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[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] mohitgalaxy3:
5G has not even started properly, why people are going mad over it.

Airtel has just started 5G check in the Airtel app, as of now no device is getting 5G in Bangalore.

I have SM-G998N and have all the 5G bands unlocked still dont even see 5G signals in mobile network registration at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] sam142000:
I'm getting 5G in Gurgaon at certain locations and I'm on the latest Android13 beta.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] mohitgalaxy3:
Is it on Airtel, which band ?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] sam142000:
It's on Airtel.

Don't know which band.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] deeplyyoung:
Even I'm getting Airtel 5G in Mumbai wherever the signals are available and got nearby 364 mbps speed as well... SM-G9980, N-78 band here... Regarding Jio I think we need an OTA update, after that only might be we will get welcome offer.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Guys, disabling the ram plus feature has increased my phone's performance!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amitbhatt89:
Thanks for suggestion, I'll try it now.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Trunksleo:
Where i can buy this phone on usa? If its new its better. Which places recommend to buy used phones?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] mohitgalaxy3:
Anyone got ota for Android 13.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Nope. Not out for India yet. Has started in Europe so it should be available any day now.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
I just went ahead and Odin flashed the stable OneUI 5 update (OXM multi-CSC that DBT got) over my existing Beta3. Home_CSC, so no loss of data. Working well. Everything is working fine. No issues so far. It's only been 2 days but everything is stable. Apparently the official India release is rumoured to be in December. Didn't want to wait so long.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
actually it's officially out for INU
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Oh is it? 😂

Impatient me! I checked today morning and didn't see any update so went ahead and flashed. When was INU official released? Today afternoon?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
It's there on Samfrew...have a look
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Thanks. 👍🏻

Edit: new info.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amitbhatt89:
I got stable update today in afternoon.

I was on beta
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Rattlesnake3:16:
I received the update around 3PM.

Device has gotten more fluid after updating. Let's hope everything stays fine.

On a side note, was hoping that the Expert RAW app would enable Astrophotography mode on One UI 5 but alas, that's not case for the S21 series as of now :(
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amitbhatt89:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Does the official A13 ota bring airtel 5G support to your phones?

Or is it still showing software update pending in the Airtel app?

If anyone has any news regarding this, please share.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
This is what I'm getting.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
Comrades..pls stop fussing over 5g. It really is not worth it! I was on 5g the 1st day the device was in my hand. Looking at how my battery % was doing deep diving, I disabled 5g and have been on 4g ever since. As I'd mentioned earlier, 5G only makes sense if 1) you download/ watch a lot of 4K videos on the internet, and 2) if you use your data connection as a hotspot for other devices. In all other scenarios, 4G is more than enough!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] cyneverdie:
My S21 U, Exynos, India, on Android 12 was on:-

System Security (Samsung) - Nov, and Play System Update - Nov

Post the Official update to A 13, I am on October, and July!

Anyone else is the same?

PS: Network Monster found Jio 5g towers nearby too ..
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amitbhatt89:
Same

But when I click on it and tried to update, it is showing up to date.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
I would suggest all of you to check the back panel of your phone! Since my battery life was bad and I had extended warranty, i took my phone to the SC to have the battery changed. There, it came to mine and their notice that the back glass has popped up. According to them, the battery has bulged and it pushed the back panel up. They'll be changing it. There also seems to be a focusing issue with my phone where on the main camera when taking photos of document, only the center is in focus and the corners are blurred. I am supposed to get my phone on friday after the repair.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
What was your battery health showing? Before the replacement? My back panel was also slightly poppy a month ago. I removed it and stuck it back with B7000 glue. Battery wasn't swollen thankfully.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
I didn't check the health. I didn't even know it was bulged till the SC people told me.

In other news, extended warranty does not cover battery even if it is bulged. If screen damage like burn in or dead pixels are there, then battery will be replaced as it comes as a set or, if you pay, then also battery will be replaced as then it wont come as a set. If you have comprehensive like I do you can even damage the phone and get the battery changed after being charged deductible. I really don't understand the logic here.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] deeplyyoung:
Does anyone able to get Jio 5G welcome offer?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Yes, i got it. 5G shows up but much slower than Airtel, at least in my city. Chews up battery faster too, so I've gone back to 4G. Completely satisfied with 4G speeds for now.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amitbhatt89:
Yes, Received 5g network too. Getting around 800 mbps outside the home but inside it's poor than 4g.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] deeplyyoung:
5G sucks battery a lot, it's true. Airtel 5G I'm also using and getting satisfactory results

Thanks bro..
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Am I missing something or have we not recieved November or December patch for our phones?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Haven't received yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] deeplyyoung:
Strange, usually my device S21U SM-G9980 was getting updates way after Samsung release any updates for Indian Varient but this time we already received Dec security patch and Indian Varient got Nov... But still Samsung didn't released 'Standalone' update.. Not able to use Jio 5G (even after getting welcome offer)
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Just checked... I still haven't got it.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Me neither
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
How many of you are planning on upgrading to S23 Ultra? After last month's warranty replacement of display, battery and the camera, i dropped my phone in the pool and got water everywhere in the phone. Thanks to ADLD and ₹1600, they have changed everything including the board, display, battery, charging port, etc., Basically only thing from original phone is the back glass now. Now I am scared that this may happen again and I'll be screwed come January 25th. I am in serious confusion now regarding whether to upgrade or keep this. I don't feel much upgrade from S21 to S22 and now to S23 ultra except the spen and processor and I don't do processor intensive tasks anyway to justify an upgrade. But then too there is a strong urge to upgrade as well as i usually don't keep phones for more than 2 years. What do y'all suggest?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Your answer seems embedded in the question itself. You don't usually keep phones more than 2 years. You have a strong urge to upgrade. Basically you have made up your mind to get but want to hear it from XDA members😂

Jokes aside, phone upgrades aren't very groundbreaking anymore (look at iphones) Samsung, Asus etc are all just tweaking little things here and there to justify increasing model number by one every year. Also, software updates are better now with at least 3-4 major Android versions promised by Samsung. Any flagship can sensibly last for 4 years easily. So for regular people, there's no need to upgrade for 4-5 years, just get a battery replacement if required.

But if you're on XDA, you're not ' regular people ' anyway and these devices are like toys or jewellery. Both those category purchases are not governed by such calculated decisions.

If you have the money to buy the S23U, just get it if you want it.

Life is short. Do what makes you happy (legal stuff 😜)
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
You got me... Yes I did want to hear it from people!😅 After last month's replacement of battery, i wasn't interested in upgrading anymore as I found it useless. But now this case of water ingress is worrying me. So i can't make my mind up. Im confused between S23 and 14 Pro or even any other phone like Vivo x90 pro + (or whatever that is) as I've grown to find the UI boring.🥺
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
My advice is to go for the iPhone 14 Pro if you find OneUI boring. It's the best Android UX right now (based on my experience) and you're likely to be frustrated with any other Android skin. At least the iPhone will be a complete departure from the Android way of doing things, and in a year or two it will make you appreciate OneUI much better 😜😂

Or we'll lose you to the fruit company forever. Either way, life will get a little more interesting for you. 😀
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Well I've heeded and is probably going with the iPhone 14 Pro Max now. Let's see how it goes maybe in a few weeks to a month you'll see me popping up in S23 threads!🤣🤣🤣
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
Congratulations on your new purchase Sukrith! I hope you have a good experience and lots of happy days and large smiles with your new toy. Also wish you deep pockets and a steady inflow of cash to maintain the apple life. :p Make sure to get some kind of apple watch and airpods pro for the best eperience. And if you have a mac, even better. iPad optional.

