yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
I was serious about the warp drive:):):)

The last but not least improvement would be a working googlemaps "my location"

BTW:

My operator ofers a "find your celluar" option and it´s working when I use my n95 but it`s not workig when I use my ks20.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
Since i'm using spockys KisS ROMs, ram isn't that kind of a big problem!

And sure more finger friendly features (like calendar , musik player widgets and so on) need a bit more ram, like all other tools you have to install instead, to get a more finger friendly UI :p

Which finger friendly UI do U use right now?

Tiny usless LG one, 'couse it needs less ram and has also less finger friendly features?

IMHO it's a wrong calculation of the needed ram consumption. :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
like i said !! i have used all 3 of em !! :cool:

why don't u suggest the best one ! with all finger friendly....features and kinetic scrolling ? the one as we can see in coming "windows mobile 7"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
I didn't ask what you used/tested in the past time!

So once again, which finger friendly UI do U use right now on your KS20?

BTW: Windows Mobile 7 on a KS20 would be nice, but without drivers this would be only a dream. But probable we will get in near future a stable WM 6.5 rom!?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
well...currently i am using....spb 2.0 with windows 7 skin...but i am not satisfied with it so will uninstall it !

do u have any suggestion to it !

i knw its sad...that LG ks20 drivers were designed only for WM6.0 but Lg might have to think about it...cos Wm 7 will revolutionize WM series....with multitouch capabilities as well....

i have also heard people !using some other drivers on KS20 but dont know how much truth does that support !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PandaKiller:
I like iPhoneToday 1.2.5 :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
let WM phones have their own identity.....anythin but not iphonz or iphone theme
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tobbbie:
Port BT Stack from Incite to KS20?

I wonder if the BT stack can be ported from the Incite - it seems like the same HW is used (BRCM2045Init.dll). I am hoping that the FM radio (BTFM.exe) application has a little more extra - is it worth trying?

It does not work just copying some files :-(

KS20: 1.8.7.600

Incite: 1.8.7.4000

Possibly also some more profiles supported?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] velvet_hun:
Sorry, but no one is interested in this scrolling feature?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
Ahh I see. Mobile Shell 2.0 has a lot of bugs. I used for a longer period version 2.1.5 (where all major bugs from 2.0 where fixed). But since SPB released Mobile Shell 3.0.1 I'ved upgraded to this version. Has lot more features than previous versions and it's much more stable. Finnaly you can customize the Lifestyle Screens as you want they should look like, with many different widgets.

Check this thread for more customizations: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=507697

PS: Check your PM inbox! :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
This htcscroll.cab is driver (hardware) based, so it works only on few HTC devices.

But for our KS20 you should check FTouchFlo. Woks great on my KS20 with the following non finger friendly apps like (Microsoft Mail, Microsoft File Browser, etc)

First install FTouchFlo V1.4 to device memory

then upgrade to FTouchFlo V1.4.1

There is also a optional configuration tool available: FTouchFLO Configuration Tool V0.9

Hint: Add all finger friendly based apps (Like S2U2, S2P, ThrottleLAuncher, Mobile Shell etc.) to the Exclusion TAP to get best result.

:D :cool: ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] milaq:
word!

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
well thanks for sending me the link !! i already had the cracked version anyway !:D

thanks !

well i stopped using SPB 3 cos of its 7mb RAM consumption wer as 2.1 has only 4 ! however will install again and seee cos i also have Iconsoft PhoneEx cos of its contacts,dialer and today plug in !!

are there skins available for SPB3 and some nice widgets !!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] redrebel:
LG ks20 dead

hello

Please for help in flash ROM LGMDP_EURO the KS20 became error.Telefon is dead emergency mode can not run or power :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PandaKiller:
You need to flash in emergency mode.

Press at the same time: left_Call + Internet_explorer + Power.

Internet_explorer button is located next to the camera button.:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nheric:
Hello

i installed FTouchSL and it's works very well but the horizontal scrolling (slide) in iPhoneToday is desactivated... and the prog not display in the exception list... please help me :rolleyes:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] redrebel:
I did but the phone is completely dead, not responding to anything:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
Don't mean to be obvious, but are you sure it's charged?

Otherwise it sounds like there's not much you can do, if emergency mode is dead the phone is probably beyond saving.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PandaKiller:
Same times I have the same problem.

During the flash operations I'm no battery in the PDA.

The solutions is simple, put in charge ;p.

After 10 minutes I flash it again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ibanezman192:
1)Did you take out the battery first?

