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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
Official (HTC CLICK) QVGA Android phone on Video

Looks to be a video of an official qvga android phone from HTC..running a donut rom..and is suppose to be cheap.

Does this mean android will be supporting for our native resolution on our kaiser/vogue soon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjL7...urprisingly-not-cheap&feature=player_embedded

Here are some quotes from a article you might find interesting..

http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/08/21/htc-click-stars-in-youtube-video/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ding911:
Still Broken

Ok. I love Android. However, this is still not even close to a daily usable operating system for me for a few reasons. The biggest being NO CAMERA!!! When Android first came out, the coolest part to me was all the cool apps utilizing the camera. Plus, I use the camera all the time and love having it integrated into my phone.

This is all just my opinion so DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY as so many of you like to take everything that is said in here as a family insult or an insult to your intellect, but why are we pursuing WI-FI so hard? I have never once used the WI-FI connection on my phone. In my experience, the hardware on the Kaiser isn't able to render pages fast enough to really make the connection worth while. I also never use bluetooth. I prefer the pricy ear bud headset I just got. Why are we going after a perks like WI-FI when the mobile standard of a working camera is being ignored?

I love all the work we have all put into this. Again, This is my opinion and should not be taken as a blow. I dont think its a silly question and if you think so, dont bother responding but I am curious as to why the camera is on the the back burner.

Thanks a ton for all the hard work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
Simple answer: for those who doesn't have unlimited data plan, wifi is only way to fully use android and google integration, which requires internet connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
On the phone you have to run telnetd, not telnet.

Open a terminal and do:

/bin/su
/system/bin/telnetd
ifconfig

The last command should give you the IP address of the phone.

Then, on the PC, do:

telnet ip.address.of.phone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zakmcintyre:
I am having trouble executing any of these commands. I have tried every free version of emulators on the Market, and can't get the virtual keyboard to activiate. I also tried your "text" transformation style, enatefox, and kept getting "permission denied" or " not found" errors. I am eager to play around w/ the swap settings and see if it will fix my few problems I am having with the "PureBlack" build. Problems:

1. Always on startup get a "system is not responding" message, although it usually works soon after I hit wait.

2. Quite often, when going from an application to the homepage (whether by hitting the back button or the home button) I get the HTC black splashpage, then a loading message. Sometimes, it is as many as 30-45 seconds before I can do anything.

Just a little more speed would go a long way for me to fix this, I believe. Thank you all for your help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Zenulator says his new, about to be released, version does not do that. It only says that because our phones aren't as fast as the real thing so it's just warning you that it takes a while. With recent developments, I would not believe a Dream owner that says their phone is faster. While compcache and swap are pretty transparent and automated, if you are just booting the phone and complaining about speed then you aren't giving the system time to utilize what is available.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siulmagic:
i did do that and it does not work, exacly as you typed it =/

no matter what i do it says no such file
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rnikec:
what rom should i use to boot android? I put 1.5 onto my sd card, and it just freezes
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
"/bin/su" gives you "no such file" ?

I presumed you were using one of the enatefox modified system images (for wifi on the kayser).

If not, I think you can just use "su", but I'm not sure.

Anyway, the telnetd root access bug/vulnerability is a very old one, and you can probably google for it and detailed information on how to use it to gain telnet access to android.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I dont believe that our phones aren't fast enough to run this. I do believe that this touchflo or senseui whatever its called has somewhat caused a digression.We've had to add such things to make our phones run with this stuff lately when it ran just fine without it before. I have been patiently waiting for three days on this build to "fully utilize what is available" and these freezes and lags and errors are still a problem. Maybe it's the version of winmo I am running which that in itself poses a whole new set of problems on building a flashable rom out of android how are you going to do this when android is so dependant on which version of winmo you have I kinda thought the name of the game here was to dispose of that rubbish altogether. Take for instance I had been usinf hyperdragon IOLITE winmo 6.1 from the beginning on this. HD would not boot hero roms for me So I found TPC which is winmo 6.5 that would.

Now that my little rant is over I hope that no one has gotten offended especially the devs as I know what you are doing is a grueling task. I have asked a lot of questions and followed every bit of advice I have gotten and I still am not getting the performance that I believe is possible out of my phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
the modded system.img I uploaded with wifi enables "normal" su access (asks permission then you can grant it) and /bin/su is part of rootfs.img and does not ask permission-- just grants access. I assume you're talking about telnet not working. What about ADB? It's simple once you can connect.

