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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dodsin:
Same here!!

The same happened to me after a couple of months of normal behavior, the 9502 just crashed and after that, the sandisk 16GB microSD was totally unsuable even on PC...

If anyone has any suggestions since I don't want to send it back as it still has data on it but cannot be formatted.

Cheers,

Dorian
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
Now a battery issue ?

First was the memory card, which I haven't solved, just using my 4GB and now I have a battery issue.

The phone is very hot after charging it for a few hours and it is only 50% charged.

Any ideas of what is going wrong ?

GM
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Well, it seems obvious, but both rechargeable batteries and memory cards are subject to failures.

In my 9502, I have a 8GB microSDHC card inserted all the time since day 1 (last July!), without a minor glitch so far (knocking on wood! :D), but I remember havig lost 2 fulll sized SDHC cards whist using my late Uni. They couldn't be read/written even on my lappy. I had to throw them to the garbage can.

By the way, I have just thrown a Sandisk 16GB microSDHC card into my wife's LG KF750 phone. Hope it, unlike yours, is able to last more than 2 months. :)

Regarding the battery, also whilst using the Uni, I remember having to exchange its battery more than once in 2 years, because the original one, and also the subsequent ones, were not holding any power anymore. My 9502's battery, on the other hand, keeps working, although I charge it every other day (often daily!).

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
Thanks for the reply Carlos.

Well the battery is back to normal. The phone is only 6 months old. Not sure what happened. The last thing I remembered doing was aligning those taps on top of the phone screen by deleting those duplicated files in windows.......someone gave that fix some time ago. Anyway, thank God it's back to normal.

Regarding the memory card. I bought off ebay another 8GB transcend sdhc, as I had one before and never had a problem with it. But I gave it to a friend when I got my 16GB. Also the transfer rates are better on the 8GB as it is a Class 6 card instead of the Class 2 16GB. I rather have stability. As mentioned previously, some user forums have stated that the 16GB have been known to be problematic at times. Anyway 8GB size is plenty for now.

Carlos, what do you think of the new ACER M900 coming out next month. It's made by the Eten Taiwan company, although recently bought out by ACER. I have had eten pdas before and they were a well made product, although not bug free. But the Eten user forum is great like this one, with many experienced programers that come up with new roms all the time. So, I am thinking this may be my next phone. The only thing it is lacking is the TV out facility which 9502 and the HTC touchpro2 has.

The only reason I am not going after the new HTC Touchpro2 is that it has the Qualcomm GPS chip. The gps chipset is way slower than the SIRF III chip when it comes to maintaining your fix position. The lag with gps qualcomm chipsets is really frustrating.

I know people are bagging ACER and rightfully so for many reasons, but because this phone is made by Eten and is feature rich, this may be a good next phone. Maybe I'll wait a month and see what people on the user forums are saying first, before going ahead.

Do you know if Qualcomm are getting any better with their gps chipsets ?

Thanks for your feedback.

GM
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Well, I use to fall in love with the gadgets I buy. :D

So, I think I'm keeping the 9502 for for a long time. You see, I bought it last year solely because my Uni died. And I chose it because all the smartphones I buy must sport a VGA screen (at least) and a hardware qwerty keyboard. And what really picked my attention from other smartphones then, was the pletora of keys it showed all over the place. I remapped them just the way I wanted, in order to have shortcuts for everything I use to launch. Superb !

Besides, I think my GPS needs are far behind yours. The 9502's GPS just works for me, but I must admit that my wife and daughter simply dislike it! :D

Anyway, wish you luck in your search for the perfect device for you!

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
Any1 going to cook WM 6.5 on Imate 9502????????????
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] akemeny:
i-mate ultimate 9502 camera with WM6.1

Hello Dr Phil,

I was particularly interested in a couple of comments you made in your post dated 28 March 2009 regarding the camera on your 9502. Specifically, these were:

"The camera definitely is lower quality than before...."

and

"I am reluctant to reflash again but would like to improve the camera’s resolution – does your home cooked ROM fix this and what else does it address Xenomorph? Any suggestions as to my difficulties with reflashing with your ROM and/or how do I use the Qcamera.zip file?"

