yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
The 3XL was a great phone. But I've come to prefer smaller phones. Which is why I went from the 3XL to the 4 (non-XL). The Pixel 4 is a much better size for daily use, for me. So the Pixel 5 is going to be a great size, as well.

As far as features and specs...

1) The Pixel 5 has 2x the amount of RAM as the 3XL. I've come to learn that more RAM is much more crucial to having a consistently smooth experience over time, rather than having a top of the line processor. So the Snapdragon 765G in the Pixel 5 doesn't concern me in the least bit.

2) The Pixel 5 has a 4000mAh battery, which is nearly an 18% increase in capacity, compared to the 3400mAh battery in the 3XL. the Pixel 5 also has a 6.0" display, vs the 6.3" in the 3XL. But the Pixel 5 is also pushing more total pixels, so that may actually be a hit to battery life, between the two phones. Regardless, the Pixel 5 battery should outlast the 3XL battery by a decent margin.

3) Pictures taken with your Pixel 5 will be better than the 3XL. Will it be a huge improvement? Probably not. But it will be an improvement, nonetheless.

That's actually a really good point, which I failed to consider. Last year Google dropped the price of the Pixel 4 by $200 over Black Friday weekend. It irritated a lot of people.

However, last year Google overestimated demand for the Pixel 4 by almost 30% (SOURCE). They were forced to unload inventory, hence the big price drops over Black Friday weekend and again in January, 2020. This year Google is being much more realistic about the total number of units they expect to sell and have adjusted production accordingly.

I do imagine you'll see some sort of promotion for the Pixel 5 over Black Friday weekend. It's in the best interest of online retailers to offer some sort of promotion when buyers are looking for the best deals. Fun fact: Many big name online retailers will generate upwards of 20% of their total yearly online revenue, just over Black Friday weekend.

With that said, I'll be very surprised if Google drops the price by $200 again. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that over Black Friday weekend you'll be able to snag a Pixel 5 for $75 - $100 off. Worst case, it will likely be a "Gift With Purchase" promotion, in which they give you a new Chromecast ($50 value) when you buy the Pixel 5.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] HamsterHam:
[MENTION=2781818]sn0warmy[/MENTION] great. Exactly what I was thinking. Overall should be a better experience than the 3 XL especially due to the RAM increase. Looking forward to getting it.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Madcat8686:
I'll be picking up a Pixel 5 a few updates down the road (gotta make sure the bugs and issues are worked out first). The Pixel 4 was a bust. It appears the Pixel 5 fixes all the things that went wrong there. I would get the 4a but it's plastic and not water repellant which is a non-starter.

I don't like bigger phones and coming from a Pixel 2 I think the 5 is just right with more screen real estate. The face unlock feature was just as ridiculous as the notch. So glad they are gone. Looks like I'll be able to pick the phone up and unlock it with the finger print sensor just like before (too easy).

As for the processor, they are so fast these days, they could have told you it was the faster chip and you would never have known. Most people don't do anything so intense that they really need all that extra umph anyway and if it lowers the price of a Google phone, great!
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
I'm with you on the bigger battery and lower PPI (really lower resolution) to help with battery life but I wish it had the 865 chip. The processor doesn't even have a big impact on battery life when compared to the screen.

I don't care about Soli but I'm really going to miss the active edge. I don't know why you're happy that's gone when you can disable it anyways. Sometimes I like to use the assistant and make sure it's on my phone even if I have other nearby devices. Without active edge the only way to do that is to swipe diagonally from the corners which doesn't work like 75% of the time.

I'm also with you on the rear fingerprint reader. I didn't own a Pixel 4 but I did spend a day with one and the face unlock was awful.

For the camera I'd much rather have a telephoto than a wide angle. The wide angle basically useless to me. I have very often wish I could get closer to the subject of the photo but I've never wish I could get farther away.

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I'm really happy about the aluminum back.

I actually like the feel of the curved edges on my Pixel 2 XL but I honestly don't really carry either way.

