yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] K7jhin:
July UPDATE here (14/2019):

- July security patch

- Vendor prefix for camera props

- Force HAL1 on some application (fix green cam whatsapp issue)

- Sync blobs from MIUI v10.2.2.0 MALMIXM
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] seepranavg:
Any review on this version?
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] Rajshe25:
Gcam force closes. Tried different version.

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Any working gcam?

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Even the playstore's version of gcam is crashing.
[Xiaomi Redmi 3s ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other] K7jhin:
Yeah, gcam crash will fix soon
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] hackerh2:
hello guys..

iam getting Black screen instead of fastboot mode !!!!

after rolling back from Wayne to jasmine (mi 6x to mi A2)

if i try to get into fastboot mode (vol down + power btn).. its not even working..

please help... Bootloader is already unlocked. and currently iam using android one. (rolled back from mi 6x) :( :( :(

current Rom is working fine but i want to install miui 10 pie..

plss tell me how to fix fastboot mode...
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] Aerobatic:
Reflash stock splash.img
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] hackerh2:
How to reflash bro... fastboot mode is not working. Is there any other way to install rom without fastboot
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] mariosenta:
You'r fastboot is working, you just lost the image for bunny in proces of reverting
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] drvish:
i am facing the same problem. pls help... how to recover lost image
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] Badotti:
Open your phone, flash in EDL mode... it is simple... Find in youtube edl guide for mi a2

Sorry my bad english
[Xiaomi Mi A2 / 6X Questions & Answers] nhmanas:
I had this problem too. I was trying to flash stock jasmine rom from my amd ryzen pc and this happened. It was the first time I was using ryzen pc for flashing. In a reddit post, I saw this: "fastboot is broken on ryzen pcs". Then I tried to flash from my intel laptop and problem solved.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raz Olorcisimo:
Anyone who have any custom roms for vivo y55s? I've been searching the internet but no results. Vivo didn't even update the os the just updated the security patches. Hope there are developers for this phone.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ayushraj1126:
Hello i am using funtouch os in my vivo y55s phone and i want to install custom os so, please make my phone bootable
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
Changelog​

Build 20190906:

Rom Side:'

Shishufied (Official)

Gaming Mode v2 -Now with roblox support-

Fixes for QS detailed view

Advanced location enabled

Added support for Pixel stand

Updated some boost framework stuff

Adding cutout force full screen

Added LiveDisplay

Force powersave on system apps

New intro for new devices

Moving net indicator to expanded statusbar header

Fixes for Q clock strings

Long screenshot

Internal Audio recording

Fixed the inverted navbar layout

Added some goofy stuff: like The Drill and Developer mode insulter

Updated our APNs

Fixed dialer dark numbers on numpad

Misc fixes

Removed Roblox as system app

Device Side:

Merge 4.4.183 into android-4.4

Merge LA.UM.7.5.2.r1-03300-8x96.0

qcacld-2.0: Merge LA.UM.7.5.2.r1-03300-8x96.0

Back to ZUKDoze

Implemented Pixel 2 vibration intensity

Build 20190709:

Rom Side:'

July security patch merged

Some translation fixes

Device Side:

Updates from ZUK-Devs

Thermal Improvements

Build 20190621:

Initial release

Based on ZUK-Devs source

Added Kcal
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
Reserved for future use
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] samartht:
good work mate but what happened with aswin ?
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] sanjay.2704:
Reserved...

Downloading Now

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Personal life.. he mentioned in old bootlegger thread
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
He is busy with Exams.

He will come back soon :)
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vinay069:
Just flashed ROM and it's amazing like it should be .... Every important feature is present plus the launcher is the main part it's finally completed to meet every aspect of pixel launcher with many more features .... Thanks dev

Features request....

1. Pixel nav bar animation

2. Less annoying headsup

3. Pocket detection

Edit: one bug i spotted... Whenever we re-start Device the data connection automatically switches to sim 1 even if we use data on sim 2
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Korelev:
can anyone confirm whether miracast is working or not?
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] renatohm:
Thanks for your great job!

