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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Appearently the newest package fixed an issue that caused the official Last.FM player to stop working. It is now working pretty well (when you have a good 3G connection, otherwise its like a 2 min delay between tracks.)

Also on my most recent setup using the newest package (and a fresh SD Card) I was able to connect in togga WITHOUT setting the APN in the settings menu. Just in the Default.txt

Edit: A lot of applications that did not want to load up before are now working as well. Almost all that I tried worked, only Shazzam and imeem did not work. (though they did load)

Working reliable data, and sms as well. I have the issue with the front keypad while in standby as well, but it happens on and off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
Latest kernel from this morning commit
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wim26:
Let's try!!! i'll post the findings!

I cant get it in sleepmode (pressing the red disconnect button)....not with the powerbutton nor the red disconnect button.

The device locks up when not active for a few seconds. Can't get it back (because menu button still isn't working).

So rebooting again! %!@@#%&

Keep up the good work!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sharkaat:
Found out that although there is correct orientation of screen once the kaiser keyboard slides out, sometimes it won't come back into normal, vertical orientation...I've been using latest files.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pure4Real:
If we want to help the devs, the first things we need to do is:

summarise all the info in this thread about different kernels and system images and put it somewhere in the wiki.

After that we need to delete the magiority of the old posts so that for new people it will become much easier to get into the flow.

Then we need someone who can keep up with the posts about issues with new builds and put that in the wiki. This can be either the same or a different person.

Now we need someone with sufficient time to do this, can i get a volunteer? I'd do it myself but i really dont have the time.

I am going to set up an automated build for the kernel together with asj, it will build after each new commit and not daily, in this way there will be no useless builds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spawntildie:
hey shadowline, can you zip up everything you got and post it again?

that was the only way i could get things to work last time. i unfortunately don't have nearly enough time to sort through this thread and try to find what works and doesn't.

if you could do it, that would be awesome.

thanks

brendan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Combo22:
T-mobile Internet Issues!

What exactly do i need to input to make the internet work correctly on a tilt with t-mobile?:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Here is the latest package that I am using. Built from AXP's package. And Made to work with AT&T. For more information please see the included readme.

This package contains many applications, tested and untested as well.

Download here

(Android2-7-08-SL)

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=86b8b62e53a7a6dc2fb2ca15d7ea42d9e04e75f6e8ebb871

P.S. I am aware that it was accidentally names 2-7-08 as in 2008. It has been two months and I still cant get what year it is... LOL
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
I have found that if you press the power button on the side, you lose normal functionality of the menu buttons on the front (including green call and endcall button).

If you accidentally press the power button, and want to still keep working, I have found that if you press the power button together with the button you want to work, it will eventually trigger. Normally I just smash both together rapidly..

I have found as long as I don't touch the power button, and only use the end call button to power down, then android reliably powers down and up.

Also tested out the pattern locking which works very well coming from locked state.

Note this is with DZOs latest commit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
with previous builds (not tested on newer ones) pressing the power button when lets say a page is animating, the entire thing pauses. Wonder what thats about? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
The automated zImage build is working thanx to the help of Pure4Real :) The problem is that my ISP changed my IP so it will take day or two to promote it to other DNS server.. please be pationent a bit.. I'll announce the link for download once I'll have it running OK.

I'll try to change it later to full packages for every build, but now it should be enough...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Incoming call during sleep mode

When the Kaiser is in sleep mode and I receive an incoming call I see only about 50 vertical white lines on a black background. There is no way to get it right again, so rebooting was the only thing.

Then a question:

Is there a difference in \"\" and just to leave the place empty in the cmd line like below:

set cmdline "ppp.apn=internet ppp.username= ppp.password= pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=0"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] spawntildie:
thanks shadowline! you're sick

hey all, one thing im noticing in all this experimentation...i find that if i unzip on my computer (osx) and send to my phone, it doesn't seem to work. i get failed on loading zImage... but if i upload a zip to my phone and unzip on the phone, it seems to work (granted, i've only got shadowline's zips to work) do think this has anything to do with anything? osx maybe changes something in the file that screws with winmo?

just an idea
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
Shadowline;

Nice job putting these files together, (Android2-7-08SL.zip) was just wondering which initrd.gz file you are using, cause there is not one in the zip file.

