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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
Those that are having looping problems, can you please try to set your resolution in your default.txt to 320x480.

The peeps in mssmisons thread seemed to get caught in the loop if this wasn't set correctly. Not sure if this applies to all of the latest builds.

I am trying to get a cable so I can test myself. Will report back.

Also I highly recommend lurking the vogue forums... It will help you kinda know whats coming to the kaiser, and understand how unstable some of the new builds can be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
ok... modem is diferent now... doenst shows the ip / mask etc information... only connected and disconnected...

the 3g icon is diferent to... now when you connect on modem the icon appears... when you disconnect the icon disappears.. great!

i think the data is faster now... i only had a problem with modem at the first time.. but rebooted and worked fine! like this new way...

but a big problem with this new initrd... the data is more stable... but i cant send SMS now :\

i have my network at full .. everything ok .. but SMS dont send :\

had to go back to last initrd

btw: the hero bundle doenst boots.. it just keeps looping in the splash screen...

ps: this hero full bundle... is this another hero theme or is this the REAL hero ?...

the filesize its 90mb .. hum

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
ruizit, do you have time to diagnose it for me? I'm on irc on #vogue-android... or just need to run a modem log while trying to send an sms...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plemaire78:
Thanks for trhe information, it now boots but ... doesn't go very far after that :rolleyes: (The lock sceen is nice :D:D:D)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I have my default.txt set at that, and it's still not workin for me. I'll keep messin around with it.

And good call about the vogue forum, I'll start peekin in there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
K, I was able to boot.... it will sit on the splashscreen for a very long time. (5 mins)

I then get a force close.. In the vogue forums they seem to recommend waiting through this to the google setup screen versus force closing it. However I never made it to that stage. Lock does work, and I can bring up the new dialer. Unable to reach settings or anything else.

Rebooting now to see if that has any effect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I realized it was set as 324 x 480??? well i changed it and was able to actually boot up. I hit wait for anything that wasn't responding. which seems to be a lot of stuff. had to hit the home screen key (IE key) on the T Mobile screen. and then it went into the setup. So far looks nice, but i'm going to try a fresh data.img to make sure my other one doesnt mess up anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
I could never get GPS to work unless I did it the way I described. If I let it make a new data.img from some of these new builds, things would work, but NOT GPS. Even with a freshly formatted memory and no other files on there.

Homer
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikentucson:
changed my resolution and it gets to the lock screen. attempt to try my code but it wont let me swipe all 4 bubbles. i can get through 3 bubbles and it does the "invalid code" error
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
*Hero build* Even with resolution changed and new data it will not boot completely. Gets the process.acore that has to be force closed then the screen is blank. Can access nothing. No apps or settings.

Using newest zImage and the init and system with the package.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
Giving up on hero for now...

Would like to note other problems I am having..

using the following -

system-nkhero-2009-07-24.img

initrd-2009-08-01.gz

zImage-27-07-09

The phone (ie cellular service) continues to turn on and off, about every 5 seconds... Several boots have not resolved this.

Going to roll back to an earlier initrd.

edit: previous initrd working perfectly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
heres how i got the new hero build working:

1. Change the resolution in your startup.txt/default.txt to 320x480

2. Use the mssmisonsystem.img from July 25th and the initrd-29-07-09.gz to create a data.img.

3. Reboot and replace the system.img and initrd.gz with the ones from the hero build and leave the data.img

4. Boot up the hero build and select wait for any error that pops up. Unless the only option is to force quit.

5. It may take some time but be patient when it runs through the setup process. The keyboard part took me awhile. You can try, but I just skipped the part to setup the google account. You can also setup your Microsoft exchange too!!!

6. It will reboot when done and then you'll be on your home screen. It will say Loading for about 3-5 minutes. Again, be patient. Let it do it's thing.

7. Now you have the new HERO build working!!!!!

8. Setup your APN

9. CELEBRATE! :D

I just got this working, so I haven't had time to tinker. But so far it looks AMAZING!!!

UPDATE: Quickoffice finally works. but calibrate screen doesnt. Also has the Footprints app.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
How is the speed so far compared to previous builds?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mystrorc:
hero Build

I got the hero build working .

It is real slow. Even after I close most of the widgets closed out it still is not running that fast. A word of advice, use the home button, because the back button will hang the system for 2 or 3 minutes.