Our phones can't run Hero in it's full form at face value. We, like G1 owners have to add compcache and swap to get speed and it will run I think at full speed (never played with a Dream to confirm). The F-16 fighter jet can't fly technically due to it's wing size to weight ratio but with the computer system and tweaks done to it, it's able to compensate and get it airborn and it's one of the most agile planes ever made.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Then something is not right with SuperHero-Wifi: From what I can remember, I think PureBlack-Wifi asks for permission to use su, but SuperHero-Wifi definitively does not and normal su simply does not work.

Isn't that because PureBlack-wifi includes the superuser permissions app and SuperHero-wifi does not? I thought that was the app responsible for asking permission to the user...

/bin/su works on both.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You need SuperUser since that is the activity you see to grant or deny permission-- it's not built in to the system. I didn't check for that on SuperHero but can you tell me what "ls -l /system/bin/su" because if it's chmod 4755 it will work with the app. The 4 specifies set user ID and the rest is equivalent to u=rwx (4+2+1),go=rx (4+1 & 4+1).

The app can just be downloaded and placed in the SD card's AndroidApps folder to be automatically installed. Alternatively, you can save it anywhere on the card and installed through AppInstaller or similar apps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
Yup, it's -rwsr-xr-x alright. Have to install SuperUser...

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jym04:
I was kinda trying to customize some system.img's for my tastes, but I'm having different issues. For instance, I was trying to use a JACxROM, but I could not find enatefox's version anymore, so I dled the original and fixed WiFi and su following enatefox's instructions and it all worked well, except that I had no data connection anymore. It seems that I need the modem application for that. Is it possible to copy the smodem folder(assuming that's the application's folder) from a working build over to my modified JAC's? Do I need the shellscripts setupmodem.sh and toggle.sh? Is there more files to it?

Right now I'm using the bundled ION img, from 2009-08-08, which is working fine, but it lacks some goodies, like quickoffice and pdfviewer and its browser is a bit inferior to Hero's version. I tried to install hero's apks in this ION build, but except for quickoffice, they fail returning that those apps could not be installed. Is there any workarounds on this or it simpl cant be done? I think there must be a way since jac got them on his ROM.

Last but not least, I've been trying some Hero builds lately, but even though I have the 14-08-2009a kernel and recent rootfs with compcache and swap and everthing, they seem, at least to me, a bit more sluggish than I can put up with. However, they seem to have all the latest apps and stuff, since most of you are using them. How can I get the ION theme on a Hero build? Should I copy files from the media folder? I was trying to use the home switcher, but how do I get it so that homeswitcher actually has something to switch to?

Finally, its really a nice work you guys are doing. I'm a long time linux user and I hope to be able to help you guys someday, when I learn the android workings a little better.

Thanks.

Edit: almost forgot. My gps cant seem to get a 3d fixed location on Android. I boot up haret with gps on with a fix in winmo, and when I try it with Gps Test, it only gets a 2d position, without altitute and speed. Is there anything I'm missing? I'm from the south hemisphere, and read somewhere that there was once a problem but I thought it was fixed right now,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Well is there any chance of getting a hero build similar to pure black with all the touchflo crap removed? I will be giving zenulators new build a shot when he releases it but until then I will be reverting back to the hybrid you posted a while back only thing is I have to change my winmo rom again. Oh Well its all in the name of progress I suppose
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
jym04, I don't have data but haven't heard anyone complain about it with the exact steps I posted. You're referring to files like you removed them, that's probably the issue.

I posted this as kind of an ongoing script I'm trying to extend a bit. It will do shallow or deep file/directory comparisons with ls or md5. The md5sum comparison is not quite there because it needs to sort the files to do a true comparison. You can check permissions and if files exist with ls and file versions with md5.

garringm, you could strip the build down but I'm using 8-15, not Pure Black. It flies with 60Mb swap and compcache, Touchflo and most of the widgets running. pmos69 gave some good settings for compcache which I'm benchmarking now to compare.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
I tried pmos's settings didn't give me the performance I thought it should have. Maybe I'll try the 8-15 build before I call it quits. Which of the rootfs downloads are you using. I think I have all the newest on it and 8/20 zImage

Scratch that I think you posted it a while back will dig into it maybe just try files until I'm happy
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
Donut

Is there any talk of Android Donut being ported to the HTC Kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] knytphal:
I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet, but I'm (currently...) running the 8/20 zImage and rootfs with Zenulator's 8/16 wifi/su system.img and apart from the sense ui crashing occasionally the only issue that I'm seeing is that the hardware shift key isn't working. Which is kind of a drag as my passwords use some uppercase characters. The software keyboard works fine, but I would of course prefer the actual keypad.

