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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VICosPhi:
Thanks, this gives us some hope that there is a higher chance of a software update actually enabling the eSIM in future. People with S20 are still waiting for that update so maybe they will issue it for both devices at once, let's hope.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Fatmonk8:
I guess the question for me now is do I keep the phone and wait for Samsung to unlock eSIM in the US, or do I get rid of my personal sim and just use my sim card for work.

Or do I just return the phone and find something else.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] hechon:
just to confirm, you have 2 IMEIs ,not 1 IMEI and MEID? i bought the unlocked version and i only have the latter (1 IMEI+ 1MEID).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] d.cortez:
look at the picture in this post :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] hechon:
thanks. i didn't read through until just now. is there EID as well or just IMEI?

i guess i should return my unlocked and get ATT version. will i be able to use att version with TMO?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] d.cortez:
what is an EID? I'll look at the box to see if there's one there. not sure getting the ATT version will help you out because i couldn't activate an eSim on my phone. ATT reps said i should have been able to open the Sim Manger Connection setting, scan the QR code on the eSim card they gave me and activate a new account. problem is that the Sim Manager Connection setting was not present. per Samsung support (if you believe them) they have to push an update to enable the setting; the support person did not know when an update would happen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] hechon:
do you at least have EID in your about phone page?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] d.cortez:
no, there's no EID listing on my About Phone page (Settings->About Phone).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] hechon:
your answer may imply below as well, but just to be sure:

How about in Phone->Settings->About Phone-> Status

or Phone->Settings->About Phone-> Status -> IMEI information (i am guessing where it may be).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] d.cortez:
no EID listed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Arr6:
This was one of the main reasons I switched from 10+ to 20 Ultra was dual sim. I asked Samsung twice and the both times it was confirmed the US unlocked will support dual sim via nano/esim and I can also use sd card. Phone in hand and see no esim. I have N986U1 and one IMEI on box.

What is confusing is I am seeing some US variants that do have 2 IMEIs on the box so not sure if there is another US model I can purchase with dual sim.

Is there any chance the hardware is there and just disabled?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mr. Orange 645:
The hardware is definitely there. The phones are all identical hardware wise. The issue would be if there's two IMEIs assigned to the phone. My guess is yes there is, but I COULD be wrong. It's happened before.

And yes, it's something Samsung could unlock via OS update.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bmk007:
Hey all. I just got the Ultra from Verizon. I used a patched Odin and now it thinks its a U1 (Unlocked) model. Both under the Verizon and Unlocked there is no option as of yet to use the eSim. I spoke with a rep from Verizon who said they haven't been cleared by Samsung to have eSim Note 20's on their network yet. I can confirm my phone box from Verizon has 2 IMEI's on it. Only one shows up in settings so far though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Arr6:
Really hope this is something enabled I was hoping this would eliminate the need to carry 2 phones.

I saw a picture of a n986u (without the 1) and it had 2 imei on the box. I could try to find the true dual sim version, but do not want exynos.

I had a similar issue with the oneplus 8 pro, that was true dual sim but for some reason 2nd sim was not enabled.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] BlinkThinks:
Only your service provider can activate your eSIM. I can speak for ATT because I used to work there. You have to call them.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Arr6:
Even if there's no second IMEI on the box and it's unlocked version?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gotojanoo:
Yes with OTA it might possible
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dimsler:
Can anyone confirm that N985F/DS is infact a dual sim global edition that supports eSIM? which is also very important to me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] d.cortez:
agreed. i went through the process of getting the eSIM card only to discover that the Sim Connection Manager setting/app was missing (or not enabled) so I couldn't activate the eSIM via OCR scan.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jeremyvbk:
I work for ATT, take this as you may. The reason you have 2 IMEIs is so you can use DSDS, so 2 numbers on one device. The carriers haven't been able to get it working properly from my understanding. That is why it is disabled. It is why when Iphone launched the XS theirs was disabled until a later date.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] the_scotsman:
It works perfectly fine in Australia and other countries. Crazy that the US carriers can't get it working. Or perhaps don't want to :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] duracool:
My att note 20 5g definitely has 2 imei numbers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] d.cortez:
[MENTION=5718021]jeremyvbk[/MENTION] - thanks for sharing your thoughts. i thought ATT had DSDS working for the ATT S20+/Ultra; my understanding is based on the in-store reps comments. is the Note20 eSIM implementation different than the S20 models?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Arr6:
Looks like the carrier phones come with 2 imei and unlocked do not. Based on [MENTION=5718021]jeremyvbk[/MENTION] information it may very well be enabled at some point.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] hechon:
as a point of reference, i purchased unlocked version from Samsung and it only has one IMEI. I stopped by local T-Mobile store and asked them to look at the box of Note20 Ultra that they were selling, it only had 1 IMEI as well, for what it's worth.

