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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] snarebum:
tried the latest build and it freezes up on me when it says loading linux.

i know i have everything put in the right folder.

/storage card/Android/default,harret,z-image

/storage card/data,system,initrd

idk what else it could be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slux:
just tried DZO's latest zip package. and whoo!!! Calls work perfectly, as do sms. Screen rotation is still upside down and the android splash screen is offset. Screen calibration is ok, but some of the other images from two weeks ago were better I think (more responsive to screen taps)

Backlight works well - fades and led turns red (not sure why) when screen blanks out, and it wakes up properly now. still no battery indicator.

The biggest problem for me still is that I cant get data to work. I am on O2 Uk and I get the G but no data if I start Togga I also get the up and down arrow flash but still it fails to connect :-(

Check all my settings, but going to double check again.

Oh... and I started with a completely clean (formatted) sd card for this test too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Might be your radio, make sure to use 1.71 radio. If you don't know what that is, please stop trying to fix it, but read through the pages & wikis for flashing roms and radio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] snarebum:
wrong radio version

i think that could be the problem.

i checked my radio and its 1.57.502.2

so ill flash my radio and then try.

thanks for the info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jaseglast:
@ SLUX

I am also on O2 UK and i have data, calls and sms working using DZO's latest (android-09-02-09.zip) files

Try setting the following line as below in default.txt:

set cmdline "ppp.apn=mobile.o2.co.uk ppp.username=\"\" ppp.password=\"\" pm.sleep_mode=1 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

Took lots of playing around but works most of the time. (Still have to use Togga first). If you get togga or phone processes erroring, delete your data.img, copy data.gz to your storage card and start again.

I have deleted existing APN's from within Android.

Adding a blank APN called O2 (ok'ing error message) gives me the G symbol.

On a side note if you rename "default.txt" to "startup.txt" then linux boots straight away when you load HaRET.

Hope this helps
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Full working package for testing

Does anybody have some full package that is working for testing? Maybe there is just something cached somewhere if you say, that it works for you but not for me...

What I mean is:

kernel, data, initrd, system and apps in one bundle that is working for you.

I tried to delete everything from my SD, watching carefully for bootup log, it just waited a while saying something strange about removing data.img and then just moved on and booted Androind fine. Everything works like charm only waking up from Powersafe not...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slux:
I now have the latest package from DZO running fine (including data) but I am not using the same radio as you - I have it running on both 1.70.19.09 and 1.65.24.36 I did format the sdcard first to make sure it was clean as I was getting all sorts of wierdness from previous packages. I downloaded using the links at the start of this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wanderso:
Biscuits:

Thanks for taking the effort to test. I'm sure this will not be the last QVGA vs HVGA screen size issue we see. Hopefully, we can convince the (commercial app) developers to scale to a variable screen size. This will become easier as WVGA and other size screen Android devices hit the streets.

Have you logged a bug at Nitro? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
Data works for me, but never in EDGE areas, only in 3g area. Last night I booted the phone in an EDGE area, no data. Left it booted all night, and then was able to use TOGGA to make a connection once I got to town.

The day prior, I simply booted Android (while in 3g area) and data was working immediately.

Rotation works too! I'm set on running Android full-time for the time being, as the base level functionality is there now.

The next big step for me would be getting the battery meter working :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
Is there a way to throw that into a zip with the latest files to make one package as well? If We could do that I'd appreciate it, also, if I get you FTP access, can you make it auto-upload to my server as a mirror?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
Sure, that can be done. I wrote the script, if you send me the details of your ftp server and access in pm i'll put it in
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
In case anyone was curious about battery life. Using dzo's image from post #2904 I ran android for 15 hours yesterday, with average usage for myself (quite a bit sms, and an hourish total talk time). At the end I rebooted into Windows Mobile and 40% battery life.

During the 15 hours I had only one problem in which I had to reboot....

Do note that I do get random error messages, but they seem to random and for now I just ignore them. I had no reports of missed calls or texts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bluenfee:
Testing out the latest build:

I'm having trouble getting data to work. I have all the parameters set for AT&T in default.txt but I'm still not getting anything. Toga just hangs on trying to connect.

