yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
What Where Skin?

Someone Gave me a Nice Present, Going to Sip some while i ad some more new Packages from the List.

I know BTW understand why people like the HTC AudioManager.

(but stil trimming MP3's is better on PC because for nice loops HTC misses the miliseconds).

Any Reactions on the XDA YouTube Player

Jay My First Star.

New Adobe Reader has gotten a bit faster so definitely good upgrade.

Looking forward to converting Bitmap files to proprietary HTC format.

Bram can you send me your personal Re tweaks?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sala91:
Hey, after whyle, even Shadow 2.1 has memory leaks, so pls make shure you dont hehe :)

BTW: Some aps like Wk task are better of to not included, like HTC TaskManager is so much better imo.

Office + One note, Adobe Reader, Google Maps, Messenger, Opera browser, Remote Desctop and Viigo and Zumobi cloud be included as an extra to youre usual stuff :p

Anyway, would like to test youre rom, cant wait to get rid of shadow ones :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Make the youtube package, its not as good as diamonds but it rules anyway.

I've got the logincodes from that german geezer, i'll post it soon when i've uploaded all the flders.

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Who wants to update the Opera Package

http://rapidshare.com/files/124009147/xOpera.zip.html

with

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=401643

?

Oooh Nice Update to volume changer

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395695
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
heeeey noon,

ill start making an oem pack for opera, since I have the newest diamond build.

its a frigging nice browser, im typing this on my diamond and it works great.

xda is much better when browsing from a htc phone:) .

can we skin that volume slidee?

if so, its a nice addition to our rom.

the graphics are allmost finished an ill post them soon.

gr bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Beware of the VGA Virus going on.

It's easy to make an OEM, just checking who's awake;)

Yes slider is skinnable and i allready started working on it. (and then i didn't save it all)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Been trying to convince them here about S2P.

And now that there's a seperate HTC MP3 trimmer that works without the Audio manager.... Hint hint

It's going to be testing and trying.

The Puzzling part sounds like a good think thank problem.

And yes there's always stuff that i would do different then Bram.

But i also agree on what i think ís one of Bram's Rules.

"Keep the experience as close to the Original Rom as Possible"

New and or different Soft ussually scares of the Moderate User.

(you know the ones that never post here, but flash a Rom in Hundreds to Thousand folds)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sala91:
Actually i agree, cube is quite useless, with 5 tab HTC Home...
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
The mp3 trimmer is already a oem that works and i'm tinking of implementing s2u2 and s2p.

Krijg je toch nog je zin noonski :P

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
thnx for the feedback brother.. point taking very sportingly ;) gives me chance to plug the loopholes :)

coming back to touch surface, i'm getting my new comp tonight.. after that its cooking time again everyone :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Haha dual graphics and 16gb ram is'nt really needed for cooking, except we can aexpect graphic driver in our touches:p

Nonetheless is a killer pc and while cooking you canb play crysis at very high:cool:

gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] 123plons:
i've been reading all posts since start, and I think the surface team Rocks!!

played yesterday in the mediamarkt with the diamond, and if some of the new stuff is in the rom......

I'm definitely flashing it.

Can't wait.....

Plons

on HTC touch
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Crew: Check your inbox,

You all have pms!!

Gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I well victim to the ever elusive Blue Screen Of Death on the Touch That no one blieves exists.

It says something about a power failure and then it says CLICK YES.

But you can't click it.

This time i made a crappy picture with my Wizard Cam as Proof.

Who wants the rom with this Unique bug that gives you a heart ache ;)?

Back to Scratch good thing i have my Back up device.

Make the Blue screen dissapear this weekend allready uploading some of the working packages.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
HAHA. So i was not alone to experience that one when i started cooking ;) it does nothing, just formats the device cleans
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
But it's so bad it's good.

No We are Brothers We Share Windows Mobile Blue Screen Blood, we should start a Group.

And it's been almost 8 months ago since my last.

I modeled my Splash screen after this one in Prev Rom.

MS rocks at these weird screens.

