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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
I am nstalling every new version with AppToDate - just to check that I set all correctly, so all shall work. First try to remove the xml file which is used by AppToDate (maybe it is corrupted) - go to the very top folder, then go "/Application Data/AppToDate" - there you shall see GpsCycleComputer.xml (as well as all xml for files regustered with AppToDate). Delete it, and re-install GpsCycle.

Also check that you can access the link for a current xml file (this one is checked by AppToDate, and compared with the one on your phone: http://andyzap.50webs.com/GpsCycleComputer.xml )
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Could you explain a bit more: do you mean to "record a waypoint", or to "follow a set of waypoints"?

You can load a "track-to-follow" (if you want "to follow"). To record, I think I can easily add recording of all "pause" button presses, so if you want to mark a spot, you can press and release the pause button quickly. Then I can save waypoints into e.g. KML file. I remember it was a suggestion to be able to input a text for a waypoint - but this is probably too complicated - this could be added after, e.g. on a PC.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Dtrieb:
I mean that i start the program and it shows on OSM were I am like googlemaps!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] silviontz:
I meant "record a waypoint", marking a waypoint along your route, lat./long. (like camping site, fresh water or hic sunt leones :p ) or following a certain waypoint without the adjacent track to it (my friend emails me the exact spot of his location and I make my way to that location).

When on a trip, with no acces to a pc, this option really saves you some time and effort, and also gives you the ability to choose your next destination - if i go north, I get to the waterfall, if i go west I get to the log cabin etc.

Also, editing the name of the waypoint would be a great option to add, but if it's too complicated, forget about it :)

The pause button press recording option would be a great thing to add though!

cheers!

s.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Let me try to give an answer - and you tell me if this is what you asking?

If you download "OSM tiles" for the location you are now, save it on your phone, and set the "jpeg maps location" in GpsCycle options to that folder (with OSM tiles) - then yes, on the maps screen of GpsCycle you will see your track plotted over the OSM maps. If you download enough tiles (I downloaded 20000 around the area I live, with 7 to 15 zoom level) - then this works very well.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Kaimane:
Hi Andy,

maybe this search results could help you to resolve the "download via http" problem.

There are some code examples which shows promise.

Greets!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] jasonkruys:
Ah that appears to be the problem, I cannot access the .xml on your site. I have also tried on this computer, and eventually get an HTTP500 internal server error.

Is this working OK for everyone else? I find it difficult to believe that this is specific to just me if both my mobile and my PC cannot access it...clearly some people can access it though! Um..anyone else having problems?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Kaimane:
Hi!

For me it works fine! No problems.

I attach the xml file to this post. You only have to rename the file from .txt to .xml.

Hope everything will work fine for you now.

Greets!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
I argee - this is very strange that you cannot access this file..- seems working fine for me (so far..) Maybe this site was blocked by a firewall, etc? Try to access http://www.50webs.com/ (this is the free-hosting site I registed the account), and http://andyzap.50webs.com/ (this is the site the file is on). Also you can try to "ping andyzap.50webs.com" - to see if you get any response from it

Unfortunatelly, you do need to access the site to use AppToDate - as it compares the version on the server (which I update as soon as I load a new one) with the one your have on your phone
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Thanks for your help - I also searched the web yesterday, and found a few examples, which after a bit of re-work now do what I wanted. So I will add the OSM live download in the next version.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
More track colour choices (due to OpenStreetMap)?

Since the introduction of v3.100, we can now download Openstreetmap effortlessly. I look forward to the automatic http download as someone suggested.

I downloaded the Openstreetmap Cyclemap (CloudMade). It contains the national cycle routes in the UK (where I live) which are in blue and red mainly. This renders two of the track colours useless.

Is it possible to have more choices of track colours?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
No problem - please send me color names (to add to selection box) with RGB values - I will put this in.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
How about:

Orange (RGB: 255,128,0)

Sky Blue (RGB: 0,128,255)

Brown (RGB: 128,0,0)

Purple (RGB: 128,0,255)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
Andy, could you include "Cyclemap (CloudMade)", like in JTileDownloader. I mainly use cycle map rather than street map. Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chefboyrd:
GPX option

First let me say great job creating this program. I have a Garmin 305 that I use for running/riding ... but may stop using it (cause I always take my phone when I ride) why take 2.

Anyway here is my question. I wanted to see my speed data .. so I converted it to a gpx file.. then found this really cool site (http://utrack.crempa.net/) that can take a gpx file and create graphs. Only problem is my speed seems to be off. I think that the reason is that the gpx file has data stored in km/h and not miles/h (because the graph looks about right when I convert it to km/h). Anyway is there a way to get the gpx data to be generated in miles/hour.

