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[Xposed General] enetec:
If so, why do close my bug reports and ban me? :confused:

When doing development it may happen to arrive at a point that to go ahead it is needed to break some "old compatibility"...

BUT a good developer state *clearly* this, explain the reasons of this choice and don't try to hidden eventual issues because of the change.

This time insted we have had:

- real bugs neglected;

- a ridicolous try to find in Riru v.22 as the culprit;

- a request for a last good stable v.0.4.6.x (trivial to do probably...) negate without any reason given;

- when demonstrated clearly that issues were related to android_r releases and not to Riru v.22, again another bug report closed and me banned to have reported it.

More: is totally undocumented to users that latest android_r versions works *only* with Riru v.22 and no more with v. 21 (no back compatibility at all...).

v.0.5.0.6 4562 works only with v.21 and v.0.5.0.6 4569 works only with v.22... Where is stated this?

This not to mention that last 17 releases (4570 to latest 4586...) ALL bootloops on most Android P devices, as reported by many (& not only by me...).

Sorry but this is *not even close* to a good (& serious)

way to do development.... :rolleyes:

Anyway, just look and make your own opinion.... ?

https://github.com/ElderDrivers/EdXposed/issues/689

https://github.com/ElderDrivers/EdXposed/issues/693

https://github.com/ElderDrivers/EdXposed/issues/657

https://github.com/ElderDrivers/EdXposed/issues/688
[Xposed General] the00guy:
I agree, this was not communicated. Development will sometimes break dependencies that you can't control in order to move the development of your software forward but it needs to be clearly documented if you value your integrations/dependencies.

Yes I agree with everything you started. I did not mean to defend poor SDLC protocol when it comes to communication around their development efforts and supporting those who have developed on top of their platform. I simply meant to attempt to understand their actions and conclude on where their efforts were being placed going forward given the lack of clarity from the maintainers of EdXposed for whom it seems English may not be their first language.
[Xposed General] shah22:
Well, then what do you say about devs of riru core ? Did they told in advance that they will make such name or path changes ? All they did was label all questions on github relating to this topic as 'stupid'. Now tell me how's that better?

But I do acknowledge that banning anyone just for describing a bug or problem is a bit too far but again, the devs at riru haven't done any better job either.

Yes I agree, they needed to discard some 'old' compatibility for the way ahead, but still it should've been documented better. But again, devs at riru didn't done it either. And per my understanding, the changes in riru v22 are far major then a trivial solution.

Plus, if both riru and ed exposed devs have moved forward to not support the old modules, then we already know the solution lol... Just downgrade to riru 21.3 and ed exposed 4563 .. :D

Why should we expect the devs to accomodate each other's changes lol. Are they in any mutual agreement ? I mean riru and ed exposed ? :D
[Xposed General] enetec:
Pay attention...

I think it's needed to explain better actual situation to "noobs" in devopment matter which are on Android P with stable Riru & EdXposed (to stay safe side with daily use...) and have the (bad...) idea to update to (stable too) Riru v.22.x....

After reboot stable EdXposed v.0.4.6.4 (4563) doesn't load (or install...) anymore since unable to detect new Riru version...

So, the poor user search for a latest beta, just to find that is the same release as stable (?!?) :rolleyes:

So he goes for Canary... EdXposed manager show directly only the latest v.0.5.0.6 (4586), he download and install it and... 99% bootloops. :rolleyes:

So, if able to disable it and to recover phone woking, search for a previous version working fine on the GitHub site, hidden on Artifact tab...

So he repeat his tries for 17 (seventeen!!!) versions obtaining bootloops every time... :facepalm:

Only after 17 bad tries, he will find version v.0.5.0.6 (4569) which don't bootloop, is able to detect Riru v.22, BUT... just to discover that some old Xposed modules which worked with 4563 doesn't work anymore! :rolleyes:

(load fine but no effect...)

Then, if he decide to report this to official EdXposed GitHub or ask for a stable release working with Riru v.22 (as it should be, since many want to use only stable releases inside Magisk and no more...) is bad replied and.... Banned!!!

This is a serious way to develop? I say it is NOT.
[Xposed General] shah22:
My sympathies man, but what we should understand is.. we agreed to all that when we first accepted to use this software... when we first registered here on xda. We agree that our phones can get broken and we can get very very frustrated. Its the first rule and foremost one of the forums.

