yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Well first comparisation between bold and fully loaded ROM.

I took the Diamond Surface 6.1.1.16 NLD ROM and tested twice wíth and twice withóut startup programs and TF3D. All in all no much difference (about 1%) except for one graphics test, one file read and Arkaball.

Big differences in red.

Very strange: the VSBenchmark tool was faster when everything was loaded!!!

I think it shows again that these test are not very reliable in absolute sence, only in relative sence for comparisation between ROMs.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
weel, I'm afraid I still have a problem. After flashing Swtos my GPS doesn't work again. Don't know, think there's a harware problem.

Like I said a few threads before: I also tested Swtos WITH Manila, HTC Keyboards, Opera and Office. And it still is very fast.

Hope I can get my device to work again else back to repair.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] christonge:
I´m sure it´s a hardware problem.... probabably better to send it back anyway although from personal experience it´s a real pain.

What would be nice if we could do some benchmarking regard the age old question which type of ROM is best. A full cooked ROM with OEMs or a stripped ROM with applications added as cabs.

On the Spanish site where I post my Spanish ROMs one of the guys has done some benchmarking with my Spanish Full ROM using different radios... I´ve attached the files, it´s very interesting. Thanks to jalozano22 (the Spanish version of pietrucci!!) at HTC Mania for all his hard work on compiling the results
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
My opinion for the problems that we see these days in some GPS: are owed in 08 radio.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] losdrivare:
Great to hear your GPS is working again, I hope you'll be able to sort it out without too much hassle.

Just want to tell you that I'm really looking forward to seeing the results for the new Panosha Shine On 1.6 ROM with the new 20721 build. I'm curious about what improvements the 20721 will bring to a full ROM. Hope you'll find time to test it!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROMs: SpeedUp TOR and Swtos Full

Added two more ROMs: Swtos v1.0 Full version and Speedup TOR v2 WWE.

The first, Swtos Full, is interesting because before I also tested his Extreme lite with addons Manila, HTC Keyboars, Office and Opera. So we have two more or less the same versions, one with programs postinstalled (cab-version) and one with those programs buildin (I made both tests blue in my table). Surprisingly the one with the postinstalled programs is

faster

and about the same memory than the buildin. That's what both the benchmarks say... NOT COMPLETELY HONEST, because the full version has more programs installed than my addon version (but then again: this shouldn't influence the persormance that much as these programs aren't in memory during tests).

The second ROM is alphazero's Speedup TOR WWE V2, the tuned WWE193 version.

I am a bit disappointed in the becnhmark results, thougt it would be faster (and maybe even beat Swtos...). I tested twice, both with my default settings, but can't get it any faster.

At the moment I still have this ROM installed and it rally feels good and snappy. TouchFlo3D responses quickly, navigation through the menu is fast, starting programs ok. But as said: the benchmarks stay behind.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
thx for the test pietrucci! i would suggest not only to trust benchmark results. The results can be fooled by tweaks you do very easily. I mean this benchmarks do tests like writing files to ram and back to storage. Of course you will win this test if you rip out all kind of apps to free more storage. This will get you the benchmark lead but compared to a similar rom it will be anyway slower. i hope u understand what i mean =) I hope with V3 and integrating netcf 3.5 the benchmark results will look better too.

greetings alpha
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
See the previous post: I tested Swtos twice: once hite Lite with addons, once his Full. Surprisingly and interesting: the addon version was (a bit) faster!!! And about the same memory.

Nice puzzle for you cooks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swtos:
This is the reason that i prefer to cook only light & naked roms. They are

always faster than the same rom precooked with all apps installed.

Personally, i don't like full editions . It's released only for beta testers

who wants all programs preinstalled ...

A rom with all apps preinstalled is only a repackage not a cooking ...

Agree also that "feeling" is better than benchmarks many times ...

ThanX again
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
You're completely right alphazero, that's what I also said a thousand times before. What I also said a thousand times is that these benchmarks aren't 100% reliable. When you do the test right after softreset and do the test again after a new softreset you often some get different results. Not much (the indices thay the same) but it's there... That's why I benchmark twice most of the times.

Also benchmarks and user experience are just different things. As is stability.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
swtos we should really have a talk about our roms. im pretty sure we could combine something to make a very good rom. up to you feel free to contact me
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Can you explian why addons are faster than precooked? I mean when it's there in ROM and integrated with the rest, this should be faster, shouldn't it?

Addons have another big advantage off course: new versions. When there's a new version you will completely remove the previous version. With ROM versions that isn't the case.

