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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Anyone else have the homescreen wallpaper come back quickly (when exiting an application) but the icons and widgets etc. take several more seconds to come back? This tends to happen the most for me when exiting the Google Finance app, but it happens occasionally with other apps as well. Its like the operating system unloads the homescreen from RAM and has to reread it from the sdcard (slow). I'm not getting any force close/wait messages when this happens...but is really my one and only annoyance with Android right now... I am running the latest basefiles from DZO and the last Google Ion (not do-no-evil) build. I have 25 mb of ramzswap...although I have tested it both with and without ramzswap, and it happens regardless, so i don't think that that is a contributing factor... any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
i second that. im also unable to boot with the new rootfs and system.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
sprint hero not working

hi all. i tried the sprint hero uploded a few hours earlier. when i get to booting it, the screen fills up with android_power: wakeup (0 - > 0) msgs. whts up. shld i leave it runing hoping for a boot logo. also the system file is .ext2 . do i have to / should convert it to sqsh or something ???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
the data.img wasn't clean so it was removed. I'm going to try to make a bare one with the dex files cached on it and apps and nothing else. If I'm right it was probably freezing at dexopt when the apps are odexed or something.. We'll see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
When the system file ist ext2 you have to do the following:

Boot a Linux (Debian is best)

Make sure you got squashfs tools installed needs to be v3.1 or 3.4

open a terminal and navigate to the folder where the ext2 file is

Type:

-mkdir sys

-mount -o loop system.ext2 sys (if there is a message that tells you have not enogh rights type: sudo mount -o loop system.ext2 sys

Type:

-mksquashfs sys system.sqsh

-if running from root terminal type chown "yourusername" system.sqsh otherwise skip this step

to delete the sys folder:

type umount sys then you can delete it

Then it will boot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
As long as squashfs-tools is version 3.1 or 3.4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Sorry i forgot:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
Much better, camera preview seems to be more reliable as well.

One regression I noted with these two files was the time-zone. It gets the right settings, but thinks my carrier (AT&T) is broadcasting UMT so it subtracts instead of leaving it alone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
WOW, just tried shop savvy and after a few seconds of playing with the focus, it captured the barcode and compared the prices. I even tired a wierd shoe cleaner and it worked. Great job and thank you very much!!! Also I don't know about anyone else, but my WiFi works perfectly. With and without 3G, it works very fast.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
just to confirm, Savvy do works just fine! Just used it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Wifi on Donut and Tattoo

Just uploaded an updated rootfs.img to vogue-hero that fixes Wifi on Donut and Tattoo builds.

http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/rootfs-15-10-09v2.img

It will probably be moved to vogue-android latter...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
thnx for the quick and detailed response. a pity i dont have a linux box. do i really have to do this to run sprint. if its that necessary mayb someone could convert ext2 to sqsh and upload
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You don't need to convert the ext2 image-- it will boot just the same. I'm testing a new one that's for our phones right now. If it goes well, I'll release a bundle including a blank data.img to make sure it boots all the way though. Wish me luck...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zakmcintyre:
Wifi On Donut and Tattoo RE:

Any chance this will fix the wifi on my xRom build? And did you just add your fix onto the rootfs-15-10-09 from earlier? Making sure I don't lose anything :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
Camera is working great with the new files! Preview works and the pictures are much better. I'm still amazed at how much better than WinMo Android is on the same hardware.

Tried Barcode Beasties, crashed as soon as the camera came up, but I could see the camera working fine behind the FC window.

ShopSavvy works fine until it actually recognized the barcode, then the FC window comes up. Whole phone froze, screen and keys unresponsive
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
ShopSavvy also FC's on me. Doesn't take the whole phone with it though. It just crashes back to the first ShopSavvy screen. I agree...Android does run a lot better than WinMo...and its running off of the slow sdcard when WinMo has the advantage of running off of internal ROM!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
rootfs and kernel updates are always cumulative.

I don't have any problems with wifi on xROM, so it's difficult for me to solve it ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
GREAT. cant wait for it .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zakmcintyre:
That darn winky face! lol. So we are both using xRom 1.5r2, both using the newest basefiles from Vogue-Hero (10-9), both using the rootfs you uploaded and newest zImage from DZO? What is the deal? Can't be ROM/radio because it worked in the past.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Okay, Sprint Hero is uploading now. The clean data.img is already up. Couple things I need help with. Can't start wifi for some reason-- all the files are there and services are set to load. Someone help me debug that. Voicemail # is not recognized from SIM though this may be that I'm on ATT-- can someone with Sprint see if it works?

