yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi 11] mali301262:
Did you check your CIT-Menü in settings, my device, all specs, 3x tap on basebandversion? 22. pressure sensor
[Xiaomi Mi 11] Asnamus:
You can find pressure - barometer in compass app
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
Team Win Recovery Project 3.x, or twrp3 for short, is a custom recovery built with ease of use and customization in mind. Its a fully touch driven user interface no more volume rocker or power buttons to mash. The GUI is also fully XML driven and completely theme-able. You can change just about every aspect of the look and feel.

* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or your getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.

Supported Models:

Galaxy Note 10 N9700, N970U, N970U1 and N970W.

US/Canada bootloader unlock thread:

here

Download & Guide:

1. Unlock your bootloader.

2. Download Note 10: d1q.

3. Reboot to download mode and flash vbmeta_disabled.tar in AP slot and reboot. Device will reboot to stock recovery mode prompting you to wipe data so wipe data and reboot to download mode again.

4. Put the TWRP tar for your device with Odin in the AP slot and click start.

5. Reboot to recovery via recovery key combo.

6. Disable encryption:

- Go to Advanced > Terminal, type: multidisabler.​

If vendor complain about free space left on device, will attempt to resize vendor. and it ask to - Run multidisabler again!.​

- Type: multidisabler again. will see - Finished. when done.​

7. Go back to Wipe > Format Data > type yes.

8. Reboot to recovery.

9. Flash magisk apk in twrp.

10. Reboot to system, Enjoy.

Note:

Bugs:

- Encryption not fully working.

Thanks:

TWRP team

@Mentalmuso for base device tree

@ianmacd for multidisabler

Sources:

Kernel tree

Device tree
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
Changelog:

30.11.2021 - Update to TWRP 3.6.0

- Update multidisabler

10.03.2021 - Update to latest TWRP source

- Add terminal multidisabler script

- fstab cleanup.

16.02.2021 - Initial R build for Android 11

01.01.2021 - Initial Release
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] menace211:
How are we unlocking the Bootloader? Message me when you have time.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] Gregbmil1:
I have Windows 10 and drivers are installed. I got nothing going on today so anytime will work. If today works for you
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
[CLOSED][Android][UNSAMLOCK] Bootloader Unlock for Samsung US/Canada Devices

Important notice: If you are already updated post February 2021, do not update to April 2023 security update (XXXXXXXXXXWCX) or later. Examples: G998USQS6EWCA, N986USQU4HWD1. Samsung has patched the bootloader unlock again on those updates...

xdaforums.com

USA/Canada - Samsung Bootloader Unlock

Long live Palestine, crush Zionism	Free Palestine 🇵🇸

t.me

I will PM you too.

Ok thats fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] menace211:
Just wanted to let people know, if you're on the fence about this, its 100% legit. Thanks again!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] Gregbmil1:
Question. How do we flash multidisabler in TWRP if its encrypted in TWRP? I can't find anything in it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
Push the file through adb or use Micro SD or USB-OTG.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] Gregbmil1:
OTG worked great!! Thank You.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] Gregbmil1:
Anyone having an issue creating a backup in TWRP? I tried saving it with OTG and internal memory. It always gets to about 21% then it reboots back into TWRP with no backup created
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
Android 11?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] Gregbmil1:
Yes, Android 11
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
TWRP kernel based on Android 10, wait for 11 kernel source to be released.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] afaneh92:
Changelog:

16.02.2021 - Initial R build for Android 11
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, ] Shawnashley:
So there will not be a way to unlock the phone without paid service? Seems shifty. There are developers here in the XDA community ths
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Team Win Recovery Project 3.x, or twrp3 for short, is a custom recovery built with ease of use and customization in mind. Its a fully touch driven user interface no more volume rocker or power buttons to mash. The GUI is also fully XML driven and completely theme-able. You can change just about every aspect of the look and feel.

* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or your getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.

Supported Models:

Galaxy Note 10+ N9750, N975U, N975U1 and N975W.

US/Canada bootloader unlock thread:

here

Download & Guide:

1. Unlock your bootloader.

2. Download Note 10+: d2q.

3. Reboot to download mode and flash vbmeta_disabled.tar in AP slot and reboot. Device will reboot to stock recovery mode prompting you to wipe data so wipe data and reboot to download mode again.

