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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RaverX3X:
You know I wonder since they are the same phone granted different revisions of the phone. Wonder if flashing the sprint pbl sbl aboot, etc would actually work without bricking the device. Since other then the modem's quite possibly the radio may not be the same, technically it should NOT brick... But would require a dump of the sprints device and pbl sbl etc.

if this gets posted a few times sorry, website was being weird for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i dont think anyone can touch the pbl, not even in edl mode.. but worth a shot with the bootloaders and other partitions.. in theory if this worked then should b able to use the images from stock firmware..

typically in the past tho they would be signed with different keys.. i have nothing to lose in trying lol
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Syaps:
Do you know if anyone has released the full eng firmware publicly yet? I'd love to play around with it on my At&T version, just to see whats available to exploit.

Syaps

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Also, I do allot of robotics programming and I was wondering if anyone has tried using an Arduino to flash the bootloader? In the arduino, you have an option to remove the self flashing partition to save ram space, but you can only reflash the code if you daisy chain the arduino to another one. It's basically like fast booting into a bootloader to flash another system. I'm wondering if we could do the same with the USB c port of the phone. Power off the phone, connect it to the arduino, connect the arduino to the computer, boot the arduino and flash the phone through the arduino ide. The phone is technically off, but still has power. Should be able to flash whatever you want without having to worry about secure checks. Anyway, just a thought. Trying to tie a few of my different hobbies together to see if we can't make some strides here.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
As far as I know, there is no engineering bootloader. I am not sure an arduino is a good idea or not (it's over my head), but I suggested something like a dongle that plugs into the charger port or headphone jack that upon power up, somehow crashes the CPU or bootloader long enough for unsigned code to be implemented. The OP got the bootloader unlocked, the thing is it relocks before he can do anything with it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RaverX3X:
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currently trying to remove all the locks from the stock recovery and stock rom to allow unlocking if it at all possible, also just using the extracted info to build twrp and trying to re flash it back as a recovery replacement in odin instead of the stock recovery.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
there is.. i have it lol.. nothing useful has come of it yet unfortunately.. vbmeta/verified boot has stopped just about everything ive tried so far
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
So an engineering bootloader does exist. Well that's awesome I guess, but not so awesome that it isn't useful.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yea, i have the full eng firmware.. basically none of the other images even boot at all because they are eng binary which wont boot on user devices unless its converted to eng with a token or somethin
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
So is the eng firmware unlocked as far as the bootloader goes? Would it be possible to copy the CID from it over to a locked bootloader device and get it working that way? Like on the Verizon galaxy s5.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
uhh.. i dont think thats how it works lol..

and no, theveng bl so far acts the ssme as stock and combo bls do for me..

the CID i believe is tied to the device, not to the firmware.. plus there isnt really any "dev/eng" devices like their used to b... nowadays eng devices r regular user devices that engineers have set to eng mode via w.e means they do it.. i dont think anyone knows exactly how its done but i think it involves getting specific device info then somehow computing some other code specific to each device then has to be officially signed then need some way to flash it or however they do it
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
I think I get it. I got real lost there lol. So if the CID and eng firmware is a no go, is there an unlocked eng bootloader out there? There's got to be a way to trick the device like fake a digital signature somehow or make it think anything signed is Samsung official. Not having root is really starting to suck. Is there a way to hack the bootloader or the firmware to fool it into thinking it's unlocked? I am just throwing stuff out here.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
Eng mode requires a mating tool and "key" (one of those dongles that has a code shown on it but only for a certain amount of time). They thought it through quite well.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
to be clear i can flash the abl.elf and it does work.. it also breaks everything else as far as footers hashes, vbmeta etc etc so it doesnt boot to os or anythijg, only dl mode
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yea, ive heard simar.. although in the past the eng token was simply a steady.bin which i can modify and flash.. i also have an apk called EM.service.apk or somethin a friend gabe me butbwithout a good token its useless along with 99% of the firmwarevsince it also cannot b flashed lol
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LYNNYY:
Any luck on unlocking the bootloader yet? Hopefully it's in the near future ????
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
I'm sure thread will be updated the minute it happens
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RaverX3X:
Honestly I'd just work on rooting the device more or less locked bootloader's typically stay locked . Sadly as only the Verizon one seems locked
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Zephcemi:
Just wanted to let you know I appreciate everyone's hard work. Even if we never get a rootable AT&T samsung device ever again, it's heartening to know there are still people dedicated to the cause out there, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kw69747:
this is 975U sprint version? mine doesn't say anything about unlock

nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
if ur referring to the bl unlockable device you can literally see the model in the pictures lol.. its a sprint S10 5g aka g977p.. u versions are not unlockable
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Akaze:
S10+ Rootable or not?

