yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jtoyz2:
so they using a bunch of free apps like S2 then tell you to buy wisbar and charge you for iphone layout...load of crap...maybe i should load their cab here on xda...that should give a taste of their own medicine
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr J:
would that then be warez?

wow, that's a headf**k :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] agovinoveritas:
Bomb the server? Hackers you know what I mean!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotrod101:
Seeing as we have many very talented programer, coders, as members on XDA - Developers.com maybe what we should all do together is come up with our own IPhone Theme package, better then the ones offered on these sites and make sure that it is right out there in the whole Web, easy to find for even all of the noobs out there. Make it so that it becomes one of the first search results which come up - linking to this site and offering the cab as a whole. Make it free still as always intended with donations appreciated as always. All developers would get credit and any donations would be devided equally between all those involved in developing the software, and package. This would put them all out of business or at least, make it not worth the effort anymore. If people can find the FREE theme/package easier, faster and the installation is easier, these other sites would not stand a chance. We may never be able to stop them all; however, we can make it really difficult for them to actually profit.

Even offer other additional themes besides IPhone Themes - Custome themes, Diamond themes etc. All available as packages free to download with donations appreciated - Devided equally between all involved in development still.

The problem is that this site is not one of the first results that come up when doing a web search unless you already know about searching for this site. All of the noobs will find these other scammer's sites first and have been getting suckered into paying for apps that are available for free, only because they don't know how to search for stuff better or don't want to make the effort to search further into the net to find this site.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] whitealien:
fck, that really sucks! !!

S2 apps were my favorite, damn stealers :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shadowline:
Id pay for the applications if they were given up for sale officially....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PDAPhoneJunkie:
This is really riduculous all these idiots trying to earn a dime of someone else's labor. I sell the iPhone Theme that I built. But I would never try to include A_C's slide to unlock or anything other copyrightd software in my development. I just tell people to go download it here. That's not cool to sell someone else's work. By the way I've had a lot of customers come from iphonethemeforppc.com and iphonethemeforpocketpc.com (Formerly myiphonetheme.com) and say that the theme is not functional and the shortcuts/image paths for WA/WAD are all broken. I urge every one not buy ffrom them. Not because I sell my own but because these people will never get back to you if you e-mail them and because they eran money of guys like A_C's work. I hope you can start developing again A_C! Take care.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mlk:
Web-resort

These scumbags have an online email, send something like this and bombard them!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
What about assigning each program the requirement to have a registration/license key upon use. Then the installer would have to visit a website to gain the registration key. The website could contain a very large disclosure on it stating this is freeware. You could still list it as free but the user would then know it was free by visiting the site. Additionally, you could make the keys temporary for renewel.

Just ideas to get this thing back off the ground!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PDAPhoneJunkie:
Although it might not work I'm going to do the same! I think A_C has made some of the finest apps in the Pocket PC community. I will do whatever I can to get these queer bags to quit selling his work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mario23:
We all need to get the word out to everybody about these people.

I want to forward this to anyone I can think of including pocketnow, wmexperts, unwired ect...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PDAPhoneJunkie:
Wow I can't imagine how A_C feels. I hate it when there is something like this that you can't do much about. Was this app ever copyrighted? I'm afraid if not then he really can't do much about it :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] !Kernel Panic!:
and it looks like they are using Tene's PCM keyboard as well. Those bastards. I'd be happy to buy all the S2 programs even though I have already donated for each in the past and more than likely in the future as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hibby50:
**** damn **** and piss
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jrn6264:
ehhh, ur latest s2u2 releases have been unstable anyway i'm back to ver. 1.05
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kwickone:
wow, that was not very nice. they work for everyone else, so it must be user error.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinoalbert:
hahahah yeah USER ERROR indeed!

works for me here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snachez:
Dont feed the trolls. :rolleyes:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotrod101:
You just made me laugh:D

I needed a good laugh after reading this sad news about A_C stopping development of his wonderful apps
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] studentjunk:
I have reviewed paypal's acceptable use policy, and I think the company violates it:

What is PayPal's policy regarding intellectual property rights? Question : Answer : PayPal prohibits transactions for counterfeit items and unauthorized replicas or copies of items. Examples include (but are not limited to) counterfeit watches, handbags or accessories, and unauthorized copies of software programs, video games, music, movies, television programs, and photographs. Users that offer access to copyrighted materials through PayPal must maintain an adequate process to receive and resolve infringement notifications from rights owners.

