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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flying Kiwi:
A link to a possibly unexplored wiki part?

Although I can see you joined more than a year ago, the fact you have only made 9 posts doesn't tell me how much reading up you have done. I know you mentioned you had read up and searched (and asked for no flaming) but such an obvious question as the difference between a 'hardSPL' and HTC OEM 'SPL' which is well covered by the wiki set off alarm bells. You just must have missed that section so thanks for clearing that up.

Well there you go, IPL doesn't ring any bells with me so I must have missed that bit but certainly the answer to your original question which was (copied and pasted) 'What is the difference between HardSPL and SPL?' is thoroughly answered in the SPL Questions part of the wiki (click the link). If you understand the difference between hardSPL and OEM (HTC provided) SPLs then you'll know why some folks go with one type and others choose the other one.

Sometimes the search isn't useful and you get either nothing or a huge amount of irrelevant stuff but the whole ROM package I'm using is linked to through the wiki. In fairness I did cheat and got the official HTC 1.93 SPL from a mod (although I still had to learn to use htcrt.exe to get it into the correct format before flashing). Be aware that if you want to flash the slightly 'updated' radio I'm now using, you'll need to still have hardSPL (1.x) on the device at the time of radio flashing. It's only after the correct combination of ROM and Radio are correctly on the device that you can flash the OEM SPL back on again. Of course alot of people don't bother and just leave it with hardSPL - your choice - although it is a telltale sign for those in the know that some unofficial flashing has occurred:eek:;)

It was quite a way back in the thread that you wrote of the signal drops but even then I don't think you explained it as clearly as you just have so I hope you can understand why I wrote what I did. Now the situation is clear to me, I hope for you also.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Exitao:
The Rogers WM 6 ROM device info reads:

ROM version: 1.83.631.4 WWE

Radio 1.27.15.32

Protocol version: 22.51.88.13H

P1tater (sp?) has the Roger's ROM in his shared files.

For Rogers Name Display to work, it may be possible that rilphone.dll, ril.dll and certain registry entries are required.

I am using this ROM currently, and am curious if I updating the Radio effects the functionality of Name Display as the only problem I have with the ROM is that it seems to drain my batteries more than most; a problem I've only had when mucking about with Radions (and I'm actually using Fido, not Rogers, which may contribute).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
Could you give us some more information about your set up?

ROM: ?

HardSPL: ?

Radio: ?

I am assuming you are on AT&T and have an AT&T branded Tilt, if not so let us know.

Many of the radios are made for different regions of the world, and thus are not optimal for the US. Some do not have all the US 3G bands, thus only if you have a really strong 3G signal will it work. The more information, and accurate at that, you give us the more we can do for you.

Put your phone into bootloader mode, and tell us what the 3 lines say.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aoku.yasashiku:
I'm using HTC TyTN II, and I'm in Jakarta, Indonesia.

anybody know what is the best radio for Anryl WM6.5 - 21500 ROM ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
I believe he recommends one in his first couple posts...

I had great success with 1.71 eMo radio, but i am in the US. the camera and sound worked great, though, gps was fast, wifi was good to.

Radio controls camera, gps, sound, wifi, and of course reception... 1.71 eMo will do great, but you will have to test the reception as it might be different in Indonesia.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
Radio-dation

After testing almost every single WM 6.1 radio, I found myself going back to 1.71.09.01eMo time and time again. Great battery life, great camera pictures, best signal, WiFi worked, excellent sound quality, and so forth. For me, it was hands down the best overall radio, and surpassed most other radios in every area.

I live in Iowa, and am on the I Wireless network (aka T-Mobile). I have a good griend with AT&T and I let him borrow my phone for a couple days (he was interested in me flashing his Pro for him, but wanted to see how a cooked ROM felt first), and he reported that it had much better reception than the stock AT&T radio.

