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[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tinchox17:
is RMX1931EX_11_OTA_1230_all_u4DJcrigsE54 from india?

does anyone have a link for the global version ?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Yes, it works for most people as reported on telegram.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
This thread is about global version only.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tinchox17:
i ask because the download link for that rom came from india. so i didnt know if RMX1931EX_11_OTA_1230_all_u4DJcrigsE54 is for india or global.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Indian and global version are same. The same zip works for everyone except China version.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Taurus_XDA:
No, you should wait for version C24.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] inCrooo:
That makes much more sense.

Thanks.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] yox2580:
For FP problem, I want to try relock bootloader..

The Stock recovery of c23 is ' ColorOS RECOVERY Ver 1.2 ' ?

I made the update A10 to C23 through TWRP3.3.1.13, however , after wipe, the recovery also changed to that one.

Can I make to relock bootloader from here ?

Someone made it from like this situation ?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] yox2580:
I have a report for you.

With C23 unlocked bootloader , I could use FP.

However, I dont have custom recovery.

Here's my procedure.

I own a global ROM A10 and had installed TWRP3.3.1.13 with the bootloader unlocked.

I installed the C23 for custom ROM ver. via that TWRP, as said it made reboot to TWRP , so did hard reset , and rebooted it, successed to C23.

When I did that, the recovery was somehow replaced by the ColorOS one from TWRP.

The FP was not available at this stage.

Next, I wanted to install TWRP, but I don't know why, it said "Waiting for any devices..." and I couldn't install it.

Therefore, I downloaded C23 for stockrom and installed it by overwriting.

Then,I dont know the reason , FP was available.

The bootloader remains unlocked.

I have not been able to install TWRP even now.

This is my case.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
I updated to ... C23 indian version, and the apk unlock bootloader, not working. how root? (android 10)
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] pl.cats90:
i have the same problem, The phone restarts, the update screen appears and after 2-3 seconds the phone restarts again.

I resolved by changing the passcode in the lockscreen to a gesture code.

After that when i restart to recovery and the text is normal
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
U need to use the deeptest apk for realme ui. ColorOS one will not work.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
https://c.realme.com/in/post-details/1199644629624946688

This apk not working on Android 10 ( c23.. rom).
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tacc:
Thanks.

It works after disabling my pattern lock. That's dumb.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Guys, what's the difference between C23 and C24?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
There's no new patch notes so we don't know... Although it's reported that no master reset is needed for the side bar to be available.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Thank you.

The ROM I downloaded from the official website is named "RMX1931EX_11_OTA_1230_all_u4DJcrigsE54.ozip", how do I know it's Global or China version? Thank you again. Onboarding now on Realme phones. Cheers from Brasil.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
EX in the filename is global and CN is for China as far as I know.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Yes, you are right.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
C23 is for Indian whereas c24 is for Europe version. Changelog is same for both.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Do you know where I can find the C24 zip?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
https://www.realme.com/eu/support/software-update

For Europe (??).
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
Yeah I know it was released in India but the ROM files have always been identical and installable on all X2 Pros apart from China so something is new/updated.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Below
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Yep, I am not able to find any difference.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Maybe it fixes the bug of c23 where we need to factory reset to get new features.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Thank you. Do you know if I can install either one or another (C23 or C24)? My X2 Pro is 12gb/256, I read somewhere that I had to install Europe version but I don't know if this is true.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
If you have global then yes you can install c23 or c24 but you might aswell go for c24... If China you can't install c23,24.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Yes, mine is global. I mean, mine is the 12/256 they said is not "global", it's a "shop" ROM. Thank you for all answers!
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
Not sure what you mean... Mines also 12gb 256gb model and is global.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmedshaltout91:
I can't find the new assistive ball at setting after Android 10
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jopac84:
Hi guys, i just updated my X2 Pro with C24, and i got a buggy sound im a game War Robots, where the game is very demanding and it sounds like the sound is "lagging", it is choppy. Anyone similar experiences? I tried deleting just data, and reinstalling game.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
It's not on the European version for some reason.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmedshaltout91:
Hey

Hey I downloaded the Indian update from the official website and if any update for global plz tell me
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
The assistive bell is on the the RealmeUi but you need to select India as your region and possibly language.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmedshaltout91:
Hey

I tried the region and language and it doesn't appear
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
Try a reboot of the phone else it probably needs master resetting and setting region/language from the initial setup screen.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Did u try factory resetting?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ngagephone:
I'm on c24 from UK site with region set as UK and yes I master reset but it's not there for me... There's some who have it using the c24 from the UK site on India realme community.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmedshaltout91:
Hey

