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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
fine dont read and follow the guide to flash his root oem fix root v5

sheesh

here are some more details since you are new to note 9.

here an other zip that does partially what ketans does:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhXVLDDj8g3AgrxVEeICKZil9BIAUA?e=kpfiM9

it has no kernel nor magisk.

ketan has a kernel and magisk AND rmm state fix that should make device be able to boot while on custom recovery as the kernel needs to be patched in order to boot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Narkozzz:
Thank you for trying to help me, friend. But you misses the core thing - to flash anything mentioned in dr.ketan's guide I have to flash TWRP first. But I cant flash TWRP since I have RMM state prenormal mode alongside with unlocked bootloader. Even after reflash of stock rom. So the only question in my situation is: will RMM state change after 168 hours wait on Pie, or I need to flash Oreo rom first and wait. I am not new neither to Note9 unlocking, not to Samsung devices and have all needed tools to fix OEM and RMM issue AFTER I will get a chance to flash TWRP.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
flash stock. boot to home screen make it check for updates in the software menu once. check dev tool if OEM unlock is there. if it is a unlocked flash twrp. and boot directly to recovery after odin finishes. in recovery format data in wipe menu and type yes. go to reboot menu and choose reboot to recovery. flash ketans oem root fix v5 in aroma setup choose to flash kernel and magisk.

ive had your issue before. its not complicated. just do what i said if your oem unlock is there and unlocked. if its vanished and want it to appear then there are guides to make it appear instead of waiting.

also do you want oreo or pie? ketan has both. just read..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Narkozzz:
You are not listening: I flashed stock; I connected to WiFi; I do see OEM unlock enabled in Development Options; Still I have RMM state prenormal in Odin mode and cant flash TWRP.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
well if you dont try as i said of course youll never know.

again, i had your issue and alot of people as well. please use xda search feature and read. if not then dont post for help if you dont want help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bininga59:
I also have the problem, but with the S10.

OEM activation active, even reactivated in download mode, so OEM activation is gray. Even the trick with the 8 days did not help - it remains prenormal.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bininga59:
Hello, do you have a link for the manual?

Have been looking for a long time and geffen nothing.

Maybe I will continue with the instructions to get the "prenormal" away
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/root-note-9-n960f-fd-experimental-t3832143
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Axomx:
I am in the same situation, the rmm state prenormal still continues

even when I have the OEM unlocked, in fact I tried to do it through the chimera

program, but for having the June android security patch (CSF2)

the chimera friends commented to me that for that reason I could not do the

unlocking of rmm through their program, they told me that they worked on a

solution for it, but they did not give me an estimate of time, I guess we will

have to wait for a solution from them, since searching and reading most of the post,

none worked for me, I'm stuck in not being able to flash TRWP, so I can't really do anything.

I hope someone finds a solution or that through the chimera program, we can correct that problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Felix249:
I'm facing same problem on sm-a730f, the rmm state prenormal still active

even when I have the OEM unlocked
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] wagnerlucena:
Same problem here, i'm using a brazilian Samsung galaxy Note 9 N9600 retail version
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] ibrahimqureshae:
Same situation here i have galaxy s9 exynos
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] cstropz:
RMM state prenormal fix for non-US phones

[MENTION=8132601]bober10113[/MENTION] et al, specially non-US folks :)

I guess these guys are suffering the same as me, it is exactly like what [MENTION=3896530]Narkozzz[/MENTION] said. RMM state prenormal (even with OEM already unlocked!!!) won't allow for flashing one single thing other than official binaries e.g. TWRP without which we can do nothing (the fixes are only prevention, not remedying).

Skimming through Samsung international forums abroad and other websites I saw the solution consists in installing the SIM card, flashing stock with Odin again, and then keeping the cellphone, the simcard and the mobile data turned on constantly. Eventually after 7 days, on in some cases more than a month, that state will reset back and we will then be able to flash TWRP and the RMM bypass, plus noverity etc. etc. :)

Ketan also mentioned that in the comments in his topic, although he did not mention specifically about keeping the simcard together with mobile data enabled during all the time ;)

I'm about to flash mine now and wait with everything enabled, following that solution.

