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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the HTC Desire 20 Pro stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the HTC Desire 20 Pro's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the HTC Desire 20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the HTC Desire 20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the HTC Desire 20 Pro performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bbshk:
Can I use my PDA be the WIFI-connecter to let my computer get internet assess?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] starbase64:
Hi,

use Internetconnection Sharing.

wfg

Starbase64
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fizzy15:
just install the WMWifiRouter...

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Macgyvec3:
Let's be clear. You're computer does not have wi-fi i presume. You would like to connect the wi-fi on your phone then connect your phone to the laptop via usb or bluetooth and surf the net?

I've tried it like this and couldn't get it to work. I didn't try very hard but I connected the wi-fi on the phone then opened Internet conection sharing and tried to plug the usb in. You could try this while disableing your 3g conection. That may have been what i was doing wrong.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jez83uk:
This should do it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=377047 but I couldnt get it to work last time I tried. If you have any more joy than I did, please let me know.

Alternatively, wait for WMWiFiRouter 1.20, which should have the function.
[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the HTC Desire 20 Pro can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the HTC Desire 20 Pro's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the HTC Desire 20 Pro can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the HTC Desire 20 Pro before depleting the battery.

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[HTC Desire 20 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the HTC Desire 20 Pro's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

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[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] JugglerLKR:
see post #7

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2515344&postcount=7
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] mbarabas:
What's in the box?

I would also be curious about the box content it comes with... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Hattori_Hanso:
mbarabas, szerintem a csomagnak nem része a tv kábel, de ne legyen igazam, mert én meg akarom venni a pro-t

mbarabas, according to me for the packet not his part the TV cable, but not be true, because I want to buy it the pro
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] jwhitham:
I'm sure I saw somewhere that it doesn't come in the box. I've just oredered one from Expansys.

Today is the last day of the Modaco offer if you type "http://mickey.modaco.com/expansys/getcode.php?email=" into your browser adding your email address after the "=" it will send you a £10 voucher. You need to order something else to push the price of the cable over £20 so I got a 1GB MicroSD.

So all in that's a the TV out cable and 1GB MicroSD card delivered for £14.19
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] dazza9075:
HTC own website states that its optional, so its highly unlikely you'll get one in the box
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] jwhitham:
My cable has arrived. I'll post the pinout when I get a chance to beep it out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] jwhitham:
pin out

These are for the pins as viewed in the plug.

1 video out

5 video ground

2 audio right

6 audio left

11 audio ground
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] JugglerLKR:
jwitham - thanks, updated first post!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] jwhitham:
Now does anyone know where you can buy the 11pin ExtUSB plugs from? I only seem to be able to find them on audio adaptors which, I guess, only have 3 wires connected.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Hattori_Hanso:
I was watching unboxing video, there is not a TV cable in the box :( :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Deleted member 444898:
not really what the post is after but might be useful for some people, here is the link to buy the full cable from expansys:

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=170917
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] sonhy:
make one?

The HTC TV out cable cost too much! ($50)

Im gonna try my luck and make one.

Ebay sells 3in1 HTC ExtUSB adapters for about AU$15 shipped (it does say 5+6pins)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370079511111

and Dealextreme have Yellow+Red+White TV-out cable for a samsung phone for $5 shipped.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5122

Should be able to use the diagram in post#7 and get it to work.

anyone see a problem with this approach?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] JugglerLKR:
i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Vladimyr:
yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as

between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] da_jojo:
probably a terminator resistor of 50 ohms .. a piece of 50 ohm antenna wire will do fine ..

these cost 25 cents or less

as far as the mini usb .. its probably the same as this one motorola has..

im not sure if motorola sells these or if there are any to buy separatly.

just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Vladimyr:
No problem what to convert, the question is "how" ;)

An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.

I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] jwhitham:
I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] oostr048:
I think you are right a tv has an composite input witch has a 75ohm resitance.

but your headset uses the same connection for his mic... for me a bummer but for you guys maybe the solution....

take a look at this link:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052

it's a pinout of the headset...

i just maked one for myself (actual a home made cradle) but it just doesn't reconize the cable, audio and charging works like a charm
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
Build your own TV Out Cable

OK, I tried to put the pin-out together. I don't have the cable, but I played around with the Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200 which I opened up for that purpose. Only when pins 3 and 5 are connected and not 4, the TP recognizes a video cable and askes for the video norm. When using these pins as ground, there is a humming noise and the video flickers. By connecting these pins with pin A, this problem is solved. I put the info on a figure... could someone with a cable and a multimeter validate it?

I made then a custom cable to work with the Multifunction cable. For this, a 4-pin 3.5 mm plug was worked on with a Dremmel (see figure). The plug needs then to be inserted into the receptacle so that the notch is at the upper left. Just turn the plug till it is no longer identified as headset but as video cable. The extra ground connection I got from a regular mini USB cable. Tested and works without problem...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] da_jojo:
switch should be connected to mic ground probably.. can you try if this works ?

connect 3 and 5 for video switch

connect audio plug [ ]=== ground - audio right - audio left

4 - 2 - 6

connect video (o) outer 5 inner 1
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
This won't work, since your projector/TV will connect the audio GND with the video GND... and the cable will be detected as a headset because of the 4-5 connection... Pin number 4 is not GND, it is connected over 100 kOhm to 2.2 V. Same holds true for pin 3.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] gregmag:
Work !!!

