yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
Tried KAIS_Radio_Only_1.70.18.02

Slightly worse battery than the EMO radio.

Slightly worse phone reception inside the house.

Slightly better (faster) GPS TTFF and subsequent fixes than the EMO radio, but far worse than the WM6 ATT radio.

Wifi worked OK.

GPRS worked OK.

Did not try 3G.

I previously tried the NIKI_Radio_Only_1.58.21.23, but it did not perform well GPS-wise, so I immediately installed the 1.70.18.02 radio.

Am flashing the new NIKI_1.65.29.22.

So far the best battery life and other comm options (phone reception, etc) has been the EMO radio, but it also had the worst GPS fix times.

So, to summarize my experience in the past few days:

1. EMO radio - see above.

2. KAIS 1.70.18.02 - see above.

3. Standard ATT WM6.1 ROM radio - mediocre phone reception inside the house, bad battery life, very good GPS fix times.

4. NIKI 1.58.21.23 - see above.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] F2504x4:
Can we get this page updated ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
There aren't any new radios to include there? What do you want updated?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thebestguru333:
Battery Useage

My setup before, i was using the 1.65.24.36 radio with the HD III rom.

My battery life is really poor with this setup. I usually browse the web for maybe 15 - 20 minutes a day on average. Talk time varies but is never more than 30-40 minutes. bluetooth is on always and sometimes i use my bluetooth headphones to listen to music... at most 20 minutes. I use text messaging also.

Currently i just flashed the 1.71.09.01 radio and after 10 minutes of browsing and 10 minutes of talking, the battery went down to about 80%.

I have an At&t tilt... What could be the reason why i am getting such bad battery life? is it my battery? or is this something everyone is experiencing with the tilt?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
best battery results

ok....here are my experiences regarding radios with best battery performance i.e battery conservation:

1-1.58.25.17

it came out the same time as 1.65.24.36, some say it's the equivalent but with better battery life

pros: great data connection speed, good gps

cons: i have yet to find any but in a very very few ppl they noticed quick battery drainage but the great majority report excellent battery performance (including me)

2-1.59.42.15 polaris

one of the newly ripped radios

pros: noticeable volume enhancement in all aspects (calls, rings, etc...), great reception...

cons: i wouldnt call it a con but gps is only slightly better than average not super fast

3-1.65.17.56 kais

pros: one of the most regarded radios in terms of battery life

cons: reception is lower than other radios and thats a con!!!

4-1.65.21.18 (a usually ignored and overlooked radio)

pros: a highly balanced radio on all fronts (data connection,gps,battery etc..)

cons: none to be mentioned
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
My vote for the BEST radio I've tested (AT&T Tilt)

Hi,

In a previous post in this thread, I wrote about several radios I've tested during the past few days.

Since yesterday I've been using the Niki 1.65.29.22.

It's now 20 hours since I installed the radio, and still have 63% battery left. In the EMO radio I had "only" 50% left (and this was amazing as well, as previously my batteried would die within 10 hours).

I just went out to test GPS TTFF, and obtained it within 40 seconds (cold start)! Absolutely the best I've ever had.

So this radio is absolutely the best I've had with my Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Starfury:
That was what I was suggesting but using a tool that collects the information to a standard so it isnt skewed by peoples opinions

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2757318&postcount=513
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
More or less.

But the main thing is that I was trying to formalize the parameters to be collected.

Obviously it'd better to have a formal tool, as you suggested, not an excel (as I suggested). But since it seems that developing such a s/w is not trivial, I suggested an immediately available alternative.