I have had no troubles with the "official" WM6.1 ROM except for a noticeable reduction in quality of photos I can take with the camera. I have had lots of contact with i-mate support, but as many others have found they are no help whatsoever, they deny there is a problem, even when I send them examples of pics taken before and after I flashed to WM6.1, with some of the same scene taken in similar conditions! I find that the camera is for some reason incapable of taking pics like the ones I used to take when the phone was new and running WM6.0. It seems to me that i-mate have changed something in the 6.1 ROM and won't acknowledge it.

My device has been to i-mate service several times (no hardware problems) and i-mate have on 2 occasions sent me their "sample" photos, saying my camera is working as it should. The problem with this is that their photos are of similar poor quality to the ones I now produce, they simply don't/won't acknowledge that the earlier photos I sent them are much better.

Sorry for this ramble, but do you Dr Phil or any other forum member have any comment on this issue? has anyone else got the same problem, or a solution? I was discussing this on the old i-mate forums before they were suddenly taken down, others there had the same problem.

Cheers

a
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
You know, I never used the stock WM6 ROM. As soon as I received my device, I flashed the leaked Telstra WM6.1 ROM (v1.73), and that one already produced better pictures. It is very smple to compare them: 3 Mpixels pictures, with maximum quality, used to take around 1MB of space, then, versus some 600KB only with i-mate's v1.77 ROM.

Unfortunatey, I was unable to flash Xenomorph's cooked ROM, due to a checksum error, but I think he replaced the camera drivers with the ones present in v1.73, but he is the one to confrm it...

Cheers!

Caros
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
Soon after the 1.77 ROM was released, and after I read the first reports on the Imate forum (now closed) that the camera quality was not working as well as the previous ROMs, I contacted a live Imate support person. They did confirm that they were aware that this was an issue. However, when I went back to them a month later to see if a patch had come out, another tech support said, there was no issue. I told him about the fact that we were getting a max picture file size of 700KB and that was not what we should be getting with a 3mp camera ( fine resolution ), it should be about 1.3mb.........but they just continued to be either in denial or ended in their cyberspace support chapter13. ( waste bin )

Anyway, it will be interesting if we can get a cooked ROM for this phone with the 1.73 camera file. Look forward to it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djrock12:
my imate ultimate 9502 stuck on blue screen

my phone had wm6 professional. i took a backup using spb backup and then reset(hard) my phone. it started good enough. then i retreived the backup and my phone began to reset again and it got stuck at the blue screen that appears

soon after it. ever since then it is stuck there no matter if i tried the manual hard reset(using fn button +green call button+soft reset button) the white screen that should appear is not coming. it shows only that blue screen. please help me with this i would very greatful to you. help me please. thanx in advance .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
It is kinda weird that the hard reset by hardware means (i.e. Fn+call+reset) hasn't worked for you. I suppose you have already tried it many times, right? In this case, I'm afraid the way to go now is to flash a WM6.1 ROM into your device.

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djrock12:
yeah i've tried that hard reset a lot of times.

could you please tell me how to flash that wm6.1 rom. ihave this rom in my pc but the problem here is that i can not connect my phone to my pc. my phone is stuck at that blue screen and i can not even use that active sync.please direct me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Sorry for insisting in the hard resetting procedure, but are you really sure that, while your device is lit, when you press and hold both the blue Fn and the green Call buttons, and, whilst keeping those keys pressed, you press the reset pin with the stylus pen, and then, when you release all those three keys, the white screen asking for confirmation doesn't come up?

Anyway, regarding the reflashing procedure, I'm not sure whether it will work or not, but try to connect your device (with the blue screen on) to your PC, and run the previously unpacked EUM SFX executable file there.

