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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Windza:
Well I think it's been established that the hardware is definitely different but before I sell/return my DIAM100 I would really like to confirm absolutely that it will never connect to NextG... some ppl here may feel that they've done this - but as per my previous post, clarity is easily lost with a few short words.

So I ask kindly for some confirmation - is the hardware installed in the DIAM100

definitely

not

ever

capable of connecting to Telstra's NextG network ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] frozenwaffles:
ring htc and ask...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] frozenwaffles:
either way gents (and ladies if there are any) where is the telstra rom?!?!? i saw posts a week ago saying 'tomorrow'...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Well, thanks to walshieau's confirmation I flashed my DIAM130 with HardSPL 1.34 and it works fine...

Although I've just noticed that there is LCD 'cloudyness' and miscolouration right where my on screen keyboard enable button is... damn i'm pissed. You can make it out on a full white screen. Yellowish colour.

Seems I'll need to downgrade it and flash the old SPL back and return it under warranty.

So I need that Telstra ROM too :P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] MrCalico:
Oh Mann, this would be awesome if this cat is finally out of the bag! Can't wait to know if this is 'The Radio' for US AT&T 3G and 3.5G... It is the only thing I miss about my old Kaiser.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wwcheung:
Even I am waiting for the Telstra Rom myself .... walshieau, do you have an update? I need to flash it back to the original rom!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] walshieau:
then try HardSPL 1.93 that fixes the screen issues.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Yeah I don't think it matches this problem. I'm pretty sure it will be a manufacturing defect, possibly pressure on the bottom of the screen.

It is visible on the alignment screen.

See attached file:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] logger:
HTC Touch Diamond ROM code (For Telstra Network customers) - version 1.31.710.13 is now available at HTC AU :D Package is 99mb which is a lot bigger than other ones around here!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] naydonov:
Hi Mate

I have very similar spots on mine on the left side close to the bottom.

But mine is just a loan demo unit from Fonezone, so I am not too worried.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Vector-SS:
I'm also facing the same damn problem with the screen. Mine, out of the box, was like that. And from what I can see they all appear to be in the same places. Definitely not a ROM problem.

Here is a pic:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/burns959/SPM_A0027.jpg

I have contacted HTC and waiting for a response.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tez82:
Hrmmm I have the same thing with my phone....

How is everyone going with their battery life, I am only getting about 8 hrs with very minimal use.... Only 30 mins of calls and no wifi, bluetooth, data etc. I have a funny thing something might be wrong. I will try this latest ROM and see if this makes a difference, otherwise I'll send it of to HTC

Tez
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] frozenwaffles:
can someone please download that elstra rom and sign it for hard spl please...cheers
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Tez, give it a few days for the battery to charge/discharge etc. There are others reporting that the battery has improved over time.

I'm in the same boat but ive only had the phone for 24hrs so it's too early to call. Besides its only on its first charge and I havn't made any calls.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mike-:
Anyone in USA or Canada to test the Telstra rom and see if it work with 3G? HOPE SO!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
I think it's been established that UMTS 850MHz support is NOT provided by any ROM or Radio update - it is hardware dependant.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daraj:
We need someone to post a link for the ROM so we can test it here on US.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ac_jai:
So just to clarify,

I do have one of the new Telstra Branded Diamonds that work on the 850mhz band.

I have a question though, Will I be able to configure it to work on other networks other then Telstra and still retain the fast 3G internet usage?

Or is this unit ONLY for Telstra network?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daraj:
If its sim locked to Telstra then u can only use it on Telstra. In other words if you bought it from telstra then yes only on telstra. Now you can always SIM unlock the phone inorder to use it on other netrworks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ac_jai:
ahhh im aware of that daraj,

but my unit is unlocked. infact i dont even have a telstra sim card, and I am using a Virgin sim in there at the moment, and cant seem to get the internet to work even when i copy exactly the same settings from my samsung i780 wm6 device.

So I was wondering whether the Telstra Branded Diamond will only work on Telstra's networks or is it possible to configure it to other 3G networks?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] SecureGSM:
To my best knowledge, 850Mhz 3G is exclusively available from Telstra in Australia.

Therefore, unless there are "fallback" 3g bands (2100Mhz) are also made available, there is no chance for Telstra Diamond phone to be compatible with 3G networks other than NextG.

Please confirm with Telstra Diamond owners that the phone is 3G 2100Mhz aware. I hope it hlps.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Please check your phone settings (Settings -> Phone -> Band) and ensure that UMTS 2100 is one of your options.

Then you should pick up Vodaphone's 3G networks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] walshieau:
Ok, this is my final post in this pointless thread as it seems people CANNOT read.

