yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthbane2k:
I'll tell you why. Because the Diamond is the most fully fledged windows mobile device that is comparable to the iphone. The iphone gets brilliant apps such as facebook, myspace and more yet the diamond, while able to run apps of this quality, is left out. Yes the facebook app vexes me most, its so freaking awesome on the iphone, I would love to have facebook alerts on my diamond while being able to view pictures full screen on that gorgeous vga screen. The technology of the diamond is being wasted...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] BushwalkerSP:
Unfortunately, I must concur with you there. It looks to me that WM is facing a dead end, because of performance issues and speed. Using Internet is still an issue and there are a lot of instances when some apps are crashing when installed on such device. Yahoo! Go for example is one of them. MS needs to spend more time and money on teir OS or face the extinction. It's a shame that Diamond looks second rate to iPhone, because of OS problems.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Noam23:
There are MANY iphones in the world, yet in comparison there are VERY FEW Diamonds (or WM phones with VGA screens).

WM7 is the future though.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] drvdijk:
With Apple's iPhone hype, lots of attention has been drawn to that platform. Many developers want to get on that hype to get some attention right now. However, as the hype passes, I think only real quality programs on the iPhone will have a future, just as only real quality programs are being developed for WM right now.

I think it might not be the Apple platform we should be very affraid for, but possibly the upcoming Android platform, which might get the best of both worlds.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Sergio PC:
What ever, I would rather die than getting a fruityphone.

fruitphone SUCKS

Remember second best they are!!!!!!!!!!

Im sorry im gonna do this on every fruityphone thread, I just despise the damm fruit.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] danthekilla:
ok heres the deal

ok so there are 2 reasons that not as many developers are making stuff for win mo as we would like (im a developer by the way) so..

the first reason is that there is no uniformity between windows mobile phones and pocket pcs for instance i have a diamond with:

530mhz cpu

16mb graphics card that developers cant use

192mb of memory (64 of which is not available to use)

a g-sensor

640 by 480 screen

gps hardware

touch scrollwheel and lightsensor with 2 cams

one of my friends got a phone a few weeks ago just before the diamond came out a tytn II (kasier) now its a great phone still but it only has:

400mhz cpu

128mb of memory

320 by 240 screen

gps hardware

lightsensor with 2 cams

now as a dev what do i do?

do i make a great game for the diamond?

do i spend more time and let the project quality suffer by making sure it runs on at least 100 differnt winmo phones?

do i make a game that runs at only 320 by 240 and dosnt use anything new and just hope that all phones from now on can run it?

that is the one thing that the iphone has over us (it may be a very mediocre phone and a crappy gaming/entertainment device but they are all the same) and until this has been rectified we will keep loseing devs to the iphone

BUT something big is going to be happening when windows mobile 7 comes out early next year things will change windows mobile 7 imposes some hardware restrictions to hardware makers these being:

640 by 480 screen rez as a minimum (that must support touch)

16mb graphics hardware that must have fully unlocked drivers for devs

256mb ram as a minimum

512mb rom minimum

tilt sensor is optional but must be compatible with windows mobile 7s tilt api

gps is optional but must be compatible with windows mobile 7s gps api

(gps and tilt are not required but if it has one it must be compatibal with winmo7 by doing this it means that any game that uses a tilt sensor will be able to work on any device with one)

and the biggest one is it must have as a minimum a 600mhz arm11 cpu

all these things will change the way devs make apps and games for winmobile it means that anything made for any winmo7 phone will run on any other winmo7 phone at the same min speed and other than that it will be like a pc game may have low mid and high settings incase you have a 32mb graphics card but they also know that you will have to have a 16mb card at the min

nvidias Tegra is going to be an all in one chip with a 600 or 800mhz arm 11 cpu a 16mb gfx card and image and video decoders all biult in anything that uses this will be fully winmo7 compliant

end rant lol and for anyone that actually bothers to read all of this good job:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthbane2k:
bump for discussion..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] iliescu902:
will win mobile 7 be available to usage on the diamond as well ? i'm curious about this and i haven't found any info on this.

