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[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] sgf483:
Hi, I am on stock rom and for a long time I haven't had anything to do with custom roms. Official support recently ended for this phone. Is it possible to install lineageos rom so that it works properly like the official rom (banking software etc.)? Or maybe will there be some problems from time to time and it is a game of cat and mouse all the time despite the existence of tools like PlayIntegrityFix?

My goal is for the device to work properly and for me to not have a headache because of software issues. Before I spend time studying threads, I would like to know if it is even possible at the moment. Otherwise, I will have to think about a new device.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] blu.italia:
Does anyone know will we receive LOS 21 for surya?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pan_Nekdo:
I've been using this phone with LOS as my daily driver for more than 2 years and never really encountered any problems with banking apps or G Pay. I'm not sure how much changed with the switch from SafetyNet to PlayIntegrity, I am still using SafetyNetFix and the apps still work (although the app of my bank detected root, however, it let me proceed).

But it's important to remember that by system updates (which come weekly) you lose root access and you need to reflash Magisk zip. If you don't have an SD card, it might be problem if you don't have access to computer (with SD card, you can flash it from it).
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] fhloston:
I assume this firmware.zip can just be flashed as is in recovery?

However the Lineage Wiki [1] explicitly lists unziping and selective fastboot flashing of single partions.

I do not understand why this would be neccessary? Can someone please shed some light on this?

Thank you

Martin

[1] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/surya/fw_update
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] sgf483:
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[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] dribgnikcom:
Is there any way to calibrate the compass? It is absolutely useless.

EDIT: It works very well with Mi's compass program.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] clonato:
Hi

which configuration are you using with SafetyNet?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tminus3:
Hi All,

I'm thinking about flashing my trusty X3 NFC with either LOS or Arrow.

I'm on Arrrow v12.1 right now, but I can't seem to get the camera working properly (takes 5-10 seconds to take a picture or switch sensors, slow motion and time lapse videos won't work).

Since I've used LOS with great pleasure before I was wondering how the cameras are working, and how do I install from my current rom?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] lojelo:
I've just installed LOS on my Poco x3 nfc things are fine until I installed Brave browser. I am having problems with Brave browser it's the only program that is making LOS freeze and I have to keep hold of the power button to get out of it so the phone has to power down completely.

Anyone else had this problem?

Ps. Wish I kept quiet now chrome is also freezing.

This is happening on the latest nightly release.

Just an update on this will start with how I actually put LOS on my phone

I followed this video I don't usually flash things this way I have used TWRP to flash my Samsung tablets in the past but thought I would try it this way for a change.

Though since doing so I have had nothing but problems

Brave and Chrome keep freezing most times needing a power down so phone works again.

I now keep getting System UI is not responding.

When charging, the battery it reaches 88% and stops there for over an hour before eventually reaching 100%.

So last night I put twrp-3.7.0_12-4-surya-16.12.img what I want to know is can you wipe and format all the data on the phone and then flash the Poco x3 nfc with LOS then add MindTheGapps-13.0.0-arm64-20230808_213316 and use the fix for playstore via trwp.

Thanks for any advice and help
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] lojelo:
Well I did a clean install using twrp and still Chrome and Brave freeze constantly looks like I might have to try another ROM.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] osm1000:
Integration "charging control" feature for Lineage rom for poco x3 nfc

Hello, please can you integrate the "charging control" feature in settings, battery. The feature is already integrated in my lineage phones "xiomi mi mix 2" and "mi 8"... See screenshots:

With this feature you can set that the phone stops automaticly charging at the percentacy you have set.

Thank you
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pan_Nekdo:
Do you use battery saver? At least for me it makes the phone completely unusable, without it it's just fine.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] lojelo:
No @Pan_Nekdo

I tried everything mate but no matter what I did both froze after a few seconds of opening, I had enough of it and installed crdroid not had any problems with any apps or freezing at all.

Though since installing crdroid I am having problems installing anything else or even doing much inside twrp I keep getting

cannot decrypt adopted storage because /data will not mount

unable to mount storage

unable to mount /data/recovery/.twrps

So it looks like I might have to flash twrp again see if that fixes the above problem.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] alksndb:
Try in settings set 90 HZ maximum refresh rate instead 60 Hz. I have this problem and with max 60 herc poco is laginga! And THIS bug cant fix about year!
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] lojelo:
I've already changed to crdroid

[ROM][Android 14.0][SURYA] crDroid v10.6 [OFFICIAL][09-07]

*** Disclaimer I am not responsible for any damage you made to your device You have been warned crDroid is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device also attempting to bringing many of the best features...

