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[Fire TV General] dikodahan:
I've experienced same issue on both FTV and ATV devices. There seems to be a bug that causes the launcher to "hang".

The I found to avoid it is by having a single app in the third section. I found that having more than one app in the third section causes the launcher to hang. @SweenWolf, I am personally happy to provide debug logs if need be to help resolve it.
[Fire TV General] Alekos:
Do you mean rows? Apps and Widgets sections are default. It doesn't matter if apps section is above or below, and it only happens when exiting out of an app. Also tried every Launch Manager version, even the latest one.

Launcher has a default setup on my 2 4k Fire Sticks where I'm experiencing the issue with. 2017 shield works fine with same setup. The remote is working because long pressing on home brings up the menu where I can click apps then wlauncher to go back in.

I have faith you can figure out a workaround.
[Fire TV General] mmortal03:
I see that this has been added, but AV Sync Tuning is not accessible. Is this possible?
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
A PSA for anyone using Echo Studio + Alexa Home Theater group.

I had my Cube on 7.2.2.9 with updates blocked. This is the FireOS version before the new Amazon home screen layout. I just updated to 7.2.4.2 (latest) figuring I should get it over with before my warranty runs out, just in case.

There are several improvements to the Home Theater mode that were made between the two software versions, that had I known about I would have updated a long time ago.

- stereo audio sources are mixed over all internal Studio speakers (7.2.2.9 only outward firing speakers were used for stereo sources)

- multichannel AAC and multichannel PCM appears to work, where as before it was downmixed to stereo. Useful for some YouTube videos and Plex.

Updating to 7.2.4.2 didn't affect using Wolf Launcher. Rebooting the Cube doesn't appear to be any slower. The only quirk I have seen is that I have gotten a few messages about updating my remote pairing, but that only lasts 10-20s. I also had to delete and repair my Studio and Cube in a Home Theater group to regain Atmos in Netflix.
[Fire TV General] RG GEIGER:
I find with my fire tv cube 3, the newest remote has a button for the grid guide so while in wolf launcher I can use that button to access all linear tv channels . Loving the addition of widgets. I'd pay Amazon for an ad free version where that part of the screen is for widgets!

😃
[Fire TV General] UkuS:
works on Xiaomi Mi Stick? what version ill need?
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Works with the MiBoxS so chances are the Mi Stick should be fine. Launch Manager (ATV 1.0.3 - ATV for AndroidTV).
[Fire TV General] EnkryptedSpirit:
How would I go about using launcher manager and then install wolf launcher etc? Is there any compatibility for that?
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Launcher Manager is a tool/app that enables/disables the default Amazon launch screen, and then assigns a new app as the launch screen.

Wolf Launcher is a replacement home screen that Launcher Manager sets as your home screen.

There aren't any compatibility issues between any of the Launcher Manager versions and Wolf Launcher versions. The two apps are companions, but they don't depend on each other to function.

If you like, you can even use a different launcher like the 'Leanback Launcher' rather than Wolf Launcher if you prefer the look.
[Fire TV General] EnkryptedSpirit:
Ahh ok. Problem I am having is, the custom launcher doesn't activate on boot, and when I press the home button, it takes me right back out of the launcher (when I have it running) and back to the default tv launcher (Android TV Home). So kinda cumbersome. I had it set up nicely on the tivo stream 4k. Wolf launcher would start on boot and go back to wolf launcher after I press the home button on the remote to leave an app. The ONN 44 will not do that. I switched back to the ONN due to not being able to use any usb hubs that would work with expanded storage. The onn (with a bit of adb commands) now has adoptable storage, which wasn't possible before. AND I can use pretty much any powered usb hub to run the external sd drive, controllers etc on it.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Oh, I was assuming you were using a FireTV device. If you are using a device with AndroidTV, use Launcher Manager (ATV). ATV - AndroidTV. If you were using the FireOS version, then it was looking for the Amazon launcher to disable, not the ATV Launcher.

See if the ATV version works for you.
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
Hello! I want buy the new Fire TV 4k MAX.

Can I use "Launch Manager with Wolf Launcher" like FireTV4K?

For example with "Basic (2018)", don't work "Home" button.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Launcher Manager is still working without any problems on FireOS6 and OS7. It should be fine on the 4k max (OS7).

