The first is USB Host mode and the second is Device mode which will let you do USB Debugging from a laptop.

again this is on my IDoing, YMMV
[FYT Android Head Units] JAR99:
What a good review!!!

Really "irritating" the permanent buzz. Only dissapear with volume to zero every time I turn on the unit. If somebody find a fix i will be more than happy
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Yes I agree, at tis point it's the only real gripe I have with the unit. The thing is amazing compared to the crap that Subaru put in.

The issue seems to be pretty common on these chinese units, which is why if I didn't have the HK setup I would have bought one with Optical or Coax. Honestly you can't hear it when listening to music, but... If I ever pull the unit out again I will try to ground the board to see what that does.

IDoing has "tried" to be helpful, and they are extremely responsive on aliexpress.

I'm glad you found my review useful.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
So I managed to get APN setting for verizon to stick, and I ca see the verizon network if I use a replacement mobile network settings like from CWG, however even though it will connect and I have the APN it sitll won't get any mobile data on the verizon network. I'm beginning to think they have it hardcoded in the System to only work with t-mobile. Either that or Verizon is rejecting data requests from the device even tough it lets it connect. I've tried with both true Verizon Sim and an Xfinity Mobile Sim(Both verizon, but different APNs).
[FYT Android Head Units] speeddemon1891:
Do these buzz even if you don't have the hk?
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I believe they do, only way around it without playing with internals is to get one with the coax or optical out and use that, then it's digital to your amp.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
Think it might be possible to add some kind of pass-through filter/adapter to the RCA leads which could help reduce or eliminate the buzz?
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I think it's all been done with limited success. I have a Joying coming for my 2003 corevette that is essentially identical except no canbus. I will let yo know if it has the same sounds and will make at least limited attempts at grounding and insulating if it does. If I can improve it on the Joying then I will pull the IDoing out of the WRX and try the same.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
I don't imagine using optical/coax would be compatible with the OEM speakers out of the box? Wouldn't you need some kind of adapter before you can use the optical output with the OEM speakers?

edit: never mind. I assume the optical is supposed to go to an amp.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
you need an amp with optical. the HK in my WRX does not support nor does the bose in my corvette. However the Joying I'm getting does have optical should I ever decide to switch amps in the corvette(not likely it's 18 years old and going strong).
[FYT Android Head Units] GFinger240:
Just thought I'd chime in, I just bought a 7862 unit from Navifly. The RCA outs of my unit have the same noise that kinda ruins listening to music. My car uses an analog to proprietary optical box to get audio to the factory amp, so I added an optical to analog DAC, and now the sound is crystal clear with no noise whatsoever. If your car uses the line lever out of the radio and not the speaker out (speaker out is the Grey, White, Green and Purple wires), you can use any optical to analog DAC, and there are plenty that are USB powered.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Yes I thought about trying that for the Joying I just ordered for the corvette. We'll see how it sounds first. honestly i only hear the static when there is nothing playing, even dead audio in a song I don't hear it.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
SO question on this? what DAC did you use to get 4 channel out put control? Most of the ones I see are only 2 channel. DO you have a link to a 4 channel DAC? or 4.1?

UPDATE: ok i found a couple, not really for car. curious what you used? was it for car? how did you power? I'm thinking I really want to do this in my vette.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
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[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
@gottahavit I recently installed the exact same iDoing/Canbus in my 18 WRX with HK system. OP - have you or anyone tried anything further to remove the noise that is heard when no audio is playing and the system is not muted? I have the same constant light white noise/interference/signal sounds coming from mine that seem to change here and there but are constant.

Have you tried any other filters or grounding? I've been researching what to try but it's hard to figure out. It must have something to do with grounding no? There's gotta be something simple we can do to improve it at least somewhat.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I have not pulled the system out to try anything. I have a new Joying coming this week for my corvette that if it suffers same issue I will play around with options and let folks here know. I think the best solution to this for those without the HK will be to use the digital out version of this radio(not IDoing) and either go directly to amp or through a DAC. I will try both option and see how it makes out if the Joying has same issue. Then maybe pull the IDoing from the WRX and try(little afraid to pull the radio given how hard it was to seat it).

Honestly it's just an annoyance and it really doesn't affect audio quality to my ears.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
Just got my Idoing UIS7862 delivered. I'm testing it powered at my desk and hooked up to my speakers. I can already hear the buzzing :/

I think my desk speakers might be exaggerating it though. I'm gonna try to address this buzz a bit before I uninstall the OEM.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I think I'm going to order a power line filter and some Ferrite clip ons, if I don't need them on my Joying I can always go back an try them on the IDoing.

