yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] FreshlyBaked 420:
You have the same power to do something about it making a recovery just as Mauro did. Your post was totally useless and could have not even been posted and nobody would care. Developer's do work for themselves first and foremost, not for anyone else. Your post was totally pointless, and see quite rude to be honest. Mauro did a lot for A10 development and recovery work. He's now moved on with his Life, let him be. The tools to make your own recovery are out there.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Rootmaster906:
You can flash Android 10 firmware and then use TWRP. Geez. Read!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
Maybe he doesn't want android 10 really !!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] orb3000:
Please keep thread on topic and with respect.

Thanks for your cooperation.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Scotsman828:
Android 10 is no longer being updated security patches. I have figured out how to use the LineageOS Recovery effectively enough that no longer need TWRP anyway.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Revenant Ghost:
After seeing the most recent posts, this thread has outlived its usefulness.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Even if you wanted to install a semi working recovery, it still needs to be able to decrypt.for backups AFAIK, not sure that's working.

As for back ups.. swift back up for me has been superb.

Also Evo X has everything you could need from OOS and is probably the best custom ROM for the 8 pro / 8 / 8T.

No it's not a Nand but it's the best there is at the moment.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Imprezzion:
I have been running EvoX for the past month and a half. It's basically perfect. Swift backup is also my go to but it still takes more time then just being like, nah this ain't it, go to TWRP, flash stock backup, continue where u left off. Lol.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Totally agree, just trying to help the chap, if he hadn't already done it..

I'm running evo myself.

Best of both worlds, I did go back to OOS when I had a problem and immediately regretted it.

Evo is second to none for me.

PS: whatever happened to clockwork mod?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] osm0sis:
CWM became Cyanogen Recovery which subsequently crashed and burned with that organization.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Lol really..I never knew, it sort of just disappeared one day
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jerryhou85:
Off topic posts are removed from this thread. Please be civil to each other during any discussion. Thanks.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] anonxlg:
New oneplus 8 owner here, I'm reading up as much info as I can, but I'm confused about a few things regarding:

Since I'm on the latest oos, does that mean I can't install twrp? How does lineage 18.1 work if android 11 doesn't work on it? Backup/restore doesn't work, so no making fully system backups? How can you flash custom roms if you can't flash system/vendor?

I already unlocked my bootloader. I'm trying to figure out what's my next steps if I want to try out a custom rom. Ideally, I'd like to make a nand backup of vanilla oos before proceeding, but it doesn't sound like that's possible.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
Some of roms you side load or fastboot I prefer fastboot method.

Just read directions it is not hard.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Go to Evo X then check my post which is #76

You'll find it in the 8/8pro unified development section.

I've detailed everything
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] aviator.OO7:
can i dump persist.img and boot.img using this method on T mobile oneplus 8 android 11?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jiml8:
How about the camera? How does the support compare to stock firmware?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Encryption has been fixed for 8 and 8 pro!!!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
Could you please confirm where you found this info and post a link.

Thanks
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
Do use 8 or 8 pro?

Where did you download this?

Thanks
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
twrp-op8-3.5.2_11-beta.img

drive.google.com
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
I use 8 pro but I did try booting it and it did work.

Are you only booting this img?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Yes, bigbiff, lossyx and nebrassy are the one who got this working. Fastboot boot, not install
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Well well well.

Thank you @bigbiff @Lossyx @Nebrassy @orb_selektor

That's great news.

I think perhaps it's time for the original post on this thread to be updated.

What do you think?

Or new thread time??

Appreciate the work, nice one chaps.

The 8 pro is now complete. 👍
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] psychemisha:
So how we use it what works what not if i wont to flash new rom what i need to wipe?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
So you would just boot it and use as is I'm guessing?

My only query about this would be that if we can only boot it then we're still tied to a computer, being able to use only your phone to download, wipe and install ROMs on the fly would be the end game.

So where could we install it?

Fastboot flash recovery ./twrp.img

??
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
I've been able to flash it fine. In aicp, I reboot to twrp no issues
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Lovely.. game on..

Thank you so much to all involved in this..

Stupendous work..I think a lot of people lost hope and we're resigned to computer flashing.

Appreciate your persistence.

Legends.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
I'm having issues flashing ROMs. Someone said they can flash gapps and magisk with no issues
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
That's a start, I think the main thing missing was a Nand back up .
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
What did you flash it to mate?

Just recovery?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Fastboot flash recovery twrp-op8-3.5.2_11-beta.img
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Cheers ace @Fishawy go for it mate.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Fishawy:
Cheers @dladz

Guys, I'm trying to revive a very dead 8 Pro. Mounting the storage in TWRP fails for some weird reason, and when I try adb sideload a stock ROM, the attached happens even after a couple of reboots into recovery.

Any idea?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
As a side note to @Fishawy

His phones currently in a state where he cannot boot to edl mode, fastboot mode doesn't allow flashing of critical partitions for some reason.

His bootloader is unlocked and he's trying to get the OS back, I suggested twrp as a means to get the OS back.

It's it possible to flash anything with twrp at this point?

Mounting the device as storage to a pc doesn't seem to work yet.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] nijohnson:
WOHHOO! TWRP is working on the 8Pro?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] GIKE:
Anyone know if it's possible to flash this new beta version directly with magisk manager or fk updater?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
I would imagine its via fastboot mate.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] deepongi:
i'll push the device tree in a bit.

big thanks for the work @bigbiff

regards.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] RodiNet7601:
TWRP installed and at first sight working as a normal TWRP.

Great job ;)

Anyone tried installing ROM's?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] alex moymoy:
This is working on 8P or it's only for the 8?? Thanks in advance
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
8 pro and 8 are in essence the same. So both should work the same.

Many many thanks to all of you guys. I had been regretting picking up the 8 pro thinking TWRP was a lost cause. Then this happened. Thank you each and every one of you that made this happen. You are why XDA continues to be amazing!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] deepongi:
both.

im compiling a upstreamed build, with new changes.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] rodken:
(1) Has anyone confirmed that it works on the regular OP8 - not the OP8T or OP8 Pro?

(2) Does Backup/Restore function or still a WIP?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
Around the first post I'm pretty sure the guy it's actually says OnePlus 8 I have a pro and it also worked read like the last 10 post.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] deepongi:
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regards.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
I on OnePlus 8 pro I have flashed the twrp and boots to twrp without a problem it does take a little for twrp to open up.

Fastboot flash recovery.

That the what I used to flash it I have not flashed anything yet.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] MariusKv:
What does work on it and what does not work?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
I have just flashed a kernel without issue
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] MariusKv:
Have you tested flashing a custom rom ?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
@Fishawy has it installed.

Mounting via mtp by all accounts doesn't appear to work.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
I tried to do a full backup, just to see what would and wouldn't work. Seriously stoked at how much works now. Thank you all!!!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
Nope I have no need to flash off what I'm using.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Whatever doesn't work, it's still a step in the right direction...

So I'm still happy
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
Amen.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Unn113:
I think it's about right time for a new thread for this new TWRP, just for convenience
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Mchlbenner51:
I totally agree!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Lycidias:
Awesome news!!🥰🥳

Someone tried a full restore, too?

Many thanks to the developers!🎉
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] MariusKv:
Not me. Only flashed to custom rom and magisk
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
I'm a little gun shy to risk a full wipeout, but considering the peeps involved, I honestly think it will work. Will have to see if I have the means to backup everything on internal with me at work. If so, I will launch that monkey into space and update this post for all. Unless someone else beats me to it. Lol.

Edit: I do not have my bag o usb c drives on me today. Boo.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Unn113:
Whats on the DTBO partition? I see it for the first time in my life
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Lycidias:
Any issues? How dit it went?😄

Is it recommended to restore all partitions?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] gsser:
same as me. takes like 40 seconds to boot but decrypts my pattern.

awesome fokin job lads
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] rodken:
Have you tried to restore after the backup?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] rodken:
The question was specifically towards the success of a restore after the backup.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
For some reason, even with newest beta I still can't flash ROMs. Especially AICP
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] MariusKv:
I flashed evo and havoc with it
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] vitogga:
Are EDL and fastboot working after flashing or booting this TWRP?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Well my current ROM is on slot b. I tried flashing aicp but it immediately soft boots twrp
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Flashing a recovery won't mess up edl and fastboot
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Wipe working ok??

That's great news man
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Anybody able to test mtp plz.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] MariusKv:
Yes wipe works
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
No. Still at work, sans my modder toolkit (micro USB c thumb drives, etc) May try later for science.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
As far as what to/what not to restore, on a totally unrelated note, once upon a time I had two Axon 7 (actually, I still have them) One of them, while using a (unbeknownst to me) problematic build of TWRP, lost it's IMEI when I restored it's backup of persist. So for reciprocity's sake, I never try to restore persist. Took a couple of years for me to finally give up on restoring that one.

So now, Persist is the 1st thing I back up on a new to me device, even if it's a dd:if backup of persist.

The verbage has changed many times over the years as far as do's and don'ts of TWRP.

Critical partitions like that, I do try to backup, but as far as restoring, it's better to use the KISS and/or minimalist approach. It's good to have a backup. But it's better to have a clean, fresh, fully intact piece of firmware vs the ease of depending on the backup which may or may not be viable.

In this case today, I backed up recovery and everything else I could just in case I need some facet of it later. But as a practice, I tend to do system image and data for backups.

No one likes a brick. Or losing everything on internal storage.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Really the one thing that should be backed up to restore is system, data, kernel and vendor unless I am mistaken. I have never backed up
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] bensen from hell:
I have hard problems to flash it, i cant boot it too.... in cmd i can see the device id. Its recognized fine but the file will not send to device
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
If efs still a thing? Back that up..

I've had the IMEI thing a few times. Sony z1 - just restored. Never had it with a OnePlus, Sammy - just used Odin.

Never had to do it myself but have read that the efs partition (least on the OnePlus 5) was used for restoring the IMEI.

Might have changed but thought I'd mention it
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Flash1337:
Oh my, this is the best news, THANK YOU to the peeps behind this amazing project.

One question, is full wipe working for a total clean install, data & system ?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] MariusKv:
I did a full wipe worked for me
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Flash1337:
Great, thank you :)
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Fishawy:
FYI, I don't know if this was ever there, but I just saw a "Reboot to EDL" option in the advanced section for the first time. This helped me MSMing my 8 Pro after it was failing to go into EDL.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Helle8855:
Silly Question: Is it work with Oxygen 11 on a op8?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Lycidias:
Yes
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] remix96:
If i have oos stock installed only on one slot, rooted, can i use this recovery to just wipe everything and flash latest havoc?

And then, if i would, can i go back to stock by just restoring the backup?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
A Nand back up yes In theory, not sure if anyone's committed to doing this as yet.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Hugo_Sanchez:
Wonder who 'll be the first to try it....I really hope it'd work. The fact that we have a (nearly a fully working) TWRP is amazing, credit to all those involved. Are you gonna give it a shot @dladz ? I remember you from the Huawei P20 Pro days....always sound advice from you :)
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
Redid my full backup this morning. Had no errors this time. If I'm not busy at work today, I did bring my hack pack of drives, etc to recover/replace my files. Hoping it's slow today in the medical equipment realm, but not holding my breath yet as these days, that's difficult to estimate. Most likely, I won't have to recover, but it's beat to expect the best plan for the worst.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Hugo_Sanchez:
Thx @kitcostantino . Looking at @remix96 post 1547 - is that actually possible do you think?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] rodken:
Keep us posted on the restoring aspect as that is the deal breaker for a bunch of folks?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
Not from OOS to Havoc. Even if restoring is functional, that one is a bad idea. I say that bc unless the rom is built exactly like stock OOS (which would negate many improvements of custom vs stock) all it takes are slight differences to wreak....Havoc. ;)
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Hugo_Sanchez:
Not that I have Havoc OS, still rocking on Stock OOS, but the chance to back up OOS and try different Custom ROMS would be awesome...just like the good ol' days. At least we have the ability to backup is amazing. Had to factory reset 2 weeks ago due to an issue and had to back up 1700+ photos with Dr Phone wondershare software (then realised it'd cost me £20 to restore to phone) due to losing functionality with phone.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] remix96:
So, instead with this twrp i can backup my stock oos and restore it only if i don't use any custom rom?

I am a bit noob of it, I only have it rooted but still on latest oos lmao
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] gsser:
Yes. Otherwise rom may not boot/ if boots you are going to have issues such as force closes, lagging etc. Only restore a backup if you are on the same rom.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] enjoy_life:
How do you know this?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] AlDollaz:
Wait, wait, wait. We have a working TWRP for OP8 that successfully restores backups?!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Unn113:
As far as I know custom roms use custom firmware, so restoring custom rom on stock and otherwise won't work untill firmwares match. I think it's possible to flash oos on top of custom rom, then restore backup and it should be fine, but it's only my theory.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] Unn113:
Flashing custom rom on top of oos then restoring backup should work too.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Haha cheers man . I'm sitting here with Evo X installed.. haven't needed twrp but definitely nice to be able to flash on the fly. If I was flashing then yea I'd jump on it straight away..

Won't be tonight I'm afraid..

U good??

Long time mate.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Brilliant to see this forum leap into life. Hoping there's a resurgence of new ROMs..

If AOSIP comes I'll be as happy as a fat kid in a sweet shop.

Good times
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] rodken:
Needs to be confirmed.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] gsser:
Know what exactly?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] gsser:
Using data of a x rom on a y rom will end up in

Most likely, Soft Brick-bootloop.

Small chance of booting but there will be lots of issues due to compatibility.

It is not recommended to try. If someone else says so, ignore them as they have no idea what they are saying. This is like the basic principal of rooting/flashing roms. Do NOT mix datas of two different roms.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
Soft bootloop. A brick is hard to do on most phones these days. As long as you can get into fastboot and/or edl, your phone isn't bricked. What would happen in a situation like this is you would just need to format internal storage and it will boot. Anytime you go from OOS to custom or custom to OOS, YOU MUST format data
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] gsser:
Soft brick soft bootloop same thing.

Brick divides into two. Hard brick and soft brick. Been that way since 2010.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Great thing now though, storage is left alone... which is what we wanted all along...so a swift back up can simply be restored..for me that's all that I required...was tired of nuking the phone every time..was a ballache
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
Ive bricked a Sony, to me a brick is when it's literally as useful as an actual brick .

The Sony wouldn't even turn on, truly broken.. no power nothing.

To me if it's recoverable then it's not bricked..

But that's me
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] gsser:
Well you can call it whatever you want... Its just an old habit of me using that term and not bootloop. Back then people used simple terms such as soft brick or hard brick hell even if you google it now, it still comes like that.

Its just that it gets annoying when someone tries to hit up with facts but misses completely haha.

Btw sony phones are literally a pain. I had 2 xperia phones. Both hard bricked .____.

Speaking of bootloop, never seen anyone saying "hard" bootloop if there is even "soft" bootloop. Bootloop is just bootloop.

Anyways enough OT.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
I've been using Android since day one on the G1

To me and many others if you say bricked then it's broken.

Each to their own just know that people will assume that it's bust if you say it..
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] mordantly:
Don't forget we are NOT referring to the Motorola BRICK. Man those are expensive now!
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] dlads:
The 888 I used to have one of them..my first phone..

They make tumours like we now make texts
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
I bricked a Motorola droid 2 global by flashing the rd2d version. I ****ed it up so bad it was a brick. Wouldn't even power on, nothing. No download mode, no sbf, just a small vibration and nothing
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
Not looking like it's gonna be simple, but I did figure out after I wiped in TWRP restoring is not so simple. At first, I couldn't figure it out. By trial and error I figured out I'm gonna have to restore Super first, then go from there.

Hoping I don't actually have to MSM, but the jury is still out.

Jury is back in. I farkled something proper.

Sentenced to 2 hours of MSM and manually replacing files. Lol. Can't recover. Wish I had reset/wiped in software vs recovery. May have ended different for today. Someone has to be the first monkey shot into space. Lol.
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] jamescable:
So msm did not fix it?
[OnePlus 8 / 8 Pro & 8T Cross Device Development] kitcostantino:
Booting into MSM was. a bear. Finally got it just meow. Usually it's easier. The 8 pro is my 3rd OnePlus device so I usually just power down and hold vol up and vol down, then plug in, hear the chime and all is good. This time, it kept booting into recovery after I connected to the PC. . Prob bc I borked the system. Live and learn. Lol I got back to 11.0.4.4 just now. Time to rinse, root, and repeat. Lol.