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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] WarVic:
Your painful reaction just confirmed my thoughts about Xperia 1 camera quality and Sony smartphone cameras overall. Yes, the truth really hurts, mate. You just don't want to accept it which is quite normal behavior for fanboys. I've nothing against Sony, just got very disappointed and annoyed with their inability to finally make a real rival to Chinese smartphone manufacturers.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members, all have their views regarding cameras, different options on different camera's. If you own said device, sure you can comment and post your views and thoughts, but keep it polite and just, if you do not like a device and or it's hardware, fine, move on, and keep to your device liking.

Thanks.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
Thanks for drop by and make a warning, some people just don't understand what the forum is for. Is better for the sake of the thread, ignore such immature people.

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Amazing pics, did you use auto or manual mode?

Cause it seems HDR was used in most of them
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Only auto mode with autofocus (well, you loose the HDR if no AF -_-). So basically, point and shoot.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] lepszy:
I really like the camera, especially that the photos come out really natural without overblowing the colours like other cameras tend to do. Coming from pixel 2xl, only thing I miss is the consistency, pixel was able to get a very good photo pretty much every time, with x1 I get an occasional crappy photo, pretty sure it's something that can be fixed via software update.

Here's a couple from my holiday in Greece.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
This is mine
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] WarVic:
Thanks heaps for honest unbiased feedback. This is exactly what I wanted to hear and see. My very first post was about the lack of exciting feedbacks & mind-blowing reviews as well as billions great photos here and there. The absence of that clearly indicates that Xperia 1 camera system is not a breakthrough or revelation as it supposed to be and as it was advertised. But this thread is full of fanboys which don't really what to hear any negativity = truth about it. So I've got my streams of angry spits and litres of poison :).

Coming from Huawei P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, currently using P30 and I think that I'm coming back to Pixel 3 XL due to the same reason - lack of consistency. It seems the plague of both Huawei and Sony high-end smartphones. Still considering to get Xperia 1 once I find it for $500 - $600 (it's not worth more than that to my opinion) but definitely will miss wireless charging, face recognition and properly working fingerprint sensor.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
If u dont like this phone just back to where u belong
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] WarVic:
I'll decide what to do so please keep your precious advise to yourself. Thanks
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
I Don't really see why you would think the Xperia 1 is supposed to be a breakthrougt or a reveleation. The only thing special about this phone is the 21/9 ratio coupled to a 4k HDR screen and a good upscaling software to use it really well. Camera is just on par with other phones. Not the best, not the worst either (hello Oppo reno 10x zoom). Every brand just like to brag about their flagship camera because they Don't have choice, it became mainstream. Also, not a lot of people buy their phones by reading reviews on the internet, and far less by reading comments on forum. They just go in a shop, listen to the often ****ty advice from the seller and buy what they like to see in the moment.

That said, being told what "Truth" is from someone that never had the phone in hand sounds a lot like a hater that doesn't put any water in its wine. (Being a scientist, talking about "Truth" make me smile) But I assume you are not a native English speaker (nor am I) and that's why you often sound really harsh in your way of saying things. Also, not understanding some people could prefer this phone' photos over other without being fanboy when they disagree with you, is the same thing that calling you hater because you Don't agree with the one that like the phone.

Please Don't forget that liking thing is all about taste and luckily, there are no right or bad taste, just personnal ones.

I'll post some shots done with P30Pro, Oppo renox 10X zoom, Xperia1 and nokia 9 pv when I'll come back home. None of them will have wow effect, even the p30pro (any dslr will just be so far better than our camera phone) and you will see the differences are not that visible at the end. They are all not bad in photo.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
I agree 100 percent.

I know i can buy p30 pro because the zoom is insane. But i buy this phone because i dont need that zoom.

If i can choose i want buy windows phone series.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] WarVic:
Well said, thanks for this too. You're right about everything. My English could be better, true. I always read numerous reviews from different sources and people (not fanboys) opinion before going after a smartphone. I'd never listen sellers advice because I sell electronics time to time by myself :). Smartphone showroom impression is nearly always misleading and wrong. Yes, camera quality (plus speakers and screen) is a buying point for me. Again, I'm not a fanboy of particular brand but only Pixel phones delivered wow effect to me so far. I can upload few photos taken by my Pixel 3 to show what I'm talking about. And I'll be very interested to see your photos from different flagships compared to X1. Thanks
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Zoom p30 pro is I undoubtedly prefer the video recording of the Xperia 1

What idiot zooms X10 on a mobile? It looks all pixelated.

What do I want pixelated photos for?

