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[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Ravenbutt:
Another great reply, thanks for the help. You see this is what's getting to me: you've got reply above yours pretty much saying do not get it, then others like yours saying it's generally okay. I understand that everyone has different usage for their devices, but with a device this expensive, it should absolutely cover the vast majority of use cases except the heaviest of loads. That's what's stopping me. It's like buying an Audi RS6 and finding that after 5 minutes it's peak power drops to 490bhp because it has bad cooling. While 490bhp isn't in any way bad, you're still losing a lot of power, and an excess of heat is going to cause a problem further down the line which is really putting me off when I wanted to keep this phone for at least 2 years.

As said in my above reply to madpete, that really shouldn't be an issue. I don't play games for hours on end, but it's more about the idea that I have the option to do that if I want to. I have genuinely tried my best to find a way to be happy with buying this phone, spending pretty much all of yesterday researching it and hoping that I find some assurances, but pretty much nothing. The many many speed and thermal tests really don't lie; the Exynos is a bad chip. My question was HOW BAD was it, and did it warrant skipping over the phone, and the answer I got was generally to skip it.

I think the OP8 Pro is my top choice right now, but it's not offered by O2, which is the only carrier around me which gets a solid 4G connection indoors. I've been looking into OnePlus' Klarna scheme thing though, as I'd rather split the cost a bit rather than one big cost at once. As for the 120hz: as much as I love high refresh rates, the main thing stopping me from getting the iPhone (11) is that it doesn't have an OLED screen, along with the resolution. I know the joys of scrolling on a 120hz phone very well, but then I go back to my S8 and it just doesn't really matter to me if you get me?

I'd also love to import a Snapdragon model, but as said above I just don't want to pay everything upfront. Again, I'd absolutely love a OP8, but the lack of carrier support apart from Three in the UK severely affects my decision. As for the iPhone: honestly, if you asked me two years ago if I would ever buy an iPhone I would've 100% say no due to the lack of customisation. Now though? I guess it just doesn't really matter to me anymore. I don't know if it's whether I already like how the S8 is from factory reset (apart from a few changes), but I haven't used Nova in maybe a year or so. Maybe I'm missing some key customisation that I do that an iPhone can't do, I'm just not sure.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] russellcausier:
Do you feel the 96hz makes a difference in battery life compared to 120hz?a few said can't see any difference so was wondering if it really works or makes a difference?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] NickRaga:
Yeah, but does it suffer from standby battery drain? That's a major point, to be honest.

It doesn't matter how you use your phone, if it drains battery just standing there by itself.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] tobias14:
No stadby problems at all, at least this is my experience

Actually S20+ is performing similar as S10+ I owned before, which means 3% drop overnight (approx 7 hrs) with wifi and data off

Even with data or wifi on the drain is normal
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] russellcausier:
Mrwhosetheboss and others on YouTube have done great comparisons between exynos and snapdragon and exynos is inferior! Wish I'd have held off and got snapdragon from wondamobile
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] NickRaga:
If I remember correctly, they said that it's inferior only when it comes to intense use (i.e. with graphicly demanding games).
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] russellcausier:
Inferior battery
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Meakii:
My s20 + 5g idle drain is the worst I've ever had on a phone coming from S10. On airplane mode im losing upwards of 20% a night having basically everything put to sleep, aod display off. This phone drains battery faster with screen off than on. Really disappointed thus far. Hope Samsung does something to fix this issue as its simply ridiculous.

Edit: This was a SIM card issue nothing more. Hope this edit may help someone else potentially.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] da1e8:
Can you post your settings and what you have actually disabled mate.

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] arsenal74:
I did not find battery to be especially bad on my UK S20+ but the camera was very disappointing for indoor use. I now have the 8 Pro and IMO the camera is better on the OnePlus. Neither are as good as a Pixel or iPhone 11 pro though. The Exynos does actually have different camera hardware to the Snapdragon so there is more to the camera differences than just processing.

I package disabler pro'd my s20 to within an inch of it's life and it still got hot. I think it is a nicer phone than the 8 pro and I will miss a lot about it (posting it off today) but if you are in the UK there are better options IMO. I have learned my lesson and will not buy another Exynos Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Ravenbutt:
Yeah I'm from the UK, but the only carrier that gets good signal (indoors) where I live is O2, which is really limiting my options in terms of contract phones as only Three do the OnePlus 8 Pro.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] mikey_sk:
im the opposite, i am one of the unfortunate ones that have the overheating issue with my one plus 8 pro. thankfully it was from amazon so returning for a no question asked refund. the op8 pro is very very fast and snappy but coming from a note 10 it just doesn't feel substantial in the hand. Agreed SD865 is a slightly better chipset but the difference with exynos isn't as significant as the reviewers seem to say. for day to day use you will not see a little or no between the two chipsets. both are lightening fast. benchmarks are all synthetic and do not really reflect real world usage. I mean even a 765 chipset is just as fast as 865 in day to day use. we've effectively reached moores law where the processor really doesn't matter any more. i am sure sammy will optimise the firmware ongoing to reduce battery drain etc. I for one have placed an order for an s20 ultra as it felt fanatstic when i held it and i am willing to have the exynos. if its as terrible as people say i will send back.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] arsenal74:
I have seen some comments on the OP overheating too bit I think these are isolated hardware issues rather than a widespread characteristic.

