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[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
There is gps problem on beta 2.

I'm on the road currently and phone can't find the location. It says I'm in Istanbul at fixed location but I'm nearly at the place that I dotted.

Didn't try beta 3.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
In a resting area it is able to find location but not stronger.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Raouldt:
Maybe this helps?

I have the same issue (Huawei watch 2). Mine says the problem is with Huawei Mobile Service. I've granted all permisions.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
logcat
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
I think I might have an idea how to fix it. It's a temporary solution that will probably stop working with Android 11, but that doesn't matter right now :)

I will probably try it tomorrow, I noticed something that _might_ be the reason that IMS isn't working and I would like to take care of that first.

Great, let me know if you notice differences in real usage as well (e.g. reduced closing of background apps, etc.)

Just don't drive so fast, the satellites can't keep up :D

But yes, maybe GPS needs some tweaking. When I use it outside I get a fix within 5-10 seconds though. Are you using gapps?

I'll second this and say: logcat please :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
I'm on the bus and its going with 90km/h.

I'm using opengapps pico.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
By the way, modpunk has also built 17.1 now and flashed it to his XZ1C. So there is another set of hands to work on ironing out the remaining bugs soon :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
Sorry, I was joking about the speed. I should have known that sarcasm doesn't work well over the internet :)

I'll look into it when I get the chance.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
No problem with joke man :) I got what you mean but I'm on the bus ??

Really appreciate your work bro ?Thank you.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] BigBrother84:
Hi

I switched to LOS16 and Viper4android, edxposed with xprivacylua and Netflix work. If I connect it with xdas navigation gestures it will be enough for owner of XZ1 which I prepared. ;)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] MWSTE:
I have a problem with backup
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
[MENTION=4063475]derf elot[/MENTION] Please let me (us) know if you need a tester fom ROM/Kernel things. I'm waiting my warranty to die, but if you need some testers i would happily unlock all and flash this ROM to help. I had some "tester experience" (lol?) with my previous phone Z3 (you can literally find Z3 topics/disqus spammed with my logcats).
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] BigBrother84:
So do I.

got it after updating to beta 3 when I wanted to create backup before switching.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Camera is working
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] coin3x:
Currently on BETA3. Tethering(tested both USB and hotspot) is not counted in the data usage. Is this an upstream issue?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] MWSTE:
Can i do a dirty flash?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
ill See if there have been updates for twrp recently that address this

thanks for the offer, I'll let you know. I was experimenting with ims last night but didn't use my dev device for some reason. now I'm stuck with a non-working modem and have to backup and flash stock again first
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Brun0ls:
Perfect ROM, but sad battery life, for me. :(
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
When you flashed it? its normal to have high usage in background some hours after flashing the rom
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
just to confirm: it didn't work right after flashing but started to work again randomly after a few hours, right?

most likely yes, but have to check.

if you are in beta 2, yes you can just flash the ROM. if you are on beta1, you have to flash gapps and/or magisk again with it
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Yes it is working is morning when I open the stock camera app, not immediately after flash
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] MWSTE:
I have a problem only in thise rom, app can't get permission to memory(i haven't got sd card)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tarch1:
What's your performance set in battery settings?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
Good news. I manged to fix the issue with the Sony camera needing the get the permissions granted manually. I hope this will also solve the issue with it not working for some time after a new flash.

While doing that, I also discovered why long holding and releasing the camera button wouldn't start it. That is also fixed now. :highfive:
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] hsheemi:
Excellent work, you are a genius man
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] haiha2001:
Nice bro ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] huxim:
great rom! I dirty flash the beta3 from LOS 16, looks everything is ok.

just one small problem, even if I delete/disable all alarms, the alarm icon will always display on the statu bar
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Henry He:
Hey dev.

When I first boot up to Beta 3, everything works well. But I reboot my phone for several times, I found a FC problem when I try to open "Apps & Notifications" in settings, or try to open an app's details page. How can I fix this?