Are you releasing a Shishufied version?
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
Applied for Maintainership.

Once accepted, will release :)
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] sanjay.2704:
Awesome job with the rom bro..

Very much impressed with your work..

Just 1 request can OOS style network speed indicator be included?? Looks very neat..like this.. screen shot

Weather setting missing ..
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
I'm just maintainer, request features to Team Bootleggers
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] bhushan2k:
Are you going to continue the official ROM as well? Or will you make this official later?
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
Applied for Maintainership. Soon official if accepted
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] joop1ter:
There is a problem with temperature management with stock kernel and also with other kernels
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] vinay069:
Yes there is thermal management issue ..... Phone is heating like hell
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] hmd_msrf_k:
Test this thermal and tell
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] Joy3392:
Radio issues

Faced 2 issues :

1. unable to connect Wi-Fi

2. Bluetooth earphone connected but no sound is coming from it.
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] zakwanPHG:
Reserve:D
[Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & ] shepvrd:
Everything is working well, except for u touch, which declines any bindings on back long tap by opening goddamn Google assistant. For the same reason fingerprint unlock couldn't be set up
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] hallo dare:
Anyone having an issue with Android Auto on the OP7P?

When i connect mine to the car the only volume that displays on the radio screen is "prompt level" and i cannot control the volume levels of the radio or phonecall. I have to disconnect and reconnect the phone several times before it works.

This was never an issue with my OP6. I reinstalled the apk just to be sure, but same problem.

Just wondering if someone has same issue or knows of a fix?

Thanks
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] MarkyH:
Your doing better than me. I can't get Android Auto to work at all with my headunit.

Really annoying as it works fine with my Pixel 2XL.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] AhsanU:
Android Auto working perfectly on my wife's 2019 Audi A6.

What Android software are you guys on? I haven't tried 9.5.8 but 9.5.7 worked.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] ibchh:
Beside of Dual Sim Selection everything works as expected.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] hallo dare:
9.5.8
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Jack_Sparrow_:
Android auto sucks with OnePlus (I had 6 and now 7 pro) on Renault. Screen is always pixelated and not responsive.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] mammothjojo88:
I too have had issues with Android auto. I have a GMC canyon 2018 and notice that sometimes when I plug the phone in, it does not automatically show up. I have to manually force it to show. I also have had it turn off completely.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] justibasa:
Working fine on my 2018 Kia forte.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] equlizer:
Fine here on my honda crv 2018 and my wifes Kia
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] MarkyH:
I tried 4 different USB c cables. And my OnePlus 7 pro works perfectly with 1 of them and not at all with the other 3 (including the OnePlus Red one).

Can see any difference between the cables apart from length...the one that works is only 50cm long.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Jaco2k:
Works just fine for me here on a 2017 Seat Leon, 2018 Seat Ibiza and 2019 Nissan Micra.

Note: I realized that enabling ADB debugging causes issues with Android Auto.

Also, check your permissions for the Android Auto app.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] azfxstb:
every time I have had issues with AA it has been a cable problem, lets not get into the fact that Google decided to route some audio through USB and some over BT...that was STUPID. I dislike apple but the "function" of carplay makes AA look like a bugger
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] buba666:
Skoda Superb OP7PRO

Hello

I can not connect OP7 pro with Columbus system in Skoda Superb, I was using red cable which was delivered together with phone. Anyone have an idea how to fix it?
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] hallo dare:
Check the firmware version on your AA unit. Updating it can help solve alot of issues i found.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] lopjxo:
For anyone still following this thread; I tried for days to get my Android auto working on my OP7 pro. I even rooted the phone and installed LineageOS, tried various cables that I owned. The car was fine as it worked flawlessly with my Pixel 2.

It eventually came out as being a cable issue. Even the red cable provided by OnePlus didn't work. I bought EasyAcc short usb to usb C cables and it now works, though I also have the usb default as File Sharing, unknown sources on, and resolution up to 1080p (Android auto developer options).

I've since put the phone back to stock OxygenOS and it still works.

