yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
@shadowline

I have also been curious and would like to see how well it does on our kaisers (for showing off purposes only of course :P )

it's a yaffs2 loopfile. ti has some nice doku on it http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php?search=yaffs2&go=Go

the convenient way would be to write the image to an mtdblock and then mount this mtdblock. but if your kernel doesn't support yaffs2, and I think it's not in mainline, you can do it in the android emulator. I found this

http://discuz-android.blogspot.com/2008/01/extract-google-android-file-system.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] killaray:
can anyone post a pic or vid of how advanced android has gotten on the kaiser? i havent d/l it in a minute cause i want it to be fully working already
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I found the same page. and the info about the yaffs2 filesystem. But have had no luck as of yet. But im also not very talented with it either. Id be kept amused for hours by just flicking the widgets on the home screen around. lol

Also, I wonder how this version of android will scale down to qvga size. In the emulator it is quite the difference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Your wish is my command :cool:

Sorry for bad editing but here you go.

Video of android beta 0.9 SDK in action. (6min)

Now it is not on the kaiser (yet) but I would imagine that calls, text, and data would all work as they did with the current ones that are running on the kaisers. 3G only, etc for now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dwaradzyn:
I extracted it this way:

in adb shell:

busybox tar cv /system | busybox bzip2 > /data/system.tar.bz2

and then pull it out:

adb pull /data/system.tar.bz2 system.tar.bz2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Share it with us cuzzzz.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imfloflo:
Just download the SDK on the google page and launch emulator.exe and you can test it and make beautiful screenshot. If you want to try until a new cab release
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dwaradzyn:
filesystem extracted from android running in emulator

system.tar.bz2 is available on http://www.mediafire.com/?zd0qgclvemz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
link?

does anyone have a link to the roadmap for the kernel support for the kaiser? What still needs to get done? How long do ya'll think we have until a fully supported kernel on the kaiser?

Also, how far are we in getting data to work?

P.S: Great job on the power-management driver. Lets keep up the awesome work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
how do we set up the file system to boot this larger android image from the sd card?

I was looking through the vogues method, and it looks like i need to modify the default.txt?

i'm not really sure how to go about this, esp for the ramdisk sizes and such

it seems like we have sd card support, so lets find a way to boot the file system from the card
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imfloflo:
@sswalia

I have this link http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pqSdoLqQGrwcIcYuHOygDbA&hl=fr

and this http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
Speaking of this doc...

Dcordes, you want me to clean it up? I see You're updating it from time to time, but the changes are.... weird.. :)

And a question to all the devs, how much closer does this SDK brings us to porting?

I'm glad i didn't sell my Kaiser, now i can see the real potential of android on it. Especially as it's designed for devices with full QWERTY keyboard and we've got just enough hard buttons on the device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mikulec:
Interesting question, I would like to know that too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
It will not help to kernel's development any way I belive.

To have possibility to get rid of windows is needed:

1) know how to load linux kernel through default bootloader or develop new one

2) have working flash driver (not SD driver) to be able flash device a boot diirectly from it.

3) than we can support other hardware.

Till that time google android running on Kaiser will be still just little funny toy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mbudden:
i dont know if this is going to be any help. but, i got it to run on the last offical 6.0 update from AT&T.

ROM 1.62.502.0

Radio 1.27.14.09

i got what everyone else did, one bar and a shaded out G since im in a EDGE area, ill test when im in a H area. Went to the Maps and it just froze. Hope I helped, I read threw all of here, and it seems everyone is using 6.1 ROMs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
There isn't any news if that counts.. seems to be pretty deeply embedded in the framework. Still, don't rule it out. There's other things like bluetooth to get going though
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Hero Browser and Office

Is it possible to get the browser (with flash), office, and pdf software from the Hero build for the Ion build? Or turn off touchflo3d in the Hero build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
well theres a native android phone with a 2.8 inch qvga resistive screen running a donut rom.. it's called the HTC click..so that might be promising.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
yea, we just need to get the leaked ROM and we'll be straight
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
i wish that just one time we would get lucky and a phone have an identical bluetooth driver as what we need lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rnikec:
Im using android ion 1.5 build.. Everything is working really nice and i'm really enjoying the interface.. I dont have a data plan so how do i get wifi working...?

