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[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Shushant:
Did you contact customer care then? He said the number which is getting otp should be kept in sim 1 for at least 24 hours.

I'm just not understanding that why is it sending the otp to second sim when pasted imei 1? Is there an issue with the unit? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] pankajgavri:
I was thinking of doing hard reset and then using sim 1 only.

Maybe then it only picks up our primary number.

But now trying your method of replacing sim slot for 24 hours

If this doesn't work, I'll go the phone reset way.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Shushant:
The phone reset doesn't work, that was the first thing I tried, you can still go ahead and try, maybe I used the Samsung switch app before registering in the Samsung shop app
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
For the hopefuls, 10th is tomorrow.. no news right? ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
Nothing.. i guess the next hopeful date is 15th or the 17th.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Yeah no news from my store. Let’s keep our fingers crossed for 15-17th now.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
All the stores here are very sure about 17th and definitely not before that. I have resigned hoping against hope for an early release before 14th :D
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Wow as long as they are sure then atleast it’s good news. Anyways 17th always seemed plausible. Being a Tuesday. I was not expecting a weekend launch.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
Two renowned CDIT retailers are expected to have "numbered" stock in their respective DCs on 14th.

- info "sourced" from vendors who deliver to those DCs.

It goes from DCs to respective stores for customers to purchase. So, 14 -17 fits.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Wife was able to redeem the buds+ offer now and place the order. Unlike last year no option to pick colour. As long as it’s black ?

Delivery by 3/16
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sunny1119:
Was able to place order now :)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sendhiloo7:
I about to get today [emoji18]

Out for Delivery: Your Samsung order 1116626xxx with Galaxy Buds+ is out for delivery. It will reach you by end of today. Track your order here http://shprkt.in/27bxxx.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
I think, by the time we get our Ultras, the buds will be "out of stock" :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Hahaha lol yes. But look at the bright side, maybe they are saving the colour choices for ultra folks ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sasha8200:
As per local shop we opt for exchange discount we cant avail EMI at 0% on Credit Card
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Yes that’s correct. I was told the same thing at the official store too. You can choose either exchange bonus or no-cost emi.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sasha8200:
What is best negotiated price for S20 along with Exchange offer S10
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Wife paid 38k for S20 exchanging the S10 which was exactly 1 yr old. So that’s 29k off.

If you invite me to a party I can share some anecdotes how I managed to sell my S10+ at the same place for 26 ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
They can always do it....For my Note 10+ last year, I got both the upgrade offer 6k, no cost EMI and was also able to redeem the smartclub points 1600, for the purchase.

I was told they use the refrigerator or the washing machine EMI offer to get you the no cost EMI. :D
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
That trick might work at a multi-brand store right?

If you’re dealing with a Samsung cafe, maybe not? Atleast I have been told so starting with the S8
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
No no.....It is a Samsung cafe which houses all other Samsung products as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
I just called my store guy... 30K plus the exchange bonus.. He said he will do the best on the day but 30 is what he is committed to, at the least. S10+ 128gig
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Shushant:
I'm glad it's working for you, for me though, I'm still facing the same issue. I have no idea what should I do?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Don’t worry bro. Just call their support and they should be able to sort this out. As long as you have proof you preordered the device, you should be good.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
BTW.. Happy Holi all! Stay Safe!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] rockyseenu:
I'm facing the same issue. Contacted support and they've logged a ticket stating the same will be fixed by their backend team within 48 hours. fingers crossed...!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] krayonn:
Same here. But it was such a pain to get them to even accept that there's an issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Shushant:
What was difficult to convince them? The otp being sent to the wrong sim ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Can S20+ owners here confirm if Indian version supports e-SIM?

check if under Sim Card Manager > eSim section is available in Settings.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
I know you asked for + but I can confirm the s20 doesn’t show any esim option on the path you showed.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Which also means plus and ultra wont support it in India. I just got this confirmed with Samsung support as well.:(
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
One member on this thread says it works and they have the active 2 lte watch.

