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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
vilord is all the latest and greatest included in the complete bundle, some how I got confused with this GPS stuff and am not real sure which files to install and from where since there has been so many of them flying around. According to the google code it shows the camera able to work for one pic this doesn't apply to our kaisers? I do like the "to-do list" that is posted and the whats working list these have been needed for a while what is the chances of getting the links on the first page of this thread updated with all of the latest links that are in use some of them are old and not used anymore

Update: I tried the new bundle I did post on the google code page on an existing problem no access to the wireless controls I get a force close

GPS isn't a big deal to me I just wanted to play around with it like a new toy. I will try doing the data setup through another version then using that data.img maybe that'll work for now will update when done
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
garringm: all the latest and greatest is in the current bundle. Camera is working for vogue, but not kaiser yet.

paglioni: try renaming your data.img to something else and let it create a new one, sounds like that file may have gotten corrupted.

Everyone else:

* A polaris user is having trouble with the latest zImage, the microphone during calls is not working. Could someone here verify if it works on a kaiser?

* Can anyone point me to files where wifi is working? I'd like to see if I can get that going for you all
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cristids:
Great job

I want to thank all of you guys for your effort. Just installed the new version from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/ keeping old data.img and I have the following problems

1. I was never able to make adb work. When I connect my phone to XP I get no driver dialog (ActiveSync already installed). I tried right click and install on inf with no help. Adp still says no devices.

2. Camera not working yet, still a blank screen though the shutter sound is there ;)

3. When going to settings->wireless controls I get an error :The application settings has stoped unexpectedly. After that in exception browser I see :com.google.wireless.gdata.parser.ParseException: unable to construct GroupMembershipInfo since the group _sync_id isn't known yet, will retry later.

Thank you again for all your hard work. Really love Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
I'm in all kinds of trouble with the latest bundle "android-1.5-2009-07-07.zip". I nuked all existing files including my data.img, and copied over system.img, zImage, and initrd.gz from this zip file. Now when I boot, I see a message in the UI "Unable to read values: null return". And when I go to re-input my APN settings, I get "Sorry! The application Settings (process.com.android.settings) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. Force close."

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
ok here's what I did, rstarted fresh with 7-7 build repalced inird.gz with previous version set everything up for apn repalced initrd.gz with new version

now I got the 7-7 build working I do get the "cannot read values: null return" at boot dont know what that is.

vilord my speaker is working on a call just so you know

What is being used to test GPS I downloaded GPS status 2 from market I'm not sure if my GPS is working I do get the Icon but I'm not getting a lock do I have to initialize it in winmo first is the libgps.so not needed now?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] billbakers:
I got the GPS to work for AT&T Tilt by initilizing in WinMo first. Would not work otherwise. I also have to initilize data in Winmo for it to work also.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Hello,

How did you do the initilizing of the GPS in WinMo? did you just open say google maps?

thanks

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] billbakers:
I used Nav4All and watched the GPS info. I am sure getting your location using Google maps or Live search would do the same thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
Maybe try without keeping the old data.img?

You can back it up and revert any time you want...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
garringm: so you can go into wireless settings with the previous version of the initrd but not the latest one? That gives me somewhere to start.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I tried using just straight 7-7 build but then wiped sd card clean and started again but repalcing with the initrd.gz that I downloaded from mediafire a few post back then I was able to do all my data setup then as I said booted back to winmo and repalced with the new initrd.gz still cant acces wireless controls but atleast all of my data, sync, market, mail all works we had this issue back in feb - mar some versions just worked better mixed and matched, but I'm assuming this new one has all the updated gps stuff in it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
vilord, by replacing the initrd.gz with the one posted on mediafire last night, I was able to define the APN settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cristids:
Already tried, no go. Still unable to access wireless controls .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Vilord, wifi is something I'm somewhat familiar with (not the kernel part unless you've got a cliff's notes on that) but with 1.0 and 1.1 we didn't have the wake_lock issues I've posted about before.

As for builds, they have to be the older ones and you can have your pick from before May I believe. dzo's repos have them all and I would probably recommend 3-12 for the most stable one for wifi at least.

So many pages to go through here so sorry about credit for findings (daedric, markya32, poly poly man, etc.) and the forums are lagging now so I'll update this as I find relevant points.

