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[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] aaa12585:
I came from a Nexus 5 and ran that thing into the ground before finally purchasing this device.

My view is this,

It's the best phone I could buy for the money. I paid $600.

I have a few quirks with available ROMs and Android pie, however I'm confident Android 10+ and TWRP devs will come around and relieve a lot of these things. They're invaluable for the pixel series.

I know deals are just around the corner and I suggest looking for $500 or less. Be patient. They'll happen pretty soon, keep your eye out.

Stay far away from Verizon since you can't unlock bootloader.

Disable wifi calling from your phone application if you have call quality issues.

OLED screen shows ghosting effect when pixels change from black to white too quickly. This was especially annoying for me for the first couple of months, but I've adjusted surprisingly well since then.

Every complaint you've heard about the Pixel 3 is typically a software issue. Everything this device supports and the hardware packed into it is amazing.

Front speakers were a big reason I bought the phone too! It's the only reason I prefer this over the pixel 4. Haha

I hope this helps you along with your decision and you're happy with whatever you purchase.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] patruns:
The Pixel 3 is currently $499 direct from Google. The Pixel 3 XL is currently $599. This is a $300 discount as the Pixel 4s are coming out next month. I jumped on this at the beginning of the month and bought both for my wife and I. We too had the Nexus 5 for a long time until switching to the LG G6 2 years ago. I normally don't switch phones after 2 years but this was too good to pass up. Also we are on Google Fi and these work perfectly with it.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] Nidstang:
I bought the 3 (non-XL) about two months ago when Google sent out the $300 off coupons. Had been on the Pixel 1 (non-XL) before that but the battery on that phone was starting to show its age.

I've been thrilled with the 3, and the update to Android 10 improved it even more. Let me know if you have specific questions, but I think it is a completely viable purchase at this stage of the game.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] box12:
So I bought the device :)

Now it has Android 9, and due to the posts here I think I should wait before updating to Android 10
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] Remuzzz:
Mmmm, I'm also considering buying the Pixel 3 atm. But I have only one concern: battery life. What's your experience? Is it possible to use the phone for more than one day, with mediocre use?
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] patruns:
The first Android 10 had some issues but Google did an update earlier this month. I haven't found any serious issues.

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I don't have a problem with mine lasting a full day. You could consider the Pixel 3XL instead which has a larger batter and screen. I bought that for my wife and now wish I had bought one for myself. It's not as big as I had expected.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] Remuzzz:
Thanks for your quick reply! But one of the reasons I'm considering the Pixel 3 (and not the 3a for example) is the compact size. How much juice do you have at the end of the day? More than 30 percent?
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] patruns:
It varies. I find it seems to use a lot of juice just sitting there, but I usually have more than 30% at the end of the day. I am not on it for an hour at a time, just checking things now and then.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] sstanton86:
I heard a lot of negative things about the battery life, so before purchasing my pixel 3 a month ago I was dubious; especially consider I owned a pixel 3xl at launch.

Anyhow, all I can say is I'm very surprised. It's got even better since android 10 came out. I get 5.5-6.5hrs screen on time a day, and everything is stock. So that's good enough for me.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] BBobby:
Same here, very happy with my pixel 3. got it on a steal at best buy for $399
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] RoccoN4:
I have a Note 10 that I have until tomorrow to return. Thinking of grabbing the Pixel 3 to save some money. Battery isn't the best on the Note and I don't really use the S-pen.

Good idea or should I stick with the Note?
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] Note10.1Dude:
Having used Samsung and Pixel, I'll take a Pixel over any Samsung phone, based on the software and support experience. At the current $300 discount Pixel is a great option.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] qtotter:
I'd say it depends on the price. If it's US$400-500, I'd say "Get it.", but if it's $600 or over, look for a better deal.
[Google Pixel 3 Questions & Answers] Note10.1Dude:
Having now seen the Pixel 4... if you can get a good deal on a Pixel 3 go for it. I don't see much benefit from the newer phone (except a year more security update support).
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] amkirk94:
So, Xiaomi just released their plan of updating their Chinese devices on MIUI 11. You can find the plan on their homepage here (scroll to the bottom)

As you can clearly tell, Mi Pad 4 is not on the list (neither is Mi Pad 4 Plus), so unless they change their mind, we're stuck with what we already have.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Erics9n:
Thats utterly incredible incompetence...

