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[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Pro Questions & Answers] David Ningthoujam:
I've found many devs creating many custom boot logos for other devices but is there any one for Redmi 6 pro?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerBytes:
Here is a screenshot from the Developer options. Now we know.

Time to wait to see if we can unlock this bad boy unofficially. The wait begins.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jruizdesign:
Ya T-Mobile also
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroKool76:
Again, unless I'm completely off, it makes perfect sense that that switch is disabled. Until you fully pay for the device, I wouldn't allow it either. It may still not work, but that certainly explains why it doesn't, now. Carrier lock = sim lock. Unlock the sim, you unlock the carrier. No carrier lock, voila.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerBytes:
This for Bootloader unlocking, not carrier unlocking.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gfrearick:
I remember my Nexus 6 on at&t had a unlocked bootloader
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Zero is right, the OEM unlock switch will be grayed out on most carrier locked devices irregardless of whether the bootloader can be unlocked until the carried lock is removed.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
It's ATT. Did you really expect it to be unlocked?

Pay it off. Get sim unlock. Get bootloader unlock.

I'll have mine paid off in less than a month. Then we will know.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerBytes:
I'm waiting at least a month before I pay it off then I'll do the same.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] tbtaf:
Just a thought, pull your sim, factory reset and see if it will let you unlock. Then put your sim back in. Also, there is options to root even when locked on the Verizon model, I would think it would work on ATT. FWIW.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] KillerBytes:
Tell me more about this other option to root with a locked bootloader
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news - BUT, ATT, TMOBILE and VERIZON all have LOCKED Bootloaders - they will not be unlocked when you pay it off. Period. Won't happen. Don't get your hopes up.

The Only hope (however slim) is for someone to figure out a way to do it with custom code - but frankly that has not been done on an ATT Phone in YEARS - I don't expect it will happen ever.

I wish this wasn't true, but you can take it the bank, the bootloader on those phones is locked tight and are going to stay that way for a long time.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Ok, but TMobile users have already had theirs unlocked, and Verizon as well. So you info is incorrect. I have insides at ATT. We will see soon enough, and if not oh well. I enjoy the phone how it is. It's great for me
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] nima0003:
That's cap, someone unlocked their T-Mobile one
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
not their bootloaders..not that i am aware of ...

i could be wrong. of course...let me know which tmobile phone you are talking about. id be interested in finding out more...if they are in fact unlocked...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Yes, bootloader. They contacted and got sim unlocked, and was able to bootloader unlock.

I'm 99% sure once you sim unlock, you'll be able to bootloader unlock on the ATT one. Because it says, not available on carrier locked devices. Once it's not carrier locked, you can unlock.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
my appologies, i was given bad info. i was told by someone who has been around a lot longer than I that they were locked just like Samsung devices. I am glad to hear i was wrong.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] srimay:
Yes even OnePlus devices sold by t mobile we're unlockable once a Sim unlock was granted, either by paying off or using a traveling excuse for Sim unlock
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
I don't think that will work since that lock is probably part of custom software from AT&T. As soon as you put the SIM back in it will either automatically download that software or tell you there is an update (that would be custom from AT&T). If it's the second case then you could not install the update but since every update after that would be the same situation you'd never be able to update.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Custom software? No. This is the stock Google image with 3 att apps installed once you boot with an ATT sim card.

And no it won't be like that. After unlocking the bootloader you can flash the Google image. And you'd never have ATT attached to the phone again.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mew1033:
So have we seen anyone who has SIM-unlocked their AT&T device and then successfully unlocked the bootloader?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Even if you do manually flash the stock Google image there is nothing that would prevent the custom AT&T image from coming down in an update again.

Booting with an AT&T SIM would do more than just install a few AT&T apps which you likely can't remove (or would get reinstalled if you did). There is a custom AT&T image even if you buy from Google.

Check out this video.

https://youtu.be/un0Do7amve4

If you notice in the video the status bar shows the data connection at "5GE" which isn't a real thing. It's an AT&T marketing term that it uses to make the network appear better than it is.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5ge-explained,news-29329.html

That icon in the status bar is shown by the OS. Showing an AT&T marketing term instead of just LTE or 4G means it is a custom image from AT&T. The stock Google image wouldn't have that.

