yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] EyeAmRubber:
They didn't. Someone at HTC leaked it, as explained in the HTC Insider blog.

I didn't post it. And I'm not blaming YOU for posting it. I'm blaming you for making silly comments about how Opera is apparently pretending to know better than you how to use your phone.

Yeah, but the point is that you didn't just talk about problems, you started accusing Opera of creating these problems on purpose.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] tovarish:
put your comments here

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=102

I am sure then opera developers will fix it if enough people complain.

people are already complaining about auto rotate to portrait on exit here.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=242909

add your comments there and the opera developers might fix it.

there is no point giving feedback here except to inform other users of this forum of your experiences. If you want a problem to be fixed the developers should get to know about it.

tovarish
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
eaglesteve, In addition to the issues mentioned above, I also experience notification sounds disabling (e.g. new text, new e-mail, etc... the sound is disable). I have to back after using Opera to setup them up again. It took me a while to figure it out.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
lpsi2000,

I tested and found the same sound turn off problem on mine.

Do uou also have problem using it to write a post here?

The positioning of the screen is such that I am unable to see what I'm typing.

I did'nt have these problems with the leaked diamond versions.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sergiopi:
The sound problem could be a nice (or stipid, you choose) "easter egg" from opera programmers, just to be sure we don't like it too much, (more than the commercial release :) )
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
Yet it doesn't affect everyone, like me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
There's a new beta version on opera.com, dated today 7/29. I haven't installed it yet so I don't know the build number.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] jsp91470:
The new build number is 1718_a. I can say right now that the rotation problem is still there. It also reset all my preferences back to the defaults, and lost most of the IE favorites that it had imported. I'll let you know if it fixes the notification bug, but with a version change that small, I don't expect much.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] jsp91470:
Nope, notifications still broken.

Update: I was wrong the notifications are fixed! See here:

http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2008/07/29/updated-beta1

However, you have to go to the Notification Settings and re-enable them, that's why I thought it was still broken.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Paragraph still does nit flow correctly to occupy the blank space. Still don't like it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lennie:
don't understand what do you mean? it doesn't reorder (wordwrap) when you soom in?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
In the older leaked versions, if you zoom in or out, the browser is smart enough to take that column of the web page to fit to the width of the screen. Also, since the character size changes in zooming, the entire text "re-flows" again to ensure that it fit nicely within the screen width. Therefore, it does not matter whether you're in overview mode or zoom in mode, the text looks right.

In the public beta, they work differently. In overview mode, the text does not flow to occupy the entire width of the column (Use it to view this forum for example, you will see that they only occupy the left side of the column, perhaps 1/3 of the width of the column, leaving the other 2/3 blank. This is ugly. Then, when you zoom in, the text does not reflow. It simply become bigger and now the column text almost occupy the entire screen. What it seems to do now is to flow the text in a way suitable for the zoom in mode although you're still in the zoom overview mode.

If I go into opera:config, under user preference and untick the "limit paragraph width" option, then in zoom overview mode, it occupies the entire column, but in zoom in mode, the paragraph does not reflow to fit into the screen width. As a result, users are forced to scroll left and right.

Hope this is clear. Let me know if it is'nt.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] EyeAmRubber:
And it's still listed as a known issue, so you should already know that :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
The typing problem is still there too. You can't use Opera Mobile Public Beta to write a post here. The viewer simply position itself such that the tying area is hidden.

I use Netfront Browser now especially if I have to type anything. It works much better for me.

I think somebody will start defending Opera as if his honor is being attacked again.:p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
I would love to know why I don't see any of these problems. Notifications have never been a problem. The text fills the columns/screen just fine, here and everywhere else, zoomed or not (eaglesteve, you can just "tap and hold" to get the option to turn the paragraph wrapping on and off, you don't need to go into the options).

I just took at look at this thread and at first the reply box was not visible, but I noticed the status bar wasn't done yet. Eventually the reply box showed up and the status bar went away, so I assume it just hadn't loaded the code yet.

Edit: I had a similar issue with an older version, only on one site. If I looked at the local weather radar 2/3 of the time it would load the map, all overlays (cities, rivers, warnings, etc), but not the actual radar coloring. After several reloads it would load. This works fine in the newer betas.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
Anyone know how to check on the build number? They don't have it listed on the Help screen like past builds, and in the registry it says "405", which isn't right.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
opera:about in the location bar.

