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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Juice3250:
Here is my problem with having a ton of storage. For me, 128gb is more than enough. If I had double that or beyond, and filled it up, there's no doubt that it would not run as fast. The more storage you use, the more the processor has to work to access those files and data.

The battery life on my Pixel 4 XL has been more than sufficient for me.

Aside from price, name one thing that the OnePlus 7 Pro or 7T does better than the Pixel 4 XL.

One thing that pushed me over the edge in buying my 4xl was watching Juan Bagnell's video comparison of the video rendering speed of the Pixel 4 vs the 7t and two other top phones. The 7T came in dead last while the Pixel 4 rendered the video in a least amount of time.

Phones are more than just what the spec sheet says.

Just because one phone has more features, doesn't make it the better phone. I'm talking to you Samsung. My 4 XL does everything I need it to do and it takes the best photos of any smartphone out there. Period.

There's also no reason for anyone to have to pay full price for a phone these days. There are deals all the time to knock down the price.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] shiftr182:
I figure it's just like anything else that we buy... What I like might not be what you like and vise versa. I would never buy a Ford, but some people love them, and they are willing to pay for them. I also would never buy an iPhone and I think that iPhones cost too much for a phone that you can't customize, but a lot of people love them and are willing to pay for them. I like Pixels, and I pay for them. Hopefully I can get a decent price, but I'm willing to pay for them. If I felt the price was too high, I probably wouldn't buy one.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
A little off topic but

https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/12/28/pixel-4a-xl-rumors-leaks-renders/
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I literally just saw that. Lol. If these apps don't get on board with face unlock I might bite. It's become annoying.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] croques:
Would you care to elucidate why that should be on a Random Access Memory?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Juice3250:
No...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] billyt1:
I've got a 3XL and love it despite all of the negative hype. I recently bought a OP 7 Pro and it's jus as good but the 3XL is faster in terms of downloading and installing from playstore,also surfing the web. So I went ahead and Flashed the 3XL port rom for the 7 Pro so my Google Fi would switch carriers. To tell the truth the 3XL is a better phone til you flash that port rom onto the 7 Pro an realize Google should put this kind of hardware into thier phones.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
Speed is the same across the storage as it all addresses equally but because blocks can't be fully filled you end up sending bits to cache, repackaging them, and writing them again to better utilize the storage which starts happening at about 70% full. For this reason it's recommended that your max fill doesn't exceed 70% capacity of the available storage. For example if you expect to use about 80 gigs 128 will be fine, much more and you'll start the repackaging process and see significantly slower read/writes. So yeah, his statement isn't exactly correct.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
However, the very process you describe is delayed on Google, whereas this is not the case with OnePlus. The reason, besides the use of F2FS, is the new logic of a super partition with many dynamic virtual partitions in it, while OnePlus still uses fixed size partitions in EXT4 and does not use the dynamical partitioning system supported by the new Linux kernels. A OnePlus therefore becomes faster and slower rapidly than a pixel would.

This is an approach that Apple has also been using for macOS and iOS for a while now, as it is very beneficial in terms of a long-term, high speed read/write access.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
For now you're ahead of the game staying within the 70 percent rule, your performance will remain much the same as new and you remove the overhead which also effects battery life.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] peoplesindian:
So I was one of the long time Pixel/Nexus user that jumped ship when the P4XL was launched because I was disappointed in the design and lack of fingerprint, ultra wide, and bezel less design.

I bought the OnePlus 7 Pro and used it for 2 and half months and guess what, I traded it yesterday for a P4XL and it was the best decision. I hate how many "big tech" YouTubers down played this phone. Face unlock is so fast that I've forgotten about the fingerprint, and I never really used the ultra wide lens on the 7 Pro.

But what really brought me back, the camera and just the simplicity of the software. It just runs and is so smooth. Never again shall I doubt the Google and the Pixel line.

This is the way.........
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Devhux:
It drives me crazy as well about how the tech media are downplaying the Pixel 4 XL. Is it perfect? Hell no, but it's still a good option and I'm enjoying mine!

Here's one person who had a change of heart after using one for an extended period of time.....

[youtube]u8DHYoo68VM[/youtube]
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
As I said before in this very thread, I'm off that bandwagon and I totally get what your saying. People love to hate this phone because it doesn't match specs and there is no doubt, it doesn't. On the other hand in the day to day Goog gives you features that you actually use and the ownership experience is very good. I've replaced a lot of Pixels with even more other phones just to find myself right back where I started, on a Pixel. I'm just not doing it anymore. And yeah, I used ultra-wide for a few check it out shots and never used it again. The much maligned soli on the other hand gets used regularly as I take calls while cooking and that sort of thing with it. It's most def a here and there thing rather than constant use but i appreciate it every time I do it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mrindependent:
I just have to comment on this. I love my Pixel 4XL but do feel a little ripped off in some senses. I bought mine from the Google Store and paid in full when I bought it (plus insurance) When I hold my Pixel 3XL next to it, not taking into consideration the notch, the screen looks bigger and is definitely much more vivid /brighter (I've changed all the display settings to make the Pixel 4XL most bright/vivid and tried different combos). Plus with the $1000 price tag I honestly do expect more from Google. I'm not sure exactly what, but I feel they can give you more for this much money, especially when the competitors flagships are the same price and offer more (imo). For instance, the note 10 plus has a bigger screen, much more vivid (than mine at least). It's prettier, and has more features, (and I believe more RAM?). It was a hard decision but I chose my Pixel and sometimes regret it. Especially after having to deal with them with an issue.. they are not at all what I expected in terms of customer service. But don't get me wrong, Samsung has the worst customer service, right below Sprint. They are they hold the superior title for worst customer service EVER. LOL. There's my two cents anyways. On the other hand I am in LOVE with my Slate. They are badass!!! I'm really really hoping to be blown out of fhe water by Pixel 5. C'mon Google, us loyal fans (and Nexus fans) deserve it!! --i just wanted to add to whoever made this post... Not trying to spread negativity or go against your post/opinion. I just wanted to share how I feel. No disrespect ?--

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OMG I forgot to mention

the battery life.. and I say no more. Lol (but LOVE the super fast charging at least)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] baiosss:
The only thing with Pixel 4 XL that disappoints me, compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro, is the screen brightness. Nothing less nothing more.

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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Belfire29:
First post here and I got to say I'm coming from the iPhone 11 Pro Max b and I'm definitely much happier having the P4XL than I ever did with the iPhone. As far as the battery issue for is concern, I'm always around charger so it's no big deal and worst case I see there is a company out there that has a battery case if I really need it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] samep:
My wife has an iPhone X. I had the Essential PH-1 that got updates up to February. Though Essential is on Android 10, it doesn't compare to stock Pixel. I had phone envy when comparing the Essential to iPhone X for sure.

I got the Pixel 4XL and surprised at how iPhone X and Pixel 4 compare. Greatest difference I saw the upgrade Android vs Android was the TMobile data in my area adds band 71 which is a great improvement over the old. But I only got the XL because it had the better battery.

I was initially very impressed with the battery life I had. But as the phone started syncing services, I did drop some screen on time. Still better than the small battery in the Essential. Pixel 4 and XL could have larger batteries but not so much an issue. When traveling I've already gotten accustomed to carrying a backpack carry on that has USB charging; just add the battery and USB cord and good to go. Android on general has gotten so battery demanding that all day charge won't last when traveling and using data and resources for entertainment.

It is surprising to hear an iPhone user to say they prefer P4XL to iPhone 11 Pro. The wife and I are very adapt at charging on the go. But it would be nice not to have to do that.

The Pixel 4 gets knocks for its price and useless gestures. I like the screen knock to wake combined with face unlock. To avoid unlocking issues reverting to pin unlock, I disabled the other screen wakes and gestures. Works more like the iPhone this way. Buying the Pixel 4xl later also helped with the price. T-Mobile had a sale that was less than Google but only had the 64GB storage model. Yes, that's very low. Lower than my Essential but I looked at the storage used on that and thought I could do 64GB again, for now.

Consider this my review. I saw those bad reviews but happy nonetheless. I may keep this phone until 5G matures. My cost effective alternative in the gap of waiting for a good 5G solution.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
I don't care what phone you have, none of them are travel capable without a power supply. Thankfully 10k mAh supplies are cheap and lightweight and will give Mrs Krab (kool-aid device) and I the juice we need to make it through long flight days without having to do outlet searches. It does help that you can get good life from laptops nowadays, mine will go about 6 hours watching movies and that in turn reduces the phones screen on time. Except that Mrs Krab refuses to buy her own calling it a waste of money but takes mine on every flight because all of a sudden it's not such a waste of money. :rolleyes:

To get back on track it helps to turn off AOD unless you're in love with it, that will add a half hour or so of screen to mine all by itself over the course of a full day.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] PAFats:
Dropped my essential ph-1 a few weeks ago and picked up an XL up for $499 from T-Mobile. Phone has been great so far. Some people look at specs and make a decision without ever touching a phone. I've been very happy with it so far, getting between 6.5 -7 hours SOT.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
You can say that because you got the phone for $400 off. A lot of people factor the original $899 price they got it at.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
On one of the websites I read that the Pixel 3 and 3 XL actually sold on average for less than 600 dollars over it's first year. My guess is the 4 is going to see similar numbers and where I'm heading is imagine the Pix 4 reception if it had been priced at 600 out the gate; it would have been much, much, more positive and I've little doubt Google sells more. This is a case where Apple really does do it better; their phones aren't on sale they day they hit the market and they don't backstab early adopters with massive price cuts just two weeks after the first owners get their phones. Apple of course could use the Google model but they don't and that's not without reason: It gives the brand value both for them and for owners who see better resale when they trade.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Hey it's all just a discussion. Let's just agree to disagree on the price. How about an agreement that it's the best Android experience?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] sidhaarthm:
That's pretty solid mate. Mind sharing your device and kernel/power settings etc for achieving these results?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] xFirefly93:
I am actually only doing my typical low level under-the-hood adjustments of the kernel for lowest possible battery drain / power consumption while attempting to maximize performance and system responsivness as far as possible.

Sure.

Join me for getting some free cookies.

EDIT: I am letting my screenshot speak for itself and.. We may take the rest from there in my invitation link above.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
I've listened to SOOO many reviews. The one posted in this thread was fair and true. Most are just garbage and you can tell they had bias going into the review.

I love the 4XL, best phone I've had. I went from 3XL to Note 10 to One Plus 7T to 4XL. I am sticking with the 4XL until next years batch of new phones.

1. I don't compare prices based on spec to spec. I compare it on my experience and quality of the phone. I don't need all the bells and whistles, just what I use and a phone that remains fast and latest updates.

2. I do wish it had an ultra-wide lens, but not a deal breaker

3. I get all day battery (5hrs SoT) for me that is good enough.

4. LOVE how the phones feels and so I keep it naked!!! All these people that ***** and moan about quality/premium feel then slap a cheap plastic case on it! LOL

5. I have NEVER shot 4K 60FPS video and don't plan on it since I don't have 100 TB drives laying around! LOL nor do I want to upload those large files to the cloud. How many NON techy people stream video to a TV or download to a PC to even take advantage of 4k???? Plus I don't see a huge difference especially since you lose stabilization.

Anyway, that is my 2 cents. I'll be loving my Pixel 4XL on Google Fi until the 4th quarter of next year...(might try 8T...dunno...but probably wills till keep 4XL)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
I wrote on another thread not too long ago that was largely complaining about the numbers versus cost that Pixel isn't about numbers: it's about the experience. In the video linked above he compares them to Apple who spends little time talking about stats and instead promotes what the phone can do for you. True stuff that. I personally agree that the phone is overpriced, I don't think the premium market has a long future actually because mid rangers get better and better and cost literally half or even less. I suspect that is part of Googles plan; phones will reach commodification, it's only a matter of time. After that it's all about the software if you want to move handsets and I'm thinking their strategy is to win the war, not today's battle.

Something interesting in that video is that he said they developed soli on the P2 until fairly late in the cycle and that they had unexpected problems when moved to the P4 and had to pull many of the features. First I heard that and it strongly implies the phone will see more functions for motion sense to me. I had been wondering about that one.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] knlgSeeker:
This is a solid phone. I paid $1K for the XL with 128GB of storage, and I'm OK with that. My last phone was a Nexus 6P that I had for almost 4 years. There's great potential for the soli technology, and I love the Astrophotography mode! 6.5 hrs SOT, played some NFS, took lots of pictures, listened to music etc, totally stock settings. No complaints here. ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wyelkins:
Haters gonna hate. Enjoy your phone.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] yekollu:
I had to return the phone..... The battery life was not really up to the mark and another minor inconvenience was having to enter the password and PIN manually on my banking apps otherwise was an awesome phone .... Traded the pixel for Xperia 5 and quite happy about it
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
You log into your bank app that much that it's a deal breaker? Bank apps will get updates and you should really use a password manager. LastPass supports Face Unlock and I use that way more than often than any other app for biometric screening. Enjoy the Xperia 5 though! I feel like that 21:9 ratio is awkwardly tall and narrow for regular vertical phone use.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] yekollu:
Yes almost everyday, i use the app instead of a Debit card and it does not support any of the password saving apps.

