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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
1.1 16-05-09 installed, working everything except gmail sync, but doesn't matter. Now copying initrd.gz and system.img from okibi's 1.5 upgrade...done. I added to default.txt some text:

clock-7x00.mddi=0xa51 clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 clock-7x00.a11=528 board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity=1800 board-kaiser-ts.PMAX=700

NOT WORKING - I see logo which is blinking each ~17-18s and nothing more. I changed even zImage from 16-05-09 to last one from http://gigatron.de/.android/builds and nothing - still the same.

Someone wrote here in response to one of my previous posts that with 1.1 16-05-09 and system.img + initrd.gz from okibi's 1.5 upgrade it will be working fine, BUT IT IS NOT...

Any ideas?

edit: I changed system.img and initrd.gz and now logo is animated ;) Success - modem is working - connected with #1. Changing of brightness is not working. SD card is not visible (in 1.1 16-05-09 it was OK). Neocore is rebooting phone. More tests later.

Radio is 1.71.09.01.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljinsane:
this project is meh

it has been a full year now since this thread started when can we expect a full working version of android for the Kaiser? The status page seem to indicate that were are a ways off
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
If you can't await it, maybe you help making progress
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljinsane:
never said I couldn't wait ...was kinda of making an observation/inquiry....

becasue by the time this is done at least 2 android devices will be out and anyone still with a kaiser..will probably have moved on....time is ticking:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
The Kaiser is one of the few devices with a hardware full keyboard and a tiltable screen. It also runs with full function all over the world, unlike the G1. Many Kaisers are living a long life, as proven by this forum. These are just a few reasons that a new Kaiser is worth today as much as when I bought it 2 years ago!

Android is very functional on the Kaiser, I use it as my daily OS. Speak for yourself, but you're wrong if you think the Kaiser is a dead device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Very true. I had a D2 and went back to a kaiser, and my only complaint is the screen size (the speed i can live with.) Which is why i look foward to the touch pro 2 as it seems more like an upgrade to the kaiser more than anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
I don't post super often, but I read XDA everyday. For those who have followed this project from day, will probably agree that we have come along way in this last year, not to mention the time spent before this thread (there was originally another thread).

We have developers who have really gotten the ball rolling, and are improving the platform on multiple phones as we speak. Realize that since our phones didn't come shipped with android, al ot of work has to be done to get everything to work to the point it is today.

Yes there is no bluetooth, camera, or gps yet. However to me the fact that we can get on the internet, make phone calls, and do various things on our phones i quite an acheivement. Are all of these are by no means perfect, but we are getting there.

Yes it does hurt that the main post is no longer actively tracked, however it has quite a bit information that should help anyone get started. Read the wiki, and the last 10 pages or so and just about anyone would be up to date.

Finally this site is called xda-developers, not xda-full-working-software-served-to-you-with-a-spoon. Often times people forget this.. I realize that you might have been just asking, but realize that this might always be a work in progress, and there is absolutely no way to put a date on its completion. Developers are doing this on their spare time, and as a hobby.

Thanks developers for getting us this far. I remember the days when just getting haret to run was a reason to celebrate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Try "su ash" instead of "su root"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I get the same problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Thank you for pin pointing the update that caused the issue originally.

I agree with you 100%, If one talks on the phone for an extended amount of time, then not having the phone suspend automatically would drain the battery greatly.

I think the point of the code commit, "only wake kaiser with power button" is an attempt to not have the phone accidentally turn on while in the pocket.

That in and of itself is good for battery life.

again, though If I were to make a recommendation on how it should work it would be this:

1. Phone fully sleeps during call

2. Only power button wakes phone

3. Power button does not also terminate call, only end call button does.

IMHO, the above is the most efficent use of battery and also the most intuitive (since it is what we are used to in winmo)

thanks,

Mb
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Does anyone know how to fix the black lights being stuck on issue? Like the hardware keys on the front of the phone? Im rocking 1.5 and its amazing but It drives me nuts to know my batteries dying and burning my leds out :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Regardless, you come across as very impatient, yet it doesn't seem you are contributing anything to the development of the project. I don't contribute to it either, but I also don't make demands of those who are working so hard. If you care so much about the project, why don't you try working on it yourself!? ;)

Anyway...is anyone taking a look at this Hero interface? Just wondering.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
I intend to post a new android 1.5 build tonight that you may want to try. I'll post back when I get it ready, along with a list of everything that should be working in 1.5.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Jepssen ita:
kaiser "android" and USB

hello, to everyone.

Someone knows how to see the "kiaser android" in "my computer" connected with the usb cable? for example, if i wish to transfert any application (foto music without sd cards), on the phone. how can i do?

Thank's for now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Thanks a ton!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Option 1:

connect it to a linux based PC.

Option 2:

Download the latest live cd of your favorite linux distro, and boot it. then plug your phone in.

Option 3:

Install virtualbox, then install a linux OS inside virtual box. Virtual box has direct USB access, so your phone will be detected inside the virtual instance of linux.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Thanks. Its rather annoying to have the HW blacklights always on. I want to contribute to this project im trying to think about what I can do still.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
The only deal break for me is no wifi. I will get on my hands and knees and bow down and be your slave if anyone can get it working :eek::D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jayzilla:
Thanks for the suggestion and the earlier reassurance that it works on other phones. Tonepicker isn't working for me either, which suggests to me that it's an issue elsewhere, for just special old me :D

In my case, I don't get anything come through the speaker. The earpiece works just fine, but I think it's at full volume, and changing the in-call volume makes no difference.

I'm using a UK T-Mobile MDA Vario III with stock roms, but a virgin mobile sim.

Does anyone think it'd make a difference to switch roms?

-- J.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
crap :( that must be a problem with a port closed... :s
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
You need to wait for the BL to be off before puting the device on hold...

if the phone get on hold with lights on, they stay ON...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Try a hyperdragon iV iolite rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Not 'quite' how it works in WinMo, but close. When in a call, you can wake the phone AND end the call with the 'End Call' button. Whenever I hang up the phone, it doesn't require me to hit the power button first.

Considering how little I talk on the phone, this issue is very small to me. DZOs 'always on' during call makes the most sense to me, since I will often times be looking things up on my phone when in a call anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
@ Offtopic: Gmote is a great android tool for remote controlling your pc. It asks for wlan but gives you the possibility to enter a hostname or an ip adress manually.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jayzilla:
Perfect, that did the trick.

Thanks :)

-- J.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
No matter, man

I ran into a similar trouble before using Hyperdragon. I never could open opengl apps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
I'm having serious problems in memory management... It looks like apps are never closed, nevermind the free mem left... this brings my phone to lagg to death, and force me to reset it...

Do you know if 1.5 will fix this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
Maybe this will help you 'No way to close a program? '
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Your version of tonight sure is an odd version.. (joking of course) :p What time zone are you though?

Cant wait for the new build, because I need something new to try. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
I don't want to be a pain, but the search seems KO... and as I do have the same error... could you unlight me?

Still, my Android works fine even with this error.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
su ash is also not working.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
Thanks for the link.

I've seen a tip on how to force progs to close in 1.5 (using the new filter in apps management...)

My point was just to put the finger on a possible problem in memory management. Apps should be closed by the system when memory runs low, and it seems that this particular beaviour doens't work .. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
I Did have the same problem with calls :(

I managed to get connected to the web, but can't give nor receive any call :(:(

If people have the phone worjing fine, could they please give me their radio version.

Thanx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] szymonunion:
doverfr,

1.65.24.36 was working fine with 1.1 and right now I am using 1.71.09.01 with 1.5.

Regards,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tdavis75:
I found a post earlier that I used. Load up HaRET. Before pressing the RUN button wait until your button LEDs turn off. This press the RUN. This will keep them from being stuck on.

~Tom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
That is fixed in previous builds, but i think part of the updates broke that feature so it would be best for now to just wait for the leds to turn off before booting like was said.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
Thanks.. this is the same i'm using.

I've uninstalled Hi-MSN (post 1.5), and it seems to be working now... This is the 2nd application that make my phone loosing the "phone" function!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
I've not read all the previous posts, but I know that some people were talking about having lost access to the SD card under 1.5...

