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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spawntildie:
ok i lied...i just booted back into shadowonline's zImage and i can't get a data connection now... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
hmm, don't know who shadowOnline is, but he sounds cool ;)

First, for the record, it isn't my kernel, I just put it all together and help document it a little.

But to fix Try re-downloading and copying all files from my zip, and just replace the zImage that was just posted. Sometimes things don't agree then it messes up the data.img and data does not work again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spawntildie:
oh, haha, i've been staring at my phone too much today, im seeing things...

and i knew it wasn't your kernel per-se, i was just saying i got it from your package...

i just tried putting everything on my phone again with the new kernel and im still getting the failed to load error. i really want right side up sms!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
His kernel doesn't do the screen rotation yet, that is in a system.img posted earlier, but it does not have working internet...

And DZO, with the latest latest file you posted, I am now not getting a working backlight settings, no vibration, and well, nothing good... lol

(and off topic, anyone watching the super bowl know whats up with the 3d glasses thing?? did i miss something? I dont have any... lol)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spawntildie:
ok now i can't get a data connection win winmo either?? did i break something?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] y2it217:
For me audio in calls still doesn't work.. Mine is att tilt and cingular network.

2nd time, I tried calling voice mail and then booted into android. Then all my audio (music player) came from internal speaker, instead of the external one.. and also when I try to make a call, it says, "didn't register in the network"..

and also, when I called my voice mail and booted into android, the call didn't end until android home screen came up..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I dont know what to tell you with the connection in Winmo. I know that every now and then when i reboot back into winmo, my battery shows no power. I have to pull the battery and then it seems to work after.

@ y2it217, try restarting the phone, making just a data connection in Windows Mobile, then launch android with the newest files.

@ spawntildie take the battery out for 15 sec, and restart, see if it helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
hello, latest kernel has no backlight control, in call earpiece not working, home shortcut not working, I suppose poly poly patch broke what DZO added yesterday.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] macsbac:
I managed to get the GPRS icon to appear in my title bar today for the first time by not only changing the APn settings in default.txt but the APN settings in android. I had to also change the MCC and MNC settings. Still cannot get togga to connect though.

Heres a link to many operator settings from around the world.

http://android.v-dh.nl/internet.php
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] paede:
GPS and bluetooth support for Dream! Usefull for Kaiser?

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/vendor/htc/dream.git;a=summary

dream: Enable bluetooth support

dream: Enable GPS support
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
@ paede,

I'm not sure it would help, as the kaiser is different hardware. But I will let the pro's decide what helps or doesn't help. :D

@ eezak

, If you came in too late to get the original one that works, Attached is the working one. Rename the extracted file to zImage-Kaiser or zImage depending on what your default.txt says.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] paede:
for bluetooth it looks like it has the same hardware (brf6300)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] chrisrc1985:
morning all,

I have the 1-28-09 version of andriod.

I have noticed that there has been a new zImage release, has there been any other file updates?

Thank You
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] echofloripa:
Vendor stuff on official GIT repository

I noticed that there are three vendor especific stuff on the official git:

platform/vendor/asus/eee_701.git

platform/vendor/htc/dream.git	build configuration for HTC...	Android

platform/vendor/qcom/surf.git	Qualcomm surf

Excuse me for my ignorance, but could some changes "we" are doing be done as a vendor specific like those? And made them available in the main git?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
Thank you :) this one has backlight and correct audio routing .
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Borkata81:
I have been following the development of this project for long time and still hasn't commented.

About taking stuff from Dream repository I think searched google and found too that Bluetooth module is same for Kaiser (brf6300).

I cannot agree for the GPS. HTC Dream is using GPS Low Noise Amplifier (ALM-1412) form Avago and HTC Kaiser is dealing with Qualcomm's RFR6500 (receive with integrated GPS) and RTR6275 (transmit) as well as AWT6280, AWT6273 and AWT6273 amplifiers.

So to be honest Bluetooth shouldn't be difficult to be turned on :)

Another thing I have noticed is that HTC Dream WiFi is from Texas Instruments - Power Amplifier WL1251FE and IC WL1251B 802.11b/g.

Kaiser's is again from TI - WL125 (not 100% sure they are the same though)

So in the same git we have:

enable wifi support

prebuilt kernel and wifi driver for dream.

