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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
I've been running it for 3 days now, the sluggishness is gone, however Windows Live Search doesn't work. Google maps works fine, but WLS doesn't. Haven't figured out why yet. Igo works great, TomTom, and other GPS tools all work fine.

Installed the new Manilla2D this morning and it seems to work, however it won't let me install the Opera Cab that was listed in the thread, so looking for a known working OperaMobile with this rom so I can get that to work.

Manilla2D is awesome for those who haven't tried it yet. Blows PointUI out the window :)

Still one thing I can't figure out, how come none of these interfaces puts much effort into VM? Don't most people get Voice Mails? I know PointUI will show messages, but no click to open, Manilla doesn't show anything other than the normal notification icon on the start bar.

Anyways, just wanted to update my original post about the sluggishness, so far it's as fast as DCD's and the extra ram is very very nice.

A suggestion to No2Chem, how about creating a few options in the kitchen, 1 for "Full Camera w/ Video", "Camera w/o Video", and "No Camera", this way those who want to be able to take pictures can use the camera but not need as many buffers reserved so that less ram is wasted, and an option for those who like your rom, but don't necessarily need the extra ram.

At least do this until you figure out how to get the camera to load when needed and drop back off when not needed.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] studentjunk:
Have you tried the opera mobile from the opera website? This is the version I am using, and it works fine (although I do sometimes get out of memory errors).

Also, I got live search to work ok too. I downloaded it from microsoft. Hope this helps.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
I just switched back to DCD to see how Manilla2D runs on it, so far so good, and decent memory left. I'm 99% sure I will switch to No2Chems once either his next beta comes out of the final version.

The Opera cab I had now works, so it was a conflict with something on No2Chems beta.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
Manilla 2D works fine on pre 1. I'm playing with it now. :) Also, the newer Omnia Opera cabs work fine here also.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] omair2005:
new version is out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
I don't see anything but a cab for the new picture mail. Is that what you are talking about?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] hindjew1:
I suppose - but i'm on sprint, installed it...followed directions, and nada!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
:confused:

Do you mean that you installed touchflo 2d and it didn't work?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] joojoobee666:
more free RAM

If anyone is interested, I cooked another pre1 ROM and set the pagepool to 4MB with no real adverse affects. Been running it for a couple of hrs. Free RAM on boot is now 33.5MB for me WITH all my apps installed/homescreen configured. Even MORE RAM :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Zenoran:
I think this is gonna be a good month for the titan... no2 gettin' closer to releasing a happy version of the nue3 and bugs getting worked out of manilla2d we gonna be rockin' before diamond/touch pro comes out... im excited!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
I am excited too, running M2D on pre1 and still have 21MB at idle, after running for a day and a half without a soft reset. I have the page pool set at 12MB.

M2D is a memory hog and pre1 seems to have enough left over to run all applications. It is sweet.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nmhusa:
I want my camera toggle.

Switched back to JD's 2.6 from nuerom3pre1 just for the camera and the crummy keyboard issues on nuerom. I am running with 4.25 pp and manilla2D. Smooth for the most part, but I still notice the slow memory drain. Was not present on Nuerom3pre1 with same apps installed. Not sure what is up.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
You could install the Opal keyboards to get rid of the keyboard problem. Can't help with the camera though.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 760hacker:
When is the next release?

Anyone have some insider info on when the next update will come for the NueRom? I really would like to flash this to try it out with M2D but I know if i do it based on my luck he will drop a new rom update the following day. :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
Then please flash as I would like another version. :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
I second that idea!!! Get flashing!!

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 760hacker:
hahaha thanks guys.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rhannahs19:
pre 2 has been released....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] indagroove:
WOOHOO! nueKernel -- holy shart!!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
Alright, one of you sprint guys needs to flash it and tell us how cool it is before the basekit gets uploaded :D

Seriously, flash it and let us know!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] worldwidepmp:
Very impressive you can change your page pool from your device, camera toggle for low and high ram. Mind blowin!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
Just finished downloading the basekit, Now would be the time to donate and try this out, hint hint.....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] indagroove:
It's pretty slick. 12MB pagepool. Still 24MB at boot.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] SimpTheChimp:
Soo... did he fix the camera? Can it be toggled on and off?

GPS work?

And will this work for Verizon?

I've been holding off on his ROM until he finishes it... like to hear from someone who has used the newly released version and get their thoughts... because if this works for Verizon and has the camera I am gonna flash to it ASAP!! :)

Finally, what is the URL to point to this release?

Chimp (Tom)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] flyers2114:
Very very impressive work by NO2Chem as usual.....it has a new kernel where you can set it to low memory hence camera working or high memory no camera.....I have it running low memory and running Manilla 2D....booting at 24mb and running steady at 19mb....page pool can be set within the kernel on the phone....I am currently clocked at 4....and it is still running fast and smooth....well worth it...as far as Verizon not sure but he does have a base kit also and I would imagine it will work....

