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[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
I use the FCC car launcher. The new unit is not yet implemented in FCC yet, but it works stable, even in split screen mode.

VPN should work too as there is a setting for it.

Depending on the car you want to use the unit you will loose some functionality like inclination indicator.

Just now you are not able to get rid of the top bar, even rooted.

Rooting is quite easy and is done like for each other PX5 in the market.

Some piccs about my current set up:

Edit:

The top bar in portrait mode has been changed by myself to match the landscape mode... Did never understand why they use complete different styles for portrait and landscape mode....

I will get a new firmware today... I will give some update after I got and set up the new one.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Excellent. Thanks for the help. I will be ordering in the next day. I messaged Klyde on AliExpress. Just waiting for reply so I can get 4g 64g DSP with Android Auto/Car Play. I will be using mainly landscape mode. I don't think I will be turning it to portrait mode.

Let me know what the new firmware does.

If I decide to get HDMI out port, what can I use it for? I won't be connecting to another screen. I don't know what else I can do with it . Trying to figure out if that is something I would use or not.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
HDMI out would be useful to feed backseat monitors for your kids if you have some.

I set up the new firmware without to have all apps set up again. So far so good... but:

There is still an issue that the random MAC address can not be deactivated. So if you use a router, at each full reboot a new MAC address is used which leads to a new IP address. It does not take long to not be able to connect to the router, if you don´t delete old IPs. Quite bad.

Since Android 8 there shoule be a switch in the developer menu to activate random MAC and normally this is automatically set to OFF. In these units, there is no switch and the random MAC is activated. :mad: :( :mad:

If you connect your radio by WiFi tethering from your phone it has no influence, but as I do with a WiFi router with SIM, it makes a huge difference.

The user UI did not change at all, even with the bad translation for German language. :crying: The English one is much more better.

Nevertheless, the unit is great from performance view and system. Just some things a freak like me is whining about. ;)
[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
Hey. All that is good in this device is the screen and the ability to use it in two modes: portrait and landscape. It is also possible to change the slope and height. The rest is a very controversial device with incomplete declared functionality. For example: no one in Clyde can answer how to use parking radars when reversing. Although the functionality is presented both graphically and in the MCU settings. No one could answer how to use 360-degree all-round visibility. Although the MCU has settings and there is additional software for touch switching views of the front camera, rear camera, side camera. Now about the DSP. DSP itself is not a novelty in Chinese radio, and there are already manufacturers who make a really cool DSP, 8 channels, 3-way front + center channel + subwoofer channel. The KD-1280 has the usual four channels + subwoofer, but the subwoofer channel is not used correctly. I will explain. If you are an audiophile and want to connect a subwoofer with two coils, then it will not work correctly for you, that is, in only one direction. The diffuser with the coil will go down or up, and they should alternately move up / down. If you connect a simple subwoofer with one coil, it will work. And, this means that the radio is not suitable for audiophiles and you will have to use an external DSP sound processor, which will need to be purchased separately. I wrote about this to the seller Clyde, but they do not care. There is no talk about any channel in this device. DSP is very cheap.

In general, from my own experience using this radio for 6 months, I draw the following conclusion. If you are not indifferent to the 12.8-inch Full HD screen with the possibility of universal use, then definitely take this head unit. There is no better universal screen in the Chinese market. If you are interested in the functionality and audiophile capabilities of a radio, then take something else. And one more important point. Everything will be fine, if your device works without problems without failures, if there are problems or breakdowns, then there is no support. You must be persistent to get something from sellers. There are no guarantees at all, there is no service. MCU and system updates must be requested and you can wait for them for a long time. MCU and system updates are not in the public domain. I wrote it as it is, it's up to you to decide whether or not to buy it.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Which version of this unit do you own? Is this with the newest version? I'm not audiophile anymore. I don't have subwoofer. I have just nice 4 channel amp running to front and rear in my 4runner. The customer support is worrisome.

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I got xda staff to delete my previous thread since I didn't see this one. So won't be confusing to others.

I don't have kids so then I can do without HDMI out. I'm glad new firmware seems to be good. Hopefully they issue a fix to MAC address problem. I would use wifi at home in my driveway. Then hotspot would be used when I leave tethered to my phone.

Still waiting on Klyde to answer on AliExpress to order. The people at CarBar have been very responsive but I would like to order from the actual source maker.

Is the glare on the screen really bad on sunny day?
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
You can get in direct contact with Klyde if you use their website: https://www.szklyde.com/universal-android-car-dvd/57113320.html

It´s really glare, but you can just move it a bit and the glare is gone. But I will stick a good anti glare thing on it. I have one on my spare unit (10.1") and this was for a 14" laptop. No cheap one, but it did not give blur as others do. I need to search again on Amazon for it.

