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[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] CyberpodS2:
No, it's got to do with the dynamic partitions and mounting /system. From what I've read, even if you booted twrp it would no be functional.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] alecthenice:
I can only imagine the effects of this dynamic partition on other useful projects like microG...we have our work cut out for us here. I smell innovation!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] athosaramis:
I have dual sim phone - SIM1 personal with calls/data and SIM2 for work with calls/data. The phone forces me to define one of the two SIM cards as default for data (aka browse the web). The problem is that if I define SIM1 as default data card, if I receive or make a call from SIM1 I can browse the web using data during the call, but if I make or receive a call with SIM2, during the call I can't browse the web (because it is dual standby). In settings menu I tried to change the default data SIM card during the call to SIM2 to continue browsing the web during the call with SIM2, but the phone tells me that" Can't change the default data card during the call". The problem is the same if I define the default data card to SIM2, so during a call with SIM1 I can't browse the web. So, resuming, the annoying thing is that I have a dual SIM phone and I have 2 SIM card both with calls and data plan, the phone forces me to define one of them as default to data, but during a call with the SIM that is not defined as default data card I can't use the web. If at least I could change, in settings menu, the default data SIM during the call it will solve my problem but the phone doesn't allow me to do that during the call. This is ridiculous!! The only chance is, if I need to access the internet during the call, to say "I will shut down this call to swipe my default SIM card to access the internet so I can talk to you while I can browse the web and read the email that you are refering to and call you again", this all in 2019, simply ridiculous.

Anyone can help me? I tried in some phones of some of my friends and it always happens the same (I tried in Asus Zenfone 3, Samsung S9, Xiaomi Mi9T). Please if anyone can help me because this behaviour makes no sense and makes dual sim completely useless nowadays.
[Off-topic] bigboyhf:
New iphone??

Seems like 3G iphone is ready for delivery. I wonder if it has GPS as well. That could very well make it something to consider as an alternative to the Kaiser... I love my Kaiser, but my wife has an iphone and it does do certain things better. With Jailbreak, there are plenty of cool apps too. I even found a voice command app. Pretty much fill most of the gaps...
[Off-topic] bapssystupr3m3:
but it still doesnt have the hardware qwerty keyboard for me and i'm not a iphone fanboy...just me though
[Off-topic] djshmack:
I'll jump ship to the iphone if they update their browser to support flash. i'm still disappointed that after all this time (deepfish, opera 9.5 beta) their isnt a comparable browser out there for windows mobile. Opera mini is really good, but not as good as it could get
[Off-topic] redbandana:
Steve Jobs is going to have a press conference on monday 6/9 (which is today for some users). I hear that at&t were able to get him to commit to release the new iphone at $199.99 w/2 year contract.
[Off-topic] AllTheWay:
If that's true...I will certainly buy one for that price...for $200 you can't beat that.
[Off-topic] redbandana:
inside info suggest that the device will start below current two year contract price or significantly less I received information that the device would be between 199.99-299.99. We will see in about 12 hrs if Jobs mentions pricing.
[Off-topic] basilrsa:
Vodacom which has the largest user base in South Africa has been granted the distribution rights for the Iphone. Vodacom is 50% owned by Vodafone and 50% by Telkom, the local fixed line operator.

We will be getting the gereration 2 version, but apart from it's 3G capabilities we will have to wait for the announcement today. Shipping will apparently start immediately.

The only down side here is that we do not have a Itunes Store so we cannot use that side of it's functionality.
[Off-topic] MACkjam:
Howzit basilrsa,

Nice to know that there are other South Africans here!!!

I am not an iPhoney fan anyway, so I will wait for the TyTN III or the SE Xperia X1 maybe.

In the meantime my TyTN II ROCKS!!!

Again, good to meet you boet!!!

Regards,

MAC
[Off-topic] vcespon:
WWDC starts at 10 AM PDT, we will get the final specifications then but sites like engadget say:

- It will be 3G (a given, any phone is nowadays)

- But it will not have a front-facing camera for videoconferencing (it seems that it's not a known thing in USA, so if USA does not want it, Apple does not include it)

- It will have GPS receiver (nothing surprising, adding GPS to a phone is only $5)

- No hardware keyboard, typing with finger on a 2.8" screen does not convince me

- As always, closed system, very vendor-centric, very few applications you can run there.
[Off-topic] ChumleyEX:
I thought they moved to an open source setup.
[Off-topic] gsessons:
I know this is a dumb question, but I rather ask then not know at all. Will the 3G IPhone be able to flash the Window 6.1 instead of there OS. I ask because I don't know if it was a Hoax or if it was for real.......I saw a Iphone that had the WM6 on it. This was a while ago that I saw it............

edit:

I looked more closely, it's not only a hoax it is a fake Iphone...........I'm sorry for this waste of space I just used up..
[Off-topic] wshader:
3g Iphone....

