yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
3.9.1.8 is really messed up for me ... I'll try to write as much of what I observed.

On installation, Pocket Artist showed up, even though Hide wrong size windows is checked by default. Then I switched to Pocket Artist, and when I went back to TF, it was hidden.

I unchecked Hide wrong size windows, and PA showed up again, but the window was named "poutlook" and when you clicked on it, sometimes it wouldn't go to PA, but it would take you to TF3D. This happened randomly. When it took you to TF3D this way, the HTC task manager wouldn't show up until you clicked on TF3D somewhere.

Then, overnight, the phone locked up pretty hard and I had to plug-unplug-plug cycle and soft reset it to get it going again.

Sometimes, unrelated to PA, I get the "poutlook" window, which takes me to TF3D.

I'm sorry that I can't be more accurate than this, the behavior is really erratic. I should note, CDMA Touch Pro, stock Sprint ROM.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fourcc:
ooohhh! what a pity! so that means that i have to choose betwenn stay withthe last wktask compatible TF version 3.8.1.5 or to upgrade to future TF versions without the ability to launch it using wktasks. Difficult decition.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceException

at TaskFacade.MainForm.OnDeactivate(EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.GetMessage(MSG& lpMsg, IntPtr hWnd, UInt32 wMsgFilterMin, UInt32 wMsgFilterMax)

at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

Here is another error, this was with 3.8.1.6 so don't know if it's been fixed already or not. Also, speed seems a little better! Will test a little more tomorrow, have been unable to do much work on my PPC last couple of days. Thanks as always for the progress ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
I use TouchFlo, so there is no taskbar...

May u add a fuction to enable/disable silent start-up??

thanks...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I'm getting this too.

Also getting OutOfMemoryException about once every other day (seems to need to be on for a while before that one pops up).

Using 3.8.1.6.

Thanks for an awesome app!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atlatico:
Hello gps-lover,

I use version 3.8.1.6 with a HTC Touch HD (WM6.1).

I like this App very much an its function is quite amazing.

Nevertheless the following issues has appeared:

When I start TaskFacade if there is no window/programm opened exept of the today screen, TaskFacade hangs up and crashes with the following two crash reports:

1:

TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceExeption

bei TaskFacade.MAinForm.OnDeactivate(EventArgs e)

bei System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 WParam, Int32 lParam)

beiSystem.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.DispatchMessage(MSG& lpmsg)

beiTaskFacade.Program.Main()

When I quit this report the next one appears:

2.

TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceException

bei TaskFacade.MainForm.Dispose(Boolean disposing)

bei System.ComponentModel.Component.Dispose()

bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.DispatchMessage(MSG& lpmsg)

bei TaskFacade.Program.Main()

If I have only one more windows/program opened this issue doesen't appers.

Another problem is a similar problem, that another user posted a few days ago:

If i have opened iGO8 and start then TaskFacade because i want to go to the today screen, the tap on the todayscreen miniature picture brings up iGO8 again. As long as iGO8 is aktive i can't go to the today screen.

I hope you can imagine what I mean.

Thanks an d regards.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceException

at TaskFacade.MainForm.OnDeactivate(EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.GetMessage(MSG& lpMsg, IntPtr hWnd, UInt32 wMsgFilterMin, UInt32 wMsgFilterMax)

at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

i am getting this error for some reason using the latest version
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Canyue:
:)It hard:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0k0m0k0:
always some bugs...

EDIT:

I 've installed the latest release (3.8.1.8) and there are much more critical errors than with the recent release... I cant even launch again taskfacade after first critical error...

One thing that I cant understand is that you did not let the choice between ban a process or a window name, and I'm not sure if its the reason why, but eg the program "Pocket Forecast" (see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=445576) does not appear in taskfacade (I banned "Desktop"...)

finnaly even if the new options are always better, I hesitate to reinstall an older and more stable release (dont know which one to choose ;) )

anyhow, thanks for this good tool!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0k0m0k0:
waiting for a more stable release

I have just reinstalled the release 3.7.7 and everything looks much more stable... even if it is less userfriendly to edit the config.txt manually ;)

it looks also much faster... (maybe thats just an illusion :p )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
sorry for that.

in a couple of days you'll have a stable version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
I have been having a couple of programs not show up in TF since version 3.8. Did you change how processes were detected? In versions prior to that it worked perfectly.

