yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well Enlarged Menu ain't in the ROM because it allready has an even more enlarged menu already.

Any additions and changes to the apps list from now on have to be Veto's buy the Incredible Beer Drinking Baby Sitting man.

I'm not dismissing it but I'm also not committing to it.

It's not a bad proposition but.

Here are a few of the cons.

Either runs as a service or a start up item = less speed and tiny bit of memory.

Double Start Menu replacement.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well i started to write part of the script to restore links in Program menu.

But then i said to myself "I need to watch that movie i just rented"

So here's the partial script to restore the LNK files in the start Menu.

It will be finished but maybe some people would like to have a go at it to make their own lay out to incorparate into a UC autorun Flash.

It's fairly straightforward you don't need to be a rocket scientist to make your own version.

Remove the .txt extension.

Place the script into the \Windows\StartUp\

Folder.

Restart the phone and presto.

Now let's WatchDayWatch

Oh and there's still an unnamed surprise.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
found 1 more thing bro.... seems im not goin to let u rest......

language problem in sim manager.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
JoOw NoOnSkI!!! mE iS bAcK iN tOwN!!! :)

Paris was great, completely broken by the trip home.... To much traffic jams and thunder storms and roadworks for one trip.....

But I want to flash your latest build..... Soooo.....

Tell me, what is the latest build, with the latest fixes so I can finally **** up my phone again :)

*smacks himself on the head

Nooo bad havoc..... this is a Noonski ROM, this doesn't **** up your phone....

It ENRICHES it! :D It is an ELFOLUTION!!! :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Hmm didn't i allready fix that in the last build ;)

I think it was

http://rapidshare.com/files/135485133/SurFacePubliCbeta.zip

My Sig Sucks didn't save correctly or something it should have SimManager as stated in earlier posts and non German MUI.

Ahhh le City Of Love

And i need my Favourite Flasher to test the little extra Function i'm going to test that you haven't seen cooked yet.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
The url in your sign points to 6.09.SP4.30, the link on the first page also.

The mirror by DGE ponts to 6.09.SP4.35 though. Flashing that build now!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yeah i think DGE's mirror is a mirror of

http://rapidshare.com/files/135485133/SurFacePubliCbeta.zip

I have changed my Sig now.

Did i mention i Succesfully ported the new diamond XIP with the help of Ababrekar's Tutorial and dumped xip.bin?

Need to Put te version op to first post, but first let's go home.

One thing i can talk about is the WMP resumer plug in.

I experienced a memory drain but the maker claims itg wasn't due to his Plug in.

But i never have memory drains running WMP and SRS WOW.

And i didn't even cook the plug in i installed it through Autorun as a cab file.

But maybe that's something for the development thread.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
*bouncing up and down* :D:D

I want the new XIP :) build a new version!! quick! :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well if it's allright you just Flashed the new XIP.

But i haven't seen anyone enable the Mort Buttons Homescreen plugin in to add an extra row of links to the Menu which is also a possibility.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Bäda:
hello Noonski,

do you know, when the beta status is acomplished?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
It isn't in Beta anymore it's in release canditate state so no mayor bugs just some links missing.

Skinning is the last step and in that time i will test some new stuff that might never make the rom.

Doing Some Stuff to the files ;)

So no telling yet but after the weekend we might have a better date in sight.

Just flashing a new build myself with Total Commander and Rar as modules instead of files.

Next Public release should have all links fixed in the start menu (links only in the start menu and not in the Windows folders have less influence on performance, there is a reason some apps have short names, so it takes less time to read them, and Windows folder always gets completely read ;))
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Bäda:
thanks. Than i`ll wait till next weekt, to give my touch an Elfolution ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Havoc you have to check the difference in start up speed in Total Commander in the public build compared to the build i'll be sending you.

Because maybe it's just me but........ ah euh it makes a difference.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Okej will check that this afternoon if I have some spare time (birthdays....)

But HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM..... :confused:

I don't know if this has been noticed before but the HTC album.... there is something seriously wrong there.... See the attached screenshots...

- Know issue I believe, the title in the folder selection screen is missing.

- Text/image in info screen (rotate to do what) missing

- NOT showing any video's..... won't detect them, even though the normal image/video viewer detects al 10 of them in my folder, htcalbum won't detect any of them.....

- not anything major, but check the params for htcalbum in the menu's, the video ones have a leading space at the params... (tried removing this space, but had no effect)

I'll see if I can reproduce this with the build you send me... for now I believe a reasonably high priority problem ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Aaah the help screen.

Yes i clean the help files and along with that the help graphics as they don't add to the actual working of the app.

You'll also not find any Help files in Opera. It's really about how important are the help files? and if your already Flashing patched SPL and **** ;), you probably not the kind to look at help files.

I can put the correct Album Gestures tip in the FAQ, or a Bram Smulders Veto might get these back in.

There's even a few pretty big files in the Album Help files, this is purely performance versus, actual need.

Aahh , you know what i mean. But at the moment let's call it an intentional bug.

It's the question "Do you need that help?" (i know you don't need it your just being thorough, but not everyone is that thorough)

The leading space should not make a difference, but you are right it's tidier.

Looking for solutions that might not exist, as i don't know how to integrate tGetFile /Patch album to use it.

(testing now) Nope can't fix it. So it's either have those blocks up there or remove the browse to folder or ask schen for help.

Album not detecting video's is an old issue i think. it only gets some file types, been looking for a hack of some sort.

Will also research but i can't guarantee as i can't find anything yet about it.

Did fix the CommManager button lay out.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Tested the total commander in boot in a normal folder and also boot in the windows folder (the heaviest) and both seemed A LOT faster....

9 seconds to 7 seconds (counted second in my head ;)) so big improvement!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
What help files are you talking about?

:-)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Even threw out that useless PegHelp.exe.

Koper what was that dialer skinning app again?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Not sure which one your after ?

A bit haywire at the moment.... Piranha is without inet till next Friday and I am moving at the moment ( heard of Zevenaar ? )... So next week we should get cracking...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Hehe I ****ed up your nice menu... well not the menu, but the long press hardware buttons. :rolleyes:

I was tweaking a bit with Schaps Advanced Config and now long press normal functionality has returned. How do I return the new long press functionality to the ROM. :confused:

This maybe a very useful thing to document as this will probably happen to a lot of users tweaking around a bit. Best way would be not to have to change registry directly btw.... :p

Could be that I am overlooking something completely.... In that case you can hit me on the back of the head! ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well i have now fully restored the Start menu links using The Clean MortScript method but i still need to make the .lnk files for all the submenu's so they can be easily switched around or replaced.

So eventually the script in administrative tools to change the long press buttons should be the way to go to change these.

But just making a link named Long_End/Power/Send.lnk

With

98#"\Windows\Submenus\Power.mbi"

Or any of the other menu .mbi files should do the trick.

Oh and if anyone finds the Contacts menu switching to RandomAccess.exe "Bug" i allready fixed that. (damn right softkey)(have a very small script that restores it at every start up)

Oh i fiound the dialer Skinn app it was called Tdial.exe
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Thanx, i restored the functionality by creating some shortcuts (oh i love total commander).

I believe for best usability (you know i'm a fan of this), the shortcuts should not be present in the Windows folder, but a subfolder as the settings program creates new shortcuts in the Windows folder when changing them, so more mess in there.

bah i hate mess (to organised in life, disorganised in mind ;))

Still not have the keyboard (qwerty) settings and T9 working correctly, in dutch of english... but havent tried changing the total regional setting of WM.

And btw what happend to the +1 amsterdam timezone???????

