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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] MJStross:
Calls stopping during dialing and no voicemail prompts

Phone : Tilt

Rom : Dutty Hrybrid 6.1

Additional Shell interface: Spb Shelll - Cool look

Voice Command: 1.6.19209

Bluetooth Headset: Jawbone 2

Howdy All,

Ok I have had every problem listed in these 30 pages of posts from one time to another. I'm happy that right now I get Voice Command to work on my Jawbone and announce calls finally!!!

However I can't seem to get Voice mail and emails to announce themselves.

Also, on every ROM including my current ROM I get an issue that during Voice Commands attempt in placing a call it gets stuck on the contact screen. I have to close either the contact screen or another program and then it starts working and places the call. This is completely random and occurs sometimes after a soft reset or after many phone calls.

Also in the past, I have had the problem with the ptt button becoming not operational, the blue tooth headset working first call then not again, the voice command software locking up the phone etc. Since I use this app everyday especially when I travel I have tried every version in order to get these problems ironed out.

In closing 19209 seems to be the most stable so far. 13 sometimes stops the bluetooth headset from picking up.

Can anyone help with my central problems.

Again, thanks in advance

Mark
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Protonus:
I report this works too, however, I think what most people want is the voice announce in both the headset, AND the phone. I know I do. I'd rather have it in the bluetooth headset anyway if it's on...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mook32:
thanks

Thanks alot Annulation! Worked like a charm!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Jbx028:
Hi,

i am using MSVC only in order to start programs (mortscript scripts) and i am just wondering if there is any thing to change in order to remove the fact to say "Start", before to say the shortcut.

thx in advance.

jbx028
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] andyink:
New upgrade for XV6800

I have a Verizon XV6800 that is completely hosed with my version of MSVC on the WM6.1 upgrade that just came out. Do these tweaks work for my device with 6.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Earthworm:
No voice confirmation on v1.6.19213

Hi.

I've been running v1.6.19209 for a while now on my unbranded Kaiser. Recently I thought I'd try the latest version v1.6.19213. I have tried this version on the latest ROMeOS v4.5.2 and Laurentius26_KaiserDiamond_V12 ROMS. Just like wa0qbu mentioned a few posts back, I am also not hearing the VC voice. However, it does recognise my commands. I just don't hear any confirmations before a contact tel no. is dialled and it will not tell me the time if I ask for it etc. No such problems with v1.6.19209.

Has anyone had any success with v1.6.19213??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Why don't you just use the 1.6.19209 version if that is working for you? There are no discernible differences in actual functionality between the two.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
No.

And since I can't post a message with only 3 characters, again:

No.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Everything in this guide should work for all the 1.6 versions of Voice Command.

Please remember this is a guide for the Kaiser however. I cannot tell you with any certainty how it might be affected on other devices.

However the XV6800 should be for the most part the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Earthworm:
:confused:

Well, yes, of course I am going to go back to 1.6.10209. I just thought some feedback on v1.6.19213 might be helpfull to other members that might be considering installing this latest MVC build thats all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mogg851:
ROM: 3.57.502.2 WWE (Official AT&T Tilt 6.1 release)

MSVC Version: 1.6.19214

Bluetooth: Plantronics Voyager 510

So I didn't see anyone else with this Rom or MSVC version, this is the official 6.1 AT&T Tilt release that shipped and installed 1.6.19214 (stressing the 214). So far (limited testing as the Rom came out Tuesday, didn't install till Tuesday night, started messing with MSVC last night) it works beautifully with my headset and announces all the calls I have received and most of the time it announces/reads my emails sender, subject/sms. But sometimes and I think its when there is more than one unread message it will not read it. Anyone else have the issue.

Like I said 19214 was shipped with the ROM so I haven't tried any older versions and it works mostly, but those few times it will not. Any tips or am I a beta tester?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Is there an official download for this new ROM? I'll give it a try if you link me to it.

thx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rsolomon:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94

Semi-related Note that there are serious bugs in Exchange 2007 with CAS-proxy, so check with your IT department before installing any WM6.1 ROM if you use DirectPush....

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
Thanks...actually I was going to upgrade to 2007. I see some quick notes regarding mail not being sent properly. Do you have any "official" documentation regarding the issues and is it solvable at this time through an means? I might upgrade to 6.1 for now and by the time I upgrade to 2007 maybe it will be fixed :/

(sorry to derail my own thread) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] KD8DNS:
has anyone found a way to change the voice. Like it would be really neat homer simpson talked back. Just wondering?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ahirshfield:
UK specific dialling syntax...

Hi Bengalih et al,

Thank you for the splendid guide and all your effort.

