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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
It WILL 100% stop OTA.

As long as the CP is NOT matching the rest of the ROM, you dont get OTA.

Even if you check for Updates Manualy, it says that you use the newest verion of Android.

It break OTA.

When you flash later the CP which is matching the rest of the rom, then you will get OTA.

Iam Using the Rom : DBT-N960FXXS2ARL3-20181217152720

Iam Using the CP of : SM-N960F_1_20181107143814_xz9fwijq20_fac

Older CP, but no OTA anymore :) (Anyway, iam on 8.1 ATM and dont want OTA)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
ok great so the logical choice would be to get the latest and newest modem instead of using an older one.

might have cell and wifi improvement with a newer revision....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] amorosa:
Yes, i tryed a few modems, but there is no difference for me, so atm i use a very old CP.

As you can see above, i edited my post.

But yeah : Logical is to take the newest CP. Maybe it saves some Battery or it provides better reception. Or it start a nuclear war against Apple :)

Edit : Sometimes, the newest CP isn´t the best ! You have to try the CP´s out to check it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] a63548:
Probably a stupid question, but does it have to be a CP from the same Android version? Or could I run the last version of Oreo, with the latest Pie CP?

EDIT: Please forgive me. I just noticed your post stating exactly this. My apologies, and thank you very much :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] alher591:
Can anyone point me to the last official oreo firmware for tmobile?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Why not just disable OTA with package disabler or ADB? Then if you want update just uncheck the box in disabler.

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] _GRIZZLY_:
I flashed older modem 1 week ago and update monit just gone from everwhere.

So i confirm that older modem help.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Beautiful!

Thanks for the confirmation!

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That's what I have done with AdHell3 and it has worked. The license key will need to be renewed soon. In case that is not successful, I've been researching alternatives.

If I need an alternative, I'm planning on DL-ing Package Disabler from their website, as opposed to getting the Pay Store version. $4 does not seem an extreme cost to keep the pie away.

Thanks to all for the info, here!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] PGHammer:
Sacrifices To Every Choice

There are sacrifices to every choice. I went from GNex (toro) to S7 Snapdragon last year (and wound up having to switch carriers to get the most out of the phone). While I was able to initially have root, I wound up losing that (due to a loader change that you either had to swallow OR lose updates) - the infamous b8 loader for the US S7 Snapdragon. So I have not had root for over six months; I can deal with that. I'll be going THIS year from the S7 to either S9+ OR Note 9 (One UI Pie in both cases) - I won't have root (with the Note 9, however, I will get TWRP back (which was impossible with the US S7 Snapdragon, and is still impossible with the S9+ US Snapdragon)) - as the US Note 9 supports TWRP. The sixty-four cent question is, even if I go with the Note 9, will I accept TWRP? (I can do without it; I have with the S7 due to backing up the settings regularly via the S7's built-in cloud-based backup mechanism - which the S9+ and Note 9 also support.) I won't lose WiFi Calling with either the S9+ or Note 9, as the T-Mobile half of Tracfone supports that with either handset, nor will I lose any other feature that I have with the S7 - even with OneUI (I don't use Samsung's call recording "feature"). The one possible change I could have to deal with is Edge support (the S9+ has it - which the US S7 I have now does not have); I am not aware if the Note 9 has the feature or not - however, if it does (and I wind up with a Note 9), it's quibble turf. So it's not a matter of deal-breakage, even with the Note 9.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
I just tried flashing cp from newest Pie and it immediately failed using patched Odin. Does it have to be with regular Odin??

This is on a N960U by the way on T-Mobile.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Alright, so I have tried flashing every single modem for the N960U T-Mobile with no luck. This is now kind of odd. I'm thinking I might have to flash the full firmware of whatever modem I want, and then flash over using the firmware I want my device to be on, in this case newest Oreo, but negate flashing the CP partition to keep the old modem to block OTA.

Cannot use a package disable as it requires Admin rights which I can't grant due to security policies for work.???*♂️
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
can you at least flash your current cp?

if that doesn't work then something is wrong with your setup.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Yep I can flash current CP with no issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] tony950:
i got a tmobile branded note 9 on android 9. how can i go back to android 8.1 with out the possibilty if bricking the phone or voiding the warenty on the phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
By flashing the T-Mobile version of ARL1 with patched Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] tony950:
you happen to have the download links for the tmobile firmware and the newer odin?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Did you even search?

https://forum-xda--developers-com.c...-tmb-stock-odin-files-firmware-t3833205/page1

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/stock-960u-firmware-att-vzw-tmo-spr-usc-t3837086

https://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/n960u-tmb-stock-odin-files-firmware-t3833205
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Which version are you wanting of the T-Mobile firmware?

