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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I was doing 1% per 6 hours when every single thing on the phone was turned off. Obviously, I can't use the phone like this. I just need to locate the setting that is causing the drain. At one point or another, I have tried turning each one of those settings off. Only when they were ALL off, the drain went down to 1% overnight.

I'll try Airplane mode with SYNC off tonight.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
This issue is so inconsistent that I can't even diagnose it properly!!

I could not go into airplane mode tonight so I tried something else.

Auto sync - off

Wifi - Off

Mobile Data - Off

Bluetooth - Off

Wifi/Bluetooth scanning - Off

Adaptive battery - On

Screen down, so no radar, motion detection or always on display

From 31% to 25% (6%) in 7 hours.

[MENTION=465664]DSF[/MENTION]: Do you have a list of the non-google applications you have installed on your phone? Maybe we can find an obscure similarity that may be draining the battery.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
You must have an app draining it. Did the test again overnight with all my same settings as my previous post.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I don't have an app draining it, because the drain continues under SAFE MODE where all 3rd party apps are disabled.

Try it when the battery is at 70-80%. It seems to be draining slower when the battery is at 100%.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I had a lot of Huawei apps transferred to the Pixel when I migrated them initially. It's a good idea to remove those. You don't need them anyway. :)

These are the apps that match, but none of them is an obscure one. They are all popular apps. I guess that the issue is not with an app misbehaving.

Airbnb
Booking.com
Facebook
IMDb
Instagram
Messenger
Netflix
Reddit
Shazam
Skype
Slack
Snapseed
WhatsApp
Wizz Air
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
hehe, I've switched from OnePlus 5 so not that much of bloatware :D

Regarding apps being the culprit. Yes, i don't think those are the problem.. unless apps are hiding under Google Play Services or Android System.

I have attached some screenshots with running services, nothing weird. Checked with BBS, same, nothing weird.

Are you using Location History and Google fit? I do, but shouldn't be an issue when the phone is flat down and not moving.

Deep sleep works fine on mine, confirmed by BBS.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Yes, I am using both Location History and Google Fit for one of the attached accounts.

I was also worried about the phone not going to Deep Sleep, but AccuBattery showed that this isn't the case.

I guess I'll try Airplane mode tonight with the Auto-sync and auto-update features off.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Hmm, maybe the issue is related to this then? [MENTION=3163375]sruel3216[/MENTION] are you using Location History and Google fit?

Btw, I've tried with "Automatic system updates" off (from Developer options) and no difference for me: 6% (70% -> 64%) in 8h1m.

As per description: "Apply updates when device restarts".
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
See pic of my phone set up. I do not have Google fit but have Samsung health with Galaxy watch active always connected.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Yes, i saw that already but haven't found any mention of Google Location History
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Yes I have location history and high accuracy on
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
I forgot to mention that last night I turned off location completely.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
I've made another test.

- Updated to February patch (3.02.2020)

- Deactivated Now Playing

- Cleared cache for Google & Google Play Services apps followed by a restart. Those apps were appearing in battery stats. In general when this happens, the phone gets warmer while using.

- Charged the phone till 100% and used it a bit

- Other settings the same as stated here unless mentioned.

#1 Got 4% in 8h46m (86% -> 82%)

#2 Got 4% in 8h7m (81% -> 77%)

#3 Got 5% in 8h56m (99% -> 94%)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
My standby battery was never good (like 8-9% for 8 hours at night). But anybody tried changing from 4G networks to 3G preferred under Mobile Network settings?

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Godzi:
Yes. I did that a week ago, because VoLTE is not supported by my carrier on the Pixel 4 anyway.

I do not notice any difference in battery life.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
It's hit or miss for me lol.

The other day didn't lost 0% in 6 hours.

Last night I lost 4% in 8 hours with same set up
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Yes, and same as [MENTION=2184431]Godzi[/MENTION] - no difference..

Are you using Idle lock screen (AOD) and/or Motion Sense?

