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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
In not in denial. You are trying to blame Google for how Samsung implements their Android UI. That's as obtuse as it gets.

Coming from someone who doesn't like pie because of the layout of the recent apps that can be CHANGED and the rounded corners on notification bubbles, this is to much.

Like I get why people who Need call recording don't upgrade, there is no work around really unless you root and void Warrenty. But you are throwing your arms in the air over litteraly nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Yes you are lol Everything is on Google and Samsung signed an agreement with Google lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
That makes 0 sense. You sound like a 5 year old child who doesn't know how to do anything for themself. Oh the horror of havibg to customize your phone to the way your personally like it. And GOD FORBID IOS and Android have similar features. It makes them absolutely unusable! /S
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
That actually makes perfect sense. I know how but why do I have to accept iOS being shoved in my face. Why does Android have to look like iOS in the damn first place. You love defending the dumb decisions by Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Lmfao. It's so funny how you say IOS is being shoved in your face. Your thing to hop on the anti-pie bandwagon but you have no legitimate reason.

Do you throw out phones when the wallpaper isn't to your liking?

Better yet, did you notice that Google chrome on Android has rounded corners in the URL bar? What do you use in place of chrome? Dolphin? Mozilla?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Lmao because it essentially is. My reasons are pretty legit. Idc about wallpaper lol. I don't use Chrome lol so you lose there lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Not even 1% legit. Rounded corners on notifications, and a change to full size recents menu that can be changed to whatever you want? Let me know when Android locks down the UI to the point that you can't change a thing about it. Then your argument about IOS being shoved in our faces will hold some weight. Until then don't create problems where there are none, like you are doing now.

Remember when Android only had notification toggles for setting's, and then IOS implemented the same thing?

The "idea" and layouts of phones are evolving. That's how this works.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Actually it is legit. You just love defending bad design decisions.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
It's not even close to legit. It's like being against a new 2020 Toyota because they changed the interior infotainment display to an all screen design like Tesla. You are buying a car not a radio system. Be more concerned with the parts that actually make it a car, like the drivetrain, the body, how it ACTUALLY drives.

the last thing i even notice is small design changes like the rounded corners on notifications. I rather Google focus on backed of the software and continue to improve the overall smoothness and efficiecy of the OS, as they have been doing. Since that's what is actually important. Getting upset at rounded corners and refusing to simply change the recents menu to one that you personally like is akin to the temperament of a 5 year old throwing a tantrum because we aren't doing what they want to do RIGHT NOW.

GOD FORBID you have to change the recents menu to one that you "prefer" ,then the WHOLE OS is junk!l what a joke! Brings me back to my analogy, you might as well be judging an entire car over it's choice of a radio and nothing else.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Actually it is ver6close to legit. With cars I could care less. Once again you're reasserting that you don't care about Google's bad design decisions and anyone who hates it should be lambasted.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Again, it's not a legit as this is very clearly just your own preferences about non-critical features that have nothing to do with the function of the device. But you still can't admit thatt to yourself. If you. Eede call recording, you would have a legitimate reason to stick with 8. But rounded corners and not wanting to select the style of recently used app layout is not a legit reason to say 9 is TERRIBLE. at all. What so ever.

Who said I think rounded corners are a bad design? I think it's a pleasing look. Rather than hard corners on everything.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Only place in the world for rounded corners is on a ladies Heine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I don't like pie. I really don't like pie. I've tried it on three different phones.

I don't know if it compares to eyePhone or not as I've never had and don't want one.

Call me whatever you want. I've likely been called worse but those who love me. :p

I don't like it, Sam I am.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
If minute layout changes are so apparent to you, I'd call you nitpicky
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Can't use Swift Installer.

Can't get rid of all the colored bubbles.

There's other things I don't like, but not coming to mind.

It kinda reminds me of lollipop. I hated lollipop. I never had a phone with lollipop. I think that's what got me into rooting and on this forum.

I'll never have a phone with pie, as long as I can help it.

