yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] dev>null:
It should be safe, but make a backup of /vendor/etc/mixer_path_tasha.xml ... just in case ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] nayre032:
All 3 System navigation options doesn't work, gesture navigation, 2-button and 3- button navigation. It practically does nothing.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
I read (I don't remember where, another ROM) that to work those you have to enable the on-screen buttons with a magisk module
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] maximorus00:
Works fine here. All 3 options work good.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Did the back gesture work?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] maximorus00:
Sorry for incorrect answer. Back gesture doesn't work.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
New gemini build (20191121) is up. I've updated loads of driver blobs, including vulkan, thermal and performance blobs. Performance on lithium is amazing, I would expect gemini to be similar. I've attached a pic of lithium Antutu results.

https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=301695

Double tap to wake has been removed from options, as the ROM devs are bringing in screen off gestures. Some of the devs in the official channel say that some of these gestures don't work on Xiaomi devices due to kernel incompatibilities, I havent had a chance to look in to it yet. I'll update if I can port these across.

As for as gesture navigation, I have no problem with selecting between 3 button, 2 button and swipe navigation. All working properly here.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Hakikidaredevil:
Thanks you so much for spending your time n effort for mi5. My only issue is pressing the home button doesn't wakes up the screen. Can u implement this feature to the rom?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Dark Side84:
Wow, thank you bro for your care to Gemini.:good::good::good:
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] nayre032:
Maybe its probably because this ROM is simply imported from mi mix which explain why u dont experience the problem? Idk. The system nav has a very weird interaction. It kinda works but has a bit of querk. All 3 system gesture doesn't have navigation bar but the specific animation and interaction works (swiping etc.). Q gesture doesn't have back gesture.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] 落笔成酌:
oh I know this

it's because you didn't enable virtual keys after system update

edit build.prop or use some Apps to enable it then you will have fully functional gestures

do this after every update :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Gvasilhs68:
Thanks so much for your job.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Kikatdroid:
great news ! thank you for your work

Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
Updated, everything seems ok, thanks

Do any of you use root with this rom? Works well? If possible indicate which supersu files to use, thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] jons99:
root works very good use magisk - https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
Ok it worked. I installed magisk and with Root Explorer I modified the ".prop" file adding this: "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0"

And after the restart the gestures work in full
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Wow thanks guys. Works like charm.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] maximorus00:
Does update from prev havoc 3.0 work well? Or clean install recommended?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Thanks! Manage to fix the gesture problem thanks to community's reply. Btw, is possible to do a dirty flash on this?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] caralampio20:
excellent those were the gestures I wanted to have, since I tried them in official havoc 2.9 I was delighted, thank you very much the rom works wonders.

Enviado desde mi MI 5 mediante Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
Thanks for the feedback, lithium doesn't have hardware keys so "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" is already in the device tree. That's probably why I have no issues there :D

I bet if I add to to the gemini device tree I'll get loads of messages complaining about no way to turn off onscreen nav bar lol

It is also possible to add this without using root. Boot into recovery and make sure system partition is mounted. Connect phone to PC, open a terminal window and type adb shell and then type echo 'qemu.hw.mainkeys=0' >> /system/system/build.prop
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] DilanF98:
I'm having a lot of problems with 3G or WiFi

Play Store doesnt download anything, Telegram works slow

I dont know whats happening

Even I cant upload any logcat here :(
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] dev>null:
Did you clean install it? If coming from another rom/android version, clear cache, dalvik, system, vendor, data.

What gapps are you using?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] DilanF98:
Yes I clean flashed with all wipes

I'm using OpenGApps BETA Nano 2019.11.14
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] caralampio20:
this was my result in antutu

Enviado desde mi MI 5 mediante Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] _CeKoCu_:
Havoc OS 3.0 mi 5/32gb 21.11.2019 rom
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
Very interesting about Antutu results, gemini scores are similar to my lithium Pixel Experience build (attached pic). I do know that the Mi5 standard edition has SD820 and the pro version has SD821, so perhaps that has something to do with it. The hardware specs of the Mi Mix are virtually identical to the Mi5 pro, the main differences being IR blaster on the Mi5 and the weird ultrasonic proximity sensor on the Mix.

