yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yes. there are two cabs as mentioned in post 3. Run Cert_SPCS.cab FIRST and EnableRapi.cab SECOND on the phone. then soft reset the phone.

brother...you should really really read the Sticky Rollup thread which is just below this thread.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] fyew-jit-tiv:
Fella im sorry for waisting your time.. this seems like it aint gonna work for me...

Goto step 2of3 and stalled on 75%

Looked at the phone at it say....Unable to open log file.....tiny_console_init done.....i have read and read all posts but this just aint happening...! sorry for waisting your time bro.....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
bro..its not about waste of time :D

dont worry. if u want, PM me your instant messenger id, i'll guide u step by step there.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] fyew-jit-tiv:
your the man.....pming you now...

Im using windows live messenager
[Touch GSM ROM Development] eshield:
Today i will try to flash IPL/SPL directly from 1.11.0002/1.11.000 to 2.27.0002/2.28.0000 =)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
all the best :)

and don't forget the feedback :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] eshield:
Woot.

I've successfully upgraded IPL/SPL from 1.11.0002/1.11.0000 to 2.27.0002/2.28.0000.

My procedure:

1. CID Unlock (elf-uspl.exe)

2. Update Utility (ROMUpdateUtiluty.exe)

Start routine ("smart mobility" logo -> desktop) has taken about 48 secs ... awesome =)

Your SPL is already unlocked? Now i can flash new ROM (i want to try new PDAVIET's ROM v47...hehe)w/o unlocking?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
great news :D...YES, it's already CID unlocked, thats why called USPL ;)

this will definitely make the task easier for people with old IPLs/USPLs :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] eshield:
Great :) *ran away to flash new ROM :D*

I'm glad to help =)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] AlainL:
Thanks for answer.

I just upgraded, without any problems.

Thanks a lot for work.

For the records :)

* Previous config :

IPL: 2.20.0002

SPL: 1.11.0000 (POF patched)

* New config :

IPL: 2.27

USPL: 2.28

Upgrade method:

Downloaded "IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28.zip"

Copied ".nbh" to root of SD card and renaming it "elf0img.nbh" then going into boot loader
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ryshah:
Same config for me too !

Another successful flasher here :)

Thanks for the awesome work guys !!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] eshield:
Yay, gratz :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ChiemY:
Succesfully re-Flashed to ipl 2.27 uspl 2.28.

(Due to sound trouble, orange change my old elf and i receive a Elfin :rolleyes:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sinmae:
hi, flashed successfully last version USPL 2.28, work like a charm. also overclocked to 299MHz, so far rock stable (used chi-tai dang today plugin). thank you.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
i see, what was the ROM version that u got in the replacement phone?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ChiemY:
ipl/spl 2.21 and rom 2.21.74.1B FRE
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
oh ok. thats quite old :D i thought u may have got a newer ROM than 2.27 which we could use as base ROM :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dare2know:
Hey i am a new user of HTC Touch P3452 (ELFIN) flash rom,

i have purchased it 5 days back and i have used RUU 2.28 to update my device, everything foes smoothly, and update utility shows Your device has been sucessfully updated... But after 2/3 times updates i am still getting the same information in MY device Info :

Rom 2.20.720.2b wwe

radio 03.07.90

protocol v 4.1.13.51

ext rom :2.20.720.130

CE os 5.2.1620 build 18125.0.4.2

_________ i have noticed that the device is running faster and smooth prior to upgrade but these information are still same, I am From India.

Pls see if anything can be done here

regards and thanx to All Developers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
the information that u see in the device info is related to the ROM version, radio version and extended ROM. that doesn't show u the IPL/SPL versions. if u want to see if the IPL/SPL have been updated, press and hold the camera button while resetting with stylus. if u check, u'll see that SPL is 2.28.0000 which was initially 2.20.0000 before u flashed.

PS: it would be better if u read the Rollup sticky for more information related to Elf/Elfin
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
What if

And what if you have the following versions:

IPL: 2.81.0002

SPL: 2.81.0000

This is on an Elfin.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
well, if you (or anyone) have the original versions of these IPL and SPL, please upload here or PM me.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
Well, I haven't changed anything to my phone yet, so I suppose they're original. I'd like to send them, but first I have to find out how.