Fingers crossed! :)

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
casouzaj,

correct if I am wrong, but isn't there a way to put the 1.77 ROM on a micro SD card and flash the device from the micro sd card.

That way there is no need of a computer connection in flashing the device.

He may have to use a 2GB micro sd card formatted at 16 FAT and not use a sdhc card.

I use to do this with my eten x500. I haven't tried this method with my Imate9502.

Please elaborate ?

GM
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Unfortunately, I don't have enough skill to answer your question. On my old Uni's days, it was also possible for it to be flashed from a SD card, but the current i-mate devices seem to present a proprietary flashing procedure.

The only person I know to have cooked a ROM for our 9502s here, so far, is Crescendo Xenomorph. Perhaps he could elaborate on the possibility of building an image for the 9502 on a SD card, but he must be way busy, because I don't hear anything from him for a big while now.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] djrock12:
yes i am sure that i hard reset my phone quite correctly and the white screen never shows up only the blue screen appears. and i can not even connect i my phone to my pc with that blue screen. these phones are surely a troublesome. so what do you suggest i do now. please help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Desperate measure :): don't remember where I read it, but try to replace the reset pin by the D-pad's center button in the hard reset procedure, i.e. press and hold Fn+Call+Center keys at the same time, and check if the confrmation screen appears.

I remember having been stuck on the blue screen, after I installed SRS WOW HD a long time ago, but the hard reset did work flawlessly for me, then.

Last measure: I wonder if you live in an area where i-mate has a Support Centre. Please, consider sending your device for service.

Really sorry for not being able to help you any further.

Good luck!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stathis95194:
Fn+Call+Power button pressed for 3 seconds. Always worked for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Oh, it's the power button, then. Sorry, my mistake. It is because I have always done it through the reset pin.

Thanks for the info, anyway...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] akemeny:
i-mate ultimate 9502 camera with WM6.1

Hello globalgpj,

I have the same issue with the camera on my 9502 (refer my earlier post dated 28 April 2009) and also raised this on the old i-mate forum prior to it being shut down. Also similar experience with i-mate support - they denied there was a problem, but now we have at least 3 people on this forum trying to chase down a solution to this. Previously with WM6 my camera took great photos, with good resolution, typical file size at least 1MB, now with the official WM6.1 ROM quality is way down and file size 500 - 700kb. Like you I hope this can be resolved.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jongoz:
WM6.5 on 8502

Guys i was doing abit of searching on the internet and I found that the pdafans.com guys had the wm6.5 rom on the 8502. I ran google translation on the posting:

PDAL WM6.5_ official version of the black PP_8M, storage: 50.10MB, procedures: 41.64MB, PP: 8M

Ya PDAL WM6.5_ pure black version of the official PP_8M not installed any third-party software, After three days of testing, the benefits are as follows.

1. Continuous line and the speed of Internet Express, I went in the net for three days, before the break when posting.

2. Internet, any incoming call can be. Have not received any complaints of my friends do not call into play.

3. Message to the (I use the SMS system, system), can notice a small box which shows pictures of each other, but you have to put him in contact inside the photo.

4. Open the Contacts menu on the left show the contact's photo, but you have to contact him in his photo placed on the inside.

Weaknesses:

1. Not to mandate the management of installed software, there is a conflict, I installed QuickMenu2.8 OK no problem. Installed tMan0.9.11, WkTask1200, HTC TaskMan, and so on are problems. Not compatible with their system.

2. Seems less boot memory, you try.

the original posting is here:http://bbs.pdafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=693440&extra=page=1&amp;filter=type&amp;typeid=445

there's also a download link which gives you a file named WMUPDAT.DIP. I ran the osnbtool on it and able to extract 2 files OS.NB and a .PRE file.