on-topic: it's funny how i chose the diamond over the iPhone. my decision relied mostly on the customization abilities of this phone and here i was not thinking of windows mobile since this is my first pocket pc. i was astonished by the sheer posibilities you can find inside such a phone and all available no thanks to the curtesy of the producers but of users like you and me and all the others. i think that as long as we'll be around, so will the developers, because even i could be one if i wanted too, especially cause i just bought a winmobile device that i'm happy with. so it's all about will.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Black93300ZX:
Kid, you already made a thread about this same topic, stop being a little girl and let it go. It's old, it's played, it's done.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
For practically 500 USD (converted, not even released for the US) it was a total over hype. For that rate you better go find yourself an 865 device.

... Or even a Dimensity device at this point honestly, looks like it'll be a while before you ever get flagship specs again at a budget level with Qualcomm.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] karimski75:
Opinions are like as###les. Everyone has one.

Like it, buy it. Don't like it don't buy it.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] drifftkingg97:
Indeed, so much money wasted on marketing that could have been used to reduce the price of the device. Be better off with a Redmi K20 Pro or a Realme X3, slap a custom ROM.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] cheptii:
I ordered mine for 369€ from amazon(Germany) (they are doing a 30€ off for prime customers).

Im pretty satisfied with the price tbh, I got my oneplus 3 4 years ago for 400€ and I think its time to upgrade it.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] paulisimo:
I still use my OnePlus X (Onyx), which I bought ~5 years ago for 299€, but I'll gonna wait for the 6GB+64GB version to show up in Europe, because it should cost the same 299€.

369€ for 8GB+128GB is great deal, but I don't play games, so I don't need extra RAM or space..
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] janitory:
You have no idea what you are talking about.

Current exchange rate suggests that Nord would cost 460 USD and that's when you convert it from 399 EUR, not 500 like you suggest.

Every Oneplus device of the last few years was cheaper in the US than in Europe, even when you adjusted it for VAT.

499$ devices were 499€.

So this would be a 399$ phone.

What do you expect from a budget phone in that price range?
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Batsy538:
I do agree tho The realme X50 pro is 489$ 8gb 128 gigs and it comes with SD865
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] nemesis.sisemen:
Well for 419€(399€ for phone, new oneplus buds and a gift mistery box, 20€for pre order) i thunk is very good. I loke it i buy it, who don't, well don't buy.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Suraj Pandey:
Lol. Use same UI and same Android forever
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Flockrock:
why should I pay 300$ more for a 865 (OP8) if the 765 offers more than enough power for me?

so I can text faster and read news on the toilet faster?

Get control over your 'I always need to have the best on the market' attitude if you can't afford it lmao.

I'm glad the Nord exists because honestly I wouldn't buy anything else than a pixel or OP (or maybe some android one devices) because of the software no matter what cpu they offer.

I mean you can get a Poco F2 Pro with 865 for around the same price as the nord sometimes, but MIUI (or OneUI/ColorOS/EMUI) ruins the hardware and my OG pixel feels faster than that.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Deleted member 5408779:
Ja! Same here. I think it's definitely worth it.:good:
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Az Biker:
* * * Thread Cleaned * * *

Let's stop the insults, the arguing, and the vulgar juvenile chatter.

Comments need to be helpful, respectful and on-topic, as outlined in Forum Rules.

Disagreeing with another member's opinion can be done with respect and without insults or rude comments.

If you haven't figured out how to communicate with other adults without being rude, disrespectful, or insulting, please keep your trash on the social media sites, not here.

If it continues, the associated accounts will be reviewed for restriction or removal. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Thanks for everyone's cooperation.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] abhilash_s_j:
this guy has some serious maths problem or he hates Oneplus for no good reason, because 24,999₹ = ~335$ as of now and top model is 29,999₹=~402$.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
show me a cheaper phone with the same or better specs with OIS and a most likely an active developer community.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Don't be silly...

