yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 General] jray1:
Not sure what the difference is but it works faster.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Th3m3:
AGPS uses a server to help find your position faster then just trying to connect to sats

Here is a good explanation

http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/06/23/what_is_agps
[Mogul, XV6800 General] VMackie:
Ok thanks for the quick replys
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] ShadowBlade_20:
Hi guys! I'm just curious on what roms you find the best. I mainly just want an excellent battery and decent performance.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] vaisakmct:
Pe9plus
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] BabyTedhu:
Here is Linkof PE 22-07 build(last build without inbuilt vendor, 22 july 2019 build), i’m using with 9.5.30 vend+fw , it gives me 9+ Hrs SOT with nornal usages.

- i felt roms with inbuilt vendor gives less battery backup, so i have been using this last PE build which does not have inbuilt vendor. So before flashing rom, you have to flash 9.5.30 fw+vendor, then rom, and then dfe.

it gives me best touch expereince on my NVT :

Rom Link : this telegram group : search for legendary build : https://t.me/PixleExperiencePOCO

POCOF1Global_9.5.30-ven-firm.zip - this telegram group : search for legendary build : https://t.me/PixleExperiencePOCO

Installation Steps :

1. Clear data, system. (Format /data is recommended - it will delete your internal storage, back-up your data first)

2. Flash 9.5.30 vendor (firmware is inside combined)

3. Flash PE 2207(legendary-build) build

4 Flash dfe

5 reboot

-Stay with default kernel, in case if you feel touch issue like touch freeze, or ghost touch then only flash either illusion 4.1 or arter r10.

-this is pie build, it has all features of plus version, like double tap to sleep on statusbar, double tap to sleep on lockscreen, long press volume to skip track

- don't have any bugs, completely stable tom, it has IR Face unlock working.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] kubicarobert:
LineageOS official so you can update it with little problem.

Soon Lineageos 17.2 will be realeased, it will bring android 10 so you can wait untill it's released and once it's released you can try it. lineageos is often considered as the most stable and reliable custom rom
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] abdullah.darwish:
I've been using Pixelrom (2020-2-5 build)for the past two months and here is my experience

The rom is great in almost everything, touch is very good almost like the stock rom

It is smooth and fast and battery life is good

There is no screen freezes or ghost touches

The only Problem I have is calls, It works great most of the times but sometimes the others hear distort voice in the beginning of the call, The mobile coverage is less than the stock but it's good enough.

The other thing I wish to be changed is the lack of customization (it's not a problem but most of us use custom roms for customization)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] rmarcus:
Hi everyone, am I crazy or there used to be way to skip tracks pressing twice the volume keys?

Without any third part app.

Thanks
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
Fox kernel project for redmi s2/y2

/*
*Disclaimer

* Your warranty is now void.
* We're not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, we will laugh at you.
/

What is fox kernel ??

Fox kernel is a EAS "4.9" and caf "3.18" based kernel to get great battery life and performance , with also some personalization :D

we have also a Telegram gorup to support you if something gone wrong :D

Disclaimer

This kernel is only for ARM64 custom roms , so , don't flash it on miui
plus , don't flash 4.9 version on 3.18 roms or viceversa

Download link

Download link of 4.9 kernel variant

Download link of 3.18 kernel variant

how to flash it ?

simply flash it on twrp :eek:

FEATURES for 3.18 variant

- overclocked to 2,2ghz "Cpu" and 750mhz "Gpu"
- governors like lionfish , lionheart , smartmax , and more :D
- kcal , dts eagle , fast charge and backlight dimmer support
- always updated with latest caf code
- battery life and performance balaced
and more :D

FEATURES for 4.9 variant

- overclocked to 2,2ghz "Cpu" and 750mhz "Gpu" + non overclocked version
- eas governors schedutil ; blu_schedutil ; pixutil ; pixel_smurfutil
- kcal , fast charge and backlight dimmer support
- always updated with latest linux kernel updated
- wireguard support
- proper support on f2fs
- battery life and performance balaced
and more :D

if you have any question , join on our Telegram gorup

i want to thanks mahajant99 , rama , m_vaisakh for make arm64 possible on redmi s2 and darkhzy_kh and Nazmi981 who helped me to do this kernel :D