Like "The keybaord is missing press F12 to continue"

Part of the Fun **** Up Badly then Retrace the steps to find out what it was and get better at it by starting from scratch, Wax in Wax Out.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sala91:
Why didint i get one? :D

No realy, if i can do anything, then let me know :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
It was for the Secret Brotherhood Of WinMob Blue Screeners.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
yes, our secret society worship the blue screen.

its our saviour, our hope in hard times.

if we haven't got our bluescreen we are nowhere.

praise the blue screen, sing halleluja!

now back on track without stupid ****.

today illupload my oem packs with full graphics and such.

gr bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] hwpeter:
Good Graphic for sugestion

found one good graphic you guy might want to consider.

Picked up from: ARTEMIS TOUCH 4.02 Red and Black Glossy Edition Skin [UPDATED 06.05.08]

Thanks for your Great works!

PS. when will The Touch Surface Rom be ready?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Beaumont:
Hello, Bram! I'm interested in russian version of your new ROM. What do I have to do to help you in create Russian ROM? I want to try.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Who said it doesn't exist?

Had that one a few times, mostly after failed attempts to port xip.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Trekvogel:
Oh please don't! The red hurts my eyes, not to mention my good taste ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Nah very nice work, a lot of love went into it.

It's a great example to tickle our fannies.

But not green enough.

As for The Base OSses.

Their all VGA It's better to replace all the 192 res files.

Not that ELF's don't handle it but the OS has to parse more icon sizes and if it caches the higher resolution icons and dll's it will use more memory.

Funny thing is that everytime i torture myself to start over with 2.26 Elf OS files. I then make an almost default rom. And the free memory then goes up with 3MB. So that's without removing all the SQM and other stuff.

The closer i stay to original the more memory i have.

I say take what we need from new vga OS.

But use 2.26 ELF OEM files.

Use Metadata Folder from 2.26 ELF in SYS.

Then most Sys folders from last QVGA available Dumped Rom, and only use interesting SYS folders from VGA builds.

XIP can be the latest from any resolution.

I'm using Ameet's Xperia developers version and that's performing well.

Just think about how icon's and DLL files get cached into memory it will make sense.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hmm.. it does make sense. hey brother, can u post a list in the server which mentions which can be picked up from the original 19199 rom (sys) coz the last time i tried that i got the xip build of xperia and sys of my original wm6.1

posted a new rom based on newest raphael in my thread. it is pretty good speedy, suggest we use that one ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
But are you using the Full Sys Packages?

Well i hope you guys have kicked out the wives and girlfriends.

Because i'm going to call this Hell Weekend.

Fanboy drooling right here: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=200&p=360

Also after all this time i finally find this..

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=966683&postcount=3

Going to test it.

I like to file my contacts First Name First.

So I Up my pruposed Packages to Working Folder? Right.

And extra Packs not used go into repository?

Got it.

And did that Rapheal Rom come with 96 DPI Sys packages or are those replaced ones

Auto Hybernate cool i was looking for that.

300_Diamond_USB_Mass_Storage

Is working But it's not asking on the device how you want to connect.

But it's good enough to replace WM5Torage.

It's smaller and i'll check the transfer speed. (tested not really faster then WM5torage)

(And Someone will propably make it worrk on connect to)

Another Tip disable Andvanced Network Functionality to get better Syncing with Vista.

Objections? Or Reasons Why not to?

Nope 300_Diamond_USB_Mass_Storage sucks with Big 99MB File. Retest. Well for ME WM5Torage is performing better after a few 99MB file tests.

Bram Unless you are planning on Kicking out the WM 6.1 Taskmanager, your previous ShellREs.DLL is not going to do it. It's missing some new Icons. So it has to be remade using the new DLL. At the moment i only found the Missing Taskmanager.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
bram, noonski do you guys think i can beta test?

i tried the xperia build and rapheal build and the rapheal in my opinion is better it seems more stable

im also working on some new graphics maybe ill post the they might be of some use
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I'll Up the current build i'm playing with, no skinning in it.