I asked the guy in the video comments where he got the phone (Google store or AT&T) and he said he bought it from Google. After starting up an AT&T SIM it probably had an update right away. That update was AT&T specific and contained the code to show 5GE, some AT&T specific apps (likely as system apps which can't be uninstalled) and who knows what else. And if it's anything like the Nexus 6 the updates will be handled by AT&T which defeats one of the main purposes of having a Google phone....fast updates.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Dude. I have the phone from ATT. Booting with the ATT sim didn't install any custom software. It installed 3 user removable apps.

I'm very much aware what 5Ge is. It's exists in all pixels. Putting an ATT sim in an unlocked one will download the same apps and give you the same status bar 5Ge.

Again THERE IS NO SPECIFIC UPDATE FROM ATT. Not quite sure how hard this is to understand. And on to of that you can side load the factory image for updates.

Getting the phone from ATT simply allows the IMEI to be in ATTs system for HD calling and WiFi calling.

I'm not sure who had this is to understand. Or why you persist in arguing with my when I've seen BOTH. But I'm done. I know what happens. I've seen it. And all your assumptions are completely and entirely wrong.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
And just to add, upon initial boot, when you get to the point to configure font, apps, etc. if you go into the additional apps section, you can choose to not even install the AT&T apps in the first place.

As for 5Ge, it comes with carrier services, not the entire system images/updates. It also happens on iPhones and those certainly don't get any updates from AT&T.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] theblizzard2010:
I'd like to see how that would actually work - the phone does not prompt for an unlock code when you insert say a Verizon SIM into it. It just displays a message at the top suggesting you contact AT&T for assistant because your SIM is basically invalid.

This is not your typical procedure, maybe it's Pixel specific? I've not encountered it before - smells like Apple procedures to get this thing unlocked, which means only AT&T could do it, eliminating 3rd party abilities...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Why would Google include AT&T specific code on all Pixels? Even ones that won't ever be used on AT&T. That doesn't even make sense. What you are saying is that Pixels that are running on Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint and even carriers across the world are running builds with AT&T specific code. That's also how AT&T could make it so that the bootloader can't be unlocked when running on AT&T.

Many Pixel 4 owners have mentioned getting an update right after setting up their phones. It wouldn't say it was an AT&T specific update. It would just look like a regular update but it would actually be AT&T specific. Most people wouldn't even know.

Take two Pixel 4s that are fully caught up on updates both from Google. One running on AT&T and one that has never been used on AT&T and compare the build numbers. They will be different.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dratsablive:
I purchased my 4 XL from Google and booted with an AT&T sim. The only AT&T apps is one app that I had installed on previous pixels to pay my bill from.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
I'm done with this conversation you think what you want. I'll do what I know is correct.

Also, no the build number aren't different. I've already compared. SMH.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cpetersen2791:
All I want to know is...When Google drops software updates on the 1st Monday of the month, will I be able to download it straight from Google, and flash it instead of waiting for the OTA update?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ilal2ielli:
Yes.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
Yes, if you have an unlocked bootloader you can flash images as soon as they are posted.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cpetersen2791:
So which is it? ATT has a locked bootloader??
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ilal2ielli:
AT&T has a locked bootloader, but flashing an OTA does not require a bootloader to be unlocked.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
If you bought an AT&T branded Pixel, the bootloader is locked.

If the bootloader is locked, you cannot flash a factory image.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cpetersen2791:
So you can only flash OTA's. Does that sound correct? My forward thinking is when Android 11 Beta comes out, and going back and forth w/ a locked bootloader.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
Correct, you can only use OTA zip files.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cpetersen2791:
thanks for the clarification. Will make a difference whether I buy an unlocked one, and burn my upgrade.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
You may wish to get in touch with AT&T, as you could theoretically purchase one from them using an upgrade discount, pay it off, then have it SIM unlocked, which should then allow you to unlock the bootloader.

