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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] acy7231:
Hi there,

My LG phone is unbranded and i follow all the steps below

1. Backup the NV2. I successfully manage to backup the NV2. The size is about 116KB.

2. Since my phone is unbranded i follow ibanezman guide flashing unbranded to unbranded.

3. Turn off my phone and put the phone in emergency mode. The green light was on.

4. Open LGMDP_euro.exe

5. In the Image Folder select the folder of the rom that i will flash. In this case i choose KS20 WM6.5.3 CE OS 5.2.23518 (Build 23518 FB)10E WWE Clean made by farahbolsey.

6. Select NONE instead of erase EFS.

7. Press start and it shows the flashing process started. But after 20secs i can see the word timed out follow by the picture below.

Can anyone tell me what went wrong? I follow the guide on unbranded to unbranded by ibanezman. I want to try the first method on branded to branded meaning flashing without putting the phone in emergency mode. But i was confuse at the column NV Default. Should i leave it blank or should i choose the NV2 backup that i create earlier? And in the NV Backup/Restore should i choose reset database & contents or erase EFS. I am stuck here cause i scared i will bricked my phone.

The flashing error i get

Stuck here
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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] IC3X4U:
NV2

Hi, I have the KS20 and I couldn't get any signal so I did a NV2 restore. I got my signal back but then I got the OTP block message again. I'm flashing it again and erasing EFS. Will this work?
[Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers] Babloo1989:
Can anyone suggest me a good stable daily driver pie based ROM for my Moto G4 plus Indian version with 2GB RAM and 16GB of storage.. please and Thanks in advance
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[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] krishelnino:
It's advertised as 4300 mah however most of the battery apps are reporting it as 4170 mah. I was curious and went into Settings ->About phone -> Battery information and there's a note mentioning something about 4170 mah. Is Samsung using false advertising ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] flak0:
Not false advertising, read the textView attachment 4810079
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] phaneeswar130:
I have a pixel 3xl and Google advertised the battery capacity as 3,430mah and all the battery apps are showing the same capacity. Whereas the note is advertised as 4300mah, while all battery apps are reporting as 4170mah.. So regardless of the explanation Samsung put in the settings, I think they are doing false advertisement imo!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] AceDaMack:
View attachment 4810265

Battery is actually great, I don't see why anyone would need the 45w charger.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] millab:
No you are missing the point - they are saying the average rated capacity is 4300mAh, but they are choosing to show it as 4170mAh for full disclosure. Other manufacturers are just quoting the average rated mAh, while Samsung are going further and also quoting their minimum rated mAh that can be expected.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Compusmurf:
Maybe it is a safety margin as you never want to fully deplete any lithium class battery. Protecting us from ourselves?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jemfalor:
battery never depleted nor charged to max
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Dvoraak:
I'm pretty sure the point here is that Samsung is using big bold numbers on it's own website claiming this is a 4300mah battery. If you have to look for the fine print to get to the lesser truth, it's false advertising.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
Since the s8 series, Samsung has limited the maximum charge at the hardware level to about 80%. You don't see it because the stock firmware hides it, displaying 100 instead of 80. However, if you flash another ROM or firmware which doesn't mask it you'll see it limited to 80%.

This is partly how they are getting "longer life" batteries while marketing the s8. Also, you cannot override this. It is a hard limit in the hardware itself.

Yes, it is a 4300mah battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Pearlblack24:
You're absolutely right. This looks very like false advertising. It was the same for the note 9 and the S10+. Whatever explanation they try to display, when you said 4300mah, it should be 4300mah.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
It is 4300mah. But only charged to about 80%. Its not false advertising you are getting what is advertised.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jjayzx:
Lol, that 80% was from if you rooted cause it had to use some sort of engineering kernel it locked it to 80%. I know as I had s8+ and was rooted and was there the whole ride. They assumed people wouldn't use it if battery charge was locked lower was the assumption.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
That 80% was because the rooted firmware did not mask it like the stock does. All the phones since the s8 limit to 80% in hardware that is how they achieved the longer life claims.

The fact the battery is being reported lower than 4300 is a dead give away they are limiting it to about 80% capacity.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] hayabusa1300cc:
Yup it's masked, I just checked against another app
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Mr. Orange 645:
80% of 4300 is 3440, not 4170.

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By the way it's not false advertising. Again, read the fine print. 4300 is the TYPICAL battery size. It says the typical battery size is the average of the battery sizes, and 4170 is the minimum. Means you're could be 4170. Could be 4300. Could be 4500. It's a manufacturing tolerance.

