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[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
So many inpatient people. I've had nothing but good experience with them since the OnePlus 3 days. One of my phones required an out of warranty fix. Less than $80 and less than 2 weeks and was back in business (camera failed). The few times I've had to reach out to support no issues.

People willing to spend $1,000 on a smart phone and lose their mind over $100 of accessories on a LIMITED early release is laughable at best. :eek:
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xkape:
Says the guy who got the phone and the free accessories.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
I mean, says the guy who got 2 right? Lol. And it's not the entire story here. If you read the thread you would get it. Go find the Reddit and OP threads about it. The phone is too much money to begin with and the freebies allowed people to justify spending more on it. Now I will not be, especially because I want the base model and it only comes in GREEN, for some god forsaken reason.

But again GRATS ON YOUR 2 BLUE ONES!!!
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] spotmark:
No need for infighting. I'm happy for the people who were able to order one today, BUT, there is no doubt, OnePlus screwed the pooch with today's launch.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Yeah I did read the thread. Simply put this is a OP8 section. If you have interest in actually buying the phone go ahead and buy it and welcome to this section of the forum. OP makes some kick ass devices I've owned multiple ones before.

However, if you want to spend less and want an older OP device or some other cheaper phone then go in that section. Plenty just coming on over just to sit here and whine about how either you feel the phone isn't worth the money or you want to cry about how you missed the short purchasing window ....well simply put...TOUGH LOVE. Go find another device that suits your budget and needs in a phone.

As for those who wanted to get one today, sorry if you didn't prepare properly to purchase it at the set time. I had a good idea this was going to sell out stupid fast. I was prepared to not get it in time despite being ready to rock and roll at 12PM EST. If that was the case I would have said it is what it is. My current device works for me and I'll wait a few weeks. If you watched the reveal it clearly went over what was available and when. Anyways, let the whiners keep trolling up the thread. After seeing all the complaining I just wanted to add fuel to the fire and share my OP8 Pro purchase in an OP8 Pro section to play along and to basically answer the OP's question of "who's getting one?"

I can only speak for my own scenario why the OP8 Pro works for us (based on specs and what reviews I've read/watched). Her OP6 and my OP6T are "okay" as cameras with GCam but it's no flagship. My wife and I have a newborn (3 month old) and we wanted a phone that can definitely shoot an excellent photo in the moment. We figured it'd be cheaper to buy a DSLR but it's certainly not convenient to have one readily available at all times and better off having a quality phone that can take care of what we need. We love the OP phones and with the 8 Pro it seems the camera fits the bill. Memories of the baby are priceless so worthy investment. :good:
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
Just gonna give this a big LOL.

Countdown, 3, 2, 1, 0. Click buy, go to checkout screen, check my info, click pay now, or whatever the last step was...message comes up SOLD OUT. look down at clock, 12:00:25.

Literally 25 seconds. GTFO of here with your not being prepared BS. I'll whine as much as I want about this horribly unclear, botched, deceptively marketed launch.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] 2015Ducatimulti:
I was able to get a 8 pro blue ordered around 12:54 pm, but I had to remove the free bundle so I only got the phone.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xkape:
interesting. I actually wondered about that about that at one point myself. I tried removing them but then the screen refreshed and they were back lol
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
I'll add this rather productive picture to the discussion. Carry on folks...:cool:

EDIT: On a serious note, I noticed OP now collecting sales tax (didn't do that back in 2018).
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xkape:
cool pic bro. done feeding the troll.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] 2015Ducatimulti:
yeah I wasn`t worried about the accessories, I have plenty of wireless chargers and I never use the earbuds. mine says it should ship 21st for delivery of the 23rd
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Ippolito1971:
? Thanks man. They're all beasts. I've owned every release since the 5t except the 7t/pro. 7pro was my last (almond). Currently on a SGN10+ so the OP8P will be a nice addition to the current dailys
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
Your wireless charger will charge that phone at 5 watts, just so you know, if you didn't already comb through the youtube reviews. You need the 70 dollar Oneplus charger to charge it at full speed.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] masri1987:
that makes sense, the brick has to be able to provide the wattage needed. but why wouldn't they provide it with teh wireless charger
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
It's the same as their wired charging, it'll work with a regular one but go extremely slow. I buy the performance aspect of their charging somewhat but a lot of it is just forcing people to buy their first part accessories.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Cozzeck:
So looking at the supported bands, am I reading it correctly that at&t, sprint and Verizon 5g bands are not supported?!?!
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] 2015Ducatimulti:
yeah I knew I needed the expensive one if i wanted to warp charge over wireless, but have the 15 watt samsung chargers one next to my bed , which can charge overnight, and at work next to my computer, which most of time sits on it as a stand at work, I`m just happy that it has wireless charging.:good:
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] headcreepz:
Got mine being delivered April 22nd. Love my 7 pro but I had the cash so why not.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xkape:
On the One Plus website, it does say that. I read an article though yesterday that stated they have some kind of exclusive with Verizon to cover their CDMA-less nanowave 5g bands as well.

