yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Vector-SS:
Thats just a bummer. Guess it's edge for me, unless something miraculously happens :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] jomo25:
I can't speak for all the technical hardware specs possibilities. But here's the latest status as i understand it:

1. There are at least 2 GSM-based Diamond versions available now: DIAM100 and DIAM130. The DIAM100 is the original one that went on sale. The DIAM130 seems to be the new Telstra Diamond that does support 850 3G.

2. There are lots of radio ROMs out available now. Some unlock 850 GSM for the DIAM100, which was previously thought impossible due to lacking of an 850 radio antenna. But that was a lie obviously. No Radio ROMs are currently avail that have successfully unlocked 850 3G. And since the DIAM130 is the only one working on 850 3G (using a radio ROM that is available for the DIAM100 even), the prevailing thought is it is actually a HW limitation on the DIAM100. I.e. it cannot do 850 3G no matter the radio ROM. (Note that OS ROMs have no effect on the radios ability. However, they might unlock the availability of the frequency selection in the Phone Settings window on WM. Note also that simply the existence of a selection in that window does NOT mean it physically can do that frequency.

3. No radio ROM thus far has made any iteration of the Diamond capable of doing 1700 anything, which is what TMo US would need for its 3G network. So, if a TMo US one is to become available, it would be yet another HW version.

#2 and #3 are still just theory, but pretty solid ones at this point.

So, my question is re: the DIAM130. What other 3G bands is it capable of. Only 850? Is it still quad-band GSM capable? If its flashed with other Radio ROMs, does it still maintain the same capabilities? I'd consider getting one if possible and using it here on AT&T if it is (or can be) quad band GSM and 850 3G. Esp if it still had 2100 3G, or even if it could be flashed when necessary to support 2100 3G when I travel. The lengths I've considered going to for this.

In any case, I lose more and more interest in this product each day. I'm inching closer to a hopeful AT&T Omnia, which too has drama surrounding it. And since I just got my g/f an iPhone 3G, I hate to admit, I'm heavily considering one as well now. What I might lose in flexibility, I think I would gain in having a solid device, that works worldwide 3G, and would keep everything I want in sync.

Sad really. I've been a WM-trooper for a decade now. 80% my music is in WMA format. For the stupidity of these dramas, WM may very well lose a devotee. (And as you can see from my willingness to import the phone and flash it whenever necessary, I'm not just giving up, I'm trying my best. but when the companies make it this hard, you gotta question if its worth it.)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] landshark:
Thanks Jomo!!!

Sounds like we're in the same boat. I won't get an iPone because part of my reason for having the phone is being able to tether to my laptop in an emergency. If the Diamond can't do it, I'll stick with my Trinity, which can. Really, I just want the better form factor...

One thing that has me confused is the whole radio thing. I'm no electrical engineer, but it seems like there are two components to the "radio" of the cellphone.

1.) The hardware - specific physical characteristics like the length of the antenna will determine the frequency you can use. I remember the old days of citizens band radios (that's CBs to those good buddies who saw Convoy <grin>) where you had to change physical crystals to get the right frequencies. Yes, apparently I'm old (geez, when did THAT happen???). I can also see the clock cycle of the radio's DSP determining how quickly the radio can handle packets.

2.) The software - herein lies all the nitty gritty details about protocols and the like - you need to have radio software that uses all of the hardware - like "turning on" the 850 band.

I guess the real questions for you gurus out there are

a.) how much of the UMTS protocol is programmed into the chip versus based on software (more software-based would support there being a software solution)? The chip used in the Diamonds is the Qualcomm 7201 chipset (at least the GSM ones do) which specifically lists UMTS as a capability, so it seems like the software just isn't using it right.

b.) do you need hardware components for each frequency of UMTS?

It just seems that going from GSM to UMTS is a matter of using different software, although you would have to have hardware capable of UMTS speeds. Ifthis is the case, then a hardware solution is possible. If it requires sepcial software to add into the existing software, we may be out of luck until one is created with the right stuff.

Ugh. My head hurts. Learning cellular radio through internet research is not easy. I suppose it would be easier if I were smarter <grin>

Mike
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] landshark:
This may be old news, and still doesn't answer the querstion whether the current batch of Diamonds can be software / ROM updated to do US 3G, but at least there is a device that can - the product name DIAM110 (as opposed to the DIAM100 and DIAM130) has been submitted to the FCC a while back and definitely does do 850 UMTS.