I have tested this radio with many different ROMs, including several WM 6.5 ROMs, and never had a single issue with anything the radio controls. 100% compatable! I actually had better pictures taken with Anryl's WM 6.5 ROM, while at the same time so many were saying that they couldn't get the camera to work with the exact same build.

I really haven't found any downsides, except it eats battery a little bit faster than some other radios when it comes to WiFi. But nothing major... with power use(my norm, and lots of internet usage, direct push email of 3 accounts, word processing, excel, and so forth) I get about a 12-16 hour day out of my battery on Athine OS ME, with what I would call average use(aka 1 exchange account always pushing, maybe an hour internet, a handful of phone calls, a larger handful of texts, and another larger handful of IMs) I get just shy of 2 days usage.

1350 battery.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aoku.yasashiku:
hmm now I'm using

ROM : Anryl WM6.5 21501 RC1

SPL : HardSPL 3.56 by JockyW

Radio : 1.70.19.09

I think it works great. so much improvement from my original HTC WM6.1 ROM and Radio (download it from HTC South East Asia)

now I want to upgrade to 1.71.09.01 eMo, many said this is the best radio for Kaiser... do yout think is worth to try?? Can I downgrade to 1.70.19.09 with HardSPL installed in my kaiser?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] himalayasplaya:
hey i just changed my radio and rom. I went from PDA corner ultimate xv1 to ultimate xv2 premium. I changed my radio from 1.70.19.09 to 1.71.09.01. I installed iGO 8 and it wont connect. I haver installed quickGPS updates but to no avail...thoughts/solutions/ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
Soft reset, run quick again, and test GoogleMaps. If Google Maps works, then it will narrow it down to an issue with the iGO or the Radio/ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] himalayasplaya:
hey pjcforpres,

so I softreset. I ran googlemaps, it was trying to acquire the satellites I guess, then it said "GPS Connection Error" No GPS receiver was found. Make sure you hav ea GPS receiver(built-in or Bluetooth) that is turned on and configured to work with Google Maps for Mobile. See below for instructions..."
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NetrunnerAT:
Next Point ... Radios are not only for a Spezial WM Version. You can Patch a WM 6.1 OS to use the Old 1.27 Radios. Its like a wrong Driver.

But ... dont ask me how ... i havent try! I have read some 1.27 Radio Threads and Modding to use 1.58 Radios.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
it's not that i'm "concerned" - in the literal sense of the word:)

as i mentioned in the original post, i was just going to add a bit of knowledge to the shallow pool of my brain. I HAVE ALREADY flashed an old WM5 Radio on a new WM6.1 (or vice versa) and found it to be a perfect match. I just wanted to hear more from you guys so that I would know what to do with FUTURE mix/match of different radios/roms.

I get your point about sweeping statements. you're perfectly right.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
AllTheWay, you are an asset to this community. Thanks for throwing light on the issue in details.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
LMAO. You got a

PART

of that correct. He is definitely an

ASS

et to this community.:D

Sorry bro, couldn't resist. All joking aside, thanks for all that you do for this community.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
LOL why you thinking about my ass LOL!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
LOL. Nice. Sorry to jack the thread.

Once agin thanks for everything you do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thefunkygibbon:
sorry to slight derail the thread, but the talk of purposely bricking using task 2a in mtty piqued my interest.

could someone let me know exactly what the outcome of doing that is, ie

will it power on, will there be any messages on the screen etc?

I need to send my phone back to tmob as it seems to be broken but dont want to do it til i know if they are going to help me or not so need to be able to describe what the phone is/isnt doing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GSLEON3:
Task 2a will completely format the SPL, Splash, ROM.

The can however still find out what radio version you had as that is linked to the OEMSBL which still persists. That info can be use to see if you possibly had an non-carrier or cooked rom, but everything else including the SPL, which boots the os after the radio BL initializes it, will be gone.

As to what the phone will do after a task 2a, well it will only turn on into the emergency OEMSBL mode. This means the screen is black, & only the green light will come on. Other than the green light, the phone will be as if it were turned off or without battery.