If it would stick with 8.1 Android ok... but at least MIUI 11
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lich_king2:
Will it be possible to develop unofficial MIUI 11 or Android 9 and 10 roms if they release sources?

github.com/xiaomi-sdm660
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Erics9n:
Mi 8 Lite/Youth is getting MIUI11 in the first batch, it also uses Snapdragon 660.

As well as Redmi Note 7, Mi 6X,...

I am really courious what devs maybe can do with it.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] gaja22:
We should waiting on Friday. I think we'll got MIUI 11.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] enigmedark:
Some times in the past Xiaomi didn't mention MI Pad 4 in the releases, I hope we will see MIUI 11 next Friday.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] amkirk94:
It seems that we're getting MIUI 11 from xiaomi.eu

https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/9-9-26-first-miui-11.52341
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] enigmedark:
But there are no rom for MI Pad 4 on xiaomi.eu right now.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] gaja22:
If no MIUI 11, goodbye for me to MIUI. But which rom should I choose? [MENTION=5248797]amkirk94[/MENTION], are you working on a new build of Pixel Experience?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] amkirk94:
Pixel Experience Plus on Android 9 will keep getting monthly security updates and a few new features at least until the end of the year.

Meanwhile, our friend [MENTION=5621191]rcstar6696[/MENTION] is working hard to get us some Android 10.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Filippo21:
I agree with gaja22.

I'm seriusly thinking about to switch to Pixel Experience Rom for many months. I have 2 questions:

1. What are the difference between Pixel Experience and Pixel Experience Plus roms? I'd like to use a stock rom without developers personalizations.

2. Are OTA updates available or I have to install manually every new update?

Thanks in advance for tour support.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] amkirk94:
1. The difference between Pixel Experience and Pixel Experience Plus is that the Plus version has a few extra features, while maintaining overall the Pixel feel. Some of the features on the Plus include Navigation Button Invert Layout. integrated Screen and Sound Recorder, Status Bar Customization and many more.

Currently the 2 variants are maintained by 2 different developers.

2. OTA Updates are currently not available for neither Pixel Experience, nor for the Pixel Experience Plus.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ProtoDeVNan0:
Next: MIUI 11 Android 10 :cool:

Pie MIUI 11 seems pretty nice and stable so far. But why stop here..

Edit: Tablet mode enabled screens, and yes. It's very smooth. Even manual camera settings work.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] enigmedark:
It's a port for MI Pad 4?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bart1981:
There is. Running it myself.

Here you go
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] amkirk94:
IT'S OFFICIAL

Mi Pad 4 is now EOL on xiaomi.eu

Meaning that we're not getting MIUI 11 from Xiaomi.eu!

Source
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zirafa:
Please link
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ProtoDeVNan0:
I'll upload it only when I'll get Android 10 MIUI 11 to work and most/all bugs will be fixed. Official Pie vendor from Xiaomi would help a lot, but seems like Xiaomi doesn't care at all about their tablets.

Right now I have to stabilise Pie vendor, then I'll try different bases to see which one will work best, and after that I'll try to upgrade Pie vendor to Android 10. It's a ton of work but in the end we hopefully will have mostly working MIUI 11 Android 10.

I've been using Pie MIUI 11 for a day now and it's really amazing. But we all want Android 10 :D

I'll post pics as soon as Android 10 MIUI 11 boots. (Might take a while as I just realised Q needs System as root)
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Erics9n:
It is just on EOL status for chinese weekly builds, not for stable releases. On MIUI 11 Stable release list its not listed with EOL as of now (https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-11-0-stable-release.52628/). I dont have too many expectations, but one can dream...
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] gaja22:
It's a shame... Not one year and half released...
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] sysak:
Actually didn't they announce that they will be reducing the number of devices participating in open beta program not long ago? Maybe they will still roll out the stable versions.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luke301:
Nope, Xiaomi officially discontinued all the tablets because they don't beleave in tablets anymore.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] limonet:
If you managee to do that will be a remarkable job. And so far you are the only one trying to accomplish that. We can not expect EU to do so as they don't do ports from other divices just compile from the official roms. The dev of ReVOS say that he will try to do a port from another device with the same 660 SOC like redmi note 7. But its a ton of work and he is very busy with the rest of xiaomi terminals.

