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[Magisk] romulocarlos:
Hello.

As we know, Magisk won't touch system partition. But.... There is there a way to really integrate apps to /system?

I'm asking because I use Cerberus, and want to integrate some app's updates also (so, if I reset my phone, don't need a lot of updates again). I want to remove some useless apps also, but all of them are back if I reset my phone.

For Cerberus, I have tested and it won't survive after a hard reset from recovery and/or settings if it is integrated while Magisk is running. So, I had to systemize it from TWRP, using some terminal commands.

I think something like "Link2SD for TWRP", as we can't play with system partition while Magisk is running. Sorry if this question already exists, but I don't find any thread yet.

Thank you in advice.
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
You can "play with system partition" when Magisk is running. It's mounted in /sbin/.magisk/mirror. You could also enable Core Only Mode (disables all modules) which would mean that the magic mask doesn't get mounted in place of the actual system. Might not be good if you have a bunch of modules though...

Mainly, if you do need apps to do real system modifications with Magisk's magic mask in place you need to ask the developers to make sure that it works. Magisk is the current root solution of choice for most users, and root app developers will simply have to adapt...
[Magisk] romulocarlos:
Thank you.

I don't have any module running. I only need root to systemize Cerberus and remove some useless apps, nothing else.

So, is possible that an app can write directly to /system instead of Magisk link? If yes, even Titanium Backup needs an upgrade...
[Magisk] Didgeridoohan:
In that case, just enabling Core Only Mode should make things work as you expect (in theory) and there won't be a magic mask in the way.

Edit: of course, there might be all kinds of other things in your way, such as SAR, logic partitions, etc.
[Magisk] romulocarlos:
Thanks, and sorry for late reply.

As soon I can, I'll test and report here.
[Magisk] romulocarlos:
Just tested. I don't reset my phone, but enabled core mode.

As 'cat /proc/monts' says /system is on Magisk mount, I think core mode isn't the answer.

I'll systemize Magisk Manager, also. So, if I reset, I'll not lose it. Is there a way to keep Manager settings after a reset? Cerberus won't have root until Manager comes up!
[Magisk] billyt1:
Magisk overlays whatever module you decide to install. So that being said grab a root explorer go to /data/adb/modules, I used the osmosis BusyBox module. When in the BusyBox module you click on /system there will only be a

/bin folder jus add /app or /priv-app or / product/app or /product/priv-app depending on where it needs to go. Then you can place your app that needs to be systemized in the folder set the permissions then restart. I have a Pixel 3 XL running Android 10 on logic partitions and this is the only way. Also trying to had ringtones/notifications to /product/media doesn't work you'll need to put whatever ringtone/notification you want In The ringtone/notification folder on the sdcard not the removable sdcard but the phones sdcard

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If you ain't using the Pixel 3 you would be able to use a add-on.d script to keep magisk installed after a factory reset

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https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/scripts/addon.d.sh

Another option you should try is verity disabler.

https://xdaforums.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389/amp/

This option worked before the logical partitions on my Pixel 3 XL which allowed me to place what I wanted in the actual system folders an restart an they still be there.

Without the disabler you would need a custom kernel to do this. There's an actual way of doing this while flashing the phone it has to do with vbmeta IMG but I couldn't figure it out I'd imagine it has to do with being on a user build and not a Dev build. You will need a working trwp for this to work. When in twrp you'll need to do a complete wipe. Then without restarting the phone adb the zip over to flash
[Magisk] romulocarlos:
Thank you

My phone is a Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite. The only way to really systemize is through TWRP, with some commands. Not so much work...
[Xiaomi Redmi 8 Questions & Answers] Master of None:
Custom rom????
[Xiaomi Redmi 8 Questions & Answers] Nikparekh16@gmail.com:
Redmi 8

I also need a custom ROM of redmi 8 and custom recovery
[Xiaomi Redmi 8 Questions & Answers] Phatboyaa:
There are still no custom rom huh? I guess I need to wait a little bit more to buy this phone.
[Xiaomi Redmi 8 Questions & Answers] qamu74:
Have xiaomi.eu custom miui rom,but not twrp.....
[Xiaomi Redmi 8 Questions & Answers] soket1:
Try Redmi 8a twrp (if you display is Tianma)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Questions & Answers] Smolson:
Hello,

I have problems with permission on Bootleggers ROM. (I switch from yet unstable/unusable Q ROMs)

If I want to apply accessibility permission. It says "Because an app is obscuring a permission request, settings can't verify your response."

How I can fix it? Anyone face it?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
I mean you can fry an egg on that thing after almost 5 minutes of use. Never happened to my TyTn II.

Anyone experience this ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] slicker:
It's a feature :) Helps to keep your hands warm.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flaviopac:
How many degrees does it reaches?

