yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kb9nvh:
I've been trying this radio out this afternoon (1.65.21.19)....gps seems good and non-3g reception is top notch.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] phantomy2g:
So I flashed the Aug 24th att rom and the radio shows as 1.65.21.18... The radio is pretty solid good 3g reception and very fast data connection and gps lock but phone is running very hot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
so try the 1.65.21.14 ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] phantomy2g:
will do right now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] blue_94_trooper:
How do we get this thread stickied?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jhego:
Has anybody tried 1.71.09.01? How's the battery life?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] starstreak:
I'm using it. So far no issues that I see. I'm on T-mobile in Hawaii. Hard to judge battery life.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Valtamr:
Hey AllTheWay,

Great thread - I've downloaded several radios from it. Just dropping you a quick note to let you know that the link to the new 1.65.21.18 radio actually goes to the 1.65.17.56 download (the two mirrors work...just if you click on the radio version). Just didn't want anybody to download the wrong one by mistake. Thanks for all the hard work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Thanks for the heads up problem fixed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Giginicchio:
Yesterday I've flashed the 1.65.21.14 radio on my kaiser, it has very good 3g reception and very fast data connection, but it drains my battery too much!!!

The 1.65.21.18 radio for me has the same 3g reception and fast data connection, but the audio during a call isn't the same, battery life is good.

I've also tried the 1.71.09.01 radio and for me it has the same problem of 1.65.21.14: very bad battery life!!!

The only one that gives me good battery life is 1.65.24.36
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Try radio 1.65.17.56. See how that works for you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] killerbeans:
Sorry, I got mixed up which thread I was in!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ccheung:
I'm using Romeos ROM, it suggues to use SPL 3.29. Do I need to change to SPL 3.56 when I use radio 1.65.21.14 or 18?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Valtamr:
Nope, sure don't. As you see from my signature, I'm using ROMeOS and 1.65.21.18 (with 3.29), and it's working just fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zim2dive:
Using 1.65.20.29 and L26 v 11.0, I am unable to switch to GSM mode on the band page.. ie. I can change the pull-down to GSM (from Auto), but it will not take effect. Anyone else see this?

EDIT: I flashed 1.65.24.36 and had no trouble switching to GSM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] The Reaper:
1.65.16.25 works great for me, (in India), good connectivity and about 2 days battery with moderate usage...no GPS issues either...

Cool thread ATW...Great place to look into when i start flashing :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] eastmushu:
Great on M1 network...

1.71.09.01 EMO on RUU_Kaiser_HTCASIA_WWE_3.29.707.0, HardSPL 3.29.

Great battery life on M1 network (Singapore), comparable if not better than stock WM6.1 ROM. GPS satellite fix by far way better. No issues so far.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flying Kiwi:
We know what seems to be the poll winner but more info needed

I see many people have posted good things about this radio especially the part that most interests me - GPS performance. Does anyone know what the 1.71 part really signifies? The reason I ask is that this was apparently developed for a WM 6.0 device yet it also works with WM 6.1 ROMs. The number is also miles ahead of other Radio codes that were released after it so I'm scratching my head over this. Could it be that this version was developed by another organisation than those comming up with the 'current' 1.65 series radios? Yes I'm aware it was originally intended for use in the eMonster S11HT but does that mean eMobile programmed it or perhaps they paid Qualcomm (rather than relying on HTC) to come up with the Radio code? Is it fundamentally a different Radio or very similar with just a few tweaks here and there? Perhaps someone has performed a file to file comparison? Is anyone able to throw more light on whats different inside this radio or where it really came from please.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jhego:
Tried 1.71.09.01 EMO KAISER, and somehow the charge is stuck at 81%. Anyone know why?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbudden:
Using 1.71.09.01 EMO on AT&T Official 6.1 Clean Rom by NATF and took off charger at 10am, its now 1am my time, and had just little less than 50% left. Amazing Radio!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I wondered this same point for a while.

We know that Polaris, NIKI, and SEDNA WM6.0 Radios work on the earlier version of WM6.1 Kaiser ROMs. i.e. 5.2.19199

I know some chefs like Laurentius26 and duttythroy have done newer WM6.1 ROM builds (5.2.19213) and were able to utilize the 1.64.xx.xx and 1.58.xx.xx radios, excluding the 1.58.25.17 radio.

I personally like the older radios better but it's different for everybody.

