yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
[04 OCT 2008] Nike Radio 1.65.28.25

ATW, please add my radio here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=432867

Rapidshare Download - Nike Radio 1.65.28.25
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
thread updated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] yankee1390:
can't change radio!

i changed my tilt from radio 1.59.42.15 to the new nike 1.65.28.25 and now i can't change radios back. i keep getting an error saying rom update failed. i have spl 3.29 installed. is this another radio from hell???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
same here

I went from 1.65.28.25 to 1.71emo... stuck at bootloader:eek:

SPL Cmonex 3.29

reflash back to 1.65.28.25 succsess

just 4 noobs....

DONT UPGRADE TO THIS RADIO!!!

solution waited
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahchek:
Hallo,

I'm in SG too, but SH network, you have battery drains off problem?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I didn't have any trouble changing the radio back, i did it several times. Which spl 3.29 do you have. I think there are three...one from jocky and 2 from cmonex.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
there is someting that make this radio stuck dunno 4 sure, may expert give notes

1.65.28.25 another radio from hell (fixed)

btw comparing

1.58.25.17 cold start:

-about 60s still not locked about 6 satelites viewed

-about 90~120s till it locks

1.71.09.01 cold start:

-about 20s still not locked but 4 satelites viewed

-about 60s till it locks in about 12 satelites viewed 6 satelites locked

location at jakarta

Edit:

4 those who said that 1.71.xx.xx upgrade is worse, try to REMOVE BATTERY for seconds or and HARD RESET after flashing radio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tgranber:
Any more word on the Tmobile 1700 UMTS radio possible?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mystikal87:
I had same issues. The workaround **NOT FIX** was for me to go from SPLv3.29 to v3.56 then flash to radio 1.71EMO then flash back my SPL to 3.29.

Also, can anyone tell me if the SPL affects the performance of the radio cuz i pick up way more satellites with the EMO and SPLv3.29 than the EMO and SPLv3.56. Just a thought.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
I have cmonex 3.29, and have tried every combination of flashing back and forth without any issue related to the radio. I will have to get my backup device and security unlock it to test further, but thus far i have been unable to recreate this issue. This is certainly not another "radio from hell" as it has affected so few users. I will continue to investigate. I'm wondering if maybe it's a bad upload/download situation.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Exactly.

Not being able to flash and being stuck with radio after flashing are two completely different things. I was able to flash via MicroSD no problem.

For anybody else having problems flashing a radio and are receiving RUU errors I suggest that you flash via MicroSD.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gx_rite:
plz advice

plz advice me which works best with

( HyperDragon III OPAL OS 5.2.19971 B. 19971.1.2.6 )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Kaiser radio 1.65.17.54

Another New Kaiser Radio:

Rapidshare - Kaiser Radio 1.65.17.54

Please at it to the first posts :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gx_rite:
TNX but plz can you link anywhere els RAPIDSHARE ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
scotchua thanx for ripping some more radios...im really dying to flash and try...but im kinda worried about 1.65.28.25 being a radio from hell...still awaiting ur confirmation on this...but more importantly, im waiting for your input about the performances of both new radios as i highlly respect ur opinion...(even though i know radios' performance differes depending on location and carrier but still.....)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Just security unlock your device and no radio from Hell can touch you.

Think of it like holy water :eek:

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
My Official Verdict

I really like 1.65.28.25, i'm getting great battery life, and strong GPS reception on it. It is

NOT

a radio from hell. There is only an issue if you're NOT security unlocked, so i recommend you take Daveshaw's advice and splash your phone with holy water (security unlock it), because it's a good idea.

If you're NOT security unlocked, then you might have to flash a different radio (such as 1.65.24.36) before you can upgrade to certain radios (such as emo 1.71.09.01). You absolutely will not be stuck with 1.65.28.25 if you flash it, you will just have to follow what i posted above. Yet again, i will say, this is only if you're not security unlocked. If you plan on flashing radios and roms, i recommend you get security unlocked regardless of what radio you are flashing.