Not sure how the lte Watch is supposed to work if the phone itself doesn’t support esim in India?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Thought i could opt for this S20 Jio offer as my secondary connection...now that its confirmed esim is not present, no point in going for a second connection as my Sandisk 400gb microsd card will occupy one slot for sure.

128GB storage, Samsung just played around royally this year...256gb could have been an option atleast.

"Jio users will get double data benefits with additional one-year unlimited services with Jio's annual plan of Rs 4,999"
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] paras:
I think the 128gb will really scare people away atleast from the Ultra and Plus model prospective buyers. Its stupid to have 128gb when u boast 8k recording.

Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Use cases may be subjective. But ever since I got a gigabit connection, I have barely used the phone storage for watching movies (OTT apps FTW)

For camera I can understand the angst, but as long as there’s a memory card it shouldn’t be too much of a prob right? I mean I have a 256 gb card from the S10+. Don’t see it getting used much at all now.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Atleast during the initial days shooting 8k videos and 108mp pictures showing off to friends, we might need more memory :p
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] paras:
Hehe great point
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Agree. If only the community makes its displeasure noticeably apparent, that’s the only way to drive home the point. Voting with the wallet would’ve been a good option but considering there’s no news of 512gb storage variants for India I can understand people this time were a little more receptive.

But yeah for 93k I would damn hell expect atleast 256 gigs. Considering the note10 I think was 256gigs at 80k.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Nothing much to blame Samsung here as we still have people paying in lakhs for a measly 64gb non expandable restricive phones. :p
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] paras:
iPhones resale value is far better than samsung. Its worth it buy a phone from apple and then sell it for around 5-10k less some months down the line.

Samsung itself offers note plus 256 or 512 gb for a price of 40k or 45k including bonus if i get it right. Thats 50% (give or take) for a phone around 3-4 months old. This is where i feel samsung is a bad investment on launch.

Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] krayonn:
Yes. Customer support guys wanted me to uninstall the app, reinstall after 2 hours and then try again. Literally had to yell to get them to file a ticket.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Are you sure second hand iPhones are still as much worth they were few years ago?

The price of s10 series were same as their launch last year until a few weeks back, were do we get Samsung flagships at a reduced price after few months in India?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] paras:
If u buy an iphone 11 pro max for say 90-95k on launch u can easily sell it for 85k plus give it or take after 4-5 months easy. Iphones retain there value no matter what and due to choronovirus the prices are escalated by 3-4k is what i hear around not sure.

Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sagarb:
here is the proof it works perfectly in my active 2 similarly in all s20 model they announced in official page only.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] bala_gamer:
Quick power analysis on the S20U; the 120Hz is a massive mess, the worst high-refresh rate implementation I've seen to date. [emoji2357]Even 60Hz is quite worse than the S10's, but yet to see what's to blame there.

Above from Andrei, shocking [emoji3064][emoji3064][emoji3064]
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Is this the active 2 LTE launched last year?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] readymarc:
Just got my s20plus. Exynos model, the camera is superb. Must say its way better than the note 10 plus.

I know some may disagree with getting the exynos model but trust me, you won't be disappointed. Well at least for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sagarb:
yes
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sasha8200:
I purchased S20 yestrday evening activated around 7 PM was able to redeem buds today morning.

I used single SIM in slot 1 with no restoration of back up from previous phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Getting a little confused, your watch supports e-SIM right? Do your phone S20 also does?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sagarb:
check the official specs of s20 all (indian)models they clearly said it supports esim.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] BoonPhunchok:
I just witnessed a almost 30% battery drain over night. Wow! I didn't even think that it would be possible in todays android and samsung phones but damn! It is lol

Anything I can do to avoid this ****?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] rohitverma141:
What is the best screen protector /tempered glass available for S20+

What is the best screen protector /tempered glass available for S20+
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
Turn it off :eek: :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
It also has little asterisks etc that say some features may be region dependent.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
And that kids why i have a 11 Prom Ax to fall back on.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] paras:
30% is huge. Just check which app is the cause and try to force close it or make it sleep often maybe.

