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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Can only agree on the above said.

Its going impressively fast currently each day new features.

Does somebody know how I can read out the apk files? so I can have a look it in and see why some apps arent working as they should do like the gmail.apk
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
for me ubuntu opengs .apk files like zip files. so thats something to try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] avengerpenguin:
Having just started looking at android again, the progress is amazing well done to all involved. I think the last time I looked at it was sept last year.

I have run the latest version of android, however whilst I am able to make and recieve calls I am unable to send or recieve text messages, I am guessing that this is due to the APN settings or should it work straight out of the box? If someone could clarify this before I start messing about I would be very grateful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Joral:
I ran into something a bit odd with my phone, where when I extend the keyboard, it switches the screen view upside down.

Is this something that would be more in the Android code? (I have been looking at that, but am a bit too inexperienced to dive into the low level hardware driver code.) Or is it just a setting somewhere I've missed?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
It's because the G1 had the keyboard on the other side as the kaiser. But i read here that someone is goeing to fix it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zim2dive:
I haven't tried Android yet.. but I don't have a data plan.. will it still work?

does android support networking thru some kind of tether to a PC (ie. as I can do via ActiveSync).

Like I said, I have not tried it yet, but I have been following this thread with great anticipation for many months. Kudos to the folks making such incredible progress!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
I think i ran into a nasty bug.

All was going well running 21/01 build (phone thru speaker, internet and sms using the new system.img) then i decided to try to pass a call while playing mp3 to see if the mp3 player would shut off by itself, and so it did, but i had no sound in call.

I thought "it crashed the phone part" and rebooted.

Now android will never any produce any in call sound, i tried older builds, formatted microsd tried every kernel, and now i can never hear anything while calling.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
not wanting to scare you, but have you tried making calls in win mobile to check the phone speaker?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
of course i tried, it works ok in winmo and mp3 plays ok in android too,

i tried flashin roms too, now flashing a new radio

UPDATE: new radio didnt help :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Tried a battery yank + 5 minute no power?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
tried that for 30 minutes, still no sound on my side when calling, although the person on the other phone hear me ok.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Did you try turning up the volume with the right softkey?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
yup I did, nothing happened besides the bar moving
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anod:
did you tried to remove data.img, android should unpack new one from data.gz?

I got sem problems with the loading, after replacing this file with new one the problem is gone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
I am having the same problem. No audio and also no internet. I used both dzo's files as well as the files dated January 21. I think my APN is correct and also default.txt. I tried to follow the instruction to the dot and still no audio (speaker) and also no internet connection. I am beginning to think my radio is not the right version. I am using the one in my signature. Should I use a different one? What do you think could be the problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
I did try this with the latest build and previous ones, even formatted sd, still no sound in call
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
fwiw... I never had sound in calls... speaker or ear-piece...

But my SMS and Inet consistently works...

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
About SMS

Question about SMS.

I read that some people can send SMS and MMS messages.

I cannot. When I try to send one, it comes in the drafts folder after the message that the SMS could not be send.

In Holland (Europe?) we have to enter a phonenumber of the SMS center. Where can I set this number? I tried to find it in the menu, but could not found anything about this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
the weird thing is that I used to have sound

SMS and Inet still work nicely tho.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
gps is no problem. it was working in some older revision. just like the at and data, it is a simple serial channel. if you have gps on in wince and dump the 1M of smem, you see the nmea data somewhere at the end. I don't know how it's turned on. we just had it turned on during boot and nmea data could be read from smd7. must be proc_comm or so
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Hi,

I've fixed the ts driver, it still uses polling but at least gives the correct values now. A test kernel is here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage-kaiser

The problem was that it was using a mode of the chip that is supposed to give the X,Y and P values together but the Y and P values never worked. Activating the X,Y and P measurements separately makes it work perfectly.

run Pointer Location in Dev Tools to test the ts.

There is also some simple calibration for the ts, while holding town the cam button (fully), touch opposite corners of the screen.

I've also set up the soft keys on the kbd so that alt+left soft key gives you a text console and alt+right soft key goes back to the GUI. Be careful though, everything you type in the console is sent to android so it's easy to dial random numbers and also easy to get stuck when the screen powers off.

