yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Introducing the slightly updated Surface Production Crew:

Chief rom development:

Noonski

Cooks:

1- Noonski

2- ababrekar

3- Koala996

4- Re-Mi

5- Pkoper

6- Piranha

Designers:

1- Noonski

2- Surface_Rom

Multilinguality:

1- HavocNl

2- Re-Mi(Dutch)

3- Noonski(Dutch)

4- Pkoper(German)

5- Koala996 (French)

6- Surface_Rom (Dutch)

Beta testers:

- ababrekar

- HavocNl

- Noonski

- Re-Mi

- Surface_Rom

- Koala996

- Many Others, and many thanks for that.

Server:

- Piranha1

Menu Developer:

- MORT (but not an official SPC Member, but still very important for his latest developments)

Marketing:

- Noonski

- You

Thanks To Bram Smulders for getting these Heads together.

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Touch Surface Filosophy:

Surface:

(n.) A magnitude that has length and breadth without thickness; superficies; as, a plane surface; a spherical surface.

(n.) The exterior part of anything that has length and breadth; one of the limits that bound a solid, esp. the upper face; superficies; the outside; as, the surface of the earth; the surface of a diamond; the surface of the body.

(v. t.) To give a surface to; especially, to cause to have a smooth or plain surface; to make smooth or plain.

The ROM is intended to be smooth, without crap, suitable for anyone and above all: Beautiful designed

We think, and probably most guys here, that a ROM on a device must be a fast, easy to use and not bloated ROM.

This are going be the main features of the surface RO.

To create a ROM that suits everybody, with enough possibility's to expand to the needs of the user.

A Surface is something that has substance, you can tell it's a Surface because it has detail you can see, and detail you can feel.

How you experience a Surface therefore comes from how you experience it.

And it will change the way you have experienced your ELF up until now.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Graphics/Screenshots:

The Logo:

Nice and big attention grabbing

TODO:

FIX WMP Bug http://www.sharemobile.ro/file.php?id=46803 (Fixed)

Check out Dutch Diamond Keypad Lay Out Bug.

Testing old t9 Dual Modelus.

Not all links are complete in Menu yet.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
List of apps/tweaks that will be included:

Os:

wm 6.1 from xperia x1, the one in the base folder on the server.

Apps:

All basic wm 6.1 apps minus:

- Welcome screen(because its gay and no-one uses it)

- Windows update(since 1,5 years of wm6 there has not been any update)

- Winzip(if we can break it out)(it's out)

- Help System (If your flashing your ROM these are not going to help you out in trouble)

- Cube removed Replaced Upwards Swipe with vijay555's VJBrisk to start new Menu

Plus:

- Opera 9.5, newest build from diamond (with customised graphics) (Thanks to Phouki)

- Youtube client (XDA version, Diamond version does not work in QVGA... yet)

- Adobe Flash lite(2.1 A lot of old movies do not run in 3.0)

- Adobe Reader

- Batterystatus (2x with Surface Skin, so Surface Skin is retained if BTStatus is updated)

- Java client (Must be oemmed)

- ArcSof MMS 4.2.8.1 (Your Right It's Not The Latest Version, there must be a reason for that)

- Office 6.1 (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, TiffViewer)

- Pim Backup 2

- Pocket rar

- Screen capture

- Total_Commander 2.5

- NetCF 2.0 (Untill apps get updated and support 3.5)

- Advance config 2.1 (Latest XML file)

- Bleutooth FTP

- WM5Torage

- Remote Desktop WM6.1

- Sim Manager Version (????)

- Windows Live Messenger (10.6.34.800)

- SRS WOW - Plugged or Unplugged Headset + advanced Settings

What's Exlusive

- Unamed Menu System (There is a name)

- TS_ActionScreen (A.K.A. "New Menu", Nope not the one you are used to)

- TS_Long_Press_Power Menu

- TS_Long_Press_Send Menu (A.K.A. "Connect To Menu")

- TS_Camera_Menu (Choose What Camera Does before Starting it or Close it if you have accidentally Pressed that Damned Button Again)

- TS_Shellres(New Version of previous Surface Shell)

- TS_Regtweaks(on server, if you like to add something, do it, but post on the thread is you've changed something)

- TS_FAKE_Extended_ROM (UC Compliant with MortScript Support)

- Windows Media Player (Surface Edition)

- HTC_Random access (Surface Edition)

- HTC_Endkey (Surface Edition)

- HTC_Album (On server, Noonski's Corrected Version)

- HTC_Horizontal 6 Button CommManager (Surface Edition)

- HTC MP3 Trimmer (Surface Edition)

- HTC_Streaming Media (Surface Edition)

- Set Volume 0.40.3b (Surface Edition)

Yup All this fits in the Space a Stock ROM would fit, and it's faster to.

Not to mention the free included Refrigerator Magnets
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hi bram.. Consider me for the below position :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] tabi13:
Congratulations on having such high spirits and welcome back...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] carpintero:
OKEY bram welcom back of welkom terug wacht rustig af wat je voor een moois gaat maken voor ons:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
hi bram

i would also LOVE to apply as a cook. but i'm not as much experienced as u or ameet, started cooking only 2-3 weeks ago so if there is no 3rd person available for the post, count me in.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] kproj:
I could provide the graphics if you're interested. Although what are you looking for? Redesigned icons/dialer/start screen/etc?

I'd totally want to create a white manila theme for everything.

As for Idea's

I would love to see someone implement the actual Diamond Dialer instead of using a memory intensive DxC theme. I've seen in a couple videos of the diamond that it has a fullscreen similar to S2U2 to answer or ignore. If you get that going I say you're gravy!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Trekvogel:
Good to see you're back. you're right that not much has changed. Unfortunately I'm not very good with graphics or WM so I can't be of much help in that direction. I can give you my suggestions and hope they are of use.

First one is to make a rom in Diamond style, it's a beautiful style. My second suggestion would be to use iContact (maybe skinned). It's fast and very useful. Since 0.7 it's especially very nice.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] aditya_g8:
I would like

Can we have a decent GUI with very less ram occupied and Very less memory leak.

I would like flv playback component in WMplayer if possible, or tcpmp player inbuilt

I would like htc audio booster plugin working

I would like htc streaming media player, I think is has flv playback capabilities

Graphics if we could impliment pointui as the base gui!!!

Sorry for the noobish sugesstions, but M totally unaware of wats possible and wats not possible
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
:DThe King is back:D

I unfortunately don't know anything about rom making....

All I know is what I like, and I am quit picky at that!

I would like to apply for the role of thread follower ;)

And perhaps of beta tester. I just outfitted my old SonyEricson with my normal number and the Touch with a prepaid backup number. So testing on the touch can commence :D

Maarten van Lijden (Just call me Havocnl)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] aharjono:
Bram,

It's great to have you back, while you're inactive, only PDAMobiz and PDAViet ROMs are regularly updated. Cloudyfa and Swiftblade are also seemed occupied.

Anyway, since you all been inactive, I've been playing around with PDAMobiz and PDAViet ROMs, in their latest version both use ROM based from HTC Diamond.

Personally I like PDAViet ROM,why ?

Performance : it's stable and quite fast, consume less memory than Mobiz

Graphics: all original HTC and Windows Mobile splash screen, the default background is black.

Software : it includes all basic necessary items.

Negative points:

- Space bar problem when using Zoomboard or PCM Keyboard

- Battery drains fast

So suggestion for your new ROM:

- as minimum as possible of program memory, and it should be use to install most useful program, for instance PCM Keyboard/

- Graphics: we should maintain the original splash screen, default background should also be black.

:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Hi havocnl!!

the king? thelost saviour you should say:P;):D

youre applied
[Touch GSM ROM Development] jackolus:
my little suggestion:

now on top are roms with georgious look ( but it's standard for you bram :D ) and with no-cube replacing features...

all for gaining more ram - if you can do sth for constantly go over 17mb, you're godlike :rolleyes:

of course we're talking about stadard elf, "elfiners" are step further :P

regards
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Grondinm:
hey hey. I have a CDMA Touch (vogue) i am willing to help beta test your roms or anything else. let me know
[Touch GSM ROM Development] david.devroey@skynet.be:
Touch surface

Maybe you can start by making your touch surface on wm6.1?

I'm using your surface rom now for as long as I have my touch. Tried many other but al seem to lack some functionality (like dutch xt9).

Welcome back, by the way.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Mr. Vi:
Hi bram!

I'd like to apply as betatester and artist :D Next week I've many many exams at school, so I'll be busy. But afterwards I'd like to support you :)

What about a real clean and fast rom?

and did someone here something from xtrinity and his memory manager? I think if an app like this exists, we should get it for our elfs!

Greetings, Vi
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
Bram,

Offcourse i would like to continue where your took off as a tester of your roms ;)

And in the mean time i picked up some thing or 2 about cooking and currently running my own rom for some weeks now (based on *cough* surface *cough*). I had a lot of help from Noonski, Pkoper and Pirhana.

Unfortunately i have verry litte time on my hands for now to help you out fulltime (starting new job monday), but in a later stadium i'm willing to help with some cooking if the offers still stands by then ;)

But i suggest to drop a line with Pkoper or Noonski for some startup again.

BTW how are your 2 girls doing ?

Greetz,
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Hi ReMi.... nice to see you around again... and of course Bram, finally your back here... my dutch roms just didn't cut it and I won't have much time in the near future play around due to similar personal reasons
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mcdull:
Widcomm is a full feature BT stack in compare with M$.

supported profiles is avrp,a2dp,obex,sap,handset.bt dun,pan,serial.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=355448
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
its version 291.works fine without probs.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Zwanace:
i would enjoy the touch diamond keyboard/black dialpad to be included in the rom. I think it would give it a nice look.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] holodila:
Yeah, and it would be nice if the keyboard would be language customizable.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
The keyboard that will be implemented is the original htc keyboard, with all languages we can find!

gr bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Timminater:
can you include moBlue in your rom as default bleutooth handling ?

as moblue can actually receive files on memory card and sort files out by extention and move them to the correct folders.

windows mobile bluetooth receives all files on internal storage, and because internal storage is already very low on the HTC Touch receiving bluetooth files on internal storage isn't very handy.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Can't this be changed by a simple registry edit?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Also heard a lot of good things regarding the widcomm stack.

Widcomm and MS are the two most used stacks, and believe widcomm had even more compatibility, am i right???

But.... i thought an official widcomm stack would be not free (read very expensive)??

Would be cool to have a superior bluetooth implementation/stack in this rom if possible....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
So no one ever had memory problems using the Dual Keyboard on ELF?

The Diamond Keyboard is acting pretty good on my Wizard (Crappy Diamond build BTW)

?

I just got a new Sata Disc Going to reinstall my OS tonight
[Touch GSM ROM Development] LeoArg:
Hi

What is "surface ROM"?

Please, I wanna screenshots
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I removed all Mock up testing Screenshots i did because no one knows what it's going to look like ;)

In the mean time.

Here's the latest and greatest BT States OEM with Minor Surface Adjustments.

Also added a cab file.

Will change more icons and stuff

And also removed them again.

I call it new age marketing.

It was just an early version and this was an easy way to download them at home ;)

So Bram have you any graphics to tickle my inspiration bone?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] whistler-nl:
My Touch Diamond has been send so i will have it tomorrow if all goes well but i'm still hoping the next build of the Surface firmware will be as good as the previous versions as the firmware i'm running on my Touch now has major flaws.

Keep up the good work.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] vetvito:
a lot of progress I see

Check the sig, Titan
[Touch GSM ROM Development] meddleuk:
Hope you don't mind me asking, I'm not impatient just curious. Do you guys have any estimate of when this rom will be ready to go public. Keep up the good work!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] savale:
Good to see, you're back Bram, hope you can use the money I send you! Good luck guys building the ultimate ROM
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
NICE JOB.:D:D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] @rj*n:
Diamond vs Cootek

hey bram can u look at

Cootek Keyboard

as option instead of

diamond keyboard

:confused: as i feel it is more easier to use than the diamond keyboard?? just my thought.. hope u'll look into it:D

site: http://www.cootek.com/ (freeware edition:cool:)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cstewart:
No, I would say a better option. I am pretty sure Noonski knows this product too!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
It is a better option yes.

But HTC Diamond is a bit better then the DUAL version and we can add more languages which isn't possible using Cooteks version.

And Cootek doesn't allow for redistribution unfortunately.

Besides Bram Posted e few back which it was going to be.

If some have you know the story of S2P which had to stop the thread and development as it was using non Open Source Code.

You know how important it is to respect others intelectual blahblah.

(but Playing with HTC Apps is Allowed??)

BTW Release Data is in Three Months or maybe Six.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I meant the Welcome wizard
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
:D oh.. :D i'll try to find out about it ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
i disabled it in SPC 6.09 and either cooking in the Touchscreen settings or using UC was not the most user friendly solution.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] :
SPL Integrated into the ROM

How about including CID for idiot like me, one step process?

Like Blue Elves, which CID Unlocking is integrated into this ROM update utility.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] abhishek.vij:
some of us have already CID unlocked our devices permanently.. so those who want to unlock can use the USPL..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
What he means is the JumpSPL method.

It doesn't touch the SPL.

And it's not hard to change the commands from that one.

Or maybe we can suply dual folders where you place the rom into the folder of your favourite flashing method like the WM5SE Fereira Rom.

I bought coffee and i'm sleeping early to make an early start tomorow.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
:D Its Party time in Dutch :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Tankx i did.

Now running WM6.1 Without any changes Kaiser SYS with some replaced Files for Modules.

It's original nothing disabled (accept AutoUpdate)

And ffree memory on my elf 8MB pp is 25.90 Steady as a rock.

Very Promising since i haven't done this in a while.

Going to Play with Ameet's Xperia Core later.

Now With Cube in Memory 23.4 still nice.

Storage memory specs aren't important yet.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sala91:
Hello.

I find this project rather intresting, kudos and good luck in youre work.

I am using the official rom as its well, am without these third party stuff and it just works. Or so i thought. I havent installed almoust anything to this phone thou it says my memory is low (indeed, the memory has only 320kb left, not the ram ofcorse). So i would realy love you to renember, that best rom is what has evrything that is nessesery and nothing more. I realy dont like the batterystatus for anything else than overclock, i realy love the stock close stuff (you close the windows with X, tap it longer to close the program and switch it on home screen), dialer pad that comes stock and the dimonds keyboard (thou after reboot i must reseleckt it, its a shame). It would be great if you updated the icons regarding to Windows Vista GUI guidlines :)

Just my two cents. Also looking for slim rom for my phone (all i need is java emulator, office, zip... oh whell just the standard programs i get with official fimmware). Can anyone explain my why official fimmware is so BIG?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well if it is a stock rom you lose space to Ext Rom, which is removed in most Custom Roms.

Dinner now.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] guitarguy:
I know this is a little OT, but try to find a program called SIPCHANGE, it'll reselect the diamond keyboard after a soft reset, works well...

Google it, it's somewhere on this forum...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Funny The diamond keyboard cooked into my wizard is always on as default. Without SIP change. I remembers this happening to Dual Keyboard tho.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sala91:
Also, can you make shure that HTC Dimond keyboard has estonian languge support? (öäüõ)

And onenote mobile support there?

BTW: Found some nice costum fimmware, wonder if it works for me?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=397101
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi Sala look here.http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2302936&postcount=73
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Hey that's Piranha's and Pkopers Rom.

Nice and black.

ScoobyDooby Doo Where are you?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
YouWhat?

Busy playing Teeter on my new Touch Diamond:P

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
We lost another victom to the Diamond Virus.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
No you didnt Lose me, im still committed to this thread.

I think im not gonna cook for the diamond, becouse in my opinion its the ultimate device, even with a stock rom.

Htc finnally puts his **** together, and released this gret phone!

So my touch is only for flash purposes now!

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well I'm going for The Rapheal in August.

Well i made a first clean new base and the memory was doing great.

