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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] siraloz:
This isn't too bad at 5.99 for three or 6.49 for 4.

3 Pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DLYPSRJ

4 Pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FMBCYB3
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Every additional piece of lense optics effects the image especially if not matched high quality coated optics. Internal reflections between the sensor and lens elements always degrade the image to some extent.

May also cause AF abnormalities.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] shagy38:
Could you share the link

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Link please
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] scoobrel:
These definitely affected the flash.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] siraloz:
Yes, flash splash with this camera protector is no good.

[IMG="No Flash Photography"]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41lZfMwnD5L._AC_.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] cpufrost:
Exactly. Flare is bad enough with bright lights and in the sun as it is now. Adding another element without any treatment whatsoever is asking for big trouble.

As it sits with the laser autofocus continuously blasting making it impossible to shoot video or snap pics at night through a window, this could cause problems all the time in dark settings or cause the laser autofocus to mistrack.

Different strokes for different folks, I suppose but I simply don't understand the fascination with all these protectors and other things that either gimp the device or make it feel completely different in the name of protection. I get using a case, but some of the other things, sheesh.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Oh snap... the laser... that could go to hell real fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
I scratched the lenses of an older phone. All my phones get protectors now. So far I haven't had any issues with the one I linked to. It has cutouts for the flash and laser.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] siraloz:
How's the clouding with that camera protector when using flash, especially with low light scenes?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] makavelisk:
I just bought the UniqueMe glass protector with the cutouts and it makes the camera useless when using the flash. I saw another one with the entire upper right corner cutout and may try that. I wouldn't waste your time or money on putting a glass protector on even with the glass cutouts as it washes out the pictures and gives it a blue tint. Picture attached.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] LMMT:
I bought this one. It doesn't seem to have a problem with flash.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FD96H9P/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_y5atFbJN1PW1B
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] MKchrias:
Found this on YouTube for the Spigen one on S20

Didn't seem to have any flash problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
You want a case that has a raised border around the cams to protect them. Use a dry microfiber cloth to carefully clean them as needed.

I use to shoot with Pro Canons and L glass. Many of those lens are front vented; you want a UV filter on them for dust protection to act as a dust filter.

I could tell the difference in image Q between a cheap UV filter and the $96 Heliopan filters. Heliopan's were the only ones I used.

You can't get anything even close to a Heliopan's flatness and muticoating optic properties with these phone cam protectors.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Had to run down to my basement...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Arr6:
I was it thinking the same thing. I did purchase the whitestone dome camera protector, but may just return it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
I maybe mistaken but it looks like the back cover has a set of protective covers for the cams. If so than that's all that would need replaced if damage rather than the camera module.

Definitely put this in a good multilayered case though.

Was reading a CNET review, apparently those idiots thought the 6 foot drop test was dropping the actual phone 6 feet. With predictable results.

Morons.

They were also upset when they saw that ceramic floor tile scratched the screen badly, dah.

It was amusing and painful to read...

The Corning drop test is done with a steel ball dropped on the screen at 6 feet in this case.

A 2 foot increase from 4 feet in drop resistance plus being able to withstand more repeated drops is a great improvement.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] siraloz:
Did you take that picture with the flash on?

From an Amazon Review:

[IMG="Flash Cloud"]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71-9DwBrRHL._SY88.jpg[/IMG]

Amazon reviews there have conflicting info.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] TheXclusive814:
Just installed it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Refraction 101...

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/12/the-glass-in-front-of-your-glass-all-about-filters/

https://pages.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam/User-Guide/filter/filter-coated.html
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Yep.

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Well, ****. Went down and did some more tests. Hazy if I'm shooting stuff further away. That printer box was only a couple feet away. After I get four or five feet away, the haze shows up.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] siraloz:
Well, that's promising. Thanks for the info.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Uhh, I may have a fix! Need someone else with a hole punch glass cover to test though..

So, standing back shooting the darkest place in the basement at the moment.