Will report back in here after a while ;)

Cheers!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] ELTURKO24PHONE:
active usb debugging and active oem, the same happens in note 9, waiting for your experience
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] BorepYano:
For what it's worth, I'm going to share what I've done; since it seems like I've somehow just stumbled through the same issue on my note 9, without having to wait any substantial amount of time. Hopefully it's of some use to someone.

I originally had N960FXXU3CSF9 (rooted with TWRP installed) on my Exynos Note 9; flashed stock N960FXXS3CSG5 using Odin, got about half way through the new device setting up process then black screen with "Only official released binaries are allowed to be flashed" message.

Me rambling about my fails

After the initial 30 minutes of panic and swearing, got the phone to download mode (Volume Down + Bixby, plug in USB from PC), then various combinations of trying to flash the same stock N960FXXS3CSG5 rom, TWRP, trying to install no-verity-opt-encrypt and Magisk-v18.0. The only change I noticed was RMM state sometimes seems to be stuck on "checking" instead of "Prenormal" while in download mode sometimes; either way, all ends with the same "Only official released binaries are allowed to be flashed" brick.

Last ditch attempt that worked for me:

(from RMM msg brick)

- Volume Down + Bixby, plug in USB from PC to Download mode

- Flashed the old N960FXXU3CSF9 stock rom with Odin;

- Turned phone off after 1st reboot after ^;

- Volume Down + Bixby, plug in USB from PC to Download mode

- Flashed twrp-3.2.3-0-crownlte_UNOFFICIAL.tar.md5

- Held down Volume Up + Bixby + Power before reboot from ^, to boot straight to TWRP recovery

- Transferred N960F_DS_N_PIE_Root_for_OEM_issue_devices_V5.zip & Magisk-v18.0.zip from PC to external SD card

- From TWRP, Wipe - Format Data - "yes"; after format is done, press back to first TWRP page

- Install N960F_DS_N_PIE_Root_for_OEM_issue_devices_V5.zip

- Install Magisk-v18.0.zip

- Wipe Dalvik Cache

- Reboot to System

More rambling

it then took a few minutes with boot img before "optimizing apps" (I assume this is code for Samsung black magic and murdering imaginary orphans?) then eventually I got to enter my details through the new device set up process... for the 10th time today. So far it's been about 6hrs since I've put all my apps back, in developer options OEM unlocking is off, but

I have root access back, and everything seems to be fine.

Sorry that I kept jumping between tenses and waffled on a bit there; it's been a long 20 hrs of reading forums, articles, hand cramps death gripping phone buttons and bashing head against desks. Hope this is useful to someone, I'm off to find 2 tin cans and some string.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] aaatso:
Need help for n9... Prenormal
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
so you finally read and followed dr.ketans root oem fix guide.

many people dont.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] BorepYano:
I'm sorry, I can't hear you; you'll have to speak into the can at the other end of this string.

... ....yeah pretty much. :o

After reading (skimming :o ) through dr.ketan's guide (twice, apparently i read it when I rooted the phone originally) I still only understand like.... 40% of it. TBH, if it wasn't for the fact that it obviously worked, I would still not be sure if it was a fix for after having caused the RMM issue already or something to prevent it.

definitely not poo-pooing all the work and details that goes into guides like Dr.Ketan's; but it's too long and too technical for the do-before-learning kind of "geniuses" to panic read after we break something expensive.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
lol. but its the difference between a soft brick and a working rooted phone. so in the end a bit of reading is worth it!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] minionhunter:
Just wanted to say thank you for posting the link. I tried searching a lot of different words for dr.ketan and could not pull up the thread you posted. Thank you.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] ELTURKO24PHONE:
thank you very much for everything, so far it worked, I have put custom rom, thank
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] cstropz:
Worked

