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[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Casper1982:
Users with the 2GB variant.?

I need to know how many we are and as much as possible open a new discussion about our mobiles, since many, to say the least, are having serious problems with customs roms.

I do not know if the admins or moderators are in agreement with this.

Thank you :good:
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Ayax28:
I too have a problem, when I tried to flash new Havoc versions my device stop booting.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] lpulido:
I second this, most of the custom roms are designed to run in 3GB/4GB variants.

Not complaining at all, I'm happy to have so many devs supporting this device but maybe we can make a thread to share setups for roms/kernels.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] soozin81:
Hi I'm soozin81 and I'm a 2gb user...I'm just assuming we're starting a support group here right? Well it's taken me almost a year now of trying almost every custom rom on here from nougat to pie , even MIUI 9.6 (ran way better than expected actually) and I've finally had to admit defeat and just run stock rooted. In every single one there was always an issue, fortunately never a soft brick , or even a boot loop issue, that I didn't cause myself. But there was always some problem in performance, theming, or system settings that had me switching all the time, and how can you not want to try every shiny new thing anyways?

The ones that ran smooth were so vanilla they were boring, but I have adhd and I'm hard to keep interested, so that's just me. that's no offense to any of the devs at all of course.

So here's the roms that seemed to run the best, this is without using greenify or kernel editors:

Nougat: Resurrection Remix

Oreo: AEX, Bootleggers

Pie: Pixel Experience hands down, I didn't want to even try this one because of the stock feel but it lived up to the hype.

So any tips ideas? And thank you op for string starting this thread!

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*kernel auditor
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] blondi3:
Me too in the 2GB variant. After trying many custom roms I went back to Stock. During my journey I've found just two custom roms I can recommend, both by features or by performance: AEX Oreo and PE Oreo. Unfortunately, both were abandoned as well so there's no better option than Stock, currently
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Casper1982:
It's a pity, everyone works with the 3 / 4gb versions. maybe some dev take some for our variants, although I doubt it very much. for now I am left in stock with root.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] lpulido:
Nice, thanks for sharing that!

The only thing that keeps me on custom roms is GCam, otherwise I'd surely go back to stock.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Casper1982:
In which rom are you? I am thinking about trying AOSiP or OMNI pie. Well I'll try them as they walk :good:
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] lpulido:
I'm running ArrowOS Pie by Kubersharma for five days now, no issues yet.

I wasn't sure which GCam to install, so I extracted it from previous rom (PE CAF by GtrCraft) and it's running fine!
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Casper1982:
At the moment I am in the rom AOSip 9.0 goes very well, without errors or FC
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] fearsome|:
Im downloading lineage 14.1 nougat, i dont know if its good for 2gb versión, the ones who came back to stock, can yougive me the link ofthe rom please?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Wolfcity:
What ROM? You say you're downloading lineage 14.1 so what are you looking for?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] blondi3:
Hi, I went back to stock with this rom: https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/development/oreo-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-coming-t3830482. It's in Feb'19 security patch. Every time I went back to stock I used this and worked great.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] InnerKaizer:
I actually created an account here a few days ago because I was having issues with running Validus P & Bootleggers P on my phone. If I had known it was a hardware issue, I would've probably moved on. Better late than never, I guess. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having issues.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] fearsome|:
Guys today i flash the last carbón ROM 8.1 , and its very good i played pubg and messenger and whtsapp still open and i changue between this apps and no one get closed
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] blondi3:
Hi, is this one? https://xdaforums.com/g5-plus/development/8-1-x-carbonrom-cr-6-1-t3758096/page6

It seems abandoned, there's no update since Aug 2018
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
Well, I was very excited when I got my Moto G5+ a few days ago because I wanted to try new ROMs, but thanks God I've read this topic before even unlocking my bootloader. Sad that there aren't many 2/32 variant optimized ROMs. I think I'll stick to stock for now, since my phone isn't even rooted.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] fearsome|:
https://get.carbonrom.org

From here just search our device and the latest built has april patch
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] AnasElInmortal:
I am in AOSPExtended 9, runs smoth. I changed zram to 1Gb.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] aldochayanne:
how you changed zram?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] BlackScout:
I've had quite a lot of performance issues with Pie roms. From time to time the available memory would just drop and the phone freeze completely.

