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[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] rodcpierce:
So with only 2 hour awake time... Its suspect for sure. Seems a little odd.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
Mostly social media apps, some phone calls and taking a lot of photos with the camera.

EDIT: I can post a few screenshots later on! :)

You wish! ?

Blocking some nasty kernel wakelocks + tweaking the **** out of the kernel for best possible power efficiency without compromising overall performance does this kind of things.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Badger50:
I knew you'd appreciate good sarcasm ????
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
Indeed that I do ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Symphony0fLife:
The reviewers give negative comments on the battery because 90%+ of reviewers don't review phones. They review specs on paper, give a hot take without ever really putting their SIM in. You're lucky if they use it on wifi in their home/office for a day or two max. They put 10 minutes worth of video together to play their audio over and post. It's a race to be first, not to be accurate. They do this with every phone. In reality, you MUST use a device for at least a couple of weeks as a true daily driver to get any idea of real world use. Specs never tell the whole story. Plenty of phones with amazing specs aren't good real world, and some phones (Particularly iPhones and Pixels) aren't great on paper but real world usage is great.

Same thing with features. Wide angle lenses for example were criticized as gimmicks when the likes of LG and a few outliers were the only ones using them. Now that some of the mainstream manufacturers put them in, any phone without a wide angle is "garbage". Fingerprint sensors aren't at all secure in that anyone can unlock your phone when you're asleep, Google slips (and it is a flaw, not arguing that) and makes face unlock work when your eyes are closed and it's a deadly sin and the phone should be roundly trashed. None of it makes sense. If a reviewer doesn't use a given phone for at least 2 weeks as a daily driver, jumps on a demonstrably flawed bandwagon like those two examples, their review is to be dismissed without a look at all as they have no interest in honesty and helping potential buyers, they just want to be first, give the bandwagon opinion for maximum views/least dislikes.

On topic though, I wasn't getting great SOT the first week or so but since then I regularly get between 6 and 7 hours. 7 being the max and only 3 or 4 times, but I never get less than 6 hours SOT. Usually gets halfway through the second day no problem.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Kencutrien:
Your on screen is insane. I've got about 9hrs + on my pixel 4xl. But I am not able to add my screenshot on my post.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
You need to have, I think, 10 posts before you can upload a pic. It prevents spam.

After having the phone for 7 weeks, I can honestly say the Pixel 4 XL is getting less SOT than my Pixel 2 XL's first 7 weeks. I get 4-5 hours with an occasional 5.5 and while the 2 XL easily got 6-7 and an occasional 8. Am I mad, no. Disappointed, a little bit.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Symphony0fLife:
That's what I always have trouble understanding. I've had a lot of phones. Some could last a couple days, a couple couldn't get through one (every Samsung I had before giving up on them after the Note 9) but almost all could get through an entire day. Most recently before the 4 XL I had the OnePlus 7T. It would get a steady 8-8.5 hour SOT. I'd get to the end of the day at 10pm with no less than 60-65%. Still charged it nightly (once I spent a few days seeing how long it would last out of curiosity). My 4 XL of course isn't anywhere near as good on battery (particularly when it comes to standby overnight)... But it makes it to 10PM with a solid 25% left and so far no less than 5 hours SOT and that was only the first day or two. Does anyone out there actually go two days without charging their phone even if they have a device that *can* last that long? Beyond initial curiosity testing of course. I don't know anyone that goes more than a day without plugging in. Just doesn't happen real world.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
I could most likely touch the 13 hours SOT border if I am keeping the brightness level at lowest - and getting a few very lovely eye strains for free at the same possible time.

