yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
You should only rename .bin to .zip not compress it again. Also, if it's encrypted you will get zip errors. Just rename and retry.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Thank you for this infirmation..🍺
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Still a no go. Could it be custom recovery?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
For sure is. I have one I can flash to the target and attempt if you'd want
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
I flashed stock recovery. Now getting Invalid Argument Failed to mount sd card
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
And yes, that would be great. I will send in PM
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
Try sideload
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
I take that back. Goodlock was updated, but it's ALL sorts of broke
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] randy_c:
I got update today from att 2.5gb and downloading
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] LuvrGirl:
I didn't want to check for the OTA update until I had finished some setups from my Note 8 that I switched from. I checked for it last night and got the OTA update.

Now on to find out what's new with this update :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Good to see ya over here. Congrats on the upgrade
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] LuvrGirl:
Thanks! I'm glad I made the switch... I'm loving it :love:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] bammons88:
Question i have an unlocked 986U1. I'm on visible wireless my carrier sw ver is FKR/FKR/XAA. I never seen FKR csc region code before. Using Frija if I put fkr as the csc it comes up with fw n986u1ueu1atj4 which is October security patch..if I use XAA as the csc I get the latest atk1 firmware for December. My note 20 ultra has been stuck on the september security patch since I got it and will not pull OTA so I'm going to just flash it with odin..will I be fine flashing the XAA latest or should I use FKR? Not sure why I'm not receiving OTA updates either.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] borijess:
Just downloading the ATT ONE UI 3.0 FOR my stock branded 986U ATT.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] borijess:
Got it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pro_b:
I have a stock ATT branded Note 20 and I can't seem to get the update. However, I don't have a sim card in it right now. Is that needed for the update to pull down?

P.S. I'm still on N986USQU1BTIF because the newer firmware won't download. My phone keep saying up to date.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
It is 100% needed
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Geekser:
I had been using the N986U1 Beta for Android 11 and I wanted to try to get back to ATT firmware and see if I could get that update - so here is what I did:

1) I downloaded and flashed the ATT firmware listed in your post: N986USQU1BTIF - after flashing that (with ATT Userdata) I booted up and went to Settings/Update - and it immediately downloaded and installed the K1 update (with November Security) I then rebooted and went back to Settings/Update - and right away it found a new very large update (over 2GB as I recall) which I am installing right now. Pretty Sure this is going to be the New Android 11 that rolled out earlier today for others who have posted here.

My phone is still going thru the update, installing - so I will soon find out if I am on the New Android 11 - but pretty sure that is what is going to happen - I will post back as soon as I boot up - I wanted to share this if anyone else was wondering what they could do to try to get back to OTA with ATT - if they were on the N986U1 Beta for 11.

Hope this helps someone -

EDIT - just wanted to confirm that I am on Android 11 (ATT) follow the steps above to get OTA Update from ATT. Good Luck!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Yes, that will be you shimmery new Android 11 installing
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Geekser:
:cowboy:(y)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] zazabichi:
Do you have AT&T SIM card or it's not a necessary?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] DPretzelK:
AT&T SIM Card is a MUST to get the OTA.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Lol wish it were that easy for me
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Lol...Kangi