xdaforums.com
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] alksndb:
I yesterday also changed to crdroid. And it not have this bug and brightness slider you can ajust much better in settings... First look that crdroid much better than leanage..
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Mufasa82:
..moved
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] diegopl2:
Hi all, I have flashed last LOS nightly in my Poco x3 NFC and I'm not able to activate NFC, if a press the greyed button nothing happens and after a minute that button dissapear.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] diegopl2:
Solved flashing Miui firmware version LOS wiki recommeds and reflashing LOS again. It works like a charm =)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] diegopl2:
Will we have LOS 21?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pumpino:
It seems that crDroid is currently the only option if we want Android 14.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] diegopl2:
Finally I bought a Poco F5 for 260€ last week. It has much more comunity working on it. Today I'll be able to unlock bootloader and I'll try with Paranoid. I'll still keep on using my x3 as a second phone.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Noter2017:
There are plenty of Android 14 ROMs out there for the Poco X3 like Bananadroid, Derpfest, OctaviOS, Cherish OS, Evolution X, Paranoid Android.

Or unofficial Lineage 21 builds from Shimitar/Gardiol:

LineageOS for POCO X3 - Google Drive
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] arimen:
LineageOS 21 (Android 14)

I tried today's version 20240415 of LineageOS 21 (Android 14),

updated fw: miui_SURYAEEAGlobal_V14.0.5.0.SJGEUXM

recovery 20240415 installed ok

but...

after adb sideload installed lineage-21.0-20240415-nightly-surya-signed.zip

and MindTheGapps-14.0.0-arm64-20240225_232108.zip

all looked ok, but after reboot to system it is in neverending boot loop with "POCO"...

any solution for this?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
Hi.

I installed Los 20 on my Poco X3 NFC

Sometimens it freezes.

For example scrolling browser page, I have to wait or press home button and reopen browser.

Anyone had the same behaviour?

Thanks a lot
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] wilsonhlacerda:
Old bug on refresh rate. Set minimum to 60 and max to 90, or 90/90, or 120/120 and reboot.

The way you are currently using if you turn on to show FPS on developer settings you'll see sometimes it slows to 30, what triggers the bug.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
I read about refresh rate problem.

I tried to set for example min 90 max 90, rebooting as well, but the "show FPS" always shows 60, so it doesn't seem to use my settings.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] mcsmart:
No. Lineage 20 is super stable and perfectly reliable for me.

But: If you have just started playing with LineageOS it might be wise to wait for a few days. The Poco X3 NFC has been officially promoted to LineageOS 21 recently (Android 14) so builds should be available in the next few days.

Then you could start with a clean flash of LOS 21. Oh, and make sure your firmware is up to date.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] wilsonhlacerda:
I myself use 60/90 without problems. For regular usage (I don't game) it is fine and nice for battery.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
are you sure it is working the FPS settings?Could you try to set 90/90 and "Show FPS" to verify if it is working so showing 90 ?

For me, it happens that it alwasy is on 60
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] wilsonhlacerda:
My 60/90 works fine, switches as expected when Show FPS is on.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
Is your device rooted?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
Do you know when Los 21 will be released for Poco X3 NFC?

Thanks a lot
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] mcsmart:
The next build will be LOS 21.

Builds for our device (surya) used to be created on Mondays, so my guess is that downloads should be available by the end of tomorrow. In case there are issues with the build we might have to wait for another week.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] wilsonhlacerda:
Yes, but this does not make a difference.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] wilsonhlacerda:
If it is your main device I'd prefer to flash newest LOS 20 (15 days ago) and stay on it for 1 or 2 months at least, till when LOS 21 seems to be stable for all and then update. Last week 21 release for instance had to be reverted cause of bug.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pan_Nekdo:
Not to mention the first update from 18 to 19.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] unono:
I was on microg version unlike yours with gapps, but had similar issue (got boot loop after upgrading).

I wiped the data off, and re-flashed, but that didn't solve the issue either.

Since I could not flash lineage anymore, I ended up with flashing different ROM (for my case, E / OS).

I was so pissed that I lost my data and wasted my time for several hours, but at least now I got my device finally working (though I'm back on android 13 with E / OS).
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pumpino:
The first official build of LOS 21 is now available. It needs to be flashed using a computer.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pumpino:
I flashed the first official LOS 21 build. With Nova launcher, the recent apps screen doesn't work. That makes things rather tricky. I don't know that flashing LOS 20 over the top would be a good idea.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] arimen:
I was impatient too, anyway I'm back on Lineage 20 (A13), and will wait a few weeks (months) at least..

Poco X3 is my main mobile, so I can't experiment so much with it..

I gave the LOS 21 a lot of chances, wiped all partitions,... but unfortunatelly nothing more - just boot loops.

Maybe it is because my fw is European, and admins of Poco X3's LOS are from different part of World...
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
Are you speaking about Los21 released today?

