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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] :
Is there a way to get the battery percentage displayed in the circle on the status bar? Also, does anyone know how to whitelist apps in the app switcher from being closed when pressing "close all"? There is the lock thing but it is buggy.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] gRooster:
Settings > Status bar > Battery status style > Circle
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] german_psycho:
Did anyone manage to get Plex to work on this ROM?

I installed all the fixes mentioned here in the thread, but Plex fails on playing videos..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Flo655:
No issues with Plex on my side using the OMX fix posted here. Only apps needing Widevine are failing to play.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] desidude2000:
Yep dead for sure. Havent seen any major updates in ages.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] n3wt:
Yeah, no.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] GuyInDogSuit:
It's not dead until [MENTION=5749760]ggow[/MENTION] says it is. And he's busy with irl stuff so it's on hold, NOT dead. There's others currently pitching in to get newer LOS versions working, so keep an eye out for further developments.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] parintan:
People says that situation is DEAD

There is no major, So minor updates 4 months.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] rwalle:
"There's others currently pitching in to get newer LOS versions working"

who? where? after ~8months?

I thought the whole thing about open source, LineageOS, and the xda community is that people with different skills and ideas can do very interesting things with phones/tablets, like finding ways to root or make different ROMs. But after 8 months, there is no major update to suez, while ROMS or updates for other fire tablets keep showing up. If this is not dead, I do not know what is. If ggow is so busy, I would expect someone else to step in and make a ROM.

Someone will probably say that I am just downloading and talking, not contributing anything. Fair enough. Anyway I just sold my Fire HD 10 and gave up on this tablet forever. My next tablet will be an iPad, and I doubt I want to read anything on xda for a while.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Noter2017:
How can you even compare these tablets?

An iPad will cost you at least $300 while I paid less than $80 for my Fire HD 10.

Lineage 12.1 is fully working and stable on this tablet.

Lineage 14.1 can't download Netflix videos for offline viewing and something with SD cards, if I'm not mistaken.

So why should someone step in and fix something that isn't broken?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Legitsu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUl9NPPMx8s
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Rortiz2:
What's wrong with you?

I really hate when people comments this kind of ****.

[MENTION=5749760]ggow[/MENTION] it's PRETTY busy, and if you didn't know, he already said it in a few ocasions.

If you think someone else can make a ROM, do it yourself no?

Looks like you don't know how much work requires mantain a ROM for a lot of devices at same time:rolleyes:

Lemme do the list:

Fire HD6/HD7

Fire HD10 2017

Fire 7 2019

Fire 7 2017/2015

Fire HDX

Amazon Fire Phone

And more devices that are not from Amazon. Just check out ggow's threads...

Yeah, you did it great. Thanks for leave the Fire community, now go to **** to the iPad one.

Regards!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DB126:
Lol - personalty flaws on public display. Let me guess, still having teat separation issues. Don't think social distancing will be a problem for you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] rwalle:
A few people are so quick at jumping into attacking mode. LOL.

To be clear, I have no problem with ggow being busy. I understand. Everyone has real life problems to face.

I am disappointed in this so-called "community". The community is not as good as one would imagine. Nobody is stepping in to make the ROMs, but instead a few people here are immediately doing name calling, finger pointing, saying "how dare you say this project is dead" instead of simply admitting that is case and letting it go. I was not even using a bad word, but some people seem eager to start personal attacks, e.g. "personal flaws", "****", "teat separation issues". That is how you engage in discussions. As a software engineer myself, I find this very toxic. Open source projects come and go, people move on to other things in life, that is just natural. But I just do not see many rude discussions like this.

Yeah you got your Fire HD 10 tablet for less than $80. But how much time did you spend on rooting, flashing ROMs, and finding solutions to headphone jacket/Netflix/Prime Video issues? Doesn't your time mean anything to you? (If you just like modding as a hobby, that is perfectly fine, but not that many people here.) I could have spent more money on an iPad, get a smooth experience and save myself some time. In fact, I should have done that. Plenty of people, especially outside xda, think the same way as me. Just read the Amazon reviews. Tons of negative reviews. And I cannot wait longer for a nice ROM. LineageOS 12.1 (based on Android 5) is so old that I am having problems with installing some apps from Play Store, and "Lineage 14.1 can't download Netflix videos for offline viewing" is obviously a huge issue -- I mean, if this cheap tablet cannot even be used decently for media consumption, what are you planning to do it with? You probably know it yourself that with such small RAM web browsing is painful. Not to mention Play Store download wait. Aren't these serious concerns? Obviously it is not "something that isn't broken". Someone seems to get really angry about turning to iPad as well. ("traitor!") ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ggow and many other people have done great work. I have been following "ROM brainstorming" thread and it is amazing to see people iterate on each other's results. To be honest, I did not expect that I would be able to unlock the bootloader and flash the ROM at the time of my purchase. But you have to admit that Fire HD tablets are not good products (when viewed as a general Android device), and the progress on this particular model has been slow. I have been waiting since September, and I am done with the waiting. And since September, a lot of things happened. New iPad with 10.2'' screen released to good reviews, often discounted at $249, and new generation of Fire HD 10 released. People will inevitably turn to the iPad or the new Fire HD 10, and I do not think what I am seeing here is helping the users. If people here feel so justified to defend the community and attack anyone who has some different opinions, so be it.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DB126:
Follow-up was well considered and accurate (IMHO) from a utility perspective; going after a community of 'best-effort' volunteers is where one gets into trouble.

