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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mixmaven:
I get about 20 minutes of calls a day, push enabled from 6:40 am to 10:40 pm, disabled nothing. Pulled the pro off the charger Thursday afternoon, went dead Sunday around 2pm. Charged it from Sunday to Monday morning, and have about 40% left now. Used bluetooth and wifi this morning for about 20 min each. I *always* run it dead, and then restart and let it die again before charging.

I charge the spare battery in my diamond. :)

-mix
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Touchpro1:
Yes, I have the same findings. Battery live is short. Only some phone calls and nothing else. 8 hours max.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Aqrab:
anyone tryed it ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nimodo:
Yes, agree.

Spec says http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49524

TALK TIME

up to 378 - 419 minutes (6 - 7 hours)

STANDBY TIME

up to 367 - 462 hours (15 -19 days!)

Forget about above values, they are not interesting, nor practical.

I'm disapointed. Its the "Up to".... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] technillion:
Life about the same...charging takes a LOOONG time...

My batt life is about the same as my TyTN II was. The difference is that I could fully charge my TyTN II from 50% to 100% in about 30 minutes..Touch Pro takes closer to 2 hours to charge back (on AC power).

T

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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
Much better now - I've switched off 3G just leave GSM (GPRS,EGPRS) services

TP was disconnected at 1:00 AM with 98% of battery and now (after 10h) battery is loaded on 71%. I've made couple of calls and 2-3 sms.

So as was mentioned before - 3G is draining TP battery like hell.

Regards

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
how do I switch 3G off?

and also..should I switch my phone to GSM only? at the moment it's set to Auto. I have push email on and receive some 40-50 emails a day, however most of the time I'm at my pc and so don't actually switch the device on. but I'm getting no more than about 14 hours before my device dies
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
I think that the problem is that the battery life is not always the same, even with the same use! I didn't do any trick to improve the battery life and it lasts, at least, one day. And in the end of the day I still have 20%.

@Vasko:

Try to activate the flight mode during the night and see how it behaves.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] scarecrow2012:
I get about 2 days out of it. Make about 10-15 calls per day average talk time is only about 2-5 mins. Internet use is only about 10-15 mins/day also. Set to WCDMA only and Bluetooth on all the time.

When i got it I charged the phone for about 4 hours before I turned it on. Also when I installed Mobile Shell I was only getting one day out of it so I went back to touchflo. Tried Wifi for about 20 mins but that ate the battery at about 1% every 1-2 min.

Im on '3 mobile' in Australia.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] vido.ardes:
I finished charging mine about 6:30 pm last night, spent 2-3 hours browsing the web on HSPDA, spent atleat half hour using the GPS, half hour playing teeter, sent 10 messages and have spent about half hour talking on it, and as of 2pm it is warning of low battery. For most of that time I have had ActiveSync on aswell.

I'm not massivly impressed, but it's doing what I would expect of a phone with so much tech in it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wolkewietje:
Battery life

People,

A had a short batt. life as well. But U can change this without switching off

3G etc...

Just fully drain you're batt. and then let it charge up to 12 hours. do this 2 or three times and you're battery gets much stronger.

My Raphael can do 3 days now incl. phone calls, text messages and E-Mail.

By the way, you should do this procedure with every new phone!

Greetz.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] wolkewietje:
A few tips!

Batteries with fuel gauge (laptops&phones) should be calibrated by applying a deliberate full discharge once every 30 charges. Running the pack down in the equipment does this. If ignored, the fuel gauge will become increasingly less accurate and in some cases cut off the device prematurely.

Keep the lithium-ion battery cool. Avoid a hot car. For prolonged storage, keep the battery at a 40% charge level.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] knight14th:
I've had an interesting experience with my old htc magician after I bought it:

With my O2 simcard it was running to full discharged twice as fast as with my E-Plus simcard.

With O2 it have had about 4 days standby, using E-Plus simcard it was running for about 10 days without charging.

