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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Gemini 666:
This should be the right topic to ask:

recently i bought my exynos note 10+.

I own a note 4 that in last years has been my main phone.

The first thing i tested and compared when note 10+ arrived, was camera features.

At the beginning i was surprised of how the colours, dynamic range and brightness in note 10+ were, comapared to note 4. And the low light photos seemed almost a spell: brighter than my eye could see (i grew up in analogic photograpy stronghold that any optics had to be at least slightly darker than human eye: no post processing software).

But checking deeper, i started noticing 2 things i can't explain to my self (i'm wondering if my phone is defective): the pics taken by note 10+ often had more grain (like for e.g. the old 800 iso in photographic films of analogic photograpy era), or more noisy than the same pics taken with note 4. This first issue could be due the note 10+ 's post processing software choice of using in effect higher iso, slower shutter speed than note 4, but nevertheless resulting in brighter images (on bright parameter note 10+ is far far better than note 4).

The 2nd issue, that is even more inexplicable to me, is that Note 4 (even if does worste pics on an overall rating), when i zoom into a shoot taken, has always better defined details than Note 10+. I can't understand that, as i'm not comparing note 10+ with last iphone 11 with deep fusion, or with Huawei p30 pro, but with a 5 years older phone, of the same brand and line. When in a photo i zoom in, on any written on a box/paper that is in the shoot, often i can see that at a certain point Note 4 pics is more definite, sharper, and readable than the same photo taken by note 10+. So, in note 4 pics, when i zoom in i see more details, more sharper objects, even if with a worst dynamic gamma. Note 10+ photos are more grainy, more noisy, less sharper, less defined, less rich of details (but with much better brightness and colours).

If you can suggest a good service to upload full resolution pics i will be happy to show you better what i tried to explain in a far from being perfect english.

Now i'm wondering (and i'm writing here for help) if i have a defective item and thus if send it to samsung service or if it is normal.

No one has noticed what i wrote? Is it ever possible that a 5 years old phone can beat its successor?

I also double checked if a protective film was still on the camera lens of note 10+, but i found nothing....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mafy31:
Look for ZGcam if you have troubles with the camera. It is for Exynos. Problem people are having is software related in average to low light, especially for portraits.

The stock camera app has sometimes troubles in average/low light to render the textures properly and remove noise.

Read above, and previous page you might be able to find workarounds ; there is a link for ZGcam app on telegram where you can download it and get support.

Also indeed pictures are bright, too bright. For better pictures you can click on screen and lower brightness before taking a shot, you will get less noise.

For still shots when light is not optimal you can use night mode, it works well.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] slovik1024:
I use stock camera with a tripode.

I was in french montains.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] sanghaviraj:
How others are able to upload 256 kb file n i cant, it says maximum 128kbs
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] xuggs:
Enough said.. every Note 10+ user must watch:

[youtube]KxsFat1ImiY[/youtube]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] sanghaviraj:
Coming from a note 8,Im using my note10plus camera a lot more, all thanks to the incredible camera, i just love the black white bokeh effect, since I'm unable to share pics here, you guys can check out my Instagram feed, I'm just amazed with a little post lightroom, how u can turn ur photos

https://www.instagram.com/raazj_sanghavi/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Illusive Man:
After reading all of this I decided to give my camera a try. Can't say that I'm disappointed at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] gloege:
no one has mentioned how the stock cam behaves in the android 10 update. that is what i am waiting on, but do i have to download the buggy android 9 OTA to get the android 10 OTA.; and some failed to mention that i noticed that pictures can loose depth at times and look flat 2d but i hope i do not have a faulty cam which is an 855 unlocked version. but coming from a lg g4 i wish i could say the cam was much better on the note 10+. at times i rather have a noisy lg g4 photo then a flat 2d white balance mismatch. the lg g4 did great with white balance
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] hagba:
After android 10 update last night I've noticed camera taking better pictures specially with the Night mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] MatroxD:
This was just a test quick picture I took right after updating. Looks clean to me. I generally don't edit my phone pics, maybe add a little filter. But it looks pretty decent...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Manson79:
Hi,

My lunch today, all in auto, not edited (matured prime rib "côte de boeuf maturée", before / after :p:D):

:D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
Wow, looks delicious, really nice pics!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] LuRock:
Portrait
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] MHB1638:
Anyone found / and use a Gcam port yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Makonator:
Zgcam...by zoran..there is telegram group for it...

https://t.me/ZexynosLounge
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] skryte:
Surprise. Lol woke them up in the middle of the night and had to take a pic. This is a few days after upgrading my sprint note 10+ to android 10 with oneui2
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Magnus3D:
Some of my first test photos with my new Note 10 Pro Star Wars Edition using a Google Camera for some pics and the standard camera for other pics. All shot in RAW and processed.

