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[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] JaKats:
I always had Sony flagship smartphones .... This is my first Xiaomi . Great phone, even the 720p is not even bothering me at all. What annoys me, is the fact that I bought it mainly because of stock android . Knowing that I got worse camera processing due to processor being somewhat old and lacking in power , but it didn't matter that much , still, amazing camera. It's a mid range to low range phone , yes . But getting slow and buggy updates , ON STOCK ANDROID , is just unacceptable. Getting updates after MIUI, LAAAAME . No respect for their customer . Terrible support from Xiaomi, phone broke , 100% manufacturing mistake, in my country there was no support ...... Never buying again. Only if I'm that desperate .
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] czar1212:
Better buy a nokia or motorola
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] avpenkov:
Nokia 7.2 no 10 update for now!

Mi A2 recilved 10 last month

If you need latest android, only pixel can deliver))
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] czar1212:
Yep pixel is best just need some more money or a spare kidney
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] garylawwd:
Outdated chipset? The chipset was released in April last year and the mi a3 was released in August. The chipset was only 4 months old so not really outdated :confused:
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Baron60:
When you mean a few days ago you mean a month ago. But yes I think that support has got this information wrong I will still believe it's coming unless we only get a security patch this month
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] woOtSalami:
Who cares? You got a cheap reliable and practical phone why bother with a delay?
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] JaKats:
yeap , not outdated , my bad , wanted to focus on underpowered , since CC9 got the 710 , which is 10 nm vs 11 nm of the 665, and is the on it was supposed to come with our phones , until xiaomi decided to throw it away....

Reliable ? HA. when the internal (only!!) screen cracks from waist height drop , with the phone landing on it's back, with case and tempered glass on , then no , it's not reliable. OOh and yes , I care . It's the reason i bought it , Android One says on it's back.....
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] woOtSalami:
Ok do you have any other option within the same price range? As long we have no other real competition in this range you can't do anything besides buying something else. I had a Sony before and they suffered from real problems I never had with Xiaomi like overheating, getting sluggish and not waterproof at all. Besides that the headphone jack went overboard too.

I still think for the price you pay its the best you can get :svetius:
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] wilburyh:
I think that people complaining about Xiaomi A3's costumers –us–being disappointed because our phone isn't updating to Android 10 on time are not aware of the real trouble this suppose.

We understand that an update can be delayed due to various problems, but I think we have PAID for this phone with Android One and that means regular and quick updates before any MIUI phone, for example. And in relation to this, the cheap price of this phone is not an excuse for Xiaomi to disregard our phone, neither a valid argument for all of you to support the company on its delaying.

Nevertheless, now this is more than a matter of a simple delaying of the updates. Xiaomi has been playing with us and that's not okay. When they were asked about the update, they always said a date and when that date arrived, the update never came. For me, that's not serious for a big company like Xiaomi. If there are problems involving the Android Q update it's okay, take your time, but what is the point of lying to us?

It's clear that the update is around the corner. Maybe it will come early next month but for me, I feel disappointed and cheated as a Xiaomi's costumer, and the update won't fix that.

That's my point of view.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Valcane:
This is my first Xiaomi. I always buy stock android bcoz the updates are early and promising but Xiaomi don't following this things. I am using MI A3 and Motorola One Action. I know that MI A3 is good in spec but lack in upgrade which make it worst stock android. This will be my first and last phone from Xiaomi. U guys are too lazy in your upgrade. If u can't give regular update plz don't make stock android phones.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] JaKats:
I couldn't agree more ...
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
its hightime mobile companies started taking us seriously

hello everyone

the mi community is toxic and has moderators who only want you to praise Xiaomi for anything they do

Try posting something that is even a bit real or practical about an issue and the moderators would humiliate you instead of guiding you or whenever the company's wrong like (removing beta ROMs for public)

they remove posts on a daily basis about MI a3 android 10 update

now they only care about advertising on the phone and selling more devices

but that's almost every company

Xiaomi

this time they have outdone themselves with the greediness

they have not got enough developers for the mi a3 in India or elsewhere in the world

as they can use their devs to make projects for their devices that run on miui

the ambiguity in the way they respond to tweets is not helping them

most companies have an update road map

moto Lenovo has a matrix sheet on their website

realmi releases updates as promised on their social media handles

Nokia also does the same the released a tweet then android 10 was launched and had promised the timelines a lot long ago

