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[Shift General] tece:
BTW. i also had the Problem with hangup after 1st USB Disable Message. Hibernate didn't help and both devices did hangup. After removing Battery and restarting i forgot to connect via USBTool. Next try stopped again at USB-Disable 1. One More resart later and connecting via USBTool before running ShiftHardSPLFinal everything worked fine in about a minute.
[Shift General] giejo:
Great !

Same here on a french Shift :

i had the Problem with hangup after 1st USB Disable Message. I follow Cmonex's instructions and after removing Battery and restarting everything was ok !

Great work, many thanks
[Shift General] davidgreen:
Hi, i've the same USB\ROOT_HUB\4&188A10ED&0 disabled problem... i've italian shift with japanese language .mui and english language (actually installed) anyway... I tried to do CTRL C - hibernate... (black screen and shift hangup after i put it into hibernate mode) i also tried to restart snapvue from vista and enable disabled USB before updater start... No result:( (Error 260 connection) ... now, the updater tells me that my current WM version is 1.3 instead of 1.0 Shift and try to update from 1.3 to 1.0... any ideas?
[Shift General] tece:
sounds like you just need to click some more yes, sure, go on, yes, next, finish buttons to finish installation?
[Shift General] roger2046:
sucessfully installed on traditional chinese version. smooth no problem at all.

Suggest to turn off all the internet connection-wifi,3G, --usb tools will be more stable.
[Shift General] cmonex:
yep, very important that there is a live usb connection in WMDC when starting the hardspl process.
[Shift General] cmonex:
1.0 Shift was never your current WM version :) it's the version specified in the NBH (i.e. the update file).

I don't understand the exact problem though. perhaps a screenshot?

as for the Ctrl+C, you must wait for another cmd and Ctrl+C that too, before doing the hibernate, or it will indeed hang.
[Shift General] feyisetan:
Liberate WM6 not possible again after runnning HardSPL?

Hi, is it the case that Liberate (The easy way) does not work again after running successfully the HardSPL. I ran it ysterday and it hard reset my liberated WM6 (as expected) but I cannot install it back, kept saying unsuccessful. Well again, is there any point installing when we are now expecting the almighty update?
[Shift General] bg4qqz:
same problem

the same problem
[Shift General] davidgreen:
Problem solved... i tried again to run shiftHardSPLfinal... and it worked smoothly:)...the trouble has been caused by USB communication problem between WM and VISTA... i suppose...
[Shift General] scocios:
Great work! Would accessing the SD card be part of the upcoming ROM this week? If not, do you have an idea on how long it will take? Your work is great! I thank you and respect you for it.
[Shift General] cmonex:
SD is not part of it for now.

as for liberating the shift - it should still work, I guess it's just been a long time since last liberate eh? :D
[Shift General] thaihugo:
Took me one hour to redo it! Was faster tree month ago :)
[Shift General] androgyn:
We all getting older same speed :)

Androgyn
[Shift General] szjohnwong:
Chinese version OK!

Stuck in USB, ctl "c", ctl "c", put vista to hibernate, wait a few secs and turn it on, but no response.

I have to press and hold few secs to restart vista. I went direct to RUU, and than OK!

Thanks
[Shift General] Traumrakel:
Did a mistake...

I was too enthusiastic and used the RUU package...

Now I can`t re-liberate my shift, was following the old way and instructions, made a total clean, but liberate does not work. No icon under settings...

Any idea? HELP please...
[Shift General] feyisetan:
Snap Vue Reliberated!

:D I have now been able to reliberate my shift (The easy way), error had been mine, (not following due process). it was as eeeasy as before HardSPL installation. Those still having problem, I think it might have to do with issues other than HardSPL installation. My thought!
[Shift General] cmonex:
you just forgot to follow the liberate instructions properly. re-read them and try again. the OS has not been changed, so the only reason for this to fail is that it was too long ago when you liberated it last time :P
[Shift General] dimisxxx:
One question cmonex please i hear people that they liberate the shift again after the hardspl,........do i have to liberate it again for me to be able to put the kitchen rom when you have made it or the rom it will be in a way connect to the snapview automatically???? i ask so i would know to do it now or not to bother......just to now:confused::confused:
[Shift General] janstan:
same here. it only took me the same time to liberate my shift
[Shift General] cmonex:
that is because there is a hard reset performed after the flash for the sake of cleanness.

but, to answer your question, if you have put hardSPL on it, then to flash a new rom you do not need liberating. the RUU (or ECShift.exe also) can put it in bootloader mode in an automatic way - which now means hardSPL so will accept any ROM.
[Shift General] tece:
hey cmonex,

I can't wait to flash my first rom..is there anywhere hosted a buggy beta rom which runs somehow?