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=5028

Good luck!

Mike
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] TippaFew:
Excellent thread!

Very informative - thanks for doing the research and putting it all in one place! I too am somewhat confused as to the availability of 3G data access on AT&T - this thread has helped me understand some of the technologies involved and raised some interesting questions.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] charly_mx:
3.5G is backwards compatible with 3G

I just read in the wikipedia that 3.5g is backwards compatible with 3G tecnology, so i cant find the point in which Diamonds just CANT use regular 850 3G. Perhaps is just a little tweaking over the HW. But I believe it will be done sooner or later :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] bruce0126:
DIAM100 with RTR6285?

Thanks for the informative post. I've been looking for the answer to this question long before I got my diamond. Here's what I've found so far. Hope it helps.

According to this page and this page, Diamond uses Qualcomm RTR6285 as its RF Transceiver. And based on the press release from Qualcomm,

The RTR6285 transceiver supports the following bands:

* North American triple-band UMTS (bands 2, 4, 5)

* Japanese triple-band UMTS (bands 1, 6, 9)

* European, Chinese and rest-of-world triple-band UMTS (bands 1, 3, 8)

* Global quadruple-band GSM and EDGE (800/900/1800/1900 MHz)

Note that "North American triple-band UMTS (bands 2, 4, 5)" means it supports 1900MHz, 1700MHz, and 850MHz

Here's the wiki page that lists the UMTS frequency bands

Many users on this forum mentioned that Diamond lacks 850MHz 3G support due to the hardware limitation, but that contradicts the RTR6285 press release. Can somebody please confirm that DIAM100 uses RTR6285:confused:?

Thanks,

Bruce
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ricarroyo88:
WOW!!! bruce0126 you just make my day!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] frozenwaffles:
Keep the dream alive people!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
So if its the same Hardware then what is keeping the phone from working on UMTS 850 band?

The ROM is activated for the North American frequencies so its not a ROM issue.

Thats ODDDDDDD
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chribruu:
could it be lack of antenna for those specific bands?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] charly_mx:
we need a techwiz!!

Ive seen the specs also and the radio hardware is supposed to recieve at 850mhz, perhaps the transmited has been " Programmed" in factory to forbid the use of this particular band. Of course im only guessing.

Any one has a good new about american 3G in our DIAM100 ??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] charly_mx:
Mods Can You Make This Thread Sticky?

I wnder wy the Mods havent dne this thread as sticky ;O

Sticky it please! :cool:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
Because maybe the majority of the users here are not in USA??? :confused:

So who cares?:confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] anti-static:
With regard to this, I found this post on dismantling the Diamond (I assume the diam100), which should confirm that the DIAM100 has the RTR6285.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Vector-SS:
But is the antenna physically there? Or with the Diam100 having the RTR6285 should automatically conclude that it does have the antenna?

If so how come no Radios were able to activate it for North American users? :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Armando.Roque:
just want to keep the dream alive... I also think it's possible since it has the ability of 850 voice
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] landshark:
Armando -

Sorry to kill the dream. The DIAM100 does have the hardware to transmit voice / GSM at 850 mhz. It DOES NOT have the hardware to transmit UMTS (HSPDA/Data) at 850 mhz, only at 900mhz (European). HTC created a new model of the Diamond, the DIAM110 that transmits UMTS at 850 Mhz but NOT at 900 Mhz. So, you can't get a phone that transmits quad band UMTS (US and Eur UMTS-capable). HTC even explained this was a deliberate hardware decision and that they do not currently plan on supporting both European and US UMTS on one phone since doing so would require 5 bands.

If you want US 3G, you can buy a DIAM110, eXpansys is selling them and told me they'd be shipping them out today.

Thank you for posting to this thread rather than creating yet another thread on US 3G.

Mike
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ricarroyo88:
hello the diamond americas is now available for purchase

http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND_US

I think that someone is going to upload the ROM
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] landshark:
Or you can save $185 and get it from eXpansys:

http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=172644

Looks like eXpansys sold out of their first batch - they promised me mine would ship out today and I'd get it on Monday.