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
The base kit works for verizon. You just put it in the ppckitchen and cook a ROM up. :)

This is pre 2 by the way not pre 3. No2Chem made a typo on the update post.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] SimpTheChimp:
So what's the difference between pre2 and pre3? And is pre2 a 'general' availability, or does one still need to contribute to get the code.

Also, I've never used the ppckitchen before - always used dcd's ROM and kitchen. So are there instructions somewhere on how and what to do to cook up this ROM with the ppckitchen?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dunebuggydude11:
pre 2 is still NueROM 3 and u need to donate in order to use any of the NueRom 3 files. there is no pre 3 yet
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dunebuggydude11:
the ppc kitchen is very easy to use, just download it off of ppckitchen.org
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rhannahs19:
yup my mistake it is pre 2, i had a typo
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kashabrown:
Can't wait until I get home tonight - gonna try it out!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 760hacker:
Sorry to be ignorant but I have not used PPCKitchen eithr. I always used DCD's kitchens. What files would I need to download to cook a ROM for VZW? Also does this new no2chem rom have ICS working?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] SimpTheChimp:
Yep, I have the same question as 760Hacker.

Also, what is the difference between no2chem's ROM and dcd's ROM? Contain the same stuff? I.E. GPS? Voice Command? Dialer? Etc etc etc
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
Huge differences, Nue writes alot of his own tools, some work, some don't work with DCD, but they pretty much all work with Nue's roms. This particular build allows you to boot the phone with no camera and almost 30mb of free memory, or click a few times and quick reboot and have the camera back with 25mbish of ram available.

It also allows you to adjust the pagepool on the fly, and lots of other useful tools.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] symyn:
I have read the BuildOS thread, but it doesn't say anything about how to flash a NueRom, can anyone send a link on how to do this?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] n00bmanEXE:
You need to get the buildOS and put the files for the kitchen in the \Kictchen\nueROM\ folder

By the way, does any verizon user have problems with an always on roaming indicator? Mine is always on, but calls seem to work fine.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] symyn:
I have them in that folder, but what do I open?

Gotta love how easy the BuildNB.bat is...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] n00bmanEXE:
You open nueROM3_Selections.txt, in no2chem_Titan_Core with BuildOS. I know what you mean by BuildNB.... I had to figure this out myself!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] symyn:
That was it... LOL I think I have read GaMedic's thread like 40 times...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] indagroove:
New version is up now, which addresses the sleep of death..

nuerom.com
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
Bummer the Kitchen isn't up as I can't use the regular build.

I was wondering if this was an actual problem from the ROM or something I installed but I have not had the chance to check.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] indagroove:
Basekit is up now..
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
Does this address the problem... I would click Start, Settings, and then ActiveSync would popup and the phone would lock up.......

Is that the Sleep of Death that you are talking about?

Will download the new version and test it.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] calash:
The Sleep of Death was when your phone would go to sleep and never wake up, requiring a soft reset to get it working again.

I am loding the Basekit now. So far everything looks good.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 760hacker:
Where to place files from nueROM3TitanKitchen-6152-3pre3-spackr.rar

OK i have doenloaded the nueROM3TitanKitchen-6152-3pre3-spackr.rar. I have ppc kitchen all downloaded and installed. Where do i place the files from the nueROM3TitanKitchen-6152-3pre3-spackr.rar?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
Put the 6 extractred folders in a folder named "nueROM" in the Kitchens folder.

Copy nueROM3_selections.txt from the titan core folder to the projects folder.

Then run buildos.

Hope that makes sense, as I do not have it installed on my work computer, just going off memory ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Zenoran:
this newest release is flawless. fast as **** and who can argue with the option for more memory.. i dont really see myself going back to any other roms... kernel mods are just too crucial and useful for the titan to pass them up.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
Is anyone else having troubles with Bluetooth? I loaded the new rom, but at the same time loaded a bunch of new OEM's in to my build tool, I'm wondering if one of them is perhaps causing my issue. Basically Comm Manager has no BT listed, and if I go to settings connections, and go the BT icon, when I go in there to turn it on, it tells me no BT hardware was found.

I'm thinking I've loaded a driver that is causing havoc.

Anyone know of any OEM's that cause problems with the BT on the Titan?

My next step is to remove all the OEM's and just load the base and see what happens.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Zenoran:
not seeing any problems with bluetooth... listening to asot on my bluetooth headphones right now ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] symyn:
My BT is fine. Flashed from dcd 3.2.6 to pre3. Try reflashing?