There are other very secure ways to brick a device as well...Wait a second, I think my TV dinner is done in the microwave, ohh wouldn't you know it, I only set it for 2 seconds, silly me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thefunkygibbon:
lol excellent. many thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pavetim:
Radio flashing

Sorry i'm new to this but learning quickly. I have L26 Diamond V5 on my att tilt with 3.29 spl now. i was going to experiment with diff radios. How exactly do I flash them and can I just go ahead and change radios without hanging anything else. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
Yes you can change just the radio. Flash it just like you do a rom. Or you can flash it via SD card.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ukkj:
For Information:

Sheffield UK, Vodafone

R 1.27.12.32 on WM6

20 seconds GPS fix on Tom tom

Super fast 3G connection in good signal..

When 3G/GSM signal performance is poor it does not perform to well, looking to improve this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
can we make this one a sticky, now that ATW is a mod. :)

Congrats.

on my part, i've found the ultimate radio for me - 1.65.20.29 which came with Leos V5.

whole day takes 20-30% - used with Wifi (not long) GPS, messaging, calls (about 20 mins) video and music. Mind you I don't use 3G.

still can't believe it - someone here wrote similar results and I thought it was complete balls, apparently it's not. I've tried a dozen radios and got usual results all the time. had about 20-40% at the end of the day left.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
All Stickies (including this) go in here normally - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=369282

Just topical ones Like Android, New SPLs, and recently the Radio from hell get made into Forum Stickies.

When they become less popular, they get consolodated ;)

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
Ok, Thanks! :) should have noticed it there myself...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] othillo:
O2 Radio Advise

Dave,

As a fellow 02 user can I ask your advice?

I'm going through the switch from a heavily modded Tytn to the 02 Stellar, now flashed with Duttys ROM and 1.64.08.21. In your opiniod ifs there a Radio that is better suited to 02?

Having carried out a number of speed checks I seem to have download speeds of 120kbps with HSDPA on or off, have you noticed any differences in data performance with different ROMS?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcespi2005:
Nice battery results, but for me is a must to have 3G active, cause here in Orange Spain, having only GPRS gives me a little problem, can't have data and voice transmissions simultaneous... that means i can't talk and receibe mails at the same time, or the real problem, if i'm receiving an email, my line gets busy if someone calls me...

I get similar results with official ROMs in GPRS mode, or with many ROMs... the good will be to get this results with 3G enabled ;)

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
I'll try to get my friend to flash that rom+radio - he uses 3G. Might be a bit of a problem... he's stuck with official and is very wary of flashing. unlike us here :))))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Not really. Although I do work and live in an area with poor reception.

At the moment I am liking 1.65.20.29. But I don't do speed tests. I just go for signal quality, batttery life and GPS Fix.

Also, I have never had HSDPA or 3G. I always have both enabled. :(

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] othillo:
I've flashed 1.65.20.29 as per Dave, but now when I use the thumb wheel to adjust the in-call volume the call hangs with the last received noise repeating the earpiece. I'll change radios but any thoughts on a cause?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pjcforpres:
Hmmm.... not really sure from there? Maybe try reflashing the radio? Do a fresh download of the radio, and a fresh flash... I believe I read in the SPL thread you are using activesync to flash? Activesync tends to have bad flashes more often than the SD card method. The Radio controls GPS function, so hopefully that will get you going!

Also, you don't have to hard reset after a radio flash, but if you can I would this time through, just in case it is something with the ROM not initializing correctly or the radio having reminents of the old one on there still and thus not working right.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] himalayasplaya:
i got GPS working finally. I rolled up to the 3.34 Hard SPL (Dave Shaw), reflashed the rom, reflashed the radio.

