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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
it works great on my kaiser on the french operator orange.

I'm actually posting this from it :)

I'm using a 2go (non sdhc, obviously).

the APN parameters I used:

- Name : orange

- APN : orange

- Username : orange

- Password : orange

- MCC : 208

- MNC : 01

- APN Type : default

In my default.txt, I had to modify the set cmdline to:

set cmdline "ppp.username=orange ppp.password=orange pm.sleep_mode=4 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"

I then used togga.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Nah - mine's not SDHC, and it runs fine. Make sure you have your card formatted FAT32 and just have everything on the Root of your SD card. Also make sure you're using the latest builds of everything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Ok, here is my exact setup,

This is set up for AT&T but not much has to be changed for others.

Hardware is as follows:

AT&T Tilt (msm 7201)

Radio 1.71.09.01 (the emo one)

Rom Garmin DK10 Final

2GB MicroSD (unknown brand, 3 partitions, FAT32, FAT16, EXT3. Currently all boot files are on the FAT32.)

4GB MicroSDHC (Unknown brand, single FAT32 partition.)

Software is as follows:

Android Vogue package from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/android-16-01-09.zip extracted to the ROOT of the SD card.

Latest kernel from post 2016 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3183252&postcount=2016 to replace the one included in the vogue package.

An active data connection in WM before booting.

My Default.txt is as follows. Note:Comments taken out to save space, but based on the one from the vogue package, just changed for the kaiser.

Parts in Bold are parts that I have changed to make it boot for the kaiser.

And while in android I used the AT&T APN settings from post 2009 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3182496&postcount=2009 and after used TOGGA to activate the data connection.

Name: AT&T

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: leave blank

Port: leave blank

Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password: CINGULAR1

Server: leave blank

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410(west coast, you may have to use 310 or 41 for east coast, let us know!) --- I used 310 for my area on the east coast, and I have not had any problems.

APN type: blank

Run togga, tap connect, and enjoy your data connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrSmileyJr:
I asked xmoo to update first post to direct everyone to the wiki
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] webvan:
Finally finding some time to come back here, it seems Android is fully functional on the Kaiser now? GPS too ? The Android "store" too ?

Can I use shadowline's instructions for Orange France ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrSmileyJr:
I am using the latest zimage, but the touchscreen works poorly, and no audio for music, and having a hard time in general... we need that back button working & the scroll wheel.

I have radio 1.65 - does the 1.71 radio do better?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dperren:
No, but it looks like we're (well, the developers dedicating huge amounts of their time to this) getting somewhere, and pending any huge setbacks we should have a usable day-to-day Android system within a few months.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] webvan:
Sounds good, thanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrSmileyJr:
ok guys, i've done more work on the wiki, please visit and contribute - if you got something to work, enter in the notes what you u have - radio,rom,a diff zimage from the one posted on the wiki?....

go go go! http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RunAndroidOnKaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Hi,

I've made a few changes to the kernel:

Added mullins ts driver (I think it is his anyway, not calibrated well for me though)

The display backlight should switch off now.

The jog wheel should work now.

The front panel keys have been remapped:

win key is back

ie key is home

mail key is menu

Keyboard sliding rotates the display but since the g1 kbd slides left it is upside down!!

Get it from:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

Only the kernel (zImage) has changed from the previous release.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
just put 1.0 on my tilt... it's interesting that some are getting better results than others.

I got it to boot on the first try (and the second, etc.),. Touchscreen is unusable (it responds, but not in a predictable or usable way). It would not connect to the data at all. I dialed my house phone, it rang, I picked up, and nothing. No voice communication between the two. And it seemed the android could not figure out when the house phone hung up.

It's pretty, but not functional at all :p

Also, is there a way to get to the command-line from android? is there a current angrstrom image I should use instead?

As I said in the other post, I'm a skilled linux programmer (with very little low-level driver experience, but there's always a project to learn on... :D ), but I could definitely be helpful with stuff like get bluetooth to work once you have a UART to play with, etc.

Again, in what ways can I help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I guess that I should also point out from my earlier (and very optimistic post) that not everything is working.

Here is a list (as far as i've personally seen, And I have not tried the newest Zimage yet that is above me.)

There is NO App store, not going to happen until Google opens it up to the public, but for now it is Only for the G1.

Audio is not working (yet) for everything but calls.

Some on screen items are not sized/positioned right for QVGA yet.

The touchscreen still needs work on alignment, as browsing the internet is a pain in the :D.

