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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chrisrc1985:
I have the same ROM / Radio and when I run haret, my phone gets stuck in the linux boot screen.

so this could possibly be a radio or ROM issue, is anyone else using either PDA or radio 1.65.24.36 (also using a tilt)

where it IS working?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Upgrade to radio 1.71.09.01
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ghostdogg:
Editing android img files

I had asked the question about recompiling or editing existing android img files a few days ago and didnt get any sort of reply. I came acrossed this today and thought some might find it useful. Hopefully this post isnt redundant from somewhere in this 300+ page post. I search with all the keywords I could think of with no answer.

There is no info as to who wrote the guide so I can't give credit where its due. If anyone knows please let me know.

http://www.myhtcphone.com/node/18

Edit: Found this PDF link explaining in extreme detail embedded linux kernel and drivers. Lots related to ARM boards and drivers. http://free-electrons.com/doc/embedded_linux_kernel_and_drivers.pdf
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AXP:
in default.txt set u apn name (username & password leave empty - it's ignored on boot)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Maybe it would be nice to have something I've used long time ago.. SVN repository (which I allready offered to the community) and automatical Nightly builds (cronned compilation) that automaticcaly puts all new things and created test build every midnight.

what do you think about that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] echofloripa:
You don't need another repository, you've got already the GIT (equivalent to subversion). However, it would be helpful a continuous integration/nightly build process that would build and make available the whole stuff. You can use several different tools for that, like cruise control, hudson or anthill.

I could probably set this up, once I get to know the whole process of building, but I'm going to brazil (my home country) for 3 weeks in the beach :)

Maybe in the way back!!! :P

See ya

Emerson
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
Can some one upload this to Rapidshare or something similar, as I can't read Russian and Google translate isn't working very well! Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] corvus:
http://rapidshare.com/files/194646400/android_kaiser_android-dev.ru.zip.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
Excellent, fast work! Thanks! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well the thing with SVN was cause I was not aware of the GIT, and what I wanted to say was not about the repo, but abut autoBuilds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
I can't access this anymore -

"This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.

This limit is reached."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryonic90:
Here's another mirror:

http://rapidshare.com/files/194690479/android_kaiser_android-dev.ru.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djmp89:
Yeah, If I leave the screen to go off i cant get it back on and I get vertical lines running down my screen.

Does anyone on orange in the UK managed to get their data working, togga tells me i'm connected but I cant browse web pages or use google maps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
And Another

http://biggestpos.com/android/android_kaiser_android-dev.ru.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Didn't get the g icon in the russian andrej android ;-) but did get data to work by editing the default.txt and compeltely deleting the APN in android...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DiMiK:
set pm.sleep_mode=0 in default.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chrisrc1985:
I originally wrote:

I have the same ROM / Radio and when I run haret, my phone gets stuck in the linux boot screen.

so this could possibly be a radio or ROM issue, is anyone else using either PDA or radio 1.65.24.36 (also using a tilt)

where it IS working?

I was told to use radion 1.71xxxxx I did update my radio, however when i Ran haret, it got stuck in the linux boot screen again...

not sure what to do at this point, any help would be appreciated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Are you sure, you waited long enough? maybe say what message you got
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] henkkie:
Thanks! I installed this android on my kaiser. it works quite good:)

Rotates good, data good, sms & phone good!

I edited the t-mobile settings for internet and it worked.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anthonws:
Hello to all,

05-02-09 Android + TMN Portugal

default.txt:

"(...) ppp.apn=internet ppp.username=\"\" ppp.password=\"\" (...)"

Android APN:

Name: tmn

APN: internet

MCC: 268

MNC: 06

I have data but the behavior is quite random. With that I mean that is quite hard to get the connection established. It depends, maybe only after 2/3 or 10 retires with Togga.

Is "Google Login Service" working for any of you? I've read that in cupcake branch it still doesn't work.

http://www.mail-archive.com/android-developers@googlegroups.com/msg20447.html

Thank you all!

Best regards,

Anthon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chrisrc1985:
I have waited a good amout of time

the line it gets stuck on is:

"2.114486J Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init_"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Copied all files from zip to storage card, left every file on the root of the storage card, no folders. (Already had AndroidApps)

Used the included default.txt, no modifications, did NOT initiate a connection in windows mobile before running haret.

Russian Build Results:

ROM: Hyperdragon IV IOLITE

Radio: 1.65.24.36

Good centered splash, correct rotation, rotates back.