PayPal also prohibits transactions for devices that allow domestic video game consoles to play back-up or import versions of video games, including mod chips, game enhancers, and boot disks.

I think you should file a complaint, A_C.

edit: I just did.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hotrod101:
We all should - I have already posted several complaints to PAYPAL as have others regarding several of the various sites offering A_C's Apps
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Artanis:
Damn shame.

I'm not a lawyer nor do i have the capacity to develop these wonderful apps.

As much as I hate to admit it, though S2u2 may not be universal it is definitely ready for commercial release. Less useful apps are terribly over priced.

That being said, I do have some exp with the law!

As developer i believe you do have right to request him to stop using any images or references to/from or about your applications. A simple seese and desist letter would serve as notice should you decide to take further actions against these dirt bags. After all, there is a record of every transaction made through that site.

I little written Signature goes along way.

Again this is personal advice only.

Hope you keep punching at the keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xxza:
so paypal or ISP still hasn't done anything about these sites?? what a shame...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gobmonster:
I can't even be mad at you. Maybe it is time you licensed these apps. Make it cheap if you do so. This would allow you to legally prevent these guys from passing it in their downloads (not to say its legal for them to include your program in their packages at all).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djsiva:
BS

I hate to make things any worse than they already are, but even though the guy has his BS disclaimer about it being someone else's work...S2U 1.21 is still available for download in the members area. (with no other disclaimer)

I actually paid for this sh** a while back; I figured I would login to see if any changes had been made to the members area. Of course, none have been made, and there is no reference to AC directly. I've attached a screen shot to show you what's on the inside. I hope this helps in speeding up the process to get this a**hole to stop distributing software that isn't his.

Nate
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hughieoh:
They Steal great work ?

Let's hack their work then....

those thieves gonna spend lot of time and money to support their customers

so why don't we make key gen and stuff to ruin theirs too !!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tester1328:
Undercover...

...You worked as an undercover agent for xda/A_C community, thanks...

I think that site will not never point a correct link to here because buyer will scream about “WTF”…here so many themes are download in free.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Zoltair Wright:
You're my hero, A_C

A_C, thank you so much for all the amazing software you've created. You're one of the best developers I've ever seen grace this forum. I think almost everyone here is using some piece of your work, and we owe you a great debt of gratitude. (And donations! Send A_C a donation to show how much you appreciate his work.) We can't thank you enough, man.

Which is why I'm begging you not to quit.

What can I say? This isn't a perfect world but it sure has some perfect assholes on it. The guy/gal/slimy creature who tried to profit from your work is one of these assholes. You should know, though, that for every person who tries to steal credit for something you've done - well, there's a hundred of us who are your fans, whose devices you've made a hundred times better, whose appreciation you'll always have. Don't let a couple of jerks ruin the wonderful things you've done for this community.

That's why I'm asking you to keep on developing, sir. Don't think of the people who do bad, but all the good that's come from your software. You should continue making your software better, and if someone steals, then tell us! We'll handle the rest. I hope the reaction to this incident shows that we're behind you 100%.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] d-signet:
its a shame, but i respect your decision.

unfortunately, the current version of s2u2 is too buggy on my artemis (crashes the phone occasionally forcing it to do a reset when i turn it on) for me to continue running it so i will need to remove it instead of, as i had hoped, waiting for the next release.

Unfortunately, you're only going to hurt the users. these guys will just continue to sell the version they have already got.

you COULD always look into the different licensing options avalable to you...eg, GNU, MIT, Creative Commons ....

there may well be one out there which allows you to continue your development but stops this behaviour.

Its a part of development life i'm afraid, there will ALWAYS be guys selling this sort of thing on eBay etc if nowhere else, just like they sell xda unlockers etc which are also freely available on this site.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinoalbert:
bro, since you have access to their member's area....could you post an announcement there that the stuffs you bought from them are free and then post a link pointing to this thread here? Or maybe you can PM some other members and point them to this forum or to xda-dev site :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AkshayGenius:
Yes!! That Would Be Great!

+1

Yes!! Brilliant idea! I think that'll do great! All the people who have bought this scam would realize well, its a scam and then he would get sooo screwed because people who actually BOUGHT IT would be pissed and this would almost nullify the scam since if the people who BOUGHT IT realize that this is fake then I'm sure atleast some of them would pursue serious action.

