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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
I agree with that too...

Priorities are important...

Who cares about Haret... once its stabilized... (with wife, bt, gps)

Then we can worry about alt-methods of booting.

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I agree, and I really don't mind haret that much as once android is stable you will hardly ever have to see it. and i too cant wait till its stable enough to have a wife with bluetooth and gps. :rolleyes:

Personally the features i am waiting for in order (other than stability) is speakerphone, bluetooth, wifi, and gps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
A working nand driver (which should be trivial?) would be very nice... would certainly help people like me (who have no real interest in the particular hardware, but want to do low-level stuff to help anyway) on other endeavors... such as the bootloader.

Personally, I wouldn't mind trying to learn arm assembly and system structure - 'twould be fun :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
Lucky you... this is the only thing I get after the first list I already posted:

002847: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002852: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002853: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002857: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002860: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002861: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002865: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002866: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002871: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002872: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002873: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002879: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002880: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

...

002910: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002911: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002914: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

002919: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

...

002993: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0202c (00000800)

002994: mem GPIOS(6) 92a00c20=07e0282c (00000800)

I don't get anything else than that... if I tell it to "ibit GPIOS 6 9", it still dumps exactly the same thing. I've tried using 0.51, 0.5.2 and 0.5.3 pre 200811 version of haret, but can't get it to work... wich version of haret are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
0.5.2... what exactly are you looking for?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
The triggered gpios when bluetooth is on, and the position of the four gpios used for the actual tx and rx. I "know" there are four for tx and rx (cts, rts, rx, tx), and at least two more for enabling or disabling the chip. The problem is I don't have a kaiser, but a nike, and gpios won't be the same for both, so I can't ask for a dump or anything...

And I'm the only person working on the nike port, so nobody can do it if it's not me :(

I have the code ported to the board layout, and it compiles and attempts to start, but as I don't have them mapped correctly, it crashes when the kernel tries to probe the device:

[ 1.591763] [<c02baee8>] (dump_stack+0x0/0x14) from [<c00375ac>] (bluetooth_set_power+0x14/0x78)

[ 1.592006] [<c0037598>] (bluetooth_set_power+0x0/0x78) from [<c000f4c8>] (htcnike_rfkill_probe+0x28/0x98)

[ 1.592176] r5:c02e56c8 r4:c02e56c0

Any other method to try to find them out?

BTW, poly_poly-man, wich radio are you using? (kaiser and nike radios are compatible between devices...)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
ohh... you're working on nike? I'd try the kaiser values anyway... maybe they'll be the same (by some stroke of luck :P ). Otherwise - it seems there's only 42 GPIO's? you may need to take a look at memory instead.

umm... well... it's not really a version... I'm using the radio from the Dream... I made a post here with an nbh and how I made it...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] smokestack76:
Ok guys...i have set my apn settings. I have the G icon and the arrows tell me its sending and receiving yet the browser wont connect. Cant get anything to upload or download. Does this need to be in the Default text as well? Sorry for the n00b question :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Data connection in Android only with active data connection @ start

I thought I read the same issue in a post before, but did not find a solution. When I start Android without an active data connection I do not have a data connection with Android.

So, when I have an active data connection, data is no problem.

I am using:

DZO 23-2-2009

Latest zImage from DZO (vertical lines issue)

data.gz from milas (but is not the problem, because I also had it before)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
With the new 23-02 build, on the Polaris I have no data connection on boot in Android but if I put the APN settings in and reboot it automatically connects to 3G afterwards in Android without having to activate it in WinMo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Those are all the gpios, the 15 addresses are the in,out and out_en registers, 5 of each and each one has a different no of bits e.g. in0 is gpio 0..15 in1 is gpio 16..41 (or something like that). It's haretconsole that decodes the bit numbers so you need to install a recent version of that.

On kaiser out4-6 is 1 to enable BT. I have never looked at BT but it's on the serial port and shouldn't be too hard to get working. Try copying the trout (g1) code.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
hey dzo, do you know why we have a screen displacement on the polaris when we turn the screen on (using the latest zimage)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
I get data about once every other time...

using the radio from Dream... NOT the same as our 1.65.21.18
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
I have ported the code from the g1, and it tries to initialize on boot (so it's quite correctly ported ;) ) but Nike and Dream don't share gpios for bluetooth, neither for the camera... even the charger detect has a different pin, so I'm quite sure that's why it doesn't work.