I'm also having trouble accessing the task manager and the shut down menu. Holding the button down brings up the menu, but once I release the button the menu drops.

I'm loving the platform, keep up the awesome work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
I had the same before: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3290503&postcount=2887

I did not test Android that much with AXP pack yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
Try the default.txt from okibi's post #2894 .

Just double check the power setting is on 1 for dzo's image (but I believe it is already).

I have AT&T and use these setting in the default.txt

You just have to boot and load toga. No need to set APN.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
android.ace-com.cz is down

I am sorry, I have some problems with DNS server... the domain should be up and running soon, but now it is not reachable :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
It still says

after i copied the default-kaiser to default, it still says the same thing, anyone know why?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bally3:
Keep at it, it'll be well worth it in the end.

Rogro posted that he's asked for the Polaris changed to be added so we should all benefit from your efforts hopefully :)

Edit: I can reach the domain in your signature: http://android.ace-com.cz/kernel/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
I have sent an e-mail to their support to see if they plan on extending support for QVGA devices. Hopefully with the 'enabling this will enlarge your customer-base footprint' pitch will get their attention. :D

UPDATE: Got a quick response from them -- they said they are very willing to work with their release to work on QVGA. They're wondering if the current Android emulator supports QVGA for them to test? If not, I volunteered. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
it is really ridiculous, cause some requests gets the right way and many more of them just time out... I am still investigating where is the problem, but I had put in also automatical mirroring to other servers, so hopefully we will have it at last somewhere :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Thats great news. i'm sure many of us here would also be willing to help test any software they need tested, at least until a more official qvga phone comes out. Which i think we will find out in a few days from barcelona.

Also since we are on the subject. This might be something of interest that was mentioned here a bit, but not many know about it AFAIK.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=475030
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] aximilation:
My server being one of those, if all goes correctly, we should start seeing those show up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bobhoil:
Well I have been wondering if there are any 3d games I can test on this. I have it running but have been hoping 3d would be working better. I tested on of the dev apps and it didn't slow down on the one where you rotate the cube with the screen. I was hoping to see if it was the same for games!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Diznario:
Syncing Gmail contacts with Android?

A hair off topic maybe, but does anyone know how to get our contact lists merged into Android?

I've exported my contacts from Outlook to a CSV file, and then imported that into my Gmail account, but now I can't seem to get Android to sync up with Gmail.

In Android, I think you need to create a new sync group, and then enter in your Gmail account info in order to sync them up. Unfortunately, I can't seem to create a new sync group, and whenever I click the button to create one it just quits out of the menu.

Has anyone else been able to sync up their contacts yet?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
as far as I know

that doesn't work yet because it doesn't work yet in the cupcake branch, which is what kernel our devs are working with. Hopefully, when those things become working in cupcake, then they will work for us, but I'm not positive about this, can anyone else chime in?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Cupcake is a dev branch in itself. It will never be stable, only features from it will be added to the official builds and updates. At least that's what they have been saying. (anyone want to make a system.img from a non cupcake build and try it?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
The best solution I could find was to send as many contacts to my sim card as possible, and then import them all into android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
That is the easiest if you dont have that many, for loads of contacts, I used funamobil i believe it was called, but in the end i just copied my most important contacts to the sim and just did it that way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Akara1:
looks like a battery driver has been posted to the git? can anyone package this up?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
It's not quite ready yet, give me 20 mins.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
For the people with the nightly builds...

Could you all possibly create a symbolic link that would always point to the newest kernel image?

(Or if your server doesn't support that, upload the file twice so there is zImage[date] and zImage-latest that gets overwritten every night)

It's not a huge deal, but it could be convenient for linking purposes on the Wiki, etc.

Also: I just tested okibi's latest build. I had an active data connection before booting and was able to immediately use data in Android without Togga or configuring settings. Everything worked great though from rotation/orientation to sleeping. The biggest issues are just resolution issues.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
well, it doesn't actually work yet, so...

and @people mentioning sim access: what? I have been completely unable to access the sim for any function... dunno if I have the very latest...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
OK, a kernel with an experimental battery driver is at:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage-kaiser

I don't know if it really works cos my battery is fully charged.

It doesn't do charging, only displays the battery status.

I suspect during power collapse it will charge anyway.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
Using Sim Manager I am able to add up to 250 contacts to my sim, and then dump them all at once into android.

Once in the contacts app for android press menu and click on the import contacts. Then press menu again to import all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Confirmed that battery status is working (94% which is accurate on mine), also confirmed there is no working charging indicator yet. But has gone up in percentage since I've had it running (plugged in before booting though)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
my status LED's started to tweak out when i went to stand-by in the latest kernel..it now flashes the red LED while awake and flashes orange LED in sleep
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I noticed something odd like that too, although it was really fast orange, red, really fast orange... etc. And battery charges even if you plug it in after booting aswell.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Testing notes :

Audio is not working for me in the latest kernel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
The New ROM does not get noticed as MSM7500. But it boots-up all the time tho.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I know i know. but I can always hope right? plus when it does work, hopefully it wont need any editing on my part... Im just lazy like that.

and trying the newest rom from dutty seems to boot every time so far. but this rom does work a whole lot better otherwise (no random freezing)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
I had no random freezing in dutty's may 22nd either so far. Maybe it is just the latest haret that makes things work. I couldn't think of any other reason than memory usage that does a change in booting linux between the different roms.

If you can't wait talking to the modem in android, just boot up with the latest zImage havin phone activated in wince and call your kaiser :-) see what happens. It's not awesome but you can see it lives
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
:s don't get it.

So you call you're phone from android??? What is the number then??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
I'm guessing that it's like, dial your kaiser's number from another phone and it should show an incoming call?

Edit: Gave this a shot myself (First attempt to boot android anyway). It boots fine and very quickly, If I try to call my kaiser then it rings on the calling phone but my kaiser does nothing. I guess this demonstrates that the GSM module has remained active but android doesn't recieve the relevant messages in order to react to the call. Is there a newer zImage than the one on the first post that I'm missing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Ditto. I'm not sure if it's something i'm missing, or doing wrong, but I do not see anything happen when recieving calls or text...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] blogzter:
nothing wrong, it's just that there's no active radio for android yet that works on kaiser.

senior members, am i right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
Well, the thing is that dcordes left this message earlier:

Kinda took it as implication that android on the kaiser would do something if you tried calling in to it. As I said though, nothing happens ON the kaiser. The calling phone will ring which means the GSM Module stayed active but wouldn't it potentially just do this anyway as long as it wasn't specifically deactivated?

This is why we're asking if there's a newer zImage or something that causes it to react to the call. I do remember it being mentioned a while back that it was possible to read the incoming information for SMS and call notification, just not yet possible to talk back to the GSM module.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
HE ment that he can't wait to get the radio to work to make calls from Android.

Not that he is able to make callsd a.t.m.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
I think you misunderstand me.. I know you can't make calls from Android, I thought he meant you could (kinda) recieve them. As in like, it'd have an incoming call notifier or something. Does sound even work under android even if the radio did?

Anyway, whether the radio does anything or not yet, this is some really cool work guys. I'm really boggled at the sheer speed that things are being improved on the Kaiser and I really do wish you the best of luck :D

Edit: For note, I have the O2 XDA Stellar (KAIS130) and I plan to be testing the new releases for Android as they come out :D Let me know if I can lend a hand with testing. Also I have a server that sits mostly idle. Unfortunately my connection isn't amazing (16mbps/1.2mbps roughly) but I'm willing to offer temporary/backup mirroring, compile time (it's a dual xeon 2.66 with HT, and it compiles like the wind baby!), etc. I helped out with this kinda stuff for someone working on porting linux to the RX3715 I had a while back. (And yes, it does have NX if you want remote GUI sessions).

Edit2 : Server runs gentoo linux, Just FYI.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
Thx for the support. Just check the thread and you will see when new zImages release. So you guys can test them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
1.) exactly - It showed up "received sms from 00000000" when I called my kaiser while it was in android with latest zImage. Android definetly sets up the device node for AT communication correctly so it should be able to read. But it's setup for CDMA, not GSM so it can't process the incoming data correctly. Otherwise you could even receive sms.

Anyway that is unimportant for now and I just wanted to show that the basics for making the phone work are already partially present.

2.) This is, just like the AT thing, also a kernel level question in first place. We need to get a thing working which is called msm_proc_comm to be able to get the audio from arm9->arm11.

Regarding userland, that is no problem. With openmoko and its new variations we already have a perfectly working distro with a complete GUI for our GSM needs. Don't know what's present in the android world for GSM. dzo should know more about it, or read up in the android development documentation if present.

And thanks a lot for the offerings. Testers are always welcome. You could do some openembedded builds for kaiser with your server later when we have more stuff working and kaiser needs well maintenance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
I also get the notification about an incoming sms from unknown, but i dont call myself. It appears when i enter maps. Kinda strange.

Edit: It happens all the time. Just appears at random on the screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
That's why it workes on the Vogue right??? Cause that phone is a CDMA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nontrivial:
Android on HTC Universal

I have an HTC Universal (T-Mobile MDA Pro, actually) that I would love to get Android working on. I have tried to get other flavors of linux running but they all have various issues. At this point QTopia is furthest along but it has some issues. Currently running WM6.1, so if you need Android tested on the Universal let me know.

James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/telephony/gsm/package-summary.html

Android evidentally has packages and code included for GSM, though that documentation hardly appears to be in-depth, it just mentions there's classes for dealing with GSM phones.

Ah cool, fix one and you'll pretty much automatically fix the other then?

... We have OpenMoko on the kaiser? When did this happen? **goes to search/google**

No problem :D As far as I know it's still set up with all the stuff to make open embedded builds because of the RX37xx ports but I don't really know too much about how that's rigged up. It was done by another guy, whom I just gave an ssh account to and then I emerged the packages he asked for.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
alright so we solved this mystery :)

Just look out for a GSM android filesystem

right, plus the at communication works both directions on vogue already which is kernel level.

yea right. There is metadata for the kaiser in openmebedded so you can build openmoko images with it. Look at this openmoko-fso image I built for the kaiser http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser/special-initrd.zip

make X start and you're da man!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marajin:
Ah so it's not actually as functional as Android yet? I'll have a look at it later I suppose. Does it need a specific zImage or is the android one fine?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
The zImage is not distro specific. It is just the linux kernel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
How is the new zImage going??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
Nice work dzo. Could we use the next zimages also on the polaris (because Rogro added the polaris files)?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Audio should be fixed now and leds don't flash, zImage-kaiser is in the same place and I've updated the zip file.

I also added the board-vogue.h file to git so it should compile now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
The current build should boot on polaris, I can't test it though.

Just set the correct mtype.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AXP:
I updated my pack with latest dzo image:

http://narod.ru/disk/5592938000/android_kaiser_android-dev.ru_2009-02-10.zip.html

For download just print numbers from image and hit Enter
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
nice audio works..leds are normal, battery reads 76%
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imfloflo:
To boot on POLARIS ONLY change the MTYPE in the defaul.txt that's all nothing else?

And what should we use in the default.txt for this value for polaris. we must change it to?

set RAMSIZE 0x07000000
set RAMADDR 0x10000000
set FBDURINGBOOT 0

"msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
@imfloflo: You have to set the mtype to 1723
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slux:
battery meter works but android reports 50% when wm reports 36%

Data works (by opening ie, launching Android then connecting using Togga)

sms works

Calls work (audio through the earpiece)

havn't tried music yet

Screen still rotates the wrong way when sliding the keyboard

edit: led was working normal - not sure what I have done but now its stuck permanently on green.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
I seem to have noticed that once you open a data connection you cant get sleep to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Updated to contain the latest working kernel with the battery driver:

http://slackthebox.com/android/Android2-10-09.zip

Data works

Calls work

SMS works

Music works

Screen rotates properly

Boot splash is correct

Battery works (and charges)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Hellmasterita:
good work!!

im using official ITA rom with 1.65 radio tested also with 1.71

i have 1 problem after phone goes in sleep mode led light become red and display shows vertical lines. After that phone went not responsive.

another problem (small problem) playing video with media player was in black and white.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
SDK 1.1 has been released.

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-1.1.html

Is that good for us?