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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the Google Pixel 4 performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 4 keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Google Pixel 4 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Google Pixel 4 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Google Pixel 4's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Google Pixel 4 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

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[General Topics] ndininno:
How do you remove a program from a windows mobile 6 device that was not installed with a .cab file?

I installed iContact v0.2 and recently upgraded to a newer version. I can't seem to get rid of the old version being that it does not show in the list of programs to uninstall.
[General Topics] oldsap:
have you tried using a file explorer and manually deleting the file and it's folder from your phone?
[General Topics] ndininno:
Yes, I have. That's why I'm so confused.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Google Pixel 4 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Google Pixel 4 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Google Pixel 4 can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Google Pixel 4's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
has anyone had autofocus problems where the autofocus circle stays on the left side at 8x zoom
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] gpap2004:
The most difficult part of the phone, is settings. I think is little cluttered . You cannot dive in menus so easy and you cannot remember where you found something
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Google Pixel 4 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] johnny8910:
Not the fastest, but good enough when your in a hurry.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 4 before depleting the battery.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] johnny8910:
Getting an Average of 4.5-5.5 SOT.

Same as my SD855 S10
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Zlatty:
3 hours SOT here. 12 hour batter. Buyers beware.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] 3dd1:
I read a review saying if it didn't have such poor battery life it would be one of the best phones, though it is that bad it really holds the phone back.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jemeljsh:
Same as Pixel 3 and pretty much any other my phone in last few years - about 4h-5h of SOT every charge. Nothing drastic.

Usage pattern per day:

1. ~2h spotify BT stream (in car and to sony wh1000xm3);

2. Never on wifi;

3. Location/BT always ON;

4. 30-60min of youtube;

5. Whatsapp, spotify, youtube, waze, chrome.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Humayuncool:
Better battery than my S8. Around 4h-5h of SOT along with 26hrs of standby time on first charge. I am happy with the standby drain which was pretty bad with S8.

Usage pattern:

Motion sense off.

Tap to wake/Lift to wake on

Location always on.

Bluetooth for 3-4hours with Spotify streaming.

Whatsapp, Youtube, Facebook, Chrome all in the mix a bit.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jemeljsh:
yeaaaah...these battery horror stories on pixel 4/4xl are most definatelly overexaggerated. It always depends on the usage, but at least from my expierence and how I use phones almost every phone in last 3-4y gives me my 4-5h of sot..either its xiaomi 9t pro, oneplus 3-5, iphone x, xs max, pixel 2-3, galaxy s9+, its always the same..only phone I have gotten out more is my test phone Iphone 11 Pro .. that phone battery wise is simply amazing! probably the most I have gotten out of phone measuring one week+ of usage with 5-6 full charges, but I couldnt make it my daily driver since I find IOS just too boring + i really disliked the weight of iphone 11 pro in terms how it feels in hand (top part is disproportionally heavy) and limited in few key areas like quickly sharing stuff and so on..just not for me..IOS is ok for me only on tablets (ipad pro 11") ;)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Powergreb:
I started with Nexus 4, 5, 6P, Pixel, Pixel 2, Pixel 3 and now Pixel 4. Each iteration of phone provided improved battery life due to better software and better hardware. I was also worried about the battery life of Pixel 4 after reading so many articles about having a smaller battery. I am telling you this. All these articles were based on speculations, none were based on actual usages. I've never complaint about short SOT but always wished that standby drain can be controlled better and I'll explain. If you run a test of SOT when the battery is fully charged, you may get let's say 5 hours out of it but that is not meaningful. On real life usage you'll carry the phone with you 10 to 14 hours a day. While SOT usage varies between person to person, most of the battery were drained while the screen is off. Let's do a simple math here. If you can get 5 hours of SOT out of 100%, that means your phone consumes 20% per hour. On average my Pixel 3 was draining about 2% to 3% an hour with the screen off. In 10 hours I am down to about 75% which would provide 3 to 4 hours of screen time. With the Pixel 4, the standby drain is much better controlled, a big step over improvements over previous generations. I figure the standby drain is about 1% to 2%. In 10 hours I'm down to 85%. Even if the SOT is identical to Pixel 3, I will get at least half an hour more screen on time during real life usage.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] cswithxda:
Totally agree with your theory on standby drain. I carry two phones, one for personal use and one for work (iPhone). I'm always confident at leaving iPhone unplugged overnight but not for the Pixel. It barely drains 1% on the iPhone overnight. I wish one day we could see this on Android...

