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[TouchPad General] Jharm:
Hello, and thank you for your detailed replies. I have tried every you mention here and in you previous response, except for the Live Linux CD. I will give that a try and get back to you all. Thanks again.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
If the partitions are not set up properly can not be mounted.

If the first time the Wipe_All could not completely erase all the partitions then it must be flash again.

If the TPToolbox is use to repartitions then the swap partition will not be created.

The swap partition is only created under TPToolbox when setting the Tablet to use WebOS and then Android.
[TouchPad General] WangGang:
Right, but its impossible to flash it a second time since it wipes all data from the tablet, and I can't mount the device to transfer the file.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The Wipe_All can be flash many times as it always create Recovery ( TWRP ) in moboot,

It will never render the Tablet useless, make sure the Tablet is not connected to PC when Wipe_All is active.

The USB cable must be disconnected from PC when Wipe_All is loaded.

Wipe_All can be loaded with the novacom driver same as the TPToolbox. There is no need to connect to PC to copy files over, it loads into memory.
[TouchPad General] WangGang:
But flashing the wipe_all file removes the wipe_all file from the tablet? How would I be able to flash it?
[TouchPad General] Nomad1600:
btw, I am up and running with the Evervolv ROM. Everything now appears to be correctly partitioned. Thanks again!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Great to know!

If you want a faster CPU speed, just flash the other Kernels 1782 or 1836, do it one at a time, if it freeze just reboot and used previous.

All Touchpad CPU can not handle the same speed, if you are lucky you can run it at 1836, but even 1728 will do the job.
[TouchPad General] adwd3509:
Can I use Evervolv 8.1 with this setup. Less trouble than DU. Video will not play for me with DU. They will play using the last Evervolv 8.1.
[TouchPad General] Nomad1600:
Thanks, just flashed 1782 and it seems a bit smoother. Will try a week then try 1836.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The Evervolv 8.1 will not work with the current setup as there is no specific Kernel modified to use the swap partition.

I did tried the Evervolv 8.1 build, but it has serious bugs that are fix in Dirty Unicorns. One of them is the use of battery saver.

Activate battery saver, then deactivate it and the tablet will immediately reboot. It is not stable.

The two ROMS provided are the latest and I have test them and can assure it will perform.

If you follow the guide exactly "as is" youtube videos will play in the Android native app and in a browser with maximum performance.

Can you be more specific what videos you are not allow to play in DU?

I would like to replicate the error and possibly a work around it.

Here is a link to a youtube video showing DU playing video and recording the same at 30 frames per second.

Click here for Dirty Unicorns playing video using swap and optimize

Click here for Evervolv playing video using swap and optimize
[TouchPad General] Touchie Pad:
I have been trying the swap partitions out with some other Roms as well.....this one in particular works super........ a lineage os build by jshafer817 https://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2735699 20180906 build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sc9Y2Yp5yHAet9VxmZi7FjNdtfpV2jgT/view -2 or -3 ma drain in standby and excellent speeds. It wont have all the optimizations that hp_touchpad has included in the DU and Evervolv builds, but they weren't the smoothest somehow for me. There is an add on su that allows root, would it be possible to optimize this build completely as well?
[TouchPad General] samgu:
Thank you [MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION] and all involved in this project. It's amazing to see a result like that with our Touchpads!! You guys are the best!!

Just for curiosity, is it possible to say one ROM runs better than the other? I see people installing both, so it's just a matter of preference, or are there significant differences?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
All the ROMS use somewhat of the same setting from Kernel and Ramdisk. Is up to the user to apply the settings using Apps inside Android. But not everyone uses the same app or apply the same settings and that is when it gets controversial. Some saying one ROM performs better than the other. If the optimal settings are apply to the Kernel and Ramdisk then everyone will notice the change in speed and usability and there is no need to make any changes inside Android, is all optimize out of the BOX. That is why I provided the SKz Kernel optimized and the swap partition. If the user has a CPU that can handle a higher frequency then it can flash the other Kernels. Not all TP can handle the same CPU frequency.

Evervolv is a full ROM even the camera works. If you need to use the camera then use Evervolv.

