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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ThatGuy16:
I have always known this, i used the media net on my old palm treo. I'm paying $30 a month now since i got my tilt.

EDIT: this below doesn't seem to work for everyone...

However, for you brave souls. There is a way around it, you can add the $15 plan on their website. (of course if you do this, log in and cancel your current PDA plan)

Do not log in, stay logged out

Go to Shop/Features/View All

Click Media Net Unlimited, "current customers purchase here"

And then follow the steps.

Not many people know about that, you can't add it if your logged in, because it recognizes what phone you have. ;):)

(it may take up to 24 hours to update your account this way,)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] antihrist:
well... i understand that you are talking about internet, but i don't understand if this is unlimited data or you have some limitations (like amount of data, port restrictions,...).

not that this is important to me since i don't live near US or at&t, but i was just wondering because here in croatia we pay:

- 391kn (85$) unlimited data (flat)

- 291kn (63$) 3GB

- 191kn (41$) 1GB

- 91kn (20$) 512MB

so if you pay 15$ for unlimited data i just don't know what to say. not to mention average monthly pay here in croatia being way below 1000$.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jeffla:
It's unlimited (up to 5gb). I have been using it for months now and have had zero problems. People claim that if you exceed 5gb of data usage, AT&T will get suspicious.

Jeff
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hayaticik:
i can't believe you guys pay that much over there. it is for unlimited..about ATT being suspicious if we pass 5gb is not so much what happens. i use so much every month. they don't care about it. there are enough people paying double anyways. if it is unlimited it doesn't matter wich phone u use..plus they wil blame us with what? nothing. so yes i wil pay 15 dollars a month for unlimited internet. ohh i didn't know about buying it without logging in..it is good to know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChInEsE ChIcKeN:
i just called att and updated my plann, they said it would take in effect immediately but i will wait till tomorrow morning to see for sure.

thanks a lot for the tip guys saved a bunch of money on my bill

i use to have $30 unlimited PDA for 2 phone so that means $60 total, now its $15 unlimited internet each, for 2 phone so thats $30 total
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] starclassic:
lol

haha thats great! i dont have a unlimited data plan because of the $30 price. its ridiculous

now i might consider doing this trick to get that $15 plan.

thanks

just hopefully no att representatives are viewing this forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jhr:
they also have a "media max 200" plan which gives you the $15 unlimited data plan plus 200 text messeges for and additional $5. So your total a month would be $20. Have done that after reading a thread back in December time frame. Currently in Peru on Vacation but when i get back in Sept. I will reactivate the media max 200.

also i have tried the internet sharing and no suspicion with ATT. So i love it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] paulthepwner:
Sheesh, that's quite a vacation.

Fwiw, for years i've used media max unlimited (since I had a wizard) and i've never had a problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BillTheCat:
I think AT&T insists on the $30 plan because it's their way of offsetting the cost of the phone. Most customers will obtain the Kaiser from the operator rather than an OEM HTC model. And because AT&T discounts the phone heavily, they have to build in a way to get the phone to a price point that most customers will want to pay. They write it into a contract so that they can recover the expense of the discount they offered you when you bought the phone.

In my case, I had the MEdia Max bundle for my RAZR, so when I got my TyTNII it carried over. But at least one workaround would be to borrow a friend's phone, put your SIM in that phone, go online to change your plan and then put the SIM back into your phone. Many times the phone will identify itself to the network so you don't even have to manually change it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Welcome to about a year ago everyone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] antihrist:
neither i can believe. we have 3 mobile operators here and prices are still outrageous. i guess there is some problem with my country in general, not only operators.

looks like i'm going to keep paying so much for mobile internet for some time...unless i decide to move in US.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nufsaid:
I got up to the part where it asked me for my info, i'm going to try this tonight and update throughout the week, i doubt that this would hold though, but it's worth a shot. It did however prompt me for the $15 data plan instead of the $30 so the future is bright...so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
people have been doing it for awhile now. Nothing new.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jim_R:
Nah, it's simply because PDAs use data connections much much more than non-PDA phones. Just wait until the day after tomorrow when the iPhone 3G starts hitting the streets, I expect quite a bit more of att's 3G bandwidth will be in use.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redbandana:
This has been known for months and discussion of this deal is in many threads.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GreenLantern:
yup, I remember when I first did this on my 8125/wizard... Only thing you might wanna watch for is the IMEI sweeps that I'm sure they don't do intentionally... I've had mine set up for my old 551, but mysteriously it will change in the OLAM to my 8525... and now with my Tilt as well... They've never changed my bill, or sent me a notice, but they know what everyones doing...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] colts21:
I've been doing this for over a year,sorry I shoul have put a thread on here:(

