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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
Please dont assume you know me or what I am capable of doing. I'm well rehearsed in file system modification, thank you very much. That doesnt mean that using programs like SKtools are useless. Nor does it mean that anyone can use it - you still need to understand what the changes mean and what they will end up doing. I would never tell a "noob" to just click on anything in the program. I only suggested that here since folks on this forum are not your typical user.

If you dont like the program, fine. I found it to be a great help hence the reason for posting.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
I wonder if dcd uses this program when building his own roms...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] x51:
In my experience I've found the following:

DCD has tweaked the hell out of these roms for performance. I'm sure he hasn’t performed every tweak possible.. but he's done a lot.

Programs like Tweaks2k2 and SKtools when run across the board may in fact undo many of the tweaks performed by DCD. Because they are designed to work off of the stock settings.

For example DCD may have tweaked some Cache setting entry in the registry from 4K to 16K because he found the performance to be best... A program Like SK tools may change that to 8k, Because 8k would normally improve performance over the default 4k setting.

Also.. those of you who do a full backup (including the Registry) Then install a DCD rom, then restore may have also overwritten DCD default tweaks. So a Tool like this could increase performance for you… more than someone who didn’t perform a restore.

When you install a DCD Rom, you should re-install your software either manually or with an automated tool.. restoring from backup is probably not the best idea because you risk losing the latest performance tweaks. This is the cause of LOTS of the people reporting that "this or that" isn't working on theirs... but it works on everyone elses... They overwrote it.

You are better off finding these tweaks, going into the Reg and seeing what you HAVE vs what the tweak says will perform better… you may already be optimized or MORE optimized than the tool would make you.

In the end it's really about individual user preference and how you use your device. As we see in this thread for some the tools are great, for others.. not so good.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] tntopspin:
Okay, so you can't recall or won't post any specifics of what tweaks you did and you said earlier you did ALL the tweaks SKT offers, then you say "a few of the system tweaks." Of course, "depending on what you did" doesn't jive at all with "Honestly, I ran every ..... tweak..." IF you got improved results after SKT, you should surely recall something. What was the original result vs the improved? You can't recall how much improvement, but it was "significant." You can't recall ANY real benchmark results and you "lost the log files both times." How convenient.

Previously we witnessed your unwillingness in another thread to list ANY of your specific software (even when I sent you a private message) which you said runs better on a stock VZW ROM vs DCD. Claims that can't be tested, of course, are very convenient.

Skepticism about someone's motives and truthfulness result from making unverifiable, undocumented claims. Do yourself a favor and post some specifics.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] x51:
WOW.. :eek:

First: SKtools is NOT "Recoding files" All SKtools does is make registry changes for performance.. thats it! And those are pretty easy if you know how to use a registry editor.. (the registry is where those "System settings for the OS" are that you are talking about)

Second.. Thats the point of a DCD rom.. when you install a DCD rom The tweaks that he's tested are already there. He's building a rom that has more features and performs better than stock. He's not just some hack who is removing things.. He's recompiling the entire rom. I'm not sure to what extent DCD actually recodes any files... but I DO know that he includes custom files that others may have made / recoded.

The fact that you would even suggest that SKtools has the ABILITY to do more than DCD or GC14 or any other experienced mobile developer takes the gold medal for dumbest thing I've heard this month.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] b0ris84:
i've tried

honestly i've tried those programs and i believe while they are tweaking some things they undo some of the stuff that dcd has done to make the rom work like it does. All i use its tweaks2k2 for a few options that i really like but no more sktools for me
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
0% chance. dcd knows what he's doing already.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
Did you read the reason for editing at the bottom of the post? :p
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
Yes. Just driving the point home to deez and everyone else still thinking that SKTools makes dcd's ROMs faster.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
Please re-read the posts in this thread as I list which tweaks I ran.

I didnt post that information since the thread was hijacked and I wasnt about to give in to a troll's demands. I got your PM. Unfortunately, I have a full-time job which prevents me from posting during the day. I also have a home business I run at night. I started to write you a reply and will finish it when I can. I only have a few minutes here and there this weekend as I am doing more work this weekend. Dont worry, I havent forgotten about you.

Listen guys, if you dont want to believe it, then dont - you arent hurting my feelings or anyone elses. But are you honestly going to sit in front of your computers without having tried anything and tell me and others that these things dont work without having tried it yourself?

Again, I'm posting my impressions - its so ridicuclous to think that some of you would actually dismiss someone's experiences without trying it out for yourself. And even then, its your experience. I said I would try and get some numbers - but I also dont feel like wasting my labor day off flashing and reflashing to get some numbers. I noticed a difference in performance after the tweak and so reported it here - does it really matter to you all if your experience with the dcd rom has already been positive?