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] jasonkruys:
Ok, I have narrowed the problem down now - to my sky connection! When I tried on my phone yesterday after re-installing, I didn't notice my wifi was active :doh:

So, I can access the site / .xml with my phone on my t-mobile internet, but cannot access the site on any device at all (tried 3 x computers and 2 x pda's) on my Sky home internet. Strange. I guess this is an issue with Sky not liking your site for some reason - I can access the 50webs site on its own...maybe it is down to the MTU setting of the Sky connection :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Tharit:
Just logged my first track with this app.

Great application, just what I was looking for.

Thanks a lot!! :)

The OSM tiles feature does seem to have some problems though - it just displays one (random?!) tile for me. When I scroll around or change the zoom level, some other tiles are displayed, so they are definitely available.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
Try to change setting "multimap" to 4 maps 2x zoom.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
I might be wrong - but I think the speed in GPX files must be in kmh, so this could be a bug on the "utrack" website. So we could try 1) have an option NOT to save speed in GPX files, then "utrack" will compute the speed for use (I remember, it does this if not speed data present), so you will get a correct graph. or 2) have an option to save speed in mph.

Maybe 1) is a better option, as it will generate at least a file according to GPX standard.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Yes, Mark is quite right - switch to Multimap mode.

Let me add a bit more explanation about this (if anyone interested in the details):

When mutimap mode is OFF, then only a single map (i.e. single JPEG or PNG images) is plotted. The tool tries to select an image which covers more than 65% area of the screen with a best resolution - and this mode is good if you have just a few large images.

If you use OSM maps, then you have a lot of small images, which are good to be plotted together - that what is multimap mode is doing. It has completely different algorithm for image selection (it tries to select the best zoom level first, then it plots the tiles from this zoom level, regardless which area of the screen is covered by each tile).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
I have experimented the GCC multimap using OSM maps. I downloaded zoom levels 1-9 on top of the higher zoom levels (10-16) for my local area since the low zoom levels are only about 400 tiles for the whole of UK. I use multimap=4 maps 1x zoom. It works very well and it covers the whole screen all the time. I can even zoom out to see the whole Europe although it doesn't give any details.

I've also tried 4 maps 2x zoom and the 4x zoom but I found them "jagged" and not as good as the 1x zoom.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] drtrppr:
Can't tell you how pleased I'm to be able to use OSM-maps! This makes my life a lot easier. For what I've seen, works fine!

I'm not that happy anymore with the GUI. The design is sleek, but not when I'm outdoors (just can't see nothing on touck diamond). Would be great if colors could be inverted (black on white), or if I could choose for bright green of or bright orange text!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Remember that we have a fully custom GUI :cool: ?

You can set any background and text color if you place a jpeg file which is filled with a color you wanted in a folder with GpsCycle exe - fore_color.jpg for font and bk_color.jpg for the backgound. Then just restart the tool to pick these colors. I attached two files with white for background and orage for the font (in a zip).

Also you can change all button images (see the manual) - just place a jpeg with the images you need.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] drtrppr:
:o You know I completely misunderstood this feature? Always thought it was only possible to change looks of buttons. Why? Don't know.

Now can try to find out what's best combo in daylight. Any suggestions (orange on black is not as clear I hoped)? Black on white's gives best contrast I guess?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
I found the battery life is more important unless you only have short ride. I hardly turn on the screen for this reason and my orbit 2 gives me about 5 hours logging immediately after charged from mains. Some time I do refer to the map view for navigation but only do it in a hurry. maps generated by Google Earth are not easily read under the sun since they are all mainly green (forest off-road). Now with the OSM maps, I hope it will be better. I use black track (4 points) on OSM maps.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] drtrppr:
Sorry,wasn't even referring to the map, that's almost mission imposible! Just want to see if I have gps-readings (speed not 0), and then I also turn off the screen. But it's almost impossible to even figure that out!

Only look on the map when I don't have a clue which way to go. Also found out I don't like biking using a map, it's distracting from the 'bike-experience'.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] frizzone:
Various types of maps

Hallo, i'm new in this forum and I don't know very good the English so...sorry in advance.

As far as I know, there is 2 possibility to use maps with this beautiful software

1) specifyng the coordinates of angles of a picture map in a text file

2) using "google earth " files.

If I want to use a map generated by me, usually I specify, with other software, the coordinates of 2 or more well-known points (not the angles). Then I obtain a txt file with the "georeference" of my map.

With this software I cannot do this since I don't know the coordinates of angles and I'm not able to modify the coordinates of map in "google-style" coordinates (i.è. with the coordinate of center and the altitude of angle of view, as explained in the instruction)

My question: there is a way to convert typical map file (for example map for oziexplorer, imp for compegps) of other software in a way that GPS cycle computer can open them?