I switched back to older version cause I could not sync with google. Modem worked and I could browse, but the sync was not working.

By the way to get it to work, I was just patient and had to wait around 10 to 15 min to get the first screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
It's pretty slow so far... I'm hoping that with a little use and messing with the settings things might pick up, but I'm debating going back to the old hero build.

EDIT: The new hero build just isn't cutting it for me... moving back to the themed cupcake build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fosormic:
This is interesting. This happen(ed) to me all the time on WinMo, way before I even started trying Android. I remember well because it would happen when I was driving and the USB cable was too short...so I'd pull it before answering the phone would go mute.

So, too much of a coincidence, but it would be at such a low level, close to the hardware if it happens under two different kernels/OSs.

Just commenting. Already moved to a G1 (on AT&T's Edge...GRRR).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
sure! but what is your IRC network ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
To get the sync working you have to go to settings/data synchronization/google and deselect and re-select the gmail, calendar and contacts. then it works.

Homer
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MiZi666:
WOOOHOOOO the new hero bundle is on google code... its amazing, runs very fast and smooth.. "i'm lovin it" :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
What file do I download from http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list Ive searched fast 6 pages and nothing help please thanks. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
For just Android (ION) or one of the hero builds?

For ION I would for the last bundle. For hero go with mssmissions hero lite.

You obviously will need to make sure you have haret, default.txt, and zimage.

Realize that hero might not be quite as stable or fast, however mssmission is improving quite a bit daily.

You can get the full hero running, however its super super slow.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
How slowwww? :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shuk9782:
i'm from malaysia...got tytn2

ROM TPC eliteV9 6.5..

can't run android yet..i got 1.1 n 1.5..freeze!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
actually the latest full is running pretty fast. Make sure you use the blank data file to start. That made a big difference with me. SMS still isn't working though. Have to either tough it out or use older initrd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shuk9782:
RADIO:1.65.XX.XX

I'V TRY IT so many2 times..didn't work anymore..

now flash ultimate X2 V8 ROM...n will try again..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
SMS does not work. I got the hero build working perfect other than that. Its pretty fast too :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
I have trouble to get a working data connection in the latest (88.7MB, just uploaded before the light-version) fully Hero build.

In default.txt I same set the 3 ppp-settings.

In Android itself I also set the APN. In the beginning I see the 3G in in notification bar, but now it is disappeared.

When I start modem I saw 'the data connection was failed'. When I press Connect immediately it said Turning on data. Done!

The 3G icon does not appear, so my conclusion is that there is no data connection. The browser and other programs which needs a data connection are not working.

When I disconnect and connect again, it makes no sense.

Am I doing something wrong? Looking forward to read your tips and tricks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Earlier somebody wrote that he could not send messages.

I also can not do that.

When I go to settings -> Service Center I enter the Service Center number: +31626000230. I click OK and press 'Home' to be in the first message screen again.

When I go to Settings again, without doing anything in between, the Service Number is gone.

Who has a solution for that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I've also tried adding my service center number with no luck. Hopefully this will be addressed and fixed soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] s0undw4v3:
The ION Bundle was working for me (no phone calls, no microphone/speaker when receiving calls, no data except browser, but still...), but the Hero / Hero Lite are stuck on the logo screen... "Hero" - "htc", with sounds even - but it repeats itself forever...

I tried deleting the data.gz and the "blank" data.gz from the download page - but it's the same.

KAI130 btw.

any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] NarSan:
maybe this help's

download this and paste in your sd card.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1ywgzn4zgm2

when android booting, you must waiting... ang then you see t-mobile screen, you must

waiting and if the show is a mistake you have to wait, do not close it. when you see

window with language choices close previous window (error). and you must set in default.txt

mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] s0undw4v3:
I didn't use your link, but changing the resolution and LCD density

made it work!

THANK YOU! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] NarSan:
no problem :)

anyone knows whats about wifi working?

it is possible to copy contact's from old data.gz to new data ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
What intrid is that? The original one works but I cant send SMS but I can receive. I dont know what zimage i was supposed to use either but it worked. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
what is a service center number?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
I was just wondering if there had been any progress on the outgoing calls issue for T-Mobile users. If not, it's not a huge deal.