So 199 out July 11th... think it will be unlocked by then? If so might need to try it out, even though I hate apple with a passion.
[Off-topic] NotATreoFan:
Just announced... 3G iPhone... For those who care, Engadget link.
[Off-topic] gman8966:
I'm thinking I'm going to try out that new iphone. If it sucks and I don't like it, I'm only out $200 and then I can most likely sell it on ebay for more than i paid...haha.
[Off-topic] grandpareza:
is it 200 with a new contract or without?
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
i'd suspcect with

as apple cant get their cut of each mb downloaded if iphone3gs are sold without a contract
[Off-topic] robosiris:
Personally I still cringe inside regarding the Iphone. My next phone will be either a X1, HTC Touch Diamond Pro, or the Nokia N96 (can't go wrong with an internal 16GB + SD slot for additional memory + accelatometer(sp?). Variety and change is always good though.
[Off-topic] laakness:
I'm sad that it still uses the same lame camera
[Off-topic] sherpa:
I kinda wanted an iPhone but only if it had GPS...the new one does....hmmmm....let's see!!!
[Off-topic] AllTheWay:
Also you can check out the official website.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/
[Off-topic] laakness:
It may come some day...but everyone forgets about when you aren't in such great cell coverage gmaps blows.

GPS is useless when all you see is a blue dot on a grey background...

TomTom/iGo/Garmin FTW :)
[Off-topic] sherpa:
The new version has built-in GPS receiver. It does not solely depend on cell towers or WiFi.
[Off-topic] Isaygarcia:
Still doesnt have a hardware keyboard :3.. my next phone will be the Touch Pro .! xD!

:)
[Off-topic] adavis99:
I very much "hated on" the original iphone. It was expensive, no 3rd party apps, and no 3G.

I'm not sure why i wouldn't like the new version...seems to be a very solid contender.
[Off-topic] Bratag:
Price point makes the Iphone pretty much the best option out in my opinion. I like my kaiser - but anyone who saw the announcement of the new 3g ver of the phone can see that at least apple have provided graphics drivers for THEIR phone.

299 Bucks for 16GB is not bad. Yes the n96 is a great phone (or will be) but its going to be at LEAST 1000 bucks US.
[Off-topic] KD8DNS:
Still uses the cell towers to d/l the maps as you move
[Off-topic] sherpa:
You mean data??? Well, with the introduction of the built-in hardware, I'm pretty sure 3rd party vendors will jump in, especially since Apple announced their SDK to the rest of the world.
[Off-topic] Alemaker:
I woulda jumped ship -it needed 3 things:

1) 3G-:)

2) GPS-:)

3) AD2P-NOT :mad:

Stickin with my Tilt and 8 GB microSD
[Off-topic] sebbes:
Having Tomtom on the iphone 3G would be cool... But as they went away from the PDA market, I wouldnt bet on this.
[Off-topic] robosiris:
No the N96 will be more like 800 dollars, which isn't a far cry from the 750 dollars I paid for my Kaiser. Plus, the N96 (to me) is and capable of doing much more than an Iphone. just my two cents
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Ok, I am not an iPhone fan, but I will have to chime in on this.

What can N96 do that iPhone can't? After I did my math, I know I could afford an iphone or more.

anyway, this GPS on board iPhone is getting a buzz.
[Off-topic] chamelion:
i have to say, i've been anti-apple for years now and 100% pro HTC, absolutely love my tytn.

but i have to say after watching the announcement and seeing features of the iphone, there's no doubt i'm jumping ship in a month. never thought i'd be saying that but wow, have you guys taken a look at the features?

i'll miss the full keyboard for sure. but i won't miss the instability for sure...

i'm glad i didn't upgrade to the tytnII, i'd be stuck on the contract for god knows how much longer!!

what are your guys' view on this?
[Off-topic] EskimoPie:
Well engadget is now reporting that TomTom is saying they have a version up and running on the new iPhone allready. They won't commit to a release date yet, but TomTom on an iPhone would be pretty sweet I think.

And what makes you say they went away from the PDA market anyway? They released version 6 not too long ago and are still updating the PDA maps...
[Off-topic] robosiris:
um, it holds more memory (16 gigs of internal mem + a sd slot), and tv out, quad band, more 3rd party apps, just to name a few. Plus, you can't go wrong with the video recording/playing capabilities, a 5 meg pixel camera and overall media player either. Like I said, this (for me) would make me choose a N96 over an iphone.
[Off-topic] jlor:
I'm considering it.. It's cheap. Sadly it's bound to a provider, so I'll have to wait for someone to figure out how to unlock it, and then I have to figure out how to get one for the cheap price and not pay a monthly fee to the provider..

But what I _really_ like about the phone is that it's running a variant of *nix. I know that system fairly well from work, university and spare time activities..

I suppose I could do the exact same thing with a WinMo device (currently have a Kaiser), but I don't really have the skill of some of our wonderful cooks.

But yea, I'll have to see some reviews. Hopefully the GPS/3G iPhone will still be able to play a decent x264 video and do so for a full-feature movie.
[Off-topic] NotATreoFan:
The official site hadn't been updated yet as of my posting.

I'm considering the new iPhone myself, but I have a few reservations:

A) No tethering

B) Unlimited data plan is more that PDA Max

C) No corporate discount on rate plans (I get a 27% discount through my company now)
[Off-topic] laakness:
Yeah, the data plan price is going to get a few people.

Also, the whole TT thing...you know being the first to market with an offline gps program they can charge a ton. I dont use my gps a whole lot in awesome 3g coverage areas, more like ****ty cell don't know where u are areas ;)
[Off-topic] supertenma:
I am already in the process of selling my AT&T Tilt on ebay... Just a question since I have never bought an iPhone before..

Can I buy the iPhone at the apple store (or online) and walk out with the phone without signing any AT&T contracts?
[Off-topic] NotATreoFan:
The current model can be bought from Apple stores without a contract, but if you go to an AT&T store, they make you sign a 2 year deal. Hopefully this holds true for the 3G model.
[Off-topic] robosiris:
You should be able to purchase an Iphone from the Apple store and an authorized AT&T dealer without signing up for a 2-year contract. But be warned that since you're not looking to sign a 2-year contract, you'll be paying perhaps twice more than getting it with a contract.

The data plan for the 3G Iphone, I read somewhere perhaps engadgetmobile.com, is going to 30 dollars, which won't include text/mms messaging. Ouch!!
[Off-topic] AllTheWay:
a.) you can do all the tethering you need via a exchange server. Unless you mean transferring data to your phone other than contacts, e-mail, task. The new iphone works with exchange servers.

b.) I have unlimited data plan as it stands right now. I didn't know you could have a PDA Max plan w/ the Tilt.

c.) Wow! That is a nice discount. A friend of mine had to get the Tilt other than the iphone for this same reason.
[Off-topic] Imsaffor:
So far there hasn't been any menttion of being able to buy it anywhere but directly from ATT and only with a new contract. At least thats the way engadget makes it seem. Its almost like you can't get one without signing a contract.
[Off-topic] AllTheWay:
Mike I will also do this to the iphone thread in the Kaiser section. Don't want to go against protocol :D
[Off-topic] laakness:
I think he means tethering with Internet Sharing.
[Off-topic] hambola:
Where did you get 2.8" from? It actually has a 3.5" screen.
[Off-topic] robosiris:
It's an AT&T and Apple conspiracy, lol. I suppose that's why an unlocked Iphone is called 'Jail-breakin''. I'm not even sure if that's the correct term, but I am sure that term only applies to Iphones. How funny.

A week or two after the 3G Phone is officially released, opportunists will 'Jail-break"'those beauties and sell them on Ebay for a nice chunk of change.
[Off-topic] gwnorth:
There are posts over at HoFo saying that the new iPhone will require instore activation at time of purchase - whether from an AT&T store or an Apple store.

Don't know if it's true or not, but that is the buzz.
[Off-topic] mchapman007:
Count me out.....

HTC issues are not, No iPhoney in this household!
[Off-topic] galaxys:
No Way! This thread is a waste of

space

like the iphone fad...
[Off-topic] gregxdoom:
I was thinking about selling the tilt to get one of these, but the killing point for me was no internet sharing, and they STILL haven't included MMS messages.
[Off-topic] redbandana:
amazing my people are always correct
[Off-topic] JimmyMcGee:
TomTom Has iPhone GPS software ready to go. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSB46553120080609
[Off-topic] raidzx:
100% agree. I refuse to be an iDroid!
[Off-topic] Jonathan1683:
I am glad they are charging only 199. I will still skip this version because it still lacks certain features. HTC will have to start lowering their prices now. They are ripping us off anyways and losing customers over their video issues. Their customers are losing their loyalty and it serves them right. GJ apple
[Off-topic] gogol:
To be honest, this new iPhone 3G + GPS is very good to my personal opinion.

Well, it does not have hardware keyboard, but I rarely use it though in my Kaiser (only for sms / chatting). And for sure I will get used to it.

However, I dont like Apple, I dont have one, and I dont like the OS. I have never own one, all my life is doing something with Windows and Unix/Linux.

It could be fun to learn something new though :)

But I like how we can customize and hack WinMo :P

Anyway, I hope there will be 3.5" VGA with Windows Mobile 7 coming soon asap! 3G and GPS are now standard ...
[Off-topic] slovoflud:
well... i've never liked apple software/hardware. but this one... i don't know, i kinda like it.
[Off-topic] Marsbar:
I tried the iphone after everyone told me how great the soft keyboard was. It sucks. Talk about a bad design: if you mistype (which you will, unless you have fingers shaped like needles) it offers you "possible" options, which is great, except that the "possibles" appear in the text box, nowhere near the keyboard, so you have to move your hand up to the main part of the screen, select the choice you want (which again is difficult enough for anyone with normal fingers) and then move back to carry on stabbing at the "keys".

I'll stick with my real keyboard, thanks.
[Off-topic] NotATreoFan:
I did mean tethering for the purpose of internet sharing. Of course I'm sure someone will eventually write and app to allow it over the iPhone.

When I first ordered my Tilt, I had the PDA Connect Unlimited for $44.99 and 200 SMS/MMS for $9.99. But when I went into an AT&T store to buy an A2DP headset for upcoming travel, the guy behind the counter said that I was overpaying for my plan options, and set me up with PDA Max Unlimited for $39.99.

Since I ordered my Tilt on release day, I only got $50 off ($249), but AT&T applies my 27% discount every month like clockwork. It works out to cancel out all my taxes on the monthly plan, plus a dollar or two more. Unfortunately iPhone plans are not eligible for service discounts.
[Off-topic] vcespon:
Videoconferencing for example? :D

Soooo, the iPhone has got 3G and GPS, oooooooh, what a novelty, I had never seen a phone with 3G :D.

Soooo, $200 is with a contract, how much is it untied to a phone operator?

Soooo, 2 MP camera, no autofocus. Humm, I think I know phones with better camera.

Soooo, is there a library of tens of thousands of programs for that OS that you can download and install clicking a cab without having to hack the OS?

Soooo, Can you flash another ROM if you find one better?

Soooo, Does it run Skype?

Soooo, What GPS mapping software runs there? Google maps is not good for everyone, some people does not have infinite MB free to download maps on the go.

Soooo, Can you open PDF, DOC, XLS, PPT, CHM files there? Some people use the device to handle information, not just to download music from iTunes

Soooo, no Internet sharing? Are you telling me that I cannot connect my laptop though the phone?

Soooo, no MMS? Hell people, the World is much more than Cuppertino, California. The fact that people on USA did not use SMS until very recently, and are unaware of the existence of MMS and videocall, does not mean that the rest of the World is in the stone age too.
[Off-topic] MACkjam:
Who Tf Cares......

This is the Kaiser forum.

Go post this on the iPhoney forum.

The iPhoney is practically useless in South Africa (or anywhere else for that matter).
[Off-topic] Mikulec:
ding, ding. Round 1 for vcespon. ;)
[Off-topic] jallenclark:
Soooo, the iPhone has got 3G and GPS, oooooooh, what a novelty, I had never seen a phone with 3G :D. True

Soooo, $200 is with a contract, how much is it untied to a phone operator? I don't know if you can do that yet, they are saying you have to get a 2 year or no dice.

Soooo, 2 MP camera, no autofocus. Humm, I think I know phones with better camera. I have used the iPhones 2 mp and it works much better than the Tilts camera (yes I have the camera fix installed)

Soooo, is there a library of tens of thousands of programs for that OS that you can download and install clicking a cab without having to hack the OS? It is growing, it is not as large yet but there are a lot of people working on it.

Soooo, Can you flash another ROM if you find one better? Not yet, the hackers have to get the phone before they can jailbreak it.

Soooo, Does it run Skype? There is a VOIP program, can't remember the name.

Soooo, What GPS mapping software runs there? Google maps is not good for everyone, some people does not have infinite MB free to download maps on the go. TomTom is releasing an app for iPhone.

Soooo, Can you open PDF, DOC, XLS, PPT, CHM files there? Some people use the device to handle information, not just to download music from iTunes I don't know about CHM but they announced it can handle all of the others you listed.

Soooo, no Internet sharing? Are you telling me that I cannot connect my laptop though the phone? Someone will write an app to do this soon enough.

Soooo, no MMS? Hell people, the World is much more than Cuppertino, California. The fact that people on USA did not use SMS until very recently, and are unaware of the existence of MMS and videocall, does not mean that the rest of the World is in the stone age too. I don't think they said no MMS anywhere. How many video calls do you truly make?
[Off-topic] guciodog:
jallenclark- everything you posted about the iphone's features MIGHT come soon. were talking about what it might have NOW, not if the future...:)
[Off-topic] vcespon:
Sooo. It lacks hardware that other phones have had for years, and the other features depend on software that does not exist yet.

Sorry, but I prefer a device that actually works, even if I don't currently use a feature (like videocalling, because it's very expensive here), does not mean that it should come out to the market lacking things that any $50 Nokia has.

It's as if Microsoft realeased Vista without support for OpenGL because Microsoft uses DirectX. For a device that's going to be sold world-wide I see it too America-centered. (I'm sure Google maps and search features cannot find a thing on my country, nor provide traffic status outside places like LA, so all that preloaded software is useless)
[Off-topic] slovoflud:
yes, those are the minuses. (well... some of them..) but if you compare it to the number of Kaiser problems (I of course mean mainly the OS), these feel like a couple compared to the ocean.
[Off-topic] jallenclark:
Your post was not very clear, let me see if I can decifer what you meant.

I think you meant "We are talking about what the iPhone currently has, not what it might have in the future."

I don't agree. It think it will have everything I said in the future it is just a matter of time, purely my opinion though.
[Off-topic] laakness:
I'm sure some one will write a tethering app...but do you think ATT will let Apple sell it on iTunes????

We technically aren't supposed to tether without the $59 full pda tethering plan but if you don't do it often it's not a big deal.

ATT would throw a **** fit if iPhones were tethering and not paying more for it if the PDA users have to now.
[Off-topic] ChumleyEX:
I actually think the iphone might very well be the platform for mobile devices in the future. The big problem is that windows mobile is made to work on hundreds of phones while the iphone software is taylor made. The Iphone is actually very impressive for a first gen device, and then within a year they make a noticable improvement. HTC should make their own OS considering the amount of phones they have.
[Off-topic] robosiris:
Oh god, not another debate about the Iphone on a Window Mobile forum. But I have to chime in on this one. From my point of view, we're talking about what the 3G Iphone can't/can do VS a WinMo phone in present terms. Hell, the Kaiser has it's fair share of problems, many of them involving drivers, OS, etc.

But I do have to admit the Iphone looks tempting and can see why some many people are fascinated with it. Plus the Iphone can make you more attractive, lol. I have to hand it to Apple though, they are marketing genuises compared to MS, lol. I have friends calling and asking me if I seen or heard about the "New" Iphone, lol. Of course I say no, and allow them to share their joy with me -- without really letting them know that I know more than they do about the "NEW" Iphone, lol. Life is grand.
[Off-topic] curtosrules:
I am jealous, my company only gives a me a 15% discount. it does help on the taxes
[Off-topic] adoborunner:
so there will be no MMS on the new Iphone?
[Off-topic] XtreMe_G:
damn you, mine only gives 12%
[Off-topic] robosiris:
nope .. shame.
[Off-topic] johnknoesel:
getting replacement Tilt

after so many updates, changes etc.. ATT finally decided the problem I having is not the radio version but with the radio hardware itself. They are sending me a replacment. If that does not work then I think I will finally just completely abandon HTC and go back to a voice only phone and pda because this is completely ridiculous. How can a company like ATT sell a "PDA Phone" that will not let you run hands free so you can talk and work at the same time. I use this for business and not entertainment. This just fng sux and I cannot take it anymore.:(
[Off-topic] ChumleyEX:
What does that have to do with the Iphone 3g