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[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Benjamin_L:
I don't know what you are doing on yours but my 2XL certainly takes longer for night sight pictures
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
My Pixel 2 XL does both night sight and just regular HDR pictures faster than what the video of the Pixel 5 shows. It's a very noticeable difference.

It makes sense considering the Snapdragon 765 is only slightly better than the Snapdragon 835 in some ways and actually worse in some ways and the Pixel 5 doesn't have the Pixel Visual Core or Pixel Neural Core like previous Pixels had that helped image processing.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Benjamin_L:
But the 765G has AI included so you can't say the PNC make the 2XL faster, as the same calculations can now be performed in the cpu at roughly the same speed or maybe faster. Also single and multicore performance is higher so I would doubt it's slower than the 2XL. It also depends a lot on the lighting conditions and if they are not good my 2XL is certainly slower than in the video.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
That video showed several pictures being taken not just night sight. When he went to view the picture you can see the progress on processing the picture. My Pixel 2 XL does that noticably faster. A lot of it happens in the background so not a huge deal but the difference certainly is noticable.

I'm not sure what you are talking about but the Snapdragon 765G does not have the Pixel Visual Core or Pixel Neural Core type of processing built in. That was very specific Google hardware designed to be optimized for the very specific purpose of computational photography. The Pixel 5 is certainly at a disadvantage there. Also, benchmarks don't mean much for real world usage. If you really want to get a good idea of what the Pixel 5 performance will be watch some reviews of the OnePlus Nord which has the same processor and is almost stock Android. That doesn't necessarily mean the Pixel 5 will be as slow as the OnePlus Nord due to software differences but it certainly will be close.

My Pixel 2 XL battery life is getting pretty bad and it will be losing updates after December so it's time to get something new. I didn't want to lose that pure Google software experience so I decided to give the Pixel 5 a shot but if the performance is as poor as the One Plus Nord I'll be returning it. The slower photo processing is something I can live with.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Benjamin_L:
The PNC is just a co-processor for machine learning/AI stuff. The 765G has similar AI TOPS as the pvc/pnc so a dedicated co-processor is not needed anymore. I don't know why people are going crazy about redundant hardware:

https://m.gsmarena.com/the_new_pixe...nt_mean_they_lack_the_features-news-45589.php
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
The PVC and PNC were very specialized and optimized for a specific purpose. The co-processor of the 765G is more genetic. I guess that's better than nothing but it's not going to give you the same benefits as the specialized cores. If the genetic co-processor was good enough then the co-processor in the SD 855 in the Pixel 4, which is better than the co-processor in the SD 765, would have made the Pixel Neural Core in the Pixel 4 totally unnecessary.

There have already been reviews showing the camera app and the dual manual exposure controls that were in the Pixel 4 are missing which is likely due to not having the PNC.

It's unclear by the videos that have come out of the Pixel 5 has live HDR view but considering the fact that the Pixel 3 had a SD 845 (which is pretty comparable to the 765G) and the PVC but not the PNC and couldn't handle live HDR view and dual exposure controls I think it's probably likely that the Pixel 5 doesn't have either feature.

To summarize, SD 845 (which is better than the 765G) + PVC = Can't support HDR live view or dual exposure controls. That means 765G = No HDR live view or dual exposure controls.

So obviously the PNC is a big loss.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Benjamin_L:
What are you even talking about. Even the 4a has dual exposure and live hdr making all your points void. The PNC was used to support face unlock in the 4 as it was most likely very demanding to be quick. There are years of development between the 835 and the 765G. You just can't say as single or multi core performance is comparable they have the same features. Maybe do some research first
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I didn't compare to the 835 I compared to the 845. The 765G falls somewhere between the 835 and 845 in performance and capabilities. The Pixel 3, with the 845 with the PVC couldn't handle live HDR or the dual exposure controls. That's why the features weren't on the Pixel 3. That was in a statement from Google.

Snapdragon 845 + Pixel Visual Core > Snapdragon 765G. So to say that the Pixel 5, which has worse processors than the Pixel 3 can do things that the Pixel 3 can't do is just a lack of common sense.

If the Pixel 5 does have those features with a worse chip than the 845 and no PNC then why didn't the Pixel 3 have those features? Did Google lie?

Also, if the dual exposure controls are available on the Pixel 5 then why are the sliders used to control that feature missing from the camera app?

