yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mievalt:
I've tested it and it looks like it is much older....

- It has the old mouse driver (no tapping function)

- It has the "old" Start-Screen

- on the first run it is not asking if you want to creat an email account like in the earlierer versions...

So it can't be the E2 we are looking for... or???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] EFN:
Yes precisely why I dont use JPHE2 as my base because I find DXHE1 is much later in driver versions.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mievalt:
Do you mean E2 is the later version but they used old drivers???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] EFN:
Sorry I have no idea why E2 is using older drivers. But I can confirm DXHE1 still stand as the latest one.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mievalt:
No prob, I mean how should you know??? Guess you are not working for samsung... ;)

But thx for your work!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] knights191:
He is working around the clock, with roms.. In these roms there are certain driver files, for the I780 to work correctly. Problably it shows their driver versions somewhere.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] g00ndu:
Based on the country code, some roms are developed at a much later stage but using the older versions of the drivers. Some places might have a development team that can churn out faster roms, while others might be slower.

Of course, the above is my opinion. YMMV. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AbdullahT:
waw

thanks man , you are the best :)
[Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers] e739:
I have a tablet that got the OTA 7/2020 for android 10 I’m now trying to root and flash twrp.

Boot loader is unlocked.

I have my full original firmware

The instructions I was following are from a thread in the forum.

1. Flash factory android 10 via Odin.

2. Flash android 9 BL with Test_twrp_290 I think by mechanik6

3 reboot to recovery wipe data

4. Flash magisk zip.

Best I’ve done this far is have a complete flash of BL and TWRP but missed recovery and it booted after that any time I flashed it showed unauth software and in download mode it’s now kg prenormal.

I’m going to flash the original android 10 form ware now then reflash the android 9 and twrp and try to get straight to recovery because based on my reading once flashed you have to immediately boot to recovery or it will replace twrp with factory.

Anything I’m getting wrong here?
[Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers] e739:
After this post that is exact what I did.

Flashed 10 stock complete

Flashed test for 290 twrp in AP

Flashed android 9 in BL

Booted and got to recovery with key combo

Wipe data factory reset.

Then I had access to twrp and I went to work on magisk manager

I have the apk and the zip. My tablet has to install in recovery.

Whenever I attempt to install magisk via the zip file I get an error

I installed the apk and haven’t made any real progress with this portion.

I plan to use magisk to root now that I have twrp on there. Which is one of the suggestions from the forum
[Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers] gcrutchr:
You should post the error you are getting.

Make sure system partition is not mounted or viceversa...I forget which way causes an install error
[Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers] e739:
I managed to get through a while ago I just forgot to update my own thread [emoji17].

IIRC I installed magisk manager via the apk and then in the magisk app installed the rest of magisk and rooted.

I have SU and titanium works etc it just fails safety net check in magisk haven’t really researched what that effects or why.

One thing I have noticed is my tablet is very slow and delayed on The RAID game and I’m assuming it’s an available ram issue so I will have to look into that.

It appears something is a ram hog because I believe raid while running uses around 500 mb of ram and of course there is the system stuff but with every app closed besides raid I want to say I’m showing like less than 200mb available ram so I hope to figure that out.

I also have to force external app storage in developer options so I can relocate as much of my app data as possible to the SD card due to the internal storage being limited.

I’m hoping eventually either myself or someone will put a rom out for this thing I miss the days I used to root and mess around with android a lot with the vanilla versions and of course my favorite at the time cyanogen mod
[Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers] e739:
Well that’s not ideal. My tablet was so slow and upon checking the ram the game I was playing raid uses a bunch of ram at about 750mb however the android os was second and was using 500mb of ram which seemed excessive booted into twrp and did the wipe immediately after you hit the wipe button and apparently my expectations were mistaken because next thing I know when the tablet boots I’m going through set up again [emoji19]
[Android Apps and Games] WelCoMe2DeT:
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On Google Play:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.boomerang.video.maker.looper.boomerit

Attached some screenshots of the app.

Would more than love to hear your thoughts and if you could hit that "Upvote" button, that would be great!

