yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] adewidt:
A few minutes ago I posted a reaction in the HTC ClassAction thread that we (AllAboutPhones.nl) received almost the same information two weeks ago.

Our well informed source asked us to wait with publishing this information after the release of the HTC Daimond.

I am almost sure that our source is a different source then the source MSMobiles has.

This gives me some hope it is true.

Our article (in Dutch):

http://allaboutphones.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2585

Short summary:

HTC bought the graphic licenses for the HTC TytnII. The new ROM will be released end of this month. It is unknown if these drivers are also coming for other HTC devices.

Please remember it is not confirmed by HTC yet!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
Concerning overall mobile experience my best bet was Android. Now... i don't know, maybe we'll have the WM drivers and have a choice between 2 reasonable OSs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pinx:
Well, let's wait and we'll see what will happen.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] svcglobal:
Two different sources saying exactly the same thing can lead us to start believe in this story. Crossed fingers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] McHale:
With the "leaked" HTC TyTN II ROM from a few days ago, we may have already seen it.

I have no doubt we'll see a new ROM for the Kaiser. But I highly doubt the video fix will be the right one. They even stated a couple months ago it would be a hack.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Electronic Punk:
Which leaked rom ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Shinare:
Just asking generally, not you specifically. But is there going to be a ROM that incorporates these fixes that can work with Radio 1.27.14.09 on my tilt? (yes I am terribly noob at all this)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twistkill:
waiting till eternity as usually....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] met3ora:
Because everybody owes it to you, right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dcd1182:
thank you for the info. lucky for me im just trying to achieve the 2d driver the NLD rom has, ill leave you guys alone to work on gl :) i'll start with those files and see...thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] conceptcar3:
drivers at last!!!!!!!!! I too would like to email dutty lol :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
Noooo one should email dutty unless they have some useful information... I'm sure he knows exactly what you know and then some and he's more anxious to put a rom out than you are to install it so just relax and let the master work. Would you rather he read your email asking him when the new rom would be ready or that he spend that time working on the ROM?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] conceptcar3:
only kidding, I wouldn't really want to email Dutty, I'm sure he knows everything we know + much more. I am just eager to get my hands on this rom haha....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] twistkill:
huh?! what do you mean? owe it to me? why would anybody owe it to me?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rohanmaini:
Most probably not as 1.27.14.09 doesn't work with WM6.1

The chef might include a compatible radio. if not there are lots of wm6.1 radios all over the forum... you can upgrade to the one you like best
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] spaanplaat:
I'm using the NLD rom since yesterday. And I have to say that I'm not inpressed. It seems the overal performance has increased a little bit but surely I hope this is not long awaited update. When you slide-out the keyboard it still takes about 2 secs before the screen is responding. The only thing I noticed is the screen then rotates allmost instant compared to the laggy rebuilding of the screen we experienced in other roms before.

So you say the drivers are there only not fully activated??? Seems like another dirty trick by HTC then.

At least I believe we come closer to finding the solution to our problem every day.

Keep up the good work !!!

D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] esselite:
I guess so too. Maybe they do this on purpose to give better performance from old models (to shut the claiming) but not give full capabilities, to make new models be much better.

In overall HTC wants us to buy they new devices, so this is theory is explainable.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] spaanplaat:
But still I hope someone can fix the issue. Many pro's are currently braincracking themselves. Only time will tell.... but for how much longer :eek:???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
Plus, we still haven't seen the official HTC update... We are only speculating that it will offer 2d drivers, and only for a couple of things. I still don't know where the leaked versions came from, but maybe it just are beta versions of what is really coming.

Although it looks promising... It are the first signs of a real working driver :D Hopefully HTC will give us what we are waiting for :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vj4:
surely haveing these drivers is a good start and will help people who are trying to make there own tho right? its much easyer to build a house once u got the foundations for it aint it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] YYYYY:
Dont know if somebody already post it but modaco released the official WWE Rom look here

http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...he-htc-kaiser-6-1-performance-update-is-here/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mugglesquop:
cheers, Downloading now, will give it a go. :cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Imperium:
I attached some Diamond drivers i found in a thread (thx to Chainfire)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mjg1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=393535

doesn't sound particularly positive.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Imperium:
Its the same as the one on this forum posted 2 days ago, and its crap.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
There are many bugs in this version

In landscape mode text in menus and some programs is not drawn if you have cleartype enabled.

