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[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
Good to hear that you are able to boot your phone now. Not sure which flavour of rom you are using but I have had great success with "chil360" roms for osprey, especially Android 10 Havoc OS 3.7. It is kept up to date each month. I've tried many other custom roms and IMO this is the best and most stable rom for osprey. I haven't found any problems with it. It is also very customizable. Highly recommended.

https://chil360.github.io/index.html

Havoc-OS-v3.7-20200708-osprey-Unofficial.zip
[Moto G 2015 General] kenny_cfc:
I used Crdroid v6.8 by Jefferson. I got the screen replaced recently and it was not a job well done so it flickers. Have to rectify that and get the battery replaced.

Came back to this device thread after a long time and was pleasantly surprised to see so many android 10 custom roms!

You guys giving your views and recommendations is highly appreciated. Can i also ask do you guys use any additional zip? Saw on Chil360's telegram channel multiple zips to fix ui lags or thermal etc. Also does a particular kernel work better for you ?
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
If you read back when I started this thread I've found the Havoc roms and AOSiP Pizza roms the best.

I've found a few minor bugs in the latest Havoc 3.7 but no problems with Havoc 3.6.

AOSP Pizza May version is excellent and probably best battery use plus lots of customizations.

I've tried Dirty Unicorns and it's not for me. Same with Paranoid Android and the latest Potato( Takes ages to install and slow loading).

AOSP Quiche I found unusable and way too laggy which is a shame as I like the AOSP roms.

You won't go far wrong with Havoc 3.6 or 3.7 or AOSP PIzza May version.

See previous posts on how I unroot and clean re-install custom roms.

:good:
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
I use basically just Havoc 3.7 with arm OpenGApps pico with no additional zips added and no special kernal. This works just fine for me. I have however added Nova Launcher which allow many wonderful features and tools to customize even further. Everything such as wifi, bluetooth, mobile data, gps, compass, etc seem to work well. A good feature of havoc is the smart battery charger which allows a maximum % charge to be set after which the charger turns off. I set it to 90%. I've read that it is easier on the battery and will allow the battery capacity to last longer if it is not always charged up to 100% ever time.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
As per previous post. I have disabled the Stock clock on Havoc 3.7 and installed the free Google clock from the Playstore,

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.deskclock&hl=en_GB

This has cured the Flightmode lag on the Alarms. I actually use a paid for alarm called,"Alarm Clock Extreme" as it has more features and is very reliable.

I too use a different Launcher called,"Holo Launcher",

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.hololauncher&hl=en_GB

I don't bother with the Battery limiting. I'm not sure I believe these sites that say not to charge above 80%. I still have my original Galaxy Ace(10 years+) and the battery still holds 100% and it's been charged every-which-way-but-loose. Same with all my other Android phones. However it's a nice extra feature to give more choice.

Note: I have qualifications in Electronics and Domestic house wiring :)
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
Looks like I have found an issue with Havoc 3.7 rom. It doesn't happen all the time but sometimes when trying to turn on mobile data it won't turn on. The 4G or LTE icon does not appear and mobile data does not work. I downgraded back to 3.5 and 3.6 and this issue still appears.

Has anybody else had this problem?
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I've had this happen on Stock roms as well as custom roms but I've not had any problems with Chil's roms in this respect.

1: Check Sim card security. On one phone the Sim card I had was a tad thin and putting a small square of Sellotape on the back cured it's bad contact.

2: Manual Network Scan. Disable Automatic scanning and let the list populate and then pick a WRONG Network and let it fail. Then pick your correct one.

3: Network Reset. Write down any WiFi logins as they will get wiped then find the Network Reset option,usually in the Backup and reset section as I'm on AOSP PIZZA May version ATM.

4: Soft Reset(Emulates taking the Battery out). Press and hold the Power button for around 10/15 seconds until the phone restarts. This can clear clogged Ram and temp corrupted data.

Remember also if your carrier has a Network availability checker find and use that as a faulty local mast can cause all sorts of problems.

