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[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
I agree. I too have been asking this as I was very eager to try this out in my school holidays as well. Personally, I am sure everybody could live with bad battery life for a couple of releases.

I so badly want to get my hands on a release but as a *great (cough) man once said:

patience

But really if we look back to all other switch related releases, heck even most other computer programs, none of them were completely perfect upon first release, sooooo please?

(I had to make a new account as hamdan198 wasn’t working just to say this!)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] nsip4ever:
I forgot all about this, I thought the idea sounded amazing but figured it was another cool concept that would eventually fall by the wayside. It's great to see how much progress has been made on this. I'm probably going to forget about this again since I don't often follow the scene but hopefully when it goes public it'll make enough waves to get my attention again.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
Hey, this seems very interesting:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65001865&postcount=12

It a (successful) attempt and tutorial to unblock widevine restrictions :fingers-crossed:
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
Deep sleep is indeed important, but I would love to try android even without it... Try some games, mess around a bit with it on my switch
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
This seems great. Honestly Netflix and Moonlight streaming are what im looking forward to the most.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
We are currently leaning towards releasing a beta once lp0 fully works. That's all I can say regarding an ETA. We're certainly not here to just tease and never release ;) It will be released eventually and everything will be open source once it is so others can contribute and build upon it.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Wait, so with lp0 working it would still be a beta?!?!

I thought you guys had everything ironed out, except sleep?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
They're still working on a proper installer payload.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Rvby1:
Dang, alright! Do you think the android system would play nice with the partition-based emuMMC created by Atmosphere?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
I'd need to check, but fairly sure it would work. Given the emummc partition isn't really a partition in itself. The only issue I see is that hekate may or may not like the hybrid mbr + emummc combo. But fairly sure something can be done about this if it doesn't work already.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Learsy:
Cuando cuando cuando? me hago viejo esperando U_U
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Todavía están trabajando en algunos problemas en este momento, pero anticipo que el lanzamiento llegará más pronto que tarde.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] mars0124:
I love that you say "just" tease. I see your signature block. Admit it! Though it's not the only reason you're posting, you ARE enjoying the teasing! Confess!

I'm very excited to see the fruits of your labour and am looking forward to testing/providing feedback. Thanks for the work you do.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
I'll never not enjoy the teasing ? But yeah it's not the point and I hate teasing but never releasing as much as you and everyone else.

Alas I personally haven't worked on it at all this week due to other projects needing some attention and now I caught a cold ?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] mars0124:
I have four, soon five children. There's not enough time in a day to do everything we want, in life. Though if you would consider a Polyphasic sleep schedule then you could have more time to do with as you wish.

Drink lots of fluids and get better soon.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
So I assume it wont be released anytime soon?

I wanted to try it in my school holidays :).

Anyway, get better soon Langerhans ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] DobleC_:
Guys, stop being so annoying, the developers are working and they've told you that there are no ETAs, stop flooding, in the end you hide important posts.

Thank you.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
While I do agree with what you're saying, there's no need to be rude about it. Many people are anticipating the release of this project, myself included. But guys, pushing for an ETA isn't going to make the devs work any faster. All it does is pester the developers and as [MENTION=6472732]doblec[/MENTION] said burry the more important posts.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] rinzheim132:
he wasn't rude at all imo, and people rly need to be patient.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] orangekid:
At the same time all the arguing about no ETAs clogs the thread just as much as people asking for it.

Ultimately I think it's a sign of how excited we all are for switch development and should be seen as a positive.

When nobody ever asks for an ETA then we know there's not as much interest..
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
So im assuming this would be possible with switchroot??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vlt9gFqGRM
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Yup, Nvidia Game Stream and Moonlight have both been said to work!
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
Wow. So i know 4k won't be possible but would we get at least 1080p resolution when docked? And is it even possible to use say a xbox one controller with this? (Controller plugged up to dock via usb cable)

