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[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
Within Advanced settings there is an option called Super res zoom (Sabre). It's turned On with surfers xml, but I found that turning it off shaves 3 MB from file size.

Here is an explanation of what it does: "Super Res Zoom means that if you pinch-zoom before pressing the shutter, you'll get a lot more details in your picture than if you crop afterwards."

So basically, if you dont zoom in a lot (or at all like myself), you can safely turn that option off and save 3 MB every time you take a pic.

Thanx for that noise modeler tip. I had it turned on and set do IMX 686, thinking it would do something. Will see if turning it off fixes the problem.

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Maybe you can open a thread specifically for sharing XMLs. This thread is general info about GCams out there, but there could be a separate XML one. I understand your frustration and I agree. I hope admin will understand and allow a new thread, so that everyone has easier time.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] yanikan:
Yes,Sabre is great to have and I don't want it off.What Picard20 suggesting is to turn off Lib Patcher per each lens which doesn't effect Sabre option.

On another topic.

Did somedoby tried to use and tweak Urnyx-Wichaya mode on Poco X3? It was mentioned earlier in the thread it has much more built-in options to tweak.I accualy tried it with OnePlus 7T and I liked it alot but it is older phone and there is much more mods and xmls for it.Please share your experience who tries different mods for our X3.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
I tried Urny-Wichaya and first thing I noticed is crash when switching to front cam and wide angle. I managed to fix that by messing around with cam IDs and now it works great. For some reason, pic size on that GCam is 3-4 MB, even with Sabre on. It uses max resolution by default, but there is no option to set photo quality at certain %, so I wonder whats the default value, since the file size is that small.

It certainly has a lot of options. Maybe I'll mess around with it when I have time and see how it holds up against NGCam.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] rudix78:
I'm using Ngcam 7.4.104 v1.8 with 15 frame.xml from [MENTION=535433]surferbyter[/MENTION]. I'm surprised how do you guys get 15MB or so pictures. I get arround 6MB for 3472x4624 (16MP res) and 3MB for 2160x3840 (8MP res). These are the highest resolutions for 4:3 and 9:16 in the settings.. JPG quality is set to 100%. I run custom rom. Maybe you run MIUI and get higher resolution pictures?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
I try to give a cumulative answer to the questions you have discussed in the last posts. Let's start with a premise. It is great that each of you try to adjust the settings to your need trying to understand what they are for individually because I repeat XML is not law and everyone has their own needs and their own visual taste. My xml tend to make the most of the possibilities of gcam. Higher sharpness, saber, stream config etc etc. Obviously if for example someone doesn't care about zooming or printing photos but prefers smaller file sizes, they do well to turn it off as @ Picard20 did. I would add, however, that the saber becomes useful even without zooming in the photos to make macros using the appropriate option of the slider focus because by using this mode the photo to become a real macro must be cropped and possibly rotated in order to obtain the right shot. . Regarding the size of the files. They not only depend on the options, saber, compression, very high sharpness, but also on the information that the photos contain. For example, a photo with many trees covered with leaves will have so much information due to the micro details that it will weigh much more than a photo taken of a simple subject on a homogeneous background. Just as a photo that contains many areas in contrast between light and shadow will weigh more than one in which the exposure is homogeneous. Regarding a possible new thread, I honestly expected a reply to a private post in which I explained why I had opened the specific thread to ngcam asking for the possibility of being able to organize the sharing of apk and xml since this thread being where we are writing not mine here I can only share but do not edit the first post which obviously was created as a simple generic question and not with the intention of being able to organize and share the best experiences. I have not received any feedback and I have interpreted that the management of the forum does not care about an optimized thread. Obviously they want to devote themselves more to the Roma and the tricks of the system itself and not to the photographic sector. In my opinion it is a mistake because by now taking good photos with our mobile phones has the same importance as all the other social functions, called web, that they allow.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
For comparison I used surfers NGCam 1.8 v5 medium sharpness xml and I get 14,4 MB for a 5 frame picture. Yes, I use MIU, but how can that affect it ? The resolution is always the same (3472 x 4624), and even the stock app produces 4,1 MB photo size. I honestly dont know why such a large file size.

Changing library from Etalon7+ to Google, produces 10 MB pictures, so 4 MB less. Still doesn't explain why we have different file size using same xml and settings. Did you tweak anything on your own ?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] slipstreamer88:
For the OnePlus 3 we had a thread by S4turno who maintained a really nice first post with all relevant information. Suggested versions, XML files, links everything. It reduced clutter and unnecessary "best gcam?" replies.