I been doing a lot of tinkering..pulling super.img from firmwares, trying get Odin flashable tars and such with the help of MentalM. So yeah I'm being the test subject for us...lol. still trying get the update.zip to work that I have. MentalM is helping. Plus working on another things. Just hope my device doesn't blow up...lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Thanks about for doing this for us all. I know it can be a bunch of work and really frustrating
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Just wait.....Venom will probably chime in..."oh I already have all that, had it for weeks".🤣😂...just kidding.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Haaaa! I can totally see that happening!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Geekser:
Sorry it isnt working for you - I don't know if this makes a differrence or not, but I am using a Locked ATT device - and while I had stopped getting OTA's when I flashed N986U1 firmware, that all changed when I went back to the FULL STOCK ATT firmware. If you also have an ATT device, I am curious why this doesn't work for you too - regardless - hope you get things working the way yoiu want soon.....best of luck my friend.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Yeah I'm At&t 986U. But I am bootloader unlocked. Went through this a couple weeks ago then I finally got the Ota. Its probably my fault, I do a lot of tinkering...lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
No wait....its At&t fault for not posting firmware🤣😂
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
And here we go again...lol..Tried to trick my device, but check this out. My at&t device is the U version. I flashed unlocked ATH3 for fun. A freaking ota started.....What! how can that happen when my device is the locked version? Soooo I flashed carrier ATH3 and guess what.....no flipping ota
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
Tried the date change trick?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Lol...ohhh yeah, I'm the king of changing date. He'll I even went up to 1yr once to get ota. My 10+ is the same way, as is my Note 9. My 10+ is stuck on last security patch and will not update. But when I put sim in one of my Note 8's ota started immediately. Same with my 10lite and Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
I really think its an At&t problem as so many people on At&t have the same problem but some don't. And that little game they play if you contact them and they say they will push the ota to your device is a bunch of crap.I kinda just deal with it...I mean unless I'm here crying about it😭
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] ad44891:
So how do everyone like Android 11 so far??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
So far having gone through the beta process it was ok. Nothing majorly earth shattering. I personally feel as if samsung did a terrible job of managing the beta test and we will likely see the remaining bugs complained about for months. They just didn't listen and replied with the same canned comments on most posts. I submitted multiple log reports with bug issues and got no where with them. They didn't care to understand. They just wanted to get their "post/comment” count in and play the part.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Lord_Saren:
Does TWRP work on the new Android 11 version? I heard comments on the Twrp thread but noting concrete and it's been dead over there. So was wondering if anyone had the latest ATT and twrp/root
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Elastep:
Same stuff for the most part :) I'd say notifications changes are the most significant. And of course, you get some new glitches (at least in betas). Oh, and they've finally fixed navigation gestures in the third-party launchers (almost).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
It's fine, no issues or bugs that I've seen. TBH, most of what I see different is mainly some UI differences. In call screen, notification background is semi transparent, etc. Nothing makes me go "Why the heck did you change that?"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Venom0642:
Running Smoothly, no issues at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] adj998:
So if I flash the at&t firmware and follow the directions, will I be able to get the OTA for android 11?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Well since I'm not missing out on anything major, I guess its OK that my device won't ota.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Geekser:
So, if you relocked your bootloader, you should be able to start getting OTA's again - it's just a matter of how bad you want them I guess. Best of luck.....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Nah don't need to re-lock bootloader. I have gotten them since I was unlocked..it just takes time. And I seriously don't think it has anything to do with that. Have had this issue since Note 8 and none of those were unlocked. And I think the only way to lock again is with combination firmware ...I think. And not doing that after I paid to have it unlocked..lol...I will just cry about it here🤣😂
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Geekser:
You know more about it than I do - so best of luck and hopefully you won't have to wait too much longer....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] borijess:
Currently on the stock ATT 986U android 11. I am having issues with the navigation gestures. I have to swipe a couple of times to get it registered. Does anyone have this issue or know how to resolve it?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] ad44891:
Finger print scanner seems more accurate, runs smoothly
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
No. This was reported multiple times in beta. They changed the size of the gesture window and that's the problem. They didn't listen.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dj24:
Anyone having any success using a call recording app? I really need this feature for my t-mobile Note 20 ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dj24:
Deleted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
OMG!....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Its just BTK1...lol. but at least I'm back on ota path
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] rjohnstone:
Same here... there is a workaround that makes the gesture window more usable.

Enable gesture hints. It makes the gesture window area a little bigger. The ugly 3 lines will be there, but it's less frustrating than without.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Well got Android 11...Meeehhhh, it's ok.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
All my crying for nothing🤣😂
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
This thread gives me at least one good laugh a week! Thanks for this weeks chuckle butchieboy!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Glad I could help Kangi
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] pimpmaneaton:
Looks like TMobile is pushing CTL2, sammobile has firmware. Waiting for some U1 or Verizon love on CTL2.

Latest Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G firmware

Download the latest Samsung firmware for Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G with model code SM-N986B. Check out our free download or super fast premium options.

www.sammobile.com
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Venom0642:
TMOBILE and Sprint went with AT&T N986USQU1CTL2 Firmware Android 11 .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] sliverr7x:
Just received Android 11 on T-Mobile ota dl it now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
I have it uploading to AFH for those who want a better download source...

and my phone hates me this morning... soon as i flashed it... it must have corrupted my unlock pin... so i'm probably going to have to fact reset...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
here's a link for the OP...