(Try to look at this using something like BatteryStatus...)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
Im still within my 15 days swap policy. I can exchange it if the device if faulty. But if his is a common problem to Diamond then I will just wait for a better ROM that might fix it.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
They never said on the specs that it can fry an egg. Thats a nice appliance to the wife.:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flaviopac:
A new feature of Diamond! :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Jorlin:
Where does it become hot (hottest)? The middle part of the back, where the battery is?

Or lower or upper part? Or the whole unit?

I am just wondering if this is a battery problem or if this is due to hot chipsets...

Either of them would not be good news... honestly
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flaviopac:
I've an idea to fix this.....

Try to use it inside the fridge.....:D:D:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] slicker:
You can't say HTC didn't warn us thought... they said they would be launching a HOT new phone... who new they've meant it literally :)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] flaviopac:
UP..!!....:D:D:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
Its actually the lower part of the phone just under the battery. Its very uncomfortable to hold. I just don't want this thing to explode one day.

Obviously, Im the only one who had this additional feature on his phone.

RMA...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] wbaez0320:
Dont feel left out I, also have that nice feature however it's not that bad. I, removed the battery cover and it's warm at the bottom while battery is rather cool.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
I remmeber back in the day when I first got the Tytn II its had the same problem but after the chefs started cooking custom roms the problem went away completely to non existent. I'm assuming its a ROM issue.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Jorlin:
Seems to be where the QualComm chip is (see attached image - snipping tool 4tw :D)

If the image equals the real architecture of the Touch Diamond, the main processor is the reason for that. Probably not the smartest idea to just put it right beneath the surface...

Judging upon this, the Touch Pro should actually do better (even if the chip gets so warm) because the keyboard is between the main unit and the palm of your hand.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Jorlin:
That makes me wonder if there is some stepping problem of the CPU running on full throttle by what reasons soever... If this gets fixed this might also have a significant impact on battery life.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] wbaez0320:
Can't wait for custom roms to see what this device is really capable of.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] KukurikU:
i disabled the htcflow and i watched the microprocessor's activity with the batterystatus plugin. nothing unusual. it might be that WITH htcflow the the situation changes....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
Looks like touchflo puts so much stress on the processor. Although its 524,if not mistaken, it feels a lot slower than the tytn which is 400Mhz.

Disabling touchflo changes the whole situation. The device is very fast and responsive(Still Hot). But whats good it is without the touchflo!!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] webvan:
same here that thing is bloody hot not to mention horrible battery life on wifi since you must use maximum power for it to work properly...

anyone got a link for battery status?

I will try to deactivate touch flo 3d and put the cube much more convenient I think, anyone tried that ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
YES . I wanted to mention also that the Wifi sensitivity is really bad you have to crank it up to the maximum to work decently. This is a radio problem and im sure by Sept. when they release the US version rumors have it that it will have an updated ROM version from HTC tackling these issues.

I still prefers a cooked ROM:p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] MasK:
Hmm.. I used to own the Cruise, and I have to admit at the Diamond is faster for me.

Even with all the tweaks and with low memory left (~20MB++) it's still pretty responsive in TF3D, scrolling of programs, etc. not the mention the video playback on Coreplayer performs incredibly good.

I have a feeling that the software installed gives the user alot of different kinds of experiences...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] cina:
Hi!

I've just installed iGO8 and tested the software on an 100km trip. Meanwhile the box was on charger.

The whole thing got so hot after 20 mins that suddenly it switched off itself and couldn't be turned on for a while (10 mins approx.) only the boot logo was displayed (Touch DIAMOND - even version info was not displayed) and turned itself off. After a cooldown (I kept outside of the car at 50km/h - was really effective but I was afraid off dropping it) it turned on and it works O.K. since than. So it surely has an overheat protection but it is not useful for hard stress situations.

Anyone with the same situation? Deos it heats on video playback?

ROM is 1.37.404
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ammcfc:
It was not heat protection...just the battery was empty....this is known bug...

When the phone is on and some programe working the battery suddenly stopped charging in 70% and after while goes down
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] webvan:
slightly OT but maybe not that much how did you install iGo 8 on your Diamond since it doesn't have a memory slot ? Maybe what you saw is some kind of "protection" of the software...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] pchronos:
Mine got RED hot to the point of failure ( radio lost signal and other strange behavior ) using it as a 3G data modem with my laptop for about 30 min. Had it connected by USB so I guess it was also charging at the same time.

Talk about a STRESS test !

After a few minutes of peaceful cool down it started up ok and runs fine again.

Also, I find it gets very HOT with GPS use. Mind you it is also pluged in and charging in the car also.

