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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] thyphon:
AP 5beta litle bug

Hi AP Team,

When i use the rotate screen icon into the HTC Home menu, the screen rotate only to the left...and can not make a 360 deg.

We are oblige to go into the setting menu and configure the screen in landscape to have it in the righ position...

(sorry for my english, it not my mother language)

Can you make a correction before the final version of the AP5.

Just a litle remark...the commmanger in real VGA 96 dpi is not usefull !

i have to used the PK 2.0 Kaiser 10B Comm Man for VGA to resolve this problem..

But the wifi and bth are ok in this version

Many thanks for your job
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] koh84:
What to do if I brick my Athena

Hi guys, need some help here. I tried to upgrade my athena from AP 3.0 to AP 5.0 Beta today. I was not sure what is spl 3.5, so I carry on upgrading it and I got stucked in the RED, GREEN, BLUE screen. I have no choice but to try to upgrade to the "full" version of Windows Mobile 6.1 for spl 1.2 and 3.5.

The upgrade was successful. At first, my athena can boot up normally, but after undertaken the screen align process, my athena then run the following commands,

sdautorun.exe

sdconfig.txt

auto reset

it then keeps on running auto configuration and the above commands and rebooting again and again. I can't stop the athena from rebooting. However, I can have access to the microdrive of the athena though microsoft activeSync during the screen align process.

So what has basically gone wrong with my athena and how do I fix it. PLS help!!! I have no idea on how to fix it. Thank you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] beginner:
GPS no accurate

I have three problems with gps (configured as described the gps programs and hw port, to com4 and com8 in other posts for AP 4)

- google maps cannot find any satellite

- tomtom is not accurate in the position (find satellites but not in the correct situation)

- no possible to update the position with quickgps

this is very bad for me, I cannot use the navigation.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
Agreed, Google Maps will NOT find any sats, but I'm not 100% sure about TomTom though, the only discrepancy is that it showed me on the opposite side of the road, but I can forgive that.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
Go in to the sat configuration for either Google Maps or Tom Tom and manually set it to com 4, 4800 baud and it should be fine (I have tested this in gog mps and used it on AP4 with no issues).

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
koh84, if you have not upgraded to the 3.50 spl you can't run AP4/5 it is required, you may be able to revert to AP3 if you are still on SPL1.xx (the SPL upgrade is required because it re-partitions the rom space to allow for the larger AP4/5 roms).

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] irus:
if your device keeps rebooting you did not brick your device you just installed a rom with the wrong spl version. if you have cid unlocked your device and you have not upgraded to ap4 then you are still on 1.2 so at this point you either need to install ap3 dual or wm6.1 3 diff sizes or if you think you would like ap4 or ap5 better then you first have to install ap4, as i don't think the apteam has come out with a stand alone spl 3.5 upgrade, then you can install ap5 beta, just to let you know pawel said he is coming out with ap5 spl 1.2 in either case good luck and don't be afraid to ask questions ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
Dangit, I have an application that allows me to make int'l calls through my phone, through my VoIP provider. This program worked 100% just fine with AP4 and even the crappy irus ROM (no offense irus, but the base rom sucks). Something had to have changed for it not to work anymore. The program is called MobileTalk from http://mobiletalk.packet8.net/. I need this application to work as my girlfriend is in Japan right now, and we need to talk.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] kendedel:
Ringing Tone

Installed the AP 5 Beta-Wonderfull!!

One problem I found so far. The contacts under 96dpi in Real VGA comes out blank. Any suggestions on how to make it work? Also, how and where do i put the wav files that I want to use if I want to add to the list of choices under sounds?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
I am doing mine with HP 6910P and also with a desktop USB dongle. I have not had time to try it with AP5 yet. I have been chasing other bugs, but I will at some point today.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
When manilla is disabled the incoming ringtone works but it does not work when it is enabled. Also the ringtone for the incoming call revert back to the default after the first incoming call instead of keeping your custom one.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Okay, well I guess that confirms the bluetooth file transfer is broken with this build.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] beginner:
gps troubles

definitively cannot use the rom: gps position is not accurate !!!, googlemaps cannot find the gps and the quickgps doesn't work.

Please, other AP5 users, is it working for you or not? It's being very bad experience that you cannot use navigator. And the most stupid thing is that it works but cannot position you correctly.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] NeilM:
Have you tried reverting to the 'hardware only' GPS settings?

Open the GPS Control Panel and set Program Port and Hardware Port to 'None'; then untick 'Allow Windows to manage GPS' ; save the changes, force a shutdown/restart with the power button, and open TomTom (if you have it) or GoogleMaps. In TTN, set the GPS to 'Other NMEA Receiver', on COM5 at 38400 Baud. Now go outside and see if it picks up any signal (remember it can take up to 15 minutes for cold start).