HTC home, camera and other utilities have not been updated to latest versions

Skype does not work

Also landscape switch takes 2 minutes... Have seen that faster... Looks like it isn't the official HTC update (hopefully)

Still hope for the best :)

Dutch version is looking better... and has some 2d acceleration.

(Waiting for the "You see, HTC sucks" comments... while HTC still didn't official released anything)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
What if it's controlled leak? And now we are all beta testers and HTC is watching that thread :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vcespon:
That would be GOOD, at least they will know what BUGS there are on the ROM before announcing it as the solution to all problems.

I don't want a official ROM that has obvious bugs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
Anyway, I'd like to believe in that scenario.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] private69:
I ve found the solution

Hello,

I finally found the solution for my KAISER, i'm selling it on sunday then i'll get rie of my beloved uselesss kaiser !!!

@+++
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] spaanplaat:
If that's the case everyone should complain big time!!

Id would be a shame for HTC if the 'leaked rom' is really the 'fix'.

I found a small issue with the NLD rom. I love to listen music. I have a jabra bt620s to listen while I go to work and a Altec Lansing Soundblade when I'm @ the park. But with the standard BT settings I found the music shoppy. But with a few tweaks it's gone.

Also the landscape cleartype issue is there.

GPS works fine (first wm6.1 rom which works) Fix within 1 min.

Camera seems fine.

When I get home I will check wifi.

Overall conclusion; This 'shipped' rom is an improvement but I think there's alot to be looked at.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Devtone:
Looks like crap to me :mad: at least no shoe eating for me :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
pardon me, but if they're watching this, wouldn't they start with the driver already from ages ago?

since I wont buy anymore of non after sales service...

but stick to the "wait for the driver for a month mode already..."

:confused::confused::confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
I didn't real follow this thread because I was away for a few days, but when I all read it back it seames that the official rom from HTC leaked, and people are now testing it. But I don't understand what the results are, because with the NLD rom people seem to fine with it, but the EN/US rom not?

I have a kaiser with NLD rom (Ithink..) but is it recommendable to install this rom now, or should I wait untill HTC releases the final?

And why doens't HTC search on the forums? They should have internet too, right? If they searched forum's etc. they would know what the problems were. You just need one man, 1 month, it's maybe 3000 euro salary (when he has a good salary ;) ) but it would save a lot of troubles.

Who can tell me now what to do, should I install it to make my kaiser faster or wait till the final? What are your experiences?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] defp:
I have the dutch version installed. It works fine, better than the original rom better than no thrills v3. Fastest GPS I've seen yet.

If you're satisfied with the original release rom, stick with it. Otherwise flash this rom, but i don't know if you need to hardspl so you should check that first, because then your warranty becomes complicated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
but with the final original rom that htc should bring out later this month, do you need to hardspl with that??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyotaku:
from wmexperts.com......

HTC Kaiser 6.1 Update Official Any Day Now

By Dieter Bohn

May 21, 2008 8:54 AM

File under Articles , Rumors

A Windows Mobile 6.1 update for the HTC TYTN II / Kaiser will be officially available any day now (likely by the end of the week). So says Paul of MoDaCo, adding:

The update is for HTC TyTN II devices, and will be followed later by a AT&T branded update. The update adds Windows Mobile 6.1 with improvements such as the 'Getting Started' wizard, Threaded SMS and general performance and battery life updates, as well as HTC's 'video performance' update. So what's it like? Performance IS improved, however with no real video acceleration, don't get your hopes up TOO much!

...So it looks like our fears last week that the update would never be seen on the Tilt were unfounded. We're happy to hear that the update is 'improved' and though we understand (and partially agree with) the decision not to try to develop better video drivers, the lack of them here still stings, just a little.

(Oh, right: following that MoDaCo link will start you on a path towards hunting the leaked version of said ROM, which is indeed out on the internets as of this moment.)

so i think the lastest leaked roms r our update...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] neilson:
What about the Graphics Files also leaked from the Diamond?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2217896&postcount=1004
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
i have the same feeling marty .. but wait and we shall see :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyotaku:
from www.modaco.com

Not from HTC (as yet), but in the next couple of days the file 'RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe' that you can find here will also become available via official channels!

