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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] jseng:
Crash error

I received the following error with 3.8.1.4:

TaskFacade.exe

InvalidOperationException

at System.Diagnostics.Process.EnsureState(State state)

at System.Diagnostics.Process.get_MainWindowHandle()

at TaskFacade.VisibleProcess..ctor(IntPtr hWnd)

at TaskFacade.ProcessManager.AddProcess(IntPtr hWnd)

at TaskFacade.ProcessManager.ActiveApplication_Changed(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.SystemState.RegistryState_ChangeOccured(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.RegistryState.notificationWindow_Changed(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)

at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.NotificationWindow.WndProc(Message& msg)

at Microsoft.WindowsCE.Forms.MessageWindow._WndProc(Message& msg)

at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

at TaskFacade.Program.Main()
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
Does anyone have a list of standard process names that people would commonly ban? Is there any chance of checkboxes perhaps for some really common ones (I'm thinking Desktop, Activesync, Dialer)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Oh my god!

RTM!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
hi,

are you sure you were using 3.8.1.4?

it looks like it was 3.8.1.2.

please uninstall, then install 3.8.1.4.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
I don't see an "M" anywhere, can you point me to it?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
the first post says:

TASK FACADE WEB PAGE

--- F.A.Q.

--- DOWNLOAD AND CHANGELOG

--- TODO AND FEATURE REQUESTS
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
Which I read in their entirety before posting the question.

EDIT: Hmm am I going nuts or was that FAQ item always there?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
i am getting a crash quite frequently with v3.8.1.4

i have to force quit

today i hit the details button and it came up with this:

TaskFacade.exe

Win32Exception

at System.Diagnostics.Process.get_HasExited()

at TaskFacade.VisibleProcess.get_Displayable()

at TaskFacade.MainForm.InitProcessList()

at TaskFacade.MainForm.OnActivated(EventArgs e)

at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)

at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)

at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

love the program as always!

htctoucher
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Hey gps-lover, any chance you could tweak the animation a little bit? I'm using a VGA device now and it seems pretty choppy. I've increased the frames from 5 to 7, but that just makes the animation take longer. What I'd like is for it to just use more frames in the same amount of time so that it is smoother. Is this possible?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
I have been playing around with this program for several days. Thanks for continuing to improve this app. I used it when it was Dynamo, but had to go without it when I switched to wm6. Again, thanks for updating it.

I have noticed that when I add tasks to the barr list within the settings menu, the tasks are not hidden. But, if I enter the tasks properties by double tap, then the task is successfully barred. Also, anyway to slow down the speed of the double tap needed to bring up the items settings? I had a bit of a hard time. I kept switching tasks instead to accessing the properties.

Also, what are your thoughts about having the option to set the tasks switching interface into something similar to Vista's Aero task flipper? Using finger swipes to rotate the slides to the left or right.

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] htctoucher:
that would be cool.. but i think it would be pretty battery/memory intensive.. plus ive noticed even on my computer (viista).. it looks cool, but really isnt that useful cuz it takes too long to switch using it..

having all tasks in one screen is much more efficient, at least i think
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
Just throwing it out there. i have no programming experience so I have no idea how labor intersive these programs can be.

By the way, if you have a scroll wheel mouse, set the aero flipper to launch when the wheel is pressed. Then use the wheel to flip from left to right. It works great, fast to switch programs, and fun to use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
then you're doing something wrong when barring from the Settings dialog. Either you enter a wrong case (process names are case sensitive), or you do not press Add button after writing the process name. Check again, it works.

The double tap delay was reduced from 600 ms to 200 ms because of users complaining of a long delay before switching to a task.

it is my opinion too, that 200 ms is really not enough for a comfortable use. I will increase the default value to 400 ms in the next version.

meanwhile, you can change it by yourself: Settings, 2nd tab.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
didn't get what you did.

what means "i have to force quit"?

what is the details button: "today i hit the details button"?

are you sure you have 3.1.8.4? because this error was eliminated since then.

could you please uninstall, then reinstall (by the way, 3.8.1.5 is available).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
not now...

that's because your ppc is slow. the more you increase nr. of frames, the more time it takes.

no, it's not possible. you use maximum of speed the standard graphical library gives you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it's absolutely correct.

hope i fixed it in the upcoming version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
It seems to be intermittent. Each time I type in the name, I press Add, and the name shows in the list. However, one time it works, the next it doesn't. If it does work, and the task is hidden after exiting the settings, it comes back later. If I then delete it off the list and re-add it, using the same spelling as when it worked, it doesn't hide.

