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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Not attacking no one just making a point that you do realise that's £823 for the 64gb model in the UK? I paid £30 less for more ram, twice the storage etc etc.

You are correct no phone is perfect and probably never will be the way it is going but anyone would be naive to think Google made a step up this time to compete with the competition? At the end of the day it's their flagship and charging flagship prices for it too.

I wouldn't have purchased it in the first place if i didn't intend to keep it, in fact I've held for nearly 2 years waiting for the 4xl.

This is not a batch issue here it's how Google have calibrated it so that's why I'm not getting involved this time with the endless cycles of replacements, i wasted enough time in the 2xl to finally get a good one, everyone knows that who's owned a 2xl it's well documented.

Also you won't have problems with Google support if it's just a replacement your after, after all they sent me a replacement straight away, the issue now is getting a refund, can you believe they wouldn't let me send both phones back together for a refund, they wanted one at a time because the system says no, they cannot create 2 labels, yes a multi million corporation cannot create 2 labels, And the best part they received the first back a week last Thursday, that's right nearly 2 weeks ago and have had 5-6 hours worth of conversations as to why have they still not emailed me the 2nd return label, and guess what they still don't know what's going on, they still can't create the 2nd label, so i recorded the last conversation i had with them and passed it on to my bank, if you had to deal with that trust me they are the worst support going.

Just to add if you want to see how their support is doing have a look on trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/review/store.google.com
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Rajaasim1980:
First of all we dont have best buy here in UK so dont know what you are talking about . I had phone with me and returned it within 14 days because did not see much improvement from pixel 2 xl and U11 i.e two phones which i have with me at present

secondly you can make certain observation about phones after looking at its spec sheets and after reading/watching different reviews online which give you ideas about durability , camera and battery of phones etc so quite naive to say that you must own devices in order to comment on it

Thirdly just because you own pixel 4 xl dont make it best phone available out there so stupid to expect from everyone to praise and love Pixel 4 XL. Why people cannot express their disappointed regarding Pixel 4 XL and why you need their certificate of approval ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] yyz71:
That's like saying I'm buying the phone because of benchmark scores! I don't put much into people's reviews of anything! I'd rather own the device and come to my own conclusion.. We all use our phones differently than next person. Hey but it's you're right to return whatever product you purchase. And for the record I did not say it's the best device our there.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Rajaasim1980:
My post was referring to opening post and all those who are complaining about why some people are showing disappointment toward Pixel 4 xl or writing negative reviews ..My point was that why negative reviews of others matter to you when you are completely satisfied with your phone and the price you paid for it?

Reviews sites exist even on XDA for a reason i.e help people in making informed decision abut what they are purchasing ..these days difference between current and previous generation flagship is nothing but just benchmark scores and i dont care about benchmark score thats why still stick to pixel 2 xl and did not upgraded to pixel 3 and 4 as did not see much improvement to justify double or triple cost but its just me and evreyone else is free to make decisons for themselves and i will not be moaning about it if they dont agree with me
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sis3970:
I'm not annoyed by any of those reviews. I did learn not to take them to seriously though. There is some truth in all of them, but also bias.

I used iPhones from the 4s till the xs. Then because of boredom I decided to give Android a try.

I started with a Samsung s10. Didn't like the UI lag and the camera compared to the iPhone xs. However, the formfactor was perfect.

After that I tried the OnePlus 6t. Great phone, snappy, good software. But too big and crappy camera.

After this I bought the note 10. This phone was almost perfect. I did miss the camera perfection though.

Now I have the small pixel 4. Perfect in every way? No. Almost. The battery is not sufficient. However, I really enjoy using this phone. Good size, good screen, yes, after the note 10 I still think the pixel has a good screen. And the camera is just amazing. Perhaps the iPhone 11's camera is better, but I didn't want to pay 800 Euro for an iOS device anymore, since I know iOS just too well and I'm bored by it.

I paid 700 Euros for my pixel and I'm enjoying it since day one.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Now that is a great post. True, to the point, not biased other than how he feels, actual real world experience with the various devices.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] barondebxl:
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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bb709394:
Received my Pixel 4 XL yesterday. This is a great phone, the screen 'pops' out and definitely a noticeable improvement over the Pixel 2 XL. Everything is buttery smooth, but I have not tried the motion sense yet cuz I think I would look silly waving my hands in public to my phone.

All those negative reviews have some sort of bias. Google got many things right this time around, but I would to see a larger battery. The telephoto was the right move if I could only chose one (telephoto vs wide angle). I want the ability to zoom in on my subject, it is rare I want to capture more of the background. Besides, capturing in panorama fixes the background issue.

