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[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Dc_striker:
if they do it will suck but i hope they switch to sim cards
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
Even if T-Mobile's parent company buys Sprint, they will never change the existing technology. If the deal happens, I bet they don't even change the name. Just because the parent company of T-Mobile buys Sprint doesn't mean that Sprint goes away completely and all your handsets now say T-Mobile...it just means you'll be forking over your paychecks to a different money hungry conglomerate.

I.E., Sprint will never use SIM cards, nor will they switch over to GSM...that is until maybe 2010 when LTE gets rolled out, but that's a horse of a different color.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] thakidc:
I hope they dont switch to the sim cards those are jus easy ways for someone to steal your expensive pda
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] maccaberry:
coming from T-Mobile to verizon I love the extra data speed but I hate that VZW using CDMA (i.e. no SIM cards) because I travel around the world extensively and stupid CDMA means I have to have a different phone (and number) on a GSM phone so i can use it overseas.

CDMA might be great here in the US, but it sucks everywhere else in the world. GSM might be older technology, but I have never found a country yet that my old nokia gsm phone doesn't work immediately as soon as I step out of the plane.

Why cant people just get along and all start using the SAME technology all round the world.

(I am not originally from the USA, so don't get me started on PAL vs NTSC or ATSC vs DVB. I cant get any AV equipment from OS to work here in USA or vice versa - forgetting even about the voltage difference!!!)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
Ya, unfortunately CDMA really is the best option here in the US. Hopefully with Verizon going LTE for 4G we will see more convergence with global standards. And even if GSM is older than CDMA voice channel technology, HSDPA gives up nothing to it's CDMA counterparts (EVDO Rev A). How many 7.2 or 14.4 mbps EVDO networks are opperating in the states? Zero.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
See that's the thing though...sadly GSM networks in the U.S. suck the proverbial big one when it comes to voice quality. As I said in my previous post, I have my fingers crossed that when LTE is rolled out in a few years, it fixes a lot of the problems here in the good ol' US of A.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] maccaberry:
Is LTE the natural progression path for both CDMA and GSM? If that would be the case then things are looking up for equipment compatibility.

gc, Agree though that in US, CDMA really is king - for now.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Asphyx:
I don't buy what the articles says about Sprint users having to get GSM phones...

more than Half the value of sprint assets is in the infrastructure they have built, Not the actual subscribers who use that infrastructure.

What is more likely is that T-Mobile will add GSM support to the existing Sprint towers so that their coverage is better but keep the CDMA business since that is the one most prevelant in the US and the one most likely to generate additional revenues based on relay calls from other CDMA carriers.

At some point the phone industry has to start building dual format phones for those who need both GSM for overseas and CDMA for US use.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
Ah, I didn't know voice quality on GSM networks was any lower. I've only been on Sprint and Verizon myself.

To my knowledge, LTE is actually unrelated and incompatible with any existing CDMA or GSM technologies. It would be a new from the ground up system. LTE seems to be the path that the global standard will take though, and since GSM (and its related data protocols) is currently the global standard, the two are often associated.

There are a few (mostly Blackberries I think) but they are nothing that I particularly care for.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] pflatlyne:
I dont know where they came up with sprint switching to gsm,my guess is the article was written by a gsm fanboy. Eventually of course,they would want to transition everyone onto a single network.A model for this is the sprint-nextel merger. Sprint still runs an IDEN network along side their CDMA netowork. In that case there were reasons to keep IDEN around,since PTT did not really work well over their data network. (I understand that EVDO rev A has QOS features that make it work better)

If sprint ends up merging with T-Mobile,I expect that something similar might happen. T-Mobile does not have nearly as good of data coverage as Sprint does. (Although I have heard rumors of HSPDA coming to T-Mobile,but havent really looked into it that much) For the time being they would run both networks. Its possible that they might actually convert the whole network to CDMA instead of GSM due to the fact that sprints network seems to be more developed.