Build is 1718_a

two main bugbears for me, rotates back to portrait as soon as opera window loses focus, uses default keyboard. Not too bad if I have the hardware keyboard with me, but a pain in 96dpi without.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
If I did not pay close enough attention to it, I would not have noticed that my notification was a problem in the previous public beta too. Only after I went through others' complaint that I took a closer look and realised that mine was also affected. For a while I was wondering why my morning alarm did not go off, my phone did'nt ring, etc. Anyway this problem is fixed with this second public beta.

As to your suggestion that I could tap and hold until the menu option appear to let me turn on and off paragraph wrapping, I'm puzzled because I do not have such a facility in my version. The options in my pop up menu items are as follows only:

Reload, Add to bookmark, Landscape mode, Zoom in, Save page, Text selection on, and Find in text. You said yours has an item called wrapped paragraph on and off? :confused:

No, unfinished loading is not the reason for the problem. See, if I click Quote to reply, I will first presented with a zoom overview version of the reply box. But as we know, at 30% zoom overview, you can't place your cursor in there and start typing. You need to double tap first to allow cursor get into the reply box. But as you type, your cursor moves to the right, and does not wrap around, so it becomes hidden from you. If you continue typing, the screen shifted to the right, but to an unexpected location which is outside the reply box, so you will have no idea what you're typing. If I try to place my cursor on a part of a typed sentence to correct something, again the screen shifted such that your cursor is completely out of the screen. This has nothing to do with whether loading has completed. It has already completed.

Let me know if this is still not clear. Cheers.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
Try to change the SSR Max Width to 480, under User Prefs in opera:config

by default it's 240
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Thank you fards for the suggestion.

Tried this but it does not seem to help. In zoom in mode, the text still does not reflow to stay within the device's screen width, hence making it necessary to scroll left and right. In the leaked version, they reflow correctly, so I don't know why the public beta is taking a step backward in this regards.

Anybody else has other suggestion on how I can make it reflow correctly? It's a pity because I though the public beta loads webpages faster, and I like it sharing the favourite with my Netfront browser and PIE, but the text input problem and page formatting problem are major obstacles for using it.

Edit: I just checked the SSR Match Width value in the leaked version. It is 240, and is working correctly. So, looks like it is not related to SSR. Also, in the leaked version, regardless of whether I check the limite paragraph width option or not, the paragraph texts are flowing correctly, ie to occupy fully but stay within the width of the device screen, so that we do not need to scroll left and right.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] EyeAmRubber:
Huh? My beta 1 wraps the text when zoomed out as well. Like Opera Mini. No left and right scrolling necessary.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
But it does not occupy the entire width of the screen does it? It leaves most part of right hand side unused. The width of the paragraph in zoomed out mode is made very narrow so that it fits in just nice when you zoom in, right? Fine when you zoom in, but looks ugly and leaves too much unused space when you zoom out. In a small screen, it is not acceptable to waste precious real estate like this.

If you change uncheck the limit paragraph width, then you will find that in zoom out mode it occupies the entire width of the screen nicely, however, in zoom in mode, it flow outside the screen and make it necessary to scroll left and right. It drives me crazy to have to keep scrolling left and right just to read each line of the sentence.

The right way, which is the way the leaked version work, is to occupy the entire width, no more, no less, in both zoom in and zoom out mode. Let me know if this is still not clear.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] EyeAmRubber:
It means no horizontal scrolling is needed. It's the way Opera Mini works.

As noted, this is listed as a known issue.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Let me try to explain the problem with pictures.

In the Public Beta Version:

====================

(A) If I untick the "limit paragraph width" option, then this is how it looks like:

In zoom out mode, the paragraph occupies the entire screen width like this:

In zoom in mode, the paragraph flow OUTSIDE the screen width like this, making it necessary to scroll left and right to read each line of text.

(B) If I tick the "limit paragraph width" option, then this is how it looks like:

In zoom out mode, the paragraph occupies only the left of the screen, wasting lots of previous screen space, making the screen look ugly:

In zoom in mode, the paragraph looks just nice:

In the leaked version:

================

In zoom in mode, it looks right:

Like in picture 1

In zoom out mode, it also looks right:

Like in picture 4
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] weaselcossey:
Isn't that annoying? I can still read it when zoomed out, but my eyes start hurting and stuff gets blurry after a little while. What a waste of the marvelous 5" screen. This issue isn't as bad as the constant pop-up keyboard (whatever release(s) that was), and the soft keyboard area not being reclaimed sometimes. I'm fairly satisfied with this version, for now anyway.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Nomgle:
eaglesteve, it's the first public Beta. It's supposed to have bugs - that's what a Beta is for ! If you want them fixing, then submit them to Opera :):):)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
We have the representative of Opera in our forum.. AmEyeRubber:D Anyway, like he said, they already have these as unresolved bugs, so no point in duplicating the complaint.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] EyeAmRubber:
If you think I'm going to spend my time forward your posts to the people at Opera (if I even knew how to contact them), you'll be sorely disappointed to find out that Opera will never learn of the problems you are having ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
LOL Ah.. when I saw that every sinlge post you made relates to opera mobile, I was convinced that you ARE opera or employed by opera :) It surprises me in deed that you're reporting these back yo your boss in Opera.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
I think you missed the ":D" EyeAmRubber

Don't take things so seriously!

