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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Hey gps-lover. Still problems with this version. Still does not capture minimized windows. Sometimes doesn't even capture active ones. Also doesn't work in landscape. Have attached a picture of what happens. Also have noticed that if I map it to a button I still get the cursor problem, but if I execute it from the file explorer, I don't. I know you've rewritten most of the code, but could you think about looking at Marek's source some more? His code may not have been optimized, but it worked. I never had a problem with Dynamo 2 not recognizing a running program.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Also am getting an "ArgumentOutOfRangeException" problem with Dynamo 3 closing sometimes.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] uran235:
How do I start this app from today screen?

At the moment I have to go to programms and find dynamo3.exe...

This is such a long way to go.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] margo77:
Cant install to Touch!

So glad it works on everybody, but not on my HTC Touch (64/128MB, 3.5 .net). Today was my first attempt to install it. Installed all three versions (cab, zip, and cab from drforislam). Installed to storage card, didnt work, istalled to device, still didnt work, because the .net is not the newer version. I followed instructions found on all 19 pages (except i didnt re-install the 3.5 .net to my device).

Any ideas why? Would appreciate your help. Ofcourse this looks like the biggest thing concerning taskmanagers. I would like to use it as a replacement to my launchers (rltoday, claunch), but how?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike21pr:
no closing apps function yet??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Install Net CF 3.5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
much faster this version!

but like blowfish said.. minimized apps dont show up!

great stuff though.. i juat feel like your earlier versions worked better..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] margo77:
Thank you blowfish. It now works.

Comments: It doesnt show pictures&videos, windows media and many more. With 7 applications running, it shows only 3 (and once, it showed 5).

Idea: create a second program, a launcher, where there are screenshots of x amount of applications shown. You can choose which ones, and the users can change that in the txt or xml file. That way, we get a visual launcher. Interested?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
I had some apps that didn't show up until I pulled them to the front so it would take a snapshot...you might try that and see if any of them show up.

Here's another request to press and hold to close.....I use wktask's 16 icon launcher for launching apps...I use hbutton to allow multiple apps on same button based on time you hold it...currently ie button calls the visual switcher and if you hold it down calls IE.... the Mail button calls wktask launcher and if you hold it calls mail.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
They do show up if I do that. My point is I shouldn't have to.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
I am also finding that now Dynamo sometimes stops displaying a thumbnail of a program that it was before. For instance, I opened Pocket Player then used Dynamo to go to the desktop, then when I clicked on Dynamo again Pocket Player did not show up, even though it was still active and in fact playing a song at that moment.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
Is the author still working on this? I've been trying to use it but with half the apps not showing up or disappearing at random times it's basically unusable. Was hoping maybe a quickfix for that was in the works?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
working exactly on this. plus some more.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Any idea when that will be out?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] graey:
Could you please release the source of your modifications and all? I'd like to see if I can maybe get the memory usage down a bit :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike21pr:
hope to see a new release soon

thanx for all the effort
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bluemetalaxe:
hi, i´m new with this app and it is pretty cool.

I have a question and did not found a answer and must report some bugs:

1. There are graphic files and themes, i renamed another theme to default, but dynamo looks always the same, there are no graphics, or highlighted windows (like its written in the txt files) ?

2. Can´t close the htc comm manager anymore, its always on and present in Dynamo ?

3. The button to start dynamo doesnt work with A_Cs s2p and s2v ?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
please check the new beta.

my only question is: are all necessary windows visible?

all other issues, such as orientation etc, will be solved later.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lepsyfou:
thank you very much for this new release :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
for some reason this newest version doesnt look right at all

no screenshots are taken for minimized apps. they just show up as the default icon for programs with no icon (like what the dynamo icon looks like in the programs list)

i have to go to each app and activate dynamo while the program is open individually for screenies to show.. also its pretty hard to see the names of the apps when there actually is a screenshot (I liked how it was done in earlier versions.. is this still possible with this verison)

anyone else getting this?

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cpz21:
Thanks for the cool application. The new version is better, all necessary windows are visible, plus some unnecessary ones such as "Desktop", "Activesync", "phone", "outlook.exe", "Manila2D.exe"...

Can you give a user defined "exclusive program list" option?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it's already done. please check the changelog in the first post
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
hi htctoucher,

yes, i am ;)

as i wrote in the previous post, for now it's not necessary to comment anything except programs shown/not shown.

everything else is just a preparation for the next step.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gthing:
Just installed, but the program is not available to be mapped to a button and does not appear in all programs. I have to launch it from program files/dynamo.

