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[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] michelino159:
Colleagues, I see that Pie didn't like you. What about Android 10. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I'm hoping to give Android 10 / One UI 2 Beta on my US Unlocked S9, with the thought that if I like it well enough, I'll let the Note 9 go to it.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] michelino159:
Correct!

Do you think the battery life has decreased or is the same as it started with Oreo? It shows me a terrible health with Pie, 79%.

Real Battery Stats for Galaxy S6

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.meowsbox.battery_stats_s6
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] michelino159:
The data are exactly the same as those found with adb.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
The battery life on this Oreo Note 9 is outstanding.

AccuBattery reports that battery health is down to 90%, but I don't notice any decline.

Unlike my S9 on Pie. AccuBattery reports that battery health is 93% but it seems to die quickly, with light use.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Yup my battery life on Oreo has been great.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sethsmaxx:
For everyone stopping ota on oreo I dont use package disabler I used to paid for it on the note 8 and then reset my phone and they deleted the app off the market and told me to buy the update again! Screw package disabler you can use ccswe and watch a video free to download.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Blackout:
Restore

Hi how do I find the correct version to flash in odin? I'm still on Oreo and I want to have the option of knowing how to restore my phone if anything goes wrong. My model is

SM-N960F. If anyone can link me to last Oreo build to have for back up that would be great.

I bought phone on Amazon because it was an exynos international for rooting so how do I know whick firmware version is correct for phone
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Search for 960F firmware
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gd761:
When Pie was sent OTA for My Unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note 9, I had downloaded and installed Pie.

Immediately afterwards, I had HATED it so Much that I Wanted to almost Smash My Phone.

Android Pie had Disabled My VoLTE and for an Unlocked Note 9, it's Turned On right out of the Box and has No Settings to Toggle On or Off. This had Infuriated Me.

Even after Updating Slingbox, it still wouldn't work at all.

I had No Text Message Notifications show up in My Car.

The Icons in OREO had a setting for Icon Frames or No Icon Frames, but that was taken away in Pie.

Have a Contact Direct Dial Shortcut and it has the Contract's Picture for the Icon, but with the Frame around the Picture it's Hard to make out the Picture especially for someone with not so good eyesight.

And talking about the Icons. They Look Cartoonish.

I just Called Samsung about the Android 10 Update for the Unlocked Note 9 and had mentioned All of the above Problems and asked if there was ANY Fix to Fix ANY of these and was told NO!

Because We Like or Love Unlocked Phones, We Have to Suffer with the Shortcomings of what Samsung and or Google determine to Screw Up by taking away and or Changing.

Not Everyone Wants a BLOATWARE laden Carrier Branded Phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
the unlocked U1 firmware got android 10 update today. i got it. and got volte on it. im so happy :svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gd761:
Do You have the Unlocked 512GB Note 9 version like I do?

Are You in the US?

Which Carrier do You have?

Can You include a Screenshot of Your Settings about VoLTE. My Settings Page Don't have Any Setting for VoLTE to Toggle On and Off.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
nah i have the n960u 128gb but flashed the unlocked U1 firmware

i am in the states with Sprint
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gd761:
I have Model # SM-N960U1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
what software version are you on right now. and if you are on the latest, did you try checking software update?

if you dont get on the update, you can always download the firmware and odin it. not gonna hurt to try
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gd761:
Here's snapshots off of My Settings.

Nowhere does it have ANY Setting to Toggle VoLTE.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gd761:
My Software Version.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
you are still on oreo thats why.

i think they put the volte on the new firmwares only.

ive had both oreo and pie before. And they didnt send out the volte option in those firmwares. so you have to go all the way to Android 10

ive waited and waited for volte in pie also so i know how you feel.

but i cant help you with oreo firmware. i know you want some features from oreo..
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
I'm still on Oreo with ARL1.

My phone is Verizon branded on Verizon service.

On my phone is not referred to as VoLTE, but Advanced Calling and HD Calling.

Try searching in settings for those.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Or you can use a free app called Alliance Shield X.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
It seems your solution requires root, which probably doesn't apply here.

If [MENTION=6775629]sethsmaxx[/MENTION] was rooted, SD Maid (Pro) has a disabling function & the developer keeps the app updated frequently & has never asked for another fee for the paid (Pro) version after the initial purchase.

