yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flyforfun:
Hello Klaus,

checked with smaller map, a part of the big one. That is working full okay. So it is not a matter of screen resolution. But why in bigger amounts of files this error happens ...?

Ciao

Utz
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Rino74:
Well I mean the altitude is not showed at all

onscreen you see:

Altitude m

_ _ _ cur

0 gain

In v3.1 alttitude is showed so I'm also don't getting it

I believe also it worked before maybe I should try to reinstall with a fresh settings file?

Rino
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Rino74:
Hi

Well completely reinstalling did the trick.

Maybe something wrong with the config file well Luckily it's solved

Thanks

Waiting for further enhancements :-)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hello Utz,

GCC handles map files internally with the lat/long coordinates of the bottom left and top right corner. The pixels to display are linear calculated from these edge points. If the map file is very big, the scale (pixel/lat) is not constant - it is somewhat distorted. This causes errors.

You should divide your map in several smaller files, each with its own gmi file. GCC automatically selects the most suitable map - in multi map mode GCC uses as much maps as needed to cover the whole screen (in older versions you select the number of maps).

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flyforfun:
Hello Klaus,

that is the way i use it. The big map is tiled in pieces smaller than 512x512 pixel by map calibrator. Each jpg has a corresponding gmi file with the right coordinates in the bottom lines ( i checked that ). It seems to be dependant on the amount of files to work with. I will try to find other hints.

Ciao

Utz
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hello Utz,

if the files are small and the coordinates are correct, then I don't understand the error.

Are the coordinates really correct? In your example the lat and long parameters were integers (no decimal point and no digits behind) which is very uncommon. Is the decimal point correct or is it a comma (as usual in Germany)?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Beta version GCC V4.4 beta 2

Hi Folks,

I post an other beta release.

In detail I'm interested in your opinion and experience about the shifting of the menu page. It's not that elegant as the new windows start menu on the newest phones, but I'm interested in any problems or inconveniencies in using it.

As usual report bugs and comments here.

Have fun

Klaus

********* version 4.4 beta 2 *************

new features:

- context menu

- alternate speed calculated from position change

- Elevation Loss and Altitude Delta

- save option sets (to recall)

- day and night scheme

- command line interface to load settings, tracks or track2follow

improvements:

- calculation of Elevation Gain

- calculation of Stoppage Time

- averaging (smoothing) of speed

- displaying of (osm)map with missing zoom levels

- shift menu page

- default zoom can be configured

- settings to recall can be named

bugfixes:

- custom background and foreground

- empty map directories

- recall used map setting
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flyforfun:
Thanks for the update.

Bug: when recalling an option set that has been renamed (and made a new .dat file) , the button is switched back to "recall X".
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flyforfun:
Checked the .gmi file:

it is created by a normal 2.6 version of map calibrator. It sets decimalpoints instead of comma, allthough my pc is typical german setup. And the coordinates are Top left and Bottom right and not the way you wrote. Perhaps that is the difference?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Utz,

the lat/long coordinates must correspond to the points in x/y pixels, see Readme.htm (10.3). Then it should work.You can verify the lat/long coordinates with Google Earth (take care of the format of Lat/long).

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Utz,

It's not a bug, it's a feature. The names of the buttons are part of the setting - what else?

If you recall a setting the buttons change their names to the state the setting was saved (here is a minor bug: the displayed names are not always refreshed, only when you move the menu).

If you rename a .dat file with file manager and recall this in GCC the name switches back. If you rename a button in GCC and then save the setting, it will keep its name.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flyforfun:
Not working on my X1. The settings are saved in new files with new names, but when recalling a button, the other buttons are reset to recall_X.

Another bug: allthough gpx upload to crossingways is activated in options, this doesn't happen when stopping tracking. Only when converting from gcc to gpx comes a message upload yes/no.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flyforfun:
Crossingways

In options you are able to specify another server for upload of livetracking and gpx files. Is there any choice other than crossingways that may be used? Which specifications has the webadress to fullfill?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
If you recall setting1, the names name2 and name3 are set to that name they had as you saved setting1.

If you have already some settings:

- recall setting1

- change name2 and name3 to what you want

- save setting1

- recall setting2

- change name1 and name3 to what you want

- save setting2

- recall setting3

- change name1 and name2 to what you want

- save setting3

It behaves like described:

"Upload GPX file (after saving)" means GPX file is uploaded after GPX file was created. (GPX file must be created before it can be uploaded.)

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
The server must be compatible to crossingways. This option was included for an user who developed his own server.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Folks,

I'm on holiday the next 3 weeks. So don't expect an answer from me in this time, but I'm continuing development of GCC - even though in small steps.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] edgarjmejia:
hello,

I new whit a Cycle computer, one question: it´s possible load a map for the user, storage in the internal memory?..

