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[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] BETA.:
I am returning mine because mainly because I cannot justify the difference between the 128 GB of the Ultra vs the S20+. The main difference between the two are the battery and camera. For me, the Ultra is simply TOO BIG, it's taller, wider and substantially heavier than what I am used to - coming from the S10+. S20+ is the ideal fit, especially since I really do not care for the camera specs honestly.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Zargon335:
I got mine yesterday and have been testing the camera against my Pixel 3XL. I was hoping for a similar experience as the Pixel, but so far the results have been wildly inconsistent. Some of the photos are marginally better than the Pixel, but many are much worse, especially when it comes to white balance in low light and extremely over done color saturation in others.

Similar to OP, I love the screen, processor and battery. It's a shame the camera is dragging it down for me. I'll probably take a look at it again in a few months and see if any updates have made significant improvements to the camera.

Oh, I also tried out one of the GCam ports and saw little to no improvement over the stock camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] SyCoREAPER:
My only gripe which I can agree with you on is the camera's autofocus. There is a firmware update inbound which is supposed to fix this. This should not be a launch issue.

As for the UI, I disagree. I think it's perfectly responsive. It may be the update to 2.1 for you. I've only ever had 2.x on my Samsung devices so I can't comment from that respect.

Those are of course your impressions and opinion and as such I'm not saying your wrong just that it's not that way in my point of view.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] cpufrost:
In the past I've returned things less than a day of ownership because of burning issues. I've learned, however, to use the 15 days they provide. It's not like a pro rated fee or rental where there's a fiscal benefit to a quick return. Slow down, use it for those two weeks. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Exactly, I buy/try every one when it is brand new and this one just disappointed me overall. Note 20 better have under display camera and a better fingerprint sensor in display. Or just go back to old style

Yup not worth it! Ultra is actually narrower then note 10 plus believe it or not. I don't mind the bulk just nothing to gain from it

Yeah the pixel is always a beast in the camera dept. The night mode on the ultra seemed too bright like I still want my night shots to look dark just with detail if that makes sense

So the UI like messages and you hit reply and then send and it kinda sticks there. On old one ui it was instant. You would have to have both side by side honestly to be able to tell like I did. I replied to a few facebook messages on ultra and was like that felt odd. Then did on note and was like wow it is faster

Nope already gone. Boxed up by 8 am and ready to roll. I will spend my money elsewhere ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Jomari29:
I upgraded from the S9+ and the camera from the S10+ blew me away, hence why I got the S20 Ultra, also 2 year cycle
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
But did the ultra camera blow you away like going from S9 to S10?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Jomari29:
Tbh no, I get what you mean, I didn't have the same feel like how it was upgrading from s7 to s9,
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] catnapped:
But how long are you going to wait for a patch that "maybe" fixes things? 14 days = maybe if we're lucky one software update.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Yeah exactly. Honestly I don't tell a big difference anymore when you upgrade to every flagship but from s10+ to note 10+ it felt like an improvement and gained some things. Now it feels like I am losing more things then I am gaining from note 10+ to Ultra
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Exactly, mine is gone already. Not playing that waiting game. My note 10+ on android pie is butter to me right now and will be sticking around for at least a few more months until Ultra is fixed or new note is out
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] deathshead:
People are whining about the price when the iphone 11 pro is $1449 and nobody bats an eye.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] cpufrost:
11 Pro Max 512GB is $1449.

512GB Ultra is $1599.

Both are very expensive!

IMHO, for the price of $1599 there should be a slim case in the box, 45W charger, 1TB storage and ceramic back! I get it, 5G is adding to the cost and for a lot of us is like paying for tits on a bull!

Wait until the iPhone 12 with 5G comes out. Figure on adding $200-300 EXTRA.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
That is not 5G though, wait until this year. Bet it is $1400+ for the base

I agree. Ceramic is needed at this price point and a 1tb option for sure!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Swimguy14:
I got my ultra two days ago and have to say i am very disappointed in the camera system. With how much physical size it takes up you'd think it was going to be something of quality, but largely it is not. The autofocus issues are not being overstated - sitting at my computer desk it refuses to focus on the keyboard three feet in front of me. My s10+ on the other hand has no issues getting focus rapidly.

The screen is amazing but I am underwhelmed by the 120hz. The way people talk about it, you'd think it was the best thing since sliced bread. While it is noticable during very slow scrolling, normal scrolling looks basically the same as on my s10. The one noticeable difference is with the responsiveness to touch which i gather is from the 240 sampling rate.

