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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Is the bootloader version shown in the baseband version, just before the Android version?

Example : my baseband version shows as

N960USQU1ARL1

So the bootloader version are the eighth and ninth characters?

Is like to know where to look, in case my phone updates on its own.

If it were to update to Pie, that would mean that turning off auto update settings and disabling the system update apps in Adhell failed.

In that case would the only option be to use ADB commands?

Do you recommend performing the ADB commands instead of relying on AdHell?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Correct your bootloader version is the U1 before ARL1. So if you upgrade to Pie as long as it says U1 you can still downgrade to Oreo. Yes you can use adb command to disable updates. Just locat Software updates..should be 2 and just disable them. I use Package disabler pro but I think K-alz posted the adb command, either will work. I was able to get package disabler pro for free so that is what I always us.[emoji106]

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A OG NOTE 3

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I can't comment on Adhell I stopped using it on Note 8 long ago as it caused issues for me, but I know others use it without problems.

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
i like to think that this thread's lamentations is like the morning after someone getting sick after drinking too much the night before and slinging shallow promises.

everyone knows its BS... they'll be back...lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Guyinlaca:
I gave Pie a try thinking that staying Oreo was futile, but flashed back to Oreo after one day. The UI was fast but so many elements bothered me.

-The notification system is horrendous. Lock screen notifications have been replaced with tiny icons that tell you nothing. Always on Display uses dark colored icons that are hard to differentiate. The pill shaped heads up notifications are ugly and buggy.

-Themes are broken. Every dark theme I tried had black on gray volume and brightness sliders. In addition, some apps had unreadable text/icons.

-The Quick Panel icons are too big and clash with everything else on the phone.

-The ability to hide the the navigation bar at will is great. They should bring this back.

-In general, the bubble design of Pie is excessive and ugly. One UI could be made a lot better by simply adding the option to make edges squared.

The Pie update feels cartoonish and amplifies the worst elements of stock Pie. Android Q looks to be getting better gesture navigation and customization so hopefully that carries over to Samsung. In the meantime, Oreo is stable and fast so I will stick with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
For me I need my Hulk Green..I can get it on my At&t N9 with Oreo[emoji106]View attachment 4727324

Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
You dont need to turn off updates after rolling back to oreo.

Just flash annother CP and : No updates anymore

Want updates back via ota ? : Flash CP matching to the rom

Works only with unrooted devices ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Or disable enable[emoji16][emoji16]

Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Osmoderma:
Wish I would have stayed in Oreo on my Note 9... Since Pie none of my MS Office apps works anymore. Special problem with Office 365 in German cloud on all Pie devices ... bad decision
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Secondlaw:
I'm pretty bummed out that my ACR is no longer functional. If I revert back to Oreo, is all of my stuff lost?

Can someone provide a link on how to do it?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] abs0lut3z33r0:
I purchased a used Note9 Exynos for Oneplus 5T and i am regretting it . I am unable to get a stable system after root (on one occassion systemUI stopped responding frequently and fingerprint,iris does not work due to failure of pin/pwd verification).

I am thinking of selling the note 9 or may be just try oreo if its possible to downgrade
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] jameslapc2:
I like One UI from a theming standpoint but there's some things I like about Oreo more such as it not forgetting bluetooth devices. This is annoying because every time it does I have to reset my Galaxy Watch. I stay on Pie however because I like the theming with Swift and because I'm not in the mood to get my device to where I like it again. I will downgrade though if Ellwiggy does finally get root.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
Umidigi it is as my next phone. I'm tired of buying these expensive bricks. Pay it one time ($250 sounds really good) and get it over with. No more financing for me. I want my bill to go back to normal for one time in my damn life [emoji23]
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] a63548:
I've also been on the fence about One UI, and Android Pie in general. I feel that the UI in AOSP Android has been declining release after release. I've used Android since the days of Cupcake on the G1, and loved every Android update up to when they started to force the white UI. While there are many things I like about material design, why not give people options, instead of taking away features/dark themes? I honestly loved KitKat, and miss some of those design elements. When I first saw One UI, I was shocked. Why introduce curved notifications so I can see a small spot of my wallpaper? To me in general, I despise the artificial rounded design aspects of One UI/Pie. Why not give people options, or a choice? I really wish Google would have created a theme engine similar to substratum/layers in AOSP where the user could choose what they wanted. However, the way it seems Google has been going lately, they can't wait to be Apple... I miss the Nexus devices.

However, this isn't just about design elements. On the Note 9, which is one of the first devices I have not run custom ROMs, or rooted, and I have been extremely happy. Everything has worked perfectly, and extremely well. The only thing I missed was system wide adblock, but Adhell filled that gap perfectly. While I do find myself missing flashing various ROMs, I went with the Note 9 knowing that would pretty much never be an option on the Snapdragon variant. To me, almost everything about the Note 9 spec wise is perfect. I absolutely love having a microSD cart again, and everything just works great. I also feel Samsung has done an excellent job with adding features.

I have been using One UI, but immediately had to theme it with a black substratum theme which helped enormously, and made me feel at home. However, while everything has been working well, I tried playing some hi-resolution 24bit FLAC music in PowerAMP and Neutron, and after the One UI update, I cannot for the life of me get it to output beyond 16bit/44hz. Tried researching this a little bit, and users on the S9/S9+ are facing the same issue with OneUI/Pie.

On One UI, have any of you successfully been able to play hi-resolution music correctly in any player? I am using using high end Shure earphones in the headphone jack, so it's nothing involving Bluetooth/USB C, or something like that. Went back to Oreo, and it outputs correctly. If anyone can figure this out, I would definitely switch back to One UI, as I do want to continue getting security updates. Any help would be much appreciated :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
This is why I went back.

Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] poncespr:
I have great battery life on Pie Sprint N9.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
One element which has not been mentioned is how Samsung together with many others don't warrant their product if not purchased from the region intended for use.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Moe5508:
I have downgraded to Oreo as well...just general overall functionality and smoothness of the device is better...I had frequent crashes and freezes on Pie for so many apps and UI...interface was slow and not smooth. Back on Oreo now and its just I have a new device...the way a Note 9 is supposed to operate. I couldn't be happier...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
It's been been like this since the Note 3 days, the original OS out of the box always seems to work better. Not as much as the current Note 9 but still noticable - Oreo v Pie on N9.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] _GRIZZLY_:
@up, i agree in 100%. Phone with first fabric OS is the most done. On the Pie i have worse signal than Oreo. Now signal strength is only little better than Note 5 on the Nougat.

Can I back to oreo from Pie with march security patch?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] intruda119:
Thats most companies. You take the risk of importing a device. Dont blame the company lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Security patch will be that of the firmware you are on. You can't keep a newer security patch and downgrade to a previous version. Maybe I read that wrong..lol sorry. You can downgrade to Oreo if boot loader is the same, has nothing to do with security patch.

Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] _GRIZZLY_:
Thanks for answer. Yes, you good read. So only after security patch i can back to oreo, great
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Make sure boot loader is same. If your boot is U2 you cant flash back to U1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
You basically said what I had already said.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
That's exactly how I felt. I had pie on a Pixel XL and a Pixel 2 XL. The cartoonish, bubble quick settings icons were enough to turn me off, but all of the other negative comments and bugs reported from Note 9 Pie users sealed the deal.

I reminded me of the stock when lollipop came out. Not as severe a contrast as lollipop from everything android has been, but the same kind of unnecessary change.

I hated lollipop so, that I never had a phone running it.

I still have a Moto running KitKat. :D

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Please be more specific about this process.

I'm not familiar with CP.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KingVekxin:
The funny thing about this whole thread is ya see it with every new release of Android. Some people like it some people don't. Some people go out of their way to let others know they don't like it and why and personally I just don't get that. there are usually who like the upgrades, the changes, the features but we aren't making threads about it or at least I haven't seen them. Then again Android is an os about freedom, change and flexibility. So yes there will be changes, evolutions with each new version. So if you're a person who doesn't like change or at least very minimal then maybe iPhones would be up your alley.

I've run just about every version of Android from the blocky mess of the old days to now and which one comes with their ups and downs. They're greats and their bads but geez... You don't have to make an entire thread about why you don't like a certain version ya know? That's just looking for something to talk about
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Virgo_Guy:
It's not just an Android version change but also a complete overhaul of a UI change which is brand new for Samsung.Hence, a thread being created by the OP looks just alright to me where everyone can offer a fair share of personal "tastes" and opine on.