What do you guz think?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dinoalbert:
but Im not sure if their members area have a dicsussion forum or just a download area? Well... if he can post the announcement, lets just hope the owner wont delete it right away and then ban him :) thats why I also suggested he just PM other members
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deuzeff:
That's the "problem" of freeware.

You've got on one side the "believers" like (most of) us, helping you fixing bugs and donating money if possible, then we get a wonderful freeware, always updated and supported.

On the other hand, you've got MF, let's say it, who are just here to make money, and of course freewares like your apps are a great deal, because it is simply awesome.

As people said, license your products, sell it for 10$ (which is really nothing is compraison to the quality) or so, you'll have way more protection.

Thanks A_C for all the good work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] YoLoLo:
If i was a pirat, i would say :

Go and attack servers, email and all of these bull**** websites which sell freewares !

A good DoS (Deny Of Service) in their mug would make them think twice...

But, unfortunately, i'm not a pirat, i'm just a legal guy... :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AkshayGenius:
Okay, I've got a solution:

Report the website to the following:

http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/crimestoppers/index.htm

http://www.fastiis.org/our_services/enforcement/reportingPiracy/

http://www.ieg-uk.org/index.php?s=Public

I request everyone to mail/report to the above. This should just do it.

I also request A_C to provide required documents(proof of ownership/licence) as and when needed.

Please do report the website, put pressure on them to take action, if they receive many mails, they WILL have to look into it!

Akshay
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tester1328:
You are not alone.

That’s true, I agree your point of view.

I think, here song for you A_C:

Hong Kong Band – Beyond : 海闊天空 (Boundless Oceans Vast Skies)

KTV Version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwXm7HLA1k

MTV Version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_qIycirRA

Beyond/ translated by XU LIANG

http://wenwen.soso.com/z/q72398395.htm

English Version:

A_C, we understood your feeling but you are not alone. “SUSPEND” is not only ways, please consider what “d-signet” said. (Please keep in mind WE always support YOU A_C.)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AkshayGenius:
Okay people, I think its best to report here http://www.fastiis.org/our_services/enforcement/reportingPiracy/reportIllegalSales.php with the following info:

for www.webresort.com - http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=www.webresort.com&tld=com

for www.iphonethemforppc.com - http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=iphonethemeforppc.com&prog_id=godaddy

The above info gives name/location required for reporting

Come on guys, report and get this thing over with!

Akshay
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jchrist:
Donation sent. Great stuff A_C!! Thanks for all your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] djsiva:
Sounds great, but unfortunately they have removed any forums and there is no list of other members. Here is a screen shot of the main page inside.

Nate
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Simon_Warner:
Best would be to include more info in the apps about the developper with a link to this site and the explicit remark that this is freeware and you have been ripped off if you paid for it. OR make it apps you have to pay and register for.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] slbailey1:
I'm pissed!! I just left web-resort.com a comment that let them know what I think.

I will also buy a license.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] SXT82:
i donated some weeks ago .. but i will also buy a license!

A_C please keep on working ... S2U2 is a musthave!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] evermick:
Support98, get your **** away. Show some respect. It is okay to say "it makes theme perfect if you get A_C's S2U2, by downloading here <link to xda-developers>".

But it is ****ed up to pack A_C's app into your ****ing theme!! Don't ruin the whole world
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] evermick:
I am not a good English writer. If there is a template, I will definitely do the copy and paste job! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] evermick:
Actually, I am willing to buy a license legally for A_C's stuffs. No kidding here.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chmckay:
IBTRules, can I ask if my software (the Lakeridge Software products), are still being included in the download? I have been having some difficulties with these guys (some of which use to actually send out cracks for WisBar and WisBar Desktop). I still get people who think that I'm the one involved with them (I get a lot of nasty emails from people who think that I set up that website or that I am affiliated with them) which I'm trying to get cleared up. I'd like to know if they're sending out my software without permission or if they're just linking to it.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] d-signet:
guys, DONT write to crimestoppers etc,

this guy has done nothing illegal. it's free software and he is only distributing a link on where to get it, along with other stuff. At the most, all he has to say is that they are paying for the OTHER stuff and includes a link to this free software as an added bonus (which is basically what he IS saying on here in support98's message)

A lot of people here think that it's immoral, but it is NOT illegal. All you're going to be doing is wasting enforcement agency's time.

He is NOT selling s2U2, he is providing his customers with a link where they can download it. I think everyone here is getting a little caught up in the moment.

