[Fire TV General] soulryuu:
@Finnzz Just wanted to contribute some info about the weird thing with LM 1.1.8 old method working and then not working later. I'm in a similar situation, but the context seems to be a bit different. I apologize in advance if this is too wordy - I just want to provide as much context as possible

- Purchased a Fire Stick 4K Max (Gen 2, karat) in Late Nov 2023. Not sure what version shipped with, but I wasn't able to interrupt the update for the initial setup. I assume it ended up on 8.1.0.1 (explanation below).

- Installed Debloat Toolbox and disabled a few things, but I don't remember what. I do know I didn't touch many Amazon apps with it since there was that post about potentially bricking it with disabling apps.

- I remember attempting to use disable-user on some Amazon things, but I think that was mainly for disabling updates rather than trying to disable the default launcher.

- Installed LM 1.1.8 and LMU 1.0.8. I don't remember which one was the one that ended up working, but I'm pretty sure the old method worked for me. I remember being surprised it was working despite reading that it wasn't supposed to anymore.

- Oddly enough, Wolf Launcher was extremely laggy at this time, so I assumed Wolf Launcher was just buggy with the new Fire Stick, and installed FLauncher instead.

- At first, things were working fine, but then after some point (not sure if it was after power was lost to the Stick?), I could not access the system settings page at all anymore. I could still access FLauncher and all my apps perfectly fine, but the main System Settings page just would not load at all. As in, there was not even an error message - just nothing happening after any attempt at entering system settings. Tried from multiple entry vectors (remote's Settings button > Settings, and through FLauncher), and tried rebooting, but it still did not work.

- However, submenus like Wi-Fi settings through FLauncher were accessible.

In mid-December 2023, I went to visit family for the holidays and did not bring my Fire Stick home with me. I am 100% sure that the Fire Stick had no access to the internet during the whole time I was gone as I had brought my router with me.

After returning, I fired up my Fire Stick. I decided to do a factory reset, since I would still need access to the system settings for things in the future, even if the Launcher Manager was working. The situation completely changed now:

- I was able to interrupt the system update on initial setup this time. My Fire Stick says I am on 8.1.0.1 now, and since I interrupted it, I'm assuming that's the version it was on before (unless factory resets restore it to what it shipped with, in which case, I was probably on 8.1.0.2 before).

- This time, I did not install Debloat Toolbox.

- Installed LM 1.1.8. This time, the old method did not work at all. I get the error message saying I cannot use disable-user. Tried with new method. While it shows that the new custom launcher is set, pressing the home button does not actually work. Same thing occurred with 1.1.9. Same thing occurs after trying the Force Stop/Clear Data/Uninstall procedure.

- LMU 1.0.8 is completely blocked from being installed, which leads me to question whether I was able to install it initially. This error is given: Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_DUPLICATE_PERMISSION: Package com.wolf.lmu attempting to redeclare permission com.amazon.tv.permission.LAUNCHER_SETTINGS already owned by com.amazon.tv.settings.v2]

- Wolf Launcher does work when I access it manually, and is *not* laggy at all this time compared to before.

- System Settings do work.

- Clearing com.amazon.adep and com.fireos.arcus.proxy in adb shell gave a Success message. Using disable-user on them and on com.amazon.tv.launcher produces this error, though: [/I]java.lang.SecurityException: Cannot disable a protected package:[I]

EDIT: Just tested both FTVLaunchX and LauncherHijack. Both were also able to install without being blocked, but neither work even after enabling permissions.

I don't know if this tells us anything, but I hope it helps to some degree!