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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] cletusindia:
Hi everyone, yes I was really excited and looking forward for the new device to upgrade my xperia 1. As there were some rumors of sony finally using one of their higher 48/64 MP sensors, but no they again opted for the 12 MP.

Please note this is not a rant just an honest share with you guys on this community, i am not sure who Sony is targeting, definitely not the general public.

I was waiting for this announcement to make a decision on my phone for 2020.

So in conclusion, I hope most of the software improvements like in the camera and Cinemapro can be ported to the original Xperia 1 here in this community, to give my existing Xperia 1 some more utility.

However, I did just go out and pre-ordered the Samsung s20 Ultra, Hope Xpeia 1 Mark 3 in 2021 do a better job!
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
More megapixels doesn't mean better image so don't just focus on the number

They will probably struggle to sell the phone again based on their decisions.

Camera software won't be that good and the lack of 90hz+ screen won't go down well.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] nreuge:
12 MPx is more than enough to get good photos. Bigger sensors is pure marketing strategy.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] cletusindia:
Its true, more MP does not mean better photos, but this time i personally might wait and later buy the Xperia 1 M2 on the used market if the real world experience and hardware is up to mark.

Again just my personal opinion, also the community with with Xperia 1 was at a standstill, very few users, overall not very positive. Have been a Sony user for years now right from Z5 Premium and all following flagships.

I get my S20 ultra the 13th March, excited to move to a new manufacturer.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
I prefer professional features, I do not want clipping with noisezoom

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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
https://www.sony-asia.com/electronics/smartphones/xperia-1

Beautiful phone, I will wait another year with the Xperia 1View attachment 4957507

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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
No point upgrading when it's pretty much the same phone
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Hildr:
It should sell better than the first one. 4A/h battery, jack, SD, zeiss lens and bigger sensor (1/1.7" vs 1/2.55"!!!) and going from 52mm to 70mm focal for telephoto is a really good move. I still prefer the design of the Xperia 1 but if I didn't care for the planet and wasn't against the over consumption of ressources, I really would consider this upgrade, since it's a near perfect for me.

I hope the new camera app will come on the Xperia 1, give full access to manual control and that it shoots in raw.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
With a price tag of $1200 I don't think it's going to sell very well
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] tomo100brt:
This is Camera Pro app like Cinema Pro app on XPERIA 1 and XPERIA 5. Camera app is probably the same.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] iXaidyiu:
Yeah the high price tag is what really set me back, hope they realize it sooner and put a more attractive price tag on the mark II when it put on sale later this season.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Android_UK:
It is a welcomed upgrade, i will defo be considering it but one thing that ruins it is the software, now Sony are advertising the phones for professionals by professionals.

Maybe not those exact words used by they have certainly claimed that a lot of the tech is coming from their alpha cameras uses by professionals.

All I want to say is, it's all well good they have all this good hardware, they need to make sure their software plays it part as well.

I just hope the Xperia 1 MK1 does not get neglected now.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
Yeah hopefully as I'm sure it will be a good phone but price will make it go unnoticed.

They should just take the hit for a year or 2 and sell them for 600-700, get the sales, prove they have a market then slowly increase price. They probably picked that price cause Samsung etc can get away with it
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] AlvinZahran98:
DxOMark is pointless though. You shouldn't even have to use them as a source for searching great cameraphones since they're rigged anyway.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] heorung:
Is there any telegram group to discuss about Xperia 1M2
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] fgar82:
Anyone has Xperia 1? And had P30 pro or S10 to tell me if pictures taken with sony are in level with others or still bad as before!?
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] liam_davenport:
Yeah I was hoping it was gonna be 700-800 boy I was wrong, Sony really want's to kill it's Mobile business..
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
if you don't have money to buy it you buy a chinese mobile .

Forget about having a 4k oled Bravia screen and alpha camera

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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
Alpha camera was proven to be nothing more than a marketing gimmick with the Xperia 1 as the camera wasn't anything special so you can quite happily forget about that.

Screen will be good but is it miles ahead of the Chinese? Not really so it's another thing you can quite happily forget about.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Kommissar47:
When will Xperia 1 II start sale?
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Hazzay88:
Very good question. If its like the Xperia 1 release then its couple months away
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] liam_davenport:
I would say mid April. Usually around the time most phones ship.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Hazzay88:
I highly doubt Sony can get there phones out that quick. It wont be before May the very least
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] iXaidyiu:
I hope that there will be external factors that force Sony to reconsider their pricing or release an Xperia 10 Plus II with 6GB RAM.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] liam_davenport:
Just confirmed it will be out in Japan in late April by Docomo. Lets hope same for us in the west.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Smithravi:
How can you epect a flagship from SOny for 700-800 $?? Even One Plus with no IP Rating and poor specs (except 90Hz and 12Gb ram) for 750$.

