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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
You will probably have to wait. Because the USA/canada/china/hong kong are all on the same snapdragon processor. Unless if you want to use the dirty root that I have seen floating around Chinese websites. This is why I am glad i bought my phone from Singapore. But I live here in china. I personally wouldn't trust the Chinese dirty root but I know it works but it really ****s up the system like the old samsfail stuff
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
When root is available for the Snapdragon model, do you think there will be support for custom roms?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] smokinmoses:
No........... unless someone figures out how to unlock bootloader. Maybe if you have a non us model. Custom roms are a thing of the great past thanks to carriers wanting them locked down. Exynos is the way to.go.if you want development.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] NisseGurra:
There an new option for custom roms on unlocked devices: GSI

https://xdaforums.com/project-treble
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] kjames2001:
Lol, didn't know that existed. Yeah, you are right, I only trust chainfire, topjohnwu and xda when it comes to root.

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But I heard that Samsung uses a different layout for their system. Maybe it's not compatible?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mercifool:
I had s7e injustice edition with snapdragon, love it, still working fine, but the support on it was horrible, not many dev doing snapdragon. Im only getting s10plus cuz its 10th anniversaries. This time i got exynos.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] revdirty:
Having a Verizon S10+ , I guess even when root(magisk) and twrp won't matter as the bootloader is locked. Seems unlocking bootloaders are becoming more rare these days. coming from a og pixel , it took forever for bootloader to unlock .
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
I am also tempted to get the Exynos because of the possible development even when I know that the Snapdragon model is better overall for usage.

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I only know that HK version is unlocked but then that won't help as possibly no developer will buy the HK version to make roms anyway.

Most of the developers are in Europe and that is why Exynos models get the bigger support.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hella356:
My Galaxy S experiences have been that custom kernels/ROMs can give better performance & battery life than stock, which makes me confident that some, maybe all, of any gap the Exynos has vs SD will be closed. I'm sure gaming will still favor the 855, but for non-gamers in particular, a rooted Exynos should be great.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mercifool:
Yup. Root n twrp is the most important to me... exynos seem to get it a lot quicker, and a lot of dev's support.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
If that is true it will be good.

However, that is also if and only custom roms are built for the Galaxy S10+
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
I know tons of Rom developers and many are getting to make there rom for Exynos. I have used a note4 for 6 years on a custom Rom I just got the s10 from Singapore so I am very excited for root/twrp/ xposed.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] jonathanfv:
I don't know if any developers will make anything for the unlocked Snapdragon, but I receiced my Chinese G9750 yesterday and it's pretty great. The bootloader unlock option is available in the developer settings and I turned it on, but I haven't actually unlocked it because right now I'm living thousands of kilometers away from my bank and need to make sure I can use their app to deposit checks. I don't want a ROM now, but I like that there is a possibility for it. Who knows. Maybe if at some point I can go back home I'll learn to develop? I already downloaded the sources from Samsung and took a brief look. Seems like I could understand a lot of it with some work. I guess one of the first steps would be to compile it stock and flash it on my phone to see how it compares to my current firmware. I'll have to look deeper into it to see what tools are needed. Not saying I will, or will be successful. But it seems doable.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
Singapore model has the Exynos cpu?

Which developers are working on the rims, I may remember some as before IPhone X I had used Samsung S9+ with custom roms
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
Yup the Singapore model is Exynos that is the main reason why I bought mine there instead of HK. Plus they gave two free gifts the galaxy buds and the duo wireless charger version 2.0.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] funiewski:
Sad news:

Conversation

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John Wu

[MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION]

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11m

Sad announcement: after a few days of experimenting and kernel source digging, I came to the conclusion that systemless Magisk is only possible on the recovery partition on the S10. Samsung's bootloader restricts what is possible on normal booted scenarios.

10m

This means that unless someone can help creating an init-only UI like dual boot's menu, you cannot have TWRP and Magisk at the same time.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
For those wondering when will S10 and logical partition support come: it'll be postponed to the next release cycle. I can't just keep adding new stuffs. Magisk is now at a feature freeze. More tests will be conducted and hopefully a new public release will come this weekend.

From magisk Twitter

So on that note i still have high hopes for it. It will just take time.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
Does that mean that S10+ Exynos model can't be rooted?

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I have a question.

