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[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Soumy1234:
That's odd. I also did an OTA but I still have Smurf Kernel. Is that normal?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pappschlumpf:
no, normally OTA replaces the kernel.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Soumy1234:
Oh. Should I reflash the Kernel?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] farhan20:
Ye since it replaced with stock kernel . So u should reflash the kernel
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
Read my post 3 above
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ecompton59:
eric anyway i can get this to work on 7t development is slow we have everything but twrp lol that fastbootd and userspace sucks for now
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] neilphetamine:
Hey guys. I'm new with this kernel and got a questions.

Already ready the thread, but to double confirm it.

Im on stock kernel. And if i flash this kernel, did i need to flash kernel, magisk and kernel again. Right?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
papps

For some reason, I do not have twrp installed somehow. After I took the latest OTA, I followed the usual steps, but I don't see recovery. My power menu doesn't ahve the advanced options, so I went into recovery through Magisk, and it booted into stock recovery (i think...2 lines of Mandarin, and a 3rd saying English. Then, an option to advance wipe). Naturally, I didn't install Smurf.

Should I follow arden's steps to sideload twrp??? And then flash magisk, reboot to make sure all is ok, and then install Smurf?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Raven_999:
Yeah, kernel, Magisk, kernel if you're on stock kernel.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
Kernel causes severe crashing no matter which ROM it is on, be it LineageOS 16.1/17.1, CarbonROM, OOS, etc. The phone will freeze, then reboot into Qualcomm crashdump mode. Unsure of why this is occuring. I flash the Kernel to both slots, boot is slot A.

As well, there needs to be a more clear explanation of what SLMK and MemCg are, and their differences and what they do, because the explainations given do not make sense in English.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
Latest Smurf kernel it's for Android 10 if you flash in Android 9 you get these crashdumps, be sure that your gpu support oc before do it.

You don't need flash the kernel in both slots, just one time and always after magisk.

Memcg helps to keep more apps in memory, slmk less but its a bit faster.

QUOTE=RedSoviet;81836819]Kernel causes severe crashing no matter which ROM it is on, be it LineageOS 16.1/17.1, CarbonROM, OOS, etc. The phone will freeze, then reboot into Qualcomm crashdump mode. Unsure of why this is occuring. I flash the Kernel to both slots, boot is slot A.

As well, there needs to be a more clear explanation of what SLMK and MemCg are, and their differences and what they do, because the explainations given do not make sense in English.[/QUOTE]
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
I am using LineageOS 17.1 (Android 10) right now. I flashed only slot A with SLMK, and after 2 hours of using it, it froze and crashed to Qualcomm Crashdump mode again. No GPU OC has been applied at all. I switched SELinux to Enforced to see if it helps. No idea what is causing the issues. ?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
Switching to SELinux Enforced didn't help. Crashed again. I switched to NOOP SQ mode and turned MQ (Multiqueue) mode off. Turned off Power Efficient Work Queue mode as well.

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Didn't help. Still froze at one point. Switching Smurfutil to Schedutil and leaving GPUBoost Input to default instead of 0, and returning WALT back to PELT. Don't know what to do at this point, but if it continues, I am sad to say this cannot be my daily driver. ?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
I narrowed it down. It is either WALT that is causing it (I am now using PELT), or it is GPU Inbut Boost being set to 0. Testing both individually to see which is causing it. I think it is WALT that has been causing this.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] MStrawder:
Using WALT resulted in random freezes and reboots for me. Sometimes I had to manually power the device off and other times it would eventually reboot itself. Switched back to PELT with the same settings and zero issues. I'm on stock ROM however. Haven't used any custom ROMs, so I can't say WALT is absolutely the culprit.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
Could be walt it was outdated, i think Erik will remove the switch between walt and pelt in future kernels and stay in Pelt.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
I can confirm the issue is coming from WALT now. When WALT is on, random input lag occurs, and some apps 'hang' for moments at a time. Eventually, the freezing does occur due to this. I changed all my other settings to what I wanted just to confirm, and none of them caused a crash besides WALT.

(As a side note, no GPU overclock or underlock was set for the testing, so it was not unstable GPU issues during my testing of where the problem was coming from.)

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Sad to hear that but might be necessary. AFAIK, WALT has better performance, but isn't playing nicely with the device at all. I have had PELT on for the past 12 hours or so, and I have not had a single crash at all. When I switch to WALT, it becomes unstable and leads to a crash 15-60 minutes later, varying.

