yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Okej new nightly results so far:

Where the hell is your office menu???? the office icon in the launcher of the home screen doesn't do anything here... no error... no menu...

Keyboard is once again ****ed here... settings can be applied in the keyboard mode, and the keypad using the settings screen. Qwerty does not work. When working keyboard and qwerty work (also correct language T9 on both) by keypad does not show (need a screenshot?)

And why do these keyboard have to be so big... the fill half the screen. (but the work great :))

hmm found something on the keypad... when opening the keypad, you can use a special key once, then i seems to transform into keyboard in the background, but leaves the keypad visuals intact (for 90%). strange behaviour.

Camera menu is nice. The fade-in delay with these menu's start to bug me... can this be removed for speed of work? Also when opening the menu i believe the focus is not set correctly. Sometimes i can use the d-pad to scroll through the menu, other times i cant... I think all menu's should also be controllable easily with the d-pad.

Time settings once again not maintained. Last time i though they were fine, but was connected with ActiveSync which automatically syncs time... Now tested it disconnected from laptop and time and date reverted back... Timezone is saved correctly... Maybe wrong order of saving these items? date-time-zone or zone-date-time? just a thought?

The new volume change screen... was it the intention to change all volume related screens with that? because the default sound thing in the taskbar still has the normal windows implementation of it...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] polac:
what the password of the zip?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
(Note To Self, Sleep Some More) If it's not there it will be Sorry, but i'm running a version that's not online. (Screen Below)

Haven't done anything to Keyboard yet at all. It worked in one build and then it stopped in another. It's on the List Trust Me (at least the NL Bug, i can't fix all the languages, BTW NL keyboard won't be in By Default, This is UC Option)I Believe Gullums last version has most fixes, he got from that thread (except for Landscape Keyboards)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=392197

I'll PM you the Configuration files needed to change the Animation Speed.

I will make a Better To Do List. And i Need a Manager that tells me which Things get priority. Time Zone is on My List.

The New Set Volume Set to Slider is made by Marc Landis over at Hacking and development.

He's got adding it to support tapping of Status icon on his To Do List.

He's hopefully taking a little well deserved break at the moment.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395695

There is a new Thread it's just not Here'.... But yes that would be best to have a new thread with a fixed position for To Do's and Fixed To Do's.

But Tonight i take a break.

My Current Set Up, I Call It All Wack.

I also tried to replace the 91 key in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys

(or rather add a key) but it did not work.

Who knows how to replace the StartMenu Press?

(just to have it around as a personal option)

Also starting testing Oldfashioned Cube Up Swipe to start Menu.

Downloading new Gullum Oem to be tried later on tonight.

Anoither Nightly wuth Cube Start at Swipe Up

http://rapidshare.com/files/129695409/RUU_Signed.zip

Very Beta a lot to fix up.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
Not around much

Hey People,

Sorry for menot being around much, got a lot of things on my head. (new job don't know if i like it... etc etc ).

But when i got back from a quick holiday in greece (crete) i was quit shocked that Bram has stopped. But Noonski, and Abr.... (sorry don't know your name by head) picked up (and has driven the development almost the whole thread) and i think that deserves A+ Respect.

The pictures, ideas and beta's i've seen are great. (yeah Noonksi your mass PM also didn't reached me so no irl testing)

I wanted to post a whole story but i forgot what i wanted to write :P But a few things i want to make clear as a team member.

I think production of the rom should not stop!

I think we should open a new thread so we can edit the 1st post

I think we should even consider changing the name to get no confusion (don't get me wrong it's no revange to Bram, as he and many other know's i have him very high.. he is one of the people that woke my interest in xda)

And i think a little peace on earth would be great, but that's an other disscussion ;).

But the point of this post is just to let some of you know i still do live..

Alright ... done writing .