So far, i've heard people here mention that VZW and ATT versions have 2 IMEIs. my last day to turn in my old Note10+ trade in to Samsung is 8/31 for credit $650), i am seriously debating whether to just return Note20 Ultra to Samsung and purchase one from ATT and use it on TMo, hoping ATT will enable it later. i figure enabling a phone with 2 IMEIs would be easier than doing it on 1 IMEI phone. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dmorrissette:
What's the possibility that the phones with only 1 imei have 2 but the 2nd one is hidden ? My co worker ordered the verizon model and I ordered the samsung unlocked model. We both ordered from samsung.com. His box had 2 imei numbers but the phone only shows 1 in the phone info, the first one listed on his box label.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Arr6:
I confirmed with T-Mobile at 2 stores that the TMO variant does not have esim capability. It seems only the s20 line does.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mr. Orange 645:
It doesn't currently support it, but it can be enabled through an OTA update.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gotojanoo:
any update if anyone knows on this esim BS lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Shadoe_Lance:
Thats odd. My 512gb ATT Note 20 Ultra doesn't show anything but 1 imei.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] warriorvibhu:
Was anyone able to activate esim on the unlocked one? If so how?

Using SM-N986U1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] shvyue:
For me it is not working after unboxing, I mentioned it in the a video review but actually a few days later it worked. No idea is that related to some regulation thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2lfLjGAMQs
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dmtycn:
Below is ICCID?

That is the EID.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dmtycn:
OK

This is mine from AT&T , 2 IMEIS and 1 ICCID on the box but only IMEI 1 shows up in the phone.

My understanding, ICCID = EID

But my phone is locked, cannot try with Tmo
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Nastrahl:
We've got the support here in France, and it's working well.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
For dual sim?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Nastrahl:
With one SIM and one eSIM at least, its working yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tainka:
Yes second nano sim will fit, you need to turn it on its side.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] rjohnstone:
AT&T Note 20 Ultra SIM tray will only hold 1 nano SIM and one MicroSD card.

A second nano SIM will not fit in any orientation where the MicroSD card is located.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] willcor:
This is how i did it ,works fine .

See screenshots

If you look carefully it states on sim tray, sim 1 , sim 2 Micro sd

Good luck
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tainka:
In tray 2 you can use a second sim card or micro sd card
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
Which device model do you have
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Nastrahl:
It's a SM-N986B/DS
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
That's a dual sim device anyway. You used the esim?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Nastrahl:
I'm currently using it.

I also used both while waiting the other provider to switch my phone number ; they have me a temporary number and both were working.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] rjohnstone:
The AT&T "U" model does not have that SIM tray. There are no markings for "SIM 2"

Look at the pics I posted of my SIM tray. You cannot physically put a SIM card in where the MicroSD card is located.

It is not designed to hold one like yours is.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
If the esim was activated you wouldn't need the second sim slot anyway
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tonime:
If I root an SM-N9860, can I activate esim?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dr.ketan:
Yes but remember just rooting itself wont activate this. It just make possible to edit csc features, you have to manually edit csc features yourself to activate it. Also you needs to make sure your device hardware support this, I know this available on N986B but not sure about your device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tonime:
Can you tell me the path to edit the CSC features?

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ebmorgan:
Here's what I've been able to gather for us USA NOTE 20 ULTRA users (this does not apply to other locales). ALL Note 20 Ultras have the NXP combined chipset in them which has UWB, NFC and eSIM. However, eSIM is software disabled in the US variant. This is why the second IEMI doesn't present itself. WHY they are doing this is up for debate: Could be they are still trying to get it working on US carriers. Could be a shady anti-consumer tactical deal made with US carriers to create a fake "one phone, on SIM" situation so you have to pay the carrier for their proprietary multinumber service.