Part of the purpose of these forums is to impart knowledge and experience and most of the people here choose to spend their time here rather than in the opera forums.

It all takes time to explore and learn and find out things.

I would view eaglesteves posts as constructive and so far yours seem to only be petulant

Feel free to criticise my opinion. :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
Hmm, that shows the same thing as the registry value, 405. I may try to completely wipe out all registry settings.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
These are the options I get with a tap-n-hold: back, reload, add favorite, portrait mode, save page, text selection on/off, limit paragraph on/off, find in page. Limit paragraph only seems to work on some pages, but I believe its the same setting that you mentioned is in config. Edit: I use the vga skin, but I'm not sure it affects the tap-n-hold menu options. Its possible it does and that's why I see different options.

I experienced something similar to what you describe, for the first time last night. It was a text box like the one on this page, and parts of the text suddenly appeared in a "ghost area" farther down the screen, and my delete button would delete a character but also minimize Opera. Weird behavior. I think after got a phone call and opened Opera again it all went back to normal. I wonder if this is related to the memory issues/leaks.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
eagle - I'm definitely not seeing paragraph wrapping like you are. Mine looks fine. Between that and my odd version 405 showing up, I'm wondering if my installation of the beta isn't working right. I may try uninstalling the beta, wiping all directories and registry keys of Opera content, and then reinstalling the beta.

What a pain.

Edit: ****. Wiped the reg and all other traces of Opera, and reinstalled the beta. I'm now seeing most of the issues you are reporting - screen rotation, overview won't allow link selection (again), no paragraph limit option on the tap-n-hold (even with the vga skin), soft keyboard reverts to system default. Find-in-page doesn't seem to work right (highlights matches but doesn't go to the first one). The flick movement is better than ever, though.

I may be quickly going back to 1123, my previous favorite. I also might try then overlaying the beta again to see if some of the problems disappear.

Edit 2: It also seems to have issues downloading files. It won't run the tests at Mobile Speed Test, and I can't log into my work email because of the issue.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lennie:
I'm using build 1660 with the 17xx skin and things seems to be ok so far. I haven't had any major issues with this release. I always install to main memory because the SD versions always gave me problems with username/password fields.

I find the public beta 1 to be sluggish, and I don't know if its me but I can't seem to get into the config page. Also, whenever I click on a text field it would switch from my default on screen keyboard (TouchPal), I have to change it back manually every time.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
I just tried 1660 and I was getting random screen rotations - right in the middle of browsing and not just when I closed it down like the beta was doing. Maybe it was due to a leftover setting from my beta installs, so tonight when I have time to play around I might do a full wipe of Opera registry and app settings and try 1660 again. For now I'm back to 1123.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Tadeusz:
After testing all the above I use v1184. It works perfect on my Athena, simply no problems. Also installed in main memory.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lennie:
this is all interesting, it seems everyone is having way different experiences with each build, now I'm thinking that the rom we're using plays a major role.

I'm using 1660 build installed to main memory and I'm having no issues. I'm using sogarth's 0 pagepool spl1.2 rom.

Auto rotate is working really well for me with GSen, opera doesn't rotate unless I tilt the phone. I set GSen to rotate in less than a second so if I mistakenly tilt the phone the other way it takes no time to rotate back.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
I just spent 2 hours trying the following versions: 1126, 1184, 1409, 1476, 1522, 1660, 1718, 1718a.

From 1409 and up it would change the screen orientation upon close. From 1522 (or was it 1660?) up to the beta it also would randomly change the orientation in the middle of browsing and also when closing. Might be because of my rom, AP4, but whatever the reason I'm now on 1184 since it doesn't puke up my screen.

Oh, and this time I made sure to wipe out all opera directories and registry values between installs to ensure I wasn't mixing up settings or dlls.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] uczmeg:
Some registry settings clearly stay over when you install a new version.