I want to start writing a GPS-Driver which gets data from "SnapVues" GPS. But to do so i need a rom which actually gets GPS-Data...

Any chance to get hands on your rom before you're publically releasing it?
[Shift General] cmonex:
yes you can get a test version, pm me with your MSN contact address. :)

btw, vista can pick up the GPS already.
[Shift General] tece:
never used MSN before..running it via Pidgin.

my MSN address, as far as i understand, is --edit--oh crap, send you a PM--edit--.

Waiting for a hello
[Shift General] sbueschi:
i did the same and could liberate as usual without problems. Just follow the

step by step guide very accurately. regards
[Shift General] androgyn:
Did I miss something?

As far as I know I can use my old BT Mouse to use in Vista.

Did you mean that?

Androgyn
[Shift General] motowiz:
Hi, cmonex, you say that vista can pick up GPS already. How, with your special ROM, through Snapvue? Or need special drivers for vista?
[Shift General] thaihugo:
you must have the non released beta rom, and gpsgate for example
[Shift General] Traumrakel:
Would it be possible to pre-release it to traumrakel@gmx.de (MSN)..? ^^

Cheers
[Shift General] milanvot:
Can you elaborate more about 'vista can pick up the GPS already'?

Milan
[Shift General] cmonex:
as thaihugo said.

TO EVERYONE: please be a just bit more patient :)
[Shift General] baucis99:
Hi cmonex,

I am following your's and other's efforts to enable hardware functions (WM6: Wifi, USB, SD, GPS, Voice) via kitchen roms very closely.

I am desperately waiting for GPS, Voice and Fullscreen under WM6 myself.

I downloaded the HardSPL (does SPL stand for "System Program Loader"?), but haven't installed it yet.

Now my question: Once I install HardSPL and SoftSPL, do I need:

- to re-install Vista?

- to re-install MS Office, MS Outlook, Vista-based applications, etc.?

I understand re-Liberation is needed now, but will be included in the kitchen roms.

And once I install one of your kitchen roms, do I need:

- to re-install Vista?

- to re-install MS Office, MS Outlook, Vista-based applications, etc.?

Sorry, if my questions are dumb.

Thnx for your answers

Take care

baucis99
[Shift General] michael85:
Now my question: Once I install HardSPL and SoftSPL, do I need:

- to re-install Vista?

NO

- to re-install MS Office, MS Outlook, Vista-based applications, etc.?

NO

I understand re-Liberation is needed now, but will be included in the kitchen roms.

And once I install one of your kitchen roms, do I need:

- to re-install Vista?

NO

- to re-install MS Office, MS Outlook, Vista-based applications, etc.?

NO

Only applications that are installed on WM side need to be reinstalled.

You don't need to reinstall anything under Vista :)
[Shift General] thaihugo:
Believe me, you don't want it. The new rom is based on final snapvue version. The actual rom is based on some old pre version.

The real rom should be out soon.
[Shift General] Traumrakel:
Ok, thank you for the info; being patient is hard...^^

You guys are doing a great job!

Cheers from germany
[Shift General] pitt1983:
sorry

sorry but, we need to reliberate the shift after this upgrade?

Many thanks for your effort guys. we are with you.
[Shift General] sbueschi:
Yes, you have to reliberate it. cheers
[Shift General] pitt1983:
thanks for the answer ciao
[Shift General] thaihugo:
if you flash a new rom after the upgrade, you don't have to,as it will be liberated by default. So you better wait for the first rom release.
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Dear hard-working ROM chefs,

oh yes, I know, I am not the most patient person who has ever walked on the earth.

And yes, I gladly confess that several times a day I have look, eyes wide-open, but then my face sadly drops to my feet.

So please forgive me asking you, if you can make an inspired guess when we can hope getting the cooked ROM.

Any straw to clutch at would be so fantabulous.

Thanks, thanks and another thanks!