Has there been any progress on rooting G975U or is it still impossible?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
Still nothing on this. Our phones may never get root access.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Akaze:
Dang... I don't know what to say... I think Samsung beat the rooting community this time..
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
If we give up then we are sheep not a community. Samsung has backed down in others countries and legal jurisdictions. It's up to us to force the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Akaze:
..I have to agree, but is anyone working on getting it to work? But is anyone currently working on getting these things rooted? The Exynos variants are so easily rooted yet the Snapdragon are stupid difficult.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
The only way to force this issue is to do it legally as I have said before. A Class action suit that effects the corporate sales and bottom line. The Qualcom soc is unlock able in Mexico and even in China...The EU has ruled that Samsung can't void the hardware warranty if there is no intentional physical damage.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Akaze:
But will anyone do it?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
lass action means more than one
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Akaze:
How did you get to that unlocking screen?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i flashed combo then toggled oem unlock switch on.. after that the option is available in dl mode
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Akaze:
Flashed Combo?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yes.. you know, factory binary firmware aka combo firmware

Sent from my SamPWND N976V or G975U
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] strubedo:
How did you flash combo firmware I keep seeing where people are getting the error please get permission to flash a factory binary how did you solve that the post on the internet do not work.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Twaun1200:
Is there any other way to root the s10 plus
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
No
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Arden144:
Because the method of flashing it isn't public
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
So does this mean we're getting root finally or no?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jwarrior319:
Nope. Since it requires an eng key or something hard to get like that. He just happens to know a guy.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] strubedo:
Can you tell me how up flash a combination file on a a505u1 of course it says please get approval to flash factory binary can you please tell me how to do this I figured if anyone would know it would be you.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
who knows z guy? send em my way lol
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
dunno. isnt that a exynos device? either way as stated already the method isnt public.. i didnt find the method so its not my place to tell ppl..
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lilmarie90:
I hope this isnt a stupid question, but I'm just curious.

So you've messed with flashing the combination software, and I understand the source and methods are private and not yours to share, but I'm wondering, have you seen any possibilities for rooting in the future? Or is it making a possible root seem close to impossible
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jwarrior319:
The S8 got root a couple years later so maybe by the S12 we'll finally get it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lilmarie90:
I'm just so tired of the greater and greater locks against rooting that manufacturers use.

The idea that they can decide that i cant modify anything on a device that belongs to me is rediculous.

Makes me wonder how hard it would be to band enough people together in order to take legal action to ban measures that prevent modification of privately owned devices.

Or maybe I just sound stupid, idk
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
Everytime I have brought this up some clown says that would stop Samsung from selling phones to corporate customers. Pure BS if Samsung wants to sell to Corporate America then they can tailor a model to the needs of that customer. The European models have to be customizable to the purchaser's needs (root).
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
lmao no it didnt.. i released sampwnd n had to b within the year of its release..

there were multiple people helpin and testing various things tho so it went a lot quicker.. therea really no one workin on it anymore.. just me when i get time really
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
i mean technically the carrier owned it first when they put in the order with samsung at which they decide what to do with them.. in fact they arent doing anything illegal. To the people it is important to they should be well aware of what theyre getting in to which is why most devs have moved on to unlocked devices. Not to mention they have very large contracts with the very people you would need to lobby to have anything changed which they want the devices as secure as possible aka govt lol.

but yea.. i mean after all is said and done and its fully paid off then I agree lol.. uve paid in full we should have the option.. at same time they can argue and it would probably then turn into not allowing rooted devices on their network or something
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
I like many appreciate your work on this issue , but think about this...without us individual consumers where would the carriers and manufacturers be?