:good:
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Been testing AOSP Quiche latest version. Some slow loading apps and things sluggish. Not as good as Havoc 3.7 or AOSP Pizza May 2020 version IMHO.
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
Hi R1ffR4ff

Thank you for your suggestions. I tried them all to get mobile data working consistently but with no success. It is still hit and miss whether it turns on or not. However, after flashing the latest official lineage 17.1 rom, mobile data turns on and off and on just fine and is rock solid. Is there a tweak in Havoc 3.7 that needs to be made?
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I've never had any problems with any of the Havoc roms in this respect.

I can't remember but if there's an option to Enhance the call quality using 4G data I always disable this which may or may not affect the Data connection.

I do have the odd glitch that sometimes there's around 1gig of internal data stolen after I've updated some apps and it seems to be Random and I've not been able to track down how to get the space back. Luckily I keep a Nandroid which has not been affected handy on my SD card so can go back.

I've recently installed the latest crDroid and it seems seems pretty good,

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-t4075505/page6

https://crdroid.net/osprey

I used ARM Pico Gapps.
[Moto G 2015 General] Bixoo:
Hi! I Installed Havoc 3.7 on my osprey 1gb ram version with micro gapps and it's works well but sometimes it's a little bit laggy

I've noticed that it doesn't works the google backup, it's stay all time in "waiting to backup" (image attached)

Also I rooted the phone after first boot

Other bug has noticed is that the audio it isn't working sometimes, only works the speaker for calls audio

sorry for my bad English :(
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I've never had any of these problems with the Havoc roms but go back in the thread to the first post and see how I install the roms like this

Un-root phone if roooted and reboot to phone and then reboot to Recovery.

Factory Reset.

Install Havoc/Clear Dalvik cache and Cache and boot to phone.

Boot to Recovery and Factory reset.

Boot to phone.

Do NOT install Google backups. Add apps etc manually. I keep .apk clones on my SD card to save downloading except those that won't install from clones.

Root later.

Note: Chil360 has just released Havoc 3.8 with August security updates.
[Moto G 2015 General] Bixoo:
Thanks! its strange this problem, I'm searching for a daily use rom because my daily use device has died 1 month ago, it was a moto g4 (athene) and I need recover the backup from this phone, do you use an SD card for internal storage? because 8gb its too few space for my use and I am wating the delivery of my sdcard, so I'm testing some custom ROMS

About the backup, with my old device I always used the google backup for everything lol, also the whatsapp backup and it worked fine when I used custom roms like LOS :)

I will try the new version of Havoc!!
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Yes I use my SD card as Portable but when you find a rom that works as a Daily Driver for for yourself then you can change to Adoptive memory to increase the Internal memory.

I made a little blog on it,

https://cx500.000webhostapp.com/SD-Card_Android_Adoptive_Internal_Memory.html

CrDroid may work for you but remember it's getting the correct installation procedure that is important so look at the first post in this thread.

I only trust Google backups for my contacts/Photos and Calendar. What do you need off the old phone and will it boot at all?
[Moto G 2015 General] Bixoo:
thanks for the blog, weeks ago I readed your blog I think cause I was searching for an ideal sdcard.

From the other phone I want to restore the contacts and whatsapp backup, thats the most important things, It doesnt boot up, only the light of charge it works, is literally died because it accidentaly fell from my desk lol.

Now I'm going to install the latest CrDroid version, in some days more I'll tell how it works :D
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
CrDroid seems like a good Rom but a few small thing that don't work with it for me so I prefer Havoc 3.8 etc.

Buy a Wallet case for your G3. I've never yet broken a phone using wallet cases :)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_....m570.l1313&_nkw=moto+g3+wallet+case&_sacat=0
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
Can you please elaborate on what small things are not working for you on CrDroid rom.

I like Havoc 3.8 also but have never been able to get the Mobile data to toggle on reliably. I've tried all the suggestions in this thread without success. Cr Droid mobile data toggle is solid. The official version of lineagos 17.1 mobile data is also reliable.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I've just tried the latest version of CrDroid that is supposed to have fixed the pictures not saving to SD card but on my Moto3 they still won't save consistently if at all using either the Stock Camera,which I don't use much,or,"Open Camera" which is my Favourite. This is with a brand new Kingston SD card and an older Sandisk SD card both which have been checked on my PC. What is strange is that CrDroid will save videos to the SD card :/

The same goes for the latest version of Lineage.

