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[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] culiacanazo:
The problem with your vision is that it belongs to a company, Google. The answer we should be looking for, exists, and sadly, it won't be the one to get preference in implementing, because it's all it should be, that which is the opposite of what you dream, and which is what they want.

IT, should be as interoperable as picking up a payphone to dial a satellite phone, which in turn calls a rotary landline as soon as it hangs up the first call.

I can CALL anyone i like, don't matter if it's a Verizon victim, an iPhone believer, or where they might be.

But see, there's no money in that openness. Close it! GREED GREED GREED, there's money to be made on proprietarity! Only TMO to TMO this (service provider wants cut). Only iPhones face time each other (OEM wants cut). Hey, Google wants in two, and, sorry, needs a Google account for that! (Software developer wants cut!)

WHAT THE DAMNED HELL!
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] JrWriter87:
RCS messaging is now live for dual SIM phones in North America
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Hunter3U:
Just saw this also. Curious to see if anyone has gotten access outside of the tmobile variant.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] partcyborg:
}PGoogle tried to do it open. Google talk was originally a complete xmpp implementation, it even supported federation, and for a while you could talk to people with apple's old mac.com chat accounts from your Google talk account.

But nobody cared, no one integrated, and the Facebooks Twitter's and Instagrams of the world came into existence completely ignoring open standards, and as a result were able to move much faster, and as a result grew much faster. So they eventually gave up and followed suit.

This highlights an often overlooked issue with using purely open standards, which is entirely understandable. If you build your product around a open protocol with a standards body behind it, you now have a committee outside of your company who can essentially tell you what you can and can't do with your service. Want to add a cool new feature your engineers thought of? Does the web standard thing you built around support it? No? Well to bad then, have fun spending a year or more convincing that committee to approve your extension. Meanwhile your compeditor who ignored open standard just implements it, since they can, and beats you to market.

What makes matters worse, is that many of the popular "web standards" out there today have some completely atrocious technical issues, which are pretty much impossible to fix due to the people on their committee. (It turns out that "design by committee" is pretty much the worst possible way to build software, but that's a whole other post).

I'm as for open standards and freedom of provider choice as anyone, but having first hand experience with all of this I know that sadly it's not as easy as it seems in this day and age
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] culiacanazo:
I can understand that.

And that i completely ignored.

Thank you.

And yes, sad indeed.

Not yours truly.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hartleyshc:
Doesn't apply to us. As the RCS that the 6t has is T-Mobile's version of RCS and not Google's Universal Profile version. Which is why it only works on the default messages app.

So you only get RCS features with other T-Mobile phones. You won't get those features chatting with a Sprint user.

I'm still not sure why Google doesn't make a one-for-all app. Much like how Hangouts used to be, but stable and modern. If Allo had SMS support, it wouldn't be on the chopping block. Yes, in the long run we need UP RCS, but until then it could work much like iMessage does, and Hangouts did/does. It works with basic SMS unless it detects the other user is also using the app and then it turns on the extra features. Just because it has those features, it doesn't stop Google from still working on and implementing RCS support.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I dumped the entire rcs update from tmo, and it exists only in data somehow. U cannot unpack the tmo payload.bins either. I captured the update and cannot get into it. Must've been signed with their own crap. I did copy everything related to rcs from it to try and manually port over that feature to just the tmo intl users.about 80 files. The thing runs deep, now to see if it does anything.. I totally agree with you though, get with it Google.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] seniorstew:
It's up to Tmobile to support Google's RCS profile. It's tmos fault not Google's.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hartleyshc:
I'm fully aware. Google in the case is too forward thinking. They are looking at the far future for RCS. And they are looking to make money.

When RCS is implemented at the carrier level, they are buying UP RCS from Google. Google's RCS is supposedly cheaper and easier to set up than the carrier doing it themselves. And as I said before, long term, this is the best option, to fully replace SMS. But everyone has to get behind it. The manufacturers need to implement it in their texting apps (if they don't default to Google Messages), the carrier needs to implement the service. Those two groups of people alone are the hardest to work with. It's going to be a long road before RCS is enabled everywhere on every device.

What I was simply suggesting is that Google does a quick fix and implement these features on the app level until the back bone is already in place. In the rest of the world there's a good amount of carriers with UP RCS. It's not all, but it's a decent amount. In America we're at about 30%. Only Sprint has fully deployed RCS. TMobile has only done it on a handful of devices. The two largest carriers don't have it at all.

95+% of people don't care about how something is made, they just want the results. If Google Messages had all of these features built in (see my example before of just adding SMS/RCS support to Allo) people would actively change their default SMS app.