Reverting to Custom Oreo ROMs solved the issue, but the problem is that most of them run on Nougat firmware. I believe that Stock Rooted Oreo is the best option available.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
Well, thats sad. I was really hoping that I could use some pie-based rom smoothly.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] BlackScout:
Yeah, same. I've tried both Arrow and Pixel Experience (AOSP and CAF), neither works properly.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
So, can you please recommend me any Oreo-based roms that are already on oreo base? I'm already bored from stock oreo.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] fearsome|:
Carbon ROM is the only with lastest segurity patch
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] xxiForza:
True, when you flash the Custom ROM and the Gapps it runs very nice but then the RAM just start to disappear leaving around 100-150 Mb free.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
Interesting. I'll take a look at it. Thanks!
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] blondi3:
Interesting. It seems that the two that are worth looking at closely are CarbonOS and AOSIP, as mentioned earlier in this thread. The problem with the latter is that it forces you to decrypt the phone. I'll try CarbonOS then :) How about performance/battery compared to stock? Does it come with gcam preinstalled? Thanks!
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ALindemann:
Another one with 32/2 variant

Ive tried everything to keep ThE phone usable but every ROM seems to be specifically designed for other variants, the best ones ive tried are AOSIP and CrDroid both of them light and updated(almost)

I use those because i get bored and install a new ROM every now and then, i hace used a lot of roms and only those 2 worked kind of good with my device, i use Pie Roms because i have a smartwatch and wireless headphones and both need notification permissions to work properly and in stock oreo i couldnt find that option, will try carbón, but if it doesnt have notification permisions or i cant get the sd to work as internal without telling me its damaged con every reboot, guess i will need to get back to AOSIP por CrDroid and see if they fix those problems in future
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Puck luck:
How is zram changed?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Wolfcity:
By terminal or with

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor

and similar apps .
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] AnasElInmortal:
With Kernel Auditor
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Puck luck:
Thanks guys...that really works. I been running the latest Arrow pie for a week now and was having lag issues.

Running kernel auditor with zram set to 1050 mb for past 8 hours or so and has been running very smoothly. :good:

On a side note, latest pixel 3 cam, still can't get the night site to work. But the google cam 5.2.025-final-fu24-15c is working well
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ALindemann:
Anyone here remember how to fix fingerprint sensor/gestures not working?

Installed carbón ROM 6.1 release from april but fingerprint stopped working, con the other side everything works perfect, multitasking, etc. Think i found the perfect ROM for my device XT1681
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] blondi3:
Same happened to me. Yesterday I installed latest CarbonOS with latest Gapps and fingerprint stopped working. It doesn't even ask me to configure at setup time, and I clean flashed + installed FP patch. Flashed twice with no luck.

However, I kept it to test and frankly I do not find advantage over the stock. I haven't seen any improvement in performance, battery consumption is the same or worse, camera is worse (Carbon brings Lineage snap cam which...well...just works but motocam included in stock is way better), kernel is Lineage's one (no drunk kernel, etc), default setup is nothing special (default wallpaper makes icons hard to be seen but notification sound is nice, alarm sound was left default).

I'm going back to Stock soon just to either try the zram with Arrow, as mentioned above, or think in decrypt my phone to test crDroid/AOSIP... :(
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] fearsome|:
I prefer carbón over oasip because of free memory ram , and because i play bubg a lot and i can have pubg and whatsapp or messenger open at the same time, without closes

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You need to install the oreo fingerprint zip and will work again , you can find the zip in the forum
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] blondi3:
I guess not. I installed the Oreo FP patch after flashing the rom (but before booting) and didn't worked. I just flashed the patch again and still fingerprint sensor is dead, it never happened to me before with any other rom I installed
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
Did you tried flashing the full stock oreo? it might help, too.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Vicrol123:
I have this variant...

What ROMs are recommending to flash?

Are you flashing any version and increasing the zram?

Im back to stock just for fluid camera (Moto)

Keep rocking.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] fearsome|:
Try nougat fingerprint, for some people works with nougat fingerprint
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] NinjaJuve:
Can anybody help me? I need an advice... I have xt1687 with 2/32 mb. I'm not the first owner of this smartphone. I got it with unlocked bootloader, with TWRP and Pixel Experience. So, the smartphone has some issue: the camera app stopping right after lounching (or get busy). The same problems have not only camera. The flashlight doesn't lounch at all. I have tried some stable custom roms with wiping all partitions, a few firmware, wich i can flash in TWRP. All this was useless.

I think that is an software issue, because this problem is not only with camera.

Maybe anyone know, how i can fix it?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Fedray:
Did you try stock? If you still have issues with stock then it's hardware issue.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] NinjaJuve:
I tried stock, but with TWRP. I'm going to flash full stock, but i don't want to loose twrp. If anyone knows how can i fix the issue and leave twrp? If not, i will flash stock rom, stock recovery and relock bootloader. But it's boring. I want to instal gcam
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Fedray:
If camera isn't working even with twrp oreo then it's hardware issue. Twrp oreo install everything needed for oreo to work without problems, no need to install stock through fastboot.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] NinjaJuve:
Thanks! I'll try to change camera
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
I have the 32/2 variant myself. Back on the Pie roms though. I'll give the ZRAM boost another old college try again and double it to 1024. So far, so good. The only thing I don't like about it is it'll keep my resting avg battery temp a bit higher since I am using the Immensity kernel and it has KSM paging turned on so it uses more CPU power to keep RAM usage down.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
I think I found a way to temper the battery drain a bit running 1 GB of Zram while keeping KSM/Ultra KSM running on Immensity on top of Arrow: use the OC version so the CPU usage doesnt run the battery hotter than usual and then use L Speed to have the CPU Optimizer on Performance and Governor Tuner on Performance at 3 min intervals.

