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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
wow, the ribbon connectors in the kaiser suck. It has the snap-together type, not the slide in and clamp down type...

Corrosion on the connector is impossible to get out, and the pins are so tiny that just a tiny bit of corrosion and one of them broke off.

So, I don't have a working kaiser at this point :( alternates between flickering white screen and black screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Seryeo:
I have Kaiser. Android installed. Go well. 3G can not navigate, although the connection is established. What could happen?.

:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
did you configure the APN settings in two places? Both settings -> wireless settings -> access point names and also in default.txt?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mudkip:
i have also set up my apn and default text i cannot get 3g or market to work. is any one else on att that could send me a default text and image with the apn set?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
just use these settings:

ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGRPS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1

and these in apn on android:

Name: AT&T

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: Not Set

Port: Not Set

Username: wap@cingulargprs.com

password: cingular1

Server: Not Set

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS proxy: wireless.cingular

MMS Port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

Also a quick side note... for anyone having problems with downloading apps off market, such as they fail instantly, reformat sd to make it work, at least that worked for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mudkip:
alright ill give it a try here in a few min
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
GPS and Wiki Updates

I'm running the July 9th bundle and my GPS won't start in Android. I haven't tried starting it in WinMo before booting, I have to experiment with that tomorrow. I had a clean view of the sky and the satellite icon appeared but it never got a signal lock on.

Also, I started updating the Android on HTC wiki to encompass some more changes from 1.5. If anyone spots any outdated areas, please feel free to fix them or PM me and I'll go back and redo them.

Oh, and I have started posting release announcements on the blog again (there was a period of time where development slowed and when it picked up again I realized I'd misplaced the password to the blog... :o) Link is in my signature if you're interested.

P.S. AT&T users: it's no longer necessary to use a username/password for the APN, so just put ppp.apn=wap.cingular ppp.username=none ppp.password=none and leave the username/password fields blank in the Android APN menu.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] demanmethetplan:
gps

Just sharing my gps - adventures for everyone who has trouble getting a fix in android:

I was unable to get a fix on android, but neither in winmo. Did some research and it turned out that it is somehow possible to mess up the whole gps thing in winmo. So I upgraded to a new version of hardspl/rom and flashed a new rom (6.5). Now I first get a gps fix in winmo, then turn on android and it's getting a fix within 5 minutes.

So to summarize: If your gps doesn't work in winmo, it probably won't in Android (at least that's my experience)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
gps

If you have a duttyrom or similar i do the following:-

1) Run gpstest and wait for the gps to show activity.

2) Run Haret

It now works..

Tested it with google maps - location spot on,

Tested it with andnav2 - sat nav - pretty rubbish but works.

Nav4all on the market is much better.

One bluetooth works so i can get my headset on i wont bother with winmo anymore - dont seem to get coma left phone on last night and it went flat..

Also found a handapp backup util on the market last night as well.. (called appmanager)

My wife used to say a vdu was the best form of contraception now she says its an android!!!

lol

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lamaz:
Let me chime in here Phil, do you mean that as of bundle 09jul2009 bluetooth officially works in android 1.5? (Avaialble both from either http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds or http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list).

Can anybody else verify this? Is there any support for A2DP?

Gracias,

LamaZ

BTW: I love the new tagline, "Android, its the best form of contraception"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] demanmethetplan:
No. I think he meant "once bluetooth works" as in: Bluetooth does not work yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
No sorry, bluetooth doesnt work yet.... but 3g is great - filling my phone with apps for brill email check out k9 on the market - much better than built in mail!!!

Ta

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] NarSan:
don't work for me :(

meybe something else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cristids:
Battery charging

Hi guys,

My Kaiser seems to stop charging at 67%. It even say so on a battery widget I installed and on settings battery level. This seems strange, phone knows is not fully charged and still it stops.

At this point I reboted in winmo and there it says 55%.

Back to android, it still says 67% and would not charge over this value.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spiritssight:
Hello Devs & testers,

I can verify that for AT&T (US) you don't need username or password in either default/startup or apn.

when my phone is unplug a led stays our on the left side and one right side it blinks, sorry cannot tell you colors I can not see them (color blind)

I am using Ion build number CR843

when using GPS it take forever to get a fix (like 5-10min)

DO we still need to have the display setings in default.txt?

when having the phone plug in the changing icon changes from the changing to the unplug icon so doesnt the stand by screen

my battery seem to be last at less 12hours some times more depending on if not using as much.

I was wonding is there a update for the contact manger as Google has made changes to there contact manger online and you can not see or access that information on the phone? I also was wondering is there a way to get the phone to have larger text with out messing up the scaling stuff? in Spar parts when changing text size nothing happens???

I thiank you very much for your hard work!!!

Sincerely,

Christopher
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
I have the same issue - starts recharging and then stops charging.