Greetz,
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Jeeesus dude.... I thought you got kidnapped and probed by aliens
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
AMEN Reverend Re-Mi!!! :eek:

But agree with you on all your other points :)

btw noonski, where is the hidden dev thread???

btw Work day tomorrow and wednesday so no falsh tonight an tomorrow

*Havocnl loves part-time :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
That was me around 6000 years ago.

New Thread is voted for then.

Let me take a couple of Days for this.

And yes the Office Link Sucks.

But luckily not somehting to give me headaches
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi Remi welcome back.:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kar200:
hi guys,

can we get the password for the ZIP file or are we missing soemthing here?

I think the question has been asked a couple fo times but I could not find an answer to it.

The first beta I downloaded had no password in it but it seems this one has and everyone is avoiding the question.

Thank you.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hey re-mi.. welcome back :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
hi Noonski, what's the pagepool of this beta ROM ? I am trying to use the way of the following thread to change PP into 18M, but I can only find 1 instead of 2 hex stream which match with |03 15 A0 03 | 02 15 A0 13 | 00 10 83 E5 | DA C2 FF EB|, so I am not sure if this method can be applied in your beta ROM. Please advice. Thanks.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=397938
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I was able to change it for the ELF.

So the default PP for ELFIbn should be 12 MB.

But i can't confirm adress for ELFIN Ameet caN DOUGH.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i hunt for this in my rom after cooking ;) (without quotes)

"

03 15 A0 03 02 15 A0 13 00 10 83 E5 DA C2 FF EB

" and find 2 instances at start of the hex
[Touch GSM ROM Development] chihliouma:
My mistake. After re-try, I also can find 2 instead of 1. Now I know how to change the PP. Thanks.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] haarlem2004:
Hi, just downloaded the file, but can't open it (password).So it's not for everyone to try it? grtz :confused:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
So looks like we can both now edit the first post my Brother Ameet ;)

Congrats.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
OOPS!!! gonna take time adjusting to this promotion :D 2 seconds back i almost edited your post :o (clicked on edit by mistake and was wondering where the quotes were)

ya.. it just occured to me that now we can do the first post. but i'll let u handle that brother, since you are the chief chef of TS ROM ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
And yes i will keep on donating to XDA once in a while even dough I'm Mod.

And i suggest others to do the same once (At least until i have reached my 1000, Euro Goal) ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Now that surely is a very good message to everyone. Even I am going to do the same. In fact I have already sent in whatever I have received from the UCE ROMs and will keep sending more
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
*Havocnl stares and gasps at the power of the two mighty mods working on this ROM :eek: :eek: :D :D

Changed first Post. Let's keep this one open for a little while to discuss if the New Menu Lay out is good enough to keep working on.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
And forgive my NOOB mistakes, like editing your Post instead of Quoting it.

Changed first Post. Let's keep this one open for a little while to discuss if the New Menu Lay out is good enough to keep working on. :D

I personally believe this will really chage the way you experience how you use the device.

Now if only more Apps would be finger friendly.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
I feel violated.... :p My post privacy is gone ;) Ah your just a n00b :P

But ok lets keep this topic for a while ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Noonski and Ameet... Congrats on your promotion!

I just noticed that Noonski was promoted to Moderator and when I come all the way here into this thread, I discovered that Ameet is also promoted to Moderator now! WOW :)

Congratulations to both of you, bros..:D:D I will see you more around and I will behave... keke:p

Cheerio, Swiftblade
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i feel this is a good idea.. maybe later noonski can open a new thread and combine them both ;)

:D thanks brother. by the way, did u try ur own 0mb pagepool trick?

hey noonski.. i like the "Out of the Blue" part ;) i also made up those new UCE concept roms
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Writing Something Up as it is.

But we still do need to fill up the "Beautifully designed" part of the philosophy.

That is simply a task I'm not up to par with.

What was the last Touch Surface version on?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
piranha1 and pkoper re good in graphics :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I was hinting at Surface_ROM.

As he got Bram's Last Diamond Rom SYS and OEM packages, I'm wondering if there's stuff in there that i can base the skinning on.

