yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Well, I'm currently not aware of any possibility to make it application specific, so I think I'll need to add a kernel boot option.

I see the thing about the menu button: There are different Kaiser versions out there, so for example I have a T-Mobile MDA, and the "Start" key is really small, that's why I changed it to the softkeys, which are much bigger. But I saw pictures of other versions where it is just the other way around - so another kernel boot option? I guess so.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I did read...it's just that you have to scroll all the way over to see the board-kaiser-keypad command, so I didn't see it at first. And board-htckaiser-panel_type is a very similar command, so I thought that must have been what I was supposed to change.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
+1 vote for the jog wheel controlling volume, and I also agree with this quote.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
ive been having problems with downloading also i read somewhere it has to do with signng into your gogle account (they specified using gtalk) but i cant figure it out. Its really frustrating though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Niscandia:
I had some trouble with downloading apps from the market place. Found an older post somewhere in this huge thread, that mentioned formatting your micro sd card. After backing up my SD card (and in doing so finding it had some minor directory corruption) and formatting it. The Google Marketplace worked just fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
thanks for the heads up i'll try that. It used to work fine. and on a clean build (before a soft redt) the market place seems to be working fine, the problem is occuring after a reset for some reason.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] excogitation:
Just a quick question - is the RC E100 headset working in Android on Kaiser (or Vogue)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Don't be lazy, don't skim through material. Reading the whole thing may take more time initially but may also save you a lot of time and even money later on.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I'm not lazy, but oookay.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Internet Access

Hello All,

Sorry to repost this, but I can not find the response to it before, I had a email saying that I had a reply but I can not find it, I just read that the site was hacked. Sorry to hear this.

Any how I am still not able to get on the internet with my phone, if someone that uses ATT could help I would be grateful!!!

I have try a number of things, with and with out passwords (ATT says its not needed any mroe) in the default and not in the default. Help please if I can get the internet working for the most part then I don't have to use crapy windows

Thanks,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
Try this Default.txt and make sure you are using the lastest build.

#alloctest 0x2000
set RAMSIZE 0x07000000
set RAMADDR 0x10000000
set FBDURINGBOOT 0
set MTYPE 1553
set KERNEL zImage
#set initrd "initrd.gz"
set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"
#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"
#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"
#
# The following kernel parameters are useful
# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing #777
# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777
# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller
# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off
# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,
# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt
# Default is 3, use 0 for best power savings
# board-htcvogue.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on
# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)
# 1=Hitachi 2=Topoly 3=Samsung
#
set cmdline "pm.sleep_mode=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1 mddi.width=336 mddi.height=448 board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 board-htckaiser.panel_type=3"
# fbcon=rotate:1
# console=ttyMSM0"
boot

And for the record, there isnt one thing ive seen Android do better then winmo yet. Im not trying to start anything, but thats imo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
I right now would agree with you, I do got to say I like the interface better, I also got to say I don't like Microsoft and another OS even if right now its not better but works is better then supporting M$ :-)

Any how thanks for the default, it appeared to be the same as the one I have but I replaced it anyhow, I would like if you could send me what you have in your APN settings, also is this stuff apply for the 3g or just for wap? thanks

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
Something interesting to mention.

Tonight I couldn't get the phone to wake up. No button push would wake the phone up.

Then I slid open the keyboard, and it woke up.

Can someone else try this out if their phone is not responding to wakeing up the phone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
yeah..that happened to me before in pervious builds as well, sometimes the screen will come up by either just hittin random keys or just letting it sit there..i think it has been a issue since power managment was inplemented..but for me it doesnt happen to often.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
That seems strange considering the contents of your sig. But personally, I like the feel of Android better than that of Windows Mobile.

One thing Android does have, actually, is good support for landscape mode. Ever since I started using modified version of Windows Mobile like many of the ROMs found on this site, I've had to deal with landscape not working very well.

Oh yeah, and what about the customizable home screen? I mean it's customizable on Windows Mobile, but not as much as as with Android. With Android, it's basically just like a desktop on a PC.

I dunno. I think Android is already doing things better than Windows Mobile, and it'll be really good once it get support for things like wifi, bluetooth, and the camera.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
android market dowload problems

I found my download problem. Android had left an unsuccessful download in my dowloads cache, that also explains why it worked on a "clean install" or after reformating. Just delete the whole dowloads folder on the storage card and let me know if it works for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
I vote for volume control as long as it is not active when the phone is asleep - it would be way too easy for the volume to get changed all over the place in a pocket.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
milas you posting your build? I too need to start fresh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
Heres my APN

apn settings

Name: AT&T
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: <Not set>
Port: <Not set>
Username: wap@cingulargprs.com
Password: cingular1
Server: <Not set>
MMSC: mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
APN Type: <Not set>

I will agree with you on the desktop, that is pretty slick, landscape works perfect for me in winmo, but im sure itll be no time till winmo has a similar desktop function, Yes my sig is all android because i support the open source movement, and i really do enjoy android, but windows mobile is just...better imo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Why so you post a cmdline like this!

- pm.sleep_mode=0 -- yeah, if you want power drain. Use 1 or just leave it out

- msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 - why? Kaiser works fine with the default maximum speed - this should only be necessary for other machines

- board-htckaiser.panel_type=3 - how do you know he has this panel type? Leaving that out would prob. also work

I'm just saying this because things like this are the cause for many unnecessary posts here - people will take your command line as it is - internet will probably work (because the the important parameters - ppp.xxx are ok), but because you gave all the other parameters as well, other problems may come and this leads to unhappiness!

Just my 2¢...

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] profchaos:
You might be kicking yourself as I was (and was having the same problems) but did you try connecting first with togga? I'm a noob and was replacing all my connection settings before I forgot I needed to connect with togga.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
How are you planning on handling the boot options? Do we get to customize the buttons ourselves, or will you provide 2-3 options that we can choose from?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stupiduglyfool:
Does anyone here know if it is possible to boot haret without requiring an SD card present, i.e, haret and all required files on the root of the internal memory?

I have tried placing them there and when haret runs it cycles through "Waiting for SD card".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Hello,

I have tryed togga, it keeps saying that its not ready or some thing like that also it only almost connected once but then it failed also,

is there any thing else I can do? I would really like to try this internet aspect of the phone,

Also my phone part its self does not stay on stable with signal, I can be outside and it will be strong then just go out then come bak strong.

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Did you follow the instructions found on the wiki? Togga won't help if you haven't done that first.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Yes I followed the wikki, any other ideas?

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AngryUndead:
I have to disagree, just looking at the built in options. Not things that you can install like TCMP.

Things I like:

1) It does google sync and chat better.

2) It has a better calendar and I found setting alerts was easier.

3) It has a better built-in browser

4) It has a better contact manager.

5) The dialer is much more responsive.

6) I like the Music application more than WMP.

7) The Notification Drawer / Notification System is so much better than WM's godawful implementation.

8) The built in mail application is pretty good, but I did have to download K-9 to get my work email to function. On the other hand, I've never been able to get that to work at all in WM. K-9 is based on the built in mail application.

Things I do Not Like:

1) Harder than it needs to be to find battery %.

2) No Communications Manager, which is pretty nice in WM.

Of course I want WIFI and Bluetooth and crap like that, but for the much better UI and enhanced integration with Google... I can go without until it gets sorted.

I've been using Android on a day-to-day basis for almost a month. I just want people to know that if they've got a data-plan and don't mind rebooting on occasion then Android makes a great OS for day-to-day usage, especially if your main annoyances with WM are listed in the first list.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I definitely agree with your post, Undead. I forgot to mention that the notification system is better in Android. I also like the overall feel of messaging better.

