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[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Lookasso:
am I the only one with color and focus issues?

Dear ones, I have been looking for a phone with a bright display for outdoor use and a good camera.

LG G7 Thinq+ and Samsung S10 came to me.

LG lost soon due to lesser performances and camera quality.

S10 was less bright but so much better in everything else. I kept it.

Then the P30 Pro came to me. A bit too big and heavy, and strange native storage card, but, wow, bright as hell, fast.

So I started comparing the two cameras.

It`s no discussion that the 40mp of the Huawei gives better detail MOST of the times. And that the zoom is better, and low light too.

But, macro is much trickier to get right on the P30 Pro.

Pictures taken in Photo mode (no pro, no raw) are often not as deep in focus as huawei promises with the special t bla bla sensor. In other words, I get much more often a better depth of focus and detail on the S10.

And finally, the colors are just wrong. In daylight not that much, although you can definitely see that the S10 is much more natural.

But all what is low light, the P30 Pro has better exposure but worse colors, with a predominance of yellow.

And photos taken indoor, or lets say in any artificial light environment, where light color is warm (no neon), the P30 Pro very very very very very very heavily colors all in yellow till a point that the pictures are completely useless.

So, now my dilemma is, should I hope that they are going to solve this? Is it possible at all to solve it with an update and are they working on it? Or is it a matter of deciding if choosing between the better colors and focus of the S10 and the zoom and 40mb of P30 Pro?

added pics.

it's always s10 first and p30 pr0 after.

outdoors, you see the leaves are more yellow on p30, the wall and street and everything too. the real colors were like on s10 pic

indoor daylight, s10 perfect colors, p30 washed bright yellowish cold.

indoor night artificial light with warm color temperature.

s10 less brightness and detail but much better color.

p30 all ridiculously yellow.

again last pic but this time the pro was in pro mode, although still jpeg.

so. does that happen only to me? is it a defect in my unit? a common problem? is it going to be solved in the new batch in the hardware? or in all units with emui 10?
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] ZayaanAhyaan:
I completely agree with you. I'm almost fed up with my P30 pro and been ranting about it's color science long enough.

My primary reason for shooting is kids and brownish tones come out cartoon like because of awful white balance.

I correct this most times with PRO mode but that also is a pain as it doesn't remember my last settings and I have to re program all over again and miss the shot doing so.

Indoors with yellowish light is a mess! Red is worse, I have to constantly move the camera around to somehow change it's white balance. I'm guessing it's the damn RYYB sensor. Updates have fixed it a bit, i'm on 195 now, but still not worth it.

Just waiting for Mate 30 pro to be launched on 19th and if it comes here, i'll get a hands on and then decide to toss my P30 pro of Mate or just head back to Samsung Note 10plus.

Sure, I won't get the details, faster shutter pics in Auto or the zoom, but i'm willing to trade that with usable pics!

...and don't even get me started on the videos!
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
To be honest, i'm liking more the warmer tones produce by P30 rather than cool tones from S10. Its like when it comes to the actual camera, between Leica M8 & M9 - [youtube]2MxKSyCN62k[/youtube]

P30 Pro RYYB color temp & style works exactly like the CCD sensor inside Leica M8 -

[youtube]2BQVhXujMa0[/youtube]

And between S10 & P30, i cant stand the unrealistic dynamic range, oversaturate and abysmal details that S10 produce. P30 always takes the cakes because of the superior hardware, plus u can just easily adjust color tones to your liking using Lightroom/Snapseed. Even in my Mate 20, i myself edit & add a bit with yellowish/warmer tones to it, just like P30 already produce. For me, it gave life & calmer to look at. Check it out.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
More pics from my Mate 20 with added a bit yellowish/warmer tones.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
But the mate 20 and the p30 pro have very different sensors, all your uploaded photos are from the mate 20?
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
That is the point. My Mate 20 has RGGB sensor, P30 has RYYB sensor, hence the more yellowish/warmer tones.

What i'm trying to say the warmer/yellowish tones is not a bad deal at all, even i add the warmer tones on my Mate 20 pics afterwards just like P30 does out of the box. I just prefer pics that way. If u found it too yellow, simply just change the hue/color temp later on.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
But I think the case is that the RYYB sensor interprets and creates colors that do not have on its sensor, and this makes a somewhat artificial yellow, very different from the yellow tones that you create in your photographs, whose editing can be in color temperature , hue or saturation.

I think Huawei, I create the p30 pro with this sensor to perfect it and have it ready in the mate 30, as it once did with the p9 / mate9, where everything created in that generation came to work perfectly in the generation p10 / mate10 / p20. Huawei does a lot to test features with cell phones and then throw the "final version" in the next series of cell phones.

