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[TouchPad General] roydtowns:
I am having trouble knowing which files to unzip and where

Can someone post exactly which files are loaded into the TP SD card to flash?

I think I am loading too many files...like I have too many zip files on the TP when I give the instruction to flash

Maybe a screen shot of the TP with the files in memory waiting to be flashed.

Thanks
[TouchPad General] smithylovestouchpad:
The files you need to flash and the order they need to be flashed in are listed right there on the OP. Why don't you tell us what you are doing and we can tell you what you are doing wrong. There is no way you can load too many zip files on your TP. You use TWRP to flash the needed files according to the instructions on the OP.

Smithy
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Flash zip files

All_Files_******.zip is an archive that needs to be unzip on a PC and then copy only the *.zip files that will be use to flash in TWRP.

I will use Evervolv Pie as an example as you did not post what ROM you want to flash, but All_Files are structure the same way.

To get the basic ROM copy the following files to the Micro SD card.

1. The ROM

2. HpTp_MAX_1674_CPU_Universal_Optimize_Swap_Evervolv_v9_elginsk8r_Pie.zip

If you do not know the maximum frequency the Tablet can handle start with 1674.

After setting up Android, a higher frequency can be flash.

That is all that is need it, two files. That will get the basic ROM install, keep adding optional files that you would like to use, example ROM_Reducer, Black_default_wallpaper.

There is a README file with the following information:

The Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_500MB_Swap or

Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_1GB_Swap

Must have been flash prior to flash the following

unzip all files and select the ones to flash in the following order:

1. Download: ROM

2. Options A or B

A Max_Kernel_Ramdisk_build_prop_Settings ( Provides better performance )

HpTp_Max

The stock Kernel is optimized, provides more RAM faster frequency up to 1836.

Ramdisk and build.prop settings are optimized also.

B Stock_Kernel_Changed_Ramdisk_build_prop_Settings

HpTp_

The stock Kernel is unchanged, less RAM frequency up to 1782 and not optimized.

Ramdisk and build.prop settings are the only ones changed.

3. Optional ROM Reducer

Moves some of the ROM stock Apps to another folder and don't get installed providing more free RAM in Android.

4. Optional Download : Open Gapps,get the current Pico variant and select ARM (first from top left)

5. Optional Download: The ROM have system READ and Write enabled, allowing for permanent ROOT.

For root access flash SuperSu v2.82

6. Optional Download: Universal Authority

Change all swap settings and more

7. Optional Download: Flash the ToolBox to /boot only to reflash A6 Firmware for the battery.

8. Optional Set Default Wallpaper To Black

After flashing ROM Reducer the App to select a different wallpaper is not installed.

A Black background will replaced the stock ROM wallpaper permanently and it can not be restored.

All the files must be flash in TWRP Recovery at one time and reboot into the Android Welcome Setup screen to finish the setup.

Some Apps like youtube will not play video or work properly at first run, a reboot is required.

Always keep the Tablet ON and charging, connected to WiFi if possible.

Attached are screenshots, if any question just ask.
[TouchPad General] middle_road:
So, I got back to playing around with a couple of mine.

Had one that I installed CM11 4.4.4 JCS on and YouTube & Playon weren't functioning correctly and it was doing random reboots.

I'm finding myself using YouTube more and more with the Roku, I like making up a playlist and casting better then using the remote.

Nuked it, and installed EV7.1.2 with the 1GB Swap and MaxExtreme [MENTION=827116]172[/MENTION]8, ROMReducer.

It's been working pretty well. Battery @ ~50% the next morning.

Took another and and did up EV7.1.2 also with 1GB Swap and Standard CPU [MENTION=827116]172[/MENTION]8, ROMReducer, with NO GApps.

Battery life is awesome and device is snappy!

Sideloading is easy enough, but of course a lot of apps do not run without Google Play Services...

Interestingly, the Brave Browser needs Play Services. I need to install Bromite and give that a try.

Have FireFox on it but it's behaving oddly. Nothing I can put a finger on yet though.

Third one has Milaq's 4.4.4 on it, nuked and 1GB Swap. Can't remember what CPU I used though.

