yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bchakkappan:
Thanks Mr.Carlos for the prompt reply.

I'm not keen on the camera quality, but the ear piece volume problem worries me. I basically use the PDA as a phone. so volume n not missing calls r important to me.

How do u rate WM 1.77 call quality without using the speaker phone or head sets?

Is it audible in somewhat noisy outdoors?

Cheers

Binu
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Hi Binu,

Due to the 9502's size and weight, I always used BT headsets (both mono and stereo) with it, which always worked and sounded flawlessly in v1.77, by the way, but I recall once, when I was sitting on a cafe's table on a mall and my headset's battery got flat. Of course a call came in, and I had to talk to the caller on the 9502's earpiece. The conversation flowed fine, then, but I got a question from the waiter about the brick I was taking to my ear. :). Anyway, it happened on one occasion only, so I'm afraid I'm not the right person to answer your question on how its earpiece really sounds on a regular basis, mainly outdoors.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wfayez:
Dear Carlos,

even re-flashing using your combination (press and hold both the left OK and the right volume minus (-) buttons, and, at the same time, briefly press the power button) is not working and still have freezing blue screen.

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] test1t:
I have updated to the latest rom, but have lost the profile controller functionality. Does anyone know where I can download the cab from to get it back ?

Thanks

Andrew
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I think this one is i-mate's profile controller. Hope it works for you.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Really sorry that you are stuck in this state for such a long time. Man, key combinations always worked for me. Is your device's battery still up? I don't know whether in this state it will charge or not. Otherwise, look for an external charger for your battery. Other thoughts: you might happen to have a friend who you think to be more skilled than you in the WM environment. If so, ask him/her to try the combinations for you. Or, perhaps your device is really faulty, then. Consider taking it to a service office.

Regards,

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bchakkappan:
As u know I am with WM 6.0, even with this, the profile controller is missing!!!

But my manual says about the profile controller (???? !!!!)

By the way, what should I do with this file? where to copy, which folder in the phone ? shall i copy the entire file or after extracting?

Sorry for being so ignorant...

Cheers

Binu
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Copy the cab file to wherever you want, i.e. either in your device's internal storage or in a storage card inserted on it. Then, tap over it, and it'll be installed on your device. Some cab files ask you where you want it to be installed, others install directly in your device's internal storage. Don't know how this one will behave. I use to do this way: applications which will appear as a Today plugins, I install in my device's memory. Otherwise, if I'm offered the option, they'll go to my storage card.

Hope you don't find my post too complicated, since English is not my mother language. :)

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bchakkappan:
Thank you Carlos,

That was pretty straight..

I am going to give it a try..

Cheers

Binu
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bchakkappan:
Thanks,

it worked perfectly and the profile configurator is shown in the todays screen, also in the settings menu.(when I tapped the cab file, it didnt ask for a location and after the installation I restarted the device n it worked)

Any idea, why I mate kept it away from the official release ( mine is a brand new packed piece)?

One more query.. How can I bring the Windows media player to the Todays screen?

Cheers

Binu
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I've seen an old WMP Today plugin here. Have not tried it myself, though. Do it at your own risk! :)

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fcasini:
how to disconnect 3G connection?

Hi guys,

I have a little issue with my 8502. Is there a tip or workaround to easily disconnect 3G connection after use?

It is very annoying tryng to close the connection tapping on the small 3G icon on the top bar... isn't so?

How to create a shortcut usefull to hang down the connection?

I have tryed lots of applications but nothing seems to be working.

Thanks

sorry for bad english

fausto
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sadtearz:
Big Problem :(

good day, i am a newbie at this forum.. i have a big problem and hoping you guys can help me. i have an imate 8502 and i forgot my user password.. i cant go directly to my mobile desktop.. i have tried to perform hard reset using combination key but sad to say it wont working to me. i want to flash my device, but i cant connect to my pc because activesync promt something like this "Your device is currently lock. to connect pls unlock your device first." what should i do ?:( please advice..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mrlxuser:
I know its off topic but pls help me:

Im a newbie and want to now how to use dumprom and mkrom because it doesnt work on my computer.