So now we focus on naked chicks...eh ROMs with addons??
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] losdrivare:
It would be really great to hear everyones experiences about what ROM actually FEELS the fastest and most responsive!

Not to fill up your thread with subjective discussion, pietrucci, I created a new thread for this here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2594087

Since you're probably one of few who's tried so many ROMs, I'm sure you'll have a lot to say on the matter!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
I thought you'd never ask... Well, look in the grey closet, second shelf on the right. Be carefull, it bites!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
NEW ROM: Panosha 1.7 WWE Light

See first post, added Panosha's 1.7 Light.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
Thank you again and again and again. I need Full to. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] creatix5:
Danke für den Test! Ich weiß, ich sollte englisch schreiben, aber heute ist mein schlechter Tag *vbg* . Tolle Arbeit! Nice job!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Addicteddddd:
very very very nice table, i'm currently on panosha 1.6 full but can't decide what to go to :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROMs: Panosha 1.7 Full + Swtos 1.0 Naked

Added two more Greek babies: Panosha's 1.7 Full and Swtos 1.0 Naked...

And alphazero's V2.1 with NetCF3.5
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Which ROM to take???

EDIT 14-03: I changed my advise for 1.93 to 2.03

------------------------------------------------

So you Want my opinion which ROM to choose???

Well here it is: just pick one!

Although benchmarks give (some) differences between ROMS, in normal daily use really you won't notice any difference.

People often shout "very fast ROM, speedy ROM" (including me), but I think that are mostly feelings than facts (by the way: there's nothing wrong with these feeling, just fine!).

- Take any 2.03 based cooked ROM: they all are fastest and stabile at the moment; the cooked versions are just better with less bloat and more memory.

- Maybe take a look in my table which has the largest memory left.

- Take one with the programs you like cooked in. Or just a ROM that looks nice.

- Or take a naked/lite version and add the programs you like.

Advantage of a naked ROM is that new program versions will be overwritten, so no extra ROM memory in use.

Also you can just install the programs you need, no extra's.

And they seem to be as fast as ROMs with cooked in programs!

Disadvantage of naked ROM: you have to install everything afterwards (althoug you can automate this process; I postinstall about 20 programs in about 10-15 minutes, fully automated).

That's my opinion....

until there comes a new one...!

Pietrucci
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] foolsgold:
New Official HTC ROM [2008-09-03] better or the same?

Anyone install this official 1.93 HTC ROM "A_RUU_Diamond_HTC_PTG_1.93.410.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe"

It landed yesterday, over here:

http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=102

Any good?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
hello thank you very much for your test!

it gives me very good information about what to work on
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] udayrulz:
On the downside using add ons take more storage space then the same application already integrated in the ROM ..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swtos:
that's not true ....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] udayrulz:
Ok this is what dutty said .., i feel he is right..:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROMS

Two more:

Swtos WWE 20271 v1.0 Naked

SpeedUP TOR_ROM V2.2
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] udayrulz:
Thanks .. great work as always ..:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROMs: Dutty's

Two more new ROMs from Dutty:

Dutty's 20748 v1.9 UltraLite

Dutty's 20748 v1.9 Full

Both fast...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] laser21:
Swift has a new 6.2 rom out...would be interesting...:) Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Don't know... as far as I can see Swift's changes are about new programs and they have no influence on the benchmarks.

The thing that could make a difference is the updated NetCF3.5. But previous tests have proven there's no real difference in benchmark results between NetCF2.0 and NetCF3.5. So I also don't expect any better results in updated 3.5...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROM Swtos Vanilla: fasssst

Benchmarked Swots 1.0 Vanilla, his most naked

And also the fastest Diamond I've ever tested...!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] C.QL:
New one:

HTC DIAMOND TOR V.5.0 Mission Accomplished FINAL Recommended :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Testing it now... results are not really better as v3.0, don't know why.

Will perform a second test (as always).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] wontcachme:
Perhaps you could test the new swift series full or lite? This since there now are 2 of both with different pagepool. Will be interesting what is faster lite 12mb or lite 32mb

Love your work :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] charly_mx:
nice workon this thread... ass soon as your diamond gets bricked for all that flashing you will need to ask for donations to buy a new one :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
bricked? why should it get bricked???

I have a very special Diamond, it's made from real diamonds, can't be broken...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROMs: SpeedupTOR's

HI, two more ROMs:

SpeedUP TOR_ROM V3

SpeedUP TOR_ROM V5
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] scolling:
Hi Pietrucci

Great work, thanks for the effort and advice. One question - How do you do automate your postinstall then?