Dirty Unicorn is the last version available. If you need to use the latest an no need for the camera then use Dirty Unicorns.

By using the Skz Kernel optimize for swap, both ROMS have the same optimal settings and will perform the same when it comes to speed and usability. Those setting are apply in the boot uImage and does not change the ROM in any way.

There is a lot we can do with the Touchpad and some simple setting makes a huge difference.
[TouchPad General] samgu:
I followed your tutorial line by line with the DU ROM and it definitely runs a lot better than before. I will run for a few days and try EV just to see how it goes.

Thank you again for this wonderful guide!!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
You are very welcome!

The most important is that you have successfully created the swap partition and using the Skz kernel optimize for swap. If your tablet can use the 1836 frequency then flash it, nothing posted or that you can flash will brick the tablet. It will just freeze and then you can do a hard reset and flash the previous Kernel.

Push it to the limits, is a solid build device it can handle it very easily !
[TouchPad General] lipenheimer@gmail.com:
Phun W0W!

So glad to have this.

All the charging issues are gone on both stock charger and stock charger via HP Touchpad and Dock's induction coil. The tablet has been booted since I flashed it with no issues at all really.

Seems quite schwing on the SKZ (thanks shumash!) optimized for swap at 1782. Goes unstable at 18xxmhz

You people rock.

So appreciated. Thanks.

Lip Lip Lip
[TouchPad General] Volchief:
This worked really well. But what do I need to do to use mail with Exchange account? Active Sync does not seem to be under accounts.
[TouchPad General] Gborg3:
[MENTION=4124133]Volchief[/MENTION]

The directions I am finding online and the way I am having success with an Outlook email address on latest Evervolv N 7.1.2 build (ev_tenderloin-7.1.2-nightly-2017.11.03.zip) with swap partition and SKZ_Swap_Optimize_Tenderloin_Kernel_Evervolv_Cpu_Freq_1836000.zip

If you are running DU or EV 8.x then I can not advise as I do not have those running my TouchPad. Still feel welcome to try following these steps and report outcomes on 8.x if you like..

1. Go to Settings on your Android device.

2. Select Accounts.

3. Scroll down and select Add account.

4. Select Exchange.

5. Now you need to input the settings for your e-mail account.

User Information

Email: Enter your e-mail address

Password: Enter the password to your e-mail account

Now click on Manual setup.

Add

6. Now you need to fill in some more settings.

Domain\username: Domain\Username

Domain: Enter your domain (after the @ sign)

Username: Enter your username (before the @ sign)

Exchange server: imap-mail.outlook.com

Use secure connection (SSL): Yes

Now click on Next.

Exchange server settings

7. Now your device will verify the settings.

8. Once verification is complete, you'll be able to choose what to sync to your device and also the period. Then click on Next.

Account options

9. Finally, enter a description of the account you just added. This is used to identify accounts in the list of accounts on your device.

Account name

12. Now you've added your e-mail account with Exchange ActiveSync, you now have the ability to synchronize email, contacts and calendars from webmail to your Android device.
[TouchPad General] BGrosse:
Did you tried out EV 7.1.2 against the DU 8.1 ROM? I did some testing on both wifi ROMs and found one of my apps (Netatmo weather station) pushes the 8.1 current drain in standby to about 200mA. "OK" I thought by myself - turn off wifi and it should be OK. But unfortunately in DU 8.1 ROM there's no more option to turn off wifi when in sleep. So i turned wifi off manually but the high current drain remains. Removing the app and let everything as it is drops the current drain to a hand full of mA. Repeated the installation of the app and the current drain is there again. Removing the app again let the current drop down. I don't know what is going wrong here, but at least I was able to track it down to this app, although the app produces no such problems on my smartphone or any other tablet running EV 7.1.2 build (wifi or 4G). It must have something to do with DU 8.1.

Also I found the 8.1 ROM to be a little less snappy compared with the mature EV 7.1.2 ROM. Better of course with the new partition (no reboots, no instability or anything else worse like with the old kind of partitioning), but 7.1.2 runs even better for me with the same setup of apps and settings.

So I actually prefer to go with EV 7.1.2 ROM. Just my experience. Maybe some more of you guys got the same experience.

[MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1009123]shumash[/MENTION]: do you have a 4G SKZ kernel available for the EV 7.1.2 ROM with new partitioning? My 4G Test pig can handle speeds up to 1892MHz! :D
[TouchPad General] shumash:
You can try this. I have no idea if it will work or even boot.
[TouchPad General] BGrosse:
Hi [MENTION=1009123]shumash[/MENTION]! Thank you very much for this! Highly appreciated - I'm afraid it would take additional years for me to setup the compiler toolchain and produce my own kernels/ROMs - if ever. :eek:

This kernel is much more lighter than your other 4G SKZ kernels for the 7.1.2 EV ROMs at their times. Do you have a clue on that?

I will test and report back - just need some time. :fingers-crossed:
[TouchPad General] Steelskinz:
Will the kernel works on https://download.dirtyunicorns.com/...n/Rc/du_tenderloin-v13.0-20190315-1502-RC.zip ?? Thanks.
[TouchPad General] BGrosse:
Would wonder if... I think DU 13 is a build of Pie, not Oreo. Flashing kernel files from Android 7 or 8 builds on a 9 ROM would be more than "dirty"... :eek:

I heard that flintman has got a first pie build already last year, but saw it never released. Now DU released a new build. Hmm... Anyone with inside infos?

Eventually [MENTION=1009123]shumash[/MENTION] or [MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION] can build a new kernel for this ROM with the new partitioning. But as this ROM is brand new, we should test it the standard way first to see if it can be a daily driver or not. Just my 2 cents...
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The Wipe_All is a uImage same as TWRP and TPToolbox.

All those gets loaded into memory using the nocacom driver. That is why of the Linux LIVE CD it makes it easy with just one click all is done, it can be use from a virtual machine.

Loads into Memory, delete all partitions, re-create all partitions and create /boot with TWRP. All that is possible because is on Memory and not in the storage.

One click and flash Wipe_All, TPToolbox and even Debrick a Tablet is only one click.

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-debrick-linux-live-cd-t4189245

The HP Touchpad is the easiest Device to set up and can not be brick no matter what the user does, is un-brick-able.
[TouchPad General] WangGang:
So you're saying I should use a bootable USB(w/ Linux) to flash the wipe_all file again?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
These two bootable Linux LIVE CD, has all the files with the novacom driver to fix, repair, debrick or do anything to the Tablet.

It helps as the novacom drivers eventually will stop working on new Operating System.

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-debrick-linux-live-cd-t4189245

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android-t3960435

If you already have Windows with a working novacom driver then you can follow this guide that flash Wipe_All using novacom:

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/rom-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861

You have all the options, whatever is easier for you the outcome will be the same.

The problem that windows did not mount the Tablet is because the partitions did not get set up properly the first time Wipe_All was flashed.

All Tablets have been used differently and the partitions layout varies, but all of them can be reset and repartitions.

Try it one more time and it should work.
[TouchPad General] WangGang:
So I don't know why and I don't know how but I managed to get MTP working through TPToolbox, so I just transferred the files through that and flashed the ROM and the other stuff.
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
Congrats! I'm still working on mine, ?.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
If the TPToolbox is loaded and the partitions recreated then it will mount the Tablet in PC.

The TPToolbox does not create a swap partitions in Android, flashing any ROMs on this guide will not take advantage of swapping and will have problems.

It is recommended to re-flash Wipe_All until the PC sees the Tablet.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Just re-flash Wipe_All again, that is all needs to be done !
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
I've tried many things, but I think it's a faulty port. Last night I tried Live CD, TPToolbox, and nothing picks up the device. Only one PC with errors as before mentioned. Since I don't all have the Wipe All files in the device or storage, and I can't find a way to transfer it, I'm not able to run the Wipe All as you suggest.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Your Tablet is perfectly fine and it will be up and running with only one click, that is all it takes.

1. Download the following Linux Live CD.

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-debrick-linux-live-cd-t4189245

To flash Wipe_All it can be run from a Virtual Machine or a USB boot drive ( your choice )

If you have novacom driver install on your PC it can be done that way, but it will take some extra steps.

Once the Operating system is up and running ( Linux )

With the Tablet OFF.

2. Press and hold the Volume down Key ( The closer to power )

3. Connect Tablet to PC with the USB cable ( while holding the Volume down Key )

( The white USB symbol comes up on the Tablet screen ) On this mode anything can be loaded onto to Memory.

4. Click on the Repair folder on the Linux ( Ubuntu desktop )

5. Click on the Wipe_All_Create_Android_with_500MB_Swap.sh ( select run in Terminal )

Once the Wipe_All is loaded on the Tablet, removed the USB cable from PC.

When done, it will boot into the moboot menu, select Recovey.

6. Plug Tablet USB Cable to PC running the Linux Live CD.

Tablet will be recognize.

All Done !
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
Followed your detailed instructions to the T! I believe they are the same instructions on your other post (in the link you provided above). But unfortunately, whether its in Nova or Live CD( on the link you provided) it will not recognize or transfer anything to memory. I'll include an image of my screen in the live CD ( linux). I love your optimism but I truly believe, after excuse all options that it's a faulty usb port( this is an almost 10 year old device after all). I will keep attempting all the steps you previously mention and report back of I have any updates.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Thank you for the picture, it helps a lot..

You are doing a Debrick, that is not what you need to do.

The Tablet is not brick.

You need to click on the Repair folder and click on the Wipe_All.

Also make sure the USB cable supports DATA.
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
Just tried that and still no luck. Could be the cable but I've tried 10 different ones, so I doubt it. Tried a different types of volume down/up, power, home and no difference. I'll keep trying.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
That is the correct mode to set the Tablet with the USB symbol. There is nothing more to do or change on the Tablet.

Make sure the USB cable can transfer data, the only way to find out is to test it with another Android device.

If you are not using the original HP charger anything can be wrong with the other cable you are using.

Question:

How is the Linux live CD loaded? Virtual or on USB boot drive?
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
It's being loaded through USB. I updated images of error message I was receiving on windows when attempting to load files. https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=83965829&postcount=772
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I saw those windows screenshots, very helpful.

Are you using the original HP charger cable?

If not, then the cable you are using needs to be tested on another Android device and transfer data.

Is the only way to find out.
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
Since I purchased this in 2011 during the famous fire sale, I can't say u still have the original cable. But all of the cables I'm using transfer data with other devices, the issues is only with HP Touchpad, and as mentioned in the past everything was working fine until I flashed the battery Flash_A6_Firmware a second time and wipe all.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Wipe_All and the battery A6 firmware does not make any changes to the bootie.

Once the tablet is place on the Recovery mode ( usb symbol ) is in direct communication with the novacom driver and nothing else.

You can try the Debrick, for that the tablet can not be place in the ( recovery mode ).

The screen needs to be off completely.

Connect Tablet to PC ( Linux Live CD )

Tablet will turn on ( select shutdown from the moboot menu )

When is off and connected to PC

Click on the debrick icon of your model and select run from terminal.

Then press Power + volumen UP + Home ( at same time ) the PC screen will let you know when to release the keys.
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
You mean Power + VolumeDown + Home right? And yes trying it now and still no luck. All I keep getting g is this on the terminal.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The volume key closer to home ( correction Down )

All those three press at the same time will reset the Tablet. Nothing should be display on the screen.

Is there anything on the screen on the Tablet when you are getting the message?
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
No, nothing else. The screen on the tablet remains blank. I held Power + VolumeDown+ Home for 30 sec then released. Also tried holding them longer, until the "QDL mode not found" error appeared, and no luck.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Well you have tried all possible ( software ) solutions, but there is no DATA communication and as Windows shows there are errors.

The next step will be to replace the USB connector board, which is this one:

https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board+Replacement/6077

How comfortable are you opening the tablet and replacing the part?

It is very easy to remove and there is no others that is on the way.