The variant of Nethopper work for me. :)

Thanks !
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] peterbonge:
Why that? To avoid that the second ring gets contact? If yes: Why not simply cut it inside the plug?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
No, this won't work since this ring shortens pins 3,4,5 and we only want pins 3 and 5 to be connected. Pin 4 is wired to a contact located at the upper left corner of the 3.5 mm receptacle.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] peterbonge:
Thanks. I just got my adapter and now I can see that this ring has 3 contacts. What a bummer!...

Another idea: I have an old headset (from my Kaiser) with an extUSB connector and I can see that all contacts are available. Maybe I can use this cable? But who knows if there are single wires for all contacts...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
The HS S200? That should work. I would try to open up the part with the mic and solder the wires there. If pin 4 should be directly connected to 5/11 in the plug, you could try to pull this contact directly from the plug. Please let us know if it worked... :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] peterbonge:
Not the HS S200, but a similar one. Opening the mic thing wasn't really helpful because it isn't really wise to measure the contacts while they are connected to the mic circuit board.

I've cut the cable, separated all wires and connected the plug to the device. Sadly it still was recognized as an headset. I've measured the pins/wires and I could verify that some pins/wires were linked. I don't remember which ones.

Then I've opened the plug. That was really hard. Surprisingly there is also a 6x8mm double-sided board inside the plug. On the board the pins A and 5 are connected. I think I have to separate them, right?

There was also a connection between a pin and the shield. I don't remember which pin it was because I've removed all cables...

About the multi adapter: I've just noticed that the metal shield of the extUSB headset socket isn't connected with the shield of the extUSB plug and also not with pin A. Maybe because of this only headsets will work with this socket?

I'll continue later this week. I'm a little busy at the moment and I don't have the right tool here at home.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
As long as pin 4 is connected to GND, the plug is recognized as Headset. The phone applies 2.2 V on this pin over a resistor of 100 kOhm. When connecting this pin to GND, the level will drop to 0 V and the phone recognizes that as a digital low. That's why my suggestion was to directly rip the pin out of the plug (not on the phone! :) ). The shield of the ExtUSB in the adapter is connected to AGND. There are good reasons for separating digital GND from analog ground, especially when transmitting low signals (mic) or high bandwidth (video). That's why those two signals use separate ground wires in order to avoid crosstalk with the digital signal.

On a different note. There are shops out there (like this one ) who offer the TV out cable at a fraction of the current price and they ship international at a reasonable cost. I guess it's just a question how fast you need the cable to be in your hands...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] sonhy:
htc 3 in 1 usb audio adapter disassembled

Hey guys, i opened up the 3in1 adapter ...

Is it possible to just attach the video cable to it and still have the rest usable?

or should i cut the chip off and just use the ExtUSB plug alone?

--all images

http://www.mediafire.com/?yyxb4dnbwch
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
OK, that's what I would do: Scratch some paint away from the big area (ground plane) adjacent to pad S and solder the wire S to this area or use a separate wire to connect S with this area. This connects pin 3 (Switch) to ground. Next, you need to remove pin 4 from the plug. I did not try to do that - could be trickier than it sounds (please report back on success). After this, the remaining thing to do is to solder a cable with a cinch (RCA) plug on one end to pad M (center wire) and the ground area (shield). This is the video output. For audio, use a standard 3.5 mm to cinch audio cable. Should be fairly simple... and you can still use the USB receptacle for charging...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] mijou:
Haloo,

this instruction is vell. the video output cable created from htc 3 in 1 usb audio adapter is great. Removing pin 4 from the plug is posible with thin pincers (break it by the moving the pin from side to side).

But you cannot use the adaptor as headset anymore!!!

Thank for this quide!!!:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
Cool, you put another 3.5 mm jack for the video in the housing, very elegant! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] mijou:
It is not 3.5mm jack.

It's something like SONY1,7/4 (hole with one pin) but only 3mm diam. because it's no space there for bigger one! :):):)
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] docx:
so can someone give me the scheme i can use

i have AV cable and mini USB cable

what do i need to connect with what to get working cable? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
Please read this thread. You need an ExtUSB cable... :rolleyes:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] cyron_at:
I read the whole thread

but I don't know exactly what I need:

ExtUSB Cable: ok

what else?

Thx
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
A soldering iron and 3 cables with cinch plugs. Just wire them together according to the schematics in this thread...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] mc1340r:
to nethopper or mijou

hellow guys,

I read yours, and tried modifi on my 3to1 adapter,

something wrong yet.

could you tell me more details.

I connected pad S(pin 3) to ground(pad GS)(pin A or 11),then one of the cinch to pad M(pin 1), other to ground(no pad name, next to D+)(pin 5),then remove the wire of pad G(pin 4).

now I don't understand which process was wrong.

Please help

Thank you.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] nethopper:
If I understand you right, you removed the wire from pad G? If so, solder that back and remove pin 4 directly from the plug (use fine tweezers to bend it and break it away).
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] bugsy erin:
Hello tried this on the weekend these dont work on mine any way can the nokia cables work if you relplace the stereo jack with usb if so what pins to were
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] cmbtmdcthor:
Hey guys I found this usb to rca cable I found online...don't know if it will work though...:confused:

http://www.yongchin.com/english/eprdU.htm
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] peterbonge:
That cable has just a standard miniUSB connector, but a ExtUSB connector is needed. Just have a look at the picture here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2610305&postcount=19

The pins A-E are equal to the ones from an miniUSB connector. The pins 1-6 are the additional ones needed for this like headsets or TV-Out.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] soniczz:
Isn't it a better idea to de-solder the 4 and or 5 pin from the 11pin contra usb connector.???
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] zeb crs:
Pin 4 and 5 is shorted inside the mini usb connector so we have to remove the pin.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] ls3mach:
Can one be made from this? I also have a couple pairs of headphones, I assume these are the extUSB I need? I have 3.5mm to RCA and Just plain RCA to give up. I want this cable BAD.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] ls3mach:
I forgot to mention, I have a Sprint Touch Pro. I don't think it matters, but...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Vladimyr:
I think no problem if you can disassemble male connector without damage.

I did that. PM me if you have questions.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] ITNV:
Isn't that dongle all set up to accept a 2.5mm A/V out cable, though? I thought that was the purpose of the dongle? :confused:
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] pzztgotbagz:
can someone please post the color of the pinouts for the ext-usb i have an old cable with audio adapter and usb but its not the same way as yalls
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] pzztgotbagz:
example of what im looking for is

a-yellow

b-black and so on please this would help greatly
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] martin_yo:
@Vladimyr: maybe you can give us a pictorial....if you don't mind...
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] helirob:
Actually, I think you're on to something. I plugged in a standard camcorder cable (3.5mm to 3-RCA) to the 4 in 1 adapter (the one ls3mach posted earlier) At first, nothing happened. But as I removed the cable, the TP briefly showed the screen to select PAL or NTSC output. After playing with the position of the plug, I got the screen to stay visible and selected NTSC. It then showed a screen that asked what app to output to the TV. I pushed the plug all they way back in, but didn't get a picture and got a humm from the speakers.

This tells me that TV out is possible from the 3.5mm jack on the 4 in 1 adapter, but the plug is either proprietary or not wired normally. If I had the tech skills, I'd take the 4 in 1 adapter apart and try to find out what the pinouts expect for a video cable and then modify a standard cable (like the one from my camcorder) but I don't know how to do this.

Maybe this is what nethopper was trying to do, but I don't know what he was doing with that extra ground from the USB.

Anyone have any ideas?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Gambrinus.soil:
WOW!!! Great! It works even without extra ground connection. 10$ and I got video-out cable.

Thanks a lot!
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] JDub0820:
I apologize for my ignorance, but what am I supposed to do to use a mini usb for the extra ground? I have no idea how that should be connected.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] fireweed:
I did exactly this with an old iPod video out cable and it works perfectly. no ground wire needed.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] johnny13oi:
To nethopper, why did you have to dremel a notch in the connector like that? What was making it being detected as a headset cable?

What I was wondering was that, I puchased this cable below a while back:

http://cgi.ebay.com/OEM-HTC-T-Mobil...ryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Could I use that and leave the pins for the USB connector alone so that I can still charge and transfer data through that mini usb port or should I just use that mini usb port to charge with and rewire it as a video out cable? What I was asking is, can you connect phone to PC through USB AND connect to TV at the same time? Or can I just wire it to charge and connect to TV at the same time.

Also should I try using the ground on pin 5 alone before trying to include the grounding cable from pin A? I am afraid to mix the grounding of pin A and 5, even though there would probably be no effect.

After reading some more, it seems like it would be a good idea to keep the digital and analog ground separate from eachother. However what nethopper did was the opposite and he got better results. So I am guessing that the video signal is an analog signal which uses the analog ground shared with the left and right audio outputs.

Has anyone tried connecting the Video Sense to the Digital ground? Maybe keeping the sense cable separate from the video feed ground would give it a cleaner signal?
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] lollonais:
I think I would just spend the $35 bucks and get it over with.

http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-PRO-T...14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] johnny13oi:
Well that's only a preorder and it takes the fun out of making one yourself.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] DeniaL:
Not all of us how the know-how to make our own cable! I for one with wait until someone releases this in the US to purchase one.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] herculese1:
I agree

yea il prob wait till its released in the US also. id love to try to do it my self since i already have the 3in1 cable but i have a feelin iil just break it. plus for me to do this id prob need a video tutorial lol.
[Touch Pro, Fuze Accessories] Praygo:
I believe I have the same adapter... Can someone guide me in making a cable out of this adapter?