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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
If you press Fn+Space, you'll be able to set ABC for the keyboard. Would it be enough for you ?

And, by the way, I'd need a successful install report, as detailed on the download page.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] petard:
Fn+Space isn't disabling T9, it does the same thing as pressing space alone.

* Successful reports:

* Model: AT&T Tilt

* Language: English

* Previous keyboards installed: None

* Previous SIP changer installed: None

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): 6.1 AT&T 3.57.502.2

Is it possible to make it go to ABC by itself if it knows your phone is in landscape mode? It automatically switches to the keyboard you had set in that orientation (i have phone pad in portrait and full keyboard in landscape and it knows to switch between those)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
The question is: which cab have you downloaded ? You should have choosen the Fullkbd one, the same that's on my Kaiser right now.

When I open the hardware keyboard and I start to type in Notes, the prediction box appears because t9 is now enabled by default. But if I press Fn+Space a T9 menu appears, and I can choose between T9 or ABC. If I choose ABC, the prediction box won't appear again, and the phone will remember this setting.

Could you try once more ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] randomelements:
Model: Nike 200 16 Keys

Language: EN

Previous keyboards installed: beta 1 (uninstalled prior to installing new build)

Previous SIP changer installed: none

ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): 6.0 T-Mobile stock ROM

Description of the issue: letter reappearing after backspace

Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: no

Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?: when using abc mode (not xT9) a character will reappear after being deleted by backspace if deleted before the character selection has been completed

Just wanted to let you know that this still exists in 1.1 - don't know if you'd had the chance to look at it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
How could I ? You helped me to test it... :)

Anyway thanks, it shows that the new Tegic libraries haven't changed so much the whole affair. We'll have to tweak some values in the registry, and I guess you are eager to try... :D

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] randomelements:
I am yours to command ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] darth maximus:
Hi BJK, any release notes for 9/28 version?

Tried the previous with my WM device:

HTC Kaiser

English

No Kb

No SIP Changer

Garmin 4.2 Manila ROM WM6.1

working great for me.

Do you recommend existing users of beta 1 to install 1.1 over 1? downloading the new one anyway.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] petard:
I downloaded the full keyboard beta 1.1. I have to open the keyboard up and toggle it to ABC for the T9 box to not come up. Fn+Space is like just pressing space. Having the T9 box makes it really lagy when typing.

It seems that it also knows to switch to ABC automatically in certain circumstances, like when you have to choose a file in the Notes program to load. Maybe there is some way to make it always set to ABC if its in landscape?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbarvian:
EDIT:

disregard
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] WildSioux:
Hi, i just found this keyboard, it is awesome. Thanks for this. Here is my report...

Model: Srint Mogul PPC-6800

Language: English

Previous keyboards installed: Resco Keyboard Pro (installed), and PocketCM keyboard (uninstalled).

Previous SIP changer installed: sipchange (uninstalled before)

ROM version: Stock Sprint HTC WM 6.1

Issues:

In landscape with hardware KB, the software KB pops up now. It even knows to switch it to full QWERTY though.

Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: No, the SIP did not popup in landscape.

Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?: Just slide hardware KB out. It will popup.

Also, T9 popup with hardware key input. Cool feature, kind of sluggish though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, it's just a basic cab, with all the files of the latest Opal rom and the settings for

phones without keyboards

.

But since it doesn't have the fixes on which I've been working since the release of the pre-release rom, installing it would just be contra-productive.

If you'd like to contribute, it would be better to start with a report, first, and then with something more useful than that.

Thanks,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Known issue, and not related to the keyboard. Wait for the soft keyboard to appear, don't close it but start typing with the hardware keyboard. The soft keyboard will disappear and next time it will remember your choice.

On my phone and on that of several other users who have not installed any other keyboard, is not sluggish at all. The difference is that you still have another keyboard installed, we can't be sure it's the one to blame, but you might try.

If you wish to remove the T9, you can press Fn+Space and choose ABC. Next time, the HW keyboard will remember your choice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
The new Beta1.1 has just the new files from Tegic which have been extracted from the latest official rom. It would be useful to test it to see if there are regression bugs (you know when someone fix one thing and then a new problem appear and an old one comes out once again ? :))

Anyway, good question, I'll update the first page with the info as soon as possible.

Thanks,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, I don't understand. You say that you have to toggle it to ABC for the T9 box to not come up. But how you can do that, if then you add that Fn+Space is not working ?

I see that you don't have other keyboards installed, so it should not be as slow as you say. On Kaisers with official or cooked roms, you are the first to report a speed issue.

T9 is available only in some contexts. If you have an open notes file or Excel or Word, for example. And in those cases, you have to choose the ABC/T9 button on the software keyboard to have it remember your choice for the soft keyboard, and using Fn+Space - which you say that doesn't work - for the hardware keyboard. So, what you need is there, but we have to understand why the T9/ABC menu doesn't appear on your phone.

