yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Vovan2k:
Actual link does not work though i managed to find working one here.

LineageOS builds for the OnePlus 8 Pro - Mirror

Mirrors for LineageOS builds for the OnePlus 8 Pro (instantnoodlep).

www.celsoazevedo.com
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Vovan2k:
Backed up my DATA partition with TWRP

Formatted phone

Installed lineage-18.1-20220821-nightly-instantnoodlep-signed.zip using TWRP in both slot A and slot B

Spoiler content hidden.

Restored DATA partition backup

I run into strange behavior after restoring backup from TWRP - homescreen was broken no drop down from top, no 3 buttons on bottom (and no option to enable them in menu), when holding power button the power menu had basic android look.

Basically phone was unusable, i even installed nova launcher and it did not fix anything.

Then i booted in TWRP and switched from slot B to slot A and phone started just fine no problem with UI anymore.

Can someone explain what happened?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] magicmckinney:
I have never been able to restore apk's only from one rom to another. They have be installed fresh when you set up a new rom. TWRP works good to back up a whole system and restore that whole sytem down the road. You can boot to recovery and wipe your phone and set it up fresh to fix it.

I have switched roms so many times I made a system to restore fairly fast even on current favorite rom which is Lineage/MicroG which has no play store to sign into.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] TweeterBox:
I know Lineage doesnt support 18.1 anymore, but can i still instal it as a usable/functioning day to day rom?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Adrianer:
Why shouldn't it work? It will still work - but the security patches will be totally out of date, so wouldn't recommend it. LineageOS 21 works perfectly for me.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] TweeterBox:
What difference does it make if the patches are out of date?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Adrianer:
This are *security* patches. If they are out of date, your phone is much more likely to get compromised/hacked.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
You'll have better luck going with 8T builds but I don't promise anything.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Qifka:
What about flashing GApps? Can I do it via adb?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Binary Assault:
Obligatory warning - do this at your own risk. This image may cause your cat to explode, phone to melt or give you a heart attack. I am not responsible for any issues you may have.

Download the patched image here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13fonp1uyl-FOxHLJ0yYbWZdieLEdE73A/view

Follow Instructions from this link, copied below for convivence (https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-8-pro/how-to/root-uk-eu-patched-magisk-boot-img-t4175033)

Booting the patched image first

1. Obtain a patched boot img for your device variant preferably using payload dumper or download one of mine from the foot of this guide or if you've just performed the above guide you should already have a functional one, copy this file to your fastboot folder on your computer

**NOTE - Again the above suggested downloads are for the EU/ UK variant- if you have another model / firmware please use that instead, If you did not obtain the boot.img from a firmware and patch it yourself, you will need to patch it again in magisk manager, to avoid a bootloop

2. Reboot your phone to fastboot and connect to your computer.

3. Boot the magisk patched img

fastboot boot magisk_patched.img

4. Reboot your phone, your phone should now boot and you should now be rooted but we need to make this permanent.

5. Open magisk manager and click install/update, if you are missing the install/ update buttons, change magisk version to beta in magisk settings.

6. Select Direct install (recommended)

7. Allow magisk to permanently root your device then click reboot.

You should now remain rooted.

What I have noticed is that I have to perform this twice for some reason. So if you boot, create permeant root then reboot and lose root, perform the same instructions a second time.

Note to anyone that may try this, this boot image is for lineage-18.0-20201122_035038 GMS ONLY! All other variants may break your phone.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
Curiously even by following the boot.img patching method I still get crashdump. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] zizzyboi:
No face unlock? Why
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] dlads:
Such a bundle of joy as always.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
[MENTION=7495647]Binary Assault[/MENTION] Tried flashing the GMS build just to try your patched boot.img, without success...

Any idea what's up with that ? Feels like a weird issue to have >.>
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Binary Assault:
Need more details..

Are you saying you are in LOS 18 already and the patched boot image I provided doesn't work for you? Define "without success"
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
Same here, still got the crashdump :(
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Binary Assault:
Please provide some details. What android version? Did LOS run prior to crash dump? What OS?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
That LineageOS 18.0 Android 11 OP provided, 20201122 GMS variant. With LOS boot.img it worked fine but after I boot (or flash) the patched magisk boot.img it went to the same Qualcomm Crash Dump mode with the exitcode 0x0000000b:crying:
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ps000000:
Same as me. Then I fall back to stock now.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Binary Assault:
Interesting. I did the patching on A10, but that shouldn't matter. Not sure the issue.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Alan Shore:
This was easy as hell to flash...

Times are changing.... It's not drop a zip into your SD card anymore and hit flash...

