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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] KURDKiNG:
Guys lets just face it, Either Its no 5g or no root, I'm choosing root, whats the point of 5g anyway lol i know its fast but still. Plus 5g is gonna be useless for another year. Ive been rooting since i was like 16 haha and im not gonna stop now lol even if its less needed now in 2020
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Did you already receive the phone? I thought it was supposed to ship in September

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They are cheaper than wondamobile but wonda pays import fees - there is like a $100 difference..is the import cost $100?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] maxpaynezm:
There is too no tax and post show me 12eur for you maybe 15dollar,i communicate with him via mail, and is different what site you use, UK, DE...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Not yet, it will be shipped 2-3 of September.

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I was thinking the same and also checking every day to see if its worth cancelling before they dispatch the order.

On Reddit, one guy from France said he has got dust particles on his brand new phone (retail unit, not the test one). There was also one other guy from the same post that report it. Also one American guy.

Yes, it seems it is not a wide issue yet, but I am a bit concerned if we will be unlucky enough to get a faulty one as it seems people from different places get it.

Or if the fault will develop after 14 days (not even 14, as Wonda counts day 1 from the dispatch day not from the day we received the unit, so in reality it might be about a week). My understanding from Wonda is that they will not offer refund after 14 days, only repair and only if its manufacturers fault. And on their warranty page it says they do not cover issues raised from temperature change, humidity, moisture, etc, so unless Samsung will admit the fault, it will be worthless sending the phone back after 14 days as they won't do anything and say the issue is not with the phone but with us. Its also unknown who is going to repair the phone - Wonda or Samsung? It does make a huge difference.

I am also a bit concerned on who is going to pay custom fees if we will need to send our phones back. Do we need to declare the full price of the phone with shipping company? Do we need to insure it? Can we ship lithium batteries to Hong Kong (as far as I know, we can't). So many questions...

I still didn't cancel my order and really want to get the Snapdragon one, but doing a research every day to see if there are any news.

Maybe, I am overthinking, but just want to make sure all is good as we spent so much money on it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
When there is wide spread problem... is seen everywhere even on xda.... i remember the time when was Mate 20 which had widespread of green tint screen when low brightness becuase of "gluegate"? It was most popular topic here. And everywhere else.

About returning if i understand correctlly if you get bad batch you can still return... of course you dont pay any duty for shipping back, because you send it somewhere in UK. I am from Slovenia and we have here poor guarantee service so i think wonda will be much better option. One time i got on my samsung s6 bad whining noise from charger and said to service guy that i need replacment... he said no problem... came back with bag and inside was same charger :) tried to scam me....

https://www.wondamobile.com/return-and-exchange
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
For us, its both as we live in the UK and HK version works pretty well ))

I know what you mean by rooting - I was doing it myself too many years but then stopped as a lot of banking apps do not work with root. I am also using Knox heavily both for work and personal use. So for me rooting is important.

But I agree 5G is pretty much useless for another year or two. All this pandemic crap slowed down 5G implementation heavily so its definitely a gimmick for now. So rooting should be a better option )

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Whoa, that's definately not nice. Even though the service in the UK is far from perfect, but seems a bit better, especially when paying by paypal or credit card and having an extra mind.

For returning, it seems we need to ship it to HK not to the UK but I might he wrong.

To be honest, I am still ready to risk it, I want the Snap version badly. The gamble worth the risk.