RCS is a wanted feature. People want these abilities. iMessage is the best app on iOS. Because of the features. Google can very easily make the Android version of iMessages, but the problem is fragmentation, which is the biggest issue with Android across the board. They make a million chat apps. Close them down. Open new ones. Close them down. Instead of just make 1-2 apps (commercial and enterprise).

If Google put these features in at the app level, this thread would be 1 page long. "TMobile adds RCS support for the 6t.".

"Cool."

End of thread.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] gigilie:
If u captured the whole update I can prob get it unpacked for u if u pm me link I'll try. Otherwise if someone has it installed and is rooted just run the backup.bat script that will pull sparsed imgs thru fastboot data system n all... I'm guessing it's a few changes in build prop or another prop file n maybe a few lines of code in the tmo mms version it can't be much tho... Stock Google anything's been ready for rcs for a while. I know if u install the pixel 3xl port in the oneplus 6 section it's got rcs ready to go in the Google messages app. It's a killer rom fast af...
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] :
No, I already did all of that. Tmo packed the update in data. I dd'd everything and it still only reads and flashes as the software it launched as, I did the dd after updating to the current tmo firmware..made no sense to me. They're doing something weird . . I literally found everything rcs related, I have the files and copied em over, it's a server side switch or something or a combination of them the messaging app works but it's not present with chat settings as the tmo rom has. Also, they sign their payloads differently and they are something no program we have available can unpack. I unpack payloads all the time, this one we cannot. I will try that pixel ROM may have better luck porting rcs there..
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mervingio:
This is TMobile modem flashable?

I converted from T-Mobile to International updated to latest version but the LTE speed are too slow
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
I wonder if we can flash the T-Mobile msm tool on international like we did the tmobil conversion to get rcs it could happen with a little modding I just don't know how to do it myself.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hartleyshc:
You can already. It's the flasher that's modded, not the firmware files. It's how you can go back to TMobile afterwards.

It'll lock your bootloader and you'll have to go through the steps of unlocking it without tmobiles help. Like users can right now.

Or....

You can just wait for however long it takes Google to add RCS to your country since the carriers are taking forever.

I think this might be a better bet. The RCS that's added to the TMobile firmware is only for TMobile users. It's not the Universal Profile (Google) RCS that everyone wants.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
I live in California and I'm on T-Mobile so it would benefit me right. By the way I have the McLaren edition
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
I tried msm tool to go to TMobile stock rom from McLaren stock international rom all three msm roms in the tmobile msm thread and got black screen it doesn't work.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mervingio:
What did trying to do?
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
I was trying to convert my McLaren 6t to a TMobile 6t so I could have rcs it failed miserably.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mervingio:
Well the T-Mobile implementation in Oxygen OS is a total BS mine is from T-Mobile and converted to international and no way back not lose your mind for that damn thing in the long way we have an AMAZING device for long time and IMO the real problem is Google with their crap implementation example (like partition a/b) im not a Linux mastermind but for things like this we have 500,000 different android OS implementations :cool:
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
Yeah the only reason I was trying to switch it's because my wife has a T-Mobile variant and she has RCs so I wanted to enable it on mine so we could have native video calling
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mervingio:
You can do it without issue the OP dialer is ready for Google Duo or use Google dialer too I ever use it
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
google duo wont work with my wifes rcs and she wont use duo its ok though i have patience.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hartleyshc:
IIRC they didn't implement native video calling on the 6t. It defaults to use duo for video calling even in the TMobile rom.

Only thing that's RCS is the chat features with send/received, higher video/image sizes, WiFi texting that actually works.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryano89:
Does the WiFi texting actually work? I would flash back to TMobile for this feature alone. I live way out in the sticks and this would be useful
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hartleyshc:
Yes, it works well.

However my solution to that has been to get a T-Mobile cellspot v2 for my home. (Pretty much a mini tower for the home that runs off of your internet connection).

That has been way more of a fix for me personally. They're $20 deposit I think, and the money gets added back to your account on the next bill. One device per account.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] DaveIsHome:
I tested it on my wife's phone she has native video calling with another 6t they're both with T-Mobile it doesn't use duo it's probably not part of the RCs rollout but they do have native video calling
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Mervingio:
I use Google Message app and txt with WiFi works
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] noobiedev83:
How you guys have this working? My doesn't work at all it just use the regular sms!!
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] I800C0LLECT:
I think it only works when messaging a fellow TMobile user. :/
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] Ryano89:
Still never worked for me
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] noobiedev83:
it does work but is only 10mb for sending files thru the one plus messages app
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] hartleyshc:
IIRC some one over at the TMobile support forums tested it out and it was actually 100mb limit.

