yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=414280

How about at the beginning? ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Axiz:
Awesome. I need some help thow. I have ipl 1.11 and spl 1.17 and i want to upgrade my uspl to 2.26 what do i have to do =).
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Keeping it short.

But it has been made a Sticky... Bacuase it's so nice..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=408637
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi Noonski Please upload me the OEM and the SYS from the last build on the server.I have an error in OEM.I can not extract zip files.:(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Whole Kitchen is....

Kitchen Uploaded to Working Folder on Server..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Okay then I will take a couple of long nights have :rolleyes: But the thing with the Mort was a great idea :D

EDIT: Yes it works :D. I will tomorrow you look at the beta to the server set.The skin on the server for the Battery status is not bad. Do me better as the home by HTC.Now I just go to a street festival.Two beer drinking;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Uploaded the missing OS.nb.payload for the ROM folder.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
I'll upload the HS theme on server in a day or two since I'm travelling. Havent got time to do the finishing touches :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Still On The Move Hey..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Yeah. Got 6 ongoing projects, so have to visit for site reviews :( But will be at home on Monday so targetting to finish the HS theme by then :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi boys ;)

http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?p=1127767#post1127767

The first Part.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Ich Gehe Diese Rom Flashen.

I like your SplashScreen better.

Gonna Redesign Mine to Bring Back My Own Logo behind the Surface one.

I Think you put a backslash to many in the link.

And i'll Up the ported new XIP that's working. (To the German Folder)

I always leave a little space in the Splash screen sow the Welcome Wizard Letters Fit right in.

Ganz Toll
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
so you can speak German:D I have the admin tool still left out.And the skins are also coming soon.But the longer I play with the Rom the more I like the mortscripts.:D Can also extract zip and cab from the SD with Mort ?

and i have fund this

http://stopdreaming.deviantart.com/art/Albook-extended-621-png-95130593
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Extracting from Zip on the SD card is possible, and off course also to.

Did get error on opening Word File from New Menu..

And the Long Press Send & End key aren't locking or starting the menu.

Your Propably using different OEMDrivers and OEM Apps folders?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Yes i will test all befor i change the oem und sys in my Kitchen.Word is fixed.How much did you program memory after booting in the English version ?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Changed some stuff around now have less free memory with new enlarged startmenu and titlebar. Around 21.8 free.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
Why 19588 when you have the latest 20748 on the server? :D I feel its a more stable build plus some inbuilt battery saver fix
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
3 litres of coffee ready,2 boxes Lucky Strike on the desk,Women and children in the zoo cleverly.Now go wrong with XIP and oem exchange.:D

Edit:1,5 Litres Coffee later :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Piranha on a Cooking Frenzy.

I can Check your nightly later on.

And i also have some updated Packages to upload.

(MMS Set Volume and euh.. enlarged start menu and titlebar)

BTW i lost the graphics that i made for the Loading animation.

Does anyone still have those BMP files aroun?

(everytime i try making them now they turn out wrong, and that version was perfect)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Have you the new version placed on the server.I have Java and MSN with them.The skin of Media Player is now available and the long press keys are now also.And I've played with the icons :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well i see there's a second Skin Version in Town.

I'll Move around the graphics in the Kitchen and re upload the KItchen tonight.

Are you also going for other Clock Fonts?

If the 04 version gets accepted i will start looking at an NL version.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
The icons were only one test had not yet there.Imust first of the German version of your last wwe adapt.The font of the clock is okay.But the BS skin on the server would be a beautiful case I will be tonight once employ.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi Noonski Next Version is ready.Inc Flash and MSN

http://ppc.c180.de/Surface/German/RUU/Surface-6.1_german_RC_V0.2.rar

For this Problem i have a other File from Diamond.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Thanks for the file but it was about the enlarged Title bar which runs as a seperate services and DLL.

It does show an icon for a message notification but does not open the Pop UP.

