yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
you the proud owner of a too sexy avatar :p i always use pop3 emails on my phones and have always wondered why in Win Mobile Microsoft didn't implement the same mechanism they use for email programs of their PC windows (Outlook Exp, Win Mail, MS Outlook).

no matter how many times you delete a pop3 email in your WM ppc, it gets redownloaded the next time you hit Send/Receive. Of course, we're not left totally helpless here. There are ways to minimize the agony.

i suggest that the dudes using pop3, go to Email Setup settings and change the Send/Receive option to "Manually" and then (in the same place) change the "Downloaded messages" to "Today's messages" or at least to "From the past 3 days".

If they choose "Today's messages", they should be patient and NOT delete the unwanted emails on the same day they receive it. (the same goes for "From the past 3 days" - they have to tolerate the unwanted mails for at least 3 days if they choose this option and then delete the 3-day-old mails).

in both cases , while Send/Receive (while the device is syncronizing with the server) the user will see the message that the device is downloading such & such number of "headers" . but it's only headers and no actual email will get downloaded if the user observes the above said.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
ooops, i must have been very sleepy last night 'cause i'd attached a previous Adv_cnfg ! the one i intended to post was indeed the same as you've now attached.

as for Dutty's ActionScreen, hope you can find it. i couldn't.

BTW, i am just having a silly issue here (it's the same in both 1 & 1.2) : the 3G icon is replaced (more than usual) by the ugly x_&_arrows sign.

i understand that it is tied up to one's network (and the amount of coverage one can get in a certain spot). it happens with all roms (stock or cooked) and i had it before. but it appears that this is now happening more often.

the funny thing is that right at the time the 3G icon is gone and replaced by x_&_arrows , the phone functions perfectly well (calls, internet connection, GPS...etc.) everything works but without the 3G or even the G icon !!

it should of course be mentioned that (with Orange UK) inside my house i have the poorest reception in the universe ( get either no bar or at best only 1 bar - and i'm in London for God's sake !). To get a good reception i'm usually hanging out of the windows ; one of these days i fall out down onto the garden and you'll miss me in the forum :D. as soon as i step out of the door of the house, i get the full bars - how annyoing. i wish i could move our house a few meters away :D

do u get the x_&_arrows more often with this rom ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] spaul:
Hi, could it be that the ROM is incompatible with Card Export II? I was able to use version 3.06 of the software with my previous ROM (Dutty's) but since I switched to yours (which by the way is very fast and I'm happy with it) I'm unable to export my card.

Best regards!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] omarnone:
Awesome Rom!!!

This is by far the best,Smartest most powerful ROM i have ever installed on my tilt phone!!! GREAT WORK CHEF!!! And to hear that there is a second better ROM coming out soon,That's even better news,THANKS for the awesome work!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
For those who experimenting problem with Adobe PDF reader, with no association file,.

Install this CAB,.

Thankyou, all of you guys,. :)

Regards

Garmin

ps: I am not feeling well right now, maybe i'm getting sick, so i cant come to forum so often,. sorry,. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
Hello again carlos,.

Thankyou, $$$ have been received bro,. :p

See you in PM for personally thankyou okay,. :D

Regards

Garmin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
Hello spaul,.

Personally, i never tried it yet, i might try it when i got the cab later,. :p

I hope for the next version, it wont be any problem for you,.

regards,.

Kumara Putra
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
Awesome Post !!!!,. :D

Thanks my friend,.

Which one are you using now? the DK.1 or DK.1.2?

I hope you like both, and keeping it until next update,.

Regards

Garmin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mightyox:
You will need a newer version, I am using 3.12 and working fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
Bardia, i know how's your feeling now, you miss the 3G button right?

and i'm so sorry for making the x and arrow button ugly,. :o

hmm,. well let me explain it,.

How if we make a sugestion that the error was not in my ROM, but the 3G receiver or something?

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When i have DK.1.2 finished, i keep make video call (its cheap enough here) with my friend,.

- The video call will only work if 3G icon is available / shown -

means, that as long as i can make video call, the 3G icon was still there,.

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Then why did it change into ugly x and arrow icon?

- Yes it supposed to be the G icon that missing -

Garmin.DK.1 and Garmin.DK.1.2 have missing G icon,.

So if the G icon should be shown, (replacing the 3G one), it wont be shown, but the x and arrow one that will be shown,.

You should know this basicly dude, if 3G is unavailable, then it should be replaced by G

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In garmin DK.2, there will be no missing G icon anymore, i could promise you that,. (not with tweak, but repaired via XIP)

and at the present time, yesterday, today, day before yesterday, and so on,. The 3G doesnt work in indonesia,.

