yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] celldoc:
Dear Schaps, Keep on doing your magic, without regard to the childishness of some of those posters. Your ROMs have been the first and best I have used.

I almost never post, but I have been part of this community for a long time, and have to say, there are 100s of supporters for every childish post. This is spare time stuff, get it straight whiners. Even if it takes another year, we are lucky Schaps sacrifices personal time to make these fun ROMs. From what I have read, most people on this site are like me, doing stuff we like in our SPARE time, like I am writing this as my toddler is watching spongebob...

NO APOLOGIES, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!! I will gladly wait for your next ROM.

Dan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] outkasted:
Schap's m8 remember that in this world you would always stumble upon forces that will try to exert a negetive effect on you.... how ever humble n pure your heart may be....

you have put immense hadwork in this project which has shown in the vids u have uploaded....

let the "no-good" people carry on with their whining... coz we know where we can find the updates on your progress....

keep up the good work n all the best m8

TC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
Bump for great justice.

Original
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cngo83:
"...and the public beta will be released on February 1st!"

Where is the package ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cngo83:
WHo knows ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Cal-El:
Patience my friend, patience! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cngo83:
grrrr so long :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] biscuits1978:
Has much changed as far as how it looks compared to the screenshots? I have been patient and understanding, but I (maybe along with others) would like to know how things look as things progress along?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
http://touchxperience.com/en/news/35-touchxperience/72-touchxperience-public-beta.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Blueangel69:
it looks like we r waiting for ages.

Soon im going to be a grand father.

Serious question"...do i have 2 pay :P....."?

Hey Schaps, wen will u realese the job bro ?:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cngo83:
Ty Cbass

Thank you Schap's for giving me hope to do long time for nothing. I hope you'll make a lot of money by playing as you do with donators and NEW donators.

Good luck to others who can wait.

This is my last word on this topic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] crissg:
I hope so. I'm tired of the whining.

Neither Schap, nor any of the other

Contributors

to this community owe you anything. Even if you've tossed him 5 euros, it doesn't give you the right to expect him to work by your expectations. If you don't want to wait until he's ready to release it, then don't. There are plenty of here to test without you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] biscuits1978:
So how do I get involved in the private beta? I would like to offer whatever testing assistance I can!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drkfngthdragnlrd:
Anyone else having problems loading the "http://www.touchxperience.com/" site. Everytime I try loading it over the last few days I just get an error, site not found page.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ITdAnGeR:
have the same problem.

Maybe he not paid the bill :p

i am waiting i am very curious :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
agreed if you can't wait, keep mouth closed and move on, big mouths have already caused enough problems for us all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] macsbac:
People have every right to voice their concerns when they have made donations that Schap has clearly been asking for. Contribute and donate appear continuously on his web site. If Schap does not want these people to be critical then he should give them their money back or at least keep them updated regularly. All this sad episode has done has resulted in is raising concerns about donating money in order to support part time developers in advance. Anyone who now donates to this project before release is mad.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] opajec:
Sorry, but this is not normaly.now, we are first of march and what we have?

Nothing. After 8 month's...:( Yes,i know, now come 1000 comments :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sd73ta:
the only people complaining are the one who dont contribute here at all. and so what if you made a donation. look it up. then youll understand it was a donation. why not write your own ui and stfu already
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] macsbac:
Developers releasing freeware often rely on donations. I am sorry releasing videos and teasers, building interest and then asking for donations without actually delivering anything is an abuse of those willing to donate. Releasing private betas to those who donate is nothing short of trying to part people from their cash. I don't care about schaps UI and i have no intention of using it even if it is released. However this disastrous piece of vaporware could impact any donations other developers who can deliver could get.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
POEPLE!

Honestly, it was just a big scam to get money before he sold out to another company... Even the people who did donate to be a "beta" tester got nothing in there emails accept letters... no cab, no file ect. If you donate at this point it is your own fault. He has made some amazing things, just not a new rom to use...lol

OH! by the way, my computer is dying as you read this... can anyone donate some money or some computers to me so i can continue my work?.. I can build roms from the ground up but i cant seem to put a hard drive in my computer, i know it sounds weird, but seriously...:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] IronManDS:
Hell, I remember being fussed at 6 months ago when I said this was vaporware. And, in all honesty, any of the "golly-geez" generated by the way-too-early preview that Schap gave us is gone. TF2D and now 6.5 have stolen any of the thunder he may have had with this release.

