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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
I feel this will be a great camera replacement phone for my Mate 20 Pro of course until the Mate 30 Pro comes out... I wonder if Huawei will completely ditch 3D face and notch... will be interesting. The Mate 20 Pro is a great phone... brought me back from the Apple Darkside. I can't see Apple being able to keep up with Samsung and Huawei (even Xiaomi for that matter) in the top camera phone space, anymore.... IMO. They have just lost so much ground to make it all up with their incremental updates.... I think android has brought me back with better technology, we'll see if it keeps me.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jsamuels:
Courtyard

First photo taken in our condominium courtyard.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] neflictus:
Sorry to be the bad guy, but there are no real details. It suffers from the well known Huawei processing. This phone is good for the Instagram generation, but it takes bad photos. Not true to life.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.

Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schriss:
Any video samples? For me video is more important than photos and it seems the Kirin CPU can not handle video with high enough bitrate, I see occasional stutter too. One reviewer mentioned that 4K video did appear like it was actually 1440p upscaled. One other review did check video bitrate and framerate and both did appear low (I think it was 27Mbps and 28fps for a 4K video).

I wonder if these things could be tweaked by modifying camera app, to try increase bitrate.

EDIT: The video review showing P30 Pro video bitrate, framerate and panning stutter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LaeCzEMEgw

So many reviews out there seem to be sponsored, looking for real-life video examples.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
I have the opposite experience. Samples found online wasn't that impressive, but I quite like how the photos I take (in daylight so far) look., even when zoomed in. It's definitely not as sharp as say, Pixel 3XL, but very good.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EricMartinSoCal:
I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.

Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.

I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
I want to get the 124 update before I do much more testing but here for example is a crop of some daffodils in the sunlight from the XR and P30 Pro (no AI mode).
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mahst68:
I wish I had the .124 update before family day at the zoo but still impressed with these 10x zoom. My S10 could definitely not do this. Keep in mind that lion was through streaky zoo glass.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EricMartinSoCal:
I would like to see someone with the latest update shoot some video. I've seen some video that looks outstanding and I've seen other video that is so oversaturated that it's unusable. I'd love to know how it really shoots. Here are some screen shots from a random comparison video that scared the crap out of me...

http://imgur.com/a/R23NfM6
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] neflictus:
Dxomark rated it lower than the p20 pro in video. That says a lot.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
say nothing.

Vido better than p20 i know i owner both p20 pro and 30 pro---

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say nothing.

Video better than p20 i know i owner both p20 pro and 30 pro---
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
Another crop

Here's a crop of grass taken in sunlight on an iPhone XR and P30 Pro on 114. The P30 has completely mangled the grass :(

More worrying is that someone I respect on Twitter says that actual photo quality isn't improved with 124. This crop comes from a photo with AI mode off.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] easycure1974:
I have a P30 PRO with 124 and an iPhone XS Max and that is also my finding. The P30 Pro camera is much fun to use and the low light capabilities are crazy. But picture quality in daylight are not always the best. Oversharpening as usually with Huawei and trees, branches and grass often look like crap compared to the Xs. I have a hard time to decide which to keep.

The versatility of the P30 PRO camera is unbeaten but I still think EMUI software feels like a carcrash :)

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
Bit of an annoying bug too - not sure if anyone can replicate this - when the phone is charging it keeps lighting up and saying 'face not recognised' even when I'm nowhere near it and it's charging on the side.

My setup is that I turn off fingerprint for unlock (I don't like the risk of screen burn or the persistent indicator) so I only have face unlock activated. It seems to stop once the device was fully charged and doesn't seem to happen when the device isn't charging.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schriss:
can someone confirm this low bitrate and frame rate and also panning stutter

https://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4738345&stc=1&d=1554628501
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schriss:
If you do not know how to analyze a video file, simply record a short video outdoors panning left and right, then download it from the phone in the original format and upload somewhere for people to analyze. For example share it from Google Drive or some other file sharing platform.

EDIT: Neveramind, found a lot of original P30 Pro pictures and movies with download links here: https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/huawei_p30_pro_review/preview_images
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WM_Rizzo:
[MENTION=279499]schriss[/MENTION]

I've seen this, and the second video he did (Falling For The Hyperbole) and the P30 Pro video is utter crap. Stuttery, oversaturated, basically sub par for a flagship.

Really wish somebody would record something with Open Camera.

Do you think firmware update could fix this? Cause right now, I'd feel pretty embarrassed to show that video to anyone.

[MENTION=9771896]EricMartinSoCal[/MENTION]

After seeing the photo and video samples (especially the above video) from P30 Pro, how does it rank against S10+? Right now those are my main two contenders. Note 9 is out of the question pretty much because of poor image stabilization (even though I am a Note guy all the way). I value photography and videography equally. Thoughts?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schriss:
There was one other interesting test I have seen in a review, a guy has used video editing app on P30 Pro and on S10+. He edited the video on both in the same way and then, at the same time, he pressed export button. S10+ exported exactly 2x faster than S10 Pro. By exporting, it means it re-encoded the video. So it would confirm my worry that P30 Pro might be pushing Kirin CPU to it's limits with 4K video and h.264 codec and that is why we see pan stutter, bitrate not high enough and sometimes even frame drops. Link: https://youtu.be/qZ_T5gi4sZ0?t=244

I myself have 2 more weeks to decide which phone I get: P30 Pro or S10. 5x zoom is the only thing that makes me consider P30 Pro, I don't care so much about night time photos. And I can see both can do relatively well in daylight photography. So videos is my main concern now, knowing S10 does it very good and seeing those P30 Pro video samples.

Regarding firmware upgrade, we will have to wait and see, but if Kirin CPU is really seeing it's limits there in 4K video (that's probably why no 60fps), then no firmware can make it go faster and use higher bitrate...

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In this video, look at people crossing the street, look at their heads and also look at the cars passing by. Ignore the background for now. First is S10 next is P30 Pro. Can you see how silky smooth S10 is compared to P30 Pro?

I rewatched that part few times and the more I look the more striking the difference is. P30 Pro was declared a winner in that test, but to me I much prefer smooth S10 video, no idea if it was paid review or not.

Again, focus on heads of people crossing street in front of camera and cars passing.

https://youtu.be/JC03BINSTZM?t=104

EDIT: Maybe the video was not properly processed, it was uploaded to youtube in 60fps but original from P30 Pro must have been 30fps, maybe that introduced jerkiness?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EricMartinSoCal:
I am not happy with the S10+ camera, though you can download the Google Camera Port and solve many of the issues. The video is outstanding. I still don't understand why there is so much inconsistency in the P30 Pro video samples. Many looked fantastic. I'm not ready to judge because I don't have the phone yet. If it always made things oversaturated and killed skin tones how did I see so many really good looking samples, which I watched on my 75 inch TV and looked great?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schriss:
I'm afraid so many reviews are sponsored and some videos I saw did look great BUT the phone was held still, there was no panning AND the subjects were either not moving much or moved very slowly. It seems like the reviews made by those who have much fewer followers are much more honest than those made by creators with large numbers of followers. It would be best to look at raw exported footage, rather than carefully selected best scenario cases, but it's hard to find examples.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WM_Rizzo:
That's why I am hoping for some Open Camera videos soon. It tends to use the phone capabilities much better than the manufacturer's apps (just my personal view). I still think this might be mostly due to Huawei software bug.

Not that knowledgable about compression, but does it stress the processor more when it has to compress harder? I think with Open Camera you can set the bitrate, then we could see if the issue is fixable.

Somehow I feel Huawei was all about the huge leap forward, ignoring the actual quality of the recordings.

The jerkiness in the example you provided could be partly due to the wrong processing, but the videos from TechTablets pretty much tell me that's hardly the only culprit for jerkiness.

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What [MENTION=279499]schriss[/MENTION] said. P30 Pro videos are ok until you start panning or moving.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] leoni1980:
Yes I think some of these Paris reviewers should be ashamed of themselves. I guess they don't want to miss out on the Mate 30 Pro shindig though. The only other thing I can think is that my eyes are faulty and I'm just deluded into being gutted with this device I've just dropped close to £1000 on. I'm determined to persevere with updates though, as mine is still on 114 and hopefully some updates will bring out the best in it. History tells me this is unlikely though.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] schriss:
It would be great if someone used Open Camera (that was suggested earlier) and tried using different bitrates to see what happens. I think default is 20Mbps for a 4K video on P30 Pro. This is even lower than YouTube uses for encoding. Increasing bitrate could allow for better quality, but will not do anything to panning/moving stutter or it might make it worse by putting more load on CPU. Maybe using lower bitrate would offload CPU enough to prevent the stutter, who knows.

