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[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
since s10 been out a while now and s20 coming out soon theres less ppl who care about root.. also, most devs that would care moved on to unlockable variants long ago
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
thats what im saying. finally getting root after all this time and it not being like a big deal across the threads yet. It seems that most people are unaware that root is possible for these devices still.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
yea, like i said, theres not many ppl that care about root even on usa variants
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] 17mm:
i want root to use macchangers, vpn's are nice but your never truly anonymous without a random mac.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
not what i meant. I meant that the advent of root should have brought people out of the woodoworks. This isnt the same market that phones had back in the days when people actually stopped using the 1 or 2 generation old phones in lieu of the new ones. The galaxy phones ever since the S8 have been devices that dont require replacement nearly as often thereby making it a far better used, refurb or new-old-stock option than any other device before it. 5G is a joke still and will be for several years, so nobody outside of people in places where it has actually deployed and works and the every so often idiot who buys a phone because it has the latest tech irrespective of whether or not they can use it. In short, people are still using this phone. Its my honest belief that people just gave up on root after years of getting their hands slapped for even asking about it. Go back and look, there are so many threads with responses like "NO!! There is no root and never will be, so stop asking" and ask yourself again why people arent flocking to the S9 root.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
With what stock firmware can do now no one cares for root. Everything we did for root is now stock and accessable through other apps (good lock, substratum). The need for root is long gone.

Plus, it'll be a bigger deal with an unlocked bootloader so we can switch the os.

Root is dead
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Archangel:
Completely agree. There have been far too many "experts" who say root is not needed. Substratum runs far better and easier for me when you have root and the Pixel is pretty much the only phone where root is easy. I know other phones have root but it is super easy on the Pixel which is another reason why those phones have been my go to devices since the last rooted Samsung phone I had was the S7. Now, that there is root for the S9 and possible Android 10 GSI's, I am all in. I for one am thankful there are devs out there not simply relying on people telling them no one needs root.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
root is the furthest thing from dead my friend. im part of the old guard that used to say that one cannot experience Android fully without root and i agree that there are sooooo many things that are now available without root, whats even the point of it now? There definitely still is a purpose and a functionality to root from stuff as mundane as accessing the entire filesystem to more nefarious things such as lucky patcher. Not even sure if LP is still a thing even, to be totally honest. But the most raw element of it comes down to the very basic fundamental, choice. Root for OS flashing was only ever part of the equation. What about overclocking? Underclocking? How about changing the boot animation? I like my device to be able to be seen as a flash drive, both internal and external drives. How do i do that without root?

A great many things have been addressed by the mfg's making the need for root far less necessary for the casual user to change stuff on their phone, and thats all well and good, but saying its unneeded or dead is myopic at best
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
It is dead. For the few things root is needed for it's basically useless. Like the other comment on top of you said (basically) substratums install is more fluent. That's not really a good argument imo. Sure it's easier cause you don't need to keep clicking, but is saving 2 minutes of your time that life changing?

Sure I'm glad some devs never gave up on this device and I hope they never will, but an unlocked bootloader would be more ground breaking and bring a herd with it.

Like I said, root is dead. It's not a useful function outside of tinkering now. I do hope the few devs will find a way to the bootloader, that's why I keep up. I'm just not holding my breath like many are.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
uhm..... okkkaaaayyyyy??
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] klabit87:
It's all a matter of what each individual wants versus what they're willing to compromise.

Some users may feel it is worth it to them to utilize the available root in order to run gsi.

Others may not even feel the root method is worth the losses it can come with. Either of the views are still valid.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] 17mm:
why cant someone just patch root into an official firmware and just hide it in a way to no trip anything?
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] ShaDisNX255:
Because YOU CAN'T
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
That's a good point. Your two cents made me see the light that rooting is still a viable option!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
glad we had this little talk
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
Just posting to get the last word in. Mods can do whatever they want with this one
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
MEME FIGHT!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
What's to meme or fight? The nostalgia sheep only root nowadays. You just want to keep 2010 alive.

Meme that
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Youdoofus:
[IMG="sure thing big fella!!"]https://media.makeameme.org/created/oh-yeah-ill-5a8de0.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] jrkruse:
Why don’t you guys put as much effort in finding solutions to the problems the phone has from being rooted as you are wasting everyone’s time with stupid post

Sent from some device I modified
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
People can still post their problems. It's just for fun, and it is kind of on topic.