A_C , i may not agree with your decision to stop dev work (as i mentioned earlier,the only ones who weill be hurt are US guys), but i totally understand and respect it.

All the best, and thanks for your hard work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] T_Bird:
ok realy dig it A_C But it's realy a black day for XDA_Devs you are one of xda 's best (nr 1 for me) Devs around

i hope someone will @%$& there web sites if they keep on selling free apps this is one of those days i wish i had the skills to do it my self cause i realy hate those nitwits would have made it imposible for them to keep there sites up

i realy think they no what they are doing and try to b****** us of with lies & made up(of) b****** stories

they just want to make easy money and don't care about nobody

what so ever

just more easy money and more and m....and then they can buy them self's some "friend's"

hope you ll be back soon

__these kind of humans are destroying the earth and our lives just for ****ing money what the hell money got to do with life ?

no that war lies apartheid and over production are essentiel to give and keep up it's value isn't that nice

must have been realy smart and caring people who came up with that idee __
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] agovinoveritas:
The point is that he is offering the link, giving the impression that he made it or is associated. If someone had a link to some of my short stories on a site that sells books, I would be pissed too because it is being used as an "extra."
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wildcard140679:
Its really sad to be reading this news of A_C putting a stop to future development of his great S2 tools.

Its a cruel world, tonz of free ware code is used, abused and even branded to a new product and then sold.

I doubt that you can put a stop to it, with the internet not having any boders and in each countery the rules change or don't apply at all.

If S2 would change from freeware, to a product you have to buy. I would gladly buy a copy for my phone. But aslong as it comes with free updates :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rl66:
:( just too bad i love your s2 app...

by the way on ebay there is also people who sell the rom flash of our rom too
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NEWT0N:
My complain to hostgator.com (the host of www.iphonethemeforppc.com) was answered, they are looking into the issue:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mozillaxom:
Wow really bad news

So we just hope A_C will solved this problem quickly, You are best developers in here and we all like your application, and we need your come back in here

A_C, WE LOVE YOU !!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Hydroxpert:
I think this would be a hard decision for A_C to make as well...and i am rather hmm upset. the first application i downloaded when i received my first wm device, the omnia, was s2u2 simply because it had the air of....elegance about it and really made the phone look good. we should all boycott the iphonethemeforppc thing so that he goes down!

and A_C, i totally respect your decision. spending time developing freeware is indeed honourable, according to me at least :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] TheChampJT:
I definitely hate to see this be the outcome of everything, but I'm glad to see you taking this action :D! Everytime I see these eBay sellers and random sites selling the work of the users work really gets me pissed.

Don't want to sound completely crazy now, but if I were you, I'd take down all links and attachments around! Then see how they distribute the package without the link, and to give their customers a more difficult time installing the packages, causing no further purchases and maybe returns, which equals NO MORE WEBSITE!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr.yahya:
ME TOO !! The theft 2day is called quotation .
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PDAPhoneJunkie:
Some of us from PPCGeeks did paypal reports. I also e-mailed iphonethemeforppc.com and asked him why he thinks his theme looks so good when it's all stuff someone else made. He has yet to reply. I HATE THESE JERKS!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ssj5trunks:
I think i do stop the development of iFonz, the site http://web-resort.com sell it!!!!!!!

Now i contact these criminals.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NEWT0N:
For the webpage:

http://www.iphonethemeforpocketpc.com/purchase.php

The hoster is:

>>tracert www.iphonethemeforpocketpc.com

(...)

1 <1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1

(...)

21 191 ms 211 ms 213 ms host187.hostmonster.com [74.220.207.187]

Abuse reports can be submitted here:

http://helpdesk.hostmonster.com/kb/index.php?x=&mod_id=4

Cheers, NEWT0N
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deuzeff:
I think it's time for
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ExiMoR:
yea!

The world is at end!

PANIIIIIIIIIIIC!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] syrguy1969:
Well...A_C has stopped, ssj5trunks has stopped, I guess it is only a matter of time before Tene decides to stop. It is a shame, the entire spirit of this forum is deteriorating before our eyes!!

Both the developers and us members deserve better.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] derekwilkinson:
A_C, you are, without a doubt, the BEST Windows Mobile developer. (IMHO). Apps like S2U2 and S2V are AMAZING, and S2P is probably the best! I love all of your apps. Please don't let these assholes stop the development of these amazing applications...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deuzeff:
Damn...

if PCM suite would be gone, I would kind of think of buying an iPhone