yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsongming:
The font setting is located under Display & Brightness /System Font/ Text Size & Font Weight. At the bottom you will see two sliders the bottom slider increases the width of the font, and it was working with all fonts. This looks amazing with English when using the IOS Bold font or the Helvetica font or other large Fonts and Roboto is not as good. The original MiLan Font also looked great but Xiaomi.EU developers removed it because it conflicts with some languages. Hopefully this feature comes back. I liked it so much that I considered rolling back to the last build, because it truly makes the whole GUI look better. I would like to I know if the option still works in the China build, if so we may be able to get it working again while using the Xiaomi.eu build. ( It is possible that they removed it due to a conflict with certain languages)

According to what I have read ( Xiaomi.EU developers) the stable builds will continue for a while with the Mi8. Plus, It was announced a couple of months ago that the Mi8 would get a stable Global Android 10 build with Miui 12. It will be nice to have better theming options from the global theme store.. Some of the Chinese themes are nice, especially the lockscreens, but too many seem geared towards children and with lighter themes. Personally, I think dark looks alot better with our amoled screens.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Agimax:
There is a font "Milan Pro V12 Medium" in the theme store under fonts that is like the original Milan. If you would rather have the original Milan, I have the .mtz theme file you can import, but the new Milan Pro V12 Medium looks far superior to me and been using it for a while now.

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[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jotacorredor:
Thanks I'll flash that one as well to see how it goes.

I get it now, I've seen those options before but didn't pay much attention to them before. I just got the suggested font on latest post and it does look quite nice :cool: Nice to hear we'll get stable versions for some time. I agree with you on the themes, they do look a bit childish but in my case maybe I'm the one getting not so young anymore :laugh:

Slds,
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsongming:
Thanks I will try it.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ozzy1212:
20.7.2 weekly is out!
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] edi1907:
When will come global or eu stable for mi 8?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] GilbertoG:
thank you for rom
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] jotacorredor:
There´s a new weekly version 20.7.9 that came out this past thursday if you want to take a look.

Slds,
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddin101:
Anyone with the fix of android.system.suspend@1.0-service battery drain?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] yesman89:
yes, the problem has apparently been present since the last build (20.7.2). I'm waiting for the stable version. until then I will use the last stable v11 again
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Eddin101:
I think that the problem with said battery drain has finally been solved in the most recent build.

(Also I disabled auto start of almost all apps)
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] najabi:
New stable V12.0.1.0 available for download:

https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/miui-12-0-stable-release.56191/post-548405
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ozzy1212:
New weekly is out!
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] najabi:
I have just updated to new stable V12.0.1.0 from V11.0.8.0 and it seems fine although I am surprised that the new fast settings theme is not implemented, and not available for themes. It has the old Miui 11 style. I mean when you swipe down from the upper border to enable/disable fast switches. I thought it was part of the Miui 12 experience. Anyone can confirm?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeLaLuz22:
You need to enable the new control center under "Display/Notch and Status Bar". Another thing I had to enable again was the animations under Developer Settings.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Estevão Antolin:
Hi guys, is there any way to activate the Focus Mode on Digital Wellbeing? I added some apps, turned it on, and nothing happens. Thx!
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] najabi:
Anyone noticed earphone speaker louder than normal at minimum volume during calls since 12.0.1.0 update?

I can't hold the phone to my ear, too loud!

EDIT: I think I solved it by editing /vendor/etc/mixer_paths_tavil.xml but it doesn't.

EDIT 2: I manage to turn down earphone by manually up and down the volume bar on the screen
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rash.3:
People, consult. I bought a Xiaomi MI8 with bypass MI Account, they gave it to me with the XiaomiEu v11.0.8 installed and with the bootloader open, and I want to install v12.0.1, could it be installed via recovery on top of v11 or is it necessary to do Wipe and therefore bypass again? ?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Adiyasa:
I want to ask, How to add a Indonesian language on miui.eu.?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bortex19:
This app has stopped working for me since I jump to Miui 12...

