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[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] HTC55555:
Pixel 3a stock build PD2A.190115.032

Over 49 hours unplugged ended up with 8 SOT ?

Display Always On set to OFF

Display New Notifications ON

Display Adaptive Brightness ON

I had it on auto the entire time

Wellbeing ON

Adaptive battery ON

Can't say enough how impressed I am with this phone!!!
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Chronzy:
Sorry, didn't see this, been on vacation and pretty busy. The pixel 3 battery has gone downhill over the last year to my disappointment. The s10e is noticably better than the P3, but the 3a is a clear battery champ. I'll take the slight step down in performance because this battery life is sexy. Out of all 3 phones, the 3a is easily the one I'd recommend to anyone.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Valeriuz:
Do you miss something from the Pixel 3?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] totib38:
Hello guys,

Have a good screen on time does not necessarily mean you will have a good battery life for a real day usage.

How is the stand by time for this device ? And do you think it's possible to have more than a day of battery life with a moderate usage ?

The 3a xl has an incredible battery life (almost 2 days) but I'm little septic with the regular pixel 3a.

???
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I'm always kind of amazed of how these battery threads take on a life. I'm all for great battery life but with fast charging and the ubiquitous cables and chargers (including car chargers) out there how hard is it really to get a quick charge during the day or when you come home at night? SOT depends on what you are doing during screen on. Browsing is one thing, YT and video playback quite another. How can you compare and what would it mean anyway? Every phone can get through a day with light, moderate and even heavy use. There are exceptions of course but not many. Put a USB cable in your backpack or pocket and don't sweat it. The camera and performance on the Pixels is worth it.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
Dude, check the screenshots. Standby drain has consistently been less than 1% for me. 2 days with moderate use is easy.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] totib38:
Thank for your return.

I'm actually have 2 chooses :

- take a pixel 3a with 64go for 400 €.

- take a pixel 3 with 128go also for 400€.

My critical point is battery life and I guess pixel 3a will be better on this point.

On the other hand, the possibility to have a premium pixel phone is more tempting.

The dragontrail glass on pixel 3a seem more fragile on what I read.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
From what I've read, battery life on 3a is better. Everything else would favor the regular 3.

As far as glass goes, it's glass if you drop it and it hits wrong it will break. I think any evidence of dragontrail glass being more susceptible to damage than gorilla would be pure conjecture at this point. Take it with a grain of salt.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] HTC55555:
2 days easy for sure!!!

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Might read this

The Verge · 1 day ago

Google’s $399 Pixel 3A is stronger than its price tag suggests
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] optionalmgrr.la:
how come 3a has so much better battery life than 3??

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where can you buy pixel 3 128gb for 400Eur??
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] ShinXD:
For me the pixel 3a is a huge upgrade and I do not see half of the justifiable complaints because Im coming from an asus zenfone 2. Everything across the board is better. camera, screen, build. I personally dont like some of the software choices they've made (i.e. the multitask gesture and the iphone like layout.) I do wish it had expandable memory because its my second or third day with it and ive already used 30gb after transferring from my old phone. My battery life has been pretty decent. Though I do charge whenever i can just to see 100. I hope the pixel's fast charging doesnt make it decay like the zenfone did because the battery literally died on that one. I hope that the pixel 4a in the future comes with a snapdragon 710 (or sim) and 3200 mah for battery. overall im over the moon with the pixel.

(p.s does anyone know a good tempered glass screen protector cause from the reviews ive read most of them are trash and the one i have is missing 3mm of glass real estate. )
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] totib38:
I'm in France and I negotiate with a guy who selling it.

This was a gift but I don't use it
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
Tests are reporting that dragon tail glass is just a different name for gorilla glass. It's the same product from another brand basically.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] yabadabadooo:
It's because the Snapdragon 670 is weaker and not so battery hungry like the Snapdragon 845 that is bulid in the Pixel 3.

So the p3 has a better performance but a weaker battery life
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Valeriuz:
Mid range processors are actually the best for efficiency. Indeed, in this phone the performance are restricted not by the processor but the emmc memories.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
I don't think the 3a has "much better battery life" at all. The battery is bigger in the 3a but not by much. I have both and use them similarly and battery life and standby drain are almost equal. Performance is comparable (not equal) but obviously there are some other differences such as wireless charging and waterproofing.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] yabadabadooo:
Yea ofc 85mah... mate that's nothing.

