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[Fire TV General] dieg00:
Thanks for the launcher @SweenWolf, although in the MAX it takes more than a minute to start (I imagine it is a thing of Amazon and FireOS 7), since I tried it in a 4k in FireOS 6 and it started very well and fast.

The Amazon launcher does not have a name, more than 80% of the home screen is advertising, chaotic at best, poorly organized .....

It reminds me of the first Chinese TV boxes of years ago, how bad the KFTV launcher is, and it is a shame since the FIRE works well although these people from AMAZON lock android to more than they can and on top of that they make it difficult for their users with something as basic as changing a launcher to merge into advertising.

Greetings and thanks for the launcher
[Fire TV General] seacamel:
Just installed the launcher 1.1.3 on my 4k max (7.2.5.5) and me too experience slow start up compared to my Lite (7.2.4.2) and LM 1.1.0

Cheers and thanks
[Fire TV General] kholdstayr:
I have a really dumb question. I checked the main post here and downloaded and set up the FOS launcher manager. But now I'm not sure where to download the actual Wolf Launcher APK from? I've found it available on other sites online, but I wanted to know where the "official" source for the APK is? I'm assuming it is in this thread somewhere but I think I'm too dumb to find it. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
https://xdaforums.com/t/app-firetv-...e-launcher-without-root.4176349/post-85358357

The MD5 Hash for Wolf Launcher 1.0.9 (final version):

70597fb37712c7ea824adedb35f0a761

In short, there was a complaint that it was a mod of ATV Launcher. Wolf removed the link and discontinued development.

Wolf still maintains the Launcher Manager.
[Fire TV General] kholdstayr:
Thanks for the info. I have another dumb question then. Where could I find the official ATV Launcher download site? Thank you.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Google Play Store. There is no official site for the app. The developer's site is http://dstudio.ca
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
@Nathaniel9 and @dieg00 translated the app for German and Spanish language, if anyone else wants to translate then an XML is attached below, download the zip and extract the XML, modify it and post it here along with Language Name, i will add them in next release.
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
@SweenWolf

if i want to update to 1.1.4 (now i have 1.1.3), how can i do?

1) disable custom wolf launcher

2) update to 1.14.

3) renable wolf lancher

or

1) update with custom lancher enable?
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
Update with custom launcher enabled
[Fire TV General] Nathaniel9:
The problem will be resolved with a system component update.
[Fire TV General] Razkizil:
Great stuff, is there a way to disable updates on toshiba fire tv? 7.2.6.8

Silk keeps coming back with an update.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
You can disable system updates by using the update blocker posted in the list of apps on the OP of this thread.

That won't block app store updates, because presumably you still want your apps to get updates?

If you disable Silk Browser, it won't get updated. You can use the FireOS7 debloat tool to disable that package. The debloat tool is one of Wolf's tools, but I think you have to get it from TechDoc's site.

TDUK FireOS7 Debloat Toolbox | TechDoctorUK

www.techdoctoruk.com

I'm not sure if the debloat tool was updated to include Silk, if not you might have to do it manually via ADB. You can get the Silk package name for ADB like so:

How to find the Package Name of any Amazon Fire TV app — Installed or not

The package name of an app or APK file is a unique name that identifies the app. For various reasons, it's sometimes necessary to determine the package name of a Fire TV app. Here are several methods to quickly and easily determine the package name of any Fire TV or Firestick app.

www.aftvnews.com

I believe the command is:

pm disable-user 'package-name'
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
Silk Browser is = com.amazon.cloud9 I think I was not into FireOS7 debloat tool .

the last three services I put them in FireOS7 debloat tool . In case someone serves.View attachment 5503257
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
How can I do this?
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
@SweenWolf can you add :

- a tool to verify if exist an update and install them inside the same app?

