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[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Thanks for all the positive feedback, I really appreciate it. I'm not going to call the project off. I just don't want anyone to have the misconception that our project is far enough along to be used full-time. We're definitely getting there, but there's a lot more work to do. All our releases so far have been for testing. I like to put out frequent releases to get new stuff into your hands faster. Release early, release often -- that's the mantra of open source. That way I can find what doesn't work for you that does for me, so we can get all the variations and bugs worked out.

I'll continue to put out periodic pre releases like I have been -- without that I wouldn't have learned about the locked SIM card issue until we put out 0.4 (whenever that will be). By all means, don't feel like you can't report problems here. Just be sure it's something I don't already know. :) Reading posts here and looking at the wiki are the best ways to figure out what I know.

And as always, the more help I get with all this, the faster we can go. Feel free to contribute any way you feel comfortable. It's always welcomed.

Thanks again for the positive comments and for all the testing feedback. Let's get back to work, shall we? :)

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moneyslap03:
Im not sure if you said this earlier but do you know about the SD card issue as i was trying to download a app and a few photos off the web browser and it said the card was not inserted?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
I've been working on a fix to that, and at least in the repository is checked in a fix that should allow Android to see the contents of your storage card as an actual storage card. With all defaults, you end up with ~200mb free of device memory and all the rest of your storage card for storage. Seems to work well for me (or would if I didn't have filenames that Android doesn't like :)) That'll be in 0.4pre2, whenever it makes it out.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moneyslap03:
I look forward.. thanks for the reply
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] jsievert:
First off, thanks darkstar62 for all the hard work on this project. I just got a used wing and am excited to give this a try. I do have one quick question that I did not see on the site. Is it possible to go back and forth between android and the default os? Forgive me if this questions sounds silly. I would like to try it knowing that its alpha be able to go back to the current one.

Thanks again all!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xnappo:
I am sure in some way I am being a moron, but I have tried multiple ways of extracting both .3 and .4pre1, and whenever I try to launch 'Wing Linux' either from the icon, or the direct 'haret-0.5.2' I get 'haret-0.5.2' is not a valid Pocket PC application.

Any ideas? I have downloaded the cab from multiple computers, and tried downloading the cab directly from my Wing...

xnappo
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Extracting?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xnappo:
Meaning I tried installing the cab from the Wing as usual, and when that didn't work, I tried manually extracting the files in WinZip and moving them over. Same thing. Also tried downloading haret-0.5.2 from here:

http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/

Same thing... Weird.

xnappo
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Your phone is not signature unlocked. What ROM are you using?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xnappo:
Some ancient Touch-IT ROM from here(from like two years ago)... 'About' says:

CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 1919905.2.4)

Thanks,

xnappo
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Try finding "aserg's policies" and installing that first.

That's the easiest way to "bypass" the signature policies aside from modifying the kernel itself while cooking.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
...whoah, there's been a lot of activity...wonder why I didn't get an email.

Anyway, yes, it's absolutely possible. When you're ready to reboot back to wm6, just reset your phone. It boots that by default. The installation is perfectly safe -- everything goes to the storage card and runs from there. No bootloader replacement is made, nor is the ROM touched in any way. Simply reboot to be back into WM6.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
You don't perchance have a non-English phone, do you? There's been some discussion on the SF forums about this issue. Apparently WM6 will locale-ize the "Storage Card" directory, making the hack I put in to force to storage card fail miserably for phones that aren't localed in English.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] xnappo:
Well, my phone was not originally non-english, however I believe the ROM I am running is actually a Herald ROM (I have to run AEKMap for the hardware keyboard to work right).

I tried the 'aserg policies' cab, but it didn't seem to do anything.

Sounds like I need to update to a 'modern' ROM. As you can tell, I have been out of it for a while.

Thanks for the help guys,

xnappo
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] htc_wing23:
htc wing

SO this google android, is it the same program that the G1 is running? I saw a t-mobile wing on youtube running android 1.5. Which one is faster on the wing? android of windows mobile 6.5? How many android software is there? thanks
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moneyslap03:
yes it is the same OS as the G1. Currently Windows Mobile 6.5 is more stable then Android running on the Wing. Android is open source so it can be ported to any platform that is hardware capable.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Even better, Android can be made to run on hardware it's not designed for :) I will agree though, WM is currently more stable than Android, though Android has some speed advantages over WM (except when you run low on memory, which happens almost immediately right now).

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
So we've got a new forum system setup for wing-linux based on phpBB. Should be a lot better, and we can start topics on targeted things here instead of just posting continuations to this thread. It can be had at:

http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/wing-linux/index.php

We've got forums currently for general use of the project, development, and another for just any conversation that doesn't quite fit anywhere else.