I am currently a user of s10 + Exynos and I really hate the photography that this cell phone takes, it really seems that it takes worse photographs than my already retired p10, I think I may go for the p30 pro, but I also know that I am going on a more experimental side, where the processor of the photo can give many failures, since Huawei still does not perfect the subject of the RYYB sensor. I really believe that occupying that sensor was a mistake, they had to have perfected their set of RGB and Monochromatic sensors, they started this and then left :(

Sorry for speaking many topics and sorry for my bad English.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Trust me, Huawei improving their RYYB sensor devices recently, makes a great Leica color science than the early production, especially on newer EMUI 10 later. And next Mate 30 will surely perfected it.

Take a look at this, Note 10+ itself looks more yellowish tones than P30 Pro lol - [youtube]5bQt5mLiKsI[/youtube]
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] benbird7:
Well following on from my post above early August and after watching the launch event yesterday and with the mate 30 lacking in google services (at present) I decided to bite the bullet and got a P30 Pro second hand (unicorn kisses).

I got my mate 20 pro last Nov when it came out and have been itching for an upgrade but convinced myself to wait until yesterday's launch. So far I have found the P30 pro very similar to the mate 20 pro, it is wider and more difficult to hold one handed the camera in low light and the zoom is better but sometimes not quite a rich in color as the mate 20 pro + has 8 vs 6gb of RAM (do you really notice)...

I don't know whether to keep it or sell it on and keep my old mate 20 pro? I also recently got a compact bridge camera with 30x optical zoom, so do I really need the extra zoom?!

I am going to use it a few days to see how the battery life plays out and if I can get more used to it.

It'll be the mate 20 pro or the p30 pro that is up for sale in a few days though.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] dougm1970:
ok, looking for some tips...and thanks in advance for any replies....p30 pro on .193 patch btw.

1. i am having issues with movement in photos causing blur...a dog running was perfect on my old samsung s8+...but even in pro mode on this i find it hard...and impossible on 5x zoom or in lower light.

2. for some reason i cant get a good portrait mode..patches of clear in blurred background etc...i try aperture mode on 2x too...but would welcome any advice.

3. indoor photos seem to be washed out looking with over-exposure or reddish faces

4. do any other camera apps work better in any of them scenarios...open camera etc ?

5. how do i get a decent starry night photo ? :)
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] goldybewon:
Some Super Macro shots today morning... Butterfly..

Thanks,

goldybewon
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
Go from a Huawei p10 to a samsung s10 plus and now to the p30 pro and I really love the dynamic range of your DNG and JPEG files, the 2 have good latitude.

But in the edition of DNG files, the yellow / red colors work differently than conventional sensors, right now I am learning to handle it.

The black and white photo is an edition in Lightroom Mobile, taken in JPEG in portrait mode.

And the color photo also edited the Lighroom Mobile, taken in DNG and edited with a preset of mine that I occupy on the computer.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Love your color preset. Film-look, got that 'Leica' vibe :laugh:
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Hybrid Soldier:
Could you share your presets?
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Lookasso:
Too much work. I want to have pics that i can immediately share. If for every single pic i need to transfer it to my old show notebook and edit it, then i just buy a camera.

There idea behind a phone with a good camera is that I'm a nomad and i want as less things as possible with me, so the phone must do a good job without me having to spend hours to make it work.

That said, any news about the "new" p30 pro? Is this problem solved with emui 10 and the new camera software?

And what about the mate 30? Is it better?
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] MrThreeChains:
Then you have no idea about photography. Even with a 2000$ camera, you still "need" to edit photos to get them to look like you want.

There's a reason why people shoot in RAW format, because they want to control how the picture looks. And the P30 and also Mate 30 already make great photos out of the box. Its always personal taste when people say the S10 is better, the iPhone is better etc.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Lookasso:
I meant that if i have to edit then i prefer to use a real camera. I use a phone to have quick decent results and i look for a phone which gives the best jpg results. At the moment the p30 pro doesn't seem to be the phone. If they corrected this with the new software, this is my question.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] MrThreeChains:
This is your personal opinion. I am not quite sure if they already did something in the EMUI 10 beta, because apparently they wanted to introduce a new camera color algorithm. The P30 Pro is still Huaweis flagship with the biggest market share, so i am sure they will continue to update their camera software.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
Thanks :D

Sure, no problem, these preset are my personal and usually my friends photographers sell them, but I do not think there is any problem in sharing some here.

Currently I only took a photo in DNG, my nephew who took the test, I hope within these days take more photos in DNG to do more tests, such as solving the vignetting. Let me know if you are interested in uploading preset updates, to change the ones that exist in Google Drive.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lA-9sgvTtORD6SYOlbESy0x7gcDk9wwi?usp=sharing

You know how they deal, right?