A better processor has a higher battery drain. That's it.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dj-alejandro34:
Hi guys, I just bought a oneplus 6t and I admit to not being super excited by its big size (I had an Galaxy S8before) other than that, it is hyper responsive and fluid. Do you think that with this pixel 3a I will lose a lot of fluency knowing that I do not play games (only use web, mail, calls, message, GPS navigation) and will I gain in photo quality (I use GCAM on the oneplus) and battery life ?... The compact size of the pixel 3a I like more for one-handed use.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
I would say if those are the activities you are most often performing, I highly recommend this device. I had a OnePlus 6 but never used them side by side to compare fluidity but the pixel seems fluid to me.

I know some people seem to be very sensitive to "microlag" which I never understood. Use a phone from 4 years ago for a week and see if you notice any lag on any current phone, wimps.

Camera takes DSLR level shots and night sight is amazing.

The size of the device definitely called to me as well. I love being able to manage my phone with one hand again! I pick up my wife's 2xl and it feels huge and heavy.

I say go for it.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dj-alejandro34:
Thank you for the answer. I'm waiting to see how I handle the 6T this week and go to a friend who receives his pixel 3a Monday to really realize his behavior and his opinion. But just by its size and its photo qualities I think I'll easily switch to the pixel 3a :D

And what about battery life in comparison ?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
I'm coming from a op6 and I was tired of tinkering with gcam and flashing weird tweaks with doubtful impact.

I don't notice any difference on term of fluidity, camera just works and is amazing, love the overall stock experience. This is Android how it's meant to be, nothing more, nothing else.

Battery life is superior in my case (approximately 5-6h sot on average).

And it's true that the haptic motor is far better, it's the first time I actually keep some haptic feedback.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dj-alejandro34:
Thanks a lot for the answer.

Does he have dark mode too ?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
For now the dark mode does not really exist except in z few apps (still don't understand how hard it can be to create a dark mode in Android stock...) but in Android q it should be better. Unfortunately it's not like oos dark mode :(
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dj-alejandro34:
Thanks dude. I have just ordered it and I will see on a daily basis which one suits me best.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] mjs2011:
It's actually not hard at all. [emoji4][emoji6]

It's in the Android Q Beta which will be available for the Pixel 3a most likely next week.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] optionalmgrr.la:
Thanks I'm interested in 3 if the price comes down
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
It's $599 now plus some money off for an eligible trade in. It won't go lower than that until the P4 launches. What were you hoping for?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] c_tho:
late response but i was coming from the xperia xz1 compact which was *insanely* fast (snapdragon 835 + 720p screen) and had concerns about this. i only notice a difference occasionally when switching between apps very rapidly, there'll be a slight bit of jankiness in the transition. never makes a difference to actual performance. functionally, for me, there has been absolutely no difference and i couldn't be happier with the phone.

battery-wise, for me it seems about on par with the xz1c, i.e. really, really great. with normal use for me i can get away with charging every second day, and the packaged fast charger means i only really charge it at work.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
I disabled all usage accesses in the settings (not just for digital wellbeing but for all apps) and it seems to increase battery life quite significantly. Overnight on wifi I got only 2% drop, which is amazing.

Will see over the next few days how sot is affected.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] SRun:
I am losing 10% battery in just 4 hours with the screen off

That doesn't seem right, is there something wrong with my device

I have aod off and digital wellbeing off
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
It's rarely due to the device itself, an app must be stuck, did you try rebooting and see if it persists?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] SRun:
I will reboot and see its fine after but how can I find out with app is stuck
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] SRun:
I haven't got root on my pixel 3a and would have to use a computer to get better battery stats to work
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
You can check in the permissions and different accesses of your apps.

I restrict 80% of the apps of background battery and data usage.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Obviously you don't need root and I think you can get it to work with a terminal emulator. It's easier on a computer however. Can't you borrow one?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] totib38:
Hello,

How is your battery life since the June update ?

Did you notice change with the OTA ?

Thanks
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Gugus38:
No impact noticed here.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dschneiderch:
i just got an xz2 compact and haven't been impressed with the battery. mostly got it over the 3a due to size. thanks for the comparison to the xz1 compact. doesn't sound like i'd gain much if i switched ( i still have a week to return ). do you have any additional thoughts between the two phones?

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i just got an xz2 compact and haven't been impressed with the battery. honestly its barely better than my 3 yr old iphone se that i replaced. mostly got it over the 3a due to size. thanks for the comparison to the xz1 compact. doesn't sound like i'd gain much if i switched ( i still have a week to return ). [MENTION=4917204]c_tho[/MENTION] do you have any additional thoughts between the two phones?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] xxBrun0xx:
I think a big part of what people who've never used a phone with a Snapdragon 6xx series phone are afraid of is "performance". Yes, it's a quarter second longer to load apps. But the VAST majority of time spent using your phone is in apps, not opening them. The trade off is way better battery life, which makes a huge difference. A lot of folks in here are selling their pixel 3/xl and pixel 2/xl just for the better battery life. It really is amazing. Takes a few days for the battery to break in (and probably for doze to learn your habits), but it's impressive that you can get a phone this fast with this good of a camera, screen, speakers, small form factor, and battery life for so cheap.

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I think a big part of what people who've never used a phone with a Snapdragon 6xx series phone are afraid of is "performance". Yes, it's a quarter second longer to load apps. But the VAST majority of time spent using your phone is in apps, not opening them. The trade off is way better battery life, which makes a huge difference. A lot of folks in here are selling their pixel 3/xl and pixel 2/xl just for the better battery life. It really is amazing. Takes a few days for the battery to break in (and probably for doze to learn your habits), but it's impressive that you can get a phone this fast with this good of a camera, screen, speakers, small form factor, and battery life for so cheap.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] c_tho:
honestly i was tossing up between the xz2c and the 3a, with the 3a winning out due to price and camera. sounds like i dodged a bullet tho cos i have very little patience for lousy battery life.

re: the difference between the two phones, my biggest concern was the size. i have been whining about giant phones for years now and always said i'd never get something with screen > 5 inches. but with options running out i took a bit of a gamble and am honestly so surprised at how much of a non-issue it is. i have pretty big hands so i can still use it one-handed without much trouble. few other pointers:

- the whole camera/picture experience is just so, so much better on the pixel, including the camera quality, the camera app and the way it integrates with photos. thought i would miss not having a dedicated local gallery app but i absolutely do not.

- audio quality on the 3a is a step down from the xperia i'd say, and there is no built in eq or audio effects, so the options are to root and install viper or errrr use the built in spotify eq i guess?

- the xz series displays were very good for lcds but i still feel like the oled panel on the 3a is a big step up, i especially love the always-on display.

- battery life really is fantastic.

that's all i got, my main point would probably be don't be put off by the size because you get used to it VERY quickly BUT the xz2c seems like a fantastic phone too so up to you really.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dschneiderch:
first, [MENTION=4917204]c_tho[/MENTION] thanks for the comparison! you are really making me second guess my decision though because i'm not sure I will notice the audio quality difference. i'm usually streaming music or listening to a podcast and 75% of the time its over my chromecast/airplay speaker, 25% in the car, <1% headphones. i use often use headphones for talking though. However I have always wished there was a way to change the eq for podcasts to remove low frequencies and increase voice clarity compared to standard music listening. So maybe the eq will be useful. I didn't even know it was a feature. :good:

camera was definitely a big driver in narrowing down the selection and i was under the impression the sony camera is pretty good (although not quite industry leading pixel good). ive actually been using google photos on my iphone for a couple years now as the default app so that's not an issue for me.

The other consideration I had for the sony was the IP68 rating. I take it outdoors a lot skiing, running, biking etc although I find it hard to believe that the 3a is significantly less water/dust resistant and it came down to not paying for the cert.

also battery may be better then i implied the first time. about 3% drain overnight on wifi/lte and no ambient display. i was probably just futzing and configuring too much because yesterday i had closer to normal usage and i came home with 86%. i could get 2 days, maybe more.

sidenote- i had a weird vibration/rattle in the earpiece speaker at low frequencies (male voice frequencies) so now i'm on my second xz2c already

:confused:
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bejunk:
I see 9hrs SOT, i present you 10+hrs SOT!

Title says it all :D Im very happy with the battery on this phone. Could gave reached 11hrs, but needed to juice it up as i went out...

Also i doesnt loose much battery overnight which is nice. Very impressed with this phone, made the right choice:good:
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] shinzon76:
Nearly 10 hours screen on time with stock kernel and no battery management apps. Amazing. Best battery life I've had since the dumb phone days.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] LGGuy83:
How much battery are you losing overnight? I'll only lose 3% if I put the phone in airplane mode/battery saver mode with wifi/data off, but if I keep wifi on I lose about 10%.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bejunk:
Idk exactly, but its below 10% for sure, maybe 3-5% but i leave my phine as it is, connected to wifi and activate DND. I think also it depends a bit on your router when wifi is still on, that's my experience. On Q the wifi requests are also lowered much, but dint know if it's already baked in to the router. Will report tomorrow the exact %
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Drakax:
I've just got my brand new 3a yesterday, I charged it during the night and today I had to recharge it at the end of the afternoon.