But, using the individual task settings, it works every time. And the task stays hidden.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
I had this issue, probably just a few odd characters getting added to the entries, wherever they are stored. But frankly, now that you can ban straight from the window pane, why bother? The program could probably get rid of manual entry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
You're absolutely right. But, I did figure out the issue. After barring a task from within tasks settings page, I checked the barr list again and found that the app name ended with it's extension (e.g. ".exe"). I was using the name that shows when the tasks are displayed.

Thanks for all your help!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
What is the best word for banning a process: ban or bar?

answering, please specify your nation.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
I would actually say "Hide" ... ban or bar sounds a little too severe for what is happening and could be a little confusing. I'm in the US.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
thanks for the input. does everybody agree?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
it seems there is plenty of enthusiasts here...

so, if you think some tricky question should be placed in the FAQ, please write it here (better with an answer).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
I agree, "Hide" makes more sense to me. U.S. as well.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Really? Even on my QVGA device, Dynamo 2 animation was always smoother than Task Facade. Are they using the same standard graphical library?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
don't want to argue. there is always a choice which program to use.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
version 3.8.1.6

version 3.8.1.6

+ Silent start-up

# Fix: NullException in OnActivate

# Fix: Closing from outside (e.g., reinstall/uninstall) could cause exception

# "Ban/Bar process" operation renamed to "Hide"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Misutsu:
Thank you. This app is awesome !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Wasn't an argument, just a simple question of whether you're using the same graphics library.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
Is it possible to add an option to hide the top taskbar? I use WAD2 and the theme doesn't display the taskbar. So, it makes the animations and switching back and forth a bit awkward visually.

BTW, the double tap setting is perfect at 400. I also like the ability to set the number of animation frames. I set it to 7 and like the flow of the program much better.

Also, would it be possible to somehow save the existing settings when upgrading to a new version? With the rate at which you update the program (which is awesome by the way) it's slightly annoying to have to change everything back to where I had it the day before. But, I can certainly deal with it, if it is not possible.

Thanks, keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
maybe, but not now.

i'm also changing settings (names of parameters, adding new ones, removing unnecessary etc.). so it's impossible, sorry.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] henel321:
Good to see this app is starting to come along nicely, I've used it on and off for the past months and with 3.8.1.6 it is really stable and usable which hasn't always been the case. :-)

Nice work gps-lover, keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
TaskFacade.exe

NullReferenceException

à TaskFacade.MainForm.OnDeactivate(EventArgs e)

à System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)

à TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.GetMessage(MSG& lpMsg, IntPtr hWnd, UInt32 wMsgFilterMin, UInt32 wMsgFilterMax)

à TaskFacade.Program.Main()
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
test version

for testers only (not sure if it's stable!): bugfixing + memory and graphics optimizations.

Blowfish64, what is your opinion about its speed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
Hi kwoodall,

do you still need smartphone adaptation?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scar45:
(Accidental double-post...sorry! - Read next --> )
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] scar45:
hi gps-lover,

First off, many thanks for this app, TaskFacade is great and I've been using it on my Xperia X1 since v3.7.7. That being said, the Xperia does have an issue when invoking the Panels.

When TaskFacade is running, EVERY time that I press the Panels button on my X1, TaskFacade quits with this error:

TaskFacade.exe ** v3.7.7 --> v3.8.1.x ERROR **
IndexOutOfRangeException

at TaskFacade.ProcessManager.ActiveApplication_Changed(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.SystemState.RegistryState_ChangeOccured(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.RegistryState.notificationWindow_Changed(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.NotificationWindow.WndProc(Message& msg)
at Microsoft.WindowsCE.Forms.MessageWindow._WndProc(Message& msg)
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)
at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

TaskFacade.exe ** v3.8.1.7 ERROR **
IndexOutOfRangeException

at TaskFacade.ProcessManager.ActiveApplication_Changed(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.SystemState.RegistryState_ChangeOccured(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.RegistryState.notificationWindow_Changed(Object sender, ChangeEventArgs args)
at Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Status.NotificationWindow.WndProc(Message& msg)
at Microsoft.WindowsCE.Forms.MessageWindow._WndProc(Message& msg)
at TaskFacade.NativeMethods.CoreDll.DispatchMessage(MSG& lpmsg)
at TaskFacade.Program.Main()

It happens everytime that "PanelManager.exe" is invoked, so hopefully it would be an easy fix. Even if it mean't hard coding a "hide" for PanelManager.exe, it would be great for the time being. I have also added "PanelManager.exe" to the list of Hidden Processes, but it seems that does nothing, as TaskFacade crashes immediately upon invoking the PanelManager.exe process.

