yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Kraize:
How's the private beta going so far? Could you tell us what new things you added besides the ones we already knew about? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SatScan:
It's a closed test so far... so don't ask...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Kraize:
Um it's a closed beta...I'm just asking how are things going along. Like is it going as planned? A lot of bugs? Will be released publicly in a few days? etc....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
If you can't/don't want to give feed back thats fine. But I think saying "so dont ask" is a tad rude considering schaps said the testers will give feedback. As if he should have known not to ask. Any testers want to give some impressions? Also, just wondering, is the beta a whole rom, or was it given in binary/cab form?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Kraize:
It's a whole rom. Thus why the title has "ROM" in it. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
this is hillarious...

Its all a scam, its never coming out....:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Kraize:
LOL Do you know what you're saying? You're gonna get flammed really bad unless that was a joke and I didnt get it. It's coming out. People have donated WAY to much. Schaps has put in WAY too much of his time and way too much effort to call it a scam. He would never go through making all those youtube videos if they weren't real.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stuff:
The smiley face at the end gives it away being a joke
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nuusk1s:
nah- it ain't comming, i'm starting to lose my faith too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ljinsane:
hell at this point ..i'm over it...when it comes out IF it comes out...it better be damn good because as of right now it is being overshadowed by all the work being done with manilla2d and manilla3d. We'll probably have a complete Android ROM before this thing comes out:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sd73ta:
He did say that hed release it in october. well hes only got one day left. but i guess maybe halloween is a good release date : )=
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cngo83:
Hello, make us happy Shap's !

Bon courage ami Francais !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
As others have said, m2d and m3d are not even in the same league as TX. They are just today screen plug ins. Have you looked at the functionality TX has? Probably the only thing that will make it outdated is windows mobile 7. So he has at least two years. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ljinsane:
yeah Ive looked at the functionality...but i'm over it...although it looks great!...and yeah you're probably right WM7 will probably out date it...or maybe:D even WM6.5 will...whatever the case it it taking way too long for it to come out...Im just impatient.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rkub:
Ok, well you can wait for WM7 or 6.5... I'm sure that'll be out much sooner than Schap's...lmao
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
Yeah. When I said that probably the only thing to out date it will be WM7, that was to say TX will be released long before it will be outdated.

And I know I'm beating the f*ck out of a dead horse, but I dont get why this wont be released as a cab. I mean this is xda developers. Everyone likes cabs. Half of us here work hard to take features out of ROMs and release them in cab form. This is software that I would gladly pay for. It is commercial quality. Why not release a free ROM and a purchaseable cab. I would purchase and donate. You could probably make big bucks off the other 99% of windows mobile users. You know the ones I'm talkin about. The ones who arent on this site. The ones that don't know how to flash ROMs and dont know the difference between CDMA and hard SPL. :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
Something makes me think this interface is a little more in depth than just swapping out some DLL's and gumming up the registry with certifications and gibberish keys.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
I think it is much simpler than that. :) Of course, I can't know that, but do you really think this is more complicated than Manilla 2D? Plus m2d was designed by HTC for specific hardware and ripped by hackers. Do you really think they can cab that, but the original author of this software cant make it a cab? You can cab anything. Especially if you are the one who wrote it in the first place.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crispyj:
It's a FULL ROM, not a today plugin. This is way more complex than M2D. He will release when he is ready. As he stated before, he has already received offers to sell it and has decided to release it for free. Posting comments requesting him to release it will do nothing but annoy him (and others). He has devoted a lot of his time to develop it and will release it when he feels it is ready.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
What are you talking about? I am not asking him to release it sooner. I am asking him to release it as a cab. And I NEVER said it was just a today plugin. I said M2D is just a today plugin. My point is it doesnt need to be a full ROM. It is a program running on the OS just like any other. It is not replacing system components. What annoys me is when someones says that I said something that I didnt. If you quote my post, please read it clearly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Kraize:
Are you reading up on what he's making? IT IS NOT ANOTHER PROGRAM RUNNING ON THE OS. It IS REPLACING SYSTEM COMPONENTS. You see TF3D? It is pretty complex with all the hex editing and crap. M2D is not very complicated because it was created to run on low end devices. I don't think it can be created as a cab, and I don't think it will be. Schaps has STATED MANY TIMES that he will not release it in a cab, but a rom especially for these phones:

AT&T 8525 (Hermes)

AT&T Tilt (Kaiser)

HTC Diamond

HTC Touch Pro

Maybe:

HTC Touch HD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
Oh really? He is replacing system components? What system components do you think he is replacing? Do you know what a system component is? Have you used/seen spb mobile shell/wisbar/point ui/all the other UI replacements out there? What is TX doing that is so much more complicated than them? These are just apps running on top of the OS. They do not replace or remove any part of the OS itself. As a developer, I dont see TX doing anything a regular app cant do. It is just an interface.

