yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] HTCFAN0923:
I was like 5-6 yrs old when it came out, funny ass movie...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
"They up at 4 o'clock in the morning, drinking coffee -n- eating No-doze, hollaring, You can't hang, you can't hang":D:eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
whats the name of the movie?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] P1Tater:
Bebe's Kids, I think. I cant remember. I've got alzheimer's.

Edit:

Damn, I was in college as well.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103783/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Lol...high school years for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RizwanKhan:
cool thanks man :) will check it out
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] denco7:
Hah , Ten years into my first job working on my second masters.

Oh crap , Am I old?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Praygo:
this rom will have the alleged "video drivers" ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Diamond ROM != HTC's updated Tytn video driver
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] swtaltima:
Is this for real?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] conceptcar3:
yes, it's for real. We have semi- hardware acceleration in the NLD rom, and the diamond drivers, though not immediately port-able to the kaiser, have the fabled hardware acceleration
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MrEous:
Is what real?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] fb401:
LMAO @ The Bebe's Kids reference. That was middle school years for me (I was 9).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] KaiserVideoDriver:
I believe what MrEous meant is "Diamond ROM is NOT equal to HTC's updated Tytn video driver"
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Well because no soft keyboard is as good as the iphone one (only MY opinion). So I needed a HW keyboard.:cool:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] karneson:
Ummm

!= means "not equal to" in languages like C. The amount of work needed to integrate the diamond drivers sounds substantial, but if they can be hacked together it would be a wonderful thing. I would loved to be running the HTC Diamond TouchFlo interface at an acceptable FPS.

Good work and cudos to everyone who continues to fight the good fight for Kaiser hardware acceleration.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Martinhdk:
we are getting closer now

http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1

....."Before we continue on that point, there's something else you should know. There is also a leaked Diamond ROM. We have pulled this ROM apart and guess what: it has graphics drivers! They follow the same structure as the KS20 drivers too, with the "ahi2dati" driver at the core of the hardware accelerated graphics, talking to the hardware. It seems to be a bit more compatible with the current Kaiser ROMs, but note we have not compared the internal calls (yet!) to the new leaked NLD and WWE ROMs. Also note that because of this construct, it does not seem to be possible do drop in the libgles_cm hardware 3D driver.

Now it gets really interesting... One of the hackers working on the KS20 drivers has looked at the NLD ROM, and while the NLD ROM does not include the ahi2dati driver, it seems the ddi driver (ddi driver takes care of normal 'windows' drawing operations) on the NLD ROM includes code originally from the ahi2dati driver. Though it is still too soon to be sure, we suspect the NLD ROM uses hardware for BitBlt operations... and only for BitBlt operations.

If this is true, it would definitely open doors to bringing full hardware acceleration to the TyTN II, and possibly other MSM7x00 based devices. We have a TyTN II ROM that somehow touches the accelerated video hardware (NLD, probably WWE), we have fully accelerated drivers from HTC (Diamond), and we already have some prior experience due to the KS20 drivers. Throw them all together and it suddenly becomes a lot more likely the community will be able to bring full graphics drivers to the affected devices. Interesting times! Stay tuned, the effort has already begun!"......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xangma:
Liking it =)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=393931

Leo is about to post a link to the ported Diamond ROM...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] NuShrike:
Please! Do we need full quotes of quotes of a link anybody can go read to further clutter this thread?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xangma:
Jeeebus, calm yourself ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Win_XP:
Download link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/1164981...dio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.exe.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
but nobody knows when it is coming out? the official...?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
hoho... just join everybody "wait and see" mode

or just try to "break your kaiser if you smart" mode

or just... sell it --> provocative mode
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbxl:
going further? Not so sure !!!

"Looking further into the Diamond drivers and comparing them to the KS20 material (again, done by the same hacker as who ripped open the NLD ROM), seems so far to reveal that the Diamond driver is not nearly as good with 2D as the KS20 driver is. It could be possible that because of the Manilla interface - which is supposed to 'hide' most of Windows Mobile and seems to use mostly 3D api calls - these 2D calls were not important enough for HTC to optimise. This may make trying to port the Diamond drivers a bit less useful, as in, the effect on the normal Windows Mobile interface may not be as big as we would wish...."