- write the version installed into launcher manager "footer"?
[Fire TV General] Nathaniel9:
System component updates appear almost daily and sometimes even several times in a row. Simply check for updates manually. My Fire TV Section and Info.
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
I checked five minutes ago and the start up is slow if I use launcher manager into 4k max
[Fire TV General] Nathaniel9:
It can take a while. But that's how it worked with the Fire TV Stick 4K back then. I also have the 4K Stick Max. You just have to be patient.
[Fire TV General] Razkizil:
My problem is with toshiba firetv with cubes And FS it works. On fire tv says those 2 packages OTA are protected. Since its the tv itself not sure if its even a good idea to mess with it :)

Yes i did manually on my fire cubes, btw its not in debloat v7 is diego saying he can add it if people needs it?
[Fire TV General] BunkerBert:
hi. on fireos 5.2.8.4. i cant disable the stock launcher.

ive installed leanback, launcher mananger and launchx but when i press home the stock launcher is displayed.

any idas?
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
Hello, I put it in for my use, I do not like to get into the work of others without their permision @SweenWolf , if you ask, I will enter it, it is to put a few lines without more, or if you give me your permission I will upload it modified.

com.amazon.shoptv.firetv.client

com.amazon.cloud9

com.imdb.livingroom.firetv "and" com.amazon.imdb.tv.android.app

------ THI IS IMDB in 4k MAX-------

Greetings.
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
i added update function into lm way back but then i removed it, someone was spectical that i was sending something on the internet.

Added version info into lm 1.1.5 (added into main screen but thinking of puting in end of the list on the right)

It can only be fixed with Amazon system update, if they decide to fix it.

i have no idea it there are other apps present for OTA on your TV. may have to look into system image for that.

FireOS 5 has removed some functions which causes LM to not work. I was thinking of adding another method to the LM for that (without 5 second delay, i will work on it when I'm free. No need to disable anything also, But i think amazon will patch that also. but that may work on FireOS 5,6,7)

I have made some changes to debloat toolbox, Now shows icons as well as names of apps, thinking of listing all apps for advanced users, and i'm going to merge Debloat Toolbox of FireOS 6 and 7.
[Fire TV General] BunkerBert:
thank you for your fast reply :)

im looking forwart
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
I hope I'm wrong! , but I don't think Amazon has much interest in fixing the launch of the launcher.

I sent this message to the forum and feedback emails.

If not many people complain, I don't think they will pay any attention, but my opinion is good about it.

TRANSLATION:

Launcher Fire TV Stick 4K Max KFTV

Hello everyone, the first thing to say is that the MAX works fine, but there are things that I don't like! . In version 7.2.5.5 if you change the KFTV launcher for any other it takes 2 minutes to start (something that is non-smokable).

I do not like the Amazon KFTV launcher at all, it is full of advertising everywhere, it seems chaotic and very impractical, it seems essential to be able to use another launcher !.

I do not understand very well why Amazon does this, many of us do not like its launcher and that less than being able to use in android = FIREOS the launcher that we want without delays of 2 minutes when starting.

The User is the one who has paid for the device and uses it and it is not asking too much in 4k with FIREOS 6 (some time ago) does not happen since I have tried it.

Greetings and I hope they fix this soon as it is very unpleasant.

Greetings and thank you.

Fire TV Stick 4K MaxView attachment 5504447
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Lots of updates on the OP, much appreciated! :)

Launcher Manager 1.1.5

Update Blocker 1.3

Debloat Toolbox (FireOS6 & OS7)

@SweenWolf It would be helpful if you added a release date for LM in the changelog on the OP. I think seeing the dates make updates easier to spot.

@dieg00 I admire your optimism :D. The ads on the Amazon Launcher help subsidize the cost of the Fire Sticks, I think they sell them at a loss like the Echos. It's better if the FireTV team at Amazon doesn't think about Launcher Manager, any changes they make will not be in it's favor.
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
Well, it also helps to pay for all the data that they subtract from the products of the Amazon line and I am not so clear that they sell at a loss, the Chinese tvboxes do not lose money they give you more hardware but less certifications that are not free, so I do not have Of course they lose money counting that fire sticks are manufactured by TCL.and most importantly, you pay for them.

My purpose for this new year is to be more optimistic (and naive) :D.

Greetings
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
In case someone helps you with OnBootAppStarter you can make another launcher start, in LM the amazon launcher has to be as default, and in OnBootAppStarter select the launcher.

That is if you have to get used to not using the HOME button, and using the BACK button.

