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[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ~~Tito~~:
Would it be possible to install android on to a partition of an EMMC? I've purchased a 256gb EMMC to replace my 32gb. My plan is to install all my OS's to the EMMC and use the SD for storage.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
Possible yes. But not in any way simple to set up.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ~~Tito~~:
I'd love to be the guinea pig.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
I cant stress how bad an idea this is. And it will involve modifying more than just partitions. You’ll have to modify the hekate files too. I highly recomend you do not install anything to your emmc
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ZeroTheSavior:
Ban chances will never be zero but Nintendo hasn't started checking for hekate files on the SD card yet. So as of right now, very unlikely.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] BlackTSQ:
Reserved
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Waltee:
I could be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure that there would be serious privacy law violation if Nintendo ever scanned an SD card and started banning users based on what was on that card.

As far as I'm aware if there isn't anything that Nintendo can detect via information sent to them via HOS (through crash reports and other telemetry that's used by them to help with issues/understand how people are using their operating system) then there's nothing that they can do.

As such, running Android or Linux or anything else that doesn't boot into the operating system should be 100% safe.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] bylaws:
Your can be fine without gapps. As for Sig spoofing I'll look into it.

Nope, this build without lp0.

That can totally be done with Linux - gdisk, but complicated. The installer will do this for you.

It works in a different way, using gparted with an android sd will corrupt the hybrid gpt
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] MsMiss:
Just to confirm, reboot to payload doesn't work yet right?

Also what is the 'shield-ifier'.zip?

Does it make the launcher like the one on the shield? If so, can we change back to normal?

It would be awesome if the launcher would change to the one on the shield when docked and back to normal when undocked because it makes it easier to navigate using the joycons.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] BlackTSQ:
I think it's for launching Shield only Games like Portal ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Oleboy555:
These are exciting times for the switch.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] jsyreviewsth:
Well, it seems like Nintendo got their original wish after them being told off by CyanogenMod.

Yes, I'm still mad about that..
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] :
Have you guys have a plan to support actual cartridge slot too? So it can plays actual NS game? Well I think it's an emulation category so it's hard but I just curious.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Jz5678910:
If it works how it does using L4T then Bluetooth would be the better option. While Bluetooth is active you can still attach the controllers to the switch and keep using them. I primarily play portable as well, so I was worried about that, but at least on L4T it worked fine, while still having the option to dock.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Massasan:
First: why?

Second: there is no native drivers for it on Android or Linux. Making them will be a big effort for nothing because there is no way that Switch games will run on Switch Android with enough performance EVER.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] AndyYan:
Given Nintendo did a terrible job at making vanilla Switch competitive as a tablet alternative, I'm very interested in this.

OP indicates that it's bootable from Hekate. I have a vanilla (untouched), vulnerable Switch. If I understand correctly, I can just prepare an RCM dongle and optionally an RCM loader, follow the usual CFW instructions up to loading Hekate, then proceed from there, without actually entering the CFW realm or touching NAND? I do want to avoid any impact to the original functionality of the console, i.e. updates, online features, etc.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Massasan:
Too many steps. RCM dongle is RCM Loader.

1. Go to RCM

2. Load Hekate through RCM Loader

3. Run Android

And that should be it in best scenario. Nothing in NAND will be touched and CFW will not be loaded.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] AndyYan:
By "dongle" I actually meant the RCMclip that comes with it (just looked it up).

Sounds good enough, the need for clip/dongle won't really bother if Android could go into deep sleep (so I can carry it around in Android for the majority of time). I'll go grab a set of RCMloader now.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] :
It's just a question dude. Don't be aggressive.

Anyways, Thanks to your answer. But your answer is not the actual answer to my question.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Massasan:
This was the answer.

There is no merit from it. So why they should care?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Yeah, there really is no point for us to support the cartridge slot. Nothing would be playable at all in an emulator and the effort that would need to go into the whole process would have no benefit apart from maybe dumping cart content. But that's already possible in HOS (and also a topic I don't wanna get into given the piracy implications).

As for storage speed: Yes, SD might be slower than the eMMC, but if you get a good SD card it's not really an issue. Just don't get SanDisk cards. Buy a good Samsung card and you'll be fine.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] bylaws:
Its not too much slower with a fast SD, and you can use BT joycons docked to console. Someone said they even charge, though can't confirm.