A converter between typical map system is in this site: http://www.map-imp-gmi-converter.com/index.php

Thank you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pinballhtc:
Hello Andyzap,

first of all, thanks for this great piece of software :)

i also use the utrack website to view my bycicle trips but i found somewhere

on the net that the speed entry of the gpx file must be in meter/hours.

please correct me if i'm wrong as i dont have any experience whatsoever with programming.

this is a piece of the code that i found;

<trk>

<name>Test_2009/04/02_10:11</name>

<trkseg>

<trkpt lat="-16.921794" lon="145.776040">

<ele>149.999664</ele>

<time>2009-04-02T00:11:31Z</time>

<desc>lat.=-16.921794, lon.=145.776040, Alt.=149.999664m.

Speed=0.057274m/h.</desc>

<speed>0.015909</speed>

</trkpt>

<trkpt lat="-16.921803" lon="145.776037">

<ele>149.988312</ele>

<time>2009-04-02T00:11:32Z</time>

<desc>lat.=-16.921803, lon.=145.776037, Alt.=149.988312m.

Speed=0.118173m/h.</desc>

<speed>0.032826</speed>

</trkpt>

Again, thanks for this great software.

i'll never do a biketrip without it since i know it :p

Greetz,

Marco
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] 99048907:
Nice work Andy.

I have just started using the software on a regular basis and its great.

Just wondered what software people are using to view all the info, this great little app gives us.

Have just found quickroute which seems pretty good

http://www.matstroeng.se/quickroute/en/

But ideally I would like something where I could compare routes from different days to see how I am improving. Does anyone know of such software??

Thanks in advance

Graham
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
I looked at the "map" file format for oziexplorer - and it seems complicated. To add a new map format to GpsCycle, I would need help from someone who knows how to use this file format, which records in this files are important/which are not important, etc.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
I was planning to write a tool for PC, to do such a comparison... Also, for the "track-to-follow" - I wanted to add more info to display (e.g. compare the time you spent to cover certain distance), so you can "race against yourself". Also I want to add "graphs" to display altitude, speed, etc - then it would be easier to compare two routes....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
I think this is a GPX file which can be used by a special software only. Looks like there are two different speed info in this GPX example: I think the "correct" one is on the line which starts with <speed>. The other value appears inside "<desc>" - this is a text description of this waypoint and you can write any text there. Basically, some special software writes that extra infornation inside the comment string - but this does not look like a standard GPX....

I.e. I think it is more common to write speed in <speed>, not inside <desc>, and the speed shall be in kmh (if I am not mistaken...)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
Adding waypoints

I've just had a 3 hours ride this Sunday. We came across a few bomb holes which I would like to record their locations for future reference, or track to follow. It would be nice if GCC can support this recording and waypoints in "Track to Follow". I ended up to convert it to KML and retraced the whole route in Google Earth. Luckily, I can identify them by the "loops" we did up and down the bomb holes.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] 99048907:
Sounds great Andy. looking forward to it. :)

In the meantime im considering importing the data into excel and comparing it that way. Haven't had a chance to try yet.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] frizzone:
I can help you sending to you 3 proprely working files and the related map (jpg) in imp gmi map format with ONLY the informations mandatory to the great performance of the software (compegps,gpstuner and ozi respectively)-

Is only a problem of order in the coordinates and the points. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Many thanks for your help! Would you be able to attach files to your post, with some instructions? Or if you prefer, please send me a private message.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] frizzone:
I hope that you can view the attachments. I don't know if the jpg file has been resized during the "uploading" of the file. As you can see the necessary informations among these 3 files are very similar.

The big difference with GPS cycle computer standardisation is that GPS cycle does not allow to specify txt files with coordination points located in any point in the map, but only in the angles. I hope this can help you in solving this important feature for this great software.

PS the are in the jpg is near to Milano (italy). Ciao:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
GCC v3.102

Just downloaded the latest version v3.102. Good work, Andy!

The auto download OSM map doesn't seem to work with ActiveSync. It works fine with the phone's internet connection but a little bit slow. As battery life is absolutely crucial to me, I doubt I will use it for logging. Instead, it will be a good feature while viewing tracks and preparing maps while docked to PC with ActiveSync. Speed should be a lot faster.

At the moment, the only way to view a KML file (from other sources) is to view any existing GCC file with "track to follow" a KML file. I think it will be nice to be able to view the KML file as well as GCC for planning reasons. Some may argue that it can be done by Google Map but it doesn't offer the OSM cycle maps. With this new auto download feature, it can be used to prepare the OSM maps as well, ideally via ActiveSync.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] synth:
I'm using an old HP iPAQ h2210 for biking!

Is there any possibility to make this program working on it?

(WM2003)

Would be great, thnx a lot!

