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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kolyan:
Its priced right lol? Phone has all last year specs, it should be priced half that. Even iphone 11 is cheaper. And with Samsung tradeins and freebies you basically get Note 10 for free ))

They are using bare minimum for RAM which didn't work for Pixel 3, they are using battery that's smaller then in Pixel 3 which wasn't good to begin with, the quality of screen still behind Samsung, bare minimum 64Gb storage that's UFS 2.1 (Samsung and OnePlus using 3.0 already), no wide angle cam that most people want, video quality is below everyone else, they removed free Google Photos uploads (iphone and Samsung can actually upload original quality for free, not P4), P4 also uses last years Gorilla 5, all phones use 6 now, Soli is just a gimmick and nothing that they showed us before (Google also confirmed that it will never work like in demo because radar is too small). I am probably missing something :)....charging speed is slow too compared to others.

Ps. I had all Google phones since N1 and got Note 10 this year. Well with 3500mah battery I get 7-8 SOT, so that's already more then Pixex 4XL with bigger battery.... talking about software optimizations
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kolyan:
Except that I paid $350 for 256GB Note 10 after Pixel 3 tradein. And it came with free screen protector, free premium headphones, free fast wireless charger, fast car charger, and premium case. Now when you compare that to Google, its pricing and tradein program is crap
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettinwicked:
While you are right with the Google store trade-in, you are NOT right with pricing and whatever with one of the big 4. Verizon had a buy one, get one free. And if you didn't want to do that, $450 off a pixel 4xl. That's WITHOUT trading in your device.

Check out Verizon's page now. The initial discounts have changed, but there are these: $300 off, $400 if you upgrade your phone to a 4xl. If you are a new customer, up to $750 off, WITHOUT a trade-in and you get an echo dot and amazon smart plug. And the phone has only been out a couple weeks. Once it's out longer, the trade-in will go up. So yeah, there's that.

Google trade in IS a joke. Trading in the pixel 1xl, people were getting $430 or so. My pxel 2xl, they offered $350. The 3xl $230. Yeah, they are definitely low balling on that. I have mine up for sale on a couple places for much more.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kolyan:
Carrier deals are on contract and/or apply account credit over 2 years. I was talking about unlocked phone without any carrier. I am on Google Fi.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettinwicked:
Google definitely doesn't have any deals right off the bat. But, they will have good ones for black Friday/etc, then off and on after that you'll see like $300 off (no trade in).
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
Understandable, it is all a matter of opinion. I don't find anything feels like plastic to me and love the way it feels. Hardware and software.

I think it is worth the price. I would buy my 4XL for $1000 again even if the Note 10 was on sale for $500. (coming from a note 10) because the under display FP sensor for me was awful and no phone at any price is worth the frustration. I want to pay for the pleasant experience..which I get with Pixel...not to mention I'll be able to run Android 11 a year before that Note 10. LOL So, all the reviewers can hate all they want on Pixel/Google, I'm loving my 4XL. Best Android phone I've owned yet and I've owned many this year. (Note 10, OP 7T, iPhone 11 Pro, Mate 30, to name a few)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
Exaggerations at its finest.

My job would suffer if I was on phone for a SOT at 7-8 hours...LOL But I can get 4-5 for sure, which is all I ever really need.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Combonary:
This phone is clean! [emoji1786]

Silky smooth
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
My Pixel 4 XL review...

Enjoyed my phone all day. Pretty much describes yesterday. I expect tomorrow I'll enjoy it all day again. The end.

... Wait a minute; if I start a Youtube channel no one will click on that. Not sure what I'd put in the video but I know the title... THE BRUTALLY HONEST TRUTH ABOUT WHY THE PIXEL 4 SUCKS DONKEY BALLS!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wumboisms:
I like it so far. Camera is amazing as always, and the led is extreme bright
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LimitsX:
pixel 4 xl bends easily. It has the worst structural integrity than iphone 6. The price of pixel 4 xl, it should be at least competitive. It is truly the worse phone. And i own pixel 3 xl, i wanted to get 4, but not anymore.

Google is trying so hard to copy iphone, but they get "all answers wrong" at the end lol.

idk why some people can defend and argue for p4, when facts say so otherwise. Even midrange phones are better than this lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
And you are bending your phone...why??? I don't put it it my back pocket and sit on it...that would be dangerous with any phone. I've seen many iPhones crack from that...just not smart. They are slabs of glass and fragile no matter what test you show me.

