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[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] aldoblaga:
So true man! Finally someonenm said it :)))

My biggest gripe is the heating issue when i use the phone more intensely...i mean messaging is fine but even when i use the camera it gets pretty hot pretty quick - i m talking 40+ degrees C on the screen and back :| i really hope some dev will build us exynos users a more power-efficient kernel soon...
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] flipsonic:
Have had the S20+ (Exynos) for about a month now and have played around with various settings and usually get between 4.5 hours and 5.5 hours SOT in a 12-14 hour day.

My current set up this week has given me over 6 hours SOT in 23 hours to 24 hours.

Current set up:

Optimised mode.

Bixy routine to set to Medium power mode from 1am to 7am

96hz @ FHD+

AOD - Tap to wake. This setting looks to have increased my SOT from just ovet 5 hours to just over 6 hours

40% brightness

Connected to WiFi

Galaxy Watch Active connected.

Galaxy Buds+ every now and then

Most used apps in order - YouTube, Chrome Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Words with Friends, Outlook, Whatsaspp, Phone, Gmail, Spotify

On days when I use the camera or Google maps when driving, SOT will be around 4.5 and 5.5 hours

Haven't had a full day outside, so wondering how much 4G will have an affect on battery life.

I was initially in two minds about returning the S20+ for a Oneplus8 Pro. But am now satisfied and enjoying my experience.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] creep138:
Just to clarify I do have a job, it was just a day off so I decided to test the battery cause this thread had me curious. PPSSPP was at max settings and that always killed my battery.

This phones a beast with the snapdragon
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] djoxie:
I did not mean to say something bad, I would like to see how the phone behaves in your everyday use. Please, if you have time, post results of regular day that includes 5g or 4g also.

Cheers ✌
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] creep138:
I have no 5g in my area, but I leave it on so I guess it's searching in the background.

I use Spotify over Bluetooth for 8hrs at my job, some light use on downtime to see forums, and no aod cause I noticed it doesn't turn off in my pocket unlike my s9+. When I get home I'm usually between 70-75% battery life left.

Comparing it to my s9+ I'd get home with just above 50% battery left using the same routine
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Tymi94:
SOT

Hey guys, just got the s20+ (Exynos) and first day of use was really bad. Unplugged at 8pm battery was at 100% went out to take some pics etc. Came back home after 2hrs it was around 10pm. Phone was down to 36% already. Is this normal? Will it stabilise after couple of days?

Question no.2

How do I check real Screen on time? I only found some weird option in the battery settings which shows like weird portions of sot (as seen on screenshot)

[IMG="SOT"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-CfoFxZu2M12oELi73V5rGkTzotdqGHa/view?usp=drivesdk[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] aldoblaga:
Use a third party app for sot.

I m currently trying 48hz to see how much batt life i can squeeze out of my s20+ ? between 60 and 48hz there s not much of a difference in (lack of) smoothness so i said why not.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Tymi94:
Forgot to mention I was using 120hz but thats why I chose this over note10+. I have now changed it to 96hz to see if any improvement in battery life & 96hz is smooth just like 120hz
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] russellcausier:
I can't tell if 96hz saves a whole lot more than 120hz I tried them power with power saving on via Bixby routines, heard some say about half hours difference
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Sleepycat3:
Yes, I'm seeing the same thing too on my S20U Exynos. Screen on time has gone from 8 hours 30 minutes to 9 hours 12 minutes after switching from 120Hz to 96Hz (and resetting Accubattery stats)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
If I compare the Gsam battery monitor screenshots from posters in this thread, app usage is always between 55% to over 70% with Android system being the biggest culprit, when I compare it to my Mate 20 Pro, with exactly same apps and setup to my S20+ exy, the app usage % is between 15 and 20% and the android system usage is only 2.8% and kernel is 1.1%, whereas on the S20+ its 23% for system and 16.8% for kernel. So a huge difference and obviously (in part at least) the reason why battery is so poor for so many, seems system is not optimised or something...
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Tymi94:
What's your settings man? On my first unit of s20+ i was only getting around 3h screen on time. I just exchanged it today as was also having microphone issues and overheating. I know it might be too earlybut this new unit seems to have a lot better battery life but no chance it will do 9h SOT. I'm wondering how some people get so much sot. Any specfic settings you got on to help squeeze more battery?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] westeight:
ATFG July update has definitely improved battery efficiency.

