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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
I have used Dutty's 16th and 29th, and Hyperdragon III 14th and now am on 25th. I've never had a problem with activesync with my Exchange 2007 server. that Activesync error is in fact a "real error" and it equates to "An HTTP communication or protocol error occurred."

If I had to guess, there is a slight difference in your cellular data settings . Since you can't go back now, or probably don't want to, I'd ensure that the problem didn't happen with straight wifi with your cellular phone data shut off. It sounds more like a protocol routing problem over your phone data connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hvbelton:
I had the same problem but our one of our Exchange got me up and going. There is a problem with some of the newer ROMs that doesn't allow the assignment of the "Remote Wipe" function from Exchange. He put my mobile account into a policy group that did not implement that feature and everything went back to working. Microsoft provided the work around to him, and he's waiting on a patch so they can move me back to the other group that requires the remote wipe.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
Interesting. What radio ROM did you use on Dutty? I didn't have Hyperdragon with Exch2007 so I can't correlate. I did check the settings, in fact they were the same settings which worked flawlessly with 2003. I don't mind trying it out again, but I don't see what would have changed. Maybe some corrupt mailbox data?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
I used several radios, original ATT to several in 1.64, now with hyperdragon III 25th I'm using 1.58.25.17. I'd be 99% sure your issue doesn't have anything to do with a radio however... coming from a MCSE background with Exchange 5.5-2003 certification, not wireless expertise though :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
One other thing, with the advent of 6.1 is "enterrpise features" such as the autodiscovery of server when putting in your email address. This must be configured server side to work properly, both to your work network and the server facing the internet.

Agan, try connecting wifi at work and seeing if this works. Then try wifi at a bar or pub, then 3G. You may be more likely to narrow down an answer by trying these things, then having your Exchange Admin work with microsoft on the Exchange Server 2007 Activesync functionality, calling up for end user support is useless.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ReYCangri:
I'm currently using the 1.58.17.25 i think...it's looks something like that..not sure. It won't let me sync though..I've set up the server and everything but it still won't work. Gives me an error. "Cannot connect with current settings. To check your connection settings, select start, then settings, then Connections. Support code:85020006"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] petes69:
I'm in the same boat- running dutty's 4/29 rom with radio 1.64.08.21. Our company switched over to exchange 2007 this past weekend and I haven't been able to sync since (getting the same exact error: 0x85010013). Non of the settings on the device have changed and according to IT none of the setting on the server have changed either. Sync just doesn't work when trying to connect via USB/Wi-Fi/Edge/3G. Now the funny part- I'm able to access my E-mail account via pocket internet explorer using the same exact credentials, so the problem has to be with mobile outlook.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
petes, I take it your phone worked perfectly fine before the switch to 2007? No internet settings changes?

Also, can they provide you with a new account just to test? I'm going to load Dutty's 29th nocube w/1.65 radio (there are 6 variants of it) and test it here at work. Now that I know what ROM definitely works, I can test it during the day and have my contact back by the time I leave the office!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] petes69:
This is correct!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
I don't think so either, I've used various radio versions. I also now flashed Dutty's 29th on it again, and tried a test user account with nothing in it (freshly created). Still nothing.

My next step is making sure there is no remote wipe policy being enforced, as per hvbelton. This could be the invisible variable we're not seeing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sandbunny:
I tried a lot of roms with my exchange2k7 new and old. I had/have no problems with sync'n. But could it b of aggressive policy settings?

I have now RomeOS 3.0 (WM6.1) with 1.58.25.17 radio with no problems. I will play around with the mobile poicies of Exchange and will post my results. My guess is that it is in the server side..

(maybe you cant change the setting of the server due company policy, but atleast you want to know where its coming from.)

btw can you acces the logs of exchange server? In the application log of the server you can see what exactly the faillure is of the connection, atleast more info. If client acces logging is on or in verbose mode, you can see indepth information of the connection (good or wrong).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
thanks hvbelton

Error fixed!

Removing the policy as hvbelton suggested worked. My procedure:

1. Reflashed Dutty 4/29 on my phone, came with same radio ROM (1.65.14.06)

2. Installed certs

3. Attempted sync, failed.

4. Spoke to network admin, had him uncheck the policy-provision-or-nothing setting.

5. Hit sync again, succeeded.

Do you think it's in the registry? We could run a diff between a ROM that works, and one that doesn't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DeniaL:
Sorry I got into this thread late, that was what I was going to suggest. pmow, the problem is that Exchange 2007 is a totally different beast, from 2003. It's been totally reworked and because of that, little things can be an issue. Long story short, what your IT guy did on the policy provision setting should be fine. He could also just edit the policy so it's less strict, i'm sure.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
The problem is, remote wipe is the most basic of policies, I think even the iphone has it. They won't leave it disabled for long.

I don't blame 2007 because other 6.1 ROMs work just fine, I just think some cooks toggled a setting that affected this. I'm going to run a diff on the registry and see what I can come up with.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DeniaL:
Oh, they turned off the remote wipe feature? Hrmmm. I'm not sure why that's causing an issue. I have installed damn near every WM6.1 rom and I have been on Exchange 2007 since before 6.1. I would say its still something server side. Do they have SP1 installed on the Exchange server?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
And was this setting toggled on your server or not?

So far we know the error is related to enforcing policy in order to provision, because the only change made server-side was this one setting.

Yes, the 2007 server has SP1 installed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
Differences

Here are the original reg files and their diffs, I don't see where the hell it could be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
i have used four different roms - dutty's,laurentius, rottohammers, and akadonny - no problems syncing with exchange 2007 on the ppc tilt.

tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stickydonkey:
Having the same issue and its irritating!

I had noticed in one rom, can't remember which one, flashed SOOO many, that there was an "Outlook enhanced client". Could this issue be coming from "ported" roms, ie not native Kaiser roms? May not be relevant...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] muhittin:
You check Allow non-provisonable devices from AS policies, it works. See attached file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
As we have confirmed, it's an issue with certain ROMs and policy being pushed from the server. The issue here is that only certain ROMs have this problem.

Not all IT departments are willing to turn this off, as it creates an additional liability for many types of companies. Probably the worst off are publicly-traded companies. Certain entities are required by law to disclose lost data be it a laptop, phone, or backup tape.

Aside from disclosure, network security is compromised when you can't enforce a particular policy, as in Blackberrys. For example, there was a malicious app about a year ago that would take over your Blackberry and basically open a reverse telnet type attack from the Blackberry (which is usually inside the network). The only way to close the hole is to not allow 3rd party applications from being installed (by a policy). In this regard, Windows Mobile is pretty crude. There's a reason RIM still has a huge chunk of the corporate market...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwny:
Radio & Rom has no effect on Exchange Mail

Radio & Rom has no effect on Exchange Mail

I've flashed all the Roms ... From Wizard to Kaiser/TILT on both 2003 & 2007 Exchange and not one issue. Exchange doesn't care about ROM or Radio.

If your company use secured Email, You have to install the proper Certificate (PIK....it's been a while since I've had to deal with the mechanics)

Confirm your company settings
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwny:
Company's don't like to switch devices....only upgrade.

I did this for Honeywell for a year & a half and everyone used Blackberrys.

BES and WinExchange server are similiar but not the same. Policies are the same but the way devices are handled are different.

Check settings and the need for a Certificate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
I don't agree on the reliability aspect, but I do agree that many companies IT departments would view this as a setting that they wouldn't WANT to support only from the remote wipe aspect... as long as the company is handing out certs and allowing a username and password, and disabling the capability to use anything but SSL, this is not a security issue or a reliability issue as only activesync based products can use this functionality anyways. Devices should be set to lock themselves as a company policy if you use activesync.

It may be a moot point anyways as I do not allow unprovisionable devices on my servers (the box is unchecked) and it still works with the 6.1 ROMs I've used with my client's networks. Currently I'm on Hyperdragon, and I double checked the setting on my personal exchange server. So I would still view your assessment as unconfirmed.

Does your network have an ISA (Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server) in between your device and the Exchange Server?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstott1070:
Thank the lord its not just me. My company upgraded to exchange 2007 from 2003 a few weeks ago, since then i cant sync and my IT department wont help because its not a device they support.. (TYTN2) Great. . from reading the thread are we saying that its a simple case of unticking a check box as per Muhittin says above? If so how the hell can i get my IT dep to do this?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
Just wanted to make clear - unchecking OR checking the box still allows devices to work in my environment... it's something else. I'd point to the 6.1 enterprise features overexerting themselves... I'd say some implementations that people are seeing here are not configured completely correct.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
I have no issues with Exchange 2k7 on Win2k3 other than the ones I had described in this thread (which may be of use to some of you):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=393171
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
With Hyperdragon 25th or with Dutty? Supposedly it's only some ROMs, so maybe Hyperdragon is not one of them? I'd be willing to test...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
I've tested almost each ROM and none have issues (with Exchange) for me...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstott1070:
For the record im running Dutty's April 29th (Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700. Think its time for a change of Rom, that way i should be able to eliminate problems my end. I rather suspect its my IT team rather than anything else.

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
Exchange 2007 is a bit more of an animal to configure correctly than Exchange 2003 was, especially in environments where IT is condensing the Exchange invironment to one server where the server is acting as both the mailbox/db server and the hub transport server.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
I've never had that option checked with any ROMs that I've used.

That option is only for legacy devices that don't support application of policies, for example, a device that may be prior to WM5 or devices that sync that may not completely emulate activesyc and aren't wm based.

Have you been able to attach to your WAN through wifi and attempt a connection, or via a network PC and USB based activesync? I still think this is your first step to solving this problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
no problems here with wm6.1 and exchange 2007 using akadonnys rom.

maybe you should try various other roms until one does work. this is what i had to do because the only issue i had was that wm6.1 after sync the backlight dim would come on.. it was terrible.. now, no problems..

not too sure why this was a problem but many chefs don't test for this.

tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
As mentioned it works fine for all ROMs I've been using, and I have tested almost every ROM - I'm quite sure it's an Exchange 2k7 configuration issue...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Shammyh:
while, i'm not completely sure one way or another here, i think this problem might actually have something to do with the radio. i'm running a completely different device (Samsung i607) but I had problems using some of the new advanced features of Exchange 2007 with a 6.1 rom and a non-matching radio. either that or it would seem that the chefs are inadvertently removing some feature that winmo uses when it enforces certain policies (as dictated by the exchange mobile device policy). but since i doubt there's any documentation for how msft does remote device wiping, good luck finding what little function is missing. i know everyone is all "it can't be the radio" and perhaps this is just because i dont understand the whole eboot/radio/os deal, but seems like it could be related.

it's interesting that only mobile device wiping seems to be causing the problem here, if someone has a tilt and the time, they are welcome to pm me, and i can setup some test account on my non-live exchange 2007 server.

i would also recommend people double check certificates, i once had a problem activesyncing over the air, and i only realized many hours later that i had just stupidly installed the wrong certificate on my device.

hope that helps someone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
I've used several radio's too, but definately not all - that sounds more logical to me than the specific ROM. The radio's that worked for me are:

1.27.12.11

1.27.12.17

1.65.24.36

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
Yes, I tried Wifi right away. USB wasn't possible because the only machine that even has Activesync is not routable to th] outside exchange address. I've tried different radios, different ROMs, and couldn't figure it out until they switched off that setting.

With no other variables changing between syncs, I was able to test and make sure it is the policy requirement and certain roms.

So far, we have 3 people with exactly the same solution...Sparcher, since you didn't have a problem with any ROM but you didn't have the setting on, we can't exactly use that as a control. We're still waiting on the first person that this does work for (ROM+Setting).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
Hi all,

I am admin on our Exchange server and the only ActiveSync user. I can change it into anything you want and use any ROM you want - let me know what you want me to test exactly and I'll do it for you...

But as mentioned, each of the ROMs mentioned here have been on my phone one time or the other and none of them has ever given me any issues other than the problem described in the thread mentioned before.

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
Thanks nikagl! When the ROMs worked for you, did you have that setting in Exchange set? There's a picture of the page in an earlier post. The first step is turning this on and seeing if you can still sync. Then, simply install one of the roms mentioned. I've tested with Dutty twice now, and had the same exact results. Don't forget to clear storage if you get that far. I have a coworker who is interested in Exchange 2007 but he's on ROMeOS also and doesn't want this to happen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
Hi Pmow,

Can you provide the exact download for the ROM you want me to test with? In the "Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700)" thread I see several options, with several Radio's. Don't mind testing one of them, but would really want to try a ROM/RADIO combination that doesn't work for you to make sure it's the option, or not ;)

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
Hey Nika,

The one I used was 1.65 nocube but you should probably test with your current ROM first (since it's quick and easy).

http://rapidshare.com/files/1113506...5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2_1_65.14.06_No_CubeV2_.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
since you have been messing with the different roms and your office does not support this, you should flash back to the default rom you provider gave you. that way your office will support your device.

it's obvious that nothing is working and any other future issue's with flashed roms your company still will not support.

tvos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
:confused: I'm saying I've always had that box unchecked (not set), and yet it has always worked for any ROM that I've had. My understanding is that accoring to that post, checking the box is how sync is supposed to work on wm6.1 devices, so in my case that setting did not have bearing on sync working for wm6.1 devices.

If sync is now working for you as you say I guess it's a moot point and my understanding of this is not important...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
The only obvious thing is that there's an error message in certain situation. Our devices certainly work, so saying "nothing is working" is just inaccurate.

It's very important :) Sorry I wasn't crystal clear on how you tested, but now that it is....we have three people where unchecking this worked, and one person where it didn't matter. I think it's very important, there may just be more variables here we're not seeing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
I've unchecked the box - so far so good on my ROM (it still syncs) - going to hardreset while I'm in the car so more news soon...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stickydonkey:
Problem is not with normal syncing, but when you reply to a mail from your phone. The mail gets stuck in the Outbox on the phone, yet it is being sent, so Activesync keeps trying to send it, resulting in repeated messages being sent. When the mail gets stuck in the Outbox you get a blank screen indicating some message/confirmation being requested. An error in Activesync related to this says "timed out waiting for credentials" or something to that effect.

So, a normal sync with no reply to mails may not show the blank screen. Sometimes it does, but sometimes it doesn't. To replicate the issue we're having, reply to an e-mail (even if its from yourself, better for testing) and this WILL give you the blank screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
First test ROM

Test ROM: ROMeOS v4.1

Initial sync (calendar, contacts + mail): successful

Reply-test to other mailadres: successful

Reply-test to same account: successful

Allow non-provisionable devices: off

Reboot of Exchange after turning switch off: no

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
FYI - Batt < 50% - next tests (first with Dutty's ROM) tomorrow...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
Second Test ROM

Test ROM: Dutty's 1.65 Nocube ROM

Initial sync (calendar, contacts + mail): failed

Reply-test to other mailadres: untested

Reply-test to same account: untested

Allow non-provisionable devices: off

Reboot of Exchange after turning switch off: no
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
Third Test

Test ROM: Dutty's 1.65 Nocube ROM

Initial sync (calendar, contacts + mail): succesful

Reply-test to other mailadres: succesful

Reply-test to same account: succesful

Allow non-provisionable devices: on

Reboot of Exchange after turning switch off: no
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
So, I haven't been able to reproduce the "white page" issue, but I am sure the Dutty ROM does not work with the "allow non-provisionable device setting" set to off, and the ROMeOS ROM does work when it's off... turning the option on makes it work correctly for both ROMs...oh, and... reboot is not required when switching the option on/off ;)

Anything else you need testing for? See attached the error message ActiveSync generates on the Dutty ROM when the non-provisionable device setting is set to off...

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
Thanks!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
Your welcome!!! :) If anyone wants me to test a certain ROM, just let me know (it takes me about 30 minutes as all my ROMs are auto-installed by SASHIMI - the best there is when reinstalling ROMs a lot ;)).

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] petes69:
Nika,

How do you like Garmin's rom? I've been pretty happy with Dutty's 4/29, but with exchange 2007 not working, it's time to move on. Based on your test it seems like RomeOS might be another option for me- I'm just looking for a recommendation I guess.

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nikagl:
I like it a lot, but haven't tested yet whether turning off the switch makes it still sync. Will try one of these days and let you all know...

Regards,

Nika.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmow:
I tested his DK2 and wasn't successful...unfortunately. I didn't really like the ROM in any case, the Dutty just seemed cleaner yet with apps that actually made sense.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jstott1070:
Great work with the testing, this has led me to the fact that my problem is probably a certificate one or some other exchange setting and not the switch. I flashed to ROMeOS v4.1 but still no sync. So next task is to sweet talk IT dept to supporting my device. (dont hold your breath). .

Given i can't sync with exchange i have resorted to using Emoze which funnly enough can sync with exactly the same settings so there you go. Not ideal but does emails, contacts, tasks and calander which is certainly better than nothing at all.

www.emoze.com

:)