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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
Because pixel 5 has way more tech in and and they need the room for the components. 4a is a mid-range phone.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dhacke:
We will see it when it's released:cowboy:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
And you'll see what bitwiser says
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dhacke:
Ok.

Other possibility: The usb c from the pixel 5 can talk to analog music devices as AV receivers. For example my old xperia XZ2 can do this (it has usb c too) and i use it as music source to send my music over a adapter to my receiver. Then i would be totally happy with usb c.

The pixel 4 xl doesn't talk with the mentioned devices because it seems that it can't send analog signals. So i guess i will buy me a high quality digital to analog converter:D

Same with my high quality beyerdynamic headset. Doesn't work on my pixel 4 xl.

I know espiacally by music i'm a "oldie" regarding my preferences:D

But i want to avoid more off-topic so i think i will stop here:)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Oxuboxu:
You are not an "oldie".

Some people have a good auditory ability and high requirements for sound quality. They needs for lossless audio files and very capable hardware to use for.

If the Pixel 5 possesses HiFi QuadDAC, you will not needed to buy additional DAC for your "Bayerdinamic" headset.

With lack of an audio jack , we will loosing an High End HiFi possibility of hearing an audiophilic music.

Listening a music trough bluetooth is a pain for fastidious, rigorous, strict, choosey and exacting people.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
The real reason for losing the SD card is not space inside the case, it's to try and drive users to online storage. It is what it is and I'm not going to beg for something the scumbag corporate boy wonders are not going to give me so that they can keep on eating caviar on the corporate transport but I'm not going to pretend it's in my interest either.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghisy:
I don't know if Google still cares but I'd really want an updated Pixel 2 XL:

- bigger QHD screen (6.5" or more) at 90 or 120 Hz

- latest Snapdragon (and not the previous gen)

- at least 8 GB of RAM

- front-facing stereo speakers

- 3 cameras on the back (regular, wide, telephoto)

- physical fingerprint reader on the back

- I don't mind if it has small bezels at the top/bottom so project Soli sensors are OK

- LED notification

- a bigger battery (at least 4500 mAh).

Oh and stop f**ing with Android with stupid limitations (scoped storage for example).

Is that too much to ask Google?!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dhacke:
Thank the app devs which uses the current storage system of Android for tracking. Google only wants to stop that.

I like scoped storage because i care about privacy which is been heavily under shooting nowadays.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
How am I brave? My wife might look at my phone while I'm sleeping??? And it has never been a security risk because if I want to turn it off and not have face unlock enabled I just long press power to turn it off, then code must be entered. I don't have government secrets on my phone :P I'm still laughing at people that can't use it because it is unsafe when I bet some use "password" or 1111 as their passwords LOL
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dhacke:
Ok in that case you're a not a brave person:D

At some point you're are right: If it's not enabled or connected to a additional code then of course it wasn't security risk. But do you really think the average user did this? I'm don't think so.

The main problem was that the face unlock could be unlocked with closed eyes.

See this:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateof...lawed-face-unlock-creates-an-apple-advantage/

For me this was a security risk because any person could unlock the phone while the owner sleeps. Idk whether it is fixed now so that the reason for my question.

And i agree to you regarding password. "password" or "1111" aren't the best choices:D

Somehow funny that they are still so much in use.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Only if you sleep on your back, sleep soundly, and sleep in a place where you shouldn't be sleeping anyway.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
If you're concerned about someone looking through your phone when your sleeping then you should really consider who you like to he around lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] eg1122:
There are many scenarios where a person will fall asleep around people they don't know. How about on a plane, train, bus? What if this person travels a lot and has long lay overs and sleeps at the airport? Just because you don't find this to be an issue doesn't mean others don't. You don't know this person, you don't know their needs, you don't know their situation. So if you have nothing positive to offer this person, why post at all?

As far as what I would like to see...

Bigger or better battery

Rear fingerprint sensor (probably won't happen)

Fix face unlock (so everyone can be happy)

More gesture controls for soli and/or open it up to app developers

Pixel Launcher with more built in options such as custom icon support

More storage options maybe start at 128gb and go up to 512gb
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
Turn phone off and back on if you want to sleep as face unlock won't work, simple solution

Hardly think someone is going to take phone out your pocket while you sleep in a public area and unlock it, come on be realistic

Your post was hardly positive either so same question to you
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] eg1122:
Not really, that person might be using the phone as an alarm, waiting on a phone call. Like I said you (myself included) don't know that person's needs or situation, they could be other ways they rely on the device being on while they sleep. The simple solution is to either not use face unlock or get it fixed. For some face unlock might be the selling point for this device so in my opinion it's just better to fix it.

