yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ceber:
answer to your question

I would much rather use a custom rom, the install process of the mr1 is very simple. I have bricked a phone previously trying to put in a custom one, the appeal to use a custom is great, wish it was as simple to install
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Darkrealms:
LoL, no worries. For me and some others I know the chances of being down or having major problems are too much of a concern. This being one of my primary forms of communication for work (IT Admin).

I mod other things (primarily my computers and trucks). Also between work and kids there is only so much time for trouble shooting.

BTW Thanks Skywing and gc14 for all your great work!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
Hmm...well to each his own...though I should probably say, I've had MORE down time and MORE major problems when screwing with MR1 than I've ever had with a custom. :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] iamchrismoran:
I have gone through three different (at least) version of instructions to get the GPS working on mine. None has gotten me any closer from what I can tell. I even had someone walk me through each step and he was confused why it wasn't working. I'm not tempted to go back and do the MR1 route, as I just want it to work. Right now I'm running a nice custom rom that has way more stuff in it than I need or want, and still not GPS.

It's infuriating to see how many people seem to just be able to float through the instructions and have a working system and then some of us flounder like morons where something us just wrong and we can't figure it out.

I just want something working at this point, frankly. I got the phone because I could do wifi and activate GPS via these hacks. Wifi generally works great when it works at all and GPS is a no show so far... after easily 20-30 hours of flashing, resetting and reading. It's gotten to the point where I wonder if my phone's GPS hardware just doesn't function correctly, but I never see anyone talk about that possiblity, so I assume that's not it - just paranoia.

So, for me, if I go back to a MR1, it'll be because I'm fed up with not having the rest work. :( I'm very unhappy at this point.

It's also confusing to find definitive instructions. Cross-references between xda and ppcg only lead to more confusion. Man, if only I could find a web utility that was set up to ask: "OK, you have a xv6800 right?" Yes.

"What service provider will you be using?" Verizon (which will determine whether carrier fixes need to be done after whatever path is taken).

"Do you want to make sure it never/requests data plan dials?"

"Do you have preferences in other software features (a checklist)?"

And out spits a literal step by step set of instructions with direct links to each step's cab, or exe or whatever other file is involved.

I haven't bothered to activate my phone yet as I want it doing what I want before I set it to do what I consider a secondary purpose - being a phone :), that I do not need a data plan for.

:)

One can dream.

These tutorials are generally very well written, but when they don't provide the same positive outcome for other with the same apparent phones, then it's just making some of us likely do stupid things or make bad choices just to get a nugget of the greatness other have.

Maybe MR1 is welfare for tired xv6800 owners? ;)

thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for whoever puts together that form for insta-flashing results.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Darkrealms:
Different people, different experiences, different levels of experience with the equipment. It all adds up : )

If it was just my personal phone I would have tried at least a few of the custom roms months after I got my first one.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shadyj7:
you need to use GPS GATE 2.6 . AND put

input on WM gps

output on Virtual Com2 / (all NMEA)

and then go to tomtoms show gps status

configure to (other NMEA gps receiver)

gps band to (4800)

and then click on (Franson COM 2)

and all works . the only funny thing is is that it doesnt show a gps sat signal. but dont worry it still works great. Im guessing because its going thru a virtual port. Hope this helps any Tom tom fans.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Krusty123:
GPS Cab on XV6800

Hey guys, just wanted to say thank you for puttin this together..

I too waited for the official update from Verizon before tinkering with the GPS. After flashing the new ROM, I loaded the cab and bingo!! Google maps works great, VZNav gives some info but no turn by turn, no biggie! I'm very happy using the google maps program! Thanx again!!!:)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] elisherer:
My response is kinda the same. I'm afraid of bricking the box. This is my 4th xv6800 since February. The first was a very slow phone, so VZW replaced it. The second was a bad screen, VZW replaced it. This one (which is the 3rd replacement, 4th phone) is becuse a pin got bent in the mini-USB port.

So basically, if there was a "just install this" Custom ROM, I'd be all over it. But I'm really afraid of messing it up and having VZW say "sorry... you messed with it, so that's be $400 for a new one.

I've looked at the "this is how you do it" posts, but they all have a step or two that say, "Then you 'might' want this or that." Just give me the solution (which you did, thanks very much!) and I'll be there! (Might even paya couple of bucks for it too
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] chastom2:
Thanks

I too have the MR1 firmware and very much appreciate all of your work. I am very excited to FINALLY have working GPS on my xv6800. I went with the MR1 firmware because it kept me from having to deal with VZW support as much and it added EVDO RevA and it fixed some of the issues I was having with Win Mobile 6. I suppose some of the custom firmware out there does the same, but for me this was the simplest and easiest. Again, thank you very much.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] iamchrismoran:
Can anyone explain why this wouldn't work for only some people??