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i don't think i can post links here but i used the google to find an article.. headline of it..

The fastest OnePlus 8 5G variant is an exclusive with Verizon

The OnePlus 8 5G UW variant will support Verizon's super-fast, but super-short range version of 5G.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Cozzeck:
Thanks, well they should change the unlocked version name to OnePlus 8 Pro T-Mobile 5g
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] PioneerDC:
Just got mine ?
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] spotmark:
Well, this made my mind up for me. https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-8-and-oneplus-8-pro-5g-carriers-explained

I'm not going to pay for a 5g phone that can't get 5g and I refuse to buy a locked down phone directly from Verizon. Looks like I'm waiting until the new Pixels come out in October.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Goronok:
It will be a long time before unlocked phones are able to access 5G, I think. Carriers are being super picky about which devices can access it and 5G band support on each device is all over the place. Too many different frequencies involved - I won't be surprised if the new Pixels do not support 5G.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Batfink33:
In the US?
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] spotmark:
You may be right, but given Google's partnership with Verizon, I'm thinking even their unlocked ones will work on the VZW 5g network. We'll find out in the coming months, and if they don't, OnePlus will probably be rolling out the 8T by then anyway.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Goronok:
Yeah, speaking for the US. Sorry to confuse.

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Very true
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] gaww:
Where did you see these prices ,?
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] spotmark:
It may be cheap, but it sure is a damn ugly phone. I think I'd keep my mask on if I had one of those. :p
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] vyp54:
Is there an OP8 alternative? A rootable high end spec phone in 2020.? Some of you mentioning Pixel 5? Anything else up on the radar?
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] t-mizzle:
Not really, that's why I SETTLED for Oneplus. At a quick glance, there are dozens of phones that have the same essentials as OP8P, some of them a lot cheaper. However, as soon as you factor in unlockable bootloaders, good Android skins and timely updates, OP8P is the only choice.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] vyp54:
I think I am about to settle on 2020. Black Friday. Still rocking the OP3. If I could wait until now, I can wait some more. :silly:
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
I'll be taking a close look at the Motorola Edge plus. I loved my Moto X Pure back in the day and this is a genuine flagship. Interested to see what it looks like when reviewed.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] t-mizzle:
Smart move. I had to emergency buy a phone at the end of last year, got a pixel 3a, in my rush to get a phone I didn't see it was locked to T-Mobile so I a have a paperweight each time I leave the country. Didn't like paying as much, don't care for ip ratings as I keep my phones away from water and don't really care for wireless charging. There are OEM's that cater only essentials and keep prices low but like I said, as soon as you want clean Android skins and unlocked bootloader, those choices are gone. I hope we see more phones doing the right thing but it doesn't look good.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
I'm glad there are still sensible people out there that hold on to their phones for a few years. Not to lay a guilt trip on anyone here (well, maybe a little, lol) but nature seems to be some of the last concerns for many. I got my 6T in December of 2018 (which was an upgrade from my OnePlus One that still serves a purpose today) and it's in mint condition, running everything I throw at it and has excellent (development) support. I'll probably be on the lookout for another device at the end of 2021 or somewhere in 2022. One reason being the investment must truly be worth the upgrade and the other being the concern for nature. Fortunately, economic motivations often compliment ecological ones. As Fairphone has made pretty amazing progress so far, I'd strongly consider one. Let's see what version 4 will bring. One major aspect that's holding me back is lack of development on here. Too bad all the rockstar devs focus only on the rockstar devices :silly:

About the 8 Pro: I very much like the punch hole design choice as it's pretty hilarious when you use some strategically selected wallpapers with apps like Hidey Hole (which probably won't work with OP but you get the gist). I think the price is fair but it's a shame to see that OnePlus has become everything they were fighting against back in 2014. They should probably change their motto to #FinallySettled with a 'flagship to be killed' :p

I am also very much disappointed in their movement away from open development. Especially after mostly development communities made them so great. So probably no more OnePlus for me in the end. Just my €0.02 :)
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] sharingan5791:
I'm not sure yet. I'm still on the fence. I currently have a Pixel 4xl and I'm more interested in seeing what Samsung is gonna do with the Note 20 and Fold 2. But the Pro is definitely suppose to be their flagship phone. Don't understand why people are mad about the price. To compete with other companies you have to throw in more features and tech. And the more you do, the more it will cost for consumers. If you want a cheap $600 OP phone buy an older model then.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] vyp54:
I never heard of Fairphone before so thanks for this. Unfortunately their actual Fairphone 3 doesn't seem like an upgrade to my, now, 4 year old OP3 let alone the OP8 and the team. But I will follow these guys because I really dig the philosophy. Just like I appreciated Oneplus back in the day (flagship killer never settle mantra).

I see guys here arguing if it's worth the upgrade from 7T and then there's me still not convinced if it's worth from a 3(not even T). People can do with their money as they wish but since i keep my phones for 4 years, now I'd really like a 5G phone with all the right specs. Made a crap decision with the Galaxy S3 at the time which was not 4G so when 4G came I felt like having a Nokia 3310.

OP was so cool back in the day when I bought the 3 and people thought I had some chinese connector (usb C) because their latest Samsung was still rocking usb B. Or when people started justifying spending serious cash on their fast chathing phones in 2019. LoL I had that in 2016.

To me the old OP is gone. I could easily go with a brand new the 7(T) if it was 5G. The 8 is just a downpriced Find X2 and that would be fine if the most expensive X2 was €/$1000 and the top OP8 was €/$800. But its €/$1200 for the X2 and €/$1000 for the OP8. Oppo is just entering European market and OP radically changed their target audiance with this pricing. Time will tell if both companies made the right choice but even a toddler would beg to differ taken the corona situation into account.

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ZTE (nubia) threw a lot of features (and then some) at their Red Magic 5 and the price is not nearly close to OP8. Oneplus 8 Pro is almost (if not) inferior to Red Magic 5 in every way. I'd pull the trigger on Red Magic 5 tomorrow if it was waterproof. I don't even need a gaming phone because I don't play games but do use my phone on my motorcycle/bike all the time (also in the rain) and Red Magic 5 with its actice cooling might just be the worst phone for that.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] crzycrkr:
I wanted the green, but they don't offer it with 12gb RAM
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] c00LhaNd:
My old mobile phone contract ends so I ordered a Galaxy S20 Ultra with an Unlimited LTE contract a few days ago...

I didn't realized that OnePlus releases a new phone until yesterday... :eek:

So I canceled the S20 Ultra order today and pre ordered the 12GB RAM/256GB OnePlus 8 Pro in ultramarine blue (in Germany the 256GB version is only avalible in green an blue ...) . :victory:
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] vyp54:
So…some of you were justifying the new insane price due to 5G, IP rating, awesome screen and whatnot. China prices are out and they are €130 - €180 lower than in EU/US. I think you have to be brain dead to think the transport and import costs that much per unit.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] jericho246:
Yeah but also no. If you're implying only OnePlus does this, Huawei P40/P40 Pro, Mate 30/30 Pro Xiaomi Mi 10/10 Pro are also cheaper in China.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] c00LhaNd:
Now calculate the import fees, taxes, shipping costs, higher wages than in China ... et voilà there are your 130-180€ more costs in Europe. ;)
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xchatter:
Then how do you calculate the lower price in US compared to Europe? 1000$ != 1000EUR. Your formula does not apply.

Also about why in China it is cheaper, I agree with you that taxes and shipping costs affect the price. However the wages have nothing to do with the price. There is no company on earth which considers the wages and lowers the price if the wages are low. Take for example my country - Bulgaria. The wages are far far lower than in Germany or other Europe countries. however the price is the same.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] spotmark:
Oh, boy. I had resigned myself to waiting for the new Pixels in October and now this. Do I want to put myself through this again?
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
You are spot on, my Bulgarian friend! The only actual difference between regions are (import) taxes. Shipping fees are close to a few cents per device for companies like this. It's pretty much similar for distribution costs.

For most European countries taxes (VAT) are about 20%. USA doesn't apply VAT but does have sales tax, which varies wildly per state. In Washington you'd pay 18.78% on a cell phone but in Oregon it's only 1.84%. On average it's 10.6%, yet the price of a specific device like the OP8Pro is the same in the entire USA. This would indeed make a difference of roughly €100 but things get really complicated if you factor in all sorts of import and taxation laws (I gave up on my research, honestly). I think the main takeaway here is that a multinational like OnePlus (owned by the second largest phone manufacturer in the world) abuses these complex calculations to artificially pump up its prices. Of course, this is exactly the same for companies like Samsung, Huawei, Xiaomi, LG, Lenovo and – probably the worst of all – 'that piece of fruit with a chunk bitten out of it' ;)

There's one interesting observation here: looking back at my receipt for the 6T, it states "Shipping: € 0,00 VAT: € 0,00". I see the same with EU 8 Pro purchases like in this post and this one. However, this posts shows a USA purchase with about 7.6% tax and 0.45% shipping cost. So it's fair after all? I'm confused :eek:

Anyhow, we can all find these prices very unfortunate but as long as people keep paying, they will keep juggling these prices around.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xchatter:
Good observations!

Another thing which I noticed is that for example some countries like US get the freebies which makes the overall price even lower for them. I've made my purchase as one of the first users after the announcement and for my region there were no freebies only a "chance" to win the charger. I even contacted OnePlus support and asked them about this because it felt unfair. They told me that they will get back to me in a day or two but never did.

