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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] WingedCow:
I'm aware of that, but they worked as screen protectors if you dont plan on tossing your phone in your pocket with everything else. My Note10+ still has it on after a year and its working great lol. I'm just saying that the one that came with my 20 Ultra was different than those shown in some videos. Theirs were the old fashion ones I've seen in the Note 10+, but my Note 20 Ultra came with a screen protector that had a pull flap on top and a hole cutout for the fingerprint scanner(and a hellot flimsier), something the others didnt.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
That is for shipping. The plastic on your note 10 (with the little raised hole around the front facing camera) is an actual screen protector.

Almost every phone in existence had a shipping cover on the screen to protect it from micro abrasions while it's shifting around in its box.

Put it this way. If you take your phone to get the screen replaced, they won't put that back on your note 20. If you take your Note 10 to get it's screen replaced by samsung. They reinstall the screen protector.

So yes, they both protect the screen but one is intended to be removed before use. The US didn't get actual screen protectors. This is pretty widely known.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] WingedCow:
I didnt know that until recently that the 20 didnt come with any(because as you stated, every phone came with it before this), because I usually check JerryRigsEverything and his came with it on his videos, which now I guess I can assume is the international version and not the US version.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
JerryRig had the Korean version.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] HolyGrail:
I made a fix thread, hope it helps.

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/how-to/note-20-ultra-washed-screen-fix-t4159065
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] paulrgod:
There's not a fix for this issue, there are simply phones that have dimmer screens, mine was one of them. I sent mine back and unfortunately still waiting for a replacement due to stock issues. Next to my Note 10 Plus there was actually no comparison. At max brightness, was a difference of maybe 30%. I've since been into a few stores and compared with 3 other ultra devices.. 1 of them was similar to the one I had, but the other 2 appeared to be even brighter than my Note 10 Plus..

my advice to anyone who thinks they have a dull screen, get it sent back as it's obviously faulty. It's supposed to be the brightest OLED display on a phone as mentioned by Samsung themselves and measured by Display Mate.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] HolyGrail:
Maybe not a fix for the less bright issues your having, (my screen brightness was fine) but it is a fix for the ultra less vivid screen that I was having. Both are covered in this thread. For a month, my note 20 ultra screen side by side with my note 9 looked washed out, and because that setting defaulted from when I first setup the phone, I had no idea that setting existed or would cause such a washed out looking screen.

So if you have screen bright issues, yes of course, get a replacement. But if your screen is not as vivid or washed out, you should disable the "Apply Dark Mode to Wallpaper " in dark mode settings, it should fix the issue. If it doesn't, then you probably have the dimmer screen issues like paulrgod.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Guyinlaca:
Coming from the Note 10+, the Note 20 Ultra is much brighter, however the colors are less saturated. It was fairly noticeable at first but I'm used to it by now. The Note 10+ almost looks oversaturated now. Like the Pixels, they should have at least 3 color profiles for people to tune it to their liking.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] AndroidPurity:
Thanks for the input! I called Samsung Support a few days ago. They had me do a full reset of all settings (not full phone reset) and that actually seemed to solve the brightness issue. Like it hurt my eyes on 100%. It never did that before. Although now it seems back to being dim again. I tried the full settings reset again, but this time didn't seem to help.

So I am probably going to have to call them back. This certainly is not the brightest Galaxy phone. So something must be wrong with mine. Even though the settings reset seemed to help before, even then it still seemed sub par, but at least acceptable.

Are you still waiting for your replacement? If so, did they give you an ETA?

I have only compared mine to 1 in store. It seemed the store phone was just 5% brighter, so I never thought I had a defective one. Just thought they were all like this until I saw JerryRigEverythings video with 2 that had very different displays.

I'm going to go around to a couple stores to compare mine to ensure mine is 1 of the dimmer phones before I push for an exchange. Its a darn shame cause I love everything else about this phone.

Also can anyone else verify when they put their phone on 100% brightness then open chrome or open Google maps the phone significantly dims? My phone also is doing that and its extremely annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] MrMike2182:
Did you really just screenshot your phone to try to show the brightness/colors? Lmfao, I'm dying over here, haha! You know you need to actually get a different camera and or another phone to take the picture! A screenshot doesn't do what you're thinking it does.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] abax4401:
Sarcasm, bud. Sarcasm.