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
In case anyone cares since removing my clock settings from startup.txt I haven't had a coma0 phone has been working flawlessly
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
notification sounds

hey guys have a question. This is the first time testing the Android release on my ATT tilt. Am using the lastest build from android on htc. I have most current usable things working but one thing I noticed was that I am unable to change sound settings for notifications and ringers. Currently I have no sound for notifications (i.e. SMS) and it only rings once for calls. I even tried installing a couple of apps from market and they can't look at the available ringers either. Did a search couldn't find anything so was hoping someone might have some info for me.

Thanks,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
First, top work on all the guys who've gotten Android working on the Kaiser!

OK... I've recently had another go, first one since the very first effort which rarely even booted, and everything ticked off on the port list works fine. In fact, there's just one thing that's a bit... odd.

I'm in the UK, on the T-mobile network (contract), yet the phone seems to think I'm on "one2one Person". Attempting to scan for networks always results in a failure as well.

Now, according to my online bill, I AM being billed correctly as part of my plan, so it's not roaming and clearly is on the right network, so how come it's identifying it incorrectly?

Also, I know there's still much work to be done, WIFI, Bluetooth and the camera especially, and these clearly must take priority; but I find myself wondering, has any work at all been done on making a flashable ROM for Android, that we can boot natively instead of going via WM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
network

Panic not tmobile used to be called one2one, and I am sure that this is either due to an older sim or it is due to the way the mobile network broadcasts information.

It has been commented on b4

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nanomad:
Hi all. I'm testing the Android release on my HTC Kaiser (130). I am using the lastest build from the google code site (vogue one). Most of the things works, except for network identification.

Android reports the correct signal level but does not say the carrier name or 3G. If i recall correctly, it used to work once (it was a very old build from andoridonhtc site).

Moreover, adb does not work either (This should be a known adb issue with Kaiser phones, so it's not Android fault)

Here are my specs:

Phone: KAIS130

SPL: 3.34Hard

Radio: 1.71.09.01 eMo

WM 6.5 Phoenix 3.1

Network: H3G Italy

I'm gonna try GPS as soon as I can

Let me know if you need any logs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikechml:
Mine tells me i'm on BTCellnet :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] FloatingFatMan:
Ah right. Stellar. Thanks for that. :)

The SIM *is* a bit old. Had the same one for about 3 years, though it registers as T-Mobile perfectly fine on Symbian and WM devices... Curious.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mihyes:
I have TyTN II with official 6.1 rom + 1.70.19.09 radio (which I flashed due to the error below - it didn't help). Older (a couple of months) android versions worked (booted into OS) while never don't.

But now I am stuck after loader completed with message something like:

taks: kadspd:15 blocked for more than 120 seconds (plus other apparently less significantly lines)

The bunch of lines are repeated every 120 secs or so.

Any idea what's wrong? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mihyes:
Nevermind, reformat of the SD card did the trick.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nanomad:
After looking at the radio log, i think I've found the problem.

D/AT ( 87): AT> AT+COPS?
D/AT ( 87): AT< +COPS: 0,2,"22299",2

So, the andorid library responsible of decoding MCC & MNC codes is missing this (and possibly others) operator.

Here is a list of MCC & MNC codes for IT carriers:

22299 = H3G - Italy
22201 = Telecom Italia Mobile TIM - Italy
22210 = Vodafone Omnitel - Italy
22288 = Wind Telecomunicazioni - Italy

edit: let's suppose I would like to start fixing android code for the kaiser. Where should I start? Where are all the patches that are applied to vanilla 1.5 build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] p-de-geus:
Wow, great progress @ the moment:):).

as soon as i have my tytn2 back tuesday i will test the newest build!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] XtremeNL:
Hi,

I tried searching but I coudn't find it.

if i run android, my sim card doesn't load, and since that means no data conenction, I can't log in to my gmail account and get going.

I noticed I need to have a pinless simcard for a data connection, but how could I remove the pincode from my sim?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
If you didn't set one up you probably don't have one... if you do, then under WM go to start>settings>personal>phone. and at the bottom select the PIN/PIN2 tab. And change it from there.

If you didn't setup your pin then it sounds like you need to setup your APN. In your default.txt you should setup your APN according to THIS (at the bottom of the page.) And then once you boot android you need to go into the APN settings.

1. Open the settings menu from the pop up menu on the home screen by pressing the menu button

2. Navigate to Wireless Controls –> Mobile Networks –> Access point names

3. Press the menu button and delete the existing APN(s) (If any)

4. Press the menu button again to create a new APN and enter the info you get from HERE

All of this i got straight from the android on htc wiki
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
networks

I thought that as I typed the answer, mind you tmobile could soon be vodafone and then where would we BE!

