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[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Android is not Xiaomi's problem anymore. The only beta they had was for the MIUI version, not for the AOSP. Now... Android is fully sustained by Google and doesn't need OEM updates to fix bugs or add new security. Those features will now be delivered by Play Store. The only thing Xiaomi needs to do is to optimize the drivers for the device and maybe add some minor OEM mods to it.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] marstonpear:
True but not true. The new "play store updates" will only be available for the devices that come with Android 10 pre-installed. Which is not the case with Mi A2 Lite. Which means we'll still be getting ****ty updates from Xiaomeme.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] aasiaasi:
Dear TheoXSD,

Hope You Are Doing Great !

If I Am Not Mistaken Xiaomi Redmi K20 & Xiaomi Redmi K20 Pro Both Have MIUI Not Android One. Please Correct If I Am Wrong.

Thanks,

MUHAMMAD Asif Qasim
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Where did you get that information? What is the link between preinstalled and play-store updates? I don't think this is hardware based.

I won't correct you... Because I can't find a reliable source saying the version of OS installed on said devices. I presumed that if the 9T has already received Android 10 MIUI, it's counterpart the K20 Pro is running on Android One.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] IkkeZelf1000:
As far as I know, the only Android One phones from Xiaomi are the Mi A1, A2, A2 Lite and most recently the A3. All other Xiaomi phones run some flavour of MIUI.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] thorin0815:
All sites I've found say the Redmi K20 Pro uses MIUI 10.

For example: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_k20_pro-9708.php
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] marstonpear:
My dude can you even read lol. A simple google search will let you find all the answers you're looking for. Project mainline aka Play Store security updates will be available for devices that launched with android 10. And I am quite sure that K20 pro is not the Android one version of mi 9t or mi 9 lol. Please do some research before writing here.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Thank you for this, now I know who have no clue about what to read and what to read.

Project Mainline is mandatory for all devices that ship with Android 10, but Project Mainline is part of the Android 10 OS, which mean that OEMS can keep the service and turn device control to Google or keep it inhouse with standard updates.

All Pixel devices were updated to Android 10, and Project Mainline is available for all devices, devices which were updated.

That's why I asked for a source, I thought there was an announcement that said Xiaomi will not take part in Project mainline since none of their devices up to date came with Android 10 onboard.

Now before you want to write another frustrated reply... Check the sources Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite on GSM Arena: Android X/MIUI X, Xiaomi K20 pro on GSM Arena: Android X/MIUI X. I thought there are 2 versions, one with AOSP and one with MIUI.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] marstonpear:
:facepalm:
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Of course you're going to throw in a r/iamverrysmart type reply. You could've post an actual source from your good buddy Google, but instead what you do? You just add a pointless reply just to bump up your forum stats and act all smart. Just silently leave this thread if you are going to reply in the same manner that you reply to all other threads.

And again.

Project Mainline is a component of Android 10.

Project Mainline is mandatory for all Android 10 shipped device.

Project Mainline is a software component, hardware independent.

Project Mainline gives Google hardware access capabilities and can update certain hardware controllers.

Project Mainline can be turned off by OEMS, but not if the device shipped with Android 10.

Where did you get the idea that Play store updates are ONLY for phone shipping with Android 10?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] downloadonlyaccount:
This information can be found on quite a lot of articles about Project Mainline, including XDA: https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-project-mainline-security/

It's stated that older devices most likely won't get that function as manufacturers will have to do additional work to support Project Mainline by including an updated kernel (beside from what's necessary to get Android 10 running at all). And as you know, OEMs are quite lazy.

Source: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/apex/+/refs/heads/master/docs/README.md (#Kernel requirements)
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
So I was right. It's all about OEMS and not the fact that magically it won't just work on updated devices.

But think of it like this, you work once to fix your devices for a longer period of time without any other OEM work, or you continue OEM work for ~3 years.

Xiaomi only has a few AOSP devices and a lot of MIUI devices. Adding Mainline to MIUI would be suicide, but adding Mainline to AOSP devices would be a profit. A file and forget action. They wouldn't have to worry about fixing minor bugs when Google can do it for them instead, while the focus mainly on MIUI.

Think about this.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] kima09:
Do you think Xiaomi will give an extra effort to have Project Mainline on A2/Lite when they don't even include Camera Api2, AR Core or Widevine L1 DRM in the first place.

You see both Android One and MIUI version in GSMArena is because Xiaomi make phones of two different model with the exact same phone/hardware. One is Mi A2 (Android One)/Mi 6X (MIUI) and the other is Mi A2 Lite (Android One)/Redmi 6 Pro (MIUI). You need to do some research.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Yes. Mainline helps Xiaomi keep their work focused on MIUI and let Google handle the AOSP devices.

