yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
Yes I would almost say, i don't need encryption, I am no criminal who wants to hide something. For me formatting data and bootloop is no problem. I can just copy all of the data from my other Moto G5 Plus. But I guess no one else does have two of the same smartphones. But I agree it would be nice to know everything about Custom ROM's and how to troubleshoot. If there was not something like Corona, I still would have use Android 8.1 which is old, but still usable. But I had some time to spare, so I decided to learn myself about Custom ROM's. And ofcourse it's nice to show of with Android 11 to other people who have an newer and more expensive Samsung with an older Android. And often including a crack in it's screen, becouse it's much more fragile comparing to our Motorola. I still like this smartphone a lot.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Yeah, for sure, I completely understand. My reasons are actually for security reasons, not really privacy. While I know there can be limitations even *with* encryption, I believe it's particularly important to have it when using a phone with an unlocked bootloader, such that certain contents, like Google Authenticator or cryptocurrency stuff, are under a layer of encryption -- in case it ever got stolen.

Mind you, I may just choose to keep such stuff stored on an up to date, stock device with a locked bootloader, but it's nice to have options.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pss34:
Some appliances like Android Work Profile need encryption to work now. Moreover, I'm not a criminal, but there is war in my country so I'd like to be able to lock my phone from accessing my data if enemies got it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
I did think CrDroid 7.15 was very low on battery usage and mobile data usage, but CrDroid 7.20 is even much better. Great job!

The only thing I am a bit missing in CrDroid is, when picking it up it shows date and time. After some searching in settings, I also see a wheater report. But no other info like coming Calendar appointments. This is a working feature in DotOS. How do I enable that in CrDroid?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] danchase:
I tried several times to both install from PC, and update from within the device, to crDroid v7.20 [21.07.2022] and it made the device unbootable each time. I had to wipe the device and re-install the February version to get it working again.

The February version on the Moto G5 Plus works well for things like Chromecasting the screen without any noticeable latency. It's unfortunate Moto's declined against the other major brands, making it a lot harder to get ROMs produced by anyone. My Moto G Stylus was dropped from updates after only 2 years and now nobody makes ROMs for it. I'll never buy another Moto. Samsung has started providing updates for 5 years on their similarly priced mid-range devices, making all the wiping and installing of ROMs unnecessary for a long time after purchase.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
@danchase , I can't say for sure why you weren't able to update, but even a clean install requires flashing the ROM first, then *formatting* data after. I had no problem installing 7.20 clean this way.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
@danchase: A few years ago Samsung also didn't give updates very long, also just 2 years. I know the Consumentenbond (from the Netherlands) did start a law suite against them, about that. They have won it, so now Samsung give 5 years updates for all their smartphones. I have send the Consumentenbond a mail about this, asking to do the same for Motorola(Lenovo), and if possible also for other brands.

I am by the way not a big fan of Samsung. Their Android contains lots of bloatware. Their smarphones are much more expensive for smartphones having the same specifications. Their smartphones are very fragile, lot's of people do have a crack in their screen after dropping it out of their pocket. Check youtube for drop tests, only Apple is even worse in comparision to Samsung.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] danchase:
I've used a Samsung flagship before, the S8. It was okay but definitely not the most responsive phone I've ever used. I like my Google Pixel XL with LineageOS the best. If I ever get another new phone from a store, then it will have to be one of the few that get at least 4 years of updates like Samsung or Apple. The others are disqualified as far as I am concerned. I'm not paying another $300 for a phone that only gets 2 years of updates like happened with my 2020 Moto G Stylus. Better to buy a used phone cheap off Ebay and put LineageOS on it.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] t_aus_m:
Hey there,

I am running into issues using WiFi on my potter. The device won't connect to my WiFi, regardless if I choose the 5 GHz or the 2.4 GHz one. I've managed to find out that the issue seems to be that the device does not support WPA3 Personal and seemingly refuses to fall back to WPA2 if trying to connect to a WPA2/WPA3 Personal network. At least that is the setup of my WiFi access point. If I open up a network that only supports WPA2, everything works fine and the phone connects.

Does someone happen to know a workaround for this problem that does not involve turning off WPA3 on my WiFi?

Thanks!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
My router is from 2019, it does only support wpa and wpa2, 2.4GHz and 5GHz. And my Moto G5 Plus (2017) does connect to wpa2 on 2.4GHz and 5GHz, so I can't test wpa3 for you. wpa3 was invented in 2018, so I guess only new smartphones have (hardware) support for wpa3.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pss34:
The same thing with wpa3.