I've been trying different ones and I can't find one that connects in G3 mode.

Toga tells me I connect, but then the browser is dog slow, like in edge.

Thanks again
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
Shadowline;

Never mind I spoke to soon I use the initrd.gz file from the Android2-1.zip file and I'm connected in 3G and this is looking great.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
no init? Thats odd, I had it in there. at least so I thought. Just use the one in the most recent package, or any previous one (though I can't guarantee how an older one will work.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Edit: Ugh XDA Died and made me double post.... Stupid 500 errors..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
little update for anyone that cares.... If you lose the functionality of your menu and call buttons, I figured out what you have to do to force them to work.

Press and hold the button you want to use, then press and release your power button on the side of the phone.

Have yet to figure out a way to regain normal control, nor have I have a found a way to just soft reset android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Can someone please give my latest collection a try?

http://www.slackthebox.com/android/Android2-7-09.zip

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
Never! What do you think we are here? A community of technologically-obsessed individuals?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
Wow, I'm impressed with how great this is working for me now! I used shadowline's latest package and the initrd.gz from Android2-1.zip. The only slightly annoying things are the remapping of the face buttons and the removal of my favorite wallpaper (black background, swirling colored lights). These things are trivial though, so no worries. Great work everyone and thanks so much for working on this!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
Still have power collapse issue :/

Outside of that data work (toga iniated), calling worked (internal speaker)... Seems pretty similar to dzos last commit as far as I could tell..

If you made any particular changes you would like me to test out, let me know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Downloading now. I'm assuming I can use the same default.txt I'm using now with dzo's latest release?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Oh No Never at all!

On a side note, a bit of random testing, I booted android and opened a browser, forgot to load togga, then went to load it and it already said connection established. But havent been able to replicate the outcome more than just that one time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikentucson:
mine does that everytime. don't even have to establish a connection in winmo either. data just works now. finaly got good screen rotation and orientation also. if i had a battery meter it would be almost perfect
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I have been able to connect when there is no connection in WinMo too, just I had to always use togga still.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
When I boot Android in sequence 1 and start Togga, I see Togga is already busy trying to connect. But then it fails every time.

Then I do a soft reset and boot Android in sequence 2. When I start Togga I only see that there is no data connection. When I press Connect, a data connection starts and I get an IP.

When doing a soft reset again, sequence 1 appears again, then 2 and so on.

Any idea?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@okibi, what did you do in your release?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I just put a new kernel on my site. I disabled the power key for now and added a couple of fixes for power collapse that would very rarely cause it to sleep forever. Only the kernel has changed, it's in the latest zip file or here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage-kaiser

remember to use pm.sleep_mode=1 in default.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
Thank you dzo! I was wondering how long it takes on the kaiser before the battery is empty with the new power management.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@DZO, still have the roaming problem. Sorry, but back to AXP pack.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
Isnt your roaming trouble linked to system.img?

As DZO stated, he only updated kernel.

So you could try running the new zImage from him with the AXP system.img.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
@DZO and eezak:

Using the zImage from DZO with the AXP pack gives me the same error.

Because I already had checked 'Data roaming' I do not get the question if I want to activate data roaming, only the 'proces com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly' error comes up.

So, no luck... yet :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] okibi:
Here is my 2-7-09 package, but updated to included dzo's latest zImage:

http://www.slackthebox.com/android/Android2-8-09.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Baardern:
No audio and occasional launch with haret.exe

Hi folks,

great to see the port of Android to the HTC Tytn II well under way! I have unfortunately encountered some issues with the current build (android-08-02-09.zip):

1. A trivial issue was that the storage-card is not named "Storage Card" on my Norwegian Windows Mobile. It's called "Lagringskort". The workaround was to edit default.txt and replace the path.

2. Another more serious issue is booting often fails. Haret.exe hangs with the progressbar still showing. The log says "Go go go...", but nothing happens. I've tried moving the boot-stuff to the internal memory, but the problem still exists.

3. When I'm able to boot Android, I'm not able to get the audio working.

Tips would be greatly appreciated!