If you don't want any hassle, I'd suggest getting an unlocked one straight away., especially if you plan on going back and forth between beta/stable without an unlockable bootloader. If there is ever an issue (rare, but does happen) you can brick the phone without any way to recover it, other than RMA.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sic0048:
You can download and sideload factory OTA images from Google on a phone with a locked bootloader. For images and directions, check out Google's site.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hamlock Maneuver:
This is absolutely false information. AT&T are very clear about not allowing unlockable bootloaders. They will simply not sell a phone like this anymore. Unlocking the sim has NOTHING to do with an unlockable bootloader. They either come that way or they don't. The sim lock is simply to allow certain frequencies from the radio in your phone to be used during operation. Not all carriers use the same frequencies. hence it would be a waste of battery to keep those unused frequencies active. All of this is common knowledge that anyone has access to.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Edit, not relevant
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Where do you get your information?

What I have been told, by people higher up at ATT, once the phone is paid off and sim unlocked, OEM unlocking is available, because the phone is not tied to ATT anymore.

So unless you have PROOF. You are giving false information.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
I think that last comment goes both ways doesn't it ?

It would be great to hear from someone who has an ATT Pixel 4XL that they purchased outright or paid off - who can show that ATT Did in fact unlock their sim and subsequent to that, their bootloader also was unlocked. I have never seen evidence of it - and frankly have been told by others who know more than I that the Bootloader is locked on ALL att devices.

So - does anyone own an ATT Pixel 4 who can call to get their SIM UNLOCKED and then show us the Bootloader is also unlocked when that happens? I would love to know.....
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
I just want to make sure I understand you correctly. You are saying that base Pixel 4 builds directly from Google have AT&T specific code that goes to every Pixel owner regardless of the network they are on? Is that what you are saying? That seems very strange if that is the case.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AT&T SPECIFIC CODE. Holy crap. I dont even know where you got that? There are 3 pixel builds on Google's site.

There is a .007 for Google specific, .011 for FI, and .011.C4 for ALL carrier builds. Depending the specific carrier, would show what ever icon's needed. Apps are downloaded based off sim card.

Please don't reply again. There is nothing more to be said.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
If there is no AT&T specific code then why do Pixel 4 phones running on AT&T show 5GE as the data network type? 5GE isn't a real thing. It's an AT&T marketing term (that is actually very misleading) that only shows on phones running on AT&T. Since 5GE is an AT&T only thing there MUST be code somewhere that says "if carrier is AT&T show 5GE icon". That would be code specific to AT&T. That code would be executed instead of the base case that would show the standard icon for 4G. So, any phone that is showing the 5GE icon MUST have AT&T specific code.

What is the difference between .007 and .011.C4? Which phones get which builds? Is the code to show "5GE" if it's AT&T in both of those builds? If .007 is the build on Pixels bought directly from Google then either the code to show the 5GE icon on AT&T is in that build or at some point the phone is switched from .007 to .011.C4.

As far as apps being installed due to SIM card I'm curious where that check is done. Does that only happen if you have the AT&T SIM card installed during phone set up? Also, just curious, what three AT&T apps are installed?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ilal2ielli:
The build is not changed. Carrier Services is the "carrier specific" code you keep mentioning. iPhones have the same thing happen when they update iOS versions, except there's has a pop-up when you update to a new version letting you know carrier settings were updated.

It's just a way for the phones to have the carrier specific settings and icons (such as 5Ge show up, just like AT&T used to label 3G+ as LTE).

The three optional apps it requests to install are AT&T's Call Protect and two others I don't remember, because they are completely optional. And even if you install them when it asks, you can uninstall them like any other Google Play Store non-system app.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] antiochasylum:
Good God Dude, this is like beating a dead horse, OVER and OVER. The 5Ge is Simply an ICON in the systemUI. When you are running an ATT sim card, and are in the 5Ge range, it would display, based off sim card, carrier services, carrier provisioning. I have an ATT pixel, and I have yet to see 5Ge, it always shows LTE.

Why are you asking me what the difference is? I don't work for Google. You go download the builds, de-compile them and report back.

