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[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
I want to make a photo comparison to check the differences of the 2 versions vs stock but sadly dont have enough time yet...

Anyone up to it ?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
Today I tested all the different gcam ports I could find for the Nord

Here are my two favorites:

Wichaya with detail config:

Good detail

Saturated colors

but night sight just sucks??

Great HDR+ Enhanced

Here is a HDR+ Enhanced picture from Wichaya:

Here is a night sight picture from Wichaya:

Arnova with
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] krugu:
The Arnova which version? 7.3 stable or last beta?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
For the Blue Tint go to Lib Patcher and change color to Auto
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
I'm pretty sure I use the stable one, but correct me if im wrong

This one: GCam_5.200604.2138build-7.3.021.apk

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Where??
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] krugu:
I'm using exactly same version and no blue or yellow issues. But I had that strange effects when I tried the last Arnova beta...
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
My bad, In advanced options, change the color filter option to AUTO
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
Can't find it there either:

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It's only when i use the HDR+ Enhanced option...
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] krugu:
Yes, when I tried the beta happened, but with the stable is going perfectly. Maybe some option.. but I don't know
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
I just tried the latest beta with your config, haha
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
But seriously why is night sight so bad on Wichaya?

Wichaya:

Arnova:
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
[MENTION=6724240]Jakob1502[/MENTION]

What profile are you using?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
This: Wic7.3-v2.8-nord-detail-timobsd.xml

But I get the same result with this: Wic7.3-v2.8-nord-default-quality.xml
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] cleancut80:
For me, night sight works just fine...
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
Which version and config do you use?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] cleancut80:
Wichaya's latest with Wic7.3-v2.8-nord-detail-timobsd.xml
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
That's weird...
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
Sorry for the late answer

Here it is, set color filter to Auto
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] mio&drag:
Will gcam get better now with Pixel 5 wide angle camera and other features?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] HM101:
Does anyone see any flickering/blurriness/smokiness on the viewfinder?

It happens both with no config and even with Wichaya's config loaded up. However, the distortion doesn't appear on the photo itself once taken.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
Yes the camera app when there is not enough light tends to pixelate everything (before shooting).

Same goes for arnova also
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Jakob1502:
Yeah i found it and it didn't fix the blue tint :(

Can you try to take a picture like mine, where you use HDR+ to lighten up the shadows?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] pretender17:
Hey Guys, its been a while since I used a oneplus phone and stopped following a while back. Am thinking of getting the Nord and was just wondering; does GCAM port for oneplus phones still have the 4mp resolution issue on selfie cameras? or was that overcome in newer phones / newer gcam builds?

Thanks
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] S4turno:
This wouldn't be a OnePlus device without dumb limitations or issues... :P

OnePlus doesn't allow apps to access the full resolution for the quad bayer* camera sensors, so we get the pixel binning resolution.

The main rear 48MP camera saves 12MP photos and the front 32MP sensor saves 8MP (same limitation as the 3T and 5/5T 16MP sensor). On "regular" sensors (eg: wide), we get the full resolution.

This is a decision from OnePlus, not a hardware limitation. I have an Asus Zenfone 6 which has the same 48MP Sony IMX586 sensor and I can take 48MP photos with GCam (a bit laggy, but it works).

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* Essentially, these new sensors with lots of mega pixels usually have more, but smaller pixels. Smaller pixels means worse performance in low light/indoors, so everyone uses "pixel binning" by default.

Each group of 4 pixels are used as 1 and 48MP becomes 12MP, 32MP -> 8MP, 64MP -> 16MP, 16MP -> 4MP, and so on. You can buy a Samsung phone with 108MP and it will be outputting 12MP photos by default (9 pixels used as 1).

I wouldn't call it a scam, but you can see why brands that focus on image quality (eg: Google Pixel, iPhone 11+) still use 12MP sensors.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] pretender17:
Thanks for such a detailed response.