So it is a good thing that PELT is the Kernel's default option (but obviously not that WALT can be switched to in the Smurf Config Editor menu).
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mLuca:
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[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
Walt had better performance in the past, Pelt get more updates and now it's faster than Walt, i'm looking always for best performance and help Erik to improve the performance of the kernel running bench tests every beta release.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
It does? The charts I seen were outdated then.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] tech_head:
Same issue here with 10.3.0 and 10.3.0.

Switched back to PELT and no issues.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pappschlumpf:
WALT will be removed next build. PELT definitely works better and i'm absolutely to lazy to search for the issue with WALT. I haven't used it since month and PELT is default since earliest Q releases.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] jld2k6:
Can't access files because of viglink

I can't get to the links for the Google drive folder or the mega folder because viglink.com has somehow hijacked them and redirects them to a page that doesn't exist . Even if I try to open them in another browser on my phone it doesn't work. Can somebody copy and paste the direct URL to one of the folders for me? When I first clicked on the URL Firefox warned me not to allow it but since I have used these URL's so many times before I ignored it and now every link in this thread is broken
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
right click copy link location?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1--v-sqik7YZ0R65Yjpul_jG1-HrxUzjw
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] jld2k6:
Thank you! This is the link I get when copying link location for some reason:

It's probably best not to click that link below btw

https://redirect.viglink.com/?key=e...t/kernel-smurfkernel-1-0-0-t3936434/amp/&ref=

I have no clue how some redirect service seems to have hijacked these URL's for me
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] MStrawder:
Because you have either obtained some malware or you've explicitly allowed this in the browser. Try a different browser. If that fixes it, wipe the data from FF. Otherwise start looking for suspicious processes running in the background. Oh and I edited the link in the quote to make it unclickable.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] jld2k6:
I have plenty of experience manually getting rid of the most stubborn malware on a PC, but this is Android. It even carries over to other browsers but ONLY for the links to the Smurf kernel files which is really odd. There's no explanations of how to remove something like this from Android but there's plenty of acknowledgement that people take advantage of this redirect service to plant malware on PC's. I installed Malwarebytes and passed without a single malware flag and that's about as far as I know how to go in Android lol. I'm even using unlock origin, ghostery, decentraleyes, along with a host of other addons like noscript so I'm at a loss at how clicking on this URL infected me or why it took me to a redirect service in the first place
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
Xenis or [MENTION=6879136]Toni Moon[/MENTION]

thank you, and how do we import the config?

I think that I figured it out. We unzip the config file from Toni's zip to sd/card/Smurfkernel and overwrite the existing file.

Then launch Smurk config editor, click on import and that will import the file; then click on Save and apply.

Yup?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] xenix96:
yes ?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] johnnyman25:
Is this battery friendly config or performance?

The power of Oneplus 7 Pro be with you
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
After that ou must reflash the kernel, i don't share this config because it's dangerous, has the gpu overclocked to 850 and fsync disabled, backup your /data in twrp because you can loose your data after bad restart.

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Performance, but if you don't play games you can have good battery too.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
Toni.. Thanks for the warning

How can I revert back to the default config file that came with the kernel?

Would I be able to get it from the kernel. zip file?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
just revert gpu overclock to default and set fsync on and dinamic fsync off in SCE "Smurf config editor" the other settings make your phone goes better and didnt have negative impact on battery.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] xenix96:
I got under normal usage with locked 90hz screen 7% to 10% drain.

I am really fine with it ?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
Is the Pixel 3's IRQ Balancing more efficient?

Also, no crashes anymore ever since I switched back to PELT. WALT was definitely the issue, I can 100% confirm now.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
Toni/anyone

I ask to reiterate something in the OP.

You said to reflash the kernel so as to validate the new settings. Do i just twrp, reflash the kernel and reboot? I don't need to reinstall Magisk in the steps?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
That is correct. Reboot to Recovery, reflash the Kernel, and reboot to System. That's all you need to do if you need to reflash for settings, or are updating the Kernel to a newer version. It is not going to break Magisk.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sspoko:
guys i have question i saw in download folder that there are different verions? SMLK and MCMG can anyone explain difference?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
You're gonna hear for that question...

Scroll back a few. I sort of pointed to the difference
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] sspoko:
Got it thanks mate :)
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
Does this support F2FS? Also, is the Pixel 3's IRQ Balancing more efficient to select in the configurator?