Most reviews seem to be toting the iPhone 11 Pro (because they are iPhone users). Lew from Unbox Therapy seems to have the right approach, try using the phone as your main for a month or two before flapping your trap about 'why you hate the phone'.

If I have to hear another f'ing review about how they will stay with iOS because of iMessage, I will scream... *ARGHHH!*. Seriously, why don't they talk about how iMessage f**ks up SMS messaging if you forget to de-register before you move to an Android devices.

iMessage (and the coloured) bubbles is not a status symbol, it just states your are iSheep and bought into Apple's b*llsh*t. Unfortunately, I am one of the few that thinks this way. Most will say it's all about the integration experience for the user, etc.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Your battery is going to get a lot better after a few days, the adaptive battery thing really works.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pafc66:
Anyone who says who needs a wide angle camera is a idiot and I can guarantee you hasn't used one. I had this phone for a week and went back to my note 10 plus, wanted to try the stock android feel and the camera.

The camera isn't much better than the note 10 plus and at times worse and much less flexible with lens and video looked like my old s8?

Stock android used to be nice however OEM skins have caught up and are just as quick with more features now.

There's just too many shortcomings for this phone and to grab it for the camera and UI just wasn't worth it, I missed too much from my note .

It's a good basic phone that works well. Google chose not to take the extra step this year and stood still therefore expect a negative backlash when they get grandiose with their pricing. At least this year there isn't a huge issue like every other year, if you look sideways at their face unlock bug.

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Like any other modern android phone.

However it doesn't make the battery "good"
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Almost every review where they waited to and actually used the phone before they posted their review is saying the battery life is similar to other flagship android devices like the Note 10 and I'm seeing the same myself. You don't sound like you've actually owned this phone, You are right though, it's just like every other flagship android phone in regards to battery life.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] gido87:
1. Overpriced? still cheaper as other brand improvement can't say much don't have the pixel 3 but still better than pixel 2. And you get fast security update.

2. Sorry but who in the right mind would bend his phone? I mean i can do the same with every phone out there what Jerryrigeverything did.

3. Agree

4. Battery life is ok for normal user but for the Hardcore user i would say go with other phone.

5. Hmm...are you blind?

6. Same answer as 5

7. That's i also agree.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sharkoparko:
All phones may have issues at launch but you can't fix yellow screen. I have 4 xl and can't stand the display color. Sitting next to note 9 or 10, 4xl display is junk.

Same issues like when 2xl line. Every damn time with Google
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
You know the Note 10 and especially Note 9 have very bluish white temperature screens by default right? 6,950 K and 7,515 K respectively. Which is not close to the Standard D65 White of 6500k which is daylight white and is warm. Putting a cooler, bluish screen next to the 6,610 K Pixel 4 XL is going to make the Pixel 4 XL look extra warm.

And I had the Pixel 2 XL and this screen is a huge upgrade over that screen in every way except brightness.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] drolgnir:
The pixel 2XL is still a great phone, it's possible to hold till next year, but will the 5XL be a better 2XL? The 4XL feels like a upgraded clone of the 2XL almost in every way.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ksd316:
I don't mind a difference of opinion, but it's the opinions that are given without really using the phone as a daily driver for an extended period of time. The pros out weigh the cons for me. I will say this, if OnePlus decided to add wireless charging I may strongly be considering them next time around.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jamgam:
I just wanted a brighter screen. I work outside a lot and couldn't see the damn thing (compared to s10+). I liked everything else about the phone. Not a heavy users so battery life wasn't a big deal to me but not being able to see the screen was a deal breaker. way to dim at full brightness
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sic0048:
I don't know why Google is artificially limiting the max screen brightness of the Pixel 4. But they didn't start this with the Pixel 4 as many reports seem to indicate (assuming it was to save battery life on the P4). The Pixel 3a series also has an artificially limited max screen brightness.

There are solutions, but you will need to root your phone. Personally I think it is worth it, but obviously some people have a legitimate reason not to root. But if you do root, you can run a custom kernel (like ExperiementalX) with HBM (high brightness mode) support and take away this limitation that Google has put on. I have a quick tile that turns HBM on and off, so it is super easy to turn on when I am in a bright setting and need the extra screen brightness. It works well.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Personally I think the Pixel 2 XL is better than the Pixel 4 XL.

The Pixel 2 XL has better battery life. My Pixel 2 XL has similar battery life after 2 years to what a Pixel 4 XL has brand new. And the Pixel 2 XL's battery life, even new, was mediocre at best.