I have one from a Tablet that the touch screen does not work. If you want it I can send it to you.
[TouchPad General] Jharm:
I agree 100%. It must be a faulty USB Connector. I have experience replacing parts on tablets and phones, no problem at all. You're too kind to offer a spare USB connector, thank you. I'll DM you.
[TouchPad General] beerninja:
Does anyone know if it is possible to dual boot 7.1.2 and 9? 9 runs smoother and doesn't have the double key input problem on the kkeyboard like 7.1.2 has but I still want 7.1.2 for netflix
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Evervolv 7.1.2 if flash using the files from this guide does not have any key input problem, also it should run as smooth as 9 if using the same CPU frequency. The WiFi connection on 7.1.2 is solid and stable, overall is the best ROM as everything works.

Technically, yes it is possible to do Dual boot or even all Android ROMs flash on the Tablet.

But each ROM will have to be reconfigure to use a different system-partition as all of them use the same cm-system from the beginning.

The Tablet can have 4 boot options, WebOS, Android, LuneOS and SailFish OS as each OS uses a different system partition.

Take a look at this guide:

https://xdaforums.com/t/the-most-powerful-feature-of-the-hp-touchpad-lvm.3889068/

It will be best to set up 7.1.2 properly and later on when Google discontinue 7 then move to 9.
[TouchPad General] beerninja:
Thanks but unfortunnately I sstill get the double key input problem as you can see from me typing this post on 7.1.2. I'm using thhe full wipe 1gb swap zip, the 7.1.2 rom you linked, the touchpad max zip 1782mhz you made for 7.1.2, pico gapps from decemmberr 23rd, and supersu

Editt - i'm using flintman 7.1.2 not invisibllek because invisiblek can't be rooted
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Thanks for posting the issue, I am aware of double key input, it used to happened with different settings. I use two Tablet with Evervolv 7.1.2 and do not experience double key input.

Question:

Is there any kernel optimization or any other App to tweak any system settings?

All listed ROMs on this guide have System Read and Write enabled which means it can be permanent rooted. The functionality is changed in the RAM disk provided in all of the HpTp_ flash flies:

Also all ROMs have the same optimized settings to perform at maximum performance, even using the full 1GB of RAM.
[TouchPad General] beerninja:
I just tried invisblek's 7.1.2 again and no double key input so far and I tried that lineage "addonsu" zip file from the OP post of the invisblek thread by roland deschain and root worked this time after I enabled it in dev settings! Gonna stick with this rom then.

I had no other system tweaking apps on flintman's 7.1.2 other than your maxXtreme zip that I flashed for it.

thanks again
[TouchPad General] sachinxda1:
Hello,

I flashed my HP touchpad with Android 9 roms, Evervolv, DU, Tenderloin, all gave me very sluggish performance.

I create partitions as per the video,

What could be work.

pls help
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
There are many different ways or guides to flash any ROM onto the Tablet.

To better help you, please provide:

Names of the *.zip files in the same order that was flashed using TWRP 3.2.

What is the video that was used as a reference to create the partitions?
[TouchPad General] Gborg3:
Minimal GApps or no GApps, minimal number of apps on TouchPad, higher kernel speed and if necessary use a previous Android version rom as Android 9 is more challenging for the hardware. Android 7.1.2 may help. If none of this helps enough, find a tablet that is not ~10 years old and instead go for a newer device.
[TouchPad General] sachinxda1:
Hi

I used the install android 9 video. Android 9.0 Pie on the HP TouchPad - YouTube followed the steps.

and then I used ev_tenderloin-9-userbuild-2019.04.24 , FLINTMAN-TWRP-3.2.1-0-03-15-2018.

I repeated all the steps and used above files, matched the volume partition spaces as per the video.

Now there is new issue - Android keyboard process - ASOP is failing. and there is no keyboard.
[TouchPad General] Gborg3:
I forgot about when that happened to me and putting a Gboard apk on the TouchPad so it could be installed and AOSP keyboard can be disabled. That is all that is needed.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The process that you are following to flash Android is not from this guide but from another user.

You are entitled to use the Tablet in any way and follow any instructions, but you must post issues with the process on the guide you are following. All the files posted on this guide and instructions works with no issues even the keyboard ASOP error was manually fixed in all the *.zip files.
[TouchPad General] yeahman45:
thx for your work! I have installed Evervolv 7.1.2 with max frequency and it does seem snappier!