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[Android Apps and Games] rezpower:
I don't know if what I am trying to do is even possible or not! But I need your help to know if I can do it and if yes how. I have made backups of few apps+data with Neo from my old rooted Samsung phone and want to install the backups on my new Samsung (Android 13) Phone which is not rooted. Neo will install on my new phone but when I run it, it will just tell me that the phone is not rooted and I have to quit the app.

I wonder if there is any way to install these backups manually or use another solution or get Neo running on non rooted phone. Of cours the main question is: If it's possible to install backups on non rooted phone!?
[Android Apps and Games] SigmundDroid:
I doubt it. Besides: Even on a rooted target I had mixed results (FP3 > Mi 11 lite 5G): Apps went through but their settings/authorizations so so.
[Android Apps and Games] doggydog2:
previously done with Helium app. Could do data as well. But I don't watch it since I root 100% phones.

i use it as before, restores all incl special backups.
[Android Apps and Games] doggydog2:
i wonder how to use the app list generated. "Save apps list" function. I wish I could install all apps from the list, as once again the data backups pushed away all app backups. I have defined a certain number of backups, but unlike other apps, Neo will fill up the slots with whatever is executed last (despite there's no reason to delete APK as data is in subfolders).

update: that is list of current apps, not backed up apps. the list of backed apps can be just extracted from file structure. unfortunately, no CLI tools work (gplaycli, gplaydl). Google Play lists recent apps, but it's just 1/3 of the apps installed last time. And it crashes once downloaded. So this is a very painful process of recovery, with many APKs missing. Basically, resorting to install manually one by one.
[Android Apps and Games] Zenasus:
Are there any plans to add backup labeling/personal notes?
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
It's best to post suggestions here:

Issues · NeoApplications/Neo-Backup

backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] SigmundDroid:
Just tried from LOS20 to 21 but as for data, any and all apps ended up with

"could not read input file or write output file due to IOException... input is not... .gz format"

Tried twice, not sure what to make of it as the apps themselves worked out nicely :unsure: Password perhaps but I didnt set any...
[Android Apps and Games] bnsmb:
Is it possible to exclude a directory that is not part of an app from the backup?

e.g.

- I do have various image files in the directory /data/media/0/Download/images/ and I don't need them in the backup

- I do not need a backup of the local maps from OsmAnd~

Is there already a more detailed documentation for the GUI (e.g. with explanation of the various icon used)?

regards

Bernd
[Android Apps and Games] sosimple:
Try the app and you'll probably solve your questions. You see what apps you have installed, and select which of them, or all, you want to backup. So you don't need to exclude any folder as it won't backup any folder. Only apps which are installed.

If you backup everything of all apps, and for example you don't want to backup everything of osmand, you can delete the backup of this qpp only, and backup it again selecting what you want to backup from this app. You can select not to backup the data of this app (as it would be huge, i suppose if you have many mqps).

Try the app, experiment by backuping some apps and you'll find the way..
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I only backup the APK, Data and Device Protected Data of OsmAnd~, and the maps are not included.

But like @sosimple says, just try the app, then you know what it is all about.
[Android Apps and Games] bnsmb:
I have tested the app - but I have not found a solution ...

That works - but the settings for the application parts to backup are not persistent

Nevertheless it would be a nice feature to be able to exclude specific directories from the backup via special file in the directory.

regards

Bernd
[Android Apps and Games] Zenasus:
The app now allows personal notes for anyone interested.
[Android Apps and Games] bnsmb:
I tested the app now for some days and also checked the FAQ and docs but I still did not find a method to exclude a data directory from the backup

There is an option in the settings to enable:

"Back up no_backup files"

Back up files in data that are labeled to be not backed up

How can I label a fiie or a directory to "be not backed up"?

regards

Bernd
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
I don't think it is possible to specify a particular "folder" to not backup.

You can only specify a particular "type" of data to backup or not backup like: "Data", "Device Protected Data", "External Data", "OBB Data" and "Media Data".
[Android Apps and Games] bnsmb:
So what is the meaning of that menu entry in the settings?

That is fine and I could use that. However, this setting is not permanent, so it does not apply to scheduled backups.

regards

Bernd
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
It is a setting allowing Neo Backup to override App opt-out. Android allows developers to opt their apps out of backups for security or privacy reasons. For instance, Seedvault respects this setting and will not backup apps that have opted out. With Neo Backup the user gets the choice to follow or override this.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Backup of apks with data is possible , its just that settings like screen resolution are not stored in apps' data like [MENTION=11135459]Pizze[/MENTION] wonderfully explained.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Late ,but new update is up!
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Great, just in time ?

What I don't understand is why an app that only exists in the main profile also gets installed in the work profile when restored. That only happens if the app has been uninstalled before the restore.

Only the app seems to be installed then and luckily not the data, but still it should not happen.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
I really have no idea why that happens, it does the same in my case. Maybe you can create an issue on github for it?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Done.
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
I just found this app when looking for a replacement for Titanium Backup. I was disappointed when I noticed it's only works on Android 8+. Why is that? What can be done to support Android 7? That's the version running on my LG v20.

Update: nevermind. I took this as motivation to finally upgrade to Oreo.
[Android Apps and Games] XlAfbk:
@OP: i took a look at this when it hit frontpage but at that time you said it wasn't ready yet. Seeing the big changelog of 4.0, do you consider it ready as a daily driver and TB replacement now?
[Android Apps and Games] Pinage:
Does the app uninstall fully uninstall with no residue like titanium?
[Android Apps and Games] mtshure:
I'm also curious. I have been using Titanium Backup but it does not work anymore. I am looking for an alternative and I wonder if this app has become stable enough to replace TiBu with.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Good to see that also data placed in data/user_de can be included. There the data for apps running in boot store data so that they can start without asking for user credentials.

I have decided not to backup external data, mainly because OsmAnd stores its maps there, which counts for several GBs. Will I lose important other data then? Or is there a way only to exclude OsmAnd's folder?

What does Enable special backups mean in Service preferences? It is unchecked by default.

Sorry I have to ask these questions here, but I don't (want to) have Telegram.

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Not sure what you mean, but this app only backs up and restores apps + data and does not have special features that I remember from TB like moving apps to and from system or wiping apps completely. Neither does it backup contacts, calendar items or sms etc.
[Android Apps and Games] Pinage:
If you tap on any app, there is actually a uninstall app option. I'm refering to that
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
I am unable to restore a downgrade. My use case is to restore a backup of an older version after upgrading via the play store. I was surprised that even after un-installing the app, I still wasn't able to restore. there was a popup error about trying to downgrade.

Is that a known issue or am I doing something wrong?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Whats the error?
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
this is it.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
so the same happens if u uninstall the app completely and restore it?
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
Nevermind. I just tried to reproduce that case and the restore was successful. I don't know what happened last time. I must not have really uninstalled. sorry for the alarm.

Still, it would be nice to be able to restore a downgrade without needing to uninstall first.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
imo none of the app shud be able to make a downgrade compatible if its incompatible by the other app itself. but still u can create an issue in github. maybe for such situations OABX can uninstall first automatically then restore, making it easier for the user.

update : talked to the developer about it, he says user needs to uninstall first then restore in such cases sadly.
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
That's disappointing. Titanium used to be able to do it, but also fails now. That's what motivated me to look for an alternative. The difference is that TB fails without displaying an error, so you don't know there was a problem. At least OABX shows an error. that's better.