However because I'm no rom cooking junkie I am seriously lost. I know there's alot of document available here but I have to start from scratch. Maybe the gurus here can do the magic?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
Funny, today I went on the support page for Mobinova Corp, and asked if they could provide an update to the camera app v 0.72.09.2007, as they were the manufactures of the Imate 9502. They have just released their own device called ICE. However, I am not holding my breath with any support response from any manufacturer.

One of our guys on this forum is trying to cook a ROM with the camera app from the 1.73 ROM. I heard that was a better version.

In the meantime I have just made a pre order for the new ACER M900, made by Eten. I really liked the Eten devices that I had. Great user forum with lots of support. The main reason for the upgrade is the SIRF III GPS chipset. I can't stand the lag with Qualcomm GPS. Not sure if there is any improvement with the current and soon to be released new Qualcomm devices. Also the M900 has a 5 megapixel camera, not that this is essential, but will be better than the 9502.

I have installed the SPB Mobile Shell v3 and think it is very useful. But if you have to soft reset, expect at least a 3min reboot time to get back to the today screen.

I will let everyone know if Mobinova responds to my quest for a better camera app version.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mook32:
Telstra 8502

Hi Guys,

I have recently picked up an I-mate ultimate 8502. Its from australia, and seems to be locked to Telstra. Anyone know if its possible to unluck?And if so, how?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Have you actually tried to insert another carrier's SIM card? You see, the title of i-mate's webpage, at www.imate.com, is "Unlocked Mobile Cell Phones | i-mate", for what I suppose all their devices should be manufactured unlocked.

Otherwise, try to contact their Live Support.

Just my 2 cents...

Good Luck!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jik22:
Does anyone have an alternate download location for the official 8502 WM6.1 ROM? Currently, iMate's site won't let me download the ROM without registering the device, and it won't let me register the device (Which was bought new!) as it says it is registered to another user!

As yet, iMate support have been less than willing and able to fix the issue.... :(

TIA

Jeff
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Hi Jeff,

You can find t here (thanks to lasterato). By the way, I also had this registering inconsistency when I bought my 9502 last year, and i-mate took some 2 months to sort it out, after I bombarded their Live Support and direct e-mail address with posts and messages every other day, then...

Cheers!

Caros
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dongni filth:
hey my friends,

This problem causes me headache:

I bought an old Ultimate 9502, right now the Jog dial is dead, and the flash led of camera also goes wrong, it doesn't make any action!

I want to update again the WM 6.1 for this device to see if the Jog Dial and Flash go well again or not!

As the old device so i don't have any account and cannot log in the www.imate.com, can't upgrade it online!

what i have now are ActiveSync 4.5 and V1.77 WM 6.1 Rom for it!

pls advice me how to update from my own PC? How to do? what more i need?

Thank you

nhudong.vo@gmail.com

dongnifilth@rockpassion.vn

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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jamesford:
Did you get the imate 9502 to work vzochat with the front camera, if so what did you do.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ecronic:
Blackberry Connect - Problem

Hi Xenomorph,

I'm not sure if this is the right place but my requirement is something I believe you can help me with.

I have the Imate Ultimate 9502 from Telstra. I'm basically based in Dubai, UAE and got the phone via ebay. Everything works fine with the phone and I also upgraded my phone to the latest WM6.1 which is also fine. But recently I tried my blackberry sim along with the blackberry connect application for WM5 & WM6 but basically I'm unable to get a new pin for my phone. When I read through a couple of the forums I read that the Blackberry Connect 4.0 surely work with the WM6. Therefore I need to downgrade my phone back to WM6. Would appreciate if you could direct me to a Telstra rom. Im not very familiar with using different roms on imate devices so if you think I could use any other rom other than the telstra rom then please feel free to suggest.

Thanks & Regards

Ecronic
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SuckALot:
Some Issues

Seeing as this is the most active Imate Ultimate 9502 thread, I guess I should post my issues here:

1) shouldn't the RAM be 128 MBs? mine shows a total of 87.65 MB, how come?