Request to mods to allow surferbyter to make a new thread
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
I think stock camera is very good with skin tones as compared to gcam as most of the time we will be taking pictures of people as compared to landscapes. While gcam has its advantages wrt detail and low night performance but still not good with skin tones. Hopefully Arnova version may address this issue..
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] rudix78:
No tweak, but I can see difference when I take pictures of trees and leaves. Now I can see 11MB for 3:4 and 6MB for 9:16 ratio respectively. So now I believe it can be even as much as 15MB per picture for the "full frame".

Edit: on my old Redmi Note 3 phone that also has 16MP main sensor I can get same resolution as poco x3 in 4:3 format but in 16:9 it is capable to shoot 11.9MP. Will it improve in future updates or there is some hardware limitation in our Poco?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
My NGCam produces 2160x3840 resolution in 16:9, which is more than 6 MP. It's 8.3 MP to be precise, while Stock cam 2604x4624 in 16:9.

No hardware limitation, we just need a good GCam port.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
Good news guys. BSG released a GCam and Poco x3 is supported. It's in alpha right now and cam preview is frozen (there is an exclusive version that you can get if you donate, that fixes this problem). It's based on the newest GCam 8 ! We should get the fix in the next version. Current version is very bare bones, but hopefully we will witness it mature with much more features, as GCam 8 just got released.

Check for updates every 3-4 days on this link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Black_ice_Spain:
Surfer published mjl 5.0 miniqueta, that one takes photos at the same resolution than stock
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] alirazaagha:
We Android users are too concerned about updates rather than workability of Gcam. X3's built and camera setup is very much identical to X2. Hence, Gcam for X2 are supported by our devices. I tried all new updates and found them to have paint sort of results in all scenarios. After trying all of them, I gave a try to stable build by sannn111ty which is based on Gcam 6.2. And, I found crisper pictures and more polished video captures without tinkering with a whole bunch of settings. Give this one a try and you will like the results.

https://xdaforums.com/poco-x2/themes/port-modded-google-camera-hdr-night-t4068701/amp/
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Gowcoizer:
You are quite right my friend. Back then when I firstly discovered 6.2 for Poco F1 I was impressed and made my best pictures, after that I was chasing the latest update and the true is the results got worse. Now for Poco X3 I am again looking for beat version to fit (mainly to work with all the cameras) and lost in the info
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Skeuomorphic:
We'll just wait until arnova gets his hand on the poco x3 and will build the gcam8 specifically our device
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Gowcoizer:
And it will be possible to utilize 64mp sensor?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] rudix78:
As far as I know Poco X3 has 16MP main sensor. Advertised 64MP is just ... advertisment.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
IMX 682 is an actual 64MP sensor. But, the default output is 16MP, bcs it does pixel binning which takes 4 smaller pixels and reads them as 1 larger pixel. 64/4=16

Its so good that its almost pointless to take 64MP in the stock cam app, because the difference is very small at best, but the file size is much larger.

The sensor is basically the same as IMX 686 (a sensor used in a lot of flagships, and poco x2 also), with only difference being it cant do 4k 60fps. But pocos chipset isnt rly capable of that in the first place, so no loss there.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Gowcoizer:
As far as I know many people speak things they don't know but easily start the sentence with "as far as I know" and then dump some whatever lazy info. It is 64mp sensor.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
Another good gcam to check out on poco x3

https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1457/

My xml for this gcam ...https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-hyD26tDa1xQkfDyLF9b3LgDuLrds0dT/view?usp=drivesdk
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Gowcoizer:
Does anybody know if ultra wide camera has fixed focus? Or mine just not working
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] SkaboXD:
Patiently waiting for Arnova8G2 version 8 of GCam
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
I was a promoter of the fundraising to get pocox3 to arnova and I contributed personally. The order of the phone has already been made and will arrive in about seven days ... We are in the hands of the best developer for gcam ... Let's be patient and we will have an exceptional port.

Already the first beta built with only the logs that we have provided has excellent results.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] SkaboXD:
Amazing photos!

Do you know if 64MP mode can be enabled in future like Magisk module or something for GCam as I would love to compare it to my Nokia 808 Pureview in term of details.

