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[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] fredfox_uk:
I've got one of these, and whilst it's ok when your just charging the phone, it doesn't provide enough power to charge the phone and use SatNav. Used about half of the battery on a 1 hour journey. Not sure what it would have used without it though. Better than nothing, but not good enough. I bet that using BT as well and making calls it probably wouldn't cope at all.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hertc:
yeah, I noticed the same, it was a bit less than even .. any idea where to buy the proper one ?

update: found a cheap one here, but it is white ! a bit applish (
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] fredfox_uk:
I think an adapter for the PSP would work, they use 5V / 1amp and there are some out there that have a USB type connection such as this :-

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PW-2993P-Car-Charger-USB-PSP/dp/B000G8NO5E
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hertc:
This morning checked the adapter I am actually using and it was 1.5A (but dual), does it mean it splits power even if the second slot is not used. so effectively I am getting 0.75A ? Sorry, physics is not my strongest skill )
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] fredfox_uk:
Sorry, I don't know :( you could be right.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] keko001:
i have this and its working fine and de mony ;-) look for your self

and here is the link where you can by it

http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02698&dept_id=060&cat_id=0858

good luck
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
A question that cannot be answered but by the manufactor as it depends on how it was designed. It may be that the max output on one string is limited to 1 A to reduce heat/damage to the device. My dual recharger i 6W which results in 1.2 A, and it works great, but then again it is rare that I recharge both phone and bat at the same time.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
The iTube one looks like mine (the original HTC CU S170, which is great) and fetures a charger with a whitebluish HTC logo like the phone recharger rather than the usual red LED. I added a Y cable and a Bekin FM transmitter which allows my to define two preset frequences.

The down side is that I cannot use TA (as the car radio tunes away from the radio transmitter frequency in this case) and the TD FM receiver is picking-up noice, and is diffucult to operate while driving with the navigation on. But for my MP3 files it works just fine.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] heretic:
Hi, I'm about to buy this holder. Is there a way to NOT use the handsfree function, so I can only use my bluetooth headset? Can you check that for me?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] keko001:
there is no function on de car kit i think that you must do it on the TD you can turn off the headset function i think than you can use bluetooht

butt why you whant than this carkit this is a car kit whit handsfree fuction you can better buy only a holder for the TD if you want too use bleutooht i think
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] nubbin:
Check this one out -

- see here - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-CAR-CRADL...18&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&timeout=1218752093496

I bought one for another car and it is a very nice cradle which powers and charges the phone but nothing else - so would be an ideal set up for your bluetooth headset. Maybe that's a better solution for you?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] RandomDude:
This looks like what I'm after. Does it have echo-cancelling??

Also, can you get it with a air-vent clip style mount?

Ta.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] heretic:
Actually I was thinking about getting this one, but as compared to the one I'm after, it's too fat. Also, the mount on the one you've posted is too ustable (in my car, anyway). I guess, I'll have to get the handsfree type and live with it or just cut the wires for the handsfree part of it...:cool:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
I find the original HTC excellent and slim. To overcome any shaking I let the neck touch the dashboard and it's dead steady. You can also get types that clicks into the vents, which I came accross during my quest for a suitable solution.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Kevlah:
I thought that was a good idea for my last window mount until I removed it and found it had worn through the dash finish to show shiny metal underneath. I think if you have hard plastic dash you should be OK but if it has a smooth/soft finish like that in a Renault Megane (2004) be careful. I'm looking for a suitable replacement that won't damage my dash any more.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
Oh dear. Nice car, which I convinced my parrants to buy some time back (they are on the third one now), though I have the major competitor, i.e. Citroen Picasso. I guess that must be hard plastic as I have used the concept for two years with my Mio A701 before changing the phone. Have you thought about putting a double gluing inbetween. I think this should solve the problem and not look too bad.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] RandomDude:
If anyone sees a mount with car vent clips as an option, please let me know.

It doesn't have to have hands free but should have a speaker and charge the device.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
Just recalled where I saw it (page in Danish) but search for Brodit ProClip manufactured for mist cars.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] RandomDude:
Sorry, I don't have a car it will fit. Thanks anyway.

Any other ideas?