I don't know exactly what is causing the issue; however, i have it on good authority that the radio can be fixed, and should that happen i will post a fixed one instead. Because the radio is NOT a radio from hell, I have decided to go ahead and leave it posted. If anyone disagrees with me on this point, you can feel free to PM me and let me know, and i will consider your reasoning, and of course if you're a mod, then i'll just do it cause you asked ;) Hope this clears everything up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] srsaleenstang:
Mirror

heres a mirror for

Kaiser_Radio_Only_1.65.17.54.zip

and one for

Nike_Radio_Only_1.65.28.25.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Homer280:
Kaiser Radio 1.71.09.01

Switched over to 1.71.09.01 two days ago from 1.65.21.18. Approximately 40% better battery life. Signal strength is slightly better, but connections are significantly better. No GPS data info yet. Reno, NV. One important tip in previous post that made a difference was that after flashing new radio either HARD boot or at least remove and replace battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
@ scotchua and dave

thanx for the input...i am a self proclaimed "radio junkie" my ratio is 3 radios for every 1 rom lol

the thing is i have been flashing roms and radios without CID unlocking my device..i just use hard spl and it always worked for me...i thought that is more practical coz i could always reflash the original spl and rom incase of warrinty...

but hell, i dont think ill need any warrenty now anyways...i might as well CID unlock it to eleminate all issues...ill report later
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] babyface215:
This might be a strange and odd question but i'm kinda

sorta a newby at this. Can the T-mobile G1's Radio be sifted out of the ROM and made into a cab file to be used with the AT&T Tilt to gain access to the 1700MHZ Frequency??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] babyface215:
To add onto that...Would the T-mobile Wings Radio

Work on the HTC/Kaiser/TILT?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
No. You can not make radios into a .cab

No. Do not use a radio from another device it

will

brick your phone.

The only reason we are able to use radios from devices such as NIKI, Polaris, and SEDNA is because we have the same 7200 Qualcomm chipset.

I suggest you try the 1.71.09.01 radio. That is a Japanese radio and if I am not mistaken they use the 1700mhz bandwidth.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] erwinpiero:
Testing new 1.65.28.25 Nike radio, so far yeah, GPS reception was fast will testing for battery drain characteristic
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
So far i've gotten pretty good quality all the way around with that radio, battery life is solid, and call quality is good. GPS seemed noticeably faster to me than usual, but that possibly could be attributed to the sunshine i'm not used to seeing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] babyface215:
Have any of you used the 1.71.09.01 Radio

and had any success or know of anyone who had success with the 1700MHZ Band on T-Mobiles Network? Is that Radio stable for the TILT? Also is the 1.65.28.25 Radio utilizing the 1700MHZ Frequency? And will either of these work with HTC's AT&T Stock ROM? Right now i'm currently running:

R - 1.65.21.18

G - 25.88.40.05H

D - 3.57.00.00
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
1.65.28.25

okay update.....

what i can say honestly about this radio is it has great gps fix..i mean really really good....

battery life i noticed is amazing in stand by mode....i mean if u leave it unused for a certain period it definetly drains so much less then other radios but the momment u use it, it starts resembeling battery consumption of a modorate radio (not too shabby)...

about it being "changable":

i did not CID unlock my phone unfortunatly lol

and i think either SCOTCHUA or DAVE said you have to upgrade to any 1.65 radio 1st then move to ur desierd radio...(one of you guys specifically said 1.65.24.36)

while playing with some registry keys in my rom...i messed it up...so i wanted to reflash my full rom with 1.65.17.56 cooked in...it would not pass 16% and say (write flash error)....

i flashed another ROM without a radio cooked in...then flashed 1.65.24.36 and viola! flash complete...

so just to confirm, u have to flash only to 1.65.24.36 only to be able to change this radio...not any 1.65 radio
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] erwinpiero:
Yeah it's true Scotchua,

Battery performance was the best among, previously i used emo radio, and not as good as this new nike radio. The data speed internet looks like as fast as emo..

