yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
nope, i had the same error, without connected to pc. but ma 2gb card was in. hehe. noonski' must be havin a final suprise as he mentioned final version had no bugs reported. but then again this mite be due to contacts missing from our end. cos i only sync my contacts after the customizations. hehehe
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Noonski gonna try the new public beta next friday I think when i'm back from Paris :)

The latest nightly is gonna have to wait a bit longer, want a lot of apps and data on my phone when i leave the country ;)

btw TomTom7 rocks :D

btw could you spell my name in the right manner! :) thank you

and keep up the good work my man!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
How do you mean HovacNL?

More Apps PFew Addict. And enjoy your trip.

The error does no harm.

It's the last line of Install script, so it does not mess with the previous lines:D

It was a test, i posted it to the development thread but not here.

The build i have now does not have that error.

And it's not sunday yet.... This was still a nightly.

I have decided on keeping one Menu Blank to be configured for your personal needs.

You know like favourite settings Extra installed Apps or Web shortcuts.

This version is missing a lot of the new icons fro the menu, It's a no worries build, well except for that Diamond Keyboard. (haven't had the time to do the research on Gullum's Diamond Keyboard.

Ah well at least opening HTC Album from Camera works. (Go, HTCTouchP for that Camera)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Hey Noonski Awesome :D

My latest release is on Diamon 20273 XIP. It is even more stable :) Can you PM me the SPC password, the server address and login details too? (Formatted my PC so lost everything) I'll up the XIP on server

You left the double slash in WriteFile, so the error :)

NoonskiEdit:

Aaarrghhhhhhhhhhh

Dammit

Like those old days not understanding why buildos would give errors...

New Xip Xip Xip new Xip New Xip New Xip yeah (repeat and rinse then sing We Will We Will)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
ooooo more stability! :) me like :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ameerxp:
Nice Work Guys

I just want to say Excelent job guys, working as a team and making this effort to make this ROM for us, really your a great.

Best luck for u all Surface Team .
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
duh! hehe, thought i wud ask this jus out of the blue, ummm, what advanatges does new XIP and SYS gives actually? is it jus stability or my ass is abt to get flamed?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
The Sys files hold most of the core applications you always see.

These rarily get updated that much and (when was the last time the calander changed?)

Changed are so small and unnoticeable in SYS that upgrading is not worth it.

The XIP however holds some of the most important files that Windows CE run on. NK.exe Device.exe and some others. But these are the parts you don't mess around with and between new builds most changes occur in these files.

As for OEM files again these are rarily updated like the SYS, but since most HTC applications are in this section you will find that more files get updated in the OEM files.

Also using full SYS and OEM from a VGA device even if it's newer isn't the best way to go. Yes it will work. But most resource files like .DLL carry extra Graphics for that higher resolution. Yes they also hold regular QGVA graphics, so they will work.

The files themselves just for this reason are bigger. And since the files hold more information, in microseconds it will still take longer to read through the file, and it might take a bit more memory remembering and storing the used Resource from these files.

But the XIP section is as far as i understand resolution independent.

There's a lot we can do in OEM and SYS to squeeze performance but there's not a lot to tweak in XIP as this quickly becomes system critical.

Just try to kill device.exe or nk.exe in a good taskmanager, you'll see how important it is ;)

But this is just what i know (think) globally.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
got it, thankx for the nice explanation. now i m impressed to try new builds :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Euhm, it's not skinned yet that's why it's a unskinned public preview.

The skinner ran of with a Playmate to Hawai ;)

It's currently running Triple Darkness Skin.

Beside the whole interface adepts to whatever Theme you use.

I believe there's a screenshot fanaddict that will post a few screens. Or i will make some new ones later in the night.

Maybe ayyu3m will make a few screenshots of all the update Menu's and home screen with his favorite personal theme. (diamond Theme does not fit with HTCHome and BTstatus at that spot.)

