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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
you have the old version -0 he uploaded 1-19 twice, the first time showing these problems.

Redownload and reinstall.

@slux: known issue. The audio support does not exist atm, I'm hitting the same issues. The old radio message, according to dzo, is relative to the vogue, where old radios didn't do certain audio things. Until we get a driver for the audio in the kaiser (built-in to the msm7200?), no audio for us. No bluetooth, gps, wifi, cameraetc. for us either, until drivers for those are made.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
yes indeed - I'll download and play as soon as htc-vogue is downloaded (75%)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Magister2k7:
You can fix screen rotation by replacing android.policy.jar in the system.img with linked one.

FYI: system.img is a cramfs image
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mullins07:
Attached fixes a problem with the touchscreen where the ts would act as if you touched the bottom of the screen.

As previously mentioned by Dzo, he has fixed the cursor keys and has mapped the keys to reflect close to original functions. That explains the changes to key functions some people are noticing.

Those of you experiencing touch screen problems, if you still have them with this zImage say so...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] THDBASED:
Thx! Touchscreen works even better now!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
with new zImage, still unable to get the notification list from portrait mode

works ok in landscape though
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Thanks DZO and Mullins, the touchscreen works much better than any previous build (I can browse the internet more easily now) and everything works as expected.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
com.android.phone has stopped

Hi,

By changing the zImage I got this error:

Sorry!

The proces com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly.

Please try again.

I deleted all APN's and added a new one, called Orange. I think this cannot be the problem, but who knows (with the earlier zImage I did not get the error).

Any suggestions?

Edit:

Hmmmmmm.... Now I have the error and it does not go away. Still any suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
had to build the cramfs module in my kernel - fortunately, it's a module, so no reboot necessary.

I totally forgot that android was java earlier - I'll apply my fix.

Anyway, two issues come up - #1, can we install onto a partition of an SD card yet? and #2 - the reason people are getting out-of-space errors is because of the 256mb limitation of cramfs.

git's being mean to me for the kernel... not sure how to make it give me htc-vogue....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
Okay, maybe I spoke too soon a couple of pages back. Togga states the internet connection is connected, but when I try to go to different webpages in the Browser, it constantly gives errors. I removed the APN I had set up since you all reported the APN isn't needed for the Internet connection to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
I know its still a work in progress, but the touchscreen does seem to react a bit better with this latest build.

I ran the Fingerpaint dev-tool and just ran my finger around the border of my touchscreen -- noticeable pattern difference when you touch the upper portion of the touchscreen! When I just went left-to-right at the top, the drawing was showing a dipped-pattern. Kinda weird, but I'm confident the powers that be will work things out. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Gprs / hsdpa

Guys,

Another question.

I still can not get an internet connection.

I make an internet connection before starting Haret. When connected I have a HSDPA connection. Is this fine, or does it have to be a GPRS connection?

I use Orange-NL, which roams on T-mobile (T-mobile took over Orange).

Are the MNC and MCC used for MMS or also for data connection?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
the screen isnt perfect but it works soo much better now. Stupid screen rotation tho. why are kaisers soo backwards next to everything else, lol Cant wait for whats next.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
@Tembares: Not sure on the roaming part, but I'm on Tmobile NL 3G (hsdpa) and this works fine, no need to set it back to gprs.

Try my settings from post 2082...

Otherwise remove apn / set all blank, others reported it's not needed, as long as...

...you set up the ppp.username & password line in default.txt, did you do this?

Ofcourse also run the togga tool in android to connect before trying to browse...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
okay, so I cp -a'ed the system.img(well, the contents, really) to partition 2 of my sd card, formatted ext2. How do I tell it to boot off that?

Tried adding a root= parameter to the default.txt, but no dice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
THANKS

@KeizerBAAS:

Hartstikke bedankt!!!! (Thank you very much!!!!)

KeizerBAAS was right. I deleted all APN's, started Togga and it worked.

23:21 -> S..t, now I have to go to bed :p

Tomorrow will be another day:

1. 'Working' Android

2. Inauguration Obama

The world can't be worse anymore :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
dzo: I have a feeling the .config on your site is not what you actually used... I'll extract it from the new zImage, unless someone wants to be nice and just give it to me :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
I tried mounting it, copying all of its content into a temp directory and replacing the file like you said.