If you find anything, please, let me know!
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Estevão Antolin:
Digital Wellbeing is working on Masik ROM, I don't know why it doesn't work on xiaomi.eu, both ROM are based on beta China, right?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mar.ur:
No problem.

https://streamable.com/ovxdqn

BTW you have screen time in settings.

https://ibb.co/L8pQjpv
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pono2013:
I like the new control center but I also like the small screen (big dpi, I make my smallest width become 440 dp)

The problem is everytime I set my smallest width to 440dp the new control center become so ugly, the space between the icon become too long. Any idea to solve this? I mean can I set my screen to 440dp without changing the space on new control center icon?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Lutherian:
Hi !

I've tried the last August ROMs for the Mi 8 dipper and each of them makes me have absolutly no data connexion despite having the LTE+ signal to the max.

If I do a diag in the advanced settings, it says that I'm connected to Internet... with a 2.0 kb/s.

If I flash any ROM from July, I have no problem.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] reyborn:
Hi guys this is my first time here, can someone help me. I got a xiaomi mi 8 MIUI 12 20.8.20 china rom with android 10. I would like to root it.

Now do I need to flash the xiaomi.eu/global rom to root it? Or is it ok to root with MIUI 12 20.8.20 china rom?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] abmoh13:
In order to root the phone you need to have an unlocked bootloader, this will require that you make a request to xiaomi for an unlock code which takes around 2 weeks. Once the device is unlocked all you need to do is flash a custom recovery which you will need to use to root your phone.

---------- Post added at 08:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

In order to root the phone you need to have an unlocked bootloader, this will require that you make a request to xiaomi for an unlock code which takes around 2 weeks. Once the device is unlocked all you need to do is flash a custom recovery which you will need to use to root your phone. This process is the same regardless of the rom that you are using.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
Hi ! This is the end of weekly updates for mi 8 dipper.

I have the last 20.9.4 Miui 12.1 but always same mistake the autonomy isn't great.

Do you know which version of Miui 12 to install that does not have this autonomy problem.

Or I can flash the boot4.2.27 china with firmware 20.9.4 China ?

Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
Hi ! I use the last weekly 20.9.4 xiaomi eu rom but not have good autonomy.

I want to flash the boot img 4.2.27 china Rom. I understand how make boot image and flash it ! But I use 20.9.4 firmware ? I do flash again xiaomi eu firmware 20.9.4 ?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bcuraman:
The autonomy problem has always been a issue of the beta releases. You get the latest features at the cost of stability and battery. Therefore, at this point, I would definitely recommend installing the Stable Miui 12 Version from Xiaomi.eu, or even the one from the MiuiMix Team, which is also great. Stock kernel works great, although you also have Xceed Kernel, which despite been released in June, but it still gives you more juice for your battery( I have managed to get around 6HSOT and no hiccups). Have fun
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] caputcha:
Hi,

which kernel manager do you recommend and best setting to gain better battery backup

i cant find any tuto around .

Thanks.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
Hi ! Thanks for response :good:

I do it miui 12 stable eu version but do format data.

And test Xceed Kernel great 6hSot thank you :laugh:

Have a good day..
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
They had a new Xceed Kernel for Dipper mi 8 :)

content://org.telegram.messenger.provider/media/Telegram/Telegram%20Documents/5_6246799309468074393.zip
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] bcuraman:
Your link in incomplete, therefore I cannot access it. Besides that, on Telegram and on his page, nothing pops-up, since is last release was back in June. Somebody mentioning about being in tests with a new release, but couldn't find it.

Can you point in the direction of where you find this content? Much appreciated
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
Hi ! I have just clean flash stable miui 12 eu :good:

I use it without custom kernel for see autonomy.

The link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6RQ5A48cH29zsxLlf5B6lJ0Yq4SVMRc/view?usp=drivesdk

Have fun
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
No sorry it's only a reupload :( not an update.

But what this module content://org.telegram.messenger.provider/media/Telegram/Telegram%20Documents/5_6082351458450145521.zip (Xiaomi Tweak Module SDM845 v19) ?