It's strange because device with no wpa3 support has to fall back to wpa2. But potter failed to do that.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
@pss34 , same here, I've not tried wpa3 with this phone -- I'm using wpa2 with my router. I searched this thread, and another person mentioned last year that they could not connect to wpa3 with this ROM.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] pss34:
So, our phone has not to advertise support of WPA3, as I understand.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Right, potter stock firmware only provides up to WPA2 support. But as far as the fallback support on your router for connecting to WPA2 if the device doesn't support WPA3, it's hard to say what the underlying cause is. I've seen weird incompatibility issues in router firmware and phone firmware before.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
7.21 is available. I haven't seen a changelog or anything: https://sourceforge.net/projects/cr...droid-11.0-20220816-potter-v7.21.zip/download
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] massima:
Today i get the update, seems only August secure patch. Flashed successfully
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sid4306:
which is ideal gapps to prevent bootloop?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
I don't think it matters. You just have to make sure to format data.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sid4306:
okay. I faced a bootloop for clean installation, how to resolve it?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
You still have to format data *after* the install, and wipe cache/dalvik, I believe.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
Doing a fresh install combining CrDroid with OpenGApps Nano does not work, it stucks while booting. Formatting data is indeed always needed. The creator of this ROM has adviced me to use FlameGApps Basic, but I have successesfully used FlameGApps Full. That works for me when I did a fresh install for 7.20. I did the updating to 7.21 using settings, system, updater. That works for me. As usual, after reboot, my fingerprintsensor can't be used for unlocking. But my fix solves that: "Turn off your phone. Remove simtray. Turn on phone. After fully booting, put simtray in." I sometimes wonder if other people also have this issue. Most rom's have this problem.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] sid4306:
Thanks for the info. I tried open gapps and flame gapps full too with format data but it still did not seem to boot. Fortunately, got it booted by mindthegapps and this amazing ROM has been working flawlessly since.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
I think I tested various versions of opengapps and nikgapps with 7.16 (when we were trying to diagnose the data/battery draining bug). I think I settled on NikGapps basic last, then dirty flashed 7.20 and then 7.21, so I haven't tested a clean install lately to confirm or deny these fresh install issues.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Aium:
i installed 'crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220816-potter-v7.21' with 'open_gapps-arm64-11.0-nano-20220215' and it worked!.. the first boot takes a while

Inside, the only error it gave me was something from "Speech Services" but after that everything worked perfectly

Edit: latest twrp btw
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Incoherent Ian:
I was just gifted a G5 Plus. I've had a great LineageOS experience with my Zenfone 5Z so looking at LineageOS for the moto, too.

ROM support for the G5 Plus seems to be forked a bit thin among a surprising variety of LineageOS distros, but this tine looks to have the most up to date Android 11 feature list right now not to mention stability, performance and battery life *after* a possibly painful successful installation.

Before I jump in -- Is my finger feeling that pulse reasonably well?

(I'm guessing Android 12 would be a pipe dream wrought with nightly build pain.)
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Yeah, there was talk on the Telegram channel of the idea of Android 12, but it's not there yet.

I would use crDroid -- there are some unofficial LOS builds and other ROMs, too, but I believe these all suffer from the battery/data drain bug.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
I have to agree with mmortal03, CrDroid is betst choice for Moto G5 Plus. I have tried lots of roms, including Android 12 (unofficial ArrowOS build), but that had some mayor issues (no camara and no sound). All other rom's do have or will get the mobile data and battery drain issue as soon no updates for about 3 months. This has something to do with pretending to be a Google Pixel phone, to get unlimited Google cloud storage. It seems CrDroid is the only rom which does not have or getting this issue.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Spudmac:
Hello, this is a wonderful Rom, came here from ArrowOS and I have not been disappointed. I have one thing I am struggling with though on my XT1687. I am running crDdroid 7.21 and AFwall+ logs only works for about a minute after installing the app and turning on logs. Does anyone have any experience with this?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
For a short time, I do have an e-bike, so I use navigation software on my Moto G5 Plus. I used TomTom Go for my car, it did also have a route for bike option, but that old version doesn't work on Android 11, and the new version works, but doesn't have the route for bike anymore. So I have to find something else. Google Maps does work, and has route for bike, but it seems not to give the fastest/logical route for me. I want to use maps.me, which seems to be optimized for using on a bike, but I do have a problem with it. It doesn't give spoken instructions. I have tried different Android 11 Rom's. On CrDroid and LineageOS it works but no sound. On ArrowOS it works fine including sound. But ArrowOS does have the mayor mobile data eating and battery drain problem, so I rather would use CrDroid. Does anyone know why I don't get sound using maps.me? Do I need some extra software? For people who want to help me, some extra info. After opening maps.me click "more" button right under, settings, spoken instructions (all the way down). With CrDriod and LineageOS that's disabled, and you can't enable it. With ArrowOS it's enabled as default. I also have tried OsmAnd which is an alternative for maps.me, it does the same thing, but also giving a message like "Can't start text to Speach service". Let's hope someone can help me, getting sound with maps.me on CrDroid, or maybe some other good navigation app for using on a (e-)bike.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Samip430:
Not sure what's going on, I've tried multiple versions of twrp but I always get "E1001: Failed to update system image"