And btw. thanks for your contribution.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
Your first link doesnt work.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
I have changed the link, check again.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
For 64mp I can't tell you. But in any case it would be fake 64mp. Sensors built for pixel binning no longer perform when used at full resolution. It only increase the weight of the files increases but in quality there is little or no gain
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Paraglider1982:
You're trying to access a temporary link. Please visit the website

Doesn't work
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1457/

Check again
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Fertolmo:
Why does the selfie in portrait mode take 5 megapixels when the camera is 20 megapixels?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] SkaboXD:
Same thing here, but in every mode in selfie.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
Hypercam HCGCam_7.3.018_V1.1.apk with google awb turned off has produced the best results so far for me. I urge others to try it and share their opinion.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] SkaboXD:
I have a different opinion about AWB. AWB usually gave me more natural color reproduction than stock kamera, and that's just not the case for this device, it's for every device i tried. It can oversaturate colors sometimes, but it's not a big deal.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] lmulli:
I took a series of photos yesterday using the stock camera, GCAM 7.4 from Nikita and GCam 8 from BSG. The stock camera was more than able to produce images good enough for me. Not sure what GCam brings to the party to be fair that the stock camera doesn't. Be interesting to hear people's thoughts.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] rudix78:
If you decide to de-google or at least debloat your phone installing custom rom you will no longer be able to use xiaomi camera. You need some kind of replacement. Gcam is unified so when you change your phone brand you can still use the same gcam (customised for that device). So for me it is ultimate solution as I no longer have access to stock cam. I don't really care whether it is better than stock or not. I'm as much interested in pictures quality as in video quality. I don't care about 64MP AI marketing stuff (as some users angrily responded to my claim that it's practical application is 16MP).
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
Gcam pros:

Better detail

Better hdr effect especially in potraits

Better low light performance

Stock cam pros:

Better skin tones

Better white balance and color accuracy

Better highlight clipping control in night mode but overall gcam is better

Much faster photo processing

Verdict: stock camera has gotten so much better. I remember when difference was night and day with gcam on redmi note 7. But still properly developed gcam for poco x3 may futher improve the results.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] yusoffb01:
Thanks surferbyter. By using your xml and limiting iso to 500, I can take good quality landscape at night with no noise
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
It is objectively safe and established by countless tests that a gcam with the right settings greatly exceeds the performance of the stock camera. Those who say the opposite do not ask if the gcam they tried is well set up because I repeat countless comparisons give certain proof that the performance of the gcam is better than the stock camera. Then everyone does as he wants.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] pnin:
[MENTION=535433]surferbyter[/MENTION]:

Not to nitpick, but that second snap wasn't made with PX3NFC stock cam, was it?

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[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] propi62:
i reverted back to stock firmware because of some missing features in gcam with custom roms. (video stabilization, etc)

the quality of the poco x3 stock cam is nearly the same like gcam. i had other xiaomi phones with very bad stock cams. (mi max 3 / mi a3 / redmi note8)

also the stock cam replacement (anxcamera) for custom roms has some missing features.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
Is the stock camera of the pocox3 on the miuimix. The label identifies it as redmi note 9s ...
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] rudix78:
To both pictures are good quality. You really cannot immediately say that one is better that the other. So finally you have to judge based on your personal feelings. I like more picture on the right (stock), but only after long staring, thinking, analysing and guessing. But the deal breaker is safety and privacy impossible to achieve on MIUI, spying, tracking, ads, etc.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Segamalaga:
Excuse me for the offtopic but, what rom is miuimix?

Thanks in advance
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] fun4357:
I'm using Urynx05's GCam, so far working great, no much configurations needed.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Alin45:
Are you sure that miuimix handles camera as well as stock rom? If it identifies camera as redmi note 9s it's there a high probability that rom uses this phone's vendor ported somehow (as it's known that miuimix uses chinese vendors in it own builds....or Poco X3 doesn't have such vendor).

And a off topic question too (just curiosity :)): what features offers miuimix others than xiaomi.eu does?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
The miuimix, is a porting of the miui china and eu, precisely mix. It is almost completely similar to the Miui Global but has many xiaomi services blocked and lighter in consumption and a little more performing. As for the identification of the phone, I can't tell you exactly why it is detected as redmi note 9s. I only know that it has been so since I installed it ..

https://mega.nz/file/3rwVhS7J#r58poD7XrkRYp-Jomtmgr3idms_mBF9Ja65JVNIjK14
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] pnin:
/OT

Is there a resource webpage for this MiUIMix?

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[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] surferbyter:
They have no web links. Telegram groups only
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] deepdelete:
Where I can find white balance settings, iso settings ... ?

Thank you
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] theiNDrAs:
Hi guys, sorry if someone already asked this question before, but can you tell me what is the most current stable gcam for poco x3 nfc?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] lmulli:
Not sure any GCam for this device could ever be called stable as such, however, one good place to keep an eye on is https://www.cyanogenmods.org/google-camera-poco-x3-nfc/
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] 0rphane:
Arnova has published a beta Port of GCam 8, which initially supports poco x3 nfc :

https://xdaforums.com/apps/google-c...gle-camera-port-t3862448/page263#post83917363

Version 6 based on google camera 8.0.101 only devices:

1 : Oneplus8Pro, Oneplus7Pro, Oneplus7tPro, ZF6,Oneplus8T, OneplusNord, S20 Ultra, Poco x3, Redmi Note 7 Pro