Thanks for your work.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
have you tried deleting cache/dalvik in twrp? or disabling and then re-enabling the alarm icon from the status bar settings?

mh, no idea. I haven't faced this issue yet. can you send me logs of the crashes?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] huxim:
yes I tried, if clean flash is ok, maybe it's dirty flash's fault, but I can accept that:D
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
Even if dirty flash is a fast and comfortable thing, i never suggest it. Everytime i dirty flashed a rom, i always had some kind of problem (big or little, always). Just wipe cache, dalvik, data, system, but dont wipe internal storage, and youll save your files but youll have a clean environment for your rom.

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You solved a big problem that stopped tons of users not flashing this rom. Thanks :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] marios199546:
[MENTION=4063475]derf elot[/MENTION] any plans implementing f2fs ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
no plans right now. afaik, f2fs doesn't really get a whole lot of updates for 4.4 kernels anymore
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Is this battery life good enough?

Currently on beta3
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
doesn't look super to me at first glance, but i supposed you had pretty much everything enabled this whole time? (BT, GPS, etc)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Brun0ls:
Today I started having wifi drops and no signal (other phone in the same room and same service provider is maxed out)

Here is my log.

Signal may be a problem with my provider, but I don't know, maybe the log will help something

Is there any chance to make the kernel compatible with DriveDroid? I love this app, but it never worked with my XZ1, worked perfectly with my previous phones.

About the battery life: I'm OK, I get something like 3H SOT, not good not horrible... but nowhere near the 5 or 6H SOT I used to have when the phone was new and totally stock.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Yep, connected to the Bluetooth headphones the whole time with gps and wifi on

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Yep, connected to the Bluetooth headphones the whole time with gps and wifi on
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
Well, dual sim, wifi, gps, bluetooth+audio, a lot of messaging app in background and probably a good brightness, doesnt seems bad
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] JimKatsanos:
Does ims work in beta 3?:)

E.g. wifi calling etc
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] haiha2001:
You can see " Known Issue " in thread, it say " IMS does not work " but it maybe fixed soon ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] snake218:
I notice wifi speed is slow after flashing this rom, anybody else with same problem? I have 30mbps at home, speed test only show 15mb max, sometimes drop to 5-7mb when downloading. Tested with the xperia 1 and get normal results.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] huxim:
my wifi speed is ok, I can get 9MB/S from my nas
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
I can get 100mbps on my surface but only 30mbps on my XZ1 after flashing this ROM under the same network.

And under another network my friends iPhone see can get 200mbps but I can only get 60mbps
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] huxim:
here is my plan:

1.backup apps with swiftbackup

2.full backup with twrp

3.dirty flash,if everything is ok, just use it.

4.if there is any problem, clean flash and restore apps.

5.if flash fail, restore backup with twrp

after few days using, I'm still in step 3 :D
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
for WiFi speeds, at least on 2.4ghz networks, you can try to enable channel bonding and see if that helps at all.

for that you need to edit vendor/etc/wifi/WCNSS_qcom_cfg.ini (might be a good idea to backup the file first). find the line that says gChannelBondingMode5GHz=1 and above that, insert the following: gChannelBondingMode24GHz=1

save and reboot and see if it helps.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] zzzhang:
Hello, you can transplant Sony's display mode？ My English is too bad. I can only rely on translation.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
Sony display mode? what is that?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
I am having problem connecting to my carrier's network after lost signal, I have to reboot to rejoin the LTE network if I get disconnected ( I am sure there is network around as my friend can get connected using the same carrier as me
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] zimrobarov:
First of all thank you very much for keeping our device alive.

I cant connect to any of my headphones via aptx. Every time I press play bluetooth app stops working. But if I turn off hd audio profile in the settings, then it works fine.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
has this happened often? I think it happened to me once, but i didn't use the chance to grab logs because i needed my phone that time and just rebooted.

Please try the attached files. Replace the ones in /system/lib64 (make backups of them first) with the ones in the zip and reboot. I don't have an aptx device to test. thanks

edit:make sure you set permissions after replacing them (0644)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
It happens 5 times when I was in New York last weekend when taking subway
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] zzzhang:
creator mode：困惑：
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
Do you mean support ITU-R BT.2020 and 10 bit like xperia 1/5?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] zimrobarov:
After I've replaced files it works like a charm. Thank you
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
Thanks for testing. I'll include this in the next update.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] boa05:
I'm also getting the bug where I lose mobile data and have to reboot to fix it (daily). Also random apps just start crashing after a while (and have to reinstall to fix) but I did a dirty flash. Should I send logs or try it with a clean flash first?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Brun0ls:
The only serious issue for me, is that I can't use Deezer app, when it's set to save my musics to SD card. All permissions granted.