Just listening Spotify and installing some apps and testing the camera (20-30 pics), no play, no YouTube or watching movie.

So when I read some of you I'm wondering what's wrong with mine :D

In battery settings I can't see the apps usage details, is it normal?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
It's normal. Your phone is brand new. Give it a few days and all the stuff running in the background should slow down and battery should be good. Also, your usage will take some time to populate as well.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
I switched over to beta 4. Idle drain sucks! 1.74% an hour! Anyone else experiencing this?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Drakax:
On Pie, stock but root and only listening Spotify right now, nothing else opened in the background, look at the active drain:
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
You just rebooted. Give it some time. On pie my idle drain was about 1% lower at 0.79% on average.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Drakax:
Turned it off, booted it up, airplane mode and "do not disturb" activated, no apps in the background:
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] jmtjr278:
I would install bbs and find out what's up. Something is definitely wrong here.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Uzephi:
Got it Saturday and this is what Accubattery says is my average usage report. Really nice!
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] c_tho:
late response and last i'll say on this but for me the xz1c camera was squarely average, not catastrophic (as some people made out) but not "good" but everything i read suggests that the xz2c camera was a big upgrade from the xz1c so yeah that definitely adds up.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] dollarpapa:
I would make a backup, then wipe the phone and without restoring anything just run the phone as new and minimal apps and see how it does without restored data. Just to close out hardware issues.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] sic0048:
I have the "always on display" turned on, but when I go to bed I lay my phone face down which turns the screen off. I also have mobile data turned off (it's off anytime I'm connected to my home's wifi) and I have DND mode automatically turned on from 11pm to 7am. Everything else is turned on (wi-fi, bluetooth - which stays connected to my smart watch, "now playing" music notifications, etc). I also am running the ExperimentalX Kernel (version 1.02) but have all the settings at default. I have not tried to "tune" the kernel at all. With these settings I lose about 2-3% battery life over the 7-8 hours at night.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] LGGuy83:
Thanks for the info. I've been fooling around with my settings. I think the battery culprit may be leaving "OK Google" voice detection on. I turned it off last night, and only lost 3% overnight, without using battery saver. This is on stock everything, no root.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] ccook18:
Have had my Pixel 3a for a few weeks. Definitely enjoy using this device. Battery life is a lot better than my old Moto g6. Getting an average of about 7.5-8.5 hours of sot. The best I have got was just over 10 hours. Compared to the Moto g6, where i was getting around a an average of 6.5 hours.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] BearOfXDA:
Should I give my Pixel some time to settle in or something? I have 31% left and 3 1/2 hours SOT. I do use heavy apps like Snapchat and Reddit a lot but that's about it
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] HTC55555:
I'd say yes for sure. Not sure how long you've had it but that sounds like a first or second battery charge to me.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] sic0048:
Battery life is impossible to predict between different users. Cell reception is a huge difference and a detail that most people don't think about (or even really have a way to track). Add to that screen brightness, apps and widgets being used, etc and there are just too many variables to worry about.

So while I totally understand trying to wring out as much screen life as possible, I also never try to compare my screen time with others because we can never compare similar experiences.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] Chronzy:
Is it just me or has battery life fell off a bit since July?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] A-FrenZy:
Is this wakelock normal ?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] guitarsmurf2501:
Yes, I'm on Q beta 5 (July security update) and battery life is noticeably less than Q beta 4. I used to get around 6 - 6.5 hours of SOT, and now around 4 - 4.5 hours. Still enough for me, but there's certainly a difference.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] bobby janow:
Yes it is. 0.5 % idle drain is about the best you can do. Those wakelocks have been around forever.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] qki:
I have my Pixel 3A since yesterday and for now my SOT is ONLY 2h and last charge was 24h ago. What is wrong? AOD, what's playin, WLAN is on and i do not even use phone. Strange that i lost 2% in 6 minutes after disconnect power adapter and i do nothing. For now battery is very bad :( when i see that you have 5h SOT?! How is it possible?
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] karimski75:
Give the system some time to settle.
[Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion] danielramos:
I am waiting to receive my pixel 3a and I want to take care of it, can someone advise me about the battery? do they charge 100? All night long?