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[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] misfitpierce:
Because your on the beta... Obviously...

They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] admirberisha99:
Nope im in the latest stable OS. https://www.oneplus.com/de/support/softwareupgrade/details?code=9 this one
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] M3drvr:
And like I initially said, if you read, on beta...
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] phillymade:
I'm not entirely sure why people are bent out of shape over not getting monthly updates. I guess I'm missing something. For me the updates come when they come, and in the meantime I just use the device and never think about what security patch it's on.

But that's me.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestD0544:
Its says open beta 7 on your first screen ! (Please give a cookie to this guy)

Latest stable(9.0.12) is on janury security patch, stop drug man you are already on the latest beta, that's why you have more telemetry, more battery drain, less stability but you are on latest security patch... (omegalul)

PS : Stop to play with your phone If you do not know what you're doing with.

Omagad, poor xda...
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] M3drvr:
Well original poster never said he was on stable. So that's why I said, if you want latest and are concerned, beta gives it. If you don't want to do that, stop complaining Imo. OnePlus still does better than majority of companies
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] GuestD0544:
?

Im talking about you (and your screenshot when you say not sure why) and not the original poster.

Beta gives it definitly with more telemetry, more battery drain and less stability, it's paradoxal for a homogeneous ROMs focused on security.

Actually, I bought all the smartphones of the brand and Oneplus are funny about the speed of deployment of security patches.

Essential, Nokia and Google are 15x faster to deploy an update on their terminals, it's not just a fanboy response, we're in the factual there.

So yes clearly Oneplus is at the top of the table and I never say otherwise however it is just correct for the deployment of updates, i'm sorry for Oneplus but how many smartphones to manage ?

Essential, Nokia and Google are more responsive, end of the story.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] IDisposable:
Did everyone forget that the entire staff took a few weeks off for religious holiday. The pipeline of updates doesn't just start dripping out the other end instantly.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] M3drvr:
Never noticed any difference in stability or anything going stable to beta. Maybe you do, but I do not and have only had better results running beta VS stable. I have no extra telemetry VS stable so cut the crap with That please and thank it.

OnePlus providing updates for a lot longer these days than even Google is supplying for there phones. OnePlus 3,still getting pie and its 3 years old coming up. That's far longer than Google gives updates. Essential has one phone to take care so come on,don't go there,that's not fair to compare to, unless you know of more than one phone that essential builds that no one else seems to have purchased.... Google to OnePlus is similar in asking of devices to support especially considering size of Google as a whole.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] champ784:
I think it's very easy to criticize OnePlus when they're supporting MULTIPLE devices as much as they are. Look at companies like Samsung, LG, Google, Motorola, and others. Their update cycles are slower, less frequent, and don't last as long in the long-term. Yes, OnePlus has always been known as an enthusiast brand and was for us who like to tinker with their phones. But they're a company who need to make a profit, and they've really had to restructure as they grow to keep up with demand. They also release phones every 6 months, and I'm sure they've had to spend enormous resources to design the 7, while still supporting devices like the 3. No company is perfect, but they're far superior, in my eyes, at maintaining devices that can compete with other manufacturers, while also having to follow guidelines of other companies like T-Mobile and Google who require them to follow their rules in order to stay in business. As someone who works in Telecom, I see more issues from other companies than OnePlus. While it's important to voice our concerns on forums and towards the company, I think they deserve some credit for not venturing too far from their roots, despite their evolution as a company.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Milly7:
I agree that no company is perfect. But, monthly updates, at least for security patches are very important nowadays, especially since the exploits that are patched on the security fixes become known and thus leave people vulnerable.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] iamterence:
For those complaining, you guys DO realize that we're on the better side of things when it comes to updates, right... ? Lmao
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] phillymade:
The really sad part is if OnePlus did give monthly updates (or any manufacturer), these same people would be complaining that there are no new features, or nothing was updated just the security. Me, me, me, give, give, give, want, want, want. There was a time when XDA was fun, you learned things and there was always new development and it has changed over the years for various reasons. I have backed off because of all the *****ing and complaining. It's just a phone guys, nothing else, it's a hobby for me and nothing else. Can we stop with all the complaining?
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Eliminater74:
I read through this thread and nearly couldnt help but laugh, People complaining because OP doesnt give them a snappy security patch, which is all in crazy anyhow.. I mean.. you act like some hacker is going to hack into your device and take your stuff within the next 5 mins or so...... I used to be a ONEPLUS hater, Then After LG and Company screwed me over, then my Carrier started selling the OP, I decided why not, lets give

it a try, and I must say I been very satisfied with it so far, everyone complaining, I wonder what you did on your old devices that didnt get patches but maybe a few times a year..

