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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
rosie by apk i thought wasn't possible as it needed lots of changes in the framework?

in any case, one of the other devs is very close to a working hero port with rosie... don't know how stable or how fast though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
i would wait and not get the dream, especially for 500 bucks... there are likely to be a glut of android devices coming out in the fall from samsung, motorola, nokia and many from HTC, so i'd wait if you can about 6 more months and see what comes. It shouldn't be long before there is a keyboard version of the hero... with much more ram and internal storage than the dream.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
system-nkhero & zImage 7-24

Ok I have been playing around with it for several hours now and can say that so far it is working great compared to the bundle from yesterday.

The Data is still not automatically loading, have to go to modem to initialize. Also appears to be some hang ups. After a while data does not work right....unable to load information from market, surf web. I have been rebooting to get it going again.

Seeing as how it is so late I have been unable to test calls to see if you get death from an incoming call before you place an outgoing. The GPS does autostart just fine now without loading first in WinMo which is a great change as well as the network triangulation in google maps and other programs.

Edit 1: The call of death is still happening. Must make an outgoing call as soon as you boot to keep from happening.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SkywalkerPD:
I hope that someone can help me. I keep having major problems with the power of my kaiser when I'm using Android. The battery is empty in about 2 hours I think.

I tried a lot of settings, but never found a solution for this problem, wich keeps me from using Android on a daily basis.

My phone is a dutch Vodafone Tytn 2 (Kaiser, V1615, MDA Vario III)

Below is my startup.txt

=========================================================

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

#set initrd "initrd.gz"

set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"

#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

#

set cmdline "clock-7x00.mddi=0xa51 clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 clock-7x00.a11=528 board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity=1350 board-kaiser-ts.PMAX=700 board-htckaiser.panel_type=1 ppp.apn=Internet ppp.username= ppp.password= pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=428 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"

boot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
I have noticed that it seems like the newest files are draining the battery less than my originals did. Try them and see what happens. Make sure you use the latest zImage7-24 and system.img from google code.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
me 2

i have posted something simillar earlier. im facing the same problem. havent tried the 7-24 build for this problem. will check and post results
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
You can try deleting this part of the commandline:

clock-7x00.mddi=0xa51 clock-7x00.ahb_div=4 clock-7x00.a11=528 board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity=1350 board-kaiser-ts.PMAX=700
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lhaig:
What is the best rom to use on a Kaiser Tytan II.

I have had trouble with my phone and the new android 1.5 images. I con't get sound to work during calls. I have been able to follow the the instructions to get the data access working but i am unable to make or recieve calls.

I would appreciate any help with this.

I also want to find out if you can store your data on a data partition on the sd card rather than the data.img file.

Thanks

Lance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] addisu:
Hello,

I have loaded the latest (2009-07-24) builds on my At&t Tilt and I see that /proc/calibration is an empty file. Is this the correct behavior? Since wlan_loader uses this file as its eeprom image, I thought it would have something in it.

Also, I want to confirm that you have to make an outgoing call when you first boot in order to get incoming calls to work.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
I downloaded the Bundle 2009-07-23.

I downloaded the latest zImage and 'hero-'system.img

The ROM is working well. The only thing I mentioned is that the phone is switching off after a while. I have to test this better, but wanted to write this already. maybe others can test this also.

When Android is running, I left the phone. On a certain moment it went into sleepmode.

When I wake the device up, I see the "X" in the phone-icon.

I can not make a data connection, because of no connection.

I have to restart Android to make it work again.

Am I the only one?

Is there a way to enable the phone? I tried to put Android into flightmode, but then it is impossible to turn flightmode off. I think some GSM module is unloaded while sleepmode or something like that :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
Rural area network information

I have to do the first outgoing call on mine. I tested the incoming and it was the same thing as before.

Also noticed something with the network information/ tower triangulation. I am out in a more rural area right now and it is not working here. The programs that use it are unable to get a fix. The Google local program retains the last fix information and only uses the network information so will not work here. Will start looking back in the city instead.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
The dream is the best android device on the market with a keyboard. As for future devices, there is nothing that seems to truly have the entire feature set of the dream.

The AT&T Fortress, is really the Touch Pro 2(code name Rhodium) which is a windows mobile device.

