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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
Getting the same on the Polaris using a combination of latest files and the zimage-gpu kernel from dzo' site (latest one that boots for me). Also market and Googlemail do not open the screen just flashes when clicked. I wonder whether theres a connection their with later builds of kaiser and the builds of Polaris?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
I have the correct settings in startup.txt and they work in 1.1, just not with ION
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
Is there a 1.5 release that contains the exchange integration from the HTC magic?

I also had a similiar problem with the modem connection. I deleted my APN which looked correct and created another one. After doing that, the modem would connect. Once since the change it failed one attempt, not sure why.

Hope this helps. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
Unfortunately it doesn´t help me (doesn't work for me).

This sucks, I hate winmo but I´m forced to use it since Android ION doesn´t have data. I hope this gets resolved very soon...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SkywalkerPD:
I found that it helps, when you make a connection first in Windows Mobile and then boot into Android. If you go to modem then and click connect 9 out of 10 times it works fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SkywalkerPD:
I would like that too! I use a trail of Nitrosoft Touchdown now. I like it very much, but I can only use it for 5 days........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
We probably should get localization figured out for Portugese, etc. for other users. That's the Ubuntu way...

Anyone know where the applicable files are? I have no problem making images of the latest builds for different languages so long as JesusFreke, et all have them available since I certainly only speak American.

Also, would be nice to have Advanced Task Manager again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schrotti007:
at least on my device (polaris), the apn settings in startup.txt or default.txt dont matter, you must enter the corrent settings in android under settings, wireless. At least by entering the correct settings there i can establish a connection using modem, but i cannot transfer any data, the browser just says page cannot be displayed.

Maybe thats because my isp uses nat and always gives me a private ip address in the 10.0.0.0 range. Will try to get another sim card and test wheather i can connect there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
I get the same as you schrotti007 on my Polaris but I doubt it has anything to do with NAT or any issue at the other end as I can still connect happily with dzo's february 1.1 files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
I tried it and it started off differently, it says 'PPP ended' instead of 'Modem.... FAILED'. After pushing 'connect' the up and down arrow next to the G get white but without blinking, it takes a while and then the up arrow blinks. After that again the 'FAILED'.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schrotti007:
didnt test on 1.1. I dont think the problem is nat or anything on the other end, in winmo, i can connect to the internet. I think that something in android 1.5 also has a private ip in the 10.0.0.0 network.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
I think an update I had made a few weeks ago broke data on GSM phones that didn't use PPP... An update is on the way, give me about 5 minutes

EDIT: Okay, it is uploaded to google code , if your connection uses PPP it will work great, if your connection doesn't use PPP it will still work, the only difference is that once PPP gives up (because it is already connected), it'll tell you that ppp died in the modem log (but it won't disconnect on you)

Please let me know if this works or doesn't work, I might have to revisit some changes made to the RIL last week.

-Jesse
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Michel82:
Thanks for the quick fix Jesse. Immediately tried it, but still the same problem (on polaris). Modem gives the error "Modem Failed"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
@vilord

Still broken for me with this new initrd.gz. Same experience as my previous post #6030. Assuming it's the same issue anyway.

Thanks for looking into it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
is version 1.5 slower than 1.1 or is from the rom i use now hum
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
Mine seems to run about the same but I'm not doing anything fancy with it yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
Ok I downloaded newest files from Vilords vogue-android and data connection seems to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schrotti007:
still having the same problem... modem can connect, i get an ip address but the browser says page cannot be displayed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
whoops, yeah there is one more setting that I'll need to fix.

Can someone let me know... does GSM use ppp connections at all, or is it just direct connect the way the original g1 does it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
I believe my is using ppp.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I posted this on ION's support thread but I'll share here too:

Vilord's latest build has these changes (that I've noticed):

bash is missing

you can't 'su' with toolbox but you can with 'busybox su' and password, as before, is 'vogue'

Terminal Emulator finally saves color and font settings

I've attached the original key layout files if anyone dislikes the new ones like me. Just mount the system.img and 'cat' the text into the one already there to preserve permissions.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
I'm using dzo's 1.5 build. My internet works after using Modem and I can browse the web, but Gmail and Market close once I open them. I also can't go into the data sync page in the settings.

