yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] zaooza:
All I want to see on this tablet is fully working LOS 16. It will be more than enough to keep this device alive for the next 4-5 years. And ggow is almost finished polishing it, just need to solve couple issues. It is easier than porting android 11. I still heavily use it on LOS 12 (lollipop), but it is almost abandoned by google and devs. Having hard times searching for older apps versions (like coursera) just because they stopped supporting old api.

It is painful to see how this tablet with great display and "okay" cpu becomes e-waste just because of software.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] sga999:
I'm wondering how you know about ggow's status. I don't see any recent posts from him on XDA.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ABC00012345:
The problem is I have no pc, and not enough storage space, so I cannot build a11 😦
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] moriel5:
I have no idea how it took this long, however I had just realized that Suez has an Imagination Technologies PowerVR iGPU, which in the past would have been a straight no for open-source (Imagination were not the most responsible in that regard, before they were bought out by Chinese investors, after which they have improved drastically with that specific point), but now I am hopeful that there are enough similarities with the newer dGPUs that someone could relatively easily write new drivers for these, like we have with Mali and Adreno iGPUs.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] moriel5:
Update: It seems that our GX6250 is one of the earliest targets for the new driver, which makes things even more exciting!

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
Thursday March 28th 2024

factory refurb back in stock at woot for $25 shipped via prime

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
What's interesting to me about the GPU comments is one of the ways I found that increases stability on this ROM is to use the developer options to offload the CPU as much as possible to the GPU

ie. force GPU rendering and hardware overlays on GPU

If anyone knows of other configuration files that can be tweaked to increase stability, please do speak up.

I get a reboot about once per day at this point.

But I've noticed other quirks that sometimes pushing an APK via ADB will cause a reboot.

I used to think the stability problem was within the WIFI and bluetooth radios but then I noticed even in airplane mode with all that off and hidden scanning turned off, it would still reboot.

So the WIFI and bluetooth crashes are actually a symptom and not the cause.

It's a darn shame, this rom was so close to being perfect.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] K_Meleon:
Did someone manage to get MindTheGapps-9.0.0-arm64-20230922_081118 running? I installed it directly after Lineage, but the Playstore is not available. Or did something change in this procedure?

Thanks for your help!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] platypoid:
Try https://bitgapps.io/ - that worked on one of the tablets I did that other gapps wouldn't.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] SoneCorTam:
anyone got the wifi problem fix yet? other than that....everything seem to be great.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
the only workaround I've figured out is before I do anything serious with the tablet is to turn on airplane mode and then turn airplane mode off

which seems to cycle and clear the wifi+bluetooth radios and whatever bug that builds up with them in another 10-30 minutes

been meaning to mess with SetEdit and see if there are any options that can be tweaked to increase stability

GitHub - MuntashirAkon/SetEdit: Open source version of the original Settings Database Editor

Open source version of the original Settings Database Editor - MuntashirAkon/SetEdit

github.com

it's just crazy to me this tablet has such potential for $20-$25, the newer Fire 10HD models cannot even be rooted yet
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] SoneCorTam:
Well Thank you for the reply, i thought this project was dead. But i guess i will just stay with 14.1 for now until this one get a little bit more stable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
Friday May 17th 2024

guess what's back for $25

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] SoneCorTam:
wow i missed it. "Sold Out"
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
it might be back again next month even though it says clearance, it's been "clearance" for over a year now

then again it looks like someone just barely figured out to root and bootloader unlock the 8th gen just the other day via the GPU which is currently $70 on woot so maybe that will get down to $35 this summer if no-one is going to fix this rom, which is a real shame

wait that might even be the 11th gen, the downside of that is it may not drop below $50 anytime soon
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] SoneCorTam:
Yeah, let's hope for the best. =D
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] abo.rayyan2013:
please gvae me link

OpenGApps​

fro verasion lineage-16.0-20220705-UNOFFICIAL-suez
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] SoneCorTam:
The Open GApps Project

OpenGApps.org offers information and pre-built packages of The Open GApps Project. The Open GApps Project is an open-source effort to script the automatic generation of up-to-date Google Apps packages. All Android versions and platforms supported.

opengapps.org

9.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
and again back in stock Tuesday June 4 2024 for $25 on "clearance"

(it's been on clearance for years)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

Amazon Fire HD 10 (2017, 7th Gen)

sellout.woot.com

they aren't going away

maybe we need to start a reward pile for any developer willing to finish stabilizing this rom or build the next one (I have to assume finishing this one is easier)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Legitsu:
quit spamming the the thread. you been here long enough you should know better
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
So has anyone found a cheap ethernet to usb adapter that works with this rom and will also charge at the same time?

Some roms have the patch to keep charging via OTG and I think this one does but not 100% certain

This is assuming hardwired ethernet solves the wifi bouncing disconnect problem.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] moriel5:
Personally, I would prefer the charging be handled by a separate, pass-through OTG adapter, like Lenovo's T-Hub (officially marketed for their old tablets, but in reality works with any device).

You could try something like that, and I believe it will have a higher chance of working.

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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
yup, what you are talking about is like a mass produced of the powered Y OTG cables we used to use with the ancient Nexus tablets and a special rom

I -think- this rom supports powered Y OTG cables, maybe, I have one

But then the bigger problem is which ethernet chipsets does this rom support, it specifically lists OTG ethernet support and at least one user years ago confirmed it works but didn't say which adapter with which chipset they used

these are most of the known usb-to-ethernet chipsets

AX88179

AX88179A

AX88772

AX88772A

RTL8153

RTL8153B

BUT some devices don't like some of the chipsets and the newer "A" or "B" added actually improves support even though it's newer which confuses the issue

so I guess it's going to be some trial and error unless someone recent is already is doing this and knows the chipset

I had an ancient windows dock that has USB to ethernet and unfortunately the ethernet did not work but the USB hub did and surprisingly so did the keyboard and mouse ports (PS2 no less)

I just found a reference that usb dev mode breaks some ethernet so will try turning that off too
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
got sudden bright idea last night that since the source code is published, that maybe the supported ethernet chipsets are documented in the code and sure enough!

whole bunch of chipset choices, not a guarantee they work but it is a start and they are from the amazon original drivers so maybe

r8152

ax88172a

and more

kernel_amazon_suez-lineage-16.0\drivers\net\usb

kernel_amazon_suez/drivers/net/usb at lineage-16.0 · lineage16-suez/kernel_amazon_suez

Contribute to lineage16-suez/kernel_amazon_suez development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

some are too ancient to matter but good list

the RTL and AX are the best bets for cheap that work

CATC += catc.o
KAWETH += kaweth.o
PEGASUS += pegasus.o
RTL8150 += rtl8150.o
RTL8152 += r8152.o
HSO += hso.o
NET_AX8817X += asix.o
+=ax88172a.o
NET_AX88179_178A += ax88179_178a.o
NET_CDCETHER += cdc_ether.o
NET_CDC_EEM += cdc_eem.o
NET_DM9601 += dm9601.o
NET_SR9700 += sr9700.o
NET_SR9800 += sr9800.o
NET_SMSC75XX+= smsc75xx.o
NET_SMSC95XX+= smsc95xx.o
NET_GL620A += gl620a.o
NET_NET1080 += net1080.o
NET_PLUSB += plusb.o
NET_RNDIS_HOST+= rndis_host.o
NET_CDC_SUBSET+= cdc_subset.o
NET_ZAURUS += zaurus.o
NET_MCS7830 += mcs7830.o
USBNET += usbnet.o
NET_INT51X1 += int51x1.o
CDC_PHONET += cdc-phonet.o
NET_KALMIA += kalmia.o
IPHETH += ipheth.o
SIERRA_NET += sierra_net.o
NET_CX82310_ETH+= cx82310_eth.o
NET_CDC_NCM += cdc_ncm.o
NET_HUAWEI_CDC_NCM+= huawei_cdc_ncm.o
VL600 += lg-vl600.o
NET_QMI_WWAN+= qmi_wwan.o
NET_CDC_MBIM+= cdc_mbim.o
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] droidjunkie:
he wont give it up, he thinks just because its cheap that some dev is just gonna pick one up and say "hey I should start making Roms for this old outdated hardware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] _ck_:
I don't get it, why are you two even in this thread if you aren't interested in the continued development of this rom? Is it bumping somewhere I am not aware or are you just trolling for the sake of trolling? If you are subscribed then just unsubscribe and you never have to worry about it again?

In any case I ordered a $3 RTL8152 ethernet adapter which I will test when it shows up in a couple weeks as it's on a slow-boat from China. Looking at the rom code it stands a good chance of being compatible and I hope it solves the wifi bouncing login problem

What's interesting is the 5ghz seems to have a similar problem to the 2.4ghz so it may be more encompassing, hoping LAN connection works around the issue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] SoneCorTam:
any update on device?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
Is there any development still going on for this ROM? Seems a bit quiet on GitHub, unfortunately.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] kwanbis:
Hey guys. My kids each have a Fire HD 10 (suez). It works more or less well for what they do.

However, I am wondering if installing a propper android image make it a little bit faster.

