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[Android Apps and Games] bunta126:
Hi, I just tried your app out and looks pretty good from first look.

The interface however could use some improvements, some of the buttons/icons have no labels or explanation for what they do, which is very confusing for new users. For example, on the main list when you click an app, the global blocklist button has no description so I clicked it to see what it does and the app just disappeared off the list. I had to then figure out what just happened as there was no message, confirmation prompt or anything.

I've discovered it has blocked that app, but I can't find anywhere to view the global blocklist or to remove that app from the blockllist to get it back again... How can I do this?

I would suggest adding a special filter for "Global Blocklist" so you can see the ones being blocked and then change the block button to unblock them again.

Another suggestion would be to add sort criteria on the backup/restore page for backup date and backup size.
[Android Apps and Games] babyboy3265:
Guys is it normal that the app takes forever to just load my app list?

Using it on s21Ultra
[Android Apps and Games] playerum:
Same here, how can I unblock?

I hda to reinstall and setup again...
[Android Apps and Games] bunta126:
I found the latest version under development has many improvements on the interface and the ability to access the blocklist easily. I guess either build from that or wait for next release.
[Android Apps and Games] Machiav3lli:
Or join one of the two groups (on Matrix or Telegram) and ask questions or test the coming features.

ON the topic of labels, most of the buttons has a tooltip text, meaning if you long tap on them you get a description of their function.

On the blocklist thingy, at first it was meant only for schedules that's why it was left there, but in 7.0.0 builds there's already shortcuts from all tabs.

For any further suggestions and this applies to any sort of changes, you can either write in the groups or create a Github issue (after you make sure to check that this wasn't already spoken about in other (closed) issues).

Firefox has a sorta of problematic lock file. The problem has already been discussed and solved here: https://github.com/machiav3lli/oandbackupx/issues/373. Maybe kindle has the same one.

OABX is not meant to backup and restore the whole system. Specially considering that a lot of data (in your example pin lock) aren't really saved in a restoreable form. Special backups (including WIFI etc...) are a complicated thing considering they have different addresses in the different Android versions and OEM-Roms, while still in an early stage and have lower priority on my todo-list than others.
[Android Apps and Games] SomeRandomGuy:
Hey @Machiav3lli for those of us that get the SAF file manager warning, is there any consideration to providing an alternate means of setting the path?

Trying to de-crapify my phone, yeah, I probably killed the "files" app (despite having other file managers on the system) and am not really sure what APK it was in or what else I would re-enable if I did find it and put it back.

Even if there isn't a UI for it, can't I just set it somewhere manually in a config file or SQLite DB ? TIA...

(Phone is rooted)
[Android Apps and Games] Machiav3lli:
Not really. The system Files app is the heartstone of the SAF and Android doesn't have a replacement. SAF is the framework that gives permissions to use directories and files as the app want.

I would understand such "cleaning" (or as you described it "de-crypfying") before 6-7 years where there was pretty small amount of RAM and system storage. As it looks for now, the system Files app will be having even more power and responsabilities in the upcoming versions of Android, so there's no way to avoid keeping it in your system.

If the icon of the Files app is the reason, then maybe you can hide it in your launcher (e.g. Omega [implicit advertisment of another FOSS I work on]).
[Android Apps and Games] Fumetsu_Guritto:
Has this app been tested with OnePlus 8T on LineageOS 18.1?

Looking to replace Titanium Backup as the restore function is broken/outdated.
[Android Apps and Games] drnightshadow:
For me Titanium Backup is working under LOS 18.1 official whyred, without any problems.
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
But that wasn't what he was asking.

@Fumetsu_Guritto I don't know how helpful my experience will be to you, but on a Pixel 2 XL running LineageOS 18.1 this app works perfectly.
[Android Apps and Games] drnightshadow:
Are you able to read? Broken/outdated is a lie!! What else he was asking/talking about? Doooh!
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Perhaps it is you who needs to brush up on your reading skills? He asked whether OAndBackupX worked on his device and explained why. Instead of actually answering his question you instead focused on his reasons for asking the question and declared his opinion to be wrong or mistaken.

