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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] psi78:
Power saving mode can be enabled

in quick settings

or Settings/battery/battery saver and performance/extreme power saver

Should be possible to enable, don't know why it would be missing for you, an additional driver or patch isn't needed.

Regarding airplane mode, i meant it in the way to turn off Wifi overnight instead of switching the tablet off, to keep the tablet in a functioning state and avoid reoccurring of the cpu bug after a reboot. You can keep the tablet all the time in flight mode and just diasble Wlan over night too,same effect i guess.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] tweebs:
Thanks, this worked for me as well.

I used kingo root to get temporary root access on the latest FireOS build and followed pretty much what you have written here.

I definitely find the tablet more useable that the last FireOS build, YouTube and Netflix work great. The camera doesn't seem to work however.

It's a shame we have to jump through so many hoops to reclaim older hardware but I'm glad this tablet won't end up in the trash pile for a little longer.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] psi78:
Does watching something in Netflix work longer than half an hour for you on this LOS16 ROM?

I always got errors in the Netflix app when watching something over half an hour or so, last year at least (so i downgraded to LOS 12.1 again).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Forron:
I have a similar problem with the super display app. I use my tablet as mobile second screen. I have a hunch that it might be a RAM problem.

I would love to help. I might be a waste of time, because i never build a custom rom.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] mayur.3.92:
To the users of this rom, can this ROM be used as a daily driver?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
If you can cope with the missing camera support, definitely yes.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] mayur.3.92:
Thats it rest all works? Like video, YT etc?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
I don't use it very much for advanced Multimedia stuff. Basically the tablet is a client for my local media server and works flawless for this use case and the occasional game or internet surfing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] psi78:
YouTube app has problems with FullHD scaling from what i've heard, several posts in this thread regarding that.

Other streaming apps like Netflix and i think also Disney or Hulu work for only like half an hour, then an error occurs. I think there's an OMX driver problem with a memory leak.

Viewing videos/streaming in a browser may work fine (?).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] mayur.3.92:
Edit : messed up quotes
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] mayur.3.92:
Thanks for your responses, appreciate it.

If the issue is with streaming then i will have to wait since the tablets only purpose is for multimedia usage primarily youtube.

I guess insta or tiktok also dont work right?

Last but not least can someone try this app and see if it works : https://github.com/libre-tube/LibreTube
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] psi78:
Instagram and TikTok should work i think
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] mayur.3.92:
Not confirmed right...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
The $40 64mb refurb is back in stock at woot

woot .com/offers/amazon-fire-hd-10-2017-7th-gen-1

Hopefully they will get more of the $25 in stock this summer and keep this rom going/updated

My only real problem left is this rom seems to spontaneously reboot every other day.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] freonchill:
Having issues with WiFi on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks (at different locations).

I've seen the various posts in the topic about the issues others are having.

I'll wait to see if anyone has any potential fixes, if not, I'll go back to lineage 14...

Thanks all.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] LearnEnglish:
Just download fireOS .bin and rename it to .zip then you can flash it through TWRP recovery
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] badbob001:
Is the GPU supported on any version of LineageOS for suez? When I had it installed, playing videos in VLC was a very poor experience but it was fine after going back to stock. I'm guessing the LineageOS versions do not fully support suez's GPU.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Legitsu:
*crickets*
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] psi78:
not that i know of, only cpu rendering
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
I guess it is safe to assume this ROM has been abandoned, damn shame. I just wanna enjoy my tablet with a closer to stock android rom without any bugs. It sucks you can't stream anything in 1080p without the video ****ing up and zooming in to the top left corner. Having to watch youtube in 360p is not my idea of fun.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
Unfortunately there are no alternative roms for this device. OK, it's quite old, but for some use cases it would still do a good job.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Shack70:
I went back to stock Amazon rom, installed Magisk 25.2, installed Nova launcher, and used root to disable the Amazon launcher. After turning off a bunch of unwanted junk and installing Google Store using Fire Toolbox it runs pretty smooth. Downside is some apps won't work because it's older version of android under the hood.

I mainly watch videos, social media and a little web surfing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
To be sure: Switching back to Amazon rom means just downloading the FireOS image, renaming it to *zip and flashing in TWRP (probably only after a wipe)? Magisk install is done without any special tricks? And could you point to some guide how to get rid of the Amazon stuff?