Added ATT APN in settings.

Restarted

G-Icon showed up.

Started browser: no network connection pop-up, g-icon went away.

Cleared pop-up, g icon came back. Seems to flash in and out.

Ran Togga: G icon still comes and goes, little arrows blink under g icon. Connection attempt 1 never finishes.

Restarted, initialized internet connection, ran haret

G-icon appears, Launch browser, web not available (no 'no net work connection popup though)

Ran togga: First Second, and Third attempts fail.

Deleted only remaining APN, ran togga, connections fail again.

Restarted, modified default.txt username/password with the following:

ppp.apn=ATT ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1

Shut down active data connection in windows mobile

ran haret, noticed many 'waiting for ppp' lines before splash screen in terminal, may have been there before though as well

no G Icon

Launched Browser, web page not available

Ran Togga, strange 'connection attempt 1' fails and tries connection attempt 1 again, and again...

restarted, started connection in windows mobile, ran haret

no g icon

launched browser, web page not avail

ran togga Failed Failed Failed

Added APN settings in Android

ran togga CONNECT

no G Icon

Ran browser, No network connection popup. Restarted

Did not run WM netowrk connection.

Ran togga, already connected it says.

ran browser, connected successfully.

Sent myself text message, worked fine.

Called voicemail. Sound comes through internal speaker

Sent myself a voicemail. Got voicemail message, hit voicemail shortcut key from Android, listened to voicemail (good sound quality).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AXP:
skola28

=)

I see u have little fun =)

take original default.txt and modify only apn name. username & password leave default (\"\") - it's ignored on boot.

Then try to connect with togga. If u cannot, set u username&password in apn settings, reset device then run togga. Try it =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
I changed the default.txt commandline which came with the package to:

set cmdline "ppp.apn=AT&T ppp.username=\"\" ppp.password=\"\" pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"

(IE: only modified the ppp.apn=internet to ppp.apn=AT&T)

Ran haret (no internet connection in Windows Mobile)

Ran Browser (no network connection)

Ran Togga; connected

Ran Browser; internet pages loaded fine

I do have a full setup already in the APN settings.

Name: AT&T

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: leave blank

Port: leave blank

Username:WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password:CINGULAR1

Server: leave blank

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS Port: 80

MCC:310

MNC:410 (note. this could also be 310, 41 or 15)

APN Type: leave blank

I deleted the APN Settings from inside Android, then restarted.

Ensured no connection to data network in windows mobile, ran haret

G icon flashed on

Ran browser again CONNECTED fine with NO TOGGA! G Icon stays on.

So I ran back to the APN settings in Android. AT&T was back. Must not have really been deleted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
No it doesn't, as we are using the cupcake as well...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
That's the way I like it! Try everyting you can before saying it doesn't work and asking for help... Great succes! (feels good doesn't it!?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
After going to a local AT&T store to waste a little time on the way in to work the other day, I ran android for the reps, who were quite very amused with the fact that android was working on non T-Mobile hardware. And the reps even had a jailbroken iPhone, and a Fuze with a custom rom, which looked a lot like Dutty's work. :D

I also wonder if a developer somewhere would want to do a program that works much like HTC Connection Setup, but for android. Its something to think about down the road if it doesn't get configured automatically in android. Anyway, back from my day at disney, and tried the new package of files, and here is my rundown of it.

Edited default.txt to reflect the AT&T settings, ppp.apn=wireless.cingular ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1

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Boot: OK

Loads more messages fly across the screen during boot.

Boot Logo: Ok

Keypad: OK

Keyboard: OK (configured for the AT&T Tilt)

Screen Rotation: OK

Togga: OK (with added APN settings, in settings)

SMS: OK

Data: OK (see togga)

Standby: OK

Backlight: OK

Audio: OK (external speaker)

Calls: OK (internal speaker, in one out of one tests, it killed all signal and data for a minute)

Read From Sim: OK

MMS: Untested, but assumed working as not much has changed there.

Touchscreen: OK (Could use more calibration, the touch area is shifted slightly to the right, so touching the far left, the pointer is a little more right, touching the far right shows no active pointer, try moving a widget from the second (main) page, and move it right to the 3rd page. This is not limited to this build.)

Now to the known issues:

Camera: NO

GPS: NO (well not really a total NO)

Battery Indicator: NO

Google Packages(gmail, youtube, calendar, etc): None Working.

