yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Really? I just posted about that and explained how you could get around it if you wanted.

Either way, it seems to be in popular demand, so here is a copy of data.gz from the android-kaiser-23-02-09.zip that will extract to 128M.

I just tested it and it worked, it actually does not add very much time to first boot up. With a few apps installed on first boot up I am showing 87MB of "internal phone storage" available.

Here goes: http://rapidshare.com/files/202182396/data.gz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Thanks milas, I haven't had access to my linux drive since I toasted it. (and I would loose too much to split my windows drive)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] devonian69:
Gotcha, I only asked since that new release was to test the issues with verticle lines on the screen. Its possible it was tested on a more stripped down or less activated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
I've been testing the powerusage a bit with the program: "power manager" available from the marketapp.

I charged my kaiser to the max wich was in powermanagerapp about 98%

Now it has been 3hours and its still on 85%.

Guess the powercolapse is working now without vertical line problems :D

Great job dzo !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
Thank you Milas, but I can't get Android to boot with that data.gz. I tryed deleting all android files and starting over but it still didn't work. The data file should be placed in the SD directory, right?

Edit: Doh, It installed, I am just impatient. x_x. Going to test now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
so... is android locking for anyone with the latest stuff?

when I hit the red button, it appears to powercollapse (panel turns off and all), but a touch to the touchscreen, any button press, etc. bring it right back to where it was (not the unlock screen).

If your lock works, post your default.txt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
As for Milas data.gz post ...

I booted android using the newest build along with your data.gz...It worked as in made my storage big, I now have 89 mb of free space on my internal phone storage ...

But I am still getting the "too full" message when I try to download anything (apps, photos off of browser, etc ...)

any other ideas?

I am using AT&T service.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] braproductions:
wifi

Without a data plan, i need wifi to work. Bad :). I have been looking around the thread and can't find much beneficial info on the the development of stable wifi on android. So, any update on wifi or anything i can do to make it work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
Power collapse for me works again without the vertical lines problem. Had to go through alot of trouble though. The phone comes out of power collapse with every button but only the button with the windows logo (on the left, down side) unlocks it.

Somehow i got the feeling that the phone stores the last mddi resolution settings somewhere because even after completely erasing my sd card (putting new partitions and all) the resolution stuck to a strange very low setting after something went wrong. Ill see if i can reproduce this and document the findings later.

For the default.txt i use:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I am having problems connecting again (like before... :confused:)

But I did find a useful link to check out for all apn settings for Android.

http://modmygphone.com/wiki/index.php/Carrier_APN_Settings#AT.26T

Hope it helps anyone else while i tinker away with trying to get mine working.

Hmm android seems to be connected to the internet (yes i have done apn settings) but the 'g' icon is missing and not allowing the google login to work. really odd....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
market

everything seems to be working for me but when i try to download a app from the market i have no success.... it starts the downloading bar but never starts up?

using att tilt with the newest build and the new test zimage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
OK, got mine working fully!

Vario 3 on T-Mobile UK (Kais130)

Using:

android-kaiser-23-02-09.zip package but with

data.gz from milas

zImage-test from dzo (25th Feb) using default.txt:

dzo's zImage fixed the non responsive issue after power collapse.

Once I've entered APN into wireless settings I get 'G' icon, and then after running Togga, I can sync with Google and download and install apps from marketplace.

I had issues the first time GMail tried to sync but rebooted and reloaded Android and it worked then.

I've zipped my working files up if anyone wants to try them....

http://rapidshare.com/files/202235816/android-kaiser-23-02-09-fdrzrich.zip.html

Someone will need to mirror if useful as only 10 downloads allowed!

