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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Tried a clean install with the latest ZIP (4/28) but the boot got hung up after trying to extract the new files. I tried it a couple times with the same result; crashes out and says Job Control Turned off. There was a lot more info; unfortunately didn't write it down.

I then reverted back to the old package from 2/22ish and replaced just the zImage and the System.img. Booted up fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ducamie:
thanks a lot dzo. working perfect on the nike.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Thanks DZO. It installed and booted just fine on Kaiser. It found the network as soon as it booted up. I set the APN through the welcome screen and still could not get signed into google. I skipped it and try to run togga manually, but still no luck. Will try to reboot and try again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Update: after reboot, togga did not start automatically. Once I started togga manually I was connected to internet and was able to sync.

When I call my mobile, it takes too long to ring, usually after the 4th or 5th tone it starts ringing. And when it rings the screen does not turn on. So I tried to turn it on manually and realized it crashed (got the console) but recovered quickly. After several try I was able to answer the phone (before it goes to voice mail) but now it is stock on the voice/call screen and doesnt let me hung up. I can switch the screens and bring up other application, but the call screen is hosed and doesnt let me hang up. I will reboot and try again...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] flipovich:
Gawd...this is awesome...loving the android os...thanks so much for the hard work...still trying to get my wifi working but aside from that perfect...thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
the new samsung android phone rocking the msm7200A

So if ya;ll havent seen yet--- it appears that the new samsung android phone will have the msm7200a chipset that alot of kaisers have---- (most have 7200, but some of the newer kaisers are sporting the 7200a chips i believe)

Will this help development for the kaiser at all?

also, i was wondering if i could help out in anyway with getting wifi off the ground, its the only thing that is keeping me from using my kaiser (no data plan cuz im traveling in eu)

who all is heading up the wifi charge??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] QAvatar:
Since the 4/22 build, I have to start togga manually also. It doesn't start automatically like it used to. Other things seem to be working great though.

The only problem I have now with Android is that after I open a few programs and bugger around for a while, it seems like starts to react slow, like the programs that I am leaving are still open in the back ground or something. Anways, that kills the battery too fast. If I charge it today at 5:00 PM, by tomorrow morning when it is time to wake up it will be dead again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
No, all Kaisers have the 7200. Some have the 7201, which is the same processor but slightly modified for patent issues. No Kaisers have the 7200A.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schettj:
Been away from this for a long while, but this brought me back - working great on an AT&T Tilt - data works if I have a connection in Winmo before HaRET, still need to run tonga to connect.

Alt keys are not mapped correctly on the tilt, trying to find out how to fix that. Would be really cool if wifi/bt worked. Can't tell if GPS works.

Pretty sweet though, everything *else* is working great, and it synced up with my google stuff like magic ;)

Well done all!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
For the tilt, set board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 in default.txt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Put this in your default.txt

board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schettj:
Yep, found the att tilt kbd option... now all good. Again, well done all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] trunks_ss2:
so confused:confused:

Ok i been trying for quite a while to get internet running on the android everything works fine just cant get internet access. I put in all the settings i started haret with the internet explorer on. do you have to swith or put something in the default.txt.

iam using this on my kaiser

(rom):Pda corner ultimate-x.2

radio:1.65.24.26
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skadamat:
I am running the same ROM as you and same radio and same phone (TILT). Did you just download the latest zip file and put them all in the root folder of your SD card? Cuz when I did that it says it can’t find data.img, and in the zip file there’s a data.gz but no data.img. What exactly did you do to get android to even boot up?

As for the internet (Android used to work a month ago), you have to put the correct proxies/addresses in the .txt file and the correct information in the network settings in Android. Go to configure data access on the androidonhtc.com site, and it’ll show u a link that displays the AT/T settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] trunks_ss2:
well i dont know what u mean how did i got it to boot up but i did put in the data acess from the att and yeah i did got the zip and ran it all i did just got the default-kaiser.text and rename it to deault text. were do i exatly put the prxoies/adress in the text. and the data.gz turns into tata.img when u tranfer it to the sd card trough usb cable doesnt it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] herczyn:
hey, great progress!

i have one question though:

i cant' sync with google, although i can use the internet but don't have the 3g icon.

any ideas? thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adlaw:
Did a clean install of the latest build and then copied my data file and default.txt over the created data file.

