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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sputnik767:
To each their own. I'm too old and way too busy now to deal with rooting, customizing, etc. Used to spend hours on it when I was in my 20s, the results were always disappointing. I have only a few requirents. The phone has to be secure (my corporate access apps and email account will not work on a rooted phone), reliable, and I have to have a way to set default apps. Camera has to be good but I don't care much for too many camera features or pro mode. I have a full frame dslr for when I want to take real pictures. And I really don't give a crap about filters. Never used them and never will.

So, apple is out of the question mainly because I can't set default apps (open Google maps instead of Apple maps for example), but I honestly think they are overpriced for substandard tech. And I can't think of any iPhone that comes close to the battery life of the note 9.

In summary, looking back, I don't miss having an unlocked bootloader phone. In fact, I can't think of a single good reason to root anymore. None of the custom roms or kernels are actually an improvement, and in my experience, they never have been. I actually like the new android.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] willhemmens:
Not disagreeing with you but there certainly are still some good reasons (in my opinion) for rooting.

Disabled high volume warrning with headphones (I personally found this very annoying)

System wide ad blocking

More efficient kernels

Use of Samsung's built-in call recorder

Battery charge limiting

The option to install AOSP based ROMs (Although the lack of HWC means battery life is poor)

Biometric unlock after reboot

More theming options

Use any app with the dual app tool
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Da-BOSS:
I am using my phone like any person who have a decent knowledge of how Android works. I have telegram and whatsapp but no facebook.. no xda/tapatalk... bec. all through Chrome... why would I use an App who is known to be a battery drainer? lol and yes... I use it under direct sun... do you think I don't have a job to work to? I dare you can have that SOT on Pie... impossible to achieve that on Pie but Oreo is pretty easily can go 8 hour of SOT... and also every app I literally use work with Oreo too... no matter what!

sorry but Pie is rushed ****ty ROM...

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Pie is pretty ****ty compared to Oreo... and if you are talking about security and you care about security.. well... you/we shouldn't root the device on the first place! :D no benefit for those monthly security if you are rooted :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Bottom line..what works for others doesn't work for all. My point is I have seen others touting 9hr screen on times on Pie..when asked what they did..."crickets". As others have posted, I was getting better battery on Oreo for how I use the device. Since going to latest Pie its been a bit better. But to tell people they can't think one is better than the other...well its personal choice and to me a good talking point. I like to see what other users think..lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] disturbd1:
Exactly, you don't use your phone as the average person does. I know approximately zero people who do all social interaction and usage of other informational portals strictly using a browser. Your argument against Pie is irrelevant in that respect. Oreo gets you better battery life? Great, use it. But don't go making absolute statements about it in comparison to Pie when you know you aren't anywhere near the average user. Even if you were, 1+ days of battery usage on a single charge is ****ing fantastic. To state otherwise is fallacious. By the way: how can you attest to the battery consumption of an app if you haven't used it personally? And I don't mean *ever*, I mean recently. Because clearly you're one of those "I have a system" guys, who thinks it's still appropriate to freeze or uninstall a ****load of apps. Android has come a long way in the last 5+ years, but apparently not far enough for the elitists. [emoji849]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
to state that one OS is preferable is one thing. its an other to have a smear campaign and post when ever there is a slight chance to plug in comments on how oreo is the best thing in the world and going on and on for months about it( yes months! its not ajoke). i mean we get the picture. it's just getting very old very fast that's all.

i believe - tha manager man- will recognize him self in my comments and appreciate what I'm tring to say and learn how to restrain themselves just a tad. stating opinions is ok.... repetitively and in the intent of swaying the masses is an other. Oreo is just an iteration. were past it now. so will pie in a few months. lets not live in the past and look ahead towards a brighter future.

anyways lets keep calm and carry on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Da-BOSS:
Can you see my posts again and screen shots? I don't charge my battery 100% remember? I always start at 90% so... I can achieve even 10 hours... your screenshots battery starts at 100% so... :rolleyes: big difference!

