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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Mondrean:
I've problem with my HTC TOUCH PRO ... after 15 aug ... the max battery life is 8 hours without Data Connections, Wifi, 3g, bluetooth and etc. ... the battery life is the same (8h) in standby .... hard reset, registry power tweaks and everything .... 8 hours .. this is the result ... :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willbeh:
It's my unit that's the problem. They have replace another TP for me and seems to be working well. The previous unit get pretty hot when using it for only a while. the current one get only slightly hot after long use
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] th1nm1nt:
I figured out the quick battery drain issue for my phone. I left my phone on my windowsill in the basement two nights ago. I forgot about it, and went to bed. When I got up, the basement was flooded thanks to heavy rain, and my TP was full of water. I took out the MicroSD, SIM card, and battery, and let it sit for about 5 hours (while crying and thinking I was out $1100 USD). Right around 9am, I put it back together, and now I'm still running on yesterday's charge. Still pulling email, full function, and the battery meter still shows three bars.

My recommendation to everyone...put it in your fish tank for a few minutes, and repeat the above steps :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sanderd:
I'm definitely going to do that, humm... ;)

The battery life of mine seems to have increased, but I've woken up twice where the battery was completely drained.

I played one track (30mins) in Windows Media Player (and TCPMP once), no repeat etc. The next morning, the battery is drained.

Still need to get used to Windows Mobile, going to start programming .NET CF in a few weeks.

SanderD
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] legend2:
I don't have a TP yet, but on my former phone the microSD card was the reason for a bad battery life.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] suikast42:
That's realy funny. I hope for a fast ROM Update. I turned TFD off and use SPB plugins now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cracou111:
hi,

The battery life of mine is quite good (much better than my touch diamond)

I am using it a lot (calls, sms, pictures, video, GPS) and it last at least 2 days!

I have it since a week so it's been charged only 5 or 6 times, so I think it could only improve!

I'm happy with it! :)

PS : I'm not living in a forest or in the desert like some persons!

I have always a possibility to charge my Touch PRO :D:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] xcesspda:
Li-ion/Li-ion polymer?

just went to htc.com

according to the site that tp may come with Li-ion or Li-ion polymer batt.

just wondering.....

are they they same? (Li-ion/Li-ion polymer?)

i guess not.....

maybe the issue is due to different batteries?

hmmm....

what u guys having with your tp?

polymer??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] helraiser:
Well i've got a prob that'll baffle all of you.

My phone's almost always plugged in. At home from about 6pm till 7am, it's plugged into a wall charger and charging. When I unplug it I've got all bars.

Push mail is from 6am till 6pm, pop email is every 15mins during this period and manual after.

I motorbike to work and the weather's kinda chilly in the morning, about 6C. Anyway, I get to work and it sits on a USB charger and syncs also. I've got it set to disable wireless connectivity when connected to usb.

Problem is, I unplug the usb cable and it's lost power. While on USB, the display is on, dimmed but on. The phone is locked - security policy on the exchange server. At the end of the day, I leave work with 2 bars even though it's been sitting on the desktop for most/all of the day.

I double checked to ensure the box that disables the charging when plugged into usb is UNchecked and it wasn't/isn't. Advanced config also shows that the phone should charge when it's plugged in.

The phone actually says "Charging" in the Power menu under Recharging State. I've also tried different USB ports but they all seem the same...

Any thoughts? HELP! <G>
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
Today I had an abnormal situation: the battery didn't charge totally. Only after I take the battery and placed it again I was able to finish the charging. Anyone had the same problem???
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jakontil:
hi helraiser,

my thought is, what you doing whilst pluggin the TP on USB charger, consumes more power that what it gets.

logically, this is what happens to mine,

whilst using the internet sharing, meaning, the TP is connected to my PC using the USB cable, it's charging, and the internet connection, when it gets 3G as connection, consumes more power, and no matter how long i charge, the battery bar is decreasing slowly until it finishes up. but then, it's another story when it gets GPRS/EDGE connection (non-3G), it can keep charging until the battery gets full.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] helraiser:
Very odd... I'm using EDGE right now because 3G doesn't work here in Canada and I would've thought it'd charge right up.

