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[General Topics] bulls96:
thank you for the instructions here!! I am new to this forum and found this because i was searching for Manila 2D on Treo Pro.

Question... is the NEW google maps app compatible with this?
[General Topics] bulls96:
and how do i adjust the settings here? i could not find the app on my programs folder. thanks!
[General Topics] Ineedtoys:
No it hasn't. It only has short range irda for linking with other legacy Palms and laptops.

No they don't. Most have done away with IR completely 'cos everyone's moved on to Bluetooth. Palm kept it for legacy reasons as above, but it's gone in the Pre.
[General Topics] hellketty:
too many steps need to be follow before enjoy manila, i am planing to try this M2D later after hard-spl cracked ready, because at that moment i can cook a rom which including all of these bloody hell apps once for all

thx for the hard work anyway!
[General Topics] Miss_AJ:
Hi Everyone,

I'm a recent owner of the Treo Pro and I absolutely love it. I love the fact that I've been able to download and use TouchFlo 2D.

The issue I'm having is, I am only able to use 2 themes. The default and 1 other theme that I downloaded. When I attempt to use any other themes, I run into the same problem. 1/4 of my screen on the right side is stuck. I've searched several forums and the answer that I've found has been to replace the HTCHomeSetting XML....I've done this several times and this has not fixed the problem. I was wondering if there is another solution out there that I have yet to try. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!
[General Topics] oVan:
Since using my HTC Trinity I've almost never started my bluetooth receiver anymore... and I have the impression that the receiver in the Treo Pro is just a tiny bit more sensitive, hooray! I now get 7-8 satellites where before I got around 5-6 satellites.

I have now sucessfully changed Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 so that it runs on the Treo Pro. I'll post details soon on my site: http://www.treoprotricks.com/
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Why don't you PM a mod/admin and ask? :P

I sent a PM to an admin asking for a G1 forum, the very next day I had a message in my inbox linking me to the new Dream section. Don't know if it's a coincidence or it was done by request, either way I'm very happy.
[General Topics] lewcamino:
Bump for Palm Treo Pro forum before mine arrives in the mail!
[General Topics] oVan:
Whom should we contact?
[General Topics] lewcamino:
Try Flar?

I have also taken the liberty of creating a WiKi page for us.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PalmTreoPro
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Haha I'd hate to throw out a name and get their PM box flooded with requests, but I PMed Flar (because another user told me she'd be the one to ask) and the Dream forum appeared like magic. ONE PERSON PM her and ask, just ovan... Haha I can imagine her signing in tomorrow morning and having 250 PM's all about the forum and me getting hanged. x_x
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Hooray, information for all!
[General Topics] lewcamino:
I don't know about all that just yet :)

But it is a start.
[General Topics] oVan:
I asked Flar, and they have discussed it already amongst moderators. Currently there will be no Treo Pro forum because there's not enough demand for it.

I can only ask that everyone with a Treo Pro, or with an open mind, would ask in this thread for a dedicated forum... thanks in advance!
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Wowww, that surprises me. The Treo Pro seems to be one of the hottest new phones out there! Also, it's $550 unlocked compared to $900+ for a lot of the phones on here, I think it'll spread like wildfire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, discuss it in the General/Off-Topic forum and if it generates enough buzz maybe they'll throw it in.

Hmm, and the Treo 750 has its own forum? :\
[General Topics] lewcamino:
I agree...

I remember when XDA was a bit more... supportive about things like new forums for their long time members that switched to the latest and greatest (like we all tend to do).
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Well I can understand why they have to try to stay at the size they're at now, the servers do struggle from time to time... That's why the Omnia/Flame/etc don't have their own forum, perfectly reasonable. I just think the Treo Pro is going to be a phone that's worthy, but I'm sure they'll keep it open to consideration if they see a bigger following for it. Having the general forum clogged up with Treo Pro posts doesn't make any more sense. Who knows, maybe they do know better than I and not many people will buy into it... Only time will tell.
[General Topics] JohnB847:
Treo Pro

Why wouldn't you want a Treo forum on here? Its a great WM device. The Pro is now made by HTC. You've supported other WM-based Treos.

Let's get going! That thing will need your expert advice to tune it up!

