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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
thx for the reply

so it's WM6.1 now

rom : 3.28.406.0 FRE

date 05/02/08

radio : 1.65.16.25

protocole : 25.83.40.02H

Files on SD are :

default.txt, default-panel2.txt, default-panel3.txt, haret.exe, hero.user.conf

initrd.gz, ion.user.conf, resources.zip, rogers.user.conf, rootfs.img

system.sqsh, zImage-NewKeymap, zImage--OldKeymap

oups this is all

thx again

BR
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Ah, there you go. You need to rename one of the zImages (either old or new keymap) to just "zImage" Also, you need to unzip the "resources.zip" onto your sdcard (should unzip into "media" folder).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
Ok thx I will test it and keep u informed

thx again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
my IM app doesnt even start lol :\
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
No problem with it starting for me (xRom 1.5r4), but for whatever reason it looks at the SIM card for a phone number...I have no idea why it would do that in the first place. :-( I'm wondering if these applications work differently on the vogue? Maybe that is why they weren't cleaned out of the builds? It just annoys me having non-working applications installed that I can't uninstall! I shouldn't complain though, its pretty amazing what the devs have managed to accomplish! I <3 Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
I did it and I have the same problem

I had a directory named applications with a lote of files in it.

and I saw some error where hero starts !! does hero reads stuff from applications folder ?

anyway when I remove it goes more than before but still I have the black screen with the linux Logo and a lot of logs. and it hungs here .. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
it does read from "AndroidApps" I don't know whether or not it reads an "applications" folder or not... How long did you wait before you decided it is hung as opposed to loading?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carlosdayas:
New android 1.6

Have any of you tried the last build from vogue hero, the android 1.6?

I used it with the basefiles 20090915 but it doesn't start wifi, and I can't access the apn's either. Also, when I try to check my sim, it shows some weird contacts I don't have, but actual names!

I have a kaiser msm7201 running on tpc elite v11 (windows 6.5) and my radio is 1.59.46.12.

This is not the first build I haven't been able to access the apn, so it may be that I'm doing something wrong here. I use the default.txt from natalic, initrd.gz, rootfs, user.conf and Zimage (the one that comes named like that) from base files 20090915 and the system-cmsdk.img renamed to system.sqsh

Hope you can help me with this, thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
Can't Boot

False alarm, got it... please ignore.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
use system.sqsh + the latest basefiles
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
anyone know what version of Cyanogen the latest android 1.6 system.sqsh on vogue hero is based upon?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
It's based on the sdk 1.6 version.

uses some parts of the latest cyanogen to complement that, since donut is still missing stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
well...attempting to boot it now...we'll see what happens... i wish that I could remove "advanced launcher" from the latest xRom, as that is the ONLY thing i don't like about it... oh well...its also fun to try a new system image every few days! :-)

question:

Does 1.6 require 320x480 resolution?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
That's one of the great features of 1.6.

Try "mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 lcd.density=120" and rejoice :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
well...we'll see if i can get it to boot first... I left all of the basefiles the same as what I had (which have later dates than the recommended basefiles bundle...) and it isn't wanting to boot. We'll see what happens if i try those files next.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
it boots.

just use the donut system.sqsh + 20090915 basefiles
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dessie:
Donut (1.6) adds support for 320x240. Just what we want/need.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
hmm...no market in the 1.6 build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
The new (donut) market will be launched in October.

Its being completely revamped but is not available yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ma9Xh67Eyo&hd=1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
kaiser bundle

ok new updated bundle ready to use on our kaisers

this is the google ion converted to squashfs image format with the latest base files and the last kernel that fixes audio

just unzip to root of memory card and run haret.exe :)

media files already included in bundle

enjoy :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
hmm...well...I have to say that the 1.6 build seems very nice (very quick, the native 240x320 is nice)...but, without the market, etc, it just isn't as usable (for me...) as the ion builds yet. Looking forward to a more complete build :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siulmagic:
has anyone gotten wifi to work on the kaiser with the latest 1.6 img, iv placed all the latest base files from 20090915 base files and wifi does not work, it always says unable to start wifi
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
That's an unsolved issue at this time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
hum i think i missed the download link to that 1.6

can anyone link me plz
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
http://vogue-hero.googlecode.com/files/system-cmsdk.img

note: rename that to system.sqsh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
thanks pmos69.. but vogue-hero ? this is hero with senseui and all ?

hmmm ill give a try
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
no. it's donut with some extra things to old it together
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Donut+Hero Rom would be nice...does wifi work with the latest 1.6?..would it have to do with a updated wlan.ko in 1.6??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
I could not get the SDK version to even boot, even after renaming it...Just gives an "illegal argument" or something like that(too lazy to write it down). So, perhaps I missed something. Anyway, I'll be checking in tomorrow.

