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[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] xavier55:
I'm new to the pixel family. I was with Samsung Galaxy when I had my first major brand-name phone then went to lg. Now a happy owner of the p4xl to me this phone is great great camera but lg cam 8s better hardware wise but software wise p4xl has it. I think with all the complaints I keep hearing and reading about the cam, I feel Google focus on so and software more then anything and they did a great job. Plus you get updates faster then any brand out there.. I hear people complaining also about how cheap the phone feels but this phone feel heavier then I'm use too. I feel the ones who are really complaining are not appreciative of where Google's trying to go to in the future where just thinking about hardware and how each phone out me to another phone or another competitor but I feel good doing this right sore for it was hardware wise and it's just going to get better I think but that's for a first time Google pixel 4 user experience
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] jr313:
If you need convincing I would say you don't want it. Just my opinion but I usually know when I want to keep or return something.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] evocalante:
If your not 100% convinced return it. But don't base your judgements on what reviewers said, form your own opinion. I had serious questions about it but after two weeks I'm in love with it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Cowbell_Guy:
If I were you, I would get the OnePlus 7T and 4 XL. Try them both.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Paz9:
Kept my 4xl sold my op7pro

Go figure.

Google fixed the 90hz brightness feature so it's on always now. Unless you have the 4.

Prefer my google over my 7pro tbh in every aspect
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Ghisy:
I'm kinda like the OP right now but didn't buy the 4 XL just yet. I'll be waiting a few months for a price drop, I can't justify $1000 for a phone, no matter who makes it.

For $200/300 less for the 128 XL, maybe I'll reconsider.

But seriously, since you have it, open it and give it a try so you can judge for yourself!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] zetsumeikuro:
I'm not trying to be rude by saying this, but I'll just be honest. You probably should just return your 4XL if you're needing someone to try to convince you to keep a device in the first place. Never regret or doubt anything you buy, otherwise you will never truly be happy with it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] MicroMod777:
I returned my Pixel 4 XL after 5 days, not because I didn't like it, but because I couldn't justify the cost either. Looking for a Black Friday deal to repurchase.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] bigmatt503:
Well said!!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] arsenal74:
Similar dilemma here. Mine is on fleabay but I still keep thinking about keeping it.

I like the main camera, face unlock, vanilla android, gestures and 90 hz display

I don’t like the cheap in hand feel (just IMO), sub par (but not terrible) battery, lack of ultra wide, large top bezel and asymmetrical top/bottom. I also do not like the general feeling that I have over paid for meh hardware albeit hardware that is coupled with a very good software experience.

I also have a mate 20 pro which whilst long in the tooth is still terrific. If the Oneplus 7t/7t pro had wireless charging and an always on display I’d probably already have a oneplus.

YMMV
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] reuben3wich:
Pixel is all about the software experience?

Pick up my phone and I feel a slight anxiety "will motion sense detect me reaching?", nevermind my finger is already on the power button as it's never consistent. Next, I open an app to start the day and immediately bothered by the green hue's in the greys. Next, as I'm jumping across a couple of apps, I get distracted by the sloppy home bar (not the floating pill), it clips the corners, takes up space as it's not transparent, but rather a thick black/white bar. Next, I use the camera for a quick snap or two and frustrated I don't have an ultrawide (which is fine but I frown that Google tells me I'm wrong and that ruins my experience). As I set my phone down I take a quick glance at my battery percentage because it drops fast.

Great experience!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Nice story
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] neo_lithic3K:
I'm keeping my Pixel 4 XL because Google doesn't void its warranty when I unlock the bootloader, so it's easy to try custom roms and kernels. I can update to the latest stock image as soon as Google releases them, which includes new features and patches. With other manufacturers, there could be a long wait for the stock updates, sometimes 6 month to a year. Also - I purchased mine from the Google store; from my experience with my Pixel 2 XL, they simply sent me a replacement when there was something wrong with the phone. I can't say that about other manufacturers.

You're right that there isn't anything compelling in the Pixel 4 XL, except maybe faster cpu and more ram (even though my Pixel 2 XL was already performing nicely). I turned off my motion sense b/c it didn't benefit me much. I also kept the 90Hz at default; didn't want to sacrifice battery for something I'd probably won't miss. Face unlock is fine once I got used to it, but I'd still prefer a fingerprint scanner.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
Give up on pixel 4xl. It's not worth it! Google messed it up big time on many things. I'm rocking a pixel 2xl and will stick to it until the 5xl comes. Because there is nothing much 4xl has to offer.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
You haven't actually used the Pixel 4 XL on a daily basis have you? Because I definitely appreciate all it's upgrades over my old Pixel 2 XL. The screen is so much better especially in low brightness and there's no blue shift. The speakers are louder and have a greater range. Rear camera has a slight but noticable upgrade overall (less noise in dark area, less blown highlights). It's actually okay to zoom with the 4 XL. Audio recording for videos is stereo. Front facing camera has video stabilization and wider angle and better colors for stills.

