yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
test version with semi-transparent frames

please check the TaskFacade forum.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] axjiii:
When I try to change wallpapper it dont let me do it.

I go there where I should to pick wallpaper but there are non to pick.

Any ideas? Thx! Awesome program otherwise.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
Bug report

I've been using 3.8.5 (13th Dec build) for about two weeks now and I noticed that even when I'm not actively using TaskFacade (ie. running in the background), I get "Out of Memory" exceptions and/or weird application behaviours (eg. CommManager only displaying titlebar + softbuttons, folderview.exe refusing to start, Flipside crashing with out of memory, etc) after opening and closing a couple of other apps (eg. Thumbcal, Opera, Messaging, File Explorer), requiring soft reset thereafter.

Thought it was due to my Ramdisk and/or file/glpyh cache settings but lowering those didn't help with the out of memory messages, but not running TaskFacade seemed to help.

My guess is that there must be a memory leak of some sort in TaskFacade 3.8.5? Anyone else experience this with the 13-12-08 build? I'm using an Xperia X1.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
I get "Out of Memory" exceptions too, use HTC TouchHD...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] aussiebum:
hmm, I hope it's not a WVGA-exclusive problem :( Tried the test build, same issue.

Only stop getting Out-of-memory and other display weirdness after I quit TaskFacade or Soft Reset. Looks like it's back to SPB Task Manager then.. *sigh*
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Coming soon

COMING SOON:

VERSION 4.0

+ Complete theming

+ Alpha-blended and ordinary themes

+ Full Smartphone and WM5 support

Register on TaskFacade Forum and participate beta testing SOON!

TASK FACADE FORUM:

http://taskfacade.mybb3.org
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] egzthunder1:
Good Job Lover!!!! I'm looking forward to it!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwoodall:
BTW...the current release simply crashes on attempting to start on my Smartphone.

Kermit Woodall

Managing Editor

GadgetNutz.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
I know.

The next version will be 100% adapted for Smartphones.

I promise. :)

BTW, haven't seen you on the TF forum...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwoodall:
Mostly because I haven't signed up yet there. :(

Kermit Woodall

Managing Editor

GadgetNutz.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
first Alpha of TaskFacade 4.0

Hi guys, Happy New Year!

Here is the first Alpha of TaskFacade 4.0:

http://taskfacade.mybb3.org/general-discussion-f3.html

Major changes comparing to 3.8.5:

- Fully adapted for using on SmartPhones;

- Configuration separated to Settings and Themes;

- Settings and Theme dialogs re-written completely, can be used both on Smartphones and PocketPCs;

- Drawing sequence now is as follows: Background image or solid fill -> Snapshot -> Frame with transparent areas -> Special frames (processToBeClosed or ProcessIsDead);

- Themes extended dramatically, now including any customization one can imagine ;-): configurable fonts, title locations, usual and selected frames, special frames;

- Transparency of 2 different kinds (simple 1-color transparency and much cooler Alpha-Blending) can be used when creating frames;

- Dispay modes include: TitlebarAndMenubar; Menubar (both can be used on Smartphones); Titlebar; FullScreen (menu still available by tapping empty space on the screen);

- Animation speed improved;

...hmm, what else?

Anyway, what we need now are artists able to create attractive themes.

Is there anybody of this kind here?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kainous:
I get this when I try to open your site

403 Forbidden

You don't have permission to access this page.

There are two possible reasons for this:

You really aren't supposed to be here.

There is a server misconfiguration.

You accessed the bad robot booby-trap file. This file is hidden from normal users, and /robots.txt told you not to go there if you're a robot. If you are a human reading this, it is possible that the former owner of your IP address was using your IP to run a badly behaved robot.

To unban your IP address, mail to support@makeforum.org
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
does anyone else have this problem?

as far as i can see, the site works, there is 85 downloads of the Alpha since yesterday.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
me too.

