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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
BBS = BetterBatteryStats. Useful if you want to check if you have crazy wakelocks, deep sleep, apps process, etc. Mine seems fine. Only strange issue is that lots of sensors are being used even with screen off (see attached screenshot).

I've made 2 more tests:

1. turned off: data, wifi, bluettoh, nfc, autosync: 6% over 8h30m (45% -> 39%)

2. turned on airplane mode: 4% over 9h (69% -> 65%)

Now playing is on (i don't think this one consumes significant battery life, tested before with this turned on/off => same results), lift to check phone on, tap to check phone on

I willl have to test next with safe mode.

My setup is like this.

ON:

- white theme

- preferred network type: lte (signal is good)

- wifi always on

- wifi scan throttling (from developer tools)

- lte data

- bluetooth (mi band 4 with disabled notifications, i use it only for tracking sleep and heart rate; about 10 minutes daily BT audio streaming with BlackPlayer)

- smooth display (not forced to 90hz)

- ambient eq

- adaptive brightness (slider set at about 30% when night, 60% when day), screen timeout at 30s

- adaptive battery (no difference for me with this on or off)

- tap to check phone

- lift to check phone

- now playing

- location

- location history

- google fit

- autosync

- digital wellbeing

- active edge

- flip to Shh

- touch vibration (touch feedback: Medium), including Gboard haptics

- screen locking sounds

- touch sounds

- scheduled night light (custom time)

- do not disturb (3 schedules, 2 manually created and flip to shhh)

OFF:

- idle lock screen (always on display)

- bluetooth scanning

- wifi scanning

- motion sense

- voice match (google assistant hotword)

- mobile data always active (from developer options)

- backup

- printing services

When sleeping I flip the phone (display down).

I've bolded items from the ON list which i think it may consume battery when idle. All from the OFF list may consume battery when idling/standby.

My deep sleep is fine, 99% when I've put the phone down (flipped again). I've uploaded a screenshot from BBS.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Well, I am sorry to say that I have the exact same issue. First night after purchasing the Pixel 4 (1 week ago), drain overnight was 15%! Now it averages around 8. I've tried disabling everything with no success. Tonight I even tried the live wallpapers ene though the screen is off during that time!

I am yet to try airplane mode and safe mode.

So frustrating, especially coming from a Huawei p20 that was using 0-1% overnight!

I have a question for you though.

Did you setup the device as new and upload the apps from the play store or transfer data from your old device with the included cable?

What brand is your home router?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Welcome to the club :rolleyes:..

Well, we ain't blame the first day/days, cos we can accept that things have to settle down (i guess it has to do with apps optimization, restoring some stuff, creating a profile of usages). But then? That's frustrating.. I got the phone December 3rd, so it's more than a month already.

Honestly I was thinking that Pixel has to be the best in terms of standby battery drain, i was thinking that Google would do it right since it's under control. But I get similar results as my previous phones (see list here).

Wow, that Huawei P20 was really good! That's with autosync and internet connection always on?!

I've transferred the data from my Oneplus 5, it copied my installed apps list, wifi settings, music, messages. I've skipped photos. The apps had no data, were fresh apps installed by Google Play Store automatically.

What about you?

As for the router, I've got ASUS RT-N66U Dark Knight. 2 separate SSIDs for 5ghz and 2.4ghz. I'm on 2.4ghz band. And you?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I was hoping for the same. The experience is great so far. Haptics are amazing, screen is great, speakers are clear. All issues I had with previous devices. If the battery drain in stand-by is fixed - it will be great.

Yes. The Huawei P20 had every single thing on. I have not turned off anything or had to babysit the battery at any point in time. 0-1% drain overnight. And the capacity is not even that much higher than the Pixel 4's. 3400 mAh.

I did the same. This was the reason I asked. I suspect that the transfer may not be going too well and some settings are being interpreted wrong. I think I will perform a factory reset while the phone is still new and set it up as a new device instead of using the transfer. I can not find another explanation for the issue not being consistent among all users and only happening to some.

I have a Netgear R7000P. 2 separate SSIDs and I'm connected to the 5GHz one with the smart-wifi option turned on in the phone's settings. The reason I am asking is because a few months ago, my Huawei P20 lost around 25% in the span of an hour just sitting there. Turns out it was an issue with the wi-fi band. The router was doing something and just frying the wi-fi on the phone. After rebooting the router, the issue was resolved. It was weird.

I was just searching for any pattern in the connected devices. Should not be an issue in Airplane mode though.

Is your phone imported or did you purchase it from your local Google store? I imported mine to Bulgaria from the US. The mobile network bands should be fine, but there may be something that we are not seeing, causing the battery to drain. On the other hand, again, this would not be an issue during Airplane mode and yet, for you, the battery drain consists under airplane mode too...