My Pixel 2 XL aged very well over 2 years but the Pixel 4 XL is snappier and quicker in everyway.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
Should have opened it and tested it for yourself
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
Whatever you are mentioning are minor upgrades man. I haven't used it in person but these small things will not win me over anyway. You are talking about a flagship released after 2 years.

1) do you have ultra wide lense? No ( because they decided for us that it's not needed lol like seriously??)

2) do you have a storage option over 128gig? No! Is that the best Google can do with taking the high res uploading option out of the game?

3) can you use 90hz all the time without killing your battery way too early- No! But had they provided 4000 or above capacity battery we all could've!

4) Even the screen brightness is restricted at 430 nits or something - Why?? Probably because of small battery capacity! Because it can reach 600+ easily.

5) selfie cam is still 8mp - this is from gen 1. There is no upgrade here.

I can go on and on bro but Google really let us down this time and the last year as well
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] zetsumeikuro:
1.) Not everyone cares for a wide lens or wants one. Could they have added it in to shut people up? Probably.

2.) Google is doing this to force some people to utilize cloud storage $$$ is their goal and not going to defend them.

3.) I use forced 90hz (but probably don't need to anymore after the Nov update) and I'm a pretty heavy user and I can make it through the day just fine. Adpative battery works and I'm fine with my battery life.

4.) Root and you can force HBM and hit 610 nits on the display which is more than adequate for outdoor viewing. Should this be available w/o having to root? Absoutley. But since you're at XDA you probably don't mind rooting?

5.) Don't fall into the MP game of more always = better pictures. There's more to it than just increasing MP on the sensor and calling it a day. But if you want to do that the Note 10 only has 10 yet people don't seem to give it crap? The 4 takes good enough selfies and Google's computational photography goes a long way.

Honestly the best thing you could do is pick one up yourself and give it a try instead of just bashing on it based off of paper specs. But I have a feeling even if you pick one up and give a try you wouldn't be satisfied. Perhaps it would be better for you to pickup a phone from a company that just cares about bumping specs to look good on paper?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
Great response however you got few things wrong.

I do not care about specs that's why i didn't cry about 6gb ram like many reviewers ? I'm very satisfied with 4gb on my 2xl however there should've been a bump in pixel 3 itself. Anyway this is not the topic right now. Something you can't just replace with software tweaks like battery size and storage size.

1) it's their loss and they will realise it. It's not about shutting up people but a horribly wrong decision on their part. No idea what they were smoking.

4) XDA represents very small group of people and why root when this can be easily done on Google's part. This is another weird decision.

5) Downgrading from 2 cameras to 1 in front is a weird decision in my view. The angle is wide but not as wide as the wide angle on 3/3xl cam. Don't care about pixels but this phone takes similar photos to 2xl atleast from the front cam. I really would have liked to see some improvements here.

If i would've cared about specs i wouldn't have bought pixel 2xl after 1 year of its release but i do have common sense and can make out what is sensible and what is not. These minor upgrades won't win me over. Also i didn't say a thing about the big forehead because i don't mind although every manufac is moving towards full screen displays.

Lastly the soli chip they made all the fuss about is only good for one thing that is detecting when you are reaching for the phone and helps in speeding up the unlocking process. They had nothing else so they made a big deal out of this that it's something revolutionary.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Oh I understand it's downsides (I've even posted all or most of those too on a different thread) but have excepted them because it's still the best Android experience. I was just listing (not 100% thorough) my reasons that it's definitely an upgrade coming from a Pixel 2 XL. And as for the front camera stills, it's got better dynamic range and colors in tough rear lighting. Just saying. There's a whole Pixel 2 XL to Pixel 4 XL upgraders thread.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Don't know how people can say it's a small upgrade from the pixel 2??!! I think it's a lot better than the 3??!!. But if your coming from the 2...

Better processer

More ram

Much better screen

Better speakers

Better cameras

Better haptics

Less bezel

No annoying curves and chunky side bezels (XL)

90hz screen

Proper face id

Soli, radar.

Good battery life.

Isn't that an updated in pretty much every department lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
Better processer - pretty obvious( every year it changes)

More ram - 2 gigs, should've been done in 3. Anyway no issues here

Much better screen - yes but let down by outdoor visibility. Not acceptable

Better speakers - can't say. I love my 2xl speaker although they are a bit muddy lol hardly matters

Better cameras - duh obviously but no ultra wide

Better haptics - okay?