And which App you use for custom kernel ? ELMX or Franco or Kernel Aduitor or Spectrum or another ? Thank you.

Just to day the stable version after format data work very fine no lag and good battery :good:

Thanks a lot..
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] alone_in_dark:
What about current battery life with stable miui 12?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
Great really with my old battery 5h 6h sot with xceed kernel. I have just change my battery with original mi 8 battery and it's amazing but just sfay for calibre it but now 1h at 100% with all notif and social.

But yes miui 12 stable eu Rom work fine but not only clean flash it format data is better.

Have a good day
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
With my new battery and Miui 12 stable eu Rom

55% 3h38 sot.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] PedroCaseiro:
Off topic, but.. Does anyone know anything the stock Global Stable? MIUI12 was supposed to arrive in the first week of september
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] teofashion:
guys i need your help, I have unlocked the bootloader, installed the basic twrp and try to flash the last miui 12 weekly.

The phone doesn't want to start, it stucks on Miui logo ( the pink one of miui 12) and doesnt charge the system.

Do you know why? can you help me?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bortex19:
If I were you I would flash the stable one (Mi 8 will not receive more beta).

You need to wipe data.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] caputcha:
Hey bro from where did you order the original mi 8 battery ?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
Hi ! I Have buy it on Aliexpress but you can buy it on Ifixit or Witrigs only OEM is good.

Have a good day
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] caputcha:
Hi , could you guide me to Aliexpress link ?

Thanks in advance .
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ggkameleon:
https://store.ifixit.fr/products/xiaomi-mi-8-replacement-battery
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] CROrION:
wow is it possible that latest eu rom from this phone is 4 month ago? o.O
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] siang930615:
china just release china stable v12.0.2.0.QEACNXM

*xiaomi.eu stable v12.0.2.0 available
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] raminta:
Do You know changes???
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] siang930615:
so far only see this changes

https://ibb.co/WkxPmtv
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] alone_in_dark:
What about battery life? Is it better than beta rom? Is there "android.system.suspend" battery drain in 12.0.2.0 rom?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] siang930615:
android.system.suspend still drain battery but if u change kernel this should solve so far its still same as 20.9.4 version
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] desvariando:
Can you make Google Pay to work?

I can't...

I could on AOSP ROMs
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] siang930615:
sorry i don use google pay on my country so i cant test it for u

but this rom safety net status Pass should be work？
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] caputcha:
Hi,Which kernel do you recommend ?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] alone_in_dark:
I am on eu 12.0.2.0 with stock kernel. Not facing that android.systrm.suspend battery drain. Overall battery backup seems better than last beta
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] xandreasx:
Hi guys, I'm on Eu Beta 12.1 20.9.4

There is the new global stable V12

Is it newer or is it the same as the last Eu Beta?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] xandreasx:
Hi guys, I'm on Eu Beta 12.1 20.9.4

There is the new global stable V12

Is it newer or is it the same as the last Eu Beta?

Sorry for the double post (internet problem)

I don't know how to delete it xD
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ekifakhruddin:
is it better than globally stable MIUI 12 ROM?

Because on this rom my cpu has throttle.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] siang930615:
sorry i not using global stable maybe u can try both and tell us which better :)
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Adiyasa:
I tried xiaomi.eu stable v12.0.2.0 but I think xiaomi.eu V11.0.8 is more battery efficient in my opinion. .waiting for the battery problem to be resolved.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] siang930615:
yea im pretty sure 11.0.8 sure more stable and battery efficient

currently they release xiaomi.eu stable v12.0.3.0 u can try it
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kurz97:
Reading light stopped working with the latest update for me when i updated via OTA (12.0.3). Is this just me?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] khanhdx:
I updated 12.0.3 from 12.0.2 and encountered the same issue. Besides, Wide Color Gamut seems broken as well. I did a clean install of 12.0.3 and up to now, everything is still good as it should be.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] abmoh13:
I dont know if anyone else have same issue, but I have this issue with my mi 8 since I purchased it about 1.5 years ago. This issue has kept me away from miui eu rom. Whenever I install miui eu, and I try to use the fingerprint scanner, it starts to bug out. The app seems to pick up ghost touches, which make the app deny access and ask for my pin instead. I have tried different roms and this issue seems to occur on all miui eu versions, and also miui 12 global, however miui 11 global works fine. Since this issue has now occured on global I'm am considering to contact xiaomi as I'm still within the warranty period, but I wanted to know if anyone else have experience this issue.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] khanhdx:
Yes, you should have Xiaomi check your device.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] najabi:
New Xiaomi.EU stable update for dipper! After four months! V12.0.4.0.QEACNXM_v12-10

Working good and kernel-patched with latest magisk

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xiaomi-eu-multilang-miui-roms/files/xiaomi.eu/MIUI-STABLE-RELEASES/MIUIv12/xiaomi.eu_multi_MI8_V12.0.4.0.QEACNXM_v12-10.zip/download
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xavind:
Thanks! Is there a changelog?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Blueesx:
Here you go. Taken from mirom.ezbox.idv.tw/en/phone/dipper/

Plus the additional mi app updates from xiaomi.eu.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] omidzht:
which version of twrp should i use to install xiaomi.eu 12.0.4 ? official or unofficial ?

i am using twrp TWRP 3.4.0-10 Unofficial by mauronofrio

i tried to install xiaomi eu rom "xiaomi.eu_multi_MI8_V12.0.4.0.QEACNXM_v12-10" (clean flash)

but i got this error:

e2001 updater process failed with error 7 failed to mount '/Cust' (structure need cleaning)

or

e2001 updater process failed with error 7 failed to mount '/vendor' (structure need cleaning)

what should i do ? :/

before install this rom i have (formated data, wiped all partitions) then restarted to recovery and flashed zip

some one told me to install stock rom with fastboot and then install twrp again

but the same error happened by doing this procedure.

excuse for my bad English

the lastest official twrp is

twrp-3.5.1_9-0-dipper.img

what is "_9" meaning ? could it flash android 10 roms ?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] omidzht:
problem solved, finally i installed this rom with this recovery:

TWRP-3.3.1-1031-XIAOMI8-Q+Version-CN-wzsx150

TWRP for Xiaomi Mi8 by WZSX150
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Xavind:
China Version? Not global?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Blueesx:
Yes, china version. QEACNMX. Xiaomi.eu is based on that. Not global.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] najabi:
Hello. I'm losing Google Pay contactless payments with latest 12.5.1 EU. Google Pay says "Phone doesn't meet security requirements" and "rooted or tampered in some way". i have lost Magisk SafetyNet check aswell. I have tried with props fingerprint magisk module but to no avail. I think it is due to latest Google Play/Services/Store version. I have tried cleaning all data but nothing.

I have also removed Magisk and reflashed 12.5.1 with stock to no avail. Anybody has the same problem? It's strange that after reflashing and unrooted GPay complains about "rooted and tampered in some way"...

Google Play Certification is not certified aswell.

It's a bummer not being able to use the phone for paying in shops.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] paeddi:
SorryI can't help with your problem, but you have written that you have installed stock 12.5.1

Is that stock global miui or xiaomi.eu?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] najabi:
I already solved it by reflashing rom (LineageOS and PIxelExperience). I guess with Xiaomi.eu aswell.I think the main thing is, if you touch /system or /vendor files, to flash magisk and Magisk Hide Google Play and others, and install Universal SafetyNet Fix module ver 2.1. That worked for me. Also disable-dm-verity can help.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] Diman778:
Можно ли вытащить apk MIUI 12 System App: Dark Mode 3.0 и установить в samsung?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] pabloeldiablo:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xi...files/xiaomi.eu/MIUI-WEEKLY-RELEASES/9.10.11/

Few bugs reported already, link to forum: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/9-10-10-11.52641/
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsongming:
OP has been updated

Direct Link DOWNLOAD WEEKLY 9.10.11 ( Miui 11 Based on Android 10 (Q) For Xiaomi MI8

https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1899786940962605999

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xia...0.zip/download
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] sensei22:
Does this need to be flashed using twrp?
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] grzpra:
i'm flashing mipa kernel & magisk in xiaomi.eu 9.10.11 (Android Q) and get bootloop. i installed mipa kernel first and it was booted up, but after installing magisk v20 it stuck on mi logo... i dont know if only flashing magisk work or not, will try.

nb : i have viper fx and google sans font module installed.

edit 1 : i still getting stuck at mi logo after only installing magisk. (module not yet removed)

edit 2 : uninstalling viper get me out of bootloop
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lockmunk:
root with magisk works? i tried many way, install magisk v20 succes in twrps. but after boot, magisk said not installed
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] mar.ur:
Use 19.5 canary

https://github.com/topjohnwu/magisk_files/raw/canary/magisk-release.zip
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsongming:
Q Feedback

So far zero issues on Mi8.

I removed all passkeys, made full local backup.

In recovery, swiped factory reset,

flashed ROM, rebooted, signed into Google and MiCloud.

Paused data and Wifi, restored local backup.

Stopped Google restore, and instead choose to update apps, ( The apps restored with with my Local backup)

Now everything seems to be functional and there has been no issues with anything: No heat, no battery drain, GPS works fine on a 10 mile test run, and I have made and received several phone calls, with clear LTE call quality.

Without a doubt this rom performs even better than the Pie Miui 11 rom

No issues whatsoever with Google Services, and no issues with Google Assistant.

Keep in mind that Google assistant relies on other tools, to properly function: for example, its ability to speak comes from either Talkback Services, Text to Speech or Accessibility Tools. Install one and you too will be issue free as well. ( I installed all 3 but will delete whatever I don't use.

Themes

None of the problems with themes or the status bar, that some people claim to have on Xiaomi.EU website.

System wide Dark Mode is impressively gorgeous, with no issues such as white text on white backgrounds and additional theme options are available in Developer options.

[MENTION=7665290]grzpra[/MENTION]

No issues with Magisk here, don't change to a third party kernel...you don't need to.

If you did not remove keys before swiping reset you may need to start clean by formatting data.

Extract the boot,from the rom put it into downloads folder, patch boot, boot to recovery and flash. Be sure that you have passkeys disabled when you do this.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ammaralidj:
Mi-Globe rom is also available based on latest release of xiaomi.eu.

and thanks for the TWRP data backup instructions
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] lcarolo:
[MENTION=7672955]tsongming[/MENTION]

So I can restore twrp data backup of miui11 pie over miui11 q beta? So I can keep bank account and so on...
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsongming:
No I was talking about Miui Local backups. But yes is you made an unencrypted data back, without passkeys, then you can sometimes restore that data as well.

If you don't have a local ( Miui Local Backup) and you were recently using Miui unencrypted, you can simply swipe factory reset in Twro then install ROM, and it will restore much faster using app data already in storage.

I setup MiCloud backups twice a week, and local storage backups once a week. Then delete backups as they become redundant. It only takes a little over 5 minutes to make a complete local backup and then copy that your desktop. So if you have to format storage you can copy paste it back over into SDCard/ Miui/backups
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] tsongming:
MiGlobe is Xiaomi EU but with a different kernel that is usually hit or miss. I don't use it anymore because the "free" extra ringtones and wallpapers are not great. Instead I built up a large selection of 3rd party ringtones and Walls that I like using the Zedge app. I then create a Ringtones/Wallpapers folder in the root of the SD and paste those in, to get backed up and restored by MiCloud.
[Xiaomi Mi 8 Guides, News, & Discussion] ammaralidj:
My mi-globe installation is unsuccessful "finished with code 256".

Than i downloaded xiaomi.eu rom but it stuck on first setup, i tried twice but same issue again. I was on RevOS test build, i first make a twrp backup then wiped everything (didn't format data by typing YES) than installed xiaomi.eu which was successful but after setup screen it stuck. Any ideas?