To All The Way,

Thanks for Your explanation, now i know why we can use niki's radio. Thank You.

One thing, if i'm not wrong, niki doen't had GPS feature, but it's radio can be used on Kaisers, is GPS function dependent by radio version? Just asking, in reality niki's radio supporting GPS on my kaiser :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] apatcas:
The 2100mhz band is what we should look after... getting the phone to work on that!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eastmushu:
I don't have any battery drain off problem, not even in standby mode... GPS fix without QuickGPS is max 2 minutes as compared to not less than 5 on stock WM6.1 radio (even with QuickGPS updated)...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] malestrom:
Hello everybody.

I've flashed the 1.71.09.01EMO and in Greece its PERFECT!

Cold fix in less than 20 seconds.Reception is excellent and battery is great.I'm comparing it side by side with another Tilt I have and have been trying Radios and this is definitely the one.

I recommend it for users here in Greece!

Take care

:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
So far it works well for mee too

I reinstalled AT&T WM6.1 and flashed the 1.71.09.01EMO radio.

Previously I reverted to AT&T WM6 since IGO8 and Efficasoft GPRS Monitor wouldn't retain the setups.

Now there are no problems.

Anyway, regarding to the new setup:

1. Slightly better phone reception in my basement (where my office is located).

2. Battery performance seems very good. I completed all installations at 01:00 today, and 100% battery. Now it's 09:23 and the battery meter shows 93%. The only things that ran during this period were: emal checks every hour, a NewsBreak update, a SBSH PocketWeather update. Usually they''l eat up the battery, now it seems diminished.

3. GPS TTFF took several minutes, last night under open skies.

I live in Israel.

[EDIT] I went out to measure the GPS fix time, and now again IGO doesn't retain the GPS settings! @^%#*!**#!!! This means that either there's some software compatibility issue, or that either KaiserTweak or the new Advanced Config screw it up...

Now I'll try to remove the apps one by one, or just HR and begin all over [groan]...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gx_rite:
Advice Plz

I AM UPGRADING TO

[6 October 08] HyperDragon III OPAL OS 5.2.19971 B. 19971.1.2.6

BUT I LIKE MY RADIO FROM THE OFFICIAL htc ROM 1.81.415.4

RADIO : 1.27.15.32

SO WAT DO U THINK OR I SHOULD USE ANOTHER RADIO

tnx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
You have to use a new Radio, your current radio is only for WM6, you need to use a WM6.1 Radio.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gx_rite:
tnx

ok any suggestions .. and about the rom do u recommend it or should i try another coz am bored of flashing my device every time i find a new rom then am back to official coz its much stable and no screen jams

tnx for the help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
SJ's ROM is good, SJ suggests Radio use any from here.

Also make sure you upgrade to 3.29 HardSPL (as per the Hard SPL Sticky) - this should stop the "jams".

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fireweed:
AllTheWay, it would be nice to reset the poll and include all the new radios that have come into play. I still use the 1.71 but would be curious to know others experiences with the newer ones.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ralpheboyo:
Poll Idea

...would it be an idea just to have a seperate poll for Nikki and Neon as these are the radios which are being extracted/updated the most??...memebers can then see which are rated the best (Nikki and Neon) and then compare to other radios....just an idea....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
1.65.29.22

guys....anyone try this radio yet 1.65.29.22...im itching to but im still not done with 1.65.28.25
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dy2592:
Can you include like what area they are from on the poll so we can get an idea of how the radio performs there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fireweed:
Been running it all day on HD III Opal and the only difference I noticed compared to 1.71 is it worse on the battery. It also requires security unlock similar to 1.65.28.25.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
I've neen using it for about 2 days

I installed several of NATF's ROMs, finally settling on the ATT_NATF_v3.2.5_ATT_Home version, and installing all my other apps.

