yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Wow, that is really odd, for Dynamic I simply set the values back to their default.

I'm busy with work right now and might not get a chance for in depth testing for a few days but by this weekend I'll give my development kaiser a workout and see if I can duplicate your results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dust2Dust:
maybe n00b but...What does dynamic actually do??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
No fixed size, grows as much as needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
thanks for one more time for your work kyphur :)

if i change pagepool and flash again the new rom,can i use a backup for restore (from the same rom but with different pagepool) or it's worthless??:confused:

and i have to build again all my apps from beginning....:o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
In theory you should be fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
i'll try it and i'll give report :)

thanks for your support my friend ;)

Dimitris
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kwill:
Great tool, kyphur!! it really is big help. thanks a lot for your hard work and keep it up man!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Laurentius26:
V2 works awsom Kyphur, thank you. ;)

Also the date!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
do not try to change pagepool in rom that includes radio in!!!

i bricked my kaiser doing that :mad:

if that happends just put your phone in bootloader and flash official rom to bring back in life your phone;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xo...:
there is a error message pop up after i click Modify, i am trying to Modify the Dutty 29 April Rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I need the error message
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I successfully changed pp on the AT&T 1.62 & Dopod 3.10 FULL Roms (included Radio, SPL & Splash in addition to OS). Phone booted & I completed initial setup before reflashing.

What rom gave you this result?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
Hyper dragon IIs :o

maybe my mistake?? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Laurentius26:
Is it? I just did with no problem :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] zaharakis:
maybe it was bad flash ??i don't know...

i'm trying it again...

but first time i change it to 18mb and flash it...my phone stayed in boot screen...

i changed it back to dynamic (as it was) and reflash..nothing... the same resault..

i'm checking again in 16mb:confused:

edit: i could only flash puting phone in bl

final resault?

again the same issue....i think is something else...this rom has build 19400 and radio 1.65.14.06.

in first try i had changed also the date of rom..

but in 2nd try (in 16mb) i left it as it was..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ChInEsE ChIcKeN:
going to try it now with dutty;s apr 29 rom, will post results
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] msharaf:
Just flashed L26_V4_Vanilla with Dynamic PP and worked smoothly. It includes the Radio.

And Probably I have been mistaken when I hv flashed the XDA 3.0 with dynamic PP. It freezed at welcome windows screen. After Reflash with 32MB PP, I noticed the message "Clearing storage, please wait" before the welcome screen and prelimanry setup. I waited for 5 mins first time and may be it wasn't enough.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] deeznuts:
SO is this program to cange a rom to a true pagepool? I know the last pagepool changer 2.0 doesnt actually change the pagepool in roms but does something else that no one knows. Thanks..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Yes this one really works and as a bonus it also does a couple of extra things!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Laurentius26:
Hehe... yes nice one ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
So I used the tool on the newest PDAViet ROM which supposedly already has a 32mbPP. When I ran your tool it comes back saying it has a dynamic PP. So I switched it to 18mbPP and reflashed the ROM. After reflashing I only had approx. 75mb of memory avail in the phone. I was under the impression I should have around 95mb avail with an 18mbPP. Any thoughts are appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Kypher,

If you would be so kind, can you post the info, or a link to the info that details which set of registry entries you are using to search and replace for all the different PP options?

I'm sure this was posted in another thread, but linking it all together in one comprehensive thread would be useful.

thanks for all your work!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Here is what I found when playing with different PagePool Settings:

Note: This is with the New Rom Format (as seen in AT&T 3.51 Rom),
Classic Rom formats should have a bit more memory avaliable to users.

