[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Tetsujin_100:
I agree with you completely. I probably did things with my Note 4 most users didn't with their Note 5,7,8,9. A power user is not really about the device as much as how hard the user pushes their device feature-wise and if a more restrictive device would be holding you back from what you want to do. Pocket linux computer with phone capabilities vs phone with extra features.

Its ok to not be a "power user". Its not a prestigious club you get points for being in, only a statement about device usage. This individual may be suffering from something whose symptoms include acute whoosh.

Actually you implied that somehow a rooted and modified note 4 would not be up to some kind of task you seem to think people regularly perform today. If so please let me know what "productivity" features those "business-type" users are involved in so I can add this info to my decision. Most of the "business-type" people I know seem to still not performing certain tasks I was able to with my customized N4 with their latest flagship devices while I could do most everything they could do. ::shrug::

Hey, I also have an overclocked i7 2600k@4.7GHz in one of my rigs at home, can you let me know if it is deficient also. Personally it only seems to only have any issues in the most CPU intensive situations like gaming and video editing/transcoding, but since its old I could be wrong about its capabilities as well.

I wouldn't have even thought that was still a thing. I had forgotten about it since I removed it from my N4 almost immediately after I rooted it with an Xposed addon and its removed in custom roms. One less thing I have to worry about modifying, since I don't want my device nagging me.

I was looking into the "night mode" mods and overlays and trying to figure out how stable they are. People seem to say the 3rd party mods run in a much more stable manner with root access. I used "Easy Eyes" on my N4 and "f.lux" on my PC so its good to hear the automated switching has been ironed out on the in-house implementations.

Hmm, im not sure if this is a positive or a negative?

Good to know. That sounds like it would be somewhat annoying.

Would you say most of the apps you use are capable of split screen of floating window functionality? Before, a lot of devs didnt enable it to function properly for their apps if at all.

With the amount of RAM and internal flash memory on these things im not surprised. That remind me that I still have to look into the hardware implementation and specs of the internal NAND.

This is a very helpful niche piece of information. I may have to use that application for work depending on how things go in the next few months. I do personally not like IT fiddling with my phone however to get clearance for corporate use. Im not sure it would even qualify for it depending on how far I would end up messing with is ROM.

Thanks a lot for your input!

EDIT: New responses, and dont want to double post.

Yea, the N4 has a special place for me as an absolute champ of phones in its day. I didnt have the echo issue with my N4, but I used my bluetooth headset a lot. I had the T-Mobile version, which one were you using?

I have been looking at the Exynos version, but it comes down to which hardware version will developers support in the long run. I have to go through all my apps and check comparability with the new phones ecosystem and possible restrictions.

I would be using T-Mobile and the loss of those bands may or may not that big a deal to me. I am more concerned with long term development for each hardware version. I was looking into the frequency issue with Exynos models, but havent tracked down verifiable data how on TMo's infrastructure in my area will affect cell performance yet. Roadtrips and camping are a reality for me so having wider coverage would be nice.

I want to end up with and ROM that has as little Samsung and Google proprietary nonsense on it as possible while keeping features I actually use. MicroG support and a debloated custom rom would go a long way.

Only brand loyalty I endorse(currently) is AMD>Intel/nVidia. Partially because I like their design ethos, but also because Intel and nVidia have terrible business practices when they dont have stiff competition. Once AMD reaches marketshare parity all bets are off though lol.

$1100 is a bit steep which is why I am trying to cover all my bases before I make a decision. Big change from my N4 which I have had from release until very recently for around $650. Given the length of time im likely to keep it I will not complain about the price as long as it has reasonable 3rd party dev support for 3+ years.

Companies that include non-removable bloatware on their phones should have their decision makers marched out on the street and have tomatoes and heads of lettuce thrown at them. Its like they are making their phones faster just so they can include more bloat while keeping the user experience the same speed. The AOSP implementations of Android on the N4 were night and day in performance compared to ones with Samsung bloat.

Thank you all for your input.