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[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
On the contrary my battery life improved significantly with the update for me. I don't have ambient on, only motion. Try that for a bit see what happens.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] AJMeisterXD:
Hmm I see, I'll have to play around with it.

Just curious, do you have auto-brightness on or do you have it fixed? Did you change any of your screen refresh rate setting? Do you use Dark mode and do you have a predominantly black wallpaper?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Auto-brightness on and I just went with the default screen refresh rate. The November update shows me at 90Hz pretty consistently but I didn't force it. I use dark mode where I can get it app wise and certainly on the system side. Wallpaper is the dark compass thingy so yes, it's mostly black.

I have heard that ambient on has been draining battery for some. I don't find I need it any longer with motion on. A wave of the hand and it shows me what I need without always being on. You might want to try with it off.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] AJMeisterXD:
Thanks, I think I'll do just that and hopefully I'll see some improvements. Pretty much got the same settings from you except my brightness is set to 50% all the time and my wallpaper is just pure black.

Anyhow, thanks for the input :good:
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
Was worried about battery but this is my first cycle and it works for me. I've been on LTE full time with terrible strength. Forced 90hz on. Motion sense off. Lift to wake and tap to wake on. Dark mode on. GPS always on. Bluetooth always on. Galaxy watch active connected.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] AJMeisterXD:
What was your total sot?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
I forgot to check. Downloaded 12gigs on Spotify soon after so wouldn't be my typical usage. Il see how this week goes as I will on a normal work schedule
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] endigo85:
Getting about 4.5 hours consistently for SoT. Dark theme, 90hz off, motion sense on, ambient off, gps on, bluetooth off, lift to wake/tap to wake on, auto-brightness on.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
Some pretty good stand by drain. WiFi, GPS on, Bluetooth on
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
For my use I can live with this battery. Fourth day with phone. I dont think Instagram usage is correct. I barely used it.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
Happy Thanksgiving guys.

I had given up on this phone, went with the iPhone 11pro and have been loving the 6+ SoT without needing to manual manage it's performance. Anyway, I gave my px4 another chance and I think I finally discovered why some people claim 4hrs+ SoT, they must be keeping their brightness 50 and below.

I can confirm now that I can get to 2.5hrs of SoT by 50% with ensuring the screen brightness isn't passed 50. The auto-brightness would always put me over 50 even indoors with low lighting, so I started lowering it. The phone also doesn't get warm as it normally does if my brightness is above 50%.

Give it a shot for those who have **** battery life. Hope it works for you too.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
You can't base either this or the P4 on battery life. It totally sucks no matter what you do. If you can't give it a charge during the day then forget it. Be it a computer USB 3.0 fast charge or an actual charger you will need to do that at some point during the day. If you can then the phone is great but if you can't do that and obsess over the remaining % left then get the iPhone or something else. I actually have the P4 and it's an amazing device, I really like the features, camera, and face unlock. But I charge it maybe 2 or 3 times / day minimum. Not long but plugged in. But as nice (and I almost got it) the iPhone 11 Pro is it is still an iPhone and well need I say more.? So forget turning off BT or ambient or any of the features. Just get an extra cable / plug and keep it available. Give it a bump and enjoy the device.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
I don't disagree with what you're saying, what I am saying is that there are people claiming 5hrs SoT which I was never able to achieve even with low usage and I discovered something that may be of help to others.

There's a reason why I still went back to give the PX4 a chance even after having bought the 11pro. ;)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Thing is I never paid much attention to sot. I was more concerned with what I had left at 3pm. I use a lot of apps that never have screen on. So the whole thing is moot to me. But good on you for reporting.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
Here's my proof. Was never able to achieve more than 3ish hrs SoT before monitoring brightness.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] netinetinet:
battery life

pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Noexcusses:
Wtf, with this phone???

Are you really happy having brightness bellow 50% to get some shot on 2019?? Cause im not...

And im Very angry right now..

3:45 mins only WiFi and 2 Hours without Sim...

What will happened on data and blue tooth...?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] mrnovanova:
I get excellent battery life with this phone, as long as I don't actually use it. Then it's a different story.???
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
This is what I get (always on display is off. Almost everything else on).

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[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
4h is pretty good for 1day 3h endurance. I just got mine today. and if u guys want extra performance delete digital well being and you'll be amazed! for everybody with battery problems turn off Bluetooth and wifi scanning and turn off adaptive battery.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
Yes also with 90Hz forced.

However I don't know how much difference you get between: 90Hz Vs Smooth Display Vs 60Hz

Anybody tested these 3 scenarios thoroughly?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dudaka:
For me, option to disable digital well-being is grayed out. Any ideas how to disable the app?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] axello:
Sorry, just want to confirm, you said to "turn off adaptive battery"? I thought people were advising to turn it on... Maybe I'm mistaken with another feature (like optimize stuff?).

Mine is ordered and I'm hoping to get it early next week...

Cheers,

Axello
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dudaka:
Hi Axello, I didn't mention about it, it was Jalado, however I'm interested about this approach as well. From what I understood on different forums, adaptive battery needs like a week or two to settle and work as expected.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] axello:
My bad Dudaka
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
you have to delete it through ADB. I did it with my p3 and the touchscreen became more responsive and total system performance was better. https://www.xda-developers.com/disable-system-app-bloatware-android/

adb shell"

"adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.wellbeing"

I'm probably gonna uninstall pixel ambient services today too see what happens cause I don't use the "now playing" feature...
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
this is from my p3. first 2 pics are from pie and the other 2 is android 10. with adaptive battery on I always had idle drain issues losing maybe 1-2% an hour. now I lose that in 8 hours
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
this is from my p3. first 2 pics are from pie and the other 2 is android 10. with adaptive battery off I always had idle drain issues losing maybe 1-2% an hour. now I lose that in 8 hours
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
not yet, I forced 90hz n it seems to be on par with my pixel 3. bunch of stuff is disabled though. I don't really like motion sense on detecting my face and unlocking my phone automatically when I don't want it too. I'll probably play with it in a bit.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
the system seems to have stabilized now. this is what I've gotten mixed with wifi and LTE. this phone definitely has better battery life then the 3. on paper it seems worse, but if you look at the soc the 855 is 7nm vs 10nm it's a pretty decent jump which shows the efficiency of the new chip. everybody's results will differ cause of network signal and how they use their phone. these are my settings

wifi/Bluetooth scanning off (big idle drain)

Bluetooth off

aod off

adaptive battery off (never seemed to work for me, maybe cause I don't limit apps)

NFC off

printer services off

adaptive display off

smooth display off (I use .5 for animations so I don't really see a difference between 60hz vs forced 90hz, touchscreen responsiveness is the same after you delete or turn off usage access for digital wellbeing)

all vibration off

motion sense off

location on

skip lockscreen off

deleted digital wellbeing through adb (best mod for the pixel line!)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
this is what I'm getting with forced 90hz. it doesn't seem to take that big of a hit. I'm gonna keep on and if I need extra juice I'll turn it off
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
Had to factory reset cuz my face unlock just randomly stopped working.

Off charger at 5am

I decided to unlock and try with all features set to:

GPS on, Bluetooth always on, motion sense on, wake when reach, tap, lift, AOD on when near, LTE always, restricted 40 apps, adaptive battery on, adaptive brightness on, forced 90hz.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
I tried many times 90Hz forced Vs Smooth Display On and I think there is 0% difference. Sometimes I even think 90Hz forced consumes less than smooth display

I use a lot the phone while in bed (with minimum brightness), so in these scenarios the screen works at 60Hz with the standard option.

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
I didn't think there was much of a difference with 60hz vs 90hz, but I was wrong and I can never go back ?. battery life is amazing on 60hz though, its way better than the 3
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
I never tried to compare 60H Vs 90Hz forced.

Always compared smooth display Vs 90Hz forced.

I'll try using 60Hz without smooth display to see the results!

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
I can totally see the difference from 60hz vs 90hz. I can't go back to 60hz haha. I will take the battery hit to keep 90hz forced on.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dudaka:
Anyone tested the battery drain difference with motion sense on versus motion sense off?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Corduroy-21:
I don't think that it makes a lot of difference, at least in my experience. On the other hand the AOD made a difference.

Although I had it only "when near" and not "always on" it still remained on a lot of time. The "near" thing is at a range even when you have it on your desk. Also, with the Lock Screen coming on I got a lot of drain.

What I did was turn on all the things like Double Tap, Lift and the one that turns on when you try to grab it. The last one works very well for me if I just want to see the time or if I have notifications. It's like the old Motos where you would swipe over your phone.

Battery improved a lot after that.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
I also prefer lift to wake over motion sense. So I stopped using motion sense completely and only enable it when I want to use AOD (currently AOD is disabled so I don't need motion sense).

I'd totally trade motion sense for a few more mAh in a future smaller Pixel

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
the thing with pixels is they keep alternating the battery upgrades each year for the regular and XL version, probably to save cost. I think they'll keep motion sense, but next year the regular 5 will probably be either 3000mah or more and the xl will have lower battery capacity. it'll probably go down to around 3600mah.

pixel: regular 2770mah xl 3450mah

pixel 2: 2700mah xl 3520mah

pixel 3: 2915mah xl 3430mah

pixel 4: 2800mah xl 3700mah

pixel 5: 3000mah xl 3500mah
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] DSF:
Any evidence that the device run smoother with wellbeing off / deleted? Or any battery gain?