Also last year Xperia is 1000$ which means you should expect the Price this yea around the same Price range.

And again there are lot of Upgrades from last year anyway like SD 865, 3.5mm jack, wireless charging, 360 Audio, 8GB ram which adds additinal cost obviously. Makes more sense.

That SD 865 alone will cost extra 100$+ over SD855.

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How can you epect a flagship from Sony for 700-800 $?? Even One Plus with no IP Rating and poor specs (except 90Hz and 12Gb ram) for 750$.

Also last year Xperia is 1000$ which means you should expect the price this year around the same price range.

And again there are lot of Upgrades from last year anyway like SD 865,larger sensor size, 3.5mm jack, wireless charging, 360 Audio, 8GB ram etc.,. which adds additional cost obviously. Makes more sense.

That SD 865 alone will cost extra 100$+ over SD855.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
https://tecnoduero.com/tienda/movil...-cm-6-5-8-gb-256-gb-12-mp-android-10-0-negro/

it won't take long, it depends on the coronavirus

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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] a5ian300zx:
Because Sony phones are not well established still. The oneplus is a better phone with better specs and much better polished OS and regular updates even for phones that are years old.

Sony has alway been very slow with updates regardless ifnit is tv or phone.

The OS on my Xperia 1 was vanilla like but missing basic functionality found on the standard android os like dark mode. Why on earth would you remove features that were found on the standard OS.

For me I ended up selling the Xperia 1, it a shame as they have the resources to be a big player. Hopefully in future as the Sony mobile division is integrating with other division now so hopefully they can bring some of the great features into the phone.

What I did not like about the Xperia was the weak speakers quite tinny sounding but the major issue for me was the OS (slow updates, lack of features, just had some of Sony features)

The camera was good sharper than my note 9 at the time and the display was awesome the only phone that does hdr and bt2020 and near 4k.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Supa_Fly:
Sony, of course in the last 2yrs have been slow with ROM updates, however unlike many other top tier brands, they've been supporting phone models some 3-4yrs out! You don't get that with Samsung, Acer, Asus, Oppo, and your beloved OnePlus not likely either.

You, or the manufacturer removes features out of the OS because they can and most likely - in your Dark Mode situation - is because Dark Mode favors OLED panels only (Dark is default when off, while other panels white is default when off). It's a power consumption concern. BTW they've enabled it.

I've not used any Sony device since the Xperia Z5 Compact and that was 2yrs after it was launched. But the speakers on those sounded quite good and were stereo. Not many phone manufactures have equally balanced stereo speakers.

Your choice is yours of course.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Hazzay88:
Sony needs to up its game. Make more regular updates and listen to the consumer. Most importantly be available in most countries if it wants to sell in high volumes. Not many people are willing to buy from overseas markets as the risk of not having warranty for an expensive phone will turn most away. I hope Sony do make the decision of returning to most countries.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] a5ian300zx:
You are wrong oneplus produces updates on phone that are 3-4yrs old and they do it regularly throughout the years instead of limited number, it's is also leading the way forward because of its sister company oppo who if you look thoughout have been the leading the way in new mobile tech.

Sony might support older phones with slow updates and patch fixes, even samsung stepped up it's game.

Dark mode benefits oled the most and even helps battery life with lcd, but Sony is doing oled phones and they should have had the OS ready over year ago with standard oled features like the dark mode bit they are slow.

Sound quality on the Sony speakers was tinnie and this was on the Xperia 1 their flagship phone at the time, samsung to me had the best speakers now and this is due to them buying Harmon kardon Inc AKG. Hence why their speakers are tuned by AKG and sound more depth. Its the same with apple when they bought beats audio.

Don't get me wrong I don't hate Sony, it's just that they can be soo much better if they allowed their department to work on certain aspects of the phone, hopefully now with the merger of departments there will be better phone in the future.

Sony also needs to let displaymate review their display, I believe its one of the best in the market.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Unsolved_Mistry:
Serious question, who cares about phone speakers, if I can hear a phone call clearly that's all I need, you'd have to be a masochist to play music through phone speakers and try to enjoy it.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] charlatan01:
For the record, Sony is VERY good at the security updates for Android. Features and fixes take longer, but they happen.

I own and enjoy the 1. Will probably skip this round.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] phailyoor:
Dude I'm drooling over this phone even though I just bought a s10 f/ds.

All I want is unlocked bootloader, 3.5mm, and hidpi screen (QHD or better). This one seems like it's going to do all that and also kick ass.

Money is not an issue, I just want a good phone.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] doggydog2:
i just want a good flagship.

been waiting for 4 years...terrible devices lacking SD, jack, fingerprint not working or not reachable, absolutely disgusting punchholes in display.. Finally time has come.

xperia 1.2 with easy to swipe screen without edges, super narrow shape (71mm), easy to hold weight compared to fat bricks like 1+8 or Mi10, camera back in the lovely bezel, full speakers, hopefully notification light! ideal 21:9 screen format, strict 4K, 1 billion colors, BT2020 only, gorilla 6, waterproofish, SD card, UFS, audiofile jack with subwoofer (DVS), wifi AC and AX, BT 5.1, lovely fast fingerprint on the side, good battery with fast charging, the super important wireless charging. Can't wait. This spec kills all 2020 flagships. Can't find a drawback here. No compromise.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Hildr:
Xperia 1 I has the full RGB notification led (and not only some color as said in gsmarena review) so I don't see why they would ditch it for mark II :)

Let's wait n see for the fast fingerprint on the side. While the location is really good, it's far from reliable on the mark I. You really need to be careful how you register the prints and even like this, sometimes it just doesn't want to. Hope they'll fix it with mark II
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
Lovely fast fingerprint on the side haha you've got to be joking. It was terrible in the 1 it'll be terrible in the 1 MK2.

All Sony phones have good specs but what you get in the finished product is not as good as the competition.

If they release the phone in current market with price point it will be another nail on the coffin.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Brotuck:
So in my country it is expected to be released in 4 weeks from now.

Wow that is a long wait
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Slash8915:
Sony has already lost with this phone. We’re already 3 months after the launch and the phone still doesn’t have an official release date.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] JLine05:
I would pay 1200 for it if it had a 90+hz screen. Dont know if I can go back to 60 now. The phone has almost everything. No notch, headphone jack, hi res screen, stereo front facing speakers, big battery, wireless charging. Why cant someone release a phone that has everything? lol
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] malek777:
I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony announces the Sony 1 Mark iii in the fall.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
there are phones that come out after the summer and nobody complains

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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
Other manufacturers don't announced their phones several months before they actually release it.

If sony announce it and a few weeks later it goes on sale then they'll get better sales and they might be able to save the mobile division.

That's 3 months of potential customers moving to other phones as they can't be bothered waiting.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Hildr:
If customers "can't wait" (lol, that feels like consumer junkies), they would not wait if the phone are announced later anyway since the wait would be exactly the same.. What disturb you is not the time between the announcement and the release, but just the release date.

In fact only the nerds crawling this kind of website know about future releases, so the majority are not even aware of mark II and if they want a top end Sony today, they'll just buy a mark I, not a problem, not every one buy day one.

With an early announcement, you give people choice to wait or not. With later announcement like you would like, people that really need to change their old phone would not be aware that just waiting a few months (6-8 months is still a few months, seriously) they will have an upgraded version available. So it's not 3 months of potential customers they would have, but 3 months of absolutely not customer because not aware a phone will be released.

Apple don't have to announce it, because it's obvious, but people know years before that new phones will be released in september, so they can choose to buy or wait another year to change their phone. Imagine, an announcement 12, 24, 36 months ahead!!!
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] xzpremium1976:
Sony announces the Xperia in Barcelona because the Carriers go there and have to close sales contracts

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[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Brotuck:
It is on presale right now. Deliverydate is in 2 weeks.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] nasko_spasko:
I had a XZ2 a couple of years ago. Makes me wonder - if the camera still gets messed up after BL unlock...
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
It will work fine after unlock like it did one the Xperia 1
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] nasko_spasko:
It did? That's a first. Glad Sony quit being a pain with their drm keys and stuff.
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] cd993:
I read its possible to backup/restore the drm stuff to avoid this, though hopefully by sounds of it doing so may be unneeded ?

This will be my first Xperia device
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
Yes many many years ago.

Don't get your hopes up for it being possible again so if you're going to unlock then unlock knowing your DRM keys are gone forever

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They haven't quit being a pain as you'll still lose them and won't get them back. The camera issue was sorted when they released android pie
[Sony Xperia 1 II Guides, News, & Discussion] cd993:
Hmm then in that case I'll hold off from unlocking, at least until confirmation is gained one way or the other....

Hope so though!
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
I have rolled back from Anddroid 7.0 Nougat with EMUI 5.0 to Android 6.0 with EMUI 4.1.1, Now i want to go back to latest Android 7.0 , I dont know how to do it. Update app/HiSuit/HiCare app Says no update available.

