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[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Got both phones today (earlier than expected - they were due on Tuesday originally). Got my wife's setup now. SIM card swapped right in, and the phone worked immediately. But then after a little bit, it stopped working for calls. Called TW support, and their automated system looked for the problem and fixed it automatically without me having to talk to anyone. The system said it was an APN setting change (had to read between the lines, as a non-technical person won't understand that)... but they gave info saying that you can text them "APN" and they'll give you the manual fix instructions as well. I didn't need that, but it's nice to know it was that easy. Also, not sure why it worked at first, then stopped and needed this at all, but it's working now.

Got her apps all loaded (did this manually - I could have used the smart transfer, but I kinda wanted her to get rid of apps she didn't need, haha). Phone is running now, so far so good.

The important info for people here: The phone is already at patch level July 1, 2021, which means it has the new BL already (BL v5 aka the "5" in the 5th character from the right) which is not currently unlockable. I still disabled autoupdates for now, and will see what happens going forward. Again, I think we can live without root, so we'll see how that goes.

I will work on my phone later this week... I don't know the versions on that one yet.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
that's the worst news about the build rev. I don't assume yours would be any lower.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Agreed. I don't expect that either. However, I'm guessing that sometime in the future, they may find a way to get v5 keys. I believe they can do v4 right now, so it would be a "short" step to make v5 happen. At that point, what I have today would work for rooting as well... if I cared at that time. Basically, it's kinda like what we had on the V30 here - we didn't have root, then an exploit was found allowing it to happen... so it could happen.

For now, again, just trying to see if I can live rootless. I believe my wife can, I expect I can as well. I have 30 days to find out, haha.

EDIT: Forgot to mention. This is an SM-975U1 phone... an unlocked, unbranded phone. It's on TW, which gets me onto VZ towers. I will note that the phone supports HD calling without any extra VZ garbage. The phone doesn't show "HD" on the app screen, but I see it on my other phone when I am connected, which means it's working. In addition, when on LTE, that remains working, which also supports the fact that VOLTE works. When I called on Wifi, that worked as well, and showed "data" over Wifi, not over LTE... so it appears to be working VOWIFI as well. That's interesting info, since we're always told there is some "framework" in the phone to make this function. I'm not sure that's true here, at least...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Oh, that's weird that it works? I ultimately had to flash the VZ ROM to my V30 just for that reason, as the universal ROM wouldn't give me the Verizon services. It's still not perfect, but it's good enough I guess. I wonder if I got a VZ branded version it would be V4? I doubt it...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Ok, one problem I'm running into, and I wonder if anyone here has ideas. Again, I have the SM-G975U (unlocked, unbranded). The issue is that my wife needs her traditional voicemail to work along with notifications. The latter wasn't working, but I got it to work somehow... not really sure how, but I called into the voicemail, went into admin settings, and then it started to work again. Weird.

The bigger issue is visual voicemail. The U-version of the phone doesn't have any app for this. And I can't find the Verizon one (it was a red icon) from the old phone. Granted, that was on a VZ rom (VS996)... but the app is listed as com.lg.vvm... so it's an LG product? That app is also not connected to the market (I can check since I have root on the V30, and TiBu looks for this). Anyway, I figured all phones must have a generic VVM app by now... but this phone doesn't. I found a thread on XDA who pulled the app from their Samsung phones (Note devices). That apps there either say "not supported" or they don't actually do anything when run. And I can't find a Tracfone or Total Wireless (Tracfone is the company behind TW) app on the play store.

I have some things I'll try anyway (going to try pulling the APK from the V30 and seeing if that works, see if other brand apps from the store work, see if this app is "included" with MyVerizon or something. But if anyone has ideas, let me know. I'd hate to have to get the VZ-ROM version just for a stupid little app like this.

FYI, yes I know she could use Google Voice (that's what I do on my phone)... she's already using that for her business phone number and voicemail, so she can't use that for another "line" on GV.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
@schwinn8

On my VZW branded phone the app is called com.samsung.vvm. I was able to pull the VZW voicemail app. Give it a try and see if it installs.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
I think it uses "My Verizon Services" to register the visual voicemail free or premium service though.

To be honest, my VZW preinstalled ROM didn't have much bloat and what I could uninstall without root, I did. The other few things I just froze, which you may be able to disable without root also. It was a lot less than other VZW devices I've owned in the past. I didn't even experience the random app installs that I had when I was using a US998 ROM right after flashing and boot. Anyway, just saying it's not that bad IF you do have to go with a VZW ROM.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I appreciate all the information, and I know this thread is about switching phones, but there's an entire section of XDA dedicated to the S10. You' probably get better help there than from the few people following this thread.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Yeah, I knew you'd call me out, @ldeveraux :)

I posted here because I was hoping @danbest82 would see it (which he/she/they did) and so that others can see what I am going through with the transition.

