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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Digger.:
Experience, what experience?

I think the point is, is that many people here (as far as I am aware, as I am new) have spent thousands of collective hours to improve these products, and you feel it appropriate to post on the same site and claim that after a few minutes use it aint worth it and by inference the rest of us should not bother? I sympathise with your frustration, but no need to unload so quickly. Why dont you show some respect to the community (of which I am not part yet) by allowing others to help? Presumably thats why you posted here?

Guess I am wasting my breath. . .hohum
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] IBORGUK:
I've stated my motives, i.e. sharing my experience (come now I've actually got the device !) and to be frank it doesn't take long to get a gut feel for whether something is working for you or not. It hasn't for me but that doesn't mean it wont for you or others. If the forum doesn't want opinions posted then maybe it should state so in the forum rules, sorry it's not what some want to hear but hey we are all different.

As for my not showing respect that is untrue, otherwise I wouldn't bother posting polite responses when I've been called a liar.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] l3v5y:
Can we try and avoid a flame thread?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] IBORGUK:
From my viewpoint I'm happy for the thread to be closed as per an earlier post.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Digger.:
Yes of course . . . sorry. . .but still confused as to the helpfulness of the thread, in context as to why this site exists.

Apologies.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] IBORGUK:
The point of the thread was to provide an initial experience of the HTC Touch Pro from someone who has one. Bottom line is that for me it's not been as good an experience as the TYTN II.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Digger.:
Fair enough mate :). What will you move to next? SE Experia X1? How about the Nokia E71? Speedy, good battery life, etc, reasonable browsing.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] IBORGUK:
I think for now I'll stick with the TYTN II but will keep an eye out for other platforms. I'm really hoping that Windows Mobile 7 when available will pull something out of the bag and optimise the whole Windows Mobile experience. Again I'm a fan of the HTC hardware itself, they build good kit, it's the underlying OS which needs sorting (esp the browser).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
When was the last time Microsoft optimised a new version of their software?? Generally you need to greatly increase your hardware to be able to use Microsoft software. (I am of course generalising and mainly talking about their desktop software). Still, I reckon it is very unlikely that WM7 will perform better on the same hardware as WM6.1.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] IBORGUK:
I express a hope not a fact ;) Microsoft are great at marketing less than stellar software but let's be frank from an mobile o/s point of view their market position is getting squeezed by others whose interface is perceived by some of Joe Public to be the slicker proposition. Microsoft need to show they are hungry to regain ground here. I am not however holding my breath.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
Definitely agreeing with you here. Without going off track from the thread too much Android OS might be a good option once it comes out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] IBORGUK:
If nothing else Android will increase the diversity/competition.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Digger.:
Totally agree. Maybe M$ need another acquisition, to provide well honed skins, that can be "bundled" with the Mobile OS. Still M$ need to put their s/w on a major diet, and add some fun/style. Easy to comment on, very hard to create I imagine. Maybe M$ should consider completely rebranding their mobile division?

EDIT Wanders off to research "Android". . .
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
Android is Googles mobile operating system. It isn't released yet on any phones however there are rumors that HTC will be the first manufacturer to provide a phone running Android OS. This phone is currently known as the HTC Dream and should be released Q4 this year. Android is developed with openness in mind, there is a full SDK available and development can be performed in Eclipse, an emulator is also provided to allow new programs to be tested and debugged.

Hope this gives you a quick overview.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Digger.:
Hmmm sounds interesting, although for some reason think Google are becoming too large? Is it more WinMobile, Linux, or Symbian oriented. None of them? Oh dear. Just thinking about current applications available for mobile devices.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
It is more linux oriented I would say. My understanding is that the development language is VERY similar to java. Other applications would not be cross-compatible however I think if it takes off most major mobile software companies would produce applications for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
I posted a video of my Touch Pro the first day with TouchFlo3D, and it didn't seem "sluggish" at all (even before all of the tweaks I've now applied). Maybe AT&T changed something around with their ROM, but even factory spec I saw no real issues.
[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
OMG! Kim K posted another selfie with tons of cleavage! Rate this thread to express how quickly apps launch on the Vivo V20. A higher rating indicates that even the most intensive apps launch quickly and without hesitation, even if they are no longer in RAM.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Vivo V20 performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Vivo V20 keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Vivo V20 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Vivo V20 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Vivo V20's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] noney82:
also known as hermes 100 i think. my father in law has just got one, its locked to orange but wants to use it on vodafone. he took it to shop yesterday and they said they cant do it. my question is can it be unlocked to vodafone? if so can i do it, where is the idiots guide hehe. the guy in shop said i need to flash the phone and the software costs me £35 so he said id have to charge more than that to do it. iv looked in the sticky thread but cant seem to see the right link with instructions

thank you

hope i posted it in the right place
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] veyka:
see here, its free, and its easy.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=293665
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] noney82:
thank you :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ultramag69:
Gotta love those phone stores where most people give you a blank look when you walk in and ask for anything thats not a nokia or Iphone....:rolleyes:

Ask anything technical and you get the greatest story ever told..Sometimes funny to go to there & ask to see the clowns in action, almost like going to the circus, almost....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Wam7:
Yeah I have experienced your sense of stupification! ;) I don't mind people saying they don't know something, it's when they try to blag it and pretend they have a clue...