You will cry at the lag when it first boots. Use Task Killer to kill all of the bloatware and it will fly. I had the real phone and my Tilt side by side and except for loading the dialer, they run just about the same speed.

I also put my laptop's hosts file in data and system to block the majority of ads so internet browsing should be a lot nicer. Since it was my test image, it has the old keymap too. The top softkeys are the Menu, bottom ones are volume +- and the Start button is to go Home.

Please help me get the bugs fixed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Does the wifi fix work with motoblur? I think it's time to switch to tattoo dev, oppose to hero..for obvious reasons.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
For now, the fix was just for tattoo and donut...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
My god...

So many builds and names, and updates.

Maybe it is a good idea to start a new tread with all build and links in a list..

Because some people does not know what he must use...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Variety is a good thing. Nothing's changed as to how you boot Android. The more the better and the more likely that pieces from each will blend into a better releases.

Anyone testing Sprint Hero? Got some issues, like to see what combinations of files fix/break them
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Somewhat OT, but hey, lots of people here using Android! Does anyone know if there is a way to have two Gmail accounts on the same phone, both with push (I know I can add as many accounts as I like to the Email app, but it isn't push). The reason I ask is because I am trying to work around the fact that Google Voice doesn't have push notification, so I have it forwarding to my Gmail account, which does...but it would be nice to be able to distinguish at a glance if it is an actual email (coming to one account) vs. an SMS (going to another account). Blah...I just wish Google would add push to GV and negate the need to do this...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kb7sqi:
If you use the a Rogers/Magic/Hero's build, you can set up your google accounts w/ Exchange. I have two accounts setup like that on mine. Works great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zakmcintyre:
Waiting on WiFi

Don't think the Sprint Hero would be fun for me without wifi, being that my alternative is EDGE connection (no wifi out in the middle of nowhere). I just wish I could get wifi to work in Ion for that matter.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
It's a work in progress thing. I noticed the camera's broken too but I think I need to mess with the libs according to zenulator. Either way, if you want the latest and greatest Hero, that's it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I agree; with having Ion, Rogers, Hero, Cyanogenmod, Xrom, Tattoo, Donut, Pulse and MotoBlur builds; there is a lot out there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
another update: just a bugfix in the permissions for wifi in Tattoo and Donut: http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/rootfs-15-10-09v3.img

(wifi does not always work in the previous version)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kb7sqi:
And after I just updated the v2 version. lol. pmos69, can you drop me an email so I can send you some updates to include in your next update. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
:o

It was just a stupid mistake.

Happens when you do changes in the live system and then don't replicate stuff exactly to the init scripts.

Sure, just sent you a pm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
just tried donut with the new rootfs (15-10-09v3) and wifi still does not work. It finds my network but will not connect. This is with a brand new data.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
so i've been noticing that with my builds like xrom 1.4 and other android builds that after first boot, it no longer boots. currently, i am using the basic android build and I am stuck at the android screen. Never did that before. Flashed a different rom but still no luck. Any advice?

EDIT: turns out this one app called Lock 2.0 was causing problems
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
:(

yes, the permissions are still not right.

Do this for a quick fix until I update the rootfs again

/bin/su
chmod 777 /data/misc/keystore
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] monkeyman08854:
I apologize if this has already been written and I was just unable to find it but I've been trying to get into android as an alternative OS and I've run into a problem.

whenever I click on contacts the phone quits out to the home screen, and whenever i recieve a msg I get the window "Sorry! The application Messaging (process com.android.mms) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.)

Any advice?

BTW: running 1.5 from the website provided in the OP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
Still unsuccessful starting wifi...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
hope you are using a donut build that does not use a custom init.rc...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
using the system-donut-market-fix.sqsh with craig0rs fixes from google code page.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
You are right. DHCP is failing when getting the IP address from the AP.

Strange. No error, it just fails.