XDA:DevDB Information

Fox kernel , Kernel for the Xiaomi Redmi S2

Contributors

Its_Vixano, mahajant99, m_vaisakh, rama982 , darkhzy_kh , Nazmi981

Source Code: https://github.com/Fox-kernel/Fox_kernel_ysl_4.9

Kernel Special Features: Fox kernel is a EAS based kernel to get great battery life and performance , with also some personalization

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version: r1.0

Stable Release Date: 2020-03-18

Created 2020-03-22

Last Updated 2020-10-09
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] adnan1091:
You mentioned that nazmi has helped you to make this kernel.So,it means he has abandoned his qwerty kernel and this kernel is the successor of previous one?Is it better than the Gaming mode kernel?Have you benchmarked them both?
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
Sadly yes , after someone kanged his repo by saying he is made by own work of the past

Btw yes this is the successor of qwerty kernel , and for gaming , it works very well

For benchmark , i did a v3 that will get 100k on atuntu with the same frequency "yet on testing" :)
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] adnan1091:
It's really wierd that because of forking or participation in a project.Shame on that guy,somebody can take down an open source

project. But,I'm glad to see that you've been

interested in his project too.Without doubts, the

kernel of Nazmi was the best kernel for s2 until today.
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
v3 update

v3 is now up :D

changelog

- Update prima drivers from LA.UM.8.6.r1-04000-89xx.0
- Compiled with GCC 9.3 (experimental)
- Fixed battery 2% drop (experimental)
- Reduced the ticker to 80hz
- Disable GPU wake up on touch event
- Added some lz4 thinks
- Added dts eagle mod support
- Added dynamic Fsync support
- Added Intelliactive and Smartmax_eps Governor
- Added IntelliThermal V3.1
- Added Anxiety I/O scheduler
- Dts bus improvement
- Msm thermal optimizations
- Reduced kernel size
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
yeah , that guy also faked 4.9 kernel on ysl beta group "official one" and we kicked him .

then . after 1 day the release of qwerty turbo , he kanged some features from Nazmi repo by calling his own work from the past.

btw yeah , Nazmi one was the best :D

i will try my best to keep alive that project :good:
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] :
V3 is really balanced keep up the good work!!!
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shice456:
Is it faster than the 2.4ghz cpu and 905 mhz gpu kernel of nazmi??
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] hinarufi:
¿Can wee see someday a 3Ghz overclock? I saw that the Mi A1 overclock reach to 3Ghz with the same processor (SD 625).

In antutu Mi A1 scores 17xxxx points, more than redmi note 7 and near to redmi note 8 :eek:
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] GMAER:
Hi bro please make a new kernel with extreme clocks , which will help gamers like me
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DEEP 2000:
How i can download
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
4.9 is out now

4.9 kernel update

changelog:

- Initial 4.9 version
- Improved battery and performance
- now with oc and non oc version
- Merged 4.9.225
- Update wireguard to v1.0.20200506
- Proper support to f2fs
- Mics optimization
- Introduce state notifier
- Optimized temps
- Introduce new eas governors "schedutil ; blu_schedutil ; pixutil ; pixel_smurfutil"

download link on op

enjoy :D
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] MiDo_NaSR1:
thx for this kernel

thx for this kernel :D
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Baim alif:
thanks bro... so far good :good:
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
New 4.9 update

Changelog :

- Merged 4.9.226
- Ticker at 250hz
- Improved battery and performance
- CPU undervolt to 70mv
- Use -O3 optimization level
- Dts eagle support
- add NEON accelerated XOR implementation

download link on op

enjoy :D
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] jeremeel2015:
very nice kernel! getting a much smoother gameplay with OC build, thank you so much! :fingers-crossed:
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
New 4.9 update

Changelog:

- Rebased build
- Reduced zip size
- Built with arter GCC 9.3.0
- Merged 4.9.227
- Merged kernel.lnx.4.9.r11-rel from caf
- Improved DeepSleep
- Improved Idle Drain
- Improved Jitter
- Ticker at 80hz
- Revert undervolt for the moment
- Min Cpu freq at 1.0-1.6-1.9-2.0 gHz "for better efficiency
- More , check git lel

download link on op

enjoy :D
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Baim alif:
bro... the latest 227 version perhaps you could re checked, bcz it's give. me error notice in root side

busybox mountapplet missing/failed..

i also get same issues in 224 version...

thanks....

great work... :good:
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] DiegoMoralesA:
¿64 bits?
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
New 4.9 build

Changelog :

- Merged 4.9.228
- Import Xiaomi USB Changes "now don't spam me for slow charge kthx"
- Add cpufreq changes for ysl
- Fixed some Flashlight Issue

Download link : MOD EDIT: Link Removed

Enjoy :D
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
Yep , it's for 64bit roms only
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Baim alif:
latest 228 non oc
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajboy:
Am not spamming..but the charging is lill weird still... when screen on charging is slow ..but when screen is off it charges normal
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
I will give a look soon , i'm not at home in this moment
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajboy:
Pls look into the idle issue to...15 % drain over night..safe trip
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajboy:
Another bug i found is that sometimes i mean mostly some apps not get connected to internet unless restart. Specially playstore..am using latest revenge os wth latest fox kernel
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
Try to pick dmesg logs and/or logcat logs and send here if happening again "don't reboot"

you must runs those commands on pc

For dmesg:
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.txt

For logcat:
adb logcat > logcat.txt
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] ajboy:
Logcat

Here is the logcat
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Kurzgesagt:
I am using evo x rom , what version should i install ?
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
I Will check tomorrow :good:
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
3.18 variant
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Baim alif:
Will there be a new release sir ?
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
Just busy these days , upcoming cambrige exam makes me more nervous too "the exam day is near"

Will come btw
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Baim alif:
good luck bro ... thanks
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] botyokoy:
is it ok to use this on my asus zenfone live l1?
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] dekarpaulvictor:
Thanks for the kernel, bro. I'm using the 4.9 kernel on my device running Havoc Os 3.7. Whenever I try to activate usb tethering my device suddenly freezes and then switches itself off after two or three seconds. I flashed back the "stock" kernel for Redmi S2 (The Kerminator 4.9) and usb tethering works ok. Maybe you could have a look at the problem and get back to us when you get time. I love this Kernel, especially the extra governors packed in (I use the blu_schedutil governor and it balances performance and power saving to my liking). Thanks again, bro. And good luck in your exams.
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Rheydskey:
You can't
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] SilveRxHaM:
Why i can't install 4.9 in havoc 3.7

It's say invalid flie format

Error to flash zip file
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] rakionowner:
Oh yes, i was wondering. I did flash this kernel into RevengeOS, and my phone suddenly goes black after leave it for a minute...Am i make a mistake here?

Edited:- Problem occurs which is slow charging, after fully charged, the battery jump to 40%, and battery drain was really fast...
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Its_Vixano:
Sad news : this kernel is eol in favor of stormbreaker kernel

thread link https://xdaforums.com/redmi-s2/development/kernel-stormbreaker-eas-kernel-t4174553

[MENTION=5893314]shadowstep[/MENTION] can you close this thread btw ??
[Xiaomi Redmi S2 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] shadowstep:
THREAD CLOSED

Requested by OP.

Regards,

shadowstep

Forum Moderator
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] alws34:
hi!

my phone recently updated itself to 10.3.2 and ever since i cant connect the phone to USB (for file transfer -and also all the other options there)

the only working USB function is charging.

i tried to downgrade the phone to 10.3.1, and even back to pie, but it didn't work.

i have drivers correctly installed(file transfer DID work on 10.3.1) and i tried following the manuals and what other people said on other threads, and tried to do the thing with the developer options - USB preferences.

when i connect to USB, i cant even see the USB option in the notification center and the pc wont even recognize it (doesn't show up on device manager as well- not even as an unrecognized device)

(pcs actually(tried it on 6 different pcs..))

did anyone encountered it and managed to fix this?

would like to hear more suggestion and options.

p.s- the phone is NOT rooted.

thanks in advance.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] alws34:
UP

still no solution
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] mchlbenner:
It kindly sounds like you need to reformat your system.