They still think it is a camera without a Sony mirror of 3000 euros

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
Probably someone who wants to zoom at something that's very far away
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
You are right, zoom is handy but no a deal breaker for me. I thought of getting the p30 pro but didn't like the notch, the software and the photo quality (color accuracy).
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
The optical x5 zoom is really decent and make photo good enough for social media, no need to go 10x, when you travel you are often between 50-100mm focal. I would have liked a x3 lens on the Xperia instead of the x2.

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Here some shots of the same place taken with P30Pro, Xperia 1, Nokia 9, Oppo Reno 10x zoom, auto, clic and point, so N9 is not as its best here. The DNG is better, but we don't really care here.

Sorry, they are not done the same day, P30Pro was 1 month before so trees are not the same. But the scene, while not amazing, is pretty complex with all the trees.

https://imgur.com/a/1aBmlfR

Leaves looks better on P30Pro (maybe windy for the Xperia shot, I don't know, it's blurry, I'll try again EDIT: here, but light not the same: https://imgur.com/3dXaK3t ), but I prefer the white wall of the house from the Xperia 1, the texture is less like a drawing. My biggest grip with the last high end phone is often about white things that look out of their place, they are too clean and too "flat" like added on the photo afterward with paint.

Some night shot will come, I just need to take one with the Xperia.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
And here the night shots:

https://imgur.com/a/wAxeWhx

P30Pro is a beast here. Auto mode only again. Night mod for oppo and huawei, since they have it. Sony still use some slight night mode but it doesn't works well here because of the big light source in the square. For this scene especially the Xperia 1 is really in trouble.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
Xperia 1 tends to overexpose the lights source (light pole) but is better preserving what the scene looks like to the naked eye. Maybe with HDR you would get better contrast
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
that comparison is very rare, Xperia photo have more angular than others, Here it is zoomed

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
I just took the photo, multiple time, and it's not zoomed, just not the same framing. It's the same framing as the Oppo and it looks the same. Sorry for not the exact same shot for comparaison, I only have the Xperia now and didn't look excatly how I framed my shot 3 month ago on the P30Pro :)

Here with the same framing (but full night now)

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Well, to have the scene in front of my eyes, I can say the vibes is more like it yes, but the shadows are still too dark, while the light are blown. We can't control HDR on the Xperia (or I didn't found it). Only the IA can trigger it and it detected night scene.

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And here some junk in low light condition, with an orange source of light. The drape is red with the Xperia 1 and orange with P30Pro, that's the colors of the drapes, but still, P30Pro was really "good" to find the white balance here, but it lost the real color of the room. I took a picture of myself in this orange room and the room appeared white and only slightly warm. On the other hand, the Xperia lose a lot of detail in the shadow here.

https://imgur.com/a/UHx7fa5

Oppo reno was a total mess with the drape here, I couldn't even see the fold.

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And finally the last sample I have : https://imgur.com/a/5tyCf4E

Read the description about White balance. None of theme is correct. P30Pro main sensor over correct, showing a slightly warm light when it's should be orange. Xperia struggle and give a reddish tint, like the zoom camera of the P30 pro and almost every camera I used in this scene. If I play with the light to have a white-yellowish or slightly grreenish tint, then all phone show the wall white and are wrong. But that are really specific scenes where you have the room brightened by a unique colored light, every phone will struggle with the white balance here, just try to play with some RGB light, and you will see differences across the light spectrum.

Anyway, now I have done all those comparison, daylight, I like the Xperia more because of the flatness and paint style other with quadbayer sensor give, specifically to white object like car or wall, they just lose all the texture, displaying a plain white. That kind of detail really bother me in a photo, but I'm too sensible about it.

For low light, P30Pro is really a beast. I didn't try my mother Pixel3A because, well, it's my mother phone, so I can't say about google counterpart.

But Xperia isn't that bad, it is like other phone, Oppo reno does have a night mode that does well with HDR, but the detail are heavily blurred, in this case, Xperia is better. At the end, it's just the huawei that really excell in this case. (I f only it didn't have a notch and curved screen!)
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] WarVic:
Thanks for a detailed comparison and photo samples. Well done!

P.S.: Still would be interested to see how "old tech" Pixel 3 (not 3a) behave in the same condition.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
No need to compare, pixel 3, even the pixel 2xl will take a better picture
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Lol when pay dxomark

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
Dxomark is irrelevant, pixels do better photos which is a fact

Xperia 1 camera is nothing special, even my mi mix 3 from last year even does better
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
you mi mix 3 it's A trash no dreams lol.

Xperia have BEST video camera y BEST camera photos..