Everything worked fine in 1.1. I'm using the Tilt on AT&T.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
need more info to fix data

I'm trying to narrow down where the problem is.

Can someone for whom it works in the old initrd, but it doesn't work in the new one do the following from a terminal in the working initrd?

mkdir /sdcard/initrdupdates
cp /libreference-ril.so /sdcard/initrdupdates/libhtcgeneric-ril.so

if you get an error on /libreference-ril.so, then...

cp /system/lib/libreference-ril.so /sdcard/initrdupdates/libhtcgeneric-ril.so

then switch to my initrd (latest from last night on google code) and see what works and what doesn't.

Thank you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plemaire78:
Modem connexion problem on Kaiser

Hi everyone,

After two days of hard search I still haven't found the "network connexion FAILED" solution with the 1.5 releases I tried (worked fine for me with the 1.1), please help !!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
@plemaire78

Same here. Never had this trouble before in 1.1 or with some earlier okibi 1.5 stuff. But now something's definitely broken. With the latest from dzo, and all the various vilord initrd.gz's, no luck. Depressing, as I want to move forward with 1.5 like everyone else.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
gleonard3 and plemaire78, I have a pretty good idea what needs to be done to fix it, but I need your help.

I don't have a GSM phone, nor can I afford to drop $200 to go buy one to test. Could someone try out what I mentioned above?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
I'm running your release from yesterday with the Kernel DZO released yesterday... the card checking, autobackup, google services, data connection, and call waiting are all working perfectly.

The speed/stability are top notch.

I will load up the newest release and let you know if the data connection still works.

Mb
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
Only difference in today's build is to fix su from a terminal window
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jebus Chrit:
What what things on my ATT Tilt will stop working if I put android on it. Sorry I am new to the whole flashing thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Android requires no flashing. Just load Haret.exe and it boots android and shuts down windows.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plemaire78:
Vilord,

Yes I tried you fix but it didn't work for me (Android didn't boot anymore)...

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
As stated by the previous poster, no flash is required. You can reboot into WM at any time.

That being said, while running android, the wireless doesn't work. Neither does bluetooth or GPS. Everything else should function fine. Since the kaiser doesn't have an accelerometer, apps that require it won't work.

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
Thank you for testing it out.

I've got another angle, delete the initrdupdates folder off of your sd card, then, from the google code page, try using the initrdGSMTest.gz (renamed as initrd.gz) and see what happens. I verified it boots on my phone, but that doesn't mean too much...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
Per your original suggestion, I was having a tough time getting ANY old 1.5 build to get data. No problem at all on 1.1 though. But since we use togga on 1.1, I figured it wouldn't be helpful.

So I went to try your latest angle. I couldn't find an 'initrdupdates' folder on the sdcard. But I did copy your initrdGSMTest.gz file over and renamed. Now I notice that the Connect/Disconnect buttons in the Modem app are grayed out already, as if they had already been pushed. The window says:

Modem initialization started

Modem initialization completed

Starting pppd...

And it's just hung there. No FAILED message like before.

Thanks for checking it out.

G.

EDIT: I rebooted and now I'm back to the original behavior:

Starting pppd...

Connection attempt FAILED!

Done!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
any chance you could run "logcat -b radio > radio.log" then press connect? I'm not sure what could be causing it, except that the old code would try 4 times, whereas my code only tries once...

you could try hitting connect, then as soon as it fails hit connect again, and repeat 4 times...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imty_45:
anyone got wifi working?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
Be glad to. Trouble is I don't know how to do a redirect (>) symbol with the Dev Tools > Terminal Emulator. Or should I using something else? Guess I'll need to comb the threads for how to do symbols in this thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
I think if you hit menu from the dev tools emulator you can get symbols... but I personally prefer the "better terminal emulator" app (free)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bullseye69:
ROM: Hyperdragon III january 13

Radio: 1.65.24.36

Carrier: Tmobile us

Kaiser Model: KAIS100

ok i was wondering if anyone else is having problem with calling out i can recieve calls send/recieve texts and have data working on one of my android builds. is there something i need to do to make calls thanks

Also how do get it to setup an account with google once u have a data connection it just times out and says it ca nt connect
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ALIEN_:
I've re-formatted my 2GB card to FAT32 however still no luck and get the same message. Is there something else I need to do to format the card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
hum.. with last 1.1 version i get data connection... but with last 1.5 i cant get data connection...

i have the same apn settings... made the same configurations to apn...

but in 1.5 i cant get togga to work :|
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] briggs81:
Thought I'd throw this in here.