S.
[Shift General] phoenixnr:
Please provide us with resonable timeline. I to am checking twice three times a day for the last two weeks as we were told that there would be a release within a day or two. Communication would be nice even if it is to say we are delayed.....
[Shift General] motoi_bogdan:
i subscribe. another week has passed past over the ... "sometime this week"
[Shift General] Guancho:
I agree. We are very grateful for your work (I have recently ordered my shift, mostly because of your great project).

Of cause you can take as much time as you need, but please provide us with some progress report (i.e. "we are facing some unforseen problems and will probably need some more days/weeks/months..").

I find myself checking this page every few hours in the hope for some news on the project.

Once again, thank you for your great work!
[Shift General] sbueschi:
guys stop spamming please, everytime such post appears many people login because they think the ROM is posted, and they just see another "sorry but can you give an update blablabla" post like this.
[Shift General] cmonex:
well, it is definitely not months or long weeks now! :D

but obviously I can't say exactly how many days. and when I can't say this exactly then I don't see what content I could post about. hope this helps.
[Shift General] feyisetan:
Better to read something than nothing

Please let people write. At least it is better than not seeing anything over these period of agonising wait. And it makes someone like me know that I'm not alone checking up to 8+ times a day. And of course it keeps the interest alive so that our ROM writers knows their work is anxiously anticipated...with appreciation, and they get encouraged!
[Shift General] lucid:
Cool, /me was thinkin he's the only geek

Great to see there's more people loggin in 6 times a day in frantic anticipation of the Shift Mythical ROM V1.0.0.1. Don't get me wrong , I do think it exists !

I'd say let's call the rom ShiftMyth v1..0.0.1

As a gliderpilot, I can use the Shift with SeeYou mobile or WinPilot , only need about 10 megabye storage for the Maps.

Will also use Reperion for Tracking.

From the rumours I gather that VoiceCalling has a good chance of being present in the to be released ROM, and GPS is about 100% dure I believe.

Dear DevTeam, are you trying to get SD working before release ?

It would be great to hear from all members what they are working on specifically and hear about your problems that need tackling, we might be able to help !

Keep up the excellent workz, one day our Shift's will flashed...for sure..
[Shift General] cmonex:
haha shiftmyth. it is not a myth :)

the rest is correct.

but let's not make offtopic posts in this thread. this thread is about hardspl and sspl. let's go to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=375898
[Shift General] mgetov:
Bluetooth on WM

Nobody said anything about the bluetooth in the WM part of the Shift so I'll ask. Is there a chance we could use the bluetooth with the custom ROM, cause I have a Holux bluetooth GPS for some time and i would like to use it with my Shift

Thanks guys for the great work
[Shift General] foxmeister:
Why would you want to use your external GPS with the Shift, if the cooked rom makes the internal one accessible?

Regards,

Dave
[Shift General] Rabia:
am buying my shift 2nd of next month, i hope by then the rom will be released so i can do everything at once and then upgrade slowly, my priorities are bt for phone since calling is part of having a bt headset pairing with it, also wifi from wm part
[Shift General] lucid:
Maybe he/she want's to use a different GPS than the one built-in. Maybe the external one is better, or has a logging function. It's a stretch, but could be.

My best bet is that mgetox does not know we will have GPS soon ;) From within the device.

The best reason for wanting bluetooth on the WM side is either exchange of data with other devices, like a contact card, or the option to connect a HANDSFREE BLUETOOTH EARPHONE ;) Need voice dial to work first.

SO we will get :

1 - GPS inside working for SnapVue 99,9%

2 - GPS inside working for Vista 90,0%

3 - Voice Calling with the Shift 75,0%

4 - SD Card Access from WM 25,0%

5 - Bluetooth Access from WM 25,0%
[Shift General] mgetov:
lucid, the Shift is not mine, i just have to "make" it work with the holux GPS. Thats why i'm asking about the bluetooth :)
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi,

according to individual preferences we have different wishes for the new ROM. Of course, SD would be most important, but no one mentions the possible use of the whole screen. I do not know the correct term for it. WVGA?

Do you all take this for granted or aren't you interested in the use of the complete screen? Or can't it be done?

For me it is very important and I would be really really over the moon if that was possible.

Thanks!

S.
[Shift General] foxmeister:
IMHO, these two are likely to be 0% and 0% - I'd love to be wrong but it just doesn't look possible to me that this can be done whilst Vista is not running.

Regards,

Dave
[Shift General] foxmeister:
The question is, why do you have to make it work with the Holux GPS? It seems quite certain that a cooked rom will enable the onboard GPS anyway, so I'm interested to know why this is a requirement.

