yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
Couldn't someone find out if they wanted to anyway?

1) Install base ROM (AT&T release) - scan registry and file system

2) Install NATF ROM - scan registry and file system

3) Compare

There are a few tools that easily do this.

I guess my point is, I'm not going to do it but others could. I'd love to see an upgrade so I did not need to completely reload my phone and all the tweaks I have done to my contacts, ringtones, etc. I'm sure others are in the same situation as I am. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
And by the time you do all this, you cold have installed the new version and setup your phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Aura of Mystery is a good thing . . .

Here's to mystery and magic!

(Allow the chef to maintain something that is truly unique and special to his creation, or reverse-engineer it yourself)

(Also, I upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 simply by flashing it, then running Restore with Spb Backup v2.01 - the program didn't even consider it a new ROM, just proceeded with normal restore - it restored everything perfectly! Voila!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Could you put link to the post with Spb Backup v2.01. That might help a LOT of people. I'm going to go search for it.

Gary
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Well of course it's not freeware, but you can download it from Spbsoftwarehouse here, and try it before buying, think it's 15 days trial ($24.95 to purchase).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
How can you be POSITIVE any reg tweaks that NATF put in 2.2 and were not in 2.1 did not get over written with the restore?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SH4YD33:
They were overwritten.

NATF.. my guess would be..... Caches? file system filter?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
Exactly my point... if we had a cab from NAFT we could keep all our apps and settings and not worry about reinstalling/reloading/reconfig'ing

gary, did you even think about your statement before you made it?... installing a single upgrade CAB to go from 2.1 to 2.2 (or whatever versions come next) will take seconds... not ~2 hrs to re-do all the settings and install all the apps that many people use. Maybe you don't... so maybe you have no clue what it takes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan78:
natf,

Can you add Lafayette, IN or West Lafayette, IN to the custom cities in htc home. I think the Lafayette that is included is in LA.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Yes, I thought about my statement before I made it.

You stated:

That's when I wrote:

Thanks for playing. Next time, pay more attention.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
I am not 100% positive.

But you

can

specify "don't overwrite existing files" when you do the restore.

I wanted to start using it right away, so I did the Spb Backup Restore. I will probably, over the weekend, do a hard reset and a careful one by one install of all my desired apps, so everything is fresh, and I am

sure

that no new good things are disturbed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
I've been following your roms since the beginning and I finally got around to flashing v2.2 today.

Very clean, very fast. I like it a lot.

2 questions:

1. I know some people suggest flashing a "shipped" rom when you have unexplained issues because a lot of times, that is the only thing that fixes certain issues. Would flashing this rom be considered flashing a shipped rom since it's almost like the ATT 6.1 rom? I'm wondering because I've been having MMS issues recently and that's the next thing I'm going to try.

2. How do you disable the "message sent" notification? I'm sure it's here somewhere but I'm having a brain fart right now. I checked in the Sounds and Notifications section and I didn't see an option for sent text message.

Great work Todd and I know you said you haven't had a chance to mess around with Manilla yet, but you really should. It's great when it's working correctly and if you add Manilla to this rom, I'll be using it for a LOOONNGGG time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aadadams:
1. That will likely go away by flashing the new NATF ROM.

2. You need to install Kaiser Tweak or Schap's Advanced Configuration, and there is a setting to disable the message sent notifications.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eknutson:
NaTF -

Awesome ROM, I love it and think i've found myself a home for a while.

I tried upgrading HomeScreen PlusPlus to build 341 (it supports AppToDate), but the install fails. Sorry for the n00bishness here, but I think, that's because it's baked in? I also seem to recall that there's a way to bake it in AND make it upgradeable (support AppToDate).

Will this be part of the final release?

Thanks!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
Thanks man. I just had something weird happen. I did a soft reset and my device froze at the unlock screen when it rebooted. I tried soft resetting a few more times and I couldn't get past the unlock screen. I think I know why this may have happened though. My UC didn't finish properly so something was probably conflicting or something. I just did a hard reset and I popped out my memory card so UC won't run.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aadadams:
I don't use UC, so I can't begin to guess on that issue. I'm a Sashimi user.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wwwes:
Multiple Data Sessions not working for me

I just loaded the (AT&T Base + HTC Home - v2.2 Beta - direct link thanks to garyfunk) and BBC4.0.0.100. BBC is working, but multiple data sessions are not. I had L26V9 prior to this, and it was working with the same BBC version.