The important thing is that members here pick up the idea and begin sending in data.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
its near impossible to come up with s/w that will give accurate or reliable results...

im saying this because of the different variants that play a role in the radio's performance..meaning ROM and CARRIER...and SPL in a way...

different combos of the above mentioned 3 give different results with the same radio right? now u have to put that into consideration and THEN only try to provide a standard of usage like:

1-regular hourlay weather updates

2-15 min WIFI

3-20min bluetooth

4-GPS cold and warm fix

5-20 min GPS use

6-seven 5 min phone calls

and then report the results....

for example..you talked about the EMO radio with good battery? i used it and it chwed up my battery...and we live in the same region so its carrier, rom, and spl!!! that made us have different experiences
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
You're probably right

It's rather annoying that it's virtually impossible to have some standard reference values for comparison.

The only way (maybe) would be if several members would flash a specific version of a ROM, install nothing else (language customization apps, etc), just define say a POP3 mail account and 2-3 other apps that would all be set up exactly the same, and all use the same NAVSAT app (say google maps, that is free), and so on.

But even this is rather complex (the coordination)...........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
forgot location

@ wisniak

i forgot to mention location lol which is different from carrier...proven by the fact that our amarican cda members have reported differences in the same radio in 2 cities with the same radio and they are both on the AT&T network...

the points u mentioned are a step in the right direction...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wisniak:
If we're able to pull it off, we'd probably get the Nobel prize...

First, for conduction an internationally coordinated test (this reminds me of cooperative computing, where they would "chain" hundrends of thousands of PCs all over the world, and each would run a small part of a large computing task, and then they'd collate the results).

Second, we two would probably get the Nobel Peace Prize.... :-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] u2pop:
Hey Erwin, me too just flashed 1.65.28.25 Nike radio. Been superb since then using same operator as yours and same ROM from NATF. Battery, GPS and signal receptions very good.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ralpheboyo:
Errrrrrrrrrrr

...if everone is jumping on to the new Niki radio´s found/extracted by alltheway 1.65.29.22 and scotchua 1.65.28.25

can someone please tell me why the polls indicate a complete dif story.....(I have already voted on this thread so i cant vote again)...but my point is this can be quite misleading.....or am i missing the bigger picture again.....r
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
i refrained from voting lol....

it's nearly impossible to vote man....i was a hardcore niki/neon fan...then i became a polaris radio fan....then i returned to my roots of KAIS radios...

every other day another radio is ripped from either different devices or another kais radio is released...and that particular moment of flashing u think u found the "ultimate" radio...then u try another one and say "oh man! this one is way better!"....and this cycle goes on and on and on....

thats my opinion atleast :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mmtea:
Best Radio for Jack 2.6

Hi All,

I have Jack 2.6 ROM with 1.65.21.18 radio. This radio signal seems to be weak for ATT's network. Any suggestion on radio to improve the signal strength of the Tilt and working seamlessly with Hack's V2.6 ROM.

Thx All....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Juang3d:
I'll post again because no one has answered me.

I have a great problem, i flashed a lot of radios, all is working but when i enable 3G connection it looses the connection, can someone help me please, right now i have the manila 3D rom (but i has the spanish official rom until today) and the radio that i have right now is 1.65.28.25, i'm in spain with vodafone, maybe vodafone has a problem with WinMOBO 6.1, 3G and the Kaiser ??? please help me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
What Radio version did you have before you flashed the manila 3D ROM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Juang3d:
Yes, but the problem was since i upgraded to win mobo 6.1, no matter what radio i test, i cannot connect to 3g/hdspa, when i am in gprs all is ok, but when the device connects with the 3g network, then it looses its ocnnection, i even tried to change the hard spl and unlock the sim, but all is the same, when i connect through 3g/hdspa network, the device loose its connection
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Well since your phone connects fine in WM6, I don't know per say if it's radio related.

What country and mobile carrier do you have? I know that many ROM's have a connection wizard that comes up after installation that helps with MMS and data connections.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] freee_guy:
Updating optional info in User CP

Sorry for posting something off topic.But if all of the users who post here update their country and service provide which is in the User control panel it would avoid a lot of unnecessary posts which says where are you from and who is ur service provider. And IMO it will help in easily finding out if the radio someone is raving or slamming would be useful for us too... small thoughts.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Juang3d:
I'm from spain, and i'm with vodafone, i don't use the connection wizard because i configure my connection manually, maybe i should try to let the wizard to configure it, and then add my connection, i'll try.