YouTube crashes out when casting. Tried installing an older version of YT but when it launches it puts up a nag screen to update and you can't get past it.

The last two are still on _old_ installs of 4.4.4.

Thanks again [MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION] for all of your efforts on this!

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[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
There are many ways to set up and use the Tablet, but it can be generalize into two main setups:

1. Mobile Device

Using Google Play Services

Open Gapps

( It will take more resources )

microG, can be use to have access to the Play Store with minimum extra resources.

2. PC or Laptop

Install Android Apps without the Play Store.

Same as just using a PC, download the Apps and install.

There are a lot of alternative Google Apps available for example youtube:

Click HERE for youtube-app-alternatives

Click HERE for NewPipe Releases

Aurora Store

Click HERE for Aurora Store on XDA
[TouchPad General] zcubed:
nevermind please delete this comment
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Any other questions, just post it.
[TouchPad General] zcubed:
Thanks for the quick response, I was able to fix recovery by deleting the large background image file for moboot with a copy of a splash. Then I did something really stupid, I tried to place a smaller .tga file as the background and have bricked moboot. It gives this cryptic message now: [60] panic (caller 0x50004339): gfx_surface_blend: unimplemented colorspace combination (source 0 target 2)

I can get into WebOS recovery and that's it. Any ideas how I can replace the moboot.background.tga without completely starting over?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
There is no need to start over, if you can get into WebOS Recovery.

Any TWRP Recovery can be loaded into the Tablet's memory using the novacom driver on PC and make changes to the files in the /boot partition.

Extract TWRP, Recovery should be rename to uImage.Recovery ( place it on the palm folder )

Open a command prompt in the palm folder ( novacom ) and enter

novacom boot mem:// <uImage.Recovery

Recovery will be loaded to the Tablet's memory the same way as it gets loaded from moboot.

Then make changes to /boot.
[TouchPad General] zcubed:
Perfect, got the tablet back up. Thanks again! Any recommendations on light weight moboot backgrounds?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I have never used a background, it only stays for less than 5 seconds but it can make you spend more than 5 minutes to get the Tablet to boot up again.

Try to keep /boot as simple as possible to prevent boot uImages errors when flashing.
[TouchPad General] zcubed:
I wasn't sure if moboot loaded with the background file deleted. Any list of files I can safely remove without killing moboot? I am assuming the splash files can also be removed?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Yes all *.tga files can be remove from /boot including the moboot background and everything works the same, proving a little bit more of space.
[TouchPad General] Pongo_Snodgrass:
Hi all, After jumping onboard with ICS back in Firesale days I’ve still have 3 Touchpads 2 x 32Gb and a 64Gb

I found this thread about breathing new life into the Touchpad using the 64Gb version as it’s supposed to be the ‘most powerful’

I’ve always used JCSullins 4.4.4 build for years as all others never seemed to work as well

I’ve tried a few of the ROMs in the OP but they lag like crazy and Netflix doesn’t work and Amazon Prime keeps closing so I’m going to install JCS 4.4.4 again

Sorry, my question is, for the 64Gb, what do you recommend, 500 or 1Gb swap, best frequency and any other issues I should be aware of?

Thanks to all on here for keeping this device going, I love checking back here to find it’s still going strong!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The Tablet can easily play videos in HD 1980x1080 resolution, but the HpTp_MaXtreme kernel must be use.

Is all about the correct settings and using the highest frequency.
[TouchPad General] Pongo_Snodgrass:
Great thank you, I’ll try all that today and report back how I get on! Thanks for taking the time to reply back so quickly!
[TouchPad General] dizzymon:
Streaming 1080P on my 16GB without any problems on youtube. Great little tablet for watching youtube.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Thanks for the feedback and verifying that it works !

To keep the battery at full charge capacity, use the Tablet playing videos with the screen brightness to the maximum and charging.

