yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
[MENTION=4864772]thesebastian[/MENTION] Wow great info thanks. My overnight drain is basically what tells me what's going on when nothing is going on. lol There are times I get 0.5% / hr and not more than 0.7%. That's where BBS comes in handy. I can look at summary, alarms and partial wakelocks. It will show deep sleep % and awake with screen off. I can then find what app is doing stuff in the background when it shouldn't be. I can't always stop it but at least I know and can delete the app if I don't want it that badly. My news apps did that and I just deleted them and go to my browser now. That saved a ton. Mi Fit I'd like to strangle since that's always at the top of the list.

I think I'll go with reach to check phone. Is that different than show display when nearby? There's no way I'm going to get more than a few hours on battery today once I start playing around. ;) One last thing. I was just reading about is the screen refresh rate. You went with 90Hz always I see. Did the default bother you where it drops down at a certain brightness? I do believe there is a fix for that coming, hopefully in the November update on the 4th.

Thanks for taking the time to post this. Time to start backing up my device. Here's a link to BBS just in case you want to play around. I get the updated releases and am currently on 2.5-330. If you're unrooted there are some adb commands you need to run in order for it to work. I think they are on post #3.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] hotpocketdeath:
I think you missed my point. My P1 is 3 years old and the battery simply wasn't what it used to be. It was very noticeable when I was playing one of my games. I barely had 2 hours of screen time before I needed to start looking for a charger.

Even if the battery life of the P4 doesn't match other phones, it's still a lot better than what I had on my P1.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sic0048:
I think you misunderstand how charging cycles work.

First, the shorter the time you discharge and then subsequently charge a phone's battery, the exponentially longer the battery will last. So if a battery will last 400 charges from 0 to 100%, it might last 7000 charges from 90 to 100%. It's actually better to charge more frequently, but for a smaller amount. (Please note these numbers are just a made up example. I have no idea how long the Pixel 4 battery should last). The idea that you have a set number of charging cycles and you use one every time you plug the phone in - whether it charges 1% or 100% - is simply not how it actually works in real life.

Second, many phones now support battery idle mode which cuts the battery out of the picture when it is fully charged and the phone is plugged into power. In other words, if you are driving around all day with your phone plugged in and fully charged, the phone isn't discharging or charging the battery at all. It is using only power from the plug to power the phone and the battery is bypassed completely. This means there isn't any downside to leaving your phone plugged in at 100% like older phones may experience. I know for a fact that the Pixel 3a and 3a XL phones support battery idle mode and I would be shocked if the Pixel 4/4 XL doesn't (although admittedly I don't know for sure).
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
The one for AOD I think it's basically to save AOD energy when you are away from the phone.

The one to brighten AOD is more to show you stuff without touching the phone and if you want, also, unlock it without touching it.

-----

I haven't checked 90Hz with low brightness I went straight to developers options because I wanted to see the impact of 90Hz from day one.

----

I'll try BBS. I bought this app like 2 years ago and also used it many times with old nexus devices. But recently I was using in my Pixel 2 AccuBattery but this doesn't show a lot of more apps than system battery does.

What I really want to do is count all the % in the battery menu and have a sum of 90% or more. Generally I can only see what consumed maybe 60% of the battery life.

---------- Post added at 08:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:27 PM ----------

This is true? I've always thought it was "bad" for the battery to charge it constantly from 90% to 100%

I thought that ideally is good to charge from 30% to 80%
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sic0048:
Well "best practice" is highly debatable and my post was an oversimplification of the battery debate. I agree that not constantly charging you phone to 100% will likely increase the life of your battery.

Personally I use a battery charging control app/module to limit the upper range of my battery charging to 80% for this reason. The module is also set to not charge the phone until it drops to 70%. So I'm shooting for charging my phone from 70-80% whenever possible.

Now obviously I'm not tied to my charger, so there are many times my battery goes below 70%. But I'll always throw it on a charger if I have access to one and the battery is below 70%.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
Hey, point taken.

My morning routine is usually unplug at 6am, listen to music as I get ready and when I exit the door at 7am I'm at 92% with my GP3. With GP4 I'm down to 85%.

I guess since you're coming from an even ****tier experience than of course this is a better one haha ;)

I have a p30 pro, and I was so spoiled with that battery life.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Alcolawl:
Early report from me, I've had the phone for a little over a day now, so I'll comment again in a week or so when things get settled in and I have the phone the way I want it.

Went from 100% to 20% in a span of nearly 12 Hours, with about 2 hours of radio streaming, an hour of video conferencing, normal texting and snapchat usage, and about an hour of phone calls. This is with adaptive brightness, ambient display, gestures, all that good stuff enabled. No SoT numbers because a lot of what I did today isn't what I typically do in a workday.