Anyone know what may be happening?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
I would try to re-download the ROM first from the server. If that doesn't change anything, then it could be a number of different things. You might try changing up where you're installing it from (try to store the ROM zip on the internal storage rather than an SD card or OTG drive, or change up the card or drive it's on). Also, have you tried different ways of wiping/formatting the system partition? Not sure if you're trying to do a clean install or what without more details.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Someone running the July 20th build on the Telegram channel is seeing the SystemUpdate battery drain bug today. So, it might not even be three months. So, it's possible the data drain bug is being worked around due to blacklisting the servers, but the battery drain issue is still there, whenever the SystemUpdate messages start to appear in the logcat. I'd hoped that was fixed, but now I have my doubts.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
In the 5 month's period when crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220720-potter-v7.20 didn't exist yet, I didn't have any problems (mobile data eating/battery drain) with crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220223-potter-v7.15 So that's why I think crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220816-potter-v7.21.zip will continue working even if it isn't being updated anymore. But only time will tell.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] xenomorph150:
Hey there, I just joined the "crDroid club" with having flashed the latest crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220816-potter-v7.21 one week ago. Before that I was running AOSiP-10-Gapps-potter-20210316 which became sluggish and unusable after more than one year in use, so I looked for something else and stumbled upon crDroid.

These are my currently found issues:

1.) Flashing the rom with the FlameGApps Basic/flashing as described did not work. I installed the latest twrp-3.6.2_9-0-potter.img, cleared and formated, rebooted and tried to flash in that order:

- crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220816-potter-v7.21.zip

- latest FlameGApps Basic

- Magisk-v25.2.zip

I tried it about 5 times, it always ended in a bootloop with a kernel crash early on and just keep on looping the boot animation

The only thing that worked was flashing:

- crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220816-potter-v7.21.zip

- open_gapps-arm64-11.0-nano-20220215.zip

- Magisk-v25.2.zip

After booting I had immediately seen an error that an com.quicinc.cne.cneservice.cne service app crashed, but other than that it was ok.

2.) Everytime I disable data services/mobile data, the crash of the called com.quicinc.cne.cneservice.cne service app does happen again. Mobile data works however, once enabled

3.) WPA3 does not work, I have an AP that speaks WPA2+WPA3, if I have it set in that mode the phone will see the network but never connect. Only if I hard set it to ONLY WPA2 it will connect. It does not seem to be able to negotiate to only use WPA2, but just ignore connecting altogether if it stumbles upon a WPA2+WPA3 access point (which become more and more...)

4.) Pressing the home button will always if it should launch with crDroid Home or Pixel Launcher, even if crDroid Home was set as "always" in this question menu and in the settings itself. It will also ask for which launcher to use if its unlocked after a new boot.

5.) Fingerprint sensor does not work. Even with removing SIM, rebooting, inserting SIM - did not help. It just kept crashing OK Google service, T Google Service and X Google service. Trying to open the Fingerprint gestures results in crashing the app.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
Did you forget "format data"? My full guide is here: https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-11-0-potter-crdroid-v7-20-21-07-2022.4041689/post-87166707 I don't use WPA3, but have read here that only WPA and WPA2 are working. My fingerprint sensor does work fine (for unlocking and banking app), but if I want to (re)boot, I first need to remove my simtray, and after (fully) booting put it back in. I did not install Magisk and use an older TWRP (but the newer one should also work fine).
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] xenomorph150:
Thanks I tried it again with format.

The error about the launcher was still there, but I solved this with just removing the pixel launcher.

The error about the mobile data does not come up again.

Fingerprint sensor I did not yet test, but I got the original message wrong and thought one would need to remove the SIM card, boot the phone, insert the SIM card and then reboot the phone again to make it permanently work. I did not understand that it would just work for the moment. I tried it again after the reinstall and it did not work, even with the new method, but it is not important to me.

WPA3 is an issue / could be come a bad one as soon as other access points move over to WPA3, so this will be something important that needs to get solved :)

Thanks for your help!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] JohannesL2021:
Yes, I agree with xenomorph150. Nowadays wpa3 is importent and mixed mode routers (wpa2+wpa3) are standard. I read that the wifi error is in (underlying) LOS 18 and LOS 17. So I hope someone will fix it in the "future".
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
I just noticed that fast charging, a.k.a. "TurboPower", doesn't work. It says "Charging slowly".
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
Quickcharge is always disabled on any device with lithium-ion battery when the capacity of your battery is 80% or more. This increases the lifetime of your battery. The only thing is: most rom's don't give information about charging voltage/current. Try charging when battery level is below 50%, it should quick charge then.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Yeah, I ended up using a USB tester and found that it was properly charging using QC 2.0 -- crdroid just doesn't label it as such and doesn't present this information to apps, such as Ampere.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Astra66:
o someone to give me a quick tutorial on how to put the ROM?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
Here is the guide I always use myself, to switch to another ROM. https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-11-0-potter-crdroid-v7-20-21-07-2022.4041689/page-15#post-87166707 Some addition. If after rebooting, your phone stucks on CrDroid bootlogo. Just do the same procedure a second time. The first time I got this, I thought it had to do something with (wrong) GApps, but it seems to happen always when switching from a different rom to CrDroid. And ofcourse: always use the latest CrDroid and GApps. If you are new, still using the original Moto G5 Plus Android 8.1, you need to do much more steps. I have a Dutch manual here: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/66796802#66796802
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
crDroidAndroid-11.0-20220928-potter-v7.22 has been released:

crDroid Android - Browse /potter/7.x at SourceForge.net

Highly customizable Android Platform

sourceforge.net
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] LeMaJo:
thank you!

for continuing a 'discuntinued' rom. i have two potters and both batteries work still fine for 2-3 days. would feel strange to stop using them.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] cjdijk:
I thought I was the only one who has two of the same smartphones (Moto G5 Plus). I think it's very usefull to have a backup. Also to check differences between two different rom's, without having to flash. I have ArrowOS and CrDroid, and are working both, but I prefer CrDroid. You can read my issue on the ArrowOS topic.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ChriMo:
I'm also happy my GoTo ROM is maintained for the potter. I'm fine with 3-4 updates a year.

I had (have?) battery calibration issues (see earlier here in the thread). After doing several loading cycles in TWRP including deleting the batterystats.bin file it looks now the discharging behaves "normally" and one cycle is ca. 3 days. Hope to use it more as a secondary device and maybe reactivate it for a SIM.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] LeMaJo:
okay i see.

i have two potters (one with double sim, one with single sim). Arrows works on both, crDroid stucks in a boot loop on the single sim potter.

the finger print sensor seems to be a delicate topic too.

i wonder if we can get the october security patches... :)
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
You have to format data after flashing it. Try these steps: https://xdaforums.com/t/rom-11-0-potter-crdroid-v7-20-21-07-2022.4041689/page-12#post-86857221
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] LeMaJo:
oh, i tried that wiping orgy already. sadly it doesnt help me out of the boot loop.

maybe that is because my potters are XT1684 (single SIM) and XT1685 (double SIM). could be that the XT1684 isnt really a 'potter' although its a 'Moto G5 plus'.

but thank you for your inputs, i really appreciate that.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Just to be sure, you're doing a *format* at the end, not just a wipe? I have an XT1687, so I can't directly speak to the UK models that you have, but I'm pretty sure they are potter and there should be a way to get the XT1684 to work. What version of TWRP are you using?

If you're happy with ArrowOS, though, it's cool -- it's just my experience with these EOL ROMs that having an alternative option that also works can be useful down the line.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] LeMaJo:
yes i do a format (means you have to type the letters 'yes' and Enter). I didnt know those are UK models (i'm Austrian) but all potter stuff wlrked fine so far.

and very true: alternatives definitely are useful.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
I just upgraded from 7.21 to 7.22, and it got stuck at the crdroid logo for maybe 15 minutes on initial boot, before I force rebooted it into TWRP. I tried re-installing NikGApps, and then it booted (but maybe it would've booted the second time, anyway?) So, if you aren't using some form of GApps, it might be worth trying it just to see if that helps (but, of course, no one should be required to install some form of GApps to get it to work).
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] LeMaJo:
oh, interesting. i did that and it worked. (NickGapps core)

Fingerprint looks like a problem on crDroid too, sadly.

Thanks for your advice!
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
Yeah, there seem to be various issues with fingerprint functionality, like fingerprint gestures being broken, but basic lock screen fingerprint authentication is working for me.
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] GtrCraft:
7.23 is here:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/crdroid/files/potter/7.x/crDroidAndroid-11.0-20221012-potter-v7.23.zip/download

Changelog:

- Initial crDroid v7.23 code base

- Updated to October 2022 security patches
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] marklm725:
is this 32 bit or 64 bit?
[Moto G5 Plus ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] mmortal03:
arm64