i tried to change something... in the options and then it crashed and never managed to open it again..

~~~~~~~~

all about omnia

http://www.onlline.org/omnia/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
The guy was telling that the site is not reachable.

You are saying that the program does not work.

What do you mean with "me too"??

If something went wrong with your changes, reinstall.

If something is bad with the program, report the bug.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lbhocky19:
the yellow border of the selected box

which setting do i change to make it say blue?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
i have quoted the wrong message, sorry.

I installed it, tried to make some modifications on the settings and then it crashed.. but had no much time to reinstall in and check what was wrong..

when i have time i will try to reproduce the issue and let u know with an error screenshoot..

keep on good work..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
next time before writing negative responses here,

please take some time to find out what YOU did wrong.

don't frighten other people.

thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
you have to change "selected frame" bitmap.

selection border is not just a border. it can be any image you wish to mark the snapshot as selected.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Just tried it on Elf and I only get an hourglass :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
260 downloads, you are the first with this issue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] p50kombi:
No he is not.

I've noticed that your program runs smooth "out of the box" without editing the settings.

After editing something simple as solid fill background instead of the wallpaper, the program crashes, and I can't get it to fire up again.

Only way is reinstall.

The app is great, so my compliments for the work and time you put into this nice program.

I do have to comment though on your way of replying to people.

Please keep in mind that not everybody here is a programmer or a technician, so some of them don't know how to describe their problem, or look to this forum for help and a possible sollution to get this great app going.

I can't help but notice that your reply's to some questions are sometimes very short, blunt or even plainly rude.

I hope you can understand the point I am trying to make, please be friendly to people, even if they ask questions that seem easy to solve in our eyes.

Not every problem is reported, a lot of us are happy with the way the program works, and leave it at that.

So there may be a lot of people out there that have some minor issues, but don't report them.

Please take this as positive criticism, I hope you understand what I am saying.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Do I need to add I've been programming for nearly 20 years? I test a lot of software and buy a lot of software. I also donate here when I find software that works well :)

I would add more info but when you just get an hourglass there's not a lot to say.... I did try restarting but no joy.

If it helps, it is en Elfin, WM 6.1.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
I installed it again,

-removed the wallpaper, left is blank, changed fonts to normal.

close the program and then restart it..

~~

all about omnia

http://www.onlline.org/omnia/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
gonna fix it soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kainous:
Ok I tried opening it just now and it worked. I downloaded it. Thanks :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
2008-01-12: TaskFacade 4.0 Alpha-2

2008-01-12: TaskFacade 4.0 Alpha-2

# Changing from wallpaper to solidFill caused exception when starting TF next time

# Bug with wrong text rectangles after changing a theme

# Last file in the image selection combo included the full path

# Settings dialog: Tabs swapped: Layout tab comes first, System tab comes second

# Settings dialog: Display mode setting moved from the System tab to the Layout tab.

BEFORE INSTALL, PLEASE REMOVE THE WHOLE TASK FACADE PROGRAM FOLDER (e.g., \Program Files\TaskFacade)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kuwait:
Slow appearance

Version 4 is considerable slower than version 3. I assigned it to back button of my Blackstone by AEK Buttons. On pressing twice of the button Taskfacade appears after 3 seconds. Is it only with me or this is the normal speed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] septlc:
just reinstalled it .. i spend 10 minutes fighting the frames and general settings..

could you please advice me how to disable all the new stuff ?

- remove titles

- remove frames

The only thing I managed to do is to remove the background and set it to black (it is fixed now).

I like though the fact the TitleBarMenuBar are now possible toenable and disable..I leave this ON.

but really u need a manual to understand the rest of the settings...

It is possible to make it more simple ? I would like the old squared frames with no colors around.. just black..

thks..

Keep on good work.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

all about omnia => http://www.onlline.org/omnia/
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
Alpha-2 is working well for me. Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
the manual is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=470096

Titles can be disabled in Settings.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
not normal
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
you're welcome.

A3 will be available soon.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Driskol:
As Kuwait says, takes a lot of time to appears

And now, a request, use another way to call taskfacade, like a gesture?

I have a diamond and just one button to be mapped (whitout using 3rd apps, of course)

A finger slide, from top to bottom will be a good choice, or from left to rigth to switch between apps?

Thanks a lot! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
Try one of the lower-pad area gesture programs, like Butler maybe? Would be pretty slick to have it part of task facade, you could do a gesture like on the palm pre.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dody:
did you assign hardware button for alph 2 i dont no which button for wm5 :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
read the FAQ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Alpha-3 (pre-release) version

2008-01-20: TaskFacade 4.0 Alpha-3