I just tried it... reflashed back to stock then up to MR1 to do this fix and I get nothing. I see intelligent people posting all over who cannot get this damn phone to open up a working GPS even with great tuts created.... what's up with that??
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ceber:
I don't see

you need to use GPS GATE 2.6 . AND put

input on WM gps

output on Virtual Com2 / (all NMEA)

and then go to tomtoms show gps status

configure to (other NMEA gps receiver)

gps band to (4800)

and then click on (Franson COM 2)

and all works . the only funny thing is is that it doesnt show a gps sat signal. but dont worry it still works great. Im guessing because its going thru a virtual port. Hope this helps any Tom tom fans.

WM gps on the input screen, everything else is there
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] uroppmd:
hello for those of you that use igudane 4... i did all of the above and also many hard reset and different combo.. i can get gmap to work no problem but when i use iguidance it will show sat for a little but the number is all over the place one moment in LA then later some where in MI then some where else. ( i am in NYC) then it will stop and i have to restart gmap again to see the sat... i try the cab file try the manual method. try holy water on my phone.. nothing will make iguidance 4 get a fix. my friend has the sprint phone and he has iguidance 4 working fine on the stock rom. any one has any idea ??? thx in advance
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ceber:
update again

found this input on WM gps

but output does not have that exact choice.

blue light is coming on the phone, which leads me to believe something is happening, but google and tomtom still say no signal or gps

currently says error opening WM GPS
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] themirthfulswami:
Works like a charm with the MR1 update. I just installed the CAB file and went outside to try out Google maps. Locked onto me in about 5-10 seconds and gave me directions to the pizza place down the street.

Hats off to you, Skywing. Fantastic work!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] uroppmd:
for those that try t use GPS on i guidance 4.... you need to have gps 2.6 ( the latest version and select WM gps in order for it to work.. i have an older version it DID NOT work i can confirm the setting work with i guidance 4 with the setting posted couple back with TT... god luck everyone and big thank you to all that make it happen... now i am having a good birthay finally.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shadyj7:
goto add Virtual Com Port/nmea press Add

and then choose com 2 then ok
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shadyj7:
O.K. here are GPSGATE settings you need to use GPS GATE 2.6 . AND put

input on WM gps

output on Virtual Com2 / (all NMEA) "goto add Virtual Com Port/nmea press Add "

and then choose com 2 then ok

and then go to tomtoms show gps status

configure to (other NMEA gps receiver)

gps band to (4800)

and then click on (Franson COM 2)

and all works . the only funny thing is is that it doesnt show a gps sat signal. but dont worry it still works great. Im guessing because its going thru a virtual port. Hope this helps any Tom tom fans.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ceber:
not there yet

on output tab,

check virtual com port/nmea, go to add, only gives me choices of com5,8,0

2 is not a choice?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ceber:
blue light flashing is good?

In input, have wm gps selected,

says no data coming in

109 error opening WM gps

thanks for the help in advance
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ceber:
I am a retard

blue light was the blue tooth I turned on by accident
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] shadyj7:
choose 8 and on tomtom pick franson com 8
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dashd:
Coordinates bounce (and bounce, and bounce)

So...I have installed the cab and things look to be working fine with Google and Live Search. When I try to use other apps like gpstuner v5 or iguidance (with gpsgate 2.6 and astrogpslauncher) my coordinates bounce around the world. I seem to have satellites locked in and the programs "find" my gps on the port that gpsgate is outputting to.

Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thundaar2000:
I can't get it to work at all so I figured I would try a different one of the cab files.

I went to remove the program with remove programs under settings.

It won't remove it.

I tried to re-install and it now says unsuccesfull installation.

Can't remove or install

Any Ideas??
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] abactech:
Google Maps not working.

I have followed all the steps to a "T". I am getting an error when starting Google Maps that states "Network Unavailable". I have data connection blocked as I am on a pay as you go data plan and don't want a high unexpected cellular bill. Now I have read through all 30 pages of this topic and thought that a data connection was not necessary to use the GPS function. I thought I could use the GPS in a standalone state and still acquire my position by using satellites only. I installed M1 update, installed and ran VZ Navigator, installed the cab file from post #113. Reset the phone and got results from the gpstest.exe program. I then installed and ran Google Maps which then asked me about running all those .dll files to which I said yes. After that Google Maps tries to use my data connection and bombs out. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dm2150:
GPS Patch

I currently use a GPS receiver via Bluetooth with my XV6800. Am I correct in my assumption that your patch would not be a benefit to me as my Bluetooth GPS reveiver would generally be more accurate than the celluar GPS?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] abactech:
Data Connection apparently needed.