If I look at agpsnvsetting, it is 0x05 as it should be. Am I missing something? does anyone else have this working?

Otherwise, this is a snappy rom. I was happy to see you had hacked it with multiple data sessions. Hopefully I just did something dumb.

Thanks for your hard work.

edit-

hard reset and reloaded twice, still doesn't work....bummer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
I'm working on a Manilla version right now. Tomorrow's going to be busy for me, but Sunday is pretty open (until the Eagles game), so I should be able to do some in-depth coding/testing then.

HomeScreen PlusPlus is being installed from CAB during Initial Customization; it's not actually baked-in.

Try uninstalling the current version prior to loading the new one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aadadams:
On a lighter note, I thought you guys had the Cowboys... But, 2 out of 3 ain't bad... (Get it)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drunkbastard:
Idiot question...

(Never mind... answered my own idiot questions...)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
I found Manilla to be quite buggy and a bit slugish overall installing it over your ROM using the cabs in the Development forum. YET it is a beautiful UI and would love for it to be included as long as it works properly. Maybe it would work better being cooked in, I don't know. I can't believe all these people at XDA have developed\hacked all of this stuff and keep me busy playing with my phone.

Back on topic. This ROM is great because it's fast and clean, I love it for that fact. Keep up the good work NATF.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
I don't use BBC myself, so I could not test and verify this. It's weird that it doesn't work since I followed the process exactly as outlined in GSLEON3's thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
Well, after 2 hard resets I finally figured out what kept freezing up my Tilt.

I was adding my typical programs and one of the was the HTC Home Customizer and I also added the HTC Home Weather.dll file.

Bad move. I guess since that's already cooked in (or something similar) my device locked up. So if you have that cab, don't run it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stesul411:
Great ROM, been running 2.0 for a full week with no problems. Thanks for all of your hard work.

Oh, by the way,

GO STEELERS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Is it the hthhome.dll file from my thread? If so can you pull the one from the rom, and i'll patch that version for people who want custom weather, but are having issues with my other dll. If you can't grab that file, then i suppose i could always flash the rom and pull it out lol.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eknutson:
*smacks head* not sure what I was trying to execute for HomeScreen PlusPlus, but the cab didn't work with or without the initial installed.

I installed the current (released today) and all is well :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
Thanks man.

My MMS messages are working again and those annoying message sent notifications are gone. I installed the latest version of Advanced Config from here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
If you can tell me where it is, I'll try to get it. The cab I was installing was HTCHomeWeatherDLL.cab and I think it was from your thread.

If I change the home city in Schap's Advanced Config, will that update my weather correctly? For some reason, I think I tried that a while back and it didn't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
um... no. actually an automated scan and compare... all using apps that do all the work would take about 10-15 mins... it takes at least an hour, or 2, to install all the apps and re-tweak all the settings.

the point is... NATF could release a CAB for upgrades and no reloads are necessary. very sorry you missed the point.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Look in my signature, it'll point you to my thread. It doesn't have the HTCHomeWeatherDLL.cab, so it was not from me that you got that. So i'm not sure about that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] abedit:
BBC

I can't get blackberry and mediaNet up and running at the same time either. Really need them both. NATF2.2 ATT Base ROM.

Nice clean ROM otherwise. Thanks for your work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wwwes:
I loaded the htc version and dual networking is working fine. I had similar problems with death v4. it appears that there is something special about the att load that keeps it from working.

so far so good. nice rom.

regards,

Wes
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aadadams:
Glad you are up and running. You seem to be a minor glitch away from perfection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Well, if you can do it in 15 minutes, go for it. I'm a little surpiesed you can install two roms, dump both then scan for the differences in 15 minutes. You must be a real wizard. But then agian, you should follow your own advice and make a cab with all your applications and tweeks and settings. Then you wouldn't have to spend the same two hours over and over with your phone. In fact, you must be so darn good, you can make a ROM better than anyone here. We should all bow to your greatness.

What a maron.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
Thanks man, actually everything is working perfectly now. Since the .dll file for the custom weather is cooked into the rom, all you have to do is install the HTC Home Customizer and add your city to the custom database.

Great rom Todd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
yes I'm a maron... that must be the opposite of moron, so thank you. I'm suggesting a method that is used my millions of IT professionals world-wide... they are "marons" too huh.

