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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Sergio PC:
Some screen shots would be Amazing please?

Thanks very much.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Flexer:
I would reaaaally appreciate some screenshots :)

Also, maybe a stupid question, but that's VGA-only, right?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
great :)

should be fixed with 0.2.6

download again.

good idea :)

try 0.2.6
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
oh.. SecondToday can't find the background-image of today-screen..

i know the app is in an early state, but if you want to help then send me a pm and we will try looking for the cause.

btw. there are still some things like reordering of plugins (settings) and scrolling of window in work and available soon.

for screenshots.. there's no need since it looks like the regular today-screen with plugins :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
this is a know issue..

solution so far.. add it to the exception list of htc-taskmanager and bring the SecondToday-Window to front by starting the program (executeable) again.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
no it's resolution aware :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] anubis.genix:
another masterpiece from ikarus!

now i can use my loved bs again :)

we're not supposed to arrange the order of plugins in the latest 0.2.6 version, right?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
:D

no not yet. It's coded, but tests missing. I guess it will be released end of the week but not for sure since i still have to work for money ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] hochgattererjohann:
ok - Now it runs

It is not enough to select a Theme - it is nessecary to select a definitiv Picture with resolution 640 x 480.

Thanks for helping to build in ohter plugins into the Diamond TouchFlo 3d
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] anubis.genix:
which features do you plan to implement in future releases ikarus?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
hm.. good question..

at first it should behave like default-todayscreen

then some features for plugin-developers are already implemented and used by BatteryStatus.

e.g. Performance features for quicker response or faster drawing like TODAYM_REQUESTREFRESH (which isn't supported by old windows mobile builds) to immediately recalculating the height..

So.. the most important feature is stability and performance.

I have some ideas to integrate trayicons, but this would only work with BatteryStatus since i don't want to hook the system or something similar only for trayicons.

And of course if you have ideas for a "better TodayScreen" then let me know hehe
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Flexer:
Wow, just tried it, and it's really cool!

Tested it on a Wizard though ;)

Thanks a lot fot the prog!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] leopardone:
great tool!

tried with spb diary and works well :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] zmob123:
I like it

Great idea. This is a must for those who use other plug-ins. I'll stick with you on this one. First I installed it, however the image I use for the today background (which with FLO 3D creates the background for the start menu) also creates the background for 2ndToday, can that be individualized in the config menu with a simple browse to file type function. Be cool to have a normal flo 3d background, and a naked chick in black heels on the secondtoday screen :D.

2. Is there a way for a checkbox option to bind the touchflo3d right softkey to activate the secondtoday screen. Right now I use WKTask which puts the minimized icon at the top to quickly switch over. Using it on one of the launcher buttons doesn't make for a super fast switch to hide the naked chick:D

3. Is there an option to make the naked chick dance:D

Keep up the good work. Just questions, not suggestions, just glad you did it. Can't wait to see the progress.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] therealholg:
Hey i'm quite impressed how my thread-bump worked out so far and even more impressed how fast you reacted on my suggestion great piece of software even in this early stage.

Here is my setup so far:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] PLoK:
@Baxter

If you manually add it into "exclusive" appz in TF3D task manager, it won't close & it will keep on running in background. Problem solved.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Baxter:
I don't use TF3D...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] elladb:
I can't see any Tray Icon (i want to see batti)

10x
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] tcatnat:
I couldn't get an older version to work on my Touch a while back but this version works great so far on my Diamond, much appreciated.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] toesucker:
No reaction to D-Pad actions

Hi,

I installed 0.3.9. I absolutely love it but for one huge problem. I do not see many people with this problem, so I hope you can help me with a workaround.

I only have one plugin activated under secondtoday, namely, PocketBreeze 5.4.1

The problem is that PB will NOT react to D-Pad actions, either the arrows or the enter key. I tried fiddling around with PB D-Pad settings, to no avail.

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] captspaulding1000:
what a great app. this is a must have on the diamond. excellent work. now i have one last thing that i can not find. i would like an app like this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=319505&highlight=effcomm

to put on my second today screen. the one listed above works but in vga it looks all messed up. the writing overlaps. anyone have a fix or an alternative that works on a vga screen. there was a pic posted in this thread that appeared to have one that worked.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2377123&postcount=21

anyone know which one this is?

thank you in advance for all the help.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
SecondToday version 0.4.0 released

- fixed: notify plugins for reloading background-image if it has changed

- fixed: remove focus on trayicons if SecondToday gets to background

- added: AppToDate-support
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] alexis_p3300:
just installed 0.40 but i have a manilla change button problem is there any keychanger.cab to do the work?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Robrecht:
Hi,

Has anyone found a way to use the scroll wheel with SecondToday? I'd like to use it to scroll through my PocketBreeze screen.

