yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Ok, I just added it...my first wiki page!

I put it here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

Near the top of the ROM upgrading section. I still have to learn better formatting, but it's presentable.

The Wiki says that * makes bold, but it also says it creates bullets. I found it to only create bullets. How do I bold or underline just a single word in a sentence?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] manfly9884:
Thank You for the quick reply. I will wait till a pc is available to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _Alex_:
Looks great! I switch between good old html tags and wiki code, so I use <b></b> for bold and <i></i> for italics.

I don't advise using html for tables though, too cumbersome. I believe you can find examples for wiki table syntax in my ROM pages as well as alot of other wiki formatting codes.

Hope this helps!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] g00n3r:
Thank you very much for a very informative thread. :)

You've helped me with my laggy WWE 6.1 rom and HardSPL, I now have the original 6.1 SPL and my unit is now working without issue.

I look forward to the new HardSPL based on the 6.1 SPL. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Ultimate Extracted SPL Thread?

There was a thread that predated this one that debated the necessity of flashing SPL's and I noticed that several people posted the extracted SPL's for the various base ROMS currently out there. While I have read this and the thread that discusses how to extract the SPL (and I realize that there are new versions of the HardSPL coming soon) I wonder if we could assemble the extracted SPL's into a single thread (like Alltheway's Ultimate Radio Thread) to make their availabilty easier. Of course if I am missing something fundemental, then this might be completely unecessary. Just a thought.

From all of the great ROM chefs out there, it also might be a nice option to have that base ROM's extracted SPL available for those who have Hard_SPL'd linked in the thread with that custom ROM.

I know that I'm just a lazy mo-fo, but it would also avoid many of the, "Can someone post the xxx SPL from the 'somecountryiveneverheardof' Base ROM" requests that I've seen too.

Again, just a thought. And quite possibly completely unnecessary if I am something fundamental here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Hey wireless....

I actually thought of attaching most of my SPL collection here, but then I changed my mind. This is my reasoning:

The standard user shouldn't need to keep flashing tons of different SPLs. Based on the info we have been seeing it appears that in general the best approach is to use the SPL that comes with the shipped/base ROM. The only SPL swapping should be if you need to switch to another ROM.

If you are a user who wants to try out all these different SPLs (like I have been doing for testing purposes) then you are probably a "power user" as such you should have the knowledge and ability to extract an SPL yourself.

I realize that some people are as you state "lazy" and that's acceptable... we are all guilty of that at some point. However I have recently (since the release of the official HTC ROM) seen an increase in the redundancy of questions being posted and also some genuine confusion.

Extracting an SPL is a 3 minute process and I think that it would do many of the members good to actually "read" this thread (and linked threads) and learn the process. I am really up on the idea lately of teaching men to fish rather then fishing for them.

Please, don't take this personally. I am just responding because you bring up a good issue, that I already thought of but didn't post on.

That being said, I can't stop people from posting SPLs in this thread or any others. But, if it is going to happen I would suggest posting them in my other thread that concerns testing various SPL effects on ROM here.

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcrompton:
Just curious - since I have been doing so many ROM flashes fromthe SD card lately .. do you recommend against ROM flash using an SD card?

It just makes it sooo much easier to flash ROM's uisng the SD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I think flashing a ROM from the SD is fine. But I would discourage flashing SPLs from the SD card. I'm not even sure it is possible, but if it were I wouldn't do it.

Main reason being any possible complications. If a ROM flash goes bad, you just need to load up the SPL/bootloader and do it again. If an SPL flash goes bad...you might have a major problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
No offense taken and thanks for the response. I am not a flash junkie (or at least not anymore. I've made it through the 12 step program :)).

I guess it is partially my lack of understanding of the process. For instance, I would like the flash Death v3., which I understand has the 3.29 SPL. I currently have hard spl loaded. If I want to have the 3.29 SPL, do I have to find the official ROM and extract it from it, then flash it onto my Tilt AFTER flashing the Death v3? I know that the spl has to come from the official ROM, but if a custom is based on the official ROm (like all are) would it have the spl in it to extract? Again, I have the basic idea down, but can't seem to grasp the fner details. I've been flashing since the days of the original XDA, so I'm not a noob, but I can't grasp this one.

Thanks for the help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I know this wasn't directed at me but maybe i can help clear it up. Most of the spl's that people are flashing have been posted in the threads for those roms. I know for sure that the 3.29 SPL was posted by...i think it was AllTheWay. I downloaded it this morning. Seems to make things run a little smoother on the death rom. You definitely want to flash the rom, THEN flash the new spl, and then if you want to change roms you need to flash Hardspl again first...just like when you were on your original rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wireless_one:
Thanks! Good to know that Alltheway did it. when I DL'd the ROM last night it wasn't in the thread. I'll look for it today.

