yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
That zImage does INDEED put the keyboard in the right place dzo! Thank you!

The alignment is still a bit off... but from what I've seen its off on the Vogue too.

I tried tracing the GPIOS with HaRET a month or so ago and didn't get anywhere. Lots of the keys weren't even producing GPIO output for some reason. Maybe HaRET was being a punk. I might try to trace them out again.

Either way, MAD props getting the SD driver working!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
great work! the new zimage loads fine on my 6gb sdhc card.

the touch screen seems off calibration as it does not seem to register the touch position very accurately is this possibly a difference due to different hardware than the vogue?

i notice while in the brfowser the keyboard can be used to cycle through links using the left shift and the keyboard ok keys.

my onscrfeen keyboard does not seem to pop up by the camera key but i will try again

you have peaked my curiosity so if i wanted to take a stab at monkeying with this what resources can i use to learn more?

edit: i restarted phone and relaunched android0 this time keyboard works well (slight issue with the del key offset but minor) web browsing works well but i cannot find any other controls like a back button or address bar is there a way to get these from the touch screen?

also what is the purpose of the slide down shade you can pull from the top status bar?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
There is no address bar or navigation buttons in the browser right now... remember, its an early development prototype and not meant to be used fulltime on ANY device yet.

As for the top slide bar, I was curious about that too... then I got an SMS. The SMS scrolled across the top and then when I slid the bar down, it listed my SMS as a "recent event" - pretty cool IMO.

Also dzo, you appear to have fixed the end button. I can actually end calls now while previously I could not do so. It also appears to work much better to get out of apps too.

Curious though, it seems to just freeze up after awhile. Is that same activity on the Touch too?

The new zImage also boots one out of every two tries. One out of every two tries, the Cylon eye just sits there indefinitely and I can tell that its messing up because the eye will stop moving say halfway through the screen and start on the left again. I wasn't noticing this activity with the old zImage.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
no problem on it being full featured as i was just curious if something existed but i could not find it

i was trying to hold my touch on the world icon hoping it would open a menu sort of how if you tap and hold on the page you get the zoom slider

there actually does appear to be an address bar it popped up while i was banging on the keyboard all i could get was 1 character and it was showing me what looked to be sites in my history that may match

browsing seems smooth even smoother than opera 9.5

i just had the sms shade too looks like maybe its a central notification window?

the on screen keyboard touch zones seem shifted a bit i have to touch more to the left of the intended key when trying to use the right most keys

is there a command window perhaps?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
You got an address bar?

Hmm... I'll have to play with it some more. It keeps randomly freezing on my device so I can't use it for more than a few minutes at a time... Is it doing the same to you?

And yes, for most sites, the browser is faster than Opera 9.5... but try loading Gizmodo on it. Talk about f'ing OUCH man!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dzo:
To calibrate the kbd keep the cam button pressed (with kdb showing) and touch opposite corners of the screen. Use the pointer location app to test.

More fun can be had by getting your ip from somewhere like whatismyip.com and then you should be able to telnet to your phone. (get latest initrd.gz from http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd.gz first), username is root, password is vogue.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] scrawnyb:
is there any chance for Wi-Fi connectivity in the near future, especially for those of us without a data plan?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] used2hvatreo:
idk if it helps, but when you are in a call, the only buttons that seem to work are the shift and windows key, and they both seem to activate the "speaker" option on the screen. if you want to give me a quick run through on the gpios mapping procedure, I would love to be of some help to this effort
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
dzo, any word as to why the phone freezes after a bit? It does it in the browser more than anything but ive had it freeze up in the phone app and various menus too.

Thanks for the tip about calibration. I will try it. :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
treo, I actually can end calls using the end call button with the new zImage dzo posted. It works consistently now, at least for me.

The GPIO stuff, you will need to look up the HaRET wiki. Basically, you will have to get your IP address from whatismyip.com, choose the listen option in HaRET, then connect with your PC using the HaRET debugger tools... its a rather complicated and involved process unfortunately because you get "spammers" (GPIOS that have to be ignored because they appear without you pressing buttons) and some buttons just didnt seem to elicit a GPIO response at all. Im inclined to agree with dzo... we should build an image off of the Kaiser's buttons and go from there.

dzo, the alignment worked perfectly, thanks for that.

