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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
My one was set to 5g/4g/lte, etc option
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] androidlover287:
Yes, you're right. It shouldn't matter which slot can have 5G, but only 1 slot can have it active at once
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fjorger:
Wondamobile

Hi there,

Yeah, one of the best (at least for deliveries within Europe).

I can confirm their service is outstanding (although their price is not the lowest), I bought it (N9860 Bronze 512GB) on September 2nd, and got it (to Portugal) on September 8th, so delivered in just 5 working days ;).

And all factory sealed (nothing touched) and sold by a authorized Samsung dealer "Synergy Asia" - were we can check/validate the warranty status.

Best of all, it was shipped from Hong Kong, but no customs charges (that would had been around 30%) because it was sent to their UK warehouse first, then to my country (Portugal).

So far so good (just need to get a new SIM to test 5G).

Regards,

FJorgeR
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
I'm getting confused, is it correct that as of 09 Sept 2020, no one in Europe (including UK) has 5G working on a import SD after updating phone from out of box ?

Would love to pull the trigger on a SD but the 5g issue is currently stopping me
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gavinfabl:
At the moment, that is the current issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
Do we have any UK operator inside info that this is a move by Samsung to restrict 5g device use by country/location ?

I see Expansys selling in SD's in Australia but they are being "activated" first (presumbaly in HK) before being shipped to Expansys Australia. Cant find any 5g posts from Australian users on 5g

Is a device's first activation important these days ?

Edit: It was an Expansys forum implying Australia but posts were from UAE SD user
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
I would be interested in hearing others weigh in as well - in the meantime, I would just add that I doubt this is Samsung trying to region-control the device. If that were the case, they would just use the full-on region lock, not restrict 5G access. Also, the devices still show 5G as available in SIM card manager, so my guess is we just haven't gotten to the crux of the access issue yet.

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I should add that I'll take a factory-sealed box over this option any day.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fjorger:
Well, unfortunately 5G in Portugal is still very low.

And on top of it I'm going to require an updated SIM for sure (same thing happen at the 3G -> 4G migration a few years ago).

I will keep you guys posted. I'm going to try MEO/NOS and Vodafone and see what is supported on the SM-N9860.

Status update: Apparently the government licences issuing (to be sold "auction" to the 3 Portuguese mobile providers) due to Covid19 is now postponed to October, and therefor 5G "officially" will only start on 2021.

So for now, unless I do follow the "Demo spots" going from time to time (when there is a promotion event) I won't be able to test 5G of the SM-N9860 :(

Regards,

FJorgeR.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fjorger:
Because the N9860 only has three 5G support bands:

FDD: N1(2100)

TDD: N78(3500), N79(4500)

Within Portugal (currently auctioning the following):

n12 / n14 - 700 MHz

n8 - 900 MHz

n3 - 1800 MHz

n1 - 2100 MHz

n7 - 2600 MHz

I will only have one Band support (well the other two TDD are for CHINA/US, so regardless only one anyway).

But time will tell (long wait ahead before trying 5G), so this is indeed "currently" a gimmick feature...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tribalfs:
Any N9860 owner here who successfully changed CSC code without root? Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Virgo_Guy:
It seems depending upon availability and strength, it shows all the LTE bands that JIO operates at : 3(1800 Mhz), 5(850 Mhz) & 40(2300 Mhz).

*Checked in N20U Exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
I can confirm its the same for me too. Sometimes (depending on signal and location) it shows all 3 bands combined, sometimes only 1.

So the carrier aggregation just works out of the box.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gavinfabl:
I have a theory. Samsung has done something to temporarily prevent 5G from working in the UK on the snapdragon. This way, the people who would normally import have had to buy the exynos at the higher price as well, thereby increasing their profits. Once the returns period has passed for the initial orders, I am willing to guess that a future software update will fix everything. By which time Samsung has been successful in maximising its launch profits.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
Maybe, but I'm not convinced (yet). This would prompt complaints from HK owners when their 5G doesn't work abroad - and could even open up Samsung to liability. I suspect there's another reason that we haven't determined yet - possibly related to the technical limitations of the dual-SIM Snapdragon and 5G (e.g., users who report the Snapdragon can only handle 5G on one SIM, not just for this phone but others as well, whereas the Exynos can do 5G on both SIMs).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] evenshop:
I import Samsung devices from HK, I live in Switzerland. Of course 5G doesn't work on my N9860 (yet). These 5G limitations are really ridicilous. As long as the device is geared up with the suitable bands, it should work out of the box (as it's the case for 4G) .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
Right, as others in other countries have reported as well - but any idea why?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
One should call Samsung, just say you are a tourist from HK in UK and 5G is not working which you need for work etc
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bissa:
is there a way to enable samsung pass on the CHC variant?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] intruda119:
Which carriers are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] intruda119:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/402444999212

