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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
Root already happened but there's no "user friendly" method yet, and not many benefits currently.

Keep in mind that Root is losing importance, it peaked around 2014 but the various hostility from banking apps or paying solutions contributed in reducing root users, some employers also don't allow you to have a rooted devices because of the vulnerabiities it comes with.

Magisk Hide was great but hit or miss on different devices.

[MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION] rooted his own S10+, you can try to contact him for testing if you like, he's doing an awesome job.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
XDA is quite trippy today, my post got submitted twice please delete.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
thread should be moved. this is not a release.

and again people asking for root should ask themselves if they bought the wrong phone:

a north American model.

will probably never be rootable(the U, U1 and W are all the same and have a locked bootloader)

the rest of the world's s10's will be rootable. its 100% sure. just need someone to get recovery to be flashable.

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ask a mod to move your post/thread.

also read up on what's the difference between the north american modela and the international ones.

then realise the folly of your question/purchase.

:cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] nugzo:
This is one reason why exynos and snapdragon should be separated. No one gives enough info when posting ANYTHING about what version of S10 they have when they are inquiring about whatever they are inquiring about. It makes all the difference in the world. They are essentially two DIFFERENT phones. Why lump them together. The only thing they really share is a name. The internals are different phones. Nothing firmware wise interchanges. Since the mods wont separate the phones in the forums, everyone should mention what S10 they are asking questions about if you want the correct answer.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VinDiesel69:
I have been here for the past 8 years my old acct somehow got hacked..and all the phones I have had were possible to be rooted, including s7, s8, s9, note 4, etc..For someone to say never hasn't been on here enough although Exynos is way easier to root than snapdragons but is it possible? of course, can it happen? in a couple months. In today's society you don't really need to root your phone as companies are making their phones fully customizable
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Neodrox:
I second this, before root was such a necessity to me, in my OP5t I was using it mostly for Titanium backup, on my S10+ I think it is not needed, it is much cleaner to be setting up your device from scratch preventing corrupted app settings to mess with the phone.