He doesn't give a crap about whether TB works for you or not. He wants to know if this app works on his device. It likely will, but he needs to try it first.
[Android Apps and Games] pennywaltz:
So I did a wipe on my pixel 5 and loaded the latest stock rom (11, Sept 2021). I've rooted it with magisk and installed OAndBackupX.. the app instantly crash upon loading.. any ideas how to fix this?

I was able to install the app last night on stock (11, May 2021) and back up my apps prior to me wiping my phone this morning. But now I can't load the app to do the restore.

before and after wipe, both installed ver 6.0.1 from Github.

Edit: Saw another user mentioned the f-droid install didn't work for him/her and Github did.. So I decided to install f-driod and installed OAndBackupX and it loaded. Weird!
[Android Apps and Games] doggydog2:
i hated TitaniumBackup's inability to STOP the operation. OandBackupX doubles down on it, can't use the TB trick to KILL the app. It will keep working (exception after exception), and CANCEL button won't work. I literally had to restart the phone to stop the failing operation.

My precious selection (takes a good 1/2hour) is gone, so i try restoring only few items for a test. Despite selection it now starts to fetch details about all apps (exception after exception), the starts crashing in loop. Now there's a list of IOExceptions and NullPointerExceptions in the notification bar (as the app notoriously shows nothing), and it's still restoring items before reboot. The apps don't even work and need to be fully reinstalled. Damn, i thought it's in beta state at least.

Looks like 3C Toolbox is the only tool that works.
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
Does version 7.0.0 work on Android 11 and Android 12 ?
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
Yes.
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
Thanks.

Actually, I'm using TitaniumBackup version 8.4.0.2 and it is working perfectly.

I will give a try to OAndBackupX too.
[Android Apps and Games] Annunneo:
App works great, I use it now instead of titanium, cheers!
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
Apparentely, OAndBackupX has some issues with compatibilities.

Some backups of some versions doesn't work on newer versions.

So, in future we can lost compatibility with old backups.
[Android Apps and Games] Moon_stay:
Why not support backup to an archived file?
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
This app is working as a great replacement for Titanium backup:

1) This app can correctly handle backup AND restoring of split apks (split-apk apps that were backed up and restored with titanium will crash when started)

2) Has more modern UI

3) Offers options to backup files/data that titanium could not do

4) It is actively being updated right NOW, and the developer is very responsive, so now is the time to submit any bugs or suggestions if you want a good chance of them getting implemented:

Issues · NeoApplications/Neo-Backup

backup manager for android. Contribute to NeoApplications/Neo-Backup development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
Certainly, the backup needs to be compressed.
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
The problem is about incomparability

How can I keep oldest backups and trust they will work in the future?
[Android Apps and Games] Moon_stay:
Only the data is compressed piece by piece

They are not archived in a standalone file

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
APK's and most other files that OABX backs up are already compressed (APK = ZIP file)
[Android Apps and Games] Moon_stay:
Compression is meant to be placed in a file
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
Just read the release notes when a new version comes out, and if it says older backups are not compatible (which doesn't happen often), then just do new backups for all your apps using the newer app version. Then now you have backups for all your apps and they are now compatible with the newer version (and the older backups can now be deleted). Problem solved.
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
Some APKs are not compressed by developers.

So, APKs really needs to be compressed too !

You are totally right.

It is a security copy and not a simple copy.

Simple copies are better using symlinks.

Security copies are better using high compression.
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
I didn't mean for actual data.

I mean for OLD data.
[Android Apps and Games] VD171:
APK files and ZIP files are NOT totally same.

ZIP file is a collection of other files, all them compressed.

APK file is just a collection of other files but not compressed, just signed.
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
APKs and zip files are the same. It's totally feasible to have a zip file with no compression. The only differences are the file extension and the signature.
[Android Apps and Games] conduisant:
it is possible to backup all SMS and call history ?
[Android Apps and Games] chazall1:
A couple of days ago Titaniumbu stopped working as many have stated here.

I installed the current release 7.0.0 No issues to address.

GREAT JOB. Keep up the your effort for a new BU apk

Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] thk_ms:
Hello everyone,

I move from my old essential ph1 (lineageOS 16) to a new Essential ph1 (lineageOS16, too). Both mobile are in root-mode. To restore the data I tried to use oandbackupX. On the old phone oandbackupX build a new folder within the backup. Is call backup-2022-02

I saved the folder on my pc. Than I moved the folder on the new phone - therein a new folder calls temp

so the direction on the new phone is Temp/backup-2022-02 .

Trying to restore all the data on the mobile I don't see any choice of data in "restore". On both phones I installed the actual version of oandbackupX.

Is there a bug or a mistake by myself? Who can help?

Thanks a lot, thk_ms
[Android Apps and Games] thk_ms:
Hallo,

I found the mistake. Sorry, but I down't remember the folder-structure of the backupI organised by myself.

Thanks, thk_ms
[Android Apps and Games] aarem:
Is there a manual on how to recover from OAndBackupX?
[Android Apps and Games] 3mel:
I've been wanting to take a backup of user apps before flashing an updated version of Andy Yan's LOS 19 GSI.

previously I've had zero issues using this app and had become a fan.

the 4 times I've selected a batch backup OABX seems to stall on the 2nd to last app in the list. or rather end up taking so long that I cancel the process.

at first I thought it suddenly had an issue backing up Termux, so I took it out of the list. now it's having the same issue with the new penultimate backup, which it previously backed up no problem.

I'm using a S20 FE 5G, on a OneUI 4.0 base with LOS 19.0 vndklite BgS

anybody got any suggestions on what I might try to fix this ?

it sounds like a batch only problem.

edit: just tested backing up termux and it had to problem with backing that up by itself again.

''a: Could not list the of /data/user/0/com.termux''

I checked and there's no termux folder at that location.

I uninstalled and reinstalled termux, ran the su command and granted it permission and there's still no folder there... and OABX is still failing for that reason.

again, help and suggestions welcome... thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
Could have something to do with this known bug:

[Bug] could not list contents /data/users/0/ · Issue #504 · NeoApplications/Neo-Backup

I am trying to do my first backup and after so many apps I see the error I have the status notification bar App name a: could not list contents of /data/user/0/ app directory Steps To Reproduce Ope...

github.com
[Android Apps and Games] 3mel:
I did change many of the settings in the app recently (very similarly to what the poster on that page has) to try and catch more files from telegram and whatsapp. I'll try uninstalling OABX and backing up with it's default settings.

edit: updated my rom, found that only restoring apps one by one got them to install without errors at every turn.
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
Is there any ETA of when the next version will be released?

I am looking forward to hopefully having these issues fixed (in order of interest):

Faster display of main app listing after starting NeoBackup

Not being returned to the top of the main app list after doing an action to an app when the app list has a search filter applied to it

Can see backup size for each backup so I can see if one of them is unexpectedly using a lot of storage

Can see the data size in each of the backup areas when backing up (media data, OBB data, external data, device protected data, data) so I can determine which areas I need to backup and which I can ignore.

Much smaller pop-up notification when a new version of an existing (and backed-up) user app has been detected

Better backup and restore progress pop-up modal dialogs

See some type of indication that a new user app has been detected, but it has no backup for it yet (titanium use to do this by placing such apps at the top of the app list)
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Sorry for the absence , I was unable to stay active on xda.

I have updated the main thread with appropriate changes.

