yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] manuelcalavera:
its a TOUCH category , so it should have less HW keys
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] billgatessucks:
I dont want to seem funny or anything, but in what little I can find out about this phone, I have deduced that it is everything the touch diamond is... except for it has a keyboard... and that the landscape "touchflo 3d" is pretty much 8 icons...

please, someone tell me im wrong and that ive missed something here...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Lanyz:
Touch Pro has:

More RAM (288MB)

LED light for camera

Hardware keyboard

Higher battery capacity

TV out

microSDHC slot (instead of built-in 4GB in Diamond)

it's possible that I forgot something...:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] billgatessucks:
more RAM ay... i guess it depends on whether it really will speed up things, or whether itll go back to the usual problem of the graphics drivers being non-exsistant.

Personally, and im probably on my own here, it just seems that the pro will be £100+ more because it has a keyboard and a few more little things... dont get me wrong, i got my kaiser because i love having a real qwerty etc, i just wish that it had a bit more "oomph" behind it than the diamond... and some graphic drivers ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Weight of 165g opposed the 110g from Diamond
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rhedgehog:
comes with Worldcard mobile and JetCet print pre-installed.....??

Nah, doesn't excite me either!:p

Anyhoo, you end up with around 200MB Program memory and 320MB Storage Memory just after a hard reset. That's more than on my advantage!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] scotchua:
No demo of the camera in the software demo huh? That's not usually a good sign.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
Dumm di dumm... someone is not up to date :P

Take a look here:

http://www.theunwired.net/?item=rev...i900-omnia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] moustik_2002:
Hi,

I wonder what is the efficiency about the flash led.

Will be the same than i have on my dear old Qteck 9100 or will it be more usefull like an numeric photo device ?

May be some videos could reply to my wonders...?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aublumberg:
Fully agreed. Compared to the TyTN II (which it supposedly replaces) it misses:

(1) tilting of screen - coupled with the edgy back cover this means the device will not be usable while sitting on a desk, you have to hold it in your hands to type

(2) jog wheel - why not add one on the right hand of the device where it has plenty of space?

(3) OK key on the keyboard

(4) Microsoft Start menu key on the keyboard

The last two can be worked around by touching on the screen to open the start menu, or pressing the Return / OK button next to the Dpad. This is (a) a bit cumbersome because you juggle between typing on the keyboard and moving your fingers then to the upper part of the device, and (b) it likely makes your screen more greasy.

On the other hand I find the dedicated MMS / SMS button unnecessary, it would have been better to place the key for (4) above here to open the Start menu.

Having said this, after getting used to it, it is workable and the keyboard itself is quite nice. I was initially worried that the addition of a 5th row will make the keys too small but this is not the case. They are a little smaller but well layed out and separated from one another. The additional row for numbers makes text entry more effective.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fireblade63:
Totally agree pal

also missing a h/w button for the camera

I am reassigning the volume buttons anyway
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aublumberg:
Good point (am not using camera often).

The standard Button assignment tool only covers the call key, you would need a 3rd party app to map the volume keys (haven't tried).

Also note that once you slide out the keyboard the volume keys become almost inaccessible as they sit just above your 2 - 4 number keys on the keyboard. But when not using the keyboard it would be useful.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fireblade63:
Actually, the volume buttons will reside on the lower side of the keyboard in landscape mode (opposite TyTN II).

For mapping, if I remember the s/w name correctly was Aebutton plus or something like that which did the deed.

Also ran in a program from Vito for button mapping, can't remember which was better though.

I just need to assign the camera, a task manager (quick menu) and resco file explorer as double or triple presses etc...

That's the problem with the "Touch" series.

I would always prefer more h/w buttons.

But the VGA screen, the accelerometer, the processor speed, the RAM & ROM size, the neat look which is not as any PPC at last etc... is making me want it.

But CONS really are:

1) no tilting mechanism which is the worst of all for me

2) no 3.5mm jack

3) alot of h/w buttons missing (Camera, voice dialing/recording, side jogger..)

4) QWERTY missing Ok and Start buttons (again remapping for example symbols button)

5) TV-out cable not included (who knows when it will show)

Other than that, it will be great...in time with cooked ROMs:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Tregrad:
I feel like a kid in October waiting for Christmas.......O and im 42
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] foo:
There are some new images of the Touch Pro which can be found here.

Seems like they have changed the backcover a little bit. The backside has no longer a Diamond shape and isn't glossy at all.

(Coming from a TyTN it finally looks familiar to me again - I like those HTC bricks) :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
I don't like design of the back cover of the O2 one compared to the HTC one - it looks too boring and loses all of the quirkiness. Having said that, It does look flatter, which might make it more practical I suppose :rolleyes:

By the way, what's that Sony Ericsson phone in the bottom picture? I had a Sony Ericsson phone (a T610) a few years back and it was the most reliable phone I ever had - I didn't know they made phones with slide-out qwerty keyboards though! Still it's too late now for me to change my mind I was just curious!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Smaniac:
It's an Xperia X1. This phone has been one of the biggest announcements of the year, but so far I haven't seen anything really concrete about it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Bengal Boy has a pretty decent and extended hands on with the device.

The only thing that the Xperia hsa over the Touch Pro IMO is the higher res screen.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
jwhitham posted in another thread on this forum that the Raphael's 640x480 screen is actually better than the Xperia's 800x480 screen because there are lots of apps that won't work at 800x480. If this is the case I'd be inclined to agree.

IMO however, the only thing the Xperia has over the Touch Pro is being physically smaller and therefore more portable, as evidenced by the picture that I first spotted it in :D Mind you I just took another look and it doesn't look a fantastic amount smaller, only slightly. I can't be bothered to look up the exact dimensions because I'm not really interested in it ;) All I know is the Touch Pro, although still "big" for a phone, is quite a bit smaller than my Vario II brick, and that's good enough for me :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] scotchua:
Thanks for the link, it was exactly what i was looking for :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Nope... The Touch Pro is smaller LxW, and just 1.05mm thicker.

Touch Pro: 102 mm (L) X 51 mm (W) X 18.05 mm (T) Volume = 93,896.1 mm^3

Xperia X1: 110 mm (L) X 53 mm (W) X 17.00 mm (T) Volume = 99,110.0 mm^3
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nbos04:
So the Touch Pro is about the same size as my O2 Zinc, though thinner. thats good, as the touch pro is what I am looking at to replace the "old dear".

Like the volume calc, nice addition!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Well I figured, a lot of times the thickness can be irrelevant in a pocket if it's smaller overall... Example, my Duo felt much better than an iPhone in my pocket even though the iPhone is much thinner.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fpatrick:
but Touch Pro is far more heavier compared with Xperia X1...

Touch Pro: 165g

Xperia X1: 145g
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Indeed... Don't buy it, it's the 20 grams that broke the camel's back.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ferraripassion:
Nice Video, thanks.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Smaniac:
Lol, nice one. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ez345:
has anyone posted any videos of the English Versions of the Touch Pro hands on???
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Semi666:
x

Anyone has picture of HTC Touch Pro and HTC Touch Diamond from side ? I mean foto comparision of thickness? Thanks
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
The official HTC youtube video is the English version I think (3rd link down of 1st post in this thread) - it has a qwerty keyboard at least anyway!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
Anyone noticed the cool new weather animations? I LOVE the rain landing on the screen and then the windscreen wiper suddenly appearing from the top to wipe it off!!! That is SO COOL :D

Not seen it yet? Best place to go is the official HTC site but I can't link directly there cos it's flash based! What you have to do is go to http://www.htc.com/uk/product.aspx?id=55322 then wait for the thin grey progress bar under the icons to get all the way across. Once that's done, click on the weather icon and watch in amazement :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] foo:
But that's not new, isn't it? I've seen this already on the Diamond.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
Oh sorry, but it's new to me! I never paid much attention to the Diamond, I looked at it's specs but that's about as far as I went!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lusta1988:
Wow my first post in a while....glad it's here in this forum. :D

I noticed on that site that contrary to what some people here say, u don't have to get the battery out to swap the microsd card. Also, that animation that u can see in the background(when switching from a tab to another) is also gone in both diamond and raphael latest roms for speed purposes.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fireblade63:
I am really concerned with Camera quality and performance.

I hope we can shoot decent videos and shots with this device.

At least be able to zoom in and out while video capturing (N/A in Kaiser)

Also, how well is the flash or the LED on the back is very important.

Reviews of software and hardware are great but I would really love it if we can get some feedback from any concept device holder (if any are around)..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
There are new high quality pics on engadget... I updated the first post :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] l3it3r:
TV Out will be enough reason for me to get one.. I hate going on long car trips and my kids complaining about the DVDs that we bring with us, they always change their damned minds when they get in the truck. I'll run the RCA cables to the screens and plug into my phone.. Oh happy day.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nabboR:
TouchXperience

Hi guys and girls!

I'm a noob to WM, comming from Symbian UIQ and I've preordered a Touch Pro and I got a Q about TouchXperience, I mean WOW, what a software!!

But I don't understand, when reading the homepage: http://www.touchxperience.com/

At the bottom there's a Donate - Paypal link, does that mean that this soft will be a freeware or what?!?

Because if so, I'd be MORE than willing to donate, but I've hard time believing that such an advanced soft will be free.

So please, enlighten me!

And also, anyone got a clue on when it will be ready for the market?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
It's a private project, yet not released. I am sure the developer keeps track of people who donated... I would not be afraid. And if it is worth paying for the better it is :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] StaticPlaya:
Here is a youtube unboxing video that I have found.

omio.com HTC Touch Pro unboxing
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] niloodn:
This unboxing video is great for another reason for those of us across the pond in the US. Look at the video at about 6:57 or so and you will see an FCC Logo under where the battery is housed. While I could be wrong, this, some way suggests to me that the hardware between the US and EURO GSM Touch Pro's are the same and the radio rom is what is locking down the bands. The other answer could be is that they decided to cert the phone as is(w/o hardware for US 3G) but that would seem to be a waste of their time.

Those of you that have this phone over in Europe/UK what is the Model ID and FCC ID of this device?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dabs:
I cant remember the reference (maybe burried somewhere in this thread) but I believe this may well be the case - ie. HTC put all hardware versions through the FCC, including ones never destined for the US.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ez345:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pZdVcky0lE , pretty good hands on review
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] doctajay:
More cool youtube vids:

HTC touch pro vs. iphone text competition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0MYZ_LmhFI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c1zzvkIOek
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
I've been waiting on that for a bit now, hope it comes soon. Can't wait to be able to flick my wrist and navigate touchflo 3D :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Xzeven:
Ya I hear there's a G sensor on the rapheal but no ones got a review out with it or any use for it... There is definetly a G-sensor isn't there?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sub69:
Yep, that's Schaps' latest project, isn't it? One of the most respected members around here...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] sub69:
There definitely is a G-Sensor (or Accelerometer). Usage was mentioned in quite a lot of detail during the coolsmartphone 7-day video review of the Diamond, and it's identical in the Raphael.

Currently it's basically used to rotate the screen when in Opera or Photo Album, and it's used in the "Teeter" game - where you roll a ball around a maze by tipping your phone, and have to avoid holes all over the place.

Apart from that, if the phone rings while it's face up on a table, you can turn it face down to mute the ringer. Beyond that, I can't think of much else at the moment.

Given a bit more time, you'll be able to do all sorts with the G-Sensor. Just have a look at Schaps' upcoming TouchXperience, mentioned a few posts higher up...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] roguenode:
mobileaddicts.com has new review up...

Look's veddy niiiice! linky
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
Thank you :) - I added it to the list of links within post N°1.

Finally we got the first real review :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] puerrican85:
I'm a little disappointed that no one has tried any benchmarks in Coreplayer or D3D benchmark apps or games. Considering all the talk with the TYTN II video issues and what not you think some of the sites would put those concerns to rest by now...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
New media added from OMIO and pocketnow.com
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
The review on mobility today is nice (see first post) ... although it does not focus much on the keyboard. The reviewer is praising the device. You might think a bit too much. However, read their HTC Touch Diamond review and you will know that they actually have a differential opinion...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marex86:
Some new video added about hour ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUdHxIihCeE

HTC Touch Pro Q&A Review by Omio
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
First written review is up on pocketnow.com - first post updated :)

Enjoy :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
Added the link to a review on mobile-review.com. It is in russian but it has great photos... I hope they will post the translation soon...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
Updated with the posts of "a week with the Touch pro" on coolsmartphone.com

Really nice :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] joshnewman:
There is a review up on phonearena.com.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Touch-Pro-Review-review-r_2003.html
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
I added this one - thanks :)

P.S: Make me stiky :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mrvanx:
Add the info to the wiki....read the sticky thread above ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] EJStyleS:
Omio.com Live Webcast!

Today is the day for our omio.com live webcast with the HTC Touch Pro!

It’ll be going on at 4.30pm GMT (that’s 11.30am New York time, 8.30am in L.A. and 5.30pm in gay Paris).

If you got questions that you’d like us to answer, let us know in the Touch Pro forum thread at

http://www.omio.com/mobile-phone-forum

Come back to our blog to watch the webcast!

http://blog.omio.com/

Any ideas for which mobile you'd like to see next, let us know in the forums too!

Edit/Delete Message
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marex86:
*bump* If you guys maybe forgot about this live webcast, some interesting things to hear, and you can ask what interest you
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marex86:
TV out review :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z-CDgLbcEs
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alekukoc:
GSMArena Review

Cheers!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sublim3style3:
I have a situation involving tinder. I managed to get myself banned through their platform by using sarcastic profile details that was violation of their policy. I kind of was playing with fire here as I had continued to see fake accounts make it onto the platform, and wanted to test their security. I basically ****ed myself.

So I've contacted them and they told me that my phone number and Facebook was banned. I used new phone numbers, Facebook accounts, play store account, a VPN, even a new device to see if they were able to ban based on the MAC address of the device. I still manage to get auto banned. So I think it was because tinder communicates with Facebook automatically. I am unable to use my Facebook on the device I use with a tinder account. My question is this: is there a way to block applications from communicating with each other behind the scenes, as in a way for tinder to not be able to see that Facebook is even installed. I know there has to be a way. I'm actually more interested in learning about this way than I am with using tinder. It's quite funny, actually. :laugh:

Are there any devs that know if there's a way to edit the coding of the program and how to do it? I do recall there being an app that allows you to change the structure of an app by altering it's values such as true to false or 000 to 001 etc.

Feel free to move this post or redirect me. I was gonna post this in the Android mods tab, but it says devs only so I figure I'd respect that fwiw.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] Deleted member 9038441:
Obviously the standard S10 doesn't have 5G in it, but I' wondering if there's some way that whenever you turn on mobile data, it will show 5G instead of 4G, and 4G instead of 3G etc. I'm not sure if this has been done before. It's just an idea and if anyone knows a way to do it please comment. Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] StoneyJSG:
In certain areas when I turn on mobile data it will say 5Ge instead of 4G lte. I am using the G975U galaxy s10+ on the AT&T firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] gurnsey101:
Yes that is very easy to if you are rooted and have a pc or laptop i do it to replace the H and H+ with 3g and 3g+ all you have to do edit the spr files in the system UI ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] Deleted member 9038441:
Rooting the phone will trip Knox and void the warranty, but that's a possibility. Thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TNSMANI:
MOD ACTION:

Thread closed as duplicate.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Questions & Answers] SaturnsVoid:
Just got my note 10, want to root it, any way to bypass the annoying 168 hour wait?
[Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Questions & Answers] opdrago:
im also stuck in the 168 hours waiting.

i wonder if for rooting the devices need to wait the 168 hours or the waiting is only for unlocking the bootloader for installing a new rom.
[Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Questions & Answers] joke19:
Please wait :D
[Xiaomi Mi Note 10 Questions & Answers] DeepAnger:
Yes it does because once it's unlocked you can root. And you cannot while it's locked.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zappigan:
I'm trying to build LineageOS 14.1 (nougat) for my device but keep getting an error when it's building the kernel.

/usr/bin/ld: scripts/dtc/dtc-parser.tab.o:(.bss+0x50): multiple definition of `yylloc'; scripts/dtc/dtc-lexer.lex.o:(.bss+0x0): first defined here

I'm building on Linux with "LC_ALL=C", Java 8 and virtualenv for Python 2. Had to change the shebang from Python to Python2 in kernel/vendor/device/tools/dct/DrvGen.py as it was apparently not using Python 2 and was getting an error there as well.

Should I change something in the lexer/parser files or could the problem be something else?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamelg:
Hello,

I'm trying to rebuild LineageOS16 and I get the same error. I tried that without success.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/4/1/1206

EDIT :

To solve this error, I edited this file :

$ git diff
diff --git a/scripts/dtc/dtc-lexer.lex.c_shipped b/scripts/dtc/dtc-lexer.lex.c_shipped
index 2d30f41778b..d0eb405cb81 100644
--- a/scripts/dtc/dtc-lexer.lex.c_shipped
+++ b/scripts/dtc/dtc-lexer.lex.c_shipped
@@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ char *yytext;
#include "srcpos.h"
#include "dtc-parser.tab.h"

-YYLTYPE yylloc;
+extern YYLTYPE yylloc;

/* CAUTION: this will stop working if we ever use yyless() or yyunput() */
#define YY_USER_ACTION \
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kccat6dev:
Thanks for writing this down. It is still useful in 2021 even on a modern ArchLinux trying to compile a two year old Lineage 16 for a Galaxy S5+. (y)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] susetoyix:
[deleted]
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tcecyk:
uh should've searched here first. Had to find it the long way: I had to read more lkml ( https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/3/31/658 ) to realize it is the _shipped files to edit, as those are built until 5.x-kernels.

Then it's either/or to edit one of them.

diff --git a/scripts/dtc/dtc-parser.tab.c_shipped b/scripts/dtc/dtc-parser.tab.c_shipped
index ee1d8c30..c8c8ca8b 100755
--- a/scripts/dtc/dtc-parser.tab.c_shipped
+++ b/scripts/dtc/dtc-parser.tab.c_shipped
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@
#include "dtc.h"
#include "srcpos.h"

-YYLTYPE yylloc;
+extern YYLTYPE yylloc;

compiling sharkls kernel for a j3xnlte cm-14.1 (Samsung J320FN)
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] chr2002:
Hello,

is there a way to flash the dtb partition using TWRP ?

I can flash bootloader, boot, system easily using twrp. But since there is no /block device for the dtb partition its not as easy like the other partitions.

Just dd'ing to /dev/dtb does not work, too.

I need to flash 13 devices mounted in a Server Rack, so it would be nice to do this by twrp and not by usb.

Greetings,

chris
[Android Stick & Console AMLogic based Computers] DieHertz:
Hi!

Did you ever find an answer to your question?

I figured out that /dev/dtb seems to be picking up data from either /dev/block/reserved@0x400000 or /dev/block/reserved/@0x440000, there are two identical copies of gzipped dtb.img there.

P.S. Reading the driver code I see that you can just write dtb/multi-dtb into /dev/dtb and it will be stored into both copies on /reserved partition

I wasn't brave enough to try and flash them on a running TV and risk bricking it though :)