Almost 60 hours on a single charge:
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
I debloated a lot, went through my apps list and disabled background activity for most including system apps, turned data off as I have WiFi and having data on means phone is pinging towers whole time. Installed Naptime app, all this has made a difference so far, still testing.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Sleepycat3:
I did not debloat. I still have all the standard Samsung apps on mine. Only thing special is that i run Nova Launcher on top of the stock Samsung UI, but that should just consume more battery.

My phone is stock unrooted, so I can't even disable or uninstall the Samsung bloatware. The only difference in my settings is that I put apps that I wanted notifications for but did not want running in the background into the Sleeping Apps category in Device Care, Battery, App Power Management. Other programs which I definitely did not want to use at all, I put into the Deep Sleeping Apps category. These were apps that I only ever want to run when I had it on screen and when I exited, I wanted it cleared from memory. I also made sure that apps that I didn't care for notifications on also had notifications turned off. The only apps with notifications on are messaging apps and Gmail.

One big culprit are apps which keep notifying when someone posts an update. So Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Linkedin use a lot of battery if notifications are on. If you always fire up Facebook or Instagram to check many times each day anyway, turn notifications off for those apps.

To find your problem apps, install Accubattery, but make sure to turn off Accubattery's notifications. You don't need it telling you how much battery you have left or the consumption rate since you have the built in battery level. If notifications are on, Accubattery will also use up your battery. In the discharge tab, enable individual app battery consumption reporting. Then as you normally use your phone, you should see those apps at the top of the chart using most of the battery. If you find an app which you don't use but consuming a lot of battery, then it needs to go into the Deep Sleeping Apps category. One that I found always caused issues was Wechat. With Wechat, if I use force stop everytime I exit it, the battery drain is prevented. According to Toaster, it is constantly communicating with some obscure server. Probably China trying to track me!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] *Detection*:
You don't need root to disable bloat, you can use ADB via PC USB or install Package Disabler Pro from the Play Store and do it from the app
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] paulospml:
How to check SoT ? new to Samsung, only can check by day, not by charge.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
Install gsam battery app from play Store
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] mistermidas:
5hrs of screen on time...you barely even used the phone. Just shows that it sleeps well, like it should.

Would be different if you got 58hrs on a charge with 10+ hrs of screen on time. I mean, the name of the thread is SCREEN ON TIME... not "how well the phone sleeps".
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] jojos38:
About 8 hours SOT on S20 Exynos

-> Debloated

-> Medium brightness

-> Wi-Fi / Mobile data (both bad signal)

-> Dynamic power mode (so sometimes it's medium power saving, sometimes it's optimized, the phone does it itself)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
ok, so compared my old S9 with my S20+, same setup apps etc, and compared Gsam battery monitor results for Android system and Kernel (the 2 highest battery drainers on my S20+) on S9 Android system averages around 10% and Kernel around 7%, on my S20+ they are 23% and 18% respectively, thats a massive difference, and speaks to the fact that the S20's are not as optimised (yet), hence the poor SoT for most, hope Samsung improve things...
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] OFz:
Which app are you Debloated?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Gungcho:
Yes i saw that too. Disabling some apps, others in deep sleep, i still can't get avarage of 1% per hour when screen is off ( best i got is 1,3%). I had no such issues on my mate 20 pro.. I am in vacation now, so i can really test it thoroughly, charge to full before sleeping and checking when i wake up. Got the july update but the battery is the same, maybe it is not exactly the july update as I've seen in some reports. The bummer is that the Huawei would do everything by itself i did not have to touch it, now o have to do something to be certain i will get throughout the day and have no worries that my phone will not die.. I kinda regret not waiting for the iphone 12, but still the s20 (exynos) is a really good phone with the best screen I've seen.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
I've done a similar debloat, why did you leave Bixby vision?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] jojos38:
I use it for the camera (scanning QR codes etc...)
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] TheBledard:
Hi,

I've got the S20 Ultra 5G Exynos variant (Europe).

I have 9 hrs of SOT (screenshot attached, 100% to 1%).

No Facebook app (I use Chrome with notification enabled), Twitter as Chrome app.

Dark mode, 60Hz, Optimized battery mode, no 5G, 4G always enabled (poor connection) and WiFi always enabled, Bluetooth disabled, NFC enabled, Always On enabled on Touch, VoLTE and VoWiFi enabled. Sync and location always enabled.

I haven't debloated yet but I think SOT can still be improved with little more tweaks.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] OFz:
Wow, It is too much, but I will refer to it. Thank you very much. And, Am I doing the same thing on my s20 plus?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Nowa Concordia:
Why?