NATF,

please release an update CAB, it will save a ton of time vs reloading everytime we want to test your changes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
No they aren't. But thank you for proving my point, at least in your case.

Zoom, right over his tiny little mind.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Geez, could you just get over it?

I don't know of

any

chef that would accommodate your "feed me" request.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
not a feed me request... updating ROM is a PITA if you do much customization and UC bloz since it is still a ton of work just to set that up (contact ringtones, specific app customizations, etc).

A simple CAB file that updates existing version is not too much to ask for AND would help the users test the changes quicker and with less pain.

I guess everyone just reloads their entire computer OS (Linux, Windows, BSD, UNIX, etc) everytime an update comes out... or do they just install a patch? :rolleyes:

why is this soooo much to ask for?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
It's pretty clear LivinOne has no clue of the work required to do what he asks. It also clear he's clueless by his comment, "I'm suggesting a method that is used my millions of IT professionals world-wide."

He says it can be done in 15 minutes, yet he doesn't want to do it himself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gridpool:
I will do it for him. That way, when I don't deliver, he can direct all further requests out of this thread. I recommend everyone cook their own roms (or try). Then you will appreciate what you get here in this forum.

;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] riot1031:
I'm lovin this rom but I have one problem..smart dialing options don't work. When I click to open them they just never open. Anyone else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddweb:
Guys, I am using this ROM along with below manila2d+touchflo stuff.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398173&highlight=kaiser

Works great!!! I also had to use DiamondQVGA.tsk theme, to make it all look seamless.

Excellant combination! works wonderfully.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shazzy84:
keyboard light

does anyone know how to turn the keyboard light on? I have a at&t tilt running this rom but the keyboard light doesnt go on all the time.

for instance i can start typing a sentence (like these sentences now that im doing with my tilt) and for the first few sentences the light doesnt come on. after a while it will go on. any help? thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] LivinOne:
Yes I'm clueless... you know me so well. I won't bother you with my credentials since you'd dismiss them too. It is sooo hard to compare registry & files... omg, what was I thinking. Guess when I did it back in 1997 (and every year since) it was MAGIC!

I don't care what you think, the question was to NATF but for some reason you felt obligated to, or have nothing better to do, then make a useless comment and put in your negative 2 cents.

buzz off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
2.2 is now V2 Final. V3 Manilla is uploaded, and will be up shortly. The OS build has not changed yet, I'm having issues with getting the kitchen to accept the latest build released by DK.

-On A Side Note-

Can we please stop any and all bickering over the small stuff? I don't want the thread getting watered down with heated exchanges, and people getting pissed at each other over something so minor.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Are you going to start a new thread with V3?

And here is a direct link.

http://fsoft.com/natf/NATF_V3_ATT_Manilla.rar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
First few posts updated, v3 Manilla is live! ...and yes, that is a pic of one of my 3 cats...

For the moment, I am going to reuse this thread because other than Manilla, there are no major changes (yet) between v2 and v3.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
This occurs in almost every ROM. Frustrating, ain't it?

I think if it's an HTC ROM and the HTC video dialer is in place, that option is accessible, if I remember correctly. Every other time I've tried to access it, it's been a dead zone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] CIPuyleart:
:D

I must be living under a rock - I've never seen "Manilla" before, but damn it looks nice. I'm going to have to give that a try in the coming days.

And I like what you've got queued up in your music player too...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Knumb:
great job on the rom NATF!! Gonna give it a whirl in a few....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
4Shared mirrors for Manilla ROMs:

NATF V3 ATT Manilla

NATF V3 HTC Manilla
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tankers:
When I attempt to download the AT&T base v2 final, I can only find ->

[Sept 16th - v2 Final]

AT&T Base - v2.1 Beta (Rapidshare)

HTC Base - v2.1 Beta (Rapidshare)

Only listing 2.1 beta. When clicked, the file that downloads is listed as 2.2 beta. Has nothing at all changed between 2.2 beta and v2 final? Downloading the 2.2 beta will be the final?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kwickone:
Yeah, noticed that too. I believe 2.2 was made the final due to lack of any major issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] goestoeleven:
If I have any gripe about the AT&T V2 ROMs, this is it, and it has a resolution:

The answer to this is either to leave the HTC SmartDialer in the AT&T ROMs (this is a Cooking issue. Currently it's removed), or manually install it on top of the ROMs.