Wifi is important to me since there a lot of hotspots where ever i go..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
Actually it seems that the G1 has the same TI BRF6300 chip that our Kaiser's have (not 100% sure on this though), might be able to dump the driver from that, might be a little different though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Borkata81:
Yes they are the same, but problems comes from our kernel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pixolex:
It should work out of the box!

go to: Wireless controls -> Wi-Fi (turn on)

-> Wi-Fi settings -> Then, if you are in range, the networks should appear.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
i finally got it...

Hi guys,

I am now the owner of t-mobile g2 touch aka htc hero.

Got it this morning at 9.30am and so far - hmm - I will let you know.

Thanks to all the devs for the work on kasier it was great - i still need my kasier for sat nav at present - as i have pan euro maps etc - and I will keep watching how you get on.

All the best

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
So what exactly is the problem with the current kernel and/or getting the newer kernel to work, aside from the obvious issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
(Deleted Double Post)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Don't you mean the myTouch? The Hero isn't out for T-Mobile...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X-SoLjA:
On top of that, when i received new SMS messages, or replies, the time stamps show 4 hours behind. I had the same problem when using cooked Kaiser roms, but found the fix for that. Is there a similar fix for the Android?

Ideas anyone?

-X-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Make sure your NOT using Network Time (Settings>Time Date>)

Make sure your Time Zone is set correctly, and that you manually set the time correctly.

In Windows Mobile, make sure you set your Time Zone Correctly (Make sure you do this BEFORE you have any data in your Calendar or it will royally screw your appointments up) and then MANUALLY update the time.

You'll have to update the time manually everytime you switch back to Windows Mobile, but it only takes a few seconds, but it should fix any FURTHER SMS time issues. Any that you have already received will still show up with the wrong time stamp (delete them).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
The Click is pretty interesting. Not much out on it but it's probably on pair with the AT&T lancaster minus the keyboard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X-SoLjA:
Even after manually setting the time, still shows up 4 hours behind. ...what I find odd is that, I live in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The time zone is -5 Eastern Time. When setting the time and date on the phone, there is no -5 Eastern, only a -4 Eastern ? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
So anyone want to give me ideas for an app that will transfer data to a new data.img so wallpaper, SMS, call history, etc. are all retained? I can get the entire thing transfered or choose certain parts to carry over. I'm going to make a GUI for it with, I plan, a list view to select changes. There's some things to consider like not overwriting a newer clock widget. Any thoughts would help even if it's just a usability suggestion. The underlying script already works-- just did it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Borkata81:
Well our kernel is 2.6.25 and the one G1 is using is 2.6.27. There are lots of stuff already taken from newer version of kernel ported to our kernel, thanks to dzo and other devs. I think there was even attempt to make 2.6.27 to work for us, but the guy stopped his work at some point. I have also tried to make a working 2.6.27 with no success.

What I have notices so far is that we have the bluetooth driver, but we should have /dev/ttyHS* and to have this we need hco driver compiled for our kernel and with modifications to support bluetooth. I have managed to compile hco for 2.6.25, but I think in the original code for G1 there are changes and we need these changes.

To make it work on vogue dzo worked with different device /dev/ttyMSM and he is the one who can make compatible his driver for us.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
Double post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
I'd say keep it selective as Ion data.img's and Hero/Rogers builds don't seem to agree with each other and visa-versa, but I love the idea as I'm getting a little tired of re-doing my apn info every time I pull down a new build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
So, my next question is, what differences between the 2.6.25 and the 2.6.27 kernels could be causing the instability? Could it have anything to do with the r/w support that enatefox was talking about earlier? Haven't really had a chance to dive into the code as my Linux box is k.i.a atm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Kinda sounds like you a got a pretty good idea yourself if you was planning on building one from scratch. I have looked through the market before for something like this and couldn't find anything
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pixolex:
That GUI/APP will run in linux? :P

Something like PIM Backup? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=299705
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
It would be a PIM backup and it will be cross platform and run on the device. First up will just be a quick script to do the job. I'm not big on Android development yet so this should teach me some things. Right now, one line of code can do the job but I want it customizable. Bear with me..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] blazzr:
It could be a card problem.