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=12482608&postcount=1
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sethsmaxx:
That is correct I am using the snapdragon unlocked version note 9 and it isn't rooted, however I did just purchase the package disabler pro because Google play had a 2.00 off coupon and it was only .99 cents and I use it to freeze themes that have timer and stopping ota.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Same here on both my Note FE & T-Mobile Note 9.

I'm with ya & everyone else here who is using PDP & has paid for it on more than one occasion.

I'm happy to support a developer for their hard work, but, the folks @ PDP seem to crank out updates & only work when you pay (again) to keep current. I'm guessing I've had to buy it on minimum 3-4 times.

If they want to do a cash grab, fine, they should just make it on a subscription basis (annual) & be done with the B.S.

The only reason I keep it current is that it's a more convenient solution (non-root) vs using the ADB method of disabling/re-enabling apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] gd761:
I had Bit the Bullet as the saying goes and had Upgraded from OREO to Android 10.

During the Update Process there were Quite a Few Updates.

When I had Upgraded to Pie, there was NO selection Anywhere in the Settings for VoLTE.

But I had kept going through ALL of the Updates until I had gotten to Android 10.

While checking in the Settings after Each of the Updates, there was the Setting for VoLTE ONLY after Android 10 was Installed on My Unlocked 512GB Samsung Galaxy Note 9 that I use on Sprint.

So for Anyone who was hesitant about Upgrading because of VoLTE being Automatically Disabled after Upgrading to OREO No VoLTE Setting either, just Update All of the Monthly Security Updates until You get to Android 10 and then Check for More Monthly Security Updates until You have No More Updates at all.

Also, after Upgrading to Android 10, My Apps that wouldn't work on OREO had worked on Android 10 even though I didn't Update the Apps in the App Store.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] docdg:
So are you saying that the unlocked note 9 on sprint finally has VOLTE with the android 10 update? Just asking because it sounds to good to be true.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
unlocked as in U1 firmware ( not the regular U firmware)

it does.

ever since the android 10 update i got volte

look at my screenshot (which i posted it here again)

its not too good to be true.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] docdg:
How is the quality of the VOLTE calls? Before with the android oreo hack the voice quality was sugar honey iced tea city. Voice would notoriously cut in and out on both sides of the call.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
the "fix" in oreo firmware with Enhanced Calling used the "calling plus" implementation for Sprint.

the only problem with that was calls didnt have the high priority. so a phone call in a congested tower will not be a seamless/fluid call

volte call quality is good, and it has hd voice with the codec.

the quality would be good because volte call have highest qos priority.

Even if the tower is congested, all phone calls through volte will have uninterrupted flow.

unless everyone on the tower is making phone calls (which will very rarely happen), call quality should be good when having good to fair lte signal.

also, a phone on the edge of the tower radius will not have good quality but this will never be the case in an urban city with high tower density.

Only rural places or not so good coverage areas will have problems.

1x/cdma calls was the best quality because the signal could travel far and deep. lte signals differ
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] mystichero06:
thats strange

thats strange i herd people not liking 9 or android 10 but not because of UI one UI is better than touchwiz both performance and usability standpoint. seems like the reason why you didnt update it really just not adjusting to change vs APP's and programs not working because what you stated is actually easier with more control on android 9 and 10.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
It actually doesn't require root. I tried it.

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Because it looks like an iOS clone which is basically what Pie is
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
Cool, gonna check it out later, thanks for the heads up. :svetius:
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] docdg:
With that being said does wifi calling work on this update?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sunmybun:
yeah, wifi calling works. lol
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Invicta:
i dont understand what is it you dont fancy in the android 10 update. Mine works flawlessly, but i did a clean flash from scratch
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
There are lags here and there.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Invicta:
btw, i am on the last android 9 version, sec. patch december 2019, unrooted. Is there any way to go back to oreo, for testing purposes? i believe its impossible due to different bootloader version , right? is it possible if you are rooted?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
I believe it's impossible. Rooted maybe
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] _GRIZZLY_:
If you have S3, U3 or S4, U4 in PDA version unfortunetly back to oreo with S2,U2 is impossible via offcial Odin.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Will the ADB commands, disabling the update apps, survive a factory reset and account delete for resale?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Frick_trump:
I already answered this question from you in another thread. The answer isn't going to change.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
So.... Thanks again?

I asked in two threads about the same time.

