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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kiowa79:
I do not understand completely this point. Tell me if I am right. I must cook my own ROM with my personal configuration included in the rt.dll file. Inside this file must be the telephone number where I want to receive the SMS.

So if use an external ROM with Remote Tracker included on it, it will not be configured for my personal numbers making the program useless. Therefore the option to add the program to the ROM is only useful for the person who cooks it. Am I right?

Is there a way to solve this?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tjthe1st:
Excellent work

joubertvasc

Thank you for developing such a great program. I have just read through the thread and installed it on my Kaiser. I only wish I knew about it a month or so ago when someone else decided that they liked my PDA more than me!

From my experience in loosing my last phone there were a few features that would be very attractive if I lost another. The first would be for a command to send all outlook contacts to an email address, as loosing these was the most painful part of the experience.

A second feature that would be nice would be for a command that takes a picture either on receipt of that command (the command might even be able to specify which camera) and/or when the keypad is next used (this should increase the likelihood of catching the person using it) and then sending this to the emergency number/email.

Once again, thanks for the great work

TJ
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] kuzco1:
I have more than 400 contacts in my company mobile. To send all these informations to a new number ..... could be very lengthy.

Have you ever done a backup of your contacts ?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tjthe1st:
I do now, but at the time was trying to decide the best way of managing contacts between outlook on my phone and opera on my laptop.

Certainly as SMS contacts it would be a slow painful process, however, the full version of outlook has the ability to export contacts as a csv file which should only be one smallish email.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mike1002:
You can use the 'epb' command.

This sends all of your contacts to your specified email address.

Hope that helps :)

Mike.

Edit: I think that command is SIM contacts only.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] SREPISO:
help

hello ..

first of all thank you for all the work and dedication that you have ..

I have a small problem when you turn on your phone and change the sim I did not send emergency msn and when I read the smsluncher gives me this error: quote:

Start: 03/10/08 13:11:07

DefaultNumber is set? Yes

Config IMSI1 is set? Yes

Config IMSI2 is set? No

Config IMSI3 is set? No

Config IMSI4 is set? No

Installed IMSI ok? Yes

IMSI1 is equal than installed? No

IMSI2 is equal than installed? No

IMSI3 is equal than installed? No

IMSI4 is equal than installed? No

Count = 0

RadioOff? No

NoService? No

Searching? Yes

Can send message? No

Sleeping, phone not ok...

Installed IMSI ok? Yes

IMSI1 is equal than installed? No

IMSI2 is equal than installed? No

IMSI3 is equal than installed? No

IMSI4 is equal than installed? No

Count = 1

RadioOff? No

NoService? No

Searching? No

Can send message? Yes

03/10/08 13:11:27 - SendBitMessage: Error while sending message: Microsoft.WindowsMobile.PocketOutlook.ServiceCenterException: The SMSC address is unknown. Verify the SMSC address is configured and try again.

en Microsoft.WindowsMobile.PocketOutlook.MAPIUtilities.ThrowCorrectSmsException(Int32 errorCode)

en Microsoft.WindowsMobile.PocketOutlook.SmsMessage.Send()

en CommonDLL.SMS.SendBitMessage(String telSMS, String chunk)

en CommonDLL.SMS.SendSMSMessage(String telSMS, String textSMS, Boolean bExitAfterSend, Boolean bFake)

en SMSLauncher.Program.Main(String[] args)

End: 03/10/08 13:11:27

can someone help me?

thanks¡¡¡
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] joubertvasc:
Can you send me more details in private? This error came from Windows, not RT. I need to know what number did you set in emergency and if you can manually send SMS to this number.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] sanjuro74:
Password

Ok here is my problem when I installed RTconfig on my Mogul it asks for a password. I searched the thread and found the delete the explore key in the registry post but im only so brave and that dont sound to umm how should say safe thats a nice way. Any suggestions because I dont want to mess up my phone trying to get this to work

Much Obliged
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheChampJT:
I finally got around to trying this out, and this worked perfectly! Sent the Google Maps file to my email, and pointed me at my exact location. I wasn't sure if it would work, since I live in the city, while sitting in my house, but it picked up 9-10 sats! I was even surprised to see the SMS never shows up, very slick.

Great work, very much appreciated!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
...but still no way to send the google link over SMS :(

think of it like that:

someone steals your device

puts in a SIM card that is NOT data enabled

you send the SMS to retrieve the device position (* read below for something that just came to me)

...you get SMS with the link! If someone stole your device you don't care of it charges one two or three SMS the SIM of the thief!!!

* just came to me... exactly for the case where data connection might NOT be possible, RemoteTracker should send back a notification in the predetermined callback number to mention the fact! So the owner will not send useless "reply by email" commands!

this are little differences that make a program move from "cool" to "really useful"...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheChampJT:
It will send the coordinates through SMS and from there you can just paste them into the search. As for the SIM, luckily I have CDMA.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
I know it will, but that doesn't change what I said.