I've been at this for over 3 days (flashing, reverting to the original WM6 ROM, then the new ATT WM6.1 ROM, etc, while trying out my various apps).

Bottom line (compared to the WM6 1.27.14.09 radio I had):

1. Battery seems better. eg, in 7 hours of very slight use (mostly standby, but including automatic updates of Newsbreak, SHSBK PocketWeather and email checks every hour) - I'm down to 93%. This seems to me slightly worse than yesterday.

2. GPS TTFF is about 5 minutes (seems worse).

3. Subsequent GPS fixes take about 2 minutes (again, worse, it used to take less than 30 seconds). I have QGPS files automatically updated. I've read that WM6.1 doesn't use them. How can I verify this? Because if true, this would explain the long subsequent GPS fixes.

4. Reception inside my house is definitely better, including some "dead spots".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
What we need is for a chef to create a tool that runs on the handset for a period of time and monitors signal strength, battery levels, whether it is using GSM/UMTS/HSDPA and whether there is a active data connection and then logs all this information to a file say every hour.

When being run for the first time it asks the user to input their Location, Carrier and handset information from drop down lists.

It would then continue to run in the background for as long as the user wanted to provide information for.

Log files could be created daily which would allow participents to upload completed logfiles to the chef (over the air or via the web).

Once the chef has the logfile they can upload this information to a database.

If we get enough participents and information uploaded we could then query the database and find out which radio works best in what area and have the best battery performance, etc.

Thoughts? Takers?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
that would be an amazing tool but i really doubt it can be done....and i've noticed carrier's affect radio performance in a major way...

whats my evidence?

the EMO radio...the highest voted radio in the poll...in my area it is great in every aspect except it is a major battery KILLER!....my carrier had a role in that....so yeah i add my vote to create a radio performance software
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Just as a side note to this, it's not usually the chef's that develop software. Typically people on here do one or the others, there aren't a lot of software developers that also cook. So the reality is that something like this might come from someone nobody even knew was on the forum before they got the great idea to create something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ralpheboyo:
1.65.29.22

ok just switched over to this radio and first impression....call me ignorant but i cant really see any diff between 1.65.28.25. and 1.65.29.22...both work well for me.....however i will be going back to my beloved 1.65.24.36 simply because i am just too lazy to security unlock.....in short..for me personally its not worth it....I just wish emo radio would not cheeeeeeeeeeeew up my battery so much......thas life....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
More impressions - EMO radio

Very good battery life. I'm now at 50% battery, after 18 hours of moderate use.

With the standard ATT WM6 battery I would get to this point within about 6-7 hours.

But GPS TTFF is very bad, over 5 minutes (usually), and now the latest (after a HR and restore from SPB Backup - over 15 minutes! Subsequent GPS fixes also take a while - over 2 minutes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
Regardless of what radio you choose to use, i strongly recommend you security unlock your device. It can always be relocked later, but if you wait until you need it to do it, then you will regret it. Just some advice. It's not something you'll regret doing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pwrpnt:
Need help unlocking an HTC TyTnII

Hello, I own a Kais130, HTC, TyTnII with R:1.27 15 32 , G: 22 51 88 13, D 1 82 00 00.

I have already tried KAIS_Radio_Only_1.27 15 32, Kaiser hard spl 3.56, KaiserUnlocker. I have used three different PCs, with clean Vista and XP, with the PDA just hardresseted and clean, with and without sim.

The farthest I managed to go was to see the bar in the PC and the PDA, it always remains in 0% and ends up with update error [262] communication error.

Would you please point me to a solution? I need to unlock the CID so I can flash a Spanish Language ROM.

I am willing to donate if I can get the solution.

Thanks

Hector

I
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] schizo:
Well i'm itching to find answer to my post in other thread: 1. Why/how could it be possible that a radio build for other device can - not only - work, but beat performance of radio build specifically for the device itself? Despite the same chipset?