Some applications still crash every now and then.

No WiFi yet.

No bluetooth yet.

Keyboard mapping for the Tilt is not correct as the mapping is based on the Kaiser (different layout on special characters)

The data connection is a bit of a hack, and doesnt "just work."

The camera does not work.

No screen rotation when sliding the keyboard.

No GPS yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] erandhawa:
would definately have to say great progress is being made...good job everyone....i've been watching this project for quite some time now tested it in the early stages and tested it again with DZO's latest updates. I am on the AT&T network in southern california and with his image with the recommended radio i am getting full call functions, just no ringing but it does show the call on the screen. Also i am using the pda v15 rom, hope this can help people tryin to get it working on their phones.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dperren:
You are a legend amongst men.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
Thanks dzo. Touchscreen is worse than the last posted version.

Doesn't seem at all accurate. Wasn't able to do much testing due to this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I have edited the WiKi to be more informative, I hope you guys don't mind. :cool:

I will continue to add what I can as well, its the least I can do. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
hey, btw, in case it helps anyone...

http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/Virtual-GPS-Download-72765.html

download that under wm, install, and run. The first line should say something like

1| 310 410 3949 64021

where 310 and 410 are my mcc and mnc.

May be useful for setting up apn?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
are you sure?? I mean really sure? :P the zimages on that page do nothing good for me, no calls, bad touchscreen, the keys are not mapped as you say (more like they were a while back) and no screen rotation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] riano:
Haret is failing for me..

The exact message is in dutch, it roughly translates to:

"The file 'haret' cannot be opened. It is not signed with a secure certificate or one of it's components can't be found. You may need to re-install or repair the file if the problem persists."

Now, I've tried 3 or 4 versions of haret, I've tried putting it on my phone's main memory, the SD card and nothing is working.. anyone know of a solution?

It has worked in the past, I was trying to get the 16-01 release of Dzo going and haret locked up the phone before even getting to the linux boot screen, I tried logging (earlyharetlog.txt or somesuch) but to no avail..

Any suggestions would be most welcome!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] coincoinlapin:
same as shadowline here. Huge regression :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Magister2k7:
To fix that change PhoneWindowManager.java and recompile android.policy.jar (or just get it from my build for Titan)

See: http://magister.ipsys.net/files/android/android.policy.jar

http://magister.ipsys.net/files/android/PhoneWindowManager.java
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Oops, sorry I copied the wrong zip file, try again and it should work better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] coincoinlapin:
Dzo, you da man :p that fixes it. Keep up the excellent work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
This looks good, having the back key mapped works a lot easier!

The scroll wheel overreacts a bit in this version.

Further I have had to soft reset due to hang-ups now 5 times this morning, the previous version had no such problems.

TS is better than the previous one, not aligned super, but better useable than the previous one.

Testing further and further during boring moments at work and smoking breaks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Wow dzo am impressed, it works very good, screen alignment is lots better.

Didnt really had the time yet to figure out how to setup the internet connection through togga.

Its also very new ofcourse having a completely new interface in front of us.

Thank you everybody for the hard work on this so far !!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Setting up the connection goes like this:

-make sure an active data connection exists in WinMo

-make sure the deafult.txt contains the ppp.username & password (I've read in the vogue thread it acutally doesn't realyy matter what is filled, just that at least username should have a value.

- boot android.

- set up APN settings in settings (press menu key in home screen,press settings, -> wireless controls -> mobile networks -> Access Point Names ->delete existing apns, set up new one)

- run Togga (the bull's eye logo program in the list of programs that you drag up.

- hit connect

you are online!

settings for T-Mobile NL

Name: Tmobile

APN: internet

Proxy: not set

Port: not set

Username: tmobile

Password: tmobile

MMS proxy: 010.010.010.011

MMS port: 8080

MCC: 310

MNC: 995

APN type: not set
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Well its up and running for Vodafone NL

here is my setup for Vodafone NL

Name: Vodafone
APN: live.vodafone.com
Proxy: 192.168.251.150
Port: 8799
Username: vodafone
Password: vodafone
Server: 192.168.251.150
#MMSC: http://mmsc.mms.vodafone.nl
#MMS proxy: 192.168.251.150
#MMS port: 9201
MCC: 204
MNC: 04
APN type: blank

Havent setup MMS yet, but those settings should be it

Now I have used the internal mail client, is there also a special option for syncing google's email?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slux:
HARET Broken

I have had the exact same problem since trying out android-16-01-09.zip from DZO. Tried formatting SD card and going back to a version of haret I know worked and now I get the exact same issue - HARET.EXE - The file 'HARET' cannot be opened. Either it is not signerd with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. HELP!