Doing the below I had posted previously worked! I even had to force-reboot because gmaps froze during the week and even with that reboot the prenormal state vanished after the total 168h (1 week). Will try flashing in TWRP and the bypass.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
id like to add that to get prenomal to go back to checking if it's not already after a full flash back to stock, one needs to:

-flash full stock firmware, so flash all 4 or 5 md5 files in odin(use csc.md5 for CSC slot)

-boot to home screen and skip initial setup. If you have an FRP lock, the initial setup will force you to login to you account and not let you skip. once logged in, reset the device in the system/general management/reset/factory data reset option. device will reset and reboot. this time dont login to an account and skip through the initial device setup process.

-now for the prenomal state, go to system/software update then hit the top ' Download and Install' button, wait till it says device registered.(check attached images)

-now go to system/developer options, OEM unlock should be there and already activated and not grayed out.(if you have never enabled it, then now is the time. device will reboot and reset, please do the steps mentioned above before continuing with the rest below).,and wile you are there, active usb debugging(in dev. options)

so If its activated(OEM unlocked) then follow ketans guide and dont skip steps this time. also it is possible to substitute flashing N9_S9_Root_for_OEM_issue_devices_V5.zip(yes use method 1 in his guide) with dr. ketans pie rom instead or RMM fix zip

oem root fix guide: https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/root-note-9-n960f-fd-experimental-t3832143

Dr. ketans rom: https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/development/26-08-18-n960-dr-ketan-rom-jio-volte-t3834184

and latest RMM fix zip; https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79745844&postcount=627

inTthe scenarios above where you followed the guide(method 1) and are now flashing the oem root fix/rom after formatting data in twrp and having rebooted back to recovery, always choose to :

flash kernel and root with magisk(and choose the OEM fix of course) when asked during each's aroma setup.

(i had to flash back stock (latest) September 2019 pie firmware and using the methods described above, im back on twrp and custom rom under 23 minutes, rebooted multiple times, no 'binaries' error)

other note worthy links:

https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] munirshah77:
Did you manage to install TWRP recovery? I have the same issue. I flash stock firmware. OEM unlock is enabled but I have RMM state = prenormal in bootloader which prevents me from installing TWRP. I am using note 8 n950F with september security patch. Will flashing stock and turn sim, data and phone on for 168hrs help me get rid of prenormal? I am desperate here. Please reply.

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I had oem unlock enabled with rmm state=prenormal on setember security patch stock firmware .I flashed stock firmware latest. skip through setup and factory reset as per your guide and skip through the setup again. I checked for the update and rebooted t download mode to find out prenormal state still exits and I can't flash TWRP. Am I doing something wrong? Do I have to wait 7 days to get rid of prenormal state?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] cstropz:
Yes, prenormal vanished but I kept stock because of Google Pay

Yes, rmm prenormal vanished, and kg prenormal vanished too, >>after the 7 day waiting period<<. I did not try installing TWRP though, as I got Google Pay working again with NFC and I do not want to get rid of that service, which would be caused if I installed TWRP. September patch should be fine as this one was the stock patch level I flashed on mine ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jthibault27:
i get it

I completely understand and get what you're saying. I have an A8 530w. The model is not important what's important is the protocol. When I first got it a few months ago I was able to twrp on a pie version around April. Since some Canadian a lot of devices are snapdragon based. Which makes it impossible to mod. I guess my eagerness to get an exnyos chip disabled my due diligence on kg / rmm. When a custom rom I installed corrupted I thought I'll just flash stock firmware. My dad always said never update your binaries bootloader (canadian humor). Now I'm on V7 can go from July to December but in pie. Unlock Bootloader is a light switch with no effect it has been from the beginning. Samsung is now giving PTSD (prenormal that stays (on) device.