As an example, ApptoDate rarely shows up when it is running.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
This version is a step backwards for stability. Much more unstable than previous ones. I'm having recurrent problems with it starting at all. It's doing the whole show-up-in-the-taskbar-but-not-activate thing again (even though there is more than one program running). Kill from process doesn't work, soft-reset is the only thing to fix it. Another time I double-clicked on a process, hit the hide button, then ok and it froze. Also getting exception errors when I switch profiles in PhoneAlarm. Going back to .1.6 until these issues get sorted out.

Also, for next version was hoping you could add the Process Inflation thing that exists in the xml to the settings tab and perhaps allow us to specify the color of the selector (and maybe images someday ;). Anyway, looking forward to next version for more bugfixes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rcll:
This looks like the nicest Alt+Tab/visual task manager. Can someone link the last 3.8.16 version? I'd like to try it out on my Fuze, looking to map it to the useless PTT button.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mad223:
nice app,thanks for giving it to us!

2 questions though

1.i have the 3.7.7 version and i can't find the options of this program,i press ok but it just closes the app

2.is microsoft network 3.5 usefull in something else except task facade?

thanks again....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwoodall:
Bad news...the smartphone test failed. It won't even run. It immediately has an error and you have to quit.

Kermit Woodall

Managing Editor

GadgetNutz.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JKingDev:
Ehh, that might be your problem? :P

Many programs require .NET framework to run. They may not need version 3.5, but there is absolutely no reason not to run the latest version of any program unless it gives you problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mad223:
thanks king i'll try to locate the latest....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JKingDev:
No problem. Latest netcf? Try here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/74341832/NETCF_3.5_ppc_ce5.rar

gps lover, maybe you should add this link to your first post?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceException

at TaskFacade.MainForm.Mouse_SingleClick(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e)

at TaskFacade.MouseHandler.SingleClickTimer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Timer._WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at System.Windows.Forms.ApplicationThreadContext._InternalContextMessages(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.GetMessage(MSG& lpMsg, IntPtr hWnd, UInt32 wMsgFilterMin, UInt32 wMsgFilterMax)

at TaskFacade.Program.Main()
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rcll:
This software looks great. I hope the download link comes back on the site soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
check out the official site.. the software it there .

http://sites.google.com/site/taskfacade/download

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more about omnia => http://www.onlline.org/omnia/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
>Download

>Current version: Please come back later.

Are you sure?

I think gps-lover needs some time for investigation
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lbhocky19:
yeah why is download down?

i tried older versions hoping the new ones good
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rac:
Anyone have a good DL link for an earlier or current version while the Download from the site is not ... downloading...

rac
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
wait for 3.8.1.9 ......
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
It's available via Apptodate ...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] alireza_simkesh:
Download link is down!

it tells me to "come back later"!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lbhocky19:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/Task-Facade-69002.shtml

there is 3.8.1.6

how do i use apptodate though? i wana get it to the newest
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Just wait. The newest release was very unstable. I'm sure he's correcting the bugs as we speak and the next version will be the one to download.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lbhocky19:
ya i managed to get an older one and use apptodate to get the new one but yes very buggy

il just wait til he actually puts it out. should be good

just glad you can now tap the process to hide it the old way was buggy
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
for testers only

can someone test this (only bugfixing and castlings):
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fourcc:
i will do it now!

btw, have you thought about include a command line fature to be able to swich task associating it to a gesture based program such as ftouchflo or similar?

it could be a great improvement, it would be the first task switcher that enables it. What do you think about it? not in your route planning maybe?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
just tested it.. works wonderfully at least thus far!

all windows appear.. like that new show/hide wrong sized windows function

so far no force quits and the hide function works very well

great version!

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
TaskFacade.exe

OutOfMemoryException

bei Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr(PAL_ERROR ar)

bei System.Drawing.Bitmap._Init(Int32 cx, Int32 cy)

bei System.Drawing.Bitmap..ctor(Int32 width, Int32 height)

bei TaskFacade.Helpers.CaptureScreen()

bei TaskFacade.ProcessManager.CaptureDeactivatingProcess()

bei TaskFacade.ProcessManager.OnTaskFacadeActivation()

bei TaskFacade.MainForm.OnActivated(EventArgs e)

bei System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

bei Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

bei System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

bei TaskFacade.Program.Main()

this is the meassage i get pritty soon on my Xperia X1.

Best regards

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
are you sure you have enough free memory?

i will handle the exception of course, but your system will not be able to make new snapshots...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jhanson:
Works great on my touch pro. No problems to report so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nkawtg:
Any ETA on the new version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
What should I say, I have an Xperia X1 which has plenty of memory.