Or better yet why don't some of you post your Fav Themes?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
how can i improve the communication manager a bit? it shows only 3 buttons. & advanced configuration tool also didnt help.

& i more thing after opening the bluetooth explorer the warning is shown in some language other than english.

nice rom anywez........

Noonski Edit: Question added to Future FAQ

Commmanager functions will move to the Endkey which isn't finished yet.

(Was planning to do that after finishing this build)

So it might be i will have to switch to 6 button commanager in final version.

It was sort of a Proof of Concept that even Commanager can be integrated into the menu system.

Basicly the new Endky Commanager will be nothing more then 24 different version of the same menu and 24 scripts to control them.

Or maybe if i'm lucky i only need 24 scripts.

Button runs script, Script starts service, Script renames menu (or writes next menu from thin air) then restarts the newly renamed/created menu with the ON/OF State. As you can see i'm not a programmer as this could propably be done differently.

Would be even nicer if Mort Buttons would get additional function to Show Up or Down state of a button depending on a registry key.

(hard work for Mort less for me )

So depending on how long final skinning is going to take i might even have it finished.

Yup Bluetooth explorer need to replace the MUI file, good find, easy fix, This was the version i used from The Piko Crew which will be doing the german version. I have WWE version in stock Added to To Do.

Also the Commmanager used is the actuall Windows Mobile Commmanager, it's always been in the Roms as wrlmgr.exe (wonder why some people don't take it out if they are using HTC commmanager)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mobix:
Suweeeeet .. downloading now .. will post after flashing it my elfin tomorrow.:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] haarlem2004:
:) just flashed it, looks great love the cube!

Noonski Edit: Put Similar Question and A into Future FAQ

Yeah i removed the cube animations from the Menu, but it seams you read up a bit and found the way to change this.

(Cube animation sometimes takes a few seconds to start because it has to to more calculations)

Also one of the reasons i chose to start Taskmanager is because it confronts a user with the fact that Stuff is already running before you start more apps. The only thing that BTstatus X button is good for now is to controll the Long Tapp of X button to close

Don't mind the memory i had all the apps open.

Hey ayyu3m, how's it looking when you set it to use you Che Backdrop?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] werffje:
flashed it.. looks great only when I push start, programs all is empty....start, settings is OK.... how come

Noonski Edit: Added to Future FAQ
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nl1010:
Hi There, I had also the same problems with Opera and IE on the Shadow 2.1 ROM, after about 1 minute, the message Not enough memory, please close some apps...... and then Opera and IE are "hard" closed in some way.

In this ROM there is no problem at all, browsing works perfectly :)

Question: When will Touch Surface 6.1 be released officially ??

I think it's very difficult to make it better than the already released Beta v2,

I'm working with at the moment :)

So, again, I have great RESPECT for Noonski and all other programmers of this be-youtifull rom !!!

Greez, Theo.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
There is a reason i never switched to a newer version of Opera ;)

This one workes so why change it?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
Im using this rom for quite some time now... all the major bugs has been fixed but there r still a few things that i think should be resolved before the final version comes-

1. the network wizard is an older one. dosnt give me full support for India. so a newer network wizard with full support is needed.

2. the esmertec jbed is also an older version. dosnt give full screen support & also sometimes i hav problem in connecting with internet.

3. The htc streaming media is not workin. always says 'file type not supported'. so i think the older version was better.

4. word suggestion & word completion is not working in keyboard.

would love to see this things corrected in the final version....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Supercows:
I have exact the same problem here! The BT setting are correct here.. Any other options? When you switch screens it just disappear.

Further it works fine, the first time I installed the rom he was terrible slow. But I installed it again and it is fast now..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Hey Noonski. Ideas for a non-physical-files-in-ROM links and scripts with BS. Got the initial links to work on mine ;)

The new ROM I mentioned is useless currently (till Pham replies to me) Some errors while extracting and also XIP doesnt boot correctly. So I didnt upload to server :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Confirmed the Opera Bit.