# Activation time and overall Drawing speed optimized greatly

# LongPress Enter key to mark the process for closing

# DoubleClick can be switched off: Options->EnableDoubleClick (Off by default)

# Theme's structure changed: themes are divided into 2 independent subsets: portrait and landscape

# New elements in themes: for SmartBitmap: a) "Enabled" attribute (allows you to switch this element off from painting), b) "Bounds" element (you can now draw an image smaller than the whole slot); for TitleText: "Alignment" element (defines horizontal alignment of a title)

# Settings renamed to Options

# Options->FrameInflation renamed to SelectedFrameExtension

# Options->LongTapDelay renamed to LongPressDelay

# Dialogs adapted for changes

# Bugfix: process was displayed in a wrong position after hiding

Download it at the TaskFacade's forum.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] robi_90:
thank you!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Task facade 4.0 release candidate-1

TASK FACADE 4.0 RELEASE CANDIDATE-1

# Bugfix: Was not able to draw an alpha-blended image with bounds different from standard;

# Options->About tab added;

# New theme in package: Minimal. Uses minimal resources.

2 All:

- Does someone use latest Alphas on Smartphones and WM5?

- Is anyone going to produce new themes?

Last time i do not see too much activities on the subject... :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
trying it right now.. looks fine, will let you know if I encounter any bug.

I'd like to integrate TF in my custom ROM, which I plan to distribute -for free of course-, may I ?

(of course I give proper credits for every app included, and link to this thread/your forum too)

If it's fine, I have a friend who's working on the gfx part for me, I guess he might be able to design a skin, which I would share here or on your forum :)

good job, I'm glad you keep working on this !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
yes, of course.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _-1g1-_:
Great work ... nice Programm =) THX

But i dont find the Option to assign a button pls help me ^^

Greet
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fesrts:
Just want to add that I tried v4.0 RC1. And it works great on my HTC Touch Pro. Many thanks. I find this application is simple, stable and very useful.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] StyxOuZ:
Same problem than _-1g1-_ (what a nick !).

Can't find where define the long press key to have the switch-app screen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
check the FAQ!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] _-1g1-_:
Jep Dunno how to go on after this.

Q: Are there some more options to configure, incl. beautifications?

A: Press the OK button, select Settings.

Greet
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Q: How do I install it?

A: Copy the CAB to your ppc, run it, install it. Map it to some button (your PocketPC's Settings->Buttons screen).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] littld:
Hourglass

I just tried the latest RC4. I still just get an hourglass and nothing else. Never mind.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ldrn:
I am really loving this program -- especially the latest alphas and RCs... they're very fast and it makes switching tasks easy. The animations looked great, but I ended up turning them off (well, setting the number of frames to 2) to get it to go even faster... and I love having that option, too. :) This is seriously one of my favorite programs.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
2008-01-25: TaskFacade 4.0 Release Candidate 2

# Drawing sequence fix: ProcessClose/ProcessDead icons were drawn before Title. Now they are drawn above title

# fix: processes were managed incorrectly

# theme Minimal changed to look like 3.8.5 standard
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] optiquest:
great job, thanks ^_^
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] western_rider's_dad:
Is anyone else having trouble accessing the TASK FACADE forum? I would like to download the app. I only receive a "server not found" error. I've been trying the last few days.

http://taskfacade.mybb3.org/general-discussion-f3.html

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SaBo:
I like this tool a lot.

Especially in minimal mode.

Thanks

Sascha
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JNGold:
I am having a problem with RC2. On my Diamond, I am unable to press-and-hold to select an app for closure.

EDIT: Sorry for the above post. I changed the app theme from from Minimal to Original and the ability to select by press-and-hold activated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] StyL3-Ivan:
the latest version does not disable the app to be shown on task manager?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordDeath:
Hello,

Task Facade 4.0 RC2 crashes always, when Pocket Player is running. I added pocketplayer.exe to the exceptions, but that does not change anything. Here the error message:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] crownclown1013:
i need help...when i install it on my htc touch pro it says i need a .net framework compact update....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] samhds:
RC2 works well on omnia so far.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] projection:
Bugs in RC2 on HTC Touch HD:

1) When no background is used and the number of tiles changes, so that they require a new layout, the background is not flushed.

Reproduce: Always (run 4 applications, open taskfacade, run 1 more application, open taskfacade)

2) When binding to a hardware button using "TaskFacade.exe", taskfacade opens much slower than selecting it from the taskmanager

Reproduce: Always

Suggestion: Add keybinding facility

3) Inputs are not sanitized, inputting a string into an int field in any of the settings causes an exception (naturally), however, it is not caught and crashes the entire application.

Reproduce: Always (Open options, write "a" into the gap entry...)

Suggestion: Catch the C# equivalent of NumberFormatException and handle it.

4) When setting more animation frames, the delay between frames is always the same.

Reproduce: Always

Suggestion: Add a duration option for the animation and calculate the delay between two animation frames using that duration. For example: duration 500ms, 10 frames, duration of each frame (between frames): 500ms/10=50ms

5) Not really a bug, but... Idea for landscape mode. Use different layout, which preserves the aspect ratio of the original image. For example, if we have 4 tiles in portrait in a 2x2 fashion, then in landscape show the same tiles in 4x1 fashion, instead of stretching them and making them look very ugly.

6) Use bilinear filtering when shrinking. Should be fast enough and look a lot nicer, since when you shrink images bilinear looks perfect.

I think that is all for now. Your response is appreciated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] orb3000:
Thanks a lot!

Great app
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
projection, thanks for the input. sorry, not everything is clear...

don't see this bug.

please provide a snapshot.

