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[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] johnny13oi:
I just found this pretty good walk through using that adapter and the 3.5mm adapter that the TP is supposed to come with. I will not get my Touch Pro (Fuze) until tomorrow and will definitely try this out. I am still trying to figure out why he did some of the pin arangements like he did, but I am sure once I open it up I will figure out on my own where those pins should go. Basically, it depends on what 3.5mm to video cable you have and you have to change your pin arrangements accordingly. I have one that was made for an IPOD VIDEO and might wire it according to that or try something different.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482023#post482023

If you are looking for 3.5mm to video cable, you can try ebay or monoprice.com. I regularly shop at monoprice.com for my hdmi cables and they are pretty cheap there. Wall mounts for TV are super cheap there too if you are in the US.

Here is a link to one to get you started and they have the pin arrangements too beforehand so you can wire yours to that if you wish.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...d=1024102&p_id=2752&seq=1&format=1#largeimage

Tip = Video

Ring = Left

Ring = Right

Sleeve = Ground

I am including an image that has pinouts of other 3.5mm to video cables to help anyone wire theirs correctly:

Good luck, I am probably going to wait for a cheap 3.5mm to video out cable somewhere before I begin my construction. Don't have any money right now.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Praygo:
Forgive my ingnorance, Im not sure what your going to do with this cable? Are you going to plug this into the 3.5mm female jack of the multiport adapter that came with the TOUCH pro? What are you going to have to do to the plug? Are you opening up the Adapter? Or are you going to gride the 3.5mm tip like Nethopper did?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Praygo:
I DID IT! Using HTC genuine 2-1 cable

Decided to grow a pair and just start making the cable. I snipped all the wires on the extUSB side of the adapter and touched them until they worked. Charging cable works while your in TV OUT mode! SWEET! I just need to modify the plastic case to keep the wires in the plastic. I'll post what wires connect to what later!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] TurboX2:
okay.. so from my understanding, the Ground connector is not Nessisary for this hack to work... in other words, wouldnt this be easily possible to accomplish just by forcing video out from the adaptor so that a regular cable can be connnected?? This would be Dremel Free, and a lot safer for those who have never used a dremel. lol

I think someone should be able to develop this easily~
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herculese1:
i called htc

htc told me to go here: http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=170917

21 bucks isnt too bad for it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Praygo:
I think they are on backorder for a while. I couldnt wait so I made my own. :) I spent $0 since I had all the cables/hardware.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herculese1:
yea def

make it if u can but if you cant then they said it will be at my door within 14 days
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] yzf750:
Yeah right :)

I ordered one on nov 10th. I have called and emailed Expansys multiple times about it. They never return emails, the person i talked to today said they have 5 people that handle emails and they just dont have the time to reply to them all. Look at there website today...20 tv out cables in stock, ships in 3 business days it says. BS. I just got off the phone with them again and they have 1800 plus back orders on this item and NONE in stock..ZERO. They *MAY* receive 400 on Monday he said and all will go to orders before my order date ot the 10th of Nov. even.

They are a bunch of liars. Period. I talked for 20 minutes with the manager via phone today. His excuse is they have no control over the website really as to updating correct counts on stuff (well then dont post fictionus numbers). He said mine has no confirmed date yet from the order on the 10th either. I may not get it till Jan. he confirmed also.

I told him why not put up 1800 on backorder, your chances of getting one before years end is like winning the lottery on the website. I dont think he liked that :) Sorry but my patience is gone with Expansys and they way they run their business.

Sad part is Expansys is the only one that carries the HTC cable for tv out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] johnny13oi:
If anyone needs these right away and doesn't know how, I could probably make these for $15 for you. Obviously I assume no responsibility if something happens with your handset but this is pretty easy to make.

Here are the instructions on how to make one:

Get a 2 in 1 charging adapter like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-in-1-CHARGING...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318

And then pry it open. Unsolder all wires going to the ExtUSB side and unsolder the ExtUSB socket too to make room for the cables that are going to the TV. The board is labeled 5-11 for the pin connections on the ExtUSB side. Oh and leave the 5 connection alone, that is the ground.

Then solder the connections like this:

Solder the wire that was in the 8 position to the ground at 5.

Solder the wire that was in the 6 position to video signal line.

Solder video ground to 5.

Solder the wire that was in the 7 position to the right speaker signal.

Solder the wire that was in the 11 position to the left speaker signal.

Solder the audio grounds to the wire that was in the 10 position.

Then you should be good. good luck.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] ribcage:
Link to buy cable in Germany

In case anyone's interested, this isn't too bad a price and he's got 28 available. I went for it... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Touch-Pro...14&_trkparms=72:1301|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Bertolli:
TV-out cable for people from Holland

Hey, TV-out cable for the HTC Touch Pro for people from the Netherlands at www.marktplaats.nl and look for 'HTC TV out', just €21,90 :). Already ordered one :).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herculese1:
hmm

well when i ordered it the other day i called them and the guy told me they have them in stock but not in the US. He said there were 700 on backorder. he told me that in about 2 weeks i should have it. well c
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herculese1:
just got an email today saying the shipped my order. looks like there keeping there word.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] norkoastal:
Expansys

Order placed 11/26

Shipped Sunday, November 30, 2008

Item Qty

Ordered Qty

Shipped Status

HTC Raphael TV Out Cable AC T110 1 1 Item Shipped

Woo hoo.. Too bad I already made my own cable :-)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] pajaa:
Hi,

because I don't know Dutch and can't find email to contact them will you be so kind to help me.

Regards
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] johnny13oi:
Man I get a flicker every second on some TVs. I think it has to do with the Video sense sending out a signal possibly every second causing the video to flicker. I ran the video sense to the same ground as the video out ground. Should I have ground the video sense with the audio ground? I kept the audio out ground seperate from the video out ground. Which ground should serve as the video out ground? Should I use the cable shielding as the video out ground?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herculese1:
it came in

Got mine today and it works great. got it here: http://www.expansys-usa.com and got it in a week. im a very happy person right now! :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] TweakMyDevice:
Man I'm jealous! I just ordered one from them several days ago and they sent back an email saying the cable is on backorder from the manufacturer until the end of Dec or first of Jan. They proceeded to tell me about their version of the cable...but it doesn't have a port to connect a charging cable while you output A/V. O well, guess I'll just wait.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] diomark:
I actually ended up purchasing two video-out cables from expansys - so have one for sale - $30 shipped (US). PM me if you would like it. (it's the actual HTC cable, with a charge-in port)

-mark
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] norkoastal:
Expansys

Order placed 11/26

got mine yesterday
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] cparkhorn:
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2460

Ordered from here and it is on the way to the US, hope it works, but if others are looking it may be worth checking this place out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] eami:
oh man, that is quite expensive...

Check this:

http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02987

$16 and free shipping ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] bobkata:
this cable doesn`t have charging port :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Kraize:
Ok. I'm retarded. I've spent 10 minutes trying to open this up:

Anyone wanna kindly tell me how to pry this thing open without breaking it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] whiteblazer01:
I'm getting mixed information here. Does this mod need a ground or not? I did the notch in the correct area on the cable, and the phone asks me if I want NTSC or PAL, but once displayed on the tv, it's very fuzzy. I of course selected NTSC (as that is what I have), but do I need to ground it?

What is that mini USB plug being used for in the pic??!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] pazookie:
Created this one

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482023#post482023

by re-wiring the 2in1 adapter that came with my tilt and then plugging the fuze dapter into it and it works!.. i do get a very LOW humming but i think that is normal..video is very blurry but im sure thats due to the resolution differences....i have a sharp 19inch 720 p tv...and why would anyone want to watch videos like this?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] pazookie:
an with that one that you dremmel..couldnt you just tape that section? or somehow stop continuity?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] hopper13:
Can someone please confirm that an external ground connection is not needed, only the dremel procedure? Also, is the blurry video a condition of the home-made cable or is it the same with the OEM cable?

TIA,

Richard
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Klong4:
i opened it woth a razor blade by wedging it in between the two halves tilting up. it was easy
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] hopper13:
Very cool. Got my $6 video cable (from ebay) today and in 1 minute did the "Dremel mod" and was up and running with TV out. Video is a bit fuzzy, but I think that's just a resolution issue. There is also a minor hum in the background. Is this present with the OEM cable as well or is this a grounding issue?

Thanks again!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] whiteblazer01:
The OEM cable works flawlessly, I don't hear any buzzing at all. It must be a grounding issue.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] FT5117:
Thanks for the idea!

Quick and simple TV-out cable using the included HTC adapter...

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5638/tvoutcable2mz5.jpg
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] gbueh:
Talk about cheap... Just buy the right cable for tv out. It was designed for that purpose. to use anything else would be substandard. Or a contraption of ugliness... I will just buy the tv out but really why bother.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] FT5117:
gbueh, thank you for offering such excellent feedback, but I think you missed the point the nethopper was trying to make... such as: no damage or modification to the original adapter, earphone jacks remain fully functional, and people are able to enjoy video playback without having to wait for a week or monthlong shipment. There's nothing substandard about using one's skills to create something and share such quality information with the rest of us. Some people actually enjoy their sense of accomplishment. :) I certainly appreciate the O.P.'s effort, because it led me to my more "substandard" mod. What does it matter if it's a "contraption of ugliness" when it's something you use at home, in the car, or at work? Let's I were to go with your High Standards and the a/v cables, I'd still have to get a splitter adapter so I can plug in the charger. My mod allows me to use the TV out and plug in the charger at the same time. It's necessary for watching lenthy movies or listening to podcasts on 6 hour road trips. Hope this helps you better understand the point of this thread. If you have a better solution, then please feel free to contribute... we're all ears!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] tprime76:
I am really only a lurker on this board because I don't have the knowhow to contribute, but isn't the point behind the whole xda-developers site to be supergeek? I like the fact that people take things that aren't supposed to work and find ways to make them work; doing this prolonged the life of my PPC6700 and helping to make my CDMA Diamond a lot more fun. No one said that you had to use their cable. I really just enjoy watching the POSITIVE collaboration that this community promomotes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] bigleroy:
buenos señores les comento que hice el cable con un manos libre de kaiser, tal cual como se muestra en la foto, y funciono perfectamente, no hace falta conectar el pin A, sola mente como se muestra en la figura, el pin numero 4 se lo elimine con un alfilert..... EL CABLE FUNCIONA PERFECTAMENTE .......

Good Lord, I commented that the cable with a hands-free kaiser, as it is shown in the photo, and it worked perfectly, no need to connect the pin A single mind as shown in the figure, the pin number 4 remove with a alfilert ..... CABLE perfect job...	CABLE WORKS PERFECTLY .......
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] bigleroy:
Corrected image ....
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] ElBorba:
Rather than get the TV out I'm going to just use my fresnel lense to make the screen on the Raph REALLY HUGE! :)

SAWEET!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] elblon:
excelent......fine
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] 2real4u:
I've read through the whole thread and still have a question.

It looks like OEM cable users report crystal clear picture and no humming, while homemade cables produce artifacts. Is this due to the lack of proper shielding, or is it a ground issue?

Can someone with an OEM cable and a multimeter post a correct OEM pin-out?

Or is the pin-out in post #7 the OEM pinout?

Another question.. am I correct that it's impossible to have handsfree and tv-out operating simultaneously?

BTW, I've bought some ExtUSB connectors from sparkfun.com

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9078

podgizmo even has a breakout version for a little extra

http://www.podgizmo.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=30

The reason I need a custom cable is because I'm integrating the phone into my car. Charging, video and audio is a must. If I can use the car's built-in mic, it's even better.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
The video cable has also some LC filters built in for impedance matching and frequency cut-off. I suggest to get the cable... but even then, "crystal clear" are not the words I would select to describe the picture...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] 2real4u:
does anyone have inductance and capacitance values for the filters in use on OEM cable? as I've sad, I'm doing a custom integration into the car, so the oem cable wouldn't work for me even if i splice into it because of the ergonomicts
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
OK, maybe I'm missing the point, but if you go through the trouble of doing a 'custom integration', there must be money in the budget to buy the original cable. Then you may open the connector and either unsolder the parts and solder them back into your circuit or you may just put the PCB in a different housing... But measuring out L and C values without unsoldering is a lost game...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] UA3BL:
I have bought AC T110 for HTC Touch HD but the A/V output does not work. Shall I have all those connections in the 3,5 jack in addition to the cabel?:confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] 2real4u:
I realize that measuring values from components while still on pcb will not work. I doubt that there are many people that have a hot air rework workstation and measuring tweezers to do that. However if the components are not surface mount, one can read the values from the components.

Can someone open the black box on T110 cable and verify that it really contains electronic components and is not just a pcb mount for connectors? A picture will be very helpful.

I'm doing my project for myself, I'm not planning to release it commercially. Thus, being a hobby project it has a limited budget that keeps stretching way to often. I'd like to avoid making unnecessary purchases to keep the cost of my hobby to minimum, especially since I already have ext-miniusb connectors.

UA3BL, afaik, Touch HD does not have TV out capability. But you can do me a favor and take a pic of the internals of your T110 box that has connectors on it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] UA3BL:
2real4u thanks anyway in spite the fact that I got dissapointed with having no A/V output in my HTC Touch HD.:o On the other hand it's strange because HD is the last model of HTC. Isn't it a step back in comparison with the previous models? But deep in my heart (better say brain) I believe that there is a A/V output in HD but it is somewhere hidden. I'll try to use Tweaker or some other programms to clear up the matter.

As for the cord AC T110 I'll open it just now and tell you what inside there is.;)

73!

ps 2real4u! Sorry I can't do that just now. I'm going to hand it back to the shop. If they refuse then I'll perform the operation
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] UA3BL:
GA julianfong,

Could you tell me what the name of your cabel is?

I've bought AC T110 for HTC Touch PRO for 50$. The sellar assured me that it works with all HTC mobile products but I see it does not.:confused:

Tks
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] 2real4u:
I have successfully made a cable using HTC ExtUSB Connector

The cable is properly detected as a video cable. It charges the phone, plays video and audio in excellent quality without any LC filters (I guess all the required filters are built into the phone). Here is the pinout that I've used:

A - Ground for charger, video and audio

B - Connected to A to tell the phone that the charger provides 1 amp (as opposed to 500mA)

C - Not connected

D - Not connected

E - DC +5V 1000mA

1 - Video out

2 - Audio Right

3 - Connected to 5

4 - Not connected

5 - Connected to 3

6 - Audio Left

Connector body - Cable Shield

As you can see, I'm taking ground for video and audio from Digital Ground (Pin A) and I'm not seeing any artifacts or audio noise.

For pin reference see post 19

Now I can use my Fuze to play videos through the built-in navi screen in my car while the phone is charging. I can also take calls - the call audio is sent to the car, while Fuze in using the built-in mic in hands-free mode.

Thanks for help everyone!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] UA3BL:
Are you talking about HTC Touch HD?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] angelofhope:
I'm wondering what this 1 Amp Charging sense is/does. Should this be connected to the ground when you want to charge at 1 amp and if it is connected to ground with a weaker power supply, will that give any problems?

I'm not looking to make a video cabe right now, just thinking about a small mod to my 3.5mm connector to be able to switch the headset sense with a switch, just to limit loose cables in my car when not connecting the phone to the stereo. In the meantime I will always charge my phone while driving and want this done the best way... just a little background :)
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Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the HTC Desire 20 Pro's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Rate this thread to express how you think the HTC Desire 20 Pro feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

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[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] jcespi2005:
Post Reserved
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JugglerLKR:
[UPDATE 18-sep-08] Raphael ROM Kitchen

Here goes "old fashioned" kitchen, functional as well as above one, you can choose the interface you want to use.

Raphael ROM Kitchen - "just in case" edition.

It is slightly modified and updated well known Diamond/Kaiser ROM Kitchen to work with Raphael.

First backup everything and read "!!!readmefirst!!!.txt".

Thanks goes to

bepe

cmonex

dark simpson

itsme

jcespi2005

jugglerlkr

mamaich

olipro

pof

tadzio

theblasphemer

udk

and many others I forgot to mention...

http://rapidshare.com/files/133787810/JugglerLKR_Raphael_ROM_Kitchen_v0.5.rar

mirror:

http://vidmes.com/xda/raphael/Kitchens/JugglerLKR/JugglerLKR_Raphael_ROM_Kitchen_v0.5.rar

thanx TehPenguin!

remember, you need to flash developer edition unsigned HardSPL first:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=410150

p.s.: please test this kitchen on real devices and leave some feedback

p.p.s.: customruu.exe in this kitchen reported false positive by some anitviruses

thanx mrvanx & walshieau for reporting it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] walshieau:
yes, though custom RUU "should" be fine
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JugglerLKR:
please test updated Raphael kitchen on real devices and leave some feedback. but remember, that you need unsigned developer edition HardSPL - look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=410150

and some base rom here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=410305
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrvanx:
The customRUU in this kitchen MIGHT show up in AVG as a trojan dropper. Got assurance it is ok however.

Pain in the arse is you gotta disable AVG if you wanna run it, URGH!
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] walshieau:
i can also confirm and backup MrVanx! the CustomRUU "drops" the files outside of the exe, which can be seen as a Trojan File Dropper for people using AVG.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] JugglerLKR:
thanx, updated first post (i don't use avg)
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] kkjjkkk:
is this a ROM of Raphael or just RUU.thanx
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] mrvanx:
Its a ROM Kitchen, to help develop ROMs. You need a ROM build like the ones posted here or a dump of your current ROM to make it work.
[Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development] TehPenguin:
Mirrored: http://vidmes.com/xda/raphael/Kitchens/JugglerLKR/JugglerLKR_Raphael_ROM_Kitchen_v0.5.rar

- Enjoy!