yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] boggsie:
I'm not exactly sure, but I can tell you one thing, Vet's is probably bigger!

that reads funny, especially if you've seen the movie

Go to the first page in this thread and download the schwartz rom.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] computerjunkie:
So is schwartz just another ROM? And do I need to flash that first before I flash the Raphael ROM?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] xXBlind:
Schwartz is one of Vets ROMs. Not sure which one you're using... but it's either Schwartz or BlackPill.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] computerjunkie:
Does it matter which one I am using if I am planning on upgrading to the newest one he has (raphael)?

I'm trying to figure out if there is anything i need to do to before i flash the Raphael rom. I know i have one of Vet's roms now. not sure which one but it's his.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] computerjunkie:
Never mind, found the answer. Is anyone else having this problem:

When I connect via usb to my computer, I get a strange LARGE screen on my vogue that is asking something about activesync. I can't read all of it because it is going off the screen.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] boggsie:
That is the new USB connection application ... it allows the user, in real time, to select the type of connection for that session. It is activated each time a USB plug is connected to a computer.

You are seeing 25% of the screen, because the resolution of the original device is 640 x 480 and this application is new so there aren't AFAIK ready-made 96-dpi files to swap in from another WM6.1 build.

Although, now that I think about it, I have seen this application show up properly on the touch screen ... hmm

Oh well, that's what I think is happening.

Best regards,

-boggsie
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] SeeBeatty:
We have a winner!!

^Yes, and there are three different USB to PC active items in the /Windows directory,... I'm thinking that the .html version is probably throwing a curve in there.

Vet, I've got Raphael up and working just like I like it! It is snappy! I kept gowing back to 1Schwartz.exe to get the configuration I needed,... but I'm all moved over now. Thanks so much for all your work on this Kitchen! I disappeared for a few days to work out some things with UC,... but it's all good now.

That chirping noise is gone now (it must have been a conflict with something else I was trying to install,... like nueAudio or something). Like I said, I cleaned out UC and it worked out great!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grondinm:
hey vet. Been using your rom for a short while now and i love it. the only problem that i noticed today is this. Now that i have my phone set up just the way i want it i wanted to do a backup using SPB backup but it keeps freezing on me befor it even starts doing the back the farthest I've gotten is to the point where it said preparing for backup...not sure it's related to your rom 100% but it worked before i flashed your rom....any thoughts on this??
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] sneakk:
Thank you

Just wanted to say thanks i loaded black pill and upgraded to 1schwartz yesterday know im wondering how can i use those OEMS from version1 to create a rom. how do i load them into a kitchen or what i need to do. thanks in advance
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] leoiden:
always exciting to see vet online

hey bro anything to share ?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
^ Nah, browsing from me phone.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
hey vet... im with cricket and i just wanna say THANK GOODNESS FOR YOUR ROMS!!!! since i dont know anything about kitchens is there a way you can make your Raphael a pre-built vet styled rom?

btw... i wanted to donate you for your work but didn't see any 'donate' links
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] No1ustad:
Hey vetvito,

Just wonderin if you could upload the rom you released on 5/29/08. I can't seem to find the file i dl'd....

also, wonderin how to access the ##778 on your roms? do you have a way to do this b/c ##778 doesn't seem to work. :-s
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
^

Which rom was it?

##778send or install your carrier cab and use their format

just double click Buildnb.bat, let it relock, make your selections and press play. Pretty simple.

Just a thanks
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] arlojj:
Hey guys! I heard good things about Vetvito's rom, so I came to check it out.

I've been reading and reading trying to find any information I can about cooking up my own roms for my Bell Touch (Vogue).

I found a pretty good modified stock Bell ROM that I'd like to do my tweaks and additions to, but I'm stumped on how to get stated.

I've downloaded PPCKitchen, neokit and now Vetvito's kitchen, but I'm still at a loss at how to extract the parts from that .nbh (this one only contains 2 splash screens and OS.nb) and then compile them all together again.