I've tried adding SecondToday to the Smarttouch programs list with the Advanced Config app but that didn't work.

Any ideas?

PS. I can scroll up and down using the D-PAD buttons, so SecondToday apparently handles button messages correctly; just not coming from the touch scroll wheel.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] doc-database:
Link broken

Hi, anyone here who can sent me a copy of SecondToday 0.4.0?

Download Link is down
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] andrediaslopes:
how do you remove completely secondtoday?

I've already removed the app and deleted the shortcut in /windows/startup but every time I start the device TF3D won't boot... black screen all the time :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] andrediaslopes:
i tried to make a shortcut to manilla.exe in startup windows folder but didn't work! why?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bbju:
I think you would have done this but just in case. Did you to Today under Settings and go to Items and check back TouchFLO 3D. That's the thing that starts up the TouchFLO screen.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] novalistic:
Try here . . .

http://www.novalistic.com/m505/cab/SecondToday040.CAB
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] novalistic:
Install the version 0.40 from our creator . . I love SecondToday :cool:

If you want to uninstall, go quit SToday 1st then remove program.

WHY remove this Program? :mad: This program is Wonderful! :cool:

Thank You.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] doc-database:
Thanks a lot
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kwill:
i have some concerns with the app, but great concept. i tried to make UL the only today plugin and just use that to get to any apps. but, it redraws the graphics horribly and i cant add any of my icons that are stored on the storage card. i then just tried using beejive and pocketsportscenter as the only today plugins and i still get the same bad redrawing of the graphics. ill try and work it out and see if there was something i did though. thanks again and the concept and app are great
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] PaulBunkie:
Great tool! Thanks to author!

How should i remap left soft button in second today? Now it show 'file not found' exception.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] William Richardson:
Love it - just read every post!! I have 2 questions;

1) Is there any way that we can add a Pocket Digital clock or similar on the second today screen?;

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocket-digital-clock.html

2) I installed Calendar plus and the 2 buttons at the bottom disappeared!

Now what to do - Dilemma! I want the calendar option but not convinced on the not having the switching - I now have to go to top right and press ok.

I am trying to make the second today look like the classic screen!

Any thoughts please? Thank-you

Will
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Bruce Inman:
Sweet App! A must have with Manilla.

I just assigned a hardware button (long press IE) to switch. Might be your solution, not sure what device you're running it on though.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Bruce Inman:
I had this after a softreset. You have to delete the prior setting and reset.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] alibehzad:
SecToday not in Taskbar and Settings wont work

Hi guys,

i really have problems with this app.

I installed it, followed the instructions and remade the manila key.

When first pressing the manila key after the softreset the home screen would appear - so far so good. But i cannot edit anything in it. Not while pressing in a free space for a long time neither by trying to open the settings of secondtoday (nothing happens when i try to open it).

And the most striking is that whatever i do, it does NOT show secondtoday in the taskmanager, neither in the HTC Standard Manager nor in Schaps Taskmanager.

Lastly, when i go to my Today´s Options i see TouchFlo3D is inactivated just after i activate Secondtoday.

Any Ideas?

I got XDA Diamond with latest O2 Rom (1.93.207.2)

I already read a lot through the internet and the only similar report was BlackFears Report in this thread quoted in this post.

Hopfe someone knows a solution!

A.B.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
it could be a problem with your plugins used with SecondToday.

What plugins are you using?

You can delete the settings.ini (in SecondToday-folder) to get the initial default settings.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] alibehzad:
didnt use any plugins yet.

Wanted to get it started and then try some plugins.

I had some plugins installed previously tough, all of them uninstalled a while ago and reg cleaned too.

The only plugins i use for the phone is Diamond TF3D Config.

Already deleted the SecToday folder
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] alibehzad:
While trying different things i messed up my Touch and had to Hard Reset.

After HardReset SecondToday works - so it probably was due to the previous installed and deleted applications.

Thanks anyway for this great application.