Why did you all buy this phone in the first place if you are running it at such low profile configs :D lol

You'd have saved lot of money and pain if you just bought an ordinary phone to run the current configs you people spend hours to configure on s20 and post SOT times desperately here to create yourself a delusion that battery life is better on this phone ????
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] aldoblaga:
Yep..the brass facts is that at the end of the day it s just as good as the note 9...s10...note 10 as far as battery...because the (arguably worse) SOC, screen tech, antennae and other miscelaneous things prevent it from being a revolutionary phone. Expect the same from now on, more and more incremental updates although Samsung is partnering with AMD for the graphics and will use ARMs own chips (no more custom cores) i m sure they will NEVER make the absolute best phone in every department, only come close...because it isn t financially sane to put put the best and push the envelope of performance and quality as high as u can - it s very costly and counterproductive and nobody does it anymore. Apple and Htc did it till a point :)) but they saw first hand that ultra premium is too costly in comparison with the (financial) returns. Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Nowa Concordia:
yea, but I still think for that kind of high price point, samsung should be held responsible for not providing a service on par with most other mobile vendors in terms of longevity and usability. I blame their extreme greedy approach to build zillion different models, which really doesn't give them time to provide at least one reasonably polished device. Putting every bell and whistle is useless, if they can't keep the balance in power budgets and software. Also we've had enough debates already on their double standards at choosing processors. It should be one of the greatest scandals of our time.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] aldoblaga:
Totally agree with u!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] paullu:
I just bought us version s20+ the battery sucks! Only 5 hours something sot with 15% left! My previous phone mate 30 pro much better !
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Gungcho:
You will have to wait a week or two. Now the phone is learning your usage, so the battery life will be bad. Use it and you will see. Though coming from mate 20 pro it is a shock for me too.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
Have gone back to my P30 Pro, way better battery 10 to 11 SoT with minimum system changes and photo quality in a different league compared to my S20+
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] paullu:
It is been five days, sot 5-6 hours in around 12 hours battery life. But in good side 120hertz very smooth and speaker better.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] hpagliettini:
Did you do the debloat thing? How was your battery life? Was it for better?

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Before you did that, how was you battery life?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] jojos38:
I'd say 7h sot, it improved 1h
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] hpagliettini:
And how ymdid you do? The debloat? With some apk or adb?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
I used Adb for my debloat, and yes I'd say it added 1 hr to 1 & half hr SoT. Samsung's biggest problem beside the exy chipset which ain't the most efficient, is the fact that they have 450 odd inbuilt processes & apps on their phones, i compared this to my Huawei p30 pro which has only around 200. So after debloat my Samsung has around 300 processes and apps and my P30 pro has around 140, i think that also contributes to the big difference in SoT. Around 7 to 8 hrs with my S20+ and around 10 to 11 hrs with my P30 pro.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] russellcausier:
Do you just right click in the adb files then enter those on the terminal? Pretty new to adb, is there a way to tell if they have been removed and can you re enable them? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Jostian:
I use an app like package info to get full list of apps on phone, make sure you select to show system process from 3 for menu. Then i looked at the debloat list that had been created by others, i then enable developer options on the phone (go to system & updates) and tap build number 6 times, then go back and select developer options and enable usb debugging. Once you've installed adb on your pc connect your phone to pc with cable, go to explorer on pc click on c drive, you'll see adb folder, open that folder then right click somewhere in folder that is blank while holding down shift key, shaft open power shell window, on your phone give connection permission. In the command shell window type 'adb devices' it should show device and 'authorised' then type adb shell, from there you can do the uninstalling. Check this video for further info and process https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/

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To reinstall an uninstalled app see this link https://android.stackexchange.com/q...app-which-is-uninstalled-for-the-current-user
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] russellcausier:
Thanks sorted I've debloated quite a bit, also debloated stock one ui launcher as using lawnchair but can't get recent apps list anywhere are there any fixes for this plz or do I need to re install launcher? Can I re install stock launcher? Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] *Detection*:
Yes you need stock launcher for recent apps to work, use the same install command as you would for any other app
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] russellcausier:
Cheers is the the exact same commands so pm install etc just like pm uninstall? I've got recents to work by using goodlock instead for now ??
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] *Detection*:
There's a link a page or two back with the exact ADB command to reinstall, you're not actually uninstalling them when you run the uninstall command, just removing them from the user profile, so it's really disable / enable
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] russellcausier:
Does anyone know the package name to re install the Samsung one ui launcher please
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] hanifh:
hey, thanks for this!
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] tluley51:
S20 regular, Snapdragon model, 96hz, adaptive brightness and AOD turned off. GSAM installed for about a week without root, I average 17 hrs off charge and just over 3 hrs SoT. To me, this is awful. I shouldn't need to tweak the phone to get mediocre battery life. Even if I debloated and did everything people mention in this thread, the battery life isn't even close to my 2 year old OnePlus 6T. I don't get it...
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] *Detection*:
Yea you should be getting more than that, I got average 5 hours SoT with my S9 standard, but all depends how you use your phone, if you're playing games all day you'll kill it in a few hours easy, if you're just chatting on WhatsApp it'll last all day
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] tluley51:
Yeah I'm not doing anything crazy. Light gaming, reddit browsing, Instagram, Twitter, web browsing. That's it.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] *Detection*:
There are a few options:

Clear cache from recovery

Factory reset

Wait for future updates

Flash an unlocked firmware if you're running carrier branded

Disable 5G if you're not in a 5G area

Use Package Disabler Pro / ADB to disable bloat

Set all apps that do not need to run in the background unable to from their info panel battery options
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] tluley51:
Ive owned the phone since April and have factory reset 3 times. I am unable to disable 5g, there is no option to in mobile networks (Visible is my carrier). Even if I debloat, I might gain what...another half hour SoT? Not worth all that work. Would rather just ride it out and sell it when the next OnePlus/Pixel releases.

I haven't seen the firmware flash be mentioned anywhere. How would that have any negative effect on battery?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] aldoblaga:
You mean you don t have this?

What model no? What carrier/country?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Lauren G:
Just got myself an S20+ 5G(exynos) and the battery life is absolutely terrible. Averaging around 2.5 to 3 hours of SOT is just unacceptable,even with 120hz.

I am not a heavy user,just using my phone mainly for calls and a few social media apps.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] golfgtiedition30:
Over 7 hours so far today....
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] paullu:
How long total for battery life? Ten hours?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] golfgtiedition30:
13-14 I would guess. Im charging now so not sure?
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] theeagleeye:
I improved my SOT with some unique tweaks

3 days in with my S20+ (Exynos). Initially, SOT was around 3 hours 50 minutes, but I attribute that to playing around with the phone and installing/uninstalling a lot of apps since I never use Smart Switch or any similar functionality when I get a new phone. I did some tweaks with Bixby routine, and I think that helped quite a lot. Now, my SOT is 5 hours and 30 minutes (heavy use) since my previous charge.

I noticed some LTE networks drain battery faster than others. I'm no mobile network guru, and this is strictly my observation since my job requires me to travel across Southeast Asia. This gave me the chance to compare my old phone's battery life while connected to a local 4G network. If mobile network reception is poorer, I think it tends to drain more power. I applied the same principle to setting up my Bixby routines, which I think helped increase my battery life quite a bit.

First, I created a Bixby routine to switch my network mode to old school "2G only" and turn off mobile data when I'm connected to my home wifi network. No real reason for my phone to be on standby to connect to an LTE network for this scenario. Next, I created another Bixby routine to switch network mode to LTE/4G/3G (auto connect) and turn on mobile data whenever I am no longer connected to my home wifi network. This solves the problem of having to manually switch it back on. You can fine tune these preferences by using location instead of your home wifi network as a trigger, or switch back network mode to LTE and turn on mobile data whenever you switch off your wifi setting. You can also add other wifi networks as triggers by creating more routines to achieve the same effect (like, when you're connected to your office wifi network), but remember to create another routine to switch back to LTE and turn on mobile data.

These observations are still quite early, but I'm happy with the initial results since I did use the phone heavily. This also brought down my standby drain to less than 1% per hour. I will observe my power readings for the 2nd day of using these tweaks.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Gungcho:
It will get better in 1 or 2 weeks, you should have nearly double the sot. Yet what you you are experiencing is what i am experiencing - poor network optimization. You should not set up routines to change lte to 2g or such just to get a normal standby drain.. We can only hope samsung will fix it soon. As i said numerous times my old mate 20 pro with the same usage will finish a work day with 55+% battery, most of the days 60-70%, whit the same usage as now, the most I did was turning off data when i have almost no signal, and I would never worry if i can survive the commute to home and will have to plug it in almost immediately.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] theeagleeye:
Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't necessarily complaining about the battery life. I was sharing my own observations. Also, I see no reason why I shouldn't switch network modes through Bixby routines. I have no use for LTE network bands while I'm on wifi networks that I trust.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Gungcho:
I see. And you are correct if you don't need lte or 3g at home why not turning it off. I just wanted to point out that the network optimization is not good from my experience and it leads to battery drain that normally should not happen.
[Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Real Life Re] Reuben_skelz92:
Exynos isn't great. Get 5 hours SOT max