But it kinda of goes to what I think would be helpful, i.e. the chef posts the appropriate SPL in in the same post as the ROM itself, which is better than the Ultimate SPL Thread idea.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
To add to what skatdawg wrote.

In general your statements are correct. If you get a "cooked" ROM they generally don't come with an SPL, since you need to build the SPL into the ROM. In addition, even if they DO come with an SPL cooked in it won't overwrite HardSPL (and by this I mean Oli or Jockyw's...since HardSPL doesn't allow itself to be overwritten!).

So, sometimes you might be able to extract an SPL from a cooked, but in general, yes, you want to extract it from the ROM it is based on. To be honest, I think it would be great if all cooks note which SPL they intend their ROM to be used with, and include the SPL separately to allow you to flash it.

As far as flashing the SPL first or the ROM first. SkatDawg seems to think you should do the ROM first. Personally I have done it both ways and haven't had an issue. However I have tested mostly Stock ROMs, so for cooked ROMs it is probably better practive to flash the SPL last.

And yes, 3.29 SPL has definitely been posted...I'm pretty sure I posted a link in my other thread about SPL effects on ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rjlynn:
BEWARE! CID Unlock is NOT the same as "security unlock"!

Unless your bootloader/SPL says SECURITY UNLOCKED in red on a white background, the ****ed up radios will still get you stuck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vcespon:
One note from my experience today:

HTC 3.02 ROM does not flash if you install the SPL that came with it.

I had to flash HardSPL, install ROM, then install the SPL that's included on the ROM.

That was after a failed update and having to use mtty to get the device out of the bootloader mode.

HTC new 3.28 and 3.29 ROMs can be flashed after installing their own SPLs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eagle 1:
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jtantley:
I installed HardSPL and now I can't get my Tilt to sync...anyone know what the problem is?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Right-click on you Active-Sync icon and go into Connection Settings.

Make sure Allow USB Connections is checked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dwny:
I think that this should be the standard and all cooks should follow suit.

It makes for good practice for the cooks to provide the SPL associated with the base/core of their cooked Rom.

With this new discovery, SPL's will be all over the place and they will get mixed up and that's the last thing, we...as a community need. Folks have a problem selecting the correct radio, now they have to select the correct SPL; looks like the makings of a Brick Souffle'...by the dozens.

This will help keep ROMz & SPL's paired.

Chef's....many thanks in advance for your compliance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tubaking182:
alright guys i must be absolutely stupid or something cause i cannot get an SPL other than HardSPL on my device now and i kind of need to because the phone has been acting up and i can still get att to replace it if i get my original ROM on there with SPL. right now i have ryncppr diamond appeal V4 running and wanted to through an original SPL to see if i noticed a difference, here's what i did:

1. obviously i have HardSPL on there and a new ROM

2. i put JumpSPL1.93(i had the whitescreen error) into the my documents folder on my phone and ran it from my phone while attached to the computer

3. bootloader appears and i never get "usb" to appear, i waited 25 minutes one time and nothing so i went ahead and removed the cable and replugged it in, computer tells me that the device is not recognized

4. never do i get "usb" to appear and i cannot flash SPL onto my phone now

i have windows vista home premium x32 and i didn't haven't any problems getting hardSPL onto my device but now i can't get rid of it. i noticed i couldn't get old SPL on there when i tried to put the original ATT ROM on the phone last night so i could take the phone in today because i wasn't getting any media net connection at all. thanks in advance for the help and thank you bengilah for this thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Something tells me you didn't remove your SD card.

From Post #3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tubaking182:
like i said

:p maybe, maybe not, no i didn't i missed that step. like i said though i must be stupid
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rsfaze:
Thanks for all the awesome info. Very very helpful.

Question. I have an at&t kaiser that I unlocked and put on a hardspl. I've had a few different roms on it with no issues. I am now using wm6.1 and I do get the random freeze. When flashing the updated SPL do I flash SPL then ROM, or will it work with the rom already being on the phone and just updating the SPL?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcrompton:
just flash with rom in place

just update the spl after u have the rom you want in place

don't flash a rom with anything but hardspl in place
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rsfaze:
Hmm thats what I figured. Since the SPL and the ROM are two different pieces you should be able to flash each one independently. I'm still experiencing the random 2 second freeze with Kaiser Diamond v4
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vip_snoopy:
keep up the good work! Woo Woo~
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] grandpareza:
bengalih, this is an amazing thread. I've learned a whole bunch. I was wondering if you could provide a video for flashing between SPLs. The directions are clear and thorough, but nothig beats a video step-by-step procedure. Quite honestly, I think that people would rather watch a video of it done, rather than read about it.