Appreciate the feedback, and hopefully it will help me make a better ROM :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] hhanu:
3/64
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] hhanu:
You could make fingerprint button to unlock without entering the password?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
Do you mean wake screen and unlock phone? Does this on lithium, I cant test on gemini as I don;t have the phone.

Or do you mean press home button to wake screen? I did this fix for the capricorn build and can incorporate it into the gemini build.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] hhanu:
I am wondering if I can only touch the home button and wake the screen.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] dev>null:
Settings > Additional buttons > Fingerprint wake up
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] hhanu:
It only works if I set up a fingerprint, I just want to wake up.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Hakikidaredevil:
What about pressing home button to wake up the screen. Seems like I'm the only one who has been using it.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] 3V0LU710N:
Hi [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION], just tested the new rom update and the performance, to put it simply, is really very very good.

My antutu scores jumped from 140k on MIUI 10 to over 170k with your latest release!

In the meanwhile, regarding HW crypto functionality, any news so far?

Also, I'm sending a tip to you [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION]. At least you deserve a beer. :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] rozyid:
DT2W

Use Kernel Auditor on PS ..fix to DT2W
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Gvasilhs68:
Hi, is there any way to lock or unlock screen with double tap on it? Thanks again for the rom:good:

---------- Post added at 09:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 AM ----------

Ok ok sorry for my previous post now i read this.

"Double tap to wake has been removed from options, as the ROM devs are bringing in screen off gestures. Some of the devs in the official channel say that some of these gestures don't work on Xiaomi devices due to kernel incompatibilities, I havent had a chance to look in to it yet. I'll update if I can port these across..."
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] maximorus00:
Hi. Do I need to reinstall Gapps after dirty flash?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
No
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] ManuPax:
This ROM is great!

Only one problem: if i open v4a app, tap yes on installing drivers, then reebot, it boots only in fastboot!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mollashahi66:
Hi,

My Whatss app hangs in this rom, pls help me
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] 3V0LU710N:
Hi [MENTION=10336759]mollashahi66[/MENTION], that is very strange indeed. I am using WhatsApp on my phone and no hangs so far.

Are you facing the issue even after clean up all data and reinstall the app?

Also, did you look at WhatsApp permissions? :)

BR
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Dark Side84:
pls ask in v4a forum
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] ManuPax:
K but i hadn't any issue with los or previous pie havoc!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] jwchips:
Does this rom support device encryption yet?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] rozyid:
v4a app

v4a app not support Havoc 3.0 ...to fix it, uninstall magisk via TWRP, from fatsboot hod power on, after screen off hold vol up to boot twrp.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] siropchik:
Maybe your problem is OpenGapps. Use Bitgapps
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Kikatdroid:
here for my return, I have a problem that seems to me already evoked with the fingerprint scanner that reacts randomly gold unlocking screen! as the home button (physical button) does not allow to take the phone out of its watch.

Thank you for the work on the portage and look forward to a new update!

Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Which los specifically? Los16? If so, both roms you've mention are pie based. Not all apps/ magisk modules support android 10 yet. Better ask the v4a forum/group for assistance.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] affineer:
Great rom. Would love to have it on mi6 too.

I have found one bug while using dark theme. Sometimes text color is almost same as background, so it makes it difficult to read.

Like here
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] ejatamer:
Q : is this rom by default able to use banking apps or telco apps? right now i'm using P.E...atm, the apps does not detect my device as rooted phone. is it the same?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] M3G4:
The rom doesn't root your device. It's just a customised android OS.

Magisk or SuperSU root your phone.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Kikatdroid:
how to prevent rotation of the screen when taking photos with the front sensor? I use Havoc-Os 3.0

Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] ejatamer:
Yes

i know its not rooting my phone, but some rom like syberia, even when i dont root the phone, the apps detect phone as rooted, even some custom miui rom..i dont like it to happen that way as i dont like to use magisk to hide it..
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] hyppykeppi:
Those apps detect unlocked bootloader as root
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] ejatamer:
Is it?

