yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Toast Rack:
I routinely do this now, and it works OK. But it's very irritating to have to do!

The Speakerphone button on the standard dialler is small, awkwardly placed and has no shortcut, so it often takes a couple of tries to get it. This means for incoming calls I have to say "hello, hang on a minute" while I get the button down. There's no default speakerphone mode either.

Plus the speakerphone volume is actually so high that it's deafeningly loud against your ear even on the lowest volume. So I end up holding the handset an inch or two away from my ear, with the bottom angled back to my mouth for the mike. Again, awkward.

I have installed the new 1.77 ROM from i-mate, and there seems to be no change.

What's more, the 1.73 bug where the phone turns off the notification sounds for New Email, New Text Message and Reminders is still there. Twice now in two days my reminders have been mute. This makes it impossible to use the phone as an alarm clock reliably.

Plus the camera app STILL doesn't have geotagging, even though it is documented in the original user manual. The camera app is still the slow limited 0.72 version.

Also, is it just me or has battery life gotten worse since 1.73?

Any suggestions/corrections welcome.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
An alternative way to the speakerphone function: press and hold the green phone button...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] liomojo:
just a thought,

did you managed to get wm6.1 for the ultimate 6150 or can you get one for us misarable users.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
Bro,

I think the newest Imate rom, it coming from your version?? since i install your version and delete it and reinstall the rom from I-mate.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
The newest ROM for the 9502 is v1.77, released some days ago by i-mate. Look at their webiste for details...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dion.parkinson:
issues with unlock and locking

has anyone else been having issues with there 9502 locking up at trying to unlock unit

cause mine has been doing it since upgrading to 1.77
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I use to lock my 9502 whenever I carry it in my pocket (I actually run Toggle AutoLock for that purpose), and I have never faced any freezings of any kind. You must be facing interaction with some 3rd party application you have installed. You could try to figure out which one is causing you problems by uninstalling them one by one.

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dion.parkinson:
thats what i thought but currently i have no apps installed other than the update

maybe i should re run it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
Any1 can help me to solve prob??

my problem is the sms settign kind to be lock for several service provider??

any1 have solutions???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vvvyky:
For help: Who can help me solve the imate 8502 of the ROM?

Who can help me solve the imate 8502 of the ROM? There are synthetic methods, I tried several ways to not brush into the post-synthesis machinery.

Download ROM:

http://cid-7750151437c72db4.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/I-MATE 8502 ROM/I-MATE 8502 WM6.1 官方原版ROM
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] karaj2:
help to 9502 dumping

how to dump 9502 rom .ROM is mbn file
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vvvyky:
This tool is a problem with the hope that friends can be corrected

This tool is a problem with the hope that friends can be corrected
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mister B:
Dialer skin fault on 8502 1.77 rom !

Just updated from 1.73 to the 1.77 release.

First fault I spotted is the skin button & text alignment is well out in the dialer skin.

Anyone else got this ?

Anyone got the files from 1.73 to fix it !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Look here. Enjoy it !

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mister B:
:-D

That resolved it, thanks for the link.

Would of thought the imate rom would be free from simple errors due to the amount of time they have spent testing it !

Do you get crackling & popping noises from the speaker at the start of sound notifications or when listening to music ?

Would like to resolve this too but have found nothing so far.

Also could do with equaliser to improve mp3 playback via headphones, have tried SRS Wow (hard reset required) DSP & HTC equaliser but none work !

A few simple tweaks & this phone would be the Ultimate !!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
You're welcome!

Yes, like you, I tried SRS WOW HD some months ago (not in this ROM, but in the leaked one, which also required a HR, by the way).

I normally listen to music through A2DP headsets. Without any changes, the sound is passable. I've tried TCPMP's equalizer and the sound becomes full of crackling noises, like you have reported. Simply unlistenable !

Still waiting for some guru to read this thread...:D

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ch0kee:
Wrong Device ??!

Hi there!

I bought an i-mate ultimate 9502 from second hand. They installed a bad software on it, I think.