I hope it helps someone else who's stick, as I had almost given up hope!
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Eric214:
Hmmm I just bought a 2019 Nissan Maxima SR 3 weeks ago and I just plugged in my OP 7 Pro with the red cable that came with my dash car charger (Dash not Warp) I bought with my OP 5 when OP5 launched and AA works flawlessly. It downloaded AA on my phone automatically paired and works. To my surprise, it works with all my 3rd party apps as well. Textra, Bluemail, Whatsapp and Player Pro Music player, Google Assistant as well as Google Maps and Waze ofc.

No idea why people have issues and others don't. AA installed in the cars are the same version correct?

I should add that I'm on Stock OOS 9.5.11 Rooted with TWRP and EX Kernel installed.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] ajrich80:
Android Auto works perfectly with my 2019 Chevy Traverse and my wife's 2019 Chevy Equinox. It hasn't mattered what cable I have used either.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jwils1236:
When attempting to flash any/latest TWRP I continually get message 'Only official binaries are allowed to be flashed(RECOVERY)'. I purchased this phone new just recently and paid quite a bit for it, solely to be rooted (specifically global version SM-N950F/DS). I didn't imagine that the global version with the exynos processor would give me so much trouble rooting. I updated to Pie, because I knew the OEM unlock option would be accessible in developer options and thought it would make the process of rooting simpler, not more challenging.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] stonedpsycho:
You need to disable/delete 'security log agent' on first boot or the only official binary message will appear on reboot, you also have to patch rmm state, or it will keep happening too, which can read about here-

https://xdaforums.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535

I believe all the roms have already patched this which could save you the hassle, if you just want a stock rooted rom, try Dev-Base.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] odystyle:
Its just easy step

Things u needed before proceed

* SD card

*Magisk latest version

*Odin

* Twrp zip file

1. Reflash ur device with proper firmware

2. After done go download mode and flash Twrp zip on odin. After done reboot ur device to Twrp again

3. After boot up to Twrp go to Wipe and do a factory restore . After this done u must install Magisk or u will get official binary only after reboot to system

4. After all the step are followed u are good to go. Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jwils1236:
I see. After research, it appears I'm not unlocked like I thought I was -- was thinking since OEM unlock option is accessible and valid in recovery it would be possible to flash TWRP, but didn't consider RMM state. Do you have any idea if it is safe to upgrade to the 'latest' Pie and if the bootloader would change capacity of root? Wouldn't mind being on the latest in the meantime, while I hope and wait 7 days. Also, not sure if the workaround on changing the clock would work or if any info on this to make work -- tried with no luck. Don't want to wait 7 days and seems like there could or should be a workaround, but whatever needs to be done I suppose. Appreciate your assistance.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jwils1236:
Also, for anyone reading this with the same issue, extracting the boot image from stock firmware (can be done through command prompt/terminal dump or by extracting from stock firmware -- AP Odin file) and patching with Magisk will not flash or work/give root access either unless this device is fully unlocked -- OEM unlock doesn't matter, if RMM still says "Prenormal" in download mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] stonedpsycho:
I am quite sure it is still rootable on bootloader 6, so updating would be fine.

The trick to get the OEM toggle is a bit hit and miss, the guide below is the method that has had a higher success rate for me, if followed exacty as written.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...-samsung-galaxy-s8-samsung-galaxy-note-8/amp/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers] jwils1236:
I ended up using Chimera Tool to bypass RMM state. Worked instantly. This seems to be a common issue for many Samsung devices, at least on Pie. Not sure there is an alternative solution, currently. Only one I could find for my device.
[Huawei P20 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Saint613:
Woke up to this update today. :)
[Huawei P20 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] BizzleDrew:
Hey, how are you? I have an ANE-LX3 and I'm from Venezuela but I haven't received the update yet :(. How is your battery performance now with EMUI 9.1?
[Huawei P20 Lite Guides, News, & Discussion] Saint613:
Battery seems great, 10-15 hours, unless I'm hitting Youtube heavy. Only issue I have is if running battery saver mode the auto screen dimming is annoying
[Oukitel (All phone models)] Karrbon:
I recently bought a new phone for myself which was kind of an experiment and happened to be Oukitel K10 (I used to stick with Samsung Galaxy S phones). I haven't run into too many issues except for one, the videos on youtube tend to really lag and shutter. I was looking for the solution here and there (disabled HW, cleared cache, reinstalled the app) but it doesn't seem to be working. Any clues on what to do?
[Oukitel (All phone models)] a602820922:
Got same phone and no issues with YouTube.