Thanks.

Johnb847
[General Topics] ZonKnoZ:
whoa nelly!

i just tested this sweet black beauty with tomtom 6 while driving around

the wheather was horrible with heawy rain an i was driving throug really heavy streets for gps recievers

this thing is SENSITIVE

i previously owned a holux gr236 bluetooth reciever

and a loox n560

both with sirf3 chipsets

but the treo pro just beats them with a incredibly quick ttf and very good reception

only thing i noticed is that driving around for over one and a half hours the battery was down to 75%

so gps still seems to be a battery hog here

but except this the battery life is awesome

i have the iphone 3g and the blackberry bold as work phones

but after almost a week with the treo pro it is starting to become my favorite of the three with the battery runtime as the strongest point here
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
**** dude, you have a Treo Pro and a Blackberry Bold? *Drool*
[General Topics] ZonKnoZ:
well not exactly

i OWN a treo pro

the iphone and blackberry are not mine

i got them from/for work (blackberry for emails, iphone just testing as an eventual replacement)

so well i only have the tro pro

but i currently USE all three devices

i will propably stick with the blackberry as my work phone and the treo pro as my private one and give the iphone back because its a useless toy with a miserable battery runtime for me...
[General Topics] lewcamino:
I got mine today. So far it is a very nice device. Everything just works.
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
That's odd, isn't it made by HTC? :confused:
[General Topics] lewcamino:
Exactly! In this case I think Palm does a lot of quality control before they will brand and sell a device.

Seriously though;

Camera, works.

Camera lens, glass (not plastic), works.

Keyboard, works.

GPS, works.

Video, works.

Video recording, works.

Phone, works.

Touch screen, works.

Battery, TBD.

The reason I bought this was really simple. I have the 800w for work and was very impressed by how well it worked. I found that for the first time ever, I liked my work phone better than my personal phone.
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
I've always been scared of PalmOS because it's something I'm not familiar with, but the fact that this has WM6.1 is something that attracted me to it.
[General Topics] ZonKnoZ:
yeah i see ya!

i might also add where my enthusiasm about the treo pro comes from

i am using windows mobile devices for almost 10 years now

thats why i also have tons of software i am used to and i do not want to miss

maybe thats why i have no use for the iphone (besides its bad usability as an actual PHONE)

but i must say that this is the best windows mobile device i owned so far(one downside being the lack of proper 320*320 screen support in some apps)

my history with windows mobile devices so far:

some bigass monochrome ipaq i forgot the model# of

ipaq 4150 (very good device, i really regret that i sold it)

axim x51v

loox n560

xda flame

htc touch

so essentially yeah the treo pro is my first wm 6.1 device, so some improvements may come from that but the whole system makes a pretty polished/tweaked/snappy impression to me

maybe someone who used a wm6.1 smartphone might compare the treo pro on a more unbiased basis than me

but the big competitors out there all suffer from the same problem as far as i can see in reviews(yepp battery)
[General Topics] johnjtaylor:
Treo Pro Forum

Hi,

I'd like to add my voice to the request for a treo pro forum. It's the successor to the 750 and it's made by HTC - seems clear to me!

John
[General Topics] thescum:
for the purposes of adding weight, here's my vote.

and unless i;m horribly mistaken, htc manufactured the treo pro, right? so it should be included.

Mods, hear us and give us a group :)
[General Topics] MDANavymom:
I will put my vote in too. Not sure why they think we should be treated less then anybody else around here.

Couple of questions. Does anyone know why there is a lower memory available then what was in the 800w? The Pro seems to have about 60mg less.

Would be nice to be able to get a cleaned up ROM for this thing. Coming from the T-mo Wing, this thing is really snappy, but just think what it would be like with a stripped clean ROM, I have cabs to run MS Office off the SD card same for the Java and Opera Mini, would be great to see what this thing could do.

What programs are you guys using on your Pro?

