yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Well, I am not trying to be "lazy" but what i am saying is it'bbe be great if some basic functions which are used by majority users can be also included. Anyway, I do really hope to see your complete version soon.

By the way, I've tried 2.5v, and try to change the analog clock into digital one, but after I install the digital clock cab, it keeps debouncing between "tap here to launch Touchflo" and "Launching Touchflo". So I cannot open the M2D anymore. Do you know how to chnage it into the digital clock correctly ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
which are the basic functions not in my ROM that u think majority of the users want? pls be specific.

i think the best place to ask about 2nd question is M2D's thread. i've not tried to change the clock as yet, so can't help in this case.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
What i am thinking is at least the Album should be included.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
first, if i include htc album, then i'll have to include htc gestures and full screen player also in order to make the album fully functional. second, i dont think htc album is used by everyone. my rom has been downloaded 500+ times and the htc album cab only 100 times or so which clearly shows the majority doesn't want htc album.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Well, believe me that I like your ROM and I am not trying to argue with you. I also d/l 2.5v and read the thread carefully for what's inside, and notice I may need to d/l other cab to make album working, so I d/l that file. But I guess maybe some of them who d/l 2.5v don't expect that album is excluded because so far as I try for all the other M2D ROMs that I can find, ALL include album. I mean users may find it missing afterwards, besides, I guess ELF(IN) equip with camera, so album must be a general feature. Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
i know what u are trying to say but if the users don't read what's included and excluded from the ROM, there is nothing i can do about it.

it is the sole duty of the user to read before using the ROM :D

thanks for ur thoughts/concerns though. i might reconsider this after blasev is back.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
No problem, I just want to provide some maybe useful suggestion for you to make the ROM even better because I do like it for fast and compact.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] faisals:
Hi, welcome back.

I have been studying all the threads and have tried few roms. Finally only two roms are at the top. One is yours and the other one is onyx v2.2. Although the later one is newer rom but still it is mostly used.

My concern is that your previous roms without opal porting showed a persistent free program memory of about 15 MB without any leaks. Altough it had only the basic required components but there was not memory leak. In your current rom, there appears to be change of free ram after using every program. Usualy it is staying at about 9 MB free. It start with 20 MB free on soft reset. Is this an opal issue.

The onyx 2.2 rom shows 15 mb free on soft reset and 5 - 8 MB free program memory after using some programs. Similar memory leaks are seen in this rom also. But it has a lot of programs pre-installed.

ANy suggestion.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah, mainly becauase of opal apps like opal's phone canvas and m2d. and this is the exact reason why i didn't enable all the tabs in m2d keeping in mind Elf users.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ckpv5:
Hi Htctouchp

I seldom post in your thread. I am totally agree when you mentioned ".. Elf users with the possibility of customizing it themselves."

Anyone who require certain programs to be in or out of the provided ROM should edit the ROM to their liking. Myself, using the HTC Image Editor, managed to trim your TESS 2.5 to a CE ROM, put out the Audio Manager, put in the HTC Album and so on to my liking. The result is an ELF with M2D which is almost perfect for me.

Thanks for your hard work and nice ROM.

Rgds
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah thats a good idea. i hope others can follow the same method. this 'htc image editor' is a very usefull tool but unfortunately not many try it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] wongh_hk:
Bluetooth Headset

I had recently experience some problem with my Bluetooth headset with TESS v2.5, my bluetooth cannot receive the call or end the call from my headset button. However, after I pickup the call with the phone and press the headset switch I can transfer the call to headset. This headset had been used with my Elf for quite some time (but using different rom), any idea how I can resolve the problems!!

:confused::(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
I use that tool as well, but after you install the HTC album, can the video play normally ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
CE here we come

damn.i never thought of that before...thanks for the tip:D always had the tool just never used it:o

just to clarify....i can use the tool to add and remove files from the ROM, right?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
well yeah, thats the purpose of this tool ;). however, i've never tested this tool myself and i assume u need to edit/delete the necessary registry values after flashing the ROM.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
interesting...i would assume that editing the reg usng this tool is not possible...

so lets go reg hunting...looking for all manilla reg keys - soz but for me manila does not meet my current needs and usage patterns..

btw.. isnt blasev due back for action today? :) that first post is bugging me :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Well, not exactly so easily that you can really add/ remove any of the file you want because some files may be related and if you are not aware the relation exactly, you may cause problems.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah he was supposed to be back within a week, but still no news about him. even i'm annoyed to see the outdated first post :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ckpv5:
Yes, so far there is no problem with playing video.

Rgds
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yeah obviously it is for those who know exactly what they are doing.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Good to hear that. By the way, do you change the analog clock into digital one ?

edit 1 : how to add the "HTC album.cab" into the ROM by using the Image editor ? It's not .exe format. Pleaseadvice. thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Hey Aman. If you need, I'll give you the first post control so you can edit it your way. Only thing required would be a nice blank post from you somewhere in your thread ;) Once Blasev is back the control can be shifted again. Let me know if you need it
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ckpv5:
There should not be a problem to change to digital clock only (see attached screenshot), but I prefer my current one as previously shown in post #1803

Rgds
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
we have already waited for a week, so i guess there is nothing wrong if we wait for another day or two.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
well guys and gals, I'M BACK, yeah i already told you bro, I'm back on 6 october hehehe. just got back at home 5 minutes ago, its been a long but joyful journey :D

I'll replace the 1st post immediately after few house cleanup ok ;)

and aman bro, thx for your patience :D :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
FINALLY :D !!!

how u doing bro? i hope u had a wonderful time with ur trip :). we'll discuss about it later on, first u need to finish ur pending jobs ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
hahaha, ok bro I'll finish it, ups i already finish it, hope u guys enjoy it :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
well speak of the devil:p

hope you had a god trip bud....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
well thx guys, for being the devil advocate :D

and just and old announcement, check post three for anyone wanna try full manila tab ;)

and that's will be our new habit, checking faqs at post three ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] little pink:
Welcome back blasev !

Here is my Elfin TESS 2.5 (12M PP) after hardreset

Total: 178.66 Mb...............107.95

In use: 4.17.....................28.68

Free: 174.48...................79.27
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
hmm thx again bro :D

and may i use picture attached on post 1??

wait a minute.. i thought it was gif files....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] little pink:
Yeah, it is a gif file. You can use whereever you like :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anandoc:
Hey htctouchp,

I flashed both my HTC Touch phones to your ROM in the past 2 weeks and I must congratulate you over this awesome work. So far everything is just perfect and just the way I like it. I have one question for you though. In my previous stock ROM (Rogers ROM), the hardware keys (send, end and dpad keys) would not wake up the device from standby. However, in your ROM, these keys wake up the the phone. This is not ideal for me since my phone stays in my jeans pocket and occasionally these keys might get pressed.

Is there any way I can disable these keys from waking up the device? Any tips would be highly appreciated!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
setting -> system -> key locked -> lock all button exce...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anandoc:
Thanks! You are a genius!! I cant imagine I missed that setting :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
thx alot bro, really appreciated :D

@ every one : if u're elf user like me, try 4MB PP with TESS 2.5 it gives 23MB program memory free after all my installation ;) and the speed is still fast lightning :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kkkng:
I tried 4MB PP but do you find that it sometimes (maybe once every few days) that after using a memory intensive application (opera mini or IE), Touch FLO will terminate itself and will require you to restart? i think it happens only once with 8MB PP so far.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
agreed with blasev..4mb pagepool is the best on any rom ....tried 6mb, 8mb even 0mb...

my memory levels off at 18-21mb after a few hours and stays that way even after using ie,album,java ..

a thought for saving memory...I noticed that the phone canvas leaves some residual windows open in memory which can be closed without any problem..I wanna find out what other windows can be cleared from memory ...to view windows use task manager and check the windows tab

elias has an app that can do this but it just didn't do the job well
[Touch GSM ROM Development] captkkk:
I stayed with 1.6 and install the M2D seperately and it is all good.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] lomo2002:
youtube

hi

Welcome back HTCTOUCHP and blasev!!! We were missing u guys!!! I love this v2.5, it is very fast on my Elf, eventhough i did not change the pagepool to 4 Mb.

By the way, did anyone succeed to get Youtube to work in this rom? I have tried everthing(opera,flash,HTC youtube...), but it is not working. It would be fantastic, if youtube work in this rom, because nowdays u have internet everywhere and while u r waiting for something u can go to youtube and watch some funny stuffs.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
hmmmmm, as far as i know there are other alternatives for watching youtube videos apart from htc youtube. have u tried others?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] lomo2002:
thanks for your quick answer, i have tried Coreplayer, which works only 1/4 of times and i have also tried Youtube palyer 1.7 or something but it works only half of times and shows the videos in 1/3 of the screen. The strange thing is that i have tried Shafez rom, the youtube works without any problem in his rom. Is there any possiblity to get Opal's opera and HTC youtube cabs from his rom?

By the way, HTC audio manager and windows media player stops, when u press the Power button? how can i disable it?

Once again Shukria and Aadab for your works!!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
i've made a cab for youtube from opal itself, just tested it and it seems to be working alright. i'll post it here for u to test. let me know if it works. if it doesn't i'll test it again. as for other issue, music stopping in standby is a known issue with opal ported apps and i dont thinik there is a solution for this as yet. dsixda might have a solution though :rolleyes:

and sorry, i don't know what i've to say in return for "Aadab" :o

EDIT: removed the non-working opal youtube.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] lomo2002:
Thanks again, It woud be nice, if you could mention which of the cabs (HTCyoutube?, Opera?) should I install first, i do not know, whether it is important or not.

hmmm, now i am a little confused, because i think Aadab is used in Urdu not hindi. But i am sure, you know what i mean by "Aadab".:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
u dont need opera or flash lite etc, just use this cab. i've just tested it and i'm able to play couple of youtube videos ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] lomo2002:
i installed the cab on the memory and did a soft-reset. When i open the HTCyoutube, i can see the the video icons, but i when i press on one of the videos, it starts displaying "Connecting", then suddenly a dialogue-box appears and says "Error, Cannot play the video".

I think, it might be my connection, because now i use Edge-connection, but when i get home, i will try to use it on my wireless connection.

thanks again!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] xdd:
Sliding animation when just click

Great ROM. Thanks. :)

What happened to the sliding animation when the tab is directly clicked ? :confused:

Was it purposely removed ? Any way to get it back ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] heew00t:
Amazing ROM, but I have a couple of issues that are affecting two out of two Elfins I flashed this onto.

1. The time stamps on the texts that I RECIEVE are 4 hours behind. However, I have set my SMS to display in a threaded manner, and they are properly listed in order. (Although the timestamp is 4 hours behind the sent text) Time & Clock settings are set properly.

2. When I recieve a new text and press Reply (or click on a threaded message with an unread message in the inbox), the message gets highlighted in blue and the keyboard fails to pop up (but does show up for a second). When I try to load up the keyboard (Default keyboard or TouchPal), it pops up for a split second and then disappears, and the message gets highlighted again. This forces me to reload the message by exiting and reloading, from then the keyboard starts to work again because the message is not marked as unread.

Thanks :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
Nice. would you please help to provide me a link for that digital clock ? Thanks. By the way, please advice how to add the Album.cab by using HTCRIE tool. Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kkkng:
Goto HKLM\Software\OEM\SMS and change RecvTimeStamp to 1

(if u don't see the sms registry key, just create one)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ckpv5:
That digital clock is found at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425974 but I don't remember at which post#. It is easier to click to show all the attachments and search for pack_horloges_lepsyfou.

I am not sure if we can discuss how to use the HTC ROM Image Tool in this thread. Just a general idea, a cab cannot be add in to ROM, must install the cab after flashing. I use the tool to delete unneeded files, replace files such as the big weather graphics to BeyondInvisible's weather graphics and the small weather graphics with others (see attached).

Some files like S2P, S2V and S2U2, you can add in the ROM using this tool (must not a cab file). Sometime you can put in the OEM pack and import the registry after flashing to make it work, there are many possibilities on how to use the tool and should be discuss in the Tool's thread.

By the way, how do you edit the HTCHomeSetting.XML ? What program that you use to edit? Notice that you are facing problem to use the digital clock because of the XML.

Rgds
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
agreed

btw our very own mod made this, which you proabably came across, but to answer your question i think any text editor will work but just keep an eye out for issues when saving the file in unicode or ansi....this may cause issues but i cant confirm it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] jacobstim78:
How do jou set it to threaded sms?

THank's for the effort.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
has someone tested this cab? i've tested it myself and i can play the videos using GPRS/Edge/Wi-fi. i need some feedback guys.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] wongh_hk:
Can it play through activesync connection? I tried it through activesync connection and it say "Error Can play video", and WIFI as well. :p
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
hmmm...

and sms is working great, the glitch mentioned is a fact within build 207XX

sometimes me must open keyboard using 2 taps, first we tap the keyboard then we tap the blank space where we write the sms.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ksk622:
HI.... is there any way to get a wince.nls which support china/taiwan regional setting? ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
ok i've found the problem in previous cab. pls try this one, it SHOULD work ;)

PS: pls give me feedback after testing asap.

EDIT: after confirmation of working cab, updated post #4 with youtube's download link in Addons section.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] clany:
If you are using CHS,you can install ricky 6M simsun font,that will fix the problem.

http://www.ricky119.com/2008/09/05/windows-mobile雅黑中文支持（3m6m10m14m）

:D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ksk622:
tested... working perfectly... so far is the best chinese character solution :D

Highly recommend !!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
good to hear that :D

btw, pls someone give me feedback about new htc youtube cab.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ksk622:
arrr... i just done a quick test.... this youtube application is working properly in both activesync and wifi :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
great :D, thanks brother. now i can list this one in my other cabs list :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] lomo2002:
Hi HTCTOUCHP,

Aadab!!!!!! This rocks!!!!

It now works without any problem on activesyc, EDGE and wireless. I have tested myself on those connections. I was waiting desperately to get youtube to work on my Elf. Now there is no need that i buy the Diamond.:rolleyes:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
:D glad to hear that buddy, although i tested it over wifi only :p

i've updated the post 4 with list of addons and included youtube over there.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sebastianmc:
A mirro please (rapidshare if possible)

friends, please please give us a mirror, i cant download the addons

Addons/Cabs:

Download them here. The list of addons includes:

1. Opal's HTC album

2. Opal's HTC Gesture (for zooming in/out, rotating pics using finger in HTC album)

3. Opal's Fullscreen player (for playing videos from within HTC album)

4. Opal's Large title bar

5. Opal's TFSettings for accessing "enable large title bar" and "enable large start menu" from settings tab.

6. Opal's Youtube
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anandoc:
The application loads up fine and downloads the most popular videos. However, when I try to play any of them, I get a "cannot play this video" message. I tested this through WiFi.

EDIT: Ok, I installed it on my second Touch which has your ROM and it works just fine there. However, it still gives the above mentioned error message on my other Touch which runs the stock Rogers ROM.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ckpv5:
PERFECT

Wow..Wow... the youtube works on my ELF.

Thanks for your hard work... now my Elf is perfect!

Rgds
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
i can't say much about other ROMs buddy :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] heew00t:
Yes, this is exactly the problem. Anyone know how to solve it? or can someone resolve it asap? Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] wongh_hk:
I just installed the cab and it work well in both WIFI and Activesync connection, great work friend.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] murrun:
rom is good but i don't like extra loudspeaker sound. sound is distorting on highest volume.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] fairchild68:
one touch backlight changing etc

I love Tess 2.5 - Full stop!

Unfortunately with M2D launcher you can only access program shortcuts. What happened to “device lock”, changing backlight intensity on one touch, etc.

Any elegant ways to replace them?

Cheers, mark
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
so the point is that ...

you can always make it lower :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] martinjwainwright:
Software compatability with this rom

Hi

Firstly - i really like the look and feel of this ROM - it is a brilliant work.

I do have one issue though - I might be doing someting stupid (likely!) but i can't get Laridian bible (vs 4) software to launch with this ROM. It loads just fine - and when i press the icon nothing happens. With the task manager i can see something has happened but i know not what!

Does anyone know if there are other compatability problems?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] vasquez:
rom works great, any way to uninstall the manilla2d? don't like it so much...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blasev:
easy, use v2.4, its the same build but without M2d. ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] wongh_hk:
I don't know is this a feature or bug. Whenever I launch a programe from M2D, after a short period of time (about 10 sec) it will return to M2D Home Widget. I had to recall it from Task Manager.

Secondly, after using M2D a while and terminate a running program, system will prompt a message "Tap to Launch M2D" something like that and not automatically return to M2D, again is it normal. I had to restart my Touch, and it can launch M2D automatically after end another programs.

Cheeks ... :confused::o
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anandoc:
Is it possible that you have an Elf (with 64 MB RAM) and not an Elfin? If so, maybe the system is killing off the M2D because you launched another program and it was low on memory? Somebody else has a better idea?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
not quite the same but close enough....the phone canvas for me is the biggest selling point for 2.5.

anyways if you dont want to use manila..dont-just disable the plugin, thats what i do:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] feuvan:
I met the same contacts hangs problem as someone noticed in previous replies.

I have to do several hard resets to use the phone... a bit tough
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anandoc:
Can one of the experts here point me to the right direction where I can configure the Internet widget in M2D to launch Opera when I tap on "Launch Browser"? I played around with the HTCHomeSettings.xml and some registry entries but was not able to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
the internet tab looks for OperaL.exe when u click the launch browser. so make sure operaL.exe is there in windows folder after u have installed the cab file of opera. u don't need to edit the registry or xml for this.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] akkad:
manilla memory size

my device is elf and i just want to confirm, since 2.5 manilla my programs memory is jumping between 10mb - 16mb, where i used to have with v2.4 19mb - 21mb, it should be with this size(10-16mb) or something is wrong?? i know M2D is a big process but is this the expected memory for elf with v2.5?? by the way i didnt install the M2D add-ons, just flashed and install my programs i used to install on v2.4.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
well its normal for Elf. also, it is not just the M2D, but Opal's Phone canvas also which requires more RAM than any of the previous dialers.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] anandoc:
Thanks for your reply, htctouchp. I dont have OperaL in my \windows folder since I installed Opera to the storage card. I have operaL in my \Storage Card\Program Files\Opera9 folder. Is there any way the internet tab can be told to look elsewhere instead of the Windows folder? If not, can you suggest some other workaround? Thanks a lot for your help.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
i'm afraid that is not possible. try copying operaL.exe in windows folder or search the forums if there is a work around. i don't use opera myself, so i can't help more than this.

btw, i think it should be possible to launch opera as a separate item even from storage card, like Youtube.