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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Now that starts to be really good, even through it took me more than hour to import my contacts from Outlook to Gmail, because it was not aware of the CZ version settings, now I have all my contacts in Android, to that's where it starts to be cool for everyday use.

If we would be able to make all the drivers (wifi, BT, Camera etc) working, it will be winning choice... By the way, how can I get there any ICQ or Skype Client? And what about GPS program after GPS will be running?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rash1981:
Great work to the devs, DZO, PolyPoly and whomeever i've forgotten. een following this stuff since .8 was ported and must say it sure has come a long way!

still need to find my puk code to unlock my sim pin though, so haven't been able to make any calls yet.

<MinorOpinion> I'd love to have the GPS funcionality; i use google-maps regularly under winmo to go places i have never been. It's my little tomtom actually (which doesn't keep blabbing away).

I even bought the kaiser specifically for the gps function.

Although increased bluetooth compatibility wouldn't hurt either.</MinorOpinion>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I'm curious about that as well, because current performance in the hvga version has really gone down the drain comapred to the cupcake... It hangs a lot, is not responsive... Sometimes starts to remind me of WinMo...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] devonian69:
Can't you just hit 'skip'?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sisqo:
yes, sorry about that, didn't see the skip button, great work, thank you alot for the great work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Side Note: It appears the task manager app no longer works... (I guess there is no longer root access)

Sucks...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Not true, I've used it few times to kill the app and it was working nice for me.

Well I've found meebo (asking me for update from Market, but that does not work because we cannot donwnolad) and Skype (Beta) that I've just installed from the SD card using AppInstaller.

Is there a way to download apps by PC and put then to SD as with those we already have?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
I have one more question, why is the keyboard mapped differently, than normaly in WinMo? What I mean is for example, when I pres Fn+C it should write : (that's what is written on my keyboard) but instead it writes =
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Add

To your kernel command line in the default.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
That is what I have there :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Kaiser01:
All pictures and music shown from sd card

Great work! Latest experimental release from dzo is the first one that reads all pictures and music from my sd card. In other versions only parts of them where shown in Music and Pictures applications. Keep on!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
That usually works for me... but crashes after a while...

Have a ton of music and photos on my card (6gb)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Of Course...

board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 means AT&T Keyboard = true

so I set it to board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0 and now it works as it should :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Im testing this newer build now. Left the older one on overnight and it dies rather quickly (battery) so my guess is the power collapse is broken in this build at the moment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] itsjapie:
Hey everyone!

Nice last build. Everything seems to work beautifully. Upgrading my radio to 1.71.09.01 stopped the random hangings from Haret. Only thing not working correctly anymore is making/receiving calls. The GSM network meter at the top does work and it looks like the signal drops to 0 at random. This causes my calls to abruptly end. Someone noticed the same problem (I believe to have the same setup as you A.S.J. - only the SPL differs)?

My ROM is the HyperDragon IV IOLite (latest)

Thanks in advance!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] krisje8:
Well done dzo, your latest build seems to work quite nice (android-kaiser-21-02-09.zip).

However, please do get the screen back as to how it was in the other builds.

Although we have more 'space' on our screen now, all images look misshapen (how would the pictures taken with the camera look for example), and the text from the terminal (my soon-to-be most used tool on android) is unreadable.

@DZO:

This just makes my haret stop loading after 100%.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
so...

youtube's audio works, video does not.

gmail doesn't work, email with my gmail account works.

acid3 dropped about 20 points (many it seems because of the slowdown)

It keeps internet on constantly, which kills battery (togga it off, and it doesn't come back on automatically, but it uses a little less power, maybe).

market loads but doesn't download...

We should definitely work on getting the keyboard layout in-android better - i.e. remap red key to home, get browser and messaging keys to work, get power button to work, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] agentofboom:
My location is tracking someone else?

New DZO build...

On maps turned on "My Location"

Im in Southern CA...Im watching it track someone go up the 101 in PALO ALTO?!?! (thats 5-6 hours north of me)

Huh?

I didn't change my default.txt or anything. It has the proper att/cingular settings in APN settings too...