| 12MB pp | 16MB pp | 18MB pp | 24MB pp |
Physical_RAM_(in_MB)___________|___97.98_|___97.98_|___97.98_|___97.98_|
Kernel Prealloc. | 0.21 | 0.21 | 0.21 | 0.21 |
Paging_Pool__________________|___12.05 |___16.06_|___18.07_|___24.09_|
Kernel RAM Map | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 |
Watson Size | 0.13 | 0.13 | 0.13 | 0.13 |
Overhead | 0.02 | 0.02 | 0.02 | 0.02 |
Object Store | 0.25 | 0.25 | 0.25 | 0.25 |
Program_Memory_______________|___85.32_|___81.30_|___79.30_|___73.28_|
__AVAILABLE_PROGRAM_MEMORY___|___56.20_|___51.83_|___49.86_|___43.75_|
__USED_PROGRAM_MEMORY________|___29.13_|___29.47_|___29.45_|___29.53_|
Kernel Objects | 1.71 | 1.72 | 1.71 | 1.71 |
Misc | 0.39 | 0.40 | 0.40 | 0.40 |
Programs | 27.02 | 27.35 | 27.34 | 27.42 |
(S) Stack | 1.84 | 1.86 | 1.86 | 1.82 |
(H) Heap | 6.83 | 6.89 | 6.90 | 7.02 |
(E) EXE Data | 1.09 | 1.09 | 1.09 | 1.09 |
(D) DLL Data | 9.75 | 9.79 | 9.79 | 9.79 |
(W) Read/Write RAM | 7.50 | 7.72 | 7.69 | 7.69 |
Process | 5.48 | 5.48 | 5.48 | 5.48 |
Map/Shared | 2.02 | 2.25 | 2.21 | 2.21 |
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xo...:
i cant post the error message here, cuz i am using a Chinese windows. do u think that is the reason its not working.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Please post a screen shot, I have a Chinese co-worker who can look at it for me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirooga:
Hrm maybe that ROM is doing something different that is affecting how your tool changes its pagepool. Tried it on a few other ROMS and the numbers you posted come back pretty much the same.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
First guess, maybe they only changed the size bit and not the dynamic/static bit?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Yep, the problem is that the date picker is showing the date in Chinese.

To fix it I need to not look at the text property of the date picker but get the ate directly from the control.

My laptop is not the fritz and Dell doesn't seem to understand what "Next Business Day" means under the terms of my too expensive extended warranty contract. Maybe ther'll just be an "accident" and they can replace it under the accidental damage coverage I also have.

Anyway, I'll copy the project to my work PC and look into it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Download 1.4.2 and tell me if it fixes the date problem for non-english operating systems.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] tom_codon:
@kyphur : I think u can edit text in info tools and your thread.Because this tools works for Touch dual and Kaiser device also :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] daigoro64:
Just patched sakajati's Hyper Dragon IIm ROM from dynamic to 18MB pp with no problems at all.

BTW: theory confirmed. Full sprite backup, flash, full restore. All is properly working :-)

Thank you Kyphur!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xo...:
i still got the same error message
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monkey0:
Nope, that wont fix it, problem is that it writes the date back in the language of the windows used.

In my case it's Dutch: May 09 2008 -> mei 09 2008, Rom hangs in splashscreen.

Changed by hand: mei to May and rom works fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
In 1.4.2 I don't let windows spell the month, I look for the month number in the dtpicker and then build the date as a text string to write into the Rom.

I'll spend some time with it this evening.

I'm going to make the logs a little more verbose. When patching it will tell you specifically what it is writing....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Earthworm:
@daigoro64

I've just edited Dutty's April 29th ROM to 32MB PP. I am currently doing a full phone memory backup using Sprite then will reinstall it when I have reflashed with this 32MB version. Can you tell me, or anyone else for that matter, if there is any way I can confirm, after the flash and reinstall, that the device is indeed running on a 32MB page pool? Just for my own piece of mind :-) Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ninja.rogue:
I have a problem here.

When I flash PDAVIET 8.0 ROM without modifying its pagepool value, everything is ok and I can ultimate the installation.

When I use Kyphur pp tool and modify pp to 18mb, saving the nbh file, then the flashing process goes to 100%, ok but when the device restarts it hangs on the initial screen showing the three rows of numbers and never goes into boot. I have to reflash to previous other ROM but cannot modify its pp value.

Anybody has hints for me?

Anyway, thank you ...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monkey0:
Changed the romdate with a italian windows?

Use a hex editor http://www.handshake.de/user/chmaas/delphi/download/xvi32_231.zip

Start the HexEditor - open RUU_signed.nbh (the changed rom)

use the search function and find hex string 46 65 62 00 4A 61 6E 00

beside that you see a month date and year.

Is the month not one of these "Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec" then change it. (first letter should be capital)

Find the same string again down and change it.

Save the rom...

If that was the problem then the rom should boot ok.

That damn OS of mine changed the original date Apr 19 2008 to apr 19 2008.... corrected it and PDAViet 8 works.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ninja.rogue:
Thank you very very VERY much!

I found that the two strings were without capital letters and now I have modified them.

I am just waiting for my TytnII to charge and will flash again.

Will let you know but as for now wish you a happy weekend my friend! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Teijak:
Thank you very much monkey0,

with your help i finaly changed the pagepool of my german rom with my german vista os.

