yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Every time i see the Ap.le ECG... I must smile... :LOL:

Here cool Video in German Language...

Age 22

... :LOL:

Still I think this is 1 reason why Samsu.g still in 3 CSC... KOO XAR and ZTO...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] elmapache:
I have Active2 R820 and Mi 9T Pro. I am still on 4.0.0.8 BTG1. Ecg and Bp both work perfectly. What process should I follow to update watch firmware and keep/reinstall Bp and Ecg? And in what order? Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] 1roddy:
my watch is an r820 tizen 5.5.01 sw version r820xxu1ctj5. Is it possible to install ECG and BP in Canada?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] baysat:
thanks. the update from V29 to V31 was no problem and its working :) and syncing with the Health app (V 6.12.3.000 Alpha)
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
@baysat

Please, can you describe how you block APK forced updates?

My SM-G920F is not rooted... and I spent now more time with Evolution 2...

Evolution 2: Shooting games - Apps on Google Play

A mix of strategy, RPG and action shooter with the original battle system.

play.google.com

Thanx in advance.

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Meanwhile BTK1 for SM-R840 and SM-R850 leaked...

According to this Firmware... Samsu.g not expand to more countrie(s)/CSC...

Still only 3 CSC supported...

KOO for Korea

ZTO for Brasil

XAR for USA

And still in USA kastriert... only ECG and not Blood Pressure official/public.

2020 only few days left...

So still I think this year is over... and no magic surprices will come this year...

SHM TPK 31 still online as big "Debug" Version...

So IMHO no mistake...

IMHO I expect also no release this year from new GWA2 Firmware... seems too new Under Construction/QA...

http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/XAR/SM-R820/version.test.xml

http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/XAR/SM-R830/version.test.xml

R820XXU1DTL2/R820OXA1DTL2

R830XXU1DTL2/R830OXA1DTL2

Tizen 5 Development for GW and GWA started earlier this year... IMHO since weekS/monthS...

But seems also not come this year to End User... (maybe never).

Only as info.

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] riteshbafna:
I have SM-R830 running Tizen 5.5.0.1. After updating to this tizen version I somehow got the official ECG app installed. My understanding was that I would get BP and O2 apps too, but did not. So I followed instructions from this link to get BP app installed https://xdaforums.com/t/galaxy-watch-features-ecg-bp.4051141/page-11#post-82502465 and looked at youtube instructions over here

But I am getting this error when I run sdb install BP.tpk. I have Samsung S9+ running Android 8 and Region is USA. Not sure what I should do.

The version of SDB client (2.2.60) is not same with that of SDB server (4.2.16).
It may cause version compatibility problems.
It is recommended to use SDB server with version 2.2.60. *
* The version of SDB client (2.2.60) is not same with that of SDB server (4.2.16).
It may cause version compatibility problems.
It is recommended to use SDB server with version 2.2.60. *
pulled bp.tpk 100% 1MB
1 file(s) pulled. 0 file(s) skipped.
bp.tpk 3055 KB/s (2035556 bytes in 0.650s)
* The version of SDB client (2.2.60) is not same with that of SDB server (4.2.16).
It may cause version compatibility problems.
It is recommended to use SDB server with version 2.2.60. *
path is /opt/usr/home/owner/apps_rw/tmp/bp.tpk
__return_cb req_id[1] pkg_type[tpk] pkgid[com.samsung.health.samd.bp] key[start] val[update]
__return_cb req_id[1] pkg_type[tpk] pkgid[com.samsung.health.samd.bp] key[install_percent] val[10]
__return_cb req_id[1] pkg_type[tpk] pkgid[com.samsung.health.samd.bp] key[error] val[-29]
__return_cb req_id[1] pkg_type[tpk] pkgid[com.samsung.health.samd.bp] key[end] val[fail]
processing result : Old Version is greater than update request version [-29] failed

Based on the failed error message, it seems like my watch already has BP app somehow that I am unable to see on my watch?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Samsung Health is getting serious about the ‘Samsung’ part come January

Almost four years after S Health became Samsung Health, the general-purpose fitness app will be implementing a major user policy ...

www.sammobile.com

First Health 6.15 "info"...

So we will see what happens with sync ECG and/or BP... in not supported countries...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] the7thson:
Hi there, thanks for this. I'm using a Galaxy Watch Active 2 and Samsung Galaxy S10 phone.

I enabled installing unknown sources in the Wearable app, then installed the 2 apks. The modded SHM apk installs fine and I can see the ECG and BP sections in the app on the phone. ECG works great from watch to phone.