Perhaps it's your network provider
[Oukitel (All phone models)] Karrbon:
Is there a way to check that? I've been using the same mobile internet provider for like 11 years now and never had issues of this kind.
[Oukitel (All phone models)] a602820922:
Use some internet speed test to compare.

How about other apps such as Netflix, lagging as well?
[Oukitel (All phone models)] Karrbon:
I've just checked it (download 38,1 mbps / upload 26,3 mbps) so correct me if I'm wrong but I find it unlikely that this is the issue (Youtube has always worked perfectly for me on every single one of my devices)
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] izimen:
Hi i wiped all in my op7 pro with the twrp :silly:

And now i want to reinstall a full rom stock but how?

please help me
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Hunter3U:
Easiest option is download the fastboot rom for whatever version you need and run the flash-all.bat through command prompt while in fastboot mode.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] Toutatis_:
Here is the relevant thread.
[OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers] redpoint73:
Maybe already lessons learned. But seems like you ignored several "best practices" for phone modding, which I'm constructively posting for your consideration and information:

1) First thing that should be done after installing TWRP, and

before

messing with anything (wipe, root, mods, etc.) is to make a TWRP backup of your stock ROM. Doing so would have given you a simple way to restore from the current situation. Or alternately, read up and understand how to restore to stock with stock recovery image (such as that posted in the previous reply). And have the needed files ready to go. In short, you have know how to return to stock

before

messing with the phone. Give yourself an escape plan

always

. Otherwise, you're metaphorically jumping into a deep hole, without having any plan on how to get out.

2) Don't mess with the "advanced" wipe options in TWRP unless you know exactly what the result will be. It's called "advanced" for a reason. And it says right on the TWRP main Wipe screen that the default wipe (data, cache, Dalvik) is the only wipe you need most of the time". Again, it says for a reason. I've seen far too many posts on these forums along the lines of "I wiped system and now the phone won't boot to OS" when such a result should have been obvious (system

is

the OS, after all). And if the result is not obvious to you, don't wipe it!

Simply said, a little reading and knowledge, and a bit of planning, will prevent a lot of headaches when modding these devices.

Now on a side note, is there some problem of issue you were trying to address when you did the TWRP wipe?
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
Hi, that's my first customisation:

1. Device unlocked:

[IMG="bootloader"]https://kukutrust.org/wp-content/uploads/bootloader.jpg[/IMG]

2. TWRP flashed + *zip ready on /sdcard1

3. Install Zip fails :(

[IMG="InstallZ"]https://kukutrust.org/wp-content/uploads/InstallZip.jpg[/IMG]

The checksums of all zips are ok, verified on my notebook.

I also can't wipe. And the standard Android 7.1 is recovering itself, if I boot-up.

Please advise, thanks! :)
[Wileyfox Swift] kabu83:
1. Try unchecking signature verification in TWRP

2. Most likely, you will have to downgrade to CM13.1 first with that mounting error

3. I recommend using the standard LOS zip, it seems you have one with microG embedded
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
SECURE BOOT - enabled — Am I root?

Thanks, I did all that and much more, trying to install CM 13.1, crDroid, OrangeFox, SuperSu => nothing installs!

Now I wonder: Am I root at all? I thought so, since I installed TWRP on a naked device?!

The bootloader shows: DEVICE STATE - unlocked
[Wileyfox Swift] kabu83:
The Problem is, that TWRP cannot mount /system in the first place.

Have you tried downgrading following these steps: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72261104
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
TWRP cannot mount /system

Now, that my holidays are over, I want this Crackling to crack!