2)Guys for flashing problems, post in my thread.You can find it in my signature.Please do not post in spocky's/farah's thread for those problems ;) .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mkmonkey:
Hi Spocky ,

Is there any hope that will the next release fix the SIM card issue ? Thx very much !

Rgds,

mkmonkey
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] redrebel:
KS20 is dead Overall PC Phone will not find me too LGMDP not find phone emergency mode. Is there any possibility to repair service:eek:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] henz_will:
With plan from LG to release several new phones in Winmo 6.5, I am hoping we can all benefit from this (drivers, applications, etc)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] milaq:
see post #1804
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
If a application is not listed in the list, you have to add the .exe manually.

To do so you have to tap (2-3s) on screen (@Exclusion) until you see pop up window.

1. chose "Add program name..."

2. selecet "iPhoneToday" from "Active programs:" or add the .exe manually by tap on [...] (@Program name: ), if not in active program list. ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nheric:
Thanks for your help holy_moly, but iPhoneToday is a today plugin and it's no displayed in the exception list or in the program list...

the only solution is to use iphonetoday in executable mode (added since v1.2)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
Ah, I see, didn't know that!

But you have also the possibility to add the name of the window,	instead of the .exe. Maybe it works that way. But I don't know the name of the home screen! But it's maybe Home???

//Edit

I think the name of the home screen window is Start
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] moesfeld:
For me the exeption "Desktop" (as window name)worked well in touchflowsl.

(but beware the startmenu is also affected!)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yaco1305:
KisS20.5a issue : "no sim card inserted"

Hello All,

I did search if the issue was fixed but I only found that Spocky12 was pointed it out in a previous release (post #915 within this thread) :

"Yea, so far, I couldn't get any 21xxx (either wm6.1 or 6.5) working good on ks20. There were many errors including :

...

- Sometimes, gsm driver loses Sim card connection, writes "No sim" and then, the only solution is to reboot the phone."

I have the lastest ROM version installed ... Is anybody faced on the same issue too ? or am I wrong somewhere ?

My apologies if it has been already discussed.

Yaco1305
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nheric:
Thanks moesfeld.. it work :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
any chances we will be able to port in WM 7 ( releasing in 2010) in our Ks20 ??:confused:

posts indicate with its awesome features...it might target Iphone users as well

!

any ideas ! comments !!:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PauloJ5:
Doubt it. But WM9 should work as it is planned to be also used on the Mars capital, Dahla launching pad bays. I think the Darvanins will also use it as it should then support meditation flow. Unfortunately though the LG wont support the 11.5 G networks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
And seriously this time, WM 7 will only run on ARM 11 architectures with 256Mb of RAM, so the MSM 7200 with 128Mb of ram might not be enough at all to handle it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] extra1:
I thought the KS20 uses with the Qualcomm msm 7200 an ARMv6 Archticture Version and so an ARM 11 Core. Two Cores: 1. 400 MHZ and the second 276Mhz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture -> ARM11 Family

But I have to admit, that 128MB of RAM will maybe not enough for the WM7.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
MSM 7200 is not really the problem at the architecture point, but memory is from the start a restriction of the KS20, as the low dev of drivers (licensing a Qualcomm product is not just buying the silicon, but also the right to partially or completely handle the integrated features). So the low efforts of LG won't give a chance to go very far with this device. WM 6.1 & 6.5 work, but never forget it's still a not a fully compliant device, and GSM reloading is NOT fixed beyond 20755 build...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
guys ! anyway to avoid the Wi-fi to stay conected to the current network rather

than...it reloading and connecting again....when the device wakes up...it some times really bothers when u are downloading something huge and the device sleeps to save battery !!:mad:

any help guys ??

and in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmH8H4wvTcE

can anyone tell what UI/OS is being used...before loading android...the way he browses files and programs and the start page on the ks20 ??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Turn off Power Saving.

The UI is Titanium, only available on WinMo 6.5 with Taskbar enhancements in 23034 build and up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
thats lame !! "Turn off Power Saving."

thats not a solution !!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
You think it's lame, but if you searched a little bit before asking, I consider you already know that :

- there is only a registry trick in HKLM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\Wireless where the default value is 1, and can be changed to 0 to maintain the power state to full.

- the KS20's WiFi adaptator driver doesn't support power profiles

So, if you let WiFi turned on, your battery will be drawn drastically, and not last very long. What stands is screen backlight diminushing to gain some stamina without, and disable power saving as you need to have an

application to download

over the network...