4. Put the TWRP tar for your device with Odin in the AP slot and click start.

5. Reboot to recovery via recovery key combo.

6. Disable encryption:

- Go to Advanced > Terminal, type: multidisabler.​

If vendor complain about free space left on device, will attempt to resize vendor. and it ask to - Run multidisabler again!.​

- Type: multidisabler again. will see - Finished. when done.​

7. Go back to Wipe > Format Data > type yes.

8. Reboot to recovery.

9. Flash magisk apk in twrp.

10. Reboot to system, Enjoy.

Note:

Bugs:

- Encryption not fully working.

Thanks:

TWRP team

@Mentalmuso for base device tree

@jesec for unlock guide

@ianmacd for multidisabler

Sources:

Kernel tree

Device tree
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Changelog:

30.11.2021 - Update to TWRP 3.6.0

- Update multidisabler

10.03.2021 - Update to latest TWRP source

- Add terminal multidisabler script

- fstab cleanup.

16.02.2021 - Initial R build for Android 11

01.01.2021 - Initial Release
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
Is this working on android 11?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
I will upload 11 soon, but it can work but backup is broken .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
Nice.. im looking forward to it..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
Works great on Android 11!!

Thanks!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Changelog:

16.02.2021 - Initial R build for Android 11
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] pjrs2812:
Is backup fixed?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
On android 11? Yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
Nice.. do we have working root on android 11 snapdragon?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
Can you send me a link thanks sir i want to root my phone
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
A link for what? On the main page of this forum, there are threads about how to root.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
Backup works fine! Thanks! Have not tried to do a restore yet. Will try later today.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] donkeyman1234:
Thanks, all working now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
How to root android 11?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Flash magisk in twrp.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
i experience Failed to mount '/carrier' (Invalid argument) error.. does anyone know how to fix this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Igonre it, will be fixed in next build
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
my note10+ is now in boot loop :( i already rooted it.. im gonna try to root it without twrp now,
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] powerful111:
were you able to root and have twrp working together?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
If you have US device check OP or my unlock thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
If you flashed multidisabler need to format data
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
Yes, its working so far. But i get a random restart once i unlock my phone using password, but when i unlock my phone using fingerprint or faceunlock it doesnt restart...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
My ramdisk say no.. fo we have fix step for this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] BADDINOROX99:
ok so i already unlocked my bootloader and flashed twrp but im lost on the key combo to enter recovery and flash multidisabler...ok literally just did steps 1-5 cant proceed to 6because the key combo leads to the stock recovery no twrp
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Need to be quick, once device reboot and screen goes black press vol up, bixby and power
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] BADDINOROX99:
vol up and vol up? btw the only recovery i get to is the stock one when try side key and volume up.

Update ok i flashed twrp and disabled encryption already but now I'm not sure how to flash magisk through twrp its so convoluted now cant i just flash a magisk zip? btw last time i rooted anything it was in 2017
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Keyboard auto correct lol

Flash magisk apk in twrp
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] BADDINOROX99:
wait we can flash .apk files now?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] trexander:
Just flash magisk.zip
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] BADDINOROX99:
thanks that got it to work, i feel like such a fossil lol my last rooted phone was anexus 6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
The latest N9750 ROM (N9750ZSU4FUC3/N9750OZW4FUC3/N9750ZSU4FUC3) Seems to not work well witrh your latest TWRP. Everytime I reboot, I go into TWRP, then have to reboot to system. Any ideas why?

Also multidisabler-samsung-3.1.zip is not working.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] donkeyman1234:
So twrp doesn't work with latest update to ui3.1? How do you update without losing data?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
I do a clean install

Also multidisabler-samsung-3.1.zip is not working.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] donkeyman1234:
Thanks for the information. I will wait for the twrp ui 3.1.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
I will probably go back to the previous rom for now
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] tony27786:
When I flash twrp.tar using odin, it says "Only official released binaries are allow to be flashed(recovery)". How could I handle it? THX

N9750ZSU4FUC4/N9750OZS4FUC4/N9750ZSU4FUC4/N9750ZSU4FUC4
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
connect to internet, KG state should be checking.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] tony27786:
Thanks for the information. One more question please. When I boot to recovery using Bixby + volume-up key, it boots into SS RDX rather than recovery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
You flashed v5 firmware with v4 bootloader?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] tony27786:
Probably......

And now I have Wi-Fi issue... after I restore data block using TWRP. It can not be turned on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Reflash full firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] tony27786:
Okay, I will try it. Thanks bro
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] ovstanislav:
I use this to turn off encryption in your extreme TWRP, I managed to restore the data

from 10 android.

After recovery, boot only in TWRP (((
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] vhjc:
I have an issue when I'm trying to flash vbmeta_disabled.tar, it fails and give me a mesage: "Only official released binaries are allowed to be flashed(vbmeta)"

Bootloader is unlocked.

