yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] joshua1982:
Hi,

right now on my Elfin I've got :

IPL 3.07.0002

SPL 3.10.cmon

installed,

should I upgrade IPL and if so, how ?

Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sindaco:
3.10

tested ELFIN_USPL_310.zip and IPL_3.10.zip with ELF and work find, i used RRUhttp://rapidshare.com/files/165582174/RUU.zip for updare it

1° a update IPL_3.10 an then i update ELFIN_USPL_310
[Touch GSM ROM Development] beaut:
Hi,

Mine is an Elfin bought in India (P3452)

i've d'loaded the latest IPL & SPL from Post#5

1. Turns out IPL 3.10 is actually 3.07 as reported by RUU while attempting to update.

2. Please inform whether its really advisable to upgrade IPL/SPL from my existing 2.27/2.28 to latest 3.10 if i'm not planning a ROM upgrade atm.

I'm not facing problems though sometimes (1 out of 5) when i reboot, i get a 'No Sim Present' error. Rebooting again usually works. So hoping new IPL/SPL may solve this?!

Thanks & Cheers!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] beaut:
In continuation to above previous post,

1. Took a deep breath and went ahead with the upgrade! (Both IPL/SPL to 3.10)

The IPL 3.10 although showed as 3.07 in the RUU, after update showed correctly as 3.10 on the phone. Wonder why the controversy!

2. After update, i feel booting takes a tad bit longer and similarly the phone is a tad bit sluggish. Particularly while clicking on the X button, the HTC task manager lazily opens its drop down jaw!.....Maybe its just a feeling i have..and no other problems so far.

3. The 'No Sim Present problem as mentioned in my above previous post seems to have corrected. Booted 5 times in a row without it. So alls well i guess :)

Cheers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] beaut:
continued from above!...Been several hours now and i've noticed a marked improvement in Device Audio!

I confirm updating IPL/SPL from 2.27/2.28 to 3.10 has improved the tone of audio on my Elfin. (Plays sharper, clearer). Even the notification sounds, ringtones play a tone better. No illusion here, I'm certain!

Also the 3rd party "SRS WOW HD" plugin performs noticeably better - The presets are much more distinguishable! Anybody else found this?!

Cheers!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kpirlo:
Hi I upload IPL 3.10.0002 and SPL 3.07.cmonex to my Elf but after 15min working.The Efl shut-down and now I can't start it and go to bootloader mode.The battery was over 90%.

Can I do something to started?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mr.moito:
blocco p3450 ipl/uspl 3.07

I ask you a kind aid, I have a ELF P3450 currently me meeting with IPL 2.27 and UPL 2.28, I have tried to dawn l' IPL/USPL to the 3.07, but the cellular one jams does not work with no ROM, unless with that it originates them. Thanks
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tejjyid:
me too, sort of

I have the same problem with the 2.27 / 2.28 combo, but I also had it with the stock ROM (1.xx) when I bought this thing - that was the main reason I started playing around with upgrading the ROM. In the past, 24 hours rest has cured it, I have no idea how or why this can be so.

If anyone has an idea on whether this is software fixable, I'm certainly interested.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] wolfes1126:
I got Error [270] Update Error

The image file is corrupted. Please ceck your update utility.

I currently have:

IPL 2.21.0002

SPL 2.23.0000

Why cant i update or flash anything anymore on my ELFIN ????

Can anyone please help me ???
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
u need to follow the white screen method to flash the USPL because original SPL (SPL 2.23 in this case) has protection against it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] shan2129:
hi there !! :D

I have the ELF.. and i wanted to urgrade to the 3.10 Hard USPL ?? how to and can i ??

where do i find the files.. enablerapi and certspc.. ??

thanks
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
maybe

go to: Elf/Elfin Unbricker (Gold Card) & then Unbricker ROM discovered (wildcard CID and Model ID) with an HTC test-only ROM
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
Hi!

I think you hspl to anything.

For Elf just normal uspl 3.10

theme here: "Hard-SPL 3.07 - yes with overwrite protection"
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nunoamorim:
Help

Hi, how did you managed to get out of it?

I have the same problem

Regards
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sumeshks:
whatever i may try but I am getting this corrupt image error...Alway :(

Here is my device info.......Please help...