It doesn't have a notch but It does have a hole punch which to me is just as bad as the notch. Obstructed screen content is obstructed screen content either way. In fact after learning that the developer option to hide the cutout that was on the Pixel 3 XL isn't on the Pixel 5 has me considering canceling my pre-order.

You make a good point that the flagship race seems to mean bigger is better. I don't even think the Pixel 5 is a modest size I think it's still way too big. I really miss the days of one-handed use and comfortable pocket ability those days have been gone for years and are unlikely to return.

It would be nice to have an actual fast processor instead of the slow 765 but that I think I could probably deal with. I also really wish they would have kept the telephoto of the Pixel 4 instead of going to the wide angle. Or just have three lenses like other phones even at the same price point.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] sn0warmy:
I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Benjamin_L:
Yeah on stock it was really useless. On custom rom you could assign apps of actions to it which was really good. I think I am going to miss it
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
It was essentially just a physical button. It wouldn't be a drain on the battery anymore than the volume buttons would is. Now there is no reliable way to activate the Google Assistant without voice which would trigger other near by devices too. That really sucks.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Benjamin_L:
Most likely due to the aluminum frame. Sad anyway
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
What is mostly due to the aluminum frame?
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Benjamin_L:
Getting rid of active edge I meant. Maybe I am also imagining it the wrong way.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Having an aluminum frame doesn't have an impact on Active Edge. The Pixel 2 was the first phone to have Active Edge and it's aluminum.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Benjamin_L:
Hmm too bad they got rid of it then. Do we know yet who builds the P5?
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tallpilot:
I'm ok with a lower end processor for less money. However as late as Google releases each year they should use the higher binned parts. In this case the 768G.

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Foxconn
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] wilbur-force:
Ive pre-ordered a Pixel 5 - based on my phone history it feels like i'm returning to the flock :D

Current phone is a P20 Pro. I will admit I would have gone for a P40 Pro in an instant if it hadn't been for all this Huawei blocking stuff.

Things I'm excited about:

a) Regular updates - Huawei (and more importantly Three) were pretty poor

b) The screen/size - loving the form factor

c) Wireless charging

Whilst I'm not too worried about the processor (I really dont do much mobile gaming) I have slight concerns that I may miss:

1) The front facing fingerprint sensor. My phone spends a lot of time on my desk now I work from home full time. Will it be a pain to pick it up constantly ?

2) Will the Pixel charging be anywhere near the Supercharging ive been used to ?

3) The Speakers - i dont listen to much music or movies on phone speakers but i do use the speakerphone a lot. Would be interested to see if the speakers are as bad as reported

4) Optical zoom - will the digital zoom on the P5 be of any use at all ?

Interested to read peoples thoughts
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mdizzle1:
My phone case arrived today, pixel 5 is going to feel tiny compared to my pixel 3xl.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cultofluna:
P40 pro should be a beast...

Pixel 5 looks like a puppy against it...

In all terms p40 pro blows away the pixel5 on hardware..

But on Software Google makes the difference...on Pixel
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Puksom:
The thing what I mostly loved about the Pixel 5 and its a small detail but yeah. It's the symmetrical bezels. It's the first Android phone having that. And I really like that!
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] vandyman:
I am happy to have wireless charging back.

The screen size just about right. If you need a bigger phone, then stick a tablet up to your hear. [emoji848]
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] akpe:
Coming from a Mi A2, I am really in for

I haven't ordered my P5 yet, but I'm about to. What I mostly like is the software, and the camera quality and features. I'm using a Pixel ROM right now on my A2 and I'm never getting back on a different UI, I'm also using a modded GCam, does the job, albeit with bugs and drawbacks. It's my first pixel so I guess I'm really in for a treat in that part.

I don't mind the processor, hell the 660 on my A2 is marginally ok for my current needs.