I also consider switching back...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] dcellini21:
That is correct. I tend to install the latest version of Magisk for Android 5.1 (25.2) by patching the boot image in the Fire OS image and compressing it again. With older versions of Magisk like 24.0 you can still flash the APK renamed to a zip file. You can use this post on the forum to find system packages to disable once you're in the OS. I ended up going back to Fire OS myself mainly because it is the only way to get DRM-protected streaming apps to work reliably, but also for stability reasons.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Shack70:
I followed this: https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-testing-suez-lineage-16-0-05-july-2022.4232785/post-87638293

I used Fire Toolbox to turn off the stuff I didn't want and install Google. Once Nova launcher was installed I used a terminal program to make Nova the default launcher using SU and the commands: pm enable com.teslacoilsw.launcher and pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher as outlined here: https://xdaforums.com/t/successfully-changed-launcher-to-nova-fire-hd-10-2017-5-6-0-0.3744067/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] coolcorner:
I installed:

1. LOS 16.0

2. Ran the script

3. Nikapps

Once booted I followed the steps in here, but I still see the CPU, all cores are running full (which causes the device playback to stutter), I rarely see CPU 2/3 go down, they stay "stopped" after the reboot for a bit and then they go high again (even with battery saver mode).

Do we have a fix/workaround for this problem? If we can control the cores by rooting and any apps?

Edit: Another issue that I have observed is the tablet either goes into deep sleep and unable to wake up or just shuts down after long period of not using it. Only way to boot it up is with long press. Any fix for this?

I tried the LOS 14.1 as well, where the OS is quite smooth, there were other issues like Ext SD card, video playback etc. I tried flashing the fixes which were mentioned in the thread, but to no avail, they never worked for me. I am not sure if I was using the right fixes/zip files, as there are many in that thread.

If any of you faced similar issues and were able to fix them, please share your fixes.

Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
No work around for the problem, this rom (and device) is seemingly not going to be getting any further development. your best bet is either buy a newer device (if you need a newer android version) or go back to stock if you need 100% reliability.

Even if there was a work around for the cpu problem, there is still the issue with video playback via youtube/other apps that cause the video to be extremely zoomed in and only the upper left hand corner be visible.

I would personally suggest going back to stock rom, root it, install google apps, get a new launcher, and remove all amazon related apps. Thats what I did and its been perfect ever since.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Jidis:
Hi all,

I don't mean to sound like I'm doubting that statement, but for clarification, does it mean there's NO version of LOS (or anything) which will get an HD10 Suez "Amazon free" without missing or crippled functionality? Seems like there's a lot of older discussions on it which didn't end in it being impossible. I don't have any real problem with running previous versions of stuff (within reason) and am still doing so on many devices here.

Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
I guess it's not technically impossible (as there are working LOS versions), but there is nobody working on them anymore to fix the remaining bugs.

E.g. the even older LOS version (I guess it was 12.0) had a working camera, so it should be theoretically possible, but this was never fixed in 16.0.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Jidis:
Thanks @Nosepull !

If anybody knows which one didn't have any major flaws and/or what the downsides to running one from a couple versions back might be, I'd be interested, especially if it's someone who chose to do that already and has been using it.

I'm still trying to catch up on this stuff again before I try anything, but if that LOS isn't the only game in town and there's another solid one, it wouldn't make much difference to me.

Much Appreciated!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] zaooza:
I'm sorry, but can you quickly guide me how to do it please. I installed LOS several years ago and now (with no progress with LOS 16) I would like to go back to stock, debloat and use it till the end of times. I found how to return the stock and root it. What apps should I remove and what type of gapps I need to download?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
Read posts #858 and post #859 to get somewhat of an idea. I also used Fire Toolbox. I don't remember everything I did so giving a step by step is not something I am willing to do, sorry.

there are also links in those posts to other posts that also talk about debloating/deamazoning the stock rom. Basically find a new launcher, disable all the amazon apps, install gapps via opengapps zip file or fire toolbox and download whatever replacement apps you need via the playstore. Not really that difficult, just gotta read.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Jidis:
zaooza - If you don't mind me asking, what were your particular issues with LOS that make you want to leave?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
this tablet is back on amazon's woot website for $25 (64gb model is $40)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017 Model)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017 Model)

electronics.woot.com

refurb but mine was almost like new except very faint brush scratches on the screen which a screen protector would make disappear

shame this rom isn't updated, maybe someone can send a dev one of the $25 tablets, I love the huge screen
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
I mean at this point the device is 6, going on 7 years old.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
Well counterpoint, if you know of another 10+ inch tablet for $25 like new with enough ram and cpu like suez to run even the newest android definitely let me know.

