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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
Ok i changed that, but it still doesnt work. I tired putting it in the Root of my sd card and i get the exact same errors from the linux screen. Failed to load data.img. and some other bin/sh error saying it doesnt exist or something or other.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
hmm Ok, well i'll go right ahead and change my ROM then.

Thanks alot for all the help guys.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
Lol, made for a good laugh..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
The root cause of such hysteria is always the fact that on both sides you have the Windows-haters/Linux lovers vs Linux haters/windows lovers who do nothing else but point out every failing of their hated hated system and go on about their beloved systems like it can do no wrong. Its the same story for Windows hating mac fanboys (I work with one....grrrrr!).

in the end all systems have their failing and all systems have their upsides. Any user who is afraid of what Android may or may not do to their device should stay clear of it - you probably wont appreciate it anyway. Winmo is a good stable enough OS (I havent witenessed any BSOD's on it - yet ;) ) and until Android came along we all got along with it fine. As it stands, theres bound to be a number of uses who will try Android when its ready and revert back to Winmo for whatever reason and some who'll never look at WinMo again.

For linux lovers though, Android is a dream come true - and its shaping to be a damn fine system too i must say.. now if only we could get that soft keyboard back for the Polaris...:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I'm not partial to either one, I have found a use for both OS's on my device, I do wish that they would get this glitchy data connection taken care of in this latest release, and the hung phone calls I may just revert back to the 2-27 version until then. The only downside for me is the fact I cannot tether through android and I cannot find a good productivity suite such as open office. That is why I still revert back to winmo from time to time. WiFi isn't a big thing for me. I believe I get better reception through android and the voice calls (when they work) are more clear and crisp

my 2 cents
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Well I saw VMWare running on a Nokia N90 booting Android seamlessly. Wait for WinMobile running Android running Debian running Window's VirtualPC through WINE running WinMobile ... if you stare into the void it will consume you.

regarding my last few tangents, I think I'm going to stick with cramfs instead of ext3 and that should take care of the boot issue. I'm working on getting saurik's improvements for the G1 to work on our Kaiser version of Android. The diff file is lengthy though. Someone want to look it over? It may be useful for a bunch of stuff (someone please tell me what rild is).

Here's some of the stuff I've found so far (in our version at least):

Notice it specifically says not to use/parse these keys but you see them right there.. there has to be at least one other thing in the code like this..

# ro.build.product is obsolete; use ro.product.device
ro.build.product=dream
# Do not try to parse ro.build.description or .fingerprint
ro.build.description=holiday_devphone-userdebug 1.1 UNLOCKED 130444 test-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=android-devphone1/holiday_devphone/dream/trout:1.1/UNLOCKED/130444:userdebug/test-keys

which brings me to exhibit B:

#wifi.interface = tiwlan0

which uncommenting, I hope, will be like sugar to our devices.

The diff file is raw and I'm leaving it that way. Left is our build, right is saurik's which I believe is for the SDK emulator but it is certainly for a G1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
ok so i changed my ROM to Hyperdragon III. Then i put Android on and when i went to Run Haret it loaded Linux then i get the same messages as before. exactly the same.

the last few lines say:

gzip: can't open '/sdcard/data': File exists

Failed

Failed to extract Data image

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

I really want to make this work. Can someone help me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
With what you're describing, it's best to try to break down the problem:

What's on your sd card exactly?

data.gz

default-kaiser.txt renamed as default.txt

haret.exe

initrd.gz

system.img

zImage
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Okay, try these steps in this order:

1. Take your microSD card out of your phone and put it in a card reader on a PC. Format the microSD card to FAT32.

2. Unzip a fresh copy of the Android package to the ROOT of the SD card. Do not make any folders, just unzip the file.

3. Edit the default.txt file to reflect the following:

For your data connection, whatever UN/PW is needed

Set the MTYPE to 1553 (which is for Kaisers)

4. Place the microSD card back in your phone. Run Haret.

Also make sure your radio is one that has been working with the majority of people in this thread -- either the 1.65.24.36 or 1.71.x.x radio. Lots of people use the Hyperdragon ROMs, and I have had success with that ROM running Haret and previous Android builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
yes, thats exactly how my sd card looks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
I just put hyperdragon on my phone like 10 mins ago. Im going to do what u said with formatting the sd card to FAT32.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I get the same error message when I install new android files, it hangs for a minute after saying data.img doesn't exist, but then goes through just fine, I've always gotten the same error about can't access tty on all builds, what is this? My androids have always worked fine until this last build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
well looks like its working, but i think it was working before but i hangs for like 30 secs then continues, i was usually to lazy to wait and would do a soft reset.