I have Ion 1.5 on my Polaris and i can send and receive text messages, and receive calls, but can't get that data connection going, and can't make out going calls. It just defaults to the end screen as soon as i try to call.

Also, in security and location settings / set up SIM card lock / "Lock SIM card" is checked off with green check mark, but ive never had a pin for it, so i don't know why it's checked. Don't know if this has anything to do with me not being able to make outgoing calls and get a data connection..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
status of abd on kaiser

Since "adb" is only 3 characters its not a very search friendly term here.

What is the status of abd for the kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
Men, seriously. Read what other write - Use MODEM in 1.5 not Togga.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Lock sim card is checked on mine too, however I don't have any of the issues you are reporting. So id say that sim card locked is normal and is not related to any issues u may be having.

Try a new Rom and radio, find my ion dev thread in the kaiser software sub forum and download the Rom and radio I use (linked to in my post).

Try completing a call In winmo before booting into Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] briggs81:
I am using a Polaris so I don't think I can use a kaiser rom.

I have tried about 4 radios and 3-4 roms so far I think, always the same result :(

Very weird how some of us probably use the same software, but have different results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
I must have missed where you were using Polaris... yeah, a Kaiser rom would be bad.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
dude relax... read where ? trhoug 500 pages ? i was reading in http://www.androidonhtc.com/setup_data

and doesnt talk about modem thing...

i got it working now.. relax...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mystrorc:
android on HTC website changes

I've started to make changes to the www.androidonhtc.com website so maybe we can get fewer of these repeat questions.

dzo, thanks for the tip about background sync for power saving, it is my second to last reason holding me back to full time android. Other is GPS, which I only use some of the time.

Keep up the good work, helping how I can.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wissamg:
I could not dial...

Hey,

I have installed 1.5 its working almost perfectly, its detecting my service provider and I'm receiving phone and I can answer them but I do not hear anything and the other side too, also I can not dial I'm typing the number but when I click on dial it immediately got call ended.:confused:

BTW I can send SMS

Please help

Thanks in advance

Wissam
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
wheres is that tip about power saving ?

do you need help to update androidhtc.com ?

im using android for full time.. just getting back to windows when i have to use camera :\

btw is there any way to import contacts instead of import from SIM ?

and anyone can sign in or creat a google accout ? i cant sign in or create one.. hum cant use market and stuff
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] briggs81:
hehe yeah.

Ah well, seems it's not just me with the calling out issues, and not just polaris folks too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Oweida:
Switch between Android and WM6.5

Can anybody tell me when I use Android , how can I switch back to WM6.5 and vice versa without softrestting my kaiser ?!

Another issue regarding the latest builds 1.5 , the one 25-6 isn't working while 23-6 is working very well why ?!

and the last silly questions , does anybody know a good website full of Android apps ?!

Thanx in Advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
what do you mean "the one 25-6 isn't working while 23-6 is working very well why ?!"

What is not working? We would not have posted the 25-6 build if we didn't think it worked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Oweida:
oh !

I mean the dates of posting,,, go to the latest 1.5 builds and you will know :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
You can't, it has booted another os so you have to shut it down and boot back in to winmo.

That's called development, sometimes when something new is tried it doesn't work (rigth away)

How about Android market?:confused:

You could have avoided these questions by reading some more in this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Hí there,

can anyone tell how to use the adb functionality?

I use latest dzo zImage which is adb able, i got the search driver message in win 7 x86, too. I downloaded the adb.zip from dzo's page and was able to install the driver, but when android is fully booted, it disconnects...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
IN http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds

WOW :eek: this release is the fastest i ever tested!

but i cant get data connection... what is the trick for this one ?

please update androidonhtc.com with more frequency :(

make a team to update news and stuff.. i can help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Great idea, i'm willing to help, too.

