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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tectrader:
TyTN 11 / Kaiser GPS lock fixed & BRILLIANT

Hi there, I have recently bought a Tytn 11, very pleased with it about the same size as my old Treo 650.

BUT...

The GPS and WiFi did not work the best on my UK spec Tytn 11 running WM6.1 . The GPS lock always took 10 yes TEN minutes and never more than one signal bar with WiFi

I read with interest about the various radio roms and decided to try a new one. On my second install the 1.70.18.02 T-Mobile Dutch version runs stunningly well! Hey Presto now GPS locks iro 10-20 seconds it is also super sensitive. I know because I have been using a wired top of the range Sirf 111 antenna with my old Treo 650. Also my WiFi at last look showed two signal bars so it must have been improved this also. My old radio was 1.58.25.17 that had very poor GPS performance.

I use my GPS nearly every day in London including central canyon scenarios and confirm the radio 1.70.18.02 is an amazing upgrade. I am so pleased YIPEE

Here is the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=3061778#post3061778
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Moe5508:
Congratulations for finally finding a radio that fixes your GPS lock. How does this radio perform on battery life and overall reception/voice quality though? For some people, the biggest peve is battery life, followed by quality of voice calls, followed by GPS lock...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pinaklonkar:
I am a new user (not a newbie with gadgets) and I just managed to install this ROM (HDIII) on my AT&T Tilt which was running stock WM6.1 ROM.

I am looking at the first screens after the installation and I can't tell you how happy I am :). The instructions were just perfect.

However after following the first three steps (installing HardSPL and CID and SIM unlocker, the radio went to 1.70.19.09. But after installing the new HDIII ROM, it went back to 1.65.xx.xx.

My question is - is it now safe (or a good idea) to go ahead and install 1.70.19.09 radio version on this phone running HDIII (3rd December 2008 release)? Or should I just leave the radio as it is?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Cal-El:
Good question! That radio either came with the ROM you are using or is the patched radio from the unlock! You can flash another radio if you want, but first read what is listed by the chef of HD3 to work with that ROM. If it came with the ROM, stick with it for awile and see how it works for you! Also check what Hard Spl is recomended by the chef as well. 3.29 or 3.56 or usualy what you are going to need! Hope that helps!:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pinaklonkar:
Thanks for your suggestion.

Also, I noticed that before flashing a cooked ROM, my phone signal reception never generated those noises from my multimedia loudspeakers kept nearby (my previous AT&T Nokia 3210 phone used to generate those sounds).

Now that I have installed the cooked ROM (and possibly a different radio from the AT&T stock), the noise has started again and it is a bit louder than Nokia 3120.

Does it mean a Radio signal Tx/Rx boost? I won't be surprised to see my battery drain quicker now if that's the case.

Anyone with similar experiences?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Cal-El:
Havent had any issue with that, but that could also be related to your radio! See what the chef recomends the try a few out to see what works for you! Some work better with HTC based ROMs and some better with AT&T ROMs! The network and area will affect radio performance as well!

Just make sure you are CID unlocked and Hard Spl'ed if you are going to be flashing alot, keeps down the danger of bricking your phone!:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flying Kiwi:
GPS performance with cold lock?

Many more posts like this and I'll have to consider ditching my old WM 6.0 ROM (which is generally excellent and certainly very good for GPS) and upgrading to the latest WM 6.1 WWE ROM with this radio! Like you, I was very dissapointed that initial WM 6.1 upgrades for the TyTN II (and even current HTC UK offerings) seemed to break GPS, but it seems things may finally be improving using unofficial options. I wonder when HTC will catch up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monakh:
Thanks a lot! I will try the Kaiser one first. I am (mostly) on mobily with push email enabled and my battery life SUCKS. Never more than five hours from 100-0! I have two batteries that I rotate. It makes me a sad panda :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ynottry13:
I live in florida anyone know a good radio thats got decent bat life and good internet speed, my internet is slow I can rarely get 20kb per second not worried much about gps. Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kgoforth:
I had a similar problem with the emo radio, I think the problem I had was it wanted to stay connected to the 3g/3.5g signals instead of switching to edge, I noticed the problem the most at my house, on the edge of 3g coverage and the edge network.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Jam STYLZ:
wich radio for my htc hermes with schap's 4.91 on wm6??

hi all,

can somebody tells me wich radio should i install for my htc tytn hermes with schap's 4.31 installed on wm6?

and all the bootloader too.

thanks alot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kb9nvh:
does hermes=kaiser?:confused:

I guess a radio is a radio....

What radios have you tried so far?

Are you in a 3G area?

I think that the emo radio has been a good one for many people.

