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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
Tried the new rootfs and I think it broke more things. Couldn't get google maps to find my location in the one place it worked before.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
is there anything else that is now broken? Can you test phone calls in/out, text messaging in/out, and data in/out? Thank you...

SMS out may not work until you get the newest rootfs from 5 mins ago, it was unreliable on my phone...

I will look at the network location issue you mentioned tomorrow.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Rootfs

I have send a SMS to myself. It was send and I received it.

I tested GPS. This is working for me.

Then I have a question about rootfs.img.

Do I have to put this file in the root of my SD card? Do I need more than only rootfs.img that this file is being used by Android?

Why could we run Android before without having rootfs in the root and do we need it now?

To all who have the same question (I have found it already):

initrd.gz 'uses' rootfs.img. Both files can be found on the download site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I'm not yet acquainted with the new layouts yet like the rootfs and where the swap is created so I'm not sure what takes precedence, etc. Does anyone have a breakdown of that?

Also, passing this along:

Android Live-CD you can run in a virtual machine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Just got 16GB class 4 card, no problems with Android whatsoever. Though before loading Android files card was fully reformatted into FAT32 with default cluster size in a card reader on Big Brother.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
Hmm this runs way slow on my device and sms isn't working. What versions of init and zimage are u guys running?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Just reporting in, wifi is working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mike233:
with the new rootfs.img and initrd, the 7/23 ion build finally connects to data automatically without using the modem app! The initial call (i.e. to voicemail) upon booting is no longer needed either (if this was an issue to anyone else).

one thing though - I really like the new hero/herolite build, except for the resolution. 320x480 is very difficult to see on my phone (KAIS100). Previous hero builds used to look great using 320x428 res (which I find to run fastest and look the best), but this build will keep replaying the splash screen 320x428 resolution is set.

Has anyone found a way to run hero without 320x480 resolution?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Yeah, that was something I also discovered today.

I was reading and testing WIFI and that worked. But mobile data connection was not started automatically. I have an unlimited data connection, so WIFI is not that important for me. So, back to this version.

Sorry, cannot tell you something about the resolution.

My question stays as I wrote before: do people have a mobile data connection with the Hero-build?

I cannot manage a stable data connection.

Looking forward to receive some answers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
I have a stable data connection with Hero build from Zenulator. Sometimes I have to use modem app, but it works fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
Hero build Testing

ROM: Latest Hero full from our google code.

Rootfs: Latest 8-4

Initrid: Latest

zImage: Latest 8-3 or earlier Don't know exact date.

Phone: Kaiser (100) GSM

Memory: 8gb class 6

Calls - First incoming froze and locked up phone. After making outgoing call was able to receive incoming. Was unable to answer from sleep mode. The incoming calls do not interface with contacts, it just shows the number and then asks to save after call.

SMS - Gives error message of cannont send when sending message. Message does send though and so far unable to tell if losing any of them.

GPS - Appears to work fine.

Data - Works fine for me. Has seemed to run a little faster then Zenulators.

Location Services - Does not acquire location anymore. Even in locations that it worked before.

Market - seems to run slow data isn't as quick as in other builds when downloading.

Music - says sd card is missing. Did a fresh Fat32 reformat last night. After building data file with Zenulators Hero I was able to use that file with this build and Music works now.

Let me know if you want me to test any other things. Thanks for all the work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Hero is about to work with wifi. Uno momento. Will post here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
Hmmm.

Well I don't seem to be having any luck booting into Android at all now. I reformatted my 2GB memory card (twice) and copied over the newest files (haret.exe, initrd.gz, system.img (mssmisonsystem), rootfs.img, zImage, new default.txt and the media directory).

Go in to run haret then it just hangs on the 'Booting Linux' screen after the bar makes it to 100%. I could try changing the board type, but I'm not even getting far enough to see a white flashing screen.

Sometimes I wish I had the money I'd just buy an android phone. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
WIFI & Data

Hello Devs,

I wanted to say thanks for all your hard work!!!

ok, now in my latest download of zImage and rootfs from today with then the last hour I am having issue with stable data connection it connect then disconnect even through the signal is strong

I don't know if the new zImage included the wifi stuff that people are talking about so I try to turn it on and it is unable to turn on wifi

One question throw, is mic working for program that are like the voice memo or voice search ? I don't seem to have these working on my phone

other wise for the things I use the phone its looking great.

PS: is there a IRC that I can go to get help with getting HardSPL on my phone?

