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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MasK:
Up/Down will be added later, as mentioned by ikarus. Give him some time, and it'll be up :)

Background can be set either by changing today theme or setting background from programs->pictures&videos, then right click->set as background.

It's just like changing your original today screen!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] deCorvett:
Hi, if you provide me a language file and language support, I'll translate it to spanish language
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] house100:
Cool man :D!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MaverickCH:
how did you do that? I mean replace "Phone" with this application
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] zme999:
OKAY!

I've installed SecondToday and it works like it should when I start from the Start Menu or manualy.

But when I try to start it with the Softkey thru Manila it say that "...the file is not cetified..." or "...components missing..."

Anybody any idea?

Great work thou...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] therealholg:
double post - sorry
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] therealholg:
i used this tweak:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=404982

that's the error message if your path is wrong, so check your registry entry again! ... i know this is a misleading message
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
SecondToday 0.2.7 released

- added: Up/Down-Button

- added: Register on StartUp

- added: Use custom Background-Image

- added: Use custom Window-Title

i'll reply to questions tomorrow :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mfbatzap:
wooohooo! thx mate!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] GotBoost:
how can i set stoday to the left touch button in tf3d like in the picture? thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MasK:
Search dude.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=404982
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MasK:
Ikarus,

Thanks again for the quick update.

If youre still developing on this app, do you think it's better to take out the "tap and hold to settings" feature? At times I end up going into the setting page when I don't want to. Furthermore, the default today page doesnt work that way :P
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] mfbatzap:
yo! what did you use for the wifi plugin?

what program is that? Thanx!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iceman1987:
Woow great work Ikarus. It is great!

I have read that thread times but I can't get it working.

I have installed it in My device

And then Program files/Secondtoday.

So is the path my device/program files/secondtoday/secondtoday.exe?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
So far thanks for all the positive response hehe

great that i'm not the only one happy about a second todayscreen :-D

Next version will come with scrollbar-logic implemented and TrayIcons (only with BatteryStatus).

you're welcome :)

hm.. anyone knowing me knows.. i love linux-systems as well :D

but i'm not sure whether your request is really reasonable. It's not a problem to enable it with SecondToday.. in fact it is easy.. Just some housekeeping for the plugins of the containing window and some logic to show/hide them, but i don't know yet.

you can do it right now with BatteryStatus if you place all the plugins into several views and switch between them by gestures. (Consider one Row with multiple Views within BatteryStatus)

you can have multiple instances of SecondToday right now.. (okay since version 0.2.7 hehe)

just clone the SecondToday-Folder and rename it to SecondToday1 or SecondToday2 or similar.. The Window-Title (configured in settings) of each instance should be different.

Thanks for your readiness to help :)

Language support employing the way like BatteryStatus will follow as soon as SecondToday gets into Beta-State..

hm.. i'll consider that..

:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Flipside:
This is awesome :) I tried many things to have my PocketBreeze back, and this is by far the best sollution, thx a bunch for this
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SDay:
SecondToday runs behind TouchFlo3D

ikarus, thanks... this is very useful - on the other hand, some bug to report :(

I am running 0.2.7 on bepe's ROM... wherever i launch Secondtoday (from either Programs or SoftKey in TF3D), the SecondToday just stay behind the TF3D... I gave a customized title to 2ndToday so i know its launch... however, the main canvas is always TF3D and whenever i touch TF3D, it just switched back to the main today...

anyone has this problem or is it ROM specific?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BushwalkerSP:
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me:(. It shows only a quarter of the screen and it doesn't draw the whole screen upon selecting it. I've removed and we'll wait for a version that will work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iceman1987:
Well I got the same issue (rom 1.37 WWE). You can fix it by closing secondtoday by tappin on the SToday Quit icon. You can find it in the SecondToday folder, next to StodaySettings.

When you closed it, try to start it again. It works for me then. However, if you close it in taskmanager, you get the described bug/problem. So if you want to quit SecondToday (but why would you :p) then use SToday Quit and not the upper righ X button

My diamond is now perfect!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] monchatsam:
Same pb for me, but i've found a solution, it's to select this app in the exclusive list of the task manager ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] velvetdolphin:
Excellent program ikarus!!!

Did all that was advised in this thread:

Installed Second Today

Changed Right soft key to launch SToday

Included SToday in exclusive task

Now I can toggle between TF3D and SToday!!! I just love it!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SDay:
thanks iceman1987, ur suggestion did fix the problem... it was closed by taskman b/c haven't added it to exception list...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] princEd:
First would like to thank you for this nice application! :)

I tried it out on my Diamond (running Chinese Traditional OS) last night, I was able to launch Second Today but things were a bit gobbled up & couldn't display anything but the time bar & MapKing, so I un-installed it.