Last night I made a measurement with AccuBattery. For a period of 7h43minutes, the phone was in deep sleep for 7 hours. And yet, it was losing 1% an hour... As you might guess - no battery drain apps were registered.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Me too, I really like the Pixel 4, the software experience and the hardware (the matte back with a soft touch feeling and no fingerprints, very good haptics and speakers, android eq, etc).

If you're doing a hard reset please keep us updated. Don't forget to test with safe mode. I want to try out this next time.

Even if it consumed 4% with airplane mode, it's the lowest i've got recently. Maybe there are many apps trying to get a connection, and those hide under Android System? Will have to dig more.

The lowest one from all time was once 2%. And that with Wifi always on, motion sense on, AOD off, adaptive battery on, phone flat on display. Go figure...

The router for sure has an impact to battery life.

A few weeks ago, when I was connected to a TalkTalk router (dunno what's the original manufacturer), that had dual band under the same SSID, the drain was so high.. 7% loss in less than 2h completely idle. Couldn't test with separate SSIDs because I had no access to the router.

I've bought the phone from UK (not directly from Google Store), and been using in Romania and UK. So I've got the European model

According to GSMArena, the US version has some difference in LTE bands.. but maybe it has no impact because it seems you are fine with the operator connection

https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_4-9896.php
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
your best bet is to do a factory reset, but instead of installing those battery measurements apps. don't install them and then see where your standby is. I've had those apps when the nexus 5 and all they do is drain. if I were you I would try safe mode first because it will disable all those apps. this is my battery usage from last night.

take a screenshot of the same pages I did so we can see what your apps and graph is doing. also press the 3 dots on the top right and press show device full usage
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I did not have the battery measurement app 2 days ago. I installed it just to take a look at the "Deep sleep" statistics, because there is no other way to access those.

And exactly for the reason you quoted (battery drain), I did not install GSam Battery Monitor and opted for AccuBattery instead. GSam has drained a lot of battery on previous phones I was battling battery drain issues on.

I'll try the safe mode tonight and airplane mode tomorrow. I may even try Airplane mode under safe mode, just because! :D

I'll charge it up to 100, unplug it and go to sleep. I'll share the screenshots tomorrow.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Okay. I'll try Safe Mode first.

Did you setup the device as new or transfer the information/settings from your other phone with the supplied adapter?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
yes, I transferred from my pixel 3, which I don't really like to do. but it went pretty smooth and I've been updating monthly with security updates.

I did have a problem when updating to January where my system was lagging. my touch response wasn't as good as it was before. I actually had digital wellbeing uninstalled in December and when I updated to January it glitched it out. I think it tried to install it again through the image. so I reinstalled it and disabled usage access, but it wasn't the same. then I just deleted the app again a few days ago and it's a beast once again.

I can type fast without errors and my scrolling doesn't skip a beat.

btw I'm always forced 90hz. if you haven't deleted digital wellbeing, you should you'll be amazed brotha!

as you can see no digital wellbeing
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
What good will deleting Digital Wellbeing bring? I don't use it and I have not configured it.

How do you uninstall it without root access?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
it's factory set up on your phone. go to the app and you can see it's collecting data. you'll notice a difference just by restricting usage access. goto the app and press the 3 dots and disable usage access. also delete the cache and memory. it's not as good as getting rid of the whole thing. it's bloatware

I deleted it through adb commands. just google how to delete it through adb. I haven't had success deleting it through usb, but instead connecting by tcpip(wifi)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I disabled all the permissions for Digital Wellbeing and denied it background access. I'll see what happens.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
My results with safe mode:

3% in 8h30m (89% -> 86%)

Wifi on, Bluetooth on, autosync on, now playing on, phone flipped with display down

Edit: just observed (from the screenshots) that cellular network was off. So in the end 3% is still high :/...
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Mine were:

Phone was at 97%. Rebooted under safe mode and when booting up it was 93%. Noticed cellular off but left it anyway.

Woke up at 88%, so it lost 5%. Only Gmail was syncing in the background.

Here is the graph.

So bad. For comparison, My Huawei has been sitting on airplane mode for 4 days now (95h 28min). It's currently at 64%. Projected battery life is 577h more.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
5% for 6h with cellular off? That's so bad man.

Photos seems to take the cake though.. is photos backup enabled? (Personally i have turned off photos backup)

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Once I've got this:

6h SOT over 16h

5% drain over 9h30m standby (phone placed with display down)

White theme, smooth display (force 90hz off), adaptive brightness (34%-50%)

Motion Sense off, AOD off, lift to check off, assistant voice match off, now playing on
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Photos backup is enabled but there is nothing to backup. It has less than 15 minutes of background activity when I looked it up and that's all.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
your phone was at 97 then rebooted to 93 percent? you need to calibrate your battery.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Yeah. It was weird for me too. I though that I didn't see right, but I am pretty sure that it was at 97% because I had barely used it.