If and when in the future the Galaxy S10+ gets rooted and we get custom roms, can the internal storage be used to store the rom files or do they have to be stored in the external storage microSD card?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Corv0:
It can get rooted, you just can't hide root as efficiently anymore, many rootophobic apps will refuse to work.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
Thats no good. It will take the fun away from using the phone with root.

Then might as well get the Snapdragon model which is faster.

Since I am coming from iPhone X, may be getting Note 9 512 GB is better since it has root and lots of Roms to play with???
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
If you get the snapdragon then you will cut your chances of getting root to half.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cjx11111:
hey buddy snapdragon S10 has now open source！
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mercifool:
I dont need to hide root. Root n twrp = win for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sir-harlekin:
So this means what exactly? Will root (without Hide) be avaiable via Magisk when TWRP is released or do we have to wait for root to be "inspected further" because of Magisk Hide.

Thx.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Ndaoud360:
Really I don't care much for roms. As long as I have root, I'm fine. Hopefully the HK SD version will get root.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
This is why people should have stuck with HTC. Unlocked bootloader is everything in Android.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] iamnotkurtcobain:
Lol what are you talking about
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tomatolei:
I sincerely thank you for your work. I thank you on behalf of the Chinese users, and I hope that TWRP will appear soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
我是美国人但是我住在深圳10年
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tomatolei:
;)很高兴看到会中文的朋友，我也是做ROM的，S10确实挺难搞，内核编译都要3个编译器，分区是AB分区，没有ramdisk，我打算购买高通版本的SM-G9730,不知道什么时候可以有TWRP和root，喜欢用xposed！希望大神们都加油，我们就做测试了·！
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RichmondoUK:
Hasn't John done this now and its on the latest canary build? so why not release something for us to play with :P. Just note it as UNOFFICIAL.

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
The problem they ran into is that they can't have both root and twrp on the recovery partition at the same time. Or at least this is what I feel i got from the Twitter feed.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lupin57:
Hi and thanx for all hard work ;)

Zip password doesnt work here •► Wrong :(

Something I missed ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ianmacd:
This is correct, but it's not an insurmountable issue, since you can only have either TWRP or Android booted at any one time. So, you simply boot one environment and then flash the other before rebooting.

A bigger issue is that the device currently renders itself unbootable when you shut it down from an environment booted via the recovery petition. So, whether you were in TWRP or you had booted to system via rooted recovery doesn't matter: When you turn the device back on, it won't boot anything. You have to go into Download Mode and repair the damage from there.

That's a major issue and we don't understand its cause yet.

Magisk will also need work done to make it patch recovery.img and boot to recovery instead of boot.img and system. That work hasn't been done yet.

[MENTION=1649452]geiti94[/MENTION]i also suffers from spontaneous reboots when running TWRP on his device, though it has been stable on mine.

The good news is that, within the confines of the above issues, Magisk works will full functionality: root, Magiskhide, modules (including EdXposed), the lot. See screenshots.

Obviously, these issues need to be ironed out. A device that becomes completely unbootable after shutting down is a total show-stopper for most people.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] NisseGurra:
Is the boot problems related to that s10 is an A/B device, need to flash boot.img to both slots?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rodrigofd:
Curious, Ian, how do you have your actual phone setup right now? Are you living with this rooted, unbootable situation, while using the phone as a daily driver?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] ianmacd:
No. The S10 has an A, but no B, even though it's a system-as-root device.

The simplest explanation of the problem is that boot.img has no ramdisk and the bootloader is protected against all the tricks that have been tried to gull it into using one.

recovery.img does have a ramdisk, however, so rooting via that partition is actually quite straightforward.

Why the device gets so confused on shutdown that it can no longer boot is under investigation.

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Basically, yes.

When I boot the device, it is always to recovery. Whether I get TWRP or Android depends on which image I most recently flashed to that partition.

With the rise of apps, such as kernel managers (Franco's and EXKM), that can flash zip files in Android without the need for TWRP, I'm trying to reduce my dependence on TWRP and do everything in Android. Obviously, anyone who wants to install anything as invasive as a custom ROM isn't going to be able to live without TWRP, however.

