yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Billun:
Yes with wm5, but have you tried it with wm6?

Then it is about the same (so why upgrade to kaiser?).

I am not up to date but can you dope the wizard with wm6.1?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zarch:
There is an update on allaboutphones.nl but it is hidden in a special about the Touch Diamond. touch diamond special

I've translated it here:

This question was asked at Mark Moons, country manager from HTC benelux.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] johnny13oi:
From that I am guessing just a Rom update that most here have anyways and no drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Ronnymes:
I hope that they included the same layout and internet browser as the Diamond.

http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2594 ( it's Dutch but check out the movies ;) )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
i don't understand why some guys you are so negative in such news:confused:

is it so impossible to that happends??

the only thing that you manage is to fill the thread with rubbish...........

the kaiser/touch cruise owners are coming in thread to inform for any good news...not to reading inconveniently answers from annoying users ....

sory... but so i feel any time i get a new email confirmation in rellative threads and i read (such yours my friend ) these posts.....:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xtop:
that quote makes it sound like its just being updated to 6.1, that'll be a shame if thats all they're doing
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] johnny13oi:
Dude calm down, I was just saying that from that translation, it appears that what they meant was an update to Windows 6.1 and not drivers. I appreciate the information and all but I was just saying that that is what I am getting from that translation. I mean the thread title stated about the drivers so we are just here to talk about that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
but does anyone have a clue when they are coming with the update? is it in a week, or a month or a few months??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] edbutler:
Did I touch a nerve or what!!

I didn't mean to insult anyone, I was just pointing out how angry some people get about their Tytn II/Tilt's . these phones are the most configurable, customizable phone/pda's on the market today. and they should not be so hostile towards HTC as if this company has cheated you out of something. For the guy that uses the camera for work, come on, this is not a camera you would use to do professional work. surfing the internet on a PDA is a secondary choice at best and you can use opera mini with no lag time or scrolling issues on this device. I have a Tilt running 6.0 Schaps 4.31 I have Tom Tom and use it on a daily basis with no problems I am not concerned with it not alerting me to a turn 2 seconds later then an HP device as long as I am alerted to turn before I have to turn which it does without any problems. Anyway sorry if I offended you, your frank criticisms are greatly unappreciated,

Ed...:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
A quote from the page (From Daano, the guy who made the review)...

Translated:

So I guess it's really coming :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
""I can confirm that we will release an rom-update for the tytn2 this month, which will solve most problems. It will be an 6.1 update which will bring the tytn2 totally up to date""

maby you are wright but maby not ;)

i want to see the glass half-full and not half-empty :)

isn't something official?

i prefer just to wait and see it with my own eyes and then i'll talk :)

friendly Dimitris:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xtop:
i really hope so :fingerscrossed:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mchapman007:
It must be true......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
You forgot the yellow ribbon...

For me it's still a crime scene...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Humz:
*excited* :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Infuruno:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/htcs-thriller-in-manilla/

Totally up to date ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
so what??

look and here for more images :rolleyes:

http://images.google.com/images?hl=el&q=htcs-thriller&btnG=Αναζήτηση+εικόνων&gbv=2
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Infuruno:
My point was would we expect to see that interface?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
of course i understand what you meaned with this link :)

but i have to amuse a little on this thing that happens with htc drivers...

i'm tired whaiting and at this moment,this anouncment, is the only (seems like) serious,in last months...

so ..be patience for some days more and all of us will see what is true or not;)

friendly Dimitris:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Humz:
Hi. I dont suppose any1 knows if i'd be able to use these (when released) on my o2 xda stellar. Yesterday i successfully flashed my ROM to 3.0 Sleuth WWE and thats all i've ever done to it so i'm clearly no expert (i'm actually a n00blet). Thank you in advance :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] steved_np3:
xda stellar

Hi I have the same question as I too have an xda stellar with no custom rom installed, just the deflaut setup from O2. Will I be able to install the rom update from HTC without any problems. The reason I ask is that O2 is hopeless with suppling updates and I doubt very much they will even release an update for the stellar

Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FloatingFatMan:
Well, you'll have to HardSPL first, and maybe wait for the cooks to rip this possible ROM apart, and also invalidate your warranty; but yes, you should be able to.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FJAS0612:
I need it

Where find it??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
go download and install radio 17.10
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FloatingFatMan:
Try reading the bloody thread yeah? It's not out yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FloatingFatMan:
Now that's just mean! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dust2Dust:
This is crossing some borders IMHO.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
yeah maybe but when you've got one post at the end of a thread and you are too lazy to read even the last few posts to get your answer... maybe he'll figure out reading a lil bit before posting is a good idea.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikeeey:
lol i agree
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Yana:
Don't dream again.

http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=15668

http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=46638

see X7510 and diamond on HTC web site, HTC say both with Graphic chip or processor.