I am also waiting to see a proper camera review between Exynos and Snapdragon. Some reviews of S20 suggested the cam is better on Exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Internatonal
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] A.Priori:
So basically this will likely be the only snapdragon version to be able to attain root? Is this for sure? Or expected based on 10+ note HK version? Will this be ok for use in the USA (without 5g)?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
I hate to be that guy, and I understand that it is a an expensive phone, yet I think the focus on manufacturer defects at this point is a little too much...No matter what, any electronic produced will have defects... Samsung plans on and calculates this....I have been using Notes since 2011, and every year there is this pre/post launch work up about some issue, that is worries the bejsus out of everyone...Aside form the exploding Note 7, the overwhelming majority of the millions of Notes sold each year are problem free...That's where the repair/warranty services kick in...A few reports here and there should be noted, yet I do no think should hold that much weight...Korea just sold over a 1 million Notes from the pre-order..A few people report problems and that is suddenly news everywhere...There's that logic in customer service that a satisfied customer will tell 2 to 3 people, while a dissatisfied customer will tell 8 to 10...The main camera array does have a new 3rd mic mounted on it, that may lead to condensation in extreme cases seeing as it's another point of possible ingress, yet that's to be expected with a 3rd microphone...There was one member here complaining about condensation after having his phone mounted directly in front of the car ac vent then going outside...As if the laws of physics and thermodynamics do not apply to an ice cold glass and metal sandwich exposed to rapid temperature and humidity changes...Sorry for the rant, yet I think too much is made of every single issue and not much focus on the actual usage and development of said device...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
There were every time superior photo processing on Snapdragon version.. Maybe is just at launch badly optimised. On wonda i bought like 5 device already in 3 years and got not a single issue so cant speak about RMA with wonda but all works really well... So i think we will get good versions since they are working really hard for customer relationship (i think they even inspect the phone). And yea i agree what guy written above me. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
USA/Canada

Snap + Dual SIM + No 5G + Very Good chances of root ( the shortest description )
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Honestly, I totally agree and going to take the risk.

There is always a chance something will be wrong, but no risk no fun )))
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] A.Priori:
Ok thanks, tempted to get this for use without 5g in the USA (as long as I can root).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Frankly, what you can't do with LTE speeds, that you can with 5G? I never had issues with streaming music - or video for that sake so what really is the practical use of 5G
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
You make an excellent point honestly, and I was one who didn't re order my my HK order after it got canceled due to a website issue. Im kind of regretting that now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
So u waiting? for lower price for HK Note 20?

I signed up for Rogers 2 year Corp plan

$58 for 20GB + 2GB Bonus - Unlimited Calling

Free T5 Huawei 10 inch Tablet with 2 years of shared data ( Charge of $10/mo with Credit of $10 )

Note20 Utra 128GB on Upfront aka lease for $55/mo then purchase it option

I will be actually getting my Note20 today but I will sell it, and buy the HK version
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] karthigan:
Wonda Mobile - RE: Locked Bootloader?

Hi all,

As per reference to the Q(s) and A(s) posted, on the link: https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung-...-unlocked.html

It states the following

1. Is the bootloader unlockable 2. Can it be rooted 3.can I use SDcard with 2 line 4. Can the esim be activated by flashing supporting region software

A: 1. Bootloaded Locked.

2. Not Rooted.

3. Support SDcard

4. Not support esim.

I hope it is a mistake, the boot-loader should locked on the N9860 model,

until we manually unlock it (thru developer options), correct?

& 2: it should be rootable, correct?

Please let me know, because I am re-considering my order with them now.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
No i ended up buying the 512gb directly from samsung
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Guys, do you think Snapdragon will have worse low light pics/videos? It seems it is a case with S20 Ultra. Not sure about Note 20...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Quick check into the root section of the forums:

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/how-to/guide-how-to-root-n20-ultra-t4147023

Dr. Ketan has already pushed the root method. Be sure you hit the thanks button his thread.

It's dual sim, so no esim support. WondaMobile gave you the correct answers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] karthigan:
Oh thanks, didn't look into Dr. Ketan's thread, as the summary line mentioned the root method was for another model of Note 20 Ultra 5G.

Will look into it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
You mean the Canadian version?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
He has two models listed in the thread heading so it while be easy to find. I see you still asking the same question in other threads. The bootloader is locked but can unlocked via the developer option. Root is available via Dr. Kertan's thread with some additional functionality down the road.

Has anyone else heard anything about the signal boosting chip/processor on the N20U?.. I have seen it mentioned, yet nothing in-depth that I can find.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
Yes sir.

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Seems pretty damn good to me honestly
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Guys, on Wonda's website

https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung...0-lte-mobile-phone-sim-free-and-unlocked.html

someone asked:

Does you warranty cover fog / dust inside the camera. Does you warranty cover dead pixels?

And the answer from them:

Warranty don't cover fog/dust.

Less than 5 dead/bright pixels anywhere on the liquid crystal display will not be considered as defective or DOA

Now, this IS really worrying... what if our units will have fog and dust issue? It seems we are doomed?

