yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Have you tried the 3.28 SPL. Is this any better?

EDIT:

The FAQ in the 3.* SPL thread explains the differences between 28 and 29. It isn't just that 29 is newer. There are other differences

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rfbrandao:
I've installed V5 yestarday and had the screen freeze problem worse than previous V4. It seems to be gone after installing HardSPL 3.29. Try 3.28.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
What does the screen show when you go into the bootloader?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Nightlife:
kyphur...must say gotta love your "posting and you" link on your description...lol.

Question...have you noticed any benefit to using your page pool patcher after getting the tilt running correctly with the hard SPL?

Thanks...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Personally I think true performance gains are hard to quantify with benchmarks. I do believe that between using a fixed 16mb pp and some cache reg tweaks my devices are operating better than out of the box config.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Autourdupc:
Dear all

Finally, after many time reading this thread, and follow some links to some other threads, I can't find the way of getting rid of freezes.

I'm french, and use back the original rom from HTC WM6.1 on a TyTN II.

Is there someone able to resume all the necessary tips to get a good working TyTN II, including usefull links ?

Thanks in advance to this wonderfull person... I wait for this help, like many others !

Best regards,

Laurent (Lyon - France)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Schnellburg:
still having issues with screen freezes

i did everything the OP said to do to try and resolve my screen freeze issues.

1) I flashed the OEM rom that came with my Tilt.

2) Flashed the Old and New ATT Spl's thinking if 1 didn't fix the issue, the other 1 could.

3) the ran SPPL-KAIS to Hard SPL so i could flash a custom Rom.

4) Flashed [Jun 07] Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588.

5) Hard SPL'd 3.28, and 3.29 assuming it could fix the problem. No Luck.

Should i try flashing the new 3.56 SPL or do I need to go ahead and reflash the Original SPL from the OEM rom?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Flashing to the OEM SPL's should not be required, the Hard SPL's do the same, but also allow flashing.

I suggest a Hard Reset / Re-flash if you still have freezes with 3.28 and Dutty's 7 Jul ROM.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Schnellburg:
Thanks dave will do when i get home from work, BTW a Guildwars fan? i see the skill icon for Barrage...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Yep you go me. IGN Gukgung Taeguk if you ever wanna look me up :) I'm usually on a few nights a week, not on as often as I'd like to be (GF and Son keep me busy :D).

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] confortable costumer:
freeze help for me. TKS

Hello to you men of goodwill

initially I say that I read the whole topic and I have some clear steps perhaps due to translation from English to Italian. I am not a neophyte but even a programmer. I come from a P3600 that worked well and could easily make flash

from 1 month I have a tytn II ITA with the following situation

Original HTC ROM ITA 6.1

in bootloader I

KAIS130 M6F

SPL.1.0.OliPof

CPLD-8

I do not know how to present the tytn II for the guarantee

my tytn II now freeze

What should I do?

I have to install hspl 3.28 (3.29)?

if I have to install a Hreset should I do next?

Otherwise you tell me what do I no longer the freeze that I was tired?

Very much grateful for your patience.

excuse my bad translation:)

EDIT

then I read this topic "HardSPL v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW " and I have finally understood that I must install HSPL 3.28 but I did not understand if I must also install sspl?

SSPL what?

I confirm that date with hspl 3.28 not have riflash the ROM?

Thank you

EDIT2

Right way to install HardSPL

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There are many people asking how to install HardSPL v3.56. So I'd like to share my experience, as follows:

- Connect your Kaiser with the PC by cable, wait until the ActiveSync icon does not move (should be green).

- Copy file SSPL-KAIS.exe onto your Kaiser and run it. Your device gets bootloader screen with 3 colors.

- Unplug your cable and the ActiveSync icon becom gray (it needs to be like this) then replug the cable again.

- Now you can run the HardSPL and your Kaiser will get SPL-3.56.Hard after doing these steps for sure!

va bene così?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sparcher:
I just ran into a very intresting problem - beyond what I've seen anyone report here. My problems with the screen freezes and delays was short lived and went right into a total whackedness of the touch screen response. Basically, I'd not get any response from my touch screen. I was running HardSPL 3.29. Hard resets, ROM reflashes, New roms, nothing would fix the issue. I could take my battery out of the unit and after 24 hours I could maybe do a calibration and then shortly after the screen would start screwing up and eventually go unreponsive again. I thought for sure it was the digitizer (and actually ordered a new one) until I found this thread.

I installed the original ATT SPL, without a different ROM and without a hard reset, and my problems magically disappeared. I'm tempted to stick with this SPL but the adventurous side of me wants to move to the 3.56.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Autourdupc:
Concerning my personal adventure, I was using Shap's ROM, then decided to use the new official HTC WM6.1 french...