Sincerely,

Christopher

kasier100

att rom / radio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Once I got rid of the data.gz and extracted the resources into the media folder, it was able to read the sdcard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
What happened with this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
I was wondering the same thing. Right after the post a new zImage showed up but it didn't change anything for me as far as I can tell.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
Packaged Build

http://rapidshare.com/files/263887324/Android_7_27_2009_Kaiser.zip

This is a beta wifi package for Kaiser. The date is the data of the system.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
link is not working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
here's a link but im sure new files will come out fast

http://www.mediafire.com/file/n5zyancxnzq/Android_kaiser+Wifi.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
try http://www.przeklej.pl/ for files - free and no restrictions for download.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
thnx. just tried it. dsnt work out of the box. will read up and see what needs to be setup tonight.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Great, great, great:D:D

Wlan works for me without problems, i can connect to the network on my work and surf in the internet, really great work guys. Step by step we come closer to a fully working android port
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
Last rootfs/zimage/bundle (in vogue-android page) does not work with wifi for me. Wifi doesn't get enabled.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
everything works .. i can make calls ... i can receive SMS

but i CANT send SMS :(

dont know why ...

its always worked... since the last 2 / 3 builds the sms stoped sending :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
now where would the fun be in doing that? :)

dzo, I'll send you the dmesg for polaris when i get home.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Latest Update - Today

Hello Devs,

Thanks for the work devs

OK, I just installed the latest build of ION bundle with out a old data store.

This is what I have found, on first boot the phone signal goes on and off every few sec and when its on it shows half the bars for me.

when turning on wifi it is unable to turn it on

some things as before goes for data, it goes on and off like the phone signal

I am very thrilled with auto data NO need to add APN or put in startup.txt now wonderful

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I hope everyone here complaining about wifi unable to start is not trying the builds that aren't for it.

This is they
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
I think you didn't see the new bundle in google-code page. We are trying to get wifi with that bundle, but maybe it doesn't work with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Are you talking about vilord's? So many google-code pages. The one I put in the link is ION and I think it's the same and there is now a Hero build that I'm about to test. Should all be the same builds but there are instructions on adding wifi to at least ION.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
yep, i was talking about vilord's one. The point is that it should be possible to include or merge all files needed to not need to get calibration and romdump files, just like they did with gps. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
btw, once done the calibration thing, wouldn't it be possible to use that files in zenulator's image (i.e.)? What changes are needed in the img file to "read" the calibration files?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I don't know if it's officially done yet but they are at least about to make it uneccessary to extract the calibration file. It's not difficult (once you have a step-by-step at least :)) to add it to a build but unless you want to grab the ones that work or want to do it yourself, you'll need to wait. Shouldn't be long before it gets incorporated but who knows how data/gps/whatever will be affected.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BlackBsd:
I am also seeing issues with the phone signal going on and off, with only half bars showing. My data connection was not working, but i think it may be because the phone signal going up and down.

I will also start testing the other problems that ppl are having in here such as SMS not sending, incomming calls not working unless you have made a call first and such. I will report back later.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
tryed everything and i cant send sms :(

anyone has the same problem ?

what could be the cause ?

i can recieve and make calls.. but send sms doenst work..

i think that is not pulling some important information from my network that permits so send sms...

maybe sms service number or something ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I am so lost trying to get this wifi working, guess I'll just have to wait for the plug and play version unless someone would like to explain in detail for those of use that are confused on how to get this working
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
Sure thing bro.

1. Download all the files neccessary, which are initrd-wifi.gz, zimage-wifi, and system-nk-2009-07-27-wifi.img (get these from here http://drop.io/wifikaiser ) you will also need rootfs.zip (extract rootfs.img and move to root sd) from here http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list . last of all you will need getrom from here http://drop.io/calibrationfiles. rename initrd-wifi.gz to initrd.gz, zimage-wifi to zimage and system-nk-2009-07-27-wifi.img to system.img and move to root of sd (replace all your current files, but i would make a backup of your current files incase you need those later)

2. boot up android, if having problems maybe try a clean data.gz? mine worked fine with my existing data.img. once android boots open dev tools and then terminal emulator on the bottom. in the terminal type

su

cd sdcard

./getrom

your phone will put a space and sit looking like its doing nothing for 5 to 10 minutes, then it will list out all the files on your sdcard. at this point shut down and reboot to winmo, then back into android and you should have working wifi :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Thanks but I did just find an entirely different thread with this info in it is there someone that can change the first post of this thread and the android wiki to reflect all the new changes with links
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Hi ibanezbass

So what is the differents between all the files you say download and the bundle that is on google.com for the vogue-android area?