This is the script originally that would define tiwlan0 and assign an arbitrary IP. Original sauce here. No idea if it actually found or connected to an AP. This is what my "swifi" script is that I and Okibi had in our images at least for a little while:

cp /system/etc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf
/data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf

insmod /system/lib/modules/wlan.ko

wlan_loader -f /system/etc/wifi/Fw1251r1c.bin -e /proc/calibration
-i /system/etc/wifi/tiwlan.ini

cd /data/local/tmp
wpa_supplicant -f -Dtiwlan0 -itiwlan0
-c/data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf &

ifconfig tiwlan0 192.168.2.30 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig tiwlan0 up

With Cupcake, the error is:

when running wlan_loader -f ...

Daedric found a bunch of things about it (paraphrasing some):

in dzo's config:

There was a commit in Cupcake that moved power.h:

Also says we are probably missing the userspace support for the wake locks. I don't know why they're needed but they certainly are:

config USER_WAKELOCK
bool "Userspace wake locks"
depends on WAKELOCK
default y
---help---
User-space wake lock api. Write "lockname" or "lockname timeout"
to /sys/power/wake_lock lock and if needed create a wake lock.
Write "lockname" to /sys/power/wake_unlock to unlock a user wake
lock.

I really could keep going and probably will. But that's a good start I think
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
@gleonard3 I am having no problems whatsoever with data doing hat I did as a matter of fact I am writing this out on my tilted android which I do most of the time sine I am without PC anymore
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Double post
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] NarSan:
when we can expected working WIFI?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
i cant go to wireless settings to :| cant set an APN ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I would try as I did it working great for me, has anyone looked into making this a fully flashable rom? And not to be pushy but is there an application developer that can make a task manager for these ion builds
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
It's a permission issue-- app needs it to kill processes. It's better the way it is but it would nicer to have the task manager.

So to get GPS working, I download the 7-7 bundle but need to add what from a mediafire link?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
the 7-7 bundle has everything currently available for gps.

you will apparently need to initialize it in windows first, so I hear...

I have fixed things so that su does not require a password, is it still not working with the task managers?

Wifi will work eventually.

A full flashable build will be ready eventually.

Dialing out will work eventually for those it is currently broken.

Bluetooth will work eventually.

Speakerphone will work eventually.

Did I miss anything? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Thanks, figured the build had the latest, not that I have ever used GPS on my phone or anything. Advanced Task Manager still not able to access running apps.

Can you tell me why I can't get my initrd's to boot?

gzip -cd ../initrd.gz | cpio -i
find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../myinitrd.gz

and I even su'd as root. Still freezes at bluetooth configuration on the console. Files are owned by root. It's frustrating to say the least. I'm trying to do these changes if someone can't help me make a file then make one with this or explain why it won't work:

create wake_lock file where /sys/ is first called (to ensure it's mounted already):

Why are they set to disabled? That can't help wifi to work..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
Yup. Works for me now too. Bad service area at that time I'm presuming. Couldn't get a reliable data connection. All good now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
For the record, I have never had to do anything in WinMo first in order for GPS to work in Android. It just works for me. Nice!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
voice record

So I was wondering if this issue has been addressed in the past. I've been following for awhile and havent seen anything on it. but whenever i use apps like voice dial or voice search it immediately says try again. not sure if im just missing something or if this hasnt been developed yet.

And also shazam isn't working... anybody else get it to work? Not sure if it's because of the above issue or not...

And also in regards to the task manager not working. I've been using TasKiller (found in the market) and although it doesn't have the same features as the advanced one, it still closes running apps just fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BlackBsd:
I am also having this issue with the 7-7 package. You are able to do to Data synchronization and set the APN that way.

I also have had issues with the kernel running on my tilt for recently 8 weeks now. I have noticed that with the newest kernel built on 7-7-9 these issues are no longer present, sweet.. Now i can begin using 1.5.. I have been using the packaging from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/ which seems to be working great, thanks to all the devs.

I have noticed some differences in this new system. The screen orientation gets confused when the user opens the screen causing the screen to get stuck in the wrong orientation. btw, I have an AT&T Tilt. I have been able to fix the issue by selecting the home key, i.e. the internet explorer button.

As i mentioned above, selecting the Wireless Controls from the Settings menu does do a Force Close. So anything other than APN's, which i set using the data synch option, I cannot access this menu.

Another issue, for some reason, is my GPS information seems to put me into the wrong area, not sure what is happening here.

Thanks guys.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Al of you issues have been addressed within the last 5 pages or so
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
They are disabled because android will start them up on its own (with the wireless settings panel, once I fix that). It doesn't want them starting at boot, it wants to start them when it is ready for them.

If you want, you could try pulling the initrd git from http://github.com/vilord/android-initrd you might have more luck modifying and rebuilding that.

As for the wake_lock and wake_unlock, you can't create things in /sys, they have to be put there by the kernel. I'm trying to figure out what will turn userspace wakelocks back on, may be a simple option.

Okay, uploaded a new initrd to google code that should fix the wireless settings panel... wifi still likely won't work as that needs a kernel modification

by the way, if you put a script as /sdcard/initrdupdates/bootscript.sh it should be executed at startup

EDIT: Okay, user wakelocks were new for 2.6.27, and we're still on 2.6.25. Ugh. That is the same reason we don't have working bluetooth.

But yeah, grab the new initrd to get into your wireless settings panel
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Always with the simple, logical answers... I'll try git but I don't see why it would make a difference. At any rate, you've pretty much negated any reason to bother if I need to be working on the kernel. Too bad I can't find anything on how to even get started with it. I've done some tweaks for x86 Linux kernels but ARM and Android and ril? That's a stretch for me. If you can post a link or any info on how to help, let me know.

I'm looking for a decent GPS app for WinCE since GPS won't connect in Android. I'll try to connect there before booting Android. I guess I'm a statistic. If I turn off GPS in Android after, will that hit battery performance? Normally I wouldn't think that would be an issue but if srwalter hacked Window's RPC calls and it needs WinCE to connect before booting then obviously something is carrying over through Haret. Seems like turning off GPS in Android wouldn't actually do that hardware-wise.

Thanks again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tylerwhall:
What's your radio version? I'm repeating the GPS RPC calls I traced in winmo on a KAIS100 with radio 1.71.09.01.

From what we've gathered, there are 3 sets of RPC commands for GPS. There is an enable, a disable, and a "poke." Enable starts GPS from an uninitialized state, but you have to periodically send the "poke" command to keep positional data coming. Initializing in winmo might work if the poke command is still the same. I'd be interested to find out if that made a difference.

If the disable command is different, it would probably hurt battery life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
i know that on vogue you don't need to initialize gps in windows first.

But, it does need to be working.

For a windows GPS app, I'm actually pretty happy with google maps :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
You guys are doing great. Get that Wifi working and im sending a nice donation to the first person to get it working!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
All of you are wondering when Wifi will be working. If you want to help the Developers want to put more time into wifi support go here!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4095252#post4095252
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
For me GPS does not have to be enabled in Winmo. I have never user GPS in winmo with the current radio or rom that Im using.

just me maybe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cristids:
Downloaded initrd.gz from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/ that should "Fix the wireless settings panel" but still is not working on a fresh install (no data.img)

I am using a Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Rom: AthineOS WWE (10/27/08)

Radio: 1.65.24.36

Carrier: Cingular

Model: ATT Tilt/Kais160

I haven't actually tried to GPS yet but I tested it in Google Maps back in the day when I just got the phone. I'll see if that makes any difference but is there something I can do to help determine the calls it makes? My battery says Kais160 so I think I'm on a newer phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
Ok, just my 2 cents.

I found out that using 324x432 resolution, my system has gone a lot faster. Now it loads pictures fast as hell, and goes through menus with very soft animations (i've enabled this in settings). Text is much more clear than 336x448 too.

I have been playing around with 300x400, 336x448, 360x480 and HVGA resolutions, but 324x432 is the best so far, IMHO.

Thank you for your work, guys, this proyect is near to its final success.

P.S.: Last initrd solved Wireless controls bug for me, using old data.img. GPS gives me my exact location, but refresh is a bit slow. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
This works well on the Polaris too.. thanks! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lhaig:
Hi,

I have a question regarding the Kaiser Tytan II and the new 1.5 Android.

I have been checking back regularly on this project as I would live to get rid of my Wimo on this phone. I have been able to get the 3g stuff working the gmail setup completed and almost all the other things that were broken in the past.

I have tried running as per the instructions on the wiki and I can get android started and am able to use the interface but it seems that I have no sound.

I have tried seraching the foruims for posts or if there are issues regarding the sound on the 1.5 version but I am unable to find any.

I currently run android from an sd card (I do want to partition it later on)

Some information on the phone.

Windows Mobile 6.1

MSM7200-400MHz

ROM 3.0 Sleuth WWE

Radio 1.64.08.21

Thanks for the help

Lance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
working wifi menu! working data!

everything backs to normal!

just one thing..

in this version.. the power led (green) is always turned on!

dont get the point hum
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
the led should be solid amber when charging, then solid green when fully charged and still plugged in.

It should also either be solid or flashing green when you have a new notification
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
aah new goodies! :D

i think the notification led never worked .. so i was surprised to see it working.. now i see is for notifications :D

thanks... ill take the liberty to post an updated bundle with last init with wifi menu fixed :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
coma

In regards to this unwakeable coma that some of experience is it possible to write in the code somewhere to do a wake up sequence every 10 minutes or so without enabling the backlight when it goes into the power collapse I know this would be somewhat detrimental to the battery life or is this what changing the sleep mode setting in the default.txt does. This has happened to my phone twice today I don't know how many others are experiencing this problem I have only read of a couple others.

I can remember seeing my led's flash before didn't really pay attention to them a whole lot though, the ones I liked were the ones seidler had done several months ago almost acted like a HDD led on a PC (I'm easily amused)

My left green led just came on solid and my right led is blinking green, my battery is around 50% charged and not plugged in charging and I have no notifications
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
I have experienced said coma as well. I have yet to figure out what actually causes it though, because its not always a really long sleep that will cause it to happen. Some times I can go all day with out one, and other days it can happen a couple times in a short period of time... For myself I don't think it has ever happened will being charged (at least on recent builds).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
I like to live on the edge. Android is my primary OS on the phone. The phone is my only alarm clock.

Coma effect gave me some extra sleep this morning (and some customer's had to wait a little longer)

We've got to nail this one down. This coma effect may cause one to miss important phone calls or sleep in when you don't want to.

Jesse & Matrin, it seems that since the 7/7 build package I started getting the coma effect. With the files I was using before that, it wasn't happening. I save my old working system image, kernel, and initrd before I go to any new version, so if I gave you the file size of these specific files would that help in identifying which ones they were? Maybe we could then track down what has changed, and what is causing the issues.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
Better than filesize, do a quick md5/sha1 on them and give us the hash :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Haven't had the coma of doom since the first, excluding the third, ION build. We need a way to log the activity. I'd posted before, but you see in the root console the endless power related messages being echoed? Or just boot Android with the charger plugged in and let the messages commence.

I'm not sure where they are generated from I'm sure one of you l33t hackers do. Can someone just simply "> /sdcard/powerlog.log" the stream?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
I'm not sure what was changed that would affect things. I think martin made some changes to the cpld code, that may be causing the coma.

Could you try using an old zImage and see if that helps? It won't do me much good to know which group of files worked and which ones didn't, because there were many changes in all the different areas...

But only the zImage had changes at all related to power and low-level functionality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rick_payp:
This is really nice! If wi-fi is going to work, I'm going to use it fulltime :D

How is the developing going for the wi-fi?

Keep up the good work guys!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Here is the info from the zImage I was using and didnt have any of the coma issues with:

# MD5 checksums generated by MD5summer (http://www.md5summer.org)

# Generated 7/8/2009 8:26:47 PM

e7934b143cc84e35c1a5ac72d484ac36 *zImage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
All of you are wondering when Wifi will be working. If you want to help the Developers want to put more time into wifi support go here! Were at $65 USD In donations so far! Lets get some more everyone the developers are going to be motivated by this! :D (Well they should lol...The first developer getting wifi working is getting some pay now)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=4095252#post4095252
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
I had this problem even in 1.1 when I use pm.sleep_mode 1.

If I use 0 my battery drains fast but I don't have the problem anymore.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
So I have edited my startup.txt (default.txt)... I removed the clock.mddi variable, set the panel type to #2. There was an update DZO posted about a while ago mentioning that since upgrading the video driver the clock.mddi was not needed.

Who knows, maybe these changes will help the random coma of doom (RCOD)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
Please, stop asking for donations with big letters. It's sad and... you know...

Devs have a link to donate on their signature or where they want it, and your words doesn't help in anything.