Here is a picture of the camera app of the Pixel 4 and Pixel 5. Notice that the Pixel 4 has the exposure controls while the Pixel 5 does not.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] pemz82:
You cant judge the camera on the Pixel 5 initial hands on. It is clearly not final software. reviewers have mentioned not all features are present. Hence the embargo from Google. They do not want reviews based on incomplete software.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Benjamin_L:
You can't seriously believe the 5 will not get a feature the 4a has. It's even mentioned on the compare pixel devices website.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I don't think the embargo is because of unfinished software but let's say that's true. Do you you really think software that close to final would be that much slower than any update that might be available the first time you turn it on? The image processing in those hands on videos is so much slower than what I'm getting on my Pixel 2 XL that it's clearly obvious. Any software improvements would have to speed up image processing by close to double for the Pixel 5 to process images faster than my Pixel 2 XL does not.

So I guess they must have moved the exposure controls somewhere else? As you can see in the screen shots I posted the Pixel 4 XL has the exposure sliders but in the other picture those sliders are clearly not there.

Also, as I already mentioned it would mean that Google wasn't being honest when it gave the reason why those features weren't added to the Pixel 3.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] pemz82:
I guess we'll find out soon enough. It's delivery day for many UK buyers
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] pemz82:
Just received the phone - I can confirm exposure control is present out of the box. There is an update to the camera app pending also.

Speed of processing is very similar to my Pixel 2 XL.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Was there an update as soon as you set it up? Are the exposure controls moved somewhere else compared to the Pixel 4? Did you have to enable them in settings? I didn't see that option in videos of the camera settings but the videos didn't show the advanced settings. Maybe they just have to be enabled.

I'm just trying to figure out why all the videos I've seen of the Pixel 4/Pixel 4 XL show the sliders but all the videos of the Pixel 5 have the sliders missing.

So I guess Google was lying about why the Pixel 3 didn't get live HDR view and dual exposure controls. That's interesting.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] pemz82:
The exposure controls are there without having to turn them on. The sliders appear when you tap on the screen to set your focus. Not sure if that is different to 4/XL.

The camera app update is available as soon as you set up the phone. This made some tweaks to the UI and I think the different stabilisation modes including cinematic pan.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
Bit of a delay when processing photos, I'd say its pretty much exactly the same speed as my Pixel 3 XL.

Opening the edit menu on the Pixel 5 seems to take a little longer though, only on portrait shots, maybe it is the new light editing thing?

Side note - the portrait light adjuster works really well
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
That update must have added the exposure sliders. They weren't there in hands on videos for a week or two ago even when the users tapped the screen. Kind of strange that a software feature that has been around for a year had to be added in as an update instead of included from the factory.

I'm also really curious what the real reason was for not updating the Pixel 3 (and possibly even the Pixel 2) to have those features. It wasn't the issue Google originally gave. I'm guessing they just wanted to make those features Pixel 4 exclusives but I don't understand why they wouldn't just say that. :rolleyes: :confused:
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] pemz82:
No, the exposure sliders were present 100% out of the box. I specifically checked it immediately after the device was on and had been through initial set up. Unless there was a hidden update pushed during setup.

The camera app update added the new features and some ui tweaks.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
So the previous questions still remain. Why were the sliders missing in early hands on videos even when tapping on the screen and what was the real reason Google didn't add the dual exposure and HDR live view to the Pixel 3. Those questions have me really curious.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Surendra Ravindra Sonawan:
If I click a shot in night sight its taken more time then normal time after update
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Dc52ltr:
Portrait light isn't on my UK Pixel 5 yet...
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] MrBelter:
Portrait light is in Google Photos, not on the phone itself.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Dc52ltr:
Sorry, that's what I meant, I haven't had the Google photos update containing portrait light. Apologies for being a numpty.?
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] MrBelter:
Weird it was there for me right away, i have had 2 Google Photos updates since the 15th as well. You're probably doing this anyway but if not just scroll across to adjust and it is sat in between colour pop and brightness.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Dc52ltr:
Got it now, updated this morning.. Thanks for your help??
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Michael1200:
Does anyone have the bug that when shooting two pics and opening them in from the camera app, only the last picture can be deleted? When clicking the paperbin icon on the next pic, it doesn't do anything.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Google Pixel 5's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Google Pixel 5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] DrOtt:
Battery life/efficiency is already quite good, so charging speed might not be a concern for most people.

Still, it would be nice if Google offered higher charging speeds, and added battery protection features to the phone.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] bigmike35:
Anyone have projected full time to charge from 0-100% or what 50-100% would look like? I think around 50%, shows 1hr and 40mins I believe.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jdn~:
Yeah about an hour from 50%-100%

But most of my usb c cables aren't working (properly).

When connected some say charging slowly and takes a full day and some don't even work while I could use those to charge very fast with other phones.