Thanks :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lmr2003:
Hi,

May I aks you if your could perform a benchmarking for the following french version ?

http://ppc.spotzone.fr/diamond/roms/DiamondStone_2.0_FRE_1.93_19965.1.2.3.zip

Seems to be very fast and very stable.

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] C.QL:
Thanks a lot man!:)

It would be great if you can test also these two rom's (or one of them):

* SC v3.0 NLD CE OS 5.2.20721 (BUILD 20273.1.3.3) 1.93.831.2 without radio and splashscreen

* SC v3.0 NLD LITE CE OS 5.2.20721 (BUILD 20273.1.3.3) 1.93.831.2 without radio and splashscreen

Hartelijk dank van 1 van je zuiderburen! :D

Perfect job!;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
I use Mortscript. Initial it's a bit of work, you have to record all your screenactions and then put them into scripts. I've attached a script file for TomTom7, I put some comment in it so I hope you understand what it does.

There are some other tools who do the same (maybe better), search XDA...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Usually I don't do foreign ROMs (ok, I did test Greek and Dutch versions but I just can't test them all, sometimes I also have a life...).

Why do you think it's that special?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Ok zuiderbuur,

I will test one of them (because they're Dutch), tested Skippy's before.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lmr2003:
I'm asking that because I find this ROM very fast and stable and if benchmarks are good maybe we can ask him to do a WWE ROM :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
Other fast, other stable and other deserves it remains in my device. Better is the last one. :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] C.QL:
Great, thanks a lot! :)

De bovenste lijkt me ideaal, maar als je al de onderste had genomen, geen probleem hoor! :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] lmr2003:
I would like to try your ROM but you don't have a french version
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] devilsreject:
Nice post ..thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
4 More new ROMs!

4 More new ROMs:

SC 3.0 NLD EXTREME Colour (20721)

SwiftBL 6.5 Lite 12MB PP (20721)

SwiftBL 6.5 Lite 16MB PP (20721)

Panosha Shine on 1.8

SwiftBL 12Mb PP and SwiftBL 16MB PP give no real differences in benchmarks...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] AndyChecker:
Any new recommendations pietrucci after these latest roms have come out?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] SaP1:
pietrucci, it's in ITA, but can you test this rom, please??

http://www.megaupload.com/it/?d=TYZ57LZ8

thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
SaP1, installed this ROM, but after installing the benchmarks and softreset the ROM freezes. And keeps freezing...

So can't test it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] patterns:
man this is SO SO helpful, thank you and well done on your hard work!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Three more...

Tested three more baby's:

Panosha Shimple 0.8 Clean (20275)

HaVeN 1.0.1 build 1999

Dutty v2 Full (20749)

The HaVen ROM frooze right after second softreset, so I couldn't test it...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
thanx, glad it is of any use...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duttythroy:
nice one bro seems this time ur benchmarks and mine are very close did u run one on the ultra lite
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] haven80:
:p dunno why... works for all the guys hat have tried it.

You can try testing this:

marsinellazio.altervista.org/Rom_HaVeN_v2_build_19965_DELUXE.rar

copy and paste in your browser.....

Its pretty full of software but i think its usefull for me see how it perform.

thank you for your work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
it's coming...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] sev7en:
Great work as usual petrucci.

Really impressed about the latest Dutty: I am with it now and it's as fast as reliable. Highly suggested for any English Diamond :P.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
Thanks pietrucci, I have a Raphael ROM now, but you don't have Raphael ? :D

Avatar gift for you. :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duttythroy:
You got a raphael already bro, you changed devices very quick. touch hd looks great:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
Tanks Dutty, but realy I don't have any Raphael. :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duttythroy:
lol, You getting one or waiting for touch HD
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
I don't like Pro, I need somethig like HD with 4/3, 3,5", 480x640 screen. :rolleyes:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] duttythroy:
its nice specs but only prob is that ist wvga like sony experia
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Ok, tested it. Publish tomorrow...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
hi Panosha, don't know exactly what you mean. You have a Raphael based ROM for Diamond? Where is it, you want me to bench it?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
My bad English... :mad:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=426587
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
why is that a problem, wvga? because of incompatibility with other devices/ROMs?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
NEW ROM: Dutty v2 Extreme Lite

Added benchmark of Dutty's v2 Extreme Lite.

As expected faster than his full version.

In fact one of the fastest on the market according to SPB and VS benchmarks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROM Speedup A.Z.T.O.R. v6`

New ROM Speedup A.Z.T.O.R. v6
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROM Swtos V1.2 WWE Full

Benchmarked Swtos V1.2 Full (20748)

Compared to his V1.0 Full (20721) this is a bit slower...

