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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] foxman01:
If using bluetooth headset and double taping on the headset to call last number the screen wakes up and remains that way the hole conversation.

Is there a way to get it in sleep mode when doing so.

I have the phone in pocket when double taping the headset.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] krheinwald:
Confirmed. And the screen stays active after the call.

Same for starting a call through voice dial with BT headset.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
This however, is for outgoing calls! The main intention of the program was to prevent missing incoming calls.

I could implement turning the device off when a call is made, but I thought there were other solutions for this? A simple registry change? Something like the reverse of this thread...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sandeman684:
Come on, google is your friend, or read a few posts back.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] krheinwald:
You're right, of course!

Your app is already seen as being the cure-it-all solution for everything call related ;-)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
let's not make it too fat please

(just add the action button and "hide" window and call it 1.0 :))
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ertert:
What about using the action key to disable the program instead of the stylus?

Because I think stylus pulling out or replacing it back is not so practical for using only one hand. We need to use both hands to disable it when recieving a call. But if we can do it by pressing the center/action key it would be more practical and fast. The other things about the prog. is perfect for our beautiful diamond.

We have to thank you so much bro...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
ertert if you read the thread, you'll see that this has already been asked and author knows about it
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ertert:
NLS, the author knows about it but he didn't like that idea so much I think and if more people ask for the same thing then he might take it more serious or it can be an option that the user can customize it on the pda. People who want to use stylus can select it or the ones who wish to use the action key select that key or anyone other might select the "Up/down/left/right or volume up/down etc." to deactivate it for that incoming call...

Isn't that a good idea?

If we can achieve this option then maybe there will be no need for that much release or update by then author!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
I am right now browsing the net for info on the touch panel. It's dual touch w00t

only how do i use it... .. . . .... .... .......... :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] StarMonkee:
Sounds good.

Technically it's not dual touch though, there are 4 separate touch panels at the bottom (left side, right side, touch wheel part, and center button). So you can have multi touch, but not on the same panel.

I'd love to see a simple config for this app. If you want to keep it light then store the settings in a file or the registry and if people want to change them they can either do it themselves or write a small config app which is separate.

As I said on modaco, I'm using 2.1 because I don't want the screen to go off after a successful call - most of the time after a call I'll do something else on the phone straight away.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
This, my friend, is a GREAT idea! How come I didn't think of it?!? Just use a couple of registry settings for enabling/disabling stylus unlocking.. One for turning off.. Great idea! :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
My friend I have to object.

PLEASE PLEASE prefer a cfg file (plain text) than using registry!

Registry sux!

Btw, if it is easier for you to implement unlock by touching the center button (not pushing it) it is good enough. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MJNewton:
You sure about that? Isn't the whole point of this tool to avoid the inadvertent activation of touch-sensitive inputs whilst in a pocket/pouch?

Mathew
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
Yes I am sure.

You see:

1) the center button is recessed anyway

2) the lower part (where the action buttons and the center button reside) is capacitive, it cannot be operated by something else touching it than your finger... you can try yourself, take of your stylus and press the "green" button... the phone application will never start :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
I am going to be able to detect touches (not button presses) to the complete lower part of the device. The four hardware buttons, the ring, and the center thingy. Touches. Tap tap tap.

Those touches have to be done by a finger. It will respond to finger presses through a layer of cloth (i.e. my t-shirt I'm wearing right now, and unfortunatly, my jeans as well), but definately not through the pouch.

Maybe I can figure out where I pressed, and disable the lock if I first pressed left, then right. Or something. Hmmm.... considering :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] roboton:
For me is very frustrating that new version doesn't include the central circular bottom button to unlock the screen. In my opinion is much more intuitive unbloking the phone using this button that blinks with ligtht when there is an incoming call, and can be pressed only with one hand, than the new behaviour with the stylus.

I hope the author will include this basic option soon to this promising software.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
I would directly if it only were not that d*rn difficult to catch the middle button press! That's frustrating! :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
hey don't get carried away!

you are pretty "conservative" up to now and this makes the application so great

if you respond to any touch in the whole lower surface then clicking the "green" or the "red" button (something that you need to do to answer or reject a call) will... unlock the screen so your program becomes useless (DUH!)

just try to capture touch (or press) on the middle button pretty please
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
Gehhe yeah, pretty conservative. That's why I'm not very happy about the touches going through my jeans to the lower panel. IF I want to use those touches, I have to be sure it was not accidental. I don't yet see a way of certainly determining it was not. Center button touches also go right through my pants...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Vasko:
Hi drvdijk,

Thanks for sharing this great utility.

