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[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
No info yet for Note 20, but it will be available once Wonda will have the phone for sale.

However, it should be pretty similar to S20 Ultra that has the following specs:

TECHNOLOGY	GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE / 5G

2G BANDS	GSM: GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900

3G BANDS	WCDMA: B1(2100),B2(1900), B5(850),B8(900)

4G BANDS	4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700) 4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)

5G BANDS	5G Sub-6 FDD: N1(2100) / 5G Sub-6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)

So you should check with your mobile provider to see what bands they use and compare against these ones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gotojanoo:
Will this version has all necessary bands for 5G and 4G in USA?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
You will need to contact your mobile operator and ask them to provide their frequencies and compare them against the ones in the phone to make sure it will work.

I live in the UK so dont know much about US frequencies.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Hi there

Thanks for bring this up, I am looking for NON-North American version, do these Snapdragons have root options? in the past

Let me know where u getting it, need to buy it as well?

There is a store in Richmond, BC who sells international variants, I am gonna text him tomorrow to see what version he has

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https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/gnkm5/telus-canada/devices

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telus_Mobility

can u see the 5g one in that wiki, it has 2100 but n66?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Lets go!!! Good pricing also.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Haha, was about to write it but you were first! :)

Just pre-ordered my one, the 512Gb version. Can't wait to put my hands on this baby!

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As far as I am aware only Hong Kong versions have unlocked bootloader for Snapdragon. The US one doesn't.

Exynos, on the other hand, has fully unlocked bootloader so can be rooted.

On the other hand, do you really need rooting the phone? As far as I am aware there is currently no option to root without destroying Knox, but I might be wrong.

Here are the GSM specs from Wonda for Hong Kong version:

2G BANDS	GSM: GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900

3G BANDS	WCDMA: B1(2100),B2(1900), B5(850),B8(900)

4G BANDS	4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B12(700),B13(700), B18(800),B19(800),B20(800),B25(1900),B26(850),B28(700) 4G TDD-LTE: B34(2010),B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)

5G BANDS	5G Sub-6 FDD: N1(2100) / 5G Sub-6 TDD: N78(3500),N79(4500)

So it seems that your one is not in the list (n66) so it might not work....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Ya need rooted, Samsung pass wont work but android pay works if I am not mistaken
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Yes, only Samsung Pay and, possibly, VoLTE won't work, everything else should work.

I will hopefully receive my phone soon and test it properly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Well, well, well...You convinced me to switch from the Korean Version I was looking at to the HK/CN version. Gain the support for dual sim(even though I don't use it). Almost the same price of the Korean version I was buying, expect with WonderMobile import fees are included, which is a plus. Both HK and Korean seem to support the same bands that I use here. It'll take a little longer to ship to me out in Japan, yet I am excited as well.

What would be the reason VoLte wouldn't work? Requires a specific LTE band in the country?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
What the hell? Are you sure? How long ago should be delivered? Have some cases that driver already sign my package and then deliver it 1 hour later. Sorry to hear...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Man, this is ridiculous! It happened with me a few times before when Amazon packages disappeared but Amazon was kind enough to resend. Instead of moving their butt and buzzing to my property, some drivers just leave the packages outside, next to street! I contacted UPS and they said bla-bla-bla the package was delivered. I advised them its a crime and I am going to report this, they said they will contact the driver to find out who he handed the package to and will contact me within an hour. The hour already passed, but no one contacted (expected!) And it even says in the receipt email it was handed to me! I emailed Wonda too even though its not really their fault but I at the end of the day I did not receive my package. I will wait for another 1 hour and will go to police to report the lost. My building has CCTV so they need to check. Whoever took my package it seems they are enjoying my new phone right now!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
I suggest you also to give them IMEI number so they can trace it. IMEI you will find on email the wonda send you when was dispatched.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Thanks for suggesting the IMEI - didn't think about that!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
I think this is your best bet. I know apple is possible to flag the phone that its stolen so become practically useless i dont know how is working with samsung... No problem man hopping that everything turn in you favor.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
No I posted earlier I picked locally, the skin is from Dbrand
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
I hope you're able to get your phone... Really sorry that this happened to you....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Thanks everyone! I will let you know once receive any news.