... Well for some reason my pics aren't uploading but out of the 845 and 765 the 845 is still slightly better. Show me that there aren't affordable 845 phones right now.

https://versus.com/en/qualcomm-snapdragon-765g-vs-qualcomm-snapdragon-845
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Saiger:
So does any of these "affordable" SD845 phones have a 4000+mha battery? a 90hz Amoled display? 5G support? a 2 year official software support?

Don´t get me wrong the SD845 is an awesome processor but it only beats the SD765 in gpu performance while losing in power efficiency and connectivity.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
C'mon though let's be real, all bs aside. You could get a used SD855 device off Swappa in just fine condition for at or better than that price. Why are you fooling yourself? I get it new, flashy hype. Go for it, it's just my personal opinion that your (closer to)$500(than $400) could be funneled in a "better" direction for what you're wanting.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Saiger:
You were talking about 845 phones and now its suddenly 855 ones...

Yea a USED higher end phone from last year is still better than a new midrange one from 2020. That´s the point. You are comparing 2 different price brackets. But it´s pretty damn hard here in EU to fins a better phone for ~370€ even used.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] jacdelad:
First comparison just compares the GHz, that doesn't say anything.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Deleted member 5408779:
It doesn't matter 845 or 765. They have both almost the same power and until you don't play Ultra HD 4k blablabla games you won't notice any difference! I have a 7T and a Redmi note 9 pro and I can tell you even the 720G in the note 9 does a very good job here! For surfing or YouTube and music even a Snapdragon 720g is enough. Battery is very great, much better than my OP 7T. Only camera sucks. So let's wait for the Nord.?
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] sudione:
Nord is OK but I have a few questions - where is .....:

1. microSD slot?

2. USB 3.1 with video output?

3. Splashproof?

4. Stereo speakers?

5. Radio FM?

6. IR port?

7. Mini-jack?

8. Camera with optical zoom?

9. DAC?

10. What is the maximum screen brightness?

11. PC mode (DeX)?

12. Open bootloader?

P.S. I keep my fingers crossed for the person who will compare Nord vs redmi 10X Pro.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
exactly. i never came close to max out the performance of my op5, so why would i want an even faster phone with even more performance if that would mean to pass on some goodies like 5G, OIS and stuff?
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] flash713:
I see a lot of people comparing OnePlus to Xiaomi. I currently own a Mi Mix 2 and a OnePlus 6t and in my opinion OnePlus makes a better device. Not to say anything bad about Xiaomi because they're a good company imo.. I just prefer OnePlus over them. Something tells me that the price is going to end up coming down on the Nord. We shall see.... If and when it does id probably get one if they were $350... But I'm a cheapo and buy most all my devices off swappa and eBay used in near mint condition..
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
damn, should have gone with aluminium frame, not just plastic :(
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Daaaamn sorry guys MKBHD had to tell you THE TRUTH...

I know it hurts
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] :
You guys acting like kids... You get what you pay for and there is nothing to wonder about. More money --> better quality. Oneplus isn't Xiaomi don't mix them. In the past almost all phones had a plastic frame and nobody was crying about it. Don't use your phone as an artisan tool and you are good to go. Short: Don't buy it if you don't like it!
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] iesheiden:
For me its not a Fail! You can the most bang out of your bucks.... ! Im hoping to get it as fast as Posible after the 4 of August:)
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] janii:
Im still debating wether to get OnePlus nord or Realme x50 5g. I did already pre order it for ~330 euro from amazon.de

The Realme X50 5G has better specs overall, except for camera and display (realme has 120hz though) but USB 3.1 speed, some better performance and better battery life. Also it has Dolby audio instead of that ****ing useless dirac **** the OnePlus has. Way better for listening to music

Not to mention the Realme x50 5g is almost 100 euros cheaper

OnePlus Nord is defnitely overhyped. There are and were already similar phones in the market.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Hastaloego:
acting like kids? what's your problem? no reason to get personal because people don't agree with your opinion.

also in the past, almost all phones had a rotary dial too and nobody was crying about it either. what's your argument? back to the past?

how many of these phones did break because someone did sit on it or forgot it in their pockets only to add to the plastic waste mountain?

using aluminum/metal frame instead of plastic won't raise the final price much, but it's way more sturdy and a better heat conductor too.

there is simply no reason to go with plastic anymore.

