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[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
As far as the Games on HDD goes, if your 360 is modded you can already do that.

A majority of games for PS3 write large amounts of Data when you first load the game to the HDD giving it much faster access

ONLY DOWNFALL OF PS3 - IT WILL NEVER BE MODDED!!!! Many have tried, none have succeeded. Sony seems to have learned from the PSP
[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
And one other thing not really mention in these posts

Blu-Ray discs right now have the capacity to hold 50GB, with potential for almost twice as much, way more then 360's 8.5 GB Dual-Layer DVD's
[Off-topic] Kraize:
Dude you should check out Ben Heck and get a PS3 or Xbox 360 Laptop. :D lol. Sorry random. But his mods are amazing.
[Off-topic] Knightro:
I'm also get caught choosing between the 2 consoles. Gaming for my kids and video watching for me. Which is a better console for playing video files like DivX, AVI, MKV, ISO etc.? I have a Popcorn hour on my HT Room downloading videos in torrents. And I don't want to plug/unplug it for Living Room use, so I just need a console that could access video files from Popcorn hour. Which do you think is better on doing that, PS3 or XBOX?
[Off-topic] piztol44pete:
ps3

this should not even be debated, PS3 is soooooooo much better the only issue that i think would make someone choose an Xbox 360 would be the $$ but if you can afford a ps3 then i don't know why this would even be a debate. i don't think there is one pro that an Xbox would have over the ps3 and not only that , i think all my friends that have an Xbox have had to send it out to get fix at one point or another. also get the 60gb if you can still find it.
[Off-topic] gman8966:
-The 360 I believe is the better bargain.

-The power supply for me is not a big deal, you hook it up and don't worry about it.

-The movie support again not a big deal, but then again, in the future when the HD movies become more widespread, it may be a good thing to have.

-Wireless, yeah can't believe MS didn't build that in, I mean even the DS has wireless built in and its almost the same price as the MS wireless module for the 360.

-You get what you pay for with online gaming. Enough said.

-MS may have skimped out with cheap parts for the first 360's, but their good warranty helps. I'm on my 3rd 360 already. At least they are giving back.

-I have never had a problem with noise, when you are gaming, you don't even hear it.

-Never even thought of having bluetooth, what would you need it for? I guess maybe a headset?

I went with the 360 for the games, big fan of halo and project gotham racing. I think they both are good consoles. Whichever has the games you want, get that one. Don't get a wii, you will play it for a while, then be done with it.
[Off-topic] Knightro:
Thanks benmyers2941. Yes Popcorn Hour is a server (SMB, NFS, FTP). How's PS3 compatibility with Video File formats like DivX, MPEG and others?
[Off-topic] mikeeey:
PS3 FTW.

better graphics, way faster processor, more features, able to be hacked/modified (they allow you to install and change other Operating systems for god's sake lol). Free internet/online play.

The 360 more gamers use, it's gaming only i guess. While i dont see that as an advantage, It's kind of like how when someone says a PC is better than Mac and best at everything, their response is "well it's best for Media and internet".. well.. yeah, cuz that's all it can really do, but PC is still better at it.

I really like my PS3!
[Off-topic] GWelker62:
The $$ is what makes me question buying the XBox over a PS3. Some of the negatives I outlined make the PS3 a less expensive purchase. Buying a wireless adaptor alone (if you go with the XBox brand) will put most of the XBox packages at or above the PS3 price.
[Off-topic] darren shan:
its a month that i bought 360 its best
[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
They're no longer making HD DVD's. Blu-Ray has taken over that market, so for HD Movies PS3 is clearly the better choice.

In about 2 years Blu-Ray will be the standard, expecially when Samsung releases its bargain HD TV's Q2 next year. There going to have 1080p support and cost less then $500.

But it always better to invest in a good HDTV like Sony or Pioneer Elite.
[Off-topic] rumble291:
Xbox 360, Just cause it has problems with the RROD doesnt make it a bad console. The 360 you can firmware flash and play backups where as the PS3 if you want to do that the disks are like £20 each. I dont like the way everyone says the PS3 is more powerful when it isnt, i looked at a review on the performance and the 360 is more powerful at processing where as the PS3 has better graphics but the way the processor works no game developer uses the full potential of it. The PS3 is also alot more expensive that the 360. Depends if you want Blu-Ray though tbh its just a con to get more money it looks a bit better but you wouldnt tell the difference really if you watched a film on DVD then watched it on Blu-Ray maybe a bit more sharper.
[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
You obviously have not watched a blu-ray movie in 1080p on any HDTV, the quality is 1000x better

Make it a Sony Bravia with Motionflow and the Quality is even better, almost life-like

Also, You can't flash/mod the PS3 so it's not like you need to spend money on Blank Blu-Rays anyway

Developers have been leaning more towards making games exclusivly for PS3 because you can't Mod it, and thats mean sthe games cannot be pirated

Plus, developers are now starting to makes games that use a good amount of the processor such as Uncharted, Drake Fortune

And when you think about it, what would you rather have, a system that has already maxed out its capabilities, Or a system that still has enourmus potential to great amazing and real-life vivid games?

you decide...
[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
OWNED!!!!!
[Off-topic] mikeeey:
the old 360's were using overclocked memory at one point which were unstable and would give the Red Ring of Death. It would cook the memory, if that is what you are referring too. Also, no games currently out for the PS3 are using the processor to it's full potential, that's how powerful it is.
[Off-topic] Kraize:
True true. But I heard it has 6 processors o.o I'd rather buy the PS3 but it all goes back to saying what his friends have. If he's the loner PS3 owner, then that sucks and he can't play that much with his friends online.
[Off-topic] Black93300ZX:
You do pay $50 a year for Xbox Live, but trust me when I say it's an unreal gaming experience, especially compared to PS3's lackluster network play. Xbox 360 has all of the games right now, GranTurismo5 seems to be about the only game PS3 has over Microsoft. The capabilities are much better on the PS3, but without games and a solid online play to support it, that point is null.
[Off-topic] Black93300ZX:
You seem like you want desperately to know what you're talking about, but you don't. Ever build your own computer? The 2 most important parts of your system for gaming are graphics cards (GPU's) and processors (CPU's). The GPU handles textures, resolution, and gives the game a more refined look. The CPU handles mainly physics (where blood lands when it splatters, how characters fall, in explosions, where barrels get thrown, etc). Two very different things. And as for the processor and more powerful argument, you can overclock a 2.0ghz processor to 2.4ghz and it is now a "more powerful system" than a 2.2ghz processor not being overclocked. No, overclocking is not always dangerous when you have the cooling to support it. You can play a game like FEAR, and it sends your computer through a test to determine your max possible settings. If you had a great graphics card but ****ty processor, it would put your graphics settings to max but your computer settings to min, and vice versa. There's a lot more to process than graphics, but little boys don't know that. ;-)
[Off-topic] GWelker62:
I decided to deposit some money in his checking account and told him to go buy what he wanted. I think it was more fun for him to go pick out what he wanted and pay for it with his debit card, than open up a present. In the end, the fact his other friends have an Xbox and play on line was the deciding factor.

For me...... I "need" a new DVD Blu Ray player for my flat screen. A PS3 might just fill that need.

p.s.

Are there any porn movies in Blu Ray yet?

*GW ducks from the frying pan thrown by da wife*
[Off-topic] m.carroll:
You don't really want the power supply built in anyway. although shielded, it can still cause interference if placed too close to system components. Personally, i like the "brick" with the 360, because it allows the console itself to be a little bit smaller.

Ok, you got me there. Blu-Ray won, and PS3 made the smarter decision in offering it initially. Don't count out the possibility of Blu-Ray support in the future for the 360, though.

The wireless dilemma (here it goes): while convenient for simple access to your network, a wireless connection is not practical for playing high-bandwidth games and streaming media from another machine. You'll want to be plugged into a wall anyway if doing either of the two.

Yes, you pay for online gaming because it uses a centralized infrastructure, unlike that of the PS3. You get a cohesive, all-inclusive product that creates a seemless and immersive online experience. The old adage that "you get what you pay for" comes into play here. You get Microsoft-maintained servers for hosting your games, as well as the interface, as opposed to individual-developer servers on the PS3, which may result in a diverse range of network experiences (anywhere from absolutely horrible, to wonderful). On top of all that, you are connected with the world's largest online console gaming community: a strong network of respectful and challenging opponents. It's well worth it.

The RROD issue has become much less prevalent with the recent updates to the platform (internal hardware updates). I myself had it happen on an early-run 360, but have never had the problem again, and it was a breeze to replace. Don't let this hinder you.

I don't find the 360 noisy. Maybe it's just me, however I do sit next to a computer with too many fans to count. Plus, if you're sitting on the couch playing a game, you'll be too far away to hear it.

You don't need Bluetooth, the 360's proprietary 2.4GHz connection is much less prone to interference and pairing issues, while offering a quicker controller response time.

Above all, it's cheaper.

For those who argue a greater potential or greater graphics performance, let me remind you of this: regardless of perceived potential or capabilities, the developers report that it is far easier to unlock the potential of the 360 through programming. The same quality game on both consoles would take a vastly shorter time to develop on the 360, and thus you get higher quality games. Say what you will about numbers, but when the developers pick a side because it's easier to get their desired results, you cannot argue with the fact that better games will be produced.

I've always been partial to the way that the 360 renders graphics as compared to the PS3. The PS3's lighting and blending effects seem rough, synthetic, and mechanical, whereas the 360 produces smooth, lifelike figures with organic lighting and shading. For me, it seems that the 360 usually produces a more "lifelike" experience.

Hope this has helped you with your purchase!

(and no, i dont work for microsoft...)
[Off-topic] Kraize:
Lol. Yes. There is now. Before Sony was like We're not helping the adult film industry but there was obviously some problem in the blu-ray condom.

Kraize
[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
Actually, you can. Blu-Ray Disc Association has a very strong relationship with Sony and does not plan on marketing its product with a rival company...and either does microsoft - "Former HD DVD supporter Microsoft has stated that they are not currently pursuing a Blu-ray Disc drive for the Xbox 360, and will instead focus on their digital downloads from the Xbox Live Marketplace."

IDK what you're seeing but every game available looks better on PS3, with the excepting of Rainbow Six Vegas 1+2. If you do some research you'll see I'm not the only one that knows this.

i will admit one thing and that is that XBOX live is better then PSN, and is worth the money.

On every other topic HANDS ****ING DOWN PS3 takes it

this is coming from someone who has all 3 current systems (PS3, 360, Wii) and a very nice Dell XPS :)
[Off-topic] m.carroll:
i'm not saying it messes anything up by being inside, but i dont mind. I'd rather have a smaller (albiet minimally) console.

understandable, they made the wrong choice, and are limited by it (game sizes). Its unreasonable to say that they are "following sony", rather following the market. How many people do you think stuck around with betamax? oh, thats right they went to VHS.

you missed the point. its not necessary.

again, missing the point.

if you think i fixed it, then you really are an idiot. i'm talking internal hardware update across the board in all new models sold. IE: his son's new console will not be effected by the RROD overheating issue. PS: no expense at all. free replacement

only suckers purchase the intercooler. that nyko/madcatz/whatever piecoe of sh** is a fire hazard in and of itself.

sure, you can buy your own, but does your console come with one? yes its wired, but its tied to your wireless controller. you, my friend are one to bring up irrelevant issues. learn how to write a rebuttal that actually adresses the points that you are intending to refute.

hardly. i'm happy with my system, and you are with yours. i'm sure you feel big and bad for talking smack about a video game console over the internet to someone you cant see. congrats. take a chill.
[Off-topic] Kraize:
Wow. This is like the Linkin Park vs NIN on youtube video comments LOL.
[Off-topic] Fresh2Death:
ok now lets pretend that i missed the point, ok so u can feel good. but if anyone has read what this post is about, then im right on the head buddy. as for idiots, i dont think u have room to talk because even if u would rather pay for a system that needs a system replacement/fix or whatever that was had to be done and go through the hastle of sending it off or taking it somewhere.... then u, my friend, dont have ANY ROOM TO TALK because might i remind you... look how idiotic that sounded..... *whistles*

all u can do is make a post trying to defend everything that i pointed out because like stated b4, the ps3 is just simply better. but then people still go around trying to find teeny tiny ways to pretend the 360 is better subtracted all of its flaws. the funniest flaw to me was when u are playing a game then all of a sudden it freezes for a moment then..... BOOP* u are back at the 360 home screen again.... crash... on a video game console?? lmao. all ur doing is showing all of its flaws for me and then trying to explain how in some kind of way it could be helpful. it is not cheap cuz of the HD DVD (dis continued technology now) is/was like $199, the wireless headset is $59.99, to have a RECHARGABLE controller battery (gay) is like $19.99, the wifi peice is $99, to have an incooler is $19.99 so it looks like to me if u buy the un-equipped system... ur going to be in the hole (sorta like u m.carrol :) )

the xbox 360 doesnt even have a web browser. u can only put music media on it. the ps3 can do music, videos, movies, pictures! everything to do with media. i sure do hope alot of people out there have fun switching out those dead batteries quite often too (how inconvienient). oh yea, i almost forgot about this post too...

ummmm yea... what he said.... owned!
[Off-topic] m.carroll:
@Fresh2Death: thank you for reminding me why i dont usually post on off-topic forums. i'm not going to go into the finer points of debate, because you are not worth the breath *erm* fingerstrokes... continue living in ignorance, or defiance, or whatever you want to call it, but i hope for your sake that you can learn to have an open view on other's opinions. say what you want about either console, but i'm happy with mine, and you are happy with yours. in the end, it doesnt matter except that some fat executive got a chunk of change from both of us.

@GWelker62: good luck with your son's (and your) purchase(s). take everything said in this topic with a grain of salt.
[Off-topic] rumble291:
Your ****ing stupid mate. He owned the **** outta you he said it the way it is. Obv you dont have a clue about the 360 go look it up. The PS3 is a brick and has useless features like bluetooth totally pointless typical sony add stuff you dont need. Blu-Ray is **** anyways.
[Off-topic] Fresh2Death:
now how stupid do u sound. if blue ray is ****...... then what is adverage hd dvd...... or better yet.... adverage dvd. hmm... i guess they should had even put dvd into game systems at all then huh. ur the dumb one. get ur ass off the computer some time and go in ur local electronic store. look a tv with true motion on it, then look at blue ray on a true motion tv. then go back home, go inside of ur bedroom closet and own urself in there. nobody will miss u.
[Off-topic] Fresh2Death:
man now u know what... that made alot of sense. u are right on that. u like ur console, and obviously i like mine. true, true... and in the end... we arent the ones counting the dividends off of this anyways. i dont mean to sound like a true fan or anything of sony but i had alot of bad experiences. obviously u've had alot of good experiences and therefor have a different opinion on this topic. u stated ur opinion and i stated mine.... rather bluntly. i mean, all i was doing was talking **** tho bro. its kinda like sticks and stones sorta. i wasnt really trying to get underneath anyones skin but i do tend to be an asshole :)........ sometimes :D lol. good point tho -_-"

i feel u tho man. well i said what i had to say... so i guess im done for now. besides, his sons mind is already made and his mind already seems geared toward what he wants also. i think having 2 of the same consoles is pretty fun for playing games with each other online tho. both me and my bro used to own xbox 360's, and now we both own ps3's and we still have fun playing with and against each other in online games down the hall from one another lol. aight whats been said has been said and i guess the debate (or whatever happened here ;) ) is over for now.

GWelker62... the decision is urs bro.

latez~
[Off-topic] shanetheclassic:
Not only is this the most uninformative post I've ever seen, not a single word of it makes sense.

PS3 a brick? Hardly. Not only does it dominate in specs and overall performance, it has a far greater potential then 360 ever had. The technology used in the PS3 when released was ahead of its time, and now the times are catching up and it's future looks bright.

-Blu-Ray is taking over and will soon be the standard

-The processor has yet to be used to it's fullest potential

-Bluetooth not only runs the controllers, but wireless headsets as well. And not to mention bluetooth keyboards and mice for web browsing and other apps.

-Amazing browser that supports full Web-Page browsing including YouTube and many other plug-ins for a full internet experience.

-a 10x better looking 1080p output through HDMI

-Support for 2.5" 7200RPM SATA HDD's, I personally have a 320GB in mine :)

-The best controller ever designed

-and so on and so on

And Sony add stuff we dont need? At least they don't charge extra ofr everything extra. I recall Microsoft brilliant idea for the HD DVD drive add-on for $149 when it came out, and look how far that went lol. Also don't forget about the need for an intercooler to keep the hunk of **** cool and preventing RROD, but it just keeps coming back!! Controllers are rediculousy expensive too.

Now before you get all mad and lash back with another useless post, please remember that i gave the 360 some credit on a few things -

-XBOX Live is better then PSN and is worth the $50 a year. The overall experience does make PSN look pretty ****ty

-Gears of War

-Rainbow 6 vegas 1 and 2 look and play better, and i love those games :) but I still play them on PS3 :D

so there, I think I pretty much just OWNED the whole thread and no matter what anybody else says I've already answered the question -

OVERALL, SONY'S PLAYSTATION 3 IS BETTER THEN MICROSOFT'S XBOX 360.

Next in Line for PS3 Domination? Wii :p
[Off-topic] m.carroll:
i must say, i am very impressed. i appreciate the respect and maturity of our exchange. its good to see a wise gentleman around every once and a while, and this has proven to be quite an example of what's right in our internet culture today. here's hoping that other users can take something away from the evolution into level-headedness that we've displayed. take care, and keep on keepin on.
[Off-topic] Black93300ZX:
Read my first post in this thread, I agree 110%. But to argue and tell someone their point is not valid because "the system wouldn't be processing anything but graphics" is just a dumb statement. Dumb statements come from dumb people, and that's why I said what I said. At risk of being involved in a catfight, I'm going to make my exit from this thread now.
[Off-topic] Deano1964:
Just a couple of things extra things...

The PS3 basically has compatibility with everything.

I plug my digital camera, media cards, USB sticks....basically everything into my PS3 and it reads them.

Only the other day i decided to try to see if my Logitech Wireless Controller that i got for my pc worked on the PS3 and low and behold I inherited a new controller!

Something else i did the other day was use a program called Tvirsity on my pc. It streams anything from your pc over wireless. So turning on my wireless on my PS3 and connecting to my pc and I streamed all my videos from my PC to my PS3.

Also...

The PS3 uses a 2.5" Laptop HDD. So...any laptop HDD works with the PS3...so...i have a 60gb ps3 atm but with a lift of a cover and one screw later i can have the HDD size of my choice. In the PS3 manual they show you how easy and how to remove the HDD.

Just a final point...

LINUX can be installed to the PS3 and it is a worthwhile advantage in having it.
[Off-topic] Kraize:
Okay. Guys stop. This was a question. Stop flaming each other on which is better. We all have our opinions and likes and dislikes. Don't kill each other over which you think is better T.T To each his own. Now a mod PLEASE lock this topic.

btw.

NINTENDO Wii+MotionPlus FTW!!!
[Off-topic] Isaygarcia:
Again one of my short contributions :)

If you are a GAMER get a 360.

If you are a MULTIMEDIA FAN get a PS3.

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haha

is like comparing the TyTN II with the IPHONE...

you know that the iphone has better proccesor.. better graphics.. better sound.. but anyways is a ****.. because the TyTN II just does what it is meant to do and more ...

so..

if we need hardware we look for hardware.. if wee need an experience that will never get you bored.. so look for it!!

i have a 360 also i had a PS3..

i sold my PS3 because i could not find a game that just filled my gamer needings... just end a game and its over.. then you have a useless disc with a game that you already completed.. so.. you start to find some online action.. and you find out that there is no online action!!.. that made me go mad!!..

also...

xbox360 has the media center extender thing... so you feel it like your PC in your TV.. and the Universal media remote is great..

the controllers are perfect for gaming!! ( who needs "more tech" if you feel like a crap when playing a game? ), the 360 controllers fit perfectly well in your hands, and they have vibration (yes.. vibration).. and also you can connect things like a keyboard and headset.. that is really cool and guess what??.. YOU WILL USE THEM!! (not like the tilting **** on ps3 that tries to emulate the wii thing..)

so you decide...

PS3 or xbox 360...

but only you know what you are looking for... ( Halo 3, Gears of War, Metal Gear Solid 4, Darth Vader or Yoda on Soul Calibur 4)

If PS3 had the xbox live support and the xbox games and the msn compatibility and the arcade thing and a better controller.. i would buy it..

but it has'nt them.. and nothing that compares them..

so..

360 :)..

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but...

the Wii is soooo Sexy...

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