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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Yeah I noticed that, 3 major issues for me personally, most lenses were soft and out of focus, you could point the main sensor at the same image and you can see it struggling back and forth with focus, this is not a point and shoot issue more poor implementation on hwaweis part, the front camera imo is terrible no focus whatsoever, and a 1080p screen for £900 also in a flagship is also not acceptable and it just looked washed out to me, text not clear, i expect this kind of behaviour with a one plus phone as they are cheaper, tried multiple shots comparing to my pixel 2 and the pixel 2 was far more natural and sharper whether or not pixel peeping, such a shame because asthetically it was perfect but looks doesn't constitute something i can live with when there are other pretty major issues.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shaunydub:
Personally I think the screen is fine an 1080p is enough.

Coming from Honor View 10 which is also 1080p I can see a big improvement in colour, vibrancy and clarity.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nickporwal:
I had pixel 3... I feel the cameras are fine compared to pixel. Front camera is very soft though. Night camera is much better than pixel.

Screen is also good enough. Text looks sharp and colors are much better than pixel 2 at least. Pixel 2 had problem of crushing black colors.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
I'll be honest i tried many pictures in mid light and every single one came out with less detail than my pixel 2 xl, in very bright outdoor light they looked pretty sharp and detailed, this is documented in quite a few reviews, i do agree the proper night shots in very low light ate better than the pixel but normal light shots are not this has been noted in reviews also, the front camera is horrible, i have no Idea why they have added that camera with no focus, it's beyond me, it's gone back to currys,

The other fault i could not live with was every time the device was rebooted auto brightness also switched itself on again, that is a ridiculous long standing bug on hwawei phones that they seem to have no intention of fixing, good luck with the phone hope you enjoy it.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
I think the auto brightness thing is a feature rather than a bug - eg if you live in a very sunny country and you accidentally turn the brightness too low, you can force reboot the device.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
I'd say it's hwawei passing it off as a feature, personally i don't want to be controlled by hwawei as i don't by apple, why have that switch there if it doesn't actually work? I have a fixed brightness which I'm sure many others do to, not too bad if you have a percentage bar for brightness as does the pixel but the p30 does not it's just a slider, just another annoying thing that should be controllable by the user not the manufacturer, if that happened on tvs everytime they were switched on there would be uproar.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] isko01:
Macro mod with zoom or just optical x5 zoom?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] giwta:
Macro mode without zoom.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] glogu:
About the screen - for me it's great (except the huge battery drain and auto brightness that is always too bright). See no difference between this and other flagship phones i've looked at (i'm not checking under magnifying glass ;) But.. there's a post on XDA which states that P30 pro screens are made by 2 different manufacturers. Not Samsung. LG and someone else. So maybe one of them is worse and the other is better? I read some complaints about the screen, and looking at it at the moment I really can't tell anything bad about the display quality at all.

About the cameras... Yesterday i shot a portrait on Hasselblad and on p30pro. The phone is good enough to use it for real photography. But not in JPG mode - it's over processed with huge amount of NR that makes this "cheap digital look" that i hate.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WM_Rizzo:
Tried a couple of night shots last night (night mode), and they were pure crap. Guess they really did mess something in the first update.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
I still have my P30 Pro, and I'm still not 100% sure whether to keep it or not. I actually really like the hardware but no matter how many times people tell me the camera is brilliant, I just haven't seen it yet.

There seems to be a default couple of responses to P30 Pro criticism on here:

"It's meant for pro photographers to use and isn't designed for point and shoot. If you want that, get a Pixel"

Or

"The Pixel takes better photographs in the right light but the P30 Pro has more flexibility - for example, zoom and night mode".

In response to statement one, even if this is true (and I honestly doubt that anyone with real photography ambitions would be wasting too much of their time on a phone) why should being a 'photography phone' and having the capability to take the best auto shots be mutually exclusive? Can't a phone be as good as a Pixel or iPhone for snapshots on the fly but *also* a good 'pro' style phone? If it can't be the best at both then this (IMHO) presents doubts as to the ability of Huawei's camera team as far as processing, calibration and AI. I shouldn't have to process a DNG in Lightroom to get a better photo than the Pixel of a person stood in front of a bar holding a beer.

For point two: sure it has some flexibility. In all honesty I would like a Pixel to have a wide angle camera, as this is genuinely useful. Telephoto cameras are always poor quality compared to the main sensors, and I almost never use them on either Samsungs, iPhones or Huaweis.

