yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Hey gpslover,

Well I'm back after a long time away, and I have to say when I posted the Dynamo 3 source-code I was hoping it really would get developed, and you've done an awesome job since that time! So thanks for all your hard work.

Couple of lingering things I'd love to see taken care of:

1. Holding down the center d-pad button still doesn't close an application.

2. Previous versions of TaskFacade would override TomTom when it was running, but with this current version RC5 it only shows the taskbar for a split second before going back to fullscreen TomTom, and TF is never activated. Hope this can be fixed for the next version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lantony:
Just removed the Samsung Task Switcher on my Omnia i900 and now using VERSION 4.0 RELEASE CANDIDATE-5. I really like the idea and the efficiency but i have one annoying bug:

almost everytime i close one or more process, going back to the today or to the spb shell menu, i see there is no network line anymore. It is solved bringing up the samsung dialer and closing it (green phone and red phone). Strange bug, have u ever heard of this? If this annoying bug could be resolved, this would be a really amazing program to me.

Anyway thanks for this GREAT utility!!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Memory leak

Really an impressing and must have application!!!

The only negative for me, is that as I use it, it makes gwes.exe to consume more and more of RAM (it reaches 20MB).

Hope that this memory leak could be fixed in a feature release...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mandragore:
Thanks!

I use AE Button Plus. It's not a TF issue, but don't you experience other applications catching and executing a single <Enter> click, before AEB catches the <Enter> doubleclick and runs TF?

When I remap the round <Enter> button doubleclick to run TF, doubleclicking runs TF. That's fine. But when I do this while I have Total Commander running in the foreground, TC performs an <Enter> before I see TF.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it's not TaskFacade.

it has no graphical memory leaks.

check other programs you installed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
The problem is that when I first load TaskFacade, gwes.exe has a "normal" value (lets assume 6-7MB).

As long as I use TaskFacade, the gwes.exe start to growing more and more and it reaches values of 20MB and more.

If then I terminate TaskFacade (using MemMaid), then the gwes.exe returbs to a value of 9 to 10MB.

Thats make me assume that is TaskFacade that produces the gwes.exe to consume that big ammount of RAM.:confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lantony:
yeah i noticed the same, the more i use it the slower the system :(

is the v 3.8.5 better maybe ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
No, it has the same effect (with gwes.exe), on me...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
please check RC6.

let me know if you still have it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
After a few time I tested it, I think that it is almost done!:D

As the number of the programs to be displayed by TaskFacade, is increasing, then the gwes.exe is growing up, too.

But when the number of the programs is decreasing, then the the gwes.exe, is decreasing too!:D

I will test it more time, and let you now about what I see.

Thank you very much for your effords!

Please, create a paypal account, so I can donate for your work.:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Well, that's what the Gwes actually does.

MSDN: Windows Embedded CE combines the Microsoft Win32® application programming interface (API), user interface (UI), and graphics device interface (GDI) libraries into the Graphics, Windowing, and Events Subsystem (GWES) module. GWES is the interface between the user, your application, and the operating system (OS).

It includes system graphical instruments, such as graphical cache etc.

As long as you use some graphical program, the system caches its instruments inside gwes.

When you release them, they 're gone.

Paypal... maybe in a couple of months, sorry. until that time, just use it free :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Thanks!:D

Your application is realy a must have!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
i was just thinking.. wouldnt it be better if when text went outside of its boundaries, that it doesnt get cut off, but instead relocates to "Align" and then uses "..." to let you know it goes outside of the boundaries?

just more visually clean :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
I was thinking that too, as well as perhaps having an auto-resize down to a certain minimum font for longer names. I'd prefer having one title be size 9 font as opposed to being just barely cut off.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] X2D:
edit: nm task facade apparently does not break 6.5.. the hunt continues
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordDeath:
Since the RC 6 TaskFacade doesn't crash anymore, when Pocket Player is running. Now I can enjoy this, too. :)

edit: I have to correct this:

After one day my device began to act strange. In resco explorer the file types where shown with the wrong icons. The start menu sometimes didn't show up and the idle CPU usage was over 25%. I closed Task Facade and the problems were gone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
i was just thinking, what about adding the ability to move through tasks with the finger, not just dpad?

so, you hold down with your finger to move through apps, but if you stay held on one for too long, then it gets marked for closure

so, say 200ms allows movement through apps by dragging around the screen with finger pressed down, and then 5-600ms is marking for closure

what do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mandragore:
On touchscreen devices you can manage tasks quick and easy through their previews, just by pressing them with your finger.

