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[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AstroDigital:
I like the new Generation sure the battery life in custom mode with everything on maybe a bit worse than Generation 4 but at the end of the day I get easy 30% .... fooling around with it a bit more too because it is new.

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Never been that happy but when I wake the watch so far I always have been able to read it.

"Kind of the trade of the brighter the display the worse the battery life"

Glass not sure ? Never has a problem or scratches with the Generation 4
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoOlSlY:
Different story for me, it's my hmmm 9th or 10th smartwatch, the Gen5 for me is a disappointment. The quality is not just there for now. MAYBE if they fix the bugs but other than putting the speaker to off, you can't quiet the watch when finishing charging. Also, the speaker distort a lot and waiting for a firmware update so for now, it's being returned to Fossil. Will wait for the Vivoactive 4s, the upcoming Diesel that might have a newer firmware and maybe the Galaxy Watch 2.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AstroDigital:
Really I must have got the one working watch.

I pull the watch out the charger at 7am and at 11pm I still have 70%....

Always on display, I turned off nothing including NFC, WiFi, GPS, bluetooth

My way of thinking is if it is not connected it is not working.

I read people can not find the battery modes ?

Swipe from the top down, what do you think the battery icon is for ?

Just for kicks I may one day see just how long I can make the battery last....

The watch is extremely fast and responsive.

For me there is no other choices, Galaxy Watch .... no apps, no Google Pay.

If you are not using a Samsung Device ??

The Fossil Generation 4 I guess is not bad, no speaker...... but most people in this thread are complaining about the speaker anyway. However I do agree above all the speaker can use some work.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sagar_1401:
for everyone who is facing google assistant issue i also had similar issues that GA doens't use to talk to me but then i came to know that you need to change the language of your mobile follow this

settings -> system -> languages & input -> languages and add English(UK) or English(US) to the list and keep it on first.

and the one which will be on first should be the language set in your watch as well. the reboot your watch and voila you can talk and get response from GA

hope this fixes your issue.

and with the calling issue and speaker issue its a major wear os bug on july 2019 patch. we will have to wait for new patch to be launched.

Have a good one
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tedcousens@gmail.com:
Wear Media for Wear OS

able to upload music to my Gen 5 but noticed a considerable lag when accessing the app on the watch. It takes a while for all the albums to show up and then it takes 15 seconds sometimes to have the first song of an album to show up, which is necessary to start playing. Anyone have a similar experience?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swordsman001:
Guys, is it possible to sideload apps to gen 5?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SharDK:
My Gen5 is making a TIK noises many times a day, is this normal?

And sometimes the watch accepts phone calls all though I disabled that feature.

otherwise i am happy with the watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
Don't know if it's normal, but mine is making that sound also. Discovered the sound when sitting on the toilet :D
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tedcousens@gmail.com:
no TIK but...

mine is opening up media players although I disabled that function. I am finding that Music Player for Wear is sketchy and sometimes uploads music to the wrong folders and that the Bluetooth is sketchy at best - funny that BT can purportedly travel 30 feet (in my dreams) but cannot go through a body. So, I play music through my phone to my BT headset mostly, so the app shouldn't open on the watch. Sorry if Im hijacking the thread...
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XD-MOD2-9MM:
Best smartwatch you can get besides some gay Apple watch
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ymmp:
Since last update (around Oct 12) the Audio has gotten worse.

Anyone else notice this?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
No, I don't use the audio, only for notification sound.

What I noticed is, when the battery-saving is activated due to low power, after charging my watch, it's automatically set back to it's original powersetting. That wasn't before though?

Is there a change log available? Does anyone know where we can find it?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoOlSlY:
For me it's the opposite. Well, I don't listen to audio but the voice when answering the phone is no longer choppy (returned the Fossil, now with MK but it's a Fossil so same thing)...
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_86:
Mine is better as well. Not worse at all
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thisguy159:
Not getting notifications after charging

Hi I have OP 6t for phone and this watch. Everything I charge the watch once I wear it again it does not provide notification. I have to restart it, the watch that is, for everything to work again.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dboyrusky:
Is there a tpu case for this watch? Can't seem to find one..
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GSLEON3:
Just to add a bit, I am not saying that the Gen 5 battery life is stellar, but it is WAY better than you first think. I almost returned it, after looking at XDA. However, I happened upon a few Reddit posts that indicated battery life got better over the course of several days.