I dont get it. I personally think OP has gone above and beyond what nearly any other OEM would do. and your still not happy....... I hear more complaints about the OP then I do any other OEM,

and OP gives you a hell of alot more then any other OEM would do. you get a Flagship device for half of the price any other OEM flagship device would cost, and you still complain, not to mention you complain because

hardware isnt 100% perfect, The reason they can give you the device for half the cost of all other OEM flagship devices, because they learned to retard on some things, If you want a perfect 100% everything, and all hardware top shape, then get another device with all that and pay $1,200.00 + for it...........

Sorry just adding my 2 cents..........

This is the main reason I kinda stopped using XDA too.... Half the time it feels like Romper Room in here.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bladestonez:
Seem the forum has been taken over by the entitled. Give me, give me, give me. They want oem updates daily, rom updates, rom ports, modifications, people to search for them. You name it it seems very few people on here understand how this stuff works. It takes time this phone is pretty damn awesome and so is the community that's outside the entitled zone.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Telyx:
At least it isn't as bad here as it is on the OnePlus community forums.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] tengtengvn:
OP should switch to Samsung to get faster update.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ГАСООП:
I don't mind if updates were monthly or not, but I just wish I got non laggy smooth phone. Since 9.0.12 the performance is just bad. Its pissing me off that sd845 device works worse than sd625. Scrolling is very choppy, laggy and stutters. Can't stand it. I guess they should have patched it asap, but yeah, I'm only "client" not a client so
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Its rare to hear that
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] schmeggy929:
How are they going to patch your issues, which is a rarity. You would be the first I have heard that a 6T choppy, laggy and performance is bad.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
My thoughts exactly ??
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] spasecowboi77:
My OnePlus 6T is awesome! I've had plenty of different phones and by far this one tops all. I loved my Samsung S8+. I use T-Mobile services and this phone was the easiest to unlock BL, install TWRP and root. If ya can't figure this phone out then you shouldn't try to customize any phone. I've got nothing but mad props and respect for XDA senior developers to whom have worked hard in finally getting a phone made for them and anyone who is interested in ROM development and customisation. The updates are on par with Google. Yes Google has Q but OnePlus will be one of the fist to receive that when it's ready. The OnePlus beta program availability is great. I have no probs with this device.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] champ784:
Do you know how Linux works when it comes to package changes? It's not like you just install a file and it simply works. When you make changes to one part of the OS, it affects so many other aspects of the system that need to be modified and changed in order to accept said changes. This modification takes time and effort that many people work very hard on. Security patches isn't just "updating your virus definitions." Besides, if you're being that risky and visiting sites and installing packages that could harm your device that rapidly, you probably shouldn't be modifying to to begin with. That's what iPhone is for: a system that's so locked down to prevent people from damaging the OS with risky behavior.

Not trying to be condescending or anything. It's just somewhat frustrating when arguments like this are brought up. It's one thing to be upset when updates don't come for months on end. But when it comes to missing a SINGLE month, or maybe two months, it's treated like some sort of major issue. Nothing but constructive points I'm trying to bring up here. ??
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Milly7:
I completely understand how Linux works. I know it takes time to create stability with updates.

I do not take your remarks as condescending, but this remark, "if you're being that risky and visiting sites and installing packages that could harm your device that rapidly, you probably shouldn't be modifying to to begin with" is assuming and borderline disrespectful.

It is not about being risky, recall blue borne and the vulnerabilities in the WiFi Stack that can leave every user at risk with normal cellphone usage. For a company to leave users waiting for updates for these kind of issues for a long period of time is unacceptable, at least to me.

I am by no way upset, because I keep at least 6 phones minimum at the ready, and use whichever updates first to fix vulnerabilities, including my iPhone. :laugh:

Cheers.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bradhoschar:
This thread is demeaning to the OPO dev community as a whole. This is nothing but complaining about things they're currently working on.

Shame.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Caltinpla:
Agreed!!!
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gorman42:
How so? I bought a smartphone based on information available that widely talked about bi-monthly security patches. Those are not currently happening. Why would it be demeaning to ask why this is the case?