I understand another camera would be needed, see earlier posts where I mentioned I had no way to take such a pic. The thread continued, I thought it'd be funny... evidently it wasn't.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] MrMike2182:
Ahh well you got the effect you were aiming for haha.. I actually did see someone else do that before trying to show us dead pixels and he realized his mistake a little too late and wrote, "Yeah I really am that stupid" it had us all cracking up!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] abax4401:
I should've went that route. Would've been funnier. [emoji38]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Bolardito:
I did the Chrome experiment. If I have the adaptive brightness enabled and then I turn up the brightness manually there is no dimming when opening the Chrome app but If I disable the adaptive brightness the screen dims a little bit when I open the Chrome app
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] AndroidPurity:
Thanks for verifying. Since you were able to reproduce it in manual brightness, then I guess this is just some weird software thing Samsung has programmed on purpose to conserve battery. When in Vivid color mode and 100% manual brightness and opening certain apps it dims at least 10-15%. Very noticeable and very annoying.

A separate
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] paulrgod:
That definitely sounds like the same issue as mine had. I'd definitely look to getting it replaced.

Unfortunately I'm still waiting for a replacement. This has been a poor customer service experience, I'm close to just cancelling and asking for a refund.

Called Samsung 5 or 6 times, feel like I'm getting fobbed off a bit. I at least now have a new order number but has not progressed at all. I'm now on day 18 without a device....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] AndroidPurity:
Thanks for the update! I went to a 2nd store today. It seemed nearly identical to mine with all the same display settings. The instore display was maybe 2-3% brighter. It was minimal or my eyes playing tricks. So thats 2 out of 2 stores that nearly matches my display.

So starting to think maybe this phone is just not programmed to be bright in manual brightness on purpose or it's a software issue Samsung needs to fix with an update. Especially the dimming of the display when opening certain apps like Chrome and Google Maps. That can not be normal. My display settings are currently and usually....

90% Brightness (beginning of the orange on slider)

Adaptive Brightness OFF

Blue Light Filter OFF

Adaptive Color Filter OFF

Vivid Mode

White Balance is 1 notch Cooler

Video Enhancer ON

All Color Settings in Accessible Visibility Enhancements OFF

Battery Mode is Maximum Performance

I'm going to check a 3rd store tomorrow. If its 3 stores in a row that match mine, then I guess I got 1 of the brighter Note 20 Ultras and its just a software dimming issue I am having.

In summary I should not need to keep the "brightest display of any Galaxy" at 90% brightness to feel its plenty bright in a normal lit indoor room, and most of all it definitely should not be automatically dimming when certain apps are opened with adaptive brightness on.

Please update when you get your new phone. Whether its brighter or not. I will update with any new developments from my side too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Proday:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
The n20 does look slightly brighter
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] abax4401:
I'm sitting outside in the sun and my brightness slider isn't even that high. Maybe just return/exchange your device?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] roryh86:
I recommend for anyone who want to know more about the Note 20 Ultra screen, to check out displaymate.com (http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note20_ShootOut_1N.htm)

If you set your phone to manual brightness and max out the slider, you will get around 600-700 nits maximum brightness.

Only when you turn on auto brightness (adaptive brightness) will your phone reach 1600nits brightness outdoors in bright sunny environments. This has been the story for a few Samsung generations now. If you keep it manual, it will only ever reach 700nits.

Also, I noticed when you reset the phone or turn it on for the first time, even on full brightness its a bit dim. I have 2 note 20 Ultras, one that I was used for a couple of weeks and another that was fresh out of the box. When both were set on max brightness, the fresh one was noticeably dimmer. To solve the issue I turned on adaptive brightness and set it to max, I then placed the phone under a bright spotlight for a few seconds and repeated the process 3 times. After that, when I tested it against my other Note, they were both equally bright.

My theory is it's an AI learning process, and when you first turn on it's still learning the brightness levels. When you stick it under a bright light or sun, it calibrates higher.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
All that is good an all but my Note 20 Ultra that I've had since release seems dull and slightly less bright than my Note 10+. That's with QHD, AUTO, MANUAL, ETC ETC. They have the came settings for warmth, vivid, launcher, dark mode, icons.. everything matches. But the phone looks drab next to my Note 10
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] roryh86:
It's probably because the colours are more accurate/calibrated on the Note 20U. Natural Mode, which is also the most colour accurate calibrated mode is also the most dull mode. So then it makes sense that if they have made Vivid mode more accurate then it got less saturated and closer to more realistic colours. Samsung should add a saturation slider for those who don't care about accuracy and just want fake popping colours. Note20U for sure has the brighter screen hardware, measured and proven. So could be a software bug that's limiting the brightness. Phones always have problems on release.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
Seems quite silly to have a vivid mode that you calibrate to be "more realistic". That is very, VERY counter intuitive. Why have a vivid mode.. Making this sound as if it was on purpose defeats the purpose of having an option between normal and vivid lol...

There is a normal mode for a reason, nevermind they are known for over saturation. Claiming "for people that don't care about accuracy" while ignoring Samsung's post processing on photos is hilarious. This is the company that turns on the beautify affect by default.

Chances are if you have purchased more than one samsung, you love their habit of over saturation. Nevermind mind being slightly more dull compared to the Note 10+ is still pretty over saturated.

I guess to end it all, was there some press statement on "more realistic calibration" or is that fan boy speculation?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] roryh86:
You're absolutely right. They should be different. I still think they are. I always used to use Natural for the last few years because Vivid was just too intense for me but I'm using Vivid on the Note 20U, cause I like how they toned it down a bit (not too dull like natural, but also not too crazy colourful). So for me I've appreciated this change.

If my memory isn't failing me, I remember Samsung used to have a saturation slider. I think they should add one so people can customise the look the way they want, that's my honest opinion. Not just white balance control. Because obviously some people are not happy with that look.

As for the beauty modes, yeah I always turn that off, looks so fake. And I meant accuracy in screens, Samsung are all about screens, they even make the panel for iPhone. Software wise, yeah they still have their gimmicks.

I've mostly had Samsung's yes. I've cycled through some iPhone's, HTC and OnePlus, but I prefer Samsung's ever since they introduced OneUI.

As for the reference information, I was using DisplayMate. I put the link in the previous post. It's very detailed. I had a look at the wide colour gamut percent (Vivid mode) on the Note 20U compared to the Note 10+, and yeah it looks like they lowered it slightly. 142% compared with 135%.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] smasher220:
Mine has a very noticeable yellow tint on pretty much every setting I try. The only way to mitigate the issue is to set vivid mode, turn the slider all the way to cold, then go to advance and bring green all the way down. Even with this tweak it's still not a very pleasant white.

Here you can see it compared to a cheap huawei (p-something smart) with LCD display. It looks slightly more yellowish even compared with my old s6 which is 4 years old and its screen is probably worned out by some degree.

No need to say that I'm fairly disappointed...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VICosPhi:
I was hoping the new update would fix this yellow tint issue but nope... Also hoping they enable ESIM soon for USA model N20U
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Nade333:
Select vivid mode,slider of cold and warmer keep at default level,then go to advance and bring green all the way down, it will increase contrast ratio then you compare with S6 .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] smasher220:
Is it normal that I have to do this to have a screen that don't look completely yellow and washed out?

I'm considering taking it back
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] abax4401:
I'd 100% take it back.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] goodpenguin:
Maybe the blue light filter is on?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] sledgie:
Oh my gosh.

GUYS! stop making excuses for a multi billion dollar company that has sold sh*t screens!!

Yellow screen guy- take it back!!

Dull and not bright - send it take it back!!

This is no, "oh maybe blue light filter is on" bs.

They've manufactured crap screens and I bet they are either not calibrated the same or different screens models.

Oh and no more "I like the natural look instead of vivid" comments. Natural looks like yellow and dull trash on the BAD displays.

As for dimming before going into Chrome - this is why I stopped using Huawei phones. They started this back with the Mate 9 or Mate 10 - screen dims when going to home screen or Chrome. It gets bright then goes down 20%. I could not stand it. They claimed it was for battery life, I disagreed and thought it was for screen burn in.

Here are pics including iphone se 2020 which has such a dim screen it's ridiculous - yet somehow brighter than the Note, 20 Ultra. Btw, note 20 Ultra was on adaptive brightness in direct sunlight. Other phone is Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro. Brightness phone I've ever used in sunlight tied with OnePlus 8 Pro.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
This has forever killed me in these device communities. People with issues that aren't blaring in your face are dismissed by long diatribes of how users don't know what they are looking at or expecting too much because (insert reviewer here) told me what to think and of course manufacturers never screw up (looking at those three note 7s I had to return).

Hell it's a game of numbers. You make millions of devices, there are bound to be defects. But people are either afraid of another Note 7 event that they wanna bury their heads in the sand or just have been brain washed by tech tribalism that defense is the only answer to an issue someone may be having.

The idea that people defend brands like it's their own personal work and well being being torn down blows my mind.

Having individuals more ready to attack a consumer to defend a brand but will in the same breath use terms like iSheep shows a huge lack of self awareness. Samsung doesn't care about you or your opinion. It cares about shareholders and increasing the bottom line.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] *Detection*:
I don't disagree that some devices will have faults, but that's a small number, most devices are absolutely fine

I don't have another phone to compare to, but obviously a lot brighter at full brightness than your note pic, and this was not even in sunlight so still has more to give

Also on Natural display mode, Vivid adds far too much saturation to things, makes photos look fake
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] sledgie:
Perfectly fine for those people who think Vivid looks fake.