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Positive aspect of my post, trying to make other people understand there are other people out there that don't think like you. Have an open mind, be thoughtful of others, help where you can.

What makes you think this person will have the phone in a pocket? It could be in a handbag or backpack. Could be in a coat pocket that they are not wearing at the moment. Like I said, we don't know their situation. But enough out of content posts...what would you like to see on the P5?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dhacke:
I guess the face unlock users who did this was very small:D

That doesn't make it really better. Google should have think about this before the release of the pixel 4/xl last year.

I stay at the opinion that Google gets blamed for it right. As [MENTION=2067958]eg1122[/MENTION] said in some scenarios it can be a problem.

Whether it matters for you personally is of course a different thing.

But we going away from the thread topic. So let's go back to P5 as eg1122 says:)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] eg1122:
This is my last OT post but I just wanted to try to help you and others in your predicament. If you want to use face unlock but are worried someone might be able to unlock your phone while you sleep there is a way to ease your mind.

Go to Settings -> Display -> Advanced -> Lockscreen Display and toggle Show Lockdown option.

This will enable the Lockdown function on your power menu and selecting it will require a password/pin/pattern next time you unlock it.

So anytime you might end up sleeping somewhere in public just select that option before going to sleep
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
I keep my phone in my front pants pocket. No one's sneaking that out of there without me knowing unless I'm unconscious. [emoji23]
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghisy:
I forgot this in my list! 128 GB should be the absolute

minimum

for storage!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
No, the phone shouldn't unlock without seeing open eyes, I fully agree with that. Realistically it's not going to come up much and on the often used airplane example you can just turn the phone off as you're presumably not going to be using the phone while sleeping. The rest of the stuff like someone knocking you unconscious and holding the phone to your face is silly. Anyone can as easily take your equally unconscious finger and swipe a reader but no one ever complained about phone with fingerprint readers unlocking before checking to see if your eyes were open. I mean if we're talking about armed hooligans couldn't they just tell the unfortunate phone owner to unlock it before he/she does become unconscious in the aftermath of gaining some new broken bones?

Yeah, I'm having a little fun with it but those things are true and they do highlight just how silly people have been about having the eyes open for the face ID to work. They're not wrong complaining about it being a flaw but blowing it up into something huge is silly. No phone has security that was designed to withstand determined thugs, sovereign nations, etc.

I would also say it would seem like an entity with Alphabet levels of software design ought to have been able to sort out the eyes open gaff and get a patch out by now. I'm not giving them a pass on that; 3 months later is not timely even when regarding what I would consider a minor security flaw.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kickenwing13:
Ideally not a mid range chip... Can't help but feel like they are giving up with this Moto G competitor they are creating in real life.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Bwyan Benton:
I agree. If it comes with a mid range chip, I'll skip it and keep my 4XL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrjaydee82:
I probably will finally cross to Samsung..I have an iPhone 11 pro for work but I still need Android in my life always. I've been a fan since g1 where it all began..my 1st was the moto Droid og and them sold and got a gnex from Best buy lol...I've had every Google phone except the g3..to all the pixels..I might be done after the P4XL
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Oxuboxu:
Don't dive on Samsung blindly.

Research better before this.

There's a many problems at S20 line pop-uped to this moment.

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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sruel3216:
I had all those phones too. After 2xl I went to note 9 then s10 and now back on pixel 4. Just something about pixel software I love the most
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
I've been in and out of the Pixel and Nexus line many times, the better hardware always beckons and I'm a phone sulut so off I go. I always come back though, it's just a matter of time. Lately it's been a journey to a series of OnePlus devices and what they're doing over there is trying to get their really speedy phone to do what a Pixel can do; it's the largest single mod category on those forums, trying to get the Pixel experience. This time I didn't bit on the 7Pro and I'm not going after the 8Pro either, I've been there too many times. I buy the phone, love the hardware, spend two months trying to turn it into a Pixel, get rid of it. I'm off that treadmill, enough is enough. Google isn't wrong about the importance of the software experience. It matters.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sruel3216:
Yeah I had a 6t for a bit and it just didn't feel like a pixel.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kickenwing13:
At some point in your life I would say at least attempt to try out the OnePlus. It used to be the closest thing to the Nexus. It's what the Pixel should have been.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Oxuboxu:
Yes.

