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[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] aoaleman:
Try disabling Digital Wellbeing. It's helped a lot of Pixel users.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/12/18616747/google-digital-wellbeing-slower-pixel-performance
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dimpoblimpo:
try going back to the latest version of oreo. I find it smoother and the battery seems more steady on the decline.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
I already did that, it improved the responsiveness and delay, but all of these issues still stand.

I can't understand if I am truly the only one, because I can't find nobody complaining, except when there was that huge delay, but I don't have such extreme case.

I don't really want to do that, there are many improvements from Pie, that I really favor. Did You go back to Oreo because You were experiencing the issues, how long ago was this?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] beezar:
Try factory resetting then restoring. I'm on pie and have no stuttering whatsoever
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] dimpoblimpo:
I don't really want to do that, there are many improvements from Pie, that I really favor. Did You go back to Oreo because You were experiencing the issues, how long ago was this?[/QUOTE]

I got my pixel 2xl in November and liked oreo but upgraded after a few weeks to pie. Had it going for a little over a month and battery was the first thing I noticed having the operating system take up second most battery next to screen on time. Too many features and background stuff happening I saw no benefit for so I decided to try Pie ROMs to customize the volume rocker menu and just have a cleaner gapps with less pie stuff. After a few weeks of different ROMs I just went back to stock Oreo and haven't looked back. My curiosity of trying pie and customizing ROMs was fulfilled and now I'm just keeping what I found the safest for everyday when shuffling apps and relying on battery.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
I already did that. Did not help at all. I have the same issues in Safe Mode too.

Can you try to record a 4K video, then play it back on Google Photos, and as it's playing swipe up?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] richii0207:
Nobody asked the most important things:

1: stock, unrooted?

2. Beta Q or official Pie?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
+1 ^^^^^^^^^^^

If 100% stock, there's probably not much you can do except a factory reset. If you've already done that with little to no improvement, then maybe you just have an aging device.

If rooted, I'd suggest a full wipe, 100% clean flash of the latest factory image (leave the -w intact).

My 2 XL is one of the earliest released devices (Oct 17) and it still runs like new. Of course I'm rooted and flash a fresh factory image monthly (or every other month) and only charge my battery for 15% to 95% (no empirical evidence that it absolutely helps, but it doesn't hurt).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Stock official Pie. Had the issue for all the versions I ever had, since I started noticing the issues ~1 month after purchase. Purchased as new in 2018 November.

Not related to aging, maybe defective hardware. No physical or otherwise abuse. I take extra care not to overcharge the battery, or discharge.

It runs "like new" to me as well, but I have stutters in certain places, and it's uncertain to me if it's even a hardware defect, maybe it's software bug.

I have performed a factory reset. And I also tried opting in for Android Q beta, and then opting out, to make the phone download a new factory image. But I only ever did it with the phone, without rooting or anything similar.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
Still under the 1 year warranty, why not get an RMA and get a replacement?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
I'm just not convinced that this is indeed a hardware issue.

I've seen users talking about this, a little bit, but none have taken this seriously, so maybe they just get used to it.

For comparison OnePlus 3T and Samsung S8 is so much more laggy compared. But I didn't get the low frame rates in earlier mentioned areas.

Edit: To further explain the reason for not RMA'ing. If there's no proof that the issue is RMA'able, then I'm just going to waste my and their time on something that can't be fixed.

Edit2: There are people saying that Samsung phones don't lag and stutter, yet I have not seen a single Samsung phone that doesn't lag and stutter. Yes, even the S10. Pixel 2 XL is smoother than the S10. But while it is smoother, I experience these frame rate slow downs, I do not see on other phones.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
My RMA suggestion was based on your comment that this was first noticed soon after purchase as well as on multiple versions.

Only you know what's best for you and your device; we're just offering suggestions for your to consider :good:
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
I appreciate it, very much.

So You're saying, that You don't experience any stutters or lags, that I mentioned, or that I didn't..?

And You are not counting in, but notice the lags and stutters that get introduced, when you use the phone while apps are installing or updating, yes?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
The only time I experience stutters/lag with my 2 XL is when I refuse to stop using Froyo era apps, or when messing with custom Roms / kernels. The lag usually goes away once I clean flash the factory image, or delete the 30 year old apps :p

I've been very fortunate with most of my devices. Maybe I'm not as adventurous in my flashing, beta testing, or experimenting as others,
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Can I ask You to help test out a few places?

Here is a example of the effect I experience: https://photos.app.goo.gl/Rj1VLkESQfonsaVAA

The Google Photos place has this, some older gen apps as in the video above.