Well it depends on which version he is needing.?

Search doesn't work very good on xda unfortunately. I spent an hour trying to find a post a few days ago by typing word for word a section of it and search gave me nothing.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Fair enough. I didn't mean to come off like a tool on NASIOC. [emoji6]

The actual search function I would agree, leaves much to be desired.

Looking in the firmware forum was where I found what I posted.

I did post many, if not all for him, tho.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] tony950:
pizza_pablo thanks for the reply. and yes searching for stuff on xda can be hard some times. i just figured it might be easier to just ask for the links since someone had already found them. if that is against the forum rules then sorry i wasnrt aware. but thanks for the reply
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
You're welcome!

No, not at all.

My apologies for being flip / giving you a hard time.

Obviously, my sarcasm wasn't recognized.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] CW_texashack:
I feel the exact same way as OP, I honestly dislike the way OneUI looks. I have great battery life on Oreo but when i upgraded to Pie, my battery might have gotten 2-3 hours OST on Oreo i was getting 5-6, even now that i downgraded I'm still not getting AS much as i used to but its still better than pie, not to mention the fact that pie looks like a child's toy phone with the massive buttons. I enjoy Oreo the best.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
It has been my experience that phones most often perform best with the software version, initially installed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] IT_Architect:
I'm with you on that. No call recording now equals no sale. That's what we invoice from, make telephone conversations smooth so we don't need to take notes, etc. Google and Android are getting stupid on us.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gruuvin:
OneUI is great. Call recording is not for everyone. It's certainly not worth staying on an OS without updates if it's not needed. Google should bring back call recording support. Samsung should not be blamed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nastrahl:
I too I always considered everything that's actually showed onscreen were way to big even with font and zoom setting set to minimal.

Then I set the minimal DPI to the native screen DPI in the developer menu (516, according to GSM arena), then everything appeared small and sharp.

The zoom option seems to affect that screen DPI setting, but not enough.

Font size not, so in case of to small font I only adjust this one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Did you not read the previous post?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Does your Samsung keyboard; if you use it, get all weird and stuck in one handed mode?

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Reading is fundamental. Reading is...funtamental....reading is....fun to mental....??
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
but you have to search first!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Gotta find Waldo??*♂️?...I mean....answers.?

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Am I the only person the Samsung keyboard does this to? ^^^
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
[emoji16]

Sent from SM-N950U Still Rooted Note 8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nastrahl:
Not as shifted as one handed mode but yeah, to the left.

It's not an issue for me since I'm not using it. I prefer Gboard or SwiftKey because I can type on multiple languages with one layout only, as we are accustomed to with a physical keyboard.

Plus, I find the autocorrect awful and I spend more time deleting invalid and wrongly spelled terms it suggest to me than actual real, existing words.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
DPI change and sammy keyboard don't play well together.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gruuvin:
Yep! Are you part of "we"? I'm not. A lot of us are not.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Is that you, John Wayne?

Is this me?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
the call recording feature is legislated by law. different states have different policy.

Google is just abiding the law as much as it can.( they can't make per state firmware untill something forces them to)

so I'd say people need to read up, learn and take it up with your state officials. once all states allow it then probably it will be reintroduced( which is very unlikely. if someone in state A that allows it calls someone in state B that dosen't, then its impossible to enforce the law. so i guess they just completely removed it. but i do understand why it was removed completely, i don't like the idea of being recorded without my concent anymore than than the next guy. but of course lets face it, there are ways to overcome this new caveat if you have the right device.) i belive down the road there might even be restrictions on xda bout this type of discussion because if this platform is used to help users bypass the law then like anything else, it might be reconsidered illegal to aid and discuss how to circumvent call recording... or maybe not.

we live in a world where we are building ourselves a nice walled garden. the more rights we want the more legislature there will be and in turn the less rights we will end up having because a right to do something is just a way to stop you from doing it how you want to do it.

like taking a fish out of the ocean because its polluted or something and confining it to a fish bowl.

be careful of what you want i say.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_call_recording_laws
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Good info[emoji106]

Sent from SM-N950U Still Rooted Note 8
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I've found that simply letting the other party aware that you may be recording the phone call, that works well enough. The only time I actually ever felt the need to record (always set to manual recording in my case), it's whilst dealing with spam calls or customer service reps, which also let me know that the phone call is being recorded by them. I think that is fair. It protects both parties.