My current Build is EVA-L19C185B180
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
Download from Firmware Finder and install by DLOAD FullOTA-MF-PV (PV is important) EVA-L19c185b385, as on the screenshot

Or, follow the guide to rebrand to c432 and upgrade to Noogat (unlocked Bootloader is required):

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72153575&postcount=2
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
I have successfully upgraded to Android 7.0 Nougat by the help of firmware finder app .

My current Build is EVA-L19C185B403.

Is there anyway to upgrade to Oreo without unlocking Bootloader? I don’t have a card to buy code from DCunlock.
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
No, you cannot flash TWRP and from TWRP the oeminfo and no-check recovery, network patch... without the unlocked Bootloader
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
I have found some videos and Threads saying some Huawei's Tool can read Bootloader Code.

Is it true?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
I don't know anything about 'some' such tools :)

DC Unlocker for 4 Euros will work for EMUI 5
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
Thank you?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
How much credits I have to buy from DC Unlocker for bootloader code?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
4 Euros was enough for me two years ago (also P9).

Don't know if prices changed, but they have contact page and ask them directly
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
Brother, I have bought 4 credits from Dc Unlocker and successfully read Bootloader Code, Now will you please guide me on how to unlock the bootloader and rebrand for upgrading to Oreo?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
First, keep your code (on several places, even printed on the paper), it is good for relocking/unlocking (you never know, some actions may lock the Bootloader back) for the lifetime of your phone.

You don't want to go buying the same thing again :)

Assuming you know how to enable OEM Unlock in Developer's menu and you are a little familiar with Fastboot, it is simple to unlock the Bootloader

fastboot oem unlock <your code>

If not familiar, and if not clear as below, search on Google how to:

- enable Developer menu by clicking 7 times to the build number in Settings/About

- enable OEM unlock in Developer menu

- install "Minimal ADB and Fastboot" to Windoze (smallest, self containing package with everything for ADB and Fastboot)

- reboot to Fastboot: keep pressing Vol-, then Pow button

Unlocking Bootloader triggers hard-reset, wiping also Internal memory. Backup as much as you can - use Google account, HiSuite, WA own chat backup, copy DCIM to PC, Contacts can be exported to vcard file, etc

Rebranding to AL10c00, upgrading to b540 Oreo, applying the neccesary Network patch to make SiM card(s) working - all is in deep details explained in the OP posts:

https://xdaforums.com/p9/development/rebrand-update-tool-hwota7-p9-eva-t3820849

Read two times before you start, and keep the instructions opened on the PC while doing - wrong moves can cause (soft) bricks
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
Thank you, Brother, I have done all procedure and my device is now at Oreo, Build EVA-AL10 8.0.0.540(C00).

After doing all the required steps I have flashed Huawei's Official Recovery and enabled OTA, after that I have received an OTA update of 3 MB, Should I install the update or not?

SCREENSHOT

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s9c7zZoN8fJ3Xq62DW1GAL2P_9maq1Bn/view?usp=sharing
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
It is safe, just some Patch02 (never found exactly what for).

If you don't mind, you can skip (you can disable OTA - see in OP)

If you go for, you must first flash back the stock Recovery, hence not having TWRP. Not sure anymore, maybe also stock Ramdisk, hence not Magisk

Patch02 will not affect Network Patch or Face Unlock (cool add-on, see OP)

If you didn't apply Network patch yet, etc - then accept Patch02 and continue with OP instructions.

If you already rooted by Magisk, then don't bother with Patch02, too much trouble preparing clean sheet for OTA and rooting again
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
I have already applied Network Patch, See my both SIM is working.

Right now I don’t need Root so I'm skipping Magisk.

I just want to disappear the update available Notification, if the update is Safe I'll go for it.
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
I'm from Bangladesh, some Operator in our country introduced VoLTE.

It seems there is an option called VoLTE after upgrade to Oreo. Is it really works?
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
Nope, VoLTE does not work.

Everything else, like location sharing and Ok Google are fixed with Network patch, but not VoLTE.

The guy who did the whole majestic work went tired (although he believed he was close to fix VoLTE) and gave up. Later he upgraded to newer Huawei devices with Pie, etc, and eventually moved away from XDA
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] md sabuj:
Brother, How to remove the warning when Phone boots "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted"??
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] zgfg:
It's not possible to remove the warning on booting "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted" (IMO, it must have been commented somewhere in the OP) - that's price for the unlocked Bootloader.

But you must not relock Bootloader - it would trigger Hard reset, removing Network patch (even worse, it could also cause soft brick if TWRP or Magisk are installed)
[Huawei P9 Questions & Answers] scaniathe:
15 credits for unlock in fastboot mode (not pay over sms)