It helps a bit.

UPDATE: The setup was killing the CPU and made the phone panic every 6 hours or whenever I tried to open an app that would ping my GPS. I think I found a solution for that: Went to 1050 MB on ZRAM via Kernel Adiutor, set it to boot, adding 4 or 5 entries concerning ZRAM to the boot order. Then with my EX Kernel Manager, which has the KSM options, disabled that. It freed up the CPU, which is still slightly overclocked on the OC version of Immensity. Now Starbucks isnt taking forever to load up and Waze isn't running the CPU ragged into slowness.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
How unfortunate. Went back to my stock backup. These things only work as long as I don't reboot the phone.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] dirtyreturn:
Xtended rom Pie works well so for with the 2/32 variant. Or me anyway.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] NicoKlius:
hi community, I have the same variant 32/2 with the PE 9.0 , tha last realese AOSP based rom, not CAF, And all works perfectly, except the Gcam so I install the Moto camera from google Play and problem solved.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Vicrol123:
i give a chance to pie roms after a update from this thread. [New][Stable] Google Camera Mod with HDR+ & Portrait

So i install AOSPExtended with post version of gcam from san1ty a works perfect. This portrait mode blows moto camera to saturn :laugh:

2 GB version still alive.

Keep rocking!

Cheers!
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
I am going to give this another try, this time flash mini Open Gapps, which mirrors what Stock Oreo gives and then see if I can cut the apps I use on Stock Oreo by at least 25%.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] webdoctors:
Thanks guys for keeping the 2GB variant alive.

Will try out the latest PE9.0 as recommended. Phone feeling sluggish and issues with hotspot, will see if this update fixes things from stock.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] NicoKlius:
hi community, i have the variant 2/32 too, now i'm trying with the PE 9 aosp based, and the phone run smoothly, without lag, but with the ram management i have a little problems some times, but i havent got FC in apps, No ramdom reboots. But Gcam runs horrible, in photos all OK but with video recording ... horrible, lag in video at 720p,1080p bad stabilization, so a have to install MotoCamera from google Play and all Ok, except 1080P 60fps video recording, because a cant record with this option, i dont now why.

I give me a chance to try the CAF based Rom PE 9, and all works fine, but same problem with Gcam, and the rom havent got option to hide navegation bar (you can do it but with a modification at a file on system folder)
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Puck luck:
*Update*

So i've been using ArrowOS pie for a while now. When i first installed it, had lots of issues. Lag, FC etc. Then adjusted zram and was better. But still having lag and fc problems, but not as often. Came across this article about installing the latest pixel 3 Gcam https://www.****************/2018/11/26/download-google-camera-6-1-mod-for-motorola-devices/

In this article, it was mentioned about adjusting low memory settings and other kernel tweaks. for the 2gb g5 plus. Has been running very well the past week since making adjustments.

I have not tried the pixel 3 cam because the pixel 2 cam from this other article has been running reasonably well and don't want to mess with it at this time...Google Camera Fu24 Mod ...https://windroidwiz.wordpress.com/2...mod-working-portrait-hdrmoto-g5-plus-pixel-2/

I am tempted to try the AOSP Extended rom though. Anyone using it with 2gb version? Feedback?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Fedray:
Uhg I've tried Pie a lot of times but for some reason my apps gets killed in background so I don't receive ANY notifications (WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter), back to stock for now. :(
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
I've tried. I need to have my batterybot pro, today weather running in the background, along with being able to use google maps. while still have my mlb at bat, espn, fenix (twitter) and facebook all also in the background. I also have the Ring app to control my doorbell, the Starbucks widget, my bank's widget while also having YouTube TV, Prime Video and Netflix. And afew key shopping apps.

The setup works for about a week and then even with modified LMK settings to avoid lag, it will lag considerably eventually. I think I need rummage through eBay and get the 4/64 for my needs.

I think to run Pie in 2/32 means stripping down to doing nothing at all.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Vicrol123:
Try to setup from scratch that apps, maybe a backup It's bringing olds configs.

Try lightweight roms like pixel experience or the new one kraken.

I think that pure AOSP or light ROMs without a lot of customizations and little things that use space and ram don't have a significant impact vs stock oreo.

Free ram in the recents updates (may) working in 2GB are 450~550 with pico gapps.