When talking with anyone else, I never felt the need to record. But then again, I hardly make phone calls these days. Even the robo calls have started to finally subside. Finally.

Anyway, I wanted to update this thread and say (to whomever cares to know) that I finally did update to One UI. What changed was the fact that Swift is finally working on Pie. I couldn't believe it. Although call recording is still not working like it did on Oreo, I've come to realize that Swift was my biggest reason for remaining on Oreo because all the apps that I use need to have black themes. Just so much white everywhere, I could not stand it. But now Swift finally works on Pie and I'm happy.

I still plan to never buy another SD Samsung Note device because I know after this Note 9 I will need root for sure in order to have Swift support on any new device. Unless the devs at Swift pull a miracle out of the sky. App devs are not moving fast enough to allow more theme options for their apps, so that is why Swift will continue to be vital to my daily enjoyment of my phone.

I was using the OnePlus 7 Pro recently (rooted) and since I was enjoying those nav gestures, I'm happy to have a version of that on this One UI Note 9. It's not as fluid and smart as the gestures on Oxygen OS, but it's fair enough. It allows me to get rid of software nav buttons, which I have always hated. If I could not have capacitive nav buttons any longer, gestures work fine for me.

I think Oxygen OS from OnePlus is the best version of Android, IMO but between Swift support and package disabler, this Note 9 is humming along well enough. I hope this update is useful for some around here. Circumstances and minds can change, and that's what happened here. For the better, it seems.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] teegunn:
I froze my update APK's with package disabler pro. Seeing the update pushed on my wife's N9, I knew then I didn't want it. My phone is perfect just as it is, I don't plan on taking any OTA's while I own the phone. I often do this will all my phones. Back when we could still root, first thing I would do would be to find the best, stock-based ROM and start from there. Never changed ROM's on my N2, N3 or N4. Then came the N7 which, well, I locked that in too so I didn't get the crippling OTA's basically killing the phone.

Note 8 I locked in freezing the OTA APK's, and like I said same thing on my Note 9. Software updates are almost always overrated, and almost always bring more problems than remedies. The almost always remove features that I use more than add any I really want. I am very happy with my Note 9 on Oreo. It's much, much better than my wife's N9 where she took the update.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] koyanishi:
I not only miss the ability to record calls with ACR because of Pie but also don't understand why Samsung is going along with what Apple started with the notch and punching a hole in the top of the screen to reduce the bezel size.

That bezel in the note 9 is tiny and much less intrusive than a hole in your screen.

What the heck are all the OM thinking?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
In states such as Colorado, you don't even have to tell the other person you're recording, as Colorado is single person knowledge of a call bring recorded; you. The only folks who have to say that the call is being recorded here in Colorado are debt collectors.

Pie wise, I've moved up to it for to secure patches as Google did patch some pretty nasty things that kind of flew under the radar for the past couple months. Pie isn't bad now on May update, I think Samsung just needed to get some of their apps in check. I do believe I could be getting better battery on Oreo, but since my new work vehicle forces me to use Android Auto, I don't worry about battery since it's plugged in while I'm driving.

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I would say yes to this if the updates that pretty much all devices get now weren't Security Updates. I wouldn't even use the word unnecessary because some secure updates are absolutely critical with safeguarding information on your device.

Do you or your spouse use any of the Bluetooth, Tap to Pay or NFC features/functions of your devices? If yes I would highly recommend taking a look at the patch notes for some of the updates in the past couple months since the device has been out. If you're real loving you could definitely get away with not updating at all. Big city area loving though, that's a bit iffy not taking updates.

Just my humble psycho brain opinion though. ?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Security updates need to be available separate from the OS updates, IMO. Google needs to dictate this to all manufacturers using Android. We shouldn't have to rely on OEMs and carriers for security patches. It's pretty crappy that users are forced to accept features they don't want or need in order to get the latest security patch to help secure their phones. Seems kinda hostile.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Google is working on that with Android Q. Check out the developer previews patch notes and such. It's also been reported that the next version after Q might be the one to fully have security updates completely separate from the OS itself.

