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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sledge007:
I totally agree, my P30 Pro has a lot better reception than my LG G6.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
Only debate i have is do i risk getting the p30 pro, and eventually at some random point loose Gapps etc support, or cancel it and go with something else?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sledge007:
I'm 3 weeks past the point of returning my phone. I have called Bell Mobility to ask what their stance is on this now that I have a phone that will never be updated.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] compunerd3:
Same situation as me. Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to gain traction
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sledge007:
I'm not expecting anything but it doesn't hurt to ask. I keep reiterating the fact we will not get any Android system updates that cover regular security patches. They told me they don't even know but I'll keep pestering them and see if they offer any sort of compensation but again I'm not holding my breath on it.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
UPDATE
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ElectronicsOverhaul:
Use zero Google or maintream apps on my Huawei phone. For me, this is a plus.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Sledge007:
Enlighten me how this is a plus for you... You may feel indifferent, which is fine but to imply 'plus' implies a gain. What have you gained from this?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
You are not losing any update ability......for now

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Read the news, it doesn't work that way

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Yes. Just like windows mobile. How successful they are

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R u saying microsoft is is small company?

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Customs rom won't solve the problem, without google service, the phone is severe handicapped

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You buy an expensive phone just to stay away from google and mainstream apps? You must be rich.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mook699:
If the mobile business is only being affected due to the US concern linked to 5G networking, why doesn't Huawei split the businesses apart as independent companies to avoid these issues.

Obviously this wouldn't be ideal but it would be better than losing their mobile position.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
90 day reprieve just announced & in 90 days a new agreement will be done.... Trump says stuff as scare tactics then people that actually know what the situation is start making what really needs to go happen. The fact is that too much cellular infrastructure is reliant on Huawei, USA and aboard. The other manufacturers for the cost, quality, etc. will not be able to meet the demand for 5G so like it or not this administration will work with Huawei.

Also, as reiterated about a billion times from reliable news services... current devices won't lose anything. Even security updates, they will just come out slower. I have both the P30 Pro and the OnePlus 7 Pro... Guess which one has security patches from March and which one has the most recent patches..... P30 Pro has the most recent... Still waiting for April patches for OnePlus 7 Pro even though it needed an OTA right out of the box...

People need to actual READ and stop just glancing at clickbait headlines..... Here are the actual bottom lines:

1. The Reprieve means in short term ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS CHANGING with how the P30 Pro or any Huawei Phone works with Google or Android... If you are getting rid of your P30 Pro because of the fear of losing "google apps" then I pretty sure there's a ton of well informed people ready to buy the phones while you take a loss in resell due to panic selling flooding the market.

2. USA / World network infrastructure is too reliant on Huawei currently and moving forward.... as with the banks during the USA Mortgage Crisis, "It's too big to fail...." at this point

3. Most "headlines" on this subject are CLICK BAIT. actually read

4. Just like Trump not knowing what tariffs are, he knows nothing about global telecommunications. He will say a lot of stuff as scare tactics.... in the end, its all lip service to make sure he, his cronies and maybe a little bit of the USA get a piece of the pie flavored 5G...

5. This lip service helps to slow down 5G rollouts so USA can become more competitive in the 5G space.... Phones, Google services, etc. is just the collateral damage, if you can even call it that, because once again, NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN!

Stop trying to make fire with 2 wet sticks.... there's nothing there.....
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Seelbreaker:
So how should it work that we get Android/Security Fixes trough the Play Store? It's not like Android on the P30 Pro is purely stock.

This would be the first time that i get updates from Google directly on a phone which does not come from Google, therefore i can't imagine that...
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
Huawei is still issuing updates.... they've always have... AOSP means they will just push these slower as google makes security updates available to AOSP.... ANYWAY, like mentioned above, the extension proves that it is far from over.... next 90 days days, nothing changes from current. After 90, it would be AOSP but it won't ever come to that point.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kksnis:
It is not the monthly security update, it is the security from Google Play Protect which the tweet has mentioned.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EnormoDerClown:
Also don´t get the extreme hype. Yes this is worse than it is now, but for us which already have the phone nothing really will change i think. Even IF they permanently ban huawei, huawei cook´s it´s own rom, so the updates which arrived never arrived from google. All get´s published in AOSP and is than customized by them.

