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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] BLEK0TA:
my averarege sot is around 5-5,5 hrs.. no more no less im on wqhd+ display settings and i can see big diference in YouTube videos in 1080p vs 1440p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] philipgonzales3:
I have read 5G uses a lot of battery compared to 4G. I have disabled 5G and will only use it when I need better coverage.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] tracerit:
SOT also matters with your carrier and bands. I got my Note 10+ with Verizon and averaged about 5 hours SOT while working. I work 1st floor of a 4 story building. I then ported to TMobile and now my phone is only getting an a verage of 4 hours SOT.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] psykoly:
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] j_hansen:
I still average 10+ hours of SoT.

Generally 10% battery is equal to the phone being on for two hours with one hour SoT in that time.

I don't live in a warm and sunny climate though so my screen is probably only 40% brightness and the phone doesn't get very hot.

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I still average 10+ hours of SoT.

Generally 10% battery is equal to the phone being on for two hours with one hour SoT in that time.

I don't live in a warm and sunny climate though so my screen is probably only 40% brightness and the phone doesn't get very hot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] arshia.sunboy:
Where is screen on time in battery section,?

Im in oneui2.1 and no screen on time data in battery usage
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] winol:
The battery info sadly, became somewhat worthless on android 10, I use gsam battery just to have the SOT value available, I did not gave it the ADB Permissions though, as some posted that by doing so, a memory leak was triggered
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] robalm:
I call bull**** on this one.

Show screenshot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] pro4ever:
I installed mine gsam battery and the sot level is way off . 85% battery 2hr 45 min sot no way its done that:p
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] marselcj:
Set Gsam to show you statistics from last full charge. By default is set to other parameter so there is the confusion.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Sukrus:
Good
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Makonator:
after 2.5 ui update easy 7h SOT, optimised bat. exynos...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] ssgunner20:
Checking in after some time. Earlier this week easily got over 6 1/2 hrs of SOT. Display at the highest setting. Plenty of internet browsing, vid playback, gaming.

I've considering an iPhone 12 pro max but very disapointed in their battery output especially compared to the 11 pro max. I read in some of the iphone forums that folks get about 12 hrs of use, not sot.

Well I easily get an all day use on the note 10+, over 16hrs of use. I think I'll keep mine instead of switching to apple.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Never was a Mac or Apple fan. You never got much memory for your buck.

I have a terabyte of memory on the 10+ with 500 gb of that on a fast SD card for an additional $75. Still can expand even more if I wish too. The 512 gb variant was a couple hundred dollars cheaper than it's Apple counterpart at time of purchase to boot.

Plus I want the options to customize my bloody gooey interface; not a plain jane apple:cool:

SOT is good; I get 3+ hours of heavy usage for a 20-35% charge. Generally fast charge for 10-15 minutes about 3 times a day. By staying roughly in the 40-70% charge range I put minimal strain on the battery and extend it's life by hundreds of full charge cycles. Rarely charge past 85% or dip below 20%.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Limeybastard:
Good tip last paragraph. ??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Shreyu:
But fast charging does more damage to the battery, isnt it? I could be wrong, but this is what I have understood.. Would appreciate any clarifications..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
I've put at least 200* charge cycles on my 10+ by fast charging. I monitor the battery and can't detect a decline

but

I'm doing partial charges which is much less stressful for the battery.

Newer Li's are designed to fast charge; remember Li's like frequent midrange partial charges, longevity wise they don't like full charges.

At about 80-90% the power controller in the phone stops fast charging and then ramps down into a slower charging mode.

The controllers ramps the charge rate up or down depending on battery voltage/temperature to give the optimum charge rate while not exceeding the battery safe operating limits.

Whenever possible I use the 25 watt fast charger.

•Don't charge past 80% normally and only very rarely charge to 100%

•Don't do deep discharges (40-64% is ideal) discharging lower than 30% puts a added strain on the battery.

•Don't drive the battery temp up above about 99 F when charging or charge below 80 F (battery warms pretty fast). Never start charging if battery is below freezing; warm it up before starting charge.

Cold charging causes Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.

•Don't allow excessive current usage when phone is running ie hot phone syndrome. Find the excessive current drain and stop it. In hot climates use a damp rag and/or air flow to cool the phone while using and charging.

¤Heat and high cell voltage are what kills Li's!

*my phone shows 351 charge cycles. Have had it over a year now and use it 6 to 10+ hours a day.

A charge cycle is from 6-100% ie a full charge cycle which is the standard.