940 usd. Shipping may take awhile but I asked the seller and he confirmed hk version. Triple check if interested
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Spets_Naz:
Hi, you imported from wondamobile? I want to buy one but not sure where to buy this fun. I'm also from Portugal :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ehsanuetian:
SM-N9860, Hong Kong / China , supported bands are

4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(850), B28(700)

4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010), B38(2600), B39(1900), B40(2300), B41(2500)

5G Sub-6 FDD: N1(2100)

5G Sub-6 TDD: N41(2500), N78(3500), N79(4500)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Abaddon:
Looking forward to buy this as well while I am at the Philippines and there's a store here that sells the HK variant for 1k USD with 12/256GB. I am located at Southaven, MS so It should be fine on my part. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dublinz:
If i Understand correctly, you do have N9860, if that is the case would you mind to tell me are you using HK or China cis? Just want to find out does chinese firmware allow eSIM to run as mine HK does NOT
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
T Mobile
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ehsanuetian:
No E-SIM for snapdragon

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No E-SIM for snapdragon
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] D_Gabe:
Has anyone from Mexico bought the SM-N9860 on either eBay or Wonda Mobile? Do they give you any trouble on customs with this phone? What would you advice? I'm planning on buying the phone but I'm not sure which company is safer? Never-MSRP or Wonda Mobile?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Let us know how you get along with that. No one has issues with warranty until the claim process is initiated, that's with any warranty.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fjorger:
Hi Spets_Naz,

I Bought mine at WondaMobile, on September 2, and four working days later I got the package (no customs charges) unsealed (delivered to Portugal too).

No issues so far. I can't talk about their warranty service (one year warranty) yet, simply because I didn't need to make use of it.

Only drawback, their price is a bit expensive (compared to t-dimension or GlobalEU), but I did went for, upon reading their outstanding score on trustpilot.

Regards.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
Got mine from T Dimension this week...took just over a week but the price was too hard to ignore compared to Wondamobile

Sealed unit

I was waiting for Wondamobile to drop their price as it wasn't competitive but they seem to be in no hurry
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Doomknight:
Great...but why no 5G?

Got the N9860 HK variant and can confirm neither esim or 5G work on the device. I live in London and have got both a 5G sim and a 5G tariff. Have tried 3 and o2 so far but no luck. As for esim, I don't know if the phone doesn't have the hardware for it. There is an “esim client“ under apps which crashes if you try to force run it. The phone is great otherwise and far superior than the junk they sell in the UK (for more). Has anyone managed to get 5G to work outside HK?

Kinda sad that Samsung went this far to block 5G connectivity.

VoLTE and Samsung Pay work fine.

P.S I got mine from techinthebasket.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
There are many with 5g working and some who havent got it working.

I'm in London, with a N9860. I turned it on, let it do all the updates, set up a few apps & accounts etc.

Then I went into a 3 store and bought a 5g SIM and put it in. This was the first sim I put in.

I received 5g instantly. Speed test returned 207mbps.

I'm back on a 4g EE SIM now but iirc when I got home I lost 5g on the 3 SIM. Vodafone website says my area not covered by 5g and I'm in SW London.

Have you tested it in a known 5g area?

I don't see any esim client you refer to.

When I go to install Samsung Pay from the Playstore it asks to install Samsung Pay Hong (Hong Kong). I didn't go past that.

You have the Samsung Pay HK version or UK version with facility for transport/Oyster card?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Doomknight:
The Esimclient shows up when you search system apps. I ran this with 'Activity Launcher' but it wouldn't run - not that I expected it to. Our phones have eSim (hardware) but is disabled by Samsung. I find it hard to understand why include a feature on a phone then disable it using software. Samsung claims that they may activate this in a future software update (or not).

I meant Samsung Pay HK. I appreciate that it works with UK Bank cards as previously this wouldn't work at all.

As for 5G, I live in a 5G area and have 5G on my girlfriends phone (OnePlus 8). I took a bus to Central London a few weeks ago with two 5G simcards; 3 and o2 as my test subjects. Can confirm neither received a 5G signal at any point. I have tried using one sim in slot 2 but that doesn't work either. I even took this phone along to Edinburgh for a business meeting in early September but still no avail. Took great pictures though :)

I wonder if this is the situation in Hong Kong. I don't see any complaints that would indicate an obvious issue with 5G. I'm guessing (hoping) that this is some sort of a software bug where they optimised all HK sims to work flawlessly while not considering the EU/US market. Some people report that their 5G works fine in slot 2 (single sim). I wonder if this is the case in HK as I'm sure locals there would've pointed it out.