SweenWolf himself is using the 4k stick (2018 with FireOS6) and home button mapping works.

It's FireOS5 that has the home button mapping problem.
[Fire TV General] rihcus:
Idk if this applies but it works for me (though kinda finiky). What I notice after opening a few apps or spending a long time in certain video apps pressing the homebutton goes back to stock fire tv launcher I then have to reopen launchermanager settings and then the home button will work for a while. I wonder if this is because FOS5 is trying to optimize apps and killing them in the background (fire tv 1st gen).

Also using wolf launcher
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
I have some problem with Launcher Manger 1.13 and Wolf 0.19 with 4K MAX.

1. the apps appears without icon in amazon launcher

2. if I use amazon launcher and start "wolf launcher", wolf launcher is working correctly.

If with Launcher Manager set Wolf like default, the home button is working but not working the launcher.
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
The fire OS is 7.2.5.5
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
The issue with icons not showing is a problem with sideloaded apps in general. A more detailed explanation:

How to Fix Missing or Broken Icons for Sideloaded Apps on Amazon Fire TV

There appears to be a bug on select Amazon Fire TV devices that prevents the icon of some sideloaded apps to display correctly on the Home screen and Apps screen. Instead of the app icon appearing, a gray icon with a slash through it appears.

www.aftvnews.com

To your second point, I'm not sure I understand. When you use Launcher Manager, and enable custom launcher (wolf launcher in your case). Pressing the home button takes you to Wolf Launcher or the default Amazon Launcher?
[Fire TV General] hispanico957:
WHich is last apk to download for Fire Stick 4K Max ?

Thank

Hispa
[Fire TV General] Nomand:
Latest 1.1.3 works overall fine on my 4K Max.

I'm noted only one small issue - navigation sounds automatically turning on after every restart.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Use Wolf Launcher 0.1.9 reposted here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-firetv-...e-launcher-without-root.4176349/post-85358357

I just checked the MD5 Hash and can confirm it matches the last version that was posted.

MD5: 70597fb37712c7ea824adedb35f0a761

Use Launcher Manager [LM (FOS) 1.1.3] from the OP:

[APP][FIRETV][NOROOT] Launcher Manager (Change Launcher without Root)

LAUNCHER MANAGER (FOS 6+) BLOCKED BY AMAZON, USE LAUNCHER MANAGER (MINI) STEPS TO ENABLE CUSTOM LAUNCHER: Before installing version 1.1.8 uninstall any previous version. 1. Download Launcher Manager by clicking or by using short link and...

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[Fire TV General] foz1234:
Slow boot up on firestick max running os 7.2.5.5 ps7255/2444 maybe takes 1 1/2 - 2mins yet on 4k firestick os6.2.8.1 it fine.

1.1.3 LM & 0.1.9 WL

Any ideas? Boots fine less than 30 seconds without setting wl as default launcher
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
@Finnzz

on 4K MAX :>

1) Install Launch Manager (Im not open after install)

2) Install Wolf Launcher (not open after install)

ISSUE:

a) On home screen, i don't see the launcher manager icon and wolf launcher icon.

b) I open Launcher Manager, I click on "Enable Custom lancher" and appears "Sistema Android" instead Wolf Launcher.

Can you tell me where am I wrong?
[Fire TV General] foz1234:
@ clouditaly Open wolf launcher from settings > Applications > Open installed Applications.

See if you see wolf Launcher in the list if not re-download.
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
I see it. I open it and try to reboot my 4k max.

i'm waiting other solution to try.
[Fire TV General] SweenWolf:
Launcher Manager does not modify any system settings on boot. There may be some other issue.

Its an issue with the OS itself, can be patched by Amazon.

FireOS 7 running on Android 9 (pie) does gray out Icons of third party apps, it downloads the icons from the amazon server.

When you click on Enable custom launcher,

If the system has only 1 custom launcher then by default it will switch to it.

If it finds more than on custom launcher it will prompt the user for a default selection, like you mentioned above. (Indicating by showing "Android System" or in your case "Sistema Android", you can press home button to select your choice of launcher. After selecting the launcher click on always to select the launcher.

You will always be promoted on every install or uninstall of any third party launcher.

Launcher manager can also act as a launcher, if you enable Custom launcher handler from the Launcher options menu.

You can always find installed apps with their icons in Application section of Amazon settings.
[Fire TV General] hispanico957:
Ok BIG thank install and all is fine :-)

Just a little problem with Wolf... i set all but when i select HOME on remote, the screen not go to the start, first widgets after applications.....

There is a solution or this is default ?

Thank

Hispa
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
@SweenWolf

thanks for your reply.

If I enable custom laucher, the current launcher becomes "Sistema Android".

I can see two choise:

-> LM Custom Launcher Handler

-> Wolf Launcher.

which of the two options should I choose? And why?
[Fire TV General] Nomand:
Maybe it was some FireOS bug.

After updating lo latest Fire OS 7.2.5.5 this problem is gone.
[Fire TV General] Tech0308:
Wolf Launcher because that's what you're trying to use
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
The Wolf Launcher simply remembers the last position, and returns you there when you press home.

If you select the YouTube app, when you press home, you will be back to Wolf Launcher with the YouTube app still highlighted.

i don't think there is a way to always return to the same spot on pressing the home button.

If you aren't using widgets, you can remove the widgets section.
[Fire TV General] hispanico957:
I understand and thank you but it is inconvenient compared to the traditional launcher as wherever you are selected HOME brings you back to the beginning of the main screen ... :-(

Hispa
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
Hello! Now is all okay (LM113 and WolfLauncher 0.19) on Fire OS 7.2.5.5 (4K MAX).

Like foz1234, i have same problem with slow boot if I set WolfLauncher by default.
[Fire TV General] geradol:
I'm using LM 1.1.3 with Wolf Launcher, but now my Stick 4K Max starting much longer than before with stock launcher. Almost 1m30s compared to ~20s in stock.

Is it normal?

I don't have any other additional system related software on my Stick.
[Fire TV General] keepfun:
Hello

Thanks for the Launch Manager & Wolf Launcher !

With Stick 4K Max, i have noticed the long startup time 1m30sec. But my bluetooth headset is paired at about 30s (voice notification from the headset) in the background behind the firestick boot logo.

I have noticed as well that the "Settings" menu is not accessible with LM enabled.
[Fire TV General] nikolov_88:
Hello guys,

First of all, thank you very much for your work.

@SweenWolf what you did and still doing is amazing.

I don't know if it was already reported but I found a bug (it probably is because of Amazon) but if it could be changed will be great ...

1. App store keyboard and voice search are not working when the custom launcher is turned on. When you click on magnifying glass it just returns it in the previous screen.

2. As the stick doesn't support the Bulgarian keyboard I installed LeanKeyKeyboardPro. It works good but I cannot write Cyrillic from the Fire Amazon application. Also, voice writing doesn't work.

Thank you in advance!
[Fire TV General] olivercervera:
I've noticed that some settings from the original Fire OS menu are missing in Launcher Manager. For example on my Fire TV Stick 4k Max I'm missing the HDR options. Are you aware of the problem? I'm running Launcher Manager version 1.1.13
[Fire TV General] CloudItaly:
@SweenWolf

Hi!

How can Launcher Manager increase boot time by 1 min? If I wanted, I could install something that can help you read some logs of what happens on the 4K MAX.
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
Hey guys, a few months ago "Wolf Launcher" was available on this thread. What happened to it? I can no longer see it in the attachments.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Someone complained that it was a modded version of ATV Launcher so it was removed.

Another user was nice enough to repost it here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-firetv-...e-launcher-without-root.4176349/post-85358357
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
Thank you man, I really needed this from a good source.

It's crazy that these untrustworthy YouTube guys are offering it up, without even giving SweenWolf credit.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
I prefer to get the files from Wolf directly, but if that's not possible, you can ask people on this thread for the hash to confirm that any file from a secondary source is not altered.

Someone else had posted a link to the file on this thread that did not match the hash of the original file, and I'm not sure what the difference was, but the file was noticably bigger.

I can confirm that the MD5 Hash for Wolf Launcher 1.0.9

70597fb37712c7ea824adedb35f0a761
[Fire TV General] barth2:
FS MAX running 7.2.5.5 LM FOS 1.1.3. Wolf launcher 1.0.9

When I change display mode in LM from 4k to 1080p, it works, but now I can no longer go back to 2160p. Only display modes listed are Auto and1080p and below. Selecting Auto does nothing.