I think it is the right time to take a detour, if you want to get away from Android for a while. The S23 series seems like more of the same, except for some processor (hopefully) and camera pixel count upgrade and you should be pretty well set with the fruit phone until the S24U is revealed.

I was itchy for a change as well, but used my cousin's iphone 14Pro for 2 days and completely gave up with the frustration that iOS was (for me) and that horrible pill cut-out. He justifies it and LOVES to keep calling it Dynamic Island... but i can't look at it without wondering about that story about the emperor's clothes. I think it's a very subjective thing. So I had to look for an android option - eliminated all phones due to software and camera experience in favour of Samsung - but their design team went to the Himalayas for a retreat for this design cycle, so it looks like we're getting the S22 Ultra with a new engine and headlights only.

Finally ended up ordering a new phone case for my trusty S21U, and deciding it was now "different" enought to use for another year. Either the S24 will be a head turner and tempt me to jump; or i'll join you in the fruit kingdom next year. :)

EIther way, many congratulations on your new toy!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Thanks man... But I've not bought it yet. Waiting for someone from UAE to come! The biggest problem like you said is the "ecosystem" i don't have that much money to spend on buying things that expensive for no reason. I'd rather buy an xm4 or xm5 so I can use it with whatever device i own and a normal smartband (mi or something) as I find expensive smart watches stupid. I'd rather save and buy an Omega or Breitling down the line. I'm buying to experience something new as I've been using Android for a long time (14 years+) which started with Donut and now in T. Used to root and do lots of crazy things in the beginning and it was an amazing experience. Roms used to be flashed continuously including Ubuntu touch, sailfish os and the starting days of MIUI while using the Nexus 5 and 6P. But then everything became complicated with software fuses, no more affordable flagships at a midrange price and OnePlus going down the drain. I feel those were the good times of Android! I genuinely wanna start afresh. Didn't have the money to buy a blackberry or windows at that time and now when I can afford them I can't buy them. Everything is stagnant at this point!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
I understand how you feel. But I have been where you are right now (although around 4 years ago) and plunged myself into the Apple ecosystem, frustrated with Android and Samsung in particular. Got an iPhone. Used it and had a large grin and some very shameless swagger for around a month or so. Then the smile faded and I couldn't figure out why I was so irritated with what was supposed to be the most popular phone in the world. Some iBoys suggested I was not happy as I was not fully utilizing the Fruit Ecosystem fully (shame on me! - as usual, I was told that it was user issue and the fruit was without any fault). So i then destroyed my wallet and got myself a MacBook Pro and an iPad. Again, smiles all around for a couple of months till I learnt the ropes and how to "adjust" myself to the kata sev. And then it was back to frustration again.

Anyhow, long story short, I learnt my lesson and quielty exited the orchard without much fanfare. Key point is, I had to learn that lesson MYSELF. If anone else had told me that the other side of the fence was not as pleasant as all the "unbiased", "creative" influencers made it sound, I wouldn't have believed them and just thought they were bitter, poor peasants with khatte angoor mentality. Only after burning my own money did I realize that the hype wasn't really worth it. The ame fruit that made tasty pies for some people was makong vinegar for me :p

To hell with the money, I would've jumped ship to Android even if I had to pay more - just to get rid of the daily frustration of using a relatively dumb and handicapped operating system (in my use case, YMMV).

But I do not regret the experience or what it taught me.

These devices are toys for a lot of us. And toys are rarely perfect, or last forever. But they are all fun for a while, at least when they're new. And then there's always a new one some time down the line :D

BTW, I have the XM5. They are a dream. Easisest recommendation for anyone looking for world class noise cancellation and supremely comfortable headphones.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Thank you for the advice on XM5s. They'll be my go to pair very soon! Whatever you faced is my concern as well but i will not go for the ecosystem unless my next phone from this is an iPhone as well and the one after that because I'm scared what will happen if i don't like it. The only major reason for this plunge is iphones tend to retain their value even after 2 years. So if i don't like it, sell this and get something else!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
If you have not purchased the XM5s yet, I'd say to wait and look at the price of XM4s. These are amazing headphones and have a bigger drive unit compared to the XM5s. The XM5s are slightly more comfortable but they are more cumbersome to handle compared with XM4...the xm4 folds into a bunch but the xm5s don't. The xm4s sound better than xm5 but the xm5s are unbeatable in comfort. I'm sure you can find xm4s for a steal now.