Why use Api2 when Xiaomi uses internal oem processing? They promote their own camera software instead of google's.

AR Core needs a special certification from Google to be factory added to the device. A2 Lite never passed that certification or was never sent to be certified.

You are the one who needs to do some research.

As for the GSM Arena that was the whole point... you didn't even read the replies. I know for the Mi A2 Lite there is a Redmi 6 Pro counterpart running on MIUI... That's why I thought that the K20Pro is running AOSP while the MI9T is running MIUI.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] marstonpear:
At this point I don't know if you're just being silly or just plain ignorant. Xiaomi doesnt give a damn about their androidone devices, that's why they don't enable cam2api and arcore on their androidone devicies, miui phones come with cam2api pre-enabled, so if they wanted to promote their cam software they'd definitely not enable it on miui devices. Also arcore can be used on this device, tested by myself, the hardware is capable, it's just xiomi being an ass to their androidone based users. Also androidone is based on aosp, but it's not aosp. And considering the fact that androidone devices usually don't get many features as the pixel's version of android gets with updates, you can make a wild fricking guess that we won't be getting most of those features that google mentioned while introduced with android 10. Stop being so stubborn and read some stuff. You trying to fight with people with no knowledge, is the same as an unarmed man trying to fight an army, pointless. :cool:
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Unfortunately, reading carefully what you said... I am, I am figting people with no knowledge.

By mistake, you wrote the truth. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, read again and interpret your comment.

Then, you might want to check what OEMS need to certify before enabling said subsystems. Cheers.

Also, just as a pointer. Please don't use impolite words to express your frustrations against Xiaomi.

While MIUI in internally produced and Xiaomi pays for intern developers to work on it, Android One is a service that is provided by Google to OEMS that costs money. Each and every function activated inside the core OS which is AOSP with minor adjustments by OEM. So to have Android One program, you need intern devs to work on updates AND pay the service fee. To reduce the costs you reduce the amount of pre-installed services. Did you pay 1000$ on this device? Or did you pay ~200$.

Also, by reading most of your comments, you are just a frustrated user, with a mid-range device, that refuses to understand how money, licenses and certifications work.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] marstonpear:
Regardless of the price of a device, everyone has the right to expect the promises to be fulfilled. It's good that you could understand my frustration against Xiaomeme, this means we're getting somewhere :D. Xiaomi didn't bring anything Android One offers to the table. We almost never got a timely security update, let alone a timely OS update. I am frustrated with Xiaomi, but I'm also frustrated with you trying to somehow defend Xiaomi lol. I've bought cheaper devices that didn't offer monthly updates or anything, but they've worked properly. Somehow the asshat Xiaomi manages to break something with every damn update and they never fix a thing. I am not expecting you to understand these stuff, if you have thousands of dollars in your pockets, but some people can't afford 1000$ phones, get over it. And people who don't pay a thousand dollars for a phone, also have the right to complain. And if you have a phone that costs a thousand dollars, please go to the relating forum and go-on your false info spreading over there. :)
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Now you are just filling my Android 10 thread with non-sense and off-topic.

First of all Xiaomi fulfilled all the promises of this device.

Cheap device with mid-spec performance - Check

Good camera provided by Sony - Check

Good sound coming from the speaker - Check

Extremely good sound from a 3.5mm jack - Check

Great battery life - Check

Android - Check

Where did they say that you'll have Netflix support? Where did they say that your phone supports from factory Augmented Reality? Where did they say you get Google Camera support?

No, they said that you get a great phone, for a good price with minor inconveniences.

Also, this phone doesn't get full Android One features? Well yes, yes it does. Android one program only offers 3 year security updates and 2 year feature updates. Which translates to: you get 2 major Android updates (features) and monthly security updates. Also, you get a bloatware free OS... if you don't consider the whole Google suite bloatware. That's it.

Somehow Xiaomi manages to break the device with every update? Wrong. The only REAL bug I experienced until now on my fully stock device is on July update with that screen rotation bug. Everything else works as expected.

Each update doesn't fix anything? Wrong. When a real bug is found it's submitted through mi.com to Xiaomi and it gets fixed the next month, just like July did.

Every user here who experienced problems (except SD-Card) with the OS messed with it somehow, in some way or form. So it's YOUR fault, not Xiaomi's.

Also don't bring up the "some people can't afford 1000$ phones", yeah those people need to understand that if they can't afford a 1000$ phone they don't need to have 1000$ expectations. You don't buy a cheap car and expect it to do what a Lamborghini does. Also, I own this device, which means I just need a phone that works, looks good and works whenever I need it. I don't need ultra-premium features. So I understood the capabilities of this device and respect what it can do, for the money I paid for it.