Basically they have to work now as custom rom developers, compile AOSP by their needs and AOSP is always a sign "for something good" which a loot people want. So (again for people who already own a Huawei! Future phones are maybe screwed) i don´t think there will be a lot different, maybe minimal slower updates because huawei can not take a look in current development, but just AOSP (like Android Q Beta is not available anymore and such) .

Nevertheless, yes this is bad and totally moronic.......
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ElectronicsOverhaul:
Less bloat and more privacy, the apps you use are extremely different for sure. May have gained nothing regarding the P30 Pro but eventually slower updates. I don't like to jump to conclusions regarding current and future devices even though it may have been implied that. Development of another mobile OS if that even happens would be good thing especially from a big player to where it would have an effect. I preferred BlackBerry 10 over Android.

Rich is relative. There should be no reason for you to assume someone’s wealth just because someone owns a less than 950 USD smartphone. 1,000 USD is such a tiny amount that many poor people have the more expensive phones.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] warea:
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-android-alternative-fall-2019/
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
Huaweis new os. A home cooked version of aosp or some brand new Linux Thingy?

Latest news says Huawei claimed even faster Android apps if compiled for the os. Smells tweaked aosp

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Reportedly, "far from ready"

https://9to5google.com/2019/05/21/huawei-project-z-android/
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] milangenije:
Its not looking good for Huawei users

https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_...ogram-amp-37152.php?__twitter_impression=true
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MaZeNsMz:
Hey guys, don't know why U make it a big deal.

All what we need is unlocking the boot loader, and that's it, if Huawei did that for us everyone will buy Huawei.

Because everyone will be able to do everything, it will be advantage for Huawei devices.

So all google services apps can be installed that time.

For the updates, Huawei can get it from the open source.

I think this also will bring the devices price down, another advantage!

That's it,
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hackdrag0n:
I said exactly what I said. Don't try and put words into my mouth just for the sake of being an argumentative twat.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jult:
Exactly what I've been telling them;

Dear Huawei Technologies,

Don't despair. Be the first brand to work with LineageOs and drop all your Google Privacy Breachers Unlimited Inc. dependencies. The users will thank you for it.

Oh and be sure to offer customizable bootloaders, and open source your hardware-control drivers. You'll be the biggest smartphone brand in no time.

Nobody in their right mind buys into trump's spy-stories. Besides, Snowden anyone?

Thanks in advance and good luck!
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ktouy:
This seems the smartest move to became unstoppable...

Just bought P30 pro, no regrets at all... Google it's not Android
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-android-alternative-fall-2019/

After the news of Google revoking Huawei’s Android license, many assumed that they would simply build an OS based on AOSP. It may not be that simple. They may not be able to use any OS that contains copyright belonging to a U.S. company. So this news of Android app support is a pretty big deal since other Android alternatives, such as Tizen, do not support Android apps out of the box.

The Information‘s report differs greatly from what was reported earlier. Rather than being ready this Fall or early next year, they claim the OS is “far from ready.” It is reportedly being referred to as “Project Z” internally. The report also claims this OS would rely on 3rd-party developers to create apps for it, which may shoot down the idea of Android apps being able to run on the OS.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shaunydub:
Microsoft couldn't make Android run on Windows Phone well enough for release so will be interesting to see if / how Huawei manage it.

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
Huawei in talks with Aptoide , to fill up playstore space.

https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-replace-google-play-store-aptoide-appgallery/

Update:

Qualcomm, Intel,Xilinx, Broadcom break ties with Huawei.

UK carriers EE and Vodafone have dropped Huawei phones from their 5G launch plans.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
Huawei is losing ARM license as well, they are screwed.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
I'm just going to go ahead and cancel my order from B&h. I'll switch to the S10 plus, or something else
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raffratz:
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Yes. Just like windows mobile. How successful they are

Huawei is working on an operating system that should be compatible with Android. It should also have a compiler that translates normal APPs into their OS. That should bring up to 20 percent more performance. Microsoft was compatible with nothing ...

Greetings Raffi
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] glovesave:
I'm hoping as my P30 pro is 3 weeks old now. But unless they make a miracle deal this seems worse and worse. Add to it that this can then happen any time. Huawei apparently aren't ready either (with an os).