I then removed SQM and customer experience and and i'm now left with less memory frigin weird huh.

So good thing to retest later on.

I'm doing nothin extreme here not removing a lot.

I'll be uploading an unskinned version hopefully tonight that you can place in the server, if it's up again.

Still wondering what graphical ideas you have.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
great idea. i think i got a few cosmetic to work in the control panel with higher resolution icons (without any bugs right now) see the screenshots

hey bram. is the server up yet? there was a login problem i think i was not alone :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I was thinking about implementing Long pres and short press tricks for call key and power key.

Like long press call brings up commmanager.

Short press Power brings up PxShut XP

Long press calls mortscript that closes all apps and turns off screen.

Or the other way around.

(i think i can find that script)

(reset is in Batterys status X button screen)

Nice... added Mort script to reasign buttons. Very handy. But have to check the mortscript filehandling not being cooked correctly.

Working like a charm see the attachment with OEM package with MortScript and the Assign LongPress Script for Call, End, Power keys.

Cab installs then script to "Start >> Settings >> System"

Now testing new version with Push To Talk removed as Touch does not have that.

Script courtesy of

v3patel

If this doesn't convince Bram to cook in MortScript at less then 100k ;)

Now Some other cool scripts can be suggested.

For instance one to disable or enable Threaded SMS. Etc.

But i'm not going to learn Mort at the moment.

In general I now finally am a bit more happy with the lack of hardware buttons and easy config.

Edit: replaced OEM package with one without push to talk option.

Yes i'm cooking dammit.

Also been Checking Gullu'ms Keyboard for Diamond.

And maybe cooking mass amount of languages is a bit over done.

He made the base in a way that aditional labguages can be added using UC.

This will help slim the Rom down as basic Keyboard is 2.4 MB and full is 5.4MB

And besides we can't possibly skin all languages.

It's your call Bram 3 MB is a lot.

Also it's still unclear if you want Cube in it?

Ameet did you have that Xperia Ported XIP?

One with hd.dll & osaxst0.dll

And one Without hd.dll & osaxst0.dll

I'm online yes uploading the kitchen 45 min to go.

Everything i changed in rom has a counterpart to restore it in the kitchen.

I always like to start from scratch on new ROM from a clean, so there's still a lot to be done.

Just finished Iron Man next up Kung Fu Panda.

http://rapidshare.de/files/39731012/Kitchen.zip.html

Yes it's got a password so don't waste your time.

It's the Surface Password.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
So its not just me with the server....

Going for the Raphael too when it comes out.

Once we have a rough idea on how it will look like, piranha and I could start with the german side of things.

Is there an apps list by the way???
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Jup first two threads.

It has no cube ;)

I did made a new HTC background that can go on different Backdrops.

Also have some recolourised HTC home icons (original)

And i now i like my HTCHome Icons, but they are not good enough and not easy to recognize (thant's why i like them.

I saw A very slick Poorly Duck WMP skin i would like to Brush with some greens.

But i'm waiting with skinning untill there's Main Backdrop/tsk from Bram.

In the mean time i need to find some new Cabs and OEM (not the hard part)

In the mean time i'm just happy my Longpress Endkey is working alolong with the configuration script for it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] howimboe:
Langages

I was wondering if any french version will be available?

Actually if it's not to hard to do, i'll be glad to help to translate the rom in french, if noone has already applied for it :p

Btw, nice to see that you're all team up for this rom project...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Yes. No cube i hate the fuc.... Thing.;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Hi Yall

noonski, what you did with mortscript is great and well certainly gonna use it!

tonight with the pleasure of a nice cold beer and soccer im gonna make the skin type for our surface rom.

gr. b
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Ameet i found the XIP no need to Upload.

(at work)

Make that two Cold beers.

Been playing around a bit more.

This way i at least have a brand new WMP skin for Myself ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
coolio :D u got the base rom from my rapidshare folder? i managed to use 16.8 mil color icons in the settings dialogs without any problems.. check the screenshots here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2304381&postcount=220

i'll b using some good looking icons in my next cook, these were only for testing but i kept them ;)