Are those needed for creating a new USPL?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
well, if u can dump them, i'll take a look and see if they are newer than USPL 2.28 or not. if SPL 2.81 is newer, i'll try to make a USPL based on this. u can easily dump the IPL though. follow the Rollup sticky, kokotas has posted a way to dump IPL. however, we are not able to dump the SPL as yet :(

PS: don't u have original shipped ROM for your phone?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] VJstar:
Before I see someone in the T-Mobile device was found on this version SPL \ IPL can you provide? Line ???use this tool can be extracted directly from your equipment, after running simultaneously as long as you can........ :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
the command that you have written in the bat file for dumping SPL is wrong. you have to use the following command:

pmemdump 0x8C000000 0x80000 SPL.nb

and the problem of dumping SPL is, 'pmemdump' doesn't always give the correct SPL, sometimes we just get some garbage data. in my testing i had to use this command to dump SPL 10-15 times before i got the correct dump. so it would be better if we get more samples of the dumped SPL.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
IPL/SPL

I just dumped my IPL and SPL and uploaded them: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9Z26LSJI

I hope the SPL is correct, but I don't know how to check that myself.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
brother, i can't access any sites if office except for mediafire. could u please upload it there?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
Done: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8c8d58f1206fb72995af63b7d44918aa68ee2230efc49ed3
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
no, the SPL is not correct. as i said before, sometimes u have to dump it again and again, so i need more samples of SPL.IPL seems fine though.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
Do I have to use the same line of code for the SPL or do I have to change something?

And how can I check if it's correct?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
I've tried dumping the SPL again and again... and again.., etc., but it keeps giving me the same file over and over again.

It's always starting with two lines of 'FFFF FFFF ...' (in hex). :(

I don't need to change the security policies every time, right? Once is enough?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yes, once is enough. can u PM me your messenger ID? lets try to work it out together.

PS: did u try to search for 'bootload' text string?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Hey Aman, tell me something. As per the Wiki entry, once you do the pdocread, you can view the partitions

In that, isn't some part the SPL? So why cant we dump the SPL just the way we save the OS as Part02.raw? Just a thought, I'm sure someone must have tried
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
the IPL/SPL is not loaded in those partitions i guess. pdocread only provides u part0, part1 and part2. IPL dump is easy but SPL dump is really a headache, i've tried many offsets but its not very conclusive. its more of a hit n trial case.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
ok guys, we have managed to dump the SPL 2.81 :D

thanks to amelsfort for his patience. but this SPL is very old, even older than SPL 2.20 :D. so i guess, we don't need to patch it for CID unlocking and we don't even need to try IPL 2.81.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
:) How come 2.81 is older than 2.20? How did you find out? :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
simply hex edit it and search for Version string. u'll see something like this:

00002630h: 6C 6F 63 6B 53 69 7A 65 3A 30 78 25 78 0A 00 00 ; lockSize:0x%x...
00002640h: 0A 56 52 50 43 53 54 53 3A 20 30 78 25 78 0A 00 ; .VRPCSTS: 0x%x..
00002650h: 0A 48 54 43 20 25 73 20 49 50 4C 20 56 65 72 73 ; .HTC %s IPL Vers
00002660h: 69 6F 6E 20 3A 20 25 73 20 56 25 73 00 00 00 00 ; ion : %s V%s....
00002670h: 45 4C 46 00 0A 48 54 43 20 25 73 20 42 6F 6F 74 ; ELF..HTC %s Boot
00002680h: 6C 6F 61 64 65 72 20 56 65 72 73 69 6F 6E 20 3A ; loader Version :
00002690h: 20 25 73 20 56 25 73 00 42 75 69 6C 74 20 6F 6E ; %s V%s.Built on
000026a0h: 20 00 00 00 53 65 70 20 31 30 20 32 30 30 37 00 ; ...[color=blue]Sep 10 2007[/color].
000026b0h: 20 61 74 20 00 00 00 00 31 33 3A 34 31 3A 33 39 ; at ....13:41:39
000026c0h: 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 43 6F 70 79 72 69 67 68 ; ........Copyrigh
000026d0h: 74 20 28 63 29 20 32 30 30 33 20 48 69 67 68 20 ; t (c) 2003 High
000026e0h: 54 65 63 68 20 43 6F 6D 70 75 74 65 72 20 43 6F ; Tech Computer Co
000026f0h: 72 70 6F 72 61 74 69 6F 6E 0A 0A 00 50 43 43 5F ; rporation...PCC_
[Touch GSM ROM Development] amelsfort:
And I managed to install a new ROM! Thanks to htctouchp for his time and help.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
Finally, we (me and kokotas) have found the way to dump SPL from our Elf/Elfin :D.

those who are interested in dumping the SPL out of the phone, please check post 6 of the thread.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kokotas:
Great job ,again, Aman!