Regards,

Dave
[Shift General] lidan25:
help!!

hi i need some help i dont have a cell servic of nextel in israel and my system has only CDMA !!

so i cant get my WM6 Snapvue to log in to the internet so i cant get files in this side only. only on the Vista system i got Internet so the usbtool.exe cant run on Vista how can i get it in to the Snapvue side with out geting it on the internet to ?

so i can SSPL and HardSPL and custom ROM in to it so i can get the GPS soon to work in the new rom in hare that will be soon in hare !!
[Shift General] motowiz:
Sorry this is to difficukt to me. i can't understand what you "CAN" and what you "CANNOT".

First you can't connect to internet from SNAPVUE but can with VISTA? If a connection is made, through GSM, in Vista it has to be available in SNAPVUE, afaik.

If you make internet connection through WiFi in Vista because you cannot connect through GSM that's tottaly different.

Anyway the only way I can see for you to liberate your WM side and HardSPL it, is getting access to e-mail through SNAPVUE only that way you can install USBTOOLS and sync between VISTA and SNAPVUE.

As SNAPVUE cannot connect to internet (before liberated) through any other way except GSM afaik, you have to buy a SIM card that ables you to connect to e-mail.
[Shift General] lidan25:
the problem is that my Shift is only Cdma i cant get a sim in to it. it has no port for A Sim card so this Cdma is only for sprint and in israel we dont have it so thats the proplem and i need to find a way to get the USBTOOLS in to it with out the internet in the SNAPVUE thare is no way to do it ??
[Shift General] lidan25:
help

so is thare any thing i can do with out the internat on the SNAPVUE ?
[Shift General] cmonex:
WVGA is technically definitely possible. the SPL can use the full 800x480, this is confirmed (tricolour screen is full screen).

the thing is how to patch the display driver to enable this (and possibly lcd init in kernel too).

so this is not ready yet but definitely a priority.
[Shift General] cmonex:
heh, this hasn't been tested on CDMA.

drop me a PM with your MSN contact address and I might be able to sort you (of course we won't magically change the CDMA into GSM but SPL might be possible)
[Shift General] lidan25:
hi i have sent you a PM

with my info of MSN MASNGER

and Email

hope you can help

thanks Agin !:D

lidan
[Shift General] devictoria:
What a good news !
[Shift General] Settembrini:
Hi Cmonex,

thanks for the information. I am really looking forward to your work and I am glad to here that you will probably be able to make WVGA possible, if not in the first version of the ROM then hopefully in a following one.

Thanks a lot!

S.
[Shift General] asciifish:
For all the members waiting here for the cooked rom, If you appreciate all the hardworking of these guys, please do remember to donate. I know I will show my appreciation by donating !!!
[Shift General] Traumrakel:
/agree 100%

/donation done
[Shift General] irakliontevza:
excuse me but what's going on about cooked rom, is there any activities?
[Shift General] feyisetan:
The art of patience

We are all learning the virtue of patience and longsuffering here, the world needs it!
[Shift General] Rabia:
fyi

just to let u know after trying modaco procedure, i could not find the file librate in the settings, after some tinckring around i had to take out folder startup instead and putthefile in it the du network wizard to get the rest option and rested so the cab was launched automatically, installed then when and deleted
[Shift General] Rabia:
a food for thought specially for those who knows shift hardware, can't we remove the mobile processor and replace it with a small htc mobile board (something like the htc dual or htc touch) and just replace the screen out put or something, it would save everyones life and give access to everything we would possibly imagine :) wouldn't that be nice :)
[Shift General] davidgreen:
hum...:confused:

sound interesting, can't we just use the HTC mobile part hardware with htc touch rom above it, (using standard WM drivers for GPS, Wifi and card reader)

:rolleyes: it sound too easy... I know
[Shift General] saiweb:
It sounds interesting, question is how many people would do it successfully without breaking their Shift.
[Shift General] Rabia:
the hardest part would be converting the output of that board with this one, maybe of the people who actually opened the shift would know if the belt connection of the MB and display screen exisit on another HTC, see i really guess companies like HTC would not design a new product like for this phone, i bet its based on the Advantage Hardware with little more extra's
[Shift General] cmonex:
there is no such thing as "standard WM drivers". drivers are hardware specific.

for god's sake why would you think it is based on the advantage? the processor and everything else is different. the closest is a kaiser but the LCD and some other things are of course not the same.