There are 3 3G Network Frequencies in AUS

850 MHz (NextG) - DIAM130

900 MHz Optus - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300

2100 MHz Optus, Vodafone, Three, Telstra(use Three's) - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300, DIAM130

ALL Diamonds have the 2100MHz frequency!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Here here. I can't believe people are holding onto this false sense that their imported models will work on UMTS 850.

I wouldn't call this thread pointless, only the questions about UMTS 850MHz support! :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wfhowell:
850

my diamond works on 850 band with att but it doesnt give me 3g..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mike-:
Did you have a chance to test the Telstra rom?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wfhowell:
no i havent tried it yet....everyone says to get 3g you have to have a hardware specific phone. i wont try until i get more proof it will work with my phone.

i am very happy right now with my TD.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daren1:
Wasn't that the prevailing opinion about 850 mhz gsm a month ago? Until radio v.05 came out, HTC themselves said 850 mhz was impossible, due to technical reasons. Lo and behold....I now can use the 850 mhz band. 3g on 850 might be a longshot....ok...a VERY long longshot if what is being said here is true, but you never know? :cool:

DT
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
Can anyone confirm that if I install a cooked ROM such as duttythroy's that I will retain full NextG HSDPA functionality? Is it hardware based that the Diamond is allowed to connect to 850mhz? Or will software affect this aswell?

Cheers,

Byron.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] walshieau:
IT IS HARDWARE BASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nbos04:
Not to "upset" anyone

Like the Diamond, the Touch Pro will have the same issue. The European/Asian version does not have the 850 Band for 3G. Apparently the American version will :confused: (can this be confirmed)?

Also, it is unlikely that Telstra will release a "branded" (and I use the term loosely) Touch Pro as the general market in Australia leads more towards phones like the Diamond and similar genre (ie, more style than work - though don't get me wrong, I think the Diamond can be used for work, but I would not).

There is discussion with respect to the US AT&T ROM being flashed onto a European TP to see if it can access the 850 band, but once again, there may be hardware differences (after all, HTC is dealing with a larger market in this case). Still this is all up in the air as the TP is still to come out.

Either way, it looks like I will be upgrading my old phone (original Zinc) to a TyTNII, as I really want NextG because there is no normal 3G where I am:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ResLo:
I've just registered and the version available on the site is...

HTC Touch Diamond ROM code (For Telstra Network customers) - version 1.38.841.5.

This is the ROM that is shipped with all Telstra Diamonds. At least I can now Flash other ROMS and always come back to the Telstra ROM if I wanted.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stpete111:
Ok, not to stray too far from the subject (Telstra for AUSTRALIA!!), but for the US folks (including me) who still have that ray of hope that a ROM or Radio will somehow magically activate the WCDMA 850 radio in the Diamond for 3G data, LET GO OF THE HOPE... THE HARDWARE IS NOT THERE.

I don't know how much more clear this can be made. And yes, I understand that everyone thought that 850 GSM wasn't there either, and then new radio software activated it, but that's ONLY GSM. THERE IS NO WCDMA 850 RADIO IN ANY DIAMOND EXCEPT THE DIAMOND 110, which should be released in the US within the next month (hopefully).

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1386

Deal with it US folks. Hang on another month or so, sell your current Diamond if you already have one, and buy the US Diamond.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] SecureGSM:
@stpepte111

there are 2 models with support for 850Mhz 3G bands:

DIAM110: UMTS: 850/1900 GSM: 850/1800/1900 (900)

DIAM130: UMTS: 850/2100 GSM: 900/1800/1900 (850)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stpete111:
SecureGSM, agreed, however it seems clear from this thread that the DIAM130 isn't actually connecting to the 850mhz 3G for folks on Telstra. Who knows.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] JoeBlogs:
My new telstra Diamond

I just got a telstra diamond , Says Diam130 (P3720 on the box and stickers)

On box:

HSDPA/WCDMA:

850/2100 MHz

up to 384 kbps up & 7.2 Mbps down

Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:

850/900/1800/1900

(Band frequency & data speed are operator dependent)

? So does it works with all the aussie major providers high speed networks ? (3g or whatever you call it)

Can some one confirm a working spl and rom that is compatable with TELSTRA diam130 as I wand a new rom :) and no telstra badging :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] edgie168:
Only if that carrier's 3G frequencies are 850/2100mhz.

AT&T's HSDPA frequencies are 850/1900mhz, for example...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Ah, I thought it was clear as day. YES IT DOES CONNECT TO UMTS/3G 850MHz
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Any ROM will work as long as it has the 850MHz UMTS option enabled in the phone settings (this is just a registry hack)

ROMs are your choice, Elite 3.0 and Dutty's latest both work well. Dutty's even has an older radio (.05) and still works on the 850MHz UMTS freq)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] JoeBlogs:
Tested simple telstra ROM update

This will be my first rom flash do i need to do a reg hack to get my new rom working ? Is there any info on flashing these new telstra DIAM130's out there, I'm sure there's alot of ppl willing to flash there's but would like a verified version that needs no registry hacking to get it working.

