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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RedSplat:
Hi folks, ( first post )

I'm running Opera 9.5 Build 1184 on my HTC Diamond right now and was trying to install the latest build, (1660 VGA).

When i run the CAB it tells me it'll need to uninstall the old version of Opera, and i click 'OK'.

Next thing it tells me is that it cannot be uninstalled, but i can choose to go through with installation.

Now, i did not risk proceeding, fearing it might seriously mess up my browser.

My question is, how to install this new version?

Am i forced to do it manual? :(

Or can i just ignore the old version and overwrite it? :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
:D:D SD CARD:D:D:, sorry this is so funny Diamond has no SD Card. Is this a joke or what ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
bla bla bla

Notifiaction bug makes this official beta unusable for any phone. SIP worked on my phone with all versions before, i forget the memory bugs users have. And flash has been disabled, but WHY ?`

If browsing was disabled, you would even find that okay ?

So if you really think this beta is good, use it, thats your problem because you r the only one then ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Jin187:
Ignore it and install, it worked fine for me, i'm using it now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] burgertime:
External Keyboard is also not working on my Mogul.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DAP420:
NOPE!!! The start page appeared but that's it! I can't get pass the start up screen. The reason why I stopped using the 1718 build is because every like five seconds the Memory box would pop up even with 1 tab open, and clearded cache and history. My phone has sucky memory so I can't use the Main version I need the SD version.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jwy2k2:
A minor point but confusing nonetheless:

doesn't "uninstallable" mean "not able to install"

Don't you mean simply "removable"? I was a bit confused at first. No big deal, just constructive criticism. :)

Thanks for all the great posts!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ralpheboyo:
works like a charm

.....running nice and smooth on my sys.....thxs:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zephxiii:
I'm just curious as i have never tried, but how do you get flash to work?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gp-se:
Install Flash for PPC

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_pocketpc/downloads/player.html
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] burgertime:
I agree this confused me at first too.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
some question about flash:

1. flashplayer 7 is only for windows mobile 2003 and 5 ?

2. I remember on of the last version where i could watch mobile youtube side videos that where played with the windows stremaing media , but cant remember ? Are this videos on the mobile youtube side also flash or something else ?l

3. So what to do, isntall this flash 7, wait if there will ever come opera with flash integrated, or will this never come or what ? :confused:

Thanks for answers,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mattcoz:
that would be "non-installable", "uninstallable" means you can uninstall it
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
installed flashplayer7, doesnt work with opera 1660. Nice tip ;)

okay, again: Does anyone looks youtube video on his ppc and with what software/browsher/flashversion ???? (I know there is a standalone app here, but i mean buildin the browser?). Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gp-se:
you can install flashplayer 7 on WM6 no problem, also to watch youtube videos with Windows media go here

http://m.youtube.com - Windows Media

http://www.youtube.com - Flash
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
okay, installing was no problem but both youtube sides dont work :

1. m.youtube links the videos to streaming mediaplayer but i get an error

2. youtube.com says i have an old version/wrong version of flash installed

opera 9.5 build 1660; orbit2/touchcruise original ROM 6.0 :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Agamemmnon:
I can play youtube videos without problem on orbit 2 with Opera, but i have the version 9.5.1522 and flash lite 2.1 installed.

With coreplayer v1.2.5.4506, i can also watch fine youtube videos and with the TCPMP Player v0.72RC1 too.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yrsmart:
are people still having the hardware keyboard issue or previous builds?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dogosyfe764:
this build seems to be great, i use vodafone wap connection 3G (SFR Illimythics) and i can't have any connection, a solution ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] b16daddy:
yeah.. uninstall flash player.. thats whats causing the keyboard pop up every tim eyou visit a site with flash images..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] EnsconcE:
I do not have the flash player installed. Besides that; it happens when i select a textfield, not when if visit a flash site.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] smithi:
hi, is it possible to make an storage card version for german devices (storagecard=speicherkarte)

many thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] phouki:
Are there any spaces in speicherkarte?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KamaL:
I just tried the SD version on my trinity (Wm6.1 FInixNOver3.4), but I can't seem to connect to any site, using either WiFi or a WAP connection. previous builds on main memory worked fine.

Also, the Settings menu isn't working at all. It seems to direct to the original file in the main memory's windows directory.

Any idea??:confused:

Thanks for the effort :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] phouki:
Uploading fixed version. Or you can cut and paste the settings folder to Windows\Opera9
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wearefree:
Great! I too have the no connection problem on wifi using the original sd version. Anxiously waiting...

