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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
Had a very very similar issue recently. Android would randomly just shut off. However I would get random shutoffs in WM as well if I pushed the phone a bit, ie Google Maps + GPS + whatever else, would be too much of a draw on the battery and it would just commit suicide and turn off.

This problem was just amplified in android to the point it was difficult to do anything. When it would crash though it would drop to like 2-5ish percent. Then turnoff, often times able to boot back into wm with 90% left.

If you haven't had to replace your battery, might be a good time to. After replacing mine, I haven't had random shutoffs in either OS.

Not sure if the fact that I started with a new batter in android, and rarely touch WM but I can go a full day with moderate use and never be completely drained.

Hope this helps....

to note I am not on any of the most recent builds (mine is from a week ago), so their could be a new issue causing this that I am unaware of...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Just wanted to say goodbye, and thank you

Hey guys,

I just wanted to say thank you, mainly to Martin, Jesse, and Craig.

Without you guys I wouldnt have enjoyed my Kaiser nearly as much.

Once the Dream was available from Roger's with support for AT&T 3G, I couldn't resist:

By the way, I've now got a very good condition AT&T Tilt KAIS100 for $99 if anyone wants it.

I'll be in the dream forums,

Mb
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Pandemic187:
I have a question: can I access my phone via USB when my phone is booted into Android and my computer is running Linux? It would makes sense to me, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Ding911:
Why?

I don't post often at all but I read every forum post in this thread and check it 3 times a day. So basically, I'm not new. But I have a question? Why are we doing this? I know why I am. I cant afford a new phone and I already have a Kaiser so may as well make the best of it. Is there any other reason than this to use a Kaiser other than getting a Hero or a Dream? Just curious. Sorry if its a stupid question.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
well same seems to happen to me and is the biggest show stopper for the time being (no use of wifi if u dont have the battery to run it). there is one thing i checked. in android->spare parts->battery information, the battery voltage is at 4201 mv when connected to charger and drops to about 3600 or around that over 3 hrs of battery usage. maybe its just battery life issue. can someone please check and confirm ????? i think this is whats killing the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] wornbat:
Possibly because we can.... and from the deep seated hatred of Windows.

Thats my motivation anyways
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
well 10 minutes should have been enough. just out of curiosity, are u using a high capacity sd card i.e. greater than 2 gb cause so far it doesnt work with that for now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Amaranthus:
Works just fine with my Sandisk 4GB card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Cause android is better than windows mobile
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obaz:
not agree.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
Cause Kaiser is a good computer and Dream/Magic are toys. Cause we want android in a good computer. And... well... cause it's funny. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
is it good?

Hi!

I am due for an upgrade at end of August on T-mobile and if they get there finger out i think in the UK it will be called a G2 Touch - orange UK have already? Is it good? - Do you miss the keyboard?

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] obaz:
I agree whith it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] SnootchieB:
@philfred The pictures posted by mburris are of the HTC Dream, known in the UK as the T-Mobile G1. The G2 Touch is the HTC Hero and is now available from the T-Mobile UK website. According to T-Mobile, it should be available in stores within the next couple of weeks. I think the handset is free on 18 month Combi 30 or Flext 40 tarrifs. Been out of contract with T-Mobile myself since April and am seriously considering picking up a G2 Touch after using Android on the Kaiser/Vario III.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Thanks ibanezbass - That got the Tilt working better, the only thing that is actually worse now is the gps/location (i'm in Dallas, TX, not Savannah, Georgia)

Any clues as to which file i could change to try to correct that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
:confused: Dude, just a few posts above you:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] enatefox:
Hey guys, is this THE Android for phones as in The Google?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
anyone can explain me what is that nem ADDON on code.google ?

libhtcgeneric-ril.so

and if has any use on kaiser or is only for vogue ?

btw: is already that keyboard lag fixed ? i stoped using android because that :\
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mburris:
Like someone else said, I've got the HTC Dream same as the G1 by tmobile except mine has the 850/1900 bands needed for 3G with AT&T.

And yes, its gooooood.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Has anyone ever figured out what causes the GPS to not work in Android when it works fine in WinMo? It either says the location can't be determined, or it places me in Savannah, GA (i'm in Dallas), i've tried different combinations of "use wireless networks" & "enabled GPS satellites", but can't get anything consistent in google maps, weather bug, etc....

I'm using a mixed breed currently, the mssmisonsystem.img and initrd-23-07-09.gz.

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
I successfully got this running with the hero system image and zImage-24-07-09.

EDIT: I got the internet working.

I can't set any sort of notification sound at all on my device whether it's a ringtone, text tone, etc. The phone does make sounds though whenever I change the volume. Can anyone help me in remedying this matter?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
Did you download the notification.zip from the Google Code site? Try putting that in your SD root.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
dzo made some fixes to the ril code for the Vogue because of the sms errors they were having. He included this file so users could use abd to push the update versus rebooting their phone.

Not sure if any of his updates effect the kaiser at all, so I don't think this file will be much of use to us.

Post he discusses this in:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=4218790&postcount=1349
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
extract it to /notification in WM

this should give you quite a bit of rings and tones to use in android.

You can then use the built in tone selector or one from the market to browse through them and assign them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
EDIT: I forgot to unzip the resources.zip file. Go me.. -_-
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list

Yes noticed that it is actually called resources.zip...

Just extract that and you should be good to go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] roadhead:
Where did you get and and can you get more :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] philfred:
oh boy

Thanks m8, i saw that orange was doing this and have read loads and hoped this would happen! I am so please my kasier is slowly dieing (probably did die already!) and this looks like a nice new phone..

And i get a free upgrade come the 25th August 2009 - YIPEE!

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
has anyone had success with other android roms like mssmisonsystem.img?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] StarWolfX0:
Anyone have the Hero Rom or Rosie version working? Or something to allow Rosie .apk?

Just was wandering on any update!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Have 8GB. Working flawlessly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Where, how?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
You need a Rogers branded model. Check eBay, there are a few there. Same applies for the Rogers version of the Magic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] momo254:
What are some resolutions that some of you guys are running? I'm using the resolution that was stated in default-kaiser.txt It seems too blurry for my eyes especially when reading texts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
good for you. for me it fails with no partion on sd error. what build are you running ??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] skola28:
I've had good success with 336 x 448

Some applications seem to need a bit more space, but at least 336 x 448 is on the 16 bit boundary and is 1.3333333 aspect ration (4:3). The default one is terrible and should by no means be used on the kaiser. I have no idea why they keep leaving that as the default.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
I've also got an 8GB HCSD running it just fine. I'm using:

mssmisonsystem.img (july 25th)

zImage-27-07-09

initrd-23-07-09.gz

I've been using the mssmison system for less than 24hrs and before i was using the same setup but with the NK Hero system.

And just in case, heres my startup.txt:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
thnx for the update. i abandoned my 8gb card a few builds back and never got around to test it with the latest. will try again tonight and see if it works
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] TaC:
324x432 seems slightly better to me. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] zakmcintyre:
7-30-09 initrd trouble

I can not get this to boot on my Kaiser. I am using 6.1 Hyperdragon Rom, mssmisonsystem.img, with 7-27-09 zImage. Kaiser says that it cannot load initrd.gz. Going back to previous version to see if that fixes things. Thanks for all that you guys do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
336x448 is a good resolution but it adds a thiny black strip on the left :\

btw: latest initrd doenst fixed keyboard lag :( devssss pleasee fix that laggg :( :( :( :( :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Latest, though regardless of build was always running w/o problems. Make sure that you put correct paths in default.txt or startup.txt for HaRET. If they are correct - try reformat with default cluster size, may help; 'cause from what I recall I may have had to reformat mine. Though it was awhile ago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
My PC finally recognized the android phone and installed these adb drivers for it. Thats good...what's it for though I read somewhere that it was being used to do updates without booting into winmo if this is possible on the kaiser how do I do it. I tried a search on the thread "adb" comes back with 0 matches
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Zack84a:
abd connection is a bit different then what we are used to with WM.

abd lets you push and pull files, and issue console commands. It is possible to update some files via adb, not sure which ones.

Here is a link with some commands and a way better explanation then I could ever give.

http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] gleonard3:
WARNING

Latest "initrd-2009-07-30.gz" posted on Google Code http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/ seems to have broken data for me. No E or 3G icon appears. Went back to "initrd-2009-07-23.gz" and all is well again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
tried the latest build. i get the same error.

