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[TouchPad General] Dishe:
I'm noticing similar issues. Sometimes it seems to run great, but some apps really seem to choke on loading (even ones that run on other devices with limited RAM)and sometimes get stuck. My kids are using Simply Piano and sometimes it works fine, sometimes it seems pre-occupied with something else and slows down. Often a quick toggle of the power button returns functionality, other times it needs a complete reboot.

It's still usable for us, but I'd love to know if there's a way to make it run better and more reliably. I also chose the 1GB swap partition flash. I'm guessing the 512mb one wouldn't help, right? I have an inkling to try it because maybe by forcing less swapping in the background, it won't try to do as much in the background? Sure apps that need oodles of memory won't like that but I'm not even running those.

Or maybe we should try a different rom? I can tell you that this is already a lot better than the Lineage rom this thing was running before, but there's still something off sometimes.

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Oh, also my camera never works. You said you recommended this Evervolv because among other things, it actually works with the camera. But this has not been my experience. The stock camera app does not open, so I tried Open Camera upon the suggestion of other users. It still won't start the camera. I didn't try Zoom but I don't think it will work if other camera apps don't either.

Interesting that Evervolv 7.1 is so flawless for you - I wish I could figure out what you are doing differently. I used the 1GB partition zip, followed by Evervolv, then the Maxtreme CPU zip (don't remember which one I'm running currently, one of the 17xx mhz ones). I've only installed a handful of apps, mostly Simply Piano, a library of old texts app for studying, and then a handful of games which were tried and then deleted when they did not run.
[TouchPad General] Geomatic:
Did you install Google Apps?

Gesendet von meinem Mi MIX 2S mit Tapatalk
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Everyon use the Tablet differently, meaning with different set up and Apps. It is obvious that it will not perform the same for everyone.

The tablet will play some games, but better if they are pay (with no advertisement), anything free will use more resources, but is not a game device.

The internet media has not change is just picture, text and video. The only big difference is the auto playing ADDS and tracking.

The Zoom test was done with only the ROM install and the Zoom App. I was able to do video with no interruption for over 2 hours.

Is impossible that the Tablet will work the same as a recent smartphone or that all the Apps can also be install. But if use properly it works perfectly !
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Yes I know. I'm not expecting it to act like a modern phone. I'm expecting it to at least act like a device it's age. Like I said before, simple games and apps worked on a older weaker spec froyo device. When this is running well, it is smoother than that device. The problem is sometimes it is not running well. Something is not ironed out. It's not a matter of "well some games work" because one worked when I tried it and then I tried it again yesterday and it wouldn't make it to the loading screen.

Also my camera doesn't turn on for any app. It's like we're not running the same OS.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
There was a video tutorial that showed someone installing Kitkat first and then newer ROMs over it. Is it possible some of our discrepancies in experience come from how it is flashed?
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Yes- Pico as recommended to keep it light. Is that what's bothering it? Are you guys with positive experiences not using the play store? One of the apps I'm using is a paid app, I think it needs the Play Store to install the first time.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
If your Tablet camera does not work using Evervolv 7.1.2, then try Lollipop or Kitkat to test the camera. If it does not work with those ROMS then the camera hardware is broken.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Old Android ROMS were installed first as the TP Toolbox allow only specific version of Kikat and Recovery to be flash. After that was up and running then a newer ROM is flash.

But it does not help or improve in any way. Every time a different ROM is flash ( install ) the system partition gets formatted ( all the Operating system Data is gone )

Is like reformatting the hard drive each time an operating system gets install. There is no " upgrade " process that keeps some files.

There is a lot of information out there, that are not accurate.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The Play store will slow down the Tablet some times, but it all depends on the specific Apps install. Some Apps are very intrusive and use a lot of memory in the background.

Only install Apps that really get use. Avoid running weather Apps, social media or anything that is constantly been updated.

Check how much free memory is available and the background process running,
[TouchPad General] smithylovestouchpad:
Do you know how to use an .apk extractor so you can side load the .apk without the Play Store?

If you will set up your profile so I can PM you, I can feed you some information.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
I'm aware and did not install any apps that do polling in the background. No weather apps, no social media, nothing like that. It's just this piano app, a documents app (basically an e-reader for researching and marking up ancient texts that I'm studying), and then a game or two to reward the kids after practicing piano. Classics like Jetpack Joyride, Cut the Rope, etc, because my kids still love that, and it has worked on almost every Android device I've ever tried dating back to Kitkat, but for some reason freezes upon the loading screen here. Can you try either of those games and let me know if they work for you?

Some games, like Where's My Water loaded up the first time or two, but then the third time froze on the loading screen like the others. It is very bizarre.