I have been tinkering with the multitude of MSVC versions and files to get it working on my Diamond and those of my staff at T-Mobile. Now, thanks to Dutty's awesome cooked 1.8 ROM, we have integrated v1.6.19965!

Fortunately nearly everything seems to be working fine - except dialling via the "

DIAL

" command.

From our own investigations, using the base UK retail 1.6.4622 allows the "dial" feature to work with UK format telephone numbers.

Every other newer version mentioned on the first post, including the newest 19965 edition results in the first digit never being recognized as a "0" "zero" or "oh". It seems to want to substitute for a "1" or "+ plus".

I have inspected all registry entries between the UK & US editions and cannot find anything that would lead to different number parsing. I have also tried trial-and-error substitution of each file/exe/dll/library to pinpoint what might be responsible for this recognition difference.

Regardless of which edition I use - even the new 19965 - there is only one file which changes the recognition of the "dial" number format. "

VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll

".

If I leave every other file as per the newer US editions then replace this file with the retail sourced UK 4622, the number parsing works for UK localisation. Likewise if I begin with a retail UK 4622 install and only replace that single file with a newer version, the dial feature becomes unusable again. This leads me to believe that this .dll is responsible for some, if not all, of the recognition ability and certainly evidence that it is the cause of number format parsing.

As far as you are aware, what exactly is the purpose and function of this file? Is it safe to use an older version together with newer .exe, cpl and every other library, or might it be missing other required functions/calls, even leading to other issues of which I am unaware? Considering it is one of the four key files suggested for replacement with Win 6.1, there must be some dependency or requirement that would not work when using the newer MSVC versions with the older 4622 VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll.

If it is actually only holding the regional-specific (US vs UK vs DE, etc) dialect recognition, spoken command differences, etc, then surely it would not be a required replacement file and should be recommended to leave as per the latest (4622) UK-regional specific version.

Your time and help is very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Adam R. Hirshfield

T-Mobile (UK) Ltd.

Core Networks

P.S. even when using the latest US edition, it is possible to 'work around' this issue by using the international format numbers with the "DIAL" command. i.e. "DIAL +'plus'44 208 1234". This will allow one to dial UK numbers with the US edition!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ahirshfield:
VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll resources

Okay, small update with partial answer to my own question!

I have now used the "Resource Hacker" application (http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/) to view all the resources inside the library VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll

It is certainly more complex than I imagined and is probably NOT safe (at first glance) to leave as an older version in use with newer MSVC exes. I may know more if I spend the time to compare every last resource detail between the 4622 and later dlls.

For info, this file contains all the WAV files for 'canned' responses, all the small images/icons used throughout MSVC, every piece of dialogue, grammar, and as expected all the recognised commands. Extracted details attached (from 19213 US version). My guess is that if any of these resources mismatch the rest of the MSVC expectations, things could go awry.

So best leave alone and make do with the later US editions until M$ pull their finger out! Until then remember it has always been possible to dial using untrained contacts with the 'CALL' command and if UK-syntax number dialling is required a work around it to use the international number format by saying "DIAL" then "plus44" followed by the number without a leading 0-zero.

Hope this is all useful.

Kind regards,

Adam
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ulischultz:
Following Problem:

I installed MSVC 19209 on the Samsung Omnia.

Everything works fine via the phone-speaker.

If I connect the bluetooth headset and push the PPT button, the mic-symbol in the top-bar appears, but no beep sounds. Not in the headset (as it should be) and not in the speaker. Also I can give no commands via the headset.

Also no ringtone is routed to the headset on incoming calls.

During the call itself, the heaset works normal.

Any idea, how I can make it work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ozone777:
I have a similar problem:

The first time I press the voice button(PTT)

on the phone

, I get the MIC icon but no "beep". But if I let MSVC timeout, and then press again, the beep usually works.

Is there a registry fix for the audio timing on the local speaker like with the bluetooth headset?

By the way, my bluetooth works fine with MSVC since I applied the timing fix suggested in this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] rsolomon:
There's a lot of info and a link to a (currently removed) KB article in here:

http://forums.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/showpost.aspx?postid=3599682&siteid=65

and our IT department claims to have the private hotfix for testing, but the thread seems to say no "official" fix until end of year :(

Note that unless you're doing CAS Proxy with an Exchange 2007 Server, you shouldn't hit the issue - but most large corporations apparently do.

HTH,

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kp126:
does anybody know any good tricks to get msvc to better understand your voice bc voice dialing isnt so accurate even after many attempts... can i make voice tags for contacts or numbers?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] EViS:
I'm running version 1.6.19213 on my WM6.1 HTC Wizard (not Kaiser!). MSVC never says anything back to me (and I've checked my volume and settings as per this thread). Saying 'help' for example doesn't do anything, despite the microphone being active at the top of the screen and I do hear a 'beep' when activating MSVC.