+1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Juang3d:
I tried to let the autoconfig to config the pone, and i'm still loosing my connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Zero|Cool:
I currently have radio 1.27.something and i need some adivce. Which ROM do you advise to install? I want one with a good performance, low battery drain and stable. Is there any? :p

btw, to use in Portugal ^^
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xxprincecjxx:
Try them out for yourself until you find one which fits YOU. A person cannot answer this question for you UNLESS there running the same rom as you, they live in the same region as you, and they have the same carrier service as you. For an example a lot of hype has been going on about the new Niki radios. So i decided to try a couple out and neither impressed me. I have at&t and live on the eastside of the u.s.a. with 6.1 at&t stock rom...

So your best bet is to try diffrent radios out until you find one which suits you...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
yup.....thats the sad truth :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Pisca:
If you are about to upgrade to WM 6.1

I sugest 1.65.24.36, for the Rom I'm quite happy with the one in my signature, note that this ROM includes another radio, which is quite nice also

Don't forget to upgrade your SPL, 3.29 real nice also
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flying Kiwi:
Has to match the O/S version

As the OP has a 1.27 series radio, that's meant for a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM whereas the 1.65.xx.xx radios are for WM 6.1. This means the op will need to stay with the Windows Mobile 6.0 Radios (that can be found listed in the wiki) unless an 'upgrade' (and I use the term deliberately in quotes) is preferred :eek:

Personally I find the combination I currently have shown in my sig to be the smoothest and most reliable. GPS performance is excellent although the battery life is, as has always been the case, pretty poor, only getting a day between recharges and sometimes needing to swap to a spare battery late in the day.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thedrizzle:
dont know how many folks there are on Death Star in the Pacific Northwest, but...the best radio i've used so far is the new niki 1.65.29.22. i get a cold gps lock after soft reset in under 40 seconds, and the battery life is phenomenal. most of the radios for wm 6.1 work well for me in the Boise area, but this one is exceptional and i would highly recommend it to everyone; may not work wherever in the world you are but i would at least give it the old college try. BTW i am now an admitted flashing junkie :D and have used about every radio out there, and the 1.65.29.22 niki is still the best, by far.

/my $.02

[EDIT]

Forgot to mention...enough props cant possibly be given to AllTheWay for this thread, organizing all the radio ****e, and DEFINITELY for finding/leaking/ripping/posting/otherwise disseminating all these radios, the 1.65.29.22 in particular. ATW kicks dump-truck-loads of ass, many thanks man!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Superjuani:
Best Radio For Me.!

:) .Hi everybody. :)

I've flashed the Niki 1.64.29.22 and work PERFECT...!!!!

Reception is excellent and battery is great. I'm comparing it side by side with another Tilt I have and have been trying Radios and this is definitely the one.

So this radio is absolutely the best I've had with my Tilt.

I recommend it for users.

Take care

P.D: Compared with Niki 1.64.28.25 battery life is better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Gator5000e:
Can anyone in the Central Florida/I-4 Corridor/Orlando area list what radio(s) works best for them? I have tried to search but as the search function does not look at the Location portion of the user panel, I can not find anything that way. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Flash different radios and see which one works best for you ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nallyvaico:
The Neon didn't impress me at all, but Niki 1.65.29.22.....

After 2 hours:

1) excellent GPS lock. While I had taken a 5 min cold boot for granted, 2 min on this radio impressed me... And it did it quite easily. Kudos!

2) excellent call quality. My wife uses 3 different phones with 3 different operators :)))))) The worst of them - Life) - has such a poor quality that I often have to hang up and recall another phone. Not this time! We both have been amazed!