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Still 4% is decent. Did you let the phone below 100% this time? The first 1% percent from 100% "drains" slower. In my case i can go over 15min of SOT from 100% (right of the charger) to 99%.

Last night I lost 6% (64% -> 58%) in 10h3m.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
I'm not using AOD. But I'm using motion sense with reach to check phone

Sent from my Pixel 4
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Can you try one night with Motion Sense off? And post the results? Maybe you will save 2-3%
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
I always charge to 100 before bed. Last night I lost 6% lol. Carrier services and Samsung health drained mine. I'm going to try stock kernel this week

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I always charge to 100 before bed. Last night I lost 6% lol. Carrier services and Samsung health drained mine. I'm going to try stock kernel this week
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Well, the battery is inconsistent on mine too. But in my case not because of Carrier services or another app (?). I am using MiFit with MiBand 4, but with notifications turned off.

Prev night, 6% in 8h17m (75% - 69%)

2 nighs before, 3% in 7h39min (86% -> 83%)

Same settings as posted here.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] bobby janow:
Mifit is always near the top of my list overnight. On BBS 'awake with screen off' is what bugs me most of all. I mean really with DND on that should shut it all down until morning. Best I have gotten, usually after a reboot, is 0.5% / hour but lately it's been around 0.8%. I'll give it a quick charge then and I'm good for the day usually. Just saw an article this morning for super duper battery saver which might be coming. Whatever that is.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
That happened to me when I've used AdGuard private DNS..
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] bobby janow:
Interesting. I use blokada or private VPN. I'll try turning them off tonight, force stop mifit and see what happens.

0.6% / hr last night. That's more like it.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
This is the standby drain I face at a location I stay 9 nights per month

Still not sure what the real issue is. But as a reference at home I have 8-12% drain per night (8 hours) .

Here I had much more like 30% or more.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] bobby janow:
That happens to me too sometimes when I stay a a hotel or motel and I'm not sure why. The awake with screen off is troublesome to me. It's showing 2 hours overnight which is probably a lot of idle drain. You might want to submit a log file to BBS per their instructions, which are a little burdensome, and they will analyze it for you. They're pretty good at it from what I can tell.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
Thanks I'll try to submit this next Tuesday.

Last night at home had a good battery life (7% in 7 hours). But here standby is always ok. (Maybe a bit more than 9% per night)

I tried disabling motion sense (I don't think this impact battery a lot) and tap to check phone. (I think this consumes some standby battery but not confirmed).
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
I lost 4% in 8 hours over night after a factory reset. So basically the same battery as before. Carrier Services is what is draining my battery in standby. What does carrier service do?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
I had a problem with carrier services when I used the new chat feature for Android messages. check to see if it's enabled

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turn off your wifi if you're not using it... why are you on 4g with the wifi radio on. you do know this drains battery right?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
Yeah I figured it's from the rcs enabled. What a bad trade off...
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
I think I further improved standby time by disabling all this

Only one I left is BBS.

I'm not suffering any negative impact so far

Also this app because it was appearing a little bit in BBS

And disabled RCS (chat features) in Messages app.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
How much %/h in standby?

Overnight i get from 0.5-1% per hour (so about 4-6% in 8h).

Nothing is consistent for me with same setup. I've started to accept the average battery life of the regular Pixel.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
When commuting or when the phone is not in deep sleep, it consumes more. Anyway, here is an average.

Smooth display on, motion sense off, idle screen off, wifi.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
Same overnight as you. this night I got 6% in 8 hours day

Some night 8% but I used to get min 9% overnight a month ago and 30% in worst situations (a place where enterprise WiFi sucks and drains battery like crazy)
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
yeah when the battery is at a lower percentage past 100 I drain about 2-3 percent in 5 hours.. I do have something waking the phone up every hour to an hour and a half . you can see it in the graph.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] mironiko:
Does anybody use their Pixels with AOD off and Motion Sense on..? How's that affecting the battery..?