Maybe there is something with the simcard's power consumption.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Vasko:
I have to agree with hnparedes, the battery consumption is highly irregular, i can´t seem to find any pattern for this.

This morning, after 7 hours of standby the battery it only went down 1% !!! The only thing i did was to soft reset the unit before. This is confusing as hell because the night before, after about the same period of standby, the batt got almost flat.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] knight14th:
Maybe there is a bug in the current rom release.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] scotchua:
Could also be related to the quality of signal you get from each provider. Stronger signal means less power consumption. Just a thought.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] knight14th:
Not in my case 'cause I live in a real big city and here are gsm antennas everywhere (I can see them).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] danielherrero:
Using only 3G when you request high bandwidth and 2G rest of the time duplicates the battery life if you use direct push. It happened in the same way with other 3G HTC devies (Athena, kaiser, trinity, hermes, polaris, .....)

Dani
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nimodo:
I'm actually making now the same experience (turning 3G on, only when needed) increased my battery life time drastically, cool. With my usage profile, i'm on second day now with ~45% showed.

(for turning on/off 3G -> CommManager and Advanced Configuration Tool used)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Mitch92uK:
hi guys

could i get some reccs. on increasing the battery life on my new today touch pro?

email is set to manual, weather updates manual, everything is turned off in comms. manager other than cell phone .. can't think of anything else atm.

Should I try the cab which has been floating about for inc. battery life? Any registry tweaks which help battery life?

cheers!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jiggs1337:
What im finding is that it stays at 20% for much longer than it should compared to how fast it got there. You may think its reducing too fast, but let it fully drain once, and see how long it lasts. Ignore the indicator for a while
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
For those who want to know what is the difference between power consumption 2G vs 3G mode just try this link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=421091&page=2

Very usefull application replacing HTCCommManager with battery consumtion graph.

As was mentioned there, battery consumtion on 3G is double rate of 2G.

Regards

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gizmos:
went to bed last night 11pm - it was fully charged - 6am this morning beep beep - battery low

activesync was running and was on 3G - close activesync and took ages to die the rest of the way
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
I charged my phone overnight on Monday (from 9pm until 6.30am) and it had only reached 88% (there is another thread about slow charging somewhere). By 9pm monday night it was down to 10%..with only a little use.

I charged it again on Tuesday night over night and by 4am it had reached 100%. I made some changes to the config (GSM only instead of auto, and band to 900/1800). I plugged it into my PC for 15 mins yesterday to install something which might have given it a little bit of a charge. but right now it's sitting at 50%. so that's 1 1/2 days and it's used 50%...it seems to be a case of the battery/phone 'learning' about the battery status.

I will be keeping an eye on it over the next couple of charges to see if I can at least get 2 days out of it which is just about acceptable to me
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
that said, I've just performed a soft reset and it's gone down to 35%!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ferus:
Err... maybe a stupid n00b lamer question but how do I turn 3G off? :-)

I switched my phone band to GSM only - is that enough?

(TP i smy very first smartphone/PDA/PPC so that explains it).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
I suppose that WM has problem to refresh battery status rather than it's battery problem.

I,m using GreenBattery application to get details of battery capacity and I've observed that everytime when I'm charging TP via USB the status is not changing (if it was 60% it's still 60% during charging)

The battery status will change if you disconnect (or reset) TP.

Regards

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
Yeap, you should swith your band to GSM, but then your data transfer will be limited to EDGE speed. And of course no video connections are available.

Regards

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ferus:
Thanks for the advice... I can live with that - I will check if it really does have an impact on the battery life and I will switch 3G off when I won't be expecting video calls ;-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
I think that is a ROM problem. Sometimes, after I a soft-reset, the battery live increases, sometimes 10%. And I don't have any programs runnig, not even ActiveSync!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Martl23:
how long ist the standby time in a "3g only" network? i am thinking about buying an htc touch pro. my provider doesn´t serve gsm; even talking runs via umts.

my average daily usage:

1-2 hours of talking

80 sms

1 hour online

will the akku of the touch pro last for one day under these circumstances?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
with 3g my TP stayed max 10h
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Martl23:
only 10 hours without any usage?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
With normal usage - couple of calls - 2-3 (10min max) and couple of sms, couple of minuts on games etc. but without data transfering and so on.