Enough ****ing around for today, going to bed now
[Touch GSM ROM Development] silv3r4sh:
Incredible ROM

Hi Noonski,

First I'd like to say this ROM is really an 'elfolution' in the user interface. I'm really glad to be able to use the same ROM as the great Noonski! I've flashed my Touch with this rom, and I want to switch to this ROM (instead of PDAViet), but there are a couple of issues, I'm hoping you can figure out for me..

1) I use Palringo chat client and quite a few times, the program will shut itself down, even though I have set it as an exclusive application in Task Manager, i have a feeling this might be a memory issue, what do you think?

2) In Opera, sometimes the Diamond keypad does not work properly, is there anyway to fix this?

Thanks so much for your help, if I end up using your final build I will definitely send a donation :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yeah Opera and keyboard issues, I will have to keep an eye on Phouki's Opera thread and see how these issues resolved. I have kept using an older version of the Opera 9 browser because it's been pretty stable, but an upgrade is something i will of course test out, but not planned in the current nearby planning.

Hm Palringo, haven't tried that one but it does seem to have file transfer i will play with that one.

Can you check if disabling Power/Data Saving Mode option changes this behaviour?

(yes already testing it and like it a lot better then fring Visually and in User experience, but still the shortcoming of not being able to send files even though you can snap a pic and send it)

And Fring has Skype support which Palringo again misses.

Haven't had Palringo Close itself yet (power settings off)

I have this eager plan to kick MSN out of rom, and am franticly trying to get a license distribution agreement with some of these multi chat clients.

Just out of niceness. Because the apps are Freeware.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Hey Noonski, this ROM is getting more complete with every build. You are really doing it again! ;)

I noticed some things:

- in the menu structure of settings the admin tools are displayed under network and not under system (where it is using the normal windows interface)

- some shortcuts in the startmenu don't have the correct icon, but I am sure this will be perfect in the final build ;)

- the contact button (right soft button) isn't set to the contacts menu jet, I used the softkey app and worked perfect.

And something else, I always "underclock" my device using the dynamic scaler to 100Mhz to save battery when it is idleing. Never seen this in any rom though, why is that?

my settings are:

low: 100

org: 201

max: 247 (sometime also 273)

boost: 299 (tomtom for example ;))

hmmm time for dinner :) bye
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cherryef:
Hey! First let me say that I am a total convert. I am no longer pining for the Diamond (for which the $reasonable release date seems now to be Oct. for us TMo users).

Sorry for not posting this before now, but the last couple of builds have a small prob. Click the BatteryStatus icon in Settings>System>Admin Tools and you get the SIPChange prog.

Heck of a lot of work you guys! Sorry I can't contrib more.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nl1010:
Very fast ROM !!

Hey Noonski, thanks for this VERY nice working ROM !!

I used ShadoW 2.1 TE before this one, and this Surface ROM is faster.

It works very good, real ELFOLUTION as you call this, I agree !

The only thing I have sometimes is that the new TouchFLO is not running good, and then only shows the first screen.

Can't wait for the final...... hopefully with some nice skins :D

Keep up the good work, this is a very unique ROM !!

Greez, Theo.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
The batterystatus sipchange thing has already been fixed in the latest (internal) release. But thanks for noticing :)

I also have noticed this, but more in the sense of a delay when opening the new menu. First screens loads oke, but scrolling to the right has a delay of a couple of seconds.

Doing the finger action several times is processed and stored afterwards, because after a period all these actions are processed and the screen starts scrolling and scrolling.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GrimD:
Love it :-)

Hi

The best ROM I've tried. I have just one problem so far, after creating a new MMS and hitting send it goes in to the out box and thats it. It just seems to stay in the outbox. Not some thing i use a lot but I do like to be able to.

D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
- in the menu structure of settings the admin tools are displayed under network and not under system (where it is using the normal windows interface)

Yup hadn't noticed that, No idea why that is, as that part of Mort Buttons should simply be mimicking the default lay out.