I searched the S10 forums a bit, but didn't find anything more helpful there yet either. I can certainly look more, but I figured if we can help each other with these "simple" things, that would be great.

It does baffle me that there is no "general" app for visual voicemail out there that works with "most" systems. It seems to be a standard, after all... just branding applied to it. I just never thought of it, since I don't use carrier voicemail myself.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
The good news is, the app installs and operates properly at least. It asked for permissions, which I allowed... now it's at a screen saying that it's trying to download the voicemail messages, and that I should check back in a few minutes. As you suggested, maybe it needs another component to do this, but I'll give it more time.

At least, for now, it's more "functional" than the other apps I've tried... at least this one runs! If this doesn't work by tonight, I will try installing MyVerizon and seeing if that gets it working. Last ditch would be as you suggested - convert the phone to VZW...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
@schwinn8

Hopefully it works out for you!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Didn't work yet... I'm taking this offline with @danbest82 to see if I can fix it with their help. Please check your PM, thank you!

For the rest, I ran into one thing to mention - I'm on BL v5 as I mentioned. Based on the big thread here https://xdaforums.com/t/android-uns...-canada-devices.4215101/page-15#post-85230381 the S10 can be unlocked with BL4 or below, so I'm out (we knew that). Again, my hope is that v5 will happen in the future.

However, this means I need to stay on v5... and I must NOT take the latest August update! It seems that one (based on info I found at https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s10-plus/firmware/#SM-G975U1 ) will now update the BL to v6... so be aware of this, other people, as you may end up further away from the target with such an update!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
So I broke and bought a S10+ with v4 build off Swappa yesterday. Once it arrives I'll wipe it and hand it over to afaneh92 I guess?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
That's awesome! Glad you found one!

There's no handing it over, you unlock it on your PC through Odin after giving him your DID and him giving you the unlock ticket. I honestly thought unlocking and rooting my v30 was easy until I did this unlock, though this costs money but to me it's worth it. Afaneh92 is also super helpful and answers all the questions that you may think are stupid, like I did. Haha.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I mean virtually handing it over ;) I'm used to ODIN and flashing Samsungs back in the S5 days, hoping it's gotten a lot smoother since!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] kgirlx:
Strange that no seller would post build. I had 2 private sellers on Swappa that sent me the build number I asked, both with versions 4, that can be rooted and unlocked.. A third seller was to late of a version. I just bought 1 of them for 310. The other sold for 300 before I could get it. I just looked everyday for these sellers and ask when they show up. I won't buy from mass sellers that won't answer my questions. When this second phone arrives, I'll post my bootloader, root results like the 1st one.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Congrats to you guys on your new S10 phones! Good find on Swappa...

For my side, the VVM issues are not resolved on the U1 ROM. I can't get it working, for whatever reason. The "My Verizon Services" APK that danbest provided refuses to install, saying it's not allowed or something. So, I'll put on a VZ rom (which has this in there already) and see if that works. I expect it will, but I was hoping to avoid that step.

The Smart Switch app from Samsung will help in this process as well. I can recommend using that as a good way to get a quick start on the swap... I used it on my phone, and it was pretty good and easy.

I've read a ton on the ODIN process... so if I can help anyone with info there, don't hesitate to ask. I'm still learning, but I'll take those questions to the appropriate thread instead :)

EDIT: Another positive with ODIN flashing - no more issues with having to use an older computer, etc... my modern Ryzen3 computer works fine to flash and handle the phone... one less thing to deal with, haha!

EDIT2: Screwed the pooch on that process due to my own mistake. Ended up flashing "my" phone with a v6 BL. Oh well, I'm going to continue this way anyway... see how it goes. And my wife is ok with going "old school" with her personal voicemail. She doesn't get much there anyway, but it's pretty archaic to have to call in for your voicemail. F'ing VZ still continues to annoy me with this BS.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
Ugh that sucks! Maybe that can be the wife's phone if she doesn't need root...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
More updates. First off I FULLY WITHDRAW my recommendation of Total Wireless. And my wife's new S10+ refuses to change CSC codes, which is why I can't get the TW voicemail app (I see it on my phone, but not on hers, because it's stuck on TMB... and the 975 thread doesn't have any answers on why (at least not yet).

I tried to go back to my wife's old phone with the SIM, but that caused TW to lock out that phone, as it was "not compatible" due to IMEI. I got the SIM re-activated on the ancient Droid Turbo, but now I'm a little scared to put it back into the V30 as they may drop it out again. Does anyone have any guidance on SIM swapping like this? Is it a time-based thing, where if they see "too many" phones within a certain period of time, that they lock it out? I figure that may be why it tripped when I put it back in the V30 (from the S10)...? Because that happened within a few days?

In summary, my questions if anyone can answer them:

Does SIM swapping trip them to notice if it happens "too often" within some period of time?