I have charged to 100% and discharged to 0% twice now. I've had it for 7 days.

The thing that annoys me is that the battery life is just fine, considering the small capacity and the 90Hz screen, when the phone is being used. But the standby time is awful.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
you guys do know this is a 2800mah battery right? it is not going to compare to a Huawei with 4000mah. C'mon use some common sense. DSF for your usage your getting the best your gonna get. and for godzi calibrate your battery cause your phone shouldn't drop that much percent just from restarting.

charge your phone to 100 and use it all the way till the phone shuts off. plug it in and charge to 100 without turning the phone on. once it's at 100 unplug your charger and turn the phone on if your phone isn't at 100 percent after you turn on the phone, charge it to 100 then unplug and restart. use your phone all the way till it shuts off again. and do the same thing. your battery shouldn't have those big percentage drops anymore.

if that's the case then just factory reset cause something isn't right with your phone
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Sorry, but it feels not right a phone to use 4% while in airplane mode and dozing for 9h standby staying flat flipped down.

And the Huawei in question has 3400mAh battery.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
As DSF has mentioned, the Huawei has 3400mAh battery AND an LCD screen.

As is the case, the pixel 4 with only 600mAh less is around 2-3 times worse, when battery time in standby is concerned.

Even if the Huawei had double the Pixel 4 battery at 5200mAh, and it doesn't, but if it did, math shows that Huawei losing 0-1% battery overnight means that the Pixel 4 should be using 1-2%. Not 6-10%. And that's with a lot of things turned off! And remember, my Huawei had the same exact apps like the Pixel and was using the exact same networks. Both wifi and cellular. With the exact same SIM card (since sometimes a faulty SIM card can drain battery).

Something in the background is doing something wrong and we are trying to find it. I'll maybe try resetting the phone tomorrow if the battery doesn't perform better tonight.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
this 5 hours unplugged on lte. If you want I'll do a standby test with auto sync then adaptive battery on and I'll probably be in the same boat as you
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Well, this is what I want to see on my phone too. Do you have auto-sync off?

Are you using the normal Pixel 4 or the XL?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
yup, everything I've disabled is on page 3. I have the regular.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Well, last night I turned off Location, Wi-fi and data. This means that no sync was going on in the background. I lost 8% overnight. This is laughable.

I lose the same amounts of battery with all things turned on and running like I do with everything turned off.

At least I know that it's something else that if found, will not have to be disabled and stop the normal operation of the phone.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Maybe your battery is just a bad one. I've been following the thread and I tried last night also with everything disabled and lost 3% in just under 8 hours.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I think that 3% is just a little too much but certainly better than my scenario.

The battery is fine if stats are to be trusted.

I noticed a lot of people with Pixel 2, 3 complaining of battery drain in standby after the Android 10 update.

Attached are my stats from today.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
This is getting annoying.

Tonight it lost 9%. Screenshots are attached. The stock battery consumption app shows a completely different picture from GSam battery monitor. Is GSam working properly with Android 10 for you guys?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
have you actually tried disabling auto sync or are you assuming it's disabled cause you don't have an internet connection? have you tried actually disabling auto sync then seeing if its better?

do me a favor and go to settings, accounts and disable the auto sync from there. then go to system and disable backup. let the system stabalize for a couple days and show me another screenshot with that battery app deleted don't use that app for this test please.

and also double check that Bluetooth or wifi scanning hasnt re-enabled
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I just assumed that without Internet connectivity, there will be no sync going on. :)

I will turn it off just to test whether anything changes.

Bluetooth and wifi scanning was disabled for the past 2 days. I re-enabled it since nothing changed.

Already removed GSam, because I think that after installing it, my Gmail notifications started getting delayed by a lot.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
wether or not you have internet connection auto sync is software. so it will use your cpu to check if you have a connection first then proceed after that.

disable both scanning while testing please

I wanna see if your battery improves keep auto sync disabled for the 2 days. if you want to sync just press your account name and sync each app you want to sync manually

and also disable automatic updates in developer options
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I did not even have to wait for 2 days, as you suggested.

Phone was screen down

Wifi off

Mobile data off

Bluetooth off

Wifi, Bluetooth scanning off

Auto sync off

I even put my network to 3G and not LTE since my pixel can't register the VoLTE anyway.

99% left after 6 hours. 1% lost.

Now I just need to start turning them on one by one in order to isolate the culprit, since I can't use the phone without the sync feature. :)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Nice performance for a `dummy` phone :D

In your case I suspect that Google photos backup is one of the top drainers.

Check what items are turned on for your Google account sync. I disabled some i don't use from there. (screenshot attached)

I don't use GSam battery monitor, only BBS and Accubattery (the last one to keep track chargings).