Did he have any explanation as to why it's not possible? Since I'd be replacing App and Data, how is it different than uninstalling first?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
if you ignore the data part , restoring a newer or older version of app is just like manually installing it over the installed version. Oandbackupx does the same. in situations where installing a version of the app over another version of the same app isnt compatible , for example because of different signature, we need to do a fresh install of such app. The process of uninstalling then restoring after getting the error automatically is although possible , is probably not worth the time coding it as these are very rare. Most of the apps remain compatible generally for downgrades and upgrades.
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
what controls this? Is it something in the app that indicates that downgrade is not possible, and that I've just been unlucky to be picking those apps recently.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
yes, it happens because of the app being down/upgraded itself.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
[MENTION=9579937]Walden0[/MENTION], do you know what the second icon on the menu bar means, the one between Settings and Backup? Mine currently is colored red and has a small counter connected to it with the number 11. Pressing it does nothing. What is that?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
it shows the list of all the installed apps on your phone. I have never seen any number on it though, can you post a screenshot?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
See attachment. It has come up to 22 now after trying a new backup, I think it gives the number of messages in the log. Is there a way to clear the log?

Edit: It's not the log. I cleared that with a text editor and the number is still there.
[Android Apps and Games] tdusen:
thanks for the explanation.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
i just asked the dev, he says it is the Number of apps that are updated since their last backup.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Thank you! Maybe next time you contact him you can propose to make a legend for al the icons in the app. They are not always that clear. ?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
There is a legend if you tap on the info icon , but it doesnt have the icon we talked about. Ill ping him about this.
[Android Apps and Games] @kitokit:
Can I use this one to transfer back up from rom to rom?

Wether stock or aosp?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
yes
[Android Apps and Games] @kitokit:
I have an error when trying to restore backup, it says backup missing .
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
sorry for late reply, could you please open an issue on github?
[Android Apps and Games] sameersharmap1:
some questions cani say take a bckup on my redmi note 4 and install it on MI a3 is it possible both phones are rooted and runing android 10 custom roms
[Android Apps and Games] diggens:
Runs smooth and fast on A7 2018 with custom Rom...

ThX
[Android Apps and Games] loopypalm:
making flashable zip added ?
[Android Apps and Games] justcosmic:
Just tried to install and get message "there was a problem parsing the package" downloaded from 2 different places (Github and Izzy)...
[Android Apps and Games] Machiav3lli:
The App supports only A8+.

That's one of the lowest priorities for now.

Happy to hear, you're welcome.

First and main difference: this project is open source. Second one: it's still under heavy development, performance isn't there yet.

Otherwise, a feedback is always welcome, preferably on GH, TG or Matrix.

In the current stable version(4.0.0), you should have the same backup directory on both devices e.g. 0/OABackupX/

@kitokit The same applies to your situation.

The documentation work is still secondary for now (performance & stability is the first priority) , but 5.0.0(alphas) provide already a lil bit more, and more is coming.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
I'm happy to see 5.0.0 is in the making. Not using Telegram or Matrix, it is hard to follow the progress of this project.

Thanks for the update!
[Android Apps and Games] goodflood:
Hello.

So, my new device is ARM64; old device is not. I installed an old version (0.3.5) on the old device; new device has version 4.0.

I haven't tried to restore anything yet, but, is this going to be a problem? Should I installed an older version on the new device and try? Any other work around that might help?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Yea, from version 3.0.0 onwards you cant restore backups made with older versions. So its better you use the older builds. Or can use original oandbackup app
[Android Apps and Games] wilspeak:
I tried to install the apk on my Rooted S7 Edge and I received a "There is a problem parsing the package" error message. How can I correct that error? Also can this application freeze applications like Titanium Pro?
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
Probably something went wrong while downloading, just fetch it again.

Freeze is called 'Disable' in the app, so yes, you can.
[Android Apps and Games] wilspeak:
My Titanium Pro stopped working. This time I am going to load the apk through my PC. I may be getting a new phone .. I am thinking about getting the

Samsung Galaxy S20 5G and rooting it. Thank You
[Android Apps and Games] mtshure:
Today I tried this app for the first time. I backed up from an old phone, copied the files to a new phone, then when I try to restore it says "RestoreFailedException: base.apk is missing in backup". I see base.apk files from explorer app and I granted root, storage permission.