:silly:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] suzook:
Curious if anyone runs at 100% brightness. I do, and im wondering what i should expect? Yes, every user ifs different, but wondering if i could get 4 or 5 hrs. Thoughts?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Mackay53:
Without knowing your usage patterns we'd be just throwing random numbers out
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
In their defense many of those reviewers have reviewed many phones over many years. They've learned by experience what kind of hardware specs result in what battery life. The biggest impact on battery life is battery size and screen specs. With enough experience just looking at those things gives a very good idea of battery life. It's just like with MPG on cars. You don't have to personally try out a V8 truck to know it's not going to get much better than 18-20mpg. Battery life on phones is similar. A 3040x1440 6.3" screen running at 90hz being powered by a tiny 3700mAh battery makes it pretty clear what kind of battery life it will get.

And stating SOT isn't really a good indicator of battery life. Let's take 7 hours SOT for example. If that's over a period of like 18 hours off the charger with mobile data the entire time, GPS navigation, watching streaming video, listening to music, playing audio over Bluetooth, taking pictures and video and maybe even some games with 80%+ brightness then 7 hours SOT is great. If that 7 hours SOT comes from 12 hours off the charger, on wifi the entire time, 60% or less of brightness and only doing light battery using tasks like browsing then 7 hours SOT is pretty bad. When i first got my Pixel 2 XL I was able to, on a few occasions, hit 9 hours SOT over like 36 hours off the charger but that was on wifi the entire time basically just browsing with Chrome with maybe 40% brightness. I considered the battery life mediocre because under more real world usage and heavy usage I got more like 4 hours SOT over maybe 13-14 hours off the charger which was why I have to take a battery pack and cable in my pocket. And it's even worse now after two years. If the Pixel 4 XL can only do 7 hours SOT AT BEST under very light usage it's already worse than the Pixel 2 XL. I'm personally sick of ever having to carry a bulky battery and USB cable in my pocket just because to get through a long day away from a charger.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] andrea.ippo:
How did you get this cool blue hue?

I'm on a Pixel 2 XL and the default blue is lighter than this one. Are you rooted?

Thanks
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] otrobruno:
I use the phone at 95% everyday on LTE, force always 90hz and got between 6-7 hours SOT

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I meant 95% brightness, previously I got the P3 with the same settings except the 90hz screen, I only got 3-hopefully 4 hours of SOT and nobody was complaining.

This P4 XL is the best phone right now
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Raistlin1:
My OG Pixel XL had good battery life, my Pixel 2 XL also had good battery life on the original software version but once it was upgraded to newer versions my battery life tanked. I was using the 2XL up until a few days ago and I would have to charge my phone a few times a day, I chalked that up to an older battery and just not as good on 10 (and yes I have tried wiping).

Finally got my 4XL after having to wait a month after ordering on black Friday and I have to say that I am let down on the battery life. I have only used Nexus/Pixel devices for the longest time and refused to ever use an iPhone or even a Galaxy device, was toying with the idea of a OnePlus but I am a big fan of Pixel phones.

I remember getting my Pixel XL and 2 XL and my battery lasting until bedtime, today using the 4 XL I am now charging it as it got down to 30% with using the same apps/browsing/music I have always done. I hope it gets better or I can find some ways to make it last longer, but I suspect this is just the way it is.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Ducter:
OnePlus 6t