As I stated, TF3d and 2d are difficult because you are hacking it from another device. They are designed specifically for certain devices with certain hardware. All you have are binaries. Of course you need to modify the binaries with hex edits. Shaps does not need to modify his binaries with hex edits. Why? He owns the original source code. He can modify code and rebuild the binary. So as I said, it is much easier to cab something when you are the original author. So I ask again, do you really think this is harder to cab this than TF3D which has both software and hardware dependencies?

Also, I have never seen schaps say he wont make a cab. I have seen others say this on his behalf. I know at this point he probably wont make a cab, but I have not seen him say this himself, which is why I am asking him.

Before you reply please really read what I wrote. I know what I am talking about. I have been writing code since grade school. And dont think that the above means that I think TX is simple. Of course it is complex and took a lot of hard work. But being complex does not mean it is hard to cab. It can be very easy to cab. Writing it is the hard and complex part. All you need to do with the cab is place your modules where they need to be. Also keep in mind that this is all speculation. We dont have any technical details on how it works. It is possible that the way he wrote TX, it must be in a ROM. My point though is that from what I see it does not need to. A regular app can accomplish what he does. No need to tweak the OS itself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
You've been coding since grade school. Congrats. Julien has been making programs for winmo that are being used worldwide, and literally hundreds of people use his programs as an end all. Now imagine if he decides, to say, rebuild an entire operating system, from the bottom to the top. You're obviously not getting that this isn't some shell or program, but a redesigned operating system. Stop making an ass out of yourself, you seem to be ignoring the point that people have told you how you are wrong, just to be able to shout that you could be right.

Monkeys could fly out of my ass, too. I doubt it will happen, but I'll make sure to PM you if it does.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
Oh really? This is a redesigned operating system? Show me the proof of this. I see nothing that suggests that this is more than a shell application. Like I said. Speculation. Unless you have proof that he somehow has rebuilt the OS, I dont see any evidence that this is more than a shell program. No I have not been proven wrong. If you prove me wrong I will accept it. But you are just speculating.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Kraize:
I'll show you proof as soon as Schap's website is back up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Globalrebel:
I honestly barely post, because I feel it is a waste of time. But this post really got to me. Jking . . . please for everyone on this thread just shut the !@#$% up and leave. You're doing noo good for anyone and are really just trying to make yourself feel like you actually matter.

If you can do what Schaps is doing . . then by all means please show us how talented you are. But it seems like you are just some little 15 year old kid who got his phone from his parents/MOMMY, and thinks he knows all that. You may be 20 you may be 30, but in all honesty you are just . . . a pain in the @$$.

Please remove yourself and your childish opinions from this thread because you really have no place here.

To everyone else, I am sorry for my rant . . . but really . . . .REALLY . . . this guy just needs to shut the !@#% up! Schaps . . please keep doing your thing. You have one hell of a gift and deserve a lot more respect then this 3 year old holding a phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] opajec:
Come or come not? first post was created on 14.6.2008! too long :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dingolino:
The day has 24h + the night ...

even for Julien.

It is simply a lot of work to do.

Claus

PS: And yes I am impatitient too
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
Wow. I find that post very childish. I never said I can do what schaps can do. I was saying that I understand how coding and applications work since the person I was speaking to obviously didnt. I give schaps all the respect due to him unlike others in the thread who come and say things like "TF3d is better" and "it will never come out." I simply made a request and everybody who thinks they know what they are talking about wants to tell me that it is not possible so I try to point out why it is. You guys can't take a debate. Everyone gets emotional. Ok, I will leave this thread alone now.

I would still appreciate if you did point this out when it is back up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
wait... something's wrong here.... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Thanks for this update schaps, I can't wait for the finnished product :).