The fingerprint scanner is identical in performance to s10.

The increased weight and size of the phone actually helps it to feel more premium and it's not difficult to handle. The screen is considerably more narrow than note 10+ which I do like - the wide-ness of the n10+ was cumbersome.

I love how the screen edges are nearly flat, gives it more usable space.

I have already contacted samsung and made it clear that if an update isn't imminent that fixes the camera performance, I will have no choice but to return..it just doesn't make sense to trade in my still-perfect s10+ and spend nearly $900 on an unfinished product...which is how the ultra feels at this point.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] catnapped:
Mmmhmm, goes in and out of focus. Even if you tap to focus you have to practically do a shot right then or it's back to in and out again.

And I just did a 108MP photo of my cat in so-so light. Not really impressed. The only thing decent I'll say is the 5x & 10x zoom. Doesn't make up for the other issues though.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Agreed on all points except I prefer the wider note 10+ screen but yes everything else is spot on
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
exactly is that worth $800-1400 over your current device?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] cpufrost:
The wait is the same regardless. Of course 15 days goes by so much faster when you have it vs. when you're waiting for it! Relativity...

In any case I've heard that there is no pro mode support with 108MP native. That's nuts and needs to be fixed. 108MP @50 ISO in sunlight would be amazing (coming from a phone)...

There's other things too. When I first got my S10 5G I was just blown away at how much better it was compared to the S10+. Going from the S10 5G to the Note 10+ not so much. Have to wonder how much the S20U will be of a sidegrade vs. upgrade. I don't use the S pen much EXCEPT as a remote control for the camera.

Now if the Note 20 actually had a full display and put the selfie cam in the S-Pen. I don't care if it cost $2k I'm buying it!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Note 20 with under screen camera, bottom half of phone would be in screen fingerprint would be great
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] cpufrost:
Camera beneath display is still a ways out AND it's going to have to be REALLY good because people are spoiled by today's selfie cameras. I don't care for the FP sensor in the glass. Either the power button, get rid of it completely, and use another form.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
I love how everyone hates the auto focus and thinks the camera is crap, but then demand underscreen camera for the Note 20. An underscreen camera is going to be crap plain and simple, all the current demos are potato cameras, another 6 months won't change that.

Yes there are auto focus issues, there will always be some it uses an older auto focus system.

I like the screen, size and refresh rate/ touch refresh is amazing, the flat screen is much better than the curved screen.

So far I'm happy coming from a Note 10+ 5G (verizon). Some of that might be because I'm not on a phone with Verizon software anymore. We'll see how i like the camera output this weekend. If I'm still happy, I'll keep it, if not ill go back to the Note 10 and try something else later. I doubt I'll get $700 for my Note 10 though and a 7.5% discount and 10% cash back from anything else though.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] t2jbird:
There's always one
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sunmybun:
feels like a clickbait thread.

why dont you guys just post in the real reviews section
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] duckfart:
I received my phone yesterday and also got a 450 mb update last night.

I am not having issues with auto focus; tried all the close ups and far people were mentioning in this thread.

I am coming from S10 +.

Do you guys have the same version software as this one.?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Paul_Deemer:
Woot! One more Ultra back in the pipeline! :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] dlads:
[MENTION=5297338]oneandroidnut[/MENTION]

Did you have reservations before you commited to getting the phone?

As in negative from the start, or did you have high hopes?

I haven't seen the device yet but I think this will be supported well.

At least I hope so. It's expensive lol, I could buy a second hand car for less :D

Going to do a camera comparison with my p20 pro, performance and emulation tests.

I'm not optimistic about the Mali 77. Not at all

PS: anyone bashing this guy, he may have given us valuable info, let him have his opinion.

Time will tell if the device is not worth the asking price
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
I wouldn't mind fingerprint back on back of phone. Don't know why they can't do an in glass sensor under glass on back like under screen [emoji2369] That would be perfect.

You went unlocked I assume? I always do lol

Yeah I had an update as well. Try to take a photo/scan a document from let's say 6 inches away, good luck

I pre-ordered on day 1 and played with one in bestbuy a few days later. Device prices will fall worse then s10. Mark my words.

They can bash me all they want. It isn't their money and idc. If somebody gave me an s20 ultra right now for free I would continue to use my note [emoji2369]
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
There is a section for that lol I would have put it there if I knew that
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
Yes, I normally do, but I wanted the Note 10+ in aura how and no one had it available on release day for me. So I ended up getting a Verizon 5G model to get the cold lol.