I agree that the S20+ feels nicer in the hand, I think it is a nicer device to hold for sure. I also agree that the performance is not a real world issue either at least not for me as I do not game on a phone. I think the camera was the deciding factor for me in selling it on just could not trust it indoors. I did think about getting a Snapdragon one from Wondamobile but was not 100% convinced the camera would be that much better. If OnePlus add an always on display then it will tick all of my boxes for a droid.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] whatsisnametake2:
I see this comment everywhere. this is not completely true. s20/plus, rear cameras are Samsung sensor, regardless snap exynos. front camera on snap is Sony, Samsung on exynos.

would also add on my UK s20 plus exynos, the front camera was exceptional.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] matheus_sc:
is bad if you use any **** benckmarking app, for personal use is very great.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] vash_h:
Well I don't have the s8 but I came from the note 8 before this s20+ and both on exynos..

The s20 outperforms the note8 in every aspect except thermal.

I noticed once I set gaming centre settings to prioritize on battery life, it actually performs better than the note 8.

Having graphics set to medium, i can play 2 hours of codm and pubg without the phone getting really hot. It'll get warm but it's amazing. And the phone performs, no lags. Perhaps fps dropped but not really noticible.

On the note 8 I didn't have to mess with the game centre settings but just for comparison I set it to prioritize on battery, there is lag from time to time. Having said this the note 8 can play 2 hours straight codm without having an issue with heat.

Alsoi would like to add i play games with covers removed for better heat dissipation.

When i play games that's really battery hungry like ingress and pokemon go, where there is data transfers and gps usage.. The phone still gets hot.. Really really hot esp during ingress anomalies or pokemon go community days where I play under the hot scorching sun. But same as the s7 i had before buying the note 8, a short visit to the toilet and rinse the phone under the running tap helps remove the heat tremendously. Just take note after rinsing you can't charge the phone until the charging port is dry.

For ingress events I usually bring two phones with me and switched phones whenever one phone get too heated. Esp during anomalies.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AlvinZahran98:
I have to agree with you. I purchased the S20 Ultra because I want to get the absolute best at the time and I think this is the closest one to the word perfect even though not 100%. It has some bugs and so on, but I'm happy with it, especially since the numerous update really brought highly noticeable changes, at least for my unit. I really don't understand what people are talking about all around the net tbh, before the atd3 update there are some stutters here and there and there is a minor heating problem back then but those issues were fixed entirely. I also don't get the harsh criticisms about the entire S20 series' camera. I'm sure those people have never tried the phones before.

Oh and one more thing. Heck, even those phones running SD730 is still as powerful as a phone running SD865 in day-to-day use. People have been nitpicking badly for these devices and I think that's due to the ridiculously high pricing samsung did.

To the OP, I don't want to sound like a biased fanboy or anything, but as far as I know, the camera on both is very comparable (unlike those days when oneplus cameras were very bad), but even though the S20+ doesn't have any telephoto sensor, it manages to capture better zoomed in photos than OP8 Pro. I think you'll be happy with either phone.

Watch out for 8 Pro's issues that have been spreading around the internet though (sudden burn-in after a few days of usage, green tint although this one might have been fixed with the latest update, and some even had overheating issues.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] saw man:
Guys, I paid +$1000 on a Flagship it should perform well in the games, frames drop and overheating is not acceptable in this price range, at least not after 20 minutes of play time
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Reuben_skelz92:
Interestingly some reviews show the exynos bringing better results with the camera in some scenarios
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] AlvinZahran98:
I do think so.

this video and anandtech proved so (I think these are two of four comparisons that have proven the exynos is superior in camera). But I still think that if you're talking about camera and performance, either one is great. But the battery life is really that better on the snapdragon.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] mikey_sk:
If you are in Europe the snapdragon is not an option and importing a Hong Kong one etc is just annoying as they never play well with networks in the eu. Only option if you want 865 gaming performance is to get a One Plus 8 Pro. I had it and its a fantastic phone but the s20 ultra for me just feels like a more sturdy phone. So sent it back to amazon and got an s20. Don't notice much of a difference tbh between them
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] chetszot:
I switched from S8 and it is HUGE step back

TL;DR;

I'm VERY disappointed of this device. Camera is moderate, zoom camera is actually 1.1 zoom which actually works only in very good light. CPU is a joke, really

I owned S8 since August 2018 and this is was the best phone I have ever had and I really regret I switched to this joke S20 device.

I never really paid attention to testing software scores, for me it's all just numbers without any noticeable real-world life scenarios so I really just ignored all users complains regarding the Exynos SoC. I have also never been playing any demanding games, so I really really ignored the overheating issues I heard about BEFORE I purchased this device. The only thing I really care in phones is stability and camera, nothing really more.

What I actually experienced is a moderate Camera shots. It is just quite better than S8 in bad light, nothing really more. In bright daylight I'd say S8 produced WAY better and more natural looking shots. Both stills and videos. So this is first disappointment.

The second one is zoom camera. The biggest thing I have always missed in S8 was zoom. I couldn't get Ultra as I preffer small phones, so I picked S20 and its "3x hybrid zoom" is also kind of disappointment. In verybright daylight it indeed works and can produce sharp shot from a moderate distance (I'd say x10 is the max usable, but nevermind). However, any other light conditions than very bright daylight it is just a little bit better than 100% digital zoom from S8. Another disappointment.

And the last one, the CPU. This thing is the biggest joke of this device. When using indoors, any load for more than 5 minutes triggers the throttling, making the phone perform comparable to my old A3 2016 device, literally. Everything is lagging and is slow. Forget about 120 Hz display now, you can't even have 15 frames. Now, let's move outside, for a bright sunny day. With my old S8 I could literally go to 30 degree scorching and do anything on this phone. It was very hot, CPU-Z was showing battery temp over 50 C degrees and it was just working fine, without ANY lags or slowdowns. With this joke S20 device it's enough to do ANYTHING for like 1 minute in direct sunlight and the throttling starts. You can't even reply to damn SMS without a hiccup or 1-2 second lag which is just a joke for a device with this price tag. Noone in reviews ever mentioned such basic use scenario, so I was very surprised seeing this. I REALLY not recommend this device. I'd LOVE to return it, but I can't.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] NickRaga:
I disagree.

I live in Italy, and bought a Galaxy S20 from Wondamobile (Hong Kong version).

It works perfectly with italian networks, and the Wonda staff assured that works well with the networks of other eu countries' too.

The only downside is that you won't be able to use Samsung Pay (it only accepts cards from the country the phone was designed for), and VoLTE calls won't work.

But everything else works perfectly fine, including network support.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] *Detection*:
S20 Ultra Exynos here and have non of those issues, seems there are completely different issues between the 3 models
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] psykoly:
How much screen time do you get ?

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[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Darkat70:
I really like the S20U-Exynos and i haven't yet experienced any overheating or other issues.

The camera still needs some improvement however.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] wiggleme:
I was uncertain from reading all the negative reviews.

Ended up getting the s20+ exynos. In Australia. Upgraded from s7. Have not had any issue with camera. Heat. Speed etc. Not a hardcore enthusiast. But have always installed custom roms. Phone use is mainly audio movies and browsing. No gaming. The upgrade was primarily for photos/camera. As its just easier then carrying around a slr to capture family moments.

Given its so late in the year. Would be wise to pick up the samsung care package if you are in need of a new phone and upgrade to the s30 or whatever is released next year. Over all happy with my purchase and not a fault to complain about.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Klopers33:
Same here, only issues i had was with gpay - couldnt get it to work at the beginning - now works fine at all times, for gaming i have custom desktop pc - although pubg works perfectly fine

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Btw here in UK, vodafone has offer now where you can upgrade to the newest handset after 12 months of your 24 month contract without paying for an early upgrade - just need to hand over your phone in good condition
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Player04:
S20 ultra 5g exynos rooted, no issue at all, no heat isssue like ppl claims. Can't complain it's $200usd less than the snapdragon 9888. So far so good. Too bad i can only get lte on at&t in america.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] mikey_sk:
That's my point. Imported 865 s20 phones won't be able to benefit from volte and often the carrier aggregation doesn't work making the network speeds much slower

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Other than a slightly steep battery drain im happy
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] NickRaga:
Oh ok. Sorry, I didn't understand that you meant the impossibility to use VoLTE.

Regarding the carrier aggregation, I don't understand that topic very well, but I think it has something to do with the bands supported by the phone. In my case, the network speed goes pretty well. In some cases it goes faster than with my previous Exynos phone that was designed specifically for my country. Best thing is to check with your carrier what bands does it use.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] *Detection*:
Depending on usage around 6 hours, but have seen as low as 4 with heavy usage and as high as 7-8 for things like just chatting on WhatsApp
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Player04:
I get 7-8 just surfing the web, youtube music, watching videos. Cant complain
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] wedeservedit:
I got the S20+ exynos for an excellent price - 566 GBP from Samsung. However, this thing just overheats all the time, with the most minor tasks. Often, won't make it through the whole day with any charge (have to recharge around 5pm). I've decided to return it and get an Xperia 1 ii instead. Shame because my note9 was awesome!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] pietroSV:
20% off on airplane mode? nice troll you are. nobody believes this
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Meakii:
I can absolutely assure you I did have this happen. And I found the issue. It was my SIM card. For some reason my SIM refused to properly connect with my S20+ and even on airplane mode the battery drain was horrendous. It seems the phone was always trying to register a connection with the SIM even when in airplane mode. When I changed SIMs my issue disappeared entirely. Not kidding. Now my device is perfect.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] pietroSV:
So it was SIM failure, not S20+ fault. You presented it as S20's fault
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] kimern:
I bought the Exynos S20 Ultra. Used it for 3-4 motnhs i think then went back to my OP 7T Pro which i am happier with.

Phone is always warm to the touch, battery life was terrible and i generally got fed up of the sammy skin.

For example, ram management is just better on the OP7 and apps will stay in memory, hence make the phone feel faster. Even though the S20 Ultra has 16(!!!)gigs of ram.

The pictures on the OP7 with the Google Camera port also looks better imo.

I would not call it a bad phone per se, but all the little things like the ram makes it a overwhelmingly dissapointing experience considering what they promised, and the price.

It's not fun having a 1500$ phone with 16gigs of ram being out-performed by last years OP model for half the price.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Meakii:
Fair point. Have added an edit to my post. Hopefully that info potentially helps someone else :)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] golfgtiedition30:
S20+ exynos no issues at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] anadarco7:
Same here s20 exynos I don't have any heating issues
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] brockyneo:
Hi guys I have my exynos version coming tomorrow here in the UK but I also have the Xperia MK2 with Snapdragon 865

I know I'll proberly like the S20 ultra more but worried about all the problems with the camera and exynos overheating and under performing

Can some confirm that Samsung have actually fixed all the issues with updates

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] golfgtiedition30:
As I said above I've had no problems personally.

I'm on custom firmware though. I get insane SOT between 6-9 hours of medium use. No heating issues apart from warming when its charging.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] VRaju:
Using S20 exynos in India. 100% confirm there is an heating issue. just open camera for 5 min temp shoots to 37+. Device gets warm.

use google map for 10 min temp shoots. After so many update still have heating issue(iam on Medium power saving mode) yet have heating issue.

Phone is really good, but its heart is a garbage. Do not buy any phones with exynos 990.

Strongly recommend to experiences the phone behavior before u decide to buy.

Dont waste your money. Exynos 990 phones are intended just to receive calls/whatsapp and thats it.

Not recommended for intense task, unless u can take the warmth of the device.

Exynos is an absolute garbage. Feeling cheated by samsung after paying such a premium price.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] brockyneo:
Darn just received mine today I also have the Xperia MK2 with the Snapdragon chip

I don't really game I just watch YouTube, odd bit of social media,music,and taking a few pics ect

Surely the exynos shouldn't struggle with these tasks without overheating as I prifair the S20 ultra over the Xperia
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] brockyneo:
Thanks for the input to be honest ill probably keep the s20 ultra I like samsung devices and I live in the UK so I've always had exyonos and to be honest I've never had any problems

I'm not a big gamer on phones anyway (prefer the ps4) and I've played around with the 120hz refresh and ya it's a bit smoother but im a resolution hog so will properly stick to qhd :silly:

Also got a free pair of buds+ so win win

And the note 20 ultra which I was also holding out for doesn't seem to be much different which I'm a bit disappointed as I've always been a note user (hardly use the spec tho)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] Reuben_skelz92:
Every day performance is on par with the Snapdragon. Not great for gaming. But the main thing is the battery life is poor. Considering it's a 4500 battery and display at 1080p. I've tried both and the exynos drains so much quicker, was getting 2 hours extra SOT and better stand by time on the SD with the same set up
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] gabe_kamphuis:
S20 Ultra Exynos ATFG.

* heat issues *

camera crashes, after a reset and wipe cache, the camera works again, temperature was 47 degrees Celsius !!! , via package disable pro, I have removed a lot of nonsense and unused app, despite that it is a device with cures, I do not need an Exynos processor again . If the S20 Ultra is working "normally", but what is normal? , crashes on a device of 1349 euros?, NO GO.