Is it possible to switch from SLMK to MemCG, and vice versa?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mLuca:
I'm having a really bad time gaming one the OnePlus 7...

When using finger to control the game, it stutters sometimes but with controller the game runs way smoother without any hiccups.

I'm not blaming this kernel by any means I'm just trying to find out if anyone else is facing this problem and if someone knows a solution for this problem.

I'm coming from an iPhone and the screen latency on this phone feels very very bad, mabey this is the problem that is causing the stutter on PUBGM and Shadowgun War Games.(edit:also CODM, MCPE, Standoff 2, run fine)

I d be very grateful if someone try this games and post back.

Or mabey my phone is broken or something from the factory but I doubt it.

(Running latest OOS and Smurf with performance profiles)

Sorry for my bad English.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
Do you have an op7 or op7 Pro? I play Black Desert at 45fps Hires and 90hz and runs really smooth with smurfkernel.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mLuca:
I have the op 7 (normal).

The game you are playing is running fine on my device on Max settings but that's not the type of game that is causing the stutter.

Games like PUBGM and Shadow gun War Games are causing it to stutter.

thanks for replying.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
Op7 normal dessipates the heat worse than Op7 Pro and if do you have 6 gb ver. you have a memory limitation for intensive games, for loading textures etc, isn't kernel related.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] RedSoviet:
Does the WiFi Fix option also fix mobile data? Mobile Data will not turn on unless I reboot the phone.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mLuca:
I said that I don't blame the kernel and I'm just looking for help.......

Even if I had the 6gb (which is more than enough for any game on the play store) it shouldn't have screen stutter.

what does RAM have to do with screen stutter anyway....
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pappschlumpf:
Nope, that's for WiFi only. After flash a zip it could happen that mobile data doesn't come up. But i have seen this effect only after flash a zip. After one more reboot it never comes back until i flash. Anyway that's super rare and not kernel related.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pappschlumpf:
Well RAM isn't completely unrelated. Slmk and memcg are used, because of holding stuff in RAM as long as possible. If you use the phone a longer time RAM could be mostly used. If you don't kill all apps, using recents, before gaming it could for sure hapoen that a game stutters. Low RAM means swap stuff out, means using ressources like CPU, means it could stutter in situation full CPU power is needed. To high OC could cause stutter too. Especially 850 is not fine on all phones. Switch to table 2 and use 800. Or just use 765, 675.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mLuca:
I did what you said (cleared RAM, set gpu frequency to 585) but the stutter is still there...

Phone is not hot at all when playinng PUBGM.

I'm on slmk version of the kernel, but again, I don't think it's a kernel problem.(same behavior on stock and elementalx kernel)

This is not lag(the cpu/gpu/ram can't keep up) but a screen stutter.(looks like frame drops but the fps counter is showing 60 fps when the stutter starts.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pappschlumpf:
Are you on 90Hz? That would cause issues like that with a 60Hz game. 45 Hz should bei suitable, if you could configure framerate in Pubg.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mLuca:
I'm using the OnePlus 7 which doesn't feature a 90hz screen like the pro version but has the same CPU.

PUBGM settings are on extreme fps (60)
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pappschlumpf:
Well if this is a general problem, with stock etc....

Anyway you may grab logs and provide these to me in the Telegram channel. Plus you may ask Toni, our pro bencher and games if he has tips to make it run better.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] HippoMan:
Doe Smurf force apps into the background, by any chance?

I'm running Smurf 3.5.0 on my OnePlus 7 Pro (GM1917) with Magisk 20.3 giving me root.

I run the Tasker utility, and I am having problems with it, because it seems to be forced into the background, even though I have battery optimization turned off for that app and all known settings configured to allow it to run in the foreground.

Is there anything in Smurf which might be moving apps like Tasker into the background in order to save battery usage? If so, is there a way to disable this?

Thank you very much in advance.

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[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] buschris:
So where is this config file located? and please don't say sdcard/SmurfKernel. that folder doesn't exist. and no search helps. the app does nothing with no config file
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] dipleg:
if you absolutely cannot find the config file in your sdcard directory, it may have been installed elsewhere. in either case, it's easier to use the included configuration editor APK (https://drive.google.com/file/d/12N9BNSgWhJ8CmPCr8YW6EKIlIeve2oU5/view?usp=drivesdk) that allows you to modify parameters from a comfy gui.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] buschris:
Had to install 3 or 4 times with magisk in between, now it works.