Update May 22, 2008

http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] neva dinova:
is there any way to figure out how to over clock the kaiser
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rakdoll:
Isn't there always a way, but none of the present overclocking apps do any good for kaiser's Qualcomm-chip. Don't know any reasons why that is..

That probably means that somebody would need to work a lot to get it done, and it seems everyone is having hands full with this graphic chaos happening now.

Also to be remembered that overclocking is still cheating in a way, burning candle from the both ends. :rolleyes:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
As long as you see the light at the end of the tunnel, it suits me :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andret:
Overclocking the MSM7200 will not be possible until we can get a datasheet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] neva dinova:
but since the diamond has a similar qualcomm chip and is running fine at 524mhz cant we just extract the registry and run without any problems? please correct me if this is not true
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] will_raymo2000:
Overclocking the chip is nothing to do with the registry (if it runs anything like a PC) so no you couldnt extract the registry and use it..!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Melkor:
The Qualcomm Chipset in the Diamond is produced in 65nm. The Kaiser chipset in 90nm. So there is no garantee that you can reach 524Mhz - therefore there are other components which need a special cpu speed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] khals:
Dang..

So I take it no one is going to be eating their shoes? :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Digitaltigre:
APX 2500

Found a new video on the chipset my next device will be powered by...

http://www.cnettv.com/9742-1_53-50001904.html

I will be so happy to part ways with HTC for good. The b1tch needs divorcing!

PS... I just got my text message to go get my skyfire beta! Woot! Been waiting for many moons now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BLL1989:
billiant ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] userwag:
I completely agree.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] captainsensible2002:
That is the dogs bollox!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Nooky:
Hitting markets in 12 to 18 months?!

I say; my next handset won't be nVidia-powered. Early adopters as we are, we haven't go a 2-year contract, do we? :)

So my next handset will definately be a HTC ;-) Diamond looks good!

And who knows what HTC will have for us in a year? :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] spaanplaat:
How about another crippled phone??

Nvidia sounds good to me too......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
mmm whoever said diamond is next in the first line is indeed HTC marketing division...

indeed Nvidia sounds good. I've been using Nvidia many times, 5200, 5500, 6600 compared to Ati 9550

Both of them is good but only if the driver "is" in the box...

Go buy via motherboard and expect not having Via Hyperion inside, is stupid...

So don't compare it to intel motherboard with the driver in it!!!

Well........ that's me and many ppl in the XDA btw ... lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pmuschi:
Amen brother!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] spaanplaat:
At least the demo movies are better compared to the movies I saw of the kaiser.

Just saying that 'new' Nvidia platform looks promising.

I will not buy another HTC if the kaiser stays this way.

So perhaps the new Nvidia or else the gigabyte gsmart ms 808 will be a good alternative.

Anyway I'm not going to get f*ck*d again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] foxyn:
The update is already at HTC e-club site, but the link is not working properly!

HTC PTG 3.28.410 radio sign 25.83.40.02 - 1.65.16.25. ship.......looks like the portuguese update of the WWE update that came out a couple of days ago!!!!

Is this what everyone is waiting for??!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] emilceteras:
It is possible for somebody to upload the wwe english version of the ROM posted on HTC site? I can acces just the italian version in HTC e-club.Tx
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hypest:
not working for me either... :(

hypest
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] FloatingFatMan:
Odd's are that they're setting up the web pages with the links, but haven't actually put the files on their servers yet. Microsoft do that sort of thing all the time. Try again in a little while.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
i'm allready downloding it.

i upload it for you if nobody has allready do it :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rakdoll:
Yeah, just downloaded finnish version! means that now nordic and scandinavian people get to try it also with fully working keyboard! ÅÄÖ ect. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] emilceteras:
RS link Italian:

http://rapidshare.com/files/1170440...dio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] dubbeld00:
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2687

confirms that the update found in this thread are the official ROMS of HTC, they are according to this website now also available on the HTC website (couldn't find it though).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nloudahi:
Submite on another link

On HTC France i have accès only at the english version, can somebody put link to a french version, thank you
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] flame on o2:
An error has occured:

You have requested http://rapidshare.com/files/1170440....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip (69213 KB).

You have reached the download-limit for free-users. Want to download more?

Get your own Premium-account now! Instant download-access! (Or wait 62 minutes)

Can someone host this link? I got the error above and I dont want to buy....

