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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
I need a new battery, but I also have never trusted Android to give me accurate battery readings. Android always tells me I have more battery than WM -- or maybe WM shuts down early for safety. 0% for WM seems to be ~15% for Android. WM consistently tells me I have ~8-15% less battery than Android. Android will actually run my battery down to the point that the LED turns Red when I plug it in, which is rare for WM. Therefore, when I see Android hit 15%, I panic and find a charger immediately :D

Android is definitely the answer to our problem-plagued Kaisers. It really feels like I bought a new device. I knew this was possible even before people took me seriously so it's excellent to see it come to fruition. Since I bought the Kaiser I've almost fully converted to Linux, so it just feels like part of the family :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] salooo:
@ vilrod

everyone has its own taste.. yes man now i am using ion... which is better than other androids..

@ daedric

i am totally agreed with you ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
Hello,

do you plan also own bootloader so we can decide if we boot winmo or linux kernel? Somethink like in previous time we used with Compaq iPAQ 3630...?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] phjott:
I found out that I need to disable pin check in WinMo because I have the problem with incorrect PIN... But when I try to diasble it, it ask for the pin-code and when i type it, it says that the pin is incorrect.. I used it when I started the phone =S

I've tried to diable it in the Ultimate-X2.V11 ROM and with a Stock ROM, but it wont disable.. Anyone know how I can fix this problem? I would love to run Android on my device =)

Edit: But one thing is really weird, and that is that I have 3 chances to press the correct PIN. Everytime I press the correct PIN, and the message "incorrect pin" message pops up, I still have 3 chances left. But if I try a random PIN, I have 2 chances left =/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UbuntuFan:
Hey, I can't find Android for HTC Touch 3G, does anyone know, where I can download it?!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] toasty_:
At the moment there is no way to run Android on HTC Touch 3G (Jade). The problem is haret. This programm is used to boot up linux (android) but isn't able to start successfully on Jade.

See this thread: Android on JADE
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lupick:
dEar All I've a couple of issue with android on kaiser.

I'm using donut Zen flavour that looks grat on 240x320 lcd 120. I have 2 problem:

1. Using latest basefile the screen rotate on wrong side opening hw keyboard. In setting automatic orientation is disable.

2. I've to setup pm.sleep_mode=0. Everityng is working (wifi is on) but after 20min it seems android crash and on the display I can see only the ANDROID startup logo. Nothing is working so I've to soft reset the device.

Any idea??

thanks

L.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
1. Dont use the latest kernel from 10-24, but one from 10-23 instead, will fix screen rotation issue.

2. Set sleep_mode=1 to get it too work
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lupick:
It seems that using sleep_mode=1 I have another issue

Sometime after a standby the screen come back with several green vertical line with a black background. So I've to softreset....

sleep_mode=0 seems to solve this but then I've thatafter 20 min I find the ANDROID boot logo on the screen and I've to softreset again.

this is my default.txt

#alloctest 0x2000

set RAMSIZE 0x08000000

set RAMADDR 0x10000000

set FBDURINGBOOT 0

set MTYPE 1553

set KERNEL zImage

set initrd initrd.gz

#

# The following kernel parameters are useful

# ppp.nostart	- Set ppp.nostart=1 to disable starting the ppp connection on boot

# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller

# pm.sleep_mode - The mode used when the phone is off

# 0=Power Collapse Suspend, 1=Power Collapse, 2=Apps Sleep,

# 3=Slow Clock and Wait for Interrupt 4=Wait for Interrupt

# Default is 1, use 1 for best power savings

# board-htckaiser.panel_type - Panel type used to power the panel off and on

# 0=Don't power off the panel (Default)

# 1=Sony 2=Topoly 3=Topoly (probably just the same as 2)

# lcd.density - Defaults to 160, 128 shows more on screen

#

#set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=0 mddi.width=320 mddi.height=428 lcd.density=160 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

set cmdline "board-htckaiser.panel_type=0 ppp.nostart=0 pm.sleep_mode=0 mddi.width=240 mddi.height=320 lcd.density=120 no_console_suspend board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1"

boot

Thanks

L.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Borkata81:
leave sleep_mode=1 and try different values of board-htckaiser.panel_type
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ftarz:
Has anyone gotten GPS working on Kaiser with Android?

I've been trying a lot of the Android builds at androidonhtc.com and from the threads here. Everything seems to work OK except for the GPS and google maps.