To Everyone else,

Now that schaps has repsonded, I don't expect any other squabling about delays, vapourware, donations, CABs, etc. I'll simply delete those posts or close this thread.

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JKingDev:
Thank you for stopping by to comment. And sorry about all the squabbles going on. I never intended to turn the thread into a debate. I hope you understand that CAB or no CAB, I and everyone else really appreciate your hard work. What you are doing is transforming the whole user experience, and we are most grateful. Good luck on completing the project.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Hi Schaps,

I usually don't post much, but I just have to say that there are so many people out there that really appreciate your hard work. And I hope that those posts here don't discourage you from completing your really great project. I think you deserve a great deal of respect and gratefulness for putting so much work into this.

Hang in there, I am sure you will succeed!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zPacKRat:
wow, it seems that the leaches around here have nothing better to do than show disrespect to those that pretty much donate their time to provide a better mobile experience for us. I for one would recommend that the mods start laying down some law with a ban hammer to those that offer up destructive content and have nothing positive to add to these forums. I for one may not post alot, but do quite a bit of reading and have donated a little as well, additional I fully understand that what the chefs serve up around here is much better than what would be had in a bread line.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ljinsane:
Schaps.....very simply...Thank you for your hard work and forget all the ungrateful people who made dumb comments in this thread. Keep up the good work and although I'm quite impaitent I continue to look forward to this great innovation you have been working on...FYI, I just donated( hint Hawthorne CA ) to show my support.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Imperium:
I'm more of a reader then a writer on this forum. But i want to let you know that i appreciate the hard work you do for this forum. so... thank you! keep em coming :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stuff:
Schaps, I hope you read my response:

What is up with the website? Your bandwidth was exceeded obviously, but when will it be back to normal and accessible again?

Thanks for the hard work though. It's not that none of us appreciate the work, I just believe a few people were getting to anxious and we're maybe doubting the skill that is needed to build touchxperience.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] qasimgnr:
you rock schaps.... been using your roms since hermes. you havent been so generous as far as kaiser was concerned. waiting impatiently for your new one. Till then hyperdragon rules my kaiser.

You my friend are a true genius. hope you succeed in making this one work.

rock on boy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] v3patel:
Welcome Back

I been using your roms from 8525 days. and I have used your kaiser rom for long time as well. I am waiting for this touchexpriance and will wait fro what ever time you need to produce it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
Finaly some mod have come in here. I think it was needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stormfr:
hope see it soon

look to update on your website regulary and don't see any, thanks for update and hope you will find strenght to finish it and continue later on.

use your first rom for a few month (switch to manila for now) but really WANT use touch and will contribute in donation if it's fit my need.

Continue your great work and don't listen stupid guyz that's never made any line of code (or claim to do it ...) it's always easy to wine but much more harder to do the work !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fatboydc:
Why would you apologize? You're the one who doing all the work. Don't let them bring you down. We always appreciate your work. For the complainers, they'll complain about anything and everything. Keep up the good work and enjoy yourself. Life is too short to worry about those who sit back and do nothing but criticize. Happy Halloween!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Thanks for the comprehensive update! And wish you all the best of success for this the final lap! My suggestion would be that you get one of your private beta testers to act as your "Update Admin Assistant" especially as the TouchXperience website seems to be down so that they periodically post a 1-liner update here to say eg "...testing is going OK...major release milestone reached...ETA still unknown etc etc..." This because you're very busy with the project yourself and we don't want you taking your focus away, and secondly just to appease the nay-sayers and shut them up. I have to agree some of the comments here are really hurtful.

However, I don't think this will be neccessary now coz your update on the final phase of the project is very clear.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dinkey:
Hey, i don't post much on XDA... I have been a lurker here for quite some time now..

SCHAPS, you have no reason to apologize.. people who have been here for a long time know you are one of the legends on XDA... and its visible in most ROMS.

Almost everyone uses your config and advanced config tools, voip setup, reg editors and much more..

don't worry about a bunch of people who just got their toys and now want to play with them.. you have nothing to prove to them as they have no value for your work if they are gonna cry and whine about it..

they don't understand the complexity of it.. take your time.. it'll be ready once its ready.. and only you decide once its ready.. no one else..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SatScan:
2e WOW Effect!!!!

Keep going on... this userinterface wil be a milestone!