The arrow keys on the kbd should work now too.

I've pushed all the changes to git.

f00bar has posted his cupcake changes here:

http://vogue-android.blogspot.com/2009/01/source-for-changes.html

It shouldn't be hard to fix the upside down kbd problem now.

I'm away on holiday (yes, again!) next week so won't be able to do anything more till after then.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
GREAT WORK DZO!!!!!

The new zimage works amazing!

Just playin around with the pointer location and its spot on!

Can't wait til you get back from vacation so this thing can get closer to being fully functional! Great job to everybody else thats been helping develop this. Much appreciation!

I'd help if I knew how.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ryoojin83:
Wow, I didn't think power off would actually work, but it does. :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Yes!!! the new Touch screen is alot better... makes the on-screen keyboard even better too!

Thanks alot! Nice work!

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
schweet... thanks for the kbc fix, dzo.. just saw it in my rss reader.

I'll prolly re-implement the tilt fix correctly this time... as soon as I finich the battery driver.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
The touchscreen is spot on - great job Dzo! I'm still having issues getting the Internet connection to work though -- still same situation, SMS and calls work fine, Togga unable to connect..

As soon as the Internet connection works consistently and calls can come into the non-speakerphone method (the normal way!), I would consider using Android on an everyday basis.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Can somebody plwase tell me what is the best radio for Andriod?

I did everything and still cant connect to internet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] disturbed4686:
do I have to do anything to make SMS work? it doesn't work for me with this newest zimage from dzo from the last page
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
ok now that im back from my trip, and am not posting from a pda, lol this is how I got both working for me, not sure if any of it is necessary but it worked so im sticking to it. :P

First i loaded all the files from the newest zip, edited my default.txt accordingly and added the latest (well second latest now) zimage. Loaded android, and made sure internet was working, as it was. Then I added the APN settings to it and also tested to see if that works, which it did. Then I deleted the system.img and added the newer one with SMS enabled, and loaded that, to my surprise togga worked and I had sms messages coming through.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Thanks for taking the time to explain how you got to work for you.

What you mean with loaded Andriod? You mean you boot it tp?

How did you connect to internet without first without setting the APN? I set the APN exactly like you described pages back (I usr ATT as well) but I cant connect. Any idea why? Does it matter what Radio I am using?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mahd-leb:
i dint get internet working either iam just waiting on some that post directions that would work for me ......i use t-mobile and i havent seen any t-mobile settings directions or users who got it to work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
someone with advanced specs of this phone: what is the value of the Rsns for the ds2476? the chip's datasheet says it is anything you'd like, so I'm pretty much screwed with no way to consistently read it.

see, the ds2760 had the resistor in the chip, whihc made it nice and easy to calculate... this doesn't :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Yes by load, i mean haret. :P and ive had some ability to use the internet without using the APN settings by adding the ppp commands in the default.txt. it doesnt work all the time for some reason but it works more than it doesnt.

Just in case, these are what I add to the "set cmdline" command.

ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Let me paste my default.txt here. Maybe you can find what I am doing wrong.

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000
set RAMADDR 0x10000000
set FBDURINGBOOT 0
set MTYPE 1553
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd "initrd.gz"
set cmdline "ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1 pm.sleep_mode=4 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"
boot

And when you set the APN, do you first remove all existing one first and then add a new one (ATT) and then reboot and then run Togga?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
yes, that is how I normally do it.

here is how my default.txt is set up

#alloctest 0x2000
set RAMSIZE 0x07000000
set RAMADDR 0x10000000
set FBDURINGBOOT 0
set MTYPE 1553
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd "initrd.gz"
#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd.gz"
#set initrd "\Storage Card\initrd-console.gz"
#set initrd "\Storage Card\android.bin"
#
# The following kernel parameters are useful
# ppp.username - The username used to connect to the network when dialing #777
# ppp.password - The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777
# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller
# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off
# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,
# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt
# Default is 3, use 0 for best power savings
# board-htcvogue.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on
# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)
# 1=Hitachi 2=Topoly 3=Samsung
#
set cmdline "board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 ppp.username=WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM ppp.password=CINGULAR1 pm.sleep_mode=4 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend"
# fbcon=rotate:1
# console=ttyMSM0"
boot

I might just pack up my storage card and post it up too if all else fails. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
OK, I really dont understand whats going on and what else I can do to fix this.

