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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
The only thing I've seen cause a freeze on start is GPS opening.

I've only seen this occur when I've had invalid GPS COM port settings. You may have incorrect GPS settings if that 20% battery level checkbox has corrupted your settings. To be safe for now, please make sure that 20% checkbox is checked.

OMG - you're right. Sorry - I've pretty much replaced all of the internals of the original GCC - the new code works in MetresPerSecond and KilometresPerHour rather than in Knots... and the conversion ratio is.... 1 kph = 0.539956803 knots

That's the 2:1 difference you've seen

Sorry - really embarrassed about that one - my bad - all my testing in the last week has been in the pace rather than speed display - and in the miles UI rather than in km... really sorry.

There will be a new version out this week!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Thank you Stuart for your response.

Matthieu
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Thank you for your patience!

I'm *really* embarrassed about that knots versus kilometers thing.

So embarrassed... that I've put work (and sleep) to one side...

http://www.navmi.com/index.php/2009/12/14/navmi-0-3/

With download at http://www.navmi.com/0.3/navmi.cab

All those "we" words are a bit of an exaggeration!

Hopefully this release is a good one - will take it out for some more testing later tonight.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Hi!

Is there a FAQ for Navmi?

If you make FAQ you can answer to this:

Why did you call it Navmi?

If I want to use it just for recording tracks to KML, how do I turn off Profile, Upload and "Upload activities immediataly"?

What is "Lap"? Is it measuring laps, lap times, lap statistics? Where do I see it?

What is AutoLap?

What are Min and Max speed under Charting?

What is Course and how to use it?

What is "show map download option"?

What are Navmi maps? And Navmi mobile and NoNames?

What is Median in speed and elevation?

Thank You in advance :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Working!

For now :)

It's snowing outside, and it's midnight here, so I can test it only inside.

Working great!

Gets GPS lock inside in few seconds.

This time works great even with "Stop GPS if battery <20%" is turned off.

I will not use it with downloadable maps because I have very expensive data plan. So I am waiting when there will be possible to use my maps inside Maps directory (like in GPS Cycle Computer: .JPG + .GMI)

Will there be option to insert GPS position (flag, waypoint or whatever it's called) to track when I press Pause?

P.S. Sorry if I type some words wrong, I've never learned English, I know i only from using computer :D

P.P.S. Add Navmi and link to Your page on first page of this thread (If AndyZap allows it) or make new thread and post link to it in here.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Quercus:
Hi there. Thanks for the good work with this app.

As you see there are plenty of people willing to test... Have you considered making this open source? Releasing the code could make some other people to join you in the development and make Navmi THE gps app for sports.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Thanks for the feedback :)

I've posted some FAQ answers on a new FAQ on http://www.navmi.com/index.php/faq/ - including the open source answer - I'm thinking about open source - and about plugin architectures... interested to hear people's thoughts.

I'm afraid the FAQ plugin I used isn't working very well - so things like links and images aren't working... so I will change the FAQ to a "normal page" in some spare time soon.

I think the maps should all work offline in 0.3 - if they don't then I'm going to need some existing .GMI and .JPG combos to play with - any volunteers, please email me a zip at me[at]slodge[dot]com - but I might not get around to looking at these during this year now!

No idea about how to add something to the first page.

And if I start a new thread, I'm not sure where it should be - I'm still very much a newbie on this forum.

Thanks again for the feedback

Stuart
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Currently there is an option to lap on pause - and there is a separate lap button (it's the up arrow on the right)

When you lap, this does record a "waypoint" - but not one that gets named or very significantly exposed.

I think I need to understand more about what people want here.

- Do you want to name these waypoints?

- Do you want these waypoints marked specially in the output GPX/KML?

Sorry if I'm being a bit slow in understanding - I am mainly coming at this from a runner and triathlon perspective - when I go out and ride, I just go out and ride - having a lap every 5km is useful to me, but I don't normally have time to name my waypoints - except maybe the occasional cake shop.

Stuart
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] 20100v:
Hello,

I'm using Gps cycle computer since One year every day (log my bike trip to go and back between home/work) 2x26km per day.

I'm happy to test your new version of navmi. Previously the log was uploaded to crossways. Now it's on RunSaturday. I've created a account on RunSaturday,

putted some gpx files. Everything is ok.

But on navmi, when I try to verify my user name/password on the navmi settings, I've a "Validation Fail - Exception".

I've a GPRS connexion , but I know this connexion is limited to somes port.

Do you know which port use the navmi software to contact RunSaturday ?

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Yes, I've seen your page after I wrote this :)

Now I understand what are you doing, and what is the point of your version of program.

