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[FYT Android Head Units] KDPD:
Hi.

Could you please elaborate about units being the same. I got something that matches mentioned units baseband and build number. It is also an UIS7862 with 3gb ram.

Is it same unit and I can search for ROMs based on those three informations? Current UI is ...weak, you can't confirm wallpaper change or do anything on home screen. Atm I'm using different launcher but thats not allowing me to setup canbus properly. Thank you in advance.
[FYT Android Head Units] gamer765:
As long as your MCU doesn't say TS10 in it, you can flash any UIS7862 ROM on your radio unit . You just need to change the fyt Id in fyt.prop to match your current id before flashing otherwise you will get a red inscription about I'd not matching.
[FYT Android Head Units] Flockrock:
I recently got this unit and it works pretty fine for me, but does someone have a link to the newest firmware with the new UI? I have the old ugly looking launcher. Also it lacks an option to turn of blackscreen on reverse gear and I hope for that option to be added on a newer firmware version.

I'd like to have the firmware with this launcher: https://www.joyingauto.eu/joying-10...6-car-stereo-built-in-dsp-gps-navigation.html

Is this possible?

If not I'd just have the link to the newest version. The links I found seem a bit old to me (march 2021).

Is it possible to use the darkmode of android 10? Why is it not an option?
[FYT Android Head Units] peschka:
I have the exact same question.

Bought brand new https://www.joyingauto.eu/joying-10...g-and-play-head-unit-1920x1200-hd-screen.html

But mine is also with the old UI :(
[FYT Android Head Units] Xenocea:
I managed to find a Netflix version that works perfectly fine on my unit a few days ago. 🙂

Got Disney Plus working as well.
[FYT Android Head Units] toecheese:
The blue wire is for a power antenna, Note that on my car, which has an antenna amplifier unit, the blue wire did not properly power the antenna amp because it only puts out 10.6V, not 12V. So I was getting terrible radio reception. Once I ran my switched 12V power to the antenna amp instead of that blue wire, my radio reception started working fine.
[FYT Android Head Units] toecheese:
Does anyone know if the July firmware update solved the Google account issue? I know users of the previous firmware release were complaining that it broke their google account sync so I've been afraid to try it.
[FYT Android Head Units] toecheese:
Wondering if anyone has found workarounds for some of my gripes with this unit (JY-HQS01N4G-2):

Displays completely wrong time when not connected to the Internet.

No voice dialing.

Incoming calls appear in an almost unreadably small font and also do not show names of caller even if the person is in your phone book.

Mic very hard to hear by person you are calling (I have mine mounted in the upper left corner of the windshield).
[FYT Android Head Units] CCJ22:
Well crap. I tapped that wire to use it as my power on wire for the amp. It works. My amp turns on & off with the headunit.

@toecheese how could I test that wire to make sure my amp is getting 12v and not 10v?
[FYT Android Head Units] CCJ22:
The time also is weird on my unit.

Voice dialing does not work on my unit.

Incoming calls don't even display on my unit (I don't use Bluetooth I use the 4g sim card TMobile so my unit has its own number sperate from my phone. I wish Joying would have given us vanilla Android instead of this locked down version that doesn't allow notifications in the notification panel at all no matter what the app.

My mic 🎤 is ok as long as I'm going 0mph. But I also own a Jeep and the interior are notoriously loud in there when driving.
[FYT Android Head Units] toecheese:
Test the output voltage of that wire with a DC Multimeter.
[FYT Android Head Units] War-Rasta:
Is there any difference (besides the form factor, of course) between getting a single din or a dual din version of these? I'm thinking of getting one of the new units (the ones that have 6GB of RAM and 128GB of storage) for my 2008 Ford Explorer.

I believe with the PX6 units some people were having heat problems on single din devices, so I'd like to know if there might be a similar situation here.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bob_Sanders:
Doesn't matter. It's just a trigger wire. The amp does not use the trigger wire as ANY part of its supply voltage. In fact the amp's trigger system is completely isolated from the rest of the amp. If your amp is triggering on 10volts then leave it. No harm done.