If you can't change any ringtones in system settings (but you can see the card and the ringtones with a file explorer app) try another memory card. I used an old 256 Mb card (minimum size) and put android-1.5-2009-08-08 , and ringtones were accessible (hooray! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pjcforpres:
Anyone try the new system image from the leaked Hero update? I am stuck at work for 3 more hours.

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/detail?name=hero.zip&can=2&q=
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
It has no wifi, but there is a new one coming out that does.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Compcache

Where can I download a rootfs.img with compcache support? I'm using the 08/08/09 build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/rootfs-26-08-09.img

http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/zImage-26-08-09

Those are the latest rootfs and zimage (kernel)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Borkata81:
If I know what is different I should have provided bluetooth till now :D

I am not sure about what enatefox was talking earlier, but if it is r/w support this is not the case.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
Ahaha, fair enough, as for what enatefox was talking about was the lack of write support for cramfs I think, and hopefully getting UbiFS working, though I think that has more to do with performance than bluetooth. hopefully I can get my linux box up again sometime this week and do some kernel comparison.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
no its the hero!

Sorry but in the UK t-mobile launced the hero as G2 Touch - www.t-mobile.co.uk

The only thing I don't like is the onscreen keyboard :-( I think the implementation in the ion port was better...but we shall see...

Very responsive - all seems to work ok!

Also I noticed on google code a project called simple now - its basic programming for android - so I might start playing with that now!

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Yes, I fell victim to the stupid "I'm American, everything revolves around me issue" again; I thought you were talking about T-mobile (usa). My apologies.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Does anyone know what the new hero build with Squashfs does for our kaiser? Does it have wifi working with it? I'm currenly using the system-jacheroski1.6-wifi.img just wanted know the difference.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
In case people were struggling with patience to reinstall apps between updated builds, I thought I'd just share this. Assuming adb is in your PATH and you cd to the app folder on your desktop:

find `pwd` -type f | while read file; do echo "adb install $file"; done

If you use Windows, I can't test at the moment but it's about the same.. if someone wants to find the equivelent.

ADB supports queuing of installs automatically.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
The system image has a SquashFS filesystem instead of the old CramFS filesystem.

SquashFS is more efficient both in terms of compression and speed than CramFS.

Just a little, but that can't hurt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
I have added a full distrobution package on my site.

http://www.scarlet-arrow.com/index.php?page=08-26-09---wifi-dma
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Thanks for the info, i was wondering why the battery heat is a prob under wifi? If the same happens under windows mobile. I've noticed in the latest builds it has gotten better..but it usually gets warm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pjcforpres:
Do you know if WiFi works with it? It doesn't say in the description if it has it or not... I am wondering since I am only going to have time to DL 1 system image tonight, and will go with WiFi over squashfs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Yes it does
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Enatefox: What exactly does this do?

Natalic: Thanks for the files. I installed them this morning.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
If you use Mac or Linux, it will take a list of apps in a folder and sequentially install them via ADB to your phone. So you don't have to keep manually installing apps when testing different builds. ADB supports queuing automatically, this is a way to send it a list of apps to queue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
contacts help

Hi Guys,

Now I have my hero i have found that there is an on the sd card to allow you to move contacts from outlook/outlook express on a pc to the handset via sync - the options for contacts are in the settings on the hero - i am assuming the sync exists in the port?

If it's useful I can pull the app off the sdcard for anyone?

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
It's on the HTC site: http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=3&dl_id=631

I have it installed, but can't use it because my friki'n vista does not frki'n install friki'n drivers for the friki'n android usb connection
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
oh dear

Get rid of vista :p - no seriously :) I wish you luck - I had done mine funamobol to start but that errors on occassions!