It's working on tattoo though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
Which tattoo build do you use? I tried system-tattoo-100309.sqsh and it was very very slow.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
that one, although I'm not actually using it, since it needs work.

it's not slow at all if you disable data.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
Bummer, that build is not usable for me. If you get wifi working for donut I would be real happy with my donut build - it's very snappy and looks crisp. Thanks for all your effort.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Does anyone know what files define the keyboard? I want to put the xROM keyboard into a Rogers build... This is fun :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Take a look at the HTC_IME.apk
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Hey guys, good news. i ported a build from Saphire and included the new rootfs libs from dzo with full resolution camera. Now i'm able to make pictures that are complete. No green bars or so. Just a little themeing and i will upload it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
EXCELENT. cant wait to test it. could please upload a bundle ( zimage, system, roofs) so that there are no confusions. there are too many files on the server and its creating a lot of confusion as to which files are wifi, cam fixed etc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I've made a simple fake sensor driver, it lets you use the touch screen for tilt controls.

All you need is a new rootfs from here:

http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/rootfs-16-10-09.img

It's not perfect, in particular sometimes it just stops working and won't start again. I tried it with armadillo roll and hyperspace and they're both playable.

Will only work with Ion.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Man, you are unbelieveable, but please don't forget to sleep or eat:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
It's not necessary to get so confused :)

All updates to the kernel and rootfs images are cumulative. Just get the last ones...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djrakun:
exchange support

so much cool stuff/improvements is being built into the new images, but since the don't-be-evil.sqsh fiasco, i haven't seen an image that includes the exchange sync apps ( htc mail was the one in the roger's build that used happily until the camera was fixed)

Does anyone know of an android app from the marketplace ( or elsewhere) that i can use to sync my contacts with my exchange server? I just loaded 'exchange' by touchdown and it successfully syncs with my exchange, but it doesn't actually import the contact list into the phone's contacts. drag.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
djrakun are you using an HTC build or ION? I think that any HTC one-- Hero, Tattoo, maybe Rogers, supports the HTC mail app and Exchange support. If you run the Rogers build you had with it, copy the app from /data/app/ to your SD card's AndroidApps folder, when you boot another image it will preinstall it for you. I really don't think ION will support it but it might..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djrakun:
yeah, i'm using an ion build. That's a good idea to just copy the app in over the image. I'll give that a go after i switch back to a rogers ( or tattoo) build
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Or if you have Linux available you can take the system and rip the apps out of it:

*.img:

mkdir system && sudo mount -o loop system.img system && cp system/app/* <whereever>

*.sqsh:

unsquashfs system.sqsh && cp squashfs-root/app/* <whereever>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
Sprint Hero build

I tried out the sprint hero build, but it seems like it is not possible to set the APN for other carries than Sprint ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
If you don't have CDMA you will probably not want to use Sprint Hero. I don't have the time to pore over it to get it GSM worthy. Audio is distorted, calls are just about nonexistent due to it. There are constant errors about CDMA/GSM problems and so forth. It's pretty though and works for CDMA apparently.

I will probably just be ripping apps from it for other builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I have searched and searched and for the life of me I can't find them. So far all I can find are the Ion builds; can someone point a link to where the Hero, Tatto and other builds located so I can try them? BTY I have the AT&T tilt if that matters....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/downloads/list?can=1&q=&sort=-uploaded&colspec=Type%20Filename%20Summary%20Uploaded%20Size%20DownloadCount
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mike233:
Is there any way to prevent the phone from waking unless the side power button is pressed? From what I remember, some older builds had this. It would save a lot of battery for me, since the front buttons get pressed inadvertently in my pocket often, which hurts battery life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Cool, so now I have the hero builds, what about the Rogers, Cyanogenmod, Xrom, Tattoo, Donut, Pulse and MotoBlur builds or do those not work on the kaister?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Look at the link I posted. They're all there. vogue-android is stable. vogue-hero is dev/unstable. kb7sqi just did a new Rogers, there's xROM, all that is there. The link is sorted by upload date.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Aparently.. there's something wrong there...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Make sure you are using the correct panel type in defaut.txt (not 0).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Wow I am so frekin blind. Thank you very much.

I feel like a kid in a candy store; so much to play with :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
Thanks to all the developers who are putting in the work for this project, Android on the Kaiser is just absolutely insane. :)

I'm running the latest rootfs (rootfs-15-10-09v3), kb7sqi's magic themed system (from 10/15), the latest zImage (10/15) and initrd from the latest basefiles as well.