I could not find a definite answer if bitrate depends on CPU, but there are many other settings that could be tweaked in encoder settings to make higher bitrate possible with future firmware updates. https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/4eo1qm/is_higher_bitrate_more_cpu_intensive/
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WM_Rizzo:
Also, it looks very unnatural. Take a look at this vid, even at 1080p, it looks like what I get when I go crazy and apply 10 different filters one after another. This just does not look natural to me.

I mean, look at it. I keep waiting for Frodo to walk by!

https://youtu.be/gNW3DZ-NLPQ?t=367
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hunhool:
Just tried it with 4K 80Mbps and 30fps. Works great, however the recorded sound is barely heard. The sound issue is on with basic camera settings.

Also tried the phone with Hedgecam2. Same sound issue....
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WM_Rizzo:
[MENTION=2855103]hunhool[/MENTION]

Did you try it with moving objects? Can you upload a test clip?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
I took many photographs of wild cats and bears at Dartmoor Zoo at the weekend. Really shows the flexibility of the P30 Pro camera.

https://youtu.be/S4M28MP5T_4

Attached is a sample shot.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] compunerd3:
Took these on Saturday with the P30 Pro
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] jacobtf:
I'm pretty sure there is an issue with all third party video recording apps. I've recorded with the default camera app, and sound is loud and clear. I tried with the DJI app (for my DJI Osmo Mobile 2 Gimbal) and the FiLMiC Pro app. Both have extremely low volume sound recording. I'm hoping and update will remedy it.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] EricMartinSoCal:
I just started a thread specific to the issues of red tint and stutter in video. Hopefully we can get some samples and some discussion and see if these issues can be fixed!
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shem2409:
Here are quite a few sample photos that I have taken today with the P30 Pro. The camera is absolutely amazing.

Normal Mode (Auto):

Wide-Angle Lens

10x Zoom

Supermacro Mode:

Monochrome
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
Mine

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
5x Zoom:

Wide-angle Macro:

Aperture Mode:

All SOOC. Feel free to pixel-peep. There are tons of details. I noticed the 5x zoom needs a lot of light to be sharp though, as expected of mirror lenses.

I'm kinda disappointed you can only use portrait mode with human faces though.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Portor30:
Here some using old firmware not 124 from distance
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] trapcoder:
Moon shot 1 - 50x zoom
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] JazonX:
Joining in from Dubai, UAE.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] WM_Rizzo:
Couple of shot I took in Biograd, Croatia. Loving the wide angle on this thing.

I have two questions though:

seems like camera saves multiple versions of the same photo - I presume it's done every time when I snap anything except default mode, 1x. Not sure if I' right about that, but I definitely get more than one version of the same shot many times. How can I stop that? If I am shooting wide angle, I only want to see the wide angle shot in my gallery

lot of times I end up with pics of my shoes LOL. Apparently once you snap a pic the shooting is not done, and since your are lowering the phone you get shots of your shoes. In the shooting button there are moving lines indicating something is going on, but they never stop.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Magnus3D:
A few shots from today's photowalk in Gothenburg. All shot in RAW and then processed.

/ Magnus
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
Mine today

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] spring80:
Same as mine
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] MotasemBT:
Hand with macro
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
Some 0.6x shots. Dynamic range leaves a lot to be desired, but sharper than I'd expected (still quite soft around the edges). And it's quite fun taking these wide shots.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shaunydub:
Some shots from my window.

Ai on,normal mode...not night mode.

Kronberg Castle around 1km from my window.

1x, 5x, 10x zoom.

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Paz9:
Compared to pixel 3 camera? Not video, just point and shoot, which performs better?
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
P30 Pro is much better

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
Not any situation.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
With no light

https://youtu.be/4MIJJCCgAF0

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https://youtu.be/zRx5MB45qh8

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] kabirjedi:
And.?

Few situation pixel better few P30 pro

This two full amateur bad quality video no evidence.And say nothing...