I could just use the last Surface TSK file but i know that Bram was working on something new, and i hope it's somewhere, or gets donated.

very old Thread ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=236470

So in Keeping with my SPC naming Scheme (from the Beginning of Windows Mobile there's always been a bit of SPC in it)

I Dub Thee "Surface Production Crew"

List will be updated Accordingly in Time.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
congrats on becomin a mod. and yep! lookin forward for the SPC productions :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
oh!! rite :)

i'm sure bram has donated the diamond packs to surface _rom.. :)

SPC it is :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Jeezzz noonski how many projects do you have running for yourself?

You definitely need a project manager to guide you ;)

But Surface name remaining or are we going SPC? (don't mind that :) )

What's the idea?

P.S. I could also help in translations (English to Dutch) if you need help ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] ayyu3m:
woooohoooo, ur a mod too bro...congrats mate.

(Moderated by Noonski, unlawfull use of Moderator Powers, but only because We're all friends here)

Have you tested the Search Plug in in my Sig?

TNX for the TNX
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Damn did i post that about Needing A Project Manager?

Or did you read my Mind?

I only have one Project.

But i was indeed really thinking about a project manager.

Someone that doesn't cook and Flash like an idiot like some of us.

So Ameet you are out of the run for the position as you Have a cooking frenzy, even thought you have the experience for the job.

I always like Football Jargon like, Always position your players where they are performing best.

And mine is not sitting back and taking it easy, i'm a jumper i start doing and trying stuff.

My Desktop is like a nutty professors lab and sometimes i misplace an arm and i create a Frankenstein.

Someone that can give me a little Slap on the head some times but does not get Veto on decisions.

It's a lousy job with a very bad pay.

And you get to manage a bunch of Grown ups acting like kids doing all sorts of experiments that might someday blow up the world.

I don't know who's crazy enough to take on such responsibility.

At the moment i'm happy relaxing my head for a day.

Surface Rom is a Go It is Still Called The Surface.

It's just the grown up, prettier brother of the crazy, younger, experimenting Brother.

Hey can someone call me i can't find my Phone?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
:D lol.. honored to know atleast u thought of me for the job :D

dont wanna lose an arm n become one Frankenstein from the lab ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
So what do you think guy, now that we're taking a little break.

Should i continue and finish the New Menu?

Or stick with the classic one?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i vote for "finish the new menu" option

what say havoc?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
F#ck,,,, i only can quote :P .... it's a hard and cold world...

But i think the new menu has potentials, at least nobody can say it's not refreshing.. i think it's something people have to take the time and get used to it.. (as do i)

For me personal i'm a "ribbon" fan, just a slick ribbon in the lower part of the screen that has customizable shortcuts etc but that's all been done before (even if they are mem consuming)

So i say go for the new menu style, make slick drawing or at least let someone make a slick "complete" menu. (Make it multi touchflow like (i think you already described it somewhere))

Greetz.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Hmm if only i could find that font CStewart used for the Touch Part.

Slide the Touch a little to the left and also the Surface. (Just some Mock upps nothing Final or perfect)

BTW the menu can also be implented as a in the Home screen with Buttons.

But as there's enough Menu space in th Programs Tab in HTC Home.. i thought.

Honoustly i will give credit to the guy that made the software driving it.

Making the Menu Complete is something i'm braking my head over.

What goes where so it all fits logicly.

Finding the Icons is a not the hardest part, so any 32x32 PNG icons with transparency can do.

Well the first flash of the night and the last will be the original Surface.

Hmm nope not the Surface Rom i was looking for.

Gha first thing it did was stay Closed after flashing nearly gave me a heartattack. Pfew, that's been a while.

Going to take out some of Bram's graphics of his last Touch Rom and see if there's something to play with.

Because This is still the long awaited WM6.1 version of his Touch Dual Rom, see if i can evolve it a bit.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] surface_rom:
Hey noonski!