On a side note, on a previous build, I was able to run android for 6-7 hours on standby with minimal battery drain.

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And I assume everyone heard the announcement that Cupcake, isnt really an update. Its just the name of the in testing updates that could come to Android. Link To Neowin Article

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That sounds like a great Idea, Although things will more than likely break more as it is a bit more open and less controlled. But that is the risk with anything that has nightly builds. Just wait till the next one or go back to an older one.

Personally I think it would help ease the strain on the development, so they don't have to always build it to pass it around.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
So whats the deal w/ the front keys being disabled when it goes to sleep...

How do we wake it up?

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anthonws:
@KeizerBAAS

Too bad... :(

Thanks for the reply!

A little off-topic:

There is a post asking how to run haret at startup. Well I did a little "hack" to do so.

1. Copy a shortcut of haret.exe to \Windows\Startup

2. Rename "default.txt" to "startup.txt"

3. Reboot and enjoy

Either way, I'm going to check if it's possible to configure "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Init" to launch haret.

Hummm, I think there is an Init Launcher app somewhere.

Best regards,

Anthon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chrisrc1985:
ok - so internet works - sms works - mms untested - incoming call, does not work, no voice is enabled or recieved. can not exit phone call, even after caller hangs up, end call will not end the call
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AXP:
=))))

correct string:

set cmdline "ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=\"\" ppp.password=\"\" pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] PhyerFly:
Check your setting for sleep mode in your CMD line. I don't know if this is unrelated, but I had this same problem and switching the sleep mode to 3 fixed it for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
I'd love to see this as well, I tried setting up git on my ubuntu VM at work, but it didn't seem to work quite right, I'm sure I can if I work with it enough. If someone wants to figure out how to automate the build process from the git (on my VM or another) then I'll make sure it gets up to my web server on a nightly basis. (similar sort of thing I've been doing for my work)

As of now the todo:

1. Get git running

2. Get git updating automatically

3. Build image from git

4. Zip/upload files to web server (easy enough)

If someone with a little more knowledge/time cares to give a hand, I'll gladly get that going.

Think of it...nightly updates? Please and thanks, PM me if you can help out!

P.S. Regarding the file being uploaded a page or two ago, what's that, and is it not available on my repository? I'll upload it if someone wants to get it to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
if that would be on one server, than you do not need any upload. That was my idea first time, build repository and also web on subdomain that would contain any info, KBs, news and also acces to the repository and nightly builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
status of applications

Wow, you guys are amazing. I have been watching this thread for a while and took a crack a while back at running Android on my tilt - but that was before you all worked out so many of the kinks. Sounds like the progress has really made Android close to full-time usable.

I have a question for all you testers out there. Has anyone tried to use any of the Android applications on their Kaisers that provide access to Microsoft Exchange yet? Nitrodesk Touchdown for example? Maybe more generally, how are Android Apps in general working on your recent builds? As soon as Exchange e-mail is functional, I am really looking forward to switching over full time.

Aloha,

cmus
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
Mm, it would be on another server, I have godaddy hosting, which has a ton of bandwidth, and I'd be running a VM (virtual machine) on my work computer. As far as more info/news, etc, from what I gather, the community here doesn't want another website to keep track of, as there's already the wiki and who knows how many other things are out there, it all just adds to the confusion. However, if nightly builds works out well and there's enough support, I have no problem with adding a page or two that gives a bit more information if there was interest; I just don't want to add to the confusion :-D So far I've just kept my support to hosting files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
cupcake vs android 1.0?

If cupcake is the pre-alpha type development branch, what is the advantage of using it? (I am asking an honest question, I am not very knowledgeable about this stuff)

Is it possible to take the changes that the devs have made and use them with the 1.0 that has a working google login?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
What would be the point of a SVN nightly build when for an example latest git work was done 36 hours ago? (like these last days)

What is the point of a svn daily build system when there is not 50 diffs a day? (like rockbox project)

Why does everybody and their granny want to be the android kernel hero when dzo is doing most of the work?

What everybody need kernel side is available in the git.

Just git pull and compile whenever a diff comes out.

Furthermore most of the time DZO is nice enough to post an updated binary.

So nightly build is: pointless.

So my suggestion is as follow:

If like me you have no skills to help in dev.

