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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] relaxable:
I need/want a new phone - but Pixel sucks

OK - I understand - if I buy this expensive, flagship phone and everybody tells me the phone sucks, not gonna make me feel too good.

I still use Nexus 6. It was/is a great phone, and it still works reasonably well for me - but, I'm ready for a new phone.

It's got to be one I can root. That has/will have custom ROMs. That has an unlocked/unlockable bootloader.

What I'd like in a phone (that Pixel certainly doesn't have): a HUGE screen - ideally foldable phone, if not, get me as close to 7" as possible. (While the Pixel 4XL has a "bigger" screen than the Nexus 6, released in 2014, they really both have almost identical total area since the new 'bigger' screen is narrower.)

Support for 5G radio bands.

microSD storage support (Dual sim would be nice also)

A BRIGHT SCREEN that I can see in bright sunlight. (This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE fail on Pixel 4XL as far as I can tell. HUGE HUGE HUGE fail. Showstopper for me.)

Onboard memory consistent with today's standards (Google 64gb starting memory on a 2020 flagship phone??????)

And a phone that doesn't have so many initial manufacturing/quality/software bugs would be welcomed, but a huge surprise if it has 'Google' name on it.

I looked back - the Nexus 6 cost just under $650 when I bought it in Nov '14 from Google (32gb model).

So, with Black Friday $699 price for a Pixel4XL - could justify a purchase if the phone didn't suck so badly (from my perspective) - but for this POS - just can't do it..... Or can I?

There isn't a phone out there that has what I want.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
I'm somewhat surprised this is still going on. Usually by this time the haters have moved on but I suppose it's tough to go when the heavier spec phones don't work as well but you don't want to buy this one which works better because the "value" isn't there. I would have to really stop and think to number the phones I moved to from a Pixel and then left for yet another Pixel. Those OnePlus phones... Those guys are all trying to get the Pixel features, they're easily the most requested feature over there. And you can get em. You can have the Pixel camera which is buggy and doesn't work as well. You can have the dialer which is buggy and missing some features. It goes on and on. Meanwhile I've learned my lesson. When someone makes a phone I actually enjoy using more I'll buy it. Not going to fall for specs again. Not going to try and convert a One Plus to the Pixel experience again. I'm off that treadmill.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Juice3250:
I'm a little tired of the whole thing, just install gcam to your phone and boom, you have a Pixel camera. Not true at all. I'm not buying into the lie of trying to install and customize my phone to look and act like a Pixel. Just buy a Pixel. Specs don't matter anymore.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] techbeck:
Got the 128gb XL coming tomorrow. Battery life is dependent on how you use the phone. If you are a heavy user, chances are no battery will satisfy you. And considering I have a charger at home, in my car, and at work...I doubt I will have to many issues. Plus, has to be better battery life than my current phone, Nexus 6p. I liked the 6p but sadly, it is showing its age.

Used to like the expandable storage on phones, but with online cloud storage and how easy it is to offload files/pics...not that big a deal really.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mgymnop:
No Pixel 4 XL for me. But it doesn't mean it's a bad phone. It's just not for me. I had every Nexus or Pixel phone that was built. But not anymore. I am not willing to pay a premium for in my eyes a mediocre phone. You are happy with your Pixel 4 great. There are people happy with their Toyota Corolla too. My expectations are higher.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
The Pixel 4 XL a Toyota Corolla? This is why I don't like analogies. LOL
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Still better than a Yugo! ???
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
Enjoying every min.

So far no issues, Great phone.

No corola lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] rodcpierce:
This is exactly why I've went with the P4XL. I'm a HUGE OnePlus fan. But they need to fix the camera. I came from a P2XL and tried to switch to the 6T, just couldn't do it. And the only thing holding me back was camera quality.