You do understand that you have to try all the radios yourself to decide which one is best for you and your situation..right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Flying Kiwi:
This thread is for Kaiser radios, you'd be best to review the Hermes forums (and the Hermes wiki) as the Kaiser/TyTN II uses different hardware so the Radios won't be compatible. Make sure you've fully read the wiki and understand what you're doing before taking any action as you don't want to damage your phone or render it inoperable. Good luck over there!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] memon01:
crackling sound in the radio

ive been having a strange problem in my phone in that my voice sounds crackled to the listener (the sound at my end is fine). im using hard spl 3.29 and ive been consistently trying radios but its the same every time (sometimes worse). im trying to understand if this is a physical problem or is this a radio issue only? im currently in the process of downloading ALL the radios so i can test this problem but if anybody can guide me then it would be simpler. im using a tilt with gdk9 rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
where are u located?

that info will help the members help u faster :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] memon01:
:) im in karachi, pakistan
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
I wonder exactly about same problem: what is best radio for czech republic? and how do some tests if I decided for best radio...I am changing radios quite often...but probably barely see difference...thank you in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kb9nvh:
Most radios will work and pretty well. What to look for are bluetooth performance (crackly sound), gps lock time, battery usage, camera performance and all these under both 3G and Edge.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Mayhem963:
thank you for info! I am currently using 1.65.24.36 do you have idea for better one? so far it last about day...is it long or short time for kaiser? are some average tables done? thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kb9nvh:
the emo radio (is it 1.70.19.09??) seems to fit a lot of folks (not me because it seems to really kill the battery in a 3G area when talking).

the Kaiser is a battery HOG no matter what radio you use if you use it for anything other than a phone. Mine stays plugged in most of the time when doing anything with data. This is just a guess but using the thing only as a phone you can expect maybe three days of use talking maybe 2 to 3 hours. If you surf the web then forget about days, we are talking a few hours then.

battery life is the definite Achilles heal on this baby.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] :
Recomendations

Does anyone have any recommendations for a radio for me I live in the Indianapolis IN area and I just want to make sure that I am using the best radio possible for my area see info in my signature for what rom/radio I am using

I am on WM 6.1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
that is so damn true...

well put my friend...

i guess its a price we pay for having a pocket pc:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kb9nvh:
I went from the emo radio to the polaris 1.59.44.02. Its pretty good 3G or not but its bluetooth is crackly. emo was the best, maybe for everything but battery life everywhere I've gone...its possible that an errant data connection was sapping my battery while I talked in the 3G area and that I should give it another try.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ASCIIker:
i'm in lahore, pakistan and i'm currently using mobilink with the setup described in my signature

i have never experienced complaints from the people i call about my voice quality and i have used the following combinations since may 2008:

1. HTC Windows Mobile 6.0 (Stock SPL+Stock Radio 1.27.12.32)

2. HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 (jockyw HardSPL 3.28+Stock Radio 1.65.17.56)

3. Sakajati HyperDragon III ROMs (I've used about SIX or so HyperDragon ROMs...they are all based on Windows Mobile 6.1 and nearly all of them come with the radio ROM 1.65.24.36 as mentioned in my signature and i've been using cmonex HardSPL 3.29 since i started using HyperDragon ROMs)

somewhere in the middle of the above mentioned history, i also tried the emo radio and found it to have somewhat better gps locks and somewhat worse battery life but once again, sound quality received and transmitted has remained acceptable throughout my usage history of all the above mentioned combinations.

you might also want to try disabling microphone gain control if it is on or turn it on if it is off. maybe that might make a difference.

or perhaps your microphone is damaged...?

hope that helps...good luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thedrizzle:
ATW-

Just a small suggestion...since there are now so many radios to choose from, is there any way you could add when they were posted? I know that usually the radio version number is an indicator of how new it is, but i think it would be very handy to be able to keep track of the newest radios as they're posted. Again, just a suggestion...thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wjhughes420384:
radio 1.71.09.01

I am north east of Baltimore, travel up and down east coast. this radio, (1.71.09.01) works in every hole of any other radio I have tried
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] memon01:
Interesting thing happened. I moved my phone back to stock SPL and ROM since i was travelling to the US and would have given it to AT&T for warranty/repair. now that im back to the AT&T rom from their website and original spl the radio works fine. This is great except for the fact that i HATE the AT&T rom. time to move back?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mazin13:
u dont have to be TRAPPED in any stock rom...move freely my brother...move freely!

enjoy the joy of flashing cooked roms
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cristi_bv:
i'm currently using the 1.70.18.02 and on AthineOS ME v2.1 i get good signal and everything, i get some problems with the rom, after i ran the backup utility to restore my contacts, the manilla plugin or touchflo stopped working :confused: so ... i think i'm gonna search for some other rom, with better stability.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] borov5:
Thank you! :)

Latest is the greatest!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] memon01:
mazin the problem is i just moved back to installing gdk9 and the sound issue came back. i installed hard-spl 3.56 since i saw the AT&T rom install 3.56 spl on my system when i went back to stock rom and having removed spl etc. at that point in time my sound worked fine. now that ive installed hard spl again and even having moved back to stock AT&T rom my sound is giving me issues.