I will leave developers to comment :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dadennis:
with latest zImage and the APN-Settings from the site posted by macsbac internet works fine for me,

without

togga!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
That's very interesting. I still ahve to run togga to get the internet connection activated.

Did you change anything else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Does this mean the togga party is over? I just got my bed sheets out. ;)

Are you running the latest system.img with the correct screen rotation? And which zimage?

@ Developers, if not done so before or already, you should date each zImage and system.img release. That will help with any confusions and help identify which one people might be talking about since there is a lot of forward movement in this with many versions by different Devs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
files

Can someone be kind enough to post all the newest files ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I will package the latest *working* version, with data and sms working, and new apps as well as soon as I get home today. If nobody else beats me to it. Right now I am at work and am using my tilt as a modem so I can't really upload anything yet.

It will have working (for at&t at least) data and sms, but not the proper screen rotation and the keyboard is still mapped for the kaiser, not the tilt..

Edit: that is if I can get data working again... lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zorka:
is it just me, or does the keyboardlight stays on after opening and closing the keyboard ? (orientation is correct)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] XFACTOR:
tanx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Latest files are here.

http://www.slackthebox.com/android/Android2-1.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
@ Keizerbaas....

I'm trying to get the connection to work. I've used the codes from the site a few pages back. but I can't seem to make it work. Can you make a copy of your default.text so I can see what the @&%$# I'm doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] devonian69:
I was trying out some of the applications that are installed in the last ZIP posted. Are they all supposed to be working? I am having problems with Shazam (great program!).

Anyway... this isn't an important question - just curious if I missed something when I started up Android.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
holy crap just made a phone call!

just test out the new files on the att Tilt and was able to make a phone call... awesome progress.... speaker phone does not work though but so what...screen orientation worked on the last files i used but not on the newest one .. but im sure that will be an easy fix... wow great progress on making phone calls work im going to test out text messages
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Thank you okibi for the package.

@ Devonian69, The shazam application does not work. Facebook is touch and go. The official last.fm does not work (when playing anything). And other apps either crash or are unusable on qvga.

On a side note, the google login service in dev tools is broken in the cupcake release, as there is no SDK release for Cupcake yet according to the google message boards.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I've got power collapse to work, there's an experimental kernel here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage-kaiser

To try it, add pm.sleep_mode=1 to the cmdline in default.txt.

When the led is red, the phone should be powered down. Wake it up with one of the front panel keys.

I haven't left it for long enough to see if it really works, but it should.

This kernel also has some kbd fixes, (kbd backlight goes off when kbd is shut and it should use less cpu).

When it's all working well I'll set the led to flash, it's always on so you can see when it's sleeping.

All changes are in the git repo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
nice job dzo...all works as you said, now we need to get the battery meter to work...will I be sleeping with android tonight?...maybe not just yet hahaha
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I have an issue with the newest one. I am downloading in firefox, and it says it is zImage-Kaiser(23) ... as in I've downloaded all your updates 23 times... :rolleyes: I think i need an AA meeting. (androids Anonymous. hehe)

Anyway, first round of testing, using the end key, I can not get it to wake up... Continuing testing for other issues as soon as it decides to work again...

Edit: stupid me, it wasnt in standby, the battery died! lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
I had a minor issue with the phone waking up a couple seconds after being asleep..something was waking the phone up..it was either because i hit the scroll wheel to wake it before hand(since the scroll is weird in android) or it had to do with an application running...but it stayed asleep after i hit the directional pad and the back button. I also noticed the led flashes green once, randomly or maybe every minute or so..not sure what that means.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Tested for around 1-2 hours with about 10-15 minutes of being awake, it seems the battery went down about 6-8%
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Wim, try this. I have Tmobile but maybe the ppp.username & password settings work for you as well.

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage-kaiser

set initrd "initrd.gz"

set cmdline "ppp.username=internet ppp.password=internet pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"

# fbcon=rotate:1

# console=ttyMSM0"

boot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
It seems the keymapping changed in this kernel, no home key anymore? I don´t like setting it to the end key, because this should sleep the phone... and it does!

Great work! The led goes red after a while. Keyboard led goes off when shut, I love it!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
Thankyou for this! Data now works again with this, using togga. The 'G' icon appears before activating togga (once APN settings changed) but no internet until togga is activated.