2. If that principle can be use, then is it also applicable for device which share same chipset? Like Trinity vs Hermes, and Diamond vs Touchpro? What factors affect the applicability, and what hinders it if there any?

Maybe someone can answer my curiousity? Or the answer is still only: try and figure. Hehe...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ralpheboyo:
anyone else notice this

...ohhhh sorry but forgot to mention while I was testing the last two niki radios 1.65.28.25. and 1.65.29.22 i would insert my chrage and check after approx 10-15 min and i could not believe what i saw...from being 10-15% down after 15-20 min charge time the battery percentage was at 85-90%...sorry but that just FREAKED me out....:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rickcaudill:
I love this thread-a big TY to the xda team...

Just a thought, (since this site is so popular & diverse) can we look to start region setting these radios... IE polling so we can find out what ones work best in what part of the world. Yes, I've played with 5-7 of them and I got the few that work best for me, but I travel alot, and I'm a curious MF :P

Also I think it would help cut back (some) of the noob Q's...

I was thinking keep the radios all in this thread, but set forth ideas for where the regions would be and link them back to this tread to grab the radios...

Just a though, either way, you guys/gals rock! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Why was the EMO radio removed from the poll?

It had by far the most votes....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Well, yes, it should be no problem

The main thing is to pre-define a standard tabulation for the poll (ie - what exactly do we want to measure, what would be the ordinal scale).

So for example, we would like to measure:

1. Battery life in hours (under light/medium/heavy load). eg 10 hours, medium load.

2. GPS TTFF (minutes). eg - 10 minutes.

3. GPS average time (minutes) to subsequent fixes. eg - 0.5 minute

4. Was AGPS enabled or not. eg - NO

5. Was AGPS updated prior to testing or not. eg - YES

6. Were there any problems encountered with WIFI (yes/no). ie - was the user able to browse etc using WIFI after installing the new radio. eg - NO

7. Were there any problems with 3G (assuming the service was available to the user) - yes, no, N/A (not applicable, since the user does not have 3G). eg - NO

8. Country/State/Network

9. Phone reception quality (number of bars?)

10. BT reception quality (this one is a bit harder. was there any echo? crackling? etc)

This sort of tabulation would somewhat minimize subjective reports (eg "not so bad", "great"..) and later enable the creation of an excel based database, so that standard statistical tools (eg variant analysis, linear regression) could be employed.

Also it might be important to know what exactly was used to produce the load (item #1). eg - automatic SBSH PocketWeather updates every 6 hours, automatic NewsBreak updates every 4 hours, automatic email checks for 2 accounts every hour, 12 SMS messages, 6 minutes of voice calls, 16 minutes of GPRS browsing using PIE, 5 minutes of 3G browsing using Opera mini).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xxprincecjxx:
Will you lose any saved information on your phone after flashing radio's? Obviously you would lose anything on a storage card due to the formatting of the storage card but would u lose anything on your phone i.e. hhc configurations, weather bug config, reinstallation of anything? Or is it like flashing a rom onto your phone and u will lose everything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dave_1234:
You wont lose anything. I'm sure this is already covered in this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xxprincecjxx:
Thanks man. I've read the entire thread and not once did anyone mention anything about loseing data. They talk about it on the rom page but not on radio page. Another question...Would i flash a radio from my pc the same way from my card? Enter boot loader screen, press power button WITHOUT schc micro card, and will bootloader know to check my pc with usb cable attached or do i have to uncheck disable activesync like on the flashing rom page. I'm a little confused here becasue it only states how to flash a radio from a sdhc card and not from pc. Reason i rather do it from a pc is so i don't have to format my sdhc card and lose all my info on it... Thanks for the quick reply appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bkh_0538:
Need some information

Dear all,

I need some information, can the Nike radio 1.65.28.25 work in Japan frequency?

Does a kind of radio influence the volume of the handset? Because I've tried to use the Nike radio and I feel increasing in volume.

Tqvm b4.