It would be nice for knowledgeable, intelligent person to explain exactly what files in the ROM are associated with the radio.

Would add another dimension to ROM cooking.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ArmyDoc:
Radio Flash Question...

Newbie Question from Experienced PDA Geek--So PLEASE Be Kind! :)

I flashed from the initial launch stock ATT Tilt 6.0 ROM to the "leaked" official ATT 6.1 ROM and radio combo (3.14.502.1/1.65.14.06) in April. I have liked some of the 6.1 advantages (mainly the threaded SMS), but frankly think my reception has been worse--lots of dropped calls (live in Central TX about an hr north of Austin, TX). I was tempted to load the new "official" ATT 6.1 ROM/Radio combos or any one of the awesome custom ROMS. The problem is that I don't want to reinstall all of my medical apps (I have a TON) which would be a necessary eval of doing a hard reset and reloading a new ROM radio.

OK...here's the newbie question: can I just flash the radio only WITHOUT having to hard reset the device? Would say the new 1.65.21.14 flash over my current 1.65.14.06 w/o requiring a hard reset? Would it even work c this ROM (from reading the Radio Thread it looks like it would, just not sure if it would be better). Then again if the rumors of the Touch Pro coming to ATT on Sept 20th are true, I probably can just wait. thanks in advance for all of your help!

D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Yes you can flash whatever radio you want without hard resetting.

Where did you hear / see this rumor at?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ArmyDoc:
AWESOME! Thanks for the help AllTheWay! I will give the other radio a go latter today.

As for the rumored release date for the Touch Pro/Fuze on ATT, I saw that comment in some of the threads under the Rafael icon. Some mentioned the 29th as well. Obviously, unsure of the quality of their sources. Definitely, not trying to spread rumors or get anyone's hopes up; just don't want to reload every program on my phone to flash a new ROM on my Tilt to just turn around 3 wks latter and pick up the Touch Pro and have to do it again.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=422327

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=421626

thanks again,

d
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] davesr1980:
are thier any clear instruction on step by step radio install not sure what to do i have done the hard spl a new rom but now i have no sound from anywhere i would like to change radio with out bricking but not sure where to put the radio to get started

do i copy and paste the radio somewhere on the phone or what very confused at this point and i have tried searching everywhere for step by step for this
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] piztol44pete:
flashing a new radio is pretty easy and i dont think there is much danger in doing so. i have flashed every radio that i have found until i found one that woked the best. all you do is DL the radio u want; extract the file on your pc. plug in your Kaiser to your pc and run the the extracted file from your pc not the device and follow the instructions. and it takes about 45 seconds. all the radios u need are in the

1st page. and it will not hard reset your phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gmitch:
Kaiser 1.65.14.06

I notice that the Kaiser Radio 1.65.14.06 has not gotten a lot of votes. But from my place just outside Seoul, Korea, this one has given me the fastest time to lock for GPS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
radios and location

thats because everyone is commenting on radios according to their location and service carrier...each radio's performance may differ from location to location...

for example..the EMO radio 1.71? the one with the most votes..drains the hell out of my battery and gps isnt that great...but im gussing thats a radio/location/carrier issue...:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
You can also change radios on the fly using your device. I keep all of the radios on my SD card and change when I deem it necessary.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mb:
1.65.16.25 Great On Vodafone UK

I believe this radio originally came from an O2 UK ROM, which probably explains why it works well for me being on Vodafone UK.

Great call quality, excellent battery life and quick GPS fix.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
It did, it came from from WM6.1 Xda Stellar upgrade. I've never tried it, I'll give it a go this weekend.

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] piztol44pete:
see this is something new to me, i did not know that this method could be used. can you give me a quick tutorial this would really save me some time..thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
Here is what I do.

I have a folder on my SD card that has all of my radios. When I decide to change one, I copy it to the root of my SD card and rename it to KAISIMG.nbh

"EXACTLY"

. Then, enter bootloader by pressing the camera button and while continuing to press the camera button, insert the stylus in the reset hole and hold it there until I enter Bootloader. At that time, a white screen will appear telling you that it has found a radio nbh update. At this time, just follow the on screen prompts. When it says it is complete, soft reset the device. At this time you have just completed updating the radio without a pc.

You can use this same method to update a rom but please for the love of GOD, make sure that you have at minimum 50% battery before attemting this method.