When I run the 1.73 or the 1.77 installer, I got this :

"Error [217] : Wrong Device.

1. Please insert the Mobile device"

I bought it today, I can't believe that. Have you any ideas ? :(

System infos:

Model : PP5400

Versions:

OEMS : 0.69.01.0000

E-boot : 0.56.01.0000

Modem Version : 31.20.10.0064.0100.01.000

OS Version : 0.92.0100.01.000100

WLAN FW Version : 1.3.1.14

WLAN Driver Version : 1.3.1.4

BT FW Version : HCIStack2.0EDRv19.2
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
I just got a second hand imate 9502, but I didn't get the ROM unlock code. Is there anyway to find out what this is, as I can't update the device to the new 1.77 ROM without this code ! Help !!!???

Just got the solution........logged in on imate, and where it showed my registered device, I just clicked on the "i" icon, and there it was, the IMEI and the ROM unlock code.........got the help from online Imate support.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Your model should show "ULTIMATE 9502" (without the quotes) instead. You should contact i-mate. Find contact details below.

Create a user account on www.imate.com. Then, register your device, by running "Device Customisation" on it (if it has not already been registered by the previous owner, of course), filling up your username and password exactly as you have provided at the account creation.

Then, whenever you are logged in to your account, click on something like "MY ACCOUNT". Your device will be shown with an "i" inside a little blue circle . Click on it and a window will pop up containing the device's IMEI and lock code.

If you have any problems, try to contact them through either Live Support or techsupport@imate.com.

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ch0kee:
I sent the same to i-mate tech support. They advice:

"Please go to our site www.imate.com, register your device and download the setup program."

I don't think it's the best they can do..

Is there any method to flash the rom directly to the device ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
PP5402 is the original model made by mobinnova, which is the OEM that makes the 9502 and the 8502 for Imate. http://corporate.mobinnova.com/about.html

Maybe your phones was flashed with a prerelease rom and someone has forgot to flash it with the imate firmware.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ch0kee:
Thanx Solutior,

then what is the solution ? How can I flash the i-mate firmware ? (i-mate techsupport doesn't really help)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mxzyplx:
Speaker

Hello Friends..

I have to install WM 6 With Yuch Version RM080205Beta1_5_WM6_1 but Speaker Phone is not working.. How to make my speaker phones work again... ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
Can anyone let me know what the best video player is for the 9502 ?

I would like to play avi files, but if it is better to convert them to some other format ?

Can anyone advise what the best pc video converter software to get ?

I know that coreplayer is not compatible with Imate 9502 Qualcomm® MSM 7200 at this stage.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
I have installed the latest ROM 1.77 wm6.1 and the speaker phone works fine ! It's just the volume when answering a call is very low without using a BT headset. Any solutions ???
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] congpay:
hi, just flashed to the new rom and so far so good :) can't complain but indeed the voleme when answering calls are kinda low...but it's hear-able for me so no problem there.I think since imate release the official WM 6.1 OS this PDA is really becoming an ultimate phone :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
do you still have the 1.73 rom running on your device ?

If so, I am trying to find out what the camera.exe version is installed. Right click on camera.exe and click on properties, let me know the version.

The reason being, is that the camera in rom 1.77, is not that good. IF the version is a newer one in 1.73 ( really odd if it is ) then we can extract the camera.cab files and install it on the new one etc...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
Has anyone tried to install the SRS WOW HD cab file to increase the volume when talking to anyone on the phone ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
coreplayer is compatible, just change the video out mode from qtv to raw framebuffer.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mister B:
Yep, needed hard reset after testing it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stathis95194:
Guys, sorry to bring up this thread but i have the exact same problem after upgrading from 1.73 to 1.77 and the imate forums are closed down. Can someone post the solution here please?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] iwwwwwwi:
Same problem here. Does anyone have any solution for that?

What's the state of I-mate speciffic subforum? :>
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] globalgpj:
This was the original message; re fix for alignment

Apparently there is a redundant file inside our 1.77 ROM that lead to some glitches in the dialer skin.