Here is the recent update changelogs of Neo backup 8.1.2

Fix: Wrong default for pmSuspend (@hg42)

Fix: Disabled app's text color in app sheet (@hg42)

Fix: List item selection

Fix: Pref's slider text color (@hg42)

Add: Pref's slider adaptive steps (@hg42)

Add: Prefs' dynamic title

Update: Prefs' BottomNavBar UI
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Hi, the app has been updated since its inception , please watch the github releases/use an rss app to get notified of github releases or use any fdroid app client to get latest updates from fdroid or izzyondroid repositories.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
I see in the FAQ:

Restores the Market links when restoring apps​

NO​

Does this mean that when I restore an app after a factory reset this app will not show as installed on the play store? This would mean no updates.
[Android Apps and Games] forumi0721:
Hi,

I have 2 questions.

1. how to restore appslist?

- In tool menu, there's export app list and it can make a appslist file.

But I cannot found import list.

2. How to add blocklist in context menu.

- In main menu, long click show add to blocklist menu.

But it seems not working.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] katefrench:
Is it possible to make this Android 5.0 compatible?
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
Making it compatible with 5.0 would probably be too much work (if even possible) to justify for the very low amount of users that it would benefit.

So, just use Titanium backup for android 5.0.
[Android Apps and Games] Phillis:
Question for some backups/restore operations:

There are 2 apps where restoring the data when moving from one phone to another fails. The 2 apps in question are Google Authenticator and OpenVPN for Android. Even when restoring data, they are as if they were just installed.

Is there a specific reason why this isn't working? I know Titanium Backup would be able to handle it, but that was years ago.
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
This happens because those apps use the very secure storage area in the phone called "KeyStore" and this area is NOT backupable (for security reasons).

So, when those apps are restored, the values that were in the original keystore are missing, so it's like you just installed them.
[Android Apps and Games] Phillis:
Thank you for the explanation.

Did this secure zone not exist in android versions prior to 11?

How would one backup/restore such apps now?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Phillis:
Interesting fact:

The backup is old for the authenticator and I know for fact 100% that I have restored that backup on previous phones.

Would te current failure be caused by the fact on new versions of Android the app data location is forced onto this keystone, causing the restore to fail?
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
I don't know which version of android that keystore was added, but it could also be that previous versions of those apps didn't use keystore and instead stored their data in encrypted files (which can be backed up and can be moved).
[Android Apps and Games] adek89:
work with adb without root ?
[Android Apps and Games] Strephon Alkhalikoi:
The answer to your question is in the thread title. But to spell it out for you, root is required.
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
In the schedule when I select "new and updated apps" does that include apps that only have changed data (and device protected data) or does it only look at the apps themselves?
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
No, it just includes newly installed apps and any newly installed app "updates" - it does not track an app's data at all.
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
Is there any way to automatically backup changed app data? Like TB does with "redo backups for modified data".
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
The only thing you can do is schedule backups for the apps that you know will change their data often.
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
Guess I'll jeep using Titanium backup then and have this as a secondary solution. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
But be aware that MANY newer apps and newer versions of apps are now in a "split-apk" format.

So when you "backup" a split-apk app using TB, it will appear as if the backup was successfully, but if you ever try to "restore" one of those apps using TB, the app will most likely crash when you try to run it because TB can't properly backup and restore split-apk apps.

This is the sole reason why I switch from TB to NB - because TB can't handle the newer split-apk apps, so you won't ever be able to "restore" these app using TB.

The only way that I know of on how to tell if an app is a "split-apk" app, is to look at the app details in NB and it will have an app info chip that says "split-apk".

So, you can still reliably backup and restore apps using TB but only if they are NOT split-apk apps.
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
I know about split apks and that's the only reason I am looking for an alternative to TB. Despite all the warnings though, I transferred all my apps from my previous phone to this with TB. That's over 200 apps and every single one works perfectly.

I've already looked at NB and it says some of them (around 15 or so) are split apks. Still, they work fine. Just to make sure I'll also backup apps with NB once in a while.

