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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Using the latest xRom system.sqsh (1.5r4) with the basefiles from the latest Google Ion release. Everything works almost perfectly, but for whatever reason sometimes I exit an application (anything from "settings" to Better Terminal Emulator) and it seems that the Android home (Android Advanced Launcher, maybe?) crashes and reloads (usually no error message...it just takes several seconds for the wallpaper, shortcuts, and widgets to come back). I am currently running ramzswap with 32mb and a 64mb backing swap, neither of which is being utilized heavily (according to "free" in the terminal), so I don't think that it is an SDcard lag issue...unless the operating system is unloading the desktop when in an application? It isn't really very consistent, sometimes it does it, and other times the homescreen just pops back up instantly, which is why it has me stumped. Anyway...wondered if anyone had any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
how do you make mms to work ?

what APN's do you have ? only the internet APN ? or do you have a specific APN for MMS ?

does your MMS recieve automatically or you have to connect first in modem ?

ill never managed to get mms working :|

tryed diferent ways.. with modem connected .. with modem disconnected.. with default messaging program ,.. with handcent..

tryed a APN with MMS config from my network..

nothing :|

what im doing wrong ? or it depends on the network ?

if anyone knows how to fix it.. ill apreciate.. in my country the mms are free... so i send / recieve lots off mms and i have to reboot to winmo lots of times :(

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
My MMS works as well (Both sending and receiving)

The settings I use are the same settings assigned when setting up the APN (for AT&T). I'm using an AT&T TILT on AT&T with the settings from this website:

http://modmygphone.com/wiki/index.php/Carrier_APN_Settings#AT.26T

My default text also mimics those settings:

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1 pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=324 mddi.height=432 lcd.density=160 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

Sends fast, auto downloads. I'm also using the latest Ion build (from last day or so) with the new basefiles from todayish.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
but how many APN's do you have in your settings ?

or in your network the APN for internet is the same to MMS ?

do you have to connect in modem first to recieve/send MMS ?

i think its because my network has diferent settings for internet and MMS

so there is 2 diferent APN's

1. TMN internet

2. TMN MMS

(tmn is the name of my network)

saw it here ---> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=544250

i tryed to add the 2 APN's internet and mms.. but cant download mms... even trying to connect modem first..

errrrr

dont know what to do more.. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
I only have one APN.

I never use Modem anymore. Haven't had to for about 3 months or so; probably longer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
hum you dont use modem ?

if i dont make connect in modem i cant get internet :confused:

how do you get internet if you dont connect first in modem :confused:

what release are you using ?

back to mms thing

if i dont have modem connected when downloading mms it says:

"Currently unable to donwload... please try again later"

if i connect modem doesnt says anything but doesnt download anything to :\

damn i think this is a problem from my network :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Olá,

He probably has a cdma phone, no?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Again, here are my specs:

Device: AT&T Tilt

Service: AT&T

Type: GSM

Rom: Shifu 10 WM6.1

Radio: 1.65.24.36

Android System: Google-Ion-2009-09-12.zip http://vogue-android.googlecode.com/files/Google-Ion-2009-09-12.zip

Android Base: basefiles-20090915.zip http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/basefiles-20090915.zip

I never have to use Modem, because the devlopers started using the STARTUP.txt (or Default.txt) to configure and autolaunch the ppp connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Well, that does not work for everybody, as ruizit0 posted.

I have the same behavior also.

Perhaps its an UMTS thing. It happens with all builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
is l26 an lg device?

I will provide a zImage with our latest changes from the linuxtogo git later this day.

I will also upload a console image for testing purpose later (you can read the AT data from the arm9 in it. Just create a device node using mknod dev/smd0 254 2 and use cat /dev/smd0 to read from it. you will see incoming calls, sms etc.)