I load a 4.4. beta it´s good. ..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dacoon:
hi,

i have wrote a little program to download Google-Map maps easy at any zoom. the program is attached for all ... but it's only a fast build from me ... so perhaps including bugs :D

... How to use

1. Start Google Earth

2. Draw a path around your area you would download

3. Save this path as a kml file

4. Start the program

5. Select your kml file

6. Select all Zoom's you think to need

7. Write or Select a directory ...

8. Press Download

9. Wait and drink some coffee ;) (300 Tilts Downloading need by me 30sec. or less ... for the whole planet in all zoom's you need so ... over 1,3k years :D and 260 Tera byte ... so don't try)

10. Copy all directory's to you phone in the maps-dir of gpscycleccomputer

11. done ?! XD
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Wow, COOL!!

Is it using JPG + GMI files?

Now I don't have time to try it :(

Il will do it tomorrow.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
i get an error as soon i choose the .kml file

'_________________blankspace_______14,43322860056916' ist kein gultiger Gleitkommawert.

what it means?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dacoon:
PNG files and working like openstreetmaps ...

first folder (1-19) for zoom

|- second folder for x-tilt

- file for y-tilt

... no GMI needed, working really exactly for zoom 8-19 ... lower have a little offset ... and you can use nearly unlimited many files ... by gmi my gcc is laggi if it's over 1000 files

ohh, my kml files have this coordination layout

<coordinates>
-0.5252706619467074,51.88899014796034,0 0.3508769370727527,51.13355423017147,0 </coordinates>

... i think your KML have twist "." and "," ... or ? If you send your kml file ... i can write a workaround for this problem ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
here u have my kml
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dacoon:
a new one ^^
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
Strange... When I try to "Select KML" I get this error:

"An invalid character was found in text content"
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dacoon:
KML Files ... no KMZ ... ;) ...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
:D I didn't even notice that I've made KMZ :) Sorry!

It's working now!

Finaly, simple program for making maps for GCC! Thank you!

Btw, "Google maps - Map" is gray. Is there way to select Satelite? Or Hybrid?

And you could add this program to download page (http://code.google.com/p/gccv2/downloads/list)

And one question, 4000 points are in exported GPX and KML, or only in GPX?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
seems its working fine now, although i'll try it fully when i get home cos im on trip.. thanks a lot!:D

update: just tried, works fine! thx :)

if you can manage to get google sat even better ;)

thx once more!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] BingoBonzo:
GPS is gone when going to sleep

My HD2 "sleeps" after a minute or so and the tracking of my position via GPS does the same thing. Thus leading to pretty inaccurate results..

I have checked the Options->"Use alternate method.."

Any tips to come around this issue?

I'm using this ROM: Energy.Leo.21914.Sense2.5.Cookie.DinikGlass.Aug.18
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Prozium:
Congrats and future work

Congratulations to all the developers!!

This is an amazing utility and now I always have my htc with me when I ride on my bike.

From my "field experience", I have some suggestions that would enrich the user experience and can be the basis of future developments:

- Since it accounts for total time excluding stops, it would be interesting to include a sound signal when the program stops/starts counting. The Garming Edge 705 has this feature.

- Also, it would be interesting to have real time slope so that bikers can know the degree of the slope (positive or negative).

- Another interesting feature is to have the slope in advance (if you follow a track) so that we can know how hard is going to be next. For example, "in 5 km, slope turns +10%"

- In my htc touch 2, the screen protector turns off the screen whatever I told gcc. It would be a nice idea that the screen remains on (low light) and that it turns on when touched anywhere in the screen.

- Finally, supporting bluetooth Heart rate transmitter would be awesome. Polar has introduced one and it seems the future of heart rate monitors due to its versatibility. If you google "Polar WearLink + transmitter with Bluetooth", the first result will show the product. In any case, bluetooth is not associated to Polar, so any other transmitter will also work.

I hope this suggestions would make even better this fantastic application.

Regards,

Javi
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] OlekB:
OMarket

AndyZap, could you upload new version of GPS Cycle Computer to freewarepocketpc.net and OMarket?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Javi (Prozium),

- I will try to implement start/stop-beep and slope, although slope may be very inaccurate due to inaccurate altitude reading.

- Slope in advance is very costly and I think it isn't worth it.

- If GCC is logging the screen protector should not switch off the screen. But some HTC devices shown some bad power management. I will try a little improvement (without warranty).

- Polar hbm are not easy to integrate and polar offers no documentation on the data format.

Klaus (back from holiday)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] stormer128:
Hi,

despite my last post is very long ago, I have a new suggestion on fixing the problem of copying the plenty of files and folders you get when you download tiles from openstreetmap.