For further clarification:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserSDFlash
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
what is new in this treath when it has a new date? :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcespi2005:
New Radio

1.70.18.02

- Rapidshare

Cheers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
wow...and what are recommendation? flash it or not flash it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jcespi2005:
Like AllTheWay says in the first post...

[SIZE=+2]I highly suggest and I can't stress this enough, that you try out each radio and see which one(s) work best for you[/SIZE]

;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
It's in the 1st post on how to do this.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] boog316:
Oh boy...

Thanks. The last 1.7* new radio did wonders for me. Will report...:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rob.ocelot:
Just an additional to what P1Tater said:

Most (if not all) of the tutorials on how to flash via SD card recommend you use a freshly formatted card with the ROM/Radio/Splash as the only file on there. This isn't really necessary, but there is a very small danger of a corrupted flash if the file structure of the card is heavily fragmented (happens when the card is nearly full or has not been defragged in a long time). What is more likely to happen is the flash process slows down or stops briefly while the next fragment of the ROM/Radio/Splash is located.

I've seen this happen at the end of a radio flash where the process just seemed to hang. Be patient and resist the temptation to soft reset as you will likely end up corrupting the area of flash ROM you were writing to. This usually isn't a fatal brick, but why tempt fate if you don't have to?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] srsaleenstang:
Mirror 1.70.18.02

Just a mirror for 1.70.18.02

http://www.4shared.com/file/61902378/ff38b9a9/KAIS_Radio_Only_1701802.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] californiarailroader:
Delete this post.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmarchi:
anyone try out the new radio.. im trying it on right now.. will psot results on my perspective
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] davesr1980:
thanks sounds a lot better then the sd version
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
i try that new 1,7 radio and my wi-fi is not working corectly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Thanks for the mirror.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] californiarailroader:
Alltheway, what radio/s would you recommend I try out with the new AT&T ROM? Like I said, the current one is great RF and GPS wise, it just seems to be hard on the battery, at least here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Try them all out and see which one works best for you.

For me....

1.65.17.56 and 1.70.18.02 work good for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] californiarailroader:
I'll try those out, thanks mi amigo! By the way, thanks again for this thread, you have done a lot of hard work on it (and many other things on here), it's very much appreciated :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] futbolkeeper:
I've had some really good success with the new 1.70.18.02 radio here in SLC. I've included it with my ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] californiarailroader:
I'll try that one out too, thanks futbolkeeper! That looks like a really nice ROM, I may have to load that bad boy up and give it a spin.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
1.70.18.02

@ ATW......how did u find 1.70.18.02 in regards to battery life?????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] phantomy2g:
Best battery life ive ever seen in a radio... well since i started flashing roms internet and data not as fast but consistent.. no echo during calls and pretty loud... overall one of the best radios ive used... 1.71 would be the best but its a vampire with all its draining... and 1.65.24.36 well u see the sig
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bkh_0538:
1.70.18.02

I've tried for nthis radio, it's amazing.

Battery life is OK, from today 8am till now 3.30pm just only drop from 100% to 78% with several calling and more than 10 times sms and push mail, and about 15 minutes playing mp3.

This radio is also good for the signal but not as good as 1.65.24.35 (just a little bit differences).

For the GPS only need about 30sec to lock my place....

Any experiences from others?

------------------------------------------

HTC Tytn II

ROM: Garmin DK 3 Full CT

Spl: 3.28

Radio: 1.70.18.02
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
and what do you think about wifi?because it works just 5 minutes for me and the it needed reconnect.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dvn2008:
I am using 1.70.18.02 and HardSPL 3.56. WiFi works properly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DaveShaw:
Just used 1.65.16.25 with ROMeOS (latest) this weekend and my phone lost 50% battery power in 6hrs. Died whilst I was in town, after I told my GF I'd ring her and meet her :D Oh well.

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
the sweet combination!

well now what lol...

no matter how many ppl comment on a radio's performance...it will only apply to their part of the world and lets say if someone from another country tried it...it might have the complete opposite results...

everybody here is looking for the sweet combination of those 3 main factors...