Never had this problem with the TyTN 2 or Cruise.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ammcfc:
I can officially confirm (after many attempts) that when HTC Diamond's going extremely hot it's stop charging the battery. I partly solved the problem....put it just over air flow from conditioner in my car...so, i'm charging, navigating and cooling simultaneously without problem now :)

I'm afraid this bug can not be repaired from HTC....Just the used proc is too hot and too close to battery...Wrong design ...:(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] mooooooa:
Mine is also very hot!! I mean, HOT = beautifull ;D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] cina:
Well! I have an idea why is it so hot!

If you use it in a stressed condition all the current that sucks the energy from the battery can go up to a higher level while you are charging your battery is only 0.5A (regarding to the parameters of the official charger of Diamond). So if the current supplied by the battery is higher than the current of the charger all this energy goes through the batter immediately. That is why the battery is so hot in these situations. I've tried IGO8 without charger and it wasn't so hot which was caused by the CPU only. If I plug the charger both heat source works on top. That's the recipe to fry diamond eggs in your car...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ghostz32:
Mine also..the hottest ppc ever :),think might wanna change to p3600i soon..!!!:D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] webvan:
You can check that theory with the battery status plugin that shows the power situation, negative or positive.

As for being hot, my Touch Dual gets just as hot when browsing in 3G+ for a long time. No magic, too small for proper heat dissipation.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ammcfc:
I think the explain is more simple....The proc is just under battery...So, in normal use (without charging device) the proc is cooling thru battery and rear cover...when the charging is on, the battery is hot, and the proc can not be cooled...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] cina:
Almost the same as I said. But if you just charge the battery without any software running it is not that hot. So that is why stressing Diamond is a serious problem.

Somewhere I found a glass drowing of Diamond that the CPU is not exactly under the battery but lower to the buttons at around the level of HTC label. And that area is not so HOT just over battery.

Probably the only solution to air condition your Diamond in your car (see previous posts).
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] ammcfc:
Previous post about air conditioned Diamond is mine :)

But it's too unacceptable for a such over the top phone for which HTC claim will sell over two millions units....
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] mcvpjd3:
Where can I find this batterystatus plugin?

Thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] webvan:
Google is your friend, but there you go http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=1504 ;-)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Skele:
I too faced the same problem a few days back. The phone started getting hot in a few minutes & the battery drained out in a few minutes. It started after I changed the SIM card from Etisalat to Vodaphone (I'm in India for vacation. I changed the SIM to BSNL & the issue has disappeared. So I think it's mainly due to the SIM card compatiblity than anything else
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] cina:
What is BSNL? Is it your service provider (Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd.) or is it a type of SIM card? I didn't know that not all SIM are different.

Probably not SIMs different but services that come with SIMs (900 MHz, 1800MHz, etc). What is the difference between the two services anyway?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Skele:
BSNL is Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd, the government service provider. As much as I know some companies provide older version of the SIM which has issues with GPRS, 3G etc. The Etisalat (UAE provider) SIM I had earlier had issues with contacts and connections. I had to get it replaced when I had taken my Nokia N81. So there seems to be differance with the SIMs.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] tuzinski:
quick fiz so your diamond doesnt get so hot.

get some aluminium foil and put it behind the proc and there wont be so much heat, as it will act as a heat sink.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] echubmw:
pretty good idea, has anyone tried it yet? can the back cover close completely?!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] timn2087:
it fits okay

The aluminum foil fits okay and the cover still closes, but will this perhaps adversely affect the antenna/reception? and in turn maybe battery life will suffer?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] zyborg:
Danger, danger!

Just to let you know, a guy using this forum informed me - in the thread linked below - that aluminum and electronics doesn't mix well and that the battery may explode!!

See and judge for yourselves:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2364567#post2364567
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] cina:
I think that won't be a solution. Wouldn't the foil reflect the heat back on the CPU? How can you achieve tight contact to the CPU? I've studied physics in high school and as far as I can remember heat dissipation can only be achieved by close contact as a minimal layer of air has the best heat isolating effect. That is why you have to use pasta between you desktop CPU surface and the bottom of your CPU cooler.

Note: Paramedics use alu-foil to prevent newborn infants to cool down rapidly. That is very effective and save babies life. That is a fact!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] timn2087:
foil for heatsink

No this is not a good idea. I tried it and it made the reception so bad! As soon as I took the foil away, reception was fine again. So the foil is not a good idea.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Riel:
IT's good the outside gets hot. This way you are sure the processor is losing its temperature.

When you start covering it the outside will be chilled, but processor will be cooking.

Bad idea.

BEst thing would be a grid in the back cover so heat can get out of there.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Hennes19:
Hi there,

I had the same problems with my Diamond. I informed HTC and they said, that it is a known issue, but there is still no workaround.

So I called my vendor and exchanged the phone to a new one.