I then used mkcramfs ("mkcramfs cramfs system.img"), but when I put it on the sdcard, it loops on the green android logo.

Did I do something wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
++ happens for me too

I did remember to cp -a... permissions are preserved.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
I tried that too, same result.

The funny thing is, when I build it from the mounted image, using mkcramfs, it boots perfectly.

There must be something wrong with the linked file, I guess.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sirgatory:
just to add a little input, the latest zimage was able to pull files off of my memory card.

I went into the android music player and it could successfully play all of my mp3's from my storage card/my documents/my music folder.

it also let me delete the files as well.

Too bad no audio, But i am impressed with everything so far! keep up the good work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
The kernel has supported that since at least yesterday (that's when I started playing with the applications)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sirgatory:
oh okay, didn't see anything on that when i was reading. thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Magister2k7:
Is your build from a "cupcake" branch? If yes than you need to recompile it yourself, because my .jar is older.

Look into the second file, there is only one line changed, something about rotation (was 90, changed to 270 degrees)

can't remember exactly for now...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
How to close an application?

What button or what must i do to close an application? I see that holding the window key(back) down gives me the running applications. But I have so many running now and cant stop them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
those are "recent application tabs" not the running ones...those show up under the notifications slide..as soon as you boot, hold that button and see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SharpieMarker:
Well I tried to delete the data.img so that it would re-extract the information from the data.gz file but it errors out saying something about "data.img not found."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
hey, guys... I just fixed up the kernel to work with the att tilt keyboard (selectable as a commandline option.)

However, although I tried, the arrow key secondary functions still don't work.Also, the dollar sign (secondary to the "tab" key) doesn't work.

I'll attach a zImage, and who should I send my patch to (I don't think I have commit access to the tree)?

put on your cmdline line board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 for tilt and 0 for normal kaisers.

EDIT: added patch to be applied to the htc-vogue repo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] hjlow:
great work, thanks poly_poly-man, this keeps moving rapidly now :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I've got audio working now (PCM audio that is).

You wouldn't believe how horrible this is with all sorts of messages flying between the A11, A9 and ADSP so it's probably not very stable yet.

It means RPC is also working.

There's a test kernel here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage-kaiser

I also built a system image with working SMS here:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/system.img

I'm not sure if network works for this image though.

everything is pushed to the git repo.

Enjoy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
DZO, you are great at this. :D

And poly, although I have not tested it, thank you as well, I was thinking/wondering what would be done for our odd little AT&T kaisers.

I personally have not had much hands on time with an iPhone or even a G1, but judging by apps for WM, I absolutely love how smooth the scrolling is on android. My only complaint now is how Google has not opened the Market to everyone, as it is a very large feature. (though admittedly not even close enough to being stable on our kaisers to actually buy anything, just the freebies :D)

Edit:

@DZO audio works great in the newest build, and there is what seems to be a semi working signal icon. But I have not been able to establish a connection for data, although I really have not tried it more than once, and I believe it is just an error on my end.

Edit2:

SMS works as far as I can tell. But I can not seem to get a working data connection still, with or without valid APN settings. and no "G" icon either. But signal icon works still (this is the 3rd boot)

Also, not sure if it matters too much, before booting, windows mobile has an active HSDPA Connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nato2k:
in the latest one sms worked and internet worked for me however i wasnt able to hear the other party on a phone call, nor were they able to hear me. i did this with speaker and without speaker. also the TS seemed to resond way better than before. the calibration is still slightly off but way better than before. overall great work guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Epicardium:
Observation on touch screen calibration

I've noticed that when I touch the screen with very short, abrupt taps it is much more accurate than when I press the screen more gently. I can accurately dial phone numbers and use the calculator by basically jabbing the screen quickly with my finger, but if I use slower and more gentle touches then things are way off. Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I cannot seem to get data working, but calls work, audio works, and sms works. (goes back to listening to music on his android phone again) :cool:

this is exciting how fast this all is going.

Edit: its the new system.img for me, switching to an older one fixed data, switching back again caused it to not work. (each time I started with a new data.gz)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
I can't get data or calls or sms working with the new zImage and system.img...