1-battery life

2- data connection and signal

3- GPS

so how bout we agree on something?....lets say that battery life and GPS are constant and not effected by service carriers...that leaves only signal and data connections that give different results from the same radio if used in 2 different locations...

i know the motto here is: try each radio untill you find the right one for you

but seriously, u might find one and think this seems to be the one...but out there might be another radio thats even better...:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] phantomy2g:
@mazin

exactly thats why u just keep trying even if u are satisfied with a particular radio never hurts to try another for a day till u finally settle... and not just location has an effect on radio performance Ive come to find that the rom build plays a good part and wether or not the radio is cooked in
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bkh_0538:
I've tried using wifi for about 15 minutes, and it worked properly. I did'nt see any issue on wifi..... How about others comment?

Anyone has compare 1.70.18.02 to 1.58.25.17? Please share to me.....

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sampcyn718:
for me the 1.70.18.20 radio has the best battery life so far...media conection is also fast and consistent, the only issue for me is that i have errative behavior with gps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] powergator:
1.70.18.02 Feedback with 9/5 Hyperdragon III Rom and 3.56 SPL

I haven't had many problems with Radios so I usu don't switch aronud alot. But, I changed over and had multiple losses of bluetooth in the middle of calls and dropped calls as well.

Regarding signal strength, I could see the connection suddenly dropping out with no strength, then within a couple of seconds, it would be back.

I noticed the battery life was getting used up quickly as well.

Could be the 3.56, but I had few problems with an older radio.

Just 1 experience. I anyone feels my phone may not be setup properly (power settings, etc, please let me know.

I'm going to try one that ATW says is good. He has ATT and is in the states like me.

Thanks,

Powergator

Update: 1.65.24.36 was uploaded and so far has worked great with the bluetooth and not dropping calls.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
just to emphasize that part...ur saying that "cooked in" radios perform better than separately flashed radios?...right?

you see i've experimented with alot of radios...found a couple i like...

but recently flashed a rom "Garman DK 3 final" with a cooked in 1.65.17.56...recommended by the chef...

its batt life is amazing for a 1.65 radio i must say...gps is good...signal ok and 3G internet (which i use alot) is just slightly slower than what im used to...

is it worth it now to experiment again...coz if i do..ill lose that cooked in performance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mdelleman:
Anyone on Rogers in Canada? I have been testing radios trying to find the right one for me and was wondering if anyone was doing the same. Right now I am testing 1.70.18.20 and it is better than 1.65.21.18. I think I may try 1.65.21.14 next.

Any suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] alkapone02:
I agree. Battery life is amazing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] adoute:
I haven't been using 1.70.18.02 for very long yet, however, early tests show better signal strength in areas that 1.71.09.01 had low / dropped signal. 3G, H speeds seem to be the same or faster.

GPS lock (cold and warm) is definitely faster (1 min 15 sec cold, 15 seconds warm). GPS accuracy also seems to be better (more testing needed).

Initial battery life seems to be the same as 1.71.09.01 (more testing needed).

Camera performance seems to be slower than with 1.71.09.01.

I'll add more comments after testing longer. So far, unless the battery life proves to be an issue, I think this is the radio I'll stick with (until something else comes along to test). Signal strength & GPS are the most critical factors to me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rob.ocelot:
Battery life can be affected by the carrier. If your coverage is weak or you keep autoswitching from 3G to Edge you will eat up more battery power than if the phone stayed at 3G. If you phone keeps losing signal and trying to reconnect it will consume a lot of power.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
that is nice information man...no wonder sometimes i loose batt so fast and sometimes its ok...

im already trying the new 1.70 radio..

so far my opinion is:

great gps fix

batt life good

data connections "slower than 1.58 and 1.65.24.36
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drtolson:
I'm on Rogers in Canada, and have been very happy with 1.65.17.56 -- mainly because of awesome increase in GPS sensitivity and stability. It does seem to chew up battery power tho, if you leave WI-FI or GPS on for any length of time. I tried 1.71.09.01, but the back of unit starting running warm when the GPS was on, so I decided that wasn't a good thing (for me).

I might give 1.70.18.20 a try and see how it works. I use the GPS a LOT tho, so it's important to me that this remain super hot!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ahmarchi:
as i posted a couple days ago i would leave feedback on this new 1.70 radio. here it is..

it is ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT... battery life for me is OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!! gps locks from cold boot in literally 10 seconds, CONSISTENTLY. voice and reception is brilliant... best radio i have used by a long shot!!! definitely not going away from this one until i get my htc touch pro, or ATT Fuze!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
BTW man....if you flash the 1.71.18.20 radio one more time after flashing the 1st time...the heating of the battery disappears...

trust me...i read it here and i tried it...it worked :)