Im on my phone right now or I would go look it up myself but what exactly should I put into default.txt to get a connection to Sprint? I think the freezes are partially related to my data connection being active when I launch Android because I was just using it for a few minutes and it didnt freeze until I tried getting into the XMPP development tools, then it locked up and I had to soft reset to fix it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dzo:
I don't know why it freezes for you, it runs fine for days on vogue (with data staying up too). It's probably something different about the cpld.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
Eth,

To get the address bar in the browser:

1- Open the browser

2 - hit your cam button to bring up OSK (on screen keyboard)

3 - Hit Space or just start typing :)

I'm curious where the "history" already in the browser is coming from. It already knew http://xdaforums.com :) Either Google has developed ESP to read my my mind, or it's just the cache from when DZO was playing with the image before he made it public :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kyxdadeveloper:
SDHC is working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

using the new zimage file provided by DZO (you rule btw) I am now able to boot completely into Android and KB is very close to completion in response to stylus use. :-)

Going to try now with the new init.gz file.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kyxdadeveloper:
how do I get data and wifi connection to work?

???????????????

when I click listen for network connection it just spins (forever).

when I start data connection and then start Haret then it sayd error opening port.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
Thanks for that!

Is the device randomly freezing for you too or is it just me? It freezes in the browser more than anything else.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
Yes, mine does lock up in the browser alot.

I turned on the CPU meter, and see CPU activity even when it freezes up, so I think it's just the browser app locking up.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
Mine freezes on other apps too. There's no rhyme or reason to it. Like the other day, it froze when I was bringing up the dialer too.

There's something funky going on with it somewhere down the line.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kyxdadeveloper:
Devs visit this link. May be extremely good info.

http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/linux/kernel/Documentation/axim.txt
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kyxdadeveloper:
:-)

Bump..........
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kmartburrito:
I'm liking it so far!!!

If we can figure out the random freezes, and get our buttons mapped correctly, we may be on to something!

It seems like my screen will be calibrated, and then it will think the screen is smaller all of a sudden. I'll open the on screen keyboard and have to tap a half inch or so above it to get that key to work...this seems to only happen though when it's freezing in an app

Also, I just had it work really well for about 20 minutes before freezing...kinda nice.

Do we know if performance will be a lot better for a 2gb card or sdhc rather than the 512 that came with the titan?

also, it doesn't seem like my data is working...what did everyone do to get it working?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ryotgz:
Has anyone messed with Google Talk?

I signed into google talk on the phone (dev tools, XMPP Settings). I got a friend to send me a message and I saw the message appear on the screen and put a Speech Bubble in the top bar. I can slide the bar down and see the new message window. But unable (or can't figure out) how to open the message and respond.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drew826:
I think I read on a different site somewhere that you need to have an initiated data connection before starting Android, and then it should work. The data connection seems to work for me on Sprint. I've never checked to see if the data connection was active before I started Android, but it probably was because I have my Titan set to check email every 15 mins or so.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drew826:
Freezing Issue

I'm wondering if the freezing of Android might be caused by running out of RAM. Next time I telnet to my phone when Android's running, I'll see if I can get some useful system info without it segfaulting (I ran an "ls -l" from the command line, and it segfaulted; "ls" worked fine though). Maybe the system has a working build of "top" included; if not, I assume it makes /proc stats available (eg, meminfo).

I usually have about 20MB free before starting Android. Has anyone tried this on one of the REALLY stripped down kitchens/roms that starts with like 25-30MB free to see if it seems to work longer?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kmartburrito:
AH, you're right, now that you mention it I remember seeing that somewhere too. Thanks!

I wish we could explain the freezing though...that's the only thing keeping me from going further with it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kmartburrito:
I'm on DCD's newest rom which has around 25MB free, and it freezes either fairly quickly, or it will run for a while and then freeze...

What's the proper way to close an android app? it seems like the only way to get out is to hit your end key. If you do that to enough stuff, then I can see your point about possibly running out of RAM.

Makes sense too, since the Titan has less RAM than the Vogue.

Here's the Android thread in the Kaiser forum. Since our phone more closely matches the Kaiser than the Vogue, can we use any of this stuff? I think the part about the zImage is cool, I definitely learned something. What do you all think?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396782
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
I don't think the freezing is due to it running out of RAM at all. If you even just leave it sitting for a few minutes, it will freeze when you try to open something.

Mine now won't even load any apps anymore before freezing so I think I'm going to have to dump everything and start over with a fresh copy.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kmartburrito:
You know, I think you're right...I've tried it with 25mb free several times, and once it ran for about 20 minutes before freezing, and another time it froze within 1 minute, in the dev tools...it's gotta be something else.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] drew826:
I didn't see anything useful in either, but I saved the output from dmesg and the content from /tmp/eventlog if anyone developing wants to look over them. The dmesg ouput is mostly touchscreen calibration entries.

