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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jackleung:
The mini-usb plug is too tiny for me to work on it. I will pass it to whoever has the tool to test it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] chaps:
Right, as I posted earlier, I have 3 cheap car chargers - 1 with integral cable and 2 that are just the adapter and require a separate cable. None charge my phone. A usb cable that works from my pc fails to charge in the car.

So, I bought a genuine HTC car charger. I fully expected this to work fine, but it doesn't. It does exactly the same as the cheapo chargers - My phone shows the amber charging light for a minute or two, then it goes out. No charging takes place at all. The battery icon shows charging all the time the cable is plugged in though.

My ciggarette socket is fine and supplies enough current to make the ciggarette lighter thingy glow hot.

/baffled.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jackleung:
Do you have other USB cable to try?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bartimeus:
Hey all, No i have not yet found a solution for this problem. I believe I have a genuine HTC charger or at least an AT&T one because i got it witha bundle with my phone from AT&T. I am looking at the USB plug and it seems to be bent down a bit on the right side as you are looking at it.

I think i might talk to my girlfriends cousin who works for AT&T and see if he can be awesome and replace it for me without me having to put the AT&T crap back on there for an actual warranty return.

still charges at home wall plug in and syncs with my computer just fine
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] houie67:
This is how i get around this happens, though it sucks if you're using it as a navigation device. When it stops chagrining through the car adapter, I leave the cable plugged into teh phone and the cigarette/power adapter and do a soft reset. This seems to clear it up somehow and it starts charging.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] bartimeus:
Mine never even begins to charge though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] chaps:
Yep, and that don't work either. For me at least, I think there is an issue with my phones mini usb.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Lauicek:
Strange

1) My cheap car chargers charge great :)

2) My genuine HTC charger don't charge after 1-2 min. :confused:

have 2 other chargers who dont work..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] o2xdaexec:
easy way is to hunt down a car lighter with the usb on it the plug in your usb lead works for me as i have a 3-1 adaptor so i can use the music in the car with the head unit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jackleung:
No, the 1-2 mins light on doesn't mean it is charging. That's probably the time it try to verify the connection. If you have battery status installed and watch that closely, you will find that 1-2 mins does give you any charge at all
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] kp126:
ok so i got a usb car charger and connect a usb cable to it but it doesnt really charge

like noted above it turns the light on as if it was charging for about 1-2 minutes and then it goes off

The usb cable does work when i hook it up with my computer though and it gives it a full charge so i assumed it is not the cable, but i might be wrong.

does it need a specific usb car charger?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Fulcrum1:
Same problem here:

5 Usb cables + 1 Ac->Usb adapter + Original HTC car adapter

- None of the cables charges trough the Ac adapter

- 4 of them charge trough pc's usb

- The car adapter doesn't work

Fulcrum
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] drmc:
A little off topic but what plugin are you using Jackleung that gives you the battery current on the today screen in the screenshots above?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Fulcrum1:
It's HomeScreen PlusPlus, formerly konwn as Batterystatus.

That's the developer's site

You can download the basic version...it'll show up the infos you need.

Fulcrum
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Fulcrum1:
I suppose this procedure has been described many times...repetita juvant.

You can try this on a spare cable, just to see if the charging problem can be solved with a little diy.

Shorten Pin 4 & 5 on the cable and everything will work fine:

(yours is Mini-B)

1) With a needle lift Pin 4

2) With a screwdriver bend it over pin 5 and press it until it stucks and you can easily insert the connector it into Kaiser's miniusb.

3) Job done

You should solder 4&5 to finish up the job, 'cause the shortened pins can break during everyday use.

Fulcrum
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] orithm:
My charger doesn't work properly either - it slows the discharge on GPS but it still keeps going down.

I haven't tried playing with the pins given the mixed reports on here. Would be interested to hear more reports whether it works.

BTY I have a cheap car charger from Amazon - it is an Elite charger from Elite. Also bought the Herbert Richter cradle and that works fantastically - just wish I didn't have to worry about the battery on long journeys.

Again normal charger, usb charger, blackberry usb charger all work fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] tryps:
First, I'd like to thank Fulcrum 1 for that diagram and directions.

My tilt charged fine with the car charger worked for well over a month (cheap charger from the store I bought my Tilt). Last week it just stopped working. Blindly following suggestions here, I shorted out pins 4 and 5 in my charger and all is well again in my car charging world.

I am curious as to why this worked. Can anyone explain this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] JimmyMcGee:
I don't recall exactly But If 4 and 5 or shorted out The Kaiser knows that it won't be receiving anything on the "data" connections.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] tryps:
hmm, I just noticed that my phone doesn't charge on my wife's USB AC charger (was sitting right next to mine and I grabbed the wrong one). I do not know, but suspect that my AC adapter has 4 and 5 shorted out but her's doesn't.

