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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] birkov10:
Relax people!

Riki1 was very helpful, the problem was that my cab had a bug causing that it fails when you try to unistall it.

As riki1 has said, when you load the library that I´ve ported from Raphael, the system is hanged, so the problem seem to be in that the Touch Pro and Diamond´s hardware are different.

On the other hand I´ve found other library ( H2W_ACCESSORY.dll ) that could be related with the video output, but I don´t know...

If someone has some interest I can build a new cab.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rocky50:
Ok.We are so close to positive end.Let's try different ways to reach it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
Do you have a new cab ? And TVO1 device is "loaded" after you apply this cab on your phone ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] joey7415963:
Whoa! I never knew this thread was still going, I never received the email updates untill now!!!!!

Good on all of you for keeping this alive!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rickrugz:
wow

my brain hurts after all that :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xelectro87x:
my brain too...i´m reading here since 9am o´clock today...fact is, that the TV-Out doesn´t works currently on the Touch Diamond.

(Sorry for my bad english, but school is a long time ago)

Can i help you? Some tests or something?

kind regards,

Jochen
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nuke1:
*bump*

This thread deserves not to die. Please, keep at it. When I saw the name of this thread, I was getting ready for a laugh as I didn't believe it. But it actually seems a possibility.

Keep it up, birkov10. You're the man, man. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Lord_BlackAdder:
So close, yet so far away:(

I love my Diamond. Only things missing are:

1. TV-OUT

2. Manila HD (stock tab)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] nuke1:
Your wish, my friend, has been fulfilled! :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=443777
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] uniqueboy:
Has anyone seen this thead on the raphael forum? There is a .cab someone extracted posted there.:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] hdzsound:
All people here try to swap dll and executable from other HTC phone. (Those manipulation IMO, can broke up your phone)Anyway,(keep trying)does someone know how Tv-Out work on other HTC device. Does we have some hardware tips. Someone got to have acess to broken HTC phon!?!??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Seifeddine:
HTC Diamond and TV out USB Cable

Guys I do have both the DIAMOND and the USB TV out cable. If you tell me what you want tested I am happy to crash test my DIAMOND.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] bmxmike:
I was just wondering is this TVOut using the Pro cab file? One of the problems might be that some of the dll's and other things are named differently,or possibly hardware names. Just wondering if the registry has been gone through to look at registry entries with the cable "Detected" from the people who are getting it and some of the entries add by the program
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Mstry4u:
What does the cradle have?

If the Diamond can do it through the cradle then look at the cradle hardware and break it down. Especially if the Pro and the Diamond have same everything else. Could it be a powered cradle or Host/Slave USB registration that kicks the function into gear. I'm about to buy and extra cradle to part into a portable form factor. My goal is to use the diamond as the basis for wrist communicator with video out to MicroOptics heads up display, then pair with Bluetooth QWERTY thumb keyboard and not only do you have the best watch phone ever, because you can take it out and use it for a phone, but I can access Echolink on my main Puter through Logmein.com and control a Ametur Radio Node at home, all from my watch/diamond. APRS/GPS on my wrist! Now that would be badass!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Chatty:
Who said it works with cradle?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Mstry4u:
Ok how about this

What if you use the USB Host (which does exist now) to hook up a SDIO card reader then use a SDIO video card to video?:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] avantime:
Thank you! I`ll buy the necessary components. Hope it works!

one question tho`... how do you charge the phone while connected to the sdio card reader?... I want to connect my phone to my car`s 7' LCD display in order to see gps directions. In gps mode the diamond doesn`t last very long...

where did you see that the usb host function works? Do you have a link?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mancukya:
Raphael was as different as if Diamond watch program as MyMobiler WebCamera or more we can have a TV-out.

you just need good drivers and good program even as Diamond is not compatible can be output tv-out.

with talented programmer xda. I'm sure you can get.

it may be that lightning does not only copy of Raphael and just for diamond.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Noonski:
The Saga Continues.

Looks like most that needed to be tried has been looked at.

I will need a Cable first to play with My T-Pro.

Read up a bit.

Still some more to explore but maybe i overlooked it in the hasted reading.

1. Check the mentioned OEMmisc.dll files for other file dependencies.

2. Check the Mentioned Files for other Registy settings still missing from the already found registries.

(missing a few extra Regs)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TVOutSetting]

"HiddenConnectSel"=dword:00000001

Tahoma??

SysLangMUI??

DisablePopUp??

UITVMode?? (?? don't know if these are Dwords and which values these should be)

3. RegDump before ever using the TV out on a Pro and RegDump after just incase to make sure no extra registries are being overseen.

4. Compare the Lower intestines of the Diamond Drivers and DLL's (H2W_ACCESSORY.dll & OEM_misc_raphael.dll) and perform a LP while we are at it. (no more House MD for me Tonight)

5. Anyone Cooked the Files Yet?

Also this thread belongs more in the Rom Dev Thread, So i moved.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rocky50:
some good news?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xerxesb:
<bump />

has anyone with a cable and diamond had luck with this? following with interest.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] charly_mx:
Why would anyone use the diamond as a TV out??? :( With what purpose???? :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] XavierGr:
For the same that the Touch Pro has.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] AngelGR:
Mainly for view pictures on your TV, or for use it as portable video player.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xerxesb:
yep - i was hoping i could use it as a poor-man's portable media centre
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Scenicview:
I use for Powerpoint presentations using a tV instead of a projector.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Sergio PC:
Naaa hes just joking. Not really serious.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] AngelGR:
Don't lie, a poor-man doesn't have a Diamond. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xerxesb:
That's half-true. ;) If I were richer, I'd have bought the Touch HD and wouldn't be having this discussion

in any event, given that there have been a number of responses i'm guessing that people are still interested in whether there has been progress since last year.

hopefully someone will enlighten soon :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] leomandelbrot:
any news???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] GriFolle:
Evenif this thread seems to be locked to a "no way point", I'm always pretty sure that (if some "guru" contiues to work on it) it's possible to let the tv-out to work.

So: why don't we make a "REWARD" on this project? If we are a lot to do this maybe someone will be encouraged to work on this development...

I assicure my support donation...and you?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xerxesb:
agreed - i'm happy to donate for this purpose.....hell, i'm also a dev so i'm happy to try and help if i could get my hands on the cable!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Lord_BlackAdder:
Me too. I am happy to donate as I think this is the only missing feature for Diamond, now that I have the Manila HD with stock tab from CT's ROM. BTW, the Touch HD doesn't have TV-OUT feature either. Only the Touch Pro has it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Noonski:
Cable's been out of stock for a while.

Want it anyway for my Pro and love to do some testing with all that's been tried and documented here so far.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] solidkundi:
bump..any updates...

i have one question....

what if you install the Diamond ROM on the Touch PRO...and see if the tv out doesn't work...

i think that could confirm that its a software /hardware related issue...

my bad if someone else already proposed that!!!

Thnx

looking forward to a possible Tv-out for Diamond
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] rmkeizer:
donate

i am willing to donate 20 euro for a working tv out
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Noonski:
There all out of stock.

I did a bid on one on Marktplaats but haven't seen response.

And Expansys charges way to much shipping costs here in NL.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ThoughtForm:
I should have read this thread before buying the "HTC Touch Pro TV Out Cable (HTC-TVOC-D10)" from Clove :p

Diamond Rom Version: Standard 1.93.405.1 WWE

Cable: Mini USB to Composite

TV out status: Non functional

On cable insertion into Diamond: nothing happens :o

Haven't installed the 2.03.405.2 standard rom update yet though
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Noonski:
the 2.03 won't bring it either.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] elhamd:
Hi,

I want also donate some money if it works.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] G0G0:
+1

I'm French ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] -=IRoN=-:
+1 i really love to show that feature working ...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] GriFolle:
obiouvsly:

+1 here in Italy

;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] qtek_metanol:
Hi people,

you should be carefully with donations for projects which probably never be fully done or are not viable, i still remember some people around who collected some money to develope improved grafic drivers for the HTC Touch Cruise & Kaiser, and the drivers were a flop.

The HTC diamond has no video-out capability

Metanol
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Chatty:
I'm not as pessimistic as you are about its capability, qtek_metanol. When ppl@android get TV out working on Raphael we'll see whether it's only a driver issue or a hardware issue.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
i got the cable out from my friend and i will properly integrate the raphael drivers. if tv-out is possible on diamond we know this evening :D stay tuned
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] qtek_metanol:
I'm not pesimist Chatty, i'm just warning the people here, because sometimes many of them are victims of some users who are looking for easy preys just to rip them off

I don't know what you mean with ppl@android but TV-Out is a standard function for the HTC Diamond Pro:

http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro/specification.html

Metanol
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Noonski:
That's going to save me a weekend of going out and making a jerk out of myself Shocking Girls With Some Nasty truths.

Because i'm getting my Cable tomorrow and it would be nice if this would if possible would work on Diamond to.

So strength tonight with switching around the H2W_ACCESSORY.dll and from both the Pro and HD into the Diamond and getting it to boot. But don't lose your Job over it Staying up way to Late ;).

So no sarcasm here, save my Weekend so i can hunt down a SoulMate with Brains (and hopefully no aversion to Windows Mobile), instead of staying home breaking my head over this.

But if you need testing or help to do some test to make life easier for you, you know where to find me, love to help where i can.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
Thanks mate for your offer. Here is what i have so far:

for people who like testing here is http://diamond.geg0r.de/index.php?dir=Alphazero/V3/ AZTOR V3 has properly integrated drivers even the (customization part does sometimes not run through) its properly integrated. It seems hopeless to continue trying on this to get it work.

The result is even with properly integrated drivers tvout is not working on diamond. I dont think there is anything we can do. THe only driver we have for it does not work. Maybe there are pins cut on the hardware mainboard of the diamond. I only share my experience but feel free to work on it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Chatty:
I second that.

I meant people working on android because when we've got a working linux driver for Raphael we can test it on Diamond. Current Windows Mobile driver might have some code checks whether used on the right platform.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] qtek_metanol:
I insist that the Diamond Pro owns a chip for the TV-output at the second PCB (keyboard part), I can not believe that HTC deactivate this TV-Out function on the Diamond and Touch HD, which use similar boards and processor platforms that the Diamond Pro (Qualcomm® MSM 7201A™) just for fun, far from it! because with it, they could increase not only the price but also the volume of sales.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
QUALCOMM 7200 chipset :

http://diamond.forumotion.net/forum-f1/topic-t123.htm?highlight=chipset
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
sorry but the diamond uses QUALCOMM(R) 7201A or did i miss something ? :D

whats your point showing us the 7200 specs ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
Yes, Diamond has 7201A but I have not picture for it. But I think, they are nearly similary.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] XavierGr:
There is no doubt that TV-out is integrated on the Qualcomm SoC, but there is no proof that HTC didn't just omit to connect it to physical wires.

I am guessing it was a licensing issue. They didn't connect it to save money.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1058624
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Chatty:
@riki1: What is that other useless thread for? Why did you link it here?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
Is here anybody who know somethings about program which is described in my link ?

It will be very near to software version of TV OUT (PC out).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] crucytor:
I think he means My MobileR
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] qtek_metanol:
you should better stop writting on this theme, there's not TV-OUT
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
Thank you very much .
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alexanir:
you never know....

the hope dies always at he end
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] okokur:
hello,

touch pro and diamond have the same processor.

if somebody can upload a picture with 7201A like some threads above,

i will to check, if there is a difference from unit to mini-usb.

okokur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Sergio PC:
Maybe this will help

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=413940

Greets.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] okokur:
thank you for link.

i looked for "block diagram" and find a little bit infos,

but the best think could be helped by infos like

"unit 7201a pin 32 - for tv out .. pin 33 - for color laser printer A3 with endless paper (hahaha)"

but cant find with so much details. so the searching is going on ...

okokur
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] torrentulla:
here is one good example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnABOFkJZw

Personally I think both devices have hardware difference. If its just a software we could have seen software for this purpose long time ago for devices like tytn II & similar others
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] MrBasiri:
hay My MobileR is pretty good. except it slooooooooowww.... Isn't there any possibility to use there app to create something whit it?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
http://www.semiconductor.com/resources/reports_database/view_device.asp?sinumber=20278
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] uniqueboy:
From Raph forum

I don't suppose it will make a blind bit of difference, but has anyone with the appropriate hardware had a look at this development?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
This development is only the programn which start TVOUT , if you have not original TVOUT cable (this cable start TVOUT automaticaly).

But we, on Diamond , have not TVOUT device, and we need some ".dll" which load this device (TVOUT) into memory and run it.

We tryed some ".dll" from Touch PRO, but it is impossible use in Diamond, because for hardware difference .
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] mirogster:
So You mean : There's NO HOPE???!?!?!?!?:eek::eek::eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] founti:
NOOOOOOOOO

if the TV-Out would work the diamond would be simply AWESOME....

ok its still awesome without it, but with a tv out...damn....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ronenpg:
nueTVOut

What do you think about this one ?

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueTVOut.aspx
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] uniqueboy:
It looks just like the app in the link I posted a bit back, so I guess it can't help us.:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djfuego:
No hardware for TV out

The original Diamond Hardware is not capable of TV output. If it was then we would all be plugging into the TV by now.

Can this thread be locked?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] xiho:
What is this?????

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22025
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Chatty:
Have a look at the reviews... doesn't work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] riki1:
very interesting, but it is for P3702 (not for P3700) , but I think TVOUT function will not work on Diamond, only charging and Sync.

But you can try it, may by, it will work .....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] :
Here is the list of functions in OEM_Misc.dll both HD and Diamond:

Also has references to WiMAX!!

Only thing is that they have not enabled the TV out calls (see the end of the list). And without documentation it's difficult to do anything anyway :rolleyes:.

DEX_Close

DEX_Deinit

DEX_IOControl

DEX_Init

DEX_Open

DEX_PowerDown

DEX_PowerUp

DEX_Read

DEX_Seek

DEX_Write

I2C_Close

I2C_Deinit

I2C_IOControl

I2C_Init

I2C_Open

I2C_PowerDown

I2C_PowerUp

I2C_Read

I2C_Seek

I2C_Write

HTC_Close

HTC_Deinit

HTC_IOControl

HTC_Init

HTC_Open

HTC_PowerDown

HTC_PowerUp

HTC_Read

HTC_Seek

HTC_Write

MIS_Close

MIS_Deinit

MIS_IOControl

MIS_Init

MIS_Open

MIS_PowerDown

MIS_PowerUp

MIS_Read

MIS_Seek

MIS_Write

TVO_Close

TVO_Deinit

TVO_IOControl

TVO_Init

TVO_Open

TVO_PowerDown

TVO_PowerUp

TVO_Read

TVO_Seek

TVO_Write

BTW take a look at this; can't make out much - Chinese site
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] tompjack:
TVOUT.cab

hi

i got a cable and i connected it to my HTC Diamond but the audio on 3.5mm and the RCA white and red is comming fine. Still i dont have the video out i try one of the cab from

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=28014&d=1238555000

but nothing happened. do u have anything to test now. i mean any other cab files
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duall:
this thread dead :) ?

and lol :(

I WAS ABOUT to buy this ..

http://smggsm.com/ac-t110-tv-out-cable-for-htc-touch-pro-and-htc-touch-diamond.html

but I saw this thread =/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djfuego:
Read my text

I'm amazed you didn't read the thread first, there by saving the time wasted serching for the cable.

It's a shame you didn't buy the cable then read this thread.

The original Touch Diamond will never support TV out. Although you can run the software.

There is no hardware to output a TV signal.

The cable doesn't magically allow the diamond to output a Video signal in the same way copying my Windows 7 partition to the phone won't magically make it run directly on the phone.

ONLY the Touch Pro (the Diamond with the keyboard) will output to the tv.

Can some-one stop flogging the dead horse and lock this thread.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Chatty:
That's not entirely true. Did HTC advertise its TMC feature? No. Does it work? Yes. Got it?

You haven't given any proof what the Diamond misses in terms of hardware. You can only say it doesn't work right now.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duall:
as I read the thread it seems that noone proven that it exists, anyways noone proved that it DOES NOT!

btw: how many devs that has cables tried runing it on their own devices?

zero ?

so how can you prove that it does not exist?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] juddrl:
maybe if someone would say "the wiz doo dad piece of hardware that's in the pro is not included in the diamond hardware" that would end it. But I haven't seen that yet.

Having said that, I agree that one of the developers on here would have figured it out now if it were possible.

Only reason I have a touch pro over the diamond is because of this feature. I don't use the keyboard much but I get "big" (9") navigation and TV in my car with slingplayer.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] zooster:
Would any gentlman explain me for god's sake where the hell is the difference in the hardware of Diamond and pro? Technically and specifically... maybe some pin not soldered, some track missing.. because I think that the chip is the same, exactly the same.

I think that an hardware difference would be easier to make up, 'cause I would fix it :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duall:
well you dont have to buy an expensive cable for testing..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=496392
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Il_Simo:
is there any news?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duall:
nope prob. something soldered in so you can't use it...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] djfuego:
Ask htc

HTC made the phones.

It quite clearly states on their site the spec of the diamond.

If it could output to TV then don't you think it would say?

Touch Diamond

http://www.htc.com/uk/specification.aspx?p_id=133

Diamond PRO

http://www.htc.com/uk/specification.aspx?p_id=140
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duall:
marketing..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] whistler-nl:
My AMD Phenom II X2 BE says specificly it has 2 core's... I'm running that CPU using all 4 core's (the trick to unlock the other cores did'nt come from AMD for sure)... Not everything is exactly what is printed on the package (or site) so it does'nt rule out the possibility the hardware actually being able to output video.

Just treat this like it aint possible untill proven otherwise.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] leonatan25:
Yeah, if it was for the specifications on the site, we'd be running TouchFlo 1 on our devices, pfft. :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] sj2009:
HTC Touch Diamond TV Out

Hello,

Can anyone tell me if the TV out feature is enabled in the SPRINT HTC TOUCH DIAMOND phone? what cable to do I need for it. Your help is appreciated.

much appreciated...

Taha
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Tortel:
You could have read some of the previous posts...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] TarKin:
i did!!! :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] brium13:
New ? :):):)