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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sisqo:
03/01/09 is the latest version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
applied (still using lgorris's account - gotta figure out what's up with that :P ).

Also - it seems the batter only gets screwed up in winmo when android's allowed to drain all the way down.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
Headset

Whenever I use the headset in my kaiser to listen to music the battery get extremely hot so today I tried shutting down all apps but still leaving the headset inserted and it still gets extremely hot.

Have you experienced this problem too and is their a way to fix it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
and this doesn't happen in winmo?

sounds more like a hardware problem than a software..

unless we're pulling the data pins high when we aren't supposed to..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
On the htc_h2w driver on the g1 code it says exactly that if you don't disable data when headset is plugged in you get more than 50mA of drain... so it really might be that :)

Unfortunately we can't leave the CPLD as UART3 while a headset is plugged
in, UART3 is pullup on TX but the headset is pull-down, causing a 55 mA
drain on trout.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
yea i noticed the same thing even when my phone is not being charged and is in standby it sometimes is pretty warm. Also is it me or does the keyboard lights never turn off? Cause when the phones in standby the outside buttons are always off, but my keyboard continues to stay lit, that must be draining my battery big time.

* Still using build 03-01-09 =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
Headset

No it never happened while i was in windows mobile i dunno if its the driver thats causing this or not.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
Keyboard lights

Yeah if the phone is open the keyboard lights stay on no matter what but if you close the phone and barely slide it open n look in the crack u will see they r off but as soon as it opens the slightest bit they turn on
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
I tried the newest build and my phone continuously connecting to the internet is annoying because it drains my battery. is there a way to disable this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
#1: turn it off with togga.

#2: I don't think it matters for battery drain - these builds just are bad until we can turn off all the extra junk we turn on (aka, I think when you disconnect, the wireless connection is still on, it just isn't "dialed" in..)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
the weird thing is i turn it off with togga, then it comes back on :confused::confused:

my battery used to last all day, i dont think it will last 6 hours like this :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WizRd:
Settings - Wireless Controls - Mobile Networks - Use only 2G networks.

This might assist with improving the battery life, however depending on your network this could cause you to roam and obtain a huge data bill. I haven't tried it, but it may be of assistance.

I would more than likely think your battery is on its way out or Android hasn't had a chance to "calibrate" the battery level.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Yeah, didn't think of that. Sorry, and you are right to complain. Take the attached initrd and try it. It looks for ppp.apn kernel cmdline parameter, and only starts autoconnect when it is present. Thus, your problem should be solved when you remove that parameter from your default.txt.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
android-1.1-01-03-09 and dutty WM6.1 WWE

android-1.1-01-03-09

tried with radio 1.71.09.01 and with dutty supplied 1.65.14.06 wm6.1 radio

neither worked on boot

I booted 2-8-09 android on 1.65 radio and it was fine but did not have a lot of the latest changes. connected to internet and media player was great. played media player and game at same time with not a bump for a while.

hope this helps

can someone who has a working 1-01-03-09. What rom and radio are you using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Thanks. actually, it doesn't work like it is in git, but I have a correctly working version now. Will post in some hrs. I couldn't find a way to register at linuxtogo, what's the trick?? Am I just blind?

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
android-1.1-01-03-09 and dutty WM6.1 WWE

I have found that the only way i can get android to boot is to

connect data in windows mobile before hand with internet explorer than run haret.

Still can't get data connection. Togga is not responding. APN is setup with AT&T.

Camera does not work in Android. Phone works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
got data connection

EXCITING, IT WORKS

disabled hsdcpa in win

connected to internet

ran haret

set att apn

rebooted

used this default text below

loaded android

used togga (after a few boots it worked)

working:

gmail

contacts

youtube (watched a few videos)

browser (went to few websites)

map (although it says i am in california on the highway- I live nowhere near california)

market (terms of service filled out and downloading 5 free apps now to my phone)

apps: yellow book works

my default.txt:

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"

set cmdline "ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1 board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 pm.sleep_mode=4 mddi.width=312 mddi.height=416 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"

boot

details:

android-1.1-01-03-09

rom: Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2_1_65.14.06_CubeV2_.zip

radio: 1.71.09.01
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
Headphone jack not working though

Just wanted to add that the headphone jack does not work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drutort:
or you simply go to shut down, and then turn on your phone and it boots to wm :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Make sure you check www.androidonhtc.com as is has the latest releases. (Also one with working headset - not for calls though).