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to me the x50 5g is no alternative, unfortunately. for once i set my mind on OIS for my next phone, also i would need the LTE B20 and back from oled to lcd? nah i dont think so.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] flash713:
If the world wasn't in outbreak virus season still i would most definitely buy a Nord!!! And a Pixel 5 XL when they come out as well. I guarantee the Nord will have probably more development going on once it gets rolling than most devices here on xda. I never cared much about whether a device is made of aluminum or plastic. It's what's inside that counts and the screen resolution that I look at. I also never cared much for YouTube reviews and especially MKBHD. He's done many reviews on devices and I didn't share his opinions. I actually prefer Qbking77 aka Tim Schofield more and I seem to have more similar opinions as he does and I trust all he says. But even so I still believe you must have a device to really get the full experience and taking anyone's word for it many times just isn't the same in my experience. Look at Google play store app reviews. It's full of people writing bad reviews on apps due to their own user errors. Also here on xda forums.. You have all sorts of people saying things that are wrong with certain roms and again it's their own user errors. Until we actually get the Nord and use it ourselves we really don't know. That's my opinion anyway...
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Big ol' Flippity Floppinheimer
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] vishvanjay:
Need some help here ? . So as a user of Oneplus 3T for last 3.5 Years I am a Really Big fan of Oneplus devices and it's clean Oxygen OS. So after researching multiple devices. I got these 3 Devices Which I can buy.

1)ofc Nord. 2) Redmi K20 Pro also known as Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro. 3)Realme X2 Pro

So as Far it goes for OP Nord. The 3.5 Jack is kind of a deal breaker for me, still I can use my Bluetooth Headsets tho.

I am just not sure about the Product Quality of Realme and Xiaomi and as far it goes for the specification of the phones The X2 Pro is the winner , and the k20 pro have Clean screen without any kind of notch.

If you can help me choose or Tell me any other Phone My prioritize are

Screen>3.5 Jack (If possible) >Battery Life(Fast charge is must)>Processor>OS>Camera

I am kind of stuck which to buy. It is like Quality or Quantity. ?? any kind of Help is Appreciated.

Thank you
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] vishvanjay:
[MENTION=6031703]Hastaloego[/MENTION] cool Website will try.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] D.Spirit:
Camera is certainly overhyped, other than that phone is ok if we compare it with Galaxy A71 (5G). As for the very cheap Realme X50 5G, remember you cannot change the realme chinese launcher.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Xiaomi Mi 10 looks dope...

Yes, yes I know it's not in the same price bracket blah blah blah.

... but after you sell your 6T or whatever you have it's pretty much in the same bracket and you can grab Chinese model off Aliexpress/Gearbest or whatever and it has enough bands to work in the US.

PS: literally an example of doing something better with your 500
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Cyterafle:
Who told you It'll cost 500$ ? Wait for official announcement maybe they will do like Google with (1€ = 1$ on smartphone price for them)
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] balb0wa73:
The phone is great, i aslo have a pixel 4xl, the camera with gcam is very good indeed.

Some samples i took earlier today in this thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/one-plus-nord.18893851/page-2

[IMG="pic"]https://i.postimg.cc/fTMHG9D2/DSCF5702.jpg[/IMG]
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Yes we understand the captivating effect of high resolution wallpapers ?

..and environmental aesthetics ?