My question is simple were you able to downgrade to Oreo and what binary bootloader did you have in pie. Basically did you find a solution i'm actually on a hundred hours 168. Every solution I've read starts with flash TWRP. I'm not a coder and once I get through the door you can damn guarantee that I will initiate all protocols. If I could just find a stock firmware oreo or white not but I think my problem is the V7 bootloader. Simply asking if you had a solution to your situation..

you are not alone (if you are still blocked)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Narkozzz:
Well, currently I have 2 devices in pie-prenormal state that ignore every try for unlock. I tried relock/factory reset/reflash available firmware and wait 168+ hours - no effect. Now I know for sure why its happening, but dont know how to fix it. Prenormal PIE state applies when you update from OREO to PIE before 168 hour initial lag. If you can downgrade to OREO - things are simple - you do it and wait 168 hours. If you cant - I am out of options. Somebody said PIE prenormal fixes after a month of online, so I am going to give it a try since I have no options left.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jthibault27:
Are your devices warranty void 1 (0 x 0000)? if so it's (completely speculating) knoxed-guarded. I figure we have to bring it back to "warranty good" before we even think about prenormal.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Narkozzz:
Warranty Void flag means nothing in case of unlocking. Now I have already 4 phones without Warranty Void x 1 flag, but still in Prenormal state. Retailer thought it will be great idea to update all its phones to Pie without waiting for 168 hours. So now I dont know what to expect - will wait 2 weeks or more.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jthibault27:
As it stands now I have the option of flashing 4 stock firmware files which are all V7 9.0. I've dealt with Developers on the S8 and S8 plus which I have both have g955u g950u. I happen to be Canadian but these are Americans snapdragon chips with the encrypted bootloader. Root is not available but safestrap is which is a form of twrp. In order to get there I had to flash a 7.0 (nougat) combo file. There's got to be someone out there that can produce a transition rom emmulating official Samsung firmware, I don't care if it's kitkat. But just reboot without the pre normal in download mode. My OEM unlock is "true" or " bootloader is unlocked". The solution is Odin Flash. I can download all the Zips in the world they don't mean a thing since I can't flash them. I need a tar or an md5. Do any of the modified Odin's permit you to flash a bootloader 7 to a bootloader 6? I don't have enough knowledge to convert an extract and image file and repack. I even tried patching an entire AP v7 file with magisk (new feature). The process worked. But the flash didn't take. tried freezing the system file responsible for rmm com.samsung.android.rlc no luck. I guess prenormal is the new normal
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
this is a note 9 thread.

when you use magisk to patch a kernel (boot.img) its to be reflash after using adb on ure computer.

btw no note 9's are on rev 6 or 7...

also,if u have an international varian you can root.(n960f,n960n,n9600)

if u have a north americian model(canadian or US) its a fact to accept that u cant root.

prenormal issues: if ure on an intl. model flash latest stock and wait about 7 days for pre normal to change. then pls follow dr ketans guide next time to not get stuck again.(there might ways to get it to change before 7 days. i was able) by the way, kg state can be at "checking" to flash twrp, format data, reboot back to twrp flash rmm fix or dr ketans fix.(now included in his roms)

the secret is in the reading and searching. if something cant be found or if all signs point to the contrary of what you think, chances are its not possible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] jthibault27:
rmm prenormal

It seems you had the same back and forth with [MENTION=3896530]Narkozzz[/MENTION]. This is not about a North American Samsung Qualcomm Snapdragon chip. if you look post 33. You will see my download screenshot i have an exnios 7885 a530w. This is about getting advice on what to do if you can't flash TWRP. odin fails! The new prenormal security patch is preventing a lot of people from flashing TWRP. dr. keaton solutions starts after twrp. Whether you have a note, or an s8,9 j8 whatever etc. I believe that it's the same problem for all Samsung phones 9.0 2019 security patch. i don't know!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
been there done that

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=80453169&postcount=27

btw

binaries problem only happens to people that don't follow procedure... aka dont search and read.