(If I have a 4k TV, why would I set display mode to anything other than 4k, you may ask. Because most stuff I watch are 1080p and image quality is better if I let TV upscale to 4k rather than let the firestick do it. Of course when I do play 4k then I want firestick to output 4k)

Edit to add I am also seeing long boot time on fs MAX like several other users in this thread.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Have you tried temporarily disabling the custom launcher, going into the regular FireTV settings / display and switching the resolution back to 4k? This will give you an idea if the missing resolution is related to LM specifically, or a more general FireOS issue.

Right now only the 4k Max is on the newest FireOS7 version 7.2.5.5. Someone with a 4k Max will have to use something like Logcat to try to figure out what the OS is waiting on that is causing the boot delay. That would help in trying to find a fix.

I only have the 2nd gen Cube, and I don't think Wolf has the 4k Max.
[Fire TV General] barth2:
I enabled stock launcher and set res back to Auto. Then back in LM, I switched to 1080p and nothing happened. Verified from my TV's info that it was still 4k. Rebooted. Now res was 1080p, and all res above 1080p gone as option. Changing to Auto did nothing. Rebooted and now in 4k and all res available. So it appears reboot is required for display mode change to take effect, and when current mode is 1080p, 2160p@60 and 2160p@50 are not present as options, only Auto

Another oddity is when I try to search in appstore, I get dumped right back to where I launched appstore from. This isn't specific to LM. I got this when I was using adb shell pm disable-user com.amazon.tv.launcher --user 0

What logcat do you need? I have adb working.
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
Hey guys, can the Launcher Manager make an app like Kodi the default launcher?

I have an Nvidia Shield TV Pro. The default launcher is ugly and infested with lame ads. Wolf Launcher only displays shortcuts without much content or widgets.

I've setup Kodi to have all Android app shortcuts and it lets you add lots of content widgets. I even tested it out a few months ago with some older tools & it worked perfectly as a launcher.

I like that the tools here are regularly updated, that's why I'm curious if they can work for this purpose.
[Fire TV General] barth2:
It does let you select any app as launcher. However, this feature doesn't seem to be working on the firestick max. But the max is new and several things aren't working. YMMV
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
Hmmm...for my Shield Pro, I was told only the older "ATV" version of Launcher Manager works. So I downloaded that from the attachments.

When I ran it, I got the default Android pop up asking to choose a launcher/home screen. There were only two options: Wolf Launcher & maybe the Androud default.

I'm trying to reproduce the pop now by disabling the Launcher Manager & re-enabling it. But it now just defaults to Wolf Launcher everytime.
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
I'm not sure about the resolution switching. One thing that you might find more convenient is using the resolution switching shortcut on the remote. Press and hold [up] + [rewind] for 5-10sec.

All the Tips, Secrets, and Hidden Menus of the Fire TV & Firestick Remote

The remote used by Fire TVs, Fire TV Sticks, Fire TV Cubes, and Fire TV Smart TVs has several secrets and hidden menus that are accessible by pressing and holding special button combinations.

www.aftvnews.com

Do you have a high end Sony? Is the upscaling on your TV really better than the Fire stick? I can't tell the difference between my Cube and my TV in terms of upscaling, but I'm not sitting close enough probably.

Regarding logcat, you would have to run it during the bootup process to see if there is any indication of what the system is waiting on. You may need to connect via USB if network access is not available on the stick during bootup.

If you disable wolf launcher, uninstall it, and try to enable launcher in the launcher manager, does it let you pick Kodi then?
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
The Launcher Manager ATV version is very weird.

If you uninstall Wolf Launcher...then enable Launcher Manager ATV...you only get two options in the home screen selection pop-up:

- Arc Browser (game collection app)

- TVUsage (security app)

So Kodi is not available as an option. And there's no way to select it from a list.

I wish it had some option that let you select your own app as a home screen launcher.
[Fire TV General] dikodahan:
I am also seeing some issues with the ATV version of the LM (using v1.0.3).

On a recent new Google TV interface (TCL TV with official Google TV v11) the LM is not "catching" the Enable Custom Launcher command. It looks like it is trying to do something but fails.

@SweenWolf any ideas?