My pixel is smooth with digital wellbeing turned on.

I know that I've tested digital wellbeing on / off on my previous phone (OnePlus 5) and haven't noticed any difference.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
delete the app through adb. even just stopping usage access you should be able to notice a difference. the touchscreen response and scrolling is improved. edit: I just reinstalled digital wellbeing n it seems they improved the performance and ram management I'm around 2.8gb used. I'll have to see in the next few days if this goes up again. I also still have usage data disabled. with it on the system lags.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] DSF:
That's interesting that I have no issue with lagging :) actually everything is buttery smooth!

Are you using custom style (font / shape)? Some people say that affects the performance of the device.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Mariuszg1983:
I'm thinking of buying a small pixel 4, but I'm afraid for the battery. How long does a regular Pixel 4 battery last for a few weeks? Does using an adaptive battery increase or decrease this time?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
Depends how you use your phone. Mine last from 5am to about 9pm when I got to bed (20% battery left)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] DSF:
In my case i see no difference with adaptive on or off.

If I am constantly using the phone I can get about 6h of SOT.

And about 4h-4:30m over 1 day of usage.

Wifi, location always on.

I've attached some screenshots from multiple days, maybe it helps you a bit to decide
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
yeah idk, maybe I just expect perfection lol. maybe my laggyness is buttery smooth to you. it could also be my glass screen protector, but at times when I'm scrolling slowly with a light touch it skips a beat. I had the problem with my 3 until I deleted digital wellbeing. also my ram went back to 3.6gb usage again (reinstalled digital wellbeing). i started noticing my phone lagging after the January update. as of right now it hasn't been that bad at all. one problem I've been having is, when I look at my messages on the lockscreen, sometimes it just shows blank... probably a glitch. I'm just gonna go roll back to December with a clean install

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DSF is right, it's how you use your phone, your reception and how many features you want to use. here's mine with 60hz. with 90hz forced it's closer to DSFs.

https://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4910947&d=1577339506
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Mariuszg1983:
DSF is right, it's how you use your phone, your reception and how many features you want to use. here's mine with 60hz. with 90hz forced it's closer to DSFs.

https://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4910947&d=1577339506[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much for all the tips given. I need a phone that will endure the hardships of traveling (three months traveling in Asia). It will be constantly exposed to searching for a cellular network signal, and at most in the evening it will have permanent access to the Wifi network. I will mainly use the phone for taking photos, video communications via Whatsapp and Skype, listening to music and podcasts on Spotify. I don't want to take heavier SLR equipment, I like small handy items. That is why I wanted a small top smartphone that would embrace it all. He realizes that at higher intensity during the day he can not do without recharging. I just don't know if I shouldn't give up my comfort and buy a pixel 4 Xl. What would you do in my place? Or maybe buy another smartphone? I mainly care about the quality of the photos, and the ones in the pixel are best for me.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] DSF:
I am sensible about animations and i can sense micro lags :P (part of my job is front end web development and i have to deal with lots of animations/transitions), and (while is not perfect lag free, nor didn't find any device that is, even iPhone) in general it's buttery smooth. For example there are stutters when scrolling in Twitter (90hz too), it may be app related.

Can you post a screenshot with battery usage when the battery is low (eg less than 10%)? Pixel 4's battery level is not showing a linear discharging, it drains faster and faster below 50%. On mine it completely drains in seconds when below 3-4%. Never seen this on another brand new device.

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@Mariuszg1983 no problem!

In this case i am afraid that Pixel 4 will not handle that too good, you may need an external portable battery.

And having weak or no signal is a problem with any device..

I've been traveling with the pixel 4 recently but in London and haven't any issues with dead battery, but then again, the cellular signal was good. And didn't took many photos. I've used Google maps lightly for commuting.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] DSF:
The best SOT I got so far: 6h15m

On wifi

Smooth display on, adaptive brightness on (max 60%), white theme
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] peikojose:
Yeah, mine dies in seconds after 3%
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] DSF:
Recently I've retested and when reaching 3% it dies in 3 minutes. So a progress :P

After multiple charges (about 3-4 full discharge - charge cycles, i let the phone turn off then charge) it's better calibrated.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
I was suffering a battery drain from Google app this week and in the last cycle at around 90-92% with Google app consuming like 4% I disabled the app and ended up having a good battery life

Unfortunately there are lot of contras by disabling Google app, but battery life is probably a pro. (App still drains some battery when disabled because it went from 3% to 5%)

This is with 90Hz forced, 70% light theme and 30% dark theme, AOD off, motion sense on, lift to check phone on.