The reply is correct.
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Thank you.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Massasan:
Argue disputed in DM. Deleted because off-top
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Deleted cuz it's off-topic

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@langer hans

I really curious about something when I first watching that Switchroot Android Port on NS.

Does root working? Especially Magisk. As I know Magisk needs boot image to install so if there's no boot image I can't install it.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Magisk works, ByLaws already installed it.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] underd0g:
What SD card did you use? Is there any minimum requirements for good performance?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
I'm personally using a Samsung EVO+ with either 64 or 128 GB. Works fine for me so far.

This has nothing to do with any of the CFW. It runs standalone. Which also means you have the full potential of the CPU and GPU at your hands, so emulation works well. Not sure about viper tho, the audio stuff is fairly complex and I have no idea what the requirements would be.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] audren49:
Will it support dual boot to normal nintendo switch system with catalogue of games?

If so, will it be possible to get the sdcard partitioned to get some space for the nintendo switch system, and the rest for android?

Thanks,
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] beansta2k7:
So, with the switch running Lineage OS, it lacks the ability to pass CTS profile and integrity checks, right?

If so, people wanting to play Fortnuts or Pokemon Go away are going to have a bad time, Magisk or not.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
Correct, reboot2payload doesn’t work yet but should be relatively simple to implement.

And shield-ifier is to make the device think it’s a Shield to make the Nvidia apps work, like game streaming and some games.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] MsMiss:
So why make it optional? Does it come with any consequences and also what does the device it currently is/What do apps think it is?

So we need this to play games like borderlands etc?

Will there be a way to remove it after playing the game?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Because many people are not going to use Shield specific features, and they may not want their Swtich to get recognised as Shield?

So at first you don't want it to be optional, but then you want to remove it?

I guess it's a matter of editing a text file, or creating removal script and flasing it with TWRP? But why do it?

Everybody started talking about Borderlands lately, you know it has not been tested, right? Not all Shield games will be compatible, not mentioning slower clock speeds, etc.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] trohn_javolta:
Can we also get a tutorial on how to integrate android on an existing sd card? Would be nice if we could have HOs stuff and android stuff on the same sd card. I have a spare sd card but Iazy as I am I'd like to avoid having to swap them all the time.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
The shield-ifier will be an extra zip cause we’d really like to be able to do unified builds for all Shields and „Shiled-alikes“. Especially cause we might be able to have official builds at some point and then you can’t have this hack in there. If not applied the device shows up as „icosa“.

About partitioning: Don’t underestimate this. Android alone will need 6 partitions in a GPT scheme with a hybrid MBR applied to it. L4T Linux still relies on a specific partition order, nobody knows how well emummc works in this scheme. The only thing that’s probably easy to get working alongside would be Lakka. That was the whole reason why we wanted to work on AltOS, so we can ship one image and then you select how large you want the fat32 and userdata partitions in a simple GUI. You can’t even create the required partition scheme in Windows as of now iirc…
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xdanilva:
So I guess once you put Android on your SD card the card becomes partition locked? Could you add a tool on windows and linux to temporarily change the partition type then change it back? I know I can use sfdisk but well for people who don't know exactly what they're doing

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It's easier chopping off the 1st partition of l4t Linux with dd then flashing just the system image to a partition. It still works just fine. You can just copy the l4t boot folder to the root of your fat32 partition
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ControlNode:
I'm very interested in this and hoping the gyro and accel sensors are figured out. Without them the one main use I have for Android switch is not possible. Want to run an app while racing that logs accelerometer data, with GPS (from BT) and some inputs from the car (OBD2-BT). Subscribing this section for updates. :fingerscrossed:
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] MsMiss:
So there is no down-side to flashing the shieldefier.zip and should normally be done?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
does the gyro work?

its no mentioned on the "Things that do not work"
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
Sounds like while it's possible to use Horizon and Android on the same memory card it's best to just use a different memory card for horizon.

Since the main functions im interested in are game streaming and netflix im sure a 32gb should be more then enough right? I know i have a spare one from my really old droid lying around somewhere.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Error-404-Go-Home:
Would it be possible to get 1080p Netflix with this: reddit.com/r/xposed/comments/5ki0no/request_netflix_drm_enabler_to_enable_hd/

(I think this might emulate l1 certification??)

