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[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] who ah way:
From what I understand of this thread, A10 works great for a handful of experts who have been in since the beta (and maybe a few others), while a great number of people have a terrible experience. There's a strong chance that the few people for whom it works installed it in a different way from what you would do (or would want to do, e.g. start from scratch in some cases). Which camp do you think you're more likely to fall in? Play it safe.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
Agree that's my thoughts too around it. Not sure if the current way to stay with twrp and magisk moving to 10 from P has any role in it.

I'll wait for more feedback for the latest version 10.0.2 before committing to it.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
Are you currently on Beta or Stable version of Android 10? Do you have TWRP & Magisk? i.e. Did you migrate (System Update) from Android 9 to Android 10 with TWRP/Magisk installed? Or did you flash TWRP anew under Android 10?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Beta, as written already :D

Magisk 20.1

TWRP 3.3.1-70 from mauronofrio

Migrated from 9 to 10 with local upgrade and afterwards with system ota update
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] who ah way:
[MENTION=613506]strongst[/MENTION]

It's fantastic that A10 works for you.

But in the interest of giving "average users" information on which to base decisions which they might regret, can we agree that your particular upgrade path is significantly different from the one likely to be followed by someone who reads the "OP7 rooting guide" and its Upgrade section?

Just to be realistic, and so that people are not encouraged to follow a path which may not be right for them.

If I'm not seeing this clearly, please let me know — I could be misunderstanding the situation.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Which guide do you mean which is different from mine described above(link of both please)?

The majority of different SOT might be also roque apps that play not well with A10(like on every new Android version before).

That's common problem: app developers against Google :silly:

The first thing to check: if something is bad clean flash/factory reset, test again with that fresh setup. That's what I did since I have windows mobile/android and what we suggest at first.

It sounds hard, but if you have a pc and doing updates for years and then a clean flash(installation) cause it's slow as hell you know what I mean. That was an example.

I don't think it has to do with the way you upgrade/migrate to A10, but more how your previous setup plays with the newly updated system.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] who ah way:
Sorry if what I wrote is unclear, I did not mean to talk about different upgrade guides, but about different upgrade paths (methods).

Anyhow, please don't misunderstand, I'm hugely grateful for all your help!

My intention is just to give a "warning" to not-as-knowledgeable users (like myself) so they don't waste a lot of time with the A10 upgrade like I did. It was a really unpleasant experience.

This is the link to the current guide (your post) and the Update section: it seems that a lot of the people who have success on A10 actually did a fresh install instead.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-7/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-root-t3954559

(Am I mistaken, or did the instructions change a bit over the past month?)

And to confuse things even further, here is the first guide I read on the topic:

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-7/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-android-10-twrp-t3964131
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
I know that you talk about different update paths, but the instructions to update from 9 to 10 are the same in both guides as you can see except that I did not mention the local upgrade(as you did not get an ota offer for OB1 in the past).

But flashing twrp with magisk, then magisk to inactive slot is the same and I did it that way.

The guide from Kollachi explains the same(but is outdated hence closed, since twrp can now handle to patch boot.img), except if you are already on 10 but in the past as the twrp was not able to install magisk as the boot.img was not available(in the past).

Maybe you want to try open beta channel?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
Perhaps, the difference is that [MENTION=613506]strongst[/MENTION] has used Android 10 Beta from the start? How different is A10 Beta from Stable?

In the past on my OnePlus 5 there was a period when Beta worked more fluently & had some goodies that Stable channel lacked! ?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
I can confirm that for op5 where I used beta more than stable:svetius:
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Abaddon:
OB6. not bad.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
Android 9 Pie. Could be better! ?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
There we can see a pretty good difference to other that use dual sim and less Youtube along with more traveling(correct me if I'm wrong) like on sot thread.

It's all up to your personal usage pattern.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlodykaras:
So what's the verdict on 10.0.2? Worth trying out or better wait for further enhancements and updates? ;)
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vaggdou:
No problem so far after the update.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
I'm thinking of upgrading to A10 this weekend! Wish me luck!
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mlodykaras:
Let us know how it goes!
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Didit_Anshari:
Try Beta 6, it fixed many things including cover art album on lockscreen, fingerprint speed, notch (beware it different from pie), and battery. I suggest clean flash without restoring such as whatsapp app ?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
What went wrong with the WhatsApp?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Didit_Anshari:
For me its the delayed notification. A fresh install from playstore solve it
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
I thought most of the pending issues including fingerprint animation delay was resolved on 10.0.2?

Whats up with the notch? I always keep the notch visible so if it's the setting to hide the notch, doesn't matter.

Thanks!
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Didit_Anshari:
Beta 6 is almost as fast as pie regarding fingerprint speed, And yes its the setting to hide the notch is back with beta 6 which is different implementation than pie, it just put your status bar lower leaving empty black space on top
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gorilla p:
I'm using the 7 Pro. Mine is running great.

Never use OOS beta. It is not the same branch. The stable branch is much better handled.

Great performance,very stable, good battery life.

I suggest familiarizing yourself with something like XXX NoLimits ROM to debloat OOS, enable GSM Doze and multiple other customizable features.

Using that along with Kirisakura kernel has resulted in good battery life and low idle drain
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Thanks for the post mate but:

-this is OP7, not the Pro forum

-the thread history clearly shows that there are no general issues on stable or beta branch(see proofs for comparison) on stock rom without mods

-the OP7 pro has other hardware(battery, screen etc) so you can't compare battery drain between those two devices.

Maybe you posted in the wrong discussion thread ;)
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gorilla p:
No, I definitely did not mean to...

The advice remains the same though.

I'm not talking about noticeable issues in the branches, but the amount of issues noticed in beta on previous devices, specifically regarding the kernel.

Obviously the hardware is slightly different, but the recommendation remains the same unless you believe that sticking with the stable branch, debloating junk and enabling doze for Google services is not helpful. It's helped me a lot.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Hmm OK, but you did not own the device, hence simply judging

"Never use OOS beta. It is not the same branch. The stable branch is much better handled."

may be misunderstood by other members:)

I accept your opinion and recommendations about the mods, but you can't simply judge about a device or its software you never used;)
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gorilla p:
I get what you're saying.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Exanneon:
got my OP7 a few days ago and updated to OS10 before seeing this post. luckily for me i dont have these issues. in my case battery life has not gotten worse or better, it's just as good as on pie. settings search works too. a bonus with this update is that it cleared a few gigs of storage, im assuming android 10 takes up less storage than pie
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
Congrats! What's your usual SOT in hours? ?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
Ok, so I finally took the leap of faith upgrading from 9.5.8 to 10.0.2. So far things are okay, and I mean ok. There still seem like performance glitches here and there which I'm hoping will get fixed over the next iteration or two.

I'll share more experience after spending some time with it.

Cheers!
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
I did the OTA, then flashed twrp and Magisk. Seemed to be working, then saw WiFi doesn't connect (or Bluetooth), it shows both SIMs as missing (but 4G works, though the icon overlaps the second SIM icon). The I discovered twrp sees nothing, with /data not mounted or found. E2fsck error 8. If I try using Oxygen Updater to install again will my problems remain?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
You will never know unless you try! But, seriously you won't do any damage with Oxygen Updater. You may loose TWRP & Magisk though...
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
No harm is trying, just make sure to reflash twrp and magisk (on both slots) post the local upgrade via the updater. The updater app technically does nothing but downloads the full rom file for you.

I used file off the updater and installed via local upgrade, flashed twrp via magisk, reinstalled magisk (on both slots) and rebooted. Everything seems to be working good, keeping the general A10 issues aside.

PS. Make sure to delete all magisk modules and restarting before following the above process.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
I' lost twrp and magisk this time which was annoying, but fixable. My main concern is about the partitions which don't show up in twrp (but files are all there in OP's file manager) and which twrp can't repair. I've no idea if the installation process will crash because of this (boot loop etc).

I suppose I really should have done a clean install for Android 10, but I never trust the backup processes. And now I can't use the OnePlus app to copy over my my 5T because Bluetooth won't work (though I have copied the backup to my pc).
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
With my experience on 10.0.2 on OP7 and previously on 6T, I still think A10 isn't ready for prime time yet. And I'm amazed, this is considering A10 was released on OP7/Pro almost 2 months back. Bugs is one thing, but simple dunk in performance and general sluggishness compared to Pie isn't acceptable. Probably it's both Google and Oneplus to blame here.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
Well that failed at the first hurdle! Told Updater I wanted to keep root, specified Magisk, then it booted into TWRP - but TWRP can't see any files!

What do you mean by 'flashed twrp via magisk'? I've flashed magisk via twrp, but not the other way round (I've been searching for an answer, unsuccessfully).
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
Flashing twrp via magisk is only doable if you're already rooted, which is only the first time you're upgrading via 'local upgrade' and before reboot.

Since you have lost your root already, the only way ahead I know of is to extract the boot.img from the full rom zip and patch the img file via magisk to get your magisk root. Once you have the root, you can flash twrp as a magisk module. Make sure to download the latest twrp, which is twrp-3.3.1-74-guacamole-unified-Q-mauronofrio.

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Here's a nice video how to do that - [youtube]FmnlcHKYeTc[/youtube]
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Nope, you can flash twrp.img also, no need to patch boot.img with magisk, since mauronofrio updated the twrp for Q long time ago.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
Also, if you have twrp already you can try to flash the latest magisk 20.1 via USB OTG while staying in recovery?

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Yep but since he doesn't have magisk, I guess it'll need to be flashed directly via twrp if he can access the local storage or USB and then eventually magisk. Not sure but he can flash via fastboot too, although not sure if fastboot works similar to how it does on Pie? Out of curiosity, do you know? Wonder why the tutorials on A10 seem to be pointing towards the longer route of patching boot.img instead of pushing the recovery directly via fastboot :)
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
OK I seem to have caused some confusion. I Do have root, bi have Magisk 20.1 installed. My terminal window shows I flashed the unified Q twrp, but when I boot to Recovery it only reports 3.3.1, and twrp sees no files at all (even though that is how I flashed Magisk). It won't allow to wipe Dalvik, or anything else. Repair won't work. I'd just like to get rid of the failures in 10.0.2. I've been exploring options to avoid factory reset, but if that's what it takes...

EDIT: I've reflashed the unified Q twrp and it records the version correctly. However, it still showed empty folders. I did a reboot and it went back into Recovery, and it how shows all the zips/imgs etc, that I copied over to the phone! Now to try installing the OS again.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
You should search for tutorials not on outdated YouTube videos ;)

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-7/how-to/guide-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-root-t3954559

Fastboot is working as on every other device and rom.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
If you're rooted, you can directly flash the latest twrp via magisk. Same way as you'd add a module.

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Gotcha gotcha, guess no distinction of A10 confused me on what's possible and what's not. So those videos are prior to the twrp days heh.

While at it, do you know if it's possible downgrading to 9.5.8 without losing data from 10.0.2?

Thanks!
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
OK, (some!) progress. I rebooted to System, and the problems I had before (SIM icons, no WIFi/BT etc. seem to have gone away. But when I started Magisk Manager it said that I didn't have Magisk installed. Rebooted to TWRP and it was showing no files detected. Flashed TWRP again - noticed in the flash CLI that it was being flashed to Slot A, where it had been to slot B previously. This was confirmed when I opened up TWRP again.

This raises a question I was going to ask anyway: do I install the OS to the second slot as well as Magisk, or should I leave Slot A empty for the next OTA?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
You need to clean flash. Downgrading android versions was a mess since the beginning.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
The ota will always be installed to the OTHER slot. That's the purpose of seamless updates and with project treble. So it doesn't matter to which slot you flash it.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
Thanks. I thought I had a fully functioning Android 10 on OP7. However, although I flashed Magisk after the OS, Magisk Manager said Magisk is not installed. So I went to Recovery to flash again - but it has gone to stock recovery! This is the second time this happened, and it was flashing twrp after the previous attempt that I got the Slot A rather than Slot B. I seem to be going round in circles.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
You will need to run the following in a single go -

If using local upgrade follow this = Flash rom > flash twrp zip as module > flash magisk primary slot > flash magisk second slot

If using twrp to flash follow this = Flash rom > flash twrp zip > reboot to recovery > flash magisk

And if you don't have twrp right now, you will need to flash recovery.img in fasboot mode, boot to twrp, flash twrp.zip and further execute the steps above.

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Just look at the guide link strongst shared a few posts above. That has all the info you need.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisross:
Very many thanks. I won't do anything more tonight. For now, I have a fully working Android 10, with only root missing which I can live with for now.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ninjaquick:
I just upgraded to 10, and it is faster, so far about the same battery life(if not better), better darkmode support, better overall system performance and actually supports OTG Adapter+Charge+HDMI dongles.

I validated perf with synthetic and real-world benchmarks. I also have it on 90hz always, with DC Dimming and yeah -- I don't see why *not* use it unless you're dead-set on not factory reset first. Not every app and utility will behave correctly being carried over that way.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] franco985:
Can you share your sot ?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
How is your bluetooth module behaving on Android 10?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkubiDoo:
BT is working without any issue. Tested with few devices ;) and smartwatch which is connected 24/7
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Same as on pie, but less disconnects to both smartwatches
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
What smartwatch do you have? Is your bluetooth on 24/7 & always connected/synced with your watch? How big is your battery drain caused by bluetooth/smartwatch?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] strongst:
Pebble Time Steel and amazfit bip. Bluetooth 24/7 activated. I did not measure the drain for Bluetooth seperately...
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
I would agree Bluetooth has been more stable on A10.

What I've been disliking using A10 for a month is unstable GPS and the flicker using gesture mode + nova.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
What about your daily SOT? Do you generally get 10-11 hours of SOT from your phone on A10?

I usually get 10-11 hours of SOT on my OnePlus 5, that's running Android 9 or OxygenOS 9.5.8.GM57BA + TWRP -70 + Magisk 19.3 & no other mods, stock kernel:
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
I've noticed if I'm using the phone constantly then it's 10% per hour of screen on time, so roughly same. But if I'm not using constantly there's a fair bit of battery drain and get somewhere around 4 - 5 hrs screen on time with a standby of 16-20 hours.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
That's a bit strange. Perhaps one of your applications doesn't enter standby in correct way?

Herein are my best stats on Android 9, 16 hours of SOT:
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
Yep but I believe also because of a huge number of notification polling apps I use - Facebook, FB Messenger, FB Pages, Asana, Slack, Whatsapp, Telegram, 7 emails via Aquamail, 3 emails via Gmail are just to name a few.

Attached is the kind of battery life I get and I'm okay with it considering it gives me a full day with decent usage (not too much screen time on a workday).
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] pycxe-01:
Yes, I too have numerous social media applications installed: Facebook, FB Messenger, Gmail with 2 email inboxes, Google Duo, Kik, Skype, Telegram, Tinder, VKontakte, WhatsApp - any of those & other applications can send me notifications at any given time. But, I don't see how that's relevant. ?
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] rezapatel:
You're lucky then to have such fantastic battery life! I would think more the notification polling apps, more the battery consumption, apps running in the background, holding memory etc.
[OnePlus 7 Guides, News, & Discussion] anupritaisno1:
Recommended reading this https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...s-and-battery-calibration-myths-busted.993896
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] eheinzeiii:
I have a carrier unlocked G935PVPSACSF1 and in the dev settings I can tick the unlock bootloader option. How do I go about rooting at least. And possibly getting custom ROMs/recovery? Thanks for anyone who can help.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Youdoofus:
in order to root, you have to have a custom recovery, not the other way around. Flash TWRP in Odin and install magisk in TWRP.

If that didnt make sense, i can further explain.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] eheinzeiii:
Thank you very much for the reply. Are there any dedicated forums for the device I have. I'm having trouble with mine because it came from sprint. I have unlocked the carrier and it gives me the option to unlock the bootloader in the dev options.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Youdoofus:
old thread, but it an aging phone

https://xdaforums.com/sprint-s7-edge/help/stable-root-sm-g935p-t3750992
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Rehvix:
If your model is from Sprint it's not bootloader unlocked. You cannot flash TWRP and magisk without an unlocked bootloader.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] itesla:
I have a Cingular 8125 with original WM5 ROM. Recently got a Bluetooth mouse and adapter for my laptop so I was trying to get 8125 paired up. It seems like very few bluetooth profiles show up. Previous devices (Loox, Ipaq2215) seemed to have a lot more profiles/services.

On my laptop I have this Bluetooth adapter with their recommendedToshiba Bluetooth drivers/stack...

http://www.amazon.com/Cirago-BTA-32...ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1213361477&sr=1-9

It would be nice to have a Bluetooth Utility that used all the available features. Is there anything to expand on the over-simple WM5 Bluetooth control panel? Something that shows more info/profiles/services from the other devices it sees via Bluetooth.

I got ActiveSync working with help from this thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=259946

I cannot get File Transfer to send to PC via Beam in WM5 file explorer.

I'd also like to find some cool software for phone to phone bluetooth, like a chat program or some games (even something simple like battleship :) ).

I found references to several addon programs...

-Sniper - bad links now though, is/was this freeware

-DR.jar - couldn't find the software

-Blueooth from pre-WM5 pocketpc200? OS, seemed buggy based on comments

So... is there anything new and free to help get the most out of this PC-8125 connection?

Thanks!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joemanb:
to xfer files to my PC with bluetooth I had to right click on the bluetooth icon in the tray and choose 'Receive a file'. Took me forever to figure it out. Have you tried this?
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] who ah way:
Sorry for the noob question, but not understanding whether a TWRP backup is attached to a particular device with a particular ID, or if it can be used to restore two identical devices.

So let's say you buy two of the exact same model phones, unlock bootloader and root both the same way.

After setting up phone #1, you do a TWRP backup.

Can that backup be used to set up phone #2?
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] TheKnux:
I've done it many times with the HTC One M8, HTC 10, and Motorola Z2 Force. The first two devices weren't A/B partitioned like the Z2 Force though. Bricked and went through 3 Z2 Force's during the process, but I have restored multiple TWRP backups on different (but same) devices.