3) Finally, can't comment on battery life yet - I am on wifi, which sucks up power as before. This test will need some time

In a word, so far I am content...

Also, the 3G/Edge connectivity doesn't bug me - I am on GSM only, and have a different phone and different SIM card for 3G. So, my biggest concern is call quality, gprs, gps, and battery life... Call quality on 1.65.17.56 was something to grumble about...

AFTER 1,5 DAYS OF USE

Well, after 1,5 days of active use it is now obvious this radio does suck power, maybe 10-15% more than radio 1.65.17.56 I had had before. It is excellent otherwise, but i find increased power consumption enought reason for looking elsewhere....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nallyvaico:
I was just told that you can't abandon this radio by mere flashing another radio !!!!!!!! Guys, can somebody pls confirm that?????

EDITED

False alarm - I jsut reflashed OK)))

What does ATW stand for in the 1.65.29.22 ATW radio name?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
1-if u r not CID unlocked my friend...u have to flash 1.65.24.36 first! and then u may flash to any radio of ur choice.

2- ATW is short for "All The Way".... a moderator of this site, an active member and the person who made this thread!!!

(i sound like an encyclopedia lol)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Pisca:
Any specific issue to flash Radio 1.65.24.36 first, before use any other radio ?

Instead of security unlock ?

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
no....no other issues...before you decide to change the radio...flash 1.65.24.36 1st and then choose any radio u desire....this is tested and works (i myself did it).

note: also remmember, dont flash another ROM that includes a radio before changing the 1.65.29.22 or else the flash WILL NOT CONTINUE

edit: sorry i just now understood ur question....no, no issues flashing 1.65.24.36 1st
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
For the record, i think that's only an issue with 1.65.28.25, not 1.65.29.22. It has something to do with the niki radio being larger than some of the other radios I think. I'm obviously not an expert in this area, but it was a casual observation that if you flash a radio that's smaller than 1.65.28.25 then it doesn't work, and if you flash one the same size that it does. Either way, as was said before just flash the 1.65.24.36 radio before you flash another one and you'll be fine. Or security unlock your device, as i've been recommending everyone do since i got stuck on the actual radio from hell, and you won't have to worry about it at all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hayaticik:
Loudest Radio

I was looking for the loudest radio..aside from the call quality gps lock etc. can you guys recommend which one is the loudest sound for music and ringer sound? thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
maybe it was me...maybe i was hallucinating but to me....1.59.42.15 polaris gave me good audio sound...but how will it be with ur network carrier and rom...guess u'll have to try and find out
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nallyvaico:
Radio flashing issue

Damn, I just bumped on this same issue... I was flashing 1.71 eMo radio, and it struck an error! The device then got stuck in the bootloader mode, and I had to download 1.65.24.36 radio, only to recover and be able to continue with another radio.

Now, would I have to reflash radio 1.65.24.36

ALWAYS

(!!!!) before going ahead with another radio or was it just this special case because I had gone through both 1.65.28.25 and 1.65.29.22, whichever of them being at fault?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Time to security unlock your phone. Then you won't ever run into this issue again!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nallyvaico:
I'm afraid I miss something... Is my device NOT already security unlocked?! I thought you were talking about SIM unlock)))) If not, pls drop me a link...

Also, Question 2: if I hadn't flashed this faulty radio (1.65.28.25?), I wouldn't have been forced to use the 1.65.24.36-flash-first workaround. Am I correct?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
http://www.4shared.com/file/46447471/7ae96b57/Jockyw2001_HardSPL_-_SuperCID.html

This has everything you need.

First flash the HardSPL that is included just as you would any other HardSPL. Then refer to the instructions that are included in SuperCID process.

Should work like a charm.

Here is original thread if you have any issues. You can also PM me and I will be able to assist you if you run into any problems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nallyvaico:
AllTheWay,

I am afraid I don't quite get it... My device has HardSPL3.56, why would I need still another CID/Hard/bla bla unlock? The thread didn't quite disclose that... What are other benefits?