Let's say the average adult male is 5'9", so I tell you the typical adult male driver of any automobile is 5'9". Does that make me a liar when a guy 5'6" tall pulls up in a 1996 Chevy Lumina?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
If only battery capacities were measured in a linear fashion. They are not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Mr. Orange 645:
But I only think in a linear fashion.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] entropium:
I read through the replies. I see people say that 4300mAh is the average level, and 4170mAh is the lower boundary of some sort of confidence interval of the battery capacity. Then I am also unlucky since I see 4170 on my 10+ in third party apps. My question is that if too many people see the minimum numbers on their phones, stating that the average capacity is 4300 would be a false advertising.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] ST-Cyclone921R:
AccuBattery's estimated battery size fluctuates between 4202 and 4187mah on my note10+ so far. minimum of 4170mah is correct.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
No it would not be false advertising. You have a 4300mah battery in the phone. What a third party app says is irrelevant, they are incapable of testing the actual capacity of the battery. And as I said before, the battery is only being charged to ~80% which also throws off accuracy of these apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] MrPhilo:
It's 4300. If people are dumb enough to think Samsung would risk there reputation over false advertising of a battery size is beyond me.

Every battery has a 'min' and 'rated' on the battery. For Samsung it is 4170 / 4300, because you can't always get a perfect balance 4300mah in the battery capacity everytime. There is always a small difference.

If you watch Jerry Rig video you will always see battery size text. For example, OnePlus 7 Pro battery is advertised at 4000mah. But on the battery text it says 3900 min and 4000 rated etc.

Apps like Accubattery give a rough idea, but not fully accurate due to how the charger behaves depending on temperature and current. So it's always best to take it as grain of salt.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] TechSilver13:
So the phone itself actually says minimum rated is 4170. So don't act like you know it all. View attachment 4821161
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Mr. Orange 645:
Uhh...your screen shot says 4300. O.o

And what he said IS correct. It even says on your screen shot. 4300 is the TYPICAL battery capacity, but there are variances and manufacturing tolerances, so that capacity will vary from unit to unit. Samsung is disclosing that the minimum rated capacity is 4170. That doesn't mean that YOURS is 4170. That's the minimum RATED capacity for ALL the Note 10+ batteries.

I'm not sure why everyone is just refusing to read that part. Myself and others have pointed it out and explained it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] big_ipaq:
[IMG="Note 10+ battery label"]https://i.imgur.com/SLPxAqP.png[/IMG]

taken from:

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f7B9fBJJug[/YOUTUBE]

It clearly states:

Rated capacity: 4170 mAh

Typical capacity: 4300 mAh,
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Mr. Orange 645:
So there you go. It's not false advertising. Typical capacity is 4300. It's rated at 4170, since thats the minimum.

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Actually, it appears a little more complicated than we all thought. maH is not a measure of volume, like a cup of water. It's not like Samsung sold us 16oz of water, but only gave us 12oz.

maH is a measure of the batteries capacity to provide power over a certain amount of time (hence maH is milliamp Hours), but that varies based on certain circumstances, such as the voltage level of charge and discharge. Batteries and battery packs are rated at 3.7V, but USB is 5V. That changes the equation. It's the difference of 4,000 gallons of water flowing through a garden hose vs a fire hose. Same volume of water, but higher flow rate. So it offers a different capacity to provide a steady flow of water based on the size of the hose.

I wouldn't be lying if I said it typically takes 12 hours to use up 4,000 gallons of water, because thats how long it takes to flow through a garden hose. But if I connect it to a fire hose, it may only take 6 hours. (these are totally made up times, BTW).

So I could say 4,000 gallons of water will TYPICALLY provide 12 hours of water, then in fine print say the minimum rating is 6 hours, since I could hook it up to a fire hose. And it's not false advertising. Matter of fact, Samsung is disclosing that the minimum rating is lower than the typical, so they are doing the OPPOSITE of false advertising.

That's my understanding based on a couple articles. But one thing is for sure, battery capacity is NOT fixed, so it's hard to say it is definitely this capacity.

https://blog.banggood.com/the-secret-marketing-trick-behind-powerbank-capacity-29982.html

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/rated-capacity

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@MrPhilo I initially agreed Samsung would not be dumb enough to risk their reputation by lying about battery capacity, then I remembered Volkswagen getting fined a few years ago, because they were fudging the numbers in their tests to advertise a much higher average MPG than was actually achievable.