It will be useful if there are any newer SPLs running on latest Elf(in)s!

Added the link to the rollup sticky too!

Regards!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Great work!

I'll update the Backup Wiki page as well.

Aman, any reason why you call it an .nbx file instead of .nb?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yes, coz it can not be flashed to the phone as such. it needs to be converted into proper 1 MB .nb first.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Sorry.. I didn't read your earlier comment about not being flashable. How do you convert it? I didn't find any tool for that.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
u need splsplit to convert it into 1 MB SPL.nb
[Touch GSM ROM Development] rahulbasarkar:
Problems with ROM Upgrade and CID Unlock process

Hi All,

Let me start saying that i am not a technical guy but love to experiment. I recently got my HTC Touch with Model ID - ELF010050 and CID - DOPOD001.

I was reading most of the available material on the forum which gave me information on ROM Upgrade and other CID Unlock.

I have downloaded the following files from the Forum

1. TouchII_2.20.707.47_WM6.1_B20273.rar

2. TouchII_2.27.801.48_WM6.1_B20273.rar

3. Cert_SPCS.cab

4. EnableRapi.cab

5. mtty.exe

6. IPL_2.27.0002.ZIP

7. USPL_2.28.0000.ZIP

8. IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28.ZIP

My Problem: Everytime i try to do ROM Upgrade or CID Unlock process it gives me "ERROR 270" and the device automatically restarts.

I checked with all the possible treads on thsi forum, but i feel i am doing something wrong. As i am not a TECHI person, i am not able to find it out.

Can anyone help me realise my mistake in the steps to be followed, so that i can upgrade to WM6.1

Regards,

Rahul Basarkar
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
follow these steps (for both Elf and Elfin):

1. hard reset the phone

2. install cert_spcs.cab

3. install enablerapi.cab

4. power off and power on (Don't reset with stylus)

5. remove SD card and SIM card

6. connect phone to PC, make sure Activesync is working

7. unzip USPL_2.28.0000.ZIP to C: drive

8. unzip IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28.ZIP

9. copy nbh file from IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28.ZIP and replace the nbh file in RUU folder of USPL_2.28.0000

10. run elf-uspl.exe and follow on-screen instructions

hope that helps :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tiftof:
succesfull flash

I had a succesfull spl/ipl update:

from: IPL 1.11.0002 USPL 1.11.0000 (USPL from pof)

to: IPL 2.27.0002 USPL 2.28.0000

how:

- elf-uspl.exe

- RUU with IPL 2.27.0000 from bootloader

Now waiting for a new rom to test (Surface... :p)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
yes, those are the general steps which apply equally to both devices.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nhatt:
Thanks for the answer,regards!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Alex R56:
good

succesfull flash to: IPL 2.27.0002 USPL 2.28.0000
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hendrixus:
USPL 2.20 48 secs
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hendrixus:
Just asking before flashing to verify not making any mistakes

I'am almost set to use This Method

That's correct? What is the advantage of the other options?

I have a ipl/spl 2.20.0002 - 2.20.0000 (Elfin)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
don't worry and go ahead to follow that method :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hendrixus:
Just did it. But I got a error [260] when RUU was started and was checking the phone. Never had this problem with my devices. AS was gray. Where to start again. All over or is it enough to start RUU?

btw a "blank screen" I have to penguin on my screen.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
pls try again. make sure active sync is working and then run elf-uspl.exe. u must get a white screen after step 2, only then u can flash the USPL.

normally one does get the white screen after step 2 if all the previous steps have been followed correctly.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ChiemY:
If you see blank screen with penguin, jumpspl has failed.

You need to see blank/penguin quick and after have a white screen.

use ELF_USPL_2.26.0000.zip from post 3 and make hard reset should help.

jumpspl not work all the time, need to try again.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hendrixus:
I just did it again with the same results. I don't get a white screen. The pengiun is still on it.