I've done this with my Kindles, using APK Extractor on my phone and then sending it to the kindle. I'm not 100% sure it will work with the piano app I'm using, however. It is a commercial app that I paid for, and it may require some play store integration, perhaps Google Play services or some nonsense like that. I'll have to look into it, there's a chance it does not need this but I'm guessing it does (I sign in using our google account when setting it up to verify our account).

I actually wouldn't mind not having the play store if it runs better without it. But I think I might need it for certain apps to run. I'm not entirely sure.

Am I unable to receive PMs? That's so odd because I used to use it all the time when I was more active here over a decade ago. As far as I can tell it still works...
[TouchPad General] smithylovestouchpad:
OK, up in the top right corner of the page you will see a little circle with a figure in it. Click on that and select "settings". Next page, look down the left hand side and click on "Edit Options". Scroll down to the section that reads "Private messaging". You should find the boxes to enable private messaging are not checked. Mine are checked and I am able to see the "PM" option when I click on my screen name.

Smithy
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I am not a gamer, but I did use several games for testing performance, the most resource demanding game was HEARTHSTONE® by Blizzard Entertainment, this is the guide:

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/how-to-play-hearthstone-blizzard-t3924170

With the provided optimizations, I was able to play it using 7.1.2, 8 and 9 versions of Android. But the games get updates almost every two weeks and start consuming more resources and now it fails to play.

Another game is Pinball Arcade:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farsight.AndroidPinball.javaProject

I have not try the latest version but it worked a couple of month ago.

And Run Race 3D:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mgc.runnergame

Due to the extensive use of Adds the game will play perfectly by turning wifi off.

Games are constantly been updated and a game from 5 years ago is not the same as the current version.

If you find the exact same game version used back then it will work very fast, but it must be try on the same old Android version otherwise it could have problems working correctly.

Always check how much memory is been use and kill all background process before playing.
[TouchPad General] JShan:
So I followed all directions in the OP as best I could (including optional steps), and installed JCSullins CM KitKat rom. I used 1674 for all the frequencies. Seems to be working, except... the screen is flashing betwen a regular Android screen and a blue screen of death in rapid and irregular ways. This did not happen before with previous installation of Android. Did something go wrong? Did I do something wrong? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The issue with Kitkat's flickering screen, only happens with the HpTp_MaXtreme Kernel ( any frequency )

Whit the MaxTreme settings there is more RAM allocated to the system to get close to 1 GB, same as with the other ROMs. Kitkat is the only ROM that may experience the flashing blue screen, it does not happens with the other ROMs. This maybe due to the Memory allocation for the display driver, it is also an older Android version that manages device memory differently.

If you are having issues with Kitkat after flashing the HpTp_MaXtreme kernel, then just flash the HpTp_MAX ( any frequency ).

There is no need to reflash the ROM, any of the kernels and frequencies can be flash at any time, it does not modify the original ROM in any way.
[TouchPad General] JShan:
Actually, a good old fashioned reboot of the tablet seems to have done the trick. Thanks. Related question - should I assume that other ROMs will be more laggy than Kit Kat using this system? Would love to upgrade, but at other times, all newer versions of Android I've tried has been super slow.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
It is always best to do a reboot after setting up the Tablet for the first time or after bee used for a while.

The concept of this thread and the files provided, is to show how great and fast All ROMs created by different developers works on the Hp Touchpad.

The difference comes in the Gapps flashed and the Apps installed. Newer version of Android OS provides more features using extra resources.

None of the ROMs are change or modified.

The settings take place in the Kernel and Ramdisk and are applied to ALL the ROMs in the same way, making all the ROMs perform very similar or almost the same.

Flashing any ROM on the HP Touchad is way too easy and guarantee that will work 100% plus the Tablet will not get brick.

There is no need to do the Automatic_Wipe everything time to flash a new ROM, it only needs to be done one time.

Download any ROM you want to try with the Master Files for each ROM and flashed it on the order listed.

Always use the highest frequency your Tablet can handle for the best performance.

You will be surprise how fast all the listed ROM works!
[TouchPad General] JShan:
This is all super helpful. Thank you! Last question - it may have been described at the beginning of the thread, but I couldn't quite figure it out. How do I figure out the highest frequency that my tablet can handle? Can you spell it out for a noob like me? :) Thanks!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The Tablets were made using parts from different vendors and some can achieved to be overclock as high as 1836.

If you do not know the highest frequency of your tablet, use the lowest of 1674 to setup the Tablet for the first time, it guarantee to boot into Android.

After Android has been set up, then reboot into TWRP and flash the highest 1836, if the Tablet fails and freeze then do a hard reset.