How they have it o couldn't get it
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ipnface:
Has anyone got an ota update fort this in UK or is it all downloads and self install so far?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] userAnd:
RMX1931EX_11.C.25 rolling out in Europe

https://www.realme.com/eu/support/software-update

Update log:

Security

● Android security patch: April, 2020

System

● Updated charging animation

Camera

● Fixed occational black face when HDR shooting

Known issue fixed

● Optimized the Bluetooth headset delay while playing PUBG

● Fixed occasional Splashing Screen when Rebooting Phone

● Fixed occasional app crash issue

● Fixed occasionally unable to evoke the voice assistant

● Fixed the microphone icon displays on the status bar after the third-party apps exit
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] skyownz:
Updated already. Everything is fine atm.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ManuBBXX:
Just flashed and so far so good

Great software support from realme
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Aidey68:
Wow, two updates in the same month!!
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Aidey68:
I've used the phone's web browser and installed Realme UI update, as I waited until last Saturday hoping to get a notification via OTA, but having about the improvements, my patience ran out

Once you download and use the file manager to tap on the file, that's it really :cool:
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] NoOneCanHelpMe:
has vibration always been so weak? I just got the phone and updated. my other half Galaxy S10 has vibration 10 times stronger :( I'm thinking of returning it, I'll be missing notifications etc :(
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] davwheat:
Still bad battery performance. 7-8 hr screen on time compared to AOSiP's 12 hrs and ColorOS's 10-11 hrs.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ipnface:
Doesn't work for me, tried various ways and various downloads. Just fails and immediately reboots.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali.dilshad18:
Which version?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] iggyone:
I'm still on Android 9, A.10, global version, using phone in Europe, everything intact. Waiting for official OTA.

Should I be worried?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gasland:
I can't see any new charging animations

Have you ?

Or am I doing something wrong?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leocris:
Why wait for the ota? Just download the file from oficial site and flash through the original file manager.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] archel76:
I confirm, still an excessive battery drain, bad update
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jzuijlek:
Any have missing smart sidebar? It should be under convenience settings.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EViollet:
Try disabling security lock and try again.

Regards
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raxeffect:
I updated my phone from c23 to c25 by downloading the official file.

I had issues with Google pay recognising my phone as rooted ( it was rooted earlier in c10, but now it is not; the recovery is also the official one) the problem persists. The bootloader is unlocked

Any recommendations on rectifying this without losing my installations or data?

Do I Need to root it and install magisk hide? I went into bootloops when I tried it earlier.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tidschi:
It's because of unlocked BL.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Shijune:
So we are back to no fingerprint when rooting the phone. Are we expecting this to be fixed anytime soon?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Aidey68:
I just went to this site using my phone yesterday to download the update

https://www.realme.com/uk/support/software-update
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] overcustom:
I was on c24, and now on c25.

I feel everything is much more laggy, even after a factory reset.

Anyone else facing this problem?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] P1f:
Magisk hide no longer works since the March security patch it is no more possible to hide root anymore.

There is an article on XDA news about it, look for it
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricky_Karmator:
Yes especially when i go back to home from Telegram or any other social app.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
hello, can you describe it in more details please?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] karltabby:
Guys i installed the latest update . 25 but i have UI STUTTER when opening and closing some apps, can i install the update again and maybe fix the issue? I dont have this issue at . 24, any advice?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmedshaltout91:
Hello

I jave updated to c23 and then c24 and at 2 updates the assistive ball doesn't exist at the phone any help plz
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jzuijlek:
What ball?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] pr0orz1337:
C26 is available via OTA

[IMG="C26 available"]https://dl.xda-cdn.com/5/0/0/6/0/5/5/Screenshot_2020-04-27-17-41-06-92.jpg?key=jO21MHVqiDuesD3Pw_s8Dw&ts=1588022701[/IMG]
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
What? Where is it available to download? What's the full changelog? Maybe it has fixed the stutter when oppening apps?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] karltabby:
I hope so,but file not yet available for download atm
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] pr0orz1337:
Settings -> software update.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
OTA updates don't appear to me, I don't know why. I live in Brazil, maybe that's the reason...?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] p3tey.cRo:
Same thing for me in Croatia. Never got an OTA. I've been waiting for update from A.08 to A.09/10 for a month, maybe longer after they published it on their website. Never got it. I wrote Realme support about the problem and they advised me to do it manually. Since then, I'm not waiting for anything.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
I saw a girl in a Brazilian forum who got an OTA update (I don't know how) and she applied for it and the phone went into a hard brick. As she didn't have the bootloader umlocked, she couldn't even access the recovery. Probably she lost her phone. This gave me goosebumps.

