yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
if you can't change these options in the pocof1 then change your application to a newer version or change to another gcamera

These applications can be changed
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
...and the problem occurs even in normal use of the back (or front) camera. You are able to take 1 picture, then, if you want to take another, it freezes. Right when I was on the point to say that this version is perfect. :( So, back to v4a... :good:
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] daun20:
[MENTION=5138470]roursamajor[/MENTION]. You're right, happens also for me. For me it works only in HDR (ZSL) mode. With HDR+ enhanced (grayed out button) or night sight (app freezes) no picture is taken.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
Wrong post

[MENTION=9176850]Exclusive133[/MENTION]

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Pocophone front camera is 5 megapixels and there's no pixel binning

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Xiaomi has lied to us on several occasions about the pocophone.

1)The front facing camera is only 5 megapixels, not 20 megapixels. You can use camera2 API Probe to prove it. I will attach screenshots.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector

Besides pixel binning is only useful in low light conditions but this front face facing camera produces 5 megapixel photos in bright flight conditions. That does not make sense. It should produce 20 megapixel photos in bright light.

2)There are no stereo speakers because the second apparent speaker is actually a microphone.

3)The phone does not have gorilla glass. My poco has been scratched by my keys in my pocket while my 2015 phone with gorilla glass 3 has not being scratched.

4) this pixel binning phenomenon on mobile phones really became an issue with the new 48 megapixel camera modules from Sony (Imx 586) and Samsung (isocell gm1)

They have small pixel sizes of 0.8μm so they have to combined 4 of them to make a big pixel size of 1.6μm so that they can perform well in low light conditions.

The back camera on the pocophone has a pixel size of 1.4μm and performs excellently in low light.

Low light photography and video recording improves when the pixel size is big. The bigger the better.

Pixel binning to make a pixel of 1.6μm size has many limitations so it's not necessarily better than a 1.4μm pixel size.

[MENTION=9176850]Exclusive133[/MENTION] [MENTION=5879714]djdelarosa25[/MENTION]
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
Screenshots from camera2 API probe
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
Yes, and we need manual focus (by setting distance) especially in very low light conditions, where the autofocus is not so good.

There is stereophony, but the second speaker is the headphone. And the effect is good enough. You would not have had an effect of stereophony if speakers were placed too close one to another.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] daun20:
A bit off-topic but: in arnova's mod multi lens mode is super buggy on our Poco but after several freezes of the app it is sometimes possible to switch to the 5mp secondary lens. Took a few pictures but they showed more noise in dark areas. Although the pictures are worse in a first test - Could this be implemented in a stable way for our poco? Our is it not worth because the main sensor is so much better? Is it possible to combine two camera streams into a single HDR+ processing? I highly doubt it's not just because the pixel phones do have a single lens setup... (until now)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pitt93:
Lots of wrong things

1)front facing camera Is 20mpx, and use pixel binning. As all the devices with this technology, with 3rd parties cam shot with "always on" binning. So shot at 5mpx. Same on front facing camera in nokia 7 plus 16 become 4, same with devices with 48mpx sensor with lots of gcam mod shot only at 12mpx, only some of the lastest mod start to support 48mpx

2)din don, second speaker on poco is the earpice

3)the fact that you have scratched the phone doesn't mean isn't using a gorilla glass
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] xXHenlolXx:
I don't know about the other 845 phones, but as Mi Mix 3 has a 18:9 screen to body ratio, is it possible to add 18:9 aspect in gcam?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lourdu raj:
selfie mode (mirrored image)

images looks like its kinda mirrored in selfie mode after pressing the shutter button. it looks correctly in the preview but soon after hitting the shutter button it looks kinda mirrored. i am currently using the latest build
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] djdelarosa25:
Dude stop spreading BS. Almost everything that you said was wrong.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] sannn111ty:
1) binned sensor but yes raw is 5mp

2) ear piece acts like second speaker

3) Bull****. The phone got Corning Gorilla Glass 3

4) There are a lot of binned sensors.. and it isn't issue at all

Please keep the thread clear without things that aren't related to camera.. Thanks!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] sannn111ty:
Don't use Android Q ports maybe
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
If you think i'm wrong then give the links with the correct data.

I provided proof in the form of the application camera 2 API probe. it shows what your hardware is and it shows that the phone does not have a 20 megapixel front facing camera - just a 5 MP camera.

If you think the application camera 2 API probe is BS then you must be the most ignorant person in the world...

And if you understand the purpose of pixel binning then you would know that in the afternoon with bright light there's no need for pixel binning... So the photos from the front facing camera in the afternoon should be 20 megapixels. They are not. They are just 5 megapixels.

I think you pretend to know more than you do without actually knowing anything...

Try and learn and give an academic argument rather than just insulting to cover your ignorance.

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1) raw is 5mp and jpeg is 5mp

3) can you give a link where it says pocophone has gorilla glass 3. It has been mentioned that it has gorilla glass but never which gorilla glass - so give this link.

of all my phones with gorilla glass the only one scratching is the pocophone because I didn't put the screen protector. I don't put screen protectors on gorilla glass. it's not necessary. But my Poco is now full of scratches from my keys in the pocket.

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1)front facing camera Is 20mpx, and use pixel binning. As all the devices with this technology, with 3rd parties cam shot with "always on" binning.

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if what you are saying is true, then why doesn't the hardware probe with camera 2 API probe show that the Poco has a 20 megapixel camera ?

you can use any hardware probe you like and it will always show you that the Poco has a 5-megapixel front-facing camera

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector

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3)the fact that you have scratched the phone doesn't mean isn't using a gorilla glass

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Of the four phones that I have with gorilla glass, the only one that's scratched is the pocophone - and is the newest .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=874v8Sy426s

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Had to struggle to hear any sound from the headphone.... It's very low.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] CHGICEMAN:
https://www.poco.net/global/specs/

https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...gorilla-glass/smartphones/xiaomi/poco-f1.html

As has already been said several times, a 5 MP is installed, which is raised to 20MP by binning. There are of course no real 20MP. All your so-called apps only show the real MP of the sensor.

Maybe it's better if you deal with Binnig!

https://www.baslerweb.com/de/vertri...-gestellte-fragen-faqs/what-is-binning/15191/

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But this thread has nothing to do with the spec. of the Poco, but with the GCam. So do not look for the appropriate thread and spam!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
Indeed, you cannot organize a party with PocoF1, but listening music (in the night, for example) at low level volume is a pleasure. And the stereophony IS nice, if you dont have a pair of headphones.

You're so unhappy with this phone. :( Just sell it and buy another. ;)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Abhishek240997:
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/image-sensor/mobile-image-sensor/S5K3T1/

Check the link its written sensor is 20M i hope you understand what that means, resolution is written also you can calculate.

My old phone had corning gorilla glass 3 also and as soon as i removed the tempered it got scratches just by keeping inside the pocket. I had to look properly as the scratches were really small but scratches were actually present so its not that gorilla glass 3 is difficult to scratch or anything. Also if you want prove that poco has gorilla glass 3 just watch xiaomi's 1.5hrs launch presentation.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
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S5K3T1/

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I have never seen where it says the front camera of the pocophone is an isocell s5k3t1

Since I don't know what it is, I'll take your word for it.

So Pocophone has a Sony imx363 front camera and a Samsung isocell slim s5k3t1

(I wonder why they didn't use choose the same company for both cameras)

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Check the link its written sensor is 20M i hope you understand what that means, resolution is written also you can calculate.

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I have seen other places where it says the pocophone has a 20 megapixel front camera.

My problem is I cannot independently verify that.

I can calculate but no need to since it's already calculated on the web page!!!

but whatever picture you take with the front camera its 5 megapixels ,not 20mp.

Just took a picture of myself with the front camera - 5mp. On zooming I lose detail. So how the hell is pixel binding helping?

Can you give me three reasons why pixel binning is helping in the front camera?

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My old phone had corning gorilla glass 3 also

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You must have tempered glass on your pocophone. remove it and you will see that there's no gorilla glass.

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I had to look properly as the scratches were really small

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My scratches are big and quite disturbing...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] CHGICEMAN:
The Poco has Gorilla Glass:

https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...gorilla-glass/smartphones/xiaomi/poco-f1.html

You demand links and then do not read them!

And because you are too lazy to inform yourself what Pixel Binning means:

Pixel binning is the process of combining the data in a group of pixels, combined in a single pixel, such as: B. a 2 × 2 or 3 × 3 block. (Other combinations are also possible)

This can increase the effective sensitivity, or the relative noise in the resulting pixel can be reduced.

However, the process is a trade-off of better signal-to-noise ratio and reduced image resolution.

So you summarize each 4 pixels of a sensor together, so this total pixels rushes only marginally more than each pixel, but can record the 4-fold amount of light.

However, the horizontal and vertical resolution decreases by half each.

From a sensor that is horizontal, e.g. 4000 pixels, so no 4K but only 2K come out.

Binning, however, has other benefits. Because it is done on the sensor, correspondingly fewer scan channels are needed (e.g., only one channel per 4 pixels) and thus less computational effort.

In addition, the lens performance may be lower and only meets the needs of the binned resolution. That makes the lenses cheaper.

The binning also increases the dynamic range of the camera compared to a full reading (ie unburned) of the sensor.

However, binning also has a few drawbacks because it can cause raster effects, depending on how the manufacturer arranges the clusters, ie how the pixels are grouped together, because they do not necessarily always have to be adjacent pixels.

Binning has (compared to a downscaling) some advantages that bring big pixels with it.

The alternative would be downscaling. However, the advantages in terms of photosensitivity are lost (above all).

The full readout of a sensor is therefore not always advantageous, but often also a disadvantage.

The Poco has a real 20MP sensor but is represented by Pixel Binning on 5MP.

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Sorry my english is not that good, i wanted to write it different.

And if you do not like the link from the original Gorilla Glass website then no one can help you.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
pfavayi,

you linked (Youtube) the test on a Samsung, look the same for Poco F1. You can even use a hammer to write your SMS. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MbXEL2dhkY
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Kobra.shady:
I do not take pics in Raw, recently tried in lates F1v9.4....but if Hdr+enhanced is on then app freezes click button goes grey....but it works if Hdr+ is selected.......Is this with u too or am i missing some important settings that u need to change for Raw ???????
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
RAW works normally to me.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] xNucleusX:
Deleted photos automatically

I'm found major bugs. The potrait folder a day after I snap a few photos surprisingly disappeared. Totally shocked. No traced. Please fix this.

Also google photos does not recognise the .jpg file extension from the potrait thus can not backup through cloud. Now the photos totally lost.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pitt93:
Ok, trust in your incorrect info.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Batmany:
[MENTION=2963760]san1ty[/MENTION] Any news about gcam 6.3? Thanks.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] YC1818:
I found the root cause of this, but no one seem interesting to focus on this after I post in the poco telegram.

Hey all, another 'method' to reproduce portrait photos deleted .

Just follow below steps, u will able to reproduce the problem.

Step 1: Just take some portrait photos ,

Step 2: go check the gallery it will created a portraits folder and photos saved.

Step 3 Then, go to Gcam again ,tap the photo preview and delete 1 or 2 portrait photos,

Step 4: then go back to gallery again ,you will see the portraits folder got deleted.!!

So is better backup your portrait photo after your shots, don't leave it in the portraits folder.!!!
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
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The Poco has Gorilla Glass:

https://www.corning.com/gorillaglas...gorilla-glass/smartphones/xiaomi/poco-f1.html

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It has always been claimed that the pocophone has gorilla glass but no version has ever been given even from Corning itself.

That is extremely suspicious.

I don't think it has gorilla glass but I will just accept that it has since Corning says so even if it doesn't say which version.

Every phone that has gorilla glass has the gorilla glass version too - except the pocophone. why?

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You demand links and then do not read them!

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You provided the link above I read it and I responded.

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And because you are too lazy to inform yourself what Pixel Binning means:

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Believe me I read many articles about pixel binning and that's why I am confident enough to question a claim about pixel painting on a camera module.

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Pixel binning is the process of combining the data in a group of pixels,

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I don't know where you copy /pasted this from but it's elementary.

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The Poco has a real 20MP sensor but is represented by Pixel Binning on 5MP.

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This is the claim of a 20-megapixel sensor that I don't believe...

You cannot provide any independent verification of a 20-megapixel sensor on the front facing camera module of the pocophone F1.

And my other problem is that the front facing camera NEVER produces a 20 megapixel picture while according to Samsung it should under certain conditions. Read this shot article.

https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/image-sensor/mobile-image-sensor/S5KGW1/

A sure reason for not producing a 20 megapixel picture is if you don't have a 20 megapixel image sensor.

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Sorry my english is not that good, i wanted to write it different.

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Copy/ pasting an article doesn't need good English
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
This is my big problem. You don't get this with the 20-megapixel front facing camera module on the pocophone F1
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
Gorilla glass should behave the same on any phone - but thanks for the Poco video.

In the pocophone video they are using blunt instruments and taping lightly on the phone. From the way they're doing it any glass can withstand that hammering. It doesn't have to be gorilla glass

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If you take two portrait photos and then you delete the two photos in gcam - you will not see their folder in the phone gallery.

I tried to reproduce your problem. I followed your instructions. But I created five photos and I deleted two.

The remaining 3 can still be seen in gallery.

Which galary app you using ?

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My evergrowing information doesn't become incorrect just because you say so
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] YC1818:
If you take two photos and deleted two photos ( I assume you have only two portrait photos ) then,of cos the portraits folder will also disappear after you deleted them.

But if you have 5 photos as you mentioned, and deleted 2 of them , and go back to the phone gallery you will see the portraits folder also missing.

My point here is as long as you delete portrait photo either from the gallery or from the Gcam photo preview, the portrait folder will went missing and all your photos gone.

I am using the default/original miui gallery.

Latest Gcam 9.4a.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] ammarkun:
Wanna ask how do you solve file cannot be parsed? Tq
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
Indeed, you're right, that guy only caresses the display of Poco. :laugh: I'm only curious, do you use the phone for hammering the nails?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] PoccoF1:
Recording at 1080p/4K in 60 FPS just lag every 5 seconds. The fps decreases for a bit and then goes back to normal.

I'm using the stable last version for pocophone but I noticed it from previous versions.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
For videos, use MIUI camera. It's much better. Also use it for timelapses (4k). ;)

See here:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79821040&postcount=128

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79666281&postcount=86

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79737489&postcount=115

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=79901362&postcount=155
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] lockhrt999:
I recently shot some videos inside gym. Gcam videos look way better than the stock. Our gym has black ceiling, means low quality light. It's a hassle to get a decent video using stock cam because it's pain in the arse to increase exposure from viewfinder. Whereas in gcam it's easy to adjust exposure and it stays put.

For some reason google photos is keeping my videos in 4K instead of downsizing them to 1080p. Quality isn't set to original.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] PoccoF1:
Light on stock camera is awful. It looks so dark. That's why I prefer gcam :mad:

I also notice that gcam light looks way better in 30 FPS than 60 FPS. Hope sanity can fix this.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] roursamajor:
DECENT 4k 60 fps, you have only in MIUI camera, on Gcam is a... joke. Don't know what you mean by "light", but autoexposure for videos works way better in MIUI than in Gcam. There is also a problem (in Gcam), not fixed yet, the focus and exposure lock when you touch the screen. I don't know if it's a feature, but I would preffer auto-focus/exposure. If you mean Gcam is more sensitive in low light, yes, it is, but only just. ;)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
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But if you have 5 photos as you mentioned, and deleted 2 of them , and go back to the phone gallery you will see the portraits folder also missing.

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if the above scenario happens then try to get to portraits folder through the file manager

/SDcard/DCIM/camera

(the portrait photographs are kept as subdirectories here. (Pocophone on Android pie))

If the directory exists and contains the portrait photo then you better change your gallery application

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I am using the default/original miui gallery.

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I am using

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=photography.photo.gallery

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Latest Gcam 9.4a.

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Me too
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
I think you are activated the following. Don't activate it
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
The best camera application for low light video recording that I found is "mix camera."

You can increase the video brightness by touching the screen and moving a slider. You can try the filters too. They are great.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.camera.mix.camera

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The best camera application for low light video recording that I found is "mix camera."

You can increase the video brightness by touching the screen and moving a slider. You can try the filters too. They are great.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.camera.mix.camera
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] Vraelon:
I noticed the max bitrate under advanced settings is 100mbps. Would it be possible to add a manual button at the top or bottom of the bitrate options to enter a custom amount? Or maybe add higher values? Even with 100mbps HEVC, 4K60fps had lots of artifacts on passing signs on a roller coaster ride. I am able to record up to 120mbps without mods in OpenCamera and can go even higher if using mods. I've attached an image of a cropped video frame in the recording.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] pfavayi:
If I did it, it would be a nail bed right now...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Themes, Apps, and Mods] YC1818:
Hi , thanks for your reply, so far only you helping me to validate this bug ?.

1) I think portraits folder not created in SDcard/DCIM/camera instead created at internal storage/DCIM/camera. However, the result is same., the portrait folder will missing once you deleted any portrait photo from Gcam photo preview.

2) I am not sure if your suggested gallery app will work with the Gcam save to DCIM/Camera/Portraits folder feature since this is the default path?

Edit : Installed as suggested but results still same, portraits folder missing after delete portrait photo from Gcam photo preview.

I created a YouTube video to show how I reproduce this bug, and is very consistent everytime I try the portrait photo will go missing. You can see at the link below. Really hope [MENTION=9274840]sannn111ty[/MENTION] able to fix this bug.

https://youtu.be/ZijvdydkniU

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Yes, I actived this feature as I like it not to create so many individual folders which very mess in the gallery. Unfortunately, it didn't work as expected.

Did you able to reproduce the bugs with this feature activated? Can you help to validate?