SM-N986U_20201218_TMB_N986USQU1CTL2-N986UOYN1CTL2-N986USQU1CTL2-N986USQU1CTL2.zip | by dottat for Note 20 Ultra 5G

Download GApps, Roms, Kernels, Themes, Firmware, and more. Free file hosting for all Android developers.

www.androidfilehost.com

SM-N986U_20201218_TMB_N986USQU1CTL2-N986UOYN1CTL2-N986USQU1CTL2-N986USQU1CTL2.zip
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] jsminnis:
Will this work on the Verizon phone like any other carrier version? I do know that if I want to get ota's from Verizon, I will have to flash to a matching verizon build eventually, unless they go with this build.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
as long as you don't flash userdata it should work fine....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] hayabusa1300cc:
I'm unlocked on Sprint, running Beta 3. Will I receive the OTA you have on this version or Android 10?

What were you on? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
They will eventually send an OTA for the unlocked version.. however they are usually last which is why a lot of people jump back to U firmware since the carriers often get it first. So far there's been no OTA from beta to official.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] RMax69:
Just to make sure before I mess up my phone. I have an unlocked AT&T using XAA firmware with an AT&T home file. This gives me wifi calling. I can use this firmware to go to Android 11 and keep my old AT&T home file?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Looks like its for SPR too

Link added to the OP, thanks @dottat
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Venom0642:
I will upload a mirror later.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Venom0642:
Insane battery life on Android 11 over 10 SOT.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
I hate that. But boy do I love a clean install. Running rooted Android 11
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Teehee..you beat Venom to upload.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Venom0642:
Lol 😆good at least someone else is helping with links.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
I try I try I try...lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] keredini:
[MENTION=360014]kangi26[/MENTION] thanks for fixing the U1 ATT link ... flashed on my ATT phone and no more ATT bloatware ... hotspot still works!!!

EDIT: Samsung Pay is telling me my card is invalid, though it's the same card i used on my Note 9 (both on U and U1 firmwares) and two days ago on my Note 20 before I flashed U1. Not sure if related to the U1 or if Samsung thinks i'm trying to register to multiple devices and decided to block it...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] ahenderson223:
The same thing happen to me when I was adding my primary debit card to Samsung pay. It happened when I was on the stock AT&T software as well. It let me add other cards though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] naim1234:
I am hearing that AT&T will eventually allow all the carrier features on the samsung unlocked devices anyway.. Now with the hotspot, does the US unlocked hotspot not go against our usage if our plan has hotspot already included? For example, I have 10 GB hotspot in my plan but if i use hotspot on my N20 ultra will it count against 10 GB or just be seen as regular data usage?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] gotojanoo:
Will that erase all my installed app data?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Not if you use Hone_csc instead of just csc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] plastik46:
i'm a bit confused is this link the U1 firmware?

N986U1SQU1ATH3 ATT Unlocked LINK Thanks to
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] sunnyo_ola:
Same here. Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Digitaldeath187:
I thanks can't believe it but the unlocked version came with a little bit of blote
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] streetracer8605:
Thank you and mm60 so much for this. I couldn't figure out how to get back on the unlocked firmware with Frija but I managed to get the unlocked XAA firmware from SamMobile. I downloaded that and the used your pacthed Odin3 v3.13.3b to flash it. I let it run the initial set up and let it activate with T-Mobile and then reboot. I went through the basic setup, checked that I was indeed connected to T-Mobile, and then went back into the bootloader screen. I downloaded the old T-Mobile firmware from SamMobile (TGM) and flashed it along the TMB userdata. Sure enough, it booted to the T-Mobile splash screen and the T-Mobile prompts for their apps were there. I sued the TGM firmware to check if the OTA would officially work, and once I clicked to check for software update sure enough it said there was one officially through T-Mobile. I did the update, factory reset the phone, and then used SmartSwitch to bring all my call logs, text, wallpaper, apps, etc... back. Thank you guys so much for the help. Who knew that it would make such a difference that initially I just flashed the T-Mobile firmware before letting the initial unlocked software provision my T-Mobile sim. I guess I was just too excited that first day, lol. It's all good now. Thank you guys so so much.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] JON@BUILDAWORKS:
att firmware seems to be off. it doesnt match the firmware and seems to be the original file. i think.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] NoteGarner2020:
Can I just flash the ATT firmware from POST #2 ? I want OTA and Samsung Pay to work with ATT features. I am ok with extra apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
Yes its U1, says right there in firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] unitz0mbie:
Id like to know this as well, and we should still be able to get ota's right?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Geekser:
In the past, there were several differances in the file name used for updated firmware (U versus U1) but it seems like with the Note's firmware, those differences are less noticable. Of course we have N965U1 compared to N965U - but if you go back and look at the firmware for the S20 Ultra, there were several other significant differences in the names used for the firmware - while with the Note firmware, they are almost identical, except for the U and U1 -