Can hard-spl really cause these issues?!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Cal-El:
It can! I am using the same ROM and I am Hard Spl 3.29 and have had no issues at all! You should just try it out, cant hurt and you can always go back if that is not the issue!;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
A task 2a via mtty will completely brick your device. The only way to revive it is using FrakenKaiser by Jocky. This is handy for returning it for warranty because it won't even matter if you reverted to the original ROM / SPL because it will be dead.

Yes you can security re-lock your phone using AT. I can help you out more with that if need be.

When I received my new device it wasn't a refurbished phone but a brand new one so I wouldn't worry about getting a hand me down so to speak.

If you tell them this, I can almost guarantee they will ship you out a new phone. ;) Just wouldn't mention the motorcycle accident.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Thanks, I may take you up on where to find the info to security re-lock. Even if I don't return, would be good to know.

I'll let you know what happens after a couple more days of testing.

thx :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hayaticik:
P1tater and AllTheWay

hi, P1tater and ATW...

you guys are great first off all...what my question is I am using 1.65.16.25 that you guys provided..is the radio extracted from the leaked version? is there anyway to extract from the htc wwe official version? it maybe different, or tweaked my HTC?

thanks guys

Hayati
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I doubt there is any difference but I will take a look at it later tonight when I get home to see if there are any differences. Unless P1Tater beats me to it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
The radio should be the same. The difference between leaked and official is usually 99.9999% of the time software related.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hayaticik:
you guys are an awesome team..it would be great to have the official one guys..I will check this thread often today...take care
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] robertlewisca:
I tried 1.65.20.29 with Dutty's Hybrid V2 ROM, and I could make a call, but when I disconnected the call, I would hear a loud noise coming from the earpiece that did not go away unless I soft reset. Tried it a few times just to make sure I wasn't crazy.

Flashed 1.65.16.25, and there were no problems. Reception good, GPS lock fast (from indoors!). Haven't had it long enough to test battery. I'm in Orange County, CA on AT&T.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Personally for me and a lot of other AT&T users the 1.65.xx.xx are horrible compared to the 1.64.xx.xx and 1.58.xx.xx radios in regards to battery life, but each person should try out which radio works best for them.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aruppenthal:
I gotta agree with ATW on the 1.65 radios. I really miss the older 6.1's. The 1.65s are really bad on att. The battery drains fast and I also get a funky echo with all of them.

I wish there was an easy way for the 1.64 and 1.58 radios to work with all the newer roms. Dutty and a few other chefs have done it but I guess its not super easy.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hayaticik:
I am in Hollywood, CA and tried all the radios..old radios, niki and polaris radio was good for me..out of the 1.65 radios..best one where I live is 16.25 version..it is quick gps. and no drop calls...also it is always on 3g at my house where it was roaming between E and 3G when I was using other radios.

by the way, ATW did you have a chance to see if you can get us the HTC WWE 1.65.16.25 radio..as the one I got from you is from the leaked version:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
Actually P1Tater checked this out for me and found that they are exactly identical.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
I am wondering what effects the SPL has on the radio. Another user reported in Laurentius26 Diamond V5 ROM that his GPS was significantly better after flashing 3.28HardSPL by Jockyw2001.

So can the SPL have a truly drastic effect on radios?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hayaticik:
you know it is funny i noticed that too..today I flashed leo's V5 and Jockys 28 hard spl..as you know igo2008 in V5 doesn't work HTC home enabled..so I have to reset the phone and IGo has to cold start the gps..it used to take a lot of time before..at least a couple of mins..now tonight after reset I turned on Igo 8 and within like 30 seconds after a softreset GPS locked in..took only 30 seconds..wow..and with no reset, it takes like a 5 to 10 seconds at max..I am using 1.65.16.25

what i noticed is that I think HTC found a way to make one radio for any reageon in the world..it seems like the 16.25 radio..

ohh..thanks to you and P1tater for figuring out my radio question.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redbandana:
To be honest with you ATW, im using a radio I used to hate because it the reception was unstable. Installed 3.28 went back to 20.29 now the reception appears stable. However, it is too soon to give any clear feedback as it has only been a few hours since flashing.

Before I flashed 20.29 I turned on airplane mode and used spb times stop watch for two hours to record battery drainage with Niki 16.27. I am currently running the same test with 20.29. I have a feeling the 1.65 radio's are draining the battery quicker not due to reception strength but due to compatibility with the Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NetrunnerAT:
Yes it have!