The update is for HTC TyTN II devices, and will be followed later by a AT&T branded update. The update adds Windows Mobile 6.1 with improvements such as the 'Getting Started' wizard, Threaded SMS and general performance and battery life updates, as well as HTC's 'video performance' update. So what's it like? Performance IS improved, however with no real video acceleration, don't get your hopes up TOO much! Thanks to tweaks in 6.1 in general plus HTC's optimisations, the device DOES feel a lot slicker in use, although if you are coming from a 'cooked' ROM you have probably seen the speed improvement already. If you are still on the standard 6.0 ROM, you NEED to install this

I've included some screenshots and version information below... enjoy

so i guess our update is here allready and only slightly improved video performance.....oh well diamond here i come
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] neilson:
One more time, What about the Graphics Files also leaked from the Diamond?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2217896&postcount=1004
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
ASSssssss!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] martyotaku:
dude thats just the hard work of all the great people here on xda.....htc wants us to buy new devices ....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lipa47:
That is best true I'm afraid.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] McHale:
NO way...

Samsung SGH-i900 if I decide to go wtih a PDA without a keyboard. The Diamond has too many shortcomings and I don't like rewarding a company for deliberately screwing me.

3.5G HSDPA connectivity

Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro OS

3.5″ 240×400px, 262K color TFT touchscreen display

5 megapixel autofocus camera

front camera for video calls

Built-in GPS

FM Radio

TV-Out

16GB of built-in memory

microSDHC memory card slot (up to 8GB)

Bluetooth 2.2, A2DP

Wi-Fi b/g

1500mAh battery

Dimensions: 112×56×13mm

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
guys i said that again:cool:

if no drivers update...............no more any HTC devices for me:(

there are lot of good devices coming in 2008;)

look at www.pdadb.net and check upcoming or new models

and (for example) one of them

http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1128&view=1

what reason for,i must by again an htc device after that cheat of them to their customers??????????????

sory but .....screw HTC !!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
I'll miss the forum though.... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Shinare:
This noob has huge faith that one of the smart people here will be able to do something. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Satish Kumar:
Lot of applications like Skype and other crash on this ROM version
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Magic_Knight:
Not from me.

My TyTN II will be the last mobile from HTC.

They have cheated me once... they won't do it twice.

If everybody would act like me they would learn how to take care of their customers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
RESPECT to anybody keeps this opinion ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DTheTank:
I love the look of this device! :)

http://www.sonyericsson.com/x1/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MB300E:
Looks nice but its HTC that have built it for them so i would think more then one time before buying it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vcespon:
It's dull and the buttons look like a those of a fake $10 chinese toy, mainly being a Sony. TyTN has better looks.

Also, I'll wait for a WM7 device. And one that has something new, TyTN II already has 3G, GPS, WiFi, bluetooth, autofocus camera... I'm not going to spend another $900 on a device that has almost the same specifications.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
Ready to leave mode

I hate reading this but THAT is what I feel n will be my always reasonable reason to hold buying new products until it's safe with the driver

note: so if you buy latest ATI VGA for your PC, at least u check whether they include the driver or not in the package!!!!:mad: otherwise its just an old x486 compatible device:eek:

ready to leave HTC if no driver exist mode = ON
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Why would anyone buy something else than a 3G iPhone ?

The 1st generation iPhone was a challenger to the Kaiser when the time came for me to make a decision.

I kicked it out because of its lack of GPS (mandatory for me) and not "officially" opened to third party solutions.

If I'm correct about what i've read here and there about the 3G iphone, everything stated above will be adressed, and I won't miss my Kaiser.

Sure I will miss XDA.

If HTC doesn't release proper drivers, Jobs will get more money. And I don't think I will the only one doing this.

HTC+WinMo is a combination that pisses me off. WinMo alone pisses me off. Vista also.