To each his own.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
what if android Q is 95%+ identical to pie?

https://beebom.com/android-q-vs-android-pie/

situation is like people on windows xp in 2014.

or

grand parents and technology.

none of the above will ever admit defeat.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Never heard if swift, or needed it. But you can just as easily install hex and use that. Unless your stubborn as well as nitpicky.

.colored bubbles? What?

For the most part, you won't get a phone with pie in about 4 months because 10 is coming next. Lolipop was only a year as well. You are aware that the OS updates every year, right?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I don't know hex, but will check it out.

I hope 10 is a change for the better, like Marshmallow was over lollipop.

Like I said, call all the names you want. I got pretty thick skin after spending 20 years in Uncle Sam's Navy, half on submarines. :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
You litteraly said call u all the names I want. Why do you keep pointing that out? Did you handle munitions in the Navy?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Some were nukes
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
I think you missed my point. Boom booms make the brain forget things.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
edited for the benefice of mankind.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Again many on Reddit have cited this not just me. Rounded corners on a browser doesn't bother me. You think everything coming out of Google is fine. Again what I have said is a valid reason to stay on 8.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Oh, the internet said it's bad... So it's bad.. right.

Go buy an IOS if Google sucks so much? Ilitteraly don't understand why you buy an Android if you HATE having to modify it to the way you like? That's the whole point. If you think every version of the OS is going to be set up the way YOU like it out of the box, then idk what to tell you. You can easily fix the recents menu with a simple app that is made by Samsung, but that would be to easy, then what would you complain about?

As I've stated, I get why people who need call recording dog on 9. But you have no leg to stand on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Oh the Internet says the same thing that means it's true. You literally don't understand Android for years wasn't a blatant straight uo copy of iOS till Pie. Why do I have to do it through an app when staying on older software does the same. Still looks ugly. As I stared you love shilling. Ha I don't need to buy iOS. I'll just buy a older phone with older software.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
whoo hoo bober troll! you can do it!

root root root, dont let him convince you that your own thoughts aren't better than his!

you are your own man and unique. don't ever change!

:highfive::laugh::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Ha I'm winning this battle.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
lol I know. just the fact that u made hum post 3 or 4 pages in a row is quite the feat. my dear friend. keep it up.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Seems to be the case.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
who had notification toggles first? Android. You keep trying to paint Android as this copy cat OS, when it's not. I'm not shilling I'm pointing out your flawed logic and your weak argument for why pie "sucks". I already agreed that there are legit use cases where Android 8 is a better option, seeing as Google deviced to remove call recording in order to avoid potential issues in US states where 2 party consent is required

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I'm convinced that if the majority of people on Reddit decided to jump off a bridge, you would be right there with them, you seem to be one of those majority is right people.

I'm glad that you decided to come in here and troll me, easily proving my username as legit. No one tagged you. No one was talking about you. You just decided to interject yourself, most likely to take the thought of suicide off your mind since that's what you were trying to project on me while you were stalking.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Who had horizontal tab switcher first? iOS. You are shilling lol in terms of design decisions
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
I didn't know this was a battle, but now that I think about the suicide remarks, makes sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Not really
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
It's a fact. Not up for debate. iOS copied Android and implemented notification toggles.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Here's a fact not up for debate Android copied the horizontal app switcher on iOS and rounded notifications
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Wait, so if iOS goes horizontal, and Android HAS to go vertical. Does that mean the next major phone/OS operating system has to go diagonally?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bandario:
Nice job turning this thread into a cesspit. You should both be banned, this is inane.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Oh yeah! That's anything thing that I don't like about Pie. Thanks!

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Naturally. Duh
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Imagine your debating something with someone. But then out of the blue a third party comes in and tell you to jump off a building. What do you do?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
No it stays vertical like it should be

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Imagine shilling so hard
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
But then that OS would be COPYING ANDROID! and you made it clear that copying is BAD!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Not at all, you just don't have an answer to why it's different. So you arehiding behind multiple excuse, it's off topic ,"it wasn't even an analogy", your just trolling, ect.

It's a legitimate question, I want to know why you believe that it's not alright if phones have similar features, but it's alright that cars do. I can't go to another website and ask that, Because that is your opinion I'm asking for.

No they are not lmfao. You say 9 sucks because of 1 design element, and the *changable* layout of the recents menu. It's laughable that you say I'm trolling when I am simply trying to discuss why you believe that 9 is so different from 8. God forbid I disagree with you, then I'm "trolling". What a joke.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
2 design elements. And no it's a dumb question in another failed attempt at trolling

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Yes they are lmfao
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
1 design element. The recents menu is easily changed ,youre just toostubborn to admit that to make a point.

Now it's a "dumb question". This is the same type of illlogical discussions that lead to the election of trump. Do t like the question? Or it's answer? Deny, deflect, disregard. (That's another analogy, in case you still have no idea what that is).

Seriously, just answer me 1 question that I've asked probably 10 times. Why is it ok for cars to have similar features, but phones can't? I can't ask it anywhere else because I'm asking for your opinion. What's so hard about that? Don't want to admit your illlogical reasoning?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
It's 2 lol NopeI already previewed it and it's still ugly You're just in denial as usual. What lead to Trump's election is the chosen one was simply terrible.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
You make absolutely no sense. It's still ugly, even though you can change it back to exactly how it is in 8? You will say anything to justify your false claims that the design element changes make pie suck. It's simply not true, there are litteraly 2 changes. One of the. Is so minor only a test would get upset at it, and the other is easily reverted back to the old way.

I'm not in denial over anything, I know the actual difference between 8 and 9, and it's call recording. We already went over why Google removed it. Other than that, there really aren't any major changes that a user can notice. Most of it is the coding that runs Android.

And your comment about how trump got elected is a great example of the way you think. Hilary wasn't the best choice, and I did t vote for her, bit she would have been world's better than trump, hands down. Any day, every day. We can just stop now, your clearly mentally handicapped.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
I make perfect sense. My claims are actually true unlike yours. You are in denial.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
There's no denial. You hate pie based on subjective things that have no effect on how the operating system works. It has nothing to do with how well or not pie works. You can easily revert the OS to look the way you prefer, but for some reason, you refuse to do it and choose to stay on an old OS because "pie sucks".
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
You're clearly in denial. I have actually downloaded the task changer thingy from Good Lock to get a preview and it's not the same as it was on Oreo. It clearly does since rolodex is easier than Apple style recents.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
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No denial, you just have no idea what your talking about, or doing.

Looks the same on mine. Both for the expanded and list view.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
You're still in denial. I have tried it and no it's not the same and it's ugly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
It's literally the same. You keep accusing me of trolling, yet that's all your doing. I'm done with this.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Because I have tried it and it doesn't quite have the same look as on Oreo. I have Good Lock currently installed so you can't say that I don't know what I'm talking about/trolling.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Nah, your trolling. It's the same. Your argument was ****.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Nah I'm not. I have tried it and I tried it again. Still isn't the same as on Oreo.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
I am so confused on what the heck is happening in here ?

Bober's troll is getting trolled by a troll....and they're getting cheered on? What is going on in here??

Edit: wait...maybe we're ALL getting trolled.?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Nope. I fathered two and was good, right up to getting snipped. :good::cool:

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Oh, we're all getting trolled alright.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
lol the force is strong with this one!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
It's to be expected when this thread itself was troll derived.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Actually, this very thread, in which you participate, lists many reasons folks don't like the pie.

You should read it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
He refuses to read it and yet accuses me of trolling lol. So ironic.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] brooon:
Folks, back to topic please. I'm still on Oreo, as with the beginning of the year I decided to immediately roll back. Happy so far.

Besides a few things, I miss the global dark mode etc. So I'm thinking about trying PIE again.

My question is: did things get better in the meanwhile? Battery?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
And bober, too, apparently.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Don't do it!

You can maybe most everything dark with themes and Swift Installer.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Screenshots of pull down, settings, Google Discover and Google Assistant.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Here's mine. Very similar to yours.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Yes it is.

What are you using?

I was trying to encourage brooon to stay on Oreo, becauss he was interested in pie's dark mode.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Swift just like you
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
It's curious to me, that your Google has a black background and mine has gray, when I choose black in personalization settings.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I was a long long holdout for Oreo. I too held on to Oreo as long as I possibly could. I bounced back and forth many times. I thought Pie was horrible when I used it..back to Oreo I went. Then as Pie got updated several times it became better. But I can totally understand why users still like Oreo. There are things you cant do on Pie that you can on Oreo. With GRX Touchwiz settings on Oreo there is no need for root. You can theme, change font colors change clock color all that. But once I did decide to jump to Pie I really did like it. And if you check back in this thread you will see I held back for a long time. Bottom line, what works for me doesn't work for the next person. So I'm not here to say which is better. If I could I would have a Note9 on Oreo and one on Pie. Heck I still have a Note 3 on Jellybean[emoji1787][emoji23] so I get it. Stay Frosty everyone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] qnc:
Still holding out on Oreo too, I downgraded Verizon version to XAA unbranded and blocked the services with package disabler pro.

I just bought another with note 9 8.1 from EBAY. since package disabler pro is not working anymore used the adb commands to disable.

Second for work, DEX mode and media player for the car.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Flash the modem(CP) of a different level firmware and you won't get updates either.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
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It's back on the Play Store fyi
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] qnc:
I'll have to try that out if I have to reset.

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I have tried from the play store which says that it is purchased, but it fails to load license.

Dev has not answered my multiple inquiries.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
So you did a factory reset of your phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] qnc:
No not currently. If i reset the phone again I may try to flash the modem(CP) as said above to block upgrade.

I did reset in the past to try to get Disabler package pro working again and no dice does not load license.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Oh that's what I'm worried about if I have to factory reset my phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Not long till we change this thread to " It's back to Pie and this time it's forever". ? Can't wait .
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Both the wife's and my Verizon branded Note 9s are on Oreo, 8.1.0, ARL1, December 2019...er...2018, that is :cyclops:

I was using Package Disabler Pro, that I bought from the developer's web site, but one day not too long ago it just crapped out on both phones. I contacted the Dev and he sent a link to download, but no code, so I couldn't get anywhere. After two or three back and forth emails I gave up.

The wife's is being held on ARL1 with CCSWE App Manager and mine had the ADB commands done.

I need to get off my butt and do the ADB commands on hers.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
december 2019 is in one month. :svetius:

:D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Ya! I downloaded it from Sky-Net, duh!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
What do you mean it capped out?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Auto-not-so-corect dropped the 'R' for me. :rolleyes:

That was supposed to be 'crapped' out.

I guess it did kinda cap out too. As in, reach end of life.

It just quit. I went to open it, when I was troubleshooting a Google girl failure and it just wouldn't open. I checked on the wife's, that was not having any issues, and it wouldn't open the, either.

I don't know what happened and the developer didn't elaborate. He just sent me a link and instructed me to download it again, but I couldn't do anything with the new app because he didn't and wouldn't send a new activation code. Neither Note 9 had taken any OS or security updates, so I can't figure what killed it.

I'm going to try to get to performing the ADB commands on the wife's, this weekend.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
I think because they got booted from the Play Store and that's why the app wouldn't open. I paid for the app again on the play store and uninstalled the old version and it's back to normal.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I shouldn't have had any issues, since I got it directly from the developer's web site and not the Play Store and hadn't Taken any updates, but I tried to get a fix, twice and then moved on to ADB commands.

The hardest part was finding the appropriate apps on the Verizon model. All of the instructors have you disable an app that is not on the Verizon model.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Oh I see