Is there any way to access is again?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
I Quote this post as a reminder ;) it just has been very usefull to me ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
Hi,

Any one have a solution for the SD card problem??? I have read undreds of page, but nothing to help me :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
Hi,

could someone post a link to the file mentionned in the quote?? my SD card not mounted is driving me mad :x
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wstraus:
I believe your looking for okibi's repository I'm not running 1.5 myself yet. I'm holding out for the newer version mentioned earlier to be released. Also I saw this in an earlier post that might be helpful..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Sorry, I had work stuff come up last night. I'll try to get the build tonight. My timezone is EST, by the way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zuenaerox:
Will there be wifi??

Hello to you all,

First of all, I want to thank everybody for their great work for getting android working on a kaiser!

I found that PDAVIET's V23 Wm6.5 rom allways boots correctly into android, with everything working out off the box, including data.

I'm very close to the point where i won't be using WM anymore, other than for booting android offcourse.

My question however is: Is there any possiblility that wifi will ever work? or bluetooth?. The lack wifi and bluetooth is a real dealbreaker for me, but i like android so much:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Its all good. :P est you say? you are a bit of a night owl then, lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Ill be checking forum every 15minutes :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Alright, I have another test package out there. I'll mark this as the first release of android 1.5 for the kaiser. You may still want to treat it as an upgrade and only replace the new files.

The new files in the zip and the ones you must use are:

system.img

initrd.gz

zImage

Here's the changes:

fixed dns issue (for those of you who didn't have domain resolution)

fixed msm_host issue (for mounting of sdcard)

/sdcard is declared as global media device, permissions should work

mmcblk0p1 mounted on host mmc1, lun0 disabled

added check for sd2

wifi driver included, feel free to test (ask for instructions, if needed)

recompiled wlanz.ko (for wifi)

bluetooth driver removed (caused speed issues, didn't work anyway)

general stability and speed tweaks

added advanced task manager

there may be more that I forgot

If the sdcard doesn't work for you, make sure your sd card is partitioned and formatted correctly.

Get the package here:

http://ratedo.com/android/android-kaiser-1.5-06042009.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] PhoenixMage:
Was setting the power setting to 0 fixed? My battery life has turned to crap since I put that in to fix the wake up issues.

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Thank you for this awesome release!

I also ask the question stated above, and also what do you mean by wifi? Is it just the driver? or is android able to use it?

Edit: sd card isnt working for me still. It has not changed from previous builds that worked. I am going to try it "fresh" as I installed as an update to what I already had.

Edit2: I cant seem to start fresh either. It wont extract the data.gz on boot (data.img has been removed and replaced with a clean data.gz) --- Ignore that, I reformatted the card and tried again and it extracts.

mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 was an error i saw during boot but i think it doesnt mean a thing as I dont have a second partition on my card. I am checking it all again to see if the mounting issue is fixed.

Edit3: Fresh boot, with all the files you provided in the latest package, and still no no card showing up. Strange... :S
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Im going to test right now. DamN I hope wifi works id be so stoked :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
It doesnt toggle. How do I test it?

Have you managed to start the wifi?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
No. I have not even gotten to that point yet, trying to get everything else working first. Finally got my older data.img working so I have internet and downloads. Still can't get the SD Card working. Should I try an ext2 partition or just another fat32 partition?

Also, the wakeup issue is there there aswell. When set to 1 I cant get it to wake up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Try a FAT32 Partion their really fast to when compared to EXT2. Wifi is the biggest thing if it works!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikentucson:
tried the new package. not seeing SD card

formated SD card with Fat32

tried again, not seeing SD card still :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Yeah it sucks :( Seems a bit faster though. I want wifi support most.

(I live in Tucson too lol....)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wstraus:
Just tried out 1.5-06042009 and this is what I got..

I too can not use wifi. However with the sd card, android does not report it in settings> SD card & phone storage nor can I see the pics that put in the dcim folder on my card using Gallery, but I can browse the card using astro file manager that I downloaded from the market. Phone and SMS work fine. Synced contacts and calendar with gmail. The screen comes back from sleep ok using pm.sleep_mode=0 and pm.sleep_mode=0 (defaults in the startup.txt from okibi)

One thing I wonder is if anyone is able to tick the box for Settings> Wireless controls> Mobile networks> Use only 2G networks. It's been greyed out on all the versions I've tried and I wonder if it's my radio or just not working yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
WiFi

Hello Developers,

So 1.5 is out but does it appear like very tiny resolution or has that been fixed? Also how to do I make WiFi drivers work?

