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[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
That happened to me a few times too. I think once you send a text to someone the carrier sticks. But for a while you might need to double check. Small inconvenience but worth only needing one phone for both lines. Can you get RCS working reliably?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] CyberpodS2:
For some reason my esim Google Fi seems to be stuck on T-Mobile Edge and can't figure out how to fix it. Tried Fi-Switch but doesn't seem to be actually making any changes. My physical sim is Verizon. Just looking for others with the same setup to verify they are good to go with no issues before I start pulling out the big guns. IE resetting or at least deleting and reinitiating the esim.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] mydjtl:
I got the same problem except I'm using visible as my data Sim and Google fi for calls and texting which I think is the dream setup. I have unlimited unthrottled data for $40 a month and then I paid 20 for Google fi and when I travel I can use Google fi which is way cheaper than Verizon. I was hoping that someone here would say there's an app that would force my phone to use on the Google fi esim for texting but I guess we'll still have to wait for someone to make that

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you can try backing up your text messages and erasing the memory of your text messaging app that worked for me to restart RCS but then when I went back to dual SIM it went away not sure if it'll work for visual voicemail
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
Has anyone tried unlocking t-mobile variant yet?I have eSIM activated with T-Mobile. Is there a difference between t-mobile variant and the google store version? I was able to get T-mobile to SIM unlock the device but when i put a Verizon SIM in it doesn't let me use both at the same time.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pinkgabe:
I have an unlocked t-mobile variant also. I have t-mo on the e-sim and at&t in the physical sim. i, too, can not use both sims at the same time. hoping the feature comes in an update or with a custom rom
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
can we just flash the google store variant firmware, and maybe that would work?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jokerpoker1:
Good evening, I have been using the e-sim in Italy with Tim operator for a week and everything is going very well. An advice to the reader and is Italian, know that the apn preset by e-sim will not let you browse, create a new apn ibox.tim and return the mobile network. The question instead is: is there an application that allows me to put the physical sim off?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
No, not at this time. You need to pull the physical sim out to disable it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] jokerpoker1:
Unfortunately I imagined, thanks for the reply
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pinkgabe:
I haven't really had time to look into it but that was always the case with all of my previous phones. I'll keep you updated if I find anything.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
What do you mean "at the same time"? They should both be on standby when not in use. There is only one radio in the device so if it's in use with one line the other becomes inactive.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
What I think he means, because I too have this Issue, is that when you install the 2nd(physical) SIM it doesnt give you the option to have them both be active. I tells you "which one you want to use" eSIM or physical SIM.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
I was wondering this myself. I have TMobile esim and another TMobile physical sim and it only allows me to use one sim at a time.

I read somewhere that we can root and run a command that enables DSDS bit I'd rather not root. Flashing stock firmware I'm good with.

Here is the command I read elsewhere:

setprop persist.vendor.radio.multisim_switch_support true
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
where do you run this command?

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NVM im guessing with terminal emulator

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That didnt work for me. but found this. You have to be rooted but worked!

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/app-multisim-toggle-t2830647
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
Just saw this. Yea in terminal.

So you're rooted on stock TMobile rom and that toggle worked for dsds? Did you get the option for bootloader unlock once you unlocked the Sim?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
So, once I unlocked the bootloader I flashed stock images from Google. I rooted and then the toggle with the app I found (that I linked) worked. Was able to have both SIMS working. Had issues with RCSwith it though.

And yes once SIM unlocked the toggle pops up for the bootloader.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] vonDubenshire:
How did TMobile unlock it for you?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
just call or do a chat with them, they'll do it if you ask.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
That's great. Thanks for trying that out and making it work.

I wonder if you factory reset now that you've flashed stock and enabled DSDS, will it keep the setting?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bestofrhcp:
You mean if I factory reset after the fact?. IDK thats a good question
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
So I finally got my Pixel 4 sim unlocked and the OEM Bootloader Unlock option appeared.

I'll flash the stock firmware now but is it still necessary to root and use the utility to enable DSDS?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] uicnren:
Should not have to root.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Or bootloader unlock. It works out of the box.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] speakeasy2:
Has anyone been able to do this on Google fi? With one physical sim and an esim.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] localceleb:
Wondering this too...
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
Well, I flashed stock Google images. (Tried Dec and Jan updates.) Neither of them worked with DSDS.

At first, it says that it can support two sims but upon restart, it goes right back to one sim at a time.

Tried it with the following (factory reset after each try):

-T-Mobile esim and physical sim.

-T-Mobile esim and Three (UK) physical sim. -GoogleFi esim and T-Mobile Physical sim.