Transferring one single large file to the phone is faster than a huge number of small ones. So if we could pack the tiles into some zip-files it would be better. Compressing the files (testet with 44.000 files in 1.000 folders) takes only about five minutes and copying this zip-file to the phone is done in about two minutes. Compared to that copying the plain files takes hours. Moreover the zip-file uses 1/3 less space on the phones memory, because every file and folder needs some additional space in the filesystem.

The only problem is that a zip-file is limited to a maximum of filesize so gps cycle computer would have to handle some zip-files which contain all the map-tiles. But I think there will be a solution for that because zip-files can be treatet like folders and all files compressed in a zip can be accessed randomly.

I hope you can add this function to the program.

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ArmaBene:
Hi Klaus,

there is the accelerometer that could offer accurate slope reading (with phone properly locked on the bike...)

Best Regards

Armando
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi stormer128,

map in a single file is on the top of my todo list. I thought of implementing one of the many formats of other similar applications.

Zipping of jpegs gets not much benefit, but calculation effort.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Armando,

is there a standard software interface to read the data of such an accelerometer? Do you have detailed informations?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ArmaBene:
Hi Klaus,

I just found this link:

http://blog.enterprisemobile.com/2008/07/using-htc-diamonds-sensor-sdk-from-managed-code/

Thank You again!

Armando
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
interesting! At some day, when I have a device with G-Sensor, I will try to implement this. (If someone donates me a mobile with G-Sensor I start at once ;-)

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
new version 4.4

Hi,

I have released the new version 4.4 of GpsCycleComputer. There are a few small features and improvements in excess of the 4.4beta2.

Download is available on the usual place (or with AppToDate):

http://code.google.com/p/gccv2/downloads/list

Have fun

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Prozium:
Awesome

Thanks for your hard work Klaus.

Regarding the Polar heart rate, you said Polar is a black box for developers. My question is if there is another alternative to Polar. I am telling this because I wanted to buy one but I want to make sure it will function with gcc.

Regards,

Javi
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Javi,

the commercial application 'Run.GPS' (which is in many cases the reference in such sports GPS applications) supports 3 bluetooth HRM (according to the online available manual):

● Zephyr HRM

● Zephyr HxM

● FRWD B Series (http://www.frwd.fi/)

The last one is a 'translator' device which uses usual HR-belts (cheap one, 20$) and translates the simple RF signals from those belts in bluetooth. On their homepage there is a documentation of the bluetooth protocol.

Only as info - without the promise that gcc will support this in the near future.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Folks,

GpsCycleComputer is now also online on the freeware platform:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-gpscyclecomputer.html

If you like this application you can give a rating there.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] edgarjmejia:
Hello again. I'm having so much fun with this program and my bike.

I have a new question, I can not find the thread as much as I seek: how I can convert GPX to GCC?

Thanks for the replies
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi,

I don't know anything about conversion of GPX to GCC.

You can load a GPX-file as track to follow (menu: Track2follow).

For the opposite - conversion GCC to GPX - there is a Win32 application on download area "gcc2gpx_1.0.zip". This converts all logged points from gcc to gpx without reducing the data (as does the integrated function of gcc)..

Do you need to convert gpx in gcc? What is the usage?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] edgarjmejia:
oops.... Sorry, as I said I'm new. had not tried before horizontal arrows .. <>. to change the format. gcc -- kml -- gpx

thanks for your answer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] aang024:
Thanks Blaustein for you work. Excelent program.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] lancedehm:
Excellent program!! I've used for a while and work like a charm!! :D!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
been using GCC for two weeks actively so far with my Tytn 2... sports: running and trekking... no objections, prog works like a charm, excellent job!

cant find the reason why sometimes it says the wrong altitude... done the WGS correction but still sometimes it gives me like 10m +/- unreal altitude.... huh...

one question for possible implementation... is it possible to add beats timer? since im running it would be a great add to hear the beats i want to so i can time better... some running watches have that implemented, but i don't know how it's called that option...

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Papcina,

in GPS system altitude is generally not as accurate as horizontal position. +/- 10m is an acceptable accuracy - especially in difficult receiving conditions.

What do you mean wit beat timer? Can you explain in detail what this option should do?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
its like.. uhm... well u set a specifical beats per minute u want to and after that the PPC (or any other device, running watch or smthg similar) will sound each beat... for example you set 150 bpm and the sound will ring 150 times and you can follow that beats to match your steps... its cool so you can pace your run with that beeps... you don't over or under exceed specifical beat...

dont know if i told okay... this could be useful... http://www.run2r.com/Technical+linking-bpm-to-running-speed.aspx
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
I will keep it in mind. But isn't it more attractive to play a music with the appropriate BPM?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
lol, well it all depends when and what for you run :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Golf_4711:
other Mapformat?