There SHOULD already be a proper amp trigger wire on the back of your joying though and the blue one is not used on the jeep... is there not? An ornage/black wire? An AMP trigger wire is pretty much standard on any head unit. It should be there.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bob_Sanders:
Yeah, the blue wire is simply a trigger wire for a power antenna (not to be confused with an amplified antenna). It's a motor driven antenna which extends/contracts when the head unit is powered on/off. These kinds of motor driven antennas can be found in Cadillacs and other such vehicles.
[FYT Android Head Units] CCJ22:
On the 11.6" Joying single din I have, it has not overheated and that's even in direct sunlight this past summer (I have a transparent roof on my Jeep Wrangler)

However, you don't want to touch the screen for more than a second because the screen gets very hot when on when it's 106 degrees inside the Jeep.

Hi Bob! Yes sir that's true. I saw the same diagram you posted in my box. The problem I ran into was that my black orange amp wire comes out of the single din headunit harness & it runs into the other harness that plugs into the jeeps radio factory harness behind the dash but also splices into yet another harness that also fits in the same factory radio plug.

I think Joying did this for those Jeep JKs that come with the alpine system & (like mine) without it.

When I tried both harnesses from Joying one harness would let my speakers work the other harness would not let my speakers work. So I'm guessing the one that would not let any sound come out of my speakers was for a Jeep Wrangler that came with the Alpine system.

But with that aside, I didn't feel comfortable cutting the black orange wire and splicing into it because I'm new to car audio and I just didn't have that type of confidence. When I tried the blue wire that was labeled ANT my amp powered on and I just left it at that.

Good to know that the amp doesn't need 12 volts from the turn on lead. That makes me feel a lot better that I don't have to go back in there to resolder from the blue wire onto the black orange wire.

Cheers for that info @Bob_Sanders

Side note for others interested in seeing the backup camera while in drive.

I made a video
[FYT Android Head Units] mastrv:
Some antennas, other than the ones that extend and retract, require power as well. I think some/many of the VW line require power for their antenna as well as my North American 2012 Kia Sorento SX. I think it's for an amplifier/signal booster that's in the base of the antenna. I know my harness had one for the antenna and also by looking at the schematic for my car. I use the amp wire to provide power to the fans that I added to the back of my unit. When it's cold/winter, I turn the fans off from the settings' AMP control.
[FYT Android Head Units] War-Rasta:
Thanks for your reply. I'll get a double din unit then. I live in the caribbean, so it gets really hot around here all year long.
[FYT Android Head Units] philfromsouth:
Hello,

i have an OWNICE C500+ octa on my car, works well but android 6. I would like to buy this Joying 10.1 for my seat ALHAMBRA,

But seeing problems described on this forum..

And on my ownice C500+ i have direct phone call using 4G SIM card (with a specific phone numer) and on this JOYING only bluetooth access.

Other problems before i take the decision?

Great day !

Philippe
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
Hello,

Can this unit be connected to adb on pc with the male (A) to male (A) usb cable. I am trying to do this, with usb debugging turned on, but nothing happens, no message on the unit screen, no device detection on the pc side.

any idea?
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
I was able to connect the ADB using the cable. In the developer settings, there is an additional menu (three dots in the upper right corner) in which there is a usb to PC connection setting. When clicked, two options appear in Chinese. You have to choose the second one. Additionally, of course, you have to enable usb debugging.
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
another question.

Can anyone confirm that these units output 12V supply to the antenna amplifier through the antenna socket?
[FYT Android Head Units] Bob_Sanders:
They do not. As with most head units they are standard antenna sockets.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bob_Sanders:
Double post
[FYT Android Head Units] christan:
Does anyone have a direct comparison of those CPU units? According to Antutu benchmarks, PX6 is slightly ahead, but in reality I would assume the UIS7862 is ahead because it is also using a newer GPU?
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Antutu benchmarks? Most of the Android devices are tuned for Antutu. If an Android version detects that Antutu is running, it pushes everything to the highest levels.