I had DSDS working on a Pixel 3a with no issues. Obviously I made mistake buying a carrier version of the Pixel 4.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Can you explain exactly what you are trying to do?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
Yeah, just trying to have both sims active at the same time. To be able to choose one sim as primary that uses voice/text/data and the second sim just as voice/text. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
The first and second sim will be on standby ready to receive calls and text but not actually active. Both sims are never active simultaneously. If you select one sim as default then all outgoing text and calls will go through that one. But you can also select "ask every time" and then you can choose at the time which to use. You are not getting that menu under network in settings?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
No, it won't give me the option of setting one active and one standby. I posted some screenshots to see what's happening.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I see. Yeah that's messed up. This is the way it should look.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
Where did you get your Pixel from and what firmware do you have? Mine is QQ1B.200105.004 purchased from T-Mobile.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Same firmware bought from Fi store. I had the same options when I bought my 3a from the Google store too. Looks to me like TMobile sold a crippled device. You should be able to get your money back. Damn shame companies do that. We already know Verizon does it but that shouldn't be an excuse for others to do it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
Yeah....lesson learned. I'll flip this and hopefully don't lose too much in the process. Need to have a second line for work.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] TheEeyo:
Update 1: Spoke to T-Mobile rep. She found a bulletin stating that the DSDS should have been enabled on the Tmo Pixel 4. The update wasn't released on Jan 10th and there is no word on when it will be released.

Update 2: Picked up an unlocked Pixel 4 from Best Buy. Dual SIM worked right out of the box. T-Mobile esim with a T-Mobile physical Sim. Both active at the same time (data from only one at a time of course).

Don't bother with rooting to enable DSDS. Just get Google edition phones.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Guides, News, & Discussion] pinkgabe:
For some reason, I'm now having both Sims active with the options to choose one for data & one for calls/texts - I'm on an unlocked TMobile pixel 4. Try you settings again
[Android Head-Units] mclaudio:
hello to all

i have enable the OBD present on my unit and added to the connector. it is connected by bluetooth (or i should connect by usb)?

altough i cannot pair it i think

is there any procedure to correctly do it?

thanks
[Android Head-Units] nic2k:
It should work with bluetooth but you have to pair it through the OBD app not the Android settings menu.
[Android Head-Units] mclaudio:
thanks [MENTION=9743346]nic2k[/MENTION] i do not have acess to bluetooth settings...only phone bluetooth on my device. what do you suggest?

thanks
[Android Head-Units] haroldil23:
go to my thread:

https://xdaforums.com/android-auto/android-head-units/china-head-unit-8227l-obd-connection-t3990607
[Android Head-Units] JIMMYRECARD:
Px6 rk3399 obd

HI All,

I just installed this unit. ( sorry, will not allow me to post link)

Android9 13.6" Tesla style Car No DVD Player GPS Navigation For Ford Mondeo Fusion MK5 2017+ radio tape recorder multimedia unit

There is a setting for Speed+ Rotation. which does not seem to work, I have tried several possibilities but can't get it to work. I am of the understanding the the OBD Plug is connected to the ECU under the dash. There are only 2 pins on the plug from the Head unit. Is there an additional setting or perhaps i'm missing something.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
With the battery being smaller on the pixel 4 and smaller than the pixel 3, do you think the pixel 4 will make it thru a day without being recharged ?

How are the users with the pixel 3 getting on with the smaller battery ?

I've ordered the pixel 4, but I am really concerned that the battery won't be large enough. The mobile nature of my job means the phone is constantly searching for mobile signal as I drive 400 mile per night.

My pixel 2xl at 2 years old still does a 15hr shift without needing a charger plugged in to top up..

I think it's going to be try the phone for the first week and if the phone doesn't manage to do what the pixel 2xl does, it will be sadly returned and I will wait for pixel 5..

Also gutted the oh so orange pixel 4 isn't available in 128gb version.. Google what are you thinking ???
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] barondebxl:
MOD EDIT

Lets try not being so abrasive. Please remember this going forward.

Thank you,

apophis9283
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
Didn't want a 4xl barondebxl. It's bigger than the 2xl and with a military grade drop protection case around it, it would be taking the phone close to a 7inch phone... Just too big.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sic0048:
Can't you simply keep the phone plugged in while driving? A small battery only matters if you are NOT close to a power source.

I know with the Pixel 3a series phones, the battery is bypassed once it is fully charged, but still plugged into a charger (called battery idle mode). So there is zero bad repercussions from leaving the phone plugged in for extended periods of time. I'm not sure if the earlier Pixel series batteries do this, but I would be surprised if the Pixel 4 didn't have this feature.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
It all depends on your situation.