Also has anyone put any thought into what car holder we can use if we decide to get an extended battery down the track?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] kokkie:
Herbert Richter Vent mount attatchment

Herbert Richter Professional vibration free vent mount

Look for "Vent Mount Bracket"
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] kokkie:
Something like this:
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
Just wondering - will this cradle stilll hold the Diamond in landscape orientation, or does it fall out?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] kien:
Its not really held into the holder other other than the usb connection and slight pressure from the sides of the cradle. I don't think mine would fall out even under fast cornering, I probably would have it slightly off completely horizontal to be safe.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
Cheers thanks for the reply. I envisiage using TomTom in landscape mode if I was to buy one of these holders.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] keko001:
I use this you can use the vertical and horizontal

and sits like a solid block

for this money you can not get better
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hertc:
btw, could you remind me how to use tomtom in landscape, I could not fins this option on TT7 .. thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Kevlah:
I couldn't find the orientation option in TT7 so I installed GSEN and it worked a treat.

(http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=403939)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
Likewise - I use GSen to flip TomTom 90 degrees. Lack of built in landscape/protrait toggle in TT7 seems to be an omission. To be honest TomTom is the only app I use that really benefilts from being in landscape mode. All other apps including Opera & IE work better fro me in Portrait.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hertc:
Thanks, does not work for me though. Tried different combinations .. no effect. Could you post the contents of your config here (or in the original thread, as this is a bit off topic) ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
Thats good to hear. What are your thoughts about the durability of this unit. I saw someone in a Kaiser thread saying that after a while they fall apart from exposure to sunlight. In your opinion is this a bit of BS or is yours starting to deteriorate too.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] keko001:
I have no problems with it,works well even if you're on the phone and you do it in the car kit then he is right about the speaker be heard. it remains well on the window vibrates not work

well for that amount its good
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hacqua:
So it is not possible to use any type of case when the device is in the holder, even a silicone one, right?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] halloj:
Go to programs and Gsen config and select start with windows and save also toggle gsen on with gsen toggle.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Thornton:
USB Sync?

Hello

Does anyone know of a holder (like the Brodit) that actually support plugging the USB into a computer?

I have a CarPC in the car, and would like to connect the Diamond to this for charging and using it as 3G network.

Unfortunately the Brodit dosen't support USB data (only charging)

So does anyone know of a holder where the miniUSB just dosent end in a Cig plug or 2 wires for power.

(Don't really care if the USB plug is actually on the wire, can always add the plug myself. But the miniUSB must be full wired)

Regards

Thornton
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] kien:
You can get the passive brodit holder and just plug it straight into the PC?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] kien:
I'm not sure how much bigger the silicone case makes the phone, you might be able to remove the foam bits on the side/back of the cradle but I think it will be a bit of a squeeze, any other case won't fit.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
I'd suggest the HTC Diamond car upgrade CU S170 containing:

HTC Touch Diamond Car Charger

HTC Touch Diamond Gooseneck Device Holder

See picture below. This works perfectly.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] unwired4:
Brodit do a mount that has the USB splitter so you can plug in a charger and a headset.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Thornton:
Yes i could just use the passive Brodit holder or the CU S170 - but the i would have to fiddle with plugging the cable in "manually"

The Active Brodit with the splitter is only for power or headset. Not USB data.

:-(
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Oscar21:
I can confirm that the brodit active holder (40cm one that splits 3 ways) does the microphone side of things as well as stereo output and charging. At the moment I have hacked up an old pair of headphones and wired these via a microphone and an FM modulator to the car stereo, and power to the phone via a cigarette lighter, so I can listen to media player (crap) and make phone calls via the radio. However when the power is connected there is a slight electronic interference constantly, much the same as my old M5000 that had seperate jacks for sound and power.

I think I am going about this in the wrong way and am thinking about wiring the stereo output to a 2 chanel amp instead of the FM modulator and wiring this into the 2 front speaker wires. I think this may eliminate the interference from the charger possibly being picked up from the modulator.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Thornton:
Why not just buy a new headunit with AUX in?

That would save you the trouble of the amp, and you would still have a normal car stereo.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] pwatts1977:
i know it sounds barmy but argos do a universal holder that fits onto the vents
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nikolic:
Any one got one of these? Worth the money?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Oscar21:
Because 1. its a mondeo with a daft radio and 2. I would like tomtom to superimpose the sound over the speakers whilst I'm listening to the radio, and indeed when gthe phone rings.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] davey33:
car kit for diamond

just go to ebay type touch diamond in search bar loads of car accessories for sale:)
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] kien:
Yep, was gonna get the brodit but didn't want to pay the extra for less features.