I am connected(green) and disconnected(gray) before RUU is starting. After a minute or so I get the error mentioned.The penguin is still on a black screen. It isn't hanging. I can hardreset to get back to the device.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
ohh, when u do the hard reset. u have to enable rapi again. means, if u hard reset, then u have to start all over again from step 2.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hendrixus:
I know. which I just did. Trying it again........................................nothing

At 75% of step 2 the penguin appears. Now it did go away before RUU was started but my screen stayed black with text on it,see below screen shot.

btw I don't see enablerapi and cert ion "remove programs"when installed?

And I have an HTC Touch P3450 with 256/128
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
weird...those are the only steps which need to be followed. many have updated using those steps. i'm confused now :confused:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] shan2129:
did you hard reset mate ! i was doing the same thing and did not hardreset , also remove your SIM and SD card.. after hardreset install the Rapi and cert_ thing into your phone without having the SD installed :p , might solve..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hendrixus:
Yeah I did.

But I already solved it. I change policies manual. Followed the procedure, and then it worked :D

"Strange beautiful grass of green,

With your majestic silver seas

Your mysterious mountains I wish to see closer

May I land my kinky machine "

Yeah you may;)

Now I need a great dutch languaged ROM.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kezane:
Hi i got the same problem as u.. may i know wat u did? keep on stuck at the black duck screen..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Try this:

After you install EnableRapi and Cert, reset your device. Wait for ActiveSync and then start the program.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] weaselcossey:
I just got my elfin a couple of days ago, but have flashed my athena several times. On athena, there were different ROMs for each SPL (ie: ROM "X" for SPL 1.2, and ROM "X" for SPL 3.5), and it was always made very clear NOT to interchange them.

I'm using Blue Elves v5.0 right now. I'm ok to change IPL and USPL now, and try out the Shadow and other ROMs/Radios without problem......Correct?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] urchinray:
I don't really see what is the different of the speed but one thing is really handy now. I don't have to remove my SD card and Sim Card to flash the nbh. cool.:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] majesticpark:
thanks finally did it. upgrade my elf's (3450) ipl and spl to 2.27.0002 and 2.28.0000 from 2.20.0002 and 2.20.0000. it took me four tries.

what worked for me is Running Cert_SPCS.cab FIRST and EnableRapi.cab SECOND
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nfhuysamen:
hey, just to agree with previous posts. i just updated my cid LOCKED elf (1.15.x) to the UNlocked 2.2x.x IPL/USPL in one go. it works perfectly!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Hi guys,

Here's an easier way to dump the SPL... No more need to convert the .NBX to an .NB.

pdocread -n 0 -b 0x80000 0 0x100000 SPL.nb

Simply download the attachment, unzip it and double-click on "spl.bat"
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Drasek:
Hi guys,

just a quick question.

I've checked my g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel and it s "0" not "00". In the sticky it says it's unlocked but I think i've read somewhere that only one zero means it's not fully unlocked.

My IPL is 1.11.00002 and SPL 1.11.0000.

Can I flash IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28 right away or should I do something else?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
dont worry, go ahead and flash the IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28 right away.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Drasek:
Just to be sure.

1. Remove my sim and sd card?

2. Flash from bootloader or os?

3. apply cert and enable rap cab's?

4. Unzip USPL_2.28.000 copy nbh form IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28 and run eff_uspl.exe

5. Flash your ROM right after IPL/SPL update or is a hard reset necessary?

tnx
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
my answers:

1. yes, remove the cards

2. go to bootloader or OS

3. Unzip USPL_2.28.000 copy nbh from IPL_2.27_USPL_2.28, go to RUU folder and run romupdateutility.

4. no need to hard reset before flashing the cooked ROM.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Drasek:
Thanks, i've successfully upgraded my ipl and spl.

Now i will flash your new rom but have to change pp first. I'll go with 6 mb pp this time.

