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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] ekerbuddyeker:
So I went ahead and bought the s21 ultra. I'm coming from the N9860 HK Snapdragon version and I got fed up with the fact that we are still on the November update running Android 10.

I purchased the new s21 ultra snapdragon G-9980 (also HK Snapdragon). In my view, while it's a nice device, the bottom line is, there's hardly any difference between this device and the note 20 ultra except for the fact that the screen is smaller which causes a whole number of display compromises. For example picture-in-picture is basically unusable when compared to the note 20. It's a longer and slimmer device which means that they had to resize the way text is shown and often it is not nearly as pleasant to look at as it is on the note. Just take a look at the weather clock widget. Or the fact that folders are now only 3 items wide (not 4). Using Netflix you really notice the smaller size difference, and the curves, and it reduces the immersive nature of viewing video. The sound in my opinion is not as good on the note 20. Its.not as loud on speakerphone either. I certainly don't notice any difference in speed. And I'm so used to the square shape that I feel like I'm using just another Android device, as opposed to the note 20 ultra which is so unique. Yes the battery life and camera are marginally better (and yes the fingerprint reader is definitely better for me) but at the end of the day the note was good enough for my purposes.

So if you're on the fence and thinking about upgrading make sure you're able to return the device if you don't like it and don't sell your note 20 too fast!

Of course this is only after a day or two of use and maybe I will get used to it! Bit so far I'm already missing my note!

Update: So FINALLY the Note 20.Ultra n9860 got the android 11 update. Unfortunately what I thought are the weird layout issues on the s21 are bundled into the new android 11 update ! So the devices are now more similar than ever, except the size and shapes. What is interesting is the new 'enhanced processing' option... I tested both devices with this setting side by side (they are both snapdragon) and weirdly, the note 20 is actually faster! It's probably less efficient, but nevertheless interesting.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] fjorger:
Couldn't agree with you more.

The only thing good/plus on the S21 ultra? The ability to smoothly go from 1x to 3x then to 10x, thanks to the extra camera, other than that, no way. Especially when the rip features like the Micro SD Card slot. When I thought, when are they stopping the ”nonsense” hybrid slot Bellshill... ? They just sort out the problem by removing it altogether.

Dam Samsung... 🤮

By the way, Android 11 and One UI 3.0 is now rolling out on my 9860 since today lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] tiho5:
I agree. The shape of the screen is never going to suit me after I've used a note phone. I hope they never stop making the note series.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] fjorger:
Yep, so true.

Unfortunately, all points out to Note 20 Ultra being the last Note.

It's just Samsung being greedy 😒, trying to shift traditional Note users to the latest Foldable trend (More ways to justify the crazy price jump every time they launch a new phone).

In my humble opinion, I will never shift to a Foldable phone until their screen gets a real glass feel (and not easily scratched).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] freezingpoint:
I have both and I'm pretty satisfied with my s21 ultra. Have to admit that it's easier to hold the s21 ultra though. At the end of the day it's to each his own but I'm using both phones anyway.

I'd say if you don't have a note 20 ultra and you're deciding whether it's this or s21 ultra, I'd choose s21 ultra.

Either way you can't go wrong that's for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
The rounded display corners puke me out.

No way. Sick of the lame CRT retro look.

Samsung and Android have given me little valid reasons to leave my 10+/Pie platform and plenty of good reasons not to.

Samsung turning out half baked, high dollar phones in an economic recession. Idiots.

Android's scope storage and obsession with security is laughable.

Google its self is the biggest security risk.

Overlays and critical tools are gone starting in Q.

Without those tools security and troubleshooting unrooted phones becomes an even worse guessing game than it was with Pie. Key apps are now useless.

Puny Google.

Put these failed concepts together and you have a big $loppy me$$.

No.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] tiho5:
The logic points that way, I agree. However, I think that this game is not going to play well for Samsung. Because there are two types of phone use:

- using a phone with one hand

- using her phone with two hands

Obviously the foldable phones are the choice for the second type of use.

On the other hand I like using my phone with one hand most of the time. Foldable phones allow you this type of use, but on a smaller limited screen. Therefore I would never use a foldable phone until the size of the unfolded(single) screen becomes as large as the size of the screen of the today's Note Ultra phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
Samsung has sunk huge sums of money and resources into the Fold series R&D and limited (lmao) production runs. Poor sales,multiple and many failures. Samsung neglected their much more lucrative product lines, idiots.

They rolled the dice with the Fold, again and again, and keep landing nothing but snake eyes.

Like a bad gambler they're now into it deep and being driven by the demon named Hope.

Luck done left the house and Hope's not far behind. Bah-ha-ha-ha, pathetic.

No water or dust proofing, no SD card, and a fold screen guarenteed to fail that is impossible to fully protect. Betaware at the best.

A real masterpiece.

Meanwhile during a global recession their key product lines are drastically rising in price with not much bang for the buck.

They really think the masses will buy a new expensive flagship phone every year especially if they didn't get a great experience?

Add to that Samsung support is some of the worst on the planet.

The 10+ was Samsung's last great flagship phone. Pie was Android's last good OS.

No signs either are cognizant of their blunders but consumers vote with their wallets.

No rigging this vote*...

*Not that they didn't try. Look at all the glowing reviews for the Folds when they first came out.

Not one negative one.

Same for Q. Google stopped posting their OS version breakdown because users hate 10 and 11.

I call bs...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] evnStevn:
Thanks for the tip on the very few differences on the s21 ultra & "my beast"! A couple of the online reviewers were saying similar, but glad to learn of a "hands-on" review from the troops in the XDA Army? So, I'll go back to re-read, but saw you finally got your slice of the buttery bread

Android 11 + One UI 3.0h-No...you kept your beast, the n20u1?

Good read, bruh, ty for sharing!👍
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Datboi459:
Yeah. I agree. If they would have had SD card support then i would have just got that instead of the Note 20 Ultra. I do like the square screen design on the note though. The Screen technology is also MUCH nicer than what we have with the Note. The Colors look much better. It is also alot brighter. The battery in the S21 Ultra also is alot more efficient thanks to the new panel in the S21 Ultra as well.

With that said i do absolutely love my Note 20 Ultra. I just think Samsung should have put a much larger battery in it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] znel52:
No SD Card, no built in SPen holder is enough for me. Have to have a big ugly case that the pen snaps in the side of. No thanks. Also prefer the less rounded look of the Note.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] evnStevn:
Just saw this same set-up you described at a Verizon store near me recently. Awkward, and that combo, the wannabe S-Pen+Samsung Case you get to purchase yourself along with the 25w fast charger, if desired? SERIOUSLY, could this be true?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] KingVekxin:
Honestly I couldn't and wouldn't get the s21 ultra because I don't wanna be another few dollars that convinces samsung to ditch the note series in favor of anything else.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VioNeo:
Thanks, feeling better now
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VioNeo:
Right to the point
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VICosPhi:
So I got S21 ultra because only because there was a great discount + combo offer on the S7+ tab. The only advantages are

- slightly better low light camera performance

- 3x optical zoom dedicated camera, 10x optical zoom vs 5x on Note 20 series

- slightly better display in terms of color accuracy and brightness

- Fingerprint sensor is a little bigger so unlocking is more accurate

- Rounded corners make it easier to hold in hand vs N20U (but narrower screen takes away from the immersive experience you get on N20U)

This S21 Ultra however is a THICCC boi and feels a lot heavier than N20 Ultra. It is like going back to a 4 year old brick phone. I am all for a bigger battery but in this case the extra weight doesn't really double your battery(despite of lack of S-pen), but you do get longer runtime than N20U obviously. The increased thickness doesn't make sense when microSD and MST being removed. This thing runs warm to hot all the time, that Snapdragon 888 is like a dragon breathing fire and probably have worse battery wear over time lol. N20U runs very cool.

I switched back to Note 20U after using S21U for a week as it is a downgrade when compared to N20U. Got Samsung Care Plus on N20U for long term use in case this turns out to be the last Note phone, and gonna keep S21U as a spare and eventually trade it in to get next Note(hopefully).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] evnStevn:
Datz a good call, bruh.👍🤓👍Didn't the 512gb s21 ultra come stock with less than 12 gb ram too? No 25w fast charger in the box, no micro SD slot, no s-pen in the box, as it's a "credits" deal with a certain case you select, or buy with your credits separately with a case that it won't attach itself to? Did I get most of that right? smh

Did you return your s21 ultra 5G then?🤔
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VICosPhi:
Yeah, pretty much. They give you a coupon code to use on accessories but no charging brick or earphones are included.

It does come with 16GB RAM (512GB model) but way too many other compromises. NO eSIM support either in USA despite them advertising it on S21U product page (removed now), Samsung went out of the way to disable it! I still have the S21U, if I return it then I have to also return S7+ tab so I chose to keep it, but only as a backup phone to N20U.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
You can get a Samsung fast charging 25w brick and cable for $20 now. Just got one.