I also kept an eye on free memory from /proc/meminfo. I wasn't doing much with the phone (didn't even have the browser open), and I didn't see the amount of memory change very much.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
so I don't know what all changes dzo made but the new Android zip he posted works awesomely.

Its actually stable enough to where my device doesn't freeze after just a couple minutes and now that I know how to get the menus up in the browser, its actually functional for what I need.

I've been sending text messages and browsing and its been working great.

The only thing that I wish we could fix is getting the screen (not just the onscreen keyboard) aligned so that if you drag in the center, it moves like its in the center, instead of acting like you're too far to the left. I have learned to put my stylus about 1/4" to the right of the center of the screen in order to avoid the page jumping around.

Anyone know what the browser engine is? With the speed and rendering, I'd almost say its Safari WebKit...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] johnw230873:
Just wondering what I am doing wrong. Download the lastest version upzip it and copied it all to my sd card. When I run it I get

please wait: extracting System Image

gzip can't open //sdcard/system: file exists

failed

failed to extract System Image

/bin/sch can't access tty; job control off

all the fiels seem to be there including the system, s unsure what the problem is
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] johnw230873:
formatted SDCard and it came right
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] snowman8:
More stable operation

I've found that if you got to Dev Tools -> Development Settings, and set the max applications to 1, it will remain stable for perhaps as long as I'd like (no crashes since the change)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] snowman8:
Where did you initially get your install files from? I have android working fairly well on my titan. I used the cab installer from myhtcphone.com, downloaded the "sd saving enabled" version, and installed it to my sd card. After that, I replaced the zImage with the one provided by dzo a few pages back. Here is the link if you're too lazy to find it:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jerason:
It appears that someone has difficulty spelling.

I DL'd the cab from myhtcphone.com and installed it. The reason it might not open is due to the shortcut placed in the start menu. It points to \Srorage Card. If you open the android.lnk and correct the path it works fine.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] legacydevice:
New SDK is out with a much more functional build of android!

From Engadget
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
I hope to see a very usable version of Android for these phones soon :)

Is it able to boot off a 2GB+ card yet? My only microSD is 2GB and it won't boot off it for some reason. Worked with a friend's 512mb card though.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] hwashburn428:
I am having the same problem as JohnW and I was wondering is there anyway to put this on a microSD card without formatting the card. I would really like to not have to go buy a 1 or 2 gig to just to test this out.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] yerp:
i can only boot from my 8gb sdhc card...the 512 that came with the phone doesn't work for me....
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] firefurby:
Which website are you going guys going to? You should try this one:

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

Download the everything you need thing, extract it and copy and paste it onto your card. Then browse to it in File Explorer and run haret.exe. It should open with default.txt in the text field and RUN by it. Click run and just wait for the magic to happen. :-)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Cycomachead:
So what needs to be done to get the latest build running on the titan? Also what are the document editing capabilities of android thus far?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
The latest build already runs on the Titan...

But since the buttons don't work, you can't exit apps. Hitting the end call key no longer takes you to the home screen... also, the phone is always "charging" (like literally, the phone thinks its on the charger. Light turns green and stays green, phone says charging on the screen, and when the screen goes off, the green light turns red lol) but this appears to be a problem on the Touch too.

It runs pretty smoothly. I had a hard time getting the phone to ungzip the files via HaRET so I did it on my computer and edited default.txt to point to "initrd" instead of "initrd.gz" and it fired up first try.

The new Android logo is a bit cooler than the ceylon eye was for sure lol

I love the desktop set up. Can drag and drop icons anywhere and its got virtual desktops if you just drag the stylus to the left or the right. Its obvious where Google intends to take this - they want it to be as familiar as a PC, which is a great thing!

But yeah... No RIL for the Touch means no RIL for the Mogul = no calls, SMS, web, etc.

Basically, it runs but its not very usable until dzo fixes the RIL and someone figures out how to get our buttons working properly...

EDIT: Oh and another thing - it is *STILL* not finger friendly. Have to use the stylus for everything or it won't register a tap. That's lame.

Alignment actually seems to be fixed though... dragging in the middle of the screen drags in the middle of the screen. What a concept lol
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
Eth,

What release for the titan are you using? The one on the massey site doesn't appear to be updated from the blog entries.