All of you guys that are putting in work on this thing, you're doing one heck of a job and thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
I think they mean smsc, where SMSes are routed from/to cellphone. You need it for sms to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stylezniles:
Running most recent bundled version of Android (7/23/09), I ran into a random strange bug. The very first time I booted, I was playing around with the Alarm Clocks. I was able to change the values of the first Alarm, but not the 2nd or 3rd ones; no matter what I changed in them, when I pressed the Back/OK button, they reverted to their default value, as if I hadn't changed anything at all.

After messing around with some other things in the phone, like trying out the API Demos, changing a couple Settings here and there, and opening up the Media player, I went back and tried changing the Alarm again for the hell of it. Alarms were now saving the changes I made to them. :confused:

'tis a minor issue in the grand scheme of things, I know, but I figured I'd post it anyway for the sake of documentation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
is the SD working in the hero build? I cant view photos or music on my sd card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] NarSan:
me too and i can't copy contact form sim card.

notifications call don't working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Yeah it freezes on that dialog :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
yeah i can see the SD card if a data file is already extracted..but its slower, and more problematic that way..album crashes when loading pictures off the sd, and touchflo seems to be slower by all the errors.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MOUSEY:
The new HERO built seems to be working for me, here are my findings (for future reference):-

Here's what I did:-

1) Download and extract hero.zip into SD

2) Download the new initrd.gz and rootfs-2009-08-01.zip into SD

3) Edit default.txt and make sure the following were in it:-

"mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160"

4) Boot HARET.exe and allows it to create a new data.img

5) Add a new APN entry into the Wireless Settings

6) Reboot again (Dunno why but my 3G only came after a few rebootings)

Some additional notes:

1) The connection was only establish after going into WIRELESS CONTROLS, uncheck MOBILE NETWORKS and check on it again. Always check your modem status, if it hangs there; reboot again.

2) Google sync and web browser is working

3) I also added APN entries in default.txt (just in case) - someone may wanna advise me if it's really required or not

4) The timezone is correctly identified using mobile location but the time is still out by a few hours.

5) SMS/MMS/Notification seems to fail (com.android.mms). I'll try to put proper settings in and try again later

6) Music application and Album both complains cannot find SD Card

7) Market is working

8) Google maps is working with correct mobile triangulation location (latitude is working)

9) Phone ok but only after receiving 1 call, dies after that (could be due to enabled data sessions)

The UI is impressive, love the HTC widgets. Thanks to those who put effort onto it !

Updated: Second reboot rendered the 3G to be missing again. Hmm... Not looking forward to play with this anymore. Switching back until new updates were applied.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] katmandu421:
I've been looking through signatures for a while and just decided to ask bc I didn't see anybody: Is anybody using this on the Sprint Mogul?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Is there any progress in making android flashable on our devices? I think there would be a great speed improve if it runs from internal storage.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sisqo:
yes i think it would be an improvement, but as long as the camera, wifi dont work, i don't know why would you want to flash it:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shuk9782:
radio:1.65.xx.xx

rom:ultimate x2V8 w6.5

android 1.5/GPS

running perfectly for my device(tytn2)..but internet too slow..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Yes, you're right...but:D...i would like to know how big the speed difference is, and i think it would save the life of our sd cards:rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
You can replace SD-Card but not the built-in memory. Besides, SD-Cards have hardware implemented wear leveling. Speed difference though is indeed a valid argument.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] goander:
As long as there would be an option to flash back to WinMo, I think a flashable Android Rom would be a good test. As long as I could flash back to WinMo, I would not mind testing an Android Rom, even without camera/bluetooth/wifi/etc. The important things, SMS/MMS/Calls/Data/Sync/etc., all seem to work fine enough for me, less the latest HERO build.

I think the community could benefit from user experience of a flashable Android Rom.

Just my 2¢ :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
can anyone confirm a working sd card in the hero build?

@ajclai08 which image or initrd created your data.img?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Hello everyone, while looking for something new to kill my Tilt with I came across this hero build for the vogue, for me it seems to run much better than the current. And seems to have working SD Card at least for me. You could give it a try for the time being, the thread is over in the vogue section titled "Zenulator's New Hero Build" and the google code repository where it can be downloaded is at http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/

Good luck! :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
Vogue Android

I've been using the build from here: http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/

not http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/

and it is soooo much faster, still have the SD-Card problem, only thing i do miss is the HTC Contacts Widget. If he could add that in i would be so happy.

