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[General Topics] mrchris:
Hi, I've been using WM based phones for going on 3 years now, and lurking here for a good year or so.

My current phone/device is an Athena, which is a great internet device, but even with a bluetooth headset I've not found it to be a very good phone. I'm coming up on the end of my contract and have the opportunity to switch carriers, get a new handset, or wait.

My question now is really, whether jumping ship to the iPhone is worth while (I'd miss Opera and I've never got on with iTunes, but the visual voicemail and easy conf calling look really slick).

Alternatively I could hang on for an Android phone, but I'd wondering if it might be better to give them a year to two to develop a good software stack first..

Then there's WM7, but I gather thats not for at least another year, possibly more.

What is the concensus out there at the moment? Switch to a 'jesus phone', or wait a bit longer?

Thoughts much appreciated.
[General Topics] farukb:
well athena isn't an ordinary phone so i'd try something smaller,more compact

iphone has several phone functions,but that's it nothing more

and for android...let's wait for it,for android itself and for apps
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P40 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] snipeerz:
i have mate 30 pro and p40 pro

I notice that mate 30 pro has better quality than p40 pro specially at night I will upload some pics
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] UXELLR:
You will?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] SmartphoneRAT:
hmm ok?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] pesho00:
I moved from p30 Pro to P40 pro - The main camera on par with better shots in the dark wors night mode?

Zoom is a lot better, but far from other cameras ;)

Wide 18mm vs 16mm??? Bad move difference with main camera is not so big now and definitely far from Samsung's 13mm.

AI changed a lot especially in wide camera - pictures are not so punchy like P30's

Video is a lot better all over it but the zoom is not very good ;)

Overall good improvement but not overwhelming.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Joshyfry93:
Really struggling since the update I received yesterday ? Noisy night shots and a horrible pink/purple hue whenever the subject in the photo is black (my sofa for example). Would attach an example image but it doesn't seem to like me uploading anything ? Long term Huawei fan but for now I'm really unhappy. Preferred the P30 Pro.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] matik3789:
Are you sure? Yesterday was doing photos from mate 30 pro and p40 pro at night in the same place.

P40 pro Got really sharper details when you will zoom photos on pc.

Idk how to add photos then i will show here difference :p
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
I am a little disappointed, the pictures at night seem ok, but they are better with my old HTC U11 and GCam which is strange because the P40 Sensor is ten times bigger.

The pictures with the night mode are very noisy.

Do you think my P40 Pro have a problem ?

Here are the samples :

1) Huawaei P40 Pro

2) Huawei P40 Pro with night mode

3) HTC U11 with GCam and night mode

[IMG="Huawei P40 Pro"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/16/ewrx.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Huawei P40 Pro Night Mode"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/16/chc9.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="HTC U11 GCam Night Mode"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/16/eyeu.jpg[/IMG]
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] xnostra:
you answered your question yourself, your using gcam try it with default camera they will not win with p40. if you want to make a straight comparison use gcam also on p40 then comeback at me
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
I'd love it but I did not find any working GCam mod on the P40 Pro for now. If you know one, please tell me. From what I understand, it is difficult to port GCam on devices without snapdragon
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] xnostra:
try this

https://droidfunk.com/google-camera-7-4-for-huawei-p40-download/

although i dont like using gcam cause otherwise ill just buy a middle range phone if i will rely on that.

i bought a s20 ultra and p40 pro for their specs and their camera so if i will just be using gcam in the end then it means their camera is a fail.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
Thank you. I am sorry but when I click on the button "Google Camera for Huawei P40" it sends me to another page with many different GCam mods without saying which one is for the P40. Can you please give me the exact link to apk I must download ? I am very interested.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Right now Night Mod on P40 indeed has some issue. Pretty sure it will be fixed soon in an update. Well its good already using Auto without Night Mod, where others left behind.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
Ok, I understand now, thank you.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] rainchuva:
Be paitient, I have read the below on Huwaei's UK website forum:

Huawei P40 series has just received a software update in China, that installs numerous system optimizations including the camera features and brings the new AI 50MP high-resolution camera mode.