And, with that setup, when you reach for you phone, does it turn on the screen when the radar is triggered?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
yes Soli will turn on the screen when triggered. I just leave Soli off and use the double tap feature if I wanna quick peak at notifications.. it's more of a single tap to wake now.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] cswithxda:
After about 5 months of using the phone, it's getting uglier in the past 2 weeks. No changes to the app or settings, and it used to be estimated at 1 day and more, yet it looks like this now.

Really starting to suspect it's certain hardware issue. Not only did standby time become total crap (8-hour overnight at almost 20% total), but also as soon as I lightly use the phone for a couple of minutes, it gets quite hot.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Try to clear Google play services cache
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] cswithxda:
Yeah I did that and even cleared its data, it didn't do much. I am flashing May update right now and praying for the best.

EDIT: I dirty flashed May patch and the GP services now seem to behave a little. Drain was 2% over the past 8 hours. Don't know how long this goodness would last.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
your google play services was really high. try and compare it now.

the update in the background was probably causing the high usage and battery drain.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] cswithxda:
It's back to normal, estimated at 1 day 1 hr. Weird thing is I have always disabled the auto update since day one under developer's option. Also had a blacklist item of ota.googlezip.net. Don't know why it would still check for update in the background.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] JoeHockey:
Mine has also started to drain really quickly over the last few days. I don't think I've added any new apps recently so I have no idea what's going on. What is the best way to try to track what is using battery?
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
Is probably just software. Google app, Google play services. Android system, etc

Etc
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] cswithxda:
It was total luck. I previously wrote that I blacklisted ota.googlezip.net in adaway with the intention to block the ota download and potential battery drain (inherited from Nexus ages). Ironically that was the problem.

A week or two ago the idle drain went skyrocket again. I though oh it's probably June/July ota check and I'd have to find half an hour someday to dirty flash the phone again. Somehow I opened system update menu and wanted to see if there is an OTA available even though I know root would probably block it. As soon as I started the update check, the loading bar flashed in madness, so I thought hey if this was happening in the background the battery would not even last 18 hours like it had done that day. So I went into adaway and unlisted googlezip.net, and within 24 hours, the battery life estimate went up to 1 day 5 hours from the previous 18 hours.

So that was my story. See if you can catch any similar lead:fingers-crossed:
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] netinetinet:
https://www.xda-developers.com/goog...sion-feature-android-11-improve-battery-life/

I trying if this help
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] thesebastian:
Interesting. I wonder how well it works!

Sent from my Pixel 5
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] jalado:
make sure wifi and Bluetooth scanning are disabled

disable adaptive battery

disable auto sync
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Google Pixel 4's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] johnny8910:
Considering it only has a 2800MaH battery, it's not that bad.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Google Pixel 4's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] johnny8910:
Google did a good job with Stanby drain. I'm getting 0.7-1.0 % drain per hour.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Software Guy:
The first few days battery life was horrible. While it's improved, I do question WTF is going on with it. I've had screen on time less than 20 minutes today and it's at 88%. Granted I'm playing pokeymon go for half that but still. My Pixel 3 was better.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] mikev190:
After having it for a week the battery has improved significantly for me. Under light usage (social media, few YouTube videos etc) I'm at half battery 22 hours since last full charge.

It's pretty amazing considering the battery size. Plus they will probably improve it more with firmware updates
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] sruel3216:
How's everyone's battery? I'm in a s10+ now but wanna possibly go back to a pixel. I want a smaller phone but can't decide between the 4 or the xl cuz of battery
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] TigerCourage:
For me it has been terrible, worse than my Moto Z2 Force with the same battery capacity and a 2 year old processor, even worse, the phone is actually slower in day to day apps except games. It also keeps less apps in memory against my European Z2 Force running Android 9 Pie and 6GB of RAM. Only got 3 hours of screen on time and had to charge at 7PM from 8AM.

I'm sending it back in the morning.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the Google Pixel 4 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Google Pixel 4 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Google Pixel 4 is a beautiful phone.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Ves:
Still odd they didn't go with matt black.