Then I peeled the glass cover off, and used a black sharpie to black out the edge of the hole around the flash, and stuck it back on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] borijess:
How's the UAG case you have? Does it have good lip on the top and bottom. I have a plasma and it barely has any lip. Which I am surprised cause UAG always had the best lip.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Yea, there's a lip, maybe 3mm? Strong 2mm at least. :D This is actually the thinnest case I've had for a phone since my Note 2. I'm still not sure if I like it or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] borijess:
Can you post pics of the lip?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Calipers say 1mm, I was waaay off!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] borijess:
I will check my UAG plasma tomorrow. The Ringke Camo has more lip than UAG. I was pretty surprised.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Okay, actual night time shot with flash and my sharpie mod.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Good lense/camera designers go to great lengths to suppress ghosting and flare.

Adding another optical element especially if lacking anti reflective coatings will have unknown consequences... the optimum spacing to the other elements including the sensors is also calculated during the lense/cam design.

https://photographylife.com/what-is-ghosting-and-flare/amp
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] barry99705:
Then they should have used gorilla glass on the camera glass too. I don't take many photos in the dark, so I'll chance the occasional foggy shot. It's fairly easy to clean up in post anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
It's pretty funny.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] felloffthetruck:
The black ones from Caseology seem pretty good.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] brockyneo:
I've got the black one from caseology no problems with flash at all I'll post pics tomorrow

There is no cutouts on this one either
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] princeasi:
I have the whitestone dome camera protector installed. Taken with flash on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Try some outside shots into bright light... that extra element will impact the image Q especially if it has a cheap or no anti-reflective coating(s)!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] princeasi:
Outdoors. Bright day. Whitestone dome camera sp.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Try some sun or pinpoint light sources in the frame for giggles... no good deed goes unrewarded.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] princeasi:
No way will I point it at the sun without a proper tint/filter. But I will try a bulb source shortly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] princeasi:
At my local cbtl
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
See the ghost to the left of the ceiling light?

May or may not be from the protector but that's what an internal reflection looks like.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] princeasi:
Yeah I've gotten those with every phone camera (with or without a lens protector) I've used when taking a photo with a light source in the frame like that. I was moreso demonstrating the Whitestone dome camera SP I'm using which seems not to degrade the quality of the images. Or at least, it's not as recognizable in comparison to others I've seen on here using another brand. My aim is to only offer a yardstick for others that may be looking to acquire a protector for their camera lens.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Even very expensive L glass/Canon Pro Cams have internal reflections. Given a compound lense can have many internal optics they do pretty good.

Typically the cmos sensor it's self is the biggest offender, irony.

The fact it has green tint is probably from an anti-reflective coating on one of the elements.

That's a minor anomaly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] cac9478:
Bought a clear one with good reviews on Amazon and was unable to use the flash without it making the image completely cloudy.

I then bought the Spigen which was black, not my favorite look, hoping to resolve the issue. So far so good I notice no difference in the image quality, even when pixel peeping, and the flash no longer distorts the image at all.

The quality of the Spigen is also so much better. The glass is rounded on the edges instead of straight cut which gives it a much more premium look and feel. Also the glass itself appears to have a coating which helps with fingerprints and just feels a lot smoother.

Stop thinking about it and just buy one, you won't regret it. It's only $13 if you notice any degredation in the camera quality then remove it, but I promise you won't.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] dj24:
Link?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Ok... am I tripping or doesn't the 20U -already- come with a outside replaceable cam cover like the 10+, S20's and so on?

It may require taking the back off but that's still not worth going to all this trouble for a piece of plastic!

You're trying to protect the protector?

After a year my 10+ factory cam protector is not marred, nothing special on it, just a case.

Get a good case with a raised cam guard.

Similar to using a hood on a DSLR lens... helps protect from flaring, bumps and drops.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] rotalution:
Are you talking about photo quality degrade from protectors even with cut outs? Because I think the protectors these guys talking about all have cut outs.

I can see flash refract from the cut out ring though?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
There's no point to having 2 plastic lense protectors...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] sanvara:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CYY3QBR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2SFKRF5TPZMT5&psc=1

Agree, you don't want to use plastic. But some of the protectors like the Spigen aren't plastic, they are tempered glass.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
The phone comes with an anti-reflective plastic lense protector from the factory... none is needed.

Presumably Samsung also placed it at the optimum distance to avoid internal reflections.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] sanvara:
Is the plastic scratch resistant?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Seems to be.

The 10+ uses one too. After a year it has no marks on it.

Protect it from direct contact with a case.

Clean gently with a microfiber cloth as needed.

It's probably worth only a couple bucks anyway.

Not sure if you need to pull the back cover to replace it, chances are you'll never need too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Nastrahl:
On my note 10 or got scratched in my pocket by the time I arrived at work. And there were no sand whatsoever in it.

But I kept it. Since it seems to be the only one to work flawlessly with the fingerprint sensor
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Sand is everywhere to a greater or lesser extent.

I never use the fingerprint scanner. I will tell you this that eventually the abrasiveness of your fingers will wear into any factory applied screen coating, even the glass it's self.

I would have marred the screen by now without a screen protector. The 2nd day I had the Note it slipped out my pocket and face planted on the edge of a jagged piece of aluminum right on the curve portion of the screen (with a case on the phone).

Screwed the protector but saved the glass.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] fusiondynamics:
Someone needs to make a thin plastic one with cut outs around the cameras.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Nastrahl:
On toast made you can have it in wood. The only ones I know that cut out holes for the camera (well, obviously because wood ?)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Arr6:
Check out the Spigen one it has all the cut outs

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CYY3QBR/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_tAFDFbW3B0WGW
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
They'll make keeping dirt free and cleaning more difficult.

Last thing you want is a debris magnet and then scratching a lense when trying to clean it.

Best way to protect these is with a case that has a high ridge all around the lens and sensors.

Keep it simple...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Nastrahl:
For the note 10+, there were camera ring to heightens the lenses from a surface. I wonder if it exists for the 20.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
The protective plastic on the 10+'s lense array actually sits nearly flush to that ring; not near enough guard.

My case adds almost a quarter inch of spacing to the back at the cam cutout.

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I would get a case that does. It will also act a little like a cam hood to not only protect but help to reduce flaring.

Putting another protector on top of the factory one is overkill. Be like using 2 UV filters on a dlsr lense.

I guarantee you it will degrade the image to some extent.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] jaypeezee:
Just FYI, the Spigen DOES NOT have cutout. I just purchased and installed, it is a full piece of glass.

On a side note, I am not experiencing any glare/halo effect
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
For each layer of refraction you add you lose a small percentage of light transmission. Ghosting is the big issue especially when adding flat optical elements.

It's there...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Arr6:
You are right just opened it up and inspected it and it is a solid piece. It looks like it would have cut outs. I guess I will just leave it bare.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] earldom:
I just got the amFilm protector. It does have cutouts for the flash and the laser focus. Reviews are excellent, and I think it's a winner. And, yes, it will slightly degrade the image. I know some people only have this as a source for photography, and I take most of my pictures with my phone. The slight degradation from this protector will be less than a scratch on the lens. To me, it's worth it to prevent permanent damage.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
It's attached to the back cover, may not even need to remove back cover to remove lense protector...

https://youtu.be/qAa3yCQQgsg
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] sanvara:
I'm confused now. This person says their Note 20 Ultra lens cover shattered. https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-20-ultra/accessories/note-20-ultra-5g-camera-replacement-t4168547

Amazon seller has Note 20 Ultra lens cover replacement and it's glass. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JVD15LS/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
Lol, so am I. That kit looks like it's for disassembling to back panel.

Anyway like I've been saying it comes with a factory protective cover as you can see.

I thought it was plastic but glass is better; more scratch resistant.

Get a good case that physically protects the glass and stop worrying.

Just try to keep your finger off it when pulling out of your pocket. Otherwise it rarely needs cleaning*.

Use a clean microfiber cloth* to clean, it can be cleaned dry like this without scratching it.

Use common sense though.

For mud running water is best; try not to do this.

For sand, use a blow bulb to blow it off first.

Use a little Windex if needed for water spots, oil, etc.

* when washing a microfiber cloth rinse thoroughly and repeatedly... distilled or RO water is best for final rinse to avoid residues that can cause streaking if moisten.

Never use fabric softner, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Jfree3000:
I'm using the one from Rhinoshield, it has cutouts and you get two in the pack. I'll take some pics later, having no issues with it with photos and video.

https://shop.rhinoshield.io/shop/sa...sung-galaxy-note20-ultra&category=impact-lens
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Limeybastard:
Worst thing you can do is use those metal type lens protectors. Research will tell you why.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] ZayaanAhyaan:
I got the ringke, 3 in a pack, and they fit perfectly. Covers the lenses except the flash and laser module. No issues with flash.