OT - moving on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] retora:
Unlike Amazon or the XDA community, Apple has given advice on how to disinfect Apple devices. So it is understandable that nowadays people prefer to buy an iPad.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Noter2017:
It didn't take longer than flashing a custom ROM on a phone. The whole thing didn't take longer than 3 hours.

Now I'm running Lineage 12.1 with 3 different users on the tablet. My wife and me each have a profile with all our apps while my son has a limited account (Google Family Link) allowing him 30 minutes use of selected apps every day.

Thanks to Adaway all advertising in apps and websites is gone.

Downloading videos for offline viewing works perfectly fine in Netflix and YouTube.

I also expanded storage with a cheap 128GB card.

IMHO that's a pretty good deal for less than 80 bucks.

Please tell me a single app that isn't working for you.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DB126:
There are quite a few apps that won't run on Android 5.x or below including many aligned with financial institutions. The bar is quickly moving up to Android 7.x and sometimes above. Definitely a case of YMMV depending on functionality and app portfolio.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Michajin:
Fantastic! goodbye!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] rwalle:
Bear in mind that:

The lowest "public" price available on Amazon, Best Buy and Target etc for a NEW Fire HD 10 (2017) was $100. If you used a special promo offer like "20% off for up to $50", one might also be able to use that and get an entry level iPad for $200. Not to mention that $100 is subsidized price, since the original OS has sponsored ads, so you should add an additional $15 for the ad-free version to compare it with other tablets (which are ad-free). It is just unfair to say a Fire HD 10 costs $80 while an iPad 10.2'' costs $250.

Your 3 hours comes with a lot of prerequisites, including but not limited to: familiarity with fastboot, Linux, TWRP, gapps and potentially Magisk, plus knowing where to find all the threads. That is a lot, especially the Linux part. I imagine even a regular xda user who mainly uses Windows would find some difficulty getting Ubuntu Live environment set up. Most people would just simply walk away. Not to mention that it took a long time for the bootloader unlocking to come by -- before that I was doing Play Store sideloading, Fire Launcher hijacking, bloatware disabling and a bunch of other things, which also took some time. Thinking about it today, I feel that my time was spent terribly.

Want some examples? Here they are:

ru.iiec.pydroid3

com.jabra.moments

com.google.android.apps.recorder

com.microsoft.office.word

You have to be on Android 6.0/7.0+ to install the app or use full functionalities.

Finally,

As long as you are happy about it. You made you choice, and I have made mine. Please do not quote me. I am not interested in having any argument with anyone. I just want to remind people of the actual situation this tablet and this project is in.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DB126:
{original post above}

These too are excellent observations to which I fully agree. Munging Amazon devices is a great learning opportunity (for those unfamiliar with the tech) or way to leverage existing skills for the 1% crowd who already know Linux. That said, most of the hardware isn't worth the time/effort. A $30 Walmart Onn 8" or 10" (refurb) will run circles around most modern Amazon devices right out of the box.

(FWIW - I own samples of almost every Amazon device since the 2nd gen HD which I still enjoy; some rooted/unlocked; most not. Favorite remains the 3rd gen HDX which remains competitive 7+ years after its release)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] german_psycho:
And making your point clear took your four posts, repeating yourself over and over again?? Phew...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Michajin:
Here is your quote...

"Someone will probably say that I am just downloading and talking, not contributing anything. Fair enough. Anyway I just sold my Fire HD 10 and gave up on this tablet forever. My next tablet will be an iPad, and I doubt I want to read anything on xda for a while."

Not gonna argue or debate, yet here you are.... Enjoy your Borg Apple device and be well....
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] GuyInDogSuit:
Since this is getting way out of hand now.... Can we just all agree to disagree? They made their choice and while it's not a favorable one in some of our views, it is to them. XDA isn't about bashing Apple products, or criticizing people for liking them. They have their merits, and Amazon products have theirs. Let's just leave this whole thing behind and wish them luck. Now whether rwalle chooses to stick around now, is up to them, but let's not forget that this is a community first and foremost, one that's supposed to be about working together. All we're doing at this point is arguing ourselves in a circle. Take my advice:

Let. It. Go.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] pharpe:
Hi everyone. I'm new to the Amazon Fire world but not to Android. I have a HD 10 Suez on the way and I'm trying to decide what direction I should go with it. My preference is as near a stock android experience as possible with the latest version which brought me here. After reading the entire thread I understand the dev has put this project on hold to focus on other things for now which is totally understandable. What I'm struggling with is getting a clear picture of where everything stands. I see a lot of people have jumped with various workarounds or fixes but it's hard to track them all because they are sprinkled through 60+ pages.