So far using miui eu & pixel experience currently not affected...using those 2 rom neednt me to flash magisk to hide it..
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Any future updates?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shiv4u:
android set up keeps stopping, what would I do???
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
Here is a new update with December security patch. Home button wake should be working now. I've tried everything to get screen off gestures working, but with no luck. Double tap to wake still works if you have root access, use kernel aduitor to turn it on.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=4349826312261660064
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sajan prakash:
Does the back gesture work?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Dark Side84:
Great, thank you bro
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
What is "Account Name Test" in account settings?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] jwchips:
Any word on device encryption support? Last I heard the HALs were missing - is this still the case? Thanks for your work regardless =)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Molt Sirius:
Hello, does anyone know how to completely turn off the ambient display?

I have all options turned off, and this is still activated after the screen is blank.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
There was a fix for this earlier in the thread, I completely forgot to add this to the build. I'll rmember this for the next build :o See this post: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=80977091&postcount=97

I can't see this in options, it may be due to an app you have installed.

Yes the HALs are missing, skullshady hasn't added them to the ROM yet. I got encryption working on my Pixel Experience builds, I could try and port the HALs over from PE.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
I always have the usual apps...If I click on Remove account it tells me that I can't remove it because it is not allowed by the administrator :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] 3V0LU710N:
Thanks [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION]. I'll try the HW encryption build as soon as you have it available! :) For now my only limitation is not being able to use Microsoft Intune Portal, which is trying to enforce phone encryption...

Just another info I did not mention before, on PE for Mi5, there was a first attempt to implement HW crypto... However, in my case I was unable to have it working... (don't know if this can be related, but I was using a PIN code instead of a pattern to boot my phone)

Also, another question: Any ideas about porting kernel 4.4 to this ROM?

Thanks!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] robo-d:
Thank you very much [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION]. This version has a much better fingerprint recognition when waking up the phone. I also like the new additions of customization, the text clock in my language and general performance of the system. If i can keep the previous battery life of your ROM this will be my daily one for months! Great work :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Kikatdroid:
So much for me since the last update the problem of lighting of screen with the button home is totally solved! How does the option "look on screen" I can not activate because I can not give rights to the camera

Thank you for your work [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION]

Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mijorus:
does this rom have an official telegram channel? most of the news for mi5 now come through telegram

Edit: really want to congratulate with the Dev as this ROM is incredibly smooth even in such early stage and without the device in his hands
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Thanks for the new update! Btw is it okey to do it via dirty flash?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mijorus:
Only from Q
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] NoiseMelor:
Microphone always disable I don't know if its only in my device but it's working after reboot I think it's not hardware it's from software
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sajan prakash:
Yes the same happening with me in the PE 10.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mijorus:
Can you describe better?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] NoiseMelor:
When I record voice or someone call me he can't hear me or send a voice message mic will not work after reboot it's work
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
Some apps like Whatsapp, YouTube, Chrome etc get stuck completely for a few seconds and I have to force close... does it happen to someone else?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Hakikidaredevil:
I experienced that a few times too. Specially at Instagram.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mijorus:
Same, idk if that's app repeated or ROM. However seems not a big deal
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
New build with latest changes: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=4349826312261675496

I've added the prop to force on-screen nav bar, this is needed for gesture navigation to work properly.

Havoc-OS v3.0 Changelog 14-12-19:

• Merged AOSP r18 tag

• Added Running Services icon in QS panel

• Added QS footer icon visibility toggles

• Added Warp charging support

• Added more Font size steps

• Added Custom brightness for Ambient display

• Improved Brightness slider layout & design

• Removed forced battery percent on keyguard

• Fixed Bluetooth icon color

• Other fixes and improvements
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] rozyid:
thanks for update bro [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION]

btw how turn off navigation bar, after update alway on display and i find in setting cannot disable it..

thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
Loads of people complained about gesture navigation not working. Did you miss this?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Hakikidaredevil:
yeah but probably 88% of mi5 users uses hardware keys. so it's just a dead screen space if i can't disable navigation bar.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
I actually think it's a bug in the Havoc source, I had to remove the hardware key prop in Pixel Experience to get gestures to work properly. Thing is, the main devs don't seem to be interested in 'legacy' devices. The screen-off gestures broke double tap to wake. The hardware key thing broke gesture navigation. Even the latest r18 merge broke fingerprint, luckily I was able to fix that one. No interest in fixing any of this, as it doesn't affect more 'modern' devices :(

To remove on screen nav bar, either enable gesture navigation or use root and a build.prop editor to set qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] rozyid:
use 3rd app bro.. Hide Navagation Bar Solved,

remove edit build.prop via build.prop editor or Root Explorer still on navigation bar on display.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Inkypen:
For the next build I will integrate this app, then everyone is happy :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Fuzzyflazz:
Thanks dev, for old school user like me, nav bar is useless and annoying when it cant be disable.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mijorus:
Edit out qemu.hw.mainkeys=0 in /vendor/build.prop
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Kikatdroid:
Thank you for the update [MENTION=9382231]Inkypen[/MENTION]

Envoyé de mon MI 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Gvasilhs68:
Thanks again and again for the update. Everything seems fine for me.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] flavarasa:
No vibrate

Hey there no vibrate on hw keys. Setting is on touch vibration. Any suggestion
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] mijorus:
Hi Telegram fellows, with the green light of the Dev, I created a telegram channel for updates to HAVOC 3 by lnkypen

Here is the link:

https://t.me/havoc3gemini

There will be posted updates to the ROM , just to keep you up to date!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Btw. How do you disable capacitive buttons? Using navbar doesnt automatic disable it, and I cant somehow find the option to do so in the setting.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
Just put navigation through gestures and you only see a semitransparent dash that does not bother you
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Thanks but what i need is a cure, not a bandaid to the problem. Also, Im using android 10 full screen gesture as my main way to navigate. What i need is a way to disable the buttons (fully including the LED) in order to avoid accidental touches.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] RoiIam:
found it in QS

Hey, I found out that you can add tile in QS that says HW keys, that disables them and the LED. But u can still use fingerprint to log in. I didn't find this in the settings , only by accident ?. Screenshot: I will upload it on PC, can't do that on my mobile somehow. EDIT:I actually can't cause I have only 3 posts.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Shardana:
Ah, I misunderstood ... then you want the physical buttons not to be enabled, including the LEDs ... then go to the settings, then Configuration center, the buttons:

In "back button" and "overview button" click on "single tap action" then "select custom action" and set "no action"...The same for long press and double tap action.

For leds I remembered there was the setting but I am not finding it ... mine are off
[Xiaomi Mi 5 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sktch032:
Oh thanks! Forgot about it as well. It is located in the quick setting.

No problem and thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gthing:
Does anyone know of a grand central dialer program for windows mobile? The idea being that if you place voip calls from grand central, you can get free calls.

Let's say you have your mobile, a gizmo project account, and a grand central account. Placing outbound calls from your gizmo account (via a SIP application on your phone) will incur charges. However, if you add your gizmo account as a phone number on your grand central profile, and place a call from grand central, it makes outbound calls to both the number you are calling from, and once connected, to the number you're calling out to.

I hope that makes sense.

I have found such a thing for nokia phones here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18802

But couldn't come up with anything for windows mobile. Seems like it wouldn't be a difficult app to write, and could give us all free voip outbound calls.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] el_plebillo:
I have also been looking like crazy for one, it's very annoying to keep going to M.grandcentral.com to dial anybody, even though I set it as my home page...

could somebody make a dialer for Windows mobile,, :o pleazzzee;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebonygirl:
I'm really really in need of one of these. Wish someone would release something!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] h4waii:
Heck, I wish they would re-open the ability to import contacts. I am sure this wouldn't be hard to do, as all the information is right at their mobile page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] moddin:
This windows mobile business is getting old fast, everyones moving to the iphone.

http://lifehacker.com/400099/granddialer-brings-grandcentral-to-your-iphone
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Draiko:
I want a friggin grand central invite! I've had my number reserved for like 4 months now!