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[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
I have been watching this indexing of the music by the Samsung Music app, very closely.

It returned both positive quantities and negatives so far.

I consider this to be one of the best sets of native apps of any phone so far, but the music app being the only AOD enablable app for lockscreen music has me baffled and disappointed. Though not entirely.

On one hand it is really blows it in that it has taken over 6 hours so far and only 3 of 8 of my newly added folders have been loaded.

Additionally it misses the ball on SEVERAL of the artwork configurations which VLC (not supported in AOD) picks up easily.

First the pro column, it looks good in album view and scrolls real smooth, without using 7 GB for APP Data (which is what vlc takes to run my music collection) (where is it storing the data? is my question here); refer to screenshots 1, 3 &4 &8.

However, there is a small number of album arts missing, and more than expected albums in the 'Unknown Album' position of the 'U's in the alphabet. Which indicates to me that there could be some id tag misrecognition or unrecognition someplaces;

refer to screenshot 15 &16.

Finally the Samsung native music app sees the artwork as different in albums where different songs have different artworks, but only in instances where those arts and songs are nested in separate folders. Such as my version of the Pulp Fiction soundtrack.

In cases where the artworks were embedded separately in the songs of a compilation to show their original album arts, which is how I did the Word Of Mouth compilation, (which I also screenshotted here from the Samsung file manager which displays that in the file manager we can see the individually embedded songs embedded arts in its little file manager thumbnail) there is no individually embedded artwork recognition in the AOD enabled samsung music app. The lockscreen displays show that VLC will have these Word Of Mouth albun arts as different.

Seen in the remaining screenshots:
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] James.Miller:
It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
I am of course speaking of the following always on display as seen in the following screenshot

(though I haven't tried those other apps) ...and not the screenshots in my prior post which are lockscreen shots.

Meanwhile after a decharge today from 100% down to now 44%, it has still not indexed my music files completely as at least one folder is still not seen atop the latest folders list. Most of them just showed up in the last hour or two though. About 24 hours so far since it started.

Presumably it must be storing all these artworks in the system, they are all there as I scroll the lists.

As my sd isn't formatted to the phone but only external.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] MartinMKR:
Man, just buy a better sd card and dont blame the phone for this or atleast try to format this one and try again.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
Man. Maaaaan haha. Don't tell people what to do. Aggression indicated stupidity thats just stupid you know. Literally. Loser. I bet you don't even keep any music on your phone. Probably using Spotify. Not me I'm from a different generation. We used to buy physical copies of our music albums, and carry them around with us. The music then was better too.

The phone must be using some sort of sdcard block by block scan eh. It still finding items on the thing. Not exactly a normal method to find files. I'm guessing it locates the head folder, but in my case it's a complex tree.

So if it is the sdcard being 500 GB card. That's a pretty good sized card anyway.

But it is still finding stuff screenshotted it then left it over night (after charge and restart) and it added some 10 more albums or so to the list.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] BigD18t:
It's not about size of card, but read/write speed, the slower the card the longer it takes for the phone to update the album arts.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] HKShooter:
I have no problem with this app. I have 6 GB music files in my SD card and it loads all albums and album arts immediately when I open the app. My SD card is Samsung Evo+ 128GB.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
Slowly now. Latest rate appears to be finding about 1/hr. Samsung card. Singly written. Couple months old. EVO.

Also it is really fast to load those arts once it finds the absolute block in the SD cards file system.. VLC has always been ultra slow at loading all the music. If one were to attempt to enter an artist heading in VLC or album heading, it could take minutes to resolve the artist or album.

This app has its negative points, but it also has its positive points. I am not here to criticize the app. I am here making a point to observe it. Really pleased with the Samsung apps as I said in the op. The keyboard and the file manager I especially like. The points where the music app slips in finding some arts are probably gonna be repairable by changing out the few non functional music files on a case by case basis.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
Seriously fast app for loading the musics and arts. real time jump anywhere in the list by track or albun. Very pleased.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
VLC vs Samsung data usage stat for 300 GB of music. this app is like a window to my SD card.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] goldenguy43:
Samsung s native music app is trash honestly.

I would recommend a alternative like vinyl player or black player.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
Not pleased again. Used Smart Switch to do a phone backup, took out the sd card, put back in, restored the backup, and now it is re-indexing the music again. So once again my latest added folders are not here. Once again can't listen to my newest adds like Madonna's GHV2 for example, if I wanted to (with the Samsung music app, at least). Which blows.

I thought once it built its music index it would store it in the permanent. now back to square 1.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] James.Miller:
I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
That's cool. is that a sharable playlist or what? I can't say as I've heard of that one how does it work? You pay a subscription fee or what?

I have purchased a few albuns off of Google play store but I don't like the feeling of staying connected to the internet. So I can't rely on the internet.