But it does work. HOORRAY!! lol.

Thanks alot for all the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Out of curiosity what would be the chances of running this out of the phones built in RAM, or is it strictly based out of the SD card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
well looks like its working, but i think it was working before but it hangs for like 30 secs then continues, i was usually to lazy to wait and would do a soft reset.

But it does work. HOORRAY!! lol.

Thanks alot for all the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Yes, the boot time leaves much to be desired but after the first one, the data.img is already extracted (if you hadn't done that first) and it will load faster. I tend to turn my phone on in the morning so it's not a big deal. Too bad we need to still boot WinMobile first (for now at least).

Now that you're on our team, check the post I put up with Android apps. Since I have no data plan and no wifi, I can't actually browse the market to get them so I've been on a witchhunt for apps.

garringm, I don't think this is too likely. What I want is to get it to boot off of internal memory. Sure, the G1 doesn't have much room but our Tilts have ~110mb which is plenty.

Saurik btw (I hear his name a lot, he must be like good at this stuff) has an Android Market browser but alas, no downloading from it.

http://www.cyrket.com/

So if anyone with a data plan feels like uploading some goodness (like a music player that actually comes close to WM's TCPMP) for me it would be much appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Sounds like the day I was suffering from temporary insanity and ran vista booted windows 7 in a VM which did a VM of linux, which was running another VM of XP that was made to look like OSX. I was a little confused that day... :rolleyes:

@enatefox check the wiki in my sig, there is a link at the very bottom that someone has hosted a large majority of the free market apps.

Edit: since I like to make things easy. here is the link. http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=9eb91d1c5e2cd542ab1eab3e9fa335ca693170017520cd0b
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Awesome, thanks. I've been scouring sites with various combos of "android," "free" and "app" in the address.

One thing about apps though is since Android is based on a JVM and our friends over at defcon had some interesting 'keep-you-up-at-nights' on its security as well as an open root account on the phone accessible by any app, I'm going into Windows mode about 3rd party apps. I'm used to GPL and repos so what's the consensus on security? Specifically, is smobile antivirus even needed? I'm for Linux to avoid that stuff.

Last thing I want is my phone offering cheap pills from China to my address book.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
Now this is interesting, I downloaded the STEEL browser and that has its own on screen keyboard it seems unless theres one in the image but isnt being initialised?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Yeah, sorry, should have put that clearer. Yes, I mean initrd.gz. The information is within this thread (why don't you support my motion to create a new subforum ;))

If the link is not clear enough, I think searching for "cpio" and "initrd.gz" should give you some more hints.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
So I went to Canada once and it was like being in America but different. I should've known the CPIO thing from setting up Linux I just didn't put it all together.

About that new subforum, I called samesies which is as official as signing in blood. While many posts here aren't strictly dev-related, those developing need to check here just to stay up to date with one another. This is where we've all chosen to go. Most important is that I know some of the Vogue and Polaris devs are checking on our progress and vice versa so we need to make it easy to cross reference our efforts. Or we just need to hurry up and get it all finished..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
The image doesn't have one no, it is part of Steel. And for probably the only other app you'll need an onscreen keyboard for you HAVE to download Chomp SMS...its soo good!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Just to update everyone the 1.59.46.12 radio for the Kaiser boots and runs Android for me without a problem. Could be another to add to the list of working radios.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jinth0688:
everything working good, using it most of day since i've fallen in love with the interface and page transitions. have had one freeze though.

i dont have a data plan anymore so can anyone out there help me out with an apk of the updated chompsms?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Here's chompsms and a plethora of more apps (including chomp). I uploaded them but they are not my source, credit is due to HKLC on another forum (I don't know if it's ok to post another forum..) whose original link is: http://rapidshare.com/files/200970333/LastBackupApps.rar but who wants to download from rapidshare?