---------- Post added at 10:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 AM ----------

Giving some feedback coming from the first Android 11 build... Flashing lineage-18.0-20201122_035038-UNOFFICIAL-instantnoodlep-gms

C:\Users\alan shore\Downloads\fastboot>fastboot -w

Erasing 'userdata' OKAY [ 0.740s]

CreateProcess failed: The system cannot find the file specified. (2)

fastboot: error: Cannot generate image for userdata

C:\Users\alan shore\Downloads\fastboot>fastboot erase scratch

Erasing 'scratch' FAILED (remote: 'Partition doesn't exist')

fastboot: error: Command failed

Everything else passed, i'm sure the boot animation takes 10 minutes like other phones... So just sitting here waiting :)
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
[MENTION=1870340]Alan Shore[/MENTION] Boot is supposed to be pretty fast. The scratch partition never existed for me as well. However, I'm not sure the fastboot -w is supposed to output this, but if it works I guess it's okay.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Alan Shore:
That stinks, Never ending boot animation now. :(
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
Uh, your wipe failed. You can either redownload proper android tools from google and redo that step or just wipe data in recovery instead.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Qifka:
I'm having the same error(Partition doesn't exist) flashing system.img and everything below. Any idea why?

Can it be because I'm trying to install from Open Beta 4?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
Didn't try with the Open Beta, but I guess you could flash the latest firmware from msmtools, and then unlock bootloader from there.

You need to flash the images from LOS fastbootd, not bootloader (which is why you need to reboot after flashing recovery.img).
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Alan Shore:
That worked! Thank you :)

Booted to recovery, did factory reset, came up in like 30 seconds tops.

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Does the Magisk Module work on any other builds at the moment or does it fail on all of them?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
[MENTION=1870340]Alan Shore[/MENTION] Magisk doesn't seem to work at all from what I've tried (I tried all LOS builds and only the latest GMS).

No idea what the issue is, but without Magisk I cannot use Microg or flash my Migrate backup, so I keep trying to find out what the issue is.

Even tried booting a patched boot.img for the latest OOS, which after a glitchy screen got stuck on a bootloop, but at least no crashdump.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Alan Shore:
Can confirm Magisk install gives bootloop...

Back to stock and stacking those cards... Thanks Dev for working on this!

Requesting Dev add (Make sure you back up your Persist.IMG before you proceed) I almost had to msmdownloadtool over trying to go back to Android 10, Once this is rooted, i'll be able to back mine up.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Panzer87:
so i tried a million times to get magisk manager to patch the Pixel Experience 11 Beta boot image. i went into settings and changed update channel in magisk manager settings to beta. once i changed to beta, i went back and patched the stock pe 11 boot image and the magisk_patched image rooted my device now. i can always tell because most boot img are about 98MB in size. using titanium as we speak. this is what i did to get root on pixel experience 11 beta. see if this works for Lineage.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
No luck, tried with Canary as well, still getting crashdump. That's unfortunate. >.>
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Justingaribay7:
Hello All,

Is there an straight forward way to update the Rom without having to erase user data? If so please help me out as I have installed the first build available and want to keep the Rom up to date with all the new changes . Thank you :)
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
Just skip the first 6 steps. Go into Fastbootd and flash the new files from boot.img to vbmeta_system.img
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Justingaribay7:
Worked like a charm! Thanks qane! Much appreciated!!
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Alan Shore:
I just got done doing the msmdownloadtool by InstantNoodle, Thank you so much sir.

Imma sit here on Android 10 for quite a while until all this stuff is ironed out. 11 has been a nightmare these last two days.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
I managed to get root by booting this patched img. (boot.img from the pixelexperience 11 Beta). I was also successful in flashing the image, so it seems like the issue might be related to this specific ROM's boot.img and Magisk patching. I'm not sure I would recommend keeping the flashed boot image from a different ROM however, will switch back to stock after using Migrate.

Edit: This image has been patched with Magisk Canary which might have bugs, but you could reflash it with the beta instead. I'm also obviously not responsible for any damage.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] oscarmaldonado:
I want to thank you for your effort, thanks to you I'm rooted now, it's time to restore all my apps. Thanks again for sharing bud... you're the best.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] KennyG9:
Hi!

I'd like to this build for the OP8 but since mauronofrio's TWRP isn't working for Android 11 yet, the zip files I was producing for LOS 17.1 aren't usable anymore. So I have a few questions:

- How are all the imgs actually produced from the LOS build? Are they simply extracted from the payload.bin using LOS' update-payload-extractor script? I think I tried this a few months ago, but it just resulted in a bootloop to bootloader (and a device bricked to the point I had to restore using MSM). Also, if I do this, I have a lot of missing imgs compared to the builds from the OP.