Yes, you also have the right to complain, but not on a thread that is expecting Android 10 news, updates and speculations, just because you can't afford something else that would shut you up, so please, take your frustration somewhere else, and comeback when you are ready to have a nice, respectful and creative talk about the new OS Google brought to the table and Xiaomi is cooking right now for us.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
New information about Android 10 update for Mi A2 Lite from customer support.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] downloadonlyaccount:
4/10 this is just a bot that answers whatever you want it to

6/10 it it is someone that has absolutely no clue about Xiaomis update plans at all and just says something to satisfy whoever dares to contact them

stop dreaming, we'll only get the minumum updates, no more no less
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Then, have you got any information against this? Xiaomi support is the closest thing to official news we have to this day, even if the dates are speculations.

But while people try to find out more about this subject all you do, you and the other one just scream FAKE FAKE FAKE all around.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Baron60:
My brother has the OnePlus 7 pro and has the play store security patch updates. Wanna explain that one?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Just let them go man, they think Xiaomi is the worst company, a company that create products against their clients and who probably want to watch the world burn. Just because they didn't get certain functions/features in Pie they like to fill every thread with negativity and frustration.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Baron60:
Right.. strange how people function.. people want to moan about nothing. ?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
People never ever understand irony.

Doesn't matter what flavor the OS is Project Mainline is a part of Android 10, and just a kernel is needed. No one cares if it's Oxygen, MIUI, AOSP, Xperia, etc.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] oka1:
From the Moderator oka1

All,

If you cannot converse maturely, then do not converse (post) in this thread.

If you cannot be respectful then, DO NOT POST.

