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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] avirupz:
Problems are still there. Now new problem after long freeze system ui crashed and rebooted.

Have to check with LKT.

Same problem with LKT also.

Back to 2.0 with LKT, BEST EXPERIENCE TILL NOW.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] dawidrejowski:
With new build freezes almost gone. Exeption is gcam (if have apps on recent) :)

LMK changes too much for me. Max CPU speed for example
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] zhunynho:
Hi sorry about no more updates my z play was broken and i am on Note 7 now luck for all.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Sad news, good luck.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
I agree. Battery usage is also moderate.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
[MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION]

Here is a log for problems with gcam and kernel 3.010. Phone almost hangs completely and got hot immediately after starting gcam [emoji53]

I observed that open camera in hdr mode also hangs up after taking photo, my there is a problem with quick series of photos taken or write to memory?

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
Uploaded v3.014, switched from lowmemorykiller to simple_lmk, issues are now definetely solved, this is the last pre-release, next one will be the full v3.0 release ;)
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Looks like gcam problem is fixed indeed [emoji106]. Still testing 3.014. Name it 3.14 = Phi kernel [emoji6]

Some tuning is needed for other apps, scrolling is not smooth in gmail, Opera(it also starts very slow) ... good job with gcam [emoji106]

Looks like clearing all aps cache via titanium backup helps a bit ,but performance vary a lot - still 2.0 kernel is much better . I am not sure but maybe performace problems are from SkiaGL - I found it few days ago in one GSI rom (don't remember its name) and switching SkiaGL/openGL was possible - on SkiaGL rom went crazy :/

Well after 7h with kernel 3.014 I am going to return to 2.0 - gcam on 3.014 work good now but overall performance is not good yet unfortunately , major slowdowns happend from time to time with no visible reason :/

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
SkiaGL is already set by default in my ROM's and my kernel installers
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
I know, but in 2.0 too? Or not?

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
in 2.0 too
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Then I don't know why 3.xxxx kernels still have problems , while 2.o not :confused:
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
[MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION] if you have time, Please don't forget changing Bootleggers to 64bit. and take a look at Havoc-OS ROM as well. it will be a big move for our phone.

Thanks.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Jcth1:
Can anyone confirm if this will work with a rooted stock 8.0 ROM??

Cheers
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Thank you so much [MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION] for the first build of Havoc-OS ? I will test it and come back to you with the results. Thanks again
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Wow... HAVOC not GSI [emoji854]. Thx [MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION].

For Havoc - gapps are needed I suppose?

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Yes mate gapps are needed
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
EvolutionX is super, can't wait to try Havoc [emoji16]

Need to back home, made backups and charge phone [emoji367]

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Which Magisk version you use that doesn't causing lags and instability ?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
From what I know latest Magisk doesn't doesnt cause issues at all in my builds, I always flash magisk after rom and gapps without wiping cache or dalvik afterwards
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
So do I - now I am on Magisk 19.4, no problems with EvolutionX.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
I installed Havoc and it looks amazing, thanks again Stayn. I will go through it for the next hours to test the rom performance.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
Nice to know that it works, I'm going to give it a try.

Edit: btw, [MENTION=9190953]Jcth1[/MENTION], this kernel doesnt work on stock oreo
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] albertovazquez:
thank you for your roms are wonderful and work the best
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Did you try it yet? I think there is an issue in ram management have to resolved. Because when there are many recent apps the phone start to hang or behave like no available ram. if I clear recent apps it's back to normal state.

Except this everything is perfect.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
I tried it and I didn't liked it, but I didn't see any ram problems, in fact, my kernel issues with ram was because im stupid so it's now fixed, which means that this time it has to be a ROM issue.

By the way, full artxkernel v3.0 is almost done, I'm probably going to release it tomorrow after flashing and testing some things with XPerience to make sure it works perfectly in treble or GSI :)

Edit: [MENTION=8418844]albertovazquez[/MENTION], glad to hear that!!
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Which rom you like the most?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] albertovazquez:
I tried 3 and 3 I like them a lot but the one I like the most and has more stability and functions is abok but I would like to try the ROM Q since I tried it but it doesn't give me a signal
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
In Havoc is used kernel from 3.0 branch or 2.0? (I got answer its 3.x because of heavily lag with 8 aps in background +gcam). So I need to try 2.0 kernel. I didn't faced other problems yet. I have one problem specific for me I think - I use tool called Migrate to backup apps and it's data it make flashable zips from apps but it can't be restored on your roms - l got error 7 in twrp...