It's going to be a loooong weekend <grin>

Mike
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
Supposed to be shipped out today but just recieved an emai

l confirming the shiping on monday due to weather conditions:(:(

For some reason i think they used the weather as an excuse for the delay.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] patriciogac:
...posted by viperbjk in the TouchPro 3G forum:

"Ok .. I had a look on both firmwares.

I can now confirm, that both radios seem to use the same CPU :

MSM7201A Revision J

Also the supported bands are on both firmwares the same.

The band items can be enabled.

Ok ... so now we only need to know which RTR chipset the fuze and touch pro use.

If the RTR chipset is also the same, then chances for enabling the missing bands are high.

Form datasheet, the RTR in Fuze must be RTR6285.

Can anybody confirm the RTR in Touch Pro (Raphael) ?

As for Diamond, I can confirm that a RTR6285 is used.

So that one is able to recieve the WCDMA 800-850 bands after enabling.

For WCDMA850/800 we will need to write the correct calib values to nvitems,

and also enable these bands (bandclasses) in the nvitem 1877 and 1878.

Of course radio must support these bands and ROM also has to feature all bands. As far as I can see that, they both do.

Diamond firmware does already support WCDMA800 ... if it supports WCDMA850, I've got to reverse that.

Also we need to see if this feature is pid enabled. So we might need to patch that too.

Cya,

Viper BJK"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=26

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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] randyrubb:
Here the same

I jaut can repeat the wish of using an HTC Phone like the Diamond. But i switched for some reasons to a iPhone. Waiting for a soloution on the Diamond. Ready to sell either the Iphone or the Diamond.

If i look back to Germany where i from it is a nightmare and Big Babylon here in the US . THer eis NO problem with about 1000 differnt phones to flip and swap every day as much as you want only the US does mess up the whole sh... with thier own frequence.

Enough now, but i had one of the so called 850 radios on it and at the Airport in Atlanta i seen once for a few seconds the 3G sign on my Diamond display. Believe me i was not drunk... but since then never again... so wonder what that could be and if it maybe just was an little error and never really had 3G.

If anyone can help me out like the guys before would be great .

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] caco26:
HSDPA 850Mhz

buenas, si alguien me puede ayudar genial, resulta que poseo el celular Lg fathom vs750 dentro de las caracteristicas de este encuentro la compatibilidad tanto de procesador como de celular con las redes 3g

.........................................................

2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network HSDPA 850

/ 900 / 1900 / 2100

CDMA/EVDO 800/1900

..........................................................

y el precesador es el Snapdragon QSD8650

(GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/WCDMA, HSDPA, HSUPA, MBMS, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev. 1, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev. B, baseband)

en mi pais se trabaja la red 3g con la HSDPA 850mhz pero mi celular no la reconoce, quisiera saber que puedo hacer para resolver este problema:confused: algun programa o algo que le haga reconocer esta frecuencia, gracias :D:)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] abduls27:
I'm planning to buy s20 Exynos version mobile. I am aware that it had heating issue and battery drain issue when it was launched but I found online reveiws that it was fixed by recent firmware update.

Can you guys please tell me whether it was fixed? How is the battery backup now? Does heating problem solved?

Your answers will help me to take a good decision.

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Gungcho:
As 2 month s20 Exynos user i can say - it depends. Antennas are either poor or the networking optimization is **** - i have weaker phone signal with the S20 than with my old mate 20 pro. Yes if you live and work in a area with good 4g/wifi you will not have this problem( at home i get about 20-24h usage per charge and 5-6h sot), if not you might experience severe battery drain ( at work where my network coverage is **** i have 5-8% stand-by drain, which i did not have with my mate 20 pro). Now it is really hot in Belgium so the phone is hot, but if the weather is normal it will only get hot when you use it a lot( i made it hit 40 degrees when i was taking pictures for about 2h straight), other than this no excessive overheating. It is a good phone, i really like it, but the battery drain and the need to charge 20-40% at work so i will last the day is not okay. I can only hope updates will improve this but if not i'd recommend basically any other non samaung phone if you live/work in poor coverage areas( at work a college with an iphone has 0 problems and have finished the day with 80% battery left, he is on the same network).
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] abduls27:
Thanks for your feedback. I'm expecting more user feedbacks.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] abduls27:
Any other feedbacks please? I'm expecting more users feedback
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Nowa Concordia:
After reading so many reviews on the internet and having experienced Exynos on my former S8, I went with the Snapdragon9810 variant from Hongkong at the risk of warranty issues etc.