Looking forward to futher additional language support! Thanks in advance!

Nice work!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SorcererJP:
Great App, will gonna use it...

How do I change the right 'link' Programs in the bottom of my screen into 'Second Home' ??????

Have tried it with Advance Config, but it won't work...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] kangyit:
Thanks to all the Pros for creating all these fabulous plug-in!!:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] speedme:
How do you "include SToday in exclusive task" ?

EDIT : never mind, found it already
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] LamPET:
Thanks,

you should work at HTC headquarters.

Lampet
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SorcererJP:
Tell me ! I'm toying with it for the last half hour and cannot seem to get itc :-)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iceman1987:
go to taskmanager. Tap and hold at the secondtoday icon. Then you get a menu and tap on add to exclusive

cheers
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SorcererJP:
Thanks, but found out already, love the app, but cannot get it to work the way I want it to be !

I want to switch quickly between the two taody screens, but cannot get the softkey links to work....:-(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iceman1987:
You read this thread? And what kind of error do you get? and did you ALSO changed the HomeLSKText, and not only HomeLSKPath?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SorcererJP:
Of course I read this thread. Did both, but it doesn't show up in my Home-tab in TouchFlow 3D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] iceman1987:
hmm

did you get any error? And what do you see at the left (or right softkey)?

Phonepad or SecondToday?

And is your string correctly? Where did you installed it internal memory or my device?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SorcererJP:
Just Phone to the left and programs to the right...checked, double checked the path more then twice...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] speedme:
Ok, here's a plan how to get this nice program to run :

1. first install SecondToday, remember where you install it : onto phone or onto internal memory

2. go with Resco Explorer/TotalCMD/Explorer to the location where you installed it

(typically : \programs\SecondToday for installation on phone and \internal storage\programs\SecondToday if you installed it onto internal storage)

3. remember the location where SecondToday.exe is

4. Open registry and go to \HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila

5. double click on HomeLSKPath and type in the EXACT location where SecondToday.exe is located (includung capital letters)

6. press OK when your finished.

7. Now go to HomeLSKText and type there "SecondToday" or some other text that you want to show for your LEFT softkey

8. press OK to save this value

9. Close registry editor

10. soft reset your phone

11. After soft reset, it should show on the LEFT softkey "SecondToday"

12. Start SecondToday, if everything went well, you won't see Touchflo 3D anymore but the familiar HOME screen

13. Go to Task Manager, it should say that SecondToday is running

14. Tap and HOLD onto SecondToday in the Task Manager

15. You will get a popup menu with the option : add to exclusive list (or something like that).

16. Take that option and your finished.

Now you can enjoy switching between TF3D and normal HOME screen (with all the plugins that you like).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
New version 0.2.8

- added: TrayIcon support for BatteryStatus (build 0322)

- added: Big Tray icons

- added: ScrollBar-Logic

- added: changed close-button to ok-button

have fun :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] princEd:
Really nice & keep up the good work!

I'll be patiently waiting for a Multi-Language support version then I'll be a complete happy guy with my Diamond.

Thanks in advance!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] SorcererJP:
Thanks, but it is exactly what I did, no result..I already uninstalled second today...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] speedme:
What ROM are you using then ?

I'm using Surface 6.1.1.15, which is a Dutch ROM (not WWE)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BrunoM45:
Nice Idea, but some bugs ...

Hello,

It's a very nice Idea :)

But when i try it, i have some bugs :(

1) no have this element : Date, Calendar

2) Some element don't appear when checked : Resco Today Plugin

Thank's
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] MasK:
Date, Calendar and all other default windows items will not show. It can only show additional plugins. This has been explained in a post before.

As for your resco plugin, try to soft-reset the device and see if it appears. I had the same prob with my O2plus plugin. I went to the original today settings to check if its there, then made sure it is mirrored onto the 2ndToday. Works after a reset.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
reupped version 0.2.8 since some debug-logging-code was accidentally left.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] felician:
congratulations ikarus, that's very usefull tool
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] htc_diamond:
i encountered this errorFailed to load System Today-Watermark!..

Anyone can help me out with it? Thanks!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] thakidc:
Suggestion

Would it be possible to implement an opening animation? What i mean is, when you open it with whatever method (I use touchflo on my mogul, right to left gesture) to get it to slide your wallpaper over from the right or wherever so it looks kinda like the spbshell slide animation, but load the plugins after to save power, etc.