On the camera, I just scanned 5 monopoly tickets from the grocery store, was easier to get them to scan (basically if takes a pictures of the bar code and gives points for rewards) than my note 10, it seemed to grab the picture/ bar code faster. Anecdotal but it's a data point.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Ahhh yeah I remember the 5g ones were hard to get from Samsung at the start. And you ever try 5g out on it??

Interesting the focus was hot garbage for me
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
I didn't even want the 5G (live in a medium sized city so, won't get mmWave for a while) but wanted the color and missed the early pre-order.

Focus wasn't great when I was taking regular pictures, but somehow was great with the monopoly shopping app.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] ogrekane313:
well ill get mine tomorrow test it for the 2 weeks get my pre order galaxy buds and 45 watt charger with 200 samsung credit. and by 14 days im not hapoy ill return for 20+. im coming from s9+ 64gb so all around a boost.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sunmybun:
ya, theres a section to post real life reviews.

i understand this section is for discussion but this thread is essentially your review and then discussion about your review lol
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Guess it fits in both lol
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] le0.br4zuc4:
I upgraded from a S10+ and if there isn't an update dramatically improving the camera, I will return this phone too.

I love everything else. Love the size. Love the thickness. Love the weight. Hopefully Samsung can make a miracle and get this camera working right
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
I think if they don't make right within two weeks they will have a lot more returns
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] le0.br4zuc4:
Agreed
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] buddy66:
Samsung needs to fix the camera before the 13th of March because of the global market launch and we all get to experience those issues because reviewers and customers with pre-orders have gotten a pre-market release. Sure it would be nice to get all up and running from day one but Samsung is not a company that will abandon such flaws. I can understand the frustration but there was never a huge jump in overall effectiveness of the S phones since S8 or even S7. I always skipped from the 5 to 7, then 9 and now S20 because the upgrade wasn`t enough so I totally dont get people who complain about to less improvement over S10 ot Note10. I actually appreciate this because we can all stay on a 2 or even 3 year cycle, enjoy our phones and not be to much envious about the next model.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] shollywood:
Microsoft store offers 30 day returns for those wanting to try it out and see if they fix the bugs....
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Just return it lol
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] VZTech:
Agreed. Shame Samsung screwed up the camera. Everything else is great.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Yup, nothing jumps out over Note 10+ just throwing numbers out there with 8k, 108 mp, 100x zoom, 5000 mah, 120hz etc etc and nothing is really much better and in some cases worse then note!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] felloffthetruck:
And it's the same crappy fingerprint scanner that's in the S10+ and Note 10+ :(
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Yeah I don't get that. I mean it's an ok sensor, not an ok sensor that can be used for 3 generations on a $1400+ device. Should have been improved imo
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
I really like this Lamborghini, everything is great but, you know, the gas milage sucks.

A) the sensor isn't Samsung's to upgrade, the hardware is made by another manufacturer.

B) There is a better sensor but my guess is it either wouldn't fit (its larger) or they aren't able to produce enough yet for Samsung.

C) It's only two generations, S and Note series are not generational differences, they share nearly everything.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] VZTech:
That would be like everything on the phone is great, including the camera, but the battery life sucks. That I would actually be more willing to tolerate.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
It was pointing out you like everything but one thing, so yes your statement is correct but ignored your own complaints.

I like this house, but the color is ugly.

I like this park, but the bench is uncomfortable.

I like this watch, everything is perfect, except I don't like the brand name.

These shoes are perfect, but the tread is shaped in a way I dislike.

Everything is a compromise, you'll never find the "perfect" anything. If the camera isn't good enough to allow you to enjoy what you claim is an otherwise perfect phone, then return the phone. Some of us will enjoy the phone even if the camera is slow to focus.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] BarryH_GEG:
It takes me forever to set up my phone (I have 238 apps) and after three days it's where I want it. It's a really solid device - it's fast, the display is big and gorgeous, it connects well to the things I connect to (Android Auto, Galaxy Watch Active2, Samsung Flow on multiple PCs, Calls and Texts on Other Devices, DeX for Windows, SmartThings), and battery life at 120Hz has been good. Note on the latter. It takes more than three days, especially when your making constant setting changes, to truly judge battery life. I'd suggest installing Galaxy Labs as it has two apps that monitor and optimize battery usage and the optimizer is more effective than the built-in tool.

