yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
I can't offer much help on non-Kaiser phones... but I would try to see what is in the BTAGExtModule value BEFORE installing MSVC.

You may need to do a hard-reset to get your defaults back to find this out.

After you install MSVC, try to set the BTAGExtModule back to what it was prior to install. Reboot, and see what happens.

Just a suggestion...can't guarantee anything.

UPDATE

:

Some other quick research points to this thread:

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...iring-pioneer-btb200-bluetooth-adapter-2.html

There is some info in there that talks about setting the BTAG

PB

Module also to vcbthag. Also some info about a BT registry key called:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\sys\COD key

That changing what's in there may help.

I don't have the time...nor a device that MSVC

doesn't

work on to test! But if you really want, read through the first few pages of that thread and try some things.

Remember to always reboot after making changes AND repairing your BT device before you are sure it doesn't work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Phillip Brooks:
Mogul- Sprint PPC6800P

Will this guide work with the Spriny Mogul PPC6800SP, ROM version: 3.56.651.0 WMOS 6.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Phillip Brooks:
Will this guide work withthe Sprint Mogul PPC6800SP

I down loaded MSVC_US_PPC_1.6.19214.d from your user guide but it will not load into the Mogul!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Firstly, the name of the thread is:

The Definitive Guide for Microsoft Voice Command (MSVC) on the

Kaiser/Tilt

2.0

Secondly, why don't you give some constructive information as to what is happening. Do you get any error messages, etc...

Thirdly,...well I'll let you off easy...no thirdly for now :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Phillip Brooks:
User guide not for use with the Mogul

Got it, Only for the KAISER/TILT!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] MarkAtHome:
I saw that! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Hah....yeah I was saving it for you... here you go:

THIRDLY!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] MarkAtHome:
Hi Bengalih! That must have really made an impression on you. :) Hope all is well.

BTW, I know you sold yours, but did you know that the Z9 earbuds begin to crumble right in your hands/ears after time? It happened to a friend of mine and then to me only days later (we bought ours the same month). He uses his phone alot more than I do, so it doesn't appear to be related to use but to time/environment. Really weird...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Glad I got rid of mine then! I've been using a cardio that is about a generation before the first z9... it's alright, nothing special.

I want to get a new one, but I think that I am going to try and hold out until the next gen when they can get wind isolation down more.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] DrHankZ:
It works 100% on my Verizon Mogul.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] MarkAtHome:
I want a new one, too, but haven't had the time to look into. They do have the V1, which uses different earbud materials that you might want to look at (the Z9i uses the same materials); the V1 has built-in voice control which could infer that just maybe they are turning on the noise isolation when the MFB is pressed, rather than wait until you're in a phone call: http://www.myblueant.com/v1_voice_control.htm

This might be best continued, if it's your preference, to do so via PM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] QuantamPulse:
Has anyone figured out how to get this to work with an A2DP DT Headset without disabling the A2DP. I bought a Jabra BT8040 specifically for that purpose and would hate to have to keep turning it off and on all the time.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] deckhardt:
Confirmations Off Reg Key

Hello,

Does anyone know the Registry Key for turning off confirmations?

I've turned them off in MSVC Phone Options, but they don't turn off.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bsg411:
Thanks for the great post and details instructions and tweaks. I was wondering if you or anyone ever tweaked the ComplexResponseSpeed registry key ? I was wondering what kind of results to expect from tweaking that. That key can be found at HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Voice Command\Speech
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Read post #96 and do a search next time prior to asking :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] anmclark23:
issue with running thru remapped button 6 or running from settings->personal->VC

I have tilt and am using HyperDragonIII (Sept.30th version). I manually installed MSVC 1.6 19214.

If I open voicecmd.exe directly thru file explorer, I get the microphone along the top start bar and MSVC responds correctly with appropriate melodic tone response, given delay, then end-speech recognition tone. It will perform the correct function based on the voice input.

However, when I map to PTT (Button6&Hold), and try to activate thru this key, I get a slightly different tone, lower and key and much shorter, and no 'listening' response. I think it is simply the end-speech recognition tone I hear. I have checked the HKLM values mentioned from Post 8 and everything seems cool. Not seeming to have much luck getting speech recognition to run but I here the end beep. Any thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
That seems rather strange as running the .exe manually, or by calling upon it with a button press shouldn't make any difference.

Normally (on a stock ROM) PTT is mapped to button 6 standard, NOT 6(Hold). Although I don't think it should make a difference, you might want to map it to one of the standard 6 buttons and see if it works.