My Carlyle HR Gen 5 only lasted maybe 1-1/2 to 2 hours after first charge. Maybe 4 or 5 hours day 2. Then after about 5 days to a week it began lasting about 18 - 24 hours. It seemed to gradually get better up to a week. With heavy use, it goes in 10 - 14 hours. With normal to lite use, it lasts me the whole day.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] c_86:
I end now around with 60% depending on the day. After about 13 hours off charger. And that's medium usage.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sommesepino:
Hi guys, since today I have trouble with "ok google" (my smartwatch doesn't recognise it even if option is enabled). Moreover speaker is sounding very low even if it always works correctly (since now [emoji16]) Someone of you have my same troubles? Thank you in advance and a nice day to all

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[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dramake:
Hello,

I've purchased this watch about a week ago, and so far so happy with everything (well, battery could last longer) but the GPS. I don't know if I have a faulty watch or the GPS signal is just terrible but I've been for a couple of runs since I got it and Google Fit shows the map with straight lines, which makes me wonder how accurate is the distance and speed that it reports me after a run.

Also the app Strava doesn't seem to get any gps signal (and actually this is the app I want to use, not Google Fit). This morning I tried to start an activity with Strava and eventually it started counting distance, but after finishing it I saw the same map than with Google Fit, just straight lines.

Opening Google Maps seem to lock into my location alright though.

Any ideas? Guess I will have to return it otherwise, I can do more things with this watch than with my old Amazfit, but Amazfit tracking was perfect.

P.S. All this while connected to the phone, haven't even tried the watch on its own.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XD-MOD2-9MM:
You have to enable location from watch and phone
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
Getting a GPS-fix is terrible, but if you finally have a fix, the GPS is accurate (on a 6,5km run, the difference between my phone and Gen 5 is maybe 100-200 meters).

I used to use both the phone and gen 5 location. But last times it went wrong (bad registration of my route), so now I'm disconnecting my Gen5 in the WearOS app before running. Before I start, I place my watch outside in the garden (with Endomondo) to be sure he makes a good fix. It's not what I expect from a watch of that price, but I works for me. I used Strava, but it can't give me a feedback every km, so that's why I use Endomondo. (afterwards I import the run into Strava with SyncMyTrack).
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dramake:
They are both, of course, enabled. No luck with it..

Funny thing is the app GNSS seems to fix quick enough (yesterday it did it in 25ish seconds, today tried again and it took 85ish seconds).

I thought endomondo doesn't have a Wear OS 2 compatible app? I'd be happy using Endomondo too since I can sync to Strava fairly easy.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
Is this with your phone connected? Because then it will use the GPS signal from your phone ?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mightywhites29111971:
I am having the same problems with GPS. I never had these problems on my Huawei Watch 2 which is what I upgraded from. From what I've been reading on my searches to resolve the problem some people state it's a WearOS update that is causing the issue and Google are aware of it, but either can't be arsed or don't know how to fix it (the latter being unlikely).

I found an app called Wear Logger for my runs, but like GNSS can take a couple of minutes to get a fix. I've logged tickets with Fossil and Strava and am not getting any meaningful response from either. This should not be difficult to resolve and a smartwatch that costs as much as the Carlyle should have untethered GPS with no issues!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] °Dexter°:
I’m on the edge of getting a fossil 5, gr8 discount right now, but I’m concerned especially about haptics.

One major use for Smartwatch for me is the morning alarm, I had no issue using Galaxy Watch 46mm and Apple Watch 4 in the past, but I’ve read online that fossil 5 vibration is pretty weak (and not customizable for alarms, only notifications), even compared to a ticwatch c2.

Does anyone have any experience with the same watches as I do, to compare?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dersie:
Gen5 have also sound for Alarm.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] °Dexter°:
My point is exactly trying to avoid sound alarm :D
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
It seems to me that turning off the Bluetooth from your watch gives you a quicker fix. I'm not really sure, didn't wrote down the time everytime, but it looks like the GPS fix is a little quicker.

I know, for a watch of this price, you shouldn't need a workaround for getting a GPS-fix, but it's worth to give it a try.

@"dexter", I don't use my watch as a wake up alarm. Need to charge it every night, so when I'm fully charged after a night with my eyes closed, my watch is also fully charged ;)
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
Yeah it's basically impossible to use this like a normal smartwatch due to the horrific battery life. I do track my sleep with it, but I have to charge it about 3 times a day. If I go to sleep with the thing on my wrist, I typically wake up with about 80% IIRC, then if I go straight for an hour jog at 5am, my watch will be down to about 30% when I get back. If I jog for 2 hours, it most definitely dies on me. Pretty terrible that you can't wake up and go for a run on this thing. AOD even turns off while I'm sleeping.

Fingers crossed that the new update helps with some of this. "Theater Mode" has been sorely missed by me, coming from a Galaxy Watch.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
[MENTION=800534]ScrapMaker[/MENTION]

My battery was terrible also, but after a complete reset and reinstall the batterylife is much better. I wake up at 6am and grab my watch. If I run at 6pm for 40min it goes in battery save mode during my run.