Im so ready to test this out lmao. I've been waiting on getting a shield for sometime now and was almost ready to bite during prime day but decided to wait cause a new version is supposedly coming out soon and i still don't have a 4k tv yet. But if i can just use my switch that's incredible.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] internetdude01:
4k is possible with the dock, at least it is with Ubuntu.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] matssa:
Edit/// Nevermind didn't see you were talking about the shield and not switch (was gonna say that the new switch are patched and all)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
The HDMI port on the Switch's dock is HDMI 1.4a, which can support up to 4K at 30FPS. So for 4K movies and such it should work fine (since most movies run at 24FPS). As for the controller, from what I can tell the USB ports on the dock act as USB OTG adapters in Android. So if that's the case the Xbox One controller should work fine. If you have an Xbox One S or Xbox One X controller you can even connect wireless via bluetooth.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Hey, remind me again why usb OTG (direct - via adapter) is still not working? I have been keeping up with progress but still don't know why the great developers of this scene can't figure out how to do this ;)

I mean TX managed it. If we could have that as a feature than that would be so awesome! :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Oh. My. God. My dear friend...

1. Of course they could, but there are more urgent issues to work out right now. It's not like they can't figure it out. It's just not top priority for Switchroot, just like rotation sensor, ambient light sensor support or wired joycons support. They want to release Android without these options at first, and then maybe work it out later. And IMHO this is the best solution, mostly because we are slowly freaking out from all this waiting.

2. Really? Team Xecuter managed to get OTG support in Android on Switch? No. They managed to get partial USB MSD support in Horizon. Totally different things.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
Guys give us good news ?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
Ahh ok cool didn't know that.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
I know, I mean i was just exclaiming the fact that TX managed it as wasn't there some sort of sensor in switch that didnt accept input from usb port without a current? I dunno :)

Anyway, from what I can see it seems like switchroot wants to get android pretty perfect before releasing. Ditto on the madness though :D, checking this forum every morning and evening cannot be healthy! ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] orangekid:
Would we be able to hook up a switch Pro controller?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Since the Switch Pro Controller uses Bluetooth to connect, this should be possible. I tried this with my phone awhile back and it paired with no issues, recognized as a gamepad. There were some finicky problems with latency and such, same as the Joy-Cons. But I hear in more recent versions on Android that this is fixed.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Hey, i found this.

If we are going to use the switch as a tablet, this solves the problem of the rails being uncomfortable when joycons are not attached :D I don't have a 3d printer else i would print these!

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3219338
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
A first beta releases to the users for testing with week?

thanks again to the dev's for the works.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
There is not etas, there's only one bug that needs to be solved, and finishing the installer, no ones knows , could be this week could be next month...
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Two bugs as I found out yesterday. The GPU bug still happens. And also we noticed that even with Minerva we get hangs after wake up if we use any periodically trained memory frequencies.

As said earlier we’re going to release a beta once lp0 works. Given the nature of the blockers being bugs you can’t put an estimate on them. Not sure why that is so hard to understand :D If it were features, I could estimate „Well this takes me about 2 weeks to code“. But for a bug? I estimate that I’ll have the right idea in about 46 minutes :P
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
It's not hard to understand why don't you know when bugs will be fixed.

It's hard to understand why do you keep insisting on waiting for full lp0 support, when it gives you so much trouble and is that problamatic, and people told you they may as well have just s2 sleep for now and just a few hours of sleep is no issue at all.

You can even remove sleep functionality entirely, drop Minerva and leave RAM at 1600MHz, I know you are some kind of perfectionists, but release it in that state and users will be happy for now. I can guarantee it, and you know it's true. Maybe you have another reasons, and user satisfaction isn't number one priority for you? :)

And one more thing if you don't mind me asking - why is it still closed, private source? You know there are people who could help, right? Maybe not with Switch-specific issues, but they could tweak Android, add various features, polish it a little before releasing?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Banner24:
Shame on you.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Okay, shame on me. Sorry for being so unthankful.

But you shouldn't be surprised that people react so harsh.

For example - Atmosphere was open source from the start, it was released a year ago. EmuNAND was released last month.

Where would we be right now if ReSwitched kept their source private, and held release until emuNAND was implemented? Literally nowhere. Right now we would be discovering how to run NROs.

One team's actions and decisions affect the whole hacking scene.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
Personally I am a simple user, and I'm happy with what is proposed at the moment (for the rest,i will waiting the fix).

