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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Amaze

I tested out Amaze last night. Really works pretty well for a free voice navigation system. Of course, it is not entirely feature rich, but then again you are not paying $300 for the software or a monthly subscription charge.

Amaze has a satellite map view, but the services they are getting them from are not base din the US. As such, satellite maps of the US outsideof major cities seems spotty. My workplace, in Los Angeles, was covered, but 5 minutes on the freeway took me right out of the maps area.

That said, the non-satellite street maps do provide coverage. The program has two views, arrow-direction and map, including a 3D head up map.

The voice navigation worked well, though admittedly I tested it driving from work to home and back, so it was a well-known route. Nonetheless, the voice was clear and the directions seemed to work well. Both the simple arrow view and the mpa view were usable.

One trick I tried was to have Amaze running under my Google Maps. That way I had voice nav and got satellite view coverage at the same time. of course, this only works if both programs choose the same route.

Amaze does not have traffic conditions and obviously cannot reroute you around obstacles. You get what you pay for. But if you want a voice nav program that is free and will give you directions from A to B then this works very well with the Verizon agps.

Devin
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] The Shadowman:
First of all thank you Skywing for all your contributions

I have the MR1 loaded followed by your instructions which included your cab file however sadly I cannot bring the gal to life.

I am using Google Maps and I get the "seeking GPS satellites" and it will stay at (0) and then finally times out after several minutes.

If I use the Freedom Key chain GPS I locate 8-9 birds right away however I want to use the internal GPS.

What am I doing wrong or do I need to correct this?

Thank you

The Shadowman
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] The Shadowman:
Hi folks

Well no one seemed to have the answer so I decided to use the removal cab file; it does not work. I run it and the message is "unsuccessful"

Can I get a little assistance for this?

Thank you

The Shadowman
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deboy_001:
Are you sure it's not something silly like Location still set to 911 only? Or ports not set to com4 and to let windows manage gps automatically?

As far as the uninstall cab... Noone really knows. I think it works for some and not for others. one sure way is the hard reset :rolleyes:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] The Shadowman:
Thank you for your input

I verfied the all of the setup items as you mentioned and it is as instructed; IMO the GPS radio is being seen because it goes to the seeking for Sat comment with the progressive dots however never locks.

Certainly I would like to have this work rather that use the Freedom keychain however if it will not not then uninstalling the cab is desirable w/o a hard rest.

I would appreciate any additional assistance available

Thank you again

The Shadowman
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] sfreemanoh:
I figured out the problem I was having. Now, I'm still getting 0 GPS satellite connections, but I'm going to try it outside when I go to lunch in a few minutes, the building may just be blocking the connections...I used the test app, and it worked once, and failed 3 times, so we'll see.

Edit: Well, I dunno...it wasn't working, then I just restarted the phone (again, it was definitely not the first time), but now google maps is working.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] The Shadowman:
By all means please share what you did

FYI I loaded the custom cab after the SW update and still have NADA; meaning it goes into searching mode but never locks and then times out.

What is the test that you refer to?

Thank you for all your assistance

Shadowman
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] damcis:
Thanks to Skywing and Valhalla Legend (that's the name of the cab I installed) for this software. I don't do custom roms, but I wanted the gps to work for my google maps and whatever gps software I use besides vznav.

It did take me a few soft resets to get it working though. But it works great!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] binkky:
Having a rough go of this at this point. Hope you guys can help.

I flashed to MR1. I set location to on, installed the gps server cab. I then installed franson gpsgate and tomtom.

Can't get the GPS to launch. TomTom states "No GPS Device" or something to that effect.

Program set to Com4, 4800 baud

Franson Windows intermediate in, Comm 2 out / comm 8 out (tried both). I can select the Franson comm port in Tomtom. But nothing.

On the last DCD rom I used I had to use GPSlauncher. That doesn't work now at all.

I have tried to install AstroGPS launcher and that sits there and does jack squat. Won't even launch itself let alone my GPS.

I have since done a hard reset and set up my phone how I wanted it again sans GPS, but I want to give GPS another go.

Any insight would be way less disheartening than the rest of this weekend has gone.

**Note** I am trying to use GPS only, not aGPS as I'm not paying those fat cats for anything more than the minimum.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Xylite:
Similar Experience

I'm running into similar problems as binkky. I tried using both the CAB and the manual install after upgrading to wm6.1, but cannot seem to get any GPS tracking info (Google Maps says its acquiring and stays at (0) satellites found). Frustrating weekend for me as well...

Seems like there are more and more people having trouble toward the end of this thread, is there something that changed since Skywing's release? Anyway, I'm just about ready to give up altogether. Too bad I put so much time in :-/
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ad720:
I am having a problem with the step above that is noted "optional". I have done everything and not I have one file in /windows dir that is named "gpsapi.dll" (this is the downloaded file) and one named "gpsapi1.dll" (the original file). Is this correct?

I am unable to connect using google maps (No GPS receiver was found error) and Live Search just hangs on "Waiting for GPS..."

I have followed the troubleshooting steps in the orginal post, including running "GPSTEST" which shows an erroe message "Failed To Initialize GPSSec".

Can anyone offer any additional suggestions?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ad720:
I have reflashed to Verizon MR1 and went through the steps outlined here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix

I still can't connect to any GPS satelites in Google Maps or Live Search.

Can anyone recommend the next step?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ad720:
Sorry to keep posting but things keep changing. I added VZ NAV to my account and downloaded the software, which works perfectly. Now I am able to lock to satellites in google maps and live search instantly.

Can I take VZ NAV off my acoount and expect things to still work? I would check by doing it but I want to avoid the +9.99, -9.99 stuff on my bill if I can.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Zenoran:
Just decided to flash MR1 and give this patch a go.. works exactly as it says here and google maps works fine... however, I'm unable to get other gps apps working like iGo which uses direct com port for gps... the funny thing is it says it sees a gps device on the normal com ports but the coordinates jump all over the place.

I'm not sure if this was addressed in previous posts but there are too many to go through... is there a way to get apps that directly access the com port to work with this patch/fix or are simple apps like google maps the only ones that will work?

Thanks ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 10Gauge:
Would like to say thanks, this is much much appreciated.

I just installed the app., checked gps settings, changed

Live search setting to "GPS Intermediate Driver", and it worked

first try.

Thanks ever so much :)

:cool:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bchi49:
it works great! Thanks! Just need to enable routing to regular COM ports then it works for all GPS apps.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] beandogger:
Not working

I followed instructions posted here. I have RD1 update (ROM 3.57.605.1) and radio ver 3.37.75 with PRI 2.03_002. I get no luck in google maps and the gps test app that was posted says "waiting to acquire gps fix". Any suggestions would be appreciated.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bchi49:
I use the instructions here for MR1: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix

it works fine, I didn't have to copy the .dll to google map or any third party apps. If I do, then it won't work...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deboy_001:
franson gps gate 2.6 is your solution. Read the settings on page 28/29 of this thread.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 10Gauge:
Google Navigator

Will this work as well?

I am having trouble getting it to.

I have g nav gps set to using system gps setting.

no joy.

i copied the gpsapix.dll file into the navigator folder, and restarted,

still no joy. think I read to do that somewhere.

Create a shortcut? I am clueless there.

TIA

:cool:

update: didn't give it enough time. locked on 7 sats atm.

thanks again for the work and great app.

much much appreciated
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bchi49:
franson gpsgate 2.6 works for me.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Well....after having been using the agps for a couple of months now with no problems, all of a sudden yesterday it simply stops working. Absolutely no reason for it to do so, but Live Search, Google Maps, and Amaze all cannot locate any satellites.

I wonder if the files loaded from this patch become corrupted over time.

Devin
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Also, when trying to install the uninstaller cab, it won't install on my device, saying the installation was unsuccessful.

Devin
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Well, FYI rerunning the Install cab worked like a charm.

I just did the install cab, let it soft reset, and am getting signals again on Live Search and Google Maps even inside a building.

So yes, it looks like over time the files simply become corrupt and need to be reinstalled.

No biggie...I will just keep the cab file handy from now on.

Devin
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
No GPS info on VX6800

I am pretty computer savy but I just got my VX6800 last week from Verizon but I see it's pretty much like a computer, so I figured this wouldn’t be to much trouble.

I upgraded my phone to MR1 (Windows Mobile 6.1).

I followed the instructions on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix and I installed the items to my phone and not to my storage card.

I installed Google Maps and MS Live Maps both to my phone (not to my storage card).

Neither program will get a GPS fix.

I verified my GPS settings as showed in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix

MS Live is set to "GPS Intermediate Driver" and Google Maps is set to "Managed by Windows"

I've downloaded VZ Navigator but I have not subscribe to it (so I can't run it without getting an error).

I then downloaded the gpstest and if I run it after a soft reboot I get a Long and Lat, everything else is zero. I tried moving (walked home from work) and nothing changed. If I quit the program and re run it, it doesn’t get any information. I need to soft reboot before it will show me anything

I also have the GPS Viewer program (forgot where I downloaded it), I can Open GPS and I see messages but no data, When I click on GPS Status it doesn’t show me any information.

In my registry, EnableAGPS is set to 1 and GPSMode is set to 2.

Any ideas?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Is your phone setting set to LOCATION ON?

Devin
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
Yes, as I said I verified my GPS settings as showed in http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...VerizonAGPSFix.