Google maps shows myl data but I don't if it's from the GPS or from cell data. Anything that looks for gps data (google maps, waze, etc) doesn't get any data.

Google maps only tells me that my position is unavailable.

Has anyone seen the gps working on the Kaiser?

Frank
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Johnster988:
Well I decided it wasn't my batter and narrowed it down to either being a hardware or software issue because even when my phone aknowledges that it has low battery 3/5 of the time it won't charge when I plug my charger in. Its not my charger because I've tried two others with the same result. Is anyone else having this problem with Android because when I run a WinMo Rom it charges and when my phone is off it charges just not when my Android is running. Man this is frustrating I mean I love Android because of how fast and smooth it is but my battery is perpetually low while running it and it will very rarely charge. Any ideas anyone?

EDIT: My battery charges when I am in calls but then stops when I end the call. I am so confused right now.

Thanks,

John
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
All I can say is make sure you plug the phone into the charger when your screen is on or it wont go into sleep mode. So it might be charging while it's taking up more power then it should to get a effient charge. Another problem is it says it stops charging at 50% for me, I go into windows it reads like 30%. I plug into the charger under windows and in a short time it reads 100%.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Johnster988:
Yea I've tried that with no luck. My phone does that also where when it does charge, it will only go to around 50% in Android charge and 40% in WinMo. Anyone have any ideas why Android is messing with my charging or how to remedy it? I've already tried recalibrating my battery to no avail.

Thanks,

John
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I am able to get GPS to work (AT&T tilt and running dark donut); one thing I found that helps it I get a gps lock in WM first, the run Android. Doing that I get a decent lock in about 10 minutes outside. It is nowhere near when in WM, but at least it kinda works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
ditto, I've had the same luck, it takes a while to get a lock, once it does, its accuracy is fine... I think it updates slower than it should (like once every second, it should probably be at least 2x as fast) another problem that plagues it is that it really wont determine speed, although obviously not important for google maps, it probably will be important for navigation apps... i've had it work in google maps, GPS Status(no speed output), and GPS speedometer(shows correct coordinates but no speed output). However it never NEEDS to have a locked signal in WinMo for me... I havent tried, but regardless we shouldnt rely on WinMo for initialization stuff.

I wouldnt expect co-pilot to work all too well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jmhalder:
Donate To DZO!

Just started a link in the General section, DZO has put a tremendous amount of time into getting android to work on our devices, lets show him we appreciate it!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=593868 - thread

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webs...bn=PP-DonationsBF:btn_donate_SM.gif:NonHosted - Donate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
Hm, interesting, im using Zen's donut image and everything is working fine, its just, i changed resolution form 320x480 to 240x320..and now the screen rotation is wrong, i changed the orintation display setting, but...it didnt worked...apparently! Any clues?...

Also, do you know if microphone (as in searching, voice dial, etc) is supposted to be working...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
use the zimage from day 23 instead of day 24 and the screen rotation will be fixed
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Easy way to edit or push to a sqsh or img system file..

[Thanks to enatefox on this, without his program or help I would have never figured this out]

When trying to mount or remount a system file (normally to be able to edit files in the /system folders) you need an ext2 system file not an sqsh or img file; the sqsh and img files are read only, so you cannot remount it. Here is an easy way. I know it looks like a lot but trust me it works 100%:

1. Download enatefox's stay safe app (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=581429)

2. Pleace a copy of your current system.sqsh or system.img in the "update" folder

..........a. Since all you need to do is create an ext2 image and not backup your apps, this works great

3. In Android, run the stay safe app. (it takes 5-10 minutes to run but just keep hitting wait when it tries to FC until it says Finished!)

..........a. It will create a Newsystem.ext2 on your storage card

4. Reboot phone into windows mobile

5. Remove/rename your old system.sqsh and data.img files (I always move them to a new folder for backup)

6. Rename the Newsystem.ext2 to system.ext2

7. Run Android; it will start with a new and fresh install, and create a new data file

8. In ADB shell or Terminal type the following:

su
mouont -o remount,rw /system

(now use the cp or push commands to copy over the files)

9. When you are done remeber to change it back to write only

mouont -o remount,ro /system

I was able to use this method to install the "hacked" google 3.2.1 navigation and the voice seacrh and libspeeck.so files to a locked image.[/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
Well, I did read this, but I was trying to point out..that with 320x480 works fine, didnt read anything about that, but I guess its a known issue XD......anyway, i think i will stay with 320x480, or.... any reason to switch to 240x320??...Like a real performance reason or something?.

