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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
These are the pics of sd version i have.

Bought from hongkong via friend. Btw he activated it there on some 5g sim...as he was told that otherwise 5g issues will remain.. he bought two and one is being used on telstra in sydney..5g working in cbd area
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fizzingbees:
Thank you so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Sending mine back. It’s got a green tint when viewing dark gray images at nighttime. Sure and hell ain’t risking 4 digits with that hovering over my head with no warranty.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] fizzingbees:
Can unlock developer options and then connect to internet to see if you have oem unlock option present or not?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] papubhai:
Yes unlockable...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] bahardman:
I purchased a brand new phone on ebay from playfone.go for $1085.00 plus $8.00 shipping. I received the phone in 2 days in perfect condition. The phone is a SM-N9860 Snapdragon 865+ 12GB RAM 256GB Storage and dual sim. The phone came from Taipei, Taiwan.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tltrambo:
Guys I'm new here, I read the whole thing page by page and I gotta tell, you guys are amazing!!.

I live in the US, and I was even considering the SM-N9860, I heard the issues with 5G and it kinda worries me since I live in a good 5G compatible area. My carrier is AT&T and sadly ALL the note 20 ultras 512gb ON WHITE have sold and I can't find anything ANYWHERE. Does anyone know if there is a hidden seller out there selling these rare treasures? lol. Its so frustrating that I'll have to buy 128 or 256 just because they decided to not make anymore 512gb on white version.

How does the HK N9860 works on the US? I live in Florida, close to Tampa. Is there anyone here living in the US with one of these badboys?

PS. IF ANYONE knows any seller that is selling either a HK SM-N9860 or a SM-N986U (the US VERSION) 512gb white samsung galaxy note 20 ultra 5g LET ME KNOW!!, i will definetly buy it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
You obviously didn't read enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tltrambo:
why is that?!?!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tltrambo:
I read it again, I guess I missed it again lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Try reading other threads about the sm-n9860 on XDA. In particular the ones where folks inc myself have actually used said device on

Consider this your lucky day. You won't get 5G in the USA with the sm-n9860 nor carrier aggregation. You're welcome.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mooatreides:
i got mine off ebay for a great price, sealed box with headphones and clear case. Sent from Hong Kong by fedex super fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tltrambo:
When? I've been searching like a madman for a mystic white note 20 ultra with 512gb and nothing, they seem to be extinct :cautious::cautious:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Mooatreides:
ahh idk I think they had the white? i got the black
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Hcr2020:
Could you please say what are the content of the box purshased through t-dimension ? and the type of charger ? thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] Chiiirific:
I have a HK/China (don't know if those two are different) variant. I was wondering why Playstore is not pre-installed?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Ordered! Will order 256 version in White version since there is no White in 512GB... Shipping in early September....:crying:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Congrats! I ordered black one with 512Gb.

I hope they will ship earlier, can't wait! :)

We definitely need to test them inside out to see how they perform :)

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Yes, the HK one is probably the best and most advanced option right now.

No idea why VoLTE doesn't work, however, looking to Reddit, it looks like it works for some people / operators. So I assume it might be something to do with a specific mobile operator. It would be a good idea to test a few sim cards and see which operator supports it.

I will test it with Three and EE UK sim cards so will at least know if both of them are working fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
I understand. I use unlocked variants here in Japan and I have the VoLte symbol on right now, so it should be good to go for the HK version. I went with the 256 White as well. Got some testing and reporting to do once I actually do have it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Yes that will be beast for sure... Exynos is just joke and "unofficial" the reason why they dont allow QHD + 120HZ. They said that is problem in Exynos bandwith and probably also heating :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
I guess this wont work either

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_Wireless

How did u find bands, in other words - i want to find what exynos model would work in North America
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
I think you wont find since Exynos is developed for GSM freq. and you need CDMA...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Yes, Exynos will most likely won't work there.

I personally stopped rooting phones for a few years now as many banking apps refuse to work properly. I am also a heavy Knox user so flashing is always a gamble unless there is a reliable method.

I wonder if integrated Hiyya spam blocker will work on HK version? Didn't find any info about this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
Well that sucks rogers here in Canada uses 2600/600 for 5G so it wont work for me and i almost ordered a HK version the other day!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
What do u plan to get?