2 : Oneplus7, Mi9TPro, Mi 10 ultra, Mi Note 10 pro, Mi Note 10 lite, Mi 10, Redmi Note 9 Pro, Oppo Find x2 Pro, Realmex2pro

3 : redfin Pixel5, bramble Pixel4a(5G), sunfish Pixel4a, coral Pixel4XL, flame Pixel4, bonito Pixel3aXL, sargo Pixel3a, crosshatch Pixel3XL, blueline Pixel3, taimen Pixel2XL, walleye Pixel2
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] clipdawg05:
is there a way to use the wide and macro cameras on the arnova build. Also it seems to be crashing on selfie camera. Thank you
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] bluedisc:
Yes Selfie camera video recording for Arnova8G2's gcam is not working
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] rudix78:
Can you share what is main camera max resolution on Arnova's build?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
Multi sensor support will come in next Arnova beta version....
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] [armitage]:
New Update from Arnova. :)

His previous one crashed here with the latest Nitrogen, but this one works fine, except for a crash when switching to 4k video.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=83928589&postcount=2644
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] SkaboXD:
Same here, but selfie camera is also not working
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] [armitage]:
Front Cam seems to work fine here, just tried it. Only problem I have is the 4k Vid and well, no support for wide and Macro yet as far as I saw.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] danny_bhoy67:
Issues with latest arnova cam:

Can't switch the front facing (selfie) camera when in video mode

Can't switch to slow motion video mode

Both of these make the app instantly crash.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] [armitage]:
Yeah, same here.

SkaboXD already mentioned the front cam, but I thought he was talking about pictures, which work fine.

Well, best to post a logcat of both crashs in Arnova's Thread.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] SkaboXD:
My issue was with processing pictures. It crashes on HDR+ Enhanced processing. It outputs pictures very blurry and "unprocessed". I don't care about front camera, just wanted to report an issue.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] libralibra:
Tbh, the stock cam feels good enough to me. Am I missed something here?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] slipstreamer88:
Same, stock cam is good enough

I feel indoor photos with mixed lighting and night mode is slightly better on Arnova 15-11 version
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
Stock has improved a lot, so a lot of people arent going to appreciate or even notice the benefits GCam offers.

But there are certainly differences, such as more realistic colors (stock pics have a warm orangy tint to it), better low light and night photos (even without night mode), slightly better detail (the lower the light the higher the detail difference), much better HDR and overall less noise.

The pros of stock cam are much more modes to play with, all camera support, wide angle distortion correction (something which no gcam has yet to offer), better video stabilization (although GCam 8 might be better, at least when it comes to main sensor) and 64 MP shot support (for whatever little it does).

It bothers me that Xiaomi doesnt actively work to further improve stock cam, as we know the hardware is capable enough, while GCam modders are working on making gcam even better for our phone.

For these reasons, I use GCam as my primary tool, and stock only when I need something specific I mentioned above.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] reemar:
When kernel source will be release, an even better gcam expected? Or that there is not connection between camera and kernel source??
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] alwifachlurrohman:
Hey, can i get that without root the system?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Alin45:
Yes.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] gia2efarmoges:
Some of us we need Also the RAW choice
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] deepdelete:
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/surya-q-oss
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] farsang:
Do Arnova beta versions for poco x3 support wideangle lens?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
Currently, activating wide angle crashes the app in video, while not even showing in picture mode.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] reiserfs:
The only app I've found that allows the wide angle to be used during video is OpenCamera. Every other app, including GCam crashes.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] mikhaelpermanto:
Im very interested and happy all your recommendation what ever gcam you prefer.. but how to make on mirroring selfie ?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Lucid Interval:
Has anybody checked out 8.0? How is it compared to ngcam 7.4?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Picard20:
BSG GCam 8.0 currently doesnt work on Poco x3, so I cant test it.

Arnova 8.0 works but it has some bugs, like front vid not working, slowmo crashing the app, one of the video stabilization modes doesnt work and activating different lenses in options doesnt do anything.

Besides the bugs, 8.0 recently got released, so there is hardly any customization, apart from native 8.0 features, like different video stabilization modes, which are GREAT and worth getting 8.0 if you are into vids.

Pic quality is very nice. Arnova 8.0 supports Poco X3, so that is a major plus, especially down the line when we get more features. But I wouldnt say the pic quality is much better than a properly tweaked Gcam 7.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] stefano.t:
which configuration do you apply for poco x3?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods] Vihru:
I got today poco x3 nfc.. this is awesome.. i also had poco f2 pro, i almost think this is better but camera is good question , do you use stock or what gcam? like other said, stock is quite good also..