May try zapping it with a new rom image see if that fixes it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
erp.. not only does it open upside-down, it doesn't go back when you close it!

Touchscreen is soooo much better, and lots of improvements overall.

EDIT: it will go back to normal sometimes, but not always... weird...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
anyone know if this project might help with the wifi?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
So far the neither of the applications Calendar and IM work. The rest is getting very good.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dasilva333:
i don't know how everyone got a copy of togga on their android from the get go, if you are like me and you can't find the app in your programs list then you should just make a folder called AndroidApps in the root of the sd card and put this file in there:

http://retrobits.googlecode.com/files/Togga_103.apk

then you can go ahead and try to use the internet, it is so weird how some people have it and some don't so i figured i'd post my method on how i got it to work, speaking of which i got the browsing to work, the google maps kinda works, and thats all i've tried.

Also of note i live in the east coast / florida and i used 310 for the MNC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MrSmileyJr:
togga crashes for me...ne idea why?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
it seems you must initiate the connection in wm before you boot. Then you can set it up and use togga to connect.

Tried out acid3, got a 93/100 :P

btw, @dzo: how's your build system set up? I'd like to start playing with all this at a code level, but I'm not sure what compilers/source repo's/etc. I need...

I'm on gentoo, if it helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dexa187:
At first I did not have the Togga app either after replacing my system.img with with the one on http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ and deleting my data.img it showed up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] THDBASED:
Just to let DZO know that the latest build works very very nice. The touchscreen needs some fine tuning but is very usable! I can make and accept a call, so that is working very good too...Because I do not have a 3G connection maybe the next thing to get working could be WIFI? :) Just a suggestion :) Oh and just one tiny bit of error, when I slide the qwerty out the screens turns the wrong way around.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
That sounds like Togga is being added when the image is being EXTRACTED. For the record I just switched on my gprs and clicked on the togga icon in Android and clicked connect and it just worked on the Polaris.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
By the way, I also received a notification: "Almost out of space, the device is running low on storage.."

Probably because I installed and opened a bit too much apps ;D

Is this in any way related to the size of the system.img or the data.img? Would increasing this in size give it more 'virtual memory'? Please ignore my n00b language, but I hope the message is clear...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dadennis:
new zImage doesn't work for me, haret simply freezes and i have to restart the phone ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fb401:
You know what's wierd? I haven't seen this anywhere else but everytime I try to go to settings I get "Unsupported action...That action is not currently supported". Am I alone in this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Must be your SD card which is full, because when I go towards Settings -> storage settings I find that my left space is 6,117 MB from my 8 GB SD card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
No, and yes at the same time! You are using an Emulator image that does not have the settings enabled, go to http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ and download the "Latest Version," then delete and replace all your files on your SD Card. Edit your default.txt to what works for you, and replace the zImage with the one you want to try then try it all again. This version i believe has some "cupcake" features in it too like the keyboard, so it is worth it.

And just a reminder to everyone, the images on that page have a data.gz when you first copy it, after running it extracts and deletes that then makes a rather large data.img that is all your settings and everything you have done while running android. If you mess up and it doesnt boot anymore (and you know its not just a bad zimage) delete the data.img and replace it with the data.gz again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
massive massive forums fail for me - I'm used to f.g.o (and phpbb in general) where qutoes stack properly, and I can see!

just look at below post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Like this:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fb401:
THAT'S the problem. I still have the old data.img & system.img in my folder. I have the new zImage and default.txt. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
what works and doesn't work for me

using latest 1-19 releases

gmail, works really nice.

calender doesn't work, niether does IM

in contacts I can't set up a sync group.

these google account functions are what I'm actually most interested in the android platform for.

Also, the screen will flip (upside down as noted) but it won't flip back.

also camera doesn't work, says i need to insert an SDcard.

Is anyone using a partitioned sdcard? does this make a difference? How do you do it? Ive been looking and downloaded about 5 programs to format it, but none that will partition it. In administrative tools computer-disk management the partitioning options are grayed out for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
yes it will. When it does that, open it all the way and close it again. If that still doesn't work, open a program (even togga will do), and do it there.

I had that issue, then it cleared up magically.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I've got 4GB and a lot of free storage in the same manner you report it... The problem lies somewhere else.