The screen has a resolution of 480x800. It is not a touch capacitive screen like the iPhone and Dream but is a traditional touch screen like the kaiser. The screen is 3.6" making it a slight be larger than the iPhone screen (3.5"). The screen also tilts up like the kaiser.

It has more memory than most handsets on the market plus has an extremely powerful noise cancelling speaker phone operation. It uses two microphones to accomplish this task. Personally, I feel it is the best hardware available this year. It only lacks a track ball, touch capacitive screen, and the android OS.

I'm tempted to buy it and hope they can port the Android OS to it natively. The theory being that the drivers for most of the hardware are available in the Hero phone that has android and is being released this year. I'm going to wait though till android is at least running from an SDcard on it. I want an adroid set with a keyboard also.

Click all three links above. On shows AT&T's version, one shows the Generic Version, and the Last is a link to the appropriate forum for that device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edmondt:
This ROM works good, the only thing is that I still cannot make outgoing or incoming calls to voicemail or any other number.

Is there a trick to make it work? Which radio version should I be using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
I can do all of those things with the mssmisonsystem.img. My radio is listed in my signature.

The reverse landscape thing I fixed by doing the following:

Enter the browser with the keyboard closed. Press the IE key to return to the main display. It should appear normal, not landscape.

Then I go through the following.

settings -> sound and display -> Orientation (uncheck)

This works for me as long as I don't open the keyboard while at the android desktop. If I do it within an application, it we rotate back correctly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edmondt:
Thanks, I am using the same ROM as you and I am going to give that Radio version a try and report back....

UPDATE: Downgraded my Radio to 1.65.24.36, booted to Android... fingers-crossed!! call voicemail, call home etc and... hangs up immediately :(

One thing tho, INCOMMING call works with good quality :)

I just need to be able to call someone with this thing...

Could be to do with my Rogers sim card... who knows...

Keyboard is lagging, have to type slower...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
I think I mean the HTC Lancaster

I had originally wrote that, but then when reading over the post thought that it didnt look right.

Moral of the story: Dont second guess your self.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
Mine also lags
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Could somebody like...send it to me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Kinglouis3:
I downloaded the new NK02 multilingual builds, and the new zimage.

Started with a new data img and everything in the Hero themed build worked except I couldn't download anything from market, I would just get a constant Download unsuccessful.

Started with a new data img again and tried the Non themed build and everything including market downloads worked fine.

Did anyone else have a problem downloading from market in the hero themed build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mike233:
I'm getting keyboard lag too (AT&T Tilt). Every build after the 7/09 package has been doing this for me....

I have noticed that using the 7/09 kernel in some of the newer builds fixes this keyboard problem, but in turn raises other issues (namely no sound from the rear speaker for ringing, etc)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
I also have lag. And it makes it so hard to text
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
my keyboard is lagging since 3 bundle releases before...

i just keeped saying that.. but no one cared :(

people... keyboard is lagging :( its impossible to write a decente SMS...

kaiser hardware keyboard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
How can I replace the Email.apk in the nk-hero system.img with a the one that has Exchange Sync?

I'm looking for a tutorial of some sort.

UPDATE: Figured it out. Turns out that the Email.apk did not contain the Exchange Sync support. I'll be working with a friend to figure out which one does. Please let me know if you are already know?

UPDATE2: Its is the Mail.apk but it won't install. Even if I allow non-market apps. Any ideas.

UPDATE3: Using the file from here corrected my issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
I've been pretty bored today, so I've been messing around with the latest stuff. Below are my findings:

Using

AT&T Tilt with JoshKoss 6.5 and radio 1.70.19.09

NK02 Hero system.img

initrd.gz (07-23-09)

zImage-24-07-09

Clean data store

The Good

No more coma of death

GPS works (first time in Android for me)! Cold fix in under 45 sec. & very accurate

System seems smoother over all

Hero themed interface is pretty

In call tones are fixed (before when you'd press a number or *, the sound of the tone was insanely loud and distorted)

The Bad

Keyboard lags! It's bringing back bad memories of Windows Mobile...