Also, getting back to my previous message, how did I come by this "lock" - having flashed the faulty radio 1.65.29.22?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1848677&postcount=26

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1848677&postcount=27

Having your phone security unlocked also prevents you from being "Stuck" with a radio.

This will also SIM unlock your phone if you haven't already done so.

Believe me I know. I was one of those stuck with the radio from hell.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chg1282002:
hi ATW,my radio is 1.65.28.25,rom pc.ultimate v5,I try to flashing radio 1.65.21.18 but error,my spl 3.29.my question is if I flashing hard spl1.0,then supercid,do I need need change rom first before I flash hardspl+supercid.or just flash hardspl+supercid then flash back spl3.29.thank you for your help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kb9nvh:
OK so now i've done the supercid and I'm up to step three.

Everything was sucessful and I now have hardspl 1.1jockyW

Do I need to put back the 3.29 or 3.56 hard spl at this point?

Or do I need to stick with the jocky spl-1.1.

The instructions only say to put your radio back but not the replace the "at" enabled spl I just loaded.OK

UPDATE:::****

I put back spl 3.56 hard and tried to put back my radio (at&t default 1.65.21.10 that was in that OEM ROM), but couldnt' find 1.65.21.10 so I put in 1.65.21.18

I found that the emo radio ate my battery horribly when I got into a 3G area...

I'm now security unlocked with spl 3.56 and radio 1.65.21.18

ROM version3.57.502.2 WWE with all the stupid AT&T stuff.. I needed to get off the tricolor screen after a bad radio flash and thats why I"m on the AT&T ROM...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
1.) Flash JockySPL 1.1

2.) Security Unlock your device.

3.) Flash back SPL of choice.

4.) Flash whatever radio you want.

After flashing JockySPL 1.1 flash back to whatever SPL you like. Use the corresponding SPL that works with your ROM of choice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] chg1282002:
Hi ATW,thanks for reply my question.final i change my radio 1.65.28.25 to 1.65.21.18 ,what i has been do is i flash back hardspl 3.28 first,then i flash 1.65.24.36 ,then i flash 1.65.21.18 .i did not security unlock my phone,because my kaiser already unlocked before.

yesterday my kaiser on HARDSPL 3.29 ,it is not possible flash radio 1.65.21.18 ,i falsh back HARDSPL 3.28,now i m on 1.65.21.18 ,but now i see my network signal not very good,i may falsh back radio 1.65.28.25 .......

Thanks for the help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] scotchua:
No, not always, it's only when you're flashing off of 1.65.28.25, but of course as recommended by ATW, security unlocked it the way to do it. It's what i recommended in the thread about that radio as well.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] brynwall:
I'm using 1.71.09.01 on Ultimate V.6 and so far it has the best battery and signal out of the last 5.

I'm in Idaho
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] PJ6363:
L26 v3 ROM, Radio 1.65.20.29

Hello all,

Firstly, this is a great thread...Radios are what this device is all about: phone reception, roaming, GPS locks....should be made sticky and presered!!

Would love to know if there is a utility that we could use as a standard measure for the Radios, then benchmarking and comparisons would be easier.

FYI, My Radio is 1.65.20.29 and I am findng that Reception in North-East Scotland is excellent (5 bars) 5/5, however it takes a "while" to get a GPS fix (tomtom) 3/5. Rarely if ever get 3G from BT in central Aberdeen.....

Please keep this thread alive...and big thanks to the the initiators!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dani31:
hard reset after rom update?

But is a hard reset also recomanded after flashing a new radio?

10x
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mikulec:
no ..........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] joda77:
Been using GPS today, quite good reception. Some area's with a bit low perceptiob but no loss of signal.

Sadly the Radio 1.64.08.21 gives me lot's of battery usage, much more than with Dutty's original rom (don't know the radio version ) :mad:

So, I will change it soon to another one....