And yes, I have to avoid running out of battery or otherwise shutting the device down. Note that a reboot is absolutely no problem: It is only powering the device fully off that triggers its suicide, and then only if it was initiated from the recovery partition. If one first boots to system (which, in this configuration, is the same as booting to recovery, minus Magisk), one can safely shut down from there, but it's a tedious workaround.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
Well this is all great news. Hopefully in another month or so everything can be ironed out.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mrdfw85:
Thanks for explaining the progress in such detail. Do you know any working kernel managers for S10 already? They will require root I presume?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] tomatolei:
I finally saw the good news, I hope to succeed soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] hella356:
I wonder if these obstacles are also present on the SD855 variants that have an unlocked bootloader?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] dynospectrum:
[MENTION=7187684]ianmacd[/MENTION] Cheers sir. With all the great minds tackling this dilemma, the Android community as a whole will benefit greatly from the solutions you, [MENTION=4470081]topjohnwu[/MENTION] and others come up with. :highfive: :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RichmondoUK:
Is everyone still alive? Soooooo quiet here
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] faheemch13:
Yo checking thread daily??
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] robbo1947:
Ditto
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mercifool:
I checked daily too... plan to root whenever it gef released.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] wang9dan:
LOL. I think many Chinese guys like me, who have got the korean version, are waiting for the release of both twrp and magisk ahahaha.:silly:
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] RichmondoUK:
Seems crazy we are waiting for twrp because of magisk.

What about the people who want to flash stuff and not care about root??

Or am I missing something?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] wang9dan:
As for me, no root, no Android. I have got one iPhone and it is very stable. If my another Android phone cannot get root, I will lose a lot of fun.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] z10m:
this is why I switched to Android because jailbreak on iOS is dead. iPhone with jailbreak is better than android in my opinion but those days are gone.

my last iOS device was iPhone X which never received proper jailbreak so switched to S9+ and now S10+.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] george241312:
Jailbreak is very much alive for IOS devices 12.1.2 is done for the X, And i had it for two weeks now its sitting in a drawer after my s10+ purchase, It was really good but it just got boring IOS to me feels like i have a flip phone again too simple.

Sadly in my opinion the android rooting community is what is dying companies are adding a-lot of features that required root before and removing the necessity to root.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] VinDiesel69:
this is true..back in my days there were a lot of people on this site but it is slowly dying since phone companies are adding a lot of customizations
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
This is why I decided to the Hong Kong Official version of Galaxy S10+ 1TB.

It has the Snapdragon processor which is better. I got free Galaxy Buds and Dual Wireless Charger with my phone.

Having used the phone for.over a week, I noticed Samsung has lots of tweaks which I would have wanted with root.

So it is fine for now if root is not released soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mansonstein:
How to dirty root? Exynos 9820, Chinese too
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
I won't explain it for 2 reasons.

1) wrong thread

2) don't want to take responsibility of anyone bricking their device.

If you really are interested search on baidu it's easy to find but I won't say anymore than that.

Just wait for twrp and magisk is my advice
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] TheUndertaker21:
i thought we can root but just can't have twrp with it

right ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Raywando:
Hi,

When can we expect having TWRP for the S10+ ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lupin57:
Maybe ... with a "Please" in the question ? :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Raywando:
Yeah of course, my bad!

Please when can we expect TWRP for S10+ please? [emoji1665][emoji3590]
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
well now that the android Q magisk is done.. hopefully all of his attention is now on the S10 Series family. Since he did buy the phone. to tell you the truth i dont know if we are waiting for TWRP or if we are waiting for Magisk. or waiting for either one of them to figure out how to be able to have both at the same time.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MRDOCA:
We are waiting for updated kernel sources for twrp and waiting for John to dedicate time to magisk for s10
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mansonstein:
But we don't know anything about when will kernel sources be out?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
Kernel sources I think already came out because I see them in the s10 thread
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
Most of the tweaks we used to use are already available by default in the phone. The need for jailbreak is less now.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mansonstein:
Can you please share this TWRP? Wanna flash GSI, Thx
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
First of all it is not jailbreak. It is root.

Second of all not most of the tweaks only a slight few.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] CountVonKrolock:
Except Samsung has now blocked rootless access to Substratum theming on the S10. So you do NOT have more tweaks available, you actually have LESS.

Therefore, root is now MORE of a necessity than until now for people like me who care about theming. And no, Samsung's Theme Store isn't the solution since Samsung themes don't touch third party apps.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] fredgar75:
The main reason I would like to have root is to be able to apply adaway. I can't stand all the pop-ups. Adblocker without root just isn't the same. The other reason is to theme Google apps. The bright white burns my eyes.