BTW, besides able to handle secure sites better (not going thru opera's server) and a few scripted pages, what's the advantage over opera mini 4.1?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tylr:
Great version... no issues at all and working great. Best version so far.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KamaL:
Tried the updated version, the settings page is ok now, and it was working before as u said by copying it to the windows directory.

BUT, there is still no connection at all..I have no clue why this is happening. Might be a setting regarding the cache folder. It's simpl unusable right now.

thanks :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wearefree:
Same here; no connection whatsoever on wifi. Internet connection is good with opera mini and pointui though. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] speedblaster@yahoo.com:
great job man, i just stumbled upon this version of Opera like 5 minutes ago, but this one is SD card compatible sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.:D:D:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ThatGuy16:
Thanks. But i have one question, is there something i need to download for this to work on certain sites?

MySpace and the full version of Youtube always crashes the browser :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tadevinney:
Same here. Nothing with Wifi (only connection available at home). Using T-Mobile Wing openTouch5.0ul wm6.1 . Not sure if there is anything to change. using the opera version on sd card with the latest fix (as of today at 530pm)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] badaas:
try soft reset, worked for me :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] smithi:
no there are not spaces in Speicherkarte, thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] matt92:
I'm in France on SFR Network. The trouble is due to the User Agent of the last build (1184). You can change it by typing opera:config -> Selecting User Prefs, Custom User-Agent, and entering the following one : "HTC P_3700 Opera/9.50(Windows NT 5.1; U; en). That was the default UA with the 1126 build.

It works perfectly for me, with Opera 9.5 build 1184 on LG KS20.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] simonte:
is there any option to open new tabs in backround?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kramerica2:
What flash version would work with Opera 9.5?

Many web pages have flash logos or ads, and in any other browser, i never had problems with it, no matter what kind of flash I was using. In Opera 9.5, if I use Flash Lite 2.1, I get an error message instead of the logos or ads, and if I use Flash Player 7, Opera crashes every time a Flash ad is about to be shown.

It's really annonying, what can I do?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] resist:
To those with hardware KB's

To those of you asking about why the hardware KB doesn't work...take a step back for a moment. This is not a bug. Except for the official beta, these are Diamond builds. Diamond has no hardware KB. if you must have hardware KB support, you will most likely need to use the official beta which has other more pressing issues imo (see first post). Take your pick...forgo hardware KB or always go back and reset your sound profiles after each opera use.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything...just stating the obvious in hopes that people will stop posting this question repeatedly while other legit questions get overshadowed
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] webPragmatist:
Are you talking about the switching to and out of landscape when exiting the application?

In general my 1660 version does weird stuff.. like turning the screen upside down.

I tried the latest beta and it hadthe same problems + the notification resetting...

These seem like such obvious bugs to fix :/

Is there somewhere official to report issues?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yrsmart:
No, the keyboard not working. And to resist I have thought of that, but many of us, like me, actually had our hardware keyboard working on a previous build with out an issue.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] intellax:
My hardware keyboard works with 1660 SD install... Samsung SCH-i760... /shrug

The only behavior that I don't like is that when a text field is selected the windows keyboard pops up and then it reverts to full screen after about 2 seconds, pulling the cursor out of the text field. Slightly annoying but easily enough dealt with since my hardware keyboard does work. Turning off automatic full screen also solves it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trenwei:
yeah, i have the landscape bug...when you exit it turns it upside down.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mike21pr:
does this come with flash built in??? cuz i installed flash player 7, and flash lite 2.1 in different occasions and i dont see any diference.... youtube looks the same and in other sites i dont see any different behavior when it comes to flash
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] resist:
If by previous build, you mean the official beta then yes, it will work. Other builds work for a few key presses only before going to full screen mode (like someone mentioned a few posts back). It's been like this in every Opera diamond build thus far if I am correct (I believe I have tried all but one as they've been released and all had the same behaviour aside from the official beta). If it was not the official beta where you had it working, please let me know which as I would glady revert if there are no other major issues.

To others with the "reverse landscape" issue. I also believe this is a product of the diamond. I believe the diamond landscapes in the opposite direction of some devices such as the Kaiser(but am not positive on this one).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mrtnld:
Sound settings lost with Opera v9.5.1 Build 1718 Beta

I have wonder for some time, why my sound setting changed daily.

Then, by luck, I found out that Opera changes these settings.

I use an Eten Glofiish M700 and installed the SD-card edition of Opera.

Sound setting as Reminder, "New text message" and "Connection established" i lost.