I have tried to reflash with my DK.1.2 (to check wheter is it a bug for DK.2), but 3G isnt available still,.

I tried to reflash with original WM 6 and WM 6.1, and 3G is not available still,.

finally i ask 3 operator provider in indonesia, then they all say that the 3G service is down,.

There, now i believe that it was not a problem, or bug, for my DK.1 or for my DK.2,.

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How to have a further check?

- Disable 3G in CommManager (it will show you the ugle x and arrow icon then)

- Install the cab attached (I havent check it, and i dont really believe that it will repair the G icon, because i think that it's coming from XIP, but its worth to try)

- Soft reset

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Might this help you, my brother,. be patience, okay,. :)

Regards

Garmin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] omarnone:
I am using DK.1.2 it's awesome!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
Thankyou for reporting it my friend mightyox,. :)

I'll update the thread about the compatibility bro,.

btw, would you share the cab here?

Regards

Garmin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _fm:
Thanks again my friend,. :)

I am more than glad to hear it,.

Regards

Garmin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] omarnone:
Hey Garmin,I'm trying ti install P1Tater's HTC Diamond Keyboard but it will not work? it installs but when i try to use it nothing,do you now how if I'm able to fix this? This is a pic of the keyboard i want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Try enabling xt9 using kaisertweaks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ivenhu4859:
it looks very great!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] omarnone:
I tried enabling xt9 from kaisertweak but did not work? are you using this keyboard?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dorosk:
Missing "G" icon for GSM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] azharnasir:
I've never installed a cooked rom ever and based on the reviews Garmins will be the one for sure. Considering that I'm on stock HTC ROM, can you please clarify the following:

I have a Tytn II, so which HardSPL is good for me?

Which of Garmin's two versions, 1 or 1.2 is recommended?

I've read all the post on cleartype, a repeat question since cleartype is VERY important for me (reverted to 6.0 from 6.1 because cleartype didn't work): Does cleartype work in Garmin's rom in landscape mode or not? (i use my device only in landscape) and if landscape works, are menus going to dissappear or appear gibberish?

When using the 24-hour time mode (military time), does the htc home plug-in have any issues with this? (I ask because I see the '0' in the time display missing)

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
hey dude, try the following Diamond keyboards.

First uninstall whatever SIP you've installed. SR.

Then install gullum diamond keys" (do NOT reset) and then install "gullum English Diamond Keys" and then soft reset.

Do NOT apply any tweaks.

- Diamond keyboard and Diamond Qwerty might have some problems in landscape , but that doesn't bother me (because when i'm in landscape i use the hard keyboard ! isn't the hard_keyboard supposed to be used in landscape ? :D)

- you might lose the "Word Completion" function of your hard keyboard. I can tell you the registery hack to fix it and get the hard_keyboard Word Completion back. but then that might cause you some complications with the touch keyboard and qwerty. (let me know if you'd like to have the registry hack)

you see, it's sort of a give and take. if you want to have that beautiful keyboard , you should accept some minor shortcomings.

let me know how it goes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
First off, THANK YOU SO MUCH for your comprehensive reply - i didn't bring your entire reply to save space.

Secondly, the fix for 3G WORKED :)

Please note that the PDF viewer fix also WORKED.

Awesome support. You're the #1 Chef. Full Stop.

I wish you'll soon feel better and return to your excellent thread.

Finally, i am NOT waiting for DK2. Why should I ? In fact , i was not even waiting for DK1.2 - as u can see, i'm still the happy and proud user of DK1.

As i said before, you don't need to release newer versions to prove anything. You have already proved your talents :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rdecker692000:
That is simply not true. I have used multiple ROMS and have always had a deleted POP email on my Tilt (or Blackjack for that matter) delete off the server if I had that option turned on on the phone. For some reason, the DK2 ROM does not allow me to do that.

I am currently running the ROMEOSV3 now and it allows me to delete POP Mail.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rdecker692000:
On the other ROMS I have used (including my Samsung Blackjack), If I have the delete off the server option selected it will, indeed, delete the email of the POP server. For some reason, Version 1.2 does not do that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Oh, i got you. Yeah that option deletes all messages off the server after they have been downloaded to your phone. Or that's how it is supposed to work. That is interesting that it does not. That does vary by email providers, however, the fact that it did work on other roms is definitely interesting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
if you check the rest of wm6.1 kaiser threads closely you'll see that it happens almost in all roms (even if you tick "delete from server" setting).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rdecker692000:
It works with the Death Series, L26 Series and all the Dutty's I have tried except for his April 29th release.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] omarnone:
It still will not work,even with SIPChange nothing a guess i'm using this super tiny keyboard?:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
I know sipchange never seemed to work right with the Diamond KB.

