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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
try moving the intrd to your root as well....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michel82:
place all files in the root off your card and you should be fine
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michel82:
New experimental 1.1 boots fine. Screen doesn't look as sharp as the previous version, maybe some scaling tweaking needs to be done. It's fairly usefull for us polaris people without a keyboard though, i cannot get passed the initial setup without setting up a google account.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
This is so cool, setting it up worked after correct APN settings using the menu/button in the setup screen! will keep testing...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
Im not sure what you mean.. lol

but i tried moving initrd.gz to the root and now i get the error

FAILED TO LOAD FILE\STORAGE CARD\ANDROID\INITRD.GZ

hmm:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michel82:
You should have all the files you now have inside your android folder moved to the root of your SD. Edit your default.txt so that both kernel and initrd point to the root like this:

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
Well i moved all the files from the Android folder to the root,and it edited the default.txt and now it starts to boot,

But i get the Failed to mount system again..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
YES !

@DZO: THANKS MAN!!!!!

I have got your version running with data connection.

I configured my Google account. It was accepted, but it does not synchronize (or do I have that much email, calendars and contacts :D)

I do miss Spare Parts, because I set the end key to 'First home, then sleep'.

Incoming call is coming in, but no sound. When the other side disconnected, the phonescreen stayed and the call in progress time was running.

Calling in for a second time worked. Outgoing call also worked.

Gmail is still synchronizing.

Agenda did not sync also.

WIFI is not working

BT is not working

This is very NICE :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
The market doesn´t seem to work... in this version I am able to download apk´s from the andappstore. Minesweeper looks like it fits the screen!

It all is indeed a bit blurry, a bit slower, but it fits! Finally the music player shows what it should show!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Rename SYSTEM.IMG to system.img and try that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
This new package works very well, there are a few shortcomings though, The screen is a bit blurry (though I was expecting that to happen) When booting it stick at "Waiting for ppp" for a few lines. Power and charging indicators still work, screen rotation is still proper, everything is a little bit slower, I am however stuck at the sign in screen as it does not appear to connect which is where my testing ends for now... :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
As I wrote before, I have a data connection.

I changed the cmd line (below for Tmobile-NL, use your APN settings):

- ppp.apn=www.vodafone.net.nz changed to ppp.apn=internet

- ppp.username=none, deleted none

- ppp.password=none, deleted none

When in the configscreen in Android, click menu key. Click APN settings and set APN as it is for you.

I deleted all * and null at MMSC. I changed MCN/MMC to 204 / 20, because this is needed for Tmobile.

Hope this helps others.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
Well matter of fact i changed it to lower case;then i checked to see how big it was,8.6mb when the original was like 36mb so i deleted the small one and added a fresh system.img and tried to boot,,,IT BOOTED!,like a charm.

* I just want to say thanks for the help and i will continue to test the builds as they come out!:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
hmmm hidden menu stuff... i never think about that sort of thing. :D

I'm attempting to try it again.

-- did not work the first time, trying again, and also trying some of the older methods to get it to work.

-- I seem to not have any luck with the AT&T APN settings set in either default.txt or the APN settings menu, or even both. Anyone else on AT&T (east coast maybe?) have this working correctly? or a way to bypass?

The APN settings i am using are from one of my earlier posts.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3188567&postcount=2059
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nikki2beeps:
I dont know how much it would matter but im using at&t data and the only thing i see missing from your default.txt is ppp.apn=wap.cingular in your set cmd line.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
It is added in the default.txt. maybe it is just me and my area right now.

I believe that it is due to the fact that android isnt (and has not been able to in the past) able to establish a connection on its own without togga.

Edit: The new zimage is the cause of the waiting for ppp messages, also no luck with an older zimage (with working data.)

Edit2: an older system.img with the new zimage works with data, but needs togga. Which leads me to believe that for some reason my tilt is not auto connecting on data without help from a tool like togga.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
experimental hangs in HaRET

I just replaced all my files EXCEPT default.txt with those in the expeirimental package form dzo.

When I try to boot, HaRET freezes at the end of the bar.

I looked at the default.txt that came with the experimental package and actually it looks the same except the end seems like its messed up it goes....

which looks to me like two statements and one isn't commented out fully?

what should I be changing?