Qualcomm® MSM7200's TYTNII ? SORRY, NO!

Many guy & me want TYTNII with better video performance, but no any Video accelerator on device.

May be have a improved graphics driver coming, but i don't think performance have a big step on this poor video chip.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Snirpo:
Wth are you trying to say man!?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
Please wake up dude, MSM7200 has a video accelerator on board, but it isn't active (because they didn't pay for a driver). Since the driver isn't out yet, why should they say on there website that it has a graphic chip.

From what I've heard on the site, they have bought the driver (finally). I'm still hoping for the best, but from what I read, it's really coming.

A little optimism please :P I'm hoping for the best! (even if it's hard to believe).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fisha21:
Not sure what Yana is getting at but the following info is taken from the Diamond product sheet:

Vibrant TouchFLO 3D user interface, responding perfectly to your finger gestures when scrolling through contacts, browsing the web, and launching media… all vividly displayed as photos and artwork powered by the 3D graphics processor.

I don't think HTC could claim not to have promised 3D accel with the Diamond! Of course, the Diamond has a different processor....

EDIT: Sorry, understand Yana's point now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikeeey:
Is Yana trying to say that HTC is going to give us drivers for a video accelerator and not for drivers? i dont quite understand..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] The-Kevster:
What he's trying to say is he doesn't believe there is a 3D graphics chip in the TyTN II so if HTC do release and improved graphics driver it will just be improved code to SLIGHTLY speed things up. But without a 3D chip it's not going to be a big improvment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FloatingFatMan:
Well... I'm glad SOMEone could figure out what he was trying to say. He might as well have posting in Yiddish for all the sense it made to me... :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mikeeey:
has anyone seen the diamond interface? it looks awesome! that would be great if our update was the same, but i doubt that..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] KaiserVideoDriver:
so it's been a few weeks now, do you guys think HTC is still going to deliver the updates now?

[trying to throw gasoline into the fire pit :D ]
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] HTCFAN0923:
with no word on the raphael yet, It would be in their best interest to do so. The Diamond doesn't appeal to everyone so having the drivers activated on the Kaiser would help keep the HTC Fans @ bay till the Raphael hits b/c there are a number of us (me included) that will not settle for anything less then Quadband GSM/Tri-Band HSDPA and a sliding keyboard. The Diamond lacks all of these things.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mchapman007:
ZzzzzDriverszzzzzzz

Please wake me when this is really out!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jirakhom:
Sure. you may have to sleep until you forget you are sleeping.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
Well again a quote: (Source)

Translated:

I hope you can read a calendar, but it's the 14th today... So 17 days left to bring us the long waited ROM update.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] KaiserVideoDriver:
Thanks for the reminder :)

Will start counting down now, hehe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aonanodad:
HTC NEEDS Video Driver for TyTN II

With the 3G IPhone not coming out for another 5 weeks and the recent price drops on the Tilt, HTC could be selling a HUGE number of phones in the coming weeks. The biggest hurdle HTC has is with the question of support, given that they have not provided drivers for the hardware built into the PDA phones they have in the field. They mistakenly see the PDA phone as a disposable item, just like people think of cell phones. But customers increasingly see PDA phones as their mobile office and are nervous about the thought of switching to a new model every year - even IF they are willing to spend the money. Instead of taking advantage of the lull in IPhone sales during the IPhone model transition, HTC could end up losing market share because of their lack of support for the TyTN II.

The frequent update of the firmware on the IPhone, the improved software to sync the IPhone with email, and the release of the IPhone SDK to developers has made the IPhone more attractive to PDA phone users. With the upcoming release of the IPhone with 3G and GPS, Apple stands to dominate HTC's (and Blackberry's) market.

The release of WM 6.1 with 3D drivers on the TyTN II would go a long way toward stopping some of the market share hemoraging HTC is headed toward while waiting for WM 7 to be released later this year. The TyTN II/Tilt has had the best press reviews of any phone HTC has released, and it is HTC's flagship product until the Diamond becomes available. Given that HTC has had to purchase the 3D drivers to use in the Diamond, it would make a lot of sense to release those drivers in an imminent WM 6.1 release as soon as possible. That would be the best marketing decision HTC could make right now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] richabi:
Wow. What a freaking relief! Or at least it will be when the ice thaws off our "high-tech" phones. It's that feeling you get when you finally can release a piss you have been holding for hours (in our case, months!).

