yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
The post you referenced is mine

At the moment, w/o any prior experience, it seems rather complex.

I'll play around with it, and see what I can come up with.

I have about 40 apps to load, so this is important to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Todd, what about my question in post #714?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2769722&postcount=714

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Todd, I may have missed it, but have you published a list of changes in v4?

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
As far as using Sashimi for installing applications, it couldn't be easier... I use it myself.

Just install Sashimi to your Storage Card, run it from the shortcuts it creates, and point the Auto settings to the directory where you keep your CABs. It allows you to select whether CABs should install to SD or Main Memory.

I only use Sashimi for CABs (about 25 of them when not using my Loaded ROMs), and you only have to configure it once, which takes less then 5 minutes to do. I also cheat a bit by copying the shortcut Sashimi creates in the Start Menu to the root of my SD card. That way, after a fresh flash, I just tap the shortcut and Sashimi launches (just say NO to the prompt to create more shortcuts).

I have not posted a changelog for v4 yet since it is not final. The ROMs will be up later tonight if my ISP cooperates with me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
It DOES seem easy

I (think) I successfully configured Sashimi to install all my cabs, either to Device or to the SD card, as per the instructions.

I even exported the various registry settings to the appropriate directory (REG), hoping that it'll indeed work and save me the work of registering all those apps... (I saw that some of the registry keys contained the application password).

It seems I'll be able to test all of this later tonight...

In any case, I do have an updated full backup of the current setup.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan78:
For all AT&T users who may be interested, I just got confirmation from an AT&T corporate store rep that the HTC FUZE will launch on Oct. 23rd. With a 2 year agreement, it will be $299 after a $50 rebate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
hmmm

Not good for people who can't use camera-enabled phones...

But this is for a different thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
I really, really, really, really, really, really want to believe you. If so, I'll be procuring one on October 31st, so I'm within 30 days of purchase when they inevitably drop the price in time for Black Friday.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
How much is it for those of us that aren't eligible for a new contract yet? I just barely signed my contract when I bought the Tilt a couple months ago...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan78:
I believe the rep said $499, but don't quote me on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan78:
I think the Tilt was $149.99 before MIR on Black Friday last year, so the FUZE should be $174.99 before MIR. Wish they had a $100 rebate for the FUZE, but it's only $50.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
They drop prices on black friday? What was the Tilt with no new contract (existing customers) last black friday?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan78:
Unfortunately, no. That price was with new service or contract extension. Just so we keep the thread from being too cluttered, please pm me with any additional questions. I have an idea that may or may not work to get you a new device. PM me for details.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
People, keep this thread focused....

It's about NATF's ROMs, not about future ATT devices...

(I want him focused on getting the new v4 version out ASAP)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Sorry guys, I got caught up in a shredding session with Rock Band 2. The ROMs are uploading now, but my upload speed is crawling right now...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asfoor:
Looking forward to V4.... Great work, still using the initial V1 in one of my three tilts...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] WatermelonSlim:
What's your gamertag? I'm addicted to Rock Band 2...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Must be real slow. Waiting mode: on. Will mirror at http://fsoft.com/natf when they are posted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
All varieties of v4 are up! My upload was a measly 50kb/sec... it's normally over 1MB/sec (20/20 symmetrical FiOS)

A few notes:

I did NOT update the screenshots because I am too tired to flash 8 different ROMs and capture 100+ screens. Not very much changed graphically...

Updated HTC Album to v2.0.1818.3829.4 (all versions)

Updated Manilla2D to v0.11 (All related apps updated also)

Updated M2DC to v0.8.111

Updated TaskManager to v2.1.34837.5

Added Bluetooth Explorer (all versions)

Added Bluetooth QuickLink (all versions)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] htcfan78:
Downloaded. Will flash tomorrow, and provide feedback. Hope to be the first one to say "Nice work".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TrainRekS:
that analog clock.

how did you get that analog/digital clock on manilla?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Mirror for ATT v4 versions

Here's 4Shared Mirror for the ATT versions:

http://www.4shared.com/file/66845488/1b43c0b1/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Home.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/66848630/7829dfb/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Loaded.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/66849758/e67dbf1d/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Manilla_Home.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/66847103/e88a9951/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Manilla_Loaded.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Loaded.zip

Hi Todd,

You left the backlight settings on the lowest settings, both for battery and external power.

Other than that, I don't know, this new version (ATT LOADED) behaves strangely. it's very laggy, GPS TTFF (using the Niki 1.65.29.22) was over 4 minutes (with updated AGPS), while with the previous ROM and same radio it was less than 40 seconds, and subsequent fixes at about 10-15 seconds.