/ Magnus
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mattimat:
Nightmod A10UI2 0,5
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] p50kombi:
Just getting used to the note 10+, still on Android 9, as have the 5g model.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] King-V:
Best camera I've ever had on a phone, save for low light selfies, which I'm not sure any phone can yet do in a satisfactory manner.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] haothienxxx:
Same here. Sad to know that not many people suffer like us. Terrible noise with indoor + good lighting photos , esp on human skin (super grainy, somtimes pixelated - unacceptable :mad: ). Still dont know whether it 's faulty device or just a software error (SS center staff seems to know nothing but to repair hardware-related problems :( ) . Hoping for an update but uptill now nothing fixes it. Are Samsung really care abt us ?

pls update me your solution !?

---------- Post added at 04:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ----------

exactly my situation, in low light/indoor of course. Test more with human skin and you would get scared. :( , with too much luminous noise
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mafy31:
Like it has been said before, you can try Gcam application.

on Telegram : t.me/ZexynosLounge

If you are using snapdragon version : t.me/GoogleCameraGalaxy

Might solve the issues you're having with stock software in low/indoor light on human skins and loss of details.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] zaibjan:
The camera quality and clarity of pics is not as it have to be honestly I m a Samsung user since galaxy s was introduced used s1 s2 s4 s6edge s7edge note7 s9plus note9 s10plus and now note 10 plus but s10 plus and note 10 plus are really disappointing results only used s10plus 45 days and sold it by thinking maybe I have a default piece then purchased note 10 plus but its camera is more crap than s10 plus for me and after just 3 months its main rear camera went totally out of focus even tapping to focus don't work and I have to slap on it and then it starts to focus again one of my friend have same problem with s8 and he really surprised that note 10 plus have same problems that's very disappointing as I have spent 1200$ oh my GOD.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
Well, that reflects just YOUR experience, my authentic samsung galaxy note10+ exynos, takes excellent pictures
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Makonator:
If tapping the phone helps, than you got physically problem...probably lens stuck or something like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
What are you doing here? Don't waste your time complaining here, take your device and claim warranty, THAT will solve your problem
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] zaibjan:
Camera prob

Yes sure I will go warranty claim basically I m telling here to the people those who want to purchase that device so they can check device on the spot for such issues.

Thanks for your suggestions.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] arsiteki:
In my opinion. The Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is very useful for my work as an architect. With this smartphone I can take high quality photos to help my work in designing interior and exterior of the house :good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] andrewhahalee:
Photos for me are generally high quality with above average dynamic range, like most other flagships.

It just struggles a bit more with the slightest movement, compared to the iphone and pixel. (which I've used both).

And it's certainly not the hardware that's holding it back because manual mode gets moving shots done well (you only lose the processing power and great quality that comes from it).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] itzik_man:
I agree that the Note 10 plus Camera issues are software related and not hardware. The Note 10 plus have some of the best set of photo hardware in today's smartphones market and our complaints should be toward Samsung support services. Flood them with calls and email complains forcing them to fix the camera firmware. I already call and spoke to their support complaining about the slow reaction of the camera sensor on fast action objects. their reaction was that no other complaints were recorded by users on this subject.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] haothienxxx:
if it was that easy, then this forum is not needed :))))

SS never admits it s's fault.

I have used SS since S3, and change for a new one each year. Also, I have met so many people like u, who had been completely satisfied abt their phone until I helped them show out some "errors"

PLEASEEE, TEST TOUR NOTE 10+ MORE in low light condition, esp with human, and compare them with Note 9 's for exp, to see what I and many people here are crying abt.

NOTE: nearly perfect in daylight, BUT NOT THE CASE WITH LOWLIGHT + HUMAN
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
I really do not need to test the cam, I have taken a large ammount of photos since sept 2019, photos that I wish to have, mostly family, pets, vacation, nature, etc, in all conditions, daylight, night time and very low light conditions, this device produces the quality you can expect from a cellphone camera, beyond that, I have a real camera for really important photos
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] haothienxxx:
then, the angle of your viewpoint is from a cellphone camera perspective :) , and of course it (note 10) 's very much acceptable. I DO AGREE too :)

But mine and some other 's perspective here IS

the comparison with SS phones of previous versions.

So before projecting any words, consider other 's perspective, in a specific context.

In a word, Note 10 is mostly perfect as a cellphone camera. BUT, in lowlight + human skin, when compared with Note 9, S9, S8 ..... it 's terrible, human skin is terrible: super grainy or even pixelated :(

I am considering saying goodbye forever to SS phones. F... SS !
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Makonator:
I got note 8 before n10+ and n10+ is better in all conditions.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
And again, that is your experience, the photos my note10+ makes are by no means grainy, en even less, pixelated as you say, I come from a note 8, that I gave to my son, and my wife has a S9
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] marinosms:
Could it be that he has the snapdragon version? Have heard that night mode on SD is a bit behind compared to exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] haothienxxx:
"And again, that is your experience" : YOU HIT THE POINT dude :) . This is my exp. And I DIDN'T SAY it 's yours, right ?