Also and more important to me is that neither the latest versions of Lineage nor CrDroid will save my mp3 Playlists which I use everyday both in the Stock Player and a 3rd Party player(Pulsar). Everything functions for me on Havoc Android 10 roms from Chil360 except the stock mp3 Player which again can forget my Playlists but both Pulsar player and VLC player don't.

I quite often use my Moto to tether to my Laptop via both WiFi and/or USB and I've not any problems with the Internet data connection toggling in Havoc Roms and at the right time of day get better Download and Upload speeds than my Home WiFi deal :laugh:

I've actually gone back to AOSiP Pizza(Android 9) last Chil360 version as I've found it to be the fastest and very slick and the only thing it doesn't do is save the Stock Camera pictures to SD card but as I use Open Camera which it does save it's not a problem for me.

https://chil360.github.io/pie.html

If you're bored give it a go :D

Nice thing about keeping Nandroids on my SD card/Laptop is that it only takes a few minutes to swap O/S but I always do a Factory wipe before installing the Nandroid.

As per my first post in this thread I'm not concerned about Security updates as such as I keep an up-to-date Anti-Virus/Anti-Malware installed(Eset) and in all the years I've been running Android I've only ever had one piece of Malware and that was on a cheap DooGee X5 Max Pro and it was embedded deep in the rom by the re-seller and ESET was the only app to find it. It couldn't remove it but I found a clean custom Rom by Mokee that cured it. I still have the phone as a backup :)

PS

If I'm out and about I use Opera Browser as it includes a free VPN for added security. At home I use Via browser as it's light and fast. Both allow Bookmarks to be saved on their Homepage(Speedial in Opera")which I find speeds up my usage :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Chil 360 has released Havoc 3.9 .Seems ok but still has the Internal data eating bug. I left the phone overnight with around 2.8 Gb internal storage and in the morning this was below 2g Gb. Luckily I always check the storage before making a Nandroid Backup so went back. It seems to be a fault with Google Playstore/Google Maps and Google Playservices. It's like they update to twice the size they should be and even removing the Updates and clearing Data and Cache doesn't get all the space back. :(

Also I've re-tried crDroid and found that VLC player will save tracks to it's Playlist when other player apps won't. I've had to ditch crDroid as I cannot get my Phone data connection to work no matter what tricks I use :(

I'll wait for the next version :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Chil360 has released latest AOSiP Quiche Android 10. Unlike previous versions this one is not laggy and all things running good so far.

https://chil360.github.io

I'm also running and checking,"Floko" rom,

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-floko-3-0-t4135031

So far a great rom and everything working.

So now there are 3 good Android Q 10 roms I'm running.

Latest Havoc(Might still have random Internal data eating bug on my phone) and AOSiP from Chil360 and FlokoRom.

HTH :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I have no problem with Havoc 3.9 but also two new Faves are AOSiP Quiche,

https://chil360.github.io

and a Mega Stable new one called Flokorom from this thread,

https://xdaforums.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-floko-3-0-t4135031

BTW if ever you have problems with Playstore go Apps and Info > Google Playstore > 3 dots and uninstall updates and or Storage and delete Data and Cache. Then do a Soft Reset e.g press and hold the power button for around 10/15 seconds until the phone restarts. This emulates taking the Battery out.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I always factory reset before installing a Custom rom.

Once new rom is installed Factory reset again and if needed THEN install Gapps and for a final time Factory reset.

If I don't remove Root from the running Rom as per above I got the same problems you have had.