Also all those Chinese head units be it TS, FYT or MCE or whatever. Decompile their code, search for Antutu, et volia.

Geekbench is only slightly more reliable.

Those geekbench and antutu benchmarks test an android phone or head unit on a number of specific things like CPU and GPU integer or floating point computations, or RAM and "disk" I/O, but these are more or less "SILO" measurements: testing one thing instead of the whole user experience. Next to that: such a CPU or GPU integer or floating point calculation only shows the theoretical performance of it under perfect conditions. Not when running 10 services or programs at the same time.

Why are these benchmarks so popular?: Download, click a button, and yes: it gives you a number which is higher on "this" phone than on "that" phone. And everyone wants to know how fast it is (well, I guess man more than women).

Please take our word for granted that the uis7862 is faster than the PX6. Do you notice that in real life? No, not really if you have 4GB memory or more. On 2GB systems the memory is already a limiting factor, not the CPU.

Anyway, if you still really want to look at comparisons, look for example at https://gadgetversus.com/processor/rockchip-px6-vs-unisoc-uis7862/
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
As a new user of the joying FYT uis7862 1900x1200 unit, I must say from personal experience that software refinement is more important than a few percent of CPU performance advantage. I am struggling with several problems in my hed unit. But overall I must say that I am satisfied with my purchase
[FYT Android Head Units] christan:
Thank you both for your input.

@yegolebi Can you name some example? I‘ve read about the contact sync issue being present and Google Assistant not working with calls, other things to be aware of?
[FYT Android Head Units] christan:
Appreciate the detailed feedback! I have chosen a version with haptic buttons (precisely because I have no steering wheel buttons either 😉) and I could live with the rest.

The absolute most important things to me are reliable GPS navigation, stable UI and proper sound because the last Pumpkin unit I tried had horrible sound output (without DSP to be fair) and lots of side noise (white noise at rest etc.). Seems like it should work then for me, I'm looking forward to it.
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
I must disagree. I have measured this on my unit today (joying uis7862). There is 10.5 VDC voltage on the antenna socket. The same voltage value is on the blue wire labeled ant-cont.
[FYT Android Head Units] Gaugamela:
Which versions are those?
[FYT Android Head Units] Gaugamela:
This is also the case with Atoto units, and FM signal reception is not the best. Is there any way to fix that?
[FYT Android Head Units] War-Rasta:
I just installed one of these on my 2008 Ford Explorer and I'm loving it (huge upgrade over my old RK3188 unit), but I'm having a small problem. I have it hooked up to an amp and every time I turn the ignition off I get a loud pop from my su woofers.

This didn't happen before with the old head unit so It must be something with the new stereo. Any ideas?

BTW, the amp is using the remote on from the head unit and I'm able to turn it on and off using the option on the EQ settings.

Thanks in advance.
[FYT Android Head Units] Gaugamela:
So I asked Atoto costumer support why my smartphone does not automatically reconnect with Bluetooth 2 after I pair it.

This was their reply:

Don't expect them to improve Bluetooth 2. It's like this by design.
[FYT Android Head Units] biggy238:
I'm making an assumption here so go easy on me. I just ordered an 11.6" unit with the intent to turn the screen to portrait mode for a custom install. Would any of you have a model with rotating screen that could open it and photo where the the cable for the servo and sensor/switch that control rotation connect to the board?

I'm in hopes that the socket on the board can be jumpered to trigger the UI to rotate. I know that assumes that the firmware is the same in this respect across multiple models. Even if it isn't, I'm still hoping to modify the software for a rotating screen version to produce portrait mode. I may be way over thinking this as well. If any of you are aware of a software solution to get portrait mode, I'm more than open to suggestion. My 11.6" should arrive tomorrow.
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
Is it an FYT unit
[FYT Android Head Units] biggy238:
I won't be able to confirm for certain until tomorrow unfortunately.
[FYT Android Head Units] biggy238:
? HU didn't arrive. No eta on when it will get here.
[FYT Android Head Units] biggy238:
OK I have the device in my hands and it's a UIS7862. I want to know if the connector marked SPN on the silkscreen in the initial posts is the one being used for rotating screen models? I'm thinking it can be jumpered to force screen rotation.
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
I have an update,

This problem has fixed itself. I don't know how, but now navigation bar app stays active.