This while everything off your phone.
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] alws34:
i did wipe everything (restored to system defaults- several times- at several different times)
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] migidid:
Usually most simplest solution is just to take all the debris out of the port. The port seems to only charge when not all the pins are in contact. The debris gets in the round corners easily and tricky to get out. I use sharp tweezers and only scrape from the sides so i dont damage the middle pin where all the contacts are! You can scrape pretty hard! Solved multiple cases with this. Does the cable go all the way in and "lock" in place and when locked does not wiggle at all?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] alws34:
yes. the cable is going in all the way and the port is clean
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] rubenswing:
I too was having the same exact problem in March of this year. I tried everything from installing drivers to even using the MSM Tool but nothing worked .. then I did a windows update check for drivers and it installed some drivers for my Oneplus 6t and after that and after that it was recognizing it properly.

P.S. After this incident, when ever I install drivers for my OP 6t I boot windows into recovery settings and from there choose the option which says disable driver enforcement install my OP drivers and reboot back into windows, nvr had a problem since then
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] alws34:
you mean booting into safe mode?

and how do i do that? "disable driver enforcement install my OP drivers"

can you elaborate about the steps to do so? (or attach some guide) please?
[OnePlus 6T  Questions & Answers] rubenswing:
https://windowsreport.com/driver-signature-enforcement-windows-10/
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] BlueMeany68:
Love m20p but the lack of root/roms is giving me itchy feet!

Looking at s20+ or oneplus 7t(pro)

Should I, or should I not? S20+ is obviously a large financial investment, is it worth it?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] x2srj:
I'm one for getting the new models all the time, however, I'm more than happy with this phone, no need to upgrade for me
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] pogi.paul0119:
If you can get without breaking the bank then go. But not the exynos version?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] Aburel18:
I sold my OnePlus 7 pro one moth ago and come back to my mate 20 pro from the drawer . The camera and battery and 3k screen I love it on mate 20 pro . At the end of the day I got 64 procent battery I got wireless charger and finger print. I don't know man but for me the camera is a must. Camera in OnePlus 7 Pro is like a toy . I tried gcam and lots of stuff .

The only problem with mate 20 pro and I miss if from OnePlus is the speaker . They are so tiny I can't watch YouTube.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] BlueMeany68:
Oneplus 8 Pro??
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Questions & Answers] i.adrian:
To be honest, i don't miss the rooting and custom roms that much. Most of the things i did root for or install a custom rom, this phone has it baked in. And i'm coming from 2 Nexus devices.
[Off-topic] mchapman007:
We have seen the threads like; where do you live, what do you do for a living, how old are you, etc...

So now that we know so much about each other, it's time to start expanding our knowledge. Lets see your company's website...

Post your links here and I will start it off:

http://www.3-form.com/

Mid range American company that has expanded into Europe, Asia, and South America.
[Off-topic] burgertime:
Am I allowed to? Mine is of the pornographic level.
[Off-topic] perasite:
http://www.perasite.com

My site, software I write for Windows Mobile phones.

Day job is at a school district...

http://www.somerton.k12.az.us
[Off-topic] jlawre23:
Full Service IT

http://www.ac-its.com
[Off-topic] mohamedtarmohamed:
ultimatemayhem.co.uk

e42m.com

creative-graphics.org.uk

islamicparadise.com
[Off-topic] josefcrist:
IT firm

www.sd7.biz

also my personal site is in my sig.
[Off-topic] orb3000:
Mexican culture

Here´s mine:

http://www.jarocho.net/ingles/show.html

A Mexican spectacular show that will be touring Holland from Oct. 29 to Dec. 7th
[Off-topic] josefcrist:
what is your job with them?
[Off-topic] CraZyLiLbOy:
www.tuffy.com

http://www.bathfitter.com/
[Off-topic] orb3000:
I´m the Communications director

In charge of PR, Selling, Touring, bookings, etc.
[Off-topic] derekwilkinson:
http://dgsuite.com