I will flash the dream radio, then try with haret console, and see what I can get... :) thanks!

(if I get something to work you'll see it in the git :))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] PhoenixMage:
Have you installed the Power Manager from the market? I found that after I installed that app data would no longer work consistently and after uninstalling everything was fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
power manager vs

I had the power manager too, and also i installed Usefull Switchers

Together there was alot of conflict and I chose Usefull Switchers cause it looked nicer.

So you might try that only thing is

When I installed it a few days ago it was free, next day it was $1, and now its $3.

I did buy an app, advanced task manager for $1.

This brings me to my real question. Certainly I'll need to change my android files at some point, is there a way to keep my programs? I checked the androidapps folder (which once market was working I removed because I wanted to install my apps all proper). and it wasn't there. Where are the applications kept?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
No check again there is a donation version for $2.99 and a free version
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
@dzo and others: have you guys looked into running "strings" on the radio nb files? There's a hella lot of information in there...

#1. it seems there's some sort of shell running on the radio - is this possible to access?

#2.

[WCDMA] startGPS OK
[WCDMA] startGPS FAIL
@GPS: %d
[WCDMA] stopGPS OK
[WCDMA] stopGPS FAIL
s Xs
@SETGPS: %d,%d,%d,%d
@AGPSADDRESS: %s
%x:%d

just a teaser :P

EDIT: there's a lot of battery stuff in here - possible to get battery readings properly from the radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
aBook

does anyone have the aBook.apk?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
As someone here stated, you can change the font size of the terminal, so now I can work with the 336x448 reso, and it works quite well.

Only the performance was better on native reso, but I guess we'll just have to accept it.

Also, while playing around with terminal, I found that 'strings', 'strace' and 'hexdump' are there. I don't know why anyone would put these on a mobile phone, but I'm not complaining :).

I also found a (better) shell.

when you type in 'ash', there is no immidiate visual difference, but you can use the up/down keys for history. This might save you some time on the terminal.

It doesn't have tabcompletion though, but it's already better than the normal shell.

When I went to sleep, my battery was 63% according to winmo.

Then I booted Android, and let it go into sleep mode (0).

When I woke up, my kaiser was off, battery completely drained.

Better luck next time?

Oh, and afaik there are no stripes anymore on my screen :).

P.S.: How can I install an APK without enabling internet on my Android?

The AndroidApps folder doesn't seem to work, and /system is mounted readonly so I can't move it there myself either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jinth0688:
download the AppInstaller APK and put it in the AndroidApps folder then you can use that to install APK's..i noticed that some programs weren't installed automatically when you place them in the folder and some were
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Hello,

BTW terminal. Yesterday when I started terminal emulation I read /etc/passwd and then I did 'su - ' and... I got root access. After I did 'kill -9 -1' and my Android restarted. I was surprised that root access is possible with anything xtra to do. When we start terminal emulation I see that it is from other user (uid 100xx), but there is no such user in /etc/passwd.

Best Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
BTW, this would be cool to have on our kaisers... A little utopia perhaps, any thoughts?

http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/i...ard&func=view&catid=9&id=1615&Itemid=125#1615
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
I've already seen that link :).

Afaik, it works by first installing debian on top of your android (which I was going to do anyway once wifi is supported, as I use debian on all my pc's).

Then you can install an xserver and a desktop environment.

Because the xserver doesn't have drivers for our kaiser, it starts a vnc server.

Then, while that is running in background, you can connect to your own vncserver from an android vncclient, and presto: you got x and an desktop environment on android :).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thunderfox5:
How about this?

I installed the latest snapshot of Android, and all went fine. It's very useable already, though not on a daily basis for me... So I soft-reseted my Kaiser, and as soon as I went to WM6, it says the main battery is out. I connect it, but it just goes down anyways... So I turn it on again, to find the battery at 96%!

Strange thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] assangflexx:
@THunderfox5

Exactly had the same, only no one seems to react or has the same problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Funny indeed, but not strange, please be aware that it's all in a experimental/development stage, and thus things like this can happen... Thanks for mentioning though, but don't expect people to solve it within the blink of an eye...

EDIT: By the way, my contacts don't seem to synchronise anymore, and as soon as I force them, Android reboots...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] itsjapie:
With the latest version, Google Sync doesn't work for me .. Followed the troubleshooting steps on the wiki to no avail. Browsing does work though... anybody experiencing the same ?

Update: After a reboot, everything works :S
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
ooops... I tried to update the radio with the dream's and... my phone doesn't boot anymore... it doesn't even enter the bootloader so... I think I screwed up quite well...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Leave the battery out for a few min, try to enter bootloader (when off, it is power and camera buttons) try the hard reset buttons, or load a new radio on your SD card labeled KAISIMG.nbh and try bootloader again. if it doesnt work try the thread on the how to unbrick your phone.

(i havent had to do any of it myself as it fixed itself but it couldnt hurt to try it)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/02/25/paid.apps.blocked.on.g1/

Anyone read this? Could it have an impact on our kaisers running the SDK?

I don;t see any paid apps in the market, nor do my contacts sync...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
So what does this mean?

http://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185

Can someone help me out?

Is there a way then to use this to legitly back up my apps, since im going to be changing all my files eventually for new builds?

BTW, I can sync and access paid apps still,

I am using I believe I am using the 2-19 experimental build (post #3363) that DZO uploaded saying to replace all files. After that he released a pack on 2-21 (post#3408) and i replaced my system.img with that one. Since then I have not changed or updated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
devs: can we get a stable place to develop kaiser-specific userspace stuff (keyboard hooks, resolution fixes, etc.)?

There's definitely a need...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Did u notice new file/build ?!

Hello,

I just checked (daily routine) if there is new build and I discovered that today appeared NEW file (without info about it):

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/android-1.1-27-02-09.zip

Maybe author will let us know what's new inside ?

Best Regards,

edit: downloaded, unpacked, copied to Kaiser, testing after backup WM :)

system.img the same, but I found few differences, data.gz is 64MB, initrd.gz is different also
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelkordek:
sry for double post...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcelkordek:
hey found this on vogue thread...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Marcel,

this is exactly what I found - I am testing now and I will see what is going on...

Best Regards,

testing:

- OpenGL - 45 f/s

- screen res: I set 336x448

- calls are fine, Internet working, Market working

- APPS ARE NOT DOWNLOADABLE - edit: started after reboot ;)

- when screen is locked it should say: ERA (name of my operator), but it says: Polska Telefonia Cyfrowa ....

- WiFi NOT working

- BT NOT working

- speakerphone NOT working

- I cannot connect to GoogleMail to sync - when I start GoogleMail app I got: ...stopped unexpectedly... edit: works after reboot :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
BTW --- You do NOT need to skip the Google Login Sync setup at initial boot in order to setup the APN; simply hit the MENU key, and "Setup APN" is the only option. Allows you to do the APN setup without first skipping the Google Login service.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kontra303:
i cannot run android on my kaiser, i checked many bundles, there is a problem of mounting sd card:

Failed

Failed to Mount SD Card

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

#_

My microsd card: Sandisk 4GB SDHC FAT32, formatted
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k0l0r3k:
i tried to search but i couldn't find.

How to close an open application ?

and question: when i click disconnect in togga the network connection disconnects ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
k0l0r3k,

- click OK

- yes - it will disconnect
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
kontra303,

maybe bad ROM - not every ROM will work, try PDAUltimate, dutty etc. search this discussion

Is your SD card name "Storage Card" or "Karta pamieci" ?It can be a problem also.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
I think it's the same as the 02-23 build but probably with a couple fixes to get it working again on the Vogue as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kontra303:
Storage Card of course, i tried g-roms, anryls and athineos. I'll try PDAUltimate now, maybe android will run on it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
Dzo: After I change the resolution, for example, to 312 x 416 I have the screen displacement when turning on the screen (on the polaris). With the default resolution there's no problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k0l0r3k:
ok mayby the question is stupid but...

how can i get a ctrl or alt key ?

i need those keys in ssh session made by connectbot. I found only this application in market to make ssh connection.

oh i need to have two apns so my another question is how to connect to second apn on my list ? is there any possibility ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] n0r:
It already was mentioned by someone else in november last year..

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/02/26/vmware-demoes-mobile-virtualisation-with-2-operating-systems

quote from the text "The software will be embedded on handsets at the manufacturing stage, and is designed to run on devices with limited memory without straining batteries."

dont know if it is really helpfull? if not sorry for the post :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] razor1394:
I can't get a connection using my usual way of getting it with 20090227. I get the GSM icon as usual but there is no activity and Android reports that the Google connection was unsuccesful. I've checked the APN and It's correct. I also get a warning about msm being unknown argument or something like that (default.txt).

edit:

I'm using the latest PDACorner Ultimate 18.2.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
With the newest release you need to run togga first...

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
I know this has been brought up once before, but would it be possible for someone to create a MortScript that could run on startup, start HaRET, and actually hit the Run button?

Just a question/thought...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
Sorry, double-post...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
KAiser uses GSM and not CMDA.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Does that mean no network/sms usage on a GSM network? I'm guessing there is a way to enable Android to connect using GSM, but the compiled image you provided just doesn't do this (yet?)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
I actually get the error as well, but Android still boots up yet with no network connectivity. AT&T TILT flashed with Duttys Diamond ROM V1, 1.58.25.17 Radio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
There are no drivers for the GSM chipset yet.

The phone wil not work, the internet will not work.

Wifi might work.

Stop spamming.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Sorry for the stupid questions. I read the entire thread and various other sites around the internet and no where did it say this 'image' was CDMA only. I'm guessing the screenshots were from an emulated screen capture, not from the actual device.

And with respect to the 'stop spamming' comment; I realize you may get sick of reading questions and answers to which you are already knowledgeable about. Don't stifle others with your pomp; all of my posts have been relevant and productive.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Im not sick of hearing question i know about, im sick of reading the same questions over and over.

I think thats enough for now...

You're not special read the thread, yes the ENTIRE thread.

Then you can ask questions...

Thx moo for repeating youself.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] The Reaper:
Android Works...

Booted 7 times out of 8 (and that many soft resets :D) and runs smoothly, did hang twice after playing around for 5 mins though.

I used :

zimage 03-06-08

haret-20080510

OK button works as the back button almost everytime...

ROM: 3.29.707.0 WWE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
I can appreciate why you're frustrated mate but this thread is getting longer and in parts fairly technical, Some people are gonna read it and not entirely understand the situation.

Calm down and ignore questions you don't wanna deal with, someone else will probably explain eventually anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Th4rg0r:
Been thinking getting my phone penguinized and found this thread ...

Just curious anymore ever got a linux prompt on their kaiser? ... no point to me even talking about android when we can't get linux running.

eg., theoretically if haret is functioning like it should (it's not, yet), I should be able to pop a zImage of linux (compiled for ARM) with no network, no X, no keyboard, no nothing and can boot to good old linux prompt ... right?

.... don't care much about android myself, more curious whether I can run apache off it in the future ...

Th4r
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AstainHellbring:
Yes there has been people that have gotten just a standard shell prompt to play with I've done it with the angstrom initrd on the kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
If android boots, that means linux boots, and we can boot linux fine on the kaiser, we just didn't get X working yet as far as I know. And haret boots every time for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vj4:
boo

hey guys all still running on l26 diamond v8. sorry i been quiet just nothad much new to say that others handnt allready sed. is it worth changing the thread name so ppl know it has no radio? will keep an eye of new stuff to test
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] g0mib0y:
A list of what is working now.

Hi!

Great work. Wonderful will be the day when we can run linux native on our Kaisers.

Just a thing, it would be great to have a post on the first page of what currently works.

Thanx and keep up the great work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Project Environment for Windows?

Any chance we could compile Android images with Ecclipse through Windows? Pull the android source using subversion and tortoise? I'm mostly looking for someone to put together a 'how to create a zImage in Windows' like they did for Linux.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vj4:
yer man that would be grate then i could stop feeling so useless. Maybe even actualy help! lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Live cd much?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] baz:
There is also Virtualbox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) or vmware, (vmware.com) both of which work on windows and can have GNU.Linux Installed

ginge

For something slightly more on topic:- is a virtual on screen keyboard for the Kaiser any good to anyone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Th4rg0r:
hmm, thanks, just started myself ... you've just saved me some time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Th4rg0r:
... more like if linux boots stable android will boot (if it's stable) ... ? not important ... anyways ...

haret boots every time for me too, just cannot load the images. Guess it's my rom or spl differences.

X is working (however barely), if not you'll not see Android?

Th4r
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Th4rg0r:
What has subversion and tortoise has to do with "how to create a zImage in Windows"?

I know how to set up subv. and probably tortoise, but donno how to compile linux in win.

Th4r