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bravekid20:
Tilt on Android Office

Does the mobile office suite work after have using android on WM6.1

I heard that if you use android on WM, the office suite stops working.

Is it True? Please let me know

Thank You,

Bravekid20
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Ok guys, here's a new kernel. Improvements: Better battery capacity defaults (KAIS160 std battery should work fine), reliable charging detection (it'll show charging as long as the charger/USB is connected).

Glitches: charging may not be detected when Android boots up. Just unplug and replug the charger if you want to see it. Actual charging still happens even when it may not be shown in Android.

Hope you have fun... As the upload here in the forums is quite stupid, I will host my releases over here: http://gigatron.de/.android/

Stefan

P.S.: the DS2746 driver now squirts out the values of the AUX inputs (value and resistance relative to 10kOhm resistor). If anyone wants to monitor the AUX0 resistance (number in brackets) and provide a formula on how to calculate temperature - go ahead. It is a negative correlation - the resistance goes down as the temp goes up. For me, room temp is about 1.4 to 1.6 kOhms.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
What? where did you hear this? Windows mobile office still works after using android, idk where u got this faulty info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Ok, now anyone else unsatisfied with the functions of the hardware keys in Android? It has bugged me right from the beginning, so I changed it. Normally, the mapping should be changed in the Linux kernel, but I did it differently: I changed /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl. (See attached file). Now it looks like that:

The functions in brackets work when you hold the button for a while.

What do you think? I find that so much more usable than the other layout. Two menu keys means it is usable for lefties and righties. "DPAD Center" means, it is currently programmed as the same function like the button right in the middle of the left/right/up/down keys. The (ok)-Key on the keyboard is also currently mapped to this same function.

Tip: try the "Alt" key with some of the keyboard keys - it gives nice extra characters.

The buttons left need to be adjusted in the kernel source code, also power and jogdial do not yet work (dunno why, will look into it maybe).

Have fun testing. I put a modified system-keylayout.img on my server (http://gigatron.de/.android) so you can test (it should have finished uploading in about 20min). Remember to rename it to system.img when you copy it to your SD card.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
voltage request

I will figure out the equation ifyou can giveme instructions on where to find the data. Good with math but really not togood asa programmer.

Can you tell me where to look for the data?

By theway, what a great job you guys are doing. It is really incredible.

Thanks

J
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
error on gmail

i am getting an error abouta forced shut down now on gmail. Any thoughts?

Did everything the same and got connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] electronixtar:
Hi guys,

From my last thread:

Is it possible to dual boot Windows Mobile and Android if I installed two ROM's on my Kaiser/TyTN II? Like we do with OS on PC's ?

Why there isn't something like GRUB out there? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WizRd:
No you can't you need to boot into WM first, then using Haret boot android.

And from the title of the thread, no you can't flash two ROM's onto your Kaiser, or any other phone for that matter.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WizRd:
Try going into settings and applications and clearing the gmail data and starting again. I'm not 100% sure this will work, but in other cases it has.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wornbat:
No Internet

I have determined the issue with the no internet with the new Images

It has not set any DNS servers. How do you set the DNS servers in Android?

If I connect to the Ip address instead of the hostname the Internet works. If I do an NSLOOKUP in terminal there is no DNS servers set.

How to setup DNS server settings in Android?

Why is it not detecting it from my APN when it was in earlier images? zImage from 27/02/09 works any later does not work.

Wombat
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] electronixtar:
Got it, thank you!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
Problem with gmail on a few different versions

Hi,

I got couple android versions to work but since I replaced the version that was able to sync successfully= I replaced with newversion that has headphone access but the new version does not sync. I get this error (after I run Togga successfully ) and try to setup gmail:

"The application Gmail (process com.google.android.gm) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."

I can not find a place to clear out the old gmail files in android. Can't find it in root of sd. The factory reset does not work.