I currently have a OnePlus 6t, it's running stock rom rooted slightly debloated of OnePlus apps. I've wanted a pixel 4xl since I need a dual SIM phone and prefer stock Android. Here's my battery stats and usage. I'm a mix of WiFi and mobile data. Those with similar usage, what can I expect from the 4 xl? I've read horror stories on the battery yet some users posting here don't seem that bad. Thanks.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
I've never gotten close to 8 hours SOT but other have and more. And a very rare few can average 8+ hours. I'm around 5-6 hours at the most which is okay but I got a good 1.5-2 hours more with the Pixel 2 XL.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the 's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] kevmosis:
My phone stays in my pocket quite a bit, but I'm apparently getting phenomenally better battery life than most (certainly the folks reviewing it). Even if I pull it out to watch a 3 hr hockey game while I'm at work, when it's not out and in my face it'll last for over a day easy. I stream music over a Bluetooth speaker a lot and still, nah. Again though, my screen on time is prob a lot less than most and I plug it in for the android auto on my 30 min commute. It's better than my 2xl was and I need to plug it in far less than my iFriends
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] N0T3chW1z:
I was having many issues at first, including battery drain overnight, but not to be dismayed by the lack of support from (well you know) tech companies (ahem), as always, I relied on the superior knowledge at a place called "xda" (you may have heard of them), after doing a factory reset and starting over (yeeeeaaaahhh), I now have the phone I thought I was buying, so thanks to the many knowledgeable people, developers, rom writers, etc., on this forum. Of course in my opinion , anyone who owns an android device should be required to spend a minimum of 100 hours reading on this site, even if they have no intention of rooting, or well whatever. As for the issue at hand, I used a little over 13% now after a little more than a day, including overnight no use time, obviously Im a lite user compared to some, but my trusty nexus 6 (5 year old) battery had seen its better days.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Ati75:
Care to elaborate? Did you root? Custom kernel? I'm still on the fence, but only because of google pay. I know there are ways to achieve this even rooted, but still...

Ever had a massive technical problem, and after searching the net for an insane amount of time, you finally find a lost soul having the same issue? Isn't it kind of frustrating when there is only a "Solved it!!!" with no obvious solution?

Just saying. If you solved your issue it would be great to show us how. Maybe there is someone out there having similar problems. You never know.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Symphony0fLife:
Honestly it seems to vary user by user. Depends on the apps you have installed, whether you restrict their battery use, turn off notifications, etc. etc.

If you use social media apps, strongly suggest you manually restrict their battery use and turn off notifications. Other phones that have amazing battery life (Huawei for example) do this for you, they aggressively restrict apps, but Google doesn't.. Makes a massive difference. Made a huge difference for me. I went from 10%+ battery drain overnight to about 2%. Same during the workday. The battery drain is hugely improved when it's in my pocket or on the desk through the day.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] sb1893:
I've had my Pixel 4 XL for just over a week. Biggest ROI in terms of battery life for me has been turning off Bluetooth Scanning under location settings. I also turned off Always On Display (but I may start testing with those options as I had done that before turning off Bluetooth scanning). Motion Sense, Smooth Display, etc...are all on and working great. I'm at 13% active drain / 1.7% idle drain and my phone goes to Deep Sleep as I would expect. Not finding a need to limit my usage or worry about it...getting 22-24 hours of projected life a day, not charging during the day and not worrying about it. 4-5 hours of screen on time. I'm happy....my Pixel XL was struggling to get through a full day and I had been using various battery packs as needed to allow it to limp along. Really happy so far. I haven't unlocked bootloader or rooted yet....but may head down that path if needed. (Google Store Unlocked version on Verizon)

Edit: Forgot to mention I also disabled Digital Wellbeing and I believe that helped as well.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] N0T3chW1z:
Mostly nothing was working correctly, the transfer data didnt work, the battery was draining as fast as my old nexus 6 (the reason I decided it was time to get a new phone), couldnt get it to connect to my wifi without turning off security and allowing a first ip address (tech support cant understand that concept), receiving double notifications, fi switch app would take me to the dialer no matter what I pushed, like settings. It was an absolute total mess. I rooted my nexus 6P with Pixel Experience (how awsome is that thank you devs), and fi switch was normal. Thats why I did the factory reset, wiping everything and starting new. Still had to turn off security in wifi till I got it set up, but everything else has gone to normal like it suppose to. Dont like a lot of google stuff, still turning off whatever I can, limit as many sharing and app allowances as possible (dont send stats) only use Bluetooth as needed.