It is now working 100%
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dimarzzio:
I had the same problem when I first started android. Try this, use default-kaiser.txt as your bootscript (rename it to default.txt). Open that txt file and fill in your carrier's APN, username and pass in the field. Open haret and run android while the internet in WinMobile is connected. After android is running, set your carrier's internet setting in communication setting, delete existing APNs. The last step is open togga and initiate data connection from there. It works for me, good luck!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
Latest Build ZIP not Installing

I had the same issue with the latest zip build. I unzipped everything to my SDCard root, but it complained about not finding the data.img.

DZO mentioned simply copying the system.img and the zImage from the latest build, into whatever build you previously had working; I tried that and it worked like a charm.

I think there is simply an issue with the install.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dimarzzio:
which build are u using? try to use another bundle, maybe data connection is the problem. do you have the correct internet/APN setting?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dimarzzio:
if i'm not mistaken, the initial data.dz will be converted to data.img after the android boots up. and the file size of data.img will be much larger. CMIIW
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] herczyn:
the last one. but the internet is working, maps, browser - all is ok :)

except for google sync...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
After you get this message in the terminal, give it a minute or so to extract data.gz --> data.img, and then it will continue booting. It's just a first boot pause. You could also extract data.img on your PC and copy it over.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I hope this doesn't seem like an ignorant question, but what in Android actually makes use of the GPU?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] HexKrak:
I waited 10 minutes and nothing happened so I opened data.gz with winRAR and extracted it, then renamed it to data.img and transferred it to the root of the sd Card and it booted, without hesitation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] outsider787:
I had the same issue a while back. The data.gz was not extracted while booting. I too opened it in winrar, and extracted data.img from there. Worked like a charm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
we are using open gl es 1.1 under android... unlike 1.0 (which our device only supports in windows) only does software based rendering..that why those open gl drivers we have for windows doesnt use the GPU. While 1.1 is hardware based...so now its really using the GPU now..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] schettj:
I may be misreading USB support.... but enabling usb debugging and then connecting to a windows box running ddms, the device isn't showing up (yeah, I want a screenshot)

The device does charge off USB.

Sorry this is an AT&T Tilt/

Android 1.1 04/28/09 Build

Edit2: reread the various sites, looks like its not supported yet. Ok, moving on. Is there root access on these builds?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
Thanks for the info. I still can't figure out any benefits as of how the software is right now, though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
having 3d threw hardware should lower the memory usage when running a 3d app while getting better image quality and performance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] webvan:
So data is working ok for you? How did you configure it?

Installed the latest version on Death v4 and no problems booting, but got stuck in the "Maps" app, Kaiser frozen.

Strangely enough I had no SIM inserted but it still shows G and one bar. Anyway to activate wifi ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] g0mib0y:
Boots every time

Hi!

I'm using the below setup. Android boots every time and calling works like a charm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Don't lie. The data isn't working yet!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
Calls WORK!! :)

uuhhuuu!

Duttys' APR 29

1.58.25.17
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ib3x:
were can i find that spinning earth in android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ChumleyEX:
So this is an OS on a running OS? How fast is that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zoolooc:
Calling works both ways

I called my Kaiser from my landline, a popup showed, could only answer by the hardware buttons. After hanging up, I called back from the recent call list. BTW, how to dial any number from the dial-pad? Some said to add a contact first, but how? Audio was working in both calls, both way, but coming from the speaker, which leads to microphony.

This is all great progress, good work, guys, keep it up!

Just in case I'll update my signature if some WM ROM/radio worth upgrading comes along:

ROM: Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM

Radio: 1.58.26.20

Protocol: 25.70.30.05W
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Nope.

This is linux running on the HTC TYTN II, Haret is just used as a pseudo boot-loader to give it direct hardware access.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Goto contacts and press the windows button on the dpad, a little menu should pop up. Press add contact and fill out the info.

Appently the windows button is a sub-menu activator.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] _h4x0r_:
what sort of speed difference and battery usage are we looking at here compared to WM? My inclination is to think it would be better on both accounts.

Will be setting this up as soon as I get some free time...great work :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] fhteagle:
Testing Report

AT&T Tilt

HardSPL 3.28

Sakajati's HyperDragon IIIs (2008-06-24 release)

Radio 1.65.20.29

Using Haret pre-0.5.2

zImage and initrd from ~lgorris (2008-06-25 file dates)

Booted 3 out of 3

Calls:

Outbound to landline works through speaker

Inbound from skype line:

- works trough speaker after pickup

- send to voicemail results in dead air for the skype line and handset still "off hook"

I did receive one "android restart" event during testing, cant remember what kicked it off.

SMS:

Received SMS sent from http://www.google.com/sendtophone, shows up as unknown and number 000000, but the text did not go through. Did not cause android restart.

The following are lost after some "android restart" events (the red bouncing ball screen):

- GSM icon

- signal status

- ability to make calls

However, all of the above return after an incoming call is made. Should give some clues as to which AT commands are working or not, especially from a non-haret induced init
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] manimore:
downloading the new files

am i retarded how do i download the new files it opens them rather then downloading them.

nevermind i am retarded i got it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
Dcordes, what's the next step? What are people working on now? What's the news? How can we help ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
How do we compile apps?

Do we have to make a new zImage each time?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
until we have drivers for the sd card, there is a limit to the apps we can add. This is because haret won't boot really large zimages. So basically until there is sd card support, we have try to squeeze as much into the zimage as possible.

For the guy asking about the Dalvik VM. There might be some helpful info for you in the google I/O release report. I dont know that much about it, but they go pretty in depth in it. Here is a link-

http://androidguys.com/2008/06/20/google-releases-io-conference-videos-and-slides/

there is a bunch of other background info video's for android.

hope this was helpful, gl
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] onedutch:
Dialing in and out did not work :(

Radio 1.64.08.21

Using wm 6.1 dutty`s wwe

Greets Tom
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] greggerca:
I was able to call out on my Kaiser using the current stuff in the link provided.

The call worked through the speaker like everyone says. I don't think I can get data to work. I tried a few different data apps, but nothing worked.

I'm on Dutty's April 29th ROM with a 1.58.25.17 Radio.

I can't get Android to boot reliably. I had to re-copy the original files back to the device to try again. After that I got it to boot once more...

Strange.

Starting Maps the first time seems to cause a reboot. It does complain that the data network is down on the second try.

Anyhow, that was fun! Nice work!

TTFN
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KaiserLinux:
Not sure if this will help radio development but posted anywayz:

http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=1076

The Sierra 880 card uses msm7200(not sure if it is the one in Kaiser - lookin over it now)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
page not found
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
nothing new. Look at this crazy stuff http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/?q=kaiserledhack done by ginge :-) I hope he will also make up a write function using the keyboard light sensor. (ever noticed the small dot on the left of your kaiser's qwery?)

what's next? I think MMC and bluetooth. probably the data connection-will look at it personally tomorrow

@ KaiserLinux

that's interesting. it details on some AT commands. not sure what the driver.c does.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Not to mention the fact that most OpenGL apps won't run at all using the software renderer. I expect there will be plenty of cool OpenGL apps in the future.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
default txt

sorry i havent been around for awhilw can someone post their default txt for att tilt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wornbat:
DNS settings in Android

I tried DZO's new version of android today and it works well.

However I still have an issue with Android detecting the DNS server.

How do you setup the DNS settings in Android if you need to set a DNS server Manually for your APN?

I am able to manually fire up Terminal and do a setprop net.dns1 61.88.xx.xx as root and Internet works but every time the connection is broken this has to be done again.

This is very Frustrating. It all worked in March using /"/" in the default.txt then something was changed in initrd and it never has worked again. Using none as user/pass does not work.

When Android is fired up the 3G icon shows but I have to connect with TOGA. Once connected with TOGA it shows the outgoing arrow on the icon but no incoming. setting the property in terminal setprop net.dns1 61.88.xx.xx then gives both arrows and internet works.

Can anyone give me any ideas on how to set the DNS Manually or to script the setprop command?

Wombat
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
problems with new build

1) keyboard lights do not turn on with slid out 2) cannot get togga to connect...(suspecting a default txt problem?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mystrorc:
Google apps crash

I am also having this problem. This has started happening to me since the 4/22 build. I have been keeping up with the great work the devs have been doing since Feb., but this is the first time this started happening to me.

I started from a clean install, by the way.

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aggarath:
Togga uses your APN information, so it's not the default.txt. That is only used for the browser and maps. On http://www.androidonhtc.com you can find your APN information (and from it you can derive your default.txt).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slyoldfox:
I have this too after the clean install (following the wizard), however after a reboot those apps work well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
AH...now that is a benefit! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anaethelion:
I've reinstalled android a few times with the new package that dzo's provided, but still no luck, android boots up fine but whenever i try to start some 3D app it crashes and reboot the phone.

I've tried several settings in the defaults.txt but i don't clearly understand why it doesn't work at all, am i the only one ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
Striped screen issue and USB internet connect

Thanks to everyone for all the hard work,

I have one issue and one question:

Issue:

Striped screen. It happens frequently when I turn of the screen (by pressing “end call”) and then wake it up by hitting “windows menu key”.

I read somewhere it should hbe solved with newer zimages, but in my experience it is not the case. I have repeatedly updated all files of the Android installation, and the striped screen issue continues to appear (not every time, but frequently).

The stripes that appears have changed colour and shape with different zimages …

Question:

With the work on the USB connection, is it possible to connect to the internet through a USB connect with a PC connected to the internet? If so how (I have not been able to do that)?

I don’t have a data plan at the moment, and android isn’t a lot of fun without internet connection…

Thanks all,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hellmasterita:
I have issues with received text message's dates.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
try changing "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0" in default.txt to =1 =2 or =3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
settings > date & time > uncheck "automatic" > choose right time zone > set time
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
future plans

Hey dzo -

your work on this project constantly amazes me. thanks for all your time and effort. any chance you could lay out your plans for future development for those of us who don't have the coding skills to contribute to this project? what are you looking at next? how do you decide what problem you are going to fix? i'm just trying to pry a little bit into your mindset. i want to learn from you guru... of course if you prefer to work in mysterious ways and just release your updates as you finish them, i understand that too.

and i am not trying to ignore the rest of you developers who have contributed to this great project, i just really appreciate the constant amazing progress that dzo seems to be making for us all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Thanks for the complements, actually most of the credit needs to go to the team at Google, especially Brian Sweatland who seems to have written most of the code himself.

I really don't know what I'll do next, I've been on a break from work for a couple of weeks so had some spare time to get the GPU working. I was very surprised when it worked as well as it does. I am busy again this week so I won't be able to spend as much time on this as I have been recently.

I reckon bluetooth should be quite easy, also pcm sound input would be nice. It may be possible to get the GPS working by implementing an rpc translation layer for libgps but thats not so easy and could be a waste of time if the rpc calls are different. The kernel wifi interface should be working but it looks like it needs some different initialisation that we're not doing so that could be easy or hard.

Thanks,

Martin
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
1 enthusiastic vote for Bluetooth! Its the only thing keeping me from using Android full time. I love my stereo bluetooth headphones and can't do without.

Is pcm sound input what would enable dial by voice, search by voice, and voice memo? If so that sound great too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rippir:
I agree :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aerok:
Hey guys, I find this project amazing!

I succesfully installed Android, internet works fine and sms works fine.

Only problem I have is when I call, it hangs up automatically before anything and nobody can reach me.

I have the latest radio and am currently running PDAcorner Ultimate X
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
Internet connection

Hey guys I'm on the new built with an AT&T tilt. I got Internet connection with all other builds except this one. My apn info is the same as always and I believe my default txt is the same. I'm using 1.71.09 radio. What could be the problem? Can some post their txt incase mine is really not right
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] danielbmarshall:
Hear Hear! All that's left is finding his favorite liquor and a shipping address.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ppamungk:
Android 1.5

Have anyone starting to port the v1.5 yet? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Markinus:
Camera on kaiser

hey!

the camera in doesn't work on kaiser and I'm looking for the difference between the s5k4b1fx and the s5k3c1fx from kaiser.

I've the data sheet from s5k3c1fx from kaiser but not the otherone. Does someone have the data sheet from s5k4b1fx for the difference. dzo meybe you??

Markinus
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] coincoinlapin:
I vote for Cupcake 1.5 as the next objective. 1.1 is already history :p GoooOOOO :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
I also vote for bluetooth as priority number one and GPS right after that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I actually used the s5k3c1fx data sheet to do the s5k4b1fx driver since it was all I could find, they seem quite similar.

Best thing to do is just trace i2c accesses when turning on the camera and copy that.