Any way to fix that?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] mike21pr:
i use resco explorer to create a link for it, you can try that

or make a copy of the .exe and move it to the programs folder
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gthing:
Nice - copying the .exe didn't work but I was able to copy and "paste shortcut" into windows/start menu/programs and that did the trick. I was then able to assign it to a button.

I must say - this program kicks ass. Very cool - just like expose on my mac. It should create a shortcut in programs by default though, and it should have an icon.

Word.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
uploaded the cab with the proper shortcut.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
Hi, thank you very much for resuming the work on this application.

It's great ! Not (yet) the fastest way to switch, but already both the most convenient and pretty.

Your last beta is working fine with (at least) opera, but also the phone dialer and few others while the previous one didn't show them.

All I'd need now would be some optimisations at startup. I saw you already did a nice job in this area, I guess it can still be improved, and it will be perfect :)

This really will be a great task manager !

ps: first screenshot was not taken for any of the apps until I selected them in Dynamo, only black screen. I think previous version did show them once they've been active at least one time while dynamo was running.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
thanks for your kind words...

i need an advice - from all of you, guys.

in previous versions we supposed the program to be launched in the middle of device usage. therefore it was necessary to take all snapshots during the start. of course, it gave a massive impact on starting time, plus, imho, was not very straightforward for the enduser. :(

now, as soon as the program takes only 1 Mb in memory instead of previous 9, and is only 100 Kb size, i think it's time to switch it to autostart.

in this case we do not need taking initial snapshots (you've noticed it in the last beta, right?), and we have speed optimized.

what do you think?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
i think it should auto start...as you said would improve speed as theire would be nothing to screenshot at system start up(asid from desktop) then it could just take shots of new apps as they open and periodicly update any shots it had already taken assuming the app in question is still running. i going to try this latest ver later on today keep em comming gps
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cpz21:
opps, missed that. after editing default.txt, everything work.

this is truly a great task switcher, I just uninstalled HandySwitcher :) THANKS!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
I agree. The only problem thatI see ATM is the stability one. If it is stable, I would also recommend that it be auto-started.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jlavoie:
exclusion

i does not seem to be excludeing programs. even though poutlook.exe and cpprog.exe are in the excluded list they are still showing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
they are not in the list. they are commented.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
please make it auto-start :)

it crashes from time to time, last one was while minimising other apps (I did not even called Dynamo at that time)

Here is the report:

Dynamo3.exe

KeyNotFoundException

à System.ThrowHelper.ThrowKeyNotFoundException()

à System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.get_Item(IntPtr key)

à Dynamo3.DynamoForm.SnapshotUpdaterTimer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)

à System.Windows.Forms.Timer._WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à System.Windows.Forms.ApplicationThreadContext._InternalContextMessages(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

à System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

à Dynamo3.Program.Main()

edit: got another one, just the same.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] galmok:
IT doesn't handle switching between portrait and landscape mode well. The icons remain in landscape mode (extending over the right edge) even when returning to portrait mode.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
I've tried a bunch of things. It doesn't seem to be missing any programs anymore. Looks like that bug is finally squashed (knock on wood)!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
new beta please
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] motisu:
I think that you forgot to post the link.....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
my apologies.. but in vista style you mean the regular one right? or is there a plan to make this work like the Ultimate alt-tab option.

?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
beta 7 & 9:

I did not encounter an app that doesn't display up now.

Any app can (only one at a time) display twice, one of the two thumbnail has no title.

still doesn't display right snapshots until you select them in dynamo (one by one), build 03 worked better from this viewpoint.

edit: It's looks ok once dynamo has been started manually though, I have to check if that startup thing is enabled or not..

edit 2: nop, snapshot even got black again while nothing else happened..

I did not encounter the crash I already reported for beta 7 up now, still testing.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Hey gps-lover,

By putting the refresh rate to 10 seconds you've decreased the risk of Dynamo capturing a false image while a program is being minimized. However, I would like it to refresh faster than this without the false image problem. I don't know how Dynamo handles snapshot storage, but I'm guessing it probably keeps only one snapshot per program in memory. What do you think about it keeping 2 snapshots just for whichever program is currently active, and when that program is no longer active it automatically discards the last screenshot taken and displays the previous one? I think this would solve most problems. So for example, if you have a 3 second refresh rate, it would store two images, each 3 seconds apart. When the active program is minimized, it would discard the most current picture so that if that picture happened to be taken as the program was being minimized this would not be displayed. That way, each screenshot displayed would be at minimum 3 seconds old and at most 6 seconds old, which is better than 10, and deals with the false image problem. I know it would take up more memory, but it would only ever be one extra screenshot at any time, and all newer devices out now have more than enough RAM to deal with it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
No, it is done for productivity only. Following proposal from galmok, I added capturing last active window right before going to snapshots tile. It is done however only for the program from which you call dynamo. In case that you minimize programs with red button, and then call dynamo, those minimized were not captured.