Also, how are you mapping it? Are you editing the registry directly? Are you sure that it is pointing to the same copy of voicecmd.exe that you are clicking manually?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] deckhardt:
Registry Key for Confirmations Off

If there are any other suggestions on how to force confirmations off, I'm open to any ideas.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mbvogel:
Intermittent BT audio confirmations when dialing

ROM: ATT Tilt ROM version 1.62.502.0

MVC: v1.60.4622.0

BT Headset: Jabra BT 8040

Issue: I have no problem enabling MVC via my BT headset. I hear the "ding" and it hears my commands (dial, call). Every time, after I issue the command I can see the right contact appear on the screen, however, intermittently it will not announce the contact I'm calling and ask for confirmation. It is listening for my confirmation and will dial if I say "yes", but it doesn't speak the contact.

As I say this is intermittent. It seems to stop doing the audio confirms after I put the phone in vibrate mode or turn off the sound. However, even though I turn the sound back on, it won't recommence speaking the confirm. In order to get it back to work, I either have to soft reset, turn on/off the BT headset, turn on/off the BT setting. I'm actually not sure what makes it work again.

Any ideas of how to set this up so it consistently asks for the confirm through the BT headset?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dlindman:
Jabra 8040 works fine...

I have MSVC working with a Jabra BT8040 on my Kaiser with the 9214 version with no problems at all. I don't need to turn on or off the a2dp. It works fine. When I need audio, it streams to the headset, and MSVC also goes to the headset. Works seamlessly.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mbvogel:
I have a BT8040, but my problem is that intermittently the dial confirmation is not heard through the headset. Everything else is heard (such as the VC start-up ding) and VC hears my commands, but no audio confirmation. What's your issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
To all these questions revolving around the BT8040.

I don't believe that MSVC supports A2DP.

I recommend that you turn off this feature and/or try a different BT headses (non-A2DP) and see if you have the same issues.

@MBVOGEL... do you realize that you are running version .4622 of MSVC... one of the first steps in the guide says to upgrade to one of the newer versions supported by this guide.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kwallace:
Thanks for the great post!

bengalih, I have a tornado device with Windows Mobile 6.1 standard. I had everything working in previous versions of windows mobile but lost the call announce when I upgraded to 6.1. I extracted the voicecmd.exe file from MSVC_US_PPC_1.6.19214.bengalih.CAB, replaced my current voiccmd.exe and it works perfect now. I have looked for updated versions of the smartphone product and have been unable to find them. Using just the voicecmd.exe file brought back my incoming call annoucements finally. Thanks for the great post!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] gstidham:
I am trying to do some of your tweaks on att 6.1 rom with no luck.

Every time I change a value, it reverts right back to the default setting. Do you have any idea why?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
It's not necessary to quote an enitre post, especially when the original is that big. In fact, it is downright poor etiquette.

Which registry value in particular are you trying to edit?

Which tool are you using to edit it?

When does it revert back (immediately, after reboot, etc)?

Are you using the stock 6.1 ROM with MSVC 19214 built in?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] djskaw:
I installed this on Laurentius26's B5 rom and when i go into the settings to enable it then click ok, it is not really enabled. when i go back into the settings the enable box is unchecked.

any idea on this?

edit: hmm. got it to work now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] nmhusa:
Very true... very true.... very good post BTW.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rocket_rob_71:
Everything works but incoming notifications

ROM: [30 September 08] HyperDragon III OPAL OS 5.2.19971 B. 19971.1.2.6

Radio: 1.65.24.36

MSVC Version: 1.6.19214

Bluetooth: Motorola H500

Description: I have MSVC installed with everything working correctly except incoming call notifications. When I receive a phone call my ring tone volume lowers, I hear a faint "ding", but there is no voice reporting "incoming call from xxx". After the "ding", the volume level on my ring tone returns to normal until the next scheduled notification when it lowers again.

I have tried different download sources of version 1.6.19214, as well as using a 1.6.19209 version. My results were the same for all of them - everything worked perfectly except the incoming phone call notifications. Any suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
All my suggestions for troubleshooting are already detailed in the guide and additional posts.

I will say this to you and to all others who are using cooked ROMs.

Please realize that these cooked ROMs are starting to have less and less Kaiser code in them. They are extensively cross-ported with different device files to give them extra capabilities like Manila and Opal.

Because of this, we can't really call them Kaiser's anymore. As such, my response to you will have to be the same as to users of other devices who post here:

This is a thread for MSVC on the Kaiser/Tilt.

That's not to say these files and suggestions won't work on other devices, but there is no way for me offer any suggestion because I don't own other devices, nor do I generally use ROMs that are cross-ported.

I would suggest posting in the thread of the ROM you are using to find out if anyone else is experiencing these issues, or succesfully using MSVC. If they are, try to recreate their settings (e.g. clean flash, same ROM version, etc).