Teijak
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monkey0:
Glad i could help guy's

I'm sure that kyphur finds a solution to our problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Laurentius26:
Great work, thanks ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Dust2Dust:
best solution is for developers to allways work on WWE XP machines isn't it? ;-)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Sorry guys, I'll have a fix for you tonight...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
v1.4.3 Released....

Check the project folder in the first post.

This **should** fix the Date Issue in non-WWE OSes.

Note that the log window now shows the Date string that is written to the Rom file.

Please report how it works for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monkey0:
Good news.... it's working fine now.

Thanks Kyphur
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MickyMax:
It's not work with ATT 3.53 ROM ? :confused:

The ROM stay with 16mb pp...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I've tested it on the 3.53 Rom and it works just fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MickyMax:
I've tested id on a cooked 3.53 ROM this week-end and the PP stayed at 16mb pp... I will retry...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Tayton:
I was working on a few hybrid 6.1 polaris roms and I found the many if not all the roms didnt pass the test for the second set of memory values. Alot of these roms were a mix of 6.0 and 6.1 xif and os files. Cook swtos on his Polaris rom changed the first values in his rom only. He thought that was all you had to. He also felt it worked but he didnt post any memory values to compare. I didnt try two of his roms to see if the size actually was different.

This may be what is happening with that 3.53 rom. One thought I had is try changing the first value only in two same roms with two different page pool sizes and check the free memory. Maybe the second set isnt actually used for the page pool values. After all have you ever seen an os where you set numbers in two places for the same thing? Maybe the first pattern is the only valid one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MickyMax:
Hi,

PagePool Patcher doesn't work with WM 6.1 official ROMS. It say the page pool size is "Dynamic" but I have only 86mo RAM... :(

Can you correct the problem kyphur please ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Actually XPP (XDA PagePool Patcher) cut it's teeth on official WM 6.1 Kaiser Roms and had to be modified to adapt to the earlier Rom format.

The 6.1 Roms are all set to Dynamic with a defined PP Size of 12mb. 12mb + the 86mb = 98 isn mb of RAM which is where Newer (at&t 3.5x & HTC 3.2x) the WM 6.1 Roms start. It appears they reserve additional memory for Graphics Buffer.

I'm thinking of supporting changing the allocated size AND selecting between Dynamic & Static so you would be able to make a Rom with 24mb Dynamic PP.

I just don't know if it woul really be beneficial...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MickyMax:
Ok thanks :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Kypher, can you qualify how "dynamic" works?

Does dynamic mean it starts with 12 but can grow? And if so, how large can it grow?

As opposed to static, where if you set a static 12 it can't grow above that?

If for instance, the dynamic starts at 12, but can grow to 32, does that have any advantage or drawback (performance wise) then just setting a static 32? Obviously the static will ALWAYS use that RAM, but I am interested in performance metrics.

thx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Here is the best explaination I have found to date.

Basically I think it is saefr to run with a slightly larger Static PP than to give it a chance to bog down the device.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
ok thanks, and just to confirm you are saying yout tool DOES correctly change the newer roms from a dynamic to a static?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Yes, and if you select "Dynamic" it will return it to 12mb defined size with the flag set to Dynamic...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Ok thanks...maybe I'm missing something but I tried to use the tool on this ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=391708

It detected it as dynamic...I flashed and had just over 85MB total. Adjusting this to several different levels, including all the way to 32 still left me with the same ~85MB. Shouldn't the Total RAM decrease as the PP increases? If not, how else can I ensure it is actually changing it?

thx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Tayton:
Hmm, I rewrote an update on page pool ideas recently on xda. Cant seem to find it. In a nut shell the page pool changer, unless kyphur has a new mod, changes the value in two places. This was a progression on dutty's idea then mine. Recently I did a test that seemed to work (burnt the same rom with 16 and 24) by changing the values in the second set only. This make sense because why would a program check two places for the same setting. Lastly I found that some of the newer cooked roms do not pass the patter match for the second set. So some people may only be changing the first match which i dont think actually does anything.

Search for "pagepool tayton" I have a thread on it so you can test that rom with a hex editor and see if it matches the pattern twice.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
I think i read your other post Tayton...so are you agreeing with my observation that this version of the pp changer does not work?

Kypher states that it works with all these ROMs, but as stated in my tests no matter what I set it to, although it properly detects and changes it, remains the same amount of Total RAM (~85MB) when I flash it.

Kypher hasn't responded back so I'm not sure what his stance it, but it sounds like you are saying i may be correct?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
My patcher won't allow you to modify if it doesn't find both values.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
So Kypher, the ROM I mention above:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=391708

Is an "official" leaked ROM (not cooked). You may want to take a look at it to see why the tool is missing it... I don't know if it will provide insight to make the patcher more universal.