As for the SIM and CDMA, what is this supposed to mean for the rest of the users here? The point is that there will be (many) people without data plans (and even more thieves for that matter, as "phone-only" plans are usually cheaper) and this application should still "workaround" obstacles.

What is CDMA have to do with anything anyway. So I have GSM/GPRS/UMTS/HSPA... and?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheChampJT:
well, you don't need a data plan for an SMS or GPS, and your service should still be active by the time you realize your phone is lost.

As for CdMA, I don't need a SIM card....
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MJNewton:
I think you're getting confused as to how this works. Why does it matter if the SIM is data enabled or not?

RT doesn't require any data channel to do its business - all it needs is the ability to perform GPS lookups and send/receive SMS's.

Mathew
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
no I am perfectly clear

I am only talking about the email related (re)actions that need a data plan. So:

1) I'd like to have google link, back in SMS, even if it means two SMS (ie. since email might not be possible).

2) I'd like a function that if the owner requests an email action and it is not possible to be sent (no data plan, no credits, no data coverage, whatever), then to automatically notify the owner through SMS of the fact, so that then the owner can act accordingly (and use commands that trigger SMS replies instead).

I cannot be more clear.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] MJNewton:
You shouldn't be relying on e-mail connectivity for this sort of application - there are too many weak links in the chain that could fail.

You've mentioned one - the potential lack of data connectivity. There are others too:

2. Patchy coverage causing intermittent connectivity - data transfer should be kept to a minimum to ensure successfull transmission. SMS requires only 160 bytes (far less given we only need coordinates) plus some basic overhead, e-mail requires the message itself plus handshaking (which is likely to require greater data transfer than the message itself).

3. Authorisation - If someone sticks a SIM in from another provider (and assuming the device is unlocked) then if your outgoing SMTP server is provided by your mobile provider then chances are it might not allow off-net access hence e-mail delivery fails.

4. End-to-end delivery - SMTP is, by design, based on best effort delivery and given the store-and-forward nature of this delivery there are likely to be several hops in the chain. If any one of these fails, or causes delay, then you risk not getting your message (or it being delayed to be of little use). SMS on the other hand is a dedicated service utilising relatively fewer hops hence has an increased chance of successful timely delivery.

There are probably numerous other reasons that I haven't thought of. The bottom line is that you should stick to SMS for when it really matters, and that SMS should provide the relevant amount of information using the minimum amount of data.

Co-ordinates are all that you need - not a hyperlink to a specific online mapping service. If you have the coordinates you can then use whatever map or navigation tool you desire. If Google maps is your tool of choice then as someone mentioned above just stick the coordinates in the search box and you're done!

Given the above I think it is a moot point whether RT should be telling you that e-mail connectivity is not available as in times of crisis you shouldn't be relying on it anyway (and RT cannot be aware of the availability of the entire SMTP chain anyway so just checking for a data connection seems hardly worth it).

Mathew
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Christian72D:
Mhhh, just heard of this project... sounds perfect!

I think i miss one very interesting feature:

rt#killsim

With this command the phone will be switched off and the on and some illegal pin-codes will be entered to lock the sim card.

So the new "user" of the phone will have some problems.

But you should use it as the last command because after this, no more sms/email could be sent.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
MJNewton we agree.

(btw SMS is more likely to survive bad signal from a single provider, since it uses the generic control channel)

In any case, what remains is that I'd love to see google link back in (even if it means more than one SMS).

ChristianD's idea is also nice.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] markkohfm:
I am sorry if this is already a feature but i think it would be good if there is a sign in feature for modification to the program as well as to uninstall it.

These are features on Sprite Terminator which I find useful:

Wipe- used to erase any user data on the device and the storage card if there is one inserted at the time. It will also require a hard reset before it can be used again - This is especially useful in the event that you can not get the device back from the thief. Then at least you have all your 'incriminating' pictures, videos and files deleted.

It also offers you an option to just clear all user data on the device, of which all user date will be deleted but applications and configurations will not be touched.

These are just some useful options that are available paid software that would be fantastic if you are able to implement it in open source.

Good work so far btw!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheChampJT:
You better believe that in the event I'm hunting for my Touch, I'm sending every command in the book, e-mail and SMS, if it doesn't work through one way, it will work the other. I still can't see where you see these flaws.

My biggest thing is, will it work when it's most needed.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ASCIIker:
NLS: i think the forum is still not clear on what you are saying. it helps to tell which particular commands you have personally used and examples of what you got as replies. as far as i know, there are TWO kinds of gps related commands that RemoteTracker will reply to:

1. gps coordinates of the current POSITION (commands rt#gp and rt#egp). i have personally tested rt#gp many times and the result is a SINGLE reply BY SMS containing some numbers that you can directly copy/paste into google maps or google earth or ANY application of your choice. perhaps THIS is what you are looking for?