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I believe root is extremely important if you are a heavy ROM user and like to install several ROM for testing then I would suggest you to have to have root to make nandroid backups and have Titanium Backup, otherwise really not needed you expose yourself to vulnerabilities.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] galaxys:
Root and XDA = Development! Rock on ???
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Eudeferrer:
Root is not just for mods. On my Pixel 3Xl, I tweak my kernel with FK manager to get better battery, more efficient memory usage and better CPU rendering. It's also nice to use apps like 3minit battery mod, system-wide Adaway, Titanium Backup and many others. While Samsung has improved on ways to Mod parts of it's phones, these mods are not available systemwide in 3rd party apps. For me, root is essential.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] cpufrost:
This
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
Eudeferrer took the words right off my keyboard. His points are exactly why I have always rooted. And besides all of the vital things Eudeferrer mentioned above, for you guys who think we don't need to root anymore, please explain to me how to put the 1600 fonts file, I normally use, on my new S10+. Because it was as simple as can be on my rooted S7 edge. But can't find a way to put these fonts on my S10+. And I absolutely hate the few fonts that Samsung ALLOWS us to use. Seems really stupid, that we pay over a $1000 for a device, and they limit what we can put on them... Also, I'm tired of having ads pop up on my phone, not in my browser, but right on my phone!!!!! This NEVER happens to rooted devices. Which the underlying MOST important reason to root is TOTAL CONTROL OF OUR DEVICES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] GreyFox777:
for the root!!! No root = no smartphone!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VinDiesel69:
It all comes down to preferences. Only reason why our phones doesn't come out of the box rooted is because it’s an inherent security risk..I have never had any issues with the battery not lasting long enough, low on memory, cpu overheating and there goes the saying..don't fix what isn't broken..As for backups? In today's phone standards backup is stored in apple's icloud or google's server, no need to use a 3rd party app. As for ads and custom status bar? you don't need to have your phone rooted for these. There are plenty of modded apps floating around that disables the ads. Don't get me wrong, I used to be a flashaholic back in the days when I had the htc hd, nexus 4, using NRGZ28's energy roms, there was just a point that I really didn't need to do all that. It is time consuming. Rooting android just isn't worth it anymore. Back in the day rooting android was almost a must in order to get advanced functionality out of your phone but times have changed. One thing I can say is that a lot of things has changed throughout the years and a lot of people lost interest in rooting their phones and have left this website. Look at the pixel 2, 3 xl forums and now compare them to the nexus 4 and 5 forums. You will see the difference..
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Eudeferrer:
I beg to disagree with you. This is the same excuse I often see people giving when they are stuck on a device that can't be rooted. They become complacent. The bottom line is, YOU pay for your phone. It should be YOUR choice to root or not. It's YOUR device not theirs. Take the inherent risk if you want to, or not. Everyone who roots understand this risk and takes it willingly. We are not in a communist country to have someone (Samsung or Phone company) tell you how your phone has to look or what you can do with it (as long as it's legal and not hurting others). It's this brain-washing nonsense that never makes sense to me. Android backups on Google cloud DO NOT save data for most apps. For someone like me with over 200 apps installed, this is a pain every time you get a new phone. It's either sit there for hours and log in individually to every app or run Titanium Backup and in 15 minutes you are done. Don't but hit me over the head, but to me the choice is obvious and more than clear. Perhaps if Android ever evolves to there point where you can control these things on your end, then root will truly be unnecessary.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] hella356:
I've been running rooted Android phones since the HTC HD2, even ran custom ROMs on the T-Mobile Dash before Android existed. The S10e is by far the closest thing to a non-rooted phone I could live with. I would agree that the urgency for root is less than it used to be, but is still very much needed for many of us. I gave the SD855 version a chance, but after a week as my daily driver, I'm returning it & reverting back to my rooted S7. Once the new Exynos models get stable TWRP/root/etc., I'll pick up the G970F, but despite the improvements over three years, I still prefer my rooted S7 to a stock S10e.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] cmexec:
Agreed! Another valuable reason for having the option to root is "freedom" - e.g. you don't have to rely on the phone/OS provider to store all your private data on their backup repository (however incomplete the data they store might be) and hold you ransom because they have what you need, and could have stored locally on your own device. I still haven't been able to fully restore my apps since changing from a Pixel 2XL to a S10+.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
What ads? there's no completely random ads like on Xiaomi's "YOUR PHONE IS VIRUS PLS SCAN" if you see any sort of advertising in Samsung apps it's because you agreed to it, go back and opt out of marketing information.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
Man, sorry to be a ****, but you are just confused. I've been rooting phones for a very long time, and I have NEVER suffered any security problems. Rooting is NOT an inherent security risk. That is some crap that the manufacturers made up, and the sheep follow their instructions and believe everything they say. And while you must be some ridiculous aberration, MOST people have had terrible problems with battery life, lagging and the such. That's why they rooted! To be able to control the processor, gpu and memory. And why would you depend on the backup of Google or CRapple??? They are ALWAYS crap, and never give you back your setup. AND THERE ARE NOT PLENTY OF NON-ROOT APPS WHICH DISABLE ADS. There are plenty of "BROWSER" apps which help with ads. But what about the ads popping up on the phone itself??? NONE!!! And I see you completely ignored my question about FONTS!!! How the hell do I pay over a $1,000.00 dollars for a device, and THEY DICTATE TO ME WHAT FONT I CAN USE????? We own the phones, not them. So Rooting IS still worth it, and a much better situation than having a non-rooted phone. NO non-rooted app allows you to customize your device, or gives you the control over your device the way rooting it does. Being able to put any one of 1600 fonts on my device, USING TITANIUM BACKUP TO EXECUTE AN EXACT BACKUP OF MY SYSTEM, changing the color of ANYTHING I care to, getting rid of ANY app I don't want on the phone, being able to tweak the hardware to MY satisfaction and having system wide Adaway that works flawlessly are just a few of the reasons to root your device. And if you can't see this, than just get used to saying, "bahhhh bahhhh". Because you've joined the flock of the GIANT CORPORATION!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
why is this thread still going.

just buy your selves a rootable phone and stop repeating the same mistakes.

samsung has 2 models:

-a rootable international version that comes in the exynos and snapdragon variants of processors.( root should come shortly)

-and a locked bootloader version for the neolithic north american market.it comes only in the SD variant under what usually prod codes that finish with a U, U1 or W in canada(ie: G97?U ,G97?U1 ,G97?W)