It is not the best solution but better than waiting 2 minutes.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
I can't say for certain, but considering this article about Amazon Echos, I strongly suspect the same is true about Fire Sticks:

Sonos CEO says Amazon is breaking the law by selling Echo smart speakers below cost

Patrick Spence called Echo discounts "predatory pricing" and said his company was working on future Ikea products.

www.protocol.com

Basically Amazon says they sell Echos below cost when they are on sale, which is every couple weeks lol. $35 for a 4k Max seems a

bit cheap for those specs. The Lite Fire Stick goes on sale for $18 sometimes. This is in the US though. They cost a lot more in countries with high import taxes.
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
Have you ever heard a CEO of any company who with his statements did not make or try to make a publicity campaign that was not beneficial for his company?

That's the job of a CEO.

The only way to know the real price is to take the TCL sheet and count the quantity that TCL manufactures, which will be an outrage is not the same as manufacturing 1,000 to 1,000,000 an hour of the final cost of the product.

The rest is speculation.

In my country I bought it for 38 euros for that price it is fine, for 64 euros the normal price is very expensive for what it offers.

Greetings.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
He was just responding to Jeff Bezos. Bezos went to Captial Hill and was asked by Rep. Jamie Raskin whether Amazon priced the Echo speaker below cost. "Not its list price, but it's often on promotion," Bezos responded, adding: "And sometimes when it's on promotion, it may be below cost, yes."

Other Amazon information indicates that in 2018, Echos were being sold at a lose of $5 per device, and that by 2028 they hope to sell Echos at a profit of $2 a device.

Amazon is reportedly spending billions of dollars to try to keep people from getting bored with Alexa

Some years, up to 25% of users weren't active with Alexa devices by the second week, while others found half the features they'd ever use in three hours, per Bloomberg.

www.businessinsider.com

Amazon does this so that they can dominate the smart home speaker market. It's similarly speculated that Amazon is selling Sticks extremely cheap (likely below cost) to chip away at Roku's share of the streaming device market. And they have made significant gains on Roku in recent years.

Advertising and data collection is Amazon's real business, this is why the Amazon launcher looks like it does.
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
We do not think the same, the business is the product and the sub-business is the collection of data and advertising.

I return to the same thing, the only thing that matters is the price at which TCL manufactures the MAX unit for Amazon, the rest is insignificant, whoever says it says it, (it is the one I have and the product that I can think of, so is and how it works).

Articles, interviews etc are advertising campaigns themselves.

No company is ever going to tell you the whole truth. As is logical and normal.

The question is that for 38 E I see it well, as long as they do not get to touch their noses with something as basic for Android as changing a launcher (fireos is Android dismembered), and in this I think we all had to be able to put the launcher that we would like as we do with any Android.

Greetings.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
That wasnt advertising lol. Jeff Bezos was testifying under oath in front of Congress. It would be like lying in a court room. Jeff said Amazon sells Echos below cost. Below cost means, for less than what Amazon spends to make the device. For years Amazon has been losing money on the sales of Echo devices themselves.

I agree that I don't have any statements from Bezos under oath about Fire Sticks. But this sort of business practice is quite common in Silicon Valley generally, and frequently talked about.
[Fire TV General] dieg00:
Jeff Bezos is the only one who always tells the truth under oath, he will say what he is interested in saying like everyone else, Mark Zuckerberg, etc, etc.

We are not going to convince either of the two .

I settle the issue here and everyone who thinks as he wants, as he has to be.

Greetings and a pleasure to talk @Finnzz.
[Fire TV General] silviabcn:
Please buy fire stick 4 HD, install launcher wolf and can't see widgets. Pick widget on click there is no widget to select. Is it possible to fix this?
[Fire TV General] Tejas tedi:
Now with latest os update fs lite is also booting very slow compared to last os version.

They fixed the slow boot in lite 2 or 3 updates back and now added it back.
[Fire TV General] silviabcn:
I can't see the widgets. How to solve this my version is fire os 6.2.8.1
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Unfortunately widgets are only possible on FireOS7

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-firetv-...e-launcher-without-root.4176349/post-85311135
[Fire TV General] Razkizil:
İs there an adb command to allow some apss like kill all task app? Those apps ask gor a permıssıon that ıs only avaılable via cell phpne settings. Like allow app to display over or somethıng along that line
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Have you tried Fast Task Killer? That seems to be a popular one

Fast Task Killer for Android - APK Download

Download Fast Task Killer apk 3.1.0 for Android. Just one tap the app icon to instantly release memory.

m.apkpure.com
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
@SweenWolf I'm not sure what others think, but I feel like Launcher Manager and Update Blocker are related apps.

Blocking Amazon system updates is the best way to make sure Launcher Manager keeps working. So combining an upgrade blocker toggle into Launcher Manager makes sense.
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
Yeah you are right, I think i should add the option in launcher manager for quick block/unblock.

I was also thinking of adding what you wanted for long time, sorry for delay but its going to be delayed a bit more further, I'm not getting that much free time to do that.
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
Amazon handles permissions not like a regular android so on amazon you need special permission to kill apps, and need to interface some internal api. But you can kill apps using adb shell by using activity manager

adb shell am kill package

adb is the binary

shell is used to connect to adb shell

am is activity manager

kill is used to kill the package or app

here package can be any app like com.wolf.lm
[Fire TV General] Razkizil:
Thanks for the answer @FInzZ yeah i use that. I guess my bad i have to be more specıfıc.

Some apps won't run on firestıck if draw over other app ıs not allowed . So was wondering if there was a command.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
This is the ADB command to give overdraw permissions in Android. I don't know if FireOS still allows it.

pm grant <package-name-here> android.permission.SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW
[Fire TV General] Razkizil:
Goal: close all backround apps ( taskiller inly frees ram app still open)

Example app : KillApps . Requests permission see picture.

I tried below commands ..but i think i got the service name wrong. Attached 2nd pic of running services on android for this app.

pm grant com.tafayor.killall android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS

settings put secure enabled_accessibility_services packagname/servicename
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
You should know its a FireTV thread, you should also know that the app you are using requires Accessibility Services ( to find windows contents and click on it) which are now limited to system apps only, so this app will NEVER work
[Fire TV General] vortex0221:
Can someone please share the Launcher manager link for FOS5 v1.0.6. I'm trying to install it on FireTv2 version 5.2.8 The link in header is broken.
[Fire TV General] Razkizil:
Ok ran the latest 6and 7 debloater and i get PLEASE WAİT changing app status..like this since 5mins
[Fire TV General] bloot:
I'm experiencing slow boot times since a couple of days so I guess Amazon did push an update to my firestick, anyone else? Tried with latest LM 1.1.5 too.
[Fire TV General] glops:
I have 2 Fire TV Stick one with Fire OS version 7.2.4.2 (PS7242/2907) normal startup but the other with Fire OS version 7.2.4.2 (PS7242/3515) I have the same startup problem it takes wait almost 2 minutes to start and in addition the Update Blocker app no longer works
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
That's bad news if that's the case.

What update blocker and version are you using?

After the block is applied and you hit the Amazon update button in the settings, do you get an error, or does it still search?

Are you able to manually disable updates via ADB?
[Fire TV General] Tech0308:
Just noticed something interesting, I have my resolution set to a 4:3 aspect ratio so the boot animation only occupies the top half and with the latest update for FS lite and delayed bootup, I can see the launcher is ready ages before the boot animation stops looping. Makes me wonder what it's waiting if it's already loaded everything behind the boot animation. Adb logcat didn't reveal anything interesting I could see but probably must be something
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
I'm not going to update this on the Main Post right now, I'll upload the final version after update blocker is fixed (if it cannot be fixed i will remove it). This version will not have all of the translations (anyone interested can send the translation in pm).

About shell commands in LM see this video.

i was going to add the direct shortcut to the commands themselves but that will require me editing the launcher once again, which i will not do without him. so you can access the adb list page by creating the shortcut.

on boot it will only execute the commands which are on the Boot execution list (see instructions on the video).

Personally I have never installed a version with long boot time. (I use patched roms with accessibility) thats why i never looked into it.

but i know it must be looking something in the stock launcher causing a long boot time.

Amazon fixes this on FireOS 6 but not on 7 (I don't know if its a but or it was intentional)

redownload the app, issue is fixed.

Can only be fixed by amazon (or can be fixed by other devs depending on the issue which will require lot of time)

About Update Blocker (I will have to look into it if i got time, for which i also need the latest ROMS for FireOS 6 & 7), or if any devs find out another app responsible for OTA i will add that to the uodate blocker.

and tell me more about the issue, is it not disabling the apps or is it still downloading updates after blocking updates.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Thank you, I'm loving the adbshell addition! Could you add the option run an ADB command on a remote device? I'd like to add some ADB commands to make calls on my TVs OS/Menu, which my Cube is plugged into.

Making and editing local ADB commands is all working on FireOS7.

The shortcut creation doesnt work with FireOS7 though. I've been trying to find an app that can make shortcuts in FireOS7, and I did find one recently called "Activity Launcher" that works. I'm not sure if you can make use of the same method?

GitHub - butzist/ActivityLauncher: Activity launcher creates shortcuts for any installed app and hidden activities to launch them with ease

Activity launcher creates shortcuts for any installed app and hidden activities to launch them with ease - butzist/ActivityLauncher

github.com

I'm not sure if it might even be possible to use Activity Launcher to make shortcuts for Launcher managers ADB commands?

EDIT: I tried a newer version of 'Shortcut Maker' on the Cube and it works too now (not sure if there was an OS7 or app change). It's got a lot of options, I'll see if I can figure out a way to get it to work with remote ADB Shell.
[Fire TV General] bloot:
Many thanks! Thing is slow booting only happens when a custom launcher is enabled in LM, it does not happen on stock amazon launcher, I guess the update they pushed made this because last week it didn't happen.

In my case update blocker does nothing when pressing disable system updates I get a screen with "amazon os updates status active", no error either.
[Fire TV General] John123a:
There's a way to make LM also redirects the TV Guide button to another application?
[Fire TV General] Newmanl:
Trying this on my Android TV thank you.
[Fire TV General] John123a:
[PT-BR] Update: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hazIurcv09pagKxOvXEJfEBVVe1Vym6s/view?usp=sharing
[Fire TV General] Jerri1240:
Trying to update to the latest launcher from 1.1.3 and keep getting app not installed error.

Anyone advise on how to get it installed?
[Fire TV General] Newmanl:
So last night I was able to install Google TV :) but i'm experience a problem with loading recommendations within the home screen, I looked through the Internet and people says it's because Google TV it's no avaliable yet in Latin America, so in order to get it work I need to use a VPN, does someone knows a *free* VPN for Android TV?
[Fire TV General] dikodahan:
Proton VPN
[Fire TV General] Nathaniel9:
Caution: This is an APK file (package name com.quality.plastic - no app name) and not an XML file.
[Fire TV General] John123a:
it's an xml file, the apk you downloaded must be an ad from the site, I don't know why but my attached file is not showing up.

EDIT: now it's on gdrive
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
You can attach the file directly to your post like this if you zip it. @John123a

Uninstall 1.1.3 first then install 1.1.5.

If you got your 1.1.3 from some other site, it might be signed by someone else than SweenWolf, causing an error when upgrading.

What version of FireOS are you on? It would be good to know when the change to updates was made.

One temporary solution to the slow boot may be to use the ADB command feature in v1.1.6 to make one command to disable Wolf launcher, followed by shutdown. And a second command to re-enable Wolf launcher on boot. This is assuming that Wolf Launcher gets re-enabled after the system checks that are causing the slow boot.
[Fire TV General] Jerri1240:
Thanks.

Definitely downloaded from here. Sadly now I’ve uninstalled 1.1.3 and can’t install 1.1.5. Same error. App not installed.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
What device, and FireOS version? How are you getting the APK onto the device?

I use Easy Fire Tools from the play store to install APKs from my phone remotely on to my Cube. It's not necessary, but it might simplify things.
[Fire TV General] Jerri1240:
FireCube (2nd gen), FireOS 7.2.4.2.

I transfer the file to my nas and access that via solid explorer on the FireCube. Same as I’ve always done.