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[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
While I know nothing of Android development (I'm more into game development myself haha), I agree that with you that I think this project could really benefit by being open-source. There's a whole lot of knowledgeable folks on here that could possibly help with all of the roadblocks and such. But in the end, that's not our decision to make- it's the Switchroot Team's. They are the ones who pioneered the project, and if they want to keep it to themselves for the time being they're totally in the right.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Yeah, but... :( Yeah i guess you are right.

But still I have never wanted something to release this badly before, this even beats me waiting for an ios 9.3.3 jailbreak way back in the day! :cool:

I mean I probably want this so badly because I recently broke my childhood IPad mini and yearn for a new personal ipad! :silly::laugh:
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
Perfection does not exist on Android.

Sometimes there are bugs on Android(bêta and alpha)and the dev's fix it in the future(for the tablet media,smartphone etc).

Now if you cannot release the OS because of another problem apart from eventual bugs, it's another story...
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Uhm... Everything you need to help with getting lp0 to work is already open source. I have actually already seen one person external to the team build and try coreboot with lp0. The only thing that isn't open source yet is the adapted device tree. But coreboot, u-boot, atf, kernel are all on our GitLab. So if there were really people who wanted to help getting this to work they could have done so for weeks ?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Dammmmmnnnnn,

so now that everybody knows is anybody actually going to help? :rolleyes:
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
When could you release a beta release without ip0 please (since the final version will be released in 5 years lol)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] TheLinKuei:
Now watch everyone who was crying and b***hin about open source gonna be silent af and nobody ain't gone do ish. Lol

langer hans, keep doing ya thang, I wouldn't even answer these people hardly especially the ones begging for ETA and release. Take your time, work your magic and forget about the immature folks in here. We will all be alright no matter how long it take to release it. Fix your bugs and drop it whenever it's good in the eyes of the switchroot team. #100
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
I have a better idea.

The moderator close this topic and as soon as it is released in 2030, the team will open another topic.

This topic is so far from the mentality of the Android community.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] TheLinKuei:
If 2030 then so be it. Yea we might have cooler devices by then but even if so, we ain't doing anything to DESERVE android on switch. These guys are doing it on their free time and FOR THE FREE also. So I think the better idea would be to have patience.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
What did we do to deserve atmosphere and the continued development of it? What did we do to have emuEMMC actually released on June 15th? What did we do to have all the emulators and home brew there are on the switch?

What did we do to deserve sx- Actually no... ;)

These developers aren’t working for free, they’re working for the thrill of of running things not meant to be run on the switch. :)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] sacnotsack:
I know were all excited for this, to include myself, but I have got to say that this thread contains the most whining that I have seen in a long time.

ETA - its released when its released.

Beta / release what they have so far - see ETA above

Open source the project - I understand wanting to turn it to open source, but I also understand some of the reasons (that I can think of) to keep it closed.

Those three topics have been brought up and the OP has addressed each of them. I don't understand why these topics continue to be brought up, pestering the OP about these things won't change anything. This is just my 2 cents.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] orangekid:
Nope.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Also side note: If you’re a dev with a proven track record, it shouldn’t be a problem to give you access to everything. We’re a bit cautious tho cause we had a person leak builds before, but we’re also not opposed to help :D

Just be aware that the build process is neither very straightforward nor documented well yet, so prepare yourself for pain and suffering ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
I hate to say this:

But why do you guys fear leaks?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rinzheim132:
i'm starting to hate this thread because of people like you
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Mostly because leaks at this point would be barely usable by people who don’t know exactly what they are doing when installing them. We’d be flooded with support requests for unfinished builds. God forbid people ****ing up their SD cards and losing their data :eek:
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] dt92:
Isn`t the SD flashing etc. the same as for emunand and L4T Ubuntu? sure some people have problems with such things but the rest loves to test and maybe *** or switches, repair them, find the error and repeat (=