Has anybody else seen this, and is there a fix? I'll probably just try a newer build.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
I'm using specifically:

rootfs.img

system.img

zImage

and I think initrd.gz

Donut is kind of a development branch and it's features are being ported already. They are more transparent at first but eventually we'll get the universal search features and more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jym04:
I didn't, the modem program files weren't included in the original JAC's rom, at least the one I have. I use this modem app to get data connection on every other build, and was trying to copy it to my custom JAC's. The program seems to use files outside its smodem folder, like setupmodem.sh, on hero's or ion's build. I was asking on which files are required, or is there a apk of it. Well, at least I think that is the issue, else I got it all wrong.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
is the modem app necessary for other providers? bc with HERO i dont need it? it all works by default (pre-modem hero worked). I'm GSM AT&T tho...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adamc118:
8-10

How do i intiate that Wifi in the 8-10 hero build?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] jym04:
I think so. Just now I got d/c'ed from the 3g network, I had to disconnect then reconnect with the modem app.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] archongtv:
same problems here.

Also when I boot android I get some errors with kernel modules mismatch (I can't get exactly what is written there right now) about I think lzma compress.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pixolex:
Finally I updated to the latest official rom WWE from HTC and now I have the 1.65.17.56 RADIO in my GSM phone.

Every thing works grate, but when the phone goes to sleep the screen doesn't recover and I just can see white with some green vertical lines.

I'm using the 1.5 android latest bundle with the latest kernel and rootfs.

Any one experiencing this behaviour?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
cell tower location

Every build I've tried so far seems to have trouble with cell tower triangulation. Currently running xROM2 from vogue-hero and wireless triangulation puts me somewhere in Georgia but I'm in the Philadelphia suburbs.

Is this just how things work for now? Do I need an updated libgps.so, do I need the file at all anymore? Can anyone suggest a good set of files for more accurate cell tower location? GPS is great, but takes forever to get a lock on my location (always been that way, even in winmo) and is a drain on the battery. I just want cell tower location for auto-updated weather, so no biggie.

Thanks to everyone working on the project, you guys are amazing!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] guymanx09:
I guess you can ignore my previous post. Seems all I needed to do was go to the market and get the latest version of Google Maps. Cell tower location works great now!

So if anyone's having trouble with non-gps location, snagging the latest Google Maps should help :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] bandur:
Try changing the panel type in the default/startup.txt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] killa-mckilla:
this will sound dumb, but if i have a bigger storage card will android run smoother?

it's been fine for about a week and now for some reason is being glitchy, slow, and freezing.

idk

im going to try a different build i think. im using the 8-10-09 1.5 build currently
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pmos69:
A bigger sdcard will not help.

Try a different aproach, like a rootfs with compcache support.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siulmagic:
hey guys i have a quick question, does the command to overclock in the old 1.1 android builds, still work with cupcake and android?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Nullin:
I have a problem while i boot android from kaiser

After I click "run" button ,many letter was shown on my screen ,the last line is :

------------------------------

Ruuning an fsck on the SD card dosfesk 3.0.1, 23 Nov 2008 ,FAT32,LFN /dev/block/mmcblk0p1:1784 files ,206070/992072 clusters

losetup: /dev/block/loop2:No such file or directory

Fialed

Fialed to find rootfs.img on SD Card /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off

----------------------------------

who can tell me how i can boot android in my kaiser

and my sd card is SDHC 4G capability.

Thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] imfloflo:
I think you missed to put some files in your SD ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] pixolex:
Thanks!

That managed the situation :), I've changed to 1 ("sony").
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Nullin:
I unzip all files in package It contains directory media default.txt haret.exe initrd.gz rootfs.img system.img zImage

does it contains any other files？
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
does not compute. you must be missing rootfs.img
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] X-SoLjA:
Anyone have any idea why when I send an SMS message, I get the notification that my message could not be sent? ...The funny thing is even though I get this message, it still sends a copy and the recipent receives the message. :confused:

Ideas?