I have:

QuickMenu

UL

GPSToday

WeatherPanel

TodayAgenda

Home++ with Floyd Theme

FaceContacts

SPB Insight
[General Topics] davsug:
gotta put my vote in too. HTC made it, and XDA-dev can make it so much better :-) I just got one, and I like the hardware design, but the UI is so boring. I can only hope someone can port manilla 2d or some type of touchflo over to it.
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Won't the generic Manila 2D work with it? Someone should give it a shot, it works with most WM6 devices out there
[General Topics] davsug:
I'd be happy to, but I just don't want to brick my phone the day I got it :-) is bricking it a possibility with something like Manilla? if not and a hard reset is the worst option, then I'd try it.
[General Topics] lcohen999:
I don't think the resolution will work with Manila2D...
[General Topics] lewcamino:
I think a lot of the memory is used by the "PC Setup" stuff (cause it has active sync built in). Plus it must also have configuration data for almost every carrier in the world. So it works on any network it was purchased for.

A bunch of space may also be used by languages.

I know this "extra" data could be cooked out of the ROM. At least the PC setup app.
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Naw, no possibility of a brick at all... You install CABs, you're not actually flashing a ROM or anything. A hard reset will wipe it all clean.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=398173
[General Topics] lcohen999:
Well...

I'm wrong

http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1505588&postcount=16
[General Topics] MDANavymom:
Ok, so I have a couple of questions. First what is RealVGA? Do I put it on the machine before anything else? do I use 96 or 128? Do I relaly need it? I had put it on at one point but it was after I had added software and it just messed up my today screen really bad, I ended up doing a hard reset to clear it out.

I had seen the M2D that the user at treocentral did, but he had to do alot of modifying to get it to work.
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
The only HTC phone I've ever owned is a Fuze, so other than helping you locate the files for the Manila 2D I can't help you at all past that. :\ Sorry. If you can contact that guy who got it working on his Treo Pro that'd obviously be the best bet, but whatever you do, good luck.
[General Topics] thescum:
if you wanna have more screen real estate, then yah you need realvga @ 96dpi. and at the same time be more compatible with many apps out there.

here's a sampling of my today screen. had a lot of grief with pocketbreeze and spb diary (hard resets, and sluggish performance). Its ok with today agenda 1.1 though not compatible with 1.5.

click on image to view video
[General Topics] lewcamino:
The Wiki has been updated. If you have At&T I strongly recommend taking a look.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PalmTreoPro
[General Topics] spastico:
We need a Pro Forum Please.
[General Topics] jamespaulritter:
Hello and good morning Scott. I would like to know the same thing. I was surprised to see a 750 forum but I defiantly welcomed it. I have ebayed my Titan and picked up a treo pro last week. We xda fans need a spot to discuss or Palm/HTC Treo!

Has anyone PM'd a mod to find out when its coming? I'm going to go check and see which mod has been posting in the 750 forum and PM them.
[General Topics] davsug:
ok, I'll give it a shot. I love Manilla on my Neon, so this could really make the Pro an awsome device. I'll check back with an update later.

BTW, has anyone with a Pro figured out a way to fix the well-known bluetooth bug we have? for those of you that don't know, when talking on a BT headset, if you pick up a call waiting call and either call 1 or call 2 hangs up, the bluetooth connection drops. Same thing happens if you ignore (not press any button) if another call comes in. Happens every time.
[General Topics] davsug:
ok, hard reset number 1. I installed the latest manilla build, but the screen size was way off (filled only about 75% of the screen), and it disabled the Start menu. scrolling through the tabs worked pretty smoothly, but the tabs were cut off at the bottom by the soft keys. I didn't install the HTC patch for non-HTC phones. Should I do that? I assumed not since this is made by HTC.
[General Topics] oVan:
I tried both and had the same problem. I then hard reset the TP and installed realvga 96dpi again and now I'm only using the fabulous QuickMenu app and spb diary + spb phone suite on the today screen. I miss a big overview screen like spb mobile shell's "now" screen, and perhaps someday there will be a perfect manila2d version of this.
[General Topics] davsug:
do we know if this is just a resolution/screen size problem, or something more complex. If it's just screen size/reso, I would think it should be pretty easily fixable.
[General Topics] sansnil:
Another request for a Treo Pro please - I got so much out of the 750 forum that now I've upgraded to the Pro I definitely would like the same for the new model. Thanks!
[General Topics] MDANavymom:
The problem I had with RealVGA other then it screwing up my whole today screen and plugins was it made everything in my Treo so tiny I almost couldn't read it, had to whip out the reading glasses to read...this is not how I want my screen to be.