Do you think the gamble worth the risk?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Why everyone whine over some low number error? Which happen in extreme conditions? Where is whining over greenish oled panel which occur much more freq. And probably even more problems occur. Everything online is gamble... if you dont wanna gamble buy in your local store. But for me is that only option in the safest one but will never be 100% safe. Waiting 2. September when they send it :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
The problem is that we don't know if this happened in extreme conditions, there is very little info, but it is there. The greenish issue too - there are some articles pointing out on that but the greenish issue can be fixed by update as a last resort whilst the dusting can't.

Don't forget that Note 7 battery issue also started with low numbers but as people started to get more devices, it became more obvious and apparent. At the moment the phone just launched and didn't even launch in many countries so we are in the beginning phase. It might or might not get worse and I, obviously, want it to be isolated incidents.

Look here - 2 US users report that dusting issues on Samsung forums:

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Note20/Note-20-Ultra-Dust-in-camera/td-p/1386651

I agree this currently doesn't affect all users, but there are numbers from different places and our one might be one of the unlucky ones. And we won't be able to return it if this happens and this will render our phones useless.

The same with dead pixels - now, who wants to have even 1 dead pixel on their phone?

I am still all about getting the Snap version - at the end of the day, I made an order. But I also want to be on safe side and ensure my device will work as expected and that it will be covered at least by Wonda if something goes wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
I totally agree with you on everything. But HK version is not even launched (28.9.) so we don't know what situation is with those phones... also it would be much wider spread if there will be real problem...

Also if you see you can return it without any questions with small amount of fee. If you don't have resources to gamble just dont buy it if you are afraid. I think in the end will be nothing otherwise Samsung would be in real trouble...

EDIT: Also since in XDA a lot of people inspect telephone to the limit there will be wide spread of topics about this situation....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Yes, that's also true.

F* Samsung man, they really messed everything with their dirty politics :)

I am just worried that Wonda says we can return in 14 days but they count Day 1 as the shipping day (as stated in their warranty page) not the day we have got the phone. So in reality we will only have 1 week or so to test out but if the problem will develop afterwards then we will be pretty much stuck UNLESS Samsung will acknowledge the issue publicly. As otherwise Wonda won't cover it nor will Samsung and we will stuck with useless phones.

It seems there is also another problem, at least in the UK - we cannot ship mobile phones to Hong Kong. Not sure if its the case in your country also though. I didn't check this throughoutly through all carriers, but when I google it says so. So I might be wrong with this one - needs more checking.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
For me should be no problem to send it back. Also Wonda is know for good customer support so i dont think they will do something like that. They already write response that most cases are from South Korea...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Yeap, lets hope for the best. I just want us to receive new, shiny and working phones haha :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
Ebay has them for 1100 now.

But I moved to one plus 8 pro.

Might come back later or just wait for next note
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] maxpaynezm:
link to ebay?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Per WondaMobile:

Within 14 days from order dispatch, you may return any product purchased on Wonda Mobile that arrives damaged, defective, missing part or does not match product descripton for free. Wonda Mobile will exchange for a new unit or grant a full refund upon customer's request. You are required to ship the product, along with all original packing back with a tracked shipping method. After we have received and inspected the returned product, we will send you the replacement free of charge.

You may also request for a full refund on the order. We will refund your full ordering amount plus up to £30 to cover your return shipping costs.

If you would like to return an item due to change of mind or other reasons not specified above, you are eligible to pay for the return shipping with tracking, plus an administration fee of £30.

It would seem 14 days from the time it's mailed. Not an issue for myself as I chose the express shipping and I live 1500 km from HK, YMMV. If you dig into their warranty program, it seems pretty legit and mirrors the manufacturer warranty. They are probably acting as a proxy for any warranty issues via HK Samsung. For me personally this puts me at ease because I usually buy my unlocked phones via eBay with no warranty or return plan from those sellers. First time for me buying an unlocked phone with a warranty service provider. WondaMobile seems to have pretty good customer service as well.

With the stated issues, I think everyone is just on pins and needles because it is an expensive phone. Sometimes that buyer's remorse kicks in strong, Google it lol. Yet I'm not to concern about a few issues that I can take less than two hands to count when Samsung has already moved over 2 million units at this point Gotta ask yourself if you weren't in these forums, you would be smiling from ear to ear waiting for your phone to arrive without a care in the world. I would say we shouldn't be so focused on a few issues and focus more on having fun with a new device arriving.