Connecting to T-Mobile uk using 'user' and 'wap' in default.txt. In APN settings changed APN to 'general.t-mobile.uk', username and password to 'user' and 'wap' and MCC/MNC to '234' and '30'.

Not had chance to test much else yet, just pleased to have internet access back!

[edit] Screen rotates upside down on keyboard slide with this, doesn't rotate back....Hmmmmm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Bartuk:
ok i tried the latest zImage from dzo with the latest files of okibi.

i still have no sound.

when the screen timeouts i can't get android back :P the screen stays dark and only the green led is always on...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] corvus:
Test

I will put a number of points to test with every mix of files (system.img, initrd and kernel).

1) To test the phone, you must have an active call when you boots android. Call Voice Mailbox and when you get response launch haret. Here you must test internal and external speaker, incoming and outgoing calls, dtmf tones, etc.

2) To test sms, send a sms... :rolleyes: and someone must send a sms to you.

3) To test data conection, modify default.txt with username and password, change the apn into android configuration and launch togga. You must have an active connection in WinMo befoure launch android.

4) To test screen rotation, rotate screen...

5) To test power suspend, change the pm.sleep_mode= to 1 and use the latest kernel compiled by dzo. Wait until phone suspend and wakeup with front buttons and keyboard backlight.

If someone wants to add something to test are free to do...

Then with system.img from 31-1 and latest kernel from dzo:

Work: Outgoing calls with internal speakers, sms, screen rotation, power suspend and wakeup with frontal buttons

Dont work: Data connection (maybe misconfiguration... i put all the default and apn values correctly, i get G icon, but dont get connection with or without togga). Incoming calls (no ring and no screen info...).

Not tested: backlight, dtmf tones.

Corvus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
Thanks Keizerbaas, but I still can't get a connection. This is how my default text looks like:

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd "initrd.gz"

#

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"

set cmdline "ppp.username=vodafone ppp.password=vodafone pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"

# fbcon=rotate:1

# console=ttyMSM0"

boot

I still get the connection error. Anybody knows what i'm doing wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
I have also Vodafone NL. The above default.txt looks good, but you have to set the APN as follows:

Name: Vodafone

APN: live.vodafone.com

Username: vodafone

Password: vodafone

MCC: 204

MNC: 04

Leave the rest blank!

With these settings I'm able to setup a data connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@Kaiserchief

In dev tools you can set the end button to 'First home, then sleep'.

This is great!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
It is not necessairy to have a active call during boot.

Long time ago, about two weeks, we only could call with the speaker. Someone said that when there is an active call during booting with Haret, call will be via internal speaker.

(I thought) DZO made a zImage were all calls goed via the internal speakers and playing MP3 through the external one.

My conclusion is that an active call is NOT needed for booting Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
nonsense, no need to have active call before bootnig android.

Really?

I still only use the 23-1 system.img because I think this is the only one with working data / togga. SMS then works, data works, incoming calls, outgoing calls, etc... Incl. the latest zimage also keyboard backlight witch off, dimming screen backlight, powerled, no Home key...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
The 23-1 system.img gives me the roaming problem :( Still no solution. Waiting for a new one ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
I had the same problem with that set of files. Just tried the http://www.slackthebox.com/android/Android2-1.zip set and togga is now working - internet is working again. Shame the screen isn't rotating properly....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] corvus:
I just show my results... without active call and with this files i dont get internal speaker in calls, with active call i get it...

Corvus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] corvus:
Like i said, i only get call audio by internal speaker if i have an active call in android boot... if you dont need it good for you...

My post was a idea to test all the mixes of system, initrd, kernel, radio and radio provider. I will try de 23's system.img with the last kernel with my 3g network and with the active call and post my results... maybe we must use a template of this form:

Model (tilt or kaiser):

Radio:

Operator:

Network:

Date of system.img:

Date of initrd:

Date of Kernel:

And then explain what works or not...

Corvus.

PD:

Model: Kaiser

Radio: 1.65.24.36

Operator: Telefonica (Spain)

Network: GMS/UMTS/HSPA

Date of system.img: testing

Date of initrd: testing

Date of Kernel: testing
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
I'm going to use this zImage today and leave my phone unplugged and see what happens. Also, DATA is working again, but alas the screen is again upside-down when the KB is slid out. I've never been able to have both at the same time :(

Update: The light above the screen is going red alright, but the hardware keys across the front are staying lit?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@okibi

Latest files? Which one? We have had a lot of system.img files from different developers. I lost it.