I'm going to test another theory this weekend. I have a feeling that when the display is on, it's consuming a lot more power than when it's off however when I hit the power button, it stops Syncing... Maybe if I can figure a way to have the display completely dark but still sync. It does dim after sitting idle but doesn't completely turn off.

Could it just be the display that's sucking up all that juice?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jiggs1337:
I used CommMgrPro as well as MyMobiler. MyMobiler lets me view my phone on the pc but also using F11 turn off the screen on the phone. Then while having CommMgrPro showing battery usage, i could see exactly the difference screen on and off made. And it was significant. Sadly i cant remember how much, and i no longer have CommMgrPro. But your theory is correct. The screen makes a big difference. Charges far faster when i use MyMobiler to turn the screen black on USB.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] akash_nu:
I just cant believe it when ppl say that they are getting like 2 days of battery life... That just seems to be impossible in my case...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] venelar:
That's a concern of mine as well. Right now i have a hermes/8525 and I'm lucky if make it through the day with any battery left. That's with disabling data connection and running edge instead of 3G. I have to charge it while I go home for lunch every day.

I've been waiting for this phone to hit AT&T but i really worried about the battery life. Don't know if i should use my upgrade for the touch pro or to "downgrade" to a BJ2. I pretty much run my businees from my phone, I'm in the office as little as possible out actually doing the work, can't be having a phone that makes it half a day anymore.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] akash_nu:
The best suggestion for you would be to get a spare battery as well if you consider upgrading to TP.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] helraiser:
yup, confirmed. when i've got the screen on it drains the battery prettty quickly but when it's off it's okay. I've not synced/charged the battery today and i've only lost 1 bar however before i'd be down quite a few with it plugged in and the display on.

odd!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Emmoth:
I get like 2 days of battery time, and that is with constantly beeing connected to the net, running MSN in background, browsing a few websites, sending a few sms, and 1-2 MMS, 3G is on, Wifi like 15min, Bluetooth a few hours, and a few phone calls.. and active sync is on quite often.

But yeah, if I have WiFi enable all the time I really need to charge it every night.

Don't know why it's such diffrent between the battery life. If not the net provider has anyting to do with it... I mean how many connection spots your close to.. Anyway I'm on Telia here in Sweden and it works just fine.. about the same battery time as with my kaiser.

/Mattias
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] akash_nu:
i have noticed something though, with a few charges the battery DOES seem to last longer...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pbaker22:
wtf is up with this

just bought this device 3 days ago, it's great and all, but what's up with the poor battery performance? i did a few long charge/drain cycles but the battery just drains way too quick.

on a full charge i used the GPS for 5 (!) minutes and saw the battery drain 2 bars. :(

last night i charged it for 4 hrs using the wall socket: i only used GSM radio, about 10 sms', no wi-fi, no bluetooth, no GPS, no phone calls, and read an ebook for about 1 hour on the lowest possible screen brightness setting. when I woke up this morning the battery was nearly drained. one phone call later and it starts beeping.

i find this absurd. for 1100 bucks i'd expect it to last a bit longer. perhaps i have a bad battery? on monday im going to the local HTC center and get myself a new bat, so i can compare the two.

i've read all the postings here. does anybody have any ideas, suggestions?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] akash_nu:
yeah within the 1st 2 weeks u r gonna experience that but wit a few charges the battery life does increase n u dont need to do the charge n drain cycle wit the new batteries, infact it is advisable to put the phone on charge when tge battery is half drained...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pbaker22:
@akash_nu: thanks, i'll try what you said, and give it a few weeks. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pmw:
I've had my Touch Pro for 2 weeks, and the battery life has improved very significantly over that time. The first charge lasted barely a day, but now it's running about two days, with HSPDA constantly enabled, and a moderate level of sms, phone, music via bluetooth and web activity. (Sorry I can't be more detailed in my description, but I've been too busy to conduct quantified experiments).