The BP and ECG apk installs and tries to push something to the watch (can see this in my notifications), then says installation failed. I've tried to install v29 inside and v31 inside, both give the same message. Any idea why that might be? Is it because Samsung Health is already installed on the watch?

Screenshots attached
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] hackerjj22:
Hi,

GW3, brand new, without root. I cannot install BP.tkp, tried a bunch of tpk of this discussion, and also uninstall and unhide, receiving the same message that permission denied.

View attachment 5157763

I appreciate your help with this.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] SzeMeng76:
Not really understand your statement. so at the end your SHM work connected with your watch already? (as you mentioned ECG work greats from watch to phone)

do your watch have Samsung Health Monitor now? it is definitely and completely different from Samsung Health. If your watch don't have Samsung Health Monitor, how u get ECG working well from watch the phone?!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] the7thson:
Yes I have both SHM and Samsung Health. Yes ECG works well on the watch and it sends the report to the phone.

But when I run the TPKpusher_v9_BPandECG_31_inside.apk file on my phone, it says Warning: Failed to install the app. So there is no BP widget available on the watch and no way to launch BP on the watch.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] hackerjj22:
Same scenario...
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
IMHO "easiest" way to get rid of preinstalled ECG with same name as BP...

Rooted Watch Firmware...

Easy means easy for me...

1 example:

https://xdaforums.com/t/list-of-tricks-on-sideloading-apps.4191267/

1 more example:

https://xdaforums.com/t/gear-s3-roo...ear-port-thread.3584588/page-48#post-83661373

In theory few other ways possible to clean f%6ing CSC partiton from preinstalled BP/ECG package...

1 idea is to use Combination Firmware for instance...

IMHO the longer way, but used from more then 1 user... seems something like this:

https://xdaforums.com/t/enable-ecg-...galaxy-watch-3-active-2-step-by-step.4168567/

Somewhere is post or thread where someone renamed TPK...

I am tooo la ehm busy to search for this...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nxt:
So I was successful in installing ECG via these instructions: https://www.xda-developers.com/enab...h-3-watch-active-2-paired-non-samsung-phones/

I can't figure out how to install BP. I found the bp.tpk and tried to sign it the same way, but when I install via Device Manager, the app doesn't show up.

Can someone please write how to install BP? So many questions and replies in this thread it's hard to figure out.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Huy.tq:
You can try with file BB.tpk link here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IQtWqZ04hKZnLwldYUIkzeBl32kTI8fX/view?usp=drivesdk

It renamed inside from BP to BB

Note: Please sign it before installing via sdb or tizen studio
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nxt:
That worked! Thanks for the quick reply!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
https://xdaforums.com/t/working-bp-tpk-for-non-samsung-phones.4184729/page-2#post-83903197

Here is the Original post... from user who found method with renamed TPK...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Huy.tq:
Exact is page 2 post #37 of @vivakalman :giggle: :giggle:

Thanks Adfree
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] the7thson:
Thank you both so much! I have downloaded the renamed BB.tpk and also installed Tizen Studio. Now I need to "sign it and install", are there instructions available on how to sign and install the renamed BB.tpk?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
https://xdaforums.com/t/enable-ecg-...galaxy-watch-3-active-2-step-by-step.4168567/

Look here for instance...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] marckusdavis:
OK, just got Samsung's BP working now (have been using My BP Lab) along with their ECG (which I've had working) by using the bp.tpk from this thread and then signing it and installing it. It gave an error message on the watch when I first fired it up, but when I fired up SHM (Caravana SHM 175 mod 4) on my non-Samsung phone (Moto G7), it kicked in and worked perfectly, and successfully posts readings to SHM. So I now have working BP and ECG on my SM-R820 XAR region (never been changed) running stock Tizen 5.5.0.1 (not having had BP or ECG working or installed on any prior versions) and CTJ5 firmware. This watch just became the best thing on the market now IMO.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] hackerjj22:
Thank you!

When I try to open the app in the Watch, there is a message that said 'System is not ready. Try again later.' :(
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Huy.tq:
You can try delete SHM on Phone, then reinstall SHM and reconnect
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] dd66:
I used to have this message but when I "Try again later", a moment comes when it works...
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] coliny59:
Thank you for this. I didn't want to waste me time trying it and finding it not working. I did the same as you and got BP and ECG working...great Christmas gift!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] 73sydney:
Fwiw i got ECG working (suspect BP will work too when i bother to try installing it via the same method) by doing the following on my rooted Pizel 2 XL:

Followed this post below to the letter, i expected it to not work and be harder, but considering some of the devices ive rooted and punished with other things over the years with android, this was a doddle...nice bonus before xmas...i bought the watch last week second hand...think the previous owner got tired of waiting for BP/ECG to become official.....

