yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Manoj0603:
looks like I have made my life's worst decision of buying Diamond. :mad:

This diamond sucks battery like leech. The battery drops 25% within 10 mins of talk with

all programs off, only phone functions on. Another few calls ( 10-20 mins) and some config settings the battery is flat at 28%. Guys ! are you facing the same. I did some observations,

It takes appx 460ma + while on call( screen on ) ,

drops to 275ma + while on call when the screen is off.

goes to 440ma + for GPRS ( internet , data etc) ( phone on )

takes appx 150ma + with Bluetooth on (( phone on ))

goes to 175ma+ with WIFI on (( phone on ))

remains IDLE with 50ma+ ( no call phone On)

I am checking this on battery status and Power gaurd.

Please suggest if the above power consumptions patterns are fine....

ROM : 1.37.720.2 WWE

ROM Date : 06/16/08

Radio version 1.00.25.03
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pedmond:
Left for work this morning at 9:30 (yes, I was late) with my battery at 100%.

Talked for about 40 min, updated weather 3 or 4 times, read for about 20 min during lunch break.

When I got back home at 18:30, my battery was at 68%.

Please note that I applied most (if not all) of the tweaks found on this site. Oh, and my screen backlighting was on Auto.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] JanDaMan:
Update your ROM and also make sure you use the .05 radio, as it has been shown to be better with battery life.

I find on average my phone will last 2 and a half days or so with moderate usage (i.e. few calls/day, texts, internet, few apps run, bit of gps), you may also consider changing your screen brightness to a low'ish setting as this will help preserve battery life and turning gprs off manually. but I do keep mine on auto brightness and with GPRS on the normal default setting
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ageye:
a friend of mine uses the standard radio (.03) without using any tweaks and his battery lasts about 2 days (he calls a lot of people, uses wifi at least once a day)...

I can't tell my experiences because I'm using tweaks...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] njpollard:
I've been having similar problems, with the battery sometimes lasting just 12 hours with no usage at all.

Yesterday, my battery ran completely flat, but today things are loads better (still 50% left after 13 hours, including some calls and browsing on 3G/HSDPA).

I'm starting to think that the problems were being caused by a program running in the background which got killed when my phone battery ran out. I'll do some tests over the next few days to try to find out, but I guess the main possibilities are GSen, Opera, Google Maps, or ActiveSync.

Has anyone else experienced similar problems with any of these apps?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Sergio PC:
Same here with all the tweaks applied.

My baby will get me through the whole laboral day 8:00am to around 7:30pm.

When I get home batt is around 10% left. I let it die then charge.

On the phone for about 40 30 minutes on various calls.

Weather check twice.

Emails 4 times.

And a quick look at xda-developers.

Works fine, you just have to learn how to manage the Diamond. Im still waiting for a new battery though.

Luck Fellas!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chribruu:
A bit OT, but the Li-Ion batteries doesn't like to die out completely.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] oscahie:
I had a phone interview today, around 55 min speaking and the battery dropped from 100% to 70%, so not that bad!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] oscahie:
As far as I know it's OK to do a full charging cycle every some time, like once per month or so.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Jin187:
My battery easily lasts 2 days with moderate use
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] adesonic:
I get 2 days out of mine - note also that battery life improves markedly after a few charging cycles - mine ran down scarily fast the first 2 or 3 days!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Sergio PC:
This is what I know:

Every battery (doesent matter what kind) has for example 1000 charge cycles that will be 100% Strong. After the 1000 charges the rate starts to fall. You get only 90% after the 1000 charges ect.......

Soooo

You have to make the best out of your charges. The best way of doing this is by drastically cutting of charge sessions. You let it die and then charge it FULLY (and by fully i say till the Diamond tells you its full with its kick a** full circle.

Thats all fellas. Lucks to all!:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] apd:
Same with me. The first two or three days I was barely getting a whole day. I use push email constantly and make regular calls. I occaisonally use GPS. My battery happily lasts two days, although it is very low by the end of the second day. I also turn the phone off overnight.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Monty Burns:
I found this to be my biggest problem. If I turn this on my battery is fully flat in about 6 hours. Until my new 1800mah battery arrives, i'm back to pop/smtp.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] marisa4755:
Just to be on the safe side I bought a cradle which also charges a spare battery, an extra ordinary size battery and every night charge the device and the spare. First thing in the morning I swap the batteries over and pack the fully charged spare. Got mine from gpsforless and it cost £17.99 with the spare battery. Bargain.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Monty Burns:
blimey, that was a bargain considering it includes a spare battery as well!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] DimLov:
I've ROM 1.37.411.2 RUS (original), Radio 1.00.25.03. Can I upgrade my radio to .05 and how I can do it? Because of I've the same trables with battery.

Thank you...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] halloj:
This is true for NI-CAD, but not for other types.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] spangelsaregreat:
Got the same one. So far the battery life has not been great but I am hoping it will improve over time as some people are reportin. Will get a 1800 battery for power use.

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] alanplum:
I had exactly the same problem where my diamond battery barely lasted 3 hours.

Turned out to be a faulty phone, not the battery. Tell tale sign is if the Diamond gets hot below the battery, not the actual battery
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gadgetdude:
I'm getting a similar problem with the battery dropping soooo quick.

And, after a minute or so of use the unit is so hot below the screen (around the enter key area) I think it's gonna blow!

I'm sure it wasn't doing this when I first got it (it's now a few weeks old) so perhaps it is faulty?

How did you go about getting a replacement?

Cheers,

Gadget.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Manoj0603:
When excatly it used to get hot, I mean , while charging , talking or using GPS. Looks like even mine has the same issue.:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] liamhere:
ill get by

im in hong kong soon so ill get a bigger and beter one then :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] murks_muell:
In my opinion it's normal that the device gets somewhat warm when used. After a 5min call mine is a warmer than hand-hot.

BTW it's the lower area of the device which is warming up.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] :
Absolutely spot on. All diamond devices get warm below the battery during use, that's where the qualcomm chipset is.

What's not normal is when you are not using it or charging it, for it to be hot there all the time. That means that something is running in the background which is keeping the chipset working at full power, and your battery life will suck balls.

Usual culprits are google maps (download the update from the google page cos the old one doesn't shut the GPS ship down properly), minimised programs and active internet downloads. Google maps will therefore rinse the battery twice as fast due to active downloads and GPS at the same time, along with backlight on.

When i had the one from work (i got a new job and had to give it back) i had it running push mail 24/7 and it would last 2 days without major issues with about 30 minutes of calls each day. but google maps would rinse it in under 2 and a half hours. new version is better, and it shuts the GPS chip down properly so the drain stops when you close it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] mihaixl:
monitor the power

I monitoring the power consumption with battery meter. Sometimes in standby mode is 17 mA, sometimes 220 mA! Definitively is about the rom...I have same experience with my oldest M3100 when testing some cooked rom. Until the Team will made a good release peace!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Tendou:
The first day my battery life was about 16-18hours, and refuse to fully charge (left it on charge for 4hrs+), after a few cycles now I get about 48hours of use (Light usage, I leave my phone on overnight).

The whole phone should be stone cold when not in use. If the part below the battery is warm, there's something wrong.

And don't forget to turn off your WI-FI, make sure your TomTom / Google Maps is completely closed, not just minimized. Turn off your ActiveSync.

WWE 1.37.456 with .3 Radio (factory).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] marisa4755:
Yup, I thought at that price, I just couldn't not do this.

http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=14034
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Vsider:
How about power consumption with GPRS/GPS/Backlight on ??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] joemax:
thanks for the heads up... tried to get this with Opera and it kept kicking back to the web page... probably Opera 'looks' like a desktop client.

Used IE to grab and install it fine...

But just thought. What version was pre-installed ?

The one I downloaded is 2.1.0.10 - works great though and appears to have more features.

Just thinking my previous pre-installed version had a higher version number :confused:

cheers
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] njpollard:
My pre-installed version is 2.0.1.33
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] SurfHost:
Try Enabling PowerManagement

HKLM\Comm\AsyncMac1\Parms

HKLM\Comm\PPTP1\Parms

HKLM\Comm\L2TP1\Parms

HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\MMC_Class

HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\NAND_Class

HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\SDMemory_Class

HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\SIM_Class

DisablePowerManagement set to 0

Or use cab file i created.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] mihaixl:
At this moment with opera mini running, editing this post 224 mA! When turning to home the battery drains is 383 mA. I have T3FD deactivated...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Manoj0603:
Guys I am still looking for following observations to be checked. if you can test and reply if the my phone is taking right power from the battery..

It takes appx 460ma + while on call( screen on ) ,

drops to 275ma + while on call when the screen is off.

goes to 440ma + for GPRS ( internet , data etc) ( phone on )

takes appx 150ma + with Bluetooth on (( phone on ))

goes to 175ma+ with WIFI on (( phone on ))

remains IDLE with 50ma+ ( no call phone On)

I am checking this on battery status and Power gaurd.

I dont have any application running except , Power gaurd and battery status.BAcklight at 3rd bar ( no auto ), gprs off.:)

Please suggest if the above power consumptions patterns are fine....

ROM : 1.37.720.2 WWE

ROM Date : 06/16/08

Radio version 1.00.25.03
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] SurfHost:
From the confidential HTC Diamond service manual:

When in Flight mode:

4. Measure Idle mode current. Idle current

value must under 80mA, if over the

criteria, it means M/B failed, please

replace M/B for repair.

Sleep current test

5. After idle current checked, Switch OFF

the unit. Unit is turn off and no display.

sleep current value must under 3mA, if

over the criteria, it means M/B failed,

please replace M/B for repair.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Manoj0603:
OOPS!!! how to check current drawn when the devide is switched off?? Anything that they mentioned about the battery drawn when on call.??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chineseleper:
NOOOOO, lol, never ever(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) let your phone die because of the battery. If you want a long battery life, recharge often! They Li-Ion batterys, not NiMh! Li-Ion have more charging cycles if only only discharged a little. I don't have the graph here but it's something like

1000000 cycles - 10% discharge

100000 cycles - 20% discharge

...

500 cycles - 80% discharge

100 cycles - 90% discharge

10 cycles - 99% discharge

the cycles also depend on how much you drain from the battery and how hot it gets. See Wikipedia for more details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Guidelines_for_prolonging_Li-ion_battery_life
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] murks_muell:
Batteries are cheap so why worry? Use and charge it as you want and can.

@Manoj0603: By using a multimeter :rolleyes:

All other types of 'measuring' are only a better form of guessing...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gadgetdude:
Battery problems no more!

Hey dudes!

I've sorted my battery & heat problems!

Wireless lan power mode on 'best performance' = got as a hell & battery lasts at best half a day.

Power mode on 'best battery' = hardly any heat (even with intensive use) & battery lasts bout 2/3 days!

So I'm not sure if that's a problem with my phone or not but its soo much better!

BTW Elite 3.0 rocks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dpduser:
Hi, guys, just wanted to add my own experiences...

I have a full stock ROM (1.37.412.2 ESN, radio 1.00.25.03) with the only "tweak" of disabling 3G - I barely use cellular data services, so for me is not an issue and I get somewhat less battery draining.

First run started on Friday, 18th, 15:30, and since then I left the phone on permanently (no switching off overnight, no charging, syncing over BT only, WiFi setting to "Best Battery"). I've had some 30-50 minutes a day call time, texting, some WiFi connections (email, light browsing). The battery ran flat on Tuesday, 22nd, 20:00. That is, four full days+ (I admit, that is for somewhat light use).

I kept the phone off, charging overnight.

I'm right now on the second run now, started Wed, 23rd, 7:30am. Right now (Thursday, 10:10) my battery meter is at 80%.

I will repeat these tests with 3G enabled. ;)

As many of you have already posted, I was a bit worried after I got barely 16 hours from the brand new battery on the first day.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] murks_muell:
I use mine now for over a week and I'm still in the region of under a day per charge. But I never let the charge run below 50% until now before charging again. Perhaps the percentage meter needs a full cycle to get calibrated. Who knows.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] patterns:
how do i disable 3g?

and how do i enable power management?

my battery is rubbish!!!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chribruu:
Yes they are cheap, but false information has to stand corrected.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] coisman:
Wait, you can actually use Wifi on 'best battery'? I have to choose 'best performance' or the wifi hardly ever connects, and if it does it's extremely slow...EDGE is more reliable. Tell me what trick you are using.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gadgetdude:
Wifi router differences!!

No idea i'm afraid! My router at home is factory default and it works fine on the 'best power' setting. My work Wifi however needs it to be on the 'best performance' setting! The strange thing is that sometimes if i'm not on the floor that the router is on, it works on 'best battery' setting!?!?!

HTH!

:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] podman2004:
Definately be interested to get your results on this. Have had mine 3 days so far and my only downer is teh battery life. Other than taht eth phone is fine. I've enabled lots of tweaks, turned everything off (including the the 3d interface). First day didn't last half a day, today it just about made 12 hours with some very light phone call use and a bit of surfing and tweaking. Seriously considering an 1800mah battery.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] aydc:
Consider a spare battery. You'll use it only when the normal battery runs out and it won't make your phone thicker.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] podman2004:
I had considered it, but having run a model shop previously I know what damage it can do if you manage to damage a lithium battery by it getting punctured in your pocket or something. They go up in flames quite quickly as soon as they are punctured. Could still be a possibility though, I haven't managed to find a pic of a phone with the high capacity battery installed to see just how bad it looks yet.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] medfcara:
......how can I do that??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] gadgetdude:
Hey dude,

Get to it by Start | Settings | Connections | Wireless LAN | Power Mode.

HTH,

Gadge.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] dpduser:
Hi, Podman...

After several test runs, and with the only change being updating the rom to the latest one (1.93.412.1 ESN, radio version 1.00.25.05), and with 3G enabled, I still get consistent three days between charges (currently, I'm switching to flight service overnight). Other than that, no other tweak applied.

The only "thing" I can note is that after running the auto-config software (both after brand new power up and after ROM update) was that the MMS connection settings for my operator (Movistar) were wrong. That was when the battery drained so fast. The next thing I did (after the first 16 hour "run-flat") was to replace that configuration with a proven, correct one. After the upgrade, and after the several reboots needed after initial set-up, I immediatelly corrected it, with consistent three days runs.

Maybe the phone is draining power trying to connect to a invalid access point to fetch MMSs? Other than that, I have not applied ANY tweak to the official ROM.

Hope this helps sort out why some people is getting so low battery life...

Cheers!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kolbac:
i'll post my experience with battery drain.

My Diamond after 1 month of use\charging last about 12 hour with only the telephone module on, Without calling or touching bt, gps o wifi.

I tried several radio, several cooked rom, but the result are always the same.

Also tried some "chinese" battery from ebay, but i have noticed no changes.

So now i've sended the Diamond to the repair center, because i think isn't the normal behaviour of this telephone to last only 12 hour without touching it.

I read here that also other people are experiencing the same short battery time, instead many others says that the battery last 2 days...

so there must be 2 different stock supplies of the diamond or some hardware differences.

what do you think about it?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] laser21:
Thats exactly what I experience. 12-13 hours of non touching it. Its stupid...always looking for a charger. Please let us know, what they tell you at the repair.

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] EazyVG:
Ability to underclock the CPU (Qualcomm 7201) to around 300Mhz in idle mode would greatly enhance the battery performance ... just need to have such application (like there is BatteryStatus for OMAP processors).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] podman2004:
I'm supprised teher isn't an app, I thought there was an overclock app? so surely underclock isn't that much more difficult to create
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] murklor:
Would you even need 300mhz idle? My last phone had a 100mhz CPU... And it even had the power to display the clock as a screensaver, something that's apparently far, far beyond the capabilities of the Diamond. Maybe it need 300mhz to do nothing. It would explain alot about the battery.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] danielherrero:
Hi.

Use 3G only when needed and 2G rest of the time. This will double(or more) the battery life....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] TDO:
That's realy very short.

Are you sure that you dan't have anything running in the background (today screen plugin, ...)

If I don't touch the phone it will last at least for 2- 3 days!!!

What is your power consumption in the idle modus?

TDO
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] boglll:
hi, just 3 days usage, battery last from morning to night with normal usage (active sync every 4 hrs, weather update auto, bt/lan OFF.

My radio rom is 1.00.25.05 (rom is 1.37.772.1 ITA).

in your opinion is it worth to update radio rom or try waiting a few days to see improvements? By the way i just read that updating radio rom causes hard resetting (and loosing all my data in the phone), but it's not what i knew from my previous experience with trinity, maybe i misunderstood the post?

the phone is stone heat when idle...

tks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] laser21:
Well, even with a fresh rom (swift, panosha) It takes just a day to empty the battery...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] TDO:
What are your settings? (wifi, bluetooth, ...)

How is your reception?

My phone consumes 12mA in idle modus. So it could last 75 hours.

TDO
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kolbac:
Hi, try powerguard v1.2 for monitoring the battery current and post your result like Manoj0603 in the first post, so we can compare the result.

i had to wait about 1 month before my Diamond returns from service-repair...:( it's a bit slow in italy...

Hope that they recognize some hardware failure, i don't want to spend a month without it and then they give me the diamond with the same problem...

bye
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] yeche:
Battery

Hi

I have the same problem with the battery, It drain after 5-6 hours of using the phone.

I have investigate it and found that if I synchronize the calendar it drain very fast, If not (Only the Email and contacts) it can stay for 2 days.

I do not have any explanation, but for now I am not synchronizing my calendar.

Anyone has the same issue?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] WMguy:
I have had nearly the same experience. One day it lasts 10 hours and the next day after 10 hours I'll have 60% left with no difference in usage.

The other thing that happens is that at one minute I'll have 55% battery. Soft reset the phone (after installing a program for example) and it will read 45%. Soft reset again and it will be at 35%. Wait a bit, soft reset again, back up to 50%.:confused:

The only app I seem to notice a coincidental flakeyness in the battery is right after I install Gsen. I can't imagine this is the culprit but it sure seems to be the time when battery really starts flaking out...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] laser21:
Hi, how do you test it with powerguard? just start monitoring, then turn the device to stand by, then wake it up after a while, and check the graph??

When I left it idle, screen off, it was 73mA.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kolbac:
set the program to update every 1 second.

then try with the phone module on and display on\off

try with bt on\off,

wifi on\off;

and if possible try disabling also 3g mode.

for the initial result your device consume 73ma in Idle where Manoj0603's Diamond uses "only" 50ma....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kolbac:
hi,

what do u mean with Idle modus?

Your telephone module is on or off for measuring only 12mA???

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] TDO:
Idle Modus - screen off (doing "nothing")

Telephone module is on - 3G

TDO
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] kolbac:
i invite everyone to perform this simple test with powerguard

so we can understand the diamonmd behaviour in idle mode.

From the first result we can see that is a huge difference between the TDO idle of 12ma and laser21 73mA. This reflect the shorter battery lasting of laser21....

we need other people results....

please post your mA in Idle and also what is your average battery lasting.

thanks

bye