yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] aniketh12:
Yes can you please explain a little more on these new EAS governors so we can choose properly..!! i have been using PixUtil on 1.8 from a week.. getting very satisfactory performance and great battery backup on evoX beta..!!

You can add details of governors in your kernel as mentioned in below link if you want and create a thread on xda. since you are going through the logic of each governor, you will know well whether a governor is biased towards battery or performance or balanced in both.

https://androidmodguide.blogspot.co...7&re=1&sig=ACgcqhoJlD69CVA0MRLS4ba5P_f-BMTnfQ

The above link used to be a governor bible during the old days before EAS governors. Now i guess nothing is documented apart from the standard ShedUtil EAS governor..!! so if you can document it, it will be helpful for the whole community
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Yinx1234:
Thanks for the information ?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
Why can't I set the min CPU frequency to 652? It always reverts to 1ghz. And yes, please explain all the governors in your reserved post. ;)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
It scales to 1ghz because the rom has touch boost (rom side thing).

For CPU governor's , there is already a xda thread https://www.google.com/amp/s/xdafor...f-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957/amp/

For smurfutil, it depends state_notifier to calculate next frequency.

Pixel_smurfutil is similar to smurfutil but has different threshold values.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
Have you ever considered adding GPU input boost? I don't think our GPU scales quickly enough when there's demand on UI operations (just check it for yourself, use a high minimum clock for it, such as 560, and you'll notice how much smoother the UI will get). An input burst gpu boost driver for it would help with this issue, specially with a well thought configuration with a good balance between freq and time.

Also, I don't know if this is still a thing on 4.9 kernels, but there used to be a "hidden" gpu powerlevel (7) which used to make us be able to downclock the GPU to 19Mhz or something around that on idle. Maybe you could also have a look at it.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] berezker:
[/COLOR]

You can use kernel managers like FK and EX to control gpu powerlevel, by default it's 4
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
But you can't set it to that "special" one, 7. Which supposedly is 19Mhz.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Edit: I found it , just need to enable and test.

Edit2: It's not working, tried everything, will see that later.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
New version + pixutil gov = 6hr SOC ??

Edit : I do notice some lag using pixutil e.g. scrolling fast, opening certain apps
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
Talking about which one of the suggestions?

And yeah, take your time! If there's any way I can help, feel free to tell me ;)
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Was talking about 19mhz idle gpu, have to dig more.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Guess what
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
Nice, however didn't know it was also selectable that's fairly impressive. Back then you couldn't choose it, it just went to it during idle periods. Guess it was due to adreno idler or something.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
Awesome mate! May I ask what rom are you using?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
You can select the min CPU frequency to 19hz but it won't scale down to 19mhz because initial frequency by default is 320mhz. You have to manually select initial GPU frequency to 19mhz by using ex kernel manager or change default pwrlevel to 7 by using fk kernel manager.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Aosip.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] jampolito:
how? it goes back to powerlevel 4 when pressed back.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Replace the pwrlevel 7 with 4 in fk kernel manager.

I have been testing it, it didn't lag yet because it scales high when going normal things , 19mhz is only idle gpu frequency.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
Oh, I though you made it in a way that it was possible to actually choose it. Nevertheless, there's no problem, actually, it should be even better that way.

Any thoughts on GPU input boosting?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
I can make 19mhz (pwrlevel7) as initial GPU frequency but it needs more testing (want to know if it causes any lag).

Added gpu input boost but to enable that thing is completely manual (there is a command to set boost frequency and duration).
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ondy182:
Gpu input boost? Wouldn't it bring unnecessary battery drain?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
It is disabled by default, so no worries?.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
Battery life with a 1.5 year old battery, with WiFi (with mid-low signal), Sync, a Bluetooth device connected and high screen brightness. On ViperOs 6.4.

Below there's also my FKM settings and changes, everything else is left at default. There's also a script (which is ran during each boot with the help of FKM scripts feature) which plays an important role.

Should also mention that the lowmemorykiller is tuned in a way that the device holds a relatively huge amount of apps alive in the RAM.