I think we must keep it in the style of the diamond surface rom, for consistency reasons.

Like, people recognise the roms by it style.

Since i have access to the surface kitchen ill post the graphics on the server in one oem pack.

i only must make myself a htc home graphic set in surface style.

Then i can skin up the new menu style of you noon!

if you can send me your menu package, i can start right away.b

now im going to sleep.

nightynight you guys, sleep well and dream about touching your touch. :p
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Okay so there are some graphics left over to play with.

That's exactly why i thought taking some of the Touch Dual style Graphics was the thing to go for. A lot of people where very anxious for a follow up.

I haven't seen the Diamond version so i didn't know what he changed since last.

The menu Package is in the Sys folder and is called OEM something.

Editing the menu's i can PM.

You don't need to skin the Menu.

It is skinned by the Theme.

As for the icons it will need a set of 40 Something.

I'll Upload a small package to the Working_Folder called Menu Skin you can see it's very basic but based on the HTCHome Background.

I tested it to be as compatible as possible with different Backdrops.

But you propably have read up on this thread.

Pfwew nice to hear i can Keep the Surface Rom the Surface Rom.

Because is specifcly want to make the Triple Darkness Rom as a separate one.

http://cdbaby.com/cd/krino15

Uploaded Files to edit and make new Menu's to FTP Working_Folder.

Theoreticly even changing a setting could be done with Submenu's but that's a life job of replacing the whole Windows Mobile Structure i'm not getting into.

This all depends on the creativity of others from the coming months and on how the concept is received.

So that's another vote for the Menu's then.

Can't use my door to draw on, some Astro Theologist. scribled some latin on it and some weird names like Shamash.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
I like the new style, and also functional in use, so not bothering me like some others....

I say go!

I smell a low memory home screen replacement? Or shall we not replace a perfectly working thing??

BTW great to hear that surface_rom is gonna help with the visual part ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well it's not that great a use as a Homescreen plug in.

And yes maybe replacing some of the Buttons on the Programs tab mean an extra tap, in overal apps should still be reached fairly fast.

Updated First Threads A Bit.

Ameet? can i use your old application post for the ToDo list?

Or maybe you can Add it yourself.

PM me about Mistakes.

(Still need to remove Catalog from Rom)(removed)

Yesyes And a new Nightly To...

Again trying something very simple That you rarely see, i just need to try this out.

I'm moving the Welcome Exe to second boot after the Autorun.

Who knows if this works it might clear out the Time Zone settings resetting:D

(didn't work, had to find out the hard way)

Nightly Coming up that allows Editing of Menu's
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
A Little Bump,..

Because there's a new Feature.

I'm really sorry for DotFred about this.

Since Pim.Vol holds all your Contact information and Calender.

I figure another .vol prolly holds your messages

Now Pim Back up is unmissable but if indeed Messages are in another .vol file.

Having PimBackup up is redundant with Mortscript in Rom.

Nothing genius about this script.

Basicly you have two script around 3kb.

ONE to copy PIM.Vol to a Back Up folder on SD (for those that don't know the easier UC Method)

Another one to take of ReadONly Atribute from Pim.vol in rom, Then rename it to Pim2.vol, then copies Pim.vol from Storage to Rom, Then copies another small 1k Scriptx to start Up folder, Waits for ten seconds, then resets the phone, Phone rebootes Executes ScriptX that deletes the old Pim2.vol and deletes itself from Start up.

Hey who needs proper Applications.

It's a lot faster as it does not have to compress and make a differently structured file. And all you need to do is press a button with your Finger instead of Stylus?

But i will keep PimBackup in rom as flashing to another rom then leaves you without this functionality. But who knows maybe Cooks and users start liking this method.

And maybe i'm a goofball again and Backup of messages isn't as easy as i'd wish it to be.

Request

Who's up for the challenge of creating a CommManager/Endkey replacement using the menu system Using

http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJVolubilis

??