Will continue to try and solve this problem there has to be a solution somewhere.

I did try the Throttlelauncher, but took it off, will try it again this weekend, it will require ALOT of configuring to make it work on the 320 x 320 screen, but I think it is workable, but will take time.
[General Topics] a042349:
Another XDA'er looking for a Treo Pro Forum here!

Let the cooking of XDA ROMS for the Pro begin!

-a042349
[General Topics] lcohen999:
add me to the list..if they ever ship the device to me!
[General Topics] Diem:
Another vote here. Just love the Treo Pro even using it with the basic wm6.1 it has. This is such an improvement in handling compared to the HTC tytn.
[General Topics] havok2424:
Another vote

Excellent phone, I can't believe there's not a forum for this already.
[General Topics] oms1000:
+1 for a forum please.
[General Topics] jcolon:
I am also waiting for my Pro. Forum please! Just found out there is a bug with call waiting while using bluetooth headset.
[General Topics] chakli:
xda is my fav restaurant! i love all the chefs and their cooked meals ;-)

please make a pro forum.
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Wow guys, the verdict has already been put out, asking for a forum isn't going to change their minds right away. Just discuss the Treo Pro here, like the Omnia users have been doing in their thread, and the mods will change their decision only when they see fit.
[General Topics] MDANavymom:
Has anyone got any good HomePlusPlus themes or rlToday themes? I have tried throttle launcher and today am gonna work with TodayLife and see what I can come up with. I did make a tsk using ThemeCE but noticed that if I use te 240 x 240 it tiles the theme, so i worked better using the 480 x 480. Am still searching the net for themes, if I come up with some good ones I'll post here.
[General Topics] pietje5454:
Well i can't wait for your details. I have just downloaded MN7 but it doesnt work on my Palm Treo Pro.

regards peter
[General Topics] MDANavymom:
Skyfire and Live behavior

I have been using Skyfire and I set it as my default browser but when I search for something in Live Search, the page comes up not found, if I use IE it works. It seems that Live Search does work correctly with Skyfire. Has anyone else noticed this?
[General Topics] lewcamino:
Live Search and MMS uses the "default browser" to display certain things. This is true on all Windows Mobile devices. You can still use Skyfire, just don't set it as the default browser.
[General Topics] jseeley:
I just got my treo pro yesterday, and i got a couple questions..

1.) Can someone give me the right settings for Internet and MMS?

2.) In the registry, where can i change the default web browser to Opera?

3.) Does anybody know how to turn off the press center key to unlock? I have S2U2 on it and it definitely interferes :]

4.) Has anybody got S2V to work consistently?

5.) Anybody got HTC Home running correctly? Ringtone and Profile buttons don't work

6.) and finally, has anybody found some good skins for WMP? All of my old ones do not show up because they are portrait and landscape, but not square.

I know the phone hasn't been out for no more then a week and a half, but im so excited

btw.. this screen is absolutely beautiful!!!! besides some apps looking distorted I'm in luv :]
[General Topics] jseeley:
also when ROM's start coming out, ill definitely test if anybody needs it. All this bloatware makes me sad.
[General Topics] lewcamino:
I can probably help. What provider are you using?

If I am not mistaken (or something has changed) Opera sets itself as the default browser on install. It is actually one of my greatest frustrations with opera

Come on now. I am not much for flaming but this is an easy one. Start > Settings > Keyguard. Set to "Disabled"

I just did some testing for you in my 320x320 emulator and "S2V-0.38-WM5.zip" worked properly from what I can tell.

I had not attempted to before you asked. Now I have made some quick attempts. I have not got it working just yet.

I will suggest the latest SPB Mobile Shell does work well on this device.