This is just my personal opinion among so many others on the net
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Banner24:
When people react harshly then they are rude.

This is their project, they make the effort of this project as far as they think necessary.

They'll have their reasons why they do it the way they do,

you have nothing to do with how they do it.

If they say that they still want to have something done before they make the first release,

that's the way it is.

We can be happy that they are working on the project.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Sure, I know that. That's why I said I'm sorry, I admitted I'm ungrateful. It's totally their decision and I'm not entitled to anything. I'm 100% with you on that. And if I sounded rude, my bad.

With my previous posts I just wanted to point out that I don't understand their decisions, and if it was my project, I would do it the other way. But it's not, so I'm out, I've said what I wanted to say and I don't want to argue anymore.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] matssa:
Fyi, some projects are also stopped because people can't stop asking ETAs and giving lessons out like "I would do it like this and that". Food for thought for next time (hopefully this won't happen on this project or else you would have made a lot of people really angry as ****). Just be grateful and be patient. This isn't paid work, there isn't any planning or budgeting or lifecycle management
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Nah, fear not, the "eta wen?" doesn't really bother me (can't speak for the others tho). I have looked into the gpu problem again today and that didn't lead anywhere. I'll probably propose a beta without lp0 to the others at this point, cause fixing this might end up longer than we'd like... (But take that with a grain of salt as I have no idea what I'm doing in regards to the gpu anyway ;) )
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
Thanks
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] CPVideoMaker:
that's great to hear! Can't wait
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] RizzoS:
Thank you so much! Hopefully the other members agree on releasing a beta without lp0. If we are using lakka and ubuntu we will use this.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
I'm glad you guys considering releasing it without the lp0

All my friends are waiting on this.

I love that you guys communicate so much, most dev's don't care.

I have one question, does the mic works when using headphones?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
No idea about the mic, I think I heard it doesn't yet, but don't quote me on it.

And slow with the celebrations lol. I merely brought up the idea, it's ultimately not my decision ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] p4rma:
Great work! Can not wait until it's released, really looking forward to remote play! :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
Really great to hear.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Thank you sooo much Langerhans! :D

Now for ETA on: "Wen you ask others to release android early? ;)"
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
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Well, so no flaming on online games haha
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
I'd honestly be down with a test build that lacks lp0 support. While deep sleep is a pretty big factor in daily usability, I doubt a whole lot of folks are going to be using this as their main multimedia device (as this point). I'll probably just watch movies and stream games from my PC, and I tend to carry around an external battery so a lack of deep sleep won't be a huge issue for me personally.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] nielo360:
I know this was asked before so just out of curiosity are the shield tablet native games like borderlands 2/mount and blade or Shield tv port of MGS revengence working on this port in case you had a chance to try? Or would that require specific modifications.. I think with gl tools some people have run doom 3 and half life 2 on snapdragons.. but not borderlands 2
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] dt92:
just wanna get my hands on it :D what an awesome Projekt (=

love the idea android makes much more easy for the average person, thinks everyone wants to join:D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] tansoftware:
Totally agree with [MENTION=9991426]thequickfox123[/MENTION]

I don't understand the reason behind closing the development of this Android release. I've been involved in porting android to multiple devices including x86, mips, and arm architecture versions. When I asked to be a tester/contributor, I was told that testers were chosen and they aren't taking new ones. I keep reading your posts and the challenges you come across yet I'm unable to help or contribute anything because of how closed this development is.

Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful and thankful for everything that the developers have contributed thus far, but I keep asking myself why don't they open the development so others can look at those challenges and offer help. No one here wants to take credit from anyone where it's due, but just open up the development so others can help you rather than shut everyone out, and delay the release until you have a 100% fully functional version on your hands which is absolutely uncommon. Even big mobile manufactures release incomplete Android versions and then release updates to complement that version later on. They don't hold off the release until everything works %100.

No disrespect to anyone here, but let me share with you what the community is whispering behind closed doors. Some people believe that the delays in releasing Android for the Nintendo Switch are intentional and are pushed by Nintendo / Nvidia themselves. The way this Android version is being developed is not normal. Closing the development of an open source OS is unheard of and is not how the Android community works.

These are my thoughts on the matter and again, I meant no disrespect or offense to anyone here.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
I think the beta release is for this night or tomorrow(or for september 2022 lol).

Ps.I'm joking of course,i'm just excited it's release one day.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] matssa:
Hey guys little advice to the devs, I suggest you open another thread where you give the different status of the dev and porting and such so that you can leave this thread to discussions about eta, complaining about closed sources, everything that isn't technical or helpful.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
While I do agree with what you're saying, to be fair this is a discussion thread. As long as people aren't fighting with each other or being outwardly rude, I don't see the with problem disusing with something in a thread meant for discussion. However, like you said it may be a wise idea for the devs to create a new thread strictly for development updates and such. I've seen many other developers go that route on XDA, and it tends to work out best for everyone.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] saentis:
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[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] orangekid:
Even though I'm here as an enthusiast, I've also kept an eye as a moderator.

It seems like OP is cool with whatever discussion, including ETA and whatever so I'm basically letting anything not obviously rude fly.

Plus as you say it's a discussion thread not a Dev thread.

Overall though I'm excited as an Android and Switch nut and if I'm being honest I check this thread daily hoping for a release too.

But I do get the devs wanting something close to usable to release, I just remember all those android to the HTC Touch Pro2 and subsequently HD2 and how buggy those alpha releases were but how much we all loved and kept daily flashing and working hugs.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Ah man, I remember my Nexus 7 2013 and how I'd flash anything I could find on that thing. There was this project called MultiROM that allowed you to boot multiple things without having to wipe the device each time. Firefox OS, Ubuntu Touch, and like 3 different other Android ROMs I'd just screw around with. It was just fun to test different things in their various states of development.

While the Switch isn't really a multimedia device like the Nexus 7 was, I kinda feel the same joy messing around with homebrew and installing other things like Ubuntu and Lakka on it. While those are pretty cool to mess around with, Android could actually be pretty useful in making the Switch into kind of a "full-fledged" tablet. And, game streaming from my PC to the Switch via Moonlight or something while I'm laying in bed would be amazing.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
Another teaser???

https://t.co/8Jp4LFh3WE
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Alexkudos:
Seriously,it's not a time to post a video in twitter lol......it's time to release a first beta version(or alpha)no?

And thanks again for the dev for the great work.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
That video wasn't meant to be a teaser, I mean it's obvious we can run Discord this way. Was more of a nod towards discord as the community had been wanting them to bring a client to the Switch for a while.

Also, I did bring up the idea of an earlier release but people didn't seem too keen on it.

I think what I'll try next is to add i2c dumping to some places to compare PMIC states before, during and after wakeup. Cause it seems that the GPU just doesn't get powerd up. Or something like that. If someone ever worked with a Tegra X1 and warmbooting it, feel free to ping me ;) In TWRP the issue does not happen cause that doesn't use the same graphics system.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
I am no expert but, like many, many others have said and argued before, why haven't you open-sourced it yet? Maybe we can progress faster towards a release if others could actually have a build to work and help you guys with? :)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] redasentier:
Please, share the android download link on nintendo switch

Please, share the android download link on nintendo switch
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
We all wish man, we all wish... :crying:

;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Guys, I don't mean to sound rude here but allow me to restate a few things that have been said.

1) While [MENTION=576676]langer hans[/MENTION] said he was open to the idea of an early public release lacking lp0 support and the remaining bug fixes, the rest of the Switchroot Team couldn't come to an agreement on this topic. So as tedious as it may be, please wait for the full release.

2) While I am a big believer in open-source software development and personally think that's the optimal way to do things, the Switchroot Team may feel otherwise and want to keep development of the project tight-knit and between only the members of the team (at least for now). Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall them stating that once the initial release has been rolled out the project they were planning posting a devDB up on GitHub.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] hamdan198:
I, also, don't mean to be rude (fearfully looking at orangekid ;) ).

But tell me one reason why they can't open source what they have done currently, I mean it's not like they are going to make less profit or something, because last i heard they don't make money from this :D or loose credit