you can change the snapshot rate setting to any value you like :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
:confused: can't remember I suggested that :D

My problem is many snapshots is just a black box untill I select each app once in dynamo, then it can become a black box again later..

It looks like random and frequent failures to take a snapshot.

Watch this, you also have the duplicated thumbnail problem (but you can see they're not the exact same copies as one is corrupted with softkeys bar, which was not visible):

the 2nd Opera title first finishes with ws\poutlook_something, and when I selected it it brings me to the desktop, not Opera. Then I called dynamo again, and still got that duplicated tile but with the desktop as snapshot and no title anymore. If selected, it went to the desktop... And it's not opera related, it just depends on which apps are opened and which one was the last selected..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it was galmok, sorry...

did you reboot to have it running from the start?

you should have only programs that were launched before dynamo or moved to minimize with the red button blackboxed.

this is strange. please give names of the cab you downloaded and of the program.

details please. at least names of program methods from the dump.

it's another story, not a bug at all.

the problem is the poutlook.exe program (scheduler of the calendar), that starts up with normal window properties, but does not display itself. It changes its state to the normal one only when you call the Calendar program. From that time, its window becomes called Calendar and is visible as all other programs.

So, when it is only a scheduler launched by the system, d3 recognizes it as a usual window. When you try to switch to it, it does not show itself, and another (previous) window is being shown.

So this case is a kind of exception which we will record and exclude later.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
yep, my phone was restarted before testing.

Just tested with opera, I minimized it (with the cross), and it's still a black box in d3.. it's only fine once I call d3 from Opera, now..

Isn't d3 supposed to take snapshots at regular intervals anyway ?

Why then would it be a problem to minimise using red button (which I use very often) or other way ?

Any app, it's even happening with the desktop... I downloaded last Dynamo3.2.09b.CAB

maybe this occurs after a silent program crash. I just noticed it while d3 didn't respond on first call, I had to call it twice, so maybe it crashed first then loaded again fine.

I didn't mean it crashed, like the crash I already reported before with dump details (I think it does not happen anymore btw..), I just thought d3 sometimes failed at taking snapshots, and thus displayed black boxes (with program icon) instead. That was just an idea, please ignore that :)

ok I will exclude it, I didn't know poutlook was declared as a window before it's activated, thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
ok, fixed. please download the new update Dynamo3.2.09beta3

The last was Dynamo3.2.09beta2, specifically released to fix this issue. Never mind, it's already beta3 here.

if you like. but take into account, you will miss the Calender application then.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
Everything looks fine so far, good job ! :)

arf, just checked the last posts and I didn't see this, sorry !

anyway, I still have wrong snapshots, from a wrong program.

check the screenshot, both window at the top are resco explorer, but the left one brings opera (which was not displayed) when selected.

edit: I found another application with same behavior than poutlook.exe, regarding unshowed windows: mortbuttons.

If you can add it to your future 'window-monitoring' list :)

Just got another crash, here's the log:

Dynamo3.exe

NullReferenceException

à Dynamo3.DynamoForm.WindowsCatcherTimer_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)

à System.Windows.Forms.Timer._WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à System.Windows.Forms.ApplicationThreadContext._InternalContextMessages(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

à System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

à Dynamo3.Program.Main()

I'm up to test a debug version if you wanna know more about it.

Hope this helps, thank you again for your work, really appreciated :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
ps: I tried to uncomment the list of default excluded processes, and I added mortbuttons.exe (that's the process name) to that list.

