yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] martin_yo:
I'm glad to hear that....unfortunately i live in the galaxy far faraway...:) :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mrloopy:
I have the same issue with the "Please reconnect to PC and run the upgrade again" message. Unfortunately, the reset doesn't help. As soon as you press the power button that message comes up. I think if we got that message, we've bricked it
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mandingo:
You may be right but in the spirit of trying everything you:-

1) PRESS AND HOLD "Fn and Green" buttons

2) WHILE KEEPING THEM PRESSED press and release the reset hole with stylus

3) CONTINUE HOLDING the Fn and Green buttons until the white reset options screen appears

Fingers crossed for you - if this doesn't work then you are right, time to send it back.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rudy173:
does anybody have the original wm6.0 profesional for 8520?

incase some thing gone wrong and i want to downgrade the rom back to 6.0
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] truffle1234:
i have upgraded and nothing is wrong.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
nothing wrong...

Tcpmp crashes, coreplayer plays audio but not video.

No more modem app, so no more dialup connections.

ICS is working fine but dialup connections can be useful, on operating sistems different from windows and linux...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] truffle1234:
Windows media player plays everything, 3G connection connects to internet.... wifi works better then before and better then my i780, GPS connection is faster then the i780.. not hanging from time to time as it did with WM6.0.. i can go on and on... as long as the 6.1 improves the bigger issues i am happy dialup connection?? tcpmp, coreplayer i dont care as its a business phone for me..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
You have a very strange vision of "everything"...

Never heard about, mov, flv, avi, divx, etc.. ?

And I dont't care about WIFI, with HSDPA download speed over 4Mbps available almost evereywhere...

But personal need are not the point of the discussion.

Simply TCPMP crashes with this rom and was working with the old one.

And this is a problem, period.

BTW, I've found a solution, I hope this helps all the 8502 users who want to paly some videos even on a "business phone".

Use this build instead of the default one.

http://rapidshare.com/files/117367968/TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-01.CAB
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ACEPL:
i-Mate 9502 WM 6.1 WWE Telstra 1.73 ROM

Hi,

Installed the 1.73 ROM and my 9502 worked brilliantly. Thank you Telstra and all the people contributing to this forum. It seemed to speed up the 9502. The extra One Note app is useful too! Wireless worked and Bluetooth. I had a 8GB MSD card working too.

I have an 8150 Ultimate also. The hardware specs look similar but it was built by Arima Communications (6150 too) based on Xscale PXA 270 520Mhz Processor whereas the 9502 has the Qualcomm MSM7200 processor 400Mhz. I suspect the Telstra ROM would not work on the 8150. Any thoughts?

There does not appear to be a way of saving the original ROM so once one has upgraded it would be difficult to return to WM6.0

Has anyone heard how to get an 8150 onto WM6.1?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MatrixAce:
Oh man... I forgotten to select "operating system only" and now i've got that ugly telsa logo... Anyone know how I can remove it? -_-"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] truffle1234:
I am Sorry my friend.... i am wrong to say what i said....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] BuuBox:
Want a laugh: http://www.imate.com/t2-Ultimate_Guarantee.aspx

The iMate Ultimate Guarantee: an unmatchable feature list, or your money back!

Crazy. I think they'll be getting a few back...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Ineedtoys:
They're not that daft. Read the small print.

“Full Matching Features and Functions” means matching all functions/specifications of the i-mate™ Ultimate 8502 or i-mate™ Ultimate 9502 or i-mate™ Ultimate 6150 or i-mate™ Ultimate 8150 as detailed in Schedule 1 and at www.imate.com.

For the sake of clarity,

(a) matching some of the functions/specifications is not sufficient, all functions/specifications must be matched;

(b) the functions/specifications of the other mobile phone device (“Comparison Phone”) must be offered as standard with the Comparison Phone at time of being advertised or offered for sale, and not at a later stage by other means, including but not limited to, uploading software or the purchase of optional extras; and

(c) matching some functions/specifications but not all, even if the Comparison Phone has a better grade with respect to particular function/specification, is not sufficient.