Just an idea though dont know anything about coding so....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
released version 0.2.9

- fixed: repainting of TrayIcons

- added: resizing of windows

With next version of BatteryStatus, you can show the batteryload instead of cpuspeed! See attached image!

you're welcome :D

hm.. try choosing a custom background in default-today-settings.

a good idea in principle..

I've tested some animations, but it's strange.. the BitBlt-function of Diamond is somehow slow.. even the VGA-Device-Emulator is faster in bliting memory blocks for rendering..

Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but animations looks good only for e.g. Prophet-Device..

i could employ Direct3D, but that's too much for just showing an opening animation..

Maybe someone can explain why the blitting is so bad or what i am doing wrong :(

Or maybe i'm one of the people having a device with so slow memory build in?

I don't understand it yet..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] LamPET:
Hi,

installed this program and evrything is OK. I also changed the softkeys in Touchflow, the left to start second today and the right to PocketInformant and also that is OK.

When I'm in secondtoday I got 2 new softkeys, the left Agenda (Calendar) en the right contacten (Contacts)

When I push the left I got PocketInformant Calendar, what is exactly what I want. When I puch the right one I got the standard contacts and not the contacts in Pocketinformant.

Is there a way to program those softkeys?

Thanks

Lambert
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] thakidc:
Well i hope someone is able to help you implement that, It would make secondtoday above and beyond. Im glad to see that you have already looked into this though.

Love the app keep up the good work.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
Version 0.3.0 released

A lot of improvements for performance has been added and now support for latest BatteryStatus build 1.05.140, especially for vga devices.

do it how you would change the keys for the default-todayscreen by registry-settings.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BlackFear:
I use your App on HTC Touch Diamond.... it always crashes and i cant even open the SecondToday Settings :confused:

Something is wrong...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
do you have any plugins activated in SecondToday (at first start) or does SecondToday crash right after installation (without any settings changed)?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BlackFear:
:( yep, I couldn't even enter the settings, lol
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Wolfblood:
Thanks for the good app.

I'm useing the HTC Diamond. Could you tell me how to show the below item on SecondToday?

- Date

- Calendar

- Tasks

- Owner Info

Others like the "Messaging", "GPRS Monitor", "RSS Hub" are running well on SecondToday.

Thanks for your great app :)

One more things, Can SecondToday support switch TouchFLO 3D between the [Home] Key? That's mean when show the TouchFLO 3D press the [Home] Key switch to SecondToday, When on the SecondToday then press the [Home] Key switch to TouchFLO 3D. If on other screen press the [Home] Key will return to TouchFLO 3D. That's will be look like more "Second Today"... Hope you can understand what I said. Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] thakidc:
I have a specific plugin which does not work with SecondToday for some unknown reason.

Situation:

1. I install tofclock today plugin (a photodialer plugin), all goes well, I soft reset.

2. Device boots, and Tofclock displays on Default today screen (It automatically activates itself), I go into settings and turn off Tofclock.

3. I open SecondToday and tap n' hold for settings page, I check off Tofclock and the Settings page closes along with SecondToday.

4. Hmm... Thats wierd, I try to reopen SecondToday, It tries to open briefly and immediately closes.

5. Soft reset, Try to open SecondToday again, same results....

Now I have tried different methods to get it working but always results in this "crash" which is only fixed by uninstalling Toflcock, and soft resetting.

I have attached the plugin Im trying to use below.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Oh also im using a sprint mogul with the leaked "official" 3.56 rom (Wm6.1)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
hm.. thanks a lot for reporting.

I can reproduce that problem, but can't make out the cause yet.

I'll do some investigation on this this weekend.

hm.. i don't know why that happens, but if you want to help, then i can send you a debug-version which creates some logfiles and helps me to find the cause.

Send me a pm if you have some time and are interested in such a help!

yes i understand. I'll check what we can do for this :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] flo83:
System Today-Watermark

Is there a solution for the missing background image?

When i try to start SecondToday there's the message: Failed to load System Today-Watermark. What can i do to solve this?? I'd really like to get this great app running!

Thanks fo any help
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] slow23:
There is:

Goto Settings/personal/Today

and choose a custom background.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Cendaryn:
Well I really like this app and it works perfect in combination with TF3D.

But I have one - ahm two - issues (see screenshot):

1) Background image is not shown "under" PocketBreeze

2) I can't change the color of the today lines. I tried UIteaker but no result. Even changing the TSK doen't help.

Any suggestions?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BlackFear:
Okay, I will send you a PM for debug version :)

Because I want that program it gives a lot of possibilities.