But nice to get some Feedback on BooBoo's

http://rapidshare.com/files/125658662/RUU_Signed.zip
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bereda:
thanks ill check it out now
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hey noonski.. i tried using the metadata folder from 19199 but it showed me build 19199.1.2.0 after flashing :( i dont know what folders to be picked up for keeping the system load to bare minimum
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
The reason i use the Original ELF 2.26 Metadata is because it contains the correct hives files,.

When i used the older Kaiser Build i had a lot more problems with RGU files not sitcking in registry. That's not happening anymore.

I don't think it's a big problem using another Metadata folder.

But it's partly Smart lazzyness, No i don't have registry settings that do not apply to the Touch.

The best would be to clean or compare Hives files from new builds, but that is a long and greusome (need spellcheck for this word) process.

But it might also mean that the hives are missing a few important WM6.1 specific registry settings.

But haven't experienced anything out of the ordinary.

(Aah my frickin head i''m getting to old for this Frickin drinking ****)

The Sub part og 19199.1.2.0 (1.2.0) can be edited in the Registry.

First one to find that reg gets a no Prize.

(yup i'm not looking for it)

Running AsyncKiller, ProcesKiller and Autohybernate.

And building my own personal Proces killer list.

Loving the way it is keeping my memory steady.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hey noonski.. the touch dialer base and kaiser blue skin packages combined gave me this screenshot. any ideas what went wrong? i deleted "phcanOverbmp.dll" from oemapps
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Don't see no screen shot but i think what you mean.

What i did with that dialer is add the RGU entries to the cab file that i ran through the Autorun Process.

After that the dialer worked (besides one Button)

But i'm only asuming what your screenshot looks like.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
oh oh... so sorry.,. deleted the screenshot.. anyways, the buttons were blanks and no text could be seen.. although i could call and dial nos but nothing seen on screen except the button borders :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yup that one.

Try making a cab of RGu file then run that in first pasrt of Autorun, thats how i fixed it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
can u send me the rgu? i'm cooking it in my rom.. dont wanna keep it for autorun ;) io love that kaiser skin with seperate pages for missed calls, inoming and outgoing calls
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I have The RGU at home i'll Upp it Later on Tonight.

I'll test the same package later on to.

And what i meant is that even with the RGU in the package you will get that weird looking ****.

You have to add the RGU registry settings to a cab file that runs in Auto Run to get the dialer working correctly, i even tried iwth a PROVXML but it did not work.

Then again i might have ****ed up then using the kaiser metadata ;)

Because i wanted to skin this dialer to because this one does have a working smartdialer function on touch
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Who is working on what build etc. probably good to get some structure....

Piranha and I have been playing with the 19588 build, both WWE and GER. There seems to be some weird things happening with the registry.

And who can shed some light on the CPL thingy?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I'filling up the Working_Folder with the new OEM packages.

What do you want to know about the CPL thingy?

Try replacing the Metadata with Original elf 2.26 version.

I'm having less (None) issues with non sticky registries.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
this is what i followed as guideline for porting the newer sys builds (for the cpl tweaking)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
cool. so we start actual cooking soon :)

tried this after reading ur last post but the problem is after flashing the build shown is 19199.1.2.0 (:eek: since wen did 19199 have aku 1.2.0) xip is right from raphael (19958) in fact the sys is from raphael too but i think there might be something in the metadata folder

i'm still looking out for a way to edit the default.hv and user.hv files. cant figure out how to edit those buggers
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
there is a tool for those in the core kitchen.... lets you convert hv. to .rgu and vice versa
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yup core does the Job.

What happens when you replace everything in metadata except the hives files.?

(Still think it's in the hives anyway, i'll check after testing Kaiser Dialer)

AKU i found here:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Versions]

"Aku"=".0.4.2"
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
hives r rebuilt by the buildos.exe, u can remove the hives from donor SYS and try to cook
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
can u send me the hive editor tools only? the aku is from one of the rgus from baselang or shell, i dont remember off hand but metadata replacement causes the build to be shown as older build
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
I'll put it on the server
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
cool.. thnx brother

hey noonski. xda search plugin is amazing job :D keep it up
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Sometimes Amazing stuff is damned simple.