Sure for $100 you can get a 2020 10 inch but why? Actually I am not sure you can get a 10 inch for $100, I don't see any.

Amazon keeps rolling out the $25 refurbs, if they go a year without doing it, well then I guess it's not worth it anymore.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Jidis:
Mine is 100% usable today, especially after I recently restored it and cleared some mess somebody sent it that was making it run like a slug and randomly freeze. The only thing that keeps me from doing more than just reading or watching YouTubes on it is the fact that it is afterall a tablet and I despise 1-finger typing and "virtual" input devices. Just wish I could totally free it from the whole Amazon thing, without feeling like I simply hid it from myself and plastered a bunch of band-aids over it. :(
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] savvyyy:
Hi, giving away my Suez. If any dev need it let me know. UK based. Cheers
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] fowLee:
/done..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
I keep forgetting to ask if anyone has ever come up with a way to make the hidden SSID for wifi work via prop hack or any other tweak

Maybe a trick borrowed from another rom with similar problem

It's the only device on my network that needs the SSID broadcast so that's annoyingly unfortunate
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
Factory refurb back in stock again today 2023-10-31 at Woot for $25 with free shipping for prime

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

computers.woot.com

Many colors too, this tablet isn't going away, we need to get one into the hands of a dev willing to update this rom or compile the next one
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] autobulb:
This is what I did and it's working as well as this crappy little device can work. But I have one lingering problem remaining.

Trying to use the latest Youtube Vanced supported on that device, the play store flags it as too old and forces you to update it. Not via auto-update but it prevents you from using the app saying the version is out of date and you can't access the app because of that screen.

I haven't been able to find a modified version of the latest supported Youtube for this OS, so that it doesn't lock me out for being too old, but at the same time I don't want ads like Vanced or Revanced.

Any tips?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
I use the regular youtube app and it does the same thing, I go to the apps section in settings and clear data for the youtube app before opening the app and it works until you close and reopen it so you have to do it everytime.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] autobulb:
I found a reasonable solution that gave this tablet new life!

Newpipe is an alternative Youtube client that is lightweight and has built in ad-block. Works really well on this crummy tablet. Only drawback is that you cannot login to your Youtube account (although it may be possible with some extra work.) You can however export your subscriptions from your account and import them into the app.

But for my purposes it works extremely well. I was thinking of just donating/junking this tablet but now it will last at least another year or so.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] terry98:
What I found to work best for this tablet is to unlock it to install twrp but keep latest stock fireos (yes, it is android 5.1), after that completely debloated using the fire hd toolbox (but keeping the fire launcher, I had problems trying to remove it), don´t install google service and use it like aosp, I installed F-Droid and with it aurora store and have been using it like that, is really fast, the mayor downside is app support but you can find some that works. Here are some of the apps I´m using:

- Pipepide - youtube client

- MuPDF - PDF Viewer

- Librera - epub, azw, etc reader

- Kotatsu - manga reader

- Fennec - web browser

- ViMusic - Youtube Music client

- Magisk for root suport

- I also installed microg for some google services support but I don't It does much as the rom does not have signature spoof support.

- I installed Freezeyou to disable F-droid which for some reason stays working in the background.

These apps can be found in F-droid mostly, Aurora store can be used to install apps from playstore but remember the low android 5 compatibility.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Korin67:
You have root privilege, you can disable fire launcher by:

pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher

I am using my suez almost the same as yours. I have uninstalled F-Droid though. I only have aurora store.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Pikatch:
When will @ggow come back? This tablet has so much potential, but it's being sabotaged by glitches and infrequent updates. I want you to come back as soon as possible...🥲
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
This device is 6-7 years old now, well past its usefulness and Im fairly certain it would take a team of guys working to get newer versions of android to even boot on this hardware. Do what I did, put it back to stock while keeping root and then remove all the amazon stuff and just use the device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
For everyone who keeps saying "it's old"

No it is not. It has a great CPU, plenty of ram for modern android and a real 1920x1080 screen with dedicated GPU.