Thank you so much!
[Android Apps and Games] all43:
Nice and simple to use,I made a video but I've not tested sharing, is it possible to add slower motion?Joined up for the beta.
[Motorola One Action Questions & Answers] Gypsy:
Hi Guys,

Do you know if the differences in frequency bands between the different variants of the XT2013 -1, -2 -3 -4 are due to the firmware or the hardware itself ?

https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...13-4-vs-motorola-one-action-xt2013-2/12741712

/Thanks
[Motorola One Action Questions & Answers] T.Y.M.SAI:
Hardware
[Realme C3 Questions & Answers] dipakgain2020:
Please update apps Drawer transparent realme c3
[Realme C3 Questions & Answers] Ajay debbarma:
Realme c3 Android 11 update beta coming date
[Moto G8 Plus Questions & Answers] Gav_0:
Was wondering if anyone has gotten aptx HD to work on android 10 build? I am rooted and have tried everything I know to try.
[Moto G8 Plus Questions & Answers] PieHoleDepravity:
It's working under official android 10, not rooted. Maybe check the devs What's Working comments?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] deffez:
Any ideas about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OMRR9vsLKo
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] karlth:
The MAME emulator?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] skilty:
Do you know which version of MAME it is? ive tried Techmasters MegaCE3 but I did'nt see any option to map the keys to the screen as in the video
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] karlth:
No, sorry. No idea.

Edit: Could try PocketCult though. It is a possibility as it allows control redefinitions.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] htc-p3600:
With this application "emulator NEOGEO and CAPCOM for PocketPC"

you can set

the commands on Display. We put the name because I'm not sure that the regulation allows Link to external sites.

On that site where you will find the emulator, and also a link to another site for ROMS free.

This emulator uses ROMS (cps1, cps2 and neogeo)

:):D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] deffez:
i've tried pocketGBA but the game is too slow. Maybe with PocketSNES..

The problem is that the youtube type seems to be very good emulator...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] deffez:
and "final burn"?
[Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite  Questions & Answers] flowerpoweruk01:
I've tried several call recorder apps on the Play Store but none of them work.

Does anyone know of any that work with this phone?
[Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite  Questions & Answers] nesoler:
Rom Xiaomi.eu brings it by default
[Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite  Questions & Answers] arko7123:
magisk + axet's call recorder module is the way, if you stay on stock rom without mods there's no apps that works fine
[Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite  Questions & Answers] gunar74:
Magisk's Skvalex also works (but paid).
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] baobinhday:
Thank you. I rooted successfully after unlocking bootloader

Firmware: 12.0.10.0(QJDEUXM) - magisk_patched_V12.0.10.0_eea.img
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ChristopherMSA:
Getting the device in a week. Hope we can see more custom rom developments
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Beuzer:
Thanks for posting this!

Why do we have to wait for 168 hours? And can we check somewhere if the 168 hours have passed or is this something I have to keep track of myself?

#Edit: I've searched a bit on Google and apparently it's a Xiaomi thing and can't be bypassed. So I'll wait for 4 more days. Can't wait to get custom roms, don't really like MiUI.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jenaplisken:
in case of system update what will you do to keep root?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
yes, you can only unlock it after 168 hours, in my opinion it's a safe things for when you lost your phone.

you can check remaining time with Unlock Tool, click "unlock", if you have been logging for 168 hours, it will process, else it will show you how long you still have to wait.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
i saw Xiaomi 10T series are A-only device, so we have recovery partition. but if the device was A/B partition, we can easy to root them with Magisk Manager.

For the moment after system update, you will need computer to re-flash patched boot.

I'm still trying to make TWRP for this device...
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] NOSTALGIA:
good job... waiting for twrp
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Dorisnov:
I'm having 2 issues: ctsProfile is failing and cant hide Magisk. Anyone else?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
ctsProfile was false also before, i don't know why. I have changed attestation with MagiskHide props config, to Force BASIC key attestation to resolve.

Magisk hide, you need active in Magisk setting, default is unselected.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Dorisnov:
I was talking about hiding Magisk Manager, my bad. I'm currently testing Xiaomi.eu ¿does anyone have a patched boot.img?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] 7e0:
If I root my device, Can I use OTA update system? I can re-flash root anytime
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
go to Developer options, search after USB debugging, there is an USB install option, turn on it, it will work
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
with MIUI updater, I dont know, so I'm waiting next update to see. if no work, i already provided stock boot.img in Download link.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Dorisnov:
Thanks, thats it!
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
I just uploaded now
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ChristopherMSA:
does unlocking causes cts false ? even without root install ? cz. in my old device moto g5s plus i used to unlock and use custom roms without installing root and cts profile was true. now someone in Q&A thread told me that just unlocking will cauze cts false even if u dont install root. is that true ?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
see this:

https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/module-magiskhide-props-config-t3789228/amp/

maybe the 10t fingerprint isn't recorded in Google yet.

ro.product.model=M2007J3SG

ro.product.system.model=qssi system image for arm64

ro.product.vendor.model=M2007J3SG

ro.product.product.model=qssi system image for arm64

ro.product.product.model=qssi system image for arm64

ro.product.odm.model=M2007J3SG

these value need be Mi 10T or Mi 10T PRO but they use same firmware(they use

ro.product.vendor.marketname

to difference devices), maybe is this error, so Google cannot register them.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
Resolved with this: https://xdaforums.com/xiaomi-mi-10t/how-to/safety-pass-fix-ctsprofile-false-t4187095
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
see this:

https://xdaforums.com/xiaomi-mi-10t/how-to/safety-pass-fix-ctsprofile-false-t4187095
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jrotaetxe:
Does this run in K30S?