You guys do enjoy your new toys ))
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Ive had UPS misplace a product for me once and I've also seen drivers put delivered even b4 delivering to meet their quota. I can imagine your state, confusion and frustration - be patient and they will call u but delayed for sure
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Reading on TrustPilot - more than 11000 1 star reviews for UPS. Such a wonderful company! I called them 20 times already and all they can say the depot is trying to contact the driver. So the depot couldn't reach the driver in 4 hours? Obviously, a lie. I can bet if the UPS management needed to contact the driver they could do that in 1 minute! Their rubbish website says drivers can leave packages wherever they want at their discretion. Why Wonda is using such a rubbish postal service instead of normal company that delivers and takes signature on delivery? They say on their website they use DHL not UPS and I paid for smooth delivery. I suspect if I open a claim through PayPal they will say the package was delivered to me and will refuse to issue a refund. Still waiting for Wonda and UPS to get back to me, no answer from both.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
It's 0200 here in Japan, so probably 0100 in Hong Kong for Wondamobile. I know your upset, yet not much fault on Wondamobile. The fault lies with the crappy delivery driver and the thiefs that live around you. Definitely look to have the IMEI reported and black listed to prevent use/sale. Double check with Wondamobile to see if their packages are insured, and get that CCTV footage from the police. Does the UK have the option to have packages delivered to trusted businesses for pickup? It's a common and useful service here in Japan where you can have your package delivered to a nearby convenient store and pick it up. Also double check the credit card you used to see if they offer warranty/theft services on electronics purchased. I really hope you get things straightened out quickly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
They can resolve it right away but your case is just one of them to them - just leave i for now as there is a case open. But isn't Wonda responsible too, to make sure their product reaches client or it should go back to them
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Yes, the seller is responsible for product to reach the client. And any reputable seller should take a responsibility. But the issue is that UPS tracking number shows that it was delivered and handed to me so if Wonda will get nasty, then can actually use this as a proof of delivery and refuse to help. But this is just my speculation and worse case scenario, I don't want to blame them, only that they could use a better company/signature delivery to make sure the package arrives to the right person. I asked UPS to update the tracking or send an email to confirm the case but they refused to do so. They still didn't update on anything and the last time I spoke with them, they again said they are waiting for depot to communicate with the driver and that I need to wai5 and contact them tomorrow morning. Obviously, they won't give a crap.

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Thats true, its night time there (even though I emailed them 5 hours ago so it was evening and their facebook agent actually read my message). The UK has that options and I usually use my office but as everything is closed, I just leave it to deliver to me. I never ever had any delivery issues before, only after moving to this new place a couple of months ago.

I used PayPal to pay for it and my debit card so I can only rely on PayPal as a last resort but I am waiting for Wonda to get back to me tomorrow.

I don't blame Wonda and understand this is not their fault but they could use a better provider and signature delivery, especially with the premium delivery option I opted in. They also have to take a responsibility for this as I ended up with no product.

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Guys, my wife just called me and said someone delivered my phone!!!! Running home now to check.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Buy your wife some flowers :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
If this is true someone is getting romantic night tonight... and probably its not your wife in the equation :) Really hopping best :) Let us know
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Ahahaha, will surely do haha! First impressions are very good - no dust in camera, no green tilt crap. All looks smooth and cool. Updates installed on setup. Will test throughoutly today. Sorry for my earlier panic and emotions guys! Apparently the driver delivered to a wrong place but then picked it up when and delivered to me when I raised a flag.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] evangelionpunk:
Where?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gavinfabl:
Really pleased all ended ok. Looking forward to seeing your feedback.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] KURDKiNG:
Im glad you got your phone bro, Does it come with a good case?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
ebay but sold out

from nevermsp he's away

there's a koren guy selling for 1190
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Thanks mate! Yes, it does come with a clear case. Seems to be a good one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] evangelionpunk:
Would buy it if it had warranty.

No warranty? Won't touch it!

Last 2 notes developed issues later on and needed to be fixed under warranty (proper repairs were going to be almost the same as buying brand new note if not for the warranty).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] ekerbuddyeker:
You can buy additional warranty from nevermsrp
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Typing now from the new phone.

First tests: VoLTE WiFi calling - both work on Three (didn't test on EE yet), 5G - didnt test yet as not in the area. Will test this week. Built-in Hiyya Spam Filter - works, Samsung Pay - worked with Starling bank card, but didn't buy anything yet. There are Chinese ads in Samsung Pay. The only think that is different is Samsung Keyboard - symbol layout is different. Everything else works good so far. Test is ongoing.