The "Manage programs" functionality show how much space every app uses, and this doesn't add up yet to 32 MB or 64 MB. I do have 471 pictures on the SD which it very nicely "thumbs" in order to shows quick and smoothly... This might create a big db of thumbs which in the end eats storage as well...

The point is: Does it refer to Android RAM (emulated?) which is partitioned (?) in the data.img, and doesn't it refer to the free storage on SD...

Any thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Where do you find the gmail email applet? cannot find anything on that in it.

Or am I looking at the wrong spot?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Nice work everyone!

After clean install, running AT&T Tilt with official WM6.1 ROM + 1.71.09.01 Radio

Modified the Default.txt file to match the AT&T Settings from shadowlines post

Copied Togga to AndroidApps folder on SD Card

Ran Haret/Android

Ran Togga and connected

Internet works.

Calls out work.

Screen flips wrong way (stupid kaiser)

You don't have to modify the APN settings in order to get the internet to work.

silasrye, you're using the 'email' app in Android? I'm really hoping for the full 'sync' of Google services. That will make the everyday use much closer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
email

yes im using the email app in android
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I read on DZOs site on the vogue that the Google Login Service in Dev tools should be used for Calender & IM to work, crashes every time I try to open it though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rocky814:
fail

ok first of let me apologize for wasting time but this is going to drive me insane. i have tried every possible configuration for this that i can think of

the most recent builds i have tried have been PDA.Corner ultimate v.16 and garmin dk.10 i have tried the two radios listed in this forum with each rom.

i have been using the latest android build and zImage. I have tried the standard default.txt and default-kaiser.txt for each scenario. I even tried making my own default.txt based on the information shadowline posted a on page 202 i believe.

either way no matter what i do, except when i get kernal panic for using the wrong default.txt, i always fail to mount the sd card.

it always stops at

mount: mounting /dev/block/mmcb1k0p1 on /sdcard failed: Invalid argument

Failed

Failed to Mount SD Card

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

#

for the record i have reformatted the card after each try and replaced every file needed to boot android each time i have tried

also something else i noticed which this might just be me not knowing any better. shadowline said that he had a msm 7201. is that standard for all tilts? because mine reported in under the device information that is is just a 7200.

again i apologize but i seem to be the only one that can't even get it to boot and it's going to drive me crazy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
yes they just renamed the chipset for some reason..but 7200 and 7201 is the same.

Rocky I hope your not getting any file from the 1st post. Theres a new build you should be using posted in the most recent posts. Let me know exactly how ur setting up android and where the files on on SD.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
from where can we get the android repo to build ourselves? or can this fix simply be put in by someone else?

btw, grabbing the htc-vogue kernel stuff now via git - there's a reason I like svn better.... still at compressing directories, 30%.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
They renamed the chip, as I used to have the 7200 until a recent warranty exchange, nothing is really different, but the naming is. Which shouldnt have any effect on anything but it can't hurt to be specific. :P

After some more testing on the new zImage, touchscreen is unusable, but data connections work without setting the APN settings if ppp.username and ppp.password are set in the default.txt.

I cannot seem to get the screen to rotate, and the button mappings are as follows on my unit.

Talk = up

Win key = down

left softkey = left

right softkey = right

IE = menu

mail = unknown, maybe tab?

ok = enter

end = back/screen on

ptt = unknown, maybe tab?

Fingerpaint application shows a worse touchscreen calibration than any other build tested with TS working.

Side ok = enter

scroll wheel = Up/Down

scroll wheel click = nothing

camera = nothing

All d-pad = nothing
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
try to ask the guys in the irc channel #htc-linux

they'll certainly be able to help out anyone able and willing to help develop!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Epicardium:
Is this what you're after?

http://source.android.com/download
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slux:
success!!

ok - finally got Android working with the latest 19-01 build. I like it - A LOT! problem is I cant seem to get the audio working. On booting it says audio is disbled. call work, but I cant hear anything on the device (remote end can hear me) music plays but no audio and no sounds.

I did try several radios - the one in the HTC 6.1 rom didnt allow calls and neither did 1.71.09.01

now using 1.64.24.36

edit - the message is ... old radio found: Audio is disabled.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rocky814:
i had been using this build and zImage

Software is as follows:

Android Vogue package from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/android-16-01-09.zip

Latest kernel from post 2016 http://xdaforums.com/show...postcount=2016 to replace the one included in the vogue package.