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[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Trust me, it's from AT&T official account, the same account I get payment information from. A few posts up, I also showed the official AT&T web page which basically says the same thing.

Now if you are saying AT&T is using crisis THEY CREATED to try to sell me something, yes they are.

They aren't shutting down 3G until NEXT year so they are fear mongering several months ahead of time. These messages started being sent out in April to their customers.

AT&T could easily whitelist the 2017 LG V30 Open Market US998 for VoLTE/VoWifi -- the same way T-Mobile has granted those privileges to the US998 V30 (besides their own T-Mobile H932 V30/V30+), and the same way AT&T themselves have whitelisted the carrier unlocked 2018 LG V35. There's nothing in the US998 V30/V30+/V30S specs to deny me AT&T VoLTE, except AT&T has decided only the AT&T branded H931 V30 gets that. :rolleyes:

I don't want to change carriers, so I will get a new phone by next February. BUT I am NOT buying a phone from AT&T. I'll probably buy a carrier unlocked Galaxy S10+, which is on the whitelist, not the AT&T branded one. Or maybe a carrier unlocked LG G8. I am not going to reward them with more money from a phone purchase. The two "AT&T" V35 I bought for my mom and my wife were from fellow XDA member and eBay respectively, but my wife's is already flashed to carrier unlocked firmware.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ldeveraux:
Or you could wait it out and see if they blacklist your IMEI. Their attempt to strongarm you into upgrading to the poor man's iPhone from a device that we're certain will physically and logistically function without 3G is reason enough to leave AT&T. Just do it, they suck. Move to VZ, never have a dropped call again, and accept the ~$85 monthly bill. Don't know why you're so sweet on that carrier. You take your number with you ya know :ROFLMAO:
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] kgirlx:
Someone's drinking the red kool aid... Had VZ for yrs now and they are just as evil and ****ed up as AT&T...and I'm in Northwest Indiana... Just outside Chicago...Dont be in a crowd... Calls and network not working cause of too many people and not enough towers... I would jump ship but when you start comparing exact plans... It's the same high price.... Just different name.. Glad big red is great for you.. But I can see why Chazz doesn't leave the other dark side to join another one
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ldeveraux:
The same could be said for any service: television, internet, manufacturers, vendors, etc. I'm just saying of the 2 current major carriers one paid Apple enough money to get an exclusive release contract on the first iPhone, and the other is Verizon.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Hi V30 gang. It's been a while.

I just got my latest annual plan from Red Pocket, this year on GSMT (TMO). Unfortunately they now switched to a new type of TMO SIM with MNC=240 (used to be 260). I don't know if it is the "hybrid" type previously reported.

But a result, US998 loads the IMS config for US Cellular (USC) instead of the correct TMUS config. Hence it no longer has the correct IMS settings -- so neither VoLTE nor VoWiFi works. It also no longer has the WiFi Calling menu setting.

I tried updating individual IMS setting in Hidden Menu, but we are talking hundreds of settings. I wasn't able to make it work.

So US998 is no longer compatible with VoLTE and VoWiFi on TMO.

Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T) continues to work perfectly on US998, including VoLTE. But my plan expires in about a week, and it is no longer available on GSMA, only on GSMT. (Last year it was the opposite...)

I haven't decided what to do. I have no interest in dumping my two US998 since they otherwise work perfectly and are plenty fast for my use. My wife's H932 works too and, ironically, her unlimited plan is still available on both GSMA and GSMT. I already paid for my annual plan, so I'll work with Red Pocket and see what they can offer.

But no new TMO activations on US998. It's finished. (You can activate, but you won't get VoLTE or VoWiFi, only 3G calling - while that lasts).
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I am on US998 with Mint...way better than my issues with Red Pocket if you remember!

VoLTE and Wifi Calling work fine....only thing that doesnt work is MMS when in airplane mode if you are in an area without cell service as well, but I think that is something that would kill MMS on anyphone?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Thank you. Yes, I do remember. But I believe it would be the same if I tried to activate on Mint now since TMO's new SIM cards are the problem.

If I had transferred to Red Pocket GSMT just a few months ago (using a SIM card they sent me last year) I wouldn't have had this problem, and I could have just renewed my plan for another year on that SIM card. Unfortunately they are not allowed to activate on those old SIM cards anymore.

Again, it's TMO's new SIM cards that are the problem, not the service or the MVNO. I had an opportunity to test another new SIM card from SafeLink (another TMO MVNO) and it was exactly the same problem.

GSMA (AT&T) works great for me, including VoLTE, and has much better coverage than GSMT (TMO) in our concrete block home. I was just hoping to get VoWiFi. But I'll have to choose a different GSMA plan since my current one is now only available on GSMT.

Besides, Mint doesn't have any plans near what I am currently paying ($60/year). Their lowest annual plan is $180/year.

That said, if anybody makes a new activation on Mint and it works with VoLTE and VoWiFi on US998 I'll be very interested to hear.

On a different note, it feels like I've gotten a new battery since I began using VoLTE permanently after AT&T shuffled their towers to beef up LTE and reduce 3G. It used to be the opposite. I almost couldn't believe it when my phone began lasting 2-3 days on a charge again, barely sipping battery during idle :)
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
But no wifi calling on GSMA right?

Have you asked Mint about them using the new TMO Sims? I was told they don't when I 1st started with them 3 Mos ago...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I haven't asked Mint if they switched to the new SIM. Red Pocket only just switched recently.

But Mint is far too expensive for my lowly needs. Again, their smallest plan is 3X what I pay now. So I'll stay on GSMA.

But correct, no WiFi Calling on GSMA. The plan has it, just not US998, only H931. I use Google Voice, most calls are on my PC.

Boy the XDA app really is horrible. It's the reason I stopped reading and posting on XDA. And just our few exchanges here confirm why. To be fair, it might be ok for someone who uses it many hours every day. To me it's like learning a new language every time I open it: Nothing about it is intuitive. Sorry </rant>
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] schwinn8:
Just an "outside the box" thought - what about a VZ MVNO? I've been very happy with VZ in my area (my company uses it as well)... and I now use Total Wireless which has been great. Everything works, cost is low ($60 for 2 lines, 30GB data, 10GB Hotspot)... and it works on US998, but I admit I am using VS996 instead simply because I never bothered to switch away from it.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
Oh I'd love to try that. Red Pocket has VZ too, but they confirmed what others have said here: I need a VZ branded phone to activate it. Based on my IMEI (which is LS998) they couldn't activate.

Does Total Wireless activate on non-VZ phones? Specifically on a converted LS998?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] cmrntnnr:
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I activated a StraightTalk sim for Verizon on my US998. I do not recall if VoWIFI functioned properly but probably not.

VoWIFI has been problematic for me on open market roms with both V30 and V35 in general. Neither phone would do VoWIFI with an actual Verizon sim on such a rom. The menus simply do not appear. I've hacked menus and OP files without success. VS996 rom was stellar in that regard on the US998.

A few months back I thought I'd save some money and switched to G-Fi. I live in a rural area and Verizon is the only carrier with reliable signal at my home. The idea was to use VoWIFI for phone calls. The V35 is a "designed for G-Fi phone" after all. Fail, neither V35 nor V30 will activate VoWIFI and give ER081. I have been unsuccessful in getting a fix. Google Fi support was useless. My impression from them is that some problems just aren't worth solving. Back to VZW or one of its resellers shortly.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] schwinn8:
I believe so... I forget exactly how I transitioned, because it's been a while, and your question is making me second guess myself! I used to be on VZ,and I used my already-activated SIM from my Turbo when I first got the V30. That worked, of course.

Then after learning about TW, I gave it a shot - got their SIM and I believe I just activated it on the V30... so I expect I must have done this, but I don't recall exactly. Since TW is contract-free, I'd say give it a shot and see what happens?

Note I also played with Mint Mobile for a month, to test a V30 I was getting for a friend. That worked without issue as well, FWIW...

Again,with all of these non-contract MVNOs, you can try it out and make sure it works before committing fully. For example, with TW the biggest complaint I heard was that customer support wasn't good. I didn't experience that myself - they got stuff working for me quite well... but that's why I also tested it out before dropping VZ completely... the magic of swapping SIMs!
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] TheDannemand:
I guess I should post an update after my whining about Red Pocket changing their GSMT service (T-Mobile) to a new type of SIM which isn't compatible with VoLTE on US998.

After activating with the new SIM and seeing that, as suspected, I had 3G voice and LTE data service, but NOT VoLTE, I persuaded Red Pocket chat to activate the classic GSMT SIM which I had bought last year when I first considered switching to GSMT.

Bingo, everything worked: IMS detected the service correctly; VoLTE worked right away; WiFi Calling worked as soon as they enabled it on my account; Menu selections to control both VoLTE and WiFi Calling. It's as US998 T-Mobile users have reported all along.

Signal still isn't as good inside our home as on GSMA (AT&T) and as a result it uses a bit more battery. No low frequency bands, which is what made us leave TMO in the first place. But having WiFi Calling is nice instead of relying only on Google Voice.

And I am still on my 100/100/500 $60 annual plan ($5/month) :giggle:

Conclusion: For Red Pocket GSMT (and I suspect any T-Mobile MVNO going forward) you want to avoid the new SIM cards like the plague. If you are just signing up for service, ask about the MNC code: It must be 260 (classic TMO) not 240 (new TMO) in order to work with US998.

Red Pocket still has GSMA (AT&T) which works great and offers VoLTE (working on US998 if enabled in hidden menu) and WiFi Calling (NOT working on US998). But fewer plans are available on GSMA than in the past.

They also have Verizon service (dubbed CDMA) but I didn't even ask about that, knowing that I would need a VZ branded phone to activate it. They confirmed that when I asked last year.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Osprey00:
Edit: My message may've been premature. Deleting for now.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Osprey00:
Ok, so I lost service with AT&T a couple of days ago for no discernible explanation except a "SIM not provisioned" error. I suspected that it might've had to do with the eventual shutdown of 3G service, but went into the AT&T store and got a new SIM card just in case. That briefly restored it, but then I lost it again and discovered on their website that service to the phone had been suspended. I contacted AT&T and they said, as I suspected, that they suspended service to my phone because it's a 3G phone... yet they were also able to restore it. I now have my service back, but was warned that I'd lose it again in February and was pitched an "upgrade" phone that's really a big downgrade from the V30.

So, I guess that this is a warning that, if you're on AT&T and not on stock with working VoLTE, you could lose your service at any time before February. It's pretty easy to re-instate it, though: just call AT&T or log into their website and use their chat feature and ask them to restore service. You may also need to do this if you get a new sim card or report the phone as stolen.

BTW, I asked the lady whether it's true what @ChazzMatt said (not that I'd ever doubt ChazzMatt!) about AT&T enabling VoLTE only on AT&T IMEIed phones and couldn't really get an answer. I'm going to assume that it's true and that, even if I'm somehow able to find an H931 (AT&T) flashable stock ROM, I still won't get VoLTE (on my Sprint LS998 converted to US998) and will still lose service in February. I suppose that I need to start thinking about replacing my beloved V30, which is a shame because it still has everything that I want. I'd be more than happy to continue using it for at least another 2 years.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] schwinn8:
My recommendation would be to dump ATT and go to a carrier that doesn't play stupid IMEI games like this. I did that when VZ started to pull this BS on me, and now I'm on Total Wireless who doesn't seem to care... and I'm still on VZ towers. I imagine there must be a carrier out there that uses ATT towers (assuming you prefer them for coverage in your area) that will activate your V30 and give you VOLTE/VOWIFI.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Osprey00:
Yeah, the thought crossed my mind, but it's also an awful lot of hassle just to keep using a 4-year-old phone and, on top of that, I wouldn't be very happy with having to use LG stock on it forever. I'm more inclined to just keep AT&T and replace the phone with another one that I can tinker with.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jptV30:
I used the Total Wireless BYOD IMEI checker on their website and it rejected all the non-verizon approved phones. Which phone did you use?
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] schwinn8:
First, to answer your question, TW refused to re-activate my V30 phones as both were purchased as US998 and didn't carry a VZ-approved IMEI. Even though both phones have worked perfectly fine for 4+ years on their network. I checked the IMEI of one phone yesterday, and it does say it's "not compatible". Again, BS it's not compatible - it worked fine for 4+ years! But they don't care.

As for my new phones, both are Galaxy S10+ phones. Both are showing as approved on the TW network checker. One was originally Sprint and the other was originally VZ (per IMEI checkers online as well as the phones, which report this as part of their CSC values).

I thought TW was more compliant, but I rescind my recommendation for them on this matter. Although, from what I see, all carriers play these games - some more than others. I will say that TW seems more lenient, overall. None of this is ideal nor even fair to consumers, and I went into a little detail on another thread, which I'll copy/paste here: Fact is, the IMEI is relatively meaningless, and the software/ROM is what matters... but the carriers don't care because it gives them an excuse to make people buy a new overpriced phone from their stores. In the case of the S10, pretty much all of Snapgragons are the same, and can be ODINed to any flavor with no real effort. Similar to how we can Frankenstein our V30s into various flavors.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Yes, for the V30 it's only AT&T IMEI for VoLTE.

AT&T has now released a PDF showing newer "carrier unlocked" phones which can receive VoLTE, but the 2017 V30 is not one of them. The 2018 V35 is, which was sold through AT&T as well as ca carrier unlocked V35 model through Cricket and Google Fi. (Yes, it's strange Cricket got carrier unlocked model.) My mother now has the AT&T firmware V35 (but carrier unlocked through dealer) and my wife has the factory carrier unlocked V35. AT&T is happy.

AT&T has sent me warning texts that my US998 V30 service will be cut off within 30 days of them shipping me some AT&T disposable phone. I have not received it yet. I have bought a "mint" AT&T firmware Galaxy S10+, still in box, for when that happens. I'll give the AT&T low spec phone to my oldest daughter. If I switch over before then, they won't send me the phone.

Also, I am still using my V30+ every day and don't want to go through the hassle of switching over. Setting up work and personal email accounts, apps, etc. Since it's not an LG, I can't use the migrate app.

If the S10+ bootloader version 4 or lower it can be bootloader unlocked and rooted through a paid service and ODIN. I hope it is. Galaxy S10+ has headset jack, big battery, lots of RAM, micro SD card, FM radio, stereo speakers. It seemed to be the closest thing to what LG should have done for a successor to the V30/V30+, but didn't. The regular Galaxy S10 is fine, also, but S10+ has much bigger battery.

Compare Samsung Galaxy S10+ vs. Samsung Galaxy S10 - GSMArena.com

www.gsmarena.com
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Osprey00:
Yeah, I've been looking at that PDF and noticed the V35 on there. I'm strongly considering a V35 for that reason and because the differences between it and the V30 are minimal. It'd be the closest thing to getting to keep my V30+. In fact, I would've bought a V35 a few years ago instead of the V30+, but the V30+ had a much better development scene and more internal storage. I could've saved all of this trouble if I'd just bought the V35, but, then again, unlocking the V30 and installing dozens of ROMs was fun.

Edit: I'm starting to reconsider because the V35 comes with only 64GB storage. That doesn't leave a whole lot of room and it would be annoying to downgrade from my V30+'s 128GB. The G8 seems to be an option because it's 128GB and a slight upgrade over the V35 in several other areas, though it's noticeably thicker.

That may've been what happened to me, since AT&T sent us a free phone, but I don't recall getting the texts. It's a real cheapie phone... all plastic and under 6". I didn't even bother to turn it on, since I had no interest in using it. Not even my mother wanted to replace her 7-year-old HTC One M8 with it. I'm sure that it'd be OK for users who have never had anything better, though.

The S10 looks like a solid option (I'm not sure that I want the extra size and weight of the S10+)... but wouldn't bootloader unlocking it and installing LineageOS give us the same problem that we have now, with the V30... no VoLTE and, therefore, no service with AT&T past February? It seems to me that we AT&T customers won't be able to use any custom ROMs past February, so what's the point of us buying a phone that can be bootloader unlocked? Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'd love to be.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] schwinn8:
The S10+ isn't much bigger than the V30. They got the larger screen by moving it WAY to the edges, and making it a little taller. You can see the digital image size comparison here: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/LG-V30,Samsung-Galaxy-S10+/phones/10577,10960

Yes, from what I see, even on S10+, the custom ROMs you can't get VOLTE. I admit I haven't looked very deeply at it, as I plan to stay stock on my S10+, but a quick search showed me this issue there.

I will say, haven't used the phone a lot yet, but the battery doesn't seem to last significantly longer than my 4 year old V30, so far. Again, it just doesn't FEEL like a big change, but I have no numerical data to back this up. It also could be just because I'm using it more right now, getting it setup, etc. I suppose I should boot up the old phone and see what the battery stat apps say. I think I have accubattery on there and so it should tell me...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I plan on running stock firmware on S10+, but rooted and debloated just as I have done with my V30+. I have never run an LOS custom ROM on my V30, for various reasons. Bootloader unlock means being able to have root, being administrator of your own phone. I have apps that need root, need me to be the Administrator -- not the carrier, not the manufacturer.

With Xposed and Gravity Box you can have custom ROM features.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ldeveraux:
eww, don't go down that road. Isn't Xposed dead anyway, with its latest just-as-poor replacement EdXposed? No thanks.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
I'm still using Xposed/Gravity Box on my V30+.

But even if I don't do that on the S10+, I still want bootloader unlock and root. I use several apps that need root. I want to be Admin of my handheld computer which also happens to send texts and make phone calls...
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] Osprey00:
Gotcha. I didn't consider that because I remember when you didn't need an unlocked bootloader to get root. When I bought my V30+, I had been away from Android and on Windows Mobile for many years, and, apparently, a lot changed between KitKat and Oreo (duh). I've also always just been someone to want to re-install a clean OS/ROM rather than de-bloat one.

Thanks for giving me a little clarity on what I want. If I can't use a custom ROM (because I won't get service), then I at least want to pick out a phone that can be bootloader unlocked, since root is important to me, especially now that I have to de-bloat the OS and install toolkits to add custom features, as you noted. Yeah, that looks like the way forward for me. Thanks.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] jptV30:
I'm assuming your US998's are crossflashed phones since US998 is approved by Verizon. To me, Verizon not letting you activate service on a non-approved phone isn't really a big issue. You can just pick up a somewhat broken Verizon compatible phone on ebay for $10-$15, activate service, then move the sim to whatever phone you want to use.

I checked the IMEI of ATT, Sprint, and T-Mobile variants of S10+ using the Verizon IMEI checker and looks like they are all approved by Verizon. So Total Wireless isn't letting you use a non-Verizon approved phone, your phone is Verizon approved.

The hardware matters too. Not all phones support every band of every carrier.
[LG V30 Guides, News, & Discussion] schwinn8:
Thanks for the deep dive!

I checked the IMEI of my wife's phone, and imeipro.info says this was a V30 Plus US998, originally on US Cellular. It also has a clean IMEI based on multiple site results.

Yes, I know not all phones support every band, but these days that's set by software. I installed VS996 on this phone and ran it on TW for 4 years, as I said. No issues whatsoever. As we know on this forum, the V30 is a "general" device, and supports all these major carriers via software changes... so the hardware supports it, and the software does, so my complaint stands - why won't the activate it? Because they want to make me buy a different phone.

As for SIM swapping, yes I know that can work - that's what I had done for the 4 years. But somewhere along the way, they locked that SIM for some reason. Maybe because it went to the S10 and came back within a few days, I don't know... but they didn't care before. And they don't care now - I just took that same SIM, reactivated on the old/original Turbo, and swapped it into the S10 again, and it's been running fine. Keep in mind, they are VERY annoyed that I did this at all... they said it's "not allowed". So, if I want to be a good/honest customer, I want to activate the V30... but they won't let me do that either.

Bottom line, all my phones work on the network. The SIM is fine. The SIM is valid and paid for. I get it, if I was doing something nefarious, lock the SIM and make me validate I'm not up to no-good (I don't know what that could be, but I'm happy to prove I'm me, etc)... but I see no reason to prevent me from activating this V30 on the network. They just won't try it at all... and that's what pisses me off.