Perfectly fine for those people who think Natural looks too dull.

Samsung used to have up to 4 display options - but this has nothing to do with that.

We are essentially talking about the brightness and yes, contrast.

There is obviously something wrong with SOME displays out there.

I have an SM-N986U1 phone - unlocked obviously.

We need to identify the model and perhaps even where it was manufactured. Could those of us who have dull displays please find your model number - and please only say the original model. If you flashed your U1 to a U please don't type U.

Thank U1 lol

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Hmm not sure why I can't edit my last reply. Sorry for the double/triple replies.

I just noticed something that a user suggested earlier. I have Adaptive brightness on. Everything else is turned to off and I am running at 60hz.

Outside in direct sunlight the screen looked readable (yay). Then within 2 minutes it darkened, while the screen was on.

I rebooted/restarted and it looked good again and readable in sunlight. I lowered the brightness with adaptive brightness on and turned AB off. It went all the way back up again and within seconds became dark. I can't repeat that exact scenario again but i can repeat the turning it off while lowering it and it still goes back to the top.

Xiaomi had something like this on the Mi 10 Pro that I just sold (stupid, stupid!) where you didn't need to have automatic brightness on but if it detected sunlight, it would go max bright. However, Xiaomi got even brighter if it needed to when you turned the auto brightness on - as opposed to only "sunlight mode".

I'm wondering if there are 1) different manufactured displays 2) different code 3) different calibrations at factory done.

Something is out of whack and it SEEMS to be a software issue now, at least in my case, but that doesn't rule out that some of these displays are just washed out - which should never happen with OLED not to mention SUPER OLED from Samsung.

As for the heating hypothesis - where the phone shuts the display down to prevent overheating - I'm in Pittsburgh. It's 73 out where I am. I can overload this phone to 60fps playing a game at 120/90hz and while it may get hot - the brightness never drops. As we have seen in Power settings, it can get even brighter at 60hz but it has to stay at FHD+. I don't think heat has anything to do with the lowering the display BRIGHTNESS unless it's severely overheated such as at the beach. I don't think a majority of us are talking about that though. I do wish we could bring more attention to the issue
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
Not saying delineating between U1 and U is going to slow anything down but that is a US thing and really only has baring on the software not the hardware.

U1 and U are identical when it comes to hardware.

My display is dull compared to my Note 10 and my 20 is a korea model.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VICosPhi:
I have compared my Note 20 ultra US carrier model with unlocked Note 20 ultra and with another carrier model at best buy store. All of them have dirty yellow or green tint when displaying white color when compared side by side with my Note 10+ US carrier model.

To add further, Tab S7+ also has this dirty white issue with compared with S6 tab.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Tonyy1206:
Right?!!! I knew my eyes werent playing games with me when viewing the display on my n20 ultra US unlocked purchased via Samsung. And when lowering the brightness all the way down on dark mode i see the a bit of green tint.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] sledgie:
So does this mean the unlocked models are the only ones that have this screen issue? Can anyone from Verizon or Tm or anyone confirm this? We are talking about brightness but also green and yellow tint at lower levels. I would love to hear from the other carrier models
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] VICosPhi:
I have a T-mobile carrier model and I have this green/yellow tint issue. Brightness seems fine for me. Unlocked models also have the tint issue, not sure about brightness issue though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] goodpenguin:
I'm not defending the brand, I'm just giving suggestions in case people missed these settings. But mine doesn't have these issues but I have the HK version so maybe the US versions have more defects.

The issues regarding the screen that I have are:

1. The screen is too bright. It doesn't get low enough compared to my S8+ in no light environment.

2. The skin tones in images are more yellowish than my S8+. I prefer the color reproduction of my S8+ as it is more realistic. But for some reason, the blues, reds, greens are all the same with S8+ so I assume this is a software issue. Games look almost the same for both phones. Maybe Samsung should bring back the Dynamic AMOLED settings as it is more accurate compared to Vivid.

And I would recommend to return those units as well. You were "LUCKY" to actually get those defective units. This is normal for early adopters so this is not surprising. I will also expect the same for the launch of the Iphone 12 to have many complains and issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dorpmuller:
I didn`t read this whole thread, but I just got a Verizon Ultra and the display is not as saturated, bright and sharp as my Note 9. Most people wouldn't notice, but I did right away. Debating returning the phone. Any thoughts/ideas?

Rich
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pcriz:
Same for my phone when compared to my year-old note 10+

I'd try to go look at some other devices maybe in store. What sucks is that even if you convince someone of a defect, what are the chances of getting the same defect