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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
Yes they are capable. We can run Xfbdev, the touchscreen just doesn't work yet. Also I tried qtopia which is a bit like opie for phones. Kaiser's framebfufer in linux looks promissing. You can play movies well, probably better than on wm (marbalon tried that)

What I'm aiming for is openmoko FSO. It's likely to become the official successor of the current openmoko stuff. We will soon receive professional help from one of the openmoko inc. employees who is going to get himself a kaiser and port not only the gui, but also the command sets. So we can look forward to have a fully working, usable kaiser in linux soonish. This will also apply to the other phones similar to kaiser. (at least the msm7200 ones, polaris niki etc, msm7500 vogue and the like will need cdma specific changes in the phone api).

What's important hardware driver wise to get the fully working part is improving the sd driver (there are problems performing larger reads/writes which causes DMA errors). Also we need some conection other than gprs (hsdpa should work with the current smd driver, it will just be some other commands than gprs) like the wifi, bluetooth or usb. To my understanding usb won't be too easy (not even dzo has it working yet) so it will be best to go for wifi. If that's done, I think we got to a point where linux on kaiser is really becoming useful, assuming a working gui with a stable phone api will be present by then.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] herriojr:
Application Install

Has anyone managed to get a user-created application installed under Android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
Well I managed to get OPIE working with Angstrom image ;)

What I really need to move from WINmobile is working wifi but ESPECIALLY GSM CALLS. It there any progress in this area?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] herriojr:
Key Mappings

I noticed that the key mappings you guys are using isn't working properly for the device. When I was helping with the N810, someone was able to get it working. If someone wants to try and apply it to this project, the boards we used are located at: http://groups.google.lu/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/7028432fa76f57e8
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ayle:
How do we get stuff like the customizable lock, pacman and everything steve horowitz showed at that conference?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fb401:
As soon as Google releases the newest Android SDK. They've been holding it back and dishing it out to only the top competitors for their software contest.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] herriojr:
File System Access

Are there any drivers available to access the filesystem when running Android? Or rather, how can I mount the file system on the device when running Android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
If you have shell, which is not included in android image, than you can play with it without any problem...so ask google for terminal program
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
we really need to get this thread stickied again...

So the rundown I take it is, a certain someone is still on vacation, android now boots from sd (when we have the filesystem to do so unless i missed something,) we are waiting for a new sdk to come out to get newer useful features, and its is working with data and calls... have I missed anything?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
did you make the touchscreen work in opie? that's my problem with openmoko where you have a dialer. (x11 and gtk based, so won't work in you opie image). mind uploading the opie rootfs somewhere or emailing it? tia

@shadowline there are problem with the SD driver that cause DMA errors which causes trouble with the SD booting. angstrom rootfs on sd works but not stable. don't know exactly about android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
Working Complete Android Build With Wifi

As easy as copy and pasting to SD card

Download: Click Here!

Enjoy!​
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JabbalSingh:
Thanks buddy. It worked like a treat.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] irwjager:
So close... Turns on OK, finds my access point OK, acquires an IP address OK.

Apps still can't push through any traffic though.

On my device (O2 XDA Stellar) this build also crashes the phone app on an incoming call; "Sorry! The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again"

Kudos for packaging it all into a nice .rar though; installation was a breeze!

Edit: updating radio to 1.71.09.01 made WiFi work, leaving a bunch of other issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
No Problemo ;) Glad it made things easier on you. It works for me perfect, and others reported to me it works for them too. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
IS it possible to make a batch file in Android, that runs the terminal and getrom install?

Just a thought.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Toobig:
Same for me!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] plemaire78:
Wifi works for me but when I turn it of and want to use my 3G connexion, it doesn't work anymore :confused: "modem connexion failed"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
bally3, it really isn't too much to run it in the terminal. They're working on getting it to not need that step but until then, if you just do it one time you won't need to again.

Also, since now I can get internet, I'm working on a light build of Ubuntu with LXDE or hopefully KDE4 if I can keep it small enough. Having some issues with the ARM port but I'll have a script you can run to get a desktop up and running. Can't wait to use Firefox on my phone..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
I'm testing hero build from here http://drop.io/calibrationfiles and I can't use 3G any more - where's modem aplication? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
sure is a sweet idea... i wonder if anyone will ask if we can run winmo virtually in android once we all flash android roms on our devices... bet theres someone who will ask!! lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Well, the distro runs chrooted, but needs (for now) VNC to show the display until x11 can magically work on Android. So we could have a WinMo emulator from Microsoft running in a VirtualBox image of XP running on Ubuntu with the display forwarded to the Android host.