New zImage works fine (just not for SMS) but the combination of the two new ones gives me nothing. Switching back to older system.img gives me good calls & data.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] edzilla:
I think it's because the file in data.gz is actually named "data" and not "data.img".

What I had to do several times, was to actually rename the file in there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Am problem at this end.

now am using the new zImage but no real improvement ofcourse we need to define the SMS gateway for your own provider.

/Edit

Picked the lastest zImage-kaiser from dzo and now I also have audio :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AXP:
First, Thank you for you job! Big thanks!

I have a problem with new zImage and new system.img.

new zImage with old system.img works fine.

my default.txt:

default.txt, haret.exe and initrd.gz saved to SD/android, data.img and system.img - on the roon of SD

what problem i may have? any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
DZO made a few changes (thanks!): http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/...it;h=6c8a71696e3d7b084b2df4ced1f032e362551e6e
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
does SD work stable now with every radio and type of card? or did somebody exerpience problems with the latest kernel?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
SD is stable, worked with SD (1G) and SDHC (4G)

Radio is 1.71.09.01, working ok, haven't tried any else but this one and 1.65.24.36 which was working ok as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ducamie:
do you have any ideas why this isnt working with the Nike? I would'a guessed it would have worked like it it does with the Polaris.. im just getting cannot mount sd... waiting for sd errors.

any ideas? or is all hope lost for our side of msm7200.

edit: ignore me, we had a breakthrough it boots fine when you hold the power button (its mapped wrong to sd present). yay.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] stringbean82:
Here tested with different types of cards 8GB and 4GB.

and 1.65.24.36

Unsure what my Colleague runs as radio, need to check. but both no problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] THDBASED:
Everything you mentioned works great! Thx a lot! Now on to wifi :) Just kidding...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] eezak:
with the new zImage, everytime i hangup a call the phone freezes
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
I noticed the same thing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] corvus:
With this zimage and this system I get audio, but dont get gsm/umts network.

With this zimage and the system of the Latest in your web i get system audio, network, but the phone hangs when finish a call and dont get call audio (with phone speaker, not system speaker that i dont try it)

Corvus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] THDBASED:
I spoke to soon, I too can't make a call (no network registered)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] KeizerBAAS:
Data vs. Downloads...

I've found that without any APN settings, I'm perfectly able to browse and use maps, but it just doesn't show the nice G icon with arrows for active data up/down.

Downloading applications via the AndAppStore didn't work though.

After I re-input APN settings, the G icon reappeared and the downloads come in easily!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
I tried with and without those APN settings with the updated system.img and both were a no-go on data/downloads. But sms worked either way. lol

P.S. I figured it was worth mentioning, Audio working with plugged in headsets as well. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dadennis:
can make calls, but have no audio ... gprs works perfectly ...sms doesn't work ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] radem205:
You have the wrong files, look here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=3194496&postcount=2146
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] biscuits1978:
SMS works for me also, but when I try to initiate Togga for the Internet connection, I get the error:

The application Togga (process net.retrobits.togga) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.

Still the same issue with the phone locking up after ending a call, speakerphone only.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
The phone is locking up after calls for me too, sms works but togga wont connect on the new system.img and the old one, calls lock up, but no sms, altho togga works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] oscarbum:
I get the same thing with Togga. It's funny. I've been following for a while hoping to get Android on my phone, but I've only been checking thread #1, hoping to see updates there. Imagine my surprise when I surfed to the end of the thread and saw how far it's come. Amazing stuff.

I still can't get any audio. Seems to be a radio problem. Which one is getting the most success?

BTW, I am using 1.71.09.01 radio w/ PCU's v16 ROM. I see when Android is loading that it says "Audio disabled."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mahd-leb:
this is kinda of a noob question but can some one just upload a file with all the android files needed and how to get it to work...........i tried so all the directions and files posted on this thread but i always got an error
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] silasrye:
maybe not the very latest

but this should get you going.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RunAndroidOnKaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Also, with the new system.img and zImage, reading contacts from the sim works. Still no internet though... :S

Edit: With the new system.img, deleting all other APN settings then adding the AT&T settings, togga appears to connect. Though internet seems to work rather badly (although sometimes does work) might be my area though.

