yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
Just got mine. Love it under 6.1. RF level is about 1 to 2 bars higher in 3G than my tilt.

Has anyone tried to install HTC Home on it? I have it installed but it won't display. I am using version 2.1
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] netnerd:
you need to cancel and relist your item.

i tried to bid, but it said i need paypal account linked to ebay!

but my paypal is linked to ebay already! it still wont let me bid.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] CrozB:
Hmmm fixed it... No idea why it was doing that.

-D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] irv777:
You have to use an earlier version....I use to have it on my today screen but I cant remember which version I had....unfortunately the newer version doesn't work....

I'm actually using Samsungtime.cab on my today screen at the moment.....more simpler and takes less space on the today screen....it is just like the Samsung I780 clock screen.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
Okay..I will look for the Samsung one - don't think I have seen it.

I have another issue with MS Voice Command not working - crashes the phone. I like MS VC better since I don't have the 'teach' the phone anything.

Any tips on that?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] irv777:
Here is a screen shot of the Samsung time on the today screen, you can change it to analog or digital and the clock colour can also be changed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
I tried it and when back to the HTC Home (Found an older version). I like the HTC one since it gives me the picture contacts, Weather, Applications, Profiles and Media all in one place. I installed the "Diamond" clock plug-in also.

So far so good. The only real problem I am having with this phone is the earpiece volume is pretty low. Hopefully iMate will resolved that with a ROM update.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] irv777:
I noticed with this rom (WM 6.1) the ear piece volume is actually a bit louder than the WM6.0....so i'm quite happy.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
I never ran 6.0 since I flashed to 6.1 once I got it. I have to tell you that if this is louder, I would hate to have heard 6.0. This is much lower in audio than by TYTN II or my Blackjack. I hope iMate works on the level some more.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Sab3elbromba:
Updated !!

It worked !! I've finally updated my phone to WM 6.1 and I must say the difference is huge, the phone is faster has more RAM and has all the extras of WM 6.1 definitely worth the risk, but thank god it worked for me 1st attempt, seems the problems occurs with Vista, but I'm using XP :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cloisonne:
You are lucky...I got EUM error at the first try and I thought it was bricked =/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jmone:
I also recon 6.1 is much quieter than 6.0...and it was not that loud in the first place.....

That being said this is the only thing I've found with this ROM that is a backward step - this new ROM really makes the 9502 a no-fuss phone.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
My reference was to the 8502; with a mixed thread hear it gets a bit confusing. Glad to hear everything is stable. Hopefully any 'official' ROM will swat any remaining bugs.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joedm:
Well I had an online chat with a support person from imate. I needed to get the code to flash to the beta rom and I asked when the official rom would be released and the answer was September. So given that it will be about 3 months in between beta and official, hopefully there'll be more improvements.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] osprey23:
Can you check if GeoTagging is available with the new ROM?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
Hey - At leas they gave you a date. I had heard folks around here saying that iMate told them August. I got rid of my TYTN II when I got the 8502. Overall I am not sorry I made the switch. The RF performance and video speeds on the 8502 are much better than the TYTN II (and i was running hacked ROMS on the TYTN II).

Thanks for sharing your info; let's hope it pans out.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
Video speed may be better than TYTN II (roms and all) but its pretty poor compared to other devices such as i780 or Diamond. I am pleased i did the upgrade but I wish i could sell this device.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joedm:
Yeah I think a lot of us were sorry initially...

I myself was quite upset as my 9502 was almost unusable.

However that all change since the new ROM.

Now I am enjoying the new found usability of my device.

I now have push email, bluetooth with Voice Commander 1.6, tomtom 7, operamini, camera all working satisfactorily and with good speed, most likely due to the increased available memory.

This is how I envisaged it would be.

Now if imate can fix the following, I'll be a real happy chappy:

1) Battery drain

2) Remove Telstra crap

3) Voip.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
This is because of Opera 9.5 Beta, nothing to do with the I-Mate ROM.

I am annoyed that the update has been pushed back to September when they have been telling people all along that it'll be mid-August. I'm not sure if I can deal with the poor radio until then. I need to receive calls!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cloisonne:
Opera 9.5 good? I used java version Opera.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joaomendes:
opera mobile 9.5 is the best browser around :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
It's a great browser, but turns off all your notifications randomly (even when Opera isn't launched). Don't nstall it until a new version is released.

eDIT: just checked Opera forums and a new build is out which fixes the bug on some handsets. I'm going to try it now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
please post the link
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
http://www.opera.com/download/mobil...based devices only - Last updated: 29.07.2008

Seems to have worked.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] roriii:
how to go back on wm 6.0

hi guy s is there any way to go back on wm 6.0 on imate 9502 after upgrading for

6.1 telstra 1.73 rom if someone could help me thanks...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
Sent this to Clove now after somewhat of a stressful weekend made much worse by the 9502.

"Dear Clove,

You'll be pleased to know that I got the switching off problem with my 9502 fixed with a software update by an I-Mate service center.

However, the 'phone' function is still terrible. It spends most of the day sat in my pocket with no signal because there is a bug in the ROM whereby it won't search for signal until it is awoken. This is a known bug present on every device and is well documented in the I-Mate forums. I-Mate customer support is basically non-existant and give conflicting information about software updates to different customers, and even go so far as censoring their website to prevent workarounds.

I was unfortunate enough to have been involved in a car chase yesterday which involved calling 999 several times. Firstly I had to wait around a minute for signal before the first call because of the aforementioned bug, and then thanks to the general instability had to spend about 3 minutes resetting mid-chase so I could make another call to 999. The police then struggled to get hold of me for the remainder of the weekend due to almost never having signal.

This really brought to my attention how unfit for purpose the device is as a telephone to the extent of being dangerous, and on these grounds I would like to request a refund. Usually I can sit it out and wait for software updates, but it's been almost 3 months now and I-Mate seem completely uninterested in ensuring that my £400 telephone can even receive calls. I'm sure you understand, especially given how it predictably let me down to complete the most basic of functions at the worst possible time literally putting my life in danger.

I should mention that I am 3 weeks away from completing my fifth and final year of legal training, so I am fully aware that I am entitled to a refund on these grounds under s.14(2) of the Sale of Goods Act 1979 regarding fitness for purpose, and specifically s. 14 (2B) (c) regarding freedom from minor defects.

I appreciate that it has been some time since I purchased the device, but I did bring this matter to your attention before the device was repaired under your instruction the first time within a reasonable time, and it has come back with the same issue. Further 9502 users have been constantly provided false hope from I-Mate subduing me from requesting a refund earlier, but I don't think I can reasonably be expected to wait any longer for a software fix.

As a student, and thus having no real income, £400 was a lot of money to spend on what has turned out to be a very fancy, but utterly useless brick. I'm sure as fellow gadget enthusiasts you appreciate why this is so unacceptable and warrants a refund, particularly given the events of this weekend.

I still have the box and accessories, and the handset is in exceptional condition given the time I have owned it.

I would consider exchanging the device for one of a similar specification which functions to an acceptable level.

I look forward to hearing from you soon,

Sincerely

Michael Booth."
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
Wow -What a mess. Gotta say, except for earpiece volume, the 8502 has been simply exceptional.

Good luck with this; maybe iMate will come clean with some real information.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] netnerd:
maybe he' a defective device. i have a Imate 9502 with 6.1 with no major complains! earpiece volume is a bit low, and take too long for 1st GPS fix, but i can live with it.

my phone never turn off by itself, and it always have signals if i set it to AUTO.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jmone:
I've also got to say my 9502 is a whole new phone with 6.1 - I've no complaints except for the eariece volume being way to soft now....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
It is definately a software bug as it has no problem getting signal when it's 'awake', but I travel about a lot and frequently pass through areas where there is no signal. The problem is that it won't search for the signal again until it's awoken.

It's a pretty well documented bug here, on the I-Mate forum and on PPCSG amoung other places. I've read about other XDA-Dev users who have returned their 9502's for this very reason.

Mine has the 6.1 upgrade also and still does it. In fact, since the upgrade it has got worse as it has a new trick: even if there is excellent Vodafone signal, the international roaming icon (the triangle) pops up and it jumps on to O2 for no apparent reason. It's really odd.

Edit: I am yet to determine if this as an issue that only affects UK users.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I don't know if it would be feasible, regarding battery drain, but have you ever considered leaving your phone on whilst travelling? I mean, the backlight could be set to the lowest level, and all hardware keys (except the power button) might be locked. Bluetooth and WiFi would be off. A new profile, perhaps? Other tricks you might know to preserve battery power, for whenever you are in such a state?

Just a thought...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
That is a good suggestion - didn't really think of that. I wouldn't imagine it'd work too well with the battery though. It'd use a fair bit to keep the backlight on and I guess the CPU would be going a fair bit more keeping the display on which would drain it even faster. The battery isn't great anyway. It'd probably make it awkward to use too, having to change the brightness all the time. For £400 it's really unacceptable.

It's just occurred to me why my battery seems ok when other people are complaining: My 9502 is essentially sat in my pocket without any radio going most of the day because of this bug so will use considerably less power.

I have had subsequent emails from Clove who say they're more than happy to test the unit themselves before sending it to I-Mate again. I'm a bit concerned because:

a) This means further weeks without a telephone.

b) The service centres are all down South where weak signal seems less of an issue, so unless the engineers use my phone for a couple of days and travel around with it constantly they will be unable to replicate the problem :( Not so good for us northern monkeys.

Honestly, 3 of my friends are considering HTC Touch Pro's from Clove as they are cheaper than Expansys and seem to be receiving new devices sooner nowadays, but it completely depends on how Clove handle my complaint. It'd be much easier for them just to accept the problem, sell me a different phone and seek a refund from I-Mate themselves.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Flashing first and registering at i-Mate or otherwise?

Hi all,

I shall receive my i-Mate 9502 within days. Based on what I read here, I plan to flash this ROM as soon as I receive it. Nevertheless, I'm not sure whether the i-Mate services (i-Customs & i-Secure) would detect a different ROM if I register my device later.

Otherwise, would it be better to register first, then flash? Even in this case, wouldn't there be any problems on the first login afterwards?

Any advices on this matter?

Thanks, anyway.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mbuena:
Has anyone else had issues obtaining their ROM Unlock code from the Imate website? I've registered my device etc and all I get is N/A.

I've tried the online support but I've been asked to wait a bit longer for the website to update, that was a week ago now still the same N/A.

I dont have my unlock code on my box or manuals etc that came with the phone.

Anyone else have this problem?

Cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joedm:
i just used the chat on the imate website and the support person was able to get my rom unlock code while i waited.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
Did they happen to shed any light as to when we might see the official 6.1 ROM for the 8502?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
HELP - No RADIO After Hard Reset

I flashed the 6.1 ROM and all seemed fine. I just did a hard reset and all of a sudden I have NO WORKING RADIOS. When it first did the reset I saw the 3G icon but as it ran the defualt IMATE install it dissapeared and i can see no networks whatsoever. So I reinstalled the new ROM. Now, whereas the first time I installed the 6.1 ROM I kept my old splash screen, now I have the TELSTRA splash screen. I have set network selection to manual but see absolutely no networks now.

Can anyone advise what has happened here and how to fix it?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ericjm:
a little bit off-topic but how about for 8150? any development for 6.1?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mandingo:
Where are you located?

You probably have already tried this but just in case ...

Settings - Personal - Phone - Preferred Mode (you have to scroll the tabs over to see this choice) - Please Select Preferred Band - (< pick your continent: EU, AU or US >)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
iMate 8502 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NU4R6EWA

iMate 9502 : http://rapidshare.com/files/129807567/Ultimate_9502_V.01.73_NO_CP.rar.html[/QUOTE]

Hi, Ia have i-mate ultimate 9502. How can verify if is possible instal this ROM without any "crack"? Thank Tony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Quatre:
thanks. remember seeing someone say that you had to change this back to US after updating to 6.1 but forgot and didn't know where to find it. also mine was already in 3.6 economy mode which i guess is fine for using 3g. only wifi will make use of speed of the 7.2mpbs mode
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ekerbuddyeker:
when i returned to my home country it worked again.

Heres something else useful. If you dont like the PHONE black boring look you can change it to a more grpahical one. Use Schapps advanced settings and DISABLE the phone menue and it changes it to a much nicer standard WM6 version that is also more useable.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mandingo:
Does the "lock screen during call" option still work with the standard dialer?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dogmaster:
Hi,

I was browsing and was very glad to bump into this thread. I have download the file and very tempted to upgrade...:)

one question before I put myself in any trouble...is the upgrade Region or Country Specific...does it work for Singapore?

Apology if the question sound silly, as I am not very techy but I am quite frustrated with the phone already...so thot of taking one last straw before i junk it away...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ninarob:
rSAP with a 9502??

OK, this might be pie in the sky, but has anyone tried getting a 9502 working with a bluetooth hand-free kit that requires an rSAP profile on the phone (Ala VW et al...)?? :eek:

I've heard that there are hacks for older HTC units, but the only phones that are now available off the shelf with this profile (I think) are the Nokias.

I'm still using the original 6.0 ROM FWIW.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] umit_1:
Hey

Just got an 9502 how do i tell what software i've got ?

settings/about:

windows mobile 6 pro (should this say 6.1 if it is 6.1?)

ce os 5.2.1623 build 18129.0.4.5

is this rom still an update to my current version ?

thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Telstra's beta ROM shows CE OS 5.2.19585 (Build 19585.1.1.2). I have flashed it right after receiving my 9502, for what I haven't checked its settings beforehand, but yours, most probably, refers to the stock ROM.

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] umit_1:
thanks Carlos, yeah tempted to flash it but also trying to hold off at this stage until its officially released, so far its working fine for me, well until i get hold of an 8gb micro sdhc.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mbuena:
I've tried live support they just keep telling me to email the support mailbox which I have had no response from in 4-5 weeks. Everytime I get on support now they just keep ending the session so they wont have to help.

