yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Gh_Racer:
Ok I'm giving it another chance ;) Now the screen turns off correctly, what a strange thing since I've done the same procedure. We'll see! I'll keep you informed.

Anyway, do you know if tic system will be automatically re-enabled after system updates?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Desmanto:
Probably you should restart it first at the first try. I restart the watch once in a while, and probably I do that right after I disabled it (forgot already).

I don't see any system updates soon, but it should have stayed disabled. Unless there is a major update and it resets the app preferences.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Gh_Racer:
I don't remember if I restarted it yesterday, that could be the reason of the problem! I usually do it, but it could be my fault :confused:

Today I restarted it directly from adb since it became unresponsive suddently after disabling the service. Now it seems to be working properly.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Mr.Wegas:
Also disabling "Ambient Mode" app makes my Ticwatch PRO faster :)
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] thegios:
Question: if I disable or remove apps via adb, what happens during next software upgrade?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] HtheB:
After doing this, the "Ticwatch Power menu" is gone... :p (holding down the bottom button for 3 seconds)

But if you hold down the top button for like 5 seconds, it will show up the official power menu from Wear OS
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Desmanto:
Should have stayed disabled. Except if the update reset the app preference, then you can simply disable it again in adb.

My Ticwatch E doesn't have any menu show up. Only vibrate and launch the Gass. recognition after being holded down 3 seconds. I don't use OK google though.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] thegios:
Makes sense if disabled but what if removed?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] ssj4sunny:
This has brought life back to my Ticwatch. Was very close to selling it! Can happily say that i will be keeping it and works flawlessly and quickly with this trick!
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] FuTChY:
Hello,

Thank you for the tip, I've just done that but I didn't test the effect yet.

But I have a question, did you just disable TicSystem?

Or did you enable more TicApps as well?

Thank you again :)
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Nazo:
TicSystem is the most important one. That's the one that wrecks battery life and uses lots of CPU time more than anything. Several other TicWatch apps won't even work anymore without TicSystem anyway and it doesn't hurt to disable several that will have some tiny effect on both as well (you'll find them listed out earlier in this thread) but technically only TicSystem needs to be disabled for the main results to be had.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Faddix:
Hi everyone, I disabled ticsystem on my ticwatch E2 via adb but now the watch turns off the screen instead of switching to the "dim mode" when inactive, I also ran the commands mentioned in this message

Any help would be very appreciated

EDIT: I solved it by re-enabling the always on screen setting in the phone's wearos app
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] jcespi2005:
So how do you guys measure spO2 without mbvoi apps?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Nazo:
I personally don't. I didn't get a smartwatch to do what those cheap little exercise watches do. I mostly wanted stuff like the Google Assistant (which does not require any of the MobVoi apps to function.) To some extent you'll have to compromise between what you want it to do and how well you want it to run. If you go back a few pages I think there is discussion of stuff like that and exactly which apps are required to do it though so you can at least try to get it down to the minimum, whatever good that will do at that point.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] jcespi2005:
Understand, thanks
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Tetsuo1981:
Hi all, hoping to get a E3 model soon, will this debloating work on it? Ideally I'd like to keep some functions like spo2 and step counting, will go back through thread to see if that's possible but most important, will this work on E3

Thanks
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Nazo:
I guess someone who has one has to just try to find out, but most likely the answer is that it's going to be basically the same. Ultimately it's their apps that are just a bloated mess dragging the whole system down. Disable their apps and it runs better. It's really just that simple unless they actually make the apps better on that model (which is not impossible, but honestly very unlikely.)
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] master4g:
Sorry for the noob question, but how do I run this script? Do I just paste it into ADB? Thanks
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Nazo:
If you have to ask it's probably not relevant to you. It's basically intended for *nix (Linux or stuff like the Linux subsystem for Windows, BSD, maybe Mac OSX, and etc) though it should more or less work on any BASH interpreter (Msys2 or Cygwin should do even) since it doesn't do anything special in regards to external requirements (looks like all it needs is an executable "adb" to be in the path or an alias.) You paste it into a plaintext file and then either chmod +x and run or just type sh filename.sh to run it without the execute bit.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] TheMacker273:
If you guys want ticwatch watchfaces, then do not disable ticwatch companion
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] micber67:
Has anyone used this on the ticwatch 5 pro? Does it add more battery life to it?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Nazo:
Theoretically the basic principle should work for any watch. The short version of what this is doing is forcibly disabling bloated apps that are not strictly required for its operation. This will increase battery life kind of by definition (though the amount it does depends on how bloated they really are.) It's unlikely that one changed enough that this would break anything, though they could have changed app names or added others, so it may not really work if so. All you can really do is try and see. Make note of any apps it does successfully disable and you can always reenable them later. But in a worst case scenario you can always just reset your watch. It doesn't actually change the ROM or anything.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] smithbill:
Can anyone actually tell me what "com.mobvoi.ticwatch.jupiter.home" actually is and what it does?

There are endless posts about disabling/uninstalling it (along with other Mobvoi apps & services) and when I did disable it (along with system, tic this & tic that) I saw little improvement on my Ticwatch Pro 3.

I understand the effects of disabling it may not be so 'applicable' to the TicWatch Pro 3, but can someone actually provide any insight into what it actually does? Then I can make an informed decision about whether to disable it or not 😁
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] smithbill:
To answer my own question for others interested, this is what Mobvoi Support told me:

I was told by our product team that "com.mobvoi.ticwatch.jupiter.home" is a theme package so disable it will not improve the watch performance.​

​

If you need anything else please feel free to contact us again at support@mobvoi.com.​

​

Best regards,​

​

The Mobvoi support team​
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Desmanto:
You need root to completely uninstalled the system app. I won't do it.

For phones, especially the ones with good ROM development, I would definitely do it. Since even if something goes wrong, I can easily find the official ROM or custom ROM to recover the mistake.

For WearOS, I never tried to root or flash ROM to it. I won't take the risk messing with the system since there are fewer users. If something goes wrong, it can be apocalypse already. (Ok, I am being hyperbolic :p). So I am happy already, if I can disabled them to save some battery life. I better focus more on maximizing the usage by coupling it with Automagic.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] thegios:
Ok thanks. Yes I've been into phone's rom + adb in the past, but then I bought again a Pixel and didn't need it anymore ?

In theory I can disable apps from watch itself: not sure if from ADB I can disable more apps I don't see on watch directly
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Desmanto:
Most bloatware apps doesn't allow you to disable them directly. That's why we have to use adb to disable them.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Plumps_:
i get no ADB access . no device was find.

With my Mi9 work great....

Can you help?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
Did you connect your watch to your pc correctly? Does the pc recognize your watch? Did you enable adb debugging inside developer options?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Plumps_:
it's correct, the watch ist connect to PC. ADB ist enable inside developer options.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
Mh.. sounds weird, can you try using another usb port, another usb cable or another computer?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Steffen_W.:
Unfortunately, I have no 2nd USB cable. I use the original cable and charge works ... I will order a new cable and then report

Thanks

Gesendet von meinem MI 9 mit Tapatalk
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
Wait don't go wasting your money on another cable, if yours is original and isn't damaged it should work, something else is probably the issue, did you try another computer?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Desmanto:
Wait, you guys just connect it directly via the original cable? Oh my, I go thru the longer route, by using bluetooth, then redirect the debugging thru the phone :eek: Just try to connect it and it detects just fine.

I use original cable and it immediately detected. Typed in adb devices, shows up unauthorized. Tap always authorize and I can issue any other adb command already. Make sure you have the latest adb driver, probably old one can't detect the watch.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
Didn't even know that was possible LMAO
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] frantyk:
why would they gimp therr own watches like that.

I was really considering getting one.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] HiTouCh:
[MENTION=7680335]dany_ev3[/MENTION]

Thanks so much for pointing this out.

I've disabled every single TIC apps and my Ticwatch E is now far more effective.

It can now last two days without charging.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
You are welcome!
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] kojam:
Great!

Now you tell me! LOL

I got the watch-E on a good sale last Christmas. HATED IT! Wanted to like it, but couldn't. Sent it back. Frankly, the combination of troubles with the watch, the incompetence of Amazon's customer reps, etc was enough to make have nightmares when I think TicWatch. This could have been very useful.

Good work!
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] CoolTommy:
Just wanted to be another to try this and successfully improve the speediness of the Pro. Thank you so much!
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] CoolTommy:
How do I disable the other built-in apps (Mobvoi account, Mobvoi privacy, TicExercise, TicHealth and so on)? I only see the option to 'Remove Upgrades' or 'Force Stop'. They keep reenabling themselves if I use Force Stop...
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] tanapak1:
Just remove upgrades then you can disable them.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] CoolTommy:
Thank you! That worked. Although now I lost the step counter from the ambient mode. I'm guessing there's no way for it to use Fit's data?

Edit - I take it back, it seems the step counter is back. It just got reset to zero.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] fxz:
Does anybody have a list of apps to disable for the ticwatch e?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] pankomputerek:
Will this disable the step counter on the 'always on' screen on ticwatch pro?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] scamper07:
Thanks a lot sir for this!

My TWE is lot smoother now.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] mistaaah:
TicWatch E Suggestions & Feedback

Hi,

Thanks for the awesome walkthrough to get rid of the bloatware with separate thanks to this author( LINK ) plus the suggestion to go to developer options to reduce animations to 0.

All these steps really sped up the performance of the watch and also increased the battery life.

I also noticed if I switch off the Always On mode then it picks up Calls much quickly(like almost instant) than the 2-3 sec delay with Always-On mode switched on.

I installed Heart Trace 2 to keep track of my heart rate continuously and sync with Google Fit.

Airplane mode boosts battery life to infinity, although Heart Trace 2 doesn't work without bluetooth for now.

Still need to charge battery 3 times a day, but it's my first Wear OS watch, I wanted to trial with, as a Techie, got it 2nd hand just a few days back for my Birthday. I use IFTTT to get a notification on my phone when device dies and bluetooth disconnects, so I can put it to charge immediately.

But the app choices are lots and Google Assistant is amazing and its so frikkin cool! :cool:

Waiting for new chipsets in Wear OS devices for the next upgrade. Hopefully 12nm.

Wish the Wear OS was open sourced so we can slim down the OS.

Enjoy Everyone! You people are amazing! :good:
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] SAMCR02018:
I have the minimal adb ... for some reason my ticwatch pro 4g only recognizes fastboot. Is there a fastboot option to disable?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
Sadly i'm not familiar with fastboot commands, look up on the internet for one to disable packages. It's important your disable them and not uninstall them in case something breaks and you need them back
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] SAMCR02018:
Ive been looking, dont see anything ... the ticwatch oro 4G only boots into fastboit it seems?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] dany_ev3:
You don't need to boot it into fastboot, adb commands should work in the normal home screen if you enabled them in the dev options
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] SAMCR02018:
Why not disable all ticwatch apps???
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] borijess:
How do you disable ambient mode? My enable/disable button is greyed out.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] angriest:
Excellent - was just about to get rid of my Ticwatch E but will give it a second chance. Another tip is to disable the 'OK Google dectection' in settings/personalisation. For the ticwatch E, I disabled the following in the 'apps' settings on the watch:

Fitness

Health

Mobvoi Account

Step Ranking

Ticwatch

and I disabled Ticsystem via the OP. I also disabled the following two packages:

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.social.aw

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.watchface.aw

'Ambient mode' appears to be 'com.google.android.wearable.ambient', which is not a Mobvoi bloat-app, so I'd be cautious disabling that one. Again, I'm working with a Ticwatch E, so the Ticwatch Pro may well have something different.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] elotan:
Hi all. I'm not sure how I fixed it in the first place but until yesterday my LCD screen (not in essential mode - just regular use with always-on set to off) showed just the time and date. It didn't show the step counter. Either it was through setting, or maybe when I manually disabled and force stopped some of the tic apps (I did it to save battery life but maybe one of the side effects was this)/ Since this morning I see the step counter as well. I looked through the settings but didn't find the place to turn it off again. Can someone please guide me what to do?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] pandron:
[Ticwatch Pro 4G]

I did a quick science to figure out which apps lead to which functionality. This is obviously not a comprehensive list, but may explain a few things. Apps that I disabled I marked "Disabled" otherwise I kept them enabled to maintain the functions that I liked. I am not using Mobvoi's health tracking services and instead am using Google Fit, but I wanted to keep the speaker-clearing and SOS functions. I like the Mobvoi watch faces, but can't abide the lag that the bloat ware causes.

com.mobvoi.wear.privacy.aw (Disabled)

- Required to enable/disable mobvoi permissions

- Disable all permissions (turn off all toggles in the watch app) before disabling this and it will hide the step counter on the essential mode watch face

com.mobvoi.ticwatch.jupiter.home (Disabled)

- ?

com.mobvoi.wear.fitness.aw

- Required for step/heart rate on Ticwatch watch faces (and essential screen probably)

- Required for sonic water-clearing of speaker (in bottom-right button long-press menu)

com.mobvoi.wear.sos

- Required for SOS feature (in bottom-right button long-press menu)

com.mobvoi.wear.lpa.aw

- Not able to disable, so it must be important

com.mobvoi.wear.mcuservice.aw

- Required for long-press bottom-right button

com.mobvoi.wear.account.aw (Disabled)

- Required for mobvoi account access

com.mobvoi.wear.appsservice (Disabled)

- Not sure what this does exactly

com.mobvoi.wear.health.aw (Disabled)

- Required for health data for certain Mobvoi watch faces (will lead to a black screen on Zoran watch face if you press the heart-rate button for example)

com.mobvoi.companion.aw (Disabled)

- Required for companion app

com.mobvoi.wear.watchface.aw (Disabled)

- Required for Mobvoi watch faces

com.mobvoi.wear.system.aw

- Required for bottom-right button long-press menu
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] tomekpap:
Edit: Tested once more and it seems to be the regular Ambient Mode used by device so killing not recommended.

Ambient mode seems to be that "Dim Mode" that only way I know to enable is using Ultimate Watchface 2 shortcut. It brings brightness to a very low level and I think it is the predecessor of the current ambient mode.

When I disabled it via watch settings covering the watch with palm didn't enable it back on again, when tried to use Dim Mode in watchface shortcut it took way longer than usual and that package was enabled again.

So I think it's safe to disable. It can be done via settings and seems to stay disabled anyway.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] elotan:
Hi

I've disabled the Mobvoi app after revoking all its permission through the watch interface, however I still get the step counter (and with to get rid of it).

Any suggestions?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] borijess:
Are you using any other app? Like Google fit? If you are that would start counting steps instead of mobvoi apps.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] elotan:
I have google fit installed on my watch but I am not using it, nor being able to remove it.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] egyangelo:
How have you as you said >>>> (I had disabled every mobvoi app on my smartwatch and that improved battery life dramatically (Mobvoi account, Mobvoi privacy, TicExercise, TicHealth and so on)

if you can give a little bit more details about these steps, I will be very thankful

I have followed the steps and disabled the Tic System via adb for my Ticwatch E2. I have not tested yet the change. but i'm sure it will help as I was already frustrated with the battery drain.

kindly elaborate more about disabling the other Mobvoi Apps and services.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Nazo:
Thanks for this thread. I've been getting more and more frustrated every single day with my TicWatch E. It's getting more and more sluggish and less responsive such that the CPU seems to be so overloaded at times it even handles voice commands horrendously. (I've seen it show the correct text on the screen for what I said and then do something different from what I told it even.) It used to be fine a while back but has only gotten worse and worse. I know the largest problem of all is the simple fact that we're layering multiple levels of systems on top of each other (essentially one OS on top of another) and this is a huge advantage in some ways (Wear OS continues getting updates even though the TicWatch hasn't received one in ages, cutting reliance on the OEM to continue to support their device, which is great because most OEMs abandon their devices quite quickly...) I've been considering buying a new watch ASAP, but I'm desperately hoping this will make the difference. I was thinking the only solution to this bog down mess is simply a faster, more powerful CPU, but maybe just maybe this will make the difference.

Of what I can tell so far after doing this it does seem to be running more smoothly, but only time will tell the full truth. Fingers crossed... Thanks again!

I noticed "force stop" still appears on some of the stock Mobvoi apps. I'm wondering if it wouldn't be beneficial to disable via adb all of them? If so, does anyone have an app list of what should be disabled more specific to the TicWatch E by any chance?
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] kellerman40:
Running mine same now. Works flawlessly.
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] Desmanto:
I don't experience terrible lag with my TicWatch E, but I don't use the voice command though. I built my own widgets to execute the voice command on my phone instead. I find inputting or voice command directly from the watch unpleasant to do. But it is still convenient enough to select task from my overlay widgets.

I just wish a better battery life. More powerful CPU are welcomed, but I still prefer the efficiency first. Charging twice a day is not convenient. If I forgot to charge it at the night, I am guaranteed need to bring my cable to the work, which I might forgot to take home later. I don't see any new promising wear SoC yet that can have more than 2 days battery life with moderate usage. So I am still waiting for it.

I found out the app still can be force stop as you mentioned. Previously I just disabled it. Just a few minutes ago, I uninstalled them and still fine. This is my adb shell command

pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.companion.aw
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.account.aw
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.fitness.aw
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.health.aw
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.heartrate.aw
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.social.aw
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.system.aw

The only Ticwatch app left is the watchface, as I can't move on from it. :D
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] L3ibnitZ:
They did not throw everything into the trash bin. They created the amazfit bip with an eink display. The battery lasts over 30 days for me. But the watch is not very smart (no apps, no assistant, the pebble was much smarter in my opinion). For now you have to decide whether you want a really smart watch with bad battery life or a not so smart Swatch with good battery life. The third option would be to by a normal watch with a button battery ;)

On my ticwatch pro I can get 3-3,5 days of light usage.

Tips to save battery:

Ok-google detection is turned off.

Every mobvoi app is disabled, but ticsystem is still enabled.

The LCD display is used as always on.

The led display is set up to only activate when I press the hardware button or I get a message.

Only the messages from apps that are necessary for me are enabled to be shown at the watch.

Bluetooth always enabled.

Wifi always disabled.

GPS disabled, will be enabled when necessary.

No fitness app is used for now. (Google fit is installed but has no permissions)
[Wear OS Software and Hacking General] jpen7:
Great thread! i just did this to my ticwatch E C7n2 and it worked like a charm!