- How do you flash gapps on those images? Do you just mount the system image as a FS, and extract the GApps in the FS, and make a new image? Or do you have a more practical tool?

- Do you need to install OOS 11 first or something?

Thanks.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] sefai77:
How to root then update this rom oneplus8 pro ?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
[MENTION=4163004]KennyG9[/MENTION] afaik you can just obtain these images by signing builds.

When doing so on greatlte, I get a "signed-target_files.zip" and a "signed-ota_update.zip". The second one can just be flashed as usual, but I think the first one contains each necessary images (might be mistaken though).

For OOS 11, I think so. Haven't checked with OOS10, but you'll most likely get a crashdump if not on OOS11.

[MENTION=3135572]sefai77[/MENTION] update by just rebooting to fastbootd and skipping the first 6 steps of the guide on how to flash. Then use the magisk_patched boot img I uploaded earlier in the thread to get root. I would not recommend keeping it however, as it does not come from this ROM. You should mostly use it for Migrate.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] KennyG9:
Thanks. Turns out I just had to open my eyes and notice that all the imgs (except for the "-debug" ones) are in the output directory after the build 🤦. I'm pretty sure flashing them directly results in a bootloop though.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Wickidmasshole:
This worked perfect with no ill effects so far.... wonder why?

either way THANKS!
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
No problem !

By the way the latest build seems to support magisk via adb or image patching without going into crashdump.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
Running this now, latest 23-11 build. Magisk 21.1 patches the original boot.img just fine and i have no real issues with the ROM so far. Just a few small things.

- Setting up FP flashes backlight weirdly but does work.

- Setting minimal refresh rate to 120hz freezes or crashes settings and does not apply.

- Camera doesn't open gallery when tapping a new photo in the bottom left corner.

- Not a ROM issue but i do miss it. Quick unlock PIN Mike stock OOS has. So that you don't need to press the enter / OK key. Is there any way to get that?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
>- Setting minimal refresh rate to 120hz freezes or crashes settings and does not apply.

logs?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
Am I the only one seeing weird behavior from the navigation hint ? It's supposed to be disabled but appears on fullscreen apps (sometimes on the wrong side), and mess up the touchscreen on the side it's on.

Logcat using NewPipe as an example is available here if needed.

Clarification : the navigation hint appears when it shouldn't, and creates a deadzone on the side of the touchscreen it's on.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
I'll have to look up how to generate a useful log for this problem first. I'm quite at home in the general flashing and such but not really in logs.

I am using a fresh clean install with no apps installed yet at the time of testing just basic setup complete. 23-11 build with GMS. I did root the stock boot.IMG with magisk 21.1 before testing this.

I did also check with developer options show refresh rate and it does lock at 60. It never goes to 120.

Also noticed another weird thing. Heads up notifications don't seem to work at all for any app.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] vanish0104:
I keep getting "Writing 'system_ext' FAILED (remote: 'No such file or directory')".
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
Done, here's a log I made from developer options power menu shortcut. Hopefully its useful.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
1) I'd prefer if you used your PC for getting logs

2) You aren't running non-lineage kernel, are you?

3) Did you even change min refresh rate before saving logs? You know, you actually want to log the issue...
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
Yes, I did change it before making a log.

I'll use PC with adb logcat when i get home. Don't have adb available at work.

No, I run stock LOS kernel patched with magisk 21.1 for root. I can try just for testing purposes with the Pixel Experience kernel tho. Or the stock boot.IMG without root.

As I said, I'm not a newb when it comes to flashing and such, been doing it for years onany different phones, but never really focused or learned properly which logs are needed for which problem.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
Try latest build, i fixed settings crash that'd happen on non-US alike locales.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] MariusKv:
what about 120hz ? it wont sett, and settings crashed i am on the new build
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
That's exactly what I was talking about. Also you sure are on new one? I uploaded like 3 builds today.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] MariusKv:
Ohhh i got the first one before you uploaded the new one
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
It's fixed. Works fine 120Hz on the newest build. I am in a non-US locale. (PHN CSC a.k.a. Netherlands) and it works perfectly fine now. Developer options refresh rate overlay also shows 120Hz now so.

Thanks a lot!
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] juancheco95:
i used magisk canary on latestbuild boot.img patched it and flash magisk patched.img on to fastbootd and booted just fine
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
[MENTION=4288735]juancheco95[/MENTION] Flashing adb/patching the boot.img used to force the phone into a crashdump until a few days ago. Magisk beta works fine as well since 20201125 if I remember correctly.