Pls look around internet and serach p30vs pixel photos.(Search original size and not edited pics..)
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
Living in you world

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
There's something about the processing of the Pixel 3's camera software that makes the photos seem sharper, could also be the higher-res screen. But when viewed at 100% on a computer, it's a toss up in daily use.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
P30 Pro have in Low light much better and with no light or night mode and zoom, on YouTube or other forum can see more comparison, and with this conditions not have minimal change other devices

https://youtu.be/i-GVqqlsE9I

https://youtu.be/4MIJJCCgAF0

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[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] compunerd3:
More examples

1: Moon x50 Zoom Video

https://twitter.com/compunerd3/status/1118977086004371456

2: Moon Photo

[IMG="Moon"]https://i.imgur.com/n85gNIf.jpg[/IMG]

3: Aperture

4: Black and white

5: Random

6: Random

7: Panoramic

8: Castle

9: Random
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Piero88:
Here are some:
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] trapcoder:
Full moon
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] shaunydub:
1xzoom , 5 X zoom, 10x zoom, 25 X zoom.

It went past corner of window before I could get the 50x.[/ATTACH]

Ok upload of 1 and 5 X zoom keeps failing.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] hunhool:
Love this phone....
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] salva111549:
Huawei p30 pro
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
Everybody and their grandma do moon shots now lol
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] olafsand:
50x zoom
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Currently have the pixel 2 xl and have ordered today the p30 pro but being honest looking at a lot of these images is making me want to send it back before even opening it, how are these sunny day shots at 40 mega pixel have so much noise in them especially the sky, it the blue sky looks absolutely awful in my opinion, there is no noise in my pixel 2 xl blue sky shots, also a lot of human shots i'm seeing more noise again and un natural skin tones. I really thought this would be a step up from the pixel 3 nevermind the pixel 2, I think I may stick with what I've got until the pixel 4, a lot of these images don't fill me with confidence.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] robamacaf:
Low light Super Macro I took tonight before bed
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] robamacaf:
Low light zoom in

Not too shabby for the conditions. I took these at a show this past weekend
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] robamacaf:
You can't even see that I was sitting in my car when I did this in the reflection of my eye
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] unibomber:
I had a note 4 before this so the camera is a 100x better than what I had and I'm ok with that.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Just took delivery of my crystal version today, it's going back, the cameras are awful, front camera is constantly out of focus and so is the main rear, soft images, out of focus and a blurry edge to all images, worse than my pixel 2, I really thought other manufacturers had caught up to Google but imho nowhere near, now waiting patiently for the pixel 4.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Supreme_One:
2 messages in this thread full of hate
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Ady1976:
Yeah it's quite sad that manufacturers and paid reviewers hype up devices so much and fail to deliver.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] handrew102:
Could someone post a long exposure picture of the night sky I'm curious on how it looks.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mancuk29:
P30 pro couldn't get the macro to fire so shot this with 5 X zoom pretty amazing
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] mancuk29:
Not sure why everyone having issues

Remember this is like a camera you have to click on the pic to focus it's not just a point and shoot

If you head over to Facebook and search on

"P30 pro photography & chat" this is real users and real opinions I've not had one bad picture with the p30 pro
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Magnus3D:
A few recent test shots, most shot in raw and processed but i also experimented with the 10x tele but i'm no big fan of that mode. It's just a bit too blurry for my taste. Those horse portraits are shot in raw at 5x tele, the bridge is also raw at 5x, first penguin is 5x and the second one is 10x with fine noise grain added in post. Last landscape is shot in raw, processed as single raw hdr.

/ Magnus
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] johnnyman25:
I bought mine aurora p30 pro 256gb this monday!!

Here is my flickr album

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmCHs7m6

and some samples!

Stock by John, on Flickr

IMG_20190423_202513 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20190423_203312 by John, on Flickr

IMG_20190424_105928 by John, on Flickr
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] Itaintrite:
The cam software isn't perfect. There are bugs. IQ from all 3 cameras are pretty good (wide angle is the softest, but still decent when not pixel-peeping). If you want something you can just point-and-shoot, stick with the Pixel, or iPhone.
[Huawei P30 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion] isko01:
Can someone open Panorama mode, and try to zoom out with fingers, so you can get ultra wide camera panorama.

I didn't see after 1 month no one that take PANORAMA photo with Ultra Wide camera.

Director of Huawei - presentation of P30 Pro (go on 1:03:55)

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