Well I solved my issue by adding the unlimited data plan to my account. Once I had that I followed whopper68's instructions (page 23, post #229) and low and behold it works now. So I would presume that a data connection is definately needed for this to work. I was also informed by the CSR that I am eligible for a 20% discount on the $29.99 unlimited data plan. Woot. Thanks for the great work Skywind and GC14, you guys ROCK!!!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thn7530:
Lost in the woods

Guys,

I'm having the same problem that thundaar is having. I used the unistall cab created by gc but I get a message that not all files were deleted.

A little help would be appreciated so I can gps my way out of the woods! :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BK111968:
I had the same problem for the uninstall and wound up doing a hard-reset (which is a pita but it wiped the registry totally clean). I then re-installed the program and it worked fine.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] DirectorSD:
Uninstall Working or Not ?

Being sort of a chicken-sh--, I want to make sure I can uninstall this "patch" before I try it. From the posts above it looks a little "iffy". Any more updates? (BTW, tried the simple manual install - no joy).

UPDATE - OK, once I actually got outside (in the car) and tried running GoogleMaps, after about 10-15 seconds it had me pinpointed and tracking ! So at least in my case (XV6800, MR1 ROM), the basic manual install appears to work ! Cool...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deboy_001:
Anyone else?

I was one of the lucky ones with MR1 + skywing fix (Gc's cab) that had gps working perfectly. I hadn't tried to use it for a couple of days, but woke up this morning and um... no satellites, no locks. The only change I had made was adding opera mobile. Before I throw my remaining brain cells to trying to figure something out, I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Oh, I am trying this with windows live search and Garmin XT, both of which were working perfectly before. Thanks. And yes I have checked my settings (location on, gpsid, managed by windows etc...) and soft resetted many times.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jgkeegan:
That's exactly what happened to me this morning. Mine worked find for days. The only new thing I installed was SPB online. Today I can't get a fix with anything. So I started over with MR1 and I still can't get a fix. Hmmm. Everything worked, Live Search, Google Maps, GPSToday, etc. Now nothing, even with a clean start. Any thoughts?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
Hi all, this is my first post. First I want to say thanks to GC and skywing!

I also had it (GPS) working well last night. It was all very easy thanks to GC's tutorial. I also installed GC's opera mini package (thanks again!) and RealDice Texas Hold 'Em. However, even after intalling these other programs, I still used amaze last night.

But then this morning it wasn't working. I double-checked all the settings in windows. Yes, I tried a soft-reset. Then I thought maybe if I uninstalled and re-installed, it might start working again. So I got GC's uninstall cab from the wiki, but when I try to install in uninstall cab, it says that the install was not succesful. Remove programs also didn't work. I also tried manually deleting the files I thought I should delete, but truthfully, I'm not sure what exactly to delete since I installed using the cab. After deleting what I hoped were the right files, I tried reinstalling the GPS cab again, but still not working. Perhaps because it wasn't uninstalled right first?

Well, I'm not sure what else to try, but luckily, I do a nightly Sprite backup. So as soon as I have time (may not be til Saturday) I think I'm going to restore back to right before I installed the GPS cab and then try installing it all over again. I hope this will work!

If anyone has any ideas please let me know!

Thanks!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jgkeegan:
I'm following up my own post because I compulsively started over for the 3rd time today and, lo and behold, live search and google maps work again. That is: I reflashed MR1, loaded and started vz navigator and exited at the error message, then installed the valhalla server, rebooted, loaded google maps and live search and i was back with satelites!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
Hopefully, my Sprite restore will get me to a point that I can just reinstall and get it working again. I've done a lot to my phone, and I really don't want to flash all the way back to MR1.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deboy_001:
Ok, Now I feel a bit better that it didn't happen to only me. I didn't reflash MR1 yet. Actually I'm about to give it a shot with a custom rom first. The RAM on MR1 is getting frustrating.

Good that you got it working again with the reflash. I'll keep that in mind in case custom doesn't work for me. Thanks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
Restored from last night's Sprite backup, then reinstalled the cab. After a soft-reset, GPS is working again! Hopefully, it will stay working this time.

If anyone is still having trouble, and you do regular backups, you might try restoring to just before you installed the GPS cab and see if it works for you.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] DirectorSD:
Auto-Set for 911 vs Location ?

This may be a little off topic, but it would be really great if there was a way to have the initialization of a GPS-enabled program (e.g. Google Maps or Live Search) automatically trigger the switch from "911-only" to "Location" under the Phone Settings, and then switch it back when the GPS-enabled program is closed. This would alleviate the concern of battery drain with the "Location" setting always on. Just a little challenge for all you brilliant programmers / hackers who have developed this great little fix.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
Battery drain is not an issue, even with "Location On." Skywing's program shuts down the GPS chip about one minute after the GPS-enabled program is closed.