Web software. I haven't had time to work on it, unfortunately :(
[Off-topic] kdj67f:
http://www.google.com

I am unemployed! :D
[Off-topic] 3aZoOoF:
My company name is : Nawras

It's a telelcommunication company ..

www.nawras.om
[Off-topic] mdow09:
Junior IT

Over here at Southwest Christian School in Texas

http://www.southwestchristian.org/
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bkatee:
When trying to install a rom on my phone I've done something wrong and now my phone won't boot properly it just comes with with a blue no command screen. When trying to boot into recovery it won't do it and it does the same thing. When holding down power and volume up button it comes up with this
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wrichik Basu:
I am using a Samsung Galaxy On7 with Android 6.0.1. Samsung has introduced an option (in the stock ROM) that allows one to store social media app data on SD card. For example, WhatsApp cannot itself write to SD card. When this option is enabled, all WhatsApp data is stored in the external SD card but allowing WhatsApp to access the data at the same time. So virtually WhatsApp can now write to SD card if I enable this option (known as "Memory Saver").

My phone is rooted with Magisk. In the file /proc/mounts, the following three mounts are listed in addition to others:

libunionfs /mnt/runtime/default/emulated/0/WhatsApp fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0

libunionfs /mnt/runtime/read/emulated/0/WhatsApp fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0

libunionfs /mnt/runtime/write/emulated/0/WhatsApp fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0

Interestingly, these are listed only when the Memory Saver option is enabled. When this option is disabled, everything else in that file remains same except that these three vanish. So I guess this has something to do with that option.

Any idea how I can use libunionfs from a terminal emulator (like Termux)? If I paste any of the above three in Termux (with SU privileges granted), it says "Can't find libunionfs".
[Sony Xperia XZ2 Questions & Answers] Trace.Oneil:
Hi,stupid question and probably answered somewhere already but i dont find it. Is there a way to theme the latest Xperia keyboard build? In earlier version i remember that could always choose my layout type and then also choose the key background colour and so on,but this seems to have fallen away.

Is there any way that i can make the keyboard dark with white letters etc without rooting my phone first? I would love to know if there is some way of doing so. Thanks
[Sony Xperia XZ2 Questions & Answers] hotcakes_shinku:
I assume you are talking about the old xperia keyboard that you installed yourself? since the xz2 comes default with swiftkey
[Sony Xperia XZ2 Questions & Answers] Trace.Oneil:
No,im talking about the Chinerge version of the Xperia keyboard. My XZ2 came with Swiftkey and the Xperia keyboard for Chinese and Japanese pre-installed.
[Off-topic] mobileusers:
Hello,

I ditched my canadian plan too and chanched to free.

Free is a globalsim that means you can travel with it in 65 countrys and you don't have to pay any roamingcosts. You can use the plan in this countrys.

Europe: all EU & EEA countries, Channel Islands, Isle of Man, Switzerland, Ukraine, Serbia, Montenegro, Belarus, Macedonia.

Middle East: Israel, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia.

Asia: Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Thailand.

Africa: Algeria, Tunisia, South Africa.

Oceania: Australia, New Zealand.

America: Canada, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina.

Which dataplan do you actually have?:)
[Off-topic] OriCorey:
What plan are you talking about exactly?
[Off-topic] ramunsa:
in US Google FI does similar thing
[Lenovo P2 Questions & Answers] Royal Guard 007:
Hello there

I'm trying to get my P2 into diag mode but even though it's rooted the setprop sys.usb.config diag,adb and setprop sys.usb.config rndis,diag,adb commands don't work. Any idea of how to fix this??
[Lenovo P2 Questions & Answers] church_foster:
Hello did you found a fix? I want to unlock b5 and b28 on mine.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] darthbane2k:
I am absolutely inscensed to discover that HTC are bundling the leather cases with Orange HTC Diamonds.

These are the same cases that people who bought the offline HTC versions were denied.

Furthermore, you cannot buy the case seperately now - its sold out everywhere. Expansys for example say it will be a month before they source any more.

I cannot leave my touch in my pocket without a case. :mad: