yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Thanks Supersonic27543!

So your instructions worked.

I had to click on any WiFi network available. I clicked cancel. I was presented with skip registration button. This took me to the OS just fine. Awesome!

I enabled Developer mode no problem.

See attached pics. These are all the developer mode options. There are SIGNIFICANTLY more options than I remember on our Fire HD 8 6th Gen (2016).

One option I thought interesting is the enable unlock bootloader. I know nothing about this stuff, so I don’t know if that is interesting or not, but I thought I’d share the pics anyway.

Most importantly, SCRCPY works with one slight twist. The command attempts to open the screen with 1920x1200 resolution by default. That fails. I read elsewhere that older Fire HD 10 hardware encoders couldn’t handle that resolution (don’t know what that means). So I kept playing with the scrcpy -m settings until I could get the highest resolution to open.

The best resolution scrcpy will open on this device is -m 1744 which opens the resolution in 1744 x 1088.

I suppose that is still pretty close to full HD, yes?

I hope any of this info helps you all, as I am no help when it comes to the rooting work—that’s above my knowledge base.

Thanks again y’all!

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/mhkazr275pr2yqa/AAB1QCK3tKD0-kmfMrDaxWuOa
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] entombor2:
>unlock bootloader

IS THIS IT FOLKS??? ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
It is not; simply enables the ability but does not do the deed.

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Lowest HD resolution is considerably less...close to 720p (1280x720) although many believe it to be 1080p (1920x1080) which is actually FHD (Full HD). In your case you want to play at the native resolution of your screen or one that matches the same aspect ratio.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Ahh! Maybe because my monitor is set up to a custom aspect ratio, that’s why scrcpy defaulted (when I put option of -m 1751 for example) to some crazy aspect ratio (1744 x 1088) that isn’t true 16:10 or even 16:9 but something in between?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] SweetBearCub:
I really do hope that we can unlock this tablet soon. I picked up one for a decent bit under black friday pricing thanks to their trade-up program. (20% off, plus $10 for my trade-in tablet) When it gets delivered, I can live with side-loading APKs, but I'd really prefer a clean OS build based on LineageOS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
As would many others. Really depends if existing exploits offer a head start and level of interest from the 'developer' community. Had to predict the latter.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dev.null.vw:
First post in XDA

I pickup fire HD 10. My plan is to GET RID of FIRE OS of install a linux(arch, mint, unbuntu or something even lighter that has a browser etc) and use it as a 10 laptop. I will buy folding keyboard cover as well. Once all done I am hoping I can connect to my 4k(2k res also fine for me) monitor to browse, stream and remote desktop to office.

Any suggestion if there are a distro of linux that run(no dual boot on vm, perhaps the word is native) on fire HD 10? Or any info will be helpful including which is the correct forum for these questions.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Good luck with that. You'll need to wait for an exploit that unlocks the bootloader before FireOS can be replaced.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dev.null.vw:
Currently can samsung tab A 10.1 bootloader be cracked and linux installed? Device is: galaxy-tab-a-10-1-2019-32gb-black-wi-fi-sm-t510nzkaxar
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
Can you unlock your Fire tablet bootloader?

1. Enable OEM unlock and USB debugging in developer options

2. Connect your Fire tablet to your PC

3. Verify attached device

adb devices

4. Reboot to fastboot mode

adb reboot bootloader

5. Verify attached devices in fastboot

fastboot devices

6. Now, unlock it

fastboot oem unlock

If your Fire tablet's bootloader is cracked and unlocked. Enjoy.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Can I crack bootloader? Let's see . . .

Thanks for offering that info. A couple of things:

First, how would I know if bootloader is cracked and unlocked? Of course, I assume this is not the same thing as getting root access, correct?

Second, what the heck would I do with it if in fact the bootloader is unlocked?

Third, what risks are inherent in attempting this? Bricking the device? Messing something up some other way?

Thanks in advance!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
Interesting to see the OEM unlocking option, but I think chances are high that it is a dummy switch that doesn't do anything useful. Let's try it anyway if you want! :)

1) Depends on the output of the fastboot oem command. It should be apparent if it worked or not usually.

2) It is straightforward to get root after unlocking the bootloader. It is the locked bootloader that makes the Fire devices hard to mod mostly and unlocking it will put them at a level almost on par with the other developer-friendly manufacturers' devices.

3) It is very unlikely that this will do any harm to the device except a factory reset or possibly a warranty void (if it works) But I can't say that with 100% certainty.

Good luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Bah it is dummy switch! I swore I tapped it yesterday and accepted. But, I must have said cancel when it asked if I really wanted to enable OEM unlocking. The button turns on for a split second and then turns itself off just as quickly.

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Btw, this is all that happens when I adb reboot bootloader:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zx2s6d1vicpww14/2019-11-29 23.45.45.jpg?dl=0

Got stuck and fastboot oem unlock just froze “waiting for any device.”

???
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Of course it does. That's not how the flag works on vendor locked hardware. Unfortunate Amazon left it exposed as confusion is all but certain to ensue.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
Looks like it goes to the Fastboot mode properly but your PC is not detecting it in Fastboot. (probably driver stuff)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Anything I can do to recognize?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
This guide would probably work on this device too. (that is what I followed to get my old Fire to be detected on Fastboot) Good luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] SurroundSound:
I bought this in Argos Ireland. The Argos variant is the one with the lockscreen ads. The Argos ad never stated this so I contacted Amazon and they removed the ads for me. Very good of them to do that for free.

The screen on this tablet is amazing... Literally one of the best I have seen on a tablet that is not amoled. However.... You can clearly see the apps constantly reloading from the multitask menu... Despite how smooth this tablet runs. the ram is killing it. So many Amazon processes running the background eating up the limited ram. Even without all the crap in the background, the 2gb ram is still rubbish on anything in 2019. Still for €109 I am not complaining. If I wanted a serious tablet for work and play I would have purchased something 3 times more expensive anyways.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ILoveLamp2234:
Let me know your progress. I've debloated using the Amazon fire toolbox so I know that my computer is detecting it. I'm currently away from my laptops charger but will get it today and attempt fastboot if my device is still recognized.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] bibikalka:
I went through Amazon reviews for this new fire. Just as I thought, the battery life & performance are cr@p due to the new FireOs based on Pie.

The same story happened with Fire hd8 2018 (karnak), which is based on Nougat. The worst Amazon device i ever bought. Buggy/laggy/poor battery life.

I take an ancient fire hd8 2016 or hd10 2017 any day of the week - great battery life, stable, just works. Amazon software became bad since lollipop. They must have poured most resources into fire tv 4k, this 4k device works very well.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
FWIW - my experience with stock Karnak is somewhat different. Yes, memory is constrained which is further burdened by an active app portfolio that loves to remain resident. However, disabling the most egregious offenders quickly restored performance and battery life. Really has nothing to do with Lollipop/Nougat/Pie base unless one has a predetermined bias against one of those... in which case bring out the rose colored shades and have at it! :)

Provisioned memory is clearly a marketing tactic intended to push sales to higher profit devices. Adding another ½GB to the HD8 and making the HD10 3-4 GB wouldn't alter price points (which are strategically set) but would chew into margins. Amazon is a savey player; wouldn't be where they are today if they catered to the narrow enthusiast community.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ILoveLamp2234:
Sucks that people are experiencing this kind of issue. After removing bloatware with toolbox I noticed a major improvement to battery life. As far as lag goes, the only time I experience it is when trying to pull up google assistant from nova launcher. It’s barely noticeable though. Aside from that I’m pleasantly surprised for the price point.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Hey, are you able to point me to a guide that will allow me to remove bloatware from this new Fire HD 10 2019 (or did I miss it)? Also, any idea how to stop OTA on this new device (so I can connect to internet)?

Thx!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ILoveLamp2234:
Sure can! I used Datastream33 toolbox at this post: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/development/official-amazon-fire-toolbox-v1-0-t3889604

So many useful tools in there! His guide is pretty straightforward. Root features won’t work to block OtA updates at the moment but I’m confident someone in this forum will get root up in no time.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Nadda

I did try this. I did get the devices recognized in Android Studio. Also, the device shows up on command adb devices (which would be necessary for scrcpy to work, anyway).

However, same result as before. I keep hearing the USB disconnect sound (after a couple of connect sounds). I am using the original cable in the box. But, fastboot devices brings nothing. And, fastboot oem unlock just says "< waiting for any device >."

Does this seem unusual to you? Again, I know little to nothing about this, so I have no idea . . .

Thx!

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Hey - I just replied to this in more detail, but no go . . .
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Well! I debloated, and stuff, but now I'm wondering if I should have! I see there is one Fire OS update ready and will install the next time the device is "not being used."

I hope I didn't just scew up my chances of a root exploit if found only in the virgin installed OS!

(Also, the automate ad blocker wouldn't work - I kept going to SD Card, import ad blocker, but it would just go back to choose file source - oh well - I'm on WiFi now and I don't see any ads. I'm not registering the device with Amazon, so . . .)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ILoveLamp2234:
What about using the tool to create a backup just in case. I do apologize for the problems you had. Was able to successfully create a backup for my own FireHd but I just got home and I’m going to fiddle with what was discussed earlier to see if I can get my device discovered. I ran the ad block on my other firehd as well and ran into the same issue but achieves the same results.

________________

Just tried adb fastboot and got stuck in the same areas as everyone else. May just way for supersonic’s response about an app for this part.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] vbnmu:
Can anyone check if the private DNS option is available on the 2019 HD 10 please? If root is not possible, I'd like to use adguard to stop ads.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Adguard works fine on Karnak (Android 7.1 base); should be ok on this device too. Can't see Amazon nutering VPN support in contemporary FireOS builds.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Back up one device restore on another?

The backup is a good idea. In the event the update installs, do you think I could backup another device (still have 6 unopened) and restore that backup to the device where update installed? Any potential problems with that?

Thx!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
I'd be wary as a comprehensive backup/restore is not possible unless rooted.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
That does look a bit unusual... the behaviour with a fresh Windows installation always was (for me)

1) Device not detected in Fastboot. (ADB varies: sometimes detected and sometimes not)

2) <Install the drivers from that guide>

3) Detected in both ADB and Fastboot

Maybe this happens because the old Fire drivers are not compatible with this (maybe because USB-C?) By the way are you using Linux? If so it might be required to configure udev. (I don't remember the exact rules required but let me know if you are on Linux)

Good luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
I’m on Windows 10 Pro
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Supersonic27543:
Then I'm all out of ideas... :( Let's hope that Amazon releases a newer version of the USB drivers.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] fanavity:
I have the same problems with Windows 10. No driver available :( I hope Amazon releases new drivers soon! :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] SurroundSound:
I debloated using the fire tool, is there a way to enable native android split screen on this now ?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
Can modify the framework-res.apk without changing an APK certificates to enable it.

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Can you download an ADB and Fastboot driver (Android SDK platform tools) from official Android website. ADB and Fastboot driver are included in Android Studio.

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Can check the attached devices in fastboot mode:

fastboot devices
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] fanavity:
Now i installed the Android Studio and Downloaded the usb_driver from google, too. But if i go into FASTBOOT mode the Windows Thing detections sound every ~30 seconds. In my device-manager i see a unknown Android device. If i want replace the driver for that device i get the following message:

"Android could not be installed

Windows could not find any drivers for the device.

If you know the manufacturer of the device, you can search their website for drivers to download in the Support section."
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Yup. My exact experience. What gives here?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ILoveLamp2234:
I’ve been told to take what AmaznUser444 says with a grain of salt.. I’ve gotten to where you guys are, and I went in to my device manager for the unknown device and switched it over to the usb driver. It installed and recognized it, however it still did not recognize the device that was in fastboot mode.

As for activating the multi window mode I believe you will need to have root enabled in order to get to the folder he is talking about, I tried looking for it and anything above the emulated storage requires root access. I would imagine amazon not putting these types of files in an easily accessible location.

Again, I’m a novice at all this stuff and learning as I go so please don’t take my word for it. ??*♂️
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Michajin:
I didn't read through all your posts, but i was able to use fastboot on it with a linux setup. But the the bootloader is locked and you cant do anything. OEM unlock doesn't work from fastboot, fastboot boot boot.img downst work, everything seems to be blocked.

As for removing the Ads or changing the launcher i used

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota.override

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.kso

for another launcher (I used trebuchet cm 13.... )

INSTALL LAUNCHER FIRST....

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.firelauncher
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
OTA blocked?

So do you believe OTA was actually blocked using this method?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Michajin:
I do, the updater won't even look when I try to check for updates. But others believe it will come back active. But I don't know what other apps enable them. I did this block for months on for fire 7 and it never came back. Although on the 10 it's only been a week, but so far so good.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
What if my device already downloaded the update? I turned the device off, so the update has not yet installed. However, is there anyway to block a downloaded update from installing? What if I just do a recovery before the update installs? Or, any other ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Michajin:
I would turn it back on. Run the block after boot. Although it might install on boot, usually once you download it, it installs on next boot no matter what you do. Maybe you could try the factory reset, if you can get into recovery, without the update script running. But I wouldn't worry too much, if you are trying to get root most all of the vulnerabilities on the fire decives have been being found in the boot rom, the rest were with mtk-su (temp root, which is now blocked). My opinion...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
Can you patch the Fire HD 10 boot image file boot.img using Magisk Manager app and flash to fastboot.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
So trying to boot in recovery mode (hold power and volume up until Amazon logo) and this is all I get:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Michajin:
No the bootloader is locked. As typical on fire devices you can't do any flashing or unlocking. There is nothing to do at fastboot.