See that's one of the reasons that is stopping me from getting Oneplus again and am thinking to pickup Pixel 5. I loved my OnePlus, but camera is important to me and I just got tired of playing with so many settings on Gcam mod and the profiles that I just gave up on it. Now am kinda a bit hopeful that the selfie atleast has moved up to 8mp from the 4mp and I understand the binning concept, but not sure if am ready to get into that mode again. Decisions decisions!
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
[MENTION=4487956]S4turno[/MENTION]

Any chance you had time to check the latest config files for wichaya?

Βtw, urnyx latest ver works great, for my taste the best one so far with nrg config
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] jsanket95:
In what ways is Arnova's version better?

Also, once the app crashes (like u described above), how can I reset it in the easiest possibly way?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Nevroze:
Gcam7.3.018_Greatness.Build2.2.apk

and

fury-v3-greatness-2-1-ultra-hdr.xml

Very good.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] exnokiafan:
Hey guys, is there any way to manually balance the white point during video recording?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] apatrahil:
I have issues with latest apk-s from Arnova and Greatness, I also tried the recommended .xml-s but still failed. Please see attached picture and notice the flakes prodused at the dark zones of the images.

latest well working copy I used is: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1148/
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
Try Urnyx 7.3

I am using it with nrg config
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bigbraveballs:
There is a problem I found, I am not sure if this is only happening on my device.

The Stock One plus cam app takes photos at 6000X8000 px resolution on main camera. However, When I checked the google camera, It takes photos at 3000X4000 which is like 50% of the size of the opn cam app.

I checked the settings but didnt see an option to change it to higher res. The image google cam takes good one phone but when looking at it from a desktop. it lacks resolution compared to the stock one.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
Both cam apps use 3kx4k because they make 12MP images

You are using your default cam app at 48MP that's why you see that number.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] rohanmallya:
This does not support the wide angle front camera, does it?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
All cameras work fine
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] bemymonkey:
Hi there, I've just received my Nord and went ahead and installed the latest OTA (10.5.9) and first of all installed GCam to test the image quality compared to my OP3T.

I'm a bit shocked - the Nord seems to have constantly on super-powerful noise reduction, leading to tons of smearing in the image at default settings. So far I've tested Urnyx05's latest versions (I've been using v2.2-fix on my OP3T for weeks now and it's been great) and the Wichaya version recommended in the OP of this thread. All show similar results. Below are the results for the latest Urnyx05 versions.

OP3T:

https://imgur.com/a/UmziuQI

Nord:

https://imgur.com/a/Fa6yNlJ

Is this normal? In general, the results from the Nord are noisier and more strongly smeared due to noise reduction - even when using the same GCam APK and identical libpatcher settings.

-edit- With the same APK, the Nord seems to pick a shutter speed that's twice as fast (1/33.3 vs. 1/17), so should be almost 1 stop worse in terms of noise (if the sensors were exactly the same - but the one in the Nord is bigger and newer and better!). The difference seems like much more than 1 stop though. :S

-edit2- Maybe the IMX586 just isn't for me. White balance is also way off, especially in normal HDR+ mode (HDR+ Enhanced and Night Sight are better, but still much too cool and green in warm white LED lighting).
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
If you don't like the noise reduction you should use a timo based profile, it's clearer.

I personally like the latest urnyx with nrg profile
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
I dont know about 3T but the difference between stock and GCam (especially in low light) for me is pretty damn big

These are taken in low light situation
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] sathya86online:
Got my Nord today. First impression: Even with the "best" settings and configs on the Nord, OnePlus 3T destroys Nord in every aspect. Absolutely undisputed truth. Note that OP3T costed almost same (3.5 years back) as what Nord costs today. That's a good comparison of rate of Inflation versus Tech.

As someone who was passionate with mobile photography on a budget, and almost never let down by the 3T, Nord feels like a disappointing downgrade. Yes, I was fully aware that Nord didn't have great cameras, but I thought 3 years of development and a better sensor would bring something to the table, at least with the main camera. But nope, not so far. Hoping future updates address these shabby implementations.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
I Cant judge that... never had 3T, but i don't find Nord cameras that bad, (i am certainly not blown away either), especially with Gcam... and my previous phone was a P20...
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] bemymonkey:
I'm sure the camera hardware on the Nord (main sensor at least) is actually better - it's just let down by the software or the implementation thereof. Somewhere between the sensor and the GCam viewfinder and final output, something's not quite properly optimized or plain wrong.

I'm back to living with the slowness and unreliable autofocus on the 3T, but decent picture quality with Urnyx05 Gcams for now....

And to be fair, even the Pixel 5 with the stock Google camera (so HDR+ only) was a slight (tiny) downgrade in terms of picture quality when compared to the 3T with Urnyx05's Gcam and HDR+ Enhanced switched on. So it's not like it's just the Oneplus Nord...
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] mythos_:
Now that the magisk module for enabling the rest of the cameras is not needed is there anything else to be gained by having root?

Also I'd be very interested to see the output of the depth sensor but haven't found any app that can do that. Is there any way it can be enabled on this?
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] shivam bitw:
Hello! I have been using the latest greatness build and imo it produces the best looking images. There are certain config files available as well, you can see which one works the best for you!

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Hello! I have been using the latest greatness build and imo it produces the best looking images. There are certain config files available as well, you can see which one works the best for you!
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] exnokiafan:
What about Gcam 8? :)
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] mythos_:
After extensive testing I can confirm Jakob1502's result concerning night mode.

Greatness' version gives much better results. The reason is that it takes a lot more frames than Wichaya's, at least with the profiles I tried (greatnesscam73 and default quality respectively). It does have a color cast by default but enabling AWB (always) fixed it to a large degree (more or less removed it and produced the same colors as Wuchaya's). This version is clearly superior for low light photography (both with night mode and without) at least with those profiles.

During daylight photography Greatness' still gives better results with more sharpness, more dynamic range and uniform lightning. The difference isn't as large as it is in low light photography but it's still there especially if you have dark patches in an otherwise well lit frame.

With the wide lens both versions produce comparable results regarding sharpness and detail but Greatness' version produces a more realistic color cast similar to the main camera while Wichaya's result looks more like the stock camera app (blue color cast).

All cameras work correctly and I haven't encountered issues with switching in both versions.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] bluntking:
Can you please share the apk and config files you use please!

I'm not into these kinds of stuff and would appreciate your help!
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] mythos_:
Everything is on the first post.
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] bluntking:
And what config file did you use?

There are 4 from greatness
[OnePlus Nord Themes, Apps, and Mods] Bloodimirgr:
Gcam 8 out from Arnova

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=83917363&postcount=2624
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Barkeeper1979:
Hello,

I have a question. I read that in the diamond and the touch pro htc doesnt use the sirfstar 3 anymore but the qualcomm gps receiver.

The sirf 3 is a very good receiver but i dont have any experince with qualcomm. I read a review on the internet that qualcomm's performance is less effective than the sirf 3.

(http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=175&page=6)

Does anyone have any experience with the new qualcomm in htc's diamond or touch pro?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Look in the Diamond section, there's plenty of talk of issues with the GPS. No one has the Touch Pro yet since it hasn't released, so no one here could answer your question.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
But can't you summarize it??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pokevitek:
So, I had Sirf Star 3, now I have Diamond (Qualcomm navigation). For a car use, Qualcomm performs as well as SirfStar 3, for pedestrian use, it is unusable, due to Static navigation can not be swithced. Diamond least for 2 hrs and 20 minutes of navigation, due to small batery, but like I said, for pedestrian it is unuseable, and in car you can recharge it permanently, so, iGO and TomTom works well. COM4 baud 4600.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Smaniac:
Is this a software or hardware limitation?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] foo:
I have some difficulties to understand that. What is the point with "static navigation"?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pokevitek:
First, someone thinks it is a software problem, someone thinks its hardware. Anyway, static navigation solves the probem with "jumping" GPS coordinates when staying on one place (in car, coordinates mey be +- 5 meters off), so, navigation will not actualise location in car if speed is under 3 km/s. That is it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] foo:
Ah okay, I understand.

But this "static navigation" should be handled by the application not by the GPS driver. So the navigation software can and should decide by itself if there is some advanced map-matching applied to the coordinates.

Is this "static navigation" feature only an issue with TomTom or does this apply to GoogleMaps as well?

As far as I can remember my old TomTom 6 application had a pedestrian mode as well. I would assume this "static navigation" feature would be turned off in this case.

Does TomTom 7 have no pedestrian mode or is this really something that is handled by the GPS driver?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] DeepDay:
I think you should ask this on the Diamond forum, because almost noone has this phone right now. But if you manage to get an answer, pls let me know, because I'm really interested in this question (I mean the 1st one).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
My experience with the Touch Diamond and iGO8 is that there is a time lag (when you stop the car the GPS continues moving 10 - 15 meters) and a lag consistently showing that my position is some 10 - 30 m behind the actual position. At least I have never seen iGO8 showing my position ahead of the actual. The latter becomes a problem when using smart or auto zoom when zoomed to the highest level. In that case it may look like i should turn at the next intersection and not the one I am in, and that is anoying. However, I believe its possible to set max zoom level also in the auto or smart mode somewhere, and that should improve matters (have not taken the time to do so).

However, the article you refer to does tell me that I'll have to live with some sort of issue, but by-and-large I find it is quite OK, especially if I zoom to a fixed level showing a little more than just 20 m road. I may add that iGO 8 in principle only runs on devices with SD support due to copy protection.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] robal:
I tested (on the road) both Diamond and Touch PRO.

Diamond:

Worse performance than SirfIII receivers I've had. No GPS lag. Still, the performance is acceptable.

Touch PRO:

Performance comparable to SirfIII. Got GPS lag though.

I'm sure that the put a better GPS antenna to Touch PRO, since it gets stronger signal, faster TTF and more reliable navigation.

I hope that GPS lag is software issue that will get fixed.

Cheers,
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
Sounds a bit wierd as TD and TPro is the same processor (and not up to the Sifr chip's performance - but that can be compensated by a well made software). Have you tried it using google map, that could be interesting. Or alternatively put it in pedestrian/off road mode and leave the road.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] danielherrero:
Lag on Raphael is driving me crazy......:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] guitarguy:
Yeah, I'm seeing some pretty nasty lag myself... Just tested it out going from work to home last night, using iGo8. Seems when I stop my car, it keeps moving for a while, speed decreases quite slowly... Not quite as good as my Holux M-1200, but I'll keep testing and see...

Does anyone know/think that a software/radio/rom upgrade might fix this? Or is it just a hardware limitation?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
I'm not getting hardly any lag using TomTom Navigator 6, seems perfect to me. I did set the baud rate to maximum, maybe that's why or maybe it's a software issue with IGo?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] guitarguy:
Hmm, I'll try that tomorrow if I get a chance, although I have my doubts it'll make any difference. I was using the same setup on my Elfin, and although there was some very slight lag, nothing like what I see with the Raph....

But I'll try setting the baud rate to max and retry... I'll let y'all know...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
Most people report lag time regardless the navigationsoft. Maybe the iGO is a bit worse. I surely observe a speed dependend lag sometimes, but even while waiting in an intersection I sometimes observe that iGO informs up to 20 m to the intersection. Sometimes the turn indicator reads 0 m while the main screen surely shows that I am not yet at the intersection. Never I observerd that iGO showed a position ahead of the true position.

It is known that the TD processor is not as accurate as the Sifr chipset so I wonder if it's because the navi soft is averaging the position locking you to the road. Try to let it track your position in a mode not locking to the road (or use google map) and you'll see that the curser is moving even up to 20 m even the phone is left steady on the table.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] adolfotregosa:
i notice allot of gps lag with garmin mobile xt and little with tomtom 7 but it's there. Also i notice that the gps bars on tomtom or garmin do not maintain fixed, not the signal, that would be normal, but the satellite number. This is very strange when i have a few satellites with a very good signal and suddenly the gps software stops using it, why ??? If i was moving around i would accept that, but since i'm not moving why doesn't it maintain the same satellites ??

Always jumping around satellites instead of maintaining them and this is probably caused by the driver that decodes the gps/satellite information.

I really think that the problem comes from the driver that windows uses for the gps + the radio version.

I'm really confident that future ""HTC"" updates will solve the problem, not cooked roms having has base the actual htc rom(s)

Only time will tell , we will have to wait for the next htc update.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
Satellites are moving and the atmospharical conditions changing all the time affecting the signal you receive.

The chipset used by HTC is also not performing as well as the the Sirf III having a lower accuraccy, but that doesn't change the signal strength received of course.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ekerbuddyeker:
its an IGO8 issue. i believe its programmed in so that if you lose sattelite it makes assumptions about where you are going (since you gave it the end point anyway, its fair to assume that you are continuing in that direction). What i wish they would do is put you 3 secs ahead of where it currently shows you, more often than not it would be an accurate assumption. I love igo8 but in a complicated intersection i often miss the correct turn.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] danielherrero:
Tired about the lag I ve done a little program that connects to GPSand analize GPGGA frames. This frame has a timestamp setted by the gps (not GPS time but the time when GPS generated that frame. Then when the program reads the frame simply compares the current time with that timestamp. This is a example result:

[0X2C46C0DA] - $GPGSV,4,1,15,02,,,,07,,,,08,25,052,,09,17,247,*7B

[0X2C46C0DA] - $GPGSV,4,2,15,10,47,175,,12,,,,15,57,314,,17,00,123,*4F

[0X2C46C0DA] - $GPGSV,4,3,15,18,09,319,,19,,,,21,10,298,,24,16,254,*4A

[0X2C46C0DA] - $GPGSV,4,4,15,26,69,350,,27,02,060,,28,51,082,*45

[0X2C46C0DA] - $GPGGA,084524.2,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*75

[0X2C46C0DA] - Processing GPGGA $GPGGA,084524.2,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*75

[0X2C46C0DA] - Date: 08:45:24:200 - 08:45:19:000 ->delay:5 seconds

Always 4 or 5 seconds delay (much delay¡¡). I am going to improve it to make a simple GUI where you can select Port and baud rate to make different tests with external/internal GPS/radio roms, etc.

Dani
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
I don't think so. iGO does not anticipate for long. This you can verify in a tunnel - arter a few hundred meters it stops moving the curser despite your actions. My Blaupunkt has a gyro + receives speed signal so it continues with no problem. My Mio A701 did not suffer from this problem. So I am quite convinced the problem relates to the chip + iGO programming, the latter to a less extend.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
Sounds interesting. Keep it up and let's know your findings Better yet let the manufactures know the problem.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] adolfotregosa:
of course but they do not change position 3 in 3 seconds and the same goes for the atmospheric conditions ;)

radio xxxxxx.31 is much better, so it just proves that the problem is being looked into by htc but we have to wait for newer updates
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Nuri58:
I agree to the change in position, but the atmospheric conditions changes in seconds - just look at your TV signal how it can alternate in seconds from perfect to non existent and back to perfect. So with the extremly week signals (contrarely to TV signals) it will change quickly. Try to monitor the signal strenghts (eg GPS tuner) and see for yourself the variation. And since this is common to all GPS systems I don't think that it's a HTC SW update only.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] knight14th:
Could you send me this program so that I can test it on my SirfIII Eten X500, just to have some comparative values.