:eek:
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] rande83:
No C26 ota update in germany available yet.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ahmedshaltout91:
Hey

The assistive ball at convinenice tool
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Caleidoscopio:
Guys I am on c26, but I still notice stutter when going through the apps via multitasking and also when I go to the homescreen
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hrvoje007:
im also from croatia, kupio prije 2 mjeseca nikad ota doso, sve sam rucno skido preko njihove stranice pa prek file managera instaliro, malo glupo
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jzuijlek:
Just download it here and install via the stock file manager.

https://www.realme.com/eu/support/software-update
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
I installed c 26.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Any stutter still?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] p3tey.cRo:
Yes. Since C.25, occasionally stuttering on opening/closing apps (default launcher). Nova launcher works without any stuttering.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fhreire:
Thank you for the info, mate. What about the battery drain? Is it any better?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] p3tey.cRo:
I've always been satisfied with the battery, so I can't tell for sure. Personally, with moderate usage, in 24h around 30% left. SOT maybe 5.5-6.5 hours. With 50W charger, I can't complain ?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LoVerMaKi:
Update from c24 to c26 only 1 lag when close all app then nothing.

Bootloader unlock since a10 but no root bo magisk since c24

Battery ok for me because not playing game. WhatsApp Facebook a little Snapchat et web browsing
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] migside:
Battery life isn't good on last build .1 day battery life different between Android 9 and 10 version:(
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hrvoje007:
does anyone know how to fix stuttering in default launcher it is really annoying, on c.24 there was not such thing, but c.26 is really dissapointing
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hamizal:
can u flash stock global rom realme ui from colour os rom?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hamizal:
im try but only decompress option appear. how?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jakelamotta:
did you use the stock file manager from realme or a third party one ?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hamizal:
stock file manager
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hamizal:
my phone currently using rmx1931_global_G.15..im try to find entire google but not found any source and version. help me..this version for india, europe or chinese mod rom?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
https://www.realme.com/in/support/software-update

India software

And Europe software

https://www.realme.com/eu/support/software-update
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hamizal:
both india and eu fail. now last try for china rom
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EngMarcilio:
here i solve this when i enable high performance on the battery settings
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shiwik:
I got this phone yesterday and got an update to realme UI. Post update battery life is terrible and device is constantly warm

Is .26 the first update for realmeUI? Any past versions where the battery life was better? Post factory reset i am now getting ~4hrs SOT with very light usage (no gaming)
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hrvoje007:
Yes, color os 6, had much better battery life (6-8)sot, im currently on .26 and my battery now is on 29% with 3h 25m sot, i hope they fix it in next update, or i will sell it and buy pixel 4a when it comes out definetly
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Arcide:
Oof, buying a Pixel for the battery life :rolleyes:

Just check what happened with the 3a after android 10 update. Every sequential update brings worse battery life to every phone, it's not exclusive to this phone.

Btw, you probably have some kind of an issue with an app draining the battery, those are not normal SOT values.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ste27.jah:
Hello everyone, New update

RMX1931EX_11.C.27

Update Log

Security

● Android security patch: May, 2020

Screen Recording

● Optimized screen recording feature

Known issue fixed

● Fixed the issue of touch failure in some scenes during PUBG

● Fixed the issue that phone restarted after the screen stuck during WeChat calls

System

● Fixed some known issues and improved system stability

https://download.c.realme.com/osupdate/RMX1931EX_11_OTA_1270_all_XZQ2lsNPwhvA.ozip
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
I flashing the new firmware C27,. I flashing the Orange img, and the command, , fastboot reboot, , and put the button volume up + power,, and the phone are in stock recovery, not in custom recovery. Any idea to fix it.
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] thanasis12.:
I fix it

rosoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.836]

(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. Με επιφύλαξη κάθε νόμιμου δικαιώματος.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>cd C:\adb

C:\adb>fastboot devices

********1 fastboot

C:\adb>fastboot flash recovery OrangeFox-R10.1_1-Unofficial-RMX1931.img

target reported max download size of 805306368 bytes

sending 'recovery' (81920 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.767s]

writing 'recovery'...

OKAY [ 0.278s]

finished. total time: 2.057s

C:\adb>fastboot boot OrangeFox-R10.1_1-Unofficial-RMX1931.img

downloading 'boot.img'...

OKAY [ 1.738s]

booting...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 1.744s

C:\adb>fastboot boot OrangeFox-R10.1_1-Unofficial-RMX1931.img

downloading 'boot.img'...