If OP fixes the camera, it's going to be damn hard to beat for people that rank camera importance highly.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Some_Ghost:
I am a pretty moderate user sometimes a heavy user and last night I got exactly 8 hours of SOT before I juiced up, with a bunch of apps restricted, smooth display turned off, and motion sense on, and AOD off except for notifications.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] kburtonjr04:
My kids and I just talked about this over the weekend. Fake news!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Shaftamle:
[MENTION=1889937]localceleb[/MENTION] IMO the Pixel 4 is overpriced. As is the phone I have, the Pixel 3xl. We can all thank Apple for setting that trend.

That being said. If you know how to manage your phone and mod it, it's worth the money. At least in my opinion.

In closing, ANYONE that tells you the Pixel sucks clearly has NO IDEA! So I would just tell your simple friends to go get their iPhone and keep playing Flappy Birds. Leave the tech to the people who actually have a clue.

When your battery lasts 2 days, you have Viper making mp3 sound amazing, Tasker automating **** all while have a nice clean organised home screen, then remind them they still paid $300 more for their iSuck phone. [emoji6]

Be together, not the same!

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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dutchy716:
Coming from a 3XL and I love my Pixel 4XL. My wife had a pixel 2 XL and I got her an S10 plus and she absolutely hated it so now she has a Pixel 4 XL as well.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
When I was a kid I had a TR7, didn't know if it was going to kill me or I was going to kill it. O_o
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Badger50:
Hahahahahaha...nice! Another great creation by Triumph Spitfire! ???
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
There should've been more reviews like this:

https://youtu.be/QXo39lJY6XM
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] localceleb:
Yeah, after having the phone for over a month now I can confidently say that my only gripe is the price tag. My first Pixel was the Pixel 2 XL and that was the first phone I've ever owned that I still loved after 2 years. I expect to have this phone a while and the price tag is easier to accept when I know that I'm not going to be selling it in a year.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] relaxable:
I returned both the Pixel 4XL and 3aXL that I got directly from Google before the 15-day return period - huge disappointment - especially Google software (gapps/assistant).

Got the undersized memory version for $699 black Friday - price not the problem - it's just such a crappy design.

Ordered the OnePlus 7Pro for $499 with double the storage of the Pixels. Bigger battery. Better/bigger/brighter screen.

OnePlus and Google both use Fedex, but Oneplus sends it express/2-day, google sends it by the slow truck to China and takes more than a week. Cheapskates.

OnePlus actually comes with a clear TPU case. I had to waste money and still have a nice Ringke Fusion case with no phone. (Lots of people noticed/complimented the case!)

Luckily, I could decide the Pixel 3aXL was not for me before I opened the case I bought for it, so can return it.

Almost kept the Pixel 4XL but so glad I didn't - you people who think the phone is great - just wait until it breaks in 4 places as the frame has severe weak points - it's already happening. Be very careful with this phone if you are going to keep it!

https://www.cnet.com/news/watch-the-google-pixel-4-xl-bend-and-snap/
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
That's old news and it's not already happening, it happened because someone bent it on purpose. I've had the phone for 8 weeks and there's no bending or cracking here.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] relaxable:
It's happening "to real people" - I've read about it and if you search you'll find it.

It is the fault of the consumer - they drop it, or maybe had it in a pocket and sat down, or something like that - but, no other flagship phone breaks this easily.

So hold on to your precious Pixel 4XL and don't ever drop it - you'll be OK. Don't put it in your pocket just to be safe. Hang on to it tightly.

I'll be moving on - Got the Oneplus 7Pro for $499! Wow. Much bigger brighter and better screen.

And thank God you can run Android 9 on it until 10 gets less buggy.

And actually use TWRP and make image backups and such.

I have had only Google phones since Nexus One. Then Galaxy Nexus. Nexus 4. Nexus 5. Nexus 6. Loved them all, but I don't want an inferior Apple knock-off, and that seems to be all Google can do.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
It's really not that serious. It's perfectly fine in my front pocket and everyone else's. Android 10 is also great for my use so don't know what bugs you're talking about.[emoji1365]
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wolfeyes30:
And if you drive your vehicle into a telephone pole, your vehicle will have damage, right? Why can't the auto industry make a non damaging vehicle? I don't understand.