My amAze keeps crashing. Then after it crashes I have to change the GPS settings in Google Maps to get it working again. I'm not sure why this is.....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
Mine is not working again. Any ideas why this is working on and off, at least in my case?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jambrose:
It sounded like there was some Verizon network issues and maybe that is still the case. Once their network is running right it seems to work fine again.

Also check your aGPS mode value in the registry. Sounded like it should be set to 2.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
Thanks for the reply. I'm petrified to do anything involving the registry, but I installed using GC's cab, which means everything should be all set up for me in the registry, right?

Incidentally, it was working again as of about 2 hours ago :) Go figure!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jambrose:
No it might not be setup correctly as GC found a lot of new settings for aGPS that included aGPS Mode. Pretty easy to change registry settings though. Just use the free PHM regedit and search for the aGPS you will find a folder of settings just look for the SUPaGPSMode and make sure it is set to 2. I think it is more scarier to use QPST to add in the aGPS server info myself but hey worse case you flash it all again. :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] catpaws:
I suppose if I screw it up, I can always do another Sprite restore. Don't think I'd even have to reflash.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Maliceday:
So, everything was done step by step, and once in Google Maps, Track Location, I receive "Your GPS receiver does not appear to be responding"

Then tells me to make sure I have a receiver and so on... Whut am I doing wrong?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] segadc:
I tried Skywing's instructions on his first post and it works for me! Thanks Skywing!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] pcteamadmin:
Telenav Works

Thank you for all your hard work. I was extremely disappointed after upgrading my VX6800 to Mobile 6.1 that my Telenav no longer worked. I was about to put it back until I found this thread. After installing the cab file, no my Telenav works better than ever. Found it took a while to initialize before... now only takes seconds. Thank you, thank you, thank you! :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] sncboom2k:
xv6800 Timing Out Issue

I think I may be in the same boat as some other folks on here - no bueno. Here's my hard luck story.

I installed MR1 - I installed the cab patch for GPS enable - it works just fine with Live Search and Google Maps.

Install the Garmin XT Mobile and here's what happens. It works great for almost exactly 1 minute. Then it loses the internal GPS. Tried several of the "GPS enablers" - to no avail. It still just drops the internal GPS.

I checked the registry and EnableAGPS is on (1) - EnableGPSSmartMode is on (1) - GPSMode is on (2).

So I don't see an issue there. It only appears to have this issue with Garmin Mobile XT. I tried every "enabler" I can find in these forums and none have been able to keep the GPS connected to garmin for more then a minute.

If I swicth back and forth between Live Search and Garmin - Garmin will work again because Live is re-enabling the GPS.

If anyone can help - I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

Sncboom2k
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bchi49:
try Franson GpsGate, it works for TomTom navigator too.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] diableri:
I just wanted to say thanks! Installed the Vahalla cab using MR1 and google maps works great and is plenty for my needs. Your work is appreciated! =)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
Works great!

Thanks to the developers for this awesome procedure!

To answer one of the dev's queries, I refuse to do the custom ROM method of unlocking GPS because I read too many horror stories about people bricking their phones. I simply am too casual a user and need my phone too urgently for business to allow it to get bricked and then have to reload everything from scratch. So despite being comofrtable flashing the ROM (as I did for the 6.1 update), I refused to unlock GPS until the eventual automatic method was developed.

I used the manual method of installation in the original post at the top of this thread. Not quite sure why people even need to fuss with the cab when the manual installation is pathetically easy. But to each his own.

On my XV 6800 under 6.1 the agps works very nicely. I have so far used:

Windows Live Search: Works well. Connects in under 1 minute. Follows smoothly as I drive from work to home. Pin points me within 10 ft or so. In an office building, has some trouble, though gets to within about 50 ft of me.

Google Maps: I get between 6 and 8 sats. Works very well. Accuracy outdoors (or in car) of about 5 ft.

Mobile Altimeter: A freeware program. Works fine.

GeoTerrestrial GPS Today: Freeware, works fine. Picks up 6-7 sats. Have not yet tried the plugins.

Amaze: Freeware voice navigation program with heads up 3d mapping. Have just downloaded it and not yet tried it. It does pick up my gps position, so at least the program can utilize the agps. Will report back on how it performs navigationally using agps.

Overall, I am very very happy with agps and you guys have done the community an amazing service!

Kudos :)

Regards,

Devin
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Scott:
Because a cab is even easier. Think about it. Less steps to accomplish the same thing also makes it more efficient as well.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] devinc:
I understand, but given the many iterations of the cab that had to be gone through to get it right, and the fact that the cab still has to be modified to get it to work with VZNavigator, it still seems to me one is safer just doing the very simple manual.