NOT saying Samsung is guilty of lying here... Quite the opposite actually... Just saying, don't be so naive as to thing big corporations won't bend the truth, skew the statistics, or outright lie to make a buck.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] viannaf:
So this is Samsung making is idiot's if they advertise the battery as 4300 that is the minimum I expected if they do otherwise they are stealing from us ... I had a Xiaomi poco phone 4000 mah and came with 4000 mah ... I got a Huawei phone with 4200 nah and came with 4500 mah ... so Samsung is the one who lies and send us faulty products making us of idiot's... considering returning my phone after that ... I am very angry ... this is absurd
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] lennie:
I see people in this thread overlooking this, clearly Samsung apologists, maybe because they like the phone and don't want to believe Samsung F'd up.

I get roughly 15 minutes idle for first 1% battery and roughly 6 to 8 hours on the 2nd % on this note 10 with my configuration. But with the same configuration I get 10 hours on the 1st % on my note 9.

Samsung F'd us on the battery in the note 10.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] SpideRMaN-17:
Settings > about > battery information
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
E.actly, people ranting about samsung misleading customers about 4300mAh, just do not understand how batteries are rated, not only by Samsung, but by ALL battery manufacturers, if, as they claim, they are very "clever' they should have noticed since long ago this in battery cases and powerbanks, they all advertise the rated capacity, if the battery is from a serious reputed brand, the put alongside the rated capacity, the minimun output capacitu and in some cases the % in efficiency, always around 65~75 %, the battery in the note 10+ beeing nominal 4300mah and yielding at least 4170mah, is in fact a VERY efficient battery with 90+ % of efficiency
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] EarlZ:
Since only 4170 is actually usable this means there should be no worry of battery wear if we charge the battery to 100% as technically its only ever charged to 80%, correct ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
No. Charging the battery will always strip it of life. It doesn't matter if you stop at 80% in truth it is better to leave it on the charger while full then to take it off just to charge it again in the morning.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] dugryce:
Really, I had heard just the opposite. I'd prefer to leave it plugged in, so I hope you're right.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] LogicEarth:
Most information out there on batteries is just myths with no actual testing or evidence. However,what is fact,the act of charging degrades the battery, to keep your battery for as long as possible you need to keep your charge cycles low. You don't want to go recharging a dozen times a day.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] MatroxD:
That has always been my thought and what Ice read and done. But this note is different, in that, honestly, it's the first device I literally can't drain with my normal usage. I have actually taken to turning on things that I don't even use, just so I can try and get it down to 20% at least by bedtime.

It's a new day with these devices, at least for me..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Cyrax-001:
The Note 10 Plus's battery life is really good, never had such an experience before when the best I could get was 6 Hours SOT in the Smartphones I used
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] lennie:
Well then it begs the question, what are the phones you've used before this? Because if the ones you've used has a processor that isn't as efficient as the sd855 and comes with an 3500mAH battery. Then coming to this phone would be like wow to you.

From what I see I draw the conclusion that it's kernel and processor efficiency we're seeing.

Samsung know they F'd us over that's why they put that battery disclaimer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Cyrax-001:
exactly, recent notes I used (Note 2,3,4,8) were all Exynos, so I can't compare that to a SD phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Nastrahl:
Are the 230 missing mAh in the stylus maybe?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
There is no "lost" battery capacity, the 4300 mAh is the designed and manufacture figure, again, 4170 mAh is the MINIMUN guaranteed capacity, this is the same with ALL batteries from all manufacturers, the actual battery capacity of this particular battery will be certainly at leasr 4170 mAh, but in fact, it will be close up or down to 4300 mAh, I remember the batt of my note 8, which was designed to 3300, and two apks reported it as 3470mAh
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jt1954:
Yes false advertising. You'll only know that if you know where to look in settings before you buy the phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
Wrong, you think it is false because you do not understand the batteries topic, and for that matter, most surely many others as well
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jt1954:
Ad hominem attack? LOL. Stay on topic. The ads CLEARLY state a 4300mAh battery. The average consumer would see that and wonder why 4170 is shown.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
Again, you don't get it? You really don't
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jt1954:
Right back at you...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] fulcrum1971:
If you are feeling so upset and cheated please feel free to sue Samsung and you are also free to sell your phone and get out of this forum. Personally I find the battery life to be awesome. Doesn't make a difference whether it's 4300 or 4170. It lasts me more than a day and it's good enough for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] SpideRMaN-17:
4300, 4170, bla bla bla, as it keeps giving me 10+ hours of scrren on time then I'm a happy note 10+ owner
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jemfalor:
i think the point is for the battery capacity to be at guaranteed 4300mAh instead of 4170mAh.

subjective statements like "i could use for 10 hours blah blah" are not really valid arguments and should be left out of the topic.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
"i think the point is for the battery capacity to be at guaranteed 4300mAh instead of 4170mAh."