My estimates tell me that it's the governor parameters and adreno idler that make the most notable changes.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
What rom mate?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] rafaelrizky153_:
Fix This, please

Problem with magisk 19.3, please solve this!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Describe the problem please.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] berezker:
What are you even talking about? there are no problems with magisk and even if there was, at least describe the problem instead of just mentioning it, how is that supposed to help the developer at all? be respectful next time
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] seanmcken:
slow moton works on this?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] berezker:
slow motion depends on the rom, not kernel

if you want slow motion on pie roms, you have to install miui camera or use oreo 8.1 roms
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Dior DNA:
fwiw no problem here with new magisk
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] uchiha28:
is this spectrum supported? ty
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
LightningKernel-V2.0

Changelog

Complete rebase on CAF

Merged V4.9.181

Merge CAF tag 'LA.UM.7.6.2.r1-08800-89xx.0'

Enabled 19MHz idle GPU frequency

Set default GPU frequency to 216MHz

Added GPU input boost feature (disabled by default)

Updated AnyKernel to V3

Single zip for both Treble and Non-Treble roms

Fixed app opening delay

Download link in the OP.

Telegram group link
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
I don't see the GPU boost option in kernel adiutor.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
I am going to remove it in next release, it's useless.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] ondy182:
Thank you for your work, I love it! There's just a single issue for me - since the klapse support I can't get LOS live display/night light to work... It resets back to "blue" colors after a while. So the only option to get warm colors is to turn it off and use the klapse.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
I'm also affected by this issue.

I like the scheduled dimming feature of klapse but getting it to work along LOS livedisplay is quite impossible right now. Even if you schedule klapse to work at different times.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
So I got around my lazy ass and made a magisk module for my personal "tweaks" I posted earlier. I named it LKSqueezer because that's its goal. Squeeze the most useful features from this kernel, bringing both performance and battery (specially battery) improvements. Keep in mind that there will be no support from the developer, so whenever you're reporting a problem to here be sure to have this module disabled! Not that it would cause any harm though.

You can just install it through magisk and forget about it (no need to manually set each setting on your kernel manager and/or configure any script).

The new battery friendly feature (19Mhz GPU frequency), present in the new 2.0 build, is being used as well.

The only thing missing, in contrast to my previous post, is the low memory killer values. You can still edit them to your liking though. Also my old post is still there.

[06/14/2019]: Little update that includes wakelock blocking, some more fine-tuning, fixes and overall better structure. SoT screenshots! All this with the mini opengapps package, low signal Wi-Fi, Bluetooth connected to 1 device, with Location and synchronization enabled. On a 1.5 year old device :)

[06/14/2019]: Another little update. Fsync is not disabled anymore. Also fine tuned scheduler time values and elected better feature flags for our SoC. Adreno idler is less aggressive as well.

[06/16/2019]: Little order changes which should make the settings much much much more less likely to not be applied. Reverted a shortcut which also caused some changes not to be applied. So, basically a stability improvement.

[06/18/2019]: Various fixes and improvements to the code organization. Log mechanics to give the user an ensurance that the changes had been applied. Switch to the deadline io scheduler along some adjustments to its behavior. Also added some filesystem mounting tweaks.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] aniketh12:
Pixel_SmurfUtil

I have not yet updated to 2.0 build. But have been using the previous build for quite a while now with Pixel_SmurfUtil governor and must say its awesome. Just thought of mentioning it to you prorooter. Have been using pixUtil and BluSched Util earlier. Have been using Evo X rom from nearly 2 months..!! finally i m getting best SOT with no logs whatsoever on pixel_smurfUtil. Thanks again for the awesome kernel.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RyGbrl03:
There's this bug that needs the device to sit idle for about a minute after rebooting to function normally. Or else, if used right away after booting, the device's screen flickers rendering unusable for some time then stops right after some time.

But overall, it's a great kernel!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
Nothing wrong over here.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Choupina:
Are you thinking about adding Spectrum support?

---------- Post added at 02:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 AM ----------

I'm experiencing some delay opening certain apps does that happen to you too?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
You probably flashed v2.0 on v1.9

Make sure you dirty flash rom before flashing kernel.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
No.

It was fixed in v2.0

Don't expect any support from my side if you use that script or lksquzeer magisk module that was posted earlier here.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] RyGbrl03:
That's what I actually did! But there's this new rom update and it works fine now. Thanks!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Choupina:
Yes I'm using v2.0 but somehow without doing anything seems to be better now, thanks! Even though you don't support it, would you recommend it?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
You can try , I don't know how well it works.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
LightningKernel-V2.1

Changelog

Merged V4.9.182

Updated KLAPSE to V5.0

Updated Blu_schedutil

Merged branch 'upstream-f2fs-stable-linux-4.9.y'

Merged lineage

Added vibration control

Blocked some Wakelocks by default

Download link in the OP.