Boot into TWRP and flash the next down until you get into Android, or it can be done the other way around, start from low to high.

If problems of reboots and hard freeze happens after using a higher frequency then flash a lower.

There is no need to reflash the ROM, just the kernel file, is that simple.

With the settings from this thread the Tablet is setup as a Desktop PC or Laptop. In that environment the CPU (processor ) is overclock in the BIOS and boot into the OS.

The user does not need to do anything, the operating system will use the highest frequency from the CPU only when need to and the other times it will stay idle.

On the tablet with this Kernel settings is done the same way. The idle settings should be 384, it goes as low as 192 and the maximum to 1836 depends on the frequency flashed.

There is no need to install any Kernel App in Android as their is no CAP or limits on the frequency. The only thing those Apps do is apply a governor and place a cap on the CPU speed, making the device slow.

You are welcome! any other question or issue just post it, we all learn from questions and answers.
[TouchPad General] muerte33:
Are there any of the HP Touchpad ROMs that are still getting Android security updates?

Thanks
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I am not aware of any ROM that is been updated with security updates.

There is good chance that security update could break some functionality and the update will be worse than what it will fix.

Personally I do not see any advantage of keeping the ROM on a TOY Tablet up to date.

The HP Touchpad is the most secure device you will ever have!

Backup the Tablet with TWRP, takes a couple of minutes, save the backup on PC.

Do what ever you want and explore anything, go to the worse places on the net, do what other can not do.

Restore the Tablet from file from PC, is like brand new again and takes a couple of minutes.

The Tablet will never get brick and will always work, no matter what.
[TouchPad General] uncuthkid:
I stumbled upon a couple of Hp Touchpads I had, both were running CM12 nightly by Milaq. I decided to wipe and start fresh, take advantage of the new optimize and swap settings. I went with jcsullins cm 12.1, HpTp_MAX 1674 I think it was and the pico 5.1 ARM gapps. Took a bit to reload tptoolbox and novacomm. But followed the tutorial. The touchpad amazingly enough seems responsive and performing at a decent speed. Thanks for the great post. I'll see if I can revive the other Touchpad I have.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Great to know that the hard to die Tablets are back to work!

All the ROM's listed here perform very well, make sure to use the HpTp_MaXtreme kernel for the Maximum Extreme settings.

It is best to use the highest frequency your tablet will take, 1836 been the fastest.

The easiest way to use the Novacom driver is using this guide:

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android-t3960435

The others Tablets should be able to reincarnate into a 100% Android Tablet with swap and be use like never before!

Thanks for your feedback !
[TouchPad General] sembitvea:
I want to thank HP_TOUCHPAD for his post which allowed me to bring my tablet back to life. Thank you for your work, your feedback and your regular updates. Have a good day ! :cool:
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
[MENTION=8319689]sembitvea[/MENTION], You are very Welcome !

This device has proven that when the "users" come together and offer their help in any way, can outperform any corporation.

For almost 10 years, it has been getting updates and technical support. All has been done by the dedication of many developers and the XDA web site.

Thanks for providing the feedback that it worked !
[TouchPad General] JustSomeone1234:
Thank you for the thread.

I am a bit lost and if you could help me that would be appreciated.

I have installed the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android and used it to open the Touchpad Toolbox on my Touchpad. Now I am trying to flash Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with _Swap.

I am using the option in Toolbox that says "Install Android", it mounts my touchpad as a usb drive and I copy the zip file and the TWRP recovery I copied from the guide.

However, it then says "unrecognized/unsupported zip". I know that it says I am supposed to also copy a GAPPs file at this point but I am not doing that since I do not know what to include for this.

Am I doing something wrong in regards to flashing the Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with _Swap?

Thank you,
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The only thing to flash is Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap.

Is that simple.
[TouchPad General] JustSomeone1234:
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
You are welcome!

Post any other questions you may have.

All the instructions may seen complicated, but basically is to download the zip files.

Transfer the files to zip to the Tablet and flash them in the specific order using TWRP.

The only thing to do is select and flash, nothing else.

The main zip file contains all the files require for each ROM. It mus be un-zip first on PC, then copy each zip file to Tablet.

Have fun flashing !
[TouchPad General] Chromatic:
Hi guy,

I started to update my previous Android version, I was using Clockworkmod for flashing Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android zip file, then reboot to TWRP. When installing the ROM, I had the following error:

"E1001: Failed to update system image

Updater process ended with ERROR: 7

Error installing zip file '/external_sd/INSTALL/ev_tenderloin-9-userbuild-2019.08.30.zip

"

After exiting Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android, I should say I must have rebooted the device and I noticed the internal storage was still the same.