App button Plus is showing "Program Memory":

Total 200.48 MByte

used: 91.21 MByte

free: 109.27 MByte

this is the same numbers as shown alos under settings and "Memory"

Task Facade is so far the only program which is making trouble. Maybe the "Panels" are the problem?

That some fixed heap memory or something like that is too much

Is there anyhting else I could check or test?

Best regards,

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0k0m0k0:
it looks it works very well now :)

just installed and all previous bug checked and looks like corrected, good!

lets hope no fatal error during next hours ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
i'll let you know by 2morrow..

more on omnia => http://www.onlline.org/omnia/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
the only thing that does not show up for me with 12.11 version is task items, but I am assuming that is part of the default exlusions?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
I installed and soft reset, it seems to work well, even with pocket artist.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
what are task items?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
Question - in some versions of TaskFacade, I noticed TF would not display in the HTC task manager list ... but with some, including the test version, it would. Is there rhyme or reason to this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
for testers

don't know. but your omnia is also so far the only one making troubles. ;)

(just joking)

anyway, testers please try this version: getting rid of OutOfMemory exception while making a snapshot.

if the program cannot capture screen (not enough memory), it will silently continue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
the background here is:

Originally, TF appeared for a second when starting, then hiding itself. it gave us the ability of creating the main form when starting. And the existence of the main form is the prerequisite for a program to be shown in a programs manager.

Then, there were some people not willing to see TF flashing when starting. So, since some 3.8.1.x version i switched off creating the main form. but it caused not showing TF as a visible app in task managers.

Now, i changed it back to creating the main form right from the start. I think it's the lesser of two evils.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
Is it possible to make it selectable?

P.S. I am not having out of memory problems, so I'm not going to be testing the latest. So far so good with 12/11 test though!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
I will test it off course.

It is a SE Xperia not a Omnia!

I am always lucky with those things, to be the only one to get a special error meassage ...

Could you explain a little bit more from which area you are allocating the memory for the snapshot and which other applications could take it as well. Is it just "normal" memory allocation or a "special area? (I am by far not a programmer, just trying to help to indentify a potital reason fro this issue only on my Xperia ... :))

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
"so far so good" is not the best approach here.

the latest beta is always a candidate to become a release, so if you will not face problems in the latest beta you have all chances to face them in the release.

please try the latest version if you can!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
previous was ok.. going to upgrade to 12.12.08 version and let u know.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] t0k0m0k0:
no any problem on the second day with the release of 11_12

I try the 12_12 release ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
1. 12-12 runs very well on my HTC TouchHD (with 3.8' WVGA screen).

2. TaskFacade appear on WkTASK, thanks..

ps: I want to ask a question about how to set Exclusion list? ex: ActiveSync
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fourcc:
yes, it works for me too with wktask. thanks a lot
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] erichss:
I can't seem to get it to DL. When I click the download button, it just refreshes the page.....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
3.8.5 released

went to release
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
Just tried 3.8.5 and so far after 5min playing no major issues. Just the Comm Manager is not starting any more. Will keep you posted if I find anything else.

What I do not get is every 5s a screen update of all the applications which are open.

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
Hm are there any settings i can change with the latest version? Seems stable on my i900 so far but i cant find any settings...

Nice program!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] osavioro:
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I cannot install the latest 3.8.5 version on my Touch HD.

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Oups ... sory the file was not completely downloaded.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
Unfortunately with 12/11 test last night, phone hard locked overnight, had to remove battery. Trying to figure out whether it was TF or not. Will upgrade to 3.8.5 and see what happens.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
TaskFacade Forum!

Hey guys,

it's nearly 100.000 hits in this thread.

Seems to me, one thread is not enough for all those ideas, problems, opinions that we have.

Here comes a new TaskFacade forum:

http://taskfacade.mybb3.org/portal.php

Participate!

You can use it anonymously for reading, for writing you should register.

Join my polls and create yours: they will help us to track down, which feature is most necessary.

And, of course, if you are a programmer, please help with your hints.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
i hate to quote myself^^...anyone?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
press the ok button, then settings or close will pop up.. go into settings ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
Thanks for your reply, but when i press the ok button, taskfacade minimizes itself. But your right, there is a settings menu. But i cant press it, since its dissappearing too fast when i press ok.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
using the latest version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
anyone can tell me how to download the latest version?