So?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] qnc:
No they will not survive reset.

If you are selling it to someone based on the commands being completed you will need to re~enter the commands.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Thank you!

It is advantageous to know what to expect, before hand!
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] epdm2be:
Amazing how so many people ignored the op's main reason to revert back to Oreo, call recording.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Limeybastard:
And also how the OP moved on from Oreo 🤣
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] dave678:
Well he got a new phone
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] ciaox:
This is the reason im not updating to OneUI. Im keeping oreo and its updated security patches (thanks to devbase). not sure what ill do when the note 10 comes out. i cant live without xposed. even tho its on pie its not 100% stable.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I'm just gonna wait until March 2020 and buy an Exynos Note 10 so that I can have root and use a ROM with a better version of what stock One UI can give us. Before, when I wanted root, I just wanted root access only so that certain apps could work. Didn't have a desire to flash custom ROMs anymore. But after seeing this One UI stuff and what Google is restricting and doing, I'm going to be on the hunt for some custom ROMs next year.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] peekie:
Just install another launcher is the easy way , there are plenty of call recording apps and camera apps you can use , that work , rooting does kill functions on samsung phones like secure folder. Or install lineage to get a pure android
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I gotta admit, now that I've had this phone for a couple of months, I've learned to live with it not having root. It does have so many things that we had on root, but still, root is still better in so many ways. Thus, this is my last locked phone ever. I'll just start saving up for an unlocked note and get rid of this one.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOLIOSIS:
If you're still not on-board with the hole-punch displays, you may be in for a long wait, or, settle on an Exynos or International Qualcomm Note 9 (or older) :

https://www.androidauthority.com/?p=965750

Samsung says it wants to make truly bezel-less phones with embedded sensors in the future, but the technology may be more than two years away.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I decided to give Pie another try. Been back on it for several weeks. Battery started off great but lately hasn't been so great. I only have one page of apps same setup that I have used for years nothing crazy..dark theme..hibernation manager. Was averaging 7.5 to 8 hrs screen time with heavy use. But for some reason all that has changed. So I think this weekend will be going back to ARL2 Oreo.

Some have posted screen times of 10hrs, I have no idea how that is possible. Even when mine was at 8hrs that was pushing it battery would be down to 10% and I usually only let it get down to 20% and charge to 95%. So for me Oreo has always been a little better.

SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] paul_59:
I understand your desire for complete control over your phone including root .

For the first four to five years using Android phones I would root as soon as it was possible, flash custom roms and kernel.

Last several years I haven't done so, still keen on flashing Android beta and new releases but standard only.

Definitely a personal decision.

Your point about ability to root etc has been mentioned many times over the years by many on XDA, what we sometimes forget is 99.99% of Android users haven't heard of XDA or similar forums and have no desire to flash modifications or even knowledge that they can, let alone how to.

As these users are the majority then views of the infinitesimal amount of users who want total control are never going to matter to phone hardware and software makers
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
if you're not using a

n960u

n960u1

n960w

(*and i suspect the same for other brands other than samsung.)

you can root. which is like 65 % or more!?.( typically carrier bought devices apart from those in north america, you can root)

what is great is that there is still a choice. it's just that people buy the wrong model. and if you buy the wrong model then ure just as prone to screw up rooting...

so all in all i don't see any issues... when you know what you are doing.

now the the real culprit at hand here is the americain phone carriers. they are the ones wanting to clock down the device.

by boycotting them and buying an international version that is rootable, you're making a statement. Moreover, money is the single most effective factor to them. if phone carriers dont get their monthly cut on devices you enroll to purchase on contract with them, and they see a hike in byod, they might change they're mentality a bit.

anyways its all in the individual's skill level at understanding what is going on and how to take control.

this is a basic truth in all things in life.

i dont think we should consider the iphone phone a smart phone.

just look at the name, its the only company that actually needs to put what the device is in its name.

so i think its a dumb phone for fruity people...

btw its an America company made device and lo and behold, its locked.

so the issue is with the mentality of north America. they want to herd the masses. Im guilty of being a citizen but i pride my self into going agaisnt the grain.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sefrcoko:
I agree in theory but honestly I don't think there are enough root users to make a difference compared to the millions who will buy whatever device their carrier sells.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] bober10113:
but the fact remains that all people complaining about not having root should realise their folly. its them that bought the wrong phone.

its like complaining to be fat when you eat 3 times a day at mc donalds.

edit:

yeah you can get the healthy menu. which in this analogy would be the international bootloader unlockable device, or as the example above of people complaining, the grease menu because they dont know better locked bootloader device.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] sefrcoko:
Agreed :)
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] K-alz:
I've disabled software updates on the phone and the battery has been much better ever since. Now I'm getting 10 hours easily.