Overall, very good rom. :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] :
Hello! Sony camera don't work. You know how fix this? Thanks.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
The fixing method is under the known issue part

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Does this ROM support LTE+? I have never seen LTE+ Sign after flashing this rom
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] haiha2001:
Hey [MENTION=4063475]derf elot[/MENTION]

I think I have found a way to avoid having an empty app icon in the app drawer. After flash rom, you should turn off default web browser app ( i don't know if this step need ? ). Then you can install all app you need from CH Play. But you should remember don't install Google Chrome because Google Chrome is why a empty icon appears. I have installed Microsoft Edge first and i have avoid an empty app icon but then i have tried with Google Chrome then it appears a empty icon. I hope you have time to consider this ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
Works fine for me it seems, a + pops up next to my 4G icon when mobile data is in use.

thanks for the report. that's good news actually, because LOS in currently working on integrating the latest chromium/webview (soon after which first official 17.1 builds should roll out for official devices). so maybe that will also fix that issue.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] haiha2001:
This is screenshot after i install Microsoft Edge Web Browser App
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
I have got only 4 hours of total time when on Bluetooth playing music,also the 2nd and 3rd pic is the logcat
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Also more photos
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
Always better send the logcat file generated by the program, because it creates a zip that include every detail, dmesg etc.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
I don't know how
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
On top right side of the screen, in matlog, press on the 3 points, and press on save logcat (or a similar voice)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] boa05:
Vinyl music player can't favourite or add songs to playlist for me. Anyone else having this bug?

Edit: Sorry not the ROM's fault, the songs were on my sdcard, and that caused permission errors for Vinyl.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Karim Kahale:
Having Trouble gettng Vanced Youtube to work, after flashing vanced magisk via TWRP and of course making sure that no vanilla youtube application was installed, the Vanced YT application would not show u in drawer even tho you can find it in system/apps
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
Will try to upload a new BETA4 build soon. The issue with livedisplay (not working color profiles and picture adjuments) has been fixed. Also fixed the weirdness we have had with storage permissions for some apps, which also fixes the recorder amongst others.

Since the latter might potentially fix a lot of running issues with other apps, please recheck any issues you've had with the new build.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] arslancn:
I was facing the same issue too.

Another question:

I tried this ROM last week and after a clean flash I cant restore my WhatsApp folder(over 2.5 GB) from PC. I tried to restore by plugging with USB file transfer turned on and from TWRP. In both, Windows giving error and canceling the file transfer. Can you take a look at this [MENTION=4063475]derf elot[/MENTION]? Thanks.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Ahhhhhh can't wait!!!!!!!!
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] JimKatsanos:
How is the development going with IMS ? what exactly aren't we able to use?:)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
No progress yet, still haven't figured out what's causing the modem crashes with IMS enabled. Currently, IMS is completely disabled. I'll probably try again this weekend.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
personally, i haven't encountered this issue yet. But checking some usb related scripts is on the list of things to do.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
BETA4 is uploaded. Unfortunately, the issue with the Sony camera crashing after a new flash (and randomly working again after some time) is still not fixed. It doesn't happen to me on every flash, which makes it even more confusing.

As always, see post #3 for a changelog.

I'll upload a new TWRP version later today that should solve the failing backups issue.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Tux111:
Awesome!
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
And new TWRP is up. Enjoy those backups (I hope).
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] boa05:
I think I've found a bug: Installing MicroG is making gsf dependent apps crash, I tried both beta3 and beta4, none works, though it used to on lineage 16.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
Is microg really supposed to work without issues on Android 10 yet?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Have any idea how to make this working?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Also there seems to be some translation error ( I am sure that the toggle flash is a bug and that the camera don't need sms and contact permission
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] yuezhengbaizhi:
Also the stock camera won't open when I have viper4android installed
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] boa05:
Yes, in NanoDroid's readme they say, that it's supported except the signature spoofing patch (wich I achieved using other methods).