How to enable ECG on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 3, Watch Active 2 paired with non-Samsung phones

Here's a step-by-step tutorial on how you can enable ECG monitoring on your Samsung Galaxy Watch 3 or Galaxy Watch Active 2 with a non-Samsung phone.

www.xda-developers.com

And then installed the no root detection modded Samsung Health Monitor from this post: https://xdaforums.com/t/root-detect...-caravana-14th-dec-2020.4202685/post-84102075

Top tip: Before you try and link the phone to the health monitor, reboot both your phone and watch

Working in Australia (XSA)

My Active 2 Details:

Tizen 5.5.0.1

R820XXU1CT14

SM-820NZKAXSA

p.s. Due to our buildings captive portal, i couldnt connect the watch to wifi, so i used my Pixel as a hotspot and connected both my watch and PC to it (and also had to disable bluetooth on the watch before it would be add-able when in Tizen Device Manager)...easy peasy

Edit/Update: BP would not install, weirdly....

Edit/Update #2: BP installed and working, was a package name collision with the preinstalled package. Followed this and then signed it and installed...done

https://xdaforums.com/t/working-bp-tpk-for-non-samsung-phones.4184729/post-83903197
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nellinodj:
[QUOTE = "Matrix7410, post: 83835079, membro: 10357107"]

Ciao,

Ho aggiornato a R820..1CTJ5, mi rimaneva solo l'ECG e la BP è scomparsa dall'orologio ... Ho collegato l'orologio al wifi dal PC ed ho eseguito il comando

pkgcmd -u -t tpk -n com.samsung.health.samd.bp, l'applicazione Samsung Health Monitor è stata disinstallata dall'orologio .. poi l'ho lanciata dal telefono TPKpusher_v7_BPandECG_23_inside.apk e l'icona è apparsa nell'orologio con il BP + Menu ECG e tutto di nuovo, ho un telefono Samsung A71: buono::)

[/CITAZIONE]

how did you ac change csc with firmware R820XXU1CTJ5 which guide tell me all details thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Seems I can prevent Samsung Health update by disable autoupdate on BOTH stores:

Google Playstore

AND

Samsung Galaxy Apps sh i..

Also seems... the big package SHM TPK Version 31 not sync by Developer Mode Trick...

So I have installed again Version:

23

aka

package="com.samsung.health.samd.bp" version="1.1.0023"

So I am using now SHM TPK 23 and:

6.12.3.000

And I miss the old XDA... 😭

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] SzeMeng76:
So weird. But I just done BP test yesterday.

It can synced as normal as previously, I had updated to v31 quite sometimes.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Maybe I did more changes in S Health APK... no idea.

My SM-R820 is set to CSC:

AUT Swiss

And Phone also AUT as CSC...

For now SHM TPK Version 23 is working fine for me... and BP is Syncing to Samsung Health...

We will see what happens in 2021... if new S Health 6.15 will come...

Maybe we can see first results in January...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] ernani:
Are you on the latest version of Samsung Health or on 6.12.3.000 that permits sync with SHM?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] 73sydney:
Im on Samsung Health 6.12.3.001 (latest here, at least) on my Active 2 in Australia (XSA) and no issues here

No one was more surprised than me when i didnt even have to change my CSC to get BP/ECG working

For reference, all i did to get it working in Australia at least is covered in my post in previous page: https://xdaforums.com/t/galaxy-watch-features-ecg-bp.4051141/post-84139955
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Madridii:
Hello guys,

I have sm-r830 watch I think it is (MID) region with latest firmware, I install monitor apk mod and using tizen device manager I installed tpk of egc and it ia working fine, but bp installed failed, any solution?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nafets66:
Hi All,

i installed BP.tpk as Erden wrote in Poste #208 (https://xdaforums.com/t/galaxy-watch-features-ecg-bp.4051141/page-11#post-82502465).

Everything was fine!

Later I had some problems connectig my phone and would reset just the bluetooth connection. Unfortunately i accidentially resettet my watch at all. So I tried to install the BP.tpk again. But it will not work.

The SDB-Screen looks like this:

View attachment 5169599

I resettet my wath multiple times, i deinstalled all samsung apps from my phone an tried it again and again. Allways the same. BP will not work anymore.

Has anybody an idea?????

Help!!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nxt:
Hi everyone, do I have all the latest versions?