Some freezes came after the update.

Now, using 3.28 SPL; it works fine.

Regards,

Laurent.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] confortable costumer:
no one guided me with his knowledge

I made my head

I first installed sspl (otherwise not instala hspl)

after I installed hspl 3.28

then I updated net.fram .... to Vers. 3.5 to speed up some applications

I followed the instructions as in the post reported.

Everything went well and the freeze has decreased but not disappeared.

EDIT: iGO8 does not work is dead
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rizzla1280:
Like most people here I'm suffering the same freeze issues under wm6.1.

I bought my tytn ii/vario iii from ebay with 6.1 already installed. The phone is said to be unlocked already (phones a MDA vario III, t-mobile). its boots up with the "HTC" splash screen. So i suspect its an office rom that's been installed. I've read through the posts and my head is spinning a little i just want to know with my present set up what would be the best procedure blow by blow on how to correct the freezing with my particular set up.

info:

rom version: 3.28.405.0 WWE

rom date : 05/02/08

radio version 1.65.16.25

protocol version: 25.83.40.02H

TIA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Boot into your SPL (aka bootloaded / tri-colour screen). This can be done by pressing the camera button and re-starting.

What SPL is listed there? It should probably be 3.* (where * is a number).

If not, look in the jockyw2001 thread containing the new 3.* Hard SPL's. Here --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396922

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rizzla1280:
Thanks for the reply.

Ok the bootload info on the screen is:

KAI130 MFG

SPL-1.0.oliPof

CPLD-8

So I'd just like to know what the exact procedure is from here using the info above. Thanks.

ps. Sorry to sound noobish and its not that i'm totally new to PDA's just don't want to brick the phone and i wasn't sure what the previous owner did or used to install wm6.1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Follow the steps in post #2 from the link I sent you and flash a new SPL. Post #1 explains what each one should be used with, most ROM chefs also recommened an SPL.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rizzla1280:
Seems everyones able to do this other than me...I've had about 5 different PDA from psion, palm and pocket pc, so its not like i'm totally clueless about using them.

Any way, i followed the instructions to the letter in post #2 both ways of doing it. I've run sspl-kais.exe from memory on the vario III. got the bootscreen up, waited for usb to appear, unchecked activesync so there's no click next to "allow usb connections". unplugged the device for a few seconds as stated and ran kaisercustomruu.exe from the pc, the one that was in the zip archive with the nbh file in the same directory.

first confusing thing is the program says activesync should be activated though the tutorial says it shouldn't be. When you go to the next page it says image version but has nothing there. Then next page asks you if you want to update image version " " to image version 1.00.00.0

its at this point i stopped as it doesn't seem to be able to read info from the phone. also i've notice a "errorusb" file appear in the Kaisercustomruu.exe directory which disappears once the program is shut.

since i don't really want to brick my phone unless i know thats what suppose to happen then it would be silly of me to go any further and commit to a flash.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
All that is fine. I have just followed the steps of your and I too have an ErrorUSB.fig file in the folder. Running the RUU extracts some files, which are later deleted, don't worry about it. And the missing Image info is fine. I suspect the SPL doesnt contain this info. If the RUU has trouble reading from the phone an error will be displayed before now. So carry on with what you were doing... :)

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rizzla1280:
Thanks for that, I did it and it worked perfectly, so far no problems with freezing, but i'll tested it out abit more just to make sure.

Thanks dave for the patience you showed me concerning my fears of doing what turned out to be a very simple flash. You and many others are true credits to this forum, not just in what's achieved on this site but also the manner in which it's done so...

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Why Thank you. :o:o

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Yes me too. Have always followed the official path.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Almgren:
Where can I find the ROM?

I´m running english version right now but I really want to run a Swedish 6.1

Where can I find the ROM? Swedish Official WM 6.1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ilos:
i've found another idea for lag and freeze :

Memory free for program :

i try many rom WWE with only ~50Mo of free memory on 85Mo ( 85Mo ? pagepool dynamic take 6Mo ?? ) and all rom with any hard spl or original spl have same problem : freeze and lag ...

i had just tried Nothrills rom without any modification on the memory , so i've ~70Mo free of memory and have no menu freeze or lag, rom is extremely fast

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2396963&postcount=67

I don't think it's the SPL but the memory allow for prog. All lasted rom have only 85Mo ( for 101Mo on Nothrill rom ).

Try his rom and you will see the difference.