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Yes... debloating is a must for Android... stating otherwise well... it is your opinion and I respect it :) I used Facebook/xda tapatall/ etc... personally so... I know which one is battery draining and which is not :)

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Discussions is good for all of us ;) :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Da-BOSS:
I will do it once I get the chance! :) It won't be exactly 10 hours but.. more near within 9~10 hours range :o
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] michelino159:
To know that we have made over time comparisons between the autonomy on Oreo and Pie and there is no big difference. A 10% that is due more to the consumption on mobile data. If you go more on wifi there is no difference. Is the choice of each software that uses on the phone but only for a 10% difference is it worth not enjoying the latest software updates to such a wonderful phone? I was also looking at other profile forums for users who torment their phone with Oreo, the black theme, debloating, new kernel and have a lower autonomy than those with Pie who use the phone as they bought it. It does not mean that you have high autonomy if you give the brightness to a minimum and listen to music and watch movies.

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Personally, I have the stock software, I do not use the black theme, everything is open, I have uninstalled only the Microsoft programs and the battery live is very good, the phone keeps me all day and at night I leave it on the wireless pad until morning. I enjoy the phone, not the other way around
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] g1-and-only:
Thank you. I did this after downgrading to 8.1 from 9.0 after paying 3.75 for package disabler for the 3rd time though the website and still haven't received a code for it and that was 3 days ago, I wouldn't go though that site anymore because I'm starting to think it's a scam. They haven't changed my card anymore but I have contacted them several times and they keep telling me to check my spam to no avail. This method that you have suggested works perfect and I think you greatly as I'm now using the last Oreo December update with the June 9.0 pie modem(CP) and it works great with no update notification. I'm staying here as I like the speed of the camera and for night shots I use Google camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] psychosunshine:
I have a Samsung Note 9, SM-960U, AT&T branded, in the US. It has been upgraded to Pie. (Yes, Snapdragon)

And, I really want Oreo back.

My Baseband Version is: N960USQS2CSGB

Would a new Note 9 still have Oreo. And, could I just disable automatic updates in the developer settings to keep Oreo? Or do I need to use a package disabler?

My main reason for wanting Oreo back is because I really liked and want my call recording back. I was using Boldbeast.

But, I also don't like the new camera UI in Pie, either.

Roaduardo, I agree with your initial post. I just want a Note 9 that does everything! Without having to root.

And, all I see with every new upgrade is functionality that is taken away.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Yes, a new in box n960u would come with oreo. You'll want to "set up" the phone without a Sim card or wifi connected at first to avoid any updates being auto-installed.

Then use a computer to disable com.sec.android.soagent with ADB.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] psychosunshine:
Are you saying that disabling automatic updates in the developer settings, is not enough? I will still need to disable com.sec.android.soagent with ADB?

Then will that continue to work after reboot?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
I disabled the other software apk (& left the com.sec.android.soagent enabled):

com.wssyncmldm

That did the trick for me, no more prompts to update.

I also disabled automatic software updates in Developer Options....... not sure if that's necessary when disabling the apks, but more of an overabundance of caution never hurt to prevent unwanted updates.

I'm actually on Pie, but, still on bootloader 1, in the event there's a breakthrough in the rooting of the SD version.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Yes that's what I'm saying.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] psychosunshine:
I do not have the wssyncmldm file or the blue icon. Only the Green icon and a weird white one which is com.ws.dm

My disabled packages are:

package:io.ismconnect.att.devicealive

package:com.samsung.android.aircommandmanager

package:com.google.android.webview

package:com.sec.android.soagent

package:com.ws.dm

package:com.sec.android.emergencylauncher

Will disabling com.sec.android.soagent and com.ws.dm be enough to stop any Pie updates? I would not want to buy a new phone and then have it upgrade.

Are there other things that I need to do to make sure that I don't get any updates?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] FtaWolf:
If u got At&t disable package com.ws.dm

Will stop the updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
What about Verizon?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I cannot figure out how to get to the place where I can perform ADB commands.

Directions say to select PTP mode, but I do not have that as a choice in the status bar, when I connect my Note 9 on Oreo to Windows 10 laptop. I think that is why no commands work in the Powershell as administrator window, opened in the Platform Tools folder.

Do I start in Recovery or Download Mode?

I also read that ADB commands can be performed in ODIN, but I don't see where to type.

In Power Shell for Fastboot I receive the following error, when entering "adb devices"
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] qnc:
At this point in the game how cam I get a note 9 with oreo. Samsumg cannot guarantee them. All the third parties in have connected with all have upgraded to pie.

I have. Note 9 and took to back to oreo, but need another one.

