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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] itsjapie:
Hey everyone,

To start of: VERY nice work on the progress of this port! I can't wait when we have Android completely bug-free on the Kaiser!

I have the same issue as nikki2beeps; haret hangs 4 out of 5 times without some sort of error message. Although, changing the filename of default.txt doesn't help in my case. This problem seems to be random. I can't reproduce a state in which this problem doesn't occur.

My Kaiser/TyTnII info:

ROM version: 1.56.404.6

ROM date: 08/28/07

Radio version: 1.27.12.32

Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H

Provider: T-Mobile (Netherlands)

This is a stock ROM that came with the phone. I've checked the available memory prior to starting Haret. WM6 states that I've used 28.11MB and 105.55MB is available for 'Storage'. The second column (Programs) states that there's a total of 101.38MB, 32.36MB is in use and 69.02MB is available. I don't think the amount of available memory is the cause of harets failure to boot.

I also have the 'audio' bug. I get to do one call after which I get sort of an constant/static high-pitched sound coming from the internal speaker. I can't seem to get a sensible output from the kernel ring buffer (dmesg) so I can't pinpoint the source of this problem either.

Sending and receiving SMS does work, but after I've sent a message, Android locks up :(

Another strange bug which I only seem to have (or no-one reported it) is that I don't seem to have a ringtone when someone calls me. If I try to change it, it crashes. (Message: 'Sorry, Activity Android Systeem (in application Settings) is not responding.')

I'd like to do some more debugging. Does anybody know how I can simplify this? Does Haret dump it's debugoutput or something similair? For example, U-Boot (bootloader for embedded devices) does this via netcat and also has a interactive console.

Also, is there an easy way to remote-debug android via Linux ? It's very annoying that Android crashes and I can't see why :( Using the Terminal Emulator from within Android isn't much of a treat either. When it crashes, I have to reboot, wait until HaRet decides it likes me, and hope that the reason it crashed is still available in the log.

And last but not least; could someone please explain what 'radio' does? Does it manage the GSM or WiFi or GPS or <fill in blank> ??

If there's a way to make debugging and configuring easier, maybe I could be of some assistance. Although, if I understood correctly, Android differs from stock linux in a number of ways so I don't pretend I'd be of much use though ;).

Thanks again!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] excogitation:
some things

1. Right after booting Android the GPRS icon shows - even though data is not working - why - and can we change that?

Also "Data access" (Settings -> About phone -> Status) shows connected (even if it isn't (data not working)).

2. In Settings -> About phone -> Status -> "Network" states Android (even if there's a data connection to O2) - I think that's also the "Android" that shows on the windowshade.

3. How about getting rid of the need to setup the data connection settings manually (isn't there a db file for all networks around)?

4. Will the google services ever work with the cupcake branch - or should we just build a system.img from the 1.1 SDK?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
any suggest same info to import contac from wm6 user list ... I try to connect on internet but no work I just export contact on a gmail account but now I can't take the phone don't go on the net .... I try apn with my company but nothin tohhler connec faild
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mong0418:
I think the only way right now is copy your contacts to sim card and import them to Android. Or you can try funambol if you have data connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
how to know if I have data connection .... now when phone go on standby on came back I gie multi vertical line on screen .. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mong0418:
It's so weird! :(

I reflashed my ROM today

Now my rom is

HyperDragon_III_Raphael_WWE_20090113

radio is

1.65.24.36

which comes with the rom

and bought a new MicroSD card(I am afraid it's because of my 4G SDHC) to save Android files

But strips problem still be there.

It could normally start and suspend.

If the phone doesn't suspend too long(<5 seconds), it could be waked by Menu button.

But if suspend time is longer than 5 seconds, strips appeared.

I try all sleep mode and board-htcvogue.panel_type...rom, radio, sd card, different version of Android kernal...Is there anything I could test?

BTW, the following is my default.txt. Is everything all right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Well I tested all pm.sleepmodes, in all I had stripes. Now I am gonna test panel settings, I am still quite courious if we can somehow or somewhere find out what are the diferences between each revision (mine is model 130 so I'd guess revision 1.3)..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
We should *really* have a central repo for all changes applied to the android userland itself- such as ril code, splash screen, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Yes, the double tap lock is useful. I am not suggesting geting rid of it, simply adding the hold method. Like how it behaves in WinMo. Also, it appears I was wrong and the shift key is the same.