And guess what's listed in Scedule 1? i-Mate's proprietary remote config and wipe software:

i-mate Custom i-Q

i-mate Secure i-Q

So all a big con then.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
I really don't understand the approach of the average imate users.

I only read about warranty, money back, value of the imate shares, etc...

And noone seem interested on solving the (few) problems that are affecting the imate smarphones.

Wakeup imate users! Stop the complaints and start to do something useful.

I own the 8502 since the last week, and in less than a week I found a lot of information and workarounds for the known problems:

#1 Igo8 does not work out of the box----> use gpsgate or (better) portsplitter.

#2 Coreplayer doesnt works ----> change the video mode from qtv to ddraw or raw framebuffer.

#3 Tcpmp crashes ---->use one of the rebuilt version http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=380387

#4 I found that the omnia 3d driver works perfectly

#5 I found that the 8502 is one of the 5 smartphones that can run Manila 3d at a reasonably speed, and one of the to that can do it w/o adding a driver or doing anything special.

#6 I found that you can recover a lot of program memory avoiding the start of the Imate services. Just delete a couple of links from \windows\startup (doing so you loose the ability of remote lock/wipe)

I'm (obviously) not Albert Einstein, I'm just an user that want the best from his device.

So dear collegues, stop with the complaints and start working! :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mister B:
I agree, we need to focus on resolving problems & sharing fixes & knowledge for these devices.

I recently bought a used 8502 (sell for peanuts due to bad press)

Bloody nice PDA, running smooth on WM6.1, no problems to date.

Keyboard is nice, screen is a pleasure to use with stylus or finger

It has a desent battery unlike the Diamond

Build quality is good.

Most of my software is running fine on it, using a 12th generation non cut dual sim adaptor in it without problems.

Only thing I want to improve is bass level when listening to music via headphones.

Have tried DSP, SRS WOW, HTC Equalizer without success, hard reset needed for SRS WOW.

Anyone got an equalizer working on this ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lasterato:
Chat Log

I removed the name as you can prolly tell.

Does anyone here work in a service center? hehheheh

You're now talking to removed from 'Australasia Support' The topic is : 8502

removed > Welcome to Club i-mate. My name is Jenny and I am a Club Advisor. What can I help you with?

lasterato> jenny

removed > How may i help you?

lasterato> is there a 6.1 rom for the 8502

lasterato> or a 6.5 rom

removed > n.

lasterato> or a wm 7 rom?

removed > well Imate has not officially launched any software upgrade

lasterato> okay

lasterato> is there any unofficial upgrades?

removed > to windows6.1 orwindows07

lasterato> windows 6.1

removed > yes the upgtrade is at service centre

lasterato> can i get a copy of it?

removed > but not for windows6.1 or windows07

removed > please l;og on to http://www.imate.com/Support_ServiceCenters.aspx

removed > for the service centre location

lasterato> i dont want to have to send my phone away for a simple rom upgrade

removed > i apologise the upgrade is not available on the website

removed > We appreciate if you can take 2 seconds to rate our service, at the top of this window.

removed > thank you have a nice time ahead

lasterato> how do i get the 6.1 rom at the service centers?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lasterato:
Delisted

A dude on the iMate forums stated this:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] karaj2:
how to extract rom

i download this rom but how to extract :http://rapidshare.com/files/129807567/Ultimate_9502_V.01.73_NO_CP.rar.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Just unzip it (e.g. with Winrar) and run the executable file while your 9502 is connected to your PC/laptop via ActiveSync...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] karaj2:
how to extract rom content files

i download this rom (http://rapidshare.com/files/129807567/Ultimate_9502_V.01.73_NO_CP.rar.html) next extract rar file but how to extract rom content files and access ExtROM.nb file of this rom .

all ultimate rom are exe file and by winrar not extract please help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
Just launch the .exe and you will find the rom image in c:\temp, copy it elsewere.

Now the problem is how to create a dump from the image, at the moment I don't have an answer.:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] karaj2:
thanks of The Solutor

I find ROM image in c:\temp but now how to dump from ROM image (IMAGEFR.mbn)?

i can covert of mbn to bin by prepare_imgfs.exe but again problem is how to dump rom image *.bin because cannot dump by viewimgfs.exe .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
Is there anything can un-block imate from chaging the sms setting ( service provider ) ????

Garmin XT ( Hang after crack ' n try to run ).....

Please help.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
something quite annoying, after GPRS run, we can't close it manually : ( !!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Have never faced such a problem! Whenever I tap over the big G (or E, or 3G, or H) icon on the title bar, a white window pops up containing a diconnect button. If I tap over it, the connection is immediately closed...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] karaj2:
ultimate ROM

how to dump from ROM image (IMAGEFR.mbn)?

i can covert of mbn to bin by prepare_imgfs.exe but again problem is how to dump rom image *.bin because cannot dump by viewimgfs.exe .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
yes it suppose to be there, but it's odd i can' find it.

I nned to close my phone in order to stop it.

And BTW is there one having problem to check their servi provider number?or change it??

since i can't access it, and i am having problem in sending SMS but not receving SMS, any1 having this problem>???

is it the phone or my provider??? only occur on 1 provider but the other it's good

Please help!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
What do you have under HKLM\ControlPanel\Phone\Flags2 ? As far as I remember, value 8 on this key should show the disconnect button, and 16 (decimal) to show a connection timer as well. Mine is 16, by the way...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mathius:
GPS non-existent with new ROM

Hi,

I have a 9502 which I recently flashed with the ROM found on this forum. Skype now works (great) but unfortunately now there is no mention anywhere of the internal GPS device.

I have installed Tomtom 7 for Windows Mobile, which cannot detect any GPS device; but I am unsure if this is a failure of Tomtom to detect the device, or a failure of the ROM to detect the GPS.

Can anyone shed any light on this please?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] szypcg:
In 8502 the Coreplayer can not play some WMV film fluent,While the windows media can do this.Any suggestions?Thx!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
Thank you

It's 16 already, can you tell me how to unlock the sms setting????
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
And, yet, you don't see the disconnect button on the white popup screen? This is odd ! I can only think of suggesting you to reflash the ROM. With a little luck, it will solve your SMS sending problem as well.

Sorry for not being able to attack each of your problems in a more specific way...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
With this ROM, GPS is supposed to be started automatically. You see, mine works fine. Under "Start > Settings > System tab > External GPS > Programs tab", I have "COM9". On the "Hardware" tab I have "(None)" on "GPS Hardware port:" and "4800" on "Baud rate:", and on the "Access" tab, my checkbox named "Manage GPS automatically (recommended)" ticked.

I don't know TomTom, but I suppose it should have some means to set its connection to the GPS port. Specify COM9 for that purpose. You'll notice the connection to the GPS if you see an yellow light flashing on the left led every 2,5 seconds. If it doesn't work, try to reflash the ROM...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Official WM6.1 v1.77 ROM released by i-mate !!!

Hi All,

Finally! i-mate staff have released their official v1.77 WM6.1 ROMs, for both 8502 and 9502 devices, each one for both arab and WWE languages.

You must have both an account at their website (obviously logged in) and your device registered there (after running "Device Customisation" on your device), in order to be allowed to dowload them.

Enjoy!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
Thanks for the new!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Minotaur:
Lol... I only just upgraded to that beta firmware today too... I think the official one went up AS I was flashing the beta one :P
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] markus1964:
wm 6.1

thnx for the heads up, have upgraded to ver 1.77, & have found it is slightly quicker than the beta, have spbmenu 2 running, memory: 41.83 free
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Minotaur:
... and there's also no Telstra branding :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
So far, so good...

Have just posted this on forums.imate.com.