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
I have other systems, but vista is my corporate laptop (where I use exchange/outlook) so it's not easy...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] voyteckst:
Will it work on Windows 7?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
If you come on irc to the polaris room #POLARIS_DEV after 6pm BST, I' can get it working for you on both systems... guaranteed :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Just got it working on vista. had to try a bunch of different drivers...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kgust:
Reinstall apps between updated builds

I've done almost the same thing with adb...

find -name \*.apk -exec adb install {} \;

For most people, isn't just putting the apks in /sdcard/AndroidApps easier? This mechanism still works; I just tested a build that used it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
There's several ways to do it, just thought I'd share one example. AndroidApps is good too, I like to leave it minimal with AppInstaller and Term to get the first boot to finish faster, then without needing to reboot, I like to install the apps once I've set up initial settings. Also, I think I messed that up while testing it, should've been:

find `pwd` -type f | while read file; do adb install $file; done

Although yours works just the same
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
enatefox are you having problems with the audio on JAC1.6? my sound seems glitchy. plays smooth at first then distorts after a while.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dark-Side:
Same thing here.

Can't change background too and no notification missing call (after reboot only)

Fast and smooth... Good job :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
even if you select an album photo instead of wallpaper gallery?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Someone can help me flash HardSPL? I had it and when I tried to flash a new ROM it just goes straight to Windows. I tried to put HardSPL on again and I get a 262 communication error and it says it's not installed anymore. When I boot, the down button is constantly being "pressed" until I press up. Runs fine once I get to Android. Couldn't find anything about the error though. Sorry this is off topic..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=498320

bad flash with the SPL maybe might try again, maybe a hard reset in winmo before hand would help. I have seen that error onced before on my phone cant remember what was causing it though
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Sorry for the OT post. Stock ROM fixed it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pjcforpres:
Just an FYI, that code usually comes up because you don't have both the H-SPL on the SD card and the KAISDIAG file on their too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dark-Side:
From gallery, TouchFlo crash. from albums no change.

I'll go to test the newest build...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
in 1.5 i cant sent / recieve MMS .. its only my problem ? or its global
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
oh snap, does the new hero mssmisonsystem.img have the fixed sms? that would be awesome.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cdisdi2003:
camers & batarey stat

Who is working properly support the work of the main camera 3.0Mp in android 1.5? Are there such a project. Is the project to improve energy efficiency and battery status?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Unfortunately, it's not as fast as his last build.

Better wait for him to return to a build based on Dizzy, as promissed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
I think a driver for kaiser's sensor chip is still missing. Don't know if anyone's working on it. Doesn't seem so.

If you look at the debug when the camera application is launched, it first errors out when not finding the sensor information file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cdisdi2003:
I have about the same. Not able to find any draft, which would have begun discussing the assault and the lack of drivers to the problem of sensor HTC Kiser.

I know English is not perfect, so use a translator googltranslate russian-english.

But in principle, our problem can be Determine as follows steps:

1. Determine manufacturing companies 3.0mp sensor, and its model.

2. Determine in what phones it still applies, perhaps there is some other Linux phones.

3. In the case of lack of information on item 2, petition the HTC (but I doubt the effectiveness of this step), to provide those drivers.

If step 3 would be ineffective, already require the following work:

1. Find the specifications of the sensor circuit and its connection to the logic HTC Kiser.

In any case, this device has an external programmatically-hardware interface, combined with the logic Qualcom chipset.

want to write a driver for a Linux (android).

The draft design of 2D and 3D drivers for Qualcom saw little point in stating that the problem of hardware acceleration for the camera. may have the right information from these people

Do not forget that the required data for cmos camera module as a whole.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Maybe this can be a starting point: http://xdaforums.com/report.php?p=3712410
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cdisdi2003:
android camera project

There is speculation that a phone with a sensor: Aptina MT9T012 or MT9T013 or MT9T031

Aptina raised to 70% of sensors for HTC, so it is likely that this sensor is used in the phone.

likely MT9T012

http://www.aptina.com/products/image_sensors/mt9t012d00stc/#overview
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
post fail.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
No, it's an S5K3C1FX03 and it's very similar to the vogue camera which works. It's just a matter of tracing the differences and changing some numbers (well, probably quite a lot of numbers..). I just don't have time to do it at the moment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
When I have installed an application from the Market, how can I save the APK file or how can I copy it to /AndroidApps?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
cp /data/apps/* /sdcard/

or, you can use ADB: adb pull /data/apps/ <destination>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
Where is the camera driver in the system.img?