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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
Orb Networks Users?

Not to distract from the more pressing areas of focus, but are there any other Orb users out there testing with Android? This is one of my most used areas of functionality. I can stream audio from my collection, it launches the music player and streams. But as soon as I switch to another application, the player stops. I want it to continue to play in the background, as it does when playing an MP3 right from the SD Card.

And further, when playing video content, the quality is pretty abysmal. No where near the quality of what I get with WinMo, even though the bitrate is set correctly. And I cant seem to find a way to have it play in full screen landscape mode either which kinda sucks.

The whole UI experience is pretty jacked up actually, when compare with WinMo. There was talk of an Orb app at some point. I think that's what's truly needed here. Just curious if I'm alone in this. Please ignore me if this is too much of a distraction from the true focus of this thread.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
thats odd.. the 3-1 builld fixed my issue with calls. Before I had to make an out going call first or i would loose sound and couldnt hang up..but that issue might of been fixed for me in the 2-27 build as well but i skiped that one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BombaMyte:
That doesn't jive, only because I can't even make an outgoing call, much less receive one. It's been like this for quite a few builds now, so until the next one is released, I'll stick with 02-27. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Actually, I started with the 03-01 version, and I had the call troubles also in the beginning, like after the other party hung up the android would be stuck and other weird stuff. A couple of reboots (and power "outages") later, everything works fine now! Don't know what made it work or didn't, but I didn't do anything specific. That was with Radios 1.71.09.01 and 1.65.29.22...

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
Can someone with the newest version (3-01) using a kaiser with AT&T tilt, in the USA please post their default.txt? I can't get the service to work, and I really want to be able to use android.

I have never been able to download anything and I cannot figure it out.

So, if you live in the USA and use a AT&T tilt with working marketplace, PLEASE post your default and APN settings for me!

THANK YOU
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wornbat:
Hi Cryonic Yep tried that also. It appears that the fix that was put in place earlier to add the /"/" is busted in the latest releases.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
attached... APN settings can be found anywhere.

make sure you togga as soon as you boot - if it doesn't work first time, try again. If that doesn't work, reboot and try again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
Thank you.

What rom and radio are you using?

Edit: I tried that default.txt

I still get the freakin "Download unsuccessful" message, ITS MAKING ME SO MAD!!!!

What could be causing this?????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
Absolutely awesome, Your default txt has given me the gift of internet! Idk what u did differently, but yours works perfect on my tilt! Thank you!

EDIT: Everything works! Market, ect, everything! Very Nice!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
was togga successful? does other internet work?

using dream radio (which you can't have, thanks to cmonex) and HTC stock rom, not that it matters much.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
I have internet, and can start a download in the market place, but it always ends up telling me "download unsuccessful".

If I try to download a pic from the browser, it tells me I have no space.

I just went out and bought a brand new 2gb micro SD card and I am going to try it from scratch with only that on the card, will post results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Make sure the 'cache' folder is being created. Sometimes after a fresh install on you SD card, you have to attempt a Market download first, then reboot and restart Android in order for market apps to download correctly.

At least this is what I have noticed... :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
What type of MicroSD card do you have currently? How much free space does Android show in the settings?

Also, HTC released an official build of 1.1 for the G1 ADP: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/03/software-update-available-for-android.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] andybbtt11:
I just bought a PNY Micro SD 2gb.

Booting android right now, via the march 01 build.

The HTC one ... Should I be using that?

EDIT: After getting the new SD card, things seem to be working. My old one must have crashed.

Thanks for all the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Wifi patch question

Can someone tell me what to do with this? Sounds promising. On one of the google forums, an employee stated that wifi wouldn't work since the magic version number wasn't correct. This patch should echo the correct one and allow wlan.ko to load. I have barely more than no experience with kernels so far so.....

http://junsun.net/linux/android-dream/adp1-kernel-module-version-hack.patch

diff -Nru kernel/scripts/setlocalversion.orig kernel/scripts/setlocalversion
--- kernel/scripts/setlocalversion.orig	2009-01-11 15:38:12.000000000 -0800
+++ kernel/scripts/setlocalversion	2009-01-20 12:18:06.000000000 -0800
@@ -8,6 +8,10 @@

cd "${1:-.}" || usage

+# jun's hack for fooling wlan.ko module
+echo "-01843-gfea26b0"
+exit 0
+
# Check for git and a git repo.
if head=`git rev-parse --verify HEAD 2>/dev/null`; then
# Do we have an untagged version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
newest build problem- In call volume setting does not work.... when increasing and decreasing the volume there is no differences...

has anyone addressed the ECHO issue on all the builds? the caller on the other end still can hear their own echo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] levanvy83:
My togga was successfull and i can connect to internet but i still could not sign in to google to sync.