Model: HTC Tytn II

Rom: 1.56.409.4 (09/04/07)

R: 1.27.12.32

G: 22.45.88.07H

D 1.56

Language: Norwegian

BTW, has anyone considered setting up a bugtracker for this project? :)

/Baard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
This one is nice :)

I've been trying 5-2 & 7-2 both with the same issue, after booting, phone went to sleep but then nothing worked to wake it up, only on the middle button screen lights showing colorful stripes.. Do not know why...

This release works nice for me now.

Bootup logo: OK

Orientation: OK

Rotation: OK

Phone: OK

Data: Togga seems to connect, gets some IP, I am not able to browse anything, Do I have to set up gateways, DNS etc manually? :(

Keep up great work :)

BTW: I'd like to really start be useful also as the dev, cause mapping the buttons as they are now is quite confusing for me. Where can I start?

EDIT: I've left my phone for a while unnatended to write testing SMS through the web and then my phone beeps on SMS delivery but the screen went stripped again :(

One more EDIT: After reboot, I got connected to the data network automatically without even running togga, that can be also bit confusing if you do not want to be connected for any reason. On suspend, the front keys still shining, and after waking up another set of stripes
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
So last night I was soo tired that I left android running and forgot to even hit it into standby. But to my surprise it was still running, it kicked itself into standby with no issues, and all functions were still working. I know the last time i tried that, it stopped responding. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
I was trying few times.. but I am lost a bit, just after red LED came my screen is bogged by stripes so I do not see anything there... What can be wrong?

Here I add what logcat says :) Maybe that can be helpful for someone ;) It was made just running simple script that I added here too. you have to su your terminal, cd sdcard to get access to that scritp and just run: sh logcat2log

I know :) all that had to be scripted, but anyway you have to go to the sdcard first so that does not matter :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
Just an Idea

OK,

I had this thought and just wanted to post it incase someone else thought it was worth anything.

With the nightly builds and some of the confusion that comes with comparing different builds how about....

A windows mobile program that can automatically set your default.txt based on your network settings in windows moblie. This program could also download and install the files from the latest (or not latest) builds and tell you what set up your currently running.

This way its simple to update to the latest builds automatically, without having to even hook up your phone to your computer and there is a nice auto fill-in for networks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
Can't unlock after sleep.

I know this has been talked about. But I'm just checking. I have been having this problem with all the most recent builds,

Is this the case, all recent builds (5-2 on at least) still have a problem of the menu button being disabled at sleep?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
AFAIK it is maped to unlock the device (WinKey)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
yeah ok, it works now

don't know what my problem was, I pressed every key on the phone twice
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
2 & 3 are caused by having an old radio version. You need a wm6.1 rom and 1.65/1.7 radio for reliable booting and audio.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
Actually if bluetooth and copy and paste were working I think I would be using Android all the time. As it is now I've been swtching to it at night, cause I'm on call 24/7 and with the WM6.1 alerts seem to be a crap shoot when it goes to sleep. But Android alert and alarm are great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
copy and past IS working, at least it has been for me the past several weeks. You have to press and hold on the text you want and that brings up another menu that should have the option to copy or copy all. Then you can tap and hold on the text input box and the menu will come up and have the option to paste. It's one of the things I bring up to mess with my iFriend with her iPhone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
For me priorities are now:

1) get PIN request to work so we have 100% phone supported

2) battery status

3) bluetooth so we can use peripheals a and external gps and headsets etc.

4) wifi

5) internal gps

6) usb host
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
This has fixed this issue with the buttons locking. I have been running android for 5 hours straight with no hickups. Plan on running it till late tonight so I can report back on battery life.

Great work dzo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
My Noobiness is showing -- Burning Rom

I know this is going to show me for the noob that I am, and it's probably on the first page in bold letters somewhere, BUT I haven't found this answer.

My Tilt is a company phone, so if I burn the ROM, is there a way to put it back

to the original default AT&T stuff if I had to?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cal-El:
Unfortunately you have posted your question in a thread that has nothing to do with ROM's (Yet!;) ) Try posting in the Flashing for newbs section! http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=433835

Btw, welcome to XDA! I hope you get the info you need! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
You're right, it does. :D

If you're talking about Android -- the releases packaged in the ZIP are not actual ROMs, but the image files and a bootloader-like-utility (Haret). You keep your ROM on your phone, this doesn't currently overwrite your ROM. However when you run Haret, it knocks WinMo out of memory and loads Android into memory. When you do a soft reset or shut down your phone in Android, and boot your phone back up, then it's back to the WinMo you had before.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bradpolen:
Exchange

Has anyone been able to sync their Android Kaiser to an exchange server?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wanderso:
AFAIK, Android doesn't natively support MS Exchange protocol for its mailer.