The SPL Init the GPS. THe Radio use the GPS and Build a Layer betwen GPS Hardware and a Virtual COM Device. WinCE use this Virtual COM Device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
WM5 Radio on WM6.1 ROM

AllTheWay,

Sir, by all means you seem to be the god of radios. So I throw this question at the god of radio hoping that I learn something new. (I already apologize if the case is related to Hermes and not Kaiser).

You as well as other developers have warned time and time again that XXX radio is only for WM5 roms or XXX radio is only for WM6 ...etc.

Generally speaking, I was not happy with the reception of my SPVM3100. I tried many ROMs and Radios on it. Finally, I fell in love with Binky11's roms (they're so fast, beautiful and stable that they make my SPVM3100 a much better device than my Kaiser!).

Fortunately, Binky's ROMs do not come with any Radio. So I tried different Hermes WM6.1 Radios with no satisfaction. Finally, I decided to flash the "UK Original Orange ROM" (avaialbe on UK Oragne website here http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Business&c=OUKPage&cid=1044134915191 )

But for heaven's sake this ROM belongs to the Ice Age of WM5 and the Radio it contains (1.38.00.01) has the signature of cave men of ancient times!

I played around with this orginal ROM of antiquity for a while and was surprised with the Excellent reception of the phone. But it was WM5 with ****loads of Orange useless ugly stuff. I was desparate to revert to WM6.1

Now I was sitting there wondering what would happen if I flash Binky's new WM6.1 ROM on this original WM5 ROM with the ancient Radio.

At last I gave it a go (I was ready to have a dead brick on my hand).

But everything went on smoothly. Now the ROM is WM6.1 but the Radio belongs to the ancient WM5 era. Neverthelss, the phone works PERFECTLY and I am SOOOO Happy with the reception and the battery life (which improved so drastically that I sometimes wonder whether the device uses any battery power at all !!).

Sir, what should I do with all those "warnings" about not using XXX Radio on XXX ROM ...etc. ?

Thanks a lot for your insight and guidance.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I realize this is addressed to ATW, and I'm sure he will feel free to respond as well, but since this is posted in the public forum and not a PM, I must respond...WTF?

If you are running a ROM and a Radio and they are working perfectly for you, what do you think you should do with "warnings" that ATW and others have made about using different radios for an entirely

different

device?

If it is working, it's working, be happy. AFAIK, no radio (on the kaiser) is going to brick your phone. The only problem we had was the locked radio from hell, which is now unlockable. A radio that is not properly paired to the ROM will just result in poor performance and maybe no performance at all in some areas.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
Thanks very much for the input.

like yourself (as u usually mention in your posts) , i hate jumping to overall conclcusions, but perhaps we can extend your comment and say:

no radio (kaiser, hermes or other pdas) is going to brick the phone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I'm not going to make that overall sweeping statement, as I don't want anyone angry at me if they brick their phone from a radio :)

That being said, YOU ALREADY flashed your radio and are having what you explain as stellar performance.

That being the case, I'm not sure why you are concerned.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] AllTheWay:
As I appreciate the compliments on being the god of radio's I am far from that. I just know how to rip them from shipped ROM's and make them freely available to the public. There are many users who have a greater knowledge of radios other then me, but again I appreciate the compliment.

Being that the Kaiser Forum has become the novice forum for all Tilt / Kaiser owners I just wanted to give people the heads up on what Radios work with which ROM's. Certain there are going to be variations on which ones work and which ones don't. Just didn't want to confuse anybody. As far as I know and experimenting from my own knowledge you can flash radio's from other devices if they have the similar chipset, hence being able to use NIKI, POLARS, SEDNA, radio's for the Kaiser who have the Qualcomm 7200.

I could be totally wrong on this assumption and please somebody correct me if I am wrong.

ROM developers such as duttythroy and Laurentius26 have been able to make hybrid versions that are able to utilize different radio's with different ROM's. Example. The first WM6.1 Beta that was released actually contained a WM6 radio (1.27.12.11). Even though this ROM was not true Kaiser WM6.1 ROM as it was ported from another device, it does show that ROM makes can use different radio's with different ROMs. I actually have the theory that you can use WM6 radio's on WM6.1 if the appropriate .dll's and drivers are modified. Would love to see a WM6.1 ROM use a 1.27.12.11 radio btw. :)

As far as I know and talking with duttythroy and Laurentius26 the new Diamond ROMs are not possible of using the older WM6.1 Radio's i.e. 1.64.xx.xx and 1.58.xx.xx radios.

I would heed the warning, from Jockyw2001 that I have in my signature, about flashing radios.

That's a good idea. Don't want anybody blaming you for bricking there phone.

Thank you for your insight and the great work you do in the NIKI forum. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] memon01:
i think im brain dead with the number of sleepless nights ive spent trying to fix this phone. im trying to install hardspl 3.29 and it wont update. my system says spl-1.0.OliPof. any ideas?