I'm not ready to switch app stores... Sigh
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] warea:
Whatever situation Huawei might be, it is no justification to buy S10 series especially the Exynos version with older 10nm chipset, poor battery life, performance & camera.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
I have the ability to always re-order. We have the snapdragon version here in the USA, So no worries.

EDIT: Looks like B&H is pulling them form their site also.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
I have an openbox s10+ 1tb at work. Snapdragon model. Id never buy an Exynos model.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] warea:
The S10 plus 5g would be more future proof.

The current S10+ is that phone which is waiting to be thrashed in camera department by the upcoming iPhone.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
In no way will I go 5g when it's barely alive. Not to mention the extra costs. No 5g expected here for a while
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
To all those sticking with the phone and sticking with Huawei - especially those willing to use a whole new OS - I commend your courage. Personally I sent mine back following this.

1) Resale value is important to me. If the value of these handsets falls off a cliff then it would be bad news for me as I like to switch phones fairly often so losing hundreds and hundreds of pounds in resale would be a disaster, and I couldn't afford it.

2) I don't think EMUI is particularly well designed, so my hopes for an entire platform designed by Huawei are not great

3) The phone isn't entirely better than anything else - battery life is good, it's nicely built and the camera options are excellent (if not universally better at snapshots than other alternatives) - but other phones offer better displays, speakers, expandable storage and other options.

Good luck to all those sticking with their P30 Pro though
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ElectronicsOverhaul:
Last I read, many people were having connectivity issues with Galaxy S10 5G when it switched from 5G to LTE causing it turn off data service making people have to reboot the phone. Unsure if this has been fixed or can be fixed.

Regarding the P30 Pro, I would imagine the resell price value would increase provided the current situation. I'll be keeping mine.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
If resale value is that important, you're probably better off buying iPhones. Look at how much even Samsung S10s are going for, new.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Daleboi19:
What I sent to Huawei ..Will the p30 pro still get android q as it comes out within the 90 days Google have lifted the ban for

The reply I got ...

Hi, Dale! Thank you for your message.

Existing users/devices, including those that have been sold or products still in stock will not be affected at all. In regards to Android Q, please pay attention to our upgrade announcement for relevant information.

We remain at your assistance, take care!
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] carbonize:
I just skimmed through this and seen a lot of people posting rubbish they know nothing about. Huawei will always have access to AOSP since its open source and free therefore it not classed as Google doing business with them. Losing the ARM design rights will only affect future phones not current devices since they've already been made. And Trump will have to survive the upcoming investigations and next years elections otherwise his replacement will just lift the ban.

Having said that Trump has just proven that the ban has nothing to do with security risks.

https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-trump-trade-deal-dangerous-990118/amp/
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
They planned to release HongMeng os this fall, so you will get an upgrade but not android q
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] lawtq:
Maybe this is good. (he says to himself unconvinced)

Android is all too powerful. Could this cause other companies to create their own os? I'd like that
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kyero985:
Trump just stated that Huawei is "dangerous" yet is willing to work with them if they can get some sort of trade deal agreed.

Not sure if he realizes he's just contradicted himself or proofchecks his notes before saying things...

And then a few months ago, he also said can assist with the CFO case if China are willing to budge on the trade deals too.

Not sure how to take this seriously when it keeps going back to matters of money.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
Welcome to the modern world. Money money money. How can we extort you now?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xnostra:
all current huawei phone including the p30 the honor 20 and the upcoming mate 30 is not affected by the ban google/android already tweeted that and confirmed only future devices is affected by the ban. also just to inform the apps and playstore is the only one that is banned you can still access gmail and maps using the normal browser this is the one thing a lot of people miss and not informed.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raffratz:
I am pretty sure that the President has been informed by the NSA that in the future you will hardly be able to spy on people when more Huawei cell phones are sold…

Greetings Raffi
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] CD555:
The next ban will likely be to network operators who will be forced not to accept huawei terminals.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raffratz:
Next, china will certainly react and ban us products and that will hurt ... At the moment, more us companies are falling in value like Huawei

Greetings Raffi
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] CD555:
I think Apple will be China's first response. Convincing enough.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
The issue is by waiting for AOSP, basically the update for Huawei users will be delayed compared to other manufacturers.