Anyone know how to make the Hero bootup sound die? It's not just annoying but irresponsibly loud.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Diznario:
Update on the signal constantly turning off and back on issue

I'm on AT&T, and using the "android-1.5-2009-08-04.zip" bundle with the new rootfs, and I'm also using the supplied default.txt. With this setup, the AT&T APN is created automatically, but there appears to be a flaw in it - it doesn't have the password filled in.

So, all I did was edit the APN and enter the password, ("cingular1" in this case), and now everything seems to be working fine. I think the broken APN was causing the voice connection to go up and down as it constantly tried to reconnect every few seconds.

With the APN fixed, voice and data now both work automatically, even after a reboot, with no modem tool required.

=)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
You may be on to something. ;) We could have an ubuntu that runs both Android apps, and windows mobile apps. :D (since ubuntu is already working on the former in their next release. :D) So we can have desktop style apps, android apps, and winmo apps. Next thing we need is a WVGA screen. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
Just curiously.. What exactly is the problem with making a flash rom of android to replace windows mobile?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
ibanezbass, go for it...

we don't have a working bootloader, and so far we're having trouble writing then reading back from nand.

Can someone try the latest files from my site (code.google.com/p/vogue-android)?

You'll just need a different zImage with NAND enabled, but everything else should be ready to go, as long as I brought over all the necessary files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
Trust me i wish i knew where to start, however my coding skills are.. eh.. lacking lol. However with the bootloader, isn't it possible to adapt the wimmo bootloader to fit our needs? or perhaps make a hybrid of the kaiser and dreams bootloader?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
vilord, I tried the 8-4 bundle (I assume that's what you meant) and got no wifi, can't turn it off, keyboard layout is wrong for ATT Tilt and su is working perfectly. I used the zImage in the bundle. Don't know which is NAND enabled-- the one that addisu put up?

The 8-2 bundle wifi "works" but will instantly drop me with "disconnected." I've had the best results with Hero so far but I don't know if anyone is still going to update it and no one's told me how to add wifi to it to develop it further.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
wifi bundle

I downloaded the bundle from the paradox but it seems quite unstable...

Finds wifi after following instructions but data sometimes works and sometimes goes and now i cant go into the settings on the control panel without

Sorry

Activity wireless controls is not responding

Force close/wait

Wait does not work just hangs it

and then force close fails ..

Good work guys so far always thought someone would crack it before i change my phone so very impressed...

Whats happening with bluetooth support? As for me this was more important than wireless , also noticed my normal data connection now does n't work so i think i will go back to an old version for now.

Thanks to all

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
Hero Resolution

Hello Everyone,

Is it possible to use the old resolution for the hero rom on kaiser. (320X428)

Cause when I change my default text to those numbers is always repeats the boot screen. But when I change the 428 to 480 then it works but the widgets dont look right. Can someone please fix that? Please let me know.

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
bravekid20, known issue. Hopefully the much anticipated (for me) build is going to fix that. Will be a complete Hero build versus this which is a minimal to make it usable. Hopefully that will fix resolution and the fact that you can't change the screen brightness
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
when is this build suppose to be ready?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Been waiting a couple of days so can't say. http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bullseye69:
I have been having the no call out problem, Untill now using the rootfs-2009-08-06b.zip i amable to make calls out with no problems.

I am on T-mobile US so it should work for others. hope this helps.

Now all i need is Bluetooth and MMS working :) then i would be set.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
bullseye, that is awesome to hear, very glad I've finally made some progress on the dialing out issues.

Still needs some work for fido/canada and maybe telcel/movistar/mexico too, we'll see.

enatefox, have the key layouts always been wrong? I didn't change them at all since about 2 months ago i think...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I don't think so but on the 8-6 bundle it is. The & key does = for example. Is the rootfs version dependant-- can I put that with Hero? I'm not quite sure what the difference is between that and initrd.gz.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wizzzard:
and Camera and GPS and.......

I tried Android for 1st time last night and was amazed how easy it was to get running on the kaiser. Big thanks to all concerned.

Wifi, 3g, Market, Google Maps (minus gps) Now if TomTom ever port to Android ... I will be set.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
GPS is working.

Go to Menu -> Settings -> Security & Location -> Enable 'Enable GPS satellites'
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ljinsane:
gps doesb fully work...I can personally attest to this, loaded up sherpa..and it works great!

now that we have wifi working...bluetooth and camera...and it's done
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
New download is hanging on booting linux, 3rd try, just stops there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chris_williamson:
GPS only seems to work correctly for people in the northern hemisphere currently, people in the southern hemisphere get their locations flipped to the equivilent location in the north
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BlackBsd:
Thanks,

This was the fix for my issue. The problem is the the APN is being automatically created without a password. In addition the name is "ATT", as opposed to "AT&T", as shown on the WIKI.

Would it be possible to fix this issue and add the "CINGULAR1" password?