I located dumprom here C:\fsc.tmp\PocketLOOX7xx\FlashUpdateV711

and started it but the cmd window closed after a second and nothing was done.

I wanted to use another spellchecker for my loox 720.

My operating system is:

Windows XP SP3

AMD Athlon XP-2000 ( 1607 Mhz )

1024 MB Samsung DDR RAM

nVidia GeForce 6200A 256 MB

Maxtor 40 GB Harddisk and Maxtor 20 GB Harddisk

Asrock K7VT2 Mainboard
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mailsforvarun:
Hey mate... is it the puk code or a device lock???

Did u try hard resetting with the mobile switched off? Did u also try the soft reset button?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sadtearz:
hi mailsforvarun, it is a device lock.. i cant perform hardreset because i cant even go to my mobile gui. i try the soft reset but it not working, still my device asking for password. I also try several combination key to hardreset my device manually but it doesnt work too. :( any idea?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ryo9502:
please help

hello guys, i'm a newbie

i want to upgrade my 9502 from wm 6 to wm 6.1, but i don't have the unlock rom code. can anybody help me? can an unlock rom code generated form keygen? anyway here is my imei number : 355223010023678 perhaps it could help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] anryl:
HARD RESET 8502 IS COMBINATION OF FN+GREEN CALL + POWER ON DEVICE so no gui needed IT SHOULD WORK

U CAN FLASH U DEVICE AGAIN JUST PUT IT TO BOOT LOADER LEFTOK + VOLDWN+ POWER ON and run THE FLASH

for 9502 IS THE SAME JUST DIFFERENT KEYS

U CAN NOT UPGRADE WITHOUT ROMUNLOCK CODE nobody was able to crack it yet SORRY
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mailsforvarun:
mate.. not sure if it would work, but i came across something in a website. Just look for NCmail outlook web access. this might help. Do let me know if it does.

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andrysoft:
Sygic McGuider World Maps 2009 v7.72 a program works perfectly the on 8502 WM6.1 under 1.77. It is necessary to use this, NOT iGo !!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fcasini:
two questios

Hello,

Finally I have installed Imate profiler application but it seems to be really unusable. Hot to remove it? It is not in the remove software list? Then?

The second question is a little bizarre behaviour: it is impossible to switch off the phone. Even pushing on the key on top of the phone..... nothing happens. However the key is working because I use it to put the phone in standby.

any suggestion before the next hard reset?

thanks

fausto
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Hi fausto,

To completely switch your device off, press and hold the power button (on the top) until a popup window comes up asking you if you really want to do it (some 5 seconds). Release the power button, confirm it, and it is done!

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andrysoft:
You use it for GPS Sygnic Mobile program. Ultimate figures on the list of the compatible devices the 8502. I use this and good! Sorry for the bad English...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fcasini:
Hi Carlos and thanks for the suggestion but the problem is that even keeping the power button pressed and held...... no popup comes up!!!!! Nothing to ask and nothing to answer...... simply nothing happens. I can keep pushing on the power button for hours but phone is allways on. Btw, pushing quickly on the power button phone goes in standby regularly......

For the moment, I keep it allways on......

thanks however.

bye

fausto
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andrysoft:
One of the programs put up do not allow the switching off. It is necessary to wipe it in order for you to look at it one by one, which one.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
I have the same issue with my Treo 750 and also have not found any solution yet. I recently got 8502 and see that similar happens with I-Mate.

Can somebody suggest us any other useful way to terminate data connections except to tap the data connection icon using the stylus?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I think all WM builds come with a default (and very simple and concise) wireless manager program in '\Windows'. It's called 'wrlsmgr.exe'. Run it (you can create a shortcut to it in e,g, '\Windows\Start Menu\Programs' too), and you'll find 'Disconnect Cellular Data' (accessible if it is connected, that is) in its 'Menu' (in the right softkey).