Note: Some custom roms include Gapps so you can load new Rom and Factory reset and boot the phone to check. If Playstore is installed then no need to use Gapps. If not just reboot to Recovery and Factory reset and install Gapps and then reboot.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
No. I've never yet been interested in Custom kernels. I've been happy with just the Stock Android and Custom roms :)
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
I just tried flashing the above recommended Floko ROM 20200916 to see what it is like. It seems to work quite well but IMO no better than the official Lineage0S 17.1 which I was currently using before flashing Floko. One feature which the Floko ROM was supposed to have was "smart charging" but I couldn't find any setting to do this. This is a feature I would like to have. Before switching to Lineage0S, I used to use Havoc ROM which has this feature but had a show stopper for me in that mobile data toggling seldom worked. I'll probably just stick with the official Lineage0S 17.1 which I think overall is currently the best ROM for the Moto G 2015.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Everyone's phone is different by 3rd party apps they install and possibly Rom install procedure. I'm suspicious of the 80% charging suggested charging that has appeared on Websites over the past couple of years. It does not match my experiences e.g I have my first smart phone a Samsung Galaxy Ace with the original Battery that still holds a full charge and that phone was charged without care every which-way. Same with my Samsung Galaxy S3. Even if the batteries did die they are cheap enough to replace..

If ever I have a problem with my Mobile Data connection I just do a Network Reset from the Backup and Restore section and then restart the phone as I know Smartphones and Sim card can get their APN settings munged. Even a manual Network scan can fix these problems.

I tried one of the latest Lineage 17 a couple of weeks ago and I think it was the FM radio that didn't work for me so that's a deal-breaker as I use the FM radio a lot.

I have 3 Nandroids on my SD card all working well as per recent update e.g Havoc3.9/FlokoRom 3/AOSiP Quiche :)

I like Android AOSiP Quiche as it allows me to move the 3 button Home button Nav really far right as I have Fat fingers and have a habit of hitting the Home-Button when texting shutting messaging down and I have to open it up again. It also allows me to use my Old Launcher(Holo Launcher) and it's Swipe Up and Swipe down functions but the other's don't but I sometimes don't get some Push notifications which I don't think happened with AOSiP Pizza so FlokoRom and Havoc are for me for now.

Keeping Nandroids on the SD card I can flick between the different Roms pretty quick :)
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
Hi R1ffR4ff

Thanks for responding to my posting. Although everyone is different, I still like to keep my battery charging from getting to 100%, usually around 90% as my research has shown and from personal experience that lithium-ion batteries do lose capacity over time. It's the nature of the chemistry inside the battery. I'm glad your experience is more positive than mine. Besides, although replacement batteries are quite cheap, it is not that easy to replace the battery in a Moto G 2015 phone. You have to pry off the LCD display and partially disassemble the phone

to even get to the battery. and then find some way to reattach the LCD display after. I would rather try to get the battery to last as long as possible.

You also stated I believe that the Floko ROM was able to properly save camera picture to the DCIM folder on the SD card. I tried this using Floko ROM and it still saved to /Android/data/org......snap folder on stock camera. Open camera has no problem directing the pictures to DCIM folder in settings. How did you get it to work properly on Floko ROM with stock camera?

For me the FM tuner has only been a problem on one version of Havoc, I think it was v3.4 or v3.5. On that version, the FM tuner just locked up. Other than that it has always worked fine including the latest versions of Lineage0S 17.1

I've also tried every which way to get mobile data to work properly and consistently without success using any version of Havoc ROM. It is working for me 100% correct from the start using official Lineage0S ROM 17.1. I'm glad that it is working ok for you.

I guess that each person has difference experiences. :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Sod's law. I've just swapped back from Havoc 3.9 and now the Stock Camera won't save to SD in FlokoRom :confused:

Not a problem really as I only use the Stock camera as a test. I prefer and have used Open Camera for years :)

PS

Just downloading the latest updated version of crDroid :cool:

PPS

Something I've never mentioned but might be relevant and took for granted.

When you download the rom/zip to a Windows machine you should right click on it > Properties and,"Unblock" it to to safe.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I can't remember which roms but be careful. Always boot the Rom before installing Gapps to check. If Playstore is already present you might not have to install gapps :/

Also any Custom Rom that requires Gapps installing can be run,"Google Free" :)
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
I just noticed that Chil360 has uploaded an early development LineageOS 18.0 ROM. (Android 11) Has anybody been brave enough to try this one yet and if so what has been your experience? Also which OpenGApps would you use for Android 11?
[Moto G 2015 General] Ritik99:
I have tried MalluOS, it pretty smooth, and has same bugs as Los18. Use Bitgapps and magisk Canary both are working fine.
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I think I'll wait a while for more versions/updates to come out as I'm happy with Havoc/ crDroid and FlokoRom for now but I'll soon get bored<grin> :cowboy:
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I always put my phone in Flight-mode when I go to bed. Woke up this morning whilst running crDroid and it had eaten around 500/600Mb of internal phone space. Similar happens to me with Havoc roms. Apps sizes have increased and clearing cache's etc does not get all the space back. I would have to uninstall and re-install all the apps which of course is a,"No-No".