Edit: Nope, looks like this just lets Netflix use L1 on already certified devices.

Man this is confusing.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] internetdude01:
I saw there is a portion for CPU overclocking (without the 2.0ghz option sadly, so I'm guess Dolphin is a no go even when docked) but will there be an option for GPU overclocking?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xdanilva:
Does Android take up more CPU?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] nielo360:
How would this work with SX OS? since it wipes the memory what is the method to load hektate via sx os dongle?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ZeroTheSavior:
You have to add the SX OS boot entries back to hekate after
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
I thought it was confirmed Dolphin was working via docked and cpu overclocking. Was this not the case?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] internetdude01:
Yes but in order to get good speeds in Linux you have to use 2.0ghz overclock with some games
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ControlNode:
I'm guessing that screen rotation uses the gyro/accelerometer sensor, so I'm thinking the above would be the "Does not work yet" notice.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] techjunky90:
Will we be able to make the joycons act as a dualshock 4 for remote play?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
To add on to this, LinageOS should have a rotation lock feature, for both Landscape and Portrait. This should allow you to force rotation on command until (or if) gyro was to be patched one day.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] gavin_darkglider1:
I think 32gb should be safe, because the final alpha build image is 32gb. lol. I plan on downloading it later, but I dont have a 32gb card available right now, all of my cards are being used for various linux builds. :(
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] sSHARPZz:
What is the recommended sd card size? For streaming apps and intense “Android games”? I’d like to use it as a tablet a long side it being an actual switch. Cheers for the hard work lads! Also say for games like PUBG would it be better if the switch isn’t detected as a shield tv? I know they cap the specs in game if it’s recognized as weaker device.

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What is the recommended sd card size? For streaming apps and intense “Android games”? I’d like to use it as a tablet a long side it being an actual switch. Cheers for the hard work lads! Also say for games like PUBG would it be better if the switch isn’t detected as a shield tv? I know they cap the specs in game if it’s recognized as weaker device.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] JiyuuTenshi:
I don't think being recognized as a Shield device will have any effects on regular Android apps and games. I think the only thing it does is allow the Switch to access Shield-exclusive content like Nvidia GameStream or games specifically developed for Shield devices, mostly done by Nvidia's Lightspeed Studios.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
I'd say 32GB as a minimum, but personally I'd go for 64GB since it isn't that much more and you'll know you have more than enough space.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] nielo360:
Joycons work in blutooth mode only? will it be possible to make it work naively without Bluetooth in the future or is this a limitation.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Right now they only work through bluetooth, yeah. Same thing goes for L4T Ubuntu. Oddly enough, L4T Lakka has got wired Joy-Cons working, but at the cost of wireless.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] nielo360:
Does the shield package include the gamepad mapper? or do we need to use a 3rd party one?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] ShadyGame:
I hope it comes with the gamepad mapper, I need it :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] gavin_darkglider1:
There are a couple of small limitations. Unfortunatly, the wired joycon driver breaks sleep mode. This will probably be fixed, once lp0 support is finished, as that will actually power off the uart ports, that the joycon uses for data transfer with the console, so wake events from the joycon shouldnt interfere.

Lakka removed wireless driver, because it is harder to set up on lakka, and because retroarch doesnt play well with controllers that were connected/disconnected after it has been started. So if your joycons arent paired before retroarch starts, it wont see them, even if they are connected. When you exit retroarch in lakka, I think it shuts down, but I havnt played with it in like a year, so I dont really know anymore. I have been busy developing gentoo builds for the switch. L4T Gentoo is coming along, but my switch is out of commision, until I get a new sdcard reader for it, as that stopped working today(Unless I put odd pressure on the card reader, then it works. I tried reflowing it, but I think the problem is in the ribbon cable.) Someone asked me if I wanted a broken console that still boots linux, I didnt at the time, but I do now.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
I don't believe it does, what that package does is make Android think your Switch is actually a Shield TV (by modifying some system files) so Shield proprietary software and games will run on it. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, however.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] nielo360:
Strange how no custom os includes a gamepad mapper (or open source ones), the one on gpd/ nvidia tablet are pretty decent, they work for every hid controller. Besides Tincore, which at this point is ancient and tough to use, the other alternative octopus has blocking issues with googly play and adware.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] fennectech:
Will you make a version with a 64 GiB at the end for android and the rest a large fat32 partition thats mounted as sdcard? I dont mind if i need to format things myself I have a 400gb card
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] trohn_javolta:
So if there's a fat32 partition we should just be able to flash the image, mount the fat32 partition and bring togehther the heakte fles, copy over all atmosphere, kosmos stuff and nintendo folder to have both on one sdcard, right? Now with android on the switch I don't care anymore about L4T ubuntu :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
Doesn't the shield have a built in button mapper?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] MsMiss:
If we use the shield-ifier.zip than will we have windvine l1?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xKillerXSmileZx:
So will apps that are compatible with the Shield TV be able to install on this? I just got into the Nvidia GeForce NOW free beta and it would be amazing if it worked. (It's pretty amazing on my PC)