Having said so, I absolutely like OneUI and going back to Oreo with Experience UI is a huge NO for me. Personally , probably it would feel like trying to go to EMUI of Huawei from OxygenOS of OnePlus.

Samsung needs to fine polish "Pie" that I strongly agree.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
To me its nice that people can talk about Android. Nothing wrong with a thread devoted to it. I for one like reading what others think. I'm not being a jerk that's not my style so if its coming off that way sorry. I don't think its that big of a deal to have the thread. Just my opinion.[emoji106][emoji106]

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE

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+1

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] high_voltage:
This, I love the UI and it's ideas (I would only add back the oreo multitasking options into that default recents view as the "good lock" ones I don't like that much). It needs some serious work tho - bug fixes, little improvements, new modem (that is in the works currently and tested, hope it fixes the problems with the mobile/wifi - mostly reception range for the wifi is what I am looking after) and a little bit smoothness squeezed won't hurt. Not cool to see how my iphone 6s from 2015 is a lot smoother vs the 1k euro new note 9. :crying:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
CP is the Modem.

If you flash the CP File via Odin, then u changed the modem.

I flashed this rom : DBT-N960FXXS2ARL3

But i did not flashed the CP of this rom.

I flashed the CP File from this rom : DBT-N960FXXS2ARK2

And then u dont get OTA´s.

If you want back OTA´s, you have to flash the CP matching the ROM. Then u get back ota.

In my Case : If i want OTA´s back, i have to flash the CP of this ROM : DBT-N960FXXS2ARL3

This does NOT trigger KNOX.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Great tip, thanks!

How does flashing an older modem for the same device / firmware prevent OTA.

I would think that it would just try to update from that level.

Is it the mismatch between the modem version and the rest of the firmware that prevents seeing the need to update?

Which version Note 9 do you have?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
Exactly. The Missmatch between the modemversion and the rest of the firmware. It thinks its always up to date :eek: :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Brilliant!

I wonder why I've not seen this discussed, previously.

It seems much easier than removing update apps with adb or a package disabler.

Thanks, again!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] The Atomic Fart:
Hello there. I'm unclear if I can rollback to Orea now. I can't find any reference to those in my bootloader info. The only. U2 reference I see is in the Baseband version.

I've attached my firmware info. I'd really appreciate you casting an eye over it and letting me know if I'm OK to flash Oreo via Odin.

Many thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
This was discussed for the US versions in posts 42 & 43.

Looking at your baseband version it has "U2" before the software version of "CRLT".

I would say that you cannot roll back. Hopefully, I'm wrong and someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
Using Exynos Note 9 here.

At the Moment there is no new Bootloader for exynos.

So if you want to : Feel free to flash like u want.

But always doublecheck the Numbers and letters in case that we get new BL and someone tell us to late about it :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I thought you were US version my bad. As stated before my post you can only flash to same bootloader

Sent from my Still Rooted NOTE 8

You are on S2 so you can probably flash U2 but not U1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
id think you can flash what ever version of a firmware (AP)without flashing the bootlaoder (BL) whitout any problem.modem (CP) and carrier files (CSC) are also optional. so keeping a higher version of CP BL and CSC

that is greater than the OS firmware(AP) should work.

Now revision wise im not sure.

after a factory wipe( caches and data in stock recovery ) should be deleted for better success
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Da-BOSS:
I fully agree with the OP post 100% :) Oreo Forever and ever! , Thank you :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] GreenBot:
I no longer see the need for rooting any of my Android phones. I have returned to note 9 from Huawei mate 20 Pro because of the one UI update. It is beautiful, masterly crafted yet customizable. I'm loving it. I don't see how Oreo could compare with it visually and it's performance. I am happy.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
What's rooting got to do with the thread subject?

If you like pie that's great for you. Why begrudge others who don't?

I don't want anything to do with pie's changes or bugs. My Note 9 is running great on Oreo. What's better than great?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
greater.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Great! How can I make Oreo on my Note 9 greater, because I'm very happy with it right now?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
gravitybox.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
On a Snapdragon?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
yeah on a SD N9600
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Yes, I should have been more specific.