When starting, i wait for the front panel lights shut off then click run so i can start android without the front panel lights staying lit but when i connect to internet, the lights came back.

How can i shut off the light?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
In more news from around the globe, those at HTC released the 1.1 firmware for the Dev phone. Adds a 0.1 to 1.0, and includes semi working paid apps. <read>

Also my call issue in android seems to be fixed, but not always.... grr..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
Andy; I was getting the same thing, until I formated my SD card, now everything works ok
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
This isn't the problem, the module loads fine, I had already patched the kernel to not check the module version.

I've been looking at the USB code and it looks like it should be possible to get this working. Give me a few weeks to figure it all out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clujalolo:
i have a problem. When i first put android on my phone it worked, the SMS worked great. Now when i ever i text someone, it only shows my texts, and other persons texts are shown at the top of the screen.

EX.

personx: ....

personx: .......

personx: .......

personx: .......

personx: .......

personx: .......

Me: .....

Me: .....

Me: ....

Me: .....

Me: .....

thats what it would look like, so when im texting someone, i always have to scroll up to see what they wrote, it gets really frustrating. It worked at the beginning when i first installed android, and i tried installing it again but same result.

I really want to fix this, im not using android because of this, i text alot and it gets very frustrating scrolling up and down just to read the whole txt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] humble:
Good look

thanks echofloripa i googled and yahooed and no results

edit: o wait i found a site http://www.upkajuy.com/changetype.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] humble:
my findings

when i try to boot this i get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off any other results?

edit: turn wifi on and type the commands in readme sorry. should always read it good
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sswalia:
yeah so i am also having the issue with changing the file type for the zimage. Even when i save target as, I.E saves it as a .txt file, Firefox saves it as a .htm file. Neither of those seem to work with haret for zimages. I'm running vista and the above website doenst have instructions for changing file types in vista.

Can someone hook me up with some instructions- or better yet, an uploaded zimage that works with haret as is?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ib3x:
i got [June 13] L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V7 works and boots all the time, screen freezes

how do i launch apps in android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stevenyu24:
Can't wait for a fully ported android os for kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] forza:
Right click the link, choose "Save Target As", save the file to a folder somewhere. Then in Windows Explorer rename angstrom-console.txt to angstrom-console, openmoko-fso.txt to openmoko-fso and zImage.htm to zImage - If you can't see the extensions to change them choose Tools, Folder Options from the Windows Explorer menu and on the View tab make sure "Hide extensions for known file types" is NOT checked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Gratje:
I wanna know what works? I got the L26 V5 on my kaiser.

It crashes often.

There are no contacts or what so ever. Is there no possibility the create contacts?

scanning media is not working.

is there a list of known bugs?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Th4rg0r:
... what I meant really is seems linux is not stable yet (to a mismatched rom? or spl? donno), or haret, ... how will I figure it's really linux seizing up or android crashing ... or haret (during boot)? By saying it never failed for you doesn't really help, it failed for me ALL the time till I reflashed a new rom ... and tried different harets ... and tried diff. zImages.

And reading around I realised I'm not the only one.

And sorry, I was pretty into the familiar project so just assumed android runs on X. Not into android much so my bad for wrong assumption.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dfellars77:
Just right click save as, choose "all file *.*" from the drop down, then add your own extension (.and). Once it has downloaded, just remove the extension using rename. Quick and easy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
Ok, let's clarify here.. what exactly is your problem? You can't get android/linux to boot? (fails before you ever get the linux console/android gui?)

Or it boots but it tends to freeze up after a few minutes?

The former seems entirely dependant on the base ROM (don't think SPLs are the issue here, most people with custom ROMs would be using the latest .29 release anyway just to stop the WM6.1 sticking issue.). It definitely happens for some people but Dutty's Diamond V1 and L26's Diamond V5/6/7/8 seem to be good starting points. Different versions of Haret have different mileage too but the one linked in the first post and in the kit that dcordes provided seems to be the most reliable (0.52 svn build I believe it is).

The latter (freezing up after a few minutes of operation)... Well I think just about everyone has this, I don't know of anyone specifically identifying the cause of it, but I think it's Android specific and is just android freezing up. It's not that surprising right now as there's still so much groundwork to be done to get Android happy on the Kaiser. (And frankly, the emulator tends to crash regularily too, have you played with the SDK google released?).

Also, if you're having issues with it booting at all please do check your zImage isn't corrupted. I missed this one yesterday while grabbing the new zImage and didn't realise I only had a 1kb zImage! I spent a while wondering why nothing would boot anymore till I caught that.

One last thing, if you're using the openmoko image that's out there, well it plain isn't going to work (probably just get a black screen). As mentioned earlier, X isn't working and thus openmoko/OE/familiar/whatever can't put up a GUI... If anyone can work out why and how to fix it I think there'd be a few happy people around.

(Please note: I have overstressed/simplified points in places, don't feel like I'm talking down to you, There are a few people around here that understand this stuff far better than I anyway :D. It's really that I'd just like this post to help anyone who's a bit confused in working out why they're having boot problems and what to expect even if it does boot).

No problem, easy thing to expect :D I wasn't sure whether Android did rely on X originally myself but I'd assumed it probably didn't as X can be a little unwieldy at times and google would probably have liked something more streamlined and integrated into their design for Android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
Really at the moment this probably shouldn't be considered much more than a proof of concept. We're not using a very robust and full featured copy of android anyway and it's definitely not stable. The google android emulator can be a bit unstable itself too.

Theoretically I think you could add a contact but it's kinda pointless because the device support and system is unfit for use at the moment anyway. Scanning media, we know doesn't work, could be something to do with the fact that we have no support for the SD card at the moment.

There's no official list of known bugs, just take it as granted that if you get as far as the android UI, that's all we can expect at the moment. There's no phone, bluetooth, wifi, battery monitoring, power management or SD card functionality currently. Touchscreen has alignment issues but works, as does the general display and all the buttons/keyboard. GPS has been recently sorted in the kernel but we would have to make some small modification to the android initrd to get android to read from the GPS, plus we have a few other requirements in the first place (GPS must already be initialized in win mobile and there is no way of transferring data to load the maps for example).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Th4rg0r:
I was just trying to find out where should I start my own debugging and hacking. Found what I need, but not here.

console boots fine, with most roms, for that I'm glad. android loads 100% but hangs most times now with new rom (dutty's diamond stripped to almost nothing). But I realized maybe no one knows it's the kernel or google at fault.

And you're wrong again in that assumption of spl ... I was running olipof 1.0 with dutty aprl 1st with no freezing at all. Anyway, if hardspl may cause freezing in winmo, why not linux? ... just got my kaiser a short while, haven't got a chance to look at the spl internals yet. (to clarify, now I'm on 3.28)

And don't feel you talking down to me, don't worry, just riding on different wavelengths.

Th4r

PS: Got this weird feeling that by the time it got stable, htc would have come out a linux phone with android. Heh. Or my spare kaiser would drop into the can and explode. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] humble:
Ok Friends

Back to construction forget destruction

i get this when i try to boot

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

any other results?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] orithm:
Is anyone working on porting a radio for android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Yeah, busy busy.

The thing is modem is working (when you check it trough Linux Console)

But in Andoird radio is still not working :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vj4:
just to check has any body looked at the new files on dated 20/06/08? http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue

im just downloading them now to give em a try welll intrd android anyhow. he ses he's re done the touchscreen drivers. will let u know if i find anything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
The screen and keyboard drivers is for the vogue!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vj4:
yer i know that but arent they in the z image i just tryed the intrd-android. the latest z image on here works fine for me no real differnace. not tryed the gps stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Added in post #1!

WANNA HELP DEVELOPING???

Read: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt (Get's Updated)

URL: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
@ VJ4

Synaptic is ur friend...

EDIT::

And the touch screen is still effed up on the Z on the site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
New battery patch - please test

Hi all,

after I've played with the battery sensing chip a bit, it seems that WinMo is not really caring about it, so I decided to go ahead and do a correct implementation.

Can you please test the new kernel and tell me what it does for you?

Application hints:

First let the battery run down until the phone shuts down. That will reset the capacity counter to 0 when it should be 0. (You only need to do that once.)

Then start up, charge fully.

In the last minutes of the charge the value may

stay at 100% for a while - your battery has more capacity than expected

jump to 100% suddenly - your battery has less capacity than expected

Leave on power, open a command line and type

dmesg

Somewhere you should find some lines like

ds2746: 4211mV 2mA charge: 100/100 (1900 units)

If the mA value is above 10mA, then charging is not finished and you should wait a bit longer.