Unlike Xperia 1, Xperia 5 is rather surprisingly comfortable in the hand (and great for reading emails, webpages etc). But then again if it wasn't for the battery life and the issue with Banking app, I would have stuck with 4 xl
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Ah okay. That would be pretty inconvenient since it's your main from of payment. I would probably feel the same way if LastPass didn't add Face Unlock support before I got the phone.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] krabman:
I'd change banks. All they do is use your money while charging you for the privilege; they should at least make it convenient. BTW I put my money where my mouth is and did just that not too long ago although for a different reason. Vote with your wallet, it's the one time the corporate boy wonders will hear your voice.

I go the other way on the narrow phone thing. I think it makes the phone easier to hold in your hand but harder to use because it forces everything into a vertically stacked orientation when not everything is well suited to being put in a narrow vertical column. I also greatly prefer the web in desktop mode and this plays out better in landscape where getting thinner really breaks the works.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] arsenal74:
I have one, here is my list...

It feels unremarkable, cheap almost. Some may like the industrial design I find it a little underwhelming

No ultra wide

The screen is dim

Face unlock other than unlocking your phone is only really supported right now by the password managers and little else.

Battery is not as bad as the doom mongers predicted but it is not good.

Still a little buggy, some glitches here and there.

64gb is embarrassing in 2019, I have the 128gb which still needs some managing.

I still cannot schedule the always on display [emoji20]

Overall the software special sauce is good but the hardware not so much, overall for the quality of the hardware I think it is massively overpriced. I also have a mate 20 pro and it is way nicer in the hand and certainly feels more premium.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
How can the battery life not be good when most people are getting the same sort of life as my other flagships? ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] wattsja:
Hopefully you just didn't finish that thought.

Any and ALL apps can and will support the new Face Unlock as soon as they use the new API (BiometricPrompt) as opposed to the old one (Fingerprint). They actually added the new API on Android 9, but didn't REQUIRE it to be used so most developers didn't switch. As I understand it, any updates to apps posted to the app store, staring on 11/1, will be REQUIRED to use the new API. (I might be off on that last part, but am 100% sure of the first part .. that eventually when developers use the right API, Faceunlock will work in all apps)
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bitwiser:
How it feels is one of the best assets for me! LOVE the silky finish instead of the shiny fingerprint magnet and prefer the matte finish instead of shiny chrome or stainless on sides...Matte is in, even in autos.

I agree with no ultra wide :( but oh well.

Specs seem dim but for whatever reason, I have no problems in bright sun to read the screen, unlike my 3XL that was hard to read.

Face unlock will come around just like on iOS. I have no issues putting in my code or pattern

the rest, meh nothing unusual for any phone. Every phone has downsides. You just have to pick the one that has the important upsides for you. For me Pixel is the best android phone to buy. It just works and works well.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jimv1983:
I am aware of that new API but like you said it was added in Android 9.0 and very few, if any, apps actually use it even a year later. There was an article on some tech site recently where several banks were asked if/when they would be adding support for the new biometric API. Most didn't respond but of the few that did the general response was basically "yeah, probably eventually maybe". The most detailed response said hopefully by the end of the year. I hadn't heard about the 11/1 deadline but I'm skeptical of that considering we are already past that and there is still little to no support or even any suggestion that it's coming soon. Hopefully you are right but if we are still in the same situation another year from now I wouldn't be surprised.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] arsenal74:
I quite like the matte back I think it is the edges, they feel like plastic to me even if they are not.

It makes me superficial I know but how a phone looks and feels matters but I do stand by my point on it being over-priced for the hardware they provide.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] obelisk79:
I'll concede the battery life could be a little bit better, however, everything else about the phone feels absolutely premium to me.

Pretty much all of the 'review' gripes have fallen on deaf ears for me.

1. Rounded screen edges piss me off.

2. Notches and punch holes piss me off

3. Shiny smooth glass bodies piss me off

4. After using gesture nav for a couple of weeks I don't want to go back

5. Face unlock is awesome, with a few quirks

6. The camera is top notch

7. Reviewers bashing the video recording are mentally defective

8. 64gb is adequate storage for my usage especially with photo cloud storage.

I came from years of OnePlus. I'm VERY happy with my P4XL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] leebsammy:
In my experience the Pixel 4 XL running Android 10 has been buggier than the Pixel 3 XL. I was also using Android 10 since the first beta, so that could be saying a lot.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] EeZeEpEe:
Have any examples of how it's been buggier?