I wanted something that would cover the lens as I constantly keep cleaning it and didn't want to have micro scratches like my note 10 plus. In this case, lenses are so much bigger and didn't want to take a chance.

So far, all good!

https://www.ringkestore.com/products/galaxy-note-20-ultra-camera-protector-invisible-defender-glass
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] coilbio:
I've tried the clear glass ones, they have horrible flare when using flash.

The black/coated ones and they have glare bounce back to the lens.

Ive tried a few brands and all have the same problem. I haven't tried plastic.

I do have a case with camera bumper but that doesn't protect against sand scratches, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] ekerbuddyeker:
Same here, not good at night if there's a bright streetlight nearby (light leaks in), gets flare.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
What you see on the phone is a protector built into the case. Keep your fingers/objects off it and sand scratches shouldn't be an issue (I live in the desert).

This is a hard cam unit to protect because of its width; raised cam guards aren't as effective as they are on the 10+

In over a year I haven't scratched my 10+ protective cover. I clean it about once every month or two.

Use a blower bulb to blow off sand and loose debris.

Clean as needed with a clean dry microfiber cloth*.

Shake it out first.

A small amount of Windex on the cloth if needed.

Use only a microfiber cloth; the coarser ones work fine.

* never use fabric softeners when you wash these, best to do final rinse(s) with RO or distilled water to prevent streaking. Hand washing is fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] First_N_Last:
Thought I'd share my experiences with camera lense cover/protector - I tried three. At the end of effort I use no cover and keep the phone in a protective wallet case with a deep camera recess.

My suggestion for clearly checking to see if your camera cover/protector is affecting photos is this. On a clear night with a full moon, zoom in on the moon a take a picture. That should show you if the cover is not affecting your photos. This is a simple easy test.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] blackhawk:
The outside piece

is

the factory installed glass lens assembly protector. Been nice if Samsung would have kept it thinner and easier to protect like the 10+ but whatever.

KISS... I would leave it alone; the more you screw around with something, the more that can go wrong.

Glass won't scratch unless you make contact with it.

That aftermarket guard leaves grooves where grit can collect and end up scratching the factory protector.

Makes it harder to clean too.

Put it in a good case with a raised cam guard and be happy. The protector isn't that hard to replace if need be. Clean as needed with a dry microfiber cloth.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] fusiondynamics:
Is the cutout for the cameras really a full cutout where you could stick your finger through it?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Jfree3000:
Yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] dron39:
And is it plastic instead of glass?

How is it now with flash? I heard that transparent glass even with cutouts make blur effect and haze when flash is enabled. Especially on pictures made with low distance to object. What about this one?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] dron39:
Are tere any news?

What is good one for camera protection to nt interfere with flash (to not have haze) ?

I have Note 20 Ultra5G
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] airmaxx23:
These metal protectors are great.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] dron39:
How long do you wear them?

I have about the same from China and their glue layer is crap. It pilled off on 4th day after installation and now when i push on it i feel that it is not glued well.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] airmaxx23:
I've had this one on for about a week now and it's sticking just fine. I previously had some mystic bronze colored plates (different brand) and the adhesive layer was garbage.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] Manson79:
Hi,

I've bought these ones: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HMCMS1W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 .

Fits perfectly, cut-out for all the camera holes plus laser / flash locations and sticks very well, not even more protuberance with the Spigen Tough Armor and Samsung Rugged case.

:)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] usmaak:
It's been a few months since the last post in this thread. Did anyone get a metal camera protector. Are there any concerns about having a metal one on the camera glass?

I have these coming in a couple of days.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HJ3CGHF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Accessories] coilbio:
I actually use my phone, it's around dirt, sand and all environments.

A scratch will show up on the glass backplate on pictures and will flare up in some pictures.

There's no included protector, it's the back glass over the camera which is replaceable with consequences at best.

I work for luxottica, Wich we basically own the lens and frame aspect of eyewear, cleaning doesnt scratch surfaces the same way magnetically charged particles do. Most of the time it's sand in your pocket or case that has nothing to do with user error.

The hardest thing we've developed is antistatic surfaces for glass or plastic because the more prestine the surface, the easier things stick and scrape across it, no matter if you blow, or run water or isopropanol, it has to be scratched off.