From what I gather the main issues are

Wired headphones not working - Fix - headphone enabler ( [MENTION=10317629]spelcheck[/MENTION] ) - https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=81494297&postcount=515

OMX Broken - Fix - flashable OMXFix ( [MENTION=9906981]Ziona[/MENTION] ) - https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=80762749&postcount=248

Unable to read SD card when in the device - No fix

1080p not working - No fix

Latest Netflix does not work and old version that does will not save content locally - No fix

Additionally there are a couple of enhancements

DT2W enable ( [MENTION=10317629]spelcheck[/MENTION] ) - https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=81151735&postcount=451

automatic brightness ( [MENTION=8165603]DragonFire1024[/MENTION] ) - Read some stuff about this possible working. The last post I see was this but never saw a link. https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=81151735&postcount=536[/QUOTE]

Questions

Is this assessment accurate?

What exactly is not working at 1080p. Is it just Netflix or all apps?

Do Plex, Disney+, ESPN, Sling, and Youtube work?

I trying to determine if I should go with LOS 12, LOS 14 or a ROM based on FireOS. This tablet will be mainly for my kids streaming. Mostly Plex, Disney+ and Youtube. No banking apps or Netflix. They use some school apps: IXL, RAZKids, and Istation. Also Play Roblox. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] violentx:
[MENTION=3882870]pharpe[/MENTION] Your assessment is accurate. For your use case go with FireOS - everything will be working completely fine regarding streaming but overall performance is really bad. Try this version: https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/development/rom-t3929969

Alternatively go with LineageOS 12 if an older Android version doesn't bother you - it is more stable than LOS 14
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] smithbill:
I'm using LOS 14.1 and it works pretty smoothly. Plex & YouTube work fine, but you have to install the OMX fix. I can't comment on Disney etc
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] divinehawk:
I answered my own question from reading back. Unfortunate that we won't see any more development on this. Particularly since the HD8 is still getting updates.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] byfgjk:
I wish there was more explanation and documentation for people who have never dealt with mobile devices but know a thing or two about linux and file systems. I was able to root my fire and install TWRP, I followed the instructions and now back into regular FireOS with SuperSU installed.

What do I do from here? How do I "flash" something, how can I get back into the TWRP menu at boot?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Michajin:
From a power off state, you use volume up and power to boot right into recovery. Also, from the OS using adb (adb reboot recovery) or an app that is a reboot app with root privileges. AKA quick reboot or others in app stores.

You should post non suez Lineage 14.1 questions in the correct forum though...

---------- Post added at 11:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:15 AM ----------

Questions - All my apps have been working and i dont have any issues with this rom. 12.1 is limits some apps from installing and 14.1 was a better option for me.

Is this assessment accurate?

What exactly is not working at 1080p. Is it just Netflix or all apps?

Do Plex, Disney+, ESPN, Sling, and Youtube work?

I trying to determine if I should go with LOS 12, LOS 14 or a ROM based on FireOS. This tablet will be mainly for my kids streaming. Mostly Plex, Disney+ and Youtube. No banking apps or Netflix. They use some school apps: IXL, RAZKids, and Istation. Also Play Roblox. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

see responses above..

this app should work just fine with the OMX and mic fix in place. IMO
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] pharpe:
Is there a recommended version of Magisk that runs best in LOS14 or just install the latest?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] TheDevil259:
I'm just using the latest and it works fine.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] gRooster:
Someone said earlier is this thread that you should only use 19.3 (personally I had installed 20.3 before seeing that, and have not had any issues so far).
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] pharpe:
Update. I got the HD 10 and went ahead and installed Lineage 14.1 with the headphone and OMX fixes. I also put the latest Magisk on. My observations:

Working

Plex

ESPN

Prime Video

Youtube

Roblox and Minecraft

Adaway

All of the non streaming apps I've tried. Mostly educational kids stuff.

Not working

Disney+

Sling

I tried side loading Disney+ because it doesn't show up in the play store. Loads fine and I can log in and see all the videos. However, when I try to play one it just hourglasses and never starts. Sling I was able to load from the play store but behaves the same a Disney+ once loaded. If anyone has any ideas on how to make those work especially Disney) I'd appreciate it.

