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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] demonizator:
Same here. I was so hoping it'll become available this Monday so I can get it in the next couple of weeks here in Bulgaria. Now I have to wait even more.

:mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
and expansys uk now believe they wont get the units until 31st August
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Rumours / discussions on the UK expansys forum are now indicating 31st August. Apparantly the product Manager has yet to update the date on the UK site.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jim Chapman:
Expansys UK delivery date 31 Aug, but expecting a large shipment

Just to add to ardsar's post:

The product manager is definitely saying 31st August. But the good news is that they expect the first shipment will be large enough to cover all back orders.

Check out the thread at Expansys support.

Jim
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] robpet2:
is vodafone band compatible with US tmo...

cause it doesnt look like its coming to tmo US anytime soon.. with Verizon and Sprint getting it first here in the US.... which sucks, I would hate to switch to sprint... might have to give Verizon a shot !!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Just spoke to Clove UK and they are still expecting first shipment next week having discussed with HTC UK yesturday.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Also, Fnac, the well known frech retailer, here in Portugal expects to release it also on the 14th of this month. They are very known to rarely get the wrong shipping dates when only a few days are missing.

And the normal for fnac is to release a phone a few days or weeks later then the rest of the stores.

http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Detail.aspx?cIndex=8&catalog=telecomunicacoes&categoryN=Telem%F3veis%20GPS%20PDA&category=pdaQtek&product=2200031072008

Still, nothing is sacred...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Verizon cut the RAM in half and removed the G-sensor from both the Diamond and Touch Pro... Good luck with them.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
A few retailers are sticking to the 14th. Time will tell.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
You've probably already found out by now ;) but just in case - and also for the benefit of others who can't be bothered to read the user guide that's now online on the HTC site :rolleyes: - you hold down the Volume Down and Enter (Center of D-Pad) buttons while pressing the reset button with the stylus!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Eriol:
The German Expansys webpage sais that the Touch Pro (UK/English version) is on stock and available within 7 days!

I updated the Wiki accordingly.

Cheers,

Eriol

BTW: They also accept pre-orders for the Xperia X1 ...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Portuguese Fnac dropped the 14th of this month to 20th
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nice1guy62:
htc touch pro

purelygadgets.co.uk av got the pro in stock:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
They say they have in stock, but i dont believe they have. If you look at the description for the "green" in stock, it states delivery upto 5 days. This is in line with other sites that are giving 14th as arrival date.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] fireblade63:
Seems to be in stock alright.

Any english people around to check'em out?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dgpurvis:
As said by ardsar, all it means is that they are expecting stock within a short enough timeframe (five days or so) that they can claim to have it in stock.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] StaticPlaya:
Same as Expansys uk.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] th1nm1nt:
looks like someone has their hand on one already...if I didn't dump $1100 on my preorder, I'd snag this one up just to be one of the first!

US Ebay Auction
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
Wow, seems to be genuine but is a strange and unique variant that I've never seen before - check out the keyboard in the 2nd picture. It has 5 rows but rather oddly the numbers are not on the top row and are still accessed with the function key like they were on the Hermes and Kaiser. The top row seems to be all punctuation marks. I don't like the look of that at all!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
That's the US version... No camera in front either... If that's true, it has 850/1900 WCDMA, not the 900/2100.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] whatledog:
So that's what we in the States are getting??? Ugh!!! What happened to the number line!?!:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
AT&T ruins everything, remember?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
I just added that listing to my watch list on ebay, I'm very curious to see how much it would fetch being a pre-release version! Wonder if it'll get as high as the pre-order prices for the final release of it on my side of the pond?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
I just had him make a new auction so I could buy it straight up for $900, and I did. I now own the only AT&T Touch Pro I've ever seen! WOOOOOOOO
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] th1nm1nt:
You're welcome...I'd have done the same if I wasn't $1100 down already, and I need it unlocked for US T-Mobile network (though I could do it, I just want to enter my sim and go with this phone...been waiting too long)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Yeah man, thanks a lot. You may be better off, honestly, considering you should be able to flash the AT&T ROM onto your phone and keep the specs (and the front camera). No specs available for this phone yet, I'm HOPING the RAM is the same (as well as GPS, G-force sensor, etc). I can always resell it if it has something gay like the accelerometer removed (rumors say that's what Verizon is doing).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] robpet2:
heres another one - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...s=algo=SI&its=I%2BIA&itu=IA%2BUCI&otn=4&ps=42
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
That's the Euro version, and it's a preorder. When the device comes out, he'll order it and have it sent to you. Won't work with 3G in the US, either.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] robpet2:
damn... oh well im not ordering it anyway cause thats too much money for a phone.. lol.. but on a upgrade price 300 and its mine like a pot of gold to a leprechaun
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Haha, the phone's coming out for AT&T, why would you expect to get a discounted price with T-Mobile?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nabboR:
I've just preordered a Touch Pro!

Hi everyone!

I've just preordered a Touch Pro!

The company says in stock 15'th of August here in Sweden. I ordered it with a contract, 24 month, €32/month and you can talk/sms/mms it all up and the phone than costs about €308. So, when moving my number from one operator to anoyher I might be in for a week of waiting.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
Did you order a Swedish one or is it with an English/QWERTY rom/layout?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] nabboR:
I'm not really sure, since I order from a Swedish shop I want to believe it's a Swedish modell, as up to now I don't know if there'll be a specific "swedish qwerty". On the contrary I hope it comes with a Swedish rom.

I'll let u know when I get it, but I'm counting with a week so I hope it shows up in the middle of week 34...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rakdoll:
Just called to the biggest importer in Finland and they said they'll have it week 34! That means next week. :)

That's good news, is it?? :D

/Henry
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] triball:
I´ve searched the smartmania forum (cz) and they´ve been contacting sunnysoft, when Raphael will be in stock. they said that they´ll havi it this Friday or next Tuesday I can´t wait to get my hands on one:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
there's far too many 'guesses' and speculations about when it's going to be in stock with all the stores. I stopped bothering to look now, it will turn up when it turns up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] aksd:
Touch Pro out in the UK it seems:

http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=25097
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Another one that doesnt read the full thread.

Check posts 204 - 207
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] adityasen:
Just called up Expansys UK. Spoke to a lady who told me that even though the website says est. availibility in 2 days, the shipment will be coming into the UK only by next Monday or Tuesday. So no chance of getting hold of one before that.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rakdoll:
Thats in line with the finnish importer. When they said week 34. Actually one of their many names is HTC Finland, I guess they are the finnish department of the company. So we better trust them. Next week it is! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Expansys UK are expecting first stock to arrive within the next 12 hours.

http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=112678

Availability may be short though, so if your first in the que, you may be lucky to get this week.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Hrm, I am quite keen on the Touch Pro, I currently have a Kaiser. But I've been thinking...is it that much better than the Kaiser? Is it worth jumping so soon?

I remember when the Hermes landed, I picked one up pretty much on the day they were available but had problems with it, I had to ahve it replaced twice and then ended up getting a refund and subsequently an M3100.

I cant decide whether to jump on the Touch Pro or to wait it out a little while...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
The wait could be over!!!!

Well it looks like the wait could be over. Several uk sites now have stock including Clove.co.uk. Have fun!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] billu:
You are right

http://www.devicewire.co.uk/htc-touch-pro

claim to have 50 in stock and deliver by tomorrow if ordered before 4pm
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] benktlottie:
I just got the confirmation email from www.devicewire.co.uk confirming stock!

Payday on Friday....WHOO-HOO!!! :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
Yup its arrived. Just had an email from Devicewire

Thank you for contacting devicewire.com.

We have now received the official UK stock with official UK warranty and UK support.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jwhitham:
Now in stock at clove.co.uk

You asked to be contacted when the HTC Touch Pro became available. We are pleased to say that the first units have now arrived into stock.

The upgrade to the popular HTC TyTN II the Touch Pro builds on its success's and includes new features including a VGA display and improved user interface, not to mention Windows Mobile 6.1.

Perfect for consumer or business use the Touch Pro has the power, the design and the flexibility to fulfil various roles.

Price at just £440 + VAT the Touch Pro is available today from Clove.

For more information, or to place your order, if you have not already, follow the link below:

http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=554F3ADC-4CE6-4139-BE93-68F293B46CFE&category=GROUP1

The Clove Technology Sales Team.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] steveoidm:
Finalised my preorder from clove today! Hope it comes tomorrow :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
Just ordered one from clove.co.uk

WOOHOO! Hopefully shipping to Australia isn't too long.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rakdoll:
What about rest of the world??? :D I need to call some stores right now! I live in Finland btw.

Have fun guys!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
surprising that a smaller company like clove can get something that a large company like expansys can't!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ardsar:
clove is based in dorset - where the HTC base is. Handtec are based in petersborough and they have stock - just depends on the courier i guess. Expansys in my opinion dont know if they are comming or going. The tech support guy was stating end of month delivery!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] burgertime:
I emailed someone on Ebay pre selling in Texas, and he said they were expecting a large shipment by the middle of next week. Supposdly they are working American 3g pros.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
I wonder if Expansys got into trouble for selling Asian stock as UK and hence are last in line for deliveries this time around?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexdin1991:
here in romania, they say it will not be available until september :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] burgertime:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=250281271103&Category=3312&_trksid=p3907.m29

Ebay Link...also he said he would be getting them in this week.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
"Connectivity: WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps"

=

No US 3G :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
What does US run at? 850/1900 or something? In Australia we have both, our main telco provider runs at 850/1900 but all the other providers run at 900/2100. I think the Touch Pro hardware can support both frequency sets so with any luck a custom rom will allow you to use any version.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] burgertime:
D'oh! Guess someone who orders will be S.O.L. then. Well that really puts a stick in my craw.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Black93300ZX:
Well, supposedly if you flash with the AT&T ROM it will work on 850/1900 UMTS... I was going to attempt that, but obviously when I found a Touch Pro made for the US I wasn't going to pass it up.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] burgertime:
Well I guess you can add to your mystique by ripping the ROM on yours and posting it here!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lusta1988:
Alex I'm also from romania, but I can assure you it's gonna be available by max on the 31st this month (this is the latest date of every european online store). Where did u ask? when i bought the tytn II, cel.ro had it 2 weeks before the representatives did. the raphael is now listed in 3 different sites (pdamall.ro for example) so don't be sad. Cheers
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexdin1991:
i have sent mail to pdamall and esal. both said they will get it in september according to their vendors
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] timpollard:
Just ordered mine from Handtec, they say they'll be shipping them tomorrow for a Thursday delivery...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
one of my friends bought his from handtec on pre order a month ago, I did mine through expansys...I wonder which one will turn up first.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lusta1988:
really! That's news then. Maybe we should ask omnisoft...they represent htc in Romania anyway...they might just be first with the pro also. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kempas:
I placed an order with them Monday lunchtime, as at 5.00PM Tuesday afternoon it still said "Processing..." - I don't believe they had stock when they said they did. Cancelled my order and placed it with Handtec instead... (which was also cheaper and with next day delivery before 12.00pm)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] eugioc:
HSDPA or HSPA(up/down)

All the UK vendors (that I've seen) have this listed as HSDPA.

HTC site specs have it as HSPA... so which is it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
HSPA is a generic term which can reference either HSDPA or HSUPA. If you are with 3 Australia as your account says then I'm pretty sure it is HSDPA which is compatible with the UK ones as far as I know.

(REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Packet_Access)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] dabs:
So this is on W-UMTS (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access, if anyone cares)

HSDPA = High Speed Downlink Packet Access (Raphael is Cat8 - theoretical max 7.2 Mbps)

HSUPA = High Speed Uplink Packet Access (Raphael is Cat5 - theoretical max 2 Mbps)

QED

HSPA = High Speed Packet Access <- general 3.5G
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ez345:
If i buy from Expansys UK to be shipped to US i would save money and get it faster...right? I think this im gonna order mines tommorow i cant wait anymore
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] badaas:
http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/prodinfo.php?prodid=25097&start=0&thislist=39~351~948
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] eugioc:
I thought the norm was to refer to a device that has supports both HSDPA and HSUPA as HSPA. Sure this is also network dependant and 3 Aus only have HSDPA, but I'm talking in terms of the hardware capabilities.

So another way to put it... can the phones purchased in U.K support HSUPA?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marker6:
Hi All,

so have anyone gotten this babe (touch pro) in hand yet ?

Can't wait to see this babe in action!

I m from singapore and we don't even know have a date when this will hit our shores:(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] eugioc:
That answers my question in my last post... Raphael supports HSUPA.

I didn't see your reply before my last post. Thanks!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] b0yce:
Just received my HTC Touch Pro this morning 09:15 GMT from Device Wire just charging it up now can't wait the 3 hours!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] billu:
Welcome to the community, you have something we would all like to have :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexdin1991:
pdamall is actualy omnisofts online shop. check it out: http://www.pdamall.ro/Contact*id_3-mainpage_static
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] b0yce:
Thanks, just playing with it now, seems a long time since the day of the O2 XDA IIs/Blue Angel that I used to have.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marker6:
oh man thats good news :) congrats on your new toy ..

do tell us more once you start playing with it k ..

pics or videos will be much appreciated

thanks in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mynameisvinnie:
I'm up for a Sprint upgrade in October... Really liking this phone so far... I haven't seen much in the way of release dates for the US but was wondering if anyone has any clue/ballpark as to when sprint will have the Pro. And/or are there any better phones that sprint will be carrying that I should be considering??
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Yup, last post in this thread for me, just got mine today too.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
I ordered through clove on tuesday morning (UK time), tuesday afternoon they sent a request for a copy of a credit card statement for verification purposes, on tuesday evening I emailed that off to them and on wednesday morning I gave them a call to confirm they received the email and that it was acceptable. I went to bed on wednesday evening australia time (which was just after I called them, wednesday morning UK time) and when I woke up this morning there was no email stating that the order had been shipped. Sorry if it is confusing, the time difference makes it complicated.

Anyway, needless to say I'm not happy, we're coming up to 3 days since I placed the order and it still hasn't been shipped, now shipping will go across the weekend which means it will take even longer!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jamesd256:
For those of us who want a Raphael on a contract..

No sign of the Vario IV on the T-mobile site yet, but I just got this in a news letter from Expansys.

I don't know why Expansys have this and not T-Mobile. Perhaps someone could explain?

"you can also get the HTC Touch Pro on an 18 month T-Mobile Combi 30 contract for only £141.99 . The T-Mobile Combi 30 contract will cost you £35 per month and includes 700 voice minutes, unlimited texts and 1GB wireless data. Call our connections team on 0161 232 3427 if you have further queries. "
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
Expansys are selling the HTC branded Touch Pro with a contract.

T-Mobile will be selling their own version, MDA Vario IV or whatever they end up calling it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gingerprince:
Because T-Mobile will never sell the Touch Pro. They will sell the Vario IV which is a derivative of the Touch Pro, but it'sh not ready yet.

Expansys are selling the Touch Pro which is available with a separate T-Mobile contract to subsidise it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
Still waiting for mine... :( Placed the order in early July from Handtec but I've ordered the Premium one which is bundled with Tomtom software and they don't have it in yet.

I emailed them a couple of days ago when I noticed they had the normal Touch Pro in stock and asked how long it would be . The reply came back last night that it would be "sometime this week", that really only gives them Today or tomorrow so we'll see!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
Well I made the above post from work on my Vario II. Just got home and unwrapped my Touch Pro, that was a nice surprise! :) They haven't updated their website for the premium ones yet though, it still says Mid-August.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] onesolo:
Important question about Expansys

Hello,

Can anyone tell me if the EU version of Touch Pro comes with the European AC Charger plug or comes with the UK AC Charger plug ??

I'm asking this because I'm buying the Touch Pro on the portuguese expansys website, and although the version of the Touch Pro that they are selling is the EU it doens't say what type of AC charger plug brings.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] steveoidm:
The plug has a uk adaptor type thing, I believe this fits onto the EU style plug.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] triball:
so Touch Pro has finaly reached Czech Republic, for a very good prize - 14600 CZK (i think it should be 426 euros), so I´ve already ordered one and I´m picking it up on tommorow:)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rakdoll:
Please tell me does that version have your special characters, or is it the EU version with bacis british keyboard? I'm dying to know. Just called HTC about the localized keyboards and they promised get back to me.

/Henry
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] ukdj78:
Actually it's 597.64 euros :p http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=14600&from=CZK&to=EUR&submit=Convert
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] triball:
you´re right, i can´t even count, ´cause I can´t wait to get my hands on it:p

the keyboard layout is qwerty, at least what i think, but I´ll tell tommorow how is it for real
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TwistedTJ:
I just got a call from Expansys US and mine will ship Monday.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] WatskeBart:
Waiting is killing me

Monday 18-08-2008 i'll get my HTC Touch Pro finally. I had it pre-ordered for about a 1/2 month.

I want to familiarize with rom cooking so hopefully i can post some in the future.

But untill then i can only wait for the phone to be delivered.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Prerna:
Yeah, it's available on www.digitec.ch at 957 francs (same like US$). I ordered mine; should reach in 1-2 days ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lusta1988:
Man I have to give you some good news. I'm buying it from neomax.ro which even has it cheaper than pdamall, and they say the stock will change it to available on the 18th, so 3 more days. cant wait. "Noroc la cumparaturi!"
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
Mine has finally shipped, it's at heathrow airport at the moment, still got a long flight ahead of itself to get to Melbourne!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] WatskeBart:
I will never pre-order again :(

I purchased the phone for € 595,- UK version

Now the phone is finally in stock they dropped the price to € 574,- on the NL version ain't that a b*tch :cool:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] alexdin1991:
i'm going to buy it from pdamall. they said it will be available on the 20th. i can't buy it earlier because i don't have the cash yet. mersi pentru noroc :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] :
Well, I should have order at this site.

It was $799 pre-order. Now when I checked, it is $899.

EDIT: Checked again, and it's now $950 . What is going on!?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Noonski:
€ 574,- that's the price a store pays for the Rapheal.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tarroyo:
I see a lot of sites & links, but are any of these sites selling them unlocked? For example DeviceWire the HTC Touch Pro is now in stock but I've searched high and low their is no information that says if the fone is unlocked or not

Does anyone know?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] b0yce:
I got mine from DeviceWire, though haven't tested it I am sure it is unlocked since it is HTC Branded and how would they know what network I was on before shipping it to me!??

My SIM went straight in and worked and am sure that another operator SIM would work fine!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Syphon Filter:
If you buy and HTC branded device it should be unlocked. The only time it will be locked is if you get it from your network.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mr_Ray:
Well, Expansys are telling their usual lies about stock levels.

Site showing 37 in stock when I ordered, Currently showing 18, and is telling you that if you roder before 4:30 you'll get it next day.

Yet... order tracking shows "Estimated 3 days".

So as ever with Expansys, let the buyer beware.