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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] poly_poly-man:
btw, at least I can't trust android's battery sensor...

tends to close due to low battery after about 15 minutes, then only if I reboot a few times will the battery sensor refresh back to closer to where it should be.

I'm tempted to try to fix up that algorithm...

I also have a plan to (whenever I feel like it, which won't be for a while) start working on a NAND driver. I can afford to lose this phone for weeks at a time now, so I can do stuff like figuring out how to manually flash an spl back on the chip when I realize I've overwritten it...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dzo:
The nand driver does actually work. I even booted a vogue, flashed /system and /data to nand partitions and remounted them thus running completely on nand. Obviously when I rebooted it had trashed wince and I had to reflash it.

The only thing we don't have is a bootloader, though that could possibly be a few instructions at the start of a kernel image which is loaded by the wince loader (xip). I don't know exactly how wince loads and it may do some checking of the image but it's worth a try.

We can either make a ruu with the kernel and fs on it or flash from inside linux when it has booted.

To boot with a nand partition you just need to add something like this to the cmdline:

mtdparts=msm_nand:0x4c00000@0x5c00000(system),0x5600000(userdata)

(you'll have to find the partition layout on kaiser for yourself, those numbers worked on vogue)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
So how risky is it to flash, assuming we get to that point? I mean I was tempted to have flashed "x" version before but with the new stuff coming, how would we ever upgrade afterwards? I know, we could remount and merge but if something unforseen came with a certain build, we could be stuck with, for example, Donut with no audio indefinately right? Working with trying to theme certain core files, I can't just stop/start and test. Framework-res.apk issues will completely take down the system and I need to reboot. But if there was a FS corruption as a result of an unclean umount, that could jeopardize any chance of recovery right? Many people still get fsck warnings after properly shutting down
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
wifi issues

I am having some issues with my wifi (Open, no security). It connects to my router but if I try browsing, sometimes it goes to the website but most of the time it does not. I also tried Google Maps and it downloads data sometimes and then it says "data disconnected, retrying". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. BTW, I'm using basefiles 10/09/2009. Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
clemsyn, this is kind of a thing. If you don't have data like me, I go to Settings and disable all mention of data connection, always on mobile, etc. and it's okay. Market still cries about "no connection" sometimes but persistence is key. Maybe a fix will come but just so much to work on..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cybershrike:
I think Hero hates my phone, jacheroski stays stuck on htc until I open my phone, then it splits the screen so I can *half* see the OS proper, and have the htc logo on the otherside.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I had the same issues :( this is how I got them to work; hope it helps

I found out something wierd and it took forever to figure this out but...

On Ion, Hero and the previous rogers I had to have the config files on the root of the SD card (and the middi set to 320 X 480); for the newest rogers build I had to have the user config files also in a folder called CONF and using the newest kernel.kb7spi and roofts.kb7spi files. Don't know why, but by having the config files in that folder worked. At 1st I deleted the config files from the root and just left them in the folder, when I did that, the Ion, Hero and the previous rogers would not load; I put them back and left the folder, now all 4 work.

[edit]

PS I am using the config files and initrd from the 20091009 base files; I am using DZO's latest roofts and zimage for everything except the newsest Rogers, and the new kernel.kb7spi and roofts.kb7spi files for the new rogers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] cybershrike:
Thanks! I'll give that a whirl tonight, I just had the hero.conf in my root.

Tried everything, even formatted the card just in case it was an issue there. When it started giving me half and half I got a bit annoyed with it, it was just taunting me really. Sort of a 'this is what you could have won'.

Excellent work to the devs by the way! Devs don't get anywhere near enough praise for this sort of work, and you totally deserve it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] clemsyn:
Thanks enatefox. I think I'll just load my old rootfs.img from scarlett-arrow where wi-fi works great. I'll just wait.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
@DZO,

Your insight on the arm cpu and its possible oc and multiple settings was quite clear, been using div=4 and clock = 528...

My only doubt now is the clock-7x00.mddi

After one day, several hours on phone, gps, market, google maps... the list goes... not one problem.

But my issue with OpenGL-ES is still here... not one app...

Can the mddi.height/width affect this?

Sometimes... GLSurfaceView in API Demos works... the first time only tough...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
What is the most recent build you've been able to overclock?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
I'm using the latest i belive:

rootfs-16-10-09.img

zImage-15-10-09

basefiles-20091009.zip

system-2009-08-08.img

Almost everything in my kaiser works...