Mini basic guide: Export in lightroom mobile, then go to the tab copy settings and then in the photo you want to reveal you paste the settings, that simple. You can also find an online tutorial on how to occupy offline preset in lightroom mobile.

Sorry for my bad English, I'm Spanish speaking and I don't handle English very well.

What you say is the right thing and at the same time not, I am a professional photographer and I generally hate to walk with my camera to take the occasional spontaneous photo, a lot of weight, change of lenses and the subject that your work team can steal from you.

I find that the p30 pro takes good pictures, as in jpeg as in DNG, another thing is not knowing how to take advantage of it, it is also not very cumbersome to edit, if one is handled with digital development, you only have to create some preset and in 4 steps already You have your photo revealed.

I bought my p30 a week ago and I have not seen any problem in the photographic section, where I have seen a problem in the video, when recording video it looks like a low-end cell phone.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
You can solve vignetting with Lightroom on PC using these sliders

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And here are the three presets from your DNGs exported from LR for PC (Courtesy of xxxcazador)

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JkSlnKftnsnTeAW6Oqt8F-9Kw-jjwdc5
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
Hello friend, I have the original files in xmp, as I said in the publication, they are preset that I usually sell, so I uploaded them of type DNG, so that the boys who edit via smartphone do not have problem with the conversion DNG to XMP.

About the edition of the vignette, it is a somewhat long process, since the wide angle and the main camera give different types of vignetting and that should be evaluated with several photographs, it is not done quickly, so in color edition and In the first black and white it has the vignetting edition at 0, so that the end user will control it for the moment.

Now within these days, I will be watching the preset to see that they work in an optimal way for the DNG of the cell phone, so I put that I will update the google drive files if they were interested.

Friend, it bothers me a little that you have extracted the preset and shared them without my name and without the names of the preset :/ could you fix this?
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
Well I was replying to you so people should see I was explaining they were your presets I extracted, but I have given credit anyway ;)
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
Hi guys, here I upload the preset again, today I can re-edit and upload the color and the first black and white, tomorrow I will try to upload the black and white I occupy for architecture. Along with the new rise, I also give information about the preset in case they want to know a little about the preset they want to occupy.

I also want to ask, do you know anything about whether Huawei or Adobe will make a vignette profile on the wide lens of the p30 pro? The vignette he performs is very rare, it is very impossible to eliminate it :(

I apologize again for my English.

FireWood B & W1 - Main camera - It has a default vignetting percentage of +25, but it can be as good as +51, depending on the image.

The base state of this preset is somewhat underexposed via the exposure option, generally the image looks good in this way, but if there is a lot of backlight, you can upload the exposure without any problem the dynamic range of the p30 pro allows it so I have seen so far.

FireWood B & W1 - Wide camera - Here by default the vignette is at 0, since when the vignette correction in solid colors such as the sky is occupied, it is not seen in a homogeneous way and enhances a bad post-production, but if they do not exist Solid colors and in the corners you can see a lot of texture and rhythm, you can use the vignette in a prudent way without any problem. Here, in my opinion you can play with the midpoint between 0 and 40, to reach an optimal result in the picture. Really Lightroom or Huawei should create a profile to solve this problem.

As in Main Camera - The base preset is underexposed, and the exposure can be regulated in the exposure section.

I found that the optimal detail for DNGs and this preset was +65, if anyone has another recommendation I will gladly read them.

Firewood Color - Main and Wide Camera - The percentage of vignetting is 0 by default, since this preset handles color vignetting well, but this can change depending on the photo, you can always play with this feature.

This preset has pleasantly accentuated the wood and earth colors, which can help a lot to the photographs of the Huawei p30 pro. It has +10 contrast, since the edition alone gives it a lot of contrast, there are even photographs to which the contrast should be lowered, for reasons of making the photography very intense, by default it has the detail in this preset for DNG of the Huawei P30 Pro is +75.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
Left Raw --- Right Fixed in LR for PC
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] benbird7:
Didn't like the P30 pro as much as my mate 20 pro so sold it on.

Reasons being:

•	Face recognition much better on mate 20 pro, it works in the dark was hit and miss for me in low light on the p30 pro.

•	Camera – it goes straight to 5x zoom and isn't actually that usable. I prefer the snap to 3x optical on the mate 20 pro.

•	Camera - Also the low light shots were too bright you lost the time of the day the photo was taken as it looked like it was day when it was low light in the evening.

•	Too wide, I thought only a mm more would be fine, but found it slightly too wide to comfortably hold.

•	Didn’t find the battery life significantly better than the mate 20 pro, I have updated mine to the new file system in 9.1.

•	Don’t like the fact it rocks when sitting on the desk, the mate 20 is even and doesn’t rock due to the centre cam module.