I can also verify, at least for me, with the 8-6-2009 bundle

-Sending and Receiving SMS's are working

-Data is working

-I can view ALL pictures on my SD card.

There are a few items I will be testing when I leave work.

- Receiving a call without first making a call.

- Google Maps App and GPS/location determination.

- Sending picture messages, MMS. <-- This has always worked for me, yet i just wanna re-verify.

-

I noticed that the first time google maps started up, my 3g icons showed the sending arrow lit up and did not change, but data was broken. When this happened the cell phone signal only showed 2 bars and did not reach a full 4 bars. A simple reboot seemed to have Maps transferring and receiving data.. Again I will test GPS later and report back.

THANKS DEVS!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
MMS also works for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
That's not my fault. I hope it works good for everyone who uses my package ;) Ill make more repacks as soon as new better builds come out. But as of now the driver is very unstable and id say its in a beta stage. It works good enough to get applications for market so I'm happy so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bullseye69:
I have tried to do a search and could not find any thing as to getting the mms working on the latest andriod build. what apn settings are other tmobile US users using.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] winmutt:
Anyone have comments on battery life with Android vs winmo6.5?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
I can't get mms to work either with tmobile. I got data working, wifi turns on and connects but it doesn't work. I used to have a G1 but bricked it and the G1 default apn doesn't work, only wap.voicestream.com :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] :
I have AT&T But these are your APN settings for T-Mobiles network.

APN: wap.voicestream.com

username: blank

password:blank

MMSC:216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

MMS Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Some of the cooked roms for the actaul dream are also automatically creating the APN without a password and leaving the "&" out of "AT&T"

Strange.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
I just tried the newest bundle (8-4-2009), and while I don't know if it contains the rootfs-2009-08-06b file, it still does not let me make outgoing calls.

Data works without configuration, so that's awesome. I don't know about incoming calls nor do I know about sms/mms. At least I was able to boot though. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gmanunited:
I have tried the Latest Hero Build. I cannot get Data Connection Working. WiFi is not working either. I try but the operating system keeps running its scripts. I get there by pressing fn+left soft key....

I have also tried cupcake everything worked but phone would not...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You're using the latest Hero build with wifi right (8-2-9)? Wifi is working about as well as the other builds. What are you doing in the root console anyways? It sounds like you are trying to manually get wifi working from the command line so I don't know what your goal is. You could use terminal emulator although su is broken at the moment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gmanunited:
Where is the terminal emulator in the Hero Rom? Yes I am in the terminal console. If there is any other way please instruct or link me please. I received current information from android on htc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
Can't make calls

At can't make calls either. I may degrade my radio or something. Im using 1.70.19.09
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lwy7814:
I did install the same build, and put all files in the root directory of SD card. But after showing HTC at the bootup sequence it was stuck there. Can you help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
If people can let me know what APNs are incorrect, I can fix 'em... AT&T will still be ATT because the & char messes things up, but the password should be good, it was pass= instead of password= in the source file...

I can also add whatever APN's y'all need :)

EDIT: Enatefox: Can you email me the correct keyboard layout files to hikeit atnospam gmail dot com?

knytphal and others who can't make phone calls, I might need some more logs... logcat -b radio -f /sdcard/radiolog.txt, then disconnect twice in modem, then wait 'till the network comes up, then try to make a phone call...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
dont worry

Hi TheParadox,

I know its not your build and you made it easy to set up with clear instructions :-) I was just giving some feedback incase I had missed something - I was running it as supplied - so without using a hero image or anything ?

Regards

phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyler51773:
Tmobile

r: 1.70.19.09

Windows Shifu 6.5 build

Tmobile doesn't recive/send calls. Sip droid freezes phone. Using Android_7_27_2009_kaiser.zip

Sound works

Wifi works.

Says connected to "Tmobile?V"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryonic90:
Wifi doesn't work with the latest files as of now from vilords google site. When I try to do sh getrom in the terminal emulator I get the following error:

"cat: can't open '/dev/mtd/mtd0ro': no such file or directory"

Has anyone else seen this too?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
I have much better life on android. I only need to charge my phone once ever two days or so. I'm using the 2800mah battery. On WM6.1 I basically get 1 day's use out of it. I also noticed that my standby time is alot better with android. Only two days on WM6.1 and maybe about 4-5 with android if I don't use it. I am using a customer ROM on WM and those are not the most energy efficient out there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mikulec:
Hi guys, I hope somenody can help me. I tried the android, it works,but I have a little problem:

when my phone goes to standby and I am trying to turn the screen, the screen turns on only with vertical lines, I cant see the UI and I cant do anything. Does anybody know whats wrong? Could it be some driver from the rom I am using?