I have used Cycle Computer (and will use navmi) when riding a bycicle from point A to point B. (And maybe back to A) Without laps.

And it would be nice to use waypoints that can be seen on output GPX/KML, something like "In this place i rested", "Here I've seen... something", "Here you have to turn left"- if I am sending KML to my friends and telling them where on that road is somethin to see.

This exist in latest version of GPS Cycle Computer.

I plan to use this program just for fun and for recording my tracks to see them in Google earth, and send to frieds.

I don't plan to record laps, or any special data.

But.. after I've seen your page, I will maybe change my mind ;)

And if I am the only one that has that requests, you don't have to implemet them.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Yes! Maps are working!

gmi + jpg.

In options under "Maps" i've selected "off" and turned off "Auto download maps" under Plotting.

One new problem!

I've selected "AutoPause" - never

"AutoLap" - never

"Lap on pause" unchecked

And in 12 minutes of testing my recorded track has 76 laps!

And few laps have strange times (I've tested it inside, with no moving):

1 - 0.0km - 0:11:30

2 - 0.0km - 0:00:00

....

4 - 0.0km - -1:59:59

....

13 - 0.0km - -1:59:59

...

19 - 0.0km - -1:59:57

.....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Hi

I just use port 80 (but may implement SSL one day!)

I think this was probably a software bug - there was an installer/build issue (not a software bug, but a problem in packaging - honest!).

Are you using 0.3?

Regardless - I think you've managed to upload now.

I haven't yet added the crossways support back in - I'd like to work out a way to support multiple servers (although obviously I'll make my own service the default one!)

Thanks for testing the software for me!

Stuart
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
OK - I understand.

I will definitely make this optional - but will add them (but not before 2010!)

One more thing... there is also the possibility to add camera support (and to auto-upload the photos to runsaturday - or maybe to flickr with a runsat link) - would that be of interest.

I thinking navmi can support both "serious sports training" as well as more "social" touring :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Excellent I'm glad the .gmi maps are working.

There's no longer an 'only show 1 map image' option so the navmi does require more graphics power than gcc - let me know if this causes any poor performance.

I'm still seeing some horrid (hard to work out) bugs here with map downloading - basically if I zoom in/out and scroll around a lot while maps are being downloaded then I can corrupt the map file cache - I will fix this - but I guess most people won't see it.

On the lapping, that is a simple bug to fix - sorry! For now, please just set the autolap to the highest value you can (0.4 will be along this week!)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
And now a question...

On my Omnia, the elevation readings are really bad - really bad - sometimes 100s of metres out.

Are you seeing similarly bad results on your devices? If so, then are these results due to navmi or did you see them with GCC? Or with other apps?

Thanks

Stuart
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] 20100v:
Yes I'm using the 0.3 version. It works throw wifi, but not gprs. It worked before (with GCC) on crossways throw gprs.

Good Idea to implement plugin for support multiple server. (I use also trackme and use my own server).

Thanks to maintain this great software.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] rhtizzy:
Yes, I use an HTC Touch HD and see the same horrible elevation readings using GCC. Sorry, I haven't any info on other apps.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
I've just tested it from home to work.

When I am driving it is showing altitudes from 180m to 200m.

Wikipedia says my town is at 173m.

So, this doesn't look so bad. I will try to compare it with Garmin GPS when I get back home.

But when I go to Diary and select this track, altitude graph shows on the left side numbers up: 1841 and down: -1787. What are this numbers?

And when I look at map there are just blue lines across whole map!

I will make screenshoot when I get home.

Again I forgot to set AutoLap to high volume, and I have more than 1000 laps.

This is maybe why there are problems with track on map?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
In the middle of recording track I could make pictures?

Wow, that would be great!

And maybe geo tag them in EXIF.

But, if you add a lot of features to your program, won't it become large and slow?

If not, go for it ;)

Well, that would be nice ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Thanks for the ongoing feedback

I've been playing again (it's snowing so I'm not going out running!)

0.4 will probably have this as the main display (for speed, not pace) - but I'm not sure I'll ever really use it (when I'm cycling navmi's actually in a back pocket!)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Jgobeil:
Nice display ! It would look better in black - a matter of taste of course ! I hope that the speed range will be adjustable... 90 kmh is a bit fast for trekking - no need to get a speeding ticket from the trail cops !
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] andyw_wydna:
I think that would be fantastic! i've got used GPS Cycle Computer for some time now. I think that all of the changes you've suggested in this thread are good.

I'll certainly help test on my Palm Treo 750!

Andy
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Great new display !!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Nice display :)

Here are the pictures from Diary from todays driving (7 minutes, arround 2-3km)

Elevation:

And map.