And when opening a download, or getting the old gen app list, which looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png

To replicate:

1. Open Google app

2. Open any link which has a picture that can be downloaded

3. Long press on a picture to download

4. Press on notification of downloaded file message, it should open in "Chrome" with pathway file:///storage...

5. Click on "share" button
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] blackbird5308:
Absolutely, the "Open with" dialog is the single lagging place in all the Pixel UI.

Always experienced this in every version, stock / Q, with or without custom kernels.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
I went to imgur, clicked link to download pic, clicked on download file, popped right open.

Did this a few times, no lag at all.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
That is reassuring, but still troubling. Thanks for telling me.

I have exactly the same experience, I also tried Q and it was the same.

Popped right open, means that you have a default set for the app which opens the download.

What stutters here is the menu that shows apps to : open the file with
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Sentheb3ast:
What setup of ROM, kernel and mods do you have?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] 100rabh7791:
I think it must be a Ram just probably. Hopefully will fix in Q
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Dude, please stop. This conclusion is as absurd as it can get.

4GB is enough, that's a fact. It's not ideal, if You'd want to keep everything open, but let's get real here, who plays more than 1 game at a time, and unless they're both ultra heavy games, you can keep 2 active, at the same time.

I can't say that I would be against the amazing RAM hibernation of Apple devices, but it's not something you can't live without, and not something Android system at the moment can manage, without draining your battery dead, while the apps stay open in the background.

See this article https://www.androidauthority.com/how-much-ram-do-you-need-in-smartphone-2019-944920/

If you were referring to RAM management, then You should have said so in the first place, because that's something that I would be very happy to see solved or improved.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
Currently a little behind running April factory image, Ex 2.16, latest Magisk, and TWRP 3.2.3-1.

Only mod I use is blackened mod (battery saver)...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] mookiexl:
Never happened on mine
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] beezar:
I don't get any stuttering with this. Nor with the other examples you listed. Sorry
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Hmm, maybe then I do have a defective device..

I'll be trying to RMA it then, IDK.

I really hope that it's not something difficult to notice. Though to me it seems obvious, I notice it a lot, and in many places, for most Android phones, but not 100% of the time, sometimes it's smooth as butter.

Edit: I hope it's really not the case of dude on Youtube saying that there's no lag at all, and you can see all the lag and stuttering even in 30fps video.

Also going back to OP3T, there are stutters as well, but it's harder to spot them because most of the animations are very fast, that I don't have the time to notice them clearly, I have to focus on them to see them. What's also weird, is that almost all of the areas I mentioned don't have the low frame rate issue.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Sentheb3ast:
Nice! What did you mean by battery saver?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] bigmatt503:
Purchased mine March 2018 from Google and it's rooted on stock without any issues. I don't shoot any videos in 4k so I have zero ideas on that.

And the stuttering thing has never happened either.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
The Mod squeezes out a little extra life from the battery. Not sure exactly how, tweaks the kernel, shuts down wake locks, stuff like that I presume.

Like ANYTHING else with our devices, different people use their devices differently, so things like screen on time are very random. But I gained about 30-45 min of SOT using the blackened mod.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Another place I have the issue in.

On Google app image search, zooming almost any photo, same effect in safe mode. Only landscape mode!

Video below

https://photos.app.goo.gl/q3aiZPdFe87GfJdv6

Disclaimer: The video through Google Photos only gets rendered in 30fp/s, making almost all the animations look like they're suffering from low-frame rate,

and the discussed issue hard to spot.

Downloading the original video, enables original frame-rate playback (60fp/s).

File size ~47MB

Edit:

OnePlus 3T on Oreo: Zooming doesn't work at all (not allowed or implemented)

Samsung S8 on Pie: Has the issue to the same degree, even in portrait mode.

I don't have a different phone to test, but it seems like all devices on Android Pie could be affected by this.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Sab3elbromba:
I am 100% stock and I have the digital well being app installed, and I have 0 slow downs or stutters *Knock on wood*

I don't know what the differentiating factor is, but I am very satisfied with my 2XL :)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] von_block:
Why did this thread got so long?

OP is clearly trolling or he's very very sensitive to micro lag.

Come on, he's saying the Galaxy S10 is a stutter fest!

There's nothing we can do.

Buy an iPhone, i heard they're really smooth (not sure if it's enough though)
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Did You try the places I mentioned? Not that I would want to ruin it for you, I think that it's impossible not to notice the stutters and slowdowns I'm experiencing. I am going to RMA the device.

Not trolling, and I did not say that "Galaxy S10 is a stutter fest", those are your words.

I said that Pixel devices, from what I've seen, manage to be smoother than Samsung devices, even their newer one, which has far better specs.

Even iPhones have stutters and lags, I can deal with that. But there are these slowdowns occurring 100% of the time when performing certain actions, which is NOT normal, and even the more stuttery Android phones don't have this.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] ouldsmobile:
I have noticed since I installed the May update my phone seems a little slow to unlock at times. It is most noticeable/reproducable if I use the double click power button to try to get into the camera quickly. There is quite a delay until camera is open and ready. I am also on latest kiriskura. I might try reverting to stock kernel to try and see if it is the May updates or the custom kernel causing the slowdowns. Other than that I have no issues.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lywyn:
Stock, not rooted. Android 9 with May update. Digital Wellbeing turned on.

Don't suffer any of the examples posted.

Changing orientation in photos, smooth.

Old apps open as quick as new apps.

Googling a high res image and zooming in/out smooth.

Downloading image and clicking Share button immediately showed shortcuts and list of apps to scroll through

I have never noticed stuttering or lag so it may be your device, might be worth trying to RMA it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
1. Not the orientation changing itself. When in Landscape mode, and when playing back a 4K video recorded with the phone, and then interacting with the phone, as it's being played back.

2. Not talking about opening of the apps, but rather the interacting with the apps, some older apps run much worse, which is understandable, but the fact that on S8 and OP3T the same apps run much smoother bothers me a lot. Because I specifically got this phone, despite it's shortcomings, for smoothness and stability.

3. Googling within the Google app? Because I don't experience this in Chrome, only Google app.

4. Then it's a different share menu, not the one I talked about, the one that stutters looks like this : https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] yadhu:
Hi Guys,

I am facing an issue wherein whenever I unlock my pixel, i get a blank screen (only wallpaper and nothing else). This happens 95% of the times.

Is this a known bug ? Is there a fix ? I am on the latest available update. Not Rooted.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
I found a thread on Reddit, which was way back on Android P release.

But there were multiple reports of slowdown and lag, what if you guys (who didn't experience it) just got used to it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9e7iag/discussion_has_your_pixel_2_xl_gotten_slower/

Just to be clear, I am hyper sensitive to lags and micro stutters, I usually notice them at almost every occasion, it's hard for me to get distracted. Unconsciously I am always watching for it.

It probably dates back when I got a AMD card with never ending driver issues, and 70% of the games had stutters, and I had to try and tweak settings, wait for updates just to be able to get a some-what smooth game performance.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Le_Combattant:
After 7 months, my phone still smooth.

I hard reset him every two months.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Aur3L:
None here also. I happen to flush the cache with trimmer and take time time to update on the regular Google images and then go back to root and twrp and custom ROMs or just stock. For now after a year of use, I get good sot and finish the day with around 25 % but this last remaining quarter of battery charge is draining fast. Days start at 9am and ends by 4am the next night. So with that mixed use, stock or flashing custom ROMs, on lte only , it lasts well. Still wished it had the speakers of the nexus 6P.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Oof, reseting every two months., what a chore. At least do you use Google Backup, or some other method of backup? You have to sign in again into apps...

I'm not going to do life lessons, but this is not something that anyone should do, with few exceptions.

Edit: I will be RMA'ing for sure, I can't take this anymore. I tried everything that I could imagine, and the issue persists. I refuse to believe that nobody notices this.

My 3T stutters for a very short while, so it's barely noticeable, and doesn't have the low fps issue. I just updated to Android 9.0 and it performs better than Pixel 2 XL, this is totally not normal. Hoping it's really a hardware issue, and will be fixed after RMA.

The Pixel is smooth and slow for the most part, and then when stutter occurs it's slow-er and very stuttery, the contrast of it makes me mad. Setting faster animation speed or disabling altogether doesn't make it better.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Le_Combattant:
It's an average.

But i have only;

Snap

Reddit

Messenger

Google Podcast

FRandroid

SNCF

Bank app

installed on my phone so the configuration is fast after a hard reset.

And i only save my sms
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] paulyz:
I'm one year with pixel and never did factory reset. Phone fast and smooth. Stock android.

Samsung phone's after year has micro lags sometimes, but, it's for bloatware I think.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] lywyn:
1. Recorded a 4K video, in landscape. Watched it, scrolled forwards and back with no stutter.

2. All the apps on my phone open fine, I don't really have many extra over the ones installed. Also I don't use social media apps which I do think have an impact. My friend has a Pixel 3 running facebook and Instagram, she has terrible battery life compared to my phone.

3. Tried it that way, no different. Also the google app uses Chrome engine so not sure it would be different.

4. Tried sharing things a few ways, had all 3 types of menu appear and none of them slow or stuttering.

Ever since I gave up social networks 3 years ago my phones have been great. Great battery life, great speed.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Thanks for confirming. I have RMA'd the device, this was totally not normal performance.

It's not even fault of any installed apps or preferences.

I did a Factory reset + wipe, set up as new phone, tried the Google Photos issue, after updating all the built-in apps. The lag was there, just as before with previous setups. Lagging and stuttering in all other system tasks as well.

Does Google even perform quality inspections for their products, it seems like they were conserving money and put the quality testing on users hands.. as they do with the software, often enough.

My device was clearly faulty. Hopefully I'll get a fully working device and without any other new issues.

I had 2018 February batch Pixel 2XL, Panda 128GB.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Wow now that's as minimal as it gets.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Husky34:
No, they don't.

In the last cuple of month I had to do RMA 3 times:

One have a black section on the screen after the first power on.

The second one had a really bad glued screen (o think for a battery replacement)

The last one battery lasts only 3,5h screen time ( performed 2 wipe in a month and installed only foundamental app , no social at all)

The one I have now is great, but it was a really bad experience.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
That's terrible. It's almost as if they've put so much faith in the speed of their RMA and support division, that they're skipping quality control.

Plus they can sell a faulty device to a non-tech-savvy user, instead of disposing or repairing it.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Husky34:
Yes, but they care about the exterior, every one was perfect on the outside (expect the one bad glued) screen and chassis without any scratch, even minimum.

Eventually we can fina a good device, maybe in the US is different, I live in Italy (and the phone is shipped from Belgium).
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Maybe, but unlikely after seeing the reports throughout the world.

I'm getting the phone from Germany.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Update: I got the phone back, unrepaired. Because the service center used for this device was some 3rd party one, a different supplier in Germany, but not Google.

Sigh...

It would be awesome if someone would make a 60fps screen recording of the issue I'm having, maybe most just don't perceive this as lag or slowdown...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Probably this. For me, I think because I set animations to 0.5, it moves too fast to see the little frame drops. But I definitely don't experience lag or slowdown. There's a difference. Performance has aged very well since receiving my phone October 2017 and the only thing getting old is the battery.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Most of the animations are fine. The lag appears in certain places.

For example, when you download a image using Chrome, and then use the share button, and the share menu is 1/2 the frame rate. It's so weird, I don't have this on any other phone, and it seems to be a Pixel 2 XL only issue, not all Pixel devices.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Still unsure what you mean for the share menu. You're saying "lag" but also saying it's "half the framerate". Is it both?

Share menu to show up apps to share with, that kind of lag, is a Pie thing. It's sped up a lot with Q. But the animation, for it popping up in the first place, I remember it animating fine on Pie.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
It's kind of both, see example here. (Download for 60fps) https://photos.app.goo.gl/GL4KSDif2zrmk4ez8

The suggested shares lagging on the grid share menu is a widespread Pie issue, but I'm talking about this kind of share menu: https://i.imgur.com/qhRZE09.png
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah I've seen the video before and see the difference without even downloading.

That share menu, which isn't regularly seen, has changed in look Q. See my attachments.

View attachment 4788639

View attachment 4788640

I do see the frame rate dropping, even in Q, but it's very reactive in popping up. I've seen your other examples too, like when in Google Photos on a video in landscape and swiping up for more info. It's not as smooth as when in portrait. It's so specific though and it's not lag but frame rate dropping that it's never bothered me because I rarely see it.

By the way, there's no need to download a photo in Chrome to share. You can always share a photo directly in Chrome by long pressing and tapping "Share image" . Just saying.
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Xypleth:
Thanks for the deets.

It's a shame it hasn't changed, performance wise. But good to hear, that I'm not the only one, and that You can overlook it.

The habit of downloading before sharing comes from Google app sharing the image as a link, instead of actual downloaded image.

But this kind of menu, with it's issues, pops up on other actions too, often enough.

I guess I can deal with it, it's definitely not ideal, and it still worries me that it could be a general hardware issue, rather than just software..
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
Just flashed the July factory image (-w removed), and the latest: TWRP, EX Kernel, and Magisk. No lag or stuttering noticed.

Prior to this, I hadn't updated any of the above since March. Didn't notice any lag prior to updating to July factory image.

Only issue I seem to have, intermittently, is my batt indicator will sometimes only show a max charge of 98%, even if still plugged in. It only happens once in a while, and not a big enough deal for me to troubleshoot :D

Still super happy with the 2 XL and will likely wait for the 4 XL (or the 5 XL- if it is a phenomenal jump from the 4)...
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] EeZeEpEe:
Have you tried some of the specific examples mentioned though?
[Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers] Az Biker:
Yes, this has been discussed previously (not sure if it was here or in another thread) but I have worked it a few diff ways and haven't noticed any lag.