In that case,they would probably stop selling new GSM handsets. When a customer wanted to upgrade their handset,they would have to get a CDMA unit. Eventually,there would be very few GSM users left,all of which would have older handsets. They would then offer those last few new handsets and discontinue GSM service. Other carriers have done exactly this in the past. I imagine that roaming agreements with at&t would actually allow them to turn off their gsm towers before they had transitioned those last few customers to CDMA. At the end of the day,they of course get those last customers to sign new contracts,a win for Sprint-Mobile.( T-Sprint? S-Moprint?)

Similarly,if they decided to go to GSM,they would have to wait untill a HSPDA network was ready. The transition would go the same way.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
This is untrue. LTE (Long Term Evolution) is the code name given to the project that the 3GPP is currently working on for their 4G standard (Release 8), and is aimed towards improving the current UMTS standard. The outcome will be modifications or extensions to UMTS, not a brand new system. The architecture we will likely see will be E-UTRAN (built off of existing UTRAN) standing for Evolved UTRAN which is on the access side, and EPC (Evolved Packet Core) on the core side, which make up the EPS architecture (Evolved Packet System).

Verizon has already announced they will be using "LTE" as their standard instead of UMB which is the successor in the CDMA2000 family. AT&T will also be using it as their 4G standard, but will provide HSUPA and HSPA+ as bridge standards.

Now, as of right now, Sprint on the other hand has announced they will be using WiMAX as their 4G standard. IF the Sprint - T-Mobile merger happens, we will not be seeing Sprint customers walking around with GSM handsets, instead we will see both Sprint and T-Mobile customers walking around with either full WiMAX handsets, or if they choose to, dual CDMA + WiMAX handsets.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
That's interesting. I was under the impression that although LTE was an evolution of current standards, in practice there would not be backwards compatibility with existing networks. I could very well be wrong, so please provide some evidence to the contrary (no wikipedia please:)).

Also, I believe that Sprint is second guessing their position on WiMax. They may still go forward with that technology, but I think (based on conversations with people from Sprint) they are evaluating other options now as well.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
http://www.gsacom.com/news/gsa_240.php4

http://www.3gpp.org/Highlights/LTE/lte.htm

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/04/verizon-announces-700mhz-lte-plans-can-you-wait-3-years/

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/ATT-Plans-2008-3G-Expansion-91637
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
Thanks for the links.

While it appears that most networks will support both LTE and legacy technologies concurrently, the two are not interchangeable. A strictly LTE device wouldn't function on an HSDPA/HSUPA/UMTS/GSM network, and vice versa.

From the first link: "...co-existence with GSM/EDGE/UMTS systems..."

The two will not interfere with each other, and they can even be run from the same tower, but that is as far as it goes. They are still totally seperate technologies.

This is illustrated further in the second link you provided: "Co-existence in the same geographical area and co-location with GERAN/UTRAN on adjacent channels." The two cannot operate simultaneously on the same channel. Towers that support both LTE and existing technologies will be able to hand off the connection from one to the other though:

"E-UTRAN terminals supporting also UTRAN and/or GERAN operation should be able to support measurement of, and handover from and to, both 3GPP UTRAN and 3GPP GERAN."

"The interruption time during a handover of real-time services between E-UTRAN and UTRAN (or GERAN) should be less than 300 msec."

This supports my original statement. I may have been overly broad in saying that LTE is completely unrelated to existing technologies. There are undoubtebly some similarities, but the radio technology is radically different than anything currently used.

In practice, I would assume most devices will support both systems until 3G (and earlier) technologies are completely phased out. It would be a similar situation if Sprint decides to deploy a WiMAX network. The first WiMAX devices that appear would naturally support Sprint's existing networks as well as WiMAX. The device may operate on both WiMAX and EVDO, and may even be able to seemlessly hand off between the two, but that doesn't mean they are related.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
You seem to be forgetting the original question you were answering though. One of the posters had asked if LTE is the natural progression path for CDMA and GSM networks. You answered him by stating that it is completely unrelated and is a completely new system altogether. I corrected you by saying that it is untrue as LTE is the natural progression path for GSM/UMTS/HSDPA networks as it is wholly based off current UMTS networks. I then went on to say that Verizon opted to vary off their natural progression path towards UMB instead by choosing to adopt LTE.