Greets,
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Jiggs1337:
When using PocketBreeze and secondtoday, PocketBreeze jumps left and right continually (as if adding and removing the scroll bar to the right). This happens only when setting "adjust height automatically". If i set the height in PocketBreeze manually, it's ok, but I'd like to be able to use auto height. It seems PocketBreeze doesnt know what height to settle on, maybe SecondToday doesnt report this value correctly?

Thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] bremair:
I tested SecondToday for a couple of days but I'm not confident. Spb Diary doesn't run really smoothly and the auto high also don't work. For me it isn't an alternative to the normal today screen.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Mister B:
Can't get Tray icons to show in Second today !!

Wanted this for Large tray icons & a couple of today plugins & a photo of the trouble & strife :-D

Any ideas on how to get the Tray icons to show Have used HTC trayapp & PHM traylaunch, all OK on main today (without TF3D active) but do not show on secondtoday ?

Help, please !!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Harts@J:
Is the slider on the right side from the SecondToday or from the TodayAgenda Settings?

There no screensize in the SecondToday and in the TodayAgenda the screen size is 430.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Jetra:
The same problem for me!!! I instaled the SecondToday and the TodayAgenda yesterday - first instalation and have only half size of screensize. The settings in TodayAgenda not responding :-(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] the guitarist:
hello everyone,

is it possible to have touchFlo3d on the first today screen and Spb Mobile shell on the second today? i'm using htc touch pro

please help me with this and if yes how can i install the spb shell?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] the guitarist:
ANYONE?!?!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
Project abandoned!?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] :
I have a 240x240 square screen device. On the first page of the settings, the portion that allows a custom background to be selected does not show up on the screen. The only portion of the settings on that page that I can see is the plugin selection, and whether to add the program to startup.

Can a scrollbar be added for those with smaller screen resolutions, or maybe another tab dedicated to background selection?

Is there another way to get to the custom background setting?

Thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
Sorry to sound harsh but this doesn't seem like the responsibility of such a program. I suppose if original today can "adjust" then secondtoday should be able to adjust the same.

The harsh part is this: Instead of "fighting" a lost cause, making programs work in a resolution that never was successful (thank God) for WM, why don't you decide to buy something more modern?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Joost39:
Best app. ever for HTC Diamond... thx...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Zjoske:
How do you get rid of the Calendar icon on the top left of the screen causing the whole agenda to move one tab to the right?

Oh... and ignore my pm. Didn't know there were more questions about your screenshot in this thread ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] asolano895:
This app doesn't work for me on the Touch Pro, it doesn't make the shift to Today and freezes the cell phone.....:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] posnera:
I need some very basic help. I just installed second today, and I'm trying to remap the softkeys. I want the left softkey to toggle from secondtoday to the regular today screen, but I don't know where to link the softkey to. Any help?

I got it. Just map the key to secondtoday again.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] cbr600:
uninstall didnt completely removed it

Hello

I tried this app on my Diamond, and after uninstalling it, i did a softreset and on startup doesnt load touchflo3d anymore and the softkey buttons are the same i configured in secondtoday.

It seems to load just an empty screen like the secondtoday one, but i dont have second today installed anymore.

How do i completely remove and go back to the previous state?

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] cbr600:
sorry for the post. i figured it out. Second today had disabled the TF3D from the today.

Reconfigured softkeys and all is ok.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] arix:
Now after the second today is working (great 10x) ,

Is there any NORMAL application to show the battery

in BIG graphics and BIG text in the Second Today, not like the others application (aka battery status etc) .. ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ilai:
Very nice work bro....many many thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] arix:
I finaly found something for Battery with option to change the fonts size and Icon size , it's PDAStatus.

To change it needs edit the xml files exist in the program files\PDA Status ,

"New "apearence/font-size" option added to the config.xml for font autosize issues manual fixup"

http://corner-a.com/index.php

It's my Second Today :
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ig88:
Multiple instances of SecondToday

you can have multiple instances of SecondToday right now.. (okay since version 0.2.7 hehe)

just clone the SecondToday-Folder and rename it to SecondToday1 or SecondToday2 or similar.. The Window-Title (configured in settings) of each instance should be different.

Ikarus,

Thanks for creating a great program. SecondToday works fine for me in the first instance. I cloned the SecondToday folder and renamed the window title, but the new folder launches or closes the original instance of SecondToday. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?

-Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
erm, is this project in fact alive?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mayen:
As far as i know: YES, it's alive!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] lion2:
I love SecondToday. Now I would like to know if there is any program that would allow me to have SecondToday automatically run after a certain period of inactivity. Sort of like a screensaver works.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Vladimyr:
No tray icons

Hi, I like 2nd_today too! But there are no tray icons...

All tray icons are crowding on the 1st today (I can see these if I disable TF3D).

I really frustrated...

Could author please finalize his nice program?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] NLS:
many half baked programs lately

I dunno, they get bored?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] therealholg:
Hey you guys

i had an idea about a customized mobileshell like nowscreen, so i i put together the following secondtoday.

and added it to the notification queue.

i used pocket digital clock, pocketbreeze and rltoday to get this result i think homescreen++ would result in better results, but i didnt want to read the skinning guide. if you want to rebuilt this with homescreen++ feel freee i would be very thankful.

i have two questions for this

- can i force SecondToday to show up and not to toggle? the thing is when secondToday was in front and i wake up the device it will be minimised (funny thing - i requested the toggle behaviour)

- is there a better way to launch a program on wake up than the notification queue? s2su fires up everytime i wake up the device. over the notification queue the device needs to be in full sleep, which is only after a few seconds?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
you could do this with windows-api, e.g.

HWND hST = FindWindow ( NULL, "Start" );

BringWindowToFront ( hST );

or so hehe..

i could also add such a commandline option :D

As soon as i have time agian (maybe this weekend), i'll think about that.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] eludor:
TouchFlo 3D on Second Today - NO!

Hi everybody,

I just wanted to share my experiences with TouchFlo 3D and SecondToday. My goal was to have TF3D on the SecondToday screen (I don't need TF3D on a regular basis), and have the "regular" today page populated with my normal today plugins, mainly the impressing TodayAgenda and a cLaunch area.

In a nutshell: That does NOT work.

I tried to configure TF3D to appear on 2ndToday, and all my other plugins on the regular today page. So far so good. But as soon as you switch to 2ndToday, TF3D starts up and performs some nasty changes:

It enables TF3D for the regular today screen

It automatically disables all other plugins on the regular today screen

It automatically remaps the "Home" hardware button to open the TF3D page, not the regular today page

This is definitely not what I wanted. I want to have my main today screen to be the one without TF3D.

Obviously, TF3D definitely expects to be the one and only today plugin, and if it's not, it takes action to reestablish that state :(

To bad, and definitely nothing that ikarus could work around, I guess. I'm still using 2ndToday (thanks for this great app!), but not with TF3D any more.

If I really need TF3D for some reason (e.g. to show a friend the nice weather animations...), I start it manually with a cLauncher button that runs manila.exe, as explained here by paulbacik. If started this way, TF3D does not make any changes to the today screen setup. I remapped my left TF3D softkey to call a mortscript that kills manila.exe, the softkey is labeled "Exit TF3D". That's not perfect, but it's ok for me.

Having TF3D on the 2ndToday would be better, but seems to be impossible with the current TF3D implementation.

I hope that helps, if you have the same goal.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] luckyuser:
@eludor thanks for the explanation!

Didn't work properly for me to. But I love to switch between the options.

Hope there will be an solution for it soon!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
Version 0.4.1:

- added: commandline-option "show" to bring SecondToday-Window to foreground
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MELPHBOY:
Remove OK close button

Is there any way to remove the OK close button. I would like to do this in order to stop Second Today from closing and I could use the quit Second Today or a task switcher to close Second Today?:confused:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Zjoske:
When I hit the ok button, Second Today remains active in the background.

Another option is to configure one of the softkeys so that you can switch between TF3D home screen and the Second Today home screen.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Besk:
How to setup a shortcut?

Howdy,

How can I setup a shortcut to any app using the tray?

I have my trayicon on the first today screen!

Just solved it:

VJTrayLaunch works perfect for me...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] luckyuser:
Unfortunatly,didn't work properly on my Thouch HD, can install, can use/switch it several times, then device get stuck/ hang up!

Need to do serveral soft resets. Almost had to remove backcover for that issue, on screen was impossible because device freezes! I think there is a big need for a manual, what inform user to do /or not to do, over general settings step by step, installation, first things first etc.etc.

Because of the possobility to do some settings in the normal/first TodayScreen and SecondTodayScreen App to, it seems to more difficult then it looks like!

Can't find this info anywhere, neither on your website, or did I something overlook!

Succes with devolopment, when it works I love it!;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] therealholg:
hi ikarus,

thank you works great!