Are you using Idle screen (Alwasy on display)?

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The battery saga continues. 4 nights, 4 tests:

Bluetooth off, MiFit uninstalled

6% drain in 8h:21m (59% -> 53%)

4% drain in 7h:56m (80% -> 76%)

Bluetooth on, MiFit installed

6% in 7h:43m (60% -> 54%)

5% in 8h:42m (80% -> 75%)

Findings:

- bluetooth on / off seems to make no significant difference

- when comparing it's crucial to use similar battery level since the battery percent is not going down linearly

Setup is as mentioned earlier here (auto sync on, wifi on, lte, etc)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I limited the background activity of Google Photos after that first screenshot where Google Photos is the main offender. I had limited it before, but the screenshot was after the factory reset. There was no difference. I will try turning off the sync for Google Photos only just in case.

I removed all battery monitoring/logging tools. I just wanted to see how long the device stays awake for and how long it is in deep sleep.

You mentioned that you live in Romania. Does your VoLTE work?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Some apps misbehave.. for example i've restricted an app's background activities, and *yet* the app wast on top of the partial wakelocks list (*net_scheduler* for minutes...)

Accubattery has a very minor impact to battery life. BetterBatteryStats consumes a bit, but not something major.

The carrier is limiting VolTE to a list of phones (mostly samsung, apple, huawei).. so nah, I have no access to VolTE.

Only LTE data and what I've observed I have better signal with LTE than with 3G.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
So I went from 100% to 95% in 9 hour. The only thing under my battery stats were "Google play services" and "carrier services"

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What does "automatic updates" consist of? Is it the otas being pushed to device? I'm rooted so I don't think I get otas
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
it's auto sync (most likely the main one), backup, Bluetooth and wifi scanning and adaptive battery. delete the battery stats if you disable adaptive battery

my Google's photo backup is also disabled same as play store auto updates I just get notifications then update when I want too.

finally someone listened, good job! if you wanna try getting less than 1 percent then disable adaptive battery. don't restrict any background apps. I never use adaptive battery, keep your settings the same as you have them. having wifi or Lte on won't make much of a difference.

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correct, so it's automatically checking for updates a certain amount of times per day. I don't think it impacts the standby drastically, it might not even make a difference.

your play services is high cause of auto sync, and if that's off then it's Bluetooth or wifi scanning, turn it off.

if you have a different kernel that could be another factor
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Oh ok it might be elementalX kernel. I tried with all those off prior.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
omg, simple jack over here... since Dec. 22 guys c'mon, cmon

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yeah, when I was using different kernels for the nexus 5 I found my battery was worse. even if it's at a lower state it's gotta ramp up the processors when doing a task.

think about it like a car constantly going from a dead stop and then accelerating hard. you waste a ton of gas right. plus the coding might not be that great on the kernel causing errors in the background you can't see.

stock kernel has always been the best for me. system responsive wise and battery.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Il try stock kernel again next system update.

Last night lost 1% in over 4 hours.

cleared data in Google Play Service and Carrier Services

Charged from 0% to 100% with phone off

Also held power button down for 40sec until reboot twice. I found this in the XL forum for battery fix from dropping 3-5% every reboot. Mine hasnt dropped more than 1% now on reboot.

Lte on

Bluetooth on (With Galaxy Watch Active Connected)

Gps high accuracy on

Nfc on

Adaptive battery on

Tap to wake on

Autosync on

WiFi and Bluetooth scanning off

WiFi off

Aod off

Vibration off

Motion sense off

Lift to wake off

Forced 90hz (shouldn't matter for standby)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
very nice! do a test for about 8-9 hours and show us what the drain is like. maybe it'll be close to DSFs and he can go from there
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Il test tonight for 8ish hours
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I tried turning off only Auto-sync and only Adaptive battery. In both cases, I lost 5-6% overnight (6-7 hours).

So I guess that's not it. I'll try airplane mode tonight.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
What's your point exactly?

What's "retard" in trying to determine what's draining the device by testing different scenarios?

I have similar experience.

Auto sync on/off makes no visible difference.

Same with adaptive battery on/off.

Can you post also the percent when you put the phone to sleep? From 100% the battery level goes slower than from eg 80%.

Another test with location accuracy off: 5% in 8h44m (89% -> 84%), 5% in 7h26 (70% -> 65%)

Maybe [MENTION=2664432]jalado[/MENTION] could make a test one night with auto sync on and post the results.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
My start percentage tonight was 95% and I woke up at 90%.

In the mean time, Airplane mode, Huawei P20 lost 40% for 5 days.

That's 0.3% per hour.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
I thought you were doing 1 percent over 6 hours?

what did you change?

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k I'll do a test with auto sync and backup on

"never go full retard" lol