Less bezel - still bezels lol huge forehead in 2019

No annoying curves and chunky side bezels (XL) - never had an issue with it

90hz screen - adaptive screen not 90 all the time

Proper face id - didn't ask for it but they took away fingerprint in place of this. And yet to provide update for close eyes unlock fault

Soli, radar. - only good for one thing

Good battery life. - really? It's pretty similar or even bad at times

Obviously it is an upgrade but minor in every department even in the screen because if you can't see it properly in a bright sunny day what is the use of that amoled panel?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Screen is not a minor upgrade at all. It's just missing a higher nits output but I see it fine 99% of the time outside and I'm in Florida.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
I'm in UK it would be fine for me but if i go back to my home country India it will be a problem. Anyway good to know it's not that bad.

How is it if you compare the screen with 3xl? Because 2xl screen was the biggest let down but doesn't matter to me unless i don't see a galaxy or an iPhone next to mine ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
I never spent much time with the Pixel 3 XL other than in store for a few minutes so can't say much. All three devices (2 XL, 3 XL, 4 XL) have brightness in the 420-436 nits so on that end they're similar. I really can't believe how I just dealt with the 2 XL screen for so long though with the black smear, blue shift, and just hazy overall look.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
Don't tell me! I'm still using it and gonna use it for another year ? i hate the black smear though. Blue shift is not an issue as such. What do you mean hazy?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Like even with the color set to boosted it just didn't have a good look. As if a light grey filter was over the whole screen.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
Oh ok! I don't feel that way about it, so good for me lol. Anyway what are the major changes you are enjoying after switching from 2xl?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
I posted my 1st week impressions here:

https://xdaforums.com/pixel-4-xl/how-to/2-xl-vs-4-xl-comparisons-please-post-t3988097

Good thread too for 2 XL owners thinking about the 4 XL
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Haha I state all the facts about what's upgraded and you disregard it all. You obviously just telling yourself the 2 XL is as good. Yes the haptics (vibration motor)is better. yeah the forehead is bigger than others but still way less bezels than the 2 XL which is what we're directly comparing it to.

Incorrect they have updated it and 90hz runs all the time now.

Radar is actually useful for a few things.

The battery is better than the 2 XL for a lot of people.

Never said the sides were a problem for you but it's still an upgrade.

Better cameras...still an extra lens and is still an upgrade.

The speakers are a lot better...I can say.

Visibility is fine for most people. The glass is also rated as one of the least reflective out of all the flagships.

Doesn't matter when it should have been done 6gb of ram and a new processer is still better and an upgrade.

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with the phone . But I'm stating facts and in pretty much every area its an upgrade from the 2 XL which means it is a good upgrade
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] joeyddr:
this isn't reddit btw.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] dmb219:
I like my 4XL a lot. It's the best phone I've had and I get one each year, maybe 2. If you don't like it, return it. Why complain so much and why keep something so expensive if you think it is garbage?? So much drama here.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] zetsumeikuro:
1.) I don't disagree with you and it wouldn't of cost them anything extra to add. It's probably Google just trying to "stand out from the crowd" even if it is negatively.

4.) For this case I was just referring to you and not the masses. But yeah, year after year the displays are dimmer than all the core competition.

5.) Looking at the front of the device it probably would be possible for them to put in the wide angle lens. But again can't be certain to this one as I haven't looked at the internals in a tear down so I can't say if there's space or not. Google took precedence for Soli over another camera possibly.

I've seen the demo video and they probably had a lot more planned. I remember reading an article/seeing a video that originally they wanted to put it in the 3XL and that's also why they had that huge monstrosity of a notch but it wasn't ready for prime time. Then they had to redo it from scratch because all the extra gestures were designed with the 3XL gesture in mind and they could only give us so much at this time. If this is true or not I don't know. But I'm positive they will add more to it over time with software updates. Even with all the "shortcomings" I enjoy my 4XL it's fast, fluid has a good camera, sounds great on voice calls has a nicely calibrated screen and as a heavy user it gets me through the day. Hopefully next year they give into the spec war and appease all crowds.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
To root just for brightness, i think pixels can do much better than that. Yes, I'm happy you are enjoying your phone! It's a good device but doesn't justify its price. I don't care about the spec war man but memory, a hardware piece like extra camera or a big battery capacity is something which you can't replace with software. Either the phone has it or not.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Bwyan Benton:
Why should any of us have to convince you? Just make your own decisions based on how YOU feel.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Combonary:
I love specs but I also know where my balance is. This phone is where I want it to be right now. Forehead? Well excuse my pixel 2XL [emoji23]

Motion sense on! I love some small touches like reducing the alarms and incoming call volume when I reach for the phone. Battery life is better than my 3XL.