Anyone have these problems also?
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] sibseb:
Mine is lighting quick. I can go from 15% to 100% in just over an hour with my included charger
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
It charges a little bit faster than my Pixel 2 XL did with a 16% bigger battery so pretty good.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Jimster66:
59% to full projected at 4hr on my standard Seneo wireless charging stand

55 minutes plugged into the Pixel USB charger
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] baioss:
I think the charging speed it's quicker than my Pixel 4 XL. My Pixel 5 charges at about 1 hour and 15 minutes from 20% to 100%. Pixel 4 XL needs about 1 hour and 40 minutes with smaller battery capacity. I suppose Pixel 5 charging speeds is about 20 to 22Watts.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] hanni2301:
It's 18 W, for sure.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] MrBelter:
I'm using an Anker Nano III charger and an Anker braided type c to type c and Ampere shows it charging at 3.8A when it is rapid charging so that's 19W.

Personally i wish Google would add a 1A (or less) overnight charging option, i would find that much more useful than the rapid charge to be honest.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jdn~:
For overnight charging you could use the adaptive charging option?
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] MrBelter:
No point, it still rapid charges up to 80% still and just slows the last 20% down which to be honest it what it does anyway albeit the last 20% is a little faster and you don't need to have an alarm set. The adaptive charging option seems like the most pointless method of charging ever implemented to be honest.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jdn~:
Well that sucks XD I never charge overnight so I didn't check if it worked or not... I assumed it would, but yeah my bad...
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] MrBelter:
To be honest the battery life is that good on the Pixel 5 it is the first phone in 10 years that i have not had to charge overnight, i generally top it up while i am settling down and unplug it before i nod off to sleep and it is always still at 100% or 99% the next morning. There is nearly always well over 50% left before i do the same again the following evening.

I just think for a lot of people a setting for a slow trickle charge would be just as beneficial as the default rapid charging.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jdn~:
First one in 10years? Then you had some phones with bad battery life haha.. The pixel 5 battery is alright. i've had better :)
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] figo_rulz11:
I agree with some above, the pixel 5 lasts me all day so I don't even use the supplied fast charger. I actually use a apple USB plug and it charges very slowly over night for me with adaptive charge so helps to preserve battery life even more. Still amazed how incredible the battery life is on the Pixel 5.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] MrBelter:
Yup, you seem to forget some early Android phones had batteies as small as 1000mAh and if you enabled Wi-Fi or god forbid mobile data the battery was flat in 10 minutes, not a cat in hells chance of reaching 12 hours let alone a day. Moving forwards my previous 3 phones the OnePlus 7t, Nokia 8.1 and Nokia 8 could not come anywhere near the Pixel 5 for battery longevity unless you made compromises to your usage. Last week i rattled though 30GB of data doing 5G speed tests on the Pixel 5 and i still had 60 odd % left at the end of the day.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 5 before depleting the battery.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
Early impressions. Pretty good. Illmlet google do its AI thing to stretch it further though.

17 hours since charge.

4 hours screen on time

55% battery remaining
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Surendra Ravindra Sonawan:
When battery comes to 1% ???

How much screen on Time you got
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
Not sure yet.

5hour 45min screen on time so far.

33% battery left
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
SoT 8hr 10mins and 2% remaining
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Any more details?

Total time off the charger?

Brightness?

Apps used?

Wifi or mobile data? If mobile was it on 5G?

Media use like streaming video or music?

Using Bluetooth?

Any games?

GPS?

90hz on or off? If 90hz was on was it forced in developer options?

Dark mode on?

8 hours SOT could be really good or really bad.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
Added above
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Thanks for all the details. For one question I might not have been clear. I didn't mean if you had developer options at all. I meant if you had the "force 90hz" enabled and if you had the smooth display option enabled in display options.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
Force 90hz is off in dev options

Smooth display (90hz) is on in display settings
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] rav101:
I got the phone a little prior to noon yesterday and spent my free time yesterday getting it set up and settled in, logged into all apps etc.

I took the phone off charge at 100% last night at around 9:45pm. Overnight idle over 11 hours until this morning was 3% with 2 minutes screen on in that time. I'm now 14 hours off charge with 81% battery remaining and 2 hours 6 minutes SOT.

Usage:

Indoor on 4g (poor reception) and wifi (moderate to good reception)

Bluetooth for about 20 minutes this morning

Brightness low

Apps: Telegram, Whatsapp, Slack and a little YouTube Music and Spotify for the music

Ive also been doing some app opening time testing (just visual beteen Pixel 5 and OP7Pro)

Overall this is pretty light usage and almost considered a best case scenario but the battery life seems like it is going to be really good if this holds up over a full drain.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Bigmille:
1st full day on mobile 4G. The phone passed 6 hours SOT of heavy use of YouTube, YouTube music videos and browsing around 50% brightness with 15% battery left, so could have pushed close to 7 hours SOT!

Steam media thought Bluetooth, and smooth display is set to on. No dark mode.

My Pixel 4 will not last more than 4 hours, and my Note 10 will be dead around 5:30 hours mark with same usage.