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For those in North America - Canada specially in Vancouver - http://www.easycellular.ca/products/samsung.html sells international variants, I am in touch with him via text all the time so if u dont want to order international and pay duty etc
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
im at a standstill right now honestly.

i need 512gb and dont really want black butni also want 5g to work since im dropping 2k on a device.

its annoying to say the least.

i know about easy cell....they seem to be a good company to deal with.

ive ordered from PDA plaza and lots of devices i have bought from swiftronics (both Canadian).

just need to find a 512gb snapdragon in either white or bronze that is compatible with rogers 5g bands. if thats even possible. wifi calling probably wont work in any non rogers bought device since they are dicks like that
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
5g only possible with Canadian Version right, dont see any other way
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
sadly thats how its looking so far.

for sure the Korean versions 5G bands dont line up...not sure about the HK version yet since i haven't seen any information on them
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] scomat:
From Wondamobile.com website under the question and answers section.

https://www.wondamobile.com/samsung...e-sim-free-and-unlocked.html#product_question

It is Qualcomm with Dual Sim version. Please check the bands with your Carrier

4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700) 4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)

5G Sub-6 FDD: N1(2100) / 5G Sub-6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)

WondaMobile answered on 12 August 2020
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dallen5:
Is he getting the HK version?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
To be honest I know 5G is included in the name, yet I don't think a lot of markets are mature enough to take advantage of it...I think this year of smartphones are the early adopters of the technology... After doing research on the availability of 5G in the country I'm in, it's not even worth it...Seems to be a slow roll out in Japan...I advise others to really take the availability into consideration before making a decision on a particular model...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
thanks for that, answers the question about HK devcies and rogers 5g.

not compatible same as korean version, rogers uses 2600/600 for 5G.

so im either stuck buying a black one or just passing on it all together

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
[/QUOTE

very true and this is an excellent point...no sense getting hung up on 5G if you cant even use it.

For me 5g is readily available so it matters for sure[/QUOTE]

By chance would you have a good reference point on 5G band labeling? ...I know the frequency for Japan, yet can't definitely track how that matches with the listed 5G bands for the N20 Ultra...I know Japan is doing a slow rollout but I would like to know what bands to keep an eye out for
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
By chance would you have a good reference point on 5G band labeling? ...I know the frequency for Japan, yet can't definitely track how that matches with the listed 5G bands for the N20 Ultra...I know Japan is doing a slow rollout but I would like to know what bands to keep an eye out for[/QUOTE]

for my carrier rogers i found what i needed on Wikipedia of all places lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
He gets both -Exynos and HK, choice is urs

The damn conundrum is - do we spend to get Dual SIM's and forget 5G or got for 5G NA version and forget the Dual SIM and offourse no rooting

I am thinking if I am spending, then go for Note10+

So confused

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for my carrier rogers i found what i needed on Wikipedia of all places lol[/QUOTE]

What did u find abt roger, I am with telus but I can get corporate rogers plan, actually cheaper too
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] dallen5:
He gets both -Exynos and HK, choice is urs

The damn conundrum is - do we spend to get Dual SIM's and forget 5G or got for 5G NA version and forget the Dual SIM and offourse no rooting

I am thinking if I am spending, then go for Note10+

So confused

The HK version can be rooted...the Note 10+ Hk was rooted
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
What did u find abt roger, I am with telus but I can get corporate rogers plan, actually cheaper too[/QUOTE]

rogers 5g frequencies are 2600/600

so neither the Korean nor HK snapdragon will work which sucks. i need 512gb and I dont want black which is all thats available. I may pass on the 20 this year...not sure just yet but dropping $2300 for a phone i dont like the colour of just bugs me .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
In case anyone is in Japan...Per the 5G bands listed on WondaMobile and per this forum, https://www.everythingrf.com/community/5g-frequency-spectrum-in-japan , It would seem the HK variant will support 2 out of 3 5G bands (N78 and N79) in Japan. Yet that still does not do much as the 5G coverage is almost non-resistant unless you are in a handful of major cities. Reasonable 5G coverage will not occur until late 2021/early 2022.

As I mentioned before, people should make sure that they do good band research, and not fully commit to 5G being a selling point, unless it is readily available where they live.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Thats true, 5G is not mature yet. And the current outbreak means that 5G implementation will freeze this year.

Even in the UK only a handful of cities get 5G and people generally complain on 5G broadband speed.

However, we spend so much money and want all the features to work, regardless if we are going to use them.

My concern is that even though Snapdragon has a better reception, it might not be properly optimised to work with networks outside of its region (carrier aggregation, etc) and as a result the same 4G reception might be weaker. This is something imported S20 owners can advise on but I failed to find any specific info.

Also, I am not sure the built-in Hiyya spam call block will be enabled or working outside of the region. It is a VERY useful feature, at least for me.

Last but not least I am not sure how often we will get software updates vs regional/Exynos versions.

I am going to do a detailed review and check all the features once will get the phone.

Have you guys found and camera comparison info between the Exnyos and Snap on Note 20? I wonder if they are much different.

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By the way I was chatting with Samsung HK support the other day and they advised Note 20 Ultra 5G 512Gb will cost around 980 pounds. So Wonda is making a nice profit + they keep all extra goodies Samsung gives with the phones (new beans, gamepad, xbox pass, etc).

I hope next year Samsung will finally develop a good processor and we wont have to import it from somewhere else.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Ok, so I was comparing GSM specs of Note 20 Ultra 5G from Wonda and S20 Ultra 5G from Samsung UK (https://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphones/galaxy-s20/specs) to see if the phone can be used globally and found that the difference is that:

Note 20 Ultra 5G HK: Supports extra band - B34 (2010) that is lacking in UK Exynos version

S20 Ultra 5G UK (Exynos): It has these extra bands that Note 20 Ultra 5G HK lacks:

3G BANDS B4(AWS),

4G FDD-LTE B17(700), B32(1500), B66(AWS-3)

5G FDD Sub6 N3(1800), N5(850), N7(2600), N8(900), N28(700)

5G TDD Sub6 N40(2300), N77(3700)

All other bands match between these 2 phones.

So, if we look to 5G bands from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_5G_NR_networks then we'll see the Note 20 Ultra 5G HK has no issues to use in the UK (all UK 4G and 5G bands match), however its 5G might not fully work in the countries (or specific operators within) below as it lacks the bands used in global Exynos version:

N3: Germany, Netherlands, Belarus

N5: US

N7: Belarus, Brazil

N28: Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden

N40: Austria

N77: Japan

However, this is just my guess from the info I've got so it can be inaccurate. Also, we don't have official specs from Samsung UK (or other Exynos region) regarding the GSM specs to compare.

It might be worth to check your local Samsung website for S20 Ultra 5G specs and compare against Note 20 Ultra 5G HK to see which bands are missing.

Surprisingly, Note 10 Ultra 5G in the UK lacks all 5G bands apart from N78 that is used in the UK. So it seems it is less global??

For the UK, it seems that all 4G and 5G bands match so it should work as expected.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
[/COLOR]By the way I was chatting with Samsung HK support the other day and they advised Note 20 Ultra 5G 512Gb will cost around 980 pounds. So Wonda is making a nice profit + they keep all extra goodies Samsung gives with the phones (new beans, gamepad, xbox pass, etc).

I hope next year Samsung will finally develop a good processor and we wont have to import it from somewhere else.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't put too much stock into what a Samsung rep says....As well as they are making a profit that's to be expected with them providing import services, especially paying the import fees...I don't think they get all the extra goodies as those are tired directly to the phones with some requiring email verification, yet let's ask them, they seem pretty responsive...

5G is tricky.... Yet it seems the HK variant still comes out better rounded... I'm looking forward to seeing the power difference between snapdragon and exynos... I've always had unlocked exynos phones, and the performance gap between exynos/snapdragon was substantial last year
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] karthigan:
rogers 5g frequencies are 2600/600

so neither the Korean nor HK snapdragon will work which sucks. i need 512gb and I dont want black which is all thats available. I may pass on the 20 this year...not sure just yet but dropping $2300 for a phone i dont like the colour of just bugs me .[/QUOTE]

How about using this so called "Samsung Band Selection" app? - link: https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/g49ocr/app_samsung_band_selection_app/ or https://xdaforums.com/s10-plus/how-to/app-samsung-band-selection-app-helps-t4089117

Apparently the XDA link was posted on S10+ forum, and the app does not require ROOT (which is a plus)

Would this help with the Hong Kong variant of SM-N9860, using Snapdragon chipset so that the phone is "forced" to use a specific 5G signal / band in the designated area ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
How about using this so called "Samsung Band Selection" app? - link: https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/g49ocr/app_samsung_band_selection_app/ or https://xdaforums.com/s10-plus/how-to/app-samsung-band-selection-app-helps-t4089117

Apparently the XDA link was posted on S10+ forum, and the app does not require ROOT (which is a plus)

Would this help with the Hong Kong variant of SM-N9860, using Snapdragon chipset so that the phone is "forced" to use a specific 5G signal / band in the designated area ?[/QUOTE]

that would only work if the phone is capable of those bands.

if you read the thread it seems most of the users are in USA and since all US devices are the same they are capable of the same bands. some carriers force use of their bands and that app allows you to jump bands if you want.

it works because the US devices can use all the bands if the phone is not capable of the bands we need then it wont work.

thats my take on it anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] liamR:
Can someone confirm that CN/HK have build in call recording?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Nobody got it. But just got yesterday for my gf Note 10+ Hk version and it had app call recorder installed on it, so probably same on Note 20 Ultra. Otherwise you can download ACR just from Galaxy store its working fine and its free. Just got the info that wondamobile will start shipping Note 20 Ultra from 2-3 September.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Would you be able to check for VoLte settings in the mobile network settings? I'm curious about the snapdragon variation having it on the Note 10+. Also I don't see much being said about the 4/5G low band signal booster introduced with the N20U. Could make a nice difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
So just to be clear, would this dual sim snapdragon version work in the US on 4G on ATT?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
4G/LTE = No issue, 5G nada
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
guys Ultra 5G SM-N986N has snap ? it's cheaper on ebay

i don't know if it has snap or not

the seller said its snap but i dont know if bootloader is locked or not
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
N986N - isnt that Korean, its sure snap but some folks said korean versons have issues
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
Damn I guess I’m gonna have to wait

I just sold my note 10 plus

Got no phone now lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
I have a korean Note FE which works perfectly fine for me here in Canada.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] west2cool:
You can also use this website as I have purchase from them before.

https://www.t-dimension.com/uk/top-cell-phones.html
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
The Korean one has only 1 sim card slot, comes with bloatware preinstalled that cannot be removed and seems to have slightly different bands, hence the lower price.

Do you guys think the HK version will have camera fog issue that was discovered recently? They say only Korean ones have it so far but Korean and HK ones might be from the same batch...

Also, I was watching lately that the camera in S20 seems to be better on Exynos than Snap (which can be related to the fact that Exynos gets faster updates).

I wonder if this is still the case for Note 20. Camera quality is really important....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Where did u buy it from? is it dual sim? and unlocked? for rooting

I guess, no 5g
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] maxpaynezm:
Here is HK version :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_37XNft7f48
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] force70:
Well its from 2017 so no.....def no 5g lol.

Its rootable bit given its limited run i left it alone.

Got it on Ebay the second they went on sale, loved the Note 7 so much I had to get it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] evangelionpunk:
Has anyone checked the Taiwanese eg SM-N9860ZKGBRI version and its bands?

There is some talk of its 5g frequencies being updated and expanded with future firmware releases (don't understand the language).

n1, n78 and n257 are confirmed active 5g bands in Taiwan so far. Historically Taiwan handset's have been pretty global including US/CA and usable all across their region Japan/China included. If firmware update is how they plan to add other bands on then they might bring others like 77, 79, 258, 261 too?

Can someone comfortable in Taiwanese or in Taiwan confirm this?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Thanks a lot! Too bad I can't understand a thing from the video and comments ))
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
I misunderstood it as N20
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] maxpaynezm:
hi,

is it safe to order from this site? do you have any experience with them?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] west2cool:
Did you not read. Why would I say you can use them if I didn't myself.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] LightCCB:
Not compatible with 5g networks in the US

I looked at a bunch of retail sales sites, and according to them the N9860 has only 5G bands n1/n78/n79. That means it would not function on any US 5G network. Also, according to the retailers, VOLTE may not work in the US, which is a big problem - Verizon relies very heavily on VOLTE for voice calling. It does however have all the US 4G data bands. All that said, I think this model would not be a satisfactory experience on Verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Guys, I am getting worried about fog and dust issues many people reported. I asked Wonda about this but got a generic reply to check their warranty page on website. That page doesn't say anything specific, so I assume if we ship it back, they will contact Samsung to repair it. But if Samsung refuse to acknowledge the issue and repair, then we will potentially get the same phone back with defect and won't able to return it. It is a bit of gamble.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
I think this will not be the case with our telephone... I think there were some high temperature changes which result in fog inside (condensation). I think those were even review units.... I think is no big deal since on reddit didn't get backed up by others... There are some problems with green tint in some displays, but there is no phone which was perfect all units. There is still 14 days guarantee to ship back and worst case scenario you pay shipping + 30 punds fee. I will wait till end of this week but i dont think i will cancel the order.