If there is not data connection with 4 and 5 hooked up then why does my phone charge on the PC?

I suppose it can all remain a mystery until one of them fails.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] MortalX:
My charger works fine for 3 months and now after 10min in igo 2006 it won't charge untill i restart the device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] d200:
I found myself with the same problem of not being able to charge via usb or car charger. 5 minutes of moving pin 4 to short with pin 5 and problem solved.

many many thank for the information this forum really is a credit to all you knowledgable guys. certainly keeps me interested in HTC devices. thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cabana chives:
I'm fairly new to all this but having the same problem...

Anyone come up with a solution? I've tried MULTIPLE car chargers and wasted money and none of them charge my Tilt! Can someone explain, in detail for me, the dummy, the whole 4/5 pin thing...I don't understand but I'm willing to try! Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] jaydiamonds:
I had the same problem like 3 days ago. Bought mine from an At&T authorized dealer, it would only charge at a certain angle. Went to a store an exchanged for a new one and it works with no problem. Looks like At&T might be selling some defected chargers here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] deuzeff:
stupid question but: have you ever tried to buy the official HTC one? For me that's only one working (i.e. charging). Thus with Tomtom 6/7 runing, it also reload the battery, not only keep it alive while discharging.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Lauicek:
official HTC one

NO "stupid question" but you give stupid answer.

If you read the topic, you'll find people who have problem with official HTC one so do I.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] deuzeff:
I may give "stupid answers" but you post empty comments, what's better? I am giving my feedback, not the absolute Truth. You can save such comments imho. I see you had problems w/ the officail one, great, I had problem w/ 2 euros one...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] Skirr:
Sorry to bring this one up, but I have the same problem.

I bought my car charger to use GPS in car, because using TomTom leaves me with a drain from 260 to 320mA.

But when I use this thing, the Kaiser recoginzes its existence but then wont recieve any voltage input. Instead, after a few minutes, Battery Status just shows the normal drain again.

Is the pin shortening the only and actually working solution here?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories] cBorisa:
Problem solved

I faced the problem with car charger from Interstep.

Symptom: the device orange LED is on for 3 min and indicator shows charging of the device, but no actual charging is there.

Description: after reading several descriptions about Mini-USB pins, I figured out that HTC Kaiser gets power on PIN 1 and ground and some indicator signal on PIN 4 and 5. Pin 2 and 3 are for data.

My charger has PIN 4 and 5 are short-circuit.

Solution: when I opened the charger's connector, I've noticed PINs 2 and 3 sometimes can contact the wires from PIN 1 and PINs 4&5. I have removed PINs 2 and 3 completely from charger's connector and now device charges without any problem.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Huawei P40 Pro can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Huawei P40 Pro before depleting the battery.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
got ~7h SOT with medium usage using 90hz+4g+wifi
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Only 7 hours ? Im averaging 12.5 hours with just WiFi , I got 15 hours yesterday but 5 hours of that was with watching films without WiFi , still had 15% left
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
12.5 hours? That's insane! Do you mind sharing your settings & tweaks? This phone eats ~10% with screen on and 3% with standby with my regular settings. I do see a difference with or without 90hz, though.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] matik3789:
6-6.5h sot on 4g/lte. On WiFi didnt tested because i dont have that many time to check sot only on WiFi :D. But looks more like 11h easly.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
12.5 hours is actually normal. But my settings are 60h, (90hz actually doesn't make much of a difference). I've got several apps disabled too. I always have GPS, Bluetooth, Data, WiFi, 5g Off unless I need to use them. Always on display is switched off. I always have dark mode on.

If I was you I would install Gsam battery monitor and see if any apps are keeping your device awake in the background because 7 hours is way too low
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
Thanks for sharing, bro. :good:It seems our preferred settings are quite different. I prefer 90hz as my picky eyeballs can tell a big difference :eek:. I turned off some of the bloats (but not all), and I keep wifi, AOD, and data on. Honestly, with my regular settings, I'm not expecting it to last longer than 9 hours.

GSam battery monitor has been installed, but I haven't delved into it. My plan is to adb disable a few H apps and watch the difference. I guess you have tested it out, and I'd like to hear your advice.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
I can't see much difference with the refresh rate, the phone is smooth af on both settings ?

AOD will drain plenty of battery. I've uninstalled some apps with ABD too, but I uninstalled something I shouldn't have, restarted the phone and the phone wouldn't boot up so I had to do a factory reset ? be careful with what you uninstall with adb?

I'm on 94% at the moment with 1 hour SOT, been using it for Web browsing and WhatsApp.