Just browse the Windows folder using resco explorer (please check the "Hide files in ROM" for the Resco Exp) and search the file named VtAp.dll, VtAp.dll.****.mui, PhoneMenuEx.dll, PhoneMenuEx.dll.****.mui. Delete them by moving to Recycle Bin first then restart then Empty the Recycle Bin... Try the phone and VOILA, IT WORKS!!! No more misaligned button...

I found I could only delete the mui files, as the dll were in rom. But it fix the problem when I deleted the 2 files with the mui extension and did a soft reset.

Enjoy !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stathis95194:
globalgpj, that did the job. Thanks a lot. Also in my case VtAp.dll and PhoneMenuEx.dll couldn't be deleted, but deleting the mui files to the recycle bin, restarting the phone and emptying the recycle bin fixed the alignment problem perfectly.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Qasmi:
SMS/Email gets deleted when soft reset!

I just upgraded to the official ROM on my ultimate 9502 but since then whenever I soft reset the phone all sms/email gets deleted. I do not know why? anybody have any idea about that? Any help will be appriciated.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I updated to the official WM6.1 ROM since it was released by i-mate, last November. Have soft reseted my device countless times since then, but have never had such a problem...

Not quite sure what to suggest to you here. Reflash the ROM, perhaps?

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Qasmi:
I hard reset couple of times and did reflash the ROM 3 times but still the same issue. I even contacted the imate for this and they say that might be a hardware issue and I should go and see a customer service center but in my opinion this has nothing to do with the hardware as on previous ROM it was working perfectly alright. is there any cooked WM 6.1 ROM available for Ultimate 9502? I would like to give it a try as well. Thanks for the help. Appriciated.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I also don't believe your problem might be caused by some hardware failure. Have you already tried Telstra's leaked v1.73 WM6.1 ROM? Its download link is in the first post of this very thread. I had this one flashed in my 9502 from last July through Novermber. It happens to share the exact same build as the one present in i-mate's official v1.77 ROM. It was a good ROM too. Everything worked for me with it. You might be a little luckier with this one.

However, if you, like me, came precisely from v1.73, I'm afraid nothing else comes to my mind to help you out. Really sorry!

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
ALTIMIT

hi casouzaj, how r u? I'm Xenomorph from imate forum who posted a dialer skin fix... ^^

long time since imate closed their forum.. shame on imate..

Do your 9502 completely muted after ending call? mine just like that recently, and some ppl say that it's the WM6 issue, am I correct? It's really pain in the *** for me.. I have to do softreset after ending a call which make my phone completely useless..

I dunno what cause my phone to muted like that...

Anyone here having same issue?

btw,mobinnova launched new cool PDA: http://www.mobinnova.com/en/ice.aspx

Greetings to all... ^^

Sory for bad english...hahaha...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Hi Xenomorph,

Welcome back, man! Great to have you back to business! :)

Yes, I have noticed such an anmoying behaviour too, but, for what I have observed so far, it was caused by softphone (VoIP) applications, like fring and others.

Since I unistalled such programs, the muting issue hasn't happened to me again. The only VoIP application which I found not to cause this problem for me is Nimbuzz. It brigns its own class of problems, though. E.g. when I'm calling through HSxPA, it often crashes without issuing any error messages.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
VoIP

Thanks...hahaha... :)

Just realize that XDA Dev have Imate forum,and you also here,so I start posting something... :p

Hmmm... I just installed WM6,1 built-in VoIP,the "internet calling" that reside in today..Maybe that caused the problem?

I tried to disable it,but no luck... Maybe should uninstall it... :confused:

Or maybe because of that, Imate didn't include it inside their WM6.1 ROM?

Nimbuzz is Java right? the Java engine in 9502 not really stable AFAIK.. But, I'll try to reproduce that problem and tell you the result.. :D

Ah, btw, try this: http://www.efficasoft.com/mobileexpress/index.html

It's free and usefull..