SURPRISINGLY carrier aggregation seems to work out of the box and MOREOVER on my S8 UK Exynos I only had 1 band at a time but Note 20 Ultra shows 2 bands simultaneously (1800 + 2100) and signal strength is a way better!

Please ask me if you want to test something else.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] TheUndertaker21:
this

always buy from him never had any issues so far
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
That's very helpful, thank you. Glad to hear VoLTE works, even though Wonda said it wouldn't, and Samsung Pay as well. I suspected Samsung Pay would work, as my experience has been that it will work with an international phone (or watch) with a CSC for a country that has Samsung Pay (although some cards that would otherwise work in your country may not work). An international phone with a CSC for a country that doesn't have Samsung Pay won't work, even if you use it in a country that does have Samsung Pay (as is the case for my LATAM SM-G9650).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] evangelionpunk:
Third party sure. Everything is fun and games until your device has a fault.

The phones already have manufacturer warranty so double pay on warranty because nevermsrp won't honor the original warranty or deal with any of it.

Speaking from personal experience, Samsung manufacturers warranty in Taiwan is fast and easy (painless experience unlike with some third parties). Not sure about HK or CN.

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How many developed an issue and so you claimed on the warranty and know how good it is?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
I would add it's not just a question of warranty - here in Canada (and other countries that don't have right-to-repair legislation), Samsung service centres won't touch international phones even if you're willing to pay! I know this from direct experience, as a friend of mine from Mexico cracked her screen, and both Samsung Mexico and Samsung Canada refused to repair it as it was an international model (even though it was from Latin America, we were willing to pay full cost, and the parts are identical). Even the seller could not recommend a repair centre, and was of no help whatsoever. I finally found a repair centre that was willing to do it (I think the manager was doing it off the books) - but obviously not ideal, and we might have been completely SOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
One thing I noticed so far - Google Map kinda lags but can be because not optimised yet. Also, Geekbench 5 shows only 500 score for single core which is a way below expected (900 something). The dual core is in expected range. Also, all utilities recognise it as Snapdragon 865 not Snapdragon 865+ which, I assume is because they are not updated yet?

Can someone check Geekbench 5 score?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] evangelionpunk:
Thanks for sharing. Important point to consider for sure.

Really wish Samsung would get on board with global warranty and support like Apple!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
The local buyer i got from ( easycellular ) said if any issues in 7 days to contact her and if in 1 year, contact her and she will ship the phone to HK for you to get it fixed

Awesome benefit of living in Vancouver, where there is a bigger market for such things and HK connection
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
Yes, the seller here in Ontario who I bought my SM-G9650 from would do the same, at least for warranty repairs - not sure if they would help with non-warranty repairs though. Regardless, I'm completely sold on dual-SIM phones, so I'll take that risk and look for non-warranty repair solutions if/when needed. I've also found a good source of genuine Samsung parts at reasonable prices, and don't mind tackling some jobs myself (e.g., replaced my Gear S3 battery). Next time I think I would even tackle the screen replacement myself, so I'm good with international phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] gavinfabl:
Thanks. Obviously when you can test 5G that would be great. Also battery test. Remember the SOT time reported by Samsung starts at midnight . Google Maps had a lag. Maybe leave it outside for 5 mins so it has a good first fix, or pre download an offline map to see if that makes any difference. Any other quirks.?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Is surely 865+ since is showing in Geekbench one core 3.09 Ghz (normal 865 is having 2.84?) Maybe is showing 865 since is 865 just overclocked. I have 954 single core and 3072 multi core just tried now.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
For those who got the phone, can you please check what is your software? is it N9860ZSU1ATH2 or N9860ZSU1ATH1

if anyone planning to root from Dr Ketans thread, please wait? as I was looped but revived via putting downlaoded N9860ZSU1ATH1 from SAMMOBILE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
Yes out of the box was ATH1 and updated to ATH2. There is option to patch kernel alone for the root (doesn't matter software version) but i will wait little bit to test everything. I hope he will give a little love to N9860 since a lot of us bought it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tribalfs:
Hi!

Anyone here who has the N9860 variant confirms that the unit supports e-sim?