Really ridiculous this app is slowly reloading those folders again. This all started cause I heard from the Samsung store that they could replace my carrier version of the software with something from Samsung. Which they then failed to do. Not something I would do very often.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] kruc Ire:
Massive deceleration curve for this indexing thing. Been screenshotting the progress over the past several hours. The window over thr albums holds it's viewpoint above the list. Say it was started in the 4th quarter of the Alphabet (by albun population) at album number 1200, after 400 albums are added it enters the third quarter by going through first the T's backwards from Tzolkin Date to T Rex.Then on into the S's rising towards the top but staying at a viewpoint of album #1200 in the list, which now would have over 1600

While the population happens over a graph of time on the x axis. The y axis charts the speed of albums added. The curve is hyperbolic deceleration over time.

Last time the indexing was being completed, I saw a few albums still being added. (before the restart happened today).

Between 5 or 1 (guestimated but def. odd numbered amount) entries appeared sometime after noon today as shown in the following two screenshots. Seen by the shift of the Title on the upper left into the right column. This happened around 60 hours after the start of indexing Tuesday evening.
[Samsung Galaxy A70 Questions & Answers] Mohamedselim:
I think send feedback to developer of app and till they fix the problem try another app , i use Poweramp for years for all my music needs
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
UPDATE 06/23/08

I'm having some issues with a few things. As usual, time is amongst them. In any case, the LZX version is just too slow for my taste... but maybe it's because I've been using a small pagepool with it.

In any case, attached is a teaser. It's the today screen that I've been waiting for.

As far as bugs go:

LZX version: Will not display the proper XIP version. I had a problem with the LZX compression and had to use one of Aserg's LZX ROMs as a skeleton on to which to graft the ROM. This worked but introducted this issue. I'm assuming that it's an issue with the cecompr.dll used and that Aserg had hex edited the XIP number unto the imgfs.bin.

All the "full versions" That today screen is not Landscape compatible so you will not see it properly when in landscape mode and in the today screen. Also, the background interferes with the start menu's functionality. I'm working to fix that now, though. Although, it's time for sleep...

Hey guys. Just messing around with a possible full ROM (as supposed to my usual stripped ROMs.) For now, it's based on the Diamond ROM.

It has the following so far:

Arcsoft 4 (I'm having some problems with 5... my MMS stopped working, even though they work with Just2Clean.)

Custom looking HTC Home 2.1 with proxy patch for those who use it on Tmobile's network - This is changing into something else... You'll see it when the author posts it.

Big start menu icons

Big X-Button Icons

black calculator - (My ROM users know I don't ever include calculators. lol)

PocketXpdf

TMPCP

Office 6.1 + OneNote

PHM RegEdit

Advanced Config

Audio Manager

Battery Status - This will be PART of the today screen...)

Esmertec Jbed + OperaMini 4.1 (4.1 was not buggy, the newer Esmertec I was using with it was. This is a stable version.)

HTCAlbum

Internet Sharing

TotalCommander (newest version I believe)

VoiceNotes (something else I tend to remove... I'm not sure if I'll keep it...)

NETCF v3.5

RandomAccess

Oxios Hibernate/CloseApp

This will come in 4 flavors at first.

1. Standard JustMe

2. LZX JustMe - A little slower, but with much more space due to the LZX compression.*

3. A UPX'ed version - Adds a little more speed and storage, but not as much as LZX.

4. A Just2Clean variant with LZX compression. Basically, the 70MB free one.

I MIGHT add a 5th version, a 'la Ttran's biggy if people tell me what they want in it.

*LZX compression is giving me a strange bug that causes the wrong WinCE version to show under the about tab.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] moullas:
The list looks good ivan... only things i wouldn't like would be Total Commander and PHM Regedit, since i use the excellent Resco File explorer which includes both functionalities in 1 app :)

Btw... speed & Voice dialing would be nice to be included ??

Thanks again for your hard work!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Speed & Voice dialing - Agreed

TotalCommander can also edit the registry, but I prefer using PHM Regedit. Resco is great, I agree, but it's not free, so I can't cook it in. I might make a version like this, though... might.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kelvino9:
Your ROM looks very interesting may I suggest adding HTC RandomAccess to your ROM to make it handier browsing through the contacts.

Estimated time of release?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] taspankya:
i would use this :-) , i agree with gambit, too... icontact or something for contact browsing would be nice. other than that, it seems to meet all my necessary apps, nothing more, nothing less. :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Oh I forgot to mention that was added, too. lol

EDIT: OK... the letter images that appear in the center for randomaccess are broken, so I'm gonna have to fix that, too... :p Thanks for reminding me, though, or I would have never caught that.

EDIT2:

Estimated time: Whenever I get to it. :-p I'm a perfectionist, and I tend to have too many projects going on at once... plus I rarely have time to mess around with things... and I'm very disorganized... sooooo.... soon. lol

I have a working version that I may be able to fix by tonight... So sooner than I even thought maybe...

Which reminds me... I have to update my signature. Make it J2C, J2S and kitchen and maybe a bigger donate button.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] Kelvino9:
Okay, good to know now I can go to bed and wait for the release;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
Out on a limb

I know HTC Home is kind of a standard for Today Screen, and I used it for a while.....but, I'm kind of liking the functions of BS. It doesn't take as much power or space and I can configure it with a little HTML.

I started using it shortly after flashing J2C and really like the space. Plus I have more space on the SD for music, since I'm not using HHC now. Just a thought. I sent a screen shot of my modified Aurora theme. I'm running BS with rlToday for the clock, Weather panel, both integrated in BS, and "BS Home" for the bottom buttons.

I also like Network Folders cooked in (runs smoother).

Does TCPMP include plug-ins?

That's my two cents ........
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] monkey_knight:
wm5torage

perhaps a program that most people don't use...but it does benefit me personally, since it lets me use the phone as a removable usb drive at work...where I can't install activesync...so that i can transfer files as need be...and occasionally use portableapps, like portable firefox through the removable drive...since the work network won't allow users to install software on the computer.

wm5torage is a fairly small program, so it shouldn't take up too much room...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] monkey_knight:
PIM Backup

for those that might flash every so often, but don't connect to outlook to sync, PIM Backup is a great way to backup contacts, sms', and calendar info...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Actually, I'd be ALL for it if you can provide me with the needed files. I've been looking for something like this, and although I'm good at making things work, I'm not good at making them look pretty. ^_^

Is the weather panel proxy compatible?

If it is, this will be great!

Network Folders?

As far as the plugins, it will. The version I have on it right now is a place holder until I can find a more decent package, though.

wm5torage is a good program... I might include it.

I back up everything through an exchange server, so normally I wouldn't use PIM backup... I might add it depending on the size of the program.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] papamopps:
@ batterystatus = of course best APP ever...still don´t understand why people use HTC HOME

@ wm5torage great aspp for using device AS USB massstorage on my autoradio with usb-support ;)

@pimbackup...why to include...just put pimbackup.exe on SDcard...and run manually from tim to time...

Just my 2 cents
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
All I have are the cab files. I've been reading a lot of the post in the Prophet forum for BS themes. prscott1 has quite a few different themes up and knows this a lot better than I do.

I'm sorry I misspoke earlier, I did mean networkplugin; HTC or Schaps. They both seem to work fine. Schaps is just 5K smaller as a cab.

This is where I got most of it. I just use weather panel in place of using UL as a plugin. I really can't take credit for someone else's work. I did a little rewriting of the HTML for the bottom buttons though.

Weather Panel does have an option for proxy settings.

Just what you need....another project. :)

It's easy, and compared to what you get with a stock ROM it's the next best thing to sliced bread. Battery Status bakes, slices, and toasts the bread. :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
HTC home is easier to setup and it's buttons are big enough for my fingers... but if you want to help me setup a working HTC clone with batterystatus that does what I need it to do and has big buttons, by all means, tell me. :p
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
This is the HTCHome BS theme. It's the same theme I'm running on my previous post just different lines showing. The message buttons are included and can be changed just by tap and hold on them.

I've attached the latest BS and the HTCHome theme, the HTCHopmeskin and the XML file are placed in the BS folder and the HTC Home files are placed in the \windows dir. It basically is editing the XML file to point to the progs you want to use. most of it is set for you. The on thing is the weather tab and the prog tab. I've seen a few setups with UL and as you can see I have it as an option in my setup.

Hope this helps. Keep up the excellent work.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] b.mann:
I used that theme for a while, and I really like it. Using BS for themes is a bit easier, assuming you know how to edit the .xml theme. I second using BS instead of HTCHome, more customization.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CommZ:
Looks, maybe I will use it when it is released :) Still no success with the kitchen and your j2c files :)

I would trash this:

Custom looking HTC Home 2.1 with proxy patch for those who use it on Tmobile's network

black calculator - (My ROM users know I don't ever include calculators. lol)

PHM RegEdit

Audio Manager

Remote Desktop (I MIGHT remove this one...)

TotalCommander newest version I believe

VoiceNotes (something else I tend to remove... I'm not sure if I'll keep it...)

RandomAccess

ooops...:D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
sounds like an incredible ROM! I am more of a BatteryStatus / Mortscript fan than I am of HTC Home, but I do like the touchflo scrolling. I would still enjoy trying your stuffed ROM. there are soo many great BS themes available now - some imitations of WM7, iphone, etc. I have added Ultimate launch recently (mainly for apps launching) so I have a BS/UL combo that is driving my latest themes. I'll post some screen shots when I have a chance (at work now) to see if anyone is interested.

Edit: I'm uploading a few screenshots of my latest (and colorful) BS theme that has UL, todayagenda, searchtoday and RSSNews integrated within.

first, second and third screenshots are the clock page with various rows showing.

fourth, fifth and sixth screenshots show some of my UL sides and cube in action.

I've been in a colorful mood lately. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The only thing I would require out of a BS theme would be the message indicators which I use quite heavily. I know that pappamopps uses them, so maybe he can add them to this BS theme being as nice as he is. ;)
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] DrogenDiego:
I'm on for this too if you remove remote desktop cuz I think it's useless! I would keep the voice notes though since it's kinda funny sometimtes to record sth with the phone...I'm exactly searching for something like this with the newest build since I have most of the apps in a folder called cabs on my wing :P Cuz in my opinion everyone needs different progs but this sounds like a good base to build a customized ROM on!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
Funny you should answer "the call." I spent days checking out some of your work in the BS Themes thread. I even mentioned you and some of your themes in a earlier post.

I'm kind of new to the BS themes and think you would be great help to Ivan...a lot better than I would be.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Thanks for the mention! Your theme looks good.

Ivan, I'll offer my help if you need it - I think you are in good hands with pappamopp though.

Here is one of my earlier BS themes that I posted last year. It is only battery status, but sort of looks and acts like HTC home (sort of). HTC Home look alike
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
Bump

Is this happening somewhere in time? I know you have a lot on your plate but this thread started going stale.

Just wondering about this and the Ultra J2C.....can't decide between the two when they both come out.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Updated on first post.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] waynehathaway:
Been keeping a close eye on your next release. I am real interested in seeing you hit the 70MB free storage on my Wing. Maybe soon. We'll see. Thanks for your work here.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CommZ:
So LZXed ROMs are faster tham uncompressed ones? Great!
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] prscott1:
Wow, great list! I'd love to try any / all of these! Please let me know if I can help beta test any of them. I would really enjoy being able to help test these out.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] wshader:
I'd also like to help beta test... I've been waiting for your new Just2Clean forever (well maybe a week :p).
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] cbbplanet:
yayyy!! ivan is coming with a new rom!! looking forward to it! and remenber, better looking =D

ps. i really agree that you should take off voice notes. and keep us updated! i'll definetly use your rom this time if its at least a little visually appealing =P
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
The LZX is a little SLOWER, but more storage.

Looking forward to the rollout.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] CommZ:
and UPXed are faster than uncompressed?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] waynehathaway:
...still interested...maybe 70M free?...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kweng_ca:
Hey Ivan,

Have an Eta on this release? I'm really looking forward to trying it out. :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I would have worked on it yesterday had I not spend the whole day throwing up and delirious. I've got either food poisoning or a really nasty case of the stomach flu (as I almost NEVER throw up.)

I'm basically waiting for the theme artist to finish the theme. His PC broke down so it's taken a while to rebuilt the thing from scratch. I suppose I could always release the Just2Clean variant since that's pretty much done.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] waynehathaway:
It would be cool to try out the variant. what build is it based on?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] veekay:
J2C would be great - I went back and redid my whole phone so I could start fresh with the last release of this. I really hate having things built-in that have future upgrades, just a waste of space in many cases.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] kweng_ca:
Wow, thats terrible. Food poisoning blows... I hope you feel better. looks forward to the rom. :D
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] fzzyrn:
so you're still working on it?

I was worried that you had developed a propensity for abandoning projects *cough*cookingguidejust2cleaneasybakeoven*cough*

anyway, i'm also here to ask you to take on one more project. and you know what it is.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
I may or may not have an issue with said problem... not to mention that the limited time I have horrible time management skills and my fiancee is not happy with me spending it doing things like "playing" with my cell phone.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] N3xt2N0N3:
hope your ok now...but ivan i could be a theme artist...kidnamedalbert taught me to do it
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
Les petite update.

I'm also waiting on MEXICAN3 for the dialer.
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] wshader:
So is that htc home or a battery status theme for the bottom part?
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] ivanmmj:
The theme author used HTC home for the bottom but BatteryStatus is also used... originally it didn't use batterystatus but because the original app that controlled the SMS and call counters was not a freeware, he added batterystatus. I wonder if he could use bs for the rest as well? The only program would be the rlToday clock that's sitting in between...
[Wing, P4350 ROM development] pseudoproto:
In Battery Status Extended you can incorporate other Today plug-ins. just number the rlToday and give it is own dedicated line it can go in between other BS lines without a problem. (This works with most Today plug-ins)