Lol, the 10+ falsely reports partial charges as a full charge cycle many times. Not sure if the phone resets that count after a reload(?) as I only recently was able to access that hidden info. If so then almost all of those 351 "cycles" were fast charges.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] kswong6972:
How do you access the hidden menu and check charge cycle stats?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
I use the app DevChek. Cool app.

The phone battery cycle count however isn't accurate.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Limeybastard:
Phone NFO also shows cycle count.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] orvvan:
Where does the battery cycle calculation appear in an application DevChek ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
In the battery section information directly below voltage.

I'm still running on Pie... not sure if Q screws with that.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
I don't see screen on time icon which will show me time in Android 11.

Where is at?

I don't get that info on my phone?Probably I need to root it,right?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
Is it so bad?

Purchased used phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Pie is better OS in my opinion. No way, no how will I allow Q to flash.

It's bad enough that if I had to replace my 10+ it be with another one running on Pie.

To see the battery charge count you don't need to be rooted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
Not getting charge cycles display info at all,only temp,health,voltage,capacity...

Why is that?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
any other software to check health/wear level/cycle counts?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
If you're using Android 10 or 11 that's the reason.

Make sure you granted all needed permissions.

If it's accurate... Judge by what your SOT is like.

Best to replace spent Li's; as they age a failure becomes more likely.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
Don't think it's accurate,tried same software on S5e tablet,only 12 discharge cycles and reporting health of 10.1 %...this is dodgy software.

Tablet is purchased brand new 3 months ago.

What needed permissions,how do I enable that?

It doesn't show nor info nor tabs in software.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
I can't believe that none of the 3 software is giving any info about battery devcheck,accubattery,phone info.

I allowed all permissions under app settings for all 3 apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
You might be able to do an adb edit to enable those enhanced privileges. Some of the app sites tell how.

I barely scrape by with the Pie based restrictions...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
what is adb and how to do that?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
I've some 3rd party battery management apps give instructions how to do for their app to enhance its privileges. Off hand don't recall which ones.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
So 5h 30 min of SOT is pretty bad,with all power savings turned on?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
For a Note 10+ it is. For me I get better results with all power management disabled and then dealing with individual apps that are hogging the battery on a case by case basis.

Screen brightness will quickly drain the battery if near 100%. I try to stay below 50% and use manual brightness adjustment.

It's usually not just one app or practice but a combination of them that add up to be a current sucking vampire🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
How can I extend battery life?

I won't compare to your phone,yours is maybe younger then mine, there is no point comparing,maybe this phone is almost 2y old.no wonder such battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Disable all power management then determine which apps are using too much battery.

Take out the trash social apps like FB, twatter, whatsapp etc.

Deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it.

This app is useful:

Package Disabler

The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.

www.packagedisabler.com

Also Karma Firewall and Galaxy Store Battery Tracker.

Accubattery to log charging/discharge history.

Try disabling Google Play Services manually*, it can use a lot of battery. PD doesn't include it or Framework anymore. Disable Google Transport as well.

Use Device Care to clear system cache daily or as needed. If my battery usage exceeds 10%@ hr SOT or 1%@hr screen off, I go looking for the cause.

See what works best for you... play with it.

You learn Android by playing with it.

Android is almost impossible to crash but always backup** all critical data and be ready to reload** at any time to avoid getting boned.

*if it's grayed out it's set as a system Administrator as Find my device, disable it.

**do this first. It takes time and planning but is well worth as you will eventually need it.

If you have an SD card slot, use it! Use the SD card as a data drive, all critical data, vids music, backups for all apps etc go here; only the OS, apps and downloads go on the internal memory.

OS drive/data drive(s) is best way to set up a computer, isolate critical data from the OS drive.

Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apks and system updates so you can load directly from the data drive, Playstore not needed for a reload.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
So I took out sim card and I did every possible way to preserve battery health and capacity.

I did some 1080p yt watching videos (80% of time) some light browsing and from 98 % to now 53 % my total SOT is around 273 minutes with screen brightness to 50%,enabled power saving and 2280x1080 rez with black theme,disabled swipe gestures and other settings to preserve battery as much as I can.I also did take some pics yesterday (like 30 of them).

I guess not bad at all.

Wil report total SOT to 15% of health.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Screen brightness sucks a lot of current. Try using below 50% when browsing etc. For vids sometimes you may need over 50% because of software (Samsung browser I'm looking at you🧐).

Normally for display longevity 50% brightness should be the max. Avoid using in direct sunlight whenever possible as it's hard on the display.