Did you uninstall the KB and sipchange, then reinstall Default IM.cab, SR, install KB, SR and then select the KB via Default IM? It should work with those steps unless there is a .dll issue with the rom and this KB.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] omarnone:
I can't uninstall the KB? i'll try the Default_IM cab anyway,THANKS BUDDY
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] harty83:
Erg. I still cannot get any third party sip to work consistently. I hard reset, installed touchpal and it worked. I then installed calligrapher and it worked after setting it as default using Default_IM but then touchpal will not work. I set touchpal as the default using default_im, it works but then calligrapher does not work. I begin installing my other apps and then none of them work! I'm yanking out my hair here. Has anyone else experienced this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
OK, will you please explain what exactly happens? I mean, suppose you send an email from your PC to the pop3 account on your device. you hit send/receive and download it, read it, and delete it.

do you mean after you delet the email on your device, if you hit send/receive again it starts downloading and receiving the same message?

i'm asking because this simply does NOT happen on my device with DK1.

and my settings are:

- send/receive manually

- download from the past 3 days

- delete them off the server
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
That is his point i believe, that it DOESN'T do that on this rom, but it has on others. I will flash a different rom tonight when i have time to see what happens when i use dutty's or leo's roms and try my pop3 account...if i can remember how to get into it haha, i haven't used it in so long
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
come on old-timer, i'm regularly sneaking around your posts regarding sips hoping you can find a remedy for the gorgeous Diamond KB.

BTW, presently my situation with Diamond KB on DK1 is as follows:

In Portrait:

- Qwerty works perfect in both ABC & T9

- Keypad works perfect in both ABC & T9

- Keyboard works perfect in ABC but silly in T9

In Landscape:

Well i never use any touch keys in landscape (only hard keys) but apparently the Diamon K's behavior in landscape in erroneous.

Generally speaking i'm quite happy and satisfied with what i have. where do you think i'm standing? is it very aweful ?

God bless you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
hey bro, i'm not sure if i got your point right. there are lots of "do's" and "doesn'ts" going around in these few posts regarding pop3 email and i feel a bit dizzy :D

I think he's trying to say that it DOES DO this for HIM , and i'm saying that it DOESN'T DO it for ME (does that help? or doesn't it :p).

in other words, when I download a message , it gets wiped off the server and i do NOT receive it again after i delete it from my deive (it's NOT re-downloaded simply because it doesn't exist anymore).

This is the right way pop3 email should work and i'm saying that i'm having it the right way with Garmin's DK1.

So Garmin's rom does NOT have this issue of re-downloading pop3 emails once they're downloaded, read and detelted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raiisak:
This was a hot potatoe some weeks ago, if im not mistaken a big problem whit Gmail for some. I am using hotmail as main but didnt experience any problems whit this rom. I know there are certain roms that had pop issues but moustly that was just for Gmail users, only once I had it whit hotmail but doesnt recal wich rom it was. Dam annoying it was specially on first sync as I had 50+ of useless waste on server :D Deleted it just for it all beeing tossed right back in my face. I aint using Gmail anymore (partly because of bumping to often into the server sync issue) but I am going to set it up and check if its a issue for me on this rom :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Interesting...you're right, it is confusing. I did try my pop3 server here. It did not delete my messages from the server when i downloaded my messages. I did let me delete them on my phone and they did not come back again. I don't use pop3, i use hotmail and windows live.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raiisak:
Clearing storage here :D Try Gmail aswell just to confirm that HTTP servers are okeydokey and its just a pop issue. I am up and running in 5 to triple confirm if pop3 is playing me a trick aswell :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I always use IMAP w/ gmail, but i'll give it a shot real quick. Gotta log into gmail and change my settings.

Findings:

@raiisak - you're right gmail works great. Downloaded the emails to my phone, it left them on the server (that's my gmail settings) but when i deleted a message on my phone, and then synced then it deleted the message from the web server also. So i have no issues with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redbandana:
dk1.1 I would delete them and they would come back until I deleted them of my main computer (not using gmail). However, 1.2 this does not happen and I receive emails to my pc even if I delete them off my device, which is a good thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
my learned friends, pop3 is a TOTOALLY different animal. you cannot compare it in any way with web-based email accounts such as yahoo, gmail or hotmail. simply because it involves specific outgoing/incoming mail servers (which are specific for each certain pop3 account).