I use Hard SPL 3.29 without freeze and lag

and a build rom 19202

( really sorry for my bad english... )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
But at least we wont have any lag for other cooked ROM if we installed JockyW Hard-SPL so far. And it is not difficult to install. Just my 2 cents :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ilos:
i use JockyW Hard-SPL with this rom, but in first post hard SPL is in cause of lag and freeze and after my test all rom with low memory free have freeze and lag ( with any hard spl and original SPL ) and with this rom without memory modification i've no freeze and lag.

Maybe if any cooker ( other than nothrills ) try to recover a large amount of memory for program, on next cooked rom, maybe we'll can see the difference on them too :)

i'm sure at 100% that it's not the SPL in cause.. but a low memory for prog

CE OS 5.2.19213 (Build 19213) ( pagepool dynamic )

OS build 19202 ( no memory modification )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
My new finding :

NEW SPL + Dynamic PPool = OK

NEW SPL + 18MB Ppool = OK

NEW SPL + 12MB Ppool = Freeze

OLD SPL + Dynamic Ppool = Freeze

OLD SPL + 18MB Ppool = Freeze
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] faifai9394:
Can someone provide a dump for the CHT SPL 6.1 I try to search around for the 6.1 spl for chinese windows mobile 6.1 but I can't find it anywhere. Please help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _LEM_:
sorry to bump this thread but does anybody know where I can get those files?

The link that kavi provided no longer works.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
check the stickies at the top of the kaiser rom development forum man
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _LEM_:
That's almost like saying 'Google it' man...

I just need a link to those specific files, I don't need to read tons of posts about how to use HardSPL, flashing and other stuff...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Well if you're too lazy to read the titles of the top 5 threads on this page and figure out which one is about the newer version of hardspl that were made to fix this issue, then i hope that everyone ignores your question. Around here the rules are READ, SEARCH, and THEN post. If you want a place to come and demand that people GIVE you information that you can easily find yourself, then you are at the wrong site. If you don't want to read about hardspl, then why would you want to change the spl on your device?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _LEM_:
wow... you are so friendly...

If you have NO IDEA about where I can find THE EXACT FILES that I was asking that were posted by kavi, just don't say anything.

Who did tell you that I did not READ and SEARCH first for the information that I need? If I asked for that it's because I cannot find them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
staryon,

Seriously, Search for your answers. We are not going to spoonfeed you the answers.

The answers are out there, just look for them.

Why you Ask? Because its the RULES.

Obviously if another member tells you to search, it's most likely because he or she has seen the answers before. However it is not there job to give you the link to theses answers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _LEM_:
JimmyMcGee,

that's ok... I have been here long enough to know that I need to search before posting for help. I know where to find HardSPL and the rest of the stuff. Obviously it's in the stickies and I wouldn't have asked if that was what I was looking for.

What I'm looking for is for some specific files that somebody uploaded, and that's why I asked.

If you are bored (which I suppose you are since you take your time to post those super funny pictures), check how many times I asked for help, and how many I helped people.

Anyway, that doesn't matter... it's much easier just to answer 'hey! use the search!'.... 'oh! another noob looking for the same thing' and things like that without thinking twice about what the person really needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Whilst I don't have the files there is a way you can get them yourself.

The RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship can be found here.

The process of extracting the OEM SPL can be found here.

SSPL and KaiserCustomRUU are everywhere and you probably have those already.

Hope this helps and good luck :)

Thanks

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] JimmyMcGee:
Good Find Dave!

You get a gold star!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] _LEM_:
Thanks, Dave. That was I needed. I was searching for the extracted files, that's why I couldn't find them.

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] van131:
Is their a simple way to get my phone to stop freezing so damn much?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Have you upgraded your Hard SPL?

If you are using WM6.1 you should be using the 3.* versions by jockyw2001.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] louisli:
I have *only* re-flashed the provided HTC SPL 3.28 and my device seems working ok with less freezes, since I can't flash my Kaiser in office, I just want to have a better idea of this solution.

I checked earlier pages of this thread the solution includes patching of the Page Pool size, so... does this means I need to:

1. grab any wm6.1 rom

2. use the patch on the rom

3. flash the rom again

Or I can patch directly without flashing the rom again?

Is this correct?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
You need to re-flash the patched ROM with a new PP. You used to be able to change the PP of your current ROM with the Artemis, but no-one has found a way on the Kaiser.

Did you know you can upgrade Hard SPL via SD Card? You might be able ot do that in office :p

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] van131:
where and what is 3.*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=396922

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RPG0:
Hmmm, i have no idea about Country ID
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] draxredd:
the freeze (slowdowns, really) only happens during the first hour or two after flashing. guess WM6.1 has some prefetch system like vista.

I've not tweaked anything and slowdowns have disapeared.