But these are the facts: the US N20U has eSIM, it's software disabled, Samsung DID NOT disclose this to US consumers, Samsung to this day continues to tell US users it supports it, and to this day Samsung tells some users it will be available with an OTA in the future. (I'v been told this in writing via Twitter DM with Samsung support).

Now, I saw at the top of this thread that you can Odin an alternate CSC or make a single-line code change to enable eSIM. Has anyone performed and confirmed that? Does anyone know which CSC would be suitable for US variants? If this doesn't work, then an OTA is our only hope.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ebmorgan:
Ah...it was dr.ketan.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ebmorgan:
Ah...it was dr.ketan.

Doc, have you tried an alternate CSC to enable eSIM on US N20U? Do you know or have an idea of what would work? Looking at this this thread I started, you'd be a hero.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] iakeco:
So if our device is not rooted, should we then try and side load a different regions CSC
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dr.ketan:
If you have stock rom for your device, extract csc_*.tar.md5 file from it (with 7zip or similar can be used) and send me. I will check if any of csc having available it. If so then you may not required to root. Alternately you needs to root abd modify csc file.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] modernhacker:
If you PM me (I'm a new user), I can send you mine right now!

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Sent file to you via FB
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dr.ketan:
None of CSC support eSIM on file you send me.

You can root and try manually patching it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] modernhacker:
Darn.. don't wanna lose those features like banking when you root a Samsung. Thanks much for checking though!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] eric6268:
Just extract CSC file for my 986U1. When I check the optics.img, I found the following settings:

CscFeature_RIL_SupportEsim

FALSE

Could we change it to TRUE and repack, then flash it? If we could without MD5 check, will it trigger the knox?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dr.ketan:
Yes, chang it to true

It does not matter you repack it to tar or tar.md5, once you flash modified file, knox get triggered.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] eric6268:
I would like to know if anyone with rooted 986U could enable this and get eSim. If it will, that's worth root & the knox trigger for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bigoil12345:
I just bought a C$2000 Note 20 Ultra 512GB from Samsung Canada only to find out it doesn't have eSIM enabled in Canada. I am immediately returning the the phone. It is ridiculous that Samsung think it is acceptable to have a top of the line mobile with only one SIM card capability. I travel a lot and and always have at least 2 SIMs to deal with. This whole experience has completely soured me towards Samsung. It's blatant false advertising to claim it is eSIM capable when it's not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cpufrost:
Doesn't work.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] *Detection*:
It's a DualSIM phone isn't it? SIM Tray takes 2 physical SIMCards
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] warriorvibhu:
Not all. I think the unlocked one in America has a sim tray specifically designed to prevent a second sim card.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] *Detection*:
Could it be enabled with a DualSIM tray or is the hardware disabled / missing too?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bigoil12345:
It definitely DOES NOT allow 2 physical SIM cards and I spent about an hour on the phone with Telus this morning trying to activate an eSIM only to find out that eSIM has not been enabled in Canada. My anger and contempt for North American mobile phone carriers has reached new heights. F#ck them and also Samsung for permitting their otherwise awesome phone to be disabled like this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] *Detection*:
That's really sucky, I would look into whether or not just adding a DualSIM tray would enable it or if it's disabled at a hardware level
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] rjohnstone:
It's disabled at the firmware level.

If all it took was a new dual SIM tray, you would already be able to see the second SIM slot and IMEI in the settings menu even without the dual SIM tray.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] *Detection*:
Yea true, no other compatible firmware with DS enabled for that model either?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] warriorvibhu:
Probably need to flash Hong Kong or Korean firmware but why should there be a need more than that why should any carrier have any say when I am buying my phone unlocked full price. I have an idea I am gonna take Samsung to task over this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] intruda119:
Why y'all blaming samsung ? Y'all know this is carrier stupidity.

Be honest with yourselves. Get a ds version if you want dual sim. None of this is new.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] eric6268:
Why my unlocked version doesn't support eSim? Are you working for Samsung?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Rohitperky:
I did purchase unlocked version from US to India without knowing the Esim is not enabled and now ended up to use single Sim. I went to Samsung customer care in India but they were unable to activate the Esim due to restriction in US but I again raised this to Samsung service online and escalates further. One of the guy replied me that Samsung is working and the developers are in process to push a Ota to enable this feature so very soon you can expect the update. But no ETA provided hopefully they enable soon like how they did for Fold 2. Please anyone else know if this can be activated when you travel out of US please post your response.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] rjohnstone:
eSIM software is present on US models.