My default.txt ending looks like this

edit....

well now I can clearly see the first one is edited out fully. and also that I need to add this to my cmdline

mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480

that does it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hypest:
specially cooked rom?

Not sure if someone else has suggested something like this, but maybe Dutty, or an other chef, would be so kind to invest some time to cook a really slim version of the rom that makes Haret work most of the time. The aim of that slim rom would be to maximize the free ram space available to Haret, so to leave aside the rom/ram related issues as much as possible for the time being and focus on the kernel and zImage...

volunteers? Anyone? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
Duttys LITE version is pretty Light
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hypest:
hm, maybe I've lost some episodes, is there a Lite variant of Dutty's May-22 Test Version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
The newest rom is also very stable with haret and android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
http://www.4shared.com/file/5014382..._WM61_5219700_Hybrid_V2_1_651406_LiteV2_.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hypest:
slovoflud: thanx for the link. I'm aware of these past LITE variants of Dutty's rom (I think the one you linked is the Apr29's).

I was referring specifically to May22's since that one is "proposed" as a Haret-stable one in the #1 post of this thread. Anyway, as shadowline has just suggested, there are other roms that seem to run Haret quite well. So, perhaps there is no need for a special LITE variant of Dutty's May22 rom afterall...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cliffaraki:
How to upload application

I'm creating an application based on Google's SDK. I want to upload this to the device as an application to run. How do I do this? If you got any information that would be great!!!

This is an awesome SITE!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Look back a couple posts to how to open an initrd file, but as to how to get it in and running completely, I still have not done personally. (but I also have not read info on it anywhere or read the user manual so to speak...:rolleyes: lol)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
So any developements?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Praygo:
Has anyone successfully made a phone call on an android kaiser yet? What is the biggest breakthrough?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
No, they havent. The last two pages talk about that. The lattest Android version is set for CDMA and have not found a GSM version of it as of yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Followed the ttu to the letter, whatd i do wrong?

Also it says that it cant find the htckaiser default config

make: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found
CHK include/linux/version.h
make[1]: `include/asm-arm/mach-types.h' is up to date.
CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
CC arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s
/bin/sh: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: not found
make[1]: *** [arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 127
make: *** [prepare0] Error 2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] syphern:
I just wanted to say you guys are the most amazing bunch of people! So far Android works well! I cant believe it, a few tweaks (i dont know what im talking about) and im sure you guys can map everything perfectly so it can run as intended!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
Did you pass the CROSS_COMPILE variable correctly so it is the path to your toolchain prefix?

If you toolchain was in /media/lol/ you would put CROSS_COMPILE = /media/lol/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-

(assuming your toolchain prefix is arm-none-linux-gnueabi-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Oh...

Lol, my stuffs in ~/android not ~/android-kernel wow that makes a differnce, how did i not catch that?

Anyways, that was configuring on the xda-default config, can you post your htckaiser_defconfig file for me? Mine seems to be missing...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
New Z

Freshly compiled new Z,

With the latest git repository
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
Does this change anything of note?

Edit: I loaded it up anyway... Things seem.. smoother and more responsive if that's possible, might be placebo effect or something
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
I

Dont

Know

But hey, try it out! All I did was compile with the latest Git
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] boog316:
Will check it out. Great work thus far!!! :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
It freezes on me too. I just tried with a freshly formatted FAT32 microSD card, modified the default.txt to match the data settings and kept everything else, and only 1 Android app (Nitro Touchdown). Haret freezes with a full progress bar stating "HaRET: Booting Linux..."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
that blur is disgusting, but I get why you did it.

Hopefully some of the cupcake development will bring good qvga stuff..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I wonder if it is possible that when the qvga stuff works, have it use the scale down method on non resolution aware applications so they too can still work? I'm not sure how it works but it is just a thought.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
lies - one time a while back it worked, and promptly stopped working.

anyway, toggle.sh *should* work, but even that isn't, it seems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
that would require an android scale-down instead of a kernel one... good idea, though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
hey... did anyone notice that the framebuffer flips upside-down when the device is open?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Yea I noticed that too. And when I was talking about the data auto connecting, I meant that for just me. None of the builds I tried ever actually worked without using togga to connect first.