All I can do about this is update Opera and hope for the best.

There's not a lot i can about this behaviour as i could at least with opera only repeat it with Opera.

This version of the network wizard used to come with different packages of world regions.

I haven't checked the newer version from Diamond and opera but these add either 400 or 600 kb but i'll add it nonetheless. (maybe i'm lucky and it has the correct NL settings for T-mob)

And here i was thinking it was a new version of Jbed.

Any Cab for this can help.

3. We'll soon find out if the TouchPro Streaming Media is Qvga compatible. and if this actually has anything to do with the version build instead of me finding out it is a simple reg edit after breaking my head researching it for days ;)

Number 4 has been bugging me as i don't understand it.

When i use the Diamond keyboard i get word prediction and completion.

Maybe someone can point me to a rom with the expected behaviour, because i don't understand whart isn't working.

(Then again i do have a slighlty updated build with a few Tweaks for the Keyboard.)

Did he use this for PDAVIET48?

It had more then some errors extracting.

I wish i was all knowing, i would buy you all a pro after "winning the lottery"

Busy , Busy Busy, No Time To Stay Cool, Thanks anyway.

Here's the Audible to test from hardcoded SD install ;) (just found out it did not attach)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Okay first the GPRS going on.

There is an advanced config and registry setting that might have to do with this.

"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:000001

This is what i set it to.

Next update Opera.

Done.

For Streaming i changed

<parm name="EnableExtraRTPPackets" datatype="integer" value="0" />

to

<parm name="EnableExtraRTPPackets" datatype="integer" value="1" />

Updated Network Wizard to Connection Setup from Touch Pro

1_5_34317_1

It won't run at start up any more because it uses new Touch Pro and Diamond Boot Manager.

Cook and test now.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
this home screen is great what is it?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Its BatteryStatus (now HomeScreen ++) and the theme is my custom theme :) Now a bit more improved :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Enough space to add a row of Mort Buttons HomePLugin App Launcher ;)

Good thing your taking the time to Explore the Skinning of BTstatus.

Never had the time to delve into this, but it does use less resources, i gather?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
im like the btstatus im using mobile shell i liked the other icons better just my opinion but i like it alot
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
oh i forgot to ask or more like tell im making you a signature for the surface rom crew... well if im aloud lol im also working on a new approach to just plain htc home screen with a surface desgin "to fit in with the innovation... all is going well with that for now "knocks on wood".. even though im in hawaii on my eeepc

also what is the current build program list...cant wait to get back to flash i have to conserve my room on my eepc only 512mb left yikes!!!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well eventually making different styles is the easiest to apply to a rom so if it's not in the initial version it might be in the Bareda Remix Version :D

Programs list is being brought over to:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2484354&postcount=3

From

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2242965&postcount=4

I have attached the new Connection Wizard from Touch Pro with the Data Base so it can be checked for available connections (still need to flash)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
That is exactly what I was getting to ;)

The new HS++ uses very very very less resource :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Aah good a tester for the Network Wizard ;)

I haven't found the password that is on the new provisioning file.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
:D my own remix... maybe even ameet can make a "surface " version of his skin for bt status as a addon.. just an idea to pnder damn this small keyboard!!!! is the new connection center alot better?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
We'll know in five minutes
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Well, the TS skin for HS++ can be made up and added as an addon cab (not within the ROM) if the chief (Noonski) approves :D Although the XML coding and Mort scripting is in learning stages with full force :) Its only the skins which will make the difference
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well it's got the correct T-Mobile NL settings that's a good thing.

And it's got India in the list of countries.

Now Switching to Jbed version 0_0_20080610_2_1

And Streaming Player 3_0_18171720_00

From Rapheal Rom.

Also found Whiterat's Streaming player 2.1
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pecevm:
Well now its perfect. My country is included. Thanks and roll on this great projekt mr. Noonski...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Tnx for the confirm.

The newer version is a bit smaller then the diamond version so iwas worried it might be missing som.