Just sit back and enjoy, the thread should became less polluted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
No Comment :D

Somebody just missed the point that we are trying to discuss for about a week.. ;) Si sit back please and enjoy... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
Yes, the last update was 41 hours ago, but past that there has been many updates in a single day, several days back to back. Would it not be useful for the devs to know that the latest work is available to everyone within a day of being updated? Sure, most of the files would be the same, but for the average person without much knowledge, it's much easier to completely wipe the card and put the newest release of files on it all at once - less confusion and keeps everyone on the same page.

As far as being the "android kernel hero", I'm not sure who you're referring to there, but I believe it's been expressed that anyone who is not able to actively contribute wants to help streamline the process in any way they can. Would this or would this not help keep everyone on the same page?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
I understand that users are keen and impatient to try out the newest update to the Android kernel, but while you are patiently waiting to see what comes next, why not get involved yourself?

There are many, many things that can be done to help the project, if you have design skills, why not create wallpapers and icons - there is a thread devoted to it on the Polaris forum here: Polaris Linux Android - Wallpapers, Themes and Icons

If design isnt your forte, maybe you can get involved in the Wiki's keeping them updated, keeping track of working roms and radios and the differing results and recommendations.

I havent seen anyone here offer to start a support thread to divert support posts away from this heaving thread, instead we have users making assumptions about the difficulties the developers may be facing and looking for solutions to overcome non-existent issues.

If you wish to offer a download facility with up-to-date prebuilt files then that is your perogative and you should not have to ask anyone whether you should do this but SVN's and the other solutions that have been offered here seem more of way of making it easier for users to download the latest builds faster rather than assisting the developers and that in the end will only cause the progress to slow down.

What we need right now are more developers to get on-board with the current development process - not a change to the development process.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
I offered SVN because I was not aware of GIT already running. My bad, I am sorry if anyone was offended by that. I also noticed, that the info is scaterred here and there and I am not sure how to update the Wiki pages here, so I offered full site with CMS and lot of other tools (like bug tracking, dev logging, updates and downloads) for people to have it easier, because that would be the easiest thing for me to start and be at last a bit usefull. I can of course put there a facility to automatically get the latest GIT source and compile it and make it available for others together with the info taken from change logs automatically etc...

In this moment I am not really sure what else to do to start my work here, but I was just trying to put in some thoughts for you to think about, cause I thought that they might be usefull.

If you consider that stupid, than I am really sorry and I am silent from now till the time I'll find out how to helf in development itself...

Howgh...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bdvd87:
problem with the normal lock screen

I have gotten android to boot, use data, make calls, and sms with the newest release ( GREAT JOB TO EVERYONE!!!). but i can't get it to wake up from the sleep mode if anyone knows an easy fix please post it.:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
No-one is calling you stupid asj - and if you are able to automate the compiling and distribution of the files, then as I said earlier, go for it, I;m sure it will be a valuable service to the users here (and please include us polaris users too!) but be aware that the current versioning system in place - crude as it may be is what seems to suit the devs - not excluding dzo, who has already made it clear he prefers the development process as it is. If its the distribution of the files and collating of information that you think could benefit from your input then you should do it.

A full all-singng, all-dancing cms with all bells and whistles is somthing that is really a matter of personal choice. but to be honest, unless you have the support of the community here to offer this, which is going to be unlikely, it will be a waste of your time and effort as yet again, it will only be replicating whats available with the tools that are available on these forums, may they be better suited or not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
If anyone need them, here are the Orange France APN settings I posted a while back.

They work great for me:

- Name : orange

- APN : orange

- Username : orange

- Password : orange

- MCC : 208

- MNC : 01

- APN Type : default

Leave everything else blank.

The work is not mine, I found them on some blog talking about the G1, but I can't remember the name.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
pm.sleep_mode should be 1 (power collapse) but is far as I can see, wince doesn't use this mode, it uses mode 2 (apps sleep). This mode doesn't work yet for us. Mode 1 is better but it's possible it's not supported on older radios so try upgrading to radio 1.71. and make sure pm.sleep_mode=1 is in default.txt. mode 4 (swfi) may be broken too but that uses too much power anyway.

Sorry my server has been down for a couple of days, there's not much I can do about it, it's at my work and its a public holiday. I'll get it fixed on monday.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bdvd87:
RE: lock screen

The problem at least for me is more widespread than I had though. It seems that the hard buttons themselves ( at least some of them) stop working in certain programs or if the phone sleeps. I will try a new rom and radio and see what the cause is.