Can be found by going to Settings > Connections > SIM card manager. If supported, you can see an "eSIMs" section inside the settings.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Hiyya. No esim, there is only sim card manager option that displays 2 physical sims.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] tribalfs:
thanks for the info.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
With Samsung Pay i was not expecting it to work..Just got mine tonight...No issues with the phone at all..Loving it so far...When you ran Samsung Pay the first time, did you have your UK sim in and did it ask you to install Samsung Pay Hong Kong? I am still setting up everything over wifif, yet do not want to put my Japanese sim in case it could case an issue getting Samsung Pay to actually work..What say ye?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
This is what I see - are you seeing baseband or build?

See my post here

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=83421499&postcount=167
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
From my experience, I don't believe Samsung Pay is triggered or affected by the SIM, but rather the phone's CSC (country-specific code) - in this case, Hong Kong. I think you will find that you can only install the Hong Kong version of Samsung Pay, and use cards that would otherwise work in Hong Kong - but I would certainly welcome others' views and experience with this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] djstalca:
I have same Baseband TH2 and TH1 Build number
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Well I went ahead and installed Samsung Pay HK and....it worked with no issues. I was able to add my US Credit Cards from several banks to include Chase with no issues...When I try to pay it goes to the pay screen and requests I place the phone on a card reader...I can not explain how over joyous I am...I always buy unlocked phones due to Japanese smart phone market being always behind, full of bloatware and usually carry models that cater to the demographic... NTT DoCoMo will probably get the N20U sometime this winter or next spring..None the less I have had only 2 unlocked Samsung phones work with Samsung Pay...I distinctly remember one being a Korean model due to the ads and I can not remember the other...Yet having Samsung Pay feels like you are actually getting to use all of the phones feature...I still have not put my sim card in it, I probably will before heading to bed..I just hope that does not cause any issues...Aside from that the display is wonderful, phone is fast, no esim, camera pics look great and I did not have any issues with focal depth....I am starting a fresh install, which takes time, rather than doing a backup...Looking forward to trying Samsung Pay at the register tomorrow.

I also want to add that VoLTE is working just fine for me. I think my phone sees the 5G bands, yet I know for sure that I have to change my plan to a 5G plan in order to use it. I will look into that next week to see if it is worth it for 5G where I am located at. I also placed the sim in with no issues to Samsung Pay. Going to apply the latest firmware update and call it a night.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] jtOttawa:
Good to hear! Again, I think the key is the CSC of the phone - I have a LATAM S9+ and, even though we have Samsung Pay here in Canada, I cannot install Samsung Pay on it because the CSC of the phone is clearly for a country that doesn't have it. I get around this by using my Canadian Gear S3 - which does have Samsung Pay, and installs it to the Samsung Wearables app. Conversely, I had a UAE A7 which, similar to yours, came with the UAE version of Samsung Pay, and which accepted and worked with my cards.

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I should add that you might find that debit cards won't work with HK Samsung Pay (just as they won't work if you tap them overseas) - but please do let us know if this is not the case and they do work - thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Samsung Pay did allow me to add my Chase Debit Card and it goes through to the tap&pay screen, so hopefully that is a full go...I will try once I get to work to see how it goes and report back.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] VirtualWaver:
Congrats man, enjoy it!

I just entered UK sim card upon startup. It didn't ask to install, I installed it myself from Play store. However, it did ask to Hong Kong plugin for Samsung pay. I suspect if we can modify or install Samsung Japan, UK, etc plugin, it might work.

Can you do Geekbench 5 and report the results? My multi core score is expected but single core was A WAY below any other model (500 in comparison to expected 900). Just want to figure it out...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] KURDKiNG:
Ive seen a couple people mention this, whats going on? I know its Snapdragon 865+ but is the hongkong varient weaker for some reason, im kind of worried since im gonna buy this phone tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] inningsdefeat500:
Geekbench 5
[Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers] cezeff:
Modification to Samsung Pay elements are not easy if not extremely difficult to do. There is no Samsung Pay Japan. Japan uses it's only proprietary payment system in their domestic smartphones. That's why I'm so hyped if Samsung Pay does work on this phone. Bout to test it in a few minutes here!

See attached for the requested Geekbench... Were you running your tests with backgrounds apps going or while the phone was busy downloading and setting things up?