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That is recovery, i cant remember the button combo to open the menu. What are your trying to do? You can factory reset from there, but that is about it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
That’s exactly what I’m trying to do.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
Can you remove the back cover on your newest Fire HD 10 using guitar pick, pry bar, fingernail, popsicles stick or utility knife.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] Michajin:
What is the purpose of this? until someone has a bootrom exploit this wont do anything...

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hold the power button and hit volume up from that screen to access the menu.... i just tested it...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Ahhh! Hold power . . . “Hit” (press and release right away) volume up! Yup! That worked! Thanks!

Fortunately, I did boot up, but the update didn’t install. I did factory wipe from menu. The update didn’t install. I’m still in the August build (having purchased this in November).

All good! Thanks!!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
Can post the images of test points.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dev.null.vw:
I am not even connecting to internet. I wait for bootloader exploits for a while if it does not work I will return the device.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
Can you try to dump boot.img from your Fire tablet: https://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-dump-rom-to-pc-via-adb-t3531866
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] diplomatic:
You need to have root to do that. :mad: There's no magic in that script that avoids that. The software update on the web already has the boot image.

This guy...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
I dumping any ROM files from eMMC using SD card adapter. I get the boot.img to patch with Magisk.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Parallel universe
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] vbnmu:
Thank you. I was thinking of https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s9-plus/how-to/how-to-blocking-ads-additional-software-t3883458

I tested this on the tablet, the option wasn't there nor could I find it when using quick shortcut maker.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] DB126:
Yes, DNS blocking should work but has limitations as it acts on the domain vs page and/or application level. You will need to adjust WiFi settings to implement. See link below for generic guidance on various operating systems including Android. Pay special attention to the section entitled "In other cases:" which is a generic set of instructions.

https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html#instruction

That said, the full blown version of AdGuard is far more effective and completely free if you only wish to block ads, trackers and malware in mobile browsers (also doesn't bombard you with nags). The paid version extends that protection to apps and includes some additional functionality.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
This is a great tip. So what is your experience with the paid for version? Does it stop all those annoying ads in game apps? What about app functionality? Does AdGuard paid version cause any apps to not function properly (or anything in the system for that matter) in your experience?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
[MENTION=8247486]dr_docdoc[/MENTION], can you remove back cover of your newest Fire HD 10 and post the motherboard pictures with removed metal shield and test point like CLK, DAT0, CMD.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] ILoveLamp2234:
[MENTION=8247486]dr_docdoc[/MENTION] please do not do this, I would let a more qualified member try it first. He asked me to do the same thing in a different forum and I ignored it. I’m not about to open my tablet up and remove things for the sake of a photo when I don’t know what I’m doing. As stated earlier in the forum by another user doing this is pointless at this point as their is no bootrom exploit.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] HeaDekBatHblu:
Well, before doing vulnerable boot we need to know, do we have ways to download it to tablet across locked boot.

Thats your tablet, do with it what you need. Don't listen us. Anyway, your warranty void after removing back panel.

But, if anyone want to help for finding ways to unlock this plastic toy - welcome under back cover.

And, sorry for my English, I'm Ukrainian future owner of this tablet. Waiting delivery.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] novatillo:
Recently source code published, available in https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200203720
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] dr_docdoc:
Cool! As one who doesn’t know what this means, what does it mean (or what can you do with it)?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] AmznUser444 Dev:
[MENTION=9817022]Kctucka[/MENTION], [MENTION=7104332]k4y0z[/MENTION], [MENTION=8247486]dr_docdoc[/MENTION], [MENTION=4914529]Michajin[/MENTION], [MENTION=4253671]grantdb[/MENTION], [MENTION=7475514]ILoveLamp2234[/MENTION], [MENTION=494920]Supersonic[/MENTION]2543, Want to try Xposed on your Fire tablet without rooting:

https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/guide-using-virtualxposed-fire-tablet-t4015221
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 General] SweetBearCub:
My tablet just came in tonight. It came with FireOS 7.3.1.0, and I know that there is an update to 7.3.1.1 available.

Following post #148, I have apparently been able to block OTA updates, although I did not try the manual check button. I skipped registration (did not link with my account at purchase, pick password protected wifi network in setup, do not enter a password, go back one page, and a skip setup option will pop up in the lower right), and then I installed the proper files for the google play services/store, disabled amazon's launcher (you must first install another launcher!) and ads via ADB with no issues, and I'd say that in this condition, it's pretty usable.

Some say that anything that Amazon deems important may re-enable itself at any time. Fingers crossed that they do not.

I still await full unlocking!