I installed the app on both phones from F-Droid, version 4.0.0.

Why do I get this error?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
It is a known issue as of now.

According to the developer these are the workarounds to solve it :

Just make sure it's the same directory as when you've done it. The directory in a Uri form can be found in any of the .properties files that you made by then.

Or

Create a new backup with the same mode, then replace its files with the ones from the older one
[Android Apps and Games] mtshure:
After multiple failed attempts, I used Swift Backup to move apps from old phone to new. It was not perfect but it worked.

Reading your suggestions, I backed up the same app (with different app data) on both phones, replaced backup files from new phone with old phone, then tried to restore. It gave me "Errors occured, RestoreFailedException: Could not read the input file or write an output file due to IOException: java.io.IOException: Unable to create folder ..."

I am not sure what went wrong this time. It looks like this app is not mature yet. I will come back later to see if the app becomes stable then.
[Android Apps and Games] goodflood:
On my manta tablet running LOS 16, I installed OABX 4.0. I took a backup. Then, I upgraded the ROM To LOS 17.1. Now, when I try to go to restore, nothing shows. Even though I have linked to the backup/restore folder several times. The issues to provide a location keeps coming up. I can't backup or restore. I have installed the app from f-droid and also, the one in the backup/restore folder. Funny thing is, even though ALL settings are enabled, and nothing shows up, I see my apps flash for a second and then disappear. I was afraid I did not do the backup properly, but I know there are there. What is going on? Worse case, I flash back LOS 16 and try a restore.

EDIT1: This might have to do with permissions to read / write. I haven't done anything wierd; its a clean install and I have magisk latest. What more do I need?

EDIT2: The path in .properties was screwed up. I used notepad++ to change it in bulk: http://cybernetnews.com/find-replace-multiple-files/. It worked!

Use notepad++, to search and replace the following. In my case:

From: content://com.android.providers.downloads.documents/tree/downloads/document/raw%3A%2Fstorage%2Femulated%2F0%2FDownload%2FOABackupX%2F

To: content://com.android.externalstorage.documents/tree/home%3A/document/home%3AOABackupX%2F

Example: http://cybernetnews.com/find-replace-multiple-files/

Oh, before that, use Unix Line Ending so you don't experience problems, if in Windows.

For those trying, no support is provided; do it at your own risk. Or, wait for an official release.
[Android Apps and Games] Mumxek:
Like all backup apps, for example titanium, i never found the possibilty to split archives to max size. Fat32 has a 4gb file size limit!!!
[Android Apps and Games] goodflood:
So, backup and restore using version 4.0 worked, after fixing the restore location. But, I have one app that shows a yellow shield, Device Protected Data, and, it is not restoring. What do I do?

Will chmod 777 on all the files work?

EDIT: Did not work... not sure what would help. Loss data... started over. App itself had a backup/restore option.
[Android Apps and Games] Mumxek:
The app restores backups under its own uid/group, not apps...
[Android Apps and Games] Machiav3lli:
In the latest 5.0.1 SELinux issues are fixed. The update is already on Github, IzzyOnDroid and will neeed as usual couple of days to be on F-Droid.
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
- deleted -
[Android Apps and Games] Valiante:
Release 5.0.2 crashing constantly, can't get passed the setup screen. Anytime "backup folder" is pressed, it crashes.