To root? Or not to root? That is the question that seems like root is no longer needed
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
this isnt a "post your problems" thread or a "root or no root" discussion...

its a root method for g960u/u1.. discussion should stick to this actual method/files/process.. theres probably 100s if not 1000s of other general threads u can post about your opinions/life problems in..

if u dont feel u need root then u can stay away from this thread since the whole purpose is to provide a root method so people can root, not start a debate.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
Pretty much stated above as is.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] trashbag1:
Can someone explain why Bio-metrics are disabled? I'm not trying to hate on the creators, this is amazing work! I was losing hope for my 960U.

I'm just looking for a technical reason.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] jrkruse:
Because something with the combo firmware breaks it

Sent from some device I modified
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Mekks082:
Having an issue, after flashing combo FW and then trying to run the root.bat it keeps failing. I have started over about 10 times. Sometimes it says permission denied, others it says files do not exist. Any ideas to get me going??
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] ShaDisNX255:
Reconnect your cable, I always do it every time the phone reboots.

Make sure your adb is working

Make sure adb is detecting your phone with adb devices in a terminal window

And then click on the bat file

If it doesn't work then add the adb files in the same directory as where the bat is located
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] REAL1983:
Question/Help

Does this root method work if I'm on

Android OS 10 January Security Patch Bootloader 7 on the S9 SM-G960U1 thanks in advanced and Thanks for all your hard work I finally updated from oreo 8.0 having that for over a year been waiting on root finally I figured it was never gonna happen so I I updated like 2 weeks ago lol
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] IJoxer:
It is the same bootloader revision used in the exploit, so I'm going to assume you can, but maybe [MENTION=3812611]elliwigy[/MENTION] [MENTION=1949695]jrkruse[/MENTION] or [MENTION=4168602]klabit87[/MENTION] can verify that for us. I had just downloaded DTA5 (PieQ) stock fw to flash for a fresh start, but haven't yet for the same reason. I would like to check out PieQ, but don't want to jeopardize my ability to root (I'm on CSK2). I noticed they're both on rev5 bootloader, which would typically mean you can downgrade, but I do find it odd the PieQ update (DTA5) didn't include a new bl, as an upgrade an Android version is usually accompanied by a bl update??

Look forward to some verification, thanks a lot!

Edit:

Just noticed [MENTION=4168602]klabit87[/MENTION] did verify this on the + root thread.

Edit 2:

But contradicts that here...?
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] klabit87:
I think you guys are confused on the notion of downgrade versus "will this work for me". I don't consider this a downgrade at all. Simply because, if I call it a downgrade it would mean you could flash any version of firmware and it would work. That is not the case. The revisions version is what matters here. The current files will work on the latest revisions as of now. But they are all just the last revision version.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] IJoxer:
That isn't what confuses me, I've been flashing phones for a good decade or more, I was saying that you can't "downgrade" to a lower bootloader revision than what you've already flashed. The Extreme Syndicate root method for g960/g965 uses a 7th rev bootloader with combo fw, correct? So the new Q update that just came out for the g960/g965, which also (surprisingly?) uses the 7th rev bl, should be downgradeable to the SK1 fw used to root our phones (because though it is a major upgrade in the Android version, the bootloader is still technically the same according to the well-known fw naming scheme ie G960USQU7ASK1(<-Rooted Oreo FW) or G960U1UEU7DTA5(<-Android 10 Update).

I'm dead tired, so I'm sorry if that came across like the ramblings of a crazy guy, just to simplify what I/we would like to know, is if we were to odin to the new Q update DTA5, would we still be able to "downgrade" to the ASK1 Root fw as used by Extreme Syndicates root method (considering they both use rev 7 bootloader, which is also odd, is it not)?

Thanks for your time, any clarification is much appreciated!

EDIT

I also made some changes to my previous post, which probably didn't help with the confusion, I was mistakenly referring to the Q(DTA5) update as the Pie update, we are on Pie, some have upgraded to Q, and the root method uses Oreo FW, so I suppose, we just need to know which bootloader rev is used by extreme syndicate root method? I know usually any bl rev isn't typically downgradable, but the root method is using rev 7 bl, which means we should be able to downgrade from the DTA5 fw (G960U1UEU7DTA5) because the bl hasn't been upgraded beyond what you guys are using, correct?
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] klabit87:
Correct. Rev 7 is the latest and is what the combo files are as well.

I think the fact that all combo files are only available as the main os that it was launched with will help.

Regardless of what revision it is, it will always be Oreo. Samsung just updates the combo files for testing in their facilities with the revision because not even they can downgrade to an earlier revision.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] IJoxer:
Correct, similar to engineer kernels if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for getting back to me, that does ease my mind, I wanted to check Q out a bit, but eventually downgrade and get me some root.

Now, not to bug you any further and perhaps I should just read up on the technical aspects of your guys exploit methodology, but since you're using the combo bl to gain root (similar to the SamPwnd method, correct?) and the bl is rev 7 as is every fw update for our device (to date), why wouldn't it be possible to use the same method to gain root access to Pie (or even Q, though more understandable).

I mean, given they use the same bl and that is what is being used for the exploit, would it not be applicable to Pie as well? Feel free to just shut me up with a link to some reading material, just been out of the game a lot lately, trying to understand what I'm missing.

Appreciate it!
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
The boot loader needed for root is only in oreo format. The combo file is only released in the same firmware the device was released with. It is a permissive kernel. But again it's only oreo based. So no way to boot pie or 10 off it. They don't use the same boot loader. Just same bit incrementation
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Newguytoday:
Hey guys, I'm a little new to rooting. I am trying to find some pictures and text messages that were deleted. I've read that rooting will allow me to find these files. Is that correct?
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
The chance is ever so slightly on the pictures. The texts are gone. But normally to be successful you would have needed to be rooted to begin with.

If you look into how data recovery works then you will understand what I mean
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] REAL1983:
Agreed

That's does contradict itself very much so thank you for your responses to means alot I noticed myself it's the same bootloader version AMD that is very suprising seeing almost every time you go from a old android os to a new one its always a new bootloader so I'm impressed that there wasnt one maybe samsung was happy and thought still no root availability but now that's changed

---------- Post added at 01:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:48 AM ----------

Thank you for all your support and answering questions knowing how busy you are and sometimes peoples simple questions like ours to such knowledgeable dev's are annoying so I appreciate your time one of my favorite dev's is MikeyXDA who made root and custom roms for the

Samsung Galaxy Note 2 my first Verizon Smart phone he had **** on that rom called Meanbean Reborn that would blow anyone's mind in call recording of both sides of the conversation etc ot was still to date my favorite phone and rom thanks to all who make this stuff possible.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] IJoxer:
Hey MS, good seeing ya! Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense. I didn't think the bl was ever fw specific, never used to be anyway, I'm gonna poke around, not that we can use modified BLs but I'd like to see what is used as an identifier.

On that note, I'd really like to find a way to exploit these ****ing bootloaders, it's been far too long since we've given the finger to Samsung!! ???
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
Buy a device that can be modded mate I'm not saying it never will. New exploits come out every day but not worth waiting around for one. I went with an unlocked model from Latin America just so I dont have to deal with it.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] IJoxer:
I hear ya, I have quite the collection of Android phones, a few unlocked, but really, I just like the challenge, Samsung just got a little too good at the game lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
As klabit already said, this uses latest rev firmware which you confirmed since the latest Q update is also rev7... going between the root files and stock a latest firmware etc. Is all still rev7 firmware so technically you are not downgrading anything at all..

It is also not odd at all as this is normal for all samsung devices.. the device was launched with oreo firmware.. therefore the combo firm is always going to be oreo.. they need it to work on each rev they update to so a oreo combo is created for each rev.. i.e. all the way up to rev7.. if someone is on stock Q and repair shop needs to fix it for example they need to be able to flash the combo firmware which can only be done if they have one of the same rev aka rev7 in this case since downgrading is not possible..

That's the long story..

Short story is you are thinking way to much into it.. it is already clear that this is using latest rev and is vulnerable on latest update/firmware/rev/w.e u want to call it.. if and when it becomes patched (I dont think it will) we will make sure it's clear in op.. however I dont think they will patch it.. so most likely when rev8 comes out then they will make an oreo rev8 combo then we just use those files instead of the rev7 files and viola..

So downgrade is not possible.. this method doesnt use any type of downgrade.. if anything this method will update you to latest rev7 even if you are on an older rev still.. upgrade/downgrade doesnt have to do anything with android os version, only the rev meaning cant go from say rev7 to rev6.. hell if there was an android 4.0 rev7 firmware you could flash it and it wouldn't be a "downgrade" lol
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
Qualcomm got good at the game mostly lol.. all the exploits I've found last few years were all due to samsung and their modifications to the qualcomm code lol.. or using Samsung's Odin or Samsung's combo firmware etc. Etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
If youd quit selling all your secrets back to them :p

:eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] runepenrod:
Instructions

Hi, noob here.

Got sent a Cricket Mobile (US) version of the S9, tried following the instructions by op, but I'm confused as all get out. Did you skip a few steps or just forget to add them? The instructions seem incomplete, and if you could, add more steps? Which button in Odin do we click to add the combo file? Which button for the loader? What next? How do I load the files into the phone as described afterwards? I've tried YouTube but all the roots are for the non-US versions. I'm lost and would appreciate the help. I don't want to send the phone into the trash bin and I need to be able to use it in Europe (Germany). ?

Thanks much!
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] jrkruse:
When in doubt just add things to the AP slot in odin but it really doesnt matter
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] runepenrod:
Really?

What kind of response is that? I am genuinely asking for help and that is all you can respond with?

Holy moly. Nevermind. I'll just ask elsewhere.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] ShaDisNX255:
To be honest, I didn't see that response as being rude. You are asking the most simple of questions man, it feels like you're asking "Hey guys, how do I press a button?"

I understand you may be scared to permanently damage your phone, but you gotta let go of your fears, experiment, try the steps out a little. Samsung has made it very hard for you to hard brick your phone so even if you mess up (which I did by the way) your phone is still recoverable.

It's very hard to write a tutorial with every single little detail, for the most part you want to avoid doing just that. Because then people who are not willing to follow and understand the instructions just want a solution to their problems without looking themselves.

If you are simply not willing to experiment and want everything to be perfect at the first try, then let me tell you rooting isn't for you, just stay in stock (in my opinion)
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] jrkruse:
I thought I was helping. I answered your question didn’t I? Im sorry if you were offended by my answer

Sent from some device I modified
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Mogster2K:
Is it possible to revert to full stock after rooting?
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] svaethier:
yes you can revert to stock but you will lose root afterwards.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Kyoshokid:
Hello everyone, wow I'm so happy to see this thread after so long of no solutions.

I tried looking back a few pages but couldn't find an answer so here I am. My G960U from Metro is rev 1.1, I just got the notice to upgrade to android 10 and before I do anything I wanted to ask if this root works on Android 10 or if should root first and then upgrade to 10. I'm currently on android 9.

I've been searching for root since this phone came out and was really bummed to learn of the locked bootloader but continued to check every once in a while, I'm so happy to discover someone has finally manged to get root on this s9. Coming from the LG Optimus and S5 rooting has always been something I needed and getting this s9 was a real kick in the pants.

Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] ShaDisNX255:
Unfortunately, you will not be able to use Android 10 (official Samsung OneUI 2.0) with this root method.

Using this root method will install Android Oreo on your phone

If you want to use Android 10, you'll have to install a GSI but will probably have a few bugs.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Kyoshokid:
Thank you, but I have one more question.

Would I still be able to use this guide if my phone self updated to android 10? ( I know once rooted there's apps to block the system updates but I'm worried my phone will self install before I sit down with this. )

From what I understand using this root guide will revert(?) my os back to Oreo, unless I use a GSI like Lineage during the process to keep android 9Pie/10Q otherwise just using the guide will install Oreo.

Thanks Again.
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
Go into developer options and untick auto update but yea so far it's for the latest bootloader's. So as long as they don't increment it should be good
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] ighost77:
XDA news mentioned Pokemon Go won't work. So can anyone please confirm as of today it does work or it doesn't?
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
if u cant read the instructions then theres not much help anyone can give u
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
right lol.. plus instructions are assuming one has at least basic knowledge on how to use odin... if not then they really shouldnt even be rooting imo
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] Slim2none4u:
What? Do you just pop into any thread and ask questions? What does this have to do with the topic of this thread?

Be gone!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] TheMadScientist:
As stated. it shows you don't even in this device. You should post in your own forums in the proper section like q&a. This is a rom development thread. Plus most of us don't have time to play Pokemon. You could always download it yourself and perhaps try yourself? :fingers-crossed::good:
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] creep138:
I don't get why people don't know apps like Pokemon won't work with root. If they love that game they should know root breaks it.

IDK, common knowledge wasn't really a sense I guess
[Samsung Galaxy S9 & S9+ (Snapdragon) ROMs, Kernels] elliwigy:
im mean theres ways around anything but im sure he would be crying when they ban him and he loses all his pokemons lol