[edit] Youtube isn't working - crashed phone on 'loading video' landscape screen. All other apps requiring data are working (and can download them from marketplace!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
Thank you! I am going to give it a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Weird. I wish I could help you more, but I don't have the issue at all and I am not sure what could be causing it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
I guess its something particular in my phone then cause I tried using the stuff a few posts above me and it worked other than the fact I still can't download anything. Says I need to clear up space. but I have 90mb internal available. Market downloads stop instantly and say "download unsuccessful"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
With the latest zimage from dzo the screen is displaced after I turn the screen on (after turned it off) on my polaris.

Anyone else has this problem (on kaiser)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Smultie:
Damn, with the screen set to 240x320, everything looks really nice, just a bit too big. Is there a way to make the fontsize changeable??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
It seems like the battery meter is not giving the correct information or at least not the same % as winmo does. Once my battery is full in winmo, i boot to android and battery is at 96%. I was watching my battery and it reached 30-40% and then soon after it turned off, winmo said it was near 10% :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
The battery callibriation is not good indeed. As far as I know the calibration of the kaiser and the polaris are the same (the battery on the polaris is also full at 96-97%).

@smultie: I think the resolution 336x448 is a very good resolution. With this resolution the screen is as big as the cupcake version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Smultie:
Radem, indeed, the 336x448 resolution works quite well, but is nowhere near as sharp as the 240x320 (natural) resolution. I also notice a speedincrease when using 240x320.

So therefor imho, using the native resolution would be better in more than 1 way. "We" just need to find a way to make the fontsize scaleable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
Although native reso with scalable fonts would look perfect, I think a lot of apps wouldn't work well.

I do prefer native reso when apps work, but when they don't I'll stick around with 336x448.

Now I got a question: how do I install an apk file? I tried putting it in \Storage Card\Android\AndroidApps folder, enabled 3d party programs in the settings of android, rebooted a few times, but it doesn't get installed.

According to the installation instructions I should use adb, but I don't have adb on my android.

I'm trying to install ConnectBot, internet (like Android Market) is no option.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adthor:
Had the same situation. Could connect to the web, but no G icon. I set the correct MCC MNC in the 'Android' APN for my carrier. G appeared and the google login then worked. Left all other details in the APN as they were from the install (23-2-09) package.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joannerve:
I´m sorry I know this is not my section. I´m from Nike section but nobody help me

I only can get installed a bootkit and with this I can't make calls and to sent sms, no battery status and no net status and other bugs. Its the only bookit I can get installed. All the others, more newer included don't. I only get or a freezed progress line at the end in booting with haret or begining linux a waiting for sd....or others. My sd is formated with fat32 , 800mb free and 52 free ram at ppc and all files extacted to root of sd card. My radio 165.29.22 and the last wm 6.1 official rom htc touch dual . Tried with differents mmtypes. Someone can help me?. Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
@dzo: Latest info about test kernel

Hi dzo, so far I haven't encountered any more white lines issues, but this zImage somehow forgets to initialise radio, so to run data services I have to connect in WinMo to initialise radio and than run hret and boot while connected. Otherwise togga says there is problem with initialising radio and no connection can be made within Anroid...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
well now I have some results to show my phone has been standby for about 12hours now and its 62% so finally android survives the night :D

But I noticed a strange call problem, someone called me I could pick up but after a long black screen. Then I couldnt hear nooone, and the other end couldnt hear me but the call was connected in androids oppinion.

I'm sure that I have made calls on the same session before, ah well reset repeat :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Smultie:
I'm having different results with being able to (be) call(ed) as well. Sometimes I can answer, but hear nothing,

sometimes I can't hang up after a call.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knopper:
How to build image (system.img) for kaiser

I'v tried with system.img building from master source for ARM cpu but the kernel doesn't load this image.

How i can customize it.

thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
First, I've heard from several other people that they can't boot the current git build, so this may not be your fault.

Second, as I can see from your signature, you got a fairly outdated system.

Try a newer (winmo6.1) rom and a newer radio.

For radio you'd need at least 1.65.xx.xx , but I'm using the latest 1.71.xx.xx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jspetrino:
old roms do work

That’s not necessarily true.