I'm more concerned with limiting wear on the AMOLED display than the battery; batteries are fairly easy and cheap to replace, the displays are not!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
What wear of amoled display?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Limited lifespan. Said to be around 5000 hours.

The highest energy blues go first.

The lowest energy reds go last, generally.

White and blue colors are the most "damaging".

The actual light emitting material for each pixel is microns thick. There's not much of it...

All low voltage electroluminescent's have limited lifespans much shorter than most LEDs.

There's also thousands of active semiconductor junctions in a AMOLED display that generate heat. Direct sunlight and high brightness levels are a display's worst enemies. Enough heat will fry displays just like that.

The green wavelengths are the most visible to the human eye though so less is needed to appear as visible as say red or blue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
Ok I calculated all in total for 3 days total 395 min of SOT and battery is at 18 %.

Not bad,huh?

Today no videos just browsing but with 100 % screen brightness under sunlight.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
ok so the display should never be kept in direct sunlight?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
You never want to leave the display in direct sunlight for over a few minutes, on or off.

More so in high temperatures.

Never while charging as the heat builds up rapidly. I accidentally blew out a LCD display like that.

The phone dissipates a lot of heat through the display surface when active especially when it a case. At high brightness, in direct sunlight especially in high ambient temperatures this becomes impossible and the whole phone overheats.

Thermal shutdown may not save the device... I know that🤣

With the high brightness levels needed to view the display in direct sunlight it should be kept to seconds and avoided whenever possible. At least shade it with your body...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] edo101:
Hi, I bought a CPO Note 10 + from Smasung. The battery health seems to be at 98%

Unfortunately the phone came with Android 11 One UI 3.1 I did factory reset then used Smart Switch to trasnsfer data and settings from Note 9 to Note 10+. I wiped cache and since the last 2 days of using the phone, I get SOT of 6 hours at 34% Battery left. Is this to be expected? I have all the social media apps, BT, location and sync on. I thought SOT was supposed to be better than this?

Phone is on Snapdragon, Unlocked running on Metro/TMobile. Should I install the TMobile ROM instead? Would that give me better LTE signal?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
BT should use very little power. Location, social media crapware are hogs.

Google play Services and all cloud junk are prime offenders.

My heavy optimized stock 10+ running on Pie averages 7-10%@hr SOT usage and less than .5%@hr screen off with AOD on touch demand.

High screen brightness will also eat battery.

It could also be the battery is nearing the end of its useful lifespan if never replaced. If so, get it done. A failure can needlessly destroy the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
This is my SOT since last charge,mostly 100% screen brightness at daily sunlight,though not so much video watching,mostly browsing the web,taking pics and vids in last 2 days.

Not bad guys,huh?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
You really don't want to go above 50% and certainly not to 100% for frequent or prolong times. AMOLED displays have a finite lifespan and what burns the brightest, burns the shortest.

Using it like that in direct sunlight is especially damaging, you can fry display drivers like that especially in high ambient temperatures. The active matrix screen has 10's of thousands microscopic solid state junctions not including the OLEDs... and very little heat sinking capacity.

The OLEDs and their driver matrix generate heat, the brighter it is, the higher the current draw and heat output.

Much of the heat sinking is through the display glass its self. Glass is a fairly good insulator, worse the sun's IR energy goes in and is trapped by the glass ie greenhouse effect.

It can go over temperature very rapidly before the device can thermal shutdown to protect its self especially if the device is already running hot or charging.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
Yeah but under sunlight screen is barely visible except only when you set it to 100 % brightness and you know that.

So adaptive brightness is set ON,but anyway I need to increase the brightness outdoors maybe not 100 % but 90 % but what it makes the difference then?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
I don't use my 10+ in direct sunlight, ever.

I only use manual brightness control, easier on the eye, the display and the battery.

At over 1.5 years my display shows no damage with ScreenTest.

People need to keep their eyes and attention on their surroundings when out and about, not their bloody phone. Bad things happen fast.

I don't have that bad habit... you'll live better and longer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
How much you keep brightness outdoors?

I didn't meant I keep phone in direct sunlight but at 50 % brightness you can't see nothing on screen outdoors.

I suppose need to set it to 80-90 %.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
100% in seconds only and rarely.

If I need too around 70% again not for a long time. In general I refrain from outdoor use except occasional photos.

Exceptions are a unnaturally dark screen that the Samsung browser is infamous for when watching vids.

Probably about 99% of my SOT is at 50% or less.

I'm at around 32% right now, at night it drops lower. High levels aren't needed for sites like this. I run in dark mode whenever possible as well. I'll go to 50-60% for games sometimes depending on their ambience.

