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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ultramag69:
I'd look at the prices on ebay... On Aussie ebay most Hermes sell for around $200Aud. This is my observation for about 2 months... Watch how they sell on ebay for a week then decide how to go about this.

Most people tend to bid in the last few hours and I've seen a Jasjam go from $55 to almost $300Aud in the course of 20 mins.

I don't know how it is on UK ebay but my advice is watch and learn.

Cheers...:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Marsbar:
Good advice.

I'd say as well (having sold a couple of phones on ebay) decent descriptions and pictures add more than you would expect to the price, so spend a bit of time writing some decent text and describing the functions in detail.

May as well watch http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200242138578 - it's a similarly replaced Vario II so should give you an idea of what it will go for, once it completes.

Good luck!

Geoff
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] scousemartin:
i only paid a £100 for mine 12 months ago and that was virtually new, a midwife had got it on contract and then found it far too complicated to use. £130+ to me is way off the mark. I have tried to buy a few on ebay and they generally sell from £70-£100 depending on the condition , accessories included etc.

PM me with a price as a friend wants one , if you dont want to use ebay. Or if you do pm me the link

EDIT:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200242138578 Someone is taking the piss on the bidding with that one its at a £155 with two days to go, i think someone is pulling his leg.

average price for one if these is about a £100

http://www.gumtree.com/london/69/26751569.html <---£100

http://www.gumtree.com/london/69/26751569.html <---£110

http://www.gumtree.com/london/25/25809225.html <---£100

http://www.gumtree.com/london/23/26155423.html <---£75
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ThinkTankInk:
Thanks for the suggestions,

The item linked by Marsbar is going for a really high price.

To be honest, I think I'll put it on there for £70 with full pictures of it up and working then let it run for 7 days.

I just sold a Samsung Tocco on there (free upgrade from Orange) for £200 on a buy it now. That was done within hours. I think the Tytn could fetch quite a bit more than I anticipated.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AllStars101:
*but is entering fastboot mode*. Title. I've heard that this isn't expected behaviour. All I did was flash a stock firmware belonging to a different country. What's worse is that odin on my pc doesnt even recognise my phone anymore. Please help me (I'm not rooted). And yes, it shows entering fastboot mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] west2cool:
please post a pic
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AllStars101:
[IMG="cant enter odin mode on sm-g985f... going to fastboot mode"]https://i.imgur.com/Cu10sGx.png[/IMG]

This is how it looks like when trying to go to download mode. I flashed the latest germany firmware and this is what it became. All fastboot commands work but unfortunately not able to get odin back. Please help.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] west2cool:
Have you tried using SAMtool to boot it into download mode? Are able to use adb commands.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AllStars101:
adb reboot bootloader takes me to fastboot. also SAMtool doesnt support 2020 flagships yet, unfortunately.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] west2cool:
I use samtool to boot my s20 plus into Download mode and it does work so try it.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AllStars101:
ok so i did try it. and it still goes to fastboot
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Wreck_8:
you can power the phone off, press and hold both volume up and volume down, then connect your Galaxy to a computer using a USB-C cable. After July Update mine was having the same problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] SirEnderman:
Just go to a Samsung repair center.

Take your phone to a Samsung repair center. They usually know how to fix these kind of problems, so this might be your safest bet.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AllStars101:
Omg thanks dude! Was thinking of taking it to the service center lol. Works fine now. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] YAOHER:
how did you go about solving the problem
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] altojd:
Wreck_8 said:

you can power the phone off, press and hold both volume up and volume down, then connect your Galaxy to a computer using a USB-C cable

That's the way to enter download mode
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
I started the thread, but did not make this build. Everything should work. Thank [MENTION=1829889]vache[/MENTION].
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
Quick update I did get TWRP to build successfully. Unfortunately it just sits on the boot logo but doesn't go back to fastboot, but that was just a quick see what happens build. I haven't added everything I need to yet. Will work on it more tonight, but progress is good so far. :)
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] dumdedumda:
[MENTION=5337314]CodyF86[/MENTION] thanks for taking the lead on porting TWRP to the G Power. The G Power appears to be the best "bang for the buck" phone on the market currently, and has been widely covered by the media so far. I expect that the Moto G Power sub will grow steadily in the upcoming months, leading to custom rom development for the G Power. Having TWRP ported would be a start to paving way for custom rom development.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
So another quick little update. I have the device repo basically where it should be...give or take heh. It's changed a bit from what is on my github, but it's pretty close. The only issue i'm having is that compiling it with the minimal manifest isn't going to work. It doesn't compile right. It compiles, but it doesn't copy things over correctly and/or at all depending on what it is.

My repo is pretty close to what the moto one power and the g8 power have, at least for their android 9 device tree, and I can get TWRP to boot, if I use the moto one power image and just dump the moto g power kernel into it.

So short version is i'm downloading the full manifest, basically all of Omni, which should hopefully sort it out. It's downloading right now.

EDIT:

Actually it helps to read the documentation I guess lol.

https://source.android.com/devices/bootloader/system-as-root#using-vendor-overlay

Will keep playing with it. :)
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] xT29c:
This is exciting! Thanks for your hard work.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] GoodOlDan:
Thank you for taking this on! Having TWRP recovery for "sofia" will really make this phone great!
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
I "should" have it working in a day or two...(or even tonight...) The Code Aurora repos have been helping greatly.

https://source.codeaurora.org/quic/la/platform/vendor/qcom/trinket/tree/BoardConfig.mk?h=LA.UM.8.11.r1-03800-NICOBAR.0
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] crisagler:
Quick question, is the Moto g power the same as Moto g8 power? If they get custom Rom they'll unified? From what I know, the g power is the us variant release of the g8 power, right?. Thx in advance
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
Been making changes and even trying to repack some files from our devices into chef from when I got chef to boot with a repacked kernel but the touch screen wouldnt work and it couldnt see any partitions really.

Part of the problem seems to be the build system. It's not populating the output image fully. It's not even putting the TWRP directory in there lol.....

Going to keep trying. Going to try to find a native android 10 device that has twrp working unless there isnt one yet. Also our device is a little different it actually puts certain things in /system where in android 9 they went into /vendor. Spent about 3-4 hours on it today, but not going to give up.

I think there is an issue with the OMNI build system though also.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rlrevell:
HI, I'd be willing to help with this, I'm a developer, I worked with [MENTION=2651082]tecknight[/MENTION] on TWRP for a phone called the Wiko Ride. We never quite got a working TWRP but learned quite a bit about AVB and such. I've already got my Sofia (US unlocked retail, running on Boost Mobile) rooted and could use a new challenge.

I too have been quite baffled by the Android build process at times - the docs that exist seem to assume a LOT of prior knowledge - the barrier to entry seems higher than ordinary Linux kernel hacking by quite a bit.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
Look at my github you can see the cluster ef of changes I made to at least get to a console. Ironically if you repack the kernel into the chef version of TWRP it boots to the GUI but the touch screen doesnt work.. Our device is weird although it is android 10 native but it has a /system folder. Also on android 10 you can just add things to the vendor partition without using the product partition as an overlay.

Unpack the stock recovery. I went back to the basics and am basically going to mirror the stock recovery then inject the twrp binary, but its weird, the omni build system isnt doing some things correctly it seems also.

This will be your greatest resource. Code Aurora has the answers. :)

https://source.codeaurora.org/quic/la

https://source.codeaurora.org/quic/la/platform/vendor/qcom/trinket/tree/?h=LA.UM.8.11.r1-03800-NICOBAR.0

https://github.com/codyf86/device_motorola_sofia

LA.UM.8.11.r1-03800-NICOBAR.0 is our current CAF version tree.

Actually I just started the repo over the commits were nasty. Everything important and pertinent is in the initial commit now.

Ive been compiling and hacking kernels for 10 years, building Android for probably the same and this switch to the new partition layout + TWRP has so far been the... I don't want to say hardest but longest thing i've tried to do without any forward movement.

Like I said I got farther just by repacking the our kernel into the moto chef kernel, but they have a system_root directory and we dont. We just have system.

Theyre lib64 goes in /vendor ours goes in /system.

unpack the stock recovery image to start also TWRP uses init.qcom.recovery.rc to do things on the init and init.rc hand off where as stock recovery version of that file is different.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
Actually I know partially why it wont boot. I have the paths in the init.recvoery.qcom.rc messed up, but also android.hardware.boot@1.0-service doesn't exist in our lib64/hw directories, but there is a android.hardware.boot@1.0-impl-wrapper.recovery.so file in the stock recovery so going to try that, plus were building bootctrl.trinket.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
Nm i found the -service binaries for the boot gatekeeper keymaster libraries etc. think I made some progress but I have to build it and make sure everything gets in the right spot. will keep on keeping on.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
The current code I have on my github will boot the stock recovery lol (the build system is being weird)....the build system isn't putting things in the right spot still. I was able to get TWRP to boot by rearranging some things manually, but it isn't pretty. So there is some progress, but the build system is part of the problem at this point at least for android 10. I'm still working on it.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dark98:
Hey, do you have a telegram account for easier conversing? I feel we might be able to help each other here?(I'm working on sofiar)
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
I can make one and ill dm you.

Here are my questions so far / some observations.

The init.rc that the twrp build system puts in the build is incorrect. It needs to be manually added...I think there is a flag for that actually, but I had to change it once it was built. (I was able to make it boot to the first screen by dropping in things in /sbin from https://github.com/TeamWin/android_device_motorola_chef)

The build system doesn't add the twrpres folder to the built image lol; or the twrp binaries to /sbin.

I literally had to copy them over from chef.

Also for example servicemanager and hardwaremanager aren't in the chef repo but they are in /sbin when you unpack the recovery image (chef), is the build system building them or putting them in from somewhere or are the repos not actually the final product and they had to hack the image a bit too.

I had ours added in then took it out when I couldnt find them in anyones device tree but they are there when you unpack all of the recovery images lol.

edit: It's actually putting most of the stuff (adbd) and symlinks in /system/bin including the recovery bin which is twrp, so let me readjust the init scripts.

our device is different it still has /system and not system_root.

another edit: Looking at android_bootable_recovery/crypto/ex4crypt I think im missing some libraries still.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dark98:
Okay, if/when you do message me on there please, I hardly check XDA other than when I'm updating a Rom I maintain? [MENTION=6516373]Dark998[/MENTION] is my username
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Q9Nap:
[MENTION=5337314]CodyF86[/MENTION]

Interested and surprised to see that twrp for native android 10 is in the works.

After reading Dees Troy's article in late 2019 regarding twrp on android 10, I had resigned myself to the notion that twrp is more or less dead for android 10+...

https://twrp.me/site/update/2019/10/23/twrp-and-android-10.html

Hope you're able to get it working!
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] CodyF86:
I was absolutely able to get it to boot with adb up but with no touch screen and it couldn't see any paritions, but ive adjusted the fstab file.

Also slightly embarassed to say I repo synced and forgot to drop twrp 10 back in, but i need a libinit with twrp 10 and it actually gave me a couple solutions to that accidentally doing that, accidentally building aosp recovery once time lol xD
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Q9Nap:
I was thinking that if twrp isn't possible, how difficult would it be to modify stock recovery to remove signature verification?

With stock recovery signature verification disabled, at least side loading would be possible. Thoughts?

Also, I'm willing to help test if needed :)
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Banana_sam:
So 3.4.0-0 works fine for you if you wanted to backup and recover? Has anyone else had the same luck using this twrp version?
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] aaanonymous:
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[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Leroy_Sparks:
OK. Just as an experiment I decided to try a twrp restore - with mixed results. Here is what I did and results:

I had been running Lineage 17 for the past month or so and decided to try another ROM. So I booted into TWRP-3.5.0-0-rav-sofia using fastboot boot comand (i.e. I have not FLASHED TWRP) and did a backup to my SD card. I then installed a different ROM via fastboot (OmniRom) and got it up and running. I, again, booted into twrp and backed it up. Then - I did a restore of the previous (Lineage 17) system. It seemed to go smoothly until after the restore twrp said it couldn't mount a couple of things. Finally, I rebooted and here's what happened - got the moto logo/orange warning screen a couple of times then a message that asked me to wipe data and I agreed. The phone did the data wipe and rebooted into Lineage (yay), but it was like a new install of Lineage (lost apps, data, microg, etc.).

I trying out CrDroid now and I may try to restore the OmniROM just for giggles. BTW before changing ROMS I backed up everything with OandBackupX.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] darko454:
Is it possible to fastboot boot TWRP 3.4.0.0 and flash TWRP 3.4.0.0.img in recovery mode
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Beetle84:
Why though?
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] darko454:
To install gapps zip?

Or can I just boot in to TWRP(without flashing or installing) to install gapps?

I'm currently on Android 10
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Beetle84:
You can just boot into twrp if you dont want it installed.

My above comment was referring to booting twrp to install it. Theres no need.

To boot twrp: fastboot boot twrp.img

To install: fastboot flash recovery twrp.img

fastboot flash recovery_b twrp.img
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] yknip:
I'm puzzled by this twrp.

With twrp 3.5 installed in both slots, and the crdroid4.6 ROM on slot A, I cannot dirty flash (wiped davlik, ART, not system) the crdroid7.7 zip. twrp seems to successfully flash the zip on (the default) slot B, however slot B then boots to fastboot. Slot A appears unchanged. What am I missing?

1. Must I wipe system on slot A or B?

2. Should I install the zip to slot A?

3. Must I first reboot to something other than system after flashing?
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Aceofzeroz:
From what I've learned recently about flashing roms in this twrp, you have to switch to slot b first and then reboot into twrp again and make sure the active slot is b. Then you can flash your rom to slot a and then switch back to slot a and then flash magisk and gapps if you want.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] PhoneFever:
I updated my device to the latest Android 11 (RPES31.Q4U-47-35-5)

Even with screen lock disabled, TWRP 3.4 asks for a password that I don't have, and both TWRP 3.4 and 3.5 can't access any of the files of the device.

Before updating to Android 11, TWRP 3.4 asked me for my pattern and everything worked fine

I think Motorola changed how device encryption works in 11.

XT2041-3 variant if this matters
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Quantumstate:
+1 (XT2041-4)
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Quantumstate:
In TWRP for pattern unlock I can press the 5x5 or 6x6 buttons... but 4x4 and 3x3 do not work. I remove the pattern in the phone, boot again into TWRP, hit Install and the only apparently correct button is File Manager. Using that it is just spastic. I try to hit 'storage' but it took me to the twrp subdir instead. So I need to go back... buuut, the back and up functions simply do not work.

TWRP for sofia is completely untrustworthy AFAIC -especially- for something as important as writing firmware.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] linhdt80:
Please send me TWRP's password ?
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] YeaBuddy102:
You don't need a password. Just press three Cancel button or whatever option you have there to dismiss the password prompt and you'll be on the TWRP main menu.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Thomas0430:
only working one i've found https://cloudhazy.com/download/motorola-moto-g8-power-xt2041-sofiar-twrp-recovery-3-5-0/ [Touch screen works!]
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] alexp1289:
So is everything working on this because I'm on Android 11 and I've never unlocked the bootloader or flashed a ROM on this phone. It is my only phone so I don't want to do it if it's not working properly. I have XT2041-4 Retail unlocked model.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] alexp1289:
Supposedly this one works?
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Beetle84:
Not supposedly, it works great
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] alexp1289:
Well I've been reading the thread and it seems like there's mixed responses so I'm hesitant to flash it.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] IronTechmonkey:
Don't take this as a dismissive suggestion to just go do research but I do strongly recommend that you read all the posts in this thread as well as the documentation and the links provided. I'm in the same situation as you, considering unlocking boot loader and routing my Moto Sofia. Here is what I've gleaned so far from digging into those resources and from recent (unpleasant) expediences with A/B devices.

Some of the instructions seem to indicate that TWRP can be flashed via fast boot but for some time I've had the understanding that this is not recommended on A/B devices such as this one. On other A/B devices I've flashed TWRP by booting to TWRP.img via ADB then installing the ZIP file from within the ADB booted TWRP, but for this device I don't see a ZIP version of TWRP which would be used for that method. Additionally if you dig into the notes in this thread (as it seems you have already done) there are people who report absence of touchscreen response which I myself as a have experienced on a different device. That particular symptom in my experience was not exclusively associated with a particular TWRP version. Just FYI.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] IronTechmonkey:
I share your hesitancy for reasons mentioned in my previous post and for the reasons you mentioned. I may be a bit out of date but in particular I'm wondering if there is still a need to flash a zip to copy partitions or to do it manually and whether or not the boot partition of the ROM will remain intact if the IMG file is flashed via fastboot. As in your case I am having trouble piecing it all together to paint a reassuring picture. That being said I'm delighted that @CodyF86 has put this thread together and is working on it and also glad to see a long time maintainer of Moto devices, vache, being a source of the material.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] alexp1289:
I'm no stranger to rooting and what not but I've got no experience with this phone so far. My last phone I modded was LG V20.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] IronTechmonkey:
Likewise, I run deep into flashing and ROM stuff. If your other phone was pre-A/B some things will definitely be different now and I'm sure there are differences between LG and Moto.
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] IronTechmonkey:
LOL, declarations that everything works or that it works great (or that nothing works, in the cases of providing support) are easy to dismiss when they stand alone but...

... You've provided a tidy answer to one of my questions. Now I can believe the statement that it works (although I'm still going to explore for any as yet unmentioned prerequisites). I'm planning to stay with stock and install Magisk for root so I should be able to just boot TWRP via ADB without having to install it...hmmm or do I even need to do that once the bootloader is unlocked? I'll poke around and find out.

Thanks!
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] alexp1289:
Yeah LG V20 only had one slot. Are there any guides for undoing a soft brick for this device? And if you look at this article it seems like TWRP 3.5.1 is going to have improvements to stop us from soft bricking on devices with A&B partitions.

TWRP 3.5.1 released with new features as team prepares for Android 11 support

TWRP 3.5.1 is out for supported devices with a number of under-the-hood improvements and bug fixes. Check it out!

www.xda-developers.com
[Moto G Power ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] IronTechmonkey:
I'm just beginning to dig though this stuff but have not seen any such guides (not that they don't exist). At this point I'm reading the Magisk documentation which, although more automated than in the past has some required additional manual steps. I've not sorted it all out yet and will probably need help to do so when I get there, but it would not surprise me if those additional steps address some of the issues I experienced in older versions on previous A/B device.