If this is any help to anyone, I am running everything fine on my end with older radios/roms

G. DK4 Rom

1.58.25.17 radio

I do not have a data plan so I can not verify Data works but all features are up and running otherwise that have been worked out. The only issue I have from time to time is ever increasing call volume and the caller hearing echo on their end.

-John
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
clock doesnt synchronize

I cant get the clock set properly. When I set to to sync with the network, it doesnt do anything. When I set the clock manually, it doesnt function correct either. For example, I am in central US time zone, so it should be set to GMT-6, but if I do that, the time will be wrong, so I have to manually adjust it. That is fine, but it resets back to GMT after every reboot. And if I set it to GMT and manually set the time correctly, the time will show correctly, but google calender will be off by 6 hours. Can this be fixed in the next release so it synchronizes with the network automatically?

Thanks for all the time and effort you guys put into this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
Ringtones

I have basically everything working I recommand that ppl dl a app called power man (to check battery performance) and close everything (closes all running apps). The only thing that crashes on me which I want is trying to select a ringtone. This worked in earlier builds. Oh if you want an iPhone SMS app dl SMS chomp (it runs the iPhone keyboard!) That reminds me where is the onscreen keyboard!?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
Hi everyone!

I'm looking for some way of making haret dump the gpio changes. I tried with watch gpios, with a 1 second interval, but instead of dumping the 104 gpios it just shows 14...

000000: mem GPIOS(0) 92b00800=00000003 (00000000)

000000: mem GPIOS(1) 92a00c00=00000800 (00000000)

000000: mem GPIOS(2) 92b00804=00060008 (00000000)

000000: mem GPIOS(3) 92b00808=00004000 (00000000)

...

000000: mem GPIOS(13) 92b00818=003e6501 (00000000)

000000: mem GPIOS(14) 92b0081c=00000060 (00000000)

I do know that there are 105 gpios + the ones from the cpld starting at 128, but I can't find a way to make them show on haret. I built a function to read them from the kernel but I need to read them before the jump to trace the bluetooth state and i/o, and on omap platforms (if I remember it right) this same command dumped a beautiful table with the direction (input output) and the value, but can't get to do it with this...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
don't ask why, but that's correct - it'll say that it's only watching 14. Then (on mine, at least), it'll print out all 105 values and start watching them.

After I've ibit'd a bunch out:

HaRET(5)# watch GPIOS 1
Beginning memory tracing.
Watching GPIOS(00): Addr 92b00800(@a9200800)
Watching GPIOS(01): Addr 92a00c00(@a9300c00)
Watching GPIOS(02): Addr 92b00804(@a9200804)
Watching GPIOS(03): Addr 92b00808(@a9200808)
Watching GPIOS(04): Addr 92b0080c(@a920080c)
Watching GPIOS(05): Addr 92b00834(@a9200834)
Watching GPIOS(06): Addr 92a00c20(@a9300c20)
Watching GPIOS(07): Addr 92b00838(@a9200838)
Watching GPIOS(08): Addr 92b0083c(@a920083c)
Watching GPIOS(09): Addr 92b00840(@a9200840)
Watching GPIOS(10): Addr 92b00810(@a9200810)
Watching GPIOS(11): Addr 92a00c08(@a9300c08)
Watching GPIOS(12): Addr 92b00814(@a9200814)
Watching GPIOS(13): Addr 92b00818(@a9200818)
Watching GPIOS(14): Addr 92b0081c(@a920081c)
000.000 GPIOS out0=00000001: out0-0=1
000.000 GPIOS out1=00000800: out1-11=1
000.000 GPIOS out2=00060008: out2-3=1 out2-17=1 out2-18=1
000.000 GPIOS out3=00024000: out3-14=1 out3-17=1
000.000 GPIOS out4=00000198: out4-3=1 out4-4=1 out4-7=1 out4-8=1
000.000 GPIOS in0=00000001: in0-0=1
000.000 GPIOS in1=07f03818: in1-3=1 in1-4=1 in1-11=1 in1-12=1 in1-13=1 in1-20=1 in1-21=1 in1-22=1 in1-23=1 in1-24=1 in1-25=1 in1-26=1
000.000 GPIOS in2=01f61f4e: in2-1=1 in2-2=1 in2-3=1 in2-6=1 in2-8=1 in2-9=1 in2-10=1 in2-11=1 in2-12=1 in2-17=1 in2-18=1 in2-20=1 in2-21=1 in2-22=1 in2-23=1 in2-24=1
000.000 GPIOS in3=0106e000: in3-13=1 in3-14=1 in3-15=1 in3-17=1 in3-18=1 in3-24=1
000.000 GPIOS in4=0000019c: in4-2=1 in4-3=1 in4-4=1 in4-7=1 in4-8=1
000.000 GPIOS out0_en=00008001: out0-0=1 out0-15=1
000.000 GPIOS out1_en=000fcc80: out1_en-7=1 out1_en-10=1 out1_en-11=1 out1_en-14=1 out1_en-15=1 out1_en-16=1 out1_en-17=1 out1_en-18=1 out1_en-19=1
000.000 GPIOS out2_en=01fe3f09: out2_en-0=1 out2_en-3=1 out2_en-8=1 out2_en-9=1 out2_en-10=1 out2_en-11=1 out2_en-12=1 out2_en-13=1 out2_en-17=1 out2_en-18=1 out2_en-19=1 out2_en-20=1 out2_en-21=1 out2_en-22=1 out2_en-23=1 out2_en-24=1
000.000 GPIOS out3_en=02ba4400: out3_en-10=1 out3_en-14=1 out3_en-17=1 out3_en-19=1 out3_en-20=1 out3_en-21=1 out3_en-23=1 out3_en-25=1
000.000 GPIOS out4_en=00000060: out4_en-5=1 out4_en-6=1

that's for one second, after all the noisy ones were ibit'd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
test of new build

AT&T tilt user with pdacorner's latest rom and a 1.7x.xx radio

working--- incoming, outgoing calls (havent asked if echo is still happening)... SMS and MMS!. Internet Connection is perfect (input the at&t apn and now all i have to do to get on the net and get off the net is use Togga). Market working (can download anything i want). importing contacts from sim card works, Battery connection perfect ( i have no problems with my battery draining... actually my battery life is great! unless my battery monitoring program does not work, I use power man from the market.

Non Working- GPS and BT, no speakerphone, no onscreen keyboard, cant change my ringtones (just notices that this build does not have any ringtones pre installed!), no way to sync stuff off your comp onto the phone yet, still many programs crash and cant run like voice dialer, voice search and youtube videos, Camera is a no go, oh and screen resolution sucks for me.

how can i change screen resolution? do i have to go back to changing the default text and then rebooting haret?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] markya23:
I've been trying to look into the lack of a 3G icon but I've run into a bit of a wall. Has dzo provided the source for his kaiser RIL? I've found a diff for the vogue one on his site but I suspect that it's different!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
I've been wondering the same thing. I see all the people in this thread trying different screen resolutions, and I've tried modifying my default.txt with different values but the resolution never changes. I even tried a fresh copy of the files in the ZIP file with the modified default.txt, still nothing.

Is there something that I am missing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Some default.txts have two set cmdlines, one of which is commented out (preceded by a #). Make sure that you're not modifying that line.

Also, try making a reasonably drastic switch (i.e. 240x320 to 320x480) and see if you notice the difference.

Also, you are using a new zImage/system.img/data.gz/etc. that supports resolution changing, right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
I believe we're using the same RIL for both - and including both CDMA and GSM stuff in there...

and also, I don't believe he's technically allowed to give it to anyone, given the status of certain aspects of it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
My default.txt is currently set to 320x480, and its the line without the hash mark (#). I'm using the same release stated in my signature (2/23).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
This might be one of my airy fairy ideas (I have many! :rolleyes: ) but what would it take to create a dual boot bootloader that gives the option to boot into Windows or Android? S basically booting into Android without touching windows using the current "filesystem on storage card" method or booting into windows normally.

I mean we're still in development so winmo is still needed for the functions that dont work - or work not so well on Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
that would be awesome to have a dual boot bootloader!..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
well, it's a good idea, and completely impossible (or at least hideously ridiculously hard to do...)

First of all, remember the hell we went through trying to make sd cards work properly? well, we'd have to do it again, in a bootloader.

But, let's assume that we tried to fit both on onboard storage (could be done, with not much room left over). We'd need to keep windows in the first position, then put android after (windows hard-codes some offsets). We'd need to be able to flash both to the rom... we'd need a consistent cut-off point.

It would be great if we could do it, but I don't think we can.

I do think that trying to boot android on its own nbh might be a good idea - while there is stuff that doesn't work, we will be able to tell what works without winmo's help and what still needs that first step.

maybe das-U-boot?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Yea... I gotta agree dual booting would be rediculously hard / impossible.

Definately should be sticking android loader in the nbh.

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Hello,

I tried Android today. I used last build + files from dzo and milas and... it's working OK !

But:

- WiFi needed - I do not want to use GSM network (is there possibility to use 3G), because I have to pay for it and it is not so fast as WiFi of coz.

- can I change screen resolution - via default.txt? I noticed few posts above that it is possible.

- speakerphone is not working - when I got call I cannot switch to speakerphone - not working.

- market is working

- syncing with GMail seems be working, because I have all email addresses in Contacts

- how to use contacts from HTC Kaiser (not SIM contacts) ???

Best Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
* Are your contacts all "Outlook Contacts"?

Because mine are, and im dreading going through every contact changing it to sim contacts, so atleast they will show in android ....unless theres an easier way.:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
if you do not already have a exchange server, i would suggest syncing your windows mobile contacts to the gmail server which then syncs them back to android. Works great for me now that it works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
correct me if i am wrong, but if we have a currently working sd driver now, we dont have access to the nand yet, so using a nbh is pointless if the linux system can not see itself because it does not have driver to load the hardware its filesystem is on.

So before a bootloader, before anything, you need nand access from linux
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
22 hours without a problem

After using Android for more than 22 hours I am going to restart Android. I downloaded the '128MB' data.gz from milas.

I received multiple phone calls, made some calls and received SMS messages. Earlier I wrote it would be nice to have a working GPS, now I changed my mind to working bluetooth. Then I can drive in my car without looking out for cops when I use my phone while driving :)

Let me see if I can use it now for more than 24 hours.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
first priority?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
Go to SIM manager in winmo (should be in programs, on most roms if not all).

Menu->contacts to sim->menu->check all->save
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Sync your phone to your desktop w/ Active Sync and Outlook

Export your contacts CSV, upload to Gmail

Then either use google sync for your contacts

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Of course that works too and is easier, but it only does number and name though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Sync contacts - the full pull

I use the google calendar sync app for calendar & contacts from outlook -> gmail.

http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955

Also use google sync for winmo.

http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sync.html

And now Android has all contacts as well! And all vice versa... Sweeeeet!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
Hello,

thanks for fast responses! I will sync from WM to Gmail and then I will sync with Gmail - I think it will be faster and I will have all data about people - not only name/phone.

Best Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
Im not a dev so i wouldn't allow myself to define priorities.

but in order to be able to run android from nand like you seem so eager to try, i guess a working nand driver is absolutely needed.

I dont agree with you on the kernel dev priority, I think it would be more productive to try to have a fully working kernel before trying to build a bootloader in order to try to boot an uncomplete kernel in an incomplete userland. but again thats just my opinion as i am not able to participate in dev.