yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RayB:
Have to agree. They are a load of liars. Ordered from the UK store on purpose to have delivered to me here in Japan. When you go through the order process it gives your pricing on shipping from the UK to worldwide. Place the order. Then get told it will first be sent to China store after the 21st then sent to Japan.

F'ing joke. Half tempted to cancel the order and see if I can grab one online from taiwan.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] bersca:
If you're not satisfied with the company you purchased from, try Clove next time. I ordered the Hermes, Kaiser and now Raph from them and they have always been honest about stock and are very fast shippers. They estimated arrival of stock by the end of this week. It actually arrived a few days early and should be delivered to me today in Florida from the UK. Has just arrived at my local DHL facility:D Now can't wait for HardSPL to be released so I can try this AT&T ROM.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] b0yce:
Just satisfied my own curiosity and can now confirm that the device is SIM Free/Unlocked. Just tested with a colleagues T-Mobile SIM Card and before you ask I am not going to test the 3G reception with that SIM! :D

I can also vouch for DeviceWire ordered on Tuesday and took delivery Wednesday morning at 09:15! Clove would have been my second choice!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mr_Ray:
Got to say the same, Clove have always been great with me. Unfortunately they don't do contracts on the phones.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RayB:
wow,

thanks for the clove link. Just got off the phone with them and the order process was simple. no routing through hong kong, no "sorry i cant deal with you even though you ordered from our UK site". just a nice and easy order and delivery choice. thanks!

just canceled my expansys order. I will never go that way again.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] tarroyo:
Appreciate you testing, it all depends where you located if you'd be able to test T-Mobile 3G.... It hasn't launched nationwide yet :-/

I know it is available in the UK depends if the network on the pro can support 3G, Will probably have to wait for a rom to be unpacked for that
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marker6:
hi Ray

can I just check with you regarding the

warrranty issue ? If you got the Pro from

UK then is warranty cover by HTC Japa?

sorry if this is a silly question.

I wanted to order this form Clove UK but was told that warranty will not be covered by HTC SINGAPORE

Thanks in advance
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] D8mian:
Looking forward to getting mine..

I plan on buying one, but I don't plan on waiting for AT&T to possibly carry it; therefore, I will soon order one frm UK. I hope I'll be able to use the AT&T ROM as well. Any idea when the HardSPL will be released? Thx in advance!

D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
So was it released in sweeden with this layout?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] D8mian:
It looks like there was a delay, but i dont speak swedish..so i dnt kno.

Prel lev.datum

2008-09-05

D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rakdoll:
We use the same layout here in Finland, and have confirmed release date week 34. Meaning next week.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
you dont have to wait too long it should be out within the next two months with the name fuze
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Jorlin:
Who has confirmed that? XD
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] CalifornIyay:
Hey guys,

I checked the clove website and they have the HTC Touch Pro priced at £440 (£517 inc VAT). What does the VAT mean and how much is this in Americanicano dollars?

Does anyone know of any good conversion of money sites because the one I found on yahoo comes up different then what people are posting..

Thanks......
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] RayB:
Hi,

I am not 100 percent certain on that. I think it is only covered in the UK to be honest. The only reason I have not given it much thought is because if need be we have a branch office there in the UK and I can get it back there easily enough if I need to. If that fails I have to fly there a few times per year anyways for work so can always do the warranty thing when I go back.

If you do not go there, and/or do not want the hassle of mailing it back you should jsut give HTC there in Singapore a call and ask them. I can not see why they would not honor the warranty. Stupid really if they do not. Sorry I can not be of much help.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] marker6:
Thanks for the reply ... Would call HTC on monday to clarify.

Even if HTC do not cover the warranty, am quite sure most of the problems

can be solved unless it's the hardware.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] D8mian:
fuze? do you have any more details on this? thx!

D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] OregonAird:
Does anyone know when this will be released by Orange UK as a subsidized phone ?

I cannot find any info about it anywhere.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lbhocky19:
engadget mobile had a story yesterday about the name and said it should be relased "sooner rather than later"

and a guy in the thread about the only owner of the att one said he works for att and should be out next month
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] SchefNRG:
Release Date T-Mobile AT

T-Mobile AT confirmed release on week 38
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] rakdoll:
www.htc-finland.fi

though now it seems that they are going to sell the UK-keyboard at first, which is mad here in Finland! :| So I guess we still have to wait for the finnish/swedish keyboard.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Noonski:
I hate this Forum ;)

I could order the UK WWE version right now this moment and play with it tomorow.

But nooooh i had this crazy idea to Order the NL version so i would have all the original MUI files and Raw Backup's.

Blegh i CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMore.

Can't wait it's worse then christmas when i was a ten year old.

So i'll make this a demoicratic thing.

Wait 5 (or maybe even 7 days longer)

or order Today.

I leave it to the Wisdom of the wise ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Bxsteez:
For those buying the HTC Touch pro for the US. www.SuperGPS.co.uk is no longer shipping to US because of the devices being stolen in the mail or some crap. SO DON'T TRY AND PAY BY PAYPAL BANK TRANSFER CAUSE THEN U HAVE TO WAIT 3-5 DAYS TO GET UR MONEY BACK.

As u can tell it happened to me :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Noonski:
Well i was sooner then later.

I had just ordered the WWE version and the day after the NL was available (today) at Smartphoneshop.

Any other Dutch Shops selling at the moment?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] OregonAird:
Anyone any news on when the UK operators are going to have these phones ? I heard vodaphone maybe end of month, but I'm with orange ?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Halfpenny:
If your travelling anytime soon from Schiphol they have it in now. I bought it this morning for EUR630.

Can't wait to get back tonight to charge it an have a play !!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gorrynel:
Just got off the phone with at AT&T store in NY they will be available at the end of September.

:D I can't wait!:D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] l33tphreak:
@gorrynel: How did you get them to give you information like that? I've been trying to sneak that info out of my AT&T rep at my local store since the end of July and he just keeps saying cryptic things like "well it might be on my list and it might not" and "well yea I think we're getting it but I really don't know when" as he starts looking at the floor and the ceiling and trying to avoid my question. I've been trying to get a firm release date for AT&T because my contract is due for upgrade and my mom is dying to get her hands on my 8125/Wizard.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gorrynel:
I got the same answers from my local store in OH but I called a store in Manhattan and he said the third week of September, I called another store in New York City and they said the same.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Funky B:
I can confirm that AT&T is telling staff during training that the device will launch at the end of September, but only time will tell...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Tregrad:
anyone know about when sprint will get thier hands on it?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] yerp:
i've heard rumors of Oct. 2....hopefully that is true...tired of seeing iphones at work.....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] TheBundo:
Sorry about your mom. Does she know?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] pazookie:
does anyone remember how much the tilt was last black friday and if you could UPGRADE to get it at that price or was it a new customer only deal?...im deciding on whether to sell my tilt now $300-350 (craigslist) and use my old 2125 smartphone until the release and upgrade or wait till black friday and try to sell my tilt the week of or a few weeks before. Last time i sold my 8525 for $290 and got a new tilt for $350 (december 07).
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] demonizator:
Hi guys,

How can I check what version of the Pro am I getting - Asian, European, etc.? Looked at the wiki and found CIDs - can I check what CID it is before I buy it?

Thanks,

Looging forward to getting my Pro next week,

dEM
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] EViS:
Popped into the O2 Strand, London store today to enquire about a release date. I was told by the salesman in a rather 'definitive' voice that O2 will be releasing the Diamond & Touch Pro (Diamond Pro?) at the same time in early September.

We'll wait and see :).

Country: UK

Site/Vendor: O2

Date of Release: Early September

Offers Pre-Order: No
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] foo:
O2 Germany will release it most likely in cw36 - first week of September.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
Order placed. If I'd placed the order yesterday the device would have been with me now :(

t-mobile UK started receiving stock 2 weeks ago, current stock levels at -6

Orders are coming in in batches of 4 to 5 hundred and going out the door as fast as they come in.

Another delivery is due in tomorrow and mine should be with me on Friday for a very well negotiated price of £80 ... back of the net :D

If anyone wants to post a URL for a method of extracting a fresh t-mobile ROM please do. I'll upload it somewhere as soon as I can ;)

Country: UK

Site/Vendor: t-mobile

Date of Release: "couple of weeks ago"

Offers Pre-Order: YES
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] md2:
Is that the MDA Vario IV?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
Yes, it is.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] se4me:
I can also confirm T Mobile UK have stock of the Vario IV, I am due an upgrade next month CS did say a couple of weeks ago I could upgrade a couple months before but the discount would not be as good as I were to wait. So roll on August ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] spzero:
hot cakes

t-mobile had a stock of 200 units but sold out in 10 mins according to my local shop
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
they are flying out .. catch the buzz :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] gospelflyer:
Given that the diamond was released to blow the i phone out of the water (which in my opinion it did). I am suprised that mobile phone companies do not spend more time making people aware of their up and coming releases.

Surely an effective sale pitch has to be key to advertising, then again i fix helicopters what do I know about advertising?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Riccardinho:
Same for me - can upgrade from a Vario 2 on August 31st. Was really close to jumping ship for the iPhone until a mate demoed one yesterday and the first AppStore app he showed off caused the phone to reboot. So why go from an o/s that is generally reliable with a few glitches to another o/s that is generally reliable with a few glitches and forego FM Radio, QWERTY and AD2P I now ask myself...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] andreyamaguti:
in the ebay they are already selling, but the price is a quite high (950 usd and 1050usd)!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mrvanx:
LOL remember, proceed with caution. Its VERY likely the m\jority of the touch pros advertised on ebay are a total scam.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbdirtydjs:
I called them Yesterday and they tried to fob me off with a Compact IV instead and said that the Compact VI was the MDA IV... I told the guy he was wrong and I would wait.

Will try again every day from now on and let you guys know.

Still they got a cheek trying to sell me the wrong phone!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbdirtydjs:
Ok I called them back and I wil be getting my Vario IV before 1pm tomorrow.

So if anyone wants one on T-Mobile then call them today!!!

Country: UK

Site/Vendor: t-mobile

Date of Release: "couple of weeks ago"

Offers Pre-Order: YES
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jasjamming:
is the raphael on a long term contract or outright. if its outright, how much and I hope they deliver to Oz.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] twisted-pixel:
I've been with T-mob for over a year now, but on sim only as I've always bought my phones sim free. so I think my chances of getting one from them are slim.

I've been on the waiting list at expansys since May though so hopefully I'll be among the first to get a device when they get stock. even if I do have to wait another 2 weeks.

the good thing is that by then, maybe people will have ironed out some of the bugs (surely there wont be any ;) )
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mrvanx:
Contract dude, im with tmob but Im gonna go for the Touch PRO rather than the Vario 4. Like to keep a bit flexible when it comes to a contract ;)

Besides the mrs will get the new handset i get with my upgrade.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
UPDATE:

It would seem I have been made an offer by t-mobile which cannot yet be fulfilled: The vario IV, it transpires, may not be available. :mad:

Two t-mobile CSRs have made a serious error and offered me the Vario IV when they shouldn't have. However, on the upside, that offer is in writing.

I intend to get to the bottom of this situation and, more importantly, hold them to the offer they made to me the term ' loss of bargain ' springs to mind.

/developing
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
Don't hold your breath, there seems to be a lot of confusion in the loyalty department at t-mobile :mad:

I hope they haven't sent you a Compact IV
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbdirtydjs:
Well if they have it will be going straight back!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] spzero:
on its way

just ordered minewill be here tomoorow but will be at work n then got people around in the evening so wont get to play till saturday....... By the way T-Mobile UK now have 4 units left......... :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbdirtydjs:
I have just been on the phone to T-Mobile and they are indeed selling people MDA Compact IV's instead of MDA Vario IV's.

Its going straight back tomorrow!!!!!!!! :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] chaps:
De ja vue. T-mo did the same thing last year with the Vario IIIs and Compact IIIs !

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=331370&page=4
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] kbdirtydjs:
Grrrrrrrr was all exited now just pissed off. Oh well at least I still have my upgrade for when it does come out :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] spzero:
Yep they got me too and I did ask if it was the VARIO IV when i rang back the order sheet showed COMPACT IV. plain annoying
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mean-machine:
This is what I was thinking, I took Compact IV for my missus on Monday and she let me play with it until Saturday. When I heard that I could get Vario IV I was a bit disappointed, but I thought that some idiots in T-Mobile could mistake Compact IV for Vario IV, they may have thought that it's the same stuff, or the customer doesn't know, and they know better...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] untjoker:
Ok now it's super weird...NOW on the Touch Pro instead of omitting 850mHz, they have quad band EDGE but left out the 850mHz hsdpa? what the heck is going on with HTC? I just don't get it. why would you alienate an entire country of smartphone users by omitting the 850 band? Even if it has something to do with the qualcomm legal dispute, don't they realize that if someone is roaming to the US from overseas that it won't becuase it's missing that bad? pathetic....
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Johnston411:
Well i'd better start with an apology. My information was misguided. ;)

Uk

T-mobile

Out Now (6 left around 2.30pm today)

£32.50 (wnw flext 30 £100 handset <would have been free on combi 40>)

Mines arriving by 11am tomorrow. :D
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
Heh, you sure it's an MDA

Vario

IV and not a Compact IV ?

There's some severe mistakes being made at the moment, best of luck but I think they've probably shipped you a compact :(
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Johnston411:
Bugger.

i'd better phone up and check.

Take it you got a compact?

edit: They say they can't even check which i've been sent as direct sales are shut.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
Non existent order canceled until Vario stock in hand, probably mid august when they "will be tested for 2 weeks to ensure stability" before being released.

I was awaiting a call back re delivery and I didn't get the call, so I called and questioned stock levels only to be told, again categorically, that there was no stock.

The coward who led me down the garden path didn't have the nuts to call and apologise :rolleyes:

/goes back to square one :mad:
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Johnston411:
I suppose I should have trusted my instinct.

still i get to play with the compact for a few days so it's not all bad. ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] md2:
I don't think its entirely fair to blame the t-mobile staff, if people ring asking for a phone that they dont have but sounds very similar to what they DO have then its an easy mistake to make.

Buoyed by the definitive statements in this thread I rang two different advisors today, one was very helpful and even rang around the warehouse and a shop and ended up saying they didn't have any and they would be in after 2nd week in august.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jasjamming:
well i guess we just have to wait till AUg 4 or thereafter to obtain one.

there are a couple of ebay power sellers in Aus that stock the diamond and will have the touch pro soon as well for a much cheaper price.

e.g. diamond sells for $685AU from ebay shops in Aus so Im assuming the touch pro will be a 100 or so more expensive.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] auriken:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-T...244612099QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300244612099

hmmmm... sounds good?
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jasjamming:
it sounds good at this stage, but in 2-3 weeks time 1049US is a rip off on ebay as it will most likely be 800US or so.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] compact_bijou:
I think it's entirely reasonable to expect someone on £15,700 + commission (pa) to be able to differentiate between the words "Compact" and "Vario"

Even if they are Welsh :p
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jasjamming:
there is no excuse for the mix up. tmobile is the culprit by not training their staff accordingly.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] robpet2:
cannot wait for this to be released for tmobile usa..
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Johnston411:
I'd make you right.

i got a diamond/victor today and when i called to explain this the guy in direct sales i spoke to was completely confused by the whole situation.

I even directed him to the home page of htc's website to show him the difference between the devices.

Not really his fault for not being trained though. I guess t-mobiles customer services must spend days of wasted man hours on things like this.

Still the diamond is pretty impressive nonetheless.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] FabriceG:
Hi all,

I found an information about touch pro in preorder on http://iteurope.eu

Touch pro in English : in stock on August, 11

Touch pro in French : in stock on August, 10

Price : 689 euros

Note that I didn't know this site before :p

Good day
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] Daniel1515:
Expansys

Country: Australia

Price: Not announced yet

URL: http://www.expansys.com.au/p.aspx?i=169558

Pre-orders: yes
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] cassiano:
Country: Brasil

Site/Vendor: Expansys Brasil

Date of Release: August, 4th (my birthday!) lol

Offers Pre-Order: Yes

Price:US $969,95

URL: http://www.expansys.com.br/d.aspx?i=169845

Comments: as far as I know, they ship everywhere and are US based...

And the price is without the inclusion of import/export taxes and shipment

That's it.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] spzero:
I used to work for o2 in collections and it is there fault the (t-mobile) retentions team (the people you ring for an upgrade) gennerally get every new high level phone they are releasing and keep these for free (my friend at o2 just got a i-phone 3g and blackberry bold in the last month) there job is to know about phones and there are paid more than customer services because they are a speciallist department they are paid to know better.. i know what i asked for and the advisor was talking about the handset i even mentioned the hardware keyboard he knew what i ment but shipped the compact by the time we have sorted this problem out with returns etc they will have stock of what we want and they will have done there job by keeping the customer but it is downright wrong what they do..

but as i get 50% discount on o2 i might just get my diamond from them!!!!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] technillion:
This is actually scary to me!!

How can this guy have 17 units??? AND in the US?????? ...when they're not even available anywhere else in the world??? Since when did ANY HTC device become available in the US FIRST????

Sounds suspicious to me...BUT he DOES have the ratings that he's a stand up seller.

I asked to see real pictures of the boxed units and a few other questions that he should be able to answer assuming he really has them.

I hope they are "real" and ooooohhh I can't wait to get my hands on it!!!

T

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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] licht77:
T-Mobile

Country: Austria

Price: Not announced yet

Release date: 4th August (most shops will receive the delivery on 6th August)

Pre-orders: not necessary as they will receive "enough" in stock...
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] LuCain:
Czech republic

in stock: first half of august

preorders: yes

price: 15000Kc, ~636€, ~$1000

//update: available on 32nd week (4.-10.8.)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] foregister:
Hungary

In stock: 4th August (expansys), 5th-8th August (Speedshop)

Preorders: yes (expansys, speedshop, origogsm)

Prices:

- Speedshop, OrigoGSM: 149 000 HUF (€644, $1010) (free shipping or local pickup)

- Expansys.hu: 158 000 HUF (€682) incl. shipping (courier: TNT)

- Expansys.co.uk: 158 500 HUF (541 GBP, €684) incl. shipping (courier: DHL)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mbarabas:
Prices in hungary:

- 220volt : 159.500 HUF + free shipping [€696]

- Speedshop : 159.900 HUF + free shipping [€698]

- CentrumGSM : 159.900 HUF + 2000 HUF [€698 + €9]

- NoteBookZone : 159.990 HUF + free shipping [€698.5]

- PDAStore : 159.990 HUF + free shipping [€698.5]

- OrigoGSM : 175.900 HUF + 2000 HUF [€768 + €9]

- Expansys.hu : 150.000 HUF + 5.250 HUF [€655 + €23]

/update for the comment above :)/
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mrvanx:
People, add the info to the wiki list ;)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mlekas:
read the feedback, especially negatives - he is not a seller, just a drop-shipper & gets material from elsewhere. Some feedback talks about shipping from Hong Kong!
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] technillion:
Does that really matter...

Good catch but I guess I'm OK with that....especially if he gets them in stock early and I receive mine early.

Is there some major RISK that I don't know about when dealing with drop shippers?

T

E

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[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mike-:
...

Anyways... this one would not support HSDPA/3G in the US. Can't imagine to pay taht price and use slow damn speed access to the Internet.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] jasjamming:
some bad news unforutanely.

just spoke to a special someone and the raphael wont be released till end of AUG 08.

that special someone works for HTC in Singapore.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] lepes:
expansys.com.gr is promising 8 days delivery ,i hope your friend is wrong.

i need this phone to enjoy my vacations :)
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] WDawn:
http://www.expansys.be/p.aspx?i=169420

Expansys Belgium says that their supplier have it in stock already. This changed this morning.
[Touch Pro, Fuze General] mrvanx:
Im weary of first batch devices anyways dude, remember the SA issues with the pre 630 batch of the Hermes? :)

Looks like my Raph will be purchased around september time, Ofcourse cooking is already on the go but I doubt I'll release anything ;)