Is there any other AT/T Kaiser user who could contribute and give us an install report, to compare ?

Thanks !

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shark147:
Hi,

i tried the beta1.0 on my WM device:

HTC Touch Dual 20Keys ITA

ROM LILLY_1.2.4 OS6.1 WWE

Work fine for me

I have a question? i tried to create oem package with tool's Ervirus but return a Error...why?

Thanks so much...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, I've read that there should be something related to the CustomClassNames setting in the cab, which is a MULTI_SZ. These two keywords should give you enough results with google.

And anyway, I'd need to get more details about your device, even for a successful install.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jeiyuu:
Absolutely BJK,

I will help out in every way I can.. Updating to the latest 1.1 build, and will repoprt back after a few tests.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mbarvian:
i said it works on my kaiser, so it works on phones with keyboards as well.

however, i'll remove it by your consent
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, it seems that the difference between the NoKbd and the FullKbd is not clear enough.

Let's try to tell it in a simple way: the EzInput suite has two kind of keyboard mapping files, one for software mapping and the other for hardware mapping. The first kind is the one which allow the phone to know on which soft key you've tapped your stylus, and the other is the one which allow the phone to know which hardware key you've pressed.

There are subtle differences, between the registry configurations of all four layouts, and they are difficult to be noticed because HTC always includes a 'nearly' full set of files on each phone. But they exist, and allow only certain customizations on certain form factors.

Let's take, for example, the settings found on the Opal, which is keyboardless:

1] applied on Compact Keyboard phones they don't allow hardware mapping - you get wrong keys when you press an hardware key.

2] applied on Keypad phones they don't allow hardware mapping - you get wrong keys when you press an hardware key.

3] applied on Full Keyboard phones they disable the Fn+Combo, because the Tegic libraries don't use the DeadKeys file previously used by the standard IME. The other keys work, though, but their layout cannot be customized.

That's why the package extracted from the Opal is not enough, and here you'll find four packages. I've collected and tested the settings coming from the various Nike Roms, and those coming from the Raphael. The only package that is "almost" basically unchanged is the one coming from the Opal, which you have repackaged as well.

So, your assumption is not so correct, as gullum and wmn79 will be able to confirm. And even about the FullKbd package, I've had to prepare a custom app, to check all the hardware key codes of the Kaiser and make the T9 menu come out as on the Raphael.

I would really be glad if you could try it on your phone, and let us know.

Thanks,

BJK

P.S. If you'll do it - don't forget the report ! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atomixpaintball:
I installed Beta1 Full Keyboard on my Kaiser and its works fine.

However when I am using the hardware keypad, the T9 auto correct tries to change letters/words as I am physically typing, which it did not do on Gullum's Diamond Qwerty Keypad.

Is there a way I can turn auto correct off when I am using the actual hardware keys?

Thanks

Daniel
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Could you try to press the Fn+Space combo on the HW keyboard and see if the ABC/T9 menu appears ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rions3:
Thanks, I figured that out too....So I just went to find a rom without keyboard package, and viola! It works like a charm :) you rock, BJK!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
* Successful reports: Everything works perfect. Polish eT9 works really flawlessy! Keyboard in landscape mode automaticaly changes to QWERTY, and every letter (even with polish dictionary) is visible. Getting back to back, and it gets back to the previous setted up keyboard for portrait mode. It's perfect. Phone Keybad works great. Last time it was a bit disorted with last polish eT9 which i have used but now all is good. Thanks Dupin for this relase!

* Model: HTC Kaiser (TytnII)

* Language: ROM: English, Keyboard Standard + Polish,

* Previous keyboards installed: Stock's Hyper Dragons from 30/09/2008

* Previous SIP changer installed: No,

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Cooked 6.1 (Hyper Dragon's III OPAL 30/09/2008)

* Issues: Maybe a bit laggy when adding new word. Nothing more noticed.

* Model: same as above

* Language:same as above

* Previous keyboards installed:same as above

* Previous SIP changer installed:same as above

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked):same as above

* Description of the issue:

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: Hard to say. Polish and others look just the same in the speed.

* Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?: tap (+) for adding a word. Thats all.

Thanks Dupin! This relase is fantastic!

One big issue founded!

When I want to type with hardware keyboard - this sucks :D

I mean there is something like this: when I press some buttons like "o", "a", they going backlighted for a while, and when I tap other letter its dissappearing and showing after that letter, for example: i want to type "apropos", it will show "parpos". How to get rid of this?