BTW, if you are going to listen to these using an iPhone, it would be a criminal waste! iPhones don't support high bandwidth Bluetooth transfer protocols i.e. LDAC. These headphones sound heavenly with LDAC enabled. If you are going to use these with the iphone, I'd suggest looking at the "orchard" itself for a headphone that supports hi-res audio on iphone. Else, you might as well save your money and look for any iems that support ANC and AAC codecs.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] deeplyyoung:
Same situation here as well, have purchased Iphone 3GS when it was released only outside India, have paid hell extra bucks to get it from Dubai, used for almost 2 years and then returned back to Android, then again tried to switch ios with XS Max but within 1 years fed-up and returned to Android.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] deeplyyoung:
Using XM4 since the day it launched and so far loving it..
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] enigmaamit:
You're right about the XM5 being wasted in the fruit garden. Lack of LDAC cannot be compensated for. Only good option there is to get the AP Max for double the price and double the weight.

However, as a previous owner of the XM4 and current owner of the XM5, I'd respectfully disagree about the XM4 sounding better than the XM5.

I've had the previous model for 2 years and it's positively muddy compared to the XM5. This is despite my experience with the custom eq of the Sony app for so long. The new driver is smaller but it's carbon fibre and the material makes a difference. Based on the "influencer" reviews, even i thought it was a waste upgrading to the XM5 and went to Reliance Digital just to prove it to myself. But the moment I put these on, i knew instantly that they were better sounding and much better at noise cancelling. Walked out with a big box and poorer by 24K.

I agree with you regarding the foldability thought. If you need it for travel and to hang around the neck for long times, XM4 form factor is better. But if you use it at home to drown out the rest of the family's wildly different programs blasting away on there separate screens without leaving the house, the XM5 are the clear choice!

Apologies for the off topic. Will drop this tangent on headphone discussion before someone gets upset and starts reporting the thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] amirage:
Really, I did an A-B testing with the xm4 and xm5 on the same device and the same music track. For some odd reason, the ANC in xm5 < ANC in xm4, the sound quality also had the same equation. I was doing the A-B testing at a Sony showroom. The settings were the same for both xm5 and xm4... I genuinely felt the xm4s were better than xm5s...anyhow, let's close this discussion before it gets flagged.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Finally got the iPhone 14 Pro Max and these are a few observations that I have as a new user, which you may or may not struggle with,

Notifications are a mess! You will not be able to at times make heads or tails of it coming from Android

In many notifications, there are no mark as read (eg. WhatsApp). You will have to open the message to make it read. You can reply from the notification centre though by long pressing

There's no swipe down on homescreen to bring down notification panel

It's a huge confusion to go to control centre or notification as different areas activate them

If you use Samsung internet, it's a huge challenge to use Chrome or Safari as it is very dissimilar and the gestures are not the same

AOD is a battery drain and isn't as useful as you'd expect. Better to turn it off and use tap to wake and raise to wake

Setting custom music as your ringtone is a headache

Now few things which you shouldn't be worried about,

Face ID is really awesome! Haven't had an issue with it. As soon as I take the phone it's unlocked!

The notch isn't noticable in the Pro Max when seeing videos or I haven't felt it as an obstruction

Battery is good. Even with heavy use of 11hr SOT, video calls, phone calls, YouTube, browsing with AOD and bt on (everything played through speaker) I still have 30% battery left!

