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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
So this is really pissing me off I like to keep around 25 apps running in the background in the recent apps .but every morning I wake up and there all shut down apart from 4 apps.this is driving me nuts.i had this issue on my note 8 one ui and fixed the issue by going to the battery and turning off auto disable unused apps,and turning off put unused apps to sleep.and turning off auto optimisation.then I had to go to settings then apps then click on an app then click on Battery ,then I had to click allow background activity (app can use battery in the background) I did this with all my apps and it worked on my note 8 with one ui

But the problem lies with my new note 9 I've factory reset it .and tried these same things I did with my note 8 but still I wake up in the morning and all my apps are gone from recent apps.ive even tried to click do not allow to use battery in the background and even that makes all my apps disappear apart from 4 or 5

Please experts I really would appreciate some help here as this is driving me crazy just need to keep all my apps running .its on the lasted fw updated it last night thinking maybe the older one ui was the issue but even on the nee update it still kills all my apps I've checked in deviled setting also and background process limit is set on standard like it should be

So please note 9 experts if you can help I'll be so grateful.

Oh btw I'm on the latest September security update android

One ui version 1.

Android v9. It's a uk unlocked note 9 on stock uk fw
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I'll pay cash into someones pay pal account that can tell me how to keep all my apps running in the background in recent apps over night.yes I'm that desperate to fix this bs .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Anyone care about keeping apps alive in the background on there note 9 ?I guess most people dont care that there phone wont keep there apps open on one ui.i see so many threads like mine asking how to keep the apps running but there is never a solution to any of the 30 threads I've read about this.ps I've brought 4 note 4s to test and they all kill the apps over night regardless of disabling the battery optimisation features
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Jovan1997:
Why u need 25 apps in background? ?? u have some prob bro....first fix you ? than phone....omg
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Bump for help I'm going to ignore that clown. He just a little kid 1997 explains it all smh ,anyway I just would like to keep around 10 of my favourite apps open chrome,firefox,opera,youtube vanced,my bank app,PayPal and my favourite games .is this possible on note 9 one ui because it is possible on my note

8 one ui and it was possible on oreo also.

But like I said I'll wake up in the morning and there gone
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] dPlatypus:
Disable auto optimization in device care. Go to device care, three dot menu and disable it
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I have it makes no difference bro the app still get closed after 8 to 10 hours
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] dPlatypus:
How about locking apps in app switcher? Long press app icon in app swithcer and tap lock app
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Thanks I've tried locking the app in goodlock app switcher apps still close after 8 hours idle

No exaggeration I can link around 30 threads from reddit and here and android central all with this issue and there seem to be no resolution, people are just saying pie on the note 9 is way way more aggressive at shutting down down apps in the background than pie on note 8. It's such a shame I brought 4 note 9 to test them all and they all have this issue.like I said oreo does not have this problem.im on the latest bootloader so I cant downgrade
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
Sucks your having issues. It seems some people are having endless issues with apps closing.

Personally, I found that the earlier version of pie were bad with closing apps, but it got better for me as the updates came. I still have to de-optimize widgets for them to update properly, but it never closes apps from my recents menu.

What do you mean by closing your apps? Are they gone from the recents menu, or is it just sending you to the main page of said app, instead of taking you back to where you were?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I mean when you press the recent apps button and you get the cards come up with all your apps open .only 4 or 5 of the last apps stay there in the background after 8 hours.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
That shouldn't happen. I manually clear apps ass I go myself, but if I don't they build up.

It really sounds you have auto-resrart on, where your phone restarts at a pre-set time every day and closes all recent apps. But with 4 or 5 that sounds odd. I'll try opening 15 or 20 apps and see if they don't get closed out of memory as I use the phone.

Can you take a screenshot of your device care homepage?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] gruuvin:
Why? This is terrible policy!