(Running latest Atmosphere/Hektake on switch, with emunand, and l4t Ubuntu with moonlight, yes needed some time but it works fine :D)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] CertifiedBlyndGuy:
Keep the work up guys. This is some of the coolest work I've seen published on XDA in a very long time
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Skratinog:
Are you talking about the Lakka L4T that spread all over the community? Please think about publishing a compiling method in RetroNX like L4t. People do have interest in the project. It would be a pity making people wait over some bad people. At the end ban people asking for support, and let the other users test it for themselves.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rogeriskira:
Since you're using the joycons over bluetooth, is there input lag? Or shall I say "noticable" input lag to them?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
I didn't specifically measure it or anything but while playing but it didn't feel very high. I could see me playing streamed games on it without worrying.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rogeriskira:
Thanks! Looking forward to that, and await the wired drivers. :)

Also, what Bluetooth codecs will we be able to use for Bluetooth headsets? I'm thinking all the usual 5? SBC, AAC, APTX, APTXHD, and LDAC? Thanks again.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Yeah this is gonna be disappointing, but the Switch isn't wired up to do A2DP so we'll be stuck with SCO. Sorry to the audiphiles out there (and anyone really who like to listen to music), the Switch ain't the device for you.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] weirdingway:
Well that at least answers the question as to why Nintendo doesn't support BT audio due to the weak quality of SCO (and lack of controls). Kind of surprised they didn't fix this for the new Lite version coming out. Hopefully they bother to get the Pro wired up to support it.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
So the switch can't hook up any bluetooth headphones? Weird but thanks for answering that.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] npessoa:
I don't get it. They say in that xda article that it supports basic A2DP.

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People actually does use headphones on L4T, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible in Android as well.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
I guess that was a misunderstanding. You can connect BT headsets and listen to music/videos that way, but what they meant with "basic a2dp" is basically SCO. So quality wise it won't be the greatest experience.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] 7Akira7:
Your profile picture fits this so well ?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Hey, at least Nintendo had the courage to put a headphone jack on the Switch...
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
[MENTION=10045167]gavin_darkglider1[/MENTION] Thanks for typing all that out, good summary for those who want to venture into helping ? I haven’t looked into the coreboot stuff for display. Wasn’t a priority as I have an UART adapter for debugging. The build process you outlined is obviously planned to be made simpler, I struggled myself for a long time to set it up correctly… Also if you want to join us on Discord ping me and I’ll get you an invite, I’m langerhans#2409 there.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] gavin_darkglider1:
[MENTION=9648761]bylaws[/MENTION] sent me an invite link, that didnt work, but if you want to send me another one, feel free to send it in a pm either here or on gbatemp, where I have documented most of my progress on my gentoo port.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Skratinog:
relaease the rest of the files so I can compile please.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xdanilva:
Soon™
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Skratinog:
Because no one has that much knowledge to compile from scratch this, why don't you do the bare minimum and post in RetroNX insturctions to compile like Lakka l4t etc. About the support on unauthorized builds, you need to realize that no one will ask for an unauthorized build on discord. Just give us a guide in RetroNX for compilation please I beg you! It has be 2 weeks 0 discoveries the project is as silent as a grave and I predict without you giving the project a different approach and make the project more open will achieve nothing for years.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
You have made three begging posts in this thread since yesterday. Save your breath, you're barking up the wrong tree ;)

To update those who don't feel like 1300 posts is "silent as a grave": ByLaws is currently working on a new build. Is this gonna be public? Dunno, not my decision. But it should have GPU frequency selection like CPU with performance profiles (I think?). Oh and supporting the first SD partition in TWRP so flashing zips will be much simpler.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Great! Still no success with GPU and Minerva after exiting lp0?

Those benchmark results posted on your Twitter - is this after OC, or before? I guess RAM was at 1,6GHz? Can we expect even better performance?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
Seeing as how you are the only one open to a "beta" release it probably won't be public. But good to know this project is pushing towards a new build. Im as excited as everyone else is for this to release but the devs has every right to release it on their own time. Just got to be patient.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
That was long ago, I think that was with 1.6GHz mem and 1.7GHz CPU, but don't quote me on it ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xdanilva:
1.7GhZ is the max overclock before the potentially dangerous 2.0GhZ
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
Langerhans, I don’t know much about android but this form of deep sleep will support wakelocks and background notifications. Right?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
If they get lp0 working it should, yes.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] gavin_darkglider1:
if I were so inclined, I could build an asop android build using the information on this thread, and the work on switchroot. The one pain would be the dts stuff that hasnt been updated on gitlab, but I am fairly certain, with a uart adapter, I could probably figure that out as well. That being said, I dont need to, because I can just ask for it, and get a testing build, since I am one of the only people on any of the switch forums who has managed to build the sources on gitlab, for both the kernel, and the boot chain.