Now, if you have a better and clever solution, congratulations.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Darmach:
Hello

I've been a fan of your ROMs since 20.4 which i found great despite few things i hated (for ex included SRS WOW)

Few days ago i finally found some time and flashed your 20.5a version, meanwhile trying out also 20.X

20.X was extremely laggy during wake up, so i changed to 20.5. When i realized that 20.5 have also some wake up lag issue, i searched a little bit, and found that it is due to 4GB SD card with many files on it. I found version with not included ExtenDir - and it looked perfect

No Extendir - no wake up lag issue ! Great!

But after a while i found other bug which brings me crazy.......... callwait.mid

If i made a call, then (after each 1st call made after reboot) whenever i use sound device (neither it's mp3 playing, movie watching, nor another call) i keep hearing callwait.mid playing in background over and over again. This annoying behaviour stops when i sleep the device, but when i wake it up, and use any sound program (as i stated before) or try to make a call callwait.mid comes back ;]

Have you any idea why this is happening? In your Kiss ROM thread i found that some ppl also had exactly the same bug..

Please help me! I dont want to go back to 20.4 mainly because od SRS WOW, but 20.5 have also such a nice looking (and working) calculator app ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sgmbox:
hi,

is anyone having trouble with the camera button? I can load the camera but not take any picture with it. Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] velvet_hun:
I have tha same problem, and someone else wrote that had, too. No solutions yet. Try to take photos with the rounded button.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] scylla69:
be more precise. to which version are you refering to ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sgmbox:
KisS20.5a Rom 5.2.21109 / Build 20755.1.4.0
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alexhon:
Thanks first~!

5.2.23049 (Build 23049 or 47 FB) Version

Bluetooth High Quality Audio on Clip D-Radio

Connection Failed.

before it can!

KS20 WM6.5 CE OS 5.2.23034 (Build 23034 FB)10E WWE Clean

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] volatiler:
First... i wanna say thanks for all of master flashing here..

Second.... i mean no offense but i wanna ask WHY the update version of "FREE BUG WM6.1 KisS20.5" Rom taking so much time... if compared with updated version of WM 6.5 from Farahbolsey although still has some bug but Farahbolsey always update and update his ROM and the last update is two days ago.... but this WM6.1 KisS 20.5 the last update is August 10, 2009
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ryip:
Did there've any screen shot can be provide?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deosneos:
Two main reasons: Farah just updates the builds as they appear with a few tweaks, Spocky's rom is meant to be a stable lean fully tweaked rom, not just the latest leaked build of 6.5. Second reason is cause spocky has a lot of projects, so this one isn't always top priority.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] beren:
Is possible to make an italian version of the current release using this packages?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=547314
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
out of topic...bt since most members are active in here...i would like to ask..

if anyone has tried....or is der a tv output cable....for our ks20 ? like the one shown in here..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cheque:
spocky, you're great.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cheque:
I just recognized that I made a phonecall

and it didn't show the timer. when I endet the call, it showed 00:00 :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
anyone ???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
You can by as much tv out cables for the KS20 as you want,

and they will never bring any picture to your tv, because the ks20 has no tv out hardware at all, fortunately. :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dimi89:
Holy u are mistaking because in KS20 spec. published,LG have TV out and it is stypid to make LG ks20 TV out cable if it isnt supporting it....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
exactly....thats wat my concern was.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
What are you talking?

Do have any link to does official LG specs (I don't think so :p )

These LG UTC-100 TV-Out Cable is for other LG Phones like the Viewty, Secret and Renoir but not for the KS20. Because of the same data connect of many LG phones, people think they can use this cable also for there not supported phone. But without any TV Out hardware build in it will never be possible. :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Not a listed feature on official LG site : http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/lg-ks20.jhtml
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
sites which claimed

http://www.gadgetroad.com/lg-ks20-the-new-contestant-of-the-iphone-289/

http://www.lifeatmost.com/mobile-phone/lg-ks20-smartphone/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
Ohh jeah, these 2 pages look really official and trustworthily :D :rolleyes:

But now we should really stop this off topic bull****, about a non existing tv out for the KS20. It will never work! Whatever those wannabe expert writers put on there weblog. These a just rumors they belong to world of tolkin an rowlin.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] davipiero:
Hi, all...

Just a quick question:

1. Is there any annoying "low backup battery notification" that come up regularly in this KIS20.5a?

Thanks...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fh4ever:
@davipiero: 1. nope, only wm6.5, so 20.x has this bug, 20.5a is very stable and almost bugfree (without extendir ;))

2. ...? xD
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
yea ! thanks though !! all i wanted was just a confirmation !!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
guys is der any way to start "active sync" on our phone only when connected to USB instead of it starting by itself and wasting battery by running always ??? plzz help/suggest !!

thanks !:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
First one works perfect! :D :p

:cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] backlashsid:
i tried the above posted method.....but my phone got really laggy after that...and hanged so much after every soft rest that i had to do a hard reset :(...

anyone had this issue ???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kushneeraj:
Pl. look at this post :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2863331&postcount=545

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
Faster programm start, less space neede by programms.

@ Spocky

Did you ever think about to speedup the lunch time and reducing the space needed by programs, like word, exel, lgcamera, pocketrar, etc, you put to the windows directory of your great KissS rom? You can make this easily with the help of UPX.

Check this thread for more details: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=481880

I'ved did also a thread at the German KS20 forum with a detail list of many programs they could be enhanced for startup time and need space: http://www.lg-ks20.de/forum/ks20-fo...herplatz-schnellere-programmstarts-ks20-ca-30

Here a google translation to Frensh: http://translate.google.de/translat...mstarts-ks20-ca-30&sl=de&tl=fr&hl=de&ie=UTF-8

or English: http://translate.google.de/translat...herplatz-schnellere-programmstarts-ks20-ca-30

IMO this would be a great enhancement to your next KisS ROM.

BTW I compressed also all executables of the Widcomm BT Stack. No problem at all and a much faster start time of the BT Tools and less needed space as well.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
With UPX, you gain some storage space, but you lose in the other hand some RAM space with each unpacked exe.

I tried many hungry executables like Opera, but this leads to a progressive loss of memory due to a poor memory recovery mechanism in 6.1 builds.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] holy_moly:
Thats not that truth.

1. Only many Opera beta builds have that effect, but these beta builds act in the same way when you do not shrink them with UPX. It always looks like they eat up your free memory.

2. UPX extract the files temporary to the ram, after that the original exe will be started and the extracted temp files will be flushed from ram. Best example for this full working behavior is TomTom Navigator 7 (original size of 5.5Mb). When I start the UPX compress exe I've got the same free ram after the start, aS when use the original one. TomTom uses also the same size from ram memory to run. No different at all.

3. To get the best ram cache handling, every modern OS keeps as much possible already loaded data, but not longer used data, to the ram cache. Because ram caching is much faster than read the same data gain form slow Flash, SD or HDD. Example: my Linux 64 home file server has a total ram of 8GB. After 1h of video streaming the ram looks nearly fully loaded. Only 200 MB free from 8GB, because of the ram cache. But each time there is no cache hit from ram, it flushes automatically the last cache entries from ram to load new programs. Thats also the way windows (XP, Visat, 7) and Windows Mobile 6 acts. But there some older PPC applications who during start the free ram size by themself, and if theres not enough they quit starting. But only why they programmed that old way. Modern software will handle these not by themself, they use the OS build in functions to force the ram cache to flush some data if necessary. If there is still not enough free ram after flushing the cached data from ram, the start of a program will be terminated and a error message will appear. In that case from the OS and not from the program it self. ;)

So, UPX did not only give you more free program space, the start is also faster. Also the boot up time of my phone is right now much faster. Using many UI improving tools like Mobile Shell, FingerSuite, SetVolume, S2U2, and some other ones, who are all loaded from auto start during boot time. Before I compressed all working exe with the help of UPX my KS20 needed a time of nearly 1.5 min untill the home screen of Mobile Shell was shown. Now is see it after nearly 50 sec. And since I optimized my programs with UPX the waiting loading animation is almost gone. And finally mostly I couldn't enter my pin during boot time, because of many splash up screens (FingerSuite/SetVolume), and waiting animations during boot. Right now its always possible to enter the pin during boot time. :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Major A:
Well I know all those behaviours, but if you look close to the gwes, filesys and cprog services, the benefits of UPX reduces. Since most of those apps handle a large amount of bitmaps, most of resources are linked to a visual charge handled pretty badly by WM 6.1 (it's better in 6.5).

Control the amount of gdi fetched over gwes could be an efficient optimization combined with UPX, but this derivates from the philosophy of Spocky's rom which never focused on a global cooked rom. This is the real problem with Opera when the exe is compressed, the exe by itself is not so large in memory, but processes remain quickly overcharged. Now, latest builds are more conservative with a good ini file, but memory comsuption remains pretty the same.

The good approach could be to build a test PI with re-cabbed apps containing UPXed executables.