Go into Settings > About phone > Status and check Up time .... is it rebooting every night?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Defo not restarting at night no way I checked that.but I've noticed that when I wake up in the morning it wants me to enter my password for some reason.ive brought 4 new note 4 from the store and they all have this issue of closing apps over night and leaving 4 or 5 open

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When I check satus uptime I just see a clock timer running

Personally I want to keep around 10 apps running the apps I always use but it not possible :(

Auto restart is disabled
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Ypu can open 20 apps and they will stay running in the background forever as long as you use the phone.but if you have your favourite apps running in the background and put your phone down and sleep for 8 hours when you wake up the apps are closed apart from the last 4 or 5 apps that were used
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
Yes that's why I asked you for a screenshot of the device care home screen where it give you your "rating"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Not sure what you mean bro where is the rating in home care ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
This screen. It'll look like one or the other examples I posted
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Mine is 94 percent out of 100.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
I need the screenshot. I don't care what number it has
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Ok I'm trying to work out how to post pics
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I think your tolling me yes ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] gruuvin:
That's not a bug. That's a feature.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
What about these settings ? 3 dot menu under battery section of device care.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
Many of the settings in this menu are related to time and refreshing your apps ... Also this could be related to using the extended features of good lock. My phone does not clear any apps since uninstalling the good lock app that controls this added functionality. I think it's called multi star I can't remember right now. I'd uninstall that and try turning off the settings I showed above
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
These are all disabled brother
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
gonna unistall good lock and all the good lock apps I installed .and get back to you guys in 8 hours quick star is the notification shade kod that changes the colour and stuff I did not have that installed into my goodlock.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
What about this screen. Are all the apps you want to stay in memory unchecked? It should keep these unchecked apps in memory I have the ones I want under the three dots menu it has an option to add them to the exclude list
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
When I get to that screen some of my needed apps are checked here is a screen
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
Click the three dots menu and select add. Then pick your apps you want to keep up in memory I am pretty sure this will allow you to leave battery saving on but apps won't get killed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Apps I need to stay in background are calendar,opera,samsung internet,firefox,clock,youtube vanced, instagram,gallery and a few games
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
Wait I'm sorry that's not correct. Under the device care section click the three dots menu and turn off optimization. That's your setting I meant to send you to
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
This one
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
Ignore what I said about the memory settings that's the new cleaning feature to manually clean memory ... See my other post about the auto cleaning under the three dots menu
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
It's off bro that's the first thing I turned off
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
They moved some things around in pie.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
This screen is in the three dots menu under device care and auto optimization. It's not part of the battery settings
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
That's the first thing I deactivated 1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
It shouldn't happen. If it's really bother5you, I would try to re-flash the lastest rom through Odin. It may or may not fix it with it will rule out a software bug
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bobby_digital234:
Well crap sounds like maybe it's broken then and since I don't sleep more than 5 hours a night it never gets a chance to clear my apps. Maybe there's a routine you can set up with Tasker or automate to keep your phone up every three hours or something like that to beat the memory/battery saving features
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Yeah note 9 pie is broken that's why all 4 of the brand new note 9s I've brought all have this issue and I've read and bookmarked around 20 to 30 threads complaining about this problem and it was never resolved. And that's why most people downgrade to oreo I'm gonna have to give up and accept defeat to pie aggressive behaviour to the apps we need to keep running
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
If you sleep 8 hours or more your apps will be gone when you wake up apart from the last 4 or 5 you used.but you sleep 5 hours so that's longer enough to keeps the apps running
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I factory reset the phone again have not installed my back up.still my apps close over night. I give up samsung win they just wont allow us to keeps our favourites apps in recent apps overnight on the note 9 pie.im selling the note 9 and going back to my note 8 to fix the issue
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] supertx2:
There's really no solution for your problem if you tried disable every battery optimization setting on the phone and didn't solve it, and with note 8 on PIE update you will most likely have the same issue, you can check here : https://dontkillmyapp.com/samsung
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
You can factory reset all you want but if there's a filesystem error then a factor reset won't do a thing.

Flash the lastest rom with odin before you "give up".
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I dont know how to do that.plus ive tested 5 brand new note 9s ive brought in the last few days have this issue aswell out of the box.and im finding a new thread by the day complaing about this issue with hundreds of participants all pissed off with pie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] gruuvin:
I had about a dozen apps listed in Recent Apps when I went to bed, and in the morning there was about four listed. That seems logical, since all 12 of those apps were no longer "recent". This behavior has never been a problem. So now the question is, what's so wrong with apps being removed from recent apps when they are no longer recent? What's the negative effect? I'm thinking this is not a bug, and this thread is attempting to solve a non-problem. And if that is the case (feature, not bug), then returning a phone over and over, with the hope you might get a different result, is a bit insane!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
But some of us like to keep our favourite apps running so we can get staright back to them.you probbly have your phone set up to close your apps for you .ive set my phone up so no apps get shut down,yet they still get shut down.this is not an issue on note 8 pie one ui only on the note 9 pie one ui.oreo was perfect i could keep as many apps as i wanted in the background no issues its such a shame samsung downgrade there software like this
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Jovan1997:
I cant belive rlly ? this guy troll us... all wants better battery life but he want 25 apps in background for 8H? ?? rip ..... apps like chrome, opera, insta, face etc use too much battery,its simple better close and open again when u need.....Its simple and fast actually-how much time need to Note 9 open facebook or chrome? Or insta? 2-3s maybe less...bro grow up, i dont use on my comupter 25 apps in background xd
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
7

Shut up little boy go troll elsewhere like in a school playground or a busy road smh
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] wesamothman:
Settings. Device care. Battery.

Adaptive battery off.

Put unused apps to sleep off.

Optimise settings. Off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
That does not work im afraid
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] wesamothman:
Which apps close after 8 hours ?

All of your 25 apps or specific ones?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I dont need 25 apps open obviously 25 apps was a test.i like to keep around 10 apps open but if i open 25 in the morning only 4 will be there in recent apps

If i open 10 apps only 4 will be there when i wake up very frustrating
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] gruuvin:
I touch an app's icon and it loads faster than I can blink. Very few apps need their state frozen and persistent until I bring them up again, but that works fine for those that do. Any apps that need to continue working in the background do work in the background quite well, even when not listed in Recent Apps. If an app is not doing what it should when it is not visible, then that's a problem with the design of the app, not the OS. Recent Apps list should have no effect on these issues when an app is designed well.

My brower remembers every web page and position from where I left it, even if it moves out of recent aops or the device reboots. Another app constantly updates my metrics to a service even when I don't have the app in recent apps, because it's designed to always run. These apps are designed well and the OS doesn't break how they work.

It's all about proper resource management. The OS has an efficient memory and process management policy, and it's up to app developers to adapt to better polucy.

So, replace the apps that cause you problems. Which of your 25 apps must stay visible in the recent apps list in order to not fail?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] wesamothman:
I asked about the apps which close and the ones that dont. Could be app issue.

As I said earlier try to put adaptive battery off.

Also try to put maximum performance mode on and check over night.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
The apps that close are random..adapitive battery os off obviously and ising max performance mode makes no difference
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] macgyver40:
I run the latest version on my note 9 and all my apps are still in the list even after 8 hours and I have all kinds of optimizations on. Not sure if I did something or if a app/package I disabled has an effect on this but all my apps stay on the list which is long most days.

If there are any settings you want me to check I can. Can't tell you what I disabled with adb though besides Facebook.

Personally I can not see how much difference any of this makes but since for whatever reason my phone doesn't do what yours does maybe I can help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Thanks for the reply bro but there maybe a misscommuication here?Its it uk unlocked xenox version? And what are your settings? are all your apps that stay in the background optimised to use battery ?what exact version of pie are you on?all 5 of the note 9s ive brought this week are all brand new fresh out the box i broke the seal brought from the samsung store

all my apps are set to use battery in background ,ps ive even set it to not use battery in background made no difference, i have factory reset all 5 of these new note 9 phones still no difference .

when you say your apps stay in the recent apps menu after 8 hours do you mean when when you wake up in the morning and check recent apps you have more than 10 apps still there so the phone was idle for 8 to 10 hours?because if you touch or use the phone even tap the screen so the always on display shows that resets it and the apps will stay forever in the background untill the phone is left untouched for 8 to 10 hours thats why wveryone is makeing threads titles pie is closing all my recent apps over night.

you must open for instance 20 apps and leave the phone do not touch it or let your kids touch the phone or the dogs or anything lol for 8 to 10 hours do not touch the phone whatsoever, it seems you are the only person with a note 9 on pie one ui that this issue is not effecting ,so please help me bro .ive returned 5 note 9s now because of this amd they said i cant exchange anymore as they say its a feature,i can disable any packages you tell me to if you think that will work i can download package disabler pro

Ps brand new note 9s come with pie fresh out of the box now instead of oreo ,on i think it was the may or june patch cant remember because i updated them to the latest fw after the out of the box fw did not solve the isssue.ive updated them to the latest September version ota.and the issue persists. Everyone says this is a feature but if it is then why do we have toggles to be able to stop apps being shut down in the background if the toggles dont work.

Ps my note 8 on pie does not have this problem.it did until i made all my apps optimised to use battery in the background. This issue does not happen on oreo btw
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] macgyver40:
Ok I have the AT&T note9 512GB running N960USQU2CSI1. I used ADB commands to disable stuff like Facebook and some other stuff I can't remember off hand. I also have always on display always on. I will look at my deblote list of apps etc I got off here and try and remember what I removed.

Tonight I will have 20+ apps in recent list and leave it on the wireless charger and see what happens 100% and then will take screen shots of my settings if it has the apps still there. 90% sure it will. I play PUBG in the mornings and clear the list before loading the game and look at each app to see if maybe I didn't finish something the night before.

Oh another thing of note. I got this note9 from AT&T end of August and had to do all the updates. Not sure that info means anything to all this but being as detailed about my setup as possible. Oh and will make a list of good lock apps and settings. Well anything I might think of that could have any effect.

If I don't update right away its because I got stuck on remembering which things I disabled or uninstalled, reading and checking like a mad man before I post.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Thank you dude if your apps truly stay after 8 to 10 hours you have the magic phone because all 5 ive tried still shut down the apps after that amount of time truly idle along with thousands of others.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Bober_is_a_troll:
Try running this command and see if it changes things. You will ha r to run it every time you reboot your phone. But it may work.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Bump
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] macgyver40:
Some reason my wireless charger kept going off and on and kept waking the phone so that didn't work. Will try again plugged in.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] gruuvin:
pm list packages -d

That's how you see disabled packages. Keep in mind that you may see a few packages that you did not intentionally disable, but are automatically disabled by the OS. I have a list of such packages, since I recently investigated this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
None are disabled looking in the disabled apps list
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
I noticed your using a note 8 .if thats the case the note 8 on pie does not suffer this app closing issue .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] lotfy ahmed:
same here

i suffered alot from this action

i hope u found asolution
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Every single note 9 owner on pie is suffering this issue.alot probbly havent noticed the issue as they dont care about keeping there fav apps running all the time.but thousands of people like me and you want this resolved asap.no solution as far as i can see.ive read like 30 different threads conplaing about this app closing issue and not one of the threads had a solution.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] haircut123:
Also notice a volume bug with adapt sound that is not fixed by factory reset either.pie one ui is a discrace
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] macgyver40:
I had the 8. Currently in the 9 512gb version. Test to confirm my findings failed again. I have been creating a list of the apps I disabled or uninstalled. Trying to remember which Tutorial I followed since I have 2 saved as notes and 3 bookmarks and they are all a little different.

Update: auto optimization is on. Happens at 4am every morning. Will make another post with my other settings soon.

Sorry this is taking so long. Dealing with life and living in a bad neighborhood and this past weekend had a lot of action around here.