Long story short, the hard work has already been done, up to a point, the rest is basic android building for arm64, and the driver packages from the shield devices, which I think are applied using twrp at the moment.(dont quote me, I have only read the testing instructions breifly.) That being said, if anyone wants help with their own version of Switch android, I have no problem giving pointers here and there.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rinzheim132:
honestly, your patience with this kind of stuff is breathtaking, i would have lost it a long time ago... cheers for you
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Hmmmm ?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] clate01:
The teaser god strikes back :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] EpicLPer:
If you tease it and not gonna post it today someone will get hurt ??

JK of course but MAN am I hyped up already!

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I mean I'd love to give the build a try but despite being an IT Admin I have 0 knowledge of how to compile stuff haha.

I tried once, filled up my Ubuntu VM, spent hours on fixing stuff, had the next build running over night just to find out it failed again and then gave up.

And here I am wanting to become a Dev sometime in the future. Ain't gonna happen I guess lol

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Honestly I'd love a Beta release too, I love finding the weirdest things no one else has discovered yet.

But that'd also mean that the devs have to work even harder due to all the feedback coming in from all around, plus from people who don't know how to debug basic stuff on Android or how to exactly describe what they did to trigger that issue and so on.

I've tested a lot of stuff already, wrote hundreds of bug reports, got access to different closed Beta things, signed NDAs and I still make mistakes or forget things from time to time, now imagine some 14 year olds trying this out cause "Lol nice, Wii games!!!11" and complaining that nothing works for 3 whole forum pages :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] gavin_darkglider1:
For what it is worth, I have never considered myself a dev. lol. Sometimes I do dev things, but generally I am more an IT person who has been running gentoo for 16 years(Now I am pushing 30)..... This gives you all sorts of information on linux, and the way things work. Before that I was building and maintaining networks for my schools and stuff. Long story short this stuff has always come easy. But even I cant seem to find a job doing this stuff, so I live on a park bench, and do what interests me(Such as building custom linux on the switch.)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Hey, nobody said today, but preparations are being made. Building, uploadiung and also writing instructions takes a while :P
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] EpicLPer:
? Keeeeeep on wriiiitiiiing... ?

:D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
I do ;)

I got word that the plan is to release within the next five days. Given the images are quite large it does take a while to package and upload everything.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Thread is live, but for now we'd like to ask to keep discussion here until we actually uplaod images: https://xdaforums.com/nintendo-swit...opment/rom-switchroot-lineageos-15-1-t3951389
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] EpicLPer:
Maybe a stupid question but how fast is the internet from the guy uploading it? Must be snailishly slow if it takes so long for each build to be uploaded then.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
It's not just uploading, but also doing the last polishing steps on actually building the images ;)

Btw, we asked mods to lock the other thread until then. After that we'll ask them to unlock there and lock here to keep discussions focused.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rinzheim132:
i was thinking, I already have an SD setup with emummc working and everything configured, but if I use balena to install android, everything will be lost

could there be anyway to, for example, create an ext4 partition and then copying the data directly there without having to completly erase all my sd content?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] techjunky90:
I wonder, has anyone tried over/under volting the chipset for performance/battery life? I know it use to be possible on older tegra chipsets.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Hey, Langer Hans, you said in the other thread that touch is too sensitive and sometimes hovering finger gets recognised as touching. So I guess it's just like in Ubuntu.

Are you planning to do something with that in the future? Because in Ubuntu that oversensitive touchscreen is extremely hard to use. At least for me...
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
It's... complicated. We use a hybrid MBR approach for these images. This can be replicated manually but you'll need to fiddle with the gpt and mbr manually. Nobody has tested this with emuMMC and either way it's gonna be super messy. File based emuMMC might be easier, but that needs to improve first.

Haven't tried yet.

ByLaws already made it less sensitive with a patch not long ago. I think that's not available in Ubuntu yet tho. So in theory it should already behave better in Android as you are used to.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
Will it have a fat32 partition that horizon can use out of the box? I’m willing to mess arround with manual partitioning I can take care of that myself so long as i can make it work.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Yes, the first partition will be fat32. It is required for hekate to store the configs on. HOS will be able to read it too.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] anonxlg:
How are updates going to be handled?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
Q: How will updates be done?

A: For updates, flashable zips will be released.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] anonxlg:
i'm blind, thanks

how about passing safetynet?

if there's twrp and flashing, does flashing magisk work?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
From what i've read on this thread i think it will work.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] gavin_darkglider1:
I am currently working on Gentoo, and have been adding patches to the kernel left and right. I can build you a default ubuntu kernel with the touchscreen patches, that fix this issue. It is on my list, but gentoo and getting coreboot to build for lp0 testing has been more interesting to me then patching the kernel, but if you check my github for my switch repository, I have a bunch of patches for these things, and the default setup adds the touchscreen patches automatically.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] bylaws:
Yup, but will probably require shield-ifier (changes so android thinks device is foster - let's you get portal, geforce now etc. Masgisk works.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] GibboHull:
Really looking forward to this!

Appreciate all the work you have put into it, and fair play managing to rise above a lot of the begging and nonsense in this thread, some devs will have bitten and got frustrated, but you just kept us all in the loop!

Once deep sleep is sorted it will literally replace my broken shield tablet, not to mention it lets me play my PC games when my son wants to watch Detective Pikachu for the 100th time that week! can't wait to give it a try! Cheers again guys.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xabierd:
Is it possible to have the ROM without gapps? Any chance of including signature spoofing patches to make microg work? I don't like google apps and I don't need them on my switch.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] EpicLPer:
You don’t have to Install GApps if you don’t want to...
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
How difficult will it be to move the partitions. I want to have android in a 32 / 64 GB chunk at the end of the drive. Would you write up what needs to be done? Or make an image that has that. I can sort out DDing the partitions to the drive if you can make an image that that has a proper partition layout. I’m on a 400GB Sandisk. Basically. I want a large fat32 partition at the beginning and a 64 GB dedicated to android.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
Wait, so you guys got lp0 working? Congratulations! :)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rinzheim132:
Well, I managed to get ubuntu working having also emummc in the same sd card, should not be too different? or android works in a different way?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] clate01:
No not yet, but they release a version without deep sleep for impatient persons like me :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] jkcoxson:
This may be a dumb question, but what are the chances of getting banned from playing online and using the eShop? Should I be worried about not being able to download my games and play Splatoon 2?

Sorry, I don't know much about this at all.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
With this. Virtually zero.

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This will be quite a bit more complicated. As more than just an MBR is involved from what i understand. It may require hex editing of the gpt wich worry’s me

From what i understand no existing tools support gpt/MBR. Unless were using an extended partition for the gpt. Then it will be trivial.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] AndroidiusModdex:
Thank you devs for this amazing work!

I have some questions if you have time to awnser

1. Will it be rooted?

2. Does the usb hubs work in docked mode?

3. Will the stuff that i do on Android be saved if i quit the system? i mean like can i boot up and still have my stuff there or do i need to redo it all the time?

4. How about the capacity? can i split it between switch atmosphere and android?

5. Is it possible to have both Android and Switch atmosphere installed at the same time? Or will they not work?

thanks!
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
1 Yes. Almost certainly

2 i dont see why not

3. From what ive seen yes

4. At the moment thats not set up out of the box but i will be working on it and releasing images of my own that do that.

5 it should work as atmosphere lays on the fat32 partition that i have been talk exists already

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Could I be a tester and I’d also like to help out with it. Could also set up a discord server about this.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] designgears:
welp, haven't been here in a while :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Damn, I leave for 24 hours and there's already a ROM thread and we got an ETA.

GG Team Switchroot.