Can I do that with Vetvitos kitchen?

Thank so much!!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Ameet:
a lil credit for sharing the source of raphael rom? :D
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] No1ustad:
thanks for the ##778, stupid of me not to get that. I found the ROM build I was looking for as well. thanks :)
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] AlexCross:
just wanted to say thank you, best rom for me so far....
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
http://www.mymobiler.com/ -- It allows you to view your phone on your PC and use the keyboard with it. Great for adding contacts and stuff. Odd that it wouldn't work as its a simple protocol I think.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
:Dthanks Vet.... i will try that as soon as i get home:D
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] JCCool:
Hello everyone...

I need some help. I've been trying to get the make vetvito's kitchen work with build os. I keep getting an error that says there is no XIP folder. I need some help setting this up correctly. I tried to modify one of the text files in the projects folder and I've copied over the rar file into the kitchens folder. Help Please. What am I doing wrong? What am I missing? Thanks!

JCCool

Got it... Didn't realize that all I had to do was execute the build file in the main directory.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] leoiden:
hey vet here is a crazy notion how about

swartz hybrid with raphael or hybrid vista with raphael or how about a dark glossy gui all around would be wicked!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
my bad, lol!

ababrekar- rom source
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
dark glossy sounds nice; i already have some icons but i need pics.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Whosdaman:
Vet, what is the most recent ROM you have cooked for this kitchen? Cause in your post it's hard to tell what's a ROM and what's a kitchen...I'm only looking to use your ROM and test it out, that's all.....

EDIT: The full versions please, not cleaned
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] JCCool:
Is anyone having trouble using their GPS with the recently released Official Sprint ROM Radio? I cannot get this to work consistently. It works sometimes. Then it just refuses to lock. Any suggestions? Thanks! BTW, Vet, I love your ROMs. They are awesome. Thanks for the hard and wonderful work. I really appreciate it.

JCCool
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] leoiden:
hey vet

check this link out its from the old days of hermes rom cooks this guy liked to customize the gui also loved his cooking as well and includes some idea of the glossy black!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=314263

;)

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM_VI_Black_ROMs
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
help!

i double clicked on buildnb.bat and im getting

'windows cannot find 'ROMupdate utility.exe' make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again'

am i missing a step?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
So I'm confused, is Raphael a full rom or only Kitchen? I got 1Schwartz now, but I'm always looking out for the better/faster and would like to give her the old college try.

In other good news, I just rebooted the PC and MyMobiler works fine now.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] sneakk:
I was having same problem delete the folder where every thing is stored and then unrar it again. i also downloaded ppckitchen and installed that on my pc. after ppckitchen was installed on my pc i opened it once closed it then i went in and clicked buildnb.bat and it worked like a charm. im not sure wether or not ppckitchen installed on my pc has anything to do with it but again it worked after that and quite fast i might add anyways hopes this helps.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
THANKS for the tip. i will try when i get home. when i comes to kitchens im a mega noob!! :p
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
Ok I am trying the kitchen for the first time... a bit confused.

I did the updater, chose the Generic stuff, vogue drivers, etc. But didn't dl any images because I figured I'd be using Vev 1.0

But all it does is let me set up the startup logo and stuff, where do I actually select the "base" rom as v1.0.rar?

Do I just drop it into the Kitchens directory? Do I need to unrar it (PPCKitchen help file says no, above post says yes) ?

I see on one of the small Vogue_302.txt files it has paths like this:

KitchenDir=Kitchens\Vogue_19588.rar:

ModuleDir=kitchens\SYS_19588_QVGA.rar:

ModuleDir=kitchens\Generic_OEM.rar:

ModuleDir=kitchens\Drivers_Vogue.rar:

ModuleDir=kitchens\Carriers_Vogue.rar:

I made some changes and saved it and mine says:

RomDir=ROM

ModuleDir=SYS

ModuleDir=OEM

ModuleDir=PPCGeeks_OEM

ModuleDir=USER_OEM

Do I have to manually point to the v1.0.rar location?