I am still playing around with some things, but so far so good. I need to get VC up and running as it apparently didn't install.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
Ok, went back to just his base ROM and BT worked, so it was one of the OEM's I loaded. Guess it will be trial and error now to figure out which one is bad.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bmb2n:
Physical keyboard not suggesting any words

I'm having problem with the physical keyboard not suggesting any words as it did before with different build. The virtual keyboard is working properly as expected.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nitro66215:
hmm. and you went through settings, input, and word completion?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
I cooked a pre3 rom, using only the base options in the kitchen. I added everything to make M2D work, and wifi and bluetooth, everything is working fine for me. But I did load every program by cab instead of cooking it in.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bmb2n:
That only effects the virtual keyboard. The physcial keyboard does not seem to be effected by whatever option I choose.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nitro66215:
wierd. Mine seems to work fine. But I'm on DCD 3.2.6 with the latest Arcsoft MMS software. Guess I can't help. LOL
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bmb2n:
It works fine on other roms and offical kitchens. I'm just having problem with this bleeding edge built. Other than that, this ROM is rocking fast and stable so far.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] symyn:
Four things:

1. Having installed manilla2d the way herg's says with a fresh install of pre3 my RAM gets eaten up... maybe its cause I am syncing my last two weeks of email, but 2 - 3 MB left is not very good.

2. My email/txt/mms To: auto complete does not work, it works from the soft keyboard, but not the hard.

3. Activesync is always poping up my attachments, how do you turn this off, it is annoying.

4. When people call me the phone does not ring, I have changed the sounds and nothing works. Fixed this. MSVC changed the way my ringers work.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kashabrown:
I tried it - every time the phone sleeps it won't wake up...gonna flash back to 3.2.6 DCD:(
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] worldwidepmp:
you must be using pre 2 its been fixed since then. Try pre 3.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] joojoobee666:
The nueROM3 pre3 cooked ROM i made earlier today is probably the best ROM I have made for my titan. I can't recall ever being any happier. No bluetooth issues, SOD, and all the RAM, not to mention Camera if I want. What more can you ask for?

Thanks no2chem :D

BTW, the pagepool changer is off the hizzook!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
I really like this pre3 ROM, even with the quirks. It has me thinking about someone finding a way to have a toggle switch, like to make it high memory/M2D on one profile and low memory/camera/regular today screen on the other. Kinda like dual boot so we can have our cake and take a picture of it too!

Maybe it is possible, maybe not but I can dream can't I? :D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] froader:
Did you happen to cook with RDP.

I have been having bluetooth issues and think I've narrowed it down to the PPC kitchen OEM for RDP.

The OEM hasn't changed but the build has which is where I think the problem may be.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 1999TL:
It's the best rom. I agree now. I'll finally have memory for about a month. Getting the touch pro when it comes out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kashabrown:
I will try it - was very frustrating as the rom itself was incredible, now I have to wait until I get home (my work computer is locked out - no admin privies) - grrrrrrrrrrr
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
I've had a lot of issues with getting no2chem's pre3 rom to work with the PPCGeeks OEM files. I reflashed at least 10 times lastnight slowly removing and readding OEM's until I could get the phone to be stable. My issue appears to be with certain versions of Voice Command, everything on the phone would work perfect, until....you clicked on Start Settings, then the last program you had open would appear on the phone and it would lock up.

I can't seem to get the OEM for MS Office to work, I have the one where you have to select the individual apps one at a time, and they tell me files are missing, and a few other issues.

I like his rom, but I still think DCD's is more stable, tho with a whole lot less ram :(

Maybe DCD and no2chem can agree to share technology and we'll have a DCD rom with 33mb free.

Until then, I think I'll move back to DCD and some basic OEM's and try to me more productive at work rather than keep screwing with my phone.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] joojoobee666:
As a matter of fact, I did NOT. Whoops! I normally put it in, too. Did you try installing via cab after cooking to see if that had any effect?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] miguelfp1:
Is RDP the same as Remote Desktop? Nonetheless, I don't have it selected, and my Bluetooth isn't working... :confused:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] asenduk:
this thing with 10mb page pool is SMOKIN!!!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] froader:
I usually have RDP selected. I cannot get Bluetooth working if I cook with it. I have left it out and then installed the cab after and it works no prob.

I wonder if a different RDP oem would work.

Yes - RDP is Remote Desktop Protocol
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] omair2005:
how much ram is left with the pre-3 rom and m2d running?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
With 5mb page pool, weather and everything updated but no programs running, I idle at about 23.5 MB ram.

Opera can still eat all ram when browsing and shut down M2D. I still use oper mini for most browsing and IE when I need to, as I am not sold on opera mobile quite yet.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blazingwolf:
Without the camera installed correct?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] BillThyCat:
It would have to be without the camera as M2D is a huge memory hog.

While I like M2D, it's just to flaky for me at the moment, once it comes out of beta, I will probably run it.

Hopefully DCD or No2Chem will create an OEM where it's easier to install too, since it takes 15 minutes to install.....and 15 steps.