Cheers!
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
So my preferred setup would perform better if I went with a ROM with only Pico gapps?
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
Well, I've given up custom ROMs on this device. I had plans on keeping it a little longer because I was dead sure it would run Pie with no problems, now I don't want to deal with this. I want Pie OOB. Thanks to this thread I haven't even rooted it, so I'll just sell it as untouched and call it a day.

I wish all of you that have the 2/32 variant the best!
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] Vicrol123:
I think... That's the main reason of laggy system (all of Google stuff)

I made this little video so you can see the fluency (which for me is the same as in stock oreo).

[youtube]LxxLy8VqUUg[/youtube]

The only thing that is worth staying in pie is the gcam (And the cool things that roms have :p)

I try coltOS but as it brings a lot of things that end up killing the 2GB. Too laggy even with pico.

Cheers!

Edit: Another thing is battery life, i get better SOT with custom roms.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
Might be a chance for me then to use Brave Browser for Android as news went out that Google is killing ad blocking capability.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
This is not going to happen this soon. Sure, it is a chance to switch, but not a reason to freak out right now. It might take a while before Google effectively kills the APIs required to make the right way of blocking ads to work. I'm also looking for options, but I'm also too tied to Google's ecosystem. Heck, my life might be in sync with their servers. Everything I need is in there, and by using Chrome, almost everything I need is a click away (most of the time), something that I'll take A LOT OF TIME to change. I'll spend many, many days wondering why my forms haven't been autocompleted when I finally change my browser.

Returning to the topic, I've given up on doing anything with my device. I have plans changing it soon, so I believe that I might have a better sale if the device is untouched. Sad, I was really expecting to just slap Pie on it and call it a day, since I had better experiences with Motorola devices in the past, but it seems that this is not going to happen.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] atrain2324:
Crossing my fingers, have to get past seven total days of operation before I go, we found the zeitgeist.

Flashed the kraken-project (seems to be based on AOSP Extended if AEX went on a huge diet). Downloaded the SmartPack Kernel mod of Kernel Adiutor and L Speed. I won't go through the list of optimizations but the main thing is to tweak the LMK settings to 32, 48, 72, 105, 184, 247. I swapped Facebook for the Lite version, cut my apps installed by 1/3 less than preferred (pick and choose) and avoid the camera mods and went with CameraMX.

I'll be somewhere between 420 and 700 free and with the LMK settings, it seems to adjust better on the fly. I do have L Speed cleaning the RAM caches every 30 minutes though. If it goes under 400, the lags do return, but then the LMK will kill empty apps and go back to around 460 or above.

To keep it going, set L Speed to run fstrim command every 4 hours now. I think the lag can be traced to Pie roms building up R/W lag in the /data partition, necessitating the need to run fstrim to get the buildup thrown out.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] hicebone:
Hi, i have pe so laggy, help dont want stock, wich room can i try? Sorry muy english, btw im laggy while wrtiting haha
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] shoe64:
Heres something that worked for me always had signal data issues with every pie rom and i tried them all preaty much i work all over the north west so theres little to no signal already and needed all i could get started with a good working oreo rom pixel for me then dirty flashed pie rom on it couldnt use anything but played around trying to get it working no luck then went to recovery wiped everthing exept persit reflashed my pie rom arrow in this case and extended kernal and now everything is awsome i only change the speaker and headfone gain with a kernal mod because everthing else just slows the phone down no matter what pie rom i chose this works for me
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] jtull89:
Hmm, so with all these good reviews for Pixel Experience, is there any reason to stay on stock at this point?

EDIT: Well, positive reviews from many people anyway
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
I have one reason: keeping your phone untouched. BL unlocking is a point of no return, even if you re-lock it. If this matters to you, stay on stock. If not (and you know what can happen if something goes wrong AND you can fix it on your own), then go ahead and flash :D
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] jtull89:
That is not a bad reason. When you say that re-locking the bootloader isn't a full reversal, do you mean that a tamper fuse will be deliberately blown, and Android will see itself as running on a compromised device? I was wondering what the limitations for re-locking on this device are, so I guess that the "chain of trust" would prevent me from fully reversing this.

I could see myself wanting a full stock experience again if my experiment doesn't work out, but I don't worry about my warranty because that's expired. This would be the third phone whose bootloader I've unlocked.
[Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers] ts_firehawk:
Software-side, I've never had problems even with bootloader being unlocked other than some features that wouldn't work anymore (like Google Pay). When I had some Samsung devices, unlocking their bootloaders would trip some stupid KNOX fuse that, even after re-locking the device, would still detect the device as 'tampered' (which meant nothing that required KNOX to work would work at all).

On the other side, all Motorola devices I've owned would just display a message when the device was turned on about bootloader being unlocked and that the warranty was now voided. A simple flash of a patched bootlogo.bin (IIRC) would bring back the old, normal boot screen.

Well, for me all the times, no matter what device I had, a simple stock ROM flash gave me back the stock experience (not in full as I've said above).