Sent from my iPhone 11 Pro Max
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] BoonPhunchok:
You kidding me right? Lol
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Shushant:
In about phone of your device, do you see your phone number in front of your IMEI 1 or does it show "unknown " ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Wow this year the preorder freebies are really rolling out fast.

Wife’s buds+ ready to ship any moment. I think Sammy has a DC in Panvel/Vashi if I recall correctly. So should have them by Friday.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] iamnotkurtcobain:
Nice to hear. Please inform us how the battery compares to the Note 10+. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
The guy from the opera house had called me to make the full payment for the Ultra today coz the number of stocks he is getting are very limited, around 25 only, which will be delivered on the 17th. Should I fall for it? :D
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
LoL at 93k I can see why they are worried and anxious to get rid of whatever little stocks they get.

Off track but my store told me Opera House is the biggest store Sammy has in India so very reliable and bound to get the largest share in terms of units being handed out. I’d say go for it. It’s not like they’ll take your money and run away. Pay them with a conditional agreement that if things go south, they must refund your money.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Thank you.....called him again, he also says that there are chances of it being available from 14th but its of no use to me as I will be on vacation starting 14th until 17th. Should I wait? or just jump the gun? :D

Edit: Not sure why I'm getting into this confusion all of a sudden :D
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Come on man, screw holidays. Family, vacations, leisure can wait.

Pull the trigger and go for the Ultra ☺️

With the limited stock, there might be people breaking into the store, swiping 93k and taking away the Ultra during the night. Do you want to risk missing the ultra and getting a mere 93k back as refund because of no stocks left?

Not sarcastic, this was the feeling I got whilst at the store ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
I have actually cancelled my vacation (15th to 19th) as the phone maybe available around this time.. well this and Corona.. true story!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
I wish I could but I would be losing close to 60k as most of the hotels and flights are either non refundable or partially :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sagarb:
just contacted local store about my ultra pre order status he said 17th March :(
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sasha8200:
It shows my number.

I think number is shown only for JIO SIMS.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
Corona was just a bahana. We know now ??

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No. Shows up for Airtel sim too.

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Called the store.

Told them upfront that insider scoop is 14th is when units will be handed out.

They agreed ? so at least sometime between 14-17 for sure now.

They have assured me they have confirmation from their management one piece at least will definitely come and will be reserved for me. I haven’t gotten this much respect even at my in-laws. ???
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] lycan_codex:
Can you re-post the pictures please or share the original post if possible.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
https://twitter.com/andreif7/status/1237082755336474624?s=19
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
That’s for the snapdragon. He hasn’t analysed the Exynos yet. Everybody relax.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Shushant:
Not getting my Airtel number displayed, is there a reason for this? Maybe thats my issue as well ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] ace.arjun:
Hi Guys,

While i skimmed through this thread, I saw that lot of people chose the upgrade from S10/S10+ by agreeing for a lesser trade-in price for their older device at stores. I know how it feels to try and get your new phone at the earliest. But, do not give away your old phone for lesser than what you deserve.

I for instance have bought an S20+ online on the Samsung website on 03-03-20 and received it on 08-03-20. I traded in my S10+ (128GB) for an assured buyback value of 43,890 (38,890 + 5,000). I received a call from Samsung today that product pickup is scheduled, and that the assured buyback is for the phone and charging adapter alone. If I hand over the original box and earphones, they would pay me additional.

Please negotiate to get the best deal at offline stores or place your orders online on Samsung.com for the best offer.

Good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] twisted_mind:
That’s awesome bro. I’m gonna do this next year onwards. Still can’t believe i got 26k for the S10+
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
Yeah, 10x should be fine, it's just that 100x looks gimmicky.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
No eSIM support for Indian variants, it's nano SIM + another nano(or Micro SD card) like the previous generations.

- based on trustworthy confirmation from Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sendhiloo7:
Oh okay :(
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
While Flipkart page mentions of "5G" for the Ultra in specs, Samsung is confirming "NO 5G even in future"..

93k is insane for Exynos 990 + LTE only(if this is the reality) with 128 gigs base..
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Only thing that is still not getting me excited about this phone is the stand-by drain of Exynos.

Hoping that Samsung has fixed it in atleast their second gen 7nm chip, 990.

Another thing to be noted is that for countries with Exynos realease has support for 12GB RAM only.

Do I see a sub-par/under-par processor in comparison to 865?

Edit: Display available from 25th Feb, Opera house, Bangalore
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
The Shannon modem and the Exynos SoC both were responsible for the drain in the past(doubts went to the Mali GPU as well), not sure if anything "drastically" changed suddenly in the 7 nm+ process -- yet to see a real world comparison, but I'm not very positive about this new Exynos processor+exynos 5123 modem+Mali GPU combo...yet!

Not true I think. 16 GB RAM for the 512 GB is assured by Samsung UK, India etc. with the Exynos when I enquired.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
How is 128GB less? :o
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Last year S10+ 512gb costed 94k....this year for 93k at least 256 should have been base variant.

I know I'm talking like a typical Indian but :laugh:

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This is the worrying factor :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
That's not a fair comparison. There is def much hardware added to the S20 Ultra.

The 128 is already priced at 93K.. expecting a 256gb to be priced at that price when inevitably it will be higher is a bit rhetorical.. don't you think :p
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
Flipkart silently removed "5G" from the specs now:p:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
I checked with a resident of our society (a high official at Samsung Mobile division) - 5G is not likely to come to India for a few months. In any case the spectrum allocations have not happened and our carriers are not equipped for 5G yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
Since at first release, S10+ was priced at 74k & 92k for 128 & 512 gigs respectively, that was a humongous 18k difference just for the storage. Now for the 128 gigs base [MENTION=2620065]s20[/MENTION]U, priced at 93k it's already 19k difference for the "added hardware".

Last year I purchased the S10+ 512 gigs for about 72k cash payment on first sale, and the 128 gigs for 63k soon after -- 55mm watch+earbuds were in, for 10k and 3k respectively. Sellers weren't making a loss, it was possible because there are "marketing plots" that we consumers often fall into, and I was aware of it with the S10 series and to an extent -with the predecessors..

However, this time around, I believe, it's unlikely with the S20 series to get "equal" amount of discounts(excluding the earbuds' 2k offer which is negligible imo) - if I'm getting correct info. from resources. As such, 93k for 128 gigs looks pretty damm high to me. :p

Yes, no sign of possible commercial availability atleast for this year, but could have been better had it been little future-proof. :)

I'm wondering here - Samsung simply disabled the 5G capability for now with the Indian variant that can be enabled later if required/will not enable at all even when the 5123 modem is capable ..OR there's an older integrated modem or so(unlikely).
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] PG101:
I'll see if I can find some more info on the modem and if the 5G compatibility can be activated by just a software update..
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] sunny1119:
Yes i have read some articles too that they might enable 5G in these phones once 5G is available in the country, but not sure if it is possible to do via software update.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Virgo_Guy:
https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s20_ultra_lte_version_surfaces-news-41575.php
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Anybody going from Note 10+ upgrade for S20? If so how much are you getting for a trade in?

The Samsung cafe guys say 42k and recycledevice quote upto 50k....which one should I go for as I'm not sure of recycledevice?

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First proper camera review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ert92uzZP50
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Dr.Gonzo105:
Hey guys!

Just wanted to ask a favor or request people who are pre-ordering the phone, if you don't want the galaxy buds+, I can buy them from you at pre-order rate. Can't spend the retail price of it ?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] rahulkheria:
U wont get it at preorder rate
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Dr.Gonzo105:
There are some people who might do that

Even I did that once, there was an offer for galaxy watch with note 9. Gave it to someone at pre-order rate
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] paras:
Very true. I was trying to sell my s 10 plus 512 gb bought on launch last year but wont be selling after seeing 128gb for ultra.

I think s 10 plus is still a beast for me be it for gaming or general.

Loving the ui as well.

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Note 10 plus is more than good for u bro
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Guides, News] Kiran-Kumar:
Just made the full payment for S20 ultra....the Z Flip available for demo was so enticing, did not expect it to be this good.

The premium we pay is for the build quality, though lacks flagship features...Samsung has more than compensated and its it's stunning.