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Those are the steps needed to get wifi working. The wiki is freely editable but then you'd have the same info in 3 places. They're working to not require the getrom script but it's not like it's too much to do for now-- certainly easier than having you git and recompile the source like they had to.

The difference between the files posted and those on Google-code are that, as the file names state, they have wifi working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Hello enatefox,

So I just want to make sure I am understand this, the very first bundle that shows at http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list which says in () kaiser wifi does not have the working wifi correct?

thanks for the assistance in understanding which one is the good ones, I only ask as thats where I have been download stuff from and wanted to still follow that area, also so you know I have wifi working with the walk through posted two or three post back

thanks for the timeless and tireless work that has gone into this porting.

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I think that's the same one but I didn't upload it. It says wifi so I assume it's the same build just that he has made it a bundle. I've been running jtalemal's (Hero) with wifi and don't think I can give up SenseUI.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
great wifi works, picks up networks pretty quickly also alot better than winmo for me. I have the ION build working, I have tried the Hero build but It just locks up, where did you get yours at enatefox
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toubeau:
working perfectly with WEP and WPA using ibanezbass method: here
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Here based off of this: http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/.

Zenulator posted yesterday that he's going to wait a couple days then post a new one with all of the widgets. Then, assuming he doesn't enable wifi, either I, newbie16, etc. will add what's needed. Although newbie16 did say he's got the process automated for those who fear extracting calibration files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Thats the one I just downloaded am in the process of copying over to phone will test soon,. after having the process explained to me I thought it was quite simple getting that stuff extracted but my question is will it stick with all new builds as long s I keep them files or does it need redone every time I update to a newer version of android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
Data problems in WinMo?

When I woke up today, I found that my data connection wasn't working and hadn't been for around 3 hours. I tried toggling the data connection, toggling airplane mode, soft reboot and a hard reboot, but nothing worked!

Then I began trying out the latest ION build from the vogue-android google code site. The signal kept going from 2 bars to no signal so I shut it down and rebooted into WinMo, after which my data is working fine now!

I don't know if these issues are related, but it might have something to do with the hero builds I've been testing. The data connection on all the hero builds I've tried has been very very flaky, going up and down randomly and rarely ever being stable.

Now I don't know nearly as much as some of you guys here, just wanted to let you know in case anyone else is having similar problems.

FYI, I'm running stock AT&T Tilt, updated with AT&T's WM6.1 update for the Tilt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
garringm, that will be the case unless they are specifically stating wifi is working AFAIK. Vilord's build for 8-4 states it but I don't know if he modded it or took it from the other. That goes samesies for Hero. Newbie16 I believe made it work (or at least he posted it). Zenulator's about to drop a new build with all of the HTC widgets probably tomorrow so assume that wifi doesn't work unless it's stated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Wifi works. Seems sluggish. The whole android is slow now >.>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Me getting crazy :-)

I tried to run the Hero build several times. I used the ZIP-file from 'enatefox' (http://http://drop.io/calibrationfiles).

I do not get a working data connection. When Android starts, it asks me to connect data. Then I see the 3G icon in the notification bar. The arrows do not light up and when I start the browser, I also have no success. After a while the 3G icon disappears and there is no way to get it back.

In the Hero build I cannot find the Modem application.

To enable Wifi, I also cannot find the Terminal. I do not know how to run 'getrom'.

Anyone having suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
dev tools > teminal emulator

You mean the Hero build I linked to? Was made by newbie16, should probably mention it here
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rfarnell:
Hi guys just to let you know that Android worked first time on my HTC Tytn II using the 1.71.0.91 radio and ROMeOS v4 ROM with 3D drivers from my SDHC card.

Didn't know if any of this information would be useful to you all that was produced from the GLbenchmark results using the new 3D drivers:

OpenGL ES Environment Variables

GL_VENDOR	QUALCOMM, Inc.

