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[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Aurgelme:
I'm happy! Thank you
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Multispace67:
To Michael "k1eane":

I installed the recorder version you posted here:

https://xdaforums.com/t/call-recorder-for-all-huawei-model-android-pie.3926346/post-84200707

Could you kindly answer to my questions above about permission the app needs?

Thank you

Forgot to mention that I'm on p30 pro
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shashank1320:
I am using this and everything is working as expected
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GeorgeNV:
I have done all these steps on my Mate 20 Pro 10.1.0.325 (C636E8R3P4), this is a DUAL SIM version.

When I dial a number, I get the following message at the bottom of the screen:

"Memory Card Error. Recording saved to: /storage/emulated/0/Sounds/CallRecord/{XXX filename} ". However, I can't find any new recording there, only the old ones before the call recorder stopped working.

Any idea how to fix this?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Michael "k1eane":
I'm not sure, maybe it won't help! The fact is that I use a memory card and in my memory I have a "default save location" installed just a memory card. I just switched to internal memory, rebooted the phone and pulled out the call recording apk. Try to install it. Other possible reasons why you get this error in my head does not spin.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GeorgeNV:
Thanks for your quick reply. Can you please help me find the "default save location" setting?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Michael "k1eane":
Go to settings - memory. At the very bottom there will be an item "Default save location" and there you can select "Memory card" or "Internal memory". I just don't remember whether this item is available or not if the memory card is not installed.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] GeorgeNV:
Unfortunately I don't have Settings - Memory, and such, no "Default save location" either.

Can I ask someone with a DUAL SIM Mate 20 Pro and successfully reestablished Call recording functionality to chime in, and let me know the trick?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] arifbanochi:
I need call recorder foe emui 11 Huawei p40 pro plus
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Michael "k1eane":
Many people need it! Here it remains to wait when someone using a phone with the Indian region (on firmware EMUI 11) uploads an apk file.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] arifbanochi:
Have call recorder for EMUI 11.0 Huawei P40 Pro plus?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Michael "k1eane":
What language should you write in?

There are no call recorder for EMUI 11 at the moment!

It is necessary to wait for the official release of EMUI 11 in the Indian region (C675). And if China does not come up with anything new ... we can post a call recorder for EMUI 11 here.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] christoferos:
I heard, that Call Recorder for Android 10, will work on Android 11, but after update, you can't do factory reset.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] newbie_vlc:
Good morning, a easy question.

¿Where are stored recorded calls with Emui 10 and later versions?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Memory - Sounds - CallRecord
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] CraigStod:
I've tried to download Call Recorder for EMUI 10.1 but nothing happens.

The only recorder I have on my phone is the inbuilt app. (I think, the app icon isn't green anyway).

It's a Huawei P30 Pro.

Please help!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Elvisnazareth:
If you have the in built call recording app and if it's working you don't need to download any app.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] CraigStod:
I've worked it out! So relieved. Sorry for pestering people on here, but I've got there in the end. Very pleased, and thank you to the person who put the download on here.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Elvisnazareth:
Guys any news whether call recording is working on these p30s or any phone who got the emui 11 update? Is recording still working.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
After update from 10.1 to 11 - still working. After factory reset - no.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shashank1320:
It will work until a factory reset is done.

Once we have some ported apk from compatible model on emui 11 (may be Chinese version), things will be easier but not so soon.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Nope. India is most useful, not China.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shashank1320:
I mean from Chinese version, not sure if india version has it already or removed, thats the case most of the time.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Chinese version has it but is not useful.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Michael "k1eane":
It makes sense to pull out the call record only from the version for the Indian region. Only from there, call recording can be installed on a smartphone with a different region.

From the version with the Chinese region, it will not work to record calls to another region.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Call record app from Chinese version doesn't install ;)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] sdbg:
Hello guys!

get worked at my huawei view 30 pro almost well.

cant manage to force call recorder show play button in calls list.

at my old honor 10 was so

Spoiler content hidden.

and at my honor view 30 pro where call recorder works well - there is no play button so manage to find record and play it till recorder by hand is UGLY

Spoiler content hidden.

any solution?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Contacts app must have access to Storage (or whatever it calls in English :)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Indi k:
So after much searching... Call recorder file on here works perfectly on P30. V 10.1. 071

As others have pointed out won't work on 10.0.. (tried)

So updated to the above (must have sim card in phone to update).