With v0.4.1bluetooth activesync doesn't turnoff the device screen after the set period (from settings), i've returned to v0.3.1 and bt activesync works properly again.

Is this behavior meant to be or is there something missing?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Davey101:
Interesting... it seems pretty clear that a centre button touch alone won't do. It's a shame you can't capture the button press yet!

What about a couple of rotations of the scroll wheel?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NoBody20013:
am i right? :

you cant change the phone volume with the volume keys when you are in a call because the buttons are locked?

i cant change the volume....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
Nope, not locking any buttons. Will test this, but with 95% certainty this cannot be Answerkeys Disabler's doing.

Test result: volume changing works flawlessly over here.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Davey101:
Are you using a different dialer or volume control to the standard HTC ones? You have to use both or neither to avoid in-call issues.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aussieak:
Nope I am getting the same time frame on mine. and I had the phone for a week before I used it. AVG 1 days usage
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mgear356:
I had discovered one issue too

when there's a incoming call within another call, i cant seem to answer it with both hardware buttons and on screen button.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BerlinTop:
hey, drvdijk, we've had quite some exchange on the stylus issue :-) here is another scenario which calls for an alternative way for "manual" unlocking:

- the phone is locked

- a call comes in

- you answer the call with the hardware button

- the screen goes blank

- a "call waiting" appears (second incoming call)

- you pull the stylus to unlock the screen, and - surprise: the "notes" application starts (one of the "innovations" of the diamond)

- one should close the note, in order to come back to the calling screen

Thats a lot of things to do ...

Of course, the start of the notes function during an ongoing call by pulling the stylus can be disabled, but I actually like this feature (as long as no real good call recording solution is available...)

tough thing, I know :-)

Cheers
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
everything seems to point that the correct solution (even difficult) is to use the action button PRESS

for stylus: I love the notes popping up, please don't touch this behavior!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] krheinwald:
Re. "Notes" application starting.

That can be turned off somewhere, IIRC.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BerlinTop:
Sure, it can be turned off. But I am using it, and wouldn't want to sacrifice on that
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] krheinwald:
The poster above you wanted to turn it off.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] caldo:
+1000. I agree with this option :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] krheinwald:
This should help.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sabb0ur:
Yesterday, my battery was dead. I charged it to about 50%, didn't make any phone calls nor did I take it out of my pocket, 2 hours later the battery was dead again and the phone was very hot!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] angler:
I have experienced my Diamond automatically waked up and did not suspend after morning alarm by Spb Time. The device got hot in the back and I was using v0.31 but I was not perfectly sure it was caused by this software since I am testing Vito Audio Notes too. I have switched to v0.41 now and so far no issue yet. I suspect that there is some thing trigger this software to wake up and it believes there is a call but it cannot suspend the device since there is no call event met with its string(s). I do not notice any thing relevant among the version log changes.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pedmond:
Strange, something similar happened to me: this morning SpbTime did not ring, and then the phone was blocked with garbage on the screen. A soft reset solved the problem. I'm using v 0.31 as well. Perhaps I should upgrade to the latest version...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] buciuman:
This same thing happened to me 2 nights ago for the first time ever and i do not have answerkeys disabler installed! (nor have i ever installed it).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pedmond:
Now it's really weird!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] angler:
I have installed v0.41 and wait for couple of hours to see whether the software can live with Spb Time. I am not sure it relates to this software for not suspending my device, but there leaves some weirdness since Spb Time has been my alarm for years without any issue at all. The device just suspiciously waked up and could not suspend at default time and exhausted the battery.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] whc:
Just installed this fine app, must say this is a really good idea, to disable the screen, it should be default in the Diamond.

Though, I cannot get it to work on my TD, installed and activated it, still answer a call by pressing the screen, tried to uninstall (got an error saying that the app could not me disabled), I have rebooted, ran different cleaning tools, reinstalled, still not working, of course I have performed several system resets, and still not working.

What is wrong, please help?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
I have TP, I have SPB Time and 0.4.1.

SPB Time works fine (wakes me up in the morning) and 0.4.1 works fine.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sabb0ur:
Regarding the power drain:

1. I lock my phone before I put it in the pouch

2. Sometime later, I take it out of the pouch, it is still locked but the screen is on, it is very hot in the back and the power has been drained!