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
I restored my app with migrate normally in this rom but I faced the same lag issue you mentioned, please let me know if you get it solved.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
What Twrp you use?

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
You mean Havoc right? Is it working without lags with you if they're some recent apps?

I think we shall wait for Q to be more stable as that all Q rom I know its user complaining from bugs and instability as Q is still beta.

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I returned to Alberto's. it's more stable for non treble rom.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
3.0 is used for havoc, there has to be no differente with 3.0 or 2.0 on this build because if it lags with some apps in background + gcam it has to be that ROM, I'm currently using Potato AOSP build with artx 3.0 and no problems at all here (the only issue with this build is that the wifi is a bit tricky to enable so I wouldn't recommend it if that bothers you)

Edit: I tried also Pixel Experience with the 3.0 kernel (full release) before moving to PAOSP, no issues at all

If someone asked me which ROM is the most stable, I would highly recommend Pixel Experience, I'll keep doing update builds for that ROM
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
I used 2 Magisk Modules "LKT & Ram Management fixes" trying to solve the lagging issue in Haavoc but nearly nothing changed.

Then I tried another module "zRam/SWAP Manager" and lagging has gone. I used it for 2 hours now,

I'll watch my phone performance and come back to you. zRam module is for increasing performance by avoiding disk paging.

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I also like Pixel but both builds have lagging as well it might because the new kernel 3 trials . After you releasing the final version of kernel 3 I will give it a try.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Now testing zram module on Havoc stock kernel, Havoc itself should be stable even used as gsi had only errors from xpe vendor no single ram management problem.

Because [MENTION=4403780]TeamMex[/MENTION] ended xpe 13 development and goes for Q (Android 10), I quit gsi for now... thanks to new development from [MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION] I got what I need without gsi stuff [emoji846]. Gsi is powerful technology but needs time and experience to use.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] KubiGR:
Testing the same config. Stock havoc got unresponsive for me.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] albertovazquez:
I have the latest version of twrp and I have no problem And if I refer to Havoc and then how do you do it and wait for it? Q already official thank you very much for the great work In advance I apologize for English but used a translator and sometimes changes the words
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Rom Havoc is perfect all works also hotspot [emoji106]. Just this problems with ram management... on stock config.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Yes that is my opinion too. I hope that issue will be resolved in next build.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
With 18 apps in background and zram magisk module - gcam fails to run...(on Havoc-OS). With more ram I thing phone would work still fast. But it is not bad - our moto is 3 years old phone. I am going to try 2.0 kernel now - in 3.x I will miss interactiveX governor - best for balance between power and battery life.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
I think you're going to miss it even more because 3.0 doesn't come with it (It makes the phone run laggy, even if it's not enabled). But I'm planning to add more governors so there will be some variety
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Ok can't wait, for full 3.0 kernel and next rom builds. Havoc-OS with 2.0 kernel works stable and fast.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
I'm sorry to say that it will be my last kernel for this device, I got a Google pixel :(
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
3a or 3, thinking about it or Xiaomi 9T Pro but still like Moto [emoji854]

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
The google pixel 2016, 128gb version!! I can't buy recent phones here in my country, no way I could have money for that + I'm paying my career xD
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Stupid Tapatalk grr... Doubled my posts. So pixel 2016 is series no 2 yes, ok. I change phone usually after 3-4 years, once changed phone after year it was on Mediatek cpu it made me crazy [emoji2957].

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] avirupz:
And also last rom build?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Congrats mate I hope you enjoy using your new phone, but this is sad news for us to losing your continued support.

Anyway I want you to know that, last day I tried to clean flashing Pixel Experience with installing your kernel 2.0 after flashing Pixel ROM and the results was amazing very good performance no lags and good battery life, of course in addition to the wonderful Pixel ROM.

I hope you would provide us with a monthly security update for this ROM till the end of this year only as TeamMex might get us the Q.

Thanks again for your support.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
Well, that's right, I'll keep Pixel Experience updated also because now my mom is using my MZP and I want to keep her system updated as well.

My telegram username is "ArtxDev" - If you guys need help in something pm me :)
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
You're so kind man :) thanks

Kernel v. 2.0 is legendary :) I hope 3.0 will have interactiveX governor it's amazing.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
On Havoc-OS artx kernel 2.0 with governor interactivex also have no lags ( but need do disble zram magisk module - with it lags ).
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] KubiGR:
You found zram option or 2.0 better with havoc-os?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
2.0 better
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Subhransu:
What about evolution X??
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
Uploaded last pre-release of kernel 3.0 (This is the one I used for my latest ROM builds), this version has support for Treble or GSI, I'm almost done with the full release of version 3.0, sorry for the delay :)

Edit: That last pre-release is "v3.021"
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
I'll check it imedietly ;)

Update ::

My opinion latest kernel works better than before (stock settings) , but user experience still is not as good as kernel 2.0 give us . 3.0.21 is visible slower than 2.0 also big apps loads way longer than on 2.0 . ( I am on Havoc still ) . With more than 10 apps in background phone got slowdown .

So there is progress , maybe 2.0 kernel is too good ;) Or maybe PixelExperience has better optimalisation.

[MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION] - why Adaptive Low Memory Killer is not enabled by default - it helps a lot ? (I have 18 apps in background now ,with ALMK enabled and phone is responsive - slower a bit but usable ) . Maybe only Havoc need that I don't know .
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] badflife:
Are the gapps Really included in the pixel experience Rom?

I just want the pico package I don't want the rest of the gapps like Google calendar or Google search.

Thanks.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] dawidrejowski:
Yes, PixelExperience incluses gapps, beacuse it's Pixel experience
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
My advice is to stay on build-in gapps . I flahsed on it accdentialy pico package and rom went crazy ....
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] badflife:
Of course.

If gapps are preinstalled then it wouldn't be a good idea to flash another gapps package.

I'd have to deactivate the gapps I don't need then.

Or is it possible to deinstall them normally without using apps like titanium?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
New problem (Havoc-OS) sometimes when phone is disconected from charger after full recharge it hung up - only restart bring it to live. Happend to me 2 or 3 times. (kerenel 3.x.x).
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] DarkLey:
Is anyone else having trouble with provider signal weakening or "No SIM Inserted" randomly appearing during regular use? This is the only issue I have with PixelExperience latest. My provider is Brazilian, but with XPerience ROMs I always got decent signal and no random disconnection of the SIM card. Does anyone know how to solve it? Maybe flashing a stock modem from Oreo? Thanks in advance
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
What pixel experience build you use?

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] DarkLey:
Latest arm64 PixelExperience (13/08/2019), from Stayn's MEGA folder https://mega.nz/#F!DpRllKAZ!KA-R1sglnLCgP1s9YzJ3Ew
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] KubiGR:
I am using pixel experience from today and my signal is fine, both call and internet. Everything stock for now.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
It's happened twice to me then I switched the network to be 3G not LTE and now everything is OK.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
I tested the last kernel 3.0.21 on Pixel Experience and I do agree with you mate it's better than the previous builds, but it's making my apps open slower than kernel v. 2.0 and my phone take a bit long time to reboot.

In addition to I noticed that my WiFi has been lost after installing the new kernel and I have to disable and re-enable it to get work.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] DarkLey:
[MENTION=5151077]KubiGR[/MENTION] Mine oscilates through the day, and if I turn airplane mode off and on again, it stops detecting the SIM card at all ("No SIM inserted)

[MENTION=8071812]Rashad79[/MENTION] I changed it and it's been better for a while, but I do have a 4g data plan. Should I change it back sometime?