Its excellent value for money, very sturdy (I adapated mine for my car rather than using the windscreen sucker). The only slight issue is that the mic isn't very sensitive but I do have it placed on the far side of the dash. Also, the speaker/cigarette lighter plug might look a bit bulky depending where your lighter socket is.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] mugglesquop:
i am now on my 3rd one of these! the first didnt charge the phone, the second acted like the call button was continuously pressed in, and now the latest one makes the GPS disconnect when plugged in!

has anyone else had problems or found a answer to the GPS problem?

Cheers,
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] RandomDude:
Yes, they are fantastic!!!

Speaker and handsfree works well. However I opted to use a gooseneck mount from my own collection instead of the holder it came with.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nikolic:
Brilliant, thanks!

I've never used a car kit before, so didn't really know what to look for! Some on the kits on ebay looked really cheap, but this one looked quite sturdy.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] MoiX:
I got one of these too, very sturdy as you say, the handsfree volume is pretty good (I have to turn the volume down a bit) and when I've asked people I've called how the volume is for them they thought it was fine.

I do have one issue though, while the call/disconnect button seems to disconnect fine, it doesn't activate my MS voice command with a long press. Not sure if this is a software problem or hardware though but vc on my bt headsets button works fine so probably the unit itself.

Anyone else confirm if their MS VC is activated properly with a long press on the units button?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
I finally got one of these from Brando in HKG. Same unit as described above but I just added a photo again so readers can see what is being talked about. Delivered to Australia in about a week.

Thanks keko001 for the suggestion.

My Observations

Pro's

1) Buttons and knobs work exactly as advertised.

2) Green for Charger ON and Red for OFF is counter intuitive. (Trivial)

2) The phone holder works really well portrait and landscape. Very little chance of the phone falling out.

Con's

1) Because you have to slide the phone about 3cm to remove it, this can restrict where you site the unit on a sloping windscreen.

2) Arm articulation is not ideal if you intend to frequently rotate between landscape and portrait. This is because the rotation joint is behind the first elbow on the Arm. Most people will have this elbow bent to get proper orientation. Therefore when you rotate between portrait and landscape the plane of the phone changes as well. This is a nuisance that could have easily been addressed by placing the rotation joint at adjacent to the phone holder. In the designers defense they probably did not envisage a phone that would be flipped landscape portrait regularly.

3) Because of 1) & 2) siting the unit in my car was problematic as compared to a flexible arm. OTOH most flexible arms cannot readily flip portrait/landscape.

4) If you use a lanyard on your phone it is somewhat harder but still possible to use in the cradle. (If you do not press it all the way home it will charge but the handsfree/headset indicator does not come on)

Comments / Questions

1) Does anyone know if it is possible to map the "single press to voice dialer" to go instead to Contacts list?

2) Is there a way to get the phone to turn on when placed in the cradle?

3) No problem with GPS. Works fine for me. (Someone else had a problem with this.)

Build quality is a little on the cheap side but I still think it is good value for the price.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] NoBody20013:
@logger:

what if you have a bigger battery? e.g. the "turtle" one with 1800ma will it still fit?

thanks
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
No,

Because there are 4 rubber strips in the cradle to hold the phone firmly in place. Two on the sides and two at back. Increasing the phone thickness at all would prevent it fitting in.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] e_sela:
Would it charge with GPS software working?

If I have tomtom running, would it charge the Diamond?

What is the output current of this charger?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] MoiX:
I've recently got the Brando too and yes it does have enough juice to run tomtom and charge the battery at a good rate.

My only gripe was that I couldn't get MS Voice command to activate with a long button press but have just updated my rom to a new one with Cyberon VC and it works fine on that :)

In the meantime (tonight to be precise), I've been modding my old car holder for other purposes by bodging a bracket to replace the sucker and arm and will mainly use it for plotting my rides with Trackme & TomTom rather than taking calls :p

Still have to wire in a usb charger to the bikes electrics then I'm ready for action :D
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] logger:
Yes as far as I can tell it does. By this I mean the battery charge level does indeed increase when running TomTom. However, I have not bothered to work out how long it takes to fully charge. Nor have I measured the output. Last week I used it as my only means of charging the phone for 5 days and I was using the GPS and TomTom whenever I had it in my rental car.

After several weeks of use I am still very satisfied with the Brando unit.

It works particularly well if you have FlipIt and Landscape Manila installed.