No SD card and those lame round corners are a complete buzz kill for me though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VICosPhi:
I got one of those GaN PD chargers and has been working well for me. It has two USB-C ports too so helps with charging the tablet. Yeah, the rounded corners make it look like a vintage CRT and videos don't look immersive at all. Not good for reading websites as well...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] evnStevn:
Understood...I need an updated tablet, as I'm still rocking this 'ole Lenovo tab 2A7-20F! smh

I tell everybody I can time travel with it because it moves so slowly...can't even enjoy looking at po$n with it! 🥱lol (and that's about as bad as it can get, right)?!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] revized:
got the 20ultra snapdragon and your completely right, extremely little difference between note 10+, and even I would say less quality now :( one issue after the next, one that is super annoying is this phone has after every call a 2-5 seconds lag! after hang up call phone screen is like duuuuh now, got replacements they all do the same thing, so stats on paper are showing improvement, yet really since the note10+ quality is going down. wow haven't see this since the note 2, so most definitely going to never think about 'upgrading' any more to get the 'next lamest thing' lol

I think once a person pays the huge amount of money for the phone they just take it, totally just decide to work on ignoring the plain and obvious big downsides and go on with it like purchasing a new car that they are totally not happy with. how sad spammy has actually succumbed to such weak products now and in reality void stats.

in my personal opinion, spammy has just completely given himself over to the controlling money hungry freaks that must have your every online move on file to sell you something you don't want and THAT is causing all the annoying issues.

hey spammy how about you remove the SD card and s pen so we have more room to add some lag 😂

L@@K T-Mobile's all new 5g stats are in!!!

negitve 10 stars for spam 👎
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
So if buying either a 10+ vs a 20U Snapdragon variant you would go with the 10+?

Lol, don't give all the lag credit to Spammy as Gookill did their best to gum up the works🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] joancolmenares:
Last November I got my Note 20 ultra 4G, then in february I switched over to S21 Ultra.. Totally different device. S series is definitely for the S series lovers, I didnt like the bezels on the screen, WAY HEAVIER device. Camera was pretty cool, BUT the 100x zoom is BS, there';s no stable photo coming out of that. I had the Spen case from Samsung and it made the device even bulkier. It's a great device, dont get me wrong, but I feel the Note is more elegant and has quite few more tricks up its sleeve. Im now using a Note 20 Ultra 5G and do not complain at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kendive:
I had the S21 Ultra for a couple of days could not stand that POS. got a refund on it. When back to my Note 10 +. The 10+ blows it away. I could care less about 5G it's just not there yet. They have a long way to go to make it worth having a 5G device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
I was thinking about getting a 20 Ultra but not really feeling good with Q. If the S21 caused you to go back the 10+, not a good sign.

I'm now leaning towards getting a second 10+.

The 10+ 512gb is a solid performer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kendive:
I'm thinking about doing away from the Sammy's completely. I like the Moto line up. They also have better radios in them.

I also would not ever own a phone that does not have an SD Card Slot. That's BS they are removing them.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Jostian:
Reason I went back to a Note 20 Ultra from S21 Ultra was 3 things, the integrated SPen (just so much more convenient) the fact that the Note 10 Ultra doesn't upscale it's zoom camera output like the S21 Ultra (10mp up to 12mp on both the 3x and 10x cameras) was easy to see the difference in IQ and the Note 20U's 5x is very solid. And no Micro SD slot. SoT with the S21U was a little better but no that much, especially after taking my N20U, I get 7 to 8 hrs SoT and 2 toe days between charges and with the S21U I got 8 to 9 hrs SoT and similar time between charges.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Babydollll:
I heard today on Twitter (not the most reliable place, I agree but...) two people that are pretty well known on tech Twitter said basically the same thing: there may be more Note series phones (Jason C (iJS) and Ice Universe were the ones talking about it.... I hope it's true.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
Just spotted this🤣

I for one are getting tired of Samsung jerking us around as well as punching out inferior, high priced duds that are failing left and right.

Samsung, customer loyalty is a privilege not a given. It's earned. As is the wrath of burnt former customers. Maybe coming real soon... Suck Famsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] adj998:
I saw that too lol I wonder if it means that the note 20 will be worth more now that they won't make them anymore
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kendive:
Phones don't make you money... They fall in price no matter what.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
Bought another new N10+ over a month ago for $800, so some people are making money🤣

Factory sealed desirable devices can hold their value somewhat.

That's how much I dislike the 2021 releases, Android 11/12 and my lack of optimism for the 2022 releases. I may just replace batteries and chill for a few years. My original 2 yo N10+ looks and runs like new.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kendive:
I would never pay 800 for a Note 10 +. LOL I moved over to Moto. F Sammy...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kendive:
I would never buy a phone that does not support an SD Card Slot... No way never. If you all hate the UI on the Note 20 Ultra so bad just root the thing and run custom roms.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
Brand new and mint. Samsung's UI is my favorite interface. My decision was calculated based among other things the 10+'s near perfect color rendering which is important to me. All the newer Android variable rate displays still score below it in color rendering.

My oldest one has had one battery replacement. It's been heavily used and it's in perfect condition with no other repairs.

No detectable display degradation with ScreenTest.

Current OS load is over 1.5 years old, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. Good battery life 7-13%@hr SOT.

I avoid the mess that is Android 11/12 and have two 1-1.5tb fast dual drive hand held PCs.

Both will be in use for at least 2-3+ years.