LOL

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
My understanding is that WinMo/Symbian have some sort of internal tower database that they use to tell you what network you're on, whereas Android reads the (often wrong/outdated) carrier name directly from the tower. My phone will change between Cingular, Cingular@, AT&T, AT&TD, and various other similar variations depending on what tower I'm locked onto.

Try downloading the notifications.zip from the Android-Vogue Google Code site and putting it in your SD root and then rebooting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I hope this is okay to post. It's a bash script that will check the latest build for Vogue. Will say "Android Updater" or notify you of a new version with a link. Outputs to standard output, a log for the current version name and a web app that's embedded in my taskbar. It can always be improved though so any thoughts would be appreciated.

# Vilord's Repos:
aTEMPPATH="~/.voguecodefeed"
if [ -e $aTEMPPATH/temp_vilord.html ]; then
echo "Loading Latest Update..."
else
echo "Detecting First Run. Attempting to make it now: ~/.vogue_code_feed/"
mkdir -p $aTEMPPATH
touch $aTEMPPATH\temp_vilord.log
touch $aTEMPPATH\temp_vilodrd.html
echo "Loading Latest Update..."
fi

if [ -e $aTEMPPATH/temp_vilord.log ]; then
CURRENTaBUILD=`cat $aTEMPPATH/temp_vilord.log`
else
CURRENTaBUILD="!NA"
fi

NEWESTaBUILD=`wget -q -O- http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list | sed -e 's/>/>\
/g' | grep '<a' | grep android | grep cancelBubble | grep detail | nawk '{print substr($3,19,26)}' -|line`

if [ "$NEWESTaBUILD" = "$CURRENTaBUILD" ]; then
echo "
<style> html {overflow:hidden;} body {overflow:hidden;} p { color:black;font-family: serif;font-style: oblique;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight: 100;font-size:small;line-height: 100%;word-spacing: normal;letter-spacing: normal;text-decoration: none;text-transform: none;text-align: center;text-indent: 0ex; }</style><body style='overflow:hidden;'><p>Android<br>Feed</p></body>
" > $aTEMPPATH/temp_vilord.html
echo "Android Updater: No New Version"
else
echo " <style> html {overflow:hidden;} body {overflow:hidden;} p { color:black;font-family: serif;font-style: oblique;font-variant: small-caps;font-weight: 100;font-size:small;line-height: 100%;word-spacing: normal;letter-spacing: normal;text-decoration: none;text-transform: none;text-align: center;text-indent: 0ex; }</style><body style='overflow:hidden;'><a href='http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/detail?name=$NEWESTaBUILD' >New Build!<br>$NEWESTaBUILD</a></body>" > $aTEMPPATH/temp_vilord.html
echo "Android Updater: New Update: $NEWESTaBUILD"
echo "Click Here To Download It: http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/detail?name=$NEWESTaBUILD"
fi
echo "$NEWESTaBUILD" > $aTEMPPATH/temp_vilord.log
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
ramblings of androidaholic

It's true I am an android aholic - there is no cure :p yet!

I have been pushing it to the limit and have some observations...

Data - it still has to be started in winmo - if I don't it doesn't work - I have apn etc - and when it drops most of the time it will come back - but not always..

GPS - settings are very good and accurate and fast no lag - even when driving - but this also must be initialised in winmo first.

I do the following...

Start gpstest in winmo.

Hit the windows key - start internet explorer

Hit the windows key - run the file explorer -and start haret

And it works!

Patients helps - I wait till It tells me its got a signal just a few extra seconds..

Being playing on the market and all the apps i tested seem to work fine, although the developers could do with taking some leasons from our guys!!!!!

Quite pleased really.....

Contacts -hmm tried funamobl on winmo - fine - tried the android version and only half contacts came in leaving the book half full.

Going to do a bit more digging on this!

NUFF Said!

Phil

My wife has put a sacepan lid on her head and a roll of tin foil round her waist - I think she misunderstand's my love for Android!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] blingdude:
Just wondering, reading the last few pages on this forum people seem to have issues with data connection + gps. My GPS seems to work without starting it up in winmb same goes for the data connection and it never times out. Is it still buggy with me being lucky or is it random if it works?

Brilliant work guys on this :D, i love android. I know there's $65 for a developer as a bounty to get wifi working but is anyone making any progress on it at the current moment?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Wifi and bluetooth are particularly difficult for similar reasons. Seems the firmware is being rejected despite being the stock one for a Kaiser. That's about all I can really say at the moment. The logs I posted a couple pages show where things are at right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gbdurante:
OUtgoing call issue

I have this outgoing call issue since the first bundle. Now I'm using the last 07-09-09 vilord bundle and the problem is still there.

I know that is related to SIM card, but there must be a way to solve this and there is something wrong on data file, because it always works on all WinMo ROM I ever tried and everything else works perfectly on android. SMS sending , incomming call, it recognizes my Carrier (VIVO) very well and all VIVO features, including 3G data transfer.

I think there is something wrong on outgoing mechanism that is missing.

I'm thinking also to try a voicecall to see if it works on this way.

HTC TYTN II: PDAUltimate-X2.V5

Radio: 1.65.16.25

Model: KAIS130

Android Bundle: android-ION-07_09_09

SIM Card Carrier: VIVO Brazil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
Thanks and my request.

Hey thanks for the reply. I was able to figure out some stuff later before I was able to get back to here. One thing I have noticed that I would rather have working before wifi and bluetooth is having the network information to be read by programs. (i.e. google maps, where) I know several of those use it to get localized help. I also noticed the battery not reading right. once drained it only charged back up to about 60% but then after a reboot showed 100%. Also have to acquire gps and internet in winmo before booting android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
just found issue.

Hey have ATT tilt version of phone and just found an issue. My phone does not handle incoming calls at all. The phone rings and then when answered everything is quiet. The caller can't hear you and you can't hear the caller. Not sure what is causing it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] abhixclusive:
Handsfree?

Is handsfree working on android? my android on my kaiser is not able to detect the handsfree when connected.

Any help?

Thanks in advance

Abhilash M
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] drukqer:
T-mobile works on older build

I am using a T-Mobile SIM card and I'm currently getting incoming/outgoing calls, SMS, etc (have not tried data, wifi doesn't work, don't know about GPS).

It seems that any newer builds will not work with outgoing calls.

Here is what works for me:

HTC Kaiser 100 (Tilt)

Radio 1.65.21.14

WinMo 6.1 ROM 3.57

Android 1.1 Bundle dated Feb. 27, 2009:

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/android-1.1-27-02-09.zip

intrid.gz and zImage from April 17, 2009 build (much more responsive):

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/files/android-1.1-17-04-09.zip

YOU MUST COMPLETE AN OUTGOING CALL AFTER ANDROID BOOTS

OR ELSE YOUR PHONE WILL LOCK UP WHEN RECEIVING A CALL

Hope this helps everyone with outgoing issues on TMO.

When this bug gets fixed we can all enjoy the latest builds...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mr wyngaard:
i am having this same proplem i am on MTN in south africa
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tranoidnoki:
I have been using the Google Android 7/09/09 build, and I LOVE it so far.Few bugs that really irk me and it works well. One thing though, I am trying to download apps from Market, but it goes to "starting download" with the progress bar, but that is all it does. Never starts a download. All the other functions (email, browser, youtube,etc) work. This is the only dealbreaker I have with Android as of right now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mihyes:
I had the same issue but then all of the suden try started downloading and after that they installed just fine. Not sure what helped, perhaps I used the browser in between.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tranoidnoki:
triedthat, didnt work

edit: go figure, after this post it works
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toasty_:
adding locales for changing language...

hi guys,

since a few hours i'm trying to find the 'locales' in android. I'd like to download these files from the emulator-image and put them into the Kaiser-Android image. But with "adb shell" it seems to be "finding a needle in a haystack".

I hope somebody can give me an advice where the files are located... thanks!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I'd help you if you can look through the image.

grep -iR 'locales' /path/to/extracted-system/

and try to very the keyword a bit. Maybe you'll find it as:

grep -iR 'en_US.utf8' /path/to/extracted-system/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Mormy:
Hallo, I've got the same problem, but with Polaris (hope you aren't angry if I ask a question here).

My carrier is H3G Italy, I set my MCC & MNC in the APN settings so I have a full data connection, but Android doesn't recognize my network :(

Do you understand where I could put this parameters??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toasty_:
Ok that's a solution, but for this I also have build 'busybox' for ARM (OK that isn't a real problem - I'm only lazy and thougt somebody can point me to the files)

thx for help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You don't need busybox at all, just grep it on your desktop (or Vgrep for Windows if you insist) with an extracted image.

If you want busybox for Android, it's already available. Jay Freeman (guy that hacked the iphone) posted it on his site http://cache.saurik.com/android/armel/busybox. I used to include it but there's really no need for that or bash unless you're tinkering.

Just did a scan for 'locales' but it matched against binaries. Unless you're compiling or know a way to mod them yourself, look for a localized system image already (sounds like you have one) and here's what I found:

user@boxx:~$ sudo mount -o loop system.img temp/
user@boxx:~$ grep -iR 'locales' temp/
Binary file temp/bin/recovery matches
Binary file temp/lib/libandroid_runtime.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libc.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libflashlite.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libicudata.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libicui18n.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libicuuc.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libimezi.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libnativehelper.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libutils.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libwapcore.so matches
Binary file temp/lib/libwebcore.so matches
grep: temp/lost+found: Permission denied
Binary file temp/xbin/check-lost+found matches