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[Android Apps and Games] Anatart:
Nice app! Just wondering if it's still useful on Android 11 given that when an app asks for permissions for the first time, the option states "allow only while using the app"? It's unclear to me if this option allows the app to continue using the permission even when the app is running in the background.
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Thanks!

While it's true that Android 11 allows permissions only "while using the app", it works only for location, microphone, and camera. Storage, calendar, contacts, sms, body sensors and phone are still given "once and forever". Maybe future versions of Android will restrict them, too, who knows.

Also, this app revokes and does not grant back permissions to apps unused in the past day by default (it can go from 2 hours to 3 days). Android 11 does something similar, but only after some months and only for apps targeting Android 11.

About permissions when the app runs in the background: if the app is somehow visible (e.g. it shows a notification) it still has the permission. Otherwise not. Permission Ruler has the same behavior.

To summarize, Android 11 restricts app permissions compared to previous versions and does so natively, but Permission Ruler restricts them even more.
[Android Apps and Games] Anatart:
Should all apps appear on the list or do some system/baked in apps not? Thanks again
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Only user apps appear in the list. But system apps appear in donate version.

Glad you got interested! :)
[Android Apps and Games] Anatart:
Should scheduled tasks still work with this app? For example an SMS Backup that writes to the external SD card at 3am each day while the phone screen is off?

No offense but I find the UI a bit hard to understand :LOL: The Sms Backup app is under the "managed apps" tab with all orange sliders checked.

What is the difference between the allow list and managed apps list? So if an app is under "managed" and it has it's e.g. location with switch orange, that means Privacy Ruler IS blocking the location when the phone is off?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
An Sms backup scheduled needs access to sms. When screen is off, it won't have it, so it will not work.

About the ui:

- Managed apps are the apps that get their permissions revoked when screen is off and granted when screen is on

- Allowlist is the list of apps that will not be touched. Their permissions will never be revoked.

- Sliders mean whether that permission is currently granted to that app or not

In your example with the Sms backup app, you want it in the allowlist (this is the general rule, but it's possible for a backup app with root to grant itself the needed permissions, so that would work even when the app is managed by Permission Ruler).

There is a "?" icon with the description of what is on the screen, but it seems that's not enough. I'm trying to find a way to make the UI somehow simpler.

Thanks for trying it, though!
[Android Apps and Games] ryuksniper:
i installed the beautiful app, but i have a problem with gboard, the keyboard becomes extremely slow, i am on One plus 5t with MSM Android 10 currently, how could I fix?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Can you try to put the gboard in the allowlist?

Please, tell me if it fixes the lags with the keyboard
[Android Apps and Games] ryuksniper:
I can't because it's a system application and I have the free version. I will try to take the donation so as to do some tests

edit: I have now taken the donation I'll let you know

edit2: yes with donation not lag :D nice app.

edit3: when i locked and unlocked after a while the problem came back :C
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
That's strange... normal version does not manage system applications, so it doesn't revoke anything from them...

Probably it's some of the other user apps you have that cause some issue.

Can you try to put some of them in the allowlist to check if things improve? Also, is the gboard slow everywhere or only on some specific apps?

(Thanks for trying the donate version. I won't get mad if you ask Play store a refund if it doesn't work as expected)
[Android Apps and Games] ryuksniper:
Hi, it goes slow everywhere, but it happens only after a while that the screen is block, I tried to put some apps inside the allowlist, but the problem remains, I don't know, does your app create some debugging? can we talk to each other on telegram? I saw that you are Italian so I also do some screenshots without writing too much on the post. If it suits you, write me your name in pm
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Ok, let's go on in private
[Android Apps and Games] Anatart:
I'm still a bit confused. If allowlist means the apps will not be restricted, why then does it have a number of allowed permission beneath each app? For example Facebook Messenger is under allowed list but it has "0/9 Permissions". Shouldn't it be 9/9? It may be because I haven't used the features in the app which require me to grant them e.g. never used the microphone

Also I'm confused by the legends. Why would something in the allowlist have a green check mark beside it? Isn't that a contradiction as allow means it's not managed and the check mark means it is?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
The number of allowed permissions in allowlist shows the permissions the app currently have (e.g. Messenger ask microphone permission to record voice notes). Permission Ruler will not change them automatically, but you can choose to grant or revoke them manually.