Very strange, it didn't happen to me before :)

Any ideas?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nosro:
I have a Sprint Diamond. For some reason, this doesn't work on my phone. The touch panel fully works when the phone is ringing from a locked state. Am I doing something wrong?

I downloaded 0.4.1. I made sure that it was running by trying to re-execute the .exe. (The program asked if I wanted to terminate the program, to which I clicked "no".)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Bozoleclown:
A great tool,probably the best for the screen pouch problem, but a few problems for me on 0.41 : screen stays on after a missed call, and the tweaks that prevent the screen from getting off during a call didn't work anymore :confused:

Try to get back to 0.21
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
Thanks for that, it will!

Do you have this same behaviour without Answerkeys Disabler installed?

I can't really imagine it is this program, since it just waits for incoming calls before it actually starts doing something (i.e. touchscreen locking).

What if you just turn off your device without locking?

Well actually, that's very good for me to hear :cool: Of course your problems aren't, but that it's unrelated to Answerkeys Disabler is.

I'm using SPB Time as well, without any problems in combination with answerkeys disabler. It only gets hot with TomTom or when I use it as modem for my laptop in the train.

I agree, SPB time has been working fine for ages. However, Answerkeys Disabler does not call timers that prevent the device from going to sleep either. If it catches a power state change (e.g. a message 'the device is on now!' or a message 'the device is almost going to sleep'), Answerkeys Disabler simply changes an internal variable, once. It does not call other functions or changes power states that might intervene with the regular schedule.

What version are you running? To uninstall, you could manually remove the shortcut to AnswerkeysDisabler from \Windows\startup, do a soft reset, and try uninstalling again.

Are you by any chance using an CDMA touch diamond?

Is that a CDMA phone? I'm in a conversation with a CMDA touch diamond user who does not have some .dll files in the \Windows directory which answerkeys disabler needs (core.dll and touch.dll).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] aussieak:
I found from .31-.41 that I cant get the screen to lock if the phones display is on. I need to put the phone into standby 1st before it works. I have rolled back to .21 which work no matter what state the phone is in
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
Yeah I changed that back in v3.1. Why lock if the device is sensitive for touches before the call in the first place?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] nosro:
Yes, it is a CDMA Diamond. Looking through my Windows directory, I did find the following strangely named file: coredll.dll.0409

Otherwise, I am also missing core.dll and touch.dll
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Genius2000:
Feature request

Hi, I installed your nice app, and works very fine for me, I'm asking you if it's possible to override the standard screen with (small) caller ID picture, answer key and reject call, with a simple bigger caller ID picture.

Many thanks!

Ciao, Andrea
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
not a bad idea!

(so you hide the useless buttons, you allow for center button polling and show better clid picture all in one :))
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sabb0ur:
Well the problem hadn't happened to me since yesterday. I changed the windows locking behavior to lock all buttons except the power button.

I don't like it that way because to unlock the phone I have to press on the power button which is recessed and I fear that it might eventually wear out!

I think that something (hardware or software) would wake up the phone and it would not sleep again which causes the battery to drain.

I will revert the locking mechanism to "do not lock keys" and see what happens.

Question: Aren't the hardware keys touch sensitive as well? So the phone could not have waken up from sleep (being in its pouch and in my pocket) from accidentally pressing the hardware buttons while I am walking?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
That waking up by hardware-keys could only have happened with versions 0.3.x. Since 0.4 Answerkeys Disabler 'presses' the power button, just as you normally would to turn it off. That yields a true sleep, from which the device will not wake up by presses to the home, back, end, talk, or d-buttons.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sabb0ur:
What Key lock settings would you recommend to work with your program?

Personally, I prefer to use "Do not lock keys" so that I could press any of the hardware keys to bring up the unlock screen.

Is there an incomaptability with this solution?

A side question: What is the difference between the 3 lock modes because I couldn't find information about them? :P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] sabb0ur:
I did a quick test today -

Lock settings: Do not lock buttons

Phone: locked

pressing the d-pad arrows through the pouch indeed turned on the screen (although it remained locked). This probably happens in my pocket as I am walking.

Note that the screen would take 40 seconds to turn off (as specified by the power settings) so essentially, it remained on most of the time draining the battery!

Now I'm starting to hate the phone :P why would they make the d-pad buttons not touch sensitive while they would make the Home/Back/Answer/Reject buttons touch sensitive! It doesn't make any sense!

