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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xerxess:
i agree with you, it will better if sony give us option, thats what i hope to be honest. as sony only provide option like this in their beta system. even sony didnt give us option to pick refresh rate in our display only in beta system once again.

but if i put my position to company perspective.. sony maybe think some conditions and user will got bad impression from their product, why? because the normal user let say like my mother dont know there is option to change something, in the end feature active in situations thats not needed.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
Right now I'm with 56% battery left, 4 hrs of SOT. Regular use, web browsing, YouTube...
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
first charge 100% 41% 4 h screen, every full, always display, brightness 80% [emoji769] etc

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
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Traveling by train all 4G brightness at maximum

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] doungmli:
The display is always in 4k, there is a shade for incompatible applications that are in 1080p or 2k. There is an upscale, application that is not native 4k sharpness was much better than s10+ 2k.

Link: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14648/the-sony-xperia-1-review-a-219-take-of-the-world/4
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Upscaling is far less power hungry that native 4k. Of course all the pixels are used, you would have a 15/16 of the screen black else for FHD. But having more pixels doesn't drain more energy, like 2x20W light spot deal the same amount of light than a single 40Wspot for the same power drain.

That is the GPU that ask for far more energy to compute native 4k program than upscaling, that's where hou would lose power if always in native 4k.

Of course it's sharper than S10+, diamond pentile oled are not that sharp compared to rgb lcd, an increase in pixel number help a lot there, difference between 4k and 2k is visible because of this, with RGB

Subpixel matrix it would be harder to spot it.

Where Sony is good here, is with the upscale algorithm, probably what they took from their Bravia TV department.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] doungmli:
that's not the question. If I understand your sentence the display is 1080p by default but the screen is still in 4k and yes the consumption is much greater if the power saving mode in 1080p on samsung would be meaningless. when the upscale it consumes a lot of energy (the calculation in real time, conversion to hdr consumes a lot of energy), moreover it is disabled even in stamina performance mode. 4k screens have always consumed more than lower resolution screens no matter oled technology, tft, lcd ...

why talk about lcd ?s10 + and the x1 utilsie uses oled
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
I talked about LCD because no OLED RGB are still used on smartphone due to their poor durability. I just wanted to talk about Pentlie vs RGB, don't care about oled or LCD. If we had a RGB matrix you would not be able to spot the difference between 2k and 4k on a 6" screen. You only see the difference because the major flaw of the diamond pentile pannel, produced by Samsung and equiping almost all the oled smartphone, is their blurry effect because in fact there are less pixels due to the arrangement of the subpixel. You could say that a pentile 4k is not more crisp than a 2K rgb pannel. Just look at the first FHD oled pentile, they were blurrier than simple HD LCD pannel.

Anyway, that was just to explain why you can see that the Sony is sharper than the Samsung, just because pentile pannel are really blurry by nature. So we gain a lot from the "4k" definition.

Samsung saving mode just render in FHD but still upscale to 2K pannel, because if you just put a FHD image on a QHD pannel, you will have 3/4 of the screen black. You always upscale if you don't want to have black border that take half the screen on each side. The same way when you play a FHD video on vlc on the phone, and you select the zoom "centered", you will have a small video with almost all the screen black due to border. So even you energy saver upscale. And no, upscaling and computing in native is really, really different, any pc gamer can tell you that, because some game propose to render at lower definition to then upscale it to the native screen definition to gain a big boost in performance. If you use it on a high end GPU, it will consume far less energy because it will just don't need power to work at 20% of its capacity.

Why would 4k panel consume more power than 2K? I'm just talking about the panel here. Same size, same brightness, light power is additive, to create the same light power on the two screen, you will consume the same amount of power on the battery, because each pixel on the 4k screen will be 2 time dimmer than the pixel on the 2k screen, for the same overall brightness.

The big difference between 4K and 2K power drain is almost only on the GPU side. And yes you are right, upscaling drain more power than not upscalling, so of course you will need more energy to compute image on a 4k than a 2k. But still, computing 2k image, upscaling it to 4k, need far less energy than computing native 4k content.

Anyway, my first comment was with the information from some review that said so. To be honest, being FHD upscaled or 4k is pretty the same on a 6" screen, and always better than the 2k screen we found anywhere. So that the main point. But battery is still short and being 4k is not an excuse., if you need a phone that last long because of lack of power for a day or two, there are far better options.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] doungmli:
there is a real difference because the oled has the particularity of turning off its pixels. The story with vlc is just a story of ratio. a 16: 9 video will always be the same on a 16: 9 screen regardless of the resolution. here the 1080P mode displays 1080 well but the right ratio. Simply because the consumption increases to power the pixels. Just look at the monitors, screen of the same reference. the fullhd panel will consume a lot less than a 4K slab. the screen is one of the elements that consumes the most energy in computing and it has not changed and this is because the pixels are smaller than to have a resolution equivalent to a screen with a smaller resolution that it will have to consume more energy to provide the same brightness. It is physics, a point of 1 cm of 100 nits will be brighter than a 2.5 mm point of 100 nits, it will in principle 4 points of 100nits to get the same brightness on the same surfaces.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Geez, do you read or just pick some word and make up a comment with it as you wish?

I never compared the power drain of a LCD and a OLED. I compared the sharpness (not power drain, but s h a r p n e s s) of a RGB pannel to a pentile one. RGB pannel you usually find on LCD, and pentile that is now almost every OLED. And again, I just said if it was RGB you wouldn't spot a difference between 2k and 4K.

Yeah, just checked the dumb VLC app on phone can't render a video in a 1:1 scale and always upscale. My bad, I forgot VLC app was not really well done. Anyway, I was not talking about the ratio. if you put a image that does 1000line on a screen that has 4000 line, it will be 3000 black line on top and bottom, the same goes for the side. If a 1080p content goes frome one side to another of a 2k or 4k screen, then it's is upscaled. Just math.

Exactly that's physic, if you gather two spots that consume 20W together, they will make the same amount of light as one of 40W. So if you have 4000 light in the same area that 1000, the 1000 ones will each consume 4 time more power to produce the same amount of light that the 4000 ones. So as I said for the same brightness on the same area, a 4k screen will consume more or less the same than a 2k screen.

If you take 2 monitor of the same size, with somewhat the same technology (here 144Hz, freesync, IPS) you have only 10% power difference here between a 2k and a 4k screen (that is 4 time more pixel):

https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_nitro_xv273k.htm

https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/gigabyte_aorus_ad27qd.htm

and here is a 2k monitor that drain 15% more energy than the 4k, without the 144Hz, nor any adaptative sync: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/achieva_27_ips-zero-g.htm So it only depend of the quality of the pannel, and for monitor, of all the bonus you add in the software, internal chipset etc.

Because physic tell you that to have the same power output between two set of pixel, you will have somewhat the same power input (I never said that the power input = power output)
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] doungmli:
I speak to you of the same reference, you bring me two different models. Two screens of the same resolution and technologies have different consumption from one brand to another. A pixel is a pixel if it takes 40w of the other why 20w of the other ??? On a same reference of gone if it is necessary 20w for activated 1 pixel it will be necessary to 20 w any resolution and I specify same slab of reference during the sort of factory and not other version.Look at the test on the aero which has the same slab but different resolution, almost 50% difference on a game in maximum consumption in cpu and gpu the rest is the consumption of the screen
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Why do it take 20W for one pixel and 40w for another? Because what you want is not to have the same power on each pixel but on the screen! If you have more pixel, you have them dimmer to have the same light in your eyes!!!! Geez, you are telling me you will not go more blind if you face one 40W light spot or if you face 4 of them!

Check every single monitor that has ips 144hz freesinc 27" from every brand you want, the power consumption will be somewhat the same.

And I know 50 to 60 % of the consumption is the screen, I don't see why you bring that here. Since for the same load, the consumption stay the same from a 4k screen (xperia 1) to a FHD screen (mate 10 pro I have).

Well, now time to go to bed, readers that will wander here will understand, I can't explain in an other way anymore, if you can't understand , not my problem. Fact is xperia 1 probably render almost everything in FHD QHD (VLC for instance is QHD) and uspcale it. First because 90% of android app can't render in 4k, then because it would nbe a waste of power to render basic UI in 4K when no difference is seen with a fhd/2k upscalled.

Plus, xperia 1 has a poor battery life for the price. Nothing more to say here.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
7 hours of screen time is great
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] ptlsajan:
Here is mine. First charge after resetting ( got second hand device).

For 50% i would say it's very good. As pretty heavy calls and youtube. Plus i am in garbage network area.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
you all guys are showing good SOT yet on gsmarena the phone scored trash in the battery test... sometimes I don't understand this :)
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Because sot never meant anything, dunno why people here are all talking about sot, you can make a 3h sot or a 15h sot with any phone.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
true indeed, though 3h for a flagship phone would be trash.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Not really, if you don't use your phone your sot will be really low, since the battery will be consumed while screen off. If I go hiking I will have something like 1h sot.

If I go shooting 4k video in direct sunlight (max boost screen brightness) I will also have a poor sot.

For now accubattery give me a 8h screen on usage and a 80h screen off usage, for a mixed usage of 22h, it's a mean based on 7 days usage.

It's not that bad compared to my mate 10 pro, especially considering the later was heavily closing background task.

Still since I'm all day long on it these days, I need to charge it twice a day.

Not great, not bad either.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
thank you again for the clarification.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
Anyone using stamina mode, what the different because its same if i dont activate it
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] romeokk:
At my normal usage within a day (making several calls, internet/Youtube videos using cellular data, dual sims), I can get 3 hours display time when battery has 35% left.

On Huawei Mate 20, same usage same battery percentage (35%), I got 7 hours display time.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
I of 5 hours never went down you also have to look that the screen of the mate 20 is low range and has more battery

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Xperia 5 is A beast

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
I see you have started to spam the Xperia 5 threads as well.

You'll probably start arguing with yourself that the 1 is better than the 5 and the 5 is better than the 1.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Stop crying and crawl sure you have a low range lol

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
That doesn't even make sense
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
You are not happy that the Xperia 5 with 3100 mah kicks the back of the competition with 4500 mah?

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
Couldn't care
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] kibet85:
how's battery life on android Q? could a few guys share there screen on time and usage patterns. thanks in advance
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
I will do when I'll get the update, still nothing here.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Bellis30:
I've found it to be great. No complaints here.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
I have definitively lost in off screen durability, dropping from 75-70h with a 100% charge to 60h. I will have to check again all my parameter to find what is using that much when I'm not on the phone. SOT is more or less the same.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hazzay88:
What is the SOT?
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] doungmli:
Here is my usage time, take into account that my biggest application that takes its Tik tok battery, Twitch camera fx that I let run in the background (oddly I don't have the duration of use). Without that I would still have 50% of battery, with 4h OSC including 3h of game (dokkan battle and DB legends). we can therefore consider that the battery is not so bad on Android 10
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hazzay88:
Can you share screen on time too
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
After some time using it and all the thing are now settled, here is my battery drain with Android 10, please note that I do some heavy gaming for a month or so on black desert mobile, thus the 100% SoT of 5h42 and the low combined use, but since I have the game running with a 5h mean time/day, it's pretty normal I would say.

And for comparaison, the battery drain with android 9 with not that much gaming:

And here when I got the phone in July:
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] kgsrezardhiansyah:
Where?
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
What are you browsing with? Screenshots are here for me, try with your web browser maybe?
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Elysiumx:
About 5 hours of sot (17% battery left) with over 3 hours of gaming
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] kgsrezardhiansyah:
Yesterday I bought second sony xperia 1, here my SOT only use LTE ?
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
My battery after 1 year

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] gioyocho:
It's average. 92-93% Health, Dark theme, No gaming, Wi-Fi and 4G, No watch movies, No Stamina mode
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Sony Xperia 1's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Deep sleep at night, with WIFI ON, Bluetooth on but not connected, NFC off, Always ON ON but phone turned down so not displayed, no app blocked in background in battery management and off course, air plane OFF:

37% at 00h and 37% at 7AM. Not a single drop for all night (and it's not the fake no drain at 100%, it's at 37%!)

Excellent deep sleep mode.

For regular standby, I can't compare with previous phone, I'm Always playing music with the WH-1000XM3 bundled with it. But considering that, pretty good since it goes around 1.3%/h mean screen off drain on 7days, nights included (around 4%/h screen off when playing music over Bluetooth, screen below). It means 77h usage screen off for a fully charged battery (and a 21h mixed usage for me).

Build 55.0.A.2.278
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] avatar_ro:
Thank you for this!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
This is my standby drain on the latest monthly firmware / security patch..
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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Sony Xperia 1's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Sony Xperia 1's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the Sony Xperia 1 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the Sony Xperia 1 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the Sony Xperia 1 is a beautiful phone.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Sony Xperia 1 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the Sony Xperia 1 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the Sony Xperia 1. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] ultima888:
The Xperia Home Launcher is trash.... Well it's basic and usable. But very limited function and no customization. And the 21:9 split screen needs you to use Xperia Launcher to activate....

But you can always go back to Android default split screen if needed
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] svetius:
Very close to stock. Feels like a Pixel really.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
I agree with you in the part that launcher lacks more customization. But overall very clean android experience
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] GawarFR:
Can't agree.

The side touch makes it so comfortable to use. The control by gesture is delicious!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
I like the current launcher I just hope that with android Q they let change icons

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Sony Xperia 1's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] scoobiesnacks:
Tech radar says outdoor brightness is poor
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Tiger33:
Very poor unfortunately :(
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Timaustin2000:
Gonna be honest, I've had this a few days now and it's been fine. Strangely, the one on display at O2 was noticeably crap but the one I'm typing on now is fine.

I was worried before it arrived. I wonder if there are a few faulty panels out there.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
This fake, this web is Sony hater.

it does not let me put links or photos but in Youtube they have already left display comparisons

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
https://youtu.be/a4iSpQPVLHw

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] scoobiesnacks:
I have had experience using the X1 on a very bright day and the screen is almost unusable outdoors. There may be screen settings that can get around this, but I haven't found them so far.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] josephnero:
Sounds like a faulty device. Go for a return and Exchange
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] svetius:
Wow! Go to the YouTube app, type "4K HDR" and turn up the resolution. It's so crisp it'll make you cry.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
/!\ Do not forget to TURN ON AUTO brightness, since max luminosity in manual is only 391nits! That's not usable outdoor! Maybe here lies the issue with some users. /!\

No issue here for me, the same than my previous Mate 10 pro, if not slightly better.

GSM Arena measured 661nits with a 75% screen target area, while they measured 653 for IPhone XS, and 793 for Galaxy S10+.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Bialynia:
Great in direct sunlight, very impressed.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] leony74:
No issues here at all, I don't know who are the people complaining about the brightness of the screen. It's as good as s10+, I live in Miami the sun is always shining bright here. The comments of people about brightness is not legit.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] KendyTan:
I think the brightness is sufficient, at least for me
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
the sun looks perfectly don't believe what silly tubers say

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
Yet you seem to post a lot of content from tubers lol
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
Hajaha he always said tuber...