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Nope not a tiny resolution. I dont have any resolution issues. Its been fixed.

*Wifi Drivers do not work at all as of now.*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
Android 1.5

So your saying that the icons and everything are normal like 1.5? Also the drivers dont help? Is 1.5 stable like 1.1? Cause 1.1 works awesome for me!

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Very stable. For me atleast. Yes they all work just fine. Nope wifi wont toggle. :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tdavis75:
Great job on the new release. Everything is looking good. Thank you! One thing that I've lost since moving to 1.5 is the ability to make outgoing calls. I know several people have mentioned it in the past. I had it working with a build back in from February with 1.1. But since switching to 1.5 it quit working.

Do you have any suggestions or are there any logs you want me to produce?

Specs:

AT&T Tilt

WM 6.1 (Dutty's)

Radio: 1.71.09.01

Thanks in advance,

Tom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
same for me... SD card still not mounted :(:(

Just in case.. mine is a 2G does anyone who have the SD card working could give its size?

I also have many I/O errors on loading linux.. maybe my SD is not fully compatible :s
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
For me SD is mounted correctly in 1.5 but the gallery could not found images. But Musik Player will find music on my card, i think the problem is the path..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryonic90:
Here's the SD card not working too. It's an 8GB Sandisk. Does not mount :(

The rest is working nice :) Don't know how long it will hold, forgot to alter the values in the startup.txt for internet, so had to reboot to Wimo again ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
Forget my last post... I/O errors were due to a corrupted SD... which just went down... Maybe other recognition issues were related...

i changed the SD card.. and still not seen :( this is a 4g this time... i need to check if a 512k is seen
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
For everyone asking about the sdcard in 1.5: it is getting mounted for you, I guarantee it. You can verify this by opening the terminal (under dev tools) and typing either "mount" or "ls /sdcard" (no quotes on either). You should notice that it is in fact mounted. However, it seems like there are still various permissions/path issues which vary for each of you.

While sleep works, there is still the issue with the display, as mentioned before. For now, leave sleep_mode = 0.

As for wifi, no it doesn't just work and no you can't click the setting to start the wifi. You can however enable it from the terminal, but I"ve only been able to scan for APs, not actually connect.

I'll look into these issues when I get a chance.

It's one step closer and very stable, but not quite there yet.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SkywalkerPD:
Hi,

Great work on the 1.5 version! It is fast and stable.

I'm having trouble setting up my mobile network settings. I've set up my APN settings in de startup.txt But can't connect. I've setup the APN in Android also, but that doesn't help either.

Below is my startup.txt

======================================================

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

#set initrd "initrd.gz"

set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

#

set cmdline "clock-7x00.mddi=0xa51 clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 clock-7x00.a11=528 board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity=1800 board-kaiser-ts.PMAX=700 board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=internet ppp.username=KPN ppp.password=gprs pm.sleep_mode=0 mddi.width=258 mddi.height=344 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"

boot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Its the whole sleep mode that keeps me from using it so far. A few post back some were complaining about the keypad 3 have on my default.txt the panel type set to 2I believe this has caused my keypad(s) to work correctly.

I did notice that on one of the 1.5 builds that it was just one particular folder that I could not get to for pictures, so I just moved anything that I wanted Android to use to its "downloads" folder. Has anyone tried a different picture viewing program maybe its the program iself especially if your using the OEM version.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] doverfr:
Hi,

thanks for your answers ;)

I did have my SD card mounted under the terminal. Which is actually also verified by the fact that i can access downloaded apps...

But still no pictures :(

where are yours stored on the card?

Thanks again for this GREAT work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Xcloud1990:
That's beautiful!! Only 3 things doesn't work for me:

1 I'm unable to connect to my google account (but i can surf on the internet)

2 Gallery image can't see SD card (But music player works fine!)

3 FN layout wrong, i have @ and ! inverted and maybe others..

Any suggest?

I'm using WIND ITALIAN.

#edit: now music player doesn't work even.. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SkywalkerPD:
try changing this setting "board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"