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[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] 1Condottiere:
Hi, it seems nobody here has a solution to my tint question in Lightroom. is there a forum you could indicate where I could pose the question to get a response or a possible fix? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
I kinda doubt it, GCam users for the S21U is already super niche. Now, narrow that further to RAW GCam users for the S21U that is also Lightroom users and you will end up probably being able to count them with your fingers.

If it helps, I don't use Lightroom but do use Photoshop and do not have issues with the RAW DNG files generated by GCam. Camera RAW on the computer and Photoshop Express app on the phone has no issues with the DNG files and tints (sometimes they lack saturation so I increase the vibrancy).
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] 1Condottiere:
I have narrowed down the issue to dng files taken with the 3X and 10X lenses. These show up on Lightroom as taken by "Make: Google" "Model 4XL"

and when in the Develop tab some of the default values are not at zero but at other numbers as seen below, and the file is clearly marked starting with PXL_

Photos taken with 0.6X and 1X show the different numbers in the Develop mode, but the tint, although not zero, is in a range that can be adjusted. Very strange.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] ELp2:
Man tell me, combination off Gcam and mi 9, how they are comperable with samsung 21u, without Gcam, i now have mi9 gcam and photos are damn good, but i want to upgrade, is the upgrade to 21u worth it ?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] meroupow:
On the main camera the GCam photos look similar on mi9 and s21u. There's more difference between stock and gcam on each phone than between the two phones using GCam. Using stock camera the s21u pics look a bit less detailed or noisier sometimes when zooming in/pixel peeping.

On the zoom and ultra wide lenses there is simply no contest, s21u is far better than mi9.

On the selfie cam I quite like the look of gcam on mi9 although the s21u stock pics are good with a wider field of view. Missing the GCam option for s21u to really compare.

Astro photos seems to work better with GCam on mi9.

There is still a better compatibility with gcam on mi9 but overall you will not lose in quality. At its best focal the mi9 is just on par with s21u.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] ELp2:
Thanks for reply!

I know that zoom and ultra wide lens can be compered, but i use for the most of time main sensor for yt taking photos of food, workout photos from outside and in the gym, i run fitnes acount. So main camera is primar for me, and hearing that mi 9 with g cam is on par with s21u stock ( bcs i am not sure if i will able to buy snapdragon, bcs in my country there is exy most of the time ), makes me sad, bcs i will give 1000 dolars for, what, zoom and wide..

I am now in dilema, is there better option for me, meybe p40 pro + who can be found for 600 dolars or meybe iphon 12 pro max with again, 1000dolars.. Big money for, witch kind of upgrade... i dont know that to do know...
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] meroupow:
It is hard to upgrade from mi9 or even mi8 as they were so good and cheap. Real flagship level for 350$. Now for just a little better you need to pay 1000$. I had the same issue...

But you only use the main camera because others are not so good. With the s21u you really start to use all lenses and even macro. It's really refreshing.

Have a look on Reddit and see how it triggers people creativity.

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] ELp2:
http://i will look it up.. So did you think meybe about iph 12 pro m + ? p50 is far awey
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] meroupow:
We are a bit off topic there... You can PM me if you want.

But Huawei was not an option. Too many apps would not work and I would not get Outlook and Teams access with my company.

I considered the IPhone 12 pro max but in France the price is equivalent to 1680$ (thanks to Apple great pricing in the euro zone)...

I could import the s21u snapdragon variant for much much less. Voilà.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
Snap S21 U here.

Using the Arnova Beta and the xml config you shared.

I can't see the individual lenses and still have the zoom bar. Aux is on and so is stream.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Did you specifically download and install the Samsung package with Ruler in its name?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
Yes sir.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
It worked about a month and a half ago. I saw a new one from him came out so I installed that. Realized it wasn't the same, so went back downgraded back to the original.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
And if it's not sir, then apologize to replace with maam.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
lol you're right the first time. However, I'm not sure about your issue since Arnova's ruler package gives me the correct lenses without even touching the configs. He'll probably release another version in a couple of weeks.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
I was just about to ask you when will the current beta will turn into GA.

Dumb question...will the config xml file change with a new version? Did you make changes since you posted yours above (the one I'm actually using currently).
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Yeah new versions will need new XML files. My understanding is that Arnova needed to fix a few things on his latest beta to release another public one. Probably delayed with all of the Euro cup excitement going on haha. Wichaya's version has been working well for me, and his latest private has XML support so hopefully he'll release that one and I can share as well. The developer of the Greatness 8.2 GCam is also working on supporting our S21 Ultras as well and should be ready in his next public release.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Thanks...looking forward for your recommendation having tested all these 3 (if not more) variants.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
New Greatness Cam is out and fully working with the S21Ultra Snapdragon.

Greatness: GCam8.2.204_Greatness.210627.2142Release

Download GCam8.2.204_Greatness.210627.2142Release By Greatness.

www.celsoazevedo.com

(com.samsung.android.biometrics.service)
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Here's a direct link to the Samsung Greatness version. You can install this alongside of Arnova's. It has ISO controls which is useful. Since it's 8.2, it has Sabre working which helps improve digital zoom image quality. I don't really use digital zoom at all but could be useful for some. I've attached my config for it.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] ELp2:
can somene test all this ?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Yea...you 😇
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
I compared Greatness to Arnova8g2 and the later wins hands down for me.

Could be the config file, but I used yours in both cases, so I doubt that your preferences in terms of WB and noise have changed.

I found greatness pretty off in WB and too dark...yes both can be corrected, but I haven't seen a direct benefit besides the 2x digital zoom applicable to all rear lenses.

Will wait for next suggestion, until then it's mostly Samsung for daylight and Arnova for zoom and night shots.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Came across an interesting comparation between the current top phones (ok, he uses iPhone 12pro instead of Max) which doesn't yield flattering results for Samsung.

Mobile Flagship Phone Cameras 2021 H1 Review: Megapixels & Telephotos

www.anandtech.com
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
lol you're not wrong. Greatness is a solid build but it uses a non-standard lib that does something a little weird to the image. I haven't been able to tweak it to my liking. AWB specifically has to be on and set in the settings rather than like in the other ones where it correctly chooses WB even with AWB off.

As for the Anandtech review, I think it actually does yield solid results from stock Samsung (though less so for Exynos). It's up near the top for low light. I'd actually say it's up to the top in HDR too. The reviewer notes that it isn't contrasty like the iPhone and Pixel images...but that's kinda what HDR is. HDR boosts shadows and lowers highlights so the image looks more flat. In that regard, I think it does a better job. Also the Samsung aims for a brighter image, but it definitely doesn't fail at highlights like the reviewer suggests (brighter but not blown out).
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] AuTune:
I keep getting a "device out of storage" error every time I try to tap the dark space to get it to open, how do I fix this?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Try the new Wichaya build that I updated the OP with. Remember to set the full storage permissions.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Fauxnetiks:
Can you reupload the xml? Can't download it for some reason.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Perhaps try with a different browser? I just tried downloading it and it seems to work fine for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Fauxnetiks:
I tried again in the same browser and it seems to work now, maybe it was a weird xda thing. It said the file couldn't be found.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
Both Wichaya and Arnova apps won't give me the aux lenses. Greatness app does.

I am beyond frustrated with this. I am not a gcam noob, used to use Urnyx05s 7.2 on my S8.

I have had S6, S8, S10+, S21U and never had something like this happen.

Yes, install, before lajnching go and give it all access to all media before launching, and then load the config in the configs8 folder I made in the GCAM directory.

For greatness, just turn off sunset mode and you get kicked back to the mail lib after a restart. I like recording on all 4 lenses in 4k 60fps.

And the high frame HDR+ Enchanced doesn't freeze up the app after 15 to 20 frames.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Are you downloading the correct Samsung version of Arnova's and Wichaya's? It needs to be the one with Ruler or Scan3d in the name. Samsung only gives access to aux for specific package names.

Also 4k60 is not possible with the telephoto unless you use stock. Turns out the reason stock upscales the 10mp telephoto to 12mp is specifically for 4k video because 10mp doesn't have enough horizontal resolution.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Alright, big update to the OP. Arnova's newest build and BSG public build was recently released in addition to Wichaya's build from last week. All three are awesome. Read the OP carefully as the setup for each is a little different from each other.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] meroupow:
Thanks so much for sharing all the updates and let us benefit from the latest improvements. Now I keep switching between 4 camera apps 🤪😜
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Powerful444:
I notice on the BCG build the front cam viewfinder works but when you take a photo nothing is saved. Any way to get it to save? US S21ultra snap.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] qandres12:
Is there a specific reason why the aux names for the arnova config are 2.9x and 9.9x? Kinda bugs me so I'm changing it to 3 amd 10 haven't experienced any issued by changing the name. Figured I wouldn't since it's just a button name
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] jericho246:
It was the same on my old Vivo phone, in stock cam it said 5x zoom and then in GCam ports it was 4.7x if I recall correctly. Not sure what the reason for that is, but you can set the button name to whatever you want, so it doesn't matter.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Give my new XML a try for the BSG public build. Note though that the front camera can't do HDR because of Samsung and thus results look pretty bad. Stock is definitely better.