AI 50MP Mode?

As the names reflect, this camera mode is the combination of AI and the 50MP ultra vision camera. When a user clicks the shutter button, it takes a three-second long shot, similar to the night mode and takes a number of images then combines it into one.

The process creates a high-resolution image created by the pixels taken from the images captured during the three seconds.

You can see the difference when you pinch and zoom the images taken from regular 50MP mode and the AI 50MP modes.

Huawei P40 series equips 50 MP Ultra Vision Camera (Wide Angle, f/1.9 aperture) including the largest CMOS sensor to date. Measuring 1/1.28 inches diagonally, compared to 1/1.7 inch type camera in P30 pro.

More on this update:

A week ago, Huawei P40 series received a first software update that installed a number of improvements related to its camera and system. Now there’s new software version rolling for this lineup but this time it’s for the Chinese users.

Huawei is rolling out a new update for Huawei P40 series that installs optimizations for the camera, Always on Display, multi-device control panel, display, and system stability.

The update comes in two packages and the changes are listed below.

CHANGES IN THIS UPDATE:

Camera: Optimizes the photo effect in high-pixel mode, improve the imaging quality, optimize the camera stability, and improve the shooting effect.

Always on Display: Adds a new condensed color scheme clock style.

Multi-Device Control Panel: Adds screen collaboration support for Huawei Vision TV X65, to share video playback.

Display: Optimizes the display effects.

System Stability: Improves system stability for better performance.

HUAWEI P40 SERIES EMUI VERSIONS:

Huawei P40 and P40 Pro receiving this update with EMUI version 10.1.0.122 and 711 MB in size. The update is currently rolling in China but it may also expand for other countries with a different version and a few changes.

Cheers,

L.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] dezy1337:
Broken Hardware

I have several issues with the camera myself. As one user here stated: my darkgray/black couch is purple/pinkish. Indoor videos changes colours, lots of yellow tone slightly transitioning to purple/pink and overubeautifiyng the scenery. Zooming in and out during the recording makes it horrible as the color changes a lot depending on to which lens it switches. Also the zoom is very jittery and camera jumps as it goes through the zoom and switches lenses. As soon as the lens switches, it kind of interrupts the recording for a fraction or turns black and then kind of like a lightbulb burns. Visible outdoor at daylight and very annoying at night or in darker areas/indoors.

60fps videos have horrible quality.

I have posted some samples on youtube, which I cannot link here due to being freshly registered after lurking around for years. Look up ThePussycuz if you care.

Pictures at night are very noisy and horrible, unrecognizable in the dark.

I wonder whether I have a faulty camera and should send it in or whether it gets fixed with future updates?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] UXELLR:
This is something the corrupt "review 2 weeks later- I'm working with Huawei $ )" , Youtubers wont tell you.

Anyway, Hope it gets fixed.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] dezy1337:
So you think it's a software matter? Not sure whether I want to send it in, especially since I finally managed to get GMS working.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] UXELLR:
Sorry, don't know. In dxomark review there was some green and red color cast errors, and in other reviews the nightmode seems unfinished. As in not actually gaining picture quality. Have just tested the p40 pro in shops. That one seemed like missing HDR capability, blown out highlights, and was extremely sensitive in terms of blurry picture due to hand/camera shake. Hope other who has more experience here can help you. The phone is still new and ofcourse be better with updates.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] xanthos84:
S20 64MP photos look better than 50MP P40 Pro photos.

I can post two sample pictures of both devices of the same scenery and you can clearly see that the 64MP Samsung sensor does a MUCH better job!

P40 PRO 50 MP main sensor:

[IMG="P40 PRO"]https://i.imgur.com/Saq4Mr5.jpg[/IMG]

S20 64MP sensor:

[IMG="S20"]https://i.imgur.com/eKwWrRe.jpg[/IMG]

It's not even close!!!! Look at 100% and compare yourself

jpg 100% cropped in

S20

[IMG="s20 cropped in"]https://i.imgur.com/022MYJQ.jpg[/IMG]

P40 PRO 100% cropped in

[IMG="p40 pro cropped in"]https://i.imgur.com/hYPrnSp.jpg[/IMG]

---------- Post added at 02:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:27 PM ----------

I had a look at your videos on Youtube.

You have a misunderstanding how the camera works, so thats why you get wrong results - or at least something you dont expect.

Your recorded video in 60fps does ZOOMING activities - and the P40 Pro simply cant record in 60fps on other lenses than the MAIN lense. So its ALL digital ZOOM in 60 fps videos.

Otherwise on the 30fps videos, the P40PRO can switch between the lenses during zooming - so of course, it can use it native 5times zoom lense - and so you get a much better result in the end.

Hope this clarifys it for other people too.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] wezzel98765:
Most frustrating thing, the pixel binning 12mp auto mode always generates a better perceived quality than the pro mode :(
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Klosterbruder:
Frustrating? I am happy about the binning/stacking algorithms doing such a great job. :)

Try taking some RAW pictures. Then try to achieve a picture quality just similar to the 12 MP modes. You'll have a hard time. :D

I do a lot of RAW processing, I also am at home with stacking procedures (did some nebula astrophotography with telescopes), so I know the ropes a bit.

And I really struggle to achieve the same quality as the fine algorithms of the P40 Pro deliver.

There's always a price to be paid for taking photos with a small smartphone sensor which often provides a better picture quality in 12 MP mode compared to the full resolution. It IS possible to take full resolution photos better than the 12 MP ones; but it's a question of circumstances.

Thus I rely on the auto modes (because the subzero UI of the Pro Mode effectively prevents manual settings) if taking pictures with the P40 Pro. And I am really happy with the outcome.

Different when using my Fuji: Manual mode only, JPG AND RAW picture output all times. RAW really helps here, due to the better, larger sensor and lenses. But that's still a benefit of the "real" cameras. And that won't change during the next years to come. ;)

I use the P40 Pro as an "always with me" camera, doing a real fine work which had never really let me down. And for really challenging situations or high quality jobs, there's the Fuji.

No competitors, just perfect companions, both deserving a great deal of love. :)
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Great explanation there. Smartphone camera are meant to be point-and-shoot system, due to limited sensor size. Therefore Huawei did a good job by introducing the image stacking feature.

The way I see it, using Huawei phone, image stacking are like their 'Auto HDR'. When the text 'sharpening image, please hold still...' appear, thats when the image stacking happening.

Master AI on - Auto HDR image stacking, with colors & contrast boost base on scene detection.

Master AI off - Auto HDR image stacking, with no color & contrast boost. (I use this, most of the time)

Pro Mode (left everything in Auto, untouched settings) - No Auto HDR, the 'sharpening image, please hold still...' text wont appear, means image stacking will not process. Of course with no color & contrast boost either. Sometimes I need this method in order to darken shadows & brighter highlights for specific scene. Its working like what Sony Xperia in Auto image processing, traditional JPEG compression with no image stacking.

Guys, share your Instagram account here for image taken by Huawei goodies! Mine is 'shuibullah.amran'

Most of it are street photography, which my kind of things. ?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] scoubi23:
Hello sorry for my english i use google.

the P40 pro has macro mode like the P30 pro?

can you do macro like the P30 pro?

the quality of the photos and really better than the P30 pro or is it minimal?

thank you
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] exodus394:
The P30 Pro is the last Pro with macro lens. Because it uses the wide camera for macro. Mate 30 Pro,P40 Pro and Mate 40 Pro are using different lens for wide camera. They can't focus so close as P30 Pro. But if you're taking a photo at about 10-15 cm distance,with a little zoom,the results are very good,sometimes even better than P30 Pro. I had a P30 Pro...and yes,P40 Pro is a lot better in photos and videos in general.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] shuthichi:
P40 Pro: First camera tests are very disappointing

Hi everybody,

since a few days i have a P40 Pro with GoogleServices on version 10.1.0.176 (C432E8R4P1). The first happiness about the device and the possibility to use the Google Playstore was only of short duration and has unfortunately quickly faded away.

I use my Smartphone a lot to take pictures. I had admittedly quite high expectations of the device.

My first experiences:

RAWs cannot be used in Lightroom. I would like to edit my images myself. The RAWs of the P40 Pro all have an extreme green tint. Lightroom (CC and mobile) shows +150 on all. Probably feed back to the RYYB sensor.

Landscape photographs are often not in focus.

Camera App often switches between the lenses when taking pictures.

I cannot control which lens the device should use, especially at close range.

Shutter release hangs more often and then takes an infinite number of pictures.

Continuous shooting in automatic mode takes too long to take the first picture.

The picture quality is in no way better than that of the P30 (not Pro). With the P20 and P30 I always shot in RAW mode and developed the pictures myself. With much better outcome.

All in all very disappointing.

The only positive thing I have noticed so far: Portraits become quite good in automatic mode. You don't even have to intervene with Lightroom.

Are there still people who feel the same way I do?

Best,

Niko
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] reyhanjuala:
Camera Quality on Main Camera in Auto Mode

Greetings,

as someone who's tempted to buy P40 Pro, I wanna ask to anybody's who already use two flagship this year. Is the camera quality on the main camera in auto mode good or bad? Cause with P40 Pro I always see mixed reviews from people (not reviewers) about the cameras. Thank you
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] SammyVDA:
In my experience the quality of the main camera in auto mode (I have AI turned on) is outstanding. I initially pre-ordered the phone and have been using it since. The camera improved quite a bit as well with newer firmware releases.

I was able to compare my P40 Pro to my new iPhone 12 Pro Max before returning the latter. So that's my two flagship phones this year.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] mikey2020:
like it

I think the photo quality is better that the other unit, I trust this brand.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] :
Every new digital camera, smartphone, or digital watch I get is defective for one week or so. That was true with my p40 pro, too. For a week or so, it was miserable. Now I'm starting my third week and I'm amazed at how much the camera has improved. Not having GMS sucks but the p40 pro is very nice. I got it for the camera and I'm not disappointed. I usually use pro mode and have not even tried the night mode. I like night shots without night mode.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Hi guys, heard that EMUI 11 decrease camera quality, can someone confirm? EMUI 11 available already in my phone, but still stick with 10.1 because of the rumors.

*Nevermind. The first EMUI 11 stable .151 decrease image quality, but newer .168 seems like to fix it. No complains now 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Some of my photos taken by P40 recently.

Master AI off, edited using Polarr. Part of it taken using x2 zoom (55mm), and it doesnt look like a digital zoom at all, thanks to the Super Res algorithm. Love the near 1 inch main sensor.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] arsenal74:
I am seeing a purple hue on mine still, especially if there is any black or grey in the scene
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] dekson9:
You are not alone bro. I think all of us have this bug in lowlight conditions.

Maybe it doesnt with all firmwares ?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
It has when I'm using EMUI 10.1...looks like its gone on EMUI 11
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] arsenal74:
I am on EMUI 11 and it is still there on mine.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Weird. The issue gone in mine. Try to clear storage data in camera, then restart.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
A bit of street photography shoot out recently. My IG profile - www.instagram.com/shuibullah.amran/