Last but not least, what sold it for me was the completely symmetrical bezels. Flame away but I really HATE having a chin even a milimeter larger than the top bezel. I was about to go for the 4a, but even that minor difference annoys me lol.

I'll have to wait for Amazon DE to get it on stock, really sucks that Google Store won't ship to my country and I'll have to rely on mail forwarding services, else I would have already ordered it
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonathanlc2005:
That's what sold me too. The fact it's close to essential phone is what sold me otherwise I'd buy the 8t
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rushing:
...exactly why they are currently overcharging . you're basically purchasing software first then hardware. great for devs =] and good for you too... camera sensor is the same as Pixel 3a, has old chip and a small battery, a finger print sensor left over from pixel 1 and GREAT software --awesome updates-- an unlocked bootloader plus plus. I went FE style on this round for only $416 plus some tax after a trade in with a broken screen. So yeah if possible wait until b frydai
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] FcukBloat:
this. i hate all kind of screen aberrations lol (curved edges, notches and punch holes even more.. at least notch can be hidden in some phones...). i want old good rectangular non-interrupted flat screen.. am i asking too much? damn "progress"..

punch hole and missing telephoto is what is stopping me from updating from p3 to p5 :rolleyes::crying: pity because this was the first pixel with great battery life..
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Yeah, the hole punch and no telephoto were pretty upsetting and did steer me away from the Pixle 5 a bit but I ended up ordering it anyways. I currently have a Pixel 2 XL. Updates will be ending after the December update and the battery life is getting pretty bad. The Pixel 5 gets really good battery life and most importantly it has a pure Google software experience. None of that bloat added by others. I've had Google phones for the last 7 years even when the hardware hasn't be flagship level specifically because of the software experience. Plus, the other phones out there pretty much all have hole punches too.

Hopefully at some point in the future there will be a way to hide the hole punch. All I really care about is hiding the hole punch in immersive mode. During regular use in portrait mode I don't really care.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tel864:
The flat screen, the size, and rear fingerprint reader is what brought me back from Samsung. I tried to like the curved screen through the S9 and S10 but finally gave up.
[Google Pixel 5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cicada1o1:
I've used loads of phones the last few months and the pixel is the best feeling and completely the right size for me. Battery is amazing and always good having quick updates and no bloat. Couldn't care less about processing power. If I'm going to game, I'll do it on my PC where real power is.

I think this is an amazing phone, props to Google.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Reechings:
Anyone know a way to keep full immersive mode active even after locking and unlocking phone? Thanks
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
Finally got root on LG-Velvet LM-G900EM

Here is how i did.

I know...this is finally little bit complicated, but i dont want to copy something that possibly affects copyrights or other stuff.

Here is all that i've learned and done.

So you should be able to root also.

Prerequisites:

(allways have a valid backup)

- Unlocked LG-Velvet-Bootloader (on android device)

- Installed Python (on pc):

https://www.python.org/

- Unpacked Steadfast kdz-tools (on pc):

https://github.com/WildOne69/kdztools

(Modify the undz.py: Put a # in line 26. This should look like this:"#import zstandard as zstd"

Otherwhise you will get an error:"ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'zstandard'"

- Downloaded Velvet Stock-Rom (kdz) (on pc)

http://lg-roms.com/lg-firmware/lmg900em/g900em10c/9081

1. Download the kdz-rom from lg-roms (on pc)

(this uses a special download-tool which may be spain)

Finally you should have something like:

G900EM10f_00_0716.kdz

2. Extract a dz-file from the kdz-file. (on pc)

Go to the directory where you've stored the kdz-tools.

example:

python unkdz.py -f G900EM10f_00_0716.kdz -x

(this gains something like G90010f_0_user-signed-ARB0_COM1_EU_OP_0716.dz in a subdirectory)

3. Extract the boot.img from the extracted dz-file. (on pc)

example:

python undz.py -f c:G90010f_0_user-signed-ARB0_COM1_EU_OP_0716.dz -s 40

..now you've got a boot_a.image hopefully in a subdirectory.