However, 3rd parties are developing MS Exchange compatible clients, e.g. NitroDesk, Aardvark and others (presumably). At least in NitroDesk's case, it will sync contacts, email and calendar. When WiFi is working and I have a full Exchange client working, it is Bye-Bye WinMo.

Willie

OOPS - this isn't technically development related, at least for the developers in this thread. Mea culpa!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Boo..

And alas, Nitro's Touchdown isn't fully operational with our current release of Android. When I try to set it up, the tabs are enormous, taking away any space to put in the information for setup.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
Thanks Cal-El found the answer here;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335568
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] a.s.j:
Lines on the display after powersafe

So I tested all the releases up since 2-1, only the 2-1 did not do that, all the others went nicely to powersafe but waking them up lead to lines on the display, sometimes I was able to see that the apps was running fine under that. It seems like some graphic driver missbehaviour to me, but I am not sure..

Can anyone confirm, or am I really the only one having that issue?

Thanx for any info...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
I haven't experienced this with any of the releases at all.

I would try to possible flash another radio, or use another sd card. Not why sd card would matter, but their aren't too many other things I could think of that could effect just you but not anyone else.

Just to be sure, you are replacing all of the files when you start a new release correct, not keeping the data.img or anything else?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
I cant get the latest release running, it stops at the screen with the penguin and a bunch of text and the last line says:

Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

Anyone know whats wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
same question im using the lasted Dzo build with a tilt on at&t 1.7xx on athinos new wm6.5 hybrid but i cant get it to boot like i was able to in the past
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Not sure what you got going different than me, but I'm using the same as you with AthenOS 6.5 hybrid ME with the 1.71.X.X radio and I'm typing this reply in Android at the moment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
what the heck so annoying the only thing i can think that i may of done wrong is not edit the default text.. but im not really sure what to do
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
make sure mtype is set to 1553 in default and power mode to 1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] azazelx:
Yes, its set to what u said, still not working.

EDIT: Says this now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
got the same response there has to be something obvious that were both doing wrong... hmmmm:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Have you guys started with a fresh copy and a freshly-formatted SD card? Maybe re-download the zip file? Just trying to rule out trivial stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
i think i figured it out

so in Dzo's website i believe he made a mistake... the vogue file is really the kaiser file and the kaiser file is the vogue file ... confirming that right now

hmm maybe not
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
try okibi's from post #2909

overwrite all of your files including your default.txt on your sd card, or if possible format your card and start fresh (as already suggested).

boot. If you don't have problems then go add your apn info for data to your default. Then try to upgrade to dzo's newest image.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
There's not really a difference, I've just put a new zip file on the site it should work on vogue and kaiser, just copy default-kaiser.txt to default.txt for kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rkadar1:
thanks dzo

Thanks DZO it worked!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wornbat:
Great work DZO and all others

I wish to say WOOHOO to DZO and all that is working on getting this working on the Kaiser.

I am using the latest DZO kit android-kaiser-09-02-09.zip

This is the best version I have used to date as I can now finally connect to the internet.

Internet Settings used for Three in Australia

set cmdline "ppp.apn=3netaccess ppp.username=\"\" ppp.password=\"\" pm.sleep_mode=1 board-htcvogue.panel_type=0 msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=20000000 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

Issues I have found so far.

1) Screen Rotation is still wrong. It has worked previously on older versions

2) Internet finally works (WOOHOO) thanks to the \"\" for username/pass and the ppp.apn settings

3) No audio for calls No internal speaker or external speaker

4) Holing down the AE (IE) button shows the task manager while held but pressing it again reboots Android

5) Android logo Offset to Right (was fixed in an earlier version)

6) Data connection shows G instead of H ? is this using GPRS? I hope not!

I cant wait till you all iron out the kinks it is looking like an IPHONE and MSWM killer already!!!

Keep up the good work guys. Im almost tempted to ditch MSWM

Wombat