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] colnreid:
Touch Pro battery life / random shutting down

I have a Touch Pro, and when it stays on, the battery is gone before the day is finished.

However what is more irritating, is the unit turns off completely at random.

I have put my sim back in the Nokia, and used the pphone for push email today. The unit stopped and had to be restarted 6 times.

As it stands it is not useable as a phone at all, despite it clearly has brilliant potential.

Can the text messages be saved, like the Nokia?

Can you text from the computer?

Colin
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jiggs1337:
I had mine fully charged today at 13:00.

Ive made about 20min of phone calls, >80 sms (i cant see any numbers anywhere telling me how many are in my inbox, so im not sure), about 20 min of browsing, 1 email account auto checking every 30 minutes. EDGE on all day. I did a lot of playing around with it, trying out various programs. Messed around with CorePlayer, but only about a total of 10 minutes of music.

Its now 22:35 here, 9.5 hours so far since 100% charge. The charge now is 26%.

Before i stopped ActiveSync from constantly starting itself using the trick on this forum, the battery drain seemed a lot worse. Ill be getting a whole day out of it, while still using it pretty frequently. I always press the power button to put it into stand-by when not using it. The battery drains very slow in stand-by now, whereas before, with activesync on, it would drain much more.

EDIT: It's now 01:00, 12 hours since 100%. The charge is now at 15%. So, 85% in 12 hours with regular, but not excessive usage.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
I agree that the behavior is not constant. But if I'm not doing nothing special, a couple of calls, some WIFI, text messages... The battery lasts for 1,5 or 2 days. Yesterday I unplugged the PRO at 8am and today I still have around 70%. And I made some calls, text messages, use the WIFI and even transferred 3 GB of data from the mobile to the laptop using the "Disk Drive" option.

But when I push for it and do a heavy usage, the battery life is of one day.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Touchpro1:
Battery live in combination with GPS

Yesterday i tried GPS. Battery level 40 % when i started. no GPRS. Connected to a HTC car Charger. Within 20 min the Battery run out of energy. With the car charger still connected and loading!!! Telephone shut down. Yesterday evening. Battery 100 % after loading via the electricity network. Used GPS and after 15 min the battery was 30 % less. Remaining 70 %. So i think this is bad, very bad. How to improve??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] da_jojo:
somewhere there is an option which sets whether it should also charge the battery when connected to usb. probably you have turned this off.

also its best to keep this thing in the charger as much as possible as the battery was made to be happy with this.

on first use i recommend at least 6 hours on the charger (the wall-outlet one)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Touchpro1:
GPS in combination with battery

Thnx for responding! Yes i'am aware of the option. Next time when i use GPS i will enable charging via USB. Few days ago, only the telephone was on and then it charges with the option: no charge via USB on. So I'am a little bit confused. But testing should give the solution. Thnx again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] knight14th:
where to set this up? I'd like to disable charging over usb from time to time...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Incarniac:
Settings -> System tab -> Power -> When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC.

Alternatively, using Advanced Config, it's under the Power Management sub-menu.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] XL3N7:
I took my device off the charger yesterday at 6pm, battery fully charged at 100%. In a matter of minutes it went down to about 80% without much usage. After that I have been using it to play games and exploring it almost all night. At 4am it was around 20%, where it stayed until 7:30 - 8 am when I turned on the GPS for a few minutes and I received the notification to charge my device to prevent it from losing data. After that I got a message saying that my device would turn off in 10 seconds. 4-5 seconds later I got the same notification but the device didn't power off even after 2-3 minutes. I turned wi-fi and bluetooth on as also the music player and I have been listening to mp3s for the last 90 minutes, before the device eventually decided to power off.