This is one of the current mayor problems: We can read from the AT buffer but not write to it which is essential for any phone operations i.e. writing sms, making phone calls but also for using the gps. The gps deveice in kaiser is controlled also with AT send buffer. So once we hve it working we only need the msm_proc_comm work to make calls on the kaiser! If somebody knows what I'm talking about please have a look in arch/arm/mach-msm/smd-kaiser.c

Any hints/improvements appreaciated
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hellz:
Just a note:

I'm using the Dutty Apr 29th Hybrid, Installed the CAB, used the 051408 zImage (the latest one seemed to not work) and then just tried the latest Haret beta from here:

http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20080510.exe

With the latest beta installed it launched android immediately. I'm going to try the latest zImage after I play with this for a little. And thanks for the thread! (May want to include the link to the latest beta in the first post? Just a suggestion.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pazookie:
haha thats classic...its a rom by Laurentius26 aka L26.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eltabry:
how can i exite dial bad ?

i can not do any thing elss
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] res036:
signal

hey im able to get android to boot but once it does iv got not service signal anyone else having that prob:confused: im using L26 diamond rom v4.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Nate731:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=2259346&highlight=radio#post2259346

Nobody has ported the radio for the Kaiser yet...

Also see dcordes' post above.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Lokioki:
I am using second zImage and Kaiser. I click "All" and go in "Api", question is how can I go back in the previous menu, "All" ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
The Beta is only needed if you don't use Dutty's Diamond ROM. Cause with the new versions HaReT won't work on Dutty's Diamond ROM. But other ROMs boot better with the new versions.

No the Radio is not working yet.

Depens on wich zImage you're using....

Is to soon to try that. First we need to make shure every thing is working. Then we can work on the 100% boot and fixing the radio: to make calls, data, sms etc.

Radio isn't working yet!

A.t.m Soft-reset is the only way to go back @ the menus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Bro. Check this on the HaReT page!!

HTC Titan msm7500 Ok processor type now detected in Kevin's build from 08/01/07 (http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTCTitan)

That's why HaReT boots up all the time in dutty's diamond test rom. Cause HaReT says that it's a MSM7500. I've PM'd dutty of how he did that. But no response back :(

You guys with the other Diamond ROMS. HaReT shows Kaiser or MSM7500???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edoardo.porra:
anyone have radio working?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] punkcell:
runs good on the latest death rom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zlamma:
Im willing to help remap the back button. I just need a little starting info like where the button config can be located.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Reade: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2260641&postcount=61
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
You have to run the Android SDK.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] webvan:
Thanks, switched to that one and now it's working with Death v3.5 ROM. Need to figure out how to navigate around the interface now though!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] webvan:
Quick question though, how are people getting these Google Maps with no connectivity ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ap0ll0:
works great on official HTC german 6.1 ROM :D

at least i have to find out how to map the back key, then it would be great. Also i would like to get a connection to use the browser and the phone...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] riano:
I've been lurking around this thread (and the previous one) for a while now and I'd like to congratulate the developers on a job well done!

Now, would it be possible for one of the devs to lay out some guidelines as to what I'd need to help out? I'm just not familair with programming for devices but if it doesn't make me bend over backwards I'd like to try and help out where I can.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wally21:
Same here:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Bartuk:
hey all

i just regged to test this on my MDA Vario III and it works, though it freezes from time to time :)

i have the original german T-mobile rom installed.

btw the OK button on the left side is working, u r able to edit contacts with it and the wallpaper settings(though the action is not supported yet ;) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
Please go and visit linwizard phorum. This is different processor, so you need also different loader.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
Question

So i've got an kinda odd question.

All of our kernel work so far has been based off of dzo's work with the msm7500 kernel right? Would the msm7200A kernel that is being fully developed by google (i think) be better at running the hardware on the kaiser?

The way i figure, the 7200A kernel should have really good drivers that use the hardware of the Dream well. Since our kaisers have similar hardware, would it be a better use of our time to just wait for full release of the dream's kernel?

I guess i am just a little confused on which kernel we are using, and if it is possible to at some point have a fully optimized linux kernel for the kaiser.

PS: we should have this thread restickied- it is the most interesting development news for the kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I second the stickie. with android (rumored) to go final in a few months we need all the help we can get to have it running by then.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] teh_net:
android uninstall is it possible?

Hi to all

the Android is very good looking but is it possible to "uninstal" it if we wish?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ayle:
It's running on top of windows mobile from a memory card, it doesn't replace the phone os.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
So are we waiting on a better kernel from google, the msm7200A kernel, before development for the kaiser can really get going? Or are we going to be stuck with the modifying and tweaking the msm7500 kernel to work with our device?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] teh_net:
10x a lot

10x for the replay....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kapollo:
Well, it is possible that Dream's kernel will work with Kaiser but it's slick chance since the kernel binary is specifically tailored for the particular device (in terms of CPU, serial console, and so on). For 99.99% Dream will have it's hardware connected in a different manner than Kaiser.