Happy days!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Call Record App fot EMUI 11 can be taken up there: HwCallRecorder 11.0.0.109.apk (see post above)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
Thanks but the file has been removed. Anyone download it and can share?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Nope. File still exist. Direct link: {Mod edit: Link removed}
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Multispace67:
Sorry but the file seems still missing...
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali-4:
apk file:

HwCallRecorder 11.0.0.109.apk

drive.google.com
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Multispace67:
Thanks a lot!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Here you go, boyz'n'galz:
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
This file has 25 permissions and the 10.1 call recorder has 4 permissions. Something is not right.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ali-4:
I will not agree. There are as many permissions as in 10.1.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Oops! ;)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
10.1 uses only 4 permissions.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Doom Scythe:
Just want to say a big thank you on this. My call recorder stopped working for half a year, and now it is back up. I am going to wait a bit till others confirmed that Call Recorder works on EMUI 11 before updating it. Am on Mate 20 X.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
There is difference between Requested Permissions and (Granted) Permissions.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Mozarkany:
I need to know how to uninstall it
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Mozarkany:
i need to uninstall it and i cant find the app anywhere on the phone :(
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] -Alf-:
Look here
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] georg3003:
Hi there,

Is this app also working on a p30pro emui11.0.0.138?

Thanks for your feedback.

George
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Bob24601:
So is this latest version safe?

I have a Mate 20 Pro, currently running on 10.0.

Ive kept having notifications to upgrade to 10.1. 0.270, but delayed it as not sure if the call recorder will work.

I'm not sure if there are further updates after 10.2.0.270 that will be available to me once I upgrade.

But what is the process to install this new version and update?

Do I uninstall the old version, upgrade my phone and then install the latest version of call recorder?

Or do I need to install this before I upgrade?

I don't want to mess up my phone or even have the hassle of trying to downgrade again, or even lose this functionality, so help appreciated.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Yes, there are different apks for EMUI 10 and EMUI 10.1, so uninstall old version and install new one after upgrade.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] georg3003:
I can confirm I can install 11.0.0.109.apk on build 11.0.0.138 emui 11.0.0

App is recording and recordings are stored in known dir. If you have an External storage, it will be stored on External memory it seems.

There is only on problem left, in my case I do not have access to the records from within the app. That means no direct playback from phone app.

Has somebody an idea why not?

Is it because recordings are not in internal memory?

By the way, all permissions are set and allowed.

Thanks

Regards

George

P. S. My phone is P30 pro256gb (II ed) with 128gb card
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
App Contacts must have access to Memory/Storage/whatever.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hajj_3:
has anyone tried if this is working with EMUI 11.0.0.153?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Multispace67:
Hi, on my p30 pro with 11.0.0.153 it is working
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] samvel2001:
I extracted from Huawei mate 30 pro 5g 11.0.0.180 here is the link

Google Drive: Sign-in

Access Google Drive with a Google account (for personal use) or Google Workspace account (for business use).

drive.google.com
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hydargos:
Thanks (y) Merci beaucoup ca fonctionne
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Gippy123:
I installed 11.0.0.109.apk on my P30 on build 11.0.0.156 and Emui 11.0.0. It records, but the volume is very low. Anyone has the same problem?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Check your mics first. ;) Everything records fine - EMUI 11/Mate 20 Pro.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Gippy123:
I managed to solve the problem. It was conflicting with another call registration app.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] sabirwest:
11.0.0.159 ?! anyone has the working app
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] sabirwest:
cant download >!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Yes: https://xdaforums.com/t/call-recorder-for-all-huawei-model-android-pie.3926346/post-84640165
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
UPDATED! Official Call Recorder for EMUI 10.0, 10.1 and 11.0.

UPDATE: New link for EMUI 11 call recorder added. Great for Mate 40 Pro owners. So sadly the official Huawei Call Recorder app no longer worked if you upgraded to 10.1. It only worked under 9.0 and if you upgraded to 10.0. Over on XDA there is a

consumer.huawei.com

All the working official call recorders for all EMUI versions.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Second link isn't clickable. Verrrry convenient, just verry.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] tboy2000:
Just copy and paste it. It's Huawei forum servers that don't make short URLs live links.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Instead of click and download (i mean smartphone, not computer).