However there is a new problem. The unit doesn't display the negative Celsius temperature correctly in status bar.

When the temperature is above zero it is displayed correctly, but when it drops below zero the value similar to 2886 F is displayed (F instead of C even though the C is set in settings).
[FYT Android Head Units] warata:
Hi guys, New firmware 2021-11-11 has been released by JOYING.

Blog

www.joyingauto.com
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
Please report here if you notice any changes after the update.
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
They released 2 versions, one with the old UI and one with the new UI.
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
That launcher and radio app are part of the latest update on the Joying blog. Just be sure to use the update labeled "NEW UI'
[FYT Android Head Units] marchnz:
{Mod edit: Quoted post deleted}

Perhaps contact reseller first if wanting support. Have to put some effort in here.
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
The only real change I found was that now you can play the radio while carlink is displaying maps. Previously as soon as you luanched carlink it killed the radio app. It still does actually but you can back out, restart the radio and will continue to play while carlink is doing map things.

I was not able to get the carlink 2.0 app to install. I got an error everytime I tried. I dont care about wireless Android Auto though so no big deal.

The big change is the availablity of the new UI... which is a big disappointment. The original UI allows you to move or delete any of the widgets or app shortcuts. The new UI does not. You can rearrange the widgets but thats about it.

It does look much nicer though. I may play with it again soon but for now I'm back to the old UI.
[FYT Android Head Units] War-Rasta:
Has anybody been able to find a Netflix APK that works on these units? I've tried a couple but haven't had any luck.
[FYT Android Head Units] warata:
Try this version 4.16, don't update.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=78514757&postcount=1873
[FYT Android Head Units] yegolebi:
I'm confused which UI is considered to be new. Is it the one used in new snap dragon unit? Can you post link or pic to help identify which UI is new UI?

As for the Carlink 2.0, I lost the split screen function after installing this on hi res unit one month ago. But this issue can be fixed now. I don't know.
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
New UI vs old UI.
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
A question related to updating firware...

Everytime I do an update, the unit randomly wipes out some settings, sometimes its the SWC learning, or maybe the clock etc.

It never seems to do a full reset of everything though.

Is there a way to backup and restore the user configuration to avoid having to manually go through the settings everytime?

I did notice all of the update pacakges include a text file that has something like T_WIPE and WIPE ALL as it's only commands.

If i delete this file from the update package will that keep my settings safe?
[FYT Android Head Units] madmatt2024:
So you can install the update for devices with the "new UI" on an "old UI" device?
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
Yes you can
[FYT Android Head Units] madmatt2024:
Thanks. I just didn't want to end up bricking my HU trying to update it. I really wish Joying would use OTA updates instead of having to manually download the updates and then ask them which one is correct so you don't brick your HU.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bob_Sanders:
Yuk.

There really has to be something bad wrong for me to install an update. For some particular reason people seem to think these updates are 100% reliable because they must have been written by rocket scientists.

I assure you, they are not. I don't think I have ever seen an update from any of these manufacturers that don't fix one thing without breaking something else. You take your chances with any of them.
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
And that's why we discuss the updates and what they fix or break.
[FYT Android Head Units] Bob_Sanders:
Yeah... and there lies the problem... they seem to react slightly differently with each machine. Now whether that's purely operator error or something to do with the software itself is the big question, but at the end of the day it seems one software update can break 1/2 a dozen different things on 1/2 a dozen different machines with seemingly no rhyme or reason behind it.

Go figure!?!
[FYT Android Head Units] Yamarocket630:
At least Joying makes most of their older firmwares available for download, so you can always go backwards. I had to do that a while back since one they sent me (which was never on the download page) launched the steering wheel control app everytime the unit came out of sleep. It was super annoying.
[FYT Android Head Units] volfi93:
My unit does not see available 5ghz WIFI, seller told me that its not supported but there is mounted 5ghz antena at the back.