Prior to the Ultra I had a Galaxy Fold and before that a Note 10+ so in judging size I'm used to big phones. I have a OEM Clear Case and Leather Case ordered from the UK (they are cheaper there) and bought a LED Cover from Best Buy in the mean time so the phone's not naked. In it the back is flush with the camera bump as I'm guessing the other OEM cases will be too. That takes away one of the biggest aesthetic complaints - the camera bulge. It's really comfortable to hold in the LED Cover which is matte vs. glossy this year. I got the phone in black so in a black case it is monochromatic and, dare I say, the giant camera sensor looks impressive in a my camera sensor is bigger than yours kind of way vs. seeming unsightly.

I haven't played with the camera a lot but used it for some tricky shots like close ups of checks for online deposit and uploading credit cards to Samsung Pay. The auto focus worked as well or better than my past two phones. I'm a productivity user so the camera's about 10% of what I do. Knowing a camera update is coming I'm not going to really play with it until the update's released.

Let's talk price. $1,000+ flagships are now officially a thing. When the S-series was $800 One Plus was $300. Now the OnePlus 7T is $600 and the Ultra is $1,400. Pricing and value are relative and subjective. I'm happy with what I received vs. what I paid for the Ultra. If some aren't that's swell and the S20+ is cheaper as are some really good high-end non-Samsung phones. So rather than grouse up the Ultra's price vote with your wallet and buy an alternative. And don't assume everyone's measurement of value is the same as yours. Same thing with the importance of individual features up to and including the camera.

To each their own. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Samsung chose the camera, they weren't just given it they had to purchase it and make it work.

As to your Lamborghini comment, it is more like this is my opinion,

I really like this Lamborghini, it has a ton of horsepower, it looks great but it is slow to drive and can't turn left.

Phone is a bust unless a miracle update comes and fixes the camera and other issue which I have pointed out
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Glad you like it man! No doubt that a lot of people will like this phone, not saying it is a bad phone just has some issues and don't see it as a worthy upgrade over my note. Especially with all the issues and hoping an update fixes them and I lose my S-pen. Surprised you don't need a pen honestly for your productivity!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] mopartonyg:
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, if you really hate this phone please send it back and quit posting or disagreeing with everyone else. Others opinions matter just as much as yours, whether you agree or not. Its been over 24hrs, have you sent it back yet?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
Except, the camera works, just not to your liking. It would be closer (using your analogy) that the car doesn't turn left as fast as you'd like.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] BarryH_GEG:
I have a EU Tab S6 LTE. I had a Note 10+ and trying to write on a tall, narrow, curved display was an exercise in frustration.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
But it doesn't work. Autofocus is a nightmare, can't focus close up, besides zoom it is no better then last two generations. And if I paid full money I want it to do everything. S10, Note 10+ I bought and immediately didn't have any sort of issues. S20 ultra completely different story. I'd rather use a pixel 4 xl over the s20 ultra right now and that's saying a lot
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Maybe we will get a flatter screen on the new note. I like the curves of the current note though. Almost seem to be in the minority as well on that lol
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
Oh? So you can't take pictures at all? Funny, mine takes pictures.

My zoom is much better, 4x-10x is great, up to 30X is functional, 100x is fun.

Your choice in what you want to use is your choice, I am not trying to say you should love the phone, only that your experience isn't the end all be all of everyone's experience.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
Boy you must have zero comprehension skills. I said the ultra camera is no better hence not worth the upgrade over my current note. Sure 10-30x zoom is a little sharper and 100x zoom is a straight hot mess. $800 plus getting rid of my note and I have a hair sharper zoom at 10-30x range and that's it? You must have a lot more money then the rest of us but I'll keep my $800
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
I'd argue that you contradict yourself in your paragraph but I'm done.

Enjoy whatever phone you like.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] oneandroidnut:
haha of course you are because you CANNOT READ WHAT I AM TYPING? It is 2020 dude if you can't create a $1400 with a working camera that is better in every way then the last 2 generations then you need to reevaluate the company. Also if you can tell a difference in s10/note10/s20 ultra wide, main and non zoom photos then you are crazy. Every reviewer and myself say the camera is meh except for the zoom. But I contradict myself ok buddy run along iphone user
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] _Dennis_:
Cool, no better than the S10...... but the zoom is better...... but 100x sticks......

Go back to insulting me though, since you can't actually argue your point coherently.

Need to figure out how to ignore the trolls on XDA, been here for years and this is the first time I have wanted an ignore feature.

Edit: figured it out, need to go through the website not the app.