Two more things:

1. https sites do not work (I am on AT&T)

2. There is no key repeat on the directional keys so you have to tap them constantly instead of holding
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Have a look at github, foobar has all his changes here:

http://github.com/jsherman/

Look in the vogue-work branch.

It may need some scripts to manage this since I don't know if repo will work properly with github. I built the userspace for the first time the other day but it's not really stable enough for me to put in the build. There's a system.img here: http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/system.img if you want to try it though. The things that don't work for me are searching in maps and often the browser brings up a blank page that has to be refreshed.

The main reason I haven't put other people's system.imgs with the orientation fix into my zip is that they won't work on vogue. If you change the orientation for the kbd can you do:

if(android.os.SystemProperties.get("hw.keyboards.65536.devname").equals("kaiser_kbd"))
return Surface.ROTATION_270;
else
return Surface.ROTATION_90;

Can somebody build a 1.1 image with the f00bar and orientation changes. That should be much more stable.

okibi: If you have any kernel changes, ask for a login on linuxtogo (by joining the mobile linux group) or send them to me. Try to be sure any changes won't break polaris and vogue.

Or we could try using github for the kernel too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
what about the ril? Itr seems like this would be very, very different between cdma and gsm - this one of the reasons why system.img's built for kaiser work better than vogue ones? :P

Whoever built the latest system.img: okibi? Please post your RIL stuff somewhere...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Anyone up for a test build?

This one should have all the previous fixes plus a few new tweaks....

Data, SMS, MMS, Calls... all good

Did NOT give me a vertical line issue on any of the kaisers I tested on.

(you may need to setup the APN after first run)

http://slackthebox.com/android/Android2-15-09.zip

Thanks!

NOTE: I will not be able to do anymore work on android for at least a week, maybe two.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
Splash screen off centre.

Togga not working - says 'Modem init started', 'modem init completed' then 'Done'

Screen rotation working ok

Previous version was working ok all round....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
I did not go through all the testing so far, but what I see is, there is no red LED anymore, just green2orange flashing when device is suspended. But I have no white lines anymore..

Splash is off centre, but that is the minor issue, togga not working anymore... phone calls seems to work..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
YES, I AM. Waiting hole weekend for a test :D

Downloading... Downloaded

Startup screen off center

No data with or without Togga, also with installed APN in default.txt

I did have vertical lines when device came out of sleepmode. Came in sleepmode itself, so did not push a button.

So, previous version was better than this one for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] disturbed4686:
Noticed a problem in the first build from DZO that allowed charging with the indicator. KAIS100 that stops charging at times. This morning my screen would keep turning on and the charging indicator would turn off. Not sure why.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
same modem don't work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Rebooting to WinMo - says batery drained?

By the way, sometimes when I reboot from Android back into WinMo, the batery reporst itself empty and mobile imidietely turns off. I have to start it again and then the batery status is OK.

Is it something with my mobile only (or maybe the error is in me? :D ) or did anyone else notice some simmilar behaviour?

What the hell can be wrong? I'd guess that all the stats and sensors should be reset upon soft reboot...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Oh I am so glad I'm not the only one... I thought it just meant my battery or phone was on the way out...:rolleyes: I have been having really odd battery related issues the past few weeks, rare though, but annoying.

After resetting from Android windows mobile says the battery is dead and even before I finish reading the warning message it powers off. I have to remove the battery to fix the problem. But both my batteries do it at times, and as I said it is very rare that it happens for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
I've reformatted my sd and used the newest pack. Still have the vertical white stripe problem. After a few times of turning on and off the screen (red hang up call button) while having this problem my screen didnt even turn on anymore...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] razor1394:
Unfortunately I have those problems as well with the 20090215 pack.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] T0mmyL33:
Similar battery problem...

When starting android with full battery, within 10 min of use, the phone shuts off. After restarting in winmo, battery appears completely drained. Need to restart again or charge.

When using winmo alone, no battery drain issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
ooh.. building now to see if wifi actually works (prolly not, but worth a try :P)

Also going to take a look at various keyboard fixes (repeating arrow keys, hold-to-lock, etc.