but Xiaomi can't do the same

THE ONLY WAY I SEE THAT WE CAN GET AN UPDATE IS THE 4chan way

AN all-out assault on everywhere we can post reviews like amazon

Flipkart google gsm arena

and mark the product one star everyone of the their products not tjus the mi a 3

make memes every day and upload them on Twitter or Instagram

i would be making memes everyday about manu kumar jain ,mi a3 , until they get better at the updates

cause they would still dealy the android 11 update whenever it arrives be it next year

security patches and what not

b ut we should teach them a lesson

we are their customer's and they should respect that not take us for a spin

We helped them GREW up WE SUPPORTED THEM

when they were a startup and now they are a billion-dollar company it was not without us who bought their products and spread a good word of mouth

you can do your bit

step 1 review 1 star or zero everywhere

step 2 make or repost memes tweets and use an appropriate hashtag and tag them their CEOs, developers and whoever works from them there is no hiding

someone on twitter actually filled a consumer forum complaint

they have had enough time to work on one device they are literally no excuses left

coronavirus outbreak happened in January and the development must have started about October is h

please everyone who has bought this device it would take you a minute to probably write a review but if each one of us does a little bit we can get faster better updates

in the future

I have a twitter handle and an Instagram handle going to post some stuff there then reply back
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] papsr6:
I do something more easy.

I will never buy again xiaomi.

After that suport xiaomi is dead for me.

I hate companies to miss customers when are was high.

Must make them low or close to learn all others.

this behavior is totally unacceptable for a company

I prefer to give some money to someone who doesn't fool me.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
Mi community is toxic exactly because of people like you. For each one valid question there are tens of topics, which are either "where is my monthly update????" or "where is my Android 10 udpate?????". Xiaomi doesn't provide road maps for Android one series, never did and probably never will. They do not communicate exact release dates. If they tweet some approximate date, it's common that the deadline is not met (even for MIUI devices). They do not reveal why. They do not supply changelogs with updates. They do not respond to user complaints directly (valid or not). This situation/behavior is in place for years and with ever increasing number of sold phones, they don't need to change much in their approach. They usually provide great HW with good(ish) SW for a great price.

Do I like their "silent treatment"? Hell no. Clean, honest and up-to-date communication is often the key to success and I'm sure that it would be welcome even by the hardest Xiaomi fans (probably, I'm not one of them). Once Xiaomi increases prices (or competition lowers them), they will need to improve their behavior to stand out of the crowd. So far (admittedly, and unfortunately) they have no real competition in this price range.

If you don't like their game, don't play it. Pay double/triple the cost for an illusion of a better customer service with another company. No one forces you to stay with Xiaomi.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
either you are forgetting Nokia exists or that you don't know about consumer rights and that xiaomi as a whole is not the biggest company in India bbk electronics is
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
Nokia with lower specs HW, higher prices and "unlockable" bootloader? Yeah, I often forget about them. ;) Not sure what does it have in common consumer rights. I believe that Europe has one of the best end users' protection (2 year warranty, false advertisement etc.), yet no one sued Xiaomi.. Well, I never heard about "bbk electronics", what's your point?

If you believe so strongly that you are in right, return the phone to the seller and buy Nokia instead.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
oppo + VIVO + REALME + ONEPLUS = BBK electronics

secondly, look at the android authority page on android 10 updates it will give you some real insight if you od an oopsie how to fix it as some brands did now if you want better service from this company what do u want to do you can either tweet once a day or make a meme and share it on where ever Xiaomi is
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
Ah ok, none of those phones is sold in my country, so they are out of my interest (I like to buy locally due to 2 years warranty). Also to my understanding they're much more expensive and don't have clean Android.

Please use proper grammar and punctuation, it's very hard to read and understand your text. I'm not even sure where one sentence ends and another one begins. Maybe native speakers understand you better, but I struggle. :)
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] labeed:
don't forget that nokia has major bugs in their android 10 builds and nokias 6.2 and 7.2 that were released shortly after mi a3 still don't have android 10. bootloader isnt as easily unlockable there and also custom rom scene isnt as big. mi a3 is clearly a better deal for money.

i do understand the lack of official dates or any clarifications though. i would be fine with feb security patch only if they want to push the release date further into march
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] mewcatchew:
Xiaomi doesn't care about Mi A3 customers. Not on their list of priorities. If enough people bash them for it on social media, something will get done; the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gemblan:
Because bigger number of people bought note 8,8pro or Mi9 lite reather than Mi A3 due the 720p screen even if in real life mi A3 is better than note 8 so they are focusing first on phones that sells better....
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] frandmnc:
That's really bad policy. Every user deserves the same attention no matter what device they buy, and that is in the best interest of Xiaomi because now if I, as user, know that they give support based on "device popularity" and not the user's interest, I won't be buying Xiaomi anymore. In effect, they lost.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
why don't you also put zero or one-star on all their products on amazon.

as I have done i also made a meme my ig handle is at the rate idiocyinverted

and if you want to use twitter use mia3update i would create more hashtags as well
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
That works in ideal world, where a company has unlimited resources and can assign them on each product in full force. In real world, every company has limited resources, so they have to prioritize what will be done and when. And how to decide which product gets the most attention? The basic criteria is money..what brings the most revenue gets priority over less popular products. In my country I was surprised when one mobile operator started selling A3 phone. When I spoke with a sales representative, he told me that in 2 months, not a single phone has been sold in that particular shop (with most plans it costs 1 euro). They completely removed it from the offer recently.

We can argue all we want, but that's how big companies work and think. Some naive twitter meme "shi*storm" won't change a thing, but you can surely try if it makes you feel better. Just I'd advise to organize it outside of XDA as this is place for helping and finding solutions, not for useless "hate speech".

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You're doing exactly the same thing you blame them for - false advertising. Except that Amazon will clearly see that you are a liar and most probably just remove your false reviews/ratings. If this really makes you happy..
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
ever heard about brads wife or about the CNN 4 chan wars ever heard about how 4chan forced so many companies to change their tactics

their marketing campaigns if you want something in you to have to fight for it or you can bow down to your company overlords and just say that you lost and that they can dance us around the way they want don't u want to feel satisfied with your purchase don't you if so you can continue

just like the right to repair campaign is being shunned by lobbyists and big companies taking away basic rights from you

you may feel like you alone can't do anything but if all mi a3 users united and started hitting them where it hurts getting their reputations down they would do the needful fast

or you just continue with the way they run the show
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] frandmnc:
Strongly disagree. That is nothing more than a justification and an excuse. If a company does not have the resources to support all the products it markets, then it should have fewer products. That is a basic criterion for not losing customers. It is not an "ideal world", there are examples of companies that give good support and therefore customers choose them.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
And I'm sure that those companies have so many interesting and quite good products for great prices, right (not only phones)? [emoji846] Just out of curiosity, name one phone in this price range with similar specs and full posibility of customizations/root. I've been looking for an alternative to Xiaomi Android One for the last 2 years to no avail.

Once Xiaomi notices decline in sales, they'll change. Until then..why should they bother? Because you or I don't like it?

Btw.so far we received every single monthly update, including some bug fixes, so you can't say that there is no support. They stick to Android One rules.

If anything, you should bang on Google's door so they change the Android One policy (e.g. new version of Android must be released within 4 months after stable version available).
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] frandmnc:
A clarification: I do not think there is another manufacturer that offers hardware for these prices AND better support. The annoying thing about this whole situation is the uncertainty (when the update was originally going to be released in October-November, then passed to December, then in mid-February, now they say to March). You can only wait and be patient. The proposal to make memes and annoy social networks seems ridiculous and the truth is that I think everyone has better things to do.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Onurnymr10:
Xiaomi does not delay. SD665 is a new processor and base is different.

Xiaomi thought he could cope with the SD665 and I think the Android Q bugs is full.

And so far no SD665-based device has received Android 10.

So do not extend any further topics.

Wait for Xiaomi
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] papsr6:
Sd 865 is not new soc?

This is for childrens.

Xiaomi is big company with billions and with many developers.

The reasons is 2.

1 xaomi sells many many deferent smartphones and must support all them.

2 xiaomi looks like hate androidone because customers prefer androidone and not miui.

For me xiaomi had lost the ball.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] galen2:
"Xiaomi does not delay"... lol... they sold the phone saying... "will be the first android one to get android 10" and they say since december... "will be released on the next weeks"... and 6 months waiting... i can wait a bit more, for a phone that i bought only because it have android one and fast updates was expected... so no problem, i will wait but i will not buy other xiaomi phone, next phone will be a pixel, that already have android 11 when i dont have android 10.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] debido666:
This thread is hilarious.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
google should look into it MI not providing a specific reason is more troublesome

google should really clarify what android one is and also penalise companies that dont provide updates on time project reble was supposed to make android updates faster

and if we let Xiaomi loose they will not even bother next time and that would be worse we might not even get a bug free update now

as well i moto g series runs on android 10 out of the box on sd665 and there are custom ROMs with android 10

drivers won't be an issue as sd660 & 665 are architecturally similar

this is someone heard something from some one and the same same goes on
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] wilburyh:
I just want to remember that Xiaomi claimed that Mi A3 would be one of the first devices to get Android 10. Actually, it seems it will be the latest.