The camera doesn't work for me yet (but I haven't tried to get it to work either, so it's not a major loss), but what I do need help with is the Shift key doesn't work - I can't type uppercase characters.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mike233:
My startup.txt has "board-htcvogue.panel_type=1" in the list, so I think that's okay. When I leave the phone on standby, the right led does NOT blink green like it has in the past, so I guess something is keeping the phone awake. I have backgound data, wifi, gps and network location disabled, and Advanced Task Manager shows nothing running; I'm stumped.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I know, I get problems with power collapses too but the new kernel has greatly increased the battery life. Thanks dzo (and everyone) for all your work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Does any one else have the issue where it takes FOREVER (sometimes) for the home screen to come back when leaving an application? (Usually a black screen, then the wallpaper loads a couple seconds later, and then the icons, widgets, and application drawer come back) It doesn't happen all of the time, but it is enough to be quite annoying. It has gotten a lot worse since I started using the latest rootfs.img... It seems to do it the worst when exiting a Google application such as Finance or the browser...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
same combination gives the same problem for me, and some additional hard keyboard problem. soft keyboard works fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plutarcian:
Who's USING MY CPU

iv been using (trying to use) the bluryhero recomended by enatefox. im impressed by it BUT its too slow. i asked this earlier. is there anyway to speed it up. im missing phone calls because by the time it rings the other party has already hung up. have tried all kinds of stuff

- no widgets.

- no background data

- elevator=noop in startup // does this really help

- set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

all to no avail. also i tried to install a couple of task managers and i noticed my cpu usage peaks out regularly but if i look into details, there is no task hogging up THAT much cpu. the total of all processes never add up to 100 or even 60 - 70

also will changing renice script make a difference. ( cant seem to get adb to work and the better terminal in android dsnt let me write to /bin/userinit.sh). if its really worth it, i can set phone, sms , touchflo etc to high priority using a script.

i tried rogers builds and it was SUPER FAST. may b faster than windows even. but i like hero.

can any one help me.

thnx for all the work

P.S. i also have this problem. except i doesnt take a few seconds to come back rather A MINUTE OR TWO.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
I guess that I would expect it if I were trying to run Hero, I mean, that is definitely a heavier burden on the hardware. I would also find it less frustrating if it hadn't just started getting bad.. I have been running the last Ion system with very few issues..and now after the camera fixes it has gotten worse than what it was when I was running xROM with the advanced launcher.

just to clarify: Android still >> WinMo. The job you devs are doing is amazing :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
These sound like ROM issues to me. And I set my compcache disk size to 100MB. Task kill processes at boot, if I use wifi (no data here) then I make sure to task kill again after.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
By ROM issues do you mean the WinMo ROM or the radio ROM? It is my understanding that WinMo is completely unloaded once Android gets going, so that should have very little bearing on the performance of Android. I also haven't changed radio or rom for quite a long time, and this issue did not start when I did so. Secondly, I am barely using any compcache...it takes forever for it to use 32 mb, I'm not sure what 100 mb would gain me... I have very very few tasks running, pretty much just whatever I am doing at the time. Again, just running the Google Ion system, not Hero or anything fancy, and it started to get really bad when the new rootfs and kernel came out that enabled the camera (which works great, by the way...).

edit: (but of course the radio ROM is still there, obviously...)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
ok ive been away some weeks.. i see there is lots of improvements!!

theres a quick updated bundle outthere to try ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Rhys'Droid, the ROM is not Windows. Windows is in the ROM. Someone can explain this better but it's more of a container for the OS. Plus, we still need Windows to initialize some of the hardware and the extent to which that is done can vary between ROMs. It can have a huge impact on performance and features. When Solace3.1 got weird on me, I got the familiar white screen issue with Pulse, no call reception with Hero, etc. until I put the stock ROM back on and it's fine now. That problem just happened out of the blue. Compcache doesn't take "time" to run, it's initialized at boot and makes things substantially faster. The more you have (up to a point, I vouch for 100MB) the better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
The first thing to do is shrink Android 0.9

The kaise sd drivers are not working correctly. So If we would boot Android 0.9 from sd it would not work. That's why we are trying to shrink it so Android 0.9 will work offram.

And yes if we fix this, you will be able to save things and re-use the save info. Meanwhile if someone knows how to fix the sd drivers, plz share. If the sd drivers are fixed faster we do ot need to shrink Android 0.9