I've tested the 'zoom' lens on the P30 Pro quite a few times since I bought it though and I really think that the results are quite heavily processed with a serious lack of dynamic range and some pretty bad light fringing. I don't think I will use this camera very much at all after a few months of 'playing'.

As for night mode - when did people suddenly need to take photos of a church in pitch black? These photos are what I call the 'Speedtest.net Effect': you only really use it to see what it can do. It's not necessarily a valid part of the camera arsenal as you don't actually need it; besides which, you can't capture moving subjects with it, so the best thing to to do is either use the flash (seriously, they exist), or photograph the subject in decent lighting. There are some examples of neon cityscapes that look kind of cool when taken in a night mode but for me photography is about taking pictures of my life and the people around me, and so far I'm finding the P30 Pro to be a bit of a disappointment in this regard.

Maybe to really appreciate the P30 Pro you need to be a single reviewer, flying from city to city with nothing to photograph but buildings on the phone (which was given to you for nothing).
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Mate i completely agree with every point, i loved the speed of the thing and the design is excellent, but my priority in a phone is the quality of the camera not how many lenses it has because in truth they will make less effort with more lenses as it's too much time consuming not to mention to cut costs they will be cheaper lenses than what Google uses for example.

People will disagree with you about the camera but I'm 100% confident it's extremely disappointing, it normal shots it's every single shot worse than my pixel with 1 lense, yes people will rave about the fixed 5x optical zoom that you can't go to 4x or 6x times because it's not optical at all, it's fixed, if i want 40x true optical I'll get my canon out of it's case.

Just because the manufacturer says "Rewrite the rules of photography" does not mean it's true, but you will get the sheep who will believe that just because hwawei said.

And as like you say it's for a pro photographer and use a pixel for point and shoot, then they are wrong, any camera should focus and take the best shot that hardware can in normal daylight scenes which the camera on the p30 pro could not do no matter how many shots i took, i was extremely disappointed with the camera and cannot wait for the pixel 4 xl, that i guarantee will take a good clear shot, with no unnatural colours or blurriness or out of focus shots every single time, good luck if you keep it but i was disappointed with it.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salemsayed:
I can confirm the criticism to the cameras on the p30p, I have one for about a week now and any photos with human faces in it absolutely sucks even compared to my 8 plus. I love everything else about that phone except the camera and that's deal breaker for me :/
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Vihru:
we need spam huawei to update p30 pro camera..
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
Or just return the camera if you're that unhappy with it. I upgraded from an S8+, and I can see the improvements in image quality (especially in low-light). Maybe it's how I take my photos, or the shots I take, but I'm happy with the results and many others are. You can't discount that just because the photos you take are bad.

Again, there's something in having the best image quality, but I'd argue that nobody who really cared about IQ would use a phone and not an actual camera. The P30 lets you take shots from a much wider range of perspectives. And that's a win for me. I find it extremely annoying when people talk about what they want and what kind of photos they take, then completely disregard what others need. Who are you to say people can't take landscape or city shots for fun?

Here's a portrait of my friend looking like sh!t.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
Finished my P30 Pro review and part of that is the photo gallery which has 150+ stunning photos.

https://youtu.be/R92DaEs8IdQ
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Magnus3D:
I have been pushing the P30 Pro sensors a bit and also my post processing to get even better quality results than before. Here are a few concert photo examples i've shot recently.

/ Magnus
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] freakozoid:
Festival :)
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cardozclive:
Check out my clicks.

Huawei p30 pros camera is the best I feel
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mangaboy190:
Wow, these shots looks amazing! Did you use telephoto or the main one? IMO it looks great, but how do you feel with the photos you take?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Hybrid Soldier:
In your opinion, which smartphone has the best camera nowadays?

I came from a S9+ with Gcam and I'm also really disappointed with my P30 PRO.

Isn't that's a bad camera, but isn't what they announce.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Bwyan Benton:
Taken in Niagara Falls using wide angle lens. Edited in Lightroom mobile.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Magnus3D:
mangaboy: Thank you very much! :) for those shots i used the 5x tele lens and i obviously shot them all in RAW and then processed them. I'm not having many issues with it except the somewhat slow'ish autofocus when shooting moving subjects using the 5x tele lens. Besides that the quality is stunning for a mobile phone camera as you can see. The important part is to shoot RAW and to take the time to process the files as necessary. The quality is so much better from the DNG files than it is if you shoot only jpeg's. I have even done some commercial photography with my P30 Pro, and clients had no idea my photos came from a phone camera. :)

/ Magnus
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] BadPotato:
I'm loving the camera on this so far, only had the phone for a week.

I didn't think I'd use the zoom but it's been great! Got this photo of a koala that was quite far away!

Everyone else trying to take pictures were really jealous because they couldn't even see it!
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DenisGuy:
Can anyone upload a RAW file? I'd like to see it in action in Lightroom....Thanks
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ama212:
Hello
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhari:
Edited?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DenisGuy:
An unedited DNG file? Please? Anyone?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cardozclive:
There you go

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-sOYeVI_y1DdluhAqsPir8yfUb4g_jkE/view?usp=drivesdk

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Can you share those shots of your commercial photography
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DenisGuy:
Hi, thanks very much for the image!

Do you know why it's a 20 MP image? I'm confused... I thought it was a 40 MP phone...??

EDIT: I know the answer. You took the pic close to your leg so the phone chose to use the 20 MP wide angle sensor. Do you think you could send me a photo of something that's far away? Maybe something outside your window? Thanks again!
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Bwyan Benton:
Geez...you're starting to sound creepy

Lol jk.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] DenisGuy:
Dunno, all I need is a 40 mp DNG file.... anyone?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cardozclive:
There you go mate:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/108BNZhlkgOp3ABRdoIgCJbhiLE6VDVk5/view?usp=drivesdk

Hope this will do
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Merciix3:
I heard that at the beginning the pictures take with the P30 Pro had a green tint to them or that the reds were mostly closer to a orange.. were this issues fixed through updates? Are the colors better now?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] felipy2k:
does anyone knows how to get rid of the ultra wide angle lens distortion? is there any native way like one plus 7 pro does?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] madjester67:
Lens flare (what a let down)

For me the P20 pro was possibly one of the best camera phones out there,so I upgraded to the P30 pro thinking this will be amazing.

Have a look at the amount of lens flare on the P30 pro compared to the P20 Pro,

Took it to a Huawei service center and they claim it's possibly the latest update 9.1.0.185 software.

Also can't roll back the update so I am stuck and Huawei don't seem to care.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Hybrid Soldier:
There is no comparing because you used two different modes to take these photos, just take a look at the P20 photo, it's totally tremulous.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] samlis:
Hi :) very well seen:good:
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] madjester67:
Your reply is mute,both shots taking in night mode and in the same conditions.

Huaweii store is putting it down to firmware and been told to wait until an update comes out.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Manson79:
Hi,

A few pics, just point and shoot (first is in macro mode), no pro mode:
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fgar82:
Hi how was ur experience with the camera on the p? Thinking selling my S10+ for it ? Is it worth it ?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] polumish:
Nightly shots
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
I really recommend using Pro mode for daily use as the HDR in Photo is terrible and ruins every single shot.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cardozclive:
Sorry a bit offtopic but since this is about the camera I thought this would the right place to ask to get a quick response.

Is anyone still on emui 9.1?

If yes then please can you check if the camera app had 40mp mode in aperture mode, night mode and portrait mode?

In EMUI 10 it is limited to 10mp in each of these modes.

See video below[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/dsDrbNJXYgU[/YOUTUBE]
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
You can only shoot at 40MP in Photo/Pro modes. I think there's too much processing in the other modes to be done at 40MP resolution.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] cardozclive:
Macro mode
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Some advice to avoid the yellow tint of superspectrum sensor? It's difficult to correct even in postproduction
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salemsayed:
Nothing seems to works really, but I only notice it when shooting indoors with artificial light.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
This is an outdoor shot, the car should be white
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salemsayed:
Still under artificial light. It's only better in daytime. But yeah the colors not so good overall.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
I'm seriously thinking of making a return to amazon and going back to oneplus (especially now that there is 7t at an affordable price with wide-angle)
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salemsayed:
Yeah or the Mate 20 Pro, it doesn't have that RYYB sensor.

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Or even the new Pixels, that's really the best. Also the P30 Pro messes with the skin tones A LOT. I've gotten used to it but I never really liked the camera, the phone on the other hand is really good and that's why I'm keeping it.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Yes It could be a very good alternative, expecially at that price. But I am wondering if it could be better a oneplus with gcam or mate 20 pro. Oneplus 3t with gcam can compete with modern high end device.