And because "the akward pics" just appear to some and not to all, this forum is needed ! We need to know WHY :)

Hope your brain is clear now :) . And stop saying nonsense JUST because you are luckier.

p/s: I did send SS those horrible pics and they called me saying words like ....."I agree they are unsual, but could u please change some settings such as....." =)))))
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
I am not talking non sense, YOU have a problem, then take your device to claim warranty, that's it, no explanations needed, no ranting, just claim WARRANTY , period
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] itzik_man:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
That could be a reason, but the guy above clearly states that his photos of people come out grainy and even pixelated, sensor differences do not ammount to that, my exynos note 10+ takes really good photos, true, not very much better than the ones from the note 8 or the s9, but the 10+ camera is far more versatile, the night mode takes photos with almost no light, I dont know, some people, sometimes come here and post things as when somebody goes to a doctor for a cure but lie, not telling the whole true, nevertheless, when all turns for the worse, they blame the doctor! I m not saying that thie is case of the guy above
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] itzik_man:
I see the level of discrepancies in users opinion on this subject and I am thinking that beside the camera firmware issue (in my opinion), another issue may be in the sensor type in the Note 10 plus pending the area in which the phone was marketed. In Canada where I live, the Note 10 plus have the Samsung sensor and maybe in some other places, the phone have the Sony sensor. talking of firmware or software, my Pixel 2 XL, takes fast moving object photo like a pro camera, and all is the A.I and Algorithm build in the google camera software! If you look at the spec of the Pixel 2 XL hardware, it does not come even close to the Note 10 plus! Every picture is a perfect picture on my Pixel 2 XL and this is over 2 years ago technology!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] marinosms:
Is there any way to check which sensors are being used on which region?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] itzik_man:
Download AIDA64 from play store, it will tell you what sensor is installed on your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] marinosms:
Thanks but I was mostly interested in finding out what the sensor on the Hong Kong SD version of the n10+ is.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] PGZ001:
having the same issue of pixelated images and a lot of noise in it .... can't return it, because i bought this from a second hand.... so i now realized why he sold it ....

only way i found to workaround this is not to use the CAMERA stock app......

Looking forward to see how other have solved the issue.

---------- Post added at 02:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:54 PM ----------

a big step back coming from a note 9 ....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] zjhao:
China or Hong Kong version is also ISOCELL+ S5K2L4, Samsung Mobile did not purchase IMX445 from Sony CIS

(CMOS Image Sensor = CIS)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Gandhi70:
I have the device now for about one week.

And the camera is really a step up from my previous phone, a mi mix 3.

The wide angle lens is a welcome addition and the portrait mode generates much better pictures.

And I am also quite satisfied with the low light (indoor room with normal lamps in the evening) performance.

Yes, there is a watercolor effect when you zoom in, but Colour and sharpness are good.

This is just a cellphone after all, not a DSL camera with a light sensitive lens which weights more then a kilo (lens only) because of all the glass build in...

Gesendet von meinem MI PAD 4 PLUS mit Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mrlugo88:
I love how people use the reasoning "it's a cellphone" to excuse the issues with the camera. That may have worked a few years ago but not anymore. When you look at the quality of pictures on the iPhone or Pixel you see that this camera could be much better..

The main problem is software. Using GCam I get better looking, sharper images. Which tells me that Samsung needs to work on the software side of things to really compete with Apple and Google in this department. Hopefully thats all addressed for S20 series.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] sanghaviraj:
In love with the black and white bokeh effect,everyone just keeps asking me how's this done,
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Gandhi70:
Yeah I like this, too. All in all I am very pleased with the camera.

Gesendet von meinem MI PAD 4 PLUS mit Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] alirashidi73:
Could you please upload the file to google drive or any cloud deive ? It is amazing in absorbing the light

I am wairing 4 ur file ❤
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Paxin:
Coming from an IPhone 11 pro Max and all I have to say is, Note 10+ is like 3 steps behind.. .specially in night mode.

Enviado desde mi SM-N975F mediante Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
No, it is not
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Paxin:
OK

Enviado desde mi SM-N975F mediante Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] roadcabe14:
How does this compare to the 20 ultra?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Subham jyoti:
I agree to that. Samsung should invest in software quality rather than stupid 108 megapixels!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] bloggingrader:
The Galaxy S10 has three cameras on the back: a main 12-megapixel with an aperture that shifts between f/1.5 and f/2.4 depending on light. An ultra-wide 16-megapixel unit, and a telephoto 12-megapixel for zooming.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] eijnaix:
The original photo mode is exposure is 1 or 2 stop higher....that's all. When using , tap on the screen and pull down the brightness bar a little....and try.