SOL.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Blackweiser35:
I work in the wireless industry specifically, Verizon Wireless. Honestly for 15 years I have sold wireless products and compairing Apples to Oranges it's simple. Just like promotions offered to a new customer or exisiting customer, with phone purchases. A new customer is welcomed with huge discounts and gift cards, while the exisiting ones are left scratching their heads. Is a dollar value worth more over the other. Its all marketing tactic to promote revnue, meanwhile the round table of exceuctives pockets get fatter. If getting the Bootloader made business sense and could make profit, a solution would offered. Executives do not see the value as we see things. As I am about to graduate in June with my Electronic Engineering degree and move forward. I would love to offer any assistiance in this mission to give the people what is entitled. Samsung has been walking a thin line walking this path....
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] loonycgb2:
Pretty late, but do you have a working firehose for the snapdragon 855?

I have worked with sahara mode alot, could possibly get custom commands working to interface with the sahara file insertion & read/write mode. Have done the same with the many zte devices to get a working twrp and root.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ARealSmokey:
I'm assuming that the method in this guide is bogus? Or at the very least it does not work on the vzw s10+ variant? It seems too good to be true but they credit xda with the method. My new s10+ will be here in 2 days and I'd love for rooting it to be the very first thing I do.

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Well I attempted to post the link, but I'm unable to because I've been a lurker forever and never made an account until now. Anyways, if anyone is interested I can pm the link maybe?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jwarrior319:
The US model is not rootable yet. The bootloader is locked and can only be unlocked with a very expensive engineer token thats specific to each device. Someone on here found another way but isnt able to share. Maybe in the future. Only the international and HlK/China Snapdragon model can be unlocked.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ARealSmokey:
I presumed as much after reading through this thread. Good luck to you fine people who are working on this, I know that I and many others appreciate the work you all do! Good luck!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
The only reason I want root for my U.S. snapdragon model is to freeze the damn OTA updates that AT&T forces on you if you have their service. The AT&T Android 10 firmware is so buggy it's sad when Android 9 was solid stable. At least on my phone it was.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sremick:
I want to uninstall some of the Samsung bloatware that they don't let you remove. Also I want to enable some utilities that require root. Putting on a custom ROM with more functionality than One UI would also be nice.

I don't care about Samsung/Android Pay so I don't care about Knox.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
It would be desirable to have an ad blocker that requires root. Payment apps should be a user choice. In the U.S. Samsung earns from the bloatware and those damn ads. I have seen people, possible Samsung shills, saying locking the bootloader is for corporations that buy large amounts of phones for their employees. Terrific then Samsung should produce products to those specs. Even the Chinese communist government made Samsung provide an app to unlock the bootloader. As Americans should we have less rights and freedom?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sremick:
Agreed. I am currently using Block This! but it works as a VPN and not as well as AdAway did.

Agreed, along with some other banking/investment apps that I know refuse to run if you're rooted. There should be no reason they're any less secure on a rooted phone than the website is on a computer where the user has local admin rights.

I also miss the ability to use something like Titanium Backup to actually back up ALL of an app's data.

And for some reason, Nintendo's Android app won't run if you're rooted. It doesn't give an error/message... it just closes.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sw1173:
It would seem that both AT&T and Verizon have gotten the message in their cable divisions. Both have announced different viewing options to bring back subscribers who have " cut the cord" and therefore affected their bottom line.

Samsung became the go to when Apple locked out the ability to customize our phones. I understand that if you purchase the device on a payment plan it's not yours until it's fully paid for. Then you have a "partner" who can veto rooting. If you need to have the latest and greatest your choices have limits. Any moron who loads apps with universal permissions is a moron. It's a tmobile phone not a 6 inch computer to be allowed to run your life on!