Also about the screen alignment being a bit of (yes i read a bit german)

We can test with a few different versions of the attched DDI.dll (driver for Screen if i'm correct)

I will look for an older version first.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi Nonnski Be the test times. But I will at the weekend not much time. We have a great family festival. I will take my new OEM folder again because some have made a mistake in it. Normal we could make a kitchen with different language files and then option.xml control.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
And then The Opal Rom Was Out in the open and made what i said a few posts back possible.

Largetitle bar is now almost working.

For those that where Sleeping

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=425694
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Manila 2D? I think the surface it would look cool
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Manilla 2d :):D Cool

But nothing for this touch surface i think ;)

Maybe for the touch surface 2????

Btw Opal? isn't that elf with new exterior???
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well I Have Been Somwhat Forced into this.....

(next to the Fact that this is what i like doing best)

Bereda is already Working on a Surface Skin.

Completly new Rom is a bit harder as the same files that cuased WMP bug some time back need to be replaced and yes it brings back the..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] robinio:
Flashed Touch Surface

Just flashed my Elf with Touch Surface 6.1. Respect to author(s), works fast. All best in the future projects!

However few things are strange;

- Disabled BatteryStatus (becouse takes much of today screen and contains unusefull information - some I can already find on top start menu bar) and then didn't have task manager any more at today screen. Probably design feature becouse I disabled BateryStatus? Installed good old "X-Button 1.5" and fixed this. Small program and works just like it supposed to and NOTHING MORE. Should be in ROM by default if I can make a vote.

- When I select city for HTC Home Weather nothing happens, 'Select your city here" remains on screen.

- Mixture of program folders and black 'mort buttons options' are confusing. Why should I always choose portrait/landscape mode when I start Album and then I must always choose folder I want to see. I had HTC Album installed before but didn't have to go through this two steps every time. Noo need for fast ROM when so much steps are needed just to see some picture. And everything you start something this way program appears in 'Recent Programs bar' with same black button icon. So you can end up with bunch of same black icons for different programs in 'Recent programs bar'.

- Missed calls button at HTC doesn't put you in Missed calls page like in original ROM but in All calls page. I also miss filter buttons at bottom of Call histora page.

- Comm Manager icons are all same. Is there a skin I can replace or is whole program different? Before that I had "Cloudyfa's not too colorful Comm Manager" (see attachment).

Anyway HTC Home was too flashy for me (liked original LCD font and icons better) so I installed TouchFlo 2D Manilla. Nice piece of software. I hope someday it will work with X-Button too ;-) I also installed 'Finger Pressure Hack' which I recomend to all.

To resume, fast ROM but I think from design perspective you have gone too far from Bram Smulder's idea of making a ROM that HTC shuold distribute in the first place.

Best regards,

rp
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Biffert:
Wow guys, great plans you got there :) Cant wait for the results!

Btw, I love that colorscheme in the logo. Is that going to be the scheme of the ROM as wel?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Greenish it is.

Which probably means it's going to be as Original As Possible So Android Cloning or Diamond Cloning doesn't look like another option.

But at least i got's me a start BTW i'm going to cheat a little ;)

But i'll keep that a secret for now.

I allready have a small idea for some Icons. Play tonight.

Facinated By Fractals..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Hey... no cheating here!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] swordfish2009:
man.. looks promising...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] werffje:
little idea for the background...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
Hey Bram,

Good to see everything starting up :)

At home i'm no starting with my final thesis/research for my education, so only time now (officially) in the evenings to do stuff for myself. Well officially, since i'm doing a desk research mostly based at my desk at home ;) sooo maybe my breaks will be a bit longer then usual....

But what might be of help to you is that I am officially a software developer (finished Information Technologies (Technische Informatica) in 2007). So maybe my background can help you a bit. And now I work at the Fontys HBO (bachelor) and i'm helping creating a minor program on mobile computing and doing some small research into developing for mobile applications (so the windows mobile 6 SDK is installed on my laptop) and tend on using my touch as test device (we might also buy some TyTN II's). But if you need a coder or debugger for some things, give me a holler!