But yeah, only works on in the OP app. It's Tmobile's version of RCS, not the Universal Profile RCS that Google is putting out.

As far as that goes, TMobile still only supports UP RCS on those handful of old Samsung phones (pretty sure the S7 is one).

Back in April in this very thread, I stated I wished Google would just go around the carriers. I'm so glad they're finally doing it. UK and France are done, I really hope they keep going with this. Once people find out they can get their "iMessage for Android" by using the Google Messages app, a lot more people will go out of their way to install it, if it's not installed already. "Real" people don't care about end to end encryption. They just want to features like read receipt and to send pictures and videos that don't look like they were sent from a flip phone from 2002.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] drakonizer:
Small correction, T-Mobile is running on Universal Profile 1.0 but they are not connected to Google's Jibe RCS hub, which means cross carrier RCS is not supported. I'm fairly certain the Samsung phones you mentioned don't have RCS working across carriers either.

Now if enough people were to bug them about it, hopefully they'd realize this is more important than a gimmicky 5G rollout.
[OnePlus 6T  Guides, News, & Discussion] noobiedev83:
for me only works with 10mb files mor than that it won't work tested few times
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[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
Whenever I restart my phone, it says phone starting along with showing an Android P logo.

I factory reset my phone once and the issue went away when I set the phone up as completely brand new.

When I factory reset the phone again with restoring my phone from the Samsung Cloud, the same error message appeared. What should I do to fix it?

https://imgur.com/a/7vPRoDl
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] TechOut:
If it happens again after a restore then its likely something you have backed up causing it
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
Even after the first initial setup, it kept doing it. I tried a Dalvik wipe, a bunch of factory data resets, and rebooting in safe mode. I think it could be something with logging into an account too. I tried two factory data resets w/o logging into my Google or Samsung accounts. They were pretty smooth with restarts. I may have to restore less info from my iPhone to the S10e?

I have about 12k texts between now and 2017 that I restored. Plus about 141 apps. But I think it may be a first party app since it's an issue that occurred in safe mode?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] tim84us:
thats normal

mine does the same and so are all the ones i saw reviewed online

mine takes a few seconds in normal reboot but when i updated the OS it took like 5min to disapear
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
Weird, I thought it was corrupt data. It doesn't happen on my dad's Note 9 w/ Pie on it. What I do find weird is that the Android P logo appears and mentions the device was updated in the notification/status bar.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] TechOut:
Usually the little pie icon in the status bar means it's finishing up an update. Is there still data that may not be fully transfering for some reason and maybe something got stuck trying?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] rishab_s:
Mine does the same thing. I think it's because some data didn't restore properly while restoring
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
According to the data transfer process, it says that my Google and Samsung accounts fully restored. I think the data I am using may be corrupt given that I had a lot of apps from iOS transferring over to the S10e. I'll download my apps manually this time. Just waiting for 12k messages to transfer over from Samsung Cloud into my S10e.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] TechOut:
Are you referring to this?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] TechOut:
I was on the XDA app before so i didn't see your picture but yes that phone is starting message is normal. All my Pie devices have done it. Also the P icon in the status bar is a systemUI icon saying you won't receive notifications until you unlock it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
Yep.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
Interesting, I thought it was abnormal since the Note 9 doesn't do it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nickporwal:
Its totally normal. You are worrying too much. [emoji14]
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] nviz22:
Just got done with Samsung Support. They say it's normal on the S10, but the Note 9 doesn't have that.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] benparker:
What do you guys think? Still waiting for my one to come.

https://youtu.be/T3GPDLFVj-0
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] vodovodo:
I have both and trust me. We are at this point of time where all these speed tests are just useless ... u won't feel the difference between the 2 (add iPhones to them)

It's all about fluidity and smoothness now and how the software really serves you... and I can assure u oneUI is years ahead of EMUI. Giving that mate 20 pro is superior hardware wise in everything except the screen but emui just screwed the experience
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] iamnotkurtcobain:
The Mate is superior Hardware wise? ???
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] vodovodo:
Yes my dear, Mate 20 is better hardware wise is just a fact

cameras with bigger pixel size (and mega pixel) and 3x optical zoom and wait till I show u the difference when it's dark. U will be shocked even without the night mode.

2 AI detigated mambo jumbo (search for ai video modes and u will understand)

Bigger battery and much better battery life

40w fast charging and 15w wireless charging

7nm chip ( I have the exynos not snapdragon)

3d face scanner + the in display FB.

Infra red still.

Now imagine if u can use Samsung DEX wirelessly ... yup mate 20 can do that.