Regards
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
yes, I just patched boot for K30S, but you can try my unofficial Twrp to get root
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kage00:
Does anyone have a magisk patched boot img for Apollo global V12.0.6.0.QJDMIXM? If yes, can you please share a link?

edit

It's all good, I managed to sort it out. If anyone needs the file just ask and I'll upload it
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] NOSTALGIA:
pls upload it here.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kage00:
Here it is, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rFuox_dCQK8yiueWvml3o606GF2Tw5PG/view?usp=sharing

This is the patched boot.img for Apollo global V12.0.6.0.QJDMIXM

Feel free to add it to the OP [MENTION=8126580]Whyle[/MENTION]
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Rdier:
what is the difference between this and downloading the manager and magisk?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
To get root we have 2 method:

With a custom recovery

When we have Twrp etc, we can use this

Modify boot.img

When we haven't Twrp.., we can use this until Twrp release.

"Patched boot image" is patched by Magisk manager, without step flash zip file.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Rdier:
thanks. i have TWRP.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Georgie9117:
Hi!

I have tried several patched boot image - on one helped. So I booted to TWRP recovery and installed Magisk 21005 with that then root works. SafetyNet check too.

G.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bzzz19:
Hi guys, im at official 12.0.10 EU with bootloader unlocked, but not rooted as "supersu" sais, my issue is that i'm not able to use gpay, i tried patching magisk.img of 12.0.10 and using magisk hide on gpay but it doesn't work, and every time i install Magisk Manager or i patch the magisk.img im not able to open my Diabetes App "Librelink", i don't know why. Help me please, Thx u
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dimonicat:
I have installed in my MI10T this rom: xiaomi.eu_multi_MI10T_V12.0.3.0.QJDCNXM_v12-10-fastboot, with this patched boot img: V12.0.3.0 xiaomi.eu, I would like to insltall this rom: xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK30SUltra_MI10T_V12.0.5.0.QJDCNXM_v12-10. Does anyone have a magisk patched boot img for xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK30SUltra_MI10T_V12.0.5.0.QJDCNXM_v12-10, If yes, can you please share a link?. I don't have TWRP.

Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tepes4:
Does anybody have a patched boot.img for ROM xiaomi.eu_multi_MI10TPro_V12.0.7.0.QJDMIXM_v12-10.zip

From what I understand we cannot use 12.0.6.0 version. This is for the Mi10T PRO

Thank you very much
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
why you don't use twrp?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
you can flash magisk with Twrp, and i just uploaded patched boot(see #1 post).
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dimonicat:
Because in your first post in "[RECOVERY][UNOFFICIAL][3.4.0][apollo].........", you say: Install guide:

To boot (Reccomended):

Code:

fastboot boot <twrp.img>

And for that reason, I think I need the patched boot img

Sorry for my English, and thanks for you quick reply
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
ah, ok. maybe I explained bad.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dimonicat:
Thanks again

This evening I will install your new TWRP and the rom and the new Magisk-20.4(20400).zip

Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dimonicat:
I have already installed your lastest twrp 3.4-0_3 (flash recovery), then the rom (twrp) and finally your magisk (twrp). all perfect.

Thanks so much
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] albsat:
Great thread. We are lucky to have [MENTION=8126580]Whyle[/MENTION] in our mids and sharing his work.

Would you [MENTION=8126580]Whyle[/MENTION] give an instruction on how to find out the status if your device could be unlocked? I mean to find out if the time limit from Xiaomi has expired already? Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
command no, because it's saved on server, but if you try to unlock, it will give you the remaining time in Mi Unlocking Tool.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] albsat:
Thanks. I don't know but the Unlock button in MI app is always gray (inactivated). It's been a week now. Waiting...
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
try to install drive in Mi unlocker tool, and then re-try.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] albsat:
You are always helpful.

I found out that I couldn't unlock because of the phone number missing in registration. However when I tried to add my phone number in Xiaomi account, their verification SMS never arrived. Spent all my 5 attempts but no SMS. So nowI got to wait another 24 hours. Oh boy...