I have owned the Note 10, OP 7T, iPhone 11 pro, Pixel 3XL and a few more this year. Pixel 4XL is by far my favorite and I'll be keeping it until next year when the new batch of phones come out and I'll try them too.

Obviously you have not used this phone at all or for you daily phone. It is by far not a mid-range phone (with that reasoning your 3XL is less than mid-range). Specs are not only one aspect of a good phone just like megapixels don't tell the whole story.

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Another example is the screen brightness. On paper it seems really dim however, I do not struggle whatsoever with it in sunlight. Unlike my 3XL that I could hardly see. Brightness is not much higher on 4XL but like I said, I have no issues in bright sunlight. Strange. Not sure if it is the difference in refresh rate but the screen is phenomenal.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kolyan:
As far as Google Photos uploads, it's true because both Apple and Samsung upload photos in original format that's higher efficiency then what Google is using for "high quality". Pixel cant save images in that format
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jmartin72:
What I don't get is why everyone puts so much stock in YouTubers reviews, and takes them for gospel. I have a brilliant idea, why not go to a carrier store, or a Best Buy, and check them out for yourself, and see if it may be something you may want. Don't rely on YouTubers, and tech reviewers to tell you what you want or don't want. Who says these people are even experts at anything? I don't know why anyone would put so much stock in their opinion. That's all it is, one persons opinion. Why not just take their opinion with several pounds of salt, and make up your own mind.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
YouTubers aren't exactly nobodies though. They get to use any and all the top devices out there. They did exactly what you're saying in trying out a phone for a week or two and form their thoughts. They can tell the difference between a poor, okay, and great device. Now was it a little exaggerated how "bad" the phone is? Yes for sure. It's a very good device at a very poor pricing point.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Interesting thing I read about the display on displaymate is it rated one of the lowest they've seen for reflections on the screen, maybe that has something to do with it

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Your just sounding like a troll now. And no it's not worse. The iPhone 6 bent in people's pockets etc ...that's different. The pixel bent cause some beefy guy purposely tried to bend it
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wolfeyes30:
Buy a pouch or holster. No bending. I'm amazed at how many folks carry phones in their pockets. Never have and never will it's the worse possible place for it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] LimitsX:
What are you talking about? Troll how? Why are you so offended? It is

worse

. Why can't any criticism of a device that you love (like others) will start calling others troll and other name calling. Please grow up and be respectful.

Iphone did not bend because of pockets, it had a weak structure, which apple corrected in iphone 6S. Pixel 4XL is worse than that. Just a tiny bit of push, cracks it. Really crappy display lol.

Pixel 3 XL has better build quality.

I don't understand how people like you, can defend an OEM. Do you grow money on a tree?

They (Google) don't even supply any headphones, nor 3.5 mm usb C to headphone connector. They have the worse quality control since nexus days, and now they are charging premium price?? At least Samsung and Apple devices have good build quality now. Mid-range phones don't bend easily lol.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Because it's not going to bend in daily use..a guy purposely tried to bend it, big deal

You sound like a troll, you don't even have the phone yet you go around saying it's rubbish etc. On your bike
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
I stopped using pouches/holsters after my Treo 755 and never going back. It's perfectly fine in a front pocket and is a cleaner look. Why's it the worst place?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pkmoazzam:
Dude, you just came and bashing about how worse it is without having a pixel and yeah, you are totally troll, Right? Obviously. And yes iPhone 6 plus was bended even though it was not in my back pocket. Yes I "OWNED" iPhone 6 plus. Lol

And now I "OWN" pixel 4 xl so I can tell my opinions are

that pixel 4 xl is the best smartphone of all., Gotta love camera, battery is great. Display is beautiful. It feels great., So luxury. :)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xFirefly93:
Say no more, but the Google Pixel 4 (XL) line-up is insanely good on the whole battery life frontline! :highfive:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] DumbleCore:
All over I saw negative reviews, still see em, didn't care and got mine yesterday and its an impressive phone and Google/android experience, exactly what I wanted.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mgymnop:
Why annoyed? Most of them are correct. My mind is still clear because I am not a Google fanboy and don't by Goolge because it's Google. I have zero brand loyalty and when a Google releases a ****ty phone I stay away. Read the Anantech review and you know you get a ****ty mediocre phone for a premium price. I have a Pixel 3 XL and that was already mediocre. The 4 XL has too many compromises that I am not willing to accept for this price. For 600 bucks OK but not for 1000.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] storm18r:
Same here came from s10+ and got 4xl couldn't be happier.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bigv5150:
My 2 cents this is a really good phone great display awesome camera. I have good battery life I work 12 hr shifts and am on my phone during that shift quite a bit and I never have to charge at work. Is it worth 900 hell no I got the Verizon deal and paid 450 with my pixel XL trade in. Wait a minute is a Samsung or apple worth 900 to 1000 hell no. Non of these phones are IMHO. Google will fix the minor issues they already pushed a 90 hz fix. I advised Google the new assistant needs some work. You can't say ok Google call home on speakerphone. It won't turn on speakerphone. Old assistant does but you have to use 3 button for that. They are looking into it but said they know it has issues it's new. I will say I am not happy with how easily it broke. Not saying this is going to ever happen but it is scary have to be careful. Sitting on it if left on a couch or bed could cause an issue. Over all I am happy with the phone 2 guys at work are going to pick it up for black friday.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Sending mine back. Screen green tint issue is crap
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
And you will then have what? Your Sammy or OnePlus? lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
That's the thing. There isn't much else. Maybe the 7t. I'm not bashing pixel always loved pixel phones. And the 4 is decent and I would be happy but the green tint issue is a joke
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Do you root? You can pretty much fix that if you do :confused:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MicroMod777:
Well had to find out what all the hype was about for the 7T at my local T-Mobile. It felt and looked cheap compared to the Pixel 4 XL.

I'll be picking up the Pixel 4 XL again for Black Friday for $699.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
+ 1

Same Black Friday
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Which is all well and good but if you get a crap screen like mine that doesn't mean anything ?

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Yeah I have rooted and it doesn't fix it
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] MicroMod777:
Well the one I had returned from pre-order was slight warm yellow, but not green. You have pic of that?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Not ATM. It's horrible. Not too bad in higher brightness, a bit of a green warmer hue. But once it gets dimmer it's horrible, it's either green or purple and over contrasty . Terrible banding in low brightness too. So far the screen on the OnePlus 7 pro was a lot better compared
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Seriously what are you on about, I'm a Google fan but sent the 4xl back because the screen is shocking lol, i got an s10+ it's way more pleasing to look at than the 4xl screen, if you have a friend who has go take a look.

And as for price that's absolutely trash talking. I paid £829 for the 4 XL and £799 for the s10+ i replaced it with, 128gb storage and 8gb of ram so this statement is garbage go shop around.

While hardware specs don't mean to much to me what does is that 64gb should not exist anymore and again it should have had 8gb system ram, Android apps are getting hungry these days and we just don't have enough system ram with 6gb what people don't realise is that even with 8gb a chunk of that is reserved for the OS etc so it's not fully useable.

Now the real users are getting them in their hands you can clearly see Google are having display issues yet again way more than other manufacturers, so what it's a Samsung screen what does that prove? Why don't you do a search regarding pleasing manufacturers differently with what quality screens LG and Samsung give certain manufacturers it's not difficult to find.

I still have a 4 XL here because Google's support system is ****ing shocking and I'm still waiting for the 2nd return label nearly 10 days later because they are incompetent, already passed on to my credit card company that they are taking so long about it, i never thought Google support was so bad, it's all rosy when you don't have issues but god forbid when you have to deal with their support system.

And yes the screen is terrible, I can't believe the screen after what i was reading before i pre ordered, take a look, even the text is blurry and yellow compared to my s10+ whoever thinks the 4xl screen is better really need to take stock clearly.

https://flic.kr/p/2hABYA1
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Curious but what color mode were each phone's set to when taking the pic?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nds850:
I think at least some of the reviews are correct. The missing ultrawide camera, small battery, dim display, "old" design and overall build quality are not OK for the price.

I come from a Note10+ and 11 Pro Max and hardware wise those phones are way ahead. But with that being said the Pixel 4 XL is still my favourite phone ever thanks to the software and I plan to keep it.

Stock Android on the Pixel is so smooth and a joy to use. I also prefer the images from the Pixel compared to the iPhone and Samsung.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
S10+ vivid default colour profile ie in the middle of warm and cool and the 4xl ambient eq was off and i tried all 3 colour saturation options but that pic was set to boosted, the replacement i still have here is actually slightly worse than the original still boxed up waiting for a return label from Google.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Okay I ask because the S10+ set to vivid is going to be a cooler white than either of the settings for the Pixel 4 XL even with your setting of the middle of warm and cool. So in a side by side comparison, the Pixel 4 XL is going to look more yellow. Yes I understand you don't agree with DisplayMate and maybe it's not the end all of screen reviews but they do show measurable differences. As did Android Authority's measurement: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-4-display-1050174/

You don't have to agree with either of their screen reviews but the numbers don't lie. You can have a personal preference for Samsung's and that's fine. I still think it's the best screen on a Pixel yet especially coming from a Pixel 2 XL.View attachment 4872401View attachment 4872403
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
It actually isn't it goes similar yellow to the 4xl when the s10 is set to natural with vivid it's cool white.

It's probably all Google needed to do was add personal colour profiles for different people's tastes, it all comes down again to them being too basic unfortunately. They're getting a bit too Apple orientated for my liking. It is unfortunate as if it hadn't been for that i would have kept it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Yes it goes similar yellow when set to natural because that's the setting it's closest to 6500k. So in your photo, you said it was to vivid so it is going to make the closer to 6500k Pixel 4 XL appear yellow.

Google's never had personal color profiles so I'm not surprised. But just because it doesn't have such a option doesn't make the screen terrible. You have a preference that's just not what the screen is calibrated for.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Rajaasim1980:
Why its hard for people to accept different opinions of others . You are free to love pixel 4 Xl while others are free to criticise it

Pixel 4 XL disappointment

1) overpriced and not much improvement from Pixel 3/3xl and Pixel 2/2xl

2)Build quality is not good and it did not survive bending test of Jerryrigeverything

3)Storage is again just 64GB for base models when all others top brands (even most midrange) offering 128GB

4)battery life is again average and its poor for regular pixel 4

5) screen is not best

6) compare camera with Pixel 2 xl and you will hardly see any improvement

7) google removed unlimted photo storage at original quality

speaker, IP ratings, still camera and stock software is great just like previous generation
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] scoonie:
As long as you're happy, who cares what others think. Everything has its pros and cons. No phone is perfect. Even the iPhone 11 has some negative reviews. Remember this, you can't please everybody....
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Imo it is terrible the way it is calibrated but yes that doesn't mean it is bad it's rather annoying that while every other smartphone on the market is customisable pixels are not, they really are stuck in the past, again I love pixels and love my 2xl and the s10+ but again if they wanted to reach a wider audience they should allow people to customise the colour to their own preference and not a stick or dump it attitude because ultimately they are losing sales because of it no matter what people say whether they agree or disagree i know for a fact 3 people in my close family will not purchase it because of the yellow screen, fingers crossed there is a pixel 5 next year and they start to make a product based on customer feedback.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gettinwicked:
Wow... Go you for attacking ME for my review. Congrats!

First things first:

Pixel 4xl 128GB

https://store.google.com/config/pixel_4

Samsung S10+

https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-s10/buy/

BOTH are $1000. So you found a deal, good for you. In the US they are both the same price.

I will say that there should be a 256GB storage option. A lot of folks really want it. For me, 64GB is plenty sufficient. I'd rather pay $50-100 less for the smaller storage personally.

Now the 6GB v. the 8. I've been working in IT for YEARS, and I will tell you that RAM doesn't necessarily matter as much v. the OS efficiency. Yes, for the same price, Google could have just put 8GB in there, but, I honestly don't care that they didn't. I have NEVER ran into any problems running several apps on this phone, nor the 3xl I had prior with only 4GB.

And the screen. Mine looks great. I've had Samsung phones, I've seen the screens on the S10's and Notes. They are really nice. And so is the one on this phone. Even the 3xl's was very good. The 2xl's sucked though. Anyway, the my 4xl's screen looks amazing. Just because you don't like it for whatever reason does NOT make you right and me or any one of the many folks who bought one wrong. As for screen issues, ALL phones will have problems at launch. Read that again, ALL PHONES. There were tons of issues with the S7 edge's at launch. The battery life was total sheet. The screen was pink or yellow depending on how you looked at it. Later batches fixed it somewhat. For those who got 4's with whatever screen tint, Google will send out replacements, and if it's widespread, they will fix the issue at the manufacturing level. Just like they did with the 2xl blue tint issue (for the most part).

As for Google support, they had ALWAYS been amazing in my experience. 10 days for a shipping label? It comes in an email. It's never taken more than an hour or two to get it. If you haven't gotten it yet, you should probably contact them. But, they have always fixed whatever with zero issue. Any issues with a phone, they send me a new one, no questions asked. And it takes a day to get here because they ship it priority.

Don't like the phone? Cool, you don't have to. Go buy a One+ or Samsung. That's your choice. Don't talk trash on others who made OUR choices to buy this phone. And who like it.

Have a nice day..
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] yyz71:
And you have this device? Or you went into best buy and played with it for a bit..