S10 has the best screen and support an SD card

Otherwise they are the same even in screen size or wireless powershare etc etc

I don't know if the laughs out of ignorance and sarcasm or u r just shocked by simple facts!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] Corv0:
What a bunch of crap, the 980 is a on a half baked 7nm node and you can see that by how it performs, worse than most 10nm+ in most cases, the gpu is a total scam so hard that they had to come back with fake advertising and turbo naming gimmicks to make their Chinese users fall for that, the rest of the world didn't.

The battery isn't bigger, it can be 100mah bigger in theory and that's up to the marketing department, you won't know unless you run a lab, in real life battery tests the S10+ totally destroys the competition.

The fp scanner can be fooled by a picture of your finger, pathetic.

The face ID can also be fooled by people that look slightly similar to you, even more pathetic.

Huawei has no access to top end AMOLEDs and never will, they can't even cut holes in their OLED yet.

20W+ fast charging has been demonstrated to accelerate battery degradation by a lot, sensitive OEMs started giving us the choice to disable that for a reason, I guess the average user likes to charge their battery in 30 min, not caring it will reach 50% health in a year, guess who benefits of the battery replacement service?

Exynos' NPU can host 7 times more AI operations than anything Huawei has came with, not even a challenge.

Samsung also makes way better use of AI, for the first time we have a phone that knows how to use a neural network, not just for some stupid camera modes, the whole phone learns how to adapt to you.

No need to talk about software quality, OneUI is made to be better than the pixel experience, not some EMUI clone of iOS for people who can't afford Apple devices.

DeX isn't a simple wifi streamed UI, it's a whole setup that needs hardware to work, it is intended for developers and people who need bigger screens and Linux, once again not even a match.

It might be a cultural thing or just greed, but every Huawei product screams quantity over quality, the results reflect that.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sml20044:
Which s10+ model?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] iamnotkurtcobain:
Well said. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] darkoroje:
Sorry but you are not correct. I have both phones and mate 20 Pro has significantly better battery life, at least for me. And it takes better pictures especially at night.

As for biometric, mate 20 Pro has 3D face unlock which is very secure and fast.

This is not to say that S10 is a bad phone, but mate 20 Pro has several advantages over it.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] sille:
ok,

better battery than mate 20 pro -> simply no, just no....

better camera than mate 20 pro -> hell, no

give me some technical research, that is proofing your points...

and take off your ****ing fanboy glasses, there are other good devices on the market....
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Guides, News, & Discussion] vodovodo:
you have no idea what u r talking about, do u ? :D

"the 980 is a on a half baked 7nm node and you can see that by how it performs, worse than most 10nm+ in most cases, the gpu is a total scam so hard that they had to come back with fake advertising and turbo naming gimmicks to make their Chinese users fall for that, the rest of the world didn't."

dude have u even saw the video posted by the OP ? just watch it man .... LOL.

it is very obvious you have no idea what are you talking about also when u mentioned Dex,

"DeX isn't a simple wifi streamed UI, it's a whole setup that needs hardware to work, it is intended for developers and people who need bigger screens and Linux, once again not even a match."

you have no idea about EMUI Desktop, do you? you think i am just comparing DEX to a screen mirroring ?

please educate yourself. its embarrassing dude. and what makes it funny is someone actually said "well said". LOL [MENTION=899989]fanboy[/MENTION]s

the facts are:

battery is way better with huawei, i dont care about speed tests or battery drains online or marketing bla bla bla, i can get easily 8 to 9 hours SOT and with the same use i get 5 hours max with S10+, any user of both will say the same thing,

they will also say it has a better camera specially at night or dark environment.

it also gets a much faster charging speed and they are so confident about it they and gives a whole year of battery warranty free of charge replacement globally except of course in the US (and 6 months for the screen btw), so again, EDUCATE yourself fanboy, dont be like the apple cheeps who justify not having an option by saying apple knows better.

now for the AI,

"Samsung also makes way better use of AI, for the first time we have a phone that knows how to use a neural network, not just for some stupid camera modes, the whole phone learns how to adapt to you."

can you give other examples please? cuz this is exactly what huawei is saying about their devices for 2 years and its proven with mate 9 now. it doesn't mean samsung said it means its new or true at least to be tested. plus the camera mods u dont like :D :D :D

that said, Dude i have both phones, i actually had mate 20 pro as a secondary phone and replaced my note 9 with s10 plus, i even agree that oneUI is the best and EMUI is an iOS Clone "review my earlier posts" so

get your facts straight, take off your fanboy glasses

coz bashing the 3D scanner (that even XDA Experts say its better that the iphone's) on this devise to make it sound worthless is just a joke. big one.