I presume this is the correct forum.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] daraj:
Do want to sell your phone? :D:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] frozenwaffles:
ok so heres an update on this issue that might throw a cat amoungst the pigeons...:

i have put spl 1.40 on my phone now. i have just put 1.93.405.1 on and now updated the radio to 1.00.25.6.

so before i would always get the 3TELSTRA network label on my phone and a 'H' symbol up to top. anything else would be a 3G or a E or even a G. i was very clearly on the joint venture network of '3' and telstra. so now with my new updates i have a 'H' symbol and also it says Telstra in the network label field...

so who cares to explain this???

i also checked in the phone options to see if it even knew the 3TELSTRA joint venture network was there and it was well aware of it, it just didnt choose to switch to it and i is always showing a H symbol....

hmmmm
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] peejay1981:
Did you dial *#*#364*#*# and check the network id when on H ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] esseff:
...or do you mean *#*#364#*#*
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] peejay1981:
I'm sure that was what I typed....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] esseff:
Nope, no cat and no pidgeons.

My Diamond came with 1.93.456.2 and 1.00.25.05 and has always shown Telstra as the connected network, never 3Telstra.

But I don't believe for a minute that I and getting the NextG band.

Dream on...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
Mine has always said '3G Telstra' - Same radio.

Cheers,

Byron.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
Has anyone been able to extract the orginal SPL yet?

Please if someone has please let me know, I need to do a warranty return.

Does the ROM on the HTC e-club have an SPL?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] omarnone:
Hey edgie168,do you have a HTC Diamond phone? i also live in the U.S. and want to buy one,but it's kind of pricey$ and not sure if it will ever get the 3G from my AT&T service?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wwcheung:
Does anyone know how to put the original soft SPL back in? I have installed the Unsigned-Hard-SPL-Diamond-OliNex, need to send back for service...

Can someone help please?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
x2

I'm returning mine for screen issue mentioned earlier in this thread.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tazmaniak:
New here, so forgive me! I have a statement and a question:

Hi all,

Firstly, I bought the Diamond Diam130 yesterday on a Telstra MRO. I'm from Tassie so I'm certain it was working on NextG as data speeds were quite fast, and we have no 3g network down here.

Secondly, battery life is bloody awful. I only got about four hours this morning, but admittedly wifi was on most of the time, and I was playing with it a fair bit. But still, it is unacceptable.

Hence I'd like to flash it with a different Rom. My first question was whether it'd be safe to change the rom, and still retain next-g functionality etc.

It seems that someone earlier stated it'd be safe, so I'll trust you! :)

Can someone please tell me where to find the most suitable and up-to-date rom for my particular phone?

Is it this one I found: NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMOND ROM V5.6?

Sorry, I'm a fairly well qualified IT tech but haven't dabbled much with PDA's, and worried I'll completely bork my shiny new phone! :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Vector-SS:
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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tez82:
I have had my Telstra HTC Diamond for the last couple of weeks, but just sent it back as the battery hasn't been lasting me longer than 8hrs with little use (1hr of calls) no Wifi nor bluetooth etc.

But thats interesting about software versions etc what you guys are getting with your handsets. I thought on the HTC support website for Australia will have the latest updates etc for Telstra etc...

Tez
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
Yes you can retain NextG functionality as it is hardware based on our Diamonds.

However the Telstra internet is pre-configured on the device - After a ROM change you may need to re-configure it. Can anyone confirm?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] edgie168:
Just wait for either the AT&T release or unbranded HTC [North American] release.

Until someone with an Australian Touch Diamond can confirm that they can hit our 3G network, I really, really wouldn't bother.

Having a phone like this without 3G is, IMO, silly.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
If this is true about the AT&T Network:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System

Then yes, the DIAM130/Telstra handset radio chip will work on any telephone carrier that supports UMTS 850MHz 3G OR UMTS 2100MHz 3G.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] edgie168:
Do you want to send me your phone so I can confirm this?

:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] RandomDude:
For those who wanted the ROM upgrade from the HTC e-club, I have uploaded this to megashare:

RUU_Diamond_Telstra_WWE_1.38.841.5_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.31.25.13_1.00.25.06_Ship.exe

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FXVHL2KD

In return someone please extract the SPL and make it non-signed and customRUU'd so I can flash my phone back :)

Thank you.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] stpete111:
AT&T will not be releasing a Diamond.

There will be an unbranded North American Diamond within the next month though.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] 2395:
Thanks

Thanks for your upload, it is very much appreciated, others have promised to provide this but you actually have........well done and again many thanks..

Question...is this rom a backward step against a 1.93 rom...has any one questioned the differances between Telsta 1.38 and general 1.93 roms its actions and extras if any.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tazmaniak:
Thank Dickenz, I ended up using Dutty's latest rom (12/08).