THANKS!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Vaxon:
Uploading to rapidshare WWE. Will provide link when it will be ready.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] andysmb:
Official Russian ROM WM6.1 for Kaiser

Official Russian ROM WM6.1 for Kaiser

http://stream.ifolder.ru/6688847
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] digitalextremes:
If I am not mistaken....seems like the the screenshot of all the versions on the website was first posted here on xda-developers by a poster...so seems like they took the info from this form.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Vaxon:
WWE available here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/1170546...dio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shafez:
Great Man, Thanks

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] digitalextremes:
Is this directly from HTC? or from a different source? asking because a link to the same ROM was posted in a different forum as well a couple of days ago but it wasn't from HTC's download section.

Thanks for uploading :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
I'm currently uploading, 10 minutes left.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] nloudahi:
HTC Club

At this time i have access only at the english Kaiser's update, i don't know why but i am on french region and i can download the englih version at this time :confused: :confused: :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] moonray:
No download in my account

I have registered at HTC e-Club, and also registered my HTC branded TyTN II device there with its serial number (have done that about 6 months ago). However, the download still does not appear in my downloads area.

Anyone else with similar problems?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
this is for sure !!!:)

http://rapidshare.com/files/1170572....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dredd67:
Mirror for french version here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2226847&postcount=61
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] foxyn:
I've already d'lded from HTC site, but all versions are in a new thread in this forum.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] The-Kevster:
So the new promised official rom from HTC is here in the form of RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.16.25_Ship. After using it for a couple of days it's quite apparant that there is no improved graphics drivers and definatly no 3D support.

So being a realist I can't see any 3D support being added for the Kaiser. Either it is the truth that the Kaiser doesn't have a GPU or HTC are never going to open it.

Any other thoughts?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] edbutler:
Now When prepairing shoe how does one cook!

I here that if you soak a leather Shoe in a marinade for about 3 months until it is soft then lightly brown with a bit of virgin oil on medium heat that with the right wine can still taste like ****! So I hate to ask but may we see a Youtube video of the guy eating his shoe? We can send it to the CEO of HTC and tell him look this customer believed in your company so much that he swore to eat his shoe if you didn't release Video drivers for the Kaiser II.

Ed...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xwaiz:
the "upgrade" caused the touchscreen to response slowly or not responsive (feels better after changed pagepool to 16MB). and CorePlayer 1.2.4 doesn't have picture when play in qTV mode (got the picture after changed to DirectDraw). And in landscape mode, text in menu disappears if Clear Type is enabled.

1 word to conclude: disappointed. :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SecureGSM:
strange... I have picture in qtv mode. same version of coreplayer, me think.

radio 1.58.21.23 murata though. I don't think this is due to radio version, but I wil recheck tomorrow.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
play with preferences on video tab.

i had the same problem but after a change there worked.

sorry but i don't remember what i did because i change this ""update rom"" after :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] p.loong:
Don't Know Is this real overclocking or not!!!

I try this for few times and yup is work better then before so just post this to let gurus around here to check it i'am i right or wrong..

Things u need:

HTC Perfomance

any Registry Editor

HTC Perfomance download it and extract the files put it anyware at your device....

Run HTC Preformance Check the Enable dynamic CPU frequence changing

Set it at 520Mhz

Close HTC Performance off the device and softreset.

Run HTC Performance agian make sure it is Enabled and at 520Mhz

Now use Registry Editor go to

HKLM\Software\HTC\3GVTEngine--EnableOverClock change the value to 1

HKLM\Software\HTC\HTC_misc\--EnableOverClock change the value to 1

exit the registry editor

Trun off your device and Softreset again...

Run HTC Performance in my case it change to 624Mhz automatically

And Playing games like KRally,BustEM2 no more lagging it run smooth like my hermes do..(before this it's lag like hell:mad:)

just have a try and lets see is it realy help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Can you tell us where this file is from and how you obtained it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aonanodad:
Overclocking - COOL!... and a Question about 4G

Will be interesting to see what this does to benchmarks, and to battery life. It seems that battery life shouldn't be that much of a concern because buying an extra battery or two for my TYTN II is a lot cheaper than buying another cell phone.

If this overclocking works and someone is finally able to port the full video drivers to the Kaiser, that will breath new life - and another year of being state-of-the-art to the old phone.

My only question is, with AT&T talking about 20 mBaud 4G data in the next year, will the Kaiser be able to support these speeds as is, or is there different communications hardware in the 4G devices???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] p.loong:
I got it from Xda Developers but can't realy remember what's is for,after the new rom upgrade i just have a try on it from here i think.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=366792&highlight=overclocking
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] aonanodad:
:confused:

OK, so I tried this, and did not have the HKLM\Software\HTC\3GVTEngine--EnableOverClock value in my registry. I changed HKLM\Software\HTC\HTC_misc\--EnableOverClock to 1 and saw that HTC Performance now said that I was running at 624 mHz.

The problem is that I ran both SBP and gxmark benchmarks before and after this change, and this change did not seem to make any difference at all to the performance of my Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] littlerain:
I tried it, but no luck. Krally is still laggy. When i touch the screen, the game slow down and lag like hell
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] karneson:
htc performance

Everything I have read by the bigger brains than mine says htc performance does not work. Even if it does have some effect on other models, it does not work with the Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rakdoll:
Please see below! There is old info, as you can see, the public statement, oldie but goldie. BUT below that there is a suggestion by the person answering me personally, referring to the update we just got, and that is not good news.. .. :mad:

Public Reactive Statement From HTC

– Jan. 22, 2008

In response to recent customer complaints about poor video performance on HTC devices based on the latest Qualcomm MSM7xxx chipsets, HTC is providing the following statement.

HTC is committed to delivering a portfolio of devices that offer a wide variety of communication, connectivity and entertainment functionality. HTC does not offer dedicated or optimized multimedia devices and can confirm that its Qualcomm MSM7xxx-based devices do not use ATI’s Imageon video acceleration hardware.

HTC believes the overall value of its devices based on their combination of functionality and connectivity exceeds their ability to play or render high-resolution video. These devices do still provide a rich multimedia experience comparable to that of most smartphones and enable a variety of audio and video file formats.

HTC values its customers and the overall online community of mobile device enthusiasts and fans. HTC plans to include video acceleration hardware in future video-centric devices that will enable high-resolution video support.

Until another statement is released by HTC regarding this matter, I am afraid that we cannot comment any further on the matter of driver updates for the current range of devices. This is all we are able to tell you. With the release of WM6.1 for the device, and not enhanced Drivers contained within, this suggests that the TyTN 2 is not going to be updated in the manner you wish.

Best Regards,

HTC Europe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Magic_Knight:
...and HTC will have bad news when it will start losing its customers...

I'm one of their ex-customer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rakdoll:
Should we all send e-mail to HTC about that.. i mean, tell them that we are not going to be their customers anymore. :| That we feel bad how they handled the case and we cannot trust them anymore. Should I start a ne thread about this? we could collect all the persons there who informed to quit being HTC customer, just to see how many customers they will lose purely on this forum only!

Then we could calculate costs for htc! They would see that it wasnt smart to lose 100 000 euros just because they could not spend a little on drivers!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Magic_Knight:
I think they don't care of Class Actions end E-Mails of complain as long as magazines and mobile stores don't tell everybody how they fudge their customers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rakdoll:
hehe, ill do it anyway (official HTC break up thread).. just to see how many peeps have actually got enough of them already.. enough to split up ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mbxl:
For sure they don't care of class action ; So many threat, but only few real case ...

but here is a smart way to get our drivers:

- Complaining to phone shops sales force.

- Post on all site with review capabilities statement informing potential customers HTC products does not work well with multimedia.

I tried that this saturday at my local shop, and customers interested in HTC products just went for another brand. Sales rep tried Tytn II video and said he will inform potential customers.

If properly done, they will have to find a solution to avoid further impacting brand name.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] SouthernLuke:
But with Diamond out and Raphael on the horizon, less concern will be shown for Tytn ii. Look how MS is handling XP (which some have claimed to be the best Win OS yet).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rajmagi:
REVIEW

mmm provocative mode = on

how about every one if can, in every section of HTC product review section gives link to www.htcclassaction.org !!!!!!!

that surrreeeely will wake up everybody!!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rakdoll:
Please see below thread! It is done purely to tell HTC farewell and that we are boycotting them! :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=395110
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] McHale:
Wow... big ****ing surprise there.

What's funny is, I swore I'd never buy another iMate again. Between iMate and HTC, iMate wins now. I still hate iMate's support but HTC's is worse now.

Android, here I come!

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] slovoflud:
Oh, man! you bet!