Is always best to have it charging (if possible ) while in maximum usage. Discharging and re-charging will shorten battery life.
[TouchPad General] smithylovestouchpad:
You might want to try the attached Moboot background. It's only around a kilobyte in size and gives a nice look to Moboot. Just unzip it and copy it to /boot. You have to be careful when putting file in /boot as there is limited space. But this file is small and I've never had a problem using it as a background. I'm also attaching a moboot.timeout file that will give you 15 seconds instead of 5 seconds. Same thing, just unzip it and copy to /boot.

Smithy
[TouchPad General] lipenheimer@gmail.com:
I'm about to embark! WISH ME LUCK!!!

8)

Had 4 of these 6 tablets sitting here with sticky notes on them stating WIPE and their Flash size.

Only one of them is 16 Gig

All the others are 32.

So I already have a NONB Swap JC Sullins 4.4.4 that works fab and won't be messing with that one.

I have another that I have Linux on that I use for this and that at client's places to hit their routers and edge devices and program larger wireless networks.

These other 4 will get the swap setups.

Going to try one with JC's 4.4.4 rom with a swap on it.

Another will have the Evervolv 7.1

Another with DU 8.1.0

And the other with the DU 9

Weeeeeeeeee Philthy Phlashing!!

Hey HP Touchpad!!!!!

AMORE MEANS "MUCH LOVE" IN EYETALIAN!!!!

Thanks for keeping things happening on the fav tabs man.

They are such a blast.

Lip Lip Lip
[TouchPad General] smithylovestouchpad:
So what's the verdict on the different installs?

Smithy
[TouchPad General] LightC:
WiFi instability

Anyone using Evervolv 7.1.2 and having WiFi instability? I have WiFi always on selected but it seems to disconnect intermittently and not reconnect (showing an empty WiFi icon with 0 signal). Manually reconnecting to the access point works and shows full signal bars. Rebooting works as well.

After a little while it seems to disconnect again. I have other android devices that don't have this problem. It definitely seems to be ROM or kernel related. Anyone have any workarounds?

I thought Evervolv 7.1.2 would be the best in terms of performance and app compatibility but I'm willing to switch to another ROM if needed.
[TouchPad General] dizzymon:
I had the same problem with mine but it doesn't bother me as mine doesn't disconnect if I use it but otherwise it does have the same issue. I think the same happens with the Pie rom as well.
[TouchPad General] knightnz:
Thanks very much for all the hard work guys, great to have the old TouchPad still usable after all this time!
[TouchPad General] LightC:
I'm using my TouchPads for some push notifications so I really need wifi to be stable. Anyone know which ROM has rock solid Wi-Fi?

There seems to be a bug in Evervolv 7 which disconnects the Wi-Fi intermittently

---------- Post added at 08:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:26 AM ----------

[MENTION=8005714]HP_TOUCHPAD[/MENTION], wifi seems to disconnect intermittently in Evervolv 7. Do you know if there is a fix or does one of the other roms have consistent wifi stability?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
[MENTION=1816063]LightC[/MENTION] I have never experience any WiFi disconnects from Evervolv 7.1.2. It is 100% stable, make sure you are within the acceptable distance from the router.

If not get a repeater, also the changes on your router makes a difference, 2.4G for longer range, 5G shorter range.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Hi, I'm trying to fix up an old Touchpad that is too laggy to use currently. Someone gave it to me like this (https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/help-fix-kids-to-learn-t4071509). Someone pointed me to this thread and said it might help, but I'm confused as what this recommending I do. Can anyone help break this down for a Touchpad n00b?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
If you are familiar with Android and flashing or installing a ROM ( operating system ). Then is very simple, download the .zip file, copy to Tablet and using TWRP flash it ( install it )

That is all to it, download and flash, boot into Android.

Do not worry about it if you do something wrong, the Tablet will not get brick no matter what mistake you may do.

There is a lot of information on this thread, but here is the basic:

1. Download ( Automatic Wipe All and create Android with Swap ( pick any )

Flash it using the current TWRP is on the tablet now.

2. Select the ROM you want to use ( try Evervolv 7.1.2 )

Download the files and flash

3. Download the HpTp_MAX kernel ( flash lower frequency first and then higher )

For better browsing and youtube experience, there is no need to flash Google Open Apps.

The following Apps can be install by downloading to PC, then copy to Tablet and install.