2. a SET of gps coordinates that define a course travelled by your device (command rt#elt). i have NOT personally tested this but i can see how the reply from RemoteTracker can easily exceed a couple of messages if delivered by SMS. is THIS what you want to receive by SMS? or you are looking for something else?

once again, (1) is already functioning well and good in the current version of RemoteTracker while getting (2) to reply BY SMS would be a new feature. remember, (2) is useful to track a thief that is constantly on the move AND doesn't have a data plan for RemoteTracker to send emails through AND the only remaining option for RemoteTracker to reliably respond through is SMS.

TheChampJT: i too am concerned whether or not RemoteTracker will deliver in a time of need. don't get me wrong, i LOVE this application. its the first thing i install after a hard reset or after flashing ANY new ROM. however, i've noticed my phone has RARELY ever gotten a gps fix INDOORS and can take more than a minute even when OUTDOORS (all this using google maps). i'm worried that if my future theif ducks indoors after stealing my device, my device might never get a fix to be able to reply with the much needed coordinates. fingers crossed !!!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] TheChampJT:
Luckily I've been able to use the VZW aGPS hack which gives me a more accurate lock indooes than the typical in-car models on the highway on a clear day :D, so I feel quite confident in it. Plus, you can send the command over and over, and with your set number of tries, I'm sure at some point it would get a lock.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hendrixus:
Great software, thanks.

Read a few pages but didn't read if it could survive a hardreset.

Ofcourse it would being but into a ROM.

I also like to know if a landline phone number can be used in Remote tracker since in the Netherlands we can receive sms via landlines.

Now there is more software on the market like this. Only not free. Like Gadgettrak which can be used for more mobile devices like WM, Blackberry's and Ipones. But als PC's, USB sticks and Laptops.

This also wipes personal data if the device is lost or stolen.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] arnoldl:
i love this app!!

should be burned ito the phone , so that what i want to do.

i'm cooking my own rom with this app , only 2 problems.

(i'm new to cooking--so it may be simple)

-1- when i start my cooked rom with rt in it , wm complains about it not being signed.

at one try i had to grant acces to it , witch ofcourse reveals this hidden software.

at a other try it showed a error not able to start because it couldn.t be found or was not signed.

-2- if emails are sent by the registered profile email...how can it email after a hard reset..

there is no email at that point, and for sure not by the same name as mine profile.

so email by direct smtp would help a lot.

or is there a easy way to cook my email account in the rom?

i would love to have live tracking on this thing...searched a little but couldn't find a site with a open protocol for live tracking.

thanks , arnold
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ookheldaroo:
Hi, I was search about this question before, but I didn't found it.

Is there any way to create/configure an e-mail account before **** my own Rom?.

My idea is to integrate RT (and config) on my own Rom with a functional account (certainly not my personal account, maybe a new gmail account :rolleyes:.....) for e-mails actions in case of a hard-reset.

Thanks.

P.s. My phone is a Polaris.

Edit ****. So many time making a search, and finally anoher one makes the same question one post before...... regards arnoldl ;)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] m.zielinski:
No SMS when SIM in Pin-locked ?

Hello,

I just integrated RemoteTracker into a own build rom.

But i wondered why RT did NOT send a sms.

It only workjed when i started smslauncher manually.

The Reason: The Used SIM uses a Pin that has to be entered before it connects to the Network. Seems RT didnt wait for that..

When i disabled the Pin on the SIM it worked as it should...

Bye

Michael

PS: it would be great to have the latest version as Package also on sf.net
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] d1srupt3r:
I would love to put RT in my current ROM by dsixda but unfortunately I don't know how to do it. Is it possible to edit his Onyx and just out RT then compile it again and reflash it?

It would be great if RT is Hard-Reset proof. :D

PS:

See my signature for my phone's details. :)
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] manubx:
Hi there ;)

I've just cooked your app in a custom rom. Everything's working as it should except for one thing: the gi or getinfo command doesn't work, it keeps sending me back a text message saying "Invalid Command" :confused:

Any Idea?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
is this still updated?

or goes to a slow death?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] hendrixus:
Do you need an update. Do you have a problem with RT?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] NLS:
I still have the wish of seeing a google maps link using SMS

and many feature requests listed in the previous pages

and in the end, would like to see this going forward
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] pinetreehater:
I, too, can confirm that RT does not respond to the rt#gp# command if the phone is in standby. On both mine and my dad's phone, which are ATT tilts, we get the return message " cannot connect to satellite. Battery 81-100%"

Is there a fix for this?

Pinetreehater
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mike1002:
This happened to me.

This is a password issue.