As the old saying goes, if it ain’t broke don’t try fixing it. I’ll continue with my mate 20 pro until a suitable alternative comes out....
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] goldybewon:
Catching the Sky... Drive continue

Thanks,

goldybewon
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Lookasso:
Did anybody here compare personally the camera of the p30 pro with the note 10+, and could give some thoughts about the strengths and weakness of each, compared to each other?
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Rajaasim1980:
I have found Pixel and samsung camera as best when taking pictures of moving objects i.e kids and pets .. Huawei are great for static objects and night photography..so if you take plenty photos of children and want best point and shoot camera then get pixel 2/3/3a etc
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Leoxur:
Coming from oneplus 3t (using It with gcam) I was very disappointed by the color management in some scenes, the presence of a yellow tint also difficult to remove in editing shocked me. I'm thinking of returning it to amazon and going back to oneplus ...Seeing also a comparison between oneplus 7t and p30 pro, i'have Always prefer the oneplus shots.

Shooting with gcam on oneplus 3t almost never need post-editing, but here i need to correct manually too many shots
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] goldybewon:
Super Macro night shot with flash...:good:

Tiny little Rose with layers.

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Thanks,

goldybewon

Huawei P30 Pro...:highfive:
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] TorpedoGirl:
This is a shot I made 2 weeks ago, forgot to post this until now :rolleyes:
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Deiota77:
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[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] djingonthenet:
Opening scenes to Independence day in Asda car park!
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] xxxcazador:
Photographs I took with the reliable p30 pro at the demonstrations in Chile
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Hybrid Soldier:
In these pictures there's something that really bores me almost all the time

WHY THE FOCUS CAN'T FOCUSE THE ENTIRE ROSE?

Every pic that I tried to toke it close is the same thing.. It focuse only in certain parts of the object, not the entire object.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
Depends on the sensor and lens used, macro shots have a very narrow focal point
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Leoxur:
Try using Aperture mode and set top f16
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Thats how Autofocus works (basically thats how camera works). If u on AI or AI disable, autofocus still there. U have to use Pro mode & change the focus mode.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] IamNumber25:
Because your phone have a wide aperture and your subject is too close that's why it creates shallow depth of field.

Also, you use macro shots that's why it only focus on the subject as near as 2.5cm
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] hoib:
Can't wait until I can post a few I've taken myself, but I need some more posts.

I do want to comment on the zoom aspect of the phone though. Many say it is a gimmick and you will use it a few times and get tired of it.

I personally am very pleased with the functionality and can recommend it. I have actually relied on the function multiple times now. For example, in my day-to-day work, I am dealing with energy meters and electrical stuff. Just a little while ago, I had to identify some energy meters that were like 5 meters in the air. With the naked eye, I could only see that they are there, but nothing more specific. However, I needed their identification codes. It was very convenient to use my P30 Pro for this - I rested the phone on a surface for stabilization and took the photos of these meters and could read the codes I needed. I can confidently say that I could have not done this with my OG Pixel's digital zoom.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
You can post the links to the images using hxxp instead of http, people can change them back to view
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] hoib:
Let's see if it works. If someone could quote me and replace as appropriate, I would appreciate.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
Those links don't work, use imgur.com to upload them
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] NekoMichi:
[IMG="image"]https://i.imgur.com/Jd3yAcJ.jpg[/IMG]

15-second exposure taken with Star Trail mode, adjusted with Lightroom Mobile.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] tmohammad:
I came to this phone from the Mate 20 Pro. The camera on that was awsome. Pictures were so natural looking. On the P30 Pro, they seem to have meddled with the software that somehow makes them look artificial... and doctored...

I assume that the Mate 20 Pro Camera has been tweked for longer... and I'm hoping Huawei will address this in upcoming Firmware Updates.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] hoib:
Let's try again

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I agree that compared to the Pixel, this phone is harder to shoot with and to get the photo right. Pixel's AI worked better. However, for anyone doubting, I am really-really happy to have made the switch, because the camera is a lot more versatile, the battery is absolutely stellar (as is the charging speed) and the screen is bigger and better.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Zeblade:
last night I wanted to test my new phone I got yesterday P30 pro. No lights on about 1am. WOW. it looked as if I took it during the day. That alone was kool lol
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Deiota77:
Hello.

Does anyone can tell me how to take a Boken selfie...?

Thanks

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[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
Select "Portrait" then from the bottom left circle icon on screen, choose Bokeh effect you want
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Gnaget:
But not every effect works. Eg hearts virvle had newer worked.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] *Detection*:
They work, just make sure the background is far enough away ideally outside
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Gnaget:
Thx

I will try, I'd made the opposite background near.
[Huawei P30 Pro Real Life Review] Deiota77:
Does anyone knows the selfie effect on iPhone xs? On selfies it has a great Boken effect. Is it possible to do it on p30 pro?

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