Telegram group link
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] HACKINGwithMASH:
Is it over clock kernal? If its not can anyone sugges me which one is to go for. Since extreme is down down op i can't find one.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] berezker:
no it's not

overclocking is useless on phones
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
Ehhh, depends on what you are doing with your phone.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] berezker:
https://twitter.com/arter97/status/1132920483123359745

SD625 is already weak as it is, especially the gpu which is borderline pathetic

There's really no point in overclocking a weak cpu/gpu

That tweet by arter97 (a genius developer btw) explains this
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] methuselah:
Nice one. People don't understand this. But it's good when you explain with a best example
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] gougous3:
Yup. Also the performance segment our CPU is inserted in only starts showing noticeable improvements when you enter the the >50% higher performance range or so. The slight 10% to 20% higher performance you usually get from OCs aren't going to be worth it. You'll not notice it.

The only real useful OC would be on the gpu department but the gains aren't that good either (which means that our gpu probably isn't being limited by its clock).
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Jt380p:
It's been a long time since I've got 7½hr sot!

Info :

60-80% brightness

Heavy social media

Moderate gaming

Wifi only

Pixutil gov

AEX 6.6 (Jun)

Lightning kernel 2.1
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
LightningKernel-V2.2

Changelog

Merged v4.9.183

CPU Governor Lightningutil initial bringup , thanks to gougous3

Upstream Schedutil CPU governor

Upstream AnyKernel3

Implemented Arter's Rapid GC on F2FS

Increased default zram to 1024MB

Fixed KLAPSE

Download link in the OP.

Telegram group link
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] roshan2989:
i cant see vibration control in Kernel Adiuter?can you tell me where is the option..?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Kernel auditor doesn't have that option.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] roshan2989:
is there any app for that other than Kernel Auditor..?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Yes , smartpack kernel auditor.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] romantissm:
Thank you!

Can I flash this one over 2.1?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Yes you can.

If you have any issues then dirty flash rom and flash kernel.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] romantissm:
Is it recommended to revert back to stock kernel first?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Nope. But just in case.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
LightningKernel-V2.3

Changelog

Merged v4.9.184

Upstream AnyKernel3

Build with Clang 9.0.4

Download link in the OP.

Telegram group link
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] .:Addicted:.:
Hai, it's still missing Dynamic Schedtune Boost. Thats only thing I'm missing. Also exkernel manager not detecting boost settings, like sched tune boost.

Does klapse works together with kcal? I use kcal to set saturation lvl,color lvl, screen intensity.

Found klapse can be useful for night mode or something. Is that the intended use of klapse?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Yes KLAPSE work with kcal.

Dynamic schedtune boost is useless on Tissot.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] .:Addicted:.:
Hmm, why is that? Theoretically it should be better.

So whats wrong with tissot.

Here is a link for you to read.

https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/development/kernel-renderzenith-t3659850/page22

You can always keep it disabled by default you know.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Because msm8953 has homogeneous cores and no big.LITTLE , so it is useless on Tissot.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] .:Addicted:.:
Ohh ok, thanks for telling.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
LightningKernel-V2.4

Changelog

Merged v4.9.185

Merged latest CAF tag LA.UM.7.6.2.r1-09200-89xx.0

Upstream AnyKernel3

Merged LOS into Lightning

Implemented dynamic schedtune boost(disabled by default)

Should support xbox controllers now

Some vibration control driver fixes

Implemented Wireguard VPN support

Implemented Voltage Control

Optimize freq. voltages

Build with Clang 9.0.5

Download link in the OP.

Telegram group link
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] berezker:
Definitely one of the best kernels. Thank you very much for your contribution to the community
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] DustRaider8:
I was messing around with vibration levels and I checked "Override Vibration" which I'm not really sure what it does and now I've lost the haptic feedback vibration. For example when unlocking with fingerprint, the little vibration isn't there anymore no matter the ROM settings I've set. Basically all those small haptic feedback vibrations are gone and the phone is only vibrating for bigger vibrations like when I'm getting a call. I'm using Havoc OS and I did a dirty reflash but it was still not working even with stock Havoc OS moun kernel. Any ideas before I do a clean flash?

