yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Bugs?

Thank you for posting the beta.

kareem9nb is under the impression that there is a public thread out there which discusses any bugs which may be left. I am fairly certain he is wrong, but since he is a mod and I am not, so be it.

Would you be willing to share with us any knowledge of any bugs which may be outstanding in the beta (which kept it from being final)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
ok

ok, well you both are right and wrong, hes right far as you shouldnt have started a new thread, but wrong as to there is no open thread for this rom. there is a closed thread for beta tester signup and thats prob what he was thinking of. there are no bugs that i have found that would cause the rom not to be an every day rom! only small bugs like in the phone settings there are some tabs missing for other settings, and to be honest thats all that i could really find. the rom itself in my opinion is more of a final than a beta due to the lack there off bugs. the rom as you all have noticed is fast and stable, i used hard spl 3.56 to flash this rom, so i do recomend that spl alltho 3.29 will prob work just fine. i ran the stock at&t radio at first with this rom then i switched to one of the emo radios, both of which worked just fine.

if you use and like this rom please pm shogunmark and thank him for his wonderful rom, please!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Thanks

Thanks for your reply. I will keep an eye out for people flagging issues, although I do remain dismayed that he took it upon himself to close the only on-topic thread. He will be fairly busy closing Death v5 threads because it is probably not reasonable to expect people to poke around the Death v4 thread looking for info on v5.

But thank you VERY much for answering the question!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
i toyed with the thought of posting it on its own new thread but changed my mind because i feel that if shogun wanted it he would have started a new thread. all he told me i could do is share the rom with others and to be sure you all knew to give him credit for his work. so i posted it in this V4 thread beause it has been his only busy thread. if one of the mods wants to do shogun up a new thread for it that would be great!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
Probably makes little sense to start a thread for an unsupported and beta rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Of course it does

You are absolutely right, which is why I tried to do it. Putting aside your valid statement (which was also my feeling) that people will not be going to an 8+ month old thread with the wrong version number, there is also a reality that a 500 post thread is not useful even if it is on point.

There is no one who will dig through a series of posts this long even if it the topic was on point.

Oh well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
Perhaps shogunmark can edit his first post to say this thread now includes beta rom 5 in post # ???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
(sigh)

Even if people knew to look here, it's still too deep. There is an unfortunate chasm between mods and help seekers. Yes, there are too many people who start improper threads, or ask questions without searching BUT those threads (if people respond with an answer instead of a flame) are FAR more useful than 500+ post threads.

I have read every post in this thread because I have been here since before v4.0 was released. I know this post contains help on fixing the movable SIP bug and how to fix the proxy bug. But if I didn't know that, would I flip through 500 posts of "Hey, can you add WeatherBug to the ROM because that would be great?" Of course not.

It is just unfortunate that the feeling has become "few threads of infinite length" is FAR better than "more threads of a reasonable length" because while that may work for an OP who knows the exact words to use to do a forum-wide search, that is not the case for people looking for help ... which breeds flames and closed threads.

But, of course, it's their board ... so they have every right to do as they wish, and we need to respect that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
All good points.

I'm using v5 now and loving it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Hitting You Up :)

I am still thinking whether to go for it. The reinstall process, even with Sashimi, has me hesitating. If its ok, a few questions:

1) Is this Lite (business) or totally weighed down (full)

2) Are you using/testing with a 1.71 Radio and if so, did the performance of that radio vs. the battery get any better?

3) What HardSPL are you using

4) What is different?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
I don't think its a full version but I'm probably not the best person to ask about that.

I'm using 3.29 SPL.

Radio 1.71 is having very good battery life.

I was using Garmin D.K.8 rom but some of my 3rd party applications weren't liking it. This ROM is very fast and works very well with AT&T.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Beta Testers?

I feel like I am probably asking this question into the void but ...

Are any of the Beta Testers from v5 on this thread, and if so, since the beta test is over, would you be willing to speak up and say what might be new or different in v5?

Also, I have a few specific questions:

1) Were any of the drivers which were optimized to use Radio 1.71 incorporated (v4 had very poor battery performance with Radio 1.71, but other ROM threads mentioned cooked drivers were also needed)

2) Are there any OS level changes or is this just adding additional programs

3) Is this "Business/Lite" or the full loaded version.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Installed v5

Well, until the mods change their decision and realize that a 500+ thread which is off topic is not the best place for Beta 5 questions and posts, I guess I will be talking to myself :(

For those thinking about v5Beta, I have installed and found that it is a 'lite' version of the ROM (not overly bloated like the non-lite version), but has the following bugs:

1) Cannot flash to 1.71 Radio ... it gives me a bad flash error on the tri-color screen when I boot up. All other radios, including 1.70 do work

2) Arcade Park does not work (will not even start up)

3) Astraware GTS World Racing does not work (black screen only)

4) The cooked in Office Game requires a soft reset when done

5) Email no longer can be set to check via Wifi if Wifi is present before moving to 3G if it isn't. (v4 allowed this).