Welp, guess we gotta hold our crotches for a couple more days but when it's (the update, sicko) released, it will be a "shot heard around the world" or something like that, right?

:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Menalitus:
A couple of weeks ago I negotiated an upgrade from my N73, a v1615 for free on my £25 vodafone uk tariff (if I extend my contract). They told me at that point though that they had no 1615s in stock and wouldn't until the end of May :mad:.

After doing dome research I came accross this and a few other threads talking about a rom update and possible fixes to the reported graphic issues. I am hoping that the delay is so that the updated devices can be stocked.

I am really frustrated I can't get my new toy :( and have considered trying a vodafone shop to try and get one sooner, it would help if either HTC or one of the rebranders could make a proper statement instead of keeping quiet, at least then I would know if I am better off waiting in the hope that the device comes with the latest rom etc already installed.

As an aside, I assume that he 1615 is the best choice of device if I want a touchscreen pda/phone with a keyboard, if not and anyone has any (sensible) suggestions of an alternative I would appreciate it. :D (Sorry about the question, I know its off topic but I am assuming you guys know your stuff)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rikgarner:
@Menalitus

Word on the rumor mill is that the updated rom will only be for HTC "unbranded" devices - i.e. they won't be in any hurry to release a version for Vodafone for you.

The good news is that you can unlock and cross-flash your 1615 with the updated rom when (if) this materializes, but the bad news is that you'll obviously be voiding your warranty by doing so, but I'm guessing by the fact that your visiting XDA-devs that this might not be such a big issue for you (hey - my Orange TytnII had the original rom on it for ooh... about 10 minutes while I carried it home!)

Even without the drivers, its a cracking little device, and the best phone I'v ever had.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Menalitus:
Thanks for the info rik, I have heard from various sources that the v1615 will be getting the windows 6.1 update so as the lack of stock seems to have coincided with the talk of an upgrade I'm hopeful that they may be getting a shipment of updated devices. Regarding the warranty you're right that I don't give a stuff about that although I most likely won't change it unless the update is worth the effort.

I am really looking forward to getting away from OS60 which in my opinion is a bit ****e. I've had symbian o/s nokia's since my 7650 and am sick of the crashes and poor performance and fancy a change (Yes I know windows crashes too :p). I've been lusting after a PDA for years but have never really been unable to justify the £200 cost however as Voda are gonna give me a free one it seems like a no-brainer.

Glad you agree that the tytn is the way to go.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Bardia Garsha:
Yes bro, I can assure you that even the very guys who quite rightfully put http://www.htcclassaction.org/ in action are carrying TyTN_II/Tilt in their pockets.

TyTN_II/Tilt surely sucks when it comes to cammera/video (compare it to N95 in this respect and the Tilt becomes a joke), but the guy who uses a TyTN_II is not riding in the same wagon with the kids playing N-Game on their N95s and taking pictures of any moving or inanimate object in the universe:D

Be assured that in the kingdom of business and PDA, TyTN_II/Tilt is no doubt the king.

Even without the infamous 2D/3D/Direct Draw drivers, the device is extremely addictive and %99 of its owners are not gonna change it with anything:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Andy_S:
talking about camera - I'm affraid, that opposite to my finding of that hold_shutter-poweroff-poweron trick with camera it WON'T be possible to fix that lowFPS issue with software patch of any kind (unless we get low quality photos)!

On what base i'm posting this? Try browsing your registry to this key:

HKLM\Software\Drivers\Camera

You will find there two keys: Q7500CIFDevice and Q7500CIFCommon

For those who doesn't know, CIF is cheaper and takes way too lower quality shots than CCD technology, which is used in most cameras (OK, CMOS has a great deal in past few years, but that is profi-photo, right?)

Well, I'm not 100% sure of this, but proove me wrong (please do so, i'll be very happy :) ). I'm affraid, that you'll cannot :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Shakini:
Just to add to all the speculation...

I took delivery of a v1615 just before this thread went live and was thinking about flashing to the stock HTC Rom...

After reading the thread, and a few threads made on the actual Vodafone UK forum site, I called Voda back stating how disappointed I was that nobody informed me of an updated version of the device.

The lady on the phone told me that the current device was due to be replaced by a new batch on the 6th June and offered to take my device back if I was prepared to wait until then.