Any thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
To me if the headphone doesn't work for calls, "then it doesn't work" after all, this is a phone. I really like the feel of Android, and the work that has been done by the programmers here, is amazing, once the headphone issue is fixed I can see using this as the default mode for my phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Yeah, I agree. We have to ask AngryUndead to look into that. *pretty please* :D

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Open a terminal (or press Fn and left softkey on keyboard) and type

dmesg

You will see some entries like

ds2746: 4103mV 178mA charge: 84/100 (3425 units)
aux0: 354 (2065) aux1: 15 (60)

The value in brackets after aux0 (in this example 2065) is the resistance in Ohm. The formula should involve some logarithmics, I'm sure there are some generic formulas for thermistors. Also, three data points should be enough.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Try projects.linuxtogo.org, create an account and join the mobile-linux project.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wornbat:
Anyone have any idea why the latest images wont detect the DNS servers of my APN?

I can only access the internet after starting TOGA and using IP addresses instead of FQDN

does anyone know how to set the DNS settings in Android so that I can get Internet or why it is not detecting DNS?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
That worked, great, thanks. Only thing is that the site is soooo slooooow right now :-/ I will bother you later by PM about a git question maybe ;)

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jdfjunk:
Android working with Internet

Despite the fact that I replaced all the files in root for Android, nothing will sync now with gmail. It did before, Togga, contacts, market and everything worked.

Is this a Android software issue? Is there a cache that I can clear or settings to start from scratch on the synch?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] p-de-geus:
I have a HTC branded kaiser with T-mobile (dutch) as provider.

Android is detecting which provider i have but it doesnt get service, seeing No Service all the time.

anybody got the march version working with T-mobile(dutch)?

I really love the touch of android, so much smoother than Windows mobile:).

The guys working on this are doing an amazing job. when it runs stable and phone/data is working for me i will definitely going to use it:):).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Screen Resize

It seems that the screen resize commands don't work anymore in the Latest Nightly Build of on:

http://android.ace-com.cz/kernel/

The default resolution, although very crisp, does not work well for most programs. Including all built in apps like GMAIL, Contacts, ETC.

I believe this function should be left in by default.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Well, I didn't know that. THANX
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Make sure your pm.sleep_mode is set to 1 or, if you use newest experimenting build, omited completely from kernel command line. In my case I saved old default.txt with pm.sleep_mode=0 in it, as a result my Kaiser was dying within 12 hours after full charge. Now, after I changed it to pm.sleep_mode=1, it came close to live span under WinMo, despite internet connection being always on and periodicaly synchronising with my gmail account.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Nightly builds are not up and running now, server is turned off for a while and I am not able to do anything about that, cause I am in hospital (those bloody bastards did not like something on my EKG even through that makes no sence to me :D:D:D )...

Hope to be back soon to fix that up..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Ok, this insanely huge thread is annoying, so I just keep you up to date that I created a new thread this time: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=494711

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Thanks, Stefan, nice! I like new layout, seems to be indeed more intuitive and logical. Found though that TAB doesn't work anymore as before - it has now same function as PTT key, altering characters on keyboard. WIN key doesn't do anything except for lighting up Cap and Fn LEDs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] electronixtar:
Hi guys, my SP is filtering user-agent, Android browser can not open any webpage, is there anyway that I could modify the Android browser User-Agent?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Munchys:
Okay this is a little strange, I was never able to get anything working with the Android on my phone, I am using the 03/01/09 version. Some how I changed a setting in the default.txt and I got internet working, YAY! :p But then I wanted to see if making a phone call works, that does not still. I sent me a text message from www.txt2day.com just testing it out, and that works, but still no phone calls, Now I just dont know if I am doing something wrong for the phone to work or not, but any advice on that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
As i said a few weeks ago, i drive a half of the day, and i need a bluetooth hands free, so i'm using Android in the weekend and WM the rest of time.

Could any of you, devs, try to enable the bluetooth device? Dzo said that it should be easy to enable it. Please... :o

Anyway, thanks all for doing this for us, your efforts are very appreciated. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
Not to be insensitive, but begging for priority on bluetooth is not going to make ANYONE work any harder.

If you NEED bluetooth, either just use WinMo or buy an Android phone.

It will get done when it gets done...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
Ok. Thanks for your useful response...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
Hi all, I got the last commits from the git, and I thought I'd let you know a few things:

First, there was a file missing (android.h on include/linux/usb), I've pushed it to the git, but you may have to pull again.