But then again they only changed the compression on the zip file.

offering 350k to get a wider support is more then accepted.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pecevm:
Ok so I need the space.

The first time evriting vent ok when inctaling provided network setup cab. After restart i dont have my setings soo someting vent wrong. OK i have preinstaled old network wizard on my device maybe a colison, I dont think so, by the way i have the second public beta...

Error mesage: Error in the database
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well it works the first time i run it i'll check more times.

Also i'm just now running Gmail.jad and Jar.

Can anyone up a full screen and a 3d app ?

And to make matters worse

1. the network wizard is an older one. dosnt give me full support for India. so a newer network wizard with full support is needed.

Fixed

2. the esmertec jbed is also an older version. dosnt give full screen support & also sometimes i hav problem in connecting with internet.

Fixed

3. The htc streaming media is not workin. always says 'file type not supported'. so i think the older version was better.

Fixed

4. word suggestion & word completion is not working in keyboard.

Still don't understand this one.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Hmm. I actually have the original network wizard from the ElfIn, but at home in the ExtRom. That one supports India and a lot many countries. I'll upload it on server tonight from home
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
The new in is also good/even better.

I removed the Auto part exe.

And now run it at the end of the morts setup script, it doesn't need the auto.exe part.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
thanx a lot man... good to see that u resolved my problems before u get kidnapped by raphael...:D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Haven't tested yhe internet connection in the JBed build yet.

Buyt it ate .jad and .jar files.

And Gmail started in full screen.

Few more hours..... tick tock.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
I wont let you get kidnapped by Raphael and catch you in the Mod threads :D

Got the 20275 build but cant download from company :( I hate our IT guys

Will dump and test tonight, if working then I'll upload the bins to server tonight
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Damn why do i have to work can't play eith it now ...:mad:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Woh Noonski, big fixes in the last days :)

Even though my head is filled with snot... bah i hate having a cold...

I WILL FLASH THIS NEW NIGHTLY

And what does my eye see? no more SP4 but SP5????

Flashing now, btw first flash under vista ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
If you succeed then also post something for us on how to do flashing in Vista. Been trying to get this baby work under Vista but some stupid error keeps popping up :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Noonski, love the little extra skinning on BS already. You did add the Calendar under the mortbuttons menu, but not in the startmenu, can you add that for backward compatibility?

Also the new integrated network wizard, seems to work okej, but auto would be better for usability... But your the chief :)

Also the link in the startmenu for the network wizard is off. Yeah i really notice all the little things ;)

Somehow the gollum keyboard is working like it should i think... i can't put my finger on what it is... but my spidersense is tingling:rolleyes:.... Get back to you on that when i have an idea.

Uh worked pretty normal here.... Okej little how to then on my Vista SP1:

Download and install Microsoft Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for Windows Vista

Connect your phone and wait until drivers are installed correctly and phone is recognized in WMDC 6.1. Then the connection should be stable and a sync with your Office Outlook should have taken place.

This could take multiple tries before connection is created right, use the WMDC to verify this

Extract all the **** for the rom flash

Rightmouseclick on ROMUpdateUtility.exe and use "Run as Administrator" Probably important

Follow the steps as normal, when device goes into boot (triocolor) mode, Vista will detect a new device and begin installing drivers for this.

Here comes the nag... Because driver install is to slow, the flash program will time-out, just exit it.

Wait until drivers are installed properly again for the bootdevice. Leave the Touch on and run ROMUpdateUtility.exe again.

Device info will be blank since in bootmode, but flash can commence.

Gray screen with process bar will appear and flash will go as usual...

TADA!!!!

TS SP5 Build 05 flashed to Touch!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Silly me!! :) Forgot to mention I have Vista 64bit :o
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Last Nightly was a very Dirty One just concentrated on testing the new Apps fine tuning later.

There is only one Vista Method.

Go To Bootloader ;)

Even In Bootloader i sometimes get connection errors.