Shares yours too 🤗
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Moaka64:
Hi guys atm I'm on. 175 and pics are really good maybe just night video are crap its x5 zoom, normal and crop photo ( on bee photos ) last night pic was take with night mode completly in the dark ( just moonlight )
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
You are not wrong. At the moment, 64mp on S20+ does beat 50mp P40 Pro. Well its higher on resolution anyway, and of course, will improve by updates. But the rest of the aspects? P40 Pro are the overall winner - https://www.androidauthority.com/hu...o-vs-galaxy-s20-plus-camera-shootout-1108282/

And not to forget, AI 50mp camera update are coming to P40 series, which will hugely improve its clarity & details (just like Honor V20 previously) - https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_p40_series_get_new_ai_50mp_camera_mode_via_update-news-42775.php
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] matik3789:
Fast auto photos. Flowers did on 2x zoom. Hamster if good remember on x5. Photos in night are on auto because without camera updtae night mode is in green. Got s10 in house and mate 30 pro. In all conditions p40 pro doing better photos and sharper with more details when cropping on pc
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] jericho246:
Took some pictures earlier. I believe AI master was on for the cat photos. The pic with the books was 5x zoom.

Overall I'm happy with the camera.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] H-Emmanuel:
I kinda wish there was a way to shoot in regular photo mode at a higher resolution than 12MP, like 25MP which sound like a good compromise between 12MP and 50MP.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] saneofficial:
Guys I just got P40 Pro (coming from P30 Pro) and as a professional photographer (I do that for a living in the past 10 years) I can tell you that the P40 Pro camera is definitely a downgrade. Especially night shots suffered dramatically compared to P30 Pro.

Much, MUCH more noise and weird blue-ish casts around the edges of the frame.

The whole image looks weirdly "smudged", P30 Pro actually has a very clean and detailed image at night!

However, I didn't get the phone for the photos (weird, I know), but for the experience. The phone is a beast, ultra-smooth, face unlock is AMAZINGLY fast and the whole phone feels very premium.

I highly recommend it, but if you are going to get it for the camera, P30 Pro is hands down the better shooter.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
I had the 121 update yesterday, and now the pictures are much much better. Much sharper and less loise at night and more natural colors at day. The night mode is not broken anymore.

The pictures were so bad with the 114 build that I thought of resending it. But now I don't regret keeping it.

DxOMark certainly did not have the 114 build for its review.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Great for you. Finally Huawei outs its stable firmware updates. DxOMark got the new firmware first, but maybe only on camera system, while other parts still on beta, so not consumer ready.

Care to show some samples on the updated firmware?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
Here some samples

114 normal mode

[IMG="114 normal mode"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/19/oogq.jpg[/IMG]

114 night mode (broken)

[IMG="114 night mode"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/19/pouu.jpg[/IMG]

121 normal mode

[IMG="121 normal mode"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/19/sxar.jpg[/IMG]

121 night mode

[IMG="121 night mode"]https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/19/nqsj.jpg[/IMG]
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Yup so much better now! Though in that scene, better off using Auto without Night Mode, as it makes no difference lol.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] saneofficial:
Sadly still way worse than P30 Pro after the 121 update. Details are just not there, there's something weird with that sensor.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] flystarjay:
can you post comparison images?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
There are differences but subtle
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] yfnew:
Does 121 (or 122 for C636 models) come with the Super Macro mode? On my P30 Pro when I hold the phone close enough to the object, the phone automatically switches into the Super Macro mode; on my P40 Pro (on 122), however, the image simply gets very blurry, and the phone never enters the Super Macro mode. I don't know if previous firmware of P40 Pro has it as I only tested it yesterday.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Borh77:
Not with the 121
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] alexxutzu:
For me on 121 update, Auto mode is still brighter than Night mode.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] jericho246:
There's no Super Macro mode on my P40 Pro .121 version.

It's strange because here it says it's possible https://consumer.huawei.com/en/emui10-1/tips/entertainment-list/article11/

But it says "HUAWEI P40", not P40 Pro. So perhaps it's only possible on the P40 but not the Pro? ?

EDIT: Lol just found this on Android Authority