OKAY [ 1.756s]

booting...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 1.774s

C:\adb>fastboot reboot

rebooting...

finished. total time: 0.003s

C:\adb>fastboot reboot

rebooting...

finished. total time: 0.003s

C:\adb>

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.836]

(c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. Με επιφύλαξη κάθε νόμιμου δικαιώματος.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>cd C:\adb

C:\adb>fastboot devices

*******1 fastboot

C:\adb>fastboot flash vbmeta vbmeta.img

target reported max download size of 805306368 bytes

sending 'vbmeta' (0 KB)...

OKAY [ 0.008s]

writing 'vbmeta'...

OKAY [ 0.004s]

finished. total time: 0.016s

C:\adb>fastboot reboot

rebooting...

finished. total time: 0.003s

C:\adb>
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Drax111:
Hello guys is this new update .27 better then the outhers? Is the baterry drain fix?
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] YasuHamed:
for RMX1931EX_11_C.25 (2.92 GB)

http://otafsg1.realmemobile.com/pat...X_11_OTA_1250_all_2vaZAn5KwhPi_596db362e.ozip

can i flash this also via fastboot command line? , after decrypting to zip and unzipping it ?

as explained here ?

https://xdaforums.com/realme-x2-pro/how-to/stock-fastboot-flashable-images-realme-t4003107
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] userAnd:
RMX1931EX_11.C.29 rolling out in Europe

https://www.realme.com/eu/support/software-update

Update log:

Security

● Updated Android security Patch: July, 2020

Game Space

● Optimized the probabilistic crash issue in Game Space

● Fixed the probabilistic setting data loss issue after update

Settings

● Optimized flight mode, Bluetooth status will not be affected after flight mode is turned on

● Fixed the probabilistic crash issue when enter settings

Bluetooth

● Fixed the voice jam issue when connected to Bluetooth headset using LDAC codec

● Fixed the low minimum volume issue when connected to the Bluetooth headset

System

● Fixed some interface display issue in dark mode
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] YasuHamed:
i am getting gesture navigation error whenever i try

wbu>?

talkback error
[Realme X2 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] userAnd:
Everything works fine.
[Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble] 24v:
Hi, I have been away from modding and roms for quite a while, and to be honest I have forgotten most of what I knew about it all. I have a T520 and it is currently rooted and running a Android 4 rom. I want to use it to view my Eufy Cams but in order for that app to work it needs to be on Android 5.0 or higher. I am looking for a simple setup and a stable and basic rom if possible. I literally use this tablet for nothing else, so the most important thing is being able to use that app. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
[Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble] hamudistan:
Look at this, its doing a great job for most of the sm-t520 users here: https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-pr...7-1-xsm-t520-unofficial-lineage-14-1-t3538770

Its Android 7.1.1
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] freedompals:
I have Vivo nex 1805 i'm not sure if the new os needs a lot of time.,....kindly if someone know how to register for beta as I found on chines forum this can be done but I was not able to register cause it's asking for china phone registration:

https://bbs.vivo.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5926544&fromuid=361700434
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] cho9736:
you can actually get the app from vivo app store
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] smisi:
Funtouch OS 10/Android 10 Beta Registration APK ATTENTION: ONLY FOR THE CHINESE PHONE VERSIONS

[Compatible Devices]

NEX A(Fingerprint scanner on the back), NEX S(Fingerprint scanner under the Display), NEX dual screen version, S5
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] siegie65:
Hello I`m updateed my Nex S with the OsUpdate_1.3.apk it is the Version 8.8.7 the size is 3,38 GB all apps and daten are Safe and everything seems to Work : D.

The batterie drain is awesome only 1 % after 15 Minutes .
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] talib rehmani:
Please share some shots and battery usage!! How is overall experience
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] siegie65:
Hello the battery consumption is noticeably better 20% consumption in 6 hours. I would say that it was worth the wait, it is still a beta in May, the final version should come. Data and apps are retained and so far everything runs smoothly via SMS or Whatsapp. GPS and Bluetooth also work perfectly. I am a long-distance driver so I have good opportunities for testing. The only thing that bothers me a little is the designs they are no longer in the former folder and also no longer in * .itz format, they are unpacked and are now in the download folder, I suspect I'll get it out! You definitely don't do anything wrong with that update can also wait for the final.

I come from Germany the text was translated with Google hope understandable.

Unfortunately I have not found an option to upload pictures think because I only post the 2 times.
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] freedompals:
is it possible if we use the downloaded file you used to update for our phones?

send us the pictures we can upload: ibraheem_1982@hotmail.com
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] freedompals:
the app is not working
[Vivo Nex Questions & Answers] freedompals:
Thank you for reply, it's chines version?

anyway it's not working, can you help? did you manage to update?