I read people talking about "entitlement". Yeah, as a paying customer I'm entitled to get what I paid for. And what I paid for is here, clearly spelled out by OnePlus for its existing and future customers:

https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-software-maintenance-schedule.862347/

How is asking for what's been advertised demeaning? As a customer, and not a developer (and we are in a general news and discussion section of the forums, not a development one) I could not care less about how hard it is to issue updates. That's OnePlus business, not mine. I am a customer and I simply want what I payed for.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bradhoschar:
It's demeaning because there's information available about the subject here on these forums. Snags that the dev runs into SHOULD and WILL be taken into consideration.

See screenshot, and feel free to express your opinions in the correct forum.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ГАСООП:
I totally support you. It's sad people are defending companies nowadays and fight with each other in the sake of companies brands etc. Boycotting a negative company actions can only bring good to community, while defending their every action, false advertising and promises can only show the company they can do whatever they want. This happens in every market right now, not only smartphones. Also I'm pissed when people use "entitled" word.. yeah as a client i can only blindly stare into company and thank God I am able to witness company's product... We're not clients anymore, were "clients". And don't you dare to even ask where is what you paid for because horde of brainless will Insult you.. sad, really sad. And even more sad is the fact it will only get worse in the future. Only worse.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bradhoschar:
A non-disclosure agreement issue that OPO is facing now (see my previous attachment pic) is NOT a reason to 'boycott' an update. It's not even wise to utter those words, as there's literally nothing they can do to push the update out any faster.

Us, as 'CLIENTS' will just have to grin and bear it, or use the beta until next ETA is released. Feel free to ask [MENTION=6143932]Funk Wizard[/MENTION] any other questions you have.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ultyrunner:
And on stock there have been no monthly patches since I bought the 6T in January. Dunno what you're talking about, but they haven't provided a 'monthly' security update in nearly four.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] areyouanand:
I honestly don't worry/care about security patch level, unless there are some very imp fixes for security threats.

custom ROMs are the way to go. Now that we have 90% or fully working FOD on some ROMs (Big thanks to Vache and everyone behind the scene),

We can have latest and greatest features/patches in short delay comparing to Pixel devies.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] worldsoutro:
geez :eek:
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Reuben_skelz92:
Someone has money to waste ?
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] worldsoutro:
I know really!!!! :cool:
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] M3drvr:
If you don't like it, beta is available and is as stable as stable. If you're gonna use stable, that's your choice, so stop complaining. Nothing is wrong with beta, and has the latest security patches. Suck it up and install beta if you want the latest security. Otherwise, stop complaining.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
I am not happy with OnePlus myself for numerous reasons and this is my first and last OP device but people do need to stop taking it out on [MENTION=6143932]Funk Wizard[/MENTION] . It's not like he's the decision maker or CEO.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bladestonez:
Unfortunately the only way to get true aod on oos requires you to stay on stable. And since OP has decided that we have to settle with no notification indicator at all beta isn't an option. And I'm sick of the touch the screen crap if I have to touch the phone it's no indicator. I don't hate this phone, but OnePlus you settled here and it's a real shame you won't listen to your customers.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gorman42:
I completely fail to understand how asking a company to respect what it advertised its product on is "complaining". Nobody is asking anything more than what was advertised by OnePlus. And they advertised it because it was a selling point.

People inform themselves (hopefully) and then decide which product to buy. What's wrong in wanting what's been promised my the manufacturer? Why are you and others so dismissive about this basic concept? False advertising is not ok, why are you painting it like it suddenly is?

Personally I don't have *anything* against OPO employees and my criticism is not targeted against them. I'm talking about a company which should maintain its promises with its clients. Nothing more.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] deepu458:
+1
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Funk Wizard:
^^ This
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_head:
So maybe I'm confused.

There was an update in Dec. It was around the 20th.

There was an update in the middle of Feb.

We are in the middle of April and as long as the update is delivered by then end what have they not delivered?

Bi-Monthly updates means every other month and right now as long as they have an 8.0.13 or higher with March security patches there is no issue.

What have I missed where people are disappointed?
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] FCORivers:
So, you get an LG or Samsung and they come bloated with apps that don't work nearly as good as and are supposed to do the same as the preloaded Google apps ((which I know they have to preload for various reasons) so you agree to share your info with the phone manufacturer and Google, because you would still do it since you could have bought an iPhone but didn't), they offer updates for 2 years (because of Google, not because they want) so depending of which brand you get you MIGHT get an update every 3 months, maybe, and when you finally get it the security patch is 2 months old, and then it will take those manufacturers 9 months to a year to get you the latest Android version (can you hear me LG?) You should see the hoops you gotta jump thru to root a LG G6 and good luck rooting any Qualcomm Samsung device.