But couldn't find the Build number in the hives files.

Can you poast the Metadat folder from Raphael Build?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
ameet... its just rgucomp.exe.... do you not have it
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
make_hv folder in tools
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
this is the one tht i used right now

also i'll post the details of another finding regarding xip.. my current program memory is 115.98 mb ;) deleted a few things. will post the details tomorrow :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
kk.. :) i'll check and report it brother.. till tomorrow g'nite :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
How about this.

I replaced the default phcanOverbmp.dll with one made by Dfereira (WM5SE Wizard Rom)

And it freed up 2 MB of memory.

went from +/-21.8 to +/-24.6 Okay i lied it's almost 3MB

I attached the DLL can anyone confirm this?

Remove the zip extension.

Who said new is always better.

Maybe it's a good thing we are taking the time.

Oh and using the 19958 metadata dit not change the version number. (except the hives)

So it must still be in the Hives but maybe as a hex.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] @rj*n:
hi bram... i asked previously about cootek touchpal keyboard.. u said no ^.^ now wondering if th diamond keyb will b embedded in th rom?? if so could u plz giv a thought abt not doin tht rather make a cab for it to b installed separately ( '-')? so tht everyone can keep th keyb of their choice... i reckon th diamond keyb is of large size.. just my suggestion hope u'll look into it.

lastly thanx to all u guys for doing so much for th xda-community KUDOS!!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Wel i am using the seperate parts of the Diamond Keyboard setup by Gullum.

So if need be It will only contain Base English keybaord.

And german will have extra german etcetc.

And then indeed an extra cab might b installed for a specific language.

N ot all languages need to be in there.

But these are still options no one knows what it will be.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
hmm.. i'll check the dll and confirm ;)

19958 metadata had no problems? what did u do? u left the hives from metadata? what if we delete the hives from 19919 metadata and have buildos create new hives? htctouchp confirmed this can be done in bepe's kitchen. in ervius's kitchen u need to have the hives

another thing about xip i found while playing around is that after deleting another two dll modules apart from the hd.dll and os*.dll and a few other files, the available memory became 115.98 mb :eek: and the device runs without any problems whatsoever. i dont know what do those file do but i have attached the zip of those files and deleted the references from boot.rgu.. now i'm gonna test the 19199 metadata without any hives anywhere while cooking.. will test and report :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
What is the newest official OS build at the moment?

Just saw a 20226 from pdaviet
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i've heard thats a beta build.. anyone to confirm? phamquang cant be contacted at the moment else he would give me the source
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Good Test.

Also good idea to look up dependencies of running services and processes see if they call these Exe's and to some registry surfing on them.

But Build Numbers Don't Say S#!7 anyway. They can be faked anyways. And over the years i have really not seen anything really changing drasticly from minor build to minor build. Som Sys apckages have been the same for ages.

If it works it works, if it works faster it works faster.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
i think we dont need the hives even in Ervius' kitchen EXCEPT boot.hv, i'll test my new ROM (prepared in ervius' kitchen after deleting the hives) in the evening and post the results. hives are built automatically from the rgu's, u can check them in the dump folder. if u are using bepe's kitchen, u can delete all the three hives. i'm also testing if it is possible to remove the rgu's from XIP itself.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
ok, i've tested ervius' kitchen also. u dont need the donor hives (default.hv and user.hv) at all in his kitchen also. according to bepe, the os version is inside the dsm file d0b41563-b345-4444-aa15-986e7c7fff99.dsm (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1162174&postcount=12), so i'm not sure why ameet had that problem after using metadata. plus u can remove the rgu's from XIP without any issues (at least not until now :D)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] sohard4me:
gratz! its not 20226 anymore, but 20262 is the latest one!

http://club.ccmove.com/nclub/topicdisplay-1236-1079967-1.html

and that rom is for elf/elfin also :D a pity its CHS. so any way to change it to WWE?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Cool Beans, Good research.