I'm ready for the new Schap's adventure!

Any help, support or donation needed ? Let me know!

And thanks to the betatestingteam!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sahuja:
Ready Steady GOOOOOOOOOOO

I am ready for the private beta test. I have been flashing for ages. hermes/kaiser are the devices i know of.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ghaith_d:
Hey Schaps, I dont post here very often, I kinda lurk in the background, but I feel like I have to say this. Do not let those inconsiderate people let you down. Your hard work is very appreciated and I cannot stress how grateful I am. The people who ***** (excuse my language) and complain dont know how complex the work is, how much you sacrificed, and how much effort you are putting into this.

So please keep doing what you are doing, we are all forever grateful :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NightStar404:
I totally agree too with fatboydc

dont let any one bring you down as life is tooooo short to worry about them

regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Poulpi06:
go schap's, i'll be waiting, and continue to wait with no stress,

you make the best fo us and i thank you a alot

;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dellandouv:
shap's dont get angry or upset.. u r number 1 on XDA and everybody knows this.. if people says bad things thats why they are impatient for ur project.. i will be waiting u, till the project end..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Sergio PC:
Woooooowwwww:D

I just checked out the vids and they are insanely cool.

You guys know this project is gonna revolutionize the scene.

This is BIG.

Thanks Schaps Sir!

Im glad to form part of such a kick asss community:)

PS: Patience pays my friends o yes it does pay.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pastaman:
Hey man,

i'm also one of those reader types, but i'm posting this time to let you know that your project is in my favorites for some time now ;)

maybe the people that respect you for your work don't post much, but i'm very sure that there are aaaalot of people that have alot of respect for all your hard work ;)

and as the others said, don't apologize ;)

still a very honestly update you gave there, for that alone a big respect ;)

Greetz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] asiliem:
Schap;

Go ahead.

Regards,

Ahmed Siliem
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sebastianmc:
Go ahead schaps!!! We are waiting for it..!!:):p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] divineholiness:
Your all WRONG!

Like isn't too short, we shouldn't or in this case Schap shouldn't just ignore them. He should write down each and every one of the ignorant dumb a**es names, and once he's done and can visit them all and give them a full and deserved beating. Oh, the whole while showing them his touch system working like a dream.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DA BOSS:
very nice looks alot better than the outdated windows will you add color icons on the upper task bar as well????? because the old ones wil look very outdated compared to this
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cerebralplaya74:
Keep at it Chief!!!

I agree 100%....To you, Mr. Schap, as a former Hermes user myself, I have long since admired your work, and I already know that anything you come out with for the Kaiser is gonna be just as good, if not better!! Rest assured, when the new ROM comes out, I will be flashing it!!! Don't let the haters stop you from doing ya thing!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cerebralplaya74:
Mr. Schaps, I appreciate all that you have done, and let me say publicly that YOU have had the best roms over the years....I still have my Hermes with your ROM on it and I can honestly say I know anything you come out with for the Kaiser is going to be excellent....For all those who are being impatient with Mr. Schaps for not putting his rom out now, you need to lay off...These things take time, and greatness cannot be rushed. Mr. Schaps, you take as long as you need, because it is better to be done right than to be done fast.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oracle00:
hi schaps... just dropping a note to express my appreciation for the time that you have put into for this project for the benefit of many others.. pls do not be disheartened.. for those who may have make unkind remarks, there are others who believed in you and have donated to your efforts and have been patiently waiting.. cheers!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] irishmdc:
Schaps, I just wanted to say that I have always thought your stuff was some of the best!!!! Don't listen to the idiots, just do your thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] deeznuts:
Updates?

What ever happened to this project? Seems its been unvieled for over a year with no updates. MAybe after the diamond came out schaps moved on to bigger and better things and dropped this project. Or maybe after manilla came out it got dropped? Who knows since schaps never updates us on this? Oh well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Jester1:
You might want to go back to page 42 where Schaps posted a full update on the current status of the project.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mallyda1:
Keep Ya head up Bro

Schaps, I just wanted to say that your stuff is the best and always has been, Don't listen to these A Holes who think they know everything better, just do your thing and know that you have alot more support and respect in this scene.

I love your work bro and will always support it... :):):)

Mallyda1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denjim:
I´m also very interested in testing this rom, count me if you want