The Pixel 4 XL takes away the fingerprint sensor which I greatly prefer over face unlock since the fingerprint sensor works much more consistently.

The Pixel 2 XL has a (mostly) metal back with I greatly prefer over a fully glass back.

My only concern with keeping my Pixel 2 XL for another year is how the battery will hold up.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] arsenal74:
Could be improved via a software update maybe?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] drolgnir:
My pixel 2Xl actually has worse battery life being only a 1.5yrs old, and being a carpenter/mechanic my finger prints never work anyways. I am very happy to get face unlock back. Which for me works in any light with or without a hat or hoodie on. It's quite fast too.

I don't like having a glass back but if it means I can now access the battery without destroying my screen I'm pumped! But yeah when my p2 xl was young battery life was great and I'll be throwing a kernel and blackened mod on this soon to improve it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
Face unlock relies heavily on infrared cameras which is a major issue when you have a big ball of infrared light (aka the sun). The technology is the same as the iPhone's Face ID which people constantly complain about. I also like the fact that the fingerprint unlock allows me to skip the lock screen when I want and not skip when I want.

Comparing the battery life of the Pixel 2 XL that's 1.5 years old to a new Pixel 4 XL isn't a fair comparison. The Pixel 2 XL battery life was better when it was new than the Pixel 4 XL is when new. Imagine what the Pixel 4 XL battery life will be when it's 1.5-2 years old. Brand New the Pixel 2 XL battery life was mediocre at best.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] drolgnir:
You'd probably have read the post I was quoting to get better context of what I said. I'll try to be more clear next time.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
What Google could have done differently to make this more appealing.

Bigger screen 6.7

Led notification

Stainless steel bezels

That's it, would have been considered great premium device by most. At the moment it feels like between mid high range phone. Side by side next to my iPhone 11 pro max it looks sad. Then again big difference in price also.

Love the software but not feeling the 90hz screen yet. 90hz really shows on the OnePlus
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
I think those are the three things no one's complained about. LOL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
It's odd as 2 of those are the factors considered for premium flagship phones.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Summed up, top 3 complaints are the price, the starting storage, and lack of ultra wide. Runner up is only 6 GB RAM.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
I could get past the price, storage, and lack of ultra-wide but I was a little chapped that it didn't have a hard button that when pressed would make naked supermodels pop out of the phone to fetch me a beer. I mean, c'mon Google, what's up with that? :)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
That's why I bought the pixel 4 and not the XL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] cawith:
4 GB of RAM..? I think you got some specs wrong. Both models have 6 GB.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
My bad. Just a typo.[emoji1362]
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] riz157:
Price complaints due to poor build quality, Small screen. Hand in hand.

Storage is a big issue I agree

Ultra wide for some not the masses
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Price complaints are due to getting less for your money compared to other Android phones. The build quality is not a common complaint unless you're Jerry Rig Everything and have a reason to bend your phone. I would be very surprised to see a "bend gate" issue.

Only the Note 10 Plus has an XXL screen size. The Pixel 4 XL, Note 10, S10 Plus, and iPhone 11 Pro Max are all around similar sizes of 6.3, 6.3, 6.4, and 6.5 respectively.

Ultra Wide might not be what everyone needs/wants but when Samsung, Apple, OnePlus, and even Motorola have 3 lenses in their highest end phones, it's something the Pixel 4 XL is obviously lacking.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
Not annoyed, Just purchased my Pixel 4 xl
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adit07:
Having read 13 pages worth of comments, I have decided not to get Pixel 4 XL despite the heavy Black Friday discount now.

There are negative reviews everywhere because it is indeed a bad phone when compared to the competition in terms of hardware. You buy this phone for software, NOT hardware.

People who prefer clean android experience but are willing to sacrifice on hardware quality may get the pixel 4. IMO OnePlus 7t pro offers best of both worlds: good hardware and relatively faster updates (compared to samsung,lg etc) so I am going to go get that instead.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sic0048:
IMHO, the only reason NOT to get the 7t (Pro or not) is the camera. It isn't terrible, but it is far from the experience you get with the Pixel line. All those extra lenses aren't worth anything if the picture quality is still sub-par. But, this is my opinion only and the camera is a very important part of the phone experience for me. This is why my family now has 3 Pixel 3a XL - I feel like it's a far better bargain than the Pixel 4.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] JrWriter87:
I agree with this. I have the OP7Pro and 4XL. Cameras are night and day. Rarely use the wide angle. If anything go for the 7T. The curve screen serves no purpose.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] ram4ufriends:
I had Oneplus 7 Pro and oneplus 7T and to be honest camera samples can’t even match my 2 years old Pixel 2 XL...I was almost never able to get non blurry pictures with any moving objects from Oneplus
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] adit07:
Completely agree with you. Photos on OnePlus 7 are not even in the same league as pixel 4. But then again, it circles back to my point of the magic being done by google on the software front which makes the photos far better than OnePlus. No one can beat google when it comes to computational photography.