Best wishes, synth
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
I got the iPaq some years ago. You will need a GPS device because, as far as I remember, iPaq h2210 doesn't have GPS. This could be awkard because bluetooth GPS will drain your battery while wired GPS is not practical to carry. Auto map download and live logging will require GPRS or 3G connection but they are optional. The biggest problem for you is the battery life.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] synth:
I used this device the whole last year with TT7 and iGO8!

That's not the problem and I've a BT-GPS-Mouse.

My Problem is, that "GPS Cycle Computer v3" didn't start.

Oh ... The battery isn't really a problem ... using the device with TT7 it works 2 hours, I'm using two batterys. After 4 hours I'm using an external package ... with this one the device runs round about 12 hours.

;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] fabius88:
this program doesn't work very well because I did 2.6km by car but this progr sign 2.8km..it isn't normal
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
You might need to check ActiveSync setting on PC, to allow internet connection. It works fine for me. Try to access web from web browser, to see if you are connected via ActiveSync.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
Did you get any message when you try to start GpsCycle? You could probably try to install/ (or un-install and install again) .NET Compact Framework (need at least version 2.0 to be installed, or you could install 3.5) - search the web for a download.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] AndyZap:
You could try to save your track in KML or GPX file and view in GoogleEarth/GoogleMaps, to check if it is nice and smooth, and the line follows the road. If the accuracy is not good (i.e. line goes up/down), then this could be the reason for incorrect distance. Check if you do not have A-GPS enabled (Assisted-GPS) - it was reports that if this is on, then the GPS accuracy is very bad.

Also - do you have GPS "always on"? If you not, then this also could be a reason for low accuracy.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] fabius88:
mmm...lines are correct..there are no problem! I don't have agps enabled...

but the problem is that on 2.5km the programm makes a mistake 0.2km.. I don't want image on 30km how it is wrong..

sorry for my english.. and i hope you understand me :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
External package?

Synth,

What external package is it? Is it mini-USB compatiable? I have an O2 Orbit 2 (HTC Touch Cruise). I wonder if I can use an "external package" as well.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] markcheng:
Andy,

The auto download works with ActiveSync now for no obvious reason. And it is a lot faster than GPRS connection. Thanks.

For Cyclemap CloudMade (which I use) and others, the maximum zoom level is 16. Zoom levels 17 & 18 are only meanfully for Osmarender and Mapnik. I can understand why it says "download error" if I zoom in beyond level 16. It takes a while to come back though. We don't have this problem with non-auto download mode.

Is it possible to set max level for each available map server in your program so that it will not attempt to dowmload beyond that level?

Another suggestion is to download multiple zoom levels (like JTileDownload, 10,12,14,15,16) along the track but I feel that I am asking too much.

Have you thought about open KML file as well as GCC file? Will this be too complicated?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] RdKetchup:
I started using that application yesterday on my CDMA Diamond, and I first must say it is amazingly well done.

I was planning on using my good old Garmin GPS V to keep track of average speed, distance and max speed when I go rollerblading, but it looks like I will only have to carry my phone around.

Now I do have one problem, the dreaded switching between valid gps lock and "no gps connection" every second. I have the "Exclude stop time" option set, and I think that it gives bad results because of that intermitent gps lock problem. I often end up with an average speed higher than my max speed :)

I tried with and without "Read GPS data directly", and with and without Assisted GPS.

I guess I'll try it again tonight without the "Exclude stop time", and if the average speed seems closer to reality, I'll just use it that way (and try to remember to it pause when I stop for more than a few seconds).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dandan223:
Motorola Q9h Support?

I am guessing I know the answer but figured I'd ask just in case...

Are there any plans for support on the Motorola Q9h (keyboard, no touchpad)?

I tried installing it but get a 'NotSupportedException' and it fails to start.

Thanks in advance.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] drjim:
Great app; love it for running and cycling.

Here's a problem I'm having though. When I first installed GPSCC several months ago (I don't know which version), after a ride I would simply convert the gcc file to kml, click on it in File Explorer, and my route would appear in GoogleMaps on my phone (very cool!). But when I updated to a newer version (not sure which), when I tried to view my route in GoogleMaps, it would be a white background and say No Map. I just updated to 3.102 and same problem.

My Set Maps File Location is: \Storage Card\Program Files\GoogleMaps. My Set Input/Output Files is: \Storage Card\Program Files\GPSCycleComputer

Can you help?

Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] tito_puente:
Hello AndyZap!

I installed GPS Cycle Computer yesterday for the first time. Nice programm with a good design. But i have a problem: I tried to import and view a track which i downloaded at bikemap.net

It is possible to download GPX and KML files. I downloaded both of them and put them at the same location where logged tracks are saved in.

But is impossible to open them with the GPS cycle computer, they aren't shown in the menue. :confused:

Do I have to configurate something or are they any other restrictions to GPX or KML files?

Greetings!