The only thing that does work is 'call <name.surname> on <device>'. It takes about 5 seconds for MSVC to start dialing, but it doesn't confirm who it is calling out loud...

Any idea what the issue may be?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] EViS:
Right, just installed 19209 and all is working well. MSVC is amazing!!! I haven't tried my bluetooth headset yet so will report back with that if I have any problems.

Where is the shortcut to the MSVC manual?

Also, is there any way to prevent MSVC responding when the phone is set on silent/vibrate?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Dawgtrix:
Thanks Bengalih for the reply, I have trouble navigating around this site is so awesum, I'm just a Noob plus i'm over 40 heheheh. I Have msvc v1.6.19214. In the selection box in in voice command have many options such as calendar, contacts, media, messaging, phone, start up & status. I unchecked them all only leaving phone checked. I Re-assigned the ptt button. It works but no incoming. Thanks for your assistance your guys are great. I have a Tilt with windows 6.1 on it.

R 1.65.21.18

G 25.88.40.05H

D 3.57.00.00

Also can I start my phone with my name instead of the stupid AT&T with globe stuff?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ulischultz:
On the Samsung Omnia no sound at all from MSVC is routed to the bluetooth headset.

Also with Software like Bluemusic (http://www.teksoftbluemusic.com/) no sound is routed to the headset.

Phonecalls are routed correctly to the headset.

Any suggestions?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] benchpress:
HTC Touch Diamond

I have a Touch Diamond (ROM 1.93.456.2 WWE) with 1.6.19213 version of VC. VC works partially on my phone in the following way:

VC seems to accept all the normal verbal commands, will dial/call and launch programs as instructed, but it will not respond/announce on either speaker or BT headset (Plantronic Discovery 655) at tall. No matter how I fiddle with the VC Settings, it just simply will not "talk" back. I have no problem assigning it to a button, no problem initiating VC to call or launch programs.

Has anyone encountered this issue? Is it a HTC Diamond anomaly or is it a ROM compatibility issue?

Thanks in advance!!

Benchpress
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] fatcar:
Very Well Said
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
MSVC Performance Intermittent

My Info:

At&T Tilt WM 6.1 (USA)

ROM 3.57.502 WWE (7/17/08)

MSVC Version: 1.6.19214

Jawbone Version 2 (also Plantronics 420)

First - this MSVC version is not listed in your preamble. Is something wrong with this version #?

There are times when MSVC works fine. But then it just stops responding to a BT request or even a PTT button push. The microphone will appear, open up a channel to the BT headphone, but not respond to anything I say.

Thanks for a GREAT resource on MSVC. But while I admire the time you have put forth here, why isn't MSFT trying to address these problems with the same enthusiasm (yes I know, dumb question!). Maybe they have given up on the product??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ulischultz:
Is there any way, how to make this work?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
Since MSVC is so unreliable, is there a way to get back the voice dialer offered on HTC phones with Windows mobile 6.0?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] warmkiwi99:
Don't agree. Out of the box it works OK. Most of the effort people have put into it is to get it to Announce through a BT headset. On my Kaiser, I followed the instructions here and it works perfectly every time - including Announcements (this is with Vodafone UK stock 6.0 and 6.1 ROM)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
On my AT&T tilt, MSVC seems to work sometimes -- even announcing incoming calls and messages. Then it just goes to sleep and will not accept any voice input either through the Bluetooth headset or directly to the phone by pushing the PTT button. A soft reset seems to solve that, but in my view that is not acceptable.

Something certainly seems to be interfering with the functionality of this software.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] warmkiwi99:
have you installed it on the device and not on the storage card?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
there was no installation -- it came with the Windows mobile 6.1 OS update from HTC. It is installed in storage memory.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
I have updated the guide to version 2.0.

I have tried to consolidate some info in the thread into the guide and fix/streamiline the info for readability.

There may also be some updates on my MSVC tools forthcoming...

Thanks to any users who helped contriubte to the information herein.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ulischultz:
2.0? Where can I get this new version?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
Go to the top of this thread.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] bengalih:
I said I updated the guide to 2.0...not MSVC.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] HughM:
Different .19214 Results on PPC6800 (Mogul)

NOTE: I have not been able to find any discernable differences between the functionality of .19209, .19213, and .19214. In fact, I continue to use .19209 because of this. This guide was written with 1.6.19209 in mind.

Feedback from a HTC PPC6800 (Titan) user. I experienced a difference between MSVC 1.6.19209 and 1.6.19214; 209 didn't work but 214 did! After Handango sent me to non existent Microsoft support for Voice Command, I began scouring the web for fixes. Thankfully I found your excellent thread and began experimenting. I realize the devices are not the same but similar enough to hope for success. Only after you posted 214 did I get MSVC working, however, including incoming call announcements, outgoing calling with confirmation, and all the other features of VC.

Here is my configuration. There is no button set, VC operates only in bluetooth mode, ROM is standard issue, Direct Push (Exchange email) is simultaneously active, and no registry tweaks have been applied.

When Voice Command works it is a great product!

WM 6.1

HTC ROM 3.56.651.0

Jabra BT8010 convertible mono/stereo headset (another complication - VC only works in Phone, not Music mode).

I posted this here because yours is not just the definitive guide for the Tilt it's the definitive guide (and only real support) for Voice Command. Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
I do not have exactly the same problem. On my device, it is rare that MSVC works totally -- all the time. For example, if I start Microsoft voice command by stating "call someone", sometimes MSVC just displays the contact screen for that person with no voice prompts (the microphone icon disappears). Other times, using the same command the microphone just disappears and nothing happens. I can't determine if this is because MSVC does not understand me, does not like me, or is too tired to operate.

Every once in a while I am surprised when it works as advertised.

Because of the inconsistency, I would much rather go back to the HTC voice dialer that was supplied with Windows mobile 6.0 on my AT&T tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dlindman:
MSVC with official update???

I installed the official HTC rom update for my TYTN II and did not see MSVC in that rom upgrade. What are you talking about????
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] BillMc:
I can't speak for the TyTN update, but the update for the AT&T Tilt included MSVC, version 1.6.19214. This guide has been updated by Bengalih and speaks to the includion of MSVC as part of the ROM update.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dlindman:
I do have a TYTN II and I also see a difference between 19209 and 19214. When I installed 19209, it would work OK, but a few days later, all responses would stop via bluetooth. That is, I would say "Call Home at Home" and would not get the usual confirmation "Call Home at Home?". I could start a program, but any responses would not work. Nothing changed in settings from what I could see. I would have to reinstall MSVC to get the responses back. With 19214, I have not had this problem ( 2 weeks and counting) and all resposes AND notifications seem to be working. Anyone else seeing 19214 as more stable on their TYTN II/TILT?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dlindman:
Ahhhh....

Ah, I have the unlocked HTC branded TYTN II. I got the 6.1 Professional upgrade via the HTC website and it did not include MSVC. Using the 19214 version has solved problems I was having with the 19209 version. I love MSVC and can't live without it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dlindman:
Really????

I understand the ATT Rom upgrade had this, but MY upgrade via the HTC website for the TYTN II did not contain MSVC? Has there been a newer update for HTC branded devices??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] charley000:
I didn't realize I had it til I read this forum

I got my Tilt yesterday. It came with WM 6.1 installed on it. I didn't read the entire manual and didn't even realize that Voice Command was installed on it already. I purchased it from Handango and tried to install it. I had some problems. So now I am trying to get my money back from Handango. After reading this forum, I managed to get the one that was preinstalled on the phone working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] charley000:
Customization of Voice Command

Is there anyway to customize this program as follows:

1. I would like to be able to say "Start IE. Open Google. Search for starbucks"

2. I would like to be able to edit contacts and calendars, etc.

It appears you can do that with Nuance Voice Control (but that is sold as a $6/month subscription). Has anyone tried that product? (Nuance also makes Dragon Naturally Speaking which is generally regarded as the best of the PC voice recognition/control packages.)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] crl0901:
I'm having trouble getting MSVC to announce incoming calls. When I get a call, all I hear is my ringtone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] kittixda:
How to go to HKEY

Very interesting to slower her speech speed. But where is HKEY. How could I go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\...\...

Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] swomack:
Great WORK! The instructions were perfect and everything worked flawlessly on my xv6800 from Verzion. Only treaking I had to do was I did not want PPT to take my "messaging" button. So, I had to delete the key and change the button assignments to get my messaging assigned back to the messaging button.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] knights191:
I am having a Windows Mobile 6.1 device (samsung i780)

With EFNS cooked rom, version 4.0 ultimate final.

I tried al three microsoft speech cabs, but every cab is giving me a problem.

Speech through the normal speaker / mic works fine, but offcourse, bluetooth is giving me a hard time.

Using my Jabra 500 headset I push my button, therefore I see the microfone icon on my phone.. But there is no audio coming or going through my headset.. any ideas for me ?

the .dll file is referring to the correct one..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] ulischultz:
I have exactly the same problem on my Samsung Omnia! Seems to be a "Samsung-Problem"!?

Could it be that the "headset" profile is needed for that, which Samsung Omnia does not have? I only habe "Hands free" when I pair my headset.

Or is there no difference and this is not the cause for this problem?