Did this test because Swtos himself declared that 20721 feels better than 20748: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2632852&postcount=351
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] Jesperpoulsen:
which one is the fastest rom of all times? Light, full etc.

I can't see them all in .jpeg.

But anyway, great work chief :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
petrucci have u ever seen a diamond got on vsbenchmark a score of 2813 ?= )
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
alphazero, have you ever seen the rain? :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS9_ipu9GKw
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
no but i know this one much better http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
But I am faster. We need some jokes here. :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
stop the fastest threads and read the forum rules ;D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swtos:
i think that you mean 6810 or 6846 :eek::eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
@swtos dont cheat =))) this is with jpeg =)

AZTOR V7 lite alpha build
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] panosha:
After you don't tolerate jokes also you offend me, you can continue alone. I will go to play with my dolls.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] logger:
Yes - it somewhat double standards that the moderators lock a thread comparing the pros and cons of two Alarm Clock apps.

Just title the thread "Benchmarking" and compare loads of different ROMs and that is OK. Oh I forgot - the mods read and want the ROM benchmarks/comparisons. Silly me :rolleyes: (Is there a tongue in cheek emoticon)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swtos:
here is a tweaked 1.3 full version (not released yet)

i think that is really snappy ... :eek::eek:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
nice work swtos
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] smegol:
swtos,

Are you talking about another completely new version of 1.3 full? From what i can se 1.3 full whas released two days ago.

"here is a tweaked 1.3 full version (not released yet) "
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swtos:
this is a test release that is based on V1.3 full ...

(a tweaked V1.3) ...

:):):)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
come on we can do 1000 =) and 3000 on VSbenchmark! maybe our cooperation rom will do that very soon !
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] smegol:
When will this new upgraded 1.3 rom be released?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
nope.. the highest on my device is 2747 (one of Dutty's). seems that some people get those results...

why do you ask, you got those speed yourself? I'd like to measure that on my own device...

EDIT: O I see, it's your V7. Should I test it to compare?

Ok.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Look in the attached zip-file, they're all there...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
swtos, you cheated on that too!????????

the highest SPB score I ever got was 514 (also one of yours).

can't believe you tweaked a current ROM to over 900....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
yes its aztor pietrucci =)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] swtos:
ha, ha it's a miracle not a cheat .......

:D:D:D Be patient ....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
I'm getting excited...

can't believe you get this kind of speeds out of the current generation ROMs (that's a challenge)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] alphazero:
i think pietrucci will soon find his rom =)))))))

you have much work to test soon.

v7 wildberry and swtos new release =)

wildberry told me she is the fastest but i dont believe her anymore and who is the fastest threads are not allowed. else a moderator will write me again a loveletter.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
if is has the speed of John Petrucci....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] ycimpir:
pagepool confusing

Hi Pietrucci !

Could you benchmark Swiftblade's 0mbPP and 16mbPP v7 roms?

I am confused about free memories on these roms.

Please read my message link below.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2691778&postcount=3867

Regards
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
New ROMs

Tested 4 more ROMs, all fast:

Dutty V2.2 Full CVSD (20753)

Wildberry V1 (20755)

AZTOR SprintFlavor (20755)

Swtos V1.4 Full (20755)

But: Wildberry and Swtos acting strange on VSBenchmark tool: extreme fast speed in test3, but jpg pictures not shown correctly.

Also I can perform this test only once, then I have to softreset before I can do it again (it's closing VSBenchmark during test...). Never had this on any other device.

Maybe other graphical drivers???
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Downloading 0MB PP right now, will test the 16MB PP tomorrow...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] losdrivare:
THANK YOU!

I have been looking forward to the latest benchmarks! =)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Some more...

Three more new ROMs:

SwiftBL WWE V7.0 Full 0MB PP (20753)

SwiftBL WWE V7.0 Full 12MB PP (20753)

SC 3.1 NLDTT7 Extreme (20753)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] murks_muell:
Mossis ROM is currently at v2.2 btw.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
Dutty's newest babe

Benchmarked Dutty's v2.3 20755.

Is very fast.

NEW:

I added a corrected Total index to my benchmark results.

In this index I excluded the very very fast but also "strange" VS Benchmark testresults from Swtos and Wildberry (so I normallized the results...).

Hope Swtos and alphazero aren't angry or even mad (!), in the absolute Total index these ROMs still are #1!

In the corrected index Dutty's v2.3 now is the fastest of them all.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] jeromenism:
what about SwiftBL's LITE Version 16mb pp?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development] pietrucci:
yes, it seems nice...