Other than that is runs good. Performance and screen quality is not bad for a 3 year old $100 tablet. I may do a backup and throw LOS 12 on it and see if I can get Disney and Sling to work there. Not sure if it's the ROM or the fact that it's rooted that is preventing them from working.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] gRooster:
The problem with those apps is probably from Widevine DRM which does not appear to be functional in this ROM.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] liciou:
Hi, I have now installed Lineage 14.1 on my Fire HD 10 2017 (suez)

My use case is to have this tablet connected via ethernet while is getting charged. I have connected a Realtek RTL8153 based ethernet adapter over a USB OTG cable. It does not work.

To me it looks like enable support for RTL8152/RTL8153 Ethernet devices came to Lineage after 14.

-So are there any other chipsets supported that work with 14.1 and my fire HD 10 or is there a way to patch Lineage?

-Fire HD 10 shows charging only for a few seconds when connecting to a USB power supply with my setup. Charching is not working, what could be wrong?

Thank you
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DB126:
I have yet to see an Amazon device that supports concurrent charging and OTG communication. I believe this is a chipset issue vs ROM (Lineage) but could be off on that. If Ethernet is available consider setting up a cheap AP nearby. As a bonus you'll get better throughput on WiFi due to limitations of the USB2 bus which only supports 30-35 Mbps in the real world. Good luck.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] pharpe:
Another update

I installed the MagiskHide Props Config module and was able to get the tablet to pass safely net. I changed the profile to a Pixel C and was then able to see the Disney+ app in the Play Store and installed it from there. Unfortunately I get the same thing on both Disney and Sling. Apps work find but no video.

I took a backup and tried LOS12. I was able to get everything app working as well as camera and video. The downside is performance is pretty bad, the Play Store hangs constantly and the battery drain is terrible. I basically have to turn it off when not using it because it doesn't appear to standby. It will die in a matter of hours just sitting not being used. Guess I need to decide if it's worth the trade off.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Ziona:
This can help with better battery saving for those interested

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/wifi-sleep-timer-patch-t4070561/post82077939#post82077939
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] dragon647:
Hello,

Thanks a lot for the hard work on this ROM. As a Fire 10 user I really appreciate it. Some bugs I've noticed:

1. Hardware acceleration of video isn't working. Stuttering occurs for 60fps videos.

2. Speaker volume very low (even with speaker mod linked in this thread flashed)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
Install vlc for video playback

Open the audiofx app and make sure its on, now slide all sliders up. Now play something.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] dragon647:
1. VLC doesn't do anything for hardware acceleration of YouTube videos. Battery drain is extremely high when watching YouTube due to the software acceleration of videos. 60fps videos skip frames. Hardware acceleration of YouTube videos does work in the Lineage OS 12.1 ROM so hopefully this can be fixed.

2. Tried this, didn't work. The volume panel doesn't increase volume at all about a quarter of the way through the volume slider. Much quieter volume than FireOS.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] MarvinMod:
[MENTION=5749760]ggow[/MENTION] just wondering, are you still working on this project?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] BeniS98:
I think this project is dead.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] E5k9cfRy:
Thanks for the work. Everything works fine for me except the Apple Carplay problem. I bought a Carplay dongle on Amazon, when I plug the dongle, the dongle cannot work. However, it wokrs fine on stock ROM and Lineage 12.1. The problem for lineage os 12.1 is: After I install the Magisk and Taichi module, and then reboot. The screen has backlight but nothing to show.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] DB126:
How pleasant :rolleyes:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] dragon647:
I managed to fix the low volume issue. Flash this zip https://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=13100, turn off AudioFX and enable Dolby Audio. You can switch between the modes and pick whichever one you like. The volume is nice and loud now.

Another tip, when you're not using the tablet put it in airplane mode. I get only 1% battery drain after 24 hours when the tablet is in sleep mode.

The only issue remaining for me after two weeks of testing is the video hardware acceleration not working on Youtube (60p videos skipping frames, high battery usage due to software acceleration). Besides this issue the ROM is perfect. Thanks again ggow.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] jpinzon408:
Hi, I have a Tablet Amazon Fire HD 10, but I want to change it from the operating system, but I am new to this, and I have not been able to "unbricked" or "hack bootloader" to install TWRP. What do you recommend to do it most naturally? I have everything to do it, but I don't know where to start and the errors that appear to me.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] Sc4r3Crow:
There are some threads that state the procedure to unlock your device and how to install TWRP. Search for them...
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] pharpe:
First do you have a 2017 or 2019 Fire HD 10? TWRP cannot be installed on the 2019.

If you have the 2017 (code name suez) then follow the instructions https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639

If you are having an issues then post specifics in the appropriate thread.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Original Android Development] jpinzon408:
My Tablet is 2017, but I have problems with the installer and method to install. Do you have a technique or tutorial for this?

Yes, the way easiest to practice and how I can install the TWRP?