If he doubts about One+ , He may also look at LG V60. It has a great battery life, that no one flagship phone has.

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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kickenwing13:
At some point in your life I would say at least attempt to try out the OnePlus. It used to be the closest thing to the Nexus. It's what the Pixel should have been.

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After one of my students broke my 2xl I bought a g6 because it's all I could afford. Lot of things I liked, but got that skin... V series is intriguing, they just need a design refresh and lighter skin with all the features they have
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Oxuboxu:
From G7 and V30, LG have great phones with very good possibilities, good and enough updates. Sometimes slower than others, but made without any bugs and with no problems like Samsung.

My friends with S20 Ultra are very disappointed, they have camera bugs and very serious battery problems. Big battery, but with very low SOT. It's a shame for Samsung to make phone firmware like beta version.

The Xiaomi soft is similar, even worst. They provide almost every week or month updates like patches. But it brings more new problems and bugs. Their soft is like alpa soft.

LG hasn't such problems. Their firmware is enough tested, without bugs. It works smooth and flawlessly. The new models has a great SOT . They have many new features, and great capabilities.

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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MrMeeseeks:
The mid tier processor is a let down for a flagship phone. I was planning on skipping this year's release anyway but if Google continues that trend, I might have to consider other options unless the price is very reasonable.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Agreed. Now instead of offering an overpriced flagship it seems their plan is to offer an overpriced upper mid ranger. Not getting the logic there; all they had to do was up a few of the specs on the 4/4XL, put in a bigger battery, include the wide angle, and they sell them no problem and make money doing it at the pricing they were using. A lot of people think it's because they're trying to sell you software that makes up for the hardware and I think they're right to some extent but there is more to it. Phones are a long term strategy for Google and they're a servant to their core business; gathering data and serving ads. Sundar himself said in a very recent interview that phones are not at all like the other road kill Google has left in their wake, they are in it for the long haul and are in no circumstances getting out. While he didn't elaborate on exactly what that strategy was you can figure the chipset they're developing is a part of it. It will be interesting to see what comes of that in 21 if it actually makes it.

Meanwhile I see nothing that makes me want to make a move and I'm sad to report that the early take on the 5 is included in that nothing. :(
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ICEMAN_SID:
I think if google can really excel in departments like Battery, screen, and video recording they will do away with most of their shortcomings. Yes it might not be the fastest but, it can still be a better package than their previous phones as they were getting beat against flagships on these 3 points quiet clearly. With 100$ less than other flagships they might get a edge for users who want great camera and software experience. But, they very badly improve on all these parts. Also, this time they need to sell it in all countries to have some sort of success.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] itiskonrad:
$700 for the lowest model of a mid-tier phone? Hard pass. If they don't come out with a model with a flagship processor, I'm jumping the Pixel ship.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrnovanova:
For some reason Google has yet to deliver on their promise. They were in a very good position to become THE Android reference and somehow they failed. Having control over the hardware and the software should definitely have given them some kind of advantage but they keep coming up with a**backwards business strategies RIP Nexus. Anyway I still have my Pixel 4XL as a backup phone but I can't get a full days battery out of it and I think that's really the biggest shortcoming on that phone that and the omission of an Ultra wide camera lens.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Personally outside of a few test shots to check it out I never use my wides. It still should have been in this phone though because it's par and you gotta make par and then bring a little something If you want to walk with the big dogs. They could have sold the software as that little something beyond par, they didn't have to go Samsung on the 100X or some other excesses in pushing the hardware envelope. All they had to do was make par and the software would have been that little extra. But NOOOO! lol

Seriously though, while Sundar was preaching the long haul sermon people were also getting canned. It would be too late for their replacements to do much with the P5 but P6 coming in 21, possible new cpu, new leadership, maybe we have some hope for that one. Maybe...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] arsenal74:
Totally agree, they have had an open goal for the last 3 years and missed it IMO. I always assumed they were walking a fine line between making the Pixel a success whilst not p*ssing off all the other manufacturers.

If they go mid-range then I'll probably be done.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
For what the phone will be built for a mid range model makes sense for P5. No point chasing numbers for the sake of it like the rest are.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] arsenal74:
I have no problem with a mid-range processor as I am not a gamer. My issue is that when a phone goes mid-range they usually cut other corners too, so the build, screen, camera and things like wireless charging and storage often also take a hit.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 100rabh7791:
Hopefully not this time. I think that's the whole point of going mid range but let's c!

I'd want a good battery life, smooth perhaps, top notch camera and screen and few other stuff mainly the essentials.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] arsenal74:
I do fear they might use it as justification for sticking with the same main sensor yet again and relying on their special sauce. Don't get me wrong the Pixel 4 is still (IMO) the best camera out there on Android, it is just not the total slam dunk it once was and another year of Samsung et-al throwing new hardware at the problem could see the Pixel slip back. Let's not forget too that their computational smarts are all based on this sensor so they might favour using it again.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AnuarBolis:
totally agree, Google needs to take care of early adopters
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Mackay53:
But they do. There's always something free with it and for the 4xl it was a Chromebook for me. You could sell it easy and consider it a discount
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] AnuarBolis:
oh, i didn't know they gave out Chromebooks, I will keep an eye next time
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 100rabh7791:
I don't see any harm in that. Only they should add a wide angle lens and maybe increase the lossless zoom by 5x and yeah i definitely hope they upgrade the front cam! It's been 8mp since ages
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pj1980:
600+ nits of brightness!

higher capacity battery

A good built in EQ or better quality sound for the speaker
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
I'd really like to have the following:

A fingerprint sensor.

A much larger battery. Especially on the smaller one. I have a Pixel 2 XL and I only got it over the Pixel 2 because of the battery. I really miss having a somewhat more manageable sized phone. 4500mAh+ on the XL and 3800mAh+ on the smaller one.

A flagship level processor. None of this low end SD 765/768 crap. I'm not going to take a performance downgrade over my Pixel 2 XL.

A bezel that's just big enough to not need a notch or hole punch but not any bigger.

A metal back like my Pixel 2 XL. I don't like the glass (especially glossy) or plastic backs and I care nothing about wireless charging. I'll never use it again. I already learned that lesson.

That's pretty much it. The rest can just be the standard Pixel level stuff like great camera, etc.

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I'm not very optimistic that the ability to login to apps with face unlock will be widely available for the Pixel 5. The new biometric APIs came out with Android 9 almost two years ago and still hardly any apps support it even now. I doubt much will change in the next 5 months. I currently have 6 apps that I login using my fingerprint on my Pixel 2 XL. None of those 6 support face unlock on the Pixel 4.

Also, face unlock sucks but that's a different issue.

The battery is fine for you? Really? You are lucky. The battery is the main reason I didn't get the Pixel 4. The XL would have been fine for like 75% of days but I just didn't feel like carrying a bulky battery and cable in my pocket the other 25% of the time.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] asdarkknight:
thats a list google should see it and consider it!!!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MrMeeseeks:
You all can keep your dirty fingerprint scanners. I like Face Unlock. If only it was implemented in more than 8 apps....
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ticky00:
better night-mode camera ;)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitpushr:
Better battery life, definitely!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] zujko:
Better battery life, huge camera sensor (1 1/3") 6", and that it is ergonomic in the hand:)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
It seems rumor has it there will be no XL variant. It's like google is trying to kill their hardware...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MrMeeseeks:
And Google's lost me since it seems they are ditching Face Unlock. At least I have a year or so, since I didn't plan on upgrading this year, to decide where to go next.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] marinosms:
Or the 5 is going to be the XL variant and they are just ditching the small version considering that the regular pixels sold a lot less compared to their xl variants.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
They ditched the XL with the 4a and the word is quite specific in that the larger variant of the 5 has been nixed. We'll see... I'm thinking I'm out of the Pixel line for this next round. Not feeling the love for any portion of the 5 leaks and unfortunately for the most part they end up being true nowadays.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] marinosms:
Thats unfortunate then. Personally, having the 4 xl I wont be changing anytime soon so I will wait and see what will happen with the 6 or even the 7.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MrMeeseeks:
I don't understand Google. They had the ability to give us a great phone but they have pretty much failed in every generation. This year's lineup is horrendous. Almost like they aren't trying or want to convert everyone to the iPhone, which I'm considering now.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dave5777:
FP sensor!!!! Face only sucks when wearing a mask all the time...