Also, I have seen it mentioned that you can get a n9600 that is rootable, is this still the case?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] patensas:
Since when does Samsung update their devices and started shipping the Note 9 with Pie out of the box? Sounds strange as they guarantee 2 major updates and such a move would force them to update to Android R.

Sounds a bit strange they would do such a thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] qnc:
Yeah I thought so too, so I asked thstcquestion a d the rep told me that they all ship with 9 now.

I'm going to get another rep a d see if they tell me the same thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
1) Open the folder on the desktop where you have ADB

2) Just have your phone powered on as usual, not in recovery or download mode.

3) If you haven't granted the PC permission to read files on your phone, look for the pop-up on your phone soon after connecting to the PC.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
That worked, thank you!

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I have tried removing com.wssyncmldm with and without the --user 0 with similar results

I'm starting to wonder if I even have a com.wssyncmldm
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
It may have a different name, depending on carrier software/etc.....

Use this app (or similar APK info app) to identify which apps you have:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.osp.pmanagerinfo
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I downloaded that app, searched "update" and "wssy" and read every name and file name. Nothing found.

I used ADB to disable 3 update apps.

CCSWE App Manager shows that those three apps are disabled.

Screenshot attached.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Ok, after scouring the interwebs for which all is need to be disabled on a Verizon Samsung phone, I added another to the list, com.policydm, which is for security policy updates, just to be on the safe side and recommended from an xda thread in the Note 7 forum.

BTW, no update has come to my Verizon Note 9, since uninstalling Package Disabler Pro, because it failed on me and using ADB commands to disable the there apps shown in my previous post.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] psychosunshine:
I just purchased a new Note 9, one month ago, directly from Samsung.com here in the US. It came with Oreo on it. Not Pie. I bought the AT&T variant and installed the US/Unlocked firmware. Then disabled the appropriate software update apps via ADB. I will be side loading almost all my apps. I don't really like the Play Store and its way of secretly installing updates. Play Protect scans all apps installed via the Play Store whether you want them to or not. Besides, if you side load. The app developer doesn't have to comply with the Play Store rules. Just use common sense in choosing your apps from good sources. I use Boldbeast from the developer site, rather than the Play Store. As, it has increased functionality, in naming the contact that is being recorded.

The AT&T firmware does not have com.wssyncmldm. But, the US/Unlocked firmware does have it.

https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-note/galaxy-note9-512gb--unlocked--sm-n960uzbfxaa/
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Good post, but can't help asking, you paid $1299 for a Note 9?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Did you have the wssyncmldm file to disable?

I couldn't find it on my Verizon version and some here speculated that file is only on the unlocked version.

Just curious.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] psychosunshine:
Yes, I paid $1249 for a new Note 9. That's how much I hate Pie. My original Note 9 went to Pie and before I knew it. My favorite things about it were broken.

I'm not sure about the Verizon version. But, the AT&T version did not have com.wssyncmldm. My phone only had it after I put the US/Unlocked firmware on it. Then I disabled it with ADB.

On the AT&T version. I had:

Green Icon: com.sec.android.soagent (v4.4.11)

Black Icon: com.ws.dm (v4.3.18)

[IMG="ATT_Note9_Pie_Settings"]http://foxautomation.com/android/Settings.jpg[/IMG]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
edited
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
Small price to pay for happiness.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Fam, want to donate me some happiness too?! Jk.

That's crazy man, $1300 on a new Note 9 in 2019. You got it though. And I mean way more than the phone, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
My S5 that I bought in 2016 came with Marshmallow out of the box and my old S4 that I boguht back in 2014 came with Kitkat out of the box.

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I still have Package Disabler Pro installed and the Pie bomb threat has gone away.

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I paid $832.49 for my Verizon Note 9 and as soon as the Pie update notification landed I went to my local supermarket to buy a Google Play Gift Card to buy Pacakge Disabler Pro. Since installing it back in March or April I have remained on Oreo. I get asked by othe Note 9 users on why I don't update to Pie and my response is I hate iOS and that's what Pie basically is. That;s how much I hate Pie and can't stand it. Whenever I see Pie I just want to barf.

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I checked on Swappa yesterday and I saw a used Note 9 with Oreo for sale.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Lol. Pie isn't "IOS" like. Android 10 will be slightly like IOS Since they removed the navigational buttons in favor of gestures.

But Android 9 vs 8 had minimal differences. Call recording removed, a more efficient/aggressive ram management and dark mode added. Man I swear y'all are some major drama queens over nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
There is a slight workaround.

Caveat's:

it's limited to one specific app (at a time).

You need to install good lock & sound assistant. (I also recommend using task changer, multistar, and niceshot for the extra features and customizability they offer)

If you install sound assistant through good lock, you can set a specific app to play audio through one specific source while the remainder of the audio is routed through your phone. It's exactly what you asked for.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Lol if you compare them side by side Pie is pretty much a clone of iOS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
colors and shapes is one thing. the system functionalites and user experiance are another. can't say iOS comes close in the latter.

its like compairing a tomato to an apple. both round and red. but that's where the comparisons ends: at the visuals.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Back your claim and point out the things that changed?

I'd really like to see why you believe that Android 9 all the sudden became IOS? haven't seen that one before, although I have seen a couple people call Samsung (when they should really be blaming Google) terrorists for removing call recording. Man some people really go the extra mile with the drama.

8 vs 9 looks basically the same. Pulldown notification bad with settings toggle from the top, IOS has notification toggle from the top, and added settings toggle from the bottom a few years ago, COPYING Android..

8 vs 9 still has dedicated home screen and app drawer, IOS uses one home screen to display all apps.

Litteraly, very few things changed visually going from 8 to 9. The bigger change visually will be when 10 comes out and removes the navigational buttons on the bottom. The actual changes came in the form of code deep in the OS. Things that don't make a visual difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Recents are basically the same. You clearly haven't compared both side by side.

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I have used both side by side and the similarities couldn't have been more clear.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
That's weak as ****. The recent apps look the same? All Samsung did was change the default view to a full card rather than the 1/3 card size they had before.

Not only that, but basically everything about note 9's UI is modular. My recent apps look nothing like IOS because I wasn't a fan of the change to full size cards, and I also don't like the other option of just having the name of the app. I didn't mind the half card view from 8, so I changed it to quarter cards with task view.

There are a few actual reasons to be unsatisfied with pie, but claiming that it's "too much like IOS" is a bunch of ****.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Lol no that's not weak. Look at default stock Pie. Recents look exactly the same.

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Oh and the shape of the notifications look exactly just like iOS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Rectangular box with a radius? Lmao.

You know now that I think about it. Both iOS and Android are basically the same

they both even have a settings menu.

both have wifi.

Both even have the a clock on the lockscreen.

There are no differences at all. Well except for the home screen layout, the settings menu layout, the notifications layout, the fact that you can change just about any aspect of the Android interface, oh and the customizable toggles in Android that you can arrange to your liking, unless apple has copied that ability now as well?

/s
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Lmao go look at a video comparing the two. Rounded corners just like on iOS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Nah I think the bigger conspiracy is that they both use lithium batteries.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Wut?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
I'm making fun of your absurd assertion that pie looks like IOS because of rounded corners and full card multi tasking. As if those two changes makes the phone somehow unusable?

Like there are legit reasons to not like pie over Oreo. But you have no legit reason to say 9 is worse than 8. Everything you said that is "wrong" with it is laughably cosmetic. Rounded notification corners and the default multi tasking view is a full card? It's Android. You can easily just change the multi view to a different set up like I showed you. R you could ***** about dumb stuff. Your choice
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
If you use both side by side or watch videos those things make it an iOS clone. Google's CEO is obsessed with making Android morph into iOS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
Huh, I had NO idea that Google's CEO was Making design choices on behalf of Samsung?

You can just change the recent apps to look different, since that's how Android works.

You just keep digging this hole of nonsense.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Samsung puts their skin on Android. We're talking stock. Hello!! Wake up!! Actually you are

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Why do I have to use Good Lock when I can just stay on older software.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bober_is_a_troll:
I don't understand how you can be so obtuse.

You do realize that stock Android and samsung have different implementations of the recents menu? They even have different notification setups, and the settings menu is also slightly different.

So many false claims.

Why use goodlock she you could use older software? Because that's the point of Android. Of you want an interface that never changes, then maybe you should just convert to iOS and leave Android for good. You'll never be satisfied with your attitude.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Lol no it's pretty much the same with some slight additions. How blind can you be? No the notification shape is the same lol You're simply in denial.