Sorry to hijack this thread.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Kuma_Chaser:
flashing patched img file will wipe data???
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maraschino:
no, but unlocking bootloader will

---------- Post added at 02:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:13 PM ----------

there is no need to flash boot_a and boot_b? just flash boot?

Thank you
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kickassdave:
Depends on the order in which it is flashed with MIUI.

I always found to install Magisk on MIUI you had to boot MIUI first at least once, then it would install fine.

Another option might be to decrypt storage after flashing MIUI before boot, then restart and try installing Magisk again.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sp8ky:
In 10 years since I've been rooting Androids I have never seen an easier method to root as it is with method 2 of patched boot.

Not too mention that it's not very invasive root. A lot of apps cannot detect root anymore if you magisk hide them. On my 9T I was never able to use banking apps or PS remote play.

So thanks a lot Whyle.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maraschino:
Is flash boot enough, or is it needed to do flash boot_a and flash boot_b?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] sergio_sant:
I am wondering... is there any chance that the bootloader relocks again maybe if I install an OTA? Or that's impossible to happen?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sp8ky:
Sorry but I don't even know what that means.

Considering I haven't done that and my root is still fine after 5 days, yes, it's enough.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DJonesT:
Hello, I would like to ask, how can I patch boot.img by myself? I tried the following steps: a clean system, install magisk manager, select the test version channel(v21.0), patch the boot.img, reboot to fastboot and flash it in, and it stuck in first screen(logo). Are there any details missing? K30S
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
Is Correct boot.img file?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DJonesT:
the boot.img is from the tgz or zip that i'm using.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Whyle:
correct version? why dont you use twrp to get root?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DJonesT:
yes, Because I got the same result using twrp，lol
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Striatum_bdr:
Mi 10 devices are not A/B devices, only one system file, use generic instructions
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] NOSTALGIA:
12.0.8 global is out. can we get a patched boot image?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Dacraun:
Thank you *very* much for your guide, and your work in making this possible. After my 168h wait, I finally got to rooting my Mi 10T Pro today. Thanks to your work on TWRP, and thanks to your safetynet fix, you get three likes from me. One for every one of your three topics on the subject.

Love you.
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Kloosek:
I'm sorry about maybe a stupid question. I bought this phone today and I know I have to wait a week to unlock the bootloader and do the root.

But later, when I upload custom recovery and do this root, can I still easily use Xiaomi software update? OTA is unlikely to work, but is it enough to download a zip pack and install it? And will I not lose the root and custom recovery then?

And the second question. Does the fingerprint reader work after unlocking the bootloader? I'm asking because Mi Unlocker warns you that the fingerprint reader will stop working.

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[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] a1fa:
if i will update to latest miui

from my phone

i will lose root? or it's safe to update?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maraschino:
if you are rooted only with magisk (patched boot.img), and don't have custom recovery like TWRP, it is easy to keep root.

you sholud do the following:

1. Magisk Manager - Uninstall Magisk - Restore Images (DO NOT REBOOT)

2. Downoad and install full OTA (DO NOT REBOOT)

3. Close all background apps (maybe not necessary)

4. Open Magisk Manager - tap "Install" - tap "Install" again - "Install to inactive slot (After OTA)"

5. Tap Reboot after Magisk instalation is complete

When having TWRP, the process is different. I don't have TWRP, so it's maybe better for someone else to write the procedure...
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] calinorg:
You can't install full ota without rebooting...
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] albsat:
If I update to the latest update file, I guess my phone remains unlock? Right? I will just lose root. Am I correct?

If both answers is yes, I guess I would simply boot to twrp and install magisk again and everything will be OK.

Hope someone helps me with my doubts written above. Thank you.

Update. I tried to install the ota update, but it failed.

So, how do we update to the latest miui version if we have the bootloader unlocked?
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] calinorg:
it failed because you don't have stock recovery, and twrp is not yet official, so it doesn't support ota. You must have stock recovery for now for ota to work. After update, you lose root, and you (re)install magisk again, as usual and root is back... If you don't want to reflash stock recovery, you have to dirty flash big zip of update through twrp
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maraschino:
you

you are correct. so I guess, one should OTA update (full ROM), and afterward just flash patched boot.img (of the latest OTA installed version) again to restore root - am I right?

am talking about root without TWRP
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] calinorg:
Yep 😁
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] maraschino:
just did it like this - no problems at all 👍
[Xiaomi Mi 10T / 10T Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WeWa2013:
i need a magisk patches image boot for Global version 12.0.11.

anyone know where I can get this or can i use a older version? Thanks.