Thanks! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Not that I have noticed IMHO; running 240X320 just makes the icons and graphics bigger. I like having more on the screen so I run 320x480 for everything
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
So my battery kicked the bucket. I got a new one, 2,800mAh extended life, for $14. If you don't mind the extra 5mm or so on the back of an already large phone I recommend it. I'm not trying to spam but it's worth every penny for the extra life I get with it. Got it in 3 days.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] nickgallis:
I try to install last version but give me an error can't mount /data ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] anubius:
Hi everyone!

I have two questions which somone has the answers for. It was very nice to try Zen Donut Android however there are some things that still don't work so I am back to my favourite ION 1.5 where everything perfectly works. What I would really like to have from Donut is that crispy resolution 240x320@lcd 120. When I try to use the same settings on ION all the icons are very sharp but too big. Is there anyway to make the same sharp icons in 1.5 ION? And also one thing that I've notived is that wiFi doesn't see Peer to Peer networks is it only my case or this is something Android related.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
anyone having disconnections of data when device is sleeping (for example meebo, or fring or apps that use data?)

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Dark-Side:
Deprecated?

Why all files on http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android were indicate "deprecated"? There is news files somewhere?

I saw it moved to Souceforge, but files are sames
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Not that I know of; looks like we just do not have anything new available yet from the Devs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
well, I'm not sure if the device could enter a sleep state with a data connection on..So your battery would drain really fast if it kept a connection. With Wifi on, it would dissconnect when powered off, and will enable data once its back on. I'm not sure if WinMo does this actually, the phone gets really hot in windows mobile and it seems like it doesnt do that in android..since i forget i have wifi on sometimes..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Kaiser32:
I have a problem while installing android on my AT&T Tilt, when I starting installing its gives me an error in command line

Failed to mount /system/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

and then its not continuing installation process, I thought that in first time it need a time but when the half of hour have passed I have reseted my device, I have tried some kind of build 1.0, 1.5 1.6 but its all the same. Could you help me with it what kind of error is it and how can I fix it to run Android on my AT&T Tilt

Thank you in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I am still looking into this, I'll post here if I get an answer. I get the "can't access tty; job control turned off"; so that does not matter, but for some reason HaRET cannot edit a filte in the data.img; have you tried to reformant your card and start over?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
So far I am only able to use Android 90% of the time; the issue is I live in California and you cannot talk on the phone and drive. It must be hands free. And since bluetooth does not work, the other option should be the external speaker during calls. However I can't get that to work. The external speaker works great for media volume and other external sounds, but when I am in a call, and select the speaker phone option, it just stays at the ear peace. So I am stuck going back to WM when I am in the car. I have tried about 20 different builds and all of the latest base files for the past 3 months and still no go...

So to make a long story longer, does anyone have a trick to get the external spekaer working when in a call?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bpedman:
gps is working

FYI...srwalter just got GPS working in donut. Thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=593786&page=20

What I did:

- Download http://sweb.uky.edu/~srwalt2/libgps.so

- run adb shell mount -n / -o remount,rw

- run adb push libgps.so /lib/donut/libgps.so

- reboot

And as zenulator said, welcome to google maps navigation!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JeckyllHavok:
In the donut roms i made for myself, gps was always working. I think most people use the how to build a hero rom as instruction. But on donut roms you need the libs from the lib/donut folder of rootfs.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Just downloaded and will try, see how fast I can get a lock and keep it without pre-locking in WM...

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To anyone wanting to try, remeber if you are using a system.img or system.sqsh, 'mount" will not work. You need to convert the system to a ext2 file to be able to edit these files to the device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sancho1234:
My first time trying out the Android OS on my Kaiser. However, it no start. What is the problem? What I left out? See the attachment.

(I rename the Kaiser's file to default.txt.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
sancho1234, it is hard for us to guess which problem you are having, many different things could be the problem. You should try a package that already works for other people, like this one or this one and there are some older ones here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sancho1234:
Respect, thank you!!! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] topgunn:
Working BT on Kaiser

Refer to an article (with s/ware download) from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ it's real fine work, academia ftw! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
We've always known that BT was semi-functional in Ion Cupcake (Android 1.5) builds, such as the xROM builds. BT is still not working for Kaisers in Donut (1.6) or Hero builds, which most of us are using now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Another issue, and looking at your screen shot, HaRET could not find the system file. You need to make sure you have the system file. It will eitehr be a system.img, system.sqsh or system.ext2. Make sure all the needed files including this one is on the root of your SDcard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] sancho1234:
The A is already in place. Has been installed and started up. :) Tnx!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skykiller:
Any suggestions as to why my touch screen will not work with any of the prebuilt releases? I have tired quite a few and it boots fine but the screen is non responsive.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
No one else has that problem AFAIK, it's very possible you have a hardware issue. Try checking the adb logs during boot (use the command adb logcat). Look for driver failures or anything screen related. Best of luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skykiller:
There is 2 others in the main having the issue.