Internet still doesn't auto-connect, must use Modem (APN settings are correct in both Android and default.txt)

Calibrate Screen application crashes on start

Speaker phone doesn't work

Other Thoughts

Earlier, with no open applications, phone started running very hot and battery drained quickly. Internet went down and couldn't be brought back up (pm.sleep_mode=1, no overclocking) -- hopefully this was a one time occurrence

Does anyone know anything about the possibility of cell-tower based location support? I have never seen any notes on this subject, and although not vital (especially with working GPS) it is handy for a lot of location-based applications
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
keyboard lag is due to a change that was made in the kernel to debounce keys... we'll have to add a check to make sure it was the same key pressed twice and not two separate keys, and also to reduce the delay time on the bounce

i think i can fix internet autoconnection, should be picking up the GSM phone tonight or tomorrow from the post.

network location currently works, just turn it on. Right now there is no way to tell the GPS chip to only use cell location, it always has both turned on or both turned off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
Can the keyboard modifications be made optional, i've had problems with repeated keys not working, especially things like wpa_supplicant

Also:

Does /proc/calibration have anything inside it? cat /proc/calibration didn't do anything. I ask because of this:

http://projects.linuxtogo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=32&group_id=37&atid=273

If you take a look at the file in an editor such as hackman (freeware) its mostly Fs or 0s, very little info, although mine could be corrupted since i can't even get my wlan to work in WM. This might be a solid lead.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
Network location doesn't work everywhere. Where I work is closer to a city and it works there but where I live it is just a small town and does not work here. Don't know if it is a different tower frequency or what but I do know it works in WinMo and is more accurate. Just trying to help :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mike233:
Same exact issue here - network based location works for me at home, and is extremely accurate, but not at work (which is a more rural location). WinMo works perfectly for me too, everywhere. Maybe this is a GSM radio issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Vilord, would it be possible to make Android behave like WinMo where it's possible to press Fn once and release to make the next key and only the next key be modified, double press to make all keys be modified, or (and this is the broken part) hold it and have it modify keys until released?

Especially with the Tilt keypad, I find this method is the most convenient for entering phone numbers.

Good to know about the network based location, I'll give it a try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
the fn-key as a modifier would be very easy. much easier than using it like a single-press caps button. It would just be a matter of changing the keychars file (along with keymap and zImage to initially set that up)

I might take a peek at the keymapping and debouncing stuff this weekend, but the GSM radio is more of a priority for all those folks that can't dial out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
This is a feature I've been wondering about for a while, actually.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] addisu:
How do we know that the start address is 0x2500000? Anyways, with the eeprom generated according to the instruction and all debug options enabled, the driver fails while downloading the eeprom to the acx internal memory, specifically in the whal_hwAccess_WriteMem function. Any clues?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
really good question about the addresses... don't know where they got that from, it might have been referencing some file in windows mobile's storage (mtd0 is just the internal flash)... and it might be in a different place depending on rom, radio, etc.

when i last looked at it with one of the others on here, the failure was after the download... but we had to get wlan.ko module to load first... you have that properly loaded, yes?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Newbie16:
The current location does have the wlan mac address backwards, so it can't be too far off, would it be possible to take the rom dump and make a kernel interface that allows the driver to access the whole rom? I mean if the interface doesn't exist can't we make a simple fake one to do the job?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
The fn key thing would be nice, but it still works either way so id say it isn't a priority if it gets in the way of other features.

I can't get network location to work, with or without gps turned on, google maps says cannot get location.

Also don't forget that in the mobile operators section, that it still does not work. Don't know what effect that might have on functionality yet.

Also, the hero themed android works very well with the weather widget and its hero style clock/weather.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] deekjx:
Your latest build corrected the issues I had with dialing out on the nk-hero build. Anyone else having problems with dialing out on that build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Just tested, and without making an outgoing call in WM first, it seems to work ok for me each time. My only real problem is every so often it locks up on me, but that might be due to my 528 clockspeed in default.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
My Android locks up, also. It restarts about every 5 minutes. It does not the first time, but I think it is after I set my settings and/or GPS is running.

When Android starts, it search immediately for a GPS fix. I see the GPS icon in the bar.

When I delete my data.img and start Android again, it does not restart anymore.