EDIT: Same with Release 5.0.1
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Logs? The developer can't solve your problem without them. Also, at least here both versions are working fine here (Pixel 2 XL, Android 11).
[Android Apps and Games] Valiante:
I saw no instructions on where the logs for this app are located in the OP, where are the logs located?
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
The app doesn't generate its own logs. You need an app like Logcat Extreme or else connect your device to your PC and use ADB to capture a log as the app attempts to run.
[Android Apps and Games] SaidJan:
Same here, when I tap on "Backup folder" the app crashed. I'm using the latest version on Android 11. I allowed Storage permission from setting, and gave root access, but still crashes.
[Android Apps and Games] birleytweet:
Honestly I've really wanted to switch to Titatium backup to OandbackupX, but always have issues. I was able to restore apps this time, but got the input file error. It restored apps ok, but missing data.

Ended up switching back to Titatium backup again as it just seems to be more reliable, but do hope OandbackupX keeps improving.
[Android Apps and Games] Machiav3lli:
This usually points out that you've removed Files (system's file manager). This app is the only one able to manage SAF and looking at the direction the Android developers are going, it won't be going away soon but will be more established in the next months and years, as apps are forced to use SAF starting with A11. In the latest test builds this is communicated better now. I think the same applies to your error @Valiante

There's always this question, what type of "data" are we talking about here? In the settings(service preferences) you can choose the data that should be backed up. Otherwise, apps saving their data in the external storage against Android standards e.g. Whatsapp can't be backed up "fully", as there's no API to get the addresses of this on-external-storage data.
[Android Apps and Games] gaglia83:
Hello, I am testing OandbackupX on my new device, a beyond0lte with Lineage 18.1 + Magisk (no Gapps)

After doing a very minimal setup and installed just a couple of apps I tested a backup with OandBackupX (APK and data) on an external SD card, then I formatted data, reinstalled OandBackupX, and tried to restore. I am not sure I am doing things properly.

Certain user-installed apps are restored correctly, F-Droid for example works and recovers my original settings.

Other stuff does not seem to work. For example Termux I can restore the APK and let it start from scratch, but if I also restore the data (prefrences etc) it doesn't run, on restore I receive error "Could not update permissions for data".

Other stuff doesn't work and I'm not sure why. Mainly the AOSP settings. For example, my PIN is not restored, the device name is not restored, WiFi acceess points settings are not restored, and I'm sure most of other user settings even though I haven't checked all.

What am I doing wrong?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
NEW VERSION 6.0.0 IS UP.

Changelogs:

Added: Encrypt private preferences including encryption password (using Android keystore)

Added: Export/import of schedules

Added: Global blocklist applies to Main

Added: Ascending/descending sort support

Added: Warning text to backup directory picker

Added: Direct share button for logs

Added: Better error handling

Updated: Make backup dialog checks response to the service's active options

Updated: Use modes' checkboxes in the backup/restore/schedule dialogs

Updated: Schedule action on first day if possible

Updated: Replace Blacklist with Blocklist

Fixed: Don't schedule when disabled

Fixed: Crash when scheduled list of apps is empty

Fixed: Schedules not firing on time

Fixed: Delayed notifications of some restored apps (exclude the push notifications' ID from backups)

Fixed: Backup instance folder left untouched after backup failing

Fixed: Hiding device lock option when there's no lock

Added: Catalan language

Updated translation: Arabic, Spanish, Indonesian, Polish, Russian, Japanese, Chinese, Dutch, French
[Android Apps and Games] swour:
Restoring Firefox and Kindle backups produces an error "Could not update permissions for data". This results in a corrupted state where the app can't be started anymore. Tested on LOS 17.1 and 18.1.
[Android Apps and Games] rn3miii:
V6 update via f-droid seems problematic (broken for me even after uninstalling/reinstalling) but the apk from github works normally, not sure why the difference...
[Android Apps and Games] Dj Telo:
Hi!

I've been testing the app for a few days and I have observed that it takes a huge load of time to backup. For around 160 apps, it takes around 7 hours for me. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] MinimalDroid:
Maybe you have huge amount of data e.g. in Chat apps backuped aswell?
[Android Apps and Games] MinimalDroid:
Does it not run at all from F-Droid? I had no problem installing the latest version from F-Droid ...