I am trying it again with an older kaiser that I have.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
File is currently being uploaded to my space, browse my sig to find it, or try http://aximilation.com/xdaspace/kaiser_files/android-kaiser-experimental.zip , off the top of my head I think that's where it's going to be. It should be available after 5:50 PST.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
1.1 expeirimental package

so there is no way in then, you must log on but you cannot with out togga, which you cant run until you log on. Is this correct? Thats the way it seems for me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nato2k:
I am able to connect without togga no problem. I just deleted the existing APN's and added a new one with the AT&T settings.

I have the ppp.apn ppp.username and ppp.password in my cmdline.

I also wasnt able to download from the marketplace although I was able to access and browse through it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Are you on a 3G connection area? and is HSDPA enabled in windows mobile? Rom and Radio versions? when booting do you get the "waiting for ppp" messages?

Also my second older tilt did not boot at all, it was running a very old radio and rom (duttys) so im not too surprised.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nato2k:
I am in a 3G area and HSDPA is enabled in WM.

Rom is PDACorner 18

Radio is 1.71.09.01

I do get the waiting for ppp messages. When the google sync came up it couldnt establish a connection. I hit the menu key and put in all of the APN settings and i got the G icon up top and tried the google sync again. both ^v arrows lit up and it logged me in. I did not have to run togga, connection was flawless for the remainder of the time using android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
I followed nato2k's lead and was able to connect no problem!

Could browse the marketplace, but couldn't download anything. Sync doesn't seem to work, though the data arrows indicate activity. Maybe it takes a long while to sync the first time?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Thank you, the only thing for me that is different is I am in a non (read as crappy) 3G area, so I guess I will try again when I get to a real 3G area.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
that works

ok i can get in now

IM seems to work

gmail does not download

youtube flips the screen the wrong way, and then goes black, plays audio

voice search does not work

internet does

appstore (same as already listed) can browse but not download

calendar app runs but did not get my events

contacts not synced.

It is fuzzy, but I could deal with it if everything else worked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
post the default text

can you post your default text because i had the same problem haret booting and freezing at the end of the full barbut im not sure how to fix this issue
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
@ silasrye What did you do to get it working? The steps? or the 3G/2G thing?

And can anyone else confirm they are running this build on AT&T in a 2G only area?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
It works

my 3G is not reliable, but I guess ive got it. in WM there is no G in the title bar (im not sure PDAcorner does that though)

my default.txt is

at the start after sync fails i press menu

then I changed the apn settings (where it used to say android) to this

then it worked (i can remember the exact sequence but just follow any prompts)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
thanks

got it working now such great communication love you guys

tested calls working nicely
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Oddly enough I have the same settings, EXCEPT i had the name still on android. no G icon either. but changing it to "AT&T" seemed to have changed something.. I now have the "G" icon and am able to log in....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] he_chu:
Guys, from this web page, there says:

HaRET freezes at 100% is related with ROM/radio version.

It recommend radio version 1.65.24.xx or 1.71.xx.xx.

I'am not sure if it's confirmed, but my 1.65.14.06 often freezes randomly.

Please refer to section "Troubleshooting":

http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
My report on this build.

Initial problems were a non properly set up APN. (well improperly named.)

The screen is a little blurry for the fact of the scale down.

Data works

SMS works

Calls untested

Power collapse works

Charging works

Onto applications:

Downloads DO NOT work. (same as previous builds)

Market works

IM works

gmail never downloads

music works as you can now see it all

youtube does not play video.

Most other apps install and work now aswell.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@nato2k: When you are in your 3G area, do you also see 3G in the top bar or only G?

My phone uses G and 3G, just which signal is stronger. On a movie from Android I saw 3G in the top bar. So I do not know when I am connected to 3G or G :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
Calls worked fine for me. Still can't get twitdroid to install.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Android settings for NL providers (source: pdashop.nl)

Vodafone

Name: vodafone

APN: live.vodafone.com

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username: vodafone

Password: vodafone

Server: not set

MMSC: http://mmsc.mms.vodafone.nl

MMS Proxy: not set

MMS Port: not set

MCC: 204

MNC: 04

APN Type: default

Orange

Name: Orange internet

APN: internet

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username: not set

Password: not set

Server: not set

MMSC: http://mms.orange.nl:8002

MMS Proxy: 10.250.255.183

MMS Port: 9201

MCC: 204

MNC: 20

APN Type: default

Telfort

Name: Telfort Spot

APN: internet

Proxy: 193.113.200.195

Port: 9201

Username: not set

Password: not set

Server: not set

MMSC: not set

MMS Proxy: 193.113.200.195

MMS Port: 9201

MCC: 204

MNC: 20 (20 according pdashop, I think MNC is 12)