I thought 1522 was perfect for me, went to 1660 didn't like it. Installed the Beta, saw it was in a different location so uninstalled 1660.

Decided I wanted to go back to 1522 and suddenly it had issues with switching back to portrait all the time and the zoom settings I'd used previously didn't work nearly as well.

Looks like I need to go back to older versions and then install 1522 over it to see if I can get back to where I was!

It's very annoying, it's all so close, but each new version fixes something whilst killing something else....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
so according to that its likely to be either one of the settings files or registry thats causing the problem with rotation, something that isnt getting deleted during uninstall
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] wgary:
Just tried build 1938. Still crap.

* Exit Opera rotates screen to portrait.

* Keyboard won't work (common to all devices with keyboard)

It looks sweet though... Maybe some day... For now I'm back to Opera 8 for everyday use and SkyFire for more intense sites.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] uczmeg:
How are you using SkyFire on the Athena? I didn't think it supported VGA. The version I've tried always crashes after the splash screen.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] wgary:
I have version 0.61.0.4721. It works with a number of sites Opera can't handle.

Glitches:

- Eats battery like I eat M&Ms. The whole pack is gone before I know it.

- Some interesting half-screen artifacts when you turn off the phone without exiting the browser. You can then exit out but looks funky. Freaked the first couple times.

- If only it were a little faster, it might be worth the battery drain... As it is, I mainly use it as an alternative to Opera 8.6 on sites it can't handle.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Karmarock:
I tried some of the new Opera version and they allways seemed to me heavier than the original one shipped with stock roms.

Surfing I used to open many tabs with different contents and then reading them one by one.

While with the stock opera I could open up to ten tabs and navigate between them quickly, with the newer versions and beta I found myself stuck with no more than three tabs and it was very complex switching from one to another (many passages to do, not just pointing on the tab).

I don't care much about rotation as I surf allways in landscape mode with the keyboard attached)

Has this situation got better with the newest release?

I never care about the stock opera version number, anyone of you remembers it's version?

Where could I find the cab of it (supporting VUEFlO like the stock rom's Opera)?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
To All 7510 users,

Can one of you go to the extended ROM and copy out the cab files for Opera 9x and post it here? From what I'm reading here, it works better than any of the other leaked ROM as well as the official beta.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] uczmeg:
Sounds a good idea to me!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] xtep:
Here it is from my Spanish x7510, so it is the spanish version...

...but you can take the language files from other opera distributions.

WM6_PPC_HTC_Opera9_es-ES.cab
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
Thanks xtep. Do you know what the build number is?

Anyone figure out the right files to swap? I would love to try this version.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] xtep:
opera:about said Version 9.5 compilation 1114

I suppose that you must include language files on \application data\opera9\language, but I don't know how to set the language to use.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] techntrek:
Wow, that's a fairly old version. I'm currently running 1184, but also have tried 1409, 1476, 1522, 1660, and the offical betas 1718/a.

I stuck with 1184 because it was the newest version that didn't randomly switch my view; 1490 and on switch views and have memory issues. 1184 It does have a bug where you can't use the keyboard to enter web addresses, but it works everywhere else so I can live with it. That bug is fixed in later versions.

I guess I'll stick with 1184 until the beta stops giving me vertigo.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Karmarock:
It is not working with my x7500 with Sogarth/Irus 0MB pagepool on spl 1.2
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Dabarr:
Hey guys,

today whilst using the device I realized the following. When I'm running it at 120 hz and low Brightness certain dark screens (not entirely black ofc) display massive clouding, similar to an IPS display. Unfortunately, I don't have a good enough camera to capture this for you.

I'm running dark themes pretty much everywhere. I also realize it during a Google search or here in the xda app(dark theme). Some screen areas are darker then others. It definitely doesn't look normal and also goes away if I turn off 120 hz/turn on 60 hz.

Can someone check very closely if that's the case with their display also, please? Do I have a faulty screen or is it just the technical screen limitations in general?
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
There was a thread on here somewhere about this and on the Telegram OP8 channel someone had it v bad and was returning their phone.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Dabarr:
I was able to capture it with a dark (not black) picture. Of course my screen isn't glowing that much but you'll see the clouding / dark spots :(
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...9&share_fid=3793&share_type=t&link_source=app
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Dabarr:
Yeah, I'm thinking about the same right now. What a shame. I love that phone though
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Dabarr:
Thanks. Mine looks similar. Although his pictures are even worse than mine, overall it's the same
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Flatric:
Would you mind sharing a link to the Telegram channel? Per PM would be fine too if you can't post it here