Are you sure that you are including the password in the command?

If not, then this is the reason this error is occuring.

Youre command should look like this: rt#gp##password (where password is your password)

Other command should look like this: rt#[command]#[mobile-number_or_E-mail]#password

Cheers, Mike.

More info can be found on his Sourceforge page: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/#docs
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] chupalo:
Is ther an easy way to put it on a official rom

Hi,

I had been reading about your sw. It is pretty good.

I have an HTC Touch Diamond with the official 1.93 rom.

Is there a program that can be use to burn your program inside the installed rom on my phone?

I saw a post that mentioned the E-Ten rom configurator but I could not find any information if this works in my phone or if it is only for e-ten.

No that anybody asked me but I am in favor of the SMS being the primary objective of your sw and emails feature should be a plus, considering of the so many parts that can go wrong with emails.

Keep doing a great job.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dav3ywrx:
Hi Guys,

This looks like really great software, I really wanted to make use of it but I installed V0.2.0.0 on my Voda Touch Pro, all looked to be perfect but when I attempted to send commands from my wife's T-Mobile phone to mine the commands just were shown as ordinary text messages.

I really think I have the right codes, am I doing something wrong?

Cheers,

D.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mike1002:
Have you done a soft reset??

Make sure the SMSlauncher is in your startup folder.

Mike.

what commands are you using?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dav3ywrx:
Hi Mike,

Thanks for getting back to me, that's great.

Yes, I did soft reset the device after installation just to make sure all was well and SMSLauncher.lnk is located in \Windows\StartUp and is pointing to:

"\Program Files\RTConfig\SMSLauncher.exe" which is present.

SMSLauncher.exe is not showing up as an active process though but I'm guessing that it's called on an incoming text.

I do have the TF3D active on the device just in case this has any bearing.

I have attached a screen shot showing the command that was sent to the Touch Pro, I have taken out some numbers as you can see, the password was 4 numerics.

Really sorry to worry you, it's probably me doing something stupid but, again, thanks for your assistance.

Cheers,

D.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Mike1002:
Your message seems to be in the right format.

I'm guessing touchflo just picks up whatever messages are in your inbox.

You might try disabling touchflo, doing a soft reset, and then seeing if it works.

The SMSLauncher does activate itself on arrival of a new txt.

You might also want to try and open the config program and see if youve set up all the variables (might seem obvious, i know :)).

You could also try getting the RTtest.exe application on sourceforge page (if you cant find it give me a PM and i'll send you it) try this program using the GP command (but faked) you'll then know if its a problem with the software or not.

Is the program installed on your main device memory (if not, thats where it should be).

You should also check in the programs folder for any SMSLauncher.debug.txt

I would also try turning your phone on, making sure its unlocked and then sending a txt for a command, there might be an issue with your phone taking too long to come out of suspend, so the smslauncher isnt catching it.

Other than that im not really sure.

Hope this helps,

Mike.

Something else to try, some of the command may require a password to be set (although by the looks of your txt appearing in your inbox, it isnt even catching them).
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] dav3ywrx:
Hi Mike,

Disabled TF3D and soft reset, still no joy, also tried sending a command from the same device, so from the Touch Pro I sent:

rt#gp#{my phone number}#{password}

Again I was notified it had been sent then a few seconds later the message was received as a standard message and was not caught by SMSLauncher (indeed installed to the device not to card).

Downloaded the RTTest.exe from your site, interestingly, commands sent via this appear to work fine. Accidentally ran:

rt#help#{password}

But didn't tick 'Fake', after this I received about 6 texts :)

I wonder if it has anything to do with SMS Threading in WM6.1? This is enabled on my device.

Also, with the use of the RTTest.exe I have a new file called 'rtdebug.log' it contained:

Start: 18/11/08 6:37:41 PM

18/11/08 6:37:41 PM - Configuration: AlarmSound: \Program Files\RTConfig\notify.wav

ELT Timeout 20

GPS Interactions: 50

Language: 0

Is emergency number set? Yes

Is password set? Yes

Is E-Mail Account set? Yes

Is recipient name set? Yes

Is recipient E-Mail set? Yes

Is Subject set? Yes

Is IMSI set? Yes

18/11/08 6:37:41 PM - UpdateBatteryStrength. batteryLevel 61-80%

18/11/08 6:37:41 PM - Update BatteryState. newLevel is Charging? no

18/11/08 6:37:41 PM - mi_MessageReceived. Command received: #go#07nnnnnnnnn#2nnn

18/11/08 6:37:41 PM - Command started: go or ego

End: 18/11/08 6:37:44 PM

I don't wish to put you to any more work, you have been more than helpful and indeed I have received better assistance than from a paid vendor :) just looks like the app is not for the TP or perhaps the Diamond either.

Thanks again.

D. :)