My best friend ownes an at&t store,and he just put in a different IMEI, so I've been paying $15 for the MediaMax for over a year. There's a few more tricks I've learned from him I'll post later 2nite:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redbandana:
just post them now it takes a whole few seconds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hayaticik:
you are right redbandana....common my friend..post it so we can use it too:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Keland44:
yea i'm thinkin about upgrading my 8125 to a tilt and then gettin my wife one might have to get one of those free phones first and then get a tilt and swap out sim cards

i'm currently using the media net 200 plan on my 8125
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] roctavious:
Probably a dumb question . . .

but that's why I'm a newbie. I already have a mediamax plan but only a limited one. If I do this, will I have to renew my contract? I'm up in Sept and really don't want to start over without getting one of the new phones released in the last quarter. I don't have any phones other than my tilt and my bj1 but I can borrow my sister's old Motorola since she just upgraded to a bj2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redbandana:
just switch your sim into her phone and call after hours support and tell them you are using the moto. Also you will not be required to sign a new contract.

here is the number:

1-866-801-3600
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gman8966:
Oh yeah! Just called ATT, switched my IMEI number and enabled media net unlimited. Works just fine on my tilt!

word homey.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fone_fanatic:
as mentioned this is very old news... its been discussed back in the wizard days when the pda data plan was 49.99! i dont buy my phones from AT&T so i was always on the media max for $20 (unlimited data + 1000 txts) but since 3 months or so when they introduced the unlimitted txts for family plans i wanted to change only to data and no txts on my plan but i kinda got caught and now i'm paying the 30 a month. But it doesnt bother me cuz i know pay 20 for unlimitted txts for 4 lines which savedme about 25 a month even with the 30$ data plan.

also beware when using the media max on a pda... theres stories of people being "caught " and charged per kb! i'd recommend disabling the proxy unles your browsing medianet sites such at cingulr video. one last thing... at&t now has set its unlimitted data plans to 5GB max so if you go over 5gb u will be charged per kb!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] chedlin:
Watch out if you purchased from cheap reseller!

I purchased my Tilt from wirefly. $100 after AT&T Mail in rebate and coupon (from rebates I lost in their bankruptcy on my 8525).

There was fine print that if I change my rate plan or data plan that they could charge my card $250 to offset the discount.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gman8966:
Once you get your rebate you can take the data off or change it. I bought mine from newegg.com for $150 and had to have the data plan until my rebate came. about five weeks later it came and took the data off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pmow:
I don't know if anyone else has this issue, but here in Florida I have been getting 2G speeds while in 3G. I used to get 3G speeds ever since I got the old 8525, but as of a while ago no more.

I removed the MediaMax plan I had (39.99 unl data/messages), and added the PDA unlimited plan (49.99, same deal) and got 3G speeds. Anyone else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] <insertwittyusernamehere>:
I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm using my $15 a month internet to post this right now. What I did to get the discounted intenet was chat with a rep. I was not suspicious at all. ;-) the guy probably knew what I was going to do due to my unconvincing lies, but i gave him a razr IMEI so he had to help me. I've been enjoying it 3G speed and all (LA area)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] killaray:
ive been using the $15 plan for about 2 months now... but now i cant use internet wit any apps but mini opera.. anyone else having this problem?? could it be a radio issue or is it that att blocks some ports on the $15 plan?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simmons79:
I did this and it asked for my mobile number and email, did that and they said it is effective in 72 hours, so i thought "yes!!!" But then today i got a text message from cingular saying it was a problem with transaction call 1800.... i am on a family plan so i dont think it will work anymore???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simmons79:
also it doesnt even ask for a IMEI
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ThatGuy16:
not sure, i know i just added this plan to a Treo 680 on our family plan. and it went through just fine doing it that way.. maybe you could go on their website and change your phone from the kaiser to a razr or something.

maybe it wont work for everyone, i liked doing it that way to save time, and lies :p :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] <insertwittyusernamehere>:
yeah same here. that's what i thought would work at first. But, like I said if you talk to a rep you'd be surprised by how far you can get.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pazookie:
yah i flipped out too...last night i discontinued my $19.99 plan (old medianet bundle from 2 years ago that i signed up with under a moto fone) and went online and ordered the $15 one and i got that same text and i called them and they said i couldnt use it and i slightly went off in a mannered way about how ive been using it and the pda plan is for VPN users who use the isp.cingular apn and blah blah and ive been using it for 2 years with 3 pda's and she said her system just wouldnt let her so after i got off the phone a supervisor called me back and gave me the same run around (i tried to have her just put my old plan back on but she couldnt) so i said whatever...

i got my firends imei off his old razrV3 and called them up and swithced my device to that and ordered the $15 plan and hopefully things will be good..hope i dont have to pop my sim in the phone and get a gprs connection to register it on the network..

itl look kind of suspicious thought but im sure they dont waste their time checking..its funny too because she said "im suprised you lasted so long...we usually do sweeps quite often to see if devices are on improper plans...i got told the same thing a year ago when i tried to get the medianetbundle with text lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] redbandana:
maybe you should of read the whole thread before you called or canceled your previous plan. Your sim card cannot be in your Tilt when you call **** like this and getting angry at representatives will ruin it for everyone. Just get your friends phone put your sim card in and call them. No need to change IMEI just say you want the data plan with you razr. Its simple.