Not to bad mouth him, but he's got a lot of this coming. Sure, I appreciate his hard work and like his ROM's. And, people here need to realize that REAL LIFE is real and I'm sure that he, like the rest of us, is very busy. In light of that, anyone who has not given him a donation toward the new ROM, myself included, should mind their own. Those who have donated for the purpose of this ROM, however, are entitled to say their piece - good or bad. But, Schap needs to man up, come on this forum and tell those who still care that it was a pipe dream and just not going to materialize. I'm sure they'd be good with that.

I, for one, have moved on from any interest in this project and wouldn't flash it if it were available today. But, that's just me. There are others who are still interested. I guess.....

Best of luck to you, Schap. You had a great run as a chef here.

J
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
i have two older compaq proliant servers that still work, but thats all i have for ya.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
LOL

wAS A QUOTE FROM ONE OF SHAP'S STATEMENTS, MENT as a joke but thank you!..:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
I am so glad I am waiting until it's released to donate. I never, EVER, pay upfront for something without a contract.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
I also don't seem to be able to access the website.

It would be a great disappointment from any point of view if anyone took 'donations' and then closed their website & ran off with the money.

Hopefully Schap is just running very late. Though this would not explain why Schap's kept so quiet...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] brynweb:
Maybe he's dead? People die all the time for all sorts of reasons.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] amkaos:
this is the definition of vapour ware and thread should be locked.

if it does appear, simple enough to start discussion again.

this is now irrelevant.

no good faith anymore
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rkmoray:
I donated in good faith. It looks like P.T. Barnum was talking about me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] souvath:
i agree with you ! mod pls close this thread !

or just burry it !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Well...

Look at all the people that donated, they are upset, maybe you could understand that a little more and let them vent. People have a right to be upset when they have been misguided and taken advantage of.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
I just got an email from him.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msd24200:
:eek: what the hell is that all about? what is he doing? i don't understand whats up with this big change there seems to be with him, it doesn't make any sense at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] marimba:
I'm available for testing, waiting for link
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] biscuits1978:
Uh, dude, I think it was a joke. It looks like a scam e-mail with Schap's name superimposed on it in RED. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mallyda1:
Leave Schap's alone

I think that it is very ungreatfull for people to be getting upset at Schap's.

Did you all forget all the developments that he has given us?

I know alot of you are still using his Programs in some way!

The man is a Cook and like any good Chef notthing is ready before its time...

So for all of you Crying and bad mouthing the Man, just remember what he has done for our community and start respecting him for what he is and has been for all of Us...

Schap's Keep up the good work as always man.

Oh for the member who posted that scam email, watch out how you try to give people a bad name, what goes around comes around!!!

And remember good things comes to those who wait...:):):)

Mallyda1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] myteematt:
Dead Thread

This is a dead thread, please delete
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] biscuits1978:
In 3 months, it will be 1 year since he told us about this 'project'. If there are any good things that come to those who wait, in my opinion its not going to be very much. Lets think about it -- if he was really going to release a product that will BLOW away everything that is currently in our phones or that WILL come to our phones and future phones, don't you think he would be talking this project up a lot more? I mean, c'mon, I don't even think his website is back up yet.

I'm sure all that have used (or is using) his ROMs in the past or present appreciate his work. And for those faithful they probably have donated to him in the past or present for his work. I'm sure all the people you say are bad-mouthing the guy wouldn't be doing it if he was a lot more active in providing progress updates, or at the very least growing a pair of bollocks and tell us he has discontinued this product. Anybody would expect one or the other, we're not getting either one.

So I join all the other users that have said this, with all due respect - MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] IronManDS:
I've said my piece on the issue. Multiple times :) I was damn-near stoned for saying this was vaporware over 6 months ago. With regard to closing this thread, I say:

Hell no, don't close it! All it takes is a little bit of maturity on the part of the commentators and, in all honesty, a little bit of balls on the part of Schap to bring this matter to a resolution acceptable to all. The lack of Schap stepping up to the plate to apologize to those who donated to this project, I believe, is the source of the sour feelings.

Schap doesn't owe me anything; not this ROM, not an apology. I didn't donate to him; ergo, he owes me nothing. However, there are people who were, apparently, taken by him and he owes them an apology. Since that's not likely, let them come here an vent. It's probably the only return they'll get on that investment.

J
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rkmoray:
As one of those Barnumites (There is a sucker born every minute) I agree. Leave this thread open so we can vent, cry, and hope we are wrong.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] newbro:
Just close the thread so no one can whine about it already. If Schaps has any updates he can just create a new thread anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
I VOTE!

I vote to keep it open for the many people schap's took money from and didnt deliver?..... Is it that horrible to let people vent?..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
How many more times do you want the poor guy to have to read your comments and apologize? He has given over a year of his life to the project, and sacrificed his marriage because of the project, and for what ? How many of you have actually donated ? What do you seriously think he has made in donations ?

How many of you use Advanced Config ? thousands ? If that app came from MS or Adobe or such it would cost you all $20 or more a piece. I will bet maybe 10% of the people that use that app actually donated. Yet he keeps updating it and improving it.

Unfortunately this community is about 20% givers and about 80% takers. So until you have given even half of what schaps has given to this community, why don' t you all just shut up , because I seriously doubt that any of you , on this page or the last few have given a dime to this project, to Advance Config, or any of the other roms and apps you have taken from this community.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] moddin:
+1. I bet its a whole lot of a hell lower than 10%
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] amkaos:
completely disingenuous .. if there was even one release, there is substance .

even a beta public release goes a long ways towards perfection.

But his site is down etc.. HE has abandoned it

everyone fully appreciates what he has done.

the complaints are relevant to what has not been done.

the stark reality is this :: i tearful email is a total cop out.

to blame those who waited And donated for months on end and Then complained is a built-in way to back out of the project.

im not smart enough to contribute as a developer--i can barely follow simple instructions already perfected. I never have complained about this project and dont do so now. i have no emotional investment here.

if he resurfaces for developement, he can rub our noses in it and we will be happy to take it.

i bet all-in he aint gonna tho.

thanx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
hmm...

And by the way i have donated, thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Androol:
Whats the motivation?

I donated the amount I feel fitting for just the Advanced config tool.

I have gotten the emails, and signed up for the forum and all that, one lead-on after another.

I felt Schap's was legit because of the nice tools he developed.

What I can't understand is the motivation for stringing along the touchxpeirience thing. I try reading between the lines of his announcements, and it really seems like some kind of gimmick or phishing scheme at this point.

The announcements only re-pique interest, but offer nothing but excuses, and by now Schap's is well aware that he can't predict when a beta will be finished, and that by continually doing so he only breeds disappointment. So the question is why? I'm sorry, but the only motivations for this I can think of are negative. I know there was a push to sign up for the forum to get your hands on a public and a private beta, which never came. Why?

Also, we all have computer problems its true. However, I would expect a talented developer (such as Schap's) to know to back things up and also not be so hampered by technical problems. Either Schap's is extremely unlucky and slow to learn, or the technical problems are made up excuses.

I think Schap's is smart, talented, and must have something in mind, whether its completing touchxperience or not is a mystery.

I'm sure this is going to set this thread on fire, but I just wanted to get it out there, because its something I've been wondering about.

:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
I've donated before, and I will do it again. I always do it anonymously if that is possible, and I refuse to donate to somebody without them having done something already that positively effected me. I am not paying you to develop for me, I am paying you to compensate for what you were willing to put in of your own accord. If/when Julien releases touchxperience, and I use it, he will see money from me... but I doubt he will release it before we all move on to a bigger/better device or OS version (7 vs 6.5/6.1), let alone release it at all.