Edit: Never mind I'm an idiot that posted before searching and reading. This is fantastic.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] bylaws:
Nope

Nope

Yeah, i have only made 2gb though

If you run Linux it's pretty simple to do manually
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] bylaws:
We are now testing the final before release to check for any final bugs.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] trohn_javolta:
:crying: Can't we just fire up gparted (or similar) after flashing and expand the partition? Will the fat32 partition be the last one or somewhere in between?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
A few pages ago bylaws stated that gparted will corrupt gpt, gdisk is ok though.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] MsMiss:
So... tomorrow? :D
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] xdanilva:
Probably
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] :
nice
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Cyberratchet:
First of all, I want to thank everyone involved into this project for their hard work.

I just saw the tweet about the supported SD card sizes for the upcoming build. Could you support 200GB cards in the future? They were the best price/gb ratio for quite some time and I don’t think I’m the only one with such a card in their switch.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] thequickfox123:
Wait, where did you see it?

200GB SD is unsupported in the first release?

Earlier ByLaws asked people on Reddit what card sizes they have, and 200GB was a popular answer...
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Cyberratchet:
https://twitter.com/switchroot_org/status/1154107738055761920
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] langer hans:
To clarify: You can use any of the SD card size images on any SD card that is equally large *or larger*. If you flash e.g. a 32GB image on a 64GB SD card you will just end up with 32GB of unused space in the end.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Phillyrider807:
So excited for this release even though it's just a beta. Can only imagine how good this will get int he next couple months (Im sure someone will figure out lp0 widedivne lv1 and button mapping)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] orangekid:
Are there certain Switch models that this works on and certain that it doesn't (like later HW revision models etc)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] singing-potato123:
I have two final questions before imminent release:

Is there a keyboard that allows itself to be controlled using a game pad? Like on consoles.

And is the default android launcher able to navigated using a game pad or will I need to get a tv launcher?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Laurin Neff:
As long as your switch is vulnerable to fusée gelée it should work

You can use https://damota.me/ssnc/checker to check if it's vulnerable
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] Mario119:
Just received a new 128GB U3 microSD Card in the mail today and I'm ready to flash ;)
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] TheMadHeader:
How are SD card 'upgrades' handled?

For example, I currently have a 64GB SD card, if I want to upgrade to 128GB can the data on the 64GB be easily copied to, for example, a 128GB card where the larger capacity will be fully utilized??

I see that the port has individual downloads depending on the SD card size, so maybe a simple copy that utilizes a larger SD card isn't possible right now?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] veerasammy778:
Is there a chance you can get banned from Nintendo switch online or can you use a separate SD card to get around it?
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] EpicLPer:
Maybe, maybe not. So far there hasn't been any report of people getting banned by using Ubuntu on their Switch as example, which this will basically be the same then.

It doesn't touch any of the internal files on the Switch, it purely runs off the SD Card. As soon as you turn the Switch off and back on it'll be as if it was never running Android to begin with.

As long as Nintendo doesn't start detecting exploit files on the SD Card to ban you you're not going to get banned since there is no other way for them to check, tho in Europe as example this could be illegal since they're not allowed to read "personal files" from the SD Card which this would then be the case.
[Nintendo Switch News, Guides, Discussion , Develop] bylaws:
Widevine L1 isn't happening.

1. No, but it will be looked into

2. Yes, but I recommend using hal launcher as it can launch apps in tv mode.

Not possible