HTC Touch device information - by dsixda

Touch version : Elf

Device ID : ELF010000

CID : DOPOD001

IPL : 2.20.0002

SPL : 2.20.0000

ROM Version : 2.20.710.2

ExtROM Version : Blue Elves v5.0

Operator Version: None

AKU Version : 1.1.0

Page Pool : 8 MB

RAM Size : 64 MB

ROM Size : 128 MB

Model No. : ELF0101

Part Number : 99HDM035-00
[Touch GSM ROM Development] zxt:
For Elfin download and run this (Elfin HSPL) -> http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130773&d=1226978473

For Elf download and run this (Hard SPL for Elf) ->http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129774&d=1226657156

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more detailed instructions:

this is to flash any SPL: either update to hardspl this way or flash another spl over hardspl. (copied from other post)

0. make sure your device is synced to activesync!!

1. Run the elf-uspl.exe from ELF_USPL_2.26.0000.zip

2. Watch Screen and Press Enter When Asked.

3. Screen should Jump to White on Phone and on PC Flashing Loading Bar will Show.

4. Stuck in Black Ducky Loading Screen?, check Active Sync Connection or Do a hard reset on Phone first. But be sure to do the last Actual Flashing in White Screen. Sometimes this needs a few tries to go through white screen.

5. Done.

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Hard reset your device first because when I didn't do hard reset no matter how many times I've tried it just won't work so hard reset it first to save time. After hard reset, mine took 2 tries before it went to white screen and after that it went all the way. Then you can flash a shipped or cooked rom after that.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
Hello fellas. I've been reading all over the internet for a solution to this; don't want to post if the info is allread out there. However, I can't seem to find a solution that is working for me. Maybe you can help me.

I flashed HardSPL 3.07.cmonex succesfully. I then proceeded to install IPL 3.10.0002 and Radio 3.34.90. All apparently successfull. However, when I try and start the phone now it is stuck in the "smart mobility" screen, just rebooting after ~10 seconds, and the same repeats itself. I've tried soft-reseting, hard-reseting and tried flashing a new cooked rom. All to no avail.

Any suggestions? This started happening after I flashed HardSPL 3.07.cmonex.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
contact cmonex to downgrade the HSPL to some other version like 2.28 or 2.26
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
I will do that. Thanks! I noticed, however, that cmonex has not been online in 5 days. Is there anything I can try if he doesn't read or answer to my pm in some time?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
better not experiment with the device. wait for her to answer ur questions.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
Affirmative :) I will wait for her to reply and hopefully be willing to help me out. I really feel handicapped without my Elf :S
[Touch GSM ROM Development] spookydownunder:
Hi, Please help.

I want to update my rom from Blue Elves. I have been told that that ROM just bypasses CID unlocking etc, and that I will have to start from scratch.

I have been pointed to this site and told I need the 3.07 latest. I notice however that there seems to be 3.10 as well, and I am starting to get confused.

Is it possible to point me in the direction of a "directions for dummies" explenation of what I need to download, and do? I want to change ROM to Touch Essential, as it seems it might be more slimmed down:_ http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=415880

I have checked my device info and it is shown in my sig. I'm a bit worried about downloading wrong file, or doing things in wrong order, or in fact not having the right programs full stop.

Thanks for any help available.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Flar:
Poll removed after request by the OP.

Greetz,

Flar
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
thanks....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] arkasha:
So can you use elfin_uspl_310 with elf 3450? Actually I have:

Touch version : Elf

Device ID : ELF010000

CID : HTC__102

IPL : 3.10.0002

SPL : 3.07.0000

ROM Version : 2.20.710.2

ExtROM Version : Blue Elves v5.0

Operator Version: None

AKU Version : 1.1.0

Page Pool : 8 MB

RAM Size : 64 MB

ROM Size : 128 MB

Model No. : ELF0300

Part Number : 99HDM057-00

MCC+MNC : Not found

Please tell me if I can upgrade Spl with the elfin one.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] melih43:
I had same issue. I installed RUU_Elf_HTC_WWE_1.11.405.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93.90_Ship.exe after İ upgraded to 3.10.cmon but I couldn'T install any wm6.1 rom. I reinstalled RUU_Elf_HTC_WWE_1.11.405.1B_4.1.13.42_02.93.90_Ship.exe again. This time ıI upgraded my ipl/spl to 2.28.00 but still same problem..

what should I do?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] akrapovich:
Splash SPL + USPL

First of all, let me say hello and present myself.

going to matters, I just got the spanish vodafone operator HTC Touch Elfin and wanted to instal Onyx 4.2 ROM (thanku dsixda!!!) .

I've CID unlock and upgrated up to IPL 2.27.0002 and SPL 2.28.0000. following the procedure on 1st page but Onyx 4.2 is recommended on HardSPL 3.10 and IPL 3.10, so I still have some questions:

1) Is it possible to flash if my vodafone ROM OS is based on WM6?

2) My CID is unlock, can I upload directly from bootloader both HardSPL and IPL? or should i go through white screen again (1st page procedure)?

Sorry for these 2 questions but I haven't found any answer in previous pages (you always talk about white screen method even if some people have used bootloader...)

zanks! (an sorry for the brick...)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ahc2008:
How do i see my IPL?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
Hold the camera button while pressing the resetbutton with your stylus. Keep holding the camera button til you enter the bootloader (three colours). It should display your IPL and SPL. Just reset your device again after viewing these values.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
Flashing dump the original firmware 2.2* ROM, make a few restart without sim and microSD card, that would run Windows mobile.

Then You need to change hspl aka SPL 3.07.cmon to normal uspl 2.28 v 2 or hspl 2.28!

To do this you need to complete full procedure uspl, starting the program elf-uspl.exe (with the "penguins and white screen")
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
Thanks for your assistance DizM!

Could you please elaborate on what I should flash, though? Should I flash an original rom of version 2.2.*? I don't know my CID, though, and I can't get it now afaik.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
If so ROM, which have now all the work, (to hspl 3.07 conn), we can not flashing.

In spl / uspl / hspl 3.07-3.10 there is a bug that prevents windows mobile start launching (some of Elf/3450).

Your hspl 3.07 does not change the spl. Instead it shall need to change to uspl not above uspl v 2.28.

CID can get to the bootloader via mtty and usb sniffer.

CID until you unnecessary. Your need only tested any custom ROM M 6.1.

Perhaps you have that right now.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
I am very sorry, and I do not mean any disrespect, but I don't understand what you are suggesting.

I should change the SPL to v 2.28 and flash an original rom with the correct CID? And I can find the CID from bootloader via mtty and usb sniffer? I don't understand that last part though about "CID until you unnecessary".

I greatly appreciate your help!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
No. Need a ROM, which worked correctly on your Elf. With ROM device starts? ROM Onyx Jr 4.1.4 worked with you before?

Yes, CID can be found. But, Now you do not need this. Original full ROM you not help.

Yes.

Do soft reset, 5-10 any more time, until boot the system.

Then then make uspl 2.28.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
I've tinkered around and found my DEVICE ID and CID ID. Does that help?

DEVICE ID: ELF010000

CID ID: HTC__H10

I've tried soft-reseting probably a dozen times, and it doesn't appear to make any change. No matter how many times I soft-reset the device will not get past "smart mobility". Onyx Jr 4.1.4 worked previously and is currently flashed to the Elf.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
the problem in your case is that the device is stuck at smart mobility because of HSPL 3.07 which your Elf doesn't support. u can try flashing any ROM, cooked or original, it won't help. u need to contact cmonex in order to downgrade your HSPL to some lower version like 2.28 or below.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
I have tried contacting cmonex on pm (19-1-2009), but I haven't received a reply yet.

I miss my Elf :'(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
there is no other way to revive it except her help (she had been busy last few days). i've PM'ed her as well, so better not experiment yourself coz it might brick it completely.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
All right, do not experiment :-)

Thanks a lot for your help and efforts so far DizM and htctouchp! I really appreciate it!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
AndyGizzle

Try still flash any ROM. For example, DUMPED or COOKED ROM (get on the official HTC site on S/N and make no ipl/ spl/radio/splash cooked rom). May be you device will work, after 5-10 soft reset, without/with sim & microSD.

I have everything turned out

These guys will help us! I believe;)

Htctouchp & Cmon! We believe and expect. Thank you!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AndyGizzle:
Thank you for your effort, DziM, but after htctouchp's warning of completely bricking my Elf I think I will wait for a method to downgrade the SPL before attempting any more flashing or otherwise experimenting with different solutions. Furthermore I am not confident in cooking any roms, which means I would probably f*** up trying to do so.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
Ok guy. If Htctouchp will be able to do so, it will be a revolution! A new way to unlock spl cid, without a pof "white screen".

He was able to make hspl. He knows how to make unhspl. ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nu-lex:
Thank you..:D:D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] blood-b:
How can I revive my HTC Touch Elf (64/128) ???

Dear all,

HTC TOUCH ELF DEAD

After downgrade my elf 1.14 CID Orange UK on elf 1.11.707.1B and unlocked this CID, I'm upgrade IPL & SPL on 3.07.0000 and Radio on v.03.21.90 all without any problem. Next I'm used "TOOLS" for backup this systems. Now I've backup_ExtROM.nb, backup_GSM.nb, backup_IPL.nb, backup_MainSplash.nb, backup_SPL.nb. Next in the utility 'htcrt' changed Device: Elf/Touch; Model ID: from ELF0***** to ELF010000 Country ID: from 11111111 to HTC__001 Version: 1.00.000.0 to 1.11.707.upg. Firmware contens from backup this fiveth and BUILD! After lull flashing this elf restart and DEAD

I can not do anything !! nothing's happened... I have a frozen black screen...No green or orange light

I changed the battery same situation always frozen screen

I can not enter in bootloader, no soft reset; no hard reset

Can you help me, Please :(:(:( ???
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pelgrim:
What steps to take

Hi all,

I want to put a new ROM (Onyx) to my Elf (64mb/128mb).

I'm following the steps as shown in the thread about onyx.

I installed hardSPL 3.10 and IPL 3.10, but now I ...

EDIT: solved my problem !!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ms2405:
hello,i got an elfin wit ipl 2.26.0002 and spl 2.26.0000 and i can only go to bootloader, i can't connect activesync and here is my question how can i downgrade or upgrade it in ipl and/or spl to get it work back again because it isn't. I am newbie in this topic and only know about my device is from orange uk and it's elfin,please tell me how to flash rom without activesync and RUU.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Tianjun:
Nice!

Already tried! Nice job!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] zarei175:
hi guys!

my phone ( elfin) ipl is 2.2x and spl is 3.10 Cmon. how can i upgrade ipl to 3.10.0002?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
If it doesn't allow you to do it from bootloader then use the "white screen" method to flash it, i.e. Use same method used for flashing the original USPL but replace the USPL's NBH with the IPL's NBH.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] zarei175:
hi dsixda!

please describe more! i am newbie :))

how can do it from bootloader??
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Lokosis:
Download IPL_3.10.zip from -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2416770#post2416770. Extract the .nbh file, and move it into a folder you have the RUU (Rom Update Utility) in and run it, follow procedures.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
Some Touch after the procedure uspl 3.10 (without ipl), not flashing ipl 3.10 with Rom Update Utility.

Need flashing from microSD.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] zarei175:
Lokosis and DizM... thanks very much!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cmonex:
temporary unbricking solution for Elfs in 3.xx bootloader

(er, it was me who made hspl)

it is easily possible to flash spl via lnbs in mtty even in the case of hspl, but i'm trying to make this more user friendly. until then here's process via mtty, but if it is not clear please don't bug me with questions. you have 2 options, wait for user friendly version, or figure out how to follow these *clear* instructions at this link: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3395787&postcount=155
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
Yes!

Rock 'n' roll is alive!

cmonex Thank you! :* ;)

Now the show goes on!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
ok guys, this is the time for updating our IPLs/SPLs again :D. just finished patching new SPL 3.14 for our devices. you can download the new IPL & USPL 3.14 in post 6 on first page. special thanks to GPRS for sharing the original source of the IPL and SPL.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
!Aman! Thank you!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] daymon:
Works IPL & USPL 3.14 on Elf ??

Thank you, Aman
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
it may not work on all Elfs. u have to try it yourself.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GPRS:
Great！

I will upload the oemdriver
[Touch GSM ROM Development] DizM:
GPRS

This is something that it enough for stability.

Thank you!

New logo battery charge only see me?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] daymon:
Don´t work on my Elf
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
which IPL/USPL version works for you? did you try to downgrade the IPL to previous working IPL?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ckpv5:
Thank you

SPL&IPL 3.14 works well on my Elf. Thanks Aman.

Edit: The animated charging icon in standby mode while plugged in is cool.

Rgds
[Touch GSM ROM Development] synth:
Is there any possibility to get this without the charging-graphic?

In my eyes it's not positiv the display and background-leds are always activated (at the minimum the time elf/elfin is charging).

thnx, best regards, great work!!!

synth
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Duwe:
works peeerfect on my elf ;)

thx a lot!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mymobilehtc:
SPL.nxx

here is my file spl.nbx.

but one question is what is spl.nbx and what is the use of this file ?

how can i use spl.nbx to elf ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nixeus:
Work in my ELF :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nixeus:
OOO sorry, an error, with this ipl/spl on my ELF, i cannot flash my elf with other rom !!!

" Invalid Model ID"

Have you on idea ?

Thanks a lot !
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
u MUST keep the model id of the ROM to ELF0*****
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mymobilehtc:
U are avoid me.

here is my file spl.nbx.

but one question is what is spl.nbx and what is the use of this file ?

how can i use spl.nbx to elf ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mitesh20360:
i have flashed 3.14 ipl on my elfin

working good
[Touch GSM ROM Development] daymon:
Works for me: IPL 2.27.0002 USPL 2.28.0000 V2

I upgraded 3.14, reached 100% and reset, but still the same (2.27-2.28) ??
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kkrraazzyy:
hey it shows image error
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Huckleberry88:
Thanks for the 3.14!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Adamsnake:
Just done my ELF, from the start to the 3.14 lol cheers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Elin28:
Thanks for the 3.14. But I got trouble on flashing to it. My Elfin was flashed to 3.10 (Both IPL & SPL) before and I tried to flash to 3.14, but no sucess to SPL. I tried to use both method (RUU or white screen)..I can only successfully flash the IPL but not the SPL...Is there any ways to fix it?

my Elfin now is

IPL 3.14.0002

SPL 3.10.cmon

Any idea how to fix it?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] alhuang69:
I expect that you did soft reset after installed the 2 cabs... cert & enable cabs .. you must switch off the device to instead the soft reset.....

Flash it again ... I believe it must works.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Pteer Griffin:
so do i always have to reinsall cert and enable cabs each time i want to upgrade hspl? i tried the white screen method the first time and only the ipl got installed. then i tried your method of renabling the cabs and then it finally worked. but that's kind of a pain isn't it (reinstalling the cabs so the penguin would show up)?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
those cabs are only required if you are using a shipped ROM, otherwise there is no need to use them.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Pteer Griffin:
so it's just based on luck (when using the white screen method). gotcha. thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Nixeus:
Sorry but i don't understand, i have juste flash the uspl with the RUU Utility, next, i have reflash my pda with a new rom buildding with "ELF000001", what is the problem please ?

My phone is an ELF ( not elfin), and when i want to upgrade rom with this new uspl i have an error with the RUU : " Invalid Model ID"

Great thanks :)

regards,

Nixeus
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
ELF000001 should also work as model ID, i don't know why doesn't it work for u. try with ELF0***** as model ID
[Touch GSM ROM Development] betonoias:
3.14 on elf

Hi

thanks for the upgrade

running on elf from a couple of days and no issues found yet although i can't find much differences from 3.10
[Touch GSM ROM Development] clv2k:
Me too with my Elf.

Please help me how to get SPL 3.14.cmon
[Touch GSM ROM Development] flaviopac:
Any difference with the new 3.14s?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
You and I have the same phone, I believe. I went to IPL/SPL 2.27/2.28 last night. Basically you want to flash the USPL first before you flash a anything else. Your steps are correct -- make sure you have ActiveSynch running with the USB on. After you have the USPL, you can flash directly from the RomUpdateUtility.exe without removing any card or doing the extra steps previously. You can even flash from the bootloader if you have USPL.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
glady brother! jus give me some time ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Been using the Orange UK 2.27 WWE for a day now. It is reasonably fast, although of course it is not going to be as speedy as UCE or PDAViet.

I think I'll keep this one for a bit until something new comes along soon! (What's the point updating my sig when it's changing every half day!)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ChiemY:
sorry for the long time i take to upgrade my elf but i need it this week end ;)

i have ugrade in one step ipl and uspl directly from the bootloader:

IPL: 1.19.0002 to 2.26.0002

USLP: 1.19.0000 to 2.26.0000

Join this 2 Attached files in a new one (ELF_IPL-USPL_2.26.0000.zip).
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Lokosis:
Sorry for the late reply...

That makes it easier for me, just curious what the reason in the 3rd post is for downgrading if you have a pre 2.26 device, but it's actually skippable?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] badaas:
All done, went from 1.11 USPL (pof) to 1.17 USPL to 2.26 IPL/USPL with ELF_IPL-USPL_2.26.0000.zip (had to take SIM/SD card out to flash else got 206 error), then went to IPL 2.27 from tri-color bootloader, rebooted all fine, reset to tri-color bl then flashed 2.28 SPL, reboot to OS, all good. Then reflashed AB 9.03 UCE from tri with cards in, as suggested earlier, everything A-OKAY!

thanks all :D