I copied the latest 21-01-09 zip file to the root of storage card. Then replaced the system.img from the one dzo posted yesterday and replaced the zImage with the one he posted today and replaced the default.txt with the one you just posted above.

Then I boot it up and I get the "G". I set the APN just like you described, few pages back. I will paste a copy below. Then I reboot and go to Togga and it doesnt connect. SMS works fine, but I cant connect to www. I am basically following your instruction to the dot and still can get connected to internet.

#1 Is it ok to have other files on the SD card?

#2 What version of radio are you using?

Here is a copy of my APN setting:

Name: AT&T

APN: wap.cingular

Proxy: leave blank

Port: leave blank

Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM

Password: CINGULAR1

Server: leave blank

MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com

MMS proxy: wireless.cingular.com

MMS port: 80

MCC: 310

MNC: 410

APN type: blank
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
im using the emo radio 1.71 or something along those lines. I used the system img from the zip file first, ran it to get internet with the apn settings, then switched to the newer img file to get sms. Try deleting the data.img and copying the system and data from the zip file, running it, then using the new system.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nato2k:
wow, the new TS is perfect! very awesome job! the data connection seems to work better now too. I have been having fun downloading apps with sam.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
OK, I upgraded the radio to 1.71 eMu and that did not help.

Then I replaced the system and data with the original one from the zip and still could not connect.

I am giving it one last chance before giving up. I am formating the SD card so Andriod files are the only files on SD card. If this doesnt work. then I dont know what to do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Ok, here is my full RUNNING Android setup for AT&T. Backup and DELETE all other files from android that may be on your card. Then extract and copy to your SD Card. No APN settings needed, as they are already in, data and SMS are tested working together.

Also, there are applications that are preloaded in the zip but NOT installed yet, if you copy the AndroidApps folder they will all load up automatically, I suggest adding and removing what you would like.

There is a Wallpapers folder included as well, do what you like with that.

And make sure windows mobile has some sort of active data connection before running haret. I also use listen for network connections in haret, not sure if that makes a difference, but it works, so I stick with it.

The download is here and has the newest (as of this post) zImage included. ~48.3MB

Details of this package are:

Files from android-21-01-09.zip

System.img image with SMS enabled

zImage last posted a page back.

Data.img (which I think might be the key for it to be working at the moment)

Edited default.txt which i posted a few posts back.

Good luck.

Also to be noted, this is just a quick fix for now of course.

edit: testing again. and im posting this from android which is what ie in the .zip. off to bed now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
Oh my god!! You wont believe this, but I am finally connected!!! YOOHOO!

You are the man. Thanks a lot.

I deleted everything on the SD card. uploaded everything from your zip file into the SD card loaded Android, ran Togga and it connected for the very first time. WOW. very cool.

And by the way I like your apps a lot. Thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
shadowline tested

wow shadowline thanks soo much for that... i just tested this and HOLY CRAP its amazing my the internet is 10x faster than what it was on windows mobile... it is a whole lot more touch responsive than the latest files posted by Dzo. This is the first testing that I have done however it feel like were almost there. I know there is a lot of fixes to go but if we have gotten this far there is no stopping you developers from creating a fully operation android rom on our kaisers. great job guys.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] coincoinlapin:
Shadowline for president! or at least give him post ownership :p

Now, I can't get any data connexion here. In winmo, I only have one setting: APN: ebouygtel.com for my 3G+ connexion. No ppp username or anything. Does it mean I can't connect? (Togga fails).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dy2592:
what is Togga? I keep hearing people refer to that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Togga is the program that currently sets up the ppp connection, which has to be done manually at this stage. You'll find it in the latest android.

My problem is somewhat more difficult, I have had no problems calling & browsing with the pre-sms system.img... No with shadowline's pack (using the sms-img) it suddenty shows I'm using Android T-mobile NL in the lock-screen (which it never did) but no matter what I do, I can't make calls, send sms or get togga to connect...