Screen works perfect in winmo.

any how to on using adb?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
Just wondering, I think I asked in the past no one answered, why cant I see FULL VERSION apps? Like I want to buy robot defense and others and I dont know how!!

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
if no one answered you before, it's probably because this question has already been asked and answered 3468972459087345 Times. Use the search and you will find the answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Camera Focus

Anyone know how to focus the camera? I can only take a pic if something is like 5 ft away or more. Anycloser and it's blurry. Any ideas? I would relaly like to use this for shop savvy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
Use the scroll wheel to focus.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djp3k05:
Hey dzo. many people have asked you on vogue thread if you will make a bootable version for Kaiser in the near future. You never answered and probably even now will not respond. My question is, if you have to take it from scratch to build a bootable version for us, or will be easier because you've already done that for Vogue users?

I believe that many users will donate for your hard work. and we thank you for all you did for us.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
I did answer in one of the threads, and yes, eventually I'll make a flashable Kaiser version but I want to get Vogue working perfectly first. I won't have to start from scratch but some things need to be done first, e.g. panel type autodetection and kaiser specific hardware init.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] djp3k05:
dzo thanks for your quick reply. You gave us hope and we look forward to getting out of evil windows. take your time to do the best.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
excuse me if im too stupid, I DID search, you took 10 seconds to reply trash, you could have used that 10 secs to actually reply my question.

But then, tell me, what should I put in the search box, since im not been able to get my answer ¬¬

THANKS
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
On the page of the app you want in market..just scroll down and tap "more from developer" and you'll see all their apps. The new market sorts "paid" from free easily..If you want to see all the apps in the market sign in with a gmail account(not sure if it has to be new or not) at 480x320 resolution. Google doesn't make you feel dumb..just search your problem put in words.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
Im @ 480x320 resolution, logged with a gmail account of course. I search for Robo Defense and Robo defense FREE appears, select it, scroll down, more applications. And.....just the free edition appears. Im Using Droid 1.6 Image from Zenulator.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roberto188:
Market

Robo defense? I can't even find that in market? I get the feeling for some reason or another I'm getting access to all the apps availible in the market place. Can anyone find 10001 Cocktails? I cant' seem to fidn it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ftarz:
Wow!, I'm using the files off of androidonhtc.com on my Tilt. The device performance and power comsumption are much improved over WM6.1, With the latest GPS fix just about everything is working well. Just wish I could flash it too.

I've decided that the Kaiser isn't too bad, except for being hobbled with WM.

In the meantime, can anyone recommend the absolute smallest WM ROM/radio combo that I can flash the Tilt with?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Best one I could find was -G- DK.10 Nakid. It has just enough to be called a phone and nothing much else. You can find his downloads here:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/8274856/c57f8e60/Garmin_ROOM.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] kevinddavis:
Are you seeing ANY paid apps? I'm pretty sure you have to connect through the cellular network to get paid apps.

I can only see paid apps when I connect to the market through AT&T in the US. If I connect through WiFi in Taiwan, no paid apps. I know I only tested two cases but I don't need WiFi in the US and I'm not paying AT&T international roaming charges from Taiwan.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
I used Market Enabler and it worked just fine! (Y).....I guess its that, its blocking the market since im not in the US.

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
I don't suppose that you happen to know the password for that file, do you?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmcnano:
New question, has anyone been able to use IM application with 3g data? I get some "unable to get sim number" error. I found a thread to push some files via ADB but, im unable to mount RW my system folder. I have fat ext ext instalation method, but it doesnt seem to work. I tried mount -o remount,rw bla bla..

Anyone knows anything? I was using ebuddy but it seems to drain my battery big time!

edit: which IM app do you use?? Im trying to use the "IM" app because using ebuddy drains my battery and kills the phone..like..in 20 mins! or something like that..meh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
That would help. It is

dka

original post here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=426349