After the reset, it's going in battery save mode (with running that day) at 10-10.30pm. that's acceptable for me.

The theater mode I only use in the shower, because the water drops are making the screen crazy ?

Also curious for.thr next update, especially the sport tracking. Hope it will synchronise nice with Google fit.

The new battery mode options is (I think) only make some compromises between battery life and available active options on the watch.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
I've reset this thing about 20 times, since you are required to do so when you reset your phone, no dice. I've just gotten used to charging the watch while I'm WFH, showering, or using actual exercise equipment that already tells me my calories burned. For comparison, I never had to disable a single feature on my OG Galaxy Watch, and it always lasted 2 days, unless I was going on an 8-hour hike or something, and tracking that. This watch here dies after about 4 hours on a hike, regardless of AOD/etc being disabled.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
Funny, I got the update about 20 minutes ago and I can't tell any difference whatsoever. I don't see any new settings, applications, or anything like that. No way to see my blood oxygen levels or initiate sleep detection. Perhaps there was a minor update pushed before the major update that's being talked about in the news. Does anyone know what bill you should expect for the new fancy feature set? I'm at PXDG.200726.011.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
I've got the update for 2 hours or something.

The battery mode is changed and there is a new app, called wellness. There you can track your sleep and sports.

See here for more info

https://help.wearablessupport.com/hc/nl/articles/360036534734 (I think it's in Dutch)

I've got the same build number as you have. I must admit, I also expected a bigger update....
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
Man, I thought it was going to be a profound update based on all the news buzz. Guess I should have known better. Probably paid 'advertising' for Fossil/Google.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
So now I'm a bit confused... are we supposed to track our workouts using the wellness app now, and disable any WearOS/Fit tracking? in the FAQ it says the Wellness version is designed to save battery, so logically you would not want to use it AND the other solutions in tandem. Curious....
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chefy2k4m:
Watch updated this morning. It's 4:24pm my watch always lasts all day. It's dead I didn't even realize. Going to charge and see if it stabilizes after a restart and charge. Honestly it took a long time for it to update. And it seems no different other than the wellness app and now faster battery drain.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
I hear some people say their watch lasts all day, but then you find out they had to make all sorts of sacrifices in the settings menu to achieve that. I did some of those as well, and still never get over 9-12 hours with no workout. Similar results all over Reddit, etc. You have a bunch of fanbois who have gimped their watch in the settings to get 'okayish' battery life, but it's never actually decent. Here are my sacrifices:

AOD - yes

Gestures - no

Wifi/BT - yes

Power - custom

If I'm jogging, it drains about 30-50% every hour. Hopefully the new Wellness app tracking will be much more reasonable on that front.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
I use the manual option for batter settings, I've disabled "ok Google" detection and NFC. For the rest, every option is switched on. Battery lasts about 16-17 hour before switching in battery save mode.

During running it's about 30% battery loss per hour, but without connection with my phone. So in the wearOS app on my phone I disable the connection with my watch (because the GPS from my watch is more accurate).

I use the app Endomondo to track my runnings, and sync it afterwards with Strava and Google fit.

Has anyone tested the new wellness app already during running?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
I never disconnect from my phone when running, but I lose about the same per hour. Seems excessive. Unfortunately I just mailed in my watch because of the charging rings peeling up so I won't be able to experience it for about 2 months.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
I need to disconnect it, because the GPS of my phone seems to be crappy. I did some tests with a specific round: GPS phone 6,2km, GPS watch 6,6km.

You also have problems with the charging ring? It's the same issue as the Gen4? I still don't have that problem (until now...). My watch is 11 months old now.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchw1971:
I got the Wear OS update about a weak ago. Battery performance is, if-anything, degraded. What annoys me most is the warning at 30% that it is switching to Extended mode ... why 30% and not, say, 10% ? I cannot find anywhere to change this neither on my watch or phone. Anyone found a ways to adjust this?

I miss my Hauwei Watch 2. Older 2100 chip but still better than this 3100 Fossil incarnation.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
I've been teetering on the edge of buying another watch to use while my gen5 is being repaired, since that is going to take 3 months. From what I can tell, the Oppo Watch or Fitbit Sense seem like the best, but neither are available yet. Them I can use my Fossil when I'm not working out, since that decimates the battery.