I was going to get the device anyway(probably not right after the announcement) but when I saw the promotions I went ahead immediately. In the end the freebies are only for some favorable regions because the market is big there. The reality is that no one cares for small markets.

I will enjoy my device, no problem. :) I just would appreciate if OnePlus is a little bit more straight-forward and announce that they will do a promotion on certain places only and not make it look like a global thing. That's all. :)

P.S.

If someone around here(BG) got the device with the freebies, please correct me but I couldn't and also I checked several times after my order to see if it would be possible for future orders but it was a negative again.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] johanveld:
My opinion.

First of all. OnePlus is just a company that wants to make money . They will just ask the price that they think they can get away with.

It will lose them some costumers. But it is easier for a company to sell 1000 phones at 100 profit then 2000 for 50 profit.

I also think it is not a bad price. The prices in the Netherlands for different base model phones are; mi 10 Pro 1000, find x2 pro 1200, s20 ultra 1300.

So 900 for the base model 8 Pro is a normal price, it is a full (almost) no compromise flagship like the others. And most important of all great software. It's more than what we are used to form OnePlus. The phone market is different now. Most people are willing to pay more for a phone now.

I am happy to pay 1000 euro for my OnePlus 8 Pro. I will hopefully be using it for the next 2 years. Around 4 hours a day.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xchatter:
True, it's just business.

They try to benefit as much as possible and we also try to get the most for our money. So run away from S20 Ultra Exynos and get the Oneplus 8 Pro now! :D
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] xgerryx:
You should delete this, and I'll delete this comment, and tell no one.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] spotmark:
Lol. I debated that, but I'd be happy for anybody here who got one. It's the jomokes who just buy them to have the latest phone and have no idea about modding who I begrudge.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] mcwarre:
Oops - good spot it is 12GB / 256GB......
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] a.2mjed.a:
Excuse my English, it's my second language and I'm trying my best :D

I have OP6 right now and would like to upgrade to 8 Pro. Found it in china around $870 [Chinese version (model IN2020)].

So, $870 + VAT (around $43) = $913 (free shipping)

From what I know the only difference is the software/ROM. They are installing the global firmware.

My question is: Are there any real differences between the US and CH versions?

I'm also thinking of waiting for the 8T as they always do around in October!!

Thanks in advance
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Two things...

1.) Likely no warranty

2.) No Google play services because China.

I don't follow it that much their market but I remember in the past they had HydrogenOS for that market so slightly different OS.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] a.2mjed.a:
I've never needed the warranty, so no big deal for me. :cool:

Regarding the Google play services, that's also why they installing the global firmware.

So basically I'm okay.

Do you recommend to upgrade from 6 to 8 Pro or should I wait for their new release (8T)? :cyclops:
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Nosferatu.:
Warranty good if hardware defect after purchase so if you can justify saving some money versus that risk go for it .

As for worth upgrading that's a personal decision. No one "needs" a phone of this price. My wife is upgrading from a 6 and I am from a 6T.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
What I've learned about OnePlus so far is that if they keep an open mind to modding, it's only on their international versions. In this case there's a chance that you will have to resort to modding in order to achieve a few basic things. Once you start doing this, you'll likely end up in a world of pain wishing you paid more for the international version. Ask most T-Mobile 6T owners :D

It would surely be a nice upgrade from the 6 but as that one launched at $529 (pretty much half price), don't expect the 8 Pro to be double its value.

If I was in your stead, I'd wait a few more weeks and do a lot of reading to learn more first.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Cyph3r92:
They are selling the 8 Pro for the equivalent of ~700 EUR in China. EU countries typically have VAT in the 20% range - so you can add 140 EUR right there.

8 Pro is 899 EUR in the EU, so after VAT China pricing is ~59 EUR cheaper. Then add the cost of logistics for selling outside of their home market which would include exporting, further business taxes, additional staff etc. Let's reasonably assume these costs add up to 20-30 EUR per unit.

So at the end China, OnePlus' home market, is getting the 8 Pro 30-40 EUR cheaper than the EU. Consider the discrepency in average purchasing power across regions and this seems well within the norms of regional pricing.
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] cultofluna:
You're upgrading?...

Im tempted to go for the pro..
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] Timmmmaaahh!:
Oh no, no no no. https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-8-pro/help/whos-getting-one-t4075335/post82301437#post82301437

My 6T is still rockin' CoD Mobile smoothly. I just stumbled into the convo ^_^
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] cultofluna:
I'll probably go for the 8pro...
[OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers] steiner.ch@gmail.com:
I will upgrade to OP8 pro from my OP6 which is my daily driver since exactly 2 years. Still ? it but screen cracked on the back now... Now ordered OP8 pro, should arrive by 2nd of May ???