Will this one be better than stock FireOS? What about 14.2 or 12.1? Thanks!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] violentx:
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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] autobulb:
How did you get Netflix working? The thread is now closed and although I can follow some of the steps some users did to get it working, the link to the APK they posted is no longer available and I'm not sure if I did all their settings correctly. I can't get Netflix working (in HD) on 14.1.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
Camera works with Los 12.1, both front and back, video and record. I also dont have any issues with any apps. Install by apk if needed then the playstore will update them when needed.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
You'll want 12.1. everything works including cameras and if you need an app thats not supported, install by apk. The store will then update it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] kwanbis:
thanks, I went for it. So far so good.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DragonFire1024:
The individual who is preparing this ROM is working very hard with code that is unfortunately pretty screwed up. As it stands there is not a lot of hardware functionality on this ROM as of yet and is proving a very difficult task to try and fix it or get it working.

Which reminds me of the errors I keep meaning to post. I can give a general description of what it is but I I am not in front of my computer at the moment and cannot give a verbatim. Essentially in the beginning of the boot process, camera.mt8173.so is active and attempts to load the camera module and fails because it cannot find a certain file or library that is being called upon by a mtkutils lib. The weird part is the the string it asks for is completely malformed. This could be the smoking gun or it could be nothing at all and the error is only three lines long and I only notice it every so often. When I get home I will post the exact error. Now this may have also been one of my tweaks in attempt to get some of this hardware to work I'm not even entirely sure at this point but I will post it later on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DragonFire1024:
Sorry I ran out of time yesterday but I haven't forgotten. However I did remember a bit I forgot to add. I did a little bit of research on the error after having found it and come to find out the individual who had the problem removed the call to Opendl (where the error originates) and the camera module booted perfectly. I'm not sure if this is even still a possible option but I promise today when I have time I will post what little bit of this error I do have and hopefully we can get something working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] arooni:
showing finishing touches for like 20 minutes. normal?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] thejoker954:
most likely. the hd 10 is slooooow on the 1st run.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] dasbooter:
Checking in to see how things are going. Assuming this still isn't a workable Rom?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Legitsu:
ggow hasn't logged into xda since april so no no progress
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ashrafma93:
Please fix bugs we need this ROM
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ashrafma93:
Unfortunately
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] autobulb:
I gave up on this ROM. Stock ROM with complete debloating works a lot better in my opinion.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] jeromeof:
I am wondering about this also? I want to use this tablet for fairly basic stuff in the next few months (rather than buy a new tablet) but it seems like maybe its too old to get an decent updates so is the stable option to revert to FireOS and 'debloat' it with the fire toolbox ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] autobulb:
It's quite stable for me, but I use it only for media. I have Netflix Youtube Vanced and Plex on it, and sometimes browse a few little things I need to look up but it works just fine for me. With the low specs I don't expect to do any kind of heavy browsing so just opening up a single media app and watching something is just fine.

The ROM in this thread works faaaairly well, but I started to notice enough bugs so as to switch back, especially after seeing the lack of updates unfortunately.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
I

Im Running 12.1 LOS without any issues what so ever, fyi.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] cwesterfield:
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm learning about this as I go. I'm trying to use my rooted Fire tablet as a smart home screen and fully kiosk browser doesn't like the fire os and the webview version.

Would lineage update the webview version?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] io2345:
LOS 12.1 is Androidversion 5.1.

Where is the progress compared to the original FireOS? Isn't that based on Android 5 as well?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] jeromeof:
Well I noticed a bunch of Android apps which now need Android 6.0+ (and 12.1 is 5.1 so very old)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] TonytheEE:
12.1 is based on 5.1, but I think the OG FireOS on these tablets is based on 6, I think. so It might be a downgrade?

But the main benefit is no amazon ecosystem restrictions. It's Basic Android that you can do anything with, assuming the hardware's up to snuff.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Klenz39:
My only hope is the current project did not end up like lineage 14.1. Never received anymore update after the initial release. I remembered this project was running at the same time as douglas and giza. Most of the problem seem to be fixed there. Hope this project will received necessary update before it is discontinued.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
if you haven't noticed, all custom roms go unfinished or is abandon. After as much time has past with no response from the devs, id say EOL for this device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] dasbooter:
Ya unfortunately some apps Wont run on older version of android. I'm looking at you Sonos app. I'm sad this ROM didn't go any farther but happy that someone made the effort... I come back here whenever 12 slows down and I have to reboot or I have to go searching for my lost phone to change the volume in sonos lol
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Shack70:
So I've tried this ROM and its good but has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I tried LOS 14 and really liked it but had issues with the SD card and Netflix and am now back in LOS 12. I can't use several apps because its Android 5.1 and it shows as uncertified in the play store. Many apps won't work on LOS because of the certification.