The only thing I have left to do is unlock my phone...any real advantages to that if I dont plan on leaving my network(AT&T) anytime soon??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Nope, not really :)

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] richabi:
eMO radio not flashing

Take back. Redownloaded it again and directly from ATW's 4shared and it flashed this time! whoohoo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bulbasha:
Mobile Operator:Elisa(Vodafone) Estonia

WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_

Radio:1.71.09.01

HardSPL:3.29.Hard2

Everytime when i receive and end the call my network drops for 10-15 seconds and starting work.

Can anybody offer better Radio?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] serge_harle_z:
Does someone recommend me a radio to use with Ultimate X v3?. I live in Puerto Rico if this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flying Kiwi:
Can try the custom ROM thread for best results

As that's a custom ROM, your best bet would be reading, searching and if necessary posting in the thread dedicated to that ROM. If it was me I'd try the standard Radio version used for the particular OS version you have but in standard Kaiser ROM flavour sold in local shops first and if that doesn't satisfy then look at trying others. BTW welcome to the forum and happy reading up on all the good info here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Darkness_Invade:
can someone point me to radios for mobile 6.5? i'm using a radio for 6.1 and cannot get 3G, Edge only. Thanks. Using att tilt in USA.

I finally found it with extensive searching, radio 1.12.25.19 located in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2822877&postcount=2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pyrorob:
wow, i realy hope you didnt flash a radio from a raphael on your kaiser :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ChumleyEX:
Aren't most of these radios from other phones?

Oh the thread he linked even says not to put it on a kaiser because it will brick it. OUCH
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Yes, but compatable other phones with the same chipset (i.e. Polaris and Nike). The bootloader should refuse to flash a Raph Radio, if it did actually get on there and stick I don't think it would boot.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mh7:
lol

does it mean i have to change radio

when i go to Dubai next time :)

i'm using 1.71.09.01

and purchased extra battery :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tilt4life2:
I am trying to flash the TPCExtremeV3.1 rom.

I live in CA and have an ATT Tilt.

What radio should i use? Currently, I have the default ATT rom running and the radio is 1.27.14.09.

This is my first flash attempt so please help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Darkness_Invade:
brick it? working fine here, just still have no 3G

still looking for a list of compatable radios for 6.5
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] s1m0n.lfs:
Best in Croatia

I have tried couple of radios and just to report the results in Croatia

1. Stock radio that came with Vario III from T-mobile (can't remember which one was but it was first radio in Vario III on WM 6.0) was a mess. Bad phone reception especially 3G, bad GPS reception, battery life horrible, camera horrible, WiFi OK, Bluetooth OK.

2. Stock radio which came in T-Mobile with WM 6.1 upgrade to be exact it was 1.65.16.25. A bit better than previous except GPS was still lousy and battery life horrible.

3. Kaiser radio 1.70.19.09 works great for GPS and for GPRS/EDGE. WiFi great, camera great, battery life great. 3G signal on TELE2 and T-Mobile fluctuates and constantly changes from 3G/HSDPA and GPRS/EDGE.

4. Kaiser radio 1.71.09.01 is currently on my Kaiser. GPS, WiFi, camera and battery life are the same as with 1.70.19.09 but phone isn't fluctuating any more between 3G/HSDPA and GPRS/EDGE and the operator signal is noticeably better and more stable than with 1.71.09.01 radio.

First and second radios tested on T-Mobile ROM (3.31.119.1, don't know which HardSPL if any?). Third and fourth radios tested on latest HTC ROM (3.34.721.1 with cmonnex HardSPL 3.29).

Edit: first radio on WM 6.0. Second, third and fourth on WM 6.1.

Just my 2cents :) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] test4meplease@gmail.com:
HELP PLEASE, im yelling with respect,

Im using htc tilt 2, i cannot get this radio thing to work properly. Sound and camera is not working so i figure the radio is the problem, but after 1 whole day at this, im giving up and asking for help.