I put a cheap leftover single din JVC in my vette today to test all the other interface components and it's all working and completely free of buzzing, so now I just swap in the Joying(hoping for friday) when it arrives connected to all the same harnesses.
[FYT Android Head Units] GFinger240:
I'm using a home audio 2 channel, I have no need for anything else since I have to go 2 channel analog into the MOST interface. The one I'm using is overkill, I had an extra Wyrd4Sound uDAC at home, it can be powered via USB. It can technically be used as a USB DAC as well, but I haven't tried that. I'm eventually getting an amp with an optical in, so making sure that output is clean was my only concern. It really made a big difference in the sound quality, it brought new life to the factory HK system.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
I think an inline power filter might help. I'm running the unit off the 12v pin from a PSU, and the level of buzzing varies a lot depending on where I plug the PSU. The buzzing is highest and almost unbearable when plugged directly into the wall outlet. It drops significantly when the PSU is plugged into a power strip. And it's almost completely gone when I plug the PSU into my UPS (uninterruptable power supply.) It's a sinewave UPS that's supposed to stabilize the output power and remove electrical noise. I'm pleased to see it's doing its job so well, but now I need to figure out how to replicate this without a UPS.

update: I installed the unit in my car and I don't hear any buzzing. I haven't used any kind of power filter or anything to clean up electrical noise. It just works. Now waiting for a 12v to 6v converter to get the OEM camera working.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Well got my unit tonight, 7days from china..not bad. wired it up to the axxess an did quick fit check and powered it up(DON'T FORGET TO TURN ON AMP IN SETTINGS!!!) LOL

quick bluetooth sound test, checked balance and fade. All good.

The good.. Couldn't hear any buzzing on the speakers

The Bad... No buzzing so nothing to tweak in hopes of finding solution to WRX.

BUT it's raining so maybe I just couldn't hear it. Lots more to test tomorrow.

At least it all seems to work.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Cool, well mine is still not fully buttoned up yet if there is anything you can think of that I can test/try. I hate the thought of pushing the HU in all the way without fixing that sound first but I have no good ideas on what to try myself.

Is it worth it to look at the connections at the OEM HK amp side and try one of the noise filters on it? I assume they'd be RCA cables plugged into the amp?
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
Does anyone know how to have the unit completely turn off using the ACC delay or something else? I set it to 10 seconds and the screen turns off 10 seconds after I shut the car off. But when I go start it up again after an hour, the home screens turns on immediately as if it was on standby instead of booting up from a power off state.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
So I just went out to my Vette and stuck my ear right to the main speaker and there is the SLIGHTEST of backgrond hiss that goes away when I turn the volume to 0. So same idea as the IDoing, but FAR less noise. I am going to order a power line noise filter and see if that eliminates it, but I can't even hear this when sitting in the car with top up and doors and windows closed.

If you can wait a couple days I'd say have a powerline filter shipped and see what that does. For 10 dollars and 10 minutes to wire it might be worth it if you haven't snapped that sucker in place. I'm a big guy and that took some effort.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
That's what it's supposed to do. Yo don't want it to turn off every time you turn off the key. it take 40 seconds to cold boot. It goes to sleep after the delay you set, then after a few days it will power off completely to save battery. If you're worried about battery, I've had no issues.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
The unit I have boots up in under 20 seconds--it'll probably be longer after I've customized it more, but I really don't mind the wait. I'd rather know my battery is where I left it. It might not be an issue at all, but I'm thinking about wiring in a physical switch to cut power to the unit if needed.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Let us know if any luck. Do you have the HK system too?
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Absolutely I'll wait for one and try it. Are you doing the same or no?

Is it similar to this one or if not do you have a link to the one you mentioned?:

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And where exactly do I wire this up at? That's one thing I haven't been able to figure out. Can you help me with that? Is it somewhere behind the radio, somewhere at the speakers, somewhere at the HK amp?

Thanks.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
I was having issues with my battery dying overnight bc the iDoing was staying on in sleep mode. I did buy a new battery in case it was that but I also turned off the setting that causes it to only go to sleep when ACC is off, so now it fully powers down. The boot up time is no issue and it's pretty quick. Much better this way. I think it's in the Factory menu with code 3368 but if you need help finding it let me know.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Yes that's the one I ordered. For my vette it's easy to put it in after the fact. I'm not doing anything with the WRX until I know it's worth it, just because taking it apart again scares me ;-)
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
odd, I've had no issues and mine has sat for over a week and it had already powered itself off.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
Disabling sleep in the factory setting did the trick. Shuts off now, no problem.

Anyone got suggestions for snapping in the top clips?
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Muscle, Lots of Muscle! :)

So here's what I did...

1) put in the bottom clips,

2) Holding the bottom clips in bend the vent section to snap in the top, leaving center clips unclips

3) Now push real hard on the top corners of the screen and housing, until it clips, then repeat on the other size

4) Hope you never have to take it out!

