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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] iceepyon:
KNOX is actually a security feature designed to protect the data stored on your device. Once you have rooted it or install a customOS on it. KNOX will be tripped and you will not longer have access to the applications which require KNOX to function.

If you can afford it get the SGS10+ as it is a excellent device and will last you for a long while to come. However if you are on a budget get the SGS10E. Personally, I would get the Note 9 as it is a excellent device for work and play. The features found in the Note 9, the S-Pen, capacitive fingerprint scanner and Iris scanner are excellent. I think it was a mistake for Samsung to not include the Iris Scanner in the SGS10 series as I think it is a much more secure method for unlocking your device. Also Iris Scanners are much hard to bypass than fingerprint scanners.

Well, the Note FE has just received the Pie update. Even throught it was not announced to receive it. Which is quite surprising seeing as the Note FE is nothing more than a refurbished Note 7. Which in itself was a excellent device besides the battery issues.

Even the latest SSD storage technology will degrade in time. As we have not developed SSD Technology that is capable of storing data for a very long period of time. That said you probably won't be using your device for more than 5 years at least. You should be fine as the SSD memory probably won't start to degrade till about 50+ years....
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
1+ Thank You point for your amazing knowledge that you share with us :)

1. "Once you have rooted it or install a customOS on it. KNOX will be tripped and you will not longer have access to the applications which require KNOX to function." Absolutley 100% correct and agreed. Samsung Pay, Samsung Health and something else will not work on a tripped KNOX. BTW its funny why Samsung Health....

2. So we've got a VOTE for Note 9. Thank You.

3. "KNOX is actually a security feature designed to protect the data stored on your device." Didn't I mention that in KNOX section of the phone opened by an icon in older models the device creates a virtual phone in the accual phone. The virtual phones needs a different gmail account from the host phone for Google Play apps, therefor you can install private apps like social network or dating apps, move photos/videos/files from host phone to KNOX area which is password protected so only you can see them or you can just launch the camera app in KNOX mode to directly save photos/videos to KNOX area. It's a good tool to divide the phone given to You by your boss for work mode (host) and your secret mode - KNOX virtual mode. After returning the phone your boss would not have access for example to your apps and pics that may be 18+

4. "Well, the Note FE has just received the Pie update. Even throught it was not announced to receive it. Which is quite surprising seeing as the Note FE is nothing more than a refurbished Note 7. Which in itself was a excellent device besides the battery issues." - I wonder if giving Android 9 Pie to this phone was an act of asking for forgiveness after Samsung produced Galaxy Note 7 Explosive Edition or was it because Note users are more important and will receive +1 Android update from now on compared to Galaxy S users.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] iceepyon:
Maybe... what I do find strange is that the majority of the Note 7 battery issues were in the US. While the international units and the Chinese unit seem to work perfectly fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
1. In the US Samsung can put only Snapdragon SoCs to their phones. In Europe for sure and the rest (90% sure) in puts only Exynos. Maybe that is why.

2. Maybe the time of the year and day and climate had to do something with that. Please remeber that in the US you have all kinds and mixes of wheater. Maybe a Note 7 exploded in Phoenix, Arizona, where during summer the temperature is so high that people can't function, get free water in the streets, almost bath in the fountains, old people die and I don't know this for sure but probably citizens on the street can be "shot" through the water gun hydrant or a firefighter or spinklers used for garden/grass.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
The battery problem afflicted randomly all cpu models and didn't depend on phones hardware or of it's charging software but depended on the method of its costruction that was the same independently of the manufacturer who made it ( because the the battery was produced in Korea, Japan, Cina and Vietnam and maybe in some other places ). If I remember right, this was the reason or something like that in correlation of making it to small (in size) for its capacity. After the period that the Note 7 was been removed from the world wide market (so even where having snapdragon) , then, after 6 months, it was reintroduced only in the Korean market with a corrected battery having the same esterior size but with a smaller capacity and built in a different way and, after that, this new type of battery was introduced even for all the future models like our now note 9 and S10...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
You're absolutely correct - that's why your'e getting +1 Thx for this interesting reminder.

WE ARE ALL VICTIMS suffering from that Note 7 Explosive Edition where Samsung tried to put more mAh into a standard sized battery and it literally backfired on them!

After that we all keep questioning "when Samsung finally is going to put a decent battery in it's phones, especially flagships".

Look, even now years after that Samsung Galaxy Note 9 from September 2018 and Samsung Galaxy S10+ from February 2019 have NOT decent batteries, especialy Note 9 in which the battery can NOT hold the whole day without charging. That's terrible given the fact that this phone finally broke Samsung's psycho barrier and the 4 was in front of the capacity of the battery, 4000 mAh to be exact. S10+ got little better with 4100 mAh.

But STILL for Samsung phones these values are not enough, Note9 should have around 5000 mAh battery since it's targeted for business use. The same I would say for S10+ for a simple reason - we all waited enough time for decent Samsung batteries.

I hear that other brands make relateivly bigger batteries and they don't consume each % as fast as Samsung does. I think although Note 7 Explosive Edition was dangerous, hurt people, Samsung even after gathering the Note7 from the owners and asking them if they want a full(?) refund or a Samsung Galaxy S7 (Edge) or Samsung Galaxy S8(+) (I don't remember which one was it) made a splendid marketing move:

- the showed that they "care" about their buyers

- it gave them the most powerful tool to force flagship users to change their phones every 1-3 years due to the fact that the small and % hungry battery was absolute junk and the level of irritation of flagship users forced them to buy a new Galaxy S or Note.

I forgot to mention that after that Note 7 disasters Samsung remotely without asking owners for permission lowered the display resolution on screens in Galaxy S7 (Edge), just to be safe that it doesn't happen again. People got mad that Samsung did it in their phones remotely and it lit another fire for the never ending story about our privacy using smartphones. Users of S7(E) were able to normaly revert back to the default (higher) screen resolution without any problem, even a noob could do it.

The above story can be another proof that:

- it's all about the money (getting newer phone edition due to ****ty battery)

- there is a new 21st century currency called private data/personal info that has a real trade price on the black market.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
LAST MINUTE NEWS FLASH:

I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.

I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.

I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
The principal reason that makes a battery difficult to reach high capacity in our last 4 year phones is the way phones are built. After the obvious reason of small spaces that limits battery's esterior size and even raises inside temperatures, our phones are now being almost all waterproof or even if some models are not, they're having the rear without a removable cover that makes battery's unispectionable so you can't see them when getting damaged because they don't exploid immediately but after that they are getting more and more inflated after heat and charging stresses and then, once inflated, they finally exploid. The most ridiculous thing of this feature is that the actual sealed back covers are all made with glass and so nobody has a phone any more without an additional cover so even "the gorgeous" part of having a good looking phone with glass or for its entire costruction in our hands is worthless.

I remember when phones where like our now home coordless decs in the last years of the '90s (Motorola, Ericsson, Nokia) and having batterys that by them selfs where even the back covers of the phone and having the choice in putting a bigger one that in some cases where bigger than the hole phone giving you a 300 gram "brick" in your hands, but even giving you a choice for having a 5 day non stop phone.

Now I'm not saying that first it was better and so I know that nobody wants the old "bricks" like phones were in the past , but now something has to be changed in phones costruction because batteries are to much limited in space and cooling and these things can't give us more juice that what we are now having and the way they tried to do it defore with the note 7 batteries was dangerous and so they had to go back. If they can't increase capacities increasing the inches of screens anymore because at this point with a 7 inched screen phones are not phones anymore, I think that the only solution is to make phones more thick so to raise capacity to almost 5000mA that should be reasonable for an entire day use for the actual hardwares.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
+1 T point for You buddy!

1. You're absolutely right! I agree 100%.

2. Even that the Samsung Note 7 Explosive Edition is a sad story cause people got hurt Imagine.... Get inside the head of PR/MARKETING department of Samsung. They will use it forever as an excuse for not letting higher mAh batteries in their phones. Why? Cause the speed argument to change a Samsung flagship every year or 3 at maximum is long gone cause they are so fast that could theoretically serve the owners for a decade. So how to keep the cash flowing? By selling phones with poor mAh. That way no one will last over 3 generations (3 years) and will have to buy another flagship cause the battery would be in a catastrophic state (if not replaced). So that makes Samsung happy and as I said they will do it forever cause the argument about caring for life and health of the company's clients sounds so good that no one would argue with that argument. So out of a critical PR situation Samsung got back on top again with some constant future cash-flow and perhaps new clients. HOWEVER FOREVER is not going to last because already Samsung got it's butt kicked by Google Pixel 2 and 3 XL, a price war with Xiaomi that makes cheap flagships with cameras evaluated by DXoMARK.com for photo/video quality same as Samsung (at least according to the DXoMARK ranking list) and finally Huawei that beat Samsung not only in that ranking but also for a couple of months it ruled the first top 3 in AnTutu Benchmark. If all of these 3 brands would stand together to fight Samsung the company would be forced to lower the prices and finally start putting batteries with more mAh which I'm sure they secretly have already developed for such scenario. The sad thing is that Xiaomi which was the fastest growing phone brand in the world had almost alone by itself Samsung at their knees but something has happened and Xiaomi didn't finish the job - I don't understand it. Maybe it was somehow connected to "Steve Jobs" of Xiaomi - Mr Hugo Barra who left the company in 2018 if I'm not mistaken. Now Xiaomi is in total chaos putting on the market devices which vary so little from each other that Xiaomi even started to put different colors on the phones, who knows - maybe they start clamming that a blue phone is different inside from a black phone. I tell You my Friend we were so close, so da@#@ close of hitting Samsung in the ba@#$.

4. You are extremely helpful person and a expert so please help me decide shall I buy Note9 which is currently at 80% of it's premiere price or Note8 which is 51% of the Note9 starting price?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
Dude go for a Note 9 for having more battery, the most efficient Cooper /water cooling sistem for cpu ever made for a phone (S10 doesn't have it) and one more year, rispect of note 8, of new firmware updating so it must have the future Android O next year...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Are You sure that Note series and Galaxy S series are treated the same when it comes to update policy? I think the business phone Note receives one more Android upgrade cause Samsung doesn't want to make this group of clients angry.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
How about other Users?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
Samsung has same way in updating for all there products... So, for the first 2 or 3 years there updating all models often (even every month) then, less and less times and after 4 or 5 years don't update anymore. Now things are like this because of the security updates but a little more than a year ago when security wasn't even in there minds, after two years or 2 OS's, no updates any more for making "space" in the market for the new models that are not only new in there hardware, but even in there OS...
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bandario:
I'm not sure exactly what you are doing with your phone. On medium power saver mode I am getting 3-4 days usage out of my Note 9. Obviously depends on your usage scenario but I use mine mostly via car bluetooth audio or a headset which means I don't have to have the screen on to be on a call.

This usage is whilst travelling through poor service areas all day too. I think they've done a fantastic job. With the power level of the CPU that exists in this device, you really don't notice any degradation of responsiveness on medium power saving.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Are You sure about Galaxy S vs. Galaxy Note updates? Business phone Note would get +1 android update cause Samsung wants to keep the business people happy.

+1 point Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
I never used a power saving mode in any phone. Sometimes users use exactly the opposite - High performance mode that consumes each % of battery like a cake.

And... Your "life with the phone" is so uniqe that it doesn't count. I'm sorry, no offense but using mostly via a car it's not what majority of users is doing.

But you did a great job and an eye-opener here so +1 Thank You point for You my Friend!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
Under note 8, don't know of new updates others having... So, don't think having them or at least having only essential security ones but with the same OS.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] bandario:
Give medium power saving a try for a week and see how you go. I'm not sure how it goes on stock rom but with custom rom and endurance kernel it is absolutely ridiculous. Obviously I don't always use my phone with the screen off but I'm not dicking with it all the time...it is there when I need it. Best battery life I've ever had out of any phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Please write this in another way cause I don't get that dude ;) Sorry man!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
I can't compare myself to a User with "not-stock" phone (rooted and/or custom rommed and/or kerneled device).
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
... WILL/ DO/ ........ where's the grammar in this sentece?

Sorry again cause I don't now what are you relating to :(
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
For all notes previous models, excluding note 8, don't know if they are having updates and if they're having them, think only security updates and not os updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Ok so you're in part saying that Note's are treated like Galaxy S's in terms of Android Upgrades?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] joedellosso69:
Yes... and not in part, exactly.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
I'm sorry, you're right.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ShamanBlues:
Hey guys,

I recently purchased a Galaxy S9+ SM-G965U1 From Ebay not realizing it couldn't be rooted. Rooting is probably the most important factor to me on a phone.

I noticed that there is no way to do it or unlock the bootloader.

Is anyone working on this for us? Or am I screwed? I'd rather not send back the phone as I already put Dome Glass on it, and got it activated with Metro.

Give it to me straight, will I ever see Root on this device?
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] RISHI RAJ:
I think not,If The Device you have is snapdragon variant
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] akhil333:
No hope on root, if it is snapdragon. But if it is exynos, then u can root.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] tdevaughn:
No root needed. Enjoy your phone as is.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] creep138:
Root is definitely getting overrated. I'm doing everything I've done on root without.

Substratum is the best thing to happen to Android, and specifically to Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] aka120:
I agree with you root really is overrated nowadays, except for one thing...

Making nandroid backups or similar is definitely one of the biggest advantages to having root.

Cloud based backups don't retain any of your apps data and if that particular app doesn't backup your account then you're screwed starting over from scratch.

I sure do miss making titanium backups...

To the OP... No root for SM-G965U or SM-G965U1 variants, and I wouldn't hold my breath on it being rooted either.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] ShamanBlues:
What I really want is an Ad free experience, I'm coming from a Moto X Pure and had that baby running pretty silky.

I'd also like to be able to use custom roms.

Do you know if there is a way to get rid of Bixby? Or other system apps besides disabling them?

And what is Substratum? Excuse my noobiness.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] scottusa2008:
With the galaxy S9+ and knox you can use apps like adhell3 to achieve an adfree experience. Other apps exist as well that create fake/internal VPN connections to block advertisements... Adguard is one that works pretty good too.

I enjoy the ability to tweak the performance and experience on my phone as well (not to mention the nandroid backups), but regrettably if and when it may come for get this phone is unknown. Samsung built this phone with security in mind so we may be in for a long wait for any root method (if one ever eventually materializes).

If you can not uninstall the app then maybe an ADB method exists. To be honest with system apps I would suggest you just disable them instead of removing them. Adhell3 allows for disabling of apps, and I have used it to disable several system apps. There is ample enough space on the phone (and with the use of external storage) that I personally have no cause for removing them at all. Besides the chance exists you might break something if you inadvertently remove the wrong system app.

If memory serves right it's a theme engine for the phone. Allows you to install user made substratrum themes.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] gioarvdv:
You can also use BxActions to change the use of Bixby button
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] scottusa2008:
Tasker beta also has the ability to do this. Currently using Google Assistant as the single press, but if I need to use bixby I just hold the button in.

Later Samsung bixby updates also allow changes to the button, but the only caveat with this is you can't set it to competing voice assistants.
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] qnc:
As others said unfortunately no root, but also as others said root is now overrated.

The only 2 things i can't do is custom ROM and nandroid backup. I getting away from google so i use different apps and email etc.

But since no root

I use Brave browser it has built in ad blocking, blokada a vpn ad blocker, package disabler pro to disable bixby, facebook and the update services, and bXAction to remap the bixby button.

Good luck
[Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers] SportyRydr:
Seriously? If it's exynos, it CAN be rooted? This is the first I've heard that any S9/+ can be rooted. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Which phone will be more long lasting in terms that it will not slow down after Android or Interface (Samsung Experience, One UI) upgrades?

I'm looking between these 2 phones for the one that will have a better

CHANCE

for lasting 5 years being as quick and as “battery life good” AS POSSIBLE.

I think all of us know that the OEMs make our phones slower by patches, upgrades with attached algorithms to slowly month after month (so we couldn’t notice) shorten the battery life, slower the speed and make battery consumption bigger with sole intention for us to buy a new model next year or in the next 2 years.

BTW I don’t need the Pen and I don’t play any games and I don’t need a super good cam. EDIT: no rooting and no custom romming for me on that device for ever.

If I don't need the Pen why to bother with Note you may ask?

Well, I hope that Note being the business phone is going to be treated better by Samsung in the above terms than a Galaxy S phone, but maybe it’s the other way around?

What do You think?
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.

Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.

I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] androidbadboy:
Thank You

I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)

From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.

But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.

But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.

What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.

PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
[Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers] Corv0:
What happened to your S8?