It would be great to have on page with a good structure where all infos are...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anubius:
06/24/09 Combination of ION build from vilord and dzo files dzo android-kaiser-1.5-06252009.zip

This one is really fast. However the sad part is that for some reason I can't load any Google applications like Market Gamil etc. They just simply refuse to load.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
its just me that im a [newb] or this android "thing" is getting messy with all this posts .. with several releases .. now a new topic. (Google's ION Android Build for HTC Kaiser - Development and Downloads Thread ) and the androidforhtc.com

so maybe this need some organization or its just me ?

what is the latest release ?

what is the best release ?

is the "Google's ION Android Build for HTC Kaiser" http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=529734 an update of this thread ?

is http://www.androidonhtc.com updated ? with the latest release ?

im just saying this because maybe we need a definitive an a updated index for all this stuff :\

or maybe is just that i am a newb :\

maybe a list in google code ? :\
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] demanmethetplan:
Well it's a wiki, so everybody can edit that page.. So I just added some info: http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds#android_1.5_bundles

- Added a quick list for 1.5 bundles hoping this will decrease the no of questions asked by people not using the modem app

- Put a link to the ion questions thread to decrease the amount of non-constructive posts on this thread

- Added more info on the latest 1.5 build. Just like Aggerath I can't connect to internet, with almost the same specs (only using another rom - dutty).

- maybe we should make a seperate mini-page for each build, where we can put more info on what works and what doesn't?

Of course, it's a wiki. So if anybody objects to this, she can just change it back :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
I installed this one and non of the google apps work for me either.

I was using the build from 03/01/09 and it had all(from what I could tell) google apps working, calls worked, etc... To me it feels like the builds have taken a step back, correct me if I'm wrong and there has been some improvements over the last 4 months... :confused::confused::confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
MIC and Speaker

Hello All,

I was wondering a couple of things.

First I am using / trying to use a program called sipdroid, with this program I have it pointing to my gizmo account which google voice is also pointed to. when I tell google to call my cell phone using sipdroid (gizmo account) it rings like it should, it even picks up fine. but the two things that don't work right seems to be internal speaker and mic. right now its using the speaker phone. IS this the sipdroid program or is this to do with Android? same thing is ask about the mic? I have tryed using other program that requires the mic and they dont work.

Any informaiton would be greatful.

Thanks,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
Maybe you should read some pages from those last 4 months:confused:

You sound pretty ungrateful to me :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
iPirate, Cupcake broke a lot of development in Android as new versions go. If anything it was more detrimental to our efforts due to porting the OS. If you had a G1, your best bet is to stick with 1.1 as well for stability and compatibility. You may want to consider reading blogs for outdated links on builds since this is bleeding edge development and it's only right that things break. You can always feel free to finish getting wifi to work.

I've been using Vilord's second to most recent build (41.3Mb system-ion.img). It is working perfectly though I don't have data or text so haven't tried that. Battery life is adequate, it's fast, makes waffles, etc. The new one caused it to go to sleep/death mode and calls would drop.

I've mirrored his build but with my system.img which just has the original key layout for those like me:

MediaFire: Vilord's 6-25 1.5 Build Original Keylayout

Here's a dump of my SD card's apps:

MediaFire: Android Apps
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
Sorry if I sounded ungrateful, I wasn't aware that cupcake messed things up. It has been difficult to follow the thread for me but I understand now!

I am going to try to figure out a linux environment solution for me so I can provide some help while I have a light schedule this summer!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schrotti007:
i created a few radio logs for my failing internet connection.

in epluslog i cannot connect to the internet at all. here, the apn is internet.eplus.de, username and password are both eplus. i had the apn and login strings in my startup.txt, and also entered them directly into androids wireless settings. modem just says connection failed. network is eplus.

in tchlog.txt, i can establish a connection in modem, but the internet browser still says page cannot be displayed. the ip i get is always somewhere in the 10.0.0.0 network (thats ok, i also get this kind of ips using my surfstick). ifconfig in the terminal also shows up a ppp device with the correct ips. here, the apn is webmobil1, i dont need any username or password, so i dont need any connection strings in startup.txt, but having them there doesnt help either. network is o2.

my phone is no kaiser but a polaris, but that should not matter i guess because the radio itself is working.

maybe the logs could help a bit to find out whats going wrong...