So very impressed with Pixel 5 battery life.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
Thanks. It's good to hear some real world battery life. Reviews are just rushing over it. Results will vary but based on what you are getting and your usage I'm optimistic that my battery life will be pretty good. I wish I didn't have to wait until the end of the month.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Mdizzle1:
Quite a heavy day for me, note I had the pixel buds hooked up for a long time too
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] sbtm1337:
quick observations now after the first night charging it full.

I went grocery shopping this morning and was away for about 70 minutes. I used Waze navigation for approx 30 minutes in total. When I got home the battery was on 93%.

I recharged it to 100%

I'm using it now for 20 minutes (WiFi, Auto screen brightness). Messaging in Telegram and WhatsApp, reading some news in the Google Feed etc. And I'm still at 100%

Actually while writing this it's 25 minutes screen-on-time and still at 100%.

Edit: now trying to drain the battery with watching Netflix... will get back soon.

Could this be a bug?? My Pixel 3 usually would be already down to 95% now
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
It certainly could be a bug. I had a similar issue when I first got my Pixel 2 XL. I remember fully charging it right before I went to bed. With 8 hours of being idle over night and like 30+ minutes use in the morning it was still at 100%. I rebooted the phone and it was like 96%. I think it was fixed in the first update I got after getting the phone.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] sbtm1337:
Actually I'm at 8h44m SOT and have 14% battery left now. I watched a movie streaming from my NAS, streamed music with bluetooth, listened to music on the phone, made a video call, took some photos and videos, played some games, watched Netflix etc...

btw: the battery went down to 99% after 35 minutes.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] figo_rulz11:
Second day of me using my pixel 5. 90hz adaptive on, adaptive brightness on, 4g for 30 minutes and 3 hours or so with location on. And 25minutes Bluetooth on.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] jimv1983:
It could still be a bug (or maybe on purpose) that causes the battery percentage indicator to be inaccurate at higher charges. Losing 1% in 35 minutes of use should mean that continuing to use the phone in the same way should last 3500 minutes which is obviously not true since that is 58 hours. Any kind of sustained use wouldn't even get you a quarter of that.

Based on the actual use you have over almost a full charge it does seem to be very good battery life.

Once I get mine (not shipping until October 30th in the USA) my first test will be to do a test with light tasks(browsing, Facebook, texting, etc) with dark mode off and 90hz mode off so I can compare to a screenshot I have from when I first got my Pixel 2 XL.

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90hz on or off? If on forced or dynamic?

Any time spent on mobile data? If yes was it 5G?

What brightness level?
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] figo_rulz11:
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90hz on or off? If on forced or dynamic?

Any time spent on mobile data? If yes was it 5G?

What brightness level?[/QUOTE]

90HZ on with dynamic, spent around 30 minutes on 4G and 3 hours on location on as I don't have 5G in my area yet. Brightness level is just on adaptive brightness.
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] evanw68:
Amazing battery life from full charge to 1 percent

Charged this phone fully after getting it initially, then used it till 1 percent, including not charging it overnight at around 80 percent ( I think). I listened to a fair bit of YouTube, Spotify, with bluetooth headphones, and used web browsing and gaming quite a bit (mostly light gaming, idle games). Very impressed
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] figo_rulz11:
3rd day using pixel 5, 90hz on, Bluetooth headphones on for 4 hours ish, 4g and NFC on for 1.5-2 hours rest wifi and still over 40% battery and 7 hours SoT. Mind blowing!
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] Michael1200:
Jesus Christ :eek:
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] sidhaarthm:
8.5hrs SOT with my first Test ?

This was my first go at real life battery testing on the Pixel 5.

- Tested at Home with Wi-Fi and decent 4G signal.

- Brightness on Auto

- Forced 90Hz switched on from Developers Menu

- Bone stock Android 11 Oct Update

- No Battery Saver used towards the end.

- Almost half the test was with Bluetooth switched on, connected to my earphones and fitness tracker.

- All usual battery hog apps installed, including FB, WhatsApp, Telegram, Instagram and many others. All running normally in the background with push notifications.

I have only owner the device for 4 days. Coming from a Pixel 4 XL, suffice to say I'm fairly impressed. The little gap/spike you see is when I connected my phone to my laptop to root the device and install a few Magisk modules.

The Pixel 5 really is a 2 day device for me personally. I was deliberately watching YouTube and Netflix to get some screen time. My usual day to day usage is mostly email, Chrome, IM, Reddit and some Twitter. I am extremely pleased and glad I made the switch. In the UK I sold my Pixel 4 XL 128GB for £435 and I'm hoping to sell the Bose QC 35 II (free as part of Google's Promotion) for at least £200. So essentially this upgrade cost me nought ?
[Google Pixel 5 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Can't wait for mine to get here. Coming from p4