2) memory leaks are always there, it seems that when you close a program not all the memory is freed for some reason, i think one major problem could be the SMS system, so like outlook maybe? I don't know, but I need to soft reset the device every couple of days. after a soft reset, I normally get between 38 and 40 MBs of free RAM.

3) The in-call sound is too low, I went inside the registry, to HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\InCall - changed InitVol to 5, it was 2 for some reason, even though the volume control when i'm talking to someone is at the highest (when i use the +/- keys inside the call, it shows max volume) - but anyway, it's still low, and I cannot find a "audiopara" file anywhere on my device.

4) The quality of the camera isn't good. It seems to be a big 'annoyance' here, I guess no solution was found yet?

5) Skype 3.0 (I got it from skype's website), i can only make one call after that, my phone freezes completely, I don't know why. Is anyone else having this problem? to get my phone to work again, I can either soft reset, or get someone to call me normally on my phone, or send me an SMS or something.

6) Also another issue with Skype is that the call comes out of the speaker phone instead of normally (aka like you would in a normal call)

7) The phone is still somewhat slow when it comes to reacting to pressing something, especially when sending an SMS or trying to dial a number, I have to press the button a few times before it takes it.

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A little background about my phone:

Obviously: Imate Ultimate 9502

WinMo 6.1

OS version: 1.77.0100.01.000000

I downloaded the ROM from Imate's official website.

Software Installed:

Resco Explorer

Resco Registry Add-in

Resco Audio Recorder

Vito Winterface

FTouchSL

PPCSoft psShutXP

CoreeCodec CorePlayer

Spb Mobile Shell

Opera Software Opera Mobile

A_C S2U2

Garmin Mobile XT

DinarSoft HandySwitcher

Microsoft .NET CF 3.5

Supware.net iContact

Supware.net iDialer

Supware.net GreenButton

Skype

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If you guys think there is a nice tool that would be nice to use, please let me know. (I know this is far too general, but I'm just asking to see if you guys find some tool that is just too cool :P)

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Also on another note, can anyone point me to somewhere where there is a good tutorial on how to create a new ROM for the Imate ultimate 9502?

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Also, I figured maybe we should create a forums for ourselves, so if you think that's a good idea, I created this:

http://z6.invisionfree.com/imateultimate/index.php

If you would like to join it, maybe we can have a bit more concentration and build some imate community, at least until XDA creates one for us here.

If you guys do not like it, let me know, and I'll remove it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] en33nch:
Help!

Hi just got my 8502 and want to sync it to my pc but i cant keeps saying it cant find driver for new devise pls help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hotboxx:
Install Microsoft activesync (for XP) of Device center (Vista or W7) first, then connect your phone with your PC.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nexus4444:
EUM update fail when upgrading my i-mate 8502 to WM 6.1

Hi all,

I bought an i-mate 8502 with WM6.0 preinstalled and tested everything was working OK. I installed active synch on my Windows XP PC.

I decided to upgrade to WM 6.1 and downloaded software from imate.com. The installation seemed to be working, indicated by the blue progress bar on the white screen on my 8502.

After about 5 minutes the screen on the 8502 was white with red letters stating...

"EUM update fail: Please reconnect to PC and run the upgrade again"

My PC said "Error 203" (i think). I followed the instructions to reconnect the USB but the message remains and is not effected by disconnecting the USB cable. I have removed the battery as advised in the troubleshooting section, but all i get is the same message when i turn the device back on.

Active synch on my PC shows "not connected".

I have also tried pressing OK + the minus volume key + soft reset, but this has no effect.

I am concerned the phone is bricked, which wouldnt be good since everything was working fine with 6.0 until i upgraded. Any help would be highly appreciated, i need to get the phone to respond first, then ideally upgrade to 6.1 but i'd be happy to have a working 6.0 phone rather than a brick.

help or encouragement please