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the battery performance. I'll probably still buy a second battery or charging device, as I travel alot, but it's a very acceptable performance.

I have huge reluctance giving up my Universal, and would love to have all the TP functionality in with the big Uni screen and that fantastic keyboard. Maybe one day HTC will design exactly what I want, but they haven't yet.

The battery performance of the Uni dropped dramatically after a couple of years, and forced me to consider a new device. Even with a new battery, it ended up lasting barely a day and closing down without warning. With the TP, I also get all the other benefits from the latest developments (gps, better bluetooth performance, touchflo, etc).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] techieinpink:
Battery Life

Thanks for the suggestion. Also having problems with my TP battery. Finished charging it 12:20am and battery was drained by 8pm. And that is with wifi, data connections and bluetooth turned off. Usage is minimal. A couple of text messages and only 3 minutes of wi-fi. It's really starting to alarm me especially when I read about the good battery life others get out of their touch pro.

One concern though, is it safe to charge the battery for 12 hours? I don't doubt it worked for you I'm just confused because the TP manual states a charging period of 3 hours.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Can anyone tell me how to prevent RSShub and QuickGPS from start every time I connect my TP via activesync throught my pc via USB or Bluetooth??

After connecting, RSSHub and QuickQPS don't stop anymore and I think this is one of the factors for the drain of the batt
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jim Coleman:
I doubt they're the problem. QuickGPS only updates every 6 days or so, and RSS can be set to manual.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Yeah, stupid of me, both can be set to manual...

By the way, OperaPreL.exe , how to remove it from starting up??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willbeh:
When just get the phone 3 weeks ago, it could not last even for a day. Now it can last about 2 days. Without much use, in 2 days it still have around 30 - 50%. Previously, I was using it in Malaysia and this week I'm using in Denmark.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jim Coleman:
A lot of the performance of the battery is down to the reception in your area.

Here where I work (in the middle of London) reception is terrible. The phone has a job keeping any kind of signal and it constantly flips between 2g and 3g and only gets a single bar on either.

This drains the battery as the phone is constantly renegotiating its connection to the network.

In areas of good coverage, the phone can relax a bit and this will make it last longer.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Well, after a few more searches here in the forum I found this,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2481033&postcount=81

For the moment I think it's helping a lot but I have to test it more.

And when I connect again to the pc, I don't know if repllog terminate after a few minutes...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] veljko.m:
Yap! Battery is VERY sensitive on bad reception.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gizmos:
wellwhateve I did on Monday has had a remarkable effect on the battery - is lasting so much better!! onto third day and its only been on charge for 3/4 in total!!! However on Sunday it was on charge for over 14 hours
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pmw:
In areas of good coverage, the phone can relax a bit and this will make it last longer.[/QUOTE]

When the battery performance on my phone is poor, I give it a good backrub and a cocktail, performance increases markedly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] HexiumVII:
Maybe you guys should use a more accurate battery indicator program. I've been using SBC Pocket plus which has a whopping 15 bar indicator so i know exactly what charge my phone is at. I'm using and ancient Blue Angle with the original battery from like 4 years ago and it still lasts 5 days with moderate talk (no data, net, wifi). The 15 bar really helps compared to the rediculous 3 bars. I mean wtf is 1 bar? Could mean 1 hour or 1 min, wow that helps.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Just a quick report of my batt.

Last sunday I made the first test after removing the activsync from the notifications.

I disconnected the phone from the charger at 11/12am on sunday and it last until wednesday at late afternoon!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] braintoast:
Fixed it - famous last words....?

I had exactly the same issue as the people who've quoted shockingly bad battery life - less than a day with HSDPA and wireless etc off, just using as it as a phone.