If You don't know: address space (and thus memory map) of some HW elements is determined by their physical connetions to the CPU, so if HTC connects one chip differently to the CPU chances that kernel will work fall by 90% :). Of course there is also the boot loader but it only can configure the hw, we still need valid address space address to access the particular HW element.

But if we would be able to get the kernel source from Dream then ther's no problem, we would need to just port changes specific for the Kaiser and so on.

PS. everything is of ocourse only my opinion not the facts that I know 100% but rather 99% :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dagentooboy:
is the GRPS/EDGE internet working? I am not in a 3g area and my phone calls don't seem to go through. Is this normal? I have been watching this thread since it started and I did read at one point that 3g was working but the rest was not. Is that still true or did I configure something wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
There is new image available at vogue's site based at 0.9 toolkit :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Praygo:
So... to get this to work perfectly on the Kaiser, are waiting on someone to get their hands on a dream to reverse engineer?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ilpanos:
Well i have duttys old wm6.0 rom.

The haret of the first post folder freezes at about 95%.

Is there any way i can start harret without flashing to wm6.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
dzo's vogue tree(patch) is also based on the google code.

and no, nobody is wasting their time
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kapollo:
Yeah ... I got a sdcard controller timeout and a beautifull kernel trace...

either we have old sdcard controller code, or something is emm wrong :/

don't have the time to check it now, maybe someone else was/is on that agenda and can shed some light on it.

cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
please check http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt you will notice there are problems with sd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kapollo:
Yeah I thought I saw that somewhere, unfortunately the android rigged for the vogue depends on big files. Maybe it will be ok if I'll change the config to use ungzipped images, hmmm...

Unfortunately it isn't specified if any operations on large files make it die, or it's just writing large files that stuffs the DMA, still I'll try to find some time to do this, who knows might be worth a while
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cboy007:
if you guys get android running on the kaiser (or should i say when), you will be my heroes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
are you willnig to change your avatar then? :) ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sampcyn718:
LMAO.:D..classic
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Booting Android w/o WM

Guys,

I bought myself a new SDHC. I was thinking what to do with my 4GB microSD. I came up with the idea to have Android installed on this one.

Is there a way to have Android installed on the SDHC-card and when I soft-reset it boots from the SDHC-card instead of WM?

Thanks,

Temba
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
Ola :P

dont know pmos69 .. ok so i can conclud that we dont have cdma in portugal err
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
aaahh lol .. you said it all .. forget lol ...

i have ppp auto start disabled because battery :)

ok i know now why you dont need to use modem... because your modem is connected at startup... :rolleyes:

but even with modem connected i cant send/recieve mms...

i think is because pmos69 said... cmda phone errr

btw: pmos69 is there any workaround for us here in portugal ? :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tubuss:
Android works superb, but when I try to download something from market it just say "starting download" and nothing happens, phone is connected to net via WiFi and AndroidApps & download folders are created on card. Anyone know where´s problem? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
A bit more info is helpful. What Android Variant/Version are you using?

(xROM 1.5r4c, Ion 9-12-09, Hero, Cupcake, etc)

I've had that happen a few times, I simply stop the download. And then restart it. Many times its the FIRST time that I try a new ROM that happens. If it still doesn't start downloading, try starting/stopping the wifi/mobile network and then restart the download too. That usually clears up the issue for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Tubuss:
actually Ion 9-12-09, ok I´ll try it more times
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
renice

Is the renice script people were using part of the rootfs or something now? In the user.conf's it has renice enabled but in the basefiles theres no renice.txt or anything. I know there was one at one point. And if it is part of something else now where is it? I checked the rootfs and system's and couldnt find anything.

I was going to try and figure out how to renice (if possible) sms. Not mms, but regular text. I notice that it takes awhile to receive texts and I'm a big texter so I was just going to take a look at it for fun. And also does anybody have any input on which service(s) it would be?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Diznario:
1.6 SDK

In case you guys haven't seen this yet, the Android 1.6 SDK is out:

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/android-16-sdk-is-here.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
It's integrated in the userinit.sh script in rootfs.