The Note 7 issues were a lot more rampant and widespread at launch though. I had one and barely had my phone for a week before the eBay seller requested for me to send it back. I remember reports streaming on from all over the world and it being picked up by the news immediately. A few problematic units are you be expected. Green tint issue now is something that has bothered other smart phone manufacturers aside from Samsung. Software issues that will be patch. I say all that to say this, it'll be fine. Make sure you buy from a reputable seller with warranty, make sure to use PayPal for protection and try to look at the overall positives instead of a few bad examples.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Fatmonk8:
Are these also Dual sim?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Yes
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Thank you for writing everything what i should write more detailed. I think the media just wanna jump on every case they can find so they can report it. And sometimes it seems is much bigger problem then actually is.

Reddit is actually really good reliable source when you are searching for mistakes and opinion(if you can read with some reserve and brain :) ). You will see there that Exynos is still having heating problems and battery duration but you also see on xda. And some have display burn-ins. Other problems people have is probably due to software issue or just dont know how phone operate.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224132713964

Will buy it mid September

Buy that time it will be in the mid 900s
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Finally, my local store got it - Vancouver

http://www.easycellular.ca/products/samsung-note20ultra.html

Just got the text

Samsung note 20 Ultra Dual SIM

256GB $1800, 512GB $2050

Make deposit to have it ready for pick up at next Monday or Tuesday

I have asked if he can ship in Canada or other countries

Edit: They do ship, if anyone interested - text 604-644-5331
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Did you see his ratings? It seems guy have listed some items which shows available but never ships...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] west2cool:
Best deals right now.

https://www.eglobalcentral.com/en_GB/rwhhpchhaxibxgsccjkjjosivfjpy0y5m.html
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
A new camera test video of HK version:

https://youtu.be/tAoiYQnr8rM

I asked them to provide low light video too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] sasha007:
Why are they calling the HK version 5G, when it doesn't have any 5G compatible bands for North America?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
But you can always move to HK in your life ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
My order just has been shipped from wonda... Lets goooo
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
My one too, yaaay!! Just a little left!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
I got my shipping notification as well.....Yet it looks like just the shipping label was created and nothing actually shipped....Nevermsrp does that every year, and it takes them days to actually ship the item...Can you guys verify if your order has actually been received by the shipper and going through shipping points?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Attached is what I see.

Does your one show your full address?? My one just shows Shipping to: My city name, not the full address or my name.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Yes UPS doesnt show full address just in city is flying to... probably because of GDPR. If you are not familiar. The tracking number will not work till Monday-Tuesday or when it will come in country where was label created (probably UK at least from me). From HK to UK there is no shipping tracking. In around 24hr when the package is picked up in UK, UPS will write which day will arive to you. No panick :) EDIT: Oh i see you are from London. You should expect Monday-Tuesday worst case scenario is Wednesday. Last week i bought Note10+ for my gf and label was created Friday morning in UK came Monday PM and in Slovenia Tuesday in the morning.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Mine just says shipping label created and it includes the delivery destination. Mine is shipping via DHL. I think they just created all the shipping labels today and preparing for shipment. I do hope they ship earlier than the stated 03Sep20. There's possibly a typhoon coming our way that would delay delivery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
DHL will show really fast estimated delivery so no worry.... and also when they said is has been dispatched it really was already send or is waiting to pick up delivery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Was about to write the same )) It should show up next week.

Is your one USPS too?

Yes, I live in London so will probably get the package first haha )
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Yes its UPS but probably will come in DHL package since from HK to UK will fly with DHL :) Haha you need to do first review also we need to get access to bbs.gfan if we need some custom roms :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Well it's like you said, the information just updated that the package was picked up and estimated delivery date is September 2nd... Cool beans
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Yeap, I will try to do a full review to help the others. I spent so many hours doing a research myself and still had so many open questions, so will aim to answer them all for fellow members. Custom roms are not my thing as I use Knox heavily for work so tripping it would not be an option.

I remember it was possible to root the phone without tripping the Knox, but for some reason its not the case anymore. It seems that no one wants to risk their phone for this )
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] KURDKiNG:
Why is this so cheap, does it come with warranty and is this trustable?