Using 3.8.1.7 right now, and not counting the Panels issue, it's running very smooth and fast. I'd say best build yet!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kwoodall:
Yes indeed! Once the menubar issue is resolved I plan on mentioning it in several smartphone forums as well.

Kermit Woodall

Managing Editor

GadgetNutz.com
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fourcc:
it is very strange, when using TF 3.8.1.6 in combination with wktask ( this is the way i love to use TF alone with all the other programs hidden in wktask) TF tab disappears after choosing window. TF process is still alive, i can see it in as a hidden process using for example schaps task manager. but the TF tab disappears. it only happens using the last version. all the other versions work as always. So i have returned back to 3.8.1.5.

Hope you understand what i mean and hope this Task facade problem related wktask get solved in the next TF releases. I would n't like to become out of date with this fantastic Task Facade tool.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
this will not be changed back, because only so i can reach silent start-up
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
fixed in the next version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dr g:
For some odd reason, Pocket Artist will not show up in Task Facade. I don't have the process hidden, so I dunno why :confused:
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] khoury4:
I can confirm this. It shows up in WA3's running tasks, but not in TF.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
i think this is because it has a wrong window size.

TF checks, if the main window of the process is within screen. if yes, it treats it as displayable.

in the upcoming update, i included a switch for it (in the excusions tab of the settings dialog). so you will be able to see even wrong-sized windows.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DrForIslam:
Nice update and congratulation on the webpage
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
new test version 3.8.1.8

Only for testers. Please give your feedback!

Changes:

# bugfix: problem with PanelManager;

+ wrong-sized windows can be displayed (use it if you do not find some specific app displayed in the Facade). Settings->Exclusions->Wrong-sized windows

# should run on WM5 - please check!!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] thedogger:
Using 3.02 - see a couple of issues so far. 1) The little 'x' button locks up the program when you tap it. 2) The preview thumbnails don't always match the program they bring up. 3) It keeps showing Settings and Programs windows, even when I close them. Is there a way to add certain windows to an exception list so you don't see them? I looked through the config file (default.txt) and didn't see one.

I'm using

ROM: 3.29.DK.00-20296

Radio: 1.71.09.01

SPL: 3.29
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
you can change the snapshot quality in themes/default.txt file as you like
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
sweeeeeet!!!!! i was hopping something like this would happen(dev on dynamo2 or source code release) thanx for this can't wait to try this out...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] synghyn:
Ok, got a couple of problems with the new version. For the record I'm on a T-mobile Wing, using one of Aserg's ROMs. I've never had a problem with NetCF 3.5 working with any other programs including some that other folks did have problems with depending on the version etc of CF they had, so I'm fairly sure that isn't my issue.

It opens ok, and shows the screen shots fine, but shows no menus, exit etc at the bottom at all.

Also as reported, hitting an x to close a program locks up Dynamo, it has to be closed through TaskManager.

As another note, installing from the cab originally provided in this thread, the program seems to work fine, although obviously without any of the new features. But as soon as I copy the new version into the existing folder I have the lockup problems etc. I've tried copying it into both the original folder with the old program intact and overwriting, and into the same folder after deleting all the old files.

Syn
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] richabi:
Tilt here with net cf 3.5 ACTIVATED

I only had a little time to play around with this amazing lil proggie, but i couldnt quite seem to figure out how to have it show more than 4 snapshots. and the X button also froze my junk up too.

I hope you get this to work flawlessly. its a must have!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Great App, still has bugs

I got it running on my ATT Tilt, worked fine for a second, and crashes always with the same error message. I look forward to seeing new, more stable versions of a good program. Keep it up gps-lover!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
got it installed on my touch last night it works great so far no issues...great work man keep it up...really glad to see this app being worked on again.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] synghyn:
Grondinm

Since alot of us seem to be having problems with the new version, maybe you can tell us exactly how you installed it? For instance, from the cab and extracted directly into the existing folder, or newest version copied to device without previous install? Anything changed in .xmls?

Might be helpful for several of us.

Thanks

Syn
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
Also having lockups with the X-image to close. I am still very much hoping to have tap-and-hold to close implemented though. Also, was wondering if you would consider having a settings page that was separate from the program similar to the way A_C's S2U2 works. There you could have theme, animation, and exclusion settings.

Btw, Dynamo showing the wrong screenshot is still a problem. If memory is an issue, what about just having it take one screenshot of the program 2-3 seconds after it has been minimized to make sure that it displays the proper image?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LordDeath:
A very nice applicatino :)

Are there any plans to make this to a native applcation without the .net framework?