Klyde answers normally within their working time. Just now it is 1AM on their side in China.

Agree with [MENTION=6669115]sun.valeo[/MENTION], to get updates is something you have to ask and wait for. I am in the situation that I can ask my colleague to write some nice words in Chinese to get it hurried up a bit.... helps sometimes... ;)

In China is no Whatsapp allowed, but I have a good contact by Skype with them and I set up QQ which is the most important chat in China. Was not that easy, but with help of my colleague it was doable.

On the other side: Pumpkin has the same unit in presale and I know that both are really the same. But just have a look at the money they call for it: https://www.autopumpkin.com/products/tesla-style-universal-car-stereo-android-12-8-inches :D

If you really want to get that size of screen, you need to stay at Klyde.

Any 10.1" unit, I would buy from Joying, with DSP, digital output, Intel chipset SC9851i and have something like a blog where to download updates. But they have nothing which is nearly comparable.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
Just some screenshots from the built in DSP:
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
If you find Amazon link for anti glare please send to me if you don't mind. I actually returned that exact Joying unit because of complaints of overheating. I wanted the 12.8 screen. I never opened it and it cost me $90.00 USD to return it from US. So this time I'm making sure whatever I buy is good for me.

Dasaita has big presence on Amazon in US. They are about to release the new Max 10 which is actually real Android 10 at 10.1" screen but they use same main board with the PX6 4gb 64gb. They have DSP and everything else also but not sure if it's better or same. Their screen resolution is 1280x720p on new lineup which is reason why I turned to look into this unit because Klyde is bigger and is 1920x1080p. Dasaita is very large company like Klyde. They were showing off their new lineup in US at Car Audio Convention a few months ago.

Their communication is very good though unlike what your saying about Klyde. As long as we have kind people on this thread to post firmware updates to help everyone out then I'm all for Klyde.

I'm not audiophile. I'm buying this to have open internet and apps like a tablet with decent music sound. I'm 40 years old now so bigger screen with great resolution gives me big clear maps and screen to see and just more convenient.

I really like Car Launcher Pro and AGAMA launcher. Have you tried those out?

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Tech Armor Anti-Glare/Anti-Fingerprint Film Screen Protector for Apple iPad Pro 12.9-inch (2015 and 2017) [2-Pack] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016B12TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_ZpK8Eb9HMGH74

Could this possibly work as screen protector? It's 12.9"
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
[MENTION=10894887]livethemountainlife[/MENTION]

All these units have more or less problems with overheating.

The new ones hav just a cooler on the SOC, no fan as the older ones. It´s a closed box without any possibility to get the heat out of it.

A fan in a closed box does nothing else to whirl the heat in the box.

That´s the reason I always use a new cover plate with a 80mm fan on 12V to get this issue fixed. No throttling, no overheat issues. CPU temp alwas around 35-40°C, even on stresstest.

I mounted a new cover plate with a 80mm fan. Super silent and not hearable in the car.

If you own a 3-D-printer you can do it yourself with this CAD

The screen protector you linked does not work, because there are 2 holes in it and the real size is not given. At least a 14" good quality protector would work, but it´s not that easy to cut it for a perfect fit.

I will give this one a try: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01I8E7WKK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
How about this link?

This is one specifically for Tesla

Model 3 Model Y 15" Center Control Touchscreen Car Navigation Touch Screen Protector Tempered Glass 9H Anti-Scratch and Shock Resistant for Model 3 Screen Protector https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KNZC63H/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_eXK8EbYS5H98Y

How hard is it to add a small fan like what you mention? If I have decent instructions I could do it.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
I think you won´t be able to cut this one, it´s glass... On top, there are no exact measurements.

To mount such a fan is done within 10 minutes. ;)

The printing in ABS plastic takes about 2-3 hrs.

If you use a 5V fan with only 2 pins, you can use the internal connector on the board. If you use a 12V fan, you need to cut off the plug put it through one of the spare holes in the back (use some heat shrink tubing as protector) and connect it to the ANT cable and ground.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Ok, I don't have a 3D printer so I would have to just hope it doesn't overheat.

I'm trying to find a company that is more customer service friendly for US that sells KLYDE.

What do you think about CarBar on AliExpress? They have had the most communication so far with me and they sell all options of KLYDE.

I'm going to give KLYDE another day here in US to respond via AliExpress. I also sent email via their website that you posted for me and asked for someone with English communication.

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Do you use AliExpress? There are giving away free screen protector with purchase. You could message them and buy it independently since it's exact match and not worry about fitment.

This is who I was going to order from.

Carbar 12.8" Tesla Style Rotation IPS Screen 2 Din

https://a.aliexpress.com/_dXG94iW
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
Never heard about this reseller. But why not trying them.