APN Type: default

KPN

Name: Mobiele startsite

APN: internet

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username: not set

Password: not set

Server: not set

MMSC: not set

MMS Proxy: not set

MMS Port: not set

MCC: 204

MNC: 08

APN Type: default
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Just put a new zip on my site

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/android-kaiser-21-02-09.zip

This is the same as the experimental zip but with an updated system.img syncing should work now and the initial setup is optional.

Gmail works for me but I still can't get market to download.

This is still not ready for full time use because pm doesn't work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
When I am at home I have only EDGE service available, and with the more recent builds it has been working. I tend to need to run TOGGA again even if I was connected in town on 3G and then left the phone on and drove home.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Great, I am gonna go throught extensive testing now.

By the way is there another way for scalling? How is this implemented in WinMo for example? because it works on any resolution flawlessly, so why Android seems to be made only for HVGA?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hellmasterita:
Very GOOD work only 1 problem Media player not working on any video
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
Wrong

winmo does not scale

try running a diamond (640x480) app on kaiser (320x240)

.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
So it means, that every mobile has its own version of the system? :eek:

That is even more funny than I thought :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelkordek:
great work dzo! is there any chance to add cupcake softkeyboard and more languages ??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
MIRROR: http://biggestpos.com/android/android-kaiser-21-02-09.zip

WGET is still working as of this post, so give it a few minutes to finish.

OK its done. For some reason I get 380K a sec to my shell, and only ~60k a second to here at the office. Strange :)

UPDATE: Google login attempts to sign-in for several minutes and then says there is a problem. The browser is working fine however, in fact, it seems that it connected itself on boot?

UPDATE: I can actually load the gmail tab on the default homepage now. This is a first for me. The "Spare Parts" application where you can change the "end button behaviour" to "Home, Then Sleep" is no longer there? Is this an APK file I can just copy to my android apps folder or is it in the img file ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
This is wonderfull, I am not saying anything about blurred screen, it does not seem to be that bad :) But I must say, taht everything I've tried so far works perfectly.

I had to boot without signing to setup APN in android settings, than reboot and since that everything works like charm. I can see my mails, I can get my callendr and contacts synced...

I am loving it more and more... DZO, if I can help in any way, just let me know... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sisqo:
hello dzo.

i've installed android-kaiser-experimental 02/19/09 on my kaiser, but i can't setup it without a internet connection? can I use the usb cable to share the internet from my pc to kaiser and connect? any help would be welcome, thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] markya23:
Excellent! Everything is brilliant except contacts don't sync (e-mail does), and I can't download Apps from the market place ('Download Unsuccessful'). PM seems to be iffy but could be a dodgy connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Smultie:
Any people that couldn't use the phone to call, got any succes with the more recent versions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I think the SDK can only show the G icon. On the G1 it indeed shows 3G...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Sweet... contact/calendar/gmail syncing!! Delayed Key Press repeating!! No more togga!!

Looks really good...

Actually I dont mind the scaling for the added screen space... If we can get the andoird market working... we'll be in great shape.

Keep up the amazing work devs!

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
I will try a different ROM, but the same ROM works without the 'experimental' build. I've used the same 1.71.x.x radio for quite some time without issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
Fantastic

Things are working great, for me there are just two points left before I'm using this as a primary OS,

1. app market downloads working (big one for everybody i think)

2. Stereo bluetooth a2dp/avrcp stuff, i use my phone as my media player right now (i might be in a minority with that one)

Not making requests or anything, just saying its VERY close to time to switch.

of course gps would be nice, but I use it so seldom It wouldn't be too annoying rebooting into windows mobile when I need it.

I have a question, once this is really running, if we got it completely flashed and booting on its own as a WM replacemnt, would that improve performance at all?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sisqo:
how can i bypass the setup wizard Google login without internet connection on my kaiser? any ideas?