Regarding the check, yes you are right. It shouldn't appear in the allowlist. Will release a fix soon
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
New version released (1.5.52)

fixed apps with green checks mistakenly shown in allowlist

fixed custom protection mode on newer devices

few general ui fixes
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
@Anatart New version released. You should not see green check in allowlist anymore!

@ryuksniper You can now try with custom protection mode. For anything, you can pm me on Telegram

:)
[Android Apps and Games] Missmd1:
Thank you very much.
[Android Apps and Games] duven87:
Hi, I just installed the free version on my s4 mini Android 7.1.

Looks like works but I receive rare messages.

Like root not detected when Magisk Maneger gave permission to it and Out of Space to install PermissionRulerLayer.. I have a lot of space in intern and extern.
[Android Apps and Games] Anatart:
For example my SMS backup app is in the allow list, but has only 4/6 permissions. But it has a pause symbol beside it instead of yellow check mark. Shouldn't it be the yellow check mark because some of it's permissions are managed?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
I'm going to check it, thanks for telling me
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
It has a pause symbol because it's not managed. None of its permissions are managed when the app is in allowlist.

Manage a permission means that it gets revoked on screen off and granted back on screen on.

In allowlist all permissions of that app are simply ignored
[Android Apps and Games] VelvetB:
Hi,

I just upgraded to the donate version and now both versions are running. Is this normal or should I uninstall or stop the free version? It's on a Moto e6 rooted with magisk recovery.
[Android Apps and Games] VelvetB:
Never mind. I uninstalled the free version
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Hi!

Yes, you should stop and uninstall one and then start the other.

Sorry for the late reply. And thanks for downloading the donate version! :)
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
New version released (1.5.55)

few updates in internal methods to improve their stability

fixed rare issues on theme change

several graphical changes to make the app more modern:

- fixed size of elements

- removed top bar

- dark theme now uses green instead of blue, like the light theme

- bottom bar is now white/black

- few graphical simplifications
[Android Apps and Games] jimsters:
hi

i think i have a problem with this. but im not sure.

i have just installed lineage 18.1 on my galaxy s5 with the rom from here.

i have magisk installed, with it set to ask for root permissions.

when i installed permissions ruler, it didnt ask for root access, it just said it does not have it?

when i open up permission ruler, and have status running, v 1.5.55 says 'root not available' in red writing.

is this because its running lineage 18.1 and working fine?

is it to do with magisk?

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Hi,

That's strange.

Can you try to check if magisk manager has "deny" on Permission Ruler?

If it's "ask", when the app starts it should ask for root permission.

What happens if you grant root permissions directly from Magisk manager?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] jimsters:
im not 100% sure how to do that in magisk.

ive gone into the 2nd menu button at the bottom of magisk what looks like shield.

permission ruler had the greybar turned off here. i turned it on, restarted the phone and now it has root access

so it seems to be working.

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
That grey bar means root permissions are denied for that app.

If no bar was present for Permission Ruler, that would mean the app will ask for root.

Turning it on will grant root to that app.

It seems for some reason root was simply denied for the app.

Glad it's working for you. Hope you find it good :)
[Android Apps and Games] CarvedArt:
@sianos I seem to have an issue on A11 where when I add a music app to the Allowlist it still kills the permissions once the screen is turned off (as soon as the buffer empties). If I pause Permission Ruler the music continues to play. I haven't really tested whether anything other than music apps work when allowed. (Poweramp, Spotify, Pandora) Any guesses for me?
[Android Apps and Games] rodken:
Maybe, systemize which ever music app that you are using to see if the results repeat.
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Sorry for the late answer...

It shouldn't happen. The only thing I can think about is the music app depends on another app (like google play services or something else) which get its permissions removed, blocking the music app.

Can you try to enable Permission Ruler only on a few apps and allow everything else? Then slowly add all other apps until you find the guilty app.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stefano
[Android Apps and Games] Ozakong:
I want to remove the permission `MANAGE_DEBUGGING` from System Settings app, or from --user 0, Will the donated version will do it? because when I'm typing `pm revoke --user 0 com.android.settings android.permission.MANAGE_DEBUGGING` I got the message: `is not a changeable permission type`. If this app won't help, is there a way to revoke this permission somehow from Settings or from user 0?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
I'm not sure why you'd want to do this, since it would break adb and usb debug, from what I understood.

However, there are things that simply cannot be done, even if you have root permission, and changing this MANAGE_DEBUGGING permission is one of them.

The only way would be to create a custom rom allowing changing this permission.