Edit 2: On second boot, it does not connect again, but the APN settings are still the same... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mahd-leb:
i tried that before and it still didnt work for me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Browser never works for me... always crashes...

however... togga connects and I have my gmail email setup, and google maps works too...

I do get some sound notifications... such as an SMS coming in (yes, SMS works send and recieve)

Calling appears to kind of work... can send and receive... no sound and hang-up freezes.

Edit: Deleted other two APNs... created the AT&T Apn as docs ~150 pages back. Also have the ppp.username and password on the kernel cmd string.

-Rich
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
The kernel in the latest zip file (android-21-01-09.zip) should fix problems with audio during calls, so it won't crash when you hangup.

I didn't add the new system.img because it doesn't have a working data connection.

It's probably not difficult to fix though, does somebody want to try getting pppd running?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
N/M Needed to refresh page.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] devonian69:
I believe this is the link you are looking for:

http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Yep... was looking at a stale copy of the page...

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] astrocrep:
Used the newest zip file...

Deleted both APNs... added a new one called ATT and gave it the address wap.cingular

Then ran togga and it connected

I get can online with the webrowser and gmaps!!

Calls still have no sound through the handset but I can hang up now with out crashing!!

Edit: As mentioned it appears SMS has died though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tembares:
Buttons

Hi,

Is there a reason why the Windows menu button is NOT the menu in Android, but the email button?

Is it possible to change those two buttons? I am very curious about this ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] echofloripa:
I presume that for this you will have to change the initrd and not the image.

That's one way, the other might be if we had sd access, I think.

emerson
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Shub-Niggurath:
Compiling the kernel in gentoo

For anyone who uses gentoo linux and is interested in compiling the kernel, all of the required packages are in portage. After the initial pain of setting up gentoo, it is surprisingly easy to get cross-compile working.

You need the sys-devel/crossdev and app-portage/portage-utils packages.

Once installed, you need to run the crossdev script with the appropriate target architecture to compile the toolchain. I used arm-none-linux-gnueabi-4.2.3 as the target machine (i think dzo or dcordes suggested it).

After much text has scrolled by, cd to the appropriate kernel directory

Apply the kernel patch provided in the other thread (if not already done), this also patches the Makefile to use the new toolchain.

type make, press enter and that should be it.

I've found gentoo to be much more development orientated than other linux distros, especially ones like ubuntu which are more geared for users, as it provides compilers and toolchains out of the box and it is not really anymore difficult to set up these days. There is a live cd with a GUI installer or you can go hardcore and install it manually (mission, believe me, but worth it in the end).

more information can be found in the gentoo documentation

http://www.gentoo.org

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/cross-development.xml

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Cross_Compile
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
There still is no file browser. The thing is, this is a public initrd. If some company's would share there initrd. We could test it. Everything has to be build in the initrd. zImage is just for cumminicating hardware with the software.

Correct me if I ain't correct ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] riano:
You are correct.

To elaborate:

which comes from: http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] beausejour:
I'm currently doing Android's development, i checked android's emulator file system throw adb shell, all the applications were stored in /data/app directory. The initrd we are testing has incluted Api Demos which means it contains google's application ApiDemos.apk. Anyone has a tutorial about how to build initrd? i'm really interested in this stuff.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] slovoflud:
Oh man, so many people are jumping onboard! so exiting! :)

feels great to be a part of it! :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] corpus:
you can find info in the linux kernel documentation: see Documentation/initrd.txt file
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
There are plenty of browsers for X11 (the graphical thing e.g. openmoko and many other linux distros use) It's just that unfortunately I haven't got an X11 image running yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dcordes:
Did somebody already do a fresh build from the latest git head and the defconfig in the tree? I received a report from somebody who did and he said it would build but the image would be > 1M and wouldn't boot.

Would be nice if somebody could try and report back. Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] xmoo:
This is soo coooool!! The thread got sticky :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Praygo:
A couple of questions.

Will android ever work 100% (the features) on the kaiser?

Is it always going to have to run through windows?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] AstainHellbring:
Yes almost garenteed all of the kaiser hardware will be working eventually in android. When will we be natively running it, ie not through haret is unknown. Most likely will be after real android phones are out in the public views