There's currently a topic going concerning development on the HTC Gene, so if you know anything about that, feel free to join in. :)

And as always, we've got our chat room at #wing-linux.

See you there.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] PublicITI:
I would also like to give a feedback.

- It runs fast

- I really like it

- It irritates that the Buttons are mapped wrong

- I can't unlock the device, if I inserted my Swisscom SIM-Card.

|--> It keeps telling me that my Code is wrong, but it isn't
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Buttons mapped wrong...What device are you using? Is it an English phone or a different language? Currently the mappings we use are geared towards English phones, so that could be why the mappings are off.

As to the sim card issue, that's known, and I've manage to get recent development versions to accept the pin, but Android then doesn't continue connecting. I need to do more research on that. In the meantime, the only way to use it is to disable the PIN password.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
They're mapped to the Wing, not the Herald, I believe.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neoobs:
We can fix that if someone with a Herald wants to come forward and help, currently I do not have a herald so I can't make the mappings for it and test if they work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
0.4pre2 Out for Testing

Been a while since I posted here. So, I come bearing gifts! Check it out:

Many popular APNs have been integrated for GPRS support out-of-the-box

Bluetooth works (Linux only, no Android for now)

Somewhat working screen rotation support

No more use of swap files! We use compressed main memory now!

New friendlier installation using progress bars and dialog boxes

Storage card support in Android -- uses your windows partition

Real-time clock support

https://sourceforge.net/projects/wing-linux/files/

Remember to remove your rootfs.img and rootfs.img.swp files before running this, or nothing will upgrade! You'll lose any settings you may have had.

Enjoy

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] oenukr:
Hello.

I have a problem with 0.4pre2. I can not see any APN's in settings and I can not add new APN (it is not saved, after I enter settings).

I have Xda Terra from german o2 and also o2 sim card.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Classic problem...what are you using for your MNC/MCC numbers, and can you supply the output of the command:

chroot /android /system/bin/logcat -b radio

You can get to a console using SSH over a USB cable. If you don't have the right numbers, you won't see the entry in the list.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] oenukr:
I used numbers found in internet:

MCC - 262

MNC - 07

see attachment
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Hmm..hard to tell from the logs. It'd be better if you could get the logs right after a fresh boot.

When you entered the info, did you make sure to do Menu -> Save instead of just hitting the back button? Gotta do that, otherwise it won't save.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] N3xt2N0N3:
How is this going my Wing died RIP T-Mobile Wing. You guys mad huge advancements with this. Good JoB!!

EDIT: Is there anything that needs to be updated on the first page?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
I don't think so. Maybe add something about the wiki and a blurb about it all, but it's up to you.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] N3xt2N0N3:
ok cool. your doing an amazing job.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moneyslap03:
Thanks for the update its looking great but how would i be able to access the android market as its not apart of the Firmware
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
The market app isn't open source, so it isn't distributed as part of the android source code. I think the only way you'll be able to make any use of it is if you find it somewhere online and install it. It not being open source means I can't distribute it, so I think that's your best bet.

It might need the google login service too, which I have yet to figure out how to get working.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
Anyone have any idea as to when this project will be complete, or if it is near completion :o?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Check out the status page on the wiki for the latest on features:

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki/Status

As for when we'll be complete...whenever we complete. :) Development is done on a volunteer basis on spare time, so the more help I get with this, the faster we can go.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
Wow so you guys have really gotten far :D!! w00p w00p, is it possible for the android to be umm.. whats the word...e.e idk but w/e into an NBH file :o? or is it always going to have to be booted from the phone and be a temporary image :S

EDIT: How far are you guys from enabling service, me wanna call n text! o.o

Edit(again): disregard that question lol.. but good luck on getting the rest of it to work ^.^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Not sure about flashing, but there's EOL, which is a boot loader for booting off storage card. In the future, we could possibly use that to bypass booting into WM and boot straight to Linux/Android. I think currently it doesn't support SDHC cards though, so we'd be limited to 2gb cards. However, we could have Android/Linux taking up the entire card and all would be good.

I think there is preliminary support for the disk-on-chip flash, but I haven't tested it yet (kinda worried to, in case something bad happens). If we have access to that, there's really nothing stopping us from loading something like uboot or redboot as an on-flash bootloader to get into Linux directly. Then we could package that up as an NBH file for flashing.

