[TouchPad General] DoubleStuff:
I am convinced that some HP Touchpads are built better than others, and for a test I am going to install the same eXtreme setup on one of my "weaker" HP Touchpads to see if it performs as good as my "strong" Touchpad. I will even put 1 GB of SWAP on this one. Too bad you can't connect your Touchpad to a Windows PC that has ADB loaded because I would love to see the TOP command as your touchpad has a random reboot. I wonder if the RAM is dipping below 40 MB ?, HP_TOUCHPAD says that can't happen with eXtreme settings and I quote:

"None of the ROM will drop below 40 MB nor the Tablet will reboot, that can only happen if the ROM is use with the original settings ( use as a phone )" -HP_TOUCHPAD Post #95 on this thread.

As far your question about apps running in the background, sometimes after a reboot some android services with top priority use RAM as they start reporting and sending info to "mother google", you have to wait for those to settle down. Also once stock apps ( which you like ) get installed some processes associated with these apps also gets activated. And even HP_TOUCHPAD said even running ROM reducer after the stocks apps are once installed is not as good as flashing ROM reducer from the "get go".

Also as you see in some of my Memory pictures, the app called "Google Play" is taking around 42 MB, that is why

some users have recommend not even loading gApps but to get your apps from a website called Raccoon. But now with these eXtreme settings this is all not needed

because KitKat was able to pass my "stress test" with success, even with 3C battery monitor loaded and running!

I am preparing a "comment and question" post for HP_TOUCHPAD about some of this, I will post later.

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Q & A with HP_TOUCHPAD

[MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION] said many insightful things from post #95 to post #100 in this thread, and I want to ask him more

questions about some of his key comments, to dig deeper, so to speak. Lets begin:

HP_TOUCHPAD said, "The Tablet is setup to maintain a minimum of 40 MB to keep Android running otherwise the App will keep using more App and the Tablet will reboot."

DS asks, "How was it determined that 40 MB is the minimum to keep Android running? And who determined this? And is this 40 MB a variable or setting that the user can change with HP Ramdisk or Universal Authority? to make it higher lets say 50 MB, or lower lets say 30 MB.

HP_TOUCHPAD said, "Once the Stock App got install, there are services, process that also gets activated. Applying ROM_Reducer ( after the Stock app install ) will disable the App, but the services will be active. The best is to set the ROM from the beginning with ROM_Reducer."

DS asks, "Once this happens is there anyway to stop those unneeded "services and/or processes" ( i.e. using Running Services in the Developer section to "force stop", or even on an ADB shell to type the command "kill -9 PID" ? )

HP_TOUCHPAD said, "Low Memory Killer is disabled on all ROMs, that is the only module that control what process or Apps get Kill depending on the settings applied."

DS asks, "So if LMK is disabled on all ROMs using your eXtreme settings, then once the RAM gets closer and closer to the "critical" number of 40 MB, what determines which processes gets killed so the 40 MB is avoided?

HP_TOUCHPAD said, "None of the ROM will drop below 40 MB nor the Tablet will reboot, that can only happen if the ROM is use with the original settings ( use as a phone )"

DS asks, "Am I interpreting this correctly in thinking that using the eXtreme settings, that no ROM will ever drop below 40 MB of RAM, and thus your saying that no ROM will ever reboot?