I hope so, because this is a "runs-allways" background process and with 5MiB it takes too much RAM on my prophet. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
well at first i tired that cab but the cab is a diff app all together and it gives me meny issues. so then i downloaded the zip attached to first post and extracted it to \windows\start menu\programs\dynamo3(so i could map it to a button) and it works great...so far the only issue i have had is as mentioned above lock up when closing with the x button in dynamo...the only thing i changed in the xml is the anim speed.....tho i'm wondering how i can chage to another theme....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JukEboXAuDiO:
this is a good program but its way to slow. its cycles through all the programs and then goes to the program. Anyway to speed it up?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Bronx31:
Excellent Job!!!

Very nice application! GOOD JOB :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Blowfish64:
It only does that at first startup. After that, it stays in memory.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] galmok:
Again, I just wanted to express my thanks for continuing this project. v3.02 is very good, but of course still has a few quirks.

1. (as everyone has mentioned) Dynamo hangs closing apps.

2. It occasionally shows more applications open than are really started.

3. It occasionally shows the wrong image for an application.

That being said, the speed up in v3.02 is great. Dynamo is so much more useful now. :-D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bmb2n:
Reduce memory usage by reducing snap shot quality

Reducing the snap shot quality from the theme setting to anything less than 100 would cut the memory usage down to 1/3.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ahmedfikry:
freezing

hi

tried it with initial success

was able to see snapshots & pick screens fine..also good speed

but

it freezes if i try to "close" any of them & i have to soft reset

had to uninstall

please continue to work on fixing that freezing issue, it seems like a great program
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] synghyn:
Thanks for the answer Grondinm, I appreciate it. Doesn't sound like we did anything any different though. Ahh well, maybe somethings conflicting, I'll have to look around a little more.

I was wondering about the themes as well, they are there, I'm not sure if my PPCs issues are causing the menu to not show up, or if the feature just hasn't been enabled yet. Maybe we can get some clarification from, gps-lover. Great little app, once the issues get worked out it's gonna be a must have app.

Syn
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] JukEboXAuDiO:
Where do is the Dynamo Configuration? How do I use the dynamo options? i can't find them.

Also it starts locking up alot. Why does it just freeze like this? there are only 2 things open?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sunra:
I have used Dynamo before and thought it was a great idea but too slow to be useful. I'm certainly going try this new version out!

I was wondering about one thing. It's nice that it takes snapshots of programs, it looks great. But it's not really necessary. What if you could just assign thumbnails to installed programs and let the program show these? This could speed up the program while retaining it's functionality...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
Upgrade procedure?

Just a quick question:

I am new with Task Facade.

Just want to update from 3.8.1.7 test to 3.8.1.8 test on my Xperia X1 (same problem here than others reported allready).

Do I have to uninstall it 1st, or just copy the CAB and run it and the rest will be done automaticly? (with Task managers I am always a little bit carefully ...)

Best regards

dingolino

PS: With Task Facade I am questioning the Panels even more ...

PS2 with 3.8.1.7 I am facing also freaquently some "out of Memory" errors and I have to quit Task Facade (not only if I am pressing the Panel button)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
automatically

what is Panels?

please dump it.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
3.8.1.7 crashed while uninstalling 3.8.1.6

didn't have time to check the log, I think the process was killed by OS.

guess it had to do with the menu ?

no problem from 1.7 -> 1.8.

no other crash so far, but few use from me.

an option to allow or not windows properties (ie double-click) page would be appreciated, in order to reduce the delay below 200ms, once everything is set-up !
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
Will do the dump next time it will occur.

Panels: The new "Panel" interface form Xperia X1

dingolino
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
Not so easy to dump. Is cut, copy & paste working in the error window?

dingolino

PS: I have freaquently the problem that if I want to go back to the today screen that the today screen is "poping up" and than immediatly the "Programm Folder"
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] lastnikita:
copy/paste is working, but from keyboard only.

you can't tap n' hold to copy, you need to do Ctrl+C
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
Many thanks

here is the error meassage
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
3.8.1.9 Smartphone test version

only for Smartphone users: please try if the menu bar is hidden.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] fourcc:
the wktasks related prolem is still there. TF tab (in wktask) disappears after choosing window. Going back to 3.8.1.5.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] gps-lover:
yes, you're right. i checked it again and - this will not be changed back, because only so I can reach silent start-up.

sorry.

maybe you'll find some shortcuts-on-taskbar program...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dingolino:
What about my "Out of memory" Problem?