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[/COLOR [MENTION=5151077]KubiGR[/MENTION] Mine oscilates through the day, and if I turn airplane mode off and on again, it stops detecting the SIM card at all ("No SIM inserted)

[MENTION=8071812]Rashad79[/MENTION] I changed it and it's been better for a while, but I do have a 4g data plan. Should I change it back sometime?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Try EvolutionX if you like pixel feel. Never had problems with sim detection on this roms.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] KubiGR:
Now on havoc-os again because pixel experience + kernel 3.021 or then 2.0 gave me a bootloop. Indeed when I you airplane mode, sim card is lost and I need to reboot.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] DarkLey:
[MENTION=2134415]sebx_g1[/MENTION] no dice with Evolution X. Same behavior

Those two things are really what bothers me about this awesome ROM: poor signal when on 4G (I didnt have this with Stock Oreo or XPerience) and airplane mode making the SIM disappear. The second one I can live with, but the first one is really problematic.. Any suggestions? Maybe trying the Stock Oreo modem for the Brazilian model?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] KubiGR:
[MENTION=4574456]DarkLey[/MENTION] I have tested Potato rom also and the airplane mode problem is still there (sim card not detected after airplane mode). Seems like a general problem for all roms. I still get ok signal on 4G and less

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[/COLOR [MENTION=4574456]DarkLey[/MENTION] I have tested Potato rom also and the airplane mode problem is still there (sim card not detected after airplane mode). Seems like a general problem for all roms. I still get ok signal on 4G and less
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] irekj:
Stayn, I love your work and much appreciated. Just a question, is this Kernel implemented in your LOS16 build? I am using it now, it seems to be smoother than the previous May version, by other forum member. Just wondering, thank you.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] cobolmx:
same here

I notice when i pressed the airplane then sim gone btw im using havoc, after i rebooted the phone pressing several times the airplane mode it came back, i used pixel experience no issues but better perfomance in havocs
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
I was forced to return to stock Havoc kernel(I restored rom full backup) due to bootloop after gapps update, and strange thing happened. Rom started to work very fast... faster than on 2.0 kernel and with still moderate battery use [emoji15].

More I use android I less understand it [emoji23].

I noticed that I have now enabled magisk module zram + adaptive low memory killer via kernel auditor.

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
I returned back to Xpe 13, it's the fastest 64bit ROM I have been using, New 64bit ROMs are terrific but they're not smooth nor fast as Xpe 13 and I'm sure that's because the ROMs themselves not kernel or any other modifications.

Anyway now we have a lot of options to choose from ?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] KubiGR:
Yeah I did the same. XPE 13 doesn't have any SIM problems and even with default kernel and just zram and LMK it's faster than any other room here. I think that the roms here are really good and fresh looking but require more work.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Light OT - anyone with big problems with Tapatalk since 3 days- it almost don't work for me :/

I use now xda app.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Rashad79:
Xda website and app had problems 3 days ago and xda fixed the problems one by one and still there are some functions not working specially in the website. that's might why you still have problems using Tapatalk.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
I'm sorry to dissapoint all of you guys but I cannot continue development on this device because mine is now inusable (Screen was broken since a month or two, now, it randomly stopped working completely). Thanks for the feedback and help tho, was a pleasure to work with/for y'all.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
Sad news :/ Thx, and good luck .
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] rafaelfurt:
Seriously? Not even after September build being released?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] sebx_g1:
[MENTION=7713645]Stayn[/MENTION] just FYI kernel 3.0.21 works correctly in gsi config [emoji846]

I must say 3.021 kernel works better in gsi config ,than non gsi -- it is quite unsuall I think .

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[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] cristianodk:
What ROM do you recommend to use this kernel?

Thank you
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] AZ82:
Wireguard integration

Does this kernel contains Wireguard module? E.g. Wireguard for Android will work in kernel mode, not in userspace?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] manfred18:
Thank you for your work! I still love Pixel Experience.

Can you leave your files on MEGA?

One more question: should I use normal TWRP or unofficial (arm64) twrp for your roms?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
Yes

Use whatever TWRP you like, all my files are on MEGA and kernel source, device tree, etc, on my github :)
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] manfred18:
Thank you. ExperienceX is the best rom from you I've ever tested.

At last autofocus with moto camera works. None of the roms provided it.

With kernel 3.0 and ZRAM it works quite stable.
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] giagos_drakos:
Hello,

I am trying to use the kernel with Pixel Experience rom. The rom boots and works normally, however on the ''Android Version'' the kernel version shown is 3.18.120 even after I flashed the Artx v2.0.

Any idea on how to fix this?
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] Stayn:
There is nothing wrong with it, that's just the Kernel version
[Moto Z Play ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other Dev] [Legenda]:
Hello there,

I'm using AOSP 9 ROM everything works fine.

Is it really useful to install this kernel with my ROM?

Thanks ?