yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Bonta768:
@ulluvme

Life is disappointing... so what. Promises made on a forum followed by a *donation* do not constitute a formal contract. Software development is not a straight forward process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month), and delays may be unforseen, not malicious. schaps has many other forum users that can vouch for his sincerity and integrity, and his contributions to these forums (1500 messages in 3 years) are far greater than yours (8 messages in 5 years).

I actually develop software professionally.

http://www.virtualspectator.com/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rl2000:
Well, I did write in this thread earlier, never negatively though. I just hope that Schaps doesn't think that everybody hates him and thinks he's a liar.

Personally I'm very excited about this project and yes, just as impatient as anyone when it comes to software you're really psyched about.

I think Schaps should stop taking the haters so seriously and realize that for every crybaby there's hundreds of silent supporters. That's how it's always been and always will be. People who feel let down are quicker to post than people who await with patience, that's nothing new.

But let me get this straight, there won't public release for some time due to the ungratefulness of people spamming him with hate?

Is the private beta out yet? Just want to know how far he's gotten, it looks really awesome, I can't even begin to imagine the hours he's put into it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
From my point of view. If I was doing what Schaps was doing, regardless of delays and things of that nature - Upon reading posts like that I would too regret my efforts and not only that but totally consider canning the project that is essentially a deep customization to improve our phones beyond probably what we can fathom.

I have read a million posts from various users who vouch for Schaps ROMs and their stability and integrity. They also state they are the ROMs they keep coming back to, for the devices he has cooked for. Not to mention his software would be found on nearly every single phone - Advanced Config.

Being an attorney at law it's clear you've never developed anything. You obviously don't understand the procedure involved nor the potential hiccups.

And you seem to be missing a key point in this matter, you donated by choice. Schaps never asked for a payment, he simply gave you the option to donate to be apart of the private beta test. It was up to you to do so. And the icing on the cake is, the project would have been expanding this entire time so there has always been more reason to donate as he designed and created more features for the ROM, those donations went towards the growth of his project so he could support many devices and resolutions.

I highly doubt there is any malicious intent and I await my copy of the private beta anxiously but patiently. He has never claimed innocence in any of the emails I have received but stated there has been delays and he is working on it. I don't think I speak for only myself when I say I would much prefer a 99.9% working version that is a keeper of a ROM as opposed to a 80% working version with glitches and bugs that make daily use a hassle.

Take my post with a pinch of salt but I prefer to remain positive.

Yes you do have a point there. There would be hundreds of silent supporters sitting back waiting patiently as we all should.

And yes that is correct, he has reserved TouchXperience for solely a private beta for the meantime due to the negative posts directed his way. Not just on here though.

No private beta is not out yet. He stated the source code was 70mb - 70mb of text!!! That should translate into many, many, many hours.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rl2000:
How do I donate? On the TouchXperience website or?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] energyadj:
You can donate on TouchXperience site ...or everywhere is the schaps donate link (under his posts ...) ...on the first page of this topic...etc !

...by the way .... I am one of the TouchXperience sillent supporter too !

Respect!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] slovoflud:
I'm Silently waiting too! :) best of luck to Schaps! Waiting for the ROM!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ulluvme:
Thanks for your feedback Dickens.....I wasnt always a lawyer and worked in software for years. I am very familiar with development. I know that a mans word means a lot regardless of occupation. I think Schapp is a brilliant and love advanced config. I would not change the fact I donated. I stand behind the idea that people make donations based upon their faith in the entity to which they donate. That faith often comes from promises....when the promises are not fulfilled often the faith is lost. Sometimes no promise is far better than a broken one. It would be a shame for someone as skilled as Schapps to lose credibility given this issue.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Kraize:
Yes! Indeed public beta has been stopped as of now. Schaps is still working hard to release the private beta, and I'll let you guys know ASAP when he sends the private beta testers the rom. You'll have a full in-depth review that I will write during a 5 day period. I'll have screenshots and possibly videos. So as soon as you see a thread by me about TouchXperience in either the Diamond Rom or Raphael rom section, you'll know that the private beta is released. But for now, he's working hard and appreciating the donations which encourage him to work ;)

As a side note, I don't work for Schaps or am related to him in any way. I just support him and the work he does. I could be like half the majority and whine about when he'll release it, but instead I do other creative things and tell people about TouchXperience and gather more interest on the development rather than just whining. You people might be familiar with developement and whatever you do, but this is Schap's first coding project. It's also the biggest one. He's trying to make it perfect. You all know that Advanced Config is a great tool and is found on nearly every rom and device here. He just developed a great app. I have high expectations for this rom, no matter when it's released, because schaps will make it better. It wouldn't matter if WM6.5 is released, Schaps will make it compatible and better than what microsoft puts out.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lucasjohny:
Thanks for the info, hope to hear good news soon, keep up the good works, in this world nothing is perfect, human always have their own way of thinking, drop the hate be focus, live your life in happy way.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] liamhere:
MOD BREAK

Behave guys....you have been warned

PLEASE SHOW RESPECT FOR MEMEBERS IN THIS FORUM

thread cleaning time again.

thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wicksie:
This thread is unfortunately becoming a comedy in the making. I wish everyone that has something unconstructive to say would just shut their eyes and go somewhere else...nobody is forcing ppl to stay in this thread, nobody is forcing ppl to wait for the new project...if you cannot wait for this great arrival on the horizon in an orderly fashion then perhaps you don't need it and shouldn't be clogging up this thread.

I for one will sit quietly again and wait for the master to teach us what he can.

The earth took God 7 days to make, perfection takes perhaps a little longer!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Kraize:
I mean seriously, if all you guys are going to do is complain, I might as well stop telling you what schaps updates me and private beta testers on in e-mails since most private beta testers have stopped posting updates anyways. I only update hoping you guys might actually get convinced that it is real and it's one step closer to being perfected and released, but you people are a lost generation. I'm going to stop updating this thread. You might as well lock it now. Thank all the idiots who've not supported this project and just complain and make liamhere clean this thread again and again (Btw, thanks for the cleaning liamhere ;))

From now on, if you guys want updates on private beta/what's new, please PM me with the subject "TouchXperience Supporter" and tell me your e-mail address, so I can create a group of those who are genuinely interested and I'll keep them updated. Or better yet, sign up on the TouchXperience forum and then PM me here and tell me your s/n on the forum so I can create a group there with you're own section to have updates and discussion on how to make TouchXperience better because you are the real supporters. Either/or, just send a PM my way. I'll take both ways. Either sign up for the forums or via e-mail or both. Just let me know which you prefer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Kraize:
Dude! Stop posting random crap lol. You're drunk or high or something. I'm in the same cahoot that private beta testers are in haha. How about I let you feel the glory of having the public beta release link (when continued) ten seconds before I release it so you have 10 seconds of glory when it is released haha.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] liamhere:
your welcome Kraize

NOTE TO ALL.....

POSTS MOANING OR OFF TOPIC....WILL BE REMOVED.

thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wicksie:
I posted on topic and in support of Schaps and I got moderated and removed; how does that work? :eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] liamhere:
sorry....i ticked one to many....i am human you know :rolleyes:

your post is back :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wicksie:
...thank you Liamhere, support shown is supported appreciated
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] yxgwfty:
It's a shame, really.

If you've been around here at all, you know that there are the givers and the takers. To all the Givers, thank you. Of the the Takers, there are those who come here finding a wealth of information, resource, and sheer brilliant talent and they are Thankful for the help and chance to learn about these amazing devices and what they themselves can do with them. Conversely, there are the Takers that are pure selfish morons who fail to understand everything I just said. They care mostly about themselves without the care of what it takes to bring them this wonderful array of information. These people are the ones who we read about who have been moderated and have had their voices rightly muted.... however, their effect is made. Of the Givers, those of us who have been "burning" our devices since we impatiently recieved them, ALL know of the ones who opened our eyes to the possibilities. CRC, Schap, Tai....just to name a few, have given us MANY variants and colorful opportunities. To all the people who make this community thrive, I thank you. No matter if you simply wrote a fix for my 5th button, gave me the ability to customize nearly every aspect of my Hermes, or if you came here a nooby and customized your very first ROM and shared it with all of us, YOU make this community work.

.....and to the Takers, this is why this forum exists. We provide the thoughts, suggestions, tried and failed or sometimes successfull endevours to make our own devices better, or fit our needs. Then, we all share that information for everybody to take. You can be grateful and NEVER GIVE A DIME, and we will ALL welcome you here. For those who choose to denegrate, demean, and criticize out of spite and stupidity..... well, we know where you will be the next time your device locks up, or you need that neat application, or simply want that different theme. We will still be here, and we hope that you will show at least some respect for those who Give so you can take.

As for Touchxperience, and Julian..... When it is done, if it gets to the point where HE feels HE can give it to us, then we will all be here to share it. If you don't wish to wait, there are plenty of other projects you can visit.

I think I speak for all the grateful members of XDA when I say thank you to all the Givers, and I hope that they continue to enjoy giving their time and talent.

Thank You.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wcg-tom:
sounds great! just donated some money in advance...

looking forward to your work!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] AnnaW:
It seems, some people not read Schap´s preliminary remarks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Narco77:
Great news !

since I got my diamond, I've always been trying to find a way to improve the standard UI, testing many different products (pointui, wisbar, winterface, sbp mobile shell), none of which fully satisfied me, but nevertheless gave me an idea of the fantastic possibilities that could be implemented.

Having worked in the video game industry, I've got some experience in Interface design, ergonomics etc., and also software localization (EN, FR, DE).

I'd be glad to participate in the development of your project, be it as a beta tester or later on, as a contributing user.

Bon courage !
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] aSeeker:
Hi Schap,

I'm an experienced dev on Windows and Linux with Pocket PC dev experience with gps enabled apps (parking tickets :S).

I've worked on the complete dev cycle for 20 years - from design, implementation to testing and support.

If you're looking for somebody who can test, explore and write up well written issues - let me know.

Regards,

aSeeker.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] AssimilatorX:
UU can Count on Me is well since i got 2 diamonds now one is dead but i hope there is still hope. i only can flash signed roms i used your works on my hermes before and i was really hapy wth them this hermes is on the oter side now your was the favorit 4 me i only have crking experience but not for wm.

THX.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] uniqueboy:
Love to use, hate to test. Don't choose me I suck, I can only dream and chop wood! Your project sounds huge and awesome, how one man con do more than the worlds leading smartphone company, wow!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Stingray66:
Beta test

As always I would be happy to test your application or ROM, sir.:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mikkelnl:
Not much of a dev, but I work in the field of usability and interaction design, and I'd like to test your future rom :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] sev7en:
I am here... ready for duty! I'll pleased to join in... ^_^
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mrjay:
me too i want in :D :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ComPas-V:
Good luck :)

Donated some ....

Not asking to be the beta tester ... just do not have time...

But looks you will have enough.

The Idea is great : all in one with nice and friendly UI.

My two cents are : do not try to make ALL in ONE. The one could be too small for all.. Just really necessary things should have the quick access. The best interface is minimal. The "nice-to-have" things will force you to make more flexible (more generic) solution - and it will lead to lack of resources (any of them). After all it's windows. ouch ... it's already dollar ;)

Any way - the idea is BIG!!! Good luck!!!!:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] schaps:
New video demos of TouchXperience UI

I made some video demos, you can take a look on TouchXperience website:

http://www.touchxperience.com/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] vjsxda:
dude u made use of the sensors... practicality man while htc didnt great work jus great work
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] gaabrysz:
just watched the videos and......... WOW...... i'm out of words !! soon as the beta rolls out and it's on my Diamond I'm donating some $ for u man :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] makeveral:
Amazing work!! it's incredible its better than all interfaces i've seen made by HTC, sony ericsson or whatever!! KEEP IT UP!!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Sergio PC:
Wooowww:D

This keeps on getting better.

We are all riding a nicee wave!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] thaithug:
I test

Count me in for beta tester. I am a Thai user (asian UTF-8/16 user). If anything I can help to support you can count on me.

Forgot, I'm DIAMOND user
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] :
I donate 15 eur...nice jobs...I'm enjoying on test version and test program
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rvbcrs:
Damn man that is looking great! Please count me in if you need help!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tararura:
Great UI. Lots of work into it. Will wait for the beta . Good luck.......
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] guythomaz:
My Opinon

I think it is absolutly not necessary to anounce something and let talk people about that for half an year. We have now 58 pages, most is just spam.

I think if something is almost ready, announcement is okay, but not half year before.

When this product comes out, maybe for 6.1 it is already old, because all want to use it with 6.5. But all the respect for the developer.

Anyway, just my 50 cent.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Kraize:
True. Schaps did make that mistake of announcing it too early.

Sigh. Again with the disrespectful comments.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] R3PUBL1K:
Another pointless post -

Development takes time and patience -something you may lack?

I bet the US space shuttle build and launch was not announced and released in 6 months. Nor many other developments - which could be a very long list indeed.

Just my thrupenny bit worth
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] madlazytom:
can you count me in TouchXperience Supporter thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] casihasi:
Another Supporter

Hi everybody!

My first post in this forum: Just to keep the balance. I think many supporters are waiting silently for TouchXperience while others are complaining even louder. So I will break the silence of the silent, patient people.

As a developer myself (although I did no so complex project by myself so far) I know that it can happen to announce something to early: Everything seems ready, there are just some more or less tiny things to fix yet. And then one of the tiny things turns out problematic. And this leads to other tiny things that must be done. Chainreaction. And suddenly the release is delayed more and more.

And the complaining of the impatient ones pulls energy which could have been used for further development...

I clearly understand, when Julian needs a break and he should take it whenever he likes - and we should respect his work. Hey, our devices are working, lets just be glad they will be working even better in the future!

Respect and best wishes to Schaps!

Carsten
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] arche3:
question

when Touch Experience is finished we will most likely be on to the Touch Diamond 2 and wm6.5. possibly wm7 hopefully soon as well. Will all of the work be wasted on a UI that is unable to work with the newer wm os?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] iceblade997:
well i for one am still very confident that this will be very very excellent when it comes out - i haven't seen any UI that purports to have as many features and as much customisation, not even anythiong from the great SPB people... so i am perfectly wllling to wait in the sidelines until it gets done :D.

keep going, Schaps!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] bbdoc:
Does anyone know if TouchXP will be optimized for an HTC Tytn as well? This is already a quite old device, so it doesn't have the RAM and internal storage of the new diamond, but I'd like to continue using it anyway...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wez89:
WOW i watched the videos, truly amazing. Who cares how long this will take, 1 year, 2 years, in the end its something nobody has done so why complain? I cant wait for the release, im sure once this is released it will be cooked in with the new manila2. Even so il be using it regardless, thanks to all the developers, beta-testers and kraize for the updates (:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mahd-leb:
complain complain !!!!..... well i for one i just wanna say thanks for your time schaps developing touchx take your time when your ready we will be here :D great job bro
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] GriFolle:
Yeah Shaps...

TAKE YOUR TIME AND ANNOUNCE IT (MAYBE) FOR TOMORROW...

6 months are too much for me (and for my intelligence: In this period I've refreshed so many times this 3d that I can't remember...)

(maybe just my - sarcastic - blablabla...)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mahd-leb:
not even gonna comment back on you because i dnt want to start pointless posts

i feel some peoples negative comments has made schaps feel unpreciated and killed his ambition to work on touchx and his dedication i want to start a petition that will show schaps some thanks for his work and get him to keep worken on touchx so it can be out soon if you want to show your appreciate pm with your name and email and i will include it to the list ...... :P iam hoping to make a big list so come on guys you would never know what lil love can do :P you might see touchx in a week :P !!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] dickenz:
Dude... Relax - Yes you're right, a lot of posts here and on other forums may have offended Schaps and disheartened his efforts - And hats off to you for being proactive in supporting him but the mods here and on other forums are taking care of the negative posts. Doing their job as required. We have liamhere to thank for cleaning the rubbish from this thread.

Schaps is still working on TouchXperience. He is just not planning a public beta at this stage. It will be out soon enough, patience is a virtue.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Kraize:
Okay guys that have PM'd me, please watch this thread for a bit. Currently, I have 16 people that have signed up! I'll start keeping them informed once new information starts coming out. Don't expect me to give away the details of conversations I have with schaps, but you can expect to know what other private beta testers know. I am also looking for some graphics artists. Currently, the only graphics artist I know that would be ready to skin touchxperience is htctoucher. I personally love the menu as it is, but I know others always want something difference. Let me tell you all this though, the apps that schaps mentions on his site, will be available to the public and as downloadable apps.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] bbdoc:
Thanks Kraize for this feedback... If Schaps needs a beta tester on an HTC Tytn, in case there isn't one already, I'm available (I never cooked any ROM, so I don't have any experience on this, but I have been in the testing field for some years)... just in case anyway...

As far as graphic artists are concerned, I'm pretty sure some of them will show up as soon as a release is available... and from what I could see, the interface is so flexible I'm not sure a lot more graphic is necessary...

By the way, just to tell I'm also one of these silent supporters of Schaps... Don't worry too much about critism, there will always be, whatever you do, but I'm quite sure you also have lots of supporters out there... I would be quite curious to get the download statistics on the first release day ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rkmoray:
As a contributor to Schapps, and a developer. I not only look forward to the release of TX, but I understand the delays. And would be happy to be a beta tester.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Kraize:
Sorry for no updates guys! The last e-mail that I got from schaps said that he was sick and had some problems. So if I get an e-mail, I'll let you guys know, at least those who have PM'd me ;)