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
Yes, Carlos, you are correct, there are Wireless Managers in Start > Settings > Connections > Wireless Manager in Palm Treo 750 or in Start > Programs > Wireless Manager in I-Mate 8502. But what both of them can do is to completely switch the phone OFF / ON. They do not allow to end data connections only and keep the phone ON in order to be able to receive and send telephone calls. Any other ideas how to terminate data and, in the same time, not to affect the phone functions?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
No, I'm not talking about the wireless manager provided by either the phone manufacturer or the carrier you might have bought your phone from, but the WM one, instead. Don't you have the file '\Windows\wrlsmgr.exe'? If not, I could upload it to you. You see, this one does have the data disconnection option.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
OK, I have just found out and executed wrlsmgr.exe located in Windows folder. And it actually starts some other sort of software which differs from “the manufacturer’s” Wireless Manager. But again, there is no option to terminate the data only. For instance, if I run that .exe file in my 8502 I have only three options – Wi-FI, Bluetooth & Phone and no any separate item to switch data connection ON/OFF.

But I also have HTC MTeoR (without touch screen) which operates Windows Mobile 5 for Smartphone and “the manufacturer’s” Wireless Manager in MTeoR does have separate sub-menu “Data Connections” which allows me to end data only and keep the phone alive.

So, if you have similar Wireless Manager with “Data Connections” which can be operated on WM 6 Professional in I-Mate 8502 as well in Palm Treo 750 (same OS) I will be very grateful if you could upload it here. And in such a case please also post your instructions on how to install it – to be frank, I am not too experienced in software installation.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Oops

Oops, it's a system file (it's in the ROM). I'm unable to copy it to whatever other location. So, I can't upload it here. However, it's somewhat strange that the wrlsmngr.exe on your 8502 doesn't show the data disconnection option in its Menu, because both my Acer M900 and my i-mate 9502, although in each of these devices, this file shows different creation dates, they share exactly the same size (18512 bytes). How come in the 9502 it shows the data disconnection option, but in the 8502 doesn't? Which date and size are shown for this file in your 8502?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
Dear Carlos, my date is 05/10/07 and size is 18.0 k
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Which ROM do you have in your 8502? Are you still using the stock WM6.0 ROM? If so, if you flashed it to WM6.1, which i-mate released back in 2008, I suppose this file would be different

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
Yes, my phone is only several days old (just came from e-bay) and I am using the stock WM 6.0 ROM. I checked this tread but still not sure if I shall try to re-flash it – I see posts about negative experience and since I do not have experience I afraid I may damage my phone. Perhaps I will better continue to tap the small icon rather than completely kill the device.

But what is interesting to me is why rather old HTC MTeoR with WM 5 has the “data connections” in its Wireless Manager but more modern devices do not? Perhaps because MTeoR does not have touch screen and there is no any other way to stop the data except the keyboard? And later Microsoft or the manufacturer’s people decided that it would not be too difficult for users to tap the icon on touch screens and removed that option from the stock WM 6.0 for Ultimate 8502 and Treo 750? What do you think?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
Dear Carlos, I just got one wrlsmgr.exe. I found that file on a Russian forum. The poster advised the file was from HP IPAQ 614 and people could place it in Windows folder and run on other devices. I checked reviews of IPAQ 614 and it seems IPAQ 614 unfortunately does not have data disconnection in its Wireless Manager as well - only Wi-Fi, Bluetooth & Phone as a whole. So, it makes no sense for me to try it on either my 8502 or Treo 750. But you see, in general it is possible to extract such a “system file” from Windows!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Ok, I've managed to re-construct file wrlsmgr.exe, after dumping file IMAGEFR.mbn from a WM6.1 EUM SFX upgrade file for the 9502, which was stored in my laptop since November/2008, and recmodding the appropriate folder.

Although its size is bigger than the original one in my old 9502, I've tested it on my M900, and it has worked fine.

Just unpack the attached file and copy its contents to wherever you want on your device (e.g. '\Windows'). Hope it works for you too.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
Thanks, Carlos! I copied your file on my Ultimate 8502 and run it. However there is still not separate option “data connection” All what I got when I executed your file on my 8502 was All, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth & Phone. I.e. I received the same menus as if I run original stock wrlsmgr.exe located in Windows folder. So, it seems that items which appear in Wireless Manager do not only depend on wrlsmgr.exe but on some other Window’s files as well? What do you think?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
You must tap on 'Menu' (the right softkey) in order to have the data disconnection option.

I tested this file prior to uploading it. That option was there! Hope you are able to find it.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sirob:
Dear Carlos, I am ashamed but must admit I am rather stupid! I expected that data disconnection would appear in the main window as it usually happens with my HTC MTeoR. I did not understand that I shall not only run wrlsmgr.exe but use Menu soft key to obtain further options as well. As it turned out I have data disconnection even in my own wrlsmgr.exe - when I press Menu soft key I get “Disconnect cellular data” and can terminate data very simply and by keyboard! So, what I have to do now is to create a shortcut as you suggested earlier. I hope I am not completely stupid and shall be able to do that. Please accept my apologies for wrong info I posted and thank you very much for your valuable assistance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wfayez:
video call for IMate 8502

hello Carlos,

I have a problem with my I-Mate 8502 (WM 6.1) that I can't make any video call, every thing is OK I mean that I have 3G signal but can't make video call setting.

Please advise.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mmidgley:
9502 1.73 ROM working!

I have attempted and successfully applied this ROM to my 9502 from a WinXP PC. I followed the readme instructions exactly and the install process worked without any concern. I did not have to manually hard reset at any point. My device shows the original blue i-mate screen and then the Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 screen at bootup. There is no sign of Telstra (I thought there would be a Telstra logo or something based on comments in the thread). However, like the original rom, it did default in the phone app to AU bands and I had to change this to US (or Auto) to get the phone going.

I used SPB Backup 2.0 to restore after the rom upgrade. It appears to have done it right! That saved a lot of time! Thanks SPB!

I have tested SDHC with my sandisk 8gb card and it appears correctly in the Memory/Storage Card section and is reading/writing fine. WiFi connected and operated fine. I am browsing via WiFi and listening to music from my card. Appears to be no conflict. :)

Garmin MobileXT, Google Maps, and Microsoft Live Search all "automatically" activated the GPS and worked fine! I kinda wish Microsoft would have let us choose a "time-out" value for how long to keep the gps hot after the last process using it closes its connection. (ie for switching to a different gps app--but maybe they assume the gps will hook back up quick enough?). I like the automatic mode better, but there were some cases where I liked the manual mode as in the original 9502 rom. Maybe it would have been nice for Microsoft to give us the option of auto or manual too.

I have about 15MB more RAM free than before. (something like 45MB free at boot with my stuff installed and all the i-mate junk running). I would like to have seen more, but this is progress!

The first time I ran the camera the view was strangely dark. I took a photo and indeed it was dark. I closed it and ran it a second time and this time it appears to have adjusted properly and appears to be working now. I still don't see anything regarding geo-tagging (but I haven't had time to search thoroughly).

This may be considered a "beta" release, but it has addressed all of my major 9502 ROM concerns I've had from the start--and without any major bugs (that I've read about or seen myself yet). It would go a LONG way for i-mate to at least clue customers in on "we have solved this... and plan to release in this timeframe..."

m.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Toast Rack:
Can't find that function in WM6.1, apart from in the Internet Sharing app, which was already available in WM6.0. Where is it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phyber:
Start --> Settings --> Phone --> Advanced --> HSPA Settings

You can choose "economy mode " or "Turbo Mode".
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tag:
Sorry guys, I haven't replied since my original post. I haven't had internet for the past week. Unfortunately, we were asked to take down the original download link :( .

But, I saw some of the other users re-uploaded it. So I will update my original post with the links. Thanks loonsy and netnerd!

Anyways, I wanted to give an update my experience with the new rom. All I can say is that this rom has been very stable for me. I installed all my regular mobile software and I haven't had any issues so far.

Here's is some of the stuff I've installed:

SPB Mobile Shell 2.1

SPB Weather 1.7.4

SPB GRPS Monitor

PRSS Reader 1.34

MS Reader

TomTom 6

iGuidance 4.0 with JAL Port Splitter

Resco Explorer 2007

MS Voice Command 1.6

Coreplayer 1.25

Total Commander

WKtasks

1-Calc

Previously with Mobile Shell, the device would consistently freeze. Now it's working beautifully. The only thing I can't get working correctly is Skype, I tried to use ver 2.2. I keep getting an error saying that Skype cannot start. Maybe an earlier version will work, too bad I don't have one to try.

Also after adding all these programs and removing the iMate services from the startup folder

I have almost 37 MB of free program memory. Not shabby considering what it was before.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] treoreloaded:
This is very cool! i will upgrade mine tonight and now this unit will ROCK. One of the best PPC device out there. Thanks for this ROM
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
Still loses network signal all the time when on standby. I was hoping it'd have sorted that out. I'm gunna make a thread seeking help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
FINALLY!!!

I got IGO8 working. use the latest version thats out there on the web. Check the DIAMOND forum.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phyber:
Guys...

I don't know how to activate or not 3G+...

Is it possible like the HTC Comm manager to active/desactivate 3G+?

It's the same for push mail...with WM 6.0 it was possible to activate/desactivate push mail and now not!

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Toast Rack:
This seems to be missing on the 8502 ROM - can anyone confirm it's a 9502-only feature?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phyber:
No, I have an 8502 unbranded.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Toast Rack:
Sorry, does that mean the feature appears on unbranded 8502s? Is it disabled on my Telstra version only? Thx
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phyber:
It's very strange...i will take a screenshot tonight to show you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
i got igo working but it cannot find the GPS, while GoogleMaps does. Any ideas anyone?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] motionmind:
Try Com 9, I believe that's the default port.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] CEPi:
COM 9,

Baud 4800
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] netnerd:
phone always lockup/freeze when i select com9 on imate 9502.

after i loaded gpsgate, then it' running ok!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] treoreloaded:
is there a way we can adjust the earpiece volume. i think its still a littlebit low.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
thanks very much for this ROM. for the first time this device is stable and finally what it should be. and its very fast at bootup which is trememdous.

Shame that imate dont supply some decent software or today plugins, like HTC or Samsung do.

I came from a Treo, then TYTN II and now have this, an i780 and a Diamond. I believe this is now a better machine than the i780 in every respect, except maybe physical looks (its dated in my opinion) and the fact that I have to load up so much 3rd party software to get it to do what I want (including gps gate). With the Diamond it basically has everything pre-installed and the VGA screen is fantastic, but nothing beats a real keyboard (keyboard is OK but still noone does a keyboard better than Palm).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jmone:
Oh No...me too - anyone got the phone back from this state yet??? I can reconnect, run the upgrade prog and it "sees" the phone and tries to do the upgrade but then I get an Error [204] : Connect Fail. The 9502 then reboots just fine but ONLY ONCE - if I power it down then I'm back to the "EUM Update Fail" message.....off to try a Master Reset....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sab3elbromba:
Isn't there a need to unlock the extended ROM like we always do on other phones ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bchakkappan:
Hi Carlos,

My one month old 9502 just hanged yesterday. I was making so many calls(it was a busy day yesterday) and the phone just hanged. I tried to switch it off and then ON, but the thing wont get ON. It was showing a low battery alarm, though just minutes before that battery signal had three bars. I connected it to the charger but the only charging LED blinks red and I cannot switch it ON.

I removed the battery and put after 5 minutes, tried to switch ON , no use.

when I put it to charging the charging LED is blinking in RED.

Pls suggest something..

(I am with my OLD NOKIA now)

Cheers

Binu