Samsung Health Monitor phone app: 1.1.0.175Caravana

Samsung BP Monitor watch app: 1.0.72

Samsung ECG Monitor watch app: 1.0.0004
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nafets66:
In addition:

my watch:

SM-R820

One UI

2.0

Tizen

5.5.0.1

Software

R820XXU1CTJ5

SM-R820NZKUXEG

Knox

2.5.0

Knox Tizen Wearable SDK

2.5.0

SE for Tizen 2.0.0

TIMA

3.0.0.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] thanito:
I have the same versions now and although in the past SHM was syncing bp data with Shealth, now seems that it is not working.. @adfree any ideas how to solve this?

Thanks & merry Christmas!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nxt:
Yeah I was curious why SHM didn't sync BP to Samsung Health so I can then use Health Sync to sync to Google Fit.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Caution...

Not tested... saw on APKMIRROR...

Samsung Health 6.12.4.011

IMHO I am scared for incoming 6.15...

Best Regards

Edit 1.

Wow... over 100 MB APK... but I can not see something usefull...

Only tested in Memu Android Emulator on my PC....
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nxt:
I just updated my Pixel with it, BP and ECG all still working fine. SHM doesn't sync BP readings to SH still though.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] fedex-bermu:
Hi, Im new, after reading a lot, I did that on my SM-R820 and I have ecg and bp working fine, but bp doesnt sync to Samsung Health on my S20+.

Any help please?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Gary02468:
I still have the latest official SH (6.12.3.001). Would there be any benefit to installing a later, unreleased version? (I have a GWA2 with properly working BP & ECG, R820OXA1CTH8, Tizen 5.5.0.1, SHM 1.1.0.175Caravana, BP/ECG 1.1.0031.)
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] xOx1141:
I've got an announcement that current training challenges will be unavailable from 7th January as 6.15 version is going to change them so basically that tells us when Samsung is going to update the app
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] bronxx2000:
Hi,

I am slowly going insane. I tried all this with my son's Samsung. It works wonderfully, but my mother and grandmother have nothing from it. Sideload simply does not work. I have the same picture as many here. Some authorization to delete anything comes.

Have gone through all the files. SDB in version 2260. Ne other I do not have. Tizen Studio is only available in the latest version. The connection to the clock works wonderfully, but in the CMD is then unfortunately end.

Here are the clocks data:

Model: SM-R830

One UI 2.0

tizen 5.5.0.1

R830XXU1CTJ5

knox 2.5.0

knox tizen wearable sdk 2.5.0

se for tizen 2.0.0

tima 3.0.0

I hope someone can help me. It basically works on the watches, but now I need to get the sideload working somehow.

Thank you.

Greetings bronxx2000
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] nafets66:
can anyone help me? Please!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] danwalls:
Ciao, ti prego sono disperato, ho assolutamente bisogno di cambiare il software al mio galaxy Watch 3 LTE per renderlo un modello italiano. Avendolo acquistato dall’America non è compatibile qui in Italia, dovrei cambiare il software. Ho cercato letteralmente ovunque e non sono riuscito a trovare qualcuno che possa aiutarmi. Ora ho appena letto qualche parola in italiano e non ci volevo credere!

Tu sapresti gentilmente aiutarmi a risolvere questo problema?? Se non riesco a cambiare il software praticamente il Watch serve solo a leggere l’ora, l’80% delle funzioni non sono disponibili.

Ti prego se sai aiutarmi in qualche modo sono qui!!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Bi0haZarD:
Only english please, or at least use Google translate before posting in foreign language. Forum Rules, thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Seems Samsung Health 6.15.0.091 is available...

Not tested yet...

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Lj899:
I'm sorry if this has been posted already but it's such a long thread I may have missed it.

I cannot seem to install the BP app on my Samsung watch 3. Can anyone help?! I managed to side load the ECG app but BP app on watch not there. App on phone says no compatible device.

Useful info:

- I'm in UK

- phone is Pixel 5 (android 11)

- watch is SM-R840, Tizen 5.5.0.1

- Samsung health monitor app on phone works ok for ECG

- ECG on watch works fine

I'm assuming I need to load a plugin or app of some sort to the watch to activate the BP feature as the app on the phone has the BP tab?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] tower5:
thanks !......but I do not find it....where ( in which Country) is available ? is it an automatic update ...as usual..or it requires specific actions ?

Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] tower5:
...EDIT: update just received !!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
I was able to download and install in Germany...

But was not able to easy find...

So I attached 6.15...

Also strange... ECG seems call SHM... and BP...

:unsure:

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] baysat:
@adfree

Update is installed.