Thank you!
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Looking back, it may be Launcher Manager Ultimate that let's you choose any app. Check out the second post on this thread, and see if that works for you:

https://xdaforums.com/t/app-firetv-...e-launcher-without-root.4176349/post-83705317

You could try Launcher Manager Ultimate too to see if it works any better.
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
Thank you man, I just downloaded it and will try it tonight. Hopefully it works!
[Fire TV General] jaibubwan:
Yes! Launcher Manager Ultimate is the best solution for my Nvidia Shield Pro. I was able to set Kodi as the launcher.

Even when launching other apps, pressing the remote's home button returned to Kodi (as the new home).

I even "stress tested" by opening the Shield's task manager and exiting Kodi. What happened was that when the home had to be accessed again, it simply re-started the Kodi app.

Furthermore, if you read the text on the Launcher Manager Ultimate page, it explains how the app uses a layered process to make sure users can easily recover if anything goes wrong.

This covers all scenarios. What a great solution!

Thanks again Finnzz for responding to my posts - and SweenWolf for designing such a great and up-to-date solution!
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Thinking about it, the Resolution menu in Launcher Manager is probably something written with ADB commands rather than by giving us a shortcut to the native menu. I just got a 4k capable TV and I was not right before. I see all the resolutions but as you said it doesn't trigger the TV to change when I select them. I'm also on FireOS7 like the Max. Requiring a reboot might be a difference between FireOS6 and FireOS7. Maybe there is a command to trigger a resolution switch without a reboot. Wolf may know.

You can use the remote shortcut to cycle resolutions ([up] + [reverse] for 5sec). It's a little bit of a hassle since you have to cycle through each resolution with a break in between.

I can say that the Amazon App Store search relies on the Amazon Launcher Manager, and won't work because it's disabled.
[Fire TV General] barth2:
On FS MAX, SmartTubeNext stable will switch display mode to best match the resolution and refresh rate of whatever video you are playing. I verified this with system status monitor. So it IS possible, but perhaps with API calls, not adb.
[Fire TV General] simonho1989:
any thoughts on open sourcing the app?

i am a hobbylist android dev too

i really would like to learn how do you do the adb commands on the app itself
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
I'm normally all for open source, but in the case of Launcher Manager, it's helping users avoid Amazon advertising, which I'm sure they are not positive about. Amazingly, Amazon hasn't patched FireOS to make LM unusable yet. They have killed older methods of enabling costum launchers in the past.

I don't doubt that the FireOS team is aware of LM and probably knows what loopholes it's exploiting to make it's magic happen. I'm assuming those loopholes haven't been closed because there is no easy way to close them without also restricting some of the capabilities that are important to regular FireTV users.

I worry that making LM open source will only help the FireOS team to bring an end to it faster.

There is another FireOS project here on XDA that leaves you with the Amazon Launcher but removes all the ads. That developer isn't even making his APK public because he's worried Amazon will patch against it immediately. It's just a very small closed beta.

It may be more reasonable to open source LM if FireOS does kill it in an update. At that point there is nothing to be lost to Amazon. And users will have to decide if they want to keep updates blocked to keep using LM, or update for whatever benefit it might bring and lose LM.
[Fire TV General] yurividal:
@SweenWolf first of all, thank you for your work on WolfLauncher!

I have been using version 0.1.9 and i think i have found a small bug. I am unable to delete a folder. I have already emptied the folder, but when i click delete folder and confirm, nothing happens.

Also, where is the best place to get updates for this launcher? I had been using a very old version, and had no idea that v0.1.9 was out!

Thanks mate
[Fire TV General] Woodman1965:
Hi There, i'm using the Fire TV launcher settings. Secure Permissions are granted,

but Accessibility Service stopped.

FireTv Box 2 Generation with OS 5.2.8.0

Where is the mistake ? Need some advice.

Greetings
[Fire TV General] Finnzz:
Amazon disabled some of the accessibility features on FireOS5 which is why I think it's not possible to get Wolf Launcher to stick as the default launcher. The home button on the remote will keep taking you back to the Amazon Launcher.

There was never a fix for this. Maybe with root access you could get the needed accessibility settings back.
[Fire TV General] barth2:
@SweenWolf a request for wolf launcher: a quick way to apply same style to all icons. Like maybe a button in the icon config dialog "Apply to all icons". If a color is chosen, maybe ask if user wants to apply same color or random color for each icon.

Wolf launcher is great and really the thing making fireos tolerable. THANK YOU!!