I have only few parts of my city turned into maps, so ignore green places :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
That looks problematic :(

Not sure if it's just caused by the bad lap data.

I'm going to assume it is for now...

But can I also check, which of the elevation settings do you have checked - especially around saving/displaying relative elevation?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Selected icon - bicycle

Distance - km

Elevation - m

Show relative elevation - off

Apply elevation correction - 0

Charting - Min speed 1

Charting - Max speed 60

Include elevation data in exported files - off

Drop first - 5

Smoothing - 3

Use median speed - off

Use median for Elevation - off
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
OMG, what is this? :confused:

navmi deleted my .JPG maps in Maps directory.

I had 39 .JPG and 39 .GMI files.

After testing the program I have only 25 .JPG files left!

.GMI still 39
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
You haven't lost them forever, have you?

Basically, there are two places when Navmi deletes maps:

1. When you choose the delete all maps button.

2. When Navmi encounters an error loading a file.

The second one was introduced because sometimes I saw some problems loading files which had been downloaded.

I'll alter the code so it doesn't delete files when in local (not downloading) mode - but this still suggests some other problems is going on - there's some underlying problem which stopped the maps being loaded in the first place.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
No :)

That's strange. I've tried it few times. It allways deleted some .JPG files.

I didn't touch "Delete all maps"

This files are working with GPS Cycle Computer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
is it possible to add one more option?

it would be great if we could select directory for storing track (.navmi .kml and .gpx) files
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
New version for test

That option's already there - on the same option page as the maps folder location.

Latest version for test:

http://www.navmi.com/index.php/2009/12/17/0-4-2-cameras-named-waypoints-a-new-color-picker-and-that-dashboard/

- includes named waypoints (not currently linked in to the GPX or KML or runsat exports)

- includes integrated photo taking

- includes the new speedo dashboard

It's now got everything I need to take with me skiing next week :)

Time for some sleep!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
:D This happens when I test programs after midnight.

But I see you are even better ;)

Skiing? Great! Have fun!

I will try new version today or tomorrow.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Last one I promise

http://www.navmi.com/index.php/2009/12/17/0-4-3-waypoints-export/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] andyw_wydna:
Don't stop...

...just keep 'em coming!

:) :) :) :) :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Thanks

I'm pretty happy with 0.4.3

The only issues I know about are:

- I think there are some upload issues with "empty laps" - laps with zero time and zero distance - I'll look at these.

- I think the final output still needs some smoothing before I run analysis on it - e.g. when I upload to runsat, I calculate speeds from the raw data - and some of it is a bit "jerky" and a bit "too quick" - Usain Bolt can't run as fast as some of that trace suggests. The good news is that the underlying time and distance data is correct - so on average the right data is being calculated...

That's definitely all for pre-xmas - have a good yuletide everyone - please do post any positive or negative feedback here - hopefully I'll be back with more next year!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] andyw_wydna:
So am I!

Tried it out on the way to work this morning!

I like the speedo! Just what I wanted. Is there any chance that you could show the maximum speed on it as well as average and instantaneous? That would make it even better!

Thx, Andy
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Excellent - thanks for the nice feedback.

Yeah - in fact it almost made the last release.

I was also wondering about allowing users to set up "Zone" targets - e.g. to have a "green" central zone with "red" zones either side... the colour configuration might make that interesting!

Anyways... regardless....

Happy Christmas all - I'll be back in a week - and I'll be very interested to read all your latest comments, bugs, reviews and ideas!

Please do keeping try Navmi out - please also try logging activities to runsaturday - doing this will help me take a look at your data - so I'll maybe be able to understand more about what the bugs are and what you all might want from GPS on your mobiles.

Stuart :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
I've uploaded a blog post about today's test run - the pictures should show you how to setup and take photos.

Also, if you do like using KML, then definitely do check out the "runsaturday play gadget" at the bottom of that post - click on the play button in the middle of the rectangle. You can create this gadget for any navmi activity using the "share tab" on an uploaded runsat activity - or you can view it directly within runsaturday by choosing "Earth" on the runsat player screen (e.g. on here)

That really is it for now - have a great Christmas!

Stuart (off skiing)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Recording tracks is working fine now. No random lines on map.

But I still have few hundreds of laps.

And when I export to GPX and KML Google Earth opens file, but doesn't show anything :(

I see you have no problems with this on your test run, so it's maybe issue with my PDA.

I have MDA Compact IV (HTC Diamond). And this problems are on that device.

I will try on my other PDA, Loox N560.

And I maybe take my brother's HD2 to test navmi ;)

Happy Christmas!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
I'm still packing - supposed to be driving to the airport in 5 hours!

