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[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] SinisterXReaper:
Every phone I've pre-ordered, it always starts the same way. Everyone has something to complain about before they even have the phone in their own hands. After awhile, the complaining, for the most part, dies down, and people realize they love the device. What boggles my mind is, why come to the forum to complain? Nobody forces an individual to buy the phone, let alone pre-order it. Instead of focusing on the negative, focus on the positives.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] btonetbone:
Absolutely this. It's pretty darn clear that some people in the crowd are trying to spike the punch. Don't obsess over the minutiae, don't allow yourself to be herded just because it seems like sentiment is tilted one way. Figure out what you want out of a phone (is an ultra-wide camera REALLY make/break for you, or are you only thinking that because XYZ said to?). Put your hands on the device by visiting a Best Buy or carrier store. And lastly, recognize that software learns your habits (battery life after a few days won't tell you what long-term battery life means) and also gets updated (features get added, functionality becomes improved).

Be aware of the echo chamber effect and do your best to make up your own mind about the worthiness of a phone.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] bitwiser:
For one it is a dominant iPhone (iSheep) crowd out there. Second, people are just polarized to a brand. They either hate it or love it and are very biased. Even our news anchors are biased, we live in a biased world...sad but true. You just have to do as people here have wisely suggested. Make a list as to your important items and get a phone that excels at those. NONE will check all the boxes perfectly. I love the pixel series and have owned just about every android phone out there (even an iphone) and I always seem to come back to Pixel. I've had them all. I traded my 3XL for a Note 10 and getting a 4XL Wed because I miss my pixel. Again, not good/bad/right/wrong. Just my preference. It does not have to be yours or any reviewers opinions since it is about what makes me happy :D
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
How many of these big YouTube stars secretly love iPhones but keep that off camera and don't let their fans know?

I'm afraid to think a lot of them might be iPhone users but come off as Android fans but they're doing it just for the clicks and cash grab. except there are true no secret iSheep like iJustine, that's different, we all know she's a iPhone but.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
I went to see pixel 4 XL today. And must say I really liked it. My 2 biggest gripes is battery worries and 64gb of storage. I don't game or anything and tend to keep photos on the cloud but seems annoying that they couldn't give us 128 as a base model .

I have the OnePlus 7 pro now
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w69l4WsQtH0

Battery life isn't as bad as people are saying. Reviewers saying the phone easily gets 5.5h to 6h SoT, which isn't outstanding like iPhone 11 Pro Max battery, but it's certainly terrible by any means. My guess is the Pixel 4 XL will get slightly better battery life than the 3 XL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Reuben_skelz92:
Yeah the OnePlus 7 pro doesn't have incredible battery. I can live around the same
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
So true. If I had to pick one complaint on release from each prior Pixel it would be the following:

Pixel 1 - price jump compared to the prior Nexus 5X and 6P

Pixel 2 - XL blue shift. It was pretty bad though but I got over it

Pixel 3 - Notch

What happened "after the buzz"? Best still photos and best Android experience. Those two are my top priorities so I'm good with my Pixel 4 XL pre-order.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] DinarQ8:
iPhone Pro Max have 4 GB Ram and no problem so 6GB good

The camera is great

The speaker like almost phones top and bottom

The battery is enough

Just i wish make the bezels like Samsung without soli but its ok i can life with it

Unlimited storage it's ok i have until 2021/1/15
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
If done right, the speakers can sound really amazing too. My wife's S9+ is noticably richer and louder than my Pixel 2 XL. But that does has a Dolby Atmos option.

If that's unlimited storage date is with your previous Pixel, I believe it's only for that phone but I could be wrong. I'm going to just start using my Google One 100 GB space.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] mr.marcus:
Pixel will always be a less spec-out device compared to the other Android flagships. Only reason I have a pixel 4 on order is because I'm coming from a 2XL so it's definitely worth a upgrade to me. I've never been a Samsung fan, 1+ doesn't work because I'm on Verizon + don't like their camera. Price definitely TGDH
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] MicroMod777:
I started seeing alot of bad reviews also on the Pixel 4 on youtube. Biggest gripes I saw was battery life and no wide angle camera.

I guess the smaller Pixel 4 only gets like 4 hour battery life. they say getting sucked out by the radar detector. Thankfully I ordered the bigger XL that will get me a few more hours.

I will miss not having wide angle camera which I have used alot on my LG V30. But if I can root and put a custom rom on it, it will all be worth it!!! :good:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] GohanBurner:
I'm tapping the living sh!t out of the back of my Pixel 4 XL right now trying to get used to the fact that there isn't a fingerprint sensor. I'm more than likely going to return this thing. This 128GB 4 XL is NOT worth $1,049.95. Even selling my Pixel 3 XL and that $100 accessory credit aren't worth it IMHO.