But, eitherway, I'm going to be re-reading this thread several times to digest its nutritious contents. Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Unfortunately I don't know any way to capture the screen when doing SPL loads since as soon as the OS reboots to the bootloader I would lose my display connection for video capture.

I also don't have an external video camera.

It's really quite a simple process as long as you read through the steps there is almost 0% you will cause any harm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] YorikR32:
This is an excellent thread. I have been flashing devices (mostly my old Sharp Zaurus) on the quiet for years now and I haven't as yet flashed my Kaiser. I have previously had issues loading the SPL, but now I have the confidence to give it another go. Thank you very much.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wyrm:
Bengalih, I find your instructions amazingly well-structured and presented. Kudos and my deepest respect, brother.

And full credits to all those great people who made this possible.

Am going to flash my first 6.1 ROM soon, and this will come in very handy before my Kaiser blows up in my face :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] overhaulengines:
flashing new v3.28/v3.29

hello Bengalih, tried to find but, either i missed or i just did not try hard enough,

if i have a new tilt, can i use jump spl-1.93 and the flash new hard spl v3.28/3.29?

i have a friend whos tilt is still virgin (can i say that), :p, anyway my tilts had hard spl v1. by pof, and i installed jump spl1.93 and then flashed 3.28, worked like a charm. i just didnt know if this same thing could be done to a new (virgin, there i go again,:p phone), or is v3.28 taking into account that hard spl v1 by pof has already been done?

thank you

Lupe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
No, none of the hacked SPLs require another hacked SPL to be in place. (CID unlocking i think is a different story...)

SSPL or Jump-SPL is always required on fresh AND already HardSPL'd devices:

The reason you need them on a fresh device is that it isn't hacked already, so you need to load up a soft SPL (which is a temporary hack) to allow the HardSPL to be put on.

The reason you need them on an already HardSPL'd device is that HardSPL has code in it that doesn't allow it to be overwritten. So, you need to load the soft SPL and perform in a similar manner as above.

I believe if you just follow the instructions posted over in JockyW's new thread you will be fine.

To minimize chances of error make sure:

1) You remove SD and SIM cards

2) You first remove and reinsert the battery

3) You use JumpSPL-1.93

Not all of those are always needed, but might as well minimize any chance of failure beforehand.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] overhaulengines:
thanks, just to make sure i have this straight,

on my new tilt, jump spl1.93 then hard v3.28, again just making sure i did not have to to do pof's hardspl first.

To minimize chances of error make sure:

1) You remove SD and SIM cards

2) You first remove and reinsert the battery

3) You use JumpSPL-1.93

then flash hard spl v3.28 or 3.29

thank again for you time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
correct. Follow the full guideline/procedure in JockyW's thread...but yes that is the basic method.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] oxydiom:
ٌWhere can I find JumpSPL...?:o:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=354061

Please try searching in the future. It wasn't that hard to find.:)

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jmbneaf:
My AT&T tilt shows this at the rainbow screen:

KAIS1*0

SPL-1.0.OliPof

CPLD-8

I'm considering a hacked/improved WM6.1 ROM -

Do I need HARDSPL 3.29 ??

Thanks in advance - tried reading other threads and was not able to determine if I really need this or not.

-J
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Usually the SPL Version u need is in the ROM thread (or it should be).

Rule of thumb:

V1 for WM6 ROMS

3.28 for HTC TyTN II ROMS

3.29 for ATT Tilt ROMS.

HTH

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jmbneaf:
thanks!

As a side note - when installed, at the rainbow screen it should read:

KAIS1*0

SPL-3.29.Hard

CPLD-8

-J
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nicholasendean:
THANK YOU

Simply wanted to say thanks for an excellent post. I have learned from the ground up today all about spl. I thought I knew it all am must admit to becoming somewhat complacant. But having recieved a replacement TILT recently I thought I would at least refresh my memory

It was easy to find too which is cool.

Have a great day and thanks for sharing your knowledge my friend.

Nick :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ApexPredatorBoids:
I believe in one of the very first posts you made in this thread, Bengalih, you stated something along the lines of "you can flash ANY rom with HardSPL 1.0 or JockyW 1.1." Does that apply to cooked 6.1 roms also or do you HAVE to use 3.2x HardSPL for them? I'm confused about all of this because I noticed some Chefs recommend that you should have your device "security unlocked" before flashing their roms..but according to this thread (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=361236) the security unlocker won't work with 3.2x HardSPL. Is the security unlock very important or is it better to have the SPL-3.2x.hard? I like to think I'm not entirely stupid..but some of this stuff just isn't quite clicking for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Hi APB,

You can flash any ROM with any Hard SPL, simple as that. The different versions allow for better compatability (i.e. less screen freezes whilst running the OS). For the WM6.1 Roms you should be using one of JockyW's 3.* Hard SPLs. But to flash the ROM, any Hard SPL will do.