So, is the only solution to my problem to set the lock settings: Lock buttons if device is locked or Lock all buttons except Power button, and unlock my phone by pressing the fragile Power button?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] m3cti:
Well, strange behaviour:

if i get a call to my mobile phone number (german O2) AKD0.4.1 works perfect, but if someone calls me at my homezone number the answerkeydisabler doesn't work, the screen will not be locked.

I don't know what exactly the problem is because normally the phone should not known if the call is directed to mobile or fixed-line number. But this issue is reproducable, others in same situation have the same problem :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] komeil424:
Your links doesnt work

please change links or host
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] xeonpj:
hello friends. forgiveness for my English.

I sometimes that happens, it is hung vibrating.

I pass on the latest versions.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] :
Turn on screen when taking the phone away from ear

I know the iPhone does this, and we have the same sensors on the diamond..

When a call comes in, I answer using the HW keys.

Now, it's great the the screen goes blank. However, if I move the phone away from my ear, it should turn on since I might want to press a button on the keypad or open an app. If I take it back to my ear, it should turn off again.

I call me voice mail many times a day. It would be a fantastic feature if the display would turn back on when I take the phone away from my ear to press a button to delete a message etc.

Could this be a future feature for this app?

/Soren
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
I stick to the original setting, lock all buttons except power button. However, I haven't considered this setting for the development of answerkeys disabler. They don't have much to do with each other imho.

Is that some sort of VOIP? Here in the Netherlands we can forward landlines to mobile phones (*21*phone#), is this the same situation as you are talking about? It does sound like one of those things I can fix in the TAPI handling (where I get different messages on the state of the phone line).

Ouch yeah, didn't realize that I removed all the rapidshare links. Will upload the versions I still have (0.2 and above) to Google tomorrow once I get off this laptop (not home atm).

You are probably also running SensorLock I guess. Answerkeys Disabler does nothing with vibration.

It is a cool feature, but not for this program. This program will be as simple as possible, simply resolving the problem of missed calls due to unlocking.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Genius2000:
Hi Drvdijk, no reply for me :) ?

Ciao, Andrea
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] drvdijk:
Sorry, missed your response.

I'm not working with overlay windows (yet). Still investigating this, but the trouble is keeping the window on top. The phone application which shows you the interface for hanging up and answering places itself on top when a call is inbound. I had some timing issues to get my window on top of that phone window. Some times my small test window ended on top, but most times the phone window was on top.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] m3cti:
No, it's not VoIP. All mobile providers in Germany except Eplus have an option for customers to get a fixed-line number from local city-net beside their standard mobile phone number which is technically a simple call forwarding. The answerkeydisabler works now only if the incoming call is directed to the mobile number. But the phone itself (and i) don't really know which number the caller had dialed.

Maybe you have found an interesting way to detect the kind of number (home or mobile) was dialed ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Genius2000:
No problem, many thanks for your reply now :)

I appreciate that you aren't YET working on it and still investigate :) I hope it's possible due to S2U2 does.

Ciao, Andrea
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] seatone:
@drvdijk

Thank you for this fine soft, it works as it should, it's great :)

I dunno if someone mentioned earlier, but it could be an additional great feature, if after a call, that was initiated through the bt headset, the screen would became locked (if the screen was switched off initially).

I like to use my bt headset when I receive or initiate calls (with cyberon voice speed dial), with the phone in my pocket.

in case of the incoming call there is no problem, but when I initiate a call with cvsd, the screen remains unlocked, during the call and of course after the call too (although when the call was initiated, the phone was in standby mode/switched off).

Thanx,

/s1
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Jorlin:
Awesome

This is a great tool :D

Thanks a lot :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] angusmears:
I have been running version 0.3 then 0.31 and all was working fine. I installed version 0.41 yesterday and have twice had my phone lock completely. It wouldn't turn on to let me unlock the phone (I use the inbuilt phone lock too - too many times with Nokia's when I phoned people at random from my trouser pocket). There were no options when a call was received to be able to answer. The only way forward was the reset button.

Has anybody else had this problem with version 0.41? I am still very pleased with the software so have downgraded to 0.31 for the time being.

If it helps with identifying the problem I think I had at least one missed call prior to the phone locking on each occasion.

Many thanks to drvdijk or finally being able to trust that I won't accidentally reject calls as I retrieve the TD from its wallet.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] krheinwald:
I saw this twice.