[LG V35 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChazzMatt:
Well then we agree in a way. If you don't see he said that -- which I do and have quoted and bolded several times and you refuse to acknowledge -- then you AGREE he was not forced to flash Korean firmware and re-flash to NAO and lose data at both stages.

That's the point I'm making. And you agree with my point!

Look, I only try to help people. I've created tons of Guides, written instructions, answered questions. But part of helping people is also correcting misinformation. I don't want other users coming in, thinking they are also FORCED to jump through those hoops he did -- when what he did was highly experimental, somewhat dangerous, and completely unnecessary.

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* He wasn't forced to cross flash his AT&T V35 to Korean firmware to get Pie and in return lose his data, when Pie has now come to all models, as we knew it would.

* Nor was he then forced to cross flash to North American carrier unlocked when Pie finally became available there, again losing his data.

He blamed LG for all this, instead of himself.

He clearly said we shouldn't "have to do" all this. I merely clarified he wasn't forced to do anything. And some of what he did was due to impatience (flashing to Korean firmware), again not being forced to do it -- but because he WANTED to. Sure, we love to experiment here on XDA, but don't mischaracterize it or blame LG for lack of knowledge.

If that's not what he was saying (but clearly it is), then all he has to do is say, "I admit I was not forced to do anything."

Why don't you ask HIM to state that, instead of YOU saying he didn't say he was forced to do anything? His statement is very clear, but if I have misunderstood it, he can clarify. ;) He wrote, not you.

For the record, the Original Post DID reply and DEFENDED his statement he was forced to do this -- so I doubt he's going to post again and say he was mistaken. Which is why it's VERY strange YOU deny he said this, when he tacitly admits he did. His rebuttal was to try make it seem I was saying he shouldn't have bought the V35 -- which is not what I was saying at all, and I quickly refuted that -- but that was his defense, which was admission of his contention users were forced to do all this to get Pie update.

At least you agree with me he was NOT forced to take the series of actions he did. There was a BETTER way.

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If he didn't want to lose data at all, he should have researched this particular phone before buying. There is a WAY to not lose data at all.

Yes, if you buy LG AT&T model and you are not an AT&T customer, you are not going to receive updates. Everyone knows this or should if they RESEARCH here on XDA before buying. Sprint is the same with LG phones. Blame AT&T and Sprint, not LG for that policy. Over in the V30 thread, I've written STICKY Guide Instructions on this issue.

What he should have done is just flashed the North American carrier unlocked firmware when he FIRST got his phone -- if he wanted latest Oreo, then waited for that variant Pie and used "upgrade" in LGUP. No data loss whatsoever, and you easily upgrade to Pie also with no data loss.

Instead he kept it on AT&T firmware (not receiving updates), then cross flashed Korean firmware (completely different region) when it got Pie, he lost his data, then flashed the NAO firmware when it got Pie and AGAIN lost data -- and he COMPLAINED PUBLICLY we shouldn't have to do all this to get an update. We do NOT have (i.e. FORCED) to do ALL this to -- he chose to do it or didn't research options thoroughly.