By the way, I am not sure if people know, but some of the nasty flaws that have been patched on newer versions of the operating systems cannot be patched on previous ones.

I'm curious to see how you guys feel about Windows or Mac? ?

While I agree that it sucks that features you all like are being taken away, there are important reasons why that the consumer might not understand. Take the case for call recording where Google is simply trying to obey a couple laws. Lawsuits suck. Look at what happened to Google in the EU. A couple billion $$ all for what? Having your own apps on your own software? Yes it's deeper than that but peeling away the layers, that is basically what it came down to. I applaud the EU for doing what they did, and I understand that Google is just trying to avoid any future issues.

It all falls back to one simple standing, vote with your wallets. "Don't like em, don't buy them." ????????
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
But they're safe to allow continuing support for devices that are rooted? With root, you can bypass that pesky new Google policy and enable native call recording on your phone. So would they ever go so far as to blocking the Play Store and other Google services from being accessed by phones that are rooted? What kind of crapstorm would that cause?

The real villains in this case are the chip makers and or phone makers and or carriers that lock bootloaders on their devices. If users fully pay for a device, they should be allowed to wave warranty (their explicit choice) and unlock the devices they own fully. I feel that at this point we need a law to force this.

The ability to accept security patches separate from OS updates needs to get passed down to at least Pie, IMO.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
I completely understand where users are coming from here on xda and the mentality that we all tend to have towards Android and manufacturers.

So the first part of you reply, I could see Google blocking Play Store or any of their other services on rooted devices. Remember, Android is now under Alphabet Inc and not Google. Which is dumb because good manages Android but that's a whole other topic. But anyways, if there is major security concerns that they could somehow come up with, yeah they technically could. It would definitely suck for sure though, and I think they would probably be okay since the "rooting" percentile of their consumers of Android device isn't that large in the grand ecosystem of all Android consumers.

Second part of your post. In the sense of us "hackers" on xda, yes they are "villains," but to be quite honest, i don't think we should be upset with manufacturers for locking their devices down because as evil as they are, security still has to be too priority on their list of check boxes. Ever since I've entered into the role I'm in my career, I see things a lot differently than I did 2 years ago. A lot of these phone makers have A LOT riding on vulnerability of their devices. The absolute crap storm that would happen to the major cellphone makers or Google/Alphabet, if something like the WannaCry kidnappings were to occur in some way to current devices. Oh man that's a lot of high tier contracts that'll get lost. Not to mention consumer lawsuits that'll happen if a vulnerability was found and taken advantage of on a large scale.

I used to avoid phones with locked bootloader's and all that. Used to get mad when features were harder to implement. Now I completely understand why Tap to Pay has so much security around it when it comes to blocking it on rooted devices. Or why calls recorders aren't allowed anymore besides the new laws that Google are trying to abide to.

Lastly, trickling down security patches being separate from OS would be nice on Pie, but I don't think it'll be possible to do. Let me reframe that. There's no way in hell Google is going to rewrite Android Pie to separate security patches.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Da-BOSS:
Well... I'm nearly 1 year with Oreo.. and it never disappoints me at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I just can't accept this general acceptance by some here feel towards OEMs and Google. "It is what it is, let's just accept it..." Just simply rolling over like that sounds tragic. You buy a product and own it fully, you should have the right to do with it as you please. Android rooting is not the first enthusiast community that has ever been in existence. We are an important part of the Android ecosystem. Despite what some may suggest otherwise. It was, for example, the iOS jailbreaking community that helped influence Apple in introducing new features to successive iOS versions. The rooting community here has a similar influence on OEMs and Google.

In the grand scheme of things, we may be somewhat niche, but we are not insignificant.

These are big companies, they don't need any of us to defend them.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Oh I am by no means saying It is what it is. My original point was send them a message with your wallets. And it's not a matter of defending them, it's a matter of being realistic. Yes you buy a phone outright and it's yours, you have every right to accept the software updates. There's nothing included in that purchase that says they have to make software updates available to you. That's like saying a manufacturer has to keep making parts or gas compatible with your car. You make the call of accepting that software update. They are evil for sure and they overcharge way too much for their devices in my opinion, but to complain about what they do and yet continue to purchase their devices IS saying It is what it is, because you're just continuing to fill their pockets with revenue to continue to do it.

All I did was drop some insight and facts man. ;):good:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I like what the both of you had to say[emoji106]