You may also try with xposed, but I'm not sure you'll find anything there
[Android Apps and Games] Ozakong:
What about android.permission.TETHER_PRIVILEGED?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Neither.

You can check at https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission for permissions with protection level "dangerous". These are the permissions managed by Permission Ruler, with the only expection of SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW, and are the ones you're asked to grant.

"normal" permissions are granted automatically, while "signature" is granted to system apps and "privileged" to privileged apps.

You can try to run pm grant/revoke commands on other permissions, but if you receive the error "is not a changeable permission type" it means it cannot be changed in any way (unless custom roms or maybe xposed)
[Android Apps and Games] LotusMidnight:
I'm haven't an issue with the app, when viewing "Apps" within permission ruler it says "Allowlist (10)" yet it only displays 2 apps (magisk and adaway) why is it saying 10 if only these 2 are visible? Is this an indication something is wrong?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
mmm... that's weird

So you see 2 apps after clicking on "Allowlist"?

Or you see 2 apps and on the top there is "Managed Apps (2)" and "Allowlist (10)"?
[Android Apps and Games] LotusMidnight:
I see 2 apps within the allow list tab and at the top it says "allowlist 10" but I only see 2 apps

Update: I've installed new apps since then, The allowlist now says "Allowlist 16" but only shows 5 apps, do I have a virus or something?
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
No, i don't think so.

More probably is a bug in the allowlist count...

If you check the "0" between the managed apps and allowlist (to hide the apps without any dangerous permissions required), is the updated number correct?

I'll check the count anyway, probably something screwed there
[Android Apps and Games] LotusMidnight:
After clicking the 0 the number is correct, though it does end up hiding all root access apps as well
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Ok then it's just an error in counting the apps

will update it, thanks for the feedback!
[Android Apps and Games] LotusMidnight:
Thanks for the help, Really appreciate it!
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
Hi,

I updated the app (should be out soon). Can you check it again and let me know?

There really was an error in counting the apps that should have been fixed.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] sianos:
New version released (1.6.02)

Improved support across all Android versions

Added Nearby Devices permissions for Android 12

Fixed count of whitelisted apps
[Android Apps and Games] Ashieboy™:
Doesn't work on Magisk and Pixel 6 Pro
[Android Apps and Games] trevtdogg:
this app looks great! trying it out now, the free version on moto edge 20 fusion w/ root access.

2 suggestions:

- would it be possible to have an option for certain selected apps to only get back permissions when the app is eventually next launched? rather than when the screen is next unlocked.

- can the custom 'manage time' have an extension option to 'forever' setting? meaning that all apps will get their permissions back no matter how long since they were last used?

ideally, i'm thinking it would be good to have all the permissions for all apps set up how you like them, no matter how rarely you use the app. but for selected apps to only get those permissions while the app is in use. sort of like how location permissions are handled now by android system, only allowed while the app is in use. i'm guessing this could be implemented by either applying it to apps on the current whitelist as an extra feature, or as a separate list for denying permissions while the screen is on but the app isn't in use.
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[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] cra5how:
My GPS and Location service is not working indoors. When using Google Maps inside our office it cannot detect my location. Outdoors it is working but very weak. Is this also an issue with others or is this an isolated case for me? Thanks in advance for the replies.
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] batuken:
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Might be a software issue. China ROM here.
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] Streetrayzer:
For me it works very well. Open GoogleMaps and about 2-5 sec. it shows my location (indoors and outdoors). Global ROM in europe
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] cra5how:
[MENTION=5338993]batuken[/MENTION] [MENTION=6126631]Streetrayzer[/MENTION]

I have the China ROM version so maybe this is a software issue. Thank you for your replies.
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] Phucduc6789:
Mine is too. While Bs1 & Helo China Rom are very Quick & strong Gps,but Bs2 china Joyui rom Gps Very weak @@

Update : Reboot bs2 , it will back Strong Gps , very good.
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] weissdrak:
Mine works fairly well. CN rom.
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] Phucduc6789:
Oh you only need to reboot it once , it will come back Strong gps :))) i try.
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] acertor:
Enable google service

Enable google service (Get location info)

www youtube.com/watch?v=VWvZRYSpTAw
[Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Questions & Answers] teokrasi:
Its works thanks (solved)
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] -=knop=-:
guys please suggest a guide to use

phone was with custom firmware, twrp recovery, data encrypted with stock encryptor

only thing i did was to change a broken screen at repairs center

now it is in bootloop

i can get to download mode and to recovery (screens attached) but cant get a hold of device in download mode via fastboot (it hangs with waiting for device) although driver is installed and windows recognizes the phone

please advise
[HTC U11  Questions & Answers] Snah001:
Try to flash a latest ruu, not older than the version you have now.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC U11 met Tapatalk
[Huawei MediaPad M5  Questions & Answers] trlopes1974:
Hi.