Maybe even a HHC type tool for it where you can choose your media player, browser and other configs rather than having to rename files and patch registry settings by hand.

Until then tho, I'll stick with the other tools that are out there.

BTC
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] aguas:
yeah im the same way. this dude is creating a customizer type tool for M2D, and it sounds promising (havent tested it), may want to follow that thread. but im stoked for both M2D to come outta beta and for no2chems official release.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] joojoobee666:
M2D is nice, but I just can't do it. 23.5MB free RAM isn't enough, and for me after a few hrs it would go down to 20MB. Not good, cuz iGO8 needs around 22MB to run and I use it all the time. (26MB if you want to text/make or take phone calls when iGO 8 is running).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
Yes, high memory mode. It takes me about one minute to disable touchflo, turn camera on and reset and re-boot. I still have about ~17 mb when I boot to use the camera, for as much as I use it this works just fine. Thats why I am dreaming of a toggle program to go one click away from kinda like a dual boot setup.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] studentjunk:
anybody know how to get rid of that touch scrolling? I'd like to be able to highlight multiple email messages again, and also be able to highlight in total commander.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] aguas:
if youre taking about FTouchFlo or FTouchSL, just delete the startup lnk in /windows/startup, and soft reset. you can also add total commander to the ignore list. if you want to highlite in messaging, either add it to the list or decrease the scroll timer. i like mine at about 30 ms.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] studentjunk:
thanks for the info, but I have neither program installed. I am talking about the finger scrolling that occurs by default in the nuerom releases.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] R.J.B:
Man! I had no idea you could do this by default! Awesome.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wallyw:
I love this ROM. I have a problem though. I ran the update PRL and now I get a Sprint error 67 cannot login to vision error and I'm permanently stuck in digital roaming.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wallyw:
Oops look like that was the update PRI app that I ran. My PRI shows 1.33_003. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get out of permanent roaming mode?

hard reset didn't work, neither did a reset through ##786#
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] playoff beard:
I did something similar - Link
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wasupwithuman:
Update...

So I let my phone idle all night, I woke up... and still with M2D I have 23MB ram.... YES!!! After a soft reset My phone idles at about 27-28 MB free with M2D running... I love this stuff.... Anyone else happy that they can actually write a text message without waiting for the characters to catch up???? Huge improvement in Landscape/Potrait switching....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wallyw:
thanks but I use sprint. My problem is I am roaming on verizon now. Is the update pri for verizon?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] LuBi:
I can't say enough good things about this release! I went from 70-78% used memory down to 48-51% used memory. I donated and I think I might just do it again, these releases make my Mogul usable!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 1999TL:
Oh hell yah. I might not even upgrade to the touch pro now. The phone works like how it should have when I first received it. It just works.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] JimSmith94:
I put pre 3 into the PPCGeeks kitchen and added 000_Shareware.rar and PPCkitchen_OEM.rar to nueROM3_Selections.txt in order to keep most or all of the apps that I flash. Everything works great, except that when I try to pair my Bluetooth headset, I get something like, "no Bluetooth hardware found".

Any ideas what to look for as the cause?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] miguelfp1:
I have the same problem. Some have found the cooking RDP (Remote Desktop) into the ROM causes this issue. However, I have the issue even though I don't use Remote Desktop or have it in my ROM.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 1999TL:
I posted this on ppcgeeks, but I might as well post it here too. Are you guys having issues with the suggestions when adding a contact in sms and email? in the "to:" section.

I thought my suggestions were working when using the keyboard, but apparently they are not. When I'm entering a contact recipient for text message or emails, the suggestions are not coming in.

If I use the regular soft keyboard, the suggestions come up like normal. If i use the PCM keyboard, I have to press delete for the suggestions to come up.

Nothing works If I use just the hardware keyboard. I hope we can figure out a fix for this.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] 760hacker:
What is your Pagepool?

I have been trying to experiment with this rom and adjusting the pagepool. I have it at 4 right now and at boot I have 26.37 MB RAM free with camera turned off. Where have you all experienced the best performance?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] miguelfp1:
yes, this is also an issue for me, and a confusing one too, something that at least I hadn't experienced before :confused:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kashabrown:
I am able to highlight in total commander, but HOW do you allow highlighting multiple messages in outlook? That is the ONLY bad thing about this rom - any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated. I have it running with an 8MB pagepool - this thing is SO fast and responsive and I still idle around 22-23 MB with all my stuff installed - just FANTASTIC.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] knives of ice:
is the only way to get this rom is by donating to the website and becoming a member? sorry, i have no problem doing that either but i can't find out for certain
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] banzaiwolfe:
Currently, yes. From what I understand, all of his preview builds are only for donators. Once he has a finalized version, that will be available to all.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] b0ris84:
he deserves it

for all the work that he's done he deserves a donation.