ALSO going to look at userspace - splitting red button and power button functionality? Making browser and messaging buttons work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
That would be awesome, i hate how the red button puts the phone in sleep, it should be used to END the program, not just go back, because the program is still in memory when you press the OK button.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Hahah I have to stop quickly glancing at this forum, i saw your sig and was thinking to myself... I didn't post that! (thinking it was one of my replies) :D

Glad to see you are putting it to good use, even if it confuses me... :p

and @ poly, good luck with your fixes and such. It would be great to have working wifi, the fn key working the way it should, and good luck with the button mappings. :D

P.S. if you feel extra ambitious, and have the time, want to look at building a non-cupcake userspace build? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
just downloaded the repo from android... is the 1.1 stuff tagged 1.0?

anyways, I haven't been able to get a working system.img built yet (only tried once, though...)

and WHERE IS OKIBI GETTING HIS RIL STUFF???

oh, also, it's only a wifi start - no working wifi yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
But anything with wifi is a start. :D

And I'm not sure how their repo is set up, but as far as I know they only labeled the SDK build as 1.1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Wifi is just a first try but it does load the trout wlan driver and it talks to the hardware using SDIO so there is a fair chance it will work. It needs wpa_supplicant and I've built that stuff but it crashes. In case you don't have the wlan.ko I've attached it.

Martin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
I've been looking at the wlan driver of the G1 for some time. If this driver works exactly the same as the G1 driver then you need the firmware and wlan_loader before you start the wpa_supplicant. Now i'm just a noob so i might be wrong, if you need the firmware file i can send it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drutort:
does anyone know how to setup the tzones in the usa...

i use these settings in winmo and it works fine

http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Data
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
So then, it MAY work? Does it depend on the version of the tilt?

Lol, it confuses me too, because everytime i see that, i think u posted, but its totally worth it because its so awesome! Now on to making a great avatar!

EDIT: Got a new Avatar, whatcha think?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mahd-leb:
those settings worked for me but i dont have t-zones anymore
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Not bad. Gotta love the android fever that's going around. :D

@ anyone with t-mobile, I heard there is a data service outage in the 'states for some. So make sure data works in windows mobile first right now before trying.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drutort:
its more then that, it seems :( i tried to put the proxy and the port and nothing... and i did put the wap.voicestream.com as the apn as i would in winmo

on the other end i got to play with the opengl es stuff in the demo area it all worked, and pretty fast :) im assuming the video drivers are cooked in?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huiyi1990:
I have moble phone is moto q9 of system is windows mobile . do you have idea let me phone have linux or windows moble systematic
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
If I understood what you were asking maybe I could help more. But I do not. So all I can say is that this thread is about Android/Linux for the AT&T Tilt aka Kaiser/TYTNII. Not the Q9.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huiyi1990:
Can moto q9 install linux system?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Only way to find out is try it. It won't hurt your system other than a soft reset/poweroff. This build is tailored to the Kaiser and partly to the Polaris and it is doubtful that it would work on the Q9, but as I said there is no harm in trying it anyway.

I do not know the specs on the Q9 but as it is not HTC, I'm sure it is quite different hardware wise. Also isn't it a 240x240 (square) screen?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
While I haven't had any issues with getting the T-Mobile USA data access to work, I seem to not be able to get either the phone or the MMS to work. I'm currently running radio version 1.65.24.36 on a PDACornerUltimate ROM.

The only thing that I can think of is that I did have a PIN code set on my sim card, and still have a PIN2 set I think. I removed the PIN restriction so I no longer need that to access the radio, but that didn't seem to help on the Android side of things.

It just seems odd to me, where most posters are having issues getting T-Mobile data to work that the phone section should just "work". I'd really like to get this working and do appreciate all the work that has gone into this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
Its kinda hard not to get infected with android fever with all the progress thats happened in just a couple weeks! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drutort:
oh i havent even tried mms/sms... i doubt it works as right now when i changed the default.txt file from err default what it came... i dont get even the G icon no more, i dont know if its a good or bad thing LOL

also playing in the settings and dev areas for info, the phone doesnt know what network im on even... it doesnt have any other info so it seems... i would guess maybe that could cause a problem for mms/sms then as well?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
Yeah, the mms/sms isn't a huge deal for me. My notification area does have the G for data and it works just fine. My signal bars do show up and fluctuate so it looks like it's getting something from the radio - when I go into the wireless settings and try to find a network it doesn't find anything. The automatic registration thing will just sit and try to hook up, so I usually just end up soft resetting back to winmo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drutort:
(running 2/12)

i stand corrected, i got togga to connect after like 5 tries.. with putting "ppp.apn=wap.voicestream.com ppp.username= ppp.password= "

maye i should try something that isnt blank?

in the settings >>wireless controls >>mobile networks>> apn: wap.voicestream.com proxy 216.155.165.50 port 8080 username and password blank server blank

but all i get is a stall... err browser and maps seem to think there is a connection but nothing is loading... just hangs :/

any help?