Yeah I'm angry.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kw31:
if the "leaked rom" is officially the thing they're addressing as the "solution" to the video problem, seriously this is gonna be the last device from HTC I'll be using

shame on them :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
because I dont like the iphone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] trublu:
forgive me but the iphone even with 3g is still garbage to me. Windows Mobile is enough of a reason for me not to switch. the iphone is a toy. that's why i got one for the gf :D:p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] HTCFAN0923:
Why would you even buy a Kaiser if you don't need the sliding keyboard then? For that you should've just gotten a Polaris. Boo Hoo! the video drivers were missing. Don't blame HTC. blame that whole crap on Qualcomm and Broadcomm legal fight from last year. if you're even considering an iPhone it's b/c u don't need the sliding keyboard. For me, Apple will never make a kaiser-like form factor...hence why I shall always stay on HTC
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
truth to that friend ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
ok hopefully no more iphone talk... back on track??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] iceman4357:
Update on drivers?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redbandana:
this thread is starting to get stupid and it should be locked by mods. If an official update ever comes with drivers I am positive everyone who owns a kaiser on xda will know within 24hrs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
LOL, this is the first "speculation" thread that seems to never die. Normally, these types of threads die or get "locked" within a day or 2. Not this one. It's like Bebe's kids. "

it dont die, it multiplies

".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] standbackiamcrazy:
24 hours? wooooahhh with xda forum addiction at a critical high, it will be more like 24 minutes, or is that 24 seconds? *refresh, refresh refresh*
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] edgie168:
Somehow I doubt a lot of folks here would get that reference. :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] maati:
It's not important whether it's 24hrs or 24secs. But we know that this ROM will come only for HTC branded devices. So we need these threads to be informed about development for other Kaisers and Polaris, Dual etc.!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DracoLX:
Talking about news....

Hi guys, just to let you know that a "genius" already ported the Diamond rom to our little toys :)

I don't know the magnitude of the porting but it sure sounds promising.

I almost wet myself when i've read it!!!! :rolleyes:

Here's the link:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2219772&postcount=244

Cheers,

Draco
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
interesting....

from the looks of the diamond videos on youtube... it looks like it requires quite a bit of graphic accelleration just to run the homescreen... hopefully it's smooth on our kaisers without the drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
Ouch. I just told my age didnt I?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
can't make clear if it's including the driver or not... Because there are already ROM's made from the diamond, so if it's only a ROM, it's nothing new...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DracoLX:
Really? For Kaiser? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] littlerain:
Where is the rom ? can u share the link ?:confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] volcomnator999:
.....its not out yet....didnt you read
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ericmcintire:
ok pal... link me to a rom I can put on my kaiser that uses the diamond interface.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] littlerain:
You didn't read what dubbeld00 said : "Because there are already ROM's made from the diamond" so i asked him for the link
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] empi00:
maybe for Ploaris?

i think they are in the Polaris upgrading Forum

like: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=392993&page=1

greetings

empi
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] volcomnator999:
from what i know there are no roms for the kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] DracoLX:
Sorry mate.... but are we in the Kaiser forum or the Polaris one? :confused:

I already knew that! ;) But for Kaiser it's the first one.

So... we have the Diamond rom ported, we have the "official" HTC_NLD_3.29.404.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16. 25_Ship rom with DBB BitBlt rendering improvisation. I guess we just have to wait a little longer and trust in the "gods" of XDA.

The only thing that's missing is HTC leak a true Kaiser rom with hardware acceleration (hope they're not reading this.... or hope they are :rolleyes: ). Ok i'm dreaming on this one!!! :D

Draco
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
LOL (links are polaris only)

Here

Here

"Because there are already ROM's made from the diamond, so if it's only a ROM, it's nothing new..."

it's nothing new to me... are you happy now ;)

Didn't knew it wasn't there for kaiser yet, normally everything is a rip off from the kaiser and will be ported to the polaris.

I'm running a Diamond ROM for 4 days now, it's fast, but the versions above don't include a video driver, so still bad performance when it comes to video. And I know we aren't in a Polaris thread, we are in the "i want video acceleration" thread, the point that I was trying to make is that I couldn't make clear if that ROM I mentioned before does include video acceleration.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
leos got the diamond rom ported to kaiser and will be releasing it tonight :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] edgie168:
I was still in high school when that came out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Rayan:
Yeah... And Leo said very clear that he got it running on his Kaiser with "very fast" performance!

Let's just wait and see ok?

Remember guys and gals... Patience is a virtue!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] swtaltima:
I just saw this as well. Just curious, is this the diamond rom? Like the videos I have seen of it on the net? If it is I think I will be very pleased with my tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Do it now!! :D

Good luck to Leo.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
i believe so .. but we'll just have to wait for the master to release :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rkub:
lol, P1, I loved that movie... I might actually have to go watch that again... I was actually in college when that came out... Feeling old now...:(