My main problem here is the apparent lacking on Julien's part. His website is abandoned, his last update here was last year, and he has done nothing to make up to the people who donated specifically for this project. I feel he owes those donators an update, a product, or a refund. I am not owed anything, but the people who are out money need something done for them by Julien. He has their money, they have nothing to show for it. Seems pretty simple to me. I can only hope he does it, and one of those people who donated share the outcome with the rest of us.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cione:
Tester

Let me know if you need help testing the interface also
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
I am sorry if I am trivializing the hundreds of thousands of dollars you invested in this project. What I am saying is that investors and banks invest thousnds of dollars everyday in new projects and new businesses. Some succeed and some fail miserably. It is the way things go.

Bernie Madoff bilked his investors out of 50 billion dollars, people lost their life savings to this man, their whole retirement. You people gave what, 10, 20, 40 dollars to schaps ? Well guess what he gave a year of his life and his personal life to you trying to make this work. Well guess what it didn't work. Forty dollars is a lot to you ? Well it is a lot to me too, but I give at least a dollar everyday to the homeless people I pass on the street and expect nothing from them.

So he promised some fantastic results and couldn't deliver and now you are out $ 20 well he is out over a year of his life, among the other things in his life, trying to deliver for you all.

He has done has made some great contributions to this community. And I doubt he is rolling in the dough for all that he has done. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. So this time he failed and you that have financed a year of his life for $20 , have nothing to show for it. .........oh well............you lost 10, 20, 40 dollars ? He lost a lot more, and now you are all publicly pissing on him. Why do I feel that he would gladly trade $40 for his life back. Keep things in perspective.

.......................................I just sayin...................................
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blaker13:
Well...

Im sorry thats how you feel, but honestly i feel schap's did nothing to his life by doing any of this? Are you personell friends with Julian, or your just guessing that everything he said was the truth? And to be honest he made a fortune of donations here.... Im not trying to be rude or whatever but... you cant do what he did and not even post a reply or a "sorry" and not get torched for it. When you dont even give a update.... That shows even less respect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] deepthroat:
well I think all has been said and done ...let us move on - let this be a history, whatever it was
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cbass:
Investors are needed when there are things to invest in. Materials need investing, machinery needs investing, employees need investing. Three things that are the biggest cost of a small business starting up, none of which were necessary. You don't start a business without the reasonable expectation of personal cost, which is what you're acting he is owed. Something makes me think France has a welfare system should he be that bad off.

I've spent 5 years of my life trying to find a way to trim polar bear claws using only my housekey and laptop. Please send donations via paypal. It's not my fault it will never see mass consumption or release, I spent my time on it and I recieved 4 speeding tickets and lost my license due to this project. And really, what's $20 to you?

See how stupid that sounded?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] biscuits1978:
What a waste.

Overall, the point is is that the majority of people on here don't feel like they're owed the ROM that Schap has been working on, they just either want progress or an announcement that things have been suspended. I don't see either, and neither do others. Hence the complaints!

You can cry about the bad line of events that has impacted Schap, and everyone's had their 'I hate my f-ing life' moments. 9 times out of 10, its usually the person's fault for making the wrong decisions (please note that its not everyone, just most). BUT if I have issues with life, I don't expect people in a forum to help bail me out. Man up and take care of business yourself.

As for me, I'm not going to pretend I know what happened to Schap, and I'm definitely not going to play referee to determine if his crap-hitting-the-fan moments were his fault. I'm not in these forums to evaluate people's lives.

That whole line about donating for Advanced Config? Yeah, its a great tool and does many good things. For me, it happens to be one of those tools that is cooked into ROMs -- that's how I came across it. And I figure if Schap didn't develop it, someone else would have (KaiserTweak does all the stuff I need, so I have 2 options). I appreciate the work that was put into it, but I'm not going to substitute that work for the work he started for TouchXperience.

I don't think Schap wanted to start fights over this thread, especially over a product that was supposed to be revolutionary. All I asked for a week ago was to just close the thread. It's not doing any good to keep this thread open, except allow others to 'vent'. If you want to vent -- make a blog, go do some Tai Chi, shoot a hand gun at a practice range, or invest in a punching bag.

I'm done wasting my time in this thread.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Inmortal:
delete......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] silasrye:
nooooo

don't ever delete this thread. I love it. It has a life of its own.