The new logo is really nice, I like it :D Will green be the color (next to gray/black)??? Or will there be a completely different look and feel???

I am currently using this home "skin" from focal design: LINK

The Focaldesign2 is the one i am using, and i am really a fan of it interface wise, tabs with big buttons, and a middle part that can slide, where also additional home plugins can be loaded. Maybe something to consider for the new rom??? The software is called UltimateLaunch, down part is.... it's not free...

Havocnl

P.S. forgot that my phone was still SIM locked... so haven't changed the SIMs yet so not ready for testing....

P.P.S. is there gonna be one central depository for files online somewhere? can an SVN server be helpful for developing ROMS??? maybe thats an idea? But what i'm pointing at, how will versioning take place ;)?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
oeh me likes :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Fractal HTC Home Icon Set Concept.

Removed it, don't know how public Bram wants to be.

Feck It Fractal Icon Set in Action Mock Up.

Just trowing up some ideas..

Maybe Less Green in The Splatter
[Touch GSM ROM Development] werffje:
Maybe use #98f000 for some more strong green....

Also maybe a cleaner background makes the visability better... ??
[Touch GSM ROM Development] cstewart:
I am in complete agreement on a very clean = not busy background. Too much action on the background visually obscures the message. The new diamond background is a good example of subtle background detail that does not conflict with the screen content.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I agree on the Backdrop for some. But i'm using The Green from Bram's first Pic. I might change the curves around a bit. But I think the Softer not to chemical Green feels nice he chose.

For now personally i like the artsy look on my home.

So i've reused the backdrop in something else.

in aaaahhh.

What i again call a quick and dirty job.

S2P Surface Wasabi Attached.

(Might refert back to normal coloured play and pause buttons but i have to at least fill them in better, but it's getting to late for detail)

Yes Yes i'm taking it easy, just getting familiar with the tools again.. Mostly roughs.

And yes i am pushing S2L/V/P.

I still don't know why HTC Audiomanager is loved. I can't say it's bad because i simply never used it.

Well i did but it took some time to load so i gave up;)

No Bloat but usefull simple apps.

You can trade in two HTC apps and get three A_C apps back and still have more space left and less files in Rom.

(And My God i never tried removing PIMG from Rom)

And i'm going to Check Out the Sleek Throttle Launcher to.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
tried tested and flashed as suggested :D it works like a charm and i think it will be a touch surface signature in the ROM
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Re-Mi:
That's one app i would like to see as a main "os" but i think it's not 100% bulletproof if you get my point.

But the new sleek one is nice :D

I think throttle is one app that has the "wow" effect and still isn't to bloated yet. And one huge point it's fully customiseble. so we can design our "own" os .:D

so yeah, if we took a 3rd party app for the main screen throttle has a +1 from my side.

greetz,
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
This is great! how did you do this?

can you make a pckage for it?

gr, b

ps. to everyone whos posting graphics,this thread is an open thread so you can post everything you want.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yup Definitly not 100% BUlletProof on Throtle Launcher. Got quuite a few Resets with it and mad error frenzy using Gullum's Skin.

But maybe try some different skins.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
there's no cab file for it :) its an edited mui file.. i'm uploading the rom contents as u suggested and i have included these signature files too as a template for the cooking team (which can remain only with the cooking team to prevent editing ;))

will pm u the link once uploaded
[Touch GSM ROM Development] GForce:
I think it would be soooo great to start from the HTC Diamond ROM... Make it smoothly working on the Elf, add a few interesting programs & I think you guys have a very great ROM!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Hey Ameet, thnx for the Files that you send us, So the mui from device info you an add pictures to it?

Cool:P

So the mui file in the base rom had this sig already?

Upload it soon as possible to my server.

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
This aint a diamond rip-off, this ROM is gonna be custom build, so whole new style here.

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
:) the mui is from the sys folder.. i included the modified mui in the file i sent u.. what is ur server address? i didnt have it so i uploaded and sent u guys the rapidshare link
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Must prepare the server for you guys, install ftp manager and such.

Think today the server is gonna be ready.

With wich program you edit the mui files, I had once a program called reshacker but cant find it anymore.

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] havocnl:
This logo really reminds me of the logo of one of my favorite sites Tweakers.net (Dutch Site) See the attachment ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i use reshack.. found in hypercore.. here u go for ease.. wen ur server's up, let us know how to access it ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Hey ameet, thnx for reshacker,

But i thought the hypercore kitchen didnt work with wm6.1?

I think ive been away to long and dont know how to cook anymore:p

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Hey Bram,

it does work with 6.1... My Pinot Rom was cooked with it.

cheers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
haha, okay, i'll dive into it.

Mayb it's smart to set up a kitchen(hypercore, bepes, whatever) wich we all use and fermillair with, Think ameet has his kitchen already set up(sincy hes reshacking and provided us with the base rom).

So is it smart to use his kitchen?

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i havent tried cooking in hypercore since that kitchen has tadzio's tools which compresses the rom.. tried cooking for my earlier device and it didnt work, so never tried it again..

hey pk. hypercore works for elfin roms? i mean the exe and dlls are optimised in the rom so the reduced size.. please confirm.. if it does then suddenly an idea struck me **cough* secret *cough** ;) for now till i test the idea on my device
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
REsHack Rules. I Use it for everything that i don't like.

But never took on that MUI.

Now Some Correct Exe Signer that's easy to use ;).

To Saw that Broken Exe up again.

But Bepe's Kitchen does really provide a better finished Job.

But we can do comparisons, and i do miss the Core A Bit.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Indeed reshacker Rulez!!

Had that prog always in my kitchen but somehow i lost it and didn't find it back.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
A signer would be great...

I cooked several roms for elf and elfin with the hypercore...

Ameet, its what I asked yesterday.... hypercore uses files wheras bepe requires the modules.

Hope i did not get that one wrong.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
The thing is there's a signer in Hypercore but it doesn't always give the expected result. Like patched DLL files crashing the Application it uses grng.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
ohh. i c.. thts maybe coz tadzio's tools dumps the xip in files and xipport dumps in modules.. hmm.. i'll test tadzio's tools and check.. i'll rather stick to bepe's kitchen coz i dont like the complexity of hypercore (its only the imgfs tools which manages the entire show, rest all is only the batch files which automates) ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Remind me to upload the .net 3.5 package when i'm home.

This stil has 2.0

I haven't tried 3.5 yet anyone had any experience.

I read it does have some speed improvements but i've also read about some decrease in speed.. !?

And it needs some 96 dpi for QVGA. Even if the 192 work they will consume more memory because the contain larger iconsets embedded etc
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i do use 3.5 and it is fast.. i mean speeds up the system a bit :) its not included in the files coz those re from the shipped sys ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] jgoldstein:
Touchflo 2.0???

Hi Dudes, cant wait to get my hands on ur ROM!! Green is super cool!!!

in the elf upgrade forum some guys are talking about the touchflo 2 available on the touch dual! it has some extra functions in oulook and explorer, dya think we can have this in your rom??
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
can u post the link to that forum.. we'll see what we can do ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Uploaded Merged Auto Update Folder & BaseAppFiles from new Build.

New UID numbers and smaller rebuild DSM's and option XML file added, PROVXML files merged.

Why?

Keeping it Clean.

If using Bepe's Kitchen it doesn't really matter that much.

But in HyperCore after running mreloc again you gain 0.00000023 % speed and space.

Sycho Noonski hits. Nah this just keeps the Cooking Folder Emptier that's all.

Nothing drastic, who wants to spellcheck my work?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
haha.. noonski strikes back.. ;) i'm trying to change the icons in programs and settings.. dont know which dll to edit.. hunting & hunting.. :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
You should check piranha's icons in our diamond touch rom.. He can do up some nice ones
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Hey funny i just made a seprate Icon dll (it comes from Fully stripped Shellres.96.dll)

remove the .zip extension.

It's not yet resigned yet, but who cares as it's not being called by any application ;).

And i'm not sure which icons you want to change, but it's safer to have a sepret icon repository and not replace the resources in system files.

So then you either change the shortcut to add surface icon or the registry (in case of control panel icons)

Have to look up the size for the big Program icon size.

But for now i only added one icon (it needs at least one) in 16x16 and 32x32 256 colours
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
got ur file ;) but never done it before, so would need some basic directions.. tried hungting the reg entries for changing icons in settings but couldnt find any.. rest all the shortcuts are manageable
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Well changing the Settings icons is indeed a bit tricky,

But test this one

HKLM\Controlpanel\WrlsMgr

Redirect="\Windows\ShortcutToSettingWithAddedNewIcon.lnk"

But this might not work and give an error when clicking on the shortcut.

You can test this in live ROM but need to restart for it to take effect.

(there was another way but have to look that up)

Something with making a new :RAI object and linking to that in the control panel.

Jup your right have to rebuild the DLL at home removed one resource to much .
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
the new icon link might not work.. but will test it later n report ;)

right now tried cooking the rom with the unodified sys and oem folders (on xperia's 19915 build) with ur autoupdate and baseapps files packages.. the size is now 69mb approx.. i suggest we remove the unnecesary items to keep it within 50mb (or lesser, then hex edit it to make 50mb) what say?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
That's where the fighting begins and Bram Get's the Veto.

What Gets Removed and what stays.

I know i always remove stuff like welcome center and disable SAPsettings.

But in a Wide Rom the question would be "Does someone that has enough smarts to read up a little bit on flashing before actually doing so need it?"

Well i know some people that need SAPsettings and i also know people that let others flash their phone and would need Welcome center.

I do however not know anyone that needs SQM or AutoUpdate.

Upload the 69 MB version and let's just see if we can find any weirdness.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
:D ofcrse bram has the last word :D it was just my 2 cents.. i'll upload the nb file.. i'll cook it seperately coz in bepe's kitchen the rom cant be repacked :rolleyes: (i love it though)

so its easier for u guys to check the contents
[Touch GSM ROM Development] werffje:
isn't there a option that a user can select which program or options he want or doesn't want to install ? just like a vista version which asks what you want to install or not?

Just a note i'm not a cook and so I don't know whats possible and what not....

I also never used autoupdate...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
its a good suggestion and we shall surely look into making this as an option ;) will put it forth to bram for approval
[Touch GSM ROM Development] werffje:
I also don't know if there is an option that the programs or settings that you don't use will be deleted, I know the less program and storage memory the better....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
Hi Ameet pkoper has call me.I have the icon,and the links in one rar. for you.And nice to see you Noonskie and ReMi.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hey thnx a million brother.. can i pm u in case if i need some help?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Piranha1:
no Problem :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Guys, i blocked all you privileges on the server, untill there is a good structure of maps in it. all you uploaded stuff is in the "uploaded stuff"folder.

Tomorrow you guys can get into the server again, and upload things.

Before we gona cook a rom we need to discuss about how the rom must look like, i know you guys are anxious to start but we need a good preparation.

When the server is up ill post a list of apps/tweaks that i want to have in the rom, you guys can edit the list to you likings. Convince me why we should do it different!

Then we can start cooking.!

Gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] werffje:
Good idea,

I like a glossy black with "your" green look,

I hope you put the most used apps in it, like quickmenu and the photo contact which is also used on the iphone...

I'm looking forward to your list :)