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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
At the moment, asj's server is down with harddrive failure, and aximilation was just mirroring his builds (although I'm not sure if that ever happened before the hard drive failure happened). So currently, there are no automated nightly builds. Your current options are building from git or using an image dzo pushes out. On the experimental section, I cobbled together a "newer" build from an initrd.gz seidler2547 posted and an updated kernel from dzo. You can also find seidler2547's battery meter build under that section if you want to test that out.

You're posting on it. ;) But no, currently there is no bug tracking system. If you know of a good lightweight bug tracking system, let me know, and if there's enough interest I could host it on the Android on HTC wiki. There have also been a variety of attempts to convince the mods to add an Android forum, but there has been no action on that front.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lanwin:
@seidler2547: can you look what changed here? DZO means that he only applied a user patch which enabled the 3G icon.

The pin is a problem for me. I can not disable it and my provider dosnt want to send me a new sim.

So i think, here are less question about it when all are able to enter the sim pin in android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Thanks for answer, milas. I'm aware of androidonhtc wiki and I've tried battery feature. As long as it's done the way Stefan suggested battery meter shows seemingly correct data and I haven't noticed any anomalies in that particular version.

Lightweight bugtracking system, eh... Not yet, I'm not new to programming overall, but n00b to as complex projects as OS :D I'll be looking out though and if I stumble upon something I find interesting I'll let you know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
I made a poll where I also explain that a bugtracking system already exists (just no-one uses it...)

-----> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=495335

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
I'd like to get the latest code for the git repo.

I noticed you're using some google tool to get the sources, but I'd prefer to use the original git app.

What address do I need to use in the 'git clone' command?

The addresses I could find on the 'Get involved' page are all official android ones, not this one.

And the linuxtogo page is just unreachable, so I can't check there either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Look here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BuildTheKaiserKernel

This should probably be in the first post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
:) Thank you guys for giving a look on the bluetooth thing. If it's not supported in sdk, then it will be difficult to enable it.

btw, what's the reason of use the sdk instead the G1 version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
Ah thank you, exactly what I was looking for.

I used the git clone command like 2,5 hours ago and it's still not finished, but I'll happily wait. I just calculated, this is going to take me at least 5 hours at this speed to download everything (10-40 kb/s).

What about something faster than linuxtogo :p?

Or a maybe a mirror? (of the repo, not the builds)

EDIT2:

Got it.

I assume future updates would be a lot smaller so then speed won't matter so much.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
I'm downloading too (since 16.30 hr) but, unfortunately, it goes very slowly at the moment. I noticed for a long time that linuxtogo is very slowly and doesn't respond very well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] harbringer:
Hi all,

Little question, i didn't find answer about this subject in the 400+ pages of this thread :)

The first time i tested android on kaiser i downloaded the 17/02/09 version.

I could turn it in french :) and the screen orientation was good.

but no gmail, no data connection with my french provider..

The last i downloaded was the 12/03/09. Great i can connect internet and sync gmail etc ...

but no localisation and screen is bad oriented.

Is it possible to patch the last version to fix again the screen problem and apply modification to change the locale ?

and how ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anaethelion:
The version you're referring to is in fact cupcake, android 1.5, the latest builds are, most of the time, packaged with android 1.1 from G1 sdk.

However, on dzo's page, you can find latest kernel and two packages, one with android 1.1, giving sync, gmail, market, and stuffs ; the other with cupcake, some instabilities, but french locale, some things here and there and onscreen keyboard.

Hope you'll find this usefull.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] harbringer:
Many thanks, now i understand ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
I build a kernel from the git repo now, and it works :).

However, I still got the annoying reconnection bug that makes android completely unusable for me.

When android boots, it tells me that I lost data connectivity, and I have 2 options, "Turn it on" or "Ok". I do _not_ want it on, so I press ok.

Then I see that the R icon in the tray changes to an X, without reception, and then again I get the annoying message. After clicking Ok the R reappears.

I get this every few seconds, and it makes android really unusable for me, as I have to press Ok everytime.

I checked the changes in git but I cannot find any changes in the last few days to ppp or other connections.