Besides, only middle link causes trouble.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LostEchoes:
Good news. The call recorder app seems to be working fine on EMUI 12.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qz3mw0
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Cannot see the proof.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LostEchoes:
You mean you cannot view the Reddit post above? Or that you don't believe the guy that tried and confirmed it ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
You should quote a bit more accurate. I saw screenshot but there was no idea that it is a link.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LostEchoes:
LMAO
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Laughing w\o cause.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LostEchoes:
Here is a free tip for you:

When you post a link to Reddit topics, a preview is being generated. This preview includes links to that topic. It is not any kind of quote, or screenshot, or a picture or anything else. All you have to do is click on the title of that topic preview.

You are welcome.

So, next time you are confused, you make a mistake or you fail to understand something, all you have to do is ask nicely. Being rude and passive - aggressive won't get you anywhere.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BloodyRoar3:
Hello, there is already a call recorder for the Honor 50 Magic 4.2 !? Unfortunately, this version does not work here. Thanks in advance.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Grumpy Cat:
Those permissions seem a bit abusive. Does anyone know if there is any malware spyware in those apps? Or does anyone know how to disable permissions? Or maybe even a modified version would be better.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Checked by KAV. None.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] denzel09:
Hi, sorry for question: is this 11.0.0.109 last working version on emui 11 for our mate 20 pro?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LostEchoes:
It's the latest call recorder apk that seems to work on all Huawei devices with EMUI 11.x (I have it on my P30).
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] denzel09:
In your opinion it will work also on emui 12 when we will have the update next year? Or we will have a new version?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] LostEchoes:
A few people have confirmed that it works fine on Huawei Nova with EMUI 12.

Now, Nova comes with Android 11 - based EMUI 12, while the new EMUI 12 beta version that has started being pushed to old devices, is based still on Android 10. Considering that EMUI 11 is also based on Android 10, I see no reason for this .apk not to work on Android 10-based EMUI 12 (beta or stable).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/qz3mw0
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] badboyne:
Good evening. I really need hwcallrecoder for Honor50 magic UI 4.2 android 11. Help kind people.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
Yes. It works fine. Mate 20 Pro/EMUI 12 (12.0.0.123 (C10...)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] bane4th:
Confirm. 11.0.0.109 work excellent on my P50 pro on EMUI 12.0.1
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cuixiaoke:
confirmed working on mate 40 pro NX9 on emui 12.0.0.228
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Nicole:
Sad news...

Google will kill call recording apps on Android for good starting May 11

A Google Play policy change will effectively kill third-party call recording apps starting May 11. Here's what's happening.

www.androidauthority.com
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Numicros:
"The changes won’t affect the native call recording functionality that comes pre-installed on some phones." So will not affect the functionality of Huawei Call Recorder.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Nicole:
Ok, thanks :)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xanda-escuyer:
Probably true but by no means certain.

Devices that no longer receive system updates are probably safe from harm; those that are more recent/currently being updated may well fall foul; with the user being unaware that a key feature is being cut-off.

As for Huawei Call Recorder, even this has been a specialist install since at least Android 9 because Huawei have sought to claw back the feature.

Also, from a purchasing perspective it means that anyone looking for a replacement device will have to have do yet more homework to see if the capability will be available to them.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kazavfr:
+ 1

Thanks
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Wel22:
Hi, which file suitable for honor 8x EMUI 10 ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] xanda-escuyer:
Try starting here:-

Huawei Support Community - HCR pulled from Official Builds

An EMUI 9 version might also be compatible; see here

XDA - HCR for EMUI 9
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Wel22:
Many thanks friend, work great. I found also where to make it auto
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] denzel09:
{Mod edit: Quoted post has been deleted}

Which is better for our Mate 20 Pro with Emui 12? This from Nova or this: #530 ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] volkodav1975:
This is for the new Honor, without HMS
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] denzel09:
Oh ok,. so i will use the "old" one that seems work well. Thanks 🙏
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Nicole:
Thank you [emoji120][emoji120]

Skickat från min G8441 via Tapatalk
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zimperium:
Links Update.

Google Drive abbed

Enjoy ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JoniKatita:
HELP!!!! Tried to install this on my wife's phone with oreo (I know... shame on me for not reading) and now it cannot do any call. What can I do (besides restoring the device)?