It is a daft move by Samsung regardless. What CSC are you running? TGY?

Ref:

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...lity-on-the-note-20-ultra/td-p/1386459/page/2 (Post by Bamzilla)

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/help/esim-t4150103
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
The girlfriends SIM in your note where she gets 5g returns nada?

I put the Three SIM back in the note at home and didn't get the 5g icon on the right like I got in the Three shop on a main high street (Putney). (There was some talk about the 5g icon in a box but I can't remember if that's what some got on factory without updates then got just the 5g symbol without box later on after updates)

At home with Three in, Net monster does show me "3 4g +5g • LTE-A 1800 + 2100" but only every now and then and that's with no 5g showing on the right at all.

The note is the wife's and it's now her working phone so I don't get much chance to test it. It's all factory with no change to csc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Doomknight:
Nope. Nothing at all. Infact the o2 mast is 3 blocks down the road, I just had a walk there with her sim and got nothing. However, I do get extremely fast 4G+ at around 200Mbps down with crappy upload speeds but oh well. I don't think I am that arsed about pursuing 5G as 4G does the job for me and the phone works perfectly fine otherwise. I'm guessing it will be fixed sometime in the future with a software patch.

I did try 3 as well with a fresh sim. Nothing.

Speedtest Result
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Never Msrp doesn't sell extended warranties , they just sell insurance via a firm called CPS , which covers accidents and such but not loss.

All moot really since CPS won't be able to replace or repair HK device in the USA. So you'll be paying for nothing ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mohkhan:
So from what I have got from this thread is that the Samsung note 20 ultra HK version works in the U.K. You have to use Samsung pay HK rather than Samsung pay U.K. and 5G does not work at all at this moment in time but may be fixed in a later update ? Those of you who have the note 20 ultra SD have you compared it to a exybos version ? How long does you battery last with medium or heavy usage ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fizzingbees:
Question, are all hongkong versions of snapdragon note 20 ultra varient bootloader unlocked?

Is there any way to confirm that a particular model has unlocked bootloader before making purchase
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tdodd:
My N9860 from Hong Kong is working fine for me and my needs, with the following caveats.....

1. Samsung Pay is localised for Hong Kong, so I use Google Pay, as I have always done in any case. No problem for me.

2. I have been unable to test 5G as I don't have the right combination of SIM and coverage. I don't really care about 5G, but I may try to test my Three PAYG SIM tomorrow in an area that is on the coverage map. General reports seem to suggest that Vodafone has the best chance of working with 5G and EE is unlikely to work with current firmware. I haven't seen any remarks about O2 5G working.

3. VoLTE and VoWiFi are available if the SIM supports it. My Three PAYG SIM does, but that's only my spare backup (that I'll be testing for 5G tomorrow). My primary Voxi Sim supports neither.

4. I'm not a heavy user, but according to Accubattery I could expect over 13 hours SOT for continuous use without standby drain included. I have tested drain with a two hour Netflix movie and that dropped 16%, so 8% per hour for 12+ hours SOT. Standby drain is less impressive - typically about 1% per hour or a little more. But as I have 24x7 security monitoring software and smartwatch connectivity the phone does not get to deep sleep much.

Overall I'm happy with the phone for my needs. If 5G is critical to you it might be best to wait until the dust settles a bit. Firmware updates are overdue and maybe things that have been broken in recent updates will be fixed in future ones, but that's just wishful thinking right now.

EDIT : Oops! It turns out that I need a replacement SIM from Three before I can use (test) 5G. It's on the way.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
updates are really overdue now...N9860 is still on September patch. 5g will be ok for sure, but for now, samsung needs to sell exynos garbage in UK and Australia
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fizzingbees:
Are you using hongkong varient of note 20 ultra in Pakistan?

What is your exact model and product code?

And is your bootloader unlocked?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I'll be honest with you and I'll probably make some enemies by saying this. I didn't find much difference between the exynos model that I had and the Snapdragon that I currently have.

Then again , I don't game at all.

Too early to judge battery life , but operating temps and radios seem to be on par with each other.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
Yes, n9860 tgy. Got via friend from HongKong. Haven't check the bootloader yet.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mohkhan:
Hey, I’m not worried about 5g to be honest with you as I use Tesco mobile (Colleague deal) and it’s a 4G plan.

Not to worried about wifi calling as the network doesn’t support it what is volte? I sure Tesco won’t support it either ?.