Ofcourse it doesn't mean that it should happen all the times. And I do said it before, banning just for reporting is a bit far fetched but again.. riru and ed exposed are from different devs .. how can we expect them to solve each other's bugs and/or incompatibilities ? Yeah they are dependent on each other but in no way accountable for solving bugs of each other due to updating their apps.. (I don't think devs of both apps are in any mutual agreement with each other xD)

And even if they do fix such bugs, it would be just for the user's (us) convenience and we should never expect them to solve compatibility with older modules lol

Unless such users are the big majority (which i don't think so xD)
[Xposed General] enetec:
Never said they are much better...

BUT...

1) Release notes of v.22 states clearly that Riru modules would need some modification to work, beneath described as "trivial"...

2) Were EdXposed developers at first which asked Rikka (Riru developer) the modifications suddendly introduced in v.22... and when they obtained them... They weren't ready to support them fine way! :rolleyes:

(You can find their request on Riru GitHub.... ;) )

Rikka says they are trivial.... I don't know... I take his words as good until somebody demonstrate the contrary....

This has to be demonstrated. I bet that a modified 4563 working with Riru v.22 would not break any old module...
[Xposed General] cnoevl21:
Im a bit confused. im seeing ppl say to use riru 21.3 and EdXposed v.0.4.6.4. When i tried that i couldnt pass safetynet. So then I read to use latest riru and edxposed canary. I did that. and after clearing data on google play and services, i was able to pass safetynet.

But now ive noticed that gravitybox changes to stick after a reboot
[Xposed General] shah22:
Yeah but it seemed to me like you were throwing all the weight on edxposed guys when clearly riru devs pushed out the update which broke the compatibility in first place.. the only fault with edexposed devs lies in not communicating or warning the users from updating the riru core as the latest stable version of edexposed still doesn't recognizes latest riru core as installed.. (although they've made an announcement regarding this on their github some days ago)

Really if it was that 'trivial ', don't think they wouldn't have published a 'fixed' v4563 or any stable fixed version till now. Infact one of edxposed devs mentions that 'there were many breaking changes' in one of the githubs threads you linked yourself. The devs of both riru and edexposed are behaving somewhat weird on this big issue.. when it clearly breaks the latest stable edxposed from working at all.. and the devs failed to provide a fix to people using stable channel and instead telling all of them to use unstable canary builds..

I'm not defending anyone or up against anyone lol, but I can clearly see that (troublesome) riru update is from 20 days ago..

Yeah, honestly I would really much appreciate anyone here on xda managed to do that (if it's possible even in first place) . But still I won't expect as no one is obliged to fix older versions (not even the original devs)

Well, consider yourself lucky to not get a bootloop from canary builds lol..

That wasn't how I bypassed safety net though. I just blacklisted all google related services in ed xposed manager and used magisk hide to hide all the apps from root which I wanted to (including edxposed manager and google apps/services plus magisk and edxposed managers). That apparently fixed safety net issue for me.. I'm using gravity box and its changes stick after reboot (although it takes a slight time to load in). Using riru v21.3 + edxposed v4563 yahfa (0.4.6.4) stable. And about the changes not sticking after reboot - maybe because you are using the new canary builds which are known to not work 'well' with older modules..
[Xposed General] enetec:
To be honest, it's over 9 months that I have no issues at all with safety net (with right settings...).

I have had only some issues with a bank app which was able to see modification on the phone and I solved at last with latest Magisk Manager apk (it was it which was spotted by app at last...).

So, no need to use Canary for safety net on my device...

Probably you haven't faced bootloops with latest canary because you are on Android Q or R...

But who is on P is highly keen to face bootloops with every release > 4569 to date.
[Xposed General] enetec:
Browsing on GitHub bugs report (open &... "closed"... :rolleyes: ) and changelogs I've found that v.0.5.0.6 (4568) *COULD* work fine with Riru v.22.x and not breaking any compatibility with old modules too...

I'll test this combo and let you know in one or two days... ;)

If somebody wants to try too...
[Xposed General] Strike3k:
I have Riru 22.4 and Edxposed v.0.5.0.6 4586 installed.

Sadly only one xposed moudles works (Snaptools) other xposed modules show a message, that the module is not active in edxposed, but they are in fact active (instaprefs, custoMIUIzer).

Any suggestions how I can get every module to work? I read that Edxposed v.0.5.0.6 4569 would work with 22.x but I can't find it on the Edxposed manager. Where can I get it from?
[Xposed General] adriansticoid0312:
Do you have whitelist/blacklist mode turned on? If yes, then you might have excluded/included the modules themselves so they can't detect Xposed.
[Xposed General] Strike3k:
Thanks for your answer,

yes it's on and I tried to turn it off, but the modules still don't work.