Commons problem ...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
I think that the 2 ranting/bashers that posted utterly falacies about the note 10 cameras were just trolling, most surely they have not even been near a note series device
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Xenupy:
For me, the biggest problem about the camera is the software.

It doesnt support RAW shooting with UltraWide Camera or the 2x (53mm) Camera.

It doesnt support slower shutter speed that 10s (and only in the samsung software).

I think the camera 2 API should be upgraded.

The dinamic range is very good, the ultra wide camera corrections (distortions) are good enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] BCE111:
Don't own this phone yet but I'm considering buying one because of the videos I've seen with excellent photo and video images. Surprised at some of the comments here. Are these from Tim "Apple" burner accounts? ;)

One thing I am wondering about is if it supports RAW in 4K 60fps videos, and you answered some of that. What about photos? Are there any good 3rd party apps to cover this? And would those disable some of the other features offered in the stock camera app? Was thinking about Gcam or Open Camera or FilMic Pro. Thanks. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Xenupy:
It does support 4k@60 but only 4k@30 with log.

I attach some ps of filmic evaluator

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8C2X7oWAMJfYtTvj6

https://photos.app.goo.gl/B2FUBWRc6xhhr5J4A

There are no good third party app for this phone yet. Everyone is based in camera 2 api and have a lot of limitations. Some doesn't let you select ultra wide angle lens. Or the telephoto. Others don't let shoot raw.

No app let you shoot raw with the ultra wide angle (not even the Samsung native app). There is a problem report in Samsung forum.

https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5...ote10-5G/Wide-Angle-Pro-mode/m-p/1314489#M543

And no extra app let choose the shutter speed longer than 1/10s.

The samsung camera app don't let you choose what lens in pro mode do you want to use, so there is no chance of choose the shutter speed or ISO with the ultra wide angle or the telephoto.

There are a lot of limitations if you are a advanced user. But they are on track... the hardware is available, I'm guessing that the software can solve almost all the problems.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mafy31:
Samsung and Updates are words that do not match.

Unless you buy the next gen... :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mafy31:
Ok while I was writing this, a new Camera update appeared... V9.5.00.58

I could not see big differences... But I got some bug I could reproduce several times. When «pinch» zooming in Pro mode, my photo became all B and W with the subject Ca guitar) all green...!! But this guitar is redish in reality. Huge bug !!

Maybe when zooming it could be the result of TOF use? Because it looks like it.

Anyone is able to reproduce this also?

Will post samples later with settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] BCE111:
Thanks much. That's very helpful. ?I was watching a YouTube video yesterday too with a long discussion in the comments about saving files in RAW and whether it could and if 3rd party apps would let you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
I saw the camera update available, but for some reason I did not update, now I see here that it is buggy, I will wait to see how it works for some others
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mafy31:
OK so here goes my camera update 9.5.00.58 and its bug.

Note that in auto mode "Photo", it is okay and it seems slightly sharper to me (or more contrast ?) than what i previously had with the other software.

However, in PRO mode, that's a PITA.

I have been able to reproduce this like 1 attempt out of 3 at minimum... almost 50% of the time !

I think they added an ISO 50 and it might be where the problems are ? I need to test with other ISO.

Settings used :

ISO 50

A 0.3 F1.5

Settings Standard

AF : AUTO (point)

WB 5100K (Manual)

Bracketing 0.0

Photo "unzoomed" : OKAY

Photo "Zoom x2.8" : KO !!!!!!

The best example i have of this is this old crappy guitar. Unzoomed its colour is okay and REDISH. But if i zoom in without any other change in the settings, it becomes GREEN.

Want to thank the Samsung HarryPotter guy for this magical and incredible VR feature that changes automatically the colours of the environment.

Note that i did not change the settings between the 2 shots, only pinched zoom.

Edit : By the way i noticed that initial RAW is okay (the raw appears wide, and the final JPG green is the digital zoom-in that is applied in PRO mode). The problem is white balanced when we zoom in pro mode, for the JPG. I tried to increase to 6000K the WB and the result is same.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] mafy31:
Ohhhhhhh ! Nice surprise though with the new update !!!

I tried this evening, dark night.

Night shots are way better after the update.

These shots below have been taken in a dark night situation, from my sight, everything is black. I can almost see nothing outside besides the lights.

One shot is taken with photo mode auto and "Bixby half-moon" ON.

Second shot with auto photo mode, Bixby enhancement OFF.

Third shot is Night shot, hand held.

To me it looks like a nice improvement. Did not have such shots before.

Of course not very sharp because of darkness, but an improvement for sure. I can't wait to try it in town by night.