Any idea what could possibly went wrong ?

Thanks for your help

Edit: and what happen when I reflash Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android through TWRP? Well partitions are now gone (data so, but anyway...) so it seems that I am on the good way

Edit 2: wow, the tablet is seen by my laptop. What about pushing some files in the tablet now ?

Edit 3: unable to install the Optimize_Swap.zip file, and I reboot the tablet on the ROM (yay!). But when rebooting... black screen, nothing is reacting except when vol down + power + control button (tablet is connected to the laptop). Digging into the Optimize_Swap.zip file, I understand why it wasn't installing: there are some zip inside the archive (RTFM, man...). Now trying to solve this non reboot issue...
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Optimize_Swap.zip is a collection of all the files that must be flash individually in the tablet. Is done that way to make it easier for a single click download.

Make sure to flash the files in that specific order, all can be flash at the same time. After the first boot into the Android Welcome screen, the Tablet is not set up as a totally brand new device, all should work.

Have fun flashing !
[TouchPad General] Chromatic:
Hmm... AFAI understand, the different files (1512, 1674, 1728,1782 and 1836) are the CPU speed, right?

All of them must be flashed or should I choose one, based on my performance expectations ?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Only one CPU speed needs to be flash.

The Tablet original clock speed is 1200, it was then overclock to 1512 and then finally to maximum of 1836.

Not all tablets can handle the same overclock speed, that is the reason of providing different present frequencies and also to not need to install any Android App to just change it.

If you you do not know the maximum frequency the tablet can handle start with 1674, after setting up Android for the first time then reboot into TWRP and flash a higher frequency. If the tablet fails to boot into Android or freeze while using it then reduce the speed, at any time a different speed can be flash there is no need to re flash the ROM.

To get the most performance flash the MaXtreme kernel version and the highest CPU speed.

Most important do not install any App to optimized any settings in Android. The tablet is now set up as a laptop or PC and not as a mobile device, keep it charging at all time that is not in use.
[TouchPad General] Chromatic:
Well noticed!

Now the board is charging (I got an inductive charger for about 10$ few years ago...) and it seems to work pretty well.

F-Droid and Blokada on tracks ;)

With Aurora Store installed, I tried some free games but I encountered some force close... maybe the overclocking?

Thanks [MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION] for the help and all the informative threads !
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Overclocking helps to speed all Apps, does not prevent from running. If the tablet can not handle the overclock speed it will reboot or freeze.

The issue with games is the amount of memory that is required to run. Most free games use extensive use of advertisement and that is what slow down or even prevents from running. To test the game do the following:

If the game does not required an internet connection to work then disconnect from WiFi and then run the game.

If the game runs with no issues, then the problem is related to how the advertisement was program into the App.

The Tablet does not work well with games as the new update version of games require more memory and load more Ads. A game from over 5 years ago is not the same game if it got updated recently.
[TouchPad General] Chromatic:
Hm... I wasn't expecting Minecraft to work on it, for sure ;)

But small apps and Scratch for the kids.

Seems like NewPipe isn't very responsive, that's a shame... Or maybe settings should be adjusted? Do you guys have tweaks for NewPipe on Touchpad?

Regards
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Android is free and many apps ( games) are also free, but at a cost of collecting data and working in the background. Even if a game is not running does not mean is activate and collecting data while other apps are been use. That is why is important to run the tablet as lean as possible with only the apps that will be use.

The Tablet can be set up many ways, and can not be compare in performance as everyone has it loaded differently.

The attached screenshot is of Evervolv 9 ( Pie ) HpTp_MaXtreme 1836_CPU, Rom reducer and the Aurora Store:

New Pipe version v0.19.3 ( the most current as of today )

The settings in NewPipe are set to maximum of 1080, which the Tablet can handle with no problem, very smooth the movie plays as if is store locally with 0 lag.

Is very important that the tablet has a clean and fast connection to the router as the apps depends on internet speed to perform.
[TouchPad General] Chromatic:
[MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION], ok so the only difference with your config is I use a slower CPU speed and I haven't run ROM Reducer... And it is unable to play mpeg4 streams, nor WebM or 3gp...

Need to spend a little more time on this

Edit: ROM reducer run... and my system is laggy :( Even without the gapps installed and with a 1GB swap

I think I'm gonna start from scratch
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Take a look here at some videos I did while testing the settings.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKoir6bzzPU-Uq9UjcRR3hw

Make sure all the zip files are flash in the listed order.

New Pipe can be install with just the basic ROM, that will allow it to use the full resources of the Tablet with no interruptions.
[TouchPad General] Chromatic:
Hmm... seems like Blokada isn't helping this Touchpad that much!