yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] basdorcha:
I had no issues unlocking the bootloader, and getting it ready for root, but now I'm stuck. Is there anyone who has advice on the next step?

Btw this phone sucks. I'm trying to find out if rooting it makes it worth it. If there's anyone more experienced with rooting (I've scratched myself this far) that wants me to try something shoot me a message. I've got the drivers, adb, fastboot, busy box and supersu ready to go. Hardest part is finding an exploit file and there's no twrpv recovery yet yet
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rslimitless:
I cant even get the bootloader unlocked. Help anyone?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlink00:
I came across this same phone. I'm trying to bypass the screen lock. I cant get it to boot into recovery by hardware keys. I have usb cable plugged in. I can only get fastboot menu to come up but I can't select it with power button or switch menus. Any ideas how to get into recovery?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FoxyFierceFeisty:
Use Mtkclient on Ubuntu 22. U can find it on github.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] sbi1:
Or sending and the other party not receiving it?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] StoneyJSG:
They were experiencing a massive outage, not sure if it's fix now though.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] x_JoM_x:
Can someone pls. direct me to the choices of the best WM5 to get for my dopod 900. I know WM6 exists, but I needed full functionality. Please help me. Thanks a lot
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] orb3000:
READ the Wiki, you will find there all you need
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] x_JoM_x:
I did read the wiki. It has links for WM6 not cooked WM5. Anyone who can help? Why not just cook WM5 instead of WM6?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] orb3000:
Mybe you did not read well, in the Wiky there is a link called: Available Original Shipped ROM Versions on the universals section, so you click there and you will find at least 7 original wm5 ROM´s

(Remember that there is no wm6 or wm6.1 developed in original by manufacters for our uni´s or I´m mistaken masters?)

Any way good luck
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] x_JoM_x:
So I see, I was pertaining to cooked WM5. But I think, I havent mentioned it earlier. Thanks for replying in my queries. I am now trying rdosti's Shivam310.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] orb3000:
Ohh, you should mentioned before. In that case check this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=409966

Cheers
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] x_JoM_x:
yep I tried that but found something else here at the forums... I think I like this one better

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=376771

Again, thanks for the replies
[OPPO Find X2 Pro Questions & Answers] koloure2211:
Hello,

I need to ask what is the ringtone, notification tone volume lik?

I have poor hearing, (not deaf?) so this is very important to me, at least.

Thank you in advance.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bigcletus:
I was using an AOSP rom for several months but decided to roll back to my stock oreo rom backup in TWRP. Only issue is my VoLTE is not working anymore during calls. I am on Oreo (H93220s) and never updated to stock PIE.

Is there an easy way to flash a modem or something without having to completely start from scratch? I found a 20r modem in one of the T-Mobile threads, but not sure if I should flash that on 20s. Thanks for any help.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] TheDannemand:
Of course verify you have an LTE connection. I am sorry, just making sure :angel:

Then try a Network settings reset, if you haven't already: Settings -> General -> Reset -> Network settings reset. Then restart the phone.

If that doesn't work, you could try re-loading IMS settings using the LG Hidden menu: Dial *#546368#*932# using the stock dialer -> Field Test -> IMS Setting -> Test -> Load Preset Configuration -> Initialize Configuration. Then back out twice to Field Test -> IMS Setting -> Test -> Restart IMS process. Give it a few minutes.

If that doesn't work, then I'd say probably some firmware wasn't restored to stock after using the custom ROM. Try flashing [MENTION=9374982]weakNPCdotCom[/MENTION]'s FullStock.zip from the thread linked below, factory wipe in TWRP. Once you've verified VoLTE works, restore just the data from your TWRP stock backup.

[STOCK] [H932] [20s] [Oreo] T-Mobile LG V30 Stock Collection (Includes Debloated)

https://xdaforums.com/lg-v30/development/stock-t-mobile-lg-v30-stock-collection-t3917560

Finally, if that doesn't do it either, you may have to perform a genuine Factory Data Reset from the Android Settings menu. This wipes some persistent data which isn't wiped by TWRP nor by Master Reset. It requires stock recovery, so you will lose TWRP. Personally I would perform a full flash of stock 20s using LGUP in Refurbish Mode. This will also ensure that all necessary TMO partitions are flashed.

I suppose you could flash TWRP to your laf partition (as described in the H932 root thread) then flash 20s in Partition DL mode, everything BUT laf. That way you wouldn't have to start over rooting the phone.

My only concern is that H932 is easily disturbed, sometimes with bad consequences. Being kind of OCD, I would probably go nuclear if it came to this, meaning full Partition DL to 10d (to ensure partitions are straightened out), THEN partition DL to 20s, THEN Factory Reset, verify that VoLTE is working. Then you'll have to start over rooting, including temporarily back to 10d again. But that's just me :D

Once you got it working and are back on 20s, THEN you can restore just the data from your TWRP stock backup. IOW restoring that backup is your last step.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bigcletus:
Thanks for the detailed tips. I have tried everything you mentioned so far, up to flashing the fullstock.zip, and unfortunately that still didn't fix it. I had this problem with another LG phone before, and the only way I could get it fixed was flashing a .KDZ, but I know this phone is a lot trickier considering the root method and all.

Am I able to flash a KDZ and not have it flash the LAF partition all over so I don't have to re-root it? Thanks again.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] TheDannemand:
Got it. Yeah you probably need a full firmware flash.

I think I misspoke in my last post: Of course you can't put TWRP on laf and then use LGUP. Duh :o

I can't really think of a way to do a full flash (incl recovery) without having to start over. I'm sorry.

Maybe there is a way that others can think of. I'm not my sharpest right this moment.

Edit: Just to make sure, you know your account and SIM are provisioned for VoLTE? And you're on TMO, right? H932 doesn't do VoLTE on other carriers (such as AT&T).

Edit2: If you haven't already gone nuclear, and assuming you're on 20s FullStock.zip, you could try flashing TWRP to laf (as previously discussed), then flash stock recovery to recovery -- if you can find stock recovery somewhere, either as an img or zip. Just make sure it's same version (20s). This should allow you to perform a Factory Reset from the Android Settings menu. If that solves VoLTE, you can use your laf-TWRP to put TWRP back on recovery and laf back on laf. (I hope that made sense.)

Again, I would go nuclear, but I can definitely understand if you want to avoid it. There are also risks when rooting H932, in addition to the work.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] bigcletus:
So I went through the whole process of flashing back to 10d and redoing root. Same issues. Then my wife tells me that T-Mobile is having network issues all over, even my Verizon phone was having calling issues. What a waste of time that caused me. It must have just been coincidence that the same day I start messing with my phone that the whole network goes down! Thanks again for the great suggetions though.:)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Caffination:
T-Mobile's having huge network issues at the moment.
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] ChazzMatt:
Sprint has infected them! ;)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] TheDannemand:
Aww man, I'm sorry you wasted all this time on nothing. Best I can come up with is congrats on successfully rooting your H932. Again! :rolleyes:
[Realme X2 Questions & Answers] timbo2567:
Hey,

I was tinkering with me phone the past days.

I managed to unlock the bootloader on my Realme X2, installed twrp and HavocOs with the COS Vendor.

Everything working fine and well. Then i wanted to back to the stock rom and i installed the stock recovery found in this page with fastboot:

https://xdaforums.com/realme-x2/how-to/to-stock-rom-howto-t4014773

Specifically the following one: "rmx1991-sde20-stock_recovery-c14.zip"

The problem is now that the phone is not booting anymore. It's not responding to volume down and power button to enter bootloader mode.

I only see the first Realme logo and then the screen goes black. When i hold volume button up and the power button, the phone reboots and i see the same Realme logo for a few seconds and after that the screen goes black again..

When i put the phone on the charger the screen stays black.

Thanks guys! I hope someone can help me solve this issue!

Does anyone have any clue what's going on and maybe willing to assist?

Edit 1: so I managed to get in to the bootloader again. When I hold power button and both volume buttons the phone restarts in bootloader mode. It's still unlocked. The strange part is that the phone stays in the bootloader mode for like 20 seconds and then just reboots. Any clues why and how I can prevent that?
[Realme X2 Questions & Answers] tohigh:
I just faced the same trouble, with your hint to boot into fastboot i flashed the twrp.
[Realme X2 Questions & Answers] amit199:
Can you please describe the process for bootloader unlock of rmx1991
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] AryanAA:
Thanks for the efforts you put in to bring Sailfish OS to our device. Good work! ??
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] hitesh96:
please make stable SailFish OS

i would like to use this ROM as Primary ROM
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] mayker05:
rootfs is missing... where can i find it.

i had it before and i misplaced it.

can anyone share the file with me
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Hybris17 is almost ready. I'll re-port 5z on top of lineage17/hybris17 in hope of getting modem fixed. If the modem will turn out to be fixed i will push it forward as current hybris16 based port has only stereo and modem broken.

HEY ITS NOT DEAD OKAY
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] mayker05:
Cool, ping me when ready to test
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vivek Garg 001:
If this hybris17 is not a android rom like havoc or bliss.

Then I am in for using it
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Hybris is library that Sailfishos uses to communicate with android side of things so it's still sailfishos just using newer android base, lineage 17 in this case
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vivek Garg 001:
How many basic things are not working currently????

I just need calls , camera and wifi to work properly and Android app support is there in this os ... So when it's ready just post it please
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] alwinbernat:
I'm requesting the developer to develop further more to best of sailfish for the device , I want to use sailfish as a daily driver
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
You can't request **** you don't own me :D

Anyway, i finally started making port based on lineage17.1/hybris17.1 lets see if i get sim to work
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
There is no android support.
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Currently what is blocking me is being unable to boot twrp at all so i cannot flash lineage 17.1 and therefore i cannot flash sfos. This device is such pita…
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Good news, since i got 17.1 to work, i also got port working on 17 base and mobile data (and probably calls too) are working! So now hopefully i will have 100% working port as now i only have camera left to fix. After that i will release it again
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yograjfire18:
grt news sar
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vivek Garg 001:
I am waiting for the release
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Camera even with wide angle is working fine, i'm just fixing recording. Fingerprint doesn't want to preserve fingerptints between reboots and actdead (charging off screen) is not working
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vivek Garg 001:
Will we be getting android app support???
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Ofcourse not, ports don't have android support
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
So i released the build because i was impatient. Instructions may sound difficult but if you know what you are doing then its pretty straightforward

Step 1 get provided lineage 17.1 installed on slot A

Step 2 make sure /data is unencrypted, format it

Step 3 flash sfos on slot A

Step 4 voila
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vivek Garg 001:
Quick question :- Can we use it like a proper linux distro like using linux apps and stuff????
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vivek Garg 001:
the link for lineage os 17.1 is not working....

its the link for stock image
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Ah true, thanks, fixed
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] dan41kxxd:
dont work touchscreen
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
works here
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] dan41kxxd:
send link to sailfish os and lineage where you work touch screen or give a video installation instruction
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
you wish
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] dan41kxxd:
yes, i wish. pls send video how to install. where can we contact?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] dan41kxxd:
not working-
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vexisu:
I wonder, will there be another update of SFOS for 5Z? For what I've read, your phone is kinda bricked. In that case, I can happily contribute by testing new builds (recently moved to new phone, sadly can't find a replacement battery, all knockoffs hold charge for 2-3h of SOT).
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vexisu:
I can confirm, touchscreen doesn't work on unofficial ROM. In the next few days I'll try to build latest LOS 17.1
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
I'm kinda hesitant to update it as its gonna be pain and 5z is my main phone.

also what do you mean unofficial rom? I specified which base you need to have installed
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Vexisu:
Oh, sorry, I didn't read it correctly. You used unofficial build. For some reason i thought You built SFOS on official, but uploaded unofficial, 'cause LOS removed 17.1 builds. In any case, touchscreen is broken. I've downgraded the recovery, formatted data storage, flashed LOS while beeing on slot B, then rebooted to slot A, flashed SFOS and hybris-boot.img. Could it be because of coming from higher Android version?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
maybe…? No clue, probably not
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Did you restore to stock version like i stated in instructions?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Made OTA to 4.5.0.19 enjoy (nobody is using it anyway)
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] dan41kxxd:
where we can contact?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] dan41kxxd:
i have a couple questions
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] mayker05:
Is Alien dalvik included?
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
obviously not
[Asus Zenfone 5Z  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Mister_Magister:
Discontinued.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] bob*nwk:
Hi,

I ordered some DBrand skins and currently have installed the Carbon Fiber - Black Carbon skin:. I also ordered the Black Leather skin but will keep this one on for a while.

I you have any others, please drop your pics in this topic.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] bob*nwk:
I installed the Black Leather skin. I personaly like this more than the Carbon Fiber one.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] darkluk:
teardown skin

Hi,

i have teardown skin on my phone.

View attachment 5058449
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Linuxkek:
From EU maybe you can ask https://www.xtremeskins.co.uk/ for F2 Pro skins.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Xtreme_Skins:
Your wish is our command. We'll be shipping our F2 Pro skins next week and you can place your pre-orders now :good:
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Xtreme_Skins:
Just to give you folks an update if you're still interested. Our Poco F2 Pro skins are now shipping! ;)

---------- Post added at 11:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:23 AM ----------

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[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] bob*nwk:
Great, thanks! I just emailed.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Linuxkek:
I'm just waiting for "buy one and get one for free" but it's only for Apple devices :/
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Xtreme_Skins:
Hi, our BOGOF applies to 'ALL' phone skins but no other devices and make sure to add 2 to your cart. Hope this helps.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] inneyeseakay:
Do you have f2 or k30? If f2, Can you post pics in the included clear case?
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] darkluk:
I have Poco F2, here you go.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Hunteres:
Just ordered 2 of your skins.... For poco....5 min a go...

Ireland

Will post back with review......one white...and one yellow... They aint cheap... But i hope they fit well...

Ed
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Xtreme_Skins:
Cheaper than our competition ;) Sounds like you've gone for our Textured Matts, great choice!
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] spychodelics:
Hey, do you see any problems with your skins when using a FitBAG with a microfiber "inlay"?
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] nullx8:
Can't find/use this offer. Is a coupon required?
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Xtreme_Skins:
That offer is only applicable on a certain day. May be worth following our socials to know when various offers are running.

---------- Post added at 08:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 AM ----------

No issues whatsoever. You'll be fine.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] iceman0826:
Is this compatible with K30 Pro Zoom?
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] bob*nwk:
I received 2 skins (Black Leather and Textured Matt Grey) from xtremeskins (thanks again!).

Since I planned to only installed the Black Leather to compare with the D-Brand one, I did first but on the other one.

Using the Textured Matt Grey for a couple of weeks now and I’m not disappointed. Great fit and quality, installation went fine as well.

This weekend I will put on the Black Leather one to compare with the D-Brand Black Leather (which I saved).
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] varefaz:
Dbrand skins for poco f2 pro are discontinued
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Ottoman98:
I noticed that too, but I wonder why are they discontinued.

I really liked their swarm skin for my previous phones and I can't find anything similar for the Poco F2 Pro on XtremeSkins.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] solnyshok:
how sticky/slippery (on the ouside) are xtremeskins? are they all the same or some are better (non slippery) than others? is textured matt black slippery or sticky?
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] nykola5:
The day before yesterday I received a generic skin bought on Aliexpress and I am quite satisfied, I chose the "Gosth Camo" and it has a holographic effect

Link: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001008352115.html?spm=2114.13010708.0.0.5b0a63c0QVZzys
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] Xtreme_Skins:
The majority of our skins are textured and some offer more grip than others. Our textured matts are amongst our best sellers.
[Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Accessories] gege0202:
hi, which model gives the most grip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trenwei:
for some reason, i have two icons at at the top. both show my connection (i.e. 3G) except one has the batter status below it and the other is just white with the letters in it. any idea on how to get rid of the plain one? when i click it, it leads me to the connections no settings to remove it from the task bar tho. thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mbarvian:
Well, one is there to tell you which services are available, I believe (the one above the signal strength bar), and one is there to tell you which service you are connected to (the white letters). I think
[Moto Z4 Questions & Answers] D.A.N.:
Before I purchase one of these phones, can someone tell me if with Android 10 there is gestures navigation instead of the 3 button navigation? Can you post a picture if possible? Thanks.
[Moto Z4 Questions & Answers] Lesking72:
Settings > System > Gestures > System Navigation
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Questions & Answers] SirAerion:
Hey guys, so I had the forced update to Android 10 about 1 month ago, and I lost root, which I didn't found about until I tried installing something today.

As this isn't my first time losing root I just followed the steps I always do on this guide (https://xdaforums.com/mi-a3/how-to/guide-how-to-root-mi-a3-magisk-t3958509) and I managed to successfully install TWRP, but the phone is now stuck on the orange MI logo when I reboot to system. Someone pls help!

Edit: For anyone curious, I just used the Fix Recovery Bootloop inside TWRP and it worked! I still don't have root tho...

Edit 2: After trying to flash Magisk installer for the second time I determined it to be the problem. Can anyone help me with that?
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Questions & Answers] garylawwd:
Use the magisk patched boot.img from here that corresponds with your firmware version and follow to guide to flash in fastboot https://xdaforums.com/mi-a3/how-to/guide-how-to-root-mi-a3-magisk-t3958509/page40
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Questions & Answers] SirAerion:
Just tried that, the phone is stuck again on the orange MI logo and now when I try to boot into TWRP it shows an android laying down with the message "No command" PLEASE HELP
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Questions & Answers] SirAerion:
Just tried that, the phone is stuck again on the orange MI logo and now when I try to boot into TWRP it shows an android laying down with the message "No command" PLEASE HELP.

Edit: I just flashed TWRP on flashboot and I was able to solve this. I can't still fond what's the issue with magisk tho.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Questions & Answers] _mysiak_:
What Magisk modules do you have installed? They might be preventing the phone to boot up.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Questions & Answers] SirAerion:
Afaik the only module I HAD installed before the forced update was Smali patcher for POGO. But I can't check the modules now because the option isn't there in the manager.