yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] neso_003:
Hello, is already a ROOT possible?

Found this links

seektogeek.com/root-samsung-s10-plus-s10

and this one

techdroidtips.com/root-samsung-galaxy-s10-plus

Thank you :)
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] spartanz51:
These links are generated automaticaly to obtain traffic and improve SEO. Don't trust it.

Furthermore, some of them spread malware.

TWRP is not available for Samsung Galaxy S10 at the moment. So these article are fake

In general, only trust XDA threads about root things
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] neso_003:
Okay thank you for your help :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] hlabbad:
Any chance rooting S8 Plus on Pie firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] MRDOCA:
Wtactualf? Is this a s8 thread?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] hlabbad:
It is Root section in general, so it doesn't matter.

Anyway i found a way and it is now rooted.
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] neso_003:
Nice
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] Velocy:
No, its not, it's the Galaxy S10 Q&A, but glad you found your thing
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] galaxys:
End of story...
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] ngluuvinh:
After installing gltool and allowing root access (magisk) I get 1 message:

WARNING! Your device doesn't have enough space on /system partition. Symlink installation method will be used.

This is VERY DANGEROUS, better free some space on /system if possible.

Do not wipe your data partition before uninstalling GLTools, otherwise you will get your device bricked.)

YES or NO

I clicked "YES" and after a while using gltool, I restarted the device and received a brick

And I flashed the rom with miflash, I then noticed the device lost the cache partition, by checking app "disk info" and in recovery stock or TWRP.

Someone can help me

sorry my english is not good
[Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers] Bokoko006:
I think its pretty normal. Don't overthink. Mine's temperature is same as yours. Might because youre using your phone constantly without taking a break.
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] _V3D4N7_:
Device is stuck in bootloop after I installed Xposed framework module from magisk manager .

I've tried uninstalling magisk , but the uninstall package terminates with error .

Then I flashed stock boot.img , it is booting but I cannot disable the module as magisk isn't installed.

Is there a way I can removed magisk's files / uninstall magisk modules manually from twrp .

Thanks !

(If there is some more relevant place for this thread , please let me know I'll post this there.)

Edit: Fixed it!
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] abkdmn:
you will have to reflash entire system.img + boot.img again with proper wiping.
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TanRayCz:
I never got xposed working on R6 stock.. (i got it magically working on GSI tho) I really want Xposed tho.. :/
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] abkdmn:
which gsi image & twrp you are using? I flashed rr gsi-nosu-vanilla but it keeps bootloop.
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TanRayCz:
LOS Treble. Call/SMS issues though. LR Team TWRP.
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Michaelw7:
i tried flashing the los (15.1 arm A only) gsi image, stuck at bootloop.

how can u succeed?
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TanRayCz:
If youll get into bootloop i suggest you trying to wipe system and data partitions from fastboot (important), then flash stock ROM and then flash the GSI. This most of the time worked for me as clear GSI flash. So steps may not be necessary.
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Michaelw7:
thank u for the help. i will try it
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Michaelw7:
[official] miui 10 recovery & fastboot ROM

tried wipe system and data partition from fastboot.

and then flash stock rom (from [official] miui 10 recovery & fastboot ROM thread in kernel sub forum), and then instal the gsi image los 15.1.

still bootloop. idk what i did wrong. still no clue
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TanRayCz:
Try to flash stock kernel/boot.img or remove Magisk trough uninstaller. This magically helped me one time
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] Michaelw7:
where can ai get the stock kernel file?
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] _V3D4N7_:
You can restore boot.img by installing Magisk uninstaller update ( it's available on Magisk thread I think) , or download a fastboot update for your device to get stock boot.img
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] TanRayCz:
You can extract it from firmware ZIP
[Xiaomi Redmi 6 Guides, News, & Discussion] abkdmn:
go to this site. (not promoting it or something) https://extract.me paste this link [ http://bigota.d.miui.com/V10.0.1.0....FH_20180919.0000.00_8.1_global_794ccbbe18.tgz ] wait a few second then you will see all files from this archive, download what you want from it. It will save you a lot of time to download entire archive. Trust me. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] shanxybeast:
Thinking about switching to the s10, any current owners know much information on this Dac and music capabilities?
[Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers] shanxybeast:
Bump
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Hydro8:
Hi

I currently trying to root my oneplus3 with LineageOs 16 (last version).