How do I make Oreo greater on an SM-N960U?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
well its a fail at that. the greater phone would have been the n9600 though. ;)

an n960f or an n would have also done great too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Actually, I used to run GB on all my rooted phones. I don't think I'm missing anything about not having gravity box on this phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
well one thing's missing for sure: root

lol anyways I'm just playing.

gn
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
True, but the only thing I was worried about not having root was preventing an OS update, but I found a way without TiBu.

I knew that, I was just egging you on.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
You're so petty I love it. I just laughed for like 20 minutes!?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
To me, that's what the interwebs are all about.

Research and messing with folks and having fun.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
and eating pizza.

lets not forget the beer and the pizza.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Just had a make shift pizza on a PITA. It worked well!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Ok I'm having Zaaa thanks guys..lol

Sorry OP

Sent from my SM-N960U Oreo Cookie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Zzzzzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ????
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] stondec100:
Sticking with Oreo on my Note 9.

Call recording is very important to me, that's why I've also declined to update to Oreo.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] _GRIZZLY_:
How disable monit anout update to Pie without root?

I disable auto update, auto update security and auto update in programming option but monit appear again.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Looking at the direction of where Google and Samsung are currently moving towards, I'm gonna buy an Exynos Note 9 to keep my Note 9 (and Oreo) capabilities fresh and living for a longer period.

Also, ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT.

I appreciate everyone's participation in this discussion. I totally don't mind folks jumping around other topics here, by the way. Unlike some others, I don't see it as a big problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
I just want a Note device with pure android running without any issues or lack of functionality. Is that too much to ask??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Props to you Roaduardo for this.

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE Pie
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Developer Edition Samsung phones. Those were the days...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I'd love to root this damn thing. Haven't rooted in over 5 years. I miss xPrivacy module on Xposed, where I can tell all of these apps to eat sh@#* when they ask for permissions that don't make sense.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
You may wish to proofread your post, but I think I know what you are saying.

In order to disable the OS update apps you will need to use a package disabler app, adb commands or what one person has reported as working, flashing an older modem / CP.

You can find details and how to's, in this thread, the other thread with similar title and these and other samsung device forums.

Edited, modern is CP, not CS as I previously posted. Apologies!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] _GRIZZLY_:
Yes, i wrote too fast, but you understood me ;).

So, flash an older modem can help?

And next question- in this forum are modem collection thread like in section for example Note3 or i will download whole older rom for my CSC?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
and why not a newer modem instead?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
The member who believes this to be successful stated that the modem is the part that looks for updates and some it is older than the rest of the firmware, the mismatch tricks it into thinking it is already updated.

I've never heard of this process and couldn't independently verify it.

That's why I worded it like I did, "one person has reported".

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It is my understanding that the modem is the CP portion of the firmware package.

Edited, modern is CP, not CS as I previously posted. Apologies!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
wonder if flashing a pie modem would also achieve the same goal. again CP would not match current firmware. and newer modem might be a good thing too.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
IDK.

Like I said, I've never heard of modem mismatch for any purpose. I searched here and the Google and could not find another instance of this process.

This causes me to be skeptical.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
I alredy have a missmatch between modem and system. but then again im rooted and dont get OTAs anyways...

but for anyone else wondering, maybe it is worth the shot.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Yeah, I know.

I really wish I could have found another reference to its use.

I'm currently using AdHell3 to disable the update apps on my Snapdragon US, Verizon version. That's working so far, but I'll soon have to redo the license key. If I can't and need another method, I plan on paying the $4 and DLing Package Disabler from the developers site as opposed to getting it from the Play Store.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
[MENTION=8132601]bober10113[/MENTION]

[MENTION=5592523]pizza_pablo[/MENTION]

You can flash every CP from 8.1 over Your 9.0.

You can flash every CP from 9.0 over Your 8.1

You can flash every CP from 9.0 over older 9.0

I mean : You can flash every CP you want ! No problems. You can always flash the Modem of the Firmware later to get OTA back.

For understatement : Every CP of Note 9 firmware of course :D
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
yeah i know.

the question is does it really stop OTA?