Cheers,

Xenomorph
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Not the embedded VoIP plugin. I have installed it too, and the muting problem doesn't show for me with it. I was referring to the VoIP applications like fring. As I said before, Nimbuzz is one of those applications which doesn't cause this problem on my 9502. It indeed has a Java version, but this one is able to handle chat messages only. It doesn't have any voice capabilities. The cab version for Windows Mobile, on the other hand, does handle voice and chats. But it crashes during voice calls for me...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
Strange... :confused:

I don't have any VoIP installed beside those embedded one...

Maybe I should do HR and reinstall my programs one-by-one and see how its going...

Ah,I'll try to install it and report the result... ^o^

Cheers,

Xenomorph
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
At first I thought it migth be caused by some kind of interaction between fring and HTC Home. So, during one of my tests, I uninstalled HTC Home and kept fring. Then, after some calls through fring, all sounds had simply gone. So, I uninstalled fring and reinstalled HTC Home. No muting issues since then (knock on wood :)).

However, as I had too much garbage on my device, I hard reseted it some days ago. So, I'm not quite sure which application was the real culprit...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Qasmi:
SMS Storage Problem on Ultimate 9502 on official 6.1 ROM

Hi Carlos!

I actually visited the customer service center for Imate and they said the device is fine as well as ROM but the problem is there. I was not satisfied. I then sent a few messages for testing on my Ultimate 9502 and soft reset it, they were again disappered like before. I then sent few more messages and waited for like 5 minutes and then soft reset it then they were there. My question is that is this normal or this is only with my device? SMS which are on device are for less than 4-5 minutes wipes off automatically on soft reset but if you soft reset the device after a delay of like 5 minutes it stays there. Any comments or suggestions?

cheers,

Qasim
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
So, maybe there's a problem with WM6.1 regarding text messages, after all. You see, I have never detected it because I don't remember ever having soft-reseted my device right after having received one or more of them.

Besides, I use PPCPimBackup to backup all my messages on a regular basis...

Anyway, after knowing it behaves like this, we can live with it, don't you think? :)

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Qasmi:
Thanks for the quick reply. Just wanted to make sure that if my device only behaves like this or same problem with all wm6.1 devices. If you could send a sms to yourself and as soon as it recieves sms soft reset your device and see if the sms exists in your inbox or not. It will be a big help for me as I am struggling with this for almost a week now. Thanks for the help.

cheers,

qasim
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Ok, I think I know what is happening! You are probably restarting your device through the reset pin, so that the registry has not had enough time to be flushed. If you did it by software, i.e. through any application which has the capability to reset your device (e.g. pBar, WkTask, etc.), it would care to flush the registry before resetting.

It is not specific to message handling, though. Any modifications you make to the registry and soft reset via the reset pin right afterwards are subject to such a behaviour. It is not properly an error. It's simply the way WM behaves.

However, in case you want to keep using the reset pin (well, sometimes, when our device is completely locked, we have to use the reset pin, anyway), you don't have to wait 5 minutes, though. Something like waiting for 10 seconds and pressing the power button afterwards would probably do to flush the registry...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Qasmi:
Thanks Carlos!!!!

you are right. It works fine now...thanks a million. You solved my problem. Great!!!

I owe you a beer ;)

cheers,

qasim
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Not at all! As I said before, it's not an error. Glad that you have understood !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
VoIP solved...

Hmm.. Now I know what happen to my 9502. It simply the SPB Phone Suite 1.3.1 that caused that notification issue (read that in spb forum). It's somehow incompatible with Spb MobileShell if you install MobileShell first and PhoneSuite later... But if you do it is other way, it just OK... :p

And about Nimbuzz.. I haven't got any issue with it's VoIP system... Works OK, only sometimes it freeze my 9502.. :confused:

Btw, do you know any custom ROM for 9502? I found nothing in Google and XDA Dev forum regarding 9502 custom ROM... Seem that 9502 is unpopular at all... :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
My regional settings are set to pt-br. The first time I installed Nimbuzz I chose english. It often crashed during calls. Then, I uninstalled it and reinstalled, now letting it select my language. No problem ever since...