It will take that long for Google and its 3rd party software developers to straighten out the mess that is scoped storage. By then the 5G and variable refresh rate display issues will be hopefully hashed out as well.

So yeah, I'm betting on a track record of failures with a proven work horse.

2021 was a disaster for Samsung and Google.

2022 isn't looking any better especially for Android.

At the best maybe something in August of next year. I would wait at least 6 months for it to be shaken out and priced down before buying. I'll likely blow it off anyway.

I'm out of the loop...

Manufacturers and Google hate this. As Jane Mansfield liked to say... don't fk em if their junk is a joke🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Phredeee:
My TMo Note 10+ 5G is on 12.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] johniii:
Coming from s9plus the s21 ultra 5g was a nice upgrade. Miss the SD card but wasn't a deal breaker. I traded it in and got $600 for the old phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] blackhawk:
Any downsides that you're noticing compared to 10 or 11?
[Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Errazitech:
Hello

my phone was bricked , i did unbrick it with Eng firmware then i find out that imei is null so i fix it with Maui META tool and upgrade to latest china version , now i am trying to unlock my bootloader to switch back to global , buy i have no signal ! i already check the hardware and it's all good

i read something about flashing persist.img but i can't find method to do it , any help is appreciated, thanks
[Moto G Stylus (Moto G Pro) Questions & Answers] 2clacaze:
Metro variant on latest OTA

OEM unlocked

flashed twrp.img

installed magisk 21.4.zip

dog got in confrontation with phone in my hand and in twrp I hit a bunch of crap.

now i have brick -- no power on, no usb trigger, no vol dn+power....nothing

adb and fastboot dont see it.

possibilities....may have restored the SELinux

May have selected the slot b

anything else in twrp advanced tab......

android and linux knowledge at beginner to intermediate levels if im honest

what are my options?
[Moto G Stylus (Moto G Pro) Questions & Answers] JimmyJurner:
On the computer Under device manager does anything pop up when phone is plugged in?
[Moto G Stylus (Moto G Pro) Questions & Answers] 2clacaze:
nothimg
[Moto G Stylus (Moto G Pro) Questions & Answers] JimmyJurner:
Not even showing this : Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008????
[Moto G Stylus (Moto G Pro) Questions & Answers] 2clacaze:
Not a thing under devices, removable our otherwise
[Moto G Stylus (Moto G Pro) Questions & Answers] bubbyj:
You said that it won't power on? Correct? "No power on".. I'm assuming that's what you meant.

If that's the case, it's obvious why nothing shows up when you connect to the computer. I mean, it sounds like you have a fried unit.

I'm not even sure how you could do that in twrp. Lol.

The only phone I've ever had that wouldn't power on, was due to water damage (sweat damage actually). Which I'm still fired up about. I had a pixel 3a. Just 6 months old. Had a case on it.. was walking and talking to my niece, and pouring sweat as I walked/hiked. We hung up, and I noticed I had phantom touches all over the screen. I wiped the phone down, powered it down, sat it in rice for 12 hours. Turned it back on, and it was worse than before. So many phantom touches that I couldnt even power it down. Then volume down and power wouldn't take me to recovery so I could power it off.

I literally just had to sit there for 2 hours as it fried itself alive from water damage. Next morning, I noticed no warming on quick charge. No screen paper. No vibe on startup. Plugged into laptop, nothing registered.

It wasn't bricked. It was gone.

I know it's not a waterproofed phone. But sweat? Destroying a $400 phone? Give me an effin break.

Luckily, I pay my verizon bill with mastercard.. and all mastercard users (even debit cards) have phone insurance built into it. I called them, submitted the paperwork. (Copy of phone bill, copy of bank statement showing I used the mastercard, and a copy of the estimate showing it was a total loss. $349). The deductible was $50.. so 4 business days later, they deposited $299.99 in my account. And I bought the g stylus with it. And when I went to Walmart to buy it, it wouldn't ring up. It was supposed to be $299.99. I found a price match of $249.99. and when he was trying to ring it u, it wouldn't show up on their system. They did a search for it on their website, and he didn't know the difference between a g stylus and a g fast. I got it for $129.99. unlocked. (Was $179.99 on the website, and I had found a 50 off price match for the 299 priced phone earlier, so they gave me the 50 off 179.99. so needless to say -- I got a heckuva deal.

The g stylus is basically a pixel 3a. Except a bigger screen, better battery, and a stylus. The 665 actually performs better on multi ore than the 670 does. Because the 665 has 4 cores at 2ghz, rather than just 2 like the pixel. And the gpu is over closed to almost 1ghz on this phone. So no complaints other than picture quality. The pixel 3a is among the best camera phones ever made to this day. But with the g stylus, running a heavily tweaked and microtuned gcam mod.. its not a huge huge difference unless you are zoomed in. Then it's obvious.