That check is done on first boot. The setup is strictly a pixel setup. There is nothing different in the initial setup, aside from the ATT sim card in my phone. Which Google allows carriers to trigger apps to download from the play store, based off sim card with matching certificates. Here, educate yourself.

https://source.android.com/devices/tech/config/carrier
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
For educational purposes only ;) See attached for 5Ge icon.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Wow. You don't understand how programming works do you?

"The 5Ge is Simply an ICON"

Yeah, no ****.

"When you are running an ATT sim card, and are in the 5Ge range, it would display,"

Again, no ****.

There still has to be CODE that checks if it's AT&T and if that condition is TRUE THEN set that icon to the 5GE icon (which is specific to AT&T). Code that shows an AT&T ICON is AT&T SPECIFIC CODE. Regardless of where that code is (apparently Carrier Services has all the carrier code according to another comment that ACTUALLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION) it is CARRIER SPECIFIC CODE THAT EXISTS SOMEWHERE. That code is either provided to EVERYONE and is just unused on phones that doesn't use AT&T. That is either done by a special OS build or apparently carrier services. I'm still a little curious if it's the same carrier services for all carriers or if carrier services has different versions for different carriers.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ilal2ielli:
It doesn't really matter, but it's probably the same for every carrier. It's only 19.48 MB according to the phone's apps section.

Icons and small prop files don't take up that much space.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Yeah, I know it's not big. It's more curiosity. The only downside would have been if it was carrier specific builds because it could slow down updates. That's what happened when AT&T sold the Nexus 6.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Hamlock Maneuver:
Antiochasylum.

If it's so hard to believe and you are absolutely sure about your claims. Then do all these confused people a favor. Go out and pick up a pixel 4 from AT&T pay it off and let us all see how wrong we are. It's funny how you have the title as recognised contributer. I'm curious how that happened.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] srimay:
I remember back when I had the Samsung Galaxy S4, before Knox I believe, and it was easier to unlock and root a carrier phone (T-Mobile). And all you had to do was change the build number in build prop with an editor, and the data signal would change to whatever carrier you made the change for. So I guess you could say the code was in there for all 3 us carriers plus the international version which used the standard AOSP lte icon
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
Galaxy S4 is when Att started locking down their phones as tight as a drum. Samsung phones anyway. I remember it well - someone discovered an exploit to unlock that phone after it's initial release - then ATT Patched the exploit and the phone could not be unlocked after that.

I always assumed ATT locked allof their other phones too - but I guess I could be wrong. (although I don't know of anyone who who owns a later model phone from ATT that does have an unlocked bootloader. I have not heard of one - but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I just haven't heard of any and wasn't aware that ATT actually allowed bootloaders to be unlocked.)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Just a couple things gents: they all have grayed out OEM unlock switches until they connect to the internet. You can buy the vanilla unnlocked phone direct from Google and if you don't put your sim in or connect it to wifi OEM unlock will be grayed out. That will not change until you give it an internet connection, it must contact the mater overlords before you can have OEM unlock. As to OEM unlock you will not know for sure until someone has a SIM unlocked phone. Based on AT&T's recent unlocking policies I'm not exactly sanguine about your chances but it is certain nothing is proven until someone gets there. Going back to the first point keep in mind the phone must contact the master overlords thing and can always deny OEM unlocking because it can always be tied to the IMIE rather than the ROM flashed, it doesn't have to be that way but it can be that way. Just depends on the device and the carrier. Samsung has been doing the master overlord contact for years and Google and others do it now as well. There is no sure answer until you prove it out one way or another.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Supermade:
You wouldn't allow it either? You're an idiot.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Christopher Price:
Let’s get this conversation back on track. What we need is someone with an AT&T-locked Pixel 4 (XL) to submit a SIM unlock request and then reboot the device and go back to Developer Options.

Until someone verifies their device is subsidy unlocked with att.com/deviceunlock- then we don’t have the final answer yet.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] datrmon:
I am patiently waiting for the first person to request for sim unlock code from AT&T. Since I cant unlock mine.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] smitty152:
I submitted a unlock request to AT&T for my phone it was approved. I am military so they allow us to unlock our phones regardless of if it's on a payment plan. I was able to unlock my bootloader
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] datrmon:
Did you receive an unlock code or it was an over the air activation from AT&T.