Just for fun, as making it also Show the Off states Would reguire some Multiple Variations and some mortscript to rename them. (Heck VJVolubilis could be dropped completly, but that would mean a lot of Mortscript knowledge and digging)

So it's not an easy Job.

But it would also Prove that every function can be replaced Using the Menu. (Which it can Every thing can theoretically be replaced with New Menu)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Damn noonski you keep having these really great ideas (that keep changing everything ;)) Ever heard of a a feature-lock ;) maybe a good idea at some point (not now) for the ROM development to keep you in bounds and make sure we reach a final version sometimes.

But on the PIM Backup thing, I don't like your method because:

I have a really weird setup with my data of contacts/appointments/sms etc

I sync my contacts with outlook (auto) and my appointments also. But my appointments are synched from my outlook to my google calender (GooSync).

When I simply restore the appointments to my phone (which according to you are in the same file as the contacts) these will overwrite my outlook appointments (or change some id's) and my google calender doesn't seem to understand them.

So when flashing a new rom I use PIM Backup to restore my SMS/speeddails and i use outlook the restore my contacts and appointments.

Pfieuw that was a long explenation....

I'm going to bed... not feeling that well last couple of days... stomach problems... annoying... :(

Maybe gonna flash a new nightly tomorrow.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Points taken.

That's why i'm pointing out that i'm not going to make the CoMManager myself and it's not a PreReq for the Rom.

As for The Pim Backup up i also had some doubts in the matter of people accidentally overwriting their Pim with an Empty one.

Even thought Building in a Confirmation Dialog wouldn't be that hard.

It would need a script that would grab Date and Time To Name the Backup.

And then A Selection box for which Backup to put back, to make it perfect.

To advanced Script for me to build.

Pim Idea Placed in The Fridge.

Sleep well Hope you feel better.

Edit:

In the Mean time I solved the Date issue.

By Cheating, Windows Setup now runs AFTER Autorun Reboot.

Not Before.

In a normal world you setup Your device AFTER the setup has Completed.

Not before the Device goes on installing some more stuff then reboots again.

Very Small detail to some but big detail to me.

Guys who'ss run into the WMP not playing .3gp .avi or .mp4 files "Source Filter for this file could not be loaded"

Hope this has been solved somewhere.

I never play video and din't bother to fix this because i used TCPMP anyway.

But is this fixable?

Replace WMP Completly with the HTC Video Player?

Biggest Question who's seen info on this.

Working right now so i can't fully research.

This might be because of a conflict with new but htctouchp mentioned new camera was working.

Might be an easy one might be an hard one.

Bug found By Koala996
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Great to see this thing worked out! one bug down, more to go ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Replaced Total Commander with uncompressed version.

Stability VS Size.

Stability wins.

Just flashed

http://rapidshare.com/files/1167958...1.17.707.2G_4.1.13.46_02.97.90_GREEN_Ship.exe

To help out with

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=408637

Compared to a Stock rom with Ext_Rom we still have around 17 MB more Storage in the Rom Considering what's going in that's acceptable. And Program Memory is still around 1.8MB more then stock so also good (8mbPP)

Finished Testing 1.17 USPL

Back to latest Nightly. http://rapidshare.com/files/130772928/RUU_Signed.zip

This is the one that allows Changing of Menu's (not the hardware button Menu's though, unless your creative ;))

Also has Total Commander uncompressed and new Welcome Trick.

Initflash files copy a welcome.yes to welcome.not (this is so the welcome.not can be removed as it's a File that's copied during fileoperations in first boot and therefore can be deleted)

Then added delete command to the script that runs at second boot.

Then further on in the script that runs at second boot after deleting welcome.not there's a

RunWait( "\Windows\welcome.exe" )
[Touch GSM ROM Development] enriqueluis:
when will you have this final version?..can't wait
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well the WMP bug is taking me days to solve and still not solved.

Unless i include TCMPM, but that's cheating.