I'm 6'1 220 and it wasn't easy.
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
Alternatively, if you have a pull-up bar laying around, it's pretty easy.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
LMAO, now that's creative. NICE JOB!
[FYT Android Head Units] abnormalreply:
Now we just wait for someone to root it. I see some of the Joying units have been rooted.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I think you can use the same method, have had no need to root so far. Joying nd IDoing are both manufactured by FYT and run the same images. I would post your firmware screen shots on the Joying forum and see what the gurus think.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
One reason to root would be to give write permissions (for system file and external storage devices) to file explorer apps other than the crap stock one they included which has no options. I can only edit flash drive files with that one app and it's awful, can't even fast scroll in a folder of thousands of songs.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Hey, so I got the noise filter. I'm confused on which wire on the iDoing harness to put this in-line on though. Check my pics. Do you know if the number 15 pin/wire aka the black wire on the harness really the 12v+/batt? To me the black color is throwing me off although I know you can't always trust the colors. I tried to match that wire to the connecting pin on the car harness that it plugs into but the black nor the yellow or red from the iDoing harness seem to go directly to the car's 12v+, so I'm confused.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I think you're upside down, your yellow should be Batt and Black is Grnd. If you hold it to the far right image I think you'll see yellow is 15 black is 16

I could be wrong, I don't have my Idoing plug or unit in front of me
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Check out the other pic I posted with the diagram on the iDoing though. The clip side of the plug is on the right of their sticker image and my pic shows the wires on the left side equivalent of the sticker image. So I'm not sure what to do.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
maybe I'm missing it, but if you hold your plug as if it was to plug into that diagram as opposed to it being a front picture of you plug, then it matches

See how #14 is Acc and that should be Red. I can't see you speaker wire black stripes but I bet they match up.

#13 is blue and that should be you ant. wire.

and you have 2 channels to the right of the black and only one channel 2 the left of the Ant switch.

I think that sticker is a picture of the connector on the unit, not you cable so it's mirrored.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Yeah that's what I did. If you hold the plug towards the sticker pic as if plugging into it, the flat side of the cable is the left side of the sticker pic, so black lines up with #15, yellow is #16, etc...

I may be wrong but I think you are seeing it backwards. The pic I sent of my harness is the flat/non-clip side, which I believe equates to the left side of that sticker (11-20).
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
So if the side youere showing is to the left as you pretend plug it in then from bottom #11,-15 yo would have white, white, blue,,red, Yellow. Maybe your pic is mirrored in the forum?

The you have blk, purple purple, white, white

pretend the sitcker is the plug hole to plug it onto and hold the plug up to it as if to plug it in.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
see if this helps

I labeled the sides and #'d 11-15
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Thanks but why do you think the gray is the top left of the sticker pic? The side of the harness I am showing is the non-clip flat side of the connector which is the left side of the sticker pic. Wouldn't that make the far white wire the upper left of the sticker pic?

EDIT: I think I'm just dumb..let me look at it all again lol.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Any luck?
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
Were you able to get it working, did it help the noise? Hoping you didn't cook your stereo!
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
Hey sorry for the delay. So I haven't wired up the noise filter yet because someone on a Subaru forum told me to try removing the small blade connector bracket from the back of the OEM HU and screw it on the back of the iDoing and connect the factory ground wire connector to it. I hadn't done this or thought to try it so I did and unfortunately it didn't make any difference. He thought because I didn't have the ground connected that some noise was comig through from an unclosed circuit of sorts, but no change sadly.

I will still try the noise filter, hopefully today or this weekend. Shouldn't take long. Not too hopeful but you never know. I will report back.

Question for you - have you figured out any way to re-enable the notifications in the iDoing's custom ROM without root? Obviously they customized it to totally disable all notifications from happening at all or showing up in the pulldown shade. It would be nice to be able to have certain apps show up like they intend to like PowerAmp (for current song playing) and messaging apps. Any idea if this is possible? I have yet to do the ADB commands to get System UI Timer working but I don't think that will help at all.
[FYT Android Head Units] gottahavit:
I'm actually working on an app(who's main purpose is different) that will provide system overlay notifications to be displayed. There are other apps that allow this as well, tho I've had issues keeping them running on the IDoing. The main purpose will be to mirror notification from your phone without needing a cloud service like the others that do this, but it will also allow you to show the notification you get on the HU.
[FYT Android Head Units] just4747:
That's cool. I actually just downloaded Mighty Text on my iDoing to at least get texts on there and thankfully it has a popup notification window option..otherwise I wouldn't get any notifications from it and would have to go to the app manually to see anything. Would be great to have ongoing notifications of things like music and certain messaging apps like I said in my last post but so far no solutions for that on this custom ROM...

Let us know more about your app when you have it!