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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
I wasn't commenting about your dialer. I was merely pointing out to Pauldgroot that since he is going to skin the mogul big button dialer, he might want to do one for native cdma touch dialer, and I pointed out the difference between the two.

Pauldgroot has already skinned your dialer for cdma but someone reported that 911 didn't work with that, so that is why is is moving on to try to skin something that he knows does work for cdma, the mogul big button dialer.

Don't know if you have personally tested out 911 yourself, but if even one person report it is not working, it is not a chance a lot of people would want to take.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spastic:
Excuse me for being a dummy...lol..but I cannot find the CDMA version posted by pauldgroot?

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
I took it offline because it did not work.

Working on it though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
can't wait for the CDMA version. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
First 3g beta is ready, so if you want to test it send me an pm with your email.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
If you need a beta tester for the htc touch CDMA sprint 6900, I woud be very happy to test it for you. Thanks. T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Ill keep it in mind thanks!

First I am looking for 3g devices.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
It does work. I'm using it on my 6800 which is from Verizon (CDMA network).

I'm willing to bet that some of these people having problems are using the soft reset hole instead of a software reset. This causes any changes to be killed due to the way WM5 and up save information. You need to give the device several minutes to save the info before performing a soft reset by the soft reset hole.

My other question is, did you have another dialer installed before installing this one? If yes then you need to uninstall that one first to make sure you don't run in to problems.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sequen:
my Previous dialer was uninstalled and I did not use the hole to reset after install. I tried twice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] bluemetalaxe:
not running on touch cruise

after installing wm6 did a softreset. then my device became extremly slow. so i did a manual softreset with stylus and it runnes normal, but still the htc dialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
Did you try the 911 ???

Thanks T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
can you link me to the cdma version?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] speedblaster@yahoo.com:
Does this dialer support Smart dialing???????

Nobody answered last time, so guess i'll ask again:

Does this dialer support Smart dial and reidal?

By the paulgroat, nice work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nir36:
hello, i would like to check your beta on my polaris.

thank you very much
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kareeem:
Just curious, is this dialer relatively fast compared to other dialers? I'm on the original HTC one and it's pretty slow.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kreigz:
pauldgroot,

I'm having the same problem as others ... installed your CDMA version, but the new dialpad never shows up. I had heard of waiting for the registry to "set" with the new info, so I waited 30 minutes or so. No go.

BTW, I think EVDO rev A is qualified as 3G, just a variation for CDMA networks.

Please let me know if I can help out testing ... I'm looking for your Minimal dialer with letters, CDMA version.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kreigz:
When I tried out the GSM version on my XV6900 it seemed to be faster than the standard Touch dialer in my cooked ROM ... also slightly faster than the stock dialer on the XV6900.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
Did everyone just install pauldgroots cab file or did you also install the base version of the CDMA dialer?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
It's not my file so unless pauldgroot says that it is ok I will not do so. Sorry.:(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] blazingwolf:
Didn't work. :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
exactly. so even if other functions do work, I think most people would not want to give up 911 functions on their cell phone, no matter how pretty the dialer.

as for the person comparing 3g with rev. a, i believe you are confused with what 3g dialers are. if i'm not mistaken, 3G dialers refer to dialers with video call button, and definitely does not refer to any cdma phones...it has nothing to do with how fast your data connection is.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
Some here, Thanks for trying T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
The CDMA file that I posted works perfectly on the Sprint Mogul.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kreigz:
http://gizmodo.com/5015540/iphone-3gs-true-price-compared
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kreigz:
Minimal dialer with letters for CDMA

Any luck, Paul?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Just woke up, so first some breakfast etc.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
Again, I'm sure it is "working" for you. But have you tested 911? At least two people have already confirmed that 911 does not work on the cdma version. I don't know about you, but that is not usable for many people if you can't make a 911 call on your cell phone.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
Not sure what does purpose of this link was, but to clarify what I was saying..yes, sprint Mogul with rev. A are technically considered 3G data connection, but in the context of this thread, i do believe 3G dialers is a GSM term referring to phones with video call capability (and thus a video call button on their dialer). None of the Sprint phones fall into that category because they do not have video call capability. When OP is saying he is making a 3G dialer, he is making a dialer with a video call button.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atropo:
If you want, you can take a look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1336681#post1336681

IMHO it willbe and hard work.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
Does 911 work on this one? Thanks T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zogger:
no green call button

Meanwhile any solution for this small bug?