Edit: I'm a huge dumbass. Battery saver was on the whole time and I rarely use it so I forgot about it. Sorry for bothering.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] macielsevero19:
Great kernel

Thanks to the developer of this kernel project. I tested and there was a very significant gain in battery consumption. Performance is fine. Use in Wi-Fi, 4G, games, videos on YouTube, Social networks, etc. Remaining 2% of battery with 06:55 hours of active screen, 15:13 hours of idle screen. 22:11 hours since last full charge. With an average of 10.89% of consumption per hour in active screen and 1.45% in idle drain.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] manan001:
Request to add undervolte of cpu
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Already included from V1.0 , read OP.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zurik:
Just noticed that after some time, when I have increased the sound volume on kernel manager, it reset to default. Idk if it's kernel issue or kernel manager ones.

Using AOSP Gsi
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Speaker gain can't be increased.

Mic and headphone gain can be increased.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] Tarra Ista:
I tested it on nethunter yesterday

I followed the instructions you gave..!!

the result is same, wifi adapter card is not detected.

maybe there are other ways or fix this on kernel again..??

Please help me..!!!
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] zurik:
How to bypass the Android version check on anykernel to install this kernel to Android Q GSI?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
LightningKernel-V2.5

Changelog

Merged v4.9.186

Added Backlight Dimmer

Upstream AnyKernel3

Download link in the OP.

Telegram group link
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karthik km:
DTS X is working with this kernel?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
Only DTS Ultra works.

DTS hpx needs a hardware to work properly which Tissot doesn't have.
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] karthik km:
Thanks
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] langithitam:
Hy prorooter007,

i've using Lightning_Kernel_Treble_NonTreble-V2.5.zip on latest FW tissot_images_V10.0.10.0.PDHMIXM_9.0.

Clean install.

It gave me bug :

-can't connect wifi

-youtube doesnt display just sound

-MTP not working

does anyone have solution for this?
[Xiaomi Mi A1 ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other De] prorooter007:
What do you mean by "latest FW tissot_images_V10.0.10.0.PDHMIXM_9.0"??

If you mean stock rom then I already mentioned in the OP that IT IS ONLY FOR ROMS BASED ON 4.9 KERNEL (TREBLE AND NON TREBLE) , which clearly means not for stock rom.

Also no such issues which you mentioned on custom roms, everything is working fine.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] Bofahad:
How to Stop System ads? it's Keep showing every time & i want to stop it without rooting system ?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] kboya:
This isn't normal behaviour. You've installed a dodgy app.
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] RunNgun42:
This phone does not come with any system adds, you've accidentally installed some spyware. If you can think of a game or an app you downloaded recently uninstall it, otherwise start uninstalling everything or just downright wipe the entire phone
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] Bofahad:
Thank you :svetius:
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] NotFromMountainView:
This looks like a typical interstitial ad I get with within some (free) apps, are you saying you get this outside of any apps?
[Essential Phone Questions & Answers] Bofahad:
I got the app that showing this ads , it wasn't System ads
[Oukitel (All phone models)] SBAPKat:
Hey,

So I currently own an OUKITEL K10000Max with stock firmware running 7.0, rooted with magisk 18.1. My issue here is that Android keeps me at 100% battery for one entire day, and on the end of the following day I end up at ~50%. You guessed it, Android stays at 100% until ~4.12V on the battery, but it is actually full at 4.4V. I know batteries discharge are not linear, but this is quite extreme since we're talking about a 10Ah battery emptying in 3 days. What I would love to have is someone helping me point out the potential culprits for the wrong battery report.

Thank you for your time and patience,

SBAPKat
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] rewster36:
can anyone help? ive just brought a 2gb sd card and my o2 xda iis wont read it? is there a patch or software to help?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] krishan2207:
2gb cards are general ones any pda can read them if u r getting any problem try some other cards on ur pda, if they works repalce the 2gb asap.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] rewster36:
tried a 128mb card and it wont read that either...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] jdc:
Make sure the card isn't a SHDC-type of card (most likely not, but one never knows).

Does the phone even see the card, or does it just have problems reading it?

Tried reformatting it in the phone? A known issue is many programs on a stand alone computer will try to format SD cards as drives (floppy or otherwise), which is the wrong formatting for flash devices.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] rewster36:
no its not a shdc card.. ive no idea how to format the card in my phone ( a o2xdaiis), it shows the slot in use but no storage card
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] jdc:
Well, you can format it from your computer using a card reader and the flash formatter software from panasonic, or you can get an evaluation version of various different programs for the PPC platform that will do it as well.

Google for it, there are a lot of different ones and I've only ever used the panasonic software and a usb card reader.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] rewster36:
not hain any luck .. got a flash card programme but my xda wont read any memory cards at all