I have Los20 with European firmware as well..
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Pumpino:
Solid Explorer won't load for me with LOS 21, even when using the stock launcher. I guess I'll have to flash LOS 20 and hope for the best. I suspect I'll end up having to wipe days though. :(
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
I upgraded to LOS21, following the guide, so wipe and so on.

It works perfectly, no more freezes!

The only small bug comparing LOS21 vs LOS 20, not only on Poco X3 NFc but I saw this in another device as well:

LOS21 : If you deselect "Use vibration & haptics" when you unlock the phone by fingerprint, it still vibrates.

LOS20 : If you deselect "Use vibration & haptics" when you unlock the phone by fingerprint, it doesn't vibrate anymore.

***EDIT

Workaround

I solved forcing with adb shell

cmd appops set com.android.systemui VIBRATE ignore
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] arimen:
as I wrote before, it was version from past week: 20240415

next attempt will be after a few weeks (I hope)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] arimen:
it's good news... so I'll try to wait 1-2 weeks, and if everything will be ok, I'll be on LOS21 too..

please inform us about all parts you can test...

do you use "Open Camera" too?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tatankam@hotmail.com:
no, I didn't know "open Camera"

I use the embedded app on LOS21
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] DarkZek:
I tried to dirty flash from 20 -> 21, it seemed to work okay until I tried to reinstall magisk & pixelify. It turns out Pixelify doesn't work even after even a clean install so I will be staying on v20 https://github.com/Kingsman44/Pixelify/issues/280
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] clonato:
Hi

i did a dirty flash from 20 to 21 + MindTheGapps 14 + Magisk and all work like a charm
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] gueschmid:
I did it too.

I nstalled new recovery in fastboot. Than appied LOS21 an Minthegapps14 in recobery from SDCard. Everything I tested yeysterday worked.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] bhx93:
I did a clean installation, with NikGapps, magisk and pixelify. Everything works fine, with A slight detail, the Android system intelligence (SIA) updates to the latest version and disables features
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] DarkZek:
Oh that's awesome, I used MindTheGapps - that must be it
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] TioCareca:
What features get disable?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] bhx93:
Live captions, live translation, now playing, text selections between apps.

But, You can download the correct version and install it manually. And everything works again.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Mckol:
I'm having the same issue, exact same firmware version, using `lineage-21.0-20240418-microG-surya.zip`, with either the Lineage recovery or TWRP 3.5.2-0, I have tried the cleanup procedure and it didn't help.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] arimen:
I installed this week version 20240429 on Friday (Lineage 21 + Lineage reocvery)... and it works very well, it seems...

Tomorrow I'm waiting first update 20240506... maybe you could wait for this version..
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] haupauge:
hi, if you have used the same firmware as specified (V14.0.5.0.SJGEUXM), then you have used the wrong one for the global version. on the lineage page, a different one (V14.0.2.0.SJGMIXM) is required for the global version. follow the steps from the official website. greetings
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] tutankpusch:
How can i find out, which firmware i am running? i am on the latest LOS that was before LOS 21 (lineage-20.0-20240408-nightly-surya) but this system is installed maybe early 2022 or so. but V14.0.5.0.SJGEUXM and V14.0.2.0.SJGMIXM are from end 2023.

i wanna know if i was on europe or global miui before and have no clue how to find out (i presume europe...).what do i need to do to try a "dirty" upgrade?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] asif85477:
installed the latest update today.bluetooth is not working.any fix?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] TioCareca:
Working fine for me.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ImmortalOP:
Did you clean flash it? If yes did you used the correct firmware?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] H0rdak:
Hello, I have a question about the LineageOS 21 installation: I got the info that you can't get from 20 to 21 via the "normal" update process. Do you have to sideload this update via the ADB or can you simply install the build file on the external card and then install it with TWRP?

Regards
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Franxooiis:
Hello,

Sorry to re up this old message.

I have a X3 NFC with ghost touch. I know it's an hardware issue but Xiaomi introduced a fix in last MIUI roms and it works. I use the last official ROM since mid 2023, and I don't have ghost touch anymore. In the past, I used ArrowOs, but I add to revert to MIUI because of the screen issue.