I particularly don't care if we have miui 11 on pie or Q. The priority is to have miui 11.

We pacienttly wait for your news. Well done

If you finally manage to do so, i will advertise and promote it in my spanish telegram mipad 4 group which has 500 followers and many will be over the moon. Its not a sale rubbuish group but one with plenty of BOT base tutorials and guidance
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ibooth2004:
Please release this MIUI Pie, I just want MIUI 11 whether if it is pie or android 10.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] BoORDeL:
me too, it would be an incredible gift to mi pad community
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] motes:
I'm allso fine with 11 Pie! Q will be amazing but Pie will be fine! Last miui 10 it's Oreo, so pie it's a great deal!

Enviado desde mi MI PAD 4 PLUS mediante Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ProtoDeVNan0:
Well guys.. I have bad news.. I wanted to release a test build for those who just can't wait but my PC is dead and all Development for MP4+ and OP6 is dead now. I have the rom.img saved on my SSD but the issue is that I found out that Apple SSDs use their own proprietary connector. So now I have to look for some adapter.

Don't worry though. I'll just work on my weak server, do the port again as it wasn't that time consuming. And will upload a build. But this server has 2GB of RAM so doing everything will be very slow so give me some time. I also have storage issues on it which makes everything even worse. But I'll do it somehow.

I also lost my vendor so we will have to use Arters vendor for now with custom keymaster until I get a good PC again.

TL;DR: I'll soon (hopefully this week) upload MIUI 11 Pie test build with some bugs, and later when I get a good PC (hopefully around December), I'll take care of the bugs.

I'll also enable GCam Support for everyone who wants to use GCam.

And Xiaomi said they will be releasing MIUI 11 to more devices soon so we most likely will be on the list. But until then. We'll enjoy the ported MIUI.

(Just in case if someone doesn't believe me, just check my other threads on XDA).
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] chris.j.schultz:
I have been playing with the phh treble rom. Fast and stable. Standard Google not miui but I am ok with that. Android 9 stable, 10 not far away...

github phhusson treble_experimentations, can't paste links yet lol
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] motes:
Oooo that's a pity! [emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]

What kind of rom did you use? Gsi or .zip flashable?? I tried to use treble on MiPad but i didn't success on it... [emoji28][emoji28][emoji28][emoji28] Wich do you think it's better?

Enviado desde mi MI PAD 4 PLUS mediante Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChrisM243:
So far I am running the xiaomi.eu weekly build. But it's really been a while since the latest rom for the Mi pad was released. Does anyone know the reasons for that? Even older Note devices are still updated on a regular basis tho...
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ibooth2004:
Xiaomi have given Mi Pad 4 terrible support so no more updates for MIUI stock or xiaomi.eu which is based on stock. For now I'm on Pixel Experience Plus to stay updated. Hopefully MIUI 11 will be ported soon.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChrisM243:
Oh it's that bad? Aww, I really like my Mi Pad 4 Plus, so I am really disappointed on how badly it's treated. Also I can't see much development in case of custom roms either.

I really wonder why, since there are not many Tablets around with a decent hardware besides the way, way overpriced S-line tablets from Samsung.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ibooth2004:
I like my Mi Pad 4 and much prefer it to my phone for gaming and watching videos, but as phones are getting bigger many people don't buy tablets anymore except iPad and Samsung which are designed to replace your laptop.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChrisM243:
Perhaps we need to buy the next Mi "Max" then, that should get more support despite beeing smaller as the Mi Pad 4. If I'd need the tablet for work I'd buy an iPad pro but just for videos and webbrowsing I pretty prefer Android like on the phone.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] senur3:
I hope so, but there is no news about it any where
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Levopron:
I feel like MiPad 4 literally deadborn tablet. Xiaomi made great tablet with bad support.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nemix77:
Looks like there's a dev is working on ports on MIUI 11 EU with Pie/Q(10) for the Mi Pad 4.