I tried with su from extra section addonsu-16.0-arm64-signed.zip and with SR5-SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502.zip.

Every time, flash is OK but when I try with root checker, root doesn-t work.

On setting, I set root for ADB and apps.

Any ideas how to root a oneplus3 with lineage 16 ?

Thank for the help :good:
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Ibuprophen:
At this point in time, SuperSU isn't working well on LineageOS 16.0 in general.

The AddonSU has been having issues with many members as well and I do know that there's been some discussion/work being done with it by the Lineage Team as well.

Apparently the Magisk has been working well for many individuals and I plan to try it out myself soon.

Sorry I can't be much more helpful than this but, I just wanted to bring the above information to your attention too.

Good Luck! :)

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UNLESS asked to do so, PLEASE don't PM me regarding support. Sent using The ClaRetoX Forum App on my Enigma Machine {aenigma = Latin for "Riddle"}.
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Hydro8:
Hi

Thank for this information. !

I tried magisk but it didn-t work, I have an error on twrp. i join the screenshot.
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] Ibuprophen:
TBH, your best bet is to ask for some member guidance within one of the following Magisk Specific threads since I only have a working knowledge of Magisk and am still trying to familiarize myself with using it...

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3432382

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3388268

... Keep in mind that errors provided/reflected on the TWRP Terminal screen (you provided) is extremely limited.

In general, the TWRP Logs actually has more detailed information for better support. So any time you receive an error on the TWRP Terminal, go right to where the area is to save the Logs for you to submit for support.

The following image is a quick little Helper Guide to where to go in TWRP for saving the TWRP Logs.

View attachment 4723110

I wish you the best of luck! :)

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UNLESS asked to do so, PLEASE don't PM me regarding support. Sent using The ClaRetoX Forum App on my Enigma Machine {aenigma = Latin for "Riddle"}.
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] kurtn:
Addeonsu has to work. The decision arm/arm64 depends on ROM not hardware. In older 64 bit hardware lineageOS has 32 bit.

With all that root flashing your boot partition is maybe messed up. Try clean flash. That's a good basis for a bug report.

PS.: read your own screenshot!
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] frazelle09:
Hello, Hydro8. i have the same problem with Lineage 16 and have been checking different forums and Google but haven't seen anything yet which might help us. i guess we'll just have to keep checking - perhaps this might be the best thread/forum "The AddonSU has been having issues with many members as well and I do know that there's been some discussion/work being done with it by the Lineage Team as well. " although i haven't found the Lineage web forums yet. i suspect there are none - only reddit and the chat space.

Have a great morning! :)
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] kurtn:
Do you really have the same "boot image patched by unsupported programs"?
[LineageOS Questions & Answers] frazelle09:
Dear kurtn. i was happy to receive a reply so quickly! However i'm at a loss as to how to answer your question "Do you really have the same "boot image patched by unsupported programs"? " Perhaps you could expand a little.

In the meantime, have a radiant morning! :)
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] CunhaPT:
Hi everyone! I need some help if its possible. Everytime i turn on/off the mobile data it shows a pop up, is there a chance to remove it? Thanks Lg H930
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] Eliejo:
I think it is a part of the system and you cannot do anything with it. if you are rooted maybe some modules can help or you can change the rom
[LG V30 Questions & Answers] kicikk:
No way to disable it. I was having the same problem until i got used to it...
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] DarknessKiller:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/

Read the whole OP! Be respectful to each other and don't ask for ETAs, it's considered as being rude!​

​

Syberia Project (aka Syberia OS) is a custom ROM for Oneplus 6 (enchilada) that implements various features. This project was designed by our "Syberia Team" from scratch based on AOSP source code with some CAF fixes and improvements. Our team: @blinoff82, @DennySPB, @alexxxdev. Also many thanks to our designer @rlshukhov for logos, wallpapers and bootanimation.​