My first conclusion is that GPS is causing this problem. I will do some tests in the next days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
24 july system img feedback

Here is a little feedback on the latest system images, but first a big thank you to everybody who are working on this.

my setup: Kais 130, tpc v 8, radio 1.70.18.2

When I tried the july 23 files could not connect to the gsm network, but data worked fine. With the 24 july hero themed sys img, google apps didnt work, but setting up google apps in the non hero themed sys img worked fine, even after I changed back to the hero themed sys img (keeping the data file). In the 24 july non hero themed sys img I get no sound while making phone calls, in the hero themed one, there is no problems.

I have the time issues and keyboard lack issues mentioned by others, but the fn key works like in winmo (using hero themed 24 july img).

best, -
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Yeah, a stable GSM radio is obviously more important. I just wasn't sure how related to the keyboard lag the modifier situation was, so I figured it was a good time to mention.

On a more important note, I left my phone charging over night and it wouldn't wake up this morning (using the same stuff as last post - July 24 zImage and NK02 Hero system.img). The left LED stayed lit orange continuously even after being unplugged, and the right LED flashed green every 5-10 seconds, but nothing could wake it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 188236:
Not possible to log into Google Account

I have Android 1.5 on my HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris).

I cant log into the Google account. When I go to "Dev Tools" -> "Google Login Service" the application crashes. ("Sorry! The application Dev Tools (process com.android.development) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.")

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
did u set your apn settings in settings - wireless ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 188236:
Yes. The internet connection is working perfectly fine. I can browse to whatever page with the browser.

I think its an error in the latest build. Maybe depending on the model?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
I would be able to browse the internet only setting my apn in the default.txt, but not access google apps without specifying the apn in settings -> wireless .... I am using the latest build and can access google apps....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
On a more important note, I left my phone charging over night and it wouldn't wake up this morning (using the same stuff as last post - July 24 zImage and NK02 Hero system.img). The left LED stayed lit orange continuously even after being unplugged, and the right LED flashed green every 5-10 seconds, but nothing could wake it.[/QUOTE]

Same here- 2nd time it's happened - it also likes to freeze up and i have to use the stylus on the tilt to restart phone , love the OS though - just awaiting wifi, and camera working :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Advice?

Quick questions for those that are in the know. We're considering switching to TMobile which has the G1 Android phones. I currently have a Tilt, i tested the 2 side by side, by just pressing the button that brings the menu up, and the Tilt was actually a bit faster, but I just want some thoughts from you guys!

Also my phone today just turned off, with a full battery - is the "coma" everyone has been discussing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Man, I would love mssmison's system.img if it had GPS and orientation working correctly on the Kaiser...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
KAIS100 locks up at HARET with new initrd. No boot to linux... is anyone else getting this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] coincoinlapin:
Farewell Xda community :(

After only 2 years, my Kaiser just died on me because of a faulty air conditioning machine in a Roman hotel. My kaiser was literally dripping with condensation in the morning :(

I'll receive my brand new Samsung Galaxy tomorrow, but I wanted to thank this community for all the added value it provided to my kaiser (3d driver / android / cooked roms etc).

I hope someday Android will run perfectly on this phone, because it was a good phone, and because it's an excellent platform.

Keep up the good work all.

Bye.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
problem

hi all. i have said this before...

im not using any overclocking etc. and using the 24-07 build. battery problem is still there but the funny thing is that the phone runs on 1% battery for 8 - 10 hrs. (i plugged it in after that). i think android is reporting the battery wrong. funny thing is that i also messes up the windows reporting if i reboot at 1%.

anyone else facing this????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toasty_:
Yes, I've recognized exactly the same. My phone turned of at 57% in WinMo and Android (After using Android for a while - and using USB for adb). If I plug it on the charger it starts charging at 57% too. First I thought my battery has reached the end of life, but after removing the batterie and putting it back everything works fine - the batteryicon shows 1% and it is charging (in WinMo and Android).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kanaziwok:
Hi,

I've just installed Android on my Kaiser.

But I don't know how to configure it with my operator.

I'm french and I use my kaiser on the Bouygues Telecom network.

That's the informations I've found about the connections setings, but I don't where to put it, because when I go in Wireless Seting then Mobile Network setting and Access Point Names there is nothing and I can't do anything on this page ...

Maybe, I haven't configure well the default.txt file on my SD card.

Is there somebody for help me please ?

Thank you very much.

Faithfully,

KaNa.