And you guys are complaining about not enough updates with OP having an OpenBeta option and getting bimonthly updates for the majority of the time up until roughly 2 and a half months?

I'm not a fanboy, I'm disappointed with some things myself like the Pandora problem I've been having and some weird BT disconnections, and I would have liked wireless charging, but all of this "AOD" crap and "Timely Updates" complaining is getting out of hand. You got the closest to the Pixel option in the market with the closest to Google update program for a half the price and yet complain. Go get a S10e for 600 or S10 for 750 or S10+ for 900 plus tax and shut up. You get what you pay for.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] eboelzner:
Final word... Actually reality... There will NEVER be AOD functionality on the 6T. Try and follow... Do you think OP would risk having to replace screens with burn-in? NEVER! So... can you PLEASE STOP being whining cry babies and go buy a device that supports AOD... And then leave this forum... Thank you

The sheer number of entitled people these days... If you want it so bad... Build your own! That's what I do... ?
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bladestonez:
Except it does support aod lol it's a hidden option that can be enabled. But your retort is pretty amusing.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ultyrunner:
Disagree completely. It would be demeaning if this was a custom ROM forum and people were asking for ETAs on next releases or features from a dev who's volunteering their time and developing for free or even donations. Asking a company, who has stated CLEARLY that they will be doing bi-monthly security patches for a phone, when they will actually deliver them because their last patch is nearly four months old, is completely reasonable.

I too bought the 6T based in part on these commitments. If Oneplus wasn't prepared to meet the schedule they shouldn't have promised. On social media, the best you get from OP support is "no idea, watch our social media feeds for more info" and that's ridiculous.

I'd also agree that reduced expectations for good hardware at an excellent price point when compared to other flagships is reasonable, but telling people it's demeaning to ask a company when they'll meet their promised feature releases is not only not demeaning but completely acceptable.

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I did install beta, but didn't complain at all. I stated a fact.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Josh McGrath:
They've "supposedly" blamed it on battery issues and now it's burn in issues? ??

I say supposed because I have never read any official word from OP
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ultyrunner:
Exactly. The people calling out a statement of fact and a request for a promised delivery schedule to be met seem to be ones who have spent more time in custom ROM forums, which this is not. It's bad form to ask a custom ROM developer for updates when it's entirely their volunteer time to do software updates. This isn't that, and I wish some people understood that.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] bradhoschar:
It's demeaning because https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/official-oxygenos-9-0-4-ota-oneplus-6t-t3860953 is the DISCUSSION & FEEDBACK page. Your opinions would be more received (or not) if you took to the forums, and voiced your concerns instead of starting a new thread complaining. There has been MULTIPLE posts about why the next update isn't pushed out yet. For you to start sandbagging when [MENTION=6143932]Funk Wizard[/MENTION] was kind enough to give everyone a status update in the aforementioned post is just asinine.

Take it to the other forum and complain there.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] ultyrunner:
First of all, I wasn't here for the early posts and second, I didn't 'sandbag' anyone. All I wondered is why no updates and defended those asking the same question. Take it down a notch please, because the description you have above isn't accurate at all, at least where I'm concerned. And, I had nothing to do with starting this thread.

As for demeaning? "causing someone to lose their dignity and the respect of others" or "doing something beneath one's dignity" don't even fit this discussion at all. Maybe you meant unfair. If that's your opinion, that's different than telling people ASKING A QUESTION, that they are demeaning someone.

If you don't want people getting worked up, how about you stop doing it yourself and demonstrate the behaviour you'd like to see? Seems like strange behaviour for a forum moderator, but of course that's up to you.

And, don't worry, I'm done with this thread since you seem to want to flame anyone who doesn't share your views.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] tech_head:
The last patch was released in Feb around the middle of the month. It had the January drop from Google.

The previous drop was in Dec from OnePlus.

As long as they deliver an update before the end of this month with the March Google drop they are meeting their commitment.

Every other month security updates.

You are confusing every other month, with what they include in the update.

They never said that the latest kernel patch will be included.

They run a month or so behind because they beta the changes for 5 weeks or so.

Essential does not have the beta phase and rolls the kernel into their live branch.

Different companies do it differently.