Any ideas for esculating this further? Live support and the support mailbox seems to be as useless as this device. I've had this 8GB SDHC card for ages now and I still cant use. it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] xriddle:
Man I love this phone ... wish rom development was faster or at least cookable.

Anyone else have an 8502 and tcpmp wont work anymore. Was working with stock rom.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] orbi69:
hi guys, need some help here.....aft i flash to the wm6.1...am unable to select com 9 under hardware for external GPS under setting. every time when i select com 9 and click ok, when return...it will go back to (None)...hence am unable to get my mapking to log on the GPS.......:confused:

Any kind soul here can enlighten me....TIA.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
I have my "Start > Settings > System tab >External GPS" settings this way:

"Programs" tab set to "COM9";

"Hardware" tab set to "(none)" and

"Access" tab has "Manage GPS automatically (recommended)" ticked.

GoogleMaps is able to find the GPS without problems.

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] orbi69:
Hi Carlos,

aft doing a hard reset and reinstall my mapking...manage to get the GPS working....am now a happy man using the 9502....thx.:D:D:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
My 9502 was sent to Clove 2 weeks and 1 day ago. They finally contacted I-Mate yesterday. I can't see me getting it back for quite some time. I really just want a refund or to replace it with a Touch Pro as I think the 9502 is a bad product.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Hi Mike,

I have never experienced any of the singal losses whist in standby mode you've reported. Have you checked if it would be restricted to the UK, i.e. if you've got to talk to other britsh 9502 users, or even if your device was faulty?

For me the 9502 is simply superb! I'm really enjoying it ! Coming from an HTC Universal, the only things I miss (but it's a matter of time, I guess), are the bigger screen (but not as bright as the 9502's) and the much bigger keyboard.

Perhaps if you tried another one...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] johnyb_v:
Voice Call Volume

Is there any workarround for the voice call volume?

I can't start the camera as well....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
For the camera issue, I wonder if you have any keyboard remapping application, like PQzII, running. If so, either exit that application right before starting the camera, or copy multikeyhook.cpl to \Windows, soft reset, and enable Mulit Key Hook at Start > Settings > System tab.

All credits go to tom_hiro255 for finding this out. Thanks, Tom!

Hope it might help you too...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] www.xda-developers.com:
Readme? What readme?

Where can we get the readme file? Or can someone paste it here?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ACEPL:
Hi ,

Installed 1.73 ROM. All seemed good. On booting it locks up in the password response screen. Soft reset returns to the same screen. What buttons can I press in combination to do a HARD RESET? I can not access the menu option. Please advise
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ACEPL:
Green Key is 13.

Power is 24.

What is "Fn" Button - Is it meant to be 12?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] goranicus:
One question about the GPS.

Oziexplorer and Navitel are working great with the new rom. But iGO8 is freezing the phone when activating the GPS.

I have to use a workarround with gpsgate and then everything works fine.

Is there any way to use iGO8 without gpsgate ? I have tryed to play with the setting in sys.txt (and system.ini) but without success so far.

I use the latest iGO 8.0.0.44898 from 26.06.2008, with older versions the same problem exists.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mike freegan:
Still got nowhere with my return. Sent it to Clove Technology for investigation on 6th August (which they made me pay for I might add - £10 recorded delivery). Called up a week later (13th August) and was told "we didn't know which service centre you sent it to last time so we didn't do anything". Why not just call me/email me and ask me rather than prolonging the time I have to spend without my phone?

Told them which service centre it went to last time and they promised they'd send it off immediately.

Just over a week later (20th August) and still nothing so I call up again: "We've been trying to contact you for more details but your emails have been bouncing so we still haven't sent it." Immediately the guy realises that this is because they have been emailing the hotmail account I use for things likely to send me spam (and therefore used for signing up for Clove product updates) rather than the Gmail account that I have used in all other correspondance with them and that I put on the RMA form. The guy noticed this immediately, was pleasent and apologised. Even so, they knew their emails weren't getting through and sat there doing nothing for a week rather than looking at the RMA form to verify the email address or calling me.

Again, promised it would be sent immediately and that I should expect contact from I-Mate asking for more details.

6 days later (26th August) and still heard nothing. Call up again. "It's been sent to I-Mate now with one of their top guys looking at it". "It was sent on the 23rd so should have got to them yesterday". So it took 3 more days to post the return, knowing that I had been waiting for them to do it for 2 weeks already.

This really is tragic. I really wish I'd forked out the extra £10 and got it from Expansys, or better still - not bought one.

Surely, after all of this and having sent it away before (so 5 weeks with no phone altogether) it wouldn't be unreasonable for me to expect a refund/exchange? I almost feel like they've purposely delayed me in the hopes that I-Mate will come out with a software fix in the meantime.