If you like our work you can you can buy us a cup of coffee or a glass of beer :p

Here​

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OTA Updates
VoLTE/VoWIFI support
Themes support
Smartbar, Fling, Pulse
Privacy Guard
Wakelock and alarm blockers
Real-time charging info on lockscreen
Custom switch tiles
Tiles Haptic Feedback
Torch gesture on power button
Screen off animations
Screen Record to the Power Menu
Statusbar brightness control
Navigation bar, Lockscreen shortcuts, StatusBar tuner
Features flash-call-on-waiting
Volume key music control
Volume Rocker Wake
Double tap to sleep on lockscreen and statusbar
HOME as wake key
Increasing ring feature
Hide the power menu on the lockscreen
Statusbar network traffic
incall vibration options
Force Expanded Notifications
Battery light customization
HeadsUp notifications
Smart Pulldown
Increasing ring feature
Reset battery stats
Hide the power menu on the lockscreen
Statusbar network traffic
incall vibration options
Volume Key Answer
Launch default music player on headset connect
Live Volume Steps
Quick Pulldown
Statusbar clock date customization
Custom system animations
Navigation gestures
Night Light brightness mode options
Configurable 0, 90, 180 and 270 degree rotation
Full screen photo for incoming and outgoing calls
Prevent accidental wakeup
Recent styles
Three finger screenshot
Audio panel customization
Statusbar ticker
Brightness slider position
Tiles animations
Media cover art
Lockscreen weather
Lockscreen clock customization
Battery icon customization
Font manager
QS tiles style
Offscreen guestures
And more and more...
Features are constantly being added and improved.

​

ROM Downloads

Gapps Downloads

Magisk Downloads​

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-Backup each and every partition from TWRP Recovery
-If you're coming from another ROM, you should wipe
/system, /data, /cache, and dalvik/art cache.
-Flash the ROM.
-Flash any other mods/etc. you want (e.g. GApps, Magisk).
-And at last Reboot
-First boot will take few minutes! Have patience
Clean Flash is always recommended!

​

Report To Me If You Find One..

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Official website

Syberia Project Github

Syberia Project Kernel Source

Official Telegram Group​

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[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Aomine.Daiki-:
Gapps:confused:
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] SagenKrieg:
does it have splitscreen and face unlock?
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] khaimilomocha:
So.. I assume you already know there already Syberia Project for this phone, right? Main questions, what the differences between your and thetoymaker's rom?

Edit: I see. Didn't read at telegram that you are new maintainer. Sorry, my mistake.
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] fendytrancers89:
The server is down.. i can't download :confused:
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] cinmil:
Anyone can try cast screen work fine on this rom?thanks
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] Osoolo:
Volte icon not showing even though it's checked in settings

In call audio feels low

First time gaaps download notification working without any workaround :)
[Asus ZenFone Max Pro M1  ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries] fendytrancers89:
...my 4g signal only 2 bars but on 3g I got full signals :(
[Oppo Realme 1  Guides, News, & Discussion] talhakvk:
Realme 1 bootloader can now be unlocked via a update provided by realme , I am waiting for custom development , and android pie custom rom ?
[Oppo Realme 1  Guides, News, & Discussion] ASHISH12345677:
bhai kya ap muje realme 1 ka backup miracle thunder k though bna k de skte ho bhaii:good:
[General Topics] russtang:
Hello all,

Just wanted to let anyone who is interested that I'm selling my brand new t600 digital TV smartphone. It's a US english model. I have an ebay auction here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120259989442&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=002

Starting bid $199 US, no reserve!

Cheers!

Russ
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
"Ships to: United States " vs. "I will ship domestic or worldwide for actual shipping cost + insurance" :) Want to fix this?
[General Topics] russtang:
Sorry about that. I just paid another buck to update the listing and checked the "international shipping" boxes, but it is still not showing up for some reason.