@noney82

Unlocking your phone (thanks to Pof et al) is pretty straight forward and painless. It you plan on doing any more upgrading or flashing then read the sections in the WIKI carefully and thoroughly, they will keep you safe.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] noney82:
iv sorted it, thank you all very much for your help you been great, turned out very easy. im now going to put a new rom on my orbit i think:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ultramag69:
Before flashing a new OS, PLEASE make sure you put Hard SPL on the Hermes...

Here - http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37669&d=1177280888

It won't guarantee a flawless flash but if there is a problem you have a much better chance to recover the phone... Better than none, which is about what you get without it..

I'd like to say also, and I know Wam7 is with me on this, installing with the sd card method is safer and easier than using the PC. For instructions on how to install Hard SPL with the sd card instead of the PC go to page 116 - post 1160 on the thread I linked above..

To use the sd card method for an OS (after installing Hard SPL) just do the same thing but leave out steps 5 &6.

Cheers...:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] noney82:
i'll look into it still not brave enough yet tho:D
[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Vivo V20 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Vivo V20 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Vivo V20 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Vivo V20 can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Vivo V20's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Stellios:
Hi guys,

Ive had a good search and cannot find anything about this problem.

On the music tab of my diamond it lists all of my music when I go into the Library option, only problem being that it is still listing items ive deleted. The library mark these files with an exclamation mark so knows they are not there, but I cannot find out how to remove them from the library list. The player will also still attempt to play them, but just skips straight past them.

Anyone got any ideas how I can make the library update to remove these files?

Thanks for any advice
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kien:
go to \app data\HTC\AudioManager rename the AudioManager_Eng.vol file. Softreset and it will refresh the library and create a new AudioManager_Eng.vol file, you can then delete the old one you created.

Not sure if there's a simpler way around it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Stellios:
Typical, had another search around the phoen and it turns out you just delete a file.

For anyone thats interested

Start/File Explorer/Application Data/HTC/AudioManager/Delete the AudioManager_Eng.vol file
[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Vivo V20 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] firefighter8015:
1 hour -100%
[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Vivo V20 before depleting the battery.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Vivo V20's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] firefighter8015:
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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Vivo V20's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Vivo V20's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rgbyhkr:
I've poked around in the registry and haven't found something appropriate there, so I figured I would ask the ROM gurus here. I have a thread in the Kaiser General sub forum where I was poking around trying to prevent the Tilt from powering off as soon as you open the SIM door. My results were interesting and suggest that the behavior could be modified:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416854

The questions is, where? I wonder if it might be in ccoredrv.dll, but I have no experience editing ROMs or extracting ROM files, so I could use some guidance. I appreciate any suggestions and especially if anyone is interested in trying to accomplish this. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
on my kaiser the kaiser shuts off as soon as i open the door. this should have stayed in the other part of the kaiser forum :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jokies:
Ahhh...

Impossible because of phisical problems...
[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the Vivo V20 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Vivo V20 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Vivo V20 is a beautiful phone.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Vivo V20 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Vivo V20 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Vivo V20. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] vishalpatel59:
The latest version and all other older versions of this phone do not have user comfortable software like other MIUI or Oneplus phone's software. Rather this phone should have stock ROM. The third party app support is missing. The ambient display does not display full message.
[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Vivo V20's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Inescapbl:
Hi again,

So this new ROM is cool :) Got it working but now I have some questions:

What is PRI?

What is PRL?

And what is this 'Update PRI' app included in the Connections tab on the dcd ROM?

Ry
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] acidone:
1. WHAT IS A PRL? Primary Roaming List?

It's a large but simple file used in most CDMA phones to determine which cellular carriers a phone should access, and in which priority. The phone is often searching all available cellular signals and comparing the results to it's PRL file, and chooses the channel that is most beneficial to the home carrier. It is primarily used to sort among roaming carriers. It is never used to find the strongest signal.

Not sure about PRI Primary Roaming Interface?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Damager:
Is there a list of the PRI/PRL etc numbers for each carrier?

Im wondering if that will fix my evdo connection problem

im on the sprint 3.35.04 radio rom/dcd 3.2.5 wm6.1 rom/tnz carrier cab

where is this tab ? i couldnt see it
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] acidone:
Although you can get these lists, it is not something you can change or modify. It is something that the phone does automatically and is not based off signal strength.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ajm144k:
not only can you get these lists here http://corolada.com/prl/ but you can download whichever one you want for your respective carrier (but you probably want the newest one) and then you can change to it by going into your epst.

what im wondering is if i live in California, for example, and dial *228, then fly to New York and dial *228 does that do anything at all for my roaming? or is it just attempting to see if there was any new PRL since my last *228 dial
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] acidone:
Sorry miss understood your question. If you fly to NYC then dialling *228 and option 2 would tell you phone check the PRL list for the best roaming possibilities in the area you are in.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Vivo V20's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Vivo V20's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
The Vivo V20 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Vivo V20's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you call granny, does she keep saying "Huh?! Wut?!" or does the conversation flow pretty well? Rate this thread to express how you feel about the Vivo V20's call quality. A higher rating indicates that calls are clear and crisp, and that regardless of background noise, you can hear the other party clearly (and with ample volume) and they can hear you.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Vivo V20's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Vivo V20's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.

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[Vivo V20 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Vivo V20's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.

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[Vivo V20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Vivo V20 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Vivo V20 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it. :o

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[Vivo V20 Pro Real Life Review] alamri mutrif25:
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