I don't look for skins very often so no help from me here.
[General Topics] xarope:
Question for you treo pro owners, how's the keyboard like compared to say the old treos or even the 800w? I've seen all the reviews mention unfavourably about the "jellied" keys, but in real life, how does it feel to you?
[General Topics] jseeley:
Well i went from a Tilt to this, when i opened it up. I said wow this is gonna be a problem because its so much smaller. I'm on day 2 now and im already getting used to it. I was late to my class today and it felt good to be able to text with one hand, and eat a PB&J with the other :]
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
I heard the Treo Pro's keyboard is like the Centro's, but bigger. If that's the case it'd be very easy to type on. The Centro, despite being tiny, had a very good feel to its keyboard and rarely made errors.
[General Topics] spastico:
I'm finding the Pro easier than my 750.
[General Topics] spastico:
May we please have a Pro/850 forum?
[General Topics] CrozB:
+1 Treo Pro Forum PLEASE :-)
[General Topics] eatonjb:
ditto... got one today. would love to see some 320x320 themes too..

also cant wait to hack the poo out of this thing ;)
[General Topics] Black93300ZX:
Guys, for the 10th time, the admins/mods have made the decision that there will be NO TREO PRO FORUM. There's no point in asking except clogging up this thread, keep discussing the Treo Pro here and maybe eventually it will come.
[General Topics] kbcherry:
Background info: I was a Treo 750/Tilt Hybrid user prior to the Pro being released. Mainly because I needed the Tilt for the wifi and gps. As far as the Pro keyboard, its definitely not as nice as the 750. Just doesn't feel as good. But I don't think it is having any real effect, meaning I don't seem to be making any more or less mistakes.

I want to love the Pro, but the problem is that its just a little too much HTC and not enough Palm Windows Mobile. I think they got it backwards of how it should be. But that could also be a good thing if some wizards here could start customizing the Pro with dialers, comm manager skins and custom roms. I would love to see a forum dedicated to the Pro if possible.
[General Topics] ZonKnoZ:
i must say that i got used to the treo pro keyboard so much that i deactivated the sip keyboard (software onscreen kb) completely with the registry hack so it wont bother me anymore

i am pretty happy with it and i like how palm solved some small things about it

optionkeys and such

one thing which keeps me bothering is:

i tried loads of remote control software on it but it just does not work(novii, vito etc.)

i was hoping i could use my favorite(novii) with the treo because it own it already and have profiles and backups of my original remote controns for it

but there seems to be a problem to run such software on a NON xscale processor...

did somebody find a software like novii remote that works on the treo pro?

please let me know

maybe there ale workarounds or ways to tweak software like that?

havent found something like that

the problem with novvi for example is that it wont run on the 320*320 screen

but software like that seems to be pretty rare...

the 320*320 resolution also causes massive problems with games

all games that i have do not run (correctly/playable) except nethack!

so no pocket heroes, no worms, no doom :(

hopefully there will be some updated versions out soon

or a convenient workaroung vga(not reallyvga) hack kind of software
[General Topics] eatonjb:
any idea on 320x320 Themes
[General Topics] kbcherry:
Yeah, the resolution kills Slingplayer Mobile also. Which totally sucks. I might go ahead and disable the SIP as well, thats not a bad idea.
[General Topics] ZonKnoZ:
i used this method

because nullkb did not work and this works kind of the same
[General Topics] jcolon:
This member got it working and modifyed the xml file to fit the Pro screen: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=172076&page=2

I tried to install it myself, but couldn't get it to display properly. I think i am not installing the xml file where I should, but I dare not to ask in this forum, just fearful of being flamed.
[General Topics] jcolon:
I have been trying to find the registry edit that disables the "not valid server certificate" warning you get when you send or download messages on certain POP accounts. I tried the one on the Kaiser Tweaks but it didn't work. Is anyone encountering this problem and has come up with a fix?
[General Topics] ZonKnoZ:
one thing i noticed today, is that i could not change the ringtone of the device

not that this would be important to me because i like the default ring

just wanted to check if anybody else experienced this

the sound setting i am talking about is

phone: known caller

i am using the german version of the treo pro
[General Topics] lewcamino:
I can and have changed my ringtone for all caller types. Did you try going to Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Manage [TAB]

Now click Menu > Add...

See if you can get the tone you want added there, then set it under known caller.
[General Topics] WMguy:
Mine did this too until I discovered there's a ringtone associated with Roaming. I'm always "roaming" due to a sim card issue. Did you check/change the roaming ringtone?