What about all the other parameters in the file, like PreProcess, PostProcess, SelectionsVersion

PPCKitchen installation page is not so useful beyond install.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] a2k:
XML Provisioning

It appears XML provisioning via UC does not work with the Raphael ROM.

CAB: command appears to work, but XML: provisioning commands do not take.

Any thoughts?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] SeeBeatty:
^^ Mine worked just fine. Check your SDConfig.txt and make certain that the XML: has a space after it and that you spelled your provisioning filename out correctly (including path ie \Storage Card\MyNameProvisioning.xml). Remember that the first 5 characters of each line in the sdconfig.txt are reserved for commands.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] SeeBeatty:
What the,... ? Who the,... ? How the,... ?

Whew, FOLKS, don't over complicate this - it is EXTREMELY simple:

1. Download the .rar from the link (listed in the first posts)

2. Extract it to a directory of your choice (I used C:\Kitchens\VetVito to know what's what).

3. Run the BuildNB.Bat file that resides in the directory JUST ABOVE the OEM RUU folders,...

4. Wait patiently as it relocates modules in a cmd window.

5. When it's ready for your input, you will get a BuildOS window that pops up and asks you to make a few selections. Once you put the check marks in the boxes and fill in the dots with what you want built into your ROM,...

6. Press the Play button in the top left corner (should be a green >)

7. Wait and don't touch anything as a lot of stuff happens as displayed in the status bar in the bottom of the window. When it finally completes, it will say "done."

8. Close the BuildOS window when it's done.

9. Your system will go back to the BuildNB.bat cmd window and files when begin streaming past. Wait patiently as it cooks your .nbh file.

10. When it is completed, your .nbh is in the RUU directory, but you DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT! Because when it is finished cooking, it will bring up the ROMUpdater screen. Just follow those prompts (put your phone in bootloader mode and connect via USB).

finally, you have cooked a ROM. And you don't need to follow the steps above again, unless you are changing the INGREDIENTS in your ROM. Your .nbh will remain in the /RUU directory and you can flash to it in the future as many times as you like by running the ROMUpdate utility that is also in the /RUU directory.

There's lot's of this information explained in the wiki here and the stickies for the FORUMs on PPCGEEKS.com,... so if I lost you somewhere,... please go through and read those.

And if you are confused because you are using 1Schwartz.exe instead of Raphael.rar then it's because you have confused a ROM with a Kitchen. Fully cooked ROMs are the prepared meal from a restaurant,... you take it or leave it when it comes to ingredients. Kitchens are more open,... it's a developers way of saying, "Here are some great ingredients,... go cook yourself something." If when you are finished it tastes nasty (aka doesn't run worth a darn) it's on you,...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
ya I figured it out when I realized "Kitchen" didn't necessarily mean to use "PPCKitchen"... we need some better naming conventions here.

Anyway I got the raphael installed, one thing i miss from the Schwartz is the default background image. can someone please upload that here so I can put it on the raphael phone
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] Grondinm:
as much as i hate quoting myself....after deeper searching i found out that it's a fault in SPB backup it seems that when it gets to the point of closing backgroud apps it tries to close itself so turning off the option to close background apps fixes this problem(in case anyone else runs into it)....best rom/kitchen ever can't wait to see what you cook up next...
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
On second thought... I think i'll be goin back to 1Schwartz... i like the "package" there... plus when i connect my usb it gives this oversized image of options.. but all in all it just feels like the HTC Touch.. i want to feel like the Diamond or the Raph.. the grass is always greener... except when the background is the default green :P
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] SeeBeatty:
while you're back on 1Schwartz save off your /windows/*.tsk files,... that's that "dark wood" background you are liking so much. Put them on your storage card and then you can copy them back if you flash to Raphael or another ROM.