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Absolutely agree. The number of "expert" users doesn't really matter. Even those few ones should take action. Some action is always better than none. I'm personally never buying a phone through a carrier ever again until they allow us to do whatever the hell we want with our phones. And if tmobile ever sends me a deal, I'll just tell them the reason why I won't be taking it. Even if it doesn't mean sh$# to them, I'll still bring it up just to plant the seed.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] patensas:
Anyone willing to explain how security updates act when going back to Oreo? Latest Oreo build for my country has the December patch, will I be stuck on that or can we update them somehow?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
1st thing I do is disable soft ware updates after a new flash. It was great at 1st but now its just ok..lol. I love reading all the different views without people bickering..great to see guys..[emoji106]

Sent from my Still Rooted NOTE 8

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Couldn't agree more, we are rare indeed. I have been flashing since the OG Note 1 and still have it to this day.

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE

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I believe your security update will depend on which build you are on. If I'm wrong someone chime in. Say if you odin the latest ARL2 you will be on the security update for that build.

Sent from my SM-N935F Note FE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammol:
Ya know, I've been thinking a lot about why a manufacturer, or carrier wouldn't want their device rooted. And all I can think of, and by far I completely agree with it, is that it would be a major security and privacy issue if it turns out that rooting a device, exposes your device to a litany of security issues.

I'm not saying that it does, but what I'm saying is, if a major hack was to occur due to rooting, I wouldn't want my company being held liable for allowing it to happen in the first place. That would really crush all aspirations of being successful as a trusted provider of services in an age where most people freely use their mobile devices to handle things a computer used to be exclusively used for.

So it makes me wonder, what if that is the reason so many companies are moving away from allowing bootloader unlocking and rooting as a whole? They don't want to be liable id something does happen. Makes sense to me. If I wanted to keep my ass covered financially from any possible fault, I would request a phone maker to disable any form of weak point that could lead to data breaching.

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Correct. There is no other way to get the latest security fixes other than to update the provided OS. The only other way there could be, is if Google were to dedicate a team to patching older OS versions with the fixes to security vulnerabilities, but that doesn't always work out as there could be fixes that just cannot be implemented in older code.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
Hello. I have a Verizon branded Note 9.

I have turned off auto update in developer options and auto update for security patches.

I have installed AdHell 3.1 and disabled the there system update apps.

All this in an attempt to block PIE OTA.

I don't like many of its features and am not interested in getting used to them.

[MENTION=441716]Raod[/MENTION]uardo, [MENTION=4685262]adamlee2012[/MENTION] & [MENTION=4496829]butchieboy[/MENTION]

Which version Note 9 do you have?

What procedure do you use to downgrade?

Which firmware and download source do you use?

[MENTION=8341021]ciaox[/MENTION]

Which version Note 9 do you have?

What method are you using to prevent OTA update?
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
I have At&t Note 9 CSB3 I use Package disabler to disable software updates and any apps including some system apps I do not use. But will be heading back to Oreo later tonight.

SM-N960U ONE UI PEACAN PIE
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] KingVekxin:
No hate to anyone doing it but it just gets me that there's a whole thread about not wanting to deal with pie... I get it but at the same time there's gonna be phone's that aren't on the older versions. It just naturally gonna happen
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] pizza_pablo:
What procedure will you use to downgrade?

Which firmware and download source will you use?

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Just because their trying to feed the pie to me, doesn't mean I want to eat it. I don't like a lot of the pie aesthetics or many of the new "features", not to mention the bugs.

I didn't want any part of lollipop and I never had a phone running it. Of course that task was much simpler, back then.
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion] butchieboy:
Use Odin. Will downgrade to ARL2

Sent from my Still Rooted NOTE 8

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As long as a device is still on Boot loader S1 or U1 doesnt matter if its new or not. It can still be downgraded to Oreo that is on boot loader S1 or U1. The latest Pie is still on U1 boot loader.

Sent from my Still Rooted NOTE 8