[Not sure if I missed the link to the forum for downloading yesterday but saw the link this morning.]
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
I seem to be getting quite a bit of lockups with the latest version, but I can't say for sure it is TF. Will try uninstalling and see if problem abates.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] minhtuan1986:
It takes longer to open this version on my Touch Elfin than the previous one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] -Vulture-:
Yep, latest version. But i found the bad guy: it was inclose mobile which was interferring with TaskFacade. I added TaskFacade to the conflict list of inclose mobile and now it works, ive got my settings^^...:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
yes, this is "by design".

i'm using more reliable windows initialization mechanism, which is taking a bit more time.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] minhtuan1986:
I map "long end key" to Task facade, it takes about 1-1,5 seconds after i release the button to open the app, when it ran almost instantly in the last version. T_t.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
if you mean activation, not the first run - there should be no difference comparing to the previous version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
I was having that problem too with the last test version. It would take 3-4 seconds to pop up (this is once it had already been loaded and was running). However, I'm not having the problem with 3.8.5.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rcll:
3.8.5 runs fast for me, I don't have much lag getting it to pop up. I remapped it to the PTT button on my Fuze.

I was wondering, on a fresh boot when I switch to TaskFacade I see a window called Services, when I tap it goes nowhere. If I long tap it for deletion and switch to another program the Services window closes but then the phone becomes unstable(the upper right X/Ok button stops responding).

Apparently this Services window is important but I'd like to have it hidden and not show up in TaskFacade, can this be done?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rcll:
Here is a screencap of what I see.

This is what TaskFacade looks like on fresh boot(hold power button till shutdown, press power button for start up) or a soft reset(stylus in reset hole)

The "services" window goes nowhere if you tap it, it redirects you back to desktop(window named "Start") I think it has something to do with HTC Task Manager that runs in the upper right corner.

The second "Desktop" window seems redundant and leads back to the same "Start" window if you tap it.

Looking at the screen showed in the screencap, if you tap any of these three windows they all take you to the screen labeled "Start", which is the desktop TF3D screen with the clock, call history, calendar etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
v3.85 drains my memory, happen twice....not sure...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rcll:
What are you using to measure your memory usage? In my HTC task manager TaskFacade doesn't seem to use much memory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
I have checked the memory manager and still have many (more than 100mb in my TouchHD), but NetCF show error message something like my memory doesnt enough, strang thing i know -_-

so i go back to v3.8.1.5 now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atomic2mod:
I'm trying to exclude certain programs from showing up in the TaskFacade. I'm entering the name of the windows in the settings (PocketCM), it sticks, but TaskFacade is still showing the program (as well as shell32).

am I missing somehting?

Just discovered it in the FAQs: Q: Can I exclude some programs from appearing?

A: Yes. Double-tap the process you want to bar, in the dialog, press the Bar menu item. Or, in the Settings dialog use the 3rd tab 'Barring'.

Question though: Can we have a ONE Button Close All feature?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
That could be cool. Maybe as an entry in the "ok" button menu.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
3.8.5 - not all apps showing up sometimes?

Anybody else noticing that sometimes not all apps show up in 3.8.5? Usually I'm noticing it's at the point where Task Facade would increase the number of tiles. For example, if I have six apps running, then open a seventh, one of the six will just not be shown. Then if I open an eight, it goes to the 9-tile view. Then if I close one, seven show up correctly in the 9-tile view. It's not 100% consistent. Sometimes it seems to work and sometimes it doesn't. I am excluding a few apps and they are always not visible (yay), the apps that are not appearing are not on the exclusion list.

Also, I'd like to see the return of the ability to exclude window classes. I miss that feature. :-) Excluding EXEs is good, but sometimes I just want a class excluded since it can be used to ban a window that spans over multiple apps, or just one window in a single app. :-)

LOVE THIS APP!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
future version's snapshot

There is a snapshot of the future version on the TaskFacade forum:

http://taskfacade.mybb3.org/general-discussion-f3.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ellises:
Exception error with 3.8.5

I don't know if anyone else has any problems with the new version of TaskFacade (Version 3.8.5), but I am unable to run this version on my Moto Q 9m windows mobile 6.0 smartphone.... I get this error message when the application tries to load:

TaskFacade.exe

NotSupportedException at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr(PAL_ERROR ar) at Microsoft.WindowsCE.Forms.InputPanel..ctor() at Microsoft.WindowsCE.Forms.InputPanel.ctor(IContainer container) at TaskFacade.MainForm.InitializeComponent() at TaskFacade.MainForm..ctor() at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

As a note, I was able to run the previous version of TaskFacade on my smartphone