I always have "Connection established" to play a sound a vibrate, to know when I use money on data traffic.

If possible, please correct this problem
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yrsmart:
No, not the official beta, I had build 1184 installed and everything worked fine, except it was a little slow(and some flash pages didn't work right). Newer builds were faster, but keyboard did not work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yrsmart:
Damn man. I just installed this version and I have yet to see a issue. My hardware keyboard is working with Opera again. So far this is the fastest, most stable build. I cant wait to see what the final is if the builds are that good and getting better.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ill_dawg:
Just a couple of workarounds I have found for the common bugs in older (non-official) builds of opera:

Keyboard bugs: if it keeps kicking you out of the text field, open up the on-screen symbol pad from the hardware KB. This tricks opera into thinking that you are still using the onscreen KB and still lets you type with the hardware KB. It's a bit annoying to lose screen real estate to the thing, but it gets the job done.

Rotation bug: put the screen back in portrait mode before you close opera. after it exits, your screen will not rotate.

These are just workarounds, but they have worked for me.

-=ADAM=-
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] w04g005:
The new build 1660 is not working on my Polaris!! It loads about 1 minute and then........nothing!!!

Anyone have the same experience?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
1660 is working on my polaris.

anyone knows where in the confiq to set the side to which the screen rotates in Landscape, because mine goes to the wrong side ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] contextus:
I installed flash 7...Now I can see flash in every web site but opera open and close the keyboard continually!!!!! I can't use it!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Elis:
VGA Build 1660 SD, it does not work, settles in the SD but it does not work.:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] foo:
Has anybody tried to play around with all these settings showing up when typing "opera:config" in the address bar?

There is interesting stuff there like "Turbo Mode", "Smooth scrolling", "Special Effects" ...

I wonder what all this stuff does actually cause.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Dr J:
my experience -

installed on SD on T-Mobile UK MDA Touch

1660 is running better and is much more stable than the official beta, in which finger scrolling is jerky, i can only use default wm keyboard and the "out of memory" message constantly appears. making it pretty much unusable.

however, i can only really browse any pages with my WiFi activated and connected to my home network, the progress bar just sits about 10% when trying to connect over GPRS. so it's only of any use at home...

hmmm.

great software though, just looking forward to being able to make use of it...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] soterisk:
this is the best version i test!!!

tnx!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atropo:
Is it possible that opera 9.5 beta remove all notification settings?.

Ths bye.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nazz31:
No flash

Hello,

I don't know why, flash doesn't seem to work.

I have a wizard, i installed the build 1660 on the sd card and i also

installed ffp7 and flash-lite 2.1.

The plugin path seems to be \windows\Opera9\plugins\

so i copy flash.dll and/or flashlite.dll in this directory but nothing happened.

I tried tu put these files in \Storage Card\Program Files\Opera9\plugins. nothing.

When i try "opera: plugins" , it shows "None found".

Is it because i installed it on the SD card ?

where is your flash.dll file ?

Is there any solution ?

Thx
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
yes the official beta does this, but there are hundreds of posts here about this this Problem and also the bug is descripted on post 1, so just reading would have helped you, the ripped Diamond versions dont have this bug.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atropo:
Ths a lot, j saw them after, excuse me for stupid request.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] brian1972ct:
Thanks Ill_dawg, that symbol pad workaround works on my Tilt. I can use the keyboard now, but I did lose real estate as you mentioned.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yrsmart:
So, I noticed on my WM61. device that some flas pages work but other don't. One in particular is youtuibe. It does not work. However, youtube mobile works, but it opens up the file in windows media player. How do I fix this so I can view the normal youtube page, and how do I set it to open up in TCPMP(note TCPMP is set up as the defuialt player for all media files)? Thanks. This still the best build yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freexdalogin:
anyone else notice flick scrolling is kind of slow and weak. Any way to fix this?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tiramusi:
For all i can say till now: BUGGY! But beaaauuutiful!

In my opinion Opera 9 will be much better than the V8 when its done... and yeah, when its done, not a second earlier.

It runs like hell on my wizard, you can scroll smoothly on a 800x600 optimized webpage and it "feels" good.

But the hardware-keyboard bug makes me crazy.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lorgem:
I'm still using Opra 9.5 Build 1123 worked perfectly.

On the latest Build: Is the Keyboard POP bug fixed???
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tiramusi:
Just tried the 1718 Beta. With 1660 Beta i couldt type more than 1 letter with hardware keyboard, no see of that with 1718 (on my device).