Though I don't personally have any other Android 10 devices, so can't verify that myself.

https://github.com/Nanolx/NanoDroid/blob/master/README.md#supported-android-versions
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] haiha2001:
[MENTION=4063475]derf elot[/MENTION]

Camera Button can use when screen was unlocked but still can't use when lockscreen , and i hope you can look for issue camera can't save pictures to SD Card ?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] ccgx:
I want to switch from the official firmware to this rom. Now my question is, what best to do, where to start.

I found this thread about backing up the DRM keys. So my question is, first backing up the keys, then unlocking the bootloader and then installing the rom like it is described on the first page. Is a DRM Backup even needed?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] sohrab1985:
You don't need TA partition (drm keys) for LOS but it's not a bad idea to back it up before unlocking the bootloader just to be sure.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] SGH-i200:
Please backup the keys before unlocking the bootloader! It doesn't take that long and the instructions are real good. Instead renoroot you can even use the new and faster temp root method now! :good:

"new very fast temp root method available for xz1c/xz1/xzp"

https://xdaforums.com/xperia-xz1-co...its-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510/post81699359
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Adi2561:
GPS Signal problems

I've recently installed the Lineage OS(one version before the newest update) on my G8341 and can't get the GPS to work. I got to know with some GPS signal detection app that my phone does see the satellites, but the signal is too weak to pick them up. I didn't have any similar issues with my stock OS, my location is northern Europe.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
Hey [MENTION=4063475]derf elot[/MENTION]

This is the same problem with mine that I reported early :)
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
I'm literally in the city center and sitting in my home :)

Phone is on the table.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Adi2561:
First off, sorry I didn't knew that the issue was already posted! Second off, I personally get next to no signal from any satellite:
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] derf elot:
We'll see if there's anything that can be done about. I'm not using microg myself and from what I gathered in the lilac thread, it hasn't really been updated in a while.

I am not sure if we will be able to implement this. Did this work on 16.0? If so, it might very well be that Android 10 is blocking this now, but I have to check.

Still haven't had the time to look into viper4android, but I don't quite understand how it can cause the camera to stop working. Sure it isn't just the same bug we have when flashing a new version of the ROM? (logcat should show a null pointer exception of art).

Checked mine, and for me the permissions are named correctly. So no idea what's going on there.

No, I haven't looked into this yet. Still not sure if it's a gapps or rom issue.

GPS could definitely use some love, like updating the whole stack. Thing is, the Sony stock rom contains some blobs that depend on (iirc) the 1.1 gnss hal. Qcom later and for further updates downgraded the version number to 1.0 again which is causing issues for us. So Sony used a Qcom tag which temporarily happened to use the 1.1 hal. We can either fix this by hacking the blobs or switching to a gps stack from a different device entirely (and building as much as possible from source), but it needs some work.

That being said, when outside (I've never gotten good signal when in the house) I still get a fix within a matter of 5-10 seconds.

That picture you posted from from inside a building? In that case it's pretty good i think.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] kaancaliskan:
On outside, no difference. Also when travelling like going one city to another, can't connect but on stock, i was able to connect (same route).

Also my home is at a roof floor.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Adi2561:
Oh well then I got no luck. For me it's pretty rare to be in a medium range of any satellite, GPS just refuses to work at all.
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] WalterCool:
Hey derf elot, do you have some donation place? Hope not Paypal, as they hates me. lol
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] Raouldt:
Awesome! The storage permission issues are solved. Works like a charm. This also seems to have fixed the Prime Video playback issues.

Only issue I keep having is the crash/reboot after going from fullscreen video (only in Netflix and Prime Video), straight to Android home screen. Somehow I can't get the logcat (there seems to be an issue with the root permission). Anybody else experiencing the same issue with video playback, that is able to create a log? :)

And indeed, is there a way to donate?
[Sony Xperia XZ1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Othe] JimKatsanos:
Ouuuu does viper work?:)