And if I keep pressing a preview with my finger for a short time, it already gets marked or unmarked for closure.

No need to move through tasks like with the D-pad, because the current aim, press, hold, and (un)mark already works fine for me. Unless I don't understand what you're thinking ;)

BTW gps-lover, RC6 feels quicker and it works and looks great!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] calculon:
Works well on ...

X7500 and X7501 in both Landscape and portrait modes.

Looking forward to trying the official release.

Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
c'mon guys!

where are the bug reports?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jolas:
Oops, I totally forgot...

Well, general it behaves pretty good.

Sometimes only, I see that the problem with gwes.exe is coming on again (I don't know why)

and some other times I face a problem with finger menu items, when finger menu pops up, it is just all black (instead of white background with black letters).

When I close some processes that running minimized (e.g. Resco Explorer), then everything is back to normal again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drew2000:
mobile 5 report

On my HTC Wizard QVGA mobile 5 still with the stock ROM it seems to run perfectly except I can't change themes. I have to stick with the "yellow" theme . I can change other details like the "frames" and such but I can't change to the "gloss" theme. Maybe I am doing something wrong but I am not new to customizing my phone but that doesn't mean I am not missing something!!??. It doesn't bother me because the current edition of your program looks fantastic. Thank you for your hard work, it is much appreciated. :rolleyes::D:o:D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] A2E:
I also just tried the latest RC on my Diamond, and can't switch to the Gloss theme (I can chose others, though - but the Gloss theme gives an error)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MadMax1978:
If you read back some pages you will find the answer how to fix the problem with the gloss theme!!!

Good luck!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] EnsconcE:
I found one, in your topic title ;) :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
TaskFacade4 released.

Enjoy.

:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
Version 4 looks and works great!

Of course the Pre has shown us a slightly better way. Any chance of implenting some of those features e.g closing a app by throwing it off the screen?

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
What is "Pre"?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
Palm Pre?

Let me find a youtube video.

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
Here we go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0k0BhSIvRI

See from 4:45 and especially around 5:50 onwards.

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
great update!!

thanks for the shoutout :D

it was a pleasure working with you! i think the themes turned out great and your app not only functions wonderfully now but looks great! :p

two things:

i am having a lot of difficulty accessing the options (in fullscreen mode there is almost no room to select anything but the snapshots if there are four snapshots open - qvga)

and there seem to be a lot of frames (too many) which result in a kind of jittery animation at least in qvga (what i mean is you can see like 100 frames tiling over each other during the animation - resulting in a torn-like animation sequence - if that makes sense)

this is a must have app, glad i could help out

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
1. options access when 4 slots showing - just open one more app ;) or tap in the middle of the screen if you have some SlotsGap. Or switch to a non-fullscreen mode.

2. 100 frames - very strange. don't know what are you talking about. did it happen in RC6?

did you set some large value in Options->AnimationFrames? By default it is 5.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tatnai:
No problem with my frames with 4.0, everything smooth like RC6. I have my frames set to 4.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
ok, now i got it.

Personally, I find that app meaningless, 'cause you do not have a full overview of your system from the first sight. You always have to scroll. You lose your time.

Also, do not forget:

1. It's another OS. Windows Mobile does not send a program's output to internal buffer. It means you cannot render a program into another window, like you see in that demo. WM applications draw to screen, only when they are active.

2. The demo device has hardware acceleration. That's why it's so fast in drawing gestured windows. Most of us have devices old enough not to have hardware acceleration. This means, the only thing we have is the standard WM rendering mechanism. But despite of this, we all want themes, nice titles etc. So let's wait until we have Nvidia chips in our devices. Then we move TF to 3D :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
oh, by the way!

Would it be possible for you to update your youtube clip to TF4?

That would be great!

Also, how do you guys think, what can we do to popularize TF4? It seems it is not known very well outside this forum...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wishmaster89:
gps-lover will you be working on openGL ES version?

Even msm72xx has openGL ES and upcoming tegra and snapdragon will have ES 2.0 so even now there are devices that would benefit from it.

Just look at slide-2-play it has 2 versions - standard and openGL which works very good on td/tp/x1/thd
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
do you have experience in programming GL?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wishmaster89:
Unfortunately not but if I had I would be more than glad to help you :)

Probably you will find some experienced programmers here that could help you. If not, there are many tutorials on the web that could help you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
It's a pity.

As far as i know from some articles on the net, there are not so many devices nowadays that really implement GL. as i understood, most of them have only a GL proxy that leads to usual GDI so that there is no real speedup. that's why i decided not go into it now.