Android system battery is the next thing I'd like to reduce.

WhatsApp as always a battery hog, 8 hours use in Standby but can't do anything but pray for the developers fixing it someday

This had mostly touch screen usage. (No "light" videos nor reading session that generally give a good SoT). And no battery saver. So I would say it's quite good compared to my daily usage

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Off topic: elemental X kernel was released yesterday. I'm considering rooting my device and underclock my Snapdragon a bit for a more power saving profile. However I need to learn how to enable Google pay with the bootloader open. Also would like to know how safe the phone is if lost with bootloader open. This should improve battery life further. Haven't rooted since the Nexus 6P

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
For the slight gain in battery I would not root. There are other reasons to root but for under clocking it seems not worth the hassle. Give it a 10 min charge during the day and you'll get way more battery life than with a kernel imo.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] mfilipan:
I'm not a heavy user, just occasionally using Twitter, Facebook, Telegram and browsing. Got 4 hours SOT for 2d 5h charge and I find this very good. To be honest, I moved from Pixel 2 XL and I had almost the same battery life there.

AOD: off

Motion sense: off

BT/Wifi scan: off

Location: on

Wifi: on
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dexxa05:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kw3pK2GFSTwmsfs99

Hi guys does anyone know what is that -5 app???
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
Sometimes WiFi tethering / hot spot

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dexxa05:
Thank you ! :)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] peikojose:
Yeah, anyway it is not reliaable when it drops 3-5%.

What is your experience?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] kapslock12345:
Does anyone know how I can fix what seems to be a battery calibration issue on a brand new 4? The attached screenshot is an example of what's happening 3 days in a row now. Phone hits 30s% and then a really fast countdown takes place until it hits 0% and the phone powers down.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] jalado:
do you turn the phone on and charge it? if you do, let it hit 0 and let it turn off, then try turning it on once. if it doesn't turn on, charge the phone to 100 while the phone is off. then do a normal calibration. discharge the phone to 0(don't try turning the phone on this time) and repeat(charge with the phone off)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sruel3216:
Your hardware is bad. I saw this on the 4xl thread. Call Google and they will send you a new phone.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] kapslock12345:
This is what I ended up doing since the phone was only a week old, so Google said TMobile would just switch it out for a replacement. He himself said it's not worth trying to resolve it and have it happen down the road, just do an exchange. So hopefully this second time around I won't see this issue..

Thanks for the responses and assistance to both of you!
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] peikojose:
It happens to my phone but instead of 30% at 3% so really I don't know if no it is worth doing anything
[HTC Excalibur] jyxavier:
Just flashed to the Ricky's latest Opera ROM, and starting to explore the new system, but I am having an odd problem. The home screen keeps popping up while I am in the middle browsing through menus. For example, I was trying to change my connection settings, and in the middle it just put me back at the home screen. This has happened at all menus, so I can't pinpoint the issue. I browse back with no issue, but it is annoying to be half way through something, and get booted back to the home screen, and have to start all over. Anyone have any insight into what my issue would be? Could it be a process, or program?

Edit:

Ok, my issue was a user error. I didn't know what the Time Out setting did under the Home Screen settings, and had set it to 10s. Should have played around more before post.
[HTC Excalibur] jdoggraz:
Oh ok glad you found the error lol. So is everything okay no with your phone? if you have any other problems or concerns please feel free to ask. We are all willing to help out :)
[Xiaomi Mi 9 SE Questions & Answers] ketogeno:
How to get rid of unlocked bootloader bootsplash?
[Redmi K20 / Xiaomi Mi 9T Questions & Answers] robi10101298:
You can install magisk on the global rom without twrp, it's a guide here on xda about how to do this :)
[Redmi K20 / Xiaomi Mi 9T Questions & Answers] batman957:
No that's not the case I mean I already have them both but I want to remove them in order to be safe from bootlooping while updating to miui 11
[Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers] Nuno Oliveira:
nyone experiencing random freezing in COD Mobile in Mi 9 with Mi11/Android 10? In my case, last two weeklys of xiaomi.eu.

I was staying with Android 9/Miui 10 until google maps history gets solved on Googles's side, but tried this latest beta, and game start frozing randomly, while in game and often on battle end while "saving results".

Tried with and without game accelerator, root and unrooted.

Back to 9.8.1 and issue is gone.
[Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers] karolak-33:
I don't have such issues on 9.10.10.
[Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers] Human_Sorrow:
No issue on 9.9.27
[Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers] JoaoVRodrigues:
Same here in global rom
[Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers] xXCoolGuYXx:
I have it on my lg V40 it freezes a lot