So far, I can't say I'm disappointed with the battery life. I charge my phone every night for the most part and I'm very confident that even if I forget to, it'll be alive in the morning with plenty to spare.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
First day out.. p4 not p4XL

Very happy with battery life. In fact it's really surprised me.

It's done exceptionally well in fact.

Photographed battery usage.

However what it doesn't show is for nearly 9hrs the phones been searching for signal masts which always takes a toll on the battery as I drive for a living..

My screen brightness is set at 50% and I've not forced 90htz display modeView attachment 4855129View attachment 4855131
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
I forgot to add...

9hrs of Bluetooth connection

Dark mode enabled

And motion sense triggering about 300 times from it detecting my hand when changing gear and steering..

Motion sense needs a toggle for a car mode imho. Once the phone registers say 7mph with GPS, it turns motion sense off...
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
Second night was worse (12% in 7 hours), but mainly because this time with AOD disabled and Motion Sense completely disabled. I don't know if Motion Sense consumes battery (like more than 1% in a night, this needs to be confirmed). I was expecting to have 4% or less this night because of AOD disabled.

Spotify this cycle was used 2:30 while on standby, I haven't even used the app I think. So I changed it to "Offline Mode". I hate when these things happen on Android. WhatsApp as usual top in the list for background usage, but that app can't be helped because I need it.

Result:

28% 00:30

16% 07:30

(Note: Another change I did was enable Google Maps location sharing because it was off for this device the first cycle. I'm not sure this is a battery hog, map barely appears in battery usage stats. But could be related).

SoT was worse, but still over 4 hours. But understandable considering the standby battery life I had this night (and probably day).

Now I Installed BetterBatteryStats (v2.5-337)+ the 3 ADB commands, let's see if I can track something with this app.

- One more thing I've never understood is that, sometimes you unplug the charger [30-120] min after full charge, and take a lot of times to goes down from 100% to 99% or 100% to 90%. This last cycle, I haven't waited, after reaching 100%, 5 min later disconnected the charger and quickly went from 100% to 99%. So I don't know if this 2nd cycle also did a full battery. But this is a thing I had in all my previous smartphones.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] netinetinet:
BBS is great application, I use BBS on all my phone
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
[MENTION=4864772]thesebastian[/MENTION] I left everything pretty much stock other than reach to turn on and jeez I forgot already. Lol. Aod off but phone face up so as not to disable anything. I'm using the same version of BBS too now.

Overnight drain 0.5 / hr. 8 hours lost 4%. That's about what I expected and what I got on the 3a face down aod on. Loving the feel of this phone too. I guess I should get a clear case but that will wait a day or two.

Got a system update this morning. I'll look after coffee what that was for.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
That's really good I got 12% overnight. But Spotify was also guilty.

Do you have WhatsApp by any chance?

This is my BBS right now (I enabled back Soli and disabled AOD, also disabled lift to check and started using soli reach to check)

View attachment 4855513
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] porky101:
I am receiving what seems to be like pretty bad drain. I went to bed at 100% woke up at 90% and now with being up for ~2hours at 82%. I have motion sense off, Smooth display off (didn't force 90Hz either), always on display off, dark mode on. On regular Pixel 4.

Phone idle (9hr 33min) - 4%

Screen (31 min) - 3%

Android System - 2%

Wifi - 1%

Andorid OS - 1%

Nova Launcher (7min) - 1%

Gmail (6min) - 1%
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Just saw this post. The attachment is not viewable for me. I have WhatsApp and Spotify but they only go crazy once in a while. I'm not sure why that happens either. I look at deep sleep, alarms and partial wakelocks and that will usually tell me which app went nuts. I'll either force stop it or reboot. The only other times I get under 0.7% / hr is when I had AOD on and sitting face up all night. If I flipped it then it was a non issue. Try rebooting before you go to bed with AOD off and see what you get. If you don't have an app that wants to phone home or awaken the device then you should get significantly better overnight drain.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] porky101:
To update from my last post (since it is about the end of the day):

I am at 54% with 1hr 38min screen usage since full charge.

Screen (1hr 39min) - 9%

Phone idle (20hr 3min) - 6%

Android System - 6%

Wifi - 4%

Android OS - 2%

Google Music (41min) - 1%

Mobile network standby - 1%

Gmail (29min) - 1%

Google Play Services (15hr 53min) - 1%

I am a pretty light phone user, so I guess this seems like decent battery for me.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Mohamedkam000:
That sounds really terrible for a Q4 2019 phone, why did you bought it anyway?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
Looks pretty good to me too. I usually don't pay much attention to SOT but a lot of people do. That will give you around 4 hours and probably around 30 hours of uptime if you were awake for 15 hours. ;) It's not the greatest battery in the world we knew that going in. But the device makes up for it. It's slick, fast, great camera and .. well you name it. The bottom line is.. are you happy with your purchase and not what anyone else thinks. Especially a Sammy user. lol
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] porky101:
Yea, I love the build quality of it. I am an extremely light user all I really care about is stock android, fast updates, and small size. Don't think I would ever get a phone again that isn't a Pixel, started going straight Google since Nexus 6 (that large phone was not for me, switched to Nexus 5X) and never been disappointed since.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Happy with battery life for me.