My Pixel 2 lasts 24-36 hours and 4 hours SoT when I'm in my home city (Barcelona) (And If I disable AOD, I can get like 48 hours at home, I charge it after 2 nights).

But it lasts 12-18 hours with 1-3 SoT when I'm in the city I'm staying during the week for work (Zürich). And I can't figure out why the battery drains so fast in the hotel I'm staying (like 30% overnight). Tonight I'll try Airplane mode + WiFi.

Battery health is around...80-86%/100% I can't remember well. It's almost 2 years old.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] MishaalRahman:
I'm reviewing the smaller Pixel 4. You'll see what the battery life is like in my review. Can't talk about it yet though.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
It's something I avoid doing. The constant micro vibrations and bumps from potholes in the road and engine vibes from 18 wheeler place the usb port under a lot of stress when the charging cable is plugged in.

In literally a couple of months you find it's elongated the usb port on the phone and then the charging cable is constantly falling out and you start getting problems trying to get decent connection to charge the phone..

Been there and got said t shirt...
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
What's the signal like where you are in the city ? Out on the road my phone is constantly searching for the next signal mast. That hammers the battery...
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
40-70% (right now -104 dbm 36 asu)

But I think the culprit is the WiFi (which is...5Ghz and "Good" signal strength in this hotel).

I charged phone to 90% enabled airplane mode + WiFi and was draining "screen off: 9%/hour" (with AOD off and location off).

Now I charged again to 90% and I'm trying WiFi OFF but Mobile On (LTE on) and it's draining: "screen off: 2%/hour". (According to accubattery). (Also AOD and location is off, so WiFi is completely off).

So I think there is some **** going on with the WiFi bands around. Could be a mix of both things, so not very good GSM signal as well. (If I'm at home I think it drains less than 1% per hour)

Edit: I'm back at home and here standby battery is awesome....Like 0.2.% per hour and with AoD...(2 Hours SoT, 9 hours standby and 62% left)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] sic0048:
Well the Pixel 4 does have wireless charging...... ;)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
No use unfortunately. Not found any that accept 24volt input and they all have a smooth surface, so the first roundabout I go round and the phones launched itself across the cab, either under my feet or into the passenger side..[emoji21]
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] justbfree:
how is the battery life so far?

Hi, How are you?

I'm about to buy a regular pixel 4 but i'm worried about the battery life. How is it going for you so far? I don't expect crazy SOT on phones but does it at least get 5 hours SOT ? Does it last the day normally?

I would appreciate your feedback :)
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] ptr_hamilton:
We have a first full review also testing the battery here. For me it'll be enough, there's always ways to further tune it.

https://www.tomsguide.com/reviews/pixel-4

and YouTuber

[youtube]904ko_ePvw8[/youtube]
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] palexr:
Worth noting this PCMag review which says the battery whilst small is fine for a day's use. Enough for me.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
Ok let's face it. battery sucks and probably won't be an upgrade over Pixel 2 (despite having more modern hardware). However, this paragraph is a good relief:

I learnt two things:

1) disabling 90Hz, doesn't change a lot... it has 6% impact? Anyway let's keep checking.

2) this could be fixed by Google polishing more Android standby battery consumption.

Actually my current Pixel 2 has a very good foreground battery life, what sometimes sucks is the background usage. It's been always a mess. Maybe Google will finally focus on real energy optimized android, because they need to maintain this phone for 3 years and battery can't go worse.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] frawstme:
While it's being discussed..whats up with the 45w AC adapter? Obviously im assuming that it charges faster than the 18w adapter, but how much faster? And why wouldn't that just be included with the phone that way?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] defconoi:
Good battery life will be further helped with custom kernel and some tweaking, In my experience pixel's run too hot and spike the cpu too often. Also the wifi scanning when out and about could be tweaked or disabled, I've seen this hit the battery hard on other devices. Anxious to get mine tomorrow and I'll run some tests.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
It's ok

Only my first full day and I disabled all smart gestures. Went ahead and forced 90hz screen as well.

It should improve a little after a couple days hopefully.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Is it the 4, or 4xl?
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] dubt17:
Download and setup the app "Nap Time"

it's super useful by putting your phone to sleep and in doze faster, this extends my battery by a good amount.

I also made a tasker profile to turn on battery saver mode when the screen is off and off when the screen turns on. This helps too, but AOD doesn't work with it...
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
It's the P4.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
I did my first overnight standby test. This is just replacing "Reach to check phone" with "Lift to check phone" (because I think I prefer this option)

But the motion sense with "show display when nearby" has been working all the night.