BBL

PS: Someone's back from Vacation and i'm going to PLay with my new Friend today.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
Feedback

1. the esmertec jbed is workin perfectly bt i think u forgot to change the link for Java in the mortscript menu. it will be 'JBed.exe' instead of 'jeodek.exe'.

2. again problem with the network wizard. when i opened it first time it opened normally & everything went ok. bt the next time when i try to open the network wizard or connection setup its giving error messege.

3. streming media is workin well. bt bit of skinning problem is there at the bottom. so i overwrote it with the one given below. its the same version bt no skinning problems.works perfect

4. the icon of the 'personal' tab is missing.

5. now about the word suggestion- as far as i know word suggestion & completion is given by two methods here- XT9 & windows default word suggestion. XT9 comes with htc keyboards & when XT9 works it overtakes the windows default method. in the cloudyfa rom there was no touch keyboard & hence no XT9.so the windows default method used to work. now in this rom XT9 is there & its working with diamond keyboard. bt its not workin with the plain keyboard. & as XT9 is here the windows default method is also not workin. now i hav no idea how to tackle this.one option may be removing the diamond keyboard & keypads bt it dosnt seem much realistic.

below is the streaming media that im using-
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
1. Can confirm, ah just a link

2. Can also confirm. Network Wizard (form accessories menu, and from startmenu) gives error file cannot be opened, Either it is not signed of blabalblabla. Startmenu also has no icon. From network settings screen, the Connection Setup gives the errors Error in database and Error in program.

3.ok

4. The icon can now be personlized, noonksi posted it a few posts back. Place that png in the cabs in your storage card and it will detect it.

6 HATSJOOOOO!!!! damn I have being sick! anybody have an instant cure for the cold ;)?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] gvanlee:
Same here, but I got things working right out of the box...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Hey Noonski. Uploaded the XIP (unedited xip.bin) from 20275 Build on server in Kitchen :) Happy practicing :D

Trying to upload the CHT imgfs.bin too but getting disconnected :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
And...

Flame, on number 2 :p.

I was so happy the other stuff working already.

The nightlies really are where i'm at at that particular moment. (you know just before i jump into bed)

But don't get me wrong, not mentioning it might make me forget it.

I'll fix up the details this week, then i will have to pay close attention and help out on Raphael thread with the whole HardSPL thing needing testing.

That will give Surface_Rom some time to catch up.

TNX ameet i certainly will.

Just was in the Pub chatting up a nice Indian Girl.

PS: Touch Pro and Diamond DO have a capacitive Screen and Multitouch detection.

HTC where nice enough to leave some files in there so Dev's can try to understand it.

Hope you can forgive me for having a little go at my new toy.

Now if only i could port the outlook message swiping function to the Touch.....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
congrats noonski. hope u enjoy ur new toy. and i do mean the touch pro...yeah baby yeah.

now to do some catching up on this thread. nice to see Ameet on this side of the forum. now we wud get a super duper SPC....

aaaaaaaah the vast beauty of gals....****! wat am i thinking!!! bump bump...needa go n watch Dexter on CN
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pecevm:
Hey man you have a great toy there, Touch Pro is amaizing.

Make me happy mr. Noonski with another publick beta, or maybe the password. I know its for SPC crew but i can be of help too.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Edit Dammit looks like only the button bar is Capactive and Multi sensitive.

Still Cool Though.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cherryef:
Hey, I've been away battling hurricanes and such. Lots of traffic here and progress! Would you try attaching the Audible again. I still don't see it. I'll test it out n let u kno.

TX
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
can this version help? removing the networkwizardauto.exe might hav caused the prob i think.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
SPC is still Noonski's baby and we are just the care takers :)

Hey ayuu3m. Dexter's being troubled by his sister, but he's a great scientist :D

@Noonski. Congrats on your Pro. Like I said I still wont let that kidnap you :p

p.s. How was the Indian beauty? Is she planning to drop by in India? :D