If I wanted to change the PP on a ROM like this w/out your tool, would you know the steps... that is..can it be done and do you know how to do it, even if the tool won't pick it up yet?

thx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] holzzelt:
i dont really get this. is this tool for my computer to modify roms that i downloaded?

or do i use it on my kaiser after i installed a rom? what ist netframe 2.0 thing?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] cushcalc:
Definitely must use on your chosen .nbh file, on your PC, before flashing to PPC.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] holzzelt:
ok thank you, i will give it a try!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] MickyMax:
Extract with winrar... you should see a nbh... :) patch it and flash !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] holzzelt:
yea i just found out by myself and edited the post....but thanks anyways!

Everything worked fine, thank you for your help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Tayton:
His program should work.

I checked your two roms from that link.

There were two .nbh files inside that .rar that said "Download me here"

The larger one which is the rom, has dynamic page pool memory set. I dont see why kyphurs program wouldnt change it.

You can jump to the hex address of 1520fA1 with a hex editor

You should see the values 03 E5. Thats the important second set.

Just change it to what ever you want for the page pool size. E5 set to E6 will change it to a fixed page pool. The 03 value will be the size you want.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Well should and do are two different things :)

All I can tell you is that when using the changer it detects the PP as dynamic and then allows me to change it. I change it and save it, then close down the changer, open it up again and analyze the file...it shows as being changed. So, one would expect that it is working... However, when I flash the ROM, regardless of what PP size I choose (I went from 12 to 32...with a couple in between) it still shows the TOTAL memory as the same (somewhere around 85MB). Based on what I have seen, the larger the page pool, the less available memory (as per here). ~85MB is indicative of the 12MB/dynamic size...so although the program thinks it has properly changed the PP it doesn't seem to be doing anything.

Now, I may have somehow messed this up doing too many things at once (like always), but I tried that ROM with 3-4 different sized and got the same result. When I have the time i will try one more time to confirm.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Tayton:
Yeah, try doing the change manually and see how it works for you. The "Program Total memory" should reduce proportionally

The only problem I have found is with certain mixed roms. I havent worked out yet how to find the second set of memory setting in those yet. The ones I have changed seem to work.

On a different topic, how do you like the blue ant headphone? I was pondering getting the Z9.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Not to get too far off topic :)... but I actually just sold mine on ebay. Like most other headsets I have tried I found it worked fine in low-medium noise environments, like driving in my car on the freeway with the radio on a moderate level. The big problem is using outside. Any type of wind (which there is always enough of here in Chicago) makes the headset virtually unusable. I am awaiting the Z9i due out soon along with reviews from the new Jawbone to make my next purchasing decision.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I'm going to take a look at this today. My developement Kaiser is back from being a "Service Loaner" so I can have at it.

I'll d/l the referenced rom from your link and give it a test.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
just courius, why this ppool changer show different result from om-by's ppool changer. which one is correct? sorry, just courious :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Different device, mine doesn't work on Hermes...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
I just freshly d/led the AT&T 3.53 Rom from your link and changed the pp to 16mb. Program Memory adjusted to 81.30mb.

I don't know what you're doing but I'd say that confirms the Patcher works on this Rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] monx®:
Boss, my device is kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
Then this is the only PagePool Changer you should be using. Previous "Universal" pp changers never really worked on the Kaiser Roms!

This one works on ALL Kaiser Roms!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pavetim:
Link for net framework

I can't seem to get the pagepool to work can somebody help me. I think it's because I don't have net framework but I am not exactly sure where to get it. I know what site but can somebody get me a link so I get the right one, and tell me how to download it onto my tilt. Thanks all.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rock4mayo:
klik search button;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
First, you run the PagePool Patcher on your PC.

Second, Windows Update should have automatically installed the Dot Net Framework onto your PC.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] bengalih:
Thanks for testing Kypher... like I stated I may have been working on too many things at once... and maybe kept flashing the same copy by accident??? When i have the time i am going to test it again and make sure I get the proper results. I will report back to confirm if it works then.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pavetim:
i did that

I got that I ran it on my PC and got framework on my PC already but i'm not trying to run this on my PC, I can't get it to run on my tilt, it keeps saying this is not a valid pocket pc application.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] kyphur:
"You run the PagePool Patcher on your PC"

This means that you DO NOT run it on your phone!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pavetim:
Ok thanks.

Ok i figured it out, thanks alot. I like the ROM I have so far from Leo just gonna try this to see if I can stop the freezing.