Google planned to update security updates and others through playstore in android q. So if Huawei sticks to android, they will have delayed security update in future by waiting for AOSP release.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] carbonize:
Given that by being in this thread you would have a Huawei you should know they ain't speedy with updates anyway
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
Huawei won't have any issue for now. But after 90 days and the issue is not resolved, Huawei will face a lot of issue. Huawei will have only 1 year time to become the next Apple, by making everything by its own or failed.

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But now the speed will get even worse. Huawei was taken out from Android q beta program. So when others going to release new flagship end of the year with android q, Huawei will not be there.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raffratz:
It is one think to update an OS like ASOP the other think is to deliver it's own security update for that ;)

Greetings Raffi

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Have you ever thought that the delays in the past were caused by google and not by Huawei ;)

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I do not think HongMeng is based on ASOP in the future

Greetings Raffi
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Daleboi19:
Watched the value of the p30 pro drop massively over 3 days from resale price cant risk it any more loved the phone but had to cut my losses I'm not paying 45£PM for a phone that isn't going to be worth that in a couple weeks time so had to sell up and go for a s10 attest there still holding there value
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hunhool:
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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shaunydub:
Trumps comments show it is about money and not security.

As soon as China and USA make a deal this will all be forgotten.

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Daleboi19:
Just watched the price drop once again this morning gone from almost getting near 500-600£ now ur getting around 285£ if u are able to sell privately ur get a asking price of around 400-500£ if ur lucky also seen that about 40 phones in my local Facebook buy and sell all trying to sell up with no luck
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] torickray:
Oh dear

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...-pro-comes-crashing-down-to-130/#217da12215a9
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] raffratz:
I thought so far always that a mobile phone is to use and not the price if I bought it ... Who sells now just loose money and nothing else ;)

Greetings Raffi
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] carbonize:
Exactly. You bought a phone not shares in the company. And once either China and the US has a trade agreement or Trump losses power (or gets assassinated) the ban will be lifted.

The only reason the value of the devices are dropping is because of people panic selling them
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shaunydub:
Yup, I thought people on here were more aware of tech and less prone to panic. [emoji17]

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] collindubya81:
Any chance there will be some supported custom ROMs for this phone? For the specs at 140$ it's a total steal
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] carbonize:
Highly unlike as the boot loader is locked.

Although Huawei offering the unlock codes for free again and helping devs could be a good way for them to bypass the ban. Maybe support LineageOS
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DoobyDroid:
I was dead set on the p30 pro mainly for the camera but when I went to upgrade the sales advisor at virgin mobile strongly advised me to not get that phone this was the day it was announced and they had been informed , so at least they was being honest and not just wanting to get shot of stock quick , it probably wouldn't of bothered me after the coming days it became clearer that it mostly will effect models not yet released , but at the time she put it that I'd probably have to end up exchanging it and that's a pain with virgin I've been without a phone 2/3 weeks before when I exchanged , so wasn't going down that road again so played it safe and went with the s10+ kinda glad now seeing that the value is dropping like a hookers knickers , I'm sure Huawei will pull something out the bag there to big now not to , maybe are get the mate 30 pro when all the hype settles ,Lol
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ptlsajan:
Anyone got april update along with camera enhancement?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Vuska:
Will buy P30 Pro... only if Huawei give an option to unlock bootloader...

No twrp.. no magisk.. No huawei for me..
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ihuman007:
I think OnePlus 7 might be a better option. Or even the pixel 3a
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leo72793:
Im not a fan of the 1+7p. The 3a is na. The entire pixel line to me feels like a childs toy. I havent liked them since the original. Not to mention the issues where people are having them randomly shut down for no reason

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Practically the same here except i buy unlocked outright. Rather not have carrier bloat and take it where i want. I was dead set on the p30p for that camera man. I drooooooooled when they announced it and people got their hands on units to review. Sadly i am s10+ 1TB and its very premium, just lacks the responsiveness of the EMUI skin and overal feeling. Plus the battery efficiency is NO WHERE as good. i have the 855 sd model
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] carbonize:
Then why are you even in the Huawei section of the forum?

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Bit worrying to read a lot of posts where the persons primary concern of the resale value of the device as opposed to the quality and functionality.