No, I don't know of any cooked ROMs. Too bad people don't like the 9502. There is not even a thread dedicated to it here. You see, I simply love mine!

However, not having custom ROMs is not properly a disadvantage, as long as the official ROM does its job. It is somehow the case here, don't you think? You see, I remember flashing my late Xda Exec every other week. It was kind of tiring, then... :D

Cheers!

Carlos

EDIT: Now this is odd: after trying the new Skype release, v2.5.0.170 (which is buggy as hell on my 9502, BTW), Nimbuzz started crashing again during calls. Have already uninstalled Skype and reinstalled Nimbuzz. Same behaviour ! S**t !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
No wonder,it's intermittent problem. After stable for one day, it start to mute again after ending call. It's only muted if other party end the call first.

and about VoIP, Skype you mentioned above is also make my 9502 crazy as hell.. :confused:

Now I started to think that this official ROM is the culprit since I don't have same problem with the WM6.1 Beta ROM before... :confused:

How about you? Are your problem regarding VoIP only in this 1.77 ROM or in 1.73 ROM as well?

Nimbuzz still sometimes freezes my 9502...And Skype was OK, but I can't make any call using Skype. wtF? It's supposed to be VoIP program after all.. Tried to use my cousin's Dopod 838pro (was mine), all OK..

Maybe custom ROM is better? I also had Dopod 838pro with Pandora custom ROM, HardSPL by Olipro, now used by my cousin and it really stable.. Gr8 custom ROM, flashed twice (first the WM6.0 then second the 6.1). Never had any issue after that so I never flash any ROM again since.. :D

Hope 9502 can have thread here also... I love my 9502 also... :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Regarding the embedded VoIP feature (after installed Custel's VoIP or any other VoIP cab, of course), it works for me on this ROM, but through WiFi only. I get immediate disconnections if I try to call or receive via 3G, even after installing the GSM6.10 codec. I don't remember installng it on the beta ROM, though. I had not installed Nimbuzz then, either.

About Skype, I have read some threads in Skype fora about the new build being way buggy in other devices, too. So, I think it is not a problem with our present v1.77.

But I'm seriously considering going back to v1.73, mainly due to the camera's picture quality. You see, I remember 3Mpix pictures used to take like 1MB each with that ROM. Now they take some 600KB only. I have the impression that ROM had the "Super Fine" option under "Quality". Now, the maximum quality is "Fine".

On the other hand, for what I remember, v1.77 presents some 10MB more free RAM after a SR than v1.73. Pretty tough decision...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
Hmm.. Never tried to do VoIP by cellular network yet.. Always via WiFi coz it's free.. I'll try that afterthis...

Hmm, maybe bug maybe regarding what device you use.. In my 9502, it doesn't work properly... But in my cousin's Dopod 838pro, it works perfectly... Strange eh?

Btw, I found utility that can extract 9502 ROM and will try to cook custom ROM... I'll attach here...

Now you mention it, yes I remember that 1.73 have "Super Fine" under quality.. Why they remove it... :confused: I searched for possible tweak but no luck... :(

Hmm, as for free RAM, I have same amount of free RAM with 1.73 as well as 1.77... But this muting issue really piss me off... Now I have paranoia when answering call... ::mad:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Crescendo Xenomorph:
Suggestion: move back to 1.73, more stable and less issue (for me)... :D

Do backup using Spb Backup 2, it have cross-ROM restore function.. I've been changing ROM without installing my apps back one-by-one... ;)

I have some photo from 1.73 and compared with photo from 1.77, the quality is far better 1.73 than 1.77...

Trying various method to make D3D work as in Kaiser but no luck.. Lot of HR and still can't make D3D and OpenGL work... :(

My previous A-GPS tweak also not working properly in 1.77...

So, the best option still 1.73.. But, I don't have the link for downloading the 1.73.. Do you have the link? I remember they put it in rapidshare last time...