I've since sent it back and await what new treasures the 'June' release will hold. I'm guessing it won't be a major update though. (she wasn't able to offer any information about the 'June' release)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Menalitus:
The plot thickens...:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twistkill:
the plot always ****ing thickens!

esp. when it comes down to kaiser drivers
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Menalitus:
Just spoke to vodafone.

They insisted that no new software update was on the way for the v1615 and that they do have it in stock after all. I was so confused I though sod it and ordered one.

It was free on my existing £25 inc vat tarrif with 1 month free internet after which internet is £7.50 inc vat. I had to sign up for another 18 months but that is fine.

If the software is updated I will just have to do the update myself. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
ha

i will eat my new shoes if HTC will release the real drivers this month. :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] p.loong:
:D You are funny man :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rikgarner:
@peto01 - will that be boiled or fried sir?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
I demand video proof.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] daedric:
Will record with kaiser :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Isaygarcia:
Upload it to youtube and show how you eat your new shoes!! :)!!

"Faith"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] gingerbanana:
buddy ..where you get your ROM ... i am still using the 1.81.707.0 WWE version ..:)

BTW , i don't really trust the HTC will release the New ROM in this month ..not even next month ...:mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rterblanche:
I will be more impressed if it's you old shoes. Might have a little bit more flavour.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
just called the HTC hotline, and their saying it's not confirmed for Europe, only for America that the AT&T devices are getting an upgrade.

does anyone have information about europe?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
i have new shoes. i bought them one week ago
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] peto01:
see...no update with sucking drivers are going to release. :):D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Imperium:
If they dont release the drivers then HTC is writing their own demise.

First off the kaiser is build with crappy material, for example: The tilt hinge wears out pretty fast, the hardkey pad has lots of clearance/gap, even the sliding meganism is weak!

Dont get me wrong though, the phone rocks! But im dissapointed in the quality of the support, make, materials, and in HTC itself.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Pronabesh:
Does anyone have this issue? This can affect in gaming... Like when I am using 4 finger claw in pubg. All most every time, i cant move my camera.

If anyone want to check this issue, download touch screen test app.. When u input 2 finger, the touch is solid...but when 3rd input comes... Its like fading away. Its like i am not touching it at all.

Anyone have any fix?? This is so problematic.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Pronabesh:
Please someone help....
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Rawwr:
i use claw method as well, and i can confirm that this issue doesnt happen to me.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] joetong:
Is it three finger screen capture problem it?
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] frank461:
Hi there my friend.

I have the same problem with my POCO. In my previous cell phone, I played PUBG with triggers, but in this cell I can not move, aim and shoot at the same time. I think it's because of the same problem as the toch.

I did the same test with the program and there if you recognize all the touches of the screen in the same way.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Pronabesh:
Yeah u can see after 2 inputs on same times, third or fourth are fading away. Its really so annoying. Dont know how to fix
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Pronabesh:
Can u test it with touch screen test app?? Try to put 3 finger same time and swipe...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Rawwr:
working fine bro :)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Pronabesh:
Give me some proof...
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Rawwr:
i dont need to show you proofs or anything, you asked something i tested and replied.

if you dont want to trust it, it's okay.

since it's your device that is having issues, i'm just gonna leave it upto you.
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] topbasework:
For me is become like this.3 finger swipeView attachment 4726209
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] sd24sep:
It's either ROM/kernel issue, mine was working perfectly with triggers in AICP but broke in MSM-Xtended, didn't work in most of the custom kernel, but it's working on canting kernel (if you okay to test yourself)
[Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers] Pronabesh:
Whoa..ok... Btw i am using stable global miui. Also one of my frnd has same problem..and he is also using stable like me. Lets see what happens after changing rom
[Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers] pichai:
SM-N9600 （Galaxy Note 9）

SM-N960F （Galaxy Note 9）

SM-N960U （Galaxy Note 9）

SM-N960N （Galaxy Note 9）.......With so many versions, I bought a SM-N960N at a low price on ebay. It is a Korean carrier version. Can I brush it into the SM-N960F Taiwan version?
[Razer Phone 2 Questions & Answers] Gamesoul Master:
To those who have updated to Android 9.0, have you seen any improvements/fixes specific to the RP2? I know many of us have noted issues with the speakers (notably at lower volumes) and the camera software (mostly fixed by using Gcam), although there's been other more isolated/random issues for some too (Bluetooth, cellular signal, etc).