Nexus 6 rooted stock with TWRP (thank you TWRP people)

Nexus 6P rooted Pixel Experience and TWRP

Pixel 4xl not rooted stock rom and recovery

Im still a newbie compared to the great ones who have a presence here, Thats why I read the how to for rooting probably without exaggerating 20 times,

I also read thru the forums completely to find how others get fixed, wish I was knowledgeable enough to help others, maybe some day :laugh:
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Ati75:
Thanks for the feedback! I really never thought about it this way. My Samsung phones did restrict different apps really fast. That Google does not force this in the same manner never crossed my mind. Also with bluetooth scanning. I had that turned on the whole time, just because i honestly forgot it was there. Same goes with wifi scanning i guess. Will try these out.

I will keep staying unrooted for the time being.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Tosslehoff:
Seems like maybe a launch quirk?

My Pixel 2 XL pulled 3 days 20 hours of projected use after a year of use.

My Pixel 4 XL is pulling just under one day.

I did not copy my device over, I have a fresh install. Wifi and Bluetooth scanning disabled (but really it's 2019, nearly 2020, this shouldn't be an issue)

However, my Pixel 4 XL seems to have had a significant boost to longevity after the December feature update.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] idees:
Hi there

I have a battery drain at night (sleep 8h) at about 6-7%. Not too much, not little. I remember my pixel 3's drain at night was 3&4.

Stanby drain is an issue on pixel 4 I think.

What about yours ?
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] N0T3chW1z:
If it helps anyone: in the google assistant settings - Open the Settings app > Google > Account Services > Search, Assistant & Voice > Google Assistant - there is a possibility of battery usage "unseen?" in different settings - I had the recognize music going and on the good side it accurately found every tune that played on the radio while I was driving, the downside is it used a lot of battery, you can make a "quicky icon" :) for the home screen should you so desire, to make it off/on/off easier.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
What!? And you were actually using the phone? LOL. I got a 4 days 15 hours estimate with my 2 year Pixel 2 XL and that was from not using it at all because I got the Pixel 4 XL. Haha. Had only 26 minutes of SOT.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] rodcpierce:
That's really not bad at all. Less than 1% an hour standby drain isn't terrible. Especially with the active display.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I don't own a Pixel 4 XL but my understanding is that Always On Display isn't really "always on" on the Pixel 4 XL. It's only on when it detects your presence. A 1% per hour drain with AOD actually being on the entire time would be incredible. A 1% per hour drain with AOD off would be terrible.

Just for comparison when my Pixel 2 XL was new it drained at about 3% over 9 hours (0.333% per hour) with AOD off and about 13% over 9 hours (1.444% per hour) with AOD on. With a 2 generations newer processor and 5% bigger battery I would expect the Pixel 4 XL to be better.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] ram4ufriends:
Pixel 4 does have Always On...detecting presence is another option....
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] rodcpierce:
Correct, but anywhere near the phone with movement and it triggers it. If its sitting next to you on a table, high chance its going to be on most of the time just from general movement. Now, if you sit it on your desk on the other side of the room, no, its not going to show unless you have it checked to show all the time.

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Also, this highly depends what you have set for notifications from apps. Like if email is push or set to refresh on a time schedule, etc. There is so much that goes into this ****. Is it on LTE or Wifi? Cant just make huge blanket statements.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Symphony0fLife:
You are correct, however if you use the feature that turns AOD off when you're away, you then have the radar running in the background 100% of the time waiting for you to get in range of the phone to turn AOD on. So it's still great. My 4 XL uses between 0-1% overnight. I'm not sure if AOD is on all night, but it IS on when I am lying there. If you're lying or sitting anywhere near the phone (10 ft or so) with any kind of movement at all, it is on. So is the radar. Factoring that in it's pretty incredible. This thing just sips battery now that it's good and settled in. Same with SOT. it's gone from average/slightly below to excellent.