It's because that's the true value lol. Arnova's and Wichaya's use camera data to give the name. Samsung calls it 3x and 10x because that's easier but the true magnification is 2.9x and 9.9x. But yeah there's no harm in renaming it. Personally because I have so many builds installed, having the different names help me remember which build I'm using 😂
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] qandres12:
Never knew those were the actual values. Thanks for the info and thanks for providing the configs. I've been patiently waiting for this since the one from March! Thanks so much, and Im sure the Telegram community appreciates it too.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Thanks @beserker15 , much appreciated..loaded and testing Arnova.

BTW..I'm having a blonde moment (no offense to anyone with the same hair color as mine) : how do u change the label of the bloody button? I tried to redefine it but it just goes back.

For fun, an untouched 30x zoom..spectacular.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Don't know why the pics show so dark, I downsized using Snapseed but it was showing fine on the phone.

This is the stock camera for comparison
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Advanced settings > Auxillary config > button name. While it's basic math, I do like that Arnova's digital zoom multiplies with the optical one.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Powerful444:
is that bcg xml the same as page 1 as that is the one im using and the front cam doesnt save.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
No, it's different. I don't think I'll update the OP with it though since it seems to do something a little weird with exposure on the main camera when enabling Samsung mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Powerful444:
Do you mind explaining what you did do to get the front cam to work? I have it all just the way I want it other than that. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Thanks, works in a quirky way : before I was trying to put an integer value, it only takes when it's a decimal point number...ex 3 fails to take, but 2.99 is fine and rounded up to 3. Bizarre.

BTW..is it me or in this beta version HDR+ FC the app? HDR Enhanced or off is the only way to go.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] x.Orville.x:
What gcam you guys recommend?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Bleh, looks like in developer settings > camera.pck_raw_sensor has to be turned off for HDR regular to work. Guess I never use it so I didn't notice that detail haha. I'll update my XML sometime but turning that option off will fix HDR+.

If you're new to all of this, probably Wichaya's build. It's stable and not packed with too many options.

Global > Smartphone > Samsung. Just give my XML a try first to see if it's even worth it. The front camera without Google's HDR magic is terrible. Turning on Samsung mode makes the main camera behave differently. I personally don't think it's worth trying at this point.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Thanks for taking a look...but unfortunately it didn't work in my case..still FC.

BTW : the image never gets saved, so the crash occurs while taking the shot.

The reason I tried HDR+is because Enhanced takes too long to process the image and sometimes the inevitable movement causes blur.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Hmm try this?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Ipse_Tase:
Awesome, works fine. Cheers!

Did the dev setting get overwritten by the XML file settings?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] qandres12:
under advance>Aux Config and then look for the ones that say button name at the end
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] omaralwardian:
New Arnova

Having problem with photo from 3rd and 4th lens saving. They show in the post window in the bottom right quadrant of the phone for about half a second after shot, then disappear.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
XML config can change dev settings. Since you like using HDR+, try the new Wichaya build. It allows custom motion photo resolution, so it now offers the highest resolution for the short videos generated in motion photos.

Are you using my XML config? The 3rd and 4th lens issue is related to GID. I have it set correctly in my XML so it shouldn't do that.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] :
can someone please share the older `Arnova-S21U.xml` file for GCAM_6.210329.0034 build
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] NexusS4gFreak:
Well this sucks. Had arnova Gcam working on my phone just fine for a week or two, now when I try to take a picture with flash it force closes the app and the picture doesn't get taken. Already tried the S21 hdrfix XML, only works when flash isn't on.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Is there a reason why you would still use the older build? The new build has improved in everything so just use that.

lol flash is definitely a feature I do not use so I did not notice. If you go into the camera settings > developer options > uncheck camera.shasta.force, flash will work without crashing. However I like shasta (more dynamic range) so I will leave it on. I will try to see if Arnova can fix this in future builds as it isn't an issue with the Wichaya or BSG build with Shasta on.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] :
The raw on the new build are coming very very hazy the normal image comes very sharp its only raw, so want to move back to older build
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
I'm assuming you mean the RAW preview in Gallery. That's the nature of the lib file. If you disable the custom lib, the preview will be sharp. However this doesn't translate to the RAW being hazy. If you load the RAWs into lightroom or photoshop, it'll still be sharp regardless.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] :
No the actual raw image is hazy even in lightroom and snapseed, so I moved to older build. Just tried disabling the custom lib and hazzyness is gone 👍🏼
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Bacardi222:
Thanks a lot for providing these resources and configs.