First impressions are positive! Pretty much the same behaviour as the leaked v1.73 ROM, which has always been good. Most probably because both ROMs share the same build, but v1.77 presents a big plus: some 10MB more free RAM after a soft-reset. Great !

SDHC, Wi-Fi, A2DP, HFP, ActiveSync, all working fine !

I'm keeping it...

More feedback could follow, if problems show up later...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wobaby:
any chance someone can upload this new official rom to rapidshare ????

Cheers guys,

Mark
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AndyInParadise:
Upgraded last night and have been playing with it this morning.

Feels a bit snappier than on 1.73.

Makes a great unit even better.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Minotaur:
I have noticed the camera doesn't seem to work - as in, pressing the camera key does nothing, nor does running the camera app from Start|Programs... can any one else confirm this?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AndyInParadise:
I just checked my camera and you are right it does not work.

I am sure I have used it since I upgraded to 1.77.

I will do a full backup and hard reset and see if I can figure out if I have done something that stops the camera from working.

Report back soon.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AndyInParadise:
Hard reset, clean install and the camera is working.

I will start installing software and see what causes the problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Minotaur:
Cool... I am sure that others as well as myself appreciate what you're doing to isolate this issue. :)

*UPDATE*

My camera works again now. The only thing I can think of that I did was I pressed the camera button with the screen slid out - it worked then, and has worked every time since, even after power cycles.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] emeowww:
Hi all, that camera problem might just be on 9502's. I have an 8502, camera works with no problems.

Have been playing around with the new ROM, it looks stable so far. All my usual apps have been installed and are working without a hitch.

Looks like imate have (finally?) released the fix that makes the phone work the way it SHOULD (although a big discredit to the LONG wait for one)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AndyInParadise:
Found the problem.

If you have S2U2 V1.35 installed it stops the camera working.

I went back to S2U2 V1.22 and everything is working again.

Had to do 3 hard resets and 3 hours of stuffing around to figure this out.

Hope this helps.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Minotaur:
Hmmm I never had this installed on mine... must have been something else werid going on on my phone
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
First impressions (on 8502).

The good

The Imate internet connection sharing app now starts, stops, and works quickly and not take about 50 second in every operations.

The modem app is back.

Jblend (the default JVM) is now mostly working, not good as Jbed but is usable.

Operamini works in fullscreen, but the shortcut ** is not working, so you can't get rid of the windows bars but not of the bars of operamini itself.

The security management of the java applet is also improved.

Not 100% shure about this but seem that the processor is a bit overclocked.

In tcpmp info I never saw values above 399 MHz, now I see higher values (from 406 to 459 MHz).

The remote desktop apps is now with us.

The bad:

Igo8 still rquires portsplitter or gpsgate :mad:

The camera app works, but is slow as before.

Overall a good step ahead, if the Igo guys can do something to get igo workin the phone become almost perfect.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] emeowww:
I also have S2U2 1.35 on my 8502 - no problems with camera button not working.

Actually just discovered S2U2 doesn't lock the camera button! I can switch to camera after turning it on from standby.

GPS works fine with CoPilot 7
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
PQzII messes with 9502's camera !

I've seen some posts about the camera not working for some people here. Be warned that keyboard remapping software can mess with the camera. From my experience, I have PQzII installed, and I have to kill it before using the camera. Otherwise neither the camera button nor the camera application (in Programs) work.

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lasterato:
website

iMate have launcehd iMate GO - just about to look at it. Also their website is updated heaps.

AND OFFICIAL 6.1!!!! :D:D:D:D

have a look www.imate.com!

Ultimate_8502 WWE WM6.1WWE.01.77WWE.06.06
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
Yes, I had already given i-mate Go, which is, in fact, Vito's Winterface, a try, but I've found it be too white (like i-mate's new website's look, by the way) to my taste...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] The Solutor:
I use aebutton plus and magikblite and the camera works perfectly.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yung_vu:
call volume

the 1.73 rom had very weak call volumes which made it hard to take calls when on buses, trains etc........in the end i flashed back to the original rom

can anyone comment on the call volume on this new 1.77 ROM?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] osprey23:
I am very happy with my original ROM that came in the box. I have downloaded the v1.77 version, but I am afraid that I might not like the new ROM, that's why I have not flashed it yet.

Can you tell me how you "backup" the original ROM and how to flash it back to the original ROM?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] h9s:
WoW... New ROM, i hope can solve my sms setting :(

is it possible that PUK2 is needed to unlock ke sms setting?????
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] karaj2:
nobody doesn't answer to me

how to dump from ROM image (IMAGEFR.mbn)?

i can covert of mbn to bin by prepare_imgfs.exe but again problem is how to dump rom image *.bin because cannot dump by viewimgfs.exe .

please give me a link for download rom 1.77 (rapidshar or other)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
No improvement in the audio... What a disappointment since iMate was aware of the issue.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yung_vu:
HA! so my options are to stay with the original ROM and be able to hear conversations but run the risk where most of the calls dont get through because most of the time the phone doesnt pick up a signal.....OR.....go with the new ROM where calls get through but conversation is impossible unless you're inside a quiet room!!!

Its like being asked to choose between cutting off your right arm or poking a stick through your left eye
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AndyInParadise:
Louder earpiece volume

I have been using this file on 1.73 and have installed it on 1.77.

I find that it inproves the earpiece volume.

Let me know if it helps anyone else.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lasterato:
8502 & 9502 6.1 1.77 ROM Download

The new rom's can be found here :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2955305#post2955305
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yung_vu:
sorry, led you astray there. i didn't flash back to the original rom. actually flashed back to an intermediate one before 1.73 but after the OEM version. you can find it over on the imate forums
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yung_vu:
thanks andyinparadise.

have installed it. noticed its slightly louder so went out and tested it on george street. Couldn't make out any of the conversation......not even with a finger in my free ear and huddled in a corner in a side street.

the ROM itself is very snappy, signal is generally one or 2 bars higher than pre 1.73 ROMs, remove the phone skin and the imate start up files and there's a whopping 54megs of free memory after a soft reset and thats with SPB diary, SPB pocket plus, SPB weather and SPB phone suite installed on the today screen.

Pity that i'm probably going to have to revert back to the earlier ROMS on account of the headpiece volume :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] casouzaj:
You could consider using a BT headset for phone calls. Mine works flawlessly...

Just my 2 cents...

Cheers!

Carlos
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dodsin:
Hi,

I have an idea that might help:

Since the main speaker of the device is on the back of the earpiece, when the surrounding noise is too loud, just enable speakerfone while on a call, reduce main volume and flip the phone around so the main speaker is by your ear and the screen is in the palm of your hand...

How about that, what do you think?

Cheers,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rdecker692000:
What I think is that is a shame we need to come up with work arounds for a bad job done by iMate. They knew about the low volume - can't believe they didn't fix it.....

It is not like they rushed the ROM update out to market!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] letsride1978:
Hi Yung_Vu, i am just wondering how you manage to free up 54MB ? i would really like to do that as well, not that i need it as i already got the extra memory card but knowing able to free up more internal memory is always good ! it will help the speed right with fewer internal memory occupy ?? cheers mate
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yung_vu:
double post
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] yung_vu:
in your "windows\startup" folder, you should see two files:

- i-mate service.lnk

- i-mate configurator.lnk

just delete these two and it should free up some RAM. if you do delete them, then you wont be able to use the imate programs like "enhanced support" or "device customisation". what i actually do is move them from the startup folder to another directory then if i ever need to run the above programs, i can just run these files as needed

the default dialer skin also uses up a bit of memory so you can free up some more RAM by disabling it. use a reg editor and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin and change "Enabled" from 1 to 0. Soft reset and you should have the basic dialer and some more free memory
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] truffle1234:
the new rom on imate web site.... i am using it for a while now... and the imate go (Vito Winterface) is very cool...