btw Pixel drains 10% to 20% overnight depending on its mood :(
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] dudaka:
Strange, mine drains 1-2% overnight
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
the drain is adaptive battery, Bluetooth and wifi scanning. turn those off, once you do, your Google Play services battery usage will be a lot lower.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] cswithxda:
Both BT and WIFI scanning are off. But adaptive battery is on. I thought it's meant to reduce the battery usage instead of drain the battery?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
turn it off and tell me how much better your battery is tomorrow. and if you want performance the way the pixel 4 and 3 were supposed to be, turn off digital wellbeing. it's better to delete it through adb, but just turn off usage access to try, restart your phone and be amazed.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
5h SOT over 15h

White theme, forced 90hz, adaptive brightness (34%-50%)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] backslashV:
how?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] dudaka:
Airplane mode
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Pixel 4 (smaller one) battery life

6h SOT over 16h

5% drain over 9h30m standby (phone placed with display down)

White theme, smooth display (force 90hz off), adaptive brightness (34%-50%)

Motion Sense off, AOD off, lift to check off, assistant voice match off, now playing on
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] backslashV:
All disabled yet I'm experiencing no difference in battery life. Same garbage 4 hour SoT.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
everybody uses their phones differently brotha. you should show a screenshot of your battery stats. if you have bad reception, there's no cure for that.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Mine drains 1-2% over night in a 8 hour period
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Google Pixel 4's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] johnny8910:
Really good standby drain for me. Around 0.7-1. %
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
The standby.. Everytime is different.

Sometimes i get 10% overnight. Sometimes 6%. Sometimes 7-8%. And last night 2% (for 7h).

Wifi always on, motion sense on, AOD off, adaptive battery on, phone flat on display
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
turn off adaptive battery and your standby time will be closer to the post before you
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Tried one night. It was about 8% for 8h..

And last night it drained 5% in 9h, with adaptive battery on
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
this is with 60hz.. check to see if wifi scanning is on. even if you turn it off and you use an app that asks you to turn location on like Google maps. if you hit yes it will automatically turn wifi scanning back on. I also turn off auto sync and sync things manually when I choose too.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Thanks for the reply.

How is going in prolonged standby? I've observed that when commuting it drains more battery. Even if i am using location history that's a bit too much, because most of the time i am not moving. I am just placing the phone on my desk.

Turning the wifi and Bluetooth scanning off are among the first things I do when i setup a device.

I need auto sync.

I've just turned off "mobile data always on" from developer options and will see if it helps or not.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
having location history on shouldn't affect the battery, it's just storing history.

it'll turn back on though if an app requests for location and you press yes. for ex. use Google maps and it'll probably ask for location to be turned on even if you have location on already. if you press yes it'll turn on wifi scanning.

I do the same. turning off mobile data always on should help.

the standby drain usually comes from play services, but it could also be an app that was downloaded. from my experience, it's usually play services.. yeah if you need autosync then it is what it is. because even if your phone is face down it's still going to use your cpu. it's probably better for you to turn adaptive battery on, but you should limit/restrict your apps manually, instead of letting it notify you when it thinks an app is running too much in the background. I know a pixel 3 user that was using adaptive battery with 30 apps restricted and it was working for him. I never restricted apps manually when I had adaptive battery on. that could be the reason adaptive battery never worked for me. my play services would be higher than 5%, sometimes even 15%-20% with it on. now I rarely go over 4%

these pics are from my 3. it also depends on your reception, there aren't any battery saving tips for that , except to put it in airplane mode.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
one more thing is to calibrate your battery. I understand that li-ion batteries don't have memory like nickel. but I think it something to do with the OS storing the battery capacity or something.

charge your phone to 100, drain it till it turns off. plug it in and charge it to 100. unplug turn it on and repeat the steps 1 more time. this helps especially on big updates.

the battery becomes more efficient and consistent. when I updated to 10 from pie my battery would drain quickly to like 50% and then below that it would slow down.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
I am roaming right now and connected to a WiFi network with dual band on the same SSID. It's frustrating how much the battery drains when idling!

7% loss in less than 2h completely idle..

From 95% to 88% in 1h40 of standby!

I have no access to the router to force it on a band, it keeps switching from 2.4ghz to 5ghz.

If i turn off wifi and leave mobile data on, then Google Play services is on top of the draining list.

I am starting to hate all these Android inconsistencies..
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
turn off your auto sync. it updates every 15 mind and keeps your phone from dozing. just manually sync it. it literally takes 6 clicks.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Man, it has literally nothing to do with auto sync.

I have battery issues both when using the phone and while standby.

The phone is getting annoying warm. That doesn't happen when i am home. Now i am using a different wifi connection.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Now home (different router, different SSID for each band) the wifi consumption seems normal and the phone doesn't heat anymore while using. That's so pity when you have no control to wireless router and you get into this situation! This seems to be related to Android, since i had the drain also on OnePlus 5.

Made a little test, when not in "doze mode" it consumes 2% each hour.

And overnight somewhere between 4-8% (random !?) for ~8h.

All standby times, no background tasks

Wifi & Bluetooth scanning off, motion sense off, idle screen (AOD) off, wifi on, location on, always on data off, Bluetooth on, tap to wake on, lift to wake on, now playing on, assistant voice match off
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] idees:
My battery drain reduced to 3% overnight (8+ hours sleep), with motion sense completely OFF
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
[MENTION=2664432]jalado[/MENTION] do you have any issue with Google play services or phone idle consuming a lot of battery?

I've attached a screenshot with battery usages.

I've already cleared Google play services data + cache yesterday (+ a reboot after about 30mins) before charging.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
no, my idle drain at night is like 1-2% over 6-8 hours. I don't have auto sync on though, so my phone stays asleep. your play services seems good for auto sync being on. mine's around 3% a day, if that.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
I will try to turn off auto sync overnight and see then.

I got 6% drain for ~8h overnight.

Btw, when home with wifi on i have no issues with Google play services battery drain. But when commuting and with data usage (being on mobile data about 2h of the time) the drain is high!

I have to test more and see if it's because location history, Google fit or mobile data. Or all..
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
So I've turned off auto sync overnight.

It drained 6% (70% -> 64%)... So for me the same drain :/.

Another thing that i am disappointed of is the Google Play Services when on mobile data (on idle/standby). I am on LTE with good coverage.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] netinetinet:
Use this

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...9&share_fid=3793&share_type=t&link_source=app

[APP][2.2+][05 Oct. - V2.4] BetterBatteryStats
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
That's what i am planing to do for weeks.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
turn off now playing.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Tested with now playing off few days ago, same drain (~6% for 8h, 60% -> 54%)

And yesterday I've turned off overnight Bluetooth, auto sync, wifi, data* via MacroDroid. And it drained 5% in 8h30m (87% -> 82%).

Looking with BBS i haven't discovered anything strange.

* Apparently MacroDroid cannot turn off data on rootless devices
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
yeah, idk. your head must be spinning trying to find all sorts of ways to get your drain down. i keep thinking it's one thing or another, but you end up proving me wrong lol.

I looked back at some of your screenshots. and it looks like you were actually in doze for around an hour.

the only thing I can think of is it's an app. cause your reception is good, you phone was dozing when you first charged(first screenshot). when my phone is in my pocket, it doesn't enable doze. all I know is when my phone is laying on a flat surface, doze enables

have you tried safe mode and seeing if you still have that much drain?

this is my battery from today.

notice the straight line for about 3-4 hours. I took my charger off around 11:00pm and started my day at 3:30am

my reception isn't even as good as yours. I could probably hit 10 hour sot with your reception. at work my reception is even worse. my phone switches from LTE+ to LTE to HSPA, depending where I am in the warehouse

I don't have any special apps to help me with standby/battery and whatever that macdroid is. try safe mode, it will disable your third party apps. and you see if you still have overnight drain.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
oh man, trust me it's so frustrating, I have this issue since years, i am remembering I've tried to tweak the standby drain on galaxy s6 edge (with no success lol).

heck, one night i even tried to disable tap to wake and reach to wake, but again no difference

Regarding apps. it's funny cos when i look with BBS i cannot see any app that's going crazy, Android System is always a top consumer, and when on mobile data, Google Services consumes a lot. I have to try with Safe Mode too, thanks for the idea.

But this night I wanna try with data usage off and see how it goes

Last night i forgot to turn off data usage, and got a 6% battery drain (71% -> 65%) with lte data on, wifi off, autosync off, bluetooth off, nfc off.

I use MacroDroid for tasks automation (eg: at 00:00 turn OFF: wifi, autosync, bluetooth, nfc; at 8:15 turn ON:wifi, autosync, bluettoht, nfc)

On mine doze works perfectly fine (confirmed by BBS too) when phone is still. When moving, as you already stated, it doesn't go in deep sleep, a lot of sensors being triggered. I am using Google Fit too and Location History.

I notice the straight line, but can you test it from below 80%? since the battery level is not linear, at least on mine i can go over 1h SOT from 90% to 90%, then after that it's less and less. From 50% below is even worse. From 5%-4% it drains literally in seconds, maybe less than 15 seconds.

Regarding SOT, i made one test with straight usage and 1 overnight, and got 6h SOT (i think it was with smoot display on, force 90hz off. But brightness was not high, so the refresh rate was mostly at 60hz).

I have to keep disabling force 90hz because, unfortunately, it drains a bit too much and it heat up the device a little.

I've observed that you have mobile data disabled. Don't you use data at all or have you disabled "Mobile data always active" from Developer options?

PS: wow man, you get really early for work. i get up at 8am and something and still feels too early for me :D
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
what is bbs? maybe thats the best your gonna get with your type of usage, cause youre using google fit too, i dont use that. you use androids a.i. software where as i dont. i manually adjust screen brightness and everything else. everything is manually done for me. heres a list of whats disabled on my phone and i might miss some. the settings that cause idle drain are highlighted in bold

Disabled:

-bluetooth

-nfc

-printing services

-always on display

-adaptive battery(drains battery)

-adaptive brightness(drains battery uses more cpu cause of constant adjustments from the a.i.)

-screen timeout 30 sec

-ambient eq

-smooth display( just either use 60hz or 90hz) for me ive been using the latter

-now playing deleted(which is pixel ambient display app)

-ok google hotword

-all vibration off

-wifi and bluetooth scanning(big idle battery drainer)

-google location accuracy,sharing, history off

-digital wellbeing

-flip to shhh

-lift to check

-motion sense(drains battery from you waking your phone + accidental wakes)

-auto sync(big idle drain)

-backup(idle drain)

-automatic system updates

-mobile data always active(having both radios on will use more cpu and drain extra battery)

-all animations to .5x

i showed you on page 1 that it goes into deep sleep way past 80% and it still does that. if youre draining that much in a short period of time your battery probably needs to be calibrated. my battery gets even better when it goes to the lower percentages. i dont use dark mode either.

yes i use lte when outside, not when im at home since i watch alot of videos and my data is only 10 gigs. the first page screenshot is 60hz with lte untill i got home which was around 60% post #6. post #8 is from my pixel 3 and this was all lte.

be patient and wait a couple days. dont just make a change and expect to see results right away instead wait at least 2 days and then observe. like i said all i use is the graph and apps usage you dont need all those third party apps. stop using the a.i. for google and third party and then test. stop being lazy.. I just change settings accordingly by myself instead of letting the a.i. do it.