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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FOSA:
RE

Ok, here's one real issue

Did anyone manage to save the contacts to the SIM card? It says 'Mobile Error' when I tried to.

Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sonhy:
Sometimes the sensors dont work and the picture is saved in landscape mode when it should be portrait. You will just have to use an image editor like SPB Imager to manually rotate the image and save it.

Otherwise before you take a shot, rotate the phone a bit to make sure the sensors are aligned and then take your shoot.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Scorpia:
I can agree with that. I've searched for weeks and came up with nothing. That "Mobile Error" is a pain in the ass. I need to keep using my spare phone to save contacts. And I'm using an Elf, not a Raphael.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] leebo:
I've done a search for my issue but found no mention of it. There is a thread over at AT&T's forums, but very few reply's (and no fix).

I just got the AT&T Fuze last week. I believe this is the correct thread to post in, if not would someone please let me know?

I loaded several albums of mp3's onto my Fuze using an XP computer and WMP 10 to rip and convert the songs to mp3's at 256 kbs.

Occasionally, while playing these files there will be a hiccup, or fraction of a second of silence during playback. It does not seem to matter which file, and it's never at the same point in time during a song. I'm using a wired headset, not BT. It's almost as though there's a short in my headset, except I've tried two headsets and it has made no difference.

Since I have found very few posts about this issue (if there are posts about this here would someone point me in the right direction?), I assume it is not a common issue with the Fuze. If that's the case, should I exchange my unit for another? If this is a known issue with no fix, I want to return the phone b4 my 30 days are up.

I'm running the stock firmware from AT&T. Thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] leebo:
Interesting post I found today, dated Jan. 16, 2009. Check out #5:

Posted by Jack Cook on 01/16/09 in HTC

diamondFor those European users that have the HTC Touch Diamond, there is ROM update available on HTC’s European site for you to download. We can only hope that other areas of the world will soon have an upgrade available for them as well.

Improved Functions and Fixes

1. When you launch the Camera while the system is working on other programs, the preview screen may become black.

2. When playing a video, sometimes a portion of the video will be cut off a little bit.

3. Fixes Audio playback problem with the speaker. Specific issues: sometimes the music will turn off and on after 10 minutes, or there is a buzzing sound or no sound at all.

4. Fixes the problem of not being able to receive MMS when in standby mode.

5. When launching music via the Music tab on TouchFLO 3D, the sound may intermittently turn off for a second and come back on.

Sounds like my issue. I wonder if there will be a rom update for the Fuze.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] phobilicious:
Hey guys! Thats what bothers me the most actually :(

Is there yet a solution available?

For me it's that way: i get ne sms go to SMS Tab of Touch FLow then i read it and go to menu (right softbutton) and klick reply... so far so good ;)

Then i switch quickly to landscape mode because the reply box is already there but if i start typing nothing apears on screen just a few seconds later the TouchFlow landscape menu appears and my sms reply seems to be gone... Thats really anoying... can't you disable the landscape menu to appear if you slide to landscape view? that would be enough for me...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jessiethe3rd:
I have an issue that only appears when I use the hardware keyboard. The unit goes into portrait mode when I start typing and then pops back into landscape mode - it does it over and over again. Sometimes it stops... then it starts again. :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] NLS:
That's not a common issue.

Maybe something you installed?

However you seem to be the second to report this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=476055
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] killerscene14:
1. TF3D: I am having issues with tf3d locking up completely and having to disable/reenable tf3d to get it to work again or soft reset

2. Battery: About 50% of the time my battery will not last me all day, usually this is when it is connected to my computer and i am adding apps and doing some mods. I also noticed that my phone gets really hot when it is connected to my pc via usb.

Anyone else having these problems?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] phobilicious:
yeah noticed this too....

i have to try a custom rom sometime...

Sometimes my phone lasts 2-3 days, somtimes not only a day.

Today e.g. i was snowboarding with lots of cell changes and it is still at 85%

The day befor yesterday i was just driving home from work (30 min) and the battery was at 74%.

Don't have a clue. Not even close :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] phobilicious:
If anyone notices the same thing with his standard rom, try custom roms like ROMeOS. They are smokin when it comes to battery life. OK one must say, if you use it constantly, the battery does not last very long, but if you just stay on standby (and dont supiditly let the Task manager run with CPU Tab in background like i sometimes do) then the battery lasts really long. Did not test it yet and i am sure it doesn't compete with my Nokia 6300 businessphone, but it's really long enough ;) (aprox. 4-5 days)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] novaIS350:
Not sure if anyone mentioned the loose screen/slider issue. I've been doing some searches, apparently its a big problem with the Fuze. Some people are reporting rock solid sliders, others have the same wobbly/loose slider screen like me. It's annoying as hell.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] phobilicious:
I have also noticed that the slider makes very loose noise when sliding open.