The communicaten with Klyde is always in English.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
I just wanted to use recovery to do a clean setup...

I don´t know what they smoked, but the integrated recovery mode is just usable with Vol+, Vol- and power button... :laugh::laugh::laugh:

As you all know, there is no way, because the unit is without hardkeys and power button. What the heck is gonig on there. :confused:

I just sent a message to get this fixed.

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[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
This is a parody of the DSP. :) I recommend to look at the real DSP 8 channels. :good:

https://youtu.be/vg2nZWhkJ4c
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Which is better Amplifier TDA7388 or TDA7850? I see some have either one. Is one better then the other or does it even matter?
[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
Pay attention to the device at the end of the video 13.3 inches 1920x1080. This is Ownice, which, as far as I know, is the only one that installs a cool 8-channel DSP in its devices. https://vk.com/video433205425_456239058?list=f84de57884265abd6a

This is their site http://www.ownice.com Here you can chat with representative Vera Khan https://vk.com/ownice3

P.S. I'm really thinking of selling the Klyde KD-1280 and buying the Ownice 13.3 inches + 8 DSP channels. In addition, they really have the full functionality of the device.

You decide. I personally became disappointed in the KD-1280. It causes delight at first, but the farther, the more it disappoints me. And, with the advent of Ownice 13.3 diagonal 1920x1080, in general there is no doubt about replacing the device.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Ok, I will look into it. I've heard of Ownice before in US. I didn't know they made a 13.3 model with 1920x1080 specs. I heard they are good company.

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Ownice doesn't show the 13.3" model at all. I've looked on their website and on AliExpress. They have the 10.1 but not the 13.3.

Joying also just released this which I think you will like.

https://youtu.be/CGQlcHiPL-g
[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
I gave you the contacts of Vera Khan, contact her and find out by the model you are interested in. She communicates perfectly in three languages, including English.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
hmmm... had a look at these devices.

Thea are mounted fixed and not really adjustable as the Klyde unit.

I would say okay, if you have tested this device, but just to decide from some video to present it as better as the Klyde... hmmm... difficult. :confused:
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
I talked to Vera. Ownice does not have the 13.3 available right now. There is problems with it so it's not going to be released until October this year. Only 10.1 is available. Just wanted to let you know.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Your welcome Sun.Valeo. Joying does have a 13.3 inch auto rotatable unit available by request only. Their DSL is actually better. I'm going to order this unit tomorrow. Android is 8.1 if your ok with that. It comes with 2 year warranty. I hope this helps

https://youtu.be/hu-kKUBxRRA
[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
I met this device a couple of months ago. I've had enough experiments. At one time, I listened to advice on buying Klyde and here is a personal experience. It is worth noting that the build quality of the device is excellent, but everything else is below average. therefore, I will not experiment, but I will wait for the device from the responsible manufacturer Ownice.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Please post a review of Ownice once you have purchased it and experimented.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
[MENTION=6669115]sun.valeo[/MENTION],

it makes no sense to discuss with you about the Klyde unit. You always compare the old version of this unit, delivered with Android 8 with the new one.

I never put this unit on the top best units in the segment,but there has been a lot done since the new board and update to Android 9. Most issues you pointed out are fixed, some new came in, but they are at least minor bugs... just personal things, most user would not even recognize.

Yes, there are still software issues, but nearly all things can be circled around with some good launcher, incl. compass.

Yes, you will loose the OEM pitch angle..., compass, but you won´t have it in any other unit too.

To just reduce your bad rating and your devaluation to the in your eyes crap DSP is, to be honest, not professional.

Nearly 90% of the user don´t have HiFi equipment in their cars, and for them the settings enabled in this unit are more than nearly every other unit is able to.

Nearly all units have just an equalizer, nothing else.

This unit has at least a run-time correction dependent on the distance to the listener.

Believe me... This is by far not the only unit I have. Just now I still have 4 different units from different supplier on bench and in car and I am able to compare them.

It just needs some fine-tuning by Klyde. Joying for sure has a better update politic and Klyde needs to work on that, but they are selling their units to reseller as Pumpkin and a lot of others who are also not that active with providing updates.

But I learned, that often user just see an update somewhere lying around, are downloading and installing each and every update... even if it is not usable for the units they have. I had long discussions with Pumpkin about that and they reduced mails/ threads about bricked units to nearly 10% compared to the time they offered every update on their website.

...and let me say some words about your postings.... and please take it not as blaming...

It would really appreciated, if you would not press your postings together like you do it just now. It´s really difficult to read.
[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
Great post! Well, let's get to the point. What optional equipment do you use in your car with the KD-1280? I believe this information is how experience will be useful to the user of this device! :)
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
What are the advantages of stepping up to Android 9 from 8.1?