Could it be a bug in the indicator and battery life isn't that bad after all?

I should say that my N95 never managed to last a whole night shift without the battery dying (battery life was really bad) and the Touch pro still had enough juice to run the GPS for about 30 minutes and the music player, wifi and bluetooth for 90 minutes.

Sorry for the long post. Hope we have found something here.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] WDawn:
I have my TP now for 10 days and I think the battery needs to go trough a few charging cycles before you get accurate readings and a good battery life.

I was at an exposition yesterday, took over a 100 pictures with it, played 1 hour of music in my car, had 1 hour of calls, received about 50 mails (bleutooth, wifi and 3G shut off, because i feared not to make it till the end of the day), and still i had 40% left of my battery at 11 pm. For me that's really good.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bzdziagwa:
I'm agree with that - I'm using my TP for week and a half and I'm observing battery improvement now comparing to week before.

I'm testing CommManagerPro at the moment - there is a nice feature showing graph of current battery usage (in mA values) so I'm observing what I said above.

B.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mrvanx:
Wasnt sure if i have posted this before, probably have elsewhere in the forum.

Has anybody fired up advanced configuration tool and enabled ALL the power management settings?

Is working SWEET this end after doing that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] da_jojo:
there is a new version 3.1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=420855

and a dutch translation of it which i made

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=109822&d=1220134334
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
I'll install that application and try it. I already install this applcation CommMgrPro (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=421091) and works great.

One more experience with the Pro. I unplug the Pro from the charger Thursday at 8h30 am. Only today at noon I plugged it again to the charger. I made several phone calls, a lot of text messages, some emails (over WIFI or HSPDA) and GPS. I'm amazed...

The problem is that I don't have this performance always. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] klabton:
I have applied all those setting. It's 10:38 am. Phone is on battery from 3h 30 minutes and I have 60 % left. I have recived 4 mails, 3 sms. No games, no wifi, no gps.

Active apps:

- pushmail (mail2web)

- Weather autoupdate (only when I come to tab)

- s2u

Edit:

Its 12:37 and I have 40 % I've recived and send less than 10 sms. No phone calls. 3 emails.

I think, that radio rom could be responsible for this. I've got wizard and hermes before and i've always tested radio roms for better signal and less battery drain.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
I also have the opinion that is a ROM problem, mainly because the behavior is not the same.

PDA's also have more issues when the network has some problems!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Vasko:
Here's what i've found out so far, at least this happening with my TP:

- After syncing with PC, killing activesync (on the device) will start a strange behavior which will lead to drain battery very fast. However this will stop after a soft reset.

- I've measured this behavior with aebutton plus uptime meter and despite the device was on standby, the uptime kept rising... very odd.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] klabton:
Is it possible, that S2U2 is draining battery?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
Yes, I think so. Today I installed the last version (1.21) and in few minutes 4% were gone!! In older versions I had the same problem.

Now, after some hours, only 1% is gone without doing much!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] peter7:
What for is that software ? Where do I get an update in orde o prevent the battery problem ?

Thanks

myrin
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Be careful with using the battery level % - i do not think it is accurate. I have been monitoring this over the last few days and have noticed that it appears to get stuck and then suddenly jump. For instance my battery level was at 100% for 6 hours - ok no useage - only to check the battery level. Then when i started to use the phone it had jumped down to 95% in a matter of minutes. It appears the battery status is not being updated / monitored correctly. Personally i think there is a software bug with the power management / battery handling. For the first time last night, it was on charge for 4.5 hours and only reached 87%, however the current drawn was only 80mA, indicating the battery was not charging. One soft reset later, and the device was saying 100%.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] klabton:
S2U2 is a screen locking software.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=381588

And I'm sure this software drains battery :)

To prevent battery drain, You must install Advanced Config tool and enable all registry tweaks in Power Managment tab.