You can find it by searching for JUVS HTC Smart Dialing. This dialer will need to be skinned (it still has gap for VideoCall button), and there are many great choices out there. I'm currently using PoorlyDuck's Diamond phone skin. Also, feel free to look at ZombieNexus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ptgptg:
manilla programs tab

This may be really stupid, but I can't seem to add programs to the program tab other than those populated in the list when you are adding programs. I have searched this thread, hyperdragon's thread and the manilla thread. Maybe I missed it, but any help is appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
v2.2 Beta did become v2 Final.

I have since corrected the names listed in the download section, but the filenames will continue to show 2.2 since I do not plan on renaming/reuploading them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fhaines:
adding programs

The icon/shortcut you are trying to add has to reside in the startmenu under programs in order to be on the list available to add. I just copy and pasted icons into the folder using activesync.

fhaines
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
What Manila version is included with the ROM?

WHats next in the plans NATF?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] godashram:
A v3 loaded with manilla would be awesome...

in the Manilla 2d thread, there is a link for a hacked exe that allows custom cities

found it

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2637920&postcount=50

i've used it with v2 with 0 issues
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] phantomy2g:
wut dialer is in ur v3 manilla NATF
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Thanks for the link. I'll give it a go shortly. I am running a loaded build of Manilla now, and even with all the crap added in, it still responds very fast.

I left the dialers unchanged in both builds. Opinions vary greatly with regards to dialers, so I left it for the user to decide.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mocky:
I'm not sure if it has something to do with the ROM, but my Messaging function looks dead. I can't start Pocket Outlook, SMS, etc with neither hardware button (with envelope) nor with software link Messaging.lnk

The same time Voice Command error message starts popping up after every reboot.

Any help or advise will be highly appreciated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tamkhanh:
definitely worth a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Wow, V3 is quite a change. So far it is running very well. Some of the changes take a while to get used to but I think I really like this one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Please specify which ROM version you are running, and your installed applications, so we can assist. However, I'm certain that your issue is not related to the ROM since you are the first to report it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sinclac:
Same here if i click the envelope it shows no email accounts, but when i get an e-mail from my exchange server i get the popup and can got to it.

V-3 Manilla

Also noticed Phonealarm wont start and run with windows.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mocky:
RESOLVED! :) The problem was caused by old Inbox folder on Storage Card for Messaging storage. Deleted it and Messaging is back to normal.

Natf, sorry about doubts of quality of your ROM! Your ROM is excelent! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] maiahsdad:
Notifications

Hello everyone, I can't seem to disable the TEXT MESSAGING (SENT) notification. For INCOMING text messages, I can disable those in Settings/Notifications. In my previous (Dutty's) ROM, I seemed to be able to disable that sound as well.

I'm using V3 Manilla.

If I'm missing something, please let me know. I leave my volume ON so that I can hear notifications via the bluetooth. But when I SEND a message, the DEVICE notifies me both in sound and with a message on the screen. I need for that to stop.

Thanks for any help.

Also, This ROM ROCKS!

Thanks NATF!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TheWebMachine:
Manilla in landscape a no-go

Love the v3 Manilla. However, I have encountered an issue. Manilla doesn't do landscape?

When I side my tilt open, Manilla doesn't change orientations...making it nearly useless and quite annoying.

Is there a fix, update, or anything else for this? I love the interface, but I use my keyboard often and having to close to use the interface between tasks is too counterproductive for my liking. :(

Otherwise, great work NATF! *cheers*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
Try taking out your SD card and see if your messaging function comes back, it happened to me with an earlier NATF ROM, my attachments folder on my storage card got corrupted. I ended up having to reformat the card, after that all was well, however I haven't stored attachments on my sd card since.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hjlow:
manilla mirrors

at usual place:

http://kaiserroms.blogspot.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shutter13:
Manila 2d does not support landscape.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sinclac:
Well i hace part of my problem figured out, Manilla does not see my outlook exchange account but if i add an email accout like gmail it will see that account.

If i receive an email on myexchange account it will show the number of messages i have.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] -haze-:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2666545&postcount=273

Darn you NATF, I just had everything the way I wanted it and you go and release a Manilla rom. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] godashram:
now that's something to look forward to!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RALPH-E:
thanks again for the great work, but i have a question. your NATF V1 was the first rom i had the courage to install, but now you have released some new stuff and i want to try. The thing im not sure of is installing a custom rom when one is already installed. what are the actual steps or do i repeat the process as if it was a all new install?