[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] usnbrendon:
Guys...

Is any of this back and forth messiness & tit-for-tat brouhaha here--out in the open--REALLY helpful to forum users?

Does ANY of this blatant whining & self-important bickering--primarily over semantics--between you devs significantly ADD to the edification, assistance, quality of end-user experience or the now decades-old purpose, original intent & driving force behind XDA forums?

Also, do either of you (or any other developer) through public swapping of hostilities, actually gain sizeable trust, respect or influence with regards to your audience...the registered users of XDA forums, with whom you have the luxury of communicating for the good of all herein?

· For each question posed, I assert the most direct and obvious answer is a rather emphatic:

"NO!"

(The exclamation point used for practical, unequivocal emphasis; thank you. 😌)

Recently on newer XDA threads & topics, it seems obvious [to me at least] things have sorta gone off the rails with regards to mutual respect between devs AND contributors alike. Circa 2009-ish and even into 2015 timeframe our modding community enjoyed & demonstrated a significantly more unified set of core values, which to my recollection included an almost religiously-held belief in giving credit where credit is rightfully due amongst Open Source devs.

Was it perfect? No. But it apparently was a time where it wasn't too much of a bother or 'inconvenience' to simply & steadfastly practice the basic art of showing GRATITUDE & RESPECT to the work of those who made your contribution(s) possible by offering them no more or less RECOGNITION than clearly documenting what if any portion of your finished work is made possible by another developer's painstaking efforts and/or expertise and proudly crediting them accordingly.

This practicing was never intended to deify any particular developer but rather to demonstrate a proper level of respect and gratitude for the exhaustive efforts and countless grey hairs they've no doubt incurred by choosing to be a developer. Y'all freaking know this...clearly, since it is the root of your childish bickering. So I realise I'm not the first one to express this bold new concept! 🙄

Sure, it is literally impossible to fully credit each and every single developer in the ridiculously long succession of open source coders who have ultimately and inarguably contributed to your work, her work, their work and mine as well. That isn't really the point! You know whose work you're merely borrowing heavily from and who's entire work you're flat out greedily gobbling up and recompiling along with but a few changes sprinkled in here and there--well, certainly you know, whether or not it's enough to call it YOURS.

Bottom line: a truly gifted developer doesn't NEED to do that crap. A talented dev is not afraid to credit his sources and let his original work stand on its own merits! Only self-important blowhards and unscrupulous clowns masquerading as authentic developers stoop to such lows.

I wish I could believe that NEITHER of you is such a b.s. artist that you're trying to pass off the original work of other talented devs as your own. I truly want to believe this nonsense is based purely on misunderstanding and perhaps someone being too damn nosey; not actual intentioned malfeasance. I want to find these in-thread personal attacks on one dev's integrity by another is both unwarranted and is eventually made right.

But....more importantly, I want to believe that grown 🤐 men know better than to air their dirty laundry in a place where it's grossly and wholly inappropriate and makes all involved appear simple and unprofessional.

Unfortunately, it is clear that the latter is no longer possible! So I'll settle for you guys working out your "stuff" in PMs the way we used to conduct ourselves on XDA. Jee-zuz!

Sorry, but it just felt like it had to be said and no one else was rising to the occasion. If you're not here to help....PLEASE feel free to go somewhere else. It's okay. Honest.

Cheers y'all