But i still cant get that fu***** page (some webchat) to work i try.

I always get a connection error for some frames.

Minimo doesnt do it (ENTER does'nt send the form)... pocket IE does'nt... skybox does'nt... drives me crazy.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jambaj0e:
Try using the newest Netfront 3.5. I'm still contemplating whether to keep Opera 9 build 1660 or go back to netfront. Opera 9 has some serious memory issues
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] aa125690:
No. As what I know, this bug hasn't been fixed. The software keyboard still pop out if there is Flash animation.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tiramusi:
I already installed it 5mins ago, going to try it now.

Lets hope they fix those bugs in opera, visually its already the best browser i can imagine. Also the "double-tap to overview/zoom" function is kinda NICE! So i can also use not-mobilephone-optimized pages very well!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] amex166:
i wish sumone wud clear thid for me...

does the htc touch diamond have choppy flash playback

with 9.5 [stock version not user installed]also does

it also have memory leaks and terminates forcefully

while browsing,i knw diamond has huge ram bt still has

anyone encountered this??
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Agamemmnon:
Works like a charm

I installed the 9.5.1660 and all works fine, i can´t find any bug:D

Keyboard works (all Sips),Youtube works,flash works,very fast,very smooth...

the good is now I have gained additional memory 6mb!

WOW!!!,how many settings here you can make here,cool!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dicast:
How do you get flash to works? I'm running it on my touch and so far...still no luck
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] contextus:
even I have a htc polaris...how can I see youtube videos and work flash? which program did you install?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lorgem:
Great! How you managed to fix the POP UP keyboard???

I'm not impressed by the new build. What i want is to fixed the BUGS...I don't mind using the OLD build as long the bug exterminated :)

Anybody? Anyone? BUG's Buster make the BUG's go awayyyyy :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Agamemmnon:
First, I had flash lite v2.1 it works also, but i uninstall it and now i have flash 7 from Adobes Page.

I don´t now why is working, i have installed the newest build of Coreplayer and the Tcpmp Player with TCPMPflvplugin and FlashVideoBundle.Youtube plays everywhere.

With the keyboard I never had problems.

Edit: Flash works only with version 7 plugin,Sites with flash 8 or 9 don´t work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
ah , so youtube works just with coreplayer or tcpmp ?

but it doesn`t it work on any youtube side

in the browser ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Agamemmnon:
of course in the Browser works also, sample: http://m.youtube.com with the streaming Media.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chrisd1a1:
what network you on mate?

same device but streaming media always fails to connect for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Agamemmnon:
Befor Soft-Reset i have the same Problem (fail to connect) , but after a Soft-Reset i test it with WiFi, GPRS and 3G and all 3 works fine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Bjd223:
Thanks for the hint about the Symbol Pad, not sure this will work for you, but if I set the Symbol Pad as my input device, and then minimize it (so I can see the full screen) the Hardware keyboard still works fine whether it is on the screen or not. I wish you could configure it to use the symbol pad in landscape mode somehow so I don't have to switch. Maybe in opera:config.

This only works in fullscreen mode, if you are not in full screen mode the symbol pad space is still used whether it is minimized or not.

Anyway I am using 1660 with a Kaiser.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Nighthawk9100:
I have a problem using opera 9.5 build 1660 and other builds. The normal version works but the version for storage card installation only installs and after i launch it crashes or shut the program. I have a HTC Touch NLD with the official rom. What can be the problem of this?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bluemetalaxe:
m.youtube is not working with my german orbit2/touchchruise an streaming media (did some softresets): "netzwerk konnte nicht gefunden werden".

=network couldnt be found.

maybe a problem of build 1660 ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tiramusi:
Same on my side with several other websides... but just several frames... :S
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] galenmd:
What an awesome fix!

Opera is now usable for me. I will never go back!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Agamemmnon:
I have also a german Orbit 2 (O2) and the build 1660 and it works with Streaming Media fine, WiFi,GPRS and 3G also:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] V@no:
Does anyone have this issue, if you run a few programs on background (Windows Live Messenger and audio player in my case), about 20mb free memory left. Then by just starting Opera it forcibly quits one or all other programs? This would be explained by not enough RAM, but after opening Opera free memory doesn't drop below 15mb (before opened a web page).

Very annoying.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pcforce:
I'm using LG's (KS20) systray menu and after installation of Opera 9.5 build 1600 i can no longer use the IE icon to launch IE from systray. Maybe the problem is there Opera is automatically set as default browser? How to fix it and still have both browsers while IE is default system browser.