If that works, then the problem is with the WM6 GPSID; if it doesn't work, then there is a ROM/Radio problem.

Interested to see how you get on, as I want to UG to AP5, but need SatNav on holiday next week :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pdajoy:
GPS working, just unable to download gps data.

cold start takes about 25 mins.

other discovery,

1. sometime menu icon display disappear

2. contact details no show, normalized using pocket informat

3. occasional hang at Windows mobile splash screen

4. GPS baud rate setting went back to default (4800)

so far AP5 beta works pretty well. Great job, thanks AP team.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] QAN:
ringtone

@Ipsl2000

I do not have the ringtone problem you mentioned.. Perheps I used an mp3 ringtone. I my case when the dialer is active and I mute the sound by turning my device up side down, I connot restore the sound. When I install the vuevlo patch and disable diamond vuevlo muting stops working and I do not have any ringtone problems anymore.

Strange is the fact that all my other sound which are wav or wma files do not allways work. Most of the time the default sound is played.

Concerning the GPS it is nessecary that QuickGPS updates the GPS data at least ones. Without updating getting a fix takes minutes and after updating less than a minute. . I tried to use TomTom with AP5 without the QuickGPS data. It needed almost 15 minutes to get an initial fix ccmparing to AP4 with QuickGPS only 50 seconds.

Could someone post the AP4 QuickGPS cab so we can get rid of the new one? I will try to extract it from the irus wm6.1 rom version..

QAN
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
QuickGPS does not work it connects then grts up to 73% then says connection failed - how do you get it to work?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
using the registry settings from earlier roms(see page 7 of this thread) I can get to 100% then fail, the new reg entries for quickgps are for different file than the old roms.

theres also a kaiser thread on it here, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=333275
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] koh84:
Thank you so much irus!! I will try to flash it over to AP4 before I proceed to AP5. I have flashed it with vanilla and wm6.1 but found out that the tcpmp + flash bundle video is not working. So I decided to try my luck on AP5 then. Cheers!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] kendedel:
SPB Shell

Is there any fix to make the SPB Mobile Shell work properly at 96dpi mode?:confused:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] QAN:
QuickGPS

I tried to get it working by making a cab and installing the QuickGPS version of irus his wm6.1 rom. I cannot get it started because it keeps saying the executable is not signed. It looks like the new QuickGPS which is also on the Kaiser is different from the old one. tweaking the registry doesnot help. I think only the old one will work on te athena.

QAN
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] sergiopi:
Not now, may be in the next future
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] pdajoy:
Cannot kill Data Connection

after surfing via GPRS, comm manager not responding, only possible by soft reset. Perhaps just mine, anyone experienced same issue?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Rabia:
maybe a dumb question but would you have SPL 1.2 of AP5? and is it based on 6.1 windows coz i really like ur ROM and look and feel and software but i like the SMS chat type of 6.1, actually i like the phone history filter of 6.0 and sms chat on 6.1
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
Why not just update to SPL3.5?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] karneson:
Great beta Pawel, glad to see some ap4 isues being addressed. The diamod stuff is good. I played with th leaked version of manilla, which is on the kaiser forums. It runs like a slide show on non accelerated devices. While it looks cool, I stil think SPB is a better comprimise.

Trying to turn winmo into the IPhone is always going to have issues due to differences in the touch screen and the underlying WinMo OS. What is the old saying about lipstick on a pig? Seriously, I love Win Mo, but it isnt for everybody, and fancy animation doesnt make my email any more interesting or my wife any prettier...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Pawell,

Just a suggestion for consideration.

May be this manila stuff should be removed, if it is that unuseable. There are so many other more elegant solutions available already, such as iLauncher/sbsh pocket weather/spb time/spb phone suite combination. If you use them in 192 dpi, it is extremely finger friendly. You won't need stylus.

However, the HTC touchflo should be kept. HTC touchflo is probably the single thing that I look forward to the most in terms of user interface improvement. I like the new address book too.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
update on the gps front, using the default ap5 quickgps registry settings it failed at 77%, but there was a new file in /temp folder.

I copied the xtra.bin from temp to windows with no apparent benefit, then changed to the older reg ones and got to the 100% point in quickgps but still failed.

copied the 2 new files that appeared (the ini and ephemeris files) from /temp to /windows and fired up memory map using the default port 5 at 38400 (not manage ticked in external gps cpl). 8 satelitte full fix in 4mins 13 seconds, so it's working here.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] beginner:
Hi fards, could you explain more about your solution in order to repeat on my device? I don't understand when you say "fired up memory map... "

thanks.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lidan25:
hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena

hi how do i get SPL 3.5 to run on my Athena? so i can flsh up the new Rom ?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
memory map is uk based ordnance survey mapping, I use it at work

so step 1

check temp folder to see if theres anything in there

if youve used quickgps with the stock ap5 settings then there will be a xtra.bin file in there, its likely to be 35k or so in size, dont know what it does but that's what this version of quickgps tries to get

if you haven't got it then run quickgps and get it. copy the bin file to windows

step 2

change the registry settings for quickgps as on page 7 to the ones that look for emepheris.

step3

reboot and fireup quickgps

hopefully it'll get to 100% this time but likely still fail, and there will be two new files in /temp a .ini file and a .ee file copy them to windows

step 4

go into settings system and external gps. set software to none hardware to 5 and 38400. untick let windows manage gps

step 5

reboot (may not be needed but hey ho) and start up your chosen gps prog

set to com5 and 38400

hth
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
So nice and simple then....

;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Does this solution survive soft reset? I guess it won't survive hard reset, right? Can this be made into a cab file at least?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eagle 1:
Even though I cannot get QuickGPS to work like everyone else, My Tom Tom still works fine. Cold start and it takes about 5 minutes, but then works fine. Even with QuickGPS working in previous roms, my athena was never much faster on cold start though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Good point.

Actually I never use quick gps myself.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
That solution will survive a reboot and not hard reset. Also it will only last for a few days. I personally use the GPStest and it pretty much does the same thing as QuckGPS in a different way and better to me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Brau0303:
I like quickgps but i have been using google maps with gps manually set and other than it taking a few minutes to get a fix, i have had no issues. Not installed Tom Tom yet.

Cheers

BR
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] NeilM:
I still don't really understand the obsession with QGPS :)

At best it improves TTFF by a few seconds to a minute; at worst it corrupts the GPS memory chip (if it gets errouneous position data from the cell towers) and screws position totally.

Current Radio ROMs get a TTFF so much faster than the original ones; even back in the Artemis days, QGPS made only a marginal difference.

The best way of obtaining a fast fix is to keep the data up to date by running a sat nav program of some sort every 1-2 days, which means you effectively get a warm start each time, which is probably why running apps such as GPSTest appear to be beneficial.

With AP4/Radio 1.57, and running iGO8, I now get a full cold start in about 3-5 minutes running the hardware only (COM5) connection.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Abram:
Any update on the status of vanilla or spl1.20?

May I make a suggestion (outrageous though it may sound) but one that will work for the good of the community? We have a new cook on the block with time on his hands who is willing to help with the athena development. I know he's still got a few rough edges (but that can be smoothed). Yes, I'm talking about Irus, who has already proven himself by giving us a few good ROMs.

Can the head cook (Pawel) and our Technical specialists (Olinex) take the opportunity to maybe train him and use his services? I'm sure we can work together to get fantastic ROMS for our devices, in ALL FLAVORS (SPLs 1.20 OR 3.50)!

Please think about it guys, we can harness our resources and be a lot more productive together as a TEAM.

OK, now flame me for suggesting it :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] darkjedi:
Do you REALLY think he'll release for 1.2 SPL? NO! But apparently you don't understand the need for 3.5 SPL, so all of this is wasted on you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Karmarock:
I completely agree with your point.

Through sharing better results can be reached with much satisfaction for everyone (if the sharers are honest! ;))

This should be the forum's nature.

If you do not agree it means you work for HTC! :p
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
sorry to be honest i am being overwhelmed by all the new diamond builds. i have already moved today to the new 19588 and have fixed most of the bugs caused by switching to the new build. there will be a 1.2 spl based vanilla rom. next beta will for real at same time be vanilla.

for the manilla fanatics:

here is the new manilla running on my htc athena. it is made running using the libgles_cm.dll someone provided in the kaiser forums way back when the beta was leaked. the latest dlls from the latest build dont work at this time on the athena. we have a different graphics chipset. options are to find the athena's acceleration drivers and edit manilla to use those/create new ones for the athena/or modify the diamond ones to work on the athena. Also, youtube is shown in the video. no picture but sound works.

Video
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] kendedel:
Hi Pawel,

Just want to congratulate you on the beta version of the AP 5. I find this rom very stable. Wifi connection is good, bluetooth connectivity is excellent with my blueant v12 headset and is so much faster than the AP 4. I dont use gps since its not available in our country so no problems for me whatsoever. What I would like to request, only if it would be possible, is that if there is a way to make the spb mobile shell work properly in 96dpi in realvga. Anyway, again, my big congratulations for the fantastic work and more power!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bobcatt:
Hi kendedel

I'm also interested in spb software, but I've read in another thread that spb mobile shell is not compatible at the moment in 96dpi mode.

Maybe "we" should contact the developers to correct this :)

Anyway, a huge thanks to Pawel and his great work !
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] jsp91470:
GPS not available in your country?

Of course it is. It's available everywhere in the world, unless you live in Iraq or some other war zone where the US Government is blocking it. Otherwise you can use GPS anywhere-- it's satellite-based, so it will work anywhere you can see the sky!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] kendedel:
I believe it is indeed available. Just dont find any use for it since our country is not that big to get lost and I basically stay in the metropolis like, for all my life. Anyway, maybe in the near future Ill find the use for it and by that time, Im sure the AP 5 is fully functional and maybe superceeded by AP6-he3x
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kenjari:
Im just a little confused! There is going to be an AP5.o vanilla spl1.2 before an AP5.0 vanilla spl3.5? No harm intended, just a lil lost! I remember reading that cmonex had a beta to downgrade (correct me if im wrong) but is that the reason why spl1.2 vanilla will come before a spl3.5 vanilla? Im asking because I am on AP4. and I am actually pretty cooh with it (outside of Softmaker and Opera dont function) but I am excited about the Vanilla! I just wish i didnt have to downgrade just to test vanilla! Oh well!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
hmm i was going to just make a vanilla for spl 1.2 but i guess it will be 1 extra minute to make a spl 3.5 vanilla so i can make both.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] apap:
Yes, please make a vanilla for spl 3.5 as well. It will be much appreciated.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] :
Great, i still don't know the benefit of spl3.5, but if a vanilla AP5 SPL3.5 is releases i'll be very happy then.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
What is deal with Vanilla cry out this early in the game

This is my 2 cents on this Vanilla and 1.2spl availability. I personally would not release any of them until we actually have a stable ROM with little to no bugs (very close to final AP5). Essentially you will now need to support and troubleshoot 2-3 different ROMs and may not make since at this point of the game. You are going to find things that works in one and not the other. What's the since on doing this so early in the game.

To me it means you will be spending more time working on different versions of the ROM instead of concentrating on one and fixing the bugs. The diamond builds have introduced a few issues and I would like to see them fixed so we can really put the ROM to work and see how well it is holding up. Essentially when you fix an issue, you will need to check in 2-3 different places to ensure it was fixed. Unless this team as a lot of time to burn right now. Also, I know this is not the only project this team is working on.

I do agree the vanilla is needed but I am questioning the timing on when this should be made available.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] apap:
For many of us the Advantage is an important tool and having a decent, if not perfect, vanilla will make our life a lot more comfortable. If the vanilla beta is near completion many will be happy to use it while waiting for the final and most stable version. Obviously, only Pawel knows what this means about the demands on his time, and he will be the judge, but since many of us are in limbo in the post ap3 era any improvements on ap5 will be music to our hands.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pawel062:
as was said in the above posts, at this stage maintaining 2 roms will be difficault. so i will fix a few more bugs in the full rom before making a vanilla. once they are fixed then it is a matter or me removing packages from my kitchen and we have a vanilla.

cmonex and ltxda agree on this and i think the rest will too. mostly the issues seem to be with the quickgps not working and some application still not working. the quickgps is most important for those using gps.

few more days is what you all should expect but dont be suprised if by the weekend we will have a new beta and vanilla. depends how fixing bugs goes.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lpsi2000:
Good, I am looking forward to a new beta build.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] NeilM:
Please don't take this the wrong way, but if the Advantage is that important to you as a tool, then perhaps you ought to wait for a stable build of the best size before upgrading from the very acceptable current WM6 ROMs?

For my money, Pawel would be better tasked to finalise a stable single version, whether full, minimal or vanilla, then work on modifying the installation set once the basic bugs have been worked through.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] fards:
Has anyone got the htc audio today plugin working btw?

I've been playing with the latest beta of throttle launcher which is a fairly decent interpretation of the manilla interface, but I can't get any of the music plugins working.

Pawel I think the one bug that needs fixing more than the others is the ringtone with manilla dialer.

I really the nice big buttons to press to answer a call but occassionally the ringtone doesn't work, and when you try to change it there's an error.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] apap:
NeilM,

All I said was that if Pawel is near completion (meaning he does not need that much additional effort) he should release the beta. Since we have taken the plunge to the 'less stable' post ap3 roms there is no harm done for the community to have yet another beta released. I am presently using Irus' 6.1 vanilla, but even this is less stable than ap3...so I will take what little improvements there are. If you ask me now whether I would have preferred to wait much longer for a stable ap4, my answer would be yes. Naturally, if releasing a beta diverts serious attention to a final stable version I would agree with you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] ngaiadam:
I'm recently upgrade to AP5 beta rom, refresh the rom 2times but unable activate the WIFI... Anyone know what going wrong? Everything is go fine before I process upgrade. (I've tried to search and know it happen on AP4 and so far I don't seen anyone report this problem via AP5.0)

Currently I'm using 1.57 firmware, AP5 spl3.5 version.

I hope someone can light up my "WIFI", thank you very much!!!