Could anyone point me to what was changed that created this bug? So I can revert it? Or maybe someone has a fix?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
okay... the newest kernel (built from git this morning) will not boot when it's not charging (or when it's not plugged into the computer - can't check the AC charger, as mine's wire died)

I'll try to hunt down the culprit, but is anyone else experiencing this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
Happens on nike too, you need to have usb plugged in at the moment of boot so the kernel can reset it. AC charger won't work (already tried), not a big deal to me since I'm always near the computer when booting ;)

Anyway, maybe someone commented out (didn't see it though), but just passed by the sapphire forums and saw the sapphire system folder has been dumped. It's missing some things, like the xbin.cramfs wich is on the g1, system/etc doesn't have hcid.conf for, but there's an alternate firmware file for the brf bluetooth, wlan module, and some things more that may come handy: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494533

I haven't looked deeply into it, but I think it's worth a try

Regards!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
Thats great news mate, may finally get wifi which I crave for on the Polaris.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
This may be a first step to get a mixed version with some other features working... I pray for it... :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Could be with the USB code dzo was forced to check in. Strangely, I did not have any problems...

I'll try to set up nightly builds on my VServer, we'll see how that goes.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Ok, I set up the build system, you can find the 10 most recent versions (according to commits, checked hourly) on http://gigatron.de/.android/builds

I have tested 3 builds, so those that are there right now are all the same, checked out from htc-vogue.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Hey guys, esp. developers,

if you don't object, I would like to rename the kaiser source files to be consistent with the rest of the bunch to board-htckaiser-xxx instead of board-kaiser-xxx.

If you think that's not a good idea, let me know.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
I was trying some things last night, and i have a question:

Why do you think is not possible to set resolution to 640x480?

When i set it, screen has glitches, but all movements are absolutely smooth (more than in lower resolutions). I use my kaiser to log in an RDP server, and it would be amazing to work with that resolution. :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vj4:
so like i sed. dont think im angry or anything im just dyslecsix and dont use punchuation coz im not very good at english. i have a lot of problems lol just ignor me if u want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sev7en:
What thread! I ordered yesterday my Kaiser and when at home I will give to this project a try for sure!

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] echofloripa:
hard-reset

Hi

After the last updates android wasn't starting anymore. Then I tried a haret 1.47, from 06/2007, by mistake :) it worked, and everytime. But amgstron booted once, and then froze, i tried 3 times more.

Today when I tried to open the start menu on WM it showed only one option, "init", or something like that.

After this i tried to soft reset 2 times, until I got a message at the boot saying that the system was damaged and that I should do a hard-reset. After the hard reset it is behaving normally, but I'm wondering if booting with amgstron could screw in someway with the windowmobile configuration...

EDIT: after the soft reset, just tried again, and even with the latest version of haret (that stopped work a while ago), now is working with amgstron image.

Now i need to know one thing... : how do I get the letters bigger at the mobile screen? It's a bit of guess work to read something :)

regards

emerson
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Is the touchscreen supposed to be fixed?

I tried the new Z on the site and the alignment is still effed up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] echofloripa:
also, how do I type an "esc" in the angstrom console? i got stuck inside vi!!!! :)

I couldn't find a manual on how to configure angstron, is there any?

thanks

emerson
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
globe?

hey guys, i've been trying to find the globe or the globe that u can spin in teh api demos.

I cant seem to find it- i am currently running the zimage from 3-06-08.

I looked around a bit and i found this http://android-developers.blogspot.c...lobaltime.html

global time open source android app, which seems like it could be pretty cool.

basically i just want **** to show to my drinkin buddies- lol-

i know its lame, but if anyone knows whats up, or where i should look for the globe, holler at me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ib3x:
where can i find the globe image test app? i can't find it in adroid
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
no. I will mention every driver improvement either directly in the thread or in README.txt

http://angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom

put htckaiser as machine type. esc is a good idea :) we should map it somewhere. maybe voice dial btn

such things are not realized in kernel (zImage) but in userland. in the main menu, scroll up and click android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] moegdaog:
So is this a rom or what is it supposed to be exactly could somebody gimme the rounddown..from the screen shots it loks like a very simple OS...like palms or something. Does anyone have further rom pictures and thumbnails of the settings screenshots and other screenshots of the OS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
More Screenshots: http://pics.roffnoppe.de/android-m5/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stemilano:
Activesync? MSN?