I’m happy to use google pay over Samsung pay not an issue at all...

What’s boot loader and why does it matter if it’s locked or unlocked?

I really like Samsung but the only thing that kept me away is the battery life hence the reason I want the snapdragon version as YouTube videos suggest that u get 15-20% extra usage and it doesn’t heat up as much either.

Will be ordering from WondaMobile as they have good reviews and quick delivery, I’m new to all this importing stuff is there anything else I should be aware of before I do buy it online ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
Check T-Dimension prices

It's not worth paying anymore than you need to for this device that will be replaced with a newer version before you know it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tdodd:
T-Dimension supplied my N9860. Good prices, better than Wonda, but quite slow for shipping times (nine days from order to delivery for mine) and their ID verification is a bit tedious in this day and age. But if price is more important than speed of delivery I'd absolutely use them again. I left a 5 star review on Trustpilot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bocsta:
Same here. Mine from T-Dimension. Be patient as shipping bit slower than we come to expect these days:svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Old chinese proverb. Don't believe what you see and hear on YouTube.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mohkhan:
??? well said my friend. Is there anything else I should know about the snapdragon version before i continue with the purchase ???

Can you explain boot loader plz
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
It's bootloader is unlockable so it can be rooted should you buy the SM-N9860 or SM-N986N versions. Latter being korean model and single sim.

Most the information is on here. But to be honest if I was living in the UK I'd buy the local exynos model. Full full compatibly with 24 months warranty to boot. However, if you're a solid gamer then perhaps not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
Warranty is a big plus but batery time is clearly a lot better on SD version. I have SD and Exynos both in home (one is in warranty here in Pakistan) but Exynos drops too much just being idle...no such issue with SD version...just drop 1-2 % for the night... Warranty is normally not a problem in samsung phones unless abused....normally..my experience in last 10 years since Galaxy S
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Not really have you owned both fella ? I have. Reference battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
Yeah bro, i have sd version and my sis has exynos one from Pakistan. The battery is really bad as he daughter uses majorly youtube. For performance, i never see real world difference even in games but battery is a big issue. Bte Pakistan has 8gb/256gb 4g only variant..a but different than many countries
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mohkhan:
Can someone send me a screen shot of there HK snapdragon version of the keyboard. I heard it’s different ???
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tdodd:
Here you go. First attachment from my HK N9860. Second attachment from my UK S10+.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mohkhan:
Thank you... how have you found the battery on them? much of a difference in the snapdragon to the exynos fair enough they are different models but you pick up on things like this. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
There's a whole thread about it if you scroll down the page under questions and answers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tdodd:
I have no concerns about battery life on my N9860 because it appears to be decent enough and I am rarely far away from a charging source, not that I need one more than once per day. I honestly can't compare battery life on the Note to my S10+ because my usage patterns aren't comparable. I think I was getting a bit unimpressed with the S10+, but like I say, topping up the charge is never an issue for me, so it didn't really matter.

Anyway, here are current stats so far today. I charged fully to 100% this morning, after the new firmware turned up, and so far I have 40% remaining after 5:38 of SOT and 8:15 of standby.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
It's looks absolutely gorgeous darling .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tdodd:
A little update : last night I charged both phones to 80% before going to bed. When I woke this morning both were at 75%. I didn't use them much until I went for a 90 minute drive testing for 5G and general network coverage. Screens were on throughout. At the end of the test the Note was at 51% and the S10+ at 43%. If anything the Note also had a little more general use this morning, but not much.

Overall you might imagine the Snapdragon is killing it, but according to Accubattery the S10+ only has 3542/4000 mAh capacity remaining while the Note has 4166/4370 mAh, so hardly a level playing field. I don't think any conclusions can be drawn from this small data sample. Far too many variables.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mohkhan:
I’ve made a decision I’m going to order the snapdragon version from t dimensions. Seems the best option for me as I want that battery to last as I do play a lot of games and take loads of pics and videos
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fizzingbees:
In Pakistan the varients are a mess.

There is exynos version and also snapdragon.

And then snapdragon has 4g and 5g versions

And then 5g has Korean, hongkong and American version..

God what a awful mess.

Can somebody help me how to differentiate between these models?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
Its easy... officially ony exynos 4g is launched here. Rest are variants are imported. 5g is not yet there...i got sd version via friend from Hongkong as i got buds live package...vut sd is totally worth it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fizzingbees:
Can you PM me photos of your box and screenshot of your about phone in settings

You can of course hide /blur imei and other sensitive information
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
For SD VERSION, I have the box, will share shortly.