Weird
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Aballamis:
Could somebody enlighten me as to the name of this performance test app?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Didit_Anshari:
Its Antutu, recently taken down from Playstore for some reason
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mholloway:
Which file do I flash there's 2 in mega download file for op7pro, got it .. running great with xXx.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pratzyushd:
It's because their privacy policy was identical to the one all the Cheetah mobile apps have, and CM has been removed from the app store for their privacy policy

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Just look in the Telegram group or on this thread for SLMK Vs MEMCG. That'll tell you which one to flash
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] r0fless:
Any users that got this kernel to work on 7T Pro?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mikek753:
HDMI video over type-c doesn't work

It worked in 3.4.0 just fine

It works in current stock 10.3.1

But, stopped when I installed 3.5.0

Any ideas how to fix it?

Thanks
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] mani169:
I want to flash this kernel over elementalx, how can I do it? Do i need to clean flash (format data and storage) or can I just normally flash this kernel over it.

OP7 Pro With Twrp OOS OPEN BETA 10 (No Root)
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] SirAndr3w:
If u want a clean install just flash stock boot.img or dirty flash the ROM before install this kernel
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toni Moon:
if you come from custom: kernel - magisk - kernel

stock: magisk - kernel
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] funkyirishman:
Hi

How can I tell what release I have installed. It just has version 1.6 in info on settings are there any updates and do I just flash updates via Magisk?

Cheers
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] pratzyushd:
Stable updates are on this XDA thread and the beta updates are in the Telegram group. To flash updates, NEVER use Magisk. Either flash kernel, Magisk, kernel in TWRP or use something like FKM or EXKM to flash the zip file for the kernel.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Honda21gg:
IV the 7 pro 5g and I got bootloop with magisk kernel and magisk still no good
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] dipleg:
am i an idiot for wanting to believe that this kernel should be updated regularly as we get iterative OOS releases? i have a friend who is using omega kernel on his 6T and he says he receives regular updates. Am I missing something?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] ztotherad:
telegram group bro
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] tech_head:
The problem is telegram want's your phone number.

Any app that requires my phone number is an app, I will not install.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Bipop1:
Can You tel me Group.? I cant find.

Ok. I find it ?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Honda21gg:
Does it work with 7 pro 5g
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] GeekMcLeod:
Look in OP. There's a link kinda close to the top.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] koboltzz:
What sense does it make if you publicly offer a telgram channel, but you are banned after 30 seconds just for joining?

Edit: Okay, your anti-bot bot was sleeping
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] fairyshacker:
how to use above config? i replace it in /sdcard/SMURFKERNEL & went into smurf config editor & import config.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] moomoon03:
Hey anyone face issues with prime video playback with horizontal lines while playing video?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] brown1178:
Which one to use 3.5.0.slmk or 3.5.0.memcg? What's the difference?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] dipleg:
This is from the dev:
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] brown1178:
Thank you!
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] cultofluna:
But any chat app ( WhatsApp , viber, telegram etc..) requires phone number.....no big deal...
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toutatis_:
What's up with these ROMs/kernels only available on Telegram these days? Last available build on Google Drive/MEGA was released on January 24th. I guess there are newer builds. So no Telegram account = no kernel for you?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] JohnTheFarm3r:
Exactly. After all that hard work from developers, if people can't at least create a telegram account and get those files, well... Potato.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toutatis_:
Well, it's not just about "creating an account" because Telegram requires your phone number to register. I'd rather miss some ROMs and kernels than giving my phone number (and anything I say) to Telegram.

I don't see the point of going 100% Telegram anyway. What are the benefits apart from excluding privacy minded users? Why Telegram and not Riot for instance? maybe it's more convenient to use than old-school forums like XDA but is it worth it? I don't think so.

Havoc has a Telegram channel for announcements and support and yet you can download the ROMs on SourceForge. This is a good compromise in my opinion.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] nabril15:
What's wrong with the xda forums??
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Lossyx:
XDA is not as it used to be for one, and on telegram you have more direct contact with the developer (s).

This is how I interpret it.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] biggiesmalls657:
What ever happened to receiving the gifts that the gracious developer's give us In stead of constantly asking for help when our phone bootloops or explodes?
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Grander0:
Lmfao guys the dev didn't move to Telegram exclusively, he's just releasing beta versions for testing there and stable versions for daily use here.
[OnePlus 7 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other D] Toutatis_:
Oh, ok. There hasn't been an update here in this thread for a while, whereas new builds were quite frequent in the past. Hence my assumption everything was moved to Telegram.