Some of the problems people are having are not because of bugs, its just because its a custom ROM and nothing the devs can't do about it.

I'm looking forward to this ROM getting better and more stable. Thank you to everyone contributing.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
Unfortunately nobody's contributing and the original author is inactive...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Shack70:
What version oh Magisk are you running? Im having trouble getting Riru to install on newest Magisk.

Never mind, I upgraded to 14.1 and have the safety check working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Nosepull:
Thanks for the info. As you seem to have insider information, any ETAs? I also use 12.1, but more and more apps fail because this Android version is to old.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] c00ler90:
Is there any updates?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] zaooza:
But why OP decided to go back to 14.1?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
Never said for suez I was going back to 14.1.

I will be continuing with lineage-16.0 for suez.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] sga999:
I guess post #110 somehow had the wrong information. It said you were dropping 16 and going back to 14.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Wannabdroid:
The SELinux is disabled. I get a freezing behavior when I give a "setenforce 1" command. Is that a common issue right now?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
Yeah apparently i read the wrong info somewhere. Probably someone else in another rom. Ill try to keep better track of my devices, i have 10 on custom roms. My bad. But im happy to hear continuation of 16 😊
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
Yes, this is normal for now. Looking primarily to understand why there is graphical corruption. Selinux will have to take a back seat for now.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Rortiz2:
Just as a fyi, to fix DRM try to kang libwvdrmengine.so from a device which has Android Oreo (or newer) as stock ROM (for instance, I used libwvdrmengine.so from the Cube U1005). If you're facing drmserver crashes (because of playready), you might have to kang DRM libraries from karnak as I did.

I also managed to fix the camera in douglas (I was facing the same crash as you) by updating the (MTK) camera stack to Android 6.0.1.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
Thanks for the info on the camera and DRM, which devices did you pull the updated camera files from?

The issue I'm looking at first is the graphical corruption as shown in the picture below. The wallpaper and the navbar buttons are affected here. The wallpaper funny enough shows ok on the lockscreen. The icons on the launcher all show fine. No real indication from logcat or dmesg what's going wrong.

Be interested to hear if you have come across this issue on other devices?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Rortiz2:
Yeah, I also experienced these graphical glitches as well. This patch fixed them.

As for the camera, I used the blobs of the BQ Aquaris M8 (MT8163 as douglas). In your case, I guess you'll need to find a MT8173/76 tab with Android 6 or Android 7. A good example is the Xiaomi Mi Pad 3 (cappu).

Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
Thanks for that, will give the patch a go

EDIT: The patch sorted out the skewed graphics - thanks Rortiz2
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Rortiz2:
You're welcome. You might want to check my {douglas, giza} tree, it may contain useful stuff for the suez tree.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
Is there anyone who can run up fireos, install "Passmark PerformanceTest", then post the 2D and 3D test results?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] XploitOcelot:
I'm on it. The 2D tests keep crashing if doing one after the other :-\

Everytime I run a test, the next one keeps getting worse results

2D Graphics Tests (Run one by one)

Solid Vectors - 11907 Vectors/Sec

Transparent Vectors - 7756 Vectors/Sec

Complex Vectors - 141 Complex Vectors/Sec

Image Rendering - 3810 Images/Sec

Image Filters - Crashes everytime

3D Graphics Tests - 5635

Simple Test - 8,1 Frames/Sec

Complex Test - 22,2 Frames/Sec

OpenGL ES using Unity - 6,7 Frames/Sec
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
On lineage this is what I'm getting currently with work-in-progress:

2D Graphics Tests (Run one by one)

Solid Vectors - 13382 Vectors/Sec

Transparent Vectors - 9723 Vectors/Sec

Complex Vectors - 182 Complex Vectors/Sec

Image Rendering - 5017 Images/Sec

Image Filters - 97.6 Filters/Sec

3D Graphics Tests - 5520

Simple Test - 8.0 Frames/Sec

Complex Test - 21.7 Frames/Sec

OpenGL ES using Unity - 6.6 Frames/Sec

Looks like I have at least like for like performance now.

The CPU usage issue seems to have settled down but unsure without more testing.

I'll get the repo's up to date then do another release.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
New Build is Up

Dated 05 February 2022

- [fixed] Navbar icon corruption

- [fixed] Wallpaper corruption

- [fixed] Laggy graphics

- [fixed] High idle cpu usage

- [info] Updated amazon binaries to fireos 5.6.9.0
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Rortiz2:
How did you fix the high idle cpu usage? Is Doze working for you?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] ggow:
As soon as the graphics stuff was fixed the CPU started to behave right too. So didn't do anything extra.