You can find this program here: http://www.touchxperience.com/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
For measuring the battery level I'm using the CommMngPro.

But I think that what you said is true, the battery seams to get stuck on a value and then changes suddenly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] johnk1973:
I totally agree.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Develop_OXYG:
I've got the same observation with my 2 TPs. I’ll try different charger (Kaiser??)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Its not the charger at fault. Both the TP and tytn deliver 1A at 5V.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Develop_OXYG:
Yeah, the same numbers on both chargers (Raphael/Kaiser), but i'll try it :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
This is a screenshot from the battery consumption on my PRO. Has you can see, you have a flat line for several hours, then it drops and after a restart, the battery level increases again.

Explanations to this???
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] CeeCee:
How is the battery life after two weeks or more use? Any difference to early days?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sanderd:
I have not yet done any tweaks (apart from some buffer sizes etc). This just happened:

Fully charged:

- wifi on, but apparently disconnects when I put the device in standby

- 3g off, BASE only has 2g/EDGE

- activesync running, but I don't use it / it's not configured

No other programs running as far as the built-in tasklist is concerned.

Made one phonecall (2 minutes), and sent 2 text messages, then put the device back in standby.

3 or 4 hours later, it was feeling warm (not hot, just warm), and the battery drained to 30%

Last night, it also somehow drained, while it was 70% before going to bed. I did listen to an mp3 of 35 minutes though, in Windows Media Player.

Argh, the worst bugs are the ones that happen irregularly and without obvious cause
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] klabton:
I can say its a little bit better. But still not good as my previous Hermes.

Im running 2G/EDGE, PushMail, +/- 20 calls, around 30 sms and mails. Some fun, some RSS.

Unplugged at 7 AM. Now it's 23 PM and 25% left.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
Nothing to say. 2 days at least using everything: sms, calls, wi-fi, gps...

Today, at the end of the second day with the same charge, I have 55%, I made several phone calls and sms.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] klabton:
Where are You from, and what radio You have?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] hnparedes:
I live in The Hague, The Netherlands. The radio version is 1.02.25.19 and the operator is T-Mobile.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
I'm also having most of the battery behaviors that users have been describing here.

I would like to get rid of the most processes/apps that are running on the startup, to see if that helps the batt.

Apart from the \Windows\Startup folder, can anyone tell me how to disable the other apps (not every thing lies on the startup folder) not to load on the startup?? Maybe via registry? If yes, what is the reg??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
I use memmaid which gives you the option to control start up items similar to windows xp. You can set services to auto or manual start - so you don't end up removing important items.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] indiana99:
Battery life better than original Touch

I tested the battery life Sunday. I got between 11 and 12 hours of continous music interrupted by a couple of short calls and a few MMS. It took about 2 hours, 40 minutes to fully recharge. That's slightly better than the battery life on my original Touch.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willbeh:
On the first day that I bought TP, I charge it for 7 hours through the night. In the morning, I nortice that it shows only 70% full but the full charge light is shown on the D-pad. It only lasted me until around 7pm and that is with very light usage. 3G, wifi, etc is off. On the second night I charge it, it show 90% full and it last me to around 7pm with 10 min of GPS, abit of browsing, and a few calls. Now I'm trying my third charge.

I read the battery will take some time to be fully optimize. But is my situation normal or is there something wrong with my TP batt?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] indiana99:
I am under the impression that all rechargeable batteries should be completely discharged and recharged.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] willbeh:
Read that Li-Ion battery better to charge it often. No need to wait for it to recharged.

My question is does it make a difference to charge it full always? does charging it partially often reduce the battery life? How about always leaving it charging overnight?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Hopefully this article will answer your question

Guide to maximise Li-ion battery life.

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

As can be seen repeated full discharges are not recommended, but a full dischare once ina while to callirate the battery meter is required.