Seems like everything is going good with the Pie port but dev wants to wait for Q(10) fully working.

Don't expect it anytime soon though, last I read dev's server broke down; perhaps early 2020 might be a good bet.

Recently switched back to MIUI 10 EU after trying Pixel Experience Plus.

Pixel Experience Plus is great rom don't get me wrong, however I got bored of it quickly because of how plain and simple Google's UI and apps are.

Of course there were other factors too like slower WiFi, animations slowdowns and some bugs with certain apps.

There are several things I really enjoyed about Pixel Experience Plus:

- Location and Canada region works perfectly (something I've never experience before with MIUI 10 EU)

- Notifications for all apps work perfectly right out of the box (certain apps don't work out of the box with MIUI but playing with the settings fixes it)
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] motes:
Great News!

Enviado desde mi LG-h870 mediante Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zirafa:
Обновления для
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] gorilla p:
I have been absolutely disgusted with Xiaomi as of late. I recently decided to give Xiaomi a chance due to the value of their products.

I got the MiBand4 and a couple weeks later, they remove custom watchface support from the already crappy app. I was really irritated.

I purchased the MiTV 3 and MiTV 3S. The MiTv3 had horrible power problems after they broke it after the 8.1 update. It would not power on with the remote and had to be unplugged to work.

The 3S was better, but had performance issues.

I was looking for a tablet and the MiPad 4 looked like a great value with decent specs that wasn't released too long ago and it's already dropped support for it?

I won't ever buy another Xiaomi product again. Their hardware is fine, but their firmware support is horrible.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ProtoDeVNan0:
So.. I spent last 6 hours trying to get MIUI 11 to work with Arters vendor and kernel but no luck. (You can see results in the pictures below). No idea why his vendor has so many issues. He also doesn't give permission in his post for others to modify his work so I can't add my stuff to his vendor. And I tried also making my own vendor but no matter what I do, my vendor doesn't even boot at all. Which is extremely weird as I used same method that I used before for OP6, MiPad, RN7 etc. This PC is also very slow and freezes all the time so working on it takes ages.

I'll try to boot MIUI 11 on Oreo vendor somehow but Idk. We'll see.

Edit: no luck with Oreo vendor. And other 8.1 devices that have MIUI 11. Are either MTK or non Treble. So.. Idk anymore tbh.

I really can't believe Xiaomi updated all their phones to at least Pie. But they don't care at all about Mi Pad 4 Plus. It wasn't a cheap tablet and even Samsung makes mid end tablets but at least provides Pie for them. And with Pie vendor we can even have Q thanks to VNDK. On Oreo this vndk thing doesn't seem to work.

Tonight I'll keep working on this vendor thing. As soon as it will boot. Fixing other bugs will be "easy".
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] didicola:
i thought that all the android project is open source and if someone gives credit to someones else job it is ok to use it and go further more
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ProtoDeVNan0:
Big Good news!! :D

My own Pie vendor booted. I also used LineageOS 16 kernel which is open source so with good amount of credits I can use it. And it's pretty good so far.

Now, why did I boot Phh Treble? Because it has least amount of security so it's best for testing stuff like ported vendors etc.

If everything goes well. In the morning I'll upload a build :)

Edit: MIUI 11 here we goo

Edit2: Fixed camera

Edit3: Fixed Fingerprint + FP Touch to home
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] xphiphi:
i need a link. you can share it. thanks :)
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] hey07:
Great job. Look forward to try.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] ProtoDeVNan0:
Here it is! Now I can finally sleep :silly:

https://xdaforums.com/mi-pad-4/xiao...-11-9-9-26-t4002431/post80878113#post80878113
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] evanderfreitas:
Thank you for your work in keeping us updated.