But most importantly, Amazon keeps producing factory quality refurbs for $25 or less

today Thursday 2024 1/4 it is once again on Woot with free shipping for Amazon prime customers (because Amazon owns woot)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

computers.woot.com

https://computers.woot.com/offers/amazon-fire-hd-10-2017-7th-gen-11

and sometimes there is a discount code for woot so check coupon sites, I got mine for $20 shipped from woot

So what we need to do if ggow has given up and moved on, is find another dev who has more time and is more interested and send them one of these tablets.

I think wifi (and bluetooth) driver stability might be the priorities, mine often crashes and after several crashes the tablet will self-reboot.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Pikatch:
Considering that @ggow is concentrating on raising children, I don't really want to say anything like this, but since there has been no progress in the development of this ROM for over a year and a half, I'm asking other developers to help. I think you need to look for it. I would also like to point out that the Fire HD 8, which is currently one generation later, is compatible with Android 13.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Pikatch:
We have initiated activities to find other developers for this device. See the thread in the link below.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
just a community PSA they are back in stock yet again (after selling out last week)

today Monday 2024 1/8

all three colors, black blue or red are available for $25 with free shipping if you have amazon prime

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

computers.woot.com

https://computers.woot.com/offers/amazon-fire-hd-10-2017-7th-gen-12

these are typically very high quality refurbs because it is done by amazon themselves and not some 3rd party vendor - mine did not have a single scratch and the battery is going fine for years now

will cross-post to the other thread
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
community PSA that these Amazon refurbished tablets are once again back in stock at Woot (an amazon company) for $25 shipped if you have prime

Tuesday 2024 January 23rd

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

computers.woot.com

https://computers.woot.com/offers/amazon-fire-hd-10-2017-7th-gen-14
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] puntoazul:
Thanks for creating and cooking this ROM.

This rom renewed my amazon HD10 7th
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
Saturday February 17th 2024 Woot has the black 32gb back in stock for $25 shipped

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

computers.woot.com
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ABC00012345:
Does SD card work? ( Work )

And does hardware acceleration now work better? 😞 ( good enough 🤔)

Also does encryption work? (No)

Does it really support opengl 3.1

In the preferences of the hpu it should support it but on this is I don't know if it really does

In some apps it says 3.1 but for example in Roblox it says your device will soon not longer supported due to opengl es 2.0 which I doesn't understand and also in some other games using opengl I encounter graphic glitches and more for example in "the baby in yellow" I doesn't know btw if it uses gl 3.1 or 3

And also the overheating is a problem, but I fix this by setting CPU governor to for example powersave if I doesn't need it.

It would be nice if some one answer who also has the ROM if he also has graphic errors in some games.

I'm really the only one, nah? 🥺

There is a little bit work on the rom
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] moriel5:
Regarding OpenGL, out is not supported at all, as most mobile SoCs do not support OpenGL, but rather a more limited version of it called OpenGL ES, and that is what should be at 3.1 (latest is 3.2, OpenGL is at 4.6).

I believe it should be possible to check what it actually supports (down to the individual features), if we could get the OpenGL ES test suite packages in an Android APK.

Regarding overheating, I would also recommend adding a copper (or preferably, silver, however it needs to be at least 97% purity) plate as a heatsink if there is space, and some thermal paste, which should theoretically assist.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
Please forgive the frequent posts about this but that's actually my point I'm making, how often the "factory refurb" is still available for only $25

So once again Friday February 23rd 2024 several colors are available for $25 shipped at Woot (they sell out within 24 hours each time)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

computers.woot.com

This tablet is not going away, I'd love Android 11 if they can find another tablet with the same chipset for drivers but I'll definitely settle for stabilizing this Android 9 which is about 90% great

Devs if you are out there and willing be sure to speak up so someone can ship you one of these
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ABC00012345:
I prefer to bring out android 11 for this tablet just for testing , but that will be a very very big thing.

It will almost cannot run on the cpu
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] moriel5:
Personally, I would love seeing PostMarketOS ported over, for a proper Linux experience (eventually).

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ABC00012345:
A nice idea would be Linux on this tablet for example Ubuntu or a lite Linux version

That should it run cleanly I think, better than android 11
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] moriel5:
It... depends.

Not every GUI is as light as you would think.

And while you mentioned Ubuntu, which could certainly be great, I mentioned PostMarketOS specifically since the community behind it also works on mainlining the kernel and the drivers, which may or may not happen with Ubuntu (Ubuntu-based distros for consumer ARM devices tend to rely upon shims much more).

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