This little phone has surprised me.

:)

P.S. These figures were from a 90% charge.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] porky101:
Just an update from my 2nd 100% charge, seemed to get better life than the first 100% charge. Currently at 31%, ~23hr since last charge. 2hr 17min screen on time. Was more of a real day of use.

Top usage:

Screen (2hr 20min) - 13%

Android System - 8%

Youtube (35min) - 6%

Phone idle (22hr, 49min) - 6%

Chrome (31min) - 5%

Google Play Services (20hr, 48min) - 5%

Wifi - 4%

Android OS - 2%

Google Play Music (33min) - 2%

Mobile network standby - 2%
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
That's super good endurance! Did you disabled anything out of the box?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
I use tap to wake and lift to check only.

90hz is forced on in Developer settings.

I have turned off mobile data always on in Developer settings.

I have BlockThis ad blocker running.

Other than that, it's as it came out of the box.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
This is what I'm getting on WiFi below.

Today whilst out on 4G, I was getting estimates of around 5 SOT.

I'm more than happy :D
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
Everything else I have the same as you except the app and I don't do lift to wake, only tap. Will try the ad blocker app and report back
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
Freaking amazing. That's hopeful!

---------- Post added at 01:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:15 PM ----------

Something I've noticed that your data symbol has an X showing you manually disable LTE even though you have it set to turn off while on wifi through developer settings right?

I also have that disabled in developer but never realized that maybe it's a good idea to manually turn it off as well?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Yeh, only when I'm home using WiFi.

Don't forget, it does depend on App usage compared to me.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Here's an update after a couple of more hours on home WiFi.

Some YouTube, browsing and WhatsApp.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Another update.

Still on the same charge from yesterday.

On standby, calls only overnight.

Now at work since 0800 on 4G, and connected to my Sammy Smart watch via Bluetooth.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] netinetinet:
solid, enough..
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
That's impressive mainly because of and VPN and smartwatch

Have you turned off WiFi locations or something?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
I always turn off WiFi when on a network connection, and vice versa.

Location is on all the time.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Screen shot below
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
I have the feeling WiFi is destroying my battery life when I'm in Zürich (this will be my first week here with the Pixel 4, so I only have experience with the Pixel 2).

I mostly stay in two locations here: office and hotel.

Hotel WiFi or location was destroying my Pixel 2 battery life so I'll find out tonight.

View attachment 4858873
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Update again.

You can see it has munched a bit more battery as I have been on 4G for the last 8 hours.

Went to work with 64%, don't feel any battery anxiety as some reviewers have said.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Zlatty:
The battery life on this phone is just sad. I barely get half a day usage with three hours SOT. I was at 37% at 2pm today with 1:30SOT. How is this acceptable?!
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
That's strange, I've been getting around 5 hours of SOT.

I did notice last night after a full charge, it was using battery at a much faster rate.

When I checked BBS, it wasn't entering Deep Sleep.

A reboot seems to have fixed the issue though.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] MaxNXS:
Got the P4 a couple of days ago. Battery overall is decent for my typical use. Comparable to my P2. I get a SOT between 4 and 5 hours which is fine for me.

The only problem I noticed though, my overnight idle usage is about 20%. That's way too high and I can't figure out what's causing it. I am using the same apps I had 9n my P2.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dethknite:
I would put BBS on and see if you can track it down to any alarms or wakelocks from rogue apps that are not optimized etc. I have to say, battery life for me has been a bit better than my Pixel 3--I am getting around 5 hr SOT, and it lasts from 8am to 10pm with about 30% left under my current general usage. My pixel 3 was sporting around 15 - 20% at the same usage/time. I do have it rooted and am running things pretty lite.. but I also had the P3 running FDE.ai and kirisakura kernel with a number of tweaks.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] MaxNXS:
Is the Android GMS behavior normal? It looks a bit excessive.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
That's pretty much what I get too. Along with that this is my overnight drain which is pretty typical. No tweaks but I do flip my phone over so Soli doesn't activate when I reach for my glass of water. lol
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
Btw I think soli can detect you from behind too

But probably won't enabled the AOD still
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] D4rk_nVidia:
I get about 4 hours of SoT in 24 hour usage.