On the autolap problem:

Can you try renaming your settings file (navmi.config) - and/or check inside for what the value of AutoLapDistanceInUnits is?

If that value is zero (or negative) then I can't see any reason why autolap should be kicking in.

If all else fails, you could try completely deleting the installation directory and reinstalling.

On the empty points in GPX/KML:

I'm assuming these are caused by the autolap problem.

However.... if not, then maybe (just maybe) these might be caused by string formatting - if you look at a KML file, the numbers don't contain commas instead of decimal points do they? I just spotted this bug today when experimenting with some International settings.

Sorry you're seeing problems!

But glad it gives you an excuse to steal the HD2 :)

HC!

Stuart
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] andyw_wydna:
Stuart,

I like the idea of the zones a lot. Lets face it, that's what we do in the gym when it's too cold to cycle outside.

Have a good Christmas,

Andy
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
OK, it was my mistake.

After a lot of testig I've left AutoLap: 5.

I've selected 0 now, and everything is working fine now!

Yes, this could be it!

I think even te first versions of Google Maps had the same problem.

Overe here we use "," for decimal places.

You are using commas, or decimal points?

:)

One more request.

Could you add an action when I press a button? Button changes colour, device vibrates, sound..?

Sometimes it takes 1-2 seconds to change screen, and I don't know if I pressed button or not.

And one strange thing i've noticed.

On fresh install on other device, navmi icon is black with letters navmi, but on my device, I'm just installing it over last versions, icon is still from old GPS Cycle computer.

And one more quesion.

How did You download OpenPisteMap maps?

You are home on mobile phone on Wifi, turn on navmi, select auto download maps and just scroll on map do download it?

Or you download it on PC and then copy it to Mobile phone?

I hope you are having fun :)

P.S. .jpg + .gmi maps are working fine now, navmi is not deleting them!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] 20100v:
Hello

I've somes troubles with the latest version 0.4.3. when I try to launch navmi, I've everytime this failure :

navmi.exe
FormatException

à System.Double.Parse(String s, NumberStyles style, IFormatProvider provider)
à df.cg(Graphics A_0, Boolean A_1)
à df.j(Object A_0, PaintEventArgs A_1)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnPaint(PaintEventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
à Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterModalDialog(IntPtr hwnModal)
à System.Windows.Forms.Form.ShowDialog()
à bp.d(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
à Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)
à System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)
à dd.a(String[] A_0)

Hope it's can help.

Tested on Htc Diamond WM 6.1
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] TeddY89h:
thumbs up!!!

Thx for continuing this wonderful project :)!

/EDIT: Oh no! You changed the GPS "DNA" in that way, that logging is stopped, when you press the power button :( :( ! This was one of the best (and unique!!) features of GCC.

Is there any other way to switch the sceen off and lock all buttons except the power on key??

Tested on Htc Artemis WM 6.0
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Some crashs

Hi,

I have detected 2 crashs

The first is when i select "show camera option". If the directory navmi/photos does not exist, the software crashs. At the first installation, this directory is not created.

The second is just after "ask file name" screen when OK is pressed. There is a systematic crash .

navmi.exe

FormatException

à System.Double.Parse(String s, NumberStyles style, IFormatProvider provider)

à df.cg(Graphics A_0, Boolean A_1)

à df.j(Object A_0, PaintEventArgs A_1)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnPaint(PaintEventArgs e)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterModalDialog(IntPtr hwnModal)

à System.Windows.Forms.Form.ShowDialog()

à bp.d(Object A_0, EventArgs A_1)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

à System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

à dd.a(String[] A_0)

(Same crashs as 20100v)

Thanks for the all great evolutions in Navmi

Thanks Stuart !!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] matthieu60:
Some ideas for the crash, i can't use Navi during my Holidays :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Same problems here.

Hollywoof is on skiing, so we have to wait :)

Use it without options that crash device, or use GPS Cycle Computer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] hollywoof:
Hi All

I'm back (just) - with lots of fun had - but ended with a big(ish) crash... so I'll be coding rather than running for the next week!

Sounds like there are a few things to look at....

1. This crash - I think this must be down to decimal point problems - "2,5" versus "2.5" - I will try to sort this out tomorrow.

2. The problems with the power button - I'll have to take a look at that - on the Omnia, I have a lock button which blanks the screen to save power and on the Dell Axim v51 I've worked out how to dim the backlight using the main power button - I'm not aware how other devices do it, but I'll have a dig around to try to get this working on HTC's too.

Thanks for the testing results - and for patience waiting for fixes - I should get something out in the next 24 hours!

Stuart