Is it seeing my SIM as somone elses or is this just an animation for someone at google?

Seems to be driving up and down the 101...

huh?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Sweet i'm back in Cali too! Maybe I can get my wallet back while i'm here.... :D

Actually I think it is just in "Demo mode" so to speak.

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This version includes latitude... nice update. :D

I have a few more crashes with these versions, but I kind of expected that.

Contacts are sycing now, gmail crashes, the "G" icon appears as soon as you enter proper apn settings.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Bartuk:
i dont think its the powercolapse, its the wlan that is initialized at boot and turned on + i think that android also initializes bluetooth when booting (noticed that when sitting on my laptop, i use BlueProximity to lock my ubuntu laptop, and it locks the screen when i turn of android...)

so with bluetooth and wlan on all the time its no surprise that it dies very fast.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Raketemensch:
Stereo bluetooth is key for me too. Just so you know you're not alone :] Of course, there's still no way to listen to Pandora in Android yet, so that may be a moot point.

Devs will fix stuff in the priority that makes sense to them, tho. Personally, GPS and BT are more important than wifi, but I'll just shut up and take whatever I can get :o

Looks like there's a decent podcast client tho:

http://theappleblog.com/2009/01/08/daily-apple-pandora-doctors-android-home-palm-returns/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
How did you import all your contacts from outlook into gmail?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Export your contacts in Outlook to CSV file, comma separated.

Log in Gmail, go to Contacts and import them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
somebody has success booting with the latest code in git? it freezes at 100% for me. here's a build http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/kernel/kaiser/zImage-htckaiser-20092002-00

btw, should we change the orientation of the qwerty arrow keys?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
Gmail

Gmail didn't work for me at first, but after I rebooted Android the Gmail app synced and picked up my mail no problem
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] agentofboom:
ok good.

I kinda felt bad and was wondering how the f*** i changed the sim thru software.

didnt think so, but scared me for a second.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] devonian69:
Battery life is not the greatest. I started off this morning with 85% and did not really use it except for a few txt msgs and to try out Shazam (been too busy to do much more with it). It died about an hour ago - lasting approx. 5.5 hours. I am charging the phone back up since I want to mess around with it this evening.

Were you able to get the internet to work from a 3G location? I just setup the APN in the setup screen and restarted - booted up with internet. Gmail, calendar, contacts all synced up. Someone posted the at&t settings - I think they are the same ones you gave me a while back.

What apps have you tried and gotten to work? (Shazam said the service was unavailable.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
git didn't build for me either - I thought it was a problem on my end :P

And no, the directions are supposed to be like that... it's relative to the "up" position, not the current position (notice the external arrow keys stay that direction when opened.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Lots of messages fly across the screen but it boots for me.

The messages are something like "[ 47.234523] sleeping 0" (the first number set counts up)

Trying it one more time just to be certain. Once at the android logo it seems to boot pretty quick for some reason.

On 3rd boot it runs then reboots, and no longer boots. (on its reboot that is, it will boot otherwise)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] itsjapie:
Kernel from git boots here aswell.. I also have the sleep messages during boot. (looks like debug output ?). Unfortunally still having the GSM problems (earlier builds had this fixed :()
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I use the google calendar sync app for calendar & contacts from outlook -> gmail.

http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955

Also use google sync for winmo.

http://www.google.com/mobile/default/sync.html

And now Android has all contacts as well! And all vice versa... Sweeeeet!

Gmail app works, mail works, confirmed on the music & pics upgrade. Youtube has issues.

Will try dcordes´ zimage now..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
downloads

could the problem with downloads be that it is running form a single partion on the sd card?

I say this because in gmail, i tried to preview an .rtf file attached to the email.

It says

"fetching attachment" then

"a memory card is required to download attachments."

so i went to settings/SD card &phone storage, my sd card is listed with total space and available space accurately portrayed, but it is unable to be unmounted/ejected.

one other note, i just recieved a call, could not hear (not sure if i was heard) and could not hang up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Noticed the email attachment thing too... was wondering about that as an issue...

(Calls working fine for me... just uncontrollably LOUD!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
Wifi

Wondering if dzo is working more on wifi becuase i dont have a data plan and wifi support would be great or maybe internet through usb from computer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
With the latest build it connects fine to internet (eithout Togga), but I am having hard time signing on to google. Anybody else having the same issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
first call I received = fail. No audio at all.

Calls after that = loud, but controllable with the softkeys (mapped to volume up and down)

One person noticed the echo... I didn't...

gmail app still doesn't work.

My Location in maps doesn't work.

youtube video doesn't work (but audio is fine) still.

any ideas as to why the external keylight CPLD commands are not working? I tried them out as a test in other parts of the kernel - no workie.

Also... power collapse needs some work - too powerhungry.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
@ sheytoon, android for me connects every time, but sometimes when trying to log in (the first boot that is) it seems to delete the password I put in and uses the default (whatever that is)

so for me i input the correct apn settings, once the "g" icon appears I go and log in, sometimes it says incorrect password, but i just do it again and it works.

I have been able to get it all to work through setting up about 4 times.

*note this is a bit of an offtopic rant*

yuck paid apps are now in the market.... now eveyone has to pay 0.99$ just to try one of the 500 fart apps. If the majority of applications were more mature (as in feature and usability wise) it would be better. Apps like last.fm and myspace are done pretty well. but the rest (though not all) are horrid at this early of a point in androids life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
okay, you guys are going to think I'm crazy, but...

I had the idea that perhaps the radio<->OS interface was a bit different between Dream and Kaiser, and this was cauing the stock RIL to not work very well... so I decided to flash a Dream radio...

I downloaded http://www.modmygphone.com/files/firmwares/radio_rc33.zip , took the .img file, figured it was the same as a .nb, and used yang to make a .nbh. Flashed this using the sd card method, and rebooted, expecting Winmo to work, but have bad radio functions, and android to work amazingly... surprisingly, it seems to act just like any other radio...

Plus, the versioning is such that I forget whether it's the same as my old radio or not - could be. Says 1.65.25.18, but again, I don't know if that's the version of the previous radio that was on here...

So.... what did I do, exactly?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
You're crazy. :rolleyes:

Sounds interesting though. Isn't the 1.65.25.18 one of the radios that work best with Android too?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
dont get me wrong, the internet connection works just fine, but when I want to connect to google servers, it fails. I keep getting "can not connect to google servers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Ok this sounds really interesting, but Poly could you describe better in words what works better or amazingly hehe..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
*puts on Capt. Obvious outfit*

Sounds to me like you just flashed a radio.

*takes off Capt. Obvious outfit*

(hey, someone had to do it. :o)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
Same here, the screen looks all fuzzy, I tried to change it the way you said, it stops loading at 100%
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
try this in ur default.txt

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000
set RAMADDR 0x10000000
set FBDURINGBOOT 0
set MTYPE 1553
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"
set cmdline "ppp.apn=live.vodafone.com ppp.username=vodafone ppp.password=vodafone pm.sleep_mode=1 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=480 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"
boot

[edit] Damn I was reading with my asshat on, thought u ment it wasnt booting at all :P, oh and btw im using pm.sleep_mode=1 and no vertical lines :D Go dzo u tha man
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] iPirate:
I'm not sure what happened but my battery life is awful with the latest build :( :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
well, it probably has something to do with a. the always-on data, and b. the fact that we turn on power to the wifi early, and never shut it down.

I remember the emo radio used to drain major battery on wifi usage...

Anyway, it seems the radio that I was previously using was 1.65.21.19... this is in fact a brand new radio version.

Though it's going well in winmo, it seems I'm having nothing but trouble with android - can't get a data connection, if I leave gps on, it gives me a ton of RPC errors, etc.

Does anyone have a link to the STOCK (on-G1) ril?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
This is a WILD ASS GUESS, but are the people who are able to get the Google Syncing to work using T-Mobile as their provider by chance?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AciDCooL:
Nah im using vodafone and all is well.. Have u setup ur google acount properly first time android booted?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
Thats just it, I try setting it up the first time it boots and it just eventually times out. All other features seem to be working fine however as I can browse/call/sms
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dessie:
Google maps

Just a question... Is there some kind of demo in Google Maps? Because if i use My Position i get a moving position somewhere in CA :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
What you are seeing is your gps signal has intersected with one from a local of California. Who likes to drive pointlessly around the 101 at all times of the day and night, and also randomly teleports at times. :cool:

J.k of course, it is a demo when you use the my location feature right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
With the newest build i experienced bad battery life,text message time stamps where ahead by 5/6 hours and with calls some times people can hear me,sometimes not.lol and when someone calls me ill answer and talk for about 15 secs and the phone hangs up. haha oh well:)

And i left android running last night when i went to bed, woke up twice and it had the android screen, where it says android and hes glowing, couldnt do anything from there;had to pull the battery

Everything else is fine that i noticed:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
you setup time zone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
Nope, but it was weird my actual clock was exactly right on, like on the home screen, but my text time stamps where off, ill try the time zone setup thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I had the same problem. For some reason it thinks it is on GMT 0 i think it is called. My system time is set correctly, but my messages come though at the GMT time (+5 hours from where im at)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
I know I'm gonna hafta pull my post from about 10 pages ago, but with dzo's experimental image, I'm actually able to *make* and *receive* phone calls. I've done testing with ending the call from my home phone & from my Tilt, everything's good. I wonder if it's because I had to "associate" my Google account using this image, or because I'm using a 1GB card. I'm going to do some more tests with my original sd card I was using for Android originally. I'll post results later.

Great work dzo. I agree with most/everyone else about the "fuzziness" onscreen, but I'll give that up for actual usability. More to come later. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
I have the same issue. All my events in the calendar synced, but were 5 hours ahead! I remembered that the previous build (basically the same with no syncing) had the time zone set to GMT. I'm on Eastern time, GMT -5. I went and changed the time zone and that moved the clock back 5 hours. I set the correct time and all is well.

The funny thing is, when I booted back into WinMo, the clock was several hours off (more than 5 I think). Then this morning I noticed that winmo was a day ahead (sun 22, it's sat 21)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
Same with me. Now that I have at least one build that works, I'm gonna work backwards and see how that goes. Maybe I can make a "patchwork" of files that'll continue to work like dzo's experimental.

Too bad I don't know linux like that... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
Clock issues

Ok, it seems that Android uses the time in WinMo as GMT. I had my time set correctly in winmo, but when I booted into android it was 5 hours earlier
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tilt1414:
so i guess im not the only one experiencing clock problems..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Great observation, good work in making the Dutch look silly...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dessie:
This remark sure helps...

I was just pointing out that it is a _moving_ position. That Google maps can't locate me is fine, but just "driving" around is not what i suspected. And thats the reason i asked if it got a demo mode (without displaying it)

But now back on-topic !

Is there a wiki or something that explains how to build everything? I can not find it in the sources mentioned in the first post. And ofcourse how to debug this thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I was having those problems, I disabled the automatic time and set the time and time zone manually I also tried turning the automatic time back on afterwards but it didn't work so until ts fixed I wil just leave it set manually
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
I love the extra screen resolution in the latest release, but is there anyway to keep the hvga resolution but make it sharper? like a virtual resolution tweak?

And looking forward to when we can connect to google sync!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
not sure how to do that - which pixels do we drop, where do we put them, etc.

I'd personally like the notifications bar a bit bigger...

I think we should go QVGA, then simply emulate HVGA for apps that need it - a software approach.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
I agree with Poly. Because some elements are too small it isn't userfriendly anymore compared to previous versions. And, as some people said already, the new version decrease the performance.

But I like the step which is made and a lot of programs are working well (except Google Market, unfortunatly).

Does Haret hangs also on the kaiser when you change the resolution in default.txt to 240x320? On the Polaris it does!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biktor_gj:
Maybe it's a bit stupid, but how about resolution changing on the fly? Whenever an hvga app starts shut down the panel and restart it with the fb resize functions enabled, and when it ends go back to native mode... But maybe that would need extensive patching on android too...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
We definitely do need to patch up android... the requirements for the two devices just aren't the same.

We need triggers for all the extra buttons, better QVGA support, we've already needed correct rotation....