Earlier we told about structure. We really need that. I have send an email to DZO and hope to get a reaction soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Back to basic

Fellow Android fans,

We have a lot discussions about devices with several problems.

We all are trying to help everyone. That is were this forum is for, but...

One is using system.img 'A', the other system.img 'B'. A has settings A1 and B has settings B1. B complains that with settings from A he does not have (for example) data connection or whatever.

What I want to say is that we all have to go to one version. I would like to propose that we take DZO releases as standard.

I want also propose that other developers contact DZO when they have finished a part and want to publish it.

Anyone an other suggestion?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MasteRTriX:
excellent that´s exactly what is needed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dperren:
Dear God yes. This turned into a clusterfuck weeks ago, and is in dire need of someone taking charge before all this hard work gets wasted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
dzo - a request...could it be possible for you to correct the screen rotation issue? It appears we have a version that has it corrected, but data connection stopped working (for me, along with some others).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slux:
at last - common sense! The various different versions and download locations is just adding to the confusion.

By the way - the latest zImage posted by dzo:

it goes into powersave and the led goes orange, I press a key and led goes green but screen is dead. slide out the keyboard and the lights are on the keyboard, but still no screen. Had to reset device. I was in the middle of changing the apn settings when I put the device down for a bit - came back after about 15 mins - not sure if that means anything?

Using the recommended radio - 1.65.24.36 and this package:

http://www.slackthebox.com/android/Android2-1.zip

(with the zImage replaced)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fdrzrich:
Agree with the need to get one set of files going, so that we're all on the same page. Perhaps people should only report bugs if they state setup they are using as well. I'm using:

> http://www.slackthebox.com/android/Android2-1.zip (as its the only recent version with working data)

> dzo's latest zImage

on Kaiser

> Radio - 1.65.24.36 (G.DK 9 SE)

> Attached default.txt

> Start data only (not call)

> APN setting: general.t-mobile.uk ; user - internet ; pass - internet ;

> MCC/MNC - 234/30

Findings/Faults:

Loading splash screen off centre again

Data works (after Togga)

Screen rotates upside down

Screen doesn't switch back.

Browser seems slow/unresponsive even though data active (weather works fine)

DTMF tones via external

Make/recieve calls via internal speaker

SMS working - notification beep via external speaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
screen would switch back after changing the setting in Spare Parts...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Please provide more explanation or step-by-step instruction. Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Just a note, as far as I know, the system.img (though im not using that download) is the one before the working screen rotation, as it has had the most success with data connections.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I thought most of us are part of the generation that doesn't read the manual, just press all the button and see what happens, but here you go:

tick on Spare Parts -> scroll down to Display rotation, tick to see the settings change.

Choose "Display rotates when lid is open" instead of "Display rotates from orientation" (the latter probably would use the accelerometer or motion sensor, which our lovely little Kaisers unfortunately don't have.

EDIT; and indeed it rotates, just upside down...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
I'm using these settings now......and I still get the connection error. Anybody some new suggestions? I really want this to work. Thanks for the help Keizerbaas and radem205

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd "initrd.gz"

#

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"

#

set cmdline "ppp.username=vodafone ppp.password=vodafone pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"

# fbcon=rotate:1

# console=ttyMSM0"

boot

APN settings in android

Name: Vodafone

APN: live.vodafone.com

Username: vodafone

Password: vodafone

MCC: 204

MNC: 04

EDIT: Listen for connections now gives me the "Failed to bind to socket" error.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Thanks for the step-by-step instruction. That is where I was confused. I did exactly as you said and the screen rotates upside down no matter which option I choose. Any Idea?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
I have exactly the same settings and it works on my device. So I think it's possible that you have a wrong system.img or something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
The "working data" system.img file seems to have this MD5 hash:

d2e8ba7e0e299bfdd2b98d46f520ed2d

the "data.img" file in the famous 1-23 zip file has this hash

da5a9e12b8cb51f1412786d252aa4175

Both of which match the hashes in the 2-1 zip...