We've got a ways to go before we're ready for that though, unless someone wants to take up work on that.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
We could even (as a first step) set up a completely stripped ROM (like TOTALLY stripped) that automatically boots it while booting. (That is until we can get any of the other options you mentioned set up.) But then we'd have to have access to the main storage. And we'd need to let Android know to create it's files in the writable storage partition.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Getting Android to be able to write to the storage is easy -- in fact, it should work without modification right now. We'd need to add some redirection in the apps directory to allow storing apps to storage card, but that's easy enough.

Lemme find out more about the DoC support we have from the linwizard kernel -- it may not be ready to use yet.

UPDATE: Just talked with ali1234 -- the DoC driver can presently read the entire flash, but we can't mount the filesystem or write to it yet, so we'll have to wait a bit for that.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] illconcepts:
Wow great work! It runs smooth! I don't think all the apps are showing up for me though (email mainly) how do i go about installing new apps? Sorry if its already been asked.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] N3xt2N0N3:
Yes you are required to login your gmail account to use the android market. I can also supply you the apk of market if you want it. I also have youtube gmail etc. whatever you need. Just PM me darkstar.

I could supply the market
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neoobs:
you can't just add the market and other apks... you need to build it with those integrated because of the login service. Otherwise they just forceclose because the login libraries are missing.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
Pardon me aswell if this has already been asked, but how do i get the GSM to work, i don't have any service, and on top of that my storage card isn't showing up.

(lucky person up there his runs smoothly, meanwhile mine runs slow at times.)

And if this has any rellivancy to my question and can help you answer it, i have a 4GB sd card :l..

EDIT: Gmail login thingamabob can go to h*ll -.-....
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
We, G1 owners, get ROMs that are build from the source code that have the login service and the market so it's done, but I'm not sure what exactly the insert into the ROM. (What libraries and such.) We should contact Cyanogen from the Dream android development forum. He would know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] neoobs:
The repo has changed since I last looked at it. There is a googlelogin service folder now. Maybe this is what works... I can talk to cyn or a couple others.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Just thought I'd let you all know that Wing Linux 0.4pre3 is out on Sourceforge. Get it at http://wing-linux.sf.net.

The installation for this one works a bit different than previous ones. In particular, there's two cab files of interest -- the *-rootfs.cab file, which contains all the common root image and kernels, and the *-herald.cab file which contains the Herald-specific files. You'll want to install both of these.

Please also remember to delete any rootfs.img file you might have in your /Storage Card/linux directory if you installed previous versions of it, as it will not be replaced automatically.

Lemme know how it works!

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
Awesome work! But it's not working too well for me.

It boots up fine and I get all the way to the home screen. But the touchscreen doesn't seem to work. I have to navigate using the wing's hardware buttons. Touching the screen would result in unselecting (ex.If Artist was selected in the Music section, tapping the Albums would result in Artist being unselected. If I opened the Menu in the homescreen to add stuff, the menu would just close.)

Also, how come it starts out in landscape mode? It's really weird, especially because the Wing's keyboard is on the otherside. And is the sleep button mapped to the end call button? Because pressing that causes the Wing to go into command prompt with "android_power_suspend" printed on the screen. Though pressing it again will allow me to get back to Android.

Besides that, it seems very quick and responsive. Great improvement over the last build I tried. Keep up the mind blowing work!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
When you installed, did you delete your rootfs.img file from /Storage Card/linux? Upon first boot you should have gotten a touchscreen calibration view just before it starts android. If you didn't get that, try removing rootfs.img and starting it again.

The touchscreen driver for 0.4pre3 changed so that it requires ts_calibrate data to operate correctly. This was so we could get as many different touchscreens working as possible with their own unique calibration. Without any calibration at all, the driver reports raw events, and Android doesn't understand that.

I think default behavior for the End button is to go into suspend. You can change that through the Spare Parts app to just take you home, or do nothing. It does actually work to end calls too.

As for the starting in landscape mode, I think that has to do with the lid switch initial position in the kernel. Gotta figure that one out -- sliding the keyboard out and back in should fix it.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I had the same issue but it may have been that the first calibration point got pushed by me accidently before I realized that it was asking for a calibration point. I'll try again today.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
Ah! Well I saw multiple rootfs and I just deleted one thinking that the other one was supposed to stay. I guess I was wrong. So i deleted everything and decided to go for a fresh install and it worked like a charm!

BTW, is there a way to turn off the emulator without restarting the whole phone?

Thanks again.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
No, since it's not an emulator. It literally kicks Windows Mobile out of RAM.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
oooh, my bad. Thanks for the clear up bro. I swear, you're everywhere. Especially when someone is needed.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ajige:
Great work!