This is the original boot.img

4. Copy the boot.img to your mobile. (from pc to android device)

5. Run Magisk and patch the extracted boot.img (on android device)

6. Copy the magisk_patched.img to your computer again. (from android device to pc)

7. adb reboot bootloader (on pc)

Keep in mind that the Velvet is an A/B device, so we need to flash the boot.img twice.

8. fastboot flash boot_a magisk_patched.img

(on pc)

9. fastboot flash boot_b magisk_patched.img

(on pc)

10. fastboot reboot

(on pc)

11. Open Magisk and pray that you've root. ;)

(on android device)

Have fun.

BR

Mike

PS:

Be careful locking your bootloader afterwards. As i've observed locking the bootloader again resets the mobile back to factory-defaults...so all your work has been gone.

I'm not responsible if you brick your device or it takes harm in any case.

Updates: As LG launched updates twice meanwhile i was forced to patch the boot-partitions again.

Simpliest way to do the updates with root:

- Start the update with LG-Bridge.

- After the download of the new KDZ is complete copy it out of the temp-directory (to extract the boot_a.img later)

- Do the phone-update with LG-Bridge. (Now your phone is in an unrooted state again)

- proceed with steps 2-11

- Jobs done (Actual android-version rooted)
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Catrock31:
Is there anyway to get this to work with lg-G900UM
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
I think the way is the same.

Just depends on the possibility to get an bootloader-unlock file fron LG or not.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Dalomebr:
Guys, can you upload the stock ringtones ?

Thks
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Viva La Android R.I.P.:
Nice work OP. Works like a charm. I remember the pre-Nougat days when rooting an Android device was, for the most part, a simple affair. Nowadays, with A/B partitions, Forward Error Correction (FEC), system-as-root, etc., rooting is tedious to say the least. Nice job figuring this one out. :good:
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Bandetos:
Hi!

The undz.py returs this error message :

File "undz.py", line 173

if cmd.batchMode:

^

TabError: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation

Can you help?
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
Just a fast shoot before quittin the day:

Kdz-filename you downloaded is exactly the same as i wrote? (If you got a newer version the kdz-riddle would start again...as this unkdz/undz project is some years old and discontinued.)

[MENTION=892098]the 1[/MENTION]st step this error looks like another dz or corrupt dz-file. (Give the download and kdz unpack a 2nd try?)

Another guess could be that you maybe choose another slice (-s number)?

There are 2 boot-images as velvet is an a/b device.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Bandetos:
it doesn't working

maybe attach the boot.img file
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
if you check the version of python you got:

Python.3.8_3.8.1776.0

?

to be honest...dont want to take care on a file-store in the internet.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
LG launchned a new FOTA...and a new kdz.

Turned out that flashin the old magisk_patched.img (boot.img) extracted from the old kdz causes UI-performance problems if you reflash it after update.

Usually magisk-SU should work if you prevent reboot after install the FOTA and then flashing magisk in the newest app version to the inactive slot.

Failback: if you run into this performance-issues, you can use lg bridge (!!!hopefully have an existing LG-Switch-Backup!!!) to set back your Velvet to defaults.

You can copy out the new kdz during the extraction-phase of LGBridge (so you dont need to download it extra) from your win-userprofile (c:\users\username\AppData\Local\LG.....\Update(something)\*.kdz

...and extract the new boot.img as described in the first article.

Install magisk and root the boot.img also as described first.

Then restore your latest LGSwitch backup and all is fine.

At the moment im working on a twrp-solution based on the work of mauronofrio from twrp-team. I can boot TWRP (based on avicii .13) but i am only able to backup (metadata and super).

Not gettin userdata and boot(recovery). Thi is hard as the velvet seems to be treble&A/B.

...i'm no dev...just like to play lego. :))
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDuckTeam:
Either way, it's good to see that we at least have a few people trying to figure out things with this device. Honestly, I still carry my Redmi Note 7 Pro with me every day because of how much I miss being able to download a custom rom etc.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] JackTheMan18:
Hello.