Did some digging through the system files and the eSIM client is already present/installed on the latest AT&T image.

Looks like it just needs a CSC update to enable the eSIM function.

Edit: I guess XDA image uploads are broken.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] hkalltheway:
So is this a sign of hope? Was the eSIM client present/installed previously on the previous AT&T image? This will be a game changer, if true. Finally!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] eric6268:
On my SM-N986U1

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Good luck to you guys they'll be no esim activated on USA spec models. Seems like the carriers here have a good stranglehold on Samsung or Samsung loves appeasing them. Ask yourself why isn't the USA spec iPhone esims crippled? Mmm
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] coilbio:
Pixel 4's also run on esim. Definitely a samsung thing. I think they've gotten to big to specify for every market and would rather hit all markets with proven technology.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Yep had a pixel 4A with Google fi as esim and Three UK sim card physical. Sweet phone that was.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheMadScientist:
Its funny to. My note 20 is dual sim. IMEI 2 claims it's assigned to esim. But it can't be obviously its assigned to my 2nd sim
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Its American model right?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheMadScientist:
No I get mine from rent a center. Dual sim exy in us
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
What's the baseband and csc information on those models from Renta center? Yours is a physical dual sim model with no esim I believe.

I saw a Sm-n985f for sale on Facebook marketplace recently.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheMadScientist:
The csc is trinidad Tobago ttt yea physical dual sim but I'm running dtb German csc for updates
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] rjohnstone:
I can't say for sure if it was on previous builds. I wasn't looking for it before.

The filename is com.samsung.android.app.telephonyui.esimclient, version 11.5.05.9

When looking at the app info, it is listed as installed and it is in a running state.

So there is obviously another component missing or not activated yet.

Edit: Found what's missing... US Note 20 Ultra is missing the EuiccService. This is required to manage an eSIM.

Should be installed under system/priv-app, but does not exist on the U/U1 models.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Thanks. I'm assuming the Renta center ones will have some sort of identifiable information in the settings about software menu that can be checked before purchase?

What method did you use to change csc to dtb? Flashed it I assume using Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheMadScientist:
Yea just flashed in Odin. They all have the model number on the back. And or box. I did have a note 9 from them that was was snap model unlocked. But everyone since been exynos 3 out of 4

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On a side note. My note 20 knox and mdm are different. Like prenormal I have no oem unlock. But I'm normal. So I'm assuming the same server is tied to knox and mdm now. Amd not letting me have oem unlock

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On a side note. My note 20 knox and mdm are different. Like prenormal I have no oem unlock. But I'm normal. So I'm assuming the same server is tied to knox and mdm now. Amd not letting me have oem unlock
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Glorious Panama ? not North Florida.

I think the only thing I need doing is to change the csc to the German one for faster updates. Anything else come to mind?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I have that system app on my physical dual sim. I don't think it means anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] munachi:
Just got the Note 20 Ultra SM-986U1 variant and was disappointed to find that it does not support esims (yet). Chatted with a Samsung rep through the Samsung Members app after making some unsuccessful enquiries about the topic through the virtual assistant. The rep confirmed that the function would come to the phone through an OTA update this Q4 (fingers crossed).

I also stumbled on the small sticker placed midway at the back of the phone and noticed 2 IMEIs. One starting with 356 and the other starting with 357.

Looks like it truly does support eSIMs. 😊
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Ask yourself the question. Why wasn't it enabled or available when launched ? Same sh** OnePlus played also with their Oneplus8pro , after many months it's now available via android 11 update apparently.

You want my take on the matter? The USA carriers fear dual sim ( choices for the consumer ) and the likes of Samsung and OnePlus didn't enable it for the sake of appeasement. You're probably asking why Apple has had dual sim available in the USA for a while now ? It's because they don't allow the carriers to dictate to them. They dictate to the carriers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] eric6268:
You are 100% right. I feel sad as a Samsung fan.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] munachi:
You're definitely right. Let's wait and hopefully see.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dublinz:
Do you know can Hong Kong version N20 Ultra activate eSIM?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
I don't believe hK has esim. It's physical dual sims.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] rjohnstone:
The app is for SIM card management.

Without it, you cannot manage dual SIM or eSIM functions.

I would expect a dual SIM phone to have it by default.