(/bin/userinit.sh)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
My battery doesnt seem to last more than 3-4 hours with these builds... :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
It'll be exciting to get it working, as it means we should be able to use the native QVGA resolution with fewer issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mchinery:
ION build problem

I have been using th ION build for the last couple of days and its much faster.

I have one problem that I can not seem to solve.

In the notification bar I have the message 'Ongoing' with the message text reading 'Loading Data. Please Wait...'

This notification does not clear even after I have rebooted?

Does anyone have any ideas why is notification is alays displayed and how I can clear it. I have killed all runnning tasks but this makes no difference.

Any help would be most welcome.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
The build with SenceUI is fast if you do follow :)

When you remove the default on TouchFLO in application management

and reboot you can select to start in normal ION or start the HERO touchflo

When you start in normal ION it is super fast
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garynsa:
Can you provide the files u r using

Can you provide the link to all files u r using

Thanks

Girish
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
read this

http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/battery
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Latest version 10-09-2009

http://kaiser-hero.googlecode.com/files/kaiser-hero-100909.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
didnt you install anything ? like a weather or rss app/widget ? anything that requires internet ?

your problem sounds like anything like that
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
I never get my kaiser working with hero:(

I install everything and when I start it.

I have the linux logo wih full of text.... for longtime and it hungs with the linux logo and black screen with the texts.

someone can help pls ?:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Post your default.txt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
you it is

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=internet ppp.username=none ppp.password=none pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 lcd.density=160 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

boot

thx for help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scenic43:
Hello,

I have a problem when i boot up android hero build (kaiser-hero-130809-1) with my htc tytn 2 (rom Ultimate-X2.V11 -23017|M2D|MOTO Home|CHome|Enhanced Version) its comes with a pin code and when i do that on a windows mobile 6.5 the pincode it´s working but not booting with android hero.How can i fix this must a do something in the default.txt. It is a t-mobile sim-nl.:confused:

Thanks scenic43
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryonic90:
You need to disable PIN in windows mobile. Then it will work, PIN does not work in android yet, that's why you need to disable it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Everything looks fine there... There's a lot of things that could be causing it...

How long are you leaving it on the black screen when booting Android? It can take as long as 5-10 minutes on the first boot...

What files do you have on your SD card?

What Android build are you using?

What WM ROM and radio ROM are on your Kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
I dont wait more tha 2 minutes

I use the last version (0916)

I try it with more than one Rom

noThrill

Dutty

the OEM fra

etc...

the only one think that I have 4go SD and there is on the same SD tomtom go application

for hero I copy everything there is in the hero zip

:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mchinery:
Problem solved

Hi ruizit0,

Thanks for the information. It was a weather widget that was causing the problem which I have uninstalled and the problem is now fixed.

Thanks very much for your help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] scenic43:
thanks for reply Cryonic90:

Where can i find that disable pin on windows mobile 6.5 .

When i found it can i also enable it again so my windows mobile 6.5 works with my old sim code.:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 160bpm:
Find out when trying... When you do above you can switch between 2 layouts using the wnw button (right of the windows button)

then you can select you want Hero or startPage :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Give it more time, like FloatingFatMan said, Hero especially can take a LONG time to boot on the first boot. Boot it up, and let it sit for 10-15 minutes, if it still isn't coming up, you may have a problem somewhere. 2 minutes is not nearly long enough to wait.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Hey, anyone get the "IM" application that is baked into the xRom builds (AIM, Yahoo!, MSN Live) to work? Any time I try to sign in to one of the services, it just says it can't find my phone number on my SIM card. Any solutions out there?

Thanks!

Addendum: On a related note, there are applications such as "PDF viewer" that give a message "This application only works on HTC devices." Just wondering if there were any workarounds for this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
2 minutes isn't even close to enough time. Wait at LEAST 10 minutes before doing anything.

Which noThrills or Dutty? That's not enough information. Which version of WM? 6.0? 6.1? 6.5? It will NOT work from a 6.0 ROM

What radio version are you using? The OEM one might easily be far too old to work.

As for copying the files in the zip, please list them here. You might not have renamed a file that needed to be renamed.

If you want help, you need to actually provide the information asked for.