There just aren't that many reasonable options for us right now. Even if I consider galaxy watch 3, with the now-tiny battery, I'll have to use health sync to keep things lined up. Not sure how that will work with step tracking between multiple ecosystems. Normally phone and watch can ignore each other, but I have a feeling Google Fit will not ignore steps in real-time from GW3, and Samsung Health will not ignore steps from Fossil when I get it back. Maybe when the sync happens, each platform will be smart enough to toss out conflicting info.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dersie:
Now, Fossil Gen5 not bad. With last update, the new Health app can start Workout with good battery, the Sleep tracking is basic but not bad. I can use with Always ON 23/24H with the last hour before go to bed on charger. Stay between 30-40% before new charging. Charge is very fast and you can have +80% on 1H.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/195VGuRUNJ9WzgG_sdu_hsR05mSYsgZB0/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EVdP9Q918SFoaQMdg2aFktsng-mhoqsm/view
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
When you use the new, super basic, "battery-friendly" wellness app to track a workout, instead of Fit, does it still get imported? I would question the accuracy if they aren't polling as much as before.

That being said, anything less than 2 full days (48 hours of nonstop usage,) with no features disabled, is completely unacceptable for a watch. Since I enjoy AW as my main wearable OS, I know I'm shooting myself in the foot. I'm guessing Oppo will be my other watch. Just switch between the two.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dersie:
All tracking are sent to Google Fit, so you have Workout, daily steps and sleep tracking in Google Fit. And just see that SleepAsAndroid can view sleep stages that you can not see in Google Fit ????

All Smartwatch are 1 day (maybe 2 max) : Samsung, Wear, Apple... There are just simple tracker for more than 2 days (exept maybe Garmin/Fitbit). Other like all Amazfit or Huawei (No WearOS) are just tracker with alsmost 0 smart.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
Yeah the new Fitbit Sense says 6 days, so that's really interesting, especially with all the new sensors, and basically same smartwatch functionality as any other out there.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
During my last run I tracked with the new Wellness app and with Endomondo at the same time (disconnected my phone) and both results are comparable. In google fit I see the "normal" automatic detected run by Google fit, not from the Wellness app or Endomondo. That's strange. During the 50min run battery drained 30%.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
If you have automatic detection enabled in Google Fit, then you might not be receiving any of the battery benefits of using the wellness app. 30% seems about normal for the swatch with the stock software. Pretty atrocious. Hopefully if you disable the automatic tracking and only use the wellness app for a workout, the battery usage would be much lower.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] copenhagen:
Do you have sleep as android installed on the watch?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mightywhites29111971:
Have to say the new update with the Wellness app has vastly improved the battery life of the watch, I think it also shows that Sleep as Android was a real battery zapper. Normally I leave for work at 0630 and by the time I left work at roughly 1600 I would have to use my phone to track my ride. Now when I leave the watch usually has about 60% left. IMO it shows what can be done if the devs make a concerted effort!
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
Well I added the TicWatch Pro 3 GPS to my collection and I honestly can't see myself using the Fossil Gen 5 Carlyle much going forward. It's so much more snappier, with zero screen lag. This was especially bad when waking it up and needing to enter the pattern to unlock. Google Assistant was pretty much unusable on the old watch, while it's buttery-smooth on TWP3.

3+ days battery life, with 24/7 heartrate enabled, blood-oxygen, etc... every single feature enabled. Sleep tracking. If I was using it in the same exact manner as my Gen5, I would get 5+ days. It's a mind-boggling difference, for something that's faster and has way more features. Only downside is that I really do miss the rotating crown, even though I hated that it got accidentally triggered ALL THE TIME.

So I'll probably keep the Gen5 for my ocean/pool days, and use the TWP3 for normal days, workouts, etc.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] B@Zzz...:
That looks good. What are the extra options/features compared to the fossil?

I don't recognize the problems with the screen lag and GA.

The positive thing from my Fossil is still the look and feel of a traditional watch. That would prevent me buying the ticwatch.
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScrapMaker:
I don't see how the Fossil looks any more like a "traditional watch," than the TWP3. They are almost indistinguishable from each other.

As for features, I'd say that a key feature is 45-day battery life in Essential Mode, which still does sleep tracking, heartrate, and pedometer. Blood-oxygen tracking is also something that the Fossil cannot do. On the lag front, Every single time I've had to enter the pattern, I have to wait a few seconds after turning on the screen. I just did it again for fun to make sure I wasn't going crazy. If you push the crown and it needs the code and immediately start entering it, the screen will only be partially responsive and the code will fail. I've done this hundreds of times, with dozens of factory resets, and 2 separate watches (thanks to an RMA.) It's just a limitation of the code and the processor. I've definitely ran into other lag situations, but they are less noticeable.

All-in-all the best part about this thing is not having to disable ANY functionality to still get 3-days of WearOS battery life. I don't feel any battery anxiety when I raise my wrist to watch the indiglo light up the secondary LCD. It's very rewarding, and several people have asked me about it. Also I can see the time in the daylight. Something my Fossil had a hard time with.