Has anyone notice a drop in reception whilst running android. Is it my radio?

^^ Wow posted as i was writting ^^^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Diznario:
My phone has always had a better signal, and much more dependable network connection in Windows Mobile than it does in Android.

I would assume this is part of the growing pains of Android, but if there is a specific radio version that fixes this issue I'd love to know about it.

I'm currently running 1.65.24.36 on my Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I reflashed the latest AthineOS Naked and it takes a couple minutes max to boot Windows-- nothing else installed. I just tried the vogue-hero build. Flawless, except for of course the usual.

> Gallery *is* working so I can set the lock screen

> I believe (still testing) that the SD card issues are all fixed.

> GPS still not working for me but that might be my radio or the fact I didn't enable it in Win. I don't have data and I think there's a way to pre-download maps but it's a moot point.

> Made a 256Mb data image for all my apps and it boots so quickly.

It's fast. Best Hero build yet-- as fast as ION but with Rosie. Tell your friends.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
I have read that with the Hero build there is no data connection, but a lot of people is using this build.

I also do not have a data connection, but I am wondering if everybody has problems connecting data.

When you have or do not have problems connecting data, please tell if you are roaming or not.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] diagdave:
anyone have trouble importing sim contacts on hero builds?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
CDMA vs GSM

Hey just though I would point out some differences between the two. Not sure if they are what is causing the breaks in the newest builds or not.

CDMA is unable to run data and voice simultaneously. It cuts in and out between the two. You are unable to run something like google maps and talk on the phone at the same time.

GSM is designed now to run both together. I wonder if the difference in the radio types is what is causing the problems with our voice and SMS. With GSM you can run both google maps and talk. Or surf the internet while talking. I don't know exactly the programming differences.

Considering the recent challenges we are having with the kaiser builds I was just thinking of this and thought I would point it out. Thanks for all the hard work from the current developers!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
diagdave, I hadn't check SIM contacts but yeah-- hanging at the black screen when you go to import. I'm going to look, I'm sure there's an app that can do it.

Unfortunately BetterCut doesn't recognize HTC's home. Haven't checked AnyCut though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
I've got this build up and running. Had to reboot for data to work, but it seems to be up and running now. My Google account is syncing now, already had an email come through.

SMS doesn't seem to be working.

SD card DOES work. Set my own home screen background and am listening to music playing off the SD card as I type this.

Hardware keyboard works, but shift doesn't have any effect (i.e. can't type caps).

Runs faster than the other Hero builds, though still a lil wonky. Also, I miss the Twitter and Contacts widgets.

As always, thanks to everyone working on the project!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
I'll give it a shot once sms is working. That's something that I need on a daily basis lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
Hero Build

Hello Everyone,

I tried to run the new hero build from the vogue-hero site but it doesn't boot. It starts to show Hero and make the sounds and then goes to htc. But the glowing freezes after a while and it goes back to the hero sign and starts making the sound again. I heard it do it 5 times but still it wont boot. Can someone tell how to properly install on it the sd card. I'm running official att rom. Previous ones have worked but not this one. Please let me know.

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
make sure in your default.txt you have mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 and some say you can add lcd.density=160 but I dont have it and it's running just fine
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
HTC hero build not running

Hello Loserskater,

Okay I'm gonna try that but do I need to name it default.txt because I have it as Startup.txt. Does that make a difference? Please let me know.

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
You can use either name - it doesn't matter.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I believe if you have it named default.txt you'll get the screen when you start haret that says listen for network and run, but if you have it startup.txt it will just automatically start booting
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
HTC Hero Build not working.

Hello Loserskater,

I tried renaming and everything but still doesn't work. Previous one's have but not this one. Do you have any more ideas? Please let me know.

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you aren't clearing your SD card out-- an old data.img perhaps? I'm guessing that maybe 80% of these types of errors are all Level 8. Clear your card out then follow the directions to the letter.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Wifi works

Looks like someone got wifi working..all we need is a system file

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=541884&page=4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
That is (or at least was today) being worked on somewhat today, but I don't believe anyone other than addisu has actually been able to get wi-fi working.