The biggest thing for me is that they aren't using the 855+ and UFS 3.0 and are still using 2.1 which the 3XL has. I want to love this thing, but I'm going to have to pass.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Starting with the OnePlus 7 they actually do work on Verizon and Sprint now. I thought about it for a second but camera takes priority for me.

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How many hour have you had? Can't you give it at least the amount of time before the return period ends? Sounds premature to dismiss it.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] btonetbone:
I don't think any current flagship has a fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone. You'll need to retrain yourself to unlock a new way no matter what, so it's odd that you are holding this against the Pixel.

And eventually, there will be a Snapdragon 865 and an 875. What apps are you using that push the 855 so hard that it doesn't hold up? Or is it just a FOMO of the incremental increase available from the 855+ refresh?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
Quick impressions, the display seems sharper, and prettier, and looks higher quality, and just better than my Pixel 3 XL's. This screen seems brighter than my 3 XL, I know it's no iPhone 11 pro or Galaxy S10 bright, but sure seems bright next to my 3 XL. Also scrolling around websites, and the Settings menu, etc...really does feel smooth as butter.

Face unlock is cooler than I expected, just so natural and FAST. Pick up the phone and almost before you look at it, your in your homescreen immediately.

Haptics feel a little punchier, heavier, like a improvement in the vibration engine.

I like that the 4 XL is narrower in width, feels easier to use and hold than my 3 XL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] WoZzYDoesitbest:
Myen will be here Thursday afternoon, sometimes you just have to drown out the noise
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Jammol:
As much as I agree with you, and my opinion and agreeing with people doesn't mean squat; but you stating and asking these questions is like asking why would someone want cleaner water that's available to everyone else even though there's even more cleaning water coming in the future. The water you get offered right now is just "good enough."

Okay maybe that is completely unrelated, but other manufacturers are offering WAY MORE for LESS money than what Google is doing with the Pixel 4. So, with that why would you ask the questions you are? Would you rather buy a more expensive luxury car instead of a cheaper car with more features? And this is also a somewhat crappy comparison, but you should get the point for sure. And as far as the cheaper car analogy, Google IS DEFINITELY not the best when it comes to quality. Heck, the device isn't fully out yet but there's already a security concern when it comes to the face unlock and that's NOT good at all. No more Thot protection!!! Not that I participate in those activities.:p

Edit: Not to mention, the price for the smaller device compared to the competition. For real? That doesn't feel weird to you that they are charging so much for something that offers way less(in some cases) than some of the competition?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] btonetbone:
I was asking because there's no discernible difference in day-to-day use between a Snapdragon 855 and an 855+. There's a very minor difference in benchmarking, but nothing that would ever be noticed by a user. Chrome, Reddit, even games will run amazingly well in both. So to poo-poo a phone for having one and not the other—while ignoring that Google has the ability to do better software/firmware integration between Android and the phone's hardware—seems like a fool's errand. Everyone is certainly welcome to have an opinion, though, and if a little "plus" sign at the end of a single component in the phone is a make-or-break, then that's fine! For me, it's more about how the phone actually works instead of a single specification.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] sic0048:
Why is everyone crapping on the 4 and 4 XL? It all comes down to one thing.... the price.

Every phone has some positives and negatives. But when a phone has this many compromises, yet is priced as one of the most expensive phones out there (for comparable specs to other phones), you are going to get crapped on. If the retail price for the 4 was $599 and the 4xl $699, there wouldn't be as many complaints. People can live with compromises if the device is priced accordingly. It's also one reason why the complaints about the 3 and 3XL died out so quickly last year - because the price was discounted to what the phone was actually worth pretty quickly after release.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] replica9000:
4th generation of this phone, and still only 128GB of storage. I was expecting to see a 256GB option by now. At least Google finally increased the RAM. 6GB isn't bad, but for the price, should have at least 8GB.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] ZeroKool76:
"for the price". Man, that's getting tiring to hear. Firstly, you're not JUST paying for hardware. So naturally comparing one device to another would leave the pixel wanting. You are paying for software as well. Which, even if they do have a track record of stumbling out of the gate, their overall software experience is waaaaay ahead of any other android OEM. And when you start comparing it to the 3XL and ask why the price is so steep, I can think of 5 new features, both HW and SW based, that have come to the 4XL. So, it's already ahead of the 3XL from every angle, yet people still somehow expect it to be cheaper. Coming from multiple top of the line OP devices, I can assure you the grass is not greener on the other side. For all of the Pixel's faults, I see it offering me a much more pleasant user experience than any other OEM. THAT is what I paid for. And nothing for nothing, we have known most of this for a loooong time, so why are people still *****ing? Google gives ? f*cks about what we think, they don't have to. They build what they feel is a worthwhile device and this time I would have to agree. I have already thought of numerous scenarios this device will have made my life easier. An experience no amount of storage or ram could give me. And the battery isn't turning out to be too bad either, depending on your usage. But that's with any device
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] SinisterXReaper:
People will always have something to complain about. I will admit, it does get annoying coming on the forums just to see individuals finding something to complain about. It boggles my mind. Nobody forced the individual to buy the phone, let alone pre-order it. I myself absolutely love the pixel phones (I've been a power user for many phones, for many years) and have no desire to switch to any other phone.. I'm also a huge IT nerd, with the education and experience to understand the HW/SW choices.

Another thing I like to keep in mind... This is a developer forum. It's still fresh in my mind where custom ROMs were huge, and practically needed to get many features that are stock Android now!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Zorachus:
The forehead doesn't bother me like I was worried, I'll take this over the notch.

Google Assistant is so flipping fast and INSTANT on this phone. I was surprised by that, it's like there immediately when you need it.

Let's just see how battery life is? My 3 XL had ok battery life, but I learned to live with it. As long as this 4 XL is at least equal and hopefully better I'm fine.

The Pixel 3 XL had the SD845 and a 3,450mAh battery, and the Pixel 4 XL has the more efficient SD855 with a 3,700mAh battery, so on paper the 4 XL should last longer, but all the reviews have shat all over this phone, you'd think it only gets 2h SoT.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] bitwiser:
And you ordered it..why???? I know there is no one on the planet that did not know there was NO fingerprint censor...you also knew the storage size....so why order it??? or did you just want to complain here???
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] GohanBurner:
Simply thought I could get used to it, but I can't. Ordered it to try it, basically. If I liked it I would keep it but this thing just blows compared to the Pixel 3 XL. Most gimmicky phone on the planet. I'd rather deal with the notch. I find that apps are closing themselves just as much as on the 3 XL too so I guess the extra 2GB isn't helping that much.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] dyoung33:
I am absolutely loving my 4XL coming from the 3XL. The speakers are improved, the face unlock is lightening quick. I am also a little surprised how great the motion sense works advancing songs on GPM. I skipped through 30 songs without it missing once. Haven't taken any pics yet, and still setting it up, but it looks and feels great. No worries or complaints here.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Jammol:
Wait, are so many of you really that ignorant that you are justifying the price of this device COMPARED to the competition? For real people? You type on here that you're not just paying for hardware? No sh!t?! You're not just paying for hardware no matter what phone you buy fam. Stop being blind and stop defending an over priced device!

And before anyone thinks I'm upset at Google, I'm not. All businesses are in the business of making money. I'm upset at the people that are going to continue to justify increased prices for LESS tech. It's time we stop doing that as consumers, rich, middle class or dead broke. Stop defending companies charging crazy high prices for tech that others companies are exceeding already for way less money.

And yeah, my signature says I'm rocking a Note 9. At least I got my money's worth from this device that actually HAS tech that no other companies are exceeding and offering for a lower price.

All businesses are in the business of making money! ??
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] GohanBurner:
Yeah, but, assuming you have a 128GB model, is $1,045.95 worth of improvement over the P3XL?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] dyoung33:
I do have the 128GB model, and yes it is worth the additional cost to me. I wanted a 90hz display, but would have gotten it for just the improved Google Assistant features. I do update every year, because I want the newest model available. They are never perfect, but they are perfect for me.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] ZeroKool76:
I'm sorry, I stopped reading when you mention the comment about higher prices with less tech. That's laughable, at the very least. The fact that this is the only Android device that has facial ID, and a radar built into it (gimmicky or not, that's personal preference)blew your whole argument out of the water. And if you consider ram and storage, tech, then you might wanna re edit your comments, cuz you're just coming off as a raving lunatic with no valid points. Nobody is twisting anybody's arm to buy the device. Everyone knows what the device has to offer, so we must have found something about it that appeals more than any of the other dozens of devices that offer nothing but a heavy spec sheet. I hate to inform you, but specs aren't everything. So, you're not saying we are ignorant, because that would insinuate that we don't know any better. When in fact, the opposite is true, we know exactly what we're doing. Instead, you'd prefer to push your narrative on us and call anyone that doesn't agree, stupid(essentially). And for the record, it obviously doesn't sound like you're planning on buying the device, unless you just feel like *****ing about it. So, why are you here again?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] btonetbone:
Pssst....if someone says that they "can't get used to it" about a phone that technically hasn't even gone on sale yet, they are possibly not on the level. Likely, they either tried it for a moment and didn't WANT to learn gesture navigation, or they never got the phone in the first place.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] Jammol:
1. Facial ID is just another form of device security. Yay, fantastic it's awesome. Fingerprint was taken away.

2. Consider ram and storage of what? Have you seen other devices? I wouldn't be using ram and storage in an arguement as it was on the previous device exactly the same.

3. Not twisting anyone's arm either. Just want people to wake up. You're just inflating the market and the idea that these devices should cost so much.

4. Of course we all know what the device has to offer. The issue is the blind justifications for the price tag. We aren't Apple diehards here.

5. Really specs aren't everything? Of course specs aren't everything. I'm most definitely the person to know that. You're still missing the point which is why I said you are ignorant if you justify the price. (Not shouting here) OTHER COMPANIES ARE OFFERING MORE FOR LESS MONEY.

6. I don't think any of you are stupid. I think the ones justifying the price are ignorant. Not to the specs. To the fact that you're willing to blindly justify the price of a device that is built with lesser specs than others that are priced cheaper with the same software and features with the exception of the Radar.

7. Ignorant and Stupid mean completely different things. If I wanted to say Stupid, I would have.??

Please stop buying expensive devices that are not worth it. It'll save you money, and it'll also keep the market from being inflated for no reason!!!?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] replica9000:
I had a Pixel XL. It was a nice phone. 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM wasn't bad then. After it died, I bought a P3XL. $800 after black Friday rebate. But still, 3rd generation and still same ram/storage. I found myself constantly deleting things to make room, plus I occasionally had low memory issues on the PXL, and didn't want a repeat of that. I also bought the OP6T 256/8 for $630. Played with both phones for over a week. I ended up returning the P3XL. So now we're on 4th generation Pixel. Still same storage, but at least a little more ram. $1000 for a P4XL still seems a bit high compared to other brands with similar hardware, and even for small upgrades over previous generations. They're also not offering unlimited cloud storage this time around.

My OP6T is a year old now, and has 50% more ram, and 100% more storage for nearly 40% less cost. OOS is like stock android with minor enhancements. I get updates often as well. So the stock android vs OOS user experience isn't far off. For me, I did find the grass greener on the other side. I'm sure cost aside, the P4XL is a great phone. I just feel I got more for my money elsewhere.

If I wanted to buy an overpriced phone from a company who doesn't give a s#!t about it's customers, I'd buy an iPhone.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] jimv1983:
1. Did you really expect the price to be similar to the Pixel 3a?

2. Agreed. No fingerprint sensor does suck. They should have kept the back fingerprint sensor but even an in screen ultra sonic sensor would have been ok.

3. The Pixel 4 really should have had all three kinds of camera but if it only has two I think Google made the correct choice. The telephoto is a bigger help to the computational photography. Also, I personally find myself wishing I could get a closer shot more than a wider shot.

4. Yes. The battery on both the Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL is WAY too small. The Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL should have 3200mAh and 4200mAh at a MINIMUM. Ideally like 3500mAh and 4500mAh.

5. I hardly every use the front facing cameras anyways. I probably wouldn't miss it at all if they removed it.

6. Dual front facing speakers are nice I guess but I hardly ever use the phone speakers anyways.

7. Even without the radar sensor I'm glad it has a "big" bezel (it really isn't that big). The alternative is a notch or hole punch and no way will I buy a phone with that. Obstructed content = NOPE!!!!

8. Motion Sense is kind of gimmicky at the moment but the technology has so much potential. I look forward to seeing what Google does with it in the future.

9. You can still upload unlimited if you let it reduce from original quality to "high" quality and Google does an EXCELLENT job and compressing to "high" quality. At regular size I can't tell the difference at all and even zoomed in it's impossible to tell on most shots and only a VERY minor difference when you can tell. Take a look here: https://brandonjacobs.design/blog-p...lity-vs-original-quality-google-photos-backup

10. Camera is great already and the software improves it even more.

11. Who cares if it was a surprised on the announcement day.

12. 6GB RAM is plenty for a Pixel phone. More RAM means more battery drain. I don't think the benefit of more than 6GB RAM would make up for the battery difference.

13. The SD 855+ is just a SD 855 overclocked from 2.84 Ghz to 2.96 Ghz. The performance increase of the 855+ over the 855 is minimal and wouldn't even be noticeable with anything other than benchmark tests. So little improvement for a chip that will use more power and get hotter. I'm actually GLAD Google didn't use the SD 855+. https://liliputing.com/2019/07/qual...s-an-overclocked-sd855-for-gaming-phones.html

The only ones that really bother me are #4 and to a lesser extent, #2.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers] ZeroKool76:
Well, this is where we definitely differ, LOL. Because I own the exact same device as you do, running OOS, and it is utter trash. Which is why I don't mind spending a couple hundred dollars more to get a better operating system. But, we all have our own opinions. Hopefully everyone who purchased one will be happy, that's the bottom line