[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Timaustin2000:
See you're just showing a ridiculous anti-sony bias in your comments now. I'm not talking sales when it comes to Samsung, I'm talking about this farcical idea that Samsungs camera's are good.

They. Aren't.

Lots of people like what they produce - that doesn't make them right any more than people buying Grey are a good metric of the quality of EL James' storytelling. On all measurable metrics bar DR, the X1 IS the better camera. You're not giving any arguement against that.

DR is better on the Samsung but cameras are not JUST DR. Detail preservation, night time fidelity, colour accuracy are all part and parcel and the S10+ DOES loose against the Sony on all of these things! It's NOT as good on these metrics. Just go over to GSMA and look at their images: there's no question at all about it. None.

The reviewer you're citing didn't like the Bokeh. I do. That's not a technical matter, it's a matter of preference. The Bokeh isn't fake - it's a real Bokeh (He's WRONG about that). He doesn't like it - that's HIM.

Can you hear yourself?

The processing on the Sony is lighter than the Samsung and it's a messier image at pixel depth. Have I said otherwise? But so is the Pixel 3s - and pretty much everyone on the planet really rates the Pixel. But it's much worse with noise and artifacts.

A. Cleaner. Image. Is. Not. Always. Preferable.

Samsung's noise reduction does awful things to fine detail. NitPicker doesn't even give a cursory nod to detail preservation.

Take a step away from your bias and try listening to what I'm saying.

And on the matter of "it should be right to begin with" - it IS. We're talking about fine-tuning - a thing Samsung doesn't allow in Automatic mode at all. You can't fine tune the WB on a Samsung at all - and it's 20 times worse than the worst result on the X1. I disagree with his conclusion that the phone darkens low light scenes - because I've not found it to be true at all. Here's an image to demonstrate:

https://flic.kr/p/2gjCgFs

That cup was in complete shadow at night. The actual light available was probably about a 3rd less than you can see. The X1, in automatic, actually brightened the cup considerably without me doing anything. I don't agree with his assessment - I've never found the X1 to darken a scene at night and I've been using it for weeks.

BUT If it did - and that's a big if - you CAN adjust it. Sony give you the opportunity to do so in Automatic - again, the Samsung doesn't. To complain that you can't get a desired result when you can is bias or incompetence.

On the DR matter, I absolutely agree with Sony's choice not to use allways-on HDR - 110%. Concept Creator on Youtube, in his desire to attack the Sony's DR, ended up demonstrating precisely why Sony is right not to use an always-on HDR: some of his shots were BETTER on the Sony vs. the Samsung because it WASN'T on. Samsung doesn't give you any choice on the matter.

My criticism is the same as his: the Toggle for HDR should be in Auto mode, not just in Manual. It's a step too far in the interface.

With respect, you want the Sony to be this failure so you're seeing what you want to see. I OWN the Sony, I KNOW how good it is and so I can see when people simply aren't very good at using it, don't understand how to or deliberately (in Saf's case) go out to make it look bad.

My bias is this: I know it's good because I use it. That makes me a fan. I'm not blind to it's foibles but I'm not going to bow to the opinion of a random Youtuber and a biased commenter on XDA because, with the greatest of respect, you don't know. You're presenting other's opinions because they confirm your bias.

Is it perfect? No. Is it better than your preffered Huawei derivative? No - I've already said so.

Is it demonstrably better than the Samsung Galaxy S10+?

YES.