Please help me!!!!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomanic:
Works perfectly on my P20 Pro but doesn't on the Mate 20 Pro I have as well. No option to record in the dialer except the auto recording - which doesn't really record the calls, I wonder if it might be related to the unofficial firmware I'm running (.263 installed with HSTool)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zimperium:
Hi. First Delete any app recorder on your phone.

2. Download the APK file to your phone and open it from File Browser.

After that Reboot your device and Enable it from Settings in Dial. You can set it Auto or manual.

Here New Upload: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JVERr9lQGVUK2hor05TdGKlTH_FgSqY4/view?usp=drivesdk
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zimperium:
You need read before you install it.

Now if you can see Data or make calls. You need reset the network settings and Delete the recorder from your apps.

Restart and done!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Darkat70:
I have installed rebooted, set up to Auto Record, but I still have to manually press the record icon on dial screen, then it says launching app failed.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DavoP:
Does the auto record function work on the P20 Pro (CLT--L29) ? I updated to Pie / EMUI 9 and boldbeast stopped working ... a real pain in the ass as I use it all the time ... I downgraded to Oreo and had to re-install all that I had(including BoldBeast which now works again) .... Now considering going back to PIE IF THIS WORKS as it should (auto recording included)?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomanic:
Hi, I uninstalled the Cube Call Recorder I was using and I confirm the app records the calls and the button is there in dialer now, great, thank you for the support. There is one difference though - on the Mate 20 Pro I'm missing the option to view the recorded calls in the menu like I see it on P20 Pro for some reason, see the difference on screenshots below:

P20 Pro:

Mate 20 Pro:
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Zimperium:
Go to settings its will be there
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Darkat70:
It's in the recorder app
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] wonsky21:
Works fine on my Mate 10 Pro. Delete any other call recorders to make it work.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] themissionimpossible:
In the App list this app should be referred as Recorder, with version 9.0.0.100

If causing any problem, it can be uninstalled and then the stock app should reappear and be used (as it happens with all the updates of the stock apps)

In other words, this app is nothing else than a modified stock Recorder app that has the permission added to record phone calls.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ing.King:
amazing, great job, working with Honor 10
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] icecoldbeverage:
Mate 20 Pro

LYA-L09

9.0.0.210

UK unlocked

Downloaded, installed APK, restarted phone, went into phone app settings and set to auto record all calls and....

IT WORKS A TREAT and took me all of 90 seconds to setup.

Thank you to the OP and anyone else sharing this on other forums, greatly appreciated!
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mixdupkid2002:
This works on my p20 pro CLT-04 using PIE. Works like a charm. There is no need to have boldbeast not acr since they would not work with PIe
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] trojjacker:
Update on the Mate 10 Pro: Manual recording does not work for German "Deutsche Telekom" simcards, only automatic recording does. Would be interesting to see in how far this affects other Huawei models and telecom providers.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ing.King:
any chance to assign contact name in the recording file instead of number ?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mixdupkid2002:
Hey - this should be already set up. The contact name and the phone number are part of the naming convention when the recording is saved.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ing.King:
true, my bad :)
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] steventeu:
{Mod edit: Quoted post has been deleted}

For my honor magic 4 Pro after install success but there is an error on no external memory card as magic 4 Pro don't have external memory card
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] volkodav1975:
Give the rights to the microphone and memory to the program Contacts and Records, the error will go away.
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] steventeu:
After restart can use but the default voice recorder app cannot be open. Need to find it in the file to play the record,the default voice recorder app when press nothing happen
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] volkodav1975:
I said it right away. If you need a voice recorder, delete the recording. One of two or voice recorder or call recording
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] steventeu:
I need it too because the voice recorder inside got a folder name call, inside u can see ur call recorder record inside with name of ur contact easily. On Huawei there is no problem with the voice recorder and call recorder
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] denzel09:
There is a solution atm to this incompatibility? A call recorder taken directly from a chinese version of Magic 4 Pro?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] steventeu:
No idea is taken from Chinese version or not, the contact name can be see with number so I just use it and if want see the call record need go to the folder for now
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BiOMeX:
{Mod edit: Quoted post deleted}

What are you talking about? What is not working?
[Huawei Mate 20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] volkodav1975:
я не знаю что за версия Lite, но просто двойка вроде как на 8 ведре, у них запись только с Root ставится.

Mod translation via GT: I don’t know what the Lite version is, but it’s just that the deuce seems to be on the 8th bucket, they only have a record with Root.