http://www.toofiles.com/en/oip/documents/rar/lastbackupapps.html

I started a new thread that's going to have what I've gotten from this thread, post excerpts and links and list them on the first page. Any help will be good and it might be the winning candidate to replace 4082 posts on one thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3429867#post3429867

I'm going to put the important things so far and link to latest builds on the main page and that should be >=3/17 easier to look through versus 4000+ posts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] audiobastard:
finally got android working, but still no gps, camera, or sound

well-- i was interested to find out how fast my internet speeds were since i kept reading about how there's only gprs, or only edge, or at some point 3g icon was up and running. I did a mobile speed test on my att internet connection. 2.1 Mbps mmm yummy... now, what am i doing wrong with the sound or is there still no ringer, just vibrate? I'm running the 1-3-09 version. Just to compare the speeds, I was getting about 256-512 Kbps on att rom w/3g.

Nevermind-- the speed isn't that great. Just did another speed test on winmo. 4.4Mbps in explorer and 9.6Mbps in skyfire (medianet rocks!!!).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] HDG:
hello,

i have install it on my kaiser but when i execute haret, it stuck at :

2.131030 clk_set_rate 19:144000

any idea?

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebazman:
booting problems

hi

been trying to get this to work for a while now...reading posts trying allsorts but kept getting stuck at

1.050110 kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block

im using hyperdragon 3 and using the right radio.

ive formatted sd card tp fat32 put all files in root of card but i keep getting the above error

thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Maybe try another SD card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
I'm not sure if there's really any point in starting a new thread, since a subforum is what we need. The problem with new threads is that they are always started because the current thread doesn't have an up-to-date first post, but eventually the same thing happens. We got xmoo to update the first post, and it links to the Wiki I'm hosting and all of the file repositories. That way the first post is never out of date, it just is a collection of links that go to the places that always list the latest builds or places that always host the latest builds. The only difference a new thread will result in is the need to click page 2 or 3 instead of 182 or 183. Just my 2c.

Did you rename default-kaiser.txt to default.txt? Did you make any changes in that file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rogeriojames:
Originally Posted by rogeriojames

Hi guys

My phone can receive calls only, internet is working with my apn too.

But i can't make calls

I just unmarked the "Require Pin When Phone is Used" but, how to disable the pin 2?

The pin2 have a password and i can change, but how to disable?

The problem is with the pin 2?

My radio is 1.71.09.01

Rom: 3.29..422.1 WM6.1

The android version is the latest from dzo.

Actualy my pin2 is 00000000

tnx!!

Any HELP!!! PLEASE!!! I DON´T KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE..!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
I've had this same problem with different builds. There's very few that actually let me make & receive calls, due to the same problem; the build that works for me (w/o having to deal with PIN2) is in my sig. Try that one & see how that works for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebazman:
booting problem

hi

i copied the kaiser-default.txt to the default.txt but it wouldnt load initrd so i had change a bit.

this is my default.txt config. if anythings wrong please advise.

im using a vario 3 orange

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE

1553

set KERNEL zImage

#set initrd "initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

#set

initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"

#

# The

following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.username - The username used to

connect to the network when dialing #777

# ppp.password - The password used to

connect to the network when dialing #777

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum

frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used

when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power

Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt

4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power

savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

#

0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

#

1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

#

set cmdline

"board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=orangeinternet ppp.username=none ppp.password=none

pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=312 mddi.height=416 no_console_suspend

board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"

boot

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
Wifi

When will the wifi be released that works?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Wifi is something we're working on. I'm trying here and I know some others are but it's not something I've got formal experience with. Always looking for help though so keep the updates coming.

As far as starting a new thread, I'm not trying to replace this one I just put a few of the posts that have code that is only available in this thread like an editable system.img and how to unmount it after. I just want it for reference links to this thread and androidonhtc.com
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebazman:
boot problems

hi

tried using different sd card but no difference still wont boot

sorry about posting this again but can anyone see anything wrong with this default.txt

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

#set initrd "initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

#

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=orangewap ppp.username=none ppp.password=none pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=312 mddi.height=416 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"

boot

thanks

the error im getting is

please append a correct "root= boot option; here are the available partitions:

1.240120 kernel panic - not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
thebazman, your initrd.gz line is commented out.

Remove the # from the first line if it's in the same folder as HaRET and the second if the file is in the root of the sdcard.

#set initrd "initrd.gz"
#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
Beat me to it, LOL!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebazman:
boot problem

hi

when i do what you say it says failed to load file \storage card\initrd.gz

when i leave it as ive shown it runs then comes up with the other error

this has been doing my nut in for 2 days going thru threads and stuff so i decided to post my problem

cheers

the files are on the root of my card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] battikh:
only uncomment:

#set initrd "initrd.gz"

do not uncomment \storage card\initrd.gz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebazman:
boot problem

hi

when i uncomment that i get the failed to open \storage card\initrd.gz

when i leave it it runs to my other error

its so frustrating

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] battikh:
try uncommenting:

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

that's the one i have uncommented and it's working fine...

where are your android files saved?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] thebazman:
boot problem

hi

i tried uncommenting the second one but it just says failed to open blah blah..

all the files are on the root of my card

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
No service - Kaiser is going to service...

Hello,

after few days of hardworking with Kaiser and other stuff it seems be one of chips is broken. Strange that it started to be broken when I run Android 010309 - with previous versions (2302 & 2702) everything it was fine.

I am loading now "original" SPL, radio, rom etc.

On Monday I will return it and ASAP after I will have it back I will check Android 010309 :)

Best Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
thebazman, the fact that the initrd.gz line was commented out hints at other problems in your setup. You have taken the 3-1-9 version exactly and put it on your sd card then renamed the default-kaiser.txt to default.txt?

Everyone here who has had an issue was the ultimate cause in some way. If you've been messing with the config files then that's probably to blame. Try a fresh copy and run the kaiser defaults.

Also, please let me know if you want something posted on the main post on my other thread. So far:

* Compiling Android Kernel for Kaiser

* Modify initrd.gz files and CPIO handling

* system.img mounting, editing and rebuilding with ext2/3

* system.img mounting, editing and rebuilding with cramfs

* [WIP] Configuring WiFi Interface

As I've said, it's only purpose is to take stuff we've posted in this thread and organize it for us/others. Only the important steps (code) should be on there and the more the better.

I hope we have some devs here, just letting you all know I'm gitting the Android kernel and will work on chrooting it and compiling wifi so I can put it back into a new file for (hoping) submission. I am by no means familiar/experienced with most of what's required and can always use the help. What I'm outlining for myself is to get wifi and the camera to work as well as turning off the keyboard lights. From there, I want to get a lightweight Debian which will hopefully be pivoted to / and then jail Android. That will give us native Linux apps for our phones and a safe (read reconfigure without rebooting) Android environment.

I need to break the workload up with people who know there l33t Linux skills so let me know so we can get this done.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
cool... youtube started working - android has something over winmo there :P

Anyone think we could figure out how to enable the cingular hidden proxy? I wouldn't mind getting some cingularvideo... haven't been able to watch that in fullscreen since I had my Q9h for 2 weeks...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I love TCPMP and that is no props to WinMobile it just happens to run for it. Have yet to hear of a good Android music player so when Debian is done I'll stick with Amarok 2's sweet music nectar.

poly_poly-man, I don't know what the Cingular hidden proxy is but if you'd enlighten me I will certainly pencil it in to my schedule and see what I can find.

skadamat, I'm getting the same. Testing isn't much of a thing right now as we all are getting the same results. It's new development we need especially wifi for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skadamat:
Idunno about u fool but the default Music player is pretty kickass.

Otherwise, dowwnload tunewiki, as u play a song from ur library, it'll find the lyrics and sync it / display it as u play the song ...but its not perfect, if u fast forward, it doens't sync lyrics/words. And ithink its mainly for american music..but NOT SURE!

I want camera working badly. wifi, eh nobiggie, igot data :) speed of 3g goodness baby. bluetooth ican live without too. but camera / video...eww :(

and i want youtube and stuff to work too haha duh and the googleserver apps !