This Thread Should Be Closed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pazookie:
calm down dude..in the first page it SUGGESTS to cancel you plan before adding one on so you arent stuck with 2 bills..and how am i going to ruin it for everyone??lol and i did read the whole thread its pretty much the same thing over and over..."blah blah this is old news blah blah" "blah blah you must be logged out blah blah" "blah blah i got the txt the next day blah blah"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pazookie:
oh and they cannot read your imei over the phone..they only know what imei is registered either by registering it yourself (like i did with that razr) or using a device long enough where it assumes and registers it (like a new phone on a new plan)..i never registered my tilt when i had an old moto with that mediaplan and it transferred over to my cingular 2125 smartphone and then i got a cingular 8525 and then a tilt and each time each registerred itself...heck they can never detect my number over the phone when i call the service center..my number is the added line on our family plan and if their system was as it should it should detect the added line as my phone number calling in but i dont think so i always have to enter it in...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ThatGuy16:
I just suggested what worked for me in the past, it may not work for some people. It doesn't "hurt" to try, i guess....

The sure way to get it done, is by phone... ;)

I just think thirty bucks is ridiculous, who doesn't though?...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pmow:
Their backend system detects your IMEI. This is different than the phone you have in your profile on the extranet...they use this to generate your allowed plans. That's what the rep told me at the store, and that's why I can't downgrade anymore without physically attaching a RAZR to the sim.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gman8966:
Exactly, if you are nice and just tell them you want it on your flip phone, they won't tell you no. I told the lady a friend gave me his razr and I will be using that now.

$30 is ridiculous for data, especially crappy edge where I live. If they won't let you then so be it, they just won't make that extra $15.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NY_HAMMER:
Can somebody check

I was told today that mediaNet is identified on ATT backbone by the switch and =some limitations kick in, in other words the speed is slower.

Can somebody check tif it's true?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] amkaos:
an att tech here said thats bogus--its all the same..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KentM:
I've been paying $15 for MEdia NET Unlimited since reading this thread and signing up for it on the website without logging in. Most of the time I'm connected to HSDPA and have no problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
I did it for 2 years with my treo650 and since october with my preciouses
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] maiahsdad:
I don't know if it's just MY area, but my DATA plan for my Tilt with AT&T is the Personal PDA plan that costs me $35.00 per month! How in the HELL is someone getting unlimited DATA for $15.00 per month. I WANT THAT PLAN!!! ANY help is appreciated! I'm thinking that I may have to DUMP the data plan, but I NEED it for my GPS. Thanks for any help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pmow:
As I mentioned, I was connected to HSDPA but still got crap speeds when on MediaNET. After upgrading to the PDA plan, speeds increased.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
im that tech, there is no diffrence in speeds, get media net unlim 15.00 month and smile. if anyone asks how to do it. everyone is going to tell you to search.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] maiahsdad:
I've searched HOW to get it unlimited for $15 per month and I'm not finding out how. And I don't understand why, if I can't find it, no one would be helpful and let me know....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
Put your sim in a non pda phone, call customer care 800-331-0500 and tell them you want to drop pda plan and just add media net unlimited, then when you hang up put your sim back in the pda and have fun.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gman8966:
Because there are 5 pages before this post that tells various ways how to do it, that's why no one said how to do it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] maiahsdad:
I've seen unsuccessful ways of how to NOT do it, hence my question. But thanks for your candor.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MrEous:
I don't know, maybe I got lucky with my rep.

When I called to set up my Tilt plan she suggested I use MediaNet Unlimited for $15.

I originally asked for the Blackberry Connect to be added (lol) but she said since it wasn't a smartphone that I couldn't.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PJBHermes:
This is my tale:

I had a Nokia 6085, bought a TyTn/Kaiser, took the Sim card from the 6085 and used it in the Kaiser.

I read the AT&T/HTC forums and their warnings about using the wrong plan and ordered the $30 Personal data plan.

After a month, felt it was ridiculous to pay $30 for internet usage on a PDA, I went to cingular.com and tried to change the plan and couldn't.