What should I do?

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] vhjc:
Ok it seems that I have managed to flash vbmeta_disabled.tar, but now I cannot flash TWRP, every time I flash it Odin says it Pass and when I reboot to recovery it goes to stock recovery.

I'm on Android 11 UI 3.1 Firmware v5

Please help!

Nevermid, I have installed TWRP, then the multidisabler and finally Magisk.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
Will your current recovery work with A12 when it is released in February?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
yes its working and 12 already released for many devices
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] gcrutchr:
thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] doombuger:
i backed up and updated my n9750 from twrp.3.5.2-afaneh and A11 FUF2 (july2021) firmware to stock A12 HVG4 (July 2022).

i odin flashed twrp3.6.0-afaneh. rebooted to twrp.

flashed the encryption disabler. so far so good.

accidentally booted to system. no problems.

rebooted to twrp again, storage is not encrypted so thats good.

used twrp3.6.0 to flash magisk 25.2

but when i install magisk 25.2 my phone wont boot to system anymore and keeps booting to recovery..

i then Tried to restore my fuf2 twrp backup but it was unsuccessful until i rolled back my phone to FUF2 rom and reinstalled twrp.3.5.2. then restore worked.

any advice?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
Use magisk 24.3 instead of 25
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] GitaHu:
Is this file supported in version 【N9750ZSS6HWH2】?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries,] afaneh92:
yes
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] arinjayw:
Upon installing HTC task manager and selecting an option "close app when click x" am unable to change the contact details. If i use 'end programs by tapping and holding X', contacts can be changed... has anyone faced this prob.. is there any solution
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] arinjayw:
any clue??
[Redmi Note 9S / Note 9 Pro (Indian Model) Question] t3rm3y:
installed miuimix 12.0.2 but banking apps didnt work, i looked t the info and it seems they root and add magisk within the bootloader i guess? (never used or wanted to use before) so i installed magisk manager to uninstall it completely, and now it is stuck.

what do i need to do from recovery to get workign phone again?

and what rom isnt rooted / magisk installed so i can use banking apps. i dont want to be messing around with "hiding" root as i dont believe it will work consistently or may get patched in near future..
[Redmi Note 9S / Note 9 Pro (Indian Model) Question] twistyplain:
Use Miui eu. It's a debloated miui that's not rooted by default.
[Redmi Note 9S / Note 9 Pro (Indian Model) Question] t3rm3y:
Yep, had to fastboot official ROM first to get phone working then flash miui EU.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] hobbyman@:
wondering, if photoshop camera app will ever work with S7 edge SM-G935F under LineageOS 18.1 for S7 Edge Exynos. i tried once with luck, but then stopped working after a while. when i restart the phone , the program works ( sometimes not ) but only with static photos not real-time effects

therefore, any help or advice on how to fix this problem is very much appreciated.

thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] DSA:
probably not

when you try and run it, what errors happen and what to your logs say?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] AdelTheConfused:
Hello! so I have a huawei mate 20 pro 10.1.0.318(C431E8R1P5) which has been reset and now it asks for a google account or a passcode. the phone is for a friend , but unfortunately my friend cannot recall his screen password or his google account credentials.

I searched on youtube for a method , most relied on getting to emergency backup through eRecovery menu , the phone does not seem to enter the mode sometimes it:

- displays : data partition corrupted (low level format or restart)

- just boots back to the welcome screen.

after soo many cycles of research and tireless hours of digging around for a solution , I found a bunch of videos recommending me to downgrade version through something called MRT Flash tool (to downgrade from 10.1 to 9.0) the tool did not seem to work as there is no proper documentation or community to follow incase of an error (the tool is very error prone).

I just want to find a way to bypass the frp lock on phone by any way , but preferably a free ones especially if it is from the phone (being able to boot to emergency backup).

THANK YOU
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] naujametinis:
I have same problem, help us guys!!!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] zielciu1979:
I have same problem too...
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] NightOrchid:
This is easy..

You or your friend can recover or reset their own google password by installing Google Chrome on your PC or Laptop, goto "login or account" and do an account recovery..