Where can we get the new one? :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
Tek,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2539752&postcount=678

And for the instructions - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2539913&postcount=684

Me personally, I couldn't get the files to ungzip on the device and had to do it with winrar on my computer and then edit default.txt to point to initrd instead of initrd.gz... You may have better luck than I.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] MrTek:
Hmm...when I D/L those GZ files, I can't open then with WinRar. They might be corrupted by my proxy I suppose. :(

I will try from a different location later
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TurboFool:
Haret worked perfectly for ungzipping them and it loaded just fine on mine. But the movement was iffy, and the lack of support for most of the buttons made it virtually unusable. Too bad, because I really wanted to play with it in its native form. Still, it's progress. I look forward to getting further with it. I wonder if we'll be able to find a way to fully install the final version on the Titan. I suspect Google wouldn't be bothered in the least by it, and would probably "help" by "leaking" whatever we need to get it done. It's only our carriers and Microsoft who might take issue. But I bet it'll be only a matter of time. I might have a Touch Pro by then, but that means I'll feel even safer experimenting with my Mogul. Wish Sprint made it as easy to switch phones on the fly as Helio did.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jonnrb:
They opened fine for me in 7Zip
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jonnrb:
I've tried at least 10 times using this meathod including ungzipping the initrd-android file. My phone still won't boot.

I'm using the HTC Mogul XT 2600 (same hardware as the Titan I think.) It even shows up as TITA100 in Device Info. I'm using a 2GB SD card that's basically clean.

Could somebody help?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jonnrb:
By the way, when i used the ungzipped file, HaRET complained that my boot image was too large. Is there any way to get around that?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] EtherealRemnant:
jonnrb,

We need more info than just "it doesn't work"

If HaRET is saying the image is too large, you did something wrong. Did you make sure to edit default.txt to point to initrd or did you set it to boot from one of the .img files?

I need to know exactly what you did in order to help you.

There's not much of a point right now to even bother with it though... until the RIL is fixed and we've got a way to get out of applications, its quite useless.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] germie99:
Here's my experience with Android so far.

Google maps <sattelite view>

Seattle

Sent myself an SMS

Browser homepage
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] unL33T:
Is this the same version of Android that is discussed in post #68? The new version goes straight to a "screen locked" display for me and none of the buttons work so I can't get out of it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Magister2k7:
How are you getting data connection to work???

For me, browser always telling "Network problem"...

I tried starting Android both with connected and disconnected data in WM, but it does not work :(

CDMA HTC PPC-6800, Intertelecom
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TheCodeBenders:
Hey, just flip out the keyboard and hit "q", it seems to correlate to a "Menu" button.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] halcyon441:
hello devs, can you help us please? we have been waiting for TWRP, custom roms, ... for a long time. i mean, it's a great device for me and all, but people seem to like the A50 more than A50s.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] Deleted member 6931281:
Installed successfully,

It's only the March security patch, nothing except that. If you're wondering, yes, the bugs are still here.

Xiaomeme will make it's best effort to bring you more buggy updates so install and enjoy them!
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] fongfc:
Ya they didnt fix anything
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] jlmcr87:
In where country are you receiving the OTA? can you tell me?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] Kam0:
Does they finally add face recognition?

I'm from Slovakia and still don't have update.

Odoslané z Mi A2 pomocou Tapatalku
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] Deleted member 6931281:
Hi, face recognition is a feature provided by Google Smart Lock and not Xiaomi. Google decided to ditch face unlock in Android 10 so there's no chance we get it back again
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] Kam0:
Really? So, why they decided to do this? Because in android 9 this feature was. Is there some way to add face recognition?

Thanks for respond

Odoslané z Mi A2 pomocou Tapatalku
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] n0b0dy666:
It was unsafe to use it in the first place so straight out removing it was sensible thing to do.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] jlmcr87:
Updated, all bugs are still there...
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] MentalBreach:
Thanks everyone for reporting the bugs after the installation ❤

I'll stick with Android 9 - November 2019 security patches for another month.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] walsumerjung:
Germany has no Update so far.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] jordiop:
I think that if we want something better without bugs, we should leave the stock rom because Xiaomi is a disaster updating Android One phones
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] Deleted member 6931281:
Well I actually did flash an custom ROM on my phone, I installed DerpFest but after seeing some serious overheating problem ( performance was way too smoother to be honest and battery was amazing ), decided to switch back to stock. If you can live with a less reliable device and have no problem with overheating, you should definitely try a custom ROM.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] keynerajs93:
For those who want to install, download the file and through adb sideload the update is performed.

V11.0.6.0.QDIMIXM
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] zwen0416:
No update in US yet
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] laviniu_c:
restart the phone - usually fixes the missing updates.

and they did fix one thing, the screen lock/unlock sounds. though i read it was a problem/fix in android and not specific to xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Guides, News, & Discussion] carboy00:
After restart still no updates. :(