Browser: https://www.bromite.org/

Youtube: Newpipe : https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/releases

The most important to always keep in mind:

DO NOT let the tablet to completely discharge, always keep it charging even if you can manage to keep it charging while using youtube.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Thanks! Yes that makes more sense now.

So what about things like formatting partitions to F2FS? Is that covered in the wipe all? I've read little things here and there from users who also complained about laggy OSes on here and that was something many recommended.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Wipe All use the ext4 format. There is a separate flash file that will format DATA into F2FS.

It is best to use the standard ext4 format, F2FS does not provide any speed improvement or help with lag.

The only thing that will make the Tablet perform at maximum performance is by flashing the highest frequency kernel ( that your specific tablet can handle)

Not all the Tablets work at the same frequency, you will have to find out what is the highest yours can handle by flashing a frequency at a time and test it.

Is an old device, but if use for Youtube, e-mail or Browsing then it will work perfectly.

Try not to install the google open apps, keep it basic and using newpipe the Tablet can play videos even in HD 1080 ( not that is need it, but it can do it )
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Ok I followed the steps and installed everything using the lowest CPU first. It's working remarkably well, much better than the slow as heck turd of a setup the previous owner had, even after I had hard reset multiple times.

Thanks so much! Now I'm curious about what speed I can OC to. Can I just dirty flash a different MHz oc zip over my setup or do I need to wipe and start over each time? I'm wondering since the steps say to install it before gapps, which is already on here.

And yes, I need the play store since one of the apps I'm running is a commercial one bought for my kids to learn on.
[TouchPad General] BGrosse:
No, it's not needed. Just flash forth and back the CPU clock freq zips you want to test. Usually a normal TP goes up to 1792, some are possible to have 1836 as well. Just try it - it's safe. If the beast does not boot anymore - just go back to TWRP and flash the freq zip where it worked before.

Have fun! :highfive:
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Exactly as [MENTION=2155402]BGrosse[/MENTION] mentioned, just flash a higher frequency, if if freeze or dos not boot then flash a lower frequency, you could flash the 1836 at first and see what happens.

Use the MaXtreme kernel for the fastest setting from this link:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/zadfhdbskoii1/HpTp_MaXtreme_Kernel

The Wipe_All is only require to be done one time. After that just flash any ROM listed on this thread.

Thank you [MENTION=2155402]BGrosse[/MENTION] for helping and good to know you still around!
[TouchPad General] BGrosse:
Always will be happy and still here to help out whereever I can... Hopefully everything goes well for everyone of you guys...?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
All is going fine on my side, just follow the directions and obey, everything should turn out well.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Wow you guys totally saved my device!

I was being told on other corners of the internet that this thing is just too old to be useful, but I did not understand how that is possible considering development is still alive for it!

Sure its not the fastest device (and when compared to my flagship SD845 smartphone you can feel the difference), but you made it USABLE. The apps I want on a big screen 100% work now, and I'm incredibly thankful for it!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The tablet works perfectly and has many uses, more than when release with Webos in 2011. The screen is the perfect size and the sound is phenomenal!

All ROMs listed on this thread works as fast, ALL developers did a great job with all the ROMs. I only tweak the Kernel and Ramdisk to make the settings permanent and easier for any user to flash. Thanks for your feedback, it is great to know that there is another happier user of the HP Touchpad!
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Preach! This hardware is solid.

I do love the screen, however I'm finding it an awkward size to get a generic case for. Previous owner gave it to me in a case made for a 10" Android tablet in a 16:9 orientation and it very much does NOT fit properly (one side sticks out of the case akwardly and another corner is obstructed by the screen cut out). Authentic cases are rare and not as cheap as generics, but such is life. :) I'm happy with the functionality of the unit. I do wish the camera worked so my kids could also use it for classroom apps as we're in lockdown from the corona virus right now, but I'm happy enough using my laptop for that.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
Take a look in ebay, you will find authentic cases like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-HP-TouchPad-9-7-16-32GB-Tablet-Slipcase-Cover-Sleeve-Case-NIB/273594732964?epid=7012071675&hash=item3fb38451a4:g:0TQAAOSwGPNcBucd

I do not know what ROM you finally flashed but the camera works in Evervolv 7.1.2.