Btw. all modules worked on Riru 21.3 with v.0.5.0.6 4586, but safetynet didn't pass, so I tried to update to Riru 22.4. Now safetynet passes, but not all modules work
[Xposed General] enetec:
Yes, they are. Open EdXposed Manager, go to Canary tab and select "Get support". Go to the version you wish to use and select Artifact tab. You'll find both Sandhook & YAHFA versions to be downloaded.

Up to date best/safe versions IMHO are:

Riru v.21.x with EdXposed v. 0.4.6.4 (4563)

or

Riru v.22.x with EdXposed v. 0.5.0.6 (4569)

(with this some old modules won't work anymore... but don't tell this loudly ore they will ban you!!!) :rolleyes:
[Xposed General] throwawaysubmit:
Are you two repeating the same version typo in your replies? Is it v 0.4.6.4 (6563) or v.0.4.6.4 (4563)? Is it v.0.5.0.6 (6569) or v.0.5.0.6 (4569)? I think you're mixing up the numbers of the versions which just caused me to spend 20 minutes looking for something that doesn't exist. Perhaps you could clean up your posts so you don't cause massive frustration to others?
[Xposed General] enetec:
Sorry, 4563 & 4569.... I was replying by my phone while was at work... :rolleyes:
[Xposed General] Strike3k:
That is exactly what happened to me too omg. I read about 6569 and try to get this version since then :D I will edit it.

So for everybody wondering: 6569 does not exist.

---------- Post added at 11:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:45 PM ----------

So I installed riru 22.4 and edxposed 0.5.0.6 (4569) and all modules work, but I can't pass safetynet.

So i updated to edxposed 0.5.0.6 (4586) and now some modules work and some do not, but I can pass safetynet, so I will stay on this version.

I hope this helps someone to decide which version he should use.
[Xposed General] Lord Sithek:
...until next Google update comes and trips safety net once more ?

I really hope they will find a way to hide root from Google for a longer period of time, but I'm not ready to give up on some modules, so I'm staying on stable build right now...
[Xposed General] bush911:
What phone and which Android are you using? I am currently on Pixel 3 with Android 10. I am hesitating whether to upgrade to Android 11, as a module called Lataclysm is a must for me?

I would be most grateful if you could help check whether lataclysm work with your setups?
[Xposed General] enetec:
Because you probably are not on Android P, otherwise you would be on bootloop now...

Please don't forget to *ever* report *at least* what Android version are you using in your tests...
[Xposed General] archz2:
Thanks everyone for your discussion. I casually updated my RIru to 23.0 just like I update my apps and got into trouble with edxposed 0.4.6.4 (Sandhook) which kept saying that Riru wasn't installed.

After lot of trials and error, I managed to go back to Riru 21.3 by realizing that it was the last riru zip file in my phone. Now I'm reading your discussion and realizing that I wasn't the only one who faced this issue.

I'm using OnePlus 5T with stock oxygen OS 10.0.1, Android 10.

Now I believe that the safest bet is a combination of edxposed 0.4.6.4 and Riru 21.3.

But the question is, how would I know that it's safe to update to Riru?'Or would Edxposed will be updated to stable version and only then I'd update my Riru?

Or...there's no need to update anything. Just stay where I am.
[Xposed General] Lord Sithek:
For now in my opinion it is best to stay with Riru 21.3 until nex stable EdXposed build will be released
[Xposed General] enetec:
I'va done some more test as promised...

Ambient: Moto Z2 Force on Android P

First test, EdXposed 4568

- Riru 22.4 + EdXposed 4568

Same behaviour as 4569, not any relevant differences noted: it works but old modules don't work anymore...

Boot is not so fast since of a bit more errors and warning than 4569...

- Riru 23.0 (from 22.4) + EdXposed 4568

Very slow first boot that ended in a very late bootloop when UI is already started.

Second boot (not so fast...) ended well and not any relevant differences noted

Rikka said that need of second boot (and only from v.21.x...) has been fixed. It is NOT and still present from v.22.x too.

I'm quite disappointed with Rikka, he is releasing beta versions (Alpha?) like they would be stable final... (and they are NOT!).

- Riru v.23.0 + EdXposed 4587

At least (after 17 broken releases...!!! From4570 to 4586 bootloops on P!!) EdXlosed team released an 'able to booting' on P version of EdXposed...

Little problem: not a single module works as intended. They load fine and... do nothing! 🙄

No error reported by manager apps...