What's on top of the OS matters little to me - because I have a highly customized UI that I lay over it all,... I just need it to be 1. Snappy 2. Stable 3. Simple 4. Stunning and 5. Satisfying,... :p

And Vet's ROMs fit the bill perfectly.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
I usually do save them, but I was hoping vet included all those themes on all his stuff.. I use rltoday with a simple theme, but the Darkwood background makes it look damn sexy.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] leoiden:
hey vet could you please consider adding the capability of overwriting in the kitchen instead of the proccess stopping because the file or image or whatever already exists very time consumming and annoying trying to make oem packages compatible!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
Thank you

Thank you SeeBeatty for that. Thats perfect for a total noob like me.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dezandmatt:
hi need help need black pill !!

i ran the rom after flashing july5bp rom,now no cricket only errors,i have active cricket with htc vogue aka the touch i really would like it to work totally,it was sprint love your work vet!! hope someone can help me!!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] boggsie:
Is the driver(s) that apparently helped to speed up the Diamond release included in the packages based on the Raphael?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] akasirro:
man i've been waiting for the updated bp... vet u f n rock

thanx
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
still getting:

'windows cannot find 'ROMupdate utility.exe' make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again'

i'll stick with his pre-built roms :o
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] sneakk:
im tellin you i had the same frustrations, but after i installed that ppckitchen prog. everything worked perfectly. i did not, and i stress this did not use ppckitchen to do anything with this version1. but for some reason maybe it had some type of driver or something couldnt tell you but whatever it worked after i installed the prog. give it a shot just might work for you as well
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
I really didn't care for the kitchen ... Not sure what was so "raphael" about it i guess... nothing seemed any different than the normal stock rom, just a bit less carrier-specific.. and it was nowhere near as peppy as 1Schwartz.

I've started associated classes of roms with people:

Pristine - JakDillard

Medium and functional - OMJ

Packed and full - dharvery

Fastest and best - Vevitos (Schwartz)

The raphael kitchen doesn't fit the vevitos for me. its more of a JD/OMJ combo... but felt like normal ol' vogue
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
thanks for helping me in my first kitchen endeavour... can you give me a link for that program? i went to ppckitchen and not sure which file to download :confused:
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] DssTrainer:
^^ Check the "Installation" page
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] SeeBeatty:
^That is because your PC environment is not setup correctly. Installing the PPCKitchen also installs necessary drivers and sets your PC environment to operate BuildOS properly. Sorry I left that out earlier. But the stickies and search capabilities are your friend :)

I think this link has almost all your are looking for

How do I install the PPCKitchen?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
I got it!!!!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love this community.

:D:D:D
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] tmorris52:
Hey Vet

I am not sure if anyone here has posted this idea for your next rom. If so then I apologize. I played with the samsung instinct and the main feature that I liked was the vibrate feed back when you scroll through your contacts and etc. Also I asked you this before and you did answer but I am still having trouble with youtube working on my phone. I got the update of the newest tcpmp player like you said but it still didn't work. I flashed my rom to check and see if it would work and it did on OMJ's but then my phone was acting retarted so I flashed back to my old sprint rom and radio lol, yeah you know the rest so I am waiting for a new one in the mail now. Just wanted to get info on the youtube situation before flashing my new touch. Thanks for your time.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] boggsie:
Perhaps a silly idea

Perhaps a silly idea, but here goes anyway.

In the Elf sub-forum (I think that is where) a cook / chef puts together absolutely bare-boned ROMs as a base and includes User Customization. Thus, everything that is not essential to the operation of the ROM, is available as an add-on.

Of course, as soon as I head down this path, I think of exceptions ... Voice Command, SQLCE, .NET, Office ... things that you really do want as part of the base.

So that is my vote; a stripped-down base (with above exceptions) comprised of cobbled together from the best part of 19958 and whatever is in the Diamond platform (19591) that seems to make it so quick!