Good Luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rocket_rob_71:
Thank you for the reply. I never considered that the added "features" may cause unintended issues with other third party software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ridr:
A2DP

I use the stereo Bluetrek St1 to listen to & control my music (using Windows Media Player Mobile) and activate/use msvc with no proplems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Zaiaku:
I can very this aswell. Sounded like a nice feature so I wanted to try it out only to gt the same results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jpcrailjr:
What Happened?

My voice command has stopped working. I have this thread bookmarked just in case I started getting issues with it and sadly, the whole set of "how to's" at the beginning are gone!

bengalih, is it something I said? :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] smacar01:
Voice Command Restart issue

ROM: 1.62.502.0

MSVC Version: US PPC 1.50

Bluetooth Headset: Motorla HT820 and T505

Description: I am having a problem with WM6 and Voice Command 1.5 on my new AT&T Tilt (HTC 8900). I get the error message: " Voice Command has encountered a problem. Restart Voice Command and try again."

Soft resets don't work... Does anyone have an answer? VC 1.5 software worked fine on my AT&T 8125 w/WM5
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Porshefan. Welcome to the forum! First, please update your post with the proper format listed at the very top of the thread.

As far as your issue. I would ask...

Have you installed another application right before you began having these issues?

Have you tried a soft reset?

Have you tried a hard-reset (if possible)?

Have you tried to repair your BT headset?

Do you get no 'ding' or notifications only when using BT or even when not using BT?

Let's start with those and see where you are at.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
smacar01...thanks for being the first to post your problem in the proper format!

If you read further into the thread you will see what versions of MSVC are supported. Version 1.5 does not work on WM6 devices. Please update to one of the 1.6 versions listed.

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Hennyb:
Registry Setting for MSVC Toggle

Thank you for the excellent Post in regarards to MSVC. Very informative.

Downloaded the MSVC toggle and it did not work. On my phone the registry notification flag setting for "Announce Notifications using BT Hadsfree if available" and "....speaker or wired headset" is 2 and 4 respectively not 10 and 12 as in the MortScript file.

MSVC Build: 1.6.17913

Changed these reg entries in the script and it works great. Actually made two scripts, one that changes the MSVC notification to use the BT handset and the other for the speaker notification. I then use Phone Alarm to execute one or the other script when changing Phone Alarm Phone profiles. This then automatically changes the phone from a Headset Profile to a speaker profile.

Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Interesting... What version of MSVC command are you running? I believe I was running 1.6.19209 when I wrote the scripts. Perhaps the flags have changed?

Let me know as I may be able to do a version check in the script and then update appropriately.

thanks!

p.s. That's a nice idea with PhoneAlarm. I believe I tried the software and found it a bit buggy. If you have the time it would be great if you could make a post that tells which version of PA works well for this and a little tutorial of how to set up the profile as you say? I will link to the post from the main thread!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Hennyb:
Registry Setting for MSVC Toggle

Update my original post with the MSVC Build.

I also added another Registry edit under the MSVC Phone Options to switch on Anounce name when using BT Headset and swiitch it off when usig speaker.

Using Phone Alrm V1.66.1 and find it works well with the Kaiser. Will post instructions on how I set up PA tomorrow. Bangalih, Can PM modifed MortScripts if needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Interesting, I installed my copy of 1.6.17913 and my registry entries were how I originally wrote the script.

Where did you obtain your MSVC copy from? Do you have a link to the specific version, or could you PM it to me to test? It is possible that one of our builds is actually an earlier version (maybe even 1.5) with just some of the files replaced.

Also, yes, please send me your mscr files as I wasn't exaclty sure from your description what you say you added.

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] smacar01:
I am not finding any MSVC 1.5 to 1.6 upgrade option anywhere. All I see is the straight purchase requiring me to lay out another $40. Are you aware of any upgrades?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
There isn't an "upgrade" price. The legality of purchase 1.6 is kind of up in the air right now.

Some of the "leaked" 6.1 ROMS that are posted on this site already include a version of 1.6, which leads some folks to believe that it is now something MS is "giving" away on new 6.1 devices.

A CAB version of the latest 1.6 is available at the beginning of this thread. If you want your conscious to be totally clear you should probably pop the $39.99 and buy a new version of 1.6 from online somewhere. Then, download the latest build from the beginning of this post.

If you are like most people on this site already you take the stance that MSVC can now be freely distributed, in which case, just download the CAB.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] crussell:
Bengalih,

Thanks for the looking into this so quick! I will give this a try early this week (can't sync phone until I get back in the office on Monday) and let you know how it goes. I think I will tie your first toggle script to the PTT button, and this new one to the PTT hold.

Chris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
No problem, just post back with your experience to let everyone else know how it goes!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] crussell:
Ended up running into the office to get my laptop. This works a treat! Thanks for the great workarounds. Now if only there was a way to automate it so that it was tied to the status of a call...

Chris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] invasion13:
Hi,

Did you look for the right places ?

vc 1.6 us upgrade for 10$

http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/htm...Page=searchResults&id=prod5480767&sf=48190044

available in french and german also

http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/htm...gNybr!816637744?_requestid=283764&sf=48190044

did you buy the vc 1.5 from handango ?

http://www.handango.com/upgradeChec...E8CEF14FA5D4BB92&platformId=2&productId=90635

regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] invasion13:
Hello,

HTC TYTN II (kaiser) Unbranded, wm6 pro (french), stock ROM 1.56.406.5,

(08/30/07),Radio 1.27.12.17, Protocol :22.45.88.07H

I haven't been able to replace all the vc files(original ones VC 1.6.4622 french), with u.s. version vc.1.6.17913, as described here:

http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=249

because it was causing a crash in voice command(of course first i had desactivated vc before the file replacing).

it worked except with VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll, which was causing a crash in voice command when i tried to reactivate it in "parameters/personnel/voice command", after the files' swap:

"please reinstall vc", so i kept only the old french VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll

Now my voice command in parameters/personnel/voice command

shows as 1.6.17913, and every thing seems to work.

Bengalih,

Would you think 1.6.19209 will add some extra(s) or correct some issues ?

anyway thanks for your great idea to synthetize all the vc threads !

regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] markit:
I have 1.60.4622. Is this version different t0 1.6.19209 in that it is for 'British' English or will 1.6.19209 work for any of the englishes? I would like to get the announcements to fuction correctly, but not at the cost of misinterpretation. Thanks for the great thread
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Invasion,

From all my testing none of the 1.6 versions of MSVC differ in features. If you have a version that is working for you then stick with it, you aren't missing out on anything.

There really appears to be only one major bug in an otherwise functioning MSVC and this is the fact that it doesn't properly announce "Private" or "Unknown" callers. This is not fixed even in the latest builds.

thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] crussell:
This is the only bug that really get me as well. Then again, maybe it's a "feature"...

Whenever I get an incoming "private" or "unknown" call, it always shows correctly on caller ID, however MSVC seams to think this must be my wife calling and announces it as such. If I had a mistress, she'd never know... :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] spacebar76:
Hey bengalih,

I just really want to thank you for the sheer amount of effort you put into this. Wow. It's inspiring.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kricket:
i tried everything you have here and i still can't get it to read my text

i tried everything you have here and i still can't get it to read my text
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Yes, it is quite random how it acutally handles Private or Unknown calls.

Sometimes it will just not announce anything and block the ring as well (so you don't know a call is coming in). Other times it will announce the last number that has called. I also think that once or twice it announced a random number.

This isn't as big of a deal for me since most of the time I just miss the call since it doesn't announce it. But, personally I don't answer calls marked "Private" or "Unknown" usually anyway, as I like to know who is calling me... let them leave a message! :)

I found out some more info about why Incoming Announcements work the way they do. Check out this post (Under the Hood section).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] DaveShaw:
Some wierd **** is going on with bengalih, AFAIK his actions are under review.

Hopefully his guides will be restored to thier former Glory.

In the mean time, Google to the Rescuse: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:...ide&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

Ta

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JimmyMcGee:
Dave is Correct.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] internetadam4657:
Jimmy, is that all we are allowed to know right now or is there anything we can be filled in on? Myself, I'm really curious to know what is going on. If we aren't allowed to know anything right now, hopefully, once this is all sorted out, we can get filled in. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JimmyMcGee:
Depending on the situation answers shall come to light. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JFX:
It's like finding out your best friend just died or your dog. Strange and unfortunate to get on here today and see the raw rom maker is cooked!

And I was just about to ask him a question, blimey. I hope his actions don't warrant his good work arrested development forever.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] JimmyMcGee:
For everyone who is curious about what happened to Bengalih, here is the answer.

Bengalih, felt he was being treated unfairly, and decided to leave XDA, taking his Guides with him.

If anyone would like to create their own guides, they are more than welcome to.

If anyone has any further questions feel free to Private Message Me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
kricket, please follow the format on the first post for reporting issues. You don't give anywhere near enough information to allow us to assist.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kricket:
OK MY PHONE WORKS VOICE COMM TELLS ME WHEN SOMEBODY IS CALLING BUT WHEN SOMEBODY SENDS ME TEXT DON'T WORK CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME I TRIED YOUR GREAT INSTRUCTIONS BUT IT IS ME THAT DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH PLEASE HELP
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Let's try for strike 3 kricket. READ THE VERY FIRST POST in this thread about how to post your problems. Provide ALL the information.

thank you