That said, for the first week or so mine was draining 5% or slightly more overnight. It got better and better over the first few weeks until this point. Now it's brilliant. That's the part that I don't like about reviewers doing hot takes on these things, just reviewing specs on paper rather than the phone itself. Until you've used it for a few weeks-one month, you have no idea how any phone will actually perform long term rendering 98% of the reviews on YouTube completely useless.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
A lot of the legit reviews have used the phone for a week or more and others have done a one month later as well. The phone is okay and maybe good at best with battery but it's still a good 1.5 to 2 hours less SOT and many hours less than my Pixel 2 XL was in the same first 7 weeks.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] Symphony0fLife:
Unfortunately there are precious few legit reviewers, none of the big channels actually do proper reviews. They get the phone a week or two before launch, they spend a day or two with it seldom if ever popping their SIM in, admit they carry more than one phone and drop a 10 minute spec review the moment the embargo lifts. That's not a review. That's a listing of specs and opinion based on specs combined with 10 minutes of footage showing the design. Unfortunately what those folks don't know could fill a warehouse. These are the same people that dismissed wide angle lenses as a gimmick but now that Samsung and Apple have it any phone without it is trash. Or crying about the fingerprint sensor, the "ultimate" in security being gone, when it can be used with a person asleep just like face unlock (though face unlock can be fixed, print readers cannot.). They're just worse than useless when it comes to info on devices.

The statements of bad battery life are patently false. I can't force this phone to get less than 5 hours SOT. Interestingly, reviewers that have actually used the phone directly contradict them. Objectively it's good to great (the XL anyway). I haven't seen a single month in review from a person that's ACTUALLY daily driven the device as their sole phone for a month getting anything less than 5.5 hours SOT with most averaging closer to 6. I'd wager 24 hours per charge with 5-6 hours SOT would be perfectly fine for most people. Picking the phone back up off the shelf and using it again for another 24 hours after an update or two does not constitute a month in review. If they've taken their SIM out one time or used any other phone alongside as a "primary" their review is dismissed out of hand. Not just on the Pixel, but any phone.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] EeZeEpEe:
If you're in a vacuum I guess that's great. However, when phones get either the same SOT but have more percentage left at the end of a day or can get 8+ hours off a single charge, the Pixel 4 XL is not great and average at best. I'm getting 4-5 hours SOT with an occasional 5.5 when I easily got 6-7 SOT and occasional 8 hours with the Pixel 2 XL. Again, reviewers put the same 1-2 weeks into a review and also see more SOT and battery percentage at the end of the day too. So you can't totally disregard their battery hate because they're putting the Pixel 4 XL on the same daily usage and time period as their other phone reviews.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] jimv1983:
I am curious just how much battery the Soli sensor actually uses but it's certainly more than not having it. I'm skeptical of that 0-1% per hour overnight. I remember early in owning my Pixel 2 XL waking up after 8 hours and it still saying 100% and it would stay that way even after 10+ minutes of use. When it finally did drop from 100% it dropped more than 1%. I wonder if you are having a similar issue.

I'm curious what you mean by "settled in"? You mean the newness wore off so you were messing with it less?

I think the reviewers depend on the reviewer. Some reviews on YouTube will spend maybe a day with it and try to review it. Others will actually use it as their main phone for a week or two before doing a review. So far everything I've seen shows the battery life of the Pixel 4 XL to be worse than my Pixel 2 XL when it was new and the Pixel 2 XL battery life was mediocre at best even when it was new.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] JellyPuddie:
Try putting your phone face down when you're not using it for extended period of time. The phone idle drain 9% over 9 hours (1%/h) face up, whereas it drains 3% over 9 hours (0.333%/h) face down. I have everything enabled, except AOD and now playing. The 4G signal strength is normally 50% or less (countryside), so that might cause more battery drain too.

My guess is the proximity sensor disables the motion sense stuff when it's covered, thus saving battery. I think 3% over 9 hours is not too bad, given that it's connected to WiFi and 4G, and have many apps installed.
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] idees:
My battery drain reduced to 3% overnight (8+ hours sleep), with motion sense completely OFF
[Google Pixel 4 XL Real Life Review] DSF:
The drain is still similar / the same after a while?