With gsam I've enabled the extra settings with ABD which shows wake locks, so far I've seen many wake locks from *alarm* but the maximum wake time I get in 24 hours is roughly 6 minutes which I assume is normal,

I keep my screen on lower resolution too and I guess that's helping big time (I only use full HD if I'm watching a film)

I've also disabled background data for every single app and I've set App lamuch all to manual and the only app I let run in the background is WhatsApp, I believe this will improve battery life by loads
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
LOL. Happy to hear that 90hz wouldn't hit my battery hard. I'll play with the AOD settings, although it's something I'm really looking forward to moving from my old device. I've turned to a lower resolution too, and I couldn't notice the change:cowboy:. All apps in app launch have set to manual and no background except email and one chat app. This is the bottom line for me. LOL.

Keep awake time is ~7m with frequent screen on/off during my 1d regular use, which I'm generally happy with. I'm planning to take a quick look at the wakelock during a short standby, but alarm didn't rank high (after hibernation, syncloopwakelock and eventloop). (BTW, I really hate it that they disable unlocking bootloader, otherwise we can easily tweak those services:rolleyes:.)
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
AOD is not good imo, in the long run it will cause screen burn (very common with AOD).

Take a look at my screen shots, have your app launch set up like mine.

Keep awake time seems normal, I get roughly 6mins so no issues there :)

Can you send me a screenshot with your full battery usage? Along with every app which has consumed battery?

Look at my 2 screen shots. Have your app launch set up exactly that. The 3 options need to be disabled along with Manual setting on.

Second screenshot you see has background and roaming data OFF for every single App except Gsam & WhatsApp ?

PS use a dark theme too
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
I understand that AOD could burn the screen in the long run, but the bright side is it frequently shifts the bright pixels and is automatically switched off in pocket/face down:rolleyes:.

Yeah, I have almost identical settings as yours since yesterday. I'll give it a shot, and upload the results. Thanks again, mate.:good:
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
Sorry to bother you again. I did a quick test using gsam battery monitor. It's not a full cycle, but representative of my daily use. I did not see a huge impact by low resolution probably because the automatic resolution takes care of it in part of the scenarios. Since the Google play services takes the most of the battery, and the other apps have been pretty much limited, I have no clue of how to damp the wakelocks and improve the battery life further. crying:
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] jericho246:
No it won't. The AOD image is automatically repositioned on the screen over time so it doesn't cause burn-in.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Hey, I'm not sure why your Google play services battery drain is so high ? if you scroll all the way to the right you'll be able to see what app is causing the drain. The only part I could see was com.Android on your last screenshot.

Best thing to do is find the wake lock names and use adb to ignore the wake locks,
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
I totally forgot about that function in adb shell. LOL. That issue with google play services got fixed by clearing the cache. After that the battery life was improved a bit (8~9 SOT), and I'm happy with what it is now. I'll keep looking for the culprit and play with the adb ignore commands. Thank you for your help;)!
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Which cache did you clear? I want to clear it too to see if there's any improvement. What cache was it you cleared?

I'm glad you're battery has improved ???

Let me know if you find any culprits please and if you find any other ways to improve battery life ?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
I believe I cleared the cache for google play services and framework, and please note that don't mess up with the data of framework.

So far my device is running very smoothly, and the majority of alarms come from android heartbeat, and a few from GCM-related intents, so I'm happy with it. I'll have a full battery cycle run and see if I have any improvement. :highfive:
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Understood, I just cleared cache too. I will continue to inspect and debloat, will let you know of any improvements or fixes for better battery life, thanks!

Gave you a like too ?✋
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] ATCG XS:
One thing that I forgot to do, which may explain why I had some surprisingly high usage of google play services, is to turn off the auto-updates in google play store, although I don't think it has a big impact on the battery. Overall, the battery life (see attachment) looks good to me given my settings and everyday use.

It's kinda surprising to me that the bloatware from Huawei kept silent whereas google services rang a lot of doorbells. Don't know why, but I figure google has reached its hands to too many hidden areas in my device whereas Huawei is still learning from his big brother. Just kidding:laugh:.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
I already turned off auto updates ? and your stats looks very good! 3 hours SOT with 70ish percent left, that's very good.

Juding by sales, looks like huawei will be the bigger brother soon ??
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Hello! I think your debloating and clearing cache has done something amazing ❤️

I'm currently on almost 7 hours SOT and still have 66% remaining ???? check screenshot
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Esseker29:
Bouth it 3 days ago, yesterday I used it to chlone apps, and very satisfied with battery, and in general, after battery life on Galaxy Note 9.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
Finally I've attempted to optimise my device. Used to average about 7 hours sot on a full charge. My usual usage was BT, WiFi, 4g, auto facelock on, 90hz refresh, all applications left on 'auto' management.