Once your device is security unlocked it will stay that way even if you change SPL, Im using 3.56 Hard SPL and I'm security unlocked. Flash to HardSPL 1.0 (OliPro) and follow the steps in the link you posted. Then flash to the best Hard SPL for you. Been sec unlocked means there is less chance your will brick your phone if some bad happens whilst flashing, or if you flash a bad radio for example.

HTH,

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ApexPredatorBoids:
Now I'm back to the problem I had when I first got the tilt a few days ago. When I try to flash HardSPLv1 I get a white screen after running the RUU. I tried using JumpSPL1.56 and 1.93 to get around this but Nothing happens after I run the Hardspl. I get the command prompt telling me to make sure the AS icon is green then hit enter..I hit enter and nothing happens(other than the AS icon going grey). I've literally spent 15+ hours flashing and trying different things in the past few days and now I have myself even more confused. I'm tired, frustrated, and about ready to throw this damn thing against the wall..but then I remember the $$ I wasted on it and come to my senses. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
From what I can gather you need to follow these steps. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=354061

Can you follow them excatly and let me know at what you've done and what the problem is (if you get one)?

Hopefully this will sort it. If not let me know.:)

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ApexPredatorBoids:
UGH I'm an idiot. I've done so many different operations in the past few days I had myself all mixed up. I forgot about the step involving the "flash-hardSPL" file from the link you posted. Got that squared away and now have olipof hardspl 1.0. I'm running the security unlocker now. Think I have it now..Thanks SO MUCH for you help. I fully expected to be flamed for sheer stupidity.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
I dont flame people, unless I can see there been lazy or trying to take advantage.

I agree with Mike's view : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2420360&postcount=21

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ApexPredatorBoids:
I'm glad you feel that way. Now I have 2 more issues..First and foremost when I try to re-flash the original radio (1.64.08.21) I get an "Error [240] File Open". Secondly I thought that if the device was actually security unlocked it'd say so in red letters at the top of the bootloader screen? Mine doesn't say that although step 2 of the security unlocker completed successfully.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
1) See the RUU_Errors page on the Wiki (I just created it) :)

2) In jockyw's post he says to download the supercid from the threads attachments and overwrite the supercid from the rapidshare download. I think that fixed it for me.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ApexPredatorBoids:
You are officially my new hero! Issue 1 was more lack-of-sleep induced idiocy on my part. I tried to run the RUU on a rar file. Unzipped it with winrar and the flash worked like a charm. Issue 2 was just like you said..used the attached supercid.exe file instead of the megaupload one and I'm now officially "Security Unlocked". Some of the threads get so long and convoluted that even with a sincere effort to find what I'm looking for..it's easy to miss some things. Thanks again for all your help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] profjekyll:
Revert to original SPL using only microSD

Hi

I am trying to revert back to the original SPL (which I have extracted from an original ROM) so that I can return the phone to HTC.

However, the problem is that the USB socket on the phone is broken and the only way I can install ROMs is by using the microSD card method.

It appears that you need to use Soft SPL to update the SPL (mine is currently Hard SPL 3.56).

Can anyone tell me if using S-SPL 3.56 allows you to install an SPL NBH from the microSD card like H-SPL 3.56 does?

(by renaming it to KAISIMG.nbh, putting on the microSD and holding Camera button + resetting)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
No it wont! jockyw2001 is working on something but as of yet it I havn't seen anything from him.

EDIT: See this post and the first few pages for more info.

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] profjekyll:
Thanks for your swift reply, you are a gent!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] atomlife0707:
hi bengalih, after reading jockyw's hardspl 3.xx installation procedure. I feel a bit confused. if my tytn2 is using the original rom and has not installed any hardspl b4. do i need to do the soft / jump spl b4 installing his latest hard spl 3.xx. thx in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Go back to the other thread you posted in and re-read the FAQ in Post #2.

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] atomlife0707:
thanks for your advice, Dave.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Ozone:
i flash to hard spl 3.56 . how can i check if all gone fine? is possible to see what version of hard spl i have? before i got 3.29.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] atomlife0707:
after reading your discription for quite some time. I wanna make sure i m not missing any step.

first - place the sspl on my ppc and run it

then - run hspl

finally - install the rom i wanna try.

thanks