Get Open Camera App from google store and use instead of the stock. I do not know if it will work with the Kids school app, but you can give it a try.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
What rom would you recommend?
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
It all depends on the intended use, each ROM provide different usability.

For a ROM that provides Bluetooth, Camera and stable WiFi then Evervol 7.1.2.
[TouchPad General] Dishe:
Yeah evervolv 7.1.2 is the one I picked. The apps I originally wanted to use on here work fine (piano learning and an ereader). My kids asked if we can put a couple of games on it for use between studying so I picked some of the classics that usually run on super limited hardware such as cut the rope, fruit ninja, and jetpack joyride, but they all seem to get stuck on loading. Also some apps don't appear in the play store at all (for example, antutu benchmark I noticed). Yet one game, where's my water, not only loaded fine but actually runs remarkably smoothly! It's so odd... Was wondering if maybe it was something about this rom, or maybe something about the play store configuration? But if this is the "most stable" of the bunch, maybe I'll just be happy enough it works so well with the things I need.
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
The games are tricky as it depends on how well the developer optimized it. Also what brings down the tablet is the advertisement not the game itself.

The same happens on the desktop now when browsing the internet, the Adds are extremely intrusive that will slow the PC. Is not the hardware but the overwhelming use of auto loading Adds.

On the google app store the Apps are filter by device, you can download any app you want using these alternatives:

https://medium.com/pen-bold-kiln-press/best-google-play-store-alternatives-30c759de1c26

The issue is not with the ROM as is very stable. Thanks for reporting your experience!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
ZOOM Video Conference

To my curiosity I install the Android App ZOOM to the HP Touchpad with the Evervolv 7.1.2 ROM as listed on this thread.

https://www.zoom.us/

IS AMAZING !

I could not believe that the camera works flawless ! Is as perfect as any new device.

Now the HP Touchpad is the perfect device for ZOOM video conference, the screen size makes it perfect to view many participants.
[TouchPad General] BuffMcBigHuge:
Although I love my HP Touchpad, I'm finding that Evervolv 7.1.2 is a bit unstable:

- System UI seems to crash every so often requiring 2 minutes or so to get back to the lock screen, usually the nav and status bar disappear and this is the telltale sign

- Other times it's incredibly unresponsive and takes a while to do anything, I keep tap sounds on to get an idea when the tablet is listening or hanging,

- The WiFi seems to cut out now and again, requiring a toggle off and back on.

Overall, it works very well as a digital picture frame and video streaming, but it's really hard to use it anymore than that, as interactions can be frustrating.

I'm assuming most of my issues are related to the RAM, but I installed the 1G swap. I'm going to experiment with the different CPU flashables.

Thank you everyone for your work in keeping this device alive!
[TouchPad General] HP_TOUCHPAD:
I have never experienced any of the issues you mentioned with Evervolv 7.1.2 or any other ROM listed on this thread.

Not everyone uses the Tablet the same way or install the same Apps and that is where all the issues comes from.

This is not a device that is preset with an operating system from factory, like iOS. For the Hp Touchpad the user has full control of everything with extensive selection of operating system and completely open. if the user is very well aware of what is doing then it will work fine, but if not then it will be unstable and almost impossible to be use.

The way the flash files were created on this thread is to give the best configuration and performance for all the ROMs. But if the user goes on it's way of modifying and adding extra optimization Apps then it will fail. It is posted everywhere, to just keep it as is to get the most out of it.

If the user is experiencing problems with the ROM, then it must mentioned in specific how the tablet was flash and all the Apps been use, without that information nobody can provide any help or suggestion.

The best practice when reporting issues, please provide:

1. Details of the flash process.

2. Kernel Type and frequency use.

3. Google Open gapps version and date.

4. All the Apps currently running on the Tablets.

For Wifi:

Type of band use 2.4 or 5.

Channel number and how much interference is reported by the router.

How strong the signal is ( or distance away from router )

It only takes one setting to get it all wrong.