I agree, that would have been better, specially for consumers with little of zero knowledge about batteries
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] SpideRMaN-17:
Why? Do you prefere a 6000mah battery that gives you 5 hrs scrren on time?

Google the difference between nominal capacity (in this case 4300mah) and minimum capacity (in this case 4170mah) of a battery test in a lab environment.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jt1954:
I feel neither upset nor cheated but thanks for the thought, SAII. Next...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
Exactly, "saii" rechargeable batteries of ALL types have been designed, manufactured, and advertised this way, some people here think, becase they in this case noticed it, that this a samsung-only practice, and particularly with this device, not all fabricants state the rated capacity, that is why unexperienced people think that ALL batteries they have seen, are of the advertised capacity, I have a ADATA 20000 mAh, and nowhere indicates the rated capacity, I have another ADATA powerbank, this one of 5000 mAh, but, this one does have the rated capacity printed also, which is 3750 mAh, I have seen these two numbers, or just one since the ni-cd(40 years ago), Ni-mh(25 yrs ago), li-ion and now li-po batteries, so, this is nothing new, and no, samsung is not fooling anyone with the advertised capacity, just confusing for people not knowing enough about rechargeable batteries "SAII", next
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jt1954:
LOL. "SAII", in the context that I used it, means (S)uch (A)s (I)t (I)s. Nice diatribe on battery information though.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
Yes, in what I wrote, "SAII" aludes to you, you are the "SAII" guy
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] jemfalor:
lmao. guaranteed 4300mAh has nothing to do with zero knowledge of batteries.

this topic has strayed way off with peeps with no sense of reasoning.

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4300mAh has nothing to do with 6000mAh.

there is no dichotomy here. lol. get your soiled pants off this topic. it stinks.

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when one needs to point out what guaranteed 4300mAh means. in this context, guaranteed minimum 4300mAh but not up to.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
Samsung NOWHWERE "guarantees' anything of the sort, just stated the battery being 4300 mAh, which in fact, is true, it is a 4300 mAh, by design and manufacture, get your stuff right, you are just evidencing your lack of understanding of things
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] lennie:
I can not agree with you. That number is not fact. It is marketing and that is why they have a disclaimer written in the OS and on the battery itself....Tantamount to the small print section on your warranty contract.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Limeybastard:
Repost , since Note 9 days..[emoji1787][emoji2957]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] lennie:
Your image doesn't show.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] viannaf:
Clearly Samsung lies and don't provide a 4300 battery shame ... My hauwei phone last twice the Samsung having as market 4200 but in fact I received a 4500 battery this is what a serious business company do offer 4300 and delivers that or more never less ... Never
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] mobile88:
Mine shows 4320 ???
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
You just don't get it, design, manufacture and typical(the lowest garanteed value) will never be the same, samsung advertises the designed and manufacture value, 4300, the real life value will always be different, some times lower, and sometimes even higher, mine shows in ampere and accubattery a value of 4420 mAh, so, should I complain? Obviously no, but the fact is, there is no false advertising whatsoever, if tests show a value in between 4120 and 4300, or more
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] viannaf:
That is why the minimum should be 4300

Since the merchandise and publicity about the product is saying the phone has a 4300 mAh anything less is fake and lies and false ... My phone has only 4267 mAh ... I feel robbed that Samsung don't put attention in the details this explain why they all need hauwei banned ... This is my p30 pro ... Look how it crush's Samsung with it's battery ... 4800 mAh health of 4200 promised ...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
So what? Move on, go get huawei devices, the vast majority here is more than happy with this device, if you dont get all the details regarding batteries, that is nobody'fault, or for that matter, concern, you just vented your frustration, well, then that's it, move along
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] Beetle84:
You know how your car might be advertised with a 2.0 litre motor, do you complain to people that the actual capacity might only be 1.992 litres? First World problems :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Questions & Answers] winol:
Lol, exactly, almost everything is advertised and presented this way, cars particularly, as being depicted in tech sheets with some hp number, but in fact, a dynamometer shows a lower number, the comtents of products announced to weigh x grams, and in fact, weighing less, or even more, well, there are a number of people with varied degrees of OCD, so, no explanation will never be enough for them