Enjoy your OnePlus. Smh
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] shiftr182:
I thought about the 7 pro but I'm a Google fan, and I hate curved screens, plus Pixels have a better camera. I have tried several other phones and always end up back on Pixels...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wolfeyes30:
Same here but that curve screen is way too much imo. Had the 3T between the Nexus 6 and the P2XL. They make nice phones no doubt but I prefer a Pixel over a OnePlus. One pet peeve for me with OnePlus phones is the hardware button layout and the useless alert slider. I want volume and power on one side only.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/12/23/pixel-4-readers-choice-best-smartphone-2019/

Well apparently the Pixel 4 is the people's champ for Android Police.View attachment 4909281
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Inerent:
This doesn't necessarily mean it's a good phone. ???
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Play!Ya:
MKBHD has declared Pixel 4 as the biggest bust phone of the year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OnwUz-I2GI

I don't really get the hate. Yes, at the full price this phone doesnt look that promising but at USD699 or CAD879, this phone is really good. I only have a few gripes with phone, biggest is the base storage of 64GB and the other is battery could have been atleast 4000mAh considering additional features. Other than these, I am happy with camera. Screen is one of the most beautiful and its plenty bright. Assistant integration is amazing. Phone is fluidly fast and the android experience is the best in the market.

Having been the user of OnePlus One and OnePlus 3, I have loved those phones but they could never gave me the best user experience with software. My last phone Pixel 2 XL was the first of my 5 Android phones for which I never felt the need to root it. It was already so great on stock rom.

For me, its not the best phone of the year and certainly not the biggest bust of the year. It's the phone I wanted and despite its shortcomings I love it because of its positive aspects. The user experience and camera are the topmost features for me and I couldnt get those in other phones.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Flockrock:
I love pixel phones and was so excited for the Pixel 4 but the Pixel 4 is just a dissapointment. No fingerscreen, not even in-display, no wide-angle lens, STILL an extra 100€ for the 128GB, not even the most recent CPU, not a enough bright display, the radar sensor is something you play with the first day but because there is not really any use you won't use it anyway. Then the storage is still UFS 2.1, and the RAM is just about enough. Battery could be bigger (especially the non XL). No 5G. Ah yes and not to forget aux.

I mean that are all things I can live with, but not for almost 1000€. The Pixel 4 XL with 128GB is 999€ in Germany and that's a price I just don't want to pay, even though I'm the type of person who always wants the best.

If it would cost 550€ for the base variant I still would call it an expensive phone, but at that price I would consider buying it.

It hurts to say but Apples iPhone offers more for the money.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
It doesn't mean that it's a bad phone either. [emoji2371]

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Spoiler! I didn't get to watch it yet. LOL. But for real, if the Pixel 4 is the bust of the year, we're living in great times. I can understand why though because, again, in a vacuum it's a great phone but compared to the competition, it's definitely overpriced.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Overpriced, yes. But that's only if you're paying full price. Even the XL is minimum $200 off anywhere you go if you wait a week. The Pixel 4 costs $599 and that's not bad. If you want a Verizon model you can probably get it for 1/2 price. The only thing I have a problem with is the crap battery. They really need to figure that out. A previous poster said iPhone offers more.. and that I don't agree with. But their battery kills this device's performance. It's my only regret.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] dhacke:
For years i was a xperia phone user (my last phone was an xz2) and these phones weren't bad. And i'm still thankful at sony that they contribute to the pure aosp and that they have their open devices program.

But nevertheless i change to pixel 4 xl and can't complain. For my usecases it's totally enough.

I can understand the negativ reviews because for that price you get 2019 flagships which have better hardware (for example storage, RAM, battery) and only from that point of view the price is IMHO too high. Of course you can get the phone cheaper over your provider but not everyone likes it (for example i refuse that way and prefer to pay once the full price so that i own the phone really).