Done the usual registry hacks suggested with little change. However, I noticed that the phone was occasionally quite warm when I remove it from my belt case, and noticed the scroll wheel was flashing, so I had a poke about....

I've just had over 2 days standby off my phone with 2 battery bars remaining (unheard of) by switching OFF "flash light for 30 minutes" (!!) within all my notifications - I've also switched off "display message on screen" and will try and introduce these messages back in once I've finished enjoying having a useable battery life (as although locked, the screen temporarily lights up when screen messages appear).

Anyway:

Start -> Settings.

Sounds and Notifications icon -> Notifications tab.

Tap on the "Event:" dropdown and go to all the events that have the light option on and unselect it (as mentioned, I've also switched off display message temporarily).

This may also explain why some people aren't seeing the battery draining as they may not have lots of calendar entries/reminders and other events which cause the light to come on...?

Not going to cancel my order for an extended battery though, obviously... ;)

HTH guys,

Rob.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Loco5150:
I didnt read the whole thread so I dont know has this been posted; but it was the same thing with Kaiser at the beginning... When more Rom's and radios come out, we get more batterylife for sure.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] programatix:
Reading this thread, I found out how silly you guys are when you are comparing how many days your TP lasts before the next recharge. Come on, when you bought the device, you should have read that the battery lasts about 5 to 6 hours of talk time. This would mean that you can play with it for about 5 to 6 hours before the battery depleted. How hard can it be to understand that? Of course, some activities would shorten it, like using GPS or WiFi.

If you guys start measuring how many hours you have been using your TP before it runs out of juice, then you guys won't be this confused. So, the problem now is how to measure it? The easiest is to use AE Button Plus for the report. Every WM devices keep track of how long since last recharge, last soft reset, uptime and ect. There are other software out there which is able to report about this.

What we want to know is the "uptime" since last fully recharged. For AE Button Plus, just configure one hardware button to display the "Uptime Information". The uptime is the total time you actually used the phone.

For my TP, I used WiFi about 2 hours a day, 3G Data Connection the rest of the time (push email) and it lasts for about 7 hours of uptime usage. I believe if everyone use this technique of measuring the battery life, you would find that everyone's TP actually lasts about the same amount of hours.

To summarize this, please don't continue comparing how many days your TP battery lasts. Please only state the uptime your TP has gone through before it goes flat.

Btw, there is some bug with some WM devices. Even when it is fully recharged, it doesn't detects that the battery is fully charged. So, before you unplug the charger, make sure that your TP detected that is has been fully charged and wakes it up and check the Uptime Information. Make sure that the Fully Charged status is 0 min ago. Only then you unplug the charger. This is the steps to make sure that the measurement stays as accurate as it should be.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] patterns:
have to say im really disappointed with the battery life of the pro.

i have the diamond and would have expected this to be considerably better taking into account its size difference

phone like this should last atleast 3days IMHO. think il stick with my diamond ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] doublecheese:
After disconnecting from the charger at around 8.00 am every morning , my battery dies at around 10 PM .

I had this phone just over 2 weeks . I only have iGO8 and Garmin Mobile XT installed on the phone as an extra.

I make about 15 calls - 2-3 minute calls each

WiFi - Generally OFF

3G on although we don't have 3G until November

Around 10 SMS messages.

No MP3 listening,

Browsing online for around 10 minutes and

Navigation 5 minutes (just to try the phone) I'm not using the GPS much as I'm afraid it will drain my batteries too quickly so I stick to my FSC N560 when GPS needed for the time being.

Just now, I turned off the 3G and will remark the battery time differences if any.

I believe that next ROM's and Radio Versions will improve these times.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] programatix:
It's sad to read the post stating that TP battery should last 3 days as the poster still doesn't understand the concept.

Take it like this, the battery actually last about 5 to 6 hours of talk time. This means that if you keep it on (not in standby mode) the whole day, the battery would be depleted after 5 to 6, or more (talking on the phone uses more power than normal use).