I tried it again a bit ago and google maps worked. I then tried MS live and I got a fix on my location and it worked. I then tried directions but it wouldn't get another fix. I soft reboot and tried it again and it didn't work. So I know it works, it worked for a few minutes.

Also on my old phone I occasionally used VZ Navigator and had no problems. So it's not like I am in an area without a good single.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Well that's bizarre that it would work a little and then not at all. Other than a software conflict, I am stumped.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Skywing:
To clear up some confusion and misinformation happening about here:

The SUPL AGPS registry settings are not used when you are using GPSSrv. Instead, GPSSrv will programmatically set the GPS operational mode based on its registry configuration (described in the first post), or the hardcoded defaults.

The default GPSSrv GPS operational mode is MS-Based (2), wherein ephemeris data is acquired from the network and used to speed a conventional GPS lock.

Setting the mode to MS-Assisted (1) will ask the network to perform triangulation every time a fix is requested. This will hit the data link every second with GPSSrv (with the default fix interval), and it will return significantly less accurate data than MS-Based mode. However, MS-Assisted mode will immediately return data even if you're indoors and can't see three or more satellites.

In general, the default should work fine unless you really need to get a coarse position fix somewhere where you've got a cell signal but no GPS visibility.

A perhaps better general-use strategy would be to make the first request in MS-Assisted mode, and then switch over to MS-Based afterwards, to fine-tune position and return real-time accurate updates. This automatic switching is not implemented in the current release of GPSSrv.

In general, however, the basic rule of thumb is:

- If you are trying to get a quick, coarse-grained fix (e.g. for running a search for nearby POIs), then MS-Assisted is generally preferred. Here, you don't want to wait a few seconds for satellite lock (or fail to operate if the user is indoors), and you don't really need accuracy down to meters or less.

- If you are trying to get a steady stream of high precision fixes (e.g. for navigation purposes), then you need to use MS-Based mode, as MS-Assisted mode is much less accurate (and much more expensive in terms of requiring network communication for every fix, with the corresponding battery life hit).

If you have clear line of sight to the sky, then MS-Based mode is likely to provide a fine-grained fix almost as quickly as MS-Assisted mode.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Eponymous069:
Radio Update fixed lockups for me.

So I originally had issues with my GPS locking up. It would get one reading correctly, then was unable to locate any satellites.

I then upgraded my radio to 3.42.50 and it gets a lock almost immediately and updates very fast.

Verizon XV6800

MR1 WM6.1 Verizon Stock Rom

Updates:

Radio: 3.42.50

Valhalla server

No other mods.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
I have:

ROM Version 3.57.605.1

Rom date: 7/21/08

Radio Version: 3.37.75

Where do I get the latest radio version? I thought it would have been a part of the MR1 update.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
I changed the mode to MS-Assisted (1) and I am quickly getting locks. They seem accurate as I am sitting in my office and it's giving me a precise location. I am curious about updating my Radio ROM. I thought I was on the latest version when I updated to MR1. Thanks again for your help.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thetaz01:
Question about MR1 release

Ok, im a noob to this and im trying to keep up with everything..

Currently i am running a DCD ROM version i belelive on my phone..

Heres the info from my phone.

Windows Mobile 6.1

CE OS 5.2.19716 Build 19716.1.0.0 dcd

ROM version dcd 2.1.0

ROM Date 12/05/07

Radio Version 3.27.00

OK heres what im wondering, First of all, i was thinking about applying the Verizon MR1 update, and then i saw i can add the patch from this thread and get my GPS working, but my question is, does the MR1 release still do the chat style text messages, and MOST importatnly, does it still have the Intenet sharing application which works awsome to teather my phone.

Also, AGAIN im a noob, i do like to every so often wipe my fone and start from scratch when it starts to act weird..

so since i have the DCD rom verzion HOW do i go about doing that, and make sure i dont brick my fone?! LOL

thanks

Fred
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
I just upgraded my new vX6800 to MR1 on Sunday and the text messaging is different from the previous version, I like this better. This is the threaded style messaging (like an AOL chat). I also like when I go into my messages I see one message from each person that has text me, which is the latest message. Then when I select it I see the history. I haven't figured out a way to automatically delete old messages and I am still looking for a good obnoxious reminder tool that will keep reminding me if I have unread messages.

I will also say that upgrading to MR1 was farily easy, but you do loose all of your settings on the phone. Good thing I have a storage card that has all my music, the programs that I installed, etc...

I'm not sure what this is, I don't think it's something I learned about yet. Do you mean connecting your phone to a PC and using your phone as a modem?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thetaz01:
So ur saying the MR1 release FROM verizon DOES do the CHAT style Text messaging?