They all still show up as tiles :p
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Yes, that's what I'm getting at. I, and I'm guessing many others (for instance lastnikita who also mentioned this problem), do not always switch programs EXCLUSIVELY through Dynamo. My suggestion was for solving this problem specifically. If you keep two images in memory and discard the last one when a window is inactivated, you are basically guaranteed not to have the "wrong window snapshot" problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
fixed in 3.2.10b1.

gimme some more!!! ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
will fix it today
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
please check the last version (since 3.2.9beta3). i added capturing snapshot when a new program is detected. so now it captures before program goes minimized.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
fixed 3.2.10beta2
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Hmmm. I've edited the default theme in the latest beta but exclusions don't seem to be working for me.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] famewolf:
If you use wktask launcher it shows in the list of running programs even after being "ran" and clicking on it shows the desktop. Not sure what to tell you to look for to exclude it though...I guess it would be safe to exclude all the time since you'd never want the launcher showing up in a task switcher..it would lauch an app and exit.......???
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
what do you write for banned processes and windows?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
you can put it to banned processes or windows.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] cpz21:
just downloaded the latest version，only one issue: The SMS\MMS windown stays after closing the program. SMS was launched from Manila2D.

Is this just me?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
please check with a regular task manager, if the program is running. possibly, it is not closed properly, maybe just minimized
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
dude you rock !

no more blackboxes for sure, still a wrong snapshot for the desktop, see attached.

Googlemap launch is showing instead, I guess the snapshot was taken too late.

The excluded list seems to work with poutlook but as you can see mortbuttons.exe was still displayed, and activesync as well..

You can see Act.sync and phone dialer in my screenshot from the post below, cprog.exe is supposed to be the dialer right ?

My edited line is: cprog.exe,poutlook.exe,repllog.exe,mortbuttons.exe,pccommloader.exe

ps: way faster, no more flickering, no crash so far, it's reached a new stage ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
well it crashed silently once now, while I was pushing it with 8+ tasks.

no report, just closed and I needed to open again (got black boxes then, which sounds logical)

there was that tile which was showing twice (for 'notes' app), one with wisbar advance 3 start menu open on it, maybe that was the cause (it crashed when I selected this tile)

Maybe I should exclude wisbaradv3.exe too..

edit: it is reproducible, I think it's wisbar "fault", see attached.

See the 2 same tiles near the down-right corner ? The one on the left is activesync, and the one on the right is activesync with another title (I think it's the process name for wisbar start menu), when I clicked that one, it crashed again : freeze until I hit 'enter' key, then d3 opened & closed on next call, then one can call it again and it restarts correctly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
it works great.. looks great... and... it's great.. that's all i have to say :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] galmok:
3.2.10b3: The task handling is still not working correctly. I started D3 and it showed 7 tasks (desktop, desktop again, fring, CommManager, ActiveSync, iContact, Phone) yet HTC TaskManager only shows 4 tasks (ActiveSync, fring, iContact, Dynamo3).

Also, I had the programs file window open and even though I closed it, Dynamo kept it in its list but chose to remove the today screen from the list instead.

Also, I am not quite sure I like that the new way of ordering the icons. I would like to have the option to have the icons sorted according to when they were last used.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Yep, I have that same exact problem.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Actually, desktop, commManager, Activesync, and Phone are all running, it's just that HTC TaskManager automatically excludes them. You can add them to exclusions in Dynamo3 if you wish, but I personally am glad that there is at least the option to show them as opposed to with HTC's. With the second desktop, was there a different label at the bottom of it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it's wrong.

must be (in one line):

banned process names=cprog.exe,poutlook.exe,repllog.exe,mortbuttons.exe,pccommloader.exe
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
please disable wisbar. if it happens again then it's my fault.

if not, i'm not gonna check it this time.

maybe we can eliminate it by banned processes/windows.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
good idea, btw.

please check names of the processes in the tile view. eliminate those that are not suitable for you.

FOR EVERYONE:

if you use manilla or SPB Mobile Shell, you can exclude the regular desktop (sometimes you name it as SECOND DESKOP) by putting shell.exe into banned processes list:

banned process names=shell.exe

those programs (i mean manilla or SPB Mobile Shell), do not allow desktop to show itself, so you face "blank" windows.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it must not be the same.

there are different approaches to what the normal window is.

e.g., htc does not count phone console as the normal one. while i think you can wish having phone console selectable.

so please use banned processes/windows for it.

can't reproduce it. let's move it to the future, or please provide me with more info.

yes, but much later, not now.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
hehe oops :D

everything is working fine now, sweet (some wrong snapshot from time to time but not often, like they're captured while the screen is refreshed)

for the wisbar pb, just add Start to the windows exclusion list.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
hmm, better add the process name. don't like this window's name...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
couldn't find it in taskmanager.. I guess it's a threaded process.

I tried wisbaradv3.exe (the process that shows up) but it didn't work.