Even zoom on lowlight conditions is so much better on 3t with gcam because most of the time p30 pro crop from main sensor
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
LMAO if you think even the human eyes see the car as pure white under that yellow street lamp.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] ZayaanAhyaan:
What i've mostly noticed is in artificial lighting, the sensors somehow lean heavily towards any sort of yellow light around and turn the whole pic yellowish, even red lighting displays similar result at times.

My quick fix for this is just take a pic in pro mode (auto pro mode settings) but if the yellow source is strong, then only way to correct is manually tuning white balance. I doubt there's any fix for this due to the sensors RYYB configuration.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
I don't know how many of you have received the .224 update but I am seeing that the camera has deteriorated absurdly. With little light it no longer sees anything, the digital zoom takes out black photos with lowlight, In addition, the night mode has worsened a lot, in addition to the slowness dictating press the button when it starts to take the picture, it gets darker than an automatic photo.I would have done well to take oneplus again. It is not possible that from the beginning of August we are without updates and the first that arrives after months breaks everything
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JoVo007:
Mi 8 with GCam takes outstanding images. Often better than P30 Pro (i have both), especially regarding detail/sharpness and also neutral colours. And, of course, for selfies which are really, really bad on the Huawei.

The P30 Pro still is better in very low light conditions and of course much better for zoom (the last is the reason I'm keeping it..)
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JoVo007:
Yes, white balance and generally colours often are way off on artificial light.

Pro mode with the white balance manually set to bulb or turned to the coldest possible value helps there.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Not really, in Pro modes to u can get slightly better result changing the "exposure metering" to spot center... But in any case, not convincing result.

You can also change white balance to the minimum but the scene will stay yellowish

The thing is that since 2013/14 I had Nexus 5, OnePlus one and OnePlus 3t. For all of them together I spent less than I spent only for p30 pro, and never been such disappointed.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
This was taken on my standard P30 just now in auto photo mode (AI enabled), but our street-lights are white LED, not those older orange type
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] nickluck:
I see them white too. Are you sure you're not reviewing the picture with blue light filter on (given it's taken at night)?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Blu filter would give effect of vignetting
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
No, what I mean is I am not seeing the orange tint with streetlights, but probably because they are LED/White streetlights

If we still had those orange ones I'd probably have the same problem as others
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Yes, look at this other sample (I can't even correct by Photoshop...). It is clear from the license plate of the car that it should be withe painted...)
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
I understand you are having this problem, what I was saying is that I do not have this issue because of the different type of streetlights

Not sure what colour the car was, but you can just lower the Yellow saturation using Lightroom
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Yes, I understood
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
It's very hard to correct WB of a jpeg.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Thats very good correction, do you use lightroom on PC or Android? Look at this other sample
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
I used the PC version for the car, but it works just as well with the Android version

Attached version done with Android (Just lowered yellow saturation again)
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] delpinsky:
I just bought the P30 Pro and this thing of the wrong colors...is driving me mad ?

How is it possible that Huawei engineers didn't even noticed it in first place?! OK the sensor is RYYB to capture more light, but they should have done a color correction built in camera. I thought they had fixed it in one of the latest firmware updates. Pointing the phone at night to the sidewalk and seeing a lot of yellow light reflected, when in real life is just orange and very dim, it's depressing.

The phone works great, but the camera can't take wrong colors...I just can't believe it. Let's hope they will fix it with Android 10, which I will install tonight.

I'm close to regretting my old Lumia 950 XL, which is still great in the photo department.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] fards:
I'm finding the camera really disappointing.. Blodges of colour where my poco records texture

Insanely high jpeg compression.poor edge detection

These are things I'd expect from a cheap phone (and I've fixed exactly these issues in a few phones)

It's not rocket science to get the matrix right for the lenses (the 5x zoom lenses is spot on) and get libjpeg working properly. But as it's not possible to unlock it never mind no source code. It's not going to happen
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Leoxur:
Boys put your soul at peace, the p30 pro's camera is the most disappointing aspect. Starting from the fact that each camera interprets colors in its own way, it is incredible how much noise wide angle produces.The fact of the yellow tint is not solvable except with lightroom, unfortunately shooting in vivid mode loads the colors too much and amplifies the negative effect even more. Deactivating the AI ​​is useful when photographing food (at least in my case I saw that the food turns yellow too).

In all the other scenes the thing that most can help is the method of measuring the exposure (there are 3 of them, you have to shoot in pro mode to change it).

The white balance is useless, instead of working on white (hot or cold) it seems to work on the yellow balance (hot / cold) that go to match from a lemon yellow (coldest) to fiery red (hottest)