I have a LG from Freedom Mobile.

Does this procedure work on their phones?

I'd like to use the dual sim capabilities.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
I did that on an LM-G900EM. (No dual sim)

As i did it just usin the stock-rom, theoretically dual sim capability shoudnt get lost.

All this stands and falls with the possibility to unlock the bootloader.

If LG provides an unlock-code the rest should work.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] BruceLee131:
Good

Very good, you are very good. As a LG velvet Chinese user, I sincerely hope that you can develop a ROM compatible with China’s 5G
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
There was no development.

In my 1st article i just described how to extract, rooted and flashed the original stock boot.img

This should be possible for everybody who:

- got the bootloader unlock code from lg

- isnt afraid to flash boot.img to the mobile

:)

BR

M.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] etx13:
I'm also getting this error. I did try a second time following your steps to a tee and still getting the same error.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] diejuse:
Hi, I have bought LG Wing. I have entered into Developer Mode and I have activated OEM unlocked option. So do I need a bootloader unlock code? Can I root LG Wing with your instructions?
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Cat_tails:
How did you get adb to recognize your device once you put it in download mode?
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] gmfXVII:
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but if it isn't possible to get an unlock code for the G900UM (U.S. model), is there a way to gain SU status/root without unlocking the bootloader? I'm sure there's no exploit to unlock the bootloader without LG code, but I saw in some other threads (different makes/models) discussion of gaining SU via fastboot without unlocking the bootloader? So if my main concern is knowing everything that is on my phone and eliminating privacy/security vulnerabilties, can I gain SU status without unlocking the bootloader?
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] ilcensore:
I got the unlock.bin file from LG.

I'm not afraid to flash any partition...

it's simply impossible to flash twrp-3.4.0-g900em-dom133.imgù

writing 'recovery'...

FAILED (remote: Cannot flash this partition in unlocked state)

And even boot with that recovery

downloading 'boot.img'...

OKAY [ 0.718s]

booting...

FAILED (remote: BootImage is Incomplete)

Finally i'm not able to extract boot.img form LG kdz stock rom
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] ilcensore:
This way I was able to root my Velvet booting in twrp-3.4.0-g900em-dom133.img, installing Magisk-v21.1.zip and rebooting in the system.

Many thanks
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
Not that i know. gaining SU on the actual android versions imho always need modified bood-loaders.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
LG/Google launched the november-update.

Got the kdz from lg-roms.com

Rom version: G900EM10N_00

Region: VDI

OS Version: Android 10 Q

Size: 4.73GB

File name: G900EM10n_00_1120.kdz

As i've read that there are some problems with python and unkdz/undz.

On my side it's working as described in the 1st article.

For those who have problems to extract...how ever...

...here an extracted and magisk-patched version of the boot_a.img
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
mh...i just guess...if you say download-mode this means to me fastboot-mode.

then you just can use fastboot-commands.

"

8. fastboot flash boot_a magisk_patched.img

(on pc)

9. fastboot flash boot_b magisk_patched.img

(on pc)

10. fastboot reboot

(on pc)

"
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
done with the kdz-version of android 10Q including google security-patch 1.november. 2020

just refer the entry from today in this thread.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] MikGx:
Sry....dont know.

Don't own one to try.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] gyhor3:
I was not sure, which firmware to download from http://lg-roms.com/LG-Firmware-List/LMG900EM

So I used LG Bridge to download the firmware and than followed the instruction above.

The Link how to use LG Bridge for getting your firmware is here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-downloading-kdz-from-lg-bridge.3504497/#post-69726756

You should copy the file to somewhere else. Because after the Update the files will be deleted.
[LG Velvet Guides, News, & Discussion] Mr.mayb2:
whats the progress on the u.s verizon verison, and do you think i could just flash the stock rom of the one you have rooted already.