Hello Blaustein,

your tool GCC is absolute huge!!!

Thanks a million :)

I use it since approximately 2 years.

I construct the maps with the tool Mobile Atlas Creator

as format "Mobile Trail Explorer".

It is similar with your map-format and it function very well!

Only one problem (is not a really problem :) )

this format make to many separate parts of files and subdirectories.

Is there the possibility, that you will include in the next Versions of GCC a Mapformat with less fileparts.

The best things would be one file for one city.

For example the format "Mobile Trail Explorer cache" generated only one file.

Thanks again for your perfect tool and that you share this with us!

Regards

Golf :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Golf,

this issue is already on top of my todo-list. I only got stuck in many ways.

I had a look on MTEcache format - I doesn't really like it. I think there will be a serious performance problem if the cache file is big.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] glaucos:
Hummm... one big map... isn't it a bit slowly than a multiple little map?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
If you make it right it is faster and uses less space than the huge number of files of the current solution.

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] glaucos:
Less space: yes, because of the FAT cluster

Faster: sure? (it's just a question, not a provocation :) )
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Golf_4711:
THX ;-)

Hello Blaustein (Klaus),

nice to hear, that you plan to construct a new file-format :)

Can't wait to test the solution.

Regards

Golf ;)

PS Navicomputer also use a one part map-format. It is fast!

But the apps it is not exactly my cup of tea :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Do you have any experience with huge files? You might be right. Moving file pointer backward might be a time consuming issue, also moving forward by large amounts...

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] CyberDemonVZ:
I have one idea for GPSCC v3.

Posiblitiy to add favorite places. And then when You start GPSCC next time, he automaticly loads them and show them on map. Or load and save "favorites" manualy in files!

This woulad be great for, "Home" or "work" or.. on bike trips, "Fresh water wells" or other places for rest or food...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Thanks for this suggestion. I put it on my todo list. I will name it POI (Points Of Interest).

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] womisa:
Hi

NAVIComputer has a SQLITE DB (FORMAT). I have implemented this in MOBAC.

GLOPUS has a very simple gmf Format. Pleas look into. MOBAC support this Format.

Regards

Achim
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Achim,

can you provide me more (detailed) information about the formats - or a link where I can find them?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] womisa:
Hi Klaus,

you can download the Source of MOBAC-Creator than look into many interesting output-Formats in the sourcecode. http://sourceforge.net/projects/trekbuddyatlasc/files/

I'm not a JAVA Expert however this was very interesting for me..... You can found the implementation of the "OUTPUT-FORMATs" in the class "mobac.program.atlascreators".

...

GlopusMapFile.java ==> Glopus *gmf format (Desciption in the Header)

NaviComputer.java ==> SQLite-Database for Navicomputer

....

The study of the NAVICOMPUTER-Format is very easy.

-create with MOBAC a NaviComputer OutputDataBase (Attlas setings ==> NaviComputer (NMAP)

-You can install a FireFox plugin for SQLITE ( SQLIite Manager)

- Now you can analyze the NMAP output-data-base-format

I hope this helps

Achim
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
hi again

one fast info...

i have two gcc (or gpx) files that i want to merge into one...

at the half track my ppc suddenly restarted itself so on the way back i had to log the track as a new one... how can i merge them into one?

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
You can use a "GPX Editor" (search on google) to merge (and edit) GPX files.

Next time you run in such a situation you can load the old track and *continue* this track rather than start a new one (menu page - Continue).

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] BB73:
gcc in WP7

Anyone try GCC in windows phone 7?

Run?

Thanks Blaustein for your app! What do you think about a new phone;-)?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
you want to donate me one? :-)

Fantastic! The accu of my phone is dying....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Papcina:
hi, having a problem...

last few saves i couldn't upload to crosingways... it says

File couldn't be converted. It is probably broken.

Try another file. Contact the support for questions.

i use gcc2gpx converter and i always keep getting that error... what am i doing wrong?

thx
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Blaustein:
Hi Papcina,

have you tried an other file? Perhaps an old file which worked in former days or a file from an other source.

Can you post here a small file which produces this error?

Klaus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Hakim Rahman:
if so try just GpsCycleComputer_4.4SP1 !!!!! I think it can help you :D :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] oldsap:
hi i downloaded map calibration tool and then plotted 3 calibration points on my jpeg file. when i try to open it using gcc on my device, it says Read Error. any help please?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] oldsap:
please disregard. i followed the help file and used google earth imstead and it works great.

option request for the app:

ability to send gps location at specified intervals thru sms. Thanks