You could sell a toaster with Android on it like this.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Pollie81:
whaha, some lovin and hating over here.

fun topic to read..

many people base their opinions om some feature a phone does or does not have and imediately some device gets to be the bom or it's e total peace of ****..

you can argue over some things about the nord but my personal opinion is that it's just a good device for a good price.

there are a lot of competitors mentioned over here but none to be worth it over a Oneplus.

i'm not saying that oneplus is perfect but after stock android from pixel it's the best runner up, i've had the mi9 on Miui 12 and the Oppo Reno 3 Pro 5G wich i returned within a few days.

Damn, Color OS is ok but still has a lot of bugs, i prefer Miui 12 over it for sure but still is doesn't come close to Oxygen OS.

And the software part for me is one of the most important factors.

And not all devices are well available, depends on where you live..

Right now i'm using a Oneplus 7T Pro but i'm kind of done with huge and heavy devices, i also don't need the best CPU for my daily use.

Last year 7 series CPU's were also great and now with the 765G we have a great upper midrange processor.

size, weight and battery life are coming more and more important to me, rumors are that Google is finally going to anounce their Pixel 4a upcoming week so i'm exited how it will be compared to OPN.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yeah that's senseless to discuss with them. If you don't like the phone, just don't buy it and stop crying like a child. But they never understand that. That's like if you don't like Audi and go to Audi centre and tell them you don't like their car.:confused:
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] reef2009:
OW PLEASE CLOSE THIS TOPIC.

This phone is more that oke. For me the best phone for just 400€!

I use it for one week now and can't complain about is.

And yes it's no flagship. But do you care for 400?

Grow up and be positive.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] DeblaGaming:
Just because YOU think that it was "overhyped", doesnt mean that its a flop. Not everyone needs or even wants a top of the line CPU. Mobile Gaymers will buy those 865 devices. Just buy those devices instead of whining about it in the forums. No one is forcing you to buy the OnePlus Nord ffs. The 765G is basically a 845 but with 5G. Oh also, The X50 Pro costs 600€ in Germany, which is 200€ extra just for a 865 and worse Software Support.

PS: The world doesn't revolve around you.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] flash713:
I read yesterday that the Nord won't be coming to the USA because it does not have the LTE bands but that the USA will get something very similar and cheaper. I wouldn't comment this unless I'd heard it from a legit source. Now I'm actually excited to see what OnePlus sends us people in the USA. I hope it won't be months from now...
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Most likely a 600 series, lol
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] flash713:
Well if it's less than spec wise what the Nord is I'll definitely pass on it. I believe I'm going to wait a few more months and just get the 8 pro. I figured the Nord would have the connectivity for TMobile network. Hell I left CDMA about six years ago because of the development. Been with Metro ever since. I didn't look myself at the exact bands and all that the Nord has I just read that it's not coming to the USA and didn't have right hardware. I'm going to look now and read up on the specs and see. Most international devices work on Tmo. I have a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and used it for about 8 months and it worked. Going to scope it out for myself now.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
This is a nicely put together site for band information
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
This is where it's time to drop new OnePlus phones for real

https://9to5google-com.cdn.ampproje...-with-facebook-services-that-cant-be-removed/
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] naman1208:
It's not a flop but it's also not the best at this price, specs are good for me, bottom 2 cameras are s**t, btw I was thinking to buy because I think Nord will have a great custom rom/kernel support so what do you guys think?
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Pollie81:
I also believe the community will be good for the Nord, but that's my personal feeling..

Just curious btw, what's a better device at this price according to you?
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] naman1208:
If you want the best specs at this price then I think realme X2 will be a great choice.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Pollie81:
If you're taking about the pro version then yes but the normal x2 doesn't match up with the Nord.

And specs don't tell the whole story, i would choose oneplus without a doubt over realme because of software. But that's a personal taste.

ColorOS isn't on par with Oxygen OS, not even close.

I would even prefer Miui12 over ColorOS.
[OnePlus Nord Guides, News, & Discussion] Causical:
Damn y'all may want to hold out after all