These are the results (which are similar to having AOD on the entire night):

- 62,% at 23;21

- 51% at 07:20 (ambient display total 2% and 1:32 usage)

As for the foreground battery life, so far looks good but let's see until I have drained it completely, I'm forcing 90Hz all the time.

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[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] johnny8910:
Thanks.

Was thinking of getting one, but was worried about screen on time.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] KHANrad_SIN:
I'm coming from a Pixel 2 XL as well and what I can say is, the battery life is meh. I'm getting around 4-5 hours screen on time, mostly closer to 4 hours. It almost feels like I'm getting similar battery life to my pixel 2 XL.......after 2 years of battery degradation lol. Although it's not that great I personally can live with it because I'm always topping it off in my car wherever I go. I'd also like to mention that I have the "force 90hz" option turned on in the developer options, as well as the radar motion gestures.

I know someone already suggested that you charge while you drive/work but you said the micro-vibrations loosen up the charging port over time and with a wireless charger the phone would go flying everywhere. But I would suggest a wireless charging phone mount, like this one or something similar, https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Aut...ss+charging+phone+mount&qid=1571900021&sr=8-3
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] skip24ftlb:
KHANrad_SIN

Thx for your reply back with regards to the wireless charging mount. It's an option I can research more into.

As for screen on time, it's clearly not an all day battery as Google claim from your results..

Now what worries me greatly is how many cycles the pixel batteries are good for.. if your constantly topping up thru out the day, it could quite easily mean your using 2 charging cycles a day..

That's really worrying. A small battery that's done maybe twice as many charging cycles in a year as the 2xl battery..

That points to maybe paying for a new battery before warranty is up and obviously loosing the ip68 waterproofing as well...

The p4 arrives today.. it's got 5 days to see if it manages what my 2 year old 2xl still does. If it doesn't then it is sadly going back..
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] hotpocketdeath:
So far, the battery life is far better than my Pixel 1. My P1 battery was not in good shape. Walking from my car to my office, I would be down to 96% from 100%. With the P4, I'm already an hour and half into my day and it still shows 100%.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] Exel:
Attached is my SOT for a full days use.

Not bad. I can live with it.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] bobby janow:
So a couple of questions I have now that the phone is out for delivery today. On my 3a I have AOD but flip the phone over during the night. In my pocket it goes off (I think). What is the difference with reach to check phone vs lift vs AOD? I used to leave the phone face up at night but it drained at least double the 0.5% / hr. it does with it face down. Do you use Better BS to monitor your usage and idle drain? In about 4 hours I'll know the answers to these questions but in the meantime I have nothing to do but wait since I took the day off.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] thesebastian:
So in my Pixel 2, AOD was the main standby battery drain thing (at home). By disabling it my overnight consumption was going really low, can't remember if less than 3-4% in 8 hours...but it was low (or maybe also, just putting the phone upside down, so the proximity sensor disables it, but I haven't tried this).

AOD was consuming like 10% in a full day (some days in a bright office) according to Android battery stats (so probably similar to your 0.5/h). [No I'm just using the android stock apps for battery check]

Now, in the Pixel 4, there is an option to prevent AOD from being ON while you are away. This is using "Motion Sense" and it's called "Show display when nearby" (which basically is "Show AOD when nearby"). I thought that this was going to prevent battery drain overnight, but Phone still seemed to drain 11% with this enabled (and with AOD only active for a few minutes at night, so AOD wasn't the issue this night).

The other option, also using Motion Sense is called "Reach to check phone" this basically adds a wallpaper to the AOD (and maybe shows notifications if you have some, I don't have right now) and if you look the phone in this state, it will be unlocked by face id.

This is an intermediate state between AOD ON and Lock Screen ON (because the brightness doesn't go up).

Then we have the old gesture we had in Pixel 2/3 (maybe 1?) "Lift to check phone", this turns on your lock screen completely. When that happens, the face unlock also works. (this option is not using Motion Sense).

One more, instead of "Double tapping". You can just one tap the phone to turn on the screen, it works really well and fast. This is not, by any means, a replacement to a potential "On screen-fingerprint" scanner. But you can have a similar experience....[Grab the phone --> 1 tap on the screen --> you screen will unlock once your face is seen] Maybe I'll try this later next month.
[Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers] radlink14:
I am averaging 30% per 1hr of SOT today. Was hoping at least for it to be 20% per hr.

Really ****! I miss the finger print reader a lot too.

Can't believe I'm considering sticking with the GP3. Usually I'm all about staying on top of the latest models.

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Not to sound negative but that's pretty typical when your phone shows 100%. If you restart it, it'll boot up showing the true percentage it's at.

Unless you had your phone in airplane mode for 1.5hrs, then even then it'll lose at least 1-2%.