I've now installed gsam battery stat, turned everything to manual (exception being WhatsApp, and a few other key apps).

First full charge run today. Hoping to get 10 hours plus...lets see ?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Let us know what happens ?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
I'm currently on 10 hours SOT with 28% remaining, however if you look at the bottom of my screenshot of gsam battery monitor, you'll see that the highest SOT I achieved was almost 14 hours over 2 days of usage!

This battery is insane!
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
That's really impressive. Though would you mind explaining why on mine there is a discrepancy between the battery stat screenshot, and the Huawei battery section? SOT are both different
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
That is weird ? that was happening to me around 2 weeks ago but since then it's sorted itself out. Perhaps a certain apps usage isn't being recorded by huawei battery manager?

Nevertheless, when it was happening to me, I came to the conclusion that the gsam battery monitor was the correct one for estimating SOT. So only go by gsam. I'll have a look and see if I can find a solution, but as far as I can remember it sorted itself out
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
This morning I came across a ton of wake locks by Google play services...

Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm curious about the 10.2 min *gms_scheduler* one if particular
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Hi, the highest wake time I get over 12 hours of standby is around 3 minutes. So if you're getting more than that I suggest you download the greenify app and hibernate all apps before going bed or if you aren't going to use the phone for a few hours. This will keep the wake locks down to a minimum
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
thanks for the reply, this was jsut this morning, a couple of hours unplugged. wierd...
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Can you send me the first page of gsam please

Then send me the "view time held awake" page

And also the "view nuns time waking device" page

You'll find all these pages on gsam

What else I can recommend you do is give gsam battery permissions with ADB (if you haven't already done so) , after that you'll be able to see exactly what's keeping your device awake
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
Sure, I've attached these for you. Thanks!
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
I've also enabled adb permissions btw
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
That's very high keep awake time. Clear cache from Google play services, play store & Google service framework.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
Ok will try that shortly, i hope this wont have any adverse effects to GSM thats installed?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Thanos88:
Nope won't have any adverse effects don't worry I've already done it ?

Use the greenify app it's very very good
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] bouyhy01:
What do you think ? Is it good il on 136 update 60hz 720p
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] PartheevP:
Held awake of 0 - thats crazy
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] sheikgr:
What the hell!!!!!

How did you manage that? zero awake time in 1day+ ???

Did do disable anything? What apps do you use? It seems impossible for a phone not to be awake , at least some minutes, to check for push,mails,notifications etc.

Are you on GMS or plain HMS?
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] dajumper:
I don't know how people get so much sot!

My battery sucks
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Serclauenache:
Mine too... ????. I barely get 6 hours. Because of the EMUI 10.1.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] skyisblue79:
I'm on EMUI 10.1. Also running Google play services framework.. I'm getting around 8 hrs Sot, sometimes close to 9 hrs. I don't game. Just browsing and watching netflix, YouTube on WiFi. Moderate calling, texting, Spotify music streaming to Bluetooth.

I just love this battery and overall optimisation. Samsung can go suck!!! :laugh::laugh:
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] vandal4e:
skyisblue grow some brain cells... my battery backup is also very poor when compared to my old Mate 10 Pro @ EMUI 9.1 / 10 and worse than my friend's 20 months old Mate 20 pro, had S20 ultra for a month before, P40 pro lasts about 1 hour less in daily usage before i have to charge it
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] skyisblue79:
You must be abusing the phone.. Lol

My Sot today was 10 hrs 50 mins.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Chris27808:
How are you getting these times? I'm down to 79 % 2 hrs 5 mins SOT , no videos, no gaming, Web browsing,. Used what's app thata about it
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] vandal4e:
he is just trolling no modern phone gets 10 hours of SOT not even 11 Pro Max & Mate 20x
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] xtrustkillx:
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[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] Monboso:
Guys keep an eye on Facebook battery drain! Some youtubers found out that facebook app has a little bug in emui 10.1 and can reach even 35% battery usage.

For the moment facebook lite works as always without battery drain.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] skyisblue79:
I got about 11 hrs initially. It dropped a bit now after installing GMS and lot of apps.. Still pushing close to 9 hrs SOT everyday.
[Huawei P40 Pro Real Life Review] CRO_Leo99:
SOT

Guys I only get about 7hrs SOT, with playing games for about 30 mins and for the rest of the time watching videos and using whatsapp and messenger. I am currently on EMUI 10.1.0.131. I saw that 10.1.0.141. changelog says that system power consumption gets optimized. Can someone on .141 confirm if battery life really gets better?