[Lenovo P2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Devel] cara7mel:
OK I’m back and I'll take the opportunity you offer me…. :):p:ROFLMAO:

Hardly can I call this explanations! You just made statements and affirmations, based on your experience of course and I don’t see anything wrong with that.

BUT again and again you do not provide hard facts as you so strongly demand from other members!

You should lead by example and give such hard facts and the results of your tests, logs or any other links to previous facts / results BEFORE demanding it from others.

I think that an old veteran member as you should do this in the first place and should lead by example and have a positive attitude towards all.

Member since 2012 – sure have some level of experience and I don’t question / doubt that.

The way how you share it and arrogance “I know better than you” and “I said so” are the issue here!!!

And you stil don't get it just questionable attitude and a big ego. A little humility goes a long way and I’m sure you can learn from others too!

“Au contraire mon cher” That is not the case for sure, most of the time I enjoy it as long as it stays decent, polite, factual and doesn't gets personal and use inappropriate / offensive language.

I always treat / speak to the others the way I like to be treated / spoken to

But the reverse is also true!!! 😏

Glad to help when I can, I cost me nothing to help others!

We can go and dig little dipper and look at the two affirmations in the same paragraph

a. “I disabled FM radio feature completely anyway and checked this out, just to be sure.“

and few lines later you say that

b. “I can't tell why they can't be disabled and where this behaviour is defined tho but it doesn't matter much as I said earlier.” – and admit later that “I debunked” your knowledge!

Just to be boring, how did you checked ? Crystal ball or tea leaves ? If my memory serves me right don’t recall seeing any hard-proofs of what you have checked or any hard-facts, logs, screenshots etc. provided…

A link to those proofs will help cange my opinion!

It is an obvious fracture of logic either you disabled the FM Radio app which implies knowledge of permissions locations and how to do it or you didn’t disable it and then that first statement is not true (an innocent little lie) I guess it is the latter.

It becames more and more clearer that you do not have any facts to support your “I said earlier” statement(s)

Again I beg to differ… Look at my very firs post Jan 27 (when I joined the forum) I mentioned the reasons of my posting, explain why I think about FM Radio app, (non core app with such elevated privileges etc) and did post a link to the repositories that you admitted “it is kinda linked to the permissions” This admission of relationship came after you first stated that it is incorrect and has nothing to do with the matter.

I asked why Calendar app can be disabled and FM Radio not….. read the post if you didn’t do it back then. You will find it on page 54 post #1075.

I used that link as a “time stamp” for the changes I found at that time (of my first post) and as reference for those users with more experience if they decide to consider my enquiry and look in to it. I will attach the side by side differences between permisions.xmls files for Los 16 and 17.1 I did. I also mentioned that changes I found, good or bad I never pretend I know such thing are also included on the same file for los 18.1.

How many first time posts, from new members, provide such level of detail and information?

I inserted such information in my very first post - pg 54 post #1075 - a screenshot and a link to github repository !!!

You have a post on the same page post #1077... May I ask why you did nothing about it back then if was so bad post ??? And do not come up that is was with your kindness and good will - bullies don't have that!

I got quite a few feedback posts and that means that others are seeing some value in it.

Whatever....

Remember your first post ? I love to see it! I bet it was something along these lines:

"Bro it runs butter smooooth" or "How to fix my xyz (mistake)"

But yeah you are a big boy now, know the buzz words and can bully others !!!

I didn’t made a statement of absolute truth (like you do all the time)

It was only a simple “Why...” question addressed to forum members who care to consider it.

FYI: Look at an example how I give feedbak to others, there are few details included.....

The irony and sarcasm you refer to came much later, only after your “Mr Know All Better” show of post last week…😎 (March 5 post #1135.)

It took a while from Jan 27 #post 1075 to 6 March #post 1137.

I’m not a theorist but I’m a 20+ years user of radio devices and antennae and these Dual-Band Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0, GPS, FM-Radio receivers built in Qualcomm 665 chip-set and software app works alike, the same way and that was the main reason that lead me to my firs post enquiry. It was not a just pie in the sky as you assumed. It is an “educated guess.” In that first post I mentioned/reported my finding on power usage and battery life, Later on I refer also at FM Radio app background scanning and the lack of to head set (antenna role for our P2) and GPS receiver for the location permissions.

Have a look at the following links to 2 articles refering to two of the largest telco’s in USA. Are advices for their customers – I don’t know how many customers Verizon and T-mobile have but for sure more that 100,000,000.

Sure there is a lot of PR + BS but their advice for these 100+ millions customers regarding telephone settings to reduce power usage and increase battery life have certain wight and can be taken in consideration!

PC Magazine Verizon support

Verizon Support Suggests Turning Off 5G to Conserve Battery

The carrier launched its nationwide 5G service in three more cities earlier this year.

www.pcmag.com

and

The Verge T-mobile support

T-Mobile saw Verizon telling people to turn off 5G and thought ‘why stop there’

Why build a 5G network then tell people not to use it?

www.theverge.com

Tutorials | T-Mobile Support

www.t-mobile.com

Note: These articles were published on early March AFTER my first post.

Also have a look at this highlited red T-mobile support sugetions for their customers

I newer had any claims of such knoledge about development commits and mentioned that first link as a time stamp event and a reference to start with for other people who care to look into it..

I’m just a end user “dude” that like longer battery life. Not everybody uses their phone only for social media - Facebook !!!

It's blody good to have real friends, to go to the pub and have a pint of beer with them!...🍻

Just your personal oppinion and that all that it is / represents. :p

Likewise !!!

Don’t need to. I present findings from my very first post #1075 - and you only “I said so”

Here you go more for you:

FM Radio apps screenshots.

2 for Los 16.0 – (brown lines)

FM Radio app size is 34.64MB and

No permissions requested

Storage 34.66MB

Battery charge is 44% (after a few days off usage) and battery use by the app since last charge is 0% (ZERO)

Lineage 16.0 Lineage 16.0

Unfortunately I don’t have Los 17.1 (green lines) installed now and I have only this screenshot that from Jan 27 that clearly shows the “bloody controversial” permissions and the storage & cache size of 28.67kB. If I recall correct the FM Radia app in LOS 17.1 is less than 68-80KB .Maybe some user with los 17.1 cares to post a current screenshot with reported battery usage reported by the phone itseld. - where on my P2 it shows 0%

Lineage 17.1

Huge differences in app size ( 34 MB vs 80 KB) storage space, permissions differences and battery life lead me to post my first question about FM Radio impact in Los 17.1 battery performance!

These presented facts, and attached file with diffferences in Add privapp permissions.xmls from los 16 vs 17.1 attached and educated guesses (based on long experiences) contributed to information I presented since my first post in Jan 2021.

Are you able, at least once, to detail your point with hard-facts, reports, logs and screenshots.

This time "As I said earlier" words only are not good enough !!!

Have a good day and stay safe!