You should have set up a 2ndary email account or phone number to send the new password or account reset too
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lionturtle95:
i can get into download mode, recovery, and the rom. but when the phone shuts down, tries to restart, or if i remove the battery i get no response. if plugged in there is no battery charging animation on screen either when it's like this. i just charge the battery seperately and insert it. if enough time has passed with no battery it will start. but if you just restart it it'll seem completely dead. i have a second battery but that doesn't make a difference.

i can usually sort of manage to find the solution to issues like this, but the google search results for anything related to any phone not starting are completely useless.. i'm probably just not coming up with the right search terms.. i need some help figuring out if this is hardware or software related. it started around the time i was messing around with android 10 roms. so i assume i must've screwed up the part of the system responsible for starting the phone back up.

i've tried to flash different roms, recoveries, bootloaders and modems with odin. i found a complete debricking guide for my model, but it seems kinda complicated and i want to know if that would even adress the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Questions & Answers] Mosaababazid:
Hi :)

I have the Galaxy Note 10 Plus (DTM > Telekom-Mobile) "Android 10" One UI 2.5

I have a problem getting updates late from Telekom-Mobile because my Phone Branding is (DTM).

That's why I'm thinking to chang the CSC to DBT so that it gets updates first. My question is, will I receive OTA updates in the future from the new service provider (DBT) in case I change the CSC or do I have to install the updates manually vis Odin?

Thanks :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Questions & Answers] zorzgeo:
Yes, You will receive updates.

When i bought my S10 it was all in Italy CSC codes. Now, i changed first 3 CSC to SEE/SEE,SEE/TIM and updates normally arriving.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kmann:
Ok, so I've been using an HTC for my last 3 phones and now have to decide if I want to go with the Raphael or the iPhone 3g. Anyone here with experience with both care to comment?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] steveoidm:
If you want a keyboard, higher res screen, multitasking, slingplayer, a wireless modem for your laptop, support from xda dev :-) like me, then you have to get the raphael. Otherwise the iphone would be ok i suppose.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] WatskeBart:
My personal opinion about the iPhone 3G is that i find it more of a gadget then a real poweruser phone.

I also like the fact that the Raphael has a keyboard and that's a must for myself.

Here's a comparison link from pdadb.net for some spec differences.

I say GO HTC! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] beardyboy:
Plus there's no Cut/Copy/Paste functionality and the only Bluetooth profiles it supports are headset and hands-free, so no file transfers or music streaming.

And you'll have to put up with poor 3G reception: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/13/iphone_not_very_3g/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] geoff.sim:
Sort of related to pros...

I had the Diamond for a week and sent it back as the battery life was useless. Also the device heated up a lot when in use. The last straw came when I was trying to use it on the beach and the screen was totally washed out.

I am currently trying out an iPhone, and I must admit it does most all of what I want (phone/email/web) and some more... and the screen is visible in bright sunlight! Just need to get over some missing things - and itunes. Oh, and O2 network (useless 3G - have to switch it off most of the time). Oh, and iplayer works fantastically... thats almost sold me now.

I still have my TyTn2 in case I need a MS6.1 fix, but as things are going, I doubt it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bxsteez:
I agree with WatskeBart 100%. The iphone has impressive hardware with the exception of the lack of keyboard of course but it can't do all that a normal smartphone can do because of the software on the device. If all u want is a media player and internet browser then u should get an iphone 3g. If you are a phone techie then u will be disappointed all the way. Not to say that the touch pro can't be a media player. As i'm writing this email i'm listening to music on my touch pro and i was watching Hancock like 30 mins ago.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FragaL:
HTC for sure!!

I talk from personal experience as I had an iPhone 3g before selling it to buy my Touch Pro.

I had the original iPhone which i soon chopped in for an N95 8gb as it was too slow for net usage and the lack of apps was rubbish. I then got the upgrade to the 3g iPhone thinking this would be an amazing bit of kit due to 3g, GPS and the new App Store. After a week of owning it I was not impressed at all.

Firstly the 3g, its half speed of the HTC only 3.4 i think as opposed to 7.2mbs and even when it does get a 3g connection it times out constently. Then when the 3g connection drops it fails to switch to Edge or GPRS sometimes which means it will never connect.

The GPS is ok, although running google maps of both the accuracy on the TP is much better I found plus you cant put TomTom on the iPhone at present.

Then there is the app store, what a load of tosh. The apps that are free are free becos, well you wouldn't pay for them and to be honest I found I had a load of apps installed just becos you could not becos you wanted them.

I would say the only thing the iPhone does better is music and games, being an iPod it should be and the games you can buy do run very well although limted due to control system.

Another niggle i had with the iPhone is the new case, it scratches so easy and you always feel you have to treat it with cotten gloves. One day indoor use and i had hairline scratches on the apple logo :(

I sold my iPhone on ebay for a tidy sum and have had a week with the Touch Pro and am so glad i did it.

Plus if you geta WM you get help and support from all the peps on here, the iPhone community is no where near as good lol