Now, it all depends on how you use the deivce. A guy like me, my TP battery depleted after a day of use. My wife, hers last for about 4 to 6 days. Why? She uses it to make calls only like she always did when she was using a Nokia.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] presente21:
You have to be happy my friend. Mine lasts 8h maximum...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] z3phon:
Ok I need help from you guys. I was just about to purchase the TP today but researching about the battery life and coming across this thread has only made me more doubtful. I'm torn between the iPhone and TP. Personally I love everything about the TP and would take it over the iPhone anytime but I the battery life is my main concern. How does the TP battery life compare to the iPhone's battery?

I need an honest answer about comparing their battery life, which one has better battery life?

Will appreciated your help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] presente21:
Hello,

I use both... They're 2 completely different phone...

The Touch Pro is a business phone.

Iphone is a toy phone.

The battery in my 3G iphone is much better than in my TouchPro, but even with this problem I'd take the HTC.

For the battery problem (while there isnt any other solution - ex: Rom update) I bought the car charger and Im gonna buy one more spare battery for sure...

Hope could help u
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Brendo:
you can always get replacement/spare batteries for touch pro. i have no problems with my stock battery though
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] presente21:
How long does your battery last?

Please if you dont mind describe what and how much u use on it...

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Brendo:
well i always have wifi on and it i have watched 2 1.5hr movies (streamed from pc to ppc via wifi) on the one battery and it still hadnt run out

not sure what real battery life is as i usually have it on charge (cradle/usb)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] 10332007:
In reading through this thread I noticed a few posts about people leaving the phone's charging for a long time (even after its gotta be full) Some Li-On batteries are succeptable to burn out or over charging will damage them.

I dont know how much that applies to this particular phone but my last phone was a victom to it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Brendo:
I've never seen proof of this for any electrical device with a battery. besides, why would they make a cradle for devices if this was the case! and also, all batteries these days have builtin features that mean you can't over charge them
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] doublecheese:
Now is 11.59 am and my Touch Pro has been on for 4 hours and I still have FULL BARS on the battery indicator and also the battery shows FULL GREEN when I view it from Battery.

This means Turning OFF 3G really HELPS , if I didn't turn off 3G today , my battery would be drained to at least 70% by now !!!!!!

Turn OFF 3G if you don't need it ....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] doublecheese:
Ok Guys ,

I did my tests ,

First day phone on at 8.00am

Battery died at 10.30 pm

Second day I turned OFF "3G"

Phone on at 8.00am

10.30 pm my battery was 50 % full ,

As you can see my battery life almost DOUBLED when the 3G was turned off.

Both days I did same amount of calls, sms messages , browsing etc.

So try turning off 3G and for sure you will get better battery life depending on your Network Provider.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pmw:
This means Turning OFF 3G really HELPS , if I didn't turn off 3G today , my battery would be drained to at least 70% by now !!!!!!

Turn OFF 3G if you don't need it ....[/QUOTE]

Turning off 3G has made an enormous diference to battery performance for me too, both with my Universal and now my TP.

Interesting that the comments on battery and also overall performance, over the last month, seem to have been slowly but surely consolidating into a thumbs up for the TP. Many imperfections for this demanding user group, but still a very high performance device. As people use it and come to know it, its qualities come through.

There is a solution to the battery issue, aside from checking your realistic expectations. Buy a powermonkey. Small device that can charge your TP while you're in transit. Easy and light to carry, and helps keep things alive on a long day. There are no doubt alternatives to the powermonkey brand, or else just buy a second battery.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dabs:
I have seen 2 or 3 different laptops in the last couple years with completely defunct batteries as a result of leaving them charging for extended periods. I'm talking weeks/months here but it does happen.

Back on topic.. I also highly reccomend disabling UTMS when not in ues. Try installing the connection manager as a tab in touchflow, this lets you enable/disable UTMS almost instantly with only 2 screen taps.