That's deceptive advertising. It don't matter the price of the phone as I said, when you buy a thing you have the right to criticize the company as much as you want because you spent your money on it.

Xiaomi has made a mistake. That's it. It has to be admitted. There are no valid arguments to defend them. But neither to punish the company with fake reports on Amazon like some people here want to. Don't get mad, just wait.

What's more, Android One means latest security patches before the rest of the devices, but where's this month security update? I just think that Xiaomi is just going wrong again and again...
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] bloodzhed:
Exactly as i think. They are busy creating new phones every week or so, but can't handle supporting them.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Baron60:
They don't release a phone every week. Now you're being over dramatic
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] papsr6:
Every week maybe not.

Every month....

Dont forget the brands....mi,redmi,cc,poco.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] RaghavTeck:
Snapdragon had not released Android 10 codes for Snapdragon 665 until December 2019. so xiaomi had three months only

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Yes ?
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Tyrese117:
And #MIA3 is going to be one of the last device in the world to get Android Q... Now Android 10
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Baron60:
Yep no phone with 665 snapdragon had the upgrade yet... It will be soon when they will release as kernel released last month
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] yossarian82it:
Well, they released more than 35 phones in 2019. So it's more than one every two weeks. Almost there.

Anyway, I'm using a Pixel Experience custom rom based on Android 10 so I'm not hurrying for the update. Nevertheless, although I use Xiaomi since 3 years, I have to say that they are a complete disaster when it's up to communication. They could use this problem in order to be more transparent towards the user base: they should announce a timeline of their software releases (they, obviuously, have it internally) and tell to us if there are issues that are delaying the update. Instead they tend to postpone communication, to not respond to people with informations (if you notice, they never answered to questions regarding the update with a clear reply). I mean, guys at Xiaomi, chill out: we don't want to burn down your offices. What we ask is to have a realistic timeline of the Android updates.

Hope this case will be useful for Xiaomi customer service and PR (but I don't think they have learned anything from this buzz...).
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] RaghavTeck:
That's Oreo. Not Android 10
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] perfect_:
Which phone you have.

Mi A3 or Mi A2 Lite ?
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Baron60:
Well I'm in the A3 thread so what you think ??
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] perfect_:
You tryed to talk about Mi A2 Lite on its forum like owner.
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] Baron60:
I had the a2 not the lite now I have the A3
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] sameersharmap1:
mi a3 is a low sale flop so blame qualcomm

the reason they are now claiming is fingerprint issues

caused by vendors not supplying drivers problem with qualcom bootloader files some sbl1_hw.h

qcom code base sbl1.h i tried google but with no response i guess they just made up an exquese and now they cant own up to it can someone shed some light on these and that and make memeas
[Xiaomi Mi A3 Guides, News, & Discussion] _mysiak_:
You could have quoted whole post.

"A message from one of the Xiaomi's developer" Hi,I've seen a lot of discussions regarding Android 10 update for Mi A3 (or it's lack thereof). I love this community, so I decided to help you a little.

*First of all - I work at Xiaomi. It's hard to believe that, I know, so I decided to attach a little proof. sbl1_hw.h is piece of one of the most proprietary things in entire Qualcomm codebase - sbl1. I know that this isn't particulary interesting piece of code there is, but I can't really get anything more (I'm at risk by just sharing this).

**Second of all - regarding the update. Android 10 release for laurel_sprout has been postponed at least 2 times now. First we planned to release it at start of January. We had problems with 3rd party code (Wingtech, Goodix) so we asked them to fix everything.Mid January we got revised code from both companies. We were almost ready for release so in anticipation of that we pushed A10 kernel to MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource. It turned out our build wouldn't pass CTS for some reasons and, additionally "user test" users reported poor user experience with problems such as camera crashing/instability, QC not working or device not booting at all. We had to postpone the update once more.Somewhere between then and now coronavirus happened, so development stalled. Now we're back and we're trying to make A10 as stable as possible.As for ETAs - A10 will happen either this month, or in early March.That's all I can say about this situation. I love y'all!~Friend""

Not sure why do you expect to find source code of closed source drivers/binaries, unless they've been stolen and published. I don't know if the post is genuine or not, but that you can't find the file on Google means nothing.

Source: https://in.c.mi.com/thread-2142667-1-0.html