if it were an insurmountable issue, everyone would have the problem and would never be able to flash custom roms.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] moonmoon8:
Mr bober

with due respect sorry to say that you are not understanding problem... :)

as Narkozzz and other members said its problem about new KnoxGuard with RMM state issue

now listen and understand:

you always refer to that mr katan guide which needs RMM STATE : CHECKING / COMPLETED

but the problem is this

RMM STATE : PRENORMAL

even after OEM option TurnON in setting

(Understand now???)

the issue is with Gatekeeper KnoxGuard not turn off in anyway to allow flash twrp (got it???)

also little intro about my self:

i m in mobile sodtware field since from 16Years

and know little bit better than normal people

Samsung New Security KnoxGuard GateKeeper RMM and Signed Signature Boots hard to penetrate into :(

but good news is still many loop holes available to crack security.

now come to this thread and phone actual issue:

in new phone security... samsung put 5different security checks

1st sboot

2nd param

3rd md5 crc

4th vendor

5th odm omc

short example:

if flash combination then sboot and param unlocked temporary with factory default signed files allow...

in this state you can flash patched system and boot but it will not boot phobe properly bcoz md5 hash mismatch error and system crash.

the possible solution is merge combination and official files with new security patches replaced by combinations factory security.

Hope this will light-up some new solutions

Regards

Mr. MahiL
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bober10113:
if this is a problem on anything other than an international note 9, then i have no issue with it and is not of my concern. I'm merely debating the possibilities concerning the note 9 as per the thread location and intial OP intent.

whatever OP had as an issue should have been fixed by following the guides. I myself have experienced it and was able to recover from it under 30 minutes.

so i guess the only difference is, in my case i figured the error of my ways and rectified it.

now for unrelated note 9 issues, aka other models,

the question should be:

why highjack this thread with any and all issues related to rmm state of other models? forums probably exist for these other models and would be much less of a waste of time if topic was discussed in the apropritate venue.

its like trying to return your snow tires at McDonald's, its just not the right place.

and again, countless international note 9 owners successfully root and use twrp and reflash latest firmware and re -root/twrp time after time and remain rooted and have no problem as their roms have the rmm fix or that they manually flash it before rebooting from twrp if they had wipe system. if note 9 root guidelines are followed, it should work. if it was really an insurmountable issue, we would have dozens and dozens of users reporting it.

what i do see is every week, the one or two newbies coming from older samsung phones thinking that back in the cf root days he was able to root and expect the same exact scenario to work on the note 9 and now realise something's wrong, they skipped some steps along the way and are now scared of having a brick because red writing can now be seen on the device screen...

what I don't get is not realizing one's mistake and continuing to not follow procedure properly and still expect a different outcome.

its verify familiar to the ones trying to downgrade firmware of a greater bootloader.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] Yeslam7:
Note: There are steps you can take to skip a 7-day wait in 3 minutes

1. Activate Developer settings

2. search and turn of automatic system update

3. Go to time settings and deactivate automatic time*

4. Turn back the day for more than 7 days. ( I have turned to the 10th Apri 2019)

5. Search for Software update -> Don't install update

6. Look if latest time searched for updates is the date which you have set. (for me 10th Apri 2019)

7. Reboot your device

8. go into the time settings and reactivate the automatic time

9. Search again for software update - > Still don't install

10. Go to Developer settings

11. deactivate OEM Unlock and reactivate

12. Go to download mode and you will don't see RMM state

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Note: There are steps you can take to skip a 7-day wait in 3 minutes

1. Activate Developer settings

2. search and turn of automatic system update

3. Go to time settings and deactivate automatic time*

4. Turn back the day for more than 7 days. ( I have turned to the 10th Apri 2019)

5. Search for Software update -> Don't install update

6. Look if latest time searched for updates is the date which you have set. (for me 10th Apri 2019)

7. Reboot your device

8. go into the time settings and reactivate the automatic time

9. Search again for software update - > Still don't install

10. Go to Developer settings

11. deactivate OEM Unlock and reactivate

12. Go to download mode and you will don't see RMM state