update::

just tried to setup email, tried my gmail account with the connection... and it worked! O_o but the net and other apps are not setting the proxy or the routing through the 8080 port?

maybe someone else can figure out how to get the browser to work... or maps with the wap

right now togga says im connected, i can check gmail email... but browser does not work, it should work as other tmo ppl have used tzones on the android, and i double checked the settings, so seems there is some bug some place im sure :)

i checked in settings "about phone >> status>> mobile network state: disconnected" but togga reports that i am connected

http://www.gruups.com/tzones/#androidG1

http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Data
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
try removing the apn completely, and setting up the default.txt with apn & correct username & password. No g-icon, but togga will connect, and browsing, email and maps will work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] huiyi1990:
qiao_1990@msn.cn is my msn . please to add my msn and I consult you some question on msn. thanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
Trying to build the kernel and it gives me an error:

init/calibrate.c:172: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault

dzo, i assume you used a new kernel build to load the wlan.ko, because the previous one didnt have loadable module support right? Could you post this new kernel?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
Hi,

you can grab wpa_supplicant from Debian package for ARM platform.

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/wpasupplicant

Michal
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tuscho:
Another HTC devices with HTC working?

Is there anybody that have any information about it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Hi, use the vogue_defconfig in arch/arm/configs. It looks like the source for the wlan driver is in system/wlan of the android source.

I've just rewritten the ts driver to use interrupts, should be much smoother now.

Latest zip on the website includes new ts and wifi initialisation. (wifi not working though), also new system img with orientation fix.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
wait new pack :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Togga doesn't work in this one for me... screen rotation and orientation are ok.

I don't note any TS responsiveness improvement. Wifi has no change in capabilities.

I love it though that each time update images come from DZO, the have a date in the zipfile that's already tomorrow! Really like as if Android is coming from the future!

EDIT: Starting with a fresh data.gz and togga works again...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
umm... alright... can someone go through how to build a system.img and all correctly?

I tried just grabbing using repo the master branch, then building (no patches, I'll work those in later - I just wanted it to work).

The three files it created:

ramdisk.img: seems to be a gzipped initrd. Would be nice if it actually had the right files inside. Ended up using a previous build's initrd.

userdata.img: just ended up using my data.img

system.img: file think's it's a VMS executable - and my kaiser is no alpha :P . Had to do mkcramfs on the system/ folder to get a usable image to try out.

So, this setup boots, and has its screen laid out for HVGA, doesn't have most of the radio stuff working, and I'm not really sure if it's 1.0 or 1.1 (how can I tell reliably).... ntm everything crashes (togga, for one) when I open it.

Okay, so some of those problems are caused by the lack of the good patched. But how do I actually build three files that'll work? How do I know if I've got the right version? and WHERE IS THE GOOD RIL?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] neoraco:
Can't make phone call

Hi every ones!!! :)

Android boot excellent, have internet connection but I can't make calls.

Someone can help me.

Thank you!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
I have inverse problem call ok but not internet :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I can make calls and I can browse internet!

EDIT: recording a video in the camera app actually records a video-file, but completely black because of no input...!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] neoraco:
nickgallis,

Did you config in Android APN settings?

C/P from androidonhtc

1. Open the settings menu from the pop up menu on the home screen by pressing the menu button

2. Navigate to Wireless Controls –> Mobile Networks –> Access point names

3. Press the menu button and delete the current APN

4. Press the menu button again to create a new APN and enter your information into it

Run Togga within Android to initialize the connection

Try this hope working for you.:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
I've got the same issue, and am wondering if it's not somehow connected to having had a PIN (and PIN2 maybe?) set on my SIM card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
not try to cam back on relese of 2.12 the 2.15 don't work ... and try
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
As do I. I was going to call T-Mobile today to see if there is indeed a PIN and/or PIN2 on my SIM card. I'm sure there's probably a PIN2 tho...

EDIT: The guy was so slow (mentally, that is)... Anyway, T-Mo told me since I never put a PIN on the card, that it should be either 1234 or 00000000. He asked me what kind of phone I had. When I told him a Kaiser, you could hear the confusion on his face. o_O

EDIT2: Neither of these work. Back to the drawing board...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Darius_:
Thx a lot fdrzrich! I was no longer able to boot until I read this line!

Also have vert line problem.

Kais130

[ROM 65.24.36]

Edit: Current android form: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/