Here my efforts to crack it via Fastboot:

Since the vintage Cyanogen fails as well as the state of the art Linage, I suspect that the payload might not be the cause for the failure?!

# fastboot flash system lineage-16.0-20190826-microG-crackling.zip
target reported max download size of 268435456 bytes
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 271225615 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 2794255 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
erasing 'system'...
OKAY [ 0.841s]
sending sparse 'system' 1/3 (262140 KB)...
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 271225615 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 271225615 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
OKAY [ 8.258s]
writing 'system' 1/3...
FAILED (remote: buffer overreads occured due to invalid sparse header)
finished. total time: 16.173s
# fastboot erase system
******** Did you mean to fastboot format this ext4 partition?
erasing 'system'...
OKAY [ 1.042s]
finished. total time: 1.043s

# fastboot flash system SW27-WF-CRACKLING-CM-13.1.5-ZNH2KAS7EB-RECOVERY.zip
target reported max download size of 268435456 bytes
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 619158578 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 350727218 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 82295858 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
erasing 'system'...
OKAY [ 0.831s]
sending sparse 'system' 1/4 (262140 KB)...
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 619158578 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
error: write_sparse_skip_chunk: don't care size 619158578 is not a multiple of the block size 4096
OKAY [ 8.290s]
writing 'system' 1/4...
FAILED (remote: buffer overreads occured due to invalid sparse header)
finished. total time: 14.176s
# fastboot erase recovery
erasing 'recovery'...
OKAY [ 0.205s]
finished. total time: 0.205s
# fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.3.1-0-crackling.img
target reported max download size of 268435456 bytes
sending 'recovery' (16984 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.563s]
writing 'recovery'...
OKAY [ 1.188s]
finished. total time: 1.751s
# fastboot boot twrp-3.3.1-0-crackling.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.535s]
booting...
OKAY [ 0.672s]
finished. total time: 1.208s
[Wileyfox Swift] kabu83:
Boot to recovery (TWRP), then touch the bottom right menu button, what does it say in the terminal log? (Similar to the 2nd screenshot you posted.)
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
Bootloader vs BIOS

At the time of the Cyanogen/Linage installation I had no TWRP installed! Would it help to repeat the process?

In general, I assumed the Bootloader to function similar to the BIOS at a PC? That makes me wonder, why an Android installation-process via Fastboot can't just reformat the entire drive and do a fresh partitioning? (instead of complaining about 'chunks' and 'block-sizes')

Thanks for all your assistance, most appreciated! :good:
[Wileyfox Swift] kabu83:
I would recommend installing TWRP, Version 3.2.1-0.

Then boot to recovery and check, if TWRP can mount the system Partition.

What OS do you have currentyl installed?
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
/system is empty

As mentioned, I prefer a clean install. Thus formatted /system with ext4 via Fastboot (it's default). It should be possible to mount an empty /system -- isn't it?
[Wileyfox Swift] kabu83:
A clean install is needed anyway. It seems just easier to install the OS via TWRP and for future nightly updates anyway.
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
Heureka!

With TWRP 3.2.1-0 I managed to install SW27-WF-CRACKLING-CM-13.1.5-ZNH2KAS7EB-RECOVERY.zip :good:

(I failed though to install "lineage-16.0-20190826-microG-crackling.zip" before.)

What's next? Replacing Cyanogen Bootloader with TWRP 3.2.1-0 again?

Then trying a pure Lineage and later Gapps seperately?
[Wileyfox Swift] kabu83:
Can you boot into CM 13 now?

Has it replaced TWRP as recovery?
[Wileyfox Swift] KUKU@Tanzania:
Bingo!

I've got Cyanogen Fastboot, Lineage Bootloader, and Lineage Crackling 190801.002 up and running… :good:

With CM 13 installed, TWRP directly installed "lineage-16.0-20190826-microG-crackling.zip" from SD-card.

Thanks again for your advice, it appears that the Android System which Google offers as update to CM13, indeed prevented the alternative OS installation somehow.