Do not make the moderators come in here again to clean up such diatribe.

~~~ oka1
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] kostovdean:
No Android 10 just received October update with Android 9.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] AnonymousAL:
Never read a thread with this much of no knowledge about something and to keep going like crazy with their ideas!

Every video about android 10 says that phones not ship with android 10 wont have support! Don't be silly like you know everything, a simple video watching will give you all the information!

P.s I love xiaomi so don't say that i am a frustrated user. That's how it is!
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
-Videos on the internet are absolute truth.

-Speculations made by users on a forum are crap.

Just think about what you wrote, and question your knowledge.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Nico100g:
A bit older but an interesting interview. You can learn a lot, also applies to project Mainline (second page).

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/android-qa-android-engineers-take-us-on-a-deep-dive-of-android-q/
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] davis the droid:
Got this update to appear, and it's big in size! However it cannot be installed at this time. Notification also shows an update installation failure.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] loop4444:
looks like security patch, but why that big? hmmm
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] nikoman1987:
because he is using custom rom , don't make stock updates on custom rom , it will cause a bootloop , or it will give error

---------- Post added at 04:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:33 PM ----------

It's just a security update,and it's 1 gigabyte ,because you are using custom rom ,don't try to update ,it won't work or it will cause a bootloop .Maybe in January we'll see some buggy beta , until then I don't believe that we'll see stock Q , developers are working on stable Q tree and we are waiting to release the sources for developing a custom rom , but they need time , I'm pretty sure , that we'll see stable custom Android 10 before the official update , Xiaomi are focused on MIUI , and they are not in a hurry for Android one. I hope that my answer will give you some light over the situation.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] davis the droid:
Nope, I'm 100% stock. No root, no custom ROM at all. Hence my confusion as to why it's so big in size. I am running September's Security patch as well.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] nikoman1987:
Do you use custom kernel ? If you are using firmware version 10.0.14 ,the update has to be about 69 mb. It's not an Android upgrade , only security and bug fixes. You can try to re-download the update and install it ,if the problem still persists , i recommend you to flash stock firmware via MiFlash , but before that , make a backup of your personal data.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] davis the droid:
Nope, no custom kernels. It seems to allow me to download the update now, however I've paused for the time being it since it's only a security update. I still have no idea why it's so big...
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
You're not the only one who get big updates, on the MI forums there are a lot of people getting large updates from time to time without a real explanation, sometimes even entire regions get the full pack. Maybe the updater doesn't like some check-ups found in your phone, and he decides it must rewrite all. If you are full stock and locked, try again, maybe it will work eventually.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] perfect_:
How can i force the updater for rewrite all rom?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Take what I say as a joke and don't actually do it.

Just mess up your sistem, attempt a root injection that fails and messes with the internal file checksum verification. That way maybe the updater will decide that your rom needs to be rebuilt and will download the full image.

Now talking real here. If you only get the small updates it means that the rest of the files are in perfect running order and doesn't need to be replaced. Let it be.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] nikoman1987:
You can't , if you want to rewrite the whole firmware , you'll need to do it with MiFlash tool via PC , when you open to program , on the bottom right corner , you'll see 3 different options , choose the option :keep user data , on your phone: disable security (fingerprint , PIN , face lock) ,reboot to fastboot and flash the firmware
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Baron60:
I think the size is a glitch. Or it's xiaomi preparing Android 10 like they did with Android pie
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] perfect_:
Any news for Android 10 update?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
While last month there were a ton of speculations and chats with support and all that stuff, it has fallen to silence for the moment. Even MI A3 has fallen to silence.

The only new speculation now is that some of the devices received the October update as a big file ~1gb which could mean that Xiaomi is patching problems in actual firmwares (like corrupted files, faulty modules, etc) for the upcoming 10 update, so it would be a smooth sailing. But that is also a speculation.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Baron60:
They didn't disable the fingerprint sensor. They disabled the second face unlock feature that the phone had. I believe they have deleted the face unlock feature that is in "smart lock" that is called trusted face
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] nikoman1987:
yes ,because smart lock face unlock is removed by google from Android 10 too ,it is not that secured
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Not owning the device makes things a little more difficult to understand. Reading that thread also mentioned that fingerprint stopped working... So I presumed that Xiaomi disabled the fingerprint... not that it was a bug for some users. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] celrau:
I don't see the point of your lengthy comment, Android 10 is just a software/system upgrade, the hardware for daisy didn't change so there is no mystery about the kernel or drivers, they are the same as before.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
It's a new OS. Why didn't Vista support XP drivers? There are new API's and most of the drivers for our device must be optimized for Android 10, the hardware didn't change, the system did. And in that lengthy comment I explained that. The Pixel 3a is rocking the same SoC as we do, and they are facing a lot of problems because poorly optimized drivers for Android 10.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] celrau:
Well, your analogy with Vista and XP is illuminating. Can you provide some documentation for "poorly optimized drivers for Android 10"?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
Android 8 runs kernel version: 3.18.70 4.4.88 4.9.56 API level 26/27

Android 9 runs kernel version: 4.4.146 4.9.118 4.14.61 API level 28

Android 10 runs kernel version: 4.9.191 4.14.142 4.19.71 API level 29

And if you're still in doubt and cannot google and correct me if I'm wrong... Ask a dev what's the problem with Android versions and driver versions.

https://xdaforums.com/mi-mix/development/driver-adreno-530-540-gpu-driver-t3815853 and you could find many more examples like this if you'd understand the Vista/XP compatibility issues with drivers.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] marstonpear:
My dude, why are you so hostile about everything, lol. Also the Pixel 3a has a different SOC than what we've got haha. I wish we had 670 as well but no. I understand your frustration but being aggressive is not helping anybody, right?
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Baron60:
Hmmmm you sure you have the same CPU? Lol
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] thorin0815:
I heavily doubt that we will ever see a 4.xx kernel from Xiaomi on our SD625 based phone.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] :
I saw the pre-launch leaks, and they were claiming that 3A had the 625 SoC. While writing this, all the posts about A10 on 3A were related to the same screenshots, stating that 3A is running on the same SoC as Mi A2 Lite.

Also, don't need to worry. Won't even bother anymore. Asked the mods to close/delete this thread. Won't bother any of you with my nonsense. Have a great day.
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Lupin The Third:
Thread closed at OP's request.

Your Friendly Moderator,

Lupin The Third
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] mrpickem:
I acquired an AT&T GN10+ off swappa brand new in sealed box. Device works great, using it on AT&T prepaid but I also have a line on Verizon and would like to be able to use it there as well. I tried to apply for an unlock on AT&T site and they said there was no such IMEI is their database (pic attached). I also tried 3 separate unlock sites with similar results. I'm guessing new devices may take a little while before they appear in DB. Does anyone know if this is the case and maybe how long it take?

Also they offer unlocks on eBay where they remote into your device through team viewer in windows and do a permanent unlock. How do they actually accomplish this, I have heard they modify the modem s/w? Is it safe? Does anyone know? Way back when, I once had an GN4 unlocked remotely and if worked fine. Here's the eBay link I was maybey considering.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] laxanoulis1:
Is there any aftermarket kit for telephoto lens or something like that for Poco F1?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] TekHck:
there's lots of telephoto lens you can find in AliExpress with x6,x10,x12 zoom and those lens are universal fits in every device
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] laxanoulis1:
I'll search on AliExpress. Thanks!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Accessories] mobilbaycan:
Do not use lens

I definitely don't recommend using a lens my phone has a focus problem no longer focusing All the methods and resets, although I tried the focus feature does not work