the delay you experience can be caused by a program you use for keylaunch. for example, aebuttons have an option for an app to be lauched by double- or tripleclick. obviously it waits for some time before reacting to a singleclick.

and what is the "keybinding facility"?

that's true, there is not too much fool-proof currently. maybe will be added in a future release. until that, i expect users to be more responsible for what they do.

the duration between frames is not something i put in. i put no delay between frames. this is a natural sluggishness of your hardware. until now, nobody proposed a solution to eliminate it. if you can, people will be for sure thankful.

i don't find it ugly. for now, i am not going to improve tile layout.

please give some code example.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
i do not code PocketPlayer. :)

looks like it uses most of the memory available.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it is a task manager by itself.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
i am sometimes.

in this case i use the free proxy server: http://anonymizer.nntime.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] rareness4:
I think he meant if taskfacade can run without it being shown in the task manager list. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I was wondering the same thing. Can it run without it being shown on the task manager list?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] knaak:
I have a htc touch, I receive a fatal error message of task face rc 2 every time wifi is on when my touch starts up ( e.g. do a softreset)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
Very easy to implement in C#

Example:

try

{

intSomeParameter = Integer.Parse(SomeParameterTextBox.Text);

}

catch

{

msgbox("Could not assign value to Some Parameter.");

}

Or, instead of using the TextBox control, use NumericUpDown controls for numerical input. That will prevent users from putting text into number fields.

I like Projection's idea about different portrait and landscape layouts. Add me to this feature request as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
hey mate, just had an idea for you..

since you already have the snapshot & animation engines, it'd be nice to make 2 small apps to switch directly to previous/next application, see attached.

combined to FTouchSL finger gestures, it would be a really nice feature, no ? :)

http://download104.mediafire.com/mzmb3ztwsofg/mmxbnieoind/alttab.avi
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordDeath:
This is strange. My device has at least 70MiB free RAM. Everything works well with task facade. But when PocketPlayer is running, your application freezes and even the taskbar stops responding. Without tasc facade my device has not such problems. Even with PocketPlayer everything works stable here.

Please can someone check this, too? Just install PocketPlayer's trial and watch, if something hangs or task facade crashes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thx1200:
I use PocketPlayer all the time with no problem. However, I'm using TaskFacade 3 still. Beta testing too many other apps right now to add Task Facade to the mix. :-)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
I have to say I think it's Pocket Player. I've had a number of issues with their latest versions completely monopolizing system resources for the first several minutes. After a while if I just leave it loaded, usage frees up a little and my phone is responsive to multitasking again. Maybe that's what you're seeing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 881kevin:
spb insight

It does not show the window of spb insight.

why?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
i am getting an issue where i activate taskfacade and the background is all screwed up.. hard to explain, but it looks as if it has frozen when certain apps were active within taskfacade, but now they are closed

clicking on them does nothing.. so obviously they are dead, its just the background, because when i go into theme settings, hit ok, then they are gone, adn the black background is back (i am using a solidfill by the way)

really would love to see this fixed.. i think it has something to do with the theme settings not "sticking"

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
go to menu->Theme->Background and select Enabled for the wallpaper. or select SolidFill.

in the upcoming RC3 (pre-final) this possibility to screw up is eliminated.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
hi dude, did you have a look at my video ? what do you think ? :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
In the upcoming RC3 this option is added. Options->System->ShowInTaskManagers. Will be False by default, i.e. not visible as a program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
that would be nice, i agree. but not now, maybe later.

let me launch 4.0 first.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
I'm gonna add one more feature:

say, you turned titles off. in this case, you do not know what program is selected.

in this case, if you have taskbar on, the program's title will be displayed there.

ha!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
hi gps-lover

i love your app, but there's a seriuos conflict between task facade and iFonz: i cannot use both of them (out of memory error in iFonz every time i switch app using task facade).

Don't know if it's a tf or a iFonz bug... but there's a chance of an investigation?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
out of memory means there is too less memory left.

TF uses several megabytes of memory to keep snapshots of running programs plus wallpaper plus frame images.

iFonz, as i can imagine from its name, is also a very good-looking, which means memory-consuming, program.

try to minimize memory usage. in TF, for example, you can switch off wallpapers and select a theme where frame images are not full-size (Minimal theme in RC2, for example). minimizing number of simultaneously running apps also helps a lot.

hope i answered your question.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
i have 92 megs left, so the problem is not there.

iFonz uses 5.23mb. If i close ifonz and open several apps that use also 20 megs (say: yota is 7mb alone), i have no memory errors with TF.

If i close TF, i can open the same (20, 30 megs of apps) with iFonz without errors.

to be precise, i have a "out of memory on Paint": i suspects there's a conflict in NETCF, but am not sure. (Oh, i'm using 4RC2)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
does the error happen in TF? if so, send me an exception report.

if not, it's not TF's problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bbonzz:
nope: as told is iFonz that reports the error, but only when using with TF.

So this means the bug is in Fonz? Ok, got it: thanks mate