I don't know if that's what you mean but it makes me go crazy.

The only thing that doesn't bother me is that the screen, when open, is also fix and not "wobbly" like you mentioned, so thats not a huge but an anoying problem :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gelavalon:
TouchPro issues

I have had the first problem too. In addition to the overnight charge, my phone will not respond after a long phone call. It acts as if it turned off. It has taken several soft resets to get it to turn back on. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Advertisting/marketing copy does not a fact make. You are not right, the buttons are not touch sensitive in the sense you are talking about. Of course they do need to be touched for them to work though.

Someone needs to do a teardown the device then I could put this to bed once and for all.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mike freegan:
Not to fan the flames, BUT. I haven't yet touched a daimond or raphael, but I have been reading about the raphael for months, and almost every website described them as touch sensitive. I was shocked to see a video where they appeared tactile. I'm sure the earlier ones were touch only.

I'm glad they're tactile as I prefer tactile feedback on hardware buttons.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
You can't put it to bed :rolleyes: because they are touch-sensitive. not in the sense of being tactile. But in the sense of being pressure buttons. Oh and btw. If I go with the theory that it's a single glass panel that works, it wouldn't work. Because if you push in the panel on one side, the whole panel would move thus causing instability. This would kill the design because the glass would pop out of the corner every time on the opposite end, unless it's some kind of miracle bending futuristic glass which I highly doubt. So I'll stick to my theory that they're touch sensitive otherwise each button would have a separate space and it wouldn't be one single glass panel.

Kraize
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Want to point me to that video? Because no sane person would make 4 tactile buttons under the same 1 panel because of common physics. The screen would be pushed in at one corner and would tilt up on the other corner. Or if HTC glued it enough it wouldn't for the first month or so and then start to come out.

EDIT: I attached a horrible mspaint rendering if you didn't get what I meant.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
This no longer seems to be an issues thread
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Actually tactile vs pressure sensitive is a big issue for me and a dealbreaker. I would feel ripped off if it is advertised as pressure sensitive and is really tactile as some say.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mike freegan:
Man, people on here who own the device are telling you that they push until they click!

I would be pleasently surprised if they're tactile, but I understand why some people may be annoyed as they are advertised as touch sensitive.

I'm pretty sure you can hear it here at 7 seconds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pZdVcky0lE

Also, it looks to me like the screen and buttons are not covered by one piece of plexiglass.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
Definitely clicks at 7 secs
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Right, you've really highlighted your own ignorance here. The bottom section of the touch pro and the diamond are NOT MADE OF GLASS. It's a flexible material (I'm assuming some kind of plastic). The mechanical switches are set under this flexible sheet and when you PRESS the various areas (ie. Home/Back/Call/End/Up/Down/Left/Right) this sheet deforms in the area you are pressing allowing the mechanical switch/button to be operated.

I don't think you could possibly have used either device if you seriously think what you are saying is correct.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] h4waii:
@Kraize92;

You are a clown of the biggest magnitude. They are physical buttons that require contact pads to...make contact to registry a key press.

Your theory is 100% incorrect, idiotic and your ignorance is even worse. Have you ever heard of acrylic glass? There are numerous materials that can be used for this that will allow enough flex for 2 contact points to meet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
An easy test would be to turn off the device, take out the battery, and see if it still "clicks". That way it would eliminate the possibility of any electronically created feedback.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kempas:
There is a Touch Pro in front of me and the front buttons are definately buttons.

The top material flexes in the four corner positions in order to depress the dome switch underneath.

They are physical, mechanical switches. END OF STORY...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
....I'll guess I'll go straight to disassembling the Touch Pro and we'll find out and I think my ignorance/knowledge is plenty saying I'm only 15 =/ You guys flame so much. I see it as a pressure sensitive button. I can't beleive anything anyone says until I see it physically. So I guess I'll pry open a test model when I get my hands on one. No actually never heard of acryilc glass =/ Maybe the test model is just different....but I'm still prying it open when I can.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
I agree totally Kempas, mine's the same. Seeing as Kraize is in America maybe it's one of the differences between the US and European versions?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Hmm. No. HTC isn't stupid enough to change that. When I get a real unit I'll test it out. As of now, I have a un-released test unit. Not the pre-release. A test unit. Maybe you people just think I'm stupid or whatever, but the phone that I had a couple minutes ago =/ was the same material as the touchscreen glass. It was pressure sensitive. I'll get a current unit and see. You guys call it ignorance, but maybe it's just different. It's like telling a kaiser user that the housing is gray and he has a silver housing and you all flame at him because you think it's totally impossible..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kempas:
It is the same material as covering the main screen except it requires a force to deform/bend that material enough to depress a mechanical and physical switch beneath that material.