Thank you to everybody that is working on this. I truly hope you succeed.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] cline2:
Get Adlock or Adguard.

I use Adlock it works great. I was lucky to pay $12 for lifetime before the offer ends it went up to $35. ?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] LibertyMonger:
Yes this makes it a no-go for me. I'd go nuts coming from my freaking awesome HTC U12+ to S10 without Substratum.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] stephen.brader:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1112298978836709376?s=19
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
Great news
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
I am sure root will eventually be achieved soon but one rooted the system has to be stable and apps should not crash.

I believe it will take about 2 to 4 months for Roms to be released and run stable. By then new phones will be out and some may just move on to new devices.

Android phones are not like Apple where one model is good for a year.

With Android new phones are released every other month.

For Samsung we will have Galaxy S10 5G and Galaxy Fold which both will have Snapdragon processor.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] CountVonKrolock:
The idea that Android phones aren't good for a year is absurd. People are keeping their Android phones for longer and longer, that's what's making the prices go up.

If you have an S7, for example, unless you always want the latest and greatest (and most people don't), you still have no reason to upgrade if your phone is working fine. Heck I'm using an S7 still! Even though I have the S10e in my desk. Why? Because I have to root the S10 to get back functionality I have on the S7. And because the S7 is still perfectly capable of keeping up with my needs anyway so I can wait.

The Galaxy 5G and Galaxy Fold with NOT sell enough to gather developer interest. They're both very niche phones. So it's absolutely irrelevant which chipset they'll come with. And the Note 10 will almost certainly come with Exynos SoCs.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
Best Tweet I have read in Months! Looking forward to the eventual release of TWRP for the S10+

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[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] beastes:
just to know

this root is for all s10 or just exynos thank
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] atieh99:
For now it'll be for exynos only !
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
You are a closed minded child. The only people that buy new devices more than once a year are ;

A) spoiled kids who nag there parents.

B ) reviewer's for YouTube and other platforms.

Cough** I have made my note 4 a daily driver on a custom Rom last 6 years. By choice not because of money. I could have upgraded to the s8 or s9 or note 9 but I waited this year for the 10 year anniversary.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
I take a little offense at your characterizations - I am neither a spoiled kid or a reviewer for You Tube and other platforms. But I always buy the newest Samsung (and Google) Flagships - I usually am able to sell whatever phone I am using when the New Flagship comes out....and I am fortunate to have a good job with a decent income so I can afford to do this.

Some may fit your description, but there are others like me who like to have the latest and greatest - until the "next one" comes out.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] force70:
Im with you, I buy multiple devices per year. I like to try out all the new tech in each iteration of device.

Most people who are running ancient devices and wait years and years to upgrade are not doing it because they want to (despite what they may say).

That said I still have my Note 2, Note 4 and other long outdated devcies lying around but they are too old and slow to use on a daily basis and the camera's on those oldies are just nowhere near current hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] funiewski:
https://t.co/6xwj1pMwow

:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] lupin57:
April fish ... :confused::confused::confused:

Its a joke :D
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sir-harlekin:
Can you elaborate why this seems to be april fools joke? it seems like a needed commit for Samsung S10 devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] funiewski:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1112606461690109952?s=19
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
its not a joke.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] MCube74:
This is for the Exynos devices only right?

Not the Snapdragon devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
more then likely yes. because John in Taiwan,China uses Exynos. plus it is easier to develop for Exynos then Snapdragon. Snapdragon would be done at a later date.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] klbt:
wow... tell me you are G-translating it..

working in china too, got my S6E roms from tomatolei

He is the OP for a QQ group in China catering to Samsung roms
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
No bro i am not using a translating app . I can write and speak Chinese I have been here long enough. Me and my Chinese business partners sell jewelry on wechat. So xposed framework is super important to me for marketing purposes only
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Geekser:
This is super exciting - at first I feared it was an April Fools Joke - but it clearly appears that this is serious - Awesome Work from John Wu
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] mercifool:
All these great news, cannot wait! Big thanks to dev for all their efforts.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] rp4k:
This big question.

Will magisk be update proof. Because Samsung announced that the s10 will get month updates. I realize we might have to refresh it everytime but will it work. And hold.