Glad to see a new release is out at last!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
So, out of curiosity is the new 1.6 still using the old 2.6.25 kernel or have we finally made it to the 2.6.27 kernel?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
they are completely different things
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
I try it for more the 30minutes. it starts with a black screen with the linux logo on top and full of logs. after some minutes it hungs (no scrolling logs) remains on th black screen. time to time some logs appears and after some minutes it reamins on the blacb screen with no activity anymore !!!

any help plz ?

BR
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
use just the system.sqsh + latest basefiles

delete/rename any previous data.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tirosa:
could you plz explan I dont have any data.img file !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BlackBsd:
You dont need to have a data.img file, as one will be created for you upon boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
I realize that the linux kernel and the android vm are seperate things, however my curiosity lies more in wether or not 1.6 is running the old kernel, or wether the new 2.6.27 kernal has actually been implimented, as last I checked 3-4 weeks ago it was having stability problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
The android kernel and the android system are on different trees.

There's not even an android kernel for the vogue(/kaiser/polaris/etc) in the android repo.

We "still" use a 2.6.25 kernel.

This one: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue

The android kernel is supposed to change to 2.6.29 with donut, yes, but there's no "official" android kernel for our devices.

Perhaps the release of the htc tattoo will change that, since the hardware is much closer to ours...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
Heh, yeah I know there's no "official" repo for the kernel, thus we've had to port it over, kudos to Dzo, vilord, srwalter and all the other devs for their amazing work (as a side note, wtf happened to Okibi? His ion builds were some of the best). So I take it then that work on 2.6.27s been postponed till .29 then? As I must admit I have had no luck recompiling .27 myself, and the missing r/w support seems to be the biggest setback/roadblock at the moment. Anyway thanks for clearing up my last question :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mcfarlan:
Just wanted to say thanks for this. Best bundle I have loaded so far...AT&T Tilt, using 240 x 320 X 120 density.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zc2:
Ion 09-09-12 bundle hangs on try to turn off WiFi on my Tilt. Also my phone main functionality (place calls) often does not work and sometimes leads to system hang as well.

I had to roll back to the more stable basefiles dated 09-09-01.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Wow, so between vogue-android, vogue-hero, kaiser-hero, and various other builds coming from 4shared and such and switching back to having a basefiles package, it's gotten kind of hectic. I tried to redo the Kaiser latest builds on the Android on HTC wiki in a way that will hopefully make things easier.

I have been trying to keep up with things again, but I do have a life as well, so definitely feel free to add new builds to the Wiki page if you release them or spot them before me.

(Btw, has anyone else played with 1.6 @ 320x240? It looks amazing, everything is so sharp for the first time!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
I agree, it does look great. It'll be even greater once everything that is available on Cupcake is in Donut (market, WiFi, etc...) Can't wait!! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
yeah you are right.. some many sources.. but always outdated or with lack of info.. or not ready to kaiser... thats why i lauch that 4shared bundles ..

to simplify and make more user friendly to kaiser people :)

open a kaiser-android in googlecode and i will help to update :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Is there really a need for that?

Current vogue builds work on the Kaiser without modification.

The only thing different is the default.txt file.

The basefiles have been changed to support the kaiser and Polaris automatically.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Does the touch input keyboard fit on 320x240 using 1.6 ? The one in xROM doesn't, only the HTC or android keyboard fits on the screen..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
anyone try the "donut for the vogue" system.sqsh that just got uploaded to google code within the past hour?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
pmos69 i can live with diferent sources... i always checking all of them :P

but is not "user friendly" for most kaiser users... thats why there are so many posts like "i cant boot android why?" .. "i downloaded unziped to memory card but doenst run i have a black screen with white text and doenst goes foward"

i one way one more source it will contribute to the "confusion"

but in the other side we dont have a kaiser source with ready and user friendly updates ready to run on kaiser...

we always need to make something.. changing the default.txt or finding the last base files etc etc...

for example ive been using the 08-09-2009 basefiles in vogue-android... and about 5 minutes ago i found that was a new basefiles 08-15-2009 in vogue-gero ...

so if we make a exclusive area to kaiser files and try to mantain it always updated i think that will be better for us kaisers users...

so.. if anyone want to start a kaiser-android i will love to help on updates and stuff :)

pmos69 ... are you a kaiser user ? i think you are the perfect person to start and kaiser-android :D

btw: donut 1.6 with 320x240 lcd 120 is so clear and bright :D

love that new search box pfee...

but i cant send sms / wifi / market _/ etc .. but is a new and fresh start :D :D :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Just an FYI, there already IS a kaiser-android:

http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-android/downloads/list

Nothing in it...but it is there...

Honestly, what we really need is better documentation more than anything. It seems to me that www.androidonhtc.com is the best place for aggregating information and builds... The forum gets way too dauntingly large, and it is difficult to search for stuff like battery calibration, userinit configuration, "getting started" guids, etc... Anyway, stuff like what all of the options in the *.user.conf files do, what options (and what they do...) are available in default.txt would be great. I have managed to find a lot of stuff by Googling, but I am interested in this stuff as a learning experience..others just want it to work and have step by step guides to tweaking it to run the best...

Anyway, my two cents...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
androidonhtc.com is a wiki-- free to edit as desired.

what we need is people who are creating seperate threads and project sites to stop implying they are developers when they take other peoples' work and zip it up. There really aren't a lot of people developing but there are a lot who are releasing builds as zips with their names when they are the same. The problem being that the actual devs are always updating (thankfully) so that a new bundle with the date it was uploaded is now outdated and questions go to those who aren't working on fixing bugs. I'm not pointing fingers it's just that a lot of people are getting confused about this it seems

Stick with the dev's threads and you should alright finding updates and answers, provided you're willing to at least meet halfway on the basics.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
The new rom works but calls don't...Probably an issue with the rom? Anyway, once I get a solid working setup, I'll make a new pack.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
androidonhtc is full of documentation.. but is always outdated.. i think because its not so friendly to update.. people dont have time and pacience to edit the wiki and align stuff..

i think what we need is something more simple to update .. like zip and send..

the major things are pointed to vogue... i think here in kaiser we dont have a dedicated source ... only this post and the help to make some changes to make releases to work on our kaisers :)

i know its easy to change the default.txt.. but for some people.. changing a file its a pain in the ass lol :\

oh well .. when i can ill post here updated bundles ready to work on kaiser just in case if someone want to run android on kaiser without having to surf trouhgh millions of posts and sources.. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
updated kaiser bundles

ok.. new updates!

google ion in squashfs with new basefiles and the new donut (1.6) with the new basefiles to :)

just unzip to root of memory card and run haret.exe

media files are included to :)

enjoy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
To be clear, I wasn't suggesting the creation of yet another source for Android files. That will only make matters worse - especially if it's just a collection of reuploaded files from elsewhere.

The point of the Wiki is that anyone can edit it, so it can always have the latest builds listed regardless of their source. It does require free registration to edit, but that's just to prevent spam bots from taking it over. Use fake information if you're that paranoid about spam.

I'm aware that a lot of the information is outdated, but it's hard to keep track of it all. If you see something outdated, FIX IT!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zc2:
autoload

The latest build (09-15-09), Ion (09-12-09) loads a lot of application processes (almost of all of them) in the memory right after the system boots. Is it normal and made intentionally ?

If yes, then I say it does not accelerate the loading time at all.

How can I turn that feature off?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
donut - question / comments

Hello Devs,

I have notice a couple of things with the builds (all) of donuts, the front keys stay lite when the phone goes into standby / sleep. also the headset appears in one of the builds.

I also would like to know the best display res for kaiser for Donut to work well with gmail? other wise great work.

I also was wondering why I need connect in winmo to the internet before I can get a connection in Android?

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
I have a list of minor to major issues with the latest builds

1) Wifi doesnt work (I know this is known, just part of the list)

2) Calls don't seem to work - unable to hang up or just freezes phone

3) Occassional lock ups resulting in reboot

I will continue to run and test the future builds.

New features in Donut:

VPN support - Great for someone like me who needs server access

Improved speed - Is not slow which is great

Anyway, thats all for now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
The Donut 1.6 gives me some minor screen corruption. Otherwise, everything moves smoothly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Yeah, I'm seeing that too. Random overbright pixels.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
the only problem is that wiki is not user friendly to update... and for example i dont update that wiki because i dont have 20 minuts in my life to spend editing pages... align text.. more to the left.. more to the right...

wiki edit preview

did you think this is userfriendly to update?

making tables with text :|

people dont have time waste to updates ,..

we need some platform to make express updates...

like i said .. zip , text, send and link .. thats it updated :)

but this is only my 2c ..

btw: this is getting off topic.. so i stop here this discussion :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
edit STARTUP.txt and change the resolution if you want so...

its by default 240x320 density 120...

but for example i use 336x448 density 160 :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Soo...I was sitting here thinking about the latency issues with the sd card and how it is (probably) the root of the problem with (most) of the "Force Close/Wait, Program not responding" messages that we get running Android. I also have "Storage Tools" in WinMo, which can be used to Format, Scan, and Defrag the SD card. It shows that my SD card is currently formatted with 4kb cluster size, but it can format up to a 64 kb cluster size. Since as far as the SD card is concerned, most of the files used by Android (system.sqsh/.img, data.img, etc.) are large files we wouldn't waste much space using larger cluster size. I know that if we have a bunch of small files, a lot of space would be wasted with larger cluster sizes, but I wonder if we would get a noticeable boost in performance by making the cluster size larger. Thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] p-de-geus:
can someone tell me how to make the data.img file bigger??

Android is telling me there is low memory.

thnx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cmus:
donut WiFi

Has anyone gotten the recent donut builds to initialize wifi?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] YouBou1992:
not yet ^^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zmanw330:
help android doesnt boot

ok im a noob so plz excuse me probs but thatnks ahead of time for answering

i have a att tilt runnig medkids kaiser rom. i cant seem to boot android. i run haret and it says found machine kiaiser and i press run, go go go and freezes. i am using Google-Ion-2009-09-12.zip and have tried rebooting many times, im confuzled.

any help xda geniuses

thanks

:confused: :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xxbabiboi228xx:
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/downloads/detail?name=data.img.zip&can=2&q=

256MB Thanks to Zenulator
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
on the latest rogers build, the screen boots to an all black screen. I waited about 30 minutes. in my default.txt my res is set to 320 X 480.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
did you remember to delete your previous data.img

I had no problems with it. 1st boot takes a while (with a black screen) but not 30 minutes.

very nice release indeed.

- I'm using 320x427 with lcd.density=160 for correct aspect ratio while not breaking any apps (such as keyboard).

- very fast call notification (within 1st ringtone)

- wifi working

- data working

- market working

- very fast

FYI, the basefiles have been updated to support this release. they're at the vogue-hero code page.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] natalic:
New package coming soon, using the latest Tattoo image thanks to ???...Anyone know? Jtale? PMOS probably knows better than I.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
did you use the rogers.config?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
That only made it worse. Now I can't read the text.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] DaveTheTytnIIGuy:
Haven't used that build yet, but I've solved that on other builds by changing around "board-htckaiser.panel_type=" around. The possible values that should be there are apparantly 0, 1, and 3, but not 2. Hope that fixes it for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dukenukemx:
You were right DaveTheTytnIIGuy, it was set to 1 and I changed it to 0. Now the screen is sharp and clear, even set to 240X320.

This thing is sexy. I get no lag scrolling with the touch screen, and the included web browser is better then Opera, IE, or Skyfire on WM. Wifi does in fact work, I was able to connect and visit a web page.

The are a few problems though. The OpenGL ES demos don't work, and when you open the keyboard and close it, the screen doesn't correct itself. The screen will be upside down instead. Hitting the end call button will put the phone into standby, but that maybe the way Android works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] psycosamurai92:
Not sure if this is exactly what you're experiencing however, on a fresh data.img whenever I open and close keyboard the screen is stuck sideways, trick to fixing that, go into settings, Sound & Display, scroll down and uncheck "Orientation".