It looks like an Alpha Version again, as the "Set feature" functionality is in it, but sync of BP is not working, even with activated dev mode
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] bronxx2000:
I've send the 2 watches back to MediaMarkt.... I can't buy them for mother and grandmother without the safety that BP and EEG will work. Without that functions, a SmartBand is the same, but cheaper... much cheaper....
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Gary02468:
My phone just updated to SH 6.15.0.091. BP & ECG continue to work properly on my watch (R820OXA1CTH8).
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] spacebar2011:
Just got this (US firmware in Germany). Let's see what all is broken lol..

View attachment 5188447
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Blenky:
I've had the same update. On my S20+ I'm still on SH 6.12.3.001 Alpha.

The update as you would expect overwrote the dual watch ECG/BP tpk with ECG only. Using sdb2260 I removed the new watch SHM. Then I used TPKpusher_v9_BPandECG_29_inside.apk on phone to add the dual tpk back to the watch.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] TwistyValhalla:
How can I enable the BP sync again in dev mode? I think I saw it earlier in the thread but can't seem to find it again.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] bimmerboii:
I flashed my Watch Active 2 to ZTO (Brazil) to unlock the Blood Pressure function. Where can I download the latest Samsung Health Monitor app or apk for my phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] paul92:
@adfree are you still trying to make SpO2 working on GWA2? Thanks for your answer!
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] jonjadot:
Just got the 5.5.0.2 update in Canada, BP + ECG still working. Sideloaded bp.tpk + ecg.tpk separately on 4.0.0.8. Working through all updates so far.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] adfree:
Somebody with Watch on CSC KOO or ZTO can please describe how BP looks and work now in Samsung Health 6.15?

I mean the Sync thing...

ECG is IMHO "removed"... if I press it simple calls the SHM APK...

BP I see only my old results...

@paul92

You know allready this Thread?

https://xdaforums.com/t/spo2-tpk.4170889/

Best Regards
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] davidmclaren:
Guys my ECG is not working. Before when i had 4.0.0.8 it used to work. But now it doesn't. Has anyone found a way to fix this? Im sure im out of warranty so i dont think is worth taking to samsung as my situation is a bit complicated ( bought the watch in USA but i leave in Europe ) is there some part i need to buy? Any help appreciated
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] ernani:
This is the case for me as well (R820, KOO, DUA3). Although Samsung Health 6.15.0.091 seems to be an alpha version (it has the "Set Features" button), with Developer Mode enabled in the DataPlatform menu, it doesn't allow BP syncing as 6.12 did. As far as ECG is concerned, clicking on it in Samsung Health always redirected me to SHM ECG page.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] SzeMeng76:
phone upgrade to One UI 3.0, after hard reset the app auto updated. Lmao.

no longer can sync but I found latest SH app have Fitness tab, have quite lots of fitness program, not bad :)
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Gary02468:
Same here, R820XXU1DUA3 but with SH 6.15.0.091, BP/ECG 31, phone N20U. BP & ECG still work (after replacing the TPK as you did, and recalibrating BP), but still no sync with SH. (I also had to CLOSE the SHM app on my phone, and allow the watch's ECG app to reopen the phone app, in order to set up ECG again, to tell it which wrist the watch is on.)
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] ernani:
Hmmm... I still have BP/ECG v. 29 on the watch (R820XXU1DUA3, KOO) but I haven't updated the watch's SHM app via the Galaxy Store because I was too lazy to revert to the Korean Galaxy Store via vpn. Did you update the SHM app on the watch prior to the firmware update?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Blenky:
I wanted the latest SH on my phone as it has improved. I can still record both BP and ECG and I can live with BP not syncing with SH.

I did go into 'Set Features' and under 'DataPlatform' set 'Developer mode' to on. Made no difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Gary02468:
I'd installed v31 (via TPKpusher) back in November.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] bimmerboii:
How do i get to measure VO2max?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Matttis:
You have to run. As far as I know 20 minutes without stopping at high intensity.
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] the7thson:
Did the latest watch update on the Gwatch Active 2 (SM-R820) break anything for anyone? Does BP and ECG still work and still sync with SHM and the BP app on the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Watch] Lj899:
With the apparent lack of a workaround to install BP on a UK Watch 3 on a non Samsung device, I contacted Samsung support to ask. They said ECG and BP will be rolled out in UK in their February update and will work on all devices.

However, the agent I was speaking to didn't fill me with confidence on the 'february update' or the 'works on all devices' bits. (Although BP and ECG are still advertised as Watch 3 features in the UK according to Samsung website so maybe it'll happen one day).