Thanks in advance for some info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
well for me battery has been the deal breaker for android. using the standard battery and runs prety ok on winmo. but on android it runs out in under 6 hrs. 2 hrs MAX if use gprs/edge a little. will try ur rom etc but have stopped using android because of this ( though wifi is getting me interested again :) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
My was running out of elektrisitis less then in 6hrs only until I set pm.sleep_mode=1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
vilord, this is the original keylayout from back in the day but it's always had the right mappings.

system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl

#VOLUME_UP ?
#VOLUME_DOWN ?
##key 1
key 2 1
key 3 2
key 4 3
key 5 4
key 6 5
key 7 6
key 8 7
key 9 8
key 10 9
key 11 0
key 12 MINUS
key 13 EQUALS
key 14 DEL
# PTT button (top left)
key 15 ALT_LEFT
key 16 Q
key 17 W
key 18 E
key 19 R
key 20 T
key 21 Y
key 22 U
key 23 I
key 24 O
key 25 P
key 26 LEFT_BRACKET
key 27 RIGHT_BRACKET
key 28 ENTER
##key 29
key 30 A
key 31 S
key 32 D
key 33 F
key 34 G
key 35 H
key 36 J
key 37 K
key 38 L
key 39 SEMICOLON
key 40 APOSTROPHE
##key 41 B
key 42 SHIFT_LEFT
key 43 BACKSLASH
key 44 Z
key 45 X
key 46 C
key 47 V
key 48 B
key 49 N
key 50 M
key 51 COMMA
key 52 PERIOD
key 53 SLASH
key 54 SHIFT_RIGHT
##key 55
##key 56
# SPACE (keyboard)
key 57 SPACE
# ???
##key 58
##key 59
##key 60
##key 61
##key 62
##key 63
##key 64
##key 65
##key 66
##key 67
##key 68
##key 69
##key 70
##key 71
##key 72
##key 73
##key 74
##key 75
##key 76
##key 77
##key 78
##key 79
##key 80
##key 81
##key 82
##key 83
##key 84
##key 85
##key 86
##key 87
##key 88
##key 89
##key 90
##key 91
##key 92
##key 93
##key 94
##key 95
##key 96
##key 97
##key 98
##key 99
##key 100
##key 101
# WWW key
key 102 VOLUME_DOWN
key 103 DPAD_UP WAKE_DROPPED
# page up (fn+up) - how to define??
#key 104 PGUP
key 105 DPAD_LEFT WAKE_DROPPED
key 106 DPAD_RIGHT WAKE_DROPPED
# end call
key 107 ENDCALL WAKE_DROPPED
key 108 DPAD_DOWN WAKE_DROPPED
# page down (dn+down) - how to define??
#key 109 PGDN
##key 110
# DEL on keyboard (fn+backspace)
key 111 DEL
##key 112 2
##key 113 5
# left soft
key 114 MENU
# right soft
key 115 MENU
##key 116
key 117 A
key 118 B
key 119 C
key 120 D
key 121 E
key 122 F
key 123 G
key 124 H
key 125 I
key 126 J
##key 127
key 128 K
key 129 L
key 130 M
key 131 N
key 132 O
key 133 P
key 134 Q
key 135 R
key 136 S
key 137 T
key 138 U
# Win-Key (front)
key 139 HOME WAKE_DROPPED
key 140 V
key 141 W
key 142 X
key 143 Y
key 144 Z
##key 150
# envelope (Mail) key
key 155 VOLUME_UP
# (ok) key on front
key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
##key 212 L
##key 215 M
##key 217 N
##key 227 O
##key 228 P
##key 229
##key 230
# make call
key 231 CALL WAKE_DROPPED
# (ok) key top left + on keyboard, DPAD center
key 232 DPAD_CENTER WAKE
##key 399 R
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
I do not know if I understood everything right.

On the google_code site I have found the Bundle: android-1.5-2009-08-06.zip

The description said: Bundle with all the latest updates (rootfs, swap, RIL, kaiser wifi, su fix)

So, when I extracted all files in the root of my SDcard and ran Haret I come to the set-up process of Android. When I have done all of that, I went to Menu-Settings-Wireless controls-Wi-Fi.

When I clicked Wi-Fi it said: unable to start Wi-Fi

What am I doing wrong? In an earlier stage I had to do something with getrom. Has this been done for now also?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
I was about to ask the same question-Vilord, whats the steps to take on the lastest build to get wifi up and running?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BlackBull:
http://www.androidonhtc.com/boot_options
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mikulec:
Thanks, so which valeu should I change? pm.sleep_mode? And what value?

EDIT: Ok, I saw the troubleshooting, I read it twice before asking but didnt see that. Thanks again.

EDIT2: Can somebody with Kaiser post his default.txt file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
here u go ...