When the charging is done please note the "units" value and report back. I have something like 1900 for my 1600mAh battery, which I cannot explain. We'll see what it gives for you.

After this procedure, the charge should be calculated most correctly until you reboot, because with a reboot the maximum value will be lost.

However, if you don't change batteries, you may add a kernel command line parameter to your default.txt:

set cmdline "[...] board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity=1600 [...]

This will initialise the capacity in mAh (default: 1350). You can read the current value through

cat /sys/module/board_kaiser_battery/parameters/battery_capacity

and change it through echoing to that file.

I hope I was clear on everything, waiting for you feedback :)

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@Stefan: running your zImage to test
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kulen:
Is this good for Polaris also?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imfloflo:
The zImage should be good for polaris too, but the battery fix shouldn't work for our polaris unlessseidler2547 fix the polaris battery value too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kulen:
Seidler2547,

Could you do this also for Polaris, please?

Or somebody else?

Unfortunately, we have lack of developers for Polaris so we can only jelauslly watch what is going on with Kaiser Android progress.

Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
Ok, Kernel is on my phone, I'll be doing speedtests until the battery dies :)

UPDATE: Phone shut itself down, despite initally reading 61% in Android, it quickly put up a warning screen saying something about 15% - and then shortly after shutdown. Now to charge :)

UPDATE: ds2746 4121mV 898mA charge: 100/100 (2397 units)

Continuing to charge.

UPDATE: ds2746 4179mV 3mA charge: 100/100 (3246 units)

Ok, after it was finished charging, Shutdown Android, started WinMo edited default.txt accordingly and now booted back into Android. Battery level showing 86% now - will charge and monitor.

dmesg now shows ds2746 4179mV 54mA charge: 86/100 (4494 units)

Strange.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] seidler2547:
Ok guys thanks for the feedback. Actually, the only Kaiser-specific thing left in this patch is the filename and maybe the R_SNS (which doesn't affect percentage) and battery capacity (which can be set). So it should work for polaris, too. I checked the code and it seems to use exactly the same h/w. I'm a bit new to this, and I don't own a Polaris, so can someone tell me if there are any differences in compiling a kernel for Polaris and Kaiser? I have them both checked in the .config, so I suspect the zImage could be run on a Polaris, too? Can someone try/explain/etc.?

Stefan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lanwin:
Hi, first let me thanks Dzo, Shadowline and the others for there work.

My problem is that i cant get internet to work with 01-03-09. This version dose not shows any signal strength, no g icon and togga is not able to connect. 23-02-09 and 27-02-09 show me the signal strength the g icon appears and i can connect with togga. Ive tryed different zImages, the last from 4.3. and i used the same data.img and default.txt for all tests.

May this is because i am not able to remove the pin code of my sim. Ive tryed different pins but it always tells me that my passcode is not the correct or old if i try to disable it in the phone settings dialog. The second is that i need to use a http proxy. This works with the browser and also with the gmail app.

The second problem is that i can not get the market download to work. It always tells me "Start downloading". Ive created the cache folder on my sd card and i can install apps from my sd card. It is a 8GB Sanddisk card which currently 339MB free. May the http proxy settings is not used for the market app.

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jinth0688:
try setting your timezone and time manually, then shut down, ,start up android again, set your time manually and see if that solves your problems
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imfloflo:
Thanks rogro82 a polaris owner works on the zimage and merge his modification with the same git from dzo so kaizer,vogue,polaris can use the same zImage we just have to specify the MTYPE to use different part of it.

I read they set up, specific function like ....ispolaris() iskaiser() to use specific code.

If you need some information on polaris just ask on our thread we 'll be happy to give you and try new zimage ;)

thanks.

hope this explaination is clear :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
dzo, thanks for letting me know (saving me some time). Can you tell me how you patched the kernel to do that? If you can show me that I might be able to add less suck to my attempts to get these bugs fixed. What do you think about the tiwlan0 issue where it can be assigned arbitrary IPs but ifconfig shows nothing (think this is a general issue with Android though) but the wifi settings manager (according to dmesg) deactivates the interface completely. I'm trying to get this working with limited experience-- any feedback helps me out. Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
If you enter the wrong PIN code three times, it should lock you out and ask for a PUK code. Then you will need to call your carrier and get a PUK code. After entering it, it should ask you to make a new PIN. That way you will know it and can uncheck the "Require PIN to use the phone" checkbox in Windows Mobile after setting it.

Can you download files successfully from the browser? Have you rebooted after creating the cache folder?