I've been playing around with the different versions and find the latest Wichaya build and related config to produce the best results. Most shots look better and more natural than the Samsung camera app. Specifically, color accuracy and reproduction is considerably better, there is less sharpening, and better motion handling. However, I find the over sharpening that Samsung uses actually seems to produce better results for zoomed shots. I have to wonder if the exaggerated sharpening is intentional, given that the zoom is a major selling point of the phone.

Is there a way to change the native resolution of the photos to higher than the standard "full" resolution of 4000x3000? Anything in developer settings?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] onurd:
Since the front cam isn't working, is there an option to disable/make disappear the "turn the camera around button"?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] bigc004:
Not a super experienced GCAM user but I deleted the ones I was previously using on my S21 Ultra (snapdragon) and downloaded the 3 in this post and for some reason the photos I take are looking extremely dark and the colors are over saturated.. Definitely don't look as good as the stock camera or the previous Gcam's I was using. I downloaded the Gcam 8.1 101 v1.3_scan3d.apk then putting the wichaya_8.1_S21U.xml into the Configs8 folder then opening it and applying it to the gcam. I've tried using HDR +enhanced and thats when I get the dark pictures with the over saturation and when I turn the HDR off, it just seems to white wash every photo.. Does it sound like I set something up wrong?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Sadly no, Samsung doesn't expose the 108mp mode to API 2. Samsung's processing for the higher digital zooms work well with buildings or things with less textures and more defined edges, but looks terrible with things like trees.

Nope, since not every Samsung model is affected, it would literally require a developer to only build for our Samsung model...which is very unlikely.

You should upload some pictures. GCam usually reduces highlights, but it should never be extremely dark. Color saturation can be adjusted in RAM Patcher. Also have you tried loading the custom lib files I attached in the OP? The new one I added today is less saturated.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] bigc004:
@beserker15 So 3 of the 5 photos are taken with one of the GCAM Variants with the new XMLs applied... As you can see it's doing some weird stuff to the photos but being that I'm in no way a expert in photography its hard for me to describe what it is. I just know that I downloaded one about a month ago and it took awesome photos of my son then when I removed it and downloaded the 3 new ones it doesn't seem to look better than stock. I could be doing something wrong but I've tried with the lib files and without on all 3. Do these look off to you? if you think they do, I'll post some screenshots of how I have these set up
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Are you using the main 1x or ultra wide in these pictures? You are correct though, indoor with mixed lighting (where there are bright windows), stock does boost the brightness more but often at the cost of detail. Especially for darker skin people, it makes them look washed out. I will say that for most things, stock camera with the main camera is pretty good. Most of my shots are with the telephotos.

When lighting is even though, GCam looks consistently better. Also even when it isn't, the detailed lost from the brightness is annoying. Btw, these selfies are with the main rear camera (since of course GCam doesn't work with the front one).
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] bigc004:
When you're taking photos are you normally using enhanced or do you not use HDR at all? Trying to figure out how the best way to start getting good photos of my son again.. the stock camera seems to have trouble in that are. On whatever build I was on in the beginning of July seed to produce great photos like the one attached, almost every single time with the HDR ehanched on. Is something off with the way I have the files, I have both builds in the same folder
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] bigc004:
New BSG build I just loaded.. darker one is with the new lib file and the lighter one is the standard google one
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
It's a little harder for me to optimize for kids since I don't have any lol. Let's simplify things a little. Since you are taking pictures of your son, let's go with BSG since it has the fastest autofocus speeds of the three (in some of your examples, the focus didn't go to your son). Load the BSG xml for that, and also the MWP lib file from today.

I always use HDR Enhanced since it gives the best picture quality. It adds a slight shutter delay, but I'm not usually taking pictures of sports so it's fine for me. You can increase/decrease the amount of HDR frames to increase capture speed as well as adjust exposure compensation in the modules section of BSG. The main camera is module 0.

Arnova is probably best for outdoor/still pictures where you want a little bit of added saturation. Wichaya is a solid all-arounder but definitely for moving kids you want BSG.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
Yeah if you find that the Google Lib matches your skin tones more, then you can stick with it. It seems first shot missed focus so maybe that's why it is a little darker.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] bigc004:
Super helpful.. I appreciate you taking your time and explaining this stuff to me. By no means was I complaining, just want to understand how it works and make sure I wasn't messing anything up. For me, it seems like no lib file suits my style a bit more so I will try some shots later today and see how they work.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] bigc004:
When you say most your shots are with the telephotos, what do you mean?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] beserker15:
As in I usually use the 3x more to take pictures of people. As long as there is room to move back, the 3x is way better for people because the main has a good amount of edge distortion. I kinda wished they made the main camera less wide.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] nimbleenigmas333:
Is it possible to install and run the difficult builds at the same time on the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] qandres12:
yes youll have to use an app cloner though