Fantastic. HEAPS faster, more reliable, better battery life, faster gps init, more programs, and more!

However, I have indeed lost the telstra internet thingo, and will have to work out how to configure it! :confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] edgie168:
Ah, I was always under the impression that the Diamond was coming to AT&T. No skin off my teeth.. I also have a T-Mo account, but doesn't look like it'll support the 1700mhz frequency.

Lame.

Definitely looking forward to the Raph though, but I gotta say: L26's V10TL rom breathes a lot of new life into my Kaiser. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
No worries mate. I'd suggest calling Telstra to get the settings. Unless someone here can help, however I think your quickest solution will be to make the call.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tazmaniak:
Reconfigure WAP after custom rom on Telstra

Got it sorted. Rough instructions below for others who have same problem, incl possible useful keywords for people searching... :)

Note that most of this is off the top of my head, but should be easy to follow if the phone is in front of you!

Instructions to reconfigure Telstra WAP for Diamond after Custom ROM.

The ROM I used was Dutty's, dated 12/08/08. So far I highly recommend it.

This ROM actually automatically setup most of the settings.

All that remained was to open Settings > Connections

There was a connection called Telstra Internet.

Tapped Edit My Proxy Server

Tick This network connects to the internet

Tick This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet

Tap Advanced

Set Http proxy to 10.1.1.181 port 80

Then changed Opera homepage to wap.telstra.com/wap/

If you haven't already got a connection equivalent to my Telstra Internet one, I think you just create a new modem connection.

Select modem - GPRS, 3g

The access point was called telstra.internet on mine, but may need to be telstra.wap

Username, Password and Domain can be left blank

Tap Advanced and make sure it is set for Server Assigned.

Go Finish and then set Proxy Server as above.

Hope that helps some people

Sources: This forum, the whirlpool forums, and the Telstra site:

configure.telstra.com.au/telstra/index.jsp

Note that the Telstra site does not list the Diamond, and I pinched the proxy setting off some other HTC device, but it worked fine
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] moisesz:
Telstra rom on Diam100

I've installed the Telstra ROM provided by RandonDude on my DIAM100. the results were the expected. No 3G or H connectivity. Only Edge and a good signal (better than radio .07).

Hope this helps.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
Ah well done mate! Thank you muchly, saved me the hassssssssle that is calling Telstra :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tigerhalsey:
Optus

Hey guys,

i brought the telstra HTC diamond from telstra on monday and the sales person told me it wasnt sim locked, so when i got home i have put my optus sim card in and turned it on. All the telstra stuff loaded up on the phone. Is there a way to remove all these telstra gear so it doesnt load up when i install the rom or am i better off getting the new rom SwiftBL. And if i do will optus still work or is this telstra diamond only work on the telstra network?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tazmaniak:
You're welcome. Least I could do since one of your posts helped me to decide to take the plunge and bin the factory rom!

Can't believe how much better it is now. It's gone from being a cool phone with a few serious issues :eek: , to being a bloody fantastic phone (maybe best consumer phone ever) :D , with a few minor issues (battery mainly).

I also installed the GSen software, which is excellent. Autorotation to landscape was one of the minor things which it really needed, and now has got!

Do you know of anything else I should modify or add to my device?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tazmaniak:
I'm still a bit of a n00b at this stuff (only had my phone a couple days), but I can definately recommend Dutty's latest rom. The phone should work on the Optus network fine I reckon. Note that it won't have NextG support (duh).

I'm tempted to try the other rom (swiftbl), but I'm that pleased with Dutty's I doubt I'll bother.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] frozenwaffles:
im gonna go to JB Hifi tomorrow night and pick up a telstra diamond. they will sell me one outright for around $800. my diamond is one ebay if anyone wants it. great condition...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-Touch-Di...yZ161651QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] 1-2-Hak:
Tesltra SPL 1.38

Hi Guys,

Managed to extract the spl from the Telstra DIAM130 using the intsructions from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=412447 thanks to POF

Not sure where I can upload it to if you need it - but it was the last restriction for me to upgrade to one of the other roms.

Can upload if someone tells me where otherwise its fairly easy task to extract it before you update. Only issue I had to do was set the the following key to allow the utility assess HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies

valuename '00001001' was set to dword:2, change it to dword:1

Anyhow I havent tested it but happy to upload it somewhere if you need it.

...now which rom to pick :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] huu2:
After rom change to 1.93 Asia_HK, switch on it will ask country and network, choose Australia and Telstra it connect then setup and work as usual, i go throug the config, it same as the original telstra the good thing is now we allow to edit/delete "Telstra Internet" connection... no more telstra branding on home screen, on start up and on menu. no "Bigpond" on browser. 3G & H still work... now no RSS would someone confirm that 1.93 Asia_HK dont have RSS??