For me, camera is not that important (I am ugly as f**k), which is why OnePlus fits the bill for me.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] biggiestuff:
Some of the complaints are definitely warranted. Google just seems to be marching to the beat of their own drum. Their progression isn't as fast as other companies and consumers are beginning to notice. The phones feel really niche.

If you are a huge Google Assistant voice command user that takes a lot of quick snaps without the need for editing who only does the occasional video because it's time consuming and wants a phone that isn't about using the phone but wants a phone to make their daily routines easier than I think this is the phone for you.

Hugest complaints of no progress compared to competitors

1) storage has been stagnant at 64/128gb for quite some time

2) ram is finally getting a minor boost after 3 versions?

3) cameras cameras cameras MORE IS BETTER especially since you do cameras so well.

4) HEY CHECK OUT THIS GREAT EXCLUSIVE PIXEL FEATURE? NAAAH you can't have it anymore

5) pricing for features they feel are premium but not the consumer.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Some_Ghost:
I am very happy with my 4XL, I have had it for a week now and my battery is good I am getting a little over 7 hours of screen on time with motion sense off.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] lyall29:
I've had mine for 24hrs, and so far I love it. Much better IMO, than any Android I've used this year (which is almost all of them).
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] D.Spirit:
Screen sucked.

I do not recommend the Pixel 4 XL device.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] i42o:
Why not use a screen protector
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] succumbtothegreater:
While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I strongly believe that a lot of professional reviewers put out their reviews way too quickly. They probably had less than a week with the phone, and a lot of times, you can't know everything about a phone in a week. I just got mine in Tuesday the 26th and so far, coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro, my battery life seems to be quite close at first, my first full day with the phone, I got 6 hours screen on time with everything on, and it lasted my until 9 PM. With the same usage, I would normally get 5-5.5 hours SOT on the 7 Pro. Reviews talk about horrid battery life, but give no context, like that it's comparable to the 7 Pro, and my dad's GS10+ also gets similar battery life. My initial impressions are that this seems like a great phone. I got it for the black Friday sale, so at $700 I think it's a great phone, maybe not worth the $900 for 64 GB. I definitely think there are some things that can be improved, like starting storage and price, but they are putting new, and likely expensive radar tech into a phone, which is bound to inflate the price. If you don't abuse your phone, durability shouldn't be an issue. Sure, there should've been an ultra wide sensor on the back, but I rarely used it on my 7 Pro, so I'm not really complaining, although I was thankful for it when I wanted to use it, but I think general photo quality over the 7 Pro makes up for it. The screen is very good, but I do wish it had more calibration options, but I can make do with what it gives me. So yes, I am annoyed with all the negative reviews because I feel they were all put out prematurely, and should've been titled first impressions, it happens. Everything will have negative reviews, but it's a bit excessive in this case.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Still don't understand the RAM as a complaint. Another RAM chip would be a constant power consumer, and any Linux based system can do just fine with 4-6GB. Actually it would be absolutely fluid with 2-4GB as well. RAM just is an eye catcher in the specs sheet, no more no less.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah that looks like user error. I didn't have a screen protector on my Pixel 2 XL and didn't have an issue at all.

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There's pretty aggressive RAM management with the Pixel 4 XL. Yes a software fix could help but so could more RAM. And again, phone cheaper or same price are offering at least 8 GB. If the phone could do as well with 2-4 GB then why put more at all? It's not just an eye catcher. It does make a difference and apps are getting more and more RAM hungry.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Cause it has the actual precise screen in terms of colour rendering instead of all those off balance blueish screens on other smartphones!? The Pixel 4 XL is just hitting the DCI-P3 perfectly, as shown below (red ist the Pixel 4 XL, black is the reference).
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Don't experience those problems all 183 Apps I'm running always stay in RAM, if I don't Force them to be closed.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
I haven't noticed it myself and if anything it is better than my Pixel 2 XL which wasn't terrible. But when people demo and compare it to other phones, you can see it. And I'm not talking about Phonebuff's not practical speed test, which does however show it as well. This video is a simple open, close, and reopen later.

https://youtu.be/J9tYxRphOV4
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah people for some reason love the cooler Samsung profile yet I don't understand why when I see something like this.View attachment 4889039