Now that my perfectly working device is EOL, do you know if there is a way to use LineageOS (or another custom rom) while having a software fix for ghost touch ? I saw a reddit post saying we can fix the issue trying other firmware ?
[LG G7 ThinQ  Accessories] digiciber:
Good, I have a lg g7 thinq flahs crossed, before it was from the verizon company and now it has the Canadian kdz, I changed the load flex because it was damaged but when placing the flex European or Korean version it does not raise a signal but everything else does work. place the damaged one if you get a signal again why this case is due, thank you.
[General Questions and Answers] fastox:
hello to all staff and members in this community im new here i dont know anything for updating or upgrade os and this things so im new to this stuff so if someone could help me if there is way to upgrade my lg spirit h420 with android 6 to android 7 and above or a custom os which is about same i tried to do some things i see in video like activale developer options there is only option for debbugin mode but no oem unlocking in so i was thinking and in general what things i need to do this sorry if what i say is very difficult or impossible to do so i said to ask before i do anything further and damage is done thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] fastox:
this files i have downloaded i dont know if any of these can work and how to do it

View attachment 5156481
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ghepard90:
I'm searching a good custom ROM to flash on a Samsung tablet 10.1 GT-P7500 to be able to use it for browsing and other light tasks. Now with the 4.0.4 version I can't install applications or browse the internet. Maybe it was already answered, but all the links of the old ROMs I found here were down. Can you help me?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ziggyke:
I've also searched a lot, I don't know if you found anything yet.

But here my info to share.

AOSP rom newest is 7.1.2 nothing newer found that is supported or working

https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-unofficial-aosp-android-7-1-2-nougat.3471350/

and to have a correct download link go to here:

Downloads for : Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 | AndroidFileHost.com | Download GApps, Roms, Kernels, Themes, Firmware and more. Free file hosting for all Android developers.

Download GApps, Roms, Kernels, Themes, Firmware, and more. Free file hosting for all Android developers.

androidfilehost.com

You can find other versions as well. The P7500 is also known as P4 if you would donwload a rom for it.

and here the gapps that are small enough and should work with this rom, you should take the micro 7.1.2:

Downloads for : OnePlus OnePlus One | AndroidFileHost.com | Download GApps, Roms, Kernels, Themes, Firmware and more. Free file hosting for all Android developers.

Download GApps, Roms, Kernels, Themes, Firmware, and more. Free file hosting for all Android developers.

androidfilehost.com
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Witzker:
Hi

Any newer version available?

4/2021

Many THX for Info

Or it this tablet GT-P7510 (WiFi) Garbage now?

What do you Think?

Any ideas to use it ?

THX
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enanotg:
Hi!

Did you try that rom?

Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jachien:
so, i'm trying it now, and it keeps saying, "this package is for 'p4wifi' devices: this is a 'p7510'" and i tried all the p4 options and i get the same thing. so i guess this doesn't work anymore.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LR7875:
Android 8.0 is here. You need to flash 'twrp bigsys' before flashing the rom.

Detail of the rom is here:https://xdaforums.com/t/dev-kernel-4-4-android-8-0-oreo.3688948/

Download the rom here, the link in the rom thread is broken. Twrp bigsys is also in there

index - powered by h5ai v0.30.0 (https://larsjung.de/h5ai/)

index - powered by h5ai v0.30.0 (https://larsjung.de/h5ai/)

devdb.xda-developers.com

This rom is not stable. It will be quite slow.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gekko42:
Use it as a digital photo frame
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HerrElling:
I tried postmarkedOS two years ago, but due to severe constraints regarding memory and cpu architecture I could not use any of the recent web browser. However it was fun to have a working linux desktop...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LR7875:
Well I guess you can also use it as a pdf reader to read some books, if the pdf reader apps actually work (try various ones).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] georgito:
:mad:...there is really no advice how to get back keypad tones after uninstal this software?pleaaaaaaaase..........
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] keyz86:
yea i have the same problem, i uninstalled the keypad vibrate cab and now the keypad tones do not work, im really annoyed, anyone have a fix for this??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dabs:
Look at the original thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=417873&page=4

If your really struggling I can prob make you a cab or failing that at least a .reg file, but cant do that for another day or so - am on a mac atm.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] antonio1023:
I have the same problem

I didnt like Phone_Pad_Vibrate, unistall it in my Diamond, And now I lost DTMF sound in the phone.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] buggers999:
hello there,im one of those who is struggling.could you help with the cab file you mentioned.
[General Questions and Answers] ItsYeBoi2016:
There is no way I've found that works without spending 20$ for a software. Please tell me there's a free and easy way to do this
[General Questions and Answers] agonoize:
all i can tell you from my recent experience is this seems impossible. The stupid ios doe not allow you to pull from any other place then android cloud, and the stupid android version can only pull from google cloud

the special softwares seem unable to this properly either, i tried and only got partial contacts and conversations

at the end i got tired of wasting time and money and went ahead with clean slate, as this seems to be done on purpose just to make the users slaves to the chosen system

what you can do on android at least is to export the chats to text, so it does not get totally lost
[General Questions and Answers] bobii:
I think you could backup your chats. Go to Whatsapp>Settings>Chats>Chat Backup. Then when you sign in whatsapp on your iphone, you’ll get the option to restore backup.This might be worth a try. Hope this helps.