And yes thats what im referring to, the Internet Sharing program allows you to VERY EAISLY teather your phone to a laptop and share the connection as a network connection on your laptop. THE OLD way you had to set it up as a dial up connection and it was very convoluted..

To check and see if your version has this.. Click your Start menu, click programs, and scroll down you should see an icon that says "internet sharing"

if it has it on the programs list then it has the abiliity to do it..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
Yes, it has an option to do the Chat style text messaging, it's the default actually.

I don't see "internet sharing" on my phone but it's mentioned in my phone. So I don't know if it's an option that would have to be enabled before it shows up. Sorry I don't know more about it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mdhaliwal:
Hey I would like to try this but I'm new to the whole radio/rom upgrade thing. I have already upgraded to MR1 but I can't seem to find the instructions on how to upgrade the radio in the wiki. Can someone please help me out. I have downloaded the radio version and a .nbh file I think. I guessing I need some kind of kitchen? I would really appreciate any help, Thanks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Eponymous069:
So here's the whole enchilada for a stock Verizon XV6800 phone.

Notes:

1) If you need to go to the MR1 version of the rom from verizon, remember, this will erase all data on the phone, but not storage cards.

2) You'll need to have ActiveSync recognize the phone on your computer before running the rom updates.

1) Make sure you have the stock MR1 Rom on your phone. Official Verizon Rom, from Verizon, Found here:

http://pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=89&cid=1&mid=287&carrier=Verizon/Wireless

Run the update and allow the initial phone programming from verizon following the Rom update. Set up your phone as needed so it's functional again. Since the rom is officially from Verizon, it will drop you right back on their network, so phone, data, etc should be working normally now.

2) Download and install the Valhalla GPS server found here.

http://www.cinconet.org/gpsfix/Valhalla%20Legends%20GPSServer.cab and let the phone restart.

3) Go to Start -> Settings, and select Phone app in the Personal tab. Select the Services tab at the bottom. Highlight the location setting and click Get Settings. Ensure that LOCATION ON is selected.

4) Go to Start -> Settings, select the External GPS app in the System tab. Ensure that GPS program port is set to COM4 in the Programs tab. Also ensure the GPS hardware port is set to: none, and Baud rate is set to 4800 in the Hardware tab.

5) Download the 3.42.50 radio here:

http://lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/titan/radios/Titan%20Radio%20ROM%203.42.50.rar

Take an SD micro card 2GB or less formatted to FAT32 and put the radio rom on the ROOT directory of the SD card. The downloaded file above is an archive, so be sure to unrar the rom, it should be named: TITAIMG.nbh

Now put the phone in bootloader mode: Hold Power & Camera buttons down and stick the stylus into the reset hole on the bottom of the phone near the SD-Micro slot at the same time. Follow the instructions on your phone you'll get a grey screen asking you to press the power button to load the flash rom if you have done it right. Flash to the 3.42.50 Radio Rom. Hit the reset alone now to reboot.

6) Download the GPS test app here:

http://www.nynaeve.net/Skywing/xv6800gps/gpstest.zip

Unzip and run to test your GPS functionality.

If all is good, you should see GPS data. Now install your third party apps, such as google maps, MS Live maps, and enjoy.

This is all compiled from the hard work of others, so thanks to everyone for all your input. :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] mdhaliwal:
Thanks! I guess I'll have to get a 2gb sd card all I got is a 4gb. I'll have to give it a shot. Oh by the way I have it working on mine again :D. So I probably won't try this for a while. Apparently all you have to do is recopy the files to the program folder. I also have GPSGate 2.6 and OCN8 navigation program works wonderful.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Eponymous069:
You know what you can try. Use your PC, make two partitions on the SD card, the first partition Fat32 under 2GB and the other the remainder, and put the radio flash on the first partition.

If the phone bios behaves as a standard bios will on a computer, it will look at the first partition initially, so you might be able to flash that way, and then windows mobile should still see both volumes when the phone is on.

Let us know..

It's nice to leave the radio rom on the card, as it appears something does go corrupt from time to time, all it takes is 1 minute to reflash the radio, and re-install the GPS server cab and everything goes back to normal.

It's Almost as if verizon is wiping the gps functionality or similar, like the way the DTV would wipe the hacked programmed cards through the satellite on a regular basis.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] crcucb:
I have an 8 GB Card. Will it definitely not work with this size of a card or should I parttion it?

Also will this flash just update the radio? I don't want to updage everything on my phone again and have to reload (as I had to do with I upgraded to MR1).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
The card must be 2gb or less, no ifs ands or buts. Without the flash from the card then it will hard reset your phone. If you get a 2gb card and flash from the bootloader screen it does not hard reset your phone.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Eponymous069:
When Flashing the radio, or installing the GPS server software, neither will harm the content on the phone.