I'll post more of you want as and when the days pass!
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Updates:

More annoyances are,

No swipe from delete button to delete a word easily (gboard as well)

Can't know if notifications are there or not without swiping down or looking at the app panes for badges

Can't get otps to pop up on keyboard app at times and no support for that at all on gboard

When connected to a car, music won't auto play on YouTube music

No pip in duo

But now I am almost settled and somewhat am a "power user"!

Systemwide AdBlock enabled

Double tap backside for locking screen

Automation for playing music when connected to my car (eventhough at times it doesn't work with YouTube music) and turning on low power mode to disable aod

Disabling of AOD at night using automation

Changing ringtones to custom eventhough it is 30sec long

But now I would like to say, I really don't feel much difference between android and ios personally because as it turns out I don't use most of androids features like multiwindow and stuff. But to people who use it, this will definitely be a downgrade! In my opinion, I will definitely go back to android or can even continue on iOS without any issue as I don't feel using one will force to you continue using that itself unless you invest in the eco system. My suggestion to everyone is, buy "ecosystem" products like earphones, tablets etc which can be used with any platform and not just one! My ecosystem is as below,

iPhone/Android

Yoga 6 (tab and laptop)

Buds pro (will upgrade to Sony XM4 or XM5 or Bose 700)

A good Swiss or japanese watch for people who actually don't have needs of a smartwatch (used galaxy watch active 2 and watch 4 since launch, didn't use any of the features or even replied using the watch to anyone)

But imo, iphone Pro line will definitely have a better resale value than any android and is a better investment.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Veestaai:
How is the performance and battery life on iPhone as compared to S21U?
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
Performance is good, no stuttering in the UI at all. Everything opens up fast and app installations are just amazing! Everything is done within 5secs. No downloading and then waiting for few more seconds for it to install. I don't know much about battery life because I have been charging mine from 40% to 80% to save the battery health (in case I have to sell it immediately). But 1 day I charged my phone early morning at around 7 and then used the phone the entire day, lots of calls, 1 episode of farzi, maps, uber & ola etc with BT and WiFi on completely but not connected to anything and sometime in aeroplane mode because was flying as well. At 9pm had close to 40% battery. Which I could never manage in my S21U as the idle battery drain was very high! This just stays as it is with maybe 1 to 3% going down in 7 to 8 hrs! Charging is also fast, I don't have much problem. Charging as fast or even faster than S21U with Samsung 25W charger. Daily because of this 40% charging, I at times needs to charge twice because I see a lot of videos using the inbuilt speaker but on WiFi.

To be really honest, there isn't much difference between android and iOS or I haven't used all the features of android but they were nice to have. But I will definitely go back to android next year with the S24U or Fold 5.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Veestaai:
I have just told myself that minor stutters are a feature of android. I like the iPhone because of performace and battery life. But some of the features of android stop me from switching over. They are mentioned in this video

I'm really interested to jump ship and switch to iPhone 15 Pro(not Pro max, S21U is a fairly big phone. I find 6.1" to be the perfect size).

Let me know your thoughts on the video.
[Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra] Sukrith:
I agree to everything he says in this video and you will really need to get used to it! You can't even mark WhatsApp chats as read from notification centre! That's the biggest annoyance for me. Yes Gboard is sucky at times, it doesn't let you swipe from delete button to delete last few words. Call logs not saving more than 100 contacts is driving me crazy as I got an interview call the other day and I can't find that person's number to ask them to go ahead with it! Back thing he says is an annoyance but doesn't bother me that much. No clipboard is a pain as Samsung has that edge panel for that and is so convenient! I don't do call recording so no inputs, same with call coming in. It's not that big of a deal. PIP is there in WhatsApp now but not on Duo which I use the most. Face ID doesn't need you to look at it, it always senses and I never felt oh I wish the finger print was there!

There are plus and minus in this transition. Don't think too much, buy it, use it, if you don't like it sell it and get an Android as iphones have more resale value than any android out there and will retain its value for a longer time, especially the Pro variants!