Though the radio/network infrastructures will be different, current GSM/UMTS/HSDPA providers will continue to support GSM/UMTS/HSDPA alongside LTE as it is their natural progression path. I wasn't trying to say that a GSM handset would simply work fine when trying to use a PURE LTE network. Providers will not just wake up one day and pull down all existing architecture completely expecting everyone to go buy a new PURE LTE handset. Just like when digital networks first came out, analog stayed around for a WHILE before they pulled it down...and handsets had BOTH analog and digital capabilities.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
I agree that I may have oversimplified by calling them completely unrelated, but I think it is a bit of a misnomer to call LTE the natural progression path for one and not the other. Implementation of LTE will require a rollout of completely new network infrastructure. It is not merely an update to existing UMTS hardware. The two protocols have virtually nothing to do with each other, other than the fact that they were both introduced by the same regulatory body. It is the same thing with UMB. Just because CDMA and UMB were both developed by Qualcomm, doesn't imply a great deal of similarity or interoperability. UMB is only considered the natural progression of CDMA (as LTE is to UMTS) because they are both sanctioned by the same group. I don't think it is any more of a natural progression for an existing UMTS network to implement LTE than for Verizon, as both will have to roll out entirely new systems. The only difference would be that Verizon's network would be a mixture of CDMA and LTE, while the global standard would be a mixture of GSM/UMTS and LTE.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bedoig:
It looks like you are definetly right about Sprint going WiMAX. The Sprint/Clearwire deal that had previously fallen through is now back on. Several other companies like Intel, Google, and Time Warner are now investing in the deal as well. WiMAX it is.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] maccaberry:
Well.. there goes standardization down the toilet..

I think they do it deliberately so we can't port or devices from one carrier to another.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] gc14:
Yeah you'd think Sprint would smarten up too when they see every other top carrier in the U.S. choosing LTE as their 4G solution...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Tregrad:
Sprint?......smarten up?.....surely you just?

at sprint I dont think the right hand knows what the left hand is doing, but then again that is corporate America for ya.
[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the Meizu M3 Note's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.

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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Meizu M3 Note before depleting the battery.

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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Meizu M3 Note's battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.

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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Meizu M3 Note's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

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[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] god22222:
hi i have been using my atom for almost 2 years now, i have an option to change it over for aTOM EXEC How is the battery life compared to the old atom, is it better or worse? shud i stay with the oldie any comments
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] god22222:
??

None has any Ideas??
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] tjkhattak61:
Well, battery life almost same but Exec is much faster and responsive with couple of extra software+IR KB with it. Have used both and for me Atom Exec is better as its body is also good and dont get finger smudges. Presently am using it.
[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Meizu M3 Note's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] obelixtaiwan:
Hi Guys

I am a little confused. I just bought a touch love it but is now upgrading to the Cruise. My girlfriend has a very old phone and she can just that spesific handset with her sim card. Is there any way of unlocking the sim so that it will work in the touch.

The touch it self can use any sim becuase i used 3 different ones in it, it is just her sim that wont work in any of my phones. Any help will greatly appriciated

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] leondaphillips:
You need to SIM unlock

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=328221
[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the Meizu M3 Note's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?

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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Meizu M3 Note's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.

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[Meizu M3 Note Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Meizu M3 Note's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.

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[HTC U Ultra Questions & Answers] davi133:
hi guys,

where can I get an original OTA.zip for a European HTC__034 HTC U Ultra update of version 2.21.401.1 (Oreo)?

davi133 :cowboy: