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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
You most definitely can not ensure that what you are saying is absolutely true, signal quality is different based on carrier, geography, antenna locations, number of users, carrier agregation, and of course device performance, among some other factors, you may talk about YOUR own and sole experience , I have an exynos 975F, and travel a lot by road, there I have been able to see how signal reception behaves, and it is good, very good in general, In trips of about 1000 to 1400 km there are ocassional signal drops (3,4 times and just for 2,4 minutes) , but due to lack of cell towers, that is, in sparsely or non populated mountaineous places, in cities, I have never experienced signal drops, ciities ranging from 1000 to the capital with 10,000,000 people , I have visited more than 30 cities and countless towns and traveled thousands of km of road, so, I think I have a clear picture in my coutry, that is, in which signal is not a problem whatsoever
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
Does there happen to be a fix or anything we can do, without having to get a new device?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] :
the p40 pro i had briefly had consistently worse signal than my note 10+

can i go around claiming huawei are crippling their phones now because it performed differently to a completely different phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
Exactly! All those ranting about "my fing chang fung device" has better signal are really lost! or, they are just trolling
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] romaha:
Before drawing conclusions, show the results of objective testing. Otherwise it's nothing more than trolling.

P.S. And by the way, my Nokia 8850 still works and catches the network even where the note 10+ does not see anything. I can sell it for $100500 :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
ROMAHA: " My Nokia 8850 still works and catches the network even where the note 10+ does not see anything. I can sell it for $100500 "

L0l, good that one!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] CarolinaGirl81:
I have a question that may have been answered. Would rooting and installing a custom rom help with the signals on note 10 plus? I have a note 10 plus and notice these same issues. My old iPhone 6s gets better wifi and cell signal on the same network as my note 10 plus. Is there a way to bypass their restrictions with a rom? Sorry if this has been answered before.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
No, it will not, for all people having this "issue", if it really poses a big problem, using other device should be a better solution
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] scottusa2008:
No, based on personal past experiences if your having signal issues with the phone now you will have signal issues if you root and install a custom rom. The only things that made a difference was the cell provider coverage and technology. For example Verizon does much better coverage wise then Sprint for me. Verizon also flat out dominates over AT&T, T-Mobile for overall coverage. I get full bars on my note 10+, once in a blue moon would see any signal from sprint, at&t and T-mobile would show 1 maybe 2 bars but wouldn't be a stable connection.

Rooting any of my phones (Motorola, Samsung, LG or jailbreaking an iPhone) would not (and did not after rooting/jailbreaking) have changed anything. Sprint has extremely few towers by me, AT&T didn't work well in buildings or on some roads (still well within the coverage area and same town), T-Mobile was a combination of not enough towers and how they were aimed (spoke to engineers quite a few times on this).

Any custom rom will be built using basically the same building blocks as what is already installed, so it would be bound by the same regulations for the phone's TX power. Also I'm pretty sure hardware power constraints also are present as well.

Now that's not to say little tweaks here and there couldn't be made to make things a little faster, but mostly it was geared towards customizations like theme, boot logos, system sounds, vram, cpu speed/throttle/governor/scheduling/etc, changing/removing system apps. None of the tweaks had never increased signal power from the tower to the phone (or from the phone to the tower).

You might be able to decrease the polling speed for wifi so that it scans more often, but that would only make it connect faster and not farther.

You also might be able to make little adjustments to tcp buffer, mtu sizes to make the data transfer a bit more efficent... you might be able to have more control over band enabling/disabling/preference and maybe fine tune when the phone changes to a different band... but neither of these would not change the cell tower TX power nor your phone's TX power.

If rooted or using a custom rom one could change the way the signal bars are displayed too.. it won't do anything for TX power from the phone or cell tower, but it would make it look like the signal is stronger. I know it sounds weird, but maybe for some is the signal is present (like 1 or 2 bars) but the formula set by the carrier to determine signal strength just needs a little tweak.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] King-V:
Been using the Note 10+ for over half a year. Only time I can't use data is when I'm in-between cities which I expect to happen with any phone (drops to E), and then also while hiking in mountains far away from any city or tower (no data at all, calls & messaging still possible). As for completely losing signal, I don't recall a time when that's happened. However, I have the Exynos variant, maybe that's a factor as Exynos doesn't fall under the FCC's purview?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
Due to pure ignorance, many people think that the icon bars show the actual exact precise strenght of the signal, which is not the case, the bars just show an aproximate for you to see where signal is good, poor or inexistent, sometimes zero bars let you conect calls , some other times full bars give you bad quality conections, it is a lot more complicated than just judging by just looking the signal bars
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] scottusa2008:
I would tend to think some form of regulation is in play, not sure what entity would be involved within regards to your location/region...

IMHO the cell providers in your area may just have adequate enough towers to provide good coverage over the area. About the only way you would find out anything a bit more definitive is to gather data. You would need to ask around if anyone else you know that uses the same provider as you and see if they have any issues or problems. It would help to get information from those who don't have the same phone as you also (different manufacturer).

The more data you gather it will become easier to narrow down if it's a one off thing, specific to your phone or specific to the provider in the area, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheInfiniteAndroid:
I guess not... Assuming it is true that cell reception is being capped or crippled I'd love to remove these restrictions and use my device to its fullest
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Nickitt:
I lol'd myself all the way to the 5th page to write; this is BOGUS.

Swap your phone out with another or do your ##update# and enjoy the damn phone. We have Wi-Fi pretty much anywhere. It isn't Samsung, or any company, unless they specifically say.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jpbl1976:
This is one of the most asinine posts I’ve ever seen on XDA. It should be deleted. Unbelievable.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coilbio:
Would you all be more open to the idea if title didn't say Samsung was intentionally crippling?

Maybe they just don't know any better, cause the fact of the matter is people have other devices that do have better signal, audio, etc, all while having the same rules from FCC and even the same chipsets, etc. It comes down to their code and antenna designs, remember Applegate?

There's days my note10+ will take multiple tries to make a simple call, while my pixel 4 right next to it will work every time under the same conditions.

This phone literally stays stuck on the dialing screen for half a minute lol. I'll get a text from people saying they've been calling before I get any incoming call. Don't get me started on backed up texts, those timestamps I can at least prove lol.

I literally carry 3 phones, each for a different line purpose and I love some features of my note 10, but I know not to rely on it for real communication purposes. I can't afford to.

I mean, can't force anyone to see it differently until they've experienced that need for reliable communication and have it fail.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
You need some actual proof to say they are crippling the device. Are all 3 devices on the same network, do they have the same priority, etc. Samsung has some of the best antennas in the industry. I would recommend either definitely getting another phone and stop filling up forums of accusations that haven't been quantified, or try and quantify what is happening. And give actual results.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coilbio:
All on the same network and everything, no cases, all my phones are naked. Everyone already posed signal strength apps as being inacurate on this thread. I mean what else is there left?

Frankly I already have the proof, what's more proof than everyday use. Maybe you guys just don't want to accept any other input.

But here's a quick comparison with my Xperia which is unlocked and doesn't even support TMobiles best bands in the radio.

Lower decible is better, and the note does this weird thing where it doesn't even pick the better tower available.

Xperia

Note 10+

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
Then sell your phone or request an exchange. Etc. Sounds like you may have a lemon. Mine works great. Personally I find tmobile's network to be problematic on multiple devices. But that's just my experience.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coilbio:
So the solution is to sell my phone instead of talking about it..

That's what's wrong with this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
If you're unhappy with the response go somewhere else. No one is forcing you to be on here. Obviously others don't have your issues. Solutions are simple. I also said you could go to the manufacturer and exchange it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coilbio:
Or if you dont have issues with it, don't participate .

Obviously you're fine, why try to discredit others because you're fine with what you're given?

Honestly no skin off your back but you act like you work for Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
You're right this is no skin off my back. And I posed 2 different solutions for you. Don't try and lash out at me just because you don't like solutions. If you just want to whine and complain about the issue, that's fine. But stop trying to drag down a company and people that are happy with the product.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coilbio:
Dude, it's not your company, and why get another one if I've had a white one and now a black one and also a note 9 as well as the s10 with the same results lol. My first white one I literally exchanged twice for screen defects.

Maybe they do need to be dragged down so they fix it.

I don't understand consumer loyalty like this, if anything stand back and let issues be reported.

It's great your phone works for you, but things can always be better.

My note fits it's purpose, but I'm not going to pretend it's not my third driver because of its signal issues.

You know how I know Samsung has been stuck in a sense of complacency?

The big update to UI 2.1 with all that leftover code from the s20.

You also quoted me first, so..... Who lashed out at whom?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ptko15:
Alright. Well good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] R3dF1v3:
Sound and signal issues? It's caused by the government's mind control chips, chemtrails and the vaccines, I tell ya!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] coilbio:
I blame the Grays
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
Yes, I think Giorgio Tsoukalos is making a documentary explaining it!

Lmfao!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] aspiens:
I switched to Note 10 + from Oneplus 7. Radio reception got worse. In the same places, the old phone works, but the new one does not see the network. Bluetooth is at the same level. At the very beginning of the appearance of Samsung devices, I had two models of the S series. S1 and S2. On them it was possible to change the firmware of the modem, separately from the rest of the firmware. And there were firmware versions for the modem that worked much better than the rest. Is there nothing like that on our model?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] scottusa2008:
I remember those days of flashing modem files. Certainly did come in handy thats for sure.

95% sure that's not really possible anymore. If it was possible then more mention of it would have been made with success results posted (of which I haven't seen neither mentioned).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
I use Poweramp with no sound issues on the Note 10 plus since the latest Wearables/Buds updates.

That corrected a bug in the advanced audio settings that been a plague since the Note 9.

Poweramp's graphic equalizer is a lot better than Samsung's with more/better controls including replay gain, preamp gain and an optional clipping limiter.

Samsung may deliberately reduce overall gain on their equalizer when you up jack up a equalizer band to prevent clipping especially at high volume.

While Poweramp on the other hand will reduce the gain on that one band if it starts to clip if the limiter is engaged.

If you want to ***** about audio on the Note 10 + pick the fact Samsung failed to use the best bluetooth chipset for HD audio (doesn't support latest bt HD codecs)... or no 3.5 mm jack with a good onboard HD DAC.

That is a legitimate and real gripe.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Guyinlaca:
For those having issues with reception, Verizon or Sprint users should try switching the network mode under Connections from GLOBAL to LTE/CDMA actually does boost the signal about 5 db or so. The problem is after updates, the setting changes back to GLOBAL. It's still a db or so below the Note 9 when I compare them side by side but much closer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Horayken:
Sorry for ask. What codecs are the ones you talking about? I'm curious if there is a new one :). So far I was able to use LDAC at 990kbps, and even UAT codec with my HIBY W3 ( is a custom codec and goes above 1200kbps). Didn't test APTX and APTXHD. Have to mention that using LDAC at max quality near a WIFI router causes spikes in audio, but is a known issue.

Sorry for my english.

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
Your English is fine... a tough language.

LDAC is the only top shelf HD codec the bt chipset supports.

No chipset support for aptX HD*, for a few cents more Samsung could have put in the latest bt chipset for this Note. Smucks...

*only supports the inferior apt x
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Horayken:
Well that's bad... There is a magisk module to enable APTXHD codec on one plus phones. I thinks is due to license fee that we don't have it. I didn't test it (don't have nothing that uses APTXHD to see if the module works.). May be helpful For someone who wants to port it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
Still the Note 10+ bt chipset is physically incapable of supporting AptX HD, even if Samsung licensed* that codec it be impossible to use it on the Note 10+.

Not forward compatible at all in this regard.

Samsung thinks we don't care (or know) about HD bt audio... wrong.

While none of Samsung's bt buds devices can use the AptX HD codec there are 3rd party ones that do.

You're limited to LDAC for HD 3rd party bt audio and they're not as good as AptX HD.

AAC and AptX are inferior to the LDAC codec... if memory serves me correctly.

So LDAC with a quality 3rd party bt audio device that supports it is as good as it can ever get.

A major disappointment for a flagship device. You need to dig deep to find this deficiency... reviews never notice it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wh.../aptx-hd-bluetooth-what-it-how-can-you-get-it

*it's a Qualcomm chipset so presumably to the licensing cost is incorporated into the chipset cost. Samsung avoided this small price by not using this chipset. Grrrrr.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ovibaidya72:
I am getting same issue

I am getting same issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
I think this thread is going off topic, as it was opened to talk about signal and audio levels, not quality of sound, codecs, bt, etc, deserve their own thread, imo
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
Point being while presumably the antenna aren't as optimum as the 20 U's in the 10+, they are adequate.

One or more batches may not be functioning normally, but most are.

On most of the 10+'s there are bigger bones to pick than it's signal strength...

Is it firmware or hardware? Samsung substitutes the smaller chipsets and solid state components as dictated by supply. Even one out of spec diode could raise hell.

That opens the door to hardware acting unpredictably to what should be a stable firmware load.

It's so bad that sometimes the only way Samsung knows to exactly which chipsets/components were used in a particular phone is to physically examine it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bearone2:
interesting, you tune down your unencrypted wifi & that's a samsung issue??

you're like a cheapie coffeehouse putting out free/unencrypted!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bluefish196:
Not new.

I had the S3. Yes ages ago. Then the S5. Yes it was a cool phone.

The screen even today was NO BURNING!!

Camera was amazing for the time. Even had Dual camera, front and back at the same time. You could move your front camera Picture in Picture.

Then Audio. Used to support all the Level accessories with UHD audio, yes 24 Bit at 96KHz.

Then I upgraded to the S8 Plus! Amazing phone during the launch with Oreo.

UHD audio, Bluetooth AptX HD, 24Bit 96KHz.

Then came the Pie update and the S9.

All of the sudden, no more AptX HD or even AptX.

Literally had a 200 bucks headphone turn useless.

Complained to Samsung and they said. We fix it on the Note9.

Well, true for a bit, it was working until the first update.

More Samsung support and complaints.

Then finally they said, ok, we will add AptX again.

Yet no 24 Bit support or AptX HD.

Currently on the same note 9. Next upgrade will be the Sony Experia.

I'm done with Samsung being like Apple.

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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bearone2:
nothing in the playstore?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
The bluetooth chipset can't support the latest HD audio codecs. Never will be able to.

No fix for this hardware skimping by Samsung... very chintzy of them.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bearone2:
maybe samsung figured that, not that many folks were utilizing the technology, most using for basic hands free phone or paired to vehicle.

that's all i use bluetooth for.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
No, Samsung blew it big time.

Samsung unwisely chose not to use the best HD technology in their Buds and then in an even more inept move decided not to even support the best lossless bt codec on their flagship phones.

On top of that screw up they took out the 3 5mm jack.

There are people who invested big bucks for premium bt headsets and buds that HD audio was degraded courtesy of stupid Sammy on their flagship phones at that. Or like myself want to use the best lossless codecs.

Samsung did the same lame bs this year too on their flagship models.

Small wonder their sales have tanked... idiots.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Nice write up but very subjective. Especially when no proof is supplied, you could have at least shown some GSAM historical signal strength charts versus the current note 10 that's in question.

Anyways I'll digress. However, I should state that I found band 2 and 4 on my now sold Note 20 Ultra had significantly lower signal strength than what I was used to using TMobile USA. With my testing I'm sitting in my old man's recliner couch at home like I normally do most of the time. ? running network signal info lite. The note 20 would give me approx 5 to 10 dbm lower readings on LTE bands 2 and 4 on T-Mobile USA. So you may have point. When using an older note or my current device a Oneplus 8 Pro the signal strength at same location and same carrier was back to the way it was before.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] -BoneZ-:
I took a chance on the 20 Ultra, and the cell signal strength is far better than that of the Note 10 or even the Note 8. I was even getting better speeds than my OnePlus 7 Pro which was really surprising. I made sure I did enough testing during my return period and I decided to keep the Note 20 Ultra.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
I wasn't the one with the conspiracy theory, just an observation of owning one recently. In any case that's sold now, the OP8Pro signal wise is pukka. Note 20 Ultra was just another Samsung for me again. Sometimes one needs a change ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheMadScientist:
Lol I just changed from a note 20 to 7 pro
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
What the flip flop!![emoji1787]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] winol:
Well, then you are most definitively not a real note series guy…
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Me neither. Sold the ultra 20 and now have a 8pro. Much better device for my reasons.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheMadScientist:
Lol Ive had a note 3 4 5 9 10 and 20
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Yes but you're not a true note lover because you change it now.,?

Joking aside, I needed USA full bands and dual sim functionality hence the 8pro fit the bill.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] shafiisigera:
For months i though mine was somehow damaged,. I dd everthin to get good signals but nothin changed,.surely now this is a developer issue by samsung, they somehow need to fix it, and we cant even install custom fonts anymore, its like we are moving backwards, note series superior in every department but not anymore
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
Sammy, lead by their rabid box of gerbils management team decided to target the trophy customer base instead of the power user.

The trophy customer base is a lot more numerous, stupid and easy to please than the hardcore power users.

Quenn Sammie:"Let the peasants eat spen."
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] bearone2:
some of us just use it for calls, messages, email and it doesn't dominate our lives!!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tolol:
i used to have oneplus 7, then upgraded to note 10+. use it about a year, concluded it was a mistake, it was a downgrade all i gain from extra bucks i spend is bingger display and battery
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] blackhawk:
Yeah 30 years ago I had a bag phone by the minute.

Imagine that.