Its actually kind of funny how some you of get so butt hurt when any kind of critique comes along involving dcd's rom. His rom speaks for itself and I dont think he needs (or wants) anyone defending what he does. He does a well enough job as it is that he doesnt need some e-tough guy trying to beat down those who may have less than stellar experiences with his rom.

The really funny thing is how hypocritical everyone is - people complain I havent posted numbers, yet NO ONE has posted numbers showing how much better a dcd rom is over stock - yet everyone says that it is and it is accepted as an absolute truth.

At least we can all agree that dcd rom's are or can be better than whatever vzw, htc, or M$ put out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
Its not so much that we collectively here get "butt hurt" and "e-tough" when someone critiques dcd roms, its the fact that when you started posting recently all over first claiming stock was faster with some programs, then that dcd's is faster after running this or that tweak, it sounds like you dont really know what you are talking about when you post.

Me personally, I know nothing when it comes to PPCs. I had a Q before the titan, and a long laundry list of motorola handsets before that. I have been "hacking" phones since before there was a razr. I recently have moved over to WM phones and I am still learning a lot. But I read for probably six months before ever posting on here, I tried quite a few of these programs when I got my XV6800 and they seemed to use more ram stock than they were worth. I flashed it so much, I didnt bother loading contacts for weeks until I finally flashed a dcd rom. Try all the other ROM makers too, they have great stuff. I like DCD's stuff because it is so stable.

I know less than you do obviously about PPC development. I quit tweaking reg entries for speed and memory a long time ago, as DCD pretty much has his ROMs optimized for RAM and speed.

Plus, if you want to give any of your posts credibility, you better post some bench mark results or screenshots or something. After all, the first words in the thread title are HOW TO

And you are right, nobody is going to post bench marks because nobody is going back to stock to test it. So I guess this is a thread about arguing opinions, adding no real value to the community. My ignorance should not be arguing either. My apologies.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
well I see there is no hope for this hijacked thread...

I dont think people understand what it means to optimize an OS. Can anyone state for sure how DCD is optimizing his roms for ram and speed? To me, that means writing new code for certain files or changing default setting(s). I dont think he is writing new code, though I could be wrong. Maybe we should just ask him...however, there are other ways a system can be "optimized":

Some of the files that are substituted out (like pulling another devices app, etc) and replaced by another devices app and putting it into a 6800 rom can definitely be considered optimization as the settings and file structure for that app may actually run better on the 6800. This most certinaly is done by dcd and others.

ROMs can be certinaly be made to perform better when certain features are left out. This is something that is definitely done with dcd and other roms.

As for credibility, I dont care - just look at my user name. Does it look like I'm trying to make an impression on others online? This isnt a job for me - my salary doesnt depend on it. So whether people find my posts credible or not doesnt appeal to me. I just wanted to reference my experiences, thats all.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
I used to jack up the glyphcache reg entry from stock (4096 i think) to 32768, but that is part of the default registry in a dcd rom. There are vast threads pertaining to speed and performance hacks like this on here and ppcgeeks. the problem is that they affect other things like free RAM and battery performance. I dont really know if dcd is "recoding" parts of WM or if he just tests and defaults to the settings that seem to be the best balance of free ram, battery life and speed. That is what I meant by my using the term "optimized".

Try setting HKLM/System/GDI/glyphcache value to 65536 (double DCD's value from 3.2.6) And soft reset. Check your RAM on boot, then run it like that for a few days. For me, perhaps it was a fluke but changing that made a noticeable difference in battery life and RAM. Thats just one reg entry I have toyed with and eventually left where it comes in DCD's roms.

Seriously, lets start discussing actual tweaks like this. Maybe I will get some benchmarking software and learn how to use it too. Gonna have to learn sometime.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
agreed - is there an actual "tweaks" thread? If not, there should be

Will take a look into that tonight
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
Then I would suggest you need to get out more :D

And no, I did not suggest that sktools can do more than what dcd or others do - that was your interpretation and your assumption. Though after re-reading a previous post of mine, it was a little misleading and for that I apologize as I can see where some may have misinterpreted it. SKtools does not write any code - but it does go deep into the root of the file system. This is not always an easy thing to change as not everything operates indepedently - changing one registry may or may not have the desired result you want as it may rely on other registry entries. ence the reason optimization may best rely on recoding, so that you can cover your bases.

As you implied, DCD and others may not be recoding files. Any registry tweaks they are doing are great - but like any OS or application development, R&D involves testing on multiple levels. Thats where we come in - just because he and others release a rom doesnt mean everyone is going to have the same experience. Take Vista for example - well, maybe thats not the best example since everyone has said it sucks. But take any XXX application - there are always folks who have no problems with it, as well as those who do.

DCD and others cant take into account every which way that we will use our device, or every application that will be used. THAT is the reason why I keep saying its not an absolute - experiences will very.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] x51:
Deez, I'm not personally Picking on ya.. I'm sure that SKTools worked well for you. And everyone is entitled to thier opionion.. I just strongly disagree on your assesment of DCD's involvement in these roms, and what SKTools actually does...

But I already addressed this.. You talk about writing code... SKTOOLS ONLY Tweaks Reg Keys for optimization... thats it.. It doesn't write code. It does not modify OS files. And I'm not sure what Deep registry editing even is :confused: Honestly.. I think it's you who does not understand what it mans to optimize an OS. Perhaps you are a software developer as many of us in this this forum are.. perhaps you do know what your talking about and I'm wrong.. but.. I dont think so.;)

DCD takes a rom, puts the newest and / or most efficient parts together.. (Swapping files as you say) then tweaks the registry (like SKTools.. but better) and releases it. I'm not certian what if any Code writing / Developement he does.. but he DOES use Various drivers and files coded by others for sure.

I'd like to see GC14 or DCD jump in and answer that myself to end the speculation.. But regardlss of what any of these developers do... SKTools changes the registry.. any noob with a reg editor can do these things if they can simply find the keys and what should be changed. SKTools simply makes this easy because you can do it with a few clicks.. but SKTools may undo the reg tweaks DCD already did.

SKtools is a really nice program, and I use it for the memory compacting utility.. but the tweaks.. nothing magical.. just reg tweaks.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kdj67f:
One of the more extensive methods, never noticed a difference besides losing more RAM.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=30876

There were a few older threads over at ppcgeeks, but it seems they did some house cleaning and I am having a hard time searching the right key words to find them again. People say most of the reg tweaks from the apache will work on the titan, but I dont know about that and have not had any good luck trying some of them. I think that has to do with the apache having a lot of WM5 support.

The amount of performance gained over some of these tweaks I could never notice, as I do not game heavily or do not have applications to use the added functionality.

Back to searching for me...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
I agreed with you - see my post above which replied to one of your earlier posts.

Well, now I'm going to be picky, but it does modify the OS file - the registry is an OS file and is needed for proper OS operation

Thats my description of doing something more than just changing a registry edit so that your device information states the bill of rights instead of displaying actual device information :) Its getting to the core of the registry where a slight miscalculation will render your system inoperable. Many registry edits will only cause small headaches - some will really mess up your machine - its those that I am referring to.

No am not a software developer (how can you tell?) - but I'm also no stranger to computers, coding, etc. If anything, I should have been clearer as to what I meant when I said optimize, as it seems it has many different interpretations here and lay people like me speak differently than you software engineers - my bad.

There's really nothing there that I disagree with :thumbsup: Except for the fact I dont know what dcd and others do to the registry since it isnt clearly written anywhere. How do they go about figuring what to tweak, etc is what I would like to know.

And I know you arent picking on me :cool: (wish there were more smilies then the few we have to choose from)

It would be great to have a thread in which DCD and others talk about the process they go through in the development of a rom....would be a great learning experience
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
I hate having to search all over the internet for different threads - was hoping to have a similar thread right here. In any case, nice find.

Now gaming - that is where we should invest our time and energy into looking for differences between the stock rom and a custom rom. And am not talking about those whimpy freeware games, but doom and the like. Getting some numbers from these apps would be neat.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] x51:
Damn! You got me.... LOL :p

How I'm familiar with DCD tweaks is that I found a few good Tweak sites for this phone.. listing a pile of reg tweaks.. I used to use it when the phone was stock.

After flashing each of DCD roms I'd manually go there and to do the tweaks, but they were either already done.. or they were different than stock AND the recommended tweaks. And each rom.. I notice some things are a bit different.. because testing and feedback from users causes him to modify these values... like at one point for battery life he set the LCD to turn off right away after a call connected.. but it turnd out to be a pain for some people, and it was undone in the next rom.

I'm sure he's modified more than the values I'm familiar with.. but I couldnt tell you what ones without exporting a stock reg and running a file compare.

I'm sure he tweaks these things to his personal choice and I change some things he sets up by default because I have a different preference...

But it's all good.. Like I said I use SKtools myself.. but only in a limited fashion. ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
:D

I'm going to explore more those reg ed sites and start comparing - need to experiment more. But like you said (and consistent with what I mentioned earlier), its likely that some things are his personal preference- he and others cant obviously satisfy everyone (though he makes a great attempt)

Too bad the delete thread feature isnt enabled...seems like this would be a good one to see vanish :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] x51:
Remember when ou search google, this phone is not just the titan, but xv6800, mogul, ppc6800, among other things.

These are lots of generic Windows Mobile tweaks:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/archive/index.php/f-27.html

More:

http://www.verizonxv6800.net/Default.aspx?tabid=78&ptid=462&threadid=3031&forumtype=posts
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] tntopspin:
Thanks. I also have a job. :-) I'll work around 45-50hrs in the next 4 days and that's down a tad from my normal load because of the holiday. Perhaps some of us type faster than others?

Personally, if I had experienced a "HUGE" increase in performance by doing some tweak, I'd PM dcd (and/or start a thread, as you did) to let him know EXACTLY what I did, what changed, etc. and begin a dialogue about the tweaks/changes. THAT would be good for the community. Any tweaks SKT can provide that will help the majority of people dcd can slip into the ROM and gladly would, I assume, if he knew it would create a "HUGE" increase the ROM's performance. I saw dcd jump into the thread about the GPS server SPECIFICALLY to attempt to verify the results and start some dialogue toward a better, more GPS friendly VZW ROM. It's clear dcd is willing to work with the community to improve his ROMs and I'm sure he's read this thread also, since the title mentions him, and, frankly, his....... silence...... speaks...... volumes..... about.... this.... thread.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] myculito:
Okay, annoying problem:

After running the "Optimize" features, i'm now starting to get the "Message Sent" pop-up once I send an SMS message.

How do I revert back prior to making changes in this app?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] x51:
Yeah.. me too.

Actually I couldn't have a spirited debate with deeznuts unless I tried it :rolleyes:, and it caused me a few issues as well...

the SMS sent notification is back, the dialer popup fix was undone, the single line date on the homescreen was undone.. and my Glyphcache settings I set myself were lowered (but set higher than stock would be)

I'm also draining battery really fast.. but that could be something else. The previous 4 items were reg tweaks that got overwritten.. battery drain is because something is using CPU all the time... doesn't sound like something this app would cause.

I like the memory utility on this app a lot.... (Credit to Deez for that) the freeupram utility works better than memmaid (IMO)

To answer the question how to fix?

You just need to search the forum or google.. all of these are reg tweaks you can put back easy enough.

There IS a "restore original data option", but I've been afraid to try it... not clear on if it will resore the changes it made to the original as in "before it changed them" or as in "windows defaults".. I'm going to try it when DCD releases a new rom... Because I'll be flashing and re-installing anyway.. ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] deeznuts2:
Actually, the app probably would cause faster battery drain since the default optimize is set to performance. So unless you picked a different profile setting, running optimize is going to set the registry (according to the program) to run faster, hence more battery drain. You can try one of the other settings or play around with your own.

Its one of those give and take situations

Freeupram program is the bomb!

Without dcd's direct input its hard to say, but if I had to guess, his reg tweaks are a good balance between performance and memory. This program just takes the device to either extreme.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gaelchristie:
Forgive the language, but? Cannot split screen apps on sm-t900 pro tab 12.2 w/ 5.1 update that i can on all other Samsung tablets. Develop options does not include 'resizing' and apk software edits (multistar) won't load. Help please.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] d3vi13:
I think I bricked the phone. I had custom rom for 3 years, now I needed to install newer version of android(bank app) and I flashed Android Ice Cold Project 15.0 [HEROLTE] + gapps.

I had problems with root and couldn't get into twrp recovery(3.5.0_9-0) with reboot to recovery. So I tried with power button combo and I got in. There I don't know that I did, but phone won't boot, it will boot into twrp recovery every single time, can't switch phone off either, it will just boot me into recovery.

Then I was looking for solutions online and made it even worse. Now data is 0MB and I get error that says failed to mount /data. I still have acces to memory card, where is zip file for rom. I can't even turn phone off now.

Is there something that I can do to save the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Deleted member 9635294:
you have forced encryption you are snapdragon or exynos?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] d3vi13:
exynos
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Deleted member 9635294:
have sd card or not?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] d3vi13:
I do.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Deleted member 9635294:
busy working see ya 2 hours later
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers] Deleted member 9635294:
maybe this will work

https://xdaforums.com/t/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-disk-quota-disabler-11-2-2020.3817389/