Just amiss:

-Bluetooth

-MMS

-Videocall (?)

-OpenGL ES
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
open gl es works it's just you gotta force close them to run another demo..at least with me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
multiple builds

I looked and it could not find where this was asked before, so forgive me if it was. I am bouncing back and forth between 4 builds, and currently I have to move the system and data files no longer in use form the root into a storage folder (so I don;'t loose my settings and files on that build), then copy over the data and system file from the other build onto the root; since the files are large this takes forever. Is there a way to run harnet with the system and data file from a spicific folder and not form the root of the sd card? In other words, assign a location for the data and systems files in the default text, maybe? That way all I have to do is run harnet from the folder that I want to run the build from
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
j101399j, no. Moving doesn't take time-- copying will. I keep them in the root and prefix them with the build as I switch. You're jumping between 4 builds, I've got way more than that so you could be off worse.

The longer answer is if you get Haret's source code you could go through and customize that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
That gives me an idea; I am going to write a MortScripts code that will look to see which system file is "missing" and rename the files as needed. That is what I needed, thank you :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] markgau:
Is there anyway to install Chinese IME in Android on Kaiser(Tytn II)?

I try to use the normal way to install CIME to my Android on Kaiser, but I can't change the permission of /system/lib to 777.

If yes, is there anyone can show me? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
There are guides to adding locales. I haven't done that before but others have and can probably help you. Here's a Chinese keyboard though
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] markgau:
Thank you for your help.

I download the file and try to install it, but it shows "無法將CN Thai Keyboard安裝在此手機上". Basically it means I can't install it. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] markgau:
I download files form this thread below.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=512530

I install it and it works. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] rikuhort:
need help plz

i just downloaded the new JACxheroski1_system.sqsh on the android on htc site for kaiser and it doesnt work i made sure i did everything right with the basefiles 2009_10_19 and my default.txt is right but during haret it says that it cant detect hero/rogers build what should i do

________________

Kais110

TPC windows mobile 6.5

1.65.21.18
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] instinctless:
Android is booting but i cant get gmsservice

Hi, as a kaiser user i want to test android an my phone.

its booting up but it says that my pin is incorrect.

:-(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Borkata81:
You must disable pin check in Win Mobile.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] My-life:
Is there a way to get 'system-2009-08-08.img' in Dutch?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
That sounds like you do not have your config files; I had that issue. I was able to get it to work, I am using the 20091009 basefiles, the zImage-kb7sqi and rootfs.kb7sqi.3.img, I have the user config files both on the sd root and in a folder (also on the root) called CONF. Also I set mddi to 320 X 480;
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
And what if i want to add a language to the Android (1.5 ION in this case) ??

Like... i want spanish... or portuguese.... including keyboard... possible ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
One language should install like any other. Try the link he posted and see.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Internet Explorer Button

I know on the main page (1st page of this thread), the internet explorer button (#7) is N/A; but I just tested it on Ion, xRom, Rogers and Hero and if you are in a program, it takes you home. If you long press it, a task manager type menu pops it. You can't close the programs, but it lets you jump quickly between them. This also comes in handy when in opera, when you just want to exit and get back to the home screen.

Just incase you did not know.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
That's the old keylayout settings. I uploaded the keylist to Vogue-Hero as a zip file. You can drop them into /system/usr/keylayout on any build to make it that way if it uses the new layout.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
There's only Traditional Chinese and Japanese there...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
You can find plenty of other IME's like: http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-slovoed-ime-softkeyboard-qqwj.aspx

Why can't you choose the locale in Settings?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] daedric:
Because i only have english :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
After switching between several Android ROMs and .img's I was getting a ton of disk read errors, so based on the advice here I decided to reformat.

WOW. I have never had so many problems formatting a disk in my life. Gparted and parted both gave me FAT32 tables that would error under dosfsck with "Currently only 1 or 2 fats are supported, not 251" (!!!!) Fdisk was able to recreate the table and FAT32 partion that was readable in everything I put it in, except for my Kaiser. This was happening with both my 2GB and 8GB SanDisk cards. Finally, I formatted them with the built-in reader on my girl's HP laptop in Vista, and they work like a charm... except that in the 8GB, a file has reappeared that was deleted several formats ago(?).

In summary, Although jamezelle's 1.3 build is really pretty, hero/senseUI builds are too laggy and I've switched to xROM while I wait for further progress. My dream build would have the HTC widgets, but run in 336x448, and no need for the senseUI/newTouchFlo stuff or weird Hero browser. I might have to learn how to cook an Android ROM...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] UrbanRider:
Where can i get the latest android packs ready to copy to micro-sd root?

Or

Which are the files needed to boot android? (like: zImage, system.sqsh, rootfs.img, etc.)

I'm asking this because i thing the information on "how to run android without using pre made packs" is missing.

Thanks a LOT! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
This has been explained multiple times, read this thread, decide on a ROM, and get your files from the vogue-hero and vogue-android repositories on Google Code. As far as what works with what, YMMV.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Since there have been so many updates to many different files, it takes a bit to get packages together. So I recommend getting the files here...

Install instructions, throubleshoot, what files are needed, ect here: http://www.androidonhtc.com/

All the files needed (zImage, system.sqsh or system.img, rootfs.img, initrd.gz, user.conf files and default.txt) files here:

vogue-android and vogue-hero (all the other builds and stuff)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Heres a zip of my current ION build that im currently talking to my mom with as I type.

http://www.filedropper.com/ion

put on filedropper because the zip limit is 8mb, and the file is 45 (mostly system.sqsh >.>)

[EDIT]

Instructions:

Extract to your root, go into file explorer in WinMo, browse to /Storage Card/, run haret, and hit run.

[EDIT2]

Wow i totally misread your post.

I thought you were asking for files, and couldnt find them.

I need sleep...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] brugazz:
Is there a Cooked ROM winMo 6.5 that can run Android?

WaW... so many posts!

Hello!!

Could anyone tel me if there's a winMo 6.5 Cooked ROM that can run Android?

I did it a few months ago but I cannot get it to work with any of the versions that I tried so far (except for that first one that I don't remember anymore wich one is it).

My kaiser is now running a WinMo 6,5 Dutty's Ultimate ROM (IV)

Thanks in advance!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
Im pretty sure the rom doesnt matter, the radio plays in part.

Mostly because as soon as haret loads, winmo gets tossed.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=574510

Download my ION build. I know that one works (im using it!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] agentofboom:
really?

two tools: search (its a button on this page, i swear) or George Bush's fave- the google

you cant possibly be researching ANYTHING if you cant use that part of the internets.

yep. </fuse pop>
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Shufu's WM 6.5 with the 1.70.19.09 or 1.71.09.01 radio

I'm using DK.10 nakid rom and 1.71.09.01; since I don't use WM anymore, the ROM does not really matter :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carlosdayas:
Working builds with camera?

Hi,

I've been using android for some time now, and it sure rocks!

I wanted to know, can anyone tell me wich builds have a working camera?

As far as I know, dzo's files only work with ION builds, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

By the way, dzo you're the man!

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
I agree DZO is THE MAN!!!

Anyways; so far I have tried the Ion build (google-ion one that is gone now); jamezelle's-v1.3 kb7sqi-magic, Rogers kb7sqi-magic.mod; JACxHeroSki's JACxHeroSki1.6r2a; JACMan's JACManxROM1.43 and a few other Hero and Rogers' builds and so far only the ion worked. However on jamezelle's-v1.3; the camera starts and does not FC; but the picture is screwed up, like no tv reception messed up :(

[edit] Oh wait, I am using the latest zImage-kb7sqi and roofts-kb7sqi.3.img files... Um gotta go back and use DZO and see....:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] LeavingEntopia:
Just wondering if there is a pack I can download that would restore the google apps to Ion. The other builds are just to slow for me.

Also browsing through this forum I see that the same questions are asked over and over and over and somebody has proberbly asked my question but nobody has the time to look over 867 pages! There has got to be a better way to organise all the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] tyeo098:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=574510

Dont forget to buy me a beer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Sheytoon:
I have been playing with Android for a while. And I like it very much and thankful to all the people who spend their time to help the community to import android to Kaiser. Keep up the good work guys.

I recently started playing with Hero. I like all the enhancement and nice graphics and everything, but it is soooooo slow. Is it just me? Do you all experience the same? anyway to fix/improve the speed?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] lamaz:
Disable TouchFlo, it is well documented within this thread. If you don't want to search through this thread, a quick google search for "speed up hero remove touchflo" will provide the first hit with instructions.

Enjoy!

LamaZ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] carlosdayas:
Rosie.apk

I know this has a large potential for being a stupid question, but I gotta know!

Is there any way to install the rosie.apk on the Ion builds?

Sorry if this is in fact a stupid question, and please be kind :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Use OI File manager or Astro; find the file and click it. You will get a popup saying to enable non-market install, enable it and the apk should install. Where did you get the rosie.apk?

You can also use ADB, but that's a little more complicated
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Is anyone else having issues with android.process.acore crashing and restarting on a regular basis? (in ION) Most of the time there isn't even a FC message, it just restarts when going back to the homescreen... I am (nearly) certain that it is crashing out because its PID changes each time the homescreen goes black.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] BlackBsd:
Correct me if i am wrong, but cant you also put a folder on the root of the sdcard called "AndroidApps" and put your *.apk files in there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Its on the vogue-hero site.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
yes, you can do that too.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
Cool, never tired...

So when in windows mobile mode, I am going to create a folder on the Storage card called "\storeage card\AndroidApps";

Now I already have ran harnet and created a data file with the new xRom system.img and did not have that folder. I have 100 apps and would like to auto install them. Do I need to start over (delete the data.img for this system) after creating the "\storeage card\AndroidApps"; then run harnet to create a new data.img file to get them to install, or will they auto install next time I run harnet with the current data.img?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
I don't believe that you need to start over, but you are probably going to want to rename that folder after you boot Android, because it looks for that folder everytime you boot, and you don't want 100 applications being reinstalled at EVERY boot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
okay, I think that I may have figured this out. I used adb logcat to watch the log outputs during the crash, and I noticed that it was throwing a low memory error, which made me think "why the heck is it throwing a low memory error when 'free' shows that I still have plenty of compcache swap available?!" It made me think that maybe there was something in the conf file that I accidentally changed to make the system not use swap as much as it wanted...turns out I was right that there was something in the conf file doing this, but I don't think that it was I who changed it, as I went back and looked at the ion.user.conf file that I got from a basefiles bundle a while back, and it had the same setting. The swappiness was set at 0, which to my understanding makes the system try very very hard to never use swap memory, which kind of defeats the purpose of compcache. I changed this number to 80 (somewhat arbitrarily, experiment with it yourself, the default appears to be 60) and upped my compcache up to enatefox's recommended size of 100. Now right after book 'free' shows nearly 40 megs of compcache swap being used and the crashes (so far...we'll see how the day progresses...) have stopped. So for anyone else getting home screen crashes/blanks/slow to come back...check this out and see if it helps in your situation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
First off, you can put Rosie on an ION build and by the time you've met all of its dependencies you will end up with Hero. A shortcut is to boot Hero.

And the swappiness setting is not related to compcache. Swap is swap, compcache is ramzswap which resides in memory. Setting it to a low number such as 0 means it will prefer to use compcache over swapping out which is what you want as access to data within memory is way faster which is why it was put to 0. The fix you see is that you have allowed almost the entire amount of memory to be able to be dumped into the compcache container. It will almost certainly never fill up with most use-- and you don't want that as it will eat away the memory the kernel, drivers, etc. need and their footprint is a part of the 100MB+ or so of total available memory. You fill it up and things will go bad quickly. That said, you see it average around 40-60MB with 100MB set but if you were to set it to 60MB for example, it would average probably around 20-40MB. Things tend to settle around half of the total size for compcache.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
I'm afraid that I am going to have to contradict you on this one. As far as the system is concerned, it sees compcache/ramzswap as a swapfile...just one that happens to reside in memory rather than on disk and is compressed so that it takes up less space than uncompressed memory would. use the command 'free' in the terminal, and it shows the amount of memory you set for compcache under 'swap.' With swappiness set to zero, i would see maybe 5-10 mb used in compcache, the system would end up unloading processes rather than using the memory it saw as "swap." Also run "cat /proc/swaps" and it shows the ramzswap as swap partition " /dev/block/ramzswap0" What keeps the system using the ramzswap memory before using a disk based swapfile is the priority set on each, the ramzswap is set at a higher priority than any "physical" swap file you may have on the sdcard.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] j101399j:
THAT IS SICK!!! :D I started android, made sure I enabeled non-market apps to be installed. Copied all the apk files in the new folder and they ALL installed. No hassle no need to reset the data.img! Thank you very much; learned something new.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Rhys'Droid:
Learning new things is fun! :-) Like I said, rename that folder before you reboot again though, unless you want them to reinstall everytime you boot... The only thing I don't like about doing it that way is that the the applications lose their link to the "My Downloads" section of the Market (assuming they are market apps) and so its not easy to check for updates. If someone knows of a solution to that problem, I would love to hear it...