That's all I found/know so far. It does seem like a very nice ROM but bug 5 is very problematic. Would love to hear from ANY beta testers out there as to known/actual bugs. They have to exist because the ROM is dated late October.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
someone post it in its own thread then
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Thank You!!

msd24200 - I think this is kinda taking on a life of its own, and, as mentioned I must defer to the mods. I am more responding to the message you posted than the message it was edited into (which is there now).

I am thankful for ShoGunMark's efforts in his v4 ROM and for his attempt to update it. I am grateful that you checked into whether you could post it, and then that you posted it. At no point did I mean to discount ANY of that. THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO BRING A REAL AT&T BASED ROM TO TO THE TILT.

I was always under the impression that XDA-DEVELOPERS was here for users to ask for other users help. That is all I was hoping to do on v5. I am not asking or expecting ShoGun to respond. You made it clear he wouldn't. That's why waiting for him to create a thread, as the only way to start a thread, won't work. We have so many garbage threads on XDA ... ONE on v5 pales in significance.

However, when I started a new relevant thread, it was closed immediately by one of the mods under that mods false belief that there was a thread for v5. I then started posting here, but, there are no responses because this is not the proper thread for v5. I was in a catch-22.

I don't care who starts the v5 thread. If one of the beta testers wants to start that thread, all the better as they know what bugs were reported. I will be more than happy to start a thread posting my observations, if you think you can keep the mods from simply shutting it down.

I honestly just want to put this issue to rest, and find some way to seek some help from other users who may have workarounds or knowledge that I don't. That's all.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
easy start the new thread and entitle it something like Showgunmarks Death V5.4 Beta (unsupported) upload some screen shots, and post it, and let me know right before you do it and I'll gave Dave or tater a holla, and make sure its all good. Shogun never said we couldn't give it a thread only to make sure he gets credit for his hard work, and that I could share it with you all and thats what I have done.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
Okay, I don't know if this is a radio issue (I am using 1.71.09.01) or the rom, but I am finding that occasionally when I soft reset or replace the battery that the unit is locking up during the boot phase and not connecting to the network signal. A soft reset usually fixes it the second time.

I have tried a hard reset but it still happens occasionally.

What other radios are people using with the ROM that may work better?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Not Me

This thread now attempts to support 2 different ROM's, so I will assume you are on the v5 through your footer. If you were on v4 I can say that I never had any issues with v1.71 radio, other than awful battery life.

On v5 I have tried on 3 separate occasions to flash to 1.71 radio, each time I never get past the tri-color, with a ROM error. I have been able to boot on v1.70 radios.

I will probably have to abandon v5 shortly. I like it, but of the bugs I have been living with (posted in a prior thread), the one I cannot continue to live with is the inability of the phone to elect the connectivity path of "IF WIFI, USE WIFI, IF NO WIFI, USE 3G/EDGE/ETC" for email. If the email account is set for "The Internet" it will not start the cellular modem to check for email - its wifi or bust.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
Yes, I meant Death 5.4.

I was able to flash 1.71 via the SD method without a problem, but now will try to flash 1.70 to see if that works better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
Shogunmarks Death V5.4Betta is unsupported try using hardspl3.56 if you flash this rom as that was the spl I used and had no problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mauld81:
Volume Control

Anyone know how to change the Volume control back to the Default, as in-call volume doesn't seem to be working?

Thanks

Finally found my answer....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2718080&postcount=7
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tjapsor:
Very nice rom. But i have an question: how can you setup the "text-message recieved option"? The option that's sends you a text message after delevering a text message. I can't find the option on this rom.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trjons:
I used KaiserTweak to change that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tjapsor:
Thank you, it works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] safaari:
Teşekkürler
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mugglesquop:
lol thats some good logic :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kwill:
to keep with the spirit of it being light, why cant audio manager just be kept out. i and im sure a lot of people never use it. theres already wmp and s2p which is the best. it just takes up craploads of space for nothing. same with opera 9. lots of people prefer opera mini but dont want it cooked in. besides i cant get opera 9 to even connect to the internet. all the other apps removed are great, but those have to be the two biggest. all the things taken out can be easily added back in and arent really needed to be built into the rom for speed and stability of the app. just my opinion and if it doesnt matter, fine with me :)

ok, i take the opera 9 part back. re-enabled the proxy and it works fine. dont know why you need the proxy to use opera 9. anyways, keep it in, the scroll is soo much smoother. now, is there anyway to make it the default browser? thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drbowden:
Keyboard Problem!