Skatdawg, again i got a bit confused by ur post. once you say: "it did not delete them from server" but then you say : "they did not come back again".

if they did not come back again, it should logically mean that they're deleted from the server.

let me make a little clarification. i have a website of my company. based on the domain of my website, i can have up to 50 pop3 emails of my choice.

the web host who maintains my website and domain , allows me to have a control panel through which i can administer my pop3 email accounts. we use several of the pop3 accounts for our business. i have also made a specific pop3 account for my ppc device (i've called it "mobile@xxxx.com).

through the administrative control panel i have access to all our pop3 accounts (not only i can manage those accounts - i.e. add/remove them, change their passwords, assign higher or lower MB capacity to each account ...etc. i can also actually see how many emails are in each email account and how many KB/MB the messages are).

now i send an email from the laptop to my pop3 mobile@xxxx.com. on my kaiser i hit send/receive. the message gets downloaded. i see it, read it and delete it. 2 hours later, i hit send/receive on the kaiser again. it starts connecting, logging on ... and Finished. NO email comes through and it shows "0 Items".

then on the laptop , i go to my domain control panel. i check mobile@xxxx.com and i can see that ON THE SERVER there's NOTHING in the mobile@xxxx.com email account.

So everything is working as it should be.

very sorry for the long post but i hope everything is clear now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raiisak:
My best friend iknow, I ment I am using hotmail as main but didnt recall bumping into pop trouble, cause I dont use it. I know the diffrence between pop and http servers :) Reason I brought Gmail in on this is because there was a simular problem whit deleting mails using exactly that :)

I left 3 emails on one of my domains (use pop acc.) Downloaded whit kaiser and deleted them then checked for new mails, I noticed that it did saw the 3 mails and downloaded it but is not showing them. All 3 of them is still on server so yeh, its not deleting it from pop3 server but its hiding them on device after you have "deleted" it. Wich as you sad, not a bad thing.

Did anyone mention this on Duttys V1? Dont remember if it acted the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
If you check my second post. I tried accessing two different mail servers that i have w/ pop3 access.

First Mail Server:

1) Downloaded messages from server w/ settings to delete messages from server after download (did not delete messages)

2) Deleted a message from my device, then ran send/receive (did not delete message from server)

Gmail - have to test again, because i am dumb and forgot that the wizard sets up using imap not pop3, but looks like raiisak already checked and go the same results i had on my first test.

Update: Gmail has same issues as first email server. Same results as raiisak.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sebi112:
grey keyboard

Couldt please send me your grey or silver keyboard skin for german keyboard that is used here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=406346
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raiisak:
Yes confirmed, I tried a couple of settings from mail admin on domain but no luck so far. Tempted to flash to Duttys V1 and cross check if it acts the same on that rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I'm gonna try flashing back to shogun's death rom, and maybe dutty V1 and leo's V9. Depends on how crazy i feel tonight. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raiisak:
DK.1 is CE OS 5.2.19588 BUILD 19588.1.1.4

Dutty V1 is CE OS 5.2.19588 Build 19588.dutty’s

V9 is CE OS 5.2.19214 (Build 19214.1.0.4)

Thing is the diffrent chefs are using so many difrent parts taken here and there so I`m not even sure if it will answer the question proporly hehe.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Yeah i know what you mean. I guess at least i'll know how it was supposed to function :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rdecker692000:
Death ROM and L26 ROMS work fine for me. This one and Dutty's April has this 'issue'.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mcfarlan:
POP 3 Mail

I can confirm that Pop3 email is not being deleted from the server even if you select that option in account setup. It seems to be specific to this Rom because I flashed back to several others including my ATT standard Q-mobile, and when you delete an email on the phone, it is being deleted on the server. By that I mean when I download to my desktop, the deleted mail does not download there, neither does it download to the phone again. I have not flagged this as such a big issue because after I download mail to my desktop nightly, on the next MediaNet connection my mailbox gets cleaned up anyway, but that function is not working as it does with other Roms I have tried.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] raiisak:
Yepp, its confirmed that this is the way the rom is handling pop3, not really a problem actually could be someones favorite settings :D Hell, perhaps Garmin wanted it this way. Anyway, as much comotion this handling has got im sure he will come in and comment it. Perhaps hew wil change it for hes next rom, maybe not. But its defently confirmed rom related now :) I dont know if its just to rap up some files/handles and cab it, going to check around some. Could be it needs to be cooked in, not sure right now :rolleyes: Late now, lets try tomorow if someone doesnt beat me to it :D That is for those who wish to permanently delete mail from server from device that is.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redbandana:
It is deleting off the server for me in 1.2 but not in 1.1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] harty83:
Okay I have tried everything including every third party sip I could find, sipchange, IM default, sktools, hard resetting and installing, and in then end, none will activate.

Is it possible something got screwed up during the ROM flashing process?