Away with The Hives...... not yet.

I'll take a look at where this one is located at home.

But first some sun.

Damn Cootek's TouchPal is getting better and better.

(but to make an OEM of their CAB is headaches)

Looked at the redistribution cluasule but.. eeuuhh i could not find it.

Made a WWE SD card installer for it.

Since eventually this will be UC Compatible anyway.

Done testing Async KIller, Pkill (Exception Error, WinMob reboots after it), AutoHybernate (Phone freezes sometimes for a few seconds), FtouchFlo (Touch Screen loses responsiveness Removeing these from my Advanced Configuration package.

If it's okay i'll up an open Beta Rom version.

After that i'll add MMS 4.2 and Jbed version euh...

Still need to remove a few shortcuts but it's generally to get some response on performance and memory.

Still need to add some apps of the List.

Nothing is skinned except for my own temp Surface Fractal Icons.

who can make the nicest Gif start up image using Surface Logo?

All i need for now is the latest OS folder from the latest 96dpi Sys and 192dpi Sys;)

Do some comparisons on memory

http://rapidshare.com/files/126416546/RUU_Signed.zip

Storage is at 37.37 Left without HTC album (but with Skinned S2V which is not fully in rom yet)

So it's almost a stock Rom But with some more stuff.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
guys i've decoded the Hex string responsible for build numbers. i've taken the example of 19958 build. the mystery lies in the "05 00 02 00 B0 04 F6 4D" string. "05 00 02 00 " points to the kernel version 5.2. the string "B0 04" points to the AKU version, "F6 4D" points to the build number. for getting AKU number, invert "B0 04" so that it becomes 04B0, convert this HEX number to decimal and u get 1200, which is actually 1.2.00, the AKU number. similar operation on "F6 4D" will give u 19958, the build number.

the hex string "05 00 02 00 B0 04 F6 4D" can be found in msxipkernel dsm and d0b41563-b345-4444-aa15-986e7c7fff99.dsm (great Bepe mentioned about this dsm) at 6-7 addresses. i have not tested by modifying all of them. i just tested the core version change which worked (check screenshot). i'm sure someone will (Ameet is already testing it) thoroughly test it and report the findings.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
damn u aman for putting so much work pressure on me!! :p

hey great finding brother.. can u post a link to original thread where u got this info or u found it on ur own? i'm testing it while writing this and will report the findings soon :) lack of test device is holding me back by a bit

found an online calculator for hex conversions and many more.. now its kinda easy to understand the values :) http://www.easycalculation.com/hex-converter.php
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I knew Faking Build numbers happened, know we know how.

And now there is another reason not to care about these version numbers ;)

Just my opinion.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
hahahaha, u r good enough to handle this pressure brother, remember i always tell u that u shouldnt be a manager ;)

i found the OS build number related dsm from bepe's thread a few days back while looking for something else, lol. so the credit for finding OS dsm goes to bepe only (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1162174&postcount=12). i was just trying to change the Core version as u asked me in the morning, so i'll take the credit except for OS dsm :p. i asked bepe how to decode the Hex string, but he didnt reply, may be he was busy. so i decided to decode it myself. but i'm too lazy to test everything on my own, so putting more pressure on u :D

btw, hex to dec conversion is damn easy, just use windows calculator in scientific mode, u dont need anything online.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
:D i was trying to edit the values but then it suddenly struck me "why would i want to edit the build nos?" i mean if i do that what is the trust users would have in our custom roms? here we are despising everyone who comes up with fake builds and here we go editing the version nos as we want :(

so to know how it is done, i sincerely thank aman (htctouchp) to figure out the way it is done, yet i dont want to continue with this tweaking coz i'm happy with with the way htc has already numbered their roms ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] !Aman!:
thats exactly the reason i didnt want to change them

i just wanted to share my research with this forum that its very easy to change the build numbers, so everybody should be careful in chosing the ROMs, only use ROMs from trustable sources. good decision bro :)