I didn't even realize you could see the percentage, unless the phone is charging. How do you do that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Completenutter2:
Settings > About phone > Status. Its listed in there :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Though in general I like the notification bar, one thing I don't like about it: it's too small. The point of the notification bar is quick, easy access, but most of the time it's hard for me to grab it without using the stylus. It should either be bigger, or should be sizable (if it is, I apologize, and please let me know how to resize it, lol).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chrisrc1985:
Hey guys, using HyperDragonIV IOLITE

I went to the repository site, that had the android files. Is 2-8 really the last release for the files we need?

I get to the linux boot screen, and it freezes while booting, any ideas, or any updated version?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I'm not sure what you are looking at, but this is the page you want. For the most updated bundle, grab the 3/1 version. If you'd like to try a newer version, the experimental and updated zImages are on there as well.

Note: the bootloader freezing is almost always an issue with your ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
theres not enough room on your main flash to have android and windows. if hARET or a kernel allowed that then you could say hello to a bricked phone most likely...I'm pretty sure the data.gz ends up extracting to a bigger size.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
Alrite, i definitely did not know that, i got this default txt from someone else and it worked perfect on my tilt and fixed my internet problem, but i will change the sleep mode, what does msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 mean? what should it be?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
Anyone else having trouble downloading MMS attachments? I've got an active data connection and can visit websites but it says that I'm unable to download the attachment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
you need to set up your carrier settings within android.

(settings>wirelesscontrols>mobilenetworks)

You can find your settings here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
For me its seems easy to grab (obviously its different for each person.) You have to remeber that the g1 has a greater screen size (so things are larger) and the g1's screen is flush with its suroundings (no digging at the edge of the screen)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
Im still having the same problem and have the settings setup.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
My hero. Thanks so much.

In addition, I recall that the G1 has issues using data autonomously. Is this the case with the Android operating system across the board? I don't use data for anything but mms and IMing (which are covered under my contract). I just don't want to end up with a raging bill for data.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Maybe true, but that doesn't change the fact that it gives me trouble.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
If the settings are set up correctly there should be no reason they don't work. I would double check them to make sure you didn't accidentally type something wrong or miss something, and then reset for safe measures (to make sure the settings were applied)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
NP ;)

The android operating system is pretty well tied to the internet, i think most of the autonomous data comes from the google services (mail, contact, ect syncin g) Really its just less obvious when you are using data in android then in wm (no pop-up saying connecting to the internet)

You might just try it out for a little while and then check with your carrier for your data usuage.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
You can lower the "virtual" screen resolution ;)

No, but seriously: you can just press menu -> notifications if you don't want to use a stylus. That's what I do very often because I have a PDAir Aluminum case which has a transparent plastic protection screen in front of the screen.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I'm sure someone will create an app to do just this I tried the power management app from the market it was pretty much useless, I personally believe Android is superior to winmo on my end. It still has its little ticks but I can always go back to a more stable build than all these experimentals. I have been using android on a day to day basis since the 3-23 build. Androids browser outperforms PIE handsdown, I did read that there will be aversion of flash player coming out soon for android. And if you take out the sd card speed thing from default.txt it won't load atleast not for me gives me an sdcard error on the first part of bootup. I. Might have enough space on my phones internal memory to run android I have the C888= rom final refresh or something like that with only total comander instaled And I'm sure someone can cook a superlite rom stripped of everything but the essentials. I think haret has a lot to do with it though not sure but I think it is what reads from the sdcard from stuff that I have read????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Internet Access

Hello All,

What is the radio verison I should be using, I have what ever the default was for ATT with win 6.1? Does this make any big differents of getting online?

I am still not able to get online, I finaly go Togga to say I was connected but that was once only and it did not allow me to go on the web.

I have already been through the wikki for setup of the data. I have the 3g icon with NO up / down arrows

Sincerely,

Crhsitopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
wifi

when will wifi work i need internet for this please!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] catchfire:
i have not had this issue since doing these two things

1. uninstall loopt.

2. only ever plug in the charger when the screen is on.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Please don't do that again! If you need it, do it yourself. This is all Open Source Software, please go ahead and work on it. Don't harass the people who are actually doing the work.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DesperateScorpion:
Hey thanks for this amazing work....individual thanks to each and everyone putting their time into developing this....I know its still a work in progress, but so far this is amazing....been using android for 5 days now....Another Cool thing to show around among friends.....;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Maximum SD card controller operation speed. Just leave it out and see if it still works.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Am a bit lost currently in the whole long thread of Android,

Been using android very oftend now, and the last version am running is the package from 3-1-09, however I would like to improve the battery life, is there a new zImage available which gives more improvement in this?

One of the thing I noticed is that my phone (battery) gets quite warm and would mean extra energy consumption, isnt it?

Stefan did alot of power consumption fixes but, is it then enough just to exchange my zImage file?

Thanks, sorry if I missed the answer in my search through the thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
You can expect about 2 days of run time with the latest kernel and no pm.sleep_mode kernel parameter (or have it set to 1, but 1 is the default anyway).

Get the latest "stock" kernel from http://gigatron.de/.android/builds.

Just replacing the zImage is enough.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Raketemensch:
The last couple of builds I've had an issue where boot hangs at:

clk_set_rate 19:144000

Any ideas?

I'm running a clean AT&T 6.1 ROM on a Kaiser/Tilt.

UPDATE:

This resolved my issue:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
To place a call, just go to the contacts screen, hit superkey (windows button on front keypad), a menu shows up, use arrow keys and the middle key to make add contact show up. then add desired phone number.

When done go to the contact screen again and just tap your contact, and then tap number to dial.

PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU HANG UP CORRECTLY
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
XMOO have you updated the First post? i dont think i've downloaded the latest stuff! :((((

OK - sorry - ignore this post, too excited!! :))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Andoird restarts when trying to call!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] forza:
Works for me :-)

Incoming call sent to voicemail goes a bit awry, and I've had it reboot a few times on me too. But all in all - WHAT A GREAT DEVELOPMENT!

All audio is routed to the loud speaker - guess that's intentional?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] baz:
Working here. 1.27.14.32 (really old)

The key to get mine working was to update the initrd-android from here:

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android

Issues:-

Only 1 bar of signal

Audio comes out of loudspeaker

Incoming call indicator stops working after first call

Cant hang up the call with the red button

Multiple Incoming SMS messages freeze it

Pending voicemail seems to cause issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dfellars77:
Worked First Time

Outgoing calls worked right away with Ryncrppr V5 on ATT. Doesn't recognize incoming calls and SMS crashes when trying to send a text.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Working here too. Same issues as quoted.

ROM: Dutty's Diamond V1 (June 6)

Radio: 1.58.25.17
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
sms works?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Still locks up after like 5 minutes, the touch screen is still messed up, I do have a signal bar, but when I call my fone, the landline rings but the kaiser does not, Im guessing thats radio and rom dependant?

EDIT::

I cannot place a call either...

Is the screen supposed to change when i press the green button?

Cuz I can press it multiple times and noting happens.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
Weird. When I try to download the last zimage I dont get a download link. only numbers like this:

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Why can't I download this? Thx in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dfellars77:
Right click... save target as in IE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] baz:
Right click the file and save as

Rename from .txt if MS puts that at the end
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Nope. Android restarts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
btw the guy who made the final improvement is "premy" :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Is there a digitizer alignment app?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
Thanks Baz. that I couldnt figure that out myself. *shame*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] forza:
Got an inbound SMS notification. Can't send outbound SMS using the SMS app - just keeps giving me a message saying the app is not responding. Only way out is to soft reset.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] humble:
Good news

this is a step in the right direction

Good work all
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Flapjack:
I tried booting Android for the first time today, when I saw the calling was working.

I copied all the files to a folder on the device called "Android". I browsed to the folder, ran haret.exe, and it started to load. It got to the 99% point or so, but wouldn't go any farther. I let it sit for about 30 minutes, then did a soft reset.

What am I doing wrong?

**EDIT**

I also tried installing the SH4Y cab, but when I run it, it says it was "unsuccessful". I'm running shogunmark's DeathV4 ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pedro_se_rooot:
don't work italian sim ?