Rest assured I will ship internationally as stated in my description, regardless of what ebay's frustrating little "Ships to:" line says! :)

Regards,

Russ
[Samsung Galaxy S9  Questions & Answers] hmada2010_49:
HELLO, fellas, I have a big problem hope that anyone can help me to solve it

I have Samsung Galaxy S9 G960X Live Demo

photo for my phone

i can't open it cuse it give me(factory binary screen )

and i flashed this Firmware G960FXXS2CSB2 (OS VERSION 9 & Oreo 8 ) but i stocked on (SAMSUNG LOGO)

THEN I tried to flash this Firmware G960FXXU1ARCC Android 8 but no response from Odin stuck on recovery word

photo for problem

any ideas that gives me hope again :(

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[Samsung Galaxy S9  Questions & Answers] *Detection*:
https://firmware.gem-flash.com/index.php?a=downloads&b=folder&id=14790
[Samsung Galaxy S9  Questions & Answers] hmada2010_49:
thanks

but it is not free:crying:
[Samsung Galaxy S9  Questions & Answers] *Detection*:
Well google for a mirror that is free...

You already made an identical post about this in another thread
[Samsung Galaxy S9  Questions & Answers] hmada2010_49:
thanks for help :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] adil7884:
today, wiping the display with a cloth, I heard a crunching sound in the display, a little pressure, someone else found?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] dnmrt:
I saw something similar on Reddit
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
I didn't, and you're unlucky to have that, go to Samsung and demand a new one since yours shouldn't have passed quality control, they will send you a new one in a few weeks while you keep using yours.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] Deleted member 9793982:
I recently bought a chinese head unit

App: k2001n_jsh

Platformver: k20N_2018/10/22

And I would like to enable multiwindow support, but I cant find any options for it even in the dev op screen

It seems as if the manufacturer has cut a lot of features or is installing a lower version of android and calling it 8.0. Any ideas
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] necronomiconing:
G'Morning everyone.

TBH it's a strange thing.

My device - Galaxy Note 3 LTE N9005 - hlte (it seems so at least...)

Droping an package of CM 14.1 nightly comes to full success, gapps the same but when it comes to install any other ROM beside of stock or mentoined before CM 14.1 it says - Error : Rom is for HLTE (aaaand 2 other) but your device is . Yes, just "your device is ." with that damn dot at end. Im using Latest TWRP, tried like 6 other versions, roms what i checked - RessurectionRemix (latest 7.X ? ... ), RR (older, 6.X ? i belive), LOS 15.1, 16 (same error on every) and ViperOS, same thing.

Any ideas ? Im losing my mind after 4 hours :c ...
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Start with a rom not multiple roms .

Use the correct tools for flashing that rom . Usual is wrong TWRP.

Boot to download mode and note model first .

Suggest starting by flashing stock ron through Odin
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] necronomiconing:
I already mentoined, that i did it. Stock 5.1, then cm 14.1, tried 15, didnt worked, changed recovery, tried again, didnt worked. Flashed stock 5, tried 14, passed, tried 15, results as in 1st post, flashed stock again, tried firstly 15, unsuccesful, and so on ... Nor TWRP, Philz either CWM, around 5-6 versions of every i belive. Worst thing for me, is that my wifi wont work and attery discharges in a lightning speed. Maybe someone can help me trying to fix this ? Then i would not bother of any roms .... I really like stock, but WiFi wont work and camera is poor in it - for me, most important is WiFi as i mentoined and battery, not exactly in this order (battery MOSt important, then WiFi). Cant find working 4.4 stock working liks cause i think it worked on it perfectly. Battery is new by the way. Original from Samsung Store. Feel free to ask more questions and give so advices, really appreciate those ... :c

Thanks !
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mohamedkam000:
just check the model from bootloader
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Stock firmwares.

sammobile . samsung-updates . updato .com

Standard Samsung restore via KIES but you have probably broken that method .
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] wittyakash:
What are your recommendations for a case and tempered glass?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] m2maddy:
Thinking of getting this for tempered glass

https://www.amazon.in/SuperdealsForTheinfinity-Protector-Redmi-Note-Pro/dp/B07PFY61D9

For case

https://www.flipkart.com/kapaver-back-cover-mi-redmi-note-7-7-pro/p/itmfe32mnxhxfm8w
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] a.cid:
Please do let us know your experience with them, maybe with pictures. I am interested in a tempered glass protector, but I am unable to choose one just yet
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] m2maddy:
Will do, that one was not coming till Monday and needed one urgently, so had ordered this one below, expected to reach tomorrow so will give some info on this as well.

NOTE: I got the case + screen guard for 99 (for a temp solution for a week)

https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07NZ1L7TM
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] nrp31:
I'm using the GlazedInc Curved Tempered Glass on my note 7 pro. It's Rs.450 but it has actual 2.5D Curved Edges (Unlike the typical flat edge glass) and the black borders don't intrude into the display. Have done a detailed review on the channel so you guys can see the same.

[YOUTUBE]BfUGPEGUE_Q[/YOUTUBE]
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] m2maddy:
POPIO Case & Screen Guard

I tested this today and have to say really impressed for now.

It works solid, fits well, handling is nice, not too heavy and decent sturdiness. The glass screen guard is great as well and display is not impacted at all.

See pictures on how it looks.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] AbhiAbhiBisht:
This guy did a video on it. Watch if you know Hindi.

[youtube]A2Q0qyagVc0[/youtube]
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] stillcouldbeworse:
For the tempered glass, I got "Micvir Edge To Edge Tempered Glass" from Flipkart.

It's good; has a proper cutout for the earpiece and doesn't block the notification led. Doesn't come with screen wipes though.

Still looking for a case.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] a.cid:
How has your experience been so far? Do you have the side edges of the display slightly cut off because of the black borders on the screen protector? Any other comments?
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] sanghamithran:
Best tempered glass

glazedinc tempered glass is the best one it's quality is good as nilkin glasses, it's full glue and it has a real curved edge which perfectly aligns with the phone's 2.5d curvature, but it's only available in their website.

glazedinc.com /products /redminote7pro
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] AbhiAbhiBisht:
I ordered this armour type case from Amazon.in for ₹ 439. Hard, durable build and fits well too. Has a ring holder in the back which can be used as a kickstand too. Not too much heavy like the other armour cases. Display is protected too with around 1.5mm raise and camera lens is protected too. I would recommend this case to everyone.

Fortify Hybrid Armor Shockproof Soft TPU and Hard PC Back Cover Case with Ring Holder for Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 / Redmi Note 7 Pro - Armor Black https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07PDC5CR2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_C-3RCbSTANGT6
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] xyler:
Thanks:svetius:been searching for one
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] sidS6:
Well You guys seem quite rich.. I bought a local tempered glass from gaffar market, New Delhi for Rs. 30 and a sturdy rubber case for Rs. 100
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] AbhiAbhiBisht:
Can you share some pictures. Let's see if you got a good deal or got knocked off!
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] sidS6:
I think i got a great deal! The back case is sturdy and covers the screen edges and the camera bump too... The tempered is good as well.. So overall for rs 130 its a steal
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] sidS6:
Here another image
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] kvg01:
get this temped glass perfect camera cutout and edge to edge https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B07PLZYKKK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] AbhiAbhiBisht:
These are all same generic tempered glass. Just the seller is changed. If you want best protection, buy something from nilkin. Glazedink also make pure edge-to-edge tempered glass. They are worth the money.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] kvg01:
atleast its have camera cutout which is very rare for our device
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] AbhiAbhiBisht:
Not very rare.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] arish.droid:
Buy any case as long as the protruding camera has some kind of protection..when placing the phone camera down make sure its little elivated coz of the cover. For tempered glass choose as ur prefer there are some in the market tht come with some privacy tag.....where in the person sitting nxt to u wont be able to see what ur viewing or typing on ur phone.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] AbhiAbhiBisht:
This right here is the best I can recommend.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] DV_MI:
:cool:well, I have different solution mentioned here. You might like the <a href="https://greetstore.com/personalized-mobile-cover">photo mobile cover</a>

You can design anything there with their tool and order it. I have used that already so recommending.
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] RupeshRN:
Beautiful Backcover

:)
[Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 Pro Accessories] funm@sterz:
This looks great.

And since it has a stand attachment in the back,

Does that make the phone wobbly when placed flat on the back