For an phone this size the battery life is ok. I had the S8 and Pixel 3 before and the Pixel 4 is doing an better job and I never had problems with the battery life since it's last from 8 till midnight.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dethknite:
No... that is excessive. More than 1/minute is pretty much keeping your device from dozing. It looks like location check, internet reconnect, and app activity may be culprit... as in some app is not optimized and is requesting location data way too often, or the wifi/data keeps reconnecting and causing the broadcast to send across the device waking it up. I would check not optimized apps first.. and make sure nothing is in there you truly want "not optimized" meaning do not allow system to doze them. If you have flaky wifi, or multiple wifi networks close by that you are jumping around to... you may want to only connect to the one you want to be on...
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Alcolawl:
After owning the phone for about a week I've been averaging 4-5 Hours of SoT, and according to the Battery stats in Settings, a full charge lasts ~20 Hours. Although, this has been going up by about an hour each day since I've gotten the phone. Last week I had to do several video conferences and hour+ phone calls that skewed my battery results. I've only changed one settings, which was the Always-On-Display. I don't need the feature and disabling it significantly improved battery life throughout the day. I like the fact that the Reach Gesture and everything with the Soli chip still work when AOD is disabled, so I can reach for my phone if I need a quick time check while sitting at a desk or at the bar or something.

I'm awaiting a new SIM from Google Fi, as mine is currently defective (however that works..) and once I receive it I'm fairly sure I'll be unlocking the bootloader and flashing the Kirisakura Kernel and see how battery life goes from there. But overall, everything stock, battery life is pretty decent.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dudaka:
I wonder how battery on Pixel 4 lasts with smartwatch connected to it.

For example I have Gear S3 and there are multiple apps I had to install on my OnePlus 5 in order for the watch to work properly, these apps are not battery optimised by the system so they can work all the time in the background. So in one hand, I could disable AOD on my phone, but the apps for watch could hit the battery performance.

I'm really interested in this as I'm planning to upgrade my OnePlus 5 to Pixel 4.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
I have my Galaxy Watch connected to the Pixel 4.

Works just fine without serious battery drain.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] 152bobby:
I think I have turned off all the bells and whistles on my P4 to see if it helps with the battery life, the only thing left for me to switch off the Always on Display which I really like. I suppose I could turn down the screen brightness as well.

Shame that we have all spent a fair bit of our hard earned cash on a great device, only to have to turn off all the options which made people buy it in the first place

I can only hope that the Google tech guys can come up with some wizardry software update to improve it !!
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Just an update on my previous posts about battery life.

Today my battery life was no where near what I was getting a few days ago. Estimating 3 hours SOT compared to 5-5.5.

When looking into BBS states, it was an issue with the phone not going into deep sleep when off, and one of my installed apps constantly waking the phone.

This may be of interest to those of you struggling to get decent battery life.

It's sorted now for me again, after removing the offending app, and rebooting.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dubt17:
What was the app?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Some crappy game
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Zwulf:
Get a way better battery life than on my Galaxy S9, don't regret the change a bit. Same usage, far better battery life (although it has 200 mAh less). AI analyzing usage seems to work just great. I can't understand what people do to get a bad battery life.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] cawith:
What do you get now / did you get on your S9?

I have a S10 Exynos now, which doesn't have the worlds best battery life, especially in standby, so I'm wondering if I could get the same from a Pixel 4.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
I have two S10's in the family, one Exynos, and one SD855 from America.

The SD 855 IS definitley better with battery usage.

I have a Pixel 4, and it easily matches the SD855 S10s battery performance.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] cawith:
Seriously, with both SOT and standby time/drain?

I know you can't just compare due to a lot of different apps and usage patterns, but what figures are you getting?

Do you disable a lot, to achieve it, or are most settings left stock?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Yep

Seriously. I get around 5-5.5 SOT.

Everything stock except reach to wake being off and 90hz forced on in developer settings.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] axello:
Looks too good to be true.

I'm seriously considering to get one now!
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=80699949&postcount=59
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] gpvecchi:
Actually, I have some little more battery remaining at the end of the day than Pixel 3 with same apps and settings.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] palexr:
I haven't noticed any difference with my Huawei M20P. That's not to say the battery is as good, just that the way I use my phone the battery didn't impact me. I haven't run low, run out or had battery anxiety (yet?).

I've got a smartwatch Bluetoothed and I'm a fairly heavy user. But then the phone is plugged in in the car for approximately 35 minutes on the drive home whilst I use it for navigation/traffic and audible. Now, at 22:30, I'm on 47% after relatively heavy use.

SOT says 6 hours 21 minutes since last full charge, optimistic surely?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] AJMeisterXD:
Anyone notice a faster decrease in battery life now after the november update? last charged was 1h25m ago and I'm already down by 7% (from 91% to 84%); SOT was 15 mins but the ambient display time was 1h5m. Is this normal? Does it also have to do with Soli Radar chip?