Second, since the usb commit, and at least on htc Nike, I have to start linux WITH the usb wire connected on winmo, otherwise the kernel crashes. So, if you see your builds don't boot all the way (on my nike it gets stucked after mmc init), try with the usb connected first. On windows I see how it disables it on boot (it didn't do it before)

Regards!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
Does anyone else notice they Fn keys don't correspond to the symbols shown on the keyboard? (I'm talking about the @#!":;-_ )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
@biktor_gj: I think that's partially my fault, because I messed with git and dzo was forced to commit some of his experimental changes. I actually worked around that by commenting out the relevant parts in some file called ...msm...common.c (can't remember exaclty). Haven't tried booting yet.

@outsider787: Have you set your keylayout option? There is a boot option telling it whether you have a AT&T Tilt or a "standard" Kaiser.

@anyone who longs for bluetooth: I do as much as you, but dzo also mentioned it might not be that easy after all. We shall see.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
No problem seidler, just thought I would point that out in case someone is trying to boot and didn't know why it got stucked :)

About the bluetooth, system.img needs to be modified. I said that on one of my posts on the nike thread, but I'll say it here too: even if the code works (wich I don't know if it does by the way but I guess it doesn't, at least for the nike), the sdk system.img doesn't have the binary firmware image for the bluetooth (brf6300.bin on system/etc/firmware). I tried using a system.img from a g1 phone, but it crashed a lot. Tried replacing the libbluetooth and putting the firmware in place on the sdk, but it did exactly the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Hmm, but you just need to copy the brf6300.bin from the G1 system.img to a working system.img, don't you? Or maybe even just put it into initrd.gz, that would be even better I think.

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
Good call. Working now.

Thanks Stefan.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
I picked the last system.img I had laying around (03/01 version), dumped it, put the file on /etc/firmware, and created the new cramfs. The file is there, and from the android terminal I can see it, but, at least from android's wireless settings, the result is exactly the same as before. Error while trying to turn on bluetooth. I also patched the kernel so it powers up the bt clock and the bluetooth enable pins instead of defaulting to disabled, but... no go :)

I saw a command, hciattach, but still have to patch my keyboard driver to put commandline parametters, and haven't tried it yet (I don't have a key_minus key mapped). From what I've read, the command should be something like hciattach -n -s 115200 /dev/ttyXX [vendor] (or maybe it's not ;))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] p-de-geus:
I figured out why the phone/data part wasnt working.

I had the PIN of the SIM card enabled. Disabling this made it work.

As i dont want this standard because of security reasons, is there anybody who got it working with the PIN enabled? is wasnt able to find out how to get it working with PIN enabled.

As it was working with PIN disabled, i was able to make a call(tested it to call to my own number and got my voicemail.). The internet part was also working, i were able to brows. But when i want to set up my gmail account it isnt able to connect to the internet :S:S.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] herczyn:
security?

if somebody steals your phone it will be on right?

PIN protects you from nothing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
For now security is not done yet. Can't work with PIN, can't work with settings auxiliary network services like call forwarding etc.

I've had problems with gmail account, but after I've double checked all settings in APN and reset internet connection everything worked flawlessly. BTW, in Android username should be your full e-mail address, but usualy it automaticaly adds @gmail.com to your login.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
I hope you will be glad to hear that I just committed a patch that lets at least the backlight for the keyboard power down. After a set timeout, the light goes off, and it also goes off as soon as the display is powered down (if you left the keyboard open).

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
May be I'm doing something wrong, but I can't find any downloadable kernel files on neither two of mirrors listed on androidonhtc.com for nightly builds - http://android.ace-com.cz/kernel/ for some reason can't be open (can't ping neither), on Aximiliation I'm just getting empty black page w/o any links to any files in any browser. For now I can't make much use of my "Big Brother" to build system myself from git, so I have to use prebuild stuff. Can anyone guide me to info how to obtain most fresh builds? Tried to google it but to no avail. Even though I'm not very good at testing I still would like to test them and give as much feedback as I can, even if it means to use unstable system. Also, is there any bug tracking system for Android on Kaiser/Polaris/Vogue/etc? There is one on code.google, but that seems to be not so closely related to hardware support on HTC.