Do i regret the change to the pixel? Well no because which i really like on my pixel is the Software support (major Updates and for me even more important fast and complete monthly security patches).

And a pure aosp GSI work perfectly on my pixel (even camera does it's job). Atm i only use phhussons gsi on android 10 base with no Gapps and love it.

I believe if you want the best pure android experience the pixel 4/4 xl are great phones. But not everyone rates the fact as high as i do it.

The most people don't look at that fact; what matters for them is the data sheet.

So IMHO you pay a lot of money for the circumstance that they is no OEM between you which can hold back updates. And not everyone is willing to pay that extra money.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Ghisy:
Honestly, I'm starting not to like MKBHD anymore. He was really about tech before, now I feel he's just about the views/hype. He says he's using a OnePlus 7T Pro currently but I always feel he's a little too much of an Apple fanboy. I could be wrong though but that's the impression I've been getting recently.

Anyway, rant over and I agree with you: if I can find a 128 GB in a couple of months for 700 euros (I'm in Europe), I might pull the trigger. 1000 euros is way too much for this phone. The 4 XL is a very good phone, just not as much as people wanted it to be for the money (me included).
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Inerent:
Who the hell is mhkb? ? Some sort of kid 20-30 years old? Seriously, we should listen to this kid? ? Pixel is a great phone, just not the best.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
That's the problem, you need deals to make it worthwhile. I'm hoping by the Pixel 6 XL, I get phones every other year, they get their act together and either match what the competition is offering and/or lower their prices. I''m willing to bet the 5 and 6 will still have something to complain about.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Flockrock:
Calling someone kid because you do not share their opinion does not make you seem very grown up
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Everyone gives deals. I don't think the retail price is for individual users like we are, we get deals almost immediately and quicker if you buy from a carrier. The retail price is for corporate and even then I don't think they pay that. Apple, Android everything is discounted from the get go. As I said, the battery is where they fall down. I like the feel of the Pixel 4 over the iPhone 11 Pro by far and although I don't have it rumor is that the camera is pretty equal. What exactly are you referring to when you say "match the competition"? I mean ram is sufficient, display is great, camera great, speed great, call quality sufficient, battery ....hmmm.. lol
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Hardware specs others and myself have mentioned earlier in the thread. 4000+ mAh battery size, wide angle lens, 128GB starting size, 512GB option, 8GB or more option, 60 FPS rear and front cameras, brighter 800+ nits screen, and video quality up to Samsung and/or Apple standards. Obviously I've put a price on software experience for myself because I've stuck with the 4 XL but hardware has left a little to be desired. I've compromised and I'm okay with all those hardware downsides but again, it's should be $150-$200 off the original price off from the start of they're going to skimp. In my case, at least I have the Oh So Orange for "exclusivity".
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Leaving out battery, which is just ridiculous for this phone, I'm not sure any of those things are way better outside the Pixel 4 line. But for me I don't need that much storage and the ram is sufficient for me as well. I think the only phone that is better is the iPhone 11 Pro and the Pro Max. Their footprint is slightly larger and the camera is ugly but it's a better device for sure. I wouldn't buy a Sammy if it was the last phone on earth. Where did I put my Princess landline phone? But there are two drawbacks to the iPhone, and believe me I almost went for it this time. #1 the price is so ridiculous that I could never justify it. The best price I could get for the 11 Pro was $999 and the P4 was $599. That is a huge sum of money. The other thing is that it's an iPhone. Yeah I know I'm an Android snob but I just like the freedom of rooting if I want, installing apps that I want and changing appearance if I want. I just don't want to be locked into that world... yet. And that might change next year for all I know. There was one other thing but not a deal breaker like the first two. It was bigger and heavier and noticeably so. Side by side the Pixel 4 feels much better in my hand and (most likely) my pocket than the 11 Pro. My lifestyle would not allow me the Max or the XL line so I can't compare those even though this is an XL forum. (I just like it better over here. lol)

I think comparing phones to the Pixel 4 lines Apple is the only competitor. Everything else is ... well just everything else.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Oh I agree with you [emoji817] with Samsung devices. My in-laws got Note 10+ 5G phones on a BOGO deal and while messing around with it, I totally don't miss their software. What's up with there app drawer NOT being alphabetical by default and they dumb down things like the screen resolution and the photo/video resolutions by default as well.