And FN+something is totally disorted.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I cannot repro your issues here. But I'm using an Offficial HTC Rom... :D

I've created a new notes file, I've cleaned all custom words from eT9MyWords (there's a link on the Fn+Space ABC/T9 menu), and I've started typing "apropos" on the hw keyboard. With T9 enabled, Word completion in T9 and Auto substitution on (the default settings) I get:

1] a - the prediction box shows just 'a'

2] p - ap

3] r - aprobuje, aprobate, aprobaty (sorry for the special accents)

4] o - same as above

5] p - just 'aprop'

6] o - apropo

7] s - apropos

and Fn+something gives me exactly what's printed in blue above the keys.

Could you:

- clear the eT9 database an retry

- send me a photo of your keyboard

- give me more details of what should appear when using Fn+something and what appears instead ?

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
Alright, here is what i get when I try to type word "apropos"

Ehm, too big.

http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99180156ds8.png

Last two images shows the FN+C = : and its ok,

But FN+X gives c (should &)

And FN+O or P gives spaces (should "( or )" )

FN+G = D,

FN+T = nothing,

and other disortion, let's say: half is good, and other half not.

Here is the layout taken from wiki:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
Dupin,

I think that i have found a solution.

Previous I've just installed the file "With HW Keyobard",

No I have installed "No Keyboard" and everything works good. But whats the differnce at all? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Shame on you !!! :D

The explanation is on post #243, on the same page as your post !!!

Anyway, the difference is that the NoKbd doesn't allow keyboard customization. All the keys can be remapped (a thing that would be probably more useful to other locales, but which gives you the T9/ABC menu, for example...)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blackid185:
Successful Report Beta 1.1

* Model: ATT 8525 (Hermes)

* Language: English

* Previous keyboards installed: None

* Previous SIP changer installed: None

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Cooked WM6.1 (CRC Release 13)

I'm really liking this keyboard, goes well w/ herg62123's Manilla2D. It's cool how it suggests words as I type (even in landscape w/ my HW keyboard), just like the WM default word completion. Also it doesn't popup automatically unlike WM default keyboard (which I prefer especially in landscape mode). Lastly, I can use my Fn button to type numbers & symbols without any problems.

Keep up the great work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kristoff_sz:
Dupin,

I'm sorry but now I'n not on a flashing spree :D.

I must be online everysecond on the phone, so I cant do the flash right now.

But installing the "No_KB" seems to completly resolving the problem with misstyping.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Well, you're not helping too much, if you say that the NoKbd is ok for you. That cab is not meant for your phone, as I've said "ad nauseam".

Then, using it won't make it crash, you're right, but if you could help anyone else here understand if a real problem really exist, it would be better...

A tester has tried the FullKbd on hist AT/T Tilt phone, and has told me that the mappings are ok. Sure, he hasn't tested Polish,because he doesn't need it, but I made that cab just because you offered your help in testing it...

Getting back an "It doesn't work but I'm happy as it is" is certainly not a good way to contribute. Of the two Polish add-ons cabs that I've sent to two users, this is your feedback, and the other is just no answer at all.

It seems I should be better spending my time on another less-supported language, rather than Polish. I'm sorry for that.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mikulec:
Missing chars

Here is the txt file.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hallzz:
[Keypad] - phones with 16keys HW keyboards

I can't download

can anyone upload at rapidshare

Sorry for my english
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maxxd01:
Any advances on the backspace issue of the .cab for compact keyboards?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
The download works, you'd better retry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Yes and no. Those who have made their OEM package version of the files extracted from the Opal rom are confirming the issue. It's a bug in the Tegic libraries.

It just means that we'll have to find a workaround, and not a fix.

Obviously, if someone can tell me how to attach a debug session to device.exe without making the device or the emulator crash, it could mean a big leap forward.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Thanks, I'll update the Slovak support files with the missing info.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mikulec:
Hre is the new one saved in unicode(but there was just one mistake at the last char).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hallzz:
I already retry for 2-3 DAY but still can't download

I'm in china

please upload for me

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ajb303:
When i downloaded this, it changed my texy font. I liked it :) What is it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rions3:
xT9 default on?

Hi guys, I have installed the beta1 with the Mary V6 rom successfully. But one question I have is that how can I get the T9 function to be default on? Everytime I start using the hardware keypad, its default to ABC, and not T9. Its a minor inconvenience that I would like to get rid of, other than that, it's an awesome cab :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] leilei0209:
it works....

do not use xunlei then you can download the app
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hallzz:
我仍然进不了

那算了吧

谢谢
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
We have to try some registry key values, for that. The usual tricks are not reported as working.

