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[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
when you made a backup of your data partition protected by specific pin or password or pattern, I would expect after restoring that backup back to data partition, that will be again protected by that specific pin or password or pattern (which only you know and therefore your data will not be accessed by anyone else), but that is not the case...

Orange fox recovery use for encryption while preparing and formatting data partition only default password, and if you restore to that partition your data, that special password (that nobody knows only you) from your backup (is it even stored in backup? IDK) is not used for replacing the default one, data are restored, but not anymore protected by your special password... so anyone close to your phone can access your data without password if you didn't use also another level of protection (f. e. fingerprints) ...

Hopefully this explanation is understandable...

yes, just don't restore boot, only data
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
So the "danger"/problem is that the backed-up data isn't really protected. Is that what you're saying?

But the main thing is that it's readable/accessible and usable. The encryption password can be changed later by adding a pin or password protection, correct?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
- to be honest, I don't know about backup itself, but restored data previously protected by special password after restoring aren't

- when you reboot your phone after restoring your data (previously protected by special password known only to you in that exact time when you created backup) Android will show you only lock screen that can be swiped away and start your launcher with direct access to your data, apps, photos, medias, documents, etc. (and we are talking here about encrypted storage that should protect your data before unwanted access)

yes, but the time between the actual restore and when you actually recreate your special password is the real danger here, depending on sensitivity of your data, if you forget to recreate password/pin/pattern for whatever reason more important than that and leave you phone unattended, somebody with access to your phone at the time can access your precious data at will...
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
This is not recommend because each ROM stores its settings differently, etc., so you're likely to create a mess. Data partition backups should only be restored with the same ROM with which they were made.

Make app backups using Titanium or the like to try on another ROM with a fresh/clean data partition. Then you can come back to your original ROM and restore the data backup you made for it.

That would be the safest, I'd say.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] capocchione:
Can I flash this over an already flashed twrp recovery? I want to to switch from twrp to orange
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
yes just flash installation zip in TWRP recovery
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
@jeryll My poco will be unlock this week and i want to flash crdroid and just to make sure first I must extract zip and do this: (Your orangefox of course and Im on the latest stock)

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

fastboot boot recovery.img

and here Im not sure first i must do factory reset and format data if im come from stock or first flash the rom and after all do factory reset and format? Thanks for any tips and so sorry for noob stuff. And I forgot about Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt should I flash it too or with Orangefox its not needed. Once again Im so sorry and thank you.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
few things to mention:

- IIRC unlocking will trigger factory reset on your phone automatically, so before you do that backup everything

- using encrypted fw you'll using format data (confirmed by typing yes) AFTER you'll flash ROM + GAPPS (optional), magisk flash latest beta after first successful boot of the system (don't forget every format data means your internal memory gets erased, backup before you do so!)

- first flash extracted recovery.img from Ofox Beta 4 zip, boot to recovery and reflash Ofox Beta 4 zip again, so you wil have available also recovery addons (they're located on internal storage, so with every format data they'll get deleted, if you want them back, reflash Ofox Beta 4 zip again)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
please comment about the other point mentioned in the post you were responding to. i was also meaning to ask this.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
not sure why people are obsessed with flashing Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt and such reliquaries, all you need to flash is ROM, GAPPS, magisk, anything else is applied on the fly or directly after flashing as required, read you screen FFS!

If you really need to have that - it's built-in and you can switch it ON if you know what you are doing (don't switch it on because you think it should be on, only if you know it must be on)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
@jeryll Thank you Boss for your time and help. Your cheers my Friend, thanks so much for everything
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
new beta of 🍊 🦊 is here, enjoy!

source: Telegram

OrangeFox R11.0 - UNOFFICIAL | Beta

Updated: 10/01/'21

By @ManoloRey

🔹 Donate

Changelog:

• Fix Vibration

• Rework Fastbootd and Adb Sideload code

• Use USB configs from MIUI

• Remove predefined services

Note:

• Thanks to @MrYacha and @DarthJabba9 - Source Development
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Howell:
So far so good. Will try adb sideload and report.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
@jeryll Formal question bro, did MTP works in your OF (visible phone in windows when Im in recovery) after format data of course. Im asking because I dont have microsd and if doesnt work i need to buy something quick. Thanks for info and for everything as always.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
MTP should work, (but always have ready some kind of backup (i.e. micro sdcard) in case of Murphy's Law decide to be active when you least expect it), but since there is gazillions of combinations of SW, HW and local weather - nothing is guaranteed.