With this you can readily rotate the cradle through 270degrees and TomTom automatically switches. Further you can close out of TomTom back to TF3D in landscape and you are returned to Landscape Manila.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] harweyko:
Have someone tried oroginal HTC CU S170? It should look like this:

http://www.klautel.pl/pub/klautel/Oryginalne_akcesoria_HTC/uchwyty/cu_s170.jpg
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hertc:
DealExtreme have finally got this one in stock, $18 delivered, I have paid twice more for it on eBay recently:

Fits the original diamond perfectly and is also supplied with proper 2000 mA charger, the phone's battery is actually charging when you use gps-tomtom, wifi and bluetooth at the same time
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
look e.g. at my post 80. I find it excellent, but of course you have to connect the cable evry time you fit it in the car.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] GPSSlovakia:
Are you saisfied with your holder ?

I am just wondering how it is possible that DealExtreme is so cheap...
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] hertc:
Yes very satisfied, "plug-and-drive", I normally dislike suction holders, but this one holds very well and can be rotated to the required orientation and angle ..

DX are normally cheaper than anything else in most cases, they ship directly from hong kong, but for some reason several times cheaper than HK based eBay sellers, maybe because they sell in big quantities they can operate on a lower profit margin ...

offtop

is petrol cheaper in Bratislava region or in Austria ? are petrol stations open till late in Slovakia ?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] tuckr:
cradle (not carkit) also fits MDA Compact IV

I already had the Parrot CK3100 bluetooth carkit built into my car and was looking for a cradle/charger for my MDA Compact IV. I found this from CarComm and love it. It fits perfectly and built quality is of a very high standard. Bonus feature, the charging element is in the cradle not in the plug.

Edit: it's not the cheapest solution out there, but well worth it IMHO
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] WhiteSoxxx:
I've been looking through this thread and it appears there are a few references to car mounts that aren't car kits (no mic, etc). Which car mount did you guys end up purchasing if you didn't need the full car kit?

I just want window mount, with charging capability if possible... so that I wouldnt have to plug phone in before i snap into mount.

edit:

Has anyone seen a Touch Diamond mount like the original Touch mount here? That mount has worked great.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
Get the HTC TD original then. It does what you seem to want and works - I have used it since July.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] cybulman:
Pro Clip

They have a Made in Germany PDA holder which is solid and mounts very easily.

Rubber grip claws and very secure.

Cy
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] WhiteSoxxx:
link by chance? didn't see it referenced in this thread elsewhere.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] jatinps:
Hi All - I am kinda new to car mounts. So I just got my original htc cu-s170 delivered. Its pretty neat and does the job, except for one point I wanted to clarify - Can the neck be bent on this mount. My windscreen has a very small angle and even if I keep the holder at max tilt, the phone is still not facing me, but facing the car floor. Before I try to bend the long straight neck, wanted some clarification from others using the cu-s170, on whether I can bend it or will I break it if try to bend it. Seems pretty rigid and un-bendy !! :o
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
Bend all you want. It's rigid and will stay in that shape you give it. To avoid it from shaking whike driving you can bend it so it touches the dashboard firmly (or put a small pad in between to avoid wear on the dashboard). Good luck.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] jatinps:
excellent!! thanks for that input - boy did i think i will have to live with a diamond facing the car floor :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] WhiteSoxxx:
Nuri, can you send me a link of the mount you mentioned?
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
I don't know which country, but google "HTC Diamond car upgrade CU S170" and you'll find it including photos e.g. at:http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=165981
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] WhiteSoxxx:
Thanks for link... does this work for USA Diamond? I am getting the Sprint Diamond which has a slightly different back, and I've seen a similar mount on ebay which mentioned GSM only.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] Nuri58:
Not a clue.
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] fxvxca:
i have a parrot bt installed in my car since a couple of years and works fine
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] jatinps:
Thanks for that input Nuri - I tried and it bends just fine :)

I have one more question to all cu-s170 users here - does the key on this handsfree emulate the send key on the diamond. I wanted to know if this can be specifically used to invoke ms voice command. I haven't tried yet, figured i'll just ask here :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] jatinps:
Hi All - I tried this - long pressing the button on cu-s170 handsfree invokes the default cyberon voice commander that came with diamond. I wanted to know how I can configure this button to invoke Microsoft voice command or do i need to long press the answer/send key on phone every time :confused:

any tips as i am not sure how to map a key under the buttons settings on diamond :p
[Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Accessories] batcatman:
has anybdy tried to use this on Sprint Diamond? any other suggestions for sprint user?