I had no problem while flashing, but the Sashimi auto install did get screwed up and I ended installing most things manually.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NerdsMcGee:
I keep getting an error on startup that Voice Command cannot start because not enough memory is available. I have checked and I still have 47% ram free, and it's persistent across Hard Resets
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Thank you. Added to the download post.

I didn't touch any of the default backlight settings (5 line from left for battery, max for plugged in). GPS is behaving normal for me; my first fix comes in about 50 seconds, and then less than 10 seconds after that.

Voice Command is working fine for me. What other apps have you loaded? This popped up in v2.1, and it ended up being an app playing with Voice Command.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Direct links mirror:

http://www.fsoft.com/natf/v4/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Home.rar

http://www.fsoft.com/natf/v4/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Loaded.rar

http://www.fsoft.com/natf/v4/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Manilla_Home.rar

http://www.fsoft.com/natf/v4/ATT_NATF_v4_ATT_Manilla_Loaded.rar
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NerdsMcGee:
I haven't installed any apps. Just hard reset and went through the setup, then got the error about Voice Command
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Sounds like a bad flash. Which build are you running?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fmg9800:
MSVC

I received the same error. I loaded v4 ATT Manila Loaded. Did not add any other apps. In fact I received the out of memory error MSVC must shut down right after the system restarted after installing all it's apps.

Seems like that error comes and goes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NerdsMcGee:
AT&T Manila Home V4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fitdocsr:
Any idea why I cant change clocks on v4? No problems on previous Manilla 2d versions. Running ATT Manilla loaded
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vastelectron:
Weather works?

I'm using v3 Manilla AT&T loaded and the weather doesn't over cellular connection. It works over wifi but not cellular. Does the weather works on this new version4 for cellular connection?

I don't want to uncheck proxy settings because it's needed for cellular video to work. I hate the new realone player BTW, even though it does work with CV.

Thanks for the new ROM great work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Todd, I installed the v4 Manila version, but want to go back to the

regular AT&T version.

Is there ANY way to backup from this version and restore to the AT&T version?

Maybe some sort of partial restore?

I've spent over 4 hours carefully tabulating all apps that I have to install, and classifying them according to installation to Device/SD card, does the app require a SR post installation, does the app require some sort of manual input during installtion, etc. It IS a nightmare! I did this work in order to see which part of the process can be automated (I wrote earlier that my previous attempt to use Sashimi - failed).

Regarding Manila, it's probaly a question of personal preferences, but it drives me nuts that I can't have the SBSH pocketweather Today plugin, or the Newsbreak Today plugin, etc, as I can do (with SPB Shell) in the ATT versions.

Is there any way to create custom tabs in the Manila interface? Maybe this way I'll find a satisfying solution.

AND, as in my previous test of the v3 Manila, GPS TTFF times are terrible! Now with v4 Manila, and an updated AGPS file, clear skies, etc - it took just under 6 minutes, while on the v3 ATT Loaded, it'd take me slightly less than 40 seconds.

Just for the sake of it, I'll flash the v4 ATT Loaded, install just the SATNAV app I use, update the AGPS and will write here the results.

[edit] Well, it's confirmed.

I flashed ATT v4 Loaded with Niki 1.65.29.22, installed the RemoveHiddenProxy.cab and HTC Connection Manager (in order to define my Cell operator's settings), updated the AGPS data and ran my SatNav app.

I got a GPS TTFF within 50 seconds, which is slightly worse than with v3.25, but DEFINITELY better than with the Manila verions!

I tested with a barebones system, so that I could verify that there was no other app interfering with the test.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mistertip:
Great Job!

Every since you have answered my question about a ATT junkless ROM, I've been using your ROM and others and keep coming back to yours. :)

I aim to send you a nice size donation as soon as funds are straight.

Keep up the GREAT WORK. How do you get your local weather to work on Manilla?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
NET CF 3.5 installation error - ATT V4 LOADED

Hi Todd,

I reverted to NATF V4 ATT Loaded and finally succeeded in using Sashimi to automate part of the apps installation.

After I had a stable system (and backed it up, of course), I tried to install NET CF 3.5 and received the following error message:

This is the file I was trying to load:

NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab

The file installation went to the end, and then I received the error message.

If I recall correctly, I had the same issue with the v4 Manila ROM.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Possibly a glitch introduced with the latest Manilla.

Weather will not work over Cellular unless you uncheck the proxy box. Don't worry, it will NOT break Cingular Video. CV only requires the Hidden Proxy to be present, which it is.

See my previous quote... as long as the proxy box in unchecked, HTC Weather will work. If you need a special city added to the database, let me know and I'll add it to the next revision.

.NetCF 3.5 is cooked into the loaded ROMs... along with a utility to toggle between 2.0 and it. You do not need to load a CAB.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mam112663:
First, let me say that I think your ROM's are great.

Second, I installed the HTC Manilla loaded today and for some reason the battery indicator is not there on the status line.

Is there a separate cab I can use to install it?

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dgates71:
Running perfectly on my Tilt

Great job once again, no issues to report at this time. So what's next?:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fitdocsr:
In reference to changing clocks, you have to disable touchflo from the home screen before changing now. Not really a problem at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
I executed the netconfig app and checked the "about" tab, it says that the .net cf version installed is 2.0.7045.0, not 3.5.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Ragarding my previous "missing BT" question from a few pages back

Hi Todd,

Yesterday, while trying out the v4 Manila Loaded, I found the thing I was looking for and thought was missing.

Actually, it's not a separate app, but rather a missing tab in the BT explorer, and this tab exists in the Manila version, but is missing in the ATT version.

This tab showed all available BT profiles.

I setup both versions exactly the same (as per a detailed application list), and I did not pair a BT device, so this tab is something pre-defined.

Sadly, I did not make a screen capture.

Could you please check the tabs that you have in the Manila Loaded?

Thanks.

[edit] Confirmed!

The v4 Manila Loaded version DOES have an additional BT tab, called "Profiles", and the header says "Supported Profiles".

This tab is between the Timeout tab and the Security tab.

Here's the screenshot:

All of this on a clean system, following HR and no additional apps at all.

This version does not retain the "enable bt explorer" checkbox as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
NATF,

Will V4 let me install the OpalPhoneCanvas properly? I am using V2 Final HTC and I can not get it to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reddweb:
with v4, I do not see the battery icon. Is there a seperate cab i need to install ? thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Todd, you're right.

After a couple of unsuccessful attempts to install NETCF 3.5, I decided to perform an HR, and there indeed was the 3.5 version' along with the 2.0 version.

It seems that the unsuccessful installation screwed it up!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
NATF ATT V4 LOADED - BT explorer does not run

Even in a clean system following HR.

(start-programs-tools-bt explorer).

BT is turned ON in the coom manager.

Also it doesn't retain the "enable bluetooth explorer" checkbox in Start-settings-connections-bluetooth-FTP tab.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
NATF ATT V4 LOADED - bad GPS TTFF

I tested this with a clean system (following HR).

The only apps loaded were the HTC connection setup, that enabled me to quickly define my cellular operator's settings (for the GPRS connection), the RemoveHiddenProxy CAB file and my Satnav app.

GPS TTFF was over 3 minutes! As opposed to about 40 seconds with the previous ROM.

I also received this TTFF yesterday, several times, with a fully configured system.

I'll reflash the 3.25 ROM later on today, and verify this.

[edit] Confirmed!

Reflashed the 3.25 AT&T Loaded ROM.

The only apps loaded were the HTC connection setup, that enabled me to quickly define my cellular operator's settings (for the GPRS connection), the RemoveHiddenProxy CAB file and my Satnav app.

GPS TTFF was almost 50 seconds (a bit longer than my previous tests).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
The battery icon is enabled by a registry setting. You can turn it on using KaiserTweak.

I'm not sure why some tabs are missing from the Bluetooth menus in non-Manilla ROMs. They are exactly the same base wise. The only thing I do different is not check the boxes for Manilla apps during cooking.

As for GPS changes between versions, I also did not change any core files related to GPS.

I see this as well using the Manilla version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] garyfunk:
Welcome to Hell's Kitchen, staring Chef Todd.

regardless of the little problems, this is a great ROM and I enjloy using it. Thanks Todd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RojasTKD:
Flashed V4 Manilla last night, so far so good. Very nice!

Only this is I don't see the little headset icon in the dialer (same with V3.2.5). Not I big deal but is is useful to see if they are paired before calling.

Great work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
Yeah, I'm the star...

The weird thing is, my headset (Jabra BT250v) does display the headset icon when I'm using it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Could you please post here the BT cabs that you use?

I'll try to install them, to see whether the tab does reappear.

I understand, but I did do clearcut tests, all in the same location. Very strange.

Last, could you please post the cabs BubbleBreaker (the game), TaskManager v2.1.34837.5, Bluetooth Explorer, Bluetooth QuickLink?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
I actually use packages converted from the CAB files. I don't have my kitchen with me today, so I can't post them until tonight. But I think all the CABs are in my updated compilation in the download section.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
No, I checked.

This missing BT tab is very strange.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mocky:
Sorry if it was asked before! Is there any way to replace original Alarm and Weather in AT&T v4 Manilla (not loaded) with PocketWeather and PocketAlarm?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
Anyone have any luck with this yet? I know NATF has been in the OPAL thread trying to get mbavarians help but not sure if anyone has figured it out yet. Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] urinud:
HTC v4 Manilla Loaded - Questions

Hi, I'm using the HTC v4 Manilla Loaded ROM and it works really good.

I have some questions:

1. There is a way to change the initial clock for a digital one?.

2. How can I enlarge the "Calendar" part of the initial screen to see more appointments (may reduce the clock area)?

3. There is a way to make the menus (today and the contextual ones) a little larger?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] didaskein:
I have the same problem with my exchange outlook account !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
DxC iPhone Dialer

I really like the look of DxC iPhone Dialer v.3c (Black, WWE), the big buttons are great, the whole look is great.

I was hoping that you had magically fixed the problems with this dialer, since you have been such a wizard with everything else, but alas, it still has its problems (or quirks, depending on how you look at it).

You can't redial by hitting Hardware Call Button twice, that's a for sure, or by hitting Hardware Call Button once to bring up the dialer, then pressing the Onscreen Call Button. So to redial the last number you dialed, you have to bring up the Call List, then hit Hardware Call Button. This holds true in Landscape as well as Portrait.

The other issue that has been reported by others in the past and noticed by me, too (in the past), that of locking up the whole phone when you're in a call and switch to keyboard to enter #'s (like banking info), doesn't seem to be happening here, so that's a good thing.

Another good thing is that it behaves well with SmartSKey, where some dialers disable the right and left actions on the D-Pad.

I'm so used to the normal redial feature that I may switch back to regular dialer, despite the smaller buttons and not as good looking.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
I updated my CABs section to include the version of RealOne Player that is compatible with Cingular Video. Installed it and tested OK with no other modifications required.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Ryoh:
That fixed the problem. Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gasman858:
Speed Tweaks

NATF - Thanks for the great ROM series, really appreciate the ATT base.

Question - I seem to remember you mentioned in the V1 thread that V2 would have some registry tweaks/speed mods cooked in. Can you outline what changes you made?

Thanks (& sorry about your Phillies tonite!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
I am downloading and will install the HTC base rom soon. I am hoping it will be a bit cleaner for me as I am not on ATT network. When do you expect a final version to be released?

Is SPL3.56 alright for this ROM as well?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] diceman725:
This is a great series of ROMs. Well done!

One question I've got is with Audio Manager. I've tried a number of versions with no luck. I get the message - "The file 'AudioManager cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one..."

The only version I could get working doesn't sort the music files properly (by name, not by track number). I've searched on this site for an answer. Any one had the same problem or know a fix? I'm not a fan of Windows Media Player.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
What happened to the 10 button comm manager. I have 9 now with the HTC base, it is missing 3G. Where could I find the one included in your first ATT base ROM?

Great work again!!! Runs like a charm, clean and fast, THANKS!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] One who observes:
NATF

Any joy on that HTC dialer?

I found one but the video function didn't work.

I also found a 10 button comm manager
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] starrwulfe:
wow-- you're on the money, NATF!

Thanx Cush for the look on this realplayer cab-- as soon as I get some free time here at work, I'll load it up and give it a try!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NotATreoFan:
You know what... I forgot to include my registry tweaks! :o

I can't feel too back about the Phillies game last night. Florida gets a 6 run lead, but we come back and only lose by 2... Besides, the Marlins pitching staff got away with 3 obvious balks, which lead to chants of "Get off your knees Ump, you're blowing the game!"

Oh, and it was Hatfield Dollar Dog night. My new record: 10.

Let me look into this. I'll get back to you.

For a back-to-basics look, I left the default Comm Manager alone in this version. However, if the general consensus would like to see it back in, I will do that for V2.1.

Unfortunately I haven't had much luck with the HTC dialer. I think it will take more then just a CAB file to enable video calling on the AT&T ROM. I'll whip up a test ROM with the HTC dialer cooked in and see if that allows it to function correctly.

Thanks for posting the Comm Manager. For the life of me I could not find a 10-button Comm Manager for the Kaiser in CAB form. I used a package to cook it into V1.