[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] low.flying.pigs:
There has never been any Windows CE device that ordinarily has Titlebar at the bottom, nor do screen grabs 1 and 5 referred to from post 2146 illustrate that.

Titlebar is the bar at the top, in this instance with Gps Cycle Computer in text.

Taskbar is the bar at the bottom, usually with a Windows symbol start button and other items.

All your previous screen grabs from your Medion S3857 in your posts 1989, 2006, 2016, 2018 showed the presence of the Titlebar at the top. Non show the Taskbar at the bottom. These are attached for ease of reference.

Some Windows CE devices have both Titlebar and Taskbar enabled, some one or the other (usually Titlebar in this circumstance), some neither. If present, both are configurable in many aspects.

The modified 4.12beta14 provided in post 2146 removes the Titlebar at the top, only where it would otherwise be displayed, as an enhancement of existing functionality as described therein. It would be expected the modified 4.12beta14 would result in screen grabs with Titlebar removed as per 4 and 8 therein based on your own aforementioned screen grabs that show it ordinarily present. It works exactly as stated and shown by the screen grabs in the Windows CE 5 Emulated Environment.

It would appear you have confused Titlebar and Taskbar.

Unfortunately, that has no direct relevance to original enquiry of willpom, already addressed thoroughly to the extent possible at time in post 2142. As detailed therein, further information will follow in due course.

Essentially, as a starting point in order to progress further and gain insight, it can be foreseen that as a minimum, details of Devices and Services, a full registry file, and a full file list are needed. It may become apparent once these are obtained further information is required.

Unfortunately, myself and Blaustein / Klaus can only test in the Windows CE 5 Emulator, since we currently do not have access to a S3857 device. The information required can only be readily derived from a S3857 device. The procedures and methods detailed and suggested, and the tools provided, work without issue in the Emulator / on other devices.

As long as the information is accurate, the method or methods by which this specific information is obtained is generally unimportant. Some methods have been previously suggested posts 2098 and 2108.

Alternate downloads of TaskMgr could be tried. The WM2003SE version was provided within Windows CE 5 Device Tools.zip as it works in the CE5 Emulated Environment whereas other versions did not, however a device would not necessarily exhibit the same behaviour. With Windows CE, and the extent of manufacturer customisation possible, coupled with other considerations, in brief, this is not necessarily a simplistic area. Furthermore, it is also important to be aware of any dependency issues.

If needs be, as a potential fail safe, it should still be possible to obtain at least the full registry file, full file list, and partial services information using the CERegEdit and Command Line method as detailed in 2108 which would be better than nothing.

Effort of some considerable complexity and difficulty has already been expended. To not therefore at least attempt these comparatively simplistic aspects in attempt to obtain some basic information with which to work, makes little sense given what has already been done. Although not impossible, it would not appear likely implementation can be achieved without further specific information, however, with the required information, if all of what will ultimately be needed can be obtained, which in itself is unknown at this stage, the likelihood is fairly reasonable.

Further information to be added.

low.flying.pigs