The networks we all use to communicate with each other don't really care if the devices are rooted or not. They just want your monthly fees.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Blackweiser35:
Verizon has endorsed themselves with the launch of 5g this year. I dont think to them it matters root or no root. Byod is an everyday thing for me, activating lines on their network. There should be an option after meeting device payment requirements to pay a fee for rooted devices. The term if it does notmake dollars it does not make sense. Verizon is a cash cow and will always be a pillar in wireless technology. Selling off 5g grids for black shadow compaines to indulge in ratification of society's degenerates, seems to pay high dividends these days. The things you learn while attending your degree in electronic engineering.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
yes.. i have for multiple devices.. g975u rev1 and rev2, n960u, n976v, n970u, n975u etc etc.. i also have some other files like g975u rev1 eng, g975u rev2 debug nhlos and debug vbmeta etc etc

not sure if I can part tho lol.. my sources typically dont want me to share the files since they are usually leaked or obtained from samsung sources and usually cost a pretty penny..

if u r knowledgeable in that aspect tho and think u could help pm me and maybe we can work something out..

i dont think the same methods will work tho as they do on zte.. to my understanding zte uses edl to flash fastboot enabled firmware from other devices which isnt possible on samsung.. u can flash say chinese bootloaders but device will simply reboot to edl mode due to wrong signatures.. also, the basic flashing to lun0 0 (i.e. system, product, vendor, boot, recovery etc.) is not allowed on devices after n8 even in edl mode..

now ive heard some theories such as modifying gpt but its beyond my experience in edl and ive not actually seen it being used or done in the real world.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
its not bogus but is also not oem unlocked unfortunately.. it is possible to get the toggle and the option in dl mode but after months of testing it remains locked..

i can get system uid on combo (on any samsung combo exynos or sd) but havent found a way to leverage to root still unfortunately.. security is pretty significantly improved from n9 to s10 and newer
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
you can disable the ota apps very easily.. u can use csswe (or w.e its called) ice box, adb etc etc. root hasnt been needed for this for years now
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] loonycgb2:
EDL aka sahara mode is the same on all qualcomm devices since it is a qualcomm standard interface, same as the firehose elf files used to communicate and accept signature for communication.

Also yes GPT table can be modified in every way linux/unix works its gpt, but since android is made for specific partitions the best you can do is resize and enlarge or create other partitions.

I can make my own firehose so long as you can hex edit the official firehose for the 975u and send me the var names.

But as far as EDL it can be used to pull information and files, but the main objective would be to flash a modified boot with twrp and possibly boot unlock or force flash a eng boot which will still allow the system to boot and unlock.

ZTE zmax pro does not have fastboot nor will it accept another device content unless you want a brick lol, ZTE has enforced signatures from sbl1.

Either way forcing the s10 into EDL mode requires shorting pins which i doubt most will want to root by opening there phones unless you have an idea of how to use EDL to exploit for root or just modify a odin file to corrupt the partition that loads the custom odin framework on the phone to load EDL mode.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Grid4:
I am still waiting to donate on working root method. Please someone come up with this fast.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] elliwigy:
if only it were that simple
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
This is just some speculation, might be useless.

The Playstation 2 uses .ELF files to boot ****. Could a PS2 somehow be used to modify or create .ELF files for our phones here?

Also what about JTAG? Is that possible on the S10+ ? Or maybe attack the bootloader or CPU of the phone? Not sure any of this is worth mentioning, but I figured I would post anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Titan0107649:
Sm-g975u sprint verson

I've been reading most of your blogs and I gotta ask.. does anyone have any clue how I can root and flash my rom from the manufacturer to another carrier without having to use wifi or mobile network functions. There is a service ban on my phone which disables wifi and mobile data.. please please help if you can..
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] discountbias:
Are you able to use USB connection to a computer?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
If you have a 975U model, it can't be rooted. However, you can flash the Samsung unlocked firmware or any carrier firmware made for the phone (Verizon, Sprint, etc.) by using the patched version of Odin floating around the forums here. The bootloader has to match though. You can't flash bootloader 1 firmware to a phone that has bootloader 2 firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Titan0107649:
I think the issue

I have been using only u versions.. not u1 versions and I think the issue is that there are no versions up here ending in siv.. or does that not matter. I'll look around tonight and see if I can find the patched versions of odin because I do most definitely want to flash my phone to t-mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] StoneyJSG:
From what I understand is that the bootloader doesn't matter. Flashing T mobile firmware will give you all the T mobile bloatware. There's also the unlocking portion. The patched Odin is floating around the forums here. It's odin3-3.13.1-3B_patched