If you are referring to that action as 'touch sensitive' then yes, can you just lightly press your finger over the buttons and they react, no - and they wont unless you depress the plastic enough to likewise depress the switch (possibly a mini dome contact) beneath.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
So I'm guessing then the touch pro is very scratch attractive then if it's plastic.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] trinode:
Hopefully this will settle the arguement...

download the tool and see.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416334

post 2 onwards

(NavDbgTool.exe)

- Anthony
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
And see what? Sorry. I read the thread and I don't get why you recommended that. Maybe I missed something?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
Looks like it both - touch sensitive AND has switches ???
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bxsteez:
I wish i could remember where i saw it but one of these videos or reviews spefically said that from the look of the device you would think these buttons are touch sensitive but they actually have tactile feedback. I can't find it though.. :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
Following links in that thread, there is the Diamond manual. It appears it may be able to be programmed for multi-touch in the lower part, but there are switches as well
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Oh. I guess being sick just made me stupid/ignorant today.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Right, I can't see an Issues list for this device yet so I'll start one:

1. A couple of times now, I've left my phone to charge overnight and woke up to an unresponsive device. Power button does nothing, screen is off and only way to get it device back up and running is to poke the soft-reset button OR remove and reinsert the battery.

Never had this happen, weird... Possibly defective? Not sure.

2. Unresponsive buttons: every now and then the "right" button of the D-Pad does nothing, then suddenly it will start working again, same with the "Back" button though much more infrequent/noticable than the D-Pad issue I've experienced.

Once again, never had it happen... :\
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Really? As I sit here, pushing in my send/end/home/back/center/right/left/up/down buttons, I seem to think you're wrong. You can push them in, and they click, like a button. Sorry, but unless you're holding the device in your hand, you can't say a word about things like this. To use the D-pad and send/end/home/back keys, you must press them down. For the camera focus, yes, the center button requires less pressure... Then a full click takes the picture. PLEASE don't talk out of ignorance, it's posts like this that confuse new users and make them ask more questions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
No one cares what your little link says, I'm holding the phone in my hands right now. If I simply TAP the d-pad or TAP the call end key it does no action whatsoever, I must press down until they click. Just shut up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Just recorded a video to put this to bed, where 15 year olds should be at this time anyways.

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/The300ZX/?action=view&current=MVI_0251.flv
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] briggs81:
Not glass, but the cruise does it just fine, with one sheet of material for all 4 hard buttons.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bxsteez:
Nice!! I was waiting for someone to do that lol..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] neva dinova:
this may have been covered somewhere already but how is video playback on this device
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Stunning, the screen is smaller than the iPhone but the resolution makes up for it. I tested SlingBox tonight, and on 3G and wifi it's smooth as butter both ways. Also, the slingbox was located in west coast canada, while i'm located east coast US, so it's as far away as it gets... And neither of us have an amazing connection.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ekerbuddyeker:
this is the worst 'issues' thread i have read in a long time. its like the early days of treoCentral. The 'issues' here seem to be personal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
I'm terribly insecure with my phone knowledge, please recommend a counselor

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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ekerbuddyeker:
i suggest you go back to a Palm V. Actually that was a great device.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] trinode:
That the lower part of the device is touch sensitive, as well as has buttons.

HTC have never been known to include hardware and not enable it have they?

GPS on one handset wasn't enabled....

kaiser has 3d hardware, but that's not enabled...

The diagnostic software lets you test the touch area, and see that the phone knows where your fingers are, even if it's not programmed to do anything about it unless pressed (and pressing the button switches below).

Familiar the iPod click wheel? That's touch sensitive AND hardware buttons, the two are NOT mutually exclusive.

I'll give it a go on tuesday or wednesday when it arrives and prove it either way
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rb14:
And let's get back on-topic shall we? If you want to discuss your buttons' touchiness, go and do it somewhere else.