It's amazing how far it's come. Yesterday, I could send and receive SMS under Android on my Wing:). It was interesting though that these messages didn't show up when I rebooted into Windows mobile, but I guess that's because Android takes over completely when it's running.

Interesting that you can call out and you can hear the other person, but the person can't hear you! Also I guess it can't get incoming calls?

It will be great when the phone and internet works too.

Keep up the good work! Thanks!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
So all the other cab files need to just be deleted, or just ignore them?

Edit:I just love how when you call someone they can hear you but you can't hear them LMFAO, and wooo the screen goes into landscape mode when you flip out your keyboard lovley lovley ^^
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
yeah, the cab files that don't apply to the herald should just be ignored -- they contain default.txt files for the other platforms.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrE_braxx:
I just can't wait untill you can actually hear the person that you are talking to on the phone lol XD just keep up the good work :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] EmilianM:
Darkstar62..this is not happening on HTC Wizard...do we have to modify some file somewhere ?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] marek1:
Nice work

Hi Guys,

nice work with the 0.43 build works very well. Well done. Keep working on it.

How can I configure the connection that Internet Browser will find the connection settings ?

Just to know what doesnt work:

The HW keyboard rotation doesnt work properly in some applications

ring melody cant be configured

Calendar doesn't work

File browser will be nice to have it

Cant view which mobile operator I am using

Wifi doesnt work

Camera doesnt work

cant view SDcard
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Not even the G1 has a file browser. :p You have to download a third party app for it. But you know what? I don't miss having one. For some reason, I don't need it like I did with my Wing. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] marek1:
1.How can I configure the connection that Internet Browser will find the connection settings ?

2. How can I know which mobile provider phone uses ?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] enatefox:
Hey, I just got a Wing given to me. I've been working with Android on Kaiser/Vogue for over a year. Forgive me for not having read every post on this thread but I'm not sure how far you've been able to get-- I just see that it kinda sorta boots.

Seems this thread is dead. I will see what I can come up with as I think this phone will be almost the same for me. I'll keep you updated.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kingsteve032:
This still being worked on?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
This thread may be slowing, but our project is still under heavy development. Some highlights coming soon:

Android Eclair is undergoing testing. Currently it boots, but is slow. Optimization is needed before we can release it.

Audio support is very close to ready. Only a few odds and ends remain before the driver is 100%.

With help from Google, we'll soon have working GSM audio routing, enabling full two-way audio during calls without having to boot in during a call.

It may not seem it, but we're very active on #wing-linux, and there's a lot coming. Stay tuned :)

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] numaverick:
It's great!...

thanks..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] aerovolce:
Yay! Thank you. I was worried for a second there haha. Thank you guys for all the hard work :) looking forward to it.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CheeseDave:
yEp I'm waiting for it too.

Will be there any ways to run Windows Mobile games on it?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Yes -- reboot your phone :)

Our Android installation doesn't replace Windows Mobile -- it runs completely from storage card. So in effect, you can dual boot (though you need to boot Android from WM; you can't boot directly in yet).

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] numaverick:
Thanks for all!!

may be used Gen.Y dualboot?...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=623792

but says: "solution for Windows Mobile devices with XDANDROID"
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Hmm, there's a VERY good shot that would work for us. It requires haret.exe to exist either at the root of the storage card or in /Storage Card/Android, so all we'd need to do to use it is rename the existing /Storage Card/linux directory to Android and set the appropriate registry key for the bootloader.

I might just test this later this afternoon. :)

- d

EDIT: Hmm...Simply renaming the linux folder to Android would make our boot scripts die a horrible death. We'd need to create a new Android folder instead and copy herat.exe, zImage, initramfs.cpio.gz, and default.txt in there to make it work. Maybe I can contact the author of it and have him add support for /linux in addition to / and /Android... :)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] djnek:
this is amazing i jut got a Wing and I can say this is just amazing, can't wait till we got 2 way communication...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] rshabou:
audio support yet?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] numaverick:
hey darkstar62

"XDAndroid For TouchPro2 Wifi Working"...

There is some progress t.mo wing?

thanks in advance..
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] darkstar62:
Slow progress. Many (most) of the developers, myself included, have become rather busy lately and haven't had a chance to work much. Audio support is in the works, but there's still some bugs to iron out. More developers on the project can always help, especially in the Android parts of things, but we need people willing and able to dissect the hardware in their phones too.

Until and unless we have more developers or time, things will probably remain slow for a while. But fear not, we're still going.

- d
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] N3xt2N0N3:
If anyone has any input and are willing to help please let us know.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] numaverick:
I can be a betatester : )

you can apply themes / skin?...