-------------------------

Running an fsck on the SD card

dosfsck 3.0.2 23 Nov 2000, FAT32, LFN

Logical sector size is zero

mount: mounting /dev/block/mmablk0p1 on /sdcard failed: invalid argument

Failed

Failed to mount the sd card. cannot continue

---------------------------------

ill try to google it as well now that i know u guys are able to run it. any ideas??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
i can get data .. had some problems with that at the beggining.. the icon doesnt appears after setting apn.. but connect and disconnected some times in modem and worked after it :)

i thinked that my battery drains faster :\ 100% at 9AM now at 8PM i got 20% :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
i'll rewrite the modem portions of the initrd again tonight (my tonight is 6 hours from now). I don't like how it is working at all... before or after the update from this morning.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ajclai08:
If your left led light is staying green, plug it into usb and unplug it..then the led should be off and blink on the right side where wifi usually is. If the right led stays on i noticed the battery doesnt last as long.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mike233:
Data worked fine for me using the 7/30 initrd (after manually connecting with modem), but SMS messages could not send/receive. Try texting yourself to see if you have the same issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] ruizit0:
vilord can you take a quick look to that issue on kaiser keyboard lag ? is something simple ? or it takes some time ? and its harder than it looks to fix ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
BTW I've been running on a 8GB SD card this entire time with a 256MB data.img. My USB headphone/charger adapter works. Also, I can access my phone through USB with Linux. Even Tetherbot works! I did read thoroughly and follow the directions... maybe that's what did it.

Still running with the android ION package from 25-06-09, my data.img has never become corrupted and I don't get too many comas. Random battery charging/not charging/dying would be the biggest problem.

3 Android things I'm loving right now:

Hold the 'internet explorer' button to fast task-switch

The JS Weather Widget app. Free and lightweight!

Google Voice. 2 fully-functional numbers on 1 phone. If you get a Voice invite, grab a number ASAP. I was still able to get one that has a real word for the last 4 digits.

Windows Mobile is dead to me now.

:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
agreed about google voice, loving it :) I got a number ending UNIX so I'm happy enough.

what did you need to do to get tetherbot working? anything special?

RE The keyboard, I'll take a look at it when I get the chance, I want to clean up the RIL tonight... and the keyboard issue is in the kernel, not initrd.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] milas:
WHAT!? READING!? Unbelievable.

I'm glad to hear the headphone/charger adapter works though, I just got mine in the mail today after upgrading to a 8GB microSD recently, so it'll be nice to be able to use Android to play music on my upcoming 20 hour drive. Huzzah.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MooNWalker:
Never mind.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Smultie:
Could you please share with us how you did it?

I've tried in op both a XP 32bit and a XP 64bit system and neither of them worked....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] WizRd:
Latest kernel, without doing anything I just plugged it into my vista 64bit machine and Found New Hardware popped up... So nothing special other than the latest kernel from the google code site.

The only problem I seem to have left is the GPS puts me in Japan, but I am actually located in Australia, both Google Maps and GPS Status, then typing the coordinates into google earth show the same location... Any suggestions or is this being worked on so I should just shutup and wait?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
File clarification:

:confused:

Which file is responsible for gps working correctly? I've noticed it works when I use some builds and not others.

Same question for the phone powering itself off and me having to restart it.

If I can start switching individual files that may resolve the issues I have...or maybe not....especially if the file that controls both of those is one and the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] garringm:
Couldn't tell you I had plugged it in and then had to boot into winmo for tethering as I was in the process of this it was recognized but not installed. I hurried a long with what I was doing to get back into android and voila an HTC Dream Composite Interface was recognized and installed but I have no idea what to do with it now. Like I said I read that the voque users were updating through it if this is possible with the kaiser then by all means someone teach me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] adlaw:
Hi

Im using fresh install of 23/7/9 build with Radio: 1.65.17.56 and I cant make calls. It just hangs up. I can receive calls and use data, but no calls.

I tried flashing device with Paradox v2.3 Rom and Radio. 1.71.09.01.eMo but I have the same problem.

What Can I do to fix the out going calls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] polyrhythmic:
My number ends in DRUM, so as you can tell by my username I'm very happy. :D

Nothing special to get it working. I followed the Tetherbot instructions, and used this guide on xda for Linux setup. I already have Ubuntu 9.04 installed, so I just downloaded the SDK and setup my UDEV rules.

Note that my udev rules are located in /lib/udev/rules.d, NOT /etc/udev/rules.d -- I think that change was made for 9.04.

Don't forget to go into Settings -> Application -> Development and check Stay Awake, so your device will stay connected.

Cheers,

Charles
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Homeryz:
Steps I used to upgrade with working GPS

Like many of you, I’ve been getting frustrated in wanting to use the new cool looking Android, but in doing so, a lot of my functionality went away… i.e. the GPS.

Since so many have done such great work here and I appreciate it, I decided to put a little time and sweat into seeing if I could get a procedure that everyone could follow to get things working.

1.	So to get everything working, including GPS, the trick seems to be to start with the build android-1.5-2009-06-30.zip the GPS doesn’t really work in this build but it has that fake GPS and that is the key to getting GPS to work. So check Google maps you should have the fake “My Location” blue button moving around California. While here set your APN. Spend a few minutes here to make sure that what “should be working” is working, let google synchronize, all that good stuff.

2.	Now load the initrd.gz, zimage and system.img files from the android-1.5-2009-07-09.zip build, but DO NOT touch the “DATA.IMG” file. Boot android (IE must be connected in Win Mob), start your modem, go to google maps, and my location GPS should now be working for real.

3.	(this step I think can be skipped) I next loaded the initrd.gz, zimage and system.img from android-1.5-2009-07-23.zip, and everything still worked because I didn’t touch the “DATA.IMG”!

4.	If you want the newer files I think you can skip step 3. I then loaded the initrd-2009-07-30.gz, zImage-27-07-09 and mssmisonsystem.img (I changed the names of the files to match the default names). Everything continued to work including GPS **!! BUT!!! The GPS was OFF by about 185 miles, which kind of makes it useless. The cause of this was mssmisonsystem.img (as mentioned in another post)

5.	I then loaded system-nkhero-2009-07-24.img (again changed the name to system.img) and GPS started working correctly again along with everything known to be working.

So remember leave the DATA.IMG file you made in step 1 alone!!!

The files mentioned above can be gotten from the following links.

http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds

http://www.androidonhtc.com/carrier_network_settings

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-andr...+Filename+Summary+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount

I hope this helps cause it took a lot of time and rebooting.

Good luck

Homer
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
new hero bundle

Just downloaded and dropped onto my SD card, and it launches, and rolls over & over on the splash screen - which looks pretty cool, btw.

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/list
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] mikentucson:
same here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
+1... i tried a new data.img and using the existing data.img, but neither worked.

but it looks like somebody's workin on it so i'll wait a few hours and check back again.

And yes, the new splash screen looks excellent. Just wish there wasn't sound...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
and the sound is LOUD :)

Where did you see someone was working on it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
Google Maps freezing on all of the system.img

No matter which build or image I use now, google maps will come up and then freeze if i hit the "my location" button and the tilt/android freezes. Anyone have any experience with this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
i just saw that there was an upload 30 min ago with a new initrd. so I'm assuming that there might be some other things being worked on. I've been known to be wrong though :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] vilord:
hey all... what is failing? What data.img are you using? You gotta give some more details...

homer, with the nk image loaded... what happens if you rename data.img to something else and then just boot up? It should create a new data.img that should work just fine including gps... please let me know
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] MiZi666:
mh, i tried the new HERO.rar from google code.

android looks like it will booting, i can hear the very loud booting sound *shocked*, but it won't boot, it freezes after the sounds.. :/

i just downloaded the new initrid.gz and now it freezes before i can hear the sounds.. :/

anyone any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] JacenSolo2001:
I just let it create a new data,img file - but now i'm freezing on everything. Should i just delete all the android related files and start again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] loserskater:
The new hero bundle seems to have an endless reboot on startup. This happens with both an existing data.img and if you let it create one.

The reboot seems to happen right when it's about to start. In other builds I've noticed the keypad lights up and then you get the lock screen, but this one the backlight on the keypad lights up and then comes the HERO startup screen again.

I've tried using the 8-1-09 initrd, but that causes it to lock up before the startup screen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Cryonic90:
I have the same issue as mentioned a few times here. With the new system.img and the initrd from the zip file, it stays in a constant loop.

With an older system img and the initrd from 01-08, I don't have a data connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] dbudensiek:
Same problem here with the new hero build. Will not do a complete boot. Just loops even on a fresh memory card and just the basic files. (no data.img)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development] Faraz Ahmed Ikram:
me too. cant seem to boot. love the startup screen though