Please open a new thread to discuss this.
[Shift General] Rabia:
i opened another thread for this on the following the the reposnse is there too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2480944#post2480944
[Shift General] Gwailo:
Not sure if I've over read it but are we talking about an upcoming custom Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1 ROM? Would definitely appreciate 6.1 with threaded SMS.

Anyway, thanks for all your efforts and good luck. Can hardly await a release.
[Shift General] alazarid:
how to verify th hard spl?

Dear all,

I would like to know how I can be sure that the Hardspl update is successful.

It sounds like a stupid question but I cant find a way because on reboot it does not show any info like the other htc's tha I have

best regards

Aris
[Shift General] feyisetan:
Once you follow the instruction and it's installed, that's it. No particularly visible changes to the device, this was supoose to be the precursor to the almighty custom ROM which will release all the magic hidden in the Shift and which we are all still patiently waiting for... and learning to wait for. We continue appreciate those cooking the ROM though.
[Shift General] Rabia:
oh yes i bought my shift since almost 2 weeks and struglling to wait, i can't wait no more :(, am willing to test anything or at least developers tell us what holding it or whats the status, is it money or is it the big bang surprise that u stumbeled on and u want us to surprize us with it :) i dunno but sure enough i can't really wait longer
[Shift General] cmonex:
6.1 is not a problem ;)
[Shift General] cmonex:
I am sorry for the extra delay. a few days ago my laptop (which is my main work machine temporarily, for a few months now) had a hdd crash, new hdd & system reinstall was necessary. and of course data recovery.

:angry:
[Shift General] cmonex:
you may check in mtty

use the command "info 2", should return something like HTCS00000000....HTCE

i.e SuperCID ;)

and of course the NBH signing patch is in it too.
[Shift General] nbos04:
This is good news. I take it it means that some of the driver issues for the phone, etc can be overcome? And how does 6.1 go with so little RAM?

OK, my specialty is buildings not electronics so the above may sound silly:confused:. I appreciate all the hard work that is happening. I know it is most certainly not my area of expertise:)
[Shift General] Settembrini:
GPS

Hi,

sorry, can't find the thread in which someone said that the activated gps would drain the battery even when you do not actually use it.

So my question. Would it be very difficult to release two ROMs? One with gps enabled and one without. I guess there are lots of people who do not really want to use gps.

Of course, this makes sense only if it is true that battery will be drained by gps even if it isn't actually used. I do not know that.

Thanks!

S.
[Shift General] efrost:
Hello!

Just wanted to describe how I've solved this problem.

I have tried all the solutions described in this thread: hibernate, remove battery, fresh boot, but nothing helped.

What I did is disabled "Enable advanced network functionality" in the SnapVue->Start->Settings->Connections->USBtoPC

After that everything went ok.

Regards,

efrost
[Shift General] pharaons:
I have the Arabic enabled Shift and faced the same problem. Restarting solved it and installation went smooth afterwards. Hope that helps.

Regards,

Samer
[Shift General] saiweb:
I have a CHT (Chinese Traditional) and gave me hiccups for good 3 times. I blame the hibernate. Third time I let it go hibernate for good half an hour and could not wake it up. I forced it to reboot. This time, I just ran Rom Update Utility, that got extracted from the ShiftHardSPL.exe and thats all, it did. Thanks cmonex. Now I can't wait to change it to WWE. I can't read Chinese, but I manipulated using online translators for few stuff like English, USA and liberated it. I bought this chinese, because I got it from a friend for lesser price. Basically he did not like the crippled WM and was thinking that he could make phone calls and GPS. One more thing, since I rebooted it while the WM side is blank, the system started installing drivers saying installing drivers for Qualcomm CDMA. I let it go, once the installation said successfully installed USB Sync, I ran the RomUpdateUtility. This made it HardSPLed.

Thanks

Ram
[Shift General] cmonex:
how do you mean, you only ran the RUU itself? the other steps before that in the process were not executed?
[Shift General] alisilove:
Thanks !!! great news
[Shift General] safak:
I feel like i m dumb...I m reading but for sure i m missing something...

WM does not let me run enablerapi.cab ... naturally i cannot hardspl my device

Can someone - please - tell me what i m missing...

Why i can not have the enablerapi run ?
[Shift General] cmonex:
have you liberated it at all ?

it is ESSENTIAL that you run that cab first before doing anything else with the hardspl program..