I'm running WM6.1 htc official upgrade with 24Mb dynamic pagepool and kaisertweak's recomanded caches.

so i'm one happy panda.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RPG0:
1. They're not slowdowns. We're talking about actual freezes because the screen taps and keypresses get lost, unlike usual windows behaviour (WM and Win for PC) where the events (clicks and keys) get queued. So the problem is deep in the kernel/os.

2. When i had them on other ROMs, I agree after a while i either got used to them or they weren't so often, but it might have been a placebo effect. But now they're gone from the first second after the flash
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
I asked about CID because I got rom wwe 1.56.405 at the moment. And I flashed 1.56 spl so I thought it makes it exactly like htc branded, but when I'm trying to flash official 6.1 it doesn't flash and says wrong rom :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Magic_Knight:
I have the same problem and I have never used HardSPL... I simply upgraded my original italian firmware with the official HTC updated one... and now I have random freezes and an unresponsive touchscreen :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fonuza:
Spl now reads

KAIS130

SPL-3.28.0000

CPLD-8

Thank you, did the same followed instructions/links/linked programs on this thread (thank you very mucho) and used oem htc 6.1 Spl. I had same problem with freeze and missing taps after upg to HTC WWE WM6.1 and flashed/flashed back to 6.0/hard reset/soft reset many times but now its working fine after SPL change, been playing with it (my Kaiser) for 40 min haven't encountered missing taps or freeze. Gonna try install sum stuff and keep testing it out. I have been using my finger (finger cramp) and not the stylus.

HTC TytnII

Oem HTC WM6.1 (currently nothing else installed)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dang:
I'm having the same issue with my 1.81.707.0 WWE rom. I started another thread to find out how (without HardSPL or the like) to read what the CID is from a phone.

If you find a solution for this that doesn't require HardSPL please share...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
YES! This is really hard to believe for non-believers but i've tried all kaiser pagepool changer & it doesn't fix this issue. The original HTC SPL fixed. (HTC never fixed actually, they fuxed!) Thanx RPG0.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
Fine, the only question is: can you still do hard-spl in case of future flashings? Because you won't be able flash anything with that spl you have at the moment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
Of course, just use pof's Hard-SPL_V1.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
Yeah, but did you try to flash hard-spl after that to be sure?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
OMG, of course pal :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
Ok, thanks. I flashed hard-spl after 1.56 so I just wanted to be sure if I still will be able to do that after 3.28
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RPG0:
You're welcome !

I'm glad i have a confirmation now that it wasn't just a freak accident.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
I flashed polish official version 6.1 and spl extracted from that rom. Everything works flawless for now. I will report later because I'm testing now. But it was freezing with hard-spl.

Maybe spl is not just a bootloader, maybe it's some kind of bios like in PC???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rohanmaini:
I am a little confused...

Where can I find the SPL extracted from the official HTC wm6.1 ROM.

Let me say what i think you are saying.... correct me if I am wrong.

a. I already have Hard SPL installed.

b. i am using the L26 Diaomand V2 Rom

1. You are suggesting I install the original HTC rom and Extarct the SPL portion.

2. Install Hard SPL once again.

3. Reflash a custom Rom

4. and then Flash the extracted HTC wm6.1 SPL

The reason I am confused is that I read on some other threads that even if I install the official HTC wm6.1 rom the SPL does not change and I do not have to install hardspl again to flash a custom ROM.

But if that is correct then how exactly am I going to extract the SPL from the orginal HTC wm6.1 Rom. (coz Ialready have hardspl)

Hope what I saying make sense to someone... not tooo sure I understand what I have just written myself
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RPG0:
No, what i'm saying is you should use official SPL (keep it, not just flash it for a while) if you use official wm6.1 and the freezes will be gone. If you use custom ROM, you have to wait until a new HardSPL is released.

edit: hmmm, you might be right, actually
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ehsanuetian:
My bootloader screen is like this

KAIS130 MFG

SPL-1.0.OliPof

CPLD-8

Is it ok? or should i adopt the whole procedure you mentioned???:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fireblade63:
ok man, nice feedback.

Im going to extract the nbh for SPL and have the exe ready from the new 6.1

Flash it

then flash its ROM

But I need some feedback 1st if u dont mind.

did u try video playback (you have not commented on that)?

I believe that a certain member in another thread of the same rom was stating that he has very fast playback and even the program list is scrolling smoothly like any normal 3 year old PPC:)

Is it true?

try playing like 5 different wmv's with different bitrates and an avi 700MB if you don't mind.

Also, check that program list scrolling thing

I know it is alot to ask, but I am really hating this piece of **** more day by day

Thanks in advance