Does anyone know of a carrier (preferably VZ towers) that doesn't pull this IMEI BS?

Details for those who care (please allow me vent a little):

Longer story short, I can't get the new S10 to update the CSC, so it's not working quite right. I basically gave up and put the SIM back into the V30, and that's when the V30 dropped service. Mind you, this is the V30 that has worked fine for 4 years on the V30, after coming out pre-activated on the DT (Droid Turbo).

I got the SIM reactivated on the DT now... good thing I kept it, huh?! I'd like to swap it back to the V30, but I'm concerned if I do it "too soon" that it will trip whatever and cause them to notice?

On the other side, my new S10 continues to work *knock on wood* with the activated SIM. Interestingly enough, that phone IMEI does check out, so maybe I'll be fine there... who knows. I also checked the IMEI of the TMB-stuck S10, and it says ok on the TW site as well... I guess I got lucky with two "approved" phones?

If I could only get the S10 to change CSC, I'd be back to a working situation... ugh, what a pain in the butt this has become...

:mad::cry:
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
Yeah, Verizon. Sure they cost more, are a "big company" that don't care about the customer, etc. I've never had service interruption and always seem to have signal when I need it. They don't rate limit and at least the FIOS side doesn't report you to any govt agency asking about IP. I can swap my SD card 100 times a day and why would they care?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
I wish I could agree. They are the WORST when it comes to this IMEI issue. They won't even talk to you if you bring a device without "their" IMEI. In the past, they wouldn't even take a friend's global/unlocked phone because the IMEI wasn't theirs. I will say, in this case, ti seems TW is behaving better, because it looks like "my" IMEI is from Sprint originally (per the phone and IMEI online checking) and their website says that my phone is "compatible" (even though I have a swapped SIM anyway).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I guess I misunderstood your problem. Does Total Wireless even have their own branded top tier phones? Can you get a TW branded device that you want? That's when I would switch carriers. The S10+ I have coming is a VZ device, so should work? That's why I've stuck with them in place of saving ~$10 month.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
TW will take any VZW phone. And, based on what I see with "my" S10+, they'll take Sprint as well. On their site, they sell the U1 phones, so they'll take true-U1 as well (that's probably what they sell from their store).

I don't think they "self brand" as heavily as ATT/VZ (ie, they don't appear to get phones with logos and such), but for the S10 series they sell U1 (unlocked global phones) without issue. That's what I got, and that is probably why they're accepting these. Interestingly enough, the two I have were U phones, so they were unlocked but carrier-specific originally per the IMEI and CSC in the devices. For this reason, I'm guessing the Ebay seller simply ODINed them to U1 and sold them that way.

In that sense, I guess I'm lucky since both devices pass TW's checker, so that's good... but I'm still pissed at all these companies for playing this BS game. Fact is, the IMEI is relatively meaningless, and the software/ROM is what matters... but the carriers don't care because it gives them an excuse to make people buy a new overpriced phone from their stores. In the case of the S10, pretty much all of Snapgragons are the same, and can be ODINed to any flavor with no real effort. Similar to how we can Frankenstein our V30s into various flavors.

I could go on, but I know I'm probably preaching to the choir... but pisses me off (as I'm sure it does others).
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I hate to tell you, it ain't gonna get any better!
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
@schwinn8

I'm trying to keep up with everything and can't remember if it was mentioned, or find it in my searches. Didn't you buy these phones from TW directly, and don't they have customer support to maybe replace the phone that refuses to connect to their service?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
No, I didn't buy from TW... they are from Ebay.

Aside from the IMEI BS, TW is doing their job. "My" phone is fine as well. It's my wifes that's giving an issue with converting the CSC, that's all. Because of that, she doesn't have the carrier VVM app (my phone has it, hers doesn't, because it's stuck thinking it's a TMo phone - it refuses to switch off). That said, there may be other issues with running this way, longer term... (TMo setup on TW SIM, etc)... so I'd like to get this done right. That's what I'm trying to figure out. The phone "should" provide a "change carrier" popup on initial setup, but it never does. That's even after re-loading the ROM, etc. Very weird. The expert on the S10 thread said this happens sometimes, and there's no real answer on how to fix it yet.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
Ah ok! My fault there. Sorry.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
I've been away from the forum a week or so. Work, family, other stuff.

While I have my carrier unlocked "AT&T" firmware S10+, it's still in box. So, I don't know the bootloader version. But when I do find out -- if it's version 4 or lower -- I'll be asking you a lot of questions. Hope you can help. :) I know nothing about Odin.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
Life happens, I get it.

I'll help the best I can. Odin is still new to me also but I'm sure it won't be a problem for you with all the work you and TxanMoe did with the V30 unlock and Frankenstein methods.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
I wrote a tutorial, not that you will need it. When you go to unlock BL, afaneh92 will walk you through it. Took 45 minutes maybe.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
We all switch to S10s and the V30 forum dies... 😥
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jaaa1976:
I bought s10plus.. its good phone...but more taller.but yesterday i bought pixel 5..waiting for delivery today..i think it will be more compact phone ..similar like V30.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Well there's also the S10. It's shorter than the S10+, if that's what you want. 6.1" screen vs 6.4" on the S10+. Our V30 are 6.0".

Compare Samsung Galaxy S10+ vs. Samsung Galaxy S10 - GSMArena.com

www.gsmarena.com
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
May it RIP. 😥
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] jaaa1976:
i also sold s10 last week..it is more narrow phone like v30..thats why i try s10 plus...will compare tomorou pixel 5 ..because didnt receive today p5.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Knock on wood, my debacle is over... more details can be seen here: https://xdaforums.com/t/g975u-and-g...discussion-here.3905897/page-66#post-85583233

I'm on BL v6 on both phones now, and honestly I don't need root from what I can see so far. I may try to pm-disable some things in my phone, but honestly I don't feel the need to do that yet. The bloatware isn't intrusive, on either device, so it's not a big deal.

I have been learning more about the phone, and maybe we should keep this thread alive to discuss such things for those of us transitioning? Although, we could create a new thread on the S10 forums instead, too. A few quick things I can recommend:

Tasker needs to be excluded from battery optimization, and it works reasonably well (I'm running into an issue with an app-profile not working when screen is off or phone is locked)

"Bixbi" app (yes, that's the spelling of the app) can let you disable the button to some degree. Default activates Google Assistant when held for a few seconds.

Everything else seems to be running fine...
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
Glad you got everything working for you and the wife! I am sorry you ended up on BL 6 but it seems you'll be ok without root for a bit.

With bixby, in options you can change a single press of the button to a flashlight or another app. And double press for bixby.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Geekzilla:
What's the likelihood of v5 bootloader being unlocked in the near future? Is progress regularly made on unlocking newer versions on Samsung or is this more like a one time thing with them? I bought a new v5 s10+ that I haven't used yet and am thinking about returning while I can if hopes are slim of future unlocking. Thanks.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ldeveraux:
It's the most popular Android brand in the world (I think?) so I would expect there are plenty of people interested in a positive result. But what's the likelyhood of it happeneing? Who knows?
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
I would suggest asking elliwigy or afaneh92 on their respective threads since they're both helpful.

But as Ideveraux said, it's a popular device so I'm sure it's coming. If you want root now, I'd start browsing to see if you can find a v4 used or a seller that will work with you on looking for BL versions.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
I believe v4 wasn't available in the beginning of that thread. If that's true, it came along later, so there's a decent enough chance I expect? But, of course, there are no guarantees.

As others said, this is a popular brand and actually one of the more popular models from what I've seen. In addition, even those who have root today can't upgrade to BL5 or BL6, so I expect they're STILL interested as well, so they aren't "done wanting" it either. I also figure if BL5 comes through, BL6 may come with it... because I don't think there's a drastic change in the security between them. Just guessing, of course... no real data to support that feeling.

So far, I don't see the need for it for myself. I get the "own your device" aspect, but I encourage people to see if you really need it... I'm seeing no reason for it (again, for ME) anymore. I've never had an issue with "bloat" (it turns off easily enough, typically stays out of the way, and doesn't take up much space). And most other features/functions can be done without root these days. Again, just my $0.02 on the matter...

EDIT: And I have no interest in custom roms anymore. Stock does well, and supports VOLTE/VOWIFI so until custom roms can do that, I have no interest in them anyway. I don't have a ton of signal at home (enough for calls, but not great) and losing data during a call is just so silly.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Osprey00:
I'm still here, El Guapo! (<-Three Amigos! reference)

Maybe I should just get with the program and buy an S10 like all of the rest of you...

...or maybe I'll just be lazy and put it off until February (when AT&T cuts off my service) so that I can get more out of my V30 and maybe even see if the S20 5G is cheap enough by then to jump to that, instead.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] danbest82:
As of now the S20 v1 and S20 FE 5G v2 lower are unlockable, whichever you're looking at. Maybe by February more versions will be...

I chose the S10+ over the S20 due to the headphone jack. If that's not important to you then you should be good to go.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Osprey00:
Thanks. I didn't notice that the S20 doesn't have a headphone jack. It's not really a deal breaker, since USB-C to headphone adapters exist (or I could just try to get used to my bluetooth earbuds), but the jack would be nice.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] schwinn8:
Just wanted to mention an interesting setting on the S10+ that i have - "screen resolution". Default runs the screen at 2280x1080 (yeesh, they can't even get the order correct for the normal portrait mode screen!)... but the key is that by default it doesn't run at the 1440 resolution.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Right. Samsung made the lower resolution the default, but you can change it to 1440p.