Problem is Google priced 4 XL okay versus the iPhone 11 Pro Max but the 4 is overpriced versus the 11. And overall, they didn't take into account someone like OnePlus which, by the numbers, is a better deal. The only thing that OnePlus does weaker than Pixel phones is the camera and it's not that far behind. That's why I keep reiterating it should've been price close to OnePlus prices but Google being Google, they priced it "cheaper" than Samsung and Apple.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] emmaqq:
I purchased a used from reputable phone store seller on ebay.

Checked everything works and such.

I used the app 'Droid info' and 'Phone INFO'

The Chipset is Qualcomm Technologies, Inc SM6150 on both apps.

Shouldn't it be 675?
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] 106IFA:
https://www.channel9mobiles.com/product-view/samsung-galaxy-a70-6gb-128gb-blue-640/

It's supposed to have the 6150. That's what mine has too.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] spaxon:
It is Qualcomm Snapdragon 675 (SM6150), so don't worry... :)

http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=processor&id=773&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_675_sm6150View attachment 4863675
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] TiTiB:
That is one cool site. Wish I would've known about it when I was deciding what phone to buy.
[P8lite Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mranonymoussssss:
Im using the unofficial bootleggers on my huawei p8 lite 2017 and the safety net always fails. I flashed Magisk on this (latest) through TWRP and it isnt working. Its on android 9 and i have tried multiple magisk modules and editing my build.prop manually. Ive searched around for a bit and have found nothing but magisk hide tricks, which i tried first. Help please <3
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mickeyt500:
Have u guys tried to install Slithers SCLPC++ on ur smartphone? I tried, works good, all the animations n stuff...looks really cool...only downpart cant press any of the buttons, i put forward the following in slithers thread:

"

Hey slither.....great work.....i went to the edgelib site n it stated there that it can be installed on smartphone....so i went ahead n installed it...works like a charm (just the cube roatating and all) but neverthe less its probably the best interface so far i have had for a non touch screen....

There are a few things though i would like to ask you:

1. Is it possible to assign the opening of the icons (music, programs, contacts) to the numberpad, that way it will be fully functional on smartphones as well.

2. The centre button of the Dpad assigned for opening app rather than closing SCLPC (only for smartphone, for PPC i thnk the present config is best)

3. Make some function for up key in dpad of smartphone, like the same function as swipe in touch screen does?

Is this possible bud?

Keenly waiting for what u have to say.

Thanks alot bud,

Once again great app.....

"

What do u guys think? If we can be generous we can probably get slither to make it functional for our non-touchscreen phones.....and it looks amazing....
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] showaco:
Sound's cool, what the thread url so we can post more requests for smartphone? Maybe ifhe knows there's a demand, he'll help us out.
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mickeyt500:
Here is the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=358102

I will post a video of how it runs on my phone soon.....

and heres the download that ran on my phone:

http://rapidshare.com/files/89795344/SCLPC___3D_0-051__WM05-WM06_.zip
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] mickeyt500:
I have uploaded the video, its in the cube3d.zip file....its in 3gp format...its not that clear cause its recorded from mobile, but i have displayed 3 of the skins i downloaded and how it looks......

Let me know what you guys think
[Non-Touchscreen Windows Mobile Other] pongothemagnificent:
i always wanted to test this app on my phone but i always though it woulndt work, but for my surprise it does,il be willing to post on the authors original post so that he can know that we smartphone users want hes app fully functional on our phones.