(root will probably never come on these NA models, nothing new been lime this for years, please also dont mistaken unlockable bootlaoder with unlockable phone. the ladder just means its not tied to a carrier and nothing more, its BL is still locked regardless.)

so stop playing the victim and buy the phone that works for you.

hers an analogy:

you need to cross a river, which method of transportation do you take?:

- a 1000 pound rock

- a canoe

this ain't rocket science.... do yourselves a favor and get the damn canoe and stop complaining.

if you dont have the cash upfront to buy the proper cell phone, then stop whining when the one you get from the carrier on a 2 year term contract is not rootable because yeah the real folly here is singing a contract for a phone you dont like. People, do your homework first instead of venting here on the mistake you did by buying the north american version.

the others on here complaining about wanting root right now( they have the proper rootable international version) and cant wait, your vanity needs only to wait abit if your skills dont allow you to root it your self. its just a question of time for twrp to be easily flashable. root was already confirmed by topjohnwoo ( magisk creator) a while ago.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
The SD 845 was rooted on the S9's, so what would make you think that the 855 won't be???
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] cmexec:
I'm certainly not complaining... I have the international Exynos S10+ (sourced from the UK) using on T-Mobile US and it's working good thus far. Just waiting patiently for when there's possibility to root it to do even more with the device.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
my point exactly: homework.

now go do yours.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VinDiesel69:
That's a strawman argument; you're yanking around the target that you're aiming at. You are entitled to your own opinion. A lot of people stopped caring and you are still the 01% of android users that still care about rooting.

You can't even imagine what an app can do with root access. Those people that have had battery problems most likely had a faulty phone. There are many ways to improve battery life, ****, even Samsung has a setting already integrated into their software to have auto optimization, which apps are using the most battery usage, etc. Apple as well. what ADS are you talking about that popup on the phone? You gotta quit watching p**n on your phone kid. That will fix it. There are a lot of phones on the Samsung store which allows you to choose from 1k fonts. As for getting rid of apps, you can manually disable them. What year you think we are in dude? Again who cares about using titanium backup? It is not like you are changing phones every month. Android 4.0+ have a built in full backup that requires to adb. You can restore your backup using titanium backup without being rooted. System ui tunner allows you to customize your status bar and many other apps allow you to do some more like good lock, etc..Seriously you haven't built up a good argument as to why rooting in 2019 is still worth it. You haven't been on here long enough to know how rooting was important back in the days.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Eudeferrer:
I doubt you understand what you are talking about. I don't think I'm on the top 01% of people who own phones just because I want root. Just look at the forums for EVERY new phone that comes out and how people can't wait till it's rooted! The busiest thread is usually about.... You guessed it....root. Heck...just look at the name of this thread! I don't think most people stopped caring about root. It's just that they resigned themselves to live without it because of how hard phone makers have made it on their latest phones. Yes. It's. Less needed now due to several cheap options on moding they have implemented (which are incomplete and substandard to root options). But no. It's not obsolete or just for geeks. There is still a very vibrant community out there that loves root and wants root on the phones they paid for and feel they should own completely.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VICosPhi:
Does it backup app+data including private folder? How does one restore it to a non-rooted phone using Titanium backup? Thought Titanium Backup requires root access to be able to restore any backups.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Eudeferrer:
I have tried backing up using adb and for some reason always failed on multiple phones. Unfortunately for Android, NOTHING works as easy or efficiently as Titanium Backup. The backups I've always done using ADB either fail while being made, or fail during recovery, or many apps just fail to completed the process. This is never an issue with Titanium. As far as I'm aware Titanium requires root or it won't even start up.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VICosPhi:
Absolutely right! I have had the same experience. NOTHING works like Titanium backup. ADB backup either fails or fails to backup all the selected apps/data. And yes Titanium will not work without root. I was asking the other poster how they are able to get it to work as I would very much like to know!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] cmexec:
VinDiesel69 said, "Android 4.0+ have a built in full backup that requires to adb. You can restore your backup using titanium backup without being rooted." Genuine question: Can you please explain how to do this?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VinDiesel69:
Sure just follow the link below

How to make your first backup WITHOUT root:

GUIDE
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] cmexec:
It was a hunch, but that's not surprising...:D
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Eudeferrer:
Didn't lead to anything related to backup/recovery without root.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] cmexec:
That was my point. This clown doesn't know how to "backup" what he's arguing about.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] VICosPhi:
He is just another uninformed person and that comment he made is incorrect, once again we all can confirm that ROOT is REQUIRED for a proper backup/restore and Titanium backup definitely requires it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
funny enough, as of late, i have been finding myself using the google restore feature.

some data even gets restored too!

i still keep a tibu backup just in case. but i mainly use it to manage apps more than to back them up.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] tiho5:
Apps can be restored in many ways. SmartSwitch, CloneIT,...