Minimal Dialer Clean 1.1.zip

WM5
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
I was working on theskin for 3G and I used the Kaiser 3G OEM as a template.

That template looks like this:

Though I noticed the Touch Dual Dialer is much more clean.

That one is seem here:

So I was wondering if anybody know of a fully functional version of the touch dual dialer, I need to know about different devices.

Why I am not using that version is because it won't work on a Touch Cruise.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Ok different approach.

Since there is no 3g dialer that will fit all 3g devices I think I will have to make several. One for every device.

A lot of work, but if you want the minimal dialer with 3g support I will skin them all for you.

So I thought to start with the Kaiser and Polaris.

But, since I don't own either of these devices, I don't know wich one works ok.

My question to you is: Please give me a dialer that works well on your 3G device. As I said, I will start with the Kaiser and the Polaris but I can make more when I am done with those two.

Please report if you want the dialer. Maybe I will make a vote wich device I will skin first.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
for the CDMA dialers

can you just skin over the existing layout with the style graphics you have for the other minimal dialers? this will give a new feel for the dialpad but still keep 911 and smartdial since you will only b touching the images and existing layout. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Since the layout is different aswell I will have to do all graphics over again.

Anyway, post me a working CDMA dialer and I will see what I can do for you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atropo:
Kaiser 3g work for sure on 3G phone (TRINITY)

The second one no.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
I have no idea what you mean xD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
this is a very simple touch dialer.

Donation sent. ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
That is only a skin file, there are no dll files inside so I can't see what i am going to skin.

Do you have a fully functional CDMA dialer (incl the required dll/registry) cab?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
try this one.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
The picture of the dialer in the first quote is a standard Touch dialer layout which is used by Sprint CDMA touch as well as Mogul Big Button Dialer. Please make a skin for that and post the graphic files (in addition to the cab file).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spastic:
That dialer only seems to work well on HTC phones, I've tried it on 2 different Samsung's and no luck.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Sean D.:
Kaiser Dialer

I say work with this dialer first. It's the Kaiser Dialer.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=322463

My only suggestion (as if you need one) is to make it so the contact picture shows up larger.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
I will be more then happy to through some $ , for one that will work for the htc touch 6900 sprint CDMA a well , as offer any help I can . Thanks T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
well it is an htc dialer. i ran it on my old sammy i760 with no problem. i think most users here are htc users though.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abusalza:
hi, paul. your dialer through pm was working properly:D on my device (herm100). but i like style from your second screenshot, came from touch cruise. plese send me thats dialer.

for idea, i have tried working on potoshop and found some styles to make dialer like this below. (it's just an idea, please forgive me if make you confused:o)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] atropo:
J think isn't so difficult.

We can wait for a beatiful dialpad.

Bye
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Sorry but that's just ugly imo.

Looks like a plastic toy xD
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
that's just it. I don't think there has been a true cdma dialer made which has altered dll files. Reading up on the history of the blue frog dialer from paul Hammond on pdaphonehome.com, he explains it as a dialer of wm6 for cdma phone that was buried in the mogul. Apparently Sprint used a variation of the dialer for the Mogul. The blue frog dialer just resurfaces the native windows dialer made for cdma. That is why the dialer is actually "a "native" dialer for WM and not a rewritten dialer. It is also why it is limited in its layout to what I posted above (actually, what you posted). to my knowledge, there has not been a successful rewritten dialer for cdma phones which alters this layout. that is why i have suggested only skinning the existing dialer instead of rewriting it. I posted the graphic files to be used as templates:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2308834&postcount=290

Of course, hats off to you if you can rewrite the dialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] zard:
I vote for Kaiser first. Thank you.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
Working fine.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] abusalza:
hehe... u'r the man for this:D. i'm not a graphiciants. just an idea if u want to make a white glossy. its very nice
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
so the dialer works great on my vogue(cdma) altho it still leaves my data arrows in a never ending active state....what did i do wrong??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
you didn't do anything wrong, just one of the symptoms of a gsm dialer re-written for cdma phones. If you decide to keep using this, please note the caveats of using such a dialer for cdma phone that have been extensive listed above. Namely, at least two people have confirmed 911 didn't work for them.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
yhea i noticed that...i'm a little confused as to how/why this is...i mean it;s just dialing a number...anyways....where are all the sweet cdma dialers then...i was told this one worked and i did see say of it working for cdma...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
I presume you mean that 911 is working for you? I am glad to hear that, but if there is even just a few people that have reported 911 does not work (and they have), I don't think the risk is worth it unless everyone plans to test out 911 before they keep the dialer.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
you had posted a cab for a skin for this dialer that resembles v1.2 with letters. can you zip up all the graphics files and post it, especially the progress page.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
can you post a screen shot of this dialer?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2268436&postcount=204
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] webpatrick:
Since I have a v1615 (Kaiser) by Vodafone, it's deliverd with vodafone skinned Video Dialer, which I don't like, cause it has small buttons and the old ugly SmartDialing interface.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1888360&postcount=1

I like the original HTC dialer, but when I installed Nadavi's original HTC I still got the old SmartDialing interface, which also didn't work anymore.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1902455&postcount=41

So first I installed the dialer Paul is referring to without the Video button, and after that the nadavi's original Kaiser Dialer and everything works fine now (SmartDialing, Video and normal voice conversations).

But I would like to test your 3G creations Paul.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
This one does not work, the dll is not written for the DxC graphics.

Sorry guys, had no time to skin today, been busy.

Could some Kaiser people confirm that this dialer works? If so I will skin that one first.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
I just wanted to see which dialer is it that nonegiven keeps chiming over and over that is working (including 911 according to him only) for his cdma phone.

If it is the Dcx dialer unaltered, I recall on reading the post in the Dcx thread that there were issues with cdma phones. Thus I just wanted to confirm which dialer he is talking about. On the Dcx thread, there is not even a cdma dialer listed anymore (may have been removed due to incompatibility, not sure).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
You're using the wrong dialer. If you used the CDMA dialer that I posted in this thread, your data arrows would work perfectly.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
Learn how to read. It's been modified for CDMA phones.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
well i did not see it anywhere in the thread...will have to check again i guess...

edit:found it will try and update....all i should have to do is replace the dll file right....or do i have to use the dialer in the zip...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spastic:
CDMA Dialer That I've Tested Successfully

I'm posting a zip of the DxC CDMA dialer and the replacement .dll file that I've used successfully with it.

I'm not sure if both of these files are the ones originally posted by nonegiven.

I've tested too much stuff in the past week and I've slept since then too...lol.

What works:

1. Redial on various screens

2. SmartDial

3. **772 to enter the system menu on my Verizon SCH-i760

4. 911 (my wife works there so I was able to test it multiple times)

5. Data arrows show activity state correctly

What doesn't work:

1. On the stock dialer and skinned version of Wizard reTouched 2, if I hit left I go to Speed Dial list and if I hit right on the Dpad I go to Call History. This does NOT work with this dialer.

Pardon my n00bness for butting in and\or providing these files without being able to give proper acknowledgment to the producers or original posters.

Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
well i downloaded the dialer you had posted and still the same thing is happening.....and as soon as i unistall it it all works fine.....I really don't understand why this wont work on my phone....it seems to work for most people but not me...why what am i doing wrong??
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
I downloaded the dialer nonegiven posted. I replace the etphone.dll in \windows with the one that comes with the zip file he posted (I assume that is what I am suppose to do with that)..then I soft reset.

##data#, redial and smartdial works, but as Grondinm pointed out the data arrows stays white. This issue has been addressed with GSM dialers on CDMA phones. Here is the thread that lead to the development of the Big Button dialer:

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6800-xv6800/89367-htc-touch-dialer-skin-vision-arrows.html

nonegiven and Spastic, what phones do you have and who is your cell phone carrier?

Spastic, the file you posted appears to be the same as nonegiven.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spastic:
I wasn't sure if the replacement .dll was the same...

My carrier is Verizon and my phone is a Samsung SCH-i760

For what it is worth, I went and got the latest Bluefrog dialer posted on pdaphonehome.com and retested it...it does not play well with my phone...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
so it seems from reading this that each mod is carier specific....what is telus doing differently??my phone without any custome dialer does not have a etphone.dll....can this be why?? any other dll's that are causing this...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
i have a sprint touch. it doesn't have etphone.dll by default either, but when you install that dialer nonegiven posted, it gets installed in \windows directory.

Grondinm, did you test 911 when you had it installed?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
no...i'm not sure what is meant by testing 911(i can't just call it)..but smartdial worked...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
call them first with there # , then tell them you are going to test your 911 , on your cell , that's what I did , they let me with no problem . T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
sorry,i'm not sure what you mean call who first...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
what every city you are in call that police department , on there Phone #, tell them you are going to call them back on the 911 line , to check your Phone ..
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Grondinm:
ok kinda what i thought just really making sure...sorry for my ignorance...thanx for your response...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] superflysocal:
Well, I tested the dialer myself and confirm at least for MY phone and MY carrier (Sprint Touch)...911 does NOT WORK! It pauses, the reception bar goes away for a brief second and the dialer then closes itself.

So next time you spread the news of this dialer working for CDMA I hope you put a disclaimer that it has also NOT worked for others in regards to 911.

Also, lastly, I DO know how to read, do you? Did you read about the others on this thread who didn't get 911 to work on that dialer either? that sh*tty attitude of yours is more appropriate at pcgeeks, but not here.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
Any luck Thanks T M Z
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Please stop flaming.

I need to know a few things from you if you want the minimal skin for your phones.

This time we are gonna do it neat.

So please give me a response with the three next details.

1. Your phone?

2. Wich dialer (that is available in cab format) works on your phone?

3. Please give me a download link to that dialer. (not in a post but a link to the thread/post where it was first published)

4. What sort of dialer? 3G/CDMA/Whatever

Please put the numbers in front of them.

I don't want to be harsh, really. But I just need to know what to skin before I have to start all over again (wich I already did three times) just because the dialer didn't work on second opinion.

So please help me on my way if you want to have a 3G or CDMA dialer with my skin.

I will check again tomorrow night and see wich one I need to skin and I will get going. So if you help me you will have a skinned dialer in two or three days.

Good night my dearest XDA members.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
paul,

i have a samsung i760 and a verizon htc 6900 the this dialer works on both. i tested smartdialer and 911 and both work.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
That's a 3G version right?

oh yeah, please include a link to the thread were it is published

I'm off to bed, bye all.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tmz:
I have a htc touch sprint 6900 CDMA in the usa.

I would LOVE to have your skin for it ,

I tested smartdialer and 911 and both work.

Thanks T M Z

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-new-black-dialer-skin.html
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tom108:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311448
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Kreigz:
Paul,

I second tom108 ... Verizon XV6900. Though I haven't tested the dialer he mentions, I'm sure he's right ... sounds like a PPC Phone veteran.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Spastic:
I'm currently using that dialer on my i760. The only thing that I've found that doesn't work is hitting **772 to enter the service menu which is why I'm looking at an alternative dialer solution. I'd also like for the buttons to be bigger.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] remlle:
I would donate if there was a smart dial feature to these dial pads I use that feature too much to lose it
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
1. HTC Titan

2. CDMA version of dxc dialer

3. this thread has the dialer posted - no idea where "first" posted

4. CDMA
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
My data arrows work perfectly in the phone app or outside of it. I never had the .dll in my windows folder but my smartdialing always worked before so it was easy to copy the new one into the folder.

Sprint Mogul
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] nonegiven:
Stop your crying already, it's getting old.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] 9up:
I guess it should be ok, at least it'll suit for all HTC ppc like Cruise/ Kaiser/ D810...etc

Looking forward to it!!! :D
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Ok, I will look into it, maybe this evening.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DxC:
very cool

beautifully which you help me:D

good work

make pic for landscabe, please
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] black_shadow69:
Nice dialler....:)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kproj:
Very nice Skin, although DxC Iphone dialer does not work well with the Elf, in fact it keeps on crashing :(
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Can't you make a 3g version of this dialer with video?

I love the layout, so then I will skin the normal one and the 3g version in both landscape and portrait.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] LupuX:
It looks great.

Only 1 thing.. Im missing the letters :o
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] decimusmaximus7:
I second this, I would prefer to have to small letters under each number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DxC:
i can´t try it.. i don´t have a 3g phone.

i have mod your picture.

the positions are better now

i hope it is OK.

have a nice day
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Do you have a template of some sort to make them or do you use photoshop?

BTW: what did you edit? the history button after dialing? I saw it was wrong but thanks for editing I will add it to the OP.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DxC:
I changed the positions in the dll file, they to my pictures fit.

around further pictures to provide take I mean first pictures than template.

you can take everyone programm. use my picture than template.

good luck
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
That I did not understand. I would love to make my own dialer icluding layout.

Is there some sort of tutorial to do so or could you explain it to me on MSN?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DxC:
the buttonpositions on your pictures was a littel bit out of buttenzone

callstatus note, people, hold 3 pxl to down.

i move the dialpad pic 1 pxl down

........

try it.. press the button on your original.. and look around the button

and then try my mod version
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pauldgroot:
Ok thanks alot.

But can you teach me how to make dialers?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] DxC:
speak your german?

i think, my english is to bad for teaching..:(