Thanks,

-X-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siulmagic:
do the overclocking commands in default.txt work with cupcake or hero?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
You could always try it and post your experience. I quit using it a while back it was causing the coma. Have been wondering the same thing but dont really want my phone to die in its sleep
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] siulmagic:
oh hmm. well i did try it no longer works, i just asked to see if i was doing something wrong heh, but ya if causes the device to fall in to a coma i wont use it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
I'm having the save issue. I'm using the latest Hero.zip system.img and the latest zImage with all other files coming from the SuperHero bundle.

Its nice that the TXT is actually sent, but its a huge pain in the ass that it 'says' it isn't sent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] magicozero:
Gps

I have a problem whith my kaiser i have android hero whith jacrom system and i installed ndrive (my friend have original for g1) but gps move map a shots no fluid days ago i have test it and perfect but i change rom for kaiser radio file android etc. and no remember combination for work any idea for help me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
wut? you'd need to elaborate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] magicozero:
Excuse for my english i'm italian
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
GPS is innacurate? This has been an issue before. Did you wait for a lock? Enable GPS in WM6 first? Upgrade radio? ION or Hero?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] magicozero:
lock gps work fix signal in little time, yes i enable gps in wm6.5, radio i 1.65.24.36 and android is system jacXrom (android cupcake whith hero themed)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] killa-mckilla:
im kinda of getting disappointed that this turned into a hero thread :(

no offense though

i love the ion builds, but miss my camera and bt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ibanezbass:
i no. the vogue is getting all the love. camera and bt and we are left in the rain
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
In the SDK, there's a tool called ddm (Dalvik debug monitor) and you can take screenshots with it easily among many other things
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] 2girls1cup:
im looking at my data.img file and I need to know where to look for my contacts. Can anyone help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
this should answer any contact questions you have. In your case, you'd look at /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases.contacts.db
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] k4ever:
Works Great! But...

I'm using the latest build on my ATT Tilt (08/08/09) and I have to say that everything that is suppose to work works great! A lot faster and better looking then Windows Mobile. I even tried the Hero build which worked ok and looked great except for the fact that touchflo was unstable (keep restarting itself after closing apps). I hate to stoke the fires on this but when will bluetooth and the camera get fixed? I understand that they work on the Vogue but no love for the Kaiser/Tilt? With bluetooth and the camera working Windows Mobile will be a distant and painful memory to me. Keep up the good work guys! Is there a section to donate?

Edit: Almost forgot, if you are new to this don't try to use the voice dial or voice search. The microphone does work and once you activate either one of them the system becomes unstable. Don't try to play questionable videos on the phone either.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cijoml:
ripped rom will not help kaiser's linux kernel development. It will be just binary image without code (code is in git.android.com anyway)

And application as such without working kernel fully supporting hardware is just nothink. It is not windows...sorry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
so... Is anyone up to getting this new sdk release onto our kaisers? ;)

And on a side note. I do get the feeling that Haret is not going to be able to handle the filesystem due to it is a larger size than the old filesystem. So lets hope the SD card driver is working...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] marcatarkon:
Hi Guys,

I saw the previous post, and wanted to pass along these nice screen shots from the guys over at engadget...

http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/18/video-android-sdk-v0-9-hits-the-internet-looking-almost-ready-f/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] shadowline:
Edit:

I have been trying endlessly to try and extract the sdk's filesystem to use on the kaiser or to even just get a look at it. And I can not for the life of me figure out how to get it to work. Ive tried mounting it as a filesystem in linux, using the cpio.gz method, even a method that involves installing busybox onto the emulator, and nothing seems to be working at all... any help?

I am pleased to announce that I am playing some of my favorite songs in the music player of android. (in the emulator of course) and the media player is actually not too bad. simple, but it works and looks good.

Heres some screenshots:

and to save space:

http://www.rocknrollcoffeehouse.com/shadowline/Screenshot-Android-media2.png

http://www.rocknrollcoffeehouse.com/shadowline/Screenshot-Android-media4.png

Also, android now seems to have a blur effect in some menus and dialogs. Very nice.... :P

Edit2:

Notice the blurring of the background, and also the media button in the information bar. It shows when media is playing in the background.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] austinsnyc:
I'm sure the new SDK will offer some great things to come plus the HTC device that is being released by T-mobile is almost the same hardware as the Kaiser so there should be no problems porting it over to run on our phones! I can't wait these are fun days...