Is anyone else having the bottom of the SIP keyboard cut off? I have changed SIPs a couple times, and the keyboard continues to be cut off at the level of the bottom bar.

Mark - super ROM for speed and stability, and I appreciate the business edition!

Dean
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] predo:
sip keyboard ? do you mean just a normal on screen keyboard that pops up when in vertical mode? i have the same issue although i think i didn't have it just after installing the rom... but not sure.... deffo an error - i think i'll try my 3rd rom in 2 days tonight - duttys newest...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drbowden:
Thanks!

Yes, the on screen keyboard is my problem. Thanks for the response!

Dean
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] payluder:
the camera works for me I removed my memory stick when i flashed my roms and hard reset everytime. My htc plugin is also removed maybe those things help but I have no problams with my camera and audio manager
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] King of Rapture™:
Love the ROM, stable and fast. But miss the TouchFLO v.3_0_29946_34.

Can someone post the download link for the cab.

Thanks in advance.

KOR! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwsco:
You must have had the lucky flash or something. I always remove my sd card and do a hard reset (even though technically that's done automagically with the newer ROMs) but it didn't work for me. I'm reflashing now to see if it makes a difference but I'm not holding out much hope if it's not even working for Shogunmark..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
you read my mind :) thanks for the lite version mark exactly what i wanted.

will give you a mirror when i get home. thanks bro.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Beta - Right?

I note the issues with the keyboard, camera, etc. The thread title doesn't say it, but this is still a beta right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcrompton:
Are you talking about bottom of keyboard cut-off mentioned a few posts back? Are all others experiencing this? Is there a fix?

Did you really revert back to 6.0? (like sig says)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xidium:
I'm lovin' the lite rom Shogun. Just a few issues.. The camera, as other people have stated, isn't working for some reason. Maybe something similar to the wifi issue, but with the camera? Also, I can't bet my touchpal sip to work. For the lite version it'd be nice if you could leave out the bigger programs like opera 9 and such. Anyways..very fast besides these issues, extremely responsive.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
Yup, I did!

I absolutely did. After 7 months of stock ROM I decided to make the journey into cooked ROMs in my attempt to get an updated Radio in hopes of getting a better signal at home.

I chose Dutty's Hybrid 6.1, and while it generally worked, internet access was misconfigured, and nothing could unconfigure it. For some reason, internet was ok, email was a no-go, and it would not substitute WiFi for the no-go. MyISP was setup as isp.cingulair (which is a very old protocol, being phased out), and no matter what I tried, I could not get the internet reconfigured. I tried different Radio's (from the AllTheWay list of compatible radios), but this was plain and simple a ROM issue ... ironically one which existed AFTER saying "Yes" to "I see you are on AT&T ... shall I install the AT&T communication settings" prompt!!!!

Since the ability to check my email (and to use the WiFi in lieu of the bad signal at home) is vital, I gave up, went to the HTC site, and redownloaded the very old AT&T stock ROM. Needless to say, everything is working again just fine (except I am still stuck with the old radio).

A cooked ROM is only 'everything' to the cooker, and the remainder of us have to put up with their choices (such as a heavily overloaded ROM which leaves virtually no storage space on the main device), but basic functionality is necessary. That is why I am looking at the Death ROM since it is based on the AT&T Tilt. I anticipate that everything that did not work for me with Dutty's Hybrid will be right with the Death series; and the creation of the lite version solves the 'no space due to overload' which is clearly present in the non-lite version. (Yikes!)

So my hopes ride high for the Death ROM! I am anxiously looking forward to the resported issues being resolved and for the ROM to leave beta, so that I can try again to leave the stock ROM.

By the way - for those who have flashed this ROM - does the Death ROM take care of the PTT issue (e.g., disable it and remap the buttons)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drbowden:
Slide 2 Unlock Problem too

S2U2 v1.05 is not working properly on this ROM for me. Together with the keyboard problem, I am going to go back to the full 4.1 (which worked well for me; just had many things I did not use).

I'll keep an eye on the thread and hopefully can reflash a later "Business Edition"!

Thanks again for your hard work, ShogunMark!

Dean
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] whk:
No - it does not - but look in the full version thread - someone said that ShogunKaiserPTTv2 CAB does do the remap.

Bill
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tankers:
I vote for the death of HHC in Death Lite. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
I think it does the opposite :)

Bill - unless I misread, that cab collection is to reapply the AT&T PTT function (which is a ludicrous thought, since every time you hit that button you get a message that if you hit it again they will charge you $9.95 per month).

I just never got my head around those who manage to flash 5x a day. There are SO many things which need to be redone by hand including:

1) Disabling PTT and adding the registry entries to enable the buttons

2) Re-setting any AT&T connectivity settings if the cooker didn't do it right

3) Re-setting the email settings (the thread which discusses how to set up a CAB for that is somewhat convoluted)

4) Re-setting your wifi settings (which CAN be done by CAB)

5) Re-setting Owner information (which must be done before installation of any apps)

6) Unbacking up any PIM information

7) Reinstalling your apps (Sashimi should take care of this)

I am very interested in Sashimi as far as APP reinstallation, but most of the above still has to be done by hand. This is why I have never really gotten into the flashing game on the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
+1 i agree. i know mark its ur mark and i'll take whatever u give :D but as a request any chance of leaving htc home and hhc out?

thanks for ur hardwork bro
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] payluder:
Anyone else NOT havin the camera problam? I'm wondering if I'm the only lucky person
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] neavissa:
kyakubov: you must be the ONLY one here with my kind a humor...

thanks,

georgios
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
3rd this? and maybe take out task manager since most of us "business/power users" use alternate software?

Don't remove Opera 9! Remove PIE before you even think about this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Resetting info after a new ROM flash

Owner information can easily be reinstalled by exporting HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Owner and then importing it in after ROM flash, using the registry editor you exported it with. I use this method for resetting a lot of values, like my area code, my settings and registration for Resco Explorer, my default Ring behaviour, my TouchPanel sensitivity, etc.

Spb Backup 2.0 can now do a complete reinstall of all apps even with a new ROM or on a new machine entirely, so you might check that out also
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jdmba:
I went to the site and it does, in fact, claim to be able to restore on a new ROM. While I don't doubt it, I cannot get my head around how this is even possible. Registry entries may change in the new ROM!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zard:
Some feedback for the rom.

S2U2 v1.04 and 1.05 when ran causes black screen. I tried to edit the registry setting for v1.04 to disable directdraw but still the same problem happened.

With PCMKeyboard, in certain apps (sorry can remember), the bottom row of the keyboard is hidden.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SouthernLuke:
I'm with the guys here. I just need it for the custom db to add my city for weather. And maybe a clock change here and there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Yeah, it does it - I did it when I first installed Death v4 - seemed to be OK - Start Menu was not updated, and PIE+ was not functioning when I fired up IE - those are the only 2 things I noticed - but I decided I would hard reset and install by hand just to try to have the leanest setup I could. Certainly just for restoring your personal data it does a fine job, but it could do that in earlier versions even on a new ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] neavissa:
slovoflud: i didn't get it at first. EMO, thats funny though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
Camera works for me.

Hard resetting, though. Gotta see if I can get the gx numbers up some.... tweaking is fun.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
I let Spb Backup 2.0 run for about 30 mins while attempting a full backup. It just freezes on all versions of death so far. Haven't tried it on lite yet though. I got the cab direct from their website. Should I wait longer to see if any progress?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
ok.. im home from work, kids are in bed, wife is sleeping.... let the cooking/fixing begin...

I dumped original ATT rom on my computer at work, reinstalled the kitchen and reworkd my packages... this thing better not get corrupt now!!!!

So in light of my inability to test things (if its not wifi its the camera, lol) im going to make a few different version of the lite! just watch and you will see!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] typester:
finally!

i've had somewhat a bad day, so this will be a good end.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
your not the only one who has had a bad F'ing day!!!!

Im flashing one version now, as soon as i verify EVERYTHING works, i will upload!

The first version up will be a ATT version with PTT....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
looking forward to this. thanks mark :) hopefully another one will follow suite without ptt and htc home/hcc removed (fingers crossed:)). Get some rest too man.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] typester:
no rush...i'm just sitting here and waiting :)

jk take your time, i'm in no hurry i'm out of town so i have most of the night.