- some shortcuts in the startmenu don't have the correct icon, but I am sure this will be perfect in the final build

Yup I first just made the simple to exe shortcuts to find out which ones would be without the icon's

- the contact button (right soft button) isn't set to the contacts menu jet, I used the softkey app and worked perfect.

I posted a few above that i have allready fixed that one. This is because of this standard bug in Elf roms that when you change the 113 key in the registry. So sometimes after a restart it's gone. So the fix is a very small mort script that resets that registry key at every boot and it can also be run to fix it though the start up manager.

"Never seen this in any rom though, why is that?"

What do you mean?

I know that i use very save settings as a default for the scaler. Because that fact that when you go to low you can see some screen flicker in the refresh rate. To be on the safe side i set it to 188 whee this does not happen to safe the screen from dying prematurely.

Also has been fixed (in the build Havoc has)

Thank you very much, and then to imagine it's not even meant to be fast with so much stuff in it.

The secret lies in Virgin Cricket Blood.

Aah the skins.. I have started on what i call pre-skinning.

Breaking apart the graphics in easy to adjust Skinning files.

Damn i thought it was just me.

Maybe i need to return to the original MMS then instead of the newer version.(also never use this)

As for Menu lag, it's a lot more response now that it's been turned into Modules. (again internal Build)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Hmmm unfortunately I can confirm this problem. Also tried composing a mms and sending. Stays in outbox....

When using the 'Send/Receive" option from the menu the error "Error Synchronizing" appears....

Can anybody else confirm this? Maybe it is related to provider settings, or maybe something else?

Okej didn't know that screen refresh and cpu speed were related.... now that you mention it, my screen does flicker sometimes....

*setting batterystatus al little different now :) don't want my touch to die! I love it!!!! :D:p:cool:

[offtopic]

Gonna format my laptop and install vista (now xp), so hope this goes right and can use everything correctly...

[/offtopic]
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Run it through V-Lite first.

Sort of like cooking windows for your PC.

And at the very least take out defender and euh superfetch.

Yes i have a vew different versions of Vista laying around together with a very nice Windows XP 2005 SP3 with a default different skin and some crap thrown out ;)

As for MMS i did find a few settings in a place where they do not belong so this is my next test.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GrimD:
MMS problem

Hi

Dont know if it helps but I have manualy installed MMS version 5.0.31.16 from http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88057&d=1211734691. The MMS sends fine now though, it all goes through the SMS box (personaly I'm more then happy with it all being in the same box, how it was in the last ROM I used) and the MMS option on the new menu just takes you to the select an account screen (bit anouying).

If you come up with any thing you need testing I'd be happy to test it.

D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well one reason i don't use the 5.0 version is because i can't seperate the SMS and MMS account and that then screwed up the New Menu/Quicklist Options.

I had MMS 4 working thought.

It's the same Koper and Piranha use and the don't have the issue so i have hope.

Unless Remi knows how to make the new menu commands work with MMS 5.0 something. I'll switch.

But if you can post the cab for that 5.0 i can take a look at it's settings ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GrimD:
The link in my previos post http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88057&d=1211734691 is a direct link to the cab :-)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Sorry.

You have to see me as a mad scientist with valves and multiple tabs open while cooking i go through the threads.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GrimD:
No problem I'm the same excpept I've not realy got in to the whole cooking thing, plenty of other types of experements on the go :). I think your profile pic probably says it all, I think its great.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
Me is hearing my name and wakes up from a long Hibernation.

Nope sorry i'm really not the sientist i would like to be. Maybe in a later state.

And, now i'm awake again i will try and keep up. (just like i promised Peter).

But for now a whole lot of trying and learing to do for me, i have to start from square 1. Maybe i will sign in for the class of '08 / '09

Greetz.

BTW Noon,

This is something to keep an eye on, knowing you.... you already got it bookmarked http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=407900
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GrimD:
That looks sparkly
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
To be honoust i have been waiting for somone to bring this Smartphone standard XML homescreen to Pocket PC.

Maybe for the future def.

Did see it but not the new skins.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
ive finnally come back! had a nice vacation and yur allready in release canidate mode wow!! ive also worked on a little project of my own, a spb ms2.1 theme that the background changes as the weather changes similar to beyondinvisable and greatballs theme but im using a city theme instead of forests and stuff...

the new skins for the xml today screen are noice but way to busy for my standards and way to cartooney, noonski any concepts of what the skinning will look like??? im like a kid waiting to open his christmass presents!... i think it should be a professional skin nice and functional with not alot of clutter
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I have started on something that is basicly build on "for now" the T-Mobile Grey Background. I will use it as the base for all the Stuff i will start skinning. Eventually until the final design is ready all that needs to be done is replace the backdrop. But i but all this into the Development thread.

Also made new HTCHome tab icons. testing them out now.

I think i saw your city pics very nice :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
oh i was meaning to ask before i left how is flashing on vista different from xp?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Vista loses connection a lot of times through device Center.

So what i do is Mannually reset device into bootloader with USB unplugged.

Start up RUU then put in USB and continue RUU.

So i always flash from Bootloader.

Because sometimes when i do the regular way either Vista simply lost connection and cant find the device (i flash a lot) or it looses connection right after device resets into bootloader.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
thanks i just got a vista comp and i might downgrade allready but thank again flashing the new canidate now
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
What the one that will be up in 30 minutes over in the development thread with a password protection?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
hi Noonski bro would u pm me the password plz?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] niceguy001:
i did flash my eflin under vista with no problem with and without reseting to bootloader. everything went fine.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Okej gonna try the new internal nightly then :) wonder what bugs i can find :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dge:
Have fun with the release candidate 2.

Let's try the nightly beta <-- Argh, I haven't realise that this file is password protected.

So let's play even more with RC2
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
really awsome man......... faster, looks better than before...

keep it up Noonski!!

only one small issue i would like to point out- when i try to close the commmanager lite (windows default commmanager) by tapping X it automatically switches on wifi. this issue was there in the previous version also. though it dosnt matter coz we dont need that commmanager since we hav a fully functional htc commmanager.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yup again a sharp one there again.

First i was like What's he talking about.

But indeed using a Long Tap or Kill Complete it does close Wifi, as if it as actually runing the Wifi itself.

I'll remove The link then, just thought it would be fun to have it linked as i have never tested taking it out of the rom, and am not planning to the next weeks.

Just was on the phone today, around the 24th/25th I'm hoping to become a Proud Father of a Touch Diamond Pro Unbranded (NL nice to have NL MUI back ups and Rom)(to bad for the free unlock OliPromised to Mods ;)

No plans to cook And demolish, i'll actually just flash other people's roms and help out.

(while working on my secret weapon of mass deception)

Really have these double feelings with the Bring Out Your Rom Fast Thing Beat others to the punch thing.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abinbasu:
one more thing man...... after selecting & using the diamond qwerty keyboard the device gets quite slower sometimes & again becomes normal as soon as u change the sip to something else....

any solution?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Nope it preloads the graphics into memory, i have already reduced them as much as i can.

Just so you know what kind of crap some mods have to deal with.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2514597&posted=1#post2514597

DJSiva
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dge:
I move from Public to Private.

When he ask me zonetime, time and day, the month are written in Dutch.

In fact, the regional settings is Dutch.

In the Public, it's in english :)

I love this gray-theme

Why do you keep IE and Opera ? One isn't enough ?

With Word,Excel,PowerPoint why didn't you put Office OneNote Mobile?

this was 1st impression. Now let's play

--edit

Nice explication

BTW, I love what is new and scrary. Gimme nightly builds :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
noonski can you pm the password... jeeze you most be like pmed out lol everyone wants it lol