However, if there is someone here on the forum who is willing to help me with OpenGL implementation - i will be glad to cooperate. Together we can try to go on.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pajaa:
Hi,

thank you very much for the usefull program, I am useing it on my Kaiser.

I can't have open tasks of Calendar, Contacts and Tasks in the same time.

Is it possible to solve that?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wishmaster89:
Yeah not all of them unfortunately have hardware openGL but all new HTC devices have it and all future will have (according to leaked roadmap all have GPU's just like current touch diamond).

On devices with proper hardware openGL ES it would really give a boost and allow more graphic rich effects (transition, fade in/fade out, transparency, etc).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
:) unfortunately not.

TF shows one slot per program.

and all of those are PocketOutlook (potlook.exe).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
i don't think the percentage of new devices is that big that we should address them right now.

but if there is an OpenGL guru willing to participate in upgrading TaskFacade, then we can go on with it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Wishmaster89:
Fair enough:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pajaa:
Hi,

thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
I will update it today, but I think with Pre mania, the best way you can popularize the app is by adding some Pre.

I dont think you need to do ALL of it.

I can see one (hopefully simple) thing you could do - implement the "Throw app of the screen to close" gesture.

Secondly, you could emulate the advanced transparency by using the screen shot from the last app, darkened, as the background for your app.

I dont think you need the whole ribbon thing or to make an exact copy, but adding the 2 above things would copy the functionality closely enough.

Again, great app, and I will be happy to promote it on my site.

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Soaa-:
Hi gps-lover, thanks for the wonderful app. I've been using it since RC6, and it's nice to see a new version up. I'm not a very experienced programmer, but I'd like a shot at an OpenGL implementation. I'm a quick learner who has hacked together a few small programs before. (:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Ang3lo:
Hello all,

First, I would like to thank a lot gps-lover and all the people who have contributed to TF, it is a really useful and nice app !

I have only a small problem on my Samsung Omnia : the process often seems to close itself so it often need a few time to lauch and program's pictures are not taken. I think it does not comes from TF but is there any way to fix it ?

I use a lite ROM with HTC Task Manager and Manilla.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
the animation thing did happen in rc6, its been happening in the 4.0 versions i think

basically i can see each frame of the animation overlaying over each other.. the animation itself is smooth, but it is kind of ugly since i can see dozens of the same window overlaying over each other to build up the animation if that makes sense.

i have it set to 6, i tested with other values, its not the speed that makes the difference its how the animation is being rendered

hopefully im not the only one getting this so it can be resolved :D

but its not a big deal, only a visual problem

otherwise it works wonderfully

thanks

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaBo:
Honestly, I don't see any advantage in Palm Pre implementation compared to TaskFacade.

I prefer seeing all running applications at once and not having to shuffle through them.

And even the '"swiping off" of applications in order to close them is just a visual gadget without any advantage in usability.

TaskFacade is just great.

It's one of my most used applications.

Sascha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
then why are you reporting it now??

it's the normal way of animation rendering in TF4. it's not a bug.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
thanks. my thoughts exactly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
Fully agree.

Strongly disagree. It would be a much faster way to close an app, and only involve one step instead of many.

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JNGold:
There is an advantage. The Pre implementation is BUILT IN to the OS. TaskFacade, while a nice application is just an application itself and is subject to WM's memory structure and OS limitations. There are times TF is unloaded from memory on my Diamond and I have to re-load it which does take time and makes the application less useful.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drew2000:
Running fine here

On my old Wizard (mobile 5) I have it set to start up so it is always there, I am sure you have it set up to start at start up as well but maybe it is just an issue with your PPC. Diamonds have been known to have issues, I have plenty of friends that are happy with the diamond but agree that there are issues with the PPC. Hopefully HTC will correct these issues with the Touch Pro2 and the Touch Diamond2. In fact two of my friends returned theirs for another brand. Thanks to gps-lover for a free program that runs smooth and htctoucher for the grand skins, a product that does what is promised. The Pre will have it's day, we will see how the masses like it......later.:D:D:eek:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JNGold:
There is no problem with the Diamond, only a problem with the way WM works. The great thing about WM is multitasking but it also a problem when it comes to memory management, especially when multiple items are running. For example, in order to make my Diamond usable for my purposes, I have running AEButtonPlus, TaskFacade, FingerMenu 1.10, S2U2, and PhoneWeaver. So when running large, memory hungry apps like Opera can cause some background apps that are in RAM to close down. I have found this to be the case with Taskfacade.

Obviously GPS-lover is not to blame. When TF is in RAM and running, it is one heck of an sweet app. However, in my daily use of the device if I have to launch it each time and have it load from scratch, it becomes less of a useful tool. It then becomes more efficient to use HTC Task Manager to close apps.

So my original response to the OP on it's comparison to something that is actually built in to the operating system still stands.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] drew2000:
I understand, for you there is an issue for others, maybe not. Point made and understood and agreed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
The solution is to run the app as a service, not a process, which gets around the 32 process limit.

New video up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaQdaLkuLm4

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tatnai:
How do I do that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Thanks. Updated the 1st post.

But you know, this video glares a lot. Would it be possible for you one day to update it in some darker environment?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
cuz i thought it would be changed in the final release :D

its not a huge problem.. and i know its not a bug, i just preferred how it used to be rendered cuz it looked smoother

but it really isnt a big deal!!

thanks man

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] surur:
I'll see what I can do.

Surur
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chronster:
I love this app (and therefore I love you for making it) but I'm using AEButton Plus to assign this app to a long key press on my phone.

In a future version, is there any way in the preferences you could allow this app to take care of that sort of thing? If I could close aebutton plus running in the background, it would oepn up some ram for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
hey guys, did you like switching the themes on the fly?

isn't that cool? :)

also, did you notice that long titles are not cut both sides anymore?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] apinkel:
I'm new to TF... love it so far. I didn't see the old version but I do like having the ability to change themes on the fly.

I'm going to throw out a request... if this has already been posted, I apologize in advance...

I know this is intended as a task switcher but one other thing I'd love to be able to do is to "pin" an app to my task switcher (i.e. show the task even if the task isn't currently running in the background). I'd use this to pin the "all programs" page to task facade so that I could quickly go select a program to run.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
well i just plain love this app :D

it works perfectly.. changing themes is great in version 4, and i love tht you addressed the long titles being cut off

thanks for all the hard work

its great seeing such a developer that really listens to the user's suggetions

much appreciated!

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
Great job! Loved the latest release but I can't use it on the rom I'm running now, so sad.

I'm using a TyTN II running 6.S build 21193 roms. On Anryl's rom, I get a crash message and jumbled screen. On Josh's rom, it works beautifully.

You guessed right, I'm using Anryl's rom now.

Any suggested action or suspected case will be appreciated. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Jokes On You:
Hey gps lover I really love this app would it be possible to include an integrated task manager with the close button? Like tapping the close button will close the app and a long press brings up task facade?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
GUYS! IF YOU LIKE TASKFACADE4 - PLEASE POPULARIZE IT!

PUBLISH AN ARTICLE ON YOUR WEB PAGE. LIKE HERE ON WMPOWERUSER.COM
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jambaj0e:
Yea, how do you do that? there are a couple other things I'd like to keep running as a service, too
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
thank you for your kind words, htctoucher.

glad you like it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Iceman692:
is there any way to stop Task Facade from showing up in the running programs list in QuickMenu?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mandragore:
Run TaskFacade first, then run QuickMenu - select QuickMenu Options - select Exclude tab - press Add button - select TaskFacade in the list of running programs - select TaskFacade in the list of excluded programs - select radio button: Not show, Not close or Both not - press OK left soft button.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nicotin:
I have installed task facade 4 after unistall the 3...but I have show that I can't end plus of one program in the same time...i can do this with the third version...is possible? Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
gpslover,

Thanks for your hard work on this app. It continues to get better and better. I haven't had many issues throughout the RC process, but I noticed something with this new release. When I "hide" a program, it doesn't stay hidden. After pressing the hide button and exiting the options screen (back to the app selection page), the program that I just set to Hide, is still present. When I switch to a different app, the go back to TF, the app is then hidden. However, if I close TF and restart it, then all the previously hidden apps are visible again. I believe this was a known issue a long time ago. Again, I haven't had any issue with the previous RC builds, just the newest release.

Also, I remember a theme that was a part of one of the betas that used a yellow border for the selected item, but he corners were rounded over. If anyone knows where to find this theme, please post a link. I haven't been able to find it.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] branedge:
switch to today

i apologize if this has been covered but i searched and didn't find it. Is it possible to have the today screen as an option when swapping programs. i use (used to use) the alt+tab feature from (i believe sbp mobile shell) and this was an option.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wonsanim:
Some Problems & Need Help

Hi GPS-Lover i just install TaskFacade 4 but can't fix the settings,can't configure the todays or the screens i like in my front page and even i touch the icon in the upper bar don't open.if is posible to find some manual.or how i can find some tutorials.I'm using PB,iL and WA2 in an HTC X7510 WM 6.1 Original HTC Rom.