The data restore is much more needed and important. Even only for that, root is the must have.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
thats what im saying, for certain apps, like for example power amp, settings/data is restored!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Eudeferrer:
Totally agree. Root is absolutely necessary for a backup that will save data. APK's can be backed up in many ways but data, I don't understand why Google just doesn't create something that will bank it up like Titanium.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
lol but that's what I'm trying to tell everyone,

when i factory wipe my phone and login for the first time in my google account during initial setup and let it restore everything, i have some apps that have their settings restored. Again my example of this is power amp. and I'm sure there are others.

alternatively if i dont log in during initial setup and dont restore anything and simply install power amp from the playstore, the app is UNconfigured.

i believe remote desktop manager app also behaves this way. if i open it from a restaured app, i can see my rdp connection that i created. if i install it manualy i dont.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
Lol! No wonder VinDiesel69 is so hard up, and pathetically arguing against rooting. He buys Carrier phones!!!!! That's too funny...
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
Some of my post was inspired by your posts. You made many excellent points as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] toodamnmuch:
so if we swap the processor or some **** like that it's rootable in that case? if i have a choice between a bricked samsung and unrooted samsung, i'll take bricked everytime, man i hate samsung flavored android, but moto is the mid-range poo-king so done with them permanently after 10+ years.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
no. because in america bootloaders are locked.

if you buy an exynos or a snapdragon that is not from america you can root.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bradhoschar:
Guys, this is the ONLY warning that will be given. I suggest you re-read the rules of XDA. Next offense will get an infraction.

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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] toodamnmuch:
it doesn't matter how, if i have to reverse engineer the entire phone, we have to get root, otherwise why do i own this trash.

if anyone can actually unlock the bootloader and prove it i'll put a large amount of money up for claim, only after you've released the method.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] bober10113:
why not take that money and buy an international exynos or snapdragon and be done with it?

much easier to swim with the current than against it.

and the lesson learned is this:

dont buy the wrong phone next time. buy international.

edit:

also dont forget, root exploits can always be patched.

so even if your American note 9 gets root, it will probably get patched anyways on the next update.

versus if you root a international phone, bootlaoder is unlocked and root is achieved differently.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] toodamnmuch:
no way in hell i can afford $1,200 as a lump sum, why did you even have to ask?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
You're right. I apologize for my part in it. Sometimes it's easy to get aggressive when posters start with that crap. But I should have been more level headed or just ignored him. So again, sorry for my part in it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] 10thDmenxn:
There are a few things to respond to here. First, after the 845 of the S9 was unlocked, I figured it would be fine, as they will also unlock the 855 of the S10's. And I still believe they will. So don't think I bought the wrong phone. Second, I normally ALWAYS buy ONLY the international version of the S line, but in recent models, there is very limited development on the international variants. So again, seeing the S9 and Note 9 bootloader unlocked, I was pushed to buy this phone. I also bought the "unlocked" version of this S10+, but their definition of that obviously wasn't what ours is...

Lastly, you made a mistake about the patching. Once you root a phone, it does NOT receive ANY updates from the manufacturer any longer. So NO, it will NOT get patched. Rooting pretty much locks the manufacturer OUT of your device. We will just have to wait a little longer. But I am very confident that the SD855's will get unlocked as well, pretty soon.

In the meantime, as I'm VERY new at having a device that ISN'T rooted, IS THERE ANY WAY TO PUT 3RD PARTY FONTS ON THESE DEVICES WHILE THEY ARE NOT ROOTED??? I've tried Xfont and some of those, but none of them worked. Ho hum...
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
Most people just worry about warranty and that's why root is irrelevant to them, still worth buying international versions of a product to not feed those primitive countries that have no consumer protection laws and force people to stay locked, it's always good to be able to do something even if you don't plan to.

You'll have to wait for root to change fonts