What I really need from the scheduled backups is data and not app backups. Apps can be easily redownloaded from the play store. It's the data that is important. I suppose I could redo everything but that's over 10GB for me and I don''t want to put that much stress on the phone's flash memory (not to mention battery) every day.
[Android Apps and Games] andrea_x:
Is it possible to mass delete all the old backups?
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
You can go into the backup folder and delete everything yourself if that's what you mean.
[Android Apps and Games] andrea_x:
I did that, but the apps still appear as backed up.
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
I'm sure this works because I've done it multiple times. Maybe you need to kill the app and rerun it, or just restart the phone. I assume you've already tried refreshing the list.
[Android Apps and Games] andrea_x:
I don't know what to say.

For example now I've copied some new backup from my old smartphone to the new one, in the same folder where all the backups are, but the app doesn't see them and I can't restore them...
[Android Apps and Games] mythos_:
Are you sure the backup folder is set correctly and the app has all the necessary permissions?

Have you tried the classic clear cache and data of the app?

I can't see anything else that seems relevant in the settings. If none of these work try filling a bug report on github.
[Android Apps and Games] fathergweedo:
Very nice app. Needed something to replace TiB and I haven't an issue thus far.

Kudos and thanks from here.
[Android Apps and Games] B2Pi:
Is it possible to schedule a backup in advance? Today being Tuesday, inns like to schedule a backup for Sunday morning at 2...
[Android Apps and Games] B2Pi:
Self reply. No, you can't
[Android Apps and Games] doggydog2:
I can't consider TB to be a serious alternative nowadays, and i removed it together with my 13year old license. R.I.P.

I strictly agree with the later tho. I am also struggling with the idea of constantly overwriting memory with the same apps and data.

NeoBackup can't detect changes in data. So I need to choose to backup all apks and data for all apps, every time. I tried to separate those tasks. I've created "backup apps" task to save only updated apks and "backup data" to save data for all apps. But once I did run them, these tasks compete each other. They create new subfolders each time, and if there's backup limit 1, they will delete each other files.

So, I resigned and choose to backup all for all apps. I wish I could choose Samba as a storage, to terrorize my NAS server instead:)
[Android Apps and Games] hannoeee:
can i use it with adb ?
[Android Apps and Games] uschipower:
I got recommended your tool to backup and restore apps and appdata

- is it possible to backup apss with data from device 1 and restore them on a different device 2?

- if yes, it this also possible if dev1 is a arm (32bit) device, and dev2 is a arm64?

In my case, dev1 is a Samsung SM-T550 with unofficial LOS 18 Custom Rom from User Retiredtab. Dev2 is a Lenovo TB X505F with unofficial LOS 20 TrebleRom from user AndyYan.

I often have the requirement to move apps and data between devices, in both directions

- what cannot be backuped and restored? For beginners, I am missing lists what cannot be done the your tool, f.ex 32bit->64bit, 64bit->32bit, backup android x and restore on android y, apps/data/settings which cannot be backuped, etc.

I also had a look on "SwiftBackup". They mentioned that GoogleAuthenticator is an example which doesnt work.
[Android Apps and Games] EngineerMind:
You have a lot of different questions, so I would recommend installing NeoBackup and see for yourself if it can do all the things you want.
[Android Apps and Games] uschipower:
Of couse, I had done this.

But there are errors when I made a backup (app+data) on dev1, copied the specifiy backup-folder to dev2, and tried to restore it on dev2.

By this way, some apps worked, some didnt.

So it would be helpful to know what is possible with neobackup and - just more important - what is not possible.

It is also a good to know if something which did not work, is really a bug, or if it is not possible by design.
[Android Apps and Games] czerwinski76:
Hi !

I want to install the latest apk on my HTC U11 on Android 11, Lineage OS 18.1 but I can't.

Is it anAndroid version compatibility problem ?

Edit :

F-droit file > problem (bad chrome download ?)

Izzyondroid > OK
[Android Apps and Games] heinhuiz:
The IzzyOnDroid repo contains the original GitHub build, while F-Droid builds the apk themselves from the sources. That means both have a different signature. Once you installed from the IzzyOnDroid repo, you can update from there, or directly from Github. If you have installed the F-Droid version, you can only update from that repo.