After initial usage (tablet reset), chrome and other applications are always maximized (instead of windowed) in desktop/pc mode.

I have not made anything for this to happen and this is anoying me deeply. And I don't know what is causing this issue. These application where working windowed in desktop mode (for instance Clash of Clans game) and now (after reboot) it is always in fullscreen (it still has the taskbar). Also, chrome lost te "unmaximize" window button, it only has maximize and minimize buttons.

Anyone else has this problem ? Any fixes or way to customize these settings? attaching a working example. Now the app is always maximized.

View attachment 4754785
[Huawei MediaPad M5  Questions & Answers] Deleted member 7257971:
Looks like you still on Oreo, try updating to Pie as Desktop mode got a lot of fixes in Pie
[Huawei MediaPad M5  Questions & Answers] trlopes1974:
Update is not yet available in my country.

Wonder wy this is happening. Why does it work once and then stops...
[Samsung Galaxy S9  Questions & Answers] kapazo:
Hello , is there any way to bypass the video recroding time limitation of 4 minutres for 4k and 10 minutes for 1080 60fps video ? Is there any ROM supporting it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MrCreel:
Hi guys, i just want to know what software you are using to make your kaiser look like a iphone,

I use: Freestyl, S2V, S2P, S2U2, Ifonz.

What do you use`?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
I use SEARCHto find my answers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Boinng:
Like most users, I use nothing to make my kaiser look like an iphone :)

I tried out Slide2unlock purely for it's locking abilities, and had to take it off because of the irritating fake interface, trying to pretend to be something it's not - yuk. Give me honest old Winmo anytime.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
You must be a carpenter, you lined that nail up and hit it right on the head!!!

It's like once a week some n00b posts a redundant thread about the iphone, if they search they can find plenty of answers.

If you like the iphone THEN BUY ONE.

Im sure i just opened a bag of worms, and by the end of they day, there will be tons of replies about how nice the GUI is and everything else these trendy tree hugging iphone lovers can think of to defend their theory.

Fact is the iphone sucks (and thats a fact)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dredd67:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP.../wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/iphone/iphone
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] j1ngles:
Anti Apple fanboys!

I think some of the comments from the antiapple fanboys are a little harsh. The fact is the guy has bought a Kaiser and likes the look of the iphone, so to him he's probably got the best of both worlds. I think everyone who immediately slags the iphone isn't seeing the full picture. It may have its faults with office syncing, no ability to configure etc.. but it is undoubtedly a thing of beauty with an interface that is ahead of it's time.

It amazes me that with all the hacking and modding going on in this forum that as soon as the dreaded "iphone" word is used all the antiappleheads race to be the first to flame the originator.

I would have given serious consideration to the iphone if it had the same functionality as the Kaiser but we all make choices. I for one think if people want to dress their Kaisers up as an iphone then fair play. I don't imagine anyone here with be giving the developer of slide2unlock a hard time for his app.

I'll wait for the inevitable backlash, yawn!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] denco7:
Yeah, Hi Guys,

I have an iPhone that I paid $499 for. Is there any software I can spend lots of money on to make it look like a Windows Mobile device. I could have bought a Tilt for the same money, but why , when I can just buy an Iphone and make it look like a Kaiser. Your help is appreciated Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
Hey if he used THE SEARCH TOOL He would have found the answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Dredd67:
My wife's got an iPhone. Cool device indeed. So cool that I find it ridiculous to try to copy it's interface to our Kaiser. The Kaiser's simply not meant to be used like an iphone.

There's 2 different philosophy behind, it's like trying to adapt 7 seats cause you like space in a Mini or a Smart cause you like tiny little cars.

BUT using good ideas from the iphone that obviously can be adapted and adds value to the Kaiser is a good idea. I think that's exactly what HTC has done with the Diamond.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KD8DNS:
You sir are funny.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] j1ngles:
Really worthwhile replies from "senior" member KD8DNS. Just so everyone can rest easy tonight

KD8DNS uses the search tool

I'd probably have a couple of hundred posts by now posting that crap