But I must tell you, so far this phone has been giving me consistent battery life, performance. No signal issues, VOLTE ,VOWIFI works seamlessly. Haven't had the chance to try the 5G since 5G is not availability is very limited in my country.

No heating issues at all. Used for extended periods on the first few days out of excitement, yet felt nothing compared to former Exynos.

Only disappointment for me so far had been native call recording is disabled and eSIM support is also disabled. Both of which could have been regulars for me if they were available.

So I'd like to suggest you, reevaluate your options and never settle with a half baked exynos.

Good luck!!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] abduls27:
In india they sell Exynos version only. I could not buy Snapdragon version. That's the problem here. I still prefer buying Exynos but I would like to know the battery performance
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] dalanik:
After a week using S20 plus 5G (coming from S8plus) I must say the heating problem exists. My s8+ never heated that much! And not that I'm doing god knows what with the phone, just standard suage - Faceboo, messenger, news app, mail....
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] abduls27:
**** it's too much bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Klopers33:
What firmware are you on? I am here on atg9 and doesnt seem to have any of your problems?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] dalanik:
July 1st update, ATG4 I suppose.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Sohag0910:
Using Exynos version of S20+ for about 3 months. Yes the phone occasionally get hot once or twice a week.. Battery backup is decent getting 5-7 hours of SOT. I don't play heavy games like PUBG, just play some lite games. but phone become warm while using camera app for extensive time. If you play heavy games go for oneplus but camera & display is better in s20 than op8pro. Lastly if you are not a gamer you will definitely enjoy s20 exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] MilgeS:
General use I find it is ok but using Android Auto it gets ridiculously hot, yesterday it was 50c according to CPU Monitor app
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] ilia3367:
[IMG="Root-TWRP"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a06A9VQmTSNzcz5XEozg5Mzs9gWNtrCh8JdkjuIkZNwW4C2rmWv-QxZdWFlzIvNobjx_m4l_Wret1o5yjRDXX25ULxB2qSIstcHX4yPsw8lRlrQ5pqPb52jjbJjlxOR_3pL3Th4pxrVGvX6L0yg__QBbAf-Z_yY4Xw67v-Qsf7kzjdEXo0Ag_x5Hf3foC3R_cLJ75YIi6WjjdjNj2D9ie7aTLz7ea57Bu1PFj81__K4dmrodlM66O6Vuv7C_UOcGtb3I4xAVihQQIwwMyyPRYoQrSxOaHEpZ4lA4LVSPEYSFjlK9d6LX4BiQzPaT8Lkmj5pqYN-_0ryRX_5mz1IfPkBBh2zjQblbcnk02isIcn752_vjOh6eGHcHvzag-Ufm6yjoAGCZvXnaAvqk0X1Lrsc_lcz3SXQ4HYZzgGm1cW04tsR0HDGwSt_7B6v59KKiB4d_P9PoEx_WURmaSMlLETE191ix5iVoZPCw7G-t1-merZ7omVIEgcjB9aAotSoRsXp-QY4tqDxxBUU8cSwKozpvj2frAGYg77Hz8ONWK30PWnhjNcvf1G6UPCA4K_rCi98h1NtvWyjntcfGIgjWRSO7F_JzvnOPeZcx3rWo1qrurw9EwncpBOJQFLiVtlYgn-DNuItu_ro4OHrFxIIUb3M3GrpdtJC8Oi-8cFI1T928Rllg_JVbmygMy4xurw=w180-h101-no?authuser=0[/IMG]

Root & TWRP 3.4.0 for Android 10.​

Page on the official TWRP website https://twrp.me/motorola/motorolaonevision.html

Installation Instruction

1. Download twrp-3.4.0-0-kane.img and twrp-installer-3.4.0-0-kane.zip TWRP, patched vbmeta.img and Magisk-disable-dm-verity-v20.4.zip (see in the attached files).

2. Copy files:

- twrp-3.4.0-0-kane.img and vbmeta_patch.img to the folder adb with the adb & fastboot drivers;

- twrp-installer-3.4.0-0-kane.zip, Magisk-disable-dm-verity-v20.4.zip on SD Card.

3. Boot the phone in fastboot mode, connect it to a PC and perform the following commands:

fastboot flash vbmeta C:\adb\vbmeta_patch.img

fastboot boot C:\adb\twrp-3.4.0-0-kane.img

The phone will load into TWRP.

4. Go to "Install". Click on "Select Storage" button, select Micro SDCard, OK. Install twrp-installer-3.4.0-0-kane.zip.

5. Go to "Wipe" and press Format Data for deencryption. Enter Yes on request. We go to TWRP Main Menu and reboot again in Recovery.

6. Go to "Install". Click on "Select Storage" button, select Micro SDCard, OK. Install Magisk-disable-dm-verity-v20.4.zip.

7. Reboot into the system.
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] daekdroom:
Has anyone succesfully decrypted data when booting TWRP? I've wiped after installing the ZIP and I cannot decrypt data there. I've tried changing device password from PIN to pass, as it requires me to type a password in TWRP, and I still can't decrypt there.
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] alphalog:
No problems here.

adb fastboot boot twrp_3.4.0-0.img and then flash twrp_3.4.0-0 zip in TWRP.

Havoc OS booting fine.

Gesendet von meinem Phh-Treble vanilla mit Tapatalk
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] daekdroom:
I think something's messed up with my phone by transitioning from the older TWRP to the newer one :(

Edit: My device fails to fastboot boot twrp after I try reflashing the entire firmware. I think it has something to do with the edited vbmeta file I was using before, because it boots when I flash the patched vbmeta file this TWRP doesn't need.
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] gonzo1963:
Good morning,

Currently, I have installed the version you patched, 3.3.1.

Can it be installed from the "unofficial" version: https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=80352223?.

Does it give a problem, or does it work perfectly?

Regards

Enviado desde mi unknown mediante Tapatalk
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] daekdroom:
The official TWRP instructions do not mention it, but you still need the patched vbmeta file for booting TWRP. Also, encryption is not working as of QSAS30.62-24-10 and 62-24-7 ROMs. I ended up going back to this TWRP version https://xdaforums.com/one-vision/how-to/twrp-3-3-1-0-root-updated-kane-troika-t4102839
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] gonzo1963:
Good afternoon,

Has anyone tried to install this TWRP starting from a firmware "no touch" ("clean install")?

Regards
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] Nevil Sebastian:
Decryption may or may not work with different OS releases, it's mentioned in TWRP downloads section of this device.

---------- Post added at 07:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:05 AM ----------

Yes, from what I heard it doesn't boot through fastboot boot either with patched vbmeta or clean ROM. If you are rooted, you can use magisk module TWRP installer, but after flashing you will loose root access asusual or you can flash recovery ramdisk through existing recovery. Also don't forget unofficial builds.
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] gonzo1963:
Good morning,

From what I understand it doesn't work well in either case, does it?.

So what is it for, is it better to use the old "patched" TWRP: https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=82629961?

Regards

Enviado desde mi unknown mediante Tapatalk
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] Nevil Sebastian:
You can use whichever build you want. We should wait until everything gets solved slowly.
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] gonzo1963:
Good morning,

Thanks for the reply, but ...

This new and official TWRP, does it work 100% or not?

Regards
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] ilia3367:
I did the Instruction to install TWRP and geting Root.
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] JG420:
Do I have to unlock my bootloader first before doing this? I just noticed we finally have a custom ROM for the One Vision! This finally makes it worth while to unlock, install TWRP, install a custom ROM and root this thing finally!
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] HourlongTuna5:
[How do you install HavocOS? Is there any ROM source?]
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] menovek:
delete this
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] alphalog:
Havoc-OS GSI

Havoc-OS Generic System Image for all devices

www.pling.com

Telegram@havocgsi
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] tin0o:
So which TWRP do you recommend? The latest version (3.4.0-0)? Or the older version (3.3.1-0) ??
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] alphalog:
3.4.0-0 (for gsi and stock image)
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] alphalog:
Download TWRP for kane

Download TWRP Open Recovery for kane

eu.dl.twrp.me
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] coolkillerpk:
Hi....

Should i use this method for android 11 ?
[Motorola One Vision ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & O] dengluw:
Android 11 root