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Sensination:
Wow:eek:

Seriously man! Did Sony kidnap your family and are forcing you to be such fanboy? Xperia 1 has a decent camera (and improved a lot since XZ3) but it's way behind the competition and it's a fact. Do you really think that all reviewers in many different countries are just Sony haters? I saw YouTube and read press reviews of people from US, UK, Germany, Poland and Spain and they all say the same: "Average camera with many flaws and mediocre vidoe recording capabilities. Step in a good direction for Sony but still miles behind the competition."

Personal preferences aside it's just not as good as other phones like S10, Pixel 3 or P30. I like the X1 photos more than S10 for example but I also like Pixel 3 photos much more thatn X1 which is way behind Pixel. Again, you might not like Pixel photos more than X1 but personal preferences aside, technically Pixel 3 has a better camera.

Stop drinking Sony's cool aid mate and look at it objectively like a grown man. I know it hurts when someone criticises your new toy but that's a very childish behaviour and reacting with agression shows that you have some serious issues with yourself. It's just a phone man, nobody is offending your mother/girlfriend etc. here. Sony is a corporation designed to make money and defending them at each step is just silly...
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Let it be, at this point he's more like a troll than a fan boy.

The big thing about the xperia 1 is its form factor.

Camera can be better, even if some better camera produce less likeable photo due to software choice, depending of each other taste. But that doesn't remove the fact the camera is not the best around. You are right about it.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Couldnt agree more.

I agree if someone said Xperia 1 has great natural color science & great detail preservation due to their new RAW noise reduction. Autofocus on fast moving objects & Eye AF is definitely an advantage over others (minus Eye AF, Pixel are great too in this regards) But thats it.

Compare to others, the weakness of X1 are

- lack of Auto HDR, therefore overblown highlights everywhere on high contrast scene & low light (even manually HDR on, the smoothing effects happening). I wont call it natural because of this.

- definitely oversharpen photos, ringing halos and noisier than others because of it (they already using sharp Zeiss lens, why add more sharpness on image processing?)

- Video recording sometimes choppy. 1080p video stability & almost non jittery are the best. 4k stability not great, looks like its confuse wether to use OIS or EIS lol.

I'm a Sony user, but wont deny their weaknesses, that hopefully can be improve in the future. Blind fanboys just agrees on everything Sony does eventhough its a bad thing, which kinda pathetic.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
Agree xperia 1 need improvement but basically its camera apps... Today i have crash this apps

About quality yes behind the pixel but not far. In my opinion

And what i had told sony need to learn how optimize computational photography because the hardware its capable
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
I uploaded some samples:

https://xdaforums.com/xperia-1/how-to/xperia1xzxz1-quick-photo-vs-t3951212
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Lol you are a little boy who teases youtubers and websites paid for by Samsung Apple and Google when you are an adult you get scared .

Xperia 1 in vídeo récord destroy pixel 3 , S10 + and p30 pro Half gas..

you think that the p30 and pixel 3 have a better video camera than the Xperia 1 lol

https://youtu.be/Htz4u9LCJU8

Relax man often billet of text you've written the same way you think pixel 3 is better than a Sony A7R lV lol Someday your favorite youtuber will make you believe

They make you a blind test and you don't know every photo that smartphone is

Pixel 3 photos wash the image a lot and have a lot of noise.

https://youtu.be/9jQ3sbOIHHw

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] WarVic:
Typical, childish response of arrogant fanboy who is not able to accept proved facts and objective critics. This forum and this branch in particular is not about blind fanaticism and Sony worshipping. Sure there is no perfect phone. And no one said that Xperia 1 is bad. It's just appeared to be further from ideal device than rivals. Sad, but true. Certainly X1 didn't fulfill my expectations. Hope X2 will be on pair with Huawei and Google at least.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Huawei and Google Only they know how to pay reviews

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
Stop being a fanboy, it's getting a bit old now
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
now not being stupid is being a fanboy

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
Anandtech Xperia 1 review is out. The camera ups & down exactly as i mention before - https://www.anandtech.com/show/14648/the-sony-xperia-1-review-a-219-take-of-the-world
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
That perfectly explain why I like this camera so much and ended up with this phone while sending back huawei, nokia and oppo counterpart.

There is someone here that will have a hard time learning the screen is pentile from samsung ?

I wonder if the blue variation in the grayscale isn't to anticipate the wear of the blue oled in the screen. Turning the screen warmer wile time's going. All of my one year old oled phone are noticeably warmer and needed correction every 3-4 months.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] snake218:
I was reading a little about color temperature, it seems in Japan the standard color format is not 6500k, is colder. Maybe that has to do with it.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
Why in lowlight its worse tha iphone xs..i had own iphone xs max before and the picture in lowlight worse tha xperia 1
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] grizzlyspid86:
In terms of dynamic range, highlights control of Iphone XS better, that alone represents overall image quality without pixel peeping. The only Xperia 1 surpass others on low lights are details preservation, which can be benefits when pixel peeping only, where the rest of aspects on image quality behind others.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] blegs:
I think noise reduction its good too, but whit my eyes xperia 1 its more good than iPhone xs.

But yes i aggre if pixel more step ahead when u look with your naked eye
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Photo paella

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] ClericCC:
Makro
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Ok guys so now I've found out we can manually activate HDR here the nights shots:

Full Auto:

Manual mode -full auto- HDR on

And then Full auto (no HDR) but without any direct bright spot:

This last shot is really good in my opinion being handheld. Trees in the background still have their leaves visisbles. And detail on the mountain in the back were not visible with human sight. The photo make some detail visibles, but stay dark as night. I like what the phone can do some times, I'm pretty sure other phone would not keep that lvl of detail.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
I like the black sky of the photos of the Xperia 1 other smartphones put pollution and noise

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
No flash all dark

https://ibb.co/Cwv9BTx

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Auto mode, not edited, x2 lens. Don't forget to clic to have the full size image.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] axcelred:
1x,2x,W of the same subject

Auto, shot standard, kept phone in place, switch lens, and snap.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
https://youtu.be/3tHbsmYMEfY

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Day

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] doungmli:
photo editing for samsung? the information is impossible to extract (iso, focal, exposure, model ...), name of the file "photostudio" it is not a photo of s10 + but a big fake
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] tomo100brt:
Look at my no details on photo

DSC_1518 by Tomislav Matic, on Flickr

DSC_1514 by Tomislav Matic, on Flickr

DSC_1516 by Tomislav Matic, on Flickr

DSC_1509 by Tomislav Matic, on Flickr
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] jms.flynn:
[MENTION=3719284]tomo100brt[/MENTION] Those are some fantastic pictures. Shows when people know how to set correct ISO and white balance you can get some amazing quality pictures.

I took a couple this evening walking my dog in the rain.

Just point and shoot, all on auto. Tricky conditions due to changing exposure. I think the camera does well.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/om7jNxqVC9BZUGzQ9
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Wow! Really good photo you two!

I love the one with the three trees [MENTION=1074157]jms.flynn[/MENTION] !

An other place, this afternoon:

https://imgur.com/a/G9RhRQA

With no filters. The first ones that looks like filtered are only Manual mode (auto settings) with HDR on. I like the old vibe that result. It's the first time that happen.

The fixed focus on the wide lens is sometimes boring (the one with the salt would have been better if focused on the salt). It is hard to really check the photo in sunlight also. The screen is readable, but detail like focus are hard to see.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] jms.flynn:
[MENTION=8247999]Hildr[/MENTION] Thanks very much! Your photos are also very good! I really like the salt picture.

I equally share a couple of your complaints, the wide angle can be boring but it is a great option to have. The focus in my mind is the most frustrating part of the phone. I feel I miss focus far more than any other phone I have had.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hildr:
Yeah, focus is a bit tricky. With time I have less issue to handle it, but it's not like other phone, that's true. On the other side, Eye AF is really impressive!
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] murrayalex:
Just back from holiday in Spain, the Xperia 1 took some superb low light pictures, the quality of which I was genuinely surprised with. Way better than any previous Xperia device I've had, believe me I've had a few. Also much better than my iPhone XS Max.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] jms.flynn:
A couple more of just point and shoot this morning. All unedited and in auto mode. This really is a fantastic camera. No complaints at all. Can't wait to run a few shots through lightroom and see how they turn out.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Hp4nzJP7VGu9s7te6
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Dog

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Mackay53:
That's a cat
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] cynk42:
Sunset colors, no edits, auto mode
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
breakfast

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Night power

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Night

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] Hana88:
Love this phone
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
Snapped this sunny little beauty over here at the beach in Alcúdia, Mallorca (Spain) yesterday.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
I'm also Mallorca lol

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
What hotel are you staying at? ?
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xFirefly93:
One another photo taken today within the 'Old Town' here in Alcúdia, Mallorca. I am pretty impressed, from a personal perspective, by the camera on the X1 to be honest.
[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] xzpremium1976:
Calas de Mallorca other zone

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[Sony Xperia 1 Real Life Review] iArvee:
Edited with lightroom!