As per previous posts I keep Nandroid backups that I check before backing up that have not become bloated so it's easy to restore. As it's impossible for the apps to have been updated it may be a bug in the O/S somewhere that is misreporting the app's sizes.

I've gone back to Havoc 3.9/Floko as I've found it the fastest and with the best battery life but keep an eye on it for when this bug appears. It could of course be a variable like an app or apps I've used but I can live with it but also still like FlokoRom :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Same here. Havoc 3.9 no good and AOSiP last two Quiche versions too laggy.

I installed Havoc 3.11 yesterday and it seems fine. I still like my old AOSiP PIE,

https://chil360.github.io/download.html?rom=aosip&ver=pie

Also still got crDroid and Flokoroms on my SD cards(Nandroids) :cool:
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
If you are going to start posting about kernels can you please start your own thread on them as I have no knowledge of changing kernels and don't want this thread to go,"Off-Topic". I started the thread so users can download complete Roms that I've been running :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
No worries. It wasn't a criticism of you. I just want to keep the thread simple as most people will read these posts via a Web-search and will just want to know what easy to install/use Roms are working or at least on my Xt1541 Osprey version :)

So as of now what I have around and works for me.

Android 10 Roms.

Chil 360 Roms.

Havoc pre-3.9 fron Chil360 works fine.

Havoc 3.1.1 latest version.

From this Forum

crDroid works fine.

FlokoRom works fine.

Chil360 Android 9 Pie

And my old fave AOSiP Pie Android 9.

I won't install any custom Rom that does not support the Hardware FM radio.

I tried Chil360 Android 11 lineage but no Radio so a no from me :rolleyes: and I find lineage roms a little lacking in tweaks.

I suspect crDroid will have an Android 11 soon :)
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
I'm having a strange problem that just started today with Havoc 3.11 on my Moto G3 2015 osprey. I went to boot my phone and it just went into a continuous boot process with the animated circle just going on and on. Let it go for couple of minutes. Still no boot. Usually it boots up in about 10 seconds. Has anybody else had a problem like this?
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I've not had that problem with that rom but if ever I do get a boot loop the first thing I try is a soft-reset e.g hold the Power button in for around 10/15 seconds until the phone restarts which emulates taking the Battery out.
[Moto G 2015 General] Gordster:
I first noticed that the phone was getting very slow so thought of rebooting the phone using your method of holding the power button down until the phone would restart. This is when the 'boot-loop' started. Could not get out of this loop so turned the phone off and held power and volume down button until TWRP came up and went into recovery mode. Then tried reflashing Havoc 3.11 ROM on top of what was there. Didn't work. Next tried reflashing Havoc 3.9 on top of what was there. Didn't work. I had to restore an old backup that I had from Havoc 3.8. This worked and the phone was operational again. Can't explain why but phone now works fine again. :confused:
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Just tested the Soft-Reset on my Havoc 3.1.1 and no problem but I seem to recall there was a version on my G3 that did what happened to you :/

Again everyone's phone and installs are different so the best we can do is find a Rom that works per phone :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
Chil360 has released first version of crDroid Android 11 :)

Chil360 - Android Custom ROMs

Android custom ROMs built for the Moto G 2015 (Osprey) by Chil360

chil360.github.io

I've not tested it yet but will do so soon :)
[Moto G 2015 General] R1ffR4ff:
I've been running Chil360's latest Android 11 crDroid 7.1,

Chil360 - Android Custom ROMs

Android custom ROMs built for the Moto G 2015 (Osprey) by Chil360

chil360.github.io

All good so far :)