I hold on the power (little red circle on right), camera ( bottom right), and the reset (hole next to usb). when i do that i get to the Security Unlocked on the screen. (i'm guessing this is the tri page) On the bottom i see in bold text Serial. On the Red part of the screen it stats the following:

KAIS1*0

SPL-3.29.Hard

CPLD-8

Also i copied the KAISIMG.nbh on my memory card. but it just stays there, only way to get out, i hold left and right soft keys, and reset button.

Thank you in advance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
The memory card must be FAT32 formatted (using your PC). And insert the memory card before putting your phone in bootloader mode. Or just flash it using USB if you can.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] test4meplease@gmail.com:
Thank you so much,

Now phone works, and does vibrate forever when i get a text. You are the man. Almost had to go get me an iphone, you know how embarrassing that is.

Thank you again,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wjhughes420384:
conference calling

When I had blackstone on my tilt with 1.71.09.01 radio I could conference call lots of people in,

I now have SJ's Rhodium on there with 1.71.09.01 and I have no conference calling capability.

where can I pick that up to add in??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] david2327:
Radio for south georgia

does anyone know a good radio for south ga. I live in valdosta about 15 min north of fla in a rural area. If anyone one knows of a radio with good reception and battery life any suggestions would be helpful.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fizzy15:
malaysia - celcom

hi, does any one here came from Malaysia.. has anyone test which version works better for Malaysian...:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TreesonLee:
1.70.19.09

1.71.09.01

both above worked fine in China(main land). 1.70.19.09 seemed a little better than 1.71.09.01.

Others not tried
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] anagarika:
I've been testing both 1.70 and 1.71, keep coming back to 1.70 ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TruGeek:
AT&T Radio Reception Problems

Hey all. trying to get some help getting my AT&T Tilt radio working. It is working somewhat, but I am missing calls and getting several dropped calls. I flashed this with the latest AT&T 6.1 flash off of the HTC site a few months back. I was working with someone last week that also has AT&T except he has Cingular Orange. I needed to make a call. I was getting 1 bar and could not make the call. He pulls out his 3 year old razor and it has 5 bars on it, so I make my call on his phone.

I call AT&T support the next day, and what it comes down to, they told me since I have an old AT&T Wireless SIM card I will never get good reception on this phone. Later that day I borrowed a newer AT&T 3G SIM card and got the same crappy reception.

That's when I found the radio link here. The radio that came with the latest HTC Tilt flash was 1.65.21.18. I've flashed several others and was still getting crap phone reception. I wanted to flash the original again, but I keep getting flash failure errors. I have finally successfully flashed 1.65.20.29 and that's what I am using now. The only way I can improve reception one maybe two bars is to run the "bandswitch" program. But when I run this program, I lose my HSDPA and can usually only get an EDGE for data. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Also, a heads up, AT&T started modifying my original contract. Now instead of paying $9.99 for my extra lines, they bumped it up to $19.99 using the excuse that they switched their billing to Telegent. They refuse to take it back to the contracted $9.99. You've got to love SBC Global!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bellor:
Trugeek,

Why not simply flash to 1.70.19.09 and get the best radio for your Kaiser immediately? I really don't understand why you don't want to update to the latest and best.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] TruGeek:
bellor,

OK I flashed 1.70.19.09. I will try this for a few days. So far I am getting just 2 bars, so this still seems poor. I have uninstalled "bandswitch" and am now getting HSDPA. Seems with the "bandswitch" it improves the phone reception but lowers the data speed to EDGE.

I wonder if there isn't a hardware issue with my phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DavidNL:
Radio for Georgia

I didn't see the following radio on this thread, but for me with ATT in Indiana It seems to work best:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=490303

This is radio 1.59.46.12
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bellor:
@trugeek,

if you get poor reception with EDGE then it means that you are too far from any base station and that is your reception quality. With HSDPA it is normal to get poorer signal quality.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lhh305:
Thank for this RADIO 1.27.12.11 :D