GL_VERSION	OpenGL ES-CM 1.0

GL_RENDERER	Q3Dimension MSM7500 01.02.01 0 4.0.0

GL_EXTENSIONS	GL_OES_byte_coordinates GL_OES_read_format GL_OES_fixed_point GL_OES_single_precision_commands GL_OES_compressed_paletted_texture GL_OES_matrix_palette GL_OES_point_sprite GL_OES_point_size_array GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_ATI_texture_compression_atitc GL_ATI_extended_texture_coordinate_data_formats GL_OES_draw_texture

GL_RED_BITS	5

GL_GREEN_BITS	6

GL_BLUE_BITS	5

GL_ALPHA_BITS	0

GL_DEPTH_BITS	16

GL_STENCIL_BITS	0

GL_SUBPIXEL_BITS	2

GL_MAX_LIGHTS	8

GL_IMPLEMENTATION_COLOR_READ_FORMAT_OES	6407

GL_IMPLEMENTATION_COLOR_READ_TYPE_OES	33635

GL_MAX_MODELVIEW_STACK_DEPTH	16

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_STACK_DEPTH	2

GL_MAX_PROJECTION_STACK_DEPTH	2

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE	1024

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS	2

GL_MAX_PALETTE_MATRICES_OES	48

GL_MAX_VERTEX_UNITS_OES	4

GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_WIDTH	640

GL_MAX_VIEWPORT_HEIGHT	480

GL_NUM_COMPRESSED_TEXTURE_FORMATS	10

GL_ALIASED_LINE_WIDTH_MIN	1

GL_ALIASED_LINE_WIDTH_MAX	1

GL_ALIASED_POINT_SIZE_MIN	1

GL_ALIASED_POINT_SIZE_MAX	32

GL_SMOOTH_LINE_WIDTH_MIN	1

GL_SMOOTH_LINE_WIDTH_MAX	1

GL_SMOOTH_POINT_SIZE_MIN	1

GL_SMOOTH_POINT_SIZE_MAX	32

EGL Native Platform Graphics Interface

EGL Vendor	ATI Technologies, Inc.

EGL Version	__EGLI__VERSION_MAJOR.__EGLI__VERSION_MINOR 2.07.050110.34681

EGL Extensions	EGL_QUALCOMM_COLOR_BUFFER

EGL Selected Configuration

EGL_CONFIG_ID:	3

EGL_BUFFER_SIZE:	16

EGL_ALPHA_SIZE:	0

EGL_BLUE_SIZE:	5

EGL_GREEN_SIZE:	6

EGL_RED_SIZE:	5

EGL_DEPTH_SIZE:	16

EGL_STENCIL_SIZE:	0

EGL_CONFIG_CAVEAT:	12344

EGL_LEVEL:	0

EGL_MAX_PBUFFER_HEIGHT:	0

EGL_MAX_PBUFFER_PIXELS:	0

EGL_MAX_PBUFFER_WIDTH:	0

EGL_NATIVE_RENDERABLE:	0

EGL_NATIVE_VISUAL_ID:	0

EGL_NATIVE_VISUAL_TYPE:	12344

EGL_SAMPLES:	0

EGL_SAMPLE_BUFFERS:	0

EGL_SURFACE_TYPE:	5

EGL_TRANSPARENT_TYPE:	12344

EGL_TRANSPARENT_BLUE_VALUE:	0

EGL_TRANSPARENT_GREEN_VALUE:	0

EGL_TRANSPARENT_RED_VALUE:	0

Device Information

Device Name	Kaiser

Device ID	570118490110

Platform Name	PocketPC

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CPU Name

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Just because its has more apps and you like it, you think its going to be easier to port?

Then by all means, go ahead.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dwaradzyn:
cijoml is right here. Android uses Linux kernel. Most of the porting process focuses only on Linux kernel and is not related directly to Android. The same Linux kernel can be used to run other Linux distributions like Angstrom-console. In order to get GPE or OPIE working on Kaiser the only thing that has to be done is make X server working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
Xserver uses GPE, OPIE needs just framebuffer

http://opie.handhelds.org

http://gpe.handhelds.org
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
And there is Angstrom OPIE image available also ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
you can't compare porting android userspace stuff and gpe/opie/openmoko since the latter three are open source software

why is the thread not sticky anymore? Is that automatic?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] austinsnyc:
Maybe because the moderators don't think running Linux on kaisers is important? Or maybe its something else :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dwaradzyn:
I stand corrected. Does that mean that Kaiser (and Polaris) is already capable of running OPIE?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
yeah i think it's automatic, but can be overwritten manually. Should ask someone to sticky it. We're almost off the first page. Makes it a pain to search for.

Xmoo, when are you coming back?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
10 more days my friend.

Will leave L.A. the 10th and be home the 11th.