Are you working on ROM MIUI 11 android 10?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] motes:
Be carefull instaling this rom, some users, and me, get corrupted the partition persist and acelerometer stop working!

Enviado desde mi Mi 9T Pro mediante Tapatalk
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] anjo88:
hi there is there any news? I just bought mi pad 4 plus.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] cyberphil83:
miui 12

It seems it will get MIUI 12 ?
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Darklawyer:
Maybe MIUI 12

There's this app on Play Store Called "MIUI 12 eligibility test". And it says that the Mi Pad 4 is going to be able to receive the update.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] madsurgeon:
Can't download it from play store anymore, full apparently. But looking at the list from one of the posts on the eligibility list the mi pad 4 isn't listed
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Erics9n:
"PS: There is no MIUI12 development version and stable version release plan for Pad series;

The release time of the above models may be adjusted according to the actual test situation. If there are changes, users will be notified in this post"

google translated from https://www.xiaomi.cn/post/19327587
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Just drafted a petition on change.org.

Pls improve like post as a reply.

Nothing is certain except 1+1=1, taxes, deaths, and Mi Pad series not to receive any major system update. The Mi pad 4 was launched with a Snapdragon 660 chipset (14nm). Nevertheless, this is not an excuse of it to update to android 10 . It is evident that there are terminals that have a lower processor than the Snapdragon 660 like Snapdragon 625 on Mi A2 lite, which is on the roadmap of Android 10.

On the dark side, the support guy behind the screen rejected us for the fourth time for a newer android version, only supported by the aforementioned lame excuse which is evidence-lacking.We do not understand why Xiaomi ignored THE FULL MI PAD SERIES, WHICH IS AS SAME AS SAYING 'Don't ever try to buy Mi pad series as we will NOT provide any support to your device. This force us to either stay on the ancient android O, which was present on the Mi 5 2016 smartphone or go to unstable custom rom which is very easy to brick your device with one click.

We only ask that you to push MIUI 11/12 under Android 10 to Mi pad 4, which has the certain right to update to android 10. We are all going to sign this petition, not only the carriers of a Mi Pad 4, but also anyone which thinks their phone deserves a new os. We strongly demand Mi pad 4 to update to android 10.

I will launch the petition in 7 days if no response.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thanks. I will launch the petition next day. The link will be posted here, please check it out!

[Update]

Final preview:

Nothing is certain except 1+1=1, taxes, deaths, and Mi Pad series not to receive any major system update. The Mi pad 4 was launched with a Snapdragon 660 chipset (14nm). Nevertheless, this is not an excuse of it to not to update to android 10. It is evident that there are terminals that have a lower level processor than the Snapdragon 660 like Snapdragon 625 on Mi A2 lite, which is on the roadmap of Xiaomi devices that will receive Android 10.

On the dark side, the support guy behind the screen rejected us for the second time for a newer android version(9 and 10), only supported by the aforementioned lame excuse which is evidence-lacking. We do not understand why Xiaomi ignored THE FULL MI PAD SERIES FOR ANY MAJOR UPDATES, WHICH IS AS SAME AS SAYING 'Don't ever try to buy Mi pad series as we will NOT provide any major update to your device. This force us to either stay on the ancient android Oreo, which was present on the Mi 5 2016 smartphone, which is significantly older and less powerful or go to custom roms which requires quite an amount of computer knowledge and is very easy to brick your device with one click.

We only ask that you to push MIUI 11/12 based on Android 10 to Mi pad 4, which has the certain right to update to android 10. We are all going to sign this petition, not only the carriers of a Mi Pad 4, but also anyone which thinks their phone deserves a new operating system. We strongly demand Mi pad 4 to update to android 10, globally and stably.
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Petition launched.

Link 1: http://chng.it/Fqw7gLGF

Link 2: https://www.change.org/p/mi-pad-4-to-recieve-android-10-mi-pad-4-android-10
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] Crescendo Xenomorph:
signed, I will put this @ official MIUI forum

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DONE

https://c.mi.com/thread-3091503-1-0.html
[Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thanks