Am I completely wrong about this and more importantly, is there any real significance to this ? Probably doesn't mean anything, but I thought I would ask what your thoughts are about this ---- (or am I just crazy to ask ?) :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dantonuci:
Will there be a way to flash unlocked international firmware on the AT&T model?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
No
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] naim1234:
Can someone answer this? I wanna know as well thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] butchieboy:
What carrier do you have? If you have At&t of course you can flash it. It is At&t unlocked firmware. Is your device U1 or U? The U firmwares are the same. When flashed they will provision to your sim. Usually unlocked firmware you do not have wifi calling and have to flash U csc to get wifi calling. But when you do that you lose software update toggle in settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] gotojanoo:
Wondering whats the difference between home csc and only csc?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] todd3835:
Home doesn't wipe. Regular forces a wipe.

---------- Post added at 07:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:59 PM ----------

You can flash any firmware to any device of the same model. Even swapping between U and U1 in either direction.

Samsung pay will work regardless.

OTA will work as long as you flash all of the U, and flash to a version released by ATT. If you flash a version they skip, it'll break your OTA until you flash something att has released.

As for features its hit or miss. My Note 10 U1 plus couldn't get VOLTE or Wifi calling, even on U. They need to white list the imei which they don't typically do. Very much a YMMV. A little late now but if you're planning on using att your better off buying an ATT U device than unlocked. I switched to t-mobile for that reason
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Redbyte1:
Just got Android 11/ One UI 3.0 on US VZW N986USQU1CTL4
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] jsminnis:
Nevermind, I j

Nevermind, I just got the Ota from verizon.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Flame Red:
Regarding the new Andriod 11 for ATT just posted:

N986USQU1CTL2 ATT/TMB/SPR Android 11. Thanks @dottat for the link​

My wife has a 986U1 on ATT. I got her running on the Beta currently and would like to load the offical version. I just want to make sure I am following the correct procedure. Should I flash the above, using BL, AP, CP, CSC (Not HOME CSC) and NOT Userdata?

Will it come up like a real ATT phone and ehanced calling features like Volte, Video Calling, Wifi calling and HD Audio will work. Currently those dd not since I have the U1 Beta running.

Will doing the above factory reset the phone?

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Yes, this will give you all the AT&T features. I would also flash the USERDATA as well. Yes it will wipe the device, and IMO you want it to coming from a beta
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] Flame Red:
Thank you. After flashing it that way, will she start receiving ATT OTA updates? The phone is not rooted, but started life as a U1.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
Yes she should get AT&T OTA as long as she has a valid, working AT&T sim card installed in the device
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] adj998:
Still waiting for the update. I'm with Spectrum but I figured they'd follow Verizon's release schedule
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] kangi26:
I just looked to see if it was available for download for CCT/CHA, nothing yet
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] bassman418:
Just got it like an hour ago on Verizon. I normally use Nova launcher with hidden gestures. My gestures are all jacked up now. Even with setting Stock IU launcher as default launcher. Any recommendations?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] dottat:
Gestures were effed on the beta as well. The made the area of sensitivity sized for little kids now. They also didn't listen.

Someone said turning on gesture tips/suggestions helped but then you have the framed guide.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] gramsey1911:
Just got an update from big red.... glad I didn't flash the ATT CTL2 build...lol.

All the gestures are working for me.

Spoiler content hidden.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Guides, News, & Discu] bassman418:
I also have been using Google messages because of the chat features and large file sharing. I decide to try checking out Samsungs stock messaging app being it supposed to have RCS enabled with this update, but get this message. Anyone else on Verizon (or other carrier) getting that message?