The new Diamond is MUCH MUCH cooler, even after 3 hours of work (and the WiFi-Connection quality is also better)

So ... ... check your return/exchange policy

Have a nice weekend!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Spawn12:
The lower part of mine gets very hot, in fact its pretty uncomfortable to hold after awhile. Ive noticed it gets pretty hot when using GPS and when on a call...its quite annoying in all honesty and i really dont understand why HTC didnt bother to check this out before releasing the unit...its pretty rubbish QC testing on their part.

I dont think it has anything to do with the battery but rather the chipsets in the lower part of the phone...as the battery itself doesnt get that hot.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] webvan:
Yes, same thing on the HTC Dual, too small, not easy to dissipate heat.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Sergio PC:
So what if its hot?? BIG deal. I mean the phone is HOT but in a looking HOT way.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] daraj:
I couldn't agree more. I think it has something to do with the chipsets and circuits overheating after certain time which may explode for all I know.

I think HTC rushed this phone out in a desperate attempt to beat the release of the upcoming Iphone 3G thus stealing some market share away from it and getting a piece of the pie. And what proves my point is that right after the Diamond release, HTC started releasing multiple ROMS to fix performance issues and numerous bugs. Which brings a question whether the phone was ready for a release to begin with. I think HTC released a beta version of the ROM.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Sergio PC:
Dude not everything revolves around the "iphone". I would never get that piece of sh**. Big deal if the phone heats up, all electronics heat up. Besides are you aware of the fact that its a dammm small phone packing ALL the features.

Cheers boys.

Remember second best they are. fu** the iphone.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] chand4u76:
Is there any solution to this yet. Phone getting hot after a decent use of 10-15 minutes on call/wifi etc. Will a radio update or ROM update fix this. I have an stock Orange ROM
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] mugglesquop:
i'm not surprised the phone heats up... it will do, unless you want to strap a PC cooling fan to it! PCs have always needed fans to keep the CPU cool. Its part of technology, i'm impressed they have managed to create a 500Mhz CPU that doesnt need a fan!!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] RSchris:
I can't vote, there is no "all" option...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] zyborg:
Sorry, but then you don't understand the principle of "voting".;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] Martinus:
then would be the option none also not be voting ;)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] akash_84:
Hi all

Sorry had to register again as I forgot the old account was on my old email address which is in-active and I also forgot the password to the username!

OK first things first, we know we CANNOT narrow it down. Mine also heats up (as mentioned in another thread that was created on here). I can just leave it alone while paired to the car, by the end of the journey it is warm. Obviously talking too gets it warm (but most phones do) and WiFI does too.

What can we do?

1. Someone/all of us needs to contact HTC about it. I have dropped them a mail today but if I get no answer within 48hours, I will phone them - I also have direct contacts with them as the work I do involves a lot of testing for them!

2. Can we base it on the radio? If so, we need a simple line to say what "bit" if not all, is causing the heat (ie: wifi/bt etc) along with a radio rom version.

This can then be sent to HTC too.

I might strip a diamond on Sunday to see if I can pinpoint where the heat is coming from (if any one point) but I need to ask the manager before stripping a £400 phone (99% he wont mind!)

Please feel free to correct me if I have said anything wrong above.

My issue is caused on

Flavour: Original HTC Diamond (Unlocked as opposed to a badged one)

Radio: 1.00.25.03

Rom: 1.37.405.1.WWE

P/N: 99HEJ035-00 F (behind battery - might tell us what build/revision it is)

Caused by: Bluetooth/Wifi/Talktime
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] PJ6363:
Toasty, Warm, Hot, Melting?!?!

I've found that if you use any of these devices that they will get "WARM" to touch, and I've had a few......the question is: does it get "HOT", where hot is abnormal and potentially bordering on possible failure!!

If your device is getting HOT (read somewhere that it was too hot to handle! :eek:) then it should be returned asap for Warranty service, or perhaps even replacement.

I used to use my Kaiser for in car GPS travelling and it used to get intensely "HOT" whilst operating, AND with the sun beating in through the windscreen on to the device.....so hot that it still worked, though it refused to take on a charge whilst plugged in (once cooled down a bit, back to normal). I put up with this as it was beyond warranty, BUT if it was still within warranty I would have returned for service or replacement.

These devices are not designed to get HOT (see some of the replys from folk who contacted HTC!!)...if it does contact HTC and submit it as an issue!!

BTW, my new Diamond

does not get hot

, but it does get warm over the processor when working GPS, or anything else thats CPU intensive...

Hope this helps!
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General] HTCzar:
My first diamond used to get really hot under the battery. I found that abnormal and trade it for a new one in the store.

My new one only gets warm, and I´ve noticed that battery life is much better now, it used to last only a day, now I use my Diamon for 2 days before battery drain