Using manual control makes you more aware of the levels you're using. Adjusting it now is instinctive for me. Eye fatigue is lower as well.

Auto brightness was always a mess... and a battery hog. One should at least have ability to set hysteresis and other variables. The one size fits all isn't cutting it🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
So after 2 months of use(purchased used phone) ,my SOT is around 7h and 30 min with most of power savings ON (whatever I could do to presrve battery,including black theme,1080p resolution etc..)

Is it bad?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
I use Accubattery to detect when something is acting up. So I look for battery % use per hour.

Typical is 7%@hr when browsing in Brave.

9-11% when watching vids on Samsung browser.

AOD always on >1% an hour, phone and text on.

AOD tap on >.5 an hour.

This is with a new battery which was replaced about 3 months ago.

This stock 10+ is heavily reconfigured for security, speed and battery life.

Snapdragon AT&T variant running on Pie.

FHD+ resolution/power Optimized

Locked down with Adgaurd*, Package Disabler* and Karma Firewall.

No power management active. Wifi and NFC always disabled.

Google backup Transport, Firebase, Quicksearch and Framework always disabled.

Google play Services turn on as needed.

*new, just add "dns.adguard.com" as private DNS server. Works as is, very well

Typical charging/discharge profile
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] dancrow:
@blackhawk do you use Adguard app and adguard private DNS in the same time?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
No. It surprised me that this worked.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] altomek:
Just got new old note 10+ :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
SOT from 90 % battery to 18 % of 6.5 hours with all power savings ON,fullHD plus resolution (80 % of time watching 1080 vids).

Is it bad?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Not horrible, not great. I'm at 7-12%@hr SOT on my N10+ in FHD Optimized mode with no active power management.

I'd make the low end battery cut off at 30-40% and the top end at 72-85% most times to increase battery longevity.

Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.

15 minutes of fast charging gets you 30%.

So when I take a break I let my 10+ juice up a bit
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
Yep I know,that is why I charge at 20 % bat and to max 80 % and even not fast charging.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
If you play with it you can optimize it better.

It's unacceptable if constantly at or above 12%@hr SOT with brightness less than 40% or more than 1%@hr at night with AOD always on.

At idle I want to see the ma draw drop below 100 ma at least 20% of the time and a average peak of 180-300 ma.

Otherwise you're putting needless stress on the battery and worse not getting good run times.

One of the reasons I got the 2nd 10+ was I knew I could optimize it and how to do it. They have fairly good battery life when optimized.

However they can be hot running hogs if not🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
I think instagram from recently installed is eating up a battery a lot...using CPU resources.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
I won't let that on my phone... zero "social" apps loaded.

Zero remorse.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
I charged the phone to 90 %,and think I will like today watch whole day 1080p video on it just to see how much of a SOT will I get and post back.

I want to know if I need to replace this battery or not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
40 % brightness,mostly watching 1080p yt vids,wifi all the time,power saving ON,1080p display resolution.

So is my battery bad?

Forgot to mention no GPS,sim card.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Battery looks fine but the font style desperately needs to be replaced🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] paparazzo79:
SOT of around 7h and at 26%.

Hope ain't bad.

BlackHawk sorry man,I had a bad day but what I wrote is true.

It is good to take care of these devices,I do care about them like children but I had like 8 years old tablets and never had any battery bulge.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Makonator:
Wqhd @50% brightness

Adaptive battery

Android 12

Exynos

I could get around 7h 30 min...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
Adaptive battery always gave me worse SOT and erratic behavior. Turn off all battery management and deal with the problem apps directly. What's using 59%?

50% should be the max brightness not typical. Occasionally for vids you need to increase brightness beyond 50%, lol Samsung browser streaming.

Use FHD+ unless you can really see the difference, in most cases you can't.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] Makonator:
Got two sim cards, one with bad reception.

I don't wanna go to full HD...why buy good phone and turn everything down 😁

50% brightness is fixed for me...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Real Life Review] blackhawk:
You do have a lot of trashware. FB, Instagram, WhatsApp and other social media apps aren't permitted on my devices ever. They are malware, purveyors of disinformation and security risks. If I can't access via browser I don't go there.

I use manual brightness control. Quit easy to do on the N10+.

As for HD I have 20/10 near vision and the content I view it doesn't make a difference.

If you are benefiting from the highest resolution setting, great. For most websites, apps and vids it exceeds their resolution though. Images from the cam are one exception though. It's costing about 1%@hr SOT though.

For giggles and kicks try disabling Google play Services temporarily and see what that nets you in SOT and sleeping mode battery usage.