I placed the Sim Card back back in the 6085 and called customer service. They said the IMEI associated with my account does not allow the $15.00 MediaNet plan. I told them I didn't like the PDA phone and went back to the 6085.

The CSR said to give him the IMEI from the 6085, however to find the IMEI, I would have to hangup and have him call me on an alternate number. He called me on my house phone, took me through a couple of menu options on the 6085, it displayed the IMEI, he registered the IMEI.

AFter the 6085 IMEI change/registration, he was able to remove the PDA plan and add the $15.00 MediaNet plan. It took 3-5 minutes max.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pinetreehater:
I am not sure about all this...I read the first post a couple of weeks ago and decided I wanted unlimited internet for $15 too. I have a tilt, and when I went to the web page it let me add the 15 dollar plan. No swapping sim cards or anything. My best friend did it too, the same way.

I have been using the $15 plan for weeks, and haven't gotten any messages saying "bad boy." I just logged onto AT&T and my bill is what it should be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gman8966:
Wow, word for word, that was exactly what I did. Well done writing that up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simmons79:
I did the same with an old moto phone. Dumb question guys but if Im on 3G while surfing it is detectable since most old phones dont have it??? I assume it doesnt matter but just wondering???? Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] spbluffmaster:
works for me: $15 Unlimited Internet

This is what i have done:

I took my friend's phone and use it for like a day or two, then i called Att to get MediaNet for Nokia N75. They told me to turn the phone off and on again to verify the phone and since 5 months i have been using Unlimited Internet. Love the Tilt.

Try this, i hope it works for YOU.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cesar2010:
Family Plan

Ok question, i"m in a family plan with 4 phones, one of them i just acquired a tilt. If i go to features and on the At&t account i have 2 options Media max unlimited($30) or media net unlimited ($15) whats the difference and if so can i just get the $15 one and be able to use my tilt and unlimited internet access? Also when i put the sim card on the tilt how do i register the network settings such as password and user name and domain?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] maiahsdad:
Well, just did the deal! Got my two V180's out, called ATT, and ended up WAY cheaper. Got on a FAMILY messaging plan for $30 per month for both of us, and just added the $15 per month for my UNLIMITED data. The rep confirmed that it IS unlimited. She says the 5GB refers to the aircards for laptops.

We'll see how it turnes out.

If you do this, MAKE SURE you use the Media Net settings on your TILT because the MY ISP per the rep will use PDA settings. Don't know how much TRUTH is in it, but JUST IN CASE... choose Media Net, wap.cingular, and ALL other settings should be left Blank!

Cheers!

PS: I just READ the IMEI numbers off the box on the phones and "pretended" to turn the phones on. The rep said, "And YES sir, I see your phones and we've updated the information." Well, I don't see HOW they could when I don't even know where the chargers are to those older phones. So, they're posturing!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gwtx2:
I pay $25.50

I pay $25.50/mo for unlimited PDA Connect, which is 15% off the $30 price. In fact, every service I get from them is 15% off. The place where I work has some agreement with at&t which allows employees a percent discount.

Your company may offer the same. Try here http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jrdejavux:
how about if they check your Imei number ? i thought the carrier could tell what phone model you were using my checking the imei in their network ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gimini:
this is definatly true... i work at an att call center... the system will flag it if u try to do this with a imei however tell them u got a new phone u found in ur drawer and tell them u broke ur tilt and wanna use the other phone.. give them an imei of 1102xxxxxxx make up the x's this will flag the system with a unknown device enabling u to put the mediamax for 35.00 or the media net unlimited for 15.00 the 35 has unlimited txt the 15 does not...u can also do this with the iphone 3g or better yet not even have to have internet on it at all
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gimini:
we could check ur imei off your phone but its never done. they dont even teach us how to do it even in tier2. i did play round and figure out how to send a sms to check the real imei but like i said this wont be done and even if by some freak chance someone would there is no contractual agreement like with the iphon that u must have internet...they can not force u to bump up to the pda version and they cannot remove it. our hands are tied....we coul ask u to changeit but cant make u....

also there is no difference between the packages...the reason pda's are charged more is that u have an easier time tethering ur device over a non pda phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] simbadogg:
sorry to bring another topic back from the death..but has anyone tried this recently. i have to do a warranty exchange this weekend, and once i get the new phone, i'm gonna try switching back to an old POS nokia that i have.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Christian87n:
I'm actually going to give it a chance later on this week. AT&T has a new plan which is called Messaging & Data Unlimited. It is basically that, unlimited messaging and data for 30 bucks. Right now im paying 30 for pda and 20 for unlimited text minus my company discount. By "downgrading" i'll basically be saving 15-20 bucks. It'll add up. I'll give a heads up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ChumleyEX:
Sounds like an awesome idea.