Smooth display [emoji1786]

I say open it and see for yourself. Return if you don't like it. One man's food is another man's poison lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] dmb219:
Hi Shoman, good to see you. Hope you are well. Lovin' my P4XL too. It's an awesome piece of equipment. Thanks for all the good times.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Sorry I can't convince you either, sent mine back, long time pixel fan here from the Nexus days, yellow screen tint face on doesn't float my boat whether Google thinks it's correct calibration or not unfortunately, until Google start to at least have some sort of interaction with their customers then they will be long forgotten soon if they don't make changes to that awful development team they have their, Don't listen to sponsored reviewers like display mate because they are full of ****, look for proper reviews on the screen, do a search on Google you'll realise how even Google want to bull**** you as well.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] sharkoparko:
Just return it. Many things to compromise, don't even know what irritates me most with my 4xl. Yellowish screen, battery life, no finger print sensor, getting message that it's running low on memory and need to close background apps... Etc.

I think I am done with pixel line of phones, great years of Nexus are long gone. Used note 9 for few months and even though not greatest camera and not latest Android os for 6 months never got an issue, slow down etc.

And side to side screens, pixel 4xl looks trash next to note.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] wyelkins:
Keep it,
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
My thoughts exactly, loved the smoothness of the phone and the improved night sight, but the missing fingerprint sensor and mainly the screen was a deal-breaker for me, i didn't even care too much about 64gb storage being the minimum (even though it should not exist these days in flagships) I can't live with a screen that looked to me worse than my 2xl. Needed to upgrade so got the s10+ and love the screen and I'm using Google's camera app with HDR so it's curtains closed for Google for me in the near future.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] chakra:
I have a cool story for you bro.

I got an iPhone 11 Pro Max because of the pixel 4 letdown. Still have my 3xl.

Anyway great picture quality four day battery life google saves my photos at full quality for free and got a Apple Watch 5.

May get a pixel 4 later at discount anyway. But not seeing a reason anymore
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] sharkoparko:
Great. I am getting rid of my as well and back to note line of phones. Note 10+ for me. But I have a question. How do you run google camera app on Samsung?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Owch 60hz. Couldn't go back from 90hz now
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Ady1976:
Yeah not worth keeping something your not happy with.

My s10+ is the exynos variant which is pita because most of these Google camera ports are for Qualcomm but the one I'm using is this https://mackytravel.com/working-gcam-port-for-samsung-s10-exynos/

Will probably be a different version if yours is a note but if that's Qualcomm you won't have any issues using a Google camera port do a search on xda if that one doesn't work mate.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
So with all the back and forth comments on keeping or returning, what did you end up deciding on doing?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] mathrania:
I had OG Pixel XL, Pixel 2 XL and then Note 9, Mate 20 Pro and then S10+. I moved to Pixel 4 XL....and i am so much happier... Not missing anything, no complaints at all. Camera itself is a good enough reason for me to keep it. Also, like the voice input for my work emails using Gboard....works flawlessly.

YouTube Videos are all about money....
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Kennyeni:
This answer made me want to keep it! I have been using the phone exclusively for three days, and it's great. The only thing I have some regret on... is paying full price.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] arsenal74:
I still have mine, resale prices on eBay are low and I'm not giving it away. Using an S10+ right now but will probably dust off the 4 XL again at some point.

An ultra wide and more storage and I'd probably be ok with the rest and have it as my daily.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] krabman:
Got in my first Soli fight last night. Was over with my son watching the Seahwaks try and outgun the 9ers for most mistakes which consists of the game on mute, music, and alcohol. Something like 17 facepalms into the game and a lot of beer I swiped past a song. My son opined that he liked that song and swiped it back. I swiped the other way, he swiped back.That devolved into us both fanning the thing for all we were worth. That was when Mrs Crab who doesn't care about football went into facepalm mode. Try having that moment with your Note or fruit product! :)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] superchilpil:
We can't decide if you want to keep it. If you do then keep it and if you don't then send it back.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] sharkoparko:
unfortunately, you are right, once you get used to see 90hz, 60hz looks so 2009. Cant believe I got used to it so much. 60hz looks so chopped.

I see people say they dont care about 90hz, but also they never seen one. Once seen cannot be unseen :)

[rant: cant believe s10+ from the king of display makers Samsung didnt put that option?!?]

I am back to debating keep yellow/warm display, ugly whites (more like gray tones) 4 xl 90hz or great whites, bright cool whites 60hz 10+note :confused:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
It's tough but I would rather have the 7 pro lol. All the specs but best screen. I can't even enjoy the pixel cause the screen tints are awful. Debating whether to try the replacement or just get the 7t pro and give up on the pixel this year.

And yeah you don't think you notice that much the 90hz until you to back to 60, feels so choppy
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] sharkoparko:
7 pro no always on display yet! Deal breaker.

Replacement will be the same.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Even though I'm fine with ambient display it is crazy oneplus haven't given us the option for AOD yet