Thanks again.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] deonidis:
from

IPL 1.11.0002

SPL 1.11.0000

to

IPL 2.27.0002

SPL 2.28.0000

Radio is 03.21.90

Rom esential V1.6

What else is there
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nathan_barstow14:
? on IPS/SPL Update - Elfin

I searched and couldn't find a good answer... but when upgrading the IPL and SPL on the Elfin, do you lose all/any of your personal information? I know you do in a ROM update, but I couldn't find anything on these. Sorry if I just happened to missed something

Thanks
[Touch GSM ROM Development] karim099:
nop. flashing SPL , IPL or radio keeps the ROM and data intact.

only flashing a new ROM will erase all data on internal storage
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Flashing a ROM that contains an Operating System will overwrite your data.

But flashing the following by themselves will have no effect:

- IPL

- SPL

- MainSplash

- Radio
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nathan_barstow14:
Awesome! Thanks for the quick response everybody! :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nathan_barstow14:
Problems regarding SPL Update

I tried last night to update the SPL on my HTC Touch (Elfin) to htctouchp's patches 2.28 file, but once I start the little DOS program to run it, once it reaches step 2/3 it freezes on 15% every time and I have to soft reset my phone. Can't figure out why I can't get past it. Any help or suggestions would be nice. Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Hey HTCtouchP

This:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=416992

Tool of any interest to you?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
wow!! this tool is too good for me to use it right now :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Good find!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Seed123:
Hey guys, I'm having some trouble here. My phone has

IPL 1.11.00.2

SPL 2.20.000

And I want to flash the Touch Essentials v1.7 ROM. How do I go about CID unlocking with this version of IPL and SPL? I want to get IPL :2.27 and SPL :2.28

Thanks a lot :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] dsixda:
Flash the temporary SPL (white screen) and then flash this IPL/SPL. I've zipped up everything w/ instructions in a file. Just check my sig for htctouchp's creation.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Seed123:
^

Thanks man
[Touch GSM ROM Development] absorber786:
successfully upgraded

ipl 1.15.00002->2.27.0002

spl 1.15.00000->2.28.0000

noticed a slight improvement in boot time - have not timed in it though

Thanks..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nathan_barstow14:
I've tried everything and still can't get my Elfin to upgrade this stuff. I've done a hard reset, and installed the two programs and rebooted the phone, and whenever it comes time to running the elf-uspl.exe the screen never turns white. It just freezes at 15% on step two every time. Also, whenever I restart my phone into the bootloader, the only thing that comes up is the SPL which is currently 2.02.0000, the model number and something else, but not the IPL. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
thats weird :eek::confused:

whats the CID/DID of your phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] @ Ayush Garg:
I wounder why my Galaxy S20+ heatup so much. It always stay heatup even in idle mode. Its summer in India and using normal apps and streaming Netflix make it hot like frying pan.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] sielhadi:
Me too
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] vash_h:
A friend just bought those Electrical radiator cooling fans similar to black shark 3 cooling fan. Works great. After heavy gaming the phone still feels as if you took it out of refrigerator.

He even used it to cool down his beer in between games.

I just ordered mine. Cost about usd7 with free shipping.

I'll wait for it to arrive from China.

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[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] @ Ayush Garg:
Exynos S20+ is not good for gaming. It lag so much in pubg. Performance is very poor.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] vash_h:
So far I dont have any problems in pubg and codm..
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] @ Ayush Garg:
It has nothing like refrigerator ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] vash_h:
The fridge is too big to carry around lol.

I got mine and it's nothing like black shark 3 cooling fan. It gets the job done.

I've looked up jerryrigeverything, the black shark phone has the copper heat sink pipe extended to the outside back cover, using the cooling pad on it will do much better than on the s20. I have no idea why samsung will direct the copper heat sink to.. On between the screen and battery. It's really odd.

Having the main board right next to the protruding camera doesn't help. I try my best to have the pad reach the location of the main board, but most of the time it just cold down the battery.

But it does work though.. the phone doesn't heat up after 3 hours if continous gaming + charging. The gentle vibration of the fan does make your hand a bit numb after an hour of gaming.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] @ Ayush Garg:
? Chill bro.. We all know most android phones and their accessories are gimmick.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] hiyachi-32:
I have s20 and it's heating like hell even I open excell.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] sublimaze:
Do we really need another thread like this?

This forum needs a sticky titled "If your Exynos S20 gets hot, read this" and the first post should explain why this happens.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions & ] vash_h:
Yup. It Also gets hot just by being in my pocket sometimes. So hot I can feel it through my pants