I don't like that if I use the letters popping out of an envelope to view my emails, they're not marked as read. I actually have to press each "letter" and bring it up as an email to alter the read status. Worse, there's no way to see which emails are unread unless I view the whole of my Inbox.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thianlim:
This may be interesting. Am I correct when i say the D-Pad is part of the home, back, end and send buttons? So when you would press left, right, up, or down you might press these buttons as well. So maybe the phone knows you are pressing the D-Pad buttons because it knows where your finger is located? This is pretty cool if this is the case, because I was wondering how you could press these D-Pad buttons, or does the surface of these buttons just flex enough for it to not activate the home buttons etc. and have individual hardware switches for the D-Pad?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Don't tap the envelope, tap inbox on the bottom left... When it shows your whole inbox click to highlight the first message and drag down, highlights many messages at a time... Then select Mark as Read. Nice and easy, you can mark your entire inbox if you like.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rb14:
Yeah, thanks for that, I knew about it anyway. The annoying bit is that when I'm using the "letters popping out of the envelope" to scroll through emails, I am actually reading them. I just wish the TouchPro would recognise that fact and change the little green number which denotes that I haven't read them.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Right,

regarding issue

1. It hasn't happened again, wondering if it was "one of those things".

2. Regarding this button issue I was experiencing. I'm starting to think there isn't an issue and more that I'm just pushing in slightly the wrong place when my presses dont register.

Also regardin this topic going off thread, i do accept some responsibilty for that but I cannot remain silent in the face of blatant ignorance.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Well, I bet you I have a problem that no other Touch Pro owner in the world has.

The Push To Talk button.

****ty location, right under the volume rocker, I push it all the time.

And when I do... "Charges will apply. Initialize push to talk?" Yes/No

It's $9.99 a month, I don't want it, I want it to GO AWAY but even looking through the registry I don't see anything I can do to get rid of it. Found the entry in the registry, changed a few 1's to 0's (kidding but not really)... Still nothin.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
That is annoying. Might be useful if you could remap it a function you might actually use?!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Exactly... Took me a while to realize I was the only one with a PTT button, I went into the Diamond section asking people how to remap it and they thought I was crazy... "Umm, the Diamond DOESN'T HAVE a 'push to talk' button..."
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rb14:
I've never seen a topic go off-thread before. :eek:

This thread should henceforth stay on-topic.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thebiscuitboy:
Is there anyway you disable the phone lock coming in when you're on a call. I'm happy for this to happen with the device isn't being used, however it would be great if it wouldn't cut in when the phone is in use.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] thebiscuitboy:
Final issue for today, does anybody know how to hide the sim contacts ? I've tried adv. config 3, and regedit but no joy :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] graham.hughes:
Mine has stopped working twice. Coming out of stand-by, the screen is blank and nothing happens. Have to soft-reset to get it working again.

At least the second time (and, I think, the first) I took it out of stand-by by opening the slider. I haven't done this since, and it's been fine.

My "back" button is sticky. The plastic catches slightly on the bottom of the screen.

The two parts of the keypad that are touch sensitive (the zoom wheel and the dpad centre) (yes, the dpad centre clicks, but is seems to have a touch sense too, which the camera uses if you pick the "touch and press" option) are a bit pants.

(The build quality in general of the keypad area is shabby, and not representative of the rest of the device, which in general seems well made.)

I copied some files to the SD card using the "USB-Drive" mode. Most of them were corrupted. I re-copied them using ActiveSync, and it worked fine. I haven't investigated further. I can't believe this never works. I have USB1 on my laptop (not 2). This shouldn't matter, but maybe it was only tested with 2?

The version of TCPMP I was using on my Prophet just crashes horribly on the Touch Pro. Would appreciate it if someone can point me in the direction of a version that works.

Trying to install the command prompt seems to be a *really* bad idea.

Since this is (or was) an issues thread, I'll skip the many things I *do* like about it. Just to say, I'm not sending it back. (And, the screen is FANTASTIC!!!)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
This version of TCPMP works. Thanks to our moderator, Mr. Vanx for pointing it out to me!

You might be interested in reading this thread if you're going to be playing lots of videos on your pro!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
With regards to the coming out of standby, I have had that exact issue a couple of times, but only when the device had been on charge.

I also agree about the slightly flakey build quality of the keypad area I would have to agree. Is the centre button of your D-Pad aligned 100% accurruately with the circular markings around it? Mine is a bit off centre. Again in this area the direction buttons of the d-pad are also a bit picky about where they are pressed as if the sensors/switches underneath are not 100% lined up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Kraize:
Omgawd. You guys suck =/ I said I was wrong and apologized for my ignorance and you continue to bash and flame >.> very nice of all of you. And I would think you can also map the PPT button the same way as it was done for the AT&T tilt. Why don't you try it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] graham.hughes:
ukdj78: thank you, that works perfectly!

Syphon Filter: my dpads centre is fine as a switch, just the touch sense is flakey to the point of uselessness (or I just dont't have the knack yet). I have similar problems as you ddscribe with the direction keys, but I'm getting used to it. I think the smooth surface with no defined buttons makes it hard to know where to press and, as you say, you have to be fairly accurate.