And I like to mod my Smartphone because then it is kinda individual, if you understand :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
great :D

i've just tried it and background was working fine.

you have to reload PocketBreeze, since it appears to cache the background-image for faster drawing.

at least i can't reproduce that... you may provide some steps how to reproduce?

the colors are taken from system. If you change a theme (tsk), then you have to restart SecondToday (for now).

btw. the color for seperator is number 4 from SHColor. Tell me if i'm wrong.

send me (by pm) your email-address and i'll send you back a debug-version.

it's fixed with the next release (soon...)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Cendaryn:
Ok :)

Picture is now showing under PocketBreeze... Thanks!

Anyway I think I'm too dumb to get those black today lines working! Has anybody a full flat TSK including black seperator lines but white text? I tried to import the original HTC Theme into ThemeGenCE but there was an error :(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Agent 720:
This program is super combined with the free programs Calender+ and Taskplus. Now I can se alle my appointments and task just by clicking the soft key.

Thanks it's brilliant
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
SecondToday version 0.3.1 released

fixed: init of some special plugins

grab a copy -> Project SecondToday

fixed with version 0.3.1 :)

you're welcome :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
you can override some colors by creating a registry-value,

e.g. for black seperators

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Color

DWORD Name=6 and value=0 (0 = black)

that is create HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Color\6=0

This works with default-todayscreen and SecondToday version 0.3.1

use DWORD Name=4 and value=.. for text-color

The default-todayscreen takes it immediately, but you need to restart SecondToday for the changes to be applied.

ikarus
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BlackFear:
Here you go, but I got some differend problems, the programm won't start anymoreafter the second time.

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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Cendaryn:
this worked!

You're my personal hero of today :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] monchatsam:
+1 I use exactly the same as you;)

If I can make a suggestion, adding the next feature would be without doubt a big advantage for people who can not make changes in the registry.

It would be nice that we can directly with Second Today modify the left soft Key of Touch Flow 3D to start Second Today, and make it invisible to the Task Manager for HTC not close it by mistake.

Thank you
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] poonvincent:
I successfully installed and work fine but the option just showed "Internet Calling", Windows Live, Windows Live Search, "Messaging", "Device Lock" & RRS Hub. I want to add other program such as calendar, task, etc in Second Today.

Please inform how to do. Thanks.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] tom50:
Please read the whole Tread before asking ;)

Your question has already been answered multiple times.

You can't add standard applikations in SToday. Only additional applik. can be added. for example calendar+

Greetings Tanzi
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
as far as i can see the program is still running in the background and that's why you can't start a second instance with the same title.

You can see it if you have BatteryStatus with taskbar-indicator enabled.. the taskbar-indicator is still there what means that SecondToday is still running...

Are you using a taskamanger and if so then which one?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] BlackFear:
No it isn't in taskbar. It show me still contact and phone underneath but I can't see it....

That is weird

And when I install the non debug version, it crashes
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
oh okay. i'll build a new debug-version with more detailed information.

So it crashes at first start without any settings set, that is the bug-report-send-to-ms-window appears?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
do you mean the new released version 0.3.1 ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
SecondToday version 0.3.3 released

- added: support for left/right-buttons for "Disable CommandBar"

There's also a cab-installer for remapping left-softkey to switch between default-todayscreen and SecondToday.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=100461&d=1216504005
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pLy0:
Hi ikarus..first thanks for this great apps. I was just wondering how to get those wifi or bluetooth icon below secondtoday. I ve been reading through the thread but couldnt understand where or how to get it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pamas:
With batterystatus.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
pamas is right :D

try BatteryStatus Advanced http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=270751

1. Install it

2. check it into SecondToday

3. Enable "Big TrayIcons"

4. Open Contextmenu of BatteryStatus

5. Select TrayIcons

You can add more trayicons in the options of BatteryStatus..
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] pLy0:
Thanks...will try it out now
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] Siruss:
Pocket Breaze

Hi,

Great app.

I just have on problem.

It does not work with Pocket Breeze.

It freezes.

Do you have a solution for this?

Regards,

Jose
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
yes, you must deactivate "automatically adjust plugin height", since i don't know (yet) how the plugins calculate that. This function results in different behaviors.

Spb Diary uses the max height and pocket breeze just freezes (actually it does not freeze, but ends up in an endless-loop setting its height to >500 and afterwards <300 and afterwards >500 and so on.. and SecondToday executes this request immediately compared to default-today-screen).

Does that help?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps] ikarus:
SecondToday version 0.3.4 released

fixed: retrieving of colors