Overall it looks slick and the camera bump isn't that bad but still there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
no one has really tweaked the Kaiser. I was browsing a website (hackaday).com and they do some crazy out of this world things. How come no one has figured out a way to put an IRDA port on a Kaiser or something really useful. I have steady hands and I'm good at opening stuff. Would that be possible to incorporate the IRDA port of lets say an Ipaq phone and install it in the Kaiser? I think this phone would be bad ass if I could control everything in my house with my phone. Just wondering if it was possible or if any of you guys were members of that website. What do you guys think.

I mean for gods sake. They turned a freaking phone into a TAZER. How freaking cool is that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] whk:
You know you are right!

I have a couple of jet skis - but it would be cool if I could say - "hey - I am out at the lake and forgot my jet skis - can I use my Kaiser for that?"

Can anyone here help me put a motor on the Tilt with an impeller and I guess I will need a seat?

;)

Oh - and now that it is a little larger - I will need someone to make a holder for me as well? (it will have to fit on my belt by the way.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
Haven't we done this before?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395334
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DaveShaw:
Doesn't dutty have a CAB for that (and oldie, but a goodie) :D

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Ok I am aware of the thread opened for the IRDA port. I'm just saying no one has attempted to tweak a Kaiser.

One the website they turned an Xbox 360 into a Laptop, Wii as a Laptop, etc. The point I'm trying to make is that no one has attempted to play around with the inner workings.

*** Second Post, thanks for your sarcasm but it was pointless. Check out the website and you'll see what I'm talking about. There are people with amazing talent on that site.***
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] whk:
You are welcome - and everything does not have to have a point does it? If so the point was you can strap a bill on a goat but that does not make it a duck!

If you need the IRDA functionality - rather than take it apart - void any chance of a warranty - strap on a port wire it up - have additional issues - why not actually purchase a phone/unit with an IRDA port on it?

Re: there are people with amazing talent on that site -yup - over here our guys are toads - don't got a lick a sense between em. ;)

Several french fries short of a happy meal - the lot of us.

Well - that sums up my entertainment for the morning!

Bill
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Anyway..... any other input from other people.

Bill why would I buy another phone if I like this one. That's like people buying a Honda and customizing it to their liking. (adding rims, spoiler, turbo tint, blah blah blah etc) They could buy Mugen Honda which has all that stuff combined but they'd rather prefer the satisfaction of doing it themselves. Catch my flow? I like my phone and want to mess around with it more that's all I was saying. I don't see anyone laughing so obviously either you are not funny or nobody cares what you have to say.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
I personally have always thought of this site as great (or simple) minds getting together to improve the functionality of the

phone

not to see if we can turn our phones into something that no longer resembles a phone.With all the wild cooking and software development the basic premise of will it make it a better phone has always held.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Jonathan1683:
How would this even work there is no hardware for it. It doesnt make any sense you think someone is going to engineer a new board and electronics for you ? If anyone had that kind of talent they wouldent be waisting it for free. :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
OK check out hackaday. THey have mad talent and they post instructions on how to do it yourself. So yes they do it for free most of the time.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 4 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
The matte back of the white (and orange) pixel feels so good! So smooth and no fingerprints! Wish other manufacturers are offering this solution too!
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 4 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Ves:
I have small male hands and even on the regular 4 it can be a stretch when going from top to bottom.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] bobby janow:
It's a great feel, even better than my 3a or the P3. I just wish I didn't have to have a thin clear glass case on it because it just takes a little away from it. But I simply can't afford to drop it and it break. It's a really nice device, even better than the iPhone 11 Pro which is larger and thicker.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] DSF:
Coming from the OnePlus 5 (which is a larger phone, about 10g lighter, thinner) the Pixel 4 feels much heavier and feels so thick..but i appreciate the small factor. Wish it had somehow rounded sides (not edge screen) and better weight distribution.

The matte white feels so good! So smooth and no fingerprints! Wish other manufacturers are offering this solution too!
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Google Pixel 4. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] Ves:
Still odd Play Music is removed when not all features have made it over to YouTube Music app. For the rest as clean as you can get it.
[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Google Pixel 4's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

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[Google Pixel 4 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Google Pixel 4's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.

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