Don't forget this SW is AS IS, no guarantees whatsoever, if it serves you - good, if not - sorry.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
thanks for this:

OrangeFox-R11-Unofficial-Beta-surya-10-01.zip (48,932,297 bytes)

MD5: 6e35f2aedc8a11621bd490dec12dc6db

SHA1: 0e4350c6e7565c2b98ae6b665b93153c6b84563b
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Pinage:
Can point me to the telegram channel so I can join too?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] iakoboss7:
thanks for that, but can I ask whats the difference with the one at the 1st post of the topic?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
In case you missed the Changelog section of my post, here it's again:

Changelog:

• Fix Vibration

• Rework Fastbootd and Adb Sideload code

• Use USB configs from MIUI

• Remove predefined services
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] XtraWater:
Does somebody tested this? I want to update from Resurrection gapps version to latest vanilla and they request Clean flash. Before I anyway I'm going to lose everything I could try this.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
@jeryll so brother Im already on Crdroid, everything was good with OF. Really thank you for support this device and your every work. Anyway you should create maybe your own group on Telegram for chat about your OF only, and I wish you to became official maintainer for OF soon or later.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
Ok, so let me be clear about something ... i did not compile 🍊🦊 recovery for POCO X3 NFC. That guy is @ManoloRey as clearly stated on posts about updates (posted by me as found on Telegram). All glory, thanks and possible donations belongs to him.

Since he decided not to create new specific thread about (old was locked by xda admins because was violated some xda rules about Telegram links) Orange Fox recovery on xda for whatever reasons and only posting updates on Telegram, I am re-posting them here, so people who can't/won't use Telegram have access to IMHO best recovery for our phone.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
Yea you're awesome for that! Still need to thank you a lot for going out of your way to post them (I personally can't find any of those telegram groups so..uh)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Yoohis:
Same cant find it ;^;
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
Please allow me (once again) to voice my opinion. What is this with using social media apps for a tech thread? Telegram? Seriously? Let's put it on tiktok as well.

Keep the internet open!

XDA can be searched by anyone, with or without an account. Let's keep this forum going, and not move tech support to a platform that is controlled by a single entity.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Yoohis:
I would rather all the info be here too but xda is a thread/fourm and not really a place where you can chat quickly
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
You can PM someone if it's personal.

On messenger apps you get drowned out in a torrent of pointless comments. No moderation, plenty of insults. I would rather all the developers/maintainers came back here to release and offer support.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
I agree, I'm also one of those people who aren't particularly comfortable in giving out their phone number...Irony is though, I gladly gave it to whatsapp. (But I think you get me here)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
true that. i hope @ManoloRey takes note. also, hoping @jeryll continues to update this thread with relevant info he gathers from ManoloRey's(?) telegram channel. (he seems to be the only one here who has access to that channel.)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] pnin:
Pardon the off-topic, but looks like you're OK with giving your number to a company owned by a guy who will gladly sell it to any third parties he finds (Mark Zuckerberg) but reluctant to give it to this other guy who exiled himself from his native country rather than relent to giving the government access to his platform (Pavel Durov). Excuse me if I don't follow you on this.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
I got another question real quick.

Do I have to Flash the fw everytime I switch custom rom (Right now my Phone is on firmware 12.04 (old stock, bootloader unlocking in 3 days by the way))

For example, if I flashed RR 8.6.5 changed my mind...

And want to flash EVO X, do I have to flash the fw again?

Thanks!
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
I don't want to give my personal phone number to any more platforms, is what I mean, and if possible try my best to avoid it in general. (It's also a hassle to be juggling around on multiple platforms)

And I can gurantee you, I'm definitely, after being made aware of it, not comfortable with handing over my data to big old facebook.

The comment "The Irony is, I gladly gave it to whatsapp", would be better if I added "back then"

Excuse the off-topic as well.

Hope it cleared my perspective up for you! :D
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
Nah, if it boots, leave it, in case you'll find some weirdness, like WiFi not working, Bluetooth, or weird sound, etc you can try another fw, of course, for 100% working ROM is always good to follow dev recommendation in OP check this mini guide
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
Thanks man
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
just an fyi: used this recovery to go from 'RR v8.6.5 of 27-dec' rom (a10, 05-dec security patch) to 'crDroid v7.2 of 11-jan' rom (a11, 05-jan security patch).

what i did:

[*]disable security (pin and fingerprint)
[*]boot into recovery
[*]wipe cache & dalvik-cache
[*]backup boot and data partitions
[*]wipe data
[*]flash rom
[*]boot into rom
[*]verify things worked
[*]boot back into recovery
[*]restore data
[*]flash nikgapps (a11), magisk v21.2
[*]boot into rom

also running gravitybox for a11 with riru v23.1, edxposed manager v4.5.7 and edxposed v0.5.1.4._4655 (yahfa). all good as far as i can see. updated rom to 14-jan build. i think the built-in anx camera is good.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
Impressive! I think I tried a direct move between RR <-> CR (they are related, after all), but found that some settings didn't work. Please test and confirm.

Were you encrypted on RR?

Was your internal storage backed up and restored?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] XtraWater:
I'll try it this weekend. Will report how it was going. However, I'll stay on RR A10.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
Yes, please let us know.

I, too, think Android 11 hasn't been hacked properly yet (Magisk, edXposed, etc.). It really doesn't improve much on 10, other than some fancy notification settings that custom ROMs provide anyway.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Abdullah.Csit:
Can I Install It by flashing it on TWRP ?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
if you mean 🍊 🦊, then yes
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
yeah, some settings didn't work; had to set them again. i suppose that was to be expected. and, i miss 'slim recents'.

yes. and recovery says i am still encrypted.

i didn't attempt backing up internal storage.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] XtraWater:
@temporarium

@jeryll

Done. I followed the steps above. Installed latest RR rom and restored data. Everything is here. And everything seems to work. Slim Recent is fine too. No errors. Amazing.

Instead of nikgapps I installed OpenGapps micro. But from my understanding it seems it was not necessary since I restored data anyway.

Is there any kind of caveat with this procedure? It seems to be too perfect.

My intention to try this was only to update RR gapps version to vanilla without losing data. The only thing what I have to do again are fingerprints and and setup some banking apps.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
thanks for the detailed information, as I said already somewhere else, the more different is the ROM you are restoring data backup to, the more likely is that the restore will fail... you'll see that almost immediately after reboot when you'll start getting force-closes... if everything works, good, don't scratch it, I am glad it worked for you just fine...
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
So, now that you are on CR 7.2 (A11) what's your opinion in comparison with RR (A10)?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] XtraWater:
No, I'm still on RR 8.65 A10. After I got my Poco, I installed RR 8.6.5 (fw 12.0.4) from 12 December 2020 . This version had gapps included. Then the 27 December 2020 Update came out but only vanilla and clean install (format data) is required. Some users tried to dirty flash the update but the phone then didn't boot anymore.

The maintainer won't publish any gapps version in the future.

So I only wanted to update to the latest version and fw 12.0.7, but didn't want losing all my settings and data since I spent many hours to set the phone up. Future updates can just be flashed without format data.

For myself I think it's too early for A11. For the same reasons you mentioned in post #128. RR A10 runs rock solid and all apps incl. edXposed, Magisk, tasker profiles working just fine.

Hope that makes sense :)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
Yes, it does. It's just that @m0han installed CR 7.2 and you "followed his steps", which made me think you're on CR well. 👍🏻
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
you're right. can't beat RR for customisation options. on crD v7.2 i get by with gravitybox. like i said, i miss 'slim recents' and maybe a few other minor features. but, crD is A11 and i like to be on the latest, if/whenever i can. i have downloaded roms Bliss and Arrow (both A11); haven't yet got the opportunity to flash them, though.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] XtraWater:
I too prefer slim recent. There is one thing may be you recognized as well even though it's hard to reproduce it. I mapped lonpress back button with 'last app' in RR settings. Then when I use that button to switch between apps and at the same time splitscreen is active, the screen getting dark and it looks the ui has crashed. After 2 seconds it's back.

That doesn't happen with the default recent view.

I tried to log it. But it happens not often. So, hard to catch. Both RR version I tried are affected.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] _phk_:
would it be possible to include this Patch into OrangeFox? It fixes decryption of encrypted data partition.

It's already included and working in Animux twrp build
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
latest orangefox builds already decrypt data partition, try it
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] _phk_:
oh thanks jeryll I only checked first post to get the most recent version :whistle:
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] MarcoSXE:
Can I extract the img and install it directly by adb or do I have to do it yes or yes from a twrp?

I am sorry for my bad english.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] [armitage]:
You can just flash the zip without any wipes, or extract it and flash it with fastboot.