Will google android let me use activesync? And msn?

Thanks

Stefano
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
phone works!!!!!!!!!!!1111one

hey.

grab the latest zImage haret initrd-android default.txt

copy it to a new folder on kaiser, make sure phone is on, run haret.exe, click run.

Now call your kaiser from a different phone. It rings two times before the incoming call screen shows up here. Then pick up and please report if it works. Don't panic if it doesn't. It looks like it depends on the radio rom verison if it does.

Thanks for testing
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Well with my ROM + Radio it did not work :(

Antenna is showing 1. And GPRS is showing. But no connectivity.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
I have an 1.6* radio. It would be nice if all testers would provide their radio rom version too
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD

aaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! DOWNLOADING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] forza:
Running L26 Diamond V8 with radio 1.58.25.17 - IT WORKS!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
What ROM radio you have?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] forza:
Also get one signal bar and a 'G' showing in the title bar, but incoming call did work (didn't ring or anything) and had two way audio. No network connectivity (data).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
After howe many peeps did Android show you, that tour'e having a incomning call?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
This doesn't work because we only allocate 1M of memory for the frame buffer. If you change QVGAOFFSET in msm_fb.h and MSM_FB_BASE in board-htckaiser.c to 0x00180000 and 0x00500000 then it should work (though this uses the adsp memory and youtube will probably not work properly).

Is 640x480 really usable though?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
For me, absolutely yes. :)

Could anyone commit the changes said by dzo in an experimental kernel for me? please... You'll get a free beer here in spain... :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
I tried, but there was still corruption. Do we need to set MSM_FB_SIZE as well? Can we not just allocate normal memory for this?

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
When I boot into 640x480, the display does look pretty 'nice', but dzo is right, the small display size crams too much into such a small space.

Personally, 336x448 is a good compromise.

I'd still like to try it out, just to see how bad/good it is. Unfortunately, none of my computers will do development. Did anyone ever post a Windows development setup? I know few people asked a while back, but were basically told to boot up a linux box and be done with it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
Well for the git part, you can use msysgit on windows.

But that would still not help you with compiling.

I think compiling (and probably git) can be done through cygwin, but I have no experiences with that.

Try downloading the free vmware player, then download vmware image of a linux, and there you go: linux under windows.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
I was going to sayL in times of VirtualBox et al., who needs porting ;) No, really, I'm on Linux but I still have to use VirtualBox for some Windows progs. So I would also recommend you to do the other way around. Grab a ubuntu CD image and off you go...

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
What version of Android are all of you using?

I used to be running v1.1 up to now, and now I've put v1.5 (cupcake) and am looking at testing it out.

Any thoughts from others that have tried both?

UPDATE:

In v1.5, one issue I'm having is the screen rotates the opposite way when I open the keyboard. I don't see any options to set in the default.txt file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] joel2009:
The screen open the opposite way but then corrects its self and flips again for me.... Is it not correcting itself for you?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Actually, I like 340x452 because it's almost exactly 2 virtual pixel per 1 hardware pixel ;)

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
umm... do some math.

QVGA = kaiser... 320x240

HVGA = QVGA doubled in one direction, or 2 QVGA pixels per 1 HVGA pixel. 320x480

VGA = 640x480, QVGA doubled in both directions, or 4 QVGA pixels per 1 VGA pixel, 2 HVGA pixels per VGA pixel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
That was the behavior in v1.1 but in v1.5(cupcake) it does not correct itself to the right orientation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kiram9:
Quick howto to build a system.img

I was looking to build a system image with some reconfigured apps.... and I cant find much useful info on how to do this... anyone have a howto?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Ok, you got me thinking for a second there.

Let's look at the aspect ratios:

QVGA -> 4:3

HVGA -> 3:2 (!!!)

VGA -> 4:3

So "my" resolution provides (almost) the same number of pixels as HVGA, but with 4:3 aspect ratio.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
@biktor_gj: It sounded as if you had the "switch bluetooth on/off" code working, can you at least check that in? Or do you think it's in a state where is would be more harmful than good?

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
Actually I have a little problem. Lukas sent me an email telling that people are having problems with the kernel since one of my last commits and I'm trying to find out if it's something I messed up, if it's something from proc_comm_wince or if it's something else.. are you guys having problems with booting, or calling, or something else apart from the usb thing? Seems like polaris kernels don't work anymore, but they do work on my nike (as they always did)

About the bluetooth, it isn't finished. I have disabled the tx and rx pin configuration, and bluetooth routing isn't working or coded yet. So it sometimes do something depending on where was winmo, but not working yet, so I better wait before breaking up something else..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I see there are lot of new commits in the git repo. Nice work. They mostly look fine but there is a change to pm.c that tries to enter power collapse in the idle loop. I'm pretty sure this will break vogue badly, what's it there for?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
Can someone explain to me what the different files are that need to be present in the same folder as haret?

I figured that zImage is the kernal file, but what is the data.img and system.img file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
What does the phrase 'almost exactly' mean?

452/340 = 1.32941176470....

448/336 = 1.33333333333....

4/3 = 1.33333333333....

452x340 is not a good resolution, it isn't on an 8bit boundary in either direction, and it isn't scaled to the correct proportion. I expect you will see funny things with your text as it won't scale properly.

If you check a few pages back, I posted a bunch of 'proper' screen resolutions. Most users, including myself, use 448x336 because it scales perfectly to the hardware AND the software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
The maths say it's only 80 pixel more - the closest you can get.

The proportion difference is really negligible. (Consider that some people proposed 3:2!!). And it does scale correctly and looks good here. Although I agree that from a technical point of view, 448/336 is much nicer. I just thought 1.4142 is a nice number ;)

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
I posted an explanation in the FAQ of androidonhtc.com.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Okay, so can someone explain to me, in more detail than the Wiki does, what to put for my kernel in the default.txt file? Like where is my kernel located, what is the file type of a kernel, and do I need to whole file path (i.e. My Device\...\kernel.filetype)?

Oh, and I apologize in advance. I'm obviously a n00b and have never used Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
The install page on the wiki is pretty detailed, in case you were just skimming the FAQ. Either way, the kernel is located wherever you put it (suggested is in the root of a Storage Card - meaning not in a folder). It is called zImage or zImage-kaiser depending on your build, and has no real file type/extension.

If you put it in the root, in your default.txt, there is a line that says "set KERNEL [something here]" and you should alter it so that it says "set KERNEL zImage" assuming that haret.exe and zImage are both together on the Storage Card not in any subfolders.

Also, if the .zip you downloaded had a default-kaiser.txt, you should use that (rename it to default.txt and put it on the root of the storage card with all the other files).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
System.img's & call functionality...

Hey guys, I've created a sort of "hybrid" package (read: taken files from various builds & booted Android) from the 02-23 & 03-12 packages. It works (calls, data, txt/mms, sync, etc.), but since I'm using the system.img from 02-23, my carrier name is still "Android", no G/E/3G changeover, etc. The only reason why I'm using the system.img from the 02-23 build is because that's the only one that lets me make phone calls; again, the bane of my Android existence. :(

What I don't understand, is why it is that some system.img's (like the one from the 02-23 build) allow the user to make & receive calls, while a system.img from a "newer" build (i.e. 03-12) do not. :confused: Now before everyone says "make sure you don't need a PIN/PIN2", "Uncheck 'Require PIN when phone is used' in WinMo", "Check the wiki", "Format your SD card", or "Use another phone to call yourself first", I've already done all of that, so that's off the table.

I'm starting to wonder if the changes that are being made to the various system.img's (if any) are inhibiting call functionality. What's the use of using Android for any length of time for any reason if you can't even make or receive a simple phone call? Maybe it's just me & my luck, because I'm sure others have used more recent builds and have success in making & receiving calls; I'm just trying to figure out why *I* can't.

Sorry for the long post. Just looking for some input.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Somehow, we need to figure out what is different between your phone, and ours (those that work). I have no problem making nor receiving calls.

I have an original (Augustish 2007) ATT TILT (8925). Running lots of different ROMs and running the 1.65.24.36 radio.

I've also been running the same default.txt since 2/24ish

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=none ppp.password=none pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=336 mddi.height=448 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

boot

I am an AT&T Subscriber in Cedar Rapids, IA, and I only pay for the MediaMax package for data/txt.