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dadennis:
with the new system.img, with which sms should work i can't do anything. I can't even connect to some network ... with the old system.img i could get internet-connection and make calls, but with this one nothin' works ....

but new zImage is great ... TS is perfect .... great work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Somehow... the new (sms) system.img requires SIM pin number, but I couldn't enter it in Android, so I disabled the need for a sim pin in winmo...

IT WORKS! Sending and receiving sms to & from my girl using Andriod, what a wonderfull day this is...

Thanks to all the devs and other testers for keeping it real and keeping it hot!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dadennis:
oh, great idea, i will try it immediately

UPDATE: WORKS!!!! great idea ^^ , works perfectly now ^^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Well you didnt change anything in Windows Mobile, but you changed the SIM settings and that is also what Android uses, but we dont have a way to change it yet from within Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Thanks man, that's it. Works for me, too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Woo! It works! Lets all have a togga party! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rogro82:
hmmm thinking about it... ive seen an at+cpin call in the ril, nice find...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
@dadennis:

Hey man, i saw you have t-mobile ger. Could you please give me the apn settings from android?

I've tried all but without success, call or sms work....

THANKS:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Epicardium:
Shadowline, thank you very much for taking the time to do this. Ironed out a few of the problems I was having.

I still can't make calls, however. At least, I have no audio in calls, even on speaker. It seems others are able to make calls, so I'm wondering what is different about my configuration. Could it be that I'm using radio 1.65.24.36?

On another note, I've noticed that my keyboard backlight will not shut off. It stays on and drains my battery in pretty short order. Any others notice this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anthonws:
@Epicardium

Have you removed the PIN from your SIM card? What radio version are you using?

@rogro82

at+cpin is normally used in a ppp connection (wvdial config for example). I searched for a possible shell command but found nothing. Our friends from OpenMoko also have the same problem. Their solution is the same.

Thank you again to all Dev's!!

Anthon
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
:oanyone here got sound through a headset (wired)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
..................
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Yup, wired headset sound works for me (not sure about a headset with a mic though.) I was listening to music on my trip back yesterday with it. :D

Don't you need a passcode to remove the sim pin code?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
People gosh is it that difficult reading back or checking the wiki page?

The dev's are working on it and doing a great job.

Thanks

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser%2FAndroid

Other information can be found on dzo's page:

http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
Major respect to dzo and the other people working on this project. You guys are making big progress in fast pace. I tested the latest stuff ( the complete zip with working sms posted a few posts before ) and i'm impressed. I only noticed the IM messenger not working ( if selected it goes to a black screen on the right for less than half a second and returns to the application selector ) and bejeweled having wrong screen resolution ( but ofcourse it's low priority )

Can't test data connections as i'm not on a data plan here, so dont know how that would work out.

Dzo, have a good vacation and i hope you return rested and ready to tackle the rest of the job, respect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
Do you mean in wimo?

I just need to enter my pin before i can disable it.

Thanks for your answer, will try your build, maybe i have sound through my headphones.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
No passcode needed in winmo to remove the sim pin code... eases up booting up in winmo as well, but ofcourse we'd rather have android booting from the start!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Epicardium:
Anthon, I don't have a pin protection on my SIM. I am using radio 1.65.24.36.

I am able to use messaging and my data plan without any problems, so I figure my radio is fine. I just don't have audio of any sorts during calls. System sounds all seem to be wworking fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
I see people mentioning downloading apps...

I do not see the app-store in the menus...

Where from?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ryoojin83:
Google Login

This build isn't able to sync with our google account, correct? Or did I just miss the login place? There are a few apps that won't work because of it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
@shadowline:

Thanks man, your version works for me, android starts and i'm direct in the Internet. THANKS

Only problem is my headphones won't work. All the sound goes through the internal speaker. Is there a setting or so to change this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
2 quick questions...

1. Anyone have the ppp.username and password settings for T-Mo USA?

2. When formatting my SD card, which setting should I use? FAT, FAT32, exFAT, etc.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anthonws:
@Epicardium

Then it's really a mystery... You are using the zip from shadowline, right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adthor:
Same Issue

Interestingly I'm using teh same ROM & radio as you, connecing to O2 in the UK. Going to revert to 21 Jan setup & see if I can connect OK with that.