Also the parking sensors are not working now (there is no sound) I did connect the reverse camera but also would like to have the sound from sensors
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
"My unit ..".

Please tell us exactly which unit you have. And is it really a uis7862 (having 5GHz WiFi), or is it its little brother the sc9863a (uis8581a), only having 2.4GHz but often portrayed in the same "row" of units?

And why in bold? It is rude to "shout" (Read the forum rules)
[FYT Android Head Units] volfi93:
Its UIS7862 9' Android 10 4/64GB, sorry didnt mean to use bold

Also is there a way to make a phone call via this head unit but using sim card in telephone which is connected via BT? Its working this way while you are using android auto
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
Hi, I have a problem, I need the uis7862 software for the 768x1024 resolution I uploaded the software after which the image moved and it shows the inscription in red ui and mcu does not match I need software with adjusted resolution and for the inscription to disappear Android 10 from the form thank you very much. I will e-mail drstoms06 @ gmail. com

greetings Tomasz Poland;)
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
With regard to the red or yellow bar: You flashed software which has a different reseller id. Check the several posts about this. Look inside your original software for the correct reseller id.

With regard to the rotated ui: In the firmware you find a file "config.txt". Find a line like "ro.sf.swrotation = 90" and change it to 90 or 0 or 270 and flash the firmware again.

This should correct it, but will not correct the yellow/red bar on top.
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
thank you friend for the information, but before I read it I found a link from my friend from xda to the systems https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...4Ycymc/1XednQJh5-if1MvJc3QzdUI4rwaring=zdU=13 I started flashing the software from the photo what it shows, the LCD inscription popped up, the screen went black and nothing is happening, it only reads the pen drive because the diode is on, now I have a problem :(
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Your Google drive link is not accessible.

Read this post: https://xdaforums.com/t/modding-your-joying-fyt-sc9853i-unit-without-root.3974357/#post-80366981

but use the original firmware from your reseller/supplier, not from Joying.
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
thank you very much for all your help and kindness :) unfortunately I had a terrible bad luck yesterday. I downloaded the software from Joying and connected to the unit suddenly in the power supply I shorted plus and minus the display went out, no reaction to the pen drive for nothing. Now it's probably I will not save my radio because the software is damaged by the way, but now something has happened to the motherboard since I do not react. I do not know who knows about it and what to do to make the screen light up again to try to upload something. I do not know what to do. .. sad I think I already have the radio :(
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
If you shorted plus and minus, you should first check the fuse next to the multi-pin plug that goes into your unit. If you are lucky only the fuse has blown (melted) and you can easily replace it.

Then check again.
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
I will see soon and if it doesn't work, nothing will be done and it won't be repaired?
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
I changed to the same new 15 but still no reaction
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Please contact your reseller. We can't help any further.
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
thank you so much for all your help
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
How can you write to me while we're in touch. Before the conclusion of plus and minus, the radio fell, as in the photo above, a black screen with a slight backlight, was there any chance of saving it? when I connected the pen drive with the firmware and reset three times, it started loading the firmware until it was finished after removing the pen drive, the radio was resetting and then the black illuminated screen. the inscription in recovery Lcd ... and something there (I did not have time to read further) and then the black screen with backlight
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
There is maybe one thing: incorrect resolution.

Based on your photo you have a 9.7" screen. What is the resolution? Is it something else than the standard 1280x720 or 1024x600? Something like 1280x800 or 1280x1076 or whatever?

In that case you might need the firmware (AllUpdate.bin) with the launchers and apps in the correct resolution.
[FYT Android Head Units] drs@toms:
768x1024 from that, in total, it started that the google services stopped working, so I was looking for firmware and I could not find my resolution after uploading the image and then everything I described happened
[FYT Android Head Units] surfer63:
Sorry. I was wrong. You already showed earlier photos of your rotated firmware. That is when I mentioned to use the rotation property.

I am afraid you now have a dead unit.

Again: please contact your reseller.