By the way, any idea of what was the issue [MENTION=5075128]LuK1337[/MENTION] (out of curiosity) ?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] LuK1337:
I too would like to know the answer to that question.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ProAm500:
Also getting the same error.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] :
You did fastboot reboot fastboot as instructions says?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] ProAm500:
Followed instructions on OP in order

To add...I had Lineage 17 flashed. Do I need to be on stock?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] cultofluna:
LoL ..

You need 11 system
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] vanish0104:
So I need to be on OOS 11 and then flash this?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
[MENTION=7571768]vanish0104[/MENTION] Yes, flash latest build with MSMtools, unlock bootloader and then follow the instructions.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] mattie_49:
Will this work with the Op8 and not the pro?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] aoaleman:
Damn, thank you so much for this! Successfully flashed on the first time. :D
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] vanish0104:
Thanks! Got everything working and now I am running LOS 18.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mihalaki:
Has anyone got Google pay to work? If not does root with Magisk hide allow it to work?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] FernBch:
Thinking about coming back to LOS, it and CM before it has always been a fav. I have one question before I do.

I keep seeing posts about Verizon, modem, A11, and not being able to flash LOS 18 (A11) yet.

I'm a Big Red Customer but aquired my device directly from 1+, am running A11 OB4, and am BL unlocked, have the latest Magisk canary, etc.

Since my device came from 1+, not VZW, I should be able to flash this. Correct?

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Oh, stupid question, too. [emoji16][emoji16]

Gapps included or do I need? If need, which? I'm a minimal Gapps person....

I've downloaded lineage-18.0-20201128_014340-UNOFFICIAL-instantnoodlep-gms.zip
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
I don't know if Verizon blocks the ability to flash images (but that wouldn't be surprising tbh), but if you are willing to flash, you most likely have nothing to lose trying. Worst case scenario you'll just have to flash stock via msmtools.

GMS builds contain GAPPS. Not minimal (quite a lot of apps for my taste), but you could disable them. Otherwise you might be able to flash your own GAPPS on the non-gms build with adb. I don't use GAPPS so I am not sure about the second one.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
[MENTION=5075128]LuK1337[/MENTION] I found another bug / problem. Adding a fingerprint during first install works fine but now adding a second one from security menu doesn't trigger the FP sensor. It asks to touch the FP on the back of the phone and doesn't trigger the front reader at all.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
I cannot reproduce this issue. The fingerprint setup doesn't mention the "fingerprint reader on the back", and works fine. Are you on latest build ?
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Imprezzion:
I'm on 27-11 145636 so probably not the latest. 28-11 doesn't seem to have the problem and it added a second one just fine but it might as well have been the reboot / cache clear that did it lol. Not sure, i can't seem to be able to reproduce it either anymore. Ignore my message lol.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] FernBch:
Not sure how Big Red can block me, it's not a Big Red device, just curious. My last device was their branded P3XL so I've been out of the custom scene for a bit. This one has been on a few of the custom kernels already. Guess I'll be taking it for a spin......
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Niranjan Bapat:
Google Pay works fine with MagiskHide enabled, have not tested it on LOS18. But i guess regardless of which OS you use, it should work as it works for me.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Mihalaki:
Thanks. Does not seem to work with Magisk hide enabled on all roms but I might give it a try.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] zeusakatkm:
Hello! This ROM seems to run really well. My only problem is unfortunately a big one. I started by flashing A11 with MSMtool and unlocked the bootloader. Then I copied and pasted the commands one at a time. Everything looked like it worked, except I have no mobile data, like my sim card isn't there. In fact it tells me to insert my sim card when I never took it out to begin with. This is on the latest Nov. 29th GSM build.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] Minth:
Have you tried changing your SIM card slot ? If you have no important data setup yet, you should also redownload and reflash the OSS11 build and check if everything works properly.

I don't know if it is necessary anymore, but a factory reset via the lineage recovery can also help having a truly "clean" environment.
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] amilliron:
Hi All,

so when I am going through this, I am getting stuck. First thing I notice is that 'fastboot reboot fastboot' sends me into fastbootd, and when getting back to fastboot, it fails to boot into userspace? I'm thinking this is messing up the rest of the install process, as when I attempt to do 'fastboot flash system system.img' it fails in writing 'system' as partition not found.

Any help on where i go from here? I've tried this with LOs 17 and 18. OnePlus 8 Pro. Thanks!!
[OnePlus 8 Pro  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other ] mattie_49:
Wrong thread. Thought this was lineage 17