Oh and if possible, fixing the menu disappearance that occurs when switching from portrait to landscape and back.

Now, I would really enjoy working with that rom (described above) as a base and using UC to add the supplementary applications.

I am somewhat of the odd-man out in that graphics and presentation don't make me feel particularly attached to the device. I have the same theme and today setup ... close to going back to my smartphone days. I just want faster response that hopefully comes from a (presumably) more mature and optimized OS/SYS/XIP/AKU versions that are coming out.

Best regards,

-boggsie
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] SeeBeatty:
^^I know I'm just b00n around here, but isn't that Raphael?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] boggsie:
Whatever is more b00n, that would be me :D

Raphael, as I understand it, is most recently identified by ports that are 5.2.19958 where the Diamond is identified by ports that are 5.2.19591 (or 19588, an interim or earlier release).

So, being the b00n that I am, I am suggesting that (perhpas) there is something to gain for the Vogue from pieces of (drivers ?) from Diamond as well as the OS, etc. from Raphael.

A fair response would be to say, "well, if you think there is something there, then why not port it yourself" ... to which I fall back to my un-spectacular b00n status! :D

I also wonder if the Altell release, which has a ROM version of 3.04.nnn might have some updated or optimized drivers.

Best regards,

-boggsie
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] computerjunkie:
Is there a task manager in the Raphael? I can't find one.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] boggsie:
SYS\Shell\taskmgr.exe

I don't believe that VetVito has packaged this as an OEM that you can leave out in BuildOS.

Best regards,

-boggsie
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
I see the questions, I will get to them soon. I'm catching hell with some Palm Treo's.

I know, good friend of mine.

Thats what the kitchen is for, Unselect everything you dont want. On my beta v1.1 I have included options for .netcf2.0 and .netcf3.5, in another beta I'm going to implement a option for Sqlce3.5 and Voip as well and see how it goes.

I want to add options to a lot of the BaseApps like, file explore, notes, etc but I havent gotten around to it yet.

I run from the hybrid stuff. You can not experience the full benefits of a build if its mixed. i.e. CE OS 5.2.19212 (build 19949.1.2.0)

Although swapping non working SYS parts out for working ones is understandable.

Menu disapearance? Will look into this, thanks.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
I cant edit it as I dont know the code. Its Bepe's BuildOS, I think you are accustomed to the other version.

the sounds of:

Ding Error

Ding Error

Ding Error

Ding Error

very fun huh :p
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] asenduk:
im just ready for whatever new you put out there!!!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] a2k:
Wicked Kitchen!

Vet, this Raphael Kitchen is wicked!

Thank you so much, keep up the excellent work. I do have a question... Exploring the kitchen, I found the following packages in the OEM folder:

AdvancedPowerMAN

BootLauncher

BTBPP

ConCurrenceMGR

DShow

HTCGestrue

LockStream

mHub

OutLookEnhancement

RingtonePlugin

ShareDll

SmartTouch

TouchFlow

Would you please be kind enough to briefly explain what each of them are and which I can remove and do without.

Many thanks!

BTW... What's the difference between SmartTouch and TouchFlow?
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] vetvito:
^ You can do with out all of them, but the rom would probably suck.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] mawst95:
Does anyone know the font settings (nuefont) for the 1schwartz rom? I am using the July 5th rom, but I like the fonts that were on the 1schwartz and I can't replicate them with nuefonts.
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] leoiden:
nue font calibri

get the package from the oem ppckitchen and added to the vet kitchen thats what i did and it works fine!
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] LycanNyc:
Just flashed with JULY5 ..
[Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development] dky1e:
dcd sprint carrier cab

Hi,

It appears that the link to the sprint carrier cab is not working

http://www.lifesnotsogood.com/dcd1182/titan/carriers/dcd Titan Carrier - Sprint.cab

I'd appreciate if anyone could post alternate link.

Thanks!

edit: found it here in case anyone needs it http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=323548&postcount=475