I can't seem to find key differences on the forum to understand what changes for the better.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
Sorry, but what has this to do with the fact that you point user to a unit which you never tested in your car?

I use a Rockford Fosgate R2 with MTX tweeter, Hifonics Speaker in the doors and a OEM Woofer box with a new 30cm Kicker woofer at an extra Rockford Fosgate T750 Monoblock.

...If you want more, you never should by a headunit from China...

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The difference is not only the Android version, it´s the difference on the mainboard and the MCU which came in with Android 9 version of this unit.

It has a deep sleep mode which is not available on the 8.1 version, which allows to force the startup to nearly 1 second.

By the way... I never use a head unit with the delivered launcher, because they all are more or less useless and just able to use the delivered apps and the home screen is always blocked with the given "features" of the device.

May be [MENTION=6669115]sun.valeo[/MENTION] is on another level of HiFi in his car, but there is no real reason to blame it like he does.... I had really crap units from Pioneer and Kenwood in my cars the last few years, and the given sound settings are more than any 1.500 bucks expensive Japanese radio.

But... Yes, my car is no concert hall and I am able to hear the difference between my home equipment and the one in my car.
[Android Head-Units] livethemountainlife:
Ok, that makes sense. I ended up ordering 13.3" 1920x1080p Joying auto rotatable.

Intel Airmont eight-core 1.8GHz SC9853i

Ram:LPDDR4*4GB*Rom:Samsung*64GB

Android 8.1.0

We will see how it holds up. It does come with a 2 year warranty. So I'm hoping that is true.

Like you said, they all have their pro's and cons. I'm not an audiophile. I just want something that has nice clear picture with decent sound and I can add apks to enjoy.

I almost chose Klyde. I wasn't sure if the bar at the top was removable or stays on the whole time even when watching movies.

If you have experience with joying, I would definitely value your input. The response from them has been excellent. It made me feel more comfortable.
[Android Head-Units] rigattoni:
The Intel SC9853 i is a quite good CPU.

I have a 7" unit from them with a great IPS screen.

The units are fast and have a real digital out if you use amplifiers with digital in.

They are easily to root, there is a good support on their side in their own blog, so no bad choice.

Hopefully they provide MCU and firmware updates for this unit soon. You won´t be able to choose one of the existing firmware because it won´t work with this special one.

I had the same idea before I ordered the Klyde, to wait for the one from Joying. I heard about plans for this unit in February this year and I was able to see and use the 9,7" unit from them a while ago. The only issue for me was and still is, that the screen is not movable sidewards and can not be changed in the viewing angle to minimize the glare. It´s just turnable from portrait to landscape... that´s all.

This was the reason to not buy the Joying unit. From technical perspective they do a great job at Joying, this is no question.

As I don´t need this automatic turn, I decided to give Klyde a chance with this one.
[Android Head-Units] sun.valeo:
Hey. there are only two versions of KD-1280/12501, this is an outdated board with Android 8.1 and updated with Android 9.0 in which there is already a DSP. I wrote about the problems of version 8.1, which is just awful. But, as I understand it, version 9.0 is not much better. Yes, in the updated version there is DSP, but as it was written earlier, it is below the average level. Yes there is a sleep mode, but this is not an achievement. I don’t understand how a manufacturer of such a level as Klyde could put on sale a device with no sleep mode! There is also fake Android 9.0 for the old 8.1 board. This firmware does not fix problems and does not expand the functionality, it's just a change of numbers from 8.1 to 9.0! :D

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In my opinion you are on your own wave! :D I did not ask you about the acoustic components that you use in the car! I ask you what additional equipment you use with the KD-1280 ?! I explain: by the additional equipment used by the Android device, I mean equipment that extends the functionality of the device, which allows you to use the device more comfortably. If you still do not understand, I can add you a complete list of equipment that should have been used by the MCU firmware and the KD-1280 system. :)

Postscript In my car there is a complete monobrand of acoustic components of the Pioneer Pro series.

Processor: Pioneer DEQ-S1000A - 1 joke.

Amplifier: Pioneer GM-D8604 - 2 pcs.

Acoustics: Pioneer TS-M650PRO - 1 pair.

Pioneer TS-M800PRO - 1 pair.

Pioneer TS-B350PRO - 2 pairs.

Monoblock: Pioneer GM-D9601 - 1 pc.

Subwoofer: Pioneer TS-W3002D4 - 1 pc.

I don’t care how and on what you listen to music or whether your financial situation allows you to use expensive brands. It is important for me with what additional equipment you use the KD-1280 ?!:cool:

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Congratulations on your choice! When you decide to write about the device, give me a link in private messages or write your impressions if you do not want to open a topic about this device in the forum. :) :good: