yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
I tried version 3.3.1-3 on Beta Q5 for the hell of it. And this is what happened.

Twrp booted up and skipped the pin logging screen. I tried to install a zip ,but it did not fine my files. I believe all it needs to get this working is the login.

Thanks for the great work on TWRP...

[emoji12]
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
It skipped pin because it can't decrypt data on beta 5. It can't decrypt even with Q blobs. Its entirely a TWRP problem at this point, and will be fixed by the core TWRP team down the line. I have everything done device side for Q right now.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
Sometime down the road I would like to give it a try...

Thanks.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
There's nothing new with my Q TWRP that is different from the current on Q, besides the fact that there's now one extra partition that it can't mount.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
3.3.1-6:

Revert "Revert "Don't include repack tools.""

Add haptics firmware.

* This obviously on it's own isn't enough to get haptics working for the 3A in TWRP, but its a start.

Don't include a precompiled update_engine_sideload

* This should fix the issue of flashing officials for StatiXOS
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] kirschdog1:
Compatible with ex kernel?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
No. I have a pull request for LZMA support for it, but they haven't merged it as of now.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Just reuploaded 3.3.1-6 with one key fix, didn't feel like making a whole new version.

USB OTG now works :)
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] felt26:
nice! It's official now!
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] stebomurkn420:
Clean installed stock ROM and TWRP has been working great since. IDK what happened. lol. Thanks!
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] John256145:
I can't seem to get this working properly. Booting TWRP from fastboot works fine and without a problem. However, when I install the twrp zip and try booting from recovery, it refuses to boot into TWRP and instead reboots normally. Is anyone else having this problem?

EDIT : Looks like I need a custom kernel???
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
Yes, I believe you need a kernel. (EX)

You can use TWRP 3.3.1-1 with stock kernel.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] John256145:
Wait, are you sure?

I was reading the all the info on the main post in the thread and just found this:
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
3.3.1-4 to 6 needs a custom kernel. Element X kernel now has the support for TWRP.

3.3.1-1 to 3 is for the stock kernel.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Nope, 3.3.1-1/2 were both built using LZMA to my recollection. Only 3.3.1-3 do i remember building explicitly for stock, and even then it wasn't great.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Yes, please read the OP top to bottom before flashing anything. Reading is a valuable skill.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
Changes happen so quick I got confused. Good to know, thanks..
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Sc4ryB3ar:
Ok, first, I have read the OP fully, and I understand the instructions. I can follow the instructions, but I have a question before I do any of that....

Am I able to flash the new official zip through the TWRP app, and not have anything to wrong (like having to flash the latest factory boot.img) for the first TWRP install? Or do I HAVE to boot to the twrp.img via adb on a computer, and then install TWRP via the official zip?

It seems reasonable to me, that if the current zip install script flashes to both A and B, then I "should" be able to flash over the stock recovery without any issues.... (Already running Ex kernel)

If I had my druthers, I'd flash TWRP via the app, reboot to TWRP, backup stock rom, flash magisk uninstall zip (just for caution), full factory wipe, install StatiXOS, Ex kernel, Magisk zip, and reboot
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
As long as the ROM/kernel you are using supports the lmza or lzma(did I spell that rt?) compression when you install the latest(official) version of twrp it will flash to both slots through twrp.

I'm using bootleggers & on first boot I used twrp through fastboot(3.3.1), but after that installed the official version zip(3.3.1-1) permanently and have had no issues.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] fromeister2016:
twrp

what is the method to download the latest version of twrp to flash to the pixel 3a xl? I can boot to twrp using the image but at that point I am at a loss to figure out how to flash the twrp 3.3.1-6 zip for the 3a xl because I haven't been able to locate the zip file for the bonita version of 3.3.1-6. any help would be great.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
If you go to the stable/official link on the 1st page there are 2 bonito installer zips; the older one(labeled 3.3.1-0) will say 3.3.1-6 when you reboot into recovery after you flash it, the newer one will say 3.3.1-1. Both work, but I'm not sure what the difference is. I think one is beta, the other is stable. From OP:

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version: 3.3.1-0

Stable Release Date: 2019-07-17

Current Beta Version: 3.3.1-6

Beta Release Date: 2019-06-27

Anyway, just fastboot into twrp and then flash the zip to have permanent recovery - as long as the kernel supports it. Flash magisk after if you need root.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] shadyshadow:
For me 3.3.1-1 did not say 3.3.1-6 after I I stalled.. I'd like to know where betas are too..since that's what I wanted to install...anyway all's good twrp on phone
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
That's because in my post I said the older file(published 7/17/2019 @ 19.05edt) 3.3.1-0 zip will get you the 3.3.1-6 version, not the 3.3.1-1 zip(dated 2 days later). Please see attached screenshots for proof.

*I'm not sure if it's a twrp issue or a magisk issue, so this may be OT and for that I apologize, but has anyone else sporadically lost root after installing the permanent version of twrp? I don't think it happened before the permanent install, but I could be wrong.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] shadyshadow:
No problem .. thought one was beta. will correct it later .. haven't lost root yet
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
Oh...no worries. I was just trying to clear up some confusion.:good:

I do believe the 3.3.1-6(3.3.1-0 zip) is beta though.

*from op, 1st page: Current Beta Version: 3.3.1-6
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
I have three Pixel 3a XLs I would like to install TWRP on, then root and later (hopefully) install LineageOS if/when it becomes available.

However, I am a little bit confused since I understand that I would need TWRP 3.3.1-3 to install on stock ROM on this device codenamed sargo. The download page (https://dl.twrp.me/bonito/) mentioned on the first page of this thread is for bonito devices and only has versions 3.3.1-0 and 3.3.1-1?

Clearly I have missed something but what? Thanks.

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[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] stebomurkn420:
Your devices codename is Bonito NOT Sargo... Lol
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
I have three Pixel 3a XLs I would like to install TWRP on, then root and later (hopefully) install LineageOS if/when it becomes available.

However, I am a little bit confused since I understand that I would need TWRP 3.3.1-3 to install on stock ROM on this device codenamed sargo. The download page (https://dl.twrp.me/bonito/) mentioned on the first page of this thread is for bonito devices and only has versions 3.3.1-0 and 3.3.1-1?

Clearly I have missed something but what? Thanks.

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So bonito is the 3a XL and sargo the 3a? How about the specific version I need since I am running stock ROM but could not find?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] stebomurkn420:
There is NO "specific" version for stock rom. Stop overthinking things. Just grab the two files from twrp site and a kernel that has LZMA support (if you want permanent twrp). Boot twrp image. Flash kernel with lzma (optional). Then flash twrp zip. Done.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
I think your confusion is the 3aXl is codenamed "bonito", not sargo(sargo is the 3a non-xl version).

So if you have the 3aXl(bonito) flash either recovery version and you should be OK - but you need a kernel that supports lzma compression to permanently install twrp. Bootleggers ROM has it, Dank kernel does, and the newest version of elemental X does too...stock does not.

But if you have sargo...I can't help you because that is not our device in this forum.

*It's best to follow steb420's instructions from the above post:good:
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vestaviajag:
What am I missing?

Downloaded 3.3.3-0 (img & zip). Fastbooted using the img, then flashed the zip. Can't get it to stick.

Was under the impression from the thread, 3.3.3-0 would be fine for stock. Clearly, I'm either wrong, or I'm missing something.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
OK, will do. :) Any reason to pick one kernel with LZMA support over another?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] stebomurkn420:
Nope... But I know my kernel has it and works! Good luck!

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Read all the previous replies... It's your kernel likely.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vestaviajag:
So to help someone else out (I know it's been covered, but guess I wasn't smart enough to put 2 + 2 together)...

downloaded twrp from dl.twrp.me (got 3.3.1-0 because I thought that was the one that worked with stock; when booting into twrp, it actually says 3.3.1-6)

downloaded ex kernel from elementalx.org

fastboot boot twrp-3.3.1-0-bonito.img

then flashed ex kernel zip

then flashed twrp-istaller-3.3.1-0-bonito.zip

Success.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
What about the ability to maintain root efter using Magisk?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Giocarro:
Let me ask a couple of questions:

- the steps you suggest do install TWRP and kernel, but not root, right? If this is the case, how do you control kernel parameters without root? As far as I can tell usually kernel applications need root to control kernel.

- do you find EX Kernel better than stock Google kernel, without tinkering parameters?

Thanks!
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vestaviajag:
I left that last step off, sorry. After getting twrp to boot normally, I then flashed Magisk with success.

I don't generally mess with kernel settings, just needed EX to get twrp, as twrp wouldn't stick with a stock kernel. I've poked around the EX app, once I got root, but I mainly wanted root for ad away.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] JAlvarezFlores:
Flashed TWRP 3.3.1-1 Official using Ex Kernel Manager :good:
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Is a particular version of fastboot required to work with the 3a XL? I tried with the version of fastboot I have installed under RHEL but it did not recognize the device when the command "fastboot devices" was used whereas I have successfully used it with older phones. I do need to check using another cable as well, though, since it is the first device using a cable with a micro-USB connector.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] USSENTERNCC1701E:
That's an ADB command. And TWRP won't respond to fastboot commands anyway.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
The Pixel 3a XL needs adb sdk ver. 29.

There is no such command fastboot devices at this time. It is adb devices.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] gee one:
If the device is in fastboot mode, fastboot devices will work. But yes, I think the original context was about trwp/adb.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Sc4ryB3ar:
I knew this would work!!!! While I followed the OP instructions, I am really happy to know that it would indeed work!!!!
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
It was actually about the first step, fastboot boot twrp.img and there is a fastboot devices command and that did not recognize my Pixel 3a XL. I note that version 29 is required but I cannot tell which version of fastboot I have and I do not see any flags to show this information...
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Dnorris55:
Fastboot --version

That's a double hyphen. Older versions might not have this flag.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] kirschdog1:
I tried to flash official through twrp got stuck in a boot loop? anyideas?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
Is there Q version of TWRP in the works?

THX.... [emoji1696]
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Yes. the version I have does not support it.

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Downloaded a later version of fastboot and other platform-tools and I now have the fastboot --version command working, as well as fastboot devices. However, when I type fastboot boot /path/to/twrp.img it sends the file but then fails with:

Booting FAILED (remote: 'Fastboot command (boot) is not allowed when locked')

I do not remember seeing anyone posting this error? The device is OEM unlocked in developer options (and the phone was bought unlocked from Best Buy.)

Hmm, just discovered that the fastboot mode menu says "Device state locked" and "Enter reason combo key". How do I address this?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Yousvel:
use fastboot flashing unlock command to unlock your bootloader
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Fixed. Had to run fastboot flashing unlock first.

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Finished installing twrp but it seems that I lost all the software I had installed and the data! Was this to be expected? I had not made a backup so I have to recreate the setup. Fortunately I had not installed all software on this phone yet but I did lose data...

Before I repeat this procedure on a couple of more phones, should I expect to lose apps and data?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
Yes. Unlocking your bootloader wipes your phone.

You have twrp installed now though, so you should be fine from here on out. It's just the initial unlock that wipes you out.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
I now installed magisk manager and then magisk, the latter via twrp. Unforunately it now boot loops after being stuck at the Google boot logo for a couple of minutes. What did I do wrong? I flashed another kernel prior to twrp until I installed magisk it seemed to work apart from losing all my apps and data...
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
If you've already permanently installed twrp - which it sounds like you did since you installed a different kernel(non stock with lmza support is needed) - try formatting your data & then rebooting to recovery & re-flashing magisk after.

To format: boot to twrp, go to wipe, format data, type "yes". Then reboot to recovery and go from there.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] kirschdog1:
Where is the betas?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
This version gives you 3.3.1-6 which is listed as the latest beta in the OP(yes, the zip says 3.3.1-0, but flash it and it's 3.3.1-6; stable is the 3.3.1-1 zip):

https://dl.twrp.me/bonito/twrp-installer-3.3.1-0-bonito.zip.html
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Interesting, did not know that. It is OK though, I had only installed a subset of my apps so it won't be too hard to recreate.

But, I cannot get magisk to work with dank kernel that I installed - I get loops back to recovery now after reinstalling from the beginning. Should I be able to root dank kernel with magisk? Looking at posts for ElementalX kernel it seems that some features do not work.

Which kernel do people recommend for rooting with magisk? The process I followed was:

flashing whicheverkernel.zip

flashing twrp 3.1.1-0.zip

flashing magisk 19.0

wiping dalvik and then rebooting

I also tried wiping the data partition but that did not seem to have any effect. I must be doing something in the wrong order since this works for some people?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
It sounds like you're doing everything right, although magisk 19.0 may be an issue -try upgrading.

I use 19.3 and all is well... https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445

*Also, wiping data and formatting data are 2 different things.

*Also, also - you can try booting to the other slot through recovery and see if that works.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] kirschdog1:
Not working for me. Tried flashing through exkm and twrp both ways lead to a bootloop on official. Concerned that the official twrp for our device is causing bootloops. Does anyone actually have a working official twrp? What am I doing wrong?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] Giocarro:
I hawe TWRP and ROOT working perfectly fine on my bonito.

These are the steps I performed:

(from PC) Fastboot boot twrp-3.3.1-0-bonito.img

(inside TWRP) flash EX kernel ZIP

(inside TWRP) flash twrp-istaller-3.3.1-0-bonito.zip

Reboot to system

Reboot to TWRP

(from TWRP) flash official MAGISK ZIP
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Just to do a test, to ensure everything is reproducible, flash a factory image.

Boot it. Once it reaches start screen, reboot to boot loader.

Temp boot into TWRP.

Flash whatever LZMA kernel that works on stock for you. I tried Elemental for this test.

After flashing it, flash the latest official TWRP zip. Then reboot. It worked for me, so it should work for you.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
That's not something that can be done solely device side. That's pretty much up to the core TWRP team. From what I can tell though, TWRP needs commits from AOSP to support dynamic partitioning. They also need to support the new Q encryption stuff. I've done pretty much everything that I can for Q device side, just gotta wait for release as they have publicly stated they will not release anything until they have a stable baseline to work with.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
It says 3.3.1-6 because I forgot to remove the TWRP device version from Board Config. It's a variable that's supposed to be set in your environment, not actually Board Config. There is 0 difference between the two zips.

https://github.com/ZVNexus/android_...mmit/79dae4caac1081834c971b46c8689993667c66bd
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] vandyman:
Thank you very much for your reply.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] :
Good to know. Thank you for your work.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Looking at https://developers.google.com/android/images, there are four factory images, two labeled PD2A and two labeled PD3Q. The first two from March, the latter two from June. My other 3a XLs are running PD2A 190115.032 - is this the version I should download or should I download and flash another, perhaps the latest PD3Q 190705.003, version instead?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Of course. Always use latest unless told otherwise.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Followed this exactly but still having problems. On the first reboot to system it proceeds to where I can begin setting up the system. At that time, I shut off the phone and rebooted into twrp, pushed magisk 19.3 to the phone and then flashed from twrp. By the way, I am using ElementalX-P3A-1.05 kernel. Are you on the same version or should I try another one?

Rebooted, the Google logo shows, up and stays on screen for quite some time whereafter the phone reboots into recovery.

I will now try to reflash the factory image PD3Q and repeat the above.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Hmm, tried flashing PQ3B from 190705 but could not install it since it complained about "invalid zip file format", the same for PD2A from 190115.

Did anyone else see this?

By the way, which version of Elemental kernel?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Lol. You don't flash factory images. You extract them and use the flash all script. Also look at Edwins updating monthly bits guide.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Ah, OK, did that and then installed Elemental 1.05 and the twrp installer. But, is your phone rooted wth Magisk 19.3? That is when I run into problems - which I did again and the phone rebooted into twrp recovery.

Perhaps there is some incompatibility between Elemental 1.05 and Magisk 19.3??
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] sic0048:
I

There isn't a compatibility issue. Are you pushing the same 19.3 file each time? Perhaps your download is corrupt.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Yes, all files have been checksummed after downloading with the exception of Magisk where I cannot find a checksum to match.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] luigi90210:
Maybe redownload magisk then and try again. I'm rooted with the latest stock update with twrp and ElementalX 1.05 kernel installed.

If you haven't redownloaded magisk after the first time it didn't boot I'd try downloading it again.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
I did, no difference. I also tried installing Magisk 19.4 with no change, still bootlooping.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
I can share that when I installed Magisk 19.2 it worked fine and I have root. Thus, there must be a bug in 19.3 and 19.4.

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Should one go back to the Settings and turn OEMunlock off after TWRP, appropriate kernel and Magisk root have been installed?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] direwolf1:
NO. Do not do that unless you go completely back to stock.

FWIW, magisk 19.3 works great for me.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] hga89:
Ok, thanks for the info on the OEM unlock. Not sure why 19.3 did not work for me...
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] h8Aramex:
Can anyone help? I am kinda stuck.

1) OEM Unlock enabled.

2) Wiped phone.

3) Booted TWRP using fastboot boot.

4) It boots up.

5) I try to flash TWRP .zip... and nothing. It just boots into normal system, cannot boot it no matter how hard I try.

What am I missing?
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
Please read OP before asking for help, its there for a reason.
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] h8Aramex:
Thanks for not helping, much appreciated!
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] ZVNexus:
I did help, your solution is within the second paragraph... I literally put it within the first couple paragraphs so people would see it because it's extremely important. Unfortunately people don't seem to read.

"Note: You cannot install this on stock without a kernel with LZMA compression support."
[Google Pixel 3a XL ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Ot] seniorstew:
If you don't mind me asking, why did you discontinue your Rom?