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
@jeryll I little bit offtopic but, what rom do you use at this moment? Im asking because on Crdroid Tunein app doesnt work so i need to find something else. Im really impress about customizations in RR but there is a bug with selinux, but you wrote its only visual bug right?
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
my two favorite ROMs are latest CrDroid and latest Resurrection remix, i switch between them often, since I don't have problems with selinux wrongly reported in RR, but we can check selinux state with getenforce and need root for that, but bank apps don't use root, they often refuse to work if they detect rooted system and rely on what system reports, and if it reports selinux "disabled" then you have problem, if your apps need selinux permissive or enforcing...
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
Thank you for your recomendations, I never ever used phone for banking stuff, and I did clean flash with Crdroid but this time with Nikgapps and Tunein works in my case so yeah, I cant wait for stable Opengapps 11. Thanks for your time.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
A11 and A10 respectively, right? how exactly do you switch (procedure)? especially A11 to A10 (downgrade).
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] m0han:
FlameGapps is also good, I reckon. Isn't 'Tunein' an FM app? I use PCRadio and FM Cube. Both are good.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
well, I was saving info about this for later when I will finish up all my tests, but since you asked and I can test only on weekends (cos I need my phone also for - well "phoning" and stuff) and since it is a lot more tests then I anticipated and I'm still failing sometimes and investigate why on earth it is not working now when it worked just before ... now I stop ranting ...

with OFOX we can have full backups of ROM and DATA - and I am simple restoring CrDroid backup or RR backup as I need and everything including passwords, fingerprints etc. including fully set up banking apps and Google pay (which you don't have to set up again) is after restore back - for this to work - you need unencrypted storage/vendor and your backups are fully restored every time up to the point when you need to format data (for whatever reason), after that you can still restore your backup and everything will be restored except password to enter Android :(

if you don't have set up with PIN/password/pattern also fingerprint(s)

- in CrDroid you will be not allowed to enter your launcher after boot and you need to reset pin/pass etc in OFOX and you will loose setup of all apps depending on password and have to set up them again

- in RR you can thanks to super feature (which need to be switched on before backup is created) to skip entering the password/pin after boot via fingerprint(s), your password/PIN etc is still not recognized, but banking apps and Google pay still works thanks to restored fingerprints

so until devs figure out how to make a backup/restore only of system from dynamic partition we can use backup/restore of full super partition (vendor, system, product) + data + boot + dtbo

you'll need to prepare that your backups will be always +8 GB big so you need a lot of storage depending on size of your data partition (I am backing/restoring up cca 16 GB of data every time so it also takes time), also super partition is not compressed for whatever reason

but it works

I tried some preliminary tests on encrypted storage, but its more complicated there and my unencrypted backups can't be used on encrypted storage, and since I am not a big fan of encrypted storage I'm focusing for now on unencrypted backups/restore
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] pnin:
I'm quite interested in your research, jeryll. :cool:

Considering the absence of a complete nandroid backup feature, would you mind putting together a simple step by step backup tutorial with your preferred moves? (Preferably in a dedicated thread...)
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Alin45:
I guess he did it already in posts #86 and #88.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] jeryll:
@pnin @Alin45 check updated post #86 and #88
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] temporarium:
@jeryll , I understand your preference for unencrypted data. It makes life simpler, for sure. However, I think encrypted data is a good thing, and the OFox devs agree. It's much more reliable now than it was in the early days of Android. And with a recovery that can handle it (like the current OFox), should be virtually transparent...

So, since the great majority here will be encrypted, perhaps we could focus on getting stable backup/restore on encrypted devices. Then, for those who are unencrypted, it will also work. What do you think?

As mentioned, a separate thread would be useful.
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
Alright my Bootloader is unlocking in 1 hour I'm gonna give it a shot with the stuff I learned here, big thanks to jeryll and temporarium and a ton of others once again for making me slightly less stupid.

>adb 15 second setup

>put phone into fastboot

>fastboot devices

>check if its there

>and run commands on the first page

>once it's rebooted to recovery flash full zip to get all addons

>let it reboot to recovery

>flash whatever custom rom I want

Wish me luck, and also @temporarium (Maybe this is a tad off-topic and probably belongs to private PM) but, I saw you on another thread "gcam", >What gcam +xml did you end up using, and by any chance know any third party camera app that can support the full 64mp? (If anybody else knows something it would of course also be awesome!)

Thanks a lot!
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] Porcupine1:
yes i use it since few years
[Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Guides, News, & Discussion] ThatDamnFrog:
@jeryll

You said you switched about a lot from crdroid and RR, correct?

Do both of them have the SELINUX Enforcing display issue at the moment?

Also with the latest ofox you sent, is it possible for me to flash the rom with adb sideload?