Could you give me the details of your phone ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] linh_ck01:
thanks for your sharing
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Maxxd01:
Sorry I do not understood. There's any way to use the compact keyboard withouth any issue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
RC1 and Language packs now available

RC1 posts will start from this one.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Temporary Placeholder
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
* Issues: can't install it because not signed with a trusted certificate

* Model: nike touch dual

* Language: WWE but french layout

* Previous keyboards installed: beta 1.1

* Previous SIP changer installed:

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked):cooked 6.1 16keys

* Description of the issue:

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: no

* Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Old issues... but only smartphones need digital certificates, your message error is misleading. Make a soft reset, and try again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Old issues... but only smartphones need digital certificates, your message error is misleading. Make a soft reset, and try again.

BTW, did you unistall the previous beta ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
i do softreset but even don't install

yes i uninstalled the old version , soft reset and try to install the new one
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
16keys or 20keys ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
sorry 16key
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Good, I should have a 16keys user who's going to install the cab in a few minutes, so he'll give me a confirmation about this issue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
okay telle me when he does

i found that :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=432469

perhaps it canhelp you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] venelar:
I can verify works with 16key niki

Donation on the way soon. Thanks for the hard work
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mokoboy:
do you use a stock rom or a cooked one?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] shortyboy:
followed instructions correctly and all went well except i am unable to use full qwerty pad.

* Model: HTC Kaiser (TILT)

* Language: ROM: English,

* Previous keyboards installed: Stock's Hyper Dragons from 30/09/2008

* Previous SIP changer installed: No,

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): Cooked 6.1 (Hyper Dragon's III OPAL 30/09/2008)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Phr0z3n:
Incorrect Keys being displayed

Issues: Keys pressed do not produce letters on screen

Model: Vogue (Sprint Touch)

Language: English

Previous keyboards installed: Beta 1

Previous SIP changer installed: None

ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked): 6.1 HTC Offical SprintRom

Description of the issue:

1.) Pressing the "TUV (8)" Key it will switch between Caps and Normal,

2.) Pressing "WXYZ (9)" turns T9 off or on neither of these produce letters or numbers on the screen

3.) Pressing "Space (0)" returns next line.

4.) Back arrow produces Spaces.

All other keys seem to produce the correct letter/symbols

Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?: No

Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?:

1.) Uninstall Beta 1

2.) Soft Rest

3.) Install newest Cab

4.) Soft Reset.

Second soft reset did not correct issue.

Using NoHWkey Cab for the install.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Have you installed a language pack ?

If you choose on the settings a language which you have not installed, you won't get any letter, if you press a key. The main cab has no language at all, in it...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
I have a report of an AT/T user who says it installed successfully, and here on my Kaiser is workin, too. Have you installed a language on the keyboard ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
My thanks to you, Venelar ! :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Arlanthir:
Is there any way of uninstalling this and let the original Touch Keyboard (from Elfin) work ok? I tried a .cab some time ago and I literally had to hard reset so my original keyboard worked ok :S If there are any files I can backup or such, do tell ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Install of Language Packs

IMPORTANT

From the download statistics, it's clear that many users have downloaded just the main cabs, and not any Language Pack.

The main cabs don't include any language, not even english. They just have the resource files for 0409 - WWE Roms, because there might be users with WWE Roms not needing English T9 keyboards.

So, as said on the first page (now in a Bigger fontsize), you'll have to choose a Language Pack from post #2, including English.

If requested by many users, I'll include the English LPack in the main cabs. Let me know your opinion about it.

Thanks,

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
You have to make an hard reset because each phone which includes the old Touch keyboards will get those support files overwritten by the ones included in the new cabs. The backup idea is good, but a setup.dll should be made to grant you this option, and believe me, this work has been time-consuming enough. More support should be needed, to create this option from scratch.

Anyway, I believe that there might be some useful cabs with the old Touch Keyboards, around. You could look for them in the Wiki Sections of the forum.

BJK
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wmn79:
Dutch language pack will not install

* Issues: Dutch language pack will not install

* Model: Niki100

* Language:WWE

* Previous keyboards installed:diamond keyboard by gullum (included in rom) and DupinBJK EzInput 1.5 beta 1

* Previous SIP changer installed:none

* ROM version (6.0/6.1 - HTC/Cooked):6.1 cooked gullums Manilla

* Main Keyboard cab installed (NoKbd, KPad, CpKbd, FullKbd):KPad

* Language Packs installed on the Keyboard:Dutch

* Description of the issue:Not able to install the language pack

* Did this issue exist even before the cab was installed?:n/a

* Detailed steps to reproduce the issue ?: It seems that the cab is corrupt since I also cannot open the cab in Win CE cabmanager.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DupinBJK:
Strange, I can open the cab without issues, with WinCe CabManager. I guess it's the uploaded file. Could you retry in a few minutes ?

Thanks !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Arlanthir:
Of course, I am not asking you to do anything, I just wanted to know which files to backup :P I've found some old Touch Keyboards but they don't work as I want (as mine does) and the portuguese libraries suck :S