[BUG] Exposed 0.5.0.6 4587 doesn't load modules · Issue #709 · ElderDrivers/EdXposed

什么情况/What happened? Installed. Activated. Doesn't want to load any modules. Xposed模块列表/Xposed Module List Lucky Patcher Min Min Guard 允许截图/Screenshot allowed Magisk模块列表/Magisk Module List EdXposed及...

github.com

Shame on them. 👎

Soooo... well, we a have a "final" Riru v.23 without any "final" (nor Alpha/Beta...) EdXposed version able to even recognize it!

BUT we have a lot of Canaries... not a single one able to work in a decent way... 🙄

Better combo ia still Riru v.21.3 with EdXposed v.0.4.6.4 (4563) but if you ask them to release an updated v.0.4.6.4 they reply that it is "obsolete software" and eventually ban you as they done with me...

Well... It seems that "obsolete software" still works better than new one... 😏

Time to fork? 🤔
[Xposed General] archz2:
It's not obsolete man. Old riru and old edxposed are stable versions. The new versions are unstable. Canary, beta, I don't know. They can't be called 'new fresh updated versions', just because they came later. I admire your patience. I guess that's not your primary phone you're doing all the testing with various versions?

Absolutely! I agree. People have gone quite risky testing various versions and entering bootloop.
[Xposed General] Lord Sithek:
I belive he was just bit ironic... 😏
[Xposed General] Karim.elidrssi1:
I did alsteps correctly but after i restart my device work for a while an after everything's stuck and restart ihave a samsung a315f i
[Xposed General] Multisoft:
Hi, I can't install Edxposed in Magisk an TWRP.

Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro [China]

Firmware Indonesia MIUI Global 11.0.2.0 (PGGIDXM)

Please help me.

_
[Xposed General] mistermojorizin:
anyone got edxposed working on a Pixel 4a 5g or a Pixel 5?
[Xposed General] Lord Sithek:
From the error message I conclude you probably updated Riru Core to 22+ or 23. It's not compatible with latest stable EdXposed. Best you can do is download Riru 21.3 from Github repository and flash stable EdXposed again. Alternatively you can leave Riru 23 and download latest EdXposed Canary from EdXposed Manager, but you can experience different issues like described above in this thread.
[Xposed General] shadowstep:
For me, on OOS 9 (Android Pie):

Most stable combination is Riru v21.3 and EdXposed v0.4.6.4-4563 (the current available version in the Magisk Repo).

The latest Riru v23.0 works fine but if you enable the new hide functionality, there's a bootloop; otherwise it works well.

The latest EdXposed canary (at the time of writing this post is v0.5.0.6-4587) works with the latest Riru v23.0 without any bootloops, but a few modules don't work (for example GravityBox didn't work for me) while some modules work.
[Xposed General] enetec:
It's not me who defined it as "obsolete software"...

It was one of their developers (kotori2) in a reply when somebody asked a v.0.4.6.x compatible with Riru v.22/23...

I think that it is a very dumb reply when not only are you talking about your current stable release but you don't have neither a "close to alpha" version ready...

Many of you don't know me... (they too... 😏).

I'm a professional IT, with years of professional experience on beta testing softwares and development too.

TWRP versions able to work on A/B partitions smartphone has been developed on a mine idea posted on this forum some years ago... (and considered crazy at first by developers... 🙄).

Various how to root guide/method for some smartphones has been realized by me and posted here in years...

Nowdays I have a second Moto Z2 Force which I use as "lab phone" since I need max performance and reliability. So I could have been the "perfect" betatester for them... but they prefer to ban me! 😅

I repeat it... open source software has a great pro: when developers doesn't work well anymore, we can ever fork from them... 😉
[Xposed General] enetec:
Just a bit... 😜
[Xposed General] mlgmxyysd:
Yes, we banned you, you deserve it.

You posted useless spam in issues many times. What a shame on you.👎

[BUG] v.0.5.x.x breaks compatibility with old Xposed modules · Issue #693 · ElderDrivers/EdXposed

As already signaled, new v. 0.5.x.x.breaks compatibility with some old Xposed modules... I've done some extensive tests... Moto Z2 Force on Android P stock Riru - EdXposed - Behaviour v.21.x - 0.4....

github.com

[TODO] stable EdXposed 0.4.6.x 4563 compatible with Riru v.22.x · Issue #689 · ElderDrivers/EdXposed

EdXposed v.0.4.6.4 (4563) is the last known good version which is fully compatible even with A LOT of Xposed old modules and very stable. Successive versions v.0.5.x.x has (up to now...) reduced mo...

github.com
[Xposed General] mlgmxyysd:
Rename zip file(remove brackets) and try again
[Xposed General] TheKerevas:
I wonder one thing, is it possible to use Riru v.21.3 with EdXposed v.0.4.6.4 (4563) on A11?
[Xposed General] enetec:
...and this would be spam? 😂

What a clown you are... 😂😂😂

You are neither close to real developers... 😏
[Xposed General] enetec:
I don't think... Android R branch has been specifically developed (and is v.0.5.x.x).

I would use v.22/23 with 4569 on R...
[Xposed General] TheKerevas:
As I am currently on A10 with Riru v.21.3 with EdXposed v.0.4.6.4 (4563). An A11 update has come out for my phone and I would like to figure out what to install to get everything working on the A11 ...
[Xposed General] enetec:
I understand... If you don't use many Xposed old modules Riru v.22/23 with EdXposed 4569 is a "decent" solution... (beneath not as good as "obsolete" combo you are using now...).

Riru v.23 seems to have issues if you enable new feature, but is quite stable if you use it like a... v.22.

EdXposed greater than 4570... well... consider them less than alpha... 🙄
[Xposed General] mlgmxyysd:
Well, if you like to spread your rumors here, do not mess with my project.

Get out to your fork now.

By the way, the ban will not be lifted for fools, forever.:ROFLMAO:
[Xposed General] mrjuniork:
@enetec @mlgmxyysd

I urge you both to keep the drama out of this thread. Jumping on each other won't get us anywhere.

And it's also not helping to put a "stupid" tag on a github issue.

Please address this as adults and have a fruitful interaction.

I appreciate it 😊

Cheers (y)
[Xposed General] enetec:
No "drama" at all... my reports on GitHub has been "kindly" reported here by, ehm, "developers"... *everybody* with a bit of brain can read them and make its own opinion (if they are "spam" or sharp reports of evident bugs that they simply refuse to fix with no excuse...). 😏

Anyway I'm here to help users, as ever.

I'll ignore "developers" posts and I will test every release & report every bug. Liked & disliked. 😉
[Xposed General] TheKerevas:
Edxposed I only need to use custoMIUIzer :/
[Xposed General] enetec:
So you could test it on Q with new Riru & EdXposed and if it works fine you can upgrade to R...
[Xposed General] enetec:
New build, new test... 😏

Ambient: Moto Z2 Force on Android P stock

Magisk: 21100

Riru: 23

EdXposed: 4590 Sandhook

Boot? Yes, quite fast, few errors on logs.

Loads? yes.

Xposed modules working: NONE (sic..! 🙄)

Rolled back to 4569... 😑
[Xposed General] TheKerevas:
No version of Riru or EdExposed causing bootloop problems or other? What should I be careful of?
[Xposed General] TheKerevas:
But is it possible that not even a working version fail to do?
[Xposed General] Lord Sithek:
If you are on Android 10, you may use Riru 21.3 + stable EdXposed from Magisk repo
[Xposed General] enetec:
Yes, but he wants to uograde to R...
[Xposed General] enetec:
Bootloops are *ever* possible. More if you go with Canary/Alpha/Beta versions...

To stay on safe side anyway you need both of these:

- TWRP

- MM (Magisk Manager for Recovery Mode)

With these two you should quite ever able to exit any bootloop condition in (quite...) easy way. 😉

Please note that same configuration could work fine on Q and bootloop on R (or P...) too... 🙄

More... my tests are done on Motorola which uses quite a "vanilla" Android version, very close to Pixels one... modified android versions (like Huawei, Samsung, etc...) could easily face more issues...
[Xposed General] munchy_cool:
ignore....
[Xposed General] Lord Sithek:
Ops, sorry, I missed that 😳
[Xposed General] alpha.83:
After installing latest Riru core (v23.0) from magisk modules I'm unable to install edxposed (also from magisk modules) - v0.4.6.4 (4653) gives an error that I should use core v21.3

I do know about https://github.com/RikkaApps/Riru/releases, just giving feedback that maybe it should